January 2012 Chit Chat Thread for TTC Boy

[Hobbermittens]

Oh boo, Hobbs. Well, better luck for next month. I'm sorry, hun.

Trying not to be down myself. Just not feeling it today.

Lame, isn't it? I was all excited that you, me and soni would all have the same due date! Oh well. Maybe we will next month.

[Yahmama]

I am pretty sure I am out. My temp dropped to 98.2 this morning, and looking at my chart, I think I will get AF tomorrow. I am not even going to POAS if my temp is down more in the morning. :( No point in wasting a test!

So sorry, Hobbs! :(

[Yahmama]

Yahmama, the temp rise could be triphasic if implantation has occurred. See what it does tomorrow!

It def. looks triphasic to me!
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3967ba)

[Hobbermittens]

It def. looks triphasic to me!
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3967ba)

What's triphasic mean?

[LolaInLove]

What's triphasic mean?

Like has three phases of temps, or pretty much two rises....like it rises after O and then rises again dramatically after implantation.

[Yahmama]

You see two clear shifts after ovulation. This explains it better:
http://www.justmommies.com/getting-pregnant/fertility-charting-ovulation-and-prediction/what-triphasic-chart

[LolaInLove]

Lame, isn't it? I was all excited that you, me and soni would all have the same due date! Oh well. Maybe we will next month.

I feel lame for getting all excited the last few days. It would have been fun to have the same due date. Well, we are not out yet. Good to remember! I just went to lunch with a friend and her 9 week old, and she said she didn't feel anything when in the 2ww, so reminded me that being symptom-less isn't necessarily bad. She had to ttc for 7 months, but she had a vitamin d deficiency, she told me, and once she got more in her system, she got pg. At least you guys know you will at some point most likely conceive! I hate my limbo land of hell, especially since we decided we just can't do IVF....too expensive and not fair to other kids to be poor for 5-7 years paying it off just to have another one.

[TTC5]

It def. looks triphasic to me!
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3967ba)



Wow great chart!

[TTC5]

I feel lame for getting all excited the last few days. It would have been fun to have the same due date. Well, we are not out yet. Good to remember! I just went to lunch with a friend and her 9 week old, and she said she didn't feel anything when in the 2ww, so reminded me that being symptom-less isn't necessarily bad. She had to ttc for 7 months, but she had a vitamin d deficiency, she told me, and once she got more in her system, she got pg. At least you guys know you will at some point most likely conceive! I hate my limbo land of hell, especially since we decided we just can't do IVF....too expensive and not fair to other kids to be poor for 5-7 years paying it off just to have another one.

How much does IVF cost in the states?

[TTC5]

I hope it's not an ectopic :( Your level does seem low but don't they always say it's not the value of the hcg that matters so much but whether it doubles appropriately or not?

Is your sister ok? How awful :(

I hope my level is ok :(

She is stable :'(

[TTC5]

Oh, whoops, I went a little nuts with all the posts...

AF showed today. I was totally expecting her to so I'm not too disappointed. I had a blood test this morning for hcg and progesterone so just waiting to hear back from my doctor as to what the plan for this cycle is. Either another Clomid cycle or FSH injections. Either either, I don't care as long as it works!

I'm so sorry that bitch showed :(

[TTC5]

Morning, ladies.

Bec- thank you for the encouragement, you are a sweetheart. I am sorry you got AF....you think you may try the injectibles this time? How many months will your doc let you do Clomid? Mine said 6 months, but I only did 3. I know you'll get there, girl.

TTC5- how is your sis? I am so sorry!!!! Good to hear that bean is ok still. xxoo

LBAM- arg on the long cycle....I am sorry, honey. Why do you think there is no way your are pg?

3P1B- so happy Charlie is looking good and almost ready to go! I am so excited for you!!!!!!! And seriously, I saw your belly pic on the grads page and I looked WAY bigger at your stage with both, and I was a size 4-6 to begin with. I think you look great!

SO, I have this burning sensation cramp today (11dpo). Did anyone have that in the 2ww? Makes me think that AF is coming. So kinda bummed today. Yesterday, my boobs felt gigantic and sore, and not as much today. I resisted testing this morning because I am trying to hold out hope that I will get a birthday bfp in the morning, but I'm kinda doubting it now. :sad:

Those strong craps - YES I had them so much I went to the dr thinking something was wrong lol... I think I may have implanted much later than I had thought!!! It would kind of make sense with my low levels (I hope so anyway).

Sis is ok, have to wait for her to wake up and get the od out her system to check for perm. damage.

[TTC5]

BFN! :( Tested today morning at 10dpo with a cheapie. Will test again at 12dpo with FRER. No symptoms today. I feel its all in my head now!

Give it a few days at least xx

[LolaInLove]

How much does IVF cost in the states?

I am thinking it would be anywhere from 15-25 thousands. Just too much for us to handle.

[TTC5]

That is alot hey :( I don't know how your medical system works. Do you have something like we have here (Medicare) which covers some things if you do not have private health insurance? xx

[LolaInLove]

Those strong craps - YES I had them so much I went to the dr thinking something was wrong lol... I think I may have implanted much later than I had thought!!! It would kind of make sense with my low levels (I hope so anyway).

Sis is ok, have to wait for her to wake up and get the od out her system to check for perm. damage.

Oh, I hope there is no permanent damage! Poor thing! I hope you are not too stressed out about it for little bean's sake.

Glad to hear you had craps AND cramps!

[LolaInLove]

That is alot hey :( I don't know how your medical system works. Do you have something like we have here (Medicare) which covers some things if you do not have private health insurance? xx

Oh, our med/insurance system is BULLSHIT in America. I have regular health insurance through my job, costs my company about $250 a month just for me, and it covers bare minimum expenses, basically. No infertility expenses at all. Bare minimum for maternity stuff. No ultrasounds are covered. How awful is that? I make more than the limit for medicare, which we do have in USA also, but it doesn't go for infertility at all, just basic stuff. People who use medicare here just get bare bare minimum of care. Infertility and assisted reproduction in America is super expensive and not many insurance policies cover it from what I understand.

I looked into it locally, and we could get a medical loan for it, but I'd have to pay like $500-$700 a month for 6-7 years. That's a big bite into our monthly budget, and if we had a baby on top of it, we would be REALLY cutting our lifestyle down, like big time. It's just not worth it to us. I'd rather try IUI (which is $1000 or so) and just keep trying until we are out of steam or eggs, LOL....then life will just be what it is and we'll still have my 2 girls.

[Hobbermittens]

I'd rather try IUI (which is $1000 or so) and just keep trying until we are out of steam or eggs, LOL....then life will just be what it is and we'll still have my 2 girls.

When would you get going on this? I think that sounds like a great option--do they freeze the sample? Maybe you could have your DH give 2-3 samples and use them all at once? (I think this may have been suggested before? Sounds familiar).

[begonia]

Hoping to see some BFP's tomorrow gals ... it is funny how many of your cycles are all running together :) Isn't that what they say happens to women who live together? Good heavens ... my life in 8 years with all these girls :rofl: I'll switch from having my diapers delivered monthly (whoo hoo for Amazon!) to having tampons arrive by the caseload!

FX for normal cycles Skrimpy!

LBAM I'm sorry this wasn't your month :( FX for you hun.

5, hope your sis pulls through with no permanent damage :( How difficult. :hugs:

[TTC5]

The IUI sounds like a good option for you Lola? xx

Thanks B.

[Kris217]

I am thinking it would be anywhere from 15-25 thousands. Just too much for us to handle.

It's extremely expensive in America, that's why a lot of Americans travel overseas to get it done. Even with airfares it still works out cheaper!

[skrimpy]

(((hugs))) to everyone having AF show up!

It is funny how many are at the same point cycle-wise! You gals can alllllllllll send AF packing to my house ;). I'll keep her for you!

5 I hope things look up for your sister!

[skrimpy]

It def. looks triphasic to me!
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3967ba)

Looks lovely!

[love being a mummy]

What cycle day are you?
CD35


Morning, ladies.
LBAM- arg on the long cycle....I am sorry, honey. Why do you think there is no way your are pg?
Cause it would be showing up on the tests by now




LBAM, no AF yet? Can you test again?

