I had tingling like sunset mentioned and I started at 150mg, cut to 100mg and still had them, so take with care. What I had was rare, very few people on here seem to have had it as I asked about when I had it. xQuote:
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I had tingling like sunset mentioned and I started at 150mg, cut to 100mg and still had them, so take with care. What I had was rare, very few people on here seem to have had it as I asked about when I had it. xQuote:
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Maybebaby ~ with ds1 i wrote the most detailed birth plan ever as an attempt to feel in control and prepared, but as most people know after having had a baby or 2: birthplans never go to plan lol i ended up in theatre with a retained placenta and needed a spinal and everything is pretty much a blur so i don't think anyone even as much as looked at my birthplan. with ds2 i did what you said and wrote a birthplan, stating everything i didn't want to happen (experiences from my first labour etc) but then ds2 decided to come early and that was it, my birthplan was out the window.. so this time i'm not gonna bother! i will probably take a piece of A4 paper and write in bold laters "EPIDURAL PLEASE" and stick that on the front of my hospital notes and that will count as my birthplan haha
Indigoviolet ~ good luck! i didn't realise you're in the 2ww! fx for a bfp!
inglewood ~ it must be nice to "know" what to expect this time with the CS.. at least you've been through it before :) what is the recovery like?
Because I just can't read the birth stories without saying something(it's the student midwife in me!!!) I have to second Inglewoods comment! If you don't want to lie down to push your baby out...DON'T LIE DOWN! They cannot physically move you. Just refuse to move:) Midwives know how to catch a baby on the toilet, in the shower, on all fours...they are just being lazy and the whole protocol thing just requires them to do things a certain way. I was at a birth once where the mama did not want the Dr. to pry his fingers between baby's head and perineum(she was adamant on this and it truly doesn't need to be done)when she was crowning. He did anyway...She kicked him off of his stool, clear across the room! LOL! I think maybe he'll listen a bit better now;) Im not saying to get violent...LOL ;) Anyway, birth your babies however you feel is right. You are the one going home to live with the experience for the rest of your life! Be informed and stand up for yourselves! xoxo Much love~Quote:
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Lol dola mama I felt like kicking my midwife in the face as she started sticking with no pain relief. She told me they can't numb skin but lo and behold - turns out shecould. I didn't do a birth plan ford ds1 just as well really as that all went to Pot. I wrote a bit for ds2 and that was stuck too. So all I want this time is pain relief. Someone who knows what they are doing to sticth me up not too fussed about birthing position but if I have to be on the heart monitor and on my back then I need more than gas and air! I am not too demanding - whatever happens it going to bloody hurt!
Never heard of the tingling sensation, thanks for the tip! I took 50mg lunchtime, and fine, may try another 50mg of b6 tonight, will do a quick google for info first.
The dr didnt say much, I basically said my lp is short can I get prog. she said well once you are pregnant the lpd wont matter so I said but I read that there may not be enough time for my lining to thicken ready for implantation, to which she sort of said 'hmm' as if she didnt know. Thats when she said she can refer me on lol
Chocolate - can you see another doctor at your surgery?
Yeah...if there is medical need for you to be lying down and strapped to monitors(can I ask why they need this...? Just being nosey;)) then it is unfair to ask a mom to just grit her teeth and bare it. A woman was meant to move and sway and do whatever feels right in the moment...not lay down on your back! Do we see any other mammals giving birth on their back? None!!! Anyway, I totally agree with what you're saying and same goes for induction. If there is a medical need to induce, pain relief is usually needed as it is unnatural and the pain is 3x as bad! Oh and I cannot believe she stitched you without pain relief!!!! OMG! I needed stitches with my first baby and I have to say that the stitching was worse than the birth...and I had no pain relief on board either. I hope you have a fabulous experience this time! You just put your foot down and start demanding!!! :D xoQuote:
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I could but to be honest now that Ive been referred they will say wait for that appointment, Ill just have to give b6 and ttc in the meantime and hope for the bestQuote:
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Chocolate, i hope the b6 works for you! definately push for the progesterone (weird how my gp gave it to me without a seconds thought!) as it will really do the trick. I start mine tonight (2dpo - despite what ff reckons) and i really hope there is a little bean-to-be in there that it will do the trick for!Quote:
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Im definately pro-epi! had one with ds1 and it was the only thing that got my through the following 2.5 hrs of pushing as i would have struggled to do that after hours and hours and hours of pain. Didnt have it for ds2 despite begging! There was enough time for it, they just didnt get their arses in gear! With dc3 i too will write in large letters on the front of my maternity reconds i reckon! Funny though, inlike any of you, i actually deal with contractions better by lying down on my back! Its such a personal thing and i hope we are able to give birth the way we want!
