October 2013 babies!

[ELP]

peb, 7 sons is going to be amazing!!! I would love to keep going til I have 7 boys:)

[ELP]

So its peb and nachelle for scans this week? Anyone else? Good luck ladies!

My anomaly scan is STILL 22 days away-not that I'm counting or anything :wink:

aussie, whats your scan date?? Will you have the last scan of the group I wonder!!!

[motherofboys]

Feel like my bump is smaller today, and baby seems to be hiding. I felt him when eating dinner last night, and possibly this morning while half asleep but can't be sure and thats it. 19 weeks tomorrow. Then I pulled my back and belly when DS3 ran to me after pre-school and I picked him up. I've been saying to him for a few weeks that 'soon' I won't be able to pick him up any more. I think 'soon' might actually be arriving now.

[motherofboys]

Forgive me:) I lose track of people!! Its just going to be so nice seeing him again won't it:) I can't wait to see LO, scans are just so exciting arent they! I hope all the Octobers stay H&H til the end:FX: and are alll born nice and fat!! Whats everyones biggest?? ANyone think they may be due a real juicy little pudding??

My biggest (so far, and hopefully will remain that way) is my eldest. He was 8lb 15oz so not massive, but the new born suits I took to hospital didn't actually fit him LOL I then had 7lb 14 and 8lb 4. I don't want a tiny baby because I'd be scared of hurting them but somewhere around the 7/8lb would be nice. I want them to be little as long as possible.

[pebmcpd7]

My biggest (so far, and hopefully will remain that way) is my eldest. He was 8lb 15oz so not massive, but the new born suits I took to hospital didn't actually fit him LOL I then had 7lb 14 and 8lb 4. I don't want a tiny baby because I'd be scared of hurting them but somewhere around the 7/8lb would be nice. I want them to be little as long as possible.

My smallest baba was 8lb 9oz, my biggest 10lb 8oz!! They are going to test me for gestational diabetics this time because I have such big babies....

[xokatietatie]

Feel like my bump is smaller today, and baby seems to be hiding. I felt him when eating dinner last night, and possibly this morning while half asleep but can't be sure and thats it. 19 weeks tomorrow. Then I pulled my back and belly when DS3 ran to me after pre-school and I picked him up. I've been saying to him for a few weeks that 'soon' I won't be able to pick him up any more. I think 'soon' might actually be arriving now.

DS3 doesn't seem to understand that I'm not supposed to pick him up. He's 38 pounds!! I still do all the time though. Oops!

[xokatietatie]

Forgive me:) I lose track of people!! Its just going to be so nice seeing him again won't it:) I can't wait to see LO, scans are just so exciting arent they! I hope all the Octobers stay H&H til the end:FX: and are alll born nice and fat!! Whats everyones biggest?? ANyone think they may be due a real juicy little pudding??

Yes, I'm excited to see him again!!

My boys were 7 lbs 5 oz, 7 lbs 8 oz and 9 lbs 3 oz. DS1 was my longest labor and I pushed for almost 2 hours. I had an epidural with him and it was the biggest mistake ever. I pushed DS2 and DS3 naturally with no meds (DS2 was 3 pushes and DS3 was hard pushing for under 4 minutes).

[motherofboys]

DS3 doesn't seem to understand that I'm not supposed to pick him up. He's a 38 pounds!! I still do all the time though. Oops!

He acts like he understands and says that my belly will get big and that his a big boy, but then still asks LOL

[motherofboys]

My smallest baba was 8lb 9oz, my biggest 10lb 8oz!! They are going to test me for gestational diabetics this time because I have such big babies....

Wow 10lb 8! By the end last time everyone was saying I was so big he had to be a 10lber and then came out as 8lb 4 LOL

[Navywife620]

Well DS1 woke up this morning puking. First day of our summer break! Wonderful! We are supposed to have a little family trip this weekend to dallas. I am praying no one else in the house gets it!

[aussiettc]

12th June!!! Its killing me, especially as I've got a scan package with a private provider with scans scheduled at 26 and 32 weeks (I had complications with my last pregnancy/labour so wanting to keep a closer eye on this baby). I keep debating ringing them and adding another but really can't afford to so forcing myself to be patient (which I'm not very good at!) Think I must be the last of this group of ladies? My due date is 29th so not surprising. I'm loving hearing everyone elses' news but driving myself nuts guessing!!!

[Nachelle]

So I had my sono early this morning and decided to find out there. I am super tired because I cried for an hour straight because its a girl! (happy tears) I am still in shock! But she didnt give me a pic of the lady bits and when I asked her if I could go buy pink stuff she said yeah but save the receipts. She said she saw no signs of male genitalia and shes confident its a girl. DO you think they can get it wrong at 18 weeks?? Im very hesitate and want another scan! Im scared she may be wrong

[ELP]

This is great news nachelle!!!! Congrats on your little girl xxx Would it be possible for your own peace of mind to book a double confirmation scan???

[Nachelle]

Thats what I want to do. I can get one when Im 25 weeks at that tech school so I pllan on doing that before any big decisions. Im still convinced its a boy. I was happy and excited this morning but now Im in denial. I dont llike how she said that and I even asked for a pic of the girls parts and she onlly gave me crap face shots. SO wellll see!

[Navywife620]

Yay!!!! I knew it was a girl! !!!!!!

[Mrs_P]

So I had my sono early this morning and decided to find out there. I am super tired because I cried for an hour straight because its a girl! (happy tears) I am still in shock! But she didnt give me a pic of the lady bits and when I asked her if I could go buy pink stuff she said yeah but save the receipts. She said she saw no signs of male genitalia and shes confident its a girl. DO you think they can get it wrong at 18 weeks?? Im very hesitate and want another scan! Im scared she may be wrong

from my experience its harder to sex girls for definite - techs seemed to have no probs with its a boy 100% at 20 weeks with any of mine and i never doubted it, this one i have now had three i think its a girl scans (20, 21 and 34 weeks) by three different techs but still no-one will say 100% but she has no sign of boy bits and a genetics test said girl so i'm pretty sure she is one.

I know it seems hard after 3 boys and i still don't believe it but do try to enjoy it, go buy pink

[ELP]

Nachelle! I just checked your nub shots, thats a girl!! You had very! girly nub shots, now and 18 week scan saying girl! Go buy pink woman:bigsmile:

[pebmcpd7]

Congrats Nachelle,
My neighbour had a little girl this morning after 2 boys!!! I cried so hard when I looked at her Facebook page... Everyone is saying congrats you now have a wee friend for life and a shopping companion, things I wish for!!!
I was OK until I heard this, my DH is mad with me, he said we should be grateful everything is OK. I am grateful I just wish it was a girl :( I feel bad for thinking this....
Shit I am dreading meeting her now....
And i am starting to show, I won't be able to hide it much longer!!! so I will have to listen to all the comments now....

[Pangea]

Congratulations Nachelle! I knew you were going to hear girl!

Peb that must be really hard. My MIL has 2 boys and a girl and she was saying to me recently how she thought she would have that sort of relationship with her daughter but they aren't close at all, purely down to SILs personality. DH is way more likely to do stuff with MIL than SIL. There are no guarantees, those things people say are just stereotypes.

[motherofboys]

Congratulations on your pink bump!

Peb it must be so hard. I think you DH needs to cut you a little slack. You know that the most important thing is that his healthy, but you also had a dream of a little girl that you have to let go of and accept that something you wanted in life isn't going to happen for you, when it seems to happen, some times so easily, for others.

[lime]

Nachelle, congrats again! I'm sure it's a girl, but if you feel that you want more confirmation, then definitely do the u/s at 25 weeks at the u/s school.

Peb, I agree with what Pangea said above. Just stereotypes.

[Navywife620]

Girls are starting to make a come back! ! Who is next for their scan? Mine isnt until june 4th

[motherofboys]

Has anyone noticed people looking for a bump? I have noticed in the last week or so that people like other Mums in the playground etc will say Hi, look at me then flick their eyes down as if looking to see a bump. Its been so miserable, weather wise, here that I'm wearing my coat still (yes on the 22nd of MAY) so there isn't much to see with that on LOL

[pebmcpd7]

Has anyone noticed people looking for a bump? I have noticed in the last week or so that people like other Mums in the playground etc will say Hi, look at me then flick their eyes down as if looking to see a bump. Its been so miserable, weather wise, here that I'm wearing my coat still (yes on the 22nd of MAY) so there isn't much to see with that on LOL

No one has noticed my bump yet, not even my mum. But I have really feel like i 'popped' today...
I was hoping to hide it for a few more weeks, til 23/24 weeks anyhow...

[Nachelle]

Thanks lladies!! I def want confirmation! But although I am excited, I feel super guilty and sad that I heard girl and some of you ladies didnt hear you DG. It makes me feel horrible!! I almost didnt want to post it! I just wish everybody coulld have gotten their DG! Im really nervous now, my firend tolld me they tolld her girl at 21 weeks and she found out it was a boy at 34!!! EEKK! I def need another scan!

[*ruby*]

Congrats on your girl Nachelle!!! I'm sure she is a girl but think I'd want double confirmation as well just for reassurance.

My scan is on the 5th June.
People have been noticing my bump at work for the last couple of weeks, it's not big yet but I do wear fitted tops to work so I guess it's quite noticeable. Definitely notice the quick glances to that area but usually don't say anything, I figure they can either ask or wait for me to mention it.

[pebmcpd7]

Thanks lladies!! I def want confirmation! But although I am excited, I feel super guilty and sad that I heard girl and some of you ladies didnt hear you DG. It makes me feel horrible!! I almost didnt want to post it! I just wish everybody coulld have gotten their DG! Im really nervous now, my firend tolld me they tolld her girl at 21 weeks and she found out it was a boy at 34!!! EEKK! I def need another scan!

Don't feel guilty, enjoy your good news!!! XXX

[Lld2006]

Congrats, Nachelle! Yes we are super jealous, lol, but very happy for you & want you to enjoy the feeling of getting your girl!!!

My ultrasound is June 10th. My mom incoming into town to go with me and DH for "extra support." I'm excited she will get to see an ultrasound "live" for the very first time...so fun for her! I also feel she will be the support and voice of reason I will need when I very likely hear its about. To remind u all, I had that very obvious penis potty shot at 12+4. The tech wouldn't say boy or girl it I'd be shocked if it isn't a boy. I try hard to avoid google on other people's pics of early potty shots, but I still do it from time to time and it isn't looking good! I get depressed when I look online so I know it's best not to. I'm feeling so much better lately that I almost feel like hearing those words will put me back into depression again. :(

We are desperate for boy names. We like Madden and Cooper but aren't sold 100% on either. Any unique suggestions?

[xokatietatie]

Congrats Nachelle

[aussiettc]

Nachelle-Huge congratulations on hearing pink! Really happy for you xx

[motherofboys]

We are desperate for boy names. We like Madden and Cooper but aren't sold 100% on either. Any unique suggestions?

Because I like Seth and the most familiar Seth to DH is Seth Rogan he keeps calling the baby Rogan. I actually really like it! I know Logan is becoming quite popular but I've never heard Rogan as a first name.

[My3SweetPeas]

Nachelle- congrats!! Did you sway???

[My Three Sons]

Congrats Nachelle!

[My Three Sons]

Congrats, Nachelle! Yes we are super jealous, lol, but very happy for you & want you to enjoy the feeling of getting your girl!!!

My ultrasound is June 10th. My mom incoming into town to go with me and DH for "extra support." I'm excited she will get to see an ultrasound "live" for the very first time...so fun for her! I also feel she will be the support and voice of reason I will need when I very likely hear its about. To remind u all, I had that very obvious penis potty shot at 12+4. The tech wouldn't say boy or girl it I'd be shocked if it isn't a boy. I try hard to avoid google on other people's pics of early potty shots, but I still do it from time to time and it isn't looking good! I get depressed when I look online so I know it's best not to. I'm feeling so much better lately that I almost feel like hearing those words will put me back into depression again. :(

We are desperate for boy names. We like Madden and Cooper but aren't sold 100% on either. Any unique suggestions?

Our oldest is named Cooper so of course I am partial to it. :)

[Navywife620]

I too, feel like I am not really showing. I feel like my love handles are growing with my belly just making me look just chunky. I was looking at old pregnancy pictures today and I am starting to think I am carrying this baby as I did the boys. Which is starting to make me think probably another boy in there.

[Nachelle]

Thanks ladies! ANd no i didnt sway, it was a total surprise BFP. I was trying but then when I decided to take a break I got pregnant!

[LolaInLove]

Congrats, Nachelle! So happy for you!

Oh my gosh, I am way showing. I felt like I was at 8-9 weeks, but I remember showing earlier with #2 also. I am already rolling around in the bed like a whale.

Not that my scan will be a big surprise, but it's June 5 also. Will be fun to see the baby again, and ya know, still hoping there's a wiener there.

ELP, when is yours? Are you finding out with this one?

So, I have a question for you all: I had a c-section with my first baby because she was sunny side up, and then a vbac with my second. I hired a doula and intended to try to go natural, but my labor was 14 intense hours and I was just beat tired and couldn't take the pain anymore so I begged for and got an epidural at 9cm. I just didn't think I could do it because I was so tired and I was also, quite frankly, getting terrified of the "ring of fire" etc because I was getting into the grunty squatting phase. I think I was just tired, and my contractions were nonstop, and there was nothing the doula could do to help me. Now, my old doula has her own birth center and I recently met a midwife there who is awesome and said that even though I had a c-section and there are "regulations" against someone having a vbac outside of a hospital, that she or another midwife could come over an OOPS, I could "accidentally" have a home birth. What do you all think? Those of you that have had natural births, do you think I could handle another try, or a homebirth given my long labor? Have you all felt that #3, 4 etc were easier labors?

[Kiara]

Thanks ladies! ANd no i didnt sway, it was a total surprise BFP. I was trying but then when I decided to take a break I got pregnant!