I am pretty sure I am out. My temp dropped to 98.2 this morning, and looking at my chart, I think I will get AF tomorrow. I am not even going to POAS if my temp is down more in the morning. :( No point in wasting a test!
I've been testing every morning.
How was your temp, did you test?



LBAM I'm sorry this wasn't your month :( FX for you hun.
Thank you xx

[TTC5]

I'm really worried I'm going to lose this pregnancy or that it is ectopic :(
Just looking at dates etc and the day I got the beta test I was around 12/13 dpo (not exactly sure but I was no more than 13dpo) and beta was only 26. Have been doing googling and can't find anything on other people having a beta THIS low and progressing. Going to be a long wait till Wednesday. I'm just not feeling confident at all :(

[Yahmama]

CD35


Cause it would be showing up on the tests by now




Is it possible you could have ovulated a lot later than you expected?

[Hobbermittens]

I'm really worried I'm going to lose this pregnancy or that it is ectopic :(
Just looking at dates etc and the day I got the beta test I was around 12/13 dpo (not exactly sure but I was no more than 13dpo) and beta was only 26. Have been doing googling and can't find anything on other people having a beta THIS low and progressing. Going to be a long wait till Wednesday. I'm just not feeling confident at all :(

I have my FX for your little bean!! It has beat the odds this far; I hope it can continue to do so!!!

[Yahmama]

I'm really worried I'm going to lose this pregnancy or that it is ectopic :(
Just looking at dates etc and the day I got the beta test I was around 12/13 dpo (not exactly sure but I was no more than 13dpo) and beta was only 26. Have been doing googling and can't find anything on other people having a beta THIS low and progressing. Going to be a long wait till Wednesday. I'm just not feeling confident at all :(

We'll all be thinking of you and hoping that little bean just implanted a lot later and is still growing fine! It must be so hard to wait that long for another beta! Why are they waiting until Wed? If there was any possibility of an ectopic wouldn't they want to catch it as soon as possible??? Doesn't make sense to me why they wouldn't want to take your numbers every day??

[TTC5]

I have no idea? My dr just said to make the appointment for Wednesday to give it a few good days to show us something significant. I've never had an ectopic so this is all new for me :(

Hate feeling like this guys.

[Cinss]

TTC5, it doesn't matter how many DPO you were because implantation can range from 5 - 14 days in some recorded cases, so i would be thinking you just had a late implant.

[TTC5]

Oh thanks Cinss this is what I needed to hear!!!!

[Plum3]

Morning, ladies.

Bec- thank you for the encouragement, you are a sweetheart. I am sorry you got AF....you think you may try the injectibles this time? How many months will your doc let you do Clomid? Mine said 6 months, but I only did 3. I know you'll get there, girl.

TTC5- how is your sis? I am so sorry!!!! Good to hear that bean is ok still. xxoo

LBAM- arg on the long cycle....I am sorry, honey. Why do you think there is no way your are pg?

3P1B- so happy Charlie is looking good and almost ready to go! I am so excited for you!!!!!!! And seriously, I saw your belly pic on the grads page and I looked WAY bigger at your stage with both, and I was a size 4-6 to begin with. I think you look great!

SO, I have this burning sensation cramp today (11dpo). Did anyone have that in the 2ww? Makes me think that AF is coming. So kinda bummed today. Yesterday, my boobs felt gigantic and sore, and not as much today. I resisted testing this morning because I am trying to hold out hope that I will get a birthday bfp in the morning, but I'm kinda doubting it now. :sad:

I'm not actually sure how many Clomid cycles he will let me do. I have a script for another x4 months worth so I'll just wait and see what he suggests. 6 is what I have heard as well.

Can't say I have had the burning sensation. Hoping it's a good sign :) Praying for your birthday bfp! Happy Birthday for when you wake up!!

[Plum3]

Hobber, sorry about the temp drop :( I hope it jumps back up again.

5, hopefully you implanted late like Cinss said. Stick little bubba! How's your sis now? When I googled my hcg of 22 (14dpo) I actually found some people who had low levels like mine and that went on to have healthy babies. You had your beta a few days before that so I am sure plenty of people have gone on to have babies, just like you will :)

[Plum3]

Sorry about AF...Hope your plan works next cycle! FX!

Thanks, me too!

Woo, your chart is looking so triphasic at the moment :)

[TTC5]

Hobber, sorry about the temp drop :( I hope it jumps back up again.

5, hopefully you implanted late like Cinss said. Stick little bubba! How's your sis now? When I googled my hcg of 22 (14dpo) I actually found some people who had low levels like mine and that went on to have healthy babies. You had your beta a few days before that so I am sure plenty of people have gone on to have babies, just like you will :)

Did you have another hcg taken after that one?

[soni]

TTC5, hope the bean is well! FX for your little bean.

Hobber, the temp drop sucks. Are you still testing?

Lola, hope you get a beautiful birthday BFP!

So ladies, I tested today - well its still the middle of the night here. At 12dpo with a FRER and BFN :( Now, ill just wait for AF to show up in 2 or 3 days. Such a bummer! I dont know what all of that cramping that I got at 8 and 9dpo was all about. Well maybe, thats a normal thing for me as I am not aware of my cycles.

[Plum3]

Soni, I'm really sorry about the BFN. I had heaps of cramps too which I only get when I am pregnant. Well, that obviously wasn't the case this time.

5, yep I did. It was 3 at 17dpo, I started bleeding that day.

[TTC5]

TTC5, hope the bean is well! FX for your little bean.

Hobber, the temp drop sucks. Are you still testing?

Lola, hope you get a beautiful birthday BFP!

So ladies, I tested today - well its still the middle of the night here. At 12dpo with a FRER and BFN :( Now, ill just wait for AF to show up in 2 or 3 days. Such a bummer! I dont know what all of that cramping that I got at 8 and 9dpo was all about. Well maybe, thats a normal thing for me as I am not aware of my cycles.

I hope AF does not show!

[TTC5]

Soni, I'm really sorry about the BFN. I had heaps of cramps too which I only get when I am pregnant. Well, that obviously wasn't the case this time.

5, yep I did. It was 3 at 17dpo, I started bleeding that day.

I'm sorry for asking you hope it didn't upset you too much :(

[Plum3]

I'm sorry for asking you hope it didn't upset you too much :(

Oh no, it's ok! The day I started bleeding was actually my birthday so that made it worse. I'm fine now though, it obviously wasn't meant to be.

[TTC5]

:'( xx

[love being a mummy]

Sending you lots of sticky vibes hun xx


AFM - AF finally started.

[Hobbermittens]

BFP!!!!! Holy crap, I really can't believe it! It is a faint line, but it is there! My temp went down yesterday but was back up this morning (I was totally expecting AF to show today!), so I tested. Still can't believe it!

[Hobbermittens]

Anyone heard from Lola? Happy birthday Lola, hope you got a birthday BFP!!

Soni, sorry you got a BFN! :(

LBAM, sorry for AF! :(

TTC5, how are you today?

Bec, are you getting ready for your next cycle?

[girlmom]

woo hoo congrats to hobbermittens!! thats great news. so excited for you.

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber - woohoo!! Congrats!!!

Lola - happy birthday love, fx for a bfp!

[Hobbermittens]

Thank you!!

2P1B, it won't let me "like" your post for some reason? But I like it. :)

[3Pink1Blue]

You are so welcome! Come join us on the grads thread!

[Foxy]

Congratulations Hobber!!! FX for a sticky blue bean! :pregnant:

[Foxy]

TTC5 - I hope you get some good # at your next beta, so you can start to relax a little. :hug:

[Foxy]

Lola - Hope you had a great day! We share the same birthday!

[TTC5]

BFP!!!!! Holy crap, I really can't believe it! It is a faint line, but it is there! My temp went down yesterday but was back up this morning (I was totally expecting AF to show today!), so I tested. Still can't believe it!

Congratulations!!!! Told you to stay positive!!!!

[Plum3]

Hobber, woohoo! Congrats on your bfp :D I had a feeling your temp drop was nothing to worry about, really I did!

Lola and Foxy Happy Birthday!!

Yep, I am CD2 today so I am assuming back to Clomid again. Need my doctor to call back and confirm but I'm pretty sure he will want to do Clomid again for at least another month.

