Due in December/January/February 2013/14

[myrainbowgirl]

Thanks for the warm welcome, ladies!

Meeks...I am feeling fine so far! Just tired. Never have had bad morning sickness...praying the same this time. :) How are you feeling? Morning sickness? Do you feel different this time?

I didn't sway with any of my boys. Only this time. How about you with your Ds's?

Question for all of you...was anyone offered the blood test at 12 weeks that can tell you gender? A local friend of mine said that two of her pregnant friends just found out at 12 weeks what they were having, that their doctors offered the bloodwork with their 12-week scan & screens. But, it doesn't seem to be the norm on this site. I probably won't see my doc till later in July, so I will ask her then, but was just curious if any of your docs offered it as standard screening?

Also, the "Add your girl sway" thread is located as a subforum in the regular (not private) TTC Girl forum. Just click the link and you'll find it! :)

[meeks32]

Thanks for the warm welcome, ladies!

Meeks...I am feeling fine so far! Just tired. Never have had bad morning sickness...praying the same this time. :) How are you feeling? Morning sickness? Do you feel different this time?

I didn't sway with any of my boys. Only this time. How about you with your Ds's?

Question for all of you...was anyone offered the blood test at 12 weeks that can tell you gender? A local friend of mine said that two of her pregnant friends just found out at 12 weeks what they were having, that their doctors offered the bloodwork with their 12-week scan & screens. But, it doesn't seem to be the norm on this site. I probably won't see my doc till later in July, so I will ask her then, but was just curious if any of your docs offered it as standard screening?

Also, the "Add your girl sway" thread is located as a subforum in the regular (not private) TTC Girl forum. Just click the link and you'll find it! :)

I've heard of that test, it's valid from 6 or so weeks if I remember correctly, there used to be a thread on it, somewhere under old wives tales and symptom guessing...?? Apparently it's super super expensive ($200 from memory) but I never fact checked that in real life so may be wrong. I would do it if it was cheaper. I will ask too. I am in Australia and have never been offered or heard of it here until I read that thread.

Yep very different this time, but I'm not sure if that's more to do with spending over a year on LE diet or the actual pregnancy itself. Been VERY sick waking up at 3am spending 2 hrs trying to throw up in the toilet then only an hour sleep before the household wakes up. Last two times I was sick but not too bad at night. Protein is helping. I'm also showing already! Obviously it must be bloating but my tummy is out and my boobs are huge already. I couldn't do up my jacket it's that bad! And I've only gained 1.7kgs (which I basically gained in the 2ww knowing I was pg, after LE I think my body needed it).

I have also had cravings which I've never had before. Both the last two I wanted to eat more here and there, or maybe allowed a few extra treats but basically are healthy as normal and didn't really experience anything like cravings. Now I seriously can't stop eating and drinking dairy. Milk, cheese, yoghurt, sour cream you name it. I'm not above eating it straight from the jar either. It's ridiculous! I can't stop. However then I've also gone off some foods and can't find much I feel like eating when it's time for a meal.

[grace03]

Meeks I have been craving dairy , mainly hot chocolate ( winter here) and banana milk shakes ! Hope that means girl for both of us as I didn't care for dairy with my first 3 ..... Interesting

[meeks32]

Meeks I have been craving dairy , mainly hot chocolate ( winter here) and banana milk shakes ! Hope that means girl for both of us as I didn't care for dairy with my first 3 ..... Interesting

I totally don't believe that different cravings have anything to do with what gender bubs is, but since that works in the way I want, I'm going to make an exception and go with it. That definitely means we are having girls, Lol!!! Oooh fx fx fx.

I truly couldn't tell from your scan so I think you have a great shot.

I'm in Aus too (VIC) where are you? I keep hoping to meet someone nearby on here one day!!

I had the most massive banana smoothie today, so funny we both want such similar things!!

[grace03]

I'm in Adelaide SA yes hopefully the banana milk shakes are a sign xxx

[fourthtimesacharm]

Meeks I have been craving dairy , mainly hot chocolate ( winter here) and banana milk shakes ! Hope that means girl for both of us as I didn't care for dairy with my first 3 ..... Interesting


When I was pregnant with my three girls I craved milk I would eat two bowls of cereal in the morning and like two glasses of milk at night.

[Dreamofpink]

When I was pregnant with my three girls I craved milk I would eat two bowls of cereal in the morning and like two glasses of milk at night.

I know you don't take any stock in cravings and gender but I craved milk with ds2. I couldn't start the day without downing a pint of milk! He hates it btw....oops! :D

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[black&gold]

I can't really say I ever crave during pregnancy.. however, with both DS's I was pregnant when Cinnamon Heart candies were still in stores from Valentines day and I ate ridiculous amounts of them. This pregnancy all I want is poutine - I'm from Canada, so if you have no idea what that is it's french fries with gravy and cheese curds - probably sounds nasty but OH MAN, I could seriously eat one a day and don't stop whining to hubby about wanting one almost daily. My two boy pregnancies were so different is so many ways that I don't ever get my hopes up on a new or different symptom this time around.. I think for me, it's just pregnancy dependent.. nothing to do with gender! We can all hope though right! :D

[meeks32]

Exactly right ladies. I tend to think its each child having a different taste and need, rather than gender. I find it odd I've never had cravings before and do now. But I would imagine that's coming off LE diet making me crave what I need.

[myrainbowgirl]

Fun to hear about all your cravings! With DS1, I craved chocolate-dipped oreos, terra chips, & full-fat salad dressing! I'm guessing from those cravings I must have needed some fat. :) With him, I had aversions to my normal fibery cereal (such as raisin bran, shredded wheat, etc.) & occasionally salad would turn my stomach.

With DS2, I craved fruit! Any fruit, I could eat bowls and bowls of it! I was pretty nauseous in general with him, but don't remember specific foods that bothered me.

With DS3, I didn't crave anything or have aversions...I remember telling people that he already loves his mama so much, he's so easy!

So far with this one, I hadn't had any nausea until today when I ate my lunch. It wasn't awful, just notable. So far, no cravings, just starving! :) My only other symptoms are sore boobs, tiredness, and an occasional mild cramp (I had pretty strong cramps around BFP with my other 3).

[afy]

Ahhhh ladies! I was doing the same at first trying to think maybe the opposite pregnancy symptoms or cravings mean opposite gender! I wound myself up at the start and felt I was really gettin carried away! But I really don't think it means anything about gender. I still have a deep feeling its a girl, but it's very strange you guys mentioned your milk cravings, because when I was pregnant with DD I craved a HUGE cold glass of milk and would drink it twice a day!! My APETITE was craazzzY.. This time round I hardly have an APETITE anytime my hunger starts to kick in so does my nausea.. I did have a craving for soury stuff but that's subsided now...

Does anybody know whn they will have their gender scans??

[Soar]

Well as far as cravings this time go I am always thirsty and drink a large glass of milk first thing in the morning and usually another at night. I also really like pineapple at the moment. I made a pineapple upside down cake and now I am eating pineapples like they are going out of style. Thought maybe the provided some vitamin I was lacking but they seem to only supply vitamin C and manganese so I am a little clueless. With DS1 I really liked ice cream. With DS2
I really liked cheese. I think it really makes no difference but its definitely a fun thing to notice.

How is everyone carrying this baby? Out front our all around? I am only 10 weeks but I am noticing I am out front with some pretty nice love handles on the side. It's a little tough to make it all out just yet but I was curious as to what you ladies are noticing?

[meeks32]

Lol afy you summed it up. Everyone else made me laugh too.

I am barely pregnant and I swear I am already showing. I can't believe it. I tried to do up my jeans and had to suck in. And I have lost weight this week so WTF? Then I went to do up my jacket and my boobs are massive and I couldn't do it up!!! WHAT? Isn't it early for this?

[Tree]

I'm also loving milk!! And this is the first pregnancy I've had cravings. I've always had aversions though, mainly to smells... But with my first I could eat let alone even look at green vegetables.

I'm still so tired!! But crazily so. I'm sure I'm meant to be energised by now and I can't even imagine feeling like that. Seriously struggling.

Also showing loads but I've eaten so much to stop the nausea. I can feel my proper bump now, actually feels quite tender...

Ok perhaps tmi... But is anyone getting the extreme wetness 'down there', I've had it since the early days. Also had a lot of seriously thick stretchy stuff that's either pale yellow or the faintest green. No smell of anything, just not something I've experienced before. Sorry if I have just massively overstated!!

[Emily]

Lol afy you summed it up. Everyone else made me laugh too.

I am barely pregnant and I swear I am already showing. I can't believe it. I tried to do up my jeans and had to suck in. And I have lost weight this week so WTF? Then I went to do up my jacket and my boobs are massive and I couldn't do it up!!! WHAT? Isn't it early for this?

That is natures way of thanking DH;)

[Dreamofpink]

I'm also loving milk!! And this is the first pregnancy I've had cravings. I've always had aversions though, mainly to smells... But with my first I could eat let alone even look at green vegetables.

I'm still so tired!! But crazily so. I'm sure I'm meant to be energised by now and I can't even imagine feeling like that. Seriously struggling.

Also showing loads but I've eaten so much to stop the nausea. I can feel my proper bump now, actually feels quite tender...

Ok perhaps tmi... But is anyone getting the extreme wetness 'down there', I've had it since the early days. Also had a lot of seriously thick stretchy stuff that's either pale yellow or the faintest green. No smell of anything, just not something I've experienced before. Sorry if I have just massively overstated!!

Yep, urgh! Gave myself thrush by trying to use pantyliners & despite changing them very frequently it didn't help. I gave up and ended up going through 4 pairs of pants a day around 10 weeks pg. Thank goodness I'm a SAHM! It's eased off a little now but I don't remember this from either ds, not something I'm likely to forget!!

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[grace03]

[QUOTE=Dreamofpink;423983]Yep, urgh! Gave myself thrush by trying to use pantyliners & despite changing them very frequently it didn't help. I gave up and ended up going through 4 pairs of pants a day around 10 weeks pg. Thank goodness I'm a SAHM! It's eased off a little now but I don't remember this from either ds, not something I'm likely to forget!!

I didn't have any of the above 'down there. ' symptoms with my 3 boys so far but it's been crazy this time it's how I thought I was pregnant in the first place before any other symptoms !

Dream of pink are you going to find out ? I noticed your a week ahead if me xx

[Dreamofpink]

[QUOTE=Dreamofpink;423983]Yep, urgh! Gave myself thrush by trying to use pantyliners & despite changing them very frequently it didn't help. I gave up and ended up going through 4 pairs of pants a day around 10 weeks pg. Thank goodness I'm a SAHM! It's eased off a little now but I don't remember this from either ds, not something I'm likely to forget!!

I didn't have any of the above 'down there. ' symptoms with my 3 boys so far but it's been crazy this time it's how I thought I was pregnant in the first place before any other symptoms !

Dream of pink are you going to find out ? I noticed your a week ahead if me xx

Yep, waiting for a date for my anomaly scan. Hopefully will find out then, ds2 gave nothing away at that stage so hope this one will co-operate! Building up the courage to post my nt scan pics from a month ago. Just couldn't bear weeks of nub-sessing!

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[Tree]

[QUOTE=grace03;424010]

Yep, waiting for a date for my anomaly scan. Hopefully will find out then, ds2 gave nothing away at that stage so hope this one will co-operate! Building up the courage to post my nt scan pics from a month ago. Just couldn't bear weeks of nub-sessing!

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Post post post!! How could you not share with us. :-) x

[Tree]

So the leaking happened again... Google google google, could be watery discharge, urine, amniotic fluid. Stumbled across some good info though, apparently amniotic fluid has a ph of 6.6/7 (bit of a come back for the old ph strips), which haven't totally dried yet but are looking like a watery discharge 5. Thought I'd share in case anyone else had a similar freak out.

But do note urine has a similar ph so you need to go directly to the 'suspected source' and not panties. I actually starting to suspect that both occasions were a little bit of wee... Can't even believe I'm writing this!! Never had this issue before.

Will keep an eye on things anyway. Oh the glamour of pregnancy!!

[Dreamofpink]

So the leaking happened again... Google google google, could be watery discharge, urine, amniotic fluid. Stumbled across some good info though, apparently amniotic fluid has a ph of 6.6/7 (bit of a come back for the old ph strips), which haven't totally dried yet but are looking like a watery discharge 5. Thought I'd share in case anyone else had a similar freak out.

But do note urine has a similar ph so you need to go directly to the 'suspected source' and not panties. I actually starting to suspect that both occasions were a little bit of wee... Can't even believe I'm writing this!! Never had this issue before.

Will keep an eye on things anyway. Oh the glamour of pregnancy!!

Tree this is a serious TMI ALERT! I still get a lot of white watery cm each morning that runs down the top of my leg a bit when I'm in my pjs :eek: I daren't wear pants under my pjs because I don't want to roll out the welcome mat for thrush again. I just have to catch it with a tissue. I know I'd remember this from my ds's and I certainly did not have this issue. My Mum said she had it with both me & my sis. I can understand why you'd worry about wee or amniotic fluid but I'm sure it's prob leuchorrea, which is a totally normal pg symtom, just bloody annoying & worrying in the early weeks. I dreaded checking my knickers each time as it felt like I'd been caught out by af. Hope that helps put your mind at rest and you can all take me seriously again :D If you are worried though make sure you contact your midwife.

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[Tree]

Totally been caught out by the pj trousers and no pants situation!! :-)

In the early days I too was always thinking AF had just arrived, then got bored of checking.

I have drunk a lot of water today and apparently that makes girlie stuff a bit more watery.

[Tree]

Dreamofpink don't think that little diversion is going to let me forget you're in possession of some scan pics you're not sharing... Hehe. :-)

[gods_promise]

I had my NT scan this week, the scan was done by the high risk Dr and he told us at the beginning he might be able to tell us gender with some certainty... unfortunately that didn't happen. At first baby was sleeping so he woke her up by shaking my belly and such. Once baby was up, she was busy doing summersaults and moving around, sucking her thumb, etc... she was active I tell ya! And she also kept her legs crossed. He looked at other body parts and came back down there but nope, baby is shy and refused to show us the goodies! I was a bit disappointed BUT I'm so relieved everything looked great and baby measured right on time. The doc told us baby has long arms and it looks like she'll be a tall person :) It was so nice seeing my little one looking like a human baby and the fact that she looked happy in there makes me happy.

[myrainbowgirl]

I was just wondering about my "lack of" wetness. I have hardly had any discharge to speak of, and I remember quite a bit of creamy with the boys early on. Probably has to do with the LE diet, since I'm still so fresh coming off of it. CM was reduced while TTC, so I guess it makes sense that it's still reduced! I bet as I go back to some of my old diet, the wetness will return. We'll see!

god's promise - yay for a great NT scan! I love your faith that "she" is a "she"! You should read my sway, I have similar feelings...there's a link in my siggy. :)

[meeks32]

I was just wondering about my "lack of" wetness. I have hardly had any discharge to speak of, and I remember quite a bit of creamy with the boys early on. Probably has to do with the LE diet, since I'm still so fresh coming off of it. CM was reduced while TTC, so I guess it makes sense that it's still reduced! I bet as I go back to some of my old diet, the wetness will return. We'll see!

god's promise - yay for a great NT scan! I love your faith that "she" is a "she"! You should read my sway, I have similar feelings...there's a link in my siggy. :)

I was wondering about that too but just the past few days mine has increased. I think its definitely a leftover effect of LE diet.

[myrainbowgirl]

I've heard of that test, it's valid from 6 or so weeks if I remember correctly, there used to be a thread on it, somewhere under old wives tales and symptom guessing...?? Apparently it's super super expensive ($200 from memory) but I never fact checked that in real life so may be wrong. I would do it if it was cheaper. I will ask too. I am in Australia and have never been offered or heard of it here until I read that thread.

Yep very different this time, but I'm not sure if that's more to do with spending over a year on LE diet or the actual pregnancy itself. Been VERY sick waking up at 3am spending 2 hrs trying to throw up in the toilet then only an hour sleep before the household wakes up. Last two times I was sick but not too bad at night. Protein is helping. I'm also showing already! Obviously it must be bloating but my tummy is out and my boobs are huge already. I couldn't do up my jacket it's that bad! And I've only gained 1.7kgs (which I basically gained in the 2ww knowing I was pg, after LE I think my body needed it).

I have also had cravings which I've never had before. Both the last two I wanted to eat more here and there, or maybe allowed a few extra treats but basically are healthy as normal and didn't really experience anything like cravings. Now I seriously can't stop eating and drinking dairy. Milk, cheese, yoghurt, sour cream you name it. I'm not above eating it straight from the jar either. It's ridiculous! I can't stop. However then I've also gone off some foods and can't find much I feel like eating when it's time for a meal.

