Dreaming Pink Due Date Group: TTC and Beyond

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, wow the size of a lime already. Mine is still a sweetpea.

As for symptoms: I feel pretty rough and dizzy, like badly hungover quite a lot. And when I don't, I am hungry like crazy.

I wonder if the dizziness could have something to do with an iron deficiency as I took iron supplements in my last pregnancy. I will ask the doctor tomorrow.

[Dreamofpink]

Ladybugs, I think our babies are the same size - sorry I cannot see your ticker on my phone. Glad to hear that your m/s has eased. Mine has lessened too but I'm now getting it about half hour after I eat, up until the next mealtime when hunger wins through. At least I'm not snacking, I put on so much weight in the first 8-9 weeks but then starting off with a low bmi (thanks to Le!) I guess I'm just more of a normal weight now. PGP has also kicked in, big style :( ouch! Is anyone else suffering too? I hope not, it's no fun hobbling like an old lady! My bbs are still tender & I'm tired & cranky too. However I still can't shake the anxiety that there'll be no baby or heartbeat when I go for my NT scan on Tues. No reason for the anxiety at all except for knowing how precious this little one is after ttc for 18 months. I took it for granted with both boys as it was very easy, but then I wasn't swaying! I've read too much on here & the internet that I had no prior knowledge of before like mmc - eek!!! What will be I guess, I'm just desperate to know that all's well on Tues am. Sorry for the long ramble.... :(

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[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon....betting it is low iron....good idea to check it over with your MD! And your sweetpea will grow quickly!!

Charlee....when do you get results back? Keeping you and your little one in my thoughts and prayers!!!

Pumpkin.....already at 7 weeks!!! Have fun on this vacation..hope the m/s is not too bad and you can enjoy good food!!!!

Dreamofpink....just sending you lots of goodness for the week ahead!!

Mathilde....Go catch that swimmer!!!

2lovely...how are you hanging? Any exciting news?

I know I am forgetting many......Niva...that looks too good to be true or sounds that way...I say evap as well. I have not experienced that with my IC's and you can believe me I blew through 15 of them following my m/c last fall. I hope that you see a bfp this month!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Dreamofpink...your little pink bean just has to be growing!!! I hope that your scan gives you some peace of mind and let you enjoy the sweet child inside!!
I am trying to think what PGP stands for??
I was typing my other response and since both boys are up and needing all the little things! Lol, I never get to respond in 2 mins or less!!

[GeCon]

I am trying to think what PGP stands for??

I was thinking Pelvic girdle pain (PGP).

[GeCon]

Dreamofpink, I am sure everything will go smoothly on Tuesday, but :fingers: anyway. Will you be getting a pic? Can't wait to see some more scan pics.

[Dreamofpink]

I was thinking Pelvic girdle pain (PGP).

Yep that's right. Sorry for not explaining :(

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[Dreamofpink]

Thanks for the support ladies. I really don't want any nub guessing so won't be posting any pics for that. However, I'll be only 11w6d by my dates so it's a bit early for any reliable guesses anyway. I will of course share pics of baby here though! :)

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[I Love Ladybugs]

AKA rounded ligament pain???? Same here...way more than with the first two!!
I love seeing baby pix and I am with you on the no nub guessing? Just like no Ramzi for me!!

[Dreamofpink]

AKA rounded ligament pain???? Same here...way more than with the first two!!
I love seeing baby pix and I am with you on the no nub guessing? Just like no Ramzi for me!!

Do you know what? I'm really not sure! All I know is that I'll eventually need a maternity belt & I pray I won't need crutches like I had with ds2. Around 8 weeks until we move house and I need to stay as mobile as possible. Sorry to hear that you're in pain too :( If it's not one thing it's another, hey?! Will you be referred to a physio too? How did you manage it with your boys?

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[GeCon]

Dreamofpink and Ladybugs, it is totally fine if you don't want any gender guessing based on your scan pics.

I am not sure what I will do, the 1st "real" scan still feels ages away for me...

[GeCon]

Niva, I forgot to say I am sorry, but I have no advice on the test situation other than that I have heard that IC's can be unreliable at times, so I would go with the more reliable brands.

Also, Pumpkin is now on holiday and says :wave: to everyone. She promised to bring back some sun for us all.

[I Love Ladybugs]

With my boys it was way less...but this time, I feel way older and achy all around and having my right knee in pain (not sure exactly why....could be all the running prior to pregnancy, but I don't think so...I will blame my boy for it instead, sat on my knee, jumped on it!!). My hubby and I have been talking that if this pregnancy is all a go, which we feel in our hearts is, that I will take mat. leave the earliest I can get it at 32 weeks.

I feel for you, moving would be such a challenge! Is the house sold already? Good buyers? You are such a trooper to be doing that while preggo!!! My hat is off to you!!!!

Gecon....I want a 20 weeks scan with obvious pix!!! My opportunity might be limited due to the fact that we have few scan options.

[Niva]

Well, those could-be-implantation cramps I was feeling yesterday turned out to be... Appendicitis! Yuck! They did do a blood hgc test in the ER and it was negative at 9dpo, so I'm out this month. :( (There better not be a late implanter there, because it would have been fried by the CT scan!) I should be home in a few days and back to normal. You know you're a crazy swayer when you're told you need surgery and you wonder if it's close enough to the next O to sway pink!:)

[GeCon]

Oh Niva, I am so sorry about the Appendicitis. I hope you feel back to normal soon. I would think that your being unwell would certainly sway pink for next month.

[GeCon]

Back from our scan, ladies and it was lovely to see our little beanie again today.

Doctor said everything was well and baby measured 6+2, so my doctor was happy to go with my EDD of 16th January. She was laughing as beanie has so much space in there, but was all cuddled up in a corner.

Anyway, next appointment is in 4 weeks and here is a pic of today's scan.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/Scan270513_zps12e08a9a.jpg

[Dreamofpink]

Well, those could-be-implantation cramps I was feeling yesterday turned out to be... Appendicitis! Yuck! They did do a blood hgc test in the ER and it was negative at 9dpo, so I'm out this month. :( (There better not be a late implanter there, because it would have been fried by the CT scan!) I should be home in a few days and back to normal. You know you're a crazy swayer when you're told you need surgery and you wonder if it's close enough to the next O to sway pink!:)

Sorry to hear about the appendicitis! That really sucks :( I shouldn't worry about how close the surgery is to ov, I should imagine it'll sway for the whole month! Urgh you poor thing, it must be painful. Hope you're getting lots of rest & being well cared for. Perhaps it's for the best that you have a bfn as much as it's horrible but it'd probably be an added worry over the health of the baby. :( Hope you understand what I'm trying to say here. Thinking of you :)

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[Dreamofpink]

Back from our scan, ladies and it was lovely to see our little beanie again today.

Doctor said everything was well and baby measured 6+2, so my doctor was happy to go with my EDD of 16th January. She was laughing as beanie has so much space in there, but was all cuddled up in a corner.

Anyway, next appointment is in 4 weeks and here is a pic of today's scan.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/Scan270513_zps12e08a9a.jpg

Sooo glad your scan went well!! That baby certainly has a lovely amount of growing room :D what a cute pic!!
My NT scan is at 9.10am tomorrow!!! I never thought this day would come & now I'm nervous and desperate to know that baby is okay. Deep down, intuitively I feel things are okay but I haven't let myself emotionally connect in case of anything going wrong. I can't wait to start bonding properly.

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[GeCon]

Dreamofpink, crossing my fingers for you for tomorrow. It will be nice for you to hear that all is well and you can start enjoying your pregnancy a bit more. Can't wait to see Mini-Dreamofpink.... without any gender guessing of course. ;)

[Dreamofpink]

With my boys it was way less...but this time, I feel way older and achy all around and having my right knee in pain (not sure exactly why....could be all the running prior to pregnancy, but I don't think so...I will blame my boy for it instead, sat on my knee, jumped on it!!). My hubby and I have been talking that if this pregnancy is all a go, which we feel in our hearts is, that I will take mat. leave the earliest I can get it at 32 weeks.

I feel for you, moving would be such a challenge! Is the house sold already? Good buyers? You are such a trooper to be doing that while preggo!!! My hat is off to you!!!!

Gecon....I want a 20 weeks scan with obvious pix!!! My opportunity might be limited due to the fact that we have few scan options.

I hope your knee feels better soon :) It's horrid feeling rotten but knowing it's for a good cause makes it a lot more acceptable.

I think mat leave at 32 weeks is a good idea. I had a 2 week old by that stage so I'm useless for any advice on that front. The choice was taken away from me. I've been a SAHM since then so mat leave doesn't really feature for me. I will have to give up my cleaning job in the next few weeks as I'm struggling now. It's only 2 hours a week but involves a lot of moving furniture.

We've sold our house to some picky buyers, but they are very keen. Buying a much bigger house, which makes dc4 more likely! Hopefully if it all goes well, we'll be moving mid-end July. Last time we moved from Scotland to England when I was 30 weeks pg with ds2, so this will be easier as we're only moving half hour away. Still stressful though & ds1 is quite sensitive and anxious atm.

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[Niva]

DreamofPink, thanks for your kind words! The same sentiments were going through my mind, too, about being glad of a bfn right now. :) I do feel rather rotten but am getting excellent care in the hospital and lots of rest. DH is getting a tase of being a stay-at-home parent right now and he's doing great, but I can tell he's growing some extra respect for that job too -- not a bad thing! :)

Hope your house selling concludes quickly. Are your picky buyers first-time homeowners? We were totally picky when we bought our house, our first, but now that we've been in it a while I realize how silly we were to insist on some of those finicky little things that we did. :)

Can't wait to see your scan pics tomorrow! I'm with you on not finding out or guessing on gender early on. It just creates more stress, IMHO. I may even decide to go "green team" my next pregnancy...

[GeCon]

Dreamofpink, hope all went well at your appointment this morning.

Niva, I admire your patience. I don't think I could wait until the birth... I am way too impatient.

[Cagirl09]

Gecon, so great to see your little beanie! So cute!

Dream of Pink, hope you enjoy your scan today! Once some of the anxiety subsides it will be so fun to see baby!

Niva, I'm so so sorry about the appendicitis! I agree that it will likely sway pink, but understand all too well that the delay is probably quite frustrating. Love that DH is getting a taste of what it is like to be a full-time mommy! He sounds like a great hubby!

My temps finally showed a clear rise, but it wasn't until several days after my opk, so I'm not exactly sure when I ovulated. I guess our attempt could be anywhere from O-1 to O-3 and I'm currently somewhere between 6 and 8dpo. I've had some mild left sided pain and cramping similar to last time, so I'm hopeful, but of course not convinced or expecting it. I guess I will start testing on Thursday or Friday.

[Cagirl09]

Ladybugs, can't believe you are 12 weeks already! Where in the world does the time go?! How are you feeling?

[I Love Ladybugs]

Dreamofpink...waiting patiently for news of your scan!! Wow....about your DS1 and his timing, how long was he in the NICU? And I in awe of your moving countries while :pregnant: .....you have yet to have an uneventual pregnany, maybe DC4 is going to be the peace and calm time!!!

The more I think about mat. leave, I feel that going at 32 weeks is the best this time around. My DS2 is the one who I would be doing this for....he is my little man and I think that with his brother going to school, he may feel left out of things. The problem is we have a year off, and I just want to go back parttime....meaning that the new baby would be 10 months and I might not have as much control over hours then. What to do?

Niva....get better soon! How is that hospital food? Good for your hubby to get to experience the single parent side of it....they learn so much when we don't have to do it for them!!

Gecon...you little bean is so cute!! All that space to grow in and already a snugglebug!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Cagirl...I hope that this is your month!!! The funny thing is that I love the month of May and it disappeared so quickly this year.....and I have a feeling that while ttc and being preggo at this time of year (never had been pregnant from April 7-June 9) is making it feel different. Mind you, I am daydreaming that the m/s will disappear today on the spot and my mindless eating will be curbed!
How do you feel about your attempt??? Any symptoms yet??????

[Cagirl09]

Thanks ladybugs! I actually feel pretty similarly about losing the months I love to sway! In "normal" years, I would be working out, eating super healthy, and I would be in the sun as much as possible during this time of year, but I'm missing all of that. However, the month is still flying by for me as well. I do hope you feel better soon. I have definitely heard that it can happen just as you describe it too. That people can feel terrible and wake up the next morning feeling just fine! Hope this happens for you, and that it happens soon!

I'm not sure how I feel about our chances this month. I definitely feel better knowing that I O'd for sure, I just which I had a better idea about when so I could pinpoint our timing. I haven't had any symptoms aside from the mild cramping, so I guess we will see what the next few days have in store. I did cheat quite a bit on my sway this past holiday weekend, so it would certainly be nice if this is it and that does not matter!

[3boys]

Dreamofpink hope everything's going ok at your scan.

Gecon what a beautiful little bean :) soooo cute.

Cagirl hope this is your month. :)

[Dreamofpink]

Sorry ladies, all went well with little one. Will update later!! :)

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[GeCon]

Great news, Dreamofpink. Looking forward to the update.

[Dreamofpink]

Thank you! Just quickly share my pic before bed then will update in the morning. 11505
Sorry can't get it to go the right way up!

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[I Love Ladybugs]

Dreamofpink....she is so cute!!! I am excited that you had a great visit!

[GeCon]

So cute, Dreamofpink.

[3boys]

Beautiful dreamofpink :)

[GeCon]

Oh Cagirl, that is wonderful news. This really made my day. :fingers: for a sticky bean. What is the plan, will you keep testing? Will you be testing with a Digi?

Do you want me to already add you to the Front Page?

[GeCon]

Looking forward to seeing your tests get darker. Please post some pics when they show up on photos. I completely understand you want to wait a little to be added. Let me know whenever you are ready. :)

[3boys]

Congratulations cagirl. I have my fingers and toes crossed for a sticky bean for you :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Cagirl.....what a wonderful edd and I pray that this is your stickest little pink bean ever!!!! Will be keeping you and babes in my thoughts and prayers!

Good news over here....I had been concerned that Dh was going to talk me into the neighboring town with u/s and that I would be alone again finding out gender. I looked into the cost of private 2d u/s and for $100, we will know if we can't find out during our main anatomy u/s!!! I am so excited that in 8-9 weeks we will know who is hiding in here!!!

[Emily]

I'm back for real and I just pray to God I'm here to stay this time. BFP this morning at what I think is probably 9dpo as the line is pretty clear. Not that dark, but definitely pink and the hubby can definitely see it! A little nervous to make a ticker and to fully celebrate given my recent experience, but I do think I will celebrate at least a little by having breakfast with DS! EDD is 2/10/14!

Wow! What fabulous news!,,

[Cagirl09]

Thank you very much everyone!

Ladybugs, the time will past before you know it!

[Niva]

Dreamofpink, that is one cute bundle in there!! Very glad your scan went well -- knew it would. :)

Cagirl, YAYyyyyyy! Congrats at getting another chance so soon after last time!! I understand your hesitation to believe it yet, and I'm crossing my fingers that you'll soon be reassured of the stickiness. :) :) :)

AF is due tomorrow for me. After all my body went through over the last few days, a bfp would be some pretty bad news, so for once I'm happy to see the usual pre-spotting. Another 16-19 days and we can try again... I am SO ready for the real deal!

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, great news about the scan.

Niva, I think you'll have a really great sway going next cycle, so fingers crossed next cycle will be the one for you.

