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I did a version of HE when we were trying for last dd but I gave up when it started taking so long and reverted back to my old LE tendencies. My first two pregnancies took 2-3 cycles so I'm really hoping that's what will happen again. We just had our first month and got bfn so really hoping for the next couple months. Although when I tried HE the first time, I feel like I ate more processed and less healthy foods.
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Can I ask again about ovulation predictor kits. It's the first time I've ever tracked ovulation, I must have been so lucky conceiving my boys! I bought th echo strips on line but I'm wondering if they are working. Have been testing since day 12 or 13 and been negative every day, I'm now day 23. Either I ovulated super early, will ovulate late or haven't ovulated, or maybe the strips are duff? Does anyone use the digital ones? I have one more practice month so need a rough indication of when I Ov! Thanks
Oh and hate the LE diet too. Do not want to have to keep it up for more than a few months. What meals are people making?!
Hello!! I'm hoping that I will be able to join you on a pink swaying journey at the end of this year - I still need to persuade hubby but I'm starting the LE diet, the modified version for PCOS (I don't have PCOS that I'm aware of but atomic recommended it with my exercise levels/type). The exercise side of things shouldn't be an issue but the diet will be interesting for me as I love my food and have a very sweet tooth �� From reading up on the stats, I am a typical boy breeder (I've had 3) with my diet, personality etc so it doesn't bode well for me to manage a pink bundle lol!x
Welcome! I also have 3 boys. hope you can talk DH round!
Ttc2015 I use both the LH strips and the clearblue digital! So first I pay close attention to my CM as it starts dry and slowly and daily become more copious and thin and stretchy. Once it becomes like egg whites, I will start to test with the cheap LH strips every time I use the restroom until I get a positive reading. I then use the clearblue to confirm it! I use the cheapies first since they're a dime a dozen and I won't use the clearblue till I'm 90% sure I'm ovulating since they are expensive. I will then test 24+ later to confirm the LH surge has passed and I get a negative.
I've just now started tracking my BBT to hopefully now pinpoint tho moment of ovulation.
As far as your strips not reading, are you testing from urine in a cup or from the urine ******??? Mine reads best from a cup. Also- I got mine from Amazon. It was a pack of around 50 I think for maybe $5! They work wonderful for me! I'll post a picture of mine!
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Thanks Nann! Yes I bought the strips from Amazon too, mine look a different brand though. I use a cup, follow instructions as on packet but have had negatives. Just nervous as have one more month to work out roughly when ovulation will fall, going t invest in some digital ones too. Rubbish at tracking CM. just to confirm when you get the positive you are not actually ovulating then, it's roughly a couple days later??? I was always rubbish at biology.
Yes! So the lh surge happens prior to ACTUALLY ovulating. So LH is released in your urine approx 12-24 prior to the egg actually being released! But some women vary that's why there's a whole 12 hour gap between 12-24 hours! Which is where tracking basal body temp comes in. You could try starting with tracking your basal temp first to get an idea where your temp spikes. The temp spike indicates the release has happened vary recently since first +opk!
Should I call it an omen? I was cleaning out my nightstand today and found an envelope full of opks (30-40) that I thought I mailed to a friend of mine after I got pregnant with DS2 and assumed they must be expired now.. They don't expire until October 25 of this year! I can start testing for my surge as soon as I get my iud out tomorrow instead of waiting until payday to buy opks. Maybe I'll catch the first egg ;)
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That's so great has2gentlemen! Haha how ironic:)
Oh and welcome 3sacharm!! :)
Hey ladies
My first attempt will be next cycle! (Sept). I Will be starting clomid on cd3 and am doing a PCOS girl diet. To be honest I'm really just hoping for a sticky bean of any gender because we've been ttc for nearly two years and haven't had a single bfp!!
Just a quick question..I've been stocking up on opks and I *think* I've got the gist of it but when is the best time to test? On the instructions it says between 10am and 8pm but what have you guys found to be the best? Thanks :-) x
I've read morning is best! Between like 8am and 11am! The first pee of the day before breakfast! Just cuz it's not as diluted with food and water or drinks from the day, so it the most potent so to speak? This is when I test. But I also test all throughout the day when I get ewcm. I'll test every time I pee till I eventually get a positive. That way I really pinpoint that surge the moment it happens!
Most women hit the surge in the evening, so it's recommended you test twice a day- once around 11am (2nd pee) and once around 8pm (a few hours after dinner but not too close to bed). I've heard if you only use fmu you can actually miss your surge if it happens in the evening and is gone by the next morning. Fmu is the best for hpt.