So Meeks, wanted to say the SAME thing happened to me this AM! I woke up at 3 am to pee, and I had a hard time going to sleep after that from nausea, it was this feeling mostly in my upper stomach/esophagus...thought I could throw up, but never got to the point where I had to sit in front of the toilet. I've never had that before, mainly nausea with my aversions with DS's 1 & 2. DS 3 was so easy...felt great with him! So, I think lying awake with nausea from 3-7 am probably qualifies as real morning sickness. Have you been having it every morning? We'll see if mine continues. Yuck!

[meeks32]

Most mornings, yes. I have found having a high protein snack before bed helps a lot. I have a handful of almonds or pistachios and a glass of milk before bed and immediately if I wake up at 3 or 4am. This seems to have fixed it a bit for now... (*holds breath)

So this morning my ds1 jumps in my bed and I roll on my back to say hi. He takes a look at my chest (I had a tight-ish top on) and goes "mum, those are big. Like, really big" and attempts to rub my boobs! He's 4!!! Even he has noticed the jump in size! Haha. I had to have another awkward 'what's appropriate' conversation with him. Lol

I want to tell him what's going on but he will just blab about it at daycare and the whole town (and my workplace) will know in no time. So for now I'm just ignoring it.

In other news ds2 and I have caught the same cold. I hate winter!

[Emily]

Oh Meeks how funny! I love those conversations as they are soooo innocent and have no idea why rubbing someone's boobs or playing with their willies at playgroup is not ideal!

DS2 floored me when i said dont rub yourself on the climbing frame by asking "why not"? I was surprised as he is only 2 and ended up saying something lame like "otherwise the other boys and girls won't be able to climb up!"

My MS has gone now at 12 weeks so hopefully yours will pass soon too.

Whilst idly googling gender scans in my last 30 mins of allowed nubsession I found a centre at Gatwick airport that do it so I could get a scan whilst waiting for my flight. It would only be 15 weeks though so am not sure if it is worth th headless. It is pretty cheap though so am seriously considering it as I have no idea about scan availability where we are going. On th elfin side I won't be much fun on a 15 hr flight if I hear blue.

[GeCon]

Emily, so you are posting about nubsessing on here now as you told us to tell you off for doing so from today? :rofl:

Seriously though, I think I would consider going for the scan at Gatwick if you have the time and it is not too expensive. Although only you know how you would react IF you didn't hear what you are hoping to hear and how you would cope with it on your 15 hour flight. Let us know what you decide.

[Dreamofpink]

Gecon's right Emily, get back to your boxes & stop nubsessing :rofl: Haha!!

In all seriousness, that's a difficult one....Thorz was told wrong at that stage so would you be left wondering? The long flight might be good for you to silently come to terms with hearing boy -if in fact you do!! - but I think it depends on your personality and might be hell too. If you're likely to cry & weep it might be best to leave it. Too much choice is a bad thing sometimes. What does Dh think? X

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[Emily]

Thanks ladies I am pretending to pack while I type LOL!

DH thinks we should leave well alone but I think that is because he doesn't want to be told anything different. He's all "it's still 50 50 let's not get our hopes up, boys are fabulous" etc etc but has only suggested girls names since we heard. I don't think I could take his GD as well as my own on th eg light LOL! He gets MS worse than I do and even complained of backache in the delivery room. There is such a thing as too much empathy;)

Someone is coming to buy our sofa in an hour so it is all getting real.

[meeks32]

Oh Meeks how funny! I love those conversations as they are soooo innocent and have no idea why rubbing someone's boobs or playing with their willies at playgroup is not ideal!

DS2 floored me when i said dont rub yourself on the climbing frame by asking "why not"? I was surprised as he is only 2 and ended up saying something lame like "otherwise the other boys and girls won't be able to climb up!"

My MS has gone now at 12 weeks so hopefully yours will pass soon too.

Whilst idly googling gender scans in my last 30 mins of allowed nubsession I found a centre at Gatwick airport that do it so I could get a scan whilst waiting for my flight. It would only be 15 weeks though so am not sure if it is worth th headless. It is pretty cheap though so am seriously considering it as I have no idea about scan availability where we are going. On th elfin side I won't be much fun on a 15 hr flight if I hear blue.

DO IT, DO IT! I would! I will!!! Get out of the seat and let me drive, i'll book it for you! LOL

I know 15 weeks is early but what else are you going to do at the airport anyway, and it just may put some of your mind at ease!

[meeks32]

ps emily i've forgotten where you are moving to now? I know you are in Spain at the moment.

I have forgotten a lot of things. Yesterday I addressed an envelope to myself instead of the person I was intending to send it to, and when it arrived at my doorstep today, all I could do is laugh.

I also put dairy in some dough I was using in our dinner tonight, when ds1 has milk protein allergy. I have never in 4 years ever, EVER put dairy in anything he ate, and I didnt realise until it was too late and he ate all his dinner for like the first time ever. *headsmack. I guess we've been meaning to try him again, since they say they can grow out of it. 6 months ago we trialled him and he had 13 days of diarrhoea with blood in it and everything so i'm not looking forward to this.

Baby brain is so frustrating! I swear i'm a smart person usually. haha

[Emily]

How funny Meeks! Always nice to get a letter:) I managed to squirt myself ith eye today with a child's trick camera that was laying on the table. I mean honestly! Has anyone in the history of the planet ever fallen for that before doh!

We are off to Vietnam so a big change from Europe.

[meeks32]

How funny Meeks! Always nice to get a letter:) I managed to squirt myself ith eye today with a child's trick camera that was laying on the table. I mean honestly! Has anyone in the history of the planet ever fallen for that before doh!

We are off to Vietnam so a big change from Europe.

Lol lol lol. At least I'm not the only one.

Vietnam is beautiful, I've been to Thailand and near the border but never gone to Vietnam. It's next on our list of places to take the kids when they are old enough to not shit me to tears on the plane. Hahaha. A few friends recently went for holidays and one of them moved her friend back from there after a 5 year working stint. They all loved it.

I hope the flight goes well for you and navigating the medical system in pregnancy isn't too hard. I find it difficult in my own country, so I can only imagine it would be more daunting in another.

[myrainbowgirl]

Good morning, ladies! I think I may be the only one in the US on this thread...but then again, I am SOOOO not a morning person. LOL!

Emily, totally do the scan! You can always keep in mind that it's early if you hear blue. I can't wait to start hearing all of you ladies' gender results...mine is PROBABLY forever away. I say probably because there's a small chance my doc *may* do the gender blood test at 12 weeks. Fx!! :)

Emily & Meeks, too funny on the preggo brain! I haven't done anything just yet, but I know from my past history that it's just a matter of time. :)

AFM - More morning sickness this AM. Hours of it laying in bed after waking to pee. I actually got up to pee like 4 times!! Ugh. I may try your suggestion of a handful of almonds, Meeks. I was soooo tired this morning after such terrible sleep. At the same time, having MS reassures me I'm pg! Ha.

Hope you all have a great Saturday!

[Soar]

Myrainbowgirl-I'm in Texas!

Emily-I would do the scan too! Sounds great!

Meeks-we had friends over to swim today and their little girl has been over before and I couldn't remember her name. Ugh baby brain is no joke this time around! I kept calling her sweet heart and little miss! My DH was like do you know her name? I said yes but I just can't recall it at the moment! Ugh

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - Don't mess with Texas!! :) I am originally from GA, but have lived in CO for 10 years now. LOVE it!

[Soar]

I lived in Lagrange, Georgia for a while in middle school! We loved the boiled peanuts! We visit CO in the winter for some snowboarding. My DH is a big snowboarding fan. He has always wanted to live there! We normally go in February but won't this year since baby3 is due in January!

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - My Mom grew up in LaGrange! I grew up in Columbus. Graduated from Auburn U. Some things I miss...of course family and old friends, but also the gorgeous fall color and of course, southern college football! (War Eagle! :)) And oooo boiled peanuts...it's been ages since I've had any. So sad!

Where do you guys snowboard? We really like Breckenridge and Copper Mountain. Were planning to ski in Vail for our 10-year anniversary (actually next month but we were going to wait till winter to celebrate), but now that plan is on hold with the new baby. :)

[Soar]

That's so awesome! I really enjoyed GA, sweet tea and those boiled peanuts! Ohhh I can smell those now!

Crested butte and Breckenridge is where we have gone the last 4 years. He wants to go to CO in the spring or summer As a family trip. He really loves everything CO has to offer. :-) He is always so happy there! We plan on taking the kids in 2015 for their 1st ski trip. He can't wait for that vacation!
The south is a great place for football!!!! I went to UT so I like to pretend I know what's up! Even though most times it's just to get us all matching outfits! :-)

[myrainbowgirl]

Lol on the matching outfits! My sis and her family live in Auburn, and she has 3 boys, too...so we have gotten TONS of Auburn gear handed down to us, which of course is great, since I can't just walk into a store here and buy stuff! UT...University of Texas or University of Tennessee?

Never been to Crested Butte, but I've heard it's awesome! Our oldest is almost 6, so I'm thinking the hubs should take him skiing this winter. Start 'em young! :) Yes, summer in CO is wonderful, too. We live on the front range, but still "vacation" in the mountains here most years. Going to Keystone in a few weeks.

So, when are you due? Did you post your sway? How are you feeling? Sorry for 20 questions. :)

[Tree]

Emily you might as well do the scan, lets be honest you're not going to stop thinking about it anyway! :-)

[meeks32]

Finally posted my sway!

http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31138

[Mathilde]

Glad I found you! I think my settings are put so that payment goes automatically;) Woke up Saturday early morning with the worst stomach ache, afraid of food poisoning, but none of the boys ill, sat on toilet with runny tummy and a bucket(which I didn't use) on my lap.. Felt like death yesterday, better today, but still really queasy, especially out walking the dogs.. Strange as I jogged and felt good on Friday. One worrying factor is that my boobs are feeling more normal, hope that doesn't mean I'm out.. And my uterus hasnt been streching last evening.. worrying about everything..On the other hand they have don their job twice before and may not need to change that much this time? How have yours felt these weeks? Wish my crappy dr would do blood tests.. So I knew how things were progressing.. But as long as I feel really hung over and jus want to lie in bed I'm probably safe? Went to brother in laws yesterday evening, he makes the best lasagne, and although I'd only eaten 1 slice of bread all day, I couldn't handle more than a small piece. A good sign I thnk.

[Soar]

Myrainbowgirl-University of Texas! Hook'em Horns!! I am due 1-14-14! That's a
Good girl month for us since both of my grandma's birthdays are in January! Actually Jan 15th and 16th! So a girl on January 14th sounds good to me!!! I did sway and posted it in the girl sway section. I need to put a link of my signature but I keep forgetting to do that! When are
You due? I looked at your sway and it looks awesome!!!!!!

Mathilde-I think you are def still in the game. Sometimes symptoms come and go. I def think sore boobs come and go, at least they do for me! :-)

Meeks-going to look at your sway now !

[meeks32]

Glad I found you! I think my settings are put so that payment goes automatically;) Woke up Saturday early morning with the worst stomach ache, afraid of food poisoning, but none of the boys ill, sat on toilet with runny tummy and a bucket(which I didn't use) on my lap.. Felt like death yesterday, better today, but still really queasy, especially out walking the dogs.. Strange as I jogged and felt good on Friday. One worrying factor is that my boobs are feeling more normal, hope that doesn't mean I'm out.. And my uterus hasnt been streching last evening.. worrying about everything..On the other hand they have don their job twice before and may not need to change that much this time? How have yours felt these weeks? Wish my crappy dr would do blood tests.. So I knew how things were progressing.. But as long as I feel really hung over and jus want to lie in bed I'm probably safe? Went to brother in laws yesterday evening, he makes the best lasagne, and although I'd only eaten 1 slice of bread all day, I couldn't handle more than a small piece. A good sign I thnk.

Wow this is freakishly similar to how I was.

I had the whole 'think its food poisoning' thing on the toilet too. It happened for a week, every morning. 3-5am like clockwork. High protein snacks before bed and immediately when I woke up at 3am helped me. So a glass of milk and handful of almonds or even almond meal mixed into your milk is great. A friend told me ms is a low protein and low blood sugar thing so high protein snacks often are ideal.

As long as you aren't bleeding I would take this as everything is fine. If you do bleed it could still be fine but that would warrant a blood test.

When is your first scan?

Because I was on clomid my fertility doc agreed to an early scan (where my crappy gp refused) and I'm having one at 7 weeks (next Tuesday).

Ps my boobs took ages to hurt, it's not a sign for everyone. They hurt more/differently near my period. They did feel different, just not sore.

[Dreamofpink]

Mathilde, sounds like you're having a rough time of it. :( Hopefully that means you've got a good sticky bean there. Have you tried Meeks' advice yet? I think it's normal for symptoms to come & go although I always panicked whenever they did.

Emily have you decided on the scan yet? I have an impending sense of doom after you & Tree getting such good girly guesses from your nt scan pics. I was naively hoping for the same clear cut guesses & now feel I'll be the one to help balance out the girls :D Have you seen the fab streak of girls in the Nov group? Gives hope....

Meeks your sway looks amazing, so hope you have your little girl in there. I must post mine...

Welcome Myrainbow baby!! Congrats on your bfp :D

Hope everyone else is doing well. Who has a scan next? Is it you Meeks? :)

Afm, sorry for being a bit down at the mo. :( We've finally agreed a sale on our house again so that's taken some worry off my shoulders. Now I have my next scan date the worrying over gender has escalated. I was hoping for a good idea of what to expect to hear from my nt scan pic but that wasn't meant to be. Dh really wants to wait until the birth to find out but I need time to process ds3 & look forward to meeting him. My parents & kids are leaning pink & dh keeps bothering me to come up with girls names but I don't want to waste my time & get my hopes up if it's not necessary.

Has anyone got any idea if there's a slight link between LOTS of cm throughout the pg & gender? My Mum had loads with both me & my sis. I had nothing out of the ordinary with my ds's. This time I've had soooo much right from the start I'm still having to change my pants twice a day somedays. I wondered if it was linked to hormone levels as my hair growth is different too. It's much finer, softer & slower growing. I'm just curious but aware that I'm prob clutching at straws :D

Btw is anyone else not putting any weight on? I've been the same for the last month or so. I ballooned with ds2 so it's weird this time to still be a stone (14lb) lighter than my pre-le diet weight & 4 months pg!!

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[Emily]

Mathilde, sounds like you're having a rough time of it. :( Hopefully that means you've got a good sticky bean there. Have you tried Meeks' advice yet? I think it's normal for symptoms to come & go although I always panicked whenever they did.

Emily have you decided on the scan yet? I have an impending sense of doom after you & Tree getting such good girly guesses from your nt scan pics. I was naively hoping for the same clear cut guesses & now feel I'll be the one to help balance out the girls :D Have you seen the fab streak of girls in the Nov group? Gives hope....

Meeks your sway looks amazing, so hope you have your little girl in there. I must post mine...

Welcome Myrainbow baby!! Congrats on your bfp :D

Hope everyone else is doing well. Who has a scan next? Is it you Meeks? :)

Afm, sorry for being a bit down at the mo. :( We've finally agreed a sale on our house again so that's taken some worry off my shoulders. Now I have my next scan date the worrying over gender has escalated. I was hoping for a good idea of what to expect to hear from my nt scan pic but that wasn't meant to be. Dh really wants to wait until the birth to find out but I need time to process ds3 & look forward to meeting him. My parents & kids are leaning pink & dh keeps bothering me to come up with girls names but I don't want to waste my time & get my hopes up if it's not necessary.

Has anyone got any idea if there's a slight link between LOTS of cm throughout the pg & gender? My Mum had loads with both me & my sis. I had nothing out of the ordinary with my ds's. This time I've had soooo much right from the start I'm still having to change my pants twice a day somedays. I wondered if it was linked to hormone levels as my hair growth is different too. It's much finer, softer & slower growing. I'm just curious but aware that I'm prob clutching at straws :D

Btw is anyone else not putting any weight on? I've been the same for the last month or so. I ballooned with ds2 so it's weird this time to still be a stone (14lb) lighter than my pre-le diet weight & 4 months pg!!

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After a few enquiries I don't think that I will be able to fit in the scan, return the hire car and catch the plane in time! The pessimist in me is also thinking that if this is a boy then I should wait till 20 weeks so I have the hope of a girl for 8 more weeks.