[GeCon]

7 weeks today and beanie is now the size of a blueberry. :)

[Niva]

Well! I'm floored. Speechless. Pretty amazed and kind of scared too! Never in a million years did I expect this after a negative BLOOD test at 9dpo.
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My intuition kept telling me the blood test was wrong, and I got through quite a few days before yielding and testing... So sad I missed seeing the fade-in! I should have asked DH to bring me my own test sticks while I was in the hospital, because I would have known in an instant that it was a bfp had my "evap" line been darker. Last month the line was obvious on this same batch of ICs one day before a blood test measured 11hgc! Apparently, qualitative blood tests have too high a cutoff (their definition of "clinically pregnant" is probably over 25mIU/ml) to be of any use so early on.

I've been googling nonstop all the risks that my bout of appendicitis put my 10-day old embryo through. The consensus online is that the risk is minimal, but I'm still going to call the hospital to get a list of every single drug -- and most importantly the CT scan's radiation dose -- and ask my doctor about them.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Two awesome bfps....Niva and Cagirl, I pray that you are both preggo with sticky pink beans!! Love both of the testing!!!!

I went for a prenatal today, no heartbeat on doppler, will be going June 14th to listen again, feeling ok about everything, but I would have felt more at ease if the heartbeat would have been found.

[Niva]

Ladybugs, I do hope they find a big strong heartbeat at your next scan. Two weeks is a long time to wait for that! Glad your intuition says everything is okay. :)

Cagirl, we have been on such similar journeys! My edd, according to ff, would be February 7th. What's yours? Feb 5th is DS's bday... Oh well, one more thing they'll share! And if they end up sharing boyhood too, that'll be okay. :) I actually think my pink chances are not that great this cycle, but I'm fine with that, really!

[Cagirl09]

Ladybugs, yes I hope that the time passes quickly before your next scan. I have heard that it can be difficult to locate the heartbeat with a doppler sometimes, and that a lot of being able to hear the heartbeat so early is dependent on baby's position. Definitely glad you have your intuition to stave off any anxiety. Funny that you mention the intution too because I already have a much better feeling about this pregnancy than I did the last one. I hope my gut is right!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I have to feel that all is ok.....this baby is not allowed to be so sneaky next visit! I think that s/he is hiding low, and that intution is to be listened to! Cagirl, I am glad that you feel so positive about this pregnancy!!

[GeCon]

Cagirl, great news on the tests. And I think the Digi being positive already is awesome.

Niva, wow! I have to admit I had this feeling for you this cycle and there it is as clear as can be. Try not to worry abou the risks, because this little baby was obviously meant to be. Of course it s good though that you are checking with the doctor and hospital though.

Cagirl and Niva, I really, really hope that these little beans are sticky for you both and I can add you to the 1st post shortly. :fingers: and :fx:

Ladybugs, I am sorry that you didn't hear a heartbeat on the doppler, but also immediately thought wee ladybug is probably hiding and snuggled up nicely in there.

[3boys]

Congratulations Niva. Praying for you and cagirl that your beans stay sticky sticky xx

[Charlee]

I have to feel that all is ok.....this baby is not allowed to be so sneaky next visit! I think that s/he is hiding low, and that intution is to be listened to! Cagirl, I am glad that you feel so positive about this pregnancy!!

Aww I know how this could make you worry so I wanted to give you a little solace... I rented a fetal doppler online so I've been doing it daily (yes I'm neurotic like that LOL)... anyway, it's pretty hard to find some days because baby ends up hiding right behind either the placenta or behind that large vein in my abdomen, so it's really hard to hear the heart beat. I sometimes have to get up, drink some juice and walk around for a bit so baby will move. I've heard it every day since I got the doppler, but sometimes it takes a few tries.

Hope this gives you some comfort! This early, baby is so small that it's not easy to find! If your intuiton is telling you all is okay then I would rest easy :)

[Charlee]

Congrats Cagirl and Niva!!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for healthy babies and easy pregnancies :)

[Charlee]

So I have my NT scan scheduled for next Wednesday June 5th!! I will be posting a nub shot (if I can get a decent one) so I want you all to give a guess! I'm so excited to go and see "HER" again :) haha

[GeCon]

Exciting, Charlee. Can't wait to see a pic and have a guess.

[Charlee]

Thanks GeCon :) How are you feeling lately? Any morning sickness? Right around 7 weeks is when it kicked in for me BIG TIME....

[GeCon]

I am not too bad, Charlee. I do feel some sickness and nausea during the day and evening, but it is manageable. I still get very tired though.

How about you?

[Charlee]

I am loads better! I had a very rough month (between weeks 7-11) but morning sickness has eased up a great deal since 12 weeks... thank goodness! I was an absolute mess for a long time lol

Now I'm just obsessing over gender! I can find out in about 2-3 weeks and the suspense is killing me! I have fully prepared myself to hear boy but I'm still holding out hope for a girl :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Aww I know how this could make you worry so I wanted to give you a little solace... I rented a fetal doppler online so I've been doing it daily (yes I'm neurotic like that LOL)... anyway, it's pretty hard to find some days because baby ends up hiding right behind either the placenta or behind that large vein in my abdomen, so it's really hard to hear the heart beat. I sometimes have to get up, drink some juice and walk around for a bit so baby will move. I've heard it every day since I got the doppler, but sometimes it takes a few tries.

Hope this gives you some comfort! This early, baby is so small that it's not easy to find! If your intuiton is telling you all is okay then I would rest easy :)

Thank-you so much!! I feel in my heart of hearts that it is all ok, and am telling myself, it is another chance to touch base with my MD!! And no....you are a concerned mama who has been through so much, I would have owned a doppled if I had your history!! I am glad you have the reassurance of listening to her!!!

[Dreamofpink]

Cagirl & Niva, I'm so thrilled for you both! Many congratulations and hope you have a h&h 9 months!! Niva, that must be one strong baby to hang around during your surgery. How are you feeling now? How long does it take to recover fully?

Ladybugs, sorry you didn't hear a hearbeat last time but it's still early so baby was probably tucked up nice & snug like Gecon said. Here's hoping the next few weeks go by quickly for you and you get the reassurance that you need.

3boys, how are you feeling? Not long until your nt scan now!

Charlee, I can't wait to see your scan pic and hear your nub-guesses. It is exciting and I'm so glad that your m/s has eased up now. My eased off a few days ago, since I hit 13 weeks really. It feels scary being in the second trimester now! Not long 'til you join me! You must be so excited for next Weds!!

Sorry I was absent for a few days, Tuesday turned out to be a day of extremes. The NT scan went very well, although I had to go in & out 3 times for walks, a wee and a jiggle about just to get baby into the right position for the measurements! I purposely didn't look in the nether regions even though I've never particularly got the nub theory and how it works. One shot made my heart jump a little though when baby was upside down & I saw a big rounded lump between it's legs. It immediately made me think "boy", but then "I'm okay with that, it's healthy!" However, on reflection I doubt very much it was anything to do with gender as it was a big lump like almost halfway down to it's knees so it must've been the cord. Please someone reassure me I'm right?!! If it'd been a 20 week scan, I think it would've been more likely maybe.

The one puzzling thing that I will post separately for thoughts on, is how I was dated at 12w5d. By my ov dates I was certain that I was due around the 10th of December which would've put me at around 11w6d. I just don't get it as my prog test, opk+ and ov pains all pointed to the later ov date and we dtd on the night of opk+ and not much in the week prior. Is this just a big baby? I've always been put back a week with both ds's! My prog tests only rose on the later ov date estimation which tallied with my own calculations. Oh well, either way I caught the egg, but I'm not sure how accurate my sway details will be!

Thanks for the comments re nub-guessing but I actually think that I'm the very opposite of what you think - a big cowardly custard! I just don't think I could handle the ups and downs of guessing especially like WAG in the Sept thread who had all girl guesses then had a boy confirmed at her anomaly scan. I really didn't give it much thought at all before my NT scan, I just wanted confirmation that baby was healthy & well. However, once I got home that night, I started looking up the nub-theory. I really can't tell myself, but I'm not brave enough to post up for guesses. I don't mind if it's screaming girl & someone wants to tell me, lol! I can't see anything obvious so either it's hidden or perhaps I have a chance at a girl. I'm glad that the skull theory is for fun as it has a real caveman brow, BUT a lovely rounded head at the back. Ho hum, what will be!

After our scan, we went straight to the solicitors to intruct them to start work on our sale. We picked the children up from a friend's and as I was making lunch at home our estate agent rang to inform us that our pain-in-the-arse buyers had pulled out! It meant that we had to pull out of the purchase on the house that we like too. We're back on the market & have spent the last few days sorting out a few minor issues with the house that had been raised - not enough to pull out of the house sale for, we really don't think the buyers could afford our house anyway. We've had another viewing since by some people who've already sold, but no feedback yet. I then took both boys out yesterday for a full day of quality Mummy-time as it's all getting a bit much for us all and we needed time out. We had a lovely day in the one day of summer that we've had so far this year! Ds1 is convinced that this is a girl, but I'm just not allowing myself to get carried away. I'm more concerned about a vbac after 2 sections and want to try a pregnancy fitness/yoga dvd to try and help me prepare the best I can. I would LOVE to have a natural birth this time & am willing to try anything to help me achieve that. Does anyone have any tips? DH is not being very helpful and bemoaned the fact that I'd be 'slack' if I did manage it! Good job I love him loads & know that he's only teasing! I can't win, as he says atm I have two 'sun-roofs' and if I have a natural birth then I'll be slack! Ha, men!!

[3boys]

Dreamofpink hi Hun, glad your ok. I think as far as scan dates. This is not uncommon. I know from my own experience they have always moved my due date (backwards in some cases forward in others). I am very obsessive about ovulation and have tracked with OPK's and charting etc etc enough to know when I've ovulated (give or take a day being conservative about it). So when they have moved it a whole week I know that it is not because I ovulated later or before I thought by a week. It must be the time the baby takes to implant and just that sometimes the babies are bigger than others. It will not affect your sway attempt sweetheart so try not to worry. I'm always pleased when they move me a week ahead as its on step nearer to te due date YAY :D. I have LP issues so if I listened to when they say I ovulated sometimes it wouldn't even make sense in that particular cycle If you get what I mean!

I'm fine thanks for asking. The scan still feels like a million years away to me, I feel like I'm counting the hours rather than the weeks and days. I don't feel very pregnant which is slightly worrying as I had Hyperemesis last pregnancy so def knew I was pregnant. That being said, I haven't had any reason to believe this baby isn't cooking away in there nicely and I can now feel my uterus above my pubic bone so it must be growing :)

[Niva]

Dreamofpink, haha, your DH is so funny! DS was a vag birth and my DH has never said I felt any different afterwards (after a few months postpartum when I was totally back to normal). Your vj grows lots of extra folds in any pregnancy, and then they go away afterwards when the hormones are no longer there, so the actual stretching during the birth doesn't have a lot to do with it. And if you tear and they sew you up after, they usually make sure to redo it good and tight -- they made mine almost a little TOO tight, lol! Okay, now I'm blushing! Anyway, I'm very supportive of your vbac plan and you can reassure your DH that you'll be good as new by a few months after the birth. :)

Yeah, this bfp was the biggest surprise ever. With negative blood and pee tests at 9dpo, I bet I didn't implant until during the time I was in the hospital. Crazy! I'm feeling so much better now, but the early preggo fatigue has just started to hit me like a brick wall. Nearly all recovered from the surgery itself, but I have that horrible feeling-faint-when-I-stand-up thing all the time now, and all I want to do, even when I'm sitting, is go lie down. Poor DS has not gotten a lot of good mommy playtime lately.

So sorry to hear about your house buyers pulling out. That sucks. But hopefully you'll find another buyer soon and they won't be so picky as the last!

3boys, have you ever been able to tell your OB that you were so sure of your dates that they shouldn't move your due date? That's what I would/will do if that happens to me, because then I'd really know the true status of the baby's growth.

Charlee -- glad your ms has eased up! Three weeks is a long time to wait for the gender confirmation... Crossing my fingers you hear girl, but glad you're okay with boy too. :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Red spotting....just enough to worry me. Not enough to make me fall apart, but I want to run and hide and cry.

Dreamofpink...I think that you have a nice, growing baby in you! And I don't think that you are chicken for not nub guessing..it is a guess, not a for sure deal and the emotional up and downs are not worth it. That sucks about your buyers ducking out, hopefully good interested ones take their place.

Niva.....that is one fighter, being tired is such a good sign! I had to giggle at the tightness following a vag birth...that was me too! I actually had hoped that it would reshape things in the other direction!

[3boys]

Ladybugs I'm so sorry to hear about the spotting. Praying praying praying your little bean is safe!

Niva, most of the time the midwifes in the uk just don't listen and its very very frustrating. They give you it will come when it comes spill. I think it should matter because it can effect all sorts of things like being over due etc. Hopefully you will get a nice OB who will give you some credit for knowing your own body :) As I've said before doctors don't realise how obsessive us ladies are about TTC and knowing our own bodies.

[Dreamofpink]

3boys, thanks for your thoughts and experience on the whole scan issue. I really don't know what to believe anymore regarding my ovulation but knowing my body like I do I'd still put a lot of money on my ovulation being on cd20, like I FELT and saw on my opk+ digi plus prog results - not earlier. I'm glad that you don't have hyperemesis this time round, although I can totally understand why you'd feel unnerved by it! I still give my boobs a good squeeze each day to make sure they're still tender despite seeing a healthy baby on the screen!

Niva, your baby was truly meant to be!! The exhaustion is a brilliant sign of early pg so your little one should be growing away strongly in there. Thanks for the support re the vbac and advice re down there! I'll reassure dh that things needn't change if I'm successful with my vbac. I need to read up a bit more on it and show my consultant that I'm serious about it.

Ladybugs, red spotting must be so scary. Have you contacted your midwife? The advice here is to do so immediately, although thankfully I haven't had that experience. I'll be thinking of you and hoping that everything is okay for you. :hugs:

[I Love Ladybugs]

I figure one of two things....if it comes to being a flow situation, the only option is the ER. If it stays spotting or goes away, then I will only contact the clinic if I still feel all over the place. It gets me out of mowing the lawn today :) Dreamofpink...I wish that I had a midwife to call!

As for scans, I only used OPKs with ds2 and had an early scan, but he did not match up to OPK's and O pains, I do believe that he was a very late implanter. It was hard to hear how far behind he measured knowing dates...so it is cool that your bean is farther ahead!!

[Dreamofpink]

I figure one of two things....if it comes to being a flow situation, the only option is the ER. If it stays spotting or goes away, then I will only contact the clinic if I still feel all over the place. It gets me out of mowing the lawn today :) Dreamofpink...I wish that I had a midwife to call!

As for scans, I only used OPKs with ds2 and had an early scan, but he did not match up to OPK's and O pains, I do believe that he was a very late implanter. It was hard to hear how far behind he measured knowing dates...so it is cool that your bean is farther ahead!!

It might be cool but it's doing my head in! Lol!! I'm a nutcase and should stop overthinking everything I guess.
I'm so glad that you're taking it easy. How come you don't have a midwife? Did you have spotting like this with your two boys? I so hope everything's okay for you :heart: :hugs:

[I Love Ladybugs]

Small community, clinic only, no midwifes....

I spotted with both of the boys and in all losses except for the first, I bled red the day I m/c then. Actually, with DS1, it was continual bleeding and spotting until 14 weeks...and DS2 until week 10.

My mind is doing the crazy here too....I am trying to be mellow and just fine with it. This baby will be my Christmas miracle in every way...I can't doubt that!

[Niva]

Oh, Ladybugs, I do so hope everything is fine for you! It's a good sign that you spotted with your boys too, because then you know things CAN turn out fine after spotting. I'd try to get seen by your clinic when it is open, even if the spotting stops, just to get another chance to check on the heartbeat sooner... Good luck, keep us posted! :nails:

[I Love Ladybugs]

Oh, Ladybugs, I do so hope everything is fine for you! It's a good sign that you spotted with your boys too, because then you know things CAN turn out fine after spotting. I'd try to get seen by your clinic when it is open, even if the spotting stops, just to get another chance to check on the heartbeat sooner... Good luck, keep us posted! :nails:

Not spotting right now....I am going to check in with my clinic on Monday if I still feel like this. I just snuggled my boys extra long and hard this afternoon, they are amazing blessings!!
Niva....I just love reading your siggie! And I am so excited for both you and Cagirl...praying that your valentine's are pink and frilly!

