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KraizyDaizy

March 23rd, 2012, 11:09 AM

Seriously?!? Yes call her,i hope she can at least have an explanation for it ?,or you can convince her:)strange ,i just checked mine they came in a box 50mg 24 pills...

I am in the US, so not sure if that's why or not but I only get 5 pills each month and i have to call in to get it prescribed and sent to my pharmacy. I then have to call for my 21-day progesterone blood work or she will not prescribe it to me. I wish there was some other way to get it grrrhhhh!!! Her nurse is only there till noon but I left her another voice-mail so hopefully I will hear something today.

Oh, just looked at your chart! Nice temp rise you got going!!!

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM

Kraisy- I'm in USA and I am on 50mg for cd 3-7, I get 10 pills and take 2 a day. For a total of 50mg a day.

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 11:37 AM

PFP glad to hear your temp is rising!!!

KraizyDaizy

March 23rd, 2012, 12:28 PM

Kraisy- I'm in USA and I am on 50mg for cd 3-7, I get 10 pills and take 2 a day. For a total of 50mg a day.

So basically you take 100mg a day taking two 50mg pills and I am just getting five pills for days 5-9 with 50mg per day grrrrrhhhh! I am thinking she is worried about multiples, but if she would call me I could tell her I am totally okay with it LOL!!!!

sweetsister

March 23rd, 2012, 12:45 PM

So basically you take 100mg a day taking two 50mg pills and I am just getting five pills for days 5-9 with 50mg per day grrrrrhhhh! I am thinking she is worried about multiples, but if she would call me I could tell her I am totally okay with it LOL!!!!

Yes i was going to say that same thing ,just tell her you aren't afraid of multiples,maybe thats why?

KraizyDaizy

March 23rd, 2012, 01:20 PM

Yes i was going to say that same thing ,just tell her you aren't afraid of multiples,maybe thats why?

Well my docs nurse which is not my normal one called to tell me that my doc said my levels were good and she did not want to put me on anything higher. I did not even try to tell her I was okay with multiples, because you could tell from her voice it was not happening. She did tell me I could pick up a kit to have my DH's swimmers checked on our own at a reproductive clinic. I guess we will do that if it's not too expensive. My only plan now is to just take the meds she prescribed, but I wondered if maybe I should take them on cd3-7 instead? Will that help me or hurt me?

myGirl

March 23rd, 2012, 01:50 PM

Hi Ladies!

I'm finally jumping in here because I'm ready to start ttc! It looks like March has been a good month so far in this thread, let's keep those BFP's coming! I am on Cycle day 3, I usually O on CD 12.

Kraisy - we are cycle buddies as usual! I see you are taking Clomid - I'm sorry your Doc. didn't up the dose. I will be praying that the 50mg. does it's job and you get a lot of eggies this time. If we get BFP this cycle, our due dates will be almost exactly on Christmas Day!

Amari - I'm so excited when I read about your follies and your attempts this month! It looks like this is your month for BFP!!

PFP - it sounds like you are PG! I can't wait for you to test!!

sweetsister, Hopeand DreamGirl, and everyone else good luck this cycle!

GO GO GO!!! :pinksperm: :pinksperm: :pinksperm:

prayforprincess

March 23rd, 2012, 02:43 PM

Did you all read??? Atomic is pregnant!! And its a GIRL!

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 03:06 PM

No kd mine are 25 each and I take 2 for it to b 50. I'm calling doc now to confirm!! Lol

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 03:07 PM

What???? Lol AS is preg with a girl. I'm on phone can't wait to see and post about it!!!!!!!! To congratulate her!!

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 03:15 PM

Kraisy- doc office closed I called my pharmacy. I am taking 100mg. They are 50 each and I take 2 tabs. I'm an idiot! Good this came up I'd b thinking I was taking different dose!

amari

March 23rd, 2012, 07:13 PM

Hope-Thanks for posting that! I appreciate you taking the time to find it for me! I am just a little wacky lately, it is just so hard to track the ovualtion and that is stressing me out a bit, esp b/c I am suppose to start progesterone after I ovulate and I don't want to mess that part up.

Did someone say AS is pg??

HopeandDreamG

March 23rd, 2012, 07:45 PM

Amari~ Yes with a girl!!

nks798

March 23rd, 2012, 08:55 PM

So happy for atomic (:

KraizyDaizy

March 23rd, 2012, 10:15 PM

What is better taking clomid days 3-7 or 5-9? What is the difference? Day 3 tomorrow, so I need to know.

amari

March 23rd, 2012, 10:22 PM

atomic sagebrush

March 23rd, 2012, 10:32 PM

What is better taking clomid days 3-7 or 5-9? What is the difference? Day 3 tomorrow, so I need to know.

Taking Clomid days 3-7 may make more eggs, some of which will not be mature. Increases odds of twinning but also ups chances of releasing immature eggs. Days 5-9 may make less eggs but more mature. Days 3-7 may be better for people who aren't ovulating on their own and 5-9 may be better for people with short LP.

Lassie1982

March 24th, 2012, 05:16 AM

:running:
Got a positive OPK tonight (VERY positive, test line much darker then control line) So im super close to 2WW!!!
Yipee :)

(though it is earlier then the last 2 months, im CD 12 today, and the past to months OV has been on cd14 and cd15)

And how amazing is AS's news :)

prayforprincess

March 24th, 2012, 08:52 AM

dramabird

March 24th, 2012, 10:41 AM

Hi, PFP -- if you'll recall, we're cycle sisters -- I, too, ovulated on March 16. And we both had implantation dips within the last couple of days, so fingers crossed for that!

I'm gonna test this coming Friday (March 30). That'll be 14dpo, so I figure a bfn would be definitive by then. I won't be late for my period at that point (I tend to have 16-17 day luteal phase), but I figure if a bfp is in the cards, it would show at that point and then I don't torment myself for the rest of that weekend watching for impending-AF spotting.

I've been kind of bad this 2ww myself. I'm still skipping breakfast and not snacking, but I haven't been logging my food. My lunch yesterday was broccoli and cauliflower, raw mushrooms with a scant amount of ranch dip ... and a donut!!! (So. Dang. Good. :)) My weight has dropped pretty low and if I food journal, I tend to feel too guilty to eat ... so to keep from losing more weight, I'm not food journaling for awhile. If it's a bfn, I'll go back to writing stuff down for the third cycle.

On another thread I wrote about feeling pretty down ... three months into this diet, it's getting tough. Atomic said that indicates we should start dropping other sway factors and just get pg, presumably so that we don't throw in the towel on the diet.

Stay strong, lady, we can do this. In the meantime, do what I'm doing ... cuddle your boys and eat lots of ice cream cones. :)

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 10:52 AM

Taking Clomid days 3-7 may make more eggs, some of which will not be mature. Increases odds of twinning but also ups chances of releasing immature eggs. Days 5-9 may make less eggs but more mature. Days 3-7 may be better for people who aren't ovulating on their own and 5-9 may be better for people with short LP.

Well before Clomid, my test results showed I was not ovulating on my own, so maybe I should take it days 3-7? My LP is around 14, so I am not sure? What would be your opinion on it if it were you AS?

prayforprincess

March 24th, 2012, 10:54 AM

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 10:54 AM

Took a test this am. Not sure why since it is so early 8dpo. bfn.
I hate to see that. It just makes me not want to test anymore.
I don't know what to do if I am not pg. I have totally gone of the diet in this 2ww.

Oh, it's still early girly, you have time. And just be positive, you are not out til AF shows. I know it is so hard, but I am not testing early anymore. It just killed me in previous cycles and I think really wasted money on tests. I mean, what is a few more days wait for me to find out? Don't quote me on this when I break down and test, but I only have one FRER test in the house, so if my temps go down, I know AF is on her way. Do you BBT temp?

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 10:58 AM

I thought day 5-9 made it so that your eggs were more mature? That's when I take it. That's all I know about it. What are you leaning towards?

Did you use any lube? I am trying to decide if I should add in preseed? I am so dry but I am also a little scared that it will undo all my hard work I am doing swaying, but I wonder if I can even get pg being this dry? Any thoughts?

No lube at all but I am not that dry. I think lubes hindered me in the past so not even SYLK this time. But I have heard girls on Clomid using a little SYLK on DH before hand has worked in getting them PG. Well the sperm has some lube in so to speak, so maybe that helps out when you are so dry?

atomic sagebrush

March 24th, 2012, 10:58 AM

Well before Clomid, my test results showed I was not ovulating on my own, so maybe I should take it days 3-7? My LP is around 14, so I am not sure? What would be your opinion on it if it were you AS?

I would prob. take it days 3-7 but I do think you should doublecheck with your doctor to be on the safe side, I'm not a doctor obvioulsy and they may have reasons/information that I don't know about.

atomic sagebrush

March 24th, 2012, 10:59 AM

No lube at all but I am not that dry. I think lubes hindered me in the past so not even SYLK this time. But I have heard girls on Clomid using a little SYLK on DH before hand has worked in getting them PG. Well the sperm has some lube in so to speak, so maybe that helps out when you are so dry?

Sylk doesn't really help get pg tho - it's very low pH so actually kills sperm. People have gotten pg while using it, but while on Clomid I think it's best to use Preseed.

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 11:01 AM

Sylk doesn't really help get pg tho - it's very low pH so actually kills sperm. People have gotten pg while using it, but while on Clomid I think it's best to use Preseed.

Even though it is supposed to sway boys? Maybe I should get some. I used it years ago and never fell pregnant, but maybe now I should consider it?

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 11:05 AM

I would prob. take it days 3-7 but I do think you should doublecheck with your doctor to be on the safe side, I'm not a doctor obvioulsy and they may have reasons/information that I don't know about.

If you have more eggs and ones that are less mature, are there any mature eggs? You need mature eggs right? It makes you O a couple days sooner or something and they don't have time to mature? I just want to get as much info to make a decision as my doc is not in the office on a Saturday, so this will be entirely on me to decide and ask for forgiveness later LOL!

atomic sagebrush

March 24th, 2012, 11:16 AM

Well, if your body gets confused and tries to make too many eggs, sometimes it doesn't get them to mature normally. Most peopel will still have SOME mature eggs but it's just like spreading too thin to try and make too many eggs.

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 11:45 AM

Okay taking it today Cd3-Cd7. Thanks for helping me decide AS!

amari

March 24th, 2012, 12:33 PM

I found the preseed at CVS. If this dryness doesn't stop I will def be using it!

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 12:40 PM

I found the preseed at CVS. If this dryness doesn't stop I will def be using it!

I did not know you could get it at CVS. I thought you still had to order it LOL!!! I may get some too LOL!!! but are you not afraid it could sway boy?

sweetsister

March 24th, 2012, 01:19 PM

Even though it is supposed to sway boys? Maybe I should get some. I used it years ago and never fell pregnant, but maybe now I should consider it?