I am thinking of boys and girls names for the same reason - I might not need them but I sure as heck won't need them after this pregnancy so may as well enjoy thinking of them now.

You have just as much of a chance of pink as anyone, nobody said 100 % did they? I go through hopeful days and doom filled days too. It is normal - we are hormonally unstable LOL.

[Dreamofpink]

After a few enquiries I don't think that I will be able to fit in the scan, return the hire car and catch the plane in time! The pessimist in me is also thinking that if this is a boy then I should wait till 20 weeks so I have the hope of a girl for 8 more weeks.

I am thinking of boys and girls names for the same reason - I might not need them but I sure as heck won't need them after this pregnancy so may as well enjoy thinking of them now.

You have just as much of a chance of pink as anyone, nobody said 100 % did they? I go through hopeful days and doom filled days too. It is normal - we are hormonally unstable LOL.

Nope everyone's been pretty clear that they can't make a guess, but some have leaned pink. Only one gave 60/40 blue lean. Gah!! Sooo frustrating!!! Pretty much 95% not a clue....but pinkish. Hmmm, we'll see :)

How do you feel about not fitting in the scan? Is it mixed emotions? Been thinking there's no way I could find out & not dh even with his blessing as I do not have a good poker face as he kind of mentioned doing that. :o

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[GeCon]

Ladies, I need some input please.

I made my appointment for my 1st "official" scan, which here has to be done between the 9th and 12th week. I had the choice between today and next Monday because after that my doctor will be on holiday.

I went for next Monday, when I will be 11+4, but I was really hoping for something after the 12 week mark for nub guessing, which before 12 weeks is not reliable at all.

So do I ring tomorrow and tell them we are going away and see if maybe another doctor can do the scan in my doctor's absence after 12 weeks or do I keep the 11+4 appointment?

BTW, it is not the NT scan. The NT scan is not offered as part of your routine scans here, you have to pay for that if you want it done.

This one is just the "1st" screening, which mainly involves measuring the baby, dating the pregnancy, ensuring baby is in the right location.

I have already had scans at 4 weeks and 6 weeks to ensure baby is in the right location, so I guess it is just about measurements and dating the pregnancy.

What would you do? I am tempted to make up some excuse why I can't make it next week and try to postpone...

[I Love Ladybugs]

Hello all!! I was able to read when we were at the ILs, but personals were out of the question. I am sure my ILs would have risen an eyebrow or two at the title of this site, although they sure asked when the big scan was several times and if we were finding out gender!

Gaining weight....like a lead balloon! I know that I need to reign in the poor choices now that m/s has seemed to be less of an issue. Oh, to be 14lbs under my "normal" weight :)

I spotted/bled red again....two times in the last couple of days and there has been no hanky panky that I can blame it on. I have an appt with my MD on Friday, so I am going to bring it up with her. It takes the stress of focusing on gender off....lol, I am just focusing on not seeing red.

Congrats on all the new BFPs!!!!!!

[Dreamofpink]

Just a very quick question if I may? Is it normal at 16 weeks to feel movement irregularly? Baby was doing a good jig on Fri but since then I've only felt one kick or so. My placenta is located fine and I felt baby almost everyday beforehand. We have had a busy weekend, maybe that's it? Tia!!

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[I Love Ladybugs]

Just a very quick question if I may? Is it normal at 16 weeks to feel movement irregularly? Baby was doing a good jig on Fri but since then I've only felt one kick or so. My placenta is located fine and I felt baby almost everyday beforehand. We have had a busy weekend, maybe that's it? Tia!!

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Other than spotting/bleeding this weekend, I could have written the same post!! Lol, this baby was moving all last week before we saw the ILs, but like both DH and I agree, the baby is small and is good at hide and go seek....reg. movement is not as likely as infrequently felt moves!! So glad you have felt movement!!!!!

[Soar]

I love ladybugs-I have a dr appt Friday too at 11am and am also still spotting! My dr reassured me it doesn't really matter the color but rather the amount. As long as it isn't heavy bleeding enough to fill a maxi pad and there is no cramping he said it is perfectly normal. Although blood is never relaxing to see. I have been spotting since week 4 and I am 11 weeks now. Joys of pregnancy! This dr appt is just the regular monthly visit so there won't be a scan but they will try to find the HB on the Doppler. I really hate those dopplers I hold my breath for the 10 minutes it takes them to find the HB!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I love ladybugs-I have a dr appt Friday too at 11am and am also still spotting! My dr reassured me it doesn't really matter the color but rather the amount. As long as it isn't heavy bleeding enough to fill a maxi pad and there is no cramping he said it is perfectly normal. Although blood is never relaxing to see. I have been spotting since week 4 and I am 11 weeks now. Joys of pregnancy! This dr appt is just the regular monthly visit so there won't be a scan but they will try to find the HB on the Doppler. I really hate those dopplers I hold my breath for the 10 minutes it takes them to find the HB!

Lol....about the holding breath! That is what I have done on both of the last time arounds with the Doppler...this little baby has been so different that the older two. I bled/spotted way heavier and more often with them....and I wonder if it has more to do with my heavier weight last time around ie, more estrogen floating in my fat body and now that my fat is gaining faster (seriously, love handle alert!!)...that I am spotting more easier in the 13-16 week mark. I stopped spotting with Ds2 at 10 weeks and Ds1 at 14 weeks, so seeing blood again today makes me feel stressed.

Hope that you have an amazing appt!!!!!

[Dreamofpink]

Other than spotting/bleeding this weekend, I could have written the same post!! Lol, this baby was moving all last week before we saw the ILs, but like both DH and I agree, the baby is small and is good at hide and go seek....reg. movement is not as likely as infrequently felt moves!! So glad you have felt movement!!!!!

Oh Ladybugs that's such a worry for you. I hope the spotting stops soon. Thanks for the support, took ds2 to the gp this afternoon as he's had a sore willy (turns out he has thrush-NO idea how he got that!) When I mentioned the movement issue to our gp he got the doppler out! He's a wonderful gp, I'll miss him when we move. Anyway it took him a while to find the heartbeat but when he did we could hear it superimposed over mine, how cool! Baby must be in a different position which accounts for lack of movement felt plus my bump looks a bit smaller to me too. At least baby's okay :)

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[meeks32]

Ladies with spotting I'm so sorry that must be such a stress. I have heard it can be completely normal and I think particularity if you had it in past pregnancies that resulted in healthy babies you can't definitely relax a bit but I imagine its shocking to see. I've never had it myself but my nurse friend tells me many women do and it can be totally normal.

Dream jeez I really hope the cm thing isn't indicative of gender because I don't have much at all. With ds1 and 2 I remember commenting to dh I had less than before pregnancy and all the websites say you should have more. I joked the mucus plug was plugging everything. This time I've had some but not a lot, although that's perhaps lag from LE diet, as I'm only 6 weeks and have only been off the diet a few weeks. I also found myself still eating similar foods to the diet so maybe that's more it.

I did notice a few of my testosterone hairs reappear just yesterday after a few weeks off diet. Hoping like hell that's just a pg sign for me, not a boy sign. Because with ds 1 and 2 I grew dark hair in the strangest places and it looks like I will this time too. Eeek

It can totally be normal to not feel movement all the time early on. I remember worrying about that with ds2 but being told its normal. Still makes you worry though! I know the feeling. I remember having days even late in his pregnancy where he didn't move much. But even now he's quite chilled. So maybe you just have an easy bub on board!! Ds1 never stopped moving inside or out! Lol.

[meeks32]

Hey i'm 6 weeks and seeing flashing zig zag lights across my vision, so bad I couldn't see much at all. Lasted 10-15 mins then I ate a banana and milk and slowly it stopped (not sure if it was a coincidence). I had trouble reading when i was trying to google it. Followed by headache mainly left side. Anyone had this?

[Soar]

Meeks- you could have low sugar levels making you dizzy which happens from time to time but sometimes flashing lights in your vision can be related to high blood pressure especially when pregnant. I had PIH (pregnancy induced hypertension) with both of the boys. Usually the flashing lights don't happen until the third trimester but its something to think about when you see you dr next. Just to bring it to their attention. Don't want to scare you but high blood pressure in pregnancy is not something to blow off. So just pay attention to it and see if it happens daily and note it to your doctor. Otherwise it could have just been a fluke and nothing more. Being preggo as you know is always making crazy things happen that we always want an answer for. I know I always do. Feel better!

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks - I agree, just pay attention if it continues. I would call my doc right away if it happens again, and if not, just mention it at next appt. if still worried.

Ladybugs - Sorry about the spotting! That can never be fun to see, even after you're feeling movement. But I agree...my doc has always said if blood is less than what fills a pad, as long as there's no cramping, it's probably nothing.

Soar - Due Feb. 26th...I am still super early in the game. Trying to be patient! Should get my beta results back tomorrow.

GeCon - Yes, I would totally delay the scan! All the better for nubsessing. Lol!

Everyone else, hi!

AFM - Didn't have MS today, but literally in the last 5 minutes, my stomach has started feeling yuck. Could have been something I ate, I guess! Tired today, cranky too, and sore boobs. Looking forward to hearing my beta results tomorrow!

[Tree]

Meeks are you ok!? It might have been a migraine as they can give you visual disturbance and aren't always painful. Prob worth mentioning to your doc, you don't want that to happen whilst your driving or something like that. Well, you don't want it to happen at all.

Ladies with the spotting, it's so nerve wracking! I had a bit this time and with ds2, I got in for early scans though. Hopefully it will stop soon. Kinda just sounds like that's your bodies way.

As for the cm, I have loads!! As you may recall from the 'am I peeing myself/are my waters leaking dilemma. :-) I had a lot with ds1 & 2 but def more this time I'd say.

I'm 15 weeks now and still weeing loads in the night!?? And still sooooo tired!!! Ahhhh!

[meeks32]

Lol tree yes I remember that debate ;-)

I'm ok now, thankfully mum is visiting for the last time before she's moving across the country and I won't see her until Christmas so I used her and had a nap. Actually, CHARLEE I have to say, after laughing (with you) at your falling asleep at work thing, I now understand, the last 3 days I've dozed off at home in the afternoon! Thankfully mum is here because with my 2 and 4 year old boys that is NOT safe to do. I didn't realise the tired would start so early! I remember it from ds1 and 2 but in my head when I remember its in the last trimester. All I remember from the start is being sick all the time.

One thing that's different for me now is I'm not (yet) grumpy. I think it's because I tried so hard and so long to get pg this time where the first two times were super fast (1 on the pill and the other the first month off it). This time after soooo long ttc and so many chemicals I am really appreciative of it even when I feel like death (frequently). Perhaps this was the journey I needed to go on to have more understanding about what others go through and the day to day reality of that.

I still have a cracking headache so I'm thinking it was a migraine starting (never had one before). Hope it doesn't happen again but I will mention to the ob just in case. It is concerning that nobody has taken my blood pressure at all yet. I remember the gp doing that last time when confirming bfp. But pre eclampsia usually only happens after 20 weeks so I doubt it's that. I will call my ob if it happens again just to be sure. Might ask my fertility specialist when I have my scan next Tuesday as well.

I am somewhat irrationally scared of ectopic. I'm terrified of finding out on Tuesday that all this has been for nothing, and they will tell me it has to be taken out then I loose out on another dream. I don't know why I'm so scared of this, it's not common and I have no history or symptoms of one, but I think I feel it's too good to be true, you know?

[Tree]

It's totally natural to feel cautious and nervous following a loss or losses. I'm sure everything is fine though! Not long now until you can have a bit of reassurance.

[Dreamofpink]

I am somewhat irrationally scared of ectopic. I'm terrified of finding out on Tuesday that all this has been for nothing, and they will tell me it has to be taken out then I loose out on another dream. I don't know why I'm so scared of this, it's not common and I have no history or symptoms of one, but I think I feel it's too good to be true, you know?

Meeks, <<HUGS>> that's exactly how I've been feeling this whole pg despite having no past history to justify those feelings. I think it's just from trying sooo long and it taking over your life for over a year. I find it hard to be positive at the moment as I had 18 months of constant disappointment before my bfp and it's rubbed off on me. Even yesterday when my gp was trying to find the heartbeat, it was going through my mind that it was still too good to be true. Urgh. It must be a self-preservation thing.

As for the headaches, they sound horrid. Definitely tell your ob when you see him. I had headaches this time too, but nothing like you've described. You're right PET only comes on after 20 weeks but it is very rare for it to come on that early. It is believed to be a fault with how the placenta has implanted so that's why you won't get it in the first trimester. That's also why I'm on daily low-dose aspirin to help the implantation and keep the blood flowing well. It's only effective for those who've suffered from it before 32 weeks but they're not sure why. Still it got ds2 to full-term and hopefully this one too. :)

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[aftmjt]

I'm 17 weeks now with my fourth and still not felt baby move do you think all is ok, I haven't even heard hb yet as at 12 weeks midwife couldn't find it

[Tree]

15 weeks and not felt baby move. Pretty sure it wasn't until about 18 weeks I felt them before.

[meeks32]

My girlfriend who is ahead of me only felt hers move at 18 weeks and even then only a flutter here and there. I just think everything is different for everyone. Apparently having a placenta on the front can cause the difficulty feeling and hearing heartbeat and movements.

I would make an appt to check though, just to be sure the hb is there this time.

[meeks32]

Meeks, <<HUGS>> that's exactly how I've been feeling this whole pg despite having no past history to justify those feelings. I think it's just from trying sooo long and it taking over your life for over a year. I find it hard to be positive at the moment as I had 18 months of constant disappointment before my bfp and it's rubbed off on me. Even yesterday when my gp was trying to find the heartbeat, it was going through my mind that it was still too good to be true. Urgh. It must be a self-preservation thing.

As for the headaches, they sound horrid. Definitely tell your ob when you see him. I had headaches this time too, but nothing like you've described. You're right PET only comes on after 20 weeks but it is very rare for it to come on that early. It is believed to be a fault with how the placenta has implanted so that's why you won't get it in the first trimester. That's also why I'm on daily low-dose aspirin to help the implantation and keep the blood flowing well. It's only effective for those who've suffered from it before 32 weeks but they're not sure why. Still it got ds2 to full-term and hopefully this one too. :)

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Dream our journeys have been so similar I feel like you really get it. I have had no previous losses before ttc #3 so I don't really have much reason to feel this way 6 weeks in (the chemicals never even made it much past my period due date) but I do feel like you said, it's been so hard I'm terrified to have to start again. Plus, to be honest, I am SO much nicer to be around when I'm not dieting. In fact, I think I may gain more this pregnancy than ever before because I started out 4kg less than my prior conception weight I think in some way my body is trying to make up for it. I don't seem to want much during the day, and can't stomach a large breakfast or lunch but have been having two servings of dinner! Not normal for me at all. Before LE I used to snack small healthy all the time, but never two serves of dinner!

I am also deathly thirsty all the time!

This week is going to be so long!! Is it next Tuesday yet??

Who has their nub or gender scan next and when?

[3boys]

My ultrasound is tomorrow!! Been worrying about it loads so have been trying to keep busy around the house!

[afy]

3boys I can Imagine how nerve racking it must be!! Is this your private ultrasound scan??

Unfortunately I won't be getting a 12week scan now, because I ws given an early ultrasound, I really wanted a 12week one :( . Would of loved nub guessing.

[3boys]

No afy its my NT scan (the hospital are just really late giving it to me). I had a private scan at 8 weeks but since then nothing.

This was the time my last baby died so I've had a tough week which is why I haven't been on much.

Sorry you won't be getting a 12 week scan! Will you pay for a gender scan or wait until 21 weeks?

[afy]

I hope everything gets better for you.. It's not easy being pregnant and having to face so many other difficulties.

Well Ive booked a private gender scan for 17weeks, and I think they'll be giving me an anatomy scan at 21. I couldn't wait so went ahead and booked the gender scan, I was thinking if there was any way I could somehow make them give me a NT scan.

[afy]

I hope everything gets better for you.. It's not easy being pregnant and having to face so many other difficulties.
When will you be having your anatomy scan?

Well Ive booked a private gender scan for 17weeks, and I think they'll be giving me an anatomy scan at 21. I couldn't wait so went ahead and booked the gender scan, I was thinking if there was any way I could somehow make them give me a NT scan.

[I Love Ladybugs]

No afy its my NT scan (the hospital are just really late giving it to me). I had a private scan at 8 weeks but since then nothing.

This was the time my last baby died so I've had a tough week which is why I haven't been on much.

Sorry you won't be getting a 12 week scan! Will you pay for a gender scan or wait until 21 weeks?

((((hugs)))) over and over...you have been through so much...and I hope this little bub is a sweet take home baby!!!