Congratulations Nachelle! Im really happy for you. Haha, it was the same for me. I was swaying but then I decided to take a little break (I felt like I never got pregnant and that I didnt want to put on more weight) and then I got pregnant. I was still taking some of the vitamins but not swaying as hard as before. But around the date we concieved we were on an all inclusive vaccation and eating a a lot so I guess that helped too:D

[Nachelle]

lolainlove- Im thinking your 2nd was hard because since you had a c-section first, your 2nd was kind of like your first. SO I believe it woulld be easier. It would be your 2nd vaginal birth. My first labor was loooonnnngggg and very painful and I got an epidural, And my 2nd was way easier. I only had to push 2x and he was out. With my first I pushed for 2 Hours!!! My 2nd was 9lbs 10 oz too! So in my experience my 2nd vaginal birth was alot easier and less painful then my 1st! HTH! :)

[Kira]

Congratulations, Nachelle! I had a feeling you would be having a girl... maybe just because there have been so many baby boys due in October from this group. :) I am so happy for you!!! I recall you saying that your husband wanted to wait until the birth to find out the sex. Will it be hard to keep your great news from your husband? Will he see your face or read your demeanor and just know it's a girl?

[Navywife620]

I decided to start a blog. I needed somewhere to just express my feelings and not be judged about dreaming for a girl.

[motherofboys]

NavyWife I do think writing is a great way to get those feelings out. And I love the idea of a blog as it may even help people in a similar situation who find it. I will however say be careful. People who don't understand may find it and make some nasty comments. If you think you can ignore those comments then go for it. But being pregnant and hormonal and already in a place where you may feel guilty for wanting one gender over another, those comments could really sting. If you did go ahead and do one, I would read it though, just so you know LOL

LolaInLove I have to say me 2nd was my easiest so far but then that was because he just didn't want to wait and I never even had to push. DH even missed the birth because the midwife told him we had hours to go (I was 4-5 cms, home birth) and DS1 woke up so he nipped him to his sisters, a 20 minute round trip. Got home to see me sitting there with a baby.
Mind you having had a vbac I'm not sure how much, if any labour you went through with your first as you say it was due to position of baby. That vbac may have counted as a 1st labour. My 3rd was only 30 minutes longer than my second and the general labour was not too hard. Also as a big fan of home births myself I will say you are so much more relaxed at home that it really helps with speeding things up and with controlling the pain with out drugs. You have so much more freedom. I would think about how close you are to the hospital and how healthy you are and the likely hood of any issues. If your labour was quicker and you were more relaxed you wouldn't be as tired or as scared (although its normal to get panicky during that stage of labour, find some relaxation techniques to help with that) so could do it.
It all comes down to what you feel comfortable doing, if your not comfortable it wont help you. Good Luck.

[Nachelle]

Thanks Kira! HE saw me crying and he assumed boy. He kept asking so I showed him a little dress that said Daddys girl. ANd he was in shock. BUt he doesnt seem too excited. Before he walked in the basement he said, "Well it llooks like Im going to have to go buy a gun!" Hes a weirdo! I think hes just nervous to have a girl. I am starting to get nervous too. Im so used to boys! ANd Im still in Denial! Im going to schedule a confirmation scan at 25 weeks!

[strawberrymom]

I wanted to congratulate everyone on their healthy little ones. I have been on vacation so was unable to post. And lola you are not the only one with a huge bump. A shopkeeper asked me the other day if I was around 5 months along (oh and I LOVE :rolleyes: talking to complete strangers about my personal business). Everyone asks if I know what I am having and I tell them I don't because they imply, or come right out and say, that I must be hoping for a girl. I feel that discounts DS2 who has had that ever since he was born (hardly any recognition of him from friends and family). I wanted him to be a son and he is wonderful and loves playing with his older brother.
My anomaly u/s is the 30th. I am pretty excited to get a pic of my little one and make sure she is healthy. After that, I am switching over to a midwife. My docs are the midwives backup if emergency occurs, but their practice is huge and you never know who you are going to get for delivery. Most are ok, but last time they threw me the new doc who despite me being in the natural birth center of the hospital, and labor progressing, decided to break my waters and then tried to give me pitocin. DH got the nurses involved on fighting that one and I ended up delivering my son 10 min after she tried to do that. Oh and 2 months later she was not at the practice any longer,so I doubt I was the only one.

[xokatietatie]

I too, feel like I am not really showing. I feel like my love handles are growing with my belly just making me look just chunky. I was looking at old pregnancy pictures today and I am starting to think I am carrying this baby as I did the boys. Which is starting to make me think probably another boy in there.

I have two blogs!! Well I HAD two blogs -- one is just to keep my family and friends updated, there's not much real writing on there but it's the one everyone follows. The second one was a private blog that was more like a personal diary, all about my desire to have a daughter. I deleted it once I heard boy though. There's no point in wasting my time on it anymore.

[LolaInLove]

I think blogs are great too, and writing is indeed super cathartic!

Thanks for the birth advice....I am not far from a hospital at all, but my DH is scared of the home birth idea (this is his first...my girls are from previous marriage), so it may not be right for me in the long run for that reason. I just have this desire to have something different than before this time around. I don't like being in the hospital, and got dirty looks and nurses trying to hush me up when I was laboring naturally last time, which annoyed me. Plus I'd like for my girls to be there if they want to, which I know they won't let them do in the hospital.

[motherofboys]

I would maybe go ahead and book for the home birth, and then you can labour at home as long as you want, with a midwife present so you don't have to worry too much medically. Then if you feel you want to transfer in then go in.
Obviously the stuff I said is just theory and whats been true for me, and I've only had 3 so far. There are some ladies on here with twice as many as me LOL

[motherofboys]

Also telling DH your just going to labour at home with a midwife there for support and to put both your minds at rest and then most likely transfer in will probably win him round a little then if you do end up having baby at home it will seem like it just got to too late a stage in labour to move and he will be so over whelmed with his new born son he wont care. Once baby is here safe the fear of 'what if' isn't really an issue because its in the past.

[ELP]

NavyWife I do think writing is a great way to get those feelings out. And I love the idea of a blog as it may even help people in a similar situation who find it. I will however say be careful. People who don't understand may find it and make some nasty comments. If you think you can ignore those comments then go for it. But being pregnant and hormonal and already in a place where you may feel guilty for wanting one gender over another, those comments could really sting.
Just a quick comment on this, there was a lady on IG who made a blog and her little boy was born ill, she did receive alot of harsh comments about her previous GD, so maybe make one here and make it so only people on your contacts list can view it, that way you get it out but you know your safe:)

[xokatietatie]

AAHHH!!! I'm 20 weeks today. We're halfway there! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

[strawberrymom]

went through the thread and think I found the right dates of everyone still to find out scans. I couldn't find kira, wannagirl21, or issima and let me know if I got anyone wrong.
Trueblue- June 1
Pangea- June 7
Jamieshalon- June 10
*ruby*- June 3
Navywife620- June 4
Lld2006- June 6
ELP- June 3
Aussiettc- June 12
Also lolainlove and mine to confirm are mat21 test results are coming up- May 30 for me and June 5 for lola. Looking forward to the next couple weeks:celebrate:!

[strawberrymom]

Because I like Seth and the most familiar Seth to DH is Seth Rogan he keeps calling the baby Rogan. I actually really like it! I know Logan is becoming quite popular but I've never heard Rogan as a first name.
I like it. It makes me think of Rowan and Logan which I like both, but agree Logan has become too popular.

[xokatietatie]

I got enormous overnight.

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[LolaInLove]

Aw, Katie, look at that belly! I look about the same, maybe even a little bigger. Congrats on being officially halfway there!

Thanks motherofboys for that advice....that is a good idea. I will ask her what she'd charge to come over and do that....it may be tricky since I have hospital midwives (it is actually a big medical practice that is half OBs and half midwives, and you can choose to see either one, but you see them the whole time), so I can't have one of the hospital midwives come over, or even know about any of this, to be honest. So I'd have to have the birth center mw come over and then see what happens. There are too many stupid regulations about home births with past c-section patients, even if it was 11 years ago and I had a good vbac since then.

Strawberrymom, thanks for keeping tabs on the dates and babies!

[motherofboys]

I didn't even really think about where in the world you are or if the policy is different with a past c-section. I know here (and with out previous c-sections) you don't even really see a doctor. Its just a team of community midwifes, you see who ever is on duty that day when you have your appointments and they are all linked to your hospital. So when you phone the hospital in labour if you have a home birth booked they contact who ever is on duty at the time.

I know it sounds silly and it goes to show that I am a Mum of 3 boys who are into their super heroes but, I think Rogan sounds like the name of the child is Wolverine (whos name is Logan) and Rogue from X-men had a baby LOL

Katie your bump looks great. I keep feeling mine has shrunk LOL Baby is very active today/tonight.

MIL bought all of the boys some new clothes. It was supposed to be a reward because DS1 and DS2 had a judo competition last Saturday with DS1 getting silver and DS2 getting gold.
All 3 boys got t-shirts in too small sizes, and she bought the baby 2 outfits one of which I think was supposed to be neutral but looked very girly to me. Even DH commented afterwards that he thought it was too girly and he'd just have to wear it once so she sees then put it away.
Oh well I suppose she made the effort at least. Plenty wouldn't.

[motherofboys]

Also heart burn has kicked in already :( I usually don't get it for another 10-15 weeks yet.

[strawberrymom]

Also heart burn has kicked in already :( I usually don't get it for another 10-15 weeks yet.
I am feeling it too.
The boys great grandma buys them bags of clothes from rummage sales. The ones that aren't my style I resell at consignment sales.

[motherofboys]

Had a tiny moment of "why couldn't I have just had a girl" today. I have had piles of clothes that the boys have grown out of sitting round for ages. So today I finally sorted them into 'keep', 'charity' and 'bin' piles. Trying to find boxes to put the keeping stuff in to go in the loft, and finding things that must have got mixed into the wrong stuff in the past so needs putting into other boxes already in the loft. It was such a huge job, and I was so fed up and wanted to just bin most of it and only keep the very best/favourite, things but DH wont let me, only stuff which isn't in a good enough condition. Plus we were rearranging rooms and sorting toys and theres stuff not been played with in a year, 18 months but he wont let me throw it away in case the baby is into that sort of stuff in another 2 years time. Its so frustrating. I hate how much stuff we have in a small house and have to have all this stuff we don't even need at the moment just hanging around. I just thought why couldn't I have had a girl, then he'd have let me get rid of it all.

[Kira]

Thanks Kira! HE saw me crying and he assumed boy. He kept asking so I showed him a little dress that said Daddys girl. ANd he was in shock. BUt he doesnt seem too excited. Before he walked in the basement he said, "Well it llooks like Im going to have to go buy a gun!" Hes a weirdo! I think hes just nervous to have a girl. I am starting to get nervous too. Im so used to boys! ANd Im still in Denial! Im going to schedule a confirmation scan at 25 weeks!

I bet your husband will get more and more excited with each passing day at the realization you're having a girl! She'll have 3 older brothers who will always look out for her in addition to her mommy and daddy! She's so lucky and she'll feel special as the only girl! I have a friend with two boys ages 5 and 3 and a 9mos old girl and they absolutley adore their baby sister. I'm sure it will be the same with your boys and baby girl. The 25 mos scan is a good idea to put your mind at ease but I think a lot of techs don't like to say anything 100% as a rule of thumb - but let yourself get excited about 'her'... I'm sure she's a girl!

[*ruby*]

Mother of boys - I got rid of all my boy stuff when we weren't sure if we'd be having another baby so I can at least buy some cute boy stuff if we're having a boy.

Nachelle - I'm sure DH is just a bit worried about the unknown. He's used to boys and knows what to expect IYKWIM, I felt much the same when I found out DS1 was a boy.

My scan has been bought forward to Monday the 3rd so only 6 days to go. I'm also finally starting to feel baby flutters.

[Navywife620]

I am having a rough day today. A week from today I will know what we are having. I keep at looking at all the families I know who are mixed gender and I am constantly asking will I ever be that lucky? Ever since the ER ultrasound and that radiologist said she thinks this baby may be a boy.I have lost pretty much all hope. I do have my good days where I think it was too early, or maybe she wasn't trained enough and didn't know how to look at it properly. Then I think how could she get that wrong, boy are so obvious.

[aussiettc]

Hi Navywife. I'm just like you-constantly seeing mixed gender families and hoping to be so lucky. Actually its not just mixed gender families, its anyyone with a daughter. I have such a longing. I'm 2 weeks away from finding out and although I'm really impatient and desperate to know, when I was at the shops today I was immediately drawn to the pretty little baby girl dresses and I couldn't help thinking, in 2 weeks time there'll probably be no reason to be looking at these. I tell myself its so silly to stress about it-its already done. This baby will be what it will be. But I am counting down to the scan with equal parts fear and excitement. Hugs to you xx

[motherofboys]

There is a lady due in September told boy at her gender scan, then girl at her 21 week scan. So even fully trained professionals who are specifically looking for gender can make mistakes. I hope you get your girl, October is looking decidedly blue at the moment. It needs pinking up a bit LOL

[Lld2006]

Navy wife, I feel the SAME!!! My ultrasound got moved up today to June 6th and I'm freaking out. Although I know I need the confirmation, I just can't stomach the thought of 100% putting the dream to rest. :(

[xokatietatie]

I'm choosing to embrace this little man. I can't let myself waste time being sad anymore. I was talking to a friend on Monday evening and she said to me "You gotta admit, it's pretty darn cool having all boys. You're surrounded by men who love their mother and would do anything for her." It's so true!!! The more I think about it, the happier I am with the way it all worked out. God gave me a boy for a reason, and that's awesome to think about. I'm not going to question his perfect plan.

[Navywife620]

Ausseittc- I do the same think actually. We were at the mall last weekend and I was constantly looking at everyone who had girls and find myself very jealous. And hoping and praying that I would just have one.

Motherofboys- I saw her story on here. How wonderful for her!!! At time it does make me optimistic but then I think how could I be that lucky.

Lid2006- Wow how lucky you were able to move it up to today! I kind of wish I could move mine up just so I could know once and for all! What time is your scan? I will be thinking of you!

xokatie- I think is great your are embracing him and I know if I find out this one is another boy I will be doing the same. But I wonder if my family would feel complete without a daughter.

