January 2012 Chit Chat Thread for TTC Boy

[Hobbermittens]

You think so? Well, we DTD CD11 in the pm, and then CD 13 in the am, so I guess we will see what happens with the temps. I usually don't O that early... and my cervix was open last night (haven't checked today). I had a glob of EW this morning, too.

I really HOPE I didn't O on CD12... I never have that early before, and if it was early that day, it could have been in a female moon sign! :( That's so lame, because one of the things I was excited about this cycle was that I should have O'ed smack dab in the center of a male moon sign.

Plus, I was drinking ASG and BSD for two days after that! You aren't supposed to do that after O!

[TTC5]

So am around a week after O now and no symptoms but going to throw this in anyway, I can't stop blowing my nose!!!!!!

[Cinss]

Hobber, yeah i thought cd12 sounds really early, and it is strange that FF isn't saying anything about O at this stage, never know maybe you are still going to O?

[Cinss]

TTC5 is not testing doing your head in, or are you fine just waiting to see if AF comes?

[Hobbermittens]

Hobber, yeah i thought cd12 sounds really early, and it is strange that FF isn't saying anything about O at this stage, never know maybe you are still going to O?

CD12 is early for me, but I do normally O between CD13-CD15. Once on CD16 when we were going ob vacation and it was delayed by stress.

I will add that while DTD this morning, I could feel DH hitting the cervix, but not yesterday morning, and it was the same position, same time of day, so I guess it is possible that I O'ed yesterday and the cervix had dropped down this morning.... CD12 is early for me, but I do normally O between CD13-CD15.

[Cinss]

Hobber - Well at least you have it narrowed down to a couple of days, i think all your bases are covered and you really have a great shot this time, oh how i wish i O'd on cd anythingteen, i have to wait for cd20-24.

[Hobbermittens]

Cinss, I wouldn't care at all except that I was really hoping to O in a boy sign, and it seems if I O'ed on CD12 then it was on the cusp, so that bums me out. CD13 would be great, so I hope that was the day. I guess I will wait and see what FF says, but sometimes I don't agree with them. That first high temp I was sure was because of being up a bunch, so I fully expected a lower temp today. I wouldn't have DTD this morning if I knew I already O'ed! I hope we didn't do an O+12 by accident, though I think that is impossible with swimmers waiting in the crypts. Right?

Sorry you have to wait so long for O day, but you know what, I think you get more time to prepare!

[Kris217]

OK, I have a zillion comments since been working like crazy this week!

HELLO AND WELCOME to Sam and BabyBlessings! You might get dubbed "BB" for short. Sam, sounds like you are ready to go! I haven't heard much about how long it takes the typical cycle to get back into gear after Mirena, but hopefully it is soon! BB, couple of comments above, but glad you ladies are here! Like the others said, do not feel bad for a second asking anything here. We are all here to cheer each other on and help you give your best shot to swaying for a boy. Definitely recommend reading through all of the sticky posts on the ttc boy forum for all the "base" info about swaying. There are a lot of methods and beliefs out there, but I will say that the methods on this site are really based on science and experience....not so much on old IG methods or wives tales. But we are here for ya!

3P1B, I am sorry you are having to deal with Charlie being a stinker already! I think you are right on though....try the inversion, and then if nothing, just have a c-section and think about the silver linings: no worrying about him during a high-risk delivery attempt, no labor and rushes to hospital, and you will look lovely in the photos. I remember my doc telling me that franks breeches don't often turn- not to bum you out- and honestly, as a mom who has had both a c-section and vaginal birth, it's not THAT big of a deal in regards to the experience. Recovery, yes, a bit harder. But if you need a section, don't worry about it. If he is big and frank breech, seems like your 1st decision as a good mama to him is to just do the section and get super pumped about your baby boy's birth.

Kris, buggar about the glucose test! I hope all is well....is Sarah ttc now or are you just waiting for your little lady and putting that on hold?

MFC, I totally agree with everyone- do not worry about the size. I know it is easy to worry when you've had m/c, but all looks well and your doc is not alarmed at all, so that is a good sign that there is no need to worry. And what a cute little wiggler you got there! I love that you saw him/her moving around so much! That is a GREAT sign!

TTC5- girl, don't be feeling bummed yet! When you know you have to potentially ttc for a while, you just have to let go of signs and feelings and being obsessed with it in general....trust me. It's hard to let go of, but you will be much happier when you just live your life and ttc on the side. But you are not out at all....your hormones are clearly working, so who knows, maybe that's a good sign? And I think it is an EXCELLENT idea to investigate suing for damages to cover IVF should you want to do that. With a good lawyer, a hospital will settle on that super quick versus having to deal with negative press and having to pay you millions, kwim? Of course, millions are bad, either, but you will have a shorter, quicker go of it all if you are just asking for the IVF to be covered. That is my 2 cents, at least! (I have a bunch of lawyer friends, obviously.)

Cinss, sorry about AF. Gear up for this month! FX for you!!!

Iluv, good to hear from you! I like the Delphine name as well. Super cute. They are all cute, actually! Carrigan is just adorable, sounds like a strong girl name. How are your others doing? DD2? xxoo

As for moi, we dtd again last night, so ended up 4 times in 3 days, O-1, O and O+1 just to be sure we caught an egg. I am going to test on my bday, which will be 12dpo (the 21st). I had a m/c on my bday last year, so I figure the universe should be cool to me and let me have a bday bfp. (: Best of luck to everyone!!!!

I had my second glucose test yesterday so we'll see tomorrow what it says! Sarah isn't TTC at the moment, we're just concentrating on this one baby for the time being. See how we go with her then we'll decide if we want 2 :)

[soni]

Hi Ladies,

Wanted to introduce myself - I have a 3 yo DD and we would dearly like a son next as it will be our last baby. I have been reading up on all the great info here on this site. DD was an oopsie and I had no idea I was pregnant till I missed my period. So, I am now educating myself on our cycle, ovulation, etc. We wanted to start TTC next month in Feb and I was using OPKs to try to figure out my O day. We did bd 24 hours after I got a +ve OPK because I got really excited and did not want to miss a month of TTC.
Now I am a little bummed that I did not give my body enough time to prepare for a boy sway. I am currently on DPO2 and this waiting game is driving me batty!
Thanks so much for listening! You are a great bunch of ladies here :)

[Cinss]

Hi Soni... Best of luck with your attempt, the odds are in your favour anyway having 1 girl already.

[soni]

Thanks Cinss! I hope that is true

[skrimpy]

3P1B - you may have tried all of this but I have some info on turning breeches on my site...

http://www.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/turning-breech-baby.html

This mom wanted advise on making a c-section with her LO more "natural" if the babe didn't turn:

http://www.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/natural-options-during-a-csection.html

Sorry so quick gals! Busy week!

Welcome to the new Swayers!

[TTC5]

TTC5 is not testing doing your head in, or are you fine just waiting to see if AF comes?

I'm itching too but now we know we are in for a long run I just can't waste my $$ now. I won't test until AF is late now.

[TTC5]

Hi Ladies,

Wanted to introduce myself - I have a 3 yo DD and we would dearly like a son next as it will be our last baby. I have been reading up on all the great info here on this site. DD was an oopsie and I had no idea I was pregnant till I missed my period. So, I am now educating myself on our cycle, ovulation, etc. We wanted to start TTC next month in Feb and I was using OPKs to try to figure out my O day. We did bd 24 hours after I got a +ve OPK because I got really excited and did not want to miss a month of TTC.
Now I am a little bummed that I did not give my body enough time to prepare for a boy sway. I am currently on DPO2 and this waiting game is driving me batty!
Thanks so much for listening! You are a great bunch of ladies here :)

Welcome!! :)

[soni]

Welcome!! :)

Thanks TTC!

[Princess of Pink]

Ok I have had 2 psychic readings now..one from a lady from eBay that back in 2006 had a good reputation and one from Cara. I was a little bit disappointed at first as both said I will have a girl, but you know what...after 5 girls I am ok with it. I honestly wouldn't expect anything else.

The eBay lady I wasn't overly impressed with to be honest. The portion of her reading regarding my next baby...

Yes to children, boy, girl, boy and definitely MORE than now.
The next child I feel “will be a girl” and she is “coming soon” in fact I get a feeling strangely (as you appear to be wanting this next baby quite desperately) that it will be a shock or a surprise, which doesn’t fit in with the planning that I get, but it would almost be feeling like a situation for example of you “going to the clinic to check out why you feel heavy and bloated and finding out you are 8 weeks pregnant” as I get the “shock, and feeling of I cant be” but that it is true and “everything is well” as the moment you had got over the shock, you would then be “having a go at yourself for not knowing, not being careful etc and you would have to have about 6 scans to prove you hadn’t done anything wrong!” You would never do anything wrong, even if in the past you feel that your body let you down, it wasn’t doing anything wrong, it was just reacting to the circumstances “not being right at that time!” So carry on wanting your next baby, but still be prepared for it to be a shock. In terms of timescale it feels like “you will know by the end of the summer” and I get a feeling of “August” (although I cannot think for a moment that when you have had a reading, that you could still be shocked and surprised, but that is what I get!)

Now this one was way off on my other life stuff...she seemed to get the impression that I suffered from infertility and had been trying for ages (couldn't be further from the truth). I was totally confused when the first line said Boy, Girl, Boy....but I will have a girl next?? WFT??

Cara's reading was amazing...6 pages long and so spot on about my personality, problems I am facing right now, things I struggle with, areas I need to improve on, my career, relationships, etc... There is no way you could get everything she wrote without it really being about me. This is the portion that was about future children:

The fourth card, completing the circle around the ‘self’ looks forward a few months to the future and was the knight of chalices. Now I felt firstly I was being shown a child here, in your near future but I will look more at the timing within the fertility spread. I was being shown a little girl here, a very pretty little girl with fair colouring and she will be a little dreamer! Lol always dancing and she will have a fantastic imagination!
Aside from this the knight of chalices, like most if not all of this suit, is an optimistic, good card to see in a reading. Like all Knights, this one often comes bearing messages for you, good new and when I asked what this was in relation to I was shown a child and general happiness- I really feel that 2012 will be a good year for you.

And further on is the fertility spread:

For this part of your reading I will be using my oldest and most traditional cards- my raider waite tarot deck, a lot of readers don’t use these cards as they are so plain and a bit boring looking! The pictures within the cards don’t really give much away- they are straight to the point and this is why I like them for this kind of reading- they are simple to read and so messages don’t get confused. I have had them for years though and they are my old trusted friend’s lol although they went missing last week, but I was ill and in and out of hospital so I think I was being told to rest! I always use these cards for a timing reading, I find them very accurate and as I have been trying to conceive myself for over 3 years I know how important these kinds of answers are to those who ask.
I will also be using my pendulum during this part of your reading.

The first thing I did was to use my pendulum and ask if there are any children in your future- I was shown a strong ‘yes’ which is always a good place to begin! I used my rose quartz pendulum here as rose quartz is a crystal so connected to love and family as I mentioned above.

This obviously doesn’t tell us a lot though! So I asked my cards for some information surrounding this. I was shown a little girl in your future again, a very girly pretty girl and I was told she will look very much like you ☺
I drew a card to represent her and the queen of swords came up, again very feminine backing up the fact you will have a daughter but it also shows me that she will be strong and determined, and very popular, a little social butterfly!

I looked at timing and I was shown 3 months from now as being important, the number 3 is coming across very strongly so the spring months? I felt April to be especially important for you.
I was being given the 12th as an important date around her to keep in mind.

I do feel there is another child in your future, another little girl very alike the daughter I just described- like 2 peas in a pod actually! Lol


The things both have in common are that my next baby will be a girl....that it would be soon....and while one mentioned in 3 months....the other did say the end of summer (August here is not summer, it's winter)...so April would infact be at the end of summer!!

Better just accept having girl #6 then I guess hey!!!

[TTC5]

I had a reading last year too and am meant to be getting a BFP this month.. we will see lol

[Princess of Pink]

Did they tell you what gender you would be having? I am no psychic...but I have a strong feeling about this month for you and I feel blue...I have no idea why...but I do!! I don't get feelings about people normally, but I did a few months ago about a girl on here and was right...she wasn't even ttc, lol. Who knows?