[TTC5]

Lola - Hope you had a great day! We share the same birthday!

Happy Birthday!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Hobber, woohoo! Congrats on your bfp :D I had a feeling your temp drop was nothing to worry about, really I did!

Lola and Foxy Happy Birthday!!

Yep, I am CD2 today so I am assuming back to Clomid again. Need my doctor to call back and confirm but I'm pretty sure he will want to do Clomid again for at least another month.

Sending you lots of bfp vibes for this cycle Bec!

[TTC5]

Anyone heard from Lola? Happy birthday Lola, hope you got a birthday BFP!!

Soni, sorry you got a BFN! :(

LBAM, sorry for AF! :(

TTC5, how are you today?

Bec, are you getting ready for your next cycle?

Heaps better thankyou! I re tested late last night sent DH to the shop before they shut at 9pm.. anyway the test line came up right away before the urine hit the control :)

[Plum3]

Thanks 5! I need all those vibes I can get :)

[TTC5]

TTC5 - I hope you get some good # at your next beta, so you can start to relax a little. :hug:

Thankyou so much xx

[Hobbermittens]

Glad to her it, TTC5~ I hope that your BEta on Wed is good too. :)

Bec, I have my fx for you this next cycel!

Foxy, Happy birthday!

[TTC5]

I am thinking of being naughty and going and getting it done first thing tomorrow morning, before my glucose test... I mean why wait till Wednesday my last beta was done over 48 hrs ago now!!

[Hobbermittens]

I am thinking of being naughty and going and getting it done first thing tomorrow morning, before my glucose test... I mean why wait till Wednesday my last beta was done over 48 hrs ago now!!

Do it!!

[Plum3]

Yep, do it 5!

[Princess of Pink]

5 do it!! I wouldn't wait!!

Hobber I just knew it. Massive congrats to your family!! I hope this one is all blue.

Lola hope you have a wonderful birthday and get a twin boy bfp lol

All these bfp's, soon I will be left here all alone. I better get my bfp in march/April and not have to wait around alone for months lol.

[Yahmama]

BFP!!!!! Holy crap, I really can't believe it! It is a faint line, but it is there! My temp went down yesterday but was back up this morning (I was totally expecting AF to show today!), so I tested. Still can't believe it!

Woohooo!!!!! I am SO happy for you!!!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Thank you, everyone!

[skrimpy]

AFM - AF finally started.

((((hugs))))

[skrimpy]

Congrats Hobber!! FX for a H&H 9 months for you!

[skrimpy]

TTC5 they thought my first DD was probably ectopic or that I would miscarry because of my numbers, but she is here today :). I am keeping your little bean in my prayers.

[soni]

Congratulations Hobber! !!! I am so happy for you! I bet it is exciting and thrilling. :running:

TTC 5 Happy thoughts for you!

FX to everyone still waiting to test.

I am just waiting for AF to arrive. Was a little bummed today but now planning the next cycle. Wish AF would just get here!

[Plum3]

POP, I'm beginning to feel like I'll be a bit of a loner in here too ;)

Soni, did you test again today? It's so frustrating waiting for AF to come, you just want things to hurry up!

[My Fabulous Children]

Congratulations Hobber!!! H&H 9 months!

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5~ Thinking of you dear! I so hope you hear some good news soon .

Lola~ Happy birthday dear! Any news?

[My Fabulous Children]

Sending you lots of sticky vibes hun xx


AFM - AF finally started.

I am so sorry to hear that AF showed up for you ((hugs)) I hope you get a bfp on your next cycle, FX!!!

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola - Hope you had a great day! We share the same birthday!

Hey Foxy! So nice to see you around, I miss you :kiss: Happy birthday to you :celebrate:

[My Fabulous Children]

Hobber, woohoo! Congrats on your bfp :D I had a feeling your temp drop was nothing to worry about, really I did!

Lola and Foxy Happy Birthday!!

Yep, I am CD2 today so I am assuming back to Clomid again. Need my doctor to call back and confirm but I'm pretty sure he will want to do Clomid again for at least another month.

Hi Bec, Good luck on the next cycle, hopefully this is the one and you get your bfp.

[My Fabulous Children]

I am thinking of being naughty and going and getting it done first thing tomorrow morning, before my glucose test... I mean why wait till Wednesday my last beta was done over 48 hrs ago now!!

Go head and do it, don't wait till Wednesday!

[TTC5]

TTC5 they thought my first DD was probably ectopic or that I would miscarry because of my numbers, but she is here today :). I am keeping your little bean in my prayers.

What were your numbers do you know?

[Cinss]

Sending you lots of sticky vibes hun xx


AFM - AF finally started.

Sorry about that... next time for sure :fx:

[Cinss]

Hobber - Congratulations !!!

Happy Birthday girls, mine is on Wednesday (popping an egg out then haha)

[TTC5]

Any news on Lola?

[Plum3]

MFC, thankyou! Hope everything is well with you.

I've been wondering about Lola too?

[TTC5]

Hobber - Congratulations !!!

Happy Birthday girls, mine is on Wednesday (popping an egg out then haha)

Oohh FX!

[TTC5]

Woke at 3am and now can't get back to sleep!! Have my 3hr glucose challenge test today and going to get my beta done aswell. FX for me we get good numbers x

[Hobbermittens]

Try to get some rest, TTC5! Hope all the tests come back great. :)

[TTC5]

I am sooo hungry :S

[Hobbermittens]

Can you drink tea?

[Princess of Pink]

Good luck with the tests today 5!!

[TTC5]

I had to fast since 9pm!
Heading off soon and going to do the beta bloods too.

[Plum3]

Good luck 5! Fill us in as soon as you can :)

Still no word on Lola?

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5~ Good luck!

[TTC5]

I'm just waiting 2 hrs now after my drink.. Should get hcg results this afternoon.

[soni]

POP, I'm beginning to feel like I'll be a bit of a loner in here too ;)

Soni, did you test again today? It's so frustrating waiting for AF to come, you just want things to hurry up!

Bec, no I did not test again. Figured I should just save the FRERs for the next cycle. AF is due tomorrow so I wish she would hurry up and just get here.. lol. Then I can start planning the next cycle. This is only our first month TTC so well I should give it some time. DH keeps telling me I should not be so obsessed with this swaying stuff. He is happy with another girl so he refuses to do anything with swaying including giving me his sample to check its ph! :tissue:

[soni]

Good luck TTC!

[TTC5]

I just had a really small amount of spotting, if you would call it that. Not at all blood, more like CM mixed with really old blood as it was like a really light tan colour. I know I got this with the others but ugh it makes you panic. Hopefully is "implantation residue". Only an hr till my beta results come in hopefully. On a good note, my boobs are soooo sore!!!! I only got this with my second pregnancy (a twin pregnancy).

[Cinss]

soni - if you really want to check your DH's PH i'm sure we could come up with a way so he won't even know. There must be times where you have access to the sample, i mean not in a cup?

[Hobbermittens]

Bec, no I did not test again. Figured I should just save the FRERs for the next cycle. AF is due tomorrow so I wish she would hurry up and just get here.. lol. Then I can start planning the next cycle. This is only our first month TTC so well I should give it some time. DH keeps telling me I should not be so obsessed with this swaying stuff. He is happy with another girl so he refuses to do anything with swaying including giving me his sample to check its ph! :tissue:
DTD with a condom and then use the sample in there. Do it fast, because I think the longer it sits out, the higher the pH goes so it could be misleading. I gave my DH a BJ and had him finish in a cup, which he didn't love doing, but he did it.

Is your DH willing to take supps, etc?

[Hobbermittens]

I just had a really small amount of spotting, if you would call it that. Not at all blood, more like CM mixed with really old blood as it was like a really light tan colour. I know I got this with the others but ugh it makes you panic. Hopefully is "implantation residue". Only an hr till my beta results come in hopefully. On a good note, my boobs are soooo sore!!!! I only got this with my second pregnancy (a twin pregnancy).

I hope everything is okay!! Update with your bets results!

[Plum3]

Soni, I would do like the others said to get DH's sample. I sometimes check DH's pH after he has released on my stomach. I test the bit that isn't touching my skin, so the bit on top (if that makes sense!).

