Dreaming Pink Due Date Group: TTC and Beyond

[meeks32]

I just found this thread, can I join you?

I am trying to distract myself from the fact my NT scan is on Tuesday, and I may get a nub shot, which will probably show boy, but there may be a teeny but of hope it shows girl (I like to kid myself) so I'm going mad. I'm basically terrified of what it will show. So much that I've barely thought about the potential for the baby to have health issues. I feel horrible for this. Obviously it should be my first concern but I'm completely overwhelmed with gender desire right now, after my ob thought he saw a penis when he did a potty shot at 11 weeks. I can't think about anything else.

Did anyone else feel this way?

[meeks32]

Charlee and ladybugs I have commented on the due date thread about how sorry I am this happened to both of you, but I'll say it again now.

I hope the pain is settling down now Charlee and that you are feeling less shaken and more positive and able to direct those emotions into some positive life changes. It will happen, even if you aren't there yet.

Ladybugs it seems like forever waiting to find out news, I'm sure it will be feeling even longer for you. Fx

[meeks32]

Also... I. Can't. Stop. Eating.

Why can't I stop eating?

Do you think I can still blame over a year on LE? ;-)

Lol no probably not.

[thehappypixi]

Hey Meeks! Nice to 'see' you here :D
I'm in and out of stressing about sex, worst of all is I can't stop imagine a girl as part of our family, I almost feel (and have done for years truthfully) that I have a daughter that I've not met yet, and I miss her like she already exists :( I know my heart will break for her if I hear boy, so I can't decide whether to stay team green til the end, so I can just hold onto the dream as long as I can. I'm going to close my eyes at my NT scan!

[meeks32]

Hi pixi. I know what you mean, completely. I want to know now though because I know I need time to adjust and grieve without feeling guilty and then move past it and get excited before baby is born. I can't imagine trying to do that while sleep deprived, while baby is there, feeling guilty because I have met baby yet still feel sad. My tactic is to find out and have a few weeks to wallow, then lots of weeks to get positive about it before the birth. I get quite emotional anyway while breastfeeding so I don't want anything tipping me over the edge.

But agree with the thought of closing my eyes. I just know its for the best I take the bull by the horns and deal with it sooner rather than later. For me, anyway.

[thehappypixi]

In the past I've had lovely births and find feeding really nice, so I'm thinking the oxytocin loved up feeling for the new baby might be the better choice for me, coz I know I'll love it whatever it is, and my GD probably won't hit me properly for a while as a new baby is fairly gender-less really. I don't know, might be kidding myself, it's just all a big bag of emotional meh right now!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Welcome Meeks!!!!!!!!!!!! I hold out hope that you will have your daughter....you have been so supportive of both your longtimer pals, the winter due date women and even your boo into the opposites thread has been most appreciated!!

Happypixi.....I am more like a hybrid of you and Meeks with the gender acceptance portion. I did struggle with DS2 being a non pink, weanie bearing member when he was in the womb, but the urgent C-section and his subsequent lack of growth could have been so much more of a trigger if I had not resolved my emotions about him not being a girl. I wish you the happy in whatever route you choose!!!

AFM....right now, I choose to make the best of waiting....I have a list of what I want to do today and I refuse to let worry ruin my time. Tuesday is forever away, but it will come and with it the worries of that day. Today is about what is in front of me....my boys, my family, my time.

[Sunflower3]

Just an update in me.

Appears I had a chemical this month. Af started on Thursday. I'm sad but going to ttc this cycle as my blood test showed no traces of hcg left in my system. Fx for this cycle!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Sunflower....I had hoped it was not a chemical for you, so sorry (((hugs))) Wishing a nice sticky BFP for this up coming cycle!!

[Mathilde]

Back from holidays, everydays begin again on Monday;) so much to catch up on!
Charlee: so glad you were kept safe..:) understand that it is priority changing.
Ladybird: good luck! Keeping your little one in my prayers
Other Future-boy mamas: congratulations on healthy blue bundles, in a couple of months they will be exactly what we want, and our all blue families will be so happy with baby brothers:)
AFM, holiday has worked it's charm, tired as anything, and it rubs off on DH;) enjoying reading books, can really recommend "the German boy" by Wolfgang Samuel, a real page turner among my top five!! Am not looking forward to finding out and having my dreams crushed, but glad I will in any case have so good company here! Eat a little more than usual and have lots of gas, sorry, and have felt stretching lately, pee all the time;) seem like I am on Valium all the time. Have a nice evening where ever you are! Hugs Mathilde

[GeCon]

Meeks, of course you can join us. Let me know your due date and I will add you to the 1st post.

I cannot wait to find out, not long now. Scan is booked for Thursday, but I am fairly positive it is another little boy. Even more so after seeing something on my scan video. Trying not to think too much about it just now, but as you know for us there will be only two kiddies... *little sigh*

And yes to the eating. I am currently eating a lot...

Mathilde, welcome back.

Sunflower, sorry to hear your news. Fingers crossed for your next cycle and a sticky pink bean.

[meeks32]

Just an update in me.

Appears I had a chemical this month. Af started on Thursday. I'm sad but going to ttc this cycle as my blood test showed no traces of hcg left in my system. Fx for this cycle!

So sorry, again, sun. Glad at least you can do another month of clomid and not have to take time off. Fx for you this month. Xxxx

[meeks32]

Meeks, of course you can join us. Let me know your due date and I will add you to the 1st post.

I cannot wait to find out, not long now. Scan is booked for Thursday, but I am fairly positive it is another little boy. Even more so after seeing something on my scan video. Trying not to think too much about it just now, but as you know for us there will be only two kiddies... *little sigh*

And yes to the eating. I am currently eating a lot...

Mathilde, welcome back.

Sunflower, sorry to hear your news. Fingers crossed for your next cycle and a sticky pink bean.

Thanks hon. My due date is 18th Feb 2014. I will have to have a caesarian (not thrilled) at 38 weeks though, so most likely first week of feb.

I know that feeling of this being the last, this is our number 3 but defiantly final child, dh is getting the snip after the baby arrives. I am in agreeable because I know even if this is a boy, we couldn't handle 4. Although I always thought I wanted 4, the practicalities of even going from 2 to 3 are hitting me, and I know I don't want to go through 4 caesarians, 4 newborns, and have to find a 5 bedroom house. We have a very demanding ds1 though and mainly I think it would be unfair on the other kids to have another when he already takes so much time and effort. Personal of course, I totally see the benefits and reasons for wanting 4, and probably would myself if dh wasn't so practical.

[GeCon]

Added you with your original due date for now, meeks. I guess we can change them to actual birth datesonce all the little bundles arrive.

I am completely with you on the decision of only having one more child. Logistics, housing etc. would make any more children too difficult for us too.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon....my reasons for 2 were so simple, we have not traveled globally, I am selfish in that I don't want to leave my kids or drag them along! Two kids and travel seemed doable, I feel that I will have to stretch funds, energy, etc. further with 3, but the gamble for a daughter or bonus boy was worth it (and he isn't even here yet!!).

Mathilde...welcome back!!! You and Meeks are not allowed to count yourself out just yet. This thread says dreaming pink and I have to think that someone is going to hold a daughter out of this group!! Or two or three....which brings me to

Sunflower and TTCpink, you both have had rough months....lots of loving and (((hugs))) and wishes for bfps on the next cycle out!

[Tree]

Gecon....my reasons for 2 were so simple, we have not traveled globally, I am selfish in that I don't want to leave my kids or drag them along! Two kids and travel seemed doable, I feel that I will have to stretch funds, energy, etc. further with 3, but the gamble for a daughter or bonus boy was worth it (and he isn't even here yet!!).

Mathilde...welcome back!!! You and Meeks are not allowed to count yourself out just yet. This thread says dreaming pink and I have to think that someone is going to hold a daughter out of this group!! Or two or three....which brings me to

Sunflower and TTCpink, you both have had rough months....lots of loving and (((hugs))) and wishes for bfps on the next cycle out!

I'm having a girl! So that's at least one... Got two boys already.

[meeks32]

Tree you are the only one I know that swayed and is having a girl!

[myrainbowgirl]

Hi ladies!

GeCon - Aaahh!! Your scan is so close! How are you feeling? Excited?? Can't wait for your update. :)

Charlee - Hope you're healing up nicely!

Sunflower - So, so sorry for your chemical. I had one before DS3, and it was hard. I still saw it as a baby, so I had to grieve. :( But, on the bright side, I got pg with DS3 4 weeks later! I've heard you're extra fertile after a miscarriage, and I know that I've heard it sways pink. Fingers crossed and hugs, too!

Ladybugs - Glad you went for it with #3. I'm sure you won't regret it! He will be a sweetie!!

Mathilde - Glad you had a great vacation. So wonderful to come back rejuvenated! Hope you're feeling well. When's your scan?

Meeks - Welcome! Glad to see you on this thread! When's your NT scan?

I am honestly so surprised that (so far) there have been so few girls from all these swaying mommies! I gotta say I just don't get it. Anybody got any theories??

AFM - Still super tired, and still a little nauseous. It's ok, I'm managing! My MaterniT21 bloodwork and NT scan is this Friday. I'll only be 11 wks, 2 days, so I'm sure a nub shot won't be reliable. I think I won't even ask, because I don't want to nubsess, since I'll know gender within 2 weeks after. Will keep the dream alive just a liiitttle bit longer. :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

You want my honest theory.....


LUCK

I really don't think that the sways that have brought the desired genders in the winter due date have been any stronger or better than those bringing us opposites.

I hope that all our babies are healthy.....I know that they will all be so cute!!!

[meeks32]

Well apparently the group due before us had more girl success, and the boy swayers are achieving amazing results, near 90% now! I also think we still have more theories to test with girl sways and there is so much conflicting advice on other websites people get confused. If anyone was on IG sway for example. Also it's much harder to trick your body into thinking it's in declining condition constantly, and still conceive. So girl swayers give up more tactics just to get a baby, which sometimes effects our sways. I also think clomid was seen as far too big a 'silver bullet' and don't believe the stats will stay as high for that. And the exercise stats only appeared recently so the vast majority of us were couch potato-ing it 'just in case' where now we see 1hr per day of cardio 6 days a week is having amazing success.

Also we can't forget we are kind of pioneering this swaying business as its only been going a few years and only recently traceable in any kind of statistics way. Atomic is only one (very amazing) person and she's learning too as we all go through this. In 5 years with thousands of stats to read we will know far more.

Blue swayers have it pretty easy in terms of the body thinking its high nutrient is easy. Snack, take multivitamins, do it every few days. It happens fast for them usually too so it's easier to keep up a sway.

[TTCPink]

Hi Ladies! I haven't touched base here in a bit and am catching up on this thread. So many warm thoughts and prayers to you all. Ladybugs I will pray for positive results at your scan. So sorry you are going through the worry right now...
Charlee, I hope you are healing up quickly. I have missed you on here! I hope you have been feeling better, as I can't imagine what a scare you went through and I am so thankful you and your precious boys were kept safe. Meeks, glad you joined us on this thread! I am so excited to hear the results of your scan, and GeCon shortly thereafter!

As for me, I am finally feeling back to normal after a terrible UTI followed by an allergic reaction to the antibiotic for it. No attempt for this month as DTD was the last thing I could accomplish being in such pain! Luckily we were not planning to try this month anyway since I had basically been eating HE our whole vacation. I am back on the LE wagon now. I have an OB appt. on Tues. Hoping to get some Clomid as it has now officially been a year of charting and TTC for us this time around. Feeling optimistic that my Dr. will explore things at this point!

It should be an exciting week of news and updates from everyone! Prayers for positive news all around!

[TTCPink]

Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.


Well apparently the group due before us had more girl success, and the boy swayers are achieving amazing results, near 90% now! I also think we still have more theories to test with girl sways and there is so much conflicting advice on other websites people get confused. If anyone was on IG sway for example. Also it's much harder to trick your body into thinking it's in declining condition constantly, and still conceive. So girl swayers give up more tactics just to get a baby, which sometimes effects our sways. I also think clomid was seen as far too big a 'silver bullet' and don't believe the stats will stay as high for that. And the exercise stats only appeared recently so the vast majority of us were couch potato-ing it 'just in case' where now we see 1hr per day of cardio 6 days a week is having amazing success.

Also we can't forget we are kind of pioneering this swaying business as its only been going a few years and only recently traceable in any kind of statistics way. Atomic is only one (very amazing) person and she's learning too as we all go through this. In 5 years with thousands of stats to read we will know far more.

Blue swayers have it pretty easy in terms of the body thinking its high nutrient is easy. Snack, take multivitamins, do it every few days. It happens fast for them usually too so it's easier to keep up a sway.

[meeks32]

Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.

If I had my time again, I would. pm atomic about it first though, she said I shouldn't so far into my sway because I was too low BMI already and may stop ov. So its a bit of a case by case thing and perhaps works more effectively at the beginning of a sway when you have more weight to loose. Also make SURE you don't do muscle building exercise or weights, only jogging or treadmill.

[Niva]

Hi everyone! I know it's been a while since I've checked in, but I had to take a little break from the boards. As much as I was enjoying feeling connected to everyone, I realized that reading about everyone's GD was fueling my own. When I took a break, I was able to stop thinking so much about gender. I think I've finally reached a plateau where I'm feeling really excited about having a new little person regardless of gender.

I've been reading through pages and pages of posts... I'm hopelessly behind!

--Charlee, I'm soooo glad you and your boys are ok. What a life-shaking experience. I'm sure your job as a counselor will come in handy as you handle the after-effects. Do you think it will go the other way too, with this experience affecting your perspective as you council others?

--Ladybugs, I'll be checking regularly for updates. As others have said, thank goodness we have two kidneys -- I'm sure your baby will come out healthy even if he only has one.

--Emily, glad you're setting in to your new country, but oh my gosh, I can't believe your boy's misfortunes! Cat bite and finger in a door hinge -- what awful luck! How is he feeling now? And have you decided which doctor/tech you want, and when to book your scan?

--bunnywabbit, sorry your bfp didn't show up yet. Will your mil be around for your next AF-o too? If you're considering taking the month off, maybe also consider starting exercise... As Meeks says, it's getting fabulous results (though yeah, the BMI issue might interfere if you've already lost a lot on the LE). Wish I had known all this before I got my bfp!

--Meeks, welcome! So nice to see you here. I'm glad to see your chemicals finally stopped and you got a sticky bean! I have to admit this is the only thread I've been following, so I missed your big news. Were you still on clomid? If so, how wonderful your pink chances must be right now!

--3lb, any updates -- I must have missed whether you got the final word on your nuchal scan scare? How are you feeling?

--GeCon, you're among the next to find out gender... I'll be stalking! I bet you'll break this crazy blue streak! :)

AFM, I did the MaterniT21 at 10 weeks and got the all-clear at 11. I didn't find out gender from it, though... Still leaning towards staying team green. I have been playing with the idea of finding out the gender a month or two before I'm due, though, just for practical reasons. But I don't want to find out sooner than that, since I've pretty much come to terms with having another boy and I don't think I would benefit by having those extra months to dwell on it. I'd rather just spend those months getting excited about A BABY -- then I know I'll bond with him right away. I found out way too early last time and GD really got in the way of bonding because of all the worries I had about how I'd deal with a boy -- this time feels totally different already. I have so much excitement about this new little life, and I don't want to interfere with that by focusing on gender. So far, so good -- I can totally picture myself being happy with a brother for my DS when I finally meet him! And if it's a sister, well, that would just be icing on the cake (and then I wouldn't have to have a third kid, lol).

Isn't if funny how a second (or third or fourth) pregnancy goes so much faster than the first? I'm 13 weeks and I'm showing already. I'm also feeling the baby move just a little -- so early! I can't believe I'm already in the second trimester... time is just flying by. On the minus side, my headaches and lightheadedness (from the increasing blood volume and fluctuating hormones, my midwife assures me) is much worse this time around. I need to take two extra-strength Tylenol nearly every day for the headaches, and for a while it wasn't even working -- until my mw suggested downing it with a cup of coffee for the caffeine. I don't want to get addicted to caffeine again, but what a relief to get some relief from the headaches. Hopefully this won't last much longer; I do remember feeling much better at a certain point in the second trimester with DS.

