Pink swayers' December thread

Sorry, lemon - I've never used a CBFM, so I have no idea!

Z - thanks for the advice. You're right - if I'm stressed about it, that's not going to help anything and might actually hurt my sway. I did take another OPK just now and it still isn't anywhere near +, but this pain in my left ovary has been strong all day! Maybe I'll get dh to release soon then I can always change my mind about dtd later - he needs to release either way, right? I might just use a teeny finger of rephresh though - just in case O is on the verge of happening, I don't want to kill all the spermies! If I do it right now it will be 4 hours before our attempt. Do you think that's ok? I really, really want to get pregnant this cycle....

Zan....since you are so helpful!!!!! We dtd this am and there was not much to the attempt at all. DH had a hard time keeping it up and in there...I am truly sorry this is TMI for SURE! He just does not release this much ever!
So, do you think we shld go again tonight or just leave it. We have lots in there from 0-2...and then whatever came out today....0 day! Just like mocha...i want to get pg!

Mocha...i think you need to start dtd...besides you are travelling on Thursday and they all need to be in there!
You hardly eat anything and you have 3 boys and Christmas....so stop stressing and start dtd!
I don't think he needs to release again before you dtd....if you are clearly not oing tomorrow it probably won't matter and if anything, it might make it harder closer to o...take it from me!

Again Z, how much came out of DH when you conceived,.....seems like a long shot for me!
But, my eggs are old....! groan!
And how much rephresh????

Mocha...you would now how much you used when you did not get pregnant...would this hurt your chances?
Maybe use a little?
Did you use the whole tube when it did not get you pregnant?

I hope we all get BFPs and girlies like Zan:)

Lemon - I've never used a whole tube of rephresh close to O - only when I'm far away from my fertile period. I usually squirt about half a tube onto my finger and insert it that way - every 3 days. That's what I was doing for the 3 months in the summer when I wasn't able to get pregnant.

So...I updated on the swayers over 35 board, but I did end up putting some rephresh in, but by the time I did it it was only about 3 hours until our attempt. I also ended up using more than I intended - maybe 1/2 a tube. Now I'm worried I've ruined our chances of getting pregnant if O is indeed about to happen. I think maybe I won't get dh to release first after all and rely on our 6 days of daily release + 1/2 tube of rephresh to lower his sperm count. I'm definitely not jumping and dumping, either. I've taken zyrtec and might also pop a benedryl closer to BD time.

If O is still a few days away, hopefully the rephresh will have run its course and by then dh's sperm count will be low enough on its own for us to dtd without it. What do you all think? Have I messed up my sway?

I find this all confusing because I know that when reading about rephresh it says it is it safe to use while TTC but I know a lot of ladies here say it can really hurt your chances. I used a whole tube yesterday afternoon and then DTD last night and this afternoon, so did I perhaps ruin my chances of conceiving?

I know, it IS confusing, isn't it?? Technically, rephresh is fine for TTC. Many women, including our own lovely Zanacal, have gotten pregnant while using tons of it. The fact is TTC is a gamble no matter what we do, and I think we all want to blame something for not getting our BFP.

For me personally, my BFP cycle last September came after I changed only one thing in my sway: I dropped the rephresh. The BFP may have had nothing to do with dropping the rephresh, but I've made that connection in my mind, which is why I'm leary of it.

That being said, you're young and likely a lot more fertile than me (I'm 37). I wouldn't worry about having used it, but if you don't get your BFP this cycle you could try to change it up and either not use it at all or use less of it.

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

I know, it IS confusing, isn't it?? Technically, rephresh is fine for TTC. Many women, including our own lovely Zanacal, have gotten pregnant while using tons of it. The fact is TTC is a gamble no matter what we do, and I think we all want to blame something for not getting our BFP.

For me personally, my BFP cycle last September came after I changed only one thing in my sway: I dropped the rephresh. The BFP may have had nothing to do with dropping the rephresh, but I've made that connection in my mind, which is why I'm leary of it.

That being said, you're young and likely a lot more fertile than me (I'm 37). I wouldn't worry about having used it, but if you don't get your BFP this cycle you could try to change it up and either not use it at all or use less of it.