[Lld2006]

Navywife, my ultrasound is next week...June 6th at 1030am. I'm really hoping I got all the depression out of the way after my 12 week penis shot...but I think it will still be very hard to hear boy and am positive I will go into another slump for a while. Praying I don't, though.

[wishing for pink]

Hey ladies it's me wannagirl21, for some reason i lost my pass word and couldn't get logged in so I had to get a new email and a new account. congrats t everyone on their healthy babies and good luck to those who have scans comng including my self and getting really nervous but I'm so excited to start preparing for my new bundle of Joy!!!!

[pebmcpd7]

Good luck everyone with our scans!!!!

[ICB3]

Had my anatomy scan today and baby is perfectly healthy. And baby is still a boy;). I am alright with it since I've had time to process. The dr told me that one of his patients delivered today at 18 weeks and baby didn't survive obviously. So sad, and makes you think that you're problems aren't all that bad..

Good luck with all your scans ladies!!

[strawberrymom]

Hey ladies it's me wannagirl21, for some reason i lost my pass word and couldn't get logged in so I had to get a new email and a new account. congrats t everyone on their healthy babies and good luck to those who have scans comng including my self and getting really nervous but I'm so excited to start preparing for my new bundle of Joy!!!!
I was wondering where you went to :bigsmile: . Welcome back! When is your scan- I'll add it to the list.

[strawberrymom]

Had my anatomy scan today and baby is perfectly healthy. And baby is still a boy;). I am alright with it since I've had time to process. The dr told me that one of his patients delivered today at 18 weeks and baby didn't survive obviously. So sad, and makes you think that you're problems aren't all that bad..

Good luck with all your scans ladies!!
Congrats on your healthy bub! What a horrible story for your doc to tell you- how does that come up? I think I worry enough without a doc adding to it.
My scan is tomorrow and first pic since 8 wks. Hopefully still a girl as I took advantage of great memorial day sales :worry:.

[wishing for pink]

I was wondering where you went to :bigsmile: . Welcome back! When is your scan- I'll add it to the list.



hahaha ya I had been lurking still for a while until I couldn't get on it's weird. Mine is really soon I will update once we find out. thx...

[My Three Sons]

Yeah, I don't understand why the doc would tell you about the baby that didn't survive. It just seems like it would make you worry more for no reason.

I am feeling better about this one being a boy, although I am sad i'll never experience the girl, dressing, fixing hair, etc. Of course I could see me having a girl and her being such a tomboy that I'd never get to do those things anyway once she was a bit older. LOL

I guess having 4 boys won't be so bad. Maybe when I start feeling that twinge of sadness I need to go to the mall and seek out some people watching for some spoiled bratty teenage girl that is yelling at her mom that she hates her because she can't buy some trampy outfit. LOL

[ICB3]

Ya it was kind of insensitive to bring that up at my appt today. It actually was the nurse practitioner, not the doctor and she often says weird things. I was telling her I didn't want to come in every two weeks for an u/s to check my cervical length because I worry about all those u/s on the baby. They were checking because I went into preterm labor with DS1 and my cervix was really short. But They stopped labor and I have delivered both my sons full term so I feel they are being overboard about the u/s. She then told me about that lady who was getting cervical checks every two weeks and still went into labor at 18 weeks. Not sure if she was trying to scare me or what...

[strawberrymom]

Had my appt. today and tech agreed with mat21 test- I really am having a girl :celebrate: ! Baby is healthy and measuring on track, but I have a large cyst behind my cervix :worry: . They said to monitor it for now and didn't seem too concerned. Hoping it goes away.

[Kiara]

Had my appt. today and tech agreed with mat21 test- I really am having a girl :celebrate: ! Baby is healthy and measuring on track, but I have a large cyst behind my cervix :worry: . They said to monitor it for now and didn't seem too concerned. Hoping it goes away.

Congratulations!!A cyst often goes away by itself, I have heard its quite common during pregnancy and I know a few people that had cysts and they where all fine after delivery ( I had a few small ones when pregnant with my dd but it was nothing to worry about)

I was thinking , in the hostpital where im going to have my baby they take the baby away for a few hours after delivery for observation. Can that disturb breastfeeding in anyway? I really want to bf and I dont like that they have that policy because I believe that its important to be close to the baby after birth.

[*ruby*]

Why would they take baby away from you? and for a few hours? Where I work it is policy that babies are never to be separated from their mother unless medically necessary eg. only if baby or mum are sick and baby needs to go to the nursery or mum is too unwell to have baby with her (VERY rare). It is a well researched fact that early breast feeding (within 1 hour of birth), immediate skin to skin contact and no separation of mum/baby all improve breast feeding establishment and overall success so I find it very strange that any hospital wouldn't allow it. it is something I would definitely be challenging if I were you.

[*ruby*]

Congrats on your girl strawberrymom!!

[strawberrymom]

Kiara- I agree with what ruby said, but I know it can be hard to fight regulations also. Could you maybe ask them for baby to stay with you for the first hour?

[Pangea]

ICB3 congrats on your healthy baby. Can't believe the nurse said that to you, it was very insensitive.

Congratulations Strawberrymom! I hope the cyst goes away soon.

One week today until my scan. I'm very nervous about it, not about finding out the gender, but just finding out whether the baby is healthy or not. I've heard lots of sad stories lately, there has been a lot in the news here because there is a campaign at the moment to make termination legal for babies who have no chance of life outside the womb, I keep hearing these really sad cases and I'm terrified of my scan now.

[Kiara]

Yes it is really important to have the baby with you the first hours and I was talking to my dr. She said "its only for a few hours" I think its really silly though and I will countinue fighting for that. Im from a country where they leave the baby with you right away but im in my husbands country right now and everything is so different in that area. People hardly breastfeed here either so sometimes I feel weird haha.

[Wanting-a-girl]

where are you living that they do this?!?!?!?! non of my babies have ever been taken at birth!!! that is so sad :( i think something like that would drive me to have a homebirth... and i am quite against homebirths.. but that makes me sad :(

[aussiettc]

Had my appt. today and tech agreed with mat21 test- I really am having a girl :celebrate: ! Baby is healthy and measuring on track, but I have a large cyst behind my cervix :worry: . They said to monitor it for now and didn't seem too concerned. Hoping it goes away.

Congratulations! Now go ahead and enjoy shopping for your pinkie! Really excited for you xx

[pebmcpd7]

ICB3 congrats on your healthy baby. Can't believe the nurse said that to you, it was very insensitive.

Congratulations Strawberrymom! I hope the cyst goes away soon.

One week today until my scan. I'm very nervous about it, not about finding out the gender, but just finding out whether the baby is healthy or not. I've heard lots of sad stories lately, there has been a lot in the news here because there is a campaign at the moment to make termination legal for babies who have no chance of life outside the womb, I keep hearing these really sad cases and I'm terrified of my scan now.

I know every time you switch in the telly here it is on it, along with the crèche crisis, scare the life out of you....

[wishing for pink]

Hey ladies it's me wannagirl21 , but now have a different name cuz I had to get a new account, well I had my anatomy scan today and shockingly we are having a GIRL!!!!!!! I can't believe it I cried cuz I was so shocked and happy. I made the tech show me twice on the screen and also give me a pick for my sake lol....... she is all girl we are way excited and she is healthy and everything looks great so there is my update and my journey is sadly kind of over but now I can't wait to mee t my sweet baby girl.

[strawberrymom]

Congratulations! I too made the tech check twice :bigsmile:

[True Blue]

Well we had our scan and we are having a beautiful little GIRL :)

No sadness at all, very happy and excited to meet our newest daughter.

[strawberrymom]

Congratulations true blue!

[Kiara]

where are you living that they do this?!?!?!?! non of my babies have ever been taken at birth!!! that is so sad :( i think something like that would drive me to have a homebirth... and i am quite against homebirths.. but that makes me sad :(

I dont think they take the baby right away , I mean they let you hold it first and then they measure and so on. I have to ask good but my husband is not happy with the idea either ( he also thinks its important to be together, breastfeed and we also co sleep with our daughter still so it feels good that he is on my side)
When I see birth programs from usa on tv they often show a lot of babies lying in one room without their parents and I think they said its for observation. It is like that in USA?

Congratulations true blue and wishing for pink!!! I have an appointment on monday, im curious to see if it is still a boy :D

[Pangea]

Huge congratulations Wannagirl!

Congratulations Trueblue, it's great that you feel no sadness, I hope I feel the same if I hear boy next week.

[pebmcpd7]

Huge congratulations Wannagirl!

Congratulations Trueblue, it's great that you feel no sadness, I hope I feel the same if I hear boy next week.

Hope you hear girl Pangea!!!

[My Three Sons]

I dont think they take the baby right away , I mean they let you hold it first and then they measure and so on. I have to ask good but my husband is not happy with the idea either ( he also thinks its important to be together, breastfeed and we also co sleep with our daughter still so it feels good that he is on my side)
When I see birth programs from usa on tv they often show a lot of babies lying in one room without their parents and I think they said its for observation. It is like that in USA?

Congratulations true blue and wishing for pink!!! I have an appointment on monday, im curious to see if it is still a boy :D

I think it depends on the hospital. In ours, the baby stays with you. They don't even give them a bath for a few hours so you can nurse and bond. They have the nursery available so if you want them to take the baby so you can get some rest or shower, they will. I tend to keep the baby with me the majority of the time, but then at night I'll ask them to take him for a few hours so I can get a little sleep, then bring him back when it's time to eat.

[ELP]

Congratulations wannagirl and true blue on your little ladies:)

[ELP]

went through the thread and think I found the right dates of everyone still to find out scans. I couldn't find kira, wannagirl21, or issima and let me know if I got anyone wrong.
Trueblue- June 1
Pangea- June 7
Jamieshalon- June 10
*ruby*- June 3
Navywife620- June 4
Lld2006- June 6
ELP- June 3
Aussiettc- June 12
Also lolainlove and mine to confirm are mat21 test results are coming up- May 30 for me and June 5 for lola. Looking forward to the next couple weeks:celebrate:!

Just checking the list as I knew I wasnt alone on Monday! Good luck Ruby:) I am in at 11am I think? UK time so will update if I cave and ask!!:)

[Navywife620]

Congratulations true blue and wannagirl on your girls! Finally pink is starting to make a little come back!

[Kiara]

I think it depends on the hospital. In ours, the baby stays with you. They don't even give them a bath for a few hours so you can nurse and bond. They have the nursery available so if you want them to take the baby so you can get some rest or shower, they will. I tend to keep the baby with me the majority of the time, but then at night I'll ask them to take him for a few hours so I can get a little sleep, then bring him back when it's time to eat.

Yes they didnt give my dd a bath either:) They said its also better for the baby to not have a bath right away because of protection of the skin or something like that:) They took my dd too for a little while in the (first) night because I asked for it (she didnt want to sleep and I had been up for like 48 hours ) We talked to an other hospital today that seems good so maybe ill give birth there :)

[motherofboys]

Congratulations true blue.
My next scan is June 13th.
I'm happy with 4 boys now and actually really finding the idea of a 5th boy in the future very appealing. Not sure if its a coping mechanism for the future or what but I actually feel now that I prefer boys LOL I feel like I just let myself get carried away at the beginning of this pregnancy with the dreams of a girl, I never swayed and before falling pregnant was fine either way. Now I'm actually hoping they wasn't wrong when I go to my scan and he is still a boy!

[motherofboys]

Thought I'd share my 20 week bump. I was 20 weeks on Thursday and this was taken today (Sunday)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d83/kayleighwhitehead/Snapbucket/8777ba93-orig_zps866a2e88.jpg (http://s33.photobucket.com/user/kayleighwhitehead/media/Snapbucket/8777ba93-orig_zps866a2e88.jpg.html)

[wishing for pink]

Thanks ladies as I'm still pretty shocked about it but I am way excited about a little Girl I'm just glad to hear all the babies are healthy babies and no complications.

[xokatietatie]

In 12 hours I'll be at my ultrasound. I'm taking DS1 with me and I think he's going to love it.

[ELP]

Enjoy today Katie and Ruby!!!!!!

[*ruby*]

I had my scan and ended up taking my 7 year old DS1 because he was hone sick from school. Everything went well and baby looks perfectly healthy but we didn't find out gender. DH really doesn't want to know so we didn't ask. I did get a quick look when they measured the legs at the very start and I thought it looked girly but couldn't get a proper look. I thought I'd just study the DVD when we got home but that part was missing off the recording :-/

So i still don't know. In some ways not knowing it's a bit of a relief though.

Katie good luck at your scan, I hope DS enjoys it. My DS looked pretty concerned the whole way through but I think he was just a bit worried about the baby.

Good luck ELP, will you be finding out gender?

[ELP]

Im gonna see if I can see:) I think?? lol. I'm sure its a boy??? But would be gutted to get a pink or inconclusive guess from the tech! So I still dont know:bigsmile: Ive kept my eldest DD14, off of school to come along as she was furious we are having a new one so maybe this will chill her a bit:)

Leaving in 1 hr!!

[ELP]

Back from scan and its a boy!! I let my eldest decide if we'd find out and she said yes and we have got baby Dave a little friend:bigsmile: I have not haf 2 boys close in age, the nearest is neatly a 3 yr gap so Im excited to have to toddler blues to raise together. This does also meen that I will probably keep going as the boys are on a roll but thats a journey for another day lol:bigsmile:

[Lld2006]

Congrats on healthy babies! ELP so happy you hot your DG! How many children do you have? Ruby, you are strong!!! :)

I've been very down in the dumps the past week. It's awful. I'm not sure if its because my ultrasound is this week or what. DH asked me last night if maybe we shouldn't find out, but I think that wouldn't be good for me. I didn't find out w DS2 and could not attach with him when he was born for quite a while. That was brutal. I just don't know how I am going to get through this. :(

[ELP]

Lld this LO will be no10 for us:oops: Balancing things out, to 5 of each:) I was sure when I had my 1st that that was it! Silly me:)
Would you be able to keep it a secret from DH if you secretly found out??