5, waiting, waiting! Hopefully the browny CM is nothing to worry about!

[TTC5]

Got my beta results.
So this is how it is going so far:
17 Jan: 3
19 Jan 26
23 Jan 195

Dr said it isn't rising very fast? I worked it out and looks like it is at least doubling every 48hrs? Said it was compatible with a 4week pregnancy. I am 4w5d today. He is now going on about a bloated ovum WTH?!! Ughhhh :(

[Plum3]

It is doubling every 48 hours, which is good!

Could you have possibly O'd later? Maybe you're not as far along as you think?

[TTC5]

I can def tell you when I implanted!!

[Plum3]

You had bad cramps didn't you?

So are you 19dpo now?

[TTC5]

Yep I have the strongest lower back ache for 2 days along with strong cramping it was very perculiar! This happened on Jan 15 & 16 approx 9 & 10 DPO.
I ovulated around CD17.
Tested with a FRER on 11DPO and BFN. Got a V V V V faint BFP 12 DPO. That morning had a beta and was just a 3. My tests are now dark as can be, I have VERY sore boobs now too.

[TTC5]

So today I am only 17DPO at the very most.

[Plum3]

So if you're 17dpo today then you're 4w3d pregnant. The doctor said your levels are at about a 4 week pregnancy. Give or take a few days and you're spot on then aren't you?

[TTC5]

LMP was 21 December 11

[Plum3]

I would go by O date rather than LNMP to calculate how far along you are.

So what's the plan now then? Another beta? How did you go with the GCT?

[TTC5]

Yes he wants to see me Friday for another beta. I will get the glucose results Friday too unless he calls me earlier x

[TTC5]

I would go by O date rather than LNMP to calculate how far along you are.

So what's the plan now then? Another beta? How did you go with the GCT?

So if we say I O'd CD 17 that makes me how far along?

[Kris217]

Yeah it's hard to say exactly how far along and when egg met sperm etc. Even if you did ovulate on a certain day, doesn't mean it met the sperm the same day. Could have been a day or so later. Hurry up scan I say :)

[TTC5]

So found this not sure how accurate it is but I like it lol. If I am only 17dpo today at the very most, then my levels are fine and actually above the average!
Beta HCG Chart : Pregnancy after Infertility (http://boards.babyzone.com/beta-hcg-chart-t3419080.html)

[Plum3]

If you O'd on CD17 that makes you 17dpo today. Those betas seem fine!!

[Cinss]

TTC5 i can't understand why your doctor is being such a douche bag.

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5- I can't understand your DR. either, I think your HCG looks good to me and right now you're about 4wks.

Mine at 19DPO was 303.

[TTC5]

Ugh me either :(
I might start from scratch and see another dr..

[TTC5]

TTC5- I can't understand your DR. either, I think your HCG looks good to me and right now you're about 4wks.

Mine at 19DPO was 303.

This made me feel so much better!!

[Yahmama]

Ugh me either :(
I might start from scratch and see another dr..
Yes, find another dr who knows what hes talking about!

[3Pink1Blue]

yay for the BFP's!!!

Hugs for the BFN's :(

Yeah 5, I'd probably check out a different dr, your's seems so confident this pregnancy is doomed with no real reason he's shared. My feelings are tell the potential bad news or leave me in the dark, but this lets keep testing without giving you the why is just cruel.

[girlmom]

at 17dpo i was at 200 and as of saturday he was fine!

[LolaInLove]

Hey everyone-

Thanks for the birthday love! And HBD to you also, Foxy!

Sorry to not update this weekend. I got really bummed out on Saturday after a bfn. I had to work and there was practically a monsoon outside, so I was just plain pissed all day. Not the best birthday, to say the least. I still haven't had AF (am 14dpo) but I took some progesterone supps this month so I am sure it will be here later today or tomorrow. I feel a bit crampy again. Ah well. Knew I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up!

BUT YAY, HOBBER!!!! I am so excited you got yours this month!!!! Congrats, honey!

And yes, I think we may need to look into IUI. I know they can take like 10 samples and wash and use them all. My DH got really sad about his sperm thing on Saturday.....I told him we need to decide what to do soon, because I feel like we had a good shot this month and obviously, it didn't work. I go back and forth with just trying forever and then taking action. We did talk about him going to a repro urologist once we get our tax return and saving that money for whatever we need to do to fix his balls or do IUI or whatever. I am just scared my eggs will die off before anything happens.

Kris, good luck with your test! How much does IVF cost over there?

TTC5, no more googling! I think you are fine, and no more stressing about it! That brownish d/c was likely just residue like you said. Your bean is probably burrowing down nice and deep in there. I can't believe your doc would start talking blighted ovum to you either, that is ridiculous. Why would you get a newly pg woman all worried like that? There is no way to tell you will have a BO, it just happens. Jeez. Well, FX for another nice beta rise! And sorry boobs is a really good sign things are going nicely.

Bec, here's to another round of Clomid- hope it works for you! I guess docs are all different on how long they'll let you take it. I may need to get on it someday again myself.

Soni, sorry about the bfns. I had the telltale cramps right at the perfect implantation days also....and I normally don't get them either. Guess that's why I got so excited about a miracle month. Better luck for us next month!

LBAM, sorry about Af for you also. At least you are on to your next cycle. FX it is a bit more predictable for ya.

SO, interestingly, I decided to totally waste $15 and do one of those psychic things. Ruby finally got back to me and said I'd have 2 more, 1st one a boy with a bfp Jan 2012 (apparently not) or EDD of Jan 2013. Then a girl with a bfp in April 2014 or EDD of April 2015. She said she confirmed it with the babies three times for accuracy. Well, that is very interesting, no?

[TTC5]

Sorry for the BFN, Lola :( xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, I am so sorry for your BFN :( What kind of tests are you using? Didn't you say that you used those IC ones--the Wondfo ones that come with the OPKs? I used a FRER and got a faint line on Saturday, but I used one of those Wondfo ones too, and it was negative. I did one this morning just to see if it worked yet, and it was such a light line I had to hold it right under a light to even see it. I think those Wondfo tests aren't very sensitive. Since AF isn't here yet, maybe you shouldn't give up yet! Maybe Ruby was right!!

[Hobbermittens]

And sorry boobs is a really good sign things are going nicely.


Things are going great for us--with our sorry boobs and the craps!:rofl:

[Princess of Pink]

I'm so sorry for your bfn Lola!! :hug2: Are you sure that you are totally out?

I got a reading from Ruby too...she said boy conceived Jan 2012 or born Jan 2013.

[LolaInLove]

Lola, I am so sorry for your BFN :( What kind of tests are you using? Didn't you say that you used those IC ones--the Wondfo ones that come with the OPKs? I used a FRER and got a faint line on Saturday, but I used one of those Wondfo ones too, and it was negative. I did one this morning just to see if it worked yet, and it was such a light line I had to hold it right under a light to even see it. I think those Wondfo tests aren't very sensitive. Since AF isn't here yet, maybe you shouldn't give up yet! Maybe Ruby was right!!

I am intrigued now......ok, if no AF by the time I leave work today, am going to get some and will test in the morning. I would be SHOCKED if I was and Ruby was indeed right. I really think AF is coming though. I am a bit crampy....just that burning feeling, not really cramps.

[LolaInLove]

Things are going great for us--with our sorry boobs and the craps!:rofl:

LMAO!!! I didn't even catch that typo! Well, my boobs ARE sorry after nursing two kids, LOL! I am sure we can all relate.

[LolaInLove]

I'm so sorry for your bfn Lola!! :hug2: Are you sure that you are totally out?

I got a reading from Ruby too...she said boy conceived Jan 2012 or born Jan 2013.

Thanks, POP. I feel like I am, but heck, I will entertain myself with a FRER in the morning just for kicks. That is kinda strange that we both got the same reading. Maybe she was "talking" to the same baby still, LOL.

[Princess of Pink]

That is kinda strange that we both got the same reading. Maybe she was "talking" to the same baby still, LOL.

Or maybe she just pulls a reading out of a hat and we were lucky enough to get the same one!!! lol

[LolaInLove]

Or maybe she just pulls a reading out of a hat and we were lucky enough to get the same one!!! lol

I bet she had a crystal ball like the one on my iphone. (I'm horrible, sorry. She was very nice!)