[Emily]

Wow congratulates Niva! What brilliant news.

Ladybugs, am keeping everything crossed for you. Good that the spotting has eased up now. Going to your clinic will out your mind at rest. Don't worry about not having a midwife, I find that at timrpes like these seeing someone with more medical clout is more reassuring.

Dreamof pink how exciting to be able to feel your bump likethat . I have a bit if a podge growing but it just looks like I need to do a few sit ups and isn't noticeable unless I wear something tight. Just do your pelvic floor exercises and tell DH he is looking a bit slack these days lol.

I have had a lovely weekend away without the children (first time ever) and have told a few of my closest friends here in England that I am of as I didn't want to h ave to lie. I know that they won't tell anyone or mention it on FB so it was lovely to get excited about it with them. Only one person said I was crazy to have three!

[3boys]

Ladybugs, again sending love. Def a positive that you bled with your DS'. It's not such a bad thing not having a midwife because at the end of the day they can't actually do anything about the bleeding and I can find them to be quite pessimistic at times which of course you don't need! I agree with Emily seeing someone higher up at the hospital can be more reassuring.

Emily glad you had a good time away! Sounds like bliss a weekend without the children. It's half term here and I could do with a break lol.

[Cagirl09]

Ladybugs, I'm thinking of you. How are you doing today. Is the spotting still at bay? I hope you're feeling okay through all of this. Cant wait for you to get some reassuring news soon!

Emily, your weekend away sounds fantastic! And I'm so glad you had the opportunity to celebrate your pregnancy with a few close friends. That is just so exciting!

Dream of Pink, its incredibly exciting to be able to feel your baby bump! I can't wait to get to that phase. At this early phase the bloat is so bad that there are times in the day that I look like 15weeks preggo, but that is obviously not as fun! Ha! Can't wait for the real things.

Niva, how are you feeling? Did you ever get any feedback from the MDs about the radiation, etc? I assume that it was so early that all is well, but seems like the reassurance from the professionals might assuage any residual anxiety.

I'm feeling okay for the most part, but I found out so early, that my period is not even late yet... its not due until Tuesday. None the less I have some early symptoms that I didn't have last time including the very early signs of the linea negra. I had no idea that this could show up so early! Fortunately, it is quite light, but I can only assume it will get darker. I just hope it won't give me away before I"m ready to tell people (we have a lot of doctors and nurses in the family who would recognize that), maybe I'll have to break out the one-piece swim suit! I'm still feeling fairly energetic until after dinner at which point the fatigue hits me like a ton of bricks and I have to fight falling asleep with DS in the chair while I'm reading his bedtimes stories.

[I Love Ladybugs]

You girls are so sweet....I feel vastly better this am that the spotting is gone for now, and that it better stay away!!!

Emily...add me to the group who is thrilled about the weekend getaway!! Hopefully you got to enjoy all the foods too.....and being able to divulge top secret preggo info is always fun!!!!

[Charlee]

I caved and did the Intelligender test... and here are the results!

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/charlee1015/boy_zpscc47efde.jpg (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/charlee1015/media/boy_zpscc47efde.jpg.html)

Dh is upset but I'm just kinda laughing! This test is far from accurate... but it was still fun to try it. I have been preparing myself to hear boy all along though... and I am surprisingly okay with it :) That just means we'll go for a fourth LOL

Now if my nub shot is all boy guesses too, I'll be a little more inclined to start believing my sway failed....

[I Love Ladybugs]

Oh Charlee...I had to laugh....that test is notorious for being only 50/50 right!! You are so packing a girl in there, I can't think any differently for you!!!!

[3boys]

Charlee fun to try :) but these tests are based on the ph of your urine and nothing to do with gender. You're little girl's still in there!

[Dreamofpink]

Emily so glad that you had a good weekend away. It must be fab to share your news with your closest friends like that.

Ladybugs, I'm pleased that your spotting has eased off. It must still be a worry for you, I really admire your strength!

Cagirl, wow I can't believe that the linea nigra has appeared so soon, do you always have one with each pg? I've never had one appear so far. Can't wait 'til Tuesday for you!!

Charlee, can't wait for your scan pic on Weds! Did you buy the test online? My dh is happy to stay team green, but I know I can't.

3boys, are you in the UK too? It's half term here too, but it means nothing to us but extra traffic on the roads (tourists!) as we home-educate our two boys. I'll be glad to not get the questions directed at my two, the usual being are you enjoying your half-term? My two look blank for a moment before replying that they don't go to school as they're home-educated! That's always a conversation-killer, although we do get some genuinely interested responses. Not long 'til the summer hols now though, hope we get the weather to match!!

I've been looking and looking at my scan pic and really can't make out anything boyish on it at all. It was taken at 12w5d (by measurements not my dates :() and all the lines in the nether region are in alignment with the spine (which is curled a little). The only thing is that I'm not sure which line constitutes as the nub and if it's even there! I know atomic says the stats are at 90% for le diet & Clomid, I just don't want to be the one to ruin those stats!! Hahaha!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Dreamofpink.....I don't think that you will foul up the stats!! You and all the longtimers are going to be bearing pink bundles this Christmas and New Year!!!

I don't know how strong I am.....I pity cleaned my house. Taking it easy, but did the weird stuff like scrubbing the grooves on the kitchen cabinets, tidied up 3 drawers of kitchen stuff. Did laundry, dishes...cooked, you get the drift, I spent my time avoiding how I feel about it all.

How are you all dealing with the ups and downs of early pregnancy and the gender thoughts? I have been doing good for days in a row, feeling ok to good about another little boy, then it hits me that my daughter may just be a dream in my heart. Probably what will help me is knowing and then moving forward.....either way our family will be blessed and complete.

[Niva]

Cagirl, I'm still waiting on the physicist from the radiology dept. at the hospital to get back to me with an actual number for how much radiation I got, but it was a brand new machine so I imagine it was on the lower end rather than higher. Meanwhile I've been asking Dr. Google about the radiation risks until my head swims, and so far all the studies I've found have been reassuring. Basically the risk is much smaller before 4-8 weeks (I was 3) and after 26 or so, and most studies agree that any real risks are in the 1-2% range, so I just plan on staying in the other 98%. :) I was planning on getting a CVS done at 12 weeks anyway, so all the more reason to do that now and get a completely clean bill of genetic health for the little one. I'm not going to tell anyone I'm pg (except immediate family and friends) until after I get those results back, just in case.

Dreamofpink, that is so wonderful that you home-educate your sons. I was home-educated up until college, and now I'm thinking about it for my own kids. I saw what a toll it took on my mom, but hopefully I can do it in a more balanced way -- maybe with a co-op of other like-minded families -- so every scrap of me-time is not completely taken over. But it gets easier the older the kids are, right? :) My little two-year-old keeps me pretty busy!

Emily, your vacation sounds dreamy! I have not experienced ANY time away from DS yet but it is on the horizon. DH and I have planned a weekend trip together at the end of this month, after dropping DS off at my parents' house. They live in VT and we're in TX, so it's not the kind of thing we can do regularly! How are you feeling, pg-wise?

Ladybugs, so glad your spotting stopped! :)

[Charlee]

Oh I am SO glad you guys don't think that it means much! Honestly I've been moping around the house all day LOL

So other than myself on Wed for my NT scan, who else has DR's appointments or ultrasounds coming up?

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, first of all sorry you had some spotting, but am glad to hear it has stopped. Will you go to the clinic today?

Charlee, as the others said don't waste another minute thinking about the result of the test.

Niva, those stats are very reassuring.

Emily, sounds like you had a great time and I bet it was lovely to share your news with your friends.

Dreamofpink, sorry to hear about your buyers pulling out last minute. :( But hopefully it means that something better will come along for you too.

3boys, exciting about the bump.

Everyone else :wave:

Charlee, we won't see the midwife until another three weeks. But I think Pumpkin has an appointment next Monday, which will hopefully put her mind at ease.

[3boys]

Dreamofpink yeah I'm from the UK. I live in Kent. Good for you homeschooling!! I don't think I have the patience to homeschool my lot, I spend all evening getting them to do homework. I really admire people who do though. Must be fantastic to know exactly what your kids are learning at what time. When mine come home from school I have a hard job getting out of them what they have done for even ten minutes of the day.

Charlee really really really don't worry hunni. These tests are rubbish. They can change from day to day even. You will get people who swear that they work but they a have a 50% chance of being right. I could tell everyone I could predict gender magically. Flip a coin and then tell them head for girls, tails for boys. 50% of my coin flips will be correct doesn't mean I've turned into a physic. If you are inquisitive minded... You can do a little experiment on them. I did with DS3 and I managed to get a girl and boy result in the same day! Lol.

Niva they sound promising odds in your favour! At least if you get the CVS you will be able to rest soundly. Plus the added bonus.... You will find out the sex much quicker! yay :D

I have a midwife appointment on the 13th but nothing until then. Hope Pumpkins appointment comes quickly for her!

[GeCon]

3boys, Pumpkin is still on holiday for a few more days, but no doubt will be waiting impatiently for Monday to come.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon...I doubt I will end up at the clinic, spotting has stopped and I do feel ok, only 11 more days until my visit with her now! How are you feeling????

Niva....I think that your planning is good, those odds are awesome and the bonus of the CVS will calm your mind even more!!!

2lovely....where are you???? How are you doing?????

[Niva]

I don't get my first scan until 7 weeks, so 2.5 weeks from now.

Yes, a cvs will really put my mind at ease! However, I will ask for them not to give me the gender info along with the results. I do NOT want to find out gender that early (that was my biggest mistake with DS, leading to completely unforeseen GD), and I'm considering staying team green the whole way through, even. Now that I've weighted my dice, as Atomic says, and made my throw, just knowing that I did all I could is enough for me. I don't expect to have much, if any, GD if I get a second boy, so I'm just going to enjoy the pregnancy! And if necessary we'll have three kids, hahahahahaha (laughing maniacally)!

[3boys]

I don't blame ya Niva :) sounds like a great plan... I wish I was more patient. I would LOVE a delivery room surprise but I'm too much of a control freak (obviously I've been PG with four boys lol). Team green sounds like a lovely idea. I'm sure you have your little girl in there! :)

[Niva]

Thanks, 3boys! :) I'm not so sure it's a girl ... It was not my finest sway month at ALL! But I can honestly say that I don't mind... What will be, will be. :)

[GeCon]

Can I ask something, ladies? I always thought not finding out was team yellow and team green meant team yellow, but something boy-like was seen at a scan. :think:

[3boys]

All done now... Time to enjoy your pregnancy :) are you still testing?? Lines must be very dark by now! I tested this time round for weeks before my husband ordered me away from the pee sticks lol

[3boys]

I've always believed it to mean the same as yellow. But this might be wrong!? I don't really know. Wonder who thinks of all these terms in the first place? Like DH....... there's never much darling about my husband!! :rofl:

[GeCon]

3boys, that comment about DH made me laugh... :rofl:

[bunnywabbit]

Gecon...I doubt I will end up at the clinic, spotting has stopped and I do feel ok, only 11 more days until my visit with her now! How are you feeling????


Had wondered how you were. So glad your bleeding stopped, can breathe easy and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy... x

Sat here waiting right now - another week and a half until I POAS. Four days past o... feels like four months!

[bunnywabbit]

I caved and did the Intelligender test... and here are the results!


Awesome! Almost wanting to give it a try for a laugh when it's my turn. Kinda wondering how it reads if you have one of each! :D

[I Love Ladybugs]

Bunnywabbit...I hope that you join Niva and Cagirl in having another BFP so soon! And it better be sticky....so want you to not have to go through what I went through to get my oldest boy!
I am glad my spotting stopped...I have been in the btdt with bleeding and spotting in pregnancy.

Team green, yellow, orange...etc. there Gecon.....I figure if they are not team pink or blue, it means not finding out! I was team green, mostly cuz other than bright and dandelion yellow, pale yellow blows. Another reason to call it apple green team... :) Ok, enough on the semantics, I just want to be on team pink like all you girls!!

[Niva]

All done now... Time to enjoy your pregnancy :) are you still testing?? Lines must be very dark by now! I tested this time round for weeks before my husband ordered me away from the pee sticks lol

I hadn't tested since the positive on 13dpo, but tonight I did again with just the IC and it looks about the same. I got my blood redrawn today, with a 4 day gap, so if 13dpo was 66, then today's should be over 132. I'll find out tomorrow by noon. Fingers crossed...

[Niva]

I've always believed it to mean the same as yellow. But this might be wrong!? I don't really know. Wonder who thinks of all these terms in the first place? Like DH....... there's never much darling about my husband!! :rofl:

No clue. I just picked up the usage online, and in context it only ever made sense as "not finding out." Green is my favorite color, and DS's, so I'm gonna stick with that! :)

[GeCon]

Makes sense girls about the colours. Doesn't really matter I guess as long as we all know what we are talking about, which we seem to. I was just wondering really.

[GeCon]

bunnywabbit, the 2ww can feel like forever, can't they? Hope they go past quickly for you and that you hold a nice strong BFP in your hands by the end of it.

Niva, try not to worry about the IC. Fingers crossed that all is well with your results tomorrow. How are you feeling?

Hope everyone is having a lovely sunshiny day!

[3boys]

Bunnywabbit, Praying this 2WW will end in a really strong sticky BFP for you! :D Hope it goes as quickly as can be.

Niva, I find them IC far from accurate when it comes to comparing the darkness. They are so cheap... The amount of dye on one stick compared to another must vary greatly. Good luck with your Beta draw!

Today I am going to take DS3 to the park but I really really need to do some housework when I get home. I've turned into a lazy couch potato this pregnancy! Need energy!

[Cagirl09]

Bunnywabbit, Hope the time just flies between now and the end of your 2ww and that you see those lovely 2 pink lines at the end!

Ladybugs, I’m so glad that spotting has stopped. What a relief!

Niva, I agree that the ICs are not that reliable. I have been testing almost daily and some days they are much stronger than others while the FRERS consistently get much stronger, so I wouldn’t put too much stock into them. Hope you gets some good info from both the physicist as well as your doctor about your Hcg levels. And I agree that the CVS will provide great reassurance!

Gecon, hope you’re have a good day too and that you’re feeling well!

3boys, you’re not lazy, You’re building a person! ; ) Truth be told I can’t think of a more important ‘job’ than being mommy! The housework can wait. :)

Hope the rest of you are doing well!

I’m doing okay. As I mentioned above, the lines are getting darker on my tests. I’m still feeling okay about this pregnancy, but I am unfortunately not optimistic that this is my baby girl. I still haven’t called my doctor because she was very clear about her recommendation that we wait two full cycles before we wait to TTC again. I am so worried that she will be annoyed with me for going against her advice. I am wondering when a good time to call and say OOOPs would be!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Cagirl....I would give it two weeks, if things are looking sticky, then book it with her. She will get it that you gave into a moment of passion and be good! I actually waited to call to book the appt. knowing that without spotting this time, they would not book an early appt for me. You stand as good of a chance of having your girl!!!!

[Niva]

In four days, my betas went from 66 to -- drumroll -- 298!! Yay! I think this one will be a sticky one. :)

[GeCon]

That's wonderful news and great numbers, Niva. Are you happy for me to add you to the 1st post?

[3boys]

YAY Niva Fantastic news :happy: so so pleased for you!

Thanks cagirl :) I didnt really get much housework done in the end. Was enjoying the sunshine a bit too much with DS3 but he was happy.