I used it this time,but only 1/4 of the recommended amount,and i also used robitussin half the recommended amount but only a few times,so i guess well soon find out if it worked:shrug:

amari

March 24th, 2012, 02:34 PM

I thought you had to order it too! I looked online and it said u could get it at cvs and I went and checked and was surprised to find it!

I am a little nervous about it, but if u stay this dry I will never get pg! I am ready! I want to enjoy the summer, grill out, eat ice cream etc. I feel like I've lost weight/muscle tone, I don't eat much protein or snack so I've got hat going for me. They have the percentages of. Boy vs. girl births on their website you can checkout, I haven't looked in awhile but if I remember correctly it is same as irl.

HopeandDreamG

March 24th, 2012, 04:07 PM

dramabird & PFP~ we have been on this diet for so long I think even when we are within limits we are considering it a cheat! Last night I had 2 glasses of wine after dinner and a bit of a snack all in limits and felt guilty, ridiculous. I have not eaten over 1200 cals in 12 weeks. Holy Sh-t.

amari~ I can do this diet forever because its the only thing you can FULLY control with swaying HOWEVER, I do NOT think I can do this all summer. We LIVE at the beach at a cabana and grill EVERY day. Don't know what I will do. I best have a BFP by Memorial Day weekend!!

myGirl

March 24th, 2012, 07:08 PM

I looked on the Preseed website. They do surveys of the pregnancy outcomes. The most recent results (2010) are:

40% of babies were a boy
38% of babies were a girl
20% of first pregnancies were lost (consistent with the 25-38% of all first trimester pregnancies lost in the general population)

The survey before that (2005) showed:
17% a boy
19% a girl
35% reported no gender
29% had a lost pregnancy (miscarriage), including early “chemical” losses. The miscarriage rate is very consistent with pregnancy losses reported in other studies

Lassie1982

March 24th, 2012, 07:28 PM

Thanks dramabird. This is getting hard. If I get a bfn I will be going into my 3rd cycle.
You have not been that bad in this 2ww. I have been skipping breakfast and not eating til 12pm; but I have not only been eating one more meal. I have not been tracking my food at all. And I have been eating meat here and there, avocados and cottage cheese. I mean really bad foods.
I have no choice but to bite the bullet and be soooooooo incredibly strict on the diet from af-o next month if I have to.
I think I would dtd once at +opk, but not have dh lower his sperm count too much. Maybe just a 7 day abstain and then dtd one time on +opk night, rephresh at least 2-3 days prior(I would take my last application cd13), no sylk or replens and definitely no j&d. I would lay there with by legs and bum in the air for 40 minutes to get every little swimmer in there.
But God please - please don't make me go another month...please give me my bfp!
I think I will wait til at least Wedn. now to test. I cannot look at another bfn. I just can't.

Hey PFP - i'm kinda similar to you...i'm in my second cycle like you - and i'm also really struggling with the diet. Im not counting my intake because it was FAR to stressful, im pretty confidant i'm within the limits - but am just not certain, I dislike all the weightless and how i look so skinny (i was already bordering on too skinny to begin with!) And the constant hunger (though i am getting more and more used to it) is such a 'downer'

Im super super strict with the no breakfast and no snacking - but its so so difficult...

I really hope i get a BFP, because the thought of another month makes me groan :(
DH is also quiet keen for me to fall pregnant, and if i dont fall in this cycle i think he will be pushing to throw the sway out the window...so he will insist we cut out the rephresh, the liquorice root, the FR, and the hot baths (we've already thrown out timing) which means the only weapon i will have it the Diet - which of course means i will need to be 100000% strict on it..(and the supps, but of course there effectiveness is debatable)

Anyways, just wanted you to know you are not alone with the way you feel -so lots of hugs! And here's hoping we all see BFP's !!!

(oh and 8DPO IS super early, dont let that dishearten you, and if it does then please try and hold of testing till you are about 13-14dpo, dont give yourself ammo to disappoint yourself with - but yes i know, easier said then done)

amari

March 24th, 2012, 08:11 PM

Hope-Exactly, summer is time to grill and eat all those great melons and berries! I hope we get our bfp's by then!

Mygirl-Thanks for posting that! That's what I remember about the preseed, boys and girl babies being about the same, makes me feel a little better about using it!

prayforprincess

March 24th, 2012, 09:06 PM

Thanks all. I am gonna wait til 12dpo/Wedn. to test again. I just can't see all the bfn's. I have 4 more FRER left and a bunch of internet 10mlU cheapies. I wil test 12, 13, & 14 dpo. If by Friday they are not bfp, then I am pretty much out of the game.
I really hope.
Oh, and H&D, I know I complained about some cheats here and there that were not really cheats -- but when I say I have been cheating in this 2ww I have! Eating meat, not counting calorie (and i know that I am going over 1200 -- even 1800 maybe on a few days). About the only thing I have stuck to is not eating til 12pm. If I am not pg then I will need to go on the diet HARD CORE from af-o (minus Easter dinner of course). I am going to be good this week tho. I only plan to cheat on Monday night cause I have to make a dinner for a lot of friends, but other than that -- only 2 meals a day and staying 1200 or under other than that one meal til next weekend when I find out for sure if I am pg.
What else can I do? Needless to say, I am soooooo tired of this.
My dh told me this am that if I am not pg then that is it, we are done and not having another baby. I am like "ya right, I am the one in control of that." He is just sooooo sick of all this too tho. It needs to be over already.

amari

March 24th, 2012, 09:45 PM

pfp-I know the 2ww is so hard. I ended up upping my cals a bit and so far its made no difference weight wise. My dh is the same way, he is so sick of me being on this diet and this being the only thing I think/talk about! Hope this is it for you!

dramabird

March 24th, 2012, 09:47 PM

I want to enjoy the summer, grill out, eat ice cream etc.

For what it's worth, amari, I've been eating an ice cream cone almost every day. In most cases, a half cup serving is only 150 calories and is pretty low in sodium (I've seen 25mg-70mg, depending on the flavor) and the cone is like 20 cals and 25mg sodium. I haven't food journaled in a week or so, but I probably added ice cream into my diet three or four weeks ago, so I know I was staying under my fat, protein and calcium limits.

I had to go out with family today, so we ate at Wendy's ... I had a garden side salad with fat-free French (no croutons) a baked potato with chives and butter spread (no sour cream), a Diet Coke and a value-sized Frosty ... I've looked up those values in the past so I knew it was a relatively acceptable meal for fast food, keeping sodium at least within reason, if not ideal.

Tonight's dinner was steamed broccoli and cauliflower, a huge plate of raw mushrooms with 1 Tbsp. ranch dressing, an apple with no skin, a serving of Trader Joe's naan flatbread (delicious!) with 1 Tbsp. of horseradish hummus, and six miniature pastries from Costco -- plus a couple of glasses of Crystal Light. I feel stuffed and guilty (I don't dare add up the values cuz I'm trying to avoid the stress of feeling down in the dumps) but I keep trying to remember that A) a big portion of what is making me feel so full at the moment is fruit and veggies and CL, which are low-cal, and B) I have to have some calories and fat if I don't want to drop below 96 freakin' pounds! :)

Aaaaaaand I'll probably have an ice cream cone while watching TV with DH in just a bit. :)

dramabird

March 24th, 2012, 09:54 PM

please try and hold of testing till you are about 13-14dpo, dont give yourself ammo to disappoint yourself with - but yes i know, easier said then done)

:agree: with this totally. Here's what I figure -- a bfn before 14dpo still doesn't necessarily mean you're not pg, so it doesn't keep you from getting your hopes up (but the bfn does make you feel bummed). And a bfp too early would just add worries about the possibility of a chemical (think about how much the implantation bleeding from last cycle drove you crazy). I think the Fertility Friend website said the average positive pregnancy test comes on CD13.6 or something like that.

For me, I like having a specific time where I will take one test and one test only and know that it's pretty much a "yay" or a "nay" at that point.

But of course, you have to do what's right for you. If you were the only one with the compulsion to take multiple tests, they wouldn't have coined the term "POAS addict." :)

dramabird

March 24th, 2012, 09:57 PM

I ended up upping my cals a bit and so far its made no difference weight wise.

But at least that means you didn't go down in weight. As tiny as you are right now, that alone has to be swaying pink (vs. a need for an ongoing loss, if that makes sense). Forgive me if you've said in the past, but a few questions: how tall are you, what is your bmi and what was your starting weight on this diet? Did your current issues with non-ovulation start with the weight loss or does it pre-date the diet?

I'm thinking "eggie" thoughts for you!!

dramabird

March 24th, 2012, 09:59 PM

Needless to say, I am soooooo tired of this.

Me, too. C'mere, gimme a hug.

Kraizy, I think we could use some more of your awesome prayer work up in here. :) Though we walk through the valley of the 2ww, we shall fear no bfn. :)

amari

March 24th, 2012, 10:50 PM

drama-I do ice cream and frozen yogurt a lot too! That day doesn't look so bad to me! I was actually craving a Frosty yesterday. I've stayed within my limits too, except sodium which I never seem to, but when I think about it it doesn't seem that way; the stuff that adds up that seems to be so bad; rice krispie treat, full sugar pepsi, tj's cat cookies with cool whip, mike n ikes, 100 cal pack hostess coffee cake, spoonful of frosting :worry: But when you pair it up with the iceberg lettuce and peeled zucchini and mini bagel etc it just doesn't add up. And you are small too, and so like you said, you have to make sure you have enough weight on you to conceive. I am 5' 4" so BMI with the calculator I just used is 16.1-16.3. I was about 102-103 when I started this, and a lot more muscular b/c I worked out, ran and lifted weights. I stopped getting regular periods and ovulating about 9 months ago, not sure why.

How about you? How much have you lost? Are you worried about not o'ing? That is why I tend to add a lot of sweets to my meals, even though I am on clomid and doing the LE, I don't want my body to think I shouldn't even conceive. So even at night if I am not hungry I make sure to get the calories in with a bunch of desserts. Hope this helps.

KraizyDaizy

March 24th, 2012, 11:11 PM

Praying the Lord watches over all of your wombs and that He places the perfect ray of sunshine, a daughter, into our worlds of blue. Amen

dramabird

March 25th, 2012, 12:15 AM

How about you? How much have you lost? Are you worried about not o'ing?

I'm 5 feet, 2.5 inches and weighed in at 96 lbs. the other day, so that puts my bmi around 17.3. I started the diet at 107 lbs. (in general, I usually weigh around 103 or 104, I'd say ... for a few months before starting the diet, I tried to do some extra indulging to give myself a little bit more to lose), so I've lost a bit more than 10 pounds.

I've been off the pill and charting for the past six months (although this was only our second month TTC) and I've ovulated each time. But I haven't been this low a weight since college so I just want to make sure I don't scoot myself into a territory of being anovulatory. DH would be absolutely fine with either a boy or a girl (frankly, he'd also be pretty fine with us stopping at the two kids we already have :)) and he's putting up with all of this just for me ... but if he thinks I'm putting my health at jeopardy, he would lose patience really quickly. So I think at this point it's important for me to stay around 96 to 98 lbs. ... that seems like it's still a low enough overall weight to be pink-friendly, without going too low and risking not ovulation (or marital discord :)). So I'm trying to make sure I'm eating lots of veggies, lots of fruit, lots of carbs and lots of sweets.