[Navywife620]

Congratulations ELP!! Ruby you are so strong for not finding out. Maybe post the video on here to see if any of us see anything!

[ELP]

Thankyou Navywife:)
Lld, I've just had a look at yout nt scan and I dont think there is a full nub there for guessing off, and your potty shot is either extremely boy or cord! If that is cord then if you take it away the area is very bumpless:) I think you should try and convince DH to find out for you. Especially if you know he wont have any dg, then it would be better for you and bump to bond easier this time maybe:agree:

[xokatietatie]

Duncan is still definitely Duncan!! And guess what?? I'm okay with it. I was so happy and just enjoyed the whole scan. He's measuring a few days ahead still and is above average in size. I still have not gained any weight, but the doctor isn't concerned. She said if the baby was small she might be worried, but he's nice and big and has a very strong heart beat.

[ELP]

Thats great news Katie:) I just realised you have sons A, B, C & now D :bigsmile: Your gonna have to have an E name next time, Evelyn or Evan I reckon!!

[xokatietatie]

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[xokatietatie]

Thats great news Katie:) I just realised you have sons A, B, C & now D :bigsmile: Your gonna have to have an E name next time, Evelyn or Evan I reckon!!

Out of order, but yes! A B C D haha

DH says NO MORE, so no baby E!

[Pangea]

Congratulations on hearing boy ELP!

Ruby and Katie, glad the scans went well and babies are healthy!

Lots of scans coming up this week, hope they all go well for everyone.

[Kiara]

Congratulations to you all!
I went to my appointment today and he is all boy haha. That was the first thing we could see when she turned on the machine:D

[strawberrymom]

Congrats to everyone and their wonderful little babes. And best of luck tomorrow navywife.
So I started this diet to hopefully shrink my cyst and actually am finding it mostly ok so far. I am missing pizza and chocolate terribly though and not having fun having to cook everything, but the other options of not doing this, make it doable. Hey, anything seems better than le to me :wink: .

[*ruby*]

Congrats on your boy ELP

Navywife I don't think I'm strong for not finding out, just scared to hear what I don't want to hear

Katie your baby is so cute, did DS enjoy the scan?

[Navywife620]

Its a boy

[ELP]

Congratulations on your little man Navywife, sorry it wasn't a lady for you xxxxx

[Navywife620]

Thanks! I am actually feeling much better than I thought I would. My wonderful husband is so sweet and even said we can try again. Right now I am Done! But it feels good we can see what our future holds since we both are still young! I took the boys to target and we bought him a few things since I am pretty much having to start all over since this baby will be born in a different season. I am pretty much sure we are going with the name Ryder.. Now just to figure out a middle name!

[cvd]

Thanks! I am actually feeling much better than I thought I would. My wonderful husband is so sweet and even said we can try again. Right now I am Done! But it feels good we can see what our future holds since we both are still young! I took the boys to target and we bought him a few things since I am pretty much having to start all over since this baby will be born in a different season. I am pretty much sure we are going with the name Ryder.. Now just to figure out a middle name!

Congrats navywife! Sorry you didn't hear pink, I must say - love the name Ryder hehe ;)

[Wanting-a-girl]

my nephews name is Ryder Landon

congrats on your little man

[Pangea]

Congratulations on your little boy Navywife.

[Navywife620]

Congrats navywife! Sorry you didn't hear pink, I must say - love the name Ryder hehe ;)

What is your son's middle name? we are having trouble with a middle name that flows.

[cvd]

What is your son's middle name? we are having trouble with a middle name that flows.

Well it won't be much help but his is actually Valentine lol! I know it seems kinda silly, thank goodness we don't use middle names often! But Valentine is my maiden name - there's NOO way I could just let it go, loved my last name & hyphenating was too long. So we agreed to have it as his middle :) I'm not quite sure what we would have chosen otherwise - Valentine was the middle regardless of sex or the first name we picked. I hope you find something, we get lots of compliments on "Ryder"!

[motherofboys]

congratulations navywife and elp on your boys.
Katie glad to hear you were happy with your scan and enjoyed seeing your little man again. Got a week today till my next one!

[strawberrymom]

We are desperate for boy names. We like Madden and Cooper but aren't sold 100% on either. Any unique suggestions?
I tend to think of these as surnames that have become first names also, so I found these list with that in mind Surname Baby Names - List | Nameberry.com (http://nameberry.com/list/358/Surname-Baby-Names?all=1) and 40 Last Names As First Names | Disney Baby (http://www.disneybaby.com/blog/40-last-names-as-first-names/#slide1) . I like a lot of these but Sullivan tops my list.

[xokatietatie]

I tend to think of these as surnames that have become first names also, so I found these list with that in mind Surname Baby Names - List | Nameberry.com (http://nameberry.com/list/358/Surname-Baby-Names?all=1) and 40 Last Names As First Names | Disney Baby (http://www.disneybaby.com/blog/40-last-names-as-first-names/#slide1) . I like a lot of these but Sullivan tops my list.

I saw Duncan on the second list!!

[aussiettc]

Congratulations Navywife. A beautiful little baby boy on the way-well done you!

[Navywife620]

Thanks! I am definitely feeling more sad today. I feel like there will be an emptiness in my heart forever if I never have a daughter. It sometimes seems unfair. So many people I know in real life get girls and boys and make it look so easy!

[strawberrymom]

When I see birth programs from usa on tv they often show a lot of babies lying in one room without their parents and I think they said its for observation. It is like that in USA?

Not at all like that here. All 4 local hospitals have you deliver in a birthing room and then after you and baby are moved to a private room where DH is allowed to stay over. I Some even have natural birthing suites where you deliver and stay in room with private facilities (mine even has room service, and beds are queen size and adjustable!). All checkups are done in room. Hoping I can deliver there again. If you have a section, then baby is taken away for a bit to check vitals, but partner can go with.

[pebmcpd7]

Everyone that swayed girl, how many of you did exercise??? It is now thought that doing exercise is more beneficial when swaying for a girl, than doing none. Of course I didn't do any exercise!!!
With so few of us getting our DG this month I was just wondering how many did do exercise.
If I ever try again I will def do the exercise...

[Lld2006]

I exercised. Cardio a couple times a week. I'm convinced I should have just gone simple and tried shettles. �� When did you all dtd? I think asynchronous as I don't want to believe in shettles, that it is prob true.

[My Three Sons]

Shettles never panned out for me...
PH did nothing this time either.

[Navywife620]

Well I wouldn't even call my sway a sway.. this baby was a shock BFP as I didn't think I was ovulating for another 5 days, well i ovulated 4 days earlier even on vitex. Only on the LE diet for about 3 and half weeks. He did pull out but still some obviously made it. I had 1 day cut off, and no exercise for me.

DH came home with roses for me today with tears in his eyes saying "sorry I can't give you a girl". Of course I started crying, we have decided we are going to do a REAL sway and give it one more shot. I am going to do start the diet as much as I can when this baby is 6 months old. I will be BFing so I know that sways girl. I think I am going to add some lime douche this time, I am going to try a couple of extreme attempts.

[Navywife620]

Everyone that swayed girl, how many of you did exercise??? It is now thought that doing exercise is more beneficial when swaying for a girl, than doing none. Of course I didn't do any exercise!!!
With so few of us getting our DG this month I was just wondering how many did do exercise.
If I ever try again I will def do the exercise...

Next time I will be running and cardio only. No weights. I was a running junkie before we tried for this one. I kick myself for stopping because then they said no exercise was better unless you could do it 6+ days a week for an hour or more.

[ICB3]

I didn't exercise at all. But when my last two boys were conceived I did a ton of cardio--marathons and everything. So who knows.. My sister-in-law is an insane exerciser and she has two boys too. Plus she had/s eating disorders on top of it, which I thought sways girl. All this swaying stuff--who knows? We DTD night before ov, with acijel and rephresh and I was on the diet for 13 or more weeks. Guess I gotta go HT if I ever want a girl!

[Navywife620]

Who here who didn't get their desired gender will be trying again? I am just curious!

[Lld2006]

Navy wife I did lime douche & line tampon and appeared to have failed for me. I will find out for sure tomorrow. I'm a mess with anxiety but my mom came into town for extra support...will be going with both her and DH. Will of course update you all when I can. Pray for me, please, that I accept this news well.

Strawberry mom I forgot to respond to your name suggestion. Sullivan us SO cute but we have a very long, polish last bane do night be too much of a mouthful, lol. ;)

ELP thx for looking at my ultrasounds again. I pray daily it was the cord but just think that is too much wishful thinking. I looked at it again today and wondered if it was taken looking down on the lap, instead if underneath. If so it would be pointing down, not up. But again, wishful thinking.

[Navywife620]

Lld2006 wishing you the best of luck tomorrow! !!! What time is your scan?

[Lld2006]

Thank you. :) 10:30 Dying of anxiety.
Congrats on your healthy boy. Thinking of you as we both go through this!

[*ruby*]

Congratulations on your little boy Navywife, your husband sounds lovely and even if you decide against trying for another baby at least the door isn't closed yet. I like your choice of Ryder and I think lots of middle names would go with it. What about:

Ryder James
Ryder Daniel
Ryder Joshua
Ryder Jacob

[*ruby*]

I won't be trying again if we don't get our DG, 3 kids is my limit boy or girl.

Good luck at your scan Lld2006

[Pangea]

Good luck Lld2006.

Ruby I'm the same, won't be going again regardless of whether it's a boy or a girl.

When did the exercise advice change? I completely missed that. I didn't change my exercise habits when TTC, I never set out purposely to do exercise but I walk everywhere because we don't have a car. So I would have done gentle exercise every day. I was doing the same when TTC my two boys so I doubt it sways for me.

My scan is tomorrow. Part of me can't wait and part of me is dreading it.

[lime]

Congratulations to all those who had their scans with healthy babies! Good luck to those with scans coming up as well.

[aussiettc]

Who here who didn't get their desired gender will be trying again? I am just curious!

I'm still 6 agonising days away from my scan but my husband and I are pretty sure that if we don't get a little lady this time, then we'll save as hard as we can and go HT for no 3. Three children is my absolute limit for our family for many reasons. The biggest one (and why I am so desperately hoping that this one is a little girl) is that I had a really traumatic birth with DS1 and almost died after delivery. This pregnancy has been very hard as I've been really anxious and have HUGE anxiety about going through labour again. If this little one is a little lady, then we'll definitely stop here.

But if its not, and I get through this labour okay (God willing!), I've managed to convince my husband that the costs of going HT would be better than the costs of raising 4/5/6 boys if we kept trying to get a little girl. I just know in my heart that I will always feel a longing for a little girl and I don't think I'll feel complete until I have my pinkie. Given my body probably won't stand up to having 4/5/6 kids, he's on side! If I'd had a better birth experience last time, maybe he wouldn't be given the huge cost of HT but we simply don't have the option to keep having more babies.

Hoping and praying this is a girl so this will be my last baby and I never have to worry about my health in pregnancy and birth ever again xx

[aussiettc]

Lld2006 Thinking of you today. Will be back stalking later to hear your news! xx

[Navywife620]

There is no way we could afford HT, that is a lot of money to pay upfront and there is no guarantee you will even get pregnant. I have a friend who saw I was pregnant with boy # 3 and messaged me on facebook. she gave me some tips that worked for her to get 3 girls every time. She had her husband go in a dish, they put lime juice with the sperm until the pH went down to a 3 and then she inserted it all back in her and she actually got pregnant and has 3 girls to show for it after boys. I plan on doing that with the diet for a minimum for 3 months, plus breastfeeding and I will have the mini pill which sways girl.

I always said 3 was my limit, now that I still don't have my daughter I am giving it one more shot. I told my husband this time no messing around and no unprotected sex even if I don't think I am ovulating for another 5 days!

[Lld2006]

It's a boy.

[Navywife620]

So sorry Lld2006. I can totally relate how you feel. We have a lot in common both of our other boys are born in the same years and now we both are having our 3rd boy. You can private message me if you want to talk!

[Kiara]

Not at all like that here. All 4 local hospitals have you deliver in a birthing room and then after you and baby are moved to a private room where DH is allowed to stay over. I Some even have natural birthing suites where you deliver and stay in room with private facilities (mine even has room service, and beds are queen size and adjustable!). All checkups are done in room. Hoping I can deliver there again. If you have a section, then baby is taken away for a bit to check vitals, but partner can go with.

Sounds nice! Husband can stay here too (its going to be a private hospital) We talked to an other hospital and they said it depends on the doctor if they take the baby for observation or not. So im gonna talk more with my doctor. When they take the baby away for measuring and those things the father can go too.I dont understand why they would need to have them for observation unless something is wrong with the baby.

[Kiara]

It's a boy.

Im sorry you didnt hear what you wanted, but congratulations on your boy! Its so cool with many boys:-)

[aussiettc]

It's a boy.

Congratulations on your darling son. I'm really sad that you didn't hear pink but he will no doubt be a beautiful little lad and give you and his brothers so much joy. Hope you feel more okay soon xx

[aussiettc]

went through the thread and think I found the right dates of everyone still to find out scans. I couldn't find kira, wannagirl21, or issima and let me know if I got anyone wrong.
Trueblue- June 1
Pangea- June 7
Jamieshalon- June 10
*ruby*- June 3
Navywife620- June 4
Lld2006- June 6
ELP- June 3
Aussiettc- June 12
Also lolainlove and mine to confirm are mat21 test results are coming up- May 30 for me and June 5 for lola. Looking forward to the next couple weeks:celebrate:!

Pangea, best of luck tomorrow. Will be thinking of you!

[Pangea]

Lld2006 congratulations on your little boy. I hope you're feeling ok.

Thanks Aussiettc. I feel really nervous, much more nervous than I was expecting. I have an exam coming up next week that I've been revising for and between that and the scan I'm feeling really stressed this evening.