[Princess of Pink]

A magic 8 ball that she shakes lol....I wish it would come true though for both of us!! Maybe we will both conceive boys in April!!

[LolaInLove]

I just opened my Crystal Ball app on my phone just for fun and asked it "Am I pregnant?" and the answer was DEFINITELY. I almost dropped my phone, LOL. But in all seriousness, I'm not crampy, but I have this burning feeling in my uterus....if you guys kwim.....it's probably AF on the way.

[Princess of Pink]

Someone else said they had burning....and got a bfp...god knows which thread I was reading but it was recently!! I will keep my fingers crossed for you!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Girlmom - HE was ok, when did you find out, how did I miss this? Super congrats on your baby BOY!!!

Lola - Sorry for the birthday bfn I got one last year and 2 months later it was a BFP! Oh and you know better then to get too upset before the red b*tch arrives!
You think your boobs are sorry, 3 babies X nursing at least 12 months each = droopy old lady boobs on 33 yr old body. So sad lol

[TTC5]

I just opened my Crystal Ball app on my phone just for fun and asked it "Am I pregnant?" and the answer was DEFINITELY. I almost dropped my phone, LOL. But in all seriousness, I'm not crampy, but I have this burning feeling in my uterus....if you guys kwim.....it's probably AF on the way.

Ohhhh how freaky hehe

[TTC5]

I am intrigued now......ok, if no AF by the time I leave work today, am going to get some and will test in the morning. I would be SHOCKED if I was and Ruby was indeed right. I really think AF is coming though. I am a bit crampy....just that burning feeling, not really cramps.

I feel like AF is coming too! Have done since like 7/8 dpo lol

[TTC5]

Thanks, POP. I feel like I am, but heck, I will entertain myself with a FRER in the morning just for kicks. That is kinda strange that we both got the same reading. Maybe she was "talking" to the same baby still, LOL.

She said the same for me too...

[Princess of Pink]

I am going to get the crystal ball app for my iPhone...obsessed much? LOL

[Yahmama]

You think your boobs are sorry, 3 babies X nursing at least 12 months each = droopy old lady boobs on 33 yr old body. So sad lol

I was just thinking the same thing! I nursed all 3 of my babies at least 1 year each and I have pathetic little tiny remnants of boobs that just dangle! Even though I've always been on the small side (B cup) at least they used to be cute and perky! I was considering getting some falsies or something!

[Yahmama]

I just opened my Crystal Ball app on my phone just for fun and asked it "Am I pregnant?" and the answer was DEFINITELY. I almost dropped my phone, LOL. But in all seriousness, I'm not crampy, but I have this burning feeling in my uterus....if you guys kwim.....it's probably AF on the way.

Have you felt this burning before? I've never had that...I bet you're preggers ;) After all, the crystal ball said so, right?!?! :)

[TTC5]

I have sorry boobs too although they have gone up a size already, are leaking and are soooo sore!!!???? And I am not even 5weeks yet !

[Yahmama]

at 17dpo i was at 200 and as of saturday he was fine!

Wow, I just realized you said "He!" Congrats!!!!! When did you find out?

[Princess of Pink]

I just downloaded the 'Baby Gender' app for my iPhone. It says I have to TTC in Jan, Feb or May to have a boy!! LOL

I don't like the crystal ball...."Will I fall pregnant in April" ..... YES
"Will I have a girl?" ....... IT IS CERTAIN
"Will I have a boy?" ........ NOT LIKELY

ROFL....it hates me!!

[skrimpy]

I am about to go to bed so no time to chat, but you girls with your eight ball apps are cracking me up :p

[3Pink1Blue]

Yahmama - it's crazy how much respect you have for a good bra after babies. I'll pay out the nose for a bra that keeps my boobs from sliding out of the cups when I bend over. Wow that's a pretty picture lol
Glad I wasn't the only one that missed the "he" announcement!

5- I had that happen with one of mine, huge boobs like day 1!

Pop - step away from the app store lol I downloaded everything free too and they were 50/50 for my guy!

[soni]

DTD with a condom and then use the sample in there. Do it fast, because I think the longer it sits out, the higher the pH goes so it could be misleading. I gave my DH a BJ and had him finish in a cup, which he didn't love doing, but he did it.

Is your DH willing to take supps, etc?
No hobber, he is not willing to take supps :(

[TTC5]

No hobber, he is not willing to take supps :(

Don't worry too much as plenty of boys are conceived with variable ph's ;)

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola~ I'm so very sorry dear :(

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5~ did you sway at all or you dropped everything? Just wondering :)

[TTC5]

Dropped everything :) Only thing going for me would be weight gain as opposed to being stick thin with the girls and possibly lingering salt levels, potassium levels and minerals and vitamins from swaying before hand (we stopped a few weeks prior to falling preg). Oh and we DTD daily right around O!!! And used pre seed!! With my girls I had no EWCM and didn't use anything to help either.

[Plum3]

Lola, so sorry about the bfn. It sucks getting one but it's even worse when you're waiting for AF, knowing you're not pregnant. So are you leaning more towards doing IUI? I'm not very familiar with it, is it very successful with low sperm count? My friend who is just starting her IVF cycle in a few weeks got told that IUI wouldn't work for her and her husband (they have male factor too). I hope Ruby is right! I'm onto downloading the crystal ball app too.

Yahmama, you just described my boobs. How terribly sad for us!

5, I can't wait til my boobs get bigger again. I can live in denial for at least 9 months.

POP, stupid crystal ball, total rubbish.

So, spoke to my doctor today. Seems like I may have had another chemical pregnancy last cycle. My bloods on 13dpo showed a hcg of 4 and I started spotting that day. I did a FRER on 12dpo and got what I thought was an evap line, now I know it was for real. At least I didn't really know this time and didn't get my hopes up. Anyway... we're going to do another two Clomid cycles and if no bfp then move onto injections.

[TTC5]

Oh Bec!!! :(
How is your progesterone like, maybe you need some of that? xx

[Princess of Pink]

Oh Bec I am so sorry!! Sending you lots of sticky BFP vibes for next cycle!! Can't send you any blue dust as obviously I don't have any lol....nor will I in the future according to the crystal ball ;)

[Plum3]

Thanks girls xx

I have had my progesterone checked both times and my doctor never said anything so I can only assume it is ok. He is pretty thorough so I'm not concerned that it might be low.

[Hobbermittens]

Bec, I'm sorry! :( I hope the doctor can find something that works for you next cycle!

[LolaInLove]

I am going to get the crystal ball app for my iPhone...obsessed much? LOL

Oh, it's so much fun! Whenever I don't have an answer for something, I ask THE BALL and repeat whatever it says. I'm annoying like that IRL. (:

[LolaInLove]

She said the same for me too...

WHAT? Ok, it's a stock reply. I swear, her "reading" contained proper grammar and spelling, but her other emails were like my 6 year old texting me.

[LolaInLove]

Lola - Sorry for the birthday bfn I got one last year and 2 months later it was a BFP!
You think your boobs are sorry, 3 babies X nursing at least 12 months each = droopy old lady boobs on 33 yr old body. So sad lol

I remember that!!! And look, Mr. Charlie is on his way. Hope I get lucky also! And boobs- OMG. I hate getting on top, ykwim, because when I'm leaning over, I feel like I look like a freakin' cow with udders hanging down.

[LolaInLove]

No hobber, he is not willing to take supps :( Don't worry about it.....most of them don't.....just feed him well and worry more about making sure he doesn't hold sperm in for more than like 3-4 days ever.

[LolaInLove]

I don't like the crystal ball...."Will I fall pregnant in April" ..... YES
"Will I have a girl?" ....... IT IS CERTAIN
"Will I have a boy?" ........ NOT LIKELY



Apparently my next child will be a catfish, so it hates me too.

[purplepoet20]

if you ask the same question in a row you will get a yes the second time.

[LolaInLove]

Lola, so sorry about the bfn. It sucks getting one but it's even worse when you're waiting for AF, knowing you're not pregnant. So are you leaning more towards doing IUI? I'm not very familiar with it, is it very successful with low sperm count? My friend who is just starting her IVF cycle in a few weeks got told that IUI wouldn't work for her and her husband (they have male factor too). I hope Ruby is right! I'm onto downloading the crystal ball app too.