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I think it's exactly this - chances are those on here who have boys had "better than average" fertility anyway so it can be a shock when lower fertility means it takes longer to conceive, and it's normal for AVERAGE fertility couples to take 6 months to conceive even if timing BD right around OV... and for pink swaying we're lowering fertility through diet, etc.
I definitely don't think RepHresh would prevent pregnancy, I think it taking longer to conceive is just a sign of a sway working.... frustrating as that is!

Thanks ladies! I get what you both are saying, I think it's hard also because it's my first cycle and I'm not sure if I'm doing too much or not enough but like you said if I don't get my BFP I can change some things next cycle.

This morning was a little strange again as my strip was VERY positive and the clear blue was negative again. I went and dug out the instructions and they clear blue definitely says to use first morning urine (not exclusively but it says it is usually best) but it seems to not catch it with first morning urine. I'm going to take another this afternoon and then I might stop because I'm pretty sure I Oed yesterday. I had light cramping Sunday night and then last night before going to bed my left ovary (or at least where it is located) had a few sharp pains and I've been bloating (which I'm not sure if bloating is a normal O symptom but I've noticed over the last year of tracking my cycle to TNTC that I bloat every time I ovulate).

So....we did end up having an attempt last night. I'm glad we did it, even though I think O may still take a few days to arrive. I think it's better to be safe than sorry, and I don't want to be continually worrying I missed our egg. I used 1/2 tube of rephresh maybe 3 hours before the attempt and I also took a zyrtec, so I didn't bother having dh release beforehand - I decided to rely on his 6 days of release + those other factors to lower his sperm count. I hope that was enough!

My cervix is even more open today but the cramping has stopped for now. I'm going to try my best to do at least 2, maybe 3 opks a day to watch for my surge, but I find it sooooooo hard to have more than one concentrated pee sample a day with all the liquids I'm drinking (3 cups peppermint tea a day, 2 cups RRL tea, up to 3 cups CL/Diet Pepsi). Anyone have any advice on how to do this? Normally I only have coffee in the morning then wait until about 1pm to do an OPK, then I start drinking all my stuff for the rest of the afternoon/evening...but if I want to get an early evening OPK in there how should I time my drinks? I did do one with FMU this morning, and it was -, but it was just an ic and I don't think you're supposed to use those with FMU.

Anyway, I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as we keep dtd and temping so I know when O has come and gone. Still praying it's going to come in the next 2 days....

I wanted to add I had a strange dream last night. I was already pregnant and for some reason around someone with an ultrasound machine. I knew in my dream that I was 15 weeks and I told them I found out the sex with both my boys at 15 weeks (which is true) and begged them to take a look. I didn't even lay down I was standing there and pulled up my shirt and when they did the ultrasound I could see boy parts clear as day. So I was sad and trying to find a way to cope.

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So....we did end up having an attempt last night. I'm glad we did it, even though I think O may still take a few days to arrive. I think it's better to be safe than sorry, and I don't want to be continually worrying I missed our egg. I used 1/2 tube of rephresh maybe 3 hours before the attempt and I also took a zyrtec, so I didn't bother having dh release beforehand - I decided to rely on his 6 days of release + those other factors to lower his sperm count. I hope that was enough!

My cervix is even more open today but the cramping has stopped for now. I'm going to try my best to do at least 2, maybe 3 opks a day to watch for my surge, but I find it sooooooo hard to have more than one concentrated pee sample a day with all the liquids I'm drinking (3 cups peppermint tea a day, 2 cups RRL tea, up to 3 cups CL/Diet Pepsi). Anyone have any advice on how to do this? Normally I only have coffee in the morning then wait until about 1pm to do an OPK, then I start drinking all my stuff for the rest of the afternoon/evening...but if I want to get an early evening OPK in there how should I time my drinks? I did do one with FMU this morning, and it was -, but it was just an ic and I don't think you're supposed to use those with FMU.

Anyway, I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as we keep dtd and temping so I know when O has come and gone. Still praying it's going to come in the next 2 days....