[Lld2006]

Thx girls. It has been such a busy day...my mom was here for the ultrasound & my nieces and nephews are in town tonight....that I haven't had a lot of time to let it soak in. I think seeing the penis at 12 weeks really was the hardest....today was merely confirmation to me. But boy was it still SO HARD. I asked her to wait until the very end so I could just enjoy it first. Baby gave a "thumbs up" almost first thing...it was adorable. Do st the end when she checked...I saw the penis right away...which she confirmed. Oh the tears! It was awful. Cried outside in between my appts for 25 minutes turnoff and on throughout the afternoon. Once it gets quiet I am afraid it will hit me again. I immediately told DH we have to go HT. he is adamantly against "going against nature" so I might have a difficult road ahead of me. I just can't try swaying again...I want a girl, not just a 4th baby. Guess I better start saving money now. What is it, around $15K?

Now onto names I guess. Boys bunk beds are arriving tomo so I will concentrate on that, then begin the nursery. Changing it all up as I can't look at the same decorations for this third boy. For names, I like Cooper, but DH is not a fan. I like Madden a lot, too, but worried it could be confused as a girls name?

Fir those of you who are having your third, fourth, etc of the same gender, are you keeping it a secret or telling friends the gender? I thought I was 100% NOT telling, but I'm starting to rethink??? Suggestions? Experiences?

[motherofboys]

I will hopefully be having 1 more. We did plan on 5 anyway, then DH started saying maybe 4 was enough. But he still mentions "next time" and so I'm taking that as a glimmer of hope and working on it.
I was planning to sway but I'm not sure now.
I didn't sway this time, but I had some 'accidental' sway going on. Like I was still breastfeeding. I was getting a little down about not being pregnant after 2 and half years and hadn't been eating well. Also read about PH after falling pregnant and 'think' I may have had a 'girl' PH due to ending up with thrush about a day after we DTD which must have been the time we conceived.
I wasn't exercising.
This time we DTD the day before O (although I had irregular cycles and usually O'd from day 21 or later, that month I ended up O'ing a few days earlier)
With my others I DTD the day of O, for DS1 and DS2. and 3 days before O for DS3.

But other than those few accidental changes my whole life is usually a boy sway.
I was undecided on swaying next time. I thought it would probably get my hopes up more and cause me more upset when I got another boy. But then I worried I would feel I hadn't tried hard enough to get a girl.
Now though I'm not sure I would want to sway, because I quite like the idea (atm) of all boys. I have a name for another boy already and seeing so many pluses to a 5th boy and have become fiercely protective over having 4 boys. I hate the thought that people would think I just kept going till I got a girl. So for now I'm hoping DH agrees to one more and we get a boy.
Its strange because if I got a girl it would be nice and looking at girls clothes I still would like to buy them, but I no longer feel that a girl is whats missing from my life or that a daughter would complete me or my family.
Next time I actually get pregnant though it could be a whole different story LOL

Just had to share these for anyone in the UK who likes these bands. They are from Asda £4 each

11672

[strawberrymom]

Everyone that swayed girl, how many of you did exercise??? It is now thought that doing exercise is more beneficial when swaying for a girl, than doing none. Of course I didn't do any exercise!!!
With so few of us getting our DG this month I was just wondering how many did do exercise.
If I ever try again I will def do the exercise...
I did exercise but not quite as recommended. The point is to lose muscle so it is recommended to do 60 min 6x a week. Normal cardio at shorter length can build muscle (and raise testosterone) as well as losing weight. For me, I knew that I was at maximum muscle mass before I started and the only exercise I did prior was muscle building, and never cardio. So I knew that for me any cardio would burn fat/muscle and that I could not add muscle. I did 30 min most days although a few it was more like 15. Unless you know you are at optimum muscle mass, I don't think the lesser amount that I did would work. I knew I was on the right track as I lost all my muscles (sad at the time, but have been easier than thought to build it back up). Here is a link to my sway http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway/28201-strawberrymoms-successful-girl-sway.html . The one thing that now appears to have success that I didn't know at the time was adding fiber,so that is the only other thing I might have tried. Also, I was upset at not getting a bfp sooner as I hated diet, but glad it took longer as I think 90 days is optimum as it takes an egg that long to mature.
I think it would help everyone out if everyone entered in their results in the sway poll http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/25157-complete-pink-swaying-statistics-spreadsheet.html . I think as more people enter their info successful and not it helps to make it clearer what does have an effect and doesn't. As time goes on I think that there is better picture of what works, and hope that by the time those who want to go for another are ready, there will be clearer options.
For me, I think 4 kids is a nice even # (before I never wanted more than 2, but they steal your heart) but time is not on my side with that so we will be done at 3. I have to admit that I am a little sad at not being able to be known as a (exclusive) boy mom anymore as there is something special about that. I am not giving her back though!

[aussiettc]

Stalking Pangea! Can't wait for your news xx

[Pangea]

I'm in shock! It's a girl!!! I had a dream two nights ago that I had my scan and I could see the three lines really clearly, and it happened exactly like my dream!

[aussiettc]

Oh my gosh! Congratulations Pangea!!! Thrilled for you xx

[atomic sagebrush]

I had the weirdest feeling you were having a girl, Pangea!! I read a post from you the other day and just "knew" it in my gut. Huge congrats!!!

[xokatietatie]

I'm in shock! It's a girl!!! I had a dream two nights ago that I had my scan and I could see the three lines really clearly, and it happened exactly like my dream!

Congrats

[strawberrymom]

Congrats Pangea!

[Pangea]

Thanks girls! I'm stuck for names now, I had a boys name picked but I have no girls names!

[Lld2006]

Congrats Pangea! Filled with jealousy, of course. ;) now share those boys names so us with boys can see if we like! Lol!

Still curious about input on whether I should go public with the third boy news or just tell people we didn't find out...thoughts anyone?? Experiences??

[Kira]

I'm in shock! It's a girl!!! I had a dream two nights ago that I had my scan and I could see the three lines really clearly, and it happened exactly like my dream!

How exciting! I'm so happy for you!

[Kira]

I stepped away from this site for awhile… I knew with some certainty after the myriad of blood tests (Harmony, Nuchal, Quad Screen) that our baby is healthy which is such a relief. However, I was still anxious for the few weeks prior to my anatomy scan because I have always dreamed of having a baby girl. I knew my husband was adamant this would be our last child and I am turning 40 this August so this was it for us. My husband felt a 90% feeling that this was a girl and I had a gut feeling this time that it was a girl, but I kept doubting myself as I knew it could just be wishful thinking especially as my scan date got closer… (then I felt a nervous but positive feeling again the day of the scan – yesterday, June 6th, when I turned 20 weeks exactly). I asked the tech to let us guess before she told us (as with my son it was so obvious!). After our guesses, she quickly agreed with absolute certainty.

I burst into happy tears on the table immediately… I am walking on cloud right now… We’re having a healthy baby girl!!! I’m still in a state of shock.

[pebmcpd7]

HUGE CONGRATS PANGEA AND KIRA!!!!!! XXX

[*ruby*]

Yay Congratulations Pangea & Kira!

Lld2006 - I wasn't going to tell anyone if we found out the gender and it was a boy so I could avoid the negative comments. But then I suppose you'll still have the 'oh i hope it's a girl' comments to deal with. So I don't know but think I'd like to deal with it on my own before telling people.

[aussiettc]

I stepped away from this site for awhile… I knew with some certainty after the myriad of blood tests (Harmony, Nuchal, Quad Screen) that our baby is healthy which is such a relief. However, I was still anxious for the few weeks prior to my anatomy scan because I have always dreamed of having a baby girl. I knew my husband was adamant this would be our last child and I am turning 40 this August so this was it for us. My husband felt a 90% feeling that this was a girl and I had a gut feeling this time that it was a girl, but I kept doubting myself as I knew it could just be wishful thinking especially as my scan date got closer… (then I felt a nervous but positive feeling again the day of the scan – yesterday, June 6th, when I turned 20 weeks exactly). I asked the tech to let us guess before she told us (as with my son it was so obvious!). After our guesses, she quickly agreed with absolute certainty.

I burst into happy tears on the table immediately… I am walking on cloud right now… We’re having a healthy baby girl!!! I’m still in a state of shock.

CONGRATS!!!! Really happy for your dream come true!

[motherofboys]

Congratulations on the girls!
I told because I didn't want the guessing, most people were pretty nice about it and I have only had one person say out right what a shame it was (which seeing as that person told us that we shouldn't have any more because we might get a girl and girls are horrible was a bit odd) I've had a couple of sympathetic noises as well but mostly had people saying how lovely it is to have all boys and how lucky I am.

[Lld2006]

Congratulations on the girls!
I told because I didn't want the guessing, most people were pretty nice about it and I have only had one person say out right what a shame it was (which seeing as that person told us that we shouldn't have any more because we might get a girl and girls are horrible was a bit odd) I've had a couple of sympathetic noises as well but mostly had people saying how lovely it is to have all boys and how lucky I am.

That is good to hear, thx got the input. I told my sister and dad with a text...to avoid the comments. So that was easy. I had to tell my SIL and nieces face to face as they were in town visiting. It went fine. She wasn't "excited" but wasn't negative. That's all I've told....family. Still can't pull the trigger on my friends so I think like Ruby said, ill deal with it on my own for a while and then tell if and when I'm ready.

We has a rough night last night. Got bunk beds for my two boys. My almost three year old is still in his crib, and will be until the end of the summer, but thought we would get early for my almost 5 year old to get used to it. Naps went fine, but he cried and cried and cried at bedtime that he was too scared and wants his old bed back. I broke down WITH him and was bawling after almost two hours of being calm trying to help him fall asleep. It broke my heart and made me so angry I'm having a third and rushing him to grow up. WHAT DO I DO? I feel guilty and am having angry feelings towards being pregnant (having a boy pry doesn't help, but wonder if I'd feel the same guilt with a girl). I wanted him to get used to the top bunk so we don't have an issue at the end of the summer moving DS2 in with him, but looks like we might just have to keep him on the bottom for now. I'm so sad for so many reasons! Any of you been through this at all?

[motherofboys]

I did have times when things were hard where I thought 'did I do the right thing to get pregnant again' and I thought 'if only I were having a girl it would make it worth it' but I think even if I had a girl I'd feel guilty like I had been selfish and rushed them to grow up because I wanted my own way and to get a daughter. So I'm sure that either way there would have been some guilt. Being pregnant can be hard and its tiring and makes you emotional. I do sometimes feel a little guilty, DS3 is used to being the baby and I worry how he will adjust to a new baby, his such a Mummies boy. DS1 I worry he will get pushed out. DS2 is a Daddies boy and is hard work so takes a lot of DHs attention. I'm just going to have to make an extra special effort to insure DS1 doesn't get over looked because he is so independent.
I remember trying to get DS1 into a bed before DS2 came so I'd have the cot free when he needed it. DS1 was not having any of it so we had to leave it until DS2 was here and out growing his moses and then we told DS1 that if he went into the bed the DS2 could share his room in the cot.

Also when you do come to telling everyone that your having another boy, if its not face to face, put a little 'happy face' smiley at the end of the message, or if face to face put on a smile. Hopefully by the time you are ready to tell you wont have to force it.

[Pangea]

Congratulations Kira!

[wishing for pink]

Thanks girls! I'm stuck for names now, I had a boys name picked but I have no girls names!


thats crazy we sound alot alike I had a dream as well that the tech said it's a Girl. and we are having a girl as well and no names at all.

[wishing for pink]

I stepped away from this site for awhile… I knew with some certainty after the myriad of blood tests (Harmony, Nuchal, Quad Screen) that our baby is healthy which is such a relief. However, I was still anxious for the few weeks prior to my anatomy scan because I have always dreamed of having a baby girl. I knew my husband was adamant this would be our last child and I am turning 40 this August so this was it for us. My husband felt a 90% feeling that this was a girl and I had a gut feeling this time that it was a girl, but I kept doubting myself as I knew it could just be wishful thinking especially as my scan date got closer… (then I felt a nervous but positive feeling again the day of the scan – yesterday, June 6th, when I turned 20 weeks exactly). I asked the tech to let us guess before she told us (as with my son it was so obvious!). After our guesses, she quickly agreed with absolute certainty.

I burst into happy tears on the table immediately… I am walking on cloud right now… We’re having a healthy baby girl!!! I’m still in a state of shock.


I was the same way when the tech looked between the legs and said " do you see these three lines?" I immediatly started crying happy tears and made him check twice. lol.... congrats so exciting.

[strawberrymom]

thats crazy we sound alot alike I had a dream as well that the tech said it's a Girl. and we are having a girl as well and no names at all.
I have the opposite problem- I have 11 names and none stand out above the others. Probably won't decide until she is here as that is what we did with ds2 (although we only had 2 with him). My backup name was Desmond for him-still loge it but going unused now.

[xokatietatie]

For all of you worrying about how to tell people you're having another boy -- This is exactly what I posted on Facebook...

"It takes a strong woman to raise four strong men, but God must have felt it was something I could handle. I can't want to meet you, DPC. You're going to steal my heart as soon as I see you, just like your daddy and big brothers did. :-)"

I got nothing but positive comments from people!

[Pangea]

That's a lovely status Katie.

I wasn't going to announce it on Facebook, but I posted a scan pic and someone asked me directly so I answered. Kind of regretting it now as I'm scared the scan might be wrong and then I would have to unannounce it!

I was going to call this baby Felix if she was a boy. I've been thinking about girls names and my favourites so far are Claudia and Zara, but I'm not 100% sure about either.

I'm really starting to worry that the scan was wrong, I think I might book another scan later on to double check!

[Kiara]

For all of you worrying about how to tell people you're having another boy -- This is exactly what I posted on Facebook...

"It takes a strong woman to raise four strong men, but God must have felt it was something I could handle. I can't want to meet you, DPC. You're going to steal my heart as soon as I see you, just like your daddy and big brothers did. :-)"

I got nothing but positive comments from people!

I think that is a good way of telling. If you(in general) dont want bad comments then show yourself positive because then there is really nothing they can say that is negative (not that there is anyhting negative with several kids of same gender but you all know how people can be)

[Kiara]

by the way does "my post" Works for you? for me it doesnt so I have to search for my nickname or look in the forums to find my threads.

[pebmcpd7]

by the way does "my post" Works for you? for me it doesnt so I have to search for my nickname or look in the forums to find my threads.