Indigo, keeping everything crossed for you!
Inglewood, hurray for not feeling sick today!
Hi everyone else!
For me my birthplan has always been very bare and minimal - with ds1 I think i just wrote no epidural, and for DH to cut the cord. For DS2 I was induced but didnt let them strap me down and got a pretty ok birth for induction. My best birth was ds3 a homebirth and then my birthplan read, no epi, let the cord stop pulsing, dh cut the cord and skin to skin. I really hope I can have another homebirth ds2 was meant to be one. 2 hours after giving birth I had my baby asleep beside me and a wagamamas on my lap BLISS. I know I am lucky to have had good births so far - but I must say I dont think i could ever give birth lieing on my back I would kill someone lol I have always been on all fours but holding onto something - hospital bed in the sitting up position and at home I used the sofa to lean on.
Inglewood - I just wanted to say I LOVE YOU i feel so much better today and I think its mainly down to be able to drink - hot water works thankyou thankyou thankyou if you were here right now i would hug you!!!! I have the sweet syrup stuff from the chemist - DH is a pharmacist so he brought it home yesterday hoping it kicks in soon. Just want to get to my next scan and know baby is ok as still spotting :(
FX for all waiting for you BFP and lots of belly rubs to the pregnant ladies and lots of hugs to those on the diet x x
Just read a post on FF of a lady who is expecting her 4th boy....she is devastated - i could only think that will be me soon.....not that i feel i will be so devastated this time just an acceptance of no pink princess ever ever
The best thing will be knowing 'what day' they will be here this time! My 1st c-section being a 1am drama was tough and I learnt so much from it during the recovery as you forget it's Major Surgery after all. having a urinary catheter after for 24hrs and a new baby to carry was odd! With ds2 being semi-planned (6 days b4 due date) I was calmer and I knew what was ahead, but I was worrying more about the spinal than the actual section!! Made Dh come in and hold my hand!!! lol But didn't make the same mistakes after ds2 like rushing around thinking I could walk 2miles to the post office to pay my road tax like I did with ds1, getting there in agony, braking down in tears and calling a taxi home!! It's a painful recovery, the first week esp is tough, but then I do not imagine pushing out a baby then being 'stitched' down below is a walk in the park either!! Bless you all! I dreaded that tear so much with ds1 I used almond oil to 'prepare' my perineum in the wks leading up to his birth....then had a section!! lol hate not being able to drive until the doc says you can either, ds1 was made to wait 6wks!!! ds2 my dad had a stroke when he was 3wks old and the doc took pity on me and let me drive then!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunset
I am jealous of all ladies who have had 'normal' say births, feel I have missed out, but if my babies are meant to come out the 'sunroof' then so be it!!! lol
Fantastic!!! It helped me so so much too!!! I did actually hug the girl at work who told me about it!! Hot lemonde was my next step, so maybe in a few days!! Hope it continues to help?? xxQuote:
Originally Posted by charlieispy
Hi girls,
Thank you all for your lovely messages :-) Baby O slept from 11pm-5.45am today, was lovely! although he's been sleeping in our bed the last few nights :-/
When i done my birthplan this time i had 'i want an epidural' top of the list lol, the dr was hesitant to give me it because this was my 3rd baby and he said even though i was only 3-4cm 30 mins previous that i may end up having the baby before it kicked in, i was like no way am i anywhere near giving birth!! so i got the epidural thank god, it worked for 30 mins then he was born, still glad i got it though, the last hour or so was horrendous, i cant do pain lol.
Aww babymad, your poor little boy, so glad the ops over and hes doing well :-) bet his brothers are looking after him.
I so hope you find out next week what sex the twins are inglewood!! im dying to know lol :-)
Waves to you all x x
aw petal, i love your siggy, so cute!
I had a full episiotomy which i dont think is any better than a c-sec really....was really laid up with it. Have heard it is very common to need one if you have the epi because your body doesnt get used to the pain and so when the pain hits, the body struggles to push the baby out leaving the mw's no option but to cut. Having said that i would STILL choose the epidural anyday when i face so long pushing. Didnt have an epidural with ds2 and it still took as long (that damned twisted pelvis!) to push so im thinking whats worse.... no epi, excruciating pain and no cutting or epi, little pain and cutting.... no brainer for me!!