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I think it was a great idea to have your attempt. And what you did sounds very similar to mine DH missed a day of release before our attempt so I used a whole tube of rephresh 3-4 hours before and took antihistamine before our attempt. In my amateur opinion I think you did great to make up to lower his sperm count especially considering it wasn't right on O day.

The drink problem is the issue I always have and why I usually take my OPKs with FMU. Maybe just drink what you are going to directly after you take one OPK and then don't drink again until after you take the next OPK. So divide the drink up semi evenly except perhaps drink a little more after you take your last OPK for the day. I'm really not sure I'm looking to see what advice you get.

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

So....we did end up having an attempt last night. I'm glad we did it, even though I think O may still take a few days to arrive. I think it's better to be safe than sorry, and I don't want to be continually worrying I missed our egg. I used 1/2 tube of rephresh maybe 3 hours before the attempt and I also took a zyrtec, so I didn't bother having dh release beforehand - I decided to rely on his 6 days of release + those other factors to lower his sperm count. I hope that was enough!

My cervix is even more open today but the cramping has stopped for now. I'm going to try my best to do at least 2, maybe 3 opks a day to watch for my surge, but I find it sooooooo hard to have more than one concentrated pee sample a day with all the liquids I'm drinking (3 cups peppermint tea a day, 2 cups RRL tea, up to 3 cups CL/Diet Pepsi). Anyone have any advice on how to do this? Normally I only have coffee in the morning then wait until about 1pm to do an OPK, then I start drinking all my stuff for the rest of the afternoon/evening...but if I want to get an early evening OPK in there how should I time my drinks? I did do one with FMU this morning, and it was -, but it was just an ic and I don't think you're supposed to use those with FMU.

Anyway, I suppose in the end it doesn't matter as long as we keep dtd and temping so I know when O has come and gone. Still praying it's going to come in the next 2 days....

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Yeah im either going to try to test 2x for+opk this time one in the morning and middle of day,I always or strangeley get a + in the afternoon though but im not beleiving i will o any time near them though as i dont beleive they are reliable with me anyways.But i was going to suggest if your not already to pee in a cup and dip your tests ,as this might be more concentrated that way.And usually i have coffe in the morning then through the day my diet cokes and crystal light and evening peppermint tea,,but i have only 1 or 2 peppermint if any?

Thanks, Jamie. I feel much more relaxed now about the whole thing, so I think it was the right decision for me.

Thanks, sweetsister. I already pee in a cup and test that way - even with the mid****** tests. I like to always have the sample ready to retest with a digi if the results are ambiguous....

Mocha, I'm glad you DTD so at least you have some peacefulness about it, and less worry, I still hope O will come early...will you be DTDing tongiht too just in case? or skip tonight?

I also have made the connection (whether right or wrong) that Represh prevented me from concieving last month. It may very well have been something else totally, but I can't help to think the ph change really slowed or confused DH's swimmers. But then again, we did only BD one time, but it was directly on O day, so who really knows? Rephresh is easy for me to blame, esp. considering how it irrirated me so badly down there!

Jamie, sorry about the strange dream about seeing the boy bits :(
A part of my problem is that I did have the U/S dream that showed a girl and I was so gloriously happy in my dream. I never dreamed girl or boy pregnant with my boys or even before hand, and all of sudden, I have such serene girl vibes, I'm worried I'm being lured into "easing off" my sway, and that somehow my gut feeling of getting a "girl" will ruin my sway.

Jamie, are you in the camp that you feel that since you've had two boys it'd be almost impossible to get a girl? Or are you in the camp that you feel that since you've had two boys, you could be destined to get the girl? I'm the latter camp, but I'm not sure how much of it is true or how much of it is wishful thinking....(remember that song..."I'm the king of wishful thinking..." I'm the Queen of it!)

Jen, are you still going to test on Christmas day at 10 dpo? Did FF change crosshairs again? Do you feel anything possibly preggy-like?

rainbowflower, I read your post about crosshairs....u don't think you really O'ed yet, right?