I am pretty proud to have been able to bust out my skinny jeans again, though! lol

PeonyPrincess

March 25th, 2012, 03:20 AM

Just a quick hi to all you lovely ladies. I have just got back from a weeks holiday, so it will take me a while to catch up. Hope you are all going well, or at least as well as can be expected in the frustration that swaying can cause!

amari

March 25th, 2012, 09:21 AM

I'm 5 feet, 2.5 inches and weighed in at 96 lbs. the other day, so that puts my bmi around 17.3. I started the diet at 107 lbs. (in general, I usually weigh around 103 or 104, I'd say ... for a few months before starting the diet, I tried to do some extra indulging to give myself a little bit more to lose), so I've lost a bit more than 10 pounds.

I've been off the pill and charting for the past six months (although this was only our second month TTC) and I've ovulated each time. But I haven't been this low a weight since college so I just want to make sure I don't scoot myself into a territory of being anovulatory. DH would be absolutely fine with either a boy or a girl (frankly, he'd also be pretty fine with us stopping at the two kids we already have :)) and he's putting up with all of this just for me ... but if he thinks I'm putting my health at jeopardy, he would lose patience really quickly. So I think at this point it's important for me to stay around 96 to 98 lbs. ... that seems like it's still a low enough overall weight to be pink-friendly, without going too low and risking not ovulation (or marital discord :)). So I'm trying to make sure I'm eating lots of veggies, lots of fruit, lots of carbs and lots of sweets.

I am pretty proud to have been able to bust out my skinny jeans again, though! lol

I hear you! It's all a balancing act when starting off with not a lot to lose. My dh is putting up with it for me to and worried about my health too. I think you are doing a great job! Keep it up , and hopefully you won't have to for much longer!

prayforprincess

March 25th, 2012, 04:19 PM

ok, so I am 9dpo, did not test this morning. I really want a martini -- I am thinking to just go for it. If I am pg its sooo early it would not make a difference.
I will start testing tomorrow morning (10dpo) thru Friday (14dpo). If by Friday I stil have a bfn then I am out of the game and waiting for af to arrive next weekend.
I really don't know what to think. I feel like I have a good shot but I don't feel like I am that lucky.
I feel like with my luck, I am not pg and have totally messed up the diet in this 2ww. Watch, I will get pg next month after only being on the diet strict again for 2 weeks and it will be another boy. That there -- that is my luck. Just look at my sig and you can see my "luck".

KraizyDaizy

March 25th, 2012, 04:34 PM

PFP, I don't really believe in luck, but looking at your siggy, I believe you are truly blessed. The diet and swaying made me crazy, so I am just trying to keep everything low, no breakfast, changed Clomid from cd5-9 to cd3-7 (dont' tell my doc LOL) etc...and let what happens happen. I have come to terms with another boy and have been even thinking of names and so forth. I just want a baby at this point. To hold another in my arms and know that I don't have to give it back to it's momma is something I long for.

I don't think a little martini ever hurt anyone, so I think you would be okay in some much earned indulgence.

Praying for you a BFP soon! Can't wait to see two pink lines for you!!!! Amen!

Lassie1982

March 25th, 2012, 04:36 PM

ok, so I am 9dpo, did not test this morning. I really want a martini -- I am thinking to just go for it. If I am pg its sooo early it would not make a difference.

Give yourself a drink hun, i think you need it to help the stress levels....

From the sounds of things, i dont think you have 'totally' messed up the diet either!! You've not been 100% but you have certainly been a lot stricter then some other successful girl sways.

Dont base your hope on previous 'luck', try and convince yourself that everything happens (or doesnt happen) for a reason. Maybe your failed attempts are because the little person that will be joining your family is only ready now, or next month.

Try and stay positive - positivity breeds positive energy, and that can only be a good thing.

Chin up hun! :)

HopeandDreamG

March 25th, 2012, 04:46 PM

Prayforprincess~ Now's the time for the martini bc you won't be able to have one for 9months!! Thats why I had the wine Fri, and Sat night! and it was soooo enjoyable. At our cal count too it really was relaxing-you could feel the alcohol!! Enjoy.. I feel exactly like you, I actually have the mind set I won't get a BFP, but yet I have the wine with the mindset I won't be able to drink for 9 months. I think seeing them in Nov. & FEb (my 2 other attempt) really knocked me off my horse-having a history of oopsie after oopsie. Then getting BFN with DTD 7 times in a fertile window. WTF is that! And if I get preg will it really be a girl? Can I be that blessed will it be my turn?

prayforprincess

March 25th, 2012, 07:26 PM

Thank you ladies...what would I do without you???
Seriously, I talk to my firends about you like you ar part of my real life. Its as if I talk to you girls daily, cause I do. I think others think i am crazy. Maybe I am. You are the only ones who understand.
Boobs hurt. So weird. Told my mom today that I think my body is changing. Maybe my progesterone is stronger than before because I never had soer boobs waiting for af one week early.
Who knows. Will test in the morning. I can't be having these drinks unless i know for sure I am in the clear.

prayforprincess

March 25th, 2012, 07:27 PM

I wish it was not so hard...emotionally.....
And I know what you are saying KD, I just wanna hold my baby in my arms. My best gf just had a bbay girl on Tuesday night and I hold her and cuddle her...I wanna keep her. I see her breast feeding and I want that again. I want a baby!

HopeandDreamG

March 25th, 2012, 07:57 PM

PFP - it's funny I was telling my mom and dh about u at dinner. They were saying what a great site it sounded like and how amazing we all support each other. I even told dh we were going to Boston one day if we both had girls! He was like ok cool I would like to see Boston! I thought he was going to tell me I was nuts!

amari

March 25th, 2012, 08:09 PM

KraizyDaizy

March 25th, 2012, 09:13 PM

I feel the same way about you ladies, I am trying so hard to get you all memorized in my brain, and it can be confusing remembering who is who, but I would not trade you all for the world! You are all truly a God Send!!!!

I say go for it Amari. I plan to DTD as often as I can. My DH is already preparing for it. I mean he is ready to start now LOL!!!

I wonder about OPKs with Clomid. I am hearing they are not so reliable while on Clomid? Maybe I am missing the egg because I am thinking I am Oing when I am not? Confused as usual so I guess we will just go for it.

I understand your fear about using the preseed. Have you used it before? It does not take much at all to get the job done. When we used it before it came in prefilled applicators that had way too much in them, but I think now its in a different container? Jellies of any kind have not helped me, so I am ditching them. But, if for some reason I don't have CM this cycle, I am not sure what I will do. Maybe tiny bit of SYLK or maybe not LOL!!!

mydream

March 25th, 2012, 09:32 PM

Ohhh ladies. I too don't know what I would do without this site and all of you. Although I am not on here as often as I would like to be, please know I always love to check in and see updates and lend advice when I can.
PFP- this could very well be you lucky month!!!!Wishing the same for all of you!!!! :)

_Lala_

March 25th, 2012, 11:24 PM

I dont know what i would do without all of you too!! :bighug:I dont post much either but i come on the site a number of times a day, every day, since December. I feel like i know all of you and i just love how much support and well wishes and prayers there are for everyone. It certainly makes this whole process a lot more tolerable - physically and emotionally - knowing that so many women from all around the world are experiencing the exact same thing. I think we should all be so proud of our achievements and our persistnece and dedication to all the craziness that is involved in swaying. I hope every single one of us gets our beautiful, happy and healthy little girls, and one day we can tell them how hard we fought to get them here. i cant wait for that day! Keep it up ladies, you are all very special women. Big buckets of love to all of you from me!!:awe:

sweetsister

March 26th, 2012, 12:50 AM

Hey, girls! This site is great, isn't it! Swaying would be so much harder without each other!!

pfp-sore boobs is a good sign!

hope-how are you feeling?

I bought some preseed yesterday, do you all think I should use it? I am afraid to b/c of the blue sway factor, even though the site stats show it doesn't sway blue. But I am also afraid not to b/c I am pretty lacking in cm and don't want to not get pg b/c of it. Decisions, decisions. Still neg opk but I think we should dtd tonight even though dh already fr today, do you think that is ok?

I was afraid too Amari but Atomic recomended it ,and i trust her knowing that :)
P.s.i think for me it was difficult too because it has a blue boy looking box?isnt that stupid but your mind plays games on you,dont know if that might also be one of the reasons its bugging you?

amari

March 26th, 2012, 07:13 AM

I was afraid too Amari but Atomic recomended it ,and i trust her knowing that :)
P.s.i think for me it was difficult too because it has a blue boy looking box?isnt that stupid but your mind plays games on you,dont know if that might also be one of the reasons its bugging you?

LOL, not stupid, it would be nice if it was pink, wouldn't it?! I did use some last night and girl did it make a difference! Did you use it every time you dtd? How much did you use? I am trying to keep it in my mind the the stats show no difference in gender. I gotta get out of my head!!

In my dream last night I couldn't even indulge. I was on a vacation with my family and I special ordered dinner from this chef so it would fit the LE diet, I asked for all veggies, no meat and corn tortillas b/c they were making chicken or steak fajitas. Then I said well you can give me a side of beans, thinking I would treat myself, then I panicked and said, Oh, wait, I'm sure your beans arent' vegetarian, never mind! You would think at least in my dreams I would eat a big juicy burger or something!!

HopeandDreamG

March 26th, 2012, 07:24 AM

Amari- that dream is hysterical! I had one that I was eating pretzels between meals!! I wish lol. I woke up so happy it wasn't true ! What has my life become that that's a nightmare!! Where did the whole preseed=boy come from? IG? I understand why it would be hard to move past preconceived ideas.
I am doing ok. No symptoms but I never do. Just feeling like I'm not preg but hoping for a surprise. I feel on one hand it may b my month on the other I won't b suprised by a bfn. My temp is strange. Maybe the clomid? I had to change O date to line up with injection and temps now are pre o temps. Must b clomid.

Babyy Love

March 26th, 2012, 07:31 AM

Wow congratulations! It amazes me by how much success and positivity comes from here! I hope I catch some of your luck next month! For it will soon be a year of TTC for us :tissue: and a flash back of the times we wanted to give up and when we fought because the things I learned from IG were all wrong! I truly hope with the help of you ladies I will catch the baby bug no later than June

sweetsister

March 26th, 2012, 07:34 AM

Amari Lol nice dream!shhhhh though dont even mention burger omg i cant imagine even what that tastes like anymore...

I used the preseed every time we dtd except the last attempt i used conceive plus (the pink box):oops:and the one that probably sways more boy,higher ph,but i had already oed and wanted to try it,anyways with the preseed i used up until the 1g line,but i probably didnt use enough because im 10 dpo bfn and not feeling it today:(

prayforprincess

March 26th, 2012, 08:23 AM

Amari -- could you use Sylk instead of preseed for lube?