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Thanks guys! Very helpful!!
Well I have been testing this cycle as a practice run and so far no +
Started CD 11 as that what the instructions said! They are getting darker but no way +. Today is CD 14 so I will wait and test between the times you have advised. My cycles have been perfect 28 days for last 3 months so was expecting to O today or tomorrow!
I have bad cramps so fx AND for the FIRST TIME in years actual PROPER egg white CM! I was soo shocked to see it on the toilet paper! Just tested - 11.15am and seems lighter! Meh...
Oh what a learning curve this is!! Hopefully I will know what to expect next cycle during my 1st attempt so I don't get too stressed! X
Thanks for posting this pic! Now I know what I am looking for!! XQuote:
Originally Posted by Nann3r
Hi ladies, I haven't been online in the past couple of weeks. We are currently on vacation and having a great time. LE was on pause for the first week but getting back into my groove now skipping breakfast, fasting and no snacking. I am being as chill as I can about it cause I was the complete opposite with my boys conceptions. We have decide me to 100% go for it this month so I am CD8 right now (CD9 in my regular time zone if I want to get technical lol) and were going to do e4d starting either tomorrow or Friday. I am due to O possibly around Sept 14-16 depending on my cycle, long flights always seem to throw my O off track and my cycle is a little irregular as it stands so we shall have to adjust hope e4d and no stress works lol. Staying away from OPKs as I get waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too obsessive and have promised DH I will cut it with my "military style ttc" lol. No wonder I have two boys lol.
Ladies, I haven't been doing my cardio for a couple of weeks but wanted to get back into it when we get home. I haven't been couch potato on holiday as we are walking miles every day in 90 degree+ heat so working up a serious sweat. Do you guys think it would be ok to just resume cardio when we get home on the 8th even if I am due to O later that week or early the following week? I feel like the cheats on LE while on vacation will hurt my sway so want to kinda balance it out. Plus I am wondering if I have gained a lb or two while away, though perhaps I only feel that way cause I just finished AF. I was 122 leaving home which was my lowest adult weight with a BMI of 19.5. I have always been 22.7. I don't feel my sway is very strong other than the changes made to my diet!
I m going to try sept cycle too. I hope u get ur girl
Has2, hopefully you can catch the first egg! :)
Mum23boys, good luck! I've been trying to get my posOPK this cycle but haven't had one even though I'm pretty sure I ovulated. But there were few days I couldn't do the test so maybe I just missed it. Next cycle is my first attempt so hopefully I will get my positive OPK then. Trying not to stress. We will be doing one attempt in fertile window.
Hopper, nice to hear you're having a good time on vacation! You are really close to your first attempt! Very exciting. I don't know what you should so with the exercise, hopefully other ladies can help. Great weight loss, congrats! It's true that e4d is less stressful.
I will have my first attempt in three weeks, unless my cycle is longer. I think I ovulated this cycle few days later than normally. I have lost almost 8kg during these 9,5 weeks on LE. My BMI is 21,1 now. Really happy with my weight. I've been pretty good with the diet, only few cheats. I'm kinda used to the LE but I still miss my food I used to eat lol. I really hope I will get pregnant in first or second try. It would be hard to continue the diet and exercise after few months on it.
My childhood friend just had their 3rd boy. I don't know if they were hoping for a girl. Also my cousin and his wife had their third boy in summer. When people have their 3rd boy it actually takes the pressure off from me. I feel like if I'm going to have a third boy then I'm not the only one. If everyone was having a girl after 2 boys I would be very stressed I think.
Good luck to everyone who are having the first attempt this month!
Thanks ladies! Yeah 2x I tracked O for my two boys, did opks and stressed waiting for a pos opk making me O even later than normal! And I O late anyway lol. Trying to be more relaxed and less Martha ;) I am the definition of a Martha lol. I think e4d was getting good results when I was last on here, we DTD eod or every day when trying for boys! And with changes to my diet (which I only now realise are absolutely huge - when I think of the calories I used to consume daily I am in shock at how much I have cut myself down so hoping it all helps!)
Best of luck September ladies!! 2x it sounds like you have done amazing on the diet, well done!!! 8kg is absolutely brilliant! I was 130 ish when starting in May after going from 142 after having my DS2 in Feb 2012. I was borderline between 121 and 122 before the vacation so around 8lbs in 4 months. The last few were very hard to shift! I used to always be 22.7 and am now 19.5 so I suppose the few cheats on holidays might help me stick at this weight instead of risking O by losing more.