Well, I know I've missed a lot of you in the personals, but I'm burning the midnight oil so I'll sign off for now... Still thinking of all of you!

[GeCon]

myrainbowgirl, you are right, it isn't too long now and yes, I do feel excited, but mostly apprehensive as I fear that this might be the end of the dream for me of ever being a girl mummy as well as a boy mummy.

Looking forward to the results of your MaterniT21 test.

I have been wondering about the recent lack of success of pink and apparent success of blue sways too and I agree with both Ladybugs and meeks.

With Ladybugs as I do think that luck still plays a big part in it and with meeks as it does seem easier to get your body to believe that times are good with plenty of food, nutrients. I guess it is somewhat against nature to make your body believe that times are hard and your condition is deteriorating. That is not to say that we do not achieve this by doing what we are doing...

As for me: I know that exercise has been getting excellent results, but quite frankly I would have struggled to fit in an hour exercise every single day with running after an almost 3 year old all day, so I haven't really got any regrets here.

TTCPink, fingers crossed that your doctor will prescribe the Clomid for you and help you conceive your little pink bean.

Niva, nice to see you. Great news on getting the all clear from your MaterniT21 test and I still admire your patience of not finding out at the earliest opportunity.

[Emily]

Reading this makes me want to start exercising like crazy! ;) So many good points here, Meeks!! Thanks for the insight.

I think AS recommends at least 6 weeks exercising before TTC as it can raise testosterone initially. If you can squeeze it in I would do it. I wanted to do it fir my sway but like Meeks my BMI was an issue and i did not want to ruin my chances of Conceiving. Looking at our results and last months it does look a bit like someone up there is rolling a dice. Perhaps people react to weightloss in different ways? It seems so weird that there were so many pink results this time and now only Tree. Sorry if i have missed any lucky pinkies.

Ladybugs i have everything crossed for you and your little one. Where are you based? I think in Europe you can legally ask for a pic or opportunity to take one. I know some places are weird about videos but a photo shouldn't annoy them too much? You could also pretend DH is a luddite completely incapable of taking a photo on his phone and sneak a quick vid.

AFM we have told the boys and they both seem excited. DS1 has said that he only wants a baby if it is a sister though. Quite logically he said that he already has one brother so why would he want another? Not sure if my answer about playing cricket with one and football with another convinced him! DH has to go away for a work trip but we are hoping it wont effect the date of our 20 week scan at the end of next week.

[meeks32]

Nivia, welcome back.

Yes I was on my third month of 50mg clomid, and very thankful to avoid the next round of more intrusive tests and fertility treatments. I'm freaking out though because my 11 week scan the ob showed me a potty shot perspective and there was what he and I thought was a penis like protrusion, and also the intelligender test said boy. I'm expecting a boy nub at my 12w scan tomorrow but will be thrilled if its a girl nub. I do know 11 weeks is the age of the genital tube thing, which both genders have, so the potty shot shouldn't be getting me down, but it is.

In time I will be ok, and even happy about a boy, but its hard while there is uncertainty, you know? If its boy I definitely need time to process, given the fact I tried so SO hard and will be a little disappointed, even though I knew the chance I was taking, and truly believe swaying gave me my best chance of my desired gender. This is our last child and although I will have no regrets with my sway, there is always that feeling of pain when I see my MANY girl mum friends play with their girls, or especially the mixed families with at least one of each, because that was my dream, to have at least one of each gender. I DID really want boys, I just didn't only want boys, you know?

Having said that, I do really believe you are given what you can cope with, and hey, maybe i'll just raise the best boys ever huh? Why give me a girl? lol. In all honesty, I would have no idea what one does with a girl. hahaha

But I sure would like to find out.

Well done to you staying team green. I do not have the resolve. I wish I did, and admire those who do!

ps we are due a week apart!

[meeks32]

I think AS recommends at least 6 weeks exercising before TTC as it can raise testosterone initially. If you can squeeze it in I would do it. I wanted to do it fir my sway but like Meeks my BMI was an issue and i did not want to ruin my chances of Conceiving. Looking at our results and last months it does look a bit like someone up there is rolling a dice. Perhaps people react to weightloss in different ways? It seems so weird that there were so many pink results this time and now only Tree. Sorry if i have missed any lucky pinkies.

Ladybugs i have everything crossed for you and your little one. Where are you based? I think in Europe you can legally ask for a pic or opportunity to take one. I know some places are weird about videos but a photo shouldn't annoy them too much? You could also pretend DH is a luddite completely incapable of taking a photo on his phone and sneak a quick vid.

AFM we have told the boys and they both seem excited. DS1 has said that he only wants a baby if it is a sister though. Quite logically he said that he already has one brother so why would he want another? Not sure if my answer about playing cricket with one and football with another convinced him! DH has to go away for a work trip but we are hoping it wont effect the date of our 20 week scan at the end of next week.

bahahah my ds1 said literally the exact same thing to me! "I only want a sister, I don't need a brother, I already have one of those" followed by a disgusted glance in his brothers direction. haha

I truly, truly believe our opposites in this particular group is to do with length of sway. Most of us were on our sways 12-18 months or longer, and Atomic is theorising that the body may actually get 'used' to living in a low nutrient condition, and take that to be the 'new normal' after X amount of time. The stats spreadsheet sort of shows that, for people on the diet 25+ weeks the odds drop. Also many that sway for a long time tend to drop tactics to try and get pg. We have all been there. You know, chuck in an extra attempt, or you were taking vitex, or cranberry or asprin and drop one etc. Who knows. Some of us get so sick of it we toss several things at once. Of course we almost all keep the diet and try to stick to abstain or fr, but nobody can blame the long-termers for questioning tactics and becoming desperate to just get pg.

Its understandable, but also unfortunate. I know people keep saying my sway was amazing, but things like not exercising, eating diet upper limits because I had lost too much weight and almost stopped ovulating, the fact I introduced 1 piece of toast for breakfast (even though I didn't snack and that was my third meal) all add up, even though they were tiny tweaks, month by month, inched into.

[Dreamofpink]

I agree Meeks. I know for a fact that my condition was improving when I conceived as it simply couldn't have got any worse! I had 2 months of not ovulating prior to my bfp month and 1 of those had been whilst on Clomid. I was just too underweight and had to gain 2lb, although I did it as unhealthily as possible. I was on the diet for 8 months and know that I still had the whole control-freak boy mum attitude of 'THIS HAS TO WORK!!'

I am going to work on acceptance of being a boy mum now, something I've been in denial about for years. Those who seemed to be at peace with ds4 (Thorz & Mrs P) had the right attitude I think. I know for me I was still in a state of desperation. Not that I am casting aspersions on anyone else, this is simply an observation of me! Now that 'the worst' has happened (Crikey, how stupid I feel for saying that, especially in light of your predicament Ladybugs) I know I will be over the moon to welcome this LO into the world. :)

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[2lovelyboys]

Hi ladies!

Ladybugs sorry 2 hear the worry your little man is causing you! Is you appointment tomorrow? Hoping they give you some good news! Ultimately at the end of this all we want is a healthy baby!

I have also been thinking about the number of opposites we are seeing! I was only on the diet for 14ish weeks, I did lose weight but am wondering if I lost enough, like you say it's hard to trick your body!
The majority of time I am content with this being DS3, can visualise myself itch my boys :) but do have my down times, this weekend for example when I found out my friend is having a DD in December, didn't realise it would hit me so hard! Boooooo!
I have always loved the idea of 4 children but am wondering if I could do this again but then I think if I don't try I don't get, very confusing!

Meeks, just thinking about our sways and the opposites we are seeing .... so we think that being on the diet to long could become your bodies acceptable norm?
Excessive cardio for those with more weight to lose is yielding good results? Any other thoughts, it's all very interesting!

[Charlee]

Unfortunately I think you are right about us long termers Meeks. Atomic actually said that exact thing... we were TTC for too long and it skewed the results. Now for people like you and I, there was nothing we could do about TTC for so long! We tried our hardest to get pg earlier when the sway was better but it just didn't happen for us. I have absolutely made peace with having another boy... I'm even excited about it! But there will ALWAYS be a lingering question in my mind about the "what ifs"... those damn doubts! It just might make me strive for #4... I am REALLY wanting to give a proper sway a chance to work! I feel like I wasn't even swaying the month I got pg because of many things.... like Meeks said, I don't know what I would even do with a girl, but i sure would like to find out :)

[2lovelyboys]

Charlee I've said the same thing, what would I do wiv a girl :). Like u I feel at peace wiv another boy (however a little girl would have been lovely), I am also thinking about getting on this crazy swaying train again for maybe no4!

I also don't think we would have been given anything we couldn't handle, these little boys were definitely meant to be, had to fight through all that sway to get here!

[Dreamofpink]

Unfortunately I think you are right about us long termers Meeks. Atomic actually said that exact thing... we were TTC for too long and it skewed the results. Now for people like you and I, there was nothing we could do about TTC for so long! We tried our hardest to get pg earlier when the sway was better but it just didn't happen for us. I have absolutely made peace with having another boy... I'm even excited about it! But there will ALWAYS be a lingering question in my mind about the "what ifs"... those damn doubts! It just might make me strive for #4... I am REALLY wanting to give a proper sway a chance to work! I feel like I wasn't even swaying the month I got pg because of many things.... like Meeks said, I don't know what I would even do with a girl, but i sure would like to find out :)

Charlee, I know you & Meeks gave it your best every month but for me it was a comedy of errors that I know were out of my control for the best part. The weight fell off me at a ridiculous rate even after upping my cals to the highest. Sept/Oct we did FR for our first two months & it didsn't work. November, I was advised strongly to skip as we'd had an awfully confrontational week with FIL, then Dec DH was just too exhausted after some manic shifts at work. After Christmas, I didn't then ovulate until March when I got my bfp :( Urgh.

I understand that it helps a lot of people to talk about why their sway may've failed and I wish more than anything that I had managed to convince DH to DTD in Dec. I don't want to make anyone feel bad at all, but the post-mortums are making me feel a bit more of a failure now. Kind of like kicking someone when they're down. Yes, I know I've added to them :) but for me I've come to terms with it now and know this little boy was meant to be regardless of what I did. Please don't all jump on me, I don't mean to offend but I need to step away for a little bit and focus on the positives of this little one. Without this forum I have to admit that it would've been far to easy for me to sink into a great pity party, but I know how lucky I am to have the support of you fab ladies who understand. :heart:

[myrainbowgirl]

Niva - Welcome back!

Re: failed sways - I really, really hope you ladies are not kicking yourselves for things you could have/should have done...although when I find out in a couple of weeks, I know it will be hard not to do that. I agree with Ladybugs that LUCK has a lot to do with it...and that is most certainly not something we can control, unfortunately. These sweet little boys are obviously meant to be...I definitely think of DS3 that way. (Didn't sway with him, but obviously was hoping for a girl.) He is beautiful, and I wouldn't trade him for the world! Assuming this one is DS4, I know it will be HARD, but at the same time, with my history (not getting pg for months and months, not swaying), the fact that I swayed girl and got pg right away at 36 years old helps me to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is meant to be. Hoping I can really focus on that! But big, BIG hugs to all of you!! And I know GD is hard, so those of you making peace...so happy for you, your little beans are worth it!

[GeCon]

Laybugs, good luck for your appointment tomorrow. Hope you get some reassuring news.

Meeks, enjoy your scan tomorrow. What time is it? Can't wait to have a look at your baby's nub, which will hopefully be very obviously girly.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Oh ladies ITA with rainbow, please don't feel you did anything wrong that caused your sway to fail. I have been overwhelmed with the dedication many of you have shown to your sways, I couldn't even hack the diet for one measly month.

I see tons of people irl who should be classic boy makers have girls. A lot of it must just come down to luck. Please don't feel you did anything to cause your sway to fail. Totally agree that these little people are meant to be.

[meeks32]

Laybugs, good luck for your appointment tomorrow. Hope you get some reassuring news.

Meeks, enjoy your scan tomorrow. What time is it? Can't wait to have a look at your baby's nub, which will hopefully be very obviously girly.

4hrs to go!!

[meeks32]

Oh ladies ITA with rainbow, please don't feel you did anything wrong that caused your sway to fail. I have been overwhelmed with the dedication many of you have shown to your sways, I couldn't even hack the diet for one measly month.

I see tons of people irl who should be classic boy makers have girls. A lot of it must just come down to luck. Please don't feel you did anything to cause your sway to fail. Totally agree that these little people are meant to be.

Dream and Charlie, what she said ^^^

I was just thinking about this today. You know who should have had boys and had tons of girls? That Kris Jenner (the kardashian mum)! She's a super control freak and boy mum looks, not that thin (although I assume she was dieting) yet still had 5 girls and 1 boy (to two different fathers). Kim I get, having a girl because she was on a diet and fitness kick, but her mum, no idea! I don't follow it that much but just one of those tabloid things I noticed and thought huh??

So for some people it's obviously a genetic predisposition to being more boy or girl friendly, and to a large extent, beyond control. You know, that control thing us boy mums love, haha.

Also dh's xx vs xy sperm count is always relevant. We could have the perfect sway and if dh has 90% boy sperm then it's still a pretty tough set of odds. Some women having HT have found this.

Nobody should feel their sway was inadequate because we are only HUMAN. We can only do what we can do, and we all did everything we could handle at the time.

That's probably enough talk about our sways and regrets for now. Hugs dream.

[meeks32]

Nub shot here, please guess:

http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32804

[myrainbowgirl]

Girly, Meeks! Woohoo!!!

[Mathilde]

Meeks: thats FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would totally and completely not believe my own eyes if I was you!!;) I'm so envious(in a good way;))
AFM, tried popping by my vet friend to have a quick scan yesterday, but a dog with acute kidney stones had to be operated, for once I didn't feel sorry for the poor animal, only myself.. LOL.. How low can I stoop?

[GeCon]

Meeks, replied on your other thread. Looks very girly to me. Exciting!

Mathilde, sorry the dog got in your way of seeing your baby.

[meeks32]

Meeks: thats FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would totally and completely not believe my own eyes if I was you!!;) I'm so envious(in a good way;))
AFM, tried popping by my vet friend to have a quick scan yesterday, but a dog with acute kidney stones had to be operated, for once I didn't feel sorry for the poor animal, only myself.. LOL.. How low can I stoop?

Thank you!

Ps I would totally stoop that low. That's not fair! But pretty funny too, I mean how could a dog be so inconsiderate to have kidney failure during your appointment??? Hehehe

[Mathilde]

I had my NT done privately today and all looked well, DH and I first saw a forked straight thing, and without saying we got out hopes up.. But another ten minutes into the scan we asked if she could tell the gender, and got the "its very early.." "but this bit sticking up looks like a boy", she took that picture and a video, but I do not believe I have footage of the forked stick we later in the car agreed we saw. I am heart broken and devastated. I feel so sorry for the poor little boy inside of me, so happily dancing about, and for his father who is affraid I will have GD for ever(which I most likely will.) Am going to turn this around some how, but it will never take the loss away. Had we both not got our hopes up about that perfectly formed forked thing.. It was identical to Meeks...
Glad the rain is pouring down outside, managed to make pankakes and soup for the boys, am lying down now. Had a true rant in the car..

[Mathilde]

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Inside the thigh on the bottom picture is the straight line we thought we saw earlier, the video we recieved is kicking up, will post it when I can..

[Charlee]

Mathilde - If I was to venture a guess, I would guess boy. BUT - that is by no means the end all of guesses. I am terrible at nubs, really I am. If it's any consolation, at 12 weeks my baby boy had a penis. Seriously. I was so shocked! Neither of my other two were that developed this early.... he really wanted me to know right then that he was here!

12 weeks is one of those in between ages, some are developed enough to tell, some are not. So don't lose all hope yet... there are countless examples of 12 week scans being iffy. I think you could still hear pink!