Thanks ladies, I love you all too! Don't know what I would do or how I would get thru this all without you all.
So, 10dpo (I think) and clearly a bfn this morning.
I feel so down. I just hate this and I truly messed the diet. I mean, I had ribs and sweet potatoes for dinner last night (with my martini). My girlfriend who just had the baby is coming over for dinner tonight. So, I just have to go straight back on the diet hard core starting tomorrow. I will have been 9 days off the diet and back on for 3 weeks before ovulation. I think that is fine given how incredibly strict I am. Plus, Going off the diet and gaining 2 lbs (oops I know) and then going back on again for 3 weeks I will probably lose another 5-10 lbs easy. That will be good for my sway.
I know its still early but I just feel like its over. My boobs still feel tender but that could just be my progesterone level up. Nothing explains that weird dip in my LP 6dpo and all those weird cramps here and there; but who knows?
I am gonna post some ideas in the dream member forum - could you all take a look and comment.

amari

March 26th, 2012, 08:59 AM

pfp-the sylk burns me so much that I can't even dtd. it must be to acidic for me. i think with the clomid it just makes your cm so hostile. I think I will just use a touch of the preseed.

also, I know you're feeling bad about some days "cheating" I did that a few times. Your body will go right back. YOu don't have 10lbs to lose, do you?

dramabird

March 26th, 2012, 09:48 AM

Nothing explains that weird dip in my LP 6dpo and all those weird cramps here and there; but who knows?

I'm not a symptom spotter, but last cycle I had at least eight days of cramping in a row before I was due ... that was a huge pg (and pretty much the only) sign for me when I was pregnant with our first son, so I was quite certain I was pregnant last month. Seriously, when I took the test on 14dpo and it only had one line, I was stumped and said, "Huh?" out loud in the bathroom. I'm having some cramping on and off this cycle, but not as consistently or frequently as last cycle. Which, oddly enough, I'm discouraged about -- "Oh, it was stronger last month" -- except I WASN'T pg last month, so who cares what last month's symptoms were? :rolleyes:

As for the implantation dip (which I had this month, too) ... Fertility Friend says that about 25 percent of postive-pregnancy charts feature the dip (which means three out of four don't) and that 11 percent of negative-pregnancy charts have it. So, for both of us, it's a good sign that it was there, but it doesn't mean anything for certain (and the lack of one definitely wouldn't be a certainty).

The fact of the matter is, I don't think either of us can say we're out for sure until the end of the week. And as for being off the diet for nine days ... remember, it's the overall trend ... so you have 2-1/2 months of being on the diet in your favor, too. There have been plenty of women who have gotten girls while eating meat and avocados.

And I'd like to echo amari re: the weight loss ... do you have the wiggle room left to lose 5 to 10 lbs. without risking being anovulatory? I can't recall if you've mentioned your bmi.

And hey, high five on the martini. I could so use a glass of wine right now (well, not right now, as it's not even 9 a.m., but you know what I mean ;)).

prayforprincess

March 26th, 2012, 09:50 AM

Thanks drama and amari.
I could lose 10 lbs but I would be crazy skinny. I could lose 5 more and be fine for sure, not worried about not ovulating, just on the very thin side for me.
I am 5'7", medium boned and weigh 135 now. I am like a size 4. When I go back on the diet for another 3 weeks that will be a little shock since I went off for 9 days and I will lose another 5-7 lbs. -- I know it. And weighing 130 or under for me is very thin, I have never in my life been that thin as an adult and I don't think I have weighed 130 or under since I was in 8th grade.
That said, I don't think I would be sick thin at all -- so I will lose some more lbs in the next few weeks and that will help my sway. Before I o'ed this month I was kinda at a plateau. The scale was at 135 no matter what I ate. So, maybe going off the diet for a week or se will help jump start my body into losing more weight again before o.
Who knows, maybe it could work in my favor.

dramabird

March 26th, 2012, 10:02 AM

So, maybe going off the diet for a week or se will help jump start my body into losing more weight again before o.
Who knows, maybe it could work in my favor.

I think someone, zanacal maybe, had mentioned that. When you consistently stay at low calories, your body learns that it should hang onto them in case you continue having low calories. So yeah, the indulgences of the past week may trick your body into thinking times are good and then "whoops" letting some pounds go when you sneak in low cals again.

I'm no expert, but I'd say that you're fine to lose that 5 to 7 (or even 10) if you'd like. If you were to lose 10, that would put your BMI at 19.6, which is certainly slim, but still not considered "underweight" on the BMI charts (whereas amari and I, at low 16s and low 17s respectively, would get some strict finger-wagging :)) ... so I think you do have the wiggle room if you want to use it. (Although if you've already lost 20 pounds, you're doing great regardless.)

As for the BFN ... I just googled "BFN at 10dpo" and found tons of forums where women said they had bfns then and got bfps several days later. Not out yet!! :)

prayforprincess

March 26th, 2012, 10:36 AM

I know I know. I guess I am just mentally preparing myself. I feel out. Its better to be pleasantly surprised than overly disappointed. And this way I can go into next month not thinking about it.
I definitely have wiggle room.. I could lose 10 lbs., though don't think I will in only 3 weeks. Hopefully I lose 7lbs though before I o. I will stay at 950-1150 calories daily.
I am definitely a healthy weight so not concerned with ovulating at all.

auroara78

March 26th, 2012, 11:57 AM

PFP, I am 5'7" and in high school I was 120ish lbs and looked very thin :( tho funny enough I had to wear a size 8/10 because of my hips, but the pants always fit funny on me or were very loose in the legs, so I used to love to wear skirts and dresses because it worked better with my body! Then I moved in with my BF (now DH) and he cooked sooooo good I went up to 145-150 and I think I looked my best then...I filled my legs out some, pants fit really well (a size 12 tho, but a perfect fit) and medium blouses were perfect....

Before I got pregannt, I was 205 lbs!!! Was down to about 200 or so when I got knocked up, and thanks to MS, I lost 8 more lbs, so my big goal after this pregnancy is to really bust a move and get back down to 135-145, because persoanlly I think that was thin for me, but I had a little meat on my bones. I persoanlly don't like when I am too thin, because I am very pale, and being really, really thin with my complexion makes me look sickly, you know?

So sorry to hear bout BFN :( I dont' think you are out yet until you get a BFN at 14 dpo or AF. For sure at AF.

Hello all you other ladies and I know TTC'ing a girl is so tough, and the diet sucks :( I wasn't very faithful on the diet and did a lot of variations because of health issues, so God only knows what I'm growing in here!

prayforprincess

March 26th, 2012, 12:32 PM

ya Aurora that is me. At 135 I think I look really good. I am thin but I have a figure still. I have never been 125 but I can imagine that would look too thin on me. I have been 155-160 before. I can carry that - being a size 8-10, but I don't feel comfortable. Everyone who knows me says I look best at 140 - but I like to be 5 or so pounds lighter to give me a little room. I am hoping I can get down to 130 before I o in April. That would be ideal for my sway.

prayforprincess

March 26th, 2012, 01:39 PM

gosh, and now I have all this lower back pain. as many of you know I had back surgery again in January for the 2nd time in 10 months. But that was due to a broken disc and I was having severe sciatic pain down my leg.
This is not sciatic, this is just sore lower back pain. I hope I did not do anything.
I swear, between the weird cramping, the sore-ish boobs and now this lower back pain I am having the worst LP of my life. Maybe at almost 30 I am actually starting to get pms symptoms -- never had them before in my life.

nks798

March 27th, 2012, 08:25 AM

good morning, ladies!! I am having "symptoms" that I keep thinking "I'm just imagining bc I want to be pregnant sooooo bad." then I have days I don't really have much of anything. I have dreamt every day since last week and I can remember every day. weird. I'm waiting til Thursday to test. I'm really scared that I won't get a BFP. I guess bc this is my first month TTC.. and I know that more than likely, I won't be pregnant but I'm still scared of it. sigh.. lol

littlemissnaughty7

March 27th, 2012, 08:55 AM

ahhhhhhh nks798 that was my first clue i was pregnant i had a dream every night, and im still doing it now and im 5 weeks pregnant now !!!!!!!

prayforprincess

March 27th, 2012, 09:02 AM

KraizyDaizy

March 27th, 2012, 09:03 AM

Sending major BFP vibes for all that in the waiting to test!!! God bless you lovely ladies!!!!!!!!

nks798

March 27th, 2012, 09:27 AM

ok, so I used this: Pregnancy Test Timing Calculator - When Should I Test? | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/tools/pregnancy_test_calculator.php) and according to that I'm only 6 DPO. I guess it's using the 24-48 hour ovulation thing.. IDK. I guess I will still test Thursday and see what happens. littlemissnaughty7, I hope I am.. but I'm so discouraged lol prayforprincess, with DS, we DTD about everyday. out attempt this time.. was abstain and then we did compressed FR. so IDK.. I say do the opposite of what you've done previous times when you got your other children.

auroara78

March 27th, 2012, 10:01 AM

PFP, I agree, from just talking about friends about it, seems that DTD daily or lots and lots or just once leads to more girls. Every 2-3 days, or every other day seems to be boy behavior, but i have seen girls come from that. Obviously nothing is 100% but I still think for some reasdon DTD daily or x2 really seems to increase the chance of girls. Not sure why, maybe the sperm cannot recover fast enough to keep up with ejecuations?

littlemissnaughty7

March 27th, 2012, 10:23 AM

my HCG results at 21dpo is 3150, got a scan tomorrow morning auroara has given her advice on the ramzi theory idea, anyone else want to share some advice on what to ask the tech ??

amari

March 27th, 2012, 11:10 AM

Hi, girls. I'm nervous I'm not going to not o after all this. I am cd 19. I usually o on cd 21, but my opks are pretty damn light still , almost white. I'm getting pretty scared.

coocoobananas

March 27th, 2012, 11:45 AM

Amari I was thinking the same with mine although my circumstances were different! I needed to get an opk before my husband went out of town and it was down to the wire! I just tried to make my self relax and I had to just keep calm by knowing I had no control over it so there was no need to get myself worked up! Plus that would only hinder the sway anyway... The stress! So easier said than done but I would try to just give in to it all and I think it will happen!!

HopeandDreamG

March 27th, 2012, 03:04 PM

HopeandDreamG

March 27th, 2012, 03:14 PM

I had time I read the posts-
PFP: I think the every so often dtd sways boy because it increases the sperm count- assuming the guy is not releasing on his own. Which is exactly why we decrease their count by dtd daily around O. Or I shot but releasing daily from AF. I would bet there is such as small difference percentage wise as to a better sway with one shot dtd and multiple DTD as long as there was releasing daily before! and the multiple increases the chance of BFP while diet is stronger, so maybe equals out ot can argue would be even better iykwim!