[Niva]

Yes, GeCon, go ahead! :) We can always remove it later if something happens.

Thanks, 3boys!

Bunnywabbit, good luck with your 2ww. Hope you join us newly-pgs soon!

Cagirl, my midwife and most OBs don't book the first appt, the "confirmation of pregnancy," until 7 or 8 weeks. So you can book it now for a few weeks ahead, or give yourself a few weeks to wait and see. I bet this one will stick for you, though! :)

Hope everyone else is feeling good. :wave:

[GeCon]

Nothing will happen with your little bean this time. What's your due date?

[Niva]

Nothing will happen with your little bean this time. What's your due date?

Aww, I like that attitude! :D I feel the same, but I'll feel MUCH better after the CVS comes back normal. My due date, calculated from O day, is February 7th.

[bunnywabbit]

I've always believed it to mean the same as yellow. But this might be wrong!? I don't really know. Wonder who thinks of all these terms in the first place? Like DH....... there's never much darling about my husband!! :rofl:

I thought it was team green that was used. Maybe something along the lines that if you say someone is green it means that they don't know. That's my theory anyway! :bigsmile:

[bunnywabbit]

In four days, my betas went from 66 to -- drumroll -- 298!! Yay! I think this one will be a sticky one. :)

That's fantastic, Niva! FX you have your little girl in there x

[bunnywabbit]

Gah, impatient! Toying with the idea of maybe testing on Sunday instead of Wednesday. A week and a half instead of a fortnight shouldn't make too much difference, should it? Apart from bloodwork, is there a way to tell if it's going to be a sticky?

At this stage, should antibiotics be a problem? Thinking I might need some...

[Niva]

Gah, impatient! Toying with the idea of maybe testing on Sunday instead of Wednesday. A week and a half instead of a fortnight shouldn't make too much difference, should it? Apart from bloodwork, is there a way to tell if it's going to be a sticky?

At this stage, should antibiotics be a problem? Thinking I might need some...

You can always test early -- just know that you might get a bfn before a bfp! I personally like to catch the squinters. :) No, there's no way to tell if it's sticky, and the bloodwork only tells if all is growing well at that moment -- something might always go wrong later on. :(

UTI? Hate those! Tell your PCP or OB that you might be pg and they'll give you antibiotics that are safe during pregnancy.

[3boys]

Bunnywabbit I always test early as like Niva I LOVE seeing the sqinters. They make me excited for the next day when the line might be an itsy bit darker. But then of course you could get a BFN and still be pregnant. On the cycle I conceived. I took a HPT really early and it was negative and I sobbed my heart out that it was never going to happen. I really was upset all day and night only to get a BFP the next day. So lots of wasted tears for me. There's pro's and con's. I'm just really impatient.

[GeCon]

Added you to the 1st post, Niva.

bunnywabbit, if you feel that this is your month, go for it and test a bit earlier, knowing that an early BFN does not necessarily mean you are not pregnant. Have you got any early or First Response tests?

[GeCon]

So other than myself on Wed for my NT scan, who else has DR's appointments or ultrasounds coming up?

Charlee, just wanted to wish you all the best for your scan today and hopefully you will get some lovely pics of Mini-Charlee. Can't wait to see a pic later. What time is your scan?

[Dreamofpink]

Good luck Charlee!!! Can't wait to see some pics of your adorable little bean :D

Sent from my LG-E400 using Tapatalk 2

[GeCon]

Also, welcome back, Pumpkin! :wave:

[3boys]

Good luck charlee at your scan :)

[Emily]

Niva, those sound like great numbers! I have never had mine measured as they don't seem to do it here or where we were in Africa with DS1.

Hope your scan was lovely Charlee. Did you get a peak at any nub shots?

My first doc appointment is tomorrow so I will be grilling him/her about which injections, if any, I can have and bullying him/her into giving me a scan before we leave:)

[GeCon]

So ladies, I am feeling a bit :sigh: When I had my last scan, the doctor said that I ovulated from the right, which also corresponded to the scan prior to ovulation. I didn't really think too much about it, but today I have read a post about ovulation from the right/left = a certain gender. I know that it is not accurate for everyone and read Atomic's take on it too, but I can't stop thinking I may already be out having a :XX:

[Emily]

So ladies, I am feeling a bit :sigh: When I had my last scan, the doctor said that I ovulated from the right, which also corresponded to the scan prior to ovulation. I didn't really think too much about it, but today I have read a post about ovulation from the right/left = a certain gender. I know that it is not accurate for everyone and read Atomic's take on it too, but I can't stop thinking I may already be out having a :XX:

Aw that is just your pg hormones talking. Now that we cannot control things and just wait our minds are going into overdrive. I have had nightmares about my baby not being healthy and everywhere I turn there are people with horror stories about babies born to older mums.

Fingers crossed we both have sticky, healthy pinkies in there.

[GeCon]

I hope you are right, Emily. I think it is also because I know that we will stop at two children, so if we won't have a girl this time, we never will.

[Niva]

GeCon, lots and lots and lots of people who O from the right have girls! And you had the whole LE experience to offset whatever gender imbalance exists between ovaries. I don't think it says anything about your chances. FX your pink bundle is in there, and if not, at least you did everything you possibly could to change the odds.

[Emily]

I hope you are right, Emily. I think it is also because I know that we will stop at two children, so if we won't have a girl this time, we never will.

Yes, we are in the same boat - 3 is bordering on insanity as it is!

[3boys]

Emily... good luck at your doctors appointment tomorrow. Hope you get a scan :)

Gecon... You have such great odds at a girl hun. I think it's more common to ovulate from the right and if you look at the world population it's fairly 50/50 so that means that Tonnes and tonnes of girls are born from right ovulation. I ovulated from the left last pregnancy and I got a boy!! Don't give it a minutes notice. You did the diet... That's way better than what side you ovulate on theory.xx

[GeCon]

Thanks, Niva and 3boys. That's what I keep telling myself. I think 80% of ovulations are from the right. :fx: I am still in with a chance.

Emily, good luck with your appointment today and keep us posted.

[Charlee]

Thanks ladies... I'm on my way to the NT scan now. . The suspense is killing me LOL... I will post a nub guess thread as soon as I get home! :)

[bunnywabbit]

Added you to the 1st post, Niva.

bunnywabbit, if you feel that this is your month, go for it and test a bit earlier, knowing that an early BFN does not necessarily mean you are not pregnant. Have you got any early or First Response tests?

I have early tests, yes. What I'm thinking I'd do is test with a cheapie on Sunday. If BFN will test again on the day, if not really clear I'll test with an early test (which was Wednesday/Thursday, I think). Probably overdoing, but hey...

Talking of which, because I m/c in the middle of last month (so this is my first cycle after), if I get my BFP how would they sort out the due date? Would I use the first day of period AND my last amount of (extended) cycle days?

[Niva]

I have early tests, yes. What I'm thinking I'd do is test with a cheapie on Sunday. If BFN will test again on the day, if not really clear I'll test with an early test (which was Wednesday/Thursday, I think). Probably overdoing, but hey...

Talking of which, because I m/c in the middle of last month (so this is my first cycle after), if I get my BFP how would they sort out the due date? Would I use the first day of period AND my last amount of (extended) cycle days?

If you know the day you ovulated, just count back 14 days from that and tell them that was your lmp. If you don't know, count the first day of bleeding from your m/c as the first day of this cycle. Either way, they'll probably adjust your due date according to your scans. Hoping this is your bfp!

[Dreamofpink]

Niva, we don't have our betas done in the UK so I don't know the what the levels mean BUT that is a huge jump, so I guess it's very good news for you! Well done! Have you got any pg symptoms creeping in yet?

Cagirl, how about you? Have you got any pg symptoms yet? :)

Gecon, I panicked a few weeks ago & pm'd Atomic as I felt this one fluttering mainly on the right of centre. I do understand that fear of it being one gender or the other with regards to the side of the uterus that it's on, but as the others have said, it's no hard or fast rule or else gender scans would be done very early. Please don't worry about it too much!

Emily, hope your Dr's appt goes well tomorrow and you get chance to have a scan done before you leave Spain. :)

Charlee, I'm waiting - hoping it's before my bedtime! ;) - for your update!! Hope it all went very well for you.

3boys, how's the start of a new half-term gone for you this week? Hope the kids have settled back into school okay.

Not much is happening here, I'm still getting a slight bad taste after lunch & tea and nausea occasionally too. I am definitely feeling this one popping and fluttering about and have done since 9 weeks. I did with ds2 too and the midwie thought it was entirely possible. It's a few times everyday and I love feeling it moving around! I'm starting to liberate my maternity trousers now although they're still a little big. I have a very noticeable bump by the afternoon although I can't wait until it's all baby!
I was a very proud mummy today when ds2 won the colouring-in competition at our library! He won it for the youngest age group and was so excited when he found out. We now have even more felt-tips to add to their vast collection, but they spend ages each day drawing and colouring in!

[Charlee]

Well the scan went really well, baby is measuring beautifully... and baby has a whole lot going on between it's legs LOL... I got 3 potty shots but no side view nub pics.... but it looks like a scrotum and penis on the potty shot :( I guess it *could* still be a girl, but I'd be shocked! I'll post pics when I get home and I'll post the link to my thread ...

*SIGH* ... baby is healthy so that's all that matters....

[bunnywabbit]

If you know the day you ovulated, just count back 14 days from that and tell them that was your lmp. If you don't know, count the first day of bleeding from your m/c as the first day of this cycle. Either way, they'll probably adjust your due date according to your scans. Hoping this is your bfp!

Thanks, Niva, I hope so. Went to the dr today for a possible UTI and was talking about the m/c and I asked about due dates. She mentioned I should wait a full cycle before I try again. Hmmm... bit late! Oh well. Didn't really want to wait that long, especially if there's a chance of it helping the sway.

[bunnywabbit]

Well the scan went really well, baby is measuring beautifully... and baby has a whole lot going on between it's legs LOL... I got 3 potty shots but no side view nub pics.... but it looks like a scrotum and penis on the potty shot :( I guess it *could* still be a girl, but I'd be shocked! I'll post pics when I get home and I'll post the link to my thread ...

*SIGH* ... baby is healthy so that's all that matters....

Aww Charlee! Glad little one is healthy. You're right, there's still a chance it's a girl, it's still early days. x

[I Love Ladybugs]

Well the scan went really well, baby is measuring beautifully... and baby has a whole lot going on between it's legs LOL... I got 3 potty shots but no side view nub pics.... but it looks like a scrotum and penis on the potty shot :( I guess it *could* still be a girl, but I'd be shocked! I'll post pics when I get home and I'll post the link to my thread ...

*SIGH* ... baby is healthy so that's all that matters....

I am still holding out girl for you.....like Thorz3000!!! Swollen bits and all....

As for me, I have my big u/s booked for July 15th, but don't know if we can find out gender. If not, the back up plan will take place late on the 23rd....it is going to be a long 6-7 weeks!!!

[3boys]

Bunnywabbit... They only want you to wait a cycle so they can date it better. I've always gone against this advice too. We'll just call ourselves rebels ;) hope you get a nice BFP whenever you chose to test.

Dreamofpink.... I thought I could feel baby the other day! Convinced myself I most be going mad. Maybe I did?! Awww congrats on your DS winning the colouring competition at the library. Bless him. The kids are settling back at school ok, thought id be enjoying the peace but no one gave DS3 the memo!

Charlee.... Congrats on a healthy little baby. Don't count yourself out yet. I think it's too early for potty shots.

Ladybugs.... Gets exiting when you have a possible date you will find out!! :) I hope 6-7 weeks goes quick for you and at the same times quick for all of us. Why don't you think they will be able to tell on the 15th?? You'll be far enough along to make out a little girl by then ;)

Niva.... When's your next beta or is that it now?

AFM.... Heard the HB for the first time on the Doppler today. 172 BPM :) I couldn't be more pleased. Is it normal for it to still be so high at almost eleven weeks? Hope everything's ok!

[I Love Ladybugs]

It is at our local clinic which just may not share that detail of the u/s.....thus forcing us to pay at a private clinic. I realized that the next city over offers 3d and also has a 2d package...they should have labeled it the gender determination one!

[Charlee]

Okay here's the link to my nub guess thread... take a look and give a guess! Be completely honest please :) The GD has set in MAJORLY so nothing will upset me more than I already am to be honest LOL.... my only shred of hope is that potty shots are supposedly unreliable this early... I wasn't able to get a very good nub shot from the side I don't think...

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ultrasound-gender-prediction/30516-charlees-12-5-nt-scan-pics-potty-shots-possible-nub.html#post415287

[Emily]

Thanks, Niva, I hope so. Went to the dr today for a possible UTI and was talking about the m/c and I asked about due dates. She mentioned I should wait a full cycle before I try again. Hmmm... bit late! Oh well. Didn't really want to wait that long, especially if there's a chance of it helping the sway.

My doc to,d me it was fine to try again ASAP. I asked another doc (a friend offthe record) and she said that there isn't any real reason for most people not to try again but that she advises waiting a month to be uber safe. If you get your BFP you will be so chuffed and if not then you can follow their advice!

[GeCon]

Good morning, ladies.

First of all, Charlee, I replied on your other thread, but wanted to say congrats on here again to a healthy baby. I am not sure how the tech could be so sure as it is still too early for a reliable guess.

Dreamofpink, well done on your little one winning the colouring in competition.

Bunnywabbit, if you know your ovulation, I would use a due date calculator by ovulation/conception and then work it backwards to the "normal" LMP. I adjusted my LMP that way and doctor was happy with that calculation at last scan. I done it as with our 1st LO I gave them my real LMP and ended up being dated about a month early until my scan.

Ladybugs, exciting news about your scan. Hopefully they will tell you at your local clinic.

Well, I am 8 weeks today exactly and after yesterday I had a weird vivid dream last night involving a scan and the sonographer not having any pink or yellow paper available, so they had to give me a blue one. I know it is early, but I have sort of convinced myself that this little beanie is another boy and I guess it will give me time to get used to it and moreso the fact that I will never have a girl.

Hope everyone is having a nice day. Lots of sunshine here.

[Niva]

Niva, we don't have our betas done in the UK so I don't know the what the levels mean BUT that is a huge jump, so I guess it's very good news for you! Well done! Have you got any pg symptoms creeping in yet?

...

Not much is happening here, I'm still getting a slight bad taste after lunch & tea and nausea occasionally too. I am definitely feeling this one popping and fluttering about and have done since 9 weeks. I did with ds2 too and the midwie thought it was entirely possible. It's a few times everyday and I love feeling it moving around! I'm starting to liberate my maternity trousers now although they're still a little big. I have a very noticeable bump by the afternoon although I can't wait until it's all baby!
I was a very proud mummy today when ds2 won the colouring-in competition at our library! He won it for the youngest age group and was so excited when he found out. We now have even more felt-tips to add to their vast collection, but they spend ages each day drawing and colouring in!

The HGC (beta) levels should double every 48 hours, and mine doubled more than three time in four days, so whoever is in there is growing at a furious pace. I don't get my HGC tested again unless there is spotting or some other worry... The next thing for me now is my "confirmation" scan, where they look for the heartbeat at around 7 weeks and make sure it's growing where it should. That's two weeks from today for me. Can't wait, that seems like an eternity!

I have been pretty symptom-free this time around except for the complete exhaustion and fatigue. Oh, and hot flashes. Last time I was super hormonal, had lots of sensations in lower tummy, and a very acute sense of smell, but I'm surprisingly normal on those counts right now. No morning sickness, but I didn't get any with DS at any point, so I don't know if I will get some later or not. I'm kinda hoping I do, because maybe that would mean it's more likely a girl? Quite a few moms I know had no ms with boy pgs, but no girl moms I know got to skip that stage.