[Mathilde]

Charlee: You are wonderful for replying, I need it so , so, dearly right now. DH is keeping away as I´m in no state, trying my hardest to push him away, but needing him to bounce back as attached to me by an elastic band.. Told him that, but he is too hurt by my hurt right now.. So he is walking the dogs. Crying my eyes out in bed, like in the movies, cried underwater in my bathtub. Tomorrow I´ll put on my too well used mask and get on with life..
The little innocent one is textbook boy, i feel, and I feel so sorry for him coming to me.. poor little one.. why didn't he choose some of the lovely ladies in the swaying for a boy forums... Miracles can happen, but, he looks too much like my boys... wish I could magically put him back .. I´m sorry, and I know I will regret that, but you know.. Thank you again.
Mathilde

[GeCon]

Mathilde, I am sorry to hear of your disappointment, but it is still early. I do understand the way you are feeling though as although the doctors scanning me did not want to make any guesses, when I looked back at the video I believe that I have seen boy clues in it. *sigh* So I totally understand, but hope that you can come to terms with things, should this little one turn out to to be another boy for you.

Ladybug, are there any news from your appointment today? Really hope you got some answers and reassurance. :bighug:

[GeCon]

P.S.: Mathilde, I am not very good at spotting nubs, but for what it is worth, I don't really see anything either way in your pics other than a cute baby.

[I Love Ladybugs]

My appt is still 1.5 hours away.....patience is not one of my virtues today!!! I will be back afterwards to update for sure.

[Mathilde]

The very best of luck to you ladybug:)
Gecon: thank you.
Mathilde

[GeCon]

I might be in bed by the time you post your update, but will be catching up 1st thing in the morning, Ladybug.

[meeks32]

128831288412885
Inside the thigh on the bottom picture is the straight line we thought we saw earlier, the video we recieved is kicking up, will post it when I can..

Ok so what gestation?
Those first two pics, if they are nub, are quite boy. The last pic, if its nub is quite girl. I would love to see the video. I just don't think you got an accurate perspective if you saw two separate things. Babies develop at different rates perhaps yours is in that in-between phase where things are changing.

When is your next scan?

[meeks32]

My appt is still 1.5 hours away.....patience is not one of my virtues today!!! I will be back afterwards to update for sure.

How did it go? Are you ok? Big hugs. Waiting to hear.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I am in shock...and no, not over the kidney issue. I have been told from the Md today that the gender reported is a girl.....

I am still shaking...and feeling like the 18 weeks elective scan could not be wrong, but they must be at the 19 and 21 scan at the hospital one. She (if they are right about gender) has a bulging bladder, a 2mm and 6mm cyst in the right kidney which means it is a write-off, but the left kidney is working and the bladder is doing its job as there is a good level of amniotic fluid.

That is the update for now...in my head, I can't shake off that he could be a she, she could be a he. To be team green sorta???

[Waiting4Daisy]

Omg ladybugs that is so exciting! What does that mean? Why did they tell you boy?

Glad that babe's other kidney is functioning well. I don't really know about cysts but I pray they will resolve.

Mathilde, nothing on your pics screams boy to me and the last pic looks quite girly I think. Nothing is set at 12 weeks.

[GeCon]

Wow, Ladybug. That is some news. First of all I am glad to hear that baby seems to be okay and am hoping that the rest will resolve itself. As for the little bug actually being a girl... woohoo!

I understand that you are a bit unsure about what to think now. Will you be having another scan to confirm? Can you get a free re-scan at the place where they scanned you if you explain the situation? Do you want me to change your bean to yellow again for now?

[2lovelyboys]

Mathilde, 12 weeks is still very early alot can change, please remember we r here :hugs:

Meeks, I replied on the other thread, very girlie, yippee!

Ladybugs, wow what crazy news! I'm glad LO other kidney is functioning well! Sooooo he could be a she :) that's good news! How you feeling about it? How many weeks were u wen u had your gender scan? Did u definitely see boy bits? May just have been swollen girlie bits??? :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

I plan on nicely messaging the girl who did the elective scan and see what she thinks! Gecon...yellow would be a nice shade until we get 100% proof of gender....the funny thing is that 18 week scan took a long time to get "proof" and it is possible (I guess) that it could be swollen bits. I will take a pic and let you girls be the judge...he did not look like my DS2 who flashed us nicely at the 19 week scan back in 2009. I wanted a 2d pic of proof, all she could do was 3d. Now my hospital has done their anatomy scan at 19/21 weeks and is certain of gender. I am not at all!! :)

Sorry if I am all over the map....I am in shock in every way.

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - OMG!!!! That is crazy amazing! Did you actually see the goods at the 18 week elective scan?? Maybe you were looking at the cord? If you saw a scrotum, that's different...but if it was just a penis, I would definitely be thinking pink right now!!! How are you going to find out for sure? Glad baby's left kidney looks good...we only need one, thank goodness!

Mathilde - I honestly don't think those pics show much. I'm thinking the first two are actually a part of the baby's leg or cord? The bottom pic is definitely girly!! Please don't put stock in the boy opinion! You're not out yet!

Gecon - Your scan is Thursday, right? Or is that someone else?

AFM - Feeling pretty blah these days. Physically, still wiped out, and nausea still hits me every once in a while. Emotionally, it's worse. It's like I already have GD! I just want to be happy to be pregnant, and happy with the thought of 4 boys! Sigh. I need to just be grateful for the precious blessings that I have (which are many).

[Waiting4Daisy]

Ladybugs I am inclined to go with your hospital! They saw girl bits twice!!!! I'm always a bit wary of those elective places tbh. And if they took time to find boy bits I'd say it's very suspect.

Must be so frustrating not to know for sure. I hope you can get confirmation hun xxxx

[I Love Ladybugs]

I went to phone my mom to tell her of the kidney/bladder news (not telling gender stuff even) and she let me know that my brother has been rushed to the hospital an hour away for a CT scan. He fell onto his back/backside off his crane truck and is in urgent care. I have been bawling over that....I promise I will respond to all the messages soon....I have been praying my heart out for my brother.

[Waiting4Daisy]

How scary ladybugs. Praying for your brother and your precious baby both.

[meeks32]

I went to phone my mom to tell her of the kidney/bladder news (not telling gender stuff even) and she let me know that my brother has been rushed to the hospital an hour away for a CT scan. He fell onto his back/backside off his crane truck and is in urgent care. I have been bawling over that....I promise I will respond to all the messages soon....I have been praying my heart out for my brother.

Oh I am so sorry, this is huge news, I will be thinking of you and your brother and wishing him all the best.

What emotional turmoil. Please try to take a few deep breaths and tell yourself and baby it will be ok, don't think anything until that scan brings back some news. One bit at a time. He's at the hospital now and in good hands.

Big hugs.

I know its probably far from your mind right now but if you were told boy at 15-16 weeks through a 3d scan, and girl at 18 & 21 weeks on a 2d scan at the hospital, I would believe the later gestation, 2d, hospital scans.

[I Love Ladybugs]

We are heading out the door to friends for dinner...I feel blessed that she will be taking care of my boys hungry bellies. I am in no frame of mind to be making a decent dinner. Still waiting for the call from my mom about my brother.....my eyes are raw.

Waiting for Daisy....I need to message the other girl who did the 18 week scan tonight! I wonder what she will say......and do.

Myrainbowgirl....I have a pic in 3d that she claims is testicles and penis....let me post it later.

I want to believe the hospital scan so badly!! Just not the part about the kidney or bladder though :)

[Soar]

Ladybugs-wow what exciting news about the 18 weeks scan being wrong! Yippee!!! You are giving me hope that a third baby can be a girl after 2 boys Sorry to hear about the one kidney but glad she has another one that's ready to go!!!! Said a prayer for your brother. So sorry to hear about that news. Hoping everything is ok! Keep us posted!

XxNatxx-when will you be able to get more information or willyouneed to just wait until your next scan? I would also be like you and skip the amnio. No matter what this baby will bless you all beyond belief!

Meeks-I am sure you are so excited too!

[Soar]

Uh oh I posted in the wrong thread! All still applies thou!!! Headed to dec-jan-feb thread now! :-)

[Niva]

Meeks -- that looks totally girly to me!!! You must be over the moon!

Mathilde -- I agree that it is too early to be sure. Hopefully thinking about the possibility of it being a boy will help you come to terms with it in a way that is hard to do when the odds are completely unknown, but it certainly isn't the final word. Try to consider yourself still in yellow territory for now!

Ladybugs -- wow, what news! I hope your brother is okay. I'm very glad the second kidney looked good and functional. What did they say about a bulging bladder, does that mean anything? If the amniotic fluid levels were good, that means she IS passing urine, so maybe she was just full and about to pee when they did the scan? And she, yes, I'm inclined to listen to the 2d later-term more-experienced techs!! Experience has a LOT to do with it. When I went in at 6 weeks with pain on one side, the OB couldn't even find my left ovary with the ultrasound, and she tried for a good five uncomfortable minutes. So she called in a tech, who found it in about 3 seconds. (Funny thing, my pain was on the left but it was my right ovary that had ovulated and had the cyst on it... Oh well!) Anyway, I am wholeheartedly happy your baby got a miraculous gender-change, haha!

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - Wow, you have been through so much in the past 24 hrs!! Prayers for your brother. Please keep us posted on everything!

[I Love Ladybugs]

The time at my friend's house was dearly needed.....the concerns for my brother's life and health are of top concern to me, but it was nice that my baby was important to them to ask/talk about as well. No real update on my brother, but he was airlifted to Vancouver tonight and we will have more to go on in the am. Please keep him in your prayers and thoughts!!

I will be on in the morning to reply...my heart is heavy over my brother and I know that I will need sleep.

[Mathilde]

Ladybugs: one thing comes seldom alone. I hope your brother is going to get completely well, just a little shaken and bruised..

AFM, thank you for your kind words of encouragement. I believe we did see girl bits, but the boy bit pictures are text book examples for me, have put on my mask today, where it will stay, hoping my DH can turn me around somehow.. They bought me pink roses yesterday which I wanted to throw back at them.

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, hope your brother is okay. :hug2:

Have you heard back from the girl who did your earlier scan?

Mathilde, I think it is a good way to prepare yourself for the case that it may be another boy, but if you have seen girl bits, you still have a chance.

[GeCon]

AFM: One more day until our scan. I AM excited, but also more and more resigned to the fact that we will hear boy. Already had a bad night's sleep last night, which I think was due to the scan, hope I'll get some better sleep tonight.

[meeks32]

AFM: One more day until our scan. I AM excited, but also more and more resigned to the fact that we will hear boy. Already had a bad night's sleep last night, which I think was due to the scan, hope I'll get some better sleep tonight.

How exciting! Good luck!!

[Mathilde]

Gecon: i have a good feeling for your scan:) good luck!

[thehappypixi]

My goodness I've missed so much! Had friends over with their two boys this weeks, that was intense!

Bug, wow, up/down/sideways. I just want to give you a massive virtual hug and a shoulder if you need it, really thinking of you xxxxx

[I Love Ladybugs]

HappyPixi...I too have to catch-up on our thread!!

I am sorry about my me day yesterday, I got a little sleep last night and at least can process part of what yesterday was all about. My brother will be airlifted...my mom had thought they took him last night, but they are waiting for today to take him down there. If the affected vertebra would have been pushed in instead of being fractured out, he could have been paralyzed. I know that God is watching over my brother and our baby. My DS2 sings the song "He has the whole world in His hands" and it brings me to tears!

Mathilde...I don't know a thing really about nubs, but I am hoping that you get to hear pink!!!


I have spent the last 4 weeks in the understanding that this is my third son inside, and when I mentioned it to hubby that this is said to be his daughter....my DS1 came running and said "I told you it was a baby girl". We were not talking about it loudly at all, but that boy has amazing hearing when he needs too!!!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon....your scan is so, so close!! I am excited for you and hoping that you get the best images possible of her/him. I am still waiting for a response from the other scan image/girl and am curious myself what she thinks!!!

Mathilde....I am sorry about the pink roses and how it made you feel. My hubby tried to cheer me up after the gender u/s with a few comments that I just started blubbering on....he zipped the lip until I was able to better take his sense of humour or view on it. ((hugs)) and hoping you do hear pink soon!

Charlee and Dream...I never thought once that I would be out of our club....I had come to peace about my boy. I had even made the effort to imagine a life without ever having a daughter. I want you both to know how inspiring both of you are with your precious little boys and how you lifted me up in such a time of need.

Happypixi...that is what happens when you miss a Tuesday!! Of course, I am teasing. When I woke up yesterday, I couldn't have imagined how the day would turn out. What have you been up to otherwise????

Separate post for more personals :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Myrainbowgirl...We saw what looks like testicles and penis...but I am not really that familiar with 3d shots. Cord is to the side if I read it right, but I just got a message from her that she will do a 3d for free....and that would give my boys a chance to see their baby.

Meeks....Your nub shots look so girly.....just amazingly so and I hope that in a few weeks time you will hear that your little girl is on her way to you! The news with my brother really sent an element of reality to my day yesterday.

Soar...I like to think that these last 2 scans are true...and that they give you hope.

Waiting for Daisy....I am going to think along your way of thinking...2 times with the same tech at the hospital vs. one tech wannabe elsewhere! Even if it is just for a bit, I will allow myself to think pink.

Niva....It is a good thing about the amniotic fluid....they will be monitoring that as a way of knowing if she is passing urine (so that both left kidney and bladder are working just right). The issue with the bladder is repairable according to the MD I saw yesterday, but we will be sent to the Women's Hospital 500 miles away to know to what degree things are involved. I am so amazed how you are staying team green....I did it with DS1 and enjoyed it, but I have to say that being forced to a yellow stork has me going wild!!!

2lovely...I just can't wrap my head around this all. Four weeks of living in blue and a future of three sweet boys to be jolted to what I had "swayed' for....I will be a slight basketcase until we do have proof...and then a bigger basketcase waiting for the birth.

[Charlee]

Ladybug - Sending all my healing energy to your brother! I am so sorry you have to worry about all this right now, trust me I know... UGH.

About being out of the club... haha... well, if I could hitch a ride on the girl train I would do it too! Dream and I will be okay... we are tough women and we love our children to bits, no matter their gender. I love little boys.... I can't wait to have another one! Does it sting? You betcha.... but I'm used to that sting now... LOL

[2lovelyboys]

Ladybugs, wow wow wow what a crazy 24 hours! Any news on your brother, will be praying or him and your bubba! I have been reading up on scans, any scans before 20 weeks can be easily misinterpreted but the closer to 20 weeks you are th more accurate they are. 2d scans are also supposed to be more accurate for gender guesses than 3d. Did u hear boy from a 3d scan? Think I would be inclined to believe the hospitals 2d scan, soooooooooo happy and excited for you! As for the opposites club, think yourself lucky, think we would all prefer not to be in it! :)

GeCon, good luck for tomorrow! Exiting times! Will be thinking of you!

[Mathilde]

Well charlee, on the same day you lost a member and it seems like you gained one too. Glad you are there although I wish you weren't:)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Dream, Charlee and 2lovely.....I love you all to bits, even though I have not met you IRL, I know your hearts and I feel just amazingly blessed to have gotten the chance to "meet" you all. I think my train is a roller coaster though.....with a tiny seatbelt and lots of excitement along the way!

[I Love Ladybugs]

12929 This is at 18 weeks.....what would you all think if you were told this????

[meeks32]

Ladybugs it must be night for you now, so I am catching up on your day this morning. I hope your brother is ok as more news comes in, and that baby continues have have good fluid levels and no more issues. Thinking of you.

[meeks32]

12929 This is at 18 weeks.....what would you all think if you were told this????

Absolutely nothing. I would think nothing. 3D is ridiculously inaccurate. Do you have shots from the 2D scans? Did that gender place not do 2D at all?? Because in 3D when they show me baby, u can't even see the face that well. How would you see gender? Also that could totally be swollen girl bits.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybugs it must be night for you now, so I am catching up on your day this morning. I hope your brother is ok as more news comes in, and that baby continues have have good fluid levels and no more issues. Thinking of you. Daytime, but on the second longest day ever....lol, I am waiting for my mom to call if there has been change...I think that we will know more hopefully tomorrow at this time.
Thank-you so much for your support and concern!!!