2x I get what you mean bout friends having their 3rd same gender. I was hit really negatively this summer by two close friends getting their opposite after two sames. Both never displayed any GD and were very quick to claim they didn't have any and were happy with their 2 boys and 2 girls respectively. Fast forward to them having their son after two girls and daughter after two boys and they have been so vocal about how they finally got their longed for child. I am happy for them but it kinda feels like if I have another son they will pity me or something cause I am missing out on the experience they are so loving - and that I so badly want! I dunno if that even makes sense lol. Its funny how GD works isn't it, the silliest things can trigger it! I honestly can't imagine life without this horrible feeling but I would love love love to experience it!
Hiya,
Not been on this thread for ages, it's great to hear how well everyone is doing. I sometimes feel I am now so used to the diet that I am worried I am not doing it strongly enough! I stick to the limits using fitness pal app and don't eat any meat, but feel that I am eating some foods that other people avoid eating e.g chick peas!
Do you think that as long as you are with in the daily allowance of calories and fat etc, this is ok?
Also, as previously mentioned, my sister in law was finding out her baby gender (she has one boy) she is having another boy! I was positive it would be a girl, she was doing a lot of swaying accidentally from what I could see!
But another boy it is her for her. She insists she is delighted but, I can see through it (turns out she was told girl at 12week scan and had girl name picked )
I am not ttc until November, so good luck to everyone in their September attempts!! :)
I know what upu feel hopper. My sis in law got a boy after a girl and she's always telling everyone how great it was to havd both genders. I am scared to try third time to face the disappointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopper
With my second son i didnt have a strong GD but this time around i want a girl so bad. I m going to bd in three weeks and every night i think of dropping the idea and be happy with two coz i m scared
I m confused too. I mc in march and it was a boy too. We dtd only once after 10 days abstaince. I m not sure what should i do.
I m dieting but i m underweight and couldnt loose more. 110 lbs is my weight
But i dont understand le diet as well completely
I m so overwhelmed 😖
Atomic told me that it's the limits that matter, not the foods. For example, I eat meat every day but stay within the limits. Other girls are vegetarian. There are NO forbidden foods on LE. Some foods are harder to keep in the limits, so most people avoid them, but that doesn't mean you can't have them if you can make them work!Quote:
Originally Posted by jennypenny
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Girls can you please tell me if this sounds ok to you? I'm just starting out on my LE diet but doing the PCOS one to try and minimise testosterone ready for a possible sway attempt from December...
So today I have:
- had a white coffee with half a sweetener; skipped breakfast (waited 16 hours from last meal till lunch)
- lunch: whole grain rice with black quinoa and a nectarine
- dinner: 4 sesame rye crackers with a lick of butter, 100g light mozzarella, cherry tomatoes, red pepper, cucumber, red grapes, kiwi, blueberries and some honey Greek yogurt.
This totals around 1200 kcals and I'm off to the gym tonight too so will probably have a little something after that, maybe a protein shake if my limits allow?!
What are your thoughts?? Does this sound right or am I way off??
Thank you!!x
Thanks for that! I've realised now that it's not an exact science now and not reliable for some! Especially since I'm going to be taking clomid which apparently can mess with them anyway. I will still keep track but going for E4D so hopefully that covers all the bases xQuote:
Originally Posted by 2xblue
I *should* be doing my first attempt in 3 weeks too! Depends on AF.
Nobody I know has had 3 boys in a row...but has had girls. And if I concieve boy 4 then I will be an anomaly within my group as no one I know has had that many kids of the same sex. I'm actually nervous about that.. The pressure is on lol
Good luck!! X
Hiya I'm not sure and hopefully someone whose on LE can chime in (I'm on PCOS but eat more cals and have lost weight) but I don't think that's enough calories? I think it's around 1500 unless you have loads of weight to spare and that you're supposed to eat back the exercise calories? As far as I can gather, it's not a starvation diet per se but the actual diet content that sways...I could be wrong tho :worry: xQuote:
Originally Posted by 3'sacharm
I just joined, I totally in the same boat! I have a 2 years old son and I am 36 already so I can probably only conceive one more! I am praying for a girl, and I started LE diet for about 2 months now! It's so hard! I have clomid but too scared to take it! I am taking calcium, mag, low sodium and pottasium! I drink coffee and lots of crystal lite, we dropped the cut off dates since we couldn't conceive! We are going to do one attempt only and just use vinegar duche! I am so nervous! Are you doing the LE diet strictly? Sooooo hard!