Wow girls you've been busy chatting!! :)
Chocolate sorry the doctor didn't give u want thing, hope b6 works well for you!
Charlie so glad to hear your feeling better! :)
Babymad hope your lo is ok, bless him!
Petal what a clever boy sleeping for so long!! I honestly believe that for the first few weeks of having a new baby you just kinda wing it! Well I do anyway, pretty much anything goes like sleeping in same bed etc, then once you've got over the birth and sheet tiredness it all falls into place!!
Well today I had ds1's parents evening, he's on target for his year group and all I all it was a positive report, however they did say that he can be lazy at times and has a potential to achieve more, his dad seems to be dwelling on the negative of it all, and when I kissed tommy before he went to stay at his dads I felt so sorry for what grief I know he will get from dad tonight.
On a plus we had a curry for dinner nom nom lol
charlie, it was that syruppy stuff that i was thinking of...still cant think of the name! glad inglewoods suggestion worked for you and you have had relief ;)
Dola mama I had pre eclampsia with induction and bp of 190/140 with ds1 so choice or complaints his birth. With ds2 I had high bP so had to be monitored which is fare enough but I could sit on the birthing ball so why I had to labour on my back god knows
Oh I was cut with ds1 as I needed vontose after 3.5 hours pushing he was back to back with the cord round his neck so the cord was short and holding him in. A doctor cut me and I was welled numbed before she did it and she stiched me with no pain. That was far nicer than tearing with ds2. The birth was a piece of p!## compaired to the sticthes - worse pain I have ever felt and there was no need to feel it
God the 2ww never gets any easier does it?! I'm only 2dpo and had to resort to building a playmobil pirate ship for ds1s birthday on Monday to pass the time away! Dh never gets home before 10pm and now towie and made in Chelsea have finished there isn't even that much trash on tv to get me through the boredom! Urgh!
Kell glad you had a good parents eve for ds! Shame his dad can't focus on the positives. My dad used to be like that and I hated it. I had ds's nursery one yesterday and they were so encouraging but did mention that he is the busiest boy they have ever had there...eek!
Deaks, ur episiotomy story was my biggest fear before c-sections were outta my hands, feel for you!! A wound on ur tummy is sore, but down there...ouch!! Fx ur pelvis is straighter for baby no 3???? x
Thanks Hun, it was truly awful. Because they had to do the episiotomy to get ds out and also further tearing from removing the placenta manually, both of which they totally cocked up leaving me with full on convulsions, my vg was so swollen it was hanging down about 4 inches... Had to send my dad out to buy me a rubber ring which I sat on for about a month! Not pleasant! I changed hospitals for ds2 because of that and the after care being so shocking. But they have now closed that hospital so I have to go back to that hell hole for dc3. Can't wait!
Hopefully it's a whole new medical team and prob lots of diff midwives at the awful hosp?? My friend had her baby in aug and is still sore from a similar experience. They had to turn her baby inside her and pull her out...just awful. She was screaming for a section but they said no and she's been left very 'troubled' down there. The joys of childbirth! Wish I was like my mum few puffs ands pants and out my brother and I came, no meds!! Saying that we were 7lb-er's, my boys were 9lb 1 and 8lbs 5 9early) and I am 5ft!! Didn't know I had a twisted cervix either, but dh says it matches my personality! twat! Shame ur Dh gets home so late!! must be tough, I feel bad leaving dh 2 nights a wk at 7pm, all night till home at 8.30am. With twins too, going back to work at 6mths will be tough for him! Think I am lucky tho, him being a twin and coming from a family of 4, he's taking it in his stride (so far).....Quote:
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We had fun tonight trying to suss out the phil and teds sport buggy a mum gave me!! lol Dh going daft trying to google how to open it!!! hee hee, shame it's no good from birth tho! Not sure what to do, buy a double pram for what 6mths or so?? or use the M&P twin buggy (kindly also given to us) that almost lies flat with cosy toes?? It's just to walk literally 2mins or less to school and back with the boys!
Petal, love ur ticker, love wee bunnies! Good boy sleeping for u, knew his mummy would love a good sleep! Glad u got ur own way in the end at the birth too. I'm so desp to find out the sex, Fx on tues it's the consultant as she promised me a good look about if it was her, the sonographer said she wouldn't say till 20wks :( Sure it's 2 baby boys in there, just my instinct and I'm ok with that, the shock of 2 babies in there has over-ruled the shock it will prob be a boy! Hope ur resting lots and jealous of all ur cuddles with ur boy!!!