Lemon, I'm glad you DTD again! Good job! :cheer:

sometimes FF can be so frustrating!

I'm fairly sure we'll dtd tonight...and probably every night until I O at this point. I now have some rephresh in there, which will last another couple of days, so I want to get some more sperm in there to up my chances of pregnancy. I also might just use zyrtec instead of my usual benedryl/zyrtec combo...at least until I've gotten to 72 hours post-rephresh.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that my cervix is definitely SHOW today and I have a ton of ewcm.

Here I go, going back and forth again on the represh issue! Now I'm thinking maybe I will just use it one time (a full applicator) and get a few attempts in....

I'm starting to get some signs of O coming up, getting some dull aches on left side and well the CM is more abundant, but not EW or stretchy at all...hoping the diet will curb some of the EWCM that I usually get tons of.

I keep telling everyone that I'm ready for next week to get here all ready and they all look at me funny, like, What about Christmas? I just want this work week to be over so that I can start DTD'ing later this week!! I am definitely planning more than one attempt, I would love to DTD like rabbits (ala Jen) but we'll see....

I still have to procue a stupid jeresy for my husband....I've asked him if he really, really wants that, and he's given me the look like, 'really? do you not love me'...I may have to buy my husband's body with a freaking jersey! I got a feeling if I don't give him what he really wants for Christmas he may not be in the mood to DTD!

On a side note, does anyone know what store I could purchase a good, solid back scratcher from? Hubby wants one but doesn't want a cheapie that's going to break.

auroara - that was sort of what I ended up doing - a one-time rephresh application when I'm still (probably) a little away from O, but I doubt I'll use it again before O comes. If O doesn't come early, we'll definitely be doing it like bunnies.

I know what you mean about just wanting to get on with your attempt. I can't tell you how much better I felt after we dtd yesterday - at least I feel like I'm doing SOMETHING now instead of just waiting.

Well, I got a definite negative OPK at 1pm after not drinking anything or peeing for 4 hours. O is definitely coming - my cervix is wide open, extremely soft, and I have TONS of EWCM, but it's starting to look like this cycle will be similar to past ones where I have O signs for many days before it actually comes :(.

I'm CD 11 today, and we leave for our trip on CD13. I have a feeling I'll O sometime between CD14 and 16 if my past cycles are any indication. Still send me your early O vibes,ladies - I'd really like to be done with our attempts before Thursday! What I'm hoping for is a cycle like I had last August, which was the earliest O I've ever recorded - I started having ewcm on CD10, same as this cycle, got my +OPK on CD12 (which would be tomorrow), then O'd on CD13, which would be the day of our trip - if we BD the night before that, I'd be satisfied with our attempt - it would be 3DBO, 2DBO and 1DBO. :pray:

Here's hoping for a CD13 O for you Mocha!! :cheerteam:

Oh, I really hope so...I just wish my OPK was a BIT darker today, but it's still pretty faint. I only have 2 digis left and want to save them for when my tests are a bit darker, but I keep remembering that once when I got a +digi my ICs were still nowhere close to +. I'm going to try to hold out using them until tomorrow - if I use them up before O actually happens, I'll have to buy a whole new box and those things are waaaaayyyy too spendy.

Auroara, I definitely don't feel that I can't have a girl. And before I found this site I really just felt like my next child would be a girl and I'm not even really sure why. But then I started to think maybe I'm being too confident and decided to look into ways to tip the odds a little more. I really didn't read the dream as meaning (in all my dream reading expertise :) ) I would have either sex. To me it was more about stopping myself from being afraid to admit I will have some level of sadness if my next child is a boy. I've really been afraid to say it and have been saying that I am swaying for a girl but I will not be sad if it's another boy. I have felt like admitting that would be wrong. But I needed to realize my emotions aren't wrong and it won't change the love I have for any future sons I may have.

So I finally heard from my doctor's office, and it's official...my miscarriage is complete. My u/s showed that my uterus is completely clear and I already know from Friday's results that my HCG is zero. Phew! It's so nice to know things are back to normal.

So many posts,.,...so little time!
The kids are acting up and it is almost bedtime...but for anyone out there...what should I do!