Working for me!!!

P.S. just looking at my scan pic in my profile and the more I look now it is so boyish. I was deluding myself that it was anything else!!!

[Lld2006]

All good words of advice, thank you so much! I just can't decide whether to "go public." My family was all "congrats" but not very excited if you know what I mean. I know we all hoped girl so I understand and see how they don't react with crazy happy congrats. Maybe that's just what afraid of...that this baby won't be "anything special" since he's a third boy. Breaks my heart. But overall I am doing pretty well...with an exception to the apprehension of telling people. Finding out at 12 weeks probably saved me even more heartache. I'm excited to start the nursery at the end of the summer. :)

Here are some potential names...would love to know what you all think. Cooper, Tate, Rhylan (although I think this may be "feminine" so it is probably out), Madden, Grayson, and I just adore Mason, but it is #5 on the social security list so I think I'd just be setting him up to blend in with that name. I'd love suggestions, too!

One last thing...at my 12 week scan the tech said my placenta is posterior, then at my 20 week they told me it is anterior. WEIRD! I feel the baby a lot so I am shocked it is anterior.

[Kira]

I just want to send a sincere thank you out to all of the moms on this site who congratulated me on my girl and wished me well! It means even more coming from all of you knowing many of you aren't getting the girl you were initially hoping for, and yet you are still so happy for me. You ladies are awesome. :Flower:

[Kira]

All good words of advice, thank you so much! I just can't decide whether to "go public." My family was all "congrats" but not very excited if you know what I mean. I know we all hoped girl so I understand and see how they don't react with crazy happy congrats. Maybe that's just what afraid of...that this baby won't be "anything special" since he's a third boy. Breaks my heart. But overall I am doing pretty well...with an exception to the apprehension of telling people. Finding out at 12 weeks probably saved me even more heartache. I'm excited to start the nursery at the end of the summer. :)

Here are some potential names...would love to know what you all think. Cooper, Tate, Rhylan (although I think this may be "feminine" so it is probably out), Madden, Grayson, and I just adore Mason, but it is #5 on the social security list so I think I'd just be setting him up to blend in with that name. I'd love suggestions, too!

One last thing...at my 12 week scan the tech said my placenta is posterior, then at my 20 week they told me it is anterior. WEIRD! I feel the baby a lot so I am shocked it is anterior.

I think Madden is a beautiful name... If I was having a boy I think I would steal it! :)

[Lld2006]

Oh I like hearing you say that! Do you think it is at all girly or feminine? When I asked DS1 (4 1/2 years old) he said "that 's a girls name!"

[strawberrymom]

Oh I like hearing you say that! Do you think it is at all girly or feminine? When I asked DS1 (4 1/2 years old) he said "that 's a girls name!"
Not girly at all to me. The only reference I can think of is John Madden, the football guy, who is def. Not girly!

[motherofboys]

I don't think it matters too much now days, I know plenty of kids with names which hint that they are the opposite gender and even a girl called Eliot, so just slight change on the spelling of a traditionally boys name.
Especially with the names you have listed there where they are not the more traditional names and could go either way I think its just what you feel happy with.
And no matter which number boy he will still be special. My DS3 is so funny and is so much like his Dad as a child with the things he does that his grabbed himself a special place in DH families heart because he reminds them so much of a little DH.

[aussiettc]

All good words of advice, thank you so much! I just can't decide whether to "go public." My family was all "congrats" but not very excited if you know what I mean. I know we all hoped girl so I understand and see how they don't react with crazy happy congrats. Maybe that's just what afraid of...that this baby won't be "anything special" since he's a third boy. Breaks my heart. But overall I am doing pretty well...with an exception to the apprehension of telling people. Finding out at 12 weeks probably saved me even more heartache. I'm excited to start the nursery at the end of the summer. :)

Here are some potential names...would love to know what you all think. Cooper, Tate, Rhylan (although I think this may be "feminine" so it is probably out), Madden, Grayson, and I just adore Mason, but it is #5 on the social security list so I think I'd just be setting him up to blend in with that name. I'd love suggestions, too!

One last thing...at my 12 week scan the tech said my placenta is posterior, then at my 20 week they told me it is anterior. WEIRD! I feel the baby a lot so I am shocked it is anterior.

I love the name Tate. It's on my short list for a little man but not sure if my husband likes it as much as I do. I also have Xavier, Zachary, Isaac, Vaughn, and Archie on my list. I have tons of names for a little lady but the front runners are Liliana, Isla, Amelia or Sienna. My scan is on Wednesday so the list will be cut in half then! Feeling super nervous about finally knowing-hoping and praying that being the lucky last scan of this group will be lucky and I will hear pink! Fingers and toes crossed!

[Kira]

I don't think it's a girly name, personally. I just looked up Madden... a few moms I saw named their daughters Maddyn with a 'y' but it looks to be traditionally a boys name... I found this: I'm not sure where the soulurge and expression numbers come from but I still thought I'd share this for fun....

Madden

The name Madden is a baby boy name.

Irish Meaning:
The name Madden is an Irish baby name. In Irish the meaning of the name Madden is: Smalldog Milos.

SoulUrge Number: 6
People with this name have a deep inner desire for a stable, loving family or community, and a need to work with others and to be appreciated.

Expression Number: 5
People with this name are excited by change, adventure, and excitement. They are dynamic, visionary and versatile, able to make constructive use of freedom. They fight being restricted by rules and conventions. They tend to be optomistic, energetic, intelligent, and to make friends easily. They may be changeable, restless, untidy, and rebellious.

[Kira]

BTW everyone who guessed boy/girl from my profile pics guessed boy.... I was dismayed by this and it made me doubt my 'gut feeling' that she was a girl even more... but anyone else in this boat...hold out hope and remind yourself that they are just guesses and they could be wrong like in my case. (I still appreciated everyone's honest guesses.... just was bummed to see all boy responses.) When I posted my 13w4d potty shot I got only 2 responses and one mom leaned girl for that, even though the same mom leaned boy for the profile pics... :) even so, I was happy to see at least ONE person say... MAYBE girl.

[xokatietatie]

Not girly at all to me. The only reference I can think of is John Madden, the football guy, who is def. Not girly!

Or Joel and Benji Madden from the band Good Charlotte. (Don't ask me how I know that since I don't listen to them! haha)

[motherofboys]

I thought of them too Katie. I used to listen to them when I was in school and had a boy friend who liked them though they were a bit too 'pop' punk for me, I was more AC/DC and Iron Maiden at the time LOL

[motherofboys]

I just ordered my pram! I had a back payment from Tax Credits and the pram was on offer so I couldn't wait LOL

[strawberrymom]

I just ordered my pram! I had a back payment from Tax Credits and the pram was on offer so I couldn't wait LOL
Oooh, I am super obsessed with strollers (prams)- what kind do you get? What does everyone else have?

[ELP]

I have a really beaten up tandem but it is so sturdy!!! You can have a good 4 children on it at one time and it just soldiers on! I'd dread changing it incase the new one was flimsy in some way lol:)

[xokatietatie]

I went and bought the Britax B-Agile travel system when we found out we were expecting again. I can't wait to use it!

Britax B-Agile Travel System - Black - buybuy BABY (http://www.buybuybaby.com/product.asp?SKU=18880768&)

[motherofboys]

I went for the Chicco Trio Enjoy. I wanted one I could have a carry cot on, I needed a new car seat (both carry cot and car seat come with it) But it needed to umbrella fold to fit in the car. I thought I was going to have to give up on having a carry cot on it but really didn't want to be using a car seat on it all the time and couldn't find one that would face me and umbrella fold. This does everything I wanted except face me when its a pushchair. Plus I have had Chiccos in the past and they have lasted really well.
I have a lovely one still in the loft that I was just going to buy the carry cot to go on but even when folded its too big to fit in the car with all 7 seats up.
I also still have 2 doubles in the loft as DH made me save them 'just in case'!!!

[strawberrymom]

Both Britax and Chicco are great brands- October mommies have great taste! I used Chicco carseats for my boys and wanted their side by side lightweight double (trevi) but they stopped making it here. They don't sell the Trio Enjoy here, so it was fun to look it up. I do own the Mountain Buggy Duet and love it as it is the narrowest side by side and pushes like a dream, but it does take up a lot of space in the trunk and so I would like an umbrella double also. Still great though for the little one and was considering getting the carrycot to go with it. Carrycots are not very commonly used here (everyone drives and uses the carseat) and I was wondering others experiences with them- do babies tend to sleep well in them?

[strawberrymom]

Wondering when your scan is aussie? :fx::DD:

[Pangea]

Good luck Aussie!

I really want a bugaboo bee for this baby, as I want a light weight, parent facing, suitable from birth, folds all in one buggy and it's the only one that ticks all the boxes. I can't afford it though, so I'm hoping I'll be able to find one second hand.

[aussiettc]

Its a boy!

I saw the boy bits during the scan so when she asked at the end whether I wanted to know the sex, it was no surprise to have it confirmed. I'm sad but not as devastated as I thought I'd be. I did have to force the big smile on my face when I went back to work straight after and had to share the news but somehow doing that seemed to help me feel better. Had a little cry when I got home and put away the one girl thing I'd bought. I'm not giving up the pink dream but it looks like I'll have to go HT to get my DG. I did fall in love with my new little man during the scan when I was watching him wave and have a little swallow and put his legs over his head! And I know it will be wonderful for my DS to have a little brother. I'm just glad to know so I have a bit of time to get used to the idea of two little boys xx

[ELP]

They will be amazing together aussie, congratulations!!!!

[motherofboys]

congrats aussiettc. Srry you didn't hear pink but I'm pleased to hear your not giving up and that you don't feel as you expected to.

I've only had one pram with a carry cot on for my first. After that it was doubles and then I had a chicco that just had the car seat on it. However now I do a lot more walking up and down to school a few times a day so wanted the carry cot. DS1 was always fine in the carry cot and slept well in it.

[Lld2006]

Congrats on a healthy boy, Aussie! I'm glad you are handling it well. Believe me when I say I LOVE having two little boys. Mine are 21months apart and the best of friends. (It's now having three that scares me...)

Thx for all the input on my boy names. I can't get my brain off either Cooper or Madden. When you first hear Madden do you think oh cute! or do you think it sounds angry...like mad? ;) totally honest opinions are welcome! I also like Grayson....

[ELP]

Lld Im in the UK and if someone is angry they could be called a mad'n, mad one Hes a bit of a mad'n aint he! So its not a name Ive heard of before. But if youre US and its not similar to slang over there, plus you like it then go for it:) Again Cooper is a car over here lol, what els3 might be on the list??

[motherofboys]

I think of the two I prefer Madden, but its really what you like that counts. I had my first not entirely enthusiastic response to Seth the other day. The person said "oh well thats quite nice I suppose" but I don't care. Everyone else seems to love it and more importantly I do.
Leaving for my scan soon! Excited. Posted on facebook and first reply I got was someone guessing "its a girl" better not be. I know thats what I wanted at first but now I'm happy and don't want to change what I have.
Also had an email to say my prams out for delivery so double checked my SIL will be in (she lives 2 doors away) to take the delivery.

[motherofboys]

Also anyone whos children wanted a certain gender sibling and got the opposite, how are they feeling now? I know it took a while for DS1 to adjust to the idea of DS3 being a boy, but this time they all wanted a brother by the time we found out so we were lucky they were happy. That being said DS2 is full of questions and other than the awkward ones about how you get babies and how they get out (!) He also asked "why did God chose for you to only make boys?"

[xokatietatie]

Also anyone whos children wanted a certain gender sibling and got the opposite, how are they feeling now? I know it took a while for DS1 to adjust to the idea of DS3 being a boy, but this time they all wanted a brother by the time we found out so we were lucky they were happy. That being said DS2 is full of questions and other than the awkward ones about how you get babies and how they get out (!) He also asked "why did God chose for you to only make boys?"

My boys (especially DS2) all adjusted well after they got to help pick out clothes and bedding (and things like that). They're all very excited to meet their little brother now.

[motherofboys]

I'm back. Baby is healthy, estimated at 1lb 1oz at 22 weeks exactly. Being a little monkey, every scan I have or even midwife appointment trying to hear the heart beat, baby causes trouble. This time I almost had to go for a walk just so they could check the nose and lips! Also still a boy. Though I almost never got told. Was asked twice if I wanted to know, got right to the end and he handed me some tissues and said that was it. Then remembered that he forgot one measurement, and then asked if he had told me the gender. They whole time they were measuring legs I never say a clear penis or anything and even when he did check the gender he said "another boy, theres a willy" and I could just see legs and nothing else! But also never saw lines and saw clear enough on my 16 week that he was a boy. Wasn't too impressed with the quality of the scan this time I have to be honest.

[Lld2006]

ELP...so interesting to hear opinions from another country! I'm in the Midwest so I hadn't heard of the Madden connotations you mention. BUT with that being said, something inside has always nagged me thinking it would make people think "mad". Hmmm. Other options? Not a whole lot. Mason is my absolute fave but being as it is #2 on the popularity list in the USA, I just can't do it. I kind of like Grayson, too. Could call him Gray for short. We liked Reid for DS2 but not too hot on it this time around, although it is still on the list. Sawyer was our 2nd choice for DS1, and Chase is one other choice. I feel like this baby might be my Cooper...but there is still plenty of time to keep playing around with options.

Motherofboys...glad your babe is still doing well...sorry the tech was crummy though! Bummer! Did you officially announce on FB that its a boy yet?

[motherofboys]

yeah I did, I actually did after my 16 week scan because it was so obvious on that scan.
Also my placenta is a little on the low side, but not too low atm. Apparently now we get a 32 week scan as standard at my hospital to check growth, so they will check the placenta then.