[GeCon]

I agree with meeks, Ladybug. I said it before and will say it again. I know a lot of people prefer the 3d scans, but I always struggle to make things out clearly. I can see we are looking at between the legs, but that's about it. When will you be getting your free re-scan?

[I Love Ladybugs]

Meeks...it bothered me that night that she could not get much in 2d at 18 weeks, but since we have no/limited options for elective scans, I took what I could get. The insane thing is that I kept on thinking she is going to tell me girl, why can't she just say girl, isn't this the little girl....so when this is the only image from that night, I had to go with it.
It gives me hope that this is my girl.....and just enough doubt in my hubby's mind to not be sure at all.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I agree with meeks, Ladybug. I said it before and will say it again. I know a lot of people prefer the 3d scans, but I always struggle to make things out clearly. I can see we are looking at between the legs, but that's about it. When will you be getting your free re-scan?

She might do it this weekend...otherwise, it will be courtesy of the Canadian government....lol, as in ,the in depth scan in Vancouver. I struggle to "get" what image one sees with 3d, they seem to be nicest for facial shots.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Ladybugs I do not think that looks like boy bits even in 3d. On ig the experienced techs used to say you never use 3d for gender scanning as it is just not accurate at all.

I'm going with your hospital for just now!!! Can't wait to here x

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybugs I do not think that looks like boy bits even in 3d. On ig the experienced techs used to say you never use 3d for gender scanning as it is just not accurate at all.

I'm going with your hospital for just now!!! Can't wait to here x

I like the sounds of it...the deal is that it really put me in my place about my expectations. I have been living the last 4 weeks in the mindset of third and final boy and I have to say that this is getting my hopes up (in a good, but scary way!!). I look forward to knowing 100%!

[meeks32]

I like the sounds of it...the deal is that it really put me in my place about my expectations. I have been living the last 4 weeks in the mindset of third and final boy and I have to say that this is getting my hopes up (in a good, but scary way!!). I look forward to knowing 100%!

When you go back please MAKE her print you a potty shot in 2D, even if she doesn't think its clear. And maybe video the screen with your phone?

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - The 3D pic doesn't show much, IMO. I see a little protrusion, but I would think a penis would look bigger. And I don't really see testicles...really could be swollen girl parts! So your second 3D scan will be this weekend? Oooh, so exciting!! You're gonna hear girl, I just know it!

AFM - MaterniT21 bloodwork and NT scan on Friday...getting nervous!

[meeks32]

Agree, I would think a penis protrusion would be longer than the tiny bit in the middle. I think its a girl, the later scans and 2D are far more accurate.

[meeks32]

Good luck for Friday rainbow. Do you mean the results come Friday or you take the test Friday?

[myrainbowgirl]

Good luck for Friday rainbow. Do you mean the results come Friday or you take the test Friday?

No results...just the bloodwork drawn and NT scan. I think I will know between Aug. 20-23rd. Gonna be a long 2 weeks!

[Charlee]

Okay I just about lost it today... a "friend" - more like "frenemy" (we have this strange competition going on, I try not to play into it but she always gets the best of me (!) just found out she's having a girl after 2 boys.. she's due 2 weeks after me. She messaged me on FB to tell me personally... AAAAHHHHHH!!!! I almost drove to her house and punched her in her big fat face!!!! I am not this kind of person and GD is making me into a person I DO NOT LIKE... sorry to vent but this is the only place I have to do it....

How is your brother Ladybug?

[I Love Ladybugs]

I want the follow-up to be this weekend...not sure if it is going to be a sure thing though. Meeks, I will have her print out a 2d for sure!! I wish that I would have insisted on that already...she has not replied to the last email, so I will have to hope that she is good on her word of the free u/s (which would only be right!!).

Myrainbowgirl...you are only days away from founding out gender...and lol, the next 2 weeks are so long for all of us!! I never thought I would be in the position I am...I daydreamed about this, but did not give much merit to a Thorz scenario for me!

My hubby, who never gets excited about anything baby, is wildly thrilled by the whole turn of events! I guess time will tell!!

[meeks32]

No results...just the bloodwork drawn and NT scan. I think I will know between Aug. 20-23rd. Gonna be a long 2 weeks!

I know what you mean. I have my next scan on 27th and it seems like an eternity away.

[meeks32]

Okay I just about lost it today... a "friend" - more like "frenemy" (we have this strange competition going on, I try not to play into it but she always gets the best of me (!) just found out she's having a girl after 2 boys.. she's due 2 weeks after me. She messaged me on FB to tell me personally... AAAAHHHHHH!!!! I almost drove to her house and punched her in her big fat face!!!! I am not this kind of person and GD is making me into a person I DO NOT LIKE... sorry to vent but this is the only place I have to do it....

How is your brother Ladybug?

That's so annoying. I would have been mad too. In fact even with a girly nub that would make me mad right now. I am mad for you! I just had a 'friend' with a very similar competitive element text me this week saying she's pregnant too, and will 'beat' me because she's due 2 days before me. It pissed me off like its some sort of competition, she could have just said yay we are due together! I got so annoyed I texted her back saying congrats and since I'll be having a caserian at 38 weeks, I'll be having baby 2 weeks before her. COULDN'T HELP IT! Played right into the game then was annoyed at myself for engaging.

[2lovelyboys]

Meeks, hee hee I can imagine I would have been the same, sometimes you just can't help it! I also have my next scan on the 27th, counting down!

Myrainbowgirl, not long now, bet u r excited, nervous, apprehensive and all the other emotions that go with this roller coaster, will be keeping my infers crossed before u!

Ladybugs, how is your brother today? Any news? I can see why you thought boy from that scan, based on that alone I would have thought the same however, like I said before I've read up a lot on scan recently, any scan before 20 weeks scan be misinterpreted, 3d scans for gender aren't recommended as can be very misleading, 2d scan are more reliable and the closer to 20 weeks you are the more accurate they become! I also read it is quite common for girls to be mistaken for boys at early scans as they can still be very swollen, a 2d scan clearly showing both penis and scrotum is recommended for clear identification! It is die agley sounding very hopeful for you, I hope you hear girl, keeping my fingers crossed!

GeCon, not long now! What time s your scan? Hope you slept better last night! Countdown now into hours, I'm stalking ...............

[GeCon]

Morning everyone,

Had a better sleep last night, changed the sheets and bedding yesterday and feel quite well rested just now.

Our appointment isn't until late as we wanted my husband to be able to come. Appointment is at 6.15pm GMT+1, but I will see the MW first, followed by the doctor. So we might know in about 10 hours from now... :worry:

In other news our baby is 17 weeks along today and now the size of an onion.

[2lovelyboys]

Cor GeCon that still feels like AGES away! Will be clock watching!

[thehappypixi]

Hey all!
Fast moving pages at the moment!
Bug that scan really doesn't show a thing! I will try and find my 3D scan of my second son, have it somewhere...

I'm fighting exhaustion on a daily basis, need some energy! Off to my grans to do her cleaning this morning, then a 13 hr night shift tonight, woo hoo.. :(

[Emily]

That's so annoying. I would have been mad too. In fact even with a girly nub that would make me mad right now. I am mad for you! I just had a 'friend' with a very similar competitive element text me this week saying she's pregnant too, and will 'beat' me because she's due 2 days before me. It pissed me off like its some sort of competition, she could have just said yay we are due together! I got so annoyed I texted her back saying congrats and since I'll be having a caserian at 38 weeks, I'll be having baby 2 weeks before her. COULDN'T HELP IT! Played right into the game then was annoyed at myself for engaging.

LOL! Actually she might not see it as playing a mean game - some people think that sort of comment is funny. She probably thought you were hilarious! Try to avoid getting pulled into it if it makes you feel bad but I wouldnt worry about it - you matched her you didnt raise the bitchiness stakes. If you do need to raise them though you could mention that as you know exactly when you will give birth you will be able to have a manicure, pedicure and wax in readiness! LOL you could even fit in a bejazzle!

[Mathilde]

I completely symphasize with your sentiment charlee, I would so want to get back at her and would be busy plotting away;)
Ladybugs: you are going through the worst torment right now, I can not believe it! I would be all over the place;) and really whish I had your chance;)
Meeks: you have a daughter!
Rainbow: happy tww;) good luck!
Afm: had a discussion w DH yesterday, he finds my GD difficult, was talking about marriage consequences and that it isn't charming that I am not happy with what he can provide and so on, sad, and understandable. Whish I wasn't so.. Friends now, am working on appearing happy, will love ds3 when he arrives, but know I'm not the type to leave it and go on.. Hope time will change me:) going to do some retail therapy and buy cute baby stuff this weekend together.

[meeks32]

I completely symphasize with your sentiment charlee, I would so want to get back at her and would be busy plotting away;)
Ladybugs: you are going through the worst torment right now, I can not believe it! I would be all over the place;) and really whish I had your chance;)
Meeks: you have a daughter!
Rainbow: happy tww;) good luck!
Afm: had a discussion w DH yesterday, he finds my GD difficult, was talking about marriage consequences and that it isn't charming that I am not happy with what he can provide and so on, sad, and understandable. Whish I wasn't so.. Friends now, am working on appearing happy, will love ds3 when he arrives, but know I'm not the type to leave it and go on.. Hope time will change me:) going to do some retail therapy and buy cute baby stuff this weekend together.

Haha I just read the part to me and went "do I? ... Oh, maybe I do"... It hasn't sunk in yet and I can't trust it until I see distinct lack of man bits at the next 2 scans!

I'm sorry it got so serious with you and dh re your GD. Fake it til you make it I say. Do what you have to, to convince him you are embracing it and I promise one day you will wake up and realise that you actually have embraced it. I had a lot of GD with ds2 but after some shopping, organising and settling on a name I felt better. Then by the birth it didn't matter at all. I had to let it go and choose to enjoy what I had, not what I may never have (we thought we would only have 2). Someone told me once "you can't choose what happens to you in life, but you CAN choose how you react to it" and that my motto. Mind you I have to remind myself constantly, and wallowing is totally allowed for a while. But now dh needs it to end, maybe you can end it on the outside and the inside will follow. It's worked for me before.

Hugs

[I Love Ladybugs]

Haha I just read the part to me and went "do I? ... Oh, maybe I do"... It hasn't sunk in yet and I can't trust it until I see distinct lack of man bits at the next 2 scans!

I'm sorry it got so serious with you and dh re your GD. Fake it til you make it I say. Do what you have to, to convince him you are embracing it and I promise one day you will wake up and realise that you actually have embraced it. I had a lot of GD with ds2 but after some shopping, organising and settling on a name I felt better. Then by the birth it didn't matter at all. I had to let it go and choose to enjoy what I had, not what I may never have (we thought we would only have 2). Someone told me once "you can't choose what happens to you in life, but you CAN choose how you react to it" and that my motto. Mind you I have to remind myself constantly, and wallowing is totally allowed for a while. But now dh needs it to end, maybe you can end it on the outside and the inside will follow. It's worked for me before.

Hugs

Meeks and Mathilde...that is what I did when with DS2. It hit me so hard and even though DH promised a third try in a few years time, I felt that he was going to try to wank that rug from under me. I became a faker....just around those who tried to trigger my emotions and GD. The deal is...he is my sonshine, he literally is the boy I needed to heal me....and right now when I am in limboland, this baby and all the drama surrounding it is meant for us too.
(((hugs))))

[Mathilde]

You are wonderful(tears);) that's advice I actually might be able to follow!
Ladybugs:that's a fanny if ever I've dreamed of seeing one(that came out wrong! You know what I mean;))

[Charlee]

Well I told a mutual friend about the comment that woman made and she told me that she's just being catty because she found out her husband is having an affair!!!!! See, you never know what other people are dealing with! So she was trying to get her kicks in wherever she could... so she decided to torture me and stupidly let her get to me... Now, if I was really a b**ch I would use that info to my advantage, but instead I'm going to let it go and maybe tell my hubby to post me a sweet msg openly on FB or something HAHA... I am so passive/aggressive! LMAO

[Charlee]

GeCon - I can't wait to hear your news!

[Charlee]

Mathilde - I am of the opinion that men just cannot understand GD the same way that women can, except maybe when it comes to having a son. My DH actually had (has) worse GD than me and he is very possibly the only man in history to feel that way! For what it's worth, his GD made mine worse! So, use his feelings to your advantage in a way, feed off of his excitement. The advice Meeks gave you is excellent... we can choose how we feel about these things. Feelings are a choice. Now, is it an easy choice? NO WAY! But if he is having a hard time hearing your feelings about GD then come here and vent where there are plenty of us who know exactly what you mean :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Charlee...you are so going to have to have your hubby post on your page...just enough gush to be perfectly over! You are too funny about the passive/aggressive...isn't it sad though how mean she was being out of her own hurt. You rock though...and will have to let us know how and what your sweet hubby posted to his amazing wife!!!!!!!

Gecon....just got back from a little walk...and can't wait for your news!!!

[GeCon]

We're back from our scan and saw our beautiful little baby, who is measuring right on time.

The doctor was 99% sure and I think I am with her...

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/P1060253_zpsdb42f78f.jpg

[Waiting4Daisy]

GeCon I can't read later potty/leg shots at all. What do they think baby is?

Congrats on that sweet baby

[Waiting4Daisy]

Little girl GeCon?

[GeCon]

She thinks it's a :ttcboy:. :)

[Waiting4Daisy]

I suck with these pics. I thought boy and then I wasn't sure. I really have no idea with later scans. Congrats on your cute little baby boy :-). I'm sure he will be absolutely gorgeous.

[Mathilde]

Does :ttc boy: mean boy? I hope everything looks healthy and well, if boy how are you coping? Hugs mathilde

[Charlee]

Congrats GeCon! How are you feeling? You gave zero clues about how you are feeling emotionally about this LOL

[Charlee]

FWIW, that shot is super iffy to me... take Ladybug and her little "ladybug" as an example of that! LOL.... That shot could totally be a swollen labia/clitoris. Did you get any more pics?

I'm not saying you shouldn't be over the moon happy at a healthy boy, but I'm just saying that shot is ambiguous to me...

[GeCon]

I've been trying to keep my chin up in front of OH and LO, but after reading one of you lovely ladies PM's when taking LO to bed, I couldn't help but have a little cry.

I am happy about having another adorable little sunshine like LO, but the fact that I will never have a girl admittedly stings.

[Dreamofpink]

Really? I thought it was a classic hamburger shot? But then I'm not brill at the whole gender & scan thing. Did you see any other clues? How are you feeling?

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[Waiting4Daisy]

I think it looks a little small for boy bits and more hamburger than hot dog to me. But maybe you got another shot?

[Charlee]

I'm with Dream on this one! That doesn't look like a boy to me! I've seen enough boys to know what I'm looking for on this one LMAO

[Charlee]

I've been trying to keep my chin up in front of OH and LO, but after reading one of you lovely ladies PM's when taking LO to bed, I couldn't help but have a little cry.

I am happy about having another adorable little sunshine like LO, but the fact that I will never have a girl admittedly stings.

Ahhh I know what you mean hun... it's a rollercoaster for sure. Never say never though... unless you are having your tubes tied then nothing is set in stone... Come join our opposites thread and plan your "oops" baby with us LMAO

[GeCon]

I have a video, but haven't looked at it yet. Thanks for your kind words, ladies, but I think things are sticking out too much to be female.

Feeling a bit sorry for myself just now, which is crazy as I have been thinking it was a little boy for quite a while. But I guess there is always that little bit of hope... well not so much now.

[I Love Ladybugs]

FWIW, that shot is super iffy to me... take Ladybug and her little "ladybug" as an example of that! LOL.... That shot could totally be a swollen labia/clitoris. Did you get any more pics?

I'm not saying you shouldn't be over the moon happy at a healthy boy, but I'm just saying that shot is ambiguous to me...

We could be a double Thorz thread....that would be cool! Seriously, I looked at the scan it looks 3 lines all the way, but then I see the middle line is taller....and I wonder what other shots you could "still" out of the video. How is the baby looking health-wise?