Someone make me feel better about the puppy, please!! :)

KraizyDaizy

March 27th, 2012, 03:15 PM

Buyer's remorse LOL! I often wonder if there will ever be a time if and when I finally have my daughter, if I will ever have 'buyer's remorse" so to speak. You know when you have waited for so long for something to come and then it does and it is not at all what you thought it would be? I know I will love being a girl momma, but just wonder if I will ever have a moment like that?

HopeandDreamG

March 27th, 2012, 03:49 PM

Kraisy- I def won't have remorse if I get my girl. I can tell u that for 100%

Amari- relax and O will come! You had thought it was coming early guessing that ended up a false positive from the clomid?

Lassie1982

March 27th, 2012, 03:53 PM

Hi ladies, I didn't read before posting, wanted to say hello. We bought a puppy a bit impulsively I've had dogs before so I know whats involved. Now I'm having a little buyers remorse. I am so nervous it was the wrong decision. Our lives are so hectic already, I'm freaked out a little..the expense, time, stress etc.. Its a boxer and she's so cute 13 weeks, kids are so excited. Its a SHE and how ridiculolus my thoughts are: I'm thinking I've been praying for a girl, this isn't what I meant!! Will I not get a girl now (SO SO SILLY I KNOW, can't believe I even think like this, so illogical) She was born on my grandmothers birthday I got caught up in the moment! The grandma I pray to after every attempt to send me a baby girl. I hope this wasn't a mistake. Dh was thinking if I was preg this would give us 9months to adjust, and train or it would be years from now before we got a puppy. AHHHHHHH I feel so worried.

Hey H&G!!

A puppy is always going to be tricky for the first couple of months, but once she has grown a bit, and has settled down you will not be able to imagine how you lived your life without her! Especially a boxer!!! CLose friends of our had one and that dog was THE most loving animal i have ever known in my entire life (except for our 2 Rough Collies).
They shower you with unconditional love, listen without judging you, keep you company without wanting anything in return, and have this inexplicable ability to bring you joy...some breeds are better at this then others - and boxers are WELL up there!
We got 2 rough collies (think Lassie) when i was going through a very difficult circumstance in life, so they were certainly an impulse purchase, which after my situation improved, i did somewhat regret. But honestly I would not be without them - no way! My son has formed a really deep bond with one of them, we live on acreage and i feel so much safer knowing that he has a guardian following him around.
And im so close to them aswell.
I honestly believe that everything happens for a reason, and its seems like there was a reason for you to give this pup a home, impulsive or not, i think the DOB being the same as your grandmothers cetainly 'means' something (i am the sort of person that looks for 'signs' in things! - drives my dh mental LOL)

I wouldn't think that this pup is your girl and that you will never have a baby girl - what i would be thinking is that this is your baby girl, UNTIL you get your own baby girl, and when you do get your baby girl she wil be coming home to a family with a ready and willing best friend and protector to be her companion always - maybe your grandmother wanted a vessel to be able to shower her with love with, and maybe this pup is it :)

Hope that makes sense! Sorry if i ranted on too much!!

KraizyDaizy

March 27th, 2012, 04:08 PM

Kraisy- I def won't have remorse if I get my girl. I can tell u that for 100%

Oh I know you won't, it's just my brain making me wonder these things LOL! I hope you did not think I was insinuating that you would regret your daughter.

I won't regret my daughter for sure. She is all I dream of, but I hear my friends with girls telling me that girls are so much harder, so I sometimes just let my mind wonder how it will be to have my own. Plus having four boys I feel really spread thin these days, and I guess to tell you the truth, I am second guessing having another....

prayforprincess

March 27th, 2012, 04:37 PM

I got a puppy last summer. She will be 1 year in April. Lily, she is a little white pomeranian.
I think a puppy is great -- work, but it is great. Lily is amazing I cannot imagine life without her.
It will just take you time but you will adjust -- especially before the baby.

I had buyers remorse after Lily and within a week I could not be happier.

pinkin2011

March 27th, 2012, 05:31 PM

I have dreams every night. 11dpo today and bfn. I know I am not pregnant.

I put up my new plan for next month. Do you guys think that dtd daily sways boys?? I see soooo many girl mom's who dtd daily and got their dd's. My girlfriend dtd only once with all 3 of her kids and she has g/b/g. Another one of my gf's has 3 daughters, 2 x she dtd daily, and only one time she dtd once.
I feel like for a girl, you either dtd once or everyday. Doing it here or there seems to lead to boys.
Your thoughts ladies?....

Hi PFP,
With my ds we dtd every day from when af finished up until a few days before af was meant to start so there would of been a very high sperm count inside of me! With this preg we only dtd once with d/h releasing for 10 days then we dtd it was on his 3rd release in 24 hrs BUT we shall wait and see the outcome!

prayforprincess

March 27th, 2012, 06:37 PM

i was wondering where u were pinkin. We haven't seen you in awhile.
i am 11dpo and bfn still. a tiny part of me is still hoping but i know there is slim to no chance.

i am hoping with my dh being 37 and taking LR that dtd every day will be nothing similar to dtd daily with no LR at 28.
here is to hoping.

i am also contimplating ht again if this cycle is bfn (which it more than appears it will be). I dont know if i am just asking for more disappointment. i really dont know right now.

amari

March 27th, 2012, 08:00 PM

Hope-A puppy! You will love her!!! My 12 1/2 year old puppy is sitting right next to me right now! He and I have been through so much together, I love him so much. She will be part of your family real soon and your dg will be your second pink bundle!

Yes, the other O was a false + I believe. I am trying to relax, I even let go of my usual diet dinner, though that made me eat way more sodium and fat than I ever have on the LE diet, though still within the limits, but woah, it tasted sooo salty! Kraft grilled cheese on white bread compared to white rice and zucchini, big difference!

PFP-I have gotten a -on 11dpo and been pregnant before, don't give up hope, its too soon!!

HopeandDreamG

March 27th, 2012, 09:45 PM

Hi ladies. Amari/pfp: Thanks for your thoughts/support on the puppy! I hope your right.

Lassie you made me tear up I really needed to read that at right that moment. Thank you xoxo

So I just went to the bathroom and wiped a tiny bit of blood on the toilet paper. Have never had that ever. I'm only 5dpo too early for implantation spotting right? Or right about there? PFP what I the timing? I know you've posted before days from fertilization to implantation?

amari

March 27th, 2012, 10:41 PM

I don't know how early you can get it hope, that sounds like it could be though!! FX for you!!!

amari

March 27th, 2012, 10:44 PM

What are you ladies planning to do eating wise for passover/easter? Will you stick to LE? Cheat some, not eat most of the day and then eat whatever for the special meal? Eat everything but the meat? I'm trying to figure out what to do. There are so many foods that are not on the LE diet like meat, raisins, almond cake, eggs, etc. And of course, the whole family is there and will be very concerned if I don't eat much since they already hate the fact that I am too skinny. Would love to hear how you all will tackle it!

myGirl

March 27th, 2012, 11:05 PM

Hopeanddreamgirl,

We got our first puppy ever 1.5 years ago... She is a Boxer too! It is a decision I will never regret, she is so good with the kids. I love the way she wiggles her butt like crazy when she sees us, and she always wants to be with us. My boys have learned responsibility by taking care of her and she is such a good dog.

The first few weeks were a lot of work, house training her and such. We took her to puppy school and she learned all the basic commands, boxers are very smart! After that, she really hasn't been very much work, especially considering how happy she makes us.

If you spend some time now training her (make sure you give her plenty of chances to socialize with other dogs too) you will not regret it. She will be pretty easy to take care of in 9 months time, when you have your DD! Plus it is fun to get the pink doggie stuff LOL.

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myGirl

March 27th, 2012, 11:13 PM

Amari,

I will be in the 2ww on Easter, and I think I will just consider it a cheat day. Probably I'll cut some calories from other meals around then, but I'm sure I'll go over on fat & protein. I love chocolate. Even tho its been confirmed as a trigger food for my migraines, i still eat it sometimes knowing I will suffer! ( haven't touched it on the diet tho)

As for meat... I always say I'm not going to eat it, but at social events if something is calling my name, I sometimes give in and have a little. I doubt a tiny bit of meat could really affect testosterone much. Plus Atomic always says its the overall trend in your diet that sways, not one meal by itself.

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pearl

March 28th, 2012, 02:51 AM

Hi girls, Do not always have time to post, but i read all posts at the end of the day. I just had my OV on CD 16 or 17. It was my first clomid cycle 50 ml. We had dtd every day for 7-10 days. I did not use anything else (gel). I do want to get pg this month, very tired of LE diet, last 20 pounds. My husband hates it. The lowest weight for me 107 pounds. I am 5'2. I was 125-127 pounds when i got pg with my boys. We were dtd every day also, but with clomid i did not had a choice of timing. Since my OV i have been on a very strict LE diet, cann't wait for this to end with a BFPink pregnancy :))) Also, trying hard not to cheat for the next 10 days :( Also, I notice i am losing a lot of hair and my skin looks horrible.

prayforprincess

March 28th, 2012, 08:32 AM

H&D -- Its not likely. The soonest the embryo will implant is cd6. It takes 5 days to become a full blast, and then has to hatch and then implant. Many embryos float around for a while too before they begin to implant. That is why soonest you would see implantation blood is cd6, and that is soon. Most common is cd8-11. The blood needs to be pink or dark brown, not red. Red is a sign of active bleeding.
Most embryos will implant between cd6 and cd9. Some later but it is less common. Never earlier though, it is an impossibility.

prayforprincess

March 28th, 2012, 08:39 AM

auroara78

March 28th, 2012, 10:35 AM

PFP, wow that is great knowledge to hear! You know your stuff :)
As much as I love you on the swaying boards, if your heart is really into HT, maybe give it another a shot? That way you are guaranteed the daughter?

Hope N Dreams, a puppy is adorable!! As everyone said, it will be work in the beginning, but eventually it will be fantastic and you will love your new addition! I still think the puppy being born on your grandma's DOB is very special. As for me, I had 3 cats. We got them seperately over a few month's time. Our first two were girl cats, and the last we adopted was a cute boy kitten. I had never had a kitten before so it was an awesome experience. Now he is a 10 year old fat cat :) He is the most cuddly, loving cat ever. So I had this weird hope (and i know this is going to sound verrrry irrational) but since we had 2 Girl cats and then a boy cat, and My mother had two girls and then a boy, I am hoping my life will work in the reverse! Two boys like I have and then my daughter. LOL...how weird is that? I'm sure the order/gender of our cats does not influence my life at all, but I am really hoping for the two boys and 1 girl family.