Can't wait until I have a bump! I loved that feeling, especially when it was all baby. :) Last time I had an anterior placenta so DS was always padded in front... Wasn't until later on that he really got moving. I didn't start feeling him move at all until 16 weeks or so. Hope this one is earlier!

Dreamofpink, so cool about your son's coloring! Those proud moments are so lovely. :)

Charlee, so glad your baby is healthy. I hope you are able to be okay with possibly having a boy, and perhaps you'll be surprised in a good way at your next scan. I agree that it is too early to be sure. A lot of us here on this thread seem to be doing the same thing -- facing the liklihood that we are carrying a boy so that we can come to terms with it. But we are probably not ALL carrying boys -- hope the LE gave us better odds than that! You still have a good chance of the sono tech being wrong about the boy parts, Charlee!

[Emily]

Congrats on a healthy bean Charlee. Fabulous news.

Am a bit confused about why the tech is so sure you are having a boy though. I thought the only difference in nubs at this age was the angle of the dangle and that both sexes had swollen bits in the potty shot. Celebrate the healthy bit now and some back to the gender later as 12 weeks is so early especially if the tech wasn't going by angle.

I had a quick peak at my bean in my doc app today. It looked more like a potato than a baby but a potato with a heartbeat so am chuffed to bits.

[Niva]

Congrats, congrats Emily!! That heartbeat is the GREATEST sound in the world! Haha they all look like potatoes at this point! You made me laugh out loud. :D

[Charlee]

Congrats on a healthy bean Charlee. Fabulous news.

Am a bit confused about why the tech is so sure you are having a boy though. I thought the only difference in nubs at this age was the angle of the dangle and that both sexes had swollen bits in the potty shot. Celebrate the healthy bit now and some back to the gender later as 12 weeks is so early especially if the tech wasn't going by angle.

I had a quick peak at my bean in my doc app today. It looked more like a potato than a baby but a potato with a heartbeat so am chuffed to bits.

SO glad your baby looked great and you got to see the hb :) Best feeling in the world!

Well, I'm with you on the tech's wrongly assuming boy every single time they see a protruding nub. They said this with my DD too... I don't understand! Haven't they heard of nub theory?? The tech was convinced my DD was a boy too, but chromosome tests clearly confirmed she was a girl... sooooo I guess the jury is out till my gender scan!

Having said all of that, I DO kind of think it's a boy... there was an awful lot going on in those potty shots LOL

[Emily]

SO glad your baby looked great and you got to see the hb :) Best feeling in the world!

Well, I'm with you on the tech's wrongly assuming boy every single time they see a protruding nub. They said this with my DD too... I don't understand! Haven't they heard of nub theory?? The tech was convinced my DD was a boy too, but chromosome tests clearly confirmed she was a girl... sooooo I guess the jury is out till my gender scan!

Having said all of that, I DO kind of think it's a boy... there was an awful lot going on in those potty shots LOL

I have another scan in 2 weeks so hopefully will see something more human looking then. I am convinced this is a boy too - perhaps it is self preservation or just habit as blue rules here! Seeing the heartbeat was great as I have kind of worked myself up into a bit if a state about it not being healthy as I am ancient and paranoid!

[3boys]

I'm sure mine is a boy too. I have turned into a hairy ape woman this pregnancy.b I'm sure there must be lots of testosterone circulating my body! I have hair everywhere!! It's even growing on my boobs. I'm really painting a beautiful image for you gals ay ;)

Emily when I last saw my bubs it looked like a raisin, I'm hoping its now at potatoe with your lil one :)

[Pumpkin2011]

Ladies I am back from my vacation. Unfortunately I miscarrid my little one at 7w3d and I am so done with the world. This pregnancy felt so good, it felt right and I enjoyed every minute of it. I wouldn´t have thought it would be so hard to read about you guys talking about gender already but now it feels like I should be talking with you about this. Vacation distracted me pretty good but now we are home and DH is back to work he is not here anymore to support me and all this time I have now to realize that this is happening to me AGAIN is killing me.

It was nice being here with you even if it was not for very long but I don´t belong here anymore. I wish all you lovely ladies a healthy and happy pregnancy enjoy it as much as you can :bighug:.

[Charlee]

Pumpkin you will ALWAYS belong here with us, no matter if you're pregnant or not, having a boy, having a girl or not having anymore children at all! You are our FRIEND, and that's what friends are for... we're not just here for the good times, we're here for times like this too my dear :hugs:

I already said it on the other thread but I am so so sorry. Please pm me if I can do anything at all for you, okay?

I wish I could give you a massive hug right now...

[3boys]

Oh pumpkin, I'm so so sorry. I can't believe you are having to go through this again. Life can be so cruel. You are in my heart sweetheart. Please don't leave :( you belong here! I wish there was something I could say or do but know I send hugs xxxx

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pumpkin......I am so, so sorry for your loss, the pregnancies that I bonded to right off the bat were the tougher losses to go through. (((hugs))) I pray for your emotional and physical healing....and that you will conceive and hold your sweet girl in your arms.

Charlee....I was working all day, but just wanted you to know that your scan and you were in my thoughts all day. I just feel that this is your girl....and I feel so bad that GD hit you so hard. Having a 4th sweet child would be amazing!! I say go for it if your man is on board....I would in a heartbeat if my DH wanted one more after this baby.

I am in limbo.....I have booked my u/s in town and my husband is trying to force me to change it to the city in hopes that they will divulge gender. There is the option of a $80 + tax 15 mins u/s the evening of the July 23 that we could book that would mean we would find out together.

[bunnywabbit]

Aww Pumpkin :( I truly am sorry. This is how I felt when I lost mine at 4 weeks. What has kept me going is telling myself 'this WILL sway girl' and be damn stubborn and get right back on it as soon as I'm done with the bleed. FX for your next sticky pink bean. We're here for you. :hugs:

[bunnywabbit]

I am in limbo.....I have booked my u/s in town and my husband is trying to force me to change it to the city in hopes that they will divulge gender. There is the option of a $80 + tax 15 mins u/s the evening of the July 23 that we could book that would mean we would find out together.

Aww, if you could get to see the scan together, that'd be lovely. Is a little way away though, do you think you can hold out that long? :wink:

[Emily]

Oh pumpkin, I am so very very sorry to hear your news. I know that there is nothing that I can say that will make you feel better but I really wish there was.

I hope that your doctor was able to give you some reason for the miscarriage. You know you can carry a healthy baby to term so it isnt anything in your make up. maybe this fetus had serious problems and wouldn't have made it full term. I know this will be hard to read and some people will think this is a heartless thing to say, but some problems are best left to nature to solve. I have just returned from seeing a friends little boy who has severe downs and is almost totally deaf and blind. He has hearing aids and glasses but cannot wear them at the same time as it is too overwhelming and makes him bang his little head on the table or wall. He has very little quality if life and my friend sometimes wishes she could end his suffering. Your fetus wouldn't have suffered. Sometimes God just takes things into his hands.

I understand your not wanting to post on here for a while as i found all the pregnancy chat as depressing as hell after my chemical. However, we are your friends and are here for you to unload on, so many of us have had miscarriages and will be happy to talk you through this time. Many people IRL just don't do that. You are not alone. PM us or Facebook us if you don't want to come on the forum for a while. TTC pink and beyond is just that, beyond everything, a link for ladies who are there for each other in good times and bad.

I really hope i havent upset you with anything i have said, i just wanted to reach out and hug you x

[GeCon]

Pumpkin, I am so, so sorry. Words cannot describe how incredibly sad I feel for you. I do agree with Charlee and Emily though that we are here in good times and in bad times and we would love to continue to support you and share your path with you. I do, of course, understand completely if you feel it too painful to come on here, especially as things are still so fresh.

Good luck for Monday. I hope the upcoming appointments will give you some answers and the necessary medical support to carry your little girl full term in the near future. :hugs:

[Cagirl09]

Hi ladies,
Niva, congrats on those betas! That fabulous and must be so reassuring.

Ladybugs, yes I think that is a good idea. I’m thinking I will call when I’m around 6 weeks, so there is still time to get me in for an appointment between 8 and 10 weeks. What scan is it that you are having on the 15th of July? Seems like they should be able to tell you the gender by then? Or are you thinking they won’t even if you specifically ask?

Emily, what kind of injections are you looking to get? So glad to you got to hear the heartbeat! Amazing!

Gecon, I’m sorry you’re stressing. I can truly sympathize because I have this feeling that I am totally out for pink based on where I have pains, but I agree with Emily that this may be just hormones and our minds going into overdrive. I hope our group goes down in gender dreaming history because we all have our little pinkies!

Bunnywabbit, I would use your O date to figure out your due date. That is what I am doing after the m/c in April/May. Good luck on Sunday! Any early pregnancy symptoms? Oh and my doctor mentioned that I wait 2 cycles, I obviously didn’t. I think a part of that is to allow time for emotional healing. Nonetheless I did several searches in research journals to find studies that indicate that this is bad and I didn’t find one current article.

Dream of Pink, how exciting to break out the maternity wear! I can’t wait for the phase!

Charlee, so great that your scan went well and baby looks healthy! Such a blessing!

3boys, hooray for a heartbeat! I can’t wait to hear that beautiful sound!! Thrilled for you! To me, that is when this all really starts to sink in!

Pumpkin, I am so very sorry for your loss. I will pray for a speedy emotional and physical recovery for you.

[bunnywabbit]

Bunnywabbit, I would use your O date to figure out your due date. That is what I am doing after the m/c in April/May. Good luck on Sunday! Any early pregnancy symptoms? Oh and my doctor mentioned that I wait 2 cycles, I obviously didn’t. I think a part of that is to allow time for emotional healing. Nonetheless I did several searches in research journals to find studies that indicate that this is bad and I didn’t find one current article.


No pregnancy symptoms for this one, but then I didn't for the one I m/c either. BFN#1 this morning. Testing again on Wednesday (or Sunday if I can't wait that long - seem to be working to the 'three strikes and I'm out' rule!)

[Emily]

Cagirl, I was so excited to hear the heartbeat I completely forgot to ask about injections. I need just about everything from rabies to Japanese encephalitis so it would be easier to list what I don't need! Thanks for reminding me - it will keep my mind off nubsessing when I go back.

Weirdly for someone who needs to be in control I think I won't ask for a nub shot at 12 weeks as I am so convinced that I am carrying a boy I want to not know for a bit longer. I won't wait till delivery though as my boys have enough uncertainty with the move and everything that knowing might help them.

I know what you mean about evening tiredness! I don't get a second wind either!

[3boys]

Cagirl Glad you are feeling ok :) have a good few days away.

Emily I feel the same about the nub. I'm too convinced this is another little fella and at the moment I feel ok about it. If I get the nub shot I will start obsessing and become obsessive about it which will then make my GD rage up to all proportions. I don't really know how to get around this, as I am so familiar with nubs (esp boy ones) that I won't be able to help but see on the ultrasound and I can't very well not look at my own babies scan! I honestly wish I had never heard about nubs. I want to have a gender scan date, go and be told....bam... No obsessing... No what ifs... Just "that's what you're having!" "Deal with it" lol

[I Love Ladybugs]

Woke up today to read my best pals IRL FB status....and she now has just had her team green baby....another girl. She had 2 boys first and now 2 girls....my dream family makeup if I had 4 kids! I am trying to be so excited for her, but my jealousy this moment of getting what I WANT....well, I am needing an attitude adjustment in the next day or so!!

Sorry to be all downer and over the place.....I want all of us to hear pink. I hid out from this thread yesterday after my hubby and I had another fight about finding out gender...he wants me to rebook the u/s for the neighboring city where he thinks we will find out, however, he will have to look after the boys and I would possiblely find out alone (again...just like with DS2). I want him to just splurge on the private u/s and let the boys and I and him enjoy it together.

I will get to personals in a bit....my brain is all over the place!!

[3boys]

I know how you feel ladybugs. I was like that when my brother had a daughter and gave my mum her first grandaughter. I wanted to be happy for them but I was so sad and so jealous. I wanted two boys and two girls which has already gone out of the window! I feel in my heart that this lil one is another boy and I pray that I take the news well. I want so much to just be happy!

Poor thing... Unless you want to of course dont go to the ultrasound on your own. You need someone to hold your hand!

[I Love Ladybugs]

3boys....he has just agreed to me booking it on the 18th!!! Plus, I can honestly say to my family that we did not find out here in town, this is going to be a secret u/s for our immediate family!!

My sister had the first granddaughter, and while we had the first grandson, he was pretty much overlooked as he was not the "family name carrying on" one...if I had my maiden name still I could have laid claim to that! My nephew gets all the "my real grandson" comments..so I know that if I have a third, I better get really thick skin! And if it is a she, well, I will buy my ladybug a cute outfit about 30 mins after finding out she is a she!!

How did you deal with the jealousy? I just want to shake it off...and be content in what I do have!

[3boys]

Only time helped really. Of course once she was here... Being her auntie I totally fell in love with her! I wasn't jealous of my brother or SIL directly (I mean my brother even wanted a boy!!) I was just jealous of the situation, that they had got what I wanted. It seems very immature when you write it down... But that's what GD does to me.

I'm glad he has agreed to book the 18th :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

I am jealous that they are getting what I want...lol, that is petty!! She is going to be another little cutie and my boy will make googlie eyes at her!
I think that it makes me feel like my SIL and brother will have another girl too, and since they are ttcing this summer, I feel that my new baby regardless of gender won't even be acknowledged....that is what is truely fueling my reaction.

[Charlee]

I'm in the middle of a BBQ so im sorry for the lack of personals but I just had to come share this fun bit of news with you all... I felt the baby kick for the first time today!!! He actually rolled around and kicked for a good couple of mins! It's by far the best, most amazing thing about pregnancy IMO :)

Hope you all are having a good weekend :) I'll be back tomorrow morning to chat more...

[I Love Ladybugs]

I'm in the middle of a BBQ so im sorry for the lack of personals but I just had to come share this fun bit of news with you all... I felt the baby kick for the first time today!!! He actually rolled around and kicked for a good couple of mins! It's by far the best, most amazing thing about pregnancy IMO :)

Hope you all are having a good weekend :) I'll be back tomorrow morning to chat more...

So excited for you!!!!! I love feeling movement and I do think that I "might" have felt my little one the other day, but I am holding back thinking that it is movement until I get the heartbeat appt.

[Emily]

Cagirl Glad you are feeling ok :) have a good few days away.

Emily I feel the same about the nub. I'm too convinced this is another little fella and at the moment I feel ok about it. If I get the nub shot I will start obsessing and become obsessive about it which will then make my GD rage up to all proportions. I don't really know how to get around this, as I am so familiar with nubs (esp boy ones) that I won't be able to help but see on the ultrasound and I can't very well not look at my own babies scan! I honestly wish I had never heard about nubs. I want to have a gender scan date, go and be told....bam... No obsessing... No what ifs... Just "that's what you're having!" "Deal with it" lol

OMG that it is exactly it! I need to be told 100% boy so that I don't hope for a mistake or a nub that starts to defy gravity. I am having weird emotions about this pregnancy. I have been packing up boxes of baby clothes and writing down what we need to buy ready for our trip. Any pink stuff doesn't get added to the list as I am so sure that I won't get to use it. Weirdly that doesn't fill me with as much sadness as i thought. Basically if I hadn't swayed pink I wouldn't be having a third so it is a bit like this baby is my bonus baby. At my age the clock is deafening! Obviously I will be sad but I am hoping that GD won't bite so much this time round.

I don't get jealousy around people I know as I can see how happy they are - but people I see in the street get the full strength hatred stare. Heaven help any strangers shouting at little girls!