[TTC5]

Did they tell you what gender you would be having? I am no psychic...but I have a strong feeling about this month for you and I feel blue...I have no idea why...but I do!! I don't get feelings about people normally, but I did a few months ago about a girl on here and was right...she wasn't even ttc, lol. Who knows?

Oh wow really? Well this one said a boy!

[TTC5]

Ok ladies so tell me what you think? I have not been to the toilet for a poo in over 12 days now... I am not constipated/no pain.. just have not had an urge. I have sat and pushed just to see and nope it is like I am empty. So a lady who is a nurse who I babysit for inboxed me (as I have it on my status lol) and asked if I could be pregnant... AF is due next week... I said I wouldn't SS but now I can't help it..

[love being a mummy]

Wow 12 days is a long time, are you eating enough?

[Yahmama]

So, I'm thinking today is O day for me...third day in a row of a dip in temp (I usually have either a 2 day or 3 day dip and O on the last day of the dip) and since I haven't had a +opk yet, I'm hoping I will get one sometime today. The opk this morning was actually strange...the control line wasn't as dark as it usually is, so the lines were closer in darkness to each other, though the test line was about the same darkness it was yesterday...but since the control line was fainter it looked closer in shade....does that make sense? Anyway, my MIL always takes my 3 kiddos on Thursday afternoons for a few hours, so DH and I are planning to DTD while they are gone--perfect timing I hope!
How is everyone doing today?
TTC-12 days is a very long time! Progesterone is supposed to slow down digestion, so maybe this is a good sign!

[Son4meplz]

So, I'm thinking today is O day for me...third day in a row of a dip in temp (I usually have either a 2 day or 3 day dip and O on the last day of the dip) and since I haven't had a +opk yet, I'm hoping I will get one sometime today. The opk this morning was actually strange...the control line wasn't as dark as it usually is, so the lines were closer in darkness to each other, though the test line was about the same darkness it was yesterday...but since the control line was fainter it looked closer in shade....does that make sense? Anyway, my MIL always takes my 3 kiddos on Thursday afternoons for a few hours, so DH and I are planning to DTD while they are gone--perfect timing I hope!
How is everyone doing today?
TTC-12 days is a very long time! Progesterone is supposed to slow down digestion, so maybe this is a good sign!

Good luck yahmama for today....may you get a BFP soon. Do you use smiley face opk?

[Son4meplz]

Wow...12days...I have never heard of this...assuming you are doing fine...
...may be its one of the pregnancy symptoms...good luck.

[3Pink1Blue]

36 wks! I'll catch-up/update after my appt this morning. http://img.tapatalk.com/430228c2-f27e-17e0.jpg

[Yahmama]

Good luck yahmama for today....may you get a BFP soon. Do you use smiley face opk?

No, just opk strips I got off the internet...40opk plus 10hpt for 9.99...they seem to do the job pretty good! Glad it comes with so many b/c I'm taking like 4 a day now!

[Hobbermittens]

TTC5, 12 days is a LOOONG time!! Try some fiber? I hope it is a sign that you are pg!

Yahmama, I hope today is your day! Good luck!

[Hobbermittens]

POP, if the reading is right and you are meant for another girl, then you definitely sound at peace with that! I had a reading from Cara too, and I really liked it. SHe is so nice and explains everything! She told me I would have a little boy who would be born a little early, and would be a night owl. I hope she is right--about the boy part at least!

[Hobbermittens]

3P1B, I love your belly!! :) Hope your appointment goes well!

[Hobbermittens]

So, I got another high temp this morning, and FF says I O'ed on CD12 like you ladies thought. I still can't believe it, though! I feel like I should discard the temp for CD13, because I honestly was awake for quite a while before I took it (I woke up at 4 and wasn't planning on getting up until 4:30, and I didn't want to take my temp too early (I usually take around 530 or 6) so I waited to take it until 4:30 I think. I don't know how much difference that makes.

Anyway, the whole thing annoys me because I NEVER O that early, so I feel like I was robbed of doing a propper sway--we atempted on the odd days, so CD9, CD11 & CD13, so I had two attempts in there before I O'd if I actually DID O on CD12... But that means no attempt on the actual O day! :( Plus, the opk didn't go positive on that day until the afternoon--is it really possible to O before the opk goes positive, or so quickly afterward? I usually O about 24-36 hrs AFTER a +opk!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber- it is an interesting name choice, we all pretty much hate it. Even my girls think it's dumb lol Thanks Hun, I love the belly too but man is it getting huge lol

Flava - good to hear from you, glad you're feeling ok about not ttc anymore. Sometimes it's just easier to move on.

5 - lots of snot huh lol could be fx 12 days?! Wowsa!

Soni- welcome! Keep working your diet and safe sups that way if you are preg no harm and if you're not you're better prepared for the next attempt.

Skrimpy - thanks for the info!

Holy crap ladies, so excited today! HE TURNED!! Based on the location of the heartbeat and a good belly groping my midwife was sure he was still head up (as was I) but didn't want to schedule the version till we were sure so off to the in office u/s room. She went to where we both thought the head was and low and behold no head, went to the bottom and there it was! She was so surprised she checked three times. Found the head followed the spine, legs and back down lol I can't even tell you how relieved we are!

[Yahmama]

3P1B- Yeah!!!! So glad he turned!!!!

Hobber- usually when I have to be up and down during the night I see maybe a .2-.3 difference between when I check it later in the morning after I've gotten more sleep...in fact, last night I had been up since 3:30 and it was still the same temp as the day before (97.5) and my typical non-dip temp is up around 97.9-98. But that's just my body, maybe yours is affected more by being up. If it were me, though, I would assume I had Od on cd12.

I have been plugging my numbers into FF from what I've entered on my pink pad app so I could share on here. Hoping to see a temp rise tomorrow since we're going to BD tonight. This would be an early O for me too since I usu O on cd16 and this is cd14. You can also tell how my temps were still high at the beginning due to the chemical preg....they took a few days to get back to normal.
3967ba Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3967ba)

[DoulaMama]

Hobber- it is an interesting name choice, we all pretty much hate it. Even my girls think it's dumb lol Thanks Hun, I love the belly too but man is it getting huge lol

Flava - good to hear from you, glad you're feeling ok about not ttc anymore. Sometimes it's just easier to move on.

5 - lots of snot huh lol could be fx 12 days?! Wowsa!

Soni- welcome! Keep working your diet and safe sups that way if you are preg no harm and if you're not you're better prepared for the next attempt.

Skrimpy - thanks for the info!

Holy crap ladies, so excited today! HE TURNED!! Based on the location of the heartbeat and a good belly groping my midwife was sure he was still head up (as was I) but didn't want to schedule the version till we were sure so off to the in office u/s room. She went to where we both thought the head was and low and behold no head, went to the bottom and there it was! She was so surprised she checked three times. Found the head followed the spine, legs and back down lol I can't even tell you how relieved we are!

WOOOHOOO!!!!!! Couldn't be happier for you, Mama!!! He listened!!!! Yippee!!!!! xxoo

[LolaInLove]

Lola- I just learned that strawberry stimulates testosterone and sperm activity. So if a man eat a lot he will have more T and better sperms. Tell DH to start eating a lot of it it can only help. Hope he loves it and not allergic lol.

Im on weight loss and it's sucks Im hungry and lazy to workout lol. so it's going slow.

Aw nice, thanks for posting that, Flava! Your body will get used to less food intake and your "stomach will shrink" if you know what I mean. Keep at it, I know you will get back to old Flava body soon. Have you gotten a dvd to do at home or anything? I've seen a couple on tv that look fun....some Brazilian Booty thing and then some Insanity one. They are both like $80 systems. Kinda gimmicky and I bet you could do it on your own, but they look fun and don't take long to do the workouts.

[LolaInLove]

If you need the antihistimine, then you should take it, bt if you can live without it (like if it is mostly just for your comfort) you could always skip it. Antibiotics sway blue, so that isn't a problem!

Dang it, I'm always a day behind, but gonna say ITA with this.....you could also just skip this month, which is not anyone's favorite, but think of it as more time to get ready.

[LolaInLove]

You think so? Well, we DTD CD11 in the pm, and then CD 13 in the am, so I guess we will see what happens with the temps. I usually don't O that early... and my cervix was open last night (haven't checked today). I had a glob of EW this morning, too.

I really HOPE I didn't O on CD12... I never have that early before, and if it was early that day, it could have been in a female moon sign! :( That's so lame, because one of the things I was excited about this cycle was that I should have O'ed smack dab in the center of a male moon sign.

Plus, I was drinking ASG and BSD for two days after that! You aren't supposed to do that after O!

Hobbs, FF is of course going by your temps there, and if you were not sleeping well, they can be high because of that. I would venture to guess that you ovulated sometime on Tuesday (CD13) actually, but with your cervix being open last night.....not sure. I don't think it was CD12. But I think you did a good job with the bd timing. Don't worry about the drinks after O, no big deal I say.

[LolaInLove]

I had my second glucose test yesterday so we'll see tomorrow what it says! Sarah isn't TTC at the moment, we're just concentrating on this one baby for the time being. See how we go with her then we'll decide if we want 2 :)

Right on! I would do the same thing. I hope your results come out better this time!!! FX

[LolaInLove]

Hi Ladies,

Wanted to introduce myself - I have a 3 yo DD and we would dearly like a son next as it will be our last baby. I have been reading up on all the great info here on this site. DD was an oopsie and I had no idea I was pregnant till I missed my period. So, I am now educating myself on our cycle, ovulation, etc. We wanted to start TTC next month in Feb and I was using OPKs to try to figure out my O day. We did bd 24 hours after I got a +ve OPK because I got really excited and did not want to miss a month of TTC.
Now I am a little bummed that I did not give my body enough time to prepare for a boy sway. I am currently on DPO2 and this waiting game is driving me batty!
Thanks so much for listening! You are a great bunch of ladies here :)

Hey Soni! Welcome over. There have been a lot of good oopsies on this site lately, if it makes you feel better! (Mostly with the girl swayers.) I'm 3dpo so we can go batty together. :pray:

[LolaInLove]

3P1B - you may have tried all of this but I have some info on turning breeches on my site...

Turning Your Breech Baby> (http://www.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/turning-breech-baby.html)

This mom wanted advise on making a c-section with her LO more "natural" if the babe didn't turn:

"Natural" options during a c-section (http://www.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/natural-options-during-a-csection.html)

Sorry so quick gals! Busy week!

Welcome to the new Swayers!

Skrimpy, re:natural c-section tactics, when I had my DD1, I attempted natural labor and did so...it was awful back labor, she was OP....for about 33 hours before they made the c-section call. When they pulled her from me, she had a killer cone head and according to a nurse did better than normal c-section babies because of the labor right after birth. She said the same thing you did about that helping them out. Just thought I'd throw my experience in there!

[Hobbermittens]

Hobbs, FF is of course going by your temps there, and if you were not sleeping well, they can be high because of that. I would venture to guess that you ovulated sometime on Tuesday (CD13) actually, but with your cervix being open last night.....not sure. I don't think it was CD12. But I think you did a good job with the bd timing. Don't worry about the drinks after O, no big deal I say.

No, it was open still the night of CD13. But it is definitely closed today (CD15).Who knows? Yahmama, it was more than just beong up a bunch. It was that I was actually awake and laying there about 1/2 hour before I took my temp. I am not sure what that means. I also slept like crap ( you know that kind of fitful sleep where you wake up every few minutes). I had another similar night earlier in the cycle and it was my highest temp all cycle. Who know, I guess there is no telling, I just wanted this cycle to be perfect and then my stupid body had to throw a wrench in it!

[Hobbermittens]

3P1B, I am so happy for you that Charlie turned!!! I bet you are breathing a huge sigh of relief!! Is there anything you need to do to keep him head down?

[TTC5]

Wow 12 days is a long time, are you eating enough?

Yes most def am! I am eating nicely JIC we do conceive!