ELP can I just be nosy and ask what are the ages of your children and how do you get on with each pregnancy? This pregnancy I am so tired, and achy. Much more so that ever before. And I must be seriously unfit, I took DS3 on the train to town, went fathers day shopping and then got the bus back on Monday and was still aching from it on Wednesday. I feel puffed out and have to sit down after the school run and I've not managed to get any extra energy back during second tri when usually, although I wouldn't be full of energy I'd at least be awake more and able to go on shopping trips LOL I just wondered, does it get harder with each? I want one more (although if I had my way I'd just keep going, but the line has had to be drawn LOL) but I do worry about being even more tired and aching even more. Especially as I'm hoping DH wont make me wait 5 years and will give in to a close age gap LOL

[Pangea]

Congratulations on your baby boy Aussie! Having two boys is lovely, having my DS2 was the best thing for my DS1, He has benefited so much from having a brother.

[Kiara]

Good luck Aussie!

I really want a bugaboo bee for this baby, as I want a light weight, parent facing, suitable from birth, folds all in one buggy and it's the only one that ticks all the boxes. I can't afford it though, so I'm hoping I'll be able to find one second hand.

We have a bee and its really good. We dont have the newst model though ( think its 2010) and we got it really cheap on a sale. It is good and I like that it is parent facing. Our dd used is as newborn in the baby nest (even though we use more carriers ) I dont like gigant strollers so this was a good option for us.

[xokatietatie]

DH finally felt Duncan kick the other night! He was very excited about it.

[ELP]

ELP can I just be nosy and ask what are the ages of your children and how do you get on with each pregnancy? This pregnancy I am so tired, and achy. Much more so that ever before. And I must be seriously unfit, I took DS3 on the train to town, went fathers day shopping and then got the bus back on Monday and was still aching from it on Wednesday. I feel puffed out and have to sit down after the school run and I've not managed to get any extra energy back during second tri when usually, although I wouldn't be full of energy I'd at least be awake more and able to go on shopping trips LOL I just wondered, does it get harder with each? I want one more (although if I had my way I'd just keep going, but the line has had to be drawn LOL) but I do worry about being even more tired and aching even more. Especially as I'm hoping DH wont make me wait 5 years and will give in to a close age gap LOL
I have been lucky to have very smooth almost unnoticable pregnancies, I've noticed the lack of breath kicking in of late though:) Im also lucky now as I can send the older kids to the local shops for me so this is an absolute godsend! I used to have to bring them all down there with me, so would have this little train of kids like ducklings following me along lol!
There current ages are??? 14, 12, 10, 9, 8, 6, 4, 3(tomorrow lol), & baby Dave whos 15 months now:)
I kwym about drawing the line, but its so easy once your surrounded by children to just keep going isn't it:), its constant noise, constant mess, constant chaos,constant laughter! so what different would it make if I just sneaked another in;) This is what I tell myself lol, and it seems so foreign to me to think about finishing things for no sensible reason that I havent all ready blown out of the water with the 9/10 ie, space, transport, holidays, so I would almost feel guilty shutting up shop if that makes sense!
I reckon you squeeze another 4 in;) :bigsmile:

[Kira]

Congratulations Aussie! I'm sorry you didn't hear girl, but happy you fell in love with your little man during the scan. I'm sure your boys will be the best of friends. I have a friend with two boys who wouldn't want it any other way. They are best buds and she is so in love with them. She always jokes that she wouldn't trade her boys for all of the girls in China.

[Lld2006]

Oh my ELP!!! Wow! How many boys & girls?

My parents are in town for Father's Day and my mom just told me that my dad said that HE would pay for me todo HT next!!! Eek!!!! I am in total and complete shock. I have been doing pretty well anyway, but WOW does this make me feel better! I wonder what my husband will say when I tell him?!? Or should I not tell him just yet?

[motherofboys]

Thanks ELP, I was really lucky with the others but like I say this time seems harder. The past two days I've had aching hips and back and I'm so tired all the time. We already lack space and bed room space doesn't bother me too much as they spend very little time in their rooms anyway its the space in the rest of the house. All our rooms are the same size and we couldn't possibly fit more seating in the living room or around the dining table. And I do worry about money. Mainly for things like birthdays and school trips and even food with my ever increasing food bill LOL

[motherofboys]

Oh I actually got asked today if I was pregnant and I said yes and they said "are you trying to hide it?" Erm no. What would be the point of announcing it and talking to people every day and letting my sons take a scan picture for show and tell (her son is in my middle sons class and her younger son is in pre-school with my youngest) and then hiding the bump LOL

[strawberrymom]

I'm officially 24 weeks today :cheer: We officially anounced it on facebook. We started the nesting with our crib and put it together already too although baby will be in cosleeper with us for a while. Also have found some great deals at garage sales and e bay. Looking for a deal on the hypnobirthing book as that intrigues me. Trying not to get too carried away with purchases. Last time I organized and prepared like mad and was a huge help when colicky ds2 came along, so trying to do that again. It's hard though because we can't set up her room proper because that is where my brother and his family will be living indefinitely.
Anyone else having heartburn? How is everyone feeling?

[ELP]

Feeling pretty good here:) Still getting terrible bloat and flippin thrush when I eat bread which is daily unfortunately. Im looking forward to when it is just bump and no balloon lol!

[ELP]

Thanks ELP, I was really lucky with the others but like I say this time seems harder. The past two days I've had aching hips and back and I'm so tired all the time. We already lack space and bed room space doesn't bother me too much as they spend very little time in their rooms anyway its the space in the rest of the house. All our rooms are the same size and we couldn't possibly fit more seating in the living room or around the dining table. And I do worry about money. Mainly for things like birthdays and school trips and even food with my ever increasing food bill LOL
Ikwym about the above:) We believe it or not are just in a 3 bed house! 3 boys in 1 room, 3 girls in another and the 3 littlens in with us! We just generally dont have days out, always seem to be running a tab for school dinners and just running to keep up with the bills, BUT!!! I am so optimistic about the future, things will improve I know it! I have been trading on ebay for about 6 months and it is growing:agree: Plus DHs work is flowing nicely atm, I have everything x'ed that we will have the loft converted for them in the next 6 months, the power of positive thinking:bigsmile:

Lld my children are GBBGBGGGB so 5 pinks 4 blues atm, when LO arrives we will be 5 all:) But in the beginning I had just planned an all blue family as I am the worst girl and girl mum ever :rolleyes::) I can now just manage a basic plait and the gilrs fascinate me playing families! I was never like that !!! Which may actually sound strange coming from a woman with nearly 10 children:oops:

[Pangea]

Loads of heartburn and indigestion here. I'm literally drinking gaviscon out of the bottle.

Strawberrymom you are so organised, I'm not very, probably won't buy anything until near the end. My kids don't get their own bedroom until they're 2 so I've got years to sort that out! We've only just moved in to this house so I have enough decorating to do as it is! I've got to buy a moses basket, I'd love to buy a new pram but realistically she'll probably just go in the phil and teds with DS2 so I probably won't bother.

ELP my Dad is one of 12 and my Mum is the youngest of 8, they both grew up in 3 bedroom houses. There was their parents room, the boys room and the girls room.

[motherofboys]

Well we are in a 2 bed and until recently were going to just have all 4 in one room but then decided to split them. I know I shouldn't worry about other people but I really am conscious of being judged. So much so that I'm wondering if I should have a home birth again because after the birth the midwife will want me to get into bed and I'll have to explain that we sleep on a sofa bed. As I say bedroom space isn't too much of an issue in real terms other than worrying what other people think. I could have 8 and have 4 in each room and continue sleeping down stairs. Which probably isn't helping my aching hips and back LOL
How do your kids feel about sharing. Everyone tells me eventually they will want their own space and I do remember my twin brothers wanting their own rooms in their teens.
Like I say its the rest of the house thats a problem. All the rooms (bedrooms and front room and dining room) are all the same size. When they were all in on room there was just 2 sets of bunk beds and a little chest of draws next to DS2s bed.
In our front room we have a corner sofa which takes up most of the room, leaving just a walkway along the back from the front door through to the dining room, a small space to walk round to the front of the chair and rectangle of space in front of it. Because each room has a fire place that limits things even more. There really is no more room for movement in the door stairs rooms. I'd be happy with say a 3 bed with bigger sized rooms.
Due to his health DH had to stop full time work so only works part time self employed (his doctor wanted him to stop work all together and almost took his driving license away but the government deemed him fit for work with out even consulting his doctor) so we do get help with out rent as well as tax credits and child benefit and all the talks of cuts and capping worry me. ATM we don't get anywhere near the cap, but I still worry about what if we had a few more then they decided we were getting too much help and DH should be doing more so they take some of it away. He physically can't do any more than he does now so we'd really struggle. I have considered a little ebay business but I just don't think that theres anything different that I can do that will then bring in any real money.
And I worry about DS1 he has recently decided that DS2 is the favourite and no one likes him. I try so hard to make sure that they all get the same attention and he loves having little brothers, is excited about the baby, but then says that and it really breaks my heart that he thinks that.

[motherofboys]

sorry for the essay and yes heart burn has kicked in big time. plus lots of sches and pains and breathlessness

[Pangea]

Motherofboys I think if I was in a 2 bed with 4 kids I'd put the eldest 3 in one room, then keep the baby in the other room with me. I keep mine in my room until they're about 2, my parents kept my brother in their room until he was 5 because there was no room for him.

All the talk of cuts must be very worrying. I grew up in London and I would really love to move back but the cost of housing just makes it impossible. I was looking into it really seriously a couple of years ago but even if DH managed to get a well paid job we would still have to rely heavily on benefits just to keep a roof over our heads. I don't know how the government expect ordinary people to manage when the cost of living is so high.
It's awful the way they're certifying so many people as fit to work when they clearly aren't. Hopefully the Torys will be out of government in a couple of years.
The government here are cutting everything too, every year child benefit gets cut, and DH's job is in the public sector so his wages have been cut a few times too.

I felt a bit like your DS1 when I was little, I think it's hard being the eldest. I think I felt that the younger ones were able to get away with a lot and too much was expected of me. I realise now that of course my parents would have different expectations re behaviour from children of different ages, but at the time it felt unfair.

[pebmcpd7]

I have 4 bedrooms downstairs and then last year we converted our attic and made an extra 3 bedrooms up there. Everyone has a room to themselves, I have now messed that up by having a 7th, someone is gonna have to share... LOL

[xokatietatie]

We have a tri-level house with four bedrooms. Three of the four are on the top level, and then the fourth is in the lowest level. Because of that we only use the top three as bedrooms. Right now DS1 gets his own room while DS2 and DS3 share, but in October DS1 and DS2 will share a room while DS3 and DS4 share the other. I use the fourth bedroom as an in-home studio for my photography business.

I've been having some bad lower back and hip pain. I blame it on getting down on the ground so much to photograph small children and babies!! Thankfully, I am going on maternity leave on July 1st. I'm looking forward to having the entire summer free. Today is my last day to actually shoot any clients (I love saying that haha), and then this following week will just be editing pictures... and then I'M DONE!

We've bought a ton of stuff for DS4 already -- travel system, swing, bouncer, diaper bag, crib bedding, tons of clothes, and a few other random items. The only big item left to buy is a crib mattress, but I've got other little things I'd like to get as well.

I think that's pretty much it! It's hard to believe I'm 24 weeks today and only 3 weeks away from the THIRD TRIMESTER!! We'll all be welcoming our little ones before we know it.

[pebmcpd7]

I have told people I am pregnant!!! I feel like hiding now for the next 17 weeks, I already have broke down and cried so many times from I told my news!!! DH thinks I have gone mad LOL....
I have already got 2 people ask was it planned or a mistake!!! NOSEY F**KS!!! And I have got 3 people say hope this is your little princess!!! I feel like shit!!! and I know I can't hide away but I hate meeting people now, I actually have my DH collect the kids from school to save me having to talk to people!!!

[Adia]

I have told people I am pregnant!!! I feel like hiding now for the next 17 weeks, I already have broke down and cried so many times from I told my news!!! DH thinks I have gone mad LOL....
I have already got 2 people ask was it planned or a mistake!!! NOSEY F**KS!!! And I have got 3 people say hope this is your little princess!!! I feel like shit!!! and I know I can't hide away but I hate meeting people now, I actually have my DH collect the kids from school to save me having to talk to people!!!

Sorry honey, people are so clueless. I would be the same, just avoiding people so I didn't have to hear the lame a$$ comments.

Wish i could make it better for you.

[xokatietatie]

My husband has worked from home for 15 months now, and I have gotten so spoiled having him at home every single day. Tomorrow, he's starting a new job and will be going back to working in an office. It's an 85 mile commute (that's about an hour and a half long drive to work), but it comes with a very large increase in salary. I am excited because it is a great opportunity for him and it'll be wonderful having the extra money, but I am so heart broken over not having him with me anymore. I feel like my hormones are making it that much harder to deal with too. I've cried so many times!! I know I'm going to probably just cry all day long tomorrow. And we're on summer break right now, so the three boys are all going to be incredibly sad when they wake up and realize Daddy is gone. These hormones are going to be the death of me, I swear! I'm getting upset just typing this right now.

[pebmcpd7]

Awh poor you, take the boys out tomorrow for a play day. And just think at the weekend with the extra money you can all do something extra special!!! Hugs XXX

[My Three Sons]

I think I would go nuts if DH was with me all day!

I have been having tons of heartburn and my back has started to hurt. I use the Miracle Balls for Pregnancy and they really help. There is no hiding this pregnancy and many people mention that I look further than what I am...

[LolaInLove]

Hey everyone, we are getting up there now, huh? I am getting big and starting to not sleep well and feel like a cow, etc. No heartburn yet, but the waddling is slowly starting :p and maybe it's my age (37) but I am TIRED all the time. I got laid off from my job the other week (I had a big corporate job), which is a bummer, so a bit stressed trying to figure out what to do....just wait it out or try to do some freelancing or something. I'm sure I'm not big employment material with this belly. So I've been a SAHM for the last couple weeks and sleeping a lot! Trying to enjoy some nesting and doing stuff around the house.

By the way, ELP, I love your attitude! Always positive....

[ELP]

Lola!:bighug: I wondered where youve been! That is a bummer about the job, how are you financially because of it, ok? The freelance sounds a good idea! You can use the time you have at home now (when your not sleeping;):bigsmile:) to get a little website set up maybe, then when the little fella gets old enough you ca launch it and start doing your own thing! Is your work doable from home or do you need to be in site for it?