[Soar]

3boys-I was wondering where you were! Glad to hear that you are getting your scan. Although it will be nerve racking till then once you see all is well you will have passed a huge milestone for you and baby! Will say a prayer that everything goes well and baby is bouncing all around! :-)

Meeks-sounds like you can have a nice relaxing week with your mom there! That's awesome!

Myrainbowbaby-glad ms isn't to bad!

Dr appt is Friday and I can't wait! Hurry up Friday! We have a family reunion on Saturday so we are going to announce to everyone that 3.0 is on the way! As far as ms it's definitely getting much better. Still dry heaving (gross I know) in the morning but once I eat some eggs I am pretty good to go!

[myrainbowgirl]

Good morning, ladies!

3boys - Good luck at your NT scan! Odds are great that baby is totally fine...and just think, you'll get to nubsess soon! :)

Meeks - Ugh on the migraine! Of course I've had headaches, but never a migraine...they sound horrible. Feel better soon!

Re CM - I have been super dry! I had a decent amount of CM with all the boys. Hoping it's a good sign for me. I think estrogen = CM, so I'm thinking maybe my progesterone is higher this go round. I think I read somewhere that a higher level of progesterone, along with higher HcG may mean girl? I don't even have my numbers back, but hope to hear back today. Although, with DS3, my first beta was in the 500's (15 dpo). So probably nothing to it! Anyone heard of the progesterone link?

[3boys]

Thank you everyone. I'm hoping that after tomorrow I will feel much better.

I'm convinced I'm going to see a willy though!

[myrainbowgirl]

Hi ladies,
Got my numbers back:

15 dpo - hcg 297, p4 45.4
19 dpo - hcg 2427, p4 not repeated

I'm happy with these numbers! Yay for a healthy bean (so far)!

Curious...did any of you have progesterone this high with your boys? I didn't, and was wondering if there could be a connection with higher progesterone and a baby girl? My numbers with the others were DS1: 24, DS2: 27, DS3: 32. I know I'm grasping at straws, but since p4 was noticeably higher this time, I thought I'd ask what your experiences were. :)

[3boys]

Great numbers myrainbow. Here they don't test numbers so I can't help on the progesterone question sorry.

My scan is at 2.20 (uk) going out shopping now to make the time go faster!

[meeks32]

Great hcg rainbow! I don't know re progesterone, I wasn't tested for that and didn't even have a follow up hcg to check rise. Wish I did! They did 'full blood work' on me and I can't see progesterone listed anywhere.

[Tree]

3boys, how did the scan go!? Do you have a scan we can nub guess!?? X

[Soar]

3boys-thinking about you! Hoping the scan was fun!

Rainbow-great numbers!!!!

[3boys]

Not great news from me. Baby had a high nuchal. Got scanned twice. Waiting for the results from the blood test to see my actual odds but the doctor was very pessimistic. mentioned about all the tisomys and the higher chance of congenital heart defects!. Said they will ring me and then we will decide whether to have an amino or not. :(

I'm doomed. I don't produce healthy children any more!

[Tree]

I've got hardly any battery so will post properly when I'm back. I know lots about this and it's not necessarily a problem at all. What's the nt measurement and crl? Will post properly in half an hour or so. Please don't worry!! X

[3boys]

Thanks tree! the CRL was 77.3 mm and nuchal was 3.9

[Soar]

3boys-I'm so sorry and sad to hear about your scan. But it sounds like Tree may have a wealth of knowledge and an amnio and blood test can tell you way more than a scan I would imagine, and the more knowledge you have the better. Take one step at a time. I know that's much easier said than done. Of course we are all here for you. Update when you can. Saying a prayer for your sweet baby.

[Huds]

Not great news from me. Baby had a high nuchal. Got scanned twice. Waiting for the results from the blood test to see my actual odds but the doctor was very pessimistic. mentioned about all the tisomys and the higher chance of congenital heart defects!. Said they will ring me and then we will decide whether to have an amino or not. :(

I'm doomed. I don't produce healthy children any more!

Sorry to hear this 3boys. I hope everythings works out ok for u! Try not to worry When will they phone u with the blood test results. I had my nt scan today aswel

[Smiley13]

3boys-so sorry to hear about your scan but from what I've read there are a lot of false positives on NT scans. Did you also get blood work?

rainbow- I have heard high progesterone correlates more with multiples than with gender. Have you have an ultrasound?

Haven't been on in awhile as I've been feeling really lousy:( I've never been so tired in all my life!

[Tree]

Hi 3boys, I'm not a fountain of knowledge or anything... Just been through this a few times and so have done loads of research!!
A large nt is just one marker for chromosome issues, likewise heart issues BUT does not necessarily mean either. I'm having a complete mental block but there is something that can cause a large neck measurement that is totally harmless and just resolves. Some babies, with measurements much much bigger than yours are born with a bit of floppy skin at the back of the neck don't worry it goes away) without any issues at all!
As for cvs and amnio its just worth mentioning that there is a non invasive blood test now available in the uk... It's horrendously expensive £500 for blood test and £150 for detailed scan, but its accurate and carries no risk to the baby. It's called the Harmony test. Where in the UK are you?
Another option you have is to go for a more detailed scan where they can look for things like the nasal none and blood flow etc... By doing this you get a better idea of odds.
When do you get your blood results?

[black&gold]

3boys, I'm so sorry to hear about your scan. I cancelled mine a few days before because I knew I'd probably cause a miscarriage with worry if I got a positive. I've had so much anxiety this pregnancy it's unreal. When I was trying to make my decision about doing it or not I read COUNTLESS stories of NT measurements from 4-6mm all ending up with healthy babies. It can be such a scare, and the unknown is the worst. I really hope your bloodtest results come back perfect and that everything is fine. I haven't had a single scan yet at 16 weeks and am terrified for my 20 weeks scan. Making babies is seriously stressful! We are here for you to vent, and know that you aren't alone in your fear or worry! xo

[3boys]

Not sure when they will phone me? Considering it was late afternoon the bloods were taken, its probably unlikely that I will hear anything until at least Monday. They said they generally don't ring on Fridays with bad news because there is nothing they can do over the weekend.

I'm in limbo. If the odds are still high with the bloods, I will look into the harmony test (I live in Kent) but will probably have the amino?? I don't know. My heads all over the place. The worst part is I will still have to wait for the anomaly scan to rule out heart defects etc.

So instead of putting my mind at rest this scan has left me down and scared. I honestly wish I'd never gone and I was still blissfully ignorant. I just want to go to sleep and not wake up until the results are in.

Just looked at my NT results for the babe I lost at 13 weeks and his Nuchal was 0.9 so that was a fantastic result.I just can't win!

Does anyone know what exactly the blood work tests for? They tried to explain but I was crying! Thought I heard something about baby's protein emitted??? Even with a nuchal that high can the bloods really bring my odds down to a reasonable level?

[Tree]

The bloods show the levels of hcg and papp a, two hormones. Mine have always been rubbish so I'm also familiar with them... If they are bad they can be a marker for chromosome issue, placenta issue or nothing at all!!

The nhs typically only check the two bloods and the neck measurement so either way they prob won't dramatically effect odds. That's why it's worth going to have the scan with more details... They can then give you an adjusted risk based on far more factors!! Can you get to London? The fetal medical centre is where the professor who came up with this scan practices and they are the best there!!

I know it's next to impossible, but try not to worry. It really could be absolutely nothing, and there is a good chance that's the case!

[grace03]

3 boys I'm sorry you have had a scary scan and pray your results come back normal xx

I have my private gender scan in 4 hours I have been a wreck this week and it all comes down to this ... My last chance at a daughter which of course sounds even more selfish when I am lucky to have waist appears to he a healthy bub but I can't help it :(

Ill update later this afternoon hopefully they can tell at 16 weeks and I won't have to wait till 20 weeks . I will only believe a boy result and will double confirm at 20 if they say girl ????

Hope you can relax a bit over the weekend 3 boys maybe go on a nice family outing to distract you xxxx

[myrainbowgirl]

3boys - I am so incredibly sorry for the results you got on your scan. I can imagine how scary that is. As Tree and Msblakely said, though, there are lots of people out there with positive scans whose babies are perfectly healthy. Will pray for you and your little sweet pea!

Smiley - Rest up...hope you feel better soon! I think I heard that about multiples, too. Aaahh!! My first checkup is July 18th (I'll be 8 wks). I guess we'll see then! :)

Grace - Update? :)

[Soar]

Grace-any news yet????

[Soar]

3boys-Hope you are able to make the time pass a little for the next couple of days. I know when I am anxious and worries the best thing for me is to stay really really busy. I can't imagine but hoping you can pass the time till you get some more answers. Still praying!

[grace03]

Still hour and half till my scan , I'm just thinking its a formality to confirm boy this is helping me I think ?

Ill update later today thanks for caring xx

[I Love Ladybugs]

Still hour and half till my scan , I'm just thinking its a formality to confirm boy this is helping me I think ?

Ill update later today thanks for caring xx
Still one more hour to think pink!!!! Lol, that is how I am feeling about my scan that is just over 3 weeks away.....have fun seeing your little baby!

3boys.....I know that our system is similar for making one worry over weekends especially when you wish that they would just put a rush on the bloodwork. Amnio is @16 weeks, or would they do it sooner?? I hope for a super busy weekend that keeps both your mind and body occupied. (((hugs)))

[black&gold]

3boys - I really know nothing accept from what I've read on other forums of other peoples experiences. I think if bloods are totally fine and super low risk, I do think it helps reduce your risk even though the NT was high. I think it's the combo of the two that makes the doctors go really crazy - and even then still everything can be TOTALLY normal! I'm not sure what your risk would be considering your NT measurement and age - did they even give you that result? Although I've never had a bad NT scan result, at my anatomy scan for DS2 he had choroid plexus cysts on his brain which are a marker for Trisomy 18. I had to wait 2 weeks for a detailed scan, and honestly... probably the worst 2 weeks i've experienced (aside from when they thought DS2 potentially had a brain tumour from accelerated head growth at 6 months and I was waiting on MRI results - see... I know ALL about the worry these babies cause, probably why I am traumatized this pregnancy!) It is such a hard thing to go through and I remember it like it was yesterday. DS2 is a perfectly healthy 20 month old and neither of these scares ended up being an issue. For me what helps is to talk to my DH about worst case scenario, and what are plan would be.. how we'd deal with the situation so that I feel like I have some sort of plan. Once I know how we'd move forward and how our family would deal with the situation at hand it makes things *slightly* easier. (I know this might sound counter-productive, but for me who probably has undiagnosed anxiety issues in general I find it helps me know that whatever happens we can get through it! So worst case scenario doesn't seem so bad and scary after all) I am so sure you will be fine and everything will end up just being another false positive, but we are all here for you to talk and vent! xo

[meeks32]

3boys, I am so sorry this is happening to you, I will be waiting for your blood results with baited breath. Makes the whole gender stress seem obsolete doesn't it? A good reality check for us all. Not that gender isn't important, it just is easy for us to get so swept away in it that we forget what's truly important: health.

Now I have two separate girlfriends who both conceived babies after 35 and had their NT and bloods both come back super high risk. But that's the thing, a high result is a high risk, not a diagnosis. They then had the amino (needle to get out some of the fluid in your stomach that surrounds baby) and that was tested (this is a pretty definitive test) and BOTH came back completely normal and went on to have healthy normal children (one had a boy and one girl). I have no other experience with this test but those are real life friends so I tend to trust that over google scary stories.

If there is now a test that allows you to avoid the amino and is reliable, that would be worth every cent, just check how reliable it is and if it can be done earlier or at the same time as amino. I assume if its a blood test it can be done immediately. When my girlfriends had their amnio's there was no alternative and both said it wasn't something you would choose if there was an alternative.

Good luck, I'll be waiting to hear.

[grace03]

I'm having my 4 th boy I am beyond crushed , I know he will be beautiful but I'm so mad that people can have one or some of each without even trying or caring !
I didn't sway we weren't trying yet I am blessed to be pregnant again however today I feel like I am being punished ?? Ill be ok eventually but today really sux :(

[Tree]

The harmony test can be done at anytime (so you could do it now), its 99% or higher. As I said before a more detailed scan could also give more info and potentially be a great comfort.

I wish I could remember the name of the harmless collection of water behind the neck... Will update as soon as it comes into my head!!

Grace, congratulations on another healthy little boy. Sorry you didn't hear girl!! I hope that you are alright and the gender disappointment passes soon. I can assure you as soon as he is here you'll think you couldn't imagine anyone else and wouldn't trade him for a million girls! Thinking of you. X

[meeks32]

I'm having my 4 th boy I am beyond crushed , I know he will be beautiful but I'm so mad that people can have one or some of each without even trying or caring !
I didn't sway we weren't trying yet I am blessed to be pregnant again however today I feel like I am being punished ?? Ill be ok eventually but today really sux :(

So sorry grace this will be our last too so I can imagine all too well how that news would feel. It's not fair, and I know you will come to love this boy and what he brings to your family but that doesn't make it any easier right now. Xxx

[3boys]

So sorry grace you didn't hear girl. You certainly don't need to apologise to me about worrying about gender. Take some time, let yourself cry for the unfairness of it all. Because it does see unfair (I know I did when I found out I was pregnant with my fourth boy) I hope you feel better soon. And congratulations on a healthy little boy x

[3boys]

I will see what the blood test results are and go from there. I would take the harmony test today if I had a spare £700 lying around. If the bloods are bad, I will probably go for it. It's not like I haven't got to wait anyway I suppose we won't know for sure how things are until the 20 week anomaly scan even if he is trisomy free.

[I Love Ladybugs]

3boys.....I wish I could accelerate the time so that you would have results right now. ((((hugs)))) This is so not fair for you....

Grace....I wish that you would have heard girl, but I bet this new little guy is going to be one little wonderful cutie too!

[myrainbowgirl]

3boys - There's a test here in the US called the MaterniT21, a blood test I believe that can be done at your stage of pregnancy, that checks for trisomies but as an added bonus you can find out gender. Basically, the fetal DNA is taken out of the mother's blood, so non-invasive. Not sure if it's in your area or not, and how much it costs, but 2 friends of a friend had this done (very recently) with all their 12-week bloodwork. Praying for peace for you during this time of uncertainty!

Grace - I am sooooo sorry you didn't hear girl. :( I would be crushed too. Praying this sweet baby boy steals your heart like no other!

[3boys]

Myrainbow, I think the hormony test we have been referring to here in the UK is the same as the materniT21 xx

[Tree]

Yes it's the same test I believe!

Ok has anyone's toddler ever had slapped cheek disease? I'm really worried my toddler has got it. One of his cheeks has got some red blobs on that have intensified in colour as the day has gone on, also a few blobs on his chin... Is this how it starts does anyone know? Obviously it's potentially very dangerous in pregnancy so I'm quite worried!

[Soar]

3boys-so after you get the blood results which will be given to you Monday. Will you have to wait 7 more weeks for the anatomy scan to get confirmation of trisomys? 700 sounds crazy expensive. I totally think that's terrible it costs that much. Is there any other clinic that could offer something similar at a discounted rate if its bc of health risks? Forgive me for not being in the know of the NHS. Here in the states if you have markers that need to be looked at they have to give you the scan bc it puts a higher risk on mom and baby. I can't remember exactly what it's called but it costs 1/2 the price when the situation arises. Obviously they don't advertise it bc they don't want people taking advantage but this service is offered at my OBGYN office and its a standard office. He isn't a high risk doctor. So maybe your office might have this service but you have to know about and ask for it for them to give it to you. Hope that just made sense.

Grace-Congrats on your son!!! I totally understand your disappointment so don't feel alone! Of course he will be the apple of your eye when he is born but it stings right now and I totally understand! Vent here if you need to!

As for me, tomorrow is my 12 week appt! I am so nervouse and I just want them to find the HB quick! Please have a good Doppler dr office please!!! Today I had a play date for my youngest son and the mom and I both have 2 sons and she totally started talking about GD with her 2nd son and we totally talked it out and I told her about the LE diet and she was eating all the info up. It really felt good to be able to talk about it with someone. We both agreed this wouldn't t be discussed amongst anyone else and that we will both be grateful for healthy babies but I have to say I really enjoyed being able to talk about really wanting a daughter. She totally got it and said they would be trying in the fall for their third and she will be trying for a girl. It's so interesting how some people are put in your life at the right moment. I have really been struggling with hearing its a 3rd boy again and then being able to discuss it with someone else who totally has the same desire really felt really therapeutic. I just wanted to say that I think a desire for a certain gender is way more common than I once thought. And I am glad this forum exists. It's so important to be able to get things off your chest and have people listen so you don't feel so crazy! There's a lot to having a community and this is a great place.

