Due in December/January/February 2013/14

[Waiting4Daisy]

Good luck onthepond and oxo on your scans! Can't wait to hear your news and fingers crossed for everyone.

[Soar]

Meeks-thinking about you! Hoping for great news that makes you happy today at your NT scan!

[meeks32]

Nub shot here, please guess: http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32804

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks, that looks girly!! Woohoo!!! :)

[Soar]

Meeks-you got a ton of girl guesses!!!! So excited for you!!!!!!! Yay!

[MAMAOF3BOYSAND1ONWAY]

Meeks, looks girlie.

[Ktiguewantspink]

Thanks girls for the warm welcome! Meeks that looks like my scan so I'm so excited for you! Yeah for pink!

I hope everyone else's scans goes well! Good luck! Can't wait to hear!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Meeks I would be cautiously but excitedly optimistic at that nub! Looking very girly IMO.

[oxox2013]

Yay Meeks! That looks soo girly! Congrats :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

I am in shock...and no, not over the kidney issue. I have been told from the Md today that the gender reported is a girl.....

I am still shaking...and feeling like the 18 weeks elective scan could not be wrong, but they must be at the 19 and 21 scan at the hospital one. She (if they are right about gender) has a bulging bladder, a 2mm and 6mm cyst in the right kidney which means it is a write-off, but the left kidney is working and the bladder is doing its job as there is a good level of amniotic fluid.

That is the update for now...in my head, I can't shake off that he could be a she, she could be a he. To be team green sorta???

[meeks32]

Originally Posted by I Love Ladybugs (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?p=446407)

I am in shock...and no, not over the kidney issue. I have been told from the Md today that the gender reported is a girl.....

I am still shaking...and feeling like the 18 weeks elective scan could not be wrong, but they must be at the 19 and 21 scan at the hospital one. She (if they are right about gender) has a bulging bladder, a 2mm and 6mm cyst in the right kidney which means it is a write-off, but the left kidney is working and the bladder is doing its job as there is a good level of amniotic fluid.

That is the update for now...in my head, I can't shake off that he could be a she, she could be a he. To be team green sorta???


Just read this. I dont often pop in here but was waiting for an update! So it seems two things, baby should be ok??? And also you are now involuntarily team green???!!!

I am SO relieved your baby seems to be happy in there and everything is safe for now. I know nothing about those issues so I hope I got that right.

I'm glad you have hope for a girl but also feel sorry for you not being able to confirm, hope can be tantalising! For what it's worth, I hope she is your she!!

[myrainbowgirl]

So Ladybugs, just read your second post on the other thread...your hospital did two scans and BOTH said girl?? And your tech at the 18-wk scan took awhile to get the "proof"? Sounds like the 18-week one is the iffy one!! OMG, congrats!! Wow, unbelievably exciting!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I went to phone my mom to tell her of the kidney/bladder news (not telling gender stuff even) and she let me know that my brother has been rushed to the hospital an hour away for a CT scan. He fell onto his back/backside off his crane truck and is in urgent care. I have been bawling over that....I promise I will respond to all the messages soon....I have been praying my heart out for my brother.

[xxNitaxx]

hello ladies

Hope you are all well sorry not posted for a while and havent had chance to read back will do that tomorrow at some point.

Went for midwife appointment on 29th July for the quad screen test and got to hear peanuts heartbeat. Got a surprise visit from the midwife on Saturday as peanut is high risk for downs syndrome 1:9 was the result ig ot so OH and i have had to have a good chat to see if we were going to have the amnio and as the result was not going to change anything we declined. Had an appointment today with a consultant who went through the amnio, why they wanted me to have it and the risk. He also went through all the problems/issues peanut could have if he/she did have downs. We still refused the amnio. i would hate to be the 1% that loses their baby through miscarrige. i will now be consultant led care and will have more scans so they can keep a closer eye on peanut will have scans at 24, 28, 30 and 32 weeks. Peanut will be very much loved no matter what

[black&gold]

Ladybugs! I'm sorry to hear about your brother and really hoping he's okay! I'm glad to hear that things are looking good for baby and hope that you continue to hear more good news! I'm so confused about the gender though - did you see boy bits at the 18 week scan? How crazy would that be for a turn around! Keep us posted on everything!

[black&gold]

hello ladies

Hope you are all well sorry not posted for a while and havent had chance to read back will do that tomorrow at some point.

Went for midwife appointment on 29th July for the quad screen test and got to hear peanuts heartbeat. Got a surprise visit from the midwife on Saturday as peanut is high risk for downs syndrome 1:9 was the result ig ot so OH and i have had to have a good chat to see if we were going to have the amnio and as the result was not going to change anything we declined. Had an appointment today with a consultant who went through the amnio, why they wanted me to have it and the risk. He also went through all the problems/issues peanut could have if he/she did have downs. We still refused the amnio. i would hate to be the 1% that loses their baby through miscarrige. i will now be consultant led care and will have more scans so they can keep a closer eye on peanut will have scans at 24, 28, 30 and 32 weeks. Peanut will be very much loved no matter what

I'm sorry to hear about your NT results. I know they are so often false positives, but it's also a scary thing to go through. You seem like you are handling it well though! Hoping everything is alright and that you have a healthy baby in there!

[xxNitaxx]

I'm sorry to hear about your NT results. I know they are so often false positives, but it's also a scary thing to go through. You seem like you are handling it well though! Hoping everything is alright and that you have a healthy baby in there!

Im handling it as well as i can. Got to be positive for peanut as peanut needs us to be. Im hoping baby is fine but we are preparing ourslves for every eventuality. I have been a little teary and down the last few days but now its time to start looking forward. we are so looking forward to getting to see peanut grow with the extra scans and we cant wait to meet him/her in January :)

[Soar]

Xxnitaxx-I posted a comment to you in the wrong thread. So here it is again! :-)

Will you be able to get more info or you will need to wait until the next scan to get more information? Iwould be like you and skip the amnio as well. This baby is going to be such a blessing for you and your family. Staying positive and looking ahead as well as you canto prepare is a smart move. That way you are as ready as you can be. Come in here if you need to express some worries. That's what we are here for!

[meeks32]

Xxnitaxx

I'm so sorry you have this worry, and have to wait so long to know, but I agree they are often false positives, and know two women who had the amino and it was all clear! They were both fine and carried to term, but what a lot of scariness for a result that ended up being totally normal. Nobody can make the amino decision for you, you just do what you are comfortable with.

Big hugs

Xx

[Tree]

Meeks congratulations! I guessed on your nub pic - girl!!

Kt-wantsagirl, welcome!!

Ladybugs, congratulations on hearing girl. I'm so sorry about your brothers accident and hope he is alright!

Nita, sorry about your scan. What was it about it that put you high risk? You still have a much higher chance that baby doesn't have downs than that they do.

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - Replied about your brother on the other thread. Praying!!

Nita - I am so sorry! But, yes, I agree about the false positives. Is more than likely nothing! Did they offer to do a blood test to look at baby's chromosomes? Because they're doing them in the US now for women who are AMA or have had a baby with a trisomy. I would think that they would offer the blood test, since it carries no risk. If you were able to get that done, then you would have a definite answer...and assuming it was negative, no worries for sure! Prayers headed your way.

[I Love Ladybugs]

The time at my friend's house was dearly needed.....the concerns for my brother's life and health are of top concern to me, but it was nice that my baby was important to them to ask/talk about as well. No real update on my brother, but he was airlifted to Vancouver tonight and we will have more to go on in the am. Please keep him in your prayers and thoughts!!

I will be on in the morning to reply...my heart is heavy over my brother and I know that I will need sleep.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Nita...I just want to send you love, prayers and hugs over your baby....I know how it feels to be presented with tough news. ((((hugs))))

[Emily]

I am in shock...and no, not over the kidney issue. I have been told from the Md today that the gender reported is a girl.....

I am still shaking...and feeling like the 18 weeks elective scan could not be wrong, but they must be at the 19 and 21 scan at the hospital one. She (if they are right about gender) has a bulging bladder, a 2mm and 6mm cyst in the right kidney which means it is a write-off, but the left kidney is working and the bladder is doing its job as there is a good level of amniotic fluid.

That is the update for now...in my head, I can't shake off that he could be a she, she could be a he. To be team green sorta???

OMG why do they say girl? What does "reported" mean? Have they done a blood test or just noticed something new on the scans. Glad to hear that the baby has one good kidney - I know you will still worry but with one kidney he or she should be fine.

I posted somewhere else about how i really hope your brother is OK but the computer seems to have swallowed it. You have had such an awful time of late. You deserve a change in luck.

Nita, i also commented on your scan results and that got lost too. I hope that they can give you some answers. Are they going to give you another scan now? I agree with you that there is no point in doing the ammnio - the risk is small but it is there. Hugs and fingers crossed for you.

[xxNitaxx]

Xxnitaxx-I posted a comment to you in the wrong thread. So here it is again! :-)

Will you be able to get more info or you will need to wait until the next scan to get more information? Iwould be like you and skip the amnio as well. This baby is going to be such a blessing for you and your family. Staying positive and looking ahead as well as you canto prepare is a smart move. That way you are as ready as you can be. Come in here if you need to express some worries. That's what we are here for!

they are going to look for makers on my scans and check growth but nothing but amnio will tell me 100% which im not doing so not sure what other info i will get guess i will have to wait and see

[xxNitaxx]

Ladybugs - Replied about your brother on the other thread. Praying!!

Nita - I am so sorry! But, yes, I agree about the false positives. Is more than likely nothing! Did they offer to do a blood test to look at baby's chromosomes? Because they're doing them in the US now for women who are AMA or have had a baby with a trisomy. I would think that they would offer the blood test, since it carries no risk. If you were able to get that done, then you would have a definite answer...and assuming it was negative, no worries for sure! Prayers headed your way.

no dont offer them here. You can get one done privately but costs £500 pounds OH has just lost his job so would rather spend any money we have on the baby then a test that wont actually change anything we will keep peanut no matter what

[xxNitaxx]

Nita, sorry about your scan. What was it about it that put you high risk? You still have a much higher chance that baby doesn't have downs than that they do.

I didnt have the NT scan as they dont do them in my area its just the quad screen blood test at 16 weeks. they said my level of hormones were higher than they should. age and weight makes a difference aswell

[meeks32]

I didnt have the NT scan as they dont do them in my area its just the quad screen blood test at 16 weeks. they said my level of hormones were higher than they should. age and weight makes a difference aswell

Have you had any scans at all yet? Hormones high... It's not twins?

[black&gold]

I didnt have the NT scan as they dont do them in my area its just the quad screen blood test at 16 weeks. they said my level of hormones were higher than they should. age and weight makes a difference aswell

From my understanding the combination of the NT scan and bloodwork at 12 & 16 weeks is WAY more reliable. LIke you said, so much can make you have higher hormone levels. But I still totally understand your decision on no amnio - we would have done the same ourselves.

[xxNitaxx]

Have you had any scans at all yet? Hormones high... It's not twins?

yeah ive had 2 scans 1 at 6 weeks 1 at 12 weeks dating scan took no NT measurements

definitely not twins as you can see from my profile pic lol

[Smiley13]

I am in shock...and no, not over the kidney issue. I have been told from the Md today that the gender reported is a girl.....

I am still shaking...and feeling like the 18 weeks elective scan could not be wrong, but they must be at the 19 and 21 scan at the hospital one. She (if they are right about gender) has a bulging bladder, a 2mm and 6mm cyst in the right kidney which means it is a write-off, but the left kidney is working and the bladder is doing its job as there is a good level of amniotic fluid.

That is the update for now...in my head, I can't shake off that he could be a she, she could be a he. To be team green sorta???
Wow so exciting! Can you get another elective scan to confirm? Do you have the pics?

[xxNitaxx]

From my understanding the combination of the NT scan and bloodwork at 12 & 16 weeks is WAY more reliable. LIke you said, so much can make you have higher hormone levels. But I still totally understand your decision on no amnio - we would have done the same ourselves.

they dont offer NT scan here but have been told if i get pregnant again i will get it

[Smiley13]

I went to phone my mom to tell her of the kidney/bladder news (not telling gender stuff even) and she let me know that my brother has been rushed to the hospital an hour away for a CT scan. He fell onto his back/backside off his crane truck and is in urgent care. I have been bawling over that....I promise I will respond to all the messages soon....I have been praying my heart out for my brother.
So sorry! Prayers for him!

[Smiley13]

hello ladies

Hope you are all well sorry not posted for a while and havent had chance to read back will do that tomorrow at some point.