[Charlee]

I think you should go with what your doctor said for sure, but I would love to see that video.... I can accept that maybe it's a penis but where is the scrotum? Know what I mean? It absolutely looks like swollen girl bits to me... just my 2 cents. I wouldn't be painting the nursery or buying much at all if I were you...

My baby had a penis at the NT scan... literally. LOL... By the 20 week scan there was NO mistaking that hot dog! If I had seen a pic like this of myself, I would be holding out a little hope to be honest. I hope that doesn't upset you, but this is my 4th boy and I have yet to see something that gives me hope. Post the video when you get a chance :)

CONGRATS AGAIN!!!!

[thehappypixi]

Eeeek just did something naughty!
I'm at work tonight and I had a sneak peek! Just a quickie, but I saw a person with a tiny heart beat and wiggling! <3 Im sooooo excited, I want to save this feeling so I don't care what flavour it is, tis my squishy!!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b99/thehappypixi/D913D5F7-A021-4E82-883E-4AC121AA1BBA-2967-0000021539034F47.jpg

[2lovelyboys]

Pick, lovely pic! I can understand why you took a quick peek, temptation is far to close, do you think you will be able to stay team green?

GeCon, replied on other thread :hugs:

[thehappypixi]

Ahhh that is the question! I don't know! I think I will officially, as I don't want to tell anyone either way, whether I find out myself in secret, well, that is so very very tempting :D

[2lovelyboys]

Pixi. In secret? You will be telling us though?! :) can't keep that to yourself :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pixi....I love your term squishy!! That is how I felt for the longest while to the arrival of this baby. I long to snuggle and be in that state with my sweet baby, regardless of gender.

Gecon...another hug and congrats!!! Either way, your sweet sonshine is going to be blessed with a sibling!!!

[Charlee]

Pixi - If you're already sneeking peeks of LO, you KNOW you're going to sneak a gender peek! haha... You better tell us if you do! :)

[bunnywabbit]

I just drop off for a couple of days and the thread goes insane! Where to start?!

Hi Niva! Long time, no see! Hoping all is well with you. MiL leaves next Thursday so she'll be around until the 2ww. For now, exercise isn't an option for me - because I have rheumatoid arthritis causing a lot of problems with my knees and back in particular I find it very difficult to keep regular with exercise, but 6 days a week would probably finish me off!

Iloveladybugs, wow... What can I say?! I really hope LO behaves and stops teasing mother (and all of us!) Really hoping for a girl for you. Had a look at the scan and was unsure what to make of it - the nose and mouth was clear, but apart from that drew a blank. No testicles that I could see, so I think you're still in with a good chance. It must be so frustrating for you. Are you going to try again to find out, or stick with team green for the sake of sanity? Either way, I'm so very thankful bubba is healthy (and you, of course!)

So shocked about your brother, so sad. How is he? How are you all keeping? You and your family are in my thoughts. :hug2:

Sunflower, I'm truly sorry you had a chemical. I really hope there's a sticky pink bean for you on your next cycle. Hang in there x

Mathilde, I'm so sorry you didn't hear girl. Is still pretty early, so still hoping this is your pink bundle still...

Gecon, I'm sorry you didn't hear girl either. Hoping you and your special little one are well. x

Happypixi, your tiny one is so cute! So exciting - don't blame for for wanting to sneak a peak!

Hoping everyone else is doing well! xx

[bunnywabbit]

AFM, got a surprise +OPK today at CD9 (I think...) - very early for me. Hoping I can talk DH round...

I'm actually starting to wonder if the seasons do make a difference to the amount of girls/boys conceived despite our best efforts. Maybe to do with the way seasons effect us emotionally, if it alters us hormonally (or similar!), foods in season or maybe even down to what's used on crops during times of year. :think: Ah, the random stuff that goes through my head...

[I Love Ladybugs]

Bunnywabbit...so glad your MIL is almost ready to leave!!! And I say that in the nicest way possible!!!! We still have not heard the latest about my brother today, I have to pray that he is stable, that he in on the road to a miracle.

I am just waiting for my call to Vancouver for a closer inspection of the kidneys and bladder. It is only a matter of time...and some patience, of which I have more time as it is a week off, than patience :)

[Sunflower3]

Congrats GeCon!!! But I agree with Charlee about it looking a bit like swollen girl bits. How far along are you? Was the dr 100% certain?

Ladybugs - what a roller coaster for you! Wow! I really hope you get another scan and put the gender guessing to rest! How us your brother? Keeping him and you in prayer.

Pixi - I'd be sneaking a peak every chance I got! What a cutie!!!!

Bunny - I'm cd 8 today!!!! Fx for us Hun!

Been a bit quiet as my chemical has got me thinking back to my twin miscarriage in December. I really hope this it my month! It's getting harder and harder every cycle especially after my losses. I just want to be pregnant already!!!!

[GeCon]

Thanks for all your comments. Sun, she was 99% sure, so really not much room for error. *sigh*

I am not sure who asked, I am sorry I am a bit all over the place at the moment, but yes, the baby seems healthy, which of course is the most important thing. I have already fallen in love with the baby regardless of the gender, it is just letting go of that dream of ever having a little daughter that is the difficult part.

Pixi, yay for sneakily seeing your little bean. Sorry for the lack of personals to everyone I haven't mentioned.

[meeks32]

Gecon, congrats on a healthy baby, for what its worth when I saw that pic I thought it was a girl. My boys both had literally a penis and balls on that scan, that looks more like flaps and a clitoris to me. Can we see the vid?

[meeks32]

I'm on my way to work, sorry I can't write more!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Omg pixi what a thrill! GeCon maybe it's just an ambiguous shot, the video might show something more conclusive either way.

Congrats on your gorgeous baby. Having two boys was awesomely sweet and there is something so special about brothers.

[myrainbowgirl]

Charlee - Ugh. That totally sucks! Yes, sounds like she just needed to cheer herself up - what a cruel way to do it!

Ladybugs - Aww, so cool that hubs is so excited! I think my DH is scared to have a girl! Any updates from U/S tech? How's your brother?

Meeks - What kind of scan on the 27th? Is it your anatomy scan? Do they tell you gender in Australia? I still can't believe they won't tell in certain places. Seems so crazy to me! And lol on you still "beating" out your friend! It's true, right?? :)

Pixi - Super cute bean! Oh man, it would take so much will power to not find out if I had access to a machine! :)

Emily - I can't remember - do you have a scan coming up??

Mathilde - I think my DH might land more in your DH's camp. I think he's scared to have a girl. Claims he wants one for me and would be happy. But for his own self, another boy would be great! He has said, "Well, having a girl would certainly be different!" Umm, yeah, dude, you're not exactly jumping up and down at the prospect, huh? Although to his credit, when I ranted to him after my 8-wk scan/Ramzi theory, he was pretty understanding. We'll see how he feels when we find out for sure!

GeCon - Congrats on baby! I thought boy when I first saw it, but it was not obvious! I have 3 boys, and mine were definitely more clear...penis, scrotum, the whole nine yards...so I agree that this is iffy. Would love to see your video!

Bunnywabbit - Woohoo for +OPK! Start BDing! :)

Sunflower - Best of luck and pink dust for this month!!

AFM - Scan and bloodwork in the morning...spent some time last night looking at nub shots, and while I don't think I will ask the tech's opinion, will be looking for gender clues myself. I know that nub shots this early are NOT reliable, but if I see a boy nub, I think I'll think boy, and if I see a girly nub, I think I'll think 50/50 chance still. Argh!!

[GeCon]

Still trying to sort out the video, but am very tired just now and laptop is messing me about a bit, so will finish it in the morning.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Rainbow totes excited for you! Fx for a girly nub! I'd feel the same, I won't be able to resist looking for nub but dread seeing a boy (ds3 had a classic stacked boy nub that coincidentally ended up in a pic I got). Even if I had a girl nub I wouldn't be convinced. Sure be nice to see one like Meeks' tho

[meeks32]

Charlee - Ugh. That totally sucks! Yes, sounds like she just needed to cheer herself up - what a cruel way to do it!

Ladybugs - Aww, so cool that hubs is so excited! I think my DH is scared to have a girl! Any updates from U/S tech? How's your brother?

Meeks - What kind of scan on the 27th? Is it your anatomy scan? Do they tell you gender in Australia? I still can't believe they won't tell in certain places. Seems so crazy to me! And lol on you still "beating" out your friend! It's true, right?? :)

Pixi - Super cute bean! Oh man, it would take so much will power to not find out if I had access to a machine! :)

Emily - I can't remember - do you have a scan coming up??

Mathilde - I think my DH might land more in your DH's camp. I think he's scared to have a girl. Claims he wants one for me and would be happy. But for his own self, another boy would be great! He has said, "Well, having a girl would certainly be different!" Umm, yeah, dude, you're not exactly jumping up and down at the prospect, huh? Although to his credit, when I ranted to him after my 8-wk scan/Ramzi theory, he was pretty understanding. We'll see how he feels when we find out for sure!

GeCon - Congrats on baby! I thought boy when I first saw it, but it was not obvious! I have 3 boys, and mine were definitely more clear...penis, scrotum, the whole nine yards...so I agree that this is iffy. Would love to see your video!

Bunnywabbit - Woohoo for +OPK! Start BDing! :)

Sunflower - Best of luck and pink dust for this month!!

AFM - Scan and bloodwork in the morning...spent some time last night looking at nub shots, and while I don't think I will ask the tech's opinion, will be looking for gender clues myself. I know that nub shots this early are NOT reliable, but if I see a boy nub, I think I'll think boy, and if I see a girly nub, I think I'll think 50/50 chance still. Argh!!

My scan will just be on my obstetricians personal machine since its my next monthly checkup with him. He will tell me if I want, but he said boy via potty shot at 11 weeks then the nub at 12w proper scan had everyone guessing girl so now I don't know if I want to ask him!!!

They do tell you in Australia but a lot of places won't do it before 20 weeks. I plan to book my anatomy scan for 20 weeks so its accurate.

[Charlee]

Just a random thought: I think it's so interesting that they guarantee gender at private scan places at 14 weeks here in California, yet in other places they won't even consider it till 16-20.... I wonder why?? They have a money back guarantee too, so it's not like they're just guessing really well here.... they would be out of business that way!

[myrainbowgirl]

Just a random thought: I think it's so interesting that they guarantee gender at private scan places at 14 weeks here in California, yet in other places they won't even consider it till 16-20.... I wonder why?? They have a money back guarantee too, so it's not like they're just guessing really well here.... they would be out of business that way!

Yes, I have wondered the same thing (I'm in the US, too)! I have never done elective scans, but had early ultrasounds with DS1 & DS2 due to my funny-shaped (arcuate) uterus...doc needed to check cervix length. So at 16 weeks, I asked to look at gender, and it was very obvious they were boys!! My SIL got an elective scan at 15 weeks with her DD, and they were correct! So it confuses me as to why so many places/doc's offices (in other parts of the world) refuse to "guess" before 20 weeks...when they don't need to guess, they can just look and more than likely see the goods by 14-15 weeks. I don't know if it's a legal or liability thing, or what!

[Emily]

My scan will just be on my obstetricians personal machine since its my next monthly checkup with him. He will tell me if I want, but he said boy via potty shot at 11 weeks then the nub at 12w proper scan had everyone guessing girl so now I don't know if I want to ask him!!!

They do tell you in Australia but a lot of places won't do it before 20 weeks. I plan to book my anatomy scan for 20 weeks so its accurate.

Meeks that is exactly how I feel. All these early tests - pg tests, scans etc getbus excited but also cause a lot of anguish! I didnt want a guess from the tech at 12 weeks so I have tried to ignore it and just go with the 20 week scan.

My rainbowgirl i am meant to be having my scan next week but the insurance company are now saying that the country I live in is not a suitable confinement post and suggesting I fly back to the Uk for scans and the birth. Hmm makes me slightly less confident in the resources here. Will check out the hospital and decide for myself. I really do not want to be away from DS1 for so long.

[meeks32]

Meeks that is exactly how I feel. All these early tests - pg tests, scans etc getbus excited but also cause a lot of anguish! I didnt want a guess from the tech at 12 weeks so I have tried to ignore it and just go with the 20 week scan.

My rainbowgirl i am meant to be having my scan next week but the insurance company are now saying that the country I live in is not a suitable confinement post and suggesting I fly back to the Uk for scans and the birth. Hmm makes me slightly less confident in the resources here. Will check out the hospital and decide for myself. I really do not want to be away from DS1 for so long.

What an expense!! Are they also volunteering to pay for your flights back and accommodation?? Surely there is an international hospital in Vietnam, I have friends in Bali that gave birth at one of those.

[Emily]

What an expense!! Are they also volunteering to pay for your flights back and accommodation?? Surely there is an international hospital in Vietnam, I have friends in Bali that gave birth at one of those.

Crazy huh? They don't pay for accommodation but do pay fir the flights fir myself and DS2. There are two International hospitals here so I will go along and check them out. I dont think that they are great but i am not bothered about birthing pools etc if it means i can stay with my boys.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily....I would be inclined for the International hospital myself, if it meant that the family stayed together. That would be a tough call...but I can't imagine the machines at those hospitals being 10-20 years old, so the diagnostics should still be good if you get a MD or radiologist who is experienced!

Rainbow, Meeks and Charlee....I think that the early u/s here probably are limited due to our geographic area, and that elsewhere in the province, we would have better options and service. This then translates into earlier scans that are accurate being offered! I wonder what would have happened if we would have had this scan after the 19 weeks hospital one, but before they had disclosed the bladder and kidney issues. There is a second elective place that exist too...but after my experience with the one, I am waiting for either a freebie from her or the better diagnostics from the hospitals.

Myrainbowgirl....you have your exciting day all lined up...hope it all goes smoothly and we have a nub to speculate on!!!!

Bunnywabbit....so you got a go in yesterday?!?! Fingers crossed that the SME and you have your BFP in a few weeks time!! Have you been able to get some downtime from your MIL?

Gecon...how are you feeling today? Is your little onion moving lots for you?????

AFM....this baby was so quiet yesterday, but is making up for it this am. My DS2 has got to feel this baby kick several times, no one else has :)

AND.....my brother finally was taken by airlift yesterday evening and my SIL posted in the middle of the night (insomnia for me) that my brother would not need surgery/receive surgery, but they would be seeing the specialist in the morning for more insight.

[GeCon]

Evening ladies,

Sorry I couldn't get the video up any earlier, but I have had problems with uploading it and then I've been busy all day.

Anyway, here it is:
Scan080813_zpsc91f5c07.mp4 Video by roddypiper_photos | Photobucket (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/roddypiper_photos/media/2nd%20Pregnancy/Scan080813_zpsc91f5c07.mp4.html)

I am trying to get my head around this being a little boy, but would love to hear your honest opinions. Please if you think it looks more boy just say so. I won't be offended.

So this is exactly what the doctor saw... okay in a bit better quality as I had to compress it to upload it and minus the camera shake and little hands. ;)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Latest and greatest on my brother!!!

1) Airlifted yesterday
2) No surgery needed for now...possibly none at all
3) Able to sit up!! :)

He still is going to have a rough time, the IV fluids are going in, but nothing is coming out. We are waiting to hear more...and praying for a miracle!

Gecon...I was trying to lay down and get rid of my headache, but nothing has worked. Going to check your video out!!!

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, great news on your brother. Fingers crossed the good news will keep coming. Any news on your re-scan this weekend?

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybugs, great news on your brother. Fingers crossed the good news will keep coming. Any news on your re-scan this weekend?

I think I am making her doubt her scan skills as she will only do a freebie 3d look at baby at 25 weeks...oh well, better than nothing. I should know sooner about gender and health by the provincial women's hospital before then :)

I looked at your video and there is a part of me that wants to hold out hope for you! Let me get rid of this headache and get back to you later in better detail. :pregnant:

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - OMG, that is crazy to have to fly back to the UK! How long would you have to be gone? You will know so soon! You're totally going to hear pink!!

Ladybugs - So happy to hear about your brother...what amazing news!! Hope you hear back from your elective scan place soon!