Easter is my birthday this year, so I'll be pigging out, of course I'm not on diet or anything so it doesn't matter! We'll do the dying the eggs for DS1 and hiding the plastic eggs in yard for him too, and then I may convince hubby's grandma to watch the kids so we can out to eat that night just hubby and I alone for a private dinner. Not sure yet about all the plans!

prayforprincess

March 28th, 2012, 10:46 AM

guaranteed a daughter only IF I get pregnant -- that is the hard part.

dramabird

March 28th, 2012, 11:06 AM

And when people say they did not get their bfp til 16dpo, that is most likely not true either. By 14dpo doctors like to see your hcg level near or above 100. Yes there are those with a lower hcg level at 14dpo, but it is likely above 25 and will register on a hpt. So those who say they got there's after 14dpo, got their ovulation all wrong. Many women assume they have 28 days cycles and o on cd14. So when they don't get their bfp til 14 or 15dpo, its usually because they didn't really ovulated til cd17 or something and they are actually getting their bfp on 11dpo. KWIM. With IVF, the common "known" is if you do not get your bfp by 7dp5dt you are 95% out. That is 12dpo. Most girls will get it on either 5, 6 or 7 dp5dt -- so 10, 11 or 12dpo. That is the norm -- so when people say "oh, 12dpo is still too early". Not likely. If you are truly 12 or 13dpo and getting a bfn then you are more than 90% out unless you are the exception to the rule.

I'll tell you what, though ... go to the Fertility Friend website and do a search for charts by "negative HPT before positive HPT" and you'll find a ton of charts where there were neg tests at 11, 12 even 13 dpo ... and then a positive at 14, 15 or 16. And since those gals are tracking the temps, Fertility Friend should have their dpos correct. On the countdown to pregnancy website, it allows that "some early pregnancy tests may work" on starting on 12 dpo, but they really recommend waiting until the day your period is expected. (Now, me, my period usually doesn't come until, like, 17 dpo, and I figure I can test on 14 dpo anyway ... I could be wrong, but it seems like an embryo will still implant generally on the same schedule (anywhere from 6-12 dpo, but 80 percent on 8-10 dpo), regardless of the overall luteal phase length, so waiting that extra three days probably (hopefully) isn't necessary.)

I'm really sorry for the discouragement you're feeling. I can't imagine what it was like to go through the HT issues you've already dealt with. I think those of us who attempt natural swaying are sometimes jealous of the HT girls, as though it's a guaranteed DG, abracadabra. But to go through the physical and emotional challenges of it, plus the cost (which is why no way in H-E-double-hockey-sticks I could eeeeeeever get my DH to even consider it) and then still end up in the same position ... really hard. I'm sorry. :( As to whether or not to return to HT ... I guess you just have to answer the question as to why you made the decision to turn from HT back to natural swaying and see if the answer still applies. If it doesn't, then tackling HT again may be the way to go.

One way or the other, I'm sure you'll do the right thing for you.

prayforprincess

March 28th, 2012, 12:27 PM

just to touch on the ff -- I have noticed though that ff is wrong about o dates a lot of the time. not by much, but by 1-2 days...and often. Not always, but everytime for me I know and I have been charting for months. It is after all, a computer. So if they are wrong by a day or 2 then that would make for most bfp at 11 or 12dpo, sometimes 13dpo and not as often later. I have a 15 day lp too. That does not mean anything for implantation and testing early.

I had to move away from ht because it was too emotionally draining and i needed a break. it was too much hurt to get nothing back in the end but money wasted and emotional despair. i want another baby and if dh was not going to do ht again swaying was my only option to still feel like i had some control over the outcome. dh still does not want to try ht again - in fact, my mother, friends and most importantly dh think i am nuts to try it again. i think i may be too. if it does not work i am going to be emotionally worse off than i am now, and have wasted 2 months of ttc on my own. i just want a baby in my belly so bad but i do want a girl. ????

HopeandDreamG

March 28th, 2012, 07:55 PM

I think FF can be wrong. This cycle it had my O at cd 12 which by my temp it would be correct. I had a u/s that day at had three mature follicles, I did trigger next day which means with certainty I O'd cd 14. I did an override on FF to change O to match trigger. It actually has me wondering if I did O before the u/s and still had 3 mature follies.

On another note, a appreciate everyones thoughts on the puppy. So far so good. I knew she'd b work but I have to say it's as good as could be. I hope your all right that it will feel like I couldn't b without her. Otherwise someone is gonna end up with the best deal ever on a boxer!!!

HopeandDreamG

March 28th, 2012, 08:01 PM

Pfp I talked to dh about HT before I started swaying. I cannot imagine spending the money and not ending up with a baby. Although I would know at least I tried. Sometimes I wonder I my sway doesn't work I would try for HT for #4 but the clock is ticking I am 36. Dear g-d please please bless me with a healthy dd.

_Lala_

March 28th, 2012, 09:40 PM

Well I can't believe I'm having to write this but I'm out. :tissue:
I have been convinced I was pg since ovulation. I have had symptoms that were not just little twinges, or niggles or conjured up in my head but full-on, can't deny symptoms. Constant af like cramps all day n would keep me up at night, a full feeling in low abdomen and constantly look and feel bloated, extreme back ache, base of neck ache, headaches, more cm than usual, tender breasts, vag turning purply (sorry tmi), amazing orgasms (sorry tmi) that always happen when pg, quite gassy, constipated. In the last coupe of days i even had waves of nausea! I never get any of these symptoms before af, so you can imagine I was utterly convinced this was pg for me. What explanation could there be for all of this if not pg? I did 3 hpts, 1 at 9dpo, 11dpo, 12dpo, all neg, which surprised me but I've done a lot of reading up on this n it does appear that many women take a long time to get pos hpt, weeks and months into pg even, so I thought maybe it would show up late. With my last ds I got neg at 11/12dpo n tested week later n was pos.
i can't understand these pg symptoms though. When I got up this morning n went to toilet n wiped, I was all clear. And then about an hour later I had this excruciating pain on my right side which literally made me double over and hold by breath, then 20mins later when went to toilet there was blood. Is it crazy to think it was like an early miscarriage? It would explain having all those pg symptoms and the extreme pain. If not then wtf is going on with my body? Who knows.:confused:

So as you can imagine I'm now utterly devastated. Especially since I was positive I was pg. the worst thing is that cos I thought I was pg I have been off the diet, and I mean really off the diet. Takeaways, eating breakfast, lasagne with mince meat, hot chips, chocolate, arghhh!!!! I'm completely mortified! I have prob gained a kg in this past 2 weeks. Will going hardcore on the diet for 2 weeks for this next cycle be enough to salvage my sway or has it all been ruined? I know I have the willpower to go super low calories but I'm worried my body won't react in time. I don't want to have spent 3 months on le diet, then f%*k up a couple of weeks n get a boy. I feel completely overwhelmed, lost, angry, cheated,devastated. I hate this!:hair:
Please, I need your help girls...:sad:

PeonyPrincess

March 28th, 2012, 10:39 PM

Lala, so sorry to hear you are going through this. I am not surprised you thought you were definitely pg, you had so many symptoms. It is possible that for some reason it was a chemical and it was not able to implant or something. Apparently it is very common, but most people don't notice because AF arrives and they haven't been analysing everything or testing.
Because we are so focused on getting pg, we are more in tune with what is going on with our bodies (at least most are, my body kept confusing me!)
Personally I don't think you have to stress about having been off the diet in the 2WW as I know you are very strict when you put your mind to it. However, you have to always do what you will be ok with and not look back at with regret.
I am sure it will end up happening on a month when you get no symptoms and think you must be out. I think our bodies like to mess with our heads! Hang in there. It sucks that you have to go back on the diet, but it will be worth it in then long term. Hugs.

prayforprincess

March 28th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Ya, this is #4 for me and with c-sections my doctor says that 4 is all i can have -- given the scar tissue and adhesions etc. So, there is no "next time" for me. This is it.
I went to my mother's house for dinner tonight. Had a martini and talked it over with her and my father.
I am doing HT again. Starting on birth control tomorrow morning (as I got my af this afternoon). BC for 2 weeks then am starting my stims again.
I will be here with all of you -- for you are my support. I pray to God this work for me this time. More than anything I pray. This is my last time. And if it does not, then I just don't know. For some unknown reason my lp is short now -- 10-11 days. That is not normal nor has it ever been an issue with me in the past. Up to 2 months ago, my LP was always 14-15 days. Fro the past 2 months it has been 10-11. Not ok when ttc. If I do not do ht then I will have to go on progesterone supplements and do testing, wasting a few months. But if I start ht now, then my lp does not matter because all the drugs I will be taking over-ride everything and control it all. Like my doctors nurse said, doing ivf makes having a short LP null and void.
I feel like it is a sure direction I need to go right now.

PeonyPrincess

March 29th, 2012, 03:13 AM

P4P, wowsers! Good on you for giving it one more shot. At least you know what you are in for, and have weighed up all the pros and cons. All the very best...I will be cheering you on from afar.

Lassie1982

March 29th, 2012, 03:22 AM

so sorry lala :( I understand your pain.
Maybe it was an early miscarriage like you said - hence all your symptoms? I dont know, i dont know if there is anyway to know for sure. BUt try not to drive yourself insane over it. Sadly there is nothing that can be done but to move on.

I'm no expert but i don't think that 2weeks off the diet will have killed your sway overall - but Atomic would probably be the expert on this. Its about overall diet, and 2 weeks out of 15 (3months plus the next 2 weeks) is only 13%, so surely not that significant...

*hugs* chick - really hope you fee better soon and hoping you get your bfp next month

Lassie1982

March 29th, 2012, 03:24 AM

PFP - congrats on the decision. I think its the right one, if you have the money and ability to go HT then then you should :)
Wish we did!
Keep at it, persevere and im sure you will get your little pink bundle.

HopeandDreamG

March 29th, 2012, 08:13 AM

Lala- so sorry you are upset. It's unreal how we have all these symptoms and nothing Ahhhhh, so frustrating it's unbelievable. Like everyone else said it's really the overall pattern that sways. You do need to do what your gut says. Two weeks sounds short but when your on the diet it feels quite longer and you may decide it's enough time given all the months you have been doing it. Those months are not void now! Read Maggie girls sway she did diet for a very short time and got a girl :) your in a even better place having been doing the diet for many weeks before the past two.

PFP- very happy for you. It must be a relief to have the decision. Also great that you can get moving on it so quickly! Good luck to you. Awesome to have that security once you get preggo that IT IS a girl!!! I have a good feeling for you!! Good luck. Please stick around to update us, and for the mutual support! What are the steps you have to take? How long on birth control ? Then what's next? Etc etc !!

prayforprincess

March 29th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Lala -- I am so sorry. I know how hard it is for all this not to work. You have invested so much. Just buckle down and go back on the diet. I don't believe the 2weeks off the diet will really impact anything if you go back on hard core. Especially b/c you have been on it for 3 months. Plus, going back on the diet hard core after cheating will cause you to lose more weight before you o and that will really help your sway. I wish you all the luck next cycle.
I pray for all of us that we see those 2 lines so very soon.