[TTC5]

Wow...12days...I have never heard of this...assuming you are doing fine...
...may be its one of the pregnancy symptoms...good luck.

I feel fine? No pain, no constipation.. it's like I just have nothing in the bowel?

[TTC5]

TTC5, 12 days is a LOOONG time!! Try some fiber? I hope it is a sign that you are pg!

Yahmama, I hope today is your day! Good luck!

I eat plenty of fibre though and last two days and this morning took coloxal but still no urge to go..

[TTC5]

Hobber- it is an interesting name choice, we all pretty much hate it. Even my girls think it's dumb lol Thanks Hun, I love the belly too but man is it getting huge lol

Flava - good to hear from you, glad you're feeling ok about not ttc anymore. Sometimes it's just easier to move on.

5 - lots of snot huh lol could be fx 12 days?! Wowsa!

Soni- welcome! Keep working your diet and safe sups that way if you are preg no harm and if you're not you're better prepared for the next attempt.

Skrimpy - thanks for the info!

Holy crap ladies, so excited today! HE TURNED!! Based on the location of the heartbeat and a good belly groping my midwife was sure he was still head up (as was I) but didn't want to schedule the version till we were sure so off to the in office u/s room. She went to where we both thought the head was and low and behold no head, went to the bottom and there it was! She was so surprised she checked three times. Found the head followed the spine, legs and back down lol I can't even tell you how relieved we are!

So glad he turned, take a look at the spinning babies website to keep him down!

[TTC5]

ASF: Just waiting for the drs to open up and will ring to make an app.... 13 days and no go!

[Princess of Pink]

5 there is a girl at my work that only goes every 2-3 weeks and always has. But I have a feeling it's a pregnancy sign!! ;)

[Princess of Pink]

3P1B that is excellent that he turned. My DD#5 turned the night before my scheduled CS and we were so surprised when they brought in the portable u/s to check before I was wheeled into theatre. That was called off and I went into labour naturally the next day! So much less stress knowing baby is the right way up.

Hobbermittens - I really hope Cara was right about you having a little boy too!! Doesn't it make you feel good knowing someone "feels" you will have your desired gender!

[LolaInLove]

Ok ladies so tell me what you think? I have not been to the toilet for a poo in over 12 days now... I am not constipated/no pain.. just have not had an urge. I have sat and pushed just to see and nope it is like I am empty. So a lady who is a nurse who I babysit for inboxed me (as I have it on my status lol) and asked if I could be pregnant... AF is due next week... I said I wouldn't SS but now I can't help it..

Holy shizz, 12 days? Are you eating much? What constipates me in pregnancy is the iron in prenatals....I've never had it in the 2ww though.....are you feeling ok?

[LolaInLove]

No, just opk strips I got off the internet...40opk plus 10hpt for 9.99...they seem to do the job pretty good! Glad it comes with so many b/c I'm taking like 4 a day now!

I say go for dtd today, but keep taking the opks twice a day. Mine get equal in color the day before they get super dark on the pee line, like way darker than the control line. That, I know, is my true positive, and I usually ovulate within 18-24 hours, I believe.

[LolaInLove]

So, I got another high temp this morning, and FF says I O'ed on CD12 like you ladies thought. I still can't believe it, though! I feel like I should discard the temp for CD13, because I honestly was awake for quite a while before I took it (I woke up at 4 and wasn't planning on getting up until 4:30, and I didn't want to take my temp too early (I usually take around 530 or 6) so I waited to take it until 4:30 I think. I don't know how much difference that makes.

Anyway, the whole thing annoys me because I NEVER O that early, so I feel like I was robbed of doing a propper sway--we atempted on the odd days, so CD9, CD11 & CD13, so I had two attempts in there before I O'd if I actually DID O on CD12... But that means no attempt on the actual O day! :( Plus, the opk didn't go positive on that day until the afternoon--is it really possible to O before the opk goes positive, or so quickly afterward? I usually O about 24-36 hrs AFTER a +opk!!

Hobbs, I don't think you can O before a + opk....I'm pretty sure your LH must surge in order to push ovulation to occur. I really think you did on CD13, maybe even later. But, tell you what, don't worry about the timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you are really doing a hard-core sway, but you know that the timing has not at all been proven to be of importance. Don't stress about it!

[LolaInLove]

Hobber- it is an interesting name choice, we all pretty much hate it. Even my girls think it's dumb lol Thanks Hun, I love the belly too but man is it getting huge lol

Flava - good to hear from you, glad you're feeling ok about not ttc anymore. Sometimes it's just easier to move on.

5 - lots of snot huh lol could be fx 12 days?! Wowsa!

Soni- welcome! Keep working your diet and safe sups that way if you are preg no harm and if you're not you're better prepared for the next attempt.

Skrimpy - thanks for the info!

Holy crap ladies, so excited today! HE TURNED!! Based on the location of the heartbeat and a good belly groping my midwife was sure he was still head up (as was I) but didn't want to schedule the version till we were sure so off to the in office u/s room. She went to where we both thought the head was and low and behold no head, went to the bottom and there it was! She was so surprised she checked three times. Found the head followed the spine, legs and back down lol I can't even tell you how relieved we are!

YAY!!! I don't know if you were using Spinning Babies tactics, but they totally work! Every mom I've suggested it to has had theirs turn! (My doula recommended that to me to keep my 2nd from going wackadoodle just in case.) GO CHARLIE!!!

And yea- Silver? WTF? They are some weird birds. And CRAP- I forgot to ask Sarah about the TX thing.....going to FB her right now. Sorry, the holidays got in my face there and distracted me. Just thinking about how nice to be away from that clan.

[Princess of Pink]

I am happy to have another girl, and I know a reading (or two) is just a reading. But now they have left me wondering if all the effort of planning and diet changing etc is worth it if I am just going to have another girl you know! Not feeling down about the girl part....but down about the fact that no matter what I do apparently always ends with the exact same result!! And Cara even predicted ANOTHER girl down the track after this next one...WTF?? I have NO plans for another baby at all. Am I just some weird girl producing freak lol

[Hobbermittens]

Hobbs, I don't think you can O before a + opk....I'm pretty sure your LH must surge in order to push ovulation to occur. I really think you did on CD13, maybe even later. But, tell you what, don't worry about the timing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you are really doing a hard-core sway, but you know that the timing has not at all been proven to be of importance. Don't stress about it!

Thanks for the reassurance... I know timing isn't as big a factor (which is why I went ahead and DTD 4 times this cycle) BUT I am pissed about possibly Oing on the cusp of a girl/boy moon sign. I know not a lot of people put stock in that, and I guess I wouldn't care so much, but I had been so excited that the moon sign changed CD12 in the pm and stayed in a boy sign until today, so I thought for sure we were in the clear! It was the first cycle that I had gotten to attempt during a boy moon sign, so I guess it is an extra let down that it possibly didn't happen. :(

[TTC5]

5 there is a girl at my work that only goes every 2-3 weeks and always has. But I have a feeling it's a pregnancy sign!! ;)

How soon can a pregnancy show with a blood test?

[TTC5]

Holy shizz, 12 days? Are you eating much? What constipates me in pregnancy is the iron in prenatals....I've never had it in the 2ww though.....are you feeling ok?

Yep eating plenty not taking pre natal, only folic acid. I feel fine. A little crampy in the uterus but that is prolly cos AF is on it's way?

[TTC5]

So I got an app at 3.15 this afternoon... should I ask for a blood test or is it too early? Don't even know why I am letting myself get hopeful!

[Hobbermittens]

I am happy to have another girl, and I know a reading (or two) is just a reading. But now they have left me wondering if all the effort of planning and diet changing etc is worth it if I am just going to have another girl you know! Not feeling down about the girl part....but down about the fact that no matter what I do apparently always ends with the exact same result!! And Cara even predicted ANOTHER girl down the track after this next one...WTF?? I have NO plans for another baby at all. Am I just some weird girl producing freak lol
I totally get that. I had a few tell me girl, too, and i thought the same thing...why bother doing anything if I am just getting another girl? It ends up making you feel like the whole chicken and the egg thing, right? Like would you get another girl if you swayed, or is it that you won't bother swaying because you are predicted a girl, so then you get a girl? (Does that make sense?)

Three of my girl predictions are already passed because I didn't get pregnant when they said, so I am hoping that means I am in the clear!

[LolaInLove]

I am happy to have another girl, and I know a reading (or two) is just a reading. But now they have left me wondering if all the effort of planning and diet changing etc is worth it if I am just going to have another girl you know! Not feeling down about the girl part....but down about the fact that no matter what I do apparently always ends with the exact same result!! And Cara even predicted ANOTHER girl down the track after this next one...WTF?? I have NO plans for another baby at all. Am I just some weird girl producing freak lol

POP, haven't the psychics been wrong a good bit? I have to say, I would not base my decision to not have any more kids or stop swaying or whatever on what they say. Heck, one said I'd have 2 boys after my 2 girls. Like that is going to happen. You know what I mean......don't get discouraged by all of this, and PLEASE don't feel like you are a girl-making freak. It may be that you and your DH are programmed to make girls, but MAYBE with swaying for a bit your tides will turn blue! Don't give up!

[LolaInLove]

Yep eating plenty not taking pre natal, only folic acid. I feel fine. A little crampy in the uterus but that is prolly cos AF is on it's way?

Aren't you only like 7dpo or so? I guess just ask about the beta. I would say probably too early unless you are like 12dpo or so? Keep us updated!

[Hobbermittens]

So I got an app at 3.15 this afternoon... should I ask for a blood test or is it too early? Don't even know why I am letting myself get hopeful!

Sure, why not??? Or is it too early?

[Hobbermittens]

POP, haven't the psychics been wrong a good bit? I have to say, I would not base my decision to not have any more kids or stop swaying or whatever on what they say. Heck, one said I'd have 2 boys after my 2 girls. Like that is going to happen. !
You might have twins. You never know! :)

[TTC5]

Sure, why not??? Or is it too early?

No idea, I have never had a blood test before lol.. AF is due around 4 days *I think* could be due sooner or a few days after that.. I didn't use opks but did cave and used the last of my CBFM sticks and got a high reading on both those days around CD 16/17 BUT hard to say wether a peak occured BEFORE those or AFTER IYKWIM? I had strong O pain 2ish days before I did those tests so could be possible I o'd around CD 14... which would put me due for AF in the next few days.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks for the reassurance... I know timing isn't as big a factor (which is why I went ahead and DTD 4 times this cycle) BUT I am pissed about possibly Oing on the cusp of a girl/boy moon sign. I know not a lot of people put stock in that, and I guess I wouldn't care so much, but I had been so excited that the moon sign changed CD12 in the pm and stayed in a boy sign until today, so I thought for sure we were in the clear! It was the first cycle that I had gotten to attempt during a boy moon sign, so I guess it is an extra let down that it possibly didn't happen. :(

I hear you, but don't let it get you down. I don't believe in any of that, personally. I looked up my girls and they were both in boy signs. And both were boy zone on that Chinese chart too. So much of it is wrong that I just can't imagine it is real, kwim? I just chalk all of that stuff up to fun, to be honest. Not to discount those who believe in it, I respect that, I just don't want you to get down because of it! Plus, I really think you Oed later than you think.

[TTC5]

I'm not really sure as I didn't temp or opk.. see my post above :)

[LolaInLove]

You might have twins. You never know! :) OMG, if I had twin boys, I would be shocked as all hell. That would be like one in a million odds with our shitty fertility, I would think. I did not discount it so much when I was taking Clomid, but now, I think it's a near impossibility.

[LolaInLove]

I'm not really sure as I didn't temp or opk.. see my post above :) I say just ask your doc....maybe they will?

[TTC5]

I will ask xx

[TTC5]

Found this:

A blood test can also detect hCG. Blood tests are more sensitive than urine tests and can detect pregnancy from about six to eight days after ovulation. However you will not be offered a blood test for pregnancy until after your period is due, and even then only if there is a medical need

[TTC5]

Me again. UGH I have lasted this long without TWW obessing but now think I have well and truley caved!
So looked at my chart and I got a high on CD 14 and 15. I never O sooner so am guessing I would have peaked CD 16(and this is when I O) as I usually get 2 highs and then the peak. Soooo today is CD 24 (so I would be 8 dpo today).