[Emily]

I'm in the middle of a BBQ so im sorry for the lack of personals but I just had to come share this fun bit of news with you all... I felt the baby kick for the first time today!!! He actually rolled around and kicked for a good couple of mins! It's by far the best, most amazing thing about pregnancy IMO :)
Hope you all are having a good weekend :) I'll be back tomorrow morning to chat more...

OMG Charlee that is amazing. I welling up! I do hope DH doesn't come in as he already laughs about my hormones!

[3boys]

I am jealous that they are getting what I want...lol, that is petty!! She is going to be another little cutie and my boy will make googlie eyes at her!
I think that it makes me feel like my SIL and brother will have another girl too, and since they are ttcing this summer, I feel that my new baby regardless of gender won't even be acknowledged....that is what is truely fueling my reaction.

My mum, openly admits she prefers girls. As I've said before she cried when we find out DS1 was a boy!! The best I can hope for is "oh well" the worst "I'm so sorry". :(

[3boys]

I'm in the middle of a BBQ so im sorry for the lack of personals but I just had to come share this fun bit of news with you all... I felt the baby kick for the first time today!!! He actually rolled around and kicked for a good couple of mins! It's by far the best, most amazing thing about pregnancy IMO :)

Hope you all are having a good weekend :) I'll be back tomorrow morning to chat more...

Awwwww amazing! I can't wait for mine to be moving like that! I've had a few (I think) little taps (maybe) lol

[bunnywabbit]

Tested again this morning - BFN. Strike 2! Retesting on Wednesday if AF doesn't beat me to it...

[3boys]

OMG that it is exactly it! I need to be told 100% boy so that I don't hope for a mistake or a nub that starts to defy gravity. I am having weird emotions about this pregnancy. I have been packing up boxes of baby clothes and writing down what we need to buy ready for our trip. Any pink stuff doesn't get added to the list as I am so sure that I won't get to use it. Weirdly that doesn't fill me with as much sadness as i thought. Basically if I hadn't swayed pink I wouldn't be having a third so it is a bit like this baby is my bonus baby. At my age the clock is deafening! Obviously I will be sad but I am hoping that GD won't bite so much this time round.

I don't get jealousy around people I know as I can see how happy they are - but people I see in the street get the full strength hatred stare. Heaven help any strangers shouting at little girls!

I know what you mean! I feel strangely at peace with the prospect of another boy. Wich is such a nice feeling. I don't want anything to spoil that. I doubt I can get through this whole pregnancy without having GD but I know from experience obsessing makes me a million times worse. I turn Into some sort of forum stalker.... I will find an ultrasound that looks like mine..... I will find a story where a boy miraculously turns into a girl etc etc all to fuel the GD.

I do want to know though before the birth! That I'm 100% sure on.

Also If anyone with a girl in tow ever says to me "cor you've got your hands full with all them boys" they better watch out!!

[bunnywabbit]

I'm in the middle of a BBQ so im sorry for the lack of personals but I just had to come share this fun bit of news with you all... I felt the baby kick for the first time today!!! He actually rolled around and kicked for a good couple of mins! It's by far the best, most amazing thing about pregnancy IMO :)

Hope you all are having a good weekend :) I'll be back tomorrow morning to chat more...

Aww, how lovely! That's got to be the best feeling ever. The little one looks to like BBQs already, bless. ..

[3boys]

Sorry for you BFN bunnywabbit! How many DPO are you?

[2lovelyboys]

Pumpkin, so sorry for you loss! I hope with time you find peace! Remember that we are all here!

Cagirl &Niva, HUGE congratulations on your good news!

Ladybugs, sorry you have had a worrying time? How are things now? Everything settled down? Weeks seem to be flying by!

Charlee congrats on a healthy baby, feeling it move is soooo exciting, made me smile!

Dreamofpink, I had a VBAC with DS2, I would definitely recommend it! The experience was soooo much better and recovery time was amazing!

Hello to all other ladies!

I have just caught up on the thread? For the past couple of weeks I have been hiding, been feeling very down and it appears I have been feeling/ worrying about a lot of the same things as all of you!
I have had my Drs appointment to register pregnancy, am now waiting for my first midwife appointment on 19th June (at 10 weeks!), will just be a paper filling exercise, then have to wait for a date for my NT scan. It's horrible just waiting, hoping and praying all is going well!
Have also been suffering with bad days of GD, am pretty sure this is DS3, not sure if its just self preservation? Want to prepare myself as i really don't want a repeat of how i felt with DS2. My mum has had dreams of a little boy, just hope it's not an omen! My MIL is also quizzing me about gender preferences, she has 3 sons and 4 grandsons, no girls, she Is DESPERATE for a girl in the family!
Think I have just been burying my head in the sand! Sorry for being a moaning Minnie!

[bunnywabbit]

Sorry for you BFN bunnywabbit! How many DPO are you?

I'm 10DPO today, so my 2ww should end on Thursday. AF normally arrives at around 13/14DPO so is whichever comes first at this stage. Not thinking this is my month, tbh. If not, just will AF to hurry up and end and get right back on it, right?

[GeCon]

bunnywabbit, sorry about your BFN, but it is still early.

2lb, :wave:. Nice to see you.

Those who are already feeling the baby move: how exciting!

It looks like we are all going through a similar rollercoaster journey of emotions at the moment. I am trying not to think about it too much and keep busy.

[3boys]

I'm 10DPO today, so my 2ww should end on Thursday. AF normally arrives at around 13/14DPO so is whichever comes first at this stage. Not thinking this is my month, tbh. If not, just will AF to hurry up and end and get right back on it, right?

You never know what tomorrow might bring!! hopefully a BFP :) you will catch that egg honey. If not this month then very soon. X

[Waiting4Daisy]

Hi hope it's ok to introduce myself and post here. I used to be on in gender then moved here. I have three little boys aged 6, 3 and 1 1/2. Wasn't planning to ttc until July but had a sneak attempt and got a bfp at 8dpo so if this baby sticks I'll be due February the 19th. I got a sway plan but couldn't stick to the diet so I ate normally but skipped breakfast, took saw palmetto, vitex and antihistamines and oh took licorice root. Fx for a sticky bean and hope everyone gets their pink sticky bean soon. We will be team green so won't find out until baby arrives!

[GeCon]

Waiting4Daisy, of course it is okay to post here. The more, the merrier. :)

Would you like me to add you to the 1st post? I really admire the patience of all those who wait until birth to find out. There is no way I could do that - too impatient myself. :oops:

[Emily]

Welcome waiting4daisy. Bunnywabbit it is still early days - you aren't even due AF yet and I never got a BFP with my two boys until then.

So, it seems like although we are all dreaming pink we are all convinced that we are carrying or will carry blue! That might be a good self preservatn technique but I am annoyed with myself. I kind of wanted to think that I was carrying pink so that I could enjoy the idea of carrying a DD even if it wasn't true!

How reliable do you think the whole nub angle thing is? I have my scan in a week and a half and am thinking of not trying to guess. Will I kick myself afterwards?

[Mathilde]

Good evening ladies, am going to try clomide and was wondering if anyone of you had any left over? My dr is not the one I want to go to about these things as he'll probably want me to wait another year first..
Mathilde

[Waiting4Daisy]

Gecon thank you, I would love to be added. Tbh ive never gone team green before but I had a dream I had an unplanned home birth and held up the baby to tell everyone it was a tiny baby Daisy so taking it as a sign I should be patient and wait. I feel like I do not make girls so am fully accepting of this as ds4 but I've had two psychics tell me I'd have three boys then a girl and one of them told me my baby girl was coming in 2013!!! Ah well we will see. Congrats on all the bfps and hoping everyone else who is waiting gets theirs soon. Thank you all for the warm welcome.

[GeCon]

Waiting4Daisy, added you. :agree: With your dream and user name, does that mean your little girl would be called Daisy then?

Mathilde, sorry, but I have none left as I fell pregnant on the 2nd cycle and one packet was for two cycles.

Emily, this is what I found about the nub theory:
If you get your scan at 11 weeks, it can be difficult to tell the difference between the genders. A scan at 12 weeks is around 75% accurate and at 13 weeks it's closer to 95% accurate.

[GeCon]

Can you remind me please who else will not be finding out until the birth, so I can add it to the 1st post? I haven't been able to find a green stork, so I hope a yellow one will do.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Thank you hun. Yes Daisy has been our girl name forever so hope I will get to use it. What about your girl name? A yellow stork is certainly fine by me. I am actually quite looking forward to having a birth room surprise since I've never had one before but will prob end up nub sessing anyway!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Welcome Waiting4daisy.....I remember you back from IG! I hope that you get a chance to use your girl name! I had a team green pregnancy with DS1, but DH is going to force my hand this go around too!! He wanted to know with DS2, I am glad I have had the opportunity to have at least one delivery room surprise!!

2lovely.....it is hard to not hide out, I want to disappear for the next few weeks from IRL and the comments when I am announcing that I am pregnant. I don't feel like fielding "you must want a girl" comments this week in particular!! Glad to see your ticker and the weeks flying by!!

Gecon...baby raspberry is looking good! I love that you have one of the bump tickers like mine.....my boy made the comment on week ten that the baby is the size of a rock (prune)!

Bunnywabbit.....you are not out until AF arrives! Hope that you get your sticky bfp soon!

[Emily]

Waiting4Daisy, added you. :agree: With your dream and user name, does that mean your little girl would be called Daisy then?

Mathilde, sorry, but I have none left as I fell pregnant on the 2nd cycle and one packet was for two cycles.

Emily, this is what I found about the nub theory:
If you get your scan at 11 weeks, it can be difficult to tell the difference between the genders. A scan at 12 weeks is around 75% accurate and at 13 weeks it's closer to 95% accurate.

Thanks GEcon, my scan is 12 weeks on the dot but the last scan was measuring slightly under and AF was a bit weird for the last few months before my BFP so I could be looking at 11.5 weeks so I guess I could be looking at no more than 50 50. I don't think this is high enough odds for all the obsessing that I would do. Hmm tough call. I think I won't ask for any side pictures and just try to enjoy the scan ...... But if I see something I might ask the doc to stop so I can have a closer look- leave it up to the bean to decide!

[3boys]

Waiting for daisy.... Welcome, congratulations on your BFP. :)

Emily and Gecon......My NT scan is at nearly 14 weeks so in theory should be more reliable but that scares me even more. I'm not ready to 'kind of' know in two weeks. And at 14 weeks a boy is going to be sooo obvious. I want to find out at a gender scan where I can mentally prepare for the outcome. Maybe I'm being silly but as much as I'm looking forward to seeing the babe, I'm dreading it just as much!

Its definitely a self-preservation thing thinking its a boy. I'm optimistic when swaying and TTC and then as soon as I'm pregnant it all feels completely hopeless and i think to myself....well its a 95% chance it's going to have a willy... You don't make girls!! Like you Emily I wish I could be more optimistic.

[GeCon]

Sorry ladies, but I need to rant.

Spoke to my mum earlier and we told family about 2 weeks or so ago. So she is asking how I am feeling and I respond "Not too bad really". And she sighs and goes "Oh... just like with your 1st pregnancy". "I mean it is obviously nice that you are feeling good, but sometimes if you are experiencing MS, it could be a little girl."

Well, thanks for that. Not only are you telling me that I may not be carrying a girl, but you are also giving me the strong impression that you'd like us to have a little girl.

Now they don't even know that we'd love to have a little girl, nevermind that we swayed, but this really annoyed me. :mad:

[3boys]

Gecon mum's can be the worst at making you feel like this. My mum said to my SIL in front of me on Sunday. If you're only going to have one child it's best to have a girl! I mean WTH!!!! I was right there in the room and so were my boys!!!

For what it's worth I had MS so bad with DS4 I was in hospital on a drip more than once and he was a boy! It's just an old wives tale.

Don't let her get to you sweetheart. I know its hard but just concentrate on how you feel about this little bubs. That's my new goal for this pregnancy is to just concentrate on how I feel about the baby and sod anyone else. My mum has upset me so many times over gender that I'm not letting it get to me any more. ((Hugs))

[TTCPink]

Hi Everyone! Just checking in and catching up here. We made our two attempts for this cycle and it looks like I am back in the 2WW. Hoping and praying that cycle 11 will be the lucky one! If not I think it is going to be time for me to beg my Dr. for Clomid. I am just so scared about increasing the possibility of twins though. Here's to hoping that this is the month so that I don't have to make that decision!!

Glad to hear you all seem to be coming along well and I know I will be the same....convinced I am carrying another boy if/when I ever get pregnant! I think it's natural to try and prepare and protect ourselves from GD by having that mindset. Statistically there have to be some pink ones though girls, surely you are not all having boys!! I can't wait until we start hearing some news on the gender of these little ones. Exciting!! And for those going team green, what an awesome surprise that will be. Wish I had the strength and patience to consider doing that. In any case, I guess I need to get pregnant first before I start thinking about all of these things....;)

[GeCon]

TTCPink, fingers crossed this is your month and you won't need the Clomid. When will you be starting to test? Should you need the Clomid, just make sure that you take it CD5-9, which is supposed to increase the quality (rather than the quantity if you take it earlier in the cycle) of the egg, which reduces chances of twins.

I have added you to to the 1st post as being cheered on.

3boys, thanks for making me feel better and sorry about your mum being insensitive to you and your boys.

[GeCon]

Thank you hun. Yes Daisy has been our girl name forever so hope I will get to use it. What about your girl name?

I am trying not to think too much about it either way yet. Don't want to get too attached if that makes sense.


Gecon...baby raspberry is looking good! I love that you have one of the bump tickers like mine.....my boy made the comment on week ten that the baby is the size of a rock (prune)!

That made me giggle.

So, who is next for scans? We have our next appointment in 2 weeks, but I don't think there will be a scan this time.

[TTCPink]

Oh wow! Great to know. I have not done my Clomid research yet as I have been hoping I won't need it, but it makes me feel better to know there are options as far as when to take it regarding the increase of the possibility of twins.

Aw, thanks for adding me to the first post! I hope it brings me luck! :happy:


TTCPink, fingers crossed this is your month and you won't need the Clomid. When will you be starting to test? Should you need the Clomid, just make sure that you take it CD5-9, which is supposed to increase the quality (rather than the quantity if you take it earlier in the cycle) of the egg, which reduces chances of twins.

I have added you to to the 1st post as being cheered on.

3boys, thanks for making me feel better and sorry about your mum being insensitive to you and your boys.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Think morning sickness thing is a myth too. I've felt sicker each pregnancy and all were boys tho luckily never been horribly sick. My friend was sick constantly each pregnancy and had two boys and a girl.

I totally know what you mean with the name thing. I have a panic with each new baby girl being born that she will have that name.

Thank you for the warm welcome.

Sorry your mum was insensitive hun. It sucks when people make these throwaway comments prob with no idea of their impact. Hugs.

[3boys]

Gecon... Glad you feel a bit better! :) tell your mum that the sickness thing is just an OWT. Atomic says that her little Susannah gave her the second least MS of all her children (if I remember rightly). My next scan is in just over weeks.

TTCpink.... Good luck in the 2WW hope it goes quick for you and this is finally your BFP cycle. You are totally right about some of us ending up with girls lol. There has not been a due date group yet where everyone has failed sways. I can't wait to see the gender results coming in!

[Niva]

Hi guys! Sorry I've been out for a while... Real life, you know. I've been feeling a little crampy so I went in for a scan today, and good news is it isn't ectopic, but bad news is it's measuring small. 6 days too small and I'm only 5w3d. So I'm not feeling too hopeful about the viability. :( I'll do another round of blood work and find out on Thursday whether the hormones are still rising appropriately.

It's possible everything is okay and it's just a slow grower, but now I'm kicking myself that we already told both sets of grandparents. I'm fine with starting over again -- a little annoyed at the lost time -- but I know my mom will take it hard. Oh well. What to do.