GeCon - Trying to watch your video now, but my computer is being super slow. Will give it an honest look!

AFM - The good news is that baby looks great!! NT super thin, nasal bone is present. They did find a small subchorionic hemorrhage, surprised it hasn't caused any bleeding! Doc wasn't concerned, thought it would probably resolve in the next few weeks. Okay, now for the bad news...totally a boy nub. Ugh. I am doing ok at the moment, but not sure how I'm gonna feel when I find out for sure in 10-14 days. Trying to keep my chin up! Will post a pic below.

[meeks32]

Gecon that video wont play on my ipad and i'm about to go out all day, I will try and get time on the real computer later for a look, unless you have it on youtube or something too?

[bunnywabbit]

Latest and greatest on my brother!!!

1) Airlifted yesterday
2) No surgery needed for now...possibly none at all
3) Able to sit up!! :)

He still is going to have a rough time, the IV fluids are going in, but nothing is coming out. We are waiting to hear more...and praying for a miracle!

Gecon...I was trying to lay down and get rid of my headache, but nothing has worked. Going to check your video out!!!

That's fantastic news! Fingers crossed he won't need the surgery at all. The fact he's able to sit is a great sign! x

[bunnywabbit]

Emily - OMG, that is crazy to have to fly back to the UK! How long would you have to be gone? You will know so soon! You're totally going to hear pink!!

Ladybugs - So happy to hear about your brother...what amazing news!! Hope you hear back from your elective scan place soon!

GeCon - Trying to watch your video now, but my computer is being super slow. Will give it an honest look!

AFM - The good news is that baby looks great!! NT super thin, nasal bone is present. They did find a small subchorionic hemorrhage, surprised it hasn't caused any bleeding! Doc wasn't concerned, thought it would probably resolve in the next few weeks. Okay, now for the bad news...totally a boy nub. Ugh. I am doing ok at the moment, but not sure how I'm gonna feel when I find out for sure in 10-14 days. Trying to keep my chin up! Will post a pic below.

I'm sorry you don't think you're getting your little pink bundle. You're 11+ weeks, right? At that stage there is a huge margin of error. I think there's still space for change. Fingers crossed for you... x

[bunnywabbit]

Bunnywabbit....so you got a go in yesterday?!?! Fingers crossed that the SME and you have your BFP in a few weeks time!! Have you been able to get some downtime from your MIL?



Yeah, got a go in yesterday... :p So the wait begins!

As far as the MiL, I think after the last discussion we had she's been a little more sensitive to my feelings and has improved. We went out for a meal tonight - me, DH and MiL and was actually very pleasant. Was Chinese and ate a little more than I should have, but stuck to water, veggies and noodles. Hopefully it didn't count against me too much!

[GeCon]

Meeks, it is only on Photobucket, I'm afraid. I am currently on the ipad too and just clicked play after it took me to the page. I am going to bed now anyway, so I am looking forward to your reply in the morning.

Ladybugs, looking forward to your response too.

Myrainbowgirl, sorry about the boy looking nub, but at 11 weeks the nub theory is not that reliable anyway, so try not to dwell on it.

Everyone else :wave:

[myrainbowgirl]

Ugh. Phone not cooperating. Will try to post pic a little later!

[GeCon]

Bunnywabbit, do not worry. I am sure your Chinese won't count against you. Fingers crossed this is your month. Did you just do the one attempt?

[bunnywabbit]

Thanks Gecon. Yeah, just the one attempt. This is a very early o this cycle (normally CD13 but was CD9 this time), so *maybe* I might get another chance later on too!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Good news on the brother front......he walked just a little, but was in pain. His bladder is doing something wrong....and we have not heard what the deal is still.

I am headed down to Vancouver for a Tuesday am appt....we have figured out how to use the cost saving options through our medical system, so I get a little vacation out of it. Lol, I have to look at the positive side of it :) The list of appts spans just 6 hours, but is going to be a busy, tiring day! There is not alot of options to get down there without me driving in a large city, in the heat....no way, I am so blessed by how all the little things are working together!!!

[Emily]

Emily - OMG, that is crazy to have to fly back to the UK! How long would you have to be gone? You will know so soon! You're totally going to hear pink!!

Ladybugs - So happy to hear about your brother...what amazing news!! Hope you hear back from your elective scan place soon!

GeCon - Trying to watch your video now, but my computer is being super slow. Will give it an honest look!

AFM - The good news is that baby looks great!! NT super thin, nasal bone is present. They did find a small subchorionic hemorrhage, surprised it hasn't caused any bleeding! Doc wasn't concerned, thought it would probably resolve in the next few weeks. Okay, now for the bad news...totally a boy nub. Ugh. I am doing ok at the moment, but not sure how I'm gonna feel when I find out for sure in 10-14 days. Trying to keep my chin up! Will post a pic below.

I would be gone for at least 12 weeks. It is so long. I was all gung ho about giving birth here - i am not fussy when giving birth but now am a bit concerned. DS1 was also born in a 'non-confinement' country and had serious issues from a botched delivery. He is still affected cosmetically so I know that it is the baby I have to think of too - it isnt just a question of not caring about water births, ball and gas and air.

[myrainbowgirl]

Bunnywabbit - FX for you this month!!

Ladybugs - Enjoy Vancouver...hope your appointments go well!

GeCon - How are you feeling?

Emily - Ugh, not a fun decision to make. I might tend to lean toward flying back as well, especially if I had concerns about medical facilities & had issues in the past! But yes, you would be gone so long...no fun! Sorry if this question is too personal...where are you originally from and why are you and your family having to go to all these different countries? Just wondering...you sound like a very experienced world traveler!

AFM - I have tried multiple times to post my nub shot on this thread, and I just cannot get it to work. I was able to post it on the Dec/Jan/Feb 2014 thread, so go on over and have a look if you're curious. Definitely leaning blue, but trying to not feel hopeless till the verdict is in. At this point I am seriously praying for a miracle!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily....that would make the decision so much harder. Lots of hugs to you in making the choice....what country again where you in with DS1 birth? What options did you have there vs. Vietnam? Is there any chance your family could help financially in bringing DS1 back with you?

Myrainbowgirl...I posted over there...and I wish you a pink one...those nubs throw me off when they are curled.

My trip is booked, my bags are packed...and baby is kicking right now. Mommy needs to go to bed...be back in the am.

[Mathilde]

Bugs: great news on brother! All the praying from a surtain secret community of crazed women must have helped;)
Emily: what a choice!
Rainbow: too many of us know how you are feeling.. Hope you cope as gracefully as the others(that's excluding me!!)
AFM: told the boys yesterday and they were very excited, my heart is still not in it though:( went to dr to have blood drawn, wheighed 66.8kg!! Am 1.74m.. Urine ok, hospital booked and BP very low(it is usually as well) at 83/48!!
Going shopping today for cute baby winter woolen stuff.. Hope that helps.. Have begun thinking of no 4 now.. Possibly ht? Have a nice day/night!
Mathilde

[meeks32]

I would be gone for at least 12 weeks. It is so long. I was all gung ho about giving birth here - i am not fussy when giving birth but now am a bit concerned. DS1 was also born in a 'non-confinement' country and had serious issues from a botched delivery. He is still affected cosmetically so I know that it is the baby I have to think of too - it isnt just a question of not caring about water births, ball and gas and air.

My friend that gave birth in the international hospital in Bali said her doctors were better than the ones she had at home in Australia with her other child. So do look into it before making the call. The facilities at that hospital were amazing and she was more than happy with the outcome despite a long labour and few stitches. She had gas and air but they didn't do water births there. She said she was offered an epidural but didn't want one.

12 weeks is a very long time.

[meeks32]

Emily....that would make the decision so much harder. Lots of hugs to you in making the choice....what country again where you in with DS1 birth? What options did you have there vs. Vietnam? Is there any chance your family could help financially in bringing DS1 back with you?

Myrainbowgirl...I posted over there...and I wish you a pink one...those nubs throw me off when they are curled.

My trip is booked, my bags are packed...and baby is kicking right now. Mommy needs to go to bed...be back in the am.

Good luck hon! Can't wait to hear. Please go shopping after all the appointments are over and you know gender for sure. Just as a little perk up and excitement for baby after all this drama.

So so glad your brother has walked! With all the swelling I'm sure that it is normal to have pain, but its a great sign. They can insert a catheter if his bladder isn't emptying and most bladder surgery is fairly simple if he needs that.

[meeks32]

Evening ladies,

Sorry I couldn't get the video up any earlier, but I have had problems with uploading it and then I've been busy all day.

Anyway, here it is:
Scan080813_zpsc91f5c07.mp4 Video by roddypiper_photos | Photobucket (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/roddypiper_photos/media/2nd%20Pregnancy/Scan080813_zpsc91f5c07.mp4.html)

I am trying to get my head around this being a little boy, but would love to hear your honest opinions. Please if you think it looks more boy just say so. I won't be offended.

So this is exactly what the doctor saw... okay in a bit better quality as I had to compress it to upload it and minus the camera shake and little hands. ;)

Gecon I think this is a boy. At just before 3min30 in the vid, bubs is sort of sideways on an angle and I definitely saw penis and balls. Then she freezes it on an odd shot, but before that you can see them. Also after when she goes for the potty shot, you can see it again before she freezes on another odd shot.

I hope that helps, it must be a bit of a shock to hear boy so far along, I'm sure you will love him like crazy and he will be an amazing addition to your family. Feel free to vent or celebrate, however you wish, we are here to share. X

[GeCon]

Meeks, thanks for taking the time to reply. I think I can see what you mean. Oh well two boys it is for us then. I am sure he will be a wonderful little addition to our family.

[Emily]

Meeks, thanks for taking the time to reply. I think I can see what you mean. Oh well two boys it is for us then. I am sure he will be a wonderful little addition to our family.

GeCon for some reason i thought you already had two boys. Well, if this does turn out to be boy #2 for you i can honestly say from experience that you will not regret it for second. The relationship two same sex siblings have is amazing. My boys love each ither so much (even when ripping each ithers heads off) and can relate to each other in a way that neither Dh nor I can. DS2 added something amazing to my family. I will look at your vid when I get home.

Thanks for your advice ladies. We move every 4 or so years due to DHs job (and mine before DS1).

DS1 was born in morocco in an amazing private hospital. Unfortunately docs get paid per birth so the ob hurried things along so that she would get the cash notthe next shift. She performed an unnecessary ventouse too early in teh delivery resulting in ripped neck muscles and other complications. These were not picked up by the paediatrician despite my frequent nagging as he was her best friend and did not want to implicate her.

I am going to chat to a lady who gave birth here to see what she thought of the whole process. As we would only have to pay for DS1s flight it would not be a problem for him to come back but he would miss a lot of his new school and DH wouldnt be able to be there fir the birth unless we had the baby induced to ensure the date. I would really prefer to have him / her here.

[meeks32]

Meeks, thanks for taking the time to reply. I think I can see what you mean. Oh well two boys it is for us then. I am sure he will be a wonderful little addition to our family.

I agree with em, my ds2 is just the light of my life and balanced our family out so much. I had some GD with him after our 20week scan but now I am so so glad he was a boy and arrived when and how he did. I can't illustrate enough just how nice it is having two boys play together. Xx

[meeks32]

GeCon for some reason i thought you already had two boys. Well, if this does turn out to be boy #2 for you i can honestly say from experience that you will not regret it for second. The relationship two same sex siblings have is amazing. My boys love each ither so much (even when ripping each ithers heads off) and can relate to each other in a way that neither Dh nor I can. DS2 added something amazing to my family. I will look at your vid when I get home.

Thanks for your advice ladies. We move every 4 or so years due to DHs job (and mine before DS1).

DS1 was born in morocco in an amazing private hospital. Unfortunately docs get paid per birth so the ob hurried things along so that she would get the cash notthe next shift. She performed an unnecessary ventouse too early in teh delivery resulting in ripped neck muscles and other complications. These were not picked up by the paediatrician despite my frequent nagging as he was her best friend and did not want to implicate her.

I am going to chat to a lady who gave birth here to see what she thought of the whole process. As we would only have to pay for DS1s flight it would not be a problem for him to come back but he would miss a lot of his new school and DH wouldnt be able to be there fir the birth unless we had the baby induced to ensure the date. I would really prefer to have him / her here.

I agree I can't imagine dh not being there. Obviously your choice will be what is best for the family and only you can decide that. See if you can chat to more than one mum who has given birth there, you never know, just one opinion could limit the view. Great plan though. Also maybe find out how the ob's get paid and see if you can speak to one armed with a list of just such questions. Also make sure to tell the ob all your concerns about your first birth to give him or her the opportunity to say how they would do things differently.

My first birth was botched majorly even in a western hospital, so it sure can happen anywhere.

[Emily]

I agree I can't imagine dh not being there. Obviously your choice will be what is best for the family and only you can decide that. See if you can chat to more than one mum who has given birth there, you never know, just one opinion could limit the view. Great plan though. Also maybe find out how the ob's get paid and see if you can speak to one armed with a list of just such questions. Also make sure to tell the ob all your concerns about your first birth to give him or her the opportunity to say how they would do things differently.

My first birth was botched majorly even in a western hospital, so it sure can happen anywhere.

Exactly! Knowing my luck if we flew back DH would miss the birth and I would end up giving birth on the overstretched NHS and end up with another botch job!

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon I'm thinking boy. Like the ladies have said two boys are fabulous! My boys play sooooo well together, can't imagine family life without him!

Emily I agree with Meeks, get a few opinions, don't just rely on one persons! Would induction be a possibility?

[GeCon]

Thanks for all your encouragement, ladies. Emily, the reason why we swayed with this baby is that for us there will only be two children.

I had a good chat with OH earlier (and a little cry) as I wanted him to understand that I am not sad because this little one is a boy, but because we will never have a daughter. He completely understands my situation. But we also agreed that from DS1's point a brother would be great as they will have so much fun and such a strong bond. I am also a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and OH reminded me of that earlier.

[myrainbowgirl]

Okay, ladies, totally desperate and grasping at straws. I'm now starting to question whether or not my obvious boy nub is actually a nub. After looking at other nubs (both genders), it seems really long, thick, and pointy. Also, it's super close to the end of the bum. I don't know if I saw one other nub that looked like it! Pulled out my boys' NT scan pics, and none had an obvious nub...one had a long skinny white line, but I don't know if that was a nub, either. And this baby's scan was yesterday at 11 wks, 2 days. It just looks giant for a nub...not saying it's not boy, but if this is a boy, then he is a little MAN already! Haha! I know I didn't post it here, but if you have a minute and want to look at the Dec/Jan/Feb 2014 thread, it is there on p. 158. Is that for sure a nub??

[I Love Ladybugs]

Thanks for all your encouragement, ladies. Emily, the reason why we swayed with this baby is that for us there will only be two children.

I had a good chat with OH earlier (and a little cry) as I wanted him to understand that I am not sad because this little one is a boy, but because we will never have a daughter. He completely understands my situation. But we also agreed that from DS1's point a brother would be great as they will have so much fun and such a strong bond. I am also a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and OH reminded me of that earlier.

I am glad you had a good talk with your OH....I remember going through pretty much the same thing as you. My boys are best of pals, and my hubby has said that he always wished for a brother instead of his sister. My SIL is odd, so I might be inclined to agree.
And on the subject of agreement, I think Meeks is right. When I viewed the video, I saw evidence that tips it to a 60 boy/40 girl split, but will try again on tomorrow am when I might have a quiet house!!

Myrainbowgirl....hold out hope! Nubs are just that, I am no pro by any means, and your little sweet one is curled right up, so I would just wait to the blood results and distract yourself in the next 2 weeks.

This is coming from the girl who is needing distraction herself....the next 4 days are going to be gone and I will have an answer on the kidneys and bladder and gender, but it feels like forever away till 2ish on Tuesday, when I will know gender for sure. And if the bladder is repairable, or if my baby is not going to make it.....

[Mathilde]

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Well here's my loot:) white and yellow bought today, blue from when we began ttc and I thought I might be ok.. Pink tights: my dream, pink bunny which DH bought on business trip to London..
And no, shopping didn't help at all, just made things worse...