[Hobbermittens]

Me again. UGH I have lasted this long without TWW obessing but now think I have well and truley caved!
So looked at my chart and I got a high on CD 14 and 15. I never O sooner so am guessing I would have peaked CD 16(and this is when I O) as I usually get 2 highs and then the peak. Soooo today is CD 24 (so I would be 8 dpo today).

Then you can test tomorrow?

[Princess of Pink]

Test with an opk...

[TTC5]

Might just get a blood test if they bulk bill. $$ are very very tight this week!!

[Hobbermittens]

OMG, if I had twin boys, I would be shocked as all hell. That would be like one in a million odds with our shitty fertility, I would think. I did not discount it so much when I was taking Clomid, but now, I think it's a near impossibility.

You never know! The older you get, the higher your chances of twins.:)

[Cinss]

TTC5 its still too early to do any home tests. If you go to the doc to ask about your poopy problem, they may dismiss your blood test request unless you lie and tell them AF is late, even then they will probably get you to POAS first, which will probably come up negative because you are only 8dpo.

[Princess of Pink]

POP, haven't the psychics been wrong a good bit? I have to say, I would not base my decision to not have any more kids or stop swaying or whatever on what they say. Heck, one said I'd have 2 boys after my 2 girls. Like that is going to happen. You know what I mean......don't get discouraged by all of this, and PLEASE don't feel like you are a girl-making freak. It may be that you and your DH are programmed to make girls, but MAYBE with swaying for a bit your tides will turn blue! Don't give up!

Twin boys!! You go girl!! I know what you mean and logically my brain knows these psychics are not always right...but it's very disheartening ya know!!

[Princess of Pink]

I totally get that. I had a few tell me girl, too, and i thought the same thing...why bother doing anything if I am just getting another girl? It ends up making you feel like the whole chicken and the egg thing, right? Like would you get another girl if you swayed, or is it that you won't bother swaying because you are predicted a girl, so then you get a girl? (Does that make sense?)

Three of my girl predictions are already passed because I didn't get pregnant when they said, so I am hoping that means I am in the clear!

That reasoning is pretty good hon! Just can't fight the desire to join the TTC a Girl forum so that I actually have a sucess for a change rofl. I will keep up with my sway....I believe swaying boy is healthier for any gender baby anyway, and results in a quicker BFP!! I hope the readings that said girl were wrong for you and Cara was spot on!!

[love being a mummy]

How soon can a pregnancy show with a blood test?

I'd say about 10dpo ?

[love being a mummy]

No idea, I have never had a blood test before lol.. AF is due around 4 days *I think* could be due sooner or a few days after that.. I didn't use opks but did cave and used the last of my CBFM sticks and got a high reading on both those days around CD 16/17 BUT hard to say wether a peak occured BEFORE those or AFTER IYKWIM? I had strong O pain 2ish days before I did those tests so could be possible I o'd around CD 14... which would put me due for AF in the next few days.
I hope the Dr agrees to a blood test

[skrimpy]

5 I would ask for test!

3P1B I am soooo glad he has turned! Honor fooled me with positioning quite a bit, too :). You are just going to love having that little man in your arms!

Flava, I got a couple of DVD's to work out with in addition to some strength training and I am really enjoying them. My fav is a Bar Method DVD... Challenging but not over the top. I am loving how my body is starting to look :)

Hobber I am keeping FX for a blue bean for you.

FX for everyone attempting in the next few days.

AFM - my temps are still low so I def did not ovulate. I am not sure what is going on, I have been feeling crampy the past few days so maybe AF is getting ready to start. It's driving me nuts to feel like I'm not sure what's happening with my own body. In a way I will be happy to be back to my clockwork cycles, AF visits and all!

[Cinss]

If i was to take a psychic reading seriously i would need to see testimonial after testimonial that this person has a success rate of 100% when predicting the gender of unconcieved children. They have as much credibility as Joe Blow walking down the street, taking a guess is easy, its a guess. My sister was told by 3 different psychics that she would have a girl for her 3rd, guess what, she had a boy. These people are taking money from vulnurable people who desperatly want to hear what they want to hear, and some keep going until they hear the right guess.

[Yahmama]

No, it was open still the night of CD13. But it is definitely closed today (CD15).Who knows? Yahmama, it was more than just beong up a bunch. It was that I was actually awake and laying there about 1/2 hour before I took my temp. I am not sure what that means. I also slept like crap ( you know that kind of fitful sleep where you wake up every few minutes). I had another similar night earlier in the cycle and it was my highest temp all cycle. Who know, I guess there is no telling, I just wanted this cycle to be perfect and then my stupid body had to throw a wrench in it!

I figure there's so many factors that we are never going to get a completely perfect month and that staying positive is probably best and to forget the rest that will drive us batty!!! So, here's to tons of :bluecheer: for all of us this month!!!!

[soni]

Hey Soni! Welcome over. There have been a lot of good oopsies on this site lately, if it makes you feel better! (Mostly with the girl swayers.) I'm 3dpo so we can go batty together. :pray:


Thanks Lola! This is the first time I am experiencing the 2ww and its killing me. All I can think about is whether I am pregnant or not. The days are crawling by.. LOL

[Son4meplz]

I am new here and catching up with posts at snails speed..
Yahmama: good luck for tonight.
Soni: welcome..don't worry too much...sometimes even with all the preparations and planning, one cannot perfect the attempt.
HobberMittens: good to know that the baby turned.

[Son4meplz]

I am guessing my attempt will be on Sunday night....sadly, I ran out of all cheap OPks..now, the only ones I have are smiley ones...completely forgot About this...does anyone know some cheaper options?

I am also very worried about egg white and instead cup choices....never tried before...I am confused between these two options...any suggestions are welcome.
1) insert egg white inside and then DTD directly inside.
2) Collect semen in instead cup and then layer with egg white and push the cup inside.

please suggest which one is better.

[Yahmama]

I am guessing my attempt will be on Sunday night....sadly, I ran out of all cheap OPks..now, the only ones I have are smiley ones...completely forgot About this...does anyone know some cheaper options?

I am also very worried about egg white and instead cup choices....never tried before...I am confused between these two options...any suggestions are welcome.
1) insert egg white inside and then DTD directly inside.
2) Collect semen in instead cup and then layer with egg white and push the cup inside.

please suggest which one is better.

I personally think it's best for DH to deposit as close to your cervix as possible instead of inside the instead cup. I put in the instead cup afterwards to hold everything up there for a few hours after BD!

[Hobbermittens]

I personally think it's best for DH to deposit as close to your cervix as possible instead of inside the instead cup. I put in the instead cup afterwards to hold everything up there for a few hours after BD!

I agree. I only used the instead cup when I needed to get up afterwards, but if I was just laying down for the night, I didn't mess with it. It is up to you!

[TTC5]

I have a blockage/obstruction been given some FLEET (phospho soda) and if that doesn't work hopsital I go. Nothing is in my bowel hence the no urge to go its all blocked in the intestines. I'm also getting tested next week my thyroid and for diabetes (on Tuesday).
Dr will do a BT for pregnancy next week.

[Cinss]

TTC5, glad you got that checked out... hopefully the drink works. And Yay, if no AF next week you will get the BT :)

[Cinss]

son4me goodluck with your attempt on Sunday, i get my cheap OPKs on ebay, but they take a few days to arrive. Just keep checking your cervix, when it is soft and open you are really really close to O. I won't use EW personally, but if you want to i would just insert some the same way you would with lube and DTD the normal way (doggie) for deepest penetration. Then chuck the instead cup in if you really want to.

[Kris217]

Yep, I have Gestational Diabetes....I thought I would! Gotta see another Dr and learn about testing my blood sugar and what to eat and not to eat etc. Then my Ob wants to do a scan to check how big the baby is and how much fluid I have.

[Plum3]

Hey ladies! :)

I don't have time to go back and read days worth of posts so I'm jumping back in here. Have had a crazy week and haven't had time to jump on here. I hate being so behind so fill me in on things I've missed!

Welcome to all the newbies!!

AFM... tested today at apparently 12dpo- BFN. I don't actually think I O'd after the trigger injection. My temps are always a reliable indicator for when O has occurred and according to FF I only O'd 6 days ago, which I think is correct because I had SHOW and EWCM. Guess I will just have to wait it out. *sigh*

[Yahmama]

I woke up in the middle of the night with O pains, and then this morning about 6:30 am they were SO painful like someone was stabbing me with a knife! That lasted about 15 min. and they have subsided again, so I really think I O'd when it was the most painful. We DTD last night, exactly 12 hours before the stabbing pain, so I have my FX extra tight for a BFP this month and that it would be sticky and a boy! So, DH ended up with about a 60 hr. abstain since he released Tues morning. Now for that LONG 2WW!!!!

[Yahmama]

Hey ladies! :)

I don't have time to go back and read days worth of posts so I'm jumping back in here. Have had a crazy week and haven't had time to jump on here. I hate being so behind so fill me in on things I've missed!

Welcome to all the newbies!!

AFM... tested today at apparently 12dpo- BFN. I don't actually think I O'd after the trigger injection. My temps are always a reliable indicator for when O has occurred and according to FF I only O'd 6 days ago, which I think is correct because I had SHOW and EWCM. Guess I will just have to wait it out. *sigh*

So, if you O'd 6 days ago, your 2WW turns into like a 3 WW? :( So sorry! FX for you

[love being a mummy]

I have a blockage/obstruction been given some FLEET (phospho soda) and if that doesn't work hopsital I go. Nothing is in my bowel hence the no urge to go its all blocked in the intestines. I'm also getting tested next week my thyroid and for diabetes (on Tuesday).
Dr will do a BT for pregnancy next week.
I hope the FLEET helps, shame about the Dr not doing a BT until next week.


I woke up in the middle of the night with O pains, and then this morning about 6:30 am they were SO painful like someone was stabbing me with a knife! That lasted about 15 min. and they have subsided again, so I really think I O'd when it was the most painful. We DTD last night, exactly 12 hours before the stabbing pain, so I have my FX extra tight for a BFP this month and that it would be sticky and a boy! So, DH ended up with about a 60 hr. abstain since he released Tues morning. Now for that LONG 2WW!!!!
Good luck

[Son4meplz]

I personally think it's best for DH to deposit as close to your cervix as possible instead of inside the instead cup. I put in the instead cup afterwards to hold everything up there for a few hours after BD!

Thanks Yahmama. You are right about depositing close to the cervix and i am not very comfortable with Doggie :) that's why leaning towards having everything in instead cup and push it up as close as possible.

I have never tried instead cup so a question here.....when you insert the cup after DTD, does it move all the semen up when pushed OR can it actually block some of them along the way?

[Son4meplz]

I woke up in the middle of the night with O pains, and then this morning about 6:30 am they were SO painful like someone was stabbing me with a knife! That lasted about 15 min. and they have subsided again, so I really think I O'd when it was the most painful. We DTD last night, exactly 12 hours before the stabbing pain, so I have my FX extra tight for a BFP this month and that it would be sticky and a boy! So, DH ended up with about a 60 hr. abstain since he released Tues morning. Now for that LONG 2WW!!!!

Sounds like you absolutely nailed it down...FX and may you get a BFP soon.

[Hobbermittens]

I woke up in the middle of the night with O pains, and then this morning about 6:30 am they were SO painful like someone was stabbing me with a knife! That lasted about 15 min. and they have subsided again, so I really think I O'd when it was the most painful. We DTD last night, exactly 12 hours before the stabbing pain, so I have my FX extra tight for a BFP this month and that it would be sticky and a boy! So, DH ended up with about a 60 hr. abstain since he released Tues morning. Now for that LONG 2WW!!!!
Wow, good job! I wish I could pinpoint my O like that. Sounds like you had perfect timing!