[oxox2013]

Grace- I am so sorry that you are feeling crushed right now. Really hoping things get better sooner rather than later for you! I can only imagine how you must feel :(

3boys, I am also sorry you are dealing with all of these things! I am going to hope this weekend flies by for you and Monday brings great news!

[3boys]

I'm not sure they will call Monday! They said five working days and it was late Wednesday I had the bloods done. No soar i will not have to wait until 20 weeks if there is a problem I'm assuming I will have a meeting with the genetics counsellor this week or next and go from there. I will be offered the amino (probably regardless of the blood results as the NT was big) but it all depends on the blood tests whether I will consider it or not. I've had two miscarriages in a row and I know it has a miscarriage risk. I'm really worried about trisomy 13 and 18 (more so than 21) and just praying the bloods come back ok. Although 3.9 mm is high I have seen worse that turn out ok and have no genetic defects. But what I meant by having to wait for the anomaly scan is that lots of heart defects can't be picked up until 20 weeks so even if the results are ok for the trisomy's I won't be completely out of the woods. Hope this makes sense a bit??? I don't have any real answers and limited information just second guessing everything right now.

[Mrs_P]

sorry to jump in girls - 3boys my nucuael with ds3 was 3.9 they weren't worried they said it wasn't that high and with my age and lack of history he'd be fine - bloods came back low risk and i heard nothing more of it, he's fine. That is part of the reason i chose a cvs with this one - i'd looked into it more after his birth when someone passed a comment about it and realised it was really quite high but at the time no-one seemed too bothered with it. He had a funny nose too which i think can be another marker (wide nose) and when he came out he looked like a boxer it was that thick but it settled soon after birth. Really hope things work out for you

[3boys]

Thanks Mrs P :) that's given me some hope. I have found lots of encouraging story's and don't think we can make any assumptions until the blood results are in. They said at my hospital that it used to be up to 3mm that was considered ok (this would only put my 0.9 over that!) but they have changed it in the last year to be 2.5mm as things were being missed but I happen to know at most hospitals 3mm is still ok.

I don't think it was handled very well at the hospital and that in itself made me come away feeling worse! Why are doctors always so pessimistic!

[Mrs_P]

I was told 3mm was the cut off but my age and other factors would bring the risks down and that it wasn't that high enough to be concerned about

[Smiley13]

3 boys-praying you hear good news very soon! Hugs:)

[Smiley13]

Grace-sorry you didn't hear girl. It's ok to be disappointed. Even though health is most important all of us have a desire for a certain gender. Take some time for yourself-maybe a little retail therapy:) I agree that it's not fair at all that some people get both genders without trying at all! God has a reason he sent this sweet baby boy to you!

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - That's great that you were able to vent to someone! Of my close friends (here, not back home), they all have at least 1 girl. I have two other friends with 2 boys each, but they are happy to be done. Most of my friends back home have at least 1 girl as well. In fact, several had 2 boys, then a girl! My sister and another friend back home have 3 boys, and while I know my sister wanted a girl and still has "twinges" as she calls it, she has moved on with her life and is enjoying them very much. The friend is perfectly happy with her 3 boys, and has said she doesn't feel like she's missing out on anything. Soooo....I don't really feel like there's anyone in my boat that I can really express my GD to. So this site has been awesome! So happy you were able to get some of those feelings out. :) Excited for your scan tomorrow! Are you planning to post a nub shot??

3boys - Sounds like you're maybe feeling somewhat better now...I know you are still in limbo, but I am glad you are reading some reassuring stories. Praying for perfect health for that sweet little baby of yours!

[Soar]

Rainbow-that's awesome you have a couple of friends that have 2 boys and then a girl! That gives you and me hope! I won't get a scan for nub shots tomorrow. They only do the anatomy scan at 20 weeks. Tomorrow will just be a Doppler reading and measuring my tummy and that's it. Nothing to exciting but I'm still nervous. I just want to hear the HB and then I will be fine! Appt is at 11am. :-)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Rainbow-that's awesome you have a couple of friends that have 2 boys and then a girl! That gives you and me hope! I won't get a scan for nub shots tomorrow. They only do the anatomy scan at 20 weeks. Tomorrow will just be a Doppler reading and measuring my tummy and that's it. Nothing to exciting but I'm still nervous. I just want to hear the HB and then I will be fine! Appt is at 11am. :-)

Have fun at your appt.....same thing for me tomorrow! These appts are exciting...listening to my baby is hearing a little bit of heaven. It is truely the second best part of pregnancy....I love movement first, then heartbeat...then the big belly!!!

Myrainbowgirl....I feel your pain, in my group of pals I am the only one now without a daughter...I can see this sweet little bundle with dark hair, ladybug sleeper, but she is just out of reach. (((hugs)))

3boys.....(((((((hugs)))))) and more of them! I wish that your worries could melt away and that this weekend moves by quickly so that you have your results. ((((((hugs)))))

[zebaniee]

I have had my scan and posted nub shots! They can be seen here if you want to take a guess - http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ultrasound-gender-prediction/31332-13-week-nub-pics-can-you-guess.html I have no idea if they are clear enough or not.

They are now predicting my due date will be two days earlier. In the grand scheme of things it isn't that much but I must say the closer to Christmas it gets the more I feel stressed. It would be awful to be in hospital on Christmas day (if the baby comes early that is).

[Smiley13]

For you ladies who have gotten good nub shots did you ask for one or did you just get lucky enough to get one? I found my ultrasounds from my boys and neither one has a nub shot on it. Just curious if you ladies asked specifically for that. I have my ultrasound in a few weeks and I will be 13+1 and am hoping to get a good peek but I don't want to get a weird look when I ask for it LOL.

[Tree]

I asked if they had heard of nub theory, when she looked confused I said the angle of the genital tube and she looked at it...

[Soar]

So just got back from my appt. They couldn't find the HB on the Doppler so the dr checked me and then tried to find it again and still couldn't so they got me a scan and found that sweet HB (163) immediately....and the tech said I am measuring 11 weeks 3 days. I did get a picture of the baby but I know the 11th week is not a reliable guess so no nub shot for me. Ever though by my calendar I am 12 weeks tomorrow. I know either way today is still in the 11th week but I guess this is God's way of saying don't stress on a nub it is what it is and you will find out soon enough. I do have to say that when they couldn't find the HB I was a hot mess! The dr was totally calm and told me he felt good everything was fine but I think he rushed me into the scan room bc I was really getting upset that something was wrong and as much as he was reassuring me he realized I needed to see the baby. So thankful he did! :-)

Anyhow I keep looking at the picture thinking maybe there is a nub but there definitely isn't and I need to be thankful that there was a HB at all! Wowza this
Appt was stressful! I'm off to eat a brownie now! :-)

[Tree]

Soar, that must have been crazy stressful but very glad you got to see bubs!!

Hope you've posted your pic anyway! :-)

[meeks32]

Soar omg I would have been panicking too. I'm already worried I won't hear one at my 7 week scan on Tuesday. I'm so glad he got you in for a scan so you could have that confirmation and relax. Perhaps your placenta is on front making a bit of a buffer for the Doppler things?

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar--OMG, so glad they did a scan for you! I would have been a hot mess, too!!! Sweet baby, so glad she/he is fine!

Ladybugs - Thanks for your encouragement. Yeah, it's tough...I know you understand! I hope and pray we both get our sweet baby girls soon!! How did your appt. go?

[Ashmeaquestion]

Smiley13-
I asked my doc if he could tell gender at 13 weeks and he found it right away. I didn't even mention the Nub Theory or anything I had heard, but he zoomed into the nub and starting explaining right away that boys usually point up and girls point down. He gave me an 80% chance of having a girl. I guess this is not just a theory in the medical world, but just something not guessed upon often due to the large margin of error. :wink:

[grace03]

Soar that would have been scary I couldn't get a hb on the Doppler at 10 weeks but midwife wasn't concerned so I had to wait for my 12 week scan ..

I am a right old mess I knew I would feel sad finding out its my 4 th boy but I havent stopped crying since the afternoon of my scan , I'm to the point ill probably have to get some kind of happy pills that are safe in pregnancy if I keep going :( I love this little boy but if there was a girl twin hiding in there I would be so fricking happy !
Amazingly my all day sickness has subsided thank god although food still tastes not as appealing as before .
Does anyone else feel hungry still but their mouth won't cooperate after a few bites ???

On a happier note movement is quite often already and even hubby felt a ' bump
When hand on my tummy this morning :)

[Soar]

Grace- ((((((hugs))))) give yourself time it's only been a couple of days since you found out. I imagine if we find that this one is a boy it will take some time to get adjusted to that too. Maybe a little retail therapy would help this weekend? Also sometimes it's nice to just write it out and then see how you feel after a couple of entries. I know it always helps me to get it out thru talking or writing. You are going to be an awesome mom to this sweet little guy and right now you have every right to grieve. It's part of the process. Feel free to vent we all totally get it! ((((HuGs))))) (((((Hugs))))))

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....I am happy to hear that your appt went well, despite the scare...our babies just like to hide out and scare us!!!! Pix would be wonderful to see....I bet you have one cute baby in there!

Myrainbowgirl....I do hope that there is lots of pink in this thread...and all our blue dust can be given to those who are awishing for their little men!

Grace03....I know that despite saying I am good with 3 boys, I know that in the initial days, I will cry. Being honest, I never envisioned myself not having a girl, but as the scan draws near, I know that could be part of my story. But both my boys have been so amazing lately that I know a third would be just another sweet little bundle to love!! I do plan on "coping" with retail therapy....DH knows that he will be out some cash for some new threads if this is indeed our third sone...and way more money if we hear pink!!!

Today's appt....this sweet baby is still playing hide and go seek! Could not hear the heartbeat for a little while, but thankfully s/he did give some steady heartbeats to make this mommy relax. So yesterday night, I stepped on a screw in the shed...I hobbled all day at work and am just relieved to be at home tonight with my feet up! Lucky my tetnus (sp?) shot was up to date!!!

Zebaniee....I do hope for your sake that your little bub ignores Christmas Day as a potential bday! I don't think that staying in the hospital at Christmas could be that much fun....lol, I had my 1 hour glucose test with DS2 on Christmas eve....it was so quiet in the hospital.

Meeks....just a couple of more days for your appt!!! Can't wait to hear all the details!!!

[Soar]

Ladybugs-so sorry to hear about your foot! That had to hurt! You need a pedicure to feel better I think! Glad you heard the HB too! Yay for sneaky babies but geez they could be a little less sneaky for mommies sake, right?!?!

Anyone else having a very strong craving for something all the time? I have been drinking chocolate milk and eating bite size chocolate covered coconut and I just made another batch of brownies! Once the boys go down I find myself unable to control the urge to eat it all! Yikes! Please tell me someone else has a craving as strong as I do!

Also anyone else noticing acne in places other than your face? I have terrible acne on my back. Could this be from the chocolate? I've never had this before? Or maybe my skin is all the sudden allergic to my cocoa butter shower gel? So odd and it really looks terrible. My DH was like do you have a rash on your back? My response "easy there, this is the joys of pregnancy this go around and no it's not a rash!" :-/

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....I think that my breakouts are due to the high amount of sugar that I have ingested this time around and just how my hormones are responding. Lol, I craved grapefruit with both boys, but I can't seem to want it this go around....biggest desire on a steady basis has been for bread and butter pickles.

My toes were painted a nice hot pink, and I am thinking that prior to my u/s I will repaint them this cheery hue! My toes right now are so swollen that I can't even feel them :)

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - No major cravings so far...chocolate would be awesome!! I love chocolate! Although, weirdly, today at the grocery store I went to pick out an ice cream flavor, and I really, really wanted to try a blueberry cheesecake variety of the brand I always buy. I NEVER buy anything other than some sort of chocolate ice cream or vanilla with chocolate mix-ins. Too funny! Apparently this baby likes fruit!! Oh, and re: acne...I had yucky acne on my upper back before getting pg, and now it seems to be clearing up. Face is slightly better, too, but neither is perfect.

Ladybugs - Glad you got to hear your little sweet pea, and that everything looks good! You're so close to finding out...yay!!! Ugh on your foot! That must hurt terribly! I stepped on a piece of glass that ended up breaking and partially getting stuck in my foot several months ago. It was so painful! Feel better soon.

AFM - I am soooo exhausted. Been that way for a few days now. Don't remember quite being this tired with the others...I know I was tired, but seriously, today I was driving to the grocery store about 12:30 pm (with all my boys in the car!), and I was thinking I better wake up so I can drive safely! OMG, I so want to take a nap every afternoon, but other things have greater priority, and it hasn't happened yet. Speaking of that, I need to go to bed. Lol!

[zebaniee]

Interesting, I had a craving for cheesecake today while shopping as well!

I noticed I have been reaching for milk and milo/nesquick. It might be a sign I need to eat more cheese and yoghurt for calcium?

I asked about the nub theory during my scan, the lady basically said it was rubbish and if she guessed using the theory nearly all the babies would be girls. She said that it might be around 60% accurate.

I used a photo from my scan. It is quite blurry though as they were only measuring for size so I am not sure how accurate my nub guesses will be.

[Tree]

This is what worries me (stops me getting carried away about all the girl guesses I've had...), to me most nubs look girlie. And if they can keep rising until 13 weeks 5 days (someone wrote that on a post) then it really does leave things as a 'guess' at the time, which could change with a different shot on a different day.
Sometimes, it's really obvious - very up or very down... But personally the inbetweeners have me mainly guessing girl.
That being said, most of my guesses (that I know of so far) have been right.

[3boys]

Grace, I'm sorry to hear you are having a hard time still but don't be too hard on yourself. I can totally relate and even after everything that I'm going through with the risk to bubs I will still cry my eyes out if its a boy! It's a loss of a dream regardless of how much you will love him. Let yourself cry and I agree... Shop shop shop.

Soar, I have a major spot breakout on my back this pregnancy. And I haven't been able to eat sweet things. Having said that I have had lots of carbs and they do the same. It's really gross.

Hope everyone else is ok? sorry for no personals my head is still not quite with it.

AFM, every day is feeling like a year!

[meeks32]

Well after loosing so much on LE I am still not up to the weight I was when I conceived ds 1 and 2, BUT I have gained 2.5kg from the weight I was when I ovulated! Bit scared of how much I'll gain this time. I am off a lot of foods but not as sick as I was with ds1 and 2, now I have the protein tip for MS that's helped sooo much. With ds1 and 2 I lost 3-4kg in the first trimester due to being so sick, but now I already feel like a muffin top and its totally silly given I'm still my lowest weight in ages. Funny how your body perception changes with loosing weight.

Initially I had horrible skin around the week of my pos preg test but its now cleared up apart from the odd huge spot. With ds1 and 2 I had TERRIBLE skin the whole pregnancy, especially first trimester, like someone else mentioned, like a rash of pimples on my back and also on my chest and face. This time there is very little. Maybe that's LE time working for me and its still coming when I've been eating normal for long enough.

I already have the stupid 'I'm so tired I need a nap' but then at night 'so tired but keep waking up and can't get back to sleep' thing. It's so counter-productive!!

I will definitely post any pics I get on Tuesday. Very excited. Also slightly terrified of something being wrong. So so so glad I don't have to wait til 12 weeks for my first scan, in the past that was fine but after so long ttc I feel like this pregnancy is taking forever and feel like I can't believe it's real, like somebody will say "oh no we got it all wrong, there is nothing in there".

[3boys]

Meeks when you've suffered losses 12 weeks is way too long to wait. I would have gone insane if I hadn't seen baby at 8 weeks like I did and even after that Im still insane lol. Can't wait to see pics of your little jelly bean!!

[fish2012]

meeks i'd missed you bfp congraturaltions hun

[Soar]

We had our family reunion yesterday and told everyone we are pregnant! Everyone was surprised and gave the token comment "it better be a girl! Are you guys hoping for a girl? What will you do with 3 boys?

So we are for sure NOT posting on fb that we are expecting! Those comments really make me so mad. Obviously no one knows we swayed but geez people! Anyway that was my Saturday. I'm glad they know but the comments burned a whole in the excitement a little.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....that is one reason I refuse to make this pregnancy public via FB. I already get that when others find out there is baby #3 on the way. Gender is all people want to know, thus another reason for my secret gender scan....I get to deal before the comments can be made in specific to this baby.

Meeks....your scan is almost here!! Have a fun visit..and post the pix!!

3boys....more hugs here too!