[GeCon]

Myrainbowgirl, I really wouldn't worry about the nub. I do think it is too early and yes I agree with you for just over 11 weeks it looks a little odd for a nub.

Ladybugs, fingers crossed you will get the heads-up on the kidney and bladder issue and the added bonus of your little bug being a lady indeed.

Quick question for you all: Been thinking about names. We really like our DS1's middle name. That much that we would consider giving it to our DS2 as his 1st name. Honest opinions please. Is that silly? Will DS1 be thinking we have given away part of his name/identity? Or DS2 that we weren't very imaginative just passing on DS1's middle name? Argh, why did we have to give that name as a middle name? We should have kept it for potential DS2, but then again we weren't even sure we'd have more than one at the time. :rolleyes:

Getting quite excited now. Have already started looking at a new pram. :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

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Well here's my loot:) white and yellow bought today, blue from when we began ttc and I thought I might be ok.. Pink tights: my dream, pink bunny which DH bought on business trip to London..
And no, shopping didn't help at all, just made things worse...

I like that little striped onsie...it is such a cute deal...but I would not buy too much of anything! Ok, with DS2, I did a lot more shopping around the 28 week mark for him and it did help somewhat...especially with the brown/yellow/striped onsie I had purchased then. Mathilde..I do wish so hard that you have a pink bean inside!!!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon...regarding the name sharing.....I know one family that each of their 4 sons each had the dad's name as a MN. I personally want each of my kids to have their own name, letter etc....but it could be a sweet link between 2 boys to have the name shared, especially if it has dear meaning to you and your OH!!!

[Emily]

Thanks for all your encouragement, ladies. Emily, the reason why we swayed with this baby is that for us there will only be two children.

I had a good chat with OH earlier (and a little cry) as I wanted him to understand that I am not sad because this little one is a boy, but because we will never have a daughter. He completely understands my situation. But we also agreed that from DS1's point a brother would be great as they will have so much fun and such a strong bond. I am also a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and OH reminded me of that earlier.

He sounds like just the sort if person you need around. BTW 2 was my maximum too! LOL. Actually I didnt want any till i turned thirty:)

2lovely, i only know of one lady who has guven birth here. Most seem to go home.

[2lovelyboys]

Emily if you do go home what are your chances of an induction? A rough idea of date so DH can be there would be ideal! I understand u must feel like u r stuck between a rock and a hard place, need to look into what's best for you and bump, make sure that whatever decision u make wont leave u with regrets!

GeCon, I HATE picking names it's sooooooooooo difficult. I'm trying to think of names for DS3, DS1 & 2 have very traditional names, struggling to find others that fit, am thinking of naming him after DH, luckily I like his name :)
Honestly, I'm not sure I'd give mine a name I'd picked for another buts that's just my opinion. A lady I know has a little boy called Alexander then gave her DD the middle name Alexandra .............

Rainbowgirl remember 11 weeks is VERY early, try not to read touch into it just yet, easier said than done I know! I have spent the past two weeks pouring through 16 week potty shots on the net to compare with mine, and as you would expect none are, makes me more of a crazy lady!

[GeCon]

I think the fact that we are debating about using DS1's middle name just shows that we are not sold on the idea, in which case it is back to the drawing board. Well, we should have around 20 weeks left, so hopefully we'll manage to come up with as great a name as we have for DS1.

[myrainbowgirl]

GeCon - Hmmm...if you really love the name, feel free to use it again! When my mom was pg with my brother, she found my sister praying behind a chair for a little brother. Her name is Andrea (goes by Andi), and they named him Andrew after her (goes by Drew). Kinda cool! Could you maybe come up with something derived from DS1's middle name?

2lovely - Thanks for your thoughts. I am totally obsessing now...I feel your pain. After I found out DS3 was a boy, I obsessed over gender ultrasounds that turned into the other gender at birth! (Can you tell I'm a boy mom??) Haha!

AFM - Have decided something is off about the "nub" on the pic I posted. It is just too big for that age. Looked back AGAIN (yes, more obsessing) at all 3 boys' NT scan pics, and did find a definite nub in DS1's. It was long, skinny and forked (never noticed the fork before, as it's a little darker than the line), but with a very mild up angle at 11 weeks, 6 days. WAY different than the one I posted. This baby's "nub" could be partly nub, but I am really thinking maybe leg or cord is also there, making it look funny/too big.

Looked at the other 2 pics I got yesterday, and am now thinking there might be nubs in both! One is girlish (2 white lines below a cord/leg looking thingy) and one is boyish (right in line with the leg, so hard to tell what's what). So now I am confused, but still feeling boy. I am being realistic from what I've seen, I guess. I am so not prepared to "prepare" for a boy yet! It's too soon!! Feeling like it will have to be a miracle to hear girl, though.

I broke down earlier today...the boys were being awful, and DH calls in the middle of it (he had to work today and has been working lots of hours lately). I told him I cannot handle another boy, as I can't even handle the 3 I've already got...what am I going to do, I can't do it, I'm so sad & angry, cry, blubber, whimper. Ugh, what a mess I am!! He was very sweet and understanding, and thinks we should just have faith that it's a girl, despite what I think I've seen. Well, it would be a miracle! Will know soon enough, I guess.

Ok. I am done selfishly going on and on about my nub shots...you ladies need a break!! Thanks for listening, though!

[2lovelyboys]

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I've already posted this so sorry if you have already seen it :)

Rainbow girl this is the pic I've been obsessing over (16 weeks 2 days), it clearly looks like scrotum and penis but when I over analyse (as we tend to do) and look at his willy it has 3 lines, if it wasn't protruding as much I think I would be wondering, although saying that I still keep checking :)

[Mathilde]

Rainbow: i am doing the same, cross checking and counter cross checking confirmed nubs at all ages;) and praying for miracles;) hugs mathilde

[Emily]

Myrainbowgirl i have pics that make mine look like a boy in one and a girl in the other. I also think looking at the confirmed boy and girl pics on here and ingender just shows how different babies look. There are soooo many in there that look like the opposite.

I guess i coukd have an induction but dont like the sound if that much. I basically want it delivered by a stalk straight to my house here without having to go to hospital or leave my family. I think my parents might die of exhaustion if we all stayed with them for 12 weeks!

Gecon the only people who you have to think about are your sons - how would they feel about the name being use twice? If it is after someone in your family then i think you could titally fo it - it is a special name you want them both to have. How many of your friend's middle names do you know?

[meeks32]

Thanks for all your encouragement, ladies. Emily, the reason why we swayed with this baby is that for us there will only be two children.

I had a good chat with OH earlier (and a little cry) as I wanted him to understand that I am not sad because this little one is a boy, but because we will never have a daughter. He completely understands my situation. But we also agreed that from DS1's point a brother would be great as they will have so much fun and such a strong bond. I am also a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and OH reminded me of that earlier.

I so 10000% agree, the disappointment of missing out on a daughter is completely separate from the feelings about your latest boy. For me this is our last pregnancy too, although its my third, so I can put myself in your shoes all too well. I'm so sorry you lost that dream, all I can say is it will be replaced with a different one now, which will also be amazing. Xxx big big hugs

[meeks32]

GeCon - Hmmm...if you really love the name, feel free to use it again! When my mom was pg with my brother, she found my sister praying behind a chair for a little brother. Her name is Andrea (goes by Andi), and they named him Andrew after her (goes by Drew). Kinda cool! Could you maybe come up with something derived from DS1's middle name?

2lovely - Thanks for your thoughts. I am totally obsessing now...I feel your pain. After I found out DS3 was a boy, I obsessed over gender ultrasounds that turned into the other gender at birth! (Can you tell I'm a boy mom??) Haha!

AFM - Have decided something is off about the "nub" on the pic I posted. It is just too big for that age. Looked back AGAIN (yes, more obsessing) at all 3 boys' NT scan pics, and did find a definite nub in DS1's. It was long, skinny and forked (never noticed the fork before, as it's a little darker than the line), but with a very mild up angle at 11 weeks, 6 days. WAY different than the one I posted. This baby's "nub" could be partly nub, but I am really thinking maybe leg or cord is also there, making it look funny/too big.

Looked at the other 2 pics I got yesterday, and am now thinking there might be nubs in both! One is girlish (2 white lines below a cord/leg looking thingy) and one is boyish (right in line with the leg, so hard to tell what's what). So now I am confused, but still feeling boy. I am being realistic from what I've seen, I guess. I am so not prepared to "prepare" for a boy yet! It's too soon!! Feeling like it will have to be a miracle to hear girl, though.

I broke down earlier today...the boys were being awful, and DH calls in the middle of it (he had to work today and has been working lots of hours lately). I told him I cannot handle another boy, as I can't even handle the 3 I've already got...what am I going to do, I can't do it, I'm so sad & angry, cry, blubber, whimper. Ugh, what a mess I am!! He was very sweet and understanding, and thinks we should just have faith that it's a girl, despite what I think I've seen. Well, it would be a miracle! Will know soon enough, I guess.

Ok. I am done selfishly going on and on about my nub shots...you ladies need a break!! Thanks for listening, though!

I'm so sorry it's not clear one way or the other for you, but 11 weeks as you know is so early for an accurate nub guess anyway, so I think try and wait for the next scan before thinking too far either way.

You could msg ELP, she is a tech and can tell you more about your shots.

Hugs

[myrainbowgirl]

I'm so sorry it's not clear one way or the other for you, but 11 weeks as you know is so early for an accurate nub guess anyway, so I think try and wait for the next scan before thinking too far either way.

You could msg ELP, she is a tech and can tell you more about your shots.

Hugs

Thanks, Meeks. Someone else asked about my next scan, too...but actually I will know gender before my next scan. I should know gender between Aug. 19th-23rd...MaterniT21!

I had another breakdown tonight. The boys have just been hard today, and something little just set me off. DH got mad at me for being so bitchy, and then we got in this giant fight that ended with me going upstairs, locking myself in our room, and crying my eyes out. OMG. I am not enjoying what GD is doing to me. I am a grown-up, but acting like a child! I am of course, choosing to have a negative reaction, and I am at fault for that. I guess it's just being human, but still, I have the choice to stop and enjoy the rest of the pregnancy, regardless of gender. This baby is a blessing, and clearly God wanted him/her to be in our family. I NEVER get pregnant right away, was expecting at least 6-9+ months, probably longer, since I am older. Things just happened so differently this time, I KNOW God has a plan for this baby and our family. I have decided to stay off google, and quit looking at nub pics. I will know gender soon enough, and stressing over it won't change a thing. Feels good to let go. (Or at least try to at this point! :))

[meeks32]

I wrote back on the other thread! Sorry! All over the place!!

[Charlee]

Thanks, Meeks. Someone else asked about my next scan, too...but actually I will know gender before my next scan. I should know gender between Aug. 19th-23rd...MaterniT21!

I had another breakdown tonight. The boys have just been hard today, and something little just set me off. DH got mad at me for being so bitchy, and then we got in this giant fight that ended with me going upstairs, locking myself in our room, and crying my eyes out. OMG. I am not enjoying what GD is doing to me. I am a grown-up, but acting like a child! I am of course, choosing to have a negative reaction, and I am at fault for that. I guess it's just being human, but still, I have the choice to stop and enjoy the rest of the pregnancy, regardless of gender. This baby is a blessing, and clearly God wanted him/her to be in our family. I NEVER get pregnant right away, was expecting at least 6-9+ months, probably longer, since I am older. Things just happened so differently this time, I KNOW God has a plan for this baby and our family. I have decided to stay off google, and quit looking at nub pics. I will know gender soon enough, and stressing over it won't change a thing. Feels good to let go. (Or at least try to at this point! :))

I can completely relate! I've often thought I'm absolutely crazy for having #3 and now I'm even thinking about #4?? haha I've been driven mad by the GD! The GD has turned me into a bitter woman at times, so you are not alone. It's easy to say "this is meant to be" or "I am choosing to accept this outcome for today" but then in the back of my mind the little voice is whispering nasty things to me ... like "you'll only have another boy, why have 4 children for the sake of MAYBE getting a DD" or "you don't even have the patience for 2 children, why are you having more?".... UGH!

FWIW, 11 weeks is too early for nub shots really. Even the official study had less than a 50% success rate at accurately guessing nubs that early... one week at this gestation makes a world of difference! There is every possibility you could still hear GIRL, but if you don't I promise it will get easier.... the first couple weeks are the hardest :hugs:

[TTCPink]

GeCon, congratulations on your little boy! I love the little outfit in your profile pic. I promise you having two boys is a blessing. Mine are the best of buddies. They have been sitting here playing LEGOS for the past two hours together! Of course they have their disputes like all siblings, but I absolutely love that they have each other. My husband is one of three boys and they all are still very close as adults. Seeing the future of what my boys will hopefully have with each other makes me appreciate having two boys even more. I always wished I had a sister...I think it is a great thing to have a sibling of the same gender growing up. :)

[TTCPink]

Sorry I haven't been keeping up on this thread as much as I would like to.

Hope time passes quickly for those in limbo waiting to find out gender and prayers to those having a difficult time with GD right now. :hugs:

Sorry for the lack of personals at the moment. I'll be back in soon. AFM, we are in the process of investigating why it is taking so long TTC this time and I had blood work done to check hormones Fri. My DH is going in for an SA in a couple weeks. If all comes back well possibly Clomid after that. Time will tell!

[myrainbowgirl]

I can completely relate! I've often thought I'm absolutely crazy for having #3 and now I'm even thinking about #4?? haha I've been driven mad by the GD! The GD has turned me into a bitter woman at times, so you are not alone. It's easy to say "this is meant to be" or "I am choosing to accept this outcome for today" but then in the back of my mind the little voice is whispering nasty things to me ... like "you'll only have another boy, why have 4 children for the sake of MAYBE getting a DD" or "you don't even have the patience for 2 children, why are you having more?".... UGH!

FWIW, 11 weeks is too early for nub shots really. Even the official study had less than a 50% success rate at accurately guessing nubs that early... one week at this gestation makes a world of difference! There is every possibility you could still hear GIRL, but if you don't I promise it will get easier.... the first couple weeks are the hardest :hugs:

It's soooo nice having people on here who can relate to my feelings. I think what I dread the most about having another boy is silent (or not so silent) pity from people. I even have close friends who have said they couldn't handle 3 boys...they're too loud, rambunctious, into things, pee on everything, they stink, you know. Others have just hinted that they feel sorry for me. And of course, the random comments from strangers that I get literally EVERY time I'm out with all 3. Wow, 3 boys! Wow, you have your hands full! Oh, I bet you really wanted a girl! I'm sure you all have heard it before. The pity. Ugh. I heard someone on this site say that their response was to say, "No, I actually enjoy having all one gender...there's something really special about it!" I said that to someone recently, and they were completely flustered by my response. I think that is going to be my standard response to people. When they see that I'm embracing it, hoping it will shut them up! And maybe I'll really start to believe it and see how special it really is. Of course, my friends know me better than that, so I can't really pull it off with them. But, I can work on my own attitude towards the situation, and I am sure I will truly embrace it in time. Especially when the teenage years hit and all my friends are dealing with periods and revealing girl clothes and girl drama! LOL!

And yes, you are all right about nubs at 11 wks being 50/50. Hard not to assume things, though. FWIW, looking again at the nub pic I posted on the other thread, I think I found the actual nub within the "nub." Not sure if you can see it on the pic I posted here, but on my actual printout, I see a faint outline (not making this up), of a long, flat, skinny forked nub (underneath the pointy part of the huge obvious "nub.") Took me awhile to see it, but no doubt, it is there. Of course, at this gestation, that absolutely does NOT mean girl. It just means there's still a chance. :)

Hi to everyone else! Hope you all had a fabulous weekend!

[Emily]

Scan in 7 hours:nails: our house guest has just said "are you doing a chinese opposite?" Ie keeping going till we get a girl. Hmmmm suddenly don't want him in the waiting room in case i do react badly to what i hear.