So, spoke to my doctor today. Seems like I may have had another chemical pregnancy last cycle. My bloods on 13dpo showed a hcg of 4 and I started spotting that day. I did a FRER on 12dpo and got what I thought was an evap line, now I know it was for real. At least I didn't really know this time and didn't get my hopes up. Anyway... we're going to do another two Clomid cycles and if no bfp then move onto injections.

Bec, I'm SO sorry about the cycle/chemical! I think it's a good idea to think about switching it up soon. It is best to not know sometimes, I am with you on that.

I have read online that you can't do IUI with a count like my DH's. We could maybe try to combine a bunch of frozen samples. I just know that it is way, way cheaper than IVF, although it's more of a gamble for success.

I am just at a loss....I cannot believe that we have conceived 3 times before, and now nothing????? I have to think that his sperm levels fluctuate or something. I just can't figure it out. I am making an appt with a reproductive urologist for him and biting the bullet- we need to figure out what is wrong. I am not sure just trying and trying until my eggs are gone is a good plan for my psyche anymore.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks girls xx

I have had my progesterone checked both times and my doctor never said anything so I can only assume it is ok. He is pretty thorough so I'm not concerned that it might be low.

I figured he'd have you on prog supplements if you needed them. Have you ever been tested for clotting disorders?

[Hobbermittens]

Bec, I'm SO sorry about the cycle/chemical! I think it's a good idea to think about switching it up soon. It is best to not know sometimes, I am with you on that.

I have read online that you can't do IUI with a count like my DH's. We could maybe try to combine a bunch of frozen samples. I just know that it is way, way cheaper than IVF, although it's more of a gamble for success.

I am just at a loss....I cannot believe that we have conceived 3 times before, and now nothing????? I have to think that his sperm levels fluctuate or something. I just can't figure it out. I am making an appt with a reproductive urologist for him and biting the bullet- we need to figure out what is wrong. I am not sure just trying and trying until my eggs are gone is a good plan for my psyche anymore.

So no BFP again? :( I was hoping it was just the Wondfos. I'm sorry, Lola. I was really thinking you'd get one this month!

I think you are making the right move by going to the Dr. about your DH. I hope they have some answers and solutions. And I definitely think if nothing else, you should do IVF.

[LolaInLove]

Yea, nothing. We can't afford IVF, so hopefully the doc will have some answers. I just can't figure out WHY he has gotten me pg before and now nothing!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Yea, nothing. We can't afford IVF, so hopefully the doc will have some answers. I just can't figure out WHY he has gotten me pg before and now nothing!!!

I thought you said IVF was only $1000? Not that that is just a minuscule amount, but in the medical world, it seems pretty affordable. But I know we don't ever have $1000 laying around, so I know it might be hard to come up with. Can you get a loan from family?

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies,

Today my appointment was lovely I heard the heartbeat for the first time!

AND my NT scan is scheduled for Jan 31. I'll be 13W6D but that's according to my O day ..And according to my Dr, 13W1D ..I'm confused, Should I change my appointment (Early) or leave it?

What do you ladies think?

[Plum3]

Bec, I'm sorry! :( I hope the doctor can find something that works for you next cycle!

Thanks Hobber. I hope so too! Hopefully it was just one of those things and doesn't keep happening.

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola, so sorry about the bfn. It sucks getting one but it's even worse when you're waiting for AF, knowing you're not pregnant. So are you leaning more towards doing IUI? I'm not very familiar with it, is it very successful with low sperm count? My friend who is just starting her IVF cycle in a few weeks got told that IUI wouldn't work for her and her husband (they have male factor too). I hope Ruby is right! I'm onto downloading the crystal ball app too.

Yahmama, you just described my boobs. How terribly sad for us!

5, I can't wait til my boobs get bigger again. I can live in denial for at least 9 months.

POP, stupid crystal ball, total rubbish.

So, spoke to my doctor today. Seems like I may have had another chemical pregnancy last cycle. My bloods on 13dpo showed a hcg of 4 and I started spotting that day. I did a FRER on 12dpo and got what I thought was an evap line, now I know it was for real. At least I didn't really know this time and didn't get my hopes up. Anyway... we're going to do another two Clomid cycles and if no bfp then move onto injections.

OH Bec I'm so very sorry dear :( Sending you a lot of sticky vibes THIS cycle!

[Plum3]

Lola, thanks :) Hopefully I won't need to do anything but Clomid but at least I know we'll move on if nothing comes of it. I've never been tested for clotting disorders, no one has ever mentioned it to me.

That's reassuring about the IUI. I agree, it is bizarre that you have conceived before with DH and now nothing. I think that sounds like a great plan to see a urologist, you don't want to keep waiting and waiting without knowing.

[Plum3]

Hi ladies,

Today my appointment was lovely I heard the heartbeat for the first time!

AND my NT scan is scheduled for Jan 31. I'll be 13W6D but that's according to my O day ..And according to my Dr, 13W1D ..I'm confused, Should I change my appointment (Early) or leave it?

What do you ladies think?

Yay! I'm glad everything went well :) That sound is wonderful isn't it?

If you definitely know when you O'd then I would probably make the scan a bit earlier. Isn't the NT scan more accurate when it's done between 12-13 weeks?

[Plum3]

OH Bec I'm so very sorry dear :( Sending you a lot of sticky vibes THIS cycle!

Thankyou! I'll take all those sticky vibes.

[Cinss]

Hi ladies,

Today my appointment was lovely I heard the heartbeat for the first time!

AND my NT scan is scheduled for Jan 31. I'll be 13W6D but that's according to my O day ..And according to my Dr, 13W1D ..I'm confused, Should I change my appointment (Early) or leave it?

What do you ladies think?

That is a bit confusing, i thought they count the days from the start of your last period?

[My Fabulous Children]

Yay! I'm glad everything went well :) That sound is wonderful isn't it?

If you definitely know when you O'd then I would probably make the scan a bit earlier. Isn't the NT scan more accurate when it's done between 12-13 weeks?

I called to change the appt, They have nothing available this week. They moved it one day earlier, lol.

I think anything between 12 and 14 weeks.

[My Fabulous Children]

That is a bit confusing, i thought they count the days from the start of your last period?

I have no idea I'm so confused.

[Hobbermittens]

I went to the dr. today to have my thyroid checked--I only have 1/2 my thyroid due to a lump they found last pregnancy that was precancerous. So I wanted to make sure things were okay now. They took some blood and I guess I will hear back tomorrow. I wasn't really eager to tell the dr. about TTC, especially after the nurse asked if my pregnancy was "a good thing"--she meant it in the nicest possible way; I think she was worried about me having an unplanned pregnancy after 3 kids--so I just told them we weren't preventing. My dr. was pretty funny about it, but supportive. He is the same doctor I have had through all my pregnancies, and he is my kids' doctor too. I said I wanted to get a CVS, so he said he'd call the special doctor that he thinks does them in our area. I may have to drive 2.5 hrs away to get one if the guy around here doesn't do them.

[My Fabulous Children]

So on Monday I will be 13weeks by my OB or 13w5d by my Ovulation day ..Either way I think its good time for nub shot? BUT I am so SCARED! :worry:

[Cinss]

So on Monday I will be 13weeks by my OB or 13w5d by my Ovulation day ..Either way I think its good time for nub shot? BUT I am so SCARED! :worry:

YAY we LOVE nub shots !!!

[TTC5]

So on Monday I will be 13weeks by my OB or 13w5d by my Ovulation day ..Either way I think its good time for nub shot? BUT I am so SCARED! :worry:

Yayyy!!

[girlmom]

3pink1blue- yes im am offically team BLUE!! sorry this thread moves so fast i missed 1 day and your post was 5 or 6 pages ago. i went saturady for an elective scan, i couldn't wait any longer. and no he wasn't shy at all. the thing is, im terrified now. i mean i gave up. 10 years of swaying blue and i got 7 girls. the one time i give up and just do a girl sway and i got a boy. girls are a comfort thing for me i think, i know how to raise a girl. i have no idea what to do with a boy.. what if i screw him up? what if he hates all this girl stuff? what if he hates having 5 sisters who boss him around?
so don't give up ladies i mean if i can get a boy after a girl sway and 7 girls in a row... anyone can get a boy.