Went for midwife appointment on 29th July for the quad screen test and got to hear peanuts heartbeat. Got a surprise visit from the midwife on Saturday as peanut is high risk for downs syndrome 1:9 was the result ig ot so OH and i have had to have a good chat to see if we were going to have the amnio and as the result was not going to change anything we declined. Had an appointment today with a consultant who went through the amnio, why they wanted me to have it and the risk. He also went through all the problems/issues peanut could have if he/she did have downs. We still refused the amnio. i would hate to be the 1% that loses their baby through miscarrige. i will now be consultant led care and will have more scans so they can keep a closer eye on peanut will have scans at 24, 28, 30 and 32 weeks. Peanut will be very much loved no matter what

So sorry about your results but as others have said it could be a false positive. I agree with your decision about the amnio especially if it isn't going to change anything for you. Good luck! Prayers for a healthy babyXOX

[meeks32]

yeah ive had 2 scans 1 at 6 weeks 1 at 12 weeks dating scan took no NT measurements

definitely not twins as you can see from my profile pic lol

Sorry I'm on my phone and the pic is like 3mm wide, and I can't see signatures. How odd they give you a 12 week scan but don't take NT measurements. It's like 5 seconds extra! My understanding is also that the NT assessment isn't that reliable unless bloods and ultrasound are done together, here they don't even release your bloodwork until the NT scan is done because they believe they must be read together to be interpreted correctly.

Glad you aren't doing the amino when it could all well be fine.

Remember even 1:9 means there are 8 chances out of 9 that it is fine!

[xxNitaxx]

Sorry I'm on my phone and the pic is like 3mm wide, and I can't see signatures. How odd they give you a 12 week scan but don't take NT measurements. It's like 5 seconds extra! My understanding is also that the NT assessment isn't that reliable unless bloods and ultrasound are done together, here they don't even release your bloodwork until the NT scan is done because they believe they must be read together to be interpreted correctly.

Glad you aren't doing the amino when it could all well be fine.

Remember even 1:9 means there are 8 chances out of 9 that it is fine!

I know i think its strange other parts of the UK do them and i was expecting them to take the NT measurements but found out on the day of my scan they dont do them on the NHS in Wales apparently due to training issues

[onthepond]

Ladybugs, so sorry to hear about your brother. Sending positive thoughts your way for his recovery.

Nita, also so sorry to hear about what you are going through. You seem to be handling very well and I am sure that all will be just great in the end!

[myrainbowgirl]

GeCon - Fingers crossed for your scan tomorrow!

Ladybugs - Thinking of you and praying for your brother. Any updates?

Nita - Also praying for you. I love your attitude!

AFM - MaterniT21 and NT scan on Friday! Aaahh...getting nervous!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Just got a little news.....he is able to move toes, knees, etc...being airlifted tonight instead....and it looks like there is not a bed ready when he gets there.I should know more in a couple of hours.

[Soar]

Ladybugs-glad he has movement that it is great news! Also, after reading all your scan recounts I think you are seriously going to be another Thorz but for our group! You will know soon enough! You deserve some good news! Plus your attitude about all of this has really been so awesome! Fingers crossed for you and the "think pink" baby!

Rainbow-you must be getting very excited and nervous all at the same time. You should be getting your gender results about the same time I go in for my gender scan! Fingers firmly crossed for both of us!!!! Think pink!!!!

AFM-still nauseous today! Ugh Almost 18 weeks and I still get sick every single morning. By this time with both boys I was well past m/s and feeling great but not this time. Hoping its a sign of a pinky!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....do you remember Thorz story on her baby girl's name? We have a very similar tale about our girl name....so it would be lovely to end up in the Thorz and beyond category!! I am not trying to get my hopes up too high, but it is hard not too :)

No word on my brother.....I have to believe that he is being safely transported down there as I write this and patiently wait for word of what is going on. He definitely appreciates the prayers!

[Soar]

Ladybugs-I do remember her name story! I like where this is going! Oh I so hope this is the silver lining of your story! Getting really excited for you and your family!!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....I do want it to be the silver lining, the rainbow following stressful storms...but I have to be patient! That is the tough bit...I want to know now!!! :)

There are so many scans up and coming and I am hoping that there is an abundance of DG...but I feel so bad for those who are struggling with GD, especially after such amazing sways. My love and hugs goes out to those who are in the grips of GD. (((hugs)))

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - Glad to hear your brother is able to at least move something! Will continue to pray. Yes, I agree with Soar...I think you are about to become our buddy group's Thorz! So exciting! When is your second 3D scan?

Soar - Yuck on the nausea. I am usually feeling better by now, too, and I'm not there yet. Although I don't have morning sickness per se, I am still feeling on and off nausea. Food aversions, too. Thank goodness I'm not throwing up! Hope you're feeling better soon...but absolutely hope it's a sign of a pink bean for you! What's your scan date? I expect to hear back between Aug. 20-23. Dreading it, though!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Myrainbowgirl...I waited for a reply from the offer of the free u/s....and still nothing! It is like all my news was given to me yesterday and I have to be super patient today!!
You can bet I really want picture proof of this baby's gender!!!

[meeks32]

Ladybugs, so glad your brother is able to wiggle his toes and knees, that is great news, I am so happy to hear it. x

[xxNitaxx]

hello ladies

Just wanted to share my perfect little peanuts heartbeat from 16 wk check up peanut was 16+3
http://dw4.convertfiles.com/files/0094296001375972057/record020.mp3

heart rate of about 160ish didnt get told at the appointment so did a little count and a bit of maths lol

[BeadinMom]

Ladybug,
So glad to hear your brother is improving!!!
Keep us posted on that beautiful baby & HER scan :)

[Emily]

hello ladies

Just wanted to share my perfect little peanuts heartbeat from 16 wk check up peanut was 16+3
http://dw4.convertfiles.com/files/0094296001375972057/record020.mp3

heart rate of about 160ish didnt get told at the appointment so did a little count and a bit of maths lol

Aw how cute is that? You should make it your ring tone on your phone!

Great news about your brother Ladybugs. I have a feeling this whole nightmare will be a distant memory soon.

[xxNitaxx]

Aw how cute is that? You should make it your ring tone on your phone!

Great news about your brother Ladybugs. I have a feeling this whole nightmare will be a distant memory soon.

I know its amazing. I will be making it my ring tone lol. I cant help but keep listening to it :)

[BeadinMom]

Nitax, that's so sweet. :) I would totally do it, too.
I'm waiting for my Doppler to come in the mail now!!

Ugh...
How are you ladies feeling???
I'm having HORRIBLE sinus headaches. :(

[black&gold]

Beadinmom - sorry to hear about your headaches - they are the worst! I'm feeling pretty decent but still completely exhausted! I still have to nap everyday when my boys are down for their nap or else I can't make it! I'm also still on my morning sickness medication. I'm 22 weeks so hopefully I can quit soon but I had to be on it for 30 weeks with DS2! Oh and can I just mention I'm feelin a little fat. I know I'm pregnant and should be gaining, especially at my starting weight but it's still a tough pill to swallow being a girl lol!

[BeadinMom]

Ohhh...amen, sister...ammmmmen!!! LOL!!!

[Smiley13]

Ladybug-Great news about your brother! Hope he continues to do well!

BeadinMom-I am having the same sinus issues! Some days I have a headache all day long. The nausea finally stopped and then this started:( Ugh...

AFM- My gender scan is on Saturday morning (thats less than 2 days away for me). I'm so nervous I feel sick. I really hope I'm doing the right thing going at 16 weeks. I don't want to leave there without knowing for sure but I also can't wait any longer to try to find out.

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - She better get back to you ASAP!!

Nita - So sweet, gave me chills!

BeadinMom - I've had some sinus headaches, too, but not horrible. Hope you feel better soon!

MsBlakely - Yuck on still taking nausea meds. I am totally there with you on naps, though...and I am not a napper! I can't remember - are you team green?

Smiley - So exciting! Good luck, and can't wait to hear!

AFM - NT scan and bloodwork in the morning. Spent some time looking at nub shots last night...although I know 11-wk shots are NOT reliable, I will still be looking for clues! Don't plan to ask the tech. If I see a boy nub, will prepare for boy. If I see a girly nub, will think 50/50 chance still! Nervous!

[black&gold]

Ladybugs - She better get back to you ASAP!!

Nita - So sweet, gave me chills!

BeadinMom - I've had some sinus headaches, too, but not horrible. Hope you feel better soon!

MsBlakely - Yuck on still taking nausea meds. I am totally there with you on naps, though...and I am not a napper! I can't remember - are you team green?

Smiley - So exciting! Good luck, and can't wait to hear!

AFM - NT scan and bloodwork in the morning. Spent some time looking at nub shots last night...although I know 11-wk shots are NOT reliable, I will still be looking for clues! Don't plan to ask the tech. If I see a boy nub, will prepare for boy. If I see a girly nub, will think 50/50 chance still! Nervous!

Yes, team green.. we had our 20 week scan to weeks ago and I was terrified to watch any of it! However, with all thats been going on in this group and people finding out their genders I'm getting tempted to find out!

Good luck with the scan and hopefully you get a nice nub shot (I avoided that too! LOL! I am so just delaying the inevitable!)

[Soar]

Rainbow-excited to see if you get a nub shot! Woohoo!

Meeks-I think our scan is the same day. Mine is August 27th too!

Today has been pretty good. Came home from teaching and saw that my toes look like sausages. Today was another not so exciting moment when I realized my (.)(.) are resting on my ever growing bump when i sit down. Oh man and I am just shy of 18 weeks! Something has got to slow down or I am in trouble. Anyone else able to do my new trick too? Someone please say yes!

[BeadinMom]

14.5 weeks & I'm with you, Soar...LOL.

[BeadinMom]

Good luck tomorrow, myrainbow girl!!

[meeks32]

Lol soar!!! I am almost 13 weeks and dh was laughing when I had a shower with ds2 last night because w both have the same massive pot bellies now.

My scan is only with my ob, I'll be 15 weeks... Not sure if I want him to look since he said boy at 11w. Maybe I should wait til the 20w scan?

[meeks32]

Good luck rainbow!

[myrainbowgirl]

Lol soar!!! I am almost 13 weeks and dh was laughing when I had a shower with ds2 last night because w both have the same massive pot bellies now.

My scan is only with my ob, I'll be 15 weeks... Not sure if I want him to look since he said boy at 11w. Maybe I should wait til the 20w scan?

I personally would HAVE to look! LOL! I found out boy with DS1 & DS2 at 16 weeks...super obvious! My SIL found out at 15 weeks she was pg with a girl, so it can be done! Of course, the later you wait, the more accurate...so just go with what you're comfortable with. Exciting to have a scan, either way! :)

[meeks32]

I personally would HAVE to look! LOL! I found out boy with DS1 & DS2 at 16 weeks...super obvious! My SIL found out at 15 weeks she was pg with a girl, so it can be done! Of course, the later you wait, the more accurate...so just go with what you're comfortable with. Exciting to have a scan, either way! :)

I would usually HAVE to look too. However now after he declared boy by looking at the genital tube via potty shot at 11 weeks (and having a girl nub at 12) I am worried if the genitals are still swollen at 15 weeks and he says boy again I will stress for 5 weeks before the 20 w scan. BUT on the other hand, if he says girl, I save myself 5 weeks of wonder and torture!

[Emily]

Meeks tha a tough call! If you dont have faith in him any more you probably wont believe him whatever he says!

My 20 week scan has had to be bumped up to Monday evening. It is exciting but my boys wont be able to come as it is too late. I also liked thinking I still had a few days left of not knowing.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily....that is a quick bump up in the scans!!!!! I hope that you have a good experience with the MD/tech on hand and get some wonderful shots of your sweet baby!

Myrainbowgirl.....Good luck and fun times for you too....may the blood draw be over fast and the scan a bonding time with a cute little baby!!

MsBlakely....team green has it advantages, I can't help but think so! However, we were only members on it with DS1, although I have to say, I feel like I am on it again :)

Meeks....I would take every chance to be scanned and guess, but only now really feel confident about 20 weeks onward ones. We are still waiting to hear from the elective scan girl about my potential freebie one.

AFM....and my brother.....He has been finally airlifted yesterday evening and will see the MD this morning, but they are saying no surgery right now.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Argh morning sickness overwhelming today. Bring on my scan so I can see some cute baby action. Right now I have seen no bean and feel like
I'm just a fat sick maniac imagining there is a baby in there!

Gl rainbow! Emily so soon, exciting. Ladybugs I hope you get confirmation soon soon.

[Emily]

I hope your scan is lovely rainbow.