My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth
With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.
I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??
I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques... :)
Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!
Wow I'm rambling!
Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?
So definitely medically needed for DS1. With DS2, you're right....you didn't need to labour on your back, most likely. It's just "hospital protocol" and they just expect that all women want to birth like that... To touch base on the episiotomy stories... I've attended births where even women with epidurals are moved upright and supported by the staff so they could push effectively which leads to WAY less epi's. I think that most Dr's here in my city have learned that tearing is WAY better than cutting(thank God!). It all comes down to who is willing to help women so they can have a smoother birth no matter what is going on in the birthing suite. Research based care providers are hardly seen any more:( Episiotomy's also take 5x longer to heal than a natural tear and usually creates much more scar tissue as well. They are not fun....I'm sorry for everyone that has gone through that...not nice at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by maybebabythree
I've recorded 2 so far:bigsmile: First was a MW attended home waterbirth and the second was an unassisted home waterbirth. I LOVE watching my birth videos. They make me cry every time I see them. I will be recording this birth as well as having a photographer here to capture the moments. It'll be my second unassisted and I'm seriously excited about it!! I love having my babies at home. I'm blessed with quick(not so easy, though;)) births as well and I'm very thankful for that. My 2nd came after about 2 hrs of hard labour and my third came after 1hr of hard labour. After the horrible experiences I had at the hospital with my first birth, you won't catch me birthing in one ever again, unless absolutely medically necessary. There's just something about being the first one to touch and catch my baby, having a peaceful environment, and being able to climb into my own bed to nurse my new baby...it's BLISS:) (I know exactly what you mean Charlie!) xoxoQuote:
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Inglewood, I totally agree, wish I was like my mum at childbirth too! My babies are so little that its rediculous how hard they are to get out! Ds1s head just would not turn in my twisted cervix, they tried all sorts! Anyway they do come out eventually so will try and stick with a natural birth next time even if this law about choosing whether you want to have a section or go natural comes into place.
I cantw wait for you to find out the sex.... So so exciting! And I'm glad your dh taking it in his stride... Mine wouldn't!! And in terms of the buggy I reckon the m+p one you have will be fine til they are old enough to both sit on the Phil and teds! Mind you, you won't enjoy the switch as the Phil and teds will seem so heavy in comparison. Dh didn't get in til gone midnight...not sure how long either of us can deal with his work hours for!
Pinga, your births sound amazing...very jealous!
My new thermometer is playing up which explains why my temps are all over the place. They are shooting up and down and today's looks like a pre ov temp! 36.43 and 10 mins later after still not moving 36.14! Yesterday it was 36.9!!! Think I will have to buy a new one....again!
Morning everyone!
lol i'm feeling a bit scarred from coming on here this morning and reading all your birth stories lmao! sounds pretty horrendous and to think i'm gonna go through that in just a few weeks is erm... scary! i'm lucky in the way that i've never torn or needed an episiotomy so my recovery has always been pretty instant.. only thing is after i had ds1 and i needed manual removal of the placenta, the midwife then tore the inside of my vaginal wall as well as the outside, but forgot to put this down in my notes so it was only a week after coming home from the hospital that i was sort of wondering why i was feeling uncomfortable down there and i had a look and got the shock of the year. it wasnt pretty, but i think in the end it's good in a way that i didnt know about the stitches before hand because i believe it would have hurt more if i would have known.. psychological and all that, because i honestly didn't think it hurt. I didn't have any pain whatsoever going to the toilet or any of that you hear about, it was just when i walked long distances that it would feel rather uncomfortable.
Anyways, i'm quite open minded when it comes to labour and i'm 99.9% sure i won't have time for an epidural, because i never do! so i'm preparing for another drug free labour and as long as i'm not confined to a bed it shouldn't be a problem.
Petal ~ what a good boy you have.. i can't believe he slept so long for you already :)
Inglewood ~ i can't wait for tuesday! i'm so excited for you! your pregnancy seems to be flying by! :)
Maybebaby ~ fx you don't have to be strapped to a monitor this time!
Doulamama ~ you don't fancy coming to the UK and be my doula :p i've been thinking of perhaps recording the birth, but i don't know... i'm quite squeamish so i'm not so sure i could watch it again lol
charliespy ~ oh no are you still spotting? :( when is your next scan? what is this syrup thing you've been drinking?
hello to all you other lovely ladies!! :)
Sunset, I'm soooo hoping it's the consultant on tues as although the sonographer was nice, she said she doesn't tell women the gender till 20wks...so Fx it's the consultant!