[TTC5]

Your little boy is going to be sooo doted on!

[3Pink1Blue]

Girlmom- I so get this. I'm worried about having a boy as well for the same reasons and it doesn't help that when people learn I have three girls and soon a boy they all say "oh that poor little guy". Dh has brothers and I have a sister, will he be lonely with just sisters who have each other? Will the girls be annoyed with the little brother since all they know are sisters? DD1 loves to bath and change babies but she's reluctant to change a boy. I know I'll feel differently in a few weeks but right now there's a bit of that comfort zone panic going on.

[soni]

Don't worry about it.....most of them don't.....just feed him well and worry more about making sure he doesn't hold sperm in for more than like 3-4 days ever.

Lol.. Lola its more like I need to make sure he doesnt do a FR in the shower everyday!

[Princess of Pink]

Soni just sit in there and watch him lol

[girlmom]

exactly 3pick. thats what i mean. all these girls have each other. who will my little guy have. and i get the same thing, wow you have 5 daughters, i feel bad for this poor boy. it probably doesn't help my dd6 is only 7 months old huh? im still in girl mode with her while trying my hardest to get into boy mode with the next.

[TTC5]

So just for fun had a reading (online) was only $5.00 and she said I am having twin girls and they will come early September under the Virgo sign.

[3Pink1Blue]

Girlmom - I've taken to stoping women in stores with 3 girls and then a boy to ask them how it is. So far they all say it's different but great. We'll get in the groove and they'll be great little men :)

[My Fabulous Children]

YAY we LOVE nub shots !!!

Cinss I love nub shots too, but not for me, lol. I'm just scared.

Are you getting ready to ovulate?

[Princess of Pink]

5 - that would be my luck...I would have twin girls!!

[Hobbermittens]

Lol.. Lola its more like I need to make sure he doesnt do a FR in the shower everyday!

Oh Soni that is MY DH!!! Mine gets up early and releases EVERY DAY. When TTC, I had to get up early every day (like 5 am!!) to make sure he kept his hands off! It was really annoying. :sigh:

[TTC5]

So just for fun had a reading (online) was only $5.00 and she said I am having twin girls and they will come early September under the Virgo sign.

MM well this this person is a scam.. she also said: Two girls and a boy three children in total I feel the boy will be the youngest all within 7 years from today
and then went on to say i would be taking time off work for 5 years which is def not true.

[Princess of Pink]

Maybe it's twin boys!! Or triplets, 2 girls 1 boy!

[Cinss]

Cinss I love nub shots too, but not for me, lol. I'm just scared.

Are you getting ready to ovulate?

Yes i am thinking i will O on the 28th, that is my DD's birthday so kinda cool :) Still very - OPKs

[Cinss]

MM well this this person is a scam.. she also said: Two girls and a boy three children in total I feel the boy will be the youngest all within 7 years from today
and then went on to say i would be taking time off work for 5 years which is def not true.

Thats a bummer, oh well 5 bucks isn't much. And yes there will definatly be scammers out there.

[TTC5]

Maybe it's twin boys!! Or triplets, 2 girls 1 boy!

Oh gosh don't say that LOL

Talking of twins.. noone has had a set yet in our little group?

[Princess of Pink]

Talking of twins.. noone has had a set yet in our little group?

And you my dear can be the first!! ;)

[TTC5]

Oh gosh!!

[Plum3]

That is a bit confusing, i thought they count the days from the start of your last period?

Generally they do, but it is quite silly because not everyone ovulates on day 14.

[Plum3]

I called to change the appt, They have nothing available this week. They moved it one day earlier, lol.

I think anything between 12 and 14 weeks.

Oh ok, you will be spot on then. And perfect for a nub shot ;)

[Plum3]

Hobber, hopefully everything is ok with your thyroid. Let us know.

Girlmom, you will not screw this boy up! He will be loved by so many and will have so many people looking out for him.

5, really? Twin girls! Just imagine!

I have a scan booked for Monday to check my follicles, I'm secretly hoping for twins so the more follicles the better :)

[TTC5]

Nah she is full of it, I told her it made no sense and I already have girls now she is saying oh yes I see them now and the next is a boy LOL

[TTC5]

Hobber, hopefully everything is ok with your thyroid. Let us know.

Girlmom, you will not screw this boy up! He will be loved by so many and will have so many people looking out for him.

5, really? Twin girls! Just imagine!

I have a scan booked for Monday to check my follicles, I'm secretly hoping for twins so the more follicles the better :)



I hope you have some good follis there!!

[Plum3]

They just tell us what we want to hear! If only hey :) I have a feeling this one will be a boy for you 5!

[Plum3]

Is anyone doing weights? I'm doing them 2-3 times a week. I've just started doing more lunges and squats because I'm sick of this flabby butt.

[skrimpy]

Bec we aren't TTC for awhile but I'm doing weights (no powerlifting or anything though). Also been doing a lot of squats and overall toning. I want to look good by summer :)

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - omg I can't even imagine twins!

Bec - fx for lots of follicles, maybe you can be the first of us with twins!

Skrimpy - good for you, at least one of us will look hot this summer :wink:

[Hobbermittens]

Hey, all of you farther along, when do these "craps" let up? This being my 4th pregnancy, you'd think I'd remember, but I don't! I remember having them but not how many weeks, etc.

[TTC5]

Hey, all of you farther along, when do these "craps" let up? This being my 4th pregnancy, you'd think I'd remember, but I don't! I remember having them but not how many weeks, etc.

I'm 5 weeks and still having the occasional ache/cramp!

[Princess of Pink]

With baby #4 & 5 the braxton hicks then started at about 6 weeks for me!

[Hobbermittens]

With baby #4 & 5 the braxton hicks then started at about 6 weeks for me!

I had them starting at 12 weeks last time, and each pregnancy they have started sooner. My Dr didn't even believe me that it happened at 12 weeks! I expect they will start sooner this time, too.

[TTC5]

So woke up this morning and noticed I have a mumma pouch already and am only 5 weeks?!!!! The baby is only the size of a small pea how can this be possible ladies?!!! I got to at least 8 weeks last time without getting this little poochy thing happening lol

[Princess of Pink]

I don't think mine ever went away after #5!!

[Plum3]

Bec we aren't TTC for awhile but I'm doing weights (no powerlifting or anything though). Also been doing a lot of squats and overall toning. I want to look good by summer :)

Well I was looking good until I started this HE diet. Naturally I have put the weight on around my bum and stomach. I've decided to start doing some cardio to get rid of the fat but I'm still going to ear the same amount of calories. Hopefully that will just make me shed the fat but keep the muscle I've put on.

[Plum3]

So woke up this morning and noticed I have a mumma pouch already and am only 5 weeks?!!!! The baby is only the size of a small pea how can this be possible ladies?!!! I got to at least 8 weeks last time without getting this little poochy thing happening lol

Maybe it's the uterus making room and all the extra blood supply to the area?

[soni]

Oh Soni that is MY DH!!! Mine gets up early and releases EVERY DAY. When TTC, I had to get up early every day (like 5 am!!) to make sure he kept his hands off! It was really annoying. :sigh:

Hobber, that is so funny!:rofl:

[soni]

Bec, good luck with the test!

[soni]

So, ladies AF arrived today. I figured I usually have a 29 day cycle but this time it was 31 days. Could it be because of the supplements? I took EPO, flaxseed oil and folic acid from AF to O.

[TTC5]

Bummer Soni :( FX this cycle!

[Plum3]

Sorry about AF Soni :( It seems that alot of blue swayers have their LP lengthened so maybe it is something to do with the supps.

[Hobbermittens]

So, ladies AF arrived today. I figured I usually have a 29 day cycle but this time it was 31 days. Could it be because of the supplements? I took EPO, flaxseed oil and folic acid from AF to O.

My last cycle before conceiving was longer than usual, too. I wondered if maybe I O'ed later than I thought? I didn't have a chemical or anything because I never got a positive test. I was taking EPO the whole month.

[TTC5]

Off for another beta today and to get my diabete results FX all is ok! Going to ask about a dating scan too.

[Hobbermittens]

Update us when you get back, TTC5!! Hope all goes well!