[Hobbermittens]

Hey ladies! :)
AFM... tested today at apparently 12dpo- BFN. I don't actually think I O'd after the trigger injection. My temps are always a reliable indicator for when O has occurred and according to FF I only O'd 6 days ago, which I think is correct because I had SHOW and EWCM. Guess I will just have to wait it out. *sigh*

Is it possible for the trigger to not work? I didn't know that. Good luck with your 2WW!

[Hobbermittens]

Yep, I have Gestational Diabetes....I thought I would! Gotta see another Dr and learn about testing my blood sugar and what to eat and not to eat etc. Then my Ob wants to do a scan to check how big the baby is and how much fluid I have.

Oh no! :( I'm sorry Kris! I hope it isn't too hard to regulate.

[Hobbermittens]

I have a blockage/obstruction been given some FLEET (phospho soda) and if that doesn't work hopsital I go. Nothing is in my bowel hence the no urge to go its all blocked in the intestines. I'm also getting tested next week my thyroid and for diabetes (on Tuesday).
Dr will do a BT for pregnancy next week.

That doesn't sound fun. I hope the drink works. I have had to drink that in preparation for a colonoscopy, and it really cleaned me out!

[Yahmama]

Thanks Yahmama. You are right about depositing close to the cervix and i am not very comfortable with Doggie :) that's why leaning towards having everything in instead cup and push it up as close as possible.

I have never tried instead cup so a question here.....when you insert the cup after DTD, does it move all the semen up when pushed OR can it actually block some of them along the way?

I'm not sure how it does with contents already inside the cup since I've never put one in full with anything. I decided against egg whites, which I know a lot of ladies put inside the cup, but my DH and I decided not to go that route since I was getting my pH up to 7 with bs drink & douche and his pH was a 9...didn't want to add another factor in there.
Maybe you could "practice" with the cup a little bit before your attempt? Maybe try some preseed or something in there and do a trial run?

[Yahmama]

Wow, good job! I wish I could pinpoint my O like that. Sounds like you had perfect timing!

Thank you!! It's never been this painful before, so I never know when during all the O pains ovulation occurs, but I swear those 15 minutes felt like someone was stabbing me with a knife! It hurt even when my husband tried to hug me--painful to the touch! Hoping my extra vitamin-rich eating and everything maybe helped me to have a better ovulation? It sure has been easier than the IG diet!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Doula - yep he listened! I'm so glad I did all the inversions, music, heat and cold stuff. I refused to get wheeled into the OR without a fight!

Hobber - there is no perfect cycle or perfect attempt. The month I conceived was a complete mess.
I am so relieved. My midwife suggested lots of walking to help his head to lock in to my pelvis. Once he's locked in he can't turn again.

5 - I followed spinning babies to get him down, I'll be following it keep him there :)

Lola - As soon as I posted (here and facebook) I was told over and over about the spinning babies site. I know so many mommas that used it so I went for it. I've already been reading up on helping him stay put :)
Yep, Silver. I guess there are worse crayons they could have named her after lol

Princess - I doubt your a girl producing freak lol After 3 girls I never thought I'd get a boy but here I am 36 wks pregnant with a son. Do yourself a favor, venture on over and read all the info about swaying girl. Most of us just flat don't know how hard we were swaying pink. Focus on changing your strongest girl factors and have a little faith :)

Son4meplz - Welcome!! fx for a speedy and blue bfp!
Get a bit of the ew inside and have dh deposit inside as well. Are you using ew for they sway or because of a lack of ewcm? I'm not a fan of doggy either, there's a lot of missionary variations that can be just as deep as doggy. Here's what we did when we got our guy, warning it's cg people but it is animated lol Deep Stick | SexInfo101.com (http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml)

Kris - bummer on the diabetes, at least it's not for too long. FX your little girl is just the right size :)

Bec - fx hun!

Yahmama - sounds like you've got a great chance at a bfp!! fx it's sticky and blue! I totally agree the HE diet is awesome compared to the IG diet.

[Hobbermittens]

. Here's what we did when we got our guy, warning it's cg people but it is animated lol Deep Stick | SexInfo101.com (http://www.sexinfo101.com/sp_deepstick.shtml)



We did a variation of this-- I didn't have my legs that high up, but DH was really deep in there. We decided not to DTD doggie style, because we conceived one DD that way and I think it is hard to keep the semen in there while trying to flip over and lay down afterwards.

[LolaInLove]

I agree. I only used the instead cup when I needed to get up afterwards, but if I was just laying down for the night, I didn't mess with it. It is up to you!

Me too. The other method is the Modified Swim Up (Flava did this with DD4, I believe?), where you are trying to get the "faster" sperm to swim up into your cervix. We have kind of abandoned that, to be honest, because it is SUPER HARD to do and also not proven to work. I lay with hips propped for at least 30 minutes, then put the IC in while still propped and leave it in all day or night. There are a couple ladies who are still messing with the MSU method, but if you ask me, I think it is a pain and doesn't have any benefit over just plain sex.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks Yahmama. You are right about depositing close to the cervix and i am not very comfortable with Doggie :) that's why leaning towards having everything in instead cup and push it up as close as possible.

I have never tried instead cup so a question here.....when you insert the cup after DTD, does it move all the semen up when pushed OR can it actually block some of them along the way?

Well, I will say from experience that you can end up pushing some out if you don't do it correctly. That is why I do it while upside down (hips propped) so that nothing is spilling out while I put it in. I really would just dtd and not mess with the semen and ew in cup thing. No one does it anymore because it doesn't work well and people didn't get pg fast with that method, either. You don't have to do doggie style, just have your DH push in as much as possible when he ejaculates. 3P1B did it missionary with deep penetration, and sometimes we do that too. Put a pillow up under your hips right away as well- or you can just do it ON the pillow with your hips propped. I'm not trying to discourage you from the instead cups thing, but I've been doing this for a year and a half and I have rarely seen it work.

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber - that's how I felt, I hated the flop to one side like a dead dog lol

Son4meplz - yep, what lola said

[LolaInLove]

Hey everyone!

TTC5, I am sorry you have a blockage, that sucks! Hope you feel better soon. I had a feeling you were less than 10 dpo from a post a while back.....now you just have to chill out until you get back in there for a beta! Easier said than done, yea?

POP, you are right, I guess the twin factor increases with age. I still doubt I would ever have twins. I totally agree with Cinss about the psychics.....if there was one who was 100% right for like hundreds of women, I would maybe pay attention, but I REALLY do think they are just people who pray on us desperate mamas and steal our money. As nice and sweet as they can be online, but they admit on their websites that it is just entertainment. SO DON'T GET DISCOURAGED!

Skrimpy, I am so jealous that you've lost almost 30lbs! WAY TO GO! I'm gonna check out this Bar Method dvd. Is it ballet? It is frustrating to have your cycle wonkety after a baby, I remember. Do yours get normal after weaning? I know you bf for a while.

Soni, welcome to the dreaded 2ww! I have ttc so long that I don't even care anymore to be honest, so maybe I can keep your mind off it by reminding you that it will just make you nuts! I do get a bit excited here and there when I have a cramp around implantation time or my boobs hurt, but I have learned that my body feels pg every month just because of the progesterone in it. Boo. Try to keep your mind off it by obsessing about eating super healthy or something! Of course, this is a great site for obsessing, so maybe just indulge yourself with it!

Kris, BALLS to gestational diabetes! Well, it can be easily controlled and is temporary, so that is the good news. You will be a super healthy eater before you know it! I have had several friends with gd and all handled it totally fine. I am sorry you have to deal with that, though. xxoo

Yahmama, NICE JOB! We are all rooting for an easy blue bfp!!!

Bec, what the heck with the trigger not working? Are you still on Clomid? I am sorry you got pushed back. Well, you can go 2ww bonkers with half of us, at least. I am 4dpo myself today. How many months have you been ttc now? Did it take you this long with your girls? (Sorry for the 20 Q's, LOL). I hope you land preggers soon, my friend.

Well, I hope we all get preggo soon, for that matter. Will be offline all weekend, so chat with you chicas on Monday!

[LolaInLove]

3P1B, I love that you posted that link again. When you first did a while ago, I must have looked at that site for hours. HAHA!

[Cinss]

3P1B, I love that you posted that link again. When you first did a while ago, I must have looked at that site for hours. HAHA!

Hahahaha, that couple sure have stamina ;)

[Plum3]

Yep, I have Gestational Diabetes....I thought I would! Gotta see another Dr and learn about testing my blood sugar and what to eat and not to eat etc. Then my Ob wants to do a scan to check how big the baby is and how much fluid I have.

Sorry about the GD Kris. Hopefully everything is ok with bub and the fluid.

[Plum3]

I woke up in the middle of the night with O pains, and then this morning about 6:30 am they were SO painful like someone was stabbing me with a knife! That lasted about 15 min. and they have subsided again, so I really think I O'd when it was the most painful. We DTD last night, exactly 12 hours before the stabbing pain, so I have my FX extra tight for a BFP this month and that it would be sticky and a boy! So, DH ended up with about a 60 hr. abstain since he released Tues morning. Now for that LONG 2WW!!!!

Yay for O'ing. Welcome to the 2ww :)

[Plum3]

So, if you O'd 6 days ago, your 2WW turns into like a 3 WW? :( So sorry! FX for you

Yep, still have another week to go now :(

[Plum3]

Is it possible for the trigger to not work? I didn't know that. Good luck with your 2WW!

Well apparently it works 98% of the time. I have had it once before, years ago and it didn't work either. Sometimes a follicle can be mistaken for a cyst so maybe I had a cyst and not a follicle?

[Plum3]

3p, thanks for the luck.

So, Charlie has turned now??

[Plum3]

Bec, what the heck with the trigger not working? Are you still on Clomid? I am sorry you got pushed back. Well, you can go 2ww bonkers with half of us, at least. I am 4dpo myself today. How many months have you been ttc now? Did it take you this long with your girls? (Sorry for the 20 Q's, LOL). I hope you land preggers soon, my friend.


I know! It's so darn frustrating. I think maybe I had a cyst and not a mature follicle. But who knows? My doctor did the ultrasound this time instead of the nurse and he is quiet fast and doesn't really take his time measuring the actual follicle sizes and lining. He just told me I had one medium sized follicle and that was it. I'm 7dpo now if I go by FF and my own thoughts. We've been trying 3 months now, so not that long really. First time I O'd with both my girls I fell pregnant. It took a few months on meds to actually O though. I think my doc might get me to move onto FSH injections soon as that's what he did last time.

Good luck this month to you as well hun!

[Plum3]

5, I hope the fleet worked. Awful things aren't they?

[TTC5]

Had a second lot and it finally worked yayy!!!
So off to my dr Tuesday for thyroid tests and diabetes (and a BT for pregnany) and he also said we can have a good chat about "getting us pregnant" :) That is if I am not utd now which I doubt I am!!

[Cinss]

Great news TTC5 :)

[TTC5]

We did a variation of this-- I didn't have my legs that high up, but DH was really deep in there. We decided not to DTD doggie style, because we conceived one DD that way and I think it is hard to keep the semen in there while trying to flip over and lay down afterwards.

We do this too ;)

[TTC5]

Yep, I have Gestational Diabetes....I thought I would! Gotta see another Dr and learn about testing my blood sugar and what to eat and not to eat etc. Then my Ob wants to do a scan to check how big the baby is and how much fluid I have.

Were you having symptoms? xx

[TTC5]

Hey ladies! :)

I don't have time to go back and read days worth of posts so I'm jumping back in here. Have had a crazy week and haven't had time to jump on here. I hate being so behind so fill me in on things I've missed!

Welcome to all the newbies!!

AFM... tested today at apparently 12dpo- BFN. I don't actually think I O'd after the trigger injection. My temps are always a reliable indicator for when O has occurred and according to FF I only O'd 6 days ago, which I think is correct because I had SHOW and EWCM. Guess I will just have to wait it out. *sigh*

Does that mean the trigger did not work?

[3Pink1Blue]

lola - I love that site, good ideas without being super graphic and having to look at creepy looking people lol

cinss - yep they go on and on lol

Bec - yep he's turned but I'll be having weekly quickie u/s to make sure the little goober stays that way :bigsmile:

5 - so glad things are moving again and yay for the "getting us pregnant" chat!