Ladybugs that sounds like good news about your brother - do they think he will escape surgery completely or have to have it later? Fingers crossed for him.

Weirdly not that happy about my early scan. I know i would go mad if i did not find out but part of me just wants the possibili of pink for a bit longer. Keep telling myself there is a 50 50 chance no matter what i thought i saw at 12 weeks. The tech was hopeful for me then so you never know.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Emily I think you are going to get a lovely pink surprise.

[Emily]

Emily I think you are going to get a lovely pink surprise.

That would be lovely! I am preparing myself for not hearing pink or blue as the tech is on holiday so it will just be the doc who might not be able to get a good shot! That would be a killer!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Waiting for Daisy....that was exactly how I felt @ 10 weeks ago...pukey, delusional and just waiting to feel movement. I only have 10-11 weeks of work left and while I think that this time will drag, it will fly right on by! Hope you feel better today!

Emily....I wanted to hold onto my dream of pink for longer for sure, so when I then decided to go and see the other u/s girl and heard boy, I kicked myself. I should have waited, then at least in my mind, I could have thought in pink. My rollercoaster right now could have been avoided, I should have just left alone, but thinking/knowing it was a third boy really forced me to embrace him and leave the girl dream behind. I am on this wild ride right now of not knowing health or gender or anything really......and am looking forward to the scan that answers at least one question.

My brother is just waiting right now....we should know more before the day is up!!!

[BeadinMom]

Emily, I think you're gonna hear pink, too!!! :)

My next OB appt is Wed...I wonder if they'll do the anatomy scan then? I'll be 15 weeks & a day....and I also wonder if I'll be able to hold out...lol.

Ladybugs, glad your brother is moving in the right direction!! Please keep us posted!! And please keep us posted on your sweet bean...you've been in my prayers. When is your next scan? Forgive me if you told us...you know...that pregnancy thing...LOL. Blood supply has been diverted from my brain to my uterus...LOL.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Latest and greatest on my brother!!!

1) Airlifted yesterday
2) No surgery needed for now...possibly none at all
3) Able to sit up!! :)

He still is going to have a rough time, the IV fluids are going in, but nothing is coming out. We are waiting to hear more...and praying for a miracle!

[myrainbowgirl]

Ladybugs - Wonderful news on your brother! Sounds like a miracle in the making!! Ugh on still waiting on your elective scan girl...what's up with that?? Glad you are hopeful, you should be!

Waiting4Daisy - Yuck, sounds like you feel terrible! So sorry! I hope you feel better soon! When is your scan?

Emily - Aahh, you're gonna hear girl so soon! Woohoo!!

AFM - Well, the good news is, baby looks great! NT super thin, saw nasal bone, measuring on target. I did have a small subchorionic hemorrhage...strange it hasn't caused any bleeding! Doc was not worried, thank goodness. Bad news next...boy nub all the way! I am disappointed, but not feeling devastated right now. 10-14 days till I find out for sure, I guess that's when I'll feel the devastation. I will be blown away if I hear girl! Will try to post a pic.

[myrainbowgirl]

12999

Here it is, 11 wks, 2 days. Baby's a little curled, but I think I still see an upward angle, that considered. She looked between the legs, too, and I definitely saw something. Looked like 2 tiny little balls with a ball on top of it...I have seen girl shots like that, but not many. I guess it's still early, but yeah...it's a boy. Sigh.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Myrainbowgirl.....your little baby is cute!! It is crazy to think that we will know gender both for sure right around the same time.

AFM...the elective scan girl I think is second guessing herself and is only going to do one around the 25 week mark....I guess that is better than nothing :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Myrainbowgirl....your scan at 11 weeks is so much better than mine....and it is still early!!! You could have your girl in there and I will only believe those blood results...holding out hope for you. You do have one cute bub in there!!!

[meeks32]

12999

Here it is, 11 wks, 2 days. Baby's a little curled, but I think I still see an upward angle, that considered. She looked between the legs, too, and I definitely saw something. Looked like 2 tiny little balls with a ball on top of it...I have seen girl shots like that, but not many. I guess it's still early, but yeah...it's a boy. Sigh.

My very honest opinion is thats a boy nub... BUT its early, and I wont believe anything until we hear the blood results. I'm sorry you have the uncertainty for a while but thankful in maximum 10 days you will know without doubt and not have to wait until the 20w scan to be sure. Big hugs

[BeadinMom]

Myrainbowgirl...did you do Maternit21??

[myrainbowgirl]

BeadinMom - Yes, should know for sure in 10-14 days. Are you still holding out??

[myrainbowgirl]

Myrainbowgirl....your scan at 11 weeks is so much better than mine....and it is still early!!! You could have your girl in there and I will only believe those blood results...holding out hope for you. You do have one cute bub in there!!!

Do you mean it's more clear? Or that yours looked even more boy than this? (And we all know you're having a girl!)

[BeadinMom]

Yes, trying!! LOL!!

Good luck with the test...it felt like an eternity.
So we'll entertain you till they come in...lol.

I'm undecided about your nub...the bottom seems curled, so it's hard to tell!!!

[black&gold]

Rainbow - My initial thought is boy but the baby is in a weird position so it's hard. I'm losing a lot of faith in nubs these days as it seems quite a few people have had it go the other way or whatever. Thankfully you'll know in a very short period of time so you can either celebrate or conquer the GD and get excited :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Do you mean it's more clear? Or that yours looked even more boy than this? (And we all know you're having a girl!)

Headache was talking..what I meant by clear was less blurry. My baby was this very tiny, super blurred blob in comparison. Your baby is nicely curled.....the next two weeks are going to be torture for me and you :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Good news on the brother front......he walked just a little, but was in pain. His bladder is doing something wrong....and we have not heard what the deal is still.

I am headed down to Vancouver for a Tuesday am appt....we have figured out how to use the cost saving options through our medical system, so I get a little vacation out of it. Lol, I have to look at the positive side of it :) The list of appts spans just 6 hours, but is going to be a busy, tiring day! There is not alot of options to get down there without me driving in a large city, in the heat....no way, I am so blessed by how all the little things are working together!!!

[Emily]

My rainbowgirl that is one cute baby. Congrats on a healthy scan. It does look more blue than pink but my tech told me that at that gestation you cannot be sure. How great to have blood tests to confirm. It is the not knowing that makes it so hard. When you know one way or another you can get on with bonding and loving your baby.

I am starting to worry about the scan now as the only person available isnt a tech just a normal OB. I also do not know how old their equipment is. I am bracing myself for more uncertainty. The next possible scan date is when i am 24 weeks which seems to make no sense for whatever other things they are looking for.

I want to make sure this baby has the best possible start so if there is anything wrong I want to know now as that would mean i could fly back to the Uk where the paediatric care is much better. I have no reason to think there is anything wrong i am just trying to get it all straight in my head. Control freak? Me? Never!

Ladybugs that is so great about your brother! Hopefully the bladder thing is just temporary.

[BeadinMom]

LOL Emily...you are so me!!!!!

[Soar]

Rainbow-11weeks is way to early even for a good nub shot. I know I said this before but go to in gender and look at their nubs it's 85 pages and they have a ton of 11wk nubs on there and honestly I would think 1/2 of the confirmed girls look boyish in my opinion. It might make you feel a lot better! Baby does look really curled in your pic as well. But also finding out in 10 days isn't terrible. I wanted to wait till the last second and here I am at almost 18 weeks and I feel like I am torturing myself until August 27th! I have no nub shots so I am just going off of cravings and feelings and stupid dreams I'm having and the fact that a butterfly is always appearing in my yard and the list goes on and on! I am a mess! I kind of wish I already knew so I could move on. KWIM?

[BeadinMom]

Soar....butterflies are my thing, too!! <3

We'll entertain you, too, while you wait :)

So lets talk about the funniest thing that ever happened or you ever did while swaying....
I'll go first...
(I shared this on another thread, but it's funny enough, I'll share it here, too)

So when I was swaying for DS3, I did the vinegar douche...but I mixed it myself in a bag. (So I may have put too much vinegar...lol)
Anyway, I came into the bedroom...looking all sexy...and climb into bed.
And my DH says, "What is that smell?? IT SMELLS LIKE SALAD DRESSING IN HERE!!!" LOL!!!
So I tell him to SHUT UP & DO IT....
Anyway, he tells me the next day that it BURNED when we did it...LOL!!
Yes, that was the first & last time I did a douche & no, I did not get pregnant that month!! LOL.

[Soar]

BeadinMom-that is amazing! I love that story!

Ok my funniest story while swaying not nearly as good as yours-
Before we DTD I was admit about using rephresh so I went into the bathroom and decided I would lay on the ground super quick and put it in and then go back to bed so DH would never be the wiser. Well little did I know my DH was walking into the bathroom while I was deciding how I was going to lay on the ground and then holding the stick and then trying to hurry and get it done. I had done this at like midnight. Well I get back into bed rather proud of myself for doing this so sneaky.....as soon as I laid down my DH puts his hand on my hand and says "I saw what you just did on the ground. I am going to be pissed if that stings me when we do it tomorrow!" And then he rolled over and went back to sleep!

I guess I wasn't as cool and sneaky as I thought! Oops!

[BeadinMom]

LOLOLOL Soar...I am totally cracking up!!!
The stuff we do!!!

[Soar]

Seriously! The funny thing is we think we are so brilliant and that they are so stupid and won't catch on to what we are doing! Bahahhaahaha!!!!! It does make me LoL when I think about all the things I was going to do and then got pregnant before I carried those plans out! Our poor DH's! They have no idea!!!! LOL!

Someone else join in! Beadin and I need some more laughs! :-)

[BeadinMom]

LOL!!! Exactly!!
PLEASE join in!!! :)

[Emily]

Not sure if this is funny or just plain mean! I scalded DHs bits in a boiling hot bath just before we did the do the month of my BFP! He complained it was too hot but the promise of sex meant he stayed in! His legs, bum and body up to his waist were still bright red when he got out. Whoops!

If this little one likes hot food or baths i will know why!

[BeadinMom]

LOLOL Emily!!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Well, this one's just plain embarrassing. I tooted during our attempt that gave us our BFP!! Never, and I mean NEVER, in our 10 years of marriage have I done that! I was just thinking, "Just finish...please don't get distracted, DH!" He obviously had no problems, but later down the road, he reminded me of my little "slip." So, considering how completely unladylike I was while conceiving this baby, it HAS to be a boy, I guess! LOL!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Thanks, ladies, for your honest opinions. Yes, I lean heavily blue on this nub, but I gotta say, there aren't even many boy nubs that look like this! It seems kinda big and so close to the end of the bum...most seem higher up the body (boy or girl). Kinda hoping this maybe isn't a nub, but part of the leg or something. But, I know I'm grasping at straws. At this point, I'm seriously praying for a miracle!!

[Soar]

Emily! Lol!

Rainbow-That is hilarious! Lol!!!!!!!!!!!

I can't sleep! I have a billion things racing thru my mind right now! These stories have made me LOL! Thanks ladies! Ok I'm going to try to go to sleep now! Please mind shut off!

[grace03]

Michigan Family Has 12 Boys, As Jay, Kateri Schwandt Welcome Son Tucker To Growing Brood (VIDEO) (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3726589)

Unbelievable !

I saw this article in the paper today in the world section it's amazing and her sister has 10 boys no girls !

[meeks32]

My funny swaying story is along the same lines as everyone else's... I read a out the vinegar douche and mixed mine myself. I got the proportions right but read you had to use warm water. Well, I mistook just how warm mine was, and using a nurophen seringe I stuck it right up there and pushed 5ml out... Then started jumping up and down in the shower because I burned like a BITCH! Needless to say the sex was not comfortable and I didn't conceive that month. It was my first and only douche!

[Smiley13]

LOL! All these stories are hilarious! Def helping me keep my mind off my scan. Mine is a Rephresh one-I used a little too much when we first started trying and when DH and I started to DTD he pulled his hand out of the covers and yelled "what the hell is that!". I used so much that white stuff was coming out of me. Oops..Needless to say we didn't conceive that month.

Rainbow- super cute baby! Nub does look a little boyish but in all my nubsessing yesterday I looked through the confirmed boy nubs and found many that look like perfect girl nubs so who knows. 50/50

Good distraction! Now back to my worrying:( Scan in 3.5 hours.