[Emily]

We had our family reunion yesterday and told everyone we are pregnant! Everyone was surprised and gave the token comment "it better be a girl! Are you guys hoping for a girl? What will you do with 3 boys?

So we are for sure NOT posting on fb that we are expecting! Those comments really make me so mad. Obviously no one knows we swayed but geez people! Anyway that was my Saturday. I'm glad they know but the comments burned a whole in the excitement a little.

I agree we haven't posted on FB either. We are telling people as and when we see them. It still hasn't stopped the thoughtless comments though -" what are you going to call your third son ha ha ha!?" Bloody hilarious, not.

[meeks32]

Charlee posted really nice on fb I can't remember exact wording but basically said what I plan to post: We are happy to announce we are expecting a new addition to our family, and before the gender comments ensue, yes we will be finding out, no we don't care if its a boy or girl, we'll either have a princess in the family or be starting our own footy team.

I thought that was a nice way of announcing without allowing any gender comments.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Charlee posted really nice on fb I can't remember exact wording but basically said what I plan to post: We are happy to announce we are expecting a new addition to our family, and before the gender comments ensue, yes we will be finding out, no we don't care if its a boy or girl, we'll either have a princess in the family or be starting our own footy team.

I thought that was a nice way of announcing without allowing any gender comments.
That is a sweet way to put those who would try to take away the joy of the announcement in their place!!

And Emily.....my FIL said that same douchey comment! But I just laughed it off, knowing that we are choosing to keep the gender of this baby a secret for a while!!

[meeks32]

Omg almost had a heart attack last night, all fine now but since I am having a 7 week ultrasound Tuesday and often this involves the ghastly internal ultrasound, I thought I needed to do some landscaping 'down there'. To be honest it's winter here and I was depressed on clomid & LE and haven't maintained things to my usual standard. In other words it was feral down there.

I didn't have any wax left and of course i left it to the last minute so I shaved. Must have cut myself. Went to the toilet after and wiped, and there was bright red blood! After our conversations on brown being fine but bright red not, I panicked.

Called dh in and had to ask him to look where it was coming from, which resulted in a hilarious looking scene with me on the bed with both legs in the air and him rummaging around down there trying to 'find the bleeder'. Lol lol lol. Thankfully the kids were in bed.

So he confirms its fine just a cut then is all excited like something is going to happen and I jump up, pull up my pants and am in no mood for anything after that scare!!! Poor dh.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Oh Meeks....I could laugh and cry at your story!!! And tsk tsk on your Dh....isn't it funny how they get aroused at the moment that you just want to shut down shop due to a scare.

[meeks32]

In his defence I was kind of waving a freshly shaven va j j in his face. Bahhahahaa

[meeks32]

"No honey, it's for the doctor" didn't quite seem like the right response!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Meeks....thanks for making me laugh tonight!! It was a long day of a long weekend and I appreciate your humour!

I am up a full 2 cup sizes on the (.)(.) front to my hubby's delight, but even though I kept some bras from my heavier days, they are bursting full. It makes me so determined to lose all the weight and then some once my baby is here!!!

[Tree]

Meeks, hilarious! Horrid little scare though.
Oh, and hopefully this will be of no relevance to you, or anyone... but bright red bleeding doesn't necessarily mean a problem, so long as not heavy and accompanied by cramps.
Xx

[fourthtimesacharm]

I have not been on for a while hitting my 17th week of pregnancy on Tuesday! It's going by so fast. Just wanted too see if Any has found out what they are having yet?? I have my big scan on the 22nd of July I will be 20 weeks, but we won't being finding out gender.

[Salsa]

Tooooo funny Meeks!!! Just popping into say good luck for your scan tomorrow!! Can't wait to hear your update x x

[3boys]

OMG Meeks... This was so funny I spat out my tea! Hahahaha :) funnily enough I was just thinking the other day I was giving the gruffalo a run for his money in the old downstairs department and should really sort that out! Maybe ill wait a bit longer... Don't want to excite DH either! Noooo way.

[3boys]

Not heard anything from the hospital :( I rung them and got fobbed off with a grumpy woman who clearly didn't have a clue what i was talking about let alone the authority to divulge information. She basically said I need to wait as the information was not to hand and even if it was she was not at liberty to tell me! It's all very well for her to stand on her high horse but its not her who might have a child with a genetic problem!! I'm so angry... I've gone from being upset to ready to kill the next person who crosses me. This is my life they are messing with here. It's hardly trivial.

DH thinks that no news is good news! Maybe he is right?? I have to think positive! On the upside I have a midwife appointment on Friday so I should def know by then!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Not heard anything from the hospital :( I rung them and got fobbed off with a grumpy woman who clearly didn't have a clue what i was talking about let alone the authority to divulge information. She basically said I need to wait as the information was not to hand and even if it was she was not at liberty to tell me! It's all very well for her to stand on her high horse but its not her who might have a child with a genetic problem!! I'm so angry... I've gone from being upset to ready to kill the next person who crosses me. This is my life they are messing with here. It's hardly trivial.

DH thinks that no news is good news! Maybe he is right?? I have to think positive! On the upside I have a midwife appointment on Friday so I should def know by then!

Can your midwife call on behalf of you? I would be as angry as a wasp as well!! I know how our system is....it makes me so frustrated, but usually no news is good news. My MD is quite sweet the last time around with the scan, I got a call from her personally :)

Lots of hugs and prayers for you today!!

[Emily]

Yes 3boys do ask your midwife to ring- at least it will stop you having to deal with mrs jobsworth again. You are totally right to feel angry at the way she spoke to you. - if we could we'd all give her a mouthful for you!

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks - OMG, LOL, LOL!!!!! Your post just made my morning. And your DH!! That is exactly what my DH would do! Oh goodness. So glad everything's ok! Good luck at your scan tomorrow...woohoo!!!

Ladybugs - Oooh, so jealous of your (.)(.). Mine are sooo tiny. Granted, I was still nursing when I got pg, but decided to be done about a week after o. By now, all the milk is gone and they are so sad. I take comfort that they will grow as the pregnancy progresses, but right now, yuck!!

Soar - Ugh on all the gender comments. I plan to wait awhile to announce that we are even pg. I live 1700 miles away from my hometown/family. If there's a way I can find out early (MaterniT21 or an early scan), I will wait until we know gender...that way, no pressure. On my side of the family, there are currently 9 grandkids...8 boys, 1 girl. So, I know my mom & dad would love another granddaughter. Not only does that make logical sense, they made it clear in my last 2 pregnancies! With DS2, it was too much. I told them after the fact how hard it was to hear the comments and feel the pressure, so they were more respectful with DS3. But, I still heard a comment here or there. We hadn't really even told them we were going to try for another, and with my history of it taking forever to get pg, they will be shocked that we are pg! I also like Ladybugs' idea of telling everyone we're pg, but not telling gender till we're good and ready!

Emily - what a terrible comment. People are soooo insensitive!! NOT looking forward to comments this go round. That's another big appeal to waiting to tell. I know I won't be able to wait too long to tell my DH's family (they're here and will see my belly!), but hope to hold out as long as possible.

3boys - Fx and praying for great results of all your tests!

AFM - I am exhausted and nauseous. Yuck. But YAY! It means I'm pg! Lol. :)

[black&gold]

Hope everyones scans go well in the coming days! I'm not going to lie, I'm getting a little concerned with my growth - I seriously feel like my stomach hasn't grown in 4 weeks and I definitely don't feel much movement, if any at all - I sometimes have the odd thing, but it could be gas as I remember after ds2 sometimes feeling things that felt just like early pregnancy movements. With DS1 & DS2 I felt things constantly from 11 weeks.. even though DS2 was an anterior placenta. Oh well, not stressing or anything and I have an OB appt. on thursday. I heard the HB at 12 weeks and now I'm 16+ so it has been awhile.. I guess I wouldn't be shocked if they said something happened.. I just seriously don't feel preggo.. am I the only one?

3boys - I know for me with DS2 I had an ultrasound on a thursday morning and I didn't get a call until Monday afternoon around 4 for them to tell me they found something that could indicated a trisomy. I was shocked it took so long to hear something and I'd assume either way they would give you your results because you'd think there'd be a note on your file saying the ultrasound showed a potential concern.. but ever system is so different so who knows - it'd just be nice for you to hear something!!! fx you get a call very soon!

[Soar]

3boys-Woke up thinking of you and hope you get a call today!

Rainbow-yes, I think we will wait a while and see how we feel after we find out who has been making me eat chocolate for the last few weeks! :-)

Meeks-your story is brilliant! If my DH got to dig around in there for a minute he would probably do the same since we haven't done anything since we conceived bc I have been spotting!

Happy Monday everyone! Hope you are feeling good! In my 12th week and now I am only dry heaving every other day! Progress is delightful in the MS dept!

[meeks32]

Just quickly here is my scan, great heartbeat and bubs appeared to have come from the left ovary, however she couldn't FIND the left ovary, only the right one which defiantly didn't ovulate so it must have come from somewhere, lol.

Only one baby!

On the screen using internal ultrasound the baby blob was on the left of the screen if I was facing the screen. Ramzi theorists feel free to predict, I have no idea of this theory!!!12163

[I Love Ladybugs]

Meeks.....I am not much help with Ramzi, but congrats your little bean being in "her" place!!!

[Salsa]

Yay Meeks!! Just logged on to see if you've had your scan yet!! Im so excited to see a perfect little bean in there. And great to hear "she" had a good strong heart beat. Massive milestone done and dusted!! Well done x (ps Im useless with ramzi's method, but keen to hear what others say!)

[Tree]

That's great Meeks!! Yay!!

[GeCon]

Meeks, what wonderful news to wake up to. Sorry, but I haven't got a clue about the Ramzi theory, but am glad to hear that your little bean is in the right place with a nice heartbeat.

[Dreamofpink]

Meeks, what wonderful news to wake up to. Sorry, but I haven't got a clue about the Ramzi theory, but am glad to hear that your little bean is in the right place with a nice heartbeat.

That's fantastic Meeks! Bet you were relieved to hear that all was well with baby. Was she measuring according to your dates okay? I don't know anything about Ramzi, sorry. It's wonderful news to wake up to like Gecon said!

Sent from my LG-E400 using Tapatalk 2

[3boys]

Congratulations on a great scan Meeks. No idea about Ramzi's theory but glad everything looks great :) yay

[Huds]

Thats a lovely pic meeks. It feels so nice going for the scan bcos it make it feel all real.

I just wondered is anyone booking in for a early gender scan? Or will u wait for the 20wks scan?

[Huds]

Hi 3boys hope uve been well. Hav u heard anything?

[grace03]

Thats a lovely pic meeks. It feels so nice going for the scan bcos it make it feel all real.

I just wondered is anyone booking in for a early gender scan? Or will u wait for the 20wks scan?

i just had an early scan last week at 15 w 5 d
its my fourth boy, i thought i wanted to know asap as to not get my hopes up but im not sure it helps or not yet as im crushed either way and now obsessing over early scans where people were told boy but then girl at 20 weeks ??

glad you got a good scan meeks xx

thinking of you 3boys xx

[meeks32]

Thanks everyone!

I will definitely be booking a gender scan at 15-16 weeks. 16 if I can!

Ps my ultrasound dr said that Down syndrome blood test is now available in oz too, it's $1200 AUD! Good to know but I think we will stick to the 10 week bloods and 12 week NT scan since they cost next to nothing. But if it came back high risk I think I would do that for sure.

[Huds]

i just had an early scan last week at 15 w 5 d
its my fourth boy, i thought i wanted to know asap as to not get my hopes up but im not sure it helps or not yet as im crushed either way and now obsessing over early scans where people were told boy but then girl at 20 weeks ??

glad you got a good scan meeks xx

thinking of you 3boys xx

Hi grace, i have heard pple being told boy but then told girl after. I hope this is the xase for u. Im still.sending u tons and tons of pink dust!!!!!!!!! Did u sway? Ive booked myself in for a early scan 27th july. I cant help myself and think about it every day. Im just sooo egar to know. If its another little girl i will still be happy either way. I feel more broody this time. My friends around me have just had babies or will be next month. I hope this yr flys by. I think my DDs will love having a baby around bcos they are obssesed with dolls dolls dolls lol.

[grace03]

Hi grace, i have heard pple being told boy but then told girl after. I hope this is the xase for u. Im still.sending u tons and tons of pink dust!!!!!!!!! Did u sway? Ive booked myself in for a early scan 27th july. I cant help myself and think about it every day. Im just sooo egar to know. If its another little girl i will still be happy either way. I feel more broody this time. My friends around me have just had babies or will be next month. I hope this yr flys by. I think my DDs will love having a baby around bcos they are obssesed with dolls dolls dolls lol.
No sway , was scared to try again but even though we were careful this little bean had other ideas , I think I would be more sad if I had swayed ?
Good luck with your scan My next proper scan is July 24 xx

[Huds]

No sway , was scared to try again but even though we were careful this little bean had other ideas , I think I would be more sad if I had swayed ?
Good luck with your scan My next proper scan is July 24 xx

Thank u and gud luck to u too!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks - YAY for a little baby blob with a heartbeat!! So not sure on Ramzi...I think you would have had to have asked the tech, because sometimes they flip the screen, sometimes not. Happy for you! :)

Huds - Would love to do an early scan. There's a possibility I may be able to get the MaterniT21 blood test as early as 10 weeks...but I only say that because I've heard several local people have had it done. Not sure if my doc will offer! But, I'm AMA (36), so I think there's a much greater likelihood for me to find out early. Yay! But need to find all this out at my 8-week checkup on July 18th.

Grace - I've heard of boys turning into girls, too...you never know! :)

3boys - Thinking of you & hoping you hear something soon!

[Soar]

Meeks-great news!!! Looks great!

Rainbow-I know you are ready for July 16th! :-)

Nothing to exciting here except for I bought a couple of dresses online from a store called Soma Intimates. They are not maternity but I bought one 2 weeks ago and I have been living in it bc I feel cute in it and have been getting tons of compliments! Bought 2 dresses for $40! Woohoo! I am trying to stay away from the maternity clothes as long as possible. :-) Getting bigger by the minute! Yikes!

[Huds]

Meeks - YAY for a little baby blob with a heartbeat!! So not sure on Ramzi...I think you would have had to have asked the tech, because sometimes they flip the screen, sometimes not. Happy for you! :)

Huds - Would love to do an early scan. There's a possibility I may be able to get the MaterniT21 blood test as early as 10 weeks...but I only say that because I've heard several local people have had it done. Not sure if my doc will offer! But, I'm AMA (36), so I think there's a much greater likelihood for me to find out early. Yay! But need to find all this out at my 8-week checkup on July 18th.

Grace - I've heard of boys turning into girls, too...you never know! :)

3boys - Thinking of you & hoping you hear something soon!

Ahhh thats fantastic.. I would love to find out now. Ull have to let us know if u do one. I hope u hear pink!

[Tree]

Had 16 week check up scan today... Asked if they could tell the sex and lady said it was too early! She looked down there anyway but the cord was in the way!! Eeeeeek!

[myrainbowgirl]

Huds - Thank you! Sending you ALL my blue dust! ;)

Tree - I found out at 16 weeks with my first 2 boys...it was very obvious, and most definitely not too early. Bummer about the cord!! Did you have an early scan for a specific reason, or is it standard?

Soar - Yay for feeling cute and for fun dresses! I hear you on getting bigger by the minute. I swear I'm already showing...at 6 weeks! OMG!! I showed DH last night, and he said "You know I'm not allowed to say anything, right?" LOL!!

AFM - Completely exhausted. Beginning to wonder if it could be twins! I'm older, so it's a possibility! Nausea continuing...not in the morning, but most of the rest of the day. It's not terrible, but not fun, either. Oh, the joys of pregnancy! I need to treasure everything, though, since this is my last. :)

[Emily]

Tree if the tech thinks 16 weeks is too really they might have given you a bad guess anyway - I like the idea of your bashful one hiding its modesty:)

Grace, sounds like this is your bonus extra baby and yes I totally that that swaying sets us up for more disappointment. A surprise baby is like a gift!

[Huds]

Had 16 week check up scan today... Asked if they could tell the sex and lady said it was too early! She looked down there anyway but the cord was in the way!! Eeeeeek!

Oh no tree!!!! Bet u were gutted. Was it a private scan?

[Huds]

Huds - Thank you! Sending you ALL my blue dust! ;)

Tree - I found out at 16 weeks with my first 2 boys...it was very obvious, and most definitely not too early. Bummer about the cord!! Did you have an early scan for a specific reason, or is it standard?