[Plum3]

Does that mean the trigger did not work?

That's what I'm thinking. It only works if you have a mature follicle/s. Pretty much guaranteed to work if that's the case. My doc said I had a medium follicle but maybe it was a cyst or the follicle wasn't big enough yet.

Good news on the fleet working! Hope the doctor's appointment goes well too.

[Plum3]

3, oh yay, good news on turning little Charlie. You'll get to see him every week now, which is nice!

[skrimpy]

Skrimpy, I am so jealous that you've lost almost 30lbs! WAY TO GO! I'm gonna check out this Bar Method dvd. Is it ballet? It is frustrating to have your cycle wonkety after a baby, I remember. Do yours get normal after weaning? I know you bf for a while.

Lola the Bar Method was developed by a dancer, and it does use a bar for support, but it's not actually ballet. It's strength training and toning. I use the dip bars on DH's pull-up unit for my ballet bar lol! I really enjoy it. The kids like trying to do it right along with me, hah!

My cycles with the first three started while they were nursing and got normal right away. With #4, they started back around this age, but took like 6 months to get normal. I've nursed all of them til past a year, two until two, and one (#3) until 32 months... but my periods came back long before they weaned. I am kind of hoping if they come back soon with Honor they will hurry themselves up and be like clockwork. I don't like the wondering and wonkiness! She is enthusiastic about solids, so I am expecting it to come back anytime.

[Princess of Pink]

3P1B - OMG...how do they physically do some of those positions? I looked at that site for an hour!! LOL

[Hobbermittens]

Had a second lot and it finally worked yayy!!!
So off to my dr Tuesday for thyroid tests and diabetes (and a BT for pregnany) and he also said we can have a good chat about "getting us pregnant" :) That is if I am not utd now which I doubt I am!!

Oh good!! Was it an enema? Ii realized the stuff I took wasn't that, it was something else I had to drink. ANyway glad you are cleaned out!

[TTC5]

That's what I'm thinking. It only works if you have a mature follicle/s. Pretty much guaranteed to work if that's the case. My doc said I had a medium follicle but maybe it was a cyst or the follicle wasn't big enough yet.

Good news on the fleet working! Hope the doctor's appointment goes well too.

If he did mistake it for a cyst, is there a chance you have still caught the egg if it released a bit later? xx

[TTC5]

Oh good!! Was it an enema? Ii realized the stuff I took wasn't that, it was something else I had to drink. ANyway glad you are cleaned out!

No not an enema, Dr said that would not have worked anyway as my bowel/rectum was empty hence why I had to urge to go, everything was stuck in the intestine bits x

[Plum3]

If he did mistake it for a cyst, is there a chance you have still caught the egg if it released a bit later? xx

Yes, there is a chance. We probably got in two attempts that might be ok... O-4 and O-2. I'm doubtful about the O-4 but there's still hope.

[TTC5]

I know my 3rd was conceived around 5 days before O so you never know!!

[Kris217]

Were you having symptoms? xx

Nope, not that I am aware of anyway.

[Plum3]

I know my 3rd was conceived around 5 days before O so you never know!!

Really? There is hope for me then :)

[Yahmama]

Yes, there is a chance. We probably got in two attempts that might be ok... O-4 and O-2. I'm doubtful about the O-4 but there's still hope.

I'm sure you have a very good chance since sperm live up to 5 days!

[3Pink1Blue]

Bec - I don't so much get to see him as get to see where his noggin is.

POP - yeah some of those positions are brutal, like need a safety net and helmet lol

[TTC5]

So my neighbour asked me if I am pregnant.. she has no idea we wre TTC.. she said she has a funny feeling I am... offered me one of her HPT.... not sure if I should or not. Too scared of a BFN... or just wait two days till I see the dr...

AF is due Tuesday-Friday and I am around 10dpo I think, let me check.. WDYGT.. should I grab that test and test today??

[Yahmama]

So my neighbour asked me if I am pregnant.. she has no idea we wre TTC.. she said she has a funny feeling I am... offered me one of her HPT.... not sure if I should or not. Too scared of a BFN... or just wait two days till I see the dr...

AF is due Tuesday-Friday and I am around 10dpo I think, let me check.. WDYGT.. should I grab that test and test today??

Free HPT, I'd GO for it!!!

[TTC5]

Yes don't really have anything to lose hey..

[Princess of Pink]

Do it!!! We expect an update first thing in the morning.

[TTC5]

Think I might, may as well hey..

So another thing just brushed my teeth and my gums bled.. they NEVER bleed.

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - not to be a bummer but I'd wait another day or so, you know decrease your odds of a bfn.
Bloody gums, I only get that during pregnancy too!!!!

[TTC5]

Do you really Jen? Do you think you had it in the TWW or close to AF being due?

Either way I am getting tested at the dr on Tuesday x

[Kris217]

Or could the bleeding gums come the medicine stuff the Dr gave you to clean you out? That's one thing you've done different the past few days?? Good luck with the test though, hope it's a BFP!

[TTC5]

Or could the bleeding gums come the medicine stuff the Dr gave you to clean you out? That's one thing you've done different the past few days?? Good luck with the test though, hope it's a BFP!

I wouldn't think it would, wasnt listed in the side effects? Your probably right though, not preg related at all x

[love being a mummy]

So my neighbour asked me if I am pregnant.. she has no idea we wre TTC.. she said she has a funny feeling I am... offered me one of her HPT.... not sure if I should or not. Too scared of a BFN... or just wait two days till I see the dr...

AF is due Tuesday-Friday and I am around 10dpo I think, let me check.. WDYGT.. should I grab that test and test today??
Do it !!!!!



Did you test? I caved in and tested today BFN

[TTC5]

How many dpo are you today love?

No I didn't test as my neighbour is now not home so cant get that test lol!

[Kris217]

Or could the bleeding gums come the medicine stuff the Dr gave you to clean you out? That's one thing you've done different the past few days?? Good luck with the test though, hope it's a BFP!

Oh no I wasn't meaning it wasn't pregnancy related cos it is, just thought I'd mention it in case it was a side effect.
Bugger about the neighbour not coming home tonight, might have to catch her tomorrow :)

[Plum3]

5, how many DPO are you now?

LBAM, sorry about the BFN. How many DPO are you?

[TTC5]

Yes I might do that ;) Only cos it is for free.... LOL

[TTC5]

5, how many DPO are you now?

LBAM, sorry about the BFN. How many DPO are you?

I am 10dpo :)

My uterus is really sore today so I am really nervous this is AF coming..

[TTC5]

And a shocking lower back ache!!! Bet she comes with a vengeance the bitch!

[Plum3]

I think I would probably wait til tomorrow to test as well. It's more than likely going to be a BFN today either way because it's so early. But I know how hard it is to wait!

[TTC5]

Well couldn't test today after all as neighbour went out!

[Plum3]

Oh that's right.

I can just imagine you knocking on the neighbours door at midnight to get the test ;) I kid of course! ;)

[TTC5]

LOL Bec!!

I have been so good this cycle have not tested at all... DH has me on a ban now we got this latest fertility news.. just can't go wasting more money for more BFN's :(

[Plum3]

At least your not obsessing about it which is nice.

Because I thought I was further DPO than I was I've just kept testing every day. 8dpo today for real... going so slow!

[TTC5]

Would be so nice if we were preg together we would be due so close :)

[love being a mummy]

How many dpo are you today love?

No I didn't test as my neighbour is now not home so cant get that test lol!


5, how many DPO are you now?

LBAM, sorry about the BFN. How many DPO are you?

I am 9DPO I think, and I didn't use FMU. I am going to test in the morning using FMU
It would be really nice if we all got BFP this month :)

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - I've only had bleeding gums during 2 pregnancies, my first and this one. Both times I wasn't really paying attention so I'm not really sure when it began. Can't wait to hear what they say Tuesday!

Lbam - sorry about the bfn but odds of a bfp @ 9dpo aren't high. I know it's tough but give it a few days and test again GL!!!

[SamB]

Posted this as a new thread but maybe better in here,

I am so confused and looking for some input!

Ok so i got the coil out 4th Jan - was told that it looked like it was already expelling itself!, i had a little bleeding on the thursday and sat then nothing since. The past couple of days i have noticed my cervix getting higher and softer (so high today i can hardly reach it), cm is also creamy with a slight stretch to it. I have been taking opk's daily (around lunch time) and i did have a line last week, but no where near positive the past couple of days it has been stark negative, to the point you cant tell where the line should be!! I was expecting a line today what with the cervix and cm changes and the sharp twinges i keep getting in my left side but nothing, nada!!

I did start temp'ing, but only since Tuesday - so far i have had 2 days of 36, 3 days of 36.1 and this morning of 36.3 (but i did temp later this morning so not sure if that would effect it!)

Any ideas? Should we bd tonight incase or wait?

[Son4meplz]

Hi all,

Looks like I missed my OV day bcoz was using expired smileys OPKs. I had all the other symptoms till Friday with lower abdominal pain max on Friday night. Next day on saturday, Cervix moved down and by evening Saturday the mucus had turned creamy and all along my OPKs were negative. Last night, it just came to my mind whether OPKs are expired and yes,......they were. I had bought it 6 months ago. I am feeling stupid for not checking it and, was really sad that I will have to go through another month of torturous drinks and food. I guess even after that it's in god's hand to get me pregnant.

another thing that I noted was my OV was 2 days early and that may be contributed to grape fruit juice and royal jelly/polen bee that I was eating. However, the abdominal pain was less severe than other months...I also took alka setzler on friday(the day i observed pain). And, I read it has something to relieve the pain so may be the pain was lessened due to alka setzler. I generally feel hot around the peak time but this Friday was dealing with a deadline at work and really stressed out. So, did not feel any thing ....stress does spoil the whole thing.

I am trying to be positive....and the plan now is
1) continue with healthy diet not necessarily very high calorie...as I have already gained almost 10 lbs already.
2) will do drinks only from AF to OV....means I will stop the nasty drink now till AF comes.
3) Will continue with supplements as before.

Please suggest me if anything else I should be doing.

[Son4meplz]

loveBeingMommy: Hope that you get a BFP and blue bundle..
TTC5: Good luck hope that it's not AF and may you get a big big BFP

[Son4meplz]

Posted this as a new thread but maybe better in here,

I am so confused and looking for some input!

Ok so i got the coil out 4th Jan - was told that it looked like it was already expelling itself!, i had a little bleeding on the thursday and sat then nothing since. The past couple of days i have noticed my cervix getting higher and softer (so high today i can hardly reach it), cm is also creamy with a slight stretch to it. I have been taking opk's daily (around lunch time) and i did have a line last week, but no where near positive the past couple of days it has been stark negative, to the point you cant tell where the line should be!! I was expecting a line today what with the cervix and cm changes and the sharp twinges i keep getting in my left side but nothing, nada!!

I did start temp'ing, but only since Tuesday - so far i have had 2 days of 36, 3 days of 36.1 and this morning of 36.3 (but i did temp later this morning so not sure if that would effect it!)

Any ideas? Should we bd tonight incase or wait?

just saw your post....since you also mentioned about OPKs not giving positive..could you plz check confirm the expiration date on them?

[Son4meplz]

At least your not obsessing about it which is nice.

Because I thought I was further DPO than I was I've just kept testing every day. 8dpo today for real... going so slow!

good luck...hope you get a BFP soon..

[Hobbermittens]

I feel queasy... is it too early for that? I am either 6 or 7 DPO. Seems early to me. I guess I will see if I get a BFP.

[Son4meplz]

I'm very confused ...could it be that even when cervix has moved down the ovulation can occur in coming days. Also, did anyone have any experience with expired OPKs? The one I used has expiration date of dec 2011 and it did not give me positive when I tested few times in dec. too. However, I tested in December only 2 times around the days I saw some signs.