[Emily]

I am not even going to go into t he number if times one of the boys has nearly burst into the room during FR!!!! Just one of the reasons we decided to keep DS2 in a cot a bit longer;)

[myrainbowgirl]

Okay, ladies, completely desperate and grasping at straws, but here goes...is it possible that the obvious nub in my scan pic is not a nub?? Remember it is only 11 wks, 2 days. Looking at other nubs (both genders), it seems really thick, long, and pointy. It's closer to the end of the bum than most nubs are. The other two pics I got don't show a nub, I don't think, except one of them maybe has a nub below the cord (or leg) that looks like 2 white lines. I can try to upload the pic, but had major issues yesterday being able to do so. I looked back at all my boys' NT scan pics (ranging from 11 wks, 5 days to 12 wks, 3 days), and I really didn't see an obvious nub in any of them...although maybe one of them had a long, skinny white line in it (no fork seen). Honest opinions, is the pic I posted definitely a nub??

[I Love Ladybugs]

You girls lightened my day with your funny ttc stories.....I will have to think with the swaying between DS2 and this baby if we had any silly tales to tell. By the sounds of it, I was good to never have douched, refreshed it barely....I am boring girls!!!

I do know that this baby was conceived by bribing the boys with TV.....

Smiley...good luck with your scan! Hoping that your baby cooperates....and you can enjoy the appt!!!

[Emily]

Okay, ladies, completely desperate and grasping at straws, but here goes...is it possible that the obvious nub in my scan pic is not a nub?? Remember it is only 11 wks, 2 days. Looking at other nubs (both genders), it seems really thick, long, and pointy. It's closer to the end of the bum than most nubs are. The other two pics I got don't show a nub, I don't think, except one of them maybe has a nub below the cord (or leg) that looks like 2 white lines. I can try to upload the pic, but had major issues yesterday being able to do so. I looked back at all my boys' NT scan pics (ranging from 11 wks, 5 days to 12 wks, 3 days), and I really didn't see an obvious nub in any of them...although maybe one of them had a long, skinny white line in it (no fork seen). Honest opinions, is the pic I posted definitely a nub??

Don't worry about clutching at straws - we are all specialists in that!;) come to think of it the end looks really weird - like it has been cut off at an angle. What else could it be other than the nub? Not sure but i know what you mean it does look a bit strange and VERY angled fir 11 weeks. When will you have another scan?

[Waiting4Daisy]

Rainbow cute bub. Not convinced that's a nub, looks very angled for that gestation. I'm on the fence at the mo.

When I was using replens with my crap sway with ds3, my hubby loved to go on about my vaginal dryness (because it said that was what it was for). Naughty man!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Scan is the 15th of August.

I have been feeling miserable again after a stint of feeling a wee bit better. Sick, horrible upset tummy every freaking morning and so tired it feels like I've been hit by a truck. I'm back to work on Monday so have bought probiotics, ginger tea and floradix in a desperate bid to feel human.

I so desperately can't wait until my scan, feels so unreal at the moment.

[onthepond]

Ladybugs, so glad to hear that your brother is doing okay! How scary, I couldn't imagine. I am just amazed at how you are keeping it all together :) My brother and I are so close, that would just kill me!

Rainbowgirl - I honestly feel like it is just so early. I really would try to not think about it for now and let time pass. (Although I am in your boat and I know how hard that is!). Thinking of you and hoping it all works out the best :)

I am 11 weeks, 2 days today and still feeling icky!...last week baby measured a day ahead with good heartbeat of 152. Breathe. My acupuncturist (I was doing fertility yoga after my d&c because my cycles were all messed up) Anyway, she has been checking my pulse (different than the way we check our pulses) and wouldn't guess until this past week, but she told me that her guess is that I am having a boy. Crazy! I couldn't believe it though I don't want to put any stock in it. Boy or girl, either are great news for us...but I would love it to be a boy since we already have DD.

[onthepond]

Daisy, WOW that will be here before you know it! GOOD LUCK!

[BeadinMom]

Rainbowgirl...I think ANYTHING is possible. I searched through pages & pages of confirmed girl nubs...getting excited because they looked like mine!! And then I searched through pages of confirmed boy nubs & guess what? Some of them looked like mine!! LOL...We give it our best GUESSES, but in the end, it truly is just a guess!!


And you guys are hilarious!!! I love the funny stories!!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Thanks onthepond. Sorry you are feeling icky, I am too! Fx we feel better soon x

[black&gold]

12999

Here it is, 11 wks, 2 days. Baby's a little curled, but I think I still see an upward angle, that considered. She looked between the legs, too, and I definitely saw something. Looked like 2 tiny little balls with a ball on top of it...I have seen girl shots like that, but not many. I guess it's still early, but yeah...it's a boy. Sigh.


Rainbow - just stared at it for a good long while and I obviously don't know if it's a nub but I'm not sure what else it could be. Maybe just like how some nubs show almost as just a pencil thin line because of the placement of the wand, this is showing in a more chubby angle. The skull shape is also boyish, but we know that's not nearly as accurate as nubs. I definitely agree that it's super early and nubs aren't always reliable but I'd probably *myself* just assume boy from everything and then maybe be surprised later on. I'm seriously not wanting to sound harsh or anything because I'd love that to be your DD, but I'm just thinking what would be going through MY mind if it were my picture. Again, I'm not an expert nub-er but just from seeing everything on the site I know how it goes. They are all so different so it's seriously really hard to know! I don't even know what gender My baby is - no nub shot or any clues from 20 week scan and I'm grasping at straws thinking how it could possible be a girl after my super strong girl sway turned more boy sway the month I got my BFP. Like everyone I still think there's a possibility of this being your girl because I don't know how much I trust nubs!!

As I side note.. I do have to say that random floating thing on the left looks more like an upright penis than your nub does :)

[myrainbowgirl]

Waiting4Daisy - Woohoo on your scan! NT, right? Feel better soon!

Onthepond - Sorry you feel so yucky! When is your NT scan??

BeadinMom - Thanks for starting the "funny story" question. I needed something to cheer me up!

Thank you ladies for your honest opinions. Had a breakdown on the phone with DH a little while ago. The boys (all 3, even the baby) were being awful, and he called in the middle of it. He's having to work today, and has been working lots of hours lately...it's summer and the kids are on each other's nerves and mine, too! Anyway, I just unloaded on him, crying that I cannot handle another boy, as I can't even handle the 3 I have and blah, blah, blah. I was a blubbering mess. Thankfully, he was very sweet and encouraging and said he would be home soon. He thinks we should just have faith that this is a girl, but man, after what I've seen (Ramzi & nub theory), it's tough to think that. I am being realistic, maybe pessimistic, but I feel it will be a miracle if it's a girl.

All that being said, I have decided that in the pic I posted, something is off about the "nub." On one hand, what else could it be, but it is really too big for a nub! I looked back AGAIN (can you tell I'm a boy mom with all my obsessing?? lol) at my boys' NT scan pics, and after searching them each very hard, determined that in DS1's (11 weeks, 6 days) there is a definite nub in the pic. Thing is, it is shaped like a perfect girl nub (long skinny white line with a fork on the end...have never seen the fork before today, cause it was a little darker than the line), but with a slight up angle. I'm pretty sure if I had posted it on here back then, I would have gotten boy guesses, because of the up angle, but it is definitely long, skinny, and forked. So, I am thinking something is weird about the pic that I got...nubs just aren't that huge, especially at this gestation! I think it could be partly a nub, but that somehow maybe something else is there, too, like the leg or cord or something.

I looked at the other two pics of this baby, and while at first I didn't think there was a nub in either, now I think there could be a nub in both. One looks boyish (thin, short white line with a possible little bump at the top...which could also be a part of the leg, since it's extending right above it), the other girlish (two white lines right under a cord-looking thingy). Sooo....totally confused at the moment, but still leaning boy. Will be utterly shocked if it's a girl. Ok. I think I will stop selfishly going on about my nub shots so that you all can get a break!! Haha. Will know soon enough, I guess.

[BeadinMom]

Rainbowgirl, I can't remember where I read this, but one of the techs posted on a forum pics of a baby's nub....one pic looking girly...one pic looking boyish....SAME BABY.
Her point was, depending on the angle of the wand and the baby's position, it could go either way - from a pic.
Did your tech guess gender for you???

[Soar]

Rainbow-I agree I think that pic may not be the nub. It is really large and def has an angle on the end which most nubs I've seen don't have that at all. I think you have every right to hold on to your pink dream until you know for sure and I think you have a great shot at a girl! Try not to worry to much and just enjoy being able to think this could still be pink. Bc guess what---it could be!!!! :-)

[myrainbowgirl]

Rainbowgirl, I can't remember where I read this, but one of the techs posted on a forum pics of a baby's nub....one pic looking girly...one pic looking boyish....SAME BABY.
Her point was, depending on the angle of the wand and the baby's position, it could go either way - from a pic.
Did your tech guess gender for you???

She didn't guess, and I didn't ask. I thought what I was looking at was boyish, so I think I just didn't want to get it confirmed by her! So sad!

[Mrs_P]

sorry to jump in your chat but in my time on here i haven't seen a boy nub look like that at 11+2 they all look like girls at that stage nubs don't rise until mid week 11, early week 12. are the dates they gave you right by your opk? In my opinion your either further along or thats not a nub (poss part of leg - do you have any other shots for comparison?). Maybe post in us forum if you haven't already, lovemy4 or nbp may have some better idea.

[Mrs_P]

Rainbowgirl, I can't remember where I read this, but one of the techs posted on a forum pics of a baby's nub....one pic looking girly...one pic looking boyish....SAME BABY.
Her point was, depending on the angle of the wand and the baby's position, it could go either way - from a pic.
Did your tech guess gender for you???

beadin i remember lovemy4 saying angles can affect the way a boy nub looks and that it was much easier to make a boy nub look girly than it was to make a true girl nub look like a boys

[Waiting4Daisy]

My friend on ig got a heap of boy guesses on her nub that turned out to be a girl. She explained something to do with the amniotic fluid making the nub flap or something, I can't remember exactly but babe was definitely a girl. I would be very surprised as mrs p said if a nub at that gestation would be that angled. My other friend had a flat nub at 11 weeks that turned out to be a girl.

I'd definitely keep hope. Nubs are not 100% and can go either way. Don't let it get to you now. You don't know anything for sure. I'm keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you.

I think it is an nt scan, it says it is but I remember once they wouldn't do the nuchal fold measurement at one hospital so it was basically just a dating scan (they wouldn't do it because some hospitals didn't have the training to measure nuchal folds so because of that no hospital could offer it as would have been unfair apparently).

[black&gold]

Rainbow - I definitely think you should just pretend you didn't get the scan and carry on until you actually get confirmation from a test or 20 weeks ultrasound. There is so much variation with nubs, and babies for that matter so I just think you can't get too convinced either way by a simple nub shot. Like the PP mentioned, the way the wand is placed and the angle of the shot add so many variables that it's too hard to know. You definitely still have a shot at a girl - especially with such a good sway!

[myrainbowgirl]

Thank you all, ladies, for your encouragement. I have been so down today, it's ridiculous. Got in a giant fight with DH because I was being bitchy with the boys (they were TOUGH today)...fight ended with me going upstairs, locking myself in our bedroom, and crying my eyes out. OMG. I am so not a fan of how GD is affecting me. Of course, I am a grown-up, and I can choose to behave differently. I am ashamed of my negativity and attitude about all of this...this sweet baby didn't ask to be conceived, and will be a beautiful blessing to our family no matter what. It usually takes me FOREVER to get pregnant, and this time it happened right away. I cannot even explain enough what a complete shock that is!! This baby is SO meant to be, and I know it in my heart. If it's another little boy, I can't wait to see what is so special about him that God meant him for our family! This is going to be my new attitude. I will know gender soon enough...between Aug. 19th-23rd (MaterniT21). Someone asked about my next scan...but I will already know gender for a month before then, haha! Anyway, thanks for letting me rant, ladies, and for your awesome encouragement. I really do feel better already!

Oh, and Mrs. P...you asked about my dates. Yes, they match with my OPK. Baby was measuring 11+5 days at appt. (at 11+2), but at my 8-wk check at 8+1, was measuring 7+6 at the largest measurement. So, my dates are good. Thanks again so much for your input!

[meeks32]

Rainbow I think that new attitude sounds great, and I was me that said you can choose how you react to things but please don't think that means you aren't allowed to have a period of wallowing, bitchyness, being sad, grumpy, crying or smashing things! Everyone is allowed to grieve and be less than their perfect self for a while with GD, and even a number of times. Everything is allowed! A goal to pick yourself up and get on with it with positivity is always a lovely goal, but don't feel you aren't allowed time to process it.

Can't wait for materni21 results, at least they are definite!