I agree with Jamie...I am a rephresh newbie! I think I used too much. Maybe 3 tubes in a week...is that bad?
Of course, I bd cd 9, 10, 11, 12, twice on cd 14...o day I thought.
So, now I am cd 15...still EW, and super dark super postiive OPK..usually I get these super dark ones on peak day so I think for once instead of oing in the afternoon I od overnight....???
Not sure!
Do I have to bd again?
It would be o or maybe o plus a few hours.
What do you guys think?
It is hard on DH and I with so much to do and we are soooo tired!
We work until the 23rd and we are ready to be home and get things ready for Christmas.

Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!
Seriously, maybe since you are so awesome with the diet (incredible!) and you are swaying after a mc (which is not easy but might sway girl), and you are so careful with your bding I think you have all the right sways so you need to get pregnant! I believe girl for sure for you!

Auroara, are you going to have more than one attempt?
Did I over do it? UGH!
I bet I am not pregnant after all that wonderful bding....(insert sarcasm).

Do I have to go again today?
DH thinks there was actually sperm in there yesterday but it was o day or 0 minus a few hours.
Should I get more in there?


PS: does anyone feel pressure in their butt,...(sorry if tmi but I figure this is the place to ask!) or actually feel and see if it is swollen down there?
I am just wondering if there is something wrong with me. I get wicked o pains as well, the last thing I want to do is have sex.

Thanks everyone!
The moon is new too:)

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Originally Posted by lemon2012

Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!
Seriously, maybe since you are so awesome with the diet (incredible!) and you are swaying after a mc (which is not easy but might sway girl), and you are so careful with your bding I think you have all the right sways so you need to get pregnant! I believe girl for sure for you!

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Thanks, lemon :HH: If I don't O in the next two days, I'll be shocked. My cervix is open so wide a truck could drive through there, I have horrible cramps and I've become an ewcm factory. There's so much that in combination with the cramps, I started to think maybe my period was coming back until I checked just to make sure. There's so much ewcm I think I might have to pop a benedryl tonight in combo with my zyrtec. I hope this is a sign of the super fertility you're supposed to have after a m/c!

I feel fed up! I don't know what my body is doing, don't know when/if I've OVed thanks to weird temps... we're not getting much BD in (well, none) because DH is ill.. I feel like we're out already this cycle before we even had a chance to start. :(
my OPKs don't even seem to be starting to fade in yet.. unless I've missed that and it happened pre-CD10

I'm sorry, rainbow. I know how frustrating a wonky cycle can be. :HH:

If you did miss an early O, did you get any attempts in then?

I can't figure out what's going on with my temperature. Anyone here ever get an ovulation dip? My temp keeps going down and down - that's never happened to me before O - I hope this means O's about to happen!

DH and I had another attempt last night. I still have tons of EWCM, cramps and cervix is SHOW. I'm really praying I get that +OPK today. I used an ic with FMU, but it was negative. I'm going to hold my pee all morning and take a better test around 1. :fx:

After all my talk about skipping rephresh this attempt, I'm actually considering adding it back in. I used 1/2 tube 2 nights ago a few hours before dtd because we hadn't finished our FR plan. Now, 2 days later, I'm thinking of using another fingerful to top up what's in there. It's just that I have sooooo much ewcm and even when I take both zyrtec and benedryl it doesn't seem to touch it, so I'm worried with that and without 7 days of frequent release my chances of a boy are still quite high. What do all think?

Mocha if we did miss OV we either got a BD in on OV day or 2 days before (depending when my crosshairs move to)

I used to get an ovulation dip EVERY CYCLE and it would last 2-3 days as well... it was really handy. I haven't noticed it to the same extent lately.

do you normally get a fade-in on OPKs?

I've been MIA the past few days b/c it's been so busy around here and I have not caught up on posts from the past few days :oops: but I just saw your post Mocha, so I'm just jumping right in...