Also, can someone help with OV date for December month. I have heard that pinpointing OV backwards from the period date is easier but how do we do that? For example, 1st day of my period was 7 December and first day of next period was January 3rd. I thought I ovulated on 19th December...Which is 13th day from the first day of period in december but counting back from 3rd jan (first day of second cycle) ....it is 16th day...could this be incorrect?

Can someone please help?

[TTC5]

Posted this as a new thread but maybe better in here,

I am so confused and looking for some input!

Ok so i got the coil out 4th Jan - was told that it looked like it was already expelling itself!, i had a little bleeding on the thursday and sat then nothing since. The past couple of days i have noticed my cervix getting higher and softer (so high today i can hardly reach it), cm is also creamy with a slight stretch to it. I have been taking opk's daily (around lunch time) and i did have a line last week, but no where near positive the past couple of days it has been stark negative, to the point you cant tell where the line should be!! I was expecting a line today what with the cervix and cm changes and the sharp twinges i keep getting in my left side but nothing, nada!!

I did start temp'ing, but only since Tuesday - so far i have had 2 days of 36, 3 days of 36.1 and this morning of 36.3 (but i did temp later this morning so not sure if that would effect it!)

Any ideas? Should we bd tonight incase or wait?

No idea how the coil works or how soon thing resume as normal sorry xx

[TTC5]

Hi all,

Looks like I missed my OV day bcoz was using expired smileys OPKs. I had all the other symptoms till Friday with lower abdominal pain max on Friday night. Next day on saturday, Cervix moved down and by evening Saturday the mucus had turned creamy and all along my OPKs were negative. Last night, it just came to my mind whether OPKs are expired and yes,......they were. I had bought it 6 months ago. I am feeling stupid for not checking it and, was really sad that I will have to go through another month of torturous drinks and food. I guess even after that it's in god's hand to get me pregnant.

another thing that I noted was my OV was 2 days early and that may be contributed to grape fruit juice and royal jelly/polen bee that I was eating. However, the abdominal pain was less severe than other months...I also took alka setzler on friday(the day i observed pain). And, I read it has something to relieve the pain so may be the pain was lessened due to alka setzler. I generally feel hot around the peak time but this Friday was dealing with a deadline at work and really stressed out. So, did not feel any thing ....stress does spoil the whole thing.

I am trying to be positive....and the plan now is
1) continue with healthy diet not necessarily very high calorie...as I have already gained almost 10 lbs already.
2) will do drinks only from AF to OV....means I will stop the nasty drink now till AF comes.
3) Will continue with supplements as before.

Please suggest me if anything else I should be doing.

Oh bummer about having to wait another month xx

[TTC5]

I feel queasy... is it too early for that? I am either 6 or 7 DPO. Seems early to me. I guess I will see if I get a BFP.

I'd say so as implantation would only be starting if at all? But who knows!!!

[Hobbermittens]

I'm very confused ...could it be that even when cervix has moved down the ovulation can occur in coming days. Also, did anyone have any experience with expired OPKs? The one I used has expiration date of dec 2011 and it did not give me positive when I tested few times in dec. too. However, I tested in December only 2 times around the days I saw some signs.

Also, can someone help with OV date for December month. I have heard that pinpointing OV backwards from the period date is easier but how do we do that? For example, 1st day of my period was 7 December and first day of next period was January 3rd. I thought I ovulated on 19th December...Which is 13th day from the first day of period in december but counting back from 3rd jan (first day of second cycle) ....it is 16th day...could this be incorrect?

Can someone please help?

I have never counted backwards to get my O date, but I guess if you know how long your LP is typically, then you probably could do that. My LP is usually 12 days, but occasionally it will be 11 or 13, so even that isn't exact. Sorry I couldn't be of more help!

[Yahmama]

I have never counted backwards to get my O date, but I guess if you know how long your LP is typically, then you probably could do that. My LP is usually 12 days, but occasionally it will be 11 or 13, so even that isn't exact. Sorry I couldn't be of more help!

I'm the same way as Hobber...even when I know what day I've ovulated based on temping/tracking my lp still varies by a day or two from month to month so counting backwards doesn't work for me :/. Not sure why my lp isn't consistent, but maybe for others it is.

[Yahmama]

I feel queasy... is it too early for that? I am either 6 or 7 DPO. Seems early to me. I guess I will see if I get a BFP.

I guess it depends what day implantation occurs! Could have been an early one...or twins! :twins:

[Yahmama]

Hi all,

Looks like I missed my OV day bcoz was using expired smileys OPKs. I had all the other symptoms till Friday with lower abdominal pain max on Friday night. Next day on saturday, Cervix moved down and by evening Saturday the mucus had turned creamy and all along my OPKs were negative. Last night, it just came to my mind whether OPKs are expired and yes,......they were. I had bought it 6 months ago. I am feeling stupid for not checking it and, was really sad that I will have to go through another month of torturous drinks and food. I guess even after that it's in god's hand to get me pregnant.

another thing that I noted was my OV was 2 days early and that may be contributed to grape fruit juice and royal jelly/polen bee that I was eating. However, the abdominal pain was less severe than other months...I also took alka setzler on friday(the day i observed pain). And, I read it has something to relieve the pain so may be the pain was lessened due to alka setzler. I generally feel hot around the peak time but this Friday was dealing with a deadline at work and really stressed out. So, did not feel any thing ....stress does spoil the whole thing.

I am trying to be positive....and the plan now is
1) continue with healthy diet not necessarily very high calorie...as I have already gained almost 10 lbs already.
2) will do drinks only from AF to OV....means I will stop the nasty drink now till AF comes.
3) Will continue with supplements as before.

Please suggest me if anything else I should be doing.

So sorry about the opks :(. Your plan sounds great! Have you been using mucinex too? Helps with EWCM.

[TTC5]

I'm now chickening out of getting tested at the dr tomorrow and just thinking I shouldnt waste my emotions and just wait for AF to come.. gah feeling so down!

[Yahmama]

LOL Bec!!

I have been so good this cycle have not tested at all... DH has me on a ban now we got this latest fertility news.. just can't go wasting more money for more BFN's :(

Are you going to get the test from your neighbor soon since she was gone the other day? :)

[Hobbermittens]

I'm now chickening out of getting tested at the dr tomorrow and just thinking I shouldnt waste my emotions and just wait for AF to come.. gah feeling so down!

I bet the Dr wouldn't be able to tell you right away about the test anyway, right? You might have to wait, so it would give AF time to arrive if she is going to...hope she doesn't!

[Yahmama]

I'm now chickening out of getting tested at the dr tomorrow and just thinking I shouldnt waste my emotions and just wait for AF to come.. gah feeling so down!

I would think it would give you a little break from the stress of not knowing if the dr, tests you! A blood test can detect a positive much sooner than an hpt, so you could know even if af isn't due for over 5-6 days I think! They get the results back a couple of hours at my dr. Office so pretty short wait too. :fingers:

[TTC5]

I bet the Dr wouldn't be able to tell you right away about the test anyway, right? You might have to wait, so it would give AF time to arrive if she is going to...hope she doesn't!

No idea I have never had a BT for pregnancy before?

[TTC5]

Are you going to get the test from your neighbor soon since she was gone the other day? :)

I don't think I will nah... don't want anyone knowing we are TTC..

[TTC5]

Off topic but I think I'm getting blocked up again :( Can feel everything built up under my rib cage along the intestinal tract getting bloated and pain but nothing is getting down to the bowel/rectum again :( I was cleared out Saturday from the fleet..

[Cinss]

TTC5 My friend had a BT for pregnancy and they wouldn't tell her the results over the phone, she had to go in and really got her hopes up, then was told it was negative. Don't know why they wouldn't tell over the phone esp cause it was neg. Best of luck to you though... got my FX for ya. And bleeding gums may be a preg sign.

LBAM sorry for the BFN, Goodluck for your next 1, still early hun, i know its so hard to wait.

[TTC5]

Oh stuff that, if they can't tell me over the phone I don't want one done. I don't want to break down in the dr office :( Might just wait for AF.

[Cinss]

Son4meplz keep doing the OPK's, my cervix opens up for about 4 days before i get a +v OPK. The expiration date is not that old, i wouldn't worry too much about it, if they were 6 months over i'd say get new ones. You really need to be doing at least 1 everyday till you get the +v. And as for counting back, i am lucky my LP is always 14 days, are you using FF to track everything? You need to be tracking a few cycles to be able to see a pattern counting back.

[Hobbermittens]

I guess it depends what day implantation occurs! Could have been an early one...or twins! :twins:

No thanks on the twins! I think I would lose my mind. I would have liked twins for the first or second pregnancy, but after the hellion I have as my 3rd baby, I really don't think I could handle twins for #4 & 5!:hair:

[Hobbermittens]

Off topic but I think I'm getting blocked up again :( Can feel everything built up under my rib cage along the intestinal tract getting bloated and pain but nothing is getting down to the bowel/rectum again :( I was cleared out Saturday from the fleet..

Can you take some more medicine? I wonder what's blocking you--did the doctor have any idea? Is it too much meat/not enough fiber?

[TTC5]

I'm not doing the diet anymore and I do get lots of fibre and water!!! Dr has no idea but wants to find out whats going on. I dont think I can take more as I think it can be damaging to the kidneys if you take it too often?

[Cinss]

I feel queasy... is it too early for that? I am either 6 or 7 DPO. Seems early to me. I guess I will see if I get a BFP.

Some ladies do report feeling sick at implantation :)

[Yahmama]

Oh stuff that, if they can't tell me over the phone I don't want one done. I don't want to break down in the dr office :( Might just wait for AF.

I have them done with each pregnancy bc of my miscarriage history and they tell me over the phone on the same day I go in for the test. Maybe ask your dr their policy so you know?

[TTC5]

I will ask :)

[Yahmama]

No thanks on the twins! I think I would lose my mind. I would have liked twins for the first or second pregnancy, but after the hellion I have as my 3rd baby, I really don't think I could handle twins for #4 & 5!:hair:

Hopefully it's implantation then and not two beans!!! I go back and forth on wanting twins...I know it's gotta be SO hard, but it's twice the cuteness! The thought has crossed my mind that my O pains were SO terribly painful this cycle and they have NEVER been like that before that I wonder if the increased progesterone from my chemical last month could have made me ovulate two eggs??? Anyone know about that probability?

[Hobbermittens]

I'm not doing the diet anymore and I do get lots of fibre and water!!! Dr has no idea but wants to find out whats going on. I dont think I can take more as I think it can be damaging to the kidneys if you take it too often?

Well, maybe your dr will do a colonoscopy... not fun, but you will know what is going on!

[Hobbermittens]

Hopefully it's implantation then and not two beans!!! I go back and forth on wanting twins...I know it's gotta be SO hard, but it's twice the cuteness! The thought has crossed my mind that my O pains were SO terribly painful this cycle and they have NEVER been like that before that I wonder if the increased progesterone from my chemical last month could have made me ovulate two eggs??? Anyone know about that probability?

I don't know anything about that, but I wonder if you are right about those O pains. ?

[3Pink1Blue]

SamB - I assume by coil you mean IUD? Which one did you have, Mirena (hormonal) or ParaGuard (non hormonal)? If you had the ParaGuard it's highly possible that you are o'ing but I would recommend you skip this one and wait till next time. I got preg a few days after my ParaGuard came out (our only oops baby) and miscarried what my midwife thinks was a tubular. She said it's quite common when conceiving so close to it's removal. When I got my next one out I was advised to wait till after my next AF just to be safe.

son4meplz - sorry but I'm crap at pinpointing O, it took me months to think I knew mine and I wasn't sure till my 20 wk u/s confirmed his age.

awe 5, this is really not your week. Big hug hun.

[Kris217]

Oh stuff that, if they can't tell me over the phone I don't want one done. I don't want to break down in the dr office :( Might just wait for AF.

Yeah I had a BT done when I was in the 2ww and the Dr's office called about my results and said the Dr needed to talk to me. I thought it had picked up early pregnancy but I got there and he told me I didn't ovulate and will need help TTC.
It is a crappy feeling, one you want to avoid if possible. They should just tell you over the phone if it's negative. I was lucky though and did a test when I got home that showed I was in fact pregnant so that made the pain of the Dr visit go away.