[Smiley13]

Sorry your feeling down Rainbow:-( I really do think that is one huge nub for 11 weeks so it is very possible it could be something else. I agree that you should just forget what you saw and wait hopefully for your results. I think you still have a 50/50 shot at a girl:-) Fingers X for you!

[Soar]

Rainbow-don't be hard on yourself. Your DH can take it I'm sure. Feeling sad and upset are totally normal feelings. I totally understand your feeling of limbo right now. It's actually probably making you more anxious. You want something really bad and now you have to wait to see What the results are! Anyone would be on edge till they got Some answers! Although I really think you have a chance for a girl! Come here to vent, we are ready! Hugs to you!

[onthepond]

Rainbow, so sorry you have been feeling down. I am quite sure that we can all relate to that :) I LOVE your new attitude about everything, though and I am impressed with your strength and positivity. Honestly, that is kind of where I am at with things to. After a loss in February, I just feel blessed to be pregnant again and this baby, whether boy or girl, will change our life in the most amazing way.

As far as the emotions, I am with you sister :), I freaked out on DH today who just returned home from an all weekend bachelor party - must be nice. Thank God this is one of our last friends to get married but chasing a 21 month old around while feeling super sick and exhausted (not to mention emotional) was not my idea of a relaxing weekend that my body needed so much. I cannot wait to be out of the first trimester. And DH knows he definitely isn't getting another weekend away any time soon :)

Good luck and know we're all thinking of you!

[Emily]

12 hours till my 20 week scan. We have a surprise guest from over seas staying so at least i wont be able to wallow if i hear blue.

Rainbow if my boys were any naughtier at the moment they would be in prison!

[BeadinMom]

Yay Em!!! Counting down!!! Cannot wait to hear!!! XO

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - OMG, your scan!!! Can't wait to hear! FX for pink!

You ladies are all amazing. Thank you SO much for your encouragement. I am feeling better, and so far trying to stay positive, knowing my outcome could easily go the opposite way I want it to. Just remembering that this little one is meant to be!

You are also all right that I still have a 50/50 chance. 11 wks is sooo early. FWIW, I think I found the nub within the "nub." It doesn't show up on the pic I posted here, but in my printout, there's a long, skinny, flat, forked nub underneath the pointy end of the giant "nub." It's faint, but it is there, no doubts. Took me awhile to see it. At this gestation, it does NOT mean it's a girl. It just means there's still a chance. :)

Hope you all had a fabulous weekend!!

[Soar]

Emily-Hoping you hear pink today!

Rainbow-glad you may have found a long flat nub!

[BeadinMom]

Me, too!!!
And me, too!!!

What Soar just said!!! :)

[BeadinMom]

Ugh....
TMI warning, but I am having a horrible time with diarrhea. :(
I have a doctor's appt Wed & plan to mention it to him, but it's so bad, I've lost 6 lbs in the time I've become pregnant....not that I couldn't afford to lose weight, but still.
I hope this goes away soon!!!
Anybody else dealing with this??

[Waiting4Daisy]

Beadin as you know my tummy was awful too. I followed someone's advice here (sorry I forgot who said) and bought probiotics called Prio7 I think it was called and being taking them twice a day as well as drinking water with lemon, eating probiotic yoghurt and eating healthy stuff and my tummy is hooray much much much better!!!

Hope this maybe helps you. Mine was awful as well as nausea but sadly I am up 14 pounds!!!

[BeadinMom]

Thanks Daisy!! I'm definitely looking into those!!
We're going to Disney World soon & I definitely don't want to be dealing with this there!! XO

[Waiting4Daisy]

Oh I hear you! I was back at work today and panicking (been off for 7 weeks as I'm a teacher with school holidays) but I was so pleased that my tummy wasn't really upset (has been terrible in the mornings). Also the probiotics have made the top of my tummy stop bloating and I was getting bad gas pains at night and now they are much better too :-).

[BeadinMom]

Sounds like just what I need!!!
Thanks!! XO

[Soar]

Emily-I've been stalking on all! Hope you are out enjoying your day!

[myrainbowgirl]

BeadinMom - I've had diarrhea, too, but it's only occasional and mild. I am usually constipated! But yes, probiotics are great!

[Emily]

Hi ladies. No news:( just regular OB appointment heartbeat great but no proper scan till 22 weeks. We saw a head, heart and legs as he zoomed in on the heartbeat but not clues. The doc is lovely but the receptionist is a bit dizzy hence the confusion.

[meeks32]

Beadin as you know my tummy was awful too. I followed someone's advice here (sorry I forgot who said) and bought probiotics called Prio7 I think it was called and being taking them twice a day as well as drinking water with lemon, eating probiotic yoghurt and eating healthy stuff and my tummy is hooray much much much better!!!

Hope this maybe helps you. Mine was awful as well as nausea but sadly I am up 14 pounds!!!

That was my advice, so glad it worked for you, worked wonders for me!!

[Soar]

Emily-Bummer on the scan! Glad baby is looking great tho!

AFM-this past weekend was awful! I was visiting my grandma in ICU. We thought we were going to lose her! So scary! Now she seems to be doing much better thank God! She is 80 and although has had a long wonderful life I can't bear to think of her not being here. Her birthday is the day after this baby is due and I would be crushed if she wasn't here to welcome baby3 with us. I lost my granny in February her birthday was 2 days after this baby is due. Ugh life is so hard sometimes. So far she seems to be out of the woods so that is excellent news!

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily-Bummer on the scan! Glad baby is looking great tho!

AFM-this past weekend was awful! I was visiting my grandma in ICU. We thought we were going to lose her! So scary! Now she seems to be doing much better thank God! She is 80 and although has had a long wonderful life I can't bear to think of her not being here. Her birthday is the day after this baby is due and I would be crushed if she wasn't here to welcome baby3 with us. I lost my granny in February her birthday was 2 days after this baby is due. Ugh life is so hard sometimes. So far she seems to be out of the woods so that is excellent news!

Oh no, Soar! So sorry to hear your grandma isn't well! So scary! I will pray for the situation. I forgot...when do you find out gender?

Emily - Responded on the other thread. Only 2 more weeks! It'll go by fast. :)

Beadin - Hope you feel better soon!

AFM - Trying to keep my chin up, and trying (not super successfully) to stay off google. Getting on there only makes me feel worse! Ugh. Anyway, physically not doing so hot, either...feeling more sick these days than I did earlier on. Just nausea, not throwing up thank goodness. I also have this terrible taste in my mouth that comes and goes, and sometimes certain things I eat taste like chemicals. Yuck!

[BeadinMom]

Soar...praying for your grandmother...<3

Thanks Rainbow!! XOXO

[Waiting4Daisy]

Oh Emily, at least they'll be able to get a brilliant shot at 22 weeks! Glad that bub was ok, always reassuring to see that wee heart beating.

[Am3a]

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Hi ladies, I had my 19 week scan today... baby looked amazing and all is on track. When asked if we wanted to find out I couldn't say NO fast enough... but spent the entire appointment scouring for clues, even when she was checking all the vital organs all I could think or look for were BITS! The delivery room surprise is what I personally need to overcome any GD... how can I be sad if I see a beautiful, perfect little boy? I've attached a pic if anyone can make out a nub... The picture is looking directly down at the baby, not side on. (Not sure how reliable it is at 19w?!) Thanks anyhoo! x

[BeadinMom]

No idea, Am....but a beautiful baby!!!

[black&gold]

Seriously, this pregnancy is killing me! A major reason why I'm already encouraging DH to go get his V done! I *think* I've been having severe anxiety since 5 weeks (simply because I don't really know if it's classified as anxiety what I'm feeling.) Up until my 20 week scan I would be so sick with worry something would show up on the scan so I think thats where most of my anxiety came from but now that it's over with and showed everything looking perfect I'm still waking up every morning with a nervous/sick butterfly feeling in my stomach for no reason! I'm a stay at home mom so it's not like i'm worried about work for the day or whatever. I got to bed and wake up feeling so tired and anxious like my brains been worrying all night long. I am going to be so happy when December comes because I'm having a hard time keeping it under control and I refuse to take medication for it while pregnant. Ugh.. the joys. Never had this symptom before, that's for sure!

[grace03]

Seriously, this pregnancy is killing me! A major reason why I'm already encouraging DH to go get his V done! I *think* I've been having severe anxiety since 5 weeks (simply because I don't really know if it's classified as anxiety what I'm feeling.) Up until my 20 week scan I would be so sick with worry something would show up on the scan so I think thats where most of my anxiety came from but now that it's over with and showed everything looking perfect I'm still waking up every morning with a nervous/sick butterfly feeling in my stomach for no reason! I'm a stay at home mom so it's not like i'm worried about work for the day or whatever. I got to bed and wake up feeling so tired and anxious like my brains been worrying all night long. I am going to be so happy when December comes because I'm having a hard time keeping it under control and I refuse to take medication for it while pregnant. Ugh.. the joys. Never had this symptom before, that's for sure!

Oh Hun that is something you could do without ! What about seeing a psychologist to learn some relaxation techniques ? I'm on Zoloft for anxiety and depression which I didn't want to take while preg but it does help me a lot and my psychologist hypnotised me as well which helps with the gender disappointment . I hope you can get some help with it as it can be taxing on you xxx

[BeadinMom]

I took Zoloft for DS3's pregnancy & he is the SMARTEST kid...I often wonder if that's why.

I totally understand how you feel, MsB...
I get anxious, too.
My doctor wouldn't put me on Zoloft again, but did tell me I could take 1 Benadryl to take the edge off when it strikes.
If I were you, I'd talk to my doctor.

So sorry you're dealing with this...it's the worst.

[black&gold]

Grace, Beadin - I have friends who've taken it through pregnancy too and been totally fine. I've never been on any anxiety meds before pregnancy so I just wouldn't want to try and figure out what works for me for the first time ever when pregnant - and I still feel like I can somewhat control it. But it's hard and I'm glad you guys have found ways to relieve it because it's so annoying!! I am going to bring it up again at my next appt. and see what she says. Glad to hear I'm not alone though.. it's so weird and having never experienced it before its definitely tiring!

Another reason why I think I want to stay team green and not cave at my next ultrasound because I know with GD added on top of this i'd be a loose canon! Already I'm so snappy and on the edge if i'm anxious about something so I like the idea of having a full day or two by myself with DH in the hospital to deal with our GD if this is a boy and then move on so that I can be a good mom for my boys instead of take out my random moments of frustration on them for the next 15 weeks!

[Soar]

Beadin and Rainbow-thank you so much for the prayers. She needs them. Took another downhill turn this morning. This is a real roller coaster ride. :-(

MrsBlakely-hopefully you get some relief or you are able to get some restful sleep asap. You definitely need one or the other. Hugs!

Ladybugs-hoping you are getting some very healthy pink news today!

AFM-I ate 2 donuts this morning and had nachos for lunch. I am definitely eating my emotions today. :-( Hoping for good news tomorrow on Grandma and then maybe I will have a salad!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar...I just want to say how sorry I am about your grandma. That was us about 1.5 years ago and while she pulled through...we know that the next time around it will be somber news. Lots of hugs....I can only imagine how you feel when preggo and dealing with news like this...do you have any good support around you???? ((((hugs))))

AFM...just bumped to second position...roughly 45 more mins of waiting for the second half of the appt. I will update in the TTCpink and beyond thread, unless things go wild and then Dream will for me.

[meeks32]

Soar I'm so sorry about your grandma, I have lost all 4 of my grandparents now, but my grandma who passed 2 years ago was the most difficult as I was so close to her (she lived with us for years before needing a higher level of care). I struggle with the idea this baby will be the only one that my grandma didn't meet. Thats why if its a girl, the middle name will be May, which was her middle name.

[meeks32]

MsBlakely I'm sorry you have anxiety in pregnancy, I had it with ds1 and it got worse after a horrible delivery. I often wish I had spoken to a psychologist earlier, and gotten some relaxation techniques because i've since had friends that learned some with postnatal anxiety (remember how postnatal depression is so promoted now? well they are finally recognising anxiety as part of the same disorder, which stems from a hormonal imbalance due to the pregnancy and or delivery, and sometimes is made worse or triggered by traumatic birth or loss). So I've had friends who needed medication in or after pregnancy (there is some trial and error in finding the right one, so as someone said, experimenting in pregnancy isnt ideal if you've never been on one before) and also friends that got help from a psychologist that specialised in prenatal and postnatal anxiety, and all had a good measure of success. I would start by hunting down a psychologist that specialises in disorders of this spectrum because the techniques they give you are going to be far more effective.

hugs

[meeks32]

good luck ladybugs!