H&D -- I am starting birth control today for two weeks. Then I stop taking bc and get my period again in 2 weeks. Cd2 I start taking the stimulants. My egg retrieval will most likely be 12-13 days later, around the 28th of April. Transfer (if God willing I have healthy girls to transfer) would be 5 days later. Then you generally know if you are pg a week after the transfer.
God I pray this works, I will really melt if it doesn't -- I really don't want to go through that pain again, nor hear my husband bitch about how he knew it wouldn't work.

amari

March 29th, 2012, 01:39 PM

Lala-soo sorry to hear, it is so hard ttc. It makes my heart sink. I hope next cycle is better!

Pfp- that was a ast turn around! It must feel good to be doing something! And eating! Kup with everything. Fx for you!

Hope, any more spotting?

amari

March 29th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Anyone hear from little miss since her u/s??

nks798

March 29th, 2012, 01:48 PM

ladies, this morning I got a faint positive. actually, very faint that my iPhone can't capture a line. so, I made DH take a look and he said he saw a very faint pink line also. I'm really new to testing as far as testing early. with my first pregnancy, we tried for a few months and I had skipped AF once between those months.. so I tested when I was already 9 weeks pregnant. anyway, I'm scared it's an evap line but this faint line appeared at 5 mins. should I test again tomorrow or wait til Saturday? I'm testing Saturday either way.. but I'm more scared than anything right now.

amari

March 29th, 2012, 02:13 PM

Congrats!! How many dpo are you?

nks798

March 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM

amari, thank you but I'm still hesitant.. I'm scared it's an evap line only bc as I said, I'm not very knowledgeable about testing early. I'm either 10/11 DPO. I say that bc I got a +opk one night and a +opk the next day after lunch.

Lassie1982

March 29th, 2012, 03:39 PM

fantastic news nks!!!

dont worry about the earliness of the bfp some women even get bfp's at 8dpo, so i wouldnt say its insanely early. Is the line the same colour as the test line? Evaps are normally grey or shadowy, so id say if its the same colour as the test line then its definitely a bfp!

What sort of test did you use?

auroara78

March 29th, 2012, 03:45 PM

Nks, fantastic news!! Grats!!

PFP, I am so excited for you. This has to work this time. We are all going to pray for you and I believe it WILL happen. This is the path that was meant to be taken. And like Hope and Dreams said, please please keep us updated! I know hardly nothing about HT but I've always been curious, but diving into the HT board is kind of confusing, so you can be our *insider* lady :)

nks798

March 29th, 2012, 03:53 PM

Lassie, I used FRER! I guess I need to test tomorrow morning and see what it looks like then, hopefully darker.

myGirl

March 29th, 2012, 10:07 PM

Lassie, I used FRER! I guess I need to test tomorrow morning and see what it looks like then, hopefully darker.

I have personally never seen an evap line on a FRER. I have seen super super light positives tho! I think you are pregnant!!

Lassie1982

March 30th, 2012, 07:18 AM

I have personally never seen an evap line on a FRER. I have seen super super light positives tho! I think you are pregnant!!

I've heard also that frer don't have evap lines. :fx: let us know how you go!

Lassie1982

March 30th, 2012, 07:23 AM

So I feel like death warmed up.
I'm definitely coming down with a cold/flu.
Will this impact my chances of getting a bfp this month?
I'm just worried that my body will be busy fighting the cold so even if I did conceive it won't stick??

Grrrrrr it's stressing me, plus I'm feeling really rubbish because I don't want to risk taking any cold/flu medication in case I am pregnant. You watch, I'm gonna suffer through this cold without any relief from meds and I'm going to end up with a bfn.

littlemissnaughty7

March 30th, 2012, 07:30 AM

ahhhhhhhhhhh nks i knew you were with all your dreaming congrats huni, and its true you DONT get evap lines with FRER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dramabird

March 30th, 2012, 07:37 AM

nks, congrats! Now, go eat something for the rest of us, okay? :)

NewYorkmom

March 30th, 2012, 07:42 AM

Congrats. I got a positive with First Response early pregnancy tests at 8dpo. I don't think it is too early to test.

dramabird

March 30th, 2012, 07:48 AM

I had a crummy night of sleep, knowing that I was 14dpo this morning and was going to test.

Aaaaaaaaaaand ... bfn. Lame. :p If I had gotten pg this cycle, my due date would have been one day before my birthday ... so I would have squeaked my last baby while I was 33. Gosh, my mom was barely 21 when she had me ... 34 is not quite the same! But ... all in God's plan, hands and timing.

So I need to strategize as I head into cycle 3. I conceived both DS on cycle 2, so this will be uncharted territory for me. Um, yay?

I will be asking some advice on what to change and/or drop this time around. I am hoping you all will be willing to throw in your feedback.

The first thing I need to figure out is timing. First cycle we did abstain with one attempt. Second cycle was abstain with compressed fr -- we got four attempts within 24 hours on that one. So do we drop abstain in favor of fr? Or keep abstain with compressed fr (I do not dare a one shot attempt again) and drop one of the other sperm lowering tactics, like tighty whities or licorice root? Help?

littlemissnaughty7

March 30th, 2012, 08:09 AM

i conceived this cycle on a abstain 1 shot attempt with 3 day cut off, an this was my first month,

littlemissnaughty7

March 30th, 2012, 08:10 AM

sorry for your BFN drama hun i hope this next cycle is your BFP !!!!

nks798

March 30th, 2012, 08:27 AM

thanks ladies.. but line is still very faint this morning. kind of worrying me but I know that hCG levels can take 2-3 days to double. so, I guess I am not out until AF shows her ugly face. DH told me to just wait and test Sunday or Monday.. ugh.. I'm going to TRY to but it's soooo hard to be patient.

dramabird, I hope April is your month!

Lassie, at about 3/4 dpo I ran a little fever.. I even felt lethargic. I hope you get your BFP.

nks798

March 30th, 2012, 08:31 AM

drama, how old is your DH? mine is 25.. and we did abstain.. it was a little less than I wanted.. only 9 days.. bc I freaked out and thought I O'd early.

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 08:40 AM

NKS~ a cautious congrats!!! I'm thinking it sounds really really like a real BFP!! YAY YAY YAY :)

PFP~ thanks for the info!! Good luck, great you can get going right away.

Drama~ Sorry about the BFN, I too wanted to know how old DH is before I give you my opinion.

Lassie~ I have actually heard women think they get a BFP BECAUSE they were ill, AND that would def help your sway. Last month I was sick and it helped me feel better not taking meds that it was helpful to my sway even though I was suffering.

Amari~ How is my cycle buddy and O yet? Your dtd daily still? you must be tired!!

I am wondering if I am going to get a BFP: here's why: I do an injection which triggers O. It makes hpt's positive, so I take one daily and actually watch it get lighter every day. 1dpo is darkest and it gets lighter and lighter everyday (by 7dpo I had the tinest line and 8dpo it was STARK white). Well this cycle it started to fade and get lighter and lighter, but yesterday it was darker then 2 days ago!! Wondering if it means anything? I'm thinking maybe it does, and I have to tell you my first reaction was scared, like holy its gonna be a boy, not excitment about the possibility of a BFP, oy. Thoughts??

littlemissnaughty7

March 30th, 2012, 09:04 AM

H&D why would you think its going to be a boy ?

littlemissnaughty7

March 30th, 2012, 09:06 AM

have you tested this morning H&D ??

auroara78

March 30th, 2012, 10:32 AM

Yeah, H&D, why would you think boy since you if you get preggers you had an awesome sway? :)

Dramabird, sorry about BFN...I hope we can discuss strategies going into your 3rd cycle!

amari

March 30th, 2012, 10:56 AM

Hope-doesnt that mean you got a bfp?!!

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 11:04 AM

Doesn't mean anything definite. Could be the meds are still in my system. Just surprised it was darker. I have been testing mid day I guess bc I did the injection mid day so each day after its another 24 hrs later. Will let u know soon what the hpt looks like today.

I thought boy because I am nuts! Nothing to do with my sway!!

prayforprincess

March 30th, 2012, 11:48 AM

PFP, I am so excited for you. This has to work this time. We are all going to pray for you and I believe it WILL happen. This is the path that was meant to be taken. And like Hope and Dreams said, please please keep us updated! I know hardly nothing about HT but I've always been curious, but diving into the HT board is kind of confusing, so you can be our *insider* lady :)

I will keep you updated. I should know if I am pregnant the weekend of Mother's day. Wouldn't that just be the most amazing gift?!?
I am not going to dive into the ht forum. If I do I will get too consumed and I wanna take a step back and really try to relax this cycle and get everything somewhat out of mind.
I will be checking in on all of you and of course updating my cycle (my retrieval and transfer and of course if I get a bfp!).

nks798 -- I am so happy for you. Post your sway I would love to read it.

Mochagirl

March 30th, 2012, 11:50 AM

Hope I'm praying this is your BFP! :pray:

amari

March 30th, 2012, 11:50 AM

hope-You are 9dpo I think this is it for you! I really do!!!!

prayforprincess

March 30th, 2012, 11:52 AM

Hope - I think its a bfp! 10 days after you take the trigger it is 100% outta your body. If you are getting a dark line at 9dpo, that is more than likely a bfp because the htp would either be bfn or just about bfn. A dark line is definitely a +. I am happy for you!
Seems like March has been good to all you ladies. Congrats!

amari

March 30th, 2012, 12:22 PM

So, I know we have to keep bs down in 2ww and stick to diet b/c I don't think I will get a bfp this month anyways, but I am soooo hungry. How close to the diet are you staying in the 2ww? I feel so defeated even though I am only 1 or 2dpo, if I even let an egg go at all.

coocoobananas

March 30th, 2012, 12:28 PM

Amari I stuck to no breakfast in the intent to be good that day but failed miserably! I wasn't sure I wanted to go another month so I think that is why I slacked! But I'm going for it! I did try to not overeat but I definately went way off the plan! I think cause I was thinking after the 1st 6 weeks I would get to stop... I think I needed it to get through honestly!

prayforprincess

March 30th, 2012, 01:48 PM

If you can at least stick to low glucose (like 2 meals a day) and keeping your calories 1800 or under you will be fine and can jump right back on the wagon strict again if you get the dreaded bfn or af arrives.

dramabird

March 30th, 2012, 02:15 PM

Drama~ Sorry about the BFN, I too wanted to know how old DH is before I give you my opinion.

Oh yes, good question -- DH is 34 and will turn 35 in June.

I would love advice and strategy. Thanks to all of you very much in advance!!

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 03:29 PM

1838

This was from 10am and 12pm at 8dpo. Last cycle the trigger was totally gone by 8dpo, so I am thinking maybe yes its a positive, but todays at 12 is lighter then yesterdays at 12. Well I have blood test on Wednesday will know for sure, and I'll keep testing and see if line gets lighter or darker!

Drama~ We have tball soon , i'll be back on after dinner and activities to talk about ideas for next month!

Lassie1982

March 30th, 2012, 05:43 PM

Congrats Hope! Certainly looks like a BFP - i really dont know much about the meds and the effects, but im thinking this is a real BFP for you, congrats!!