[TTC5]

BFN :'(

[Yahmama]

BFN :'(

Im so sorry :hugs: was it fmu?

[TTC5]

No.. afternoon.. used a FRER.

[Yahmama]

No.. afternoon.. used a FRER.

Last month with the chemical pregnancy I had I tested in the afternoon on cd10 with a FRER and got neg but got a BFP on cd11 with fmu...there is still hope :fingers:

[Cinss]

BFN :'(

Sorry 5... Your not out yet though.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies, I hope everyone is doing well! I've been so busy ..

TTC5, I'm so sorry for the bfn hon :(

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - I know you know but it's still early, don't give up hope.

[My Fabulous Children]

Good luck to all the ladies in the 2ww :bluecheer:

[TTC5]

Who is testing soon? :)

[Plum3]

good luck...hope you get a BFP soon..

Thankyou!

Your sway plans sound great! Sorry that you missed O this time round. Onto next month :)

[Plum3]

I'm very confused ...could it be that even when cervix has moved down the ovulation can occur in coming days. Also, did anyone have any experience with expired OPKs? The one I used has expiration date of dec 2011 and it did not give me positive when I tested few times in dec. too. However, I tested in December only 2 times around the days I saw some signs.

Also, can someone help with OV date for December month. I have heard that pinpointing OV backwards from the period date is easier but how do we do that? For example, 1st day of my period was 7 December and first day of next period was January 3rd. I thought I ovulated on 19th December...Which is 13th day from the first day of period in december but counting back from 3rd jan (first day of second cycle) ....it is 16th day...could this be incorrect?

Can someone please help?

I have used expired OPKs before (expired by about 3 months) and they worked fine for me.

Like a few of the others have already said, it is hard to pinpoint O day counting back from AF unless you have a consistent LP.

Based on the info you gave your cycle was 27 days long. If you think you O'd on the 19th, that would make it CD13 and therefore make your LP for that cycle 14 days.

[Plum3]

Would be so nice if we were preg together we would be due so close :)

It would be so nice!

Sorry about the BFN today :(

Are you taking regular apperients so you don't get blocked again? Coloxyl, lactulose?

[Plum3]

Who is testing soon? :)

Me! Testing tomorrow :)

[LolaInLove]

I know! It's so darn frustrating. I think maybe I had a cyst and not a mature follicle. But who knows? My doctor did the ultrasound this time instead of the nurse and he is quiet fast and doesn't really take his time measuring the actual follicle sizes and lining. He just told me I had one medium sized follicle and that was it. I'm 7dpo now if I go by FF and my own thoughts. We've been trying 3 months now, so not that long really. First time I O'd with both my girls I fell pregnant. It took a few months on meds to actually O though. I think my doc might get me to move onto FSH injections soon as that's what he did last time.

Good luck this month to you as well hun!

Well, whatever it takes, I say! Have you done shots before? Thanks, FX for you too!!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Lola the Bar Method was developed by a dancer, and it does use a bar for support, but it's not actually ballet. It's strength training and toning. I use the dip bars on DH's pull-up unit for my ballet bar lol! I really enjoy it. The kids like trying to do it right along with me, hah!

My cycles with the first three started while they were nursing and got normal right away. With #4, they started back around this age, but took like 6 months to get normal. I've nursed all of them til past a year, two until two, and one (#3) until 32 months... but my periods came back long before they weaned. I am kind of hoping if they come back soon with Honor they will hurry themselves up and be like clockwork. I don't like the wondering and wonkiness! She is enthusiastic about solids, so I am expecting it to come back anytime.

Oooo, that is cool! We have a barre at home, of course. LOL I will check that out. I just can't get myself to the gym after a long day at work....I would so much rather be home with my family making dinner and doing homework and hanging out. I have to figure out how to work out during the day.

That is nice that your cycles come back while nursing.....mine don't at all! And I just keep the weight on until I wean also. It literally melts off within the week of weaning. But eh, so worth it. So, do you guys have ttc again on the schedule?

[LolaInLove]

3P1B - OMG...how do they physically do some of those positions? I looked at that site for an hour!! LOL
RIGHT?!?! I think I'd look like a hippo getting a veterinary exam in some of those positions.

[LolaInLove]

LOL Bec!!

I have been so good this cycle have not tested at all... DH has me on a ban now we got this latest fertility news.. just can't go wasting more money for more BFN's :(

I am the same way....I only use 1 per cycle, and try to test 12dpo or later. I get 10 in the pack of Wondfo I get along with 40 opks from Amazon, so it's not that big of a bite. Heck, that combo pack is cheaper than a box of 2 FRERS. Sorry though, hun. Keep trying. All you can do.

[LolaInLove]

I have never counted backwards to get my O date, but I guess if you know how long your LP is typically, then you probably could do that. My LP is usually 12 days, but occasionally it will be 11 or 13, so even that isn't exact. Sorry I couldn't be of more help!

This is exactly right. Not everyone has a 2 week LP, so it is inaccurate. It's like the whole "just dtd on CD14 and you'll get pg" crap. My LP ranges from 11-14 days also. Best to try to pinpoint your O with opks, temps, and cm. I would not use expired tests myself. They expire for a reason, just like food and meds.

[LolaInLove]

No idea I have never had a BT for pregnancy before?

Oh, and also, my doc always just does an hpt....that is probably the first thing they will do anyway rather than draw blood and send to the lab. I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier- mine won't do a beta unless you are having problems and are definitely confirmed pg.

[LolaInLove]

Who is testing soon? :)

Me! I'm testing on Saturday (my birthday). Yikes.

Hi MFC! Hope you are feeling well, love!!!!!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Me! I'm testing on Saturday (my birthday). Yikes.



Happy early birthday, Lola! What are you doing for your big day (besides getting a BFP! :wink:)?

[Hobbermittens]

BFN :'(

Oh no! I'm so sorry... I thought for sure this was your month!

[LolaInLove]

Happy early birthday, Lola! What are you doing for your big day (besides getting a BFP! :wink:)?

:bighug: I would be happy with just that! I actually have to work for a bit, but then hopefully doing something groovy with the kids and old DH. I am sooooooo being ridiculously optimistic this month, which is maybe a bad thing. I tend to take getting my hopes dashes pretty hard, which is why I usually employ some self-protective crap like telling myself all day that I don't really want any more kids and then downing a bottle of wine after another bfn. LOL

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - yeah I too was a big fan of a few to many glasses of wine the day af appeared. FX you won't be drinking on your b-day :)

[Hobbermittens]

RIGHT?!?! I think I'd look like a hippo getting a veterinary exam in some of those positions.

ME TOO!!!!! :rofl::rofl:

[TTC5]

I am yes.. apparently it is a bowel obstruction :(
See the dr today about what happens next.. may be sent to hospital.

[TTC5]

Me! Testing tomorrow :)

Rise and Shine lol ;)

[TTC5]

Oh, and also, my doc always just does an hpt....that is probably the first thing they will do anyway rather than draw blood and send to the lab. I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier- mine won't do a beta unless you are having problems and are definitely confirmed pg.

He wants to to a BT because it may be too early to show on a urine test and I need to have xrays done on my bowel (cant have the xrays till we know I am preg or not).

[Kris217]

Oh, and also, my doc always just does an hpt....that is probably the first thing they will do anyway rather than draw blood and send to the lab. I don't know why I didn't think of this earlier- mine won't do a beta unless you are having problems and are definitely confirmed pg.

My Dr didn't give me a HPT....I thought that was weird. Just sent me off for a BT.

[Hobbermittens]

I am yes.. apparently it is a bowel obstruction :(
See the dr today about what happens next.. may be sent to hospital.

I hope they are able to fix it without much trouble. I will keep you in my thoughts!!

[TTC5]

Thanks H. An hour and half till my app.. I'm so nervous something is wrong (well obviously something IS but you know.. something serious).. So over my health issues :(

[TTC5]

I'm running out the door to go to dr but guys i got a BFP!!!!!! Something said to test again before going to the dr!!!!

[Cinss]

Oh WOW TTC5!!!!! Thats amazing news!!!! YAY, so happy for you!!!!!

[Princess of Pink]

OMG...I told ya!! It's a boy for sure!!

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5!!! OMG, I'm SO SO SO happy for you dear! A HUGE big CONGRATULATIONS to you!

[Yahmama]

I'm running out the door to go to dr but guys i got a BFP!!!!!! Something said to test again before going to the dr!!!!

:cheerteam: YEAH!!!!!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - woohoo!! So excited for you!!!

[Hobbermittens]

I'm running out the door to go to dr but guys i got a BFP!!!!!! Something said to test again before going to the dr!!!!

YAY!!!! YAY!!!! HOORAY!!! I am so excited for you! I had a good feeling about this month for you... I am SO happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!:celebrate::celebrate:

[begonia]

YAY!!!!!!!! SO happy for you TTC5!!!!! Wonderful news :)

[Bumblebee]

Very many congratulations TTC5 I knew you would get your BFP in the end!! yay!! :cheer:

[Plum3]

Yay, yay, yay!! I am so happy for you 5! :D wooooo!!

[fivebabies]

TTC5~ OMG!!!! I am sooooo happy for you! That's amazing news! Congrats!!!!

[TTC5]

Thank you sooo much guys!! I get my hgc levels Thursday. Couldn't have X-ray on bowels so dr is waiting till Thursday to see my levels thyroid diabetes etc. pray for a sticky bean for me!!!

[Kris217]

There is definitely a second line there too, so awesome!!!

[Cinss]

:pray:please oh please oh please give TTC5 a sticky sticky sticky bean:pray:

[soni]

Congratulations TTC5!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's hoping for a sticky blue bean :cheerteam:

[girlmom]

congrats ttc5!!! see i told you 11dpo was still early! i would give you blue dust but i haven't got any. good luck on a blue bean!

[love being a mummy]

I'm running out the door to go to dr but guys i got a BFP!!!!!! Something said to test again before going to the dr!!!!
Congrats again :)


There is definitely a second line there too, so awesome!!!
Is there a pic of the test, I can't see a pic

[My Fabulous Children]

Me too!!! I had a BFN at 11DPO and faint BFP on 12DPO :cheerteam:

[My Fabulous Children]

Me! I'm testing on Saturday (my birthday). Yikes.

Hi MFC! Hope you are feeling well, love!!!!!!!

I'm feeling great! Thanks :kiss:

I will be praying you get your BFP on your birthday! :pray: XOXO.

[Yahmama]

Is there a pic of the test, I can't see a pic

Me either! Is there a pic??? We want to see!!! :bowdown:

[TTC5]

I will add a pic soon as I'm
Home!! I added One to a secret Facebook group lol

[Son4meplz]

I'm running out the door to go to dr but guys i got a BFP!!!!!! Something said to test again before going to the dr!!!!

Wwwwow.....huge congrats to you....so all the symptoms were indeed pregnancy one....enjoy..:cheerteam:

[TTC5]

Ok ladies gosh home now!!!

Ok sooo... before I left for the dr this morning I thought mmm I might just check again *wishful thinking*.. last night and last night I had the worst lower back aches and in the back of my mind I did think could this be a sign.... also yesterday I cleaned the pantry out top to bottom and threw out all expired things. Hubby even said to me "Why are you cleaning the pantry babe" with a suss look on his face. I did something similiar last 2 times aswell LOL..

So tested and right away saw the faint line appear and thought MMMMM no way... I bet it will disappear but nope it got darker.. I ran and got DH to look and he said HMMM yes there def is something there.. I was shaking with shock and then had to race out the door to the dr!

Dr did one of his tests and got a +! I had heaps of blood taken most for the bowel issue but also will get my hcg levels aswell so all results Thursday.

I am due right on hubbys birthday LOL!! He is pretty stocked with that hehe!! ;)

We not telling a soul (except my online TTC friends of course!) until we are well and truley in the safe weeks so praying for a healthy sticky birthday bean for Hubby and I and the girls!!!!!

So.. my neighbour was right! Have not told her the results though yet LOL

I have a pic but is hard to see had to use my phone lol want me to post anyway?