[TTC5]

Will do! Went to see my sister yesterday and she knows I am preg now but she says to me "OMG your boobs are huge" so it's not just in my head LOL They are sooo sore, I take my bra off and they feel like they are engorged already!!

[Princess of Pink]

Good luck with your beta today 5. Fingers crossed it's nice and high now so no more stressing!!

[My Fabulous Children]

Soni~ Sorry AF showed.

TTC5~ Hope all goes well, Good luck!

[Cinss]

So, ladies AF arrived today. I figured I usually have a 29 day cycle but this time it was 31 days. Could it be because of the supplements? I took EPO, flaxseed oil and folic acid from AF to O.

Bummer soni... Yes i think EPO is the culprit here, i dropped it from my sway because my cycles have been all over the place.

TTC5 goodluck today.

[TTC5]

Had a scan and could only just see a small sac with internal scan. Nothing could be seen inside it yet, and sac measured 4w 1d but my LMP puts me at 5w2d?

Ok so help me here ladies these are my numbers etc.
17th Jan BFP & Beta of 3. (going by scan today this put me at only 2w 5d)
19th Jan beta was 26. (going by scan 3w)
23rd Jan beta 195 (going by scan 3w 4 d)

Had another beta today will update this afternoon. Scan today put me at 4w 1d.
LMP 21st December.

So initially the dr said my numbers were too low (prior to the scan today) but after googling it seems my numbers are actually very high???

Confusing much!!!????

[Plum3]

So if you're 4w1d today does that mean you O'd on the 12th Jan? You got a BFP on 17th Jan so surely it wouldn't show up then if you were only 5dpo.

Maybe the dating scan is a little off?

Hopefully you have a nice beta rise :)

[Cinss]

no wait still working it out

[Plum3]

Deleted reply to Cinss deleted post :P

[My Fabulous Children]

So if you're 4w1d today does that mean you O'd on the 12th Jan? You got a BFP on 17th Jan so surely it wouldn't show up then if you were only 5dpo.

Maybe the dating scan is a little off?

Hopefully you have a nice beta rise :)

I agree with Bec ...I hope you have a nice beta rise.

[Hobbermittens]

Had a scan and could only just see a small sac with internal scan. Nothing could be seen inside it yet, and sac measured 4w 1d but my LMP puts me at 5w2d?

Ok so help me here ladies these are my numbers etc.
17th Jan BFP & Beta of 3. (going by scan today this put me at only 2w 5d)
19th Jan beta was 26. (going by scan 3w)
23rd Jan beta 195 (going by scan 3w 4 d)

Had another beta today will update this afternoon. Scan today put me at 4w 1d.
LMP 21st December.

So initially the dr said my numbers were too low (prior to the scan today) but after googling it seems my numbers are actually very high???

Confusing much!!!????

I am totally confused! I hope your betas are good. FX!

[TTC5]

So if you're 4w1d today does that mean you O'd on the 12th Jan? You got a BFP on 17th Jan so surely it wouldn't show up then if you were only 5dpo.

Maybe the dating scan is a little off?

Hopefully you have a nice beta rise :)

That is what confuses me?

[Cinss]

TTC5 how long was your LMP? I am finding it hard to get my head around it, but i think you would have O'd around the 5th, then got your BFP at 12DPO (17th Jan) so implantation occured anywhere from the 6th to the 16th, so lets say it was the 6th, then the measurement should be 3 weeks, which it is out obviously, so if we throw on 2 more weeks from LMP the measurement should be 5 weeks but that is out too, your measurement is in the middle of them both so i dont know, maybe it is a tad bigger or smaller than the average at the moment.

[TTC5]

I thought when they did scans they measured gestational age? If implantation was on the 29th Dec, that would mean 5 would be 6w1d doesn't it? Implantation is when O is, give or take a day. I'm confused now!

I didn't ovulate till January, LMP was 21st December.

[Plum3]

I didn't ovulate till January, LMP was 21st December.

This reply was for Cinss, sorry to confuse! I think she has deleted her post though.

[Cinss]

The only other explination i can come up with is that you O'd super early on the 29th (CD9?) and implanted right away, then got your BFP on 19DPO (hmm not very likely), but then you would measure exactly 4w1d.

[Cinss]

This reply was for Cinss, sorry to confuse! I think she has deleted her post though.

Yep sorry i totally confused myself and had to word it better.

[Plum3]

TTC5 how long was your LMP? I am finding it hard to get my head around it, but i think you would have O'd around the 5th, then got your BFP at 12DPO (17th Jan) so implantation occured anywhere from the 6th to the 16th, so lets say it was the 6th, then the measurement should be 3 weeks, which it is out obviously, so if we throw on 2 more weeks from LMP the measurement should be 5 weeks but that is out too, your measurement is in the middle of them both so i dont know, maybe it is a tad bigger or smaller than the average at the moment.

I would think that when they said 4w1d they were referring to measurements according to assumed LMP.

I didn't think they did measurements according to conception age?

[TTC5]

The only other explination i can come up with is that you O'd super early on the 29th (CD9?) and implanted right away, then got your BFP on 19DPO (hmm not very likely), but then you would measure exactly 4w1d.

That wouldn't be right though doesn't work.

[TTC5]

I would think that when they said 4w1d they were referring to measurements according to assumed LMP.

I didn't think they did measurements according to conception age?

She did ask when my LMP was and I told her 21 Dec which should put me at 5w 2 day but when she measured on ultrasound the screen showed up 4w 1d.

[Plum3]

The only other explination i can come up with is that you O'd super early on the 29th (CD9?) and implanted right away, then got your BFP on 19DPO (hmm not very likely), but then you would measure exactly 4w1d.

That would mean she would be 6w1d then if conception occurred on the 29th.

[TTC5]

Very confusing hey! All I can think of, is that the embryo is just not growing?? I don't know :(

[TTC5]

That would mean she would be 6w1d then if conception occurred on the 29th.

Yeah I am def not that.

[Plum3]

She did ask when my LMP was and I told her 21 Dec which should put me at 5w 2 day but when she measured on ultrasound the screen showed up 4w 1d.

They always go on the assumption of a regular 28 day cycle which is so silly because not everyone O's on CD14.

[Plum3]

When do you get your results?

Maybe the dates are a little off, try not worry. I know, easier said than done.

[TTC5]

When do you get your results?

Maybe the dates are a little off, try not worry. I know, easier said than done.

beta should be in this afternoon and dr should hopefully ring me then.

[TTC5]

They always go on the assumption of a regular 28 day cycle which is so silly because not everyone O's on CD14.

So the machines take lmp in to consideration do they?

[Cinss]

So gestational age is 5w2d and fetal age is 4w1d, usually fetal age is 2 weeks less than gestational age, so your measurement should have been 3w2d, so i think it is growing just fine, actually growing great.

[TTC5]

No there was only a Gestational Sac found measuring 4w 1d. Nothing else, no yolk or anything. Just a very very small looking sac.

[jazzers]

Very confusing hey! All I can think of, is that the embryo is just not growing?? I don't know :(

Hey! I hope I'm not butting in here.... this thread just peaked my interest because I went through this same thing with our youngest son :)

TTC5 - I had the exact same thing happen with our youngest son. Ultrasound measurements were off. I had about 8 ultrasounds in the first trimester as result of that and bleeding. I had one that said I was due March 5th, then another one a week later saying I was due March 17th, and therefore had me thinking the embryo hadn't grown, etc. My midwife however, explained to me (in all my panic and confusion!) that these ultrasounds are not an exact science. At that early stage, they are measuring something the size of a grain of rice - they measure in mm. So, if at 5 weeks the baby should be 4mm, and at 6 weeks the baby should be 8mm, you have to take into account the fact that the little cursor on the ultrasound (they put a cursor at each end of the embryo to measure it) is a mm thick itself, which can make it up to 2mm off in either direction. Also, if the embryo isn't facing perfectly lengthwise, they could be taking a slight cross section, which woud be smaller than if they were able to measure perfectly from head to toe. Does that make sense? I hope it helps ease your fear..... I remember being such an emotional disaster for weeks thinking the baby wasn't growing and I was going to miscarry. He's great now though, and turns 1 next month ;) Good luck :)