[myrainbowgirl]

MsBlakely - Funny you should bring this up...was just thinking today that I am possibly on the edge of depression. Never been "clinically" depressed before, and never dealt with even mild depression (for an extended period of time)...so have never been on meds, either. But now I am wondering if I should talk to my doc about it! I have a friend who has PPD with her babies, and also struggles outside of pregnancy. In her last pg, she took Zoloft, and I think the transition after baby was here was much better. Doc had her wean off before delivery, but I'm pretty sure she went back on after she was born. I can't remember the reason for the weaning off...but anyway, don't know if I'm quite there yet (needing meds), but I just have a feeling if I hear boy next week, it will send me over the edge. You are so right...taking it out on your family is a real possibility. I feel like that's what I'm doing right now with the boys...I'm not really even able to enjoy them. DS1 is just a hard kid sometimes, and right now, I feel like I can barely put up with him. I find myself sinking to some of his childish behavior, because so much of what he says/does rubs me the wrong way (he is very controlling, must be in charge, must be first, etc., etc.). DS2 is my easiest, but he sometimes has pottying issues that drive me up the wall (he's been trained since 2.5, and he's 4 on Thursday). DS3 is absolutely cute as a button, but he's turned a corner recently into doing things that I think he knows (even at 15 months) are naughty. Just ridiculously into things, throwing his food, cup, etc. It, once again, drives me nuts. DS2 started preschool today, which I know will help, since the older 2 fight constantly. DS1 won't start school till Sept. 3 (he is going to a brand-new school and the building is still being finished). That will help tremendously, I know. But I feel TERRIBLE for honestly feeling like it's tough to enjoy them right now. And I'm about to add another one?? OMG!!!! I seriously thought I would have a girl, that is why I got pg. See?? I need help, don't I?? Ugh, totally get how you feel!

Ladybugs - Thinking of you. Can't wait to hear!

Soar - Still praying. I can't imagine dealing with that while pregnant! Keep us posted.

AFM - Aah, see above. Haha!

[meeks32]

MsBlakely - Funny you should bring this up...was just thinking today that I am possibly on the edge of depression. Never been "clinically" depressed before, and never dealt with even mild depression (for an extended period of time)...so have never been on meds, either. But now I am wondering if I should talk to my doc about it! I have a friend who has PPD with her babies, and also struggles outside of pregnancy. In her last pg, she took Zoloft, and I think the transition after baby was here was much better. Doc had her wean off before delivery, but I'm pretty sure she went back on after she was born. I can't remember the reason for the weaning off...but anyway, don't know if I'm quite there yet (needing meds), but I just have a feeling if I hear boy next week, it will send me over the edge. You are so right...taking it out on your family is a real possibility. I feel like that's what I'm doing right now with the boys...I'm not really even able to enjoy them. DS1 is just a hard kid sometimes, and right now, I feel like I can barely put up with him. I find myself sinking to some of his childish behavior, because so much of what he says/does rubs me the wrong way (he is very controlling, must be in charge, must be first, etc., etc.). DS2 is my easiest, but he sometimes has pottying issues that drive me up the wall (he's been trained since 2.5, and he's 4 on Thursday). DS3 is absolutely cute as a button, but he's turned a corner recently into doing things that I think he knows (even at 15 months) are naughty. Just ridiculously into things, throwing his food, cup, etc. It, once again, drives me nuts. DS2 started preschool today, which I know will help, since the older 2 fight constantly. DS1 won't start school till Sept. 3 (he is going to a brand-new school and the building is still being finished). That will help tremendously, I know. But I feel TERRIBLE for honestly feeling like it's tough to enjoy them right now. And I'm about to add another one?? OMG!!!! I seriously thought I would have a girl, that is why I got pg. See?? I need help, don't I?? Ugh, totally get how you feel!

Ladybugs - Thinking of you. Can't wait to hear!

Soar - Still praying. I can't imagine dealing with that while pregnant! Keep us posted.

AFM - Aah, see above. Haha!

I can completely identify with this, feeling like they are driving you mad, or sinking into their behaviour when you are tired, stressed, at the end of your tether. my ds1 is also super challenging and even at 4 is far more work than ds2 who just turned 2. Mind you even the easy kids turn 2 eventually, and now we are having tantrums that involve dropping to the floor and refusing to move. They are usually timed right when i'm trying to get them into the car to go to daycare/work or bringing shopping inside or something. I physically cant pick him up anymore when he does that, so my old response of just throwing him over my shoulder, getting him to where he needs to be then letting him cry it out and get over it isnt working now i'm pregnant. I already hurt my back trying it! I tried walking off on him (like walking down the hallway to the garage and pretending to leave) but he just gets up and goes off to do whatever he wanted, rather than following like ds1 would have. I tried talking him out of it but we all know how useful that is with 2 year old tantrums. Thankfully because hes easygoing the tantrums dont last long at all, and are not frequent so hoping he just grows out of it and we can not draw too much attention to it in the meantime. Ds1 is still my biggest challenge and I often wonder if i'm mad having more!!

[black&gold]

Rainbow, Meeks - I totally feel you and this anxiety is constantly making me question or worry if I made the wrong decision having another. To us as a family, two just doesn't seem right and feels so incomplete so it was a given we'd have a third but 100% I'm stopping there. I worry I'll be in over my head too as boys can be hard - I have the same thing, DS1 is more of a challenge at almost 4 and DS2 who's almost 2 is starting the tantrum/whiny stage so days do get long an tiring. I think having depression, or anything like that is only made worse by being a mom as that's such a stressful job already! I just know i'll have another boy and worry my life will be chaos. I definitely am going to watch myself once the baby comes because I will go on something if I need to as I also know it can become worse after. I have 3 close girlfriends who all have anxiety and depression and are all on medication for pretty severe PPD. They all struggled with it years before having babies so I'm sure thats why they have bad cases, but it does seem to be quite common. Luckily I'm able to keep most emotions under control, and DH is so good at talking me out of my crazy brain! I can tell its almost all hormone related as I don't even know what's causing the panicky feeling. Kids are amazing and although they can somedays drive me mad, I still could go in a cry watching them sleep and thinking of how fast they grow. I think I need to really keep that in mind with this baby to know that all the hard stages DO pass!

[meeks32]

I agree. We are in exactly the same boat and wanted more than two, so this wasn't just about swaying to begin with for me, and I am 99% sure this will be our last. DH is 'having the chop' after this one is born. I still worry that i'm stupid to add to this chaos when I already have plenty of moments where i'm far from the ideal parent. The one thought that calms me is that this is our last. If I have a hard day I think, yes but this will only be for a short period of time, and sure its going to get worse before it gets better but its going to be over very soon too. Or that really really constant push-every-button sleep deprived part is anyway.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I posted on the other thread...and tried to update my siggie, but I have been quite emotional on it all.

[BeadinMom]

Aww Ladybugs...you are in my thoughts & prayers.
If she's anything like her mama, she's got this...<3

[grace03]

Soar sorry about your grandma xx

Ladybugs I'm happy for you getting your daughter and praying she will be healthy and that your pregnancy isn't too stressful xx

[grace03]

Anyone else getting Braxton hicks ? I'm almost 23 weeks and definitely getting them soo annoying lol

[I Love Ladybugs]

Thanks girls..I will know in 15-17 weeks...boy that sounds so far away, but I do know that each day will go by so quickly. I want to enjoy this pregnancy, but I do feel robbed in several ways....I have to say that for the 4 weeks I had heard boy, I felt that GD was stealing my joy and now that I know I have my girl, fear of health issues is clouding my excitement. I will try to keep you all posted, but if I am not posting, please know that I will update as best I can. The next two days I will still be out of town, so it is harder to log on.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Anyone else getting Braxton hicks ? I'm almost 23 weeks and definitely getting them soo annoying lol

Just a few, most of them when vehicles suddenly stop. I have been keeping really well hydrated, so not getting too many this time around.

[meeks32]

Thanks girls..I will know in 15-17 weeks...boy that sounds so far away, but I do know that each day will go by so quickly. I want to enjoy this pregnancy, but I do feel robbed in several ways....I have to say that for the 4 weeks I had heard boy, I felt that GD was stealing my joy and now that I know I have my girl, fear of health issues is clouding my excitement. I will try to keep you all posted, but if I am not posting, please know that I will update as best I can. The next two days I will still be out of town, so it is harder to log on.

I replied in the other thread but this is exactly what I was thinking too, it's not fair that things are taking away from your excitement and enjoyment of the pregnancy and getting your girl. X

[Tree]

Ladybugs I replied in other thread too.

Grace, yes been having BH for ages!

[Soar]

Ladybugs-I know how scary percentages are! The dr's that have been taking care of my grandma love to give percentages! I find them mind numbing and very worrisome. Although I will say they give a 50/50 chance of her getting pneumonia or a blood clot and so far she hasn't had either and she has been in ICU since friday! So with that being said she is beating their 50/50 odds and she's 80 and in very poor health. So if she is doing it your sweet little baby girl has a far better shot at being perfect and healthy aside from the issues you already know of. So 97% of nothing being wrong with chromosomes sounds like fantastic odds! Although any chance of anything is super scary. We will add your little girl to our prayer list!

Congrats on the excellent news of a daughter! And keep us posted when you can! Hugs to you!!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks & MsBlakely - So glad I'm not alone. I haven't really told anyone but DH how I've been feeling. So thank you!!

Soar - So glad your grandma is fighting! Praying!

Ladybugs - Replied in the other thread. Praying still!

Grace - I'm too early for BH, but will be interesting to see when they start, since this is my 4th baby, too.

[Soar]

Rainbow-so glad you feel safe to express your feelings here. It's really good you are writing it down and getting them out. They will definitely get worse if you don't so keep writing here if it helps you! I also think the thought of adding to the family can be really overwhelming. I'm trying at the moment to not think about that to much. I think the fact that I only have 2 hands but will have 3 children under 4 is really scary! So don't feel bad that you are thinking how will I do all this with 1 more! Plus that kind of makes you brilliant and a great mom that you are thinking ahead and planning how this will all work out once your number 4 gets here!

I like your thoughts on God's plan. I am really holding on to that as well. Remember the song you suggested on here? Well I heard it on the radio today while I was driving and I thought of you and myself and how we are just totally going to have to put this in God's hands bc otherwise we will go insane wondering why and what if. That song really made me feel good today. Thanks again for recommending it! I read a passage that said God doesn't ask us to understand him he asks us to trust him. Oh that is so much easier said than done but that also rings true on so many levels in my life right now! its So hard to trust, that is something I really need to work on! Hope you are getting some rest. I hope I hear that song on the radio again tomorrow! Heading to see my grandma in the morning and I need to hear it!

[Emily]

Soar, sorry about your Nan. I really hope she gets better soon.

Ladybugs i replied on the other thread. I agree it is so unfair that you are having some of your preggo joy. My sister in law had a baby late in life and her whole pregnancy was one test after the other. In the end her baby was fine and she wished she had never seen a doctor! I know they are more prepared when they know there may be complications but that doesn't make it any easier.

OK so the one more child question is tricky isn't it? My house guest asked if we were having another in the hope that this one would be good! He was only joking but a horrid doubt came into my mind - am i having another in the hope that it will be a lovely obedient girl? What if it is an outrageously naughty boy or a demon daughter? Ahhh! What have I done? LOL

No braxton Hicks for me but (TMI alert) very intense tightening of the whole belly when I have the big O.

[black&gold]

Ladybug - Thinking of you during the stressful time but so happy for you that regardless of the outcome she is still going to be your daughter and an amazingly special one at that!!!! 97% odds are pretty amazing, but I know when you're in the situation it's hard to always think positively! Thinking of you and your sweet baby!

Grace - I'm getting Braxton hicks very often. I'd say the probably started a good two weeks ago if not more and I'm 23 weeks tomorrow. I got them with DS2 from about 20 weeks on too and was sure I'd have him early because of how often I had them but he came right at 39 weeks.

[Soar]

Thanks ladies for all the well wishes for Grandma. This morning they informed us she is being released from the hospital! We were all very surprised! Seems she is in no shape to leave but here we are. The next couple of days will give us a much better idea so we will see how it goes I guess. So frustrated with her doctors and all the "well we don't know what's wrong with her but she can't stay here." Comments. I want to shake these people with their 5 day hospital stay rules and ask if this was their loved one would they be ok with them being released? So annoying and so the roller coaster ride continues and so does my bad eating!

No Braxton hicks contractions over here so I guess that's really good!