[thehappypixi]

Chinese opposite! Never heard of that one! Why don't you ask the sonographer to print a potty shot and write the sex on it, put it in an envelope and take it away with you? If I decide to find out, there's no way on earth I'm doing it in a hospital and this is whati plan to do. Thinking of you! Xxxx

[Emily]

Yeah i think boys are so valued there that if people are rich enough to break the one child rule they literally keep going till they get a boy. My friend used to work there and in Thailand and had a friend who had 11 or twelve children before she got her boy.

That is a really good idea about getting the doc to write it down. I hope all my hours of starring at scans won't mean that i can spot a willy at 100 yards;)

[GeCon]

Emily, good luck at your scan later. Fingers crossed you'll see pink. I will be out later today, but will check back in as soon as I can. Good idea about having it written down, but just to let you know, don't get too fixed on the idea of having them write it down for you. I have heard a few cases where the techs wouldn't do it, I think in case it comes back to bite them in the bum. Just don't want you to be disappointed if they won't do it.

[thehappypixi]

They will avoid that area if you ask, just s explain what you'd like to do and she will probably say close your eyes now!

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon, love the new profile pic!

Rainbowgirl, love that response to having all boys, think I may adopt it 2!

Emily, good luck for 2day, with be thinking and keeping my fingers crossed for you!

[GeCon]

Ladies, just letting you know that I will probably hang around this thread more than the opposites one as whilst there is lots of support, there is also a lot of talk about more babies, which as you know is not an option for us, so I am trying to keep away from that just now. Hope that makes sense and doesn't offend anyone.

[Dreamofpink]

Ladies, just letting you know that I will probably hang around this thread more than the opposites one as whilst there is lots of support, there is also a lot of talk about more babies, which as you know is not an option for us, so I am trying to keep away from that just now. Hope that makes sense and doesn't offend anyone.

I totally understand Gecon, you'll always be welcome on the opps thread but you must do what feels right for you. I flit between a few threads too. Big hugs to you, GD is such a b*tch! X x

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[Emily]

GeCon do not worry about offending anyone. That is what i love about these ladies - no judgement just here to help when needed and understanding when you need to back off.

I am with you on no more children even if i hear blue tonight. I couldnt cope and am too old to start trying all over again.

[thehappypixi]

I have been asked if I'm hoping for a girl - I said- 'not particularly, I mean have you seen how gorgeous my boys are?!'
I hate the assumption that boy mums want girls and yes, the pity - oh it must be so hard. Seriously?! Just wait til your teenage girl has her first boyfriend and we will see who has it the hardest!!

[Charlee]

Emily I am thinking of you!!!! Any news??

[GeCon]

Another stalker here, Emily...

[2lovelyboys]

Emily .......stalking.........

GeCon, your not offending anyone! We are all here to chat and support no matter what thread you would prefer to post on!

[GeCon]

Thanks all, I just didn't want anyone to think I was being ungrateful. I appreciate the other thread and will no doubt post in it, it is just at the moment I am finding it easier in here if that makes sense.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Huge GeCon xxx

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon, you do what feels right for you! I know how delicate you feel at the moment and sometimes removing yourself from certain situations is easier! I'm slowly getting my head round my feelings, have started exercising, very gently, that is helping with my GD I think, I also figure if I can't be a girl mum then I'm gonna be a yummy boy mum :) ahhhhhahahaha :rofl:

[GeCon]

I am feeling pretty okay at the moment. I am excited about our new addition regardless of the gender, have looked the prams and haven't really thought much about it all.

But reading how others deal with it by planning another baby and sway makes me realise what I will never have and as I said at the moment I am not burying my head in the sand, but it isn't really constantly in my head either.

[Charlee]

GeCon - I'm so sorry if the opposites thread is making you feel bad... I think most of us are just in the denial stage of grief over there! I think talking about a different situation makes us feel more in control of what is going on in the present moment.

FWIW, I am talking about #4 when I'm not even sure I have the gusto to do it. But it makes me feel better to think I might have a chance... but really, deep down, I'm not sure AT ALL that I will actually do it. I can't wrap my head around my house full of 3 boys at the moment!

So please don't feel bad, or that you don't have the same chance as anyone else. I think when the cards are down, many of us won't have a DD... but talking about the what ifs make us feel better....

Hope that helps :)

[Dreamofpink]

I agree with Charlee totally. However, I'm considering my next sway like it'll definitely happen whilst conveniently forgetting that this birth poses a bit of a risk for me & any potential pregnancies in the future. I'm stuck between a rock & hard place as I'm being supported by my consultant in attempting a vba2c. But my risk for a uterine rupture is about 0.9%. If I chose to go for a c-section it also carries risks too which are higher for any subsequent pregnancies. If I can pull off a successful vbac then I should be fine, however if I don't at worst I could lose my womb. :( I may not have a choice in ttc again.

I set up the opps thread purely to have somewhere to express my anguish & gd without bringing anyone else down as the other threads were so full of hope & optimism - quite right too!! We're here for you either way, just take your time & be kind to yourself x x

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[2lovelyboys]

Dream, Im going for my 2nd VBAC, definitely worth a try and if all else fails there is always the csection. The only prob with a section after planning a VBAC is that it's likely to be an emergency and that's not pleasant but for me this time it's worth a go!

[GeCon]

Thanks for your understanding, ladies. Really I didn't want to cause any drama, that's why I posted it in here rather than over there as I didn't want people to think they were doing anything wrong by posting about future babies/sways. I just didn't want anyone to think I am not using the other thread for some strange reason. Anyway... :hugs:

Still waiting for Emily...

[Dreamofpink]

That's fab that you're going for your 2nd vbac 2LB! I really hope it goes smoothly. My vbac failed with ds2 so usually it's a recommended planned section but I really don't want that. There's no reason why I can't give birth naturally. Ds1 was an ecs at 30 weeks (6 weeks away!!) due to severe PET. Ds2 my waters went after a very rough internal at 40 weeks & I didn't progress past 2cm after 36 hours. It's always risky isn't it but the stats show that there's a higher risk of rupture with a first time mum being induced chemically than with a vbac or vba2c where the mum has gone into labour on her own. I totally recommend the VBAC book if you haven't already read it. Btw, did you get your clomid purely for swaying? How will you go about getting it again? Just curious! My box expires when ds3 will be 10/11 months old & I usually don't get ppaf until 8 months pp. It's cutting it fine & I would prefer a bigger age gap really.

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[Dreamofpink]

Has anyone else been having mild period like pains on & off plus a lot of pressure down low at times too? I've never experienced BH before but it would be lovely to get them this time around, although maybe not this early. I'm only 23w4d!

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[meeks32]

Has anyone else been having mild period like pains on & off plus a lot of pressure down low at times too? I've never experienced BH before but it would be lovely to get them this time around, although maybe not this early. I'm only 23w4d!

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Is your bump going hard at the same time as the period like pain? If so, thats braxton hicks. I got them super early with ds1 and 2, way before 23w, so dont worry if its safe (of course if it gets painful, or worse, or too close together you need to get checked). Mine were often painless, and I would notice because my belly went hard and I had a hot flush! Sometimes they came with very mild period pain. They often happened every 10 mins for an hour or two. Apparently you have more if you are doing too much or not drinking enough so make sure you keep fluids up (pretty much nothing you can do about being busy third time around, is there!!??).

They are usually considered quite useful for preparing the body for labour. Not in my case, unfortunately, since I ended in emergency caserian after 48hrs active labour with ds1 & 1.5hrs pushing, and he wrecked so much ds2 and this one have to be caesarian. BUT I still believe they are good for you!

[meeks32]

Gecon I totally dont think anyone would take offence. Em said it nicely, the good thing about the ladies here is we truly and perhaps uniquely understand GD, and embrace any reaction as normal and acceptable!! You are definitely not offending anyone, you do whats right for you.

Ladybugs I spent a week thinking I had a boy at 11-12 weeks, then at 12 weeks it morphed into a girl nub and now I don't know what to think. At least you will be put out of your misery by a definitive test result. Even at my next scan at 15w I wont have all the answers beyond doubt (unless there is a mega man package on display). I really wouldn't get too worked up about an 11w nub (HELLO POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK, totally what I did too!) because logically we all know 11w is too early to be a reliable nub. Emotionally of course, we go to town anyway dont we!!

[meeks32]

EM - WHAT HAPPENED???

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon I totally dont think anyone would take offence. Em said it nicely, the good thing about the ladies here is we truly and perhaps uniquely understand GD, and embrace any reaction as normal and acceptable!! You are definitely not offending anyone, you do whats right for you.

Ladybugs I spent a week thinking I had a boy at 11-12 weeks, then at 12 weeks it morphed into a girl nub and now I don't know what to think. At least you will be put out of your misery by a definitive test result. Even at my next scan at 15w I wont have all the answers beyond doubt (unless there is a mega man package on display). I really wouldn't get too worked up about an 11w nub (HELLO POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK, totally what I did too!) because logically we all know 11w is too early to be a reliable nub. Emotionally of course, we go to town anyway dont we!!
You mean Myrainbowgirl? or me :) I am going to know things in about 24 hours..with everything and hopefully have a plan :)

[myrainbowgirl]

You mean Myrainbowgirl? or me :) I am going to know things in about 24 hours..with everything and hopefully have a plan :)

I think she meant me!! :)

So happy you will know so soon...aaah, so exciting!

Emily - Thinking of you...

[GeCon]

Emily, hope all is well. Can't wait any longer... Off to get some sleep.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I think she meant me!! :)

So happy you will know so soon...aaah, so exciting!

Emily - Thinking of you...

Myrainbowgirl....that is what I thought. You are so close to knowing too..

Gecon....cute new sleeper in the profile pic. I think that I will leave my existing avatar in as it applies to what is now going on for me. I know how it feels to be in your shoes....lots of ((hugs))

And Emily..............I thought I could pull long drawn out wait tomorrow, but you will have topped me! I hope you are shopping for pink....lots of congrats either way! Are you going to tell the boys? How are you is what I should be asking? I hope that the scan went well and your baby is HEALTHY!!!!!!

AFM...I will update via Dream most likely...when I find wifi. I am just a sleep away from knowing more....and it is probably going to be a rough sleep. Here today after the longest bus ride ever, very hot room, not a lot of sleep, but the plus side is here...this lounge with its free wifi is nice!!!

[GeCon]

What time is your appointment, Ladybug? Thinking of you and lots of hugs.

[I Love Ladybugs]

What time is your appointment, Ladybug? Thinking of you and lots of hugs.

It begins at 8:40 and should be over by 3 pm. It is going to be a long day and I doubt that I will be able to post right on after, but I will be posting here once I get wifi or access via Dream posting for me. Thanks for the hugs!!

[Charlee]

Good luck tomorrow Ladybug!

Em you are KILLING me! Haha

[Emily]

Hi ladies. No news:( just regular OB appointment heartbeat great but no proper scan till 22 weeks. We saw a head, heart and legs as he zoomed in on the heartbeat but not clues. The doc is lovely but the receptionist is a bit dizzy hence the confusion.

Thinking of you GeCOn.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Hi ladies. No news:( just regular OB appointment heartbeat great but no proper scan till 22 weeks. We saw a head, heart and legs as he zoomed in on the heartbeat but not clues. The doc is lovely but the receptionist is a bit dizzy hence the confusion.

Thinking of you GeCOn.

Aww......a few more weeks now :) Did you get any pix of baby? How was the OB?

[meeks32]

I think she meant me!! :)

So happy you will know so soon...aaah, so exciting!

Emily - Thinking of you...

haha sorry, rainbows and ladybugs are similar metaphors in my mind! lol

[meeks32]

Myrainbowgirl....that is what I thought. You are so close to knowing too..

Gecon....cute new sleeper in the profile pic. I think that I will leave my existing avatar in as it applies to what is now going on for me. I know how it feels to be in your shoes....lots of ((hugs))

And Emily..............I thought I could pull long drawn out wait tomorrow, but you will have topped me! I hope you are shopping for pink....lots of congrats either way! Are you going to tell the boys? How are you is what I should be asking? I hope that the scan went well and your baby is HEALTHY!!!!!!

AFM...I will update via Dream most likely...when I find wifi. I am just a sleep away from knowing more....and it is probably going to be a rough sleep. Here today after the longest bus ride ever, very hot room, not a lot of sleep, but the plus side is here...this lounge with its free wifi is nice!!!

sorry everyone is finding out at once I am loosing track! Good luck for tomorrow hun!!!

[meeks32]

Hi ladies. No news:( just regular OB appointment heartbeat great but no proper scan till 22 weeks. We saw a head, heart and legs as he zoomed in on the heartbeat but not clues. The doc is lovely but the receptionist is a bit dizzy hence the confusion.

Thinking of you GeCOn.

oh what an anticlimax for you (and us!!). How many weeks until 22 weeks? I cant see signatures and never get time on the real computer.

[Charlee]

Awwwww sorry Em! What a letdown! Glad to hear baby is doing well though :)

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - What a bummer! So sorry! 2 more weeks, it looks like...looking forward to hearing your news then. :)

Ladybugs - GL tomorrow! Will pray for your sweet baby and that all is well. Can't wait to hear!

Meeks - Have you decided to try to find out on the 27th?? I would totally do it! :)

AFM - Trying to keep my chin up, and trying to stay off google! Not feeling so hot these days. Feeling sick, almost worse than early on. Still not to the point of needing to throw up, just nauseous. Also, NASTY taste in my mouth, and certain things I eat taste weird, almost like chemicals. Yuck.

[I Love Ladybugs]

haha sorry, rainbows and ladybugs are similar metaphors in my mind! lol

I like that thought meeks!!!!! I also am having a rainbow baby....the metaphors are so sweet...now all we need are little emoticons like hotmail!!

[GeCon]

Emily, what a shame that you didn't get to find out. Has the new appointment been made yet?

Ladybugs, I'll say it again. Good luck with your rather long appointment today and fingers crossed it will bring you all the answers you are hoping for.

[Emily]

Aww......a few more weeks now :) Did you get any pix of baby? How was the OB?

No pix either. OB was nice and also positive about having the baby here. He checked the heartbeat on a monitor but made it clear we would not be having a scan this time. As he was moving around we got a quick glimpse of bits of the baby - lovely long legs:) The person who does the scans is a tech and uses 4D (?) at 22 weeks. What is 4D? I guess it means the equipment is good and at 22 weeks the gender should be clear. There is no way i could have stayed team green or got him to write it down! I zoomed in straight away looking for clues!

We will tell the boys what they are getting as soon as we know. I think it will help them bond and they need certainty at the moment.

Sorry for keeping you all waiting :) We went out till late and my phone here doesnt save my password etc for this website. No appointmnet date yet as the secretary had to contact the tech who was not working last night. In roughly 2 weeks time.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I will be at my friend's place later today and will not be able to be on genderdreaming....but I will get Dream to give you the update on it all. Thanks again Dream...you rock!

Emily....I am glad you got an appt..too bad about the miscommunication, but I bet your wee baby was lovely!!!

Myrainbowgirl...I have been waiting for a rainbow, but we only had a sprinkle of rain on the bus ride...it would have been a great sign!!!!

AFM....only 3 more hours until the start of the appt....and a long day! Baby had been kicking so much yesterday...calmer right now, but I was enjoying the tapping away yesterday.

[2lovelyboys]

Emily, glad your little one is doing well, it's always lovely to hear the heartbeat and see them even if its just a glimpse! I always cry when I hear the heartbeat, something magical about it!
Did you feel more confident about the thought of giving birth there? I think 4D is video (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

How is everyone else doing today?

Dream, DS1 was an emergency section at 42 weeks, was induced and it all went downhill from there boooo! With DS2 I wanted a VBAC, they were worried about my need for induction and that may lead to another section so at 39 weeks they started with stretch and sweeps, had 3 in total and went into labour myself, all went well. I think the plan is to do something similar again with this one but may start a bit earlier 38 weeks ish X.

[Charlee]

Good luck today Ladybug! Praying they give you good news about your little rainbow girly girl! :)

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, I'll say it again. Good luck with your rather long appointment today and fingers crossed it will bring you all the answers you are hoping for.

Can't wait to hear...