3sacharm that sounds on the low side of calories to me? Well it would be too low for me, but as far as I understand the diet it's LE for you, whatever that's is, so if you are lowering everything in comparison to what you normally eat that's a good thing. It's not so much about what you are eating as keeping it to 2-3 meals so keeping your blood sugar low by not snacking and leaving big gaps between meals and only eating when you feel hungry (which is all the time for me!!!) The main things to lower seem to be protein and fat, which is why a vegetarian diet is suggested but you can still eat meat if it's within the daily limits. I'm not very good at working out the content of my meals so just trying to stick to the principles and eat smaller portions. I've almost cut out meat completely and try to steer clear of nutrient rich foods, like spinach, eggs and avocados etc. I might be wrong but I'm looking at the first couple of months on the diet as a way to lose weight, get rid of some fat, and then the month leading up to BD and just after I will be stricter and really try and keep blood sugars as low as possible.
Hi wantmyprincess, welcome! Atomic doesn't really recommend magnesium or calcium, what does everyone else think? I'm on peppermint tea and vitex, and folic acid. DH is on root licorice and cranberry, plus he has upped his soya intake. I read that using a gel like rePHresh is better than a douche as it lasts for a few days and keeps you PH level at 4.5 all this time, whereas a douche can be washed out by CM and semen. What is everyone else thinking about this?
I now have lavender everywhere in my house, candles, hanwash, bath oils, body lotion, shower gel, washing powder etc etc!! I also just bought a lovely Rose quartz necklace, the lady in the shop said its a stone with good energy and is apparently good for your sex life!!!! Probably nothing in all this but it can do not harm! Is anyone else doing anything like this?
So I'm just back from a night out where one friend (who has all girls) said to another, who is expecting a baby (and also has all girls), that she would love to look after the baby when its born, unless it's a boy because she isn't really 'drawn' to baby boys, but baby girls she just wants to 'eat up'. And she knows that I'm planning to try for another baby. When people make comments like this it really upsets me because 1. I feel it totally undervalues my beautiful boys who I wouldn't swap for the world and who were the most gorgeous babies, just as gorgeous as any baby girl, and 2. Reinforces my belief that every woman actually wants a daughter deep down, and if I have another boy everyone will be feeling sorry for me. They will whisper "that's the poor woman who has 4 boys, can you imagine?!". And then another friend who has a boy and a girl said 'how do you cope with 3 boys?!' And went on to say how awful her boy was and how grateful she was to have a daughter who was so lovely and basically made everything ok. 'I'm so glad I have her, she is so gentle and lovely etc etc'. I just want to curl up and cry!!!!!!!!! My boys are loud and boisterous but they are also gentle and kind and so so loving, I wouldn't wish them away, my worst nightmare is anything happening to them and I have a huge guilt about how badly I want a daughter, but it's hard not to feel this way when it seems that everyone around you is reinforcing these feelings!!!!
Sorry I know I don't belong in this thread but I have to say that your friends sound like idiots to me,Ttc2015. Seriously- not drawn to boy babies?! I can honestly say that I wanted a boy first, didn't care at all the 2nd go around, and this time around would only prefer a girl so I can experience both but would also love another boy.
You need to start spending time with women who love both boys and girls! I find that attitude very unhealthy and am glad I have never met someone like that in real life. I just want you to know that there are lots and lots of people who don't feel that way! If you do end up having a 4th boy you will be blessed :) Although of course I hope everyone gets their dream gender.
Thanks Junie, I was v upset last night but I'm so over sensitive about these things. I don't think people even realise what they are saying, I know they don't mean to upset. I've just always wanted a daughter so badly and I take any comments that seem to reinforce negative stereotypes of boys too much to heart. I wish I didn't care so much what other people think!!!! I would be so blessed with another boy. I was so proud the first day I went out with all 3 of mine, twins were a few days old and eldest was nearly 2, and all I got was negative comments. Just need t grow a thicker skin!
Ttc2015, I also don't belong in the thread but I completely agree with junie. How insensitive of your friend to say such a thing, little boys are just divine and anyone who feels like your friend does it missing out, maybe in actual fact she is saying things like that to cover up her own gd about having all girls? Either way its people like that who make gd worse for people and maybe like junie said it may be a good idea to take a step back from them for now and surround yourself with people who don't make you feel bad about having 3 boys. Having 3 of a kind is a special thing, the bond between the ones I've come across has always been amazing. Good luck to you hun.
Wow!!! My blood is boiling reading this!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ttc2015
How insensitive and cruel!!! I would have found it so hard to keep quiet listening to that nonsense!!