Soar - Yay for feeling cute and for fun dresses! I hear you on getting bigger by the minute. I swear I'm already showing...at 6 weeks! OMG!! I showed DH last night, and he said "You know I'm not allowed to say anything, right?" LOL!!

AFM - Completely exhausted. Beginning to wonder if it could be twins! I'm older, so it's a possibility! Nausea continuing...not in the morning, but most of the rest of the day. It's not terrible, but not fun, either. Oh, the joys of pregnancy! I need to treasure everything, though, since this is my last. :)

Awww thank u!! Well im sending u tons and tons of pink dust!!

[Soar]

Tree-bummer on the scan. :-/ My dr is always big about waiting until 17 weeks or later. Could you go and get an inexpensive scan in a week or 2?

Huds-you can have my blue dust too!

Rainbow-your hubby is a smart man! :-)

[Tree]

It was a follow scan to check baby was alright off the back of dodgy bloods at 12 wks. Because it was for that reason, and because she was running behind she literally looked for two seconds and was like 'no to early and cords in the way'. Considering a private scan but DH says we should just wait 4 weeks for next standard scan.... Don't know what to do!?

[Tree]

Ps just woke from nightmare I tried to cook my cat???

[meeks32]

Lol to your nightmare tree. When I was pg with ds1 I had a nightmare that he was tiny so I put him in my back pocket so I wouldn't loose him, then sat on him and squashed him. I woke up and was like WTF?

[meeks32]

Ps I would do the private scan for gender! Well, I plan to anyway. I never have before but will this time.

[grace03]

Tree , it's crazy the dreams we have while pregnant !

I was put back on my antidepressants today I was on them before pregnancy and thought best to go off , however as horrible as I hate my feelings I'm so sad about my baby not being my dream girl ( not sad it's a boy just sad it's not my girl ) I haven't been able to control my emotions and don't think it's fair to my boys to be this crazy ...

Hope everyone else either gets their dg or can cope better than me xx

Ps sorry to bring my sorrows to this thread

[myrainbowgirl]

Tree - Ok, got it. Glad everything looked good today! Hilarious dream!!

Meeks - Another hilarious dream...OMG!! :rofl:

Grace - Smart move on the antidepressants. I'm sure you will feel sooo much better! Rant away! It could be me relatively soon. Arrrggh. Wish there was a guarantee!!

[Huds]

Tree-bummer on the scan. :-/ My dr is always big about waiting until 17 weeks or later. Could you go and get an inexpensive scan in a week or 2?

Huds-you can have my blue dust too!

Rainbow-your hubby is a smart man! :-)


Hehe ill take it! U all can take mine x

[meeks32]

Grace I'm sorry you aren't doing so well but commend your decision to be proactive and take control of it for your boys. It's so hard suffering from depression and even more difficult when you have to change meds or stop during pregnancy, GD can't be helping either. I think you will feel a lot better soon when the medication helps you stabilise. Rant away to us any time, we always want to help and listen.

[Tree]

Grace I'm so sorry you're feeling so low! I hope the meds help somewhat and the GD passes soon. It's really tough when you want something so much... I guess as times goes on some of us are going to get our dreams and some of us aren't. At least then you will be less alone than you probably feel right now. Just remember these feelings are normal and have faith that time will heal and when your LO arrives you will fall so in love!

Regarding the odd dreams... Pregnancy is cruel to me in this way!!

[Soar]

Happy 4th of July for those in the states! Having family over for swimming and a BBQ!

Tree and Meeks- those are some seriously crazy dreams! :-) I don't remember any of mine at the moment. I haven't even had a gender dream of the baby yet.

Grace-good for you for taking control. Sending you prayers to feel better soon. Vent here if you need!

Have a great day ladies! I'm off to make a red white and blue cake! :-)

[grace03]

thanks for the sweet comments i really appreciate it xx

[I Love Ladybugs]

Grace.....do feel free to vent away. It sounds like when the meds kick in, it will help give you some lift. Is there something else you can do for you? (((hugs)))

3boys....I have been thinking of you all week? What time is your appt? How may more hours to wait? Lots of ((((hugs)))) for you too!

Meeks and tree.....you both had me giggling away at your dreams, the hormonally induced dreams are too funny!

Dreamofpink.....only 2 more weeks!!! I woke up today just knowing that in 15 more days I will wake up with the knowledge of who this baby is! Lol, or at least gender, I think I have a sneaky little sweetie on board!

[3boys]

HCG was 0.22 Mom which is great
Papp a was 0.54 which is pretty crappy.

My overall risk is 1:1000 which is low risk! :) Not sure what to think! Going to talk to the midwife tomorrow. I was hoping the Papp a would be higher! But they are saying an amino isn't necessary at this stage.

How does this compare to any of your results?

[Tree]

HCG was 0.22 Mom which is great
Papp a was 0.54 which is pretty crappy.

My overall risk is 1:1000 which is low risk! :) Not sure what to think! Going to talk to the midwife tomorrow. I was hoping the Papp a would be higher! But they are saying an amino isn't necessary at this stage.

How does this compare to any of your results?

My papp a was 0.5 with my first, 0.4 with second. It's 0.2 this time...! Your risk is fine, don't worry. Everything will be ok!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

3boys...what is your next step? How is your midwife with the data? Do you have an MD that you see? Still sending you lots of hugs!! BTW, how was the shopping?

[Dreamofpink]

3boys, that's great that your results have come back low risk. I have no idea what the blood levels mean as all I've ever had is just a letter saying the risk level, no mention of any blood results. Why did they tell you last week that you were high risk then? Have the blood results negated the scan measurements? This is my first experience of an NT scan as they weren't offered for free when I was expecting ds1 & ds2 in Scotland, so I don't know that much about it. Will you see a specialist about it still? Good luck for tomorrow's appointment with your MW.

Ladybugs, I have perfected the art of disassocation and am very thankful that I'm back & forth on the phone to our solicitor, mortgage provider etc and trying to make sure that everything's in place for us to move into our new house at the start of August! Phew! DS1 has also just been prescribed reading glasses for the first time, so we've been up to the opticians a few times this week. Keeping busy is definitely the key for me. I keep swinging between being convinced that it's a boy and then thinking that it's a girl. At the moment, I'm thinking pink but that could change! DH doesn't want to find out, but I don't think I can live with the turmoil for months. I just wish that this LO could give me a few more hard thumps/kicks for reassurance as all I'm getting is a few light flutters higher up than before. As I'm so busy, I'm not feeling much which I really don't like. Are you feeling your LO a lot? Have you got any names picked out yet?

[black&gold]

HCG was 0.22 Mom which is great
Papp a was 0.54 which is pretty crappy.

My overall risk is 1:1000 which is low risk! :) Not sure what to think! Going to talk to the midwife tomorrow. I was hoping the Papp a would be higher! But they are saying an amino isn't necessary at this stage.

How does this compare to any of your results?

That's great you are low risk. Obviously it's hard to still not worry but I'm sure as you have more scans and see no issues you'll feel more reassured. From all I've read I feel like both things individually can mean nothing, and can be so variable and still mean a healthy baby!! I'm sure that's the case for you! Did you happen to get a nub shot or any gender clues (I know that's the last care on your mind, but just curious as I noticed someone mentioned shopping?!)

[I Love Ladybugs]

3boys, that's great that your results have come back low risk. I have no idea what the blood levels mean as all I've ever had is just a letter saying the risk level, no mention of any blood results. Why did they tell you last week that you were high risk then? Have the blood results negated the scan measurements? This is my first experience of an NT scan as they weren't offered for free when I was expecting ds1 & ds2 in Scotland, so I don't know that much about it. Will you see a specialist about it still? Good luck for tomorrow's appointment with your MW.

Ladybugs, I have perfected the art of disassocation and am very thankful that I'm back & forth on the phone to our solicitor, mortgage provider etc and trying to make sure that everything's in place for us to move into our new house at the start of August! Phew! DS1 has also just been prescribed reading glasses for the first time, so we've been up to the opticians a few times this week. Keeping busy is definitely the key for me. I keep swinging between being convinced that it's a boy and then thinking that it's a girl. At the moment, I'm thinking pink but that could change! DH doesn't want to find out, but I don't think I can live with the turmoil for months. I just wish that this LO could give me a few more hard thumps/kicks for reassurance as all I'm getting is a few light flutters higher up than before. As I'm so busy, I'm not feeling much which I really don't like. Are you feeling your LO a lot? Have you got any names picked out yet?

I waver between "knowing" this is my girl....to thinking blue....to feeling that pink is in the horizon...to crying over the fact that I will never had a daughter! When these 2 weeks are over, we will both be able to move forward....instead of the wobble of mind. I went through my boys' baby clothes and have some real "winners", as in stained crap that the new one will wear only at home!!! But at the bottom of the newborn and 0-3 month clothes, I found my faves!! We have chosen a boy name about 2 months after DS#2 was born, we actually had considered legally changing his name to Levi Orion, but now have saved it for a 3rd son. My girl name has not been uttered aloud, my mom does not even know it....lol, I will tell you all in 2 weeks time either way :) How are you on the naming bit? I love it that you are zoning in on what is right in front of you...my week of work next week is going to be beastly long, because at least at home the time goes by fast!!

As for movement, I know that it better pick up or be the most laidback baby, because I WANT kicking!! My DS1 wants to feel the baby move, he kisses the belly, DS2 makes a little motion with his hands and says it baby kick!!

[Soar]

3boys-that's great news! Low risk is the best news!

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs & Dreamofpink - Yay for movement! I can't wait for that to start...easily the best part of being pg! You both will be finding out gender the same day I will get to see my baby's heartbeat...I'm jealous! But excited for you both!

Soar - I would have loved to have made a red, white, and blue cake today! DH had to work, so all I did was take all 3 boys (!) grocery shopping. Not fun! I was so completely worn out today, I couldn't even manage to go outside and enjoy our neighborhood block party. But Happy 4th to you (and any other Americans out there)!

3boys - Amazing results! Soooo happy for you!!

[oxox2013]

3boys, such great news! I am so happy for you :) you must feel so relieved! I truly believe things will work out for the best. Now I know your scan was clouded with all this news, but I have to ask, did you get a nub shot? I may have missed it if you did!

Grace, I am so sorry you are feeling so down. I can not imagine how you must be feeling! But it does take a lot of courage to get back on antidepressants and I think you are doing a great thing for your boys!

As for me, I am getting people left and right telling me that this is my girl. They have no idea but they are seriously annoying because it is getting to me a little bit! What if it isnt my girl? Then I have to tell them all "Nope you are wrong!" Then I think they are totally jinxing me. I know that is stupid, but I cant help it! I just keep responding with "Im sure its a boy because history has a tendency to repeat itself!" I have no idea if I really feel that way or not. I have absolutely no clue what this baby is....

[black&gold]

3boys, such great news! I am so happy for you :) you must feel so relieved! I truly believe things will work out for the best. Now I know your scan was clouded with all this news, but I have to ask, did you get a nub shot? I may have missed it if you did!

Grace, I am so sorry you are feeling so down. I can not imagine how you must be feeling! But it does take a lot of courage to get back on antidepressants and I think you are doing a great thing for your boys!

As for me, I am getting people left and right telling me that this is my girl. They have no idea but they are seriously annoying because it is getting to me a little bit! What if it isnt my girl? Then I have to tell them all "Nope you are wrong!" Then I think they are totally jinxing me. I know that is stupid, but I cant help it! I just keep responding with "Im sure its a boy because history has a tendency to repeat itself!" I have no idea if I really feel that way or not. I have absolutely no clue what this baby is....

I'm feeling the same! I'm having lots of people tell me they think it's a girl this time.. which I don't even know why that matters because they are just pure guesses, but I guess it's because i've never had girl guesses ever during pregnancies. Still gets your hopes up even though I know it's silly! Either way I'll be thrilled.. but DH and I can stop saying how perfect #3 being a girl would be.

Am I the only one that is being bombarded with 2 boys, 1 girl things? I swear, with DS1 & DS2 I NEVER saw that combo ever.. I would always point out how it never happens and for some reason that is ALL i'm seeing. Everything couple at the store, every family I see on a tv show... it's so weird. BUT, that should clearly give us all hope since I bet you not even close to 1% of the population sways!

[Soar]

Ladybugs and Dreampink-you are both going to know so soon! Exciting!!!!! You will both kick us off with a pink streak , I know it! These weeks are going to fly by!

Rainbow-no worries for no cake. I ate enough for you and me both!

We just got back from the zoo! The boys loved it and DH too! I was burning up but smiled thru it! I am going down for a nap. Turned the a/c on 73! Our electric bill this summer is going to be no joke. I am always hot and am turning the a/c super cold! Glad this isn't the 3rd trimester or I might live in the fridge! Last pool party tonight. We have had 3 since Monday. I am partied out but one more wont hurt I guess. Anyone else body aching? My back is not happy with me today. I sure the zoo walking didn't help but it feels like I pulled something? So weird.

Now for a nap........zzzzzz

[myrainbowgirl]

oxox & msblakely - Maybe all those people are sensing something! You can always hope! :) I used to ALWAYS see the combo of 2 boys, 1 girl when I was pg with #3...still do! I think it's actually more common than 3 boys! You are right, verrry few people sway, so it's happening a lot naturally. Woohoo! I tend to notice 3 boy, 1 girl families a lot more often now...although they are much less common than 2 boys, 1 girl, from what I've seen. Hoping that'll be me!!

Soar - LOL! Oh, I ate plenty of that blueberry cheesecake ice cream that I picked up at the store last week. It was the perfect patriotic end to my day! :) I hope you didn't pull something! I'm sure it's just because of walking around at the zoo all day. I'm sure in TX setting your thermostat to 73 will probably set you back a pretty penny! But hey, you're comfortable, right?? :)

AFM - Feeling less crazy-tired today. Weird, I actually think I may have an ear infection! Last night my left ear was hurting, and then the gland on that same side started to swell up. Still swollen today, and my ear feels like I have water in it. Now I'm wondering if that's why I felt so worn out yesterday. Hmmm...

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....I love your thinking and I hope it is true!! My hubby strongly feels this is our daughter, only 13 more days until we know. I don't the heat either....lol, I have always been big preggo in the winter, so even being mid preggo in the summer is going to make me wilt! Glad to hear that you all enjoyed the zoo...I need to do something fun with my boys :)

[Soar]

Oh man last night was terrible! I woke up at 4am to get sick! That has never happened with DS1&2! Then I woke up at 7:30 to get sick again! What is up with that? I am 13 weeks this should be getting better not worse! Ugh so frustrating!

Hope everyone is doing much better than I am today!

[black&gold]

Oh man last night was terrible! I woke up at 4am to get sick! That has never happened with DS1&2! Then I woke up at 7:30 to get sick again! What is up with that? I am 13 weeks this should be getting better not worse! Ugh so frustrating!

Hope everyone is doing much better than I am today!

I'm still so shocked how different pregnancies can be! With DS2 I was so so so SICK, 10 times sicker than with DS1 and this pregnancy I'd say I've been the least sick of all! It's just always so crazy to me how the same body can react so differently to each baby! Hope you are feeling better this morning!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - Praying this is your girl! I wish DH wanted a girl as much as I do! He is ok with a girl, I would even say wants one for me, but not necessarily for himself. :( I know if this is our girl, he will absolutely fall in love, but I think he's a little scared of having one.

Soar - Oh no!! That's terrible! Are you sure it's not a bug? There's one going around here! I hope you feel better soon!

Msblakely - So true. Amazing how our bodies react so differently each time!

AFM - Still super tired, but earache is better. Nausea only occasionally, but kind of starting to get that "nothing sounds good to eat" feeling. Ugh. I have also gotten a metallic taste in my mouth, which I guess is pretty common during pregnancy. Any of you experience that currently or with past pregnancies? This is the first time for me. Yuck!

[Emily]

Ok so I now officially have pregnancy brain! I have been wondering who AFM is as she never posts but lots of people have been sympathising with her MS and tiredness - was even thinking if suggesting she eat more protein and try a power nap! Doh!

Zoo sounds fun! We went to a farm which the boys loved but it was super smelly and made me feel ill! My belly is growing so felt a bit like one of the massive pigs - but without the poo smearing obviously ;)

2 boys then a girl seems to be the only family pattern I see at the moment too! Oh and then my mum reminded me that she is a girl after two boys and my dad a boy after two girls.

Sorry you were sick Soar- but y ou are right it should end really soon.

[Soar]

Rainbow-I know about that metallic taste! Every time I eat a fruit cup I get that taste in my mouth too! Weird and gross! I had to chew two different piece of flavored gum to get it out. Yuck! I also don't care to cool either as nothing really sounds good to eat. The last two weeks I have made easy frozen meals for dinner. Nobody has complained yet but I know they are getting sick of frozen pizza.