Amari - Im with you on struggling through the 2ww with no breakfast - just try and stick it out, I think i remember AS saying that the low glucose is one of the actual proven things to sway, so if you have conceived a little girl she probably really needs the low glucose! Make up for it by giving yourself little cheats when you do eat. Good look :fx:

dramabird, so sorry about the bfn. Maybe drop the liqurice root and the tighties so that your not reducing the sperm count too much? Thats what we'll be dropping next..

nks - stay positive! Im sure AF wont show :)

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 07:11 PM

Dramabird- what about frequent starting cd 1. Dtd at +opk through O. You can even dtd 2 x's a day day after +opk. How many licorice root is dh taking ? I dropped from 2 to 3 this cycle. It stays in their system even after they stop taking. Are you using jellies? Bc I would drop that before frequent/abstain or compressed frequent. Bc it is not even known if ph sways but lower sperm count does!

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 07:12 PM

Thanks lassie but I'm not really sure yet. Used today as a cheat day. I feel guilty already but will go strict again tomorrow just in case!

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 07:13 PM

Hope I'm praying this is your BFP! :pray:

Thank you!!! I'm hoping it's pink too ;)

amari

March 30th, 2012, 08:07 PM

Yay, hope!!!!!! Did it go neg then +? ARe you so excited??? So tentatively happy for you but I do think this is it, wahoo!!

HopeandDreamG

March 30th, 2012, 09:23 PM

Amari- never went negative that's why I'm not so sure. Tomorrow will be telling. I totally over ate today. Will go back 100% tomorrow through Wednesday when I will know for sure. Thinking all the extra calories today may help move my metabolism anyway and will make it easier to lose weight again (hopefully won't need to!) but really unsure. I didn't eat meat but about everything else. Yikes. I know one day doesn't matter. It will help me b super strict for the next month if need b!
Where r u with your attempt?

Kraisy- how r u?

amari

March 30th, 2012, 09:44 PM

I'm about 2dpo if I actually O'd! I don't feel hopeful, don't know why. but I will try and hope anyways. skipping breakfast, not snacking and sticking to diet for most part but upping cals a bit myself during 2ww, I just need to for sanity and hunger sake!

_Lala_

March 30th, 2012, 11:09 PM

Hope - YAY!!! That is surely a BFP!!:running:Fabulous news, congrats!
Drama - sorry about the BFN, keep your head up. I would maybe drop the amount of LR DH is taking, I think it affects them quite a lot, particularly being in his mid 30s.
Amari - 2ww sux! Do the best you can. I too read that keeping BS low is important, so stick to 2/3 meals a day.
i am on CD3 and back hardcore on the diet. Ov seems soo far away right now!

amari

March 31st, 2012, 07:12 AM

drama-sorry about bfn. I agree about the lr. We dropped it, even thought this was technically our first month ttc on the sway since I hyper stimmed last time. I just felt like it was too much with dh being 42 and it was too hard for him to fr for like 2weeks straight and the lr!

lala-thanks, I know every day seems like an eternity in the whole ttc world, doesn't it?! GL this month!!

amari

March 31st, 2012, 07:28 AM

Hi, girls. I am feeling like I am at a crossroads and not knowing what to do. Technically this is my first month ttc while swaying though for the most part I have been on the LE diet since November. Exceptions are I had a bit of cheating while in Mexico in December and I also went off for a week or so to gain some weight and ate some major food. But we didn't attempt in Dec b/c I thought I shouldn't do to the cheats, then January I hyperstimmed and couldn't attempt, February I had to take off due to that so here I am in March with our first attempt and not really happy about how it went down. So, 5 months of this with one not so great attempt. For me, a lot of unhappiness because I am not going about life the way I want to, not eating when I want, not eating what I want, not socializing how I want, low energy, not generally a happy person due to grumpiness, not lifting weights/exercising. I feel so restricted and restrained which is making me feel resentful towards everyone and not joyful.

What I don't know, is I have put so much into this, if I stop now it will all be in vain, but if I keep going I will continue to be unhappy. Dh wants me to just stop and because he believes things come to you when you are not attached to the outcome, which I believe too, but then I wouldn't be swaying, and the way I eat and the frequency I eat we all know I would end up with a boy. I suggested doing it half way for another month, like keeping veg for another month and keeping protein down but not freaking out if I pop something in my mouth when it is not my allotted eating time, and things like that, but he thinks I will still be attached to the outcome that way. I don't know, I just really don't know what to do. I know I have to make the decision myself, usually I know what I want, and I want a dg so badly, but I don't want to be a miserable bitch and basically get her at my dh's or kids expense either. I wish I hadn't missed out on Dec, Jan, and Feb while on this diet b/c I has really taken a toll on me.

HopeandDreamG

March 31st, 2012, 08:29 AM

Amari- if you attempted dec you'd be doubting that decision too and fearing u didn't do everything you could. I am right there with you since November and sickness etc made my first attempt february. I wonder if there is someway to continue the sway but also figure out how to meet your need for relaxation and socialization while swaying. Like light walks instead of major exercise to reduce stress, allow for some cheats for going out. Basically not making the sway all or nothing. Fwiw: I conceived a girl lifting and doing cardio but losing major weight, dh was also releasing daily. I was not swaying. I'm rambling bc I don't like to hear your down and frustrated. My main point is something AS always says: swaying has to fit your lifestyle not the other way around. How about focus/think about ways to do this without being stressed, come up with a few ideas post them and we can all give u feedback! If you want obviously!!!

nks798

March 31st, 2012, 10:30 AM

amari, I totally feel you. Although I have only been on the le diet since end of January. It feels like an eternity and I have basically isolated myself from everything. Can't do lunch dates or go out to eat with my girlfriends. Not like I used to. Subway and Wendy's are getting old. I feel like I'm going insane lol my DH tells me to get off of it and let God do His will. But I feel like all I've done would be in vain if I don't really have a BFP and quit now.

I know I said I got a BFP but idk anymore as my lines are still faint and I'm basically disappointed and wish I hadn't gotten my hopes up so early and jumping the gun thinking I'm pregnant. Truth is I just feel depressed and stressed. I guess I'm not cut out to do the LE diet for long. At this point, I really just want a baby and although I firmly believe in the LE diet and everything atomic has researched/taught me.. Maybe I'm just not cut out for it.

So what I'm saying is do what is best for you and your family. I know where you are coming from exactly and support you 100% girl bc I'm really really starting to think about it all myself and how much longer I can keep isolating myself and being unhappy. But truth is good things come to those who wait and it could pay off. Very hard decision to make.

KraizyDaizy

March 31st, 2012, 10:36 AM

Cd10& we started our DTD today. Since I took my Clomid on cd3-7 against the instructions on my script for cd5-9, I am hoping I might O earlier? I decided not to stress DH with all my swaying/OPK testing, so this am it was just nice to enjoy our time together. He is like are we going to try this month and I said sure, but with no pressure at all. He is ready or maybe he just wants sex LOL!!!! Still no +OPK, but at least we have started trying!

coocoobananas

March 31st, 2012, 12:51 PM

Amari I could have written this the other day! I am back on the diet but am not going to be as hardcore because I can't! I feel my body has changed enough that I have a shot! I only want to try til may, I don't know why I just needed a goal! Of course if I'm not pregnant I am not sure how easy it would be to go from going for a 3rd and then just quitting!
I feel the same about all of this in vain! I think I would have stopped trying til the winter so I could have a great summer ( not sick) if I hadn't put so much work into it!!
Can you give yourself a time line and slowly ease off a bit each month or would you have regrets?
I definately have cheats when I socialize because since I can't exercise I need something to make me happy in life!!
This is such a confusing journey for me because I am do afraid to make the wrong decision in every scenario! I'm very glad I am not alone in all this!
I hope you can find peace with this! I know my head has cleared a bit the last couple days so maybe a few sleeps will help you find some clarity in what I'd beat for you and your fam:)

coocoobananas

March 31st, 2012, 12:53 PM

Best for you... Not beat!!! Darn auto correct and tiny phone! If I say anything lead weird it is due to this... Or lack of breakfast;)

HopeandDreamG

March 31st, 2012, 03:06 PM

My lines are still there not as dark 9 dpo today. Wondering if it's the meds or a positive! Really not sure.

Amari I had another thought. What about giving it one more month and ask your doctor for a ovidrel injection. You WILL then O and know exactly WHEN which would take so much pressure off of you and for dh releasing. You will know exactly when attempts start and diet after this month if you get a bfn, and if u diet in 2 ww the diet will b only 2 weeks more. (kinda, iykwim)

HopeandDreamG

March 31st, 2012, 03:07 PM

Kraisy- good luck with your attempts!

littlemissnaughty7

March 31st, 2012, 03:58 PM

H&D do you know for sure how many dpo it can take for the medication to be out of your system ? just because its lighter it doesnt mean you are not pregnant im sure every single test doesnt act the exact same as each other test, plus you may have been more hydrated at the time of this test ?

mydream

March 31st, 2012, 04:09 PM

Starting attempts again... Due to Ovulate in the next few days !!! I hope this is it!!!

mydream

March 31st, 2012, 06:24 PM

Hope - I am keeping my fingers crossed it stays positive !!!!
Drama - sorry for BFN... Sending you Positive thoughts for a BFP soon!

We need a TTC April thread... Hoping we ALL get our BFP

amari

March 31st, 2012, 06:41 PM

hope-I hope it stays + for you, when is the blood test? Thanks for the advice, I am pretty off the wagon today. I skipped breakfast and then had normal lunch at 11 then at 4 I had a lot of foods I shouldn't have and I think I will be doing it again this evening. I think I just need to do this for a few days. I don't know, maybe I will do this for one more month and then stop all together for the summer? Start again in the winter? Thought that sways boy. I don't know. I'm still really lost. I just know I can't do this all summer. My dh just wants me to still roll the dice. I am so lost.

Kd-I'm interested to see if you O earlier on day3-7, maybe i'll try this next time!

dream-gl on your attempts!

HopeandDreamG

March 31st, 2012, 07:13 PM

Littlemiss~ I think for most people the meds are out of their system in 10 days. Which is today for me (9dpo, and 10 days after trigger), and its still showing positive. Last cycle it was out of my system by 7dpo/8 days after the injection. However, I don't think I can go by that bc I looked on line and a few women had different experiences each month. I am really unsure. I'm going to do a little more research maybe start a threat on HT board.

Amari~ The blood test is Wednesday, I will write STAT on it (LOL) so I will know Wednesday afternoon. I really think if this month you get a BFN you should give it at least one more month. I don't know where you live but beach season doesn't start till memorial day. March, April & May are prime months that I wouldn't waste. I think giving up for the summer months makes sense, enjoy the beach, grilling etc. Your no better conceiving a girl (season wise mid summer or mid winter)

Thank you to everyone who has their fingers crossed for me! I'm hoping because I said I was going to go back on the diet today after cheating yesterday, and I am soooo hungry I ate off the diet again, popcorn, pretzels, and chocolate watching a movie with the kids two hours before I normally eat. Ahhhh, I will be really upset with myself if its a BFN.