[ELP]

Well we are in a 2 bed and until recently were going to just have all 4 in one room but then decided to split them. I know I shouldn't worry about other people but I really am conscious of being judged. So much so that I'm wondering if I should have a home birth again because after the birth the midwife will want me to get into bed and I'll have to explain that we sleep on a sofa bed. As I say bedroom space isn't too much of an issue in real terms other than worrying what other people think. I could have 8 and have 4 in each room and continue sleeping down stairs. Which probably isn't helping my aching hips and back LOL
How do your kids feel about sharing. Everyone tells me eventually they will want their own space and I do remember my twin brothers wanting their own rooms in their teens.
Like I say its the rest of the house thats a problem. All the rooms (bedrooms and front room and dining room) are all the same size. When they were all in on room there was just 2 sets of bunk beds and a little chest of draws next to DS2s bed.
In our front room we have a corner sofa which takes up most of the room, leaving just a walkway along the back from the front door through to the dining room, a small space to walk round to the front of the chair and rectangle of space in front of it. Because each room has a fire place that limits things even more. There really is no more room for movement in the door stairs rooms. I'd be happy with say a 3 bed with bigger sized rooms.
Due to his health DH had to stop full time work so only works part time self employed (his doctor wanted him to stop work all together and almost took his driving license away but the government deemed him fit for work with out even consulting his doctor) so we do get help with out rent as well as tax credits and child benefit and all the talks of cuts and capping worry me. ATM we don't get anywhere near the cap, but I still worry about what if we had a few more then they decided we were getting too much help and DH should be doing more so they take some of it away. He physically can't do any more than he does now so we'd really struggle. I have considered a little ebay business but I just don't think that theres anything different that I can do that will then bring in any real money.
And I worry about DS1 he has recently decided that DS2 is the favourite and no one likes him. I try so hard to make sure that they all get the same attention and he loves having little brothers, is excited about the baby, but then says that and it really breaks my heart that he thinks that.
Mob's I know exactly what you mean about others opinions about family size!, and it is such a shame that we let it get to us:) I usually tell them that me and Dh are both from big families, plus my mum raised us Catholic, and as soon as you mention religion they know it could become sticky territory so they let it go lol! My absolute WORST thing! Is when we personally get blamed for global warming! You can guarantee that they have just come back from a foreign holiday, and have already booked the next one! We heat the same sized 3 bedroom house as every one else, in fact with all the body heat its warmer;) aargh! I could go on:bigsmile:
I dread the Health visitor ever asking to look at the bomb site up stairs lol! Especially if we dont manage to get the loft done this century:) We had a friend of ours combine 2 toddler beds into toddler sized bunk beds! We looked online for something similar and the wanted £600!! Thats about $900 US , friggin shocking!
Mob's are you council or buying? Could you exchange? Hopefully there will be some more 3's coming available with the HB reduction if you council!
Its rubbish when their self employed isnt it;( We call it feast and famine living:) One week we're eating next week we're on the pasta again, which actually fitted perfectly with AS's info of HE/LE affect on gender lol! My DH is a roofer, so last summer when it just rained permanently he could get nothing done:( But it did fill the books for people wanting things done for this year:)
Would you be able to have a boot sale stand each week? I have been trying lately to find reliable wholesalers to buy off of for ebay, I have been carefully looking into sites like alibaba and DHgate, I do not intend to buy anything until I am certain about them, so far Alibaba looks like a risky investment but DHgate looks simpler. In the meantime I found the poundstores wholesale site, which would be good to buy from if you could have a stall somewhere to shift it on. I have the problem of the LO's but I was thinking of maybe at a later date setting up a stall for my teenagers to run maybe, a extra income for them!
This has turned into an essay aswell lol!!
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[motherofboys]

Hey sorry I've not been on line at all since my last post!
The problem when I had them all in the same room was that it left no where to put there toys. Even if they bring a couple of boxes of toys down to play with and don't take them up I'm tripping over them.
We are privately rented. Before we moved here (which was meant to be a 6 month stop gap so I didn't care what state it was in. Still here 6 years later) we were at DH parents. We have been on the council waiting list all this time but we have a secure tenancy so are deemed 'not in need of housing'. Someone did say surely we qualify as over crowded but they don't seem to think so and I expect they would just suggest we sleep down stairs like we do anyway.
When I was looking earlier in the year the rent on 3 beds in the village (thats my problem is I wont leave the village. I don't drive so I'd have to change their schools and I don't want to do that when they are happy and settled) were around £200 more a month, I was thinking we could maybe stretch to that if I cut back a little and DH said he'd put his rates up, his a gardener and doesn't charge nearly as much as others in the area do. But looking now they have gone up to 4-500 more a month. There is a light at the end of the tunnel as long as prices dont shoot up again. We have a loan with will be paid off in about 4 years which will help greatly, but its the waiting. And why DH said I'd have to wait 4-5 years for baby.
Peoples comments are annoying, especially the "wow you have your hands full" People do say things about needed a bigger house, and I say they will have to stick to their 'dorm' for now. I haven't told anyone that we have given up our room.

[My Three Sons]

The next time someone tells me that I will have my hands full, I'm going to tell them I'd rather have them full than empty...

As far as room for us, we have 3 bedrooms and DH has one of those. He snores something awful and I can't sleep if we are in the same room. I have one and the 2 year old is in with me. The two oldest boys share a bedroom. Once the baby is here, he will cosleep with me and the 2 year old will still be in his crib in my room. Eventually though we'll have to change the garage into a bedroom...

It works...

[Lld2006]

The next time someone tells me that I will have my hands full, I'm going to tell them I'd rather have them full than empty....

I LOVE THAT!!!! I am going to use that! But I am only telling strangers, as random as that seems....my friends still think I don't know and I've decided to keep it that way for now.

I posted in baby names to get opinions on my favorites. I just wish I could make a decision!

[*ruby*]

We just moved into a new 4 bedroom house so everyone will have their own room but baby will be in our bedroom for at least 6 months anyway.

Nothing wrong with sharing, pretty much everyone I knew as a kid shared with at least 1 sibling, I shared with my 2 younger sisters for quite a few years and it was a lot of fun growing up.

After saying I hadn't felt baby move much a few weeks ago it's now pretty much constantly kicking up a storm and DH can feel it too. I'm loving it although slightly worried about how active this baby might be when born!

Has anyone planned anything for the birth yet. I'm going to the hospital I work at and hoping for a water birth this time, I'm weirdly excited about it LOL.

[ELP]

I have 4 bedrooms downstairs and then last year we converted our attic and made an extra 3 bedrooms up there. Everyone has a room to themselves, I have now messed that up by having a 7th, someone is gonna have to share... LOL

That must be fantastic Peb!! I cant wait until something happens around here, weve promised the kids for the past 7 flamin years to do something! My older 2, 14 & 12 are definitely at the age where they need to be away from the little ones, its when the Lo's get all of their things out and break them, i havent told DS1 yet, but they broke one of his boxing trophies and Ive had to hide it, hes going to be gutted:(

Mob's do you keep an eye on the local rental situation? Can you set up an alert on something like rightmove? We are in a village here and the living is so nice, really friendly and community based, the oly thing I notice is that they do all seem to be quite related lol!!! I think they liked it when we moved here, fresh DNA!!!:rofl:

[ELP]

*ruby* I'm looking forward to birth aswell:) I have hospital births as its a break from home, and just get a taxi in by myself, get very, very drunk on gas and air, and bounce away on the birth ball to some up beat music, I call the midwife in when I know I am at the end, I really dont like any company in there which I know is different, I keep in touch with home by sending text messages lol, my DD1 is a very witty girl and has me laughing away the whole way through by telling me that they are eating curry and chocolate whilst I'm starving and bouncing like a loon on the ball:bigsmile: If I can get internet connection in there (doubt it) I may see whose online here for a bit of distraction:agree:

[motherofboys]

I shared with my 2 brothers until I was 7 and then used to sneak into their room once my Mum thought I was asleep and get into the bottom of one of their beds until I was about 11 and it became too uncomfortable LOL
I did co-sleep with my others but I feel really worried about doing that seeing as we are on a sofa bed now, there is still a free bottom bunk though so I may end up in there if it doesn't work out trying to not co-sleep LOL
My plans at the moment for the birth are pretty much the same as my last two, which is a home birth. Unless I change my mind through embarressment over the sleeping situation. I do worry about getting someone to look after the boys and them having to get here, then me get to the hospital. I always wait until I'm absolutely sure that its labour, which meant last time the midwife was only in my house half hour and she hadn't got her bag in from the car or examined me and he was born.
It would be much easier to be at home. I'd still call someone to come watch them or take them out if they were here, or to pick them up if they were at school, just in case I did need to transfer in. But it would be less of a panic at the start.

I'll be 24 weeks tomorrow, the other night he was kicking so strongly when I was asleep that I actually started dreaming I could feel him kicking, and woke up to find he actually was. First time ever, in any pregnancy I've been woken by kicks.
I am getting very excited now, keep thinking about all the things that I do every year, like I always have a Christmas shopping trip with my best friend, I keep imagining pushing a pram around again on that trip. Seems so long since I've pushed a pram LOL DS3 wasn't even 2 when he stopped using one. And looking at all the little baby clothes I have so far. I think I'll get DH to get the other stuff from the loft in a couple of weeks, maybe when I'm about 30 weeks, so I can sort it and wash what I want to keep. We have had such rubbish weather that its taking stuff ages to dry and I want to get a head start.
DS2 is so sweet, he keeps cuddling my belly and saying "see I'm cuddling the baby already"

DS1 worries me, like I say his convinced DS2 is the favourite and its not like that at all. I always swore I would never use his age against him. I was 13 months older than my twin brothers and always thought it was unfair when I was told I was older so should know better. I try my hardest to treat them all the same. The thing is DS1 has always been independent, his always been able to play by himself and been good as gold, apart from this new attitude. Where as DS2 has always been a real handful and given the chance to get bored he will with in minutes cause trouble and destruction. So its easier to keep him entertained and out of trouble than spend the whole day telling him to stop doing things. I get him to help with cooking dinner (which he loves, he wants to be a chef) or give him the dust pan and brush and he will spend ages sweeping the same bit of floor. Or take anything sharp out the sink and let him wash up. But because his with me, or with DH helping him do jobs. DS1 sees this as us wanting to spend time with DS2 more than him. DS2 can't just be put in his bed and left. He needs 'winding down' and again DS1 sees this as DH wanting to be with DS2 rather than him. DH offers to do things with DS1 and he says he doesn't want to, then waits until DH is busy or trying to calm DS2 down and then will ask him to come and do something with him.
His got such an attitude at the moment and I feel awful because all I seem to be doing is telling him off or arguing with him. He talks to everyone like they are idiots and picks on his brothers. I try to explain to him why we have to do that stuff with DS2 but his attitude isn't helping him because it means he does end up getting told off a lot more. And his started hanging around with a boy at school who I know puts him into that mood. The boy is a bully and you can always tell his been with him because he comes home like that, but lately his been with him every day so it isn't helping.
I'm trying to be understanding, I can see why he thinks those things and that he might be worried with another baby on the way (although he was the main one asking "when can we have another baby" since the last one was born) that he'll get less attention, and I know most of his behaviour is probably for attention. But it doesn't make it any less frustrating.

[motherofboys]

I think they liked it when we moved here, fresh DNA!!!:rofl:

LMAO and you are certainly supplying plenty of fresh DNA for them LOL
Most of the people are lovely and a lot of them have lived here all their lives and gone to the school that their kids are now at etc which I love, it does make it very friendly and a good community. DH is only from the next village along so knew people. The only thing I find is that it makes for expensive property, and a lot of people who move into the village are snobs LOL

I do check to see whats come up every couple of months. I'm not sure how the contract works really on our place and will have to check it and see if there is something in there about moving before the contract is up. Seeing as it ends in October I doubt I'd want to move the month I was due anyway LOL

[ELP]

Mob's I'm sure I was told that boys have a testosterone surge around 7? This extra acting up could be partly because of this. My 7 yr old DS is trying to assert his authority atm, a lot of NO's! and Why should I's! I think hes testing the water with his new found confidence? I doesnt help when your pg does it:) They seem to know that were not on full form and take advantage a little lol.

[ELP]

LMAO and you are certainly supplying plenty of fresh DNA for them LOL
Most of the people are lovely and a lot of them have lived here all their lives and gone to the school that their kids are now at etc which I love, it does make it very friendly and a good community. DH is only from the next village along so knew people. The only thing I find is that it makes for expensive property, and a lot of people who move into the village are snobs LOL

I do check to see whats come up every couple of months. I'm not sure how the contract works really on our place and will have to check it and see if there is something in there about moving before the contract is up. Seeing as it ends in October I doubt I'd want to move the month I was due anyway LOL

Can you imagine if you happened to notice the right pace just happen to come available! How exciting would that be! Would you consider putting a note in the shop window just incase someone local knows of something or someone who is thinking of renting out but a bit worried about the hassle of an agent, they may just be looking for a local well known family with a good reference and would be able to maybe lower the monthly bill due to no middle man!

[LolaInLove]

Lola!:bighug: I wondered where youve been! That is a bummer about the job, how are you financially because of it, ok? The freelance sounds a good idea! You can use the time you have at home now (when your not sleeping;):bigsmile:) to get a little website set up maybe, then when the little fella gets old enough you ca launch it and start doing your own thing! Is your work doable from home or do you need to be in site for it?

Eh, I'm a bit stressed about it now because I am/was the breadwinner and I hate to start something new and potentially stressful when I'm almost 6 months pg but gotta do what you gotta do. My DH is an artist so he doesn't make much and I've been getting upset with him lately wishing he would step up and do more now. I am mostly worried about the insurance thing, and here is the US, when you lose your job, you can keep paying for your own insurance to continue but it's super expensive, so part of me just wants to have the baby at home LOL and not have all the bills.

I love the hands full, not empty comment too! That is perfect!!!

[motherofboys]

Hopefully a testosterone surge is to blame LOL