Glad to hear such good news from everyone else -- Charlee, that's SO fun to feel kicks!! And yes, I'm with everyone else thinking that this one (if it's viable) is most probably a boy, too! But we can't all be having boys, haha. :)

[Emily]

Hi guys! Sorry I've been out for a while... Real life, you know. I've been feeling a little crampy so I went in for a scan today, and good news is it isn't ectopic, but bad news is it's measuring small. 6 days too small and I'm only 5w3d. So I'm not feeling too hopeful about the viability. :( I'll do another round of blood work and find out on Thursday whether the hormones are still rising appropriately.

It's possible everything is okay and it's just a slow grower, but now I'm kicking myself that we already told both sets of grandparents. I'm fine with starting over again -- a little annoyed at the lost time -- but I know my mom will take it hard. Oh well. What to do.

Glad to hear such good news from everyone else -- Charlee, that's SO fun to feel kicks!! And yes, I'm with everyone else thinking that this one (if it's viable) is most probably a boy, too! But we can't all be having boys, haha. :)

Hang in there Niva - scans are only accurate + or minus 3 days so you could be just 3 days small and it is easy to get that much wrong with our cycles on LE. If your blood work is good then go with that. Fingers crossed for you.

My scan was measuring a bit small too which is funny as I tend to have massive babies - perhaps this one will be the first sub 4 kilo baby!

[bunnywabbit]

I'm out of this round - started spotting last night so tested with an early PG test this which confirmed negative. Just waiting for AF to properly kick off so I can try again.

[Niva]

Hang in there Niva - scans are only accurate + or minus 3 days so you could be just 3 days small and it is easy to get that much wrong with our cycles on LE. If your blood work is good then go with that. Fingers crossed for you.

My scan was measuring a bit small too which is funny as I tend to have massive babies - perhaps this one will be the first sub 4 kilo baby!

Thanks, Emily! I didn't know that about the 3 day accuracy. I am holding my breath for Thursday as the numbers will definitely tell more than the scan. I can honestly say I haven't really felt pregnant enough yet to get too invested emotionally, so I'll be fine if the worst happens... Just super annoyed at the ever-increasing age gap between DS and the next. I'm plenty fertile so I'm not worried about how hard it will be to get the next bfp, either; I've just had enough already with these false starts! PLEASE stick, baby!!!!!

Hmm, I wonder if the LE could be making us both measure small? I have probably had low blood sugar more than is good for the pg, since I haven't really been hungry much. No morning sickness, just no desire to go find food unless it's sitting in front of me. I'm sure your bubs will catch up to her siblings eventually, though!

[Niva]

I'm out of this round - started spotting last night so tested with an early PG test this which confirmed negative. Just waiting for AF to properly kick off so I can try again.

Aww sorry, bunnywabbit. Are you going to change anything in your sway this cycle?

Although come to think of it, if you are less than 13 dpo your spotting could still be implantation...

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva....my Ds2 was measuring 6 days behind at the 6 weeks scan, and I knew dates with my OPKs. I had a follow-up at 10 weeks with him and he caught up all the way! He is still small for his age, but he is a steady and slow grower...keep the faith!!!!!

Bunnywabbit...if this is not your cycle, may the next be pink and and BFP be a skip and a dash away!!

TTCpink.....is this cycle feeling like the one for you? Your boys would love a pink baby or two....my DS1 wanted me to have 2 babies in the tummy, he was sad when he saw only one.

Gecon..in a few days, your baby will grad to being an olive....the week of olives is so cute, but prune (rock) week looks kinda icky on the ticker!!! Hope that you have a fantastic week!!

I am with you 3boys on knowing how all our sways have done...I feel such hope for hearing pink for so many of you!

[Emily]

Thanks, Emily! I didn't know that about the 3 day accuracy. I am holding my breath for Thursday as the numbers will definitely tell more than the scan.

Hmm, I wonder if the LE could be making us both measure small? I have probably had low blood sugar more than is good for the pg, since I haven't really been hungry much. No morning sickness, just no desire to go find food unless it's sitting in front of me. I'm sure your bubs will catch up to her siblings eventually, though!

Yep, that was the one piece of info I actually managed to ask at my scan LOL! It depends on the machinery but most modern ones are that good. Also the exact position has an effect.

Very interesting that you should mention LE diet re size - I had a conversation about this with a journalist friend of mine the other day about diet DURING pregnancy. She is researching the elevated levels of SGA (low birth weight) in Spain in the last few years (much higher than in other areas of Europe and higher than say 10 years ago) and a possible link with maternal diet and smoking. I think she said that the difference only happens later on in pregnancy but i will be interested in what she finds out anyway.

Doctors here are very strict on weight gain during pregnancy and EVERYONE I know has been told to cut back on food at some point in their pregnancies. With DS2 my plump doctor mentioned my weight gain and i felt like saying "but in 3 months MY stomach will be gone ......." Doctors also seem to tolerate a few cigarettes a week. She hasn't found any hard facts yet about diet but it seems weird that Spain's numbers have increased so much.

BUnnywabbit July here you come! So much easier to stick to the LE diet in the summer anyway just think of all those salads and low testosterone from being outside in the sun.

[3boys]

Niva, my DS1 was measuring 6 days behind. By the next scan he was only 2 days behind which is where he stayed from then on. I hope everything works out ok for your little babe. Don't lose hope just yet.

bunnywabbit, hoping you get your BFP soon. July is a fantastic month to get a BFP. Two of my friends have little girls conceived in June/July.

Emily, I'm not sure how you held your tounge at the overweight doctor mentioning your pregnancy weight. So rude!! You were pregnant... You should have asked her when she was due?! Lol or was it a guy.

AFM I've had eleven weeks of no MS and then this week I have been feeling really nauseous. I thought at about this stage symptoms were ment to get better not worse!

[2lovelyboys]

Bunnywabbit, sorry for your BFP, but like Emily said hopefully LE will be easier to stick to in a sunnier month!

Niva, keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Gecon, I am definitely finding out gender, no team green/ yellow here!

TTCpink, hope the next 2 weeks fly by for you!

[Niva]

Ladybugs and 3boys, that's so good to hear that at least two of you had the same 6 day lag and you both went on to have good pregnancies! That makes me a lot more hopeful that something isn't necessarily wrong. Although of course I'm on pins and needles until I know more.

GeCon, if this one continues, I will be team green/yellow.

[bunnywabbit]

Aww sorry, bunnywabbit. Are you going to change anything in your sway this cycle?

Although come to think of it, if you are less than 13 dpo your spotting could still be implantation...

I kinda expected it, tbh. Didn't really have symptoms per se last time, but I at least had a twinge or two in my underarm area which made me wonder. Nothing at all this time. Am 12dpo today so the early tests should have picked it up by now. Picked up my last one a little earlier than that. Would be nice, but really not holding my breath. Funnily enough, I'm ok with it. At least it isn't another m/c.

Hmm... this time I might use a little Rephresh again. I couldn't last time because I miscarried and didn't really want to chance complicating things. Have already upped my dose of folic acid and taking other stuff because of the m/c so will see how that goes. I have done my best with the diet, but my logging of foods had lapsed just a little. Need to pay alittle more attention to it this time.

[TTCPink]

I am thinking I had a fakeout ovulation. Huge temp dip today and now EWCM. This happened one other time when I was charting. Hopefully the real deal is coming. Frustrating!

[TTCPink]

Lots of ups and downs in here today! Thinking of you ladies. Niva I will be thinking positive thoughts and hope to hear good news for you and your little one soon. Sorry to hear about the BFN, Bunny.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Niva my friend was measuring behind like you are and baby is 17 weeks and growing fine now do fingers crossed for you. Bunnywabbit hope you get a nice surprise bfp or next time is your cycle xxx

[Niva]

Thank you all. I got my first hcg back today and the bean hasn't noticeably slowed down growth over the last week -- hcg has doubled more than four times in the past seven days. That is very, very good news. The second draw tomorrow will hopefully show another doubling or better, and then I can stop worrying!!

I've always been REALLY bad at keeping myself hydrated. I know this is a total no-no but I just don't feel much thirst, so I forget to drink water. I'm wondering if my gestational sac was small because of that... It's basically fluid in there, right? So I'm trying really hard to stay hydrated now, and I gotta say, it's kind of a pain to have to go pee so often!

I did find out during my scan yesterday that I ovulated from the right this pg. I guess my version of the LE diet didn't cause enough decline in condition to kick the left ovary into action. :( But like I've told you others who worry about O side, it can still go either way for the gender even after having o'd from the right, so I'm trying not to take it too much into account. Still, I'm sure I'm not the only one right now keeping a tally of all the "blue" signs and convinced that they could have canceled out the swaying, haha!

[Dreamofpink]

Hi Ladies, things certainly move quickly in these threads!

Welcome Daisy! :wave: Congrats on your BFP and hope you have a H&H 9 months.

Niva, it's always worrying when things aren't quite as you're expecting but I really hope that your LO is just taking it's sweet time and growing away at it's own pace. :hugs:

TTCpink, it's s good job that you're keeping on top of your ov and haven't been fooled by the fakeout one! I got caught out exactly like that in December and was devasted. At least you still have a great chance of catching the egg this month. :luck: Keeping my fingers crossed that this is your month.

Sorry you had a bfn Bunnywabbit, I really hope that next month's the one for you.

Gecon, Cagirl, Emily, Ladybugs, Charlee & Meeks how are you all doing?!! Hope the first trimester is ticking nicely along for you all, can't believe how fast the weeks are going by now.

I hope I haven't forgotten anyone. Who's next for a scan?

I have my consultant appointment next Tuesday, when I shall present my case for a vba2c. I DO NOT want another c-section unless absolutely necessary. I started on my pregnancy yoga tonight and really enjoyed it! I can't believe that I've never done yoga before, it's wonderful. Baby's been kicking away since, so it must've liked it too. I had a very strange dream last night that I had a 20 week scan and had loads of pics where I immediately said it's a boy isn't it as it had it's hands over it's genitals, football style! I couldn't see any bits at all and the tech wouldn't tell me one way or the other either. I think I just spent too long yesterday googling boy & girl nubs! I know that there's no obvious boy nub on my scan, (it looks quite girly with a flat nub) but I'm not getting too hopeful as it's only one picture and it's never 100% either!

I just feel a bit detached from it all still and the stress of trying to sell our house is getting to me a lot at the moment. I feel really bad as a lot of my friends now have totally different lives to ours now and we've drifted apart. This is the huge disadvantage of home-educating (for now!) as we live a good half hour's drive from either group so we don't get to meet up as regularly as we'd like. When we move we'll be very close to one group, dh's work & my parents too. I really can't wait, but just feel like I'm letting our kids down at the moment. We used to have a great social life here when they were really little, but then my friends' kids started nursery & school and we've drifted apart which really hurts. One lady, with whom I used to be very close has made it clear that we're only suitable for meeting up with in the holidays and as a result we haven't seen her & her kids now since February despite living in the same town. She doesn't even know that I'm pg yet!! It really does hurt and I've been feeling so down about it all, especially as ds1's best friend (also home-ed) lives 50 mins away from us until we move a lot closer. I know that it's all for the best in the long run as we'll have a fab social life again, but at the moment it's tough. It's not easy either as it's not really the done thing in our town and most people treat us as a strange, exotic family! Sorry for the vent ladies, I just needed to get it off my chest. Swimming against the tide, so to speak, is difficult at the best of times and I don't expect everyone to agree with how we've chosen to educate our children, but at the moment it's particularly challenging!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Niva great news! I'm terrible at drinking too but get quite thirsty pregnant. Dreamofpink sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit lonely. I go through moments like that too. Hugs.

I'm so paranoid about losing this baby as had a chemical in march and two before sticky ds3. There was the tiniest big of pinky mucus today but I figure since I still feel I want to spew my guts then I'm ok. FX these babies are not too tricksy! I spotted with all my boys and it was so stressful especially as ds3 prob had a lost twin. Trying not to obsess but its very hard. Good luck to all x

[2lovelyboys]

Sorry ladies, but I need to rant.

Spoke to my mum earlier and we told family about 2 weeks or so ago. So she is asking how I am feeling and I respond "Not too bad really". And she sighs and goes "Oh... just like with your 1st pregnancy". "I mean it is obviously nice that you are feeling good, but sometimes if you are experiencing MS, it could be a little girl."

Well, thanks for that. Not only are you telling me that I may not be carrying a girl, but you are also giving me the strong impression that you'd like us to have a little girl.

Now they don't even know that we'd love to have a little girl, nevermind that we swayed, but this really annoyed me. :mad:


Had the same thing today with my mum! She said (with a look of disappointment on her face) that she is sure I am having a boy, I replied that I did 2 and it didn't improve her mood! Arggggggghhhhhhhhhh

Dreamofpink, I had a successful VBAC with DS1, was definitely worth it! I know two families that home school their children, parents and kids seem to really enjoy it!

Any one else eating like a horse? I'm eating sooooo much and none of it good, craving sweet things and carbs, gonna be the size of a house at this rate!

[Dreamofpink]

2lovelyboys, other people's comments can be so insensitive can't they?! You have a great chance of a :XX: so don't let it get you down. You obviously need the extra cals at the moment, I really think that's a side-effect of being on LE. Don't worry too much, I think if you listen to your body you won't put lots of extra weight on through the pg.
We love home-edding too and our boys really like it, it's just frustrating being in a rural town away from two big home-ed groups. When we do move, it'll make the home-ed fantastic for us, it's just being stuck out in the sticks and not being able to afford the petrol to travel here, there & everywhere for meet-ups. I have to stay positive though as it will change for the better...it's just when!
Big congrats on your VBAC with ds2, it must be a wonderful feeling! :) I tried for a VBAC with ds2, but it didn't happen as I'd had a rather painful internal examination from a rather heavy handed doc on my due date and my waters went that night. I wasn't ready, as labour didn't progress and after 36 hours I ended up reluctantly having another c-section.


Niva, we must've been posting at the same time last night. I'm so glad that your blood numbers are going up really well! That's so positive and sounds like you have a real sticky bean in there!


How've you been today Waiting4daisy? Hope you've had no more pink mucus. Spotting must be quite frightening and I hope you don't have any this time around.

[Waiting4Daisy]

So far nothing else so fx it was nothing. I'm eating so much too. And I didn't have le diet weight to gain back either lol!!!

Hope the home ed works out for you. My mil doesn't know I'm expecting but said to ds1 she thinks I'm going to have five boys!!! Grrrr

[Niva]

It's a terrible feeling when people predict more boys for you -- you're already trying so hard to keep hope that a girl could be in your future! I sympathize. Luckily my mom is a little more subtle about it, but she knows I want a girl (I confided in her during my GD with ds1) and she's already trying to make me feel okay about having another boy -- just in case. I know I'll be fine with another boy, but I don't want to dwell on it right now. I'm purposely waiting to find out gender just to keep myself from dwelling on it! (I tend to cause myself way too much in-advance worry, but I'm always fine with things in the moment, so that's why I'm going team green.)

I can tell you from the kids' perspective, dreamofpink, your boys are probably not minding the home-ed challenges as much as you are. I was always completely oblivious to how different my family was from others, and we had many of the same restrictions you have now -- living in the sticks, not having money for every opportunity, and not seeing certain people/friends except a few times a year. It just meant we had more time to go deeply into our own projects, so we didn't mind at all. :) I'm happy for you that you do see a brighter place down the road -- hope it comes soon for you!