Ds2 had eye clinic appt this morning, he did so well. Sat like an angel, I was so proud! Not due back till May, but with the twins she laughed and said, lets make that june!!! lol
My dilema today is waiting for a drain company....lucky us have a blocked sewage pipe under the decking!! arrrghhh
3 yrs ago ds1 was throwing babywipes down the loo and it blocked, but ds2 assures me he hasn't, but need to wait and see when they come...it's awful!!!
i hope it's the consultant too :) i thought you said you had to be scanned by the consultant every 2 weeks or was it just that you need to be scanned every 2 weeks, but not necessarily by the consultant herself? glad to hear your ds2's eye appointment went well! my ds1 isn't due back for his next eye appointment until april :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Inglewood
yes still spotting :( i have lactulose syrup it is hideously sweet not enjoying that hoping it kicks in soon! Wish I could get another scan am quite paranoid with the spotting
No they have 1 senior sonographer that can scan multiple pg's too, but I have to see the Consultant every 4wks. Unless, I need to see her every 2wks then I can ask to see her while I at scanning, it's pretty flexible. Can't believe I am 17wks today, when I told the opthalmologist she was shocked, said I looked so neat for twins....that worrries me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunset
Tha drain guy is here! yeh, an hour late!!!
DM, still keep smiling for you, so lovely!!! x
Ah Charlie, have you got one of those heartbeat dopplers? Would you think about getting one for reassurance?I got one after my mmc and it shows heart rate too which is great.
I have got a doppler but cant use it yet as too early x x
Inglewood - ooooh hope you can find out at your next scan!!! FX
and yes DM - saw you had updated your siggy have you just found out its pink?? CONGRATS if so x
I'm sorry charlie, it must be such a worry x
Inglewood - did you figure out the pushchair? We have one if I can help! The front seat is suitable for a newborn (you could buy a cocoon but you don't need to) and although they say something like 6 months for the back seat mine were always in it by around 4 months so it's not that long - could you use a sling for one baby and have the other baby in the pushchair? Ooh, I'm so envious of two babies!!
Thanks Z!! but we found the side straps with metal hoop that u pull off!!! But had to google it and what a laugh we had at our stupidity!!!! lol We were given a cocoon with it, but it says on website it must be a toddler at the front if baby in cocoon, so wasn't sure?? Have u ever seen 2 newborns in one before?Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
A quick hello from me.....
DS3 is doing really well and was a complete superstar at hospital :) I didn't like any of it, so good thing DH was there to keep me calm. I got very upset when they had to put him to sleep. Very pleased to be home and hoping he will be up about again properly in about 7- 10 days. complete rest for the next two days.
Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes, very kind of you all xxx
Charlie ~ have you told your gp/ mw you are still spotting?
Inglewood ~ we had a double pushchair as DS2 and DS3 are close in age and we had the Out and About 360, it was excellent, only just sold it! Can't wait for your scan :)
Indigo and Deaks ~ hope the 2ww is going ok? Any signs?
Hi everyone else....hopefully be back on again later xx
babymad, ahh, bless him they are wee troupers!! It's us mum's that take it harder sometimes.... when ds1 had an ear op I was so worried, he was a star!! Kids are amazing wee people!! he's to a quick recovery!! Thanks for the pushchair advice! x
Just another quick note incase anyone missed my offer...
Free to anyone with free P+P..... 2mths-ish supply of Pregnacare tabs, didn't agree with my gastritis. In boxes within foil packaging, not loose tablets. Shame to throw them out! Just Pm me. x
Hope everyone's good!
Babymad glad your lo is on the mend, I'd have been a wreck as well!
Charlie hope bean is ok!
Sunset gosh labours not that far away for you now! Seems like an age for me yet lol
Inglewood lol at the push chair fiasco! My dp wouldn't have looked online, he's one of those annoying stubborn men who won't look at instructions, wants to figure things out for himself!
Had a busy day! Had chemistry and college, my brain is fried! But we were given an extension on our assignment so the class is happy!
I'm going night fishing with dp, his mate and girlfriend. I'm not really looking forward to it, I'm gonna freeze and be pregnant! While they get drunk and fish lol! I promised I'd go so don't wanna let him down, it's his birthday next week do this is kinda I b'day celebration!