I think you are gettting very close to O'ing...I usually get a dip like that (you can check my charts) so it's normal for me. I really hope you do O todayish! Regarding the RepHresh, if it feels right, use it. My :twocents: would be to not do a J&D right away if you do use it. You're probably swaying enough so letting the stuff hang out a bit won't hurt IMO. Hope this helps!!!:HH: :pinksperm: :cheer:

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Originally Posted by rainbowflower

Mocha if we did miss OV we either got a BD in on OV day or 2 days before (depending when my crosshairs move to)

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Aren't moving crosshairs just so annoying!?!

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Mocha....just dtd every day until you leave and then add in a mile high and an in law bathroom break...lol!

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:agree:...lol!

That's great that you got some attempts in just in case you had an early O. At this point would your best case scenario be to get crosshairs for one of those early days?

Check out my chart (in my siggy) - is this what your ovulation dip usually looks like? My temp this morning was actually even lower than that at the normal time - I took the temp on the chart when I was up with the kids about 30 minutes earlier than my normal time, then when I took my temp at the normal time just for the heck of it, it was .6 degrees lower! I decided to use the first temp since I hadn't been up and around before taking it. I was just surprised about that second one because I thought if you'd been up and moving before taking your temp it would go UP not down.

I usually get a bit of a fade-in on my OPKs, but the tests from yesterday and this morning are still quite faint. If I went by my usual patterns of OPKs (and disregard the crazy fertility signs my body's giving me) I would think I might still be days away from O. I'm hoping, though, that with the m/c my hormones might be slightly different and I will be surprised by a sudden +OPK instead of having to wait days longer.

Did you have massive amounts of ewcm in the first cycles after m/c?

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Jen, are you still going to test on Christmas day at 10 dpo? Did FF change crosshairs again? Do you feel anything possibly preggy-like?

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It's still my plan to test at 10 (or 12???) dpo on Christmas morning. Yesterday, I was feeling some things but today, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and thinking I'm out but it's still fun to analyze and over-analyze everything, lol! If I have to do this darn 2ww over a few more times, I’ll probably just be :hide: until it’s testing time. I'm kind of feeling like I want to hide today, lol.

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Regarding the RepHresh, if it feels right, use it. My :twocents: would be to not do a J&D right away if you do use it.

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Yeah, I don't plan on doing a J&D. Last night I was going to get up 5 minutes after dtd to do a J&D, but I fell asleep for awhile (damn benedryl!) so I'm not sure how long I left it. That's one of the things that started getting me worried about my sway, since that's how I conceived all my boys - just falling asleep after dtd and letting everything stay in there until morning. Maybe I will put in a fingerful of rephresh now - it'll be about 12 hours before our attempt, so hopefully that's far enough away to not kill all the sperm. It won't affect the sperm that are already in there, right?

Hey - I asked rainbow but wanted to ask you too - did you find you had more ewcm and other fertility signs than usual after your m/c? I've had crazy cramps for 3 days now - both O pains and af-like cramps. I don't normally get nearly this much cramping at O time. I also have so much ewcm I think I need to put on a liner!

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

I usually get a bit of a fade-in on my OPKs, but the tests from yesterday and this morning are still quite faint. If I went by my usual patterns of OPKs (and disregard the crazy fertility signs my body's giving me) I would think I might still be days away from O. I'm hoping, though, that with the m/c my hormones might be slightly different and I will be surprised by a sudden +OPK instead of having to wait days longer.

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That happened to me this time w/the OPKs...I alway get a nice fade pattern and my body, CM etc. always corresponds but this time no fade pattern and when my 1st + came, I was already starting to get a bit less soft in there. Glad you got 2 attempts in! :cheer:

I'm glad I got those attempts in too, just in case. We'll dtd tonight as well, so that'll be at least 3 good attempts. If I don't get the +OPK today, we'll try to figure out a way to have another attempt Thursday night at MIL's house.