We have another parallel, dreamofpink -- my labor with ds1 sounds very much like yours! I have always thought it was the rough internal exam that caused my water to break later that night, and it was only by the skin of my teeth (and a lot of pitocin and therefore an epidural, which I hadn't wanted) that I managed to push out ds1 after 23 hours. And apparently I'm an awesome pusher, thank goodness. :) But I'm still mad at that OB for starting my labor before my body was ready -- I think she probably stripped the membranes without telling me, even though she knew I didn't want ANY interventions. This time, I found myself a midwife. :)

Daisy, hope your spotting has stopped. My one chemical has made me very cautious about this pregnancy too -- I know how you feel. I will post tomorrow with the follow-up numbers, and then I get the heartbeat scan a week from tomorrow. If all is well then, I hope I can let myself relax and start to believe it's for real!

Ttcpink, did you catch the O this time? How many attempts are you doing?
Bunnywabbit, any news? Was it AF or implantation spotting?

2lovelyboys, today was the first day I totally pigged out since stopping the LE diet. I just haven't been hungry at all, even for things I usually can't get enough of. But today we went to my favorite Thai restaurant and I ate more than I would have in two days on the diet. I do hope I don't put on a lot of weight early in the pregnancy, though. Last time I did, and although my total weight gain was not too obnoxious (35 lbs), I spent well past the first trimester simply looking chubby instead of pregnant. I'd love to be that fit-looking girl with an obvious bump, for once! I feel like the LE diet is a double-edged sword -- it has finally given me that chance (I'm still 12lbs below my conception weight for ds1), but I've already gained 3 lbs back simply by eating healthfully again.

[GeCon]

Niva, I thought you may have been another one who won't find out until birth. I will update the 1st post accordingly. Fingers crossed for some good blood results to put your mind at rest a bit until the scan.

Daisy, hoping the spotting has still stayed away.

Dreamofpink, sorry to hear you are feeling a bit stressed and lonely at the moment. :hug2:

2lb, sorry you had similar comments. People including family should just think sometimes and keep their comments to themselves.

TTCPink, have you ovulated yet? I hope you catch your little pink eggy this cycle.

bunnywabbit, any news? If this wasn't your month, the next one has got to be the one for you.

Cagirl, when are you due back and can I add you to the 1st post?

Everyone else :wave: and hope you are doing well.

As for me: I am 9 weeks exactly today, baby is now the size of a green olive. Woohoo!

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon can't believe how quickly time is flying, the size of an olive already :) exciting!

Will any of you be posting scan pics for nub guessing? I know a couple of you have :) I have decided that if I get a good profile pic then I will post it for guesses but I'm not going to ask for one, gonna leave it in the sonographers hands :) thought I would post pic as otherwise I will be at home on my own reading/researching and stressing :)

How are you all feeling?

[Emily]

GeCon can't believe how quickly time is flying, the size of an olive already :) exciting!

Will any of you be posting scan pics for nub guessing? I know a couple of you have :) I have decided that if I get a good profile pic then I will post it for guesses but I'm not going to ask for one, gonna leave it in the sonographers hands :) thought I would post pic as otherwise I will be at home on my own reading/researching and stressing :)

How are you all feeling?

Good idea! I might do the same. :)

[3boys]

I'm finally booked in! I'm now officially pregnant hahaha... Can't believe I've had to wait a day shy of 12 weeks to see anybody! Apparently she's been on holiday for two weeks!

I've caught a bug and been being sick which is why I have been quiet. Hope everyone is ok :)

[bunnywabbit]

bunnywabbit, any news? If this wasn't your month, the next one has got to be the one for you.

Thanks, GeCon. Yeah, AF has stopped by. Holy cramping, much! Had less pain when I m/c. Willing it to end and have calculated my new due date for next cycle. :oops:

[Charlee]

Hello ladies :)

For those of you debating on posting a nub guess thread, let me tell you this.... Unless it's a very clear picture, you will be driven mad by guesses that you think are wrong LOL... well, at least that's how I felt! Because I posted a potty shot, the protruding nub made many people guess boy, which I then felt the need to defend/educate everyone on official nub guessing and the like... it's kind of driven me crazy to be honest :worry: But then it has been kind of fun to have people wondering about gender right along with me so it has it's pluses and minuses.... hopefully your babies cooperate (unlike mine!) and actually give you a good nub shot!

Well I go for my gender scan in just about 36 hours!!! I hope we can get a good idea of gender this early.... if I'm left guessing after this next scan I might just lose my mind LOL

[GeCon]

Wow, less than 36 hours, Charlee. Exciting! What time and time zone is it, so we can all stalk? Be sure to update us as soon as you can.

:fx: you hear pink.

[Niva]

Charlee, so exciting! I will be stalking too!!

Well, my bloodwork wasn't as encouraging as I had hoped. The betas only rose about 50% in two days instead of doubling. There's a chance it could still be fine, and I'm getting another blood draw tomorrow, but I'm not closing my eyes to the likelihood of having to start over again. I just wish I knew the deal already and could get on with whatever comes next.

I'm thinking maybe I'll add exercise to my sway next time around... I kind of regretted not doing it this time, so I'll look on the bright side of getting another chance. :)

[GeCon]

Niva, I am sorry to hear that your results are not as good as you'd hoped.
:hug2: When will you get the results of tomorrow's bloods?

[Dreamofpink]

Niva, I hope that your blood results bring good news for you. Don't lose hope, I'm keeping everything crossed for you. :heart:

[bunnywabbit]

So excitied for your gender scan Charlee. FX for a little girl! x

Really hoping your bloodwork results are better tomorrow, Niva x

[Niva]

Thanks, guys. It's hard to keep hope while mentally preparing to have to start over... I just wish I knew already. I won't hear back about tomorrow's labs until Monday, and then Thursday's scan should confirm things one way or the other. Thanks for all your support -- you guys are great! :HH:

I love that this thread includes both those with real due dates and those slow out of the gate. :) So glad I won't have to worry about getting bumped to a different group if my due date gets pushed back a few more months.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva...just sending you lots of love and hugs. Being in limbo is the toughest when all you want to hear is good news....may the weekend fly right by for you!!!

Charlee.....crossing fingers, toes and all in hopes of you hearing pink!!!

3boys...ew, a bug, you poor thing....I hope that you are on the mend!!!

[Emily]

Charlee I hope your little one behaves tomorrow and you get a conclusive look. I totally get what you mean about the nubsessing. I think I will drive myself crazy if I get a nub shot!

Niva, fingers crossed for you with your blood work. I hope you can keep busy at the weekend.

[2lovelyboys]

Charlee, am eagerly awaiting news!

Niva I'm keeping my fingers crossed that all is well! Limbo is awful!

Well I've started back at my moderate exercise, hoping it lifts my mood. Been a real misery lately!

I think my mum is suffering GD already, she is so convinced that this little one is a boy and keeps telling family she's sure it's a boy, discussing boy names etc. I know she is probably right but she is driving me mad arrrrrggghhhhhh!

Anyone else been researching symptoms for clues on gender? Or am i the only crazy lady? I've spent hours doing it today! I can't compare my previous pregnancies as they were poles apart in ALL respects and both boys so have resorted to the Internet!
Well, according to indicators on the net it's likely I'm having DS3!
I have cold feet, sign of poor circulation and common with those expecting a boy
Mild acne (under the skin) and greasy, signs of increased T levels and a boy
No M/S
And not pleasant but increased body hair again signs of increased T and a boy

((Sigh)) this waiting is sooooooo hard, would be much easy to know either way!

[GeCon]

2lb, sorry to hear that your mum is making things more difficult for you to deal with. I am trying to keep away from googling symptoms and stuff, mainly because I don't think I'll like the outcome. I am with you on the body hair issue though and had the exact same thoughts. :(

[2lovelyboys]

Gecon, google is so dangerous. I did find that a lot of women with our symptoms had boys but some although not as many still had girls, there is still hope!
Have you posted your sway? I haven't yet as I'm waiting until my 12 week scan (still no date for) and confirmation all is well, will post it once its all done!

[GeCon]

Here's the link to my sway.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway/29615-gecon-ttc-girl-sway-attempt.html

You are right, there is still hope and I am still hoping, but I can't help feeling that way... *sigh*

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon, it really is a great sway you couldn't have done anymore! Sorry if I got you down it wasn't my intention! This waiting and gender comments make it worse!

[GeCon]

You're not getting me down, 2lb. It's the way I am feeling and I am glad we can share our feelings on here. And by the looks of it most of us are feeling similarly.

[Dreamofpink]

2lovelyboys - step away from Google!! It'll do your sanity no good at all! I'm guessing that the hair growth maybe influenced a lot by the fact that the LE diet did a lot to lower testosterone levels and now you're eating more normally for you, it's to be expected that your testosterone will increase - hence hair growth. Sooo many women report totally different pg symptoms with children of the same sex, so don't let it get you down :) BTW, I had very dry skin with ds2 and it's even worse & a lot more sensitive this time around. I can't believe you haven't had your 12 week scan date yet!

Gecon, how are you feeling? :heart:

[2lovelyboys]

Dream, that made me feel better, hadn't thought of it that way but its true, LE hopefully lowered T and now I'm back to a healthy diet it may have kick started my system. I'm liking that theory! Still no scan! I have my first midwife appointment on Wednesday at 10 weeks (booked it 3 weeks ago), will be a paper filling exercise, no pregnancy checks :( I'm assuming they will then send of for my scan date?!

GeCon, I agree that we all seem to be feeling the same, it's great to have somewhere to discuss our fears/ worries/concerns etc!

Just another question ladies, DS2 is 11 months old, do you think I would still have elevated levels of T in my blood ****** from my pregnancy with him when I conceived this little one? Yet another comment my mother made!

[GeCon]

I'm okay, thanks for asking, Dreamofpink. I am still getting the occasional sickness/nausea, but it is manageable. How are you? I can't believe you are already 15+1. 6 more days and you could get a private gender scan. When will you be finding out?

[GeCon]

Just another question ladies, DS2 is 11 months old, do you think I would still have elevated levels of T in my blood ****** from my pregnancy with him when I conceived this little one? Yet another comment my mother made!

Not much more to say to this than I don't think so.

[Dreamofpink]

Oh dear, your Mum isn't particularly helpful is she?! I thought I read on the thread about intersex babies that babies produce their own testosterone in utero. I'll see if I can post a link for you. Surely if that's the case, then your levels will be normal for you by now? If you've breastfed ds2 too then that'd be bound to alter your hormone levels, I'd have thought. Don't get too hung up on testosterone levels though. I know that I had quite a few black chin hairs during my pg with ds2 but I was slightly overweight when I conceived him and used my pg as a license to eat whatever I liked! I noticed that my hair growth slowed down when I was at my lowest weight on LE, but it did increase slightly once I got pg.
It's now not back to pre-le levels but the one thing that I have noticed is my hairs are not as coarse now and are much softer & lighter (on my legs, chin) That's quite a big change for me, but I was in poor health before I fell pg and now I'm busy growing another baby, so I guess my hair's the last thing my body worries about!

[2lovelyboys]

DreamofPink, you sound very sensible and your answers make sense! Certainly feel calmer now! Definitely need to avoid google!

Thank you ladies for you comments. I think my mum is desperate for me to have a DD and has convinced herself its a boy to prevent her own GD!

[Dreamofpink]

I'm okay, thanks for asking, Dreamofpink. I am still getting the occasional sickness/nausea, but it is manageable. How are you? I can't believe you are already 15+1. 6 more days and you could get a private gender scan. When will you be finding out?

Glad you're feeling better re the m/s. It's so hard not to have days when the GD kicks in and you're left feeling hopeless about the gender isn't it? I think I was so single-minded on getting to my NT scan just to actually make sure there was a baby in there & I wasn't imagining it (lol!) I effectively buried any doubts about gender. I think I was purposely burying my head in the sand. However, on the night of my scan, I couldn't help but let my fingers lead me to google & nub-guessing! THAT was when the GD set in as I had nothing but my next scan to worry about!

I know I could get a private scan done, but I always felt it was frivolous and never did it with either ds. I am happy to wait until my 20-ish week scan (I don't have a date yet) and find out then. I've had a few ladies look at my nub pic and that's enough to make me believe that I was looking in the right area for a nub. I may post it in the Ultrasound section closer to my scan date.

Thanks for asking how I am. Nausea's finally worn off this week, but heartburn has started to creep in! I am still quite tired and getting headaches occasionally, but I'm glad to be in the second trimester. It's going sooo much quicker than the first trimester!

[Dreamofpink]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/30684-xx%3Dfemale-xy%3Dmale-alone-real-3.html

Here you go. Atomic explains it on page two, but the whole thread makes for an interesting read. :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Just a quick little message to let you all know that my wee baby does have a heartbeat!! I will be back later for personals, both boys want to go to the library.

[Charlee]

Welcome back Cagirl :)

Well in case you all missed it on my nub thread I'm officially having a BOY... *SIGH* lol

[I Love Ladybugs]

2lovely...I hope that the weeks fly by for you! I know how long the weeks are when you are waiting for confirmation....being in limboland is a sucky place. I feel finally out of the sticky mental mess I have been in, and now I really can worry about gender, lol...

Charlee....I feel for you right now, I know that you swayed every inch your way for this baby. He is going to be amazing! And feel free to cry, vent and be whatever you need to enjoy this little guy to his fullest.

Gecon....do you have any exciting plans or appts upcoming?

Dreamofpink...I need to stalk you and your unofficial nub guesses...we are just a few weeks away from the big u/s! I can't wait to see who is hiding in there for you!!

More personals in the am....I am just content for the moment in know that this baby had a soothing heartbeat today.

[GeCon]

Charlee, I am sorry you didn't hear pink, but congratulations on your healthy little boy, who is obviously very special and keen to become part of your family. I know it will not be easy all the time as you have swayed so hard, but we are always here if you need to vent or just talk about it.

Cagirl, welcome back and great news on the 1st set of betas. Are you happy for me to add your due date to the 1st post?

Ladybugs, great news on hearing the heartbeat.

Dreamofpink, I admire you for having the willpower to not find out until the 20 weeks scan.

As for me, I have my 1st MW appointment booked for a week on Monday. I am nervous, but also excited to see how things are done here in Germany as my last pregnancy and birth happened in the UK.

[GeCon]

Charlee, one other thing and I hope it does not sound insensitive. Please let me know if at all or when you feel comfortable with me adding the little blue stork next to your name. I completely understand if you don't want me to at all or are not ready yet. No pressure.
:hug2:

[Waiting4Daisy]

Hugs Charlee. You couldn't have done anymore for your sway.

Ladybugs that is great news!! Yah for heartbeat!

Niva fx all is ok.

No more spotting here. I do not want a nub shot as won't be able not to obsess. I am not planning to post it here or on Facebook because I want my team green surprise and last time everyone thought we had not found out and lots of people still guessed boy on nub on my Facebook despite me telling them I wanted a surprise (we had actually found out but weren't telling anyone). I really need to have a surprise with this baby. I am fully accepting it is my fourth son and will assume it is until delivery.

Hugs to all. I'm feeling pretty sick and points but eating seems to help. I will be huge at the end of this pregnancy. I always get a massive preggo bum! Tiny bump but massive bum!

[Emily]

Welcome back Cagirl :)

Well in case you all missed it on my nub thread I'm officially having a BOY... *SIGH* lol

Now you know which must be a relief. This little guy will be amazing and adored by you and your family. How big is he measuring? Did you get to see much? I love it when they look like they are waving or shadow boxing.

I agree with the others feel free to vent and indulge yourself here. GD, as you know, has nothing to do with your love for your boys - after all you were only willing to try for a girl because your other children are so fabulous! It isn't disloyal to them to feel sad. I started a mental list about what I love about boys over girls when I found out DS 2wasnt DD1 - some of then are really silly and totally stereotypical (like boys can pee against trees, boys don't cry as much when they fall over, boys toys are so much cooler, boys don't get PMS and bitch at their menopausal mums) but it helped me at the time.

I will send you my boy scan pic next week;)