As far as more children goes.....since we have had a ton of family come visit for Grandma I have gotten that question so many times this week. 3 kids huh? Had to try 1 more time? Trying for a girl huh? Oh hope this one is a girl. You really need a girl. Do you want this baby to be a girl? Maybe you can try again if its not? Oh man....I was smiling thru it all but my goodness they were all asking me the same question! My filter was about to blow, but instead I just ate a French fry! Haha! I think we will be fine with 3. It will be crazy but I really like it that way. My answer is always yes we are very excited and can't wait! 3 after all is the new 2! Haha! Normally they laugh and we move on.

[onthepond]

Soar, great news about your grandma, will send more positive thoughts your way! You are amazing for keeping it all together :)

[onthepond]

Side note, are any of you ladies eating lunch meat? My dr told me no during my 1st pregnancy because she has lost 2 babies to listeria with patients so I have skipped it with this one as well, but at a work meeting today all they had was lunch meat sandwiches...I ate plain bread and cheese :)

[meeks32]

Side note, are any of you ladies eating lunch meat? My dr told me no during my 1st pregnancy because she has lost 2 babies to listeria with patients so I have skipped it with this one as well, but at a work meeting today all they had was lunch meat sandwiches...I ate plain bread and cheese :)

In Australia we are told no cold meats or lunch meats unless they are cooked in a meal for 3+mins at boiling temp. Mind you, 3rd time around I have made a few exceptions but only at places where I know its clean and hygienic. Technically you aren't supposed to, so you did the right thing.

[meeks32]

Thanks ladies for all the well wishes for Grandma. This morning they informed us she is being released from the hospital! We were all very surprised! Seems she is in no shape to leave but here we are. The next couple of days will give us a much better idea so we will see how it goes I guess. So frustrated with her doctors and all the "well we don't know what's wrong with her but she can't stay here." Comments. I want to shake these people with their 5 day hospital stay rules and ask if this was their loved one would they be ok with them being released? So annoying and so the roller coaster ride continues and so does my bad eating!

No Braxton hicks contractions over here so I guess that's really good!

As far as more children goes.....since we have had a ton of family come visit for Grandma I have gotten that question so many times this week. 3 kids huh? Had to try 1 more time? Trying for a girl huh? Oh hope this one is a girl. You really need a girl. Do you want this baby to be a girl? Maybe you can try again if its not? Oh man....I was smiling thru it all but my goodness they were all asking me the same question! My filter was about to blow, but instead I just ate a French fry! Haha! I think we will be fine with 3. It will be crazy but I really like it that way. My answer is always yes we are very excited and can't wait! 3 after all is the new 2! Haha! Normally they laugh and we move on.

I agree, 3 will be crazy but I do like it that way too. I get bored easily and like to be super busy, if i'm honest!!!

So glad about your grandma! But its frustrating when the hospital has a different opinion to the family who know her so well. Hang in there.

ps. DH's family are the kings of comments like that! So frustrating. I've started saying really inappropriate things to shut them up, like "oh what will you do if its a boy"? "leave it at the hospital and try again". I laugh and it makes light of their stupidity. Then they usually follow up with a negative comment about 3 boys which I always answer with "I love the idea of 3 boys, there is something special about starting your own soccer/football/basketball team, and anyway at least then we dont have to buy anything new, since we already have boy coloured everything". That usually shuts them up. Its so annoying!

[black&gold]

I don't understand why the idea of 3 shocks some people? From everyone I've heard it's not much different then 2. Once you hit 2 kids you already have to have a routine and schedule and the 3rd just falls in line with everyone else. I've also heard someone say that no matter what number of kids you have you always feel busy or overwhelmed at that number and it just becomes the normal. I read some blog where a lady said at 2 kids she was way in over her head and couldn't deal, then somehow they got pregnant with a third, same thing happened and she now is on #5 considering a sixth. Apparently it's the same feeling regardless of how many you have that becomes your limit.. until you move on a realize you can handle more! So all this gives me hope it's not that big of a deal. Plus, almost all families I know that are done having children all have 3 so it can't be that bad!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I don't understand why the idea of 3 shocks some people? From everyone I've heard it's not much different then 2. Once you hit 2 kids you already have to have a routine and schedule and the 3rd just falls in line with everyone else. I've also heard someone say that no matter what number of kids you have you always feel busy or overwhelmed at that number and it just becomes the normal. I read some blog where a lady said at 2 kids she was way in over her head and couldn't deal, then somehow they got pregnant with a third, same thing happened and she now is on #5 considering a sixth. Apparently it's the same feeling regardless of how many you have that becomes your limit.. until you move on a realize you can handle more! So all this gives me hope it's not that big of a deal. Plus, almost all families I know that are done having children all have 3 so it can't be that bad!
I have been told by those who have 5+ kids, that the hard work is the first two...the rest follow what you have taught them! I tried to answer on your other thread before you edited it....lol, I am not sure on the swaying myself. I do think that for me, doing exactly opposite of what I did for my boys did change things and in so doing "swayed", but maybe to a 60/40 split of which I got lucky. I had 4 weeks of thinking 3 boys and all....and realize that it is out of my hands no matter what I did anyway!!!

I am excited to be a mom of three....DS1 has been longing for a sibling other than his brother. He has such a sweetness about him when talking of his baby.....I miss him and DS2 being so far away from them.

Meeks...I had started to use those lines with the comments that I was getting....especially the one about three boys being amazing...I know it would have been so true for me!! I always comment in a positive light about my patients who have 3 or more boys...they are gorgeous families and most of the time better behave that the PP!!! :) There is only one exception to that....lol, and I just hope that I don't work the day they show up!!!!

AFM....last night here, will be on the road home tomorrow, already have the next appts lined up. I am trying my best to just breathe, focus and love on the kids the way they are!

[BeadinMom]

The comments are driving me NUTS!!!
The second I posted I was pregnant on Facebook, the text messages, inbox messages & FB posts started.
"So....you were trying for a girl, huh?" - from a friend who has 3 girls, no boys. I wanted to say, so if you have another baby, does that mean you were going for the boy???
My main concern is HEALTHY & I've said it over & over....but the idiots still keep coming.
I think maybe I'm just extra sensitive today, but it is SO ANNOYING!!!

Sorry....y'all may resume your previous happy chats now....lol ;)
<3

[meeks32]

The comments are driving me NUTS!!!
The second I posted I was pregnant on Facebook, the text messages, inbox messages & FB posts started.
"So....you were trying for a girl, huh?" - from a friend who has 3 girls, no boys. I wanted to say, so if you have another baby, does that mean you were going for the boy???
My main concern is HEALTHY & I've said it over & over....but the idiots still keep coming.
I think maybe I'm just extra sensitive today, but it is SO ANNOYING!!!

Sorry....y'all may resume your previous happy chats now....lol ;)
<3

I'm with you beadin, sometimes it bothers me more than other times though. Some of the first few comments I got on fb were "oh you need a bigger car", "there must be nothing to do down there in the country, you keep having babies", "hope its a girl" and "what are you going to do if its another boy". I mean SERIOUSLY, was it that hard to write "congrats!" if you had a judgy thought, keep it to yourself!!!! I started getting snippy and replied "we already have a 7 seater, so I don't imagine with 3 kids we will need to upgrade" etc.

I think your friend with 3 girls was probably speaking from her own experience, she probably had a third in the hope she'd get a boy. Which as we all know there is nothing wrong with, as long as you dont put others down for doing the same, or imply they wouldn't love an opposite too.

I am still fuming over my MIL's comments when I told her I was pg, "oh... can we have a girl this time then?" and 5 mins later "so how many weeks until we find out if its a boy or a girl?". Those just topped off everything else i've heard. Clearly she is going to be disappointed if I end up having a boy!!!

[BeadinMom]

That drives me INSANE!!!
Somebody told me that today..."Can we have a girl this time?"
I said, "Sure, just put your order in at the drive-thru!! LOL!!"

And go AWAY!!!
I didn't have another baby as a gamble...I had another baby, because I wanted a BABY. As long as I have a healthy baby, I win.
Ugh. Sorry.

Thanks Meeks...you are always so sweet & you truly understand. Means a lot. XO

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - Glad that song gave you peace. Hope you hear it lots!! I have been listening for it, too! Praying for your grandma. Hope she does great at home. Keep us posted!

Meeks, Beadin, MsBlakely - I haven't even announced yet...I am soooo not looking forward to the comments. We just told DH's family, and they were all happy for us. My SIL said, you guys are crazy! But she wasn't being mean...I think she said that after I was expressing my nervousness about another. (They have 2 girls & are trying for another.) My friends here know (at least most do), but my friends back home don't. My parents and brother don't know, only my sister. I am waiting till we know gender to tell anyone back home...can't stand the thought of hearing all the gender comments. What your MIL said makes me cringe, Meeks! There are 9 grandkids on my side of the family, only 1 girl. So, I know my parents would want a girl, if they already knew. This way, there's no chance for them to want one or the other!

Ladybugs - Your attitude is great...just hold onto that 97%! Praying for your sweet little girl! Try to get some rest...I am sure you are exhausted!

AFM - Had my regular 12-week check today, and got to hear baby's heartbeat (163) for the first time. My last 2 appts., I only got to see it, so loved hearing it! Always so special! Nothing out of the ordinary with the appointment. All seems well!

[Emily]

I hate it when people make those stupid comments in front of my boys. I bet you want a girl implies that there is something wrong with my biys- and at 5 DS1 can totally sense the negativity. I try to shame them at that point but sometimes saying positive things about how fabulous brothers are just doesnt cut it and i have to unleash the inner bitch!

I am now officially frustrated with the admin staff at the doctors office. I went in oerson and they tried to fob me off again with "we will call you" until i pointed out that they had said that in Monday and i still didnt have an appointment. They are a tech down due to holidays so this is the hold up. I let t hem know that if I dhad not heard from them by the end of the day i would call them until i got my appointment. I figure the threat of an annoyingly persistent, unnervingly polite foreigner calling them every 2 hours will do the trick.

[meeks32]

lol Em, I agree, threatening politely to bother them until they do something is usually the best plan. Keep us posted!

Beadin I agree, although we swayed for this one, we chose to have 3 children, half expecting it would be 3 boys. We definitely didn't have another JUST to have a shot at a girl. I think thats why those comments annoy me. My MIL was also really wording up ds1 about a girl, when he innocently said he wanted a sister, because he already had a brother (fair point) she grabbed onto that and has been pushing that view around him every time she sees him. Its just setting him up for disappointment (or thats how I feel anyway) because we dont know yet, and WHAT IF ITS A BOY???

My reason for giving this my best sway was that I just wanted closure. I wanted to feel there wasn't much I could have done differently, and although I dropped some things along the way (the very long 18 months I swayed for), I truly feel I did everything physically and mentally possible for me. Thats not to say it was perfect, but I couldn't have handled doing any more. By the end LE had made me into a different person, and after 3 chemicals I just stuck my head in the sand and kept going without stressing about it (not at all like me). So I truly feel if this is a boy, there was never any chance of a girl, but I tried everything in my power. If its a girl, then yay, because that was a lot of bloody work!

[meeks32]

oh my gosh, I should NOT have looked up the chart of recommended weight gain per gestational week. I was 60kg and 1.73cm when I had my BFP, and am now 65kg and cant seem to stop gaining! Apparently I should only have gained 2kg by now!

Someone else please tell me you are the same?

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[meeks32]

as you can see, I was also looking up Perez Hilton at the time, and reading about kim k's pregnancy weight. LOL

[Tree]

I don't really understand the chart but can reassure you that I've put on loads of weight!!! I can't help it in pregnancy. My metabolism changes and turns everything I eat into fat!!

[Emily]

Yep guilty! I have put on loads but was not a healthy weight to start with so really needed to flesh out a bit. I am still less than my normal adult weight so am not going to worry too much. I think our bodies were on starvation mode during LE so are now holding into everything they can! That must be the reason - not the biscuits and crisps;)

[meeks32]

That's true, I am only now 1kg heavier than when I CONCEIVED ds1 (at 25) so I guess in terms of catching up to my 'normal' weight I only just got there. But I swear my tummy and boobs are giant already so I'm starting to worry! With ds1 and 2 I didn't gain too much and was all tummy, but I feel like whoa if I've gained this much already how much will it be at the end?!! I don't remember really thinking about it with them.., I kind of ate the same as always. I definitely have been having some LE backlash in terms of treats I wouldn't usually have, and my taste has changed thanks to LE so actually I'm not eating as many veggies and things as I used to. Trying to be healthy. Every day I say that and every night I think "tomorrow I'll make sure it happens" then of course it doesn't! Haha

[Soar]

I have already gained 20lbs but I weighed 115 when we conceived! Scary to think I have put on so much for being 18 weeks but since we are so busy this summer I haven't thought to much about it. With ds1i gained 45 and with ds2 I gained 40. I need to slow down and pick up a salad. :-) But those cookies sure are tasty! Nothing tastes so good as when you are pregnant! That's my excuse anyway!