Mocha, if the Rephresh feels right because of the EWCM I'd say do it...i am of the opinion that tons and tons of EWCM sways boy, but that may be because I used to be an EWCM factory queeen...and well....I have boys :)

Jamie, re: emotions and accepting them, I feel the same way. When I first came on IG and read all the posts about really being disappointed with having a boy, or mothers who could not imagine how they'd ever bond with their sons, it raised all sorts of emotions in me and I became very protective of my sons and the idea of mothering them, and that led me to this weird stance that while I still wanted a girl, I'd never regret another boy if I had him. I don't know why reading those posts struck such a raw nerve in me (everyone has a right to her emotions, and who I am to judge how they feel about their children?) but it just really disturbed me, and it made me lean the opposite. I DID experience sadness that DS2 was indeed a boy, but reading those very sad negative posts about raising boys on IG brought the Mama Bear out in me and I had convinced myself that another boy would be fine, just great. That I just wanted a 3rd child.

Well...now I've come to the conclusion that while I would definitely love another boy, I would BE sad. It would be a dream lost if I did not get a little girl, and get to experience that. It is really hard admitting that to myself, because I have this weird pride issue with my boys. I love them to pieces, as I'm sure we all love our boys to pieces....but it would beyond amazing to have a daughter!

Lemon, you did do a lot of DTDing but a lot of rephresh too! I think if you got pregnant, it could very well be a girl. Is it new moon where you are at? It's not new moon in Virginia until Christmas Eve at 11:30 ish pm.

Rainbowflower, did you not get any attempts at all in this cycle?

Amari, are you out there, lurking? Back from Mexico yet?

Jen, the 2WW is maddening! I always feel liek time gets slowed down while in it! Hehe!

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

That's one of the things that started getting me worried about my sway, since that's how I conceived all my boys - just falling asleep after dtd and letting everything stay in there until morning.

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I think you're fine and actually wise to do that this time as you've used the RepHresh and the J&D might just be too much swaying to get preg. Last time, you weren't swaying in this same manner at all from what it sounds like...I think you're doing just great to get preg and still sway girl!

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

It won't affect the sperm that are already in there, right?

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Won't affect what's in there from earlier...those guys should be long gone!

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Originally Posted by Mochagirl

Hey - I asked rainbow but wanted to ask you too - did you find you had more ewcm and other fertility signs than usual after your m/c? I've had crazy cramps for 3 days now - both O pains and af-like cramps. I don't normally get nearly this much cramping at O time. I also have so much ewcm I think I need to put on a liner!

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I didn't have a TON of CM but I have found that I've been more "engorged" or "swollen" in there for a longer period. EEEK...probably TMI! :oops: I usually get kind of swollen in the innner folds (not sure how else to describe it) for about 2-3 days around O time but these last two times, I was like that for like 5+ days!

Also, I was (and have been) getting cramps after DTD (way before and continuing through O time), almost like the sperm were up there, reporting for duty and having a party while wating for the egg...Felt like there was a lot of debauchery goin' on up in there a few hrs after DTD.

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Originally Posted by auroara78

Jamie, re: emotions and accepting them, I feel the same way. When I first came on IG and read all the posts about really being disappointed with having a boy, or mothers who could not imagine how they'd ever bond with their sons, it raised all sorts of emotions in me and I became very protective of my sons and the idea of mothering them, and that led me to this weird stance that while I still wanted a girl, I'd never regret another boy if I had him. I don't know why reading those posts struck such a raw nerve in me (everyone has a right to her emotions, and who I am to judge how they feel about their children?) but it just really disturbed me, and it made me lean the opposite. I DID experience sadness that DS2 was indeed a boy, but reading those very sad negative posts about raising boys on IG brought the Mama Bear out in me and I had convinced myself that another boy would be fine, just great. That I just wanted a 3rd child.

Well...now I've come to the conclusion that while I would definitely love another boy, I would BE sad. It would be a dream lost if I did not get a little girl, and get to experience that. It is really hard admitting that to myself, because I have this weird pride issue with my boys. I love them to pieces, as I'm sure we all love our boys to pieces....but it would beyond amazing to have a daughter!

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I feel very much the same way! If I didn't, I'd either stop at 2 or go HT. I want a 3rd no matter what. I want a girl too! If we have a boy, he'll be loved to bits as well and so very much wanted! AND I will always be sad that I don't have a daughter and mourn her absence, not our sweet boy's presence...