Emily-your baby brain cracks me up! :-)

Today is better less nauseau. I did have a funny little encounter yesterday. I went to get a pedicure since I was feeling so sorry for myself for being sick and my mom picked the place for us to go and when I pulled up the name of the nail salon is the name we want to use for a girl! Eck! That was freaky! Then my long time friend called to say his mom had just found out I was pregnant and asked him if he had told me about her dream she had in May. Apparently she called my friend in May and asked if I was pregnant. He said not that he was aware of....well we were pregnant but we weren't telling anyone at that point. I haven't seen his mom in over a year. Anyhow, she said well I dreamt she was pregnant and was having a little girl! He went on and on about how she has always had these little dreams about different things and how they always are correct and then I started crying and saying how sweet that was of her to think of me and then he was like aww and I was a hot mess. He has no idea that we swayed or even pray for a little girl so my reaction wasn't really what he was expecting. So I get home and tell my DH about the days happenings and my oldest son 3.5 years old walks right up to me and says "mommy I asked God to bring us a girl baby and he didn't tell me an answer but I know he heard me!" I just about lost it! My DH and I couldn't believe he told us that just right out of the blue. So weird! He always tell him we have to wait and see what God brings us. We never discuss a girl infront of them as I would be crushed if they ever felt like I needed anything more than them! So aside from feeling very pregnant yesterday all these signs started making me wonder, this whole pregnancy i have said this baby is a boy and almost never let myself think about a little girl and then here all this comes out in the same day. Just wanted to share my very dramatic day I had yesterday. If all this was coincidence that sure was a cruel joke to play on me. This pregnancy sure has become a roller coaster ride!

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - LOL!!! Hey, at least you figured it out without having to ask! ;)

Soar - Glad you're feeling better today. And wow, what a cool story! I really think signs like that can mean something. I hope that you are feeling at peace and confident in what you're hearing! So awesome. :)

AFM - Felt pretty sick tonight. Yuck. I didn't throw up, but was close. Eating helped a little. Oh well, the joys of being pregnant! So glad I'm having symptoms, though. Grow, baby, grow!

[Tree]

AFM!? I though this was a person too.... What does it mean?? Ooooops. Oh, is it As For Me?

[Tree]

Soar what a day! Emotional and wonderful, really hope you get your girl!!!

[meeks32]

I'm still so shocked how different pregnancies can be! With DS2 I was so so so SICK, 10 times sicker than with DS1 and this pregnancy I'd say I've been the least sick of all! It's just always so crazy to me how the same body can react so differently to each baby! Hope you are feeling better this morning!!

Omg this is crazy similar to me!!

Sorry ladies I've been time poor, 3boys great news on the NT results. I think those are totally normal results. So relieved.

[meeks32]

Oh ps I feel like I NEVER see 2 boys 1 girl combo families where the girl is last. Is it just me? I look everywhere but rarely see them.

[Huds]

Oh ps I feel like I NEVER see 2 boys 1 girl combo families where the girl is last. Is it just me? I look everywhere but rarely see them.

My mum had two boys then me!! My SIL had two boys then a little girl.... There is hope xx

[black&gold]

I used to NEVER see it either, and seriously for the last few months of this pregnancy that is ALL we ever see. DH and I feel like it's being taunted right in front of us lol!

[oxox2013]

Ugh. I did an internet physic reading. Very positive but said boy... not sure how I feel now! I have never believed in that stuff but I thought I would hear girl and that it would help get me through til my ultrasound. Why did I do this to myself?!?

[myrainbowgirl]

oxox - I wouldn't put any stock in it. But look at it this way...if you end up having a girl, what an even greater surprise and joy you will feel!

I think 2 boys, 1 girl families are super common. I see it all the time!! All you ladies pg with #3 have an excellent chance of that!

Today I heard 2 stories of families with 3 boys, and then a baby girl. These were random women that I ran into while running errands with my 3 boys. Couldn't help but wonder if it's a sign! :pray:

[Tree]

Considering booking gender scan... But I'm scared! Nearly did it and then chicken'd out!!! What to do, what to do... It's only 3-4 weeks until I could find out at 20 week scan so should I just wait!?

[GeCon]

Considering booking gender scan... But I'm scared! Nearly did it and then chicken'd out!!! What to do, what to do... It's only 3-4 weeks until I could find out at 20 week scan so should I just wait!?

It is up to you if you think you can last that long or if you want to find out sooner. If it was me, I'd book the gender scan.

[meeks32]

Tree I plan to book one for 16-17 weeks. Can not wait one second longer than I need to! Plus then I can confirm at 20 weeks.

[Tree]

I know, I thought I can't wait and I can't but when it comes to it... Quite scary!

[GeCon]

Tree I plan to book one for 16-17 weeks. Can not wait one second longer than I need to! Plus then I can confirm at 20 weeks.

My thoughts exactly. :agree:

[Tree]

Tree I plan to book one for 16-17 weeks. Can not wait one second longer than I need to! Plus then I can confirm at 20 weeks.

Book it now!!! Then you don't need to worry about loosing your nerve. :-) hehe!

I think with the positive response on my 12 and 13 week scans I feel quite optimistic for a girl and I could just go along happily thinking that without really having to think about it at all... But a proper scan makes it all real and then it's not daydreaming anymore it all becomes a question of fact and the facts are it could be a girl, or it could be a boy. One way or a other you have that specific scan and you know!

I didn't think I'd feel this way, its really strange. And then I feel guilty because the health of the baby really is the most important thing! And, I couldn't love my two boys any more so of course I would feel the same if I had a third. What a complicated array of emotions!

[grace03]

Tree, I wish I had waited for the 20 week scan I thought that knowing earlier would help but I'm still not convinced 100% and my scan photos are clear as day but I keep finding forums on the net that say boy at 16 wks then girl at 20 and instead of accepting my boy I'm praying that happens to me ..
I would get one if u are not as obsessing as me lol
I hope you don't have to do any second guessing and that u get ur dg xxx

[meeks32]

Totally totally get that, and can imagine I would feel the same in your position. I am a bit scared of the 12-13 week nub shot (if I manage to get one). I'm scared of guesses for a theory I'm not 100% sold on. But in the same moment I'm too obsessed not to ask! Damned if I do, damned if I don't. I wish someone sold a pin prick test that would just test my blood so I could know now! Screw paying almost a thousand dollars for the test that tells you!

[grace03]

My pic didn't show a clear nub it was facing the wrong way I think , my brothers wife just had a12 week scan and I asked him to send me a pic , their baby is the only cousin so far for my 3 boys (and 4 th ) I think the nub looks girly as her pic is clearer than mine and I just know its the first granddaughter ! Silly nub theory lol
I visited a friend tonight with a 3 week old baby boy and it was nice to have newborn cuddles as my youngest is 4 !
It's also nice to cuddle a baby boy as all the bubs at Playgroup the last year have been girls which just makes me long for one xx

[black&gold]

lol, I feel you all! This is why we aren't finding out and waiting until delivery. I just can't fathom hearing boy again at 20 weeks. It was not a fun experience either time, and I think it's mainly because of the random tech we don't know telling us. I would get them to write it down, but if it said girl I wouldn't believe it and want confirmation. I don't have GD though and know if it's a boy I'd so much rather find out at the delivery when I know I'm going to be obsessed with him either way! My 20 weeks scan is booked for less that 2 weeks and the thought of finding out makes me want to throw up... we're waiting lol!

Meeks - I felt the same about the nub, I didn't do the scan because I didn't want to stress over the theory. There have been way to many on here getting all guesses of one gender and going opposite - it just gives hope when their might not be any.. but if I got one, there's no way I couldn't have posted it!!! Such weird emotions that go with all this - especially knowing it's 10000000000% your last!

[Soar]

Oxox-I wouldn't worry about the reading at all. Those are fun but really her guess is 50-50 for sure!

Rainbow-I think you have a great chance at a girl! I read somewhere at #4
Your body goes back to 50-50 so the chances are pretty great! Plus your sway was really strong too!

Tree-I am nervous for a gender scan too. It's very final! I am waiting till 20 weeks so I can dream a little longer! My gut says boy but my heart says girl! Oh the limbo!!!!

Doing good over here! Much better than my odd night a couple of days ago!

[oxox2013]

Thanks girls! I am really trying not to put too much stock into it but that stuff has a way with messing with your head! Like most of you, I am very nervous for my 20 week scan! Since I missed the nub opportunity, I have zero clue what this baby is. All I know is that my symptoms are way different, I am not really showing yet (which I was with boys) and overall like you soar, I feel in my heart this is my girl. I know that these things really make no difference whatsoever in regards to gender, but I cant help but hope! I have my next ob check tomorrow and I am nervous simply because I know they will schedule my anatomy scan! I mean just scheduling it makes me nervous... I wish I could convince my DH not to find out!

Glad everyone seems to be doing well.... I cant believe we are all getting so close to knowing one way or another!

[meeks32]

lol, I feel you all! This is why we aren't finding out and waiting until delivery. I just can't fathom hearing boy again at 20 weeks. It was not a fun experience either time, and I think it's mainly because of the random tech we don't know telling us. I would get them to write it down, but if it said girl I wouldn't believe it and want confirmation. I don't have GD though and know if it's a boy I'd so much rather find out at the delivery when I know I'm going to be obsessed with him either way! My 20 weeks scan is booked for less that 2 weeks and the thought of finding out makes me want to throw up... we're waiting lol!

Meeks - I felt the same about the nub, I didn't do the scan because I didn't want to stress over the theory. There have been way to many on here getting all guesses of one gender and going opposite - it just gives hope when their might not be any.. but if I got one, there's no way I couldn't have posted it!!! Such weird emotions that go with all this - especially knowing it's 10000000000% your last!

Although I feel nervous about the scans I can't imagine waiting. I have had post natal in the past and couldn't risk GD causing it again at birth. I think I need 20 weeks to deal with it! For me, I have to have a Caesarian (past damage) so it's a pretty horrible and clinical experience at birth and I would much prefer the surprise to be in a calm warm ultrasound room where I am more in control of myself rather than drugged up and completely in the hands of the doctors (no matter how great they are).

Also I kind of don't want the birth to be dominated by gender comments or questions. I would rather field them before than after. I don't want anything tainting that high after having baby.

[black&gold]

Although I feel nervous about the scans I can't imagine waiting. I have had post natal in the past and couldn't risk GD causing it again at birth. I think I need 20 weeks to deal with it! For me, I have to have a Caesarian (past damage) so it's a pretty horrible and clinical experience at birth and I would much prefer the surprise to be in a calm warm ultrasound room where I am more in control of myself rather than drugged up and completely in the hands of the doctors (no matter how great they are).

Also I kind of don't want the birth to be dominated by gender comments or questions. I would rather field them before than after. I don't want anything tainting that high after having baby.

Oh, I totally think a c-section is another story when it comes to finding out at birth - It's not really an ideal situation for that. I also fully agree of the PPD front, that anything which could trigger worse feelings is probably a better idea to confront earlier on. With DS1 & 2 there was no way I could wait, this baby I can just tell I have no GD at all. We think a girl would make a pretty cool family dynamic, but I'm also so confident in same gender siblings that I'm so okay with that too. If I had any worry of GD I personally would have to find out. I found with both that I got GD after the ultrasound, but once baby was born I could care less. Hoping I just skip the midway GD since we aren't finding out and go straight to just being happy with whatever comes. Here's hoping ;)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Just a quick update....my dream of a daughter is gone. I saw a very cute DS#3 on a private scan tonight....will post more in the am.

[grace03]

Just a quick update....my dream of a daughter is gone. I saw a very cute DS#3 on a private scan tonight....will post more in the am.

Aww Hun I know how u feel and I hope you feel better soon , my 4 th boy is due dec and I'm still upset about loosing my dream I'm sure he is going to be beautiful xx

[myrainbowgirl]

Tree - I would probably do it. I am hoping I can get the Maternity21 blood test in about a month...so yeah, I'm all for finding out asap! :)

Meeks - Totally understand the nerves. I am DREADING finding out. But, I am going to. Gotta prepare myself!

Msblakely - I admire your patience! Like I just said, I am dreading finding out, but I would absolutely be on pins and needles the whole pregnancy if I waited! Good for you, though!

oxox - Hope you're feeling better about things!

Ladybugs - Saw your post on the other thread. Congrats on beautiful boy #3. Check out the song I posted a link to in the Gender Disappointment thread. I hope it encourages you!! Hugs!!!!

AFM - Just today I was thinking, hmmm....not feeling very pg today. Haven't felt sick in a few days, not horribly tired. Then, the nausea hit me. Sitting here munching on Tostitos black bean & garlic chips. YUM! But, I REALLY need to step away from the bag of chips...

[meeks32]

Just a quick update....my dream of a daughter is gone. I saw a very cute DS#3 on a private scan tonight....will post more in the am.

Oh honey I'm sorry for the loss of that dream. I'm glad ds3 is looking healthy and cute, and hope finding out early allows you to grieve, accept then eventually get excited and embrace this turn of events.

Big hugs.

[Tree]

Ladybugs I'm so sorry!!! I hope in time you will adjust and get excited about the new and wonderful addition to your family!

I feel incredibly insensitive now writing this....

But we bit the bullet and went for the private gender scan.... And it's a... GIRL!!! I actually really felt it was but even so am in total shock!! She promised baby won't grow a willy and said she was 100%.

[meeks32]

Ladybugs I'm so sorry!!! I hope in time you will adjust and get excited about the new and wonderful addition to your family!

I feel incredibly insensitive now writing this....

But we bit the bullet and went for the private gender scan.... And it's a... GIRL!!! I actually really felt it was but even so am in total shock!! She promised baby won't grow a willy and said she was 100%.

Tree that's amazing! Well done. It's nice to finally have someone that got what they swayed for, recently our group has had some bad luck so I am encouraged by this!

On the flipside, I am terrified I have a boy in here, because I seem to be craving lots of boy foods, like oranges, fruit of all kinds really, veggies, cheese and yoghurt. I have had lots of odd cravings this time too and with the boys I had none. Maybe it's just so long on LE forcing me to eat more nutrients?? Fx fx fx

[Tree]

Meeks I've massively craved healthy food recently!! I think it's the LE diet. And maybe a girl thing... I got so fat eating junk with the boys and didn't crave healthy food at all!

[GeCon]

Tree, congrats on hearing pink.

[Huds]

Ladybugs I'm so sorry!!! I hope in time you will adjust and get excited about the new and wonderful addition to your family!

I feel incredibly insensitive now writing this....

But we bit the bullet and went for the private gender scan.... And it's a... GIRL!!! I actually really felt it was but even so am in total shock!! She promised baby won't grow a willy and said she was 100%.

Thats lovely news tree. Im so so happy for u. Finally u can put ur mind to rest and enjoy the rest of ur pregnancy. Girls are so lovely.. My two are so into my stuff! Make up, shoes etc u name it. Can i ask where did u go and how many wks are u?

[Huds]

Tree that's amazing! Well done. It's nice to finally have someone that got what they swayed for, recently our group has had some bad luck so I am encouraged by this!

On the flipside, I am terrified I have a boy in here, because I seem to be craving lots of boy foods, like oranges, fruit of all kinds really, veggies, cheese and yoghurt. I have had lots of odd cravings this time too and with the boys I had none. Maybe it's just so long on LE forcing me to eat more nutrients?? Fx fx fx

Meeks i craved fruit with my first DD! I wouldnt read too much into cravings. They normal say ur body craves what its lacking.. Duno if thats tru lol. I hope u get ur princess

[Tree]

Thats lovely news tree. Im so so happy for u. Finally u can put ur mind to rest and enjoy the rest of ur pregnancy. Girls are so lovely.. My two are so into my stuff! Make up, shoes etc u name it. Can i ask where did u go and how many wks are u?

Thank you!! And all the things you just said I so hope I get to share with my little girl... So surreal. Touching wood and praying she is a healthy little thing and the pregnancy goes well! I can't help but worry about something..!

I went to Babybond, they are all over the country (uk) and I'm 17 weeks but they do the gender scans from 16 weeks.

http://www.ultrasound-direct.com/mobile/

[afy]

Tree huge congratulations! That's lovely news,
Enjoy every min of your pregnancy.. I loved eating fruits with my DD mainly strawberries, raspberries and blackberries, apples and bananas.
This time round Ive rarely picked up an piece of fruit! I wish I could but don't feel like eating them at all!

And for those who didn't hear their desired gender, congratulations on the latest edition, they'll be a perfect edition to your families I'm sure!