[myrainbowgirl]

Yes, I've gained more this time, too, but like Soar I was only 115 (5'7") when I found out! So now I'm 122ish...have never gained during 1st tri before. But LE was so different than my regular diet, now that it's reverted back (not fully, as Meeks said, my tastes have changed somewhat), I am not surprised at all! Still not back to my conception weight with the 3 boys (which is also my normal adult weight)...so not feeling too bad about myself yet!

But, I am eating so much!! Yesterday, went to the grocery store just to pick up a birthday card for my DS2 (he's 4 today), and while in there, could just smell all the food from the deli. I decided I was going to get my lunch there, and started having a look around. Decided I probably shouldn't do any of the prepared salads or sandwiches (most early pg lit here says those are no-no's)...but was smelling the fried chicken and wanted some SO bad. Went over to the counter and they sold individual meals! (I always thought you had to buy a family-sized meal.) I was so happy! Ended up with a giant breast of fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, green beans, and a roll. And I almost ate all of it! It was AWESOME!! Haha. Like Soar just said, sometimes when you're pregnant, the food just tastes extra good!!

Ok, question on boobs...any of you not have major boob growth?? Mine have, but they're really not huge at all. They've never gotten huge during pregnancy before, but of course, I have all boys. I was still bf Ds3 when I got pg, and was soooo skinny that when my milk dried up, they were even SMALLER. Now, they're bigger, no question, but they just aren't that big. Starting to wonder if it's a boy sign. My regular size is a sad little A cup, so I have never, ever had big boobs. Maybe those of you with big boobs already had bigger ones?? Aaahh, trying not to overanalyze. Have looked this up before, and it seems to be different for everyone...sometimes women get huge with boys, too, sometimes not so much with girls (and of course vice versa). But, just wondering what your personal experiences were! I read somewhere that a baby boy's testosterone production can somewhat inhibit breast growth...theoretically, that would have to be after they begin to produce testosterone, which I read was about 11 weeks?? Thoughts, anyone?

[Tree]

I was a 32c pre babies. With my first they grew so huge and so fast I got stretch marks on them!! Sad about that as they were very nice. :-) I think after bf DS1 they went back to normal but seemed smaller from the stretching. Had that lovely empty sack look to them. They didn't grow as much with DS2 but perhaps because of the previous stretching I just didn't notice. This time they have grown a fair bit. Not sure of size as wearing old mat/nursing bras or nothing at all... Naughty!! And I'm having a girl. So I would say boob growth and sex of baby have no impact. Or certainly haven't for me.

[black&gold]

Yes, I've gained more this time, too, but like Soar I was only 115 (5'7") when I found out! So now I'm 122ish...have never gained during 1st tri before. But LE was so different than my regular diet, now that it's reverted back (not fully, as Meeks said, my tastes have changed somewhat), I am not surprised at all! Still not back to my conception weight with the 3 boys (which is also my normal adult weight)...so not feeling too bad about myself yet!

But, I am eating so much!! Yesterday, went to the grocery store just to pick up a birthday card for my DS2 (he's 4 today), and while in there, could just smell all the food from the deli. I decided I was going to get my lunch there, and started having a look around. Decided I probably shouldn't do any of the prepared salads or sandwiches (most early pg lit here says those are no-no's)...but was smelling the fried chicken and wanted some SO bad. Went over to the counter and they sold individual meals! (I always thought you had to buy a family-sized meal.) I was so happy! Ended up with a giant breast of fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, green beans, and a roll. And I almost ate all of it! It was AWESOME!! Haha. Like Soar just said, sometimes when you're pregnant, the food just tastes extra good!!

Ok, question on boobs...any of you not have major boob growth?? Mine have, but they're really not huge at all. They've never gotten huge during pregnancy before, but of course, I have all boys. I was still bf Ds3 when I got pg, and was soooo skinny that when my milk dried up, they were even SMALLER. Now, they're bigger, no question, but they just aren't that big. Starting to wonder if it's a boy sign. My regular size is a sad little A cup, so I have never, ever had big boobs. Maybe those of you with big boobs already had bigger ones?? Aaahh, trying not to overanalyze. Have looked this up before, and it seems to be different for everyone...sometimes women get huge with boys, too, sometimes not so much with girls (and of course vice versa). But, just wondering what your personal experiences were! I read somewhere that a baby boy's testosterone production can somewhat inhibit breast growth...theoretically, that would have to be after they begin to produce testosterone, which I read was about 11 weeks?? Thoughts, anyone?


Before DS1 I was max a B cup and my boobs didn't grow at all that pregnancy. After I stopped BF'ing him I literally have no boobs - pretty much flat as a board. When I got pregnant with DS2 my boobs grew right back to their pre-1st pregnancy B cup almost immediately. After I finished BF'ing him they went right back down to nothing. This pregnancy the exact same thing happened - I'm wearing my pre-1st baby bras but they haven't gotten any bigger than they normally have. I have a lot of friend with girls and I haven't heard any say their boobs were bigger for their girls - I think their boobs grew exact same for all their kids

[meeks32]

Yes, I've gained more this time, too, but like Soar I was only 115 (5'7") when I found out! So now I'm 122ish...have never gained during 1st tri before. But LE was so different than my regular diet, now that it's reverted back (not fully, as Meeks said, my tastes have changed somewhat), I am not surprised at all! Still not back to my conception weight with the 3 boys (which is also my normal adult weight)...so not feeling too bad about myself yet!

But, I am eating so much!! Yesterday, went to the grocery store just to pick up a birthday card for my DS2 (he's 4 today), and while in there, could just smell all the food from the deli. I decided I was going to get my lunch there, and started having a look around. Decided I probably shouldn't do any of the prepared salads or sandwiches (most early pg lit here says those are no-no's)...but was smelling the fried chicken and wanted some SO bad. Went over to the counter and they sold individual meals! (I always thought you had to buy a family-sized meal.) I was so happy! Ended up with a giant breast of fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, green beans, and a roll. And I almost ate all of it! It was AWESOME!! Haha. Like Soar just said, sometimes when you're pregnant, the food just tastes extra good!!

Ok, question on boobs...any of you not have major boob growth?? Mine have, but they're really not huge at all. They've never gotten huge during pregnancy before, but of course, I have all boys. I was still bf Ds3 when I got pg, and was soooo skinny that when my milk dried up, they were even SMALLER. Now, they're bigger, no question, but they just aren't that big. Starting to wonder if it's a boy sign. My regular size is a sad little A cup, so I have never, ever had big boobs. Maybe those of you with big boobs already had bigger ones?? Aaahh, trying not to overanalyze. Have looked this up before, and it seems to be different for everyone...sometimes women get huge with boys, too, sometimes not so much with girls (and of course vice versa). But, just wondering what your personal experiences were! I read somewhere that a baby boy's testosterone production can somewhat inhibit breast growth...theoretically, that would have to be after they begin to produce testosterone, which I read was about 11 weeks?? Thoughts, anyone?

Lol this sounds like me, i'm like WHY AM I GAINING SO MUCH SO FAST... OM, NOM, NOM hahaha

I got down to 58kg while swaying and o was delayed a week, it almost stopped entirely so I was forced to slowly gain 2kg in the 2ww before I started Clomid, but then I held fast at 60kg for 3 months on clomid and still had chemicals during that time so who knows!

Re the boobs question, I have an answer that debunks your worry/theory because with ds1 my boobs got HUGE right from the start like from a D cup to an EE cup!! They grew again when milk came in. With ds2 they didn't grow much but did jump in size a bit when milk came in, but seriously only maybe 1 cup size (I had ended up smaller after ds1 so went from a C to a D). This time my boobs are GIGANTIC already, and have been since about 7-8 weeks. I am already in my maternity bras from ds1 and they are still growing. I am scared!! so anyway it didnt matter about gender for me!

[BeadinMom]

I weigh as much now as I did when I delivered my boys...lol...sad, but true. I was very thin back then.
I've got a belly, but actually lost like 4 or 5 lbs since my BFP.
I craved things for the first 3, but this baby, I have no interest in eating. Some days I force myself to eat.

I'm sure part of it is the diarrhea thing, too...my stomach gets so upset...it's just not worth it. BUT..,the good news is my doctor said I can take Immodium & he gave me a script for Lomotil, if I REALLY need it. I was worried about our trip to Disney next month, but I feel sooooo much better now knowing I have a backup plan. I started the probiotics today...thank you ladies SO MUCH for the suggestion!!

[BeadinMom]

My boobs were HUMONGOUS for my boys...my DH said I could feed a 3rd world country...lol.
This time they haven't really changed.

I really don't think any of this means anything though as far as gender.

[myrainbowgirl]

Thanks for your responses, ladies. I think since all of us have had babies already, it's tough to judge. I've never been as thin as I was when I got my BFP this time, so really, the boobs were gonna be nonexistent once my milk was gone anyway. I attribute that plus the fact that my boobs don't need to prepare much for bf...this is #4, and I JUST stopped bf DS3. Yeah, you ladies are probably right!!

[Emily]

If you could tell gender by your boobs some wise guy would be making money out if it - mini scales to pop your ladies on or a density test LOL!

[Soar]

Emily-You know a man would love to invent the gender-boob-o-meter!!!! Bahahahha! That would be a top seller amongst all the dad to be's!!! I love it! LOL!

[BeadinMom]

Bahahaha!!! So true!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

If you could tell gender by your boobs some wise guy would be making money out if it - mini scales to pop your ladies on or a density test LOL!

LOL!! So true!

AFM - Emotionally feeling a lot better. That was a rough couple of days. I think I'm just having faith that there's still a chance...but honestly, I will be shocked if it's a girl! That would be an amazing surprise! (But I truly believe that God is fully able!)

[Tree]

This baby is sooo wriggly!! I love it! Although some of the jabs and movements are a little uncomfortable. Considering I'm only 22 weeks now full term should be interesting...
So I bought some little girl clothes. :-) Isn't it funny how buying clothes suddenly makes it feel real. Perhaps with all the madness of looking after the boys it's the first thing I've done that's allowed me the time to actually think about the fact we are having another baby. Anyway I've always said if I had a girl I wouldn't go pink crazy... I find a multitude of pinks put together a bit much and as much as I'm pretty girlie I always thought I'd go more blues and red. Well, perhaps it's the daughter deprecation I've had to this point because most of what I've got her is PINK!! Although in my defence of myself to myself I've also picked up a few things in the sale for when she is 1 and 2!! I know, crazy, but they were so beautiful and not in the sale crazy expensive. Of the older stuff, no pink at all. In conclusion I think I like pink for little babies. :-) Sorry for the rambling random message. Perhaps, if you like ill post some pics later!?
Hope everyone is having a lovely day/restful night! X

[Huds]

This baby is sooo wriggly!! I love it! Although some of the jabs and movements are a little uncomfortable. Considering I'm only 22 weeks now full term should be interesting...
So I bought some little girl clothes. :-) Isn't it funny how buying clothes suddenly makes it feel real. Perhaps with all the madness of looking after the boys it's the first thing I've done that's allowed me the time to actually think about the fact we are having another baby. Anyway I've always said if I had a girl I wouldn't go pink crazy... I find a multitude of pinks put together a bit much and as much as I'm pretty girlie I always thought I'd go more blues and red. Well, perhaps it's the daughter deprecation I've had to this point because most of what I've got her is PINK!! Although in my defence of myself to myself I've also picked up a few things in the sale for when she is 1 and 2!! I know, crazy, but they were so beautiful and not in the sale crazy expensive. Of the older stuff, no pink at all. In conclusion I think I like pink for little babies. :-) Sorry for the rambling random message. Perhaps, if you like ill post some pics later!?
Hope everyone is having a lovely day/restful night! X

That's lovely tree! Girl have adorable outfits. I have so much fun shopping when we have a party or wedding to go too! My DH is excited about about buy boyish clothing etc bless him he's been used to pinks, reds, yellow etc. Although we are waiting for our 20weeks scan which is on Monday, because im still in disbelieve. I need another look if that makes sense to make sure his pee pee hasn't disappeared lol

[Tree]

That's lovely tree! Girl have adorable outfits. I have so much fun shopping when we have a party or wedding to go too! My DH is excited about about buy boyish clothing etc bless him he's been used to pinks, reds, yellow etc. Although we are waiting for our 20weeks scan which is on Monday, because im still in disbelieve. I need another look if that makes