Some people just do not think what they are saying! I have recently distanced myself from a friend who came out with similar rubbish about how she was relieved to have just to one boy (followed by 2 girls)
I totally can relate about feeling guilty wanting a girl, but just need to remember it has nothing to do with how much I love and treasure my boys xxx
I VASTLY prefer that people stick to 1500-1800 cals. THere is a small minority who can drop to 1200-1500 and they are: People who have more than 30-50 lbs to lose, people who are petite and never eat more than 1500 cals a day and got boys doing that, and people who have plateaued with weight left to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mum23boys1982
Some people even go up to 1800-2000. People who are tall, have a high metabolism, nursing moms, and those doing the full 60 6-7 exercise may want to at least start at 1800-2000.
On PCOS deit you should not be using low fat products - since you are getting less cals from carbs, you need more cals from fat or you will waste away to nothing. Full fat only on PCOS (plus skim dairy products are awful for PCOS for reasons we do not know). And you get more protein too 50-60 g instead of 40-50.
Be sure you are not counting ANYTHING in low carb veg like tomato, cucumber, pepper (they are free and unlimited) and count cals ONLY in fruit and higher carb veg so if you are including those in 1200 cals that's even worse because you are certainly not getting enough cals/protein/fat
Thanks Mandy and Jenny. I was very shocked, she is a very nice lady and usually so complementary about my boys, was just so taken aback! Ah well, mustn't dwell on the silly things that people say. X
Hopper, thank you! You have done great weight loss yourself too. I also think your few cheats on holiday were good to you, as you said you don't want to risk ovulation as your BMI is pretty low now.
Mom23boys, yes you should be more stress free if you are doing e4d! I think I ovulated almost week later than normally! Maybe it's the LE that delayed O? Exciting that we have our first attempts so close together! I'm sorry you don't know many 3 boy families. I can imagine the pressure is on. I really hope you will get your DD but if you don't I'm sure the 4th boy is very special :) I know many families with 3 boys, I think only 2 has two boys and then a girl. Sometimes I think it's almost impossible to have a girl after two boys but this swaying stuff makes me hopeful!
Welcome wantmyprincess!
Ttc, your friend's comment was absolutely horrible. What are they thinking when they say these things? I'm really sorry you had to listen to that and I totally understand why you were upset. Hugs! About lavender and rose quartz, first I wanted to buy lavender products but I couldn't find them in the stores so dropped those. I found my old rose quartz necklace and planned to use that but I have forgot it lol. So I'm not doing any of those. Only put the little girls dress under our bed :)
I'm having a girls night out on next Friday. We are going to a restaurant and have a few drinks. So I'm going to have a cheat night. So looking forward to it! I'm going to eat something LE friendly to stay in limits but going to drink alcohol during the night. First I was little concerned is it ok to have a cheat night so close to the first attempt but AS said it's fine so I'm not stressing over that :)
Hey x2blue! Yeah I say pressure but truth is I'm not worried to be honest what anything thinks anyway...a healthy child is what my end goal is..but saying that this is the last chance salon for a girl... So it is on my mind frequently. I'm hopeful but preparing my self to hear another boy!! XQuote:
Originally Posted by 2xblue
Ttc15 - I wouldn't worry what anybody else thinks. Those that care don't matter and those that matter don't care! People can be bitchy when they think they're better than you with something even friends unfortunately.
Hopper - good luck and I hope you enjoyed your break!
CD 19 for me today. Usually AF comes CD 28 so not long now BUT...this last ovulation has been the worst! Painful cramps and breasts, headaches, nausea and really really bad cravings...I've totally fallen off the diet the last two days! I had insatiable cravings for salt and just stuffed my face with crisps...I NEVER crave salty food, not like that. It was weird. But it's been a strange cycle. If anything it's normally sweet food. So now I'm doubting whether to put off for another month or just go ahead as planned. Meh. Maybe my body needed it. Lol.
Had a dream about boy toddlers last night too! Lol x
I also had a huge craving for crisps this weekend!!! I seem to fall off the wagon a bit at weekends, there always seems to be a party or a meal out and I def go over my limits. I'm confused about alcohol - I thought alcohol was good for girls as long as it's within your limits for the day?
Must have been something in the air! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ttc2015
Well I've added alcohol ...I just have a single shot vodka with diet lemonade or coke every evening. Sometimes I have two. I don't feel any effect from it except it makes me relax a bit...I guess..but it's probably a placebo. I'm sure it's thr longer term effects of alcohol that sway girl. A girl I know has a few girls and drinks at leat 4-5 bottles a week of wine
I don't think there's any fat, protein or carbs in vodka and it's about 60-70 cals per shot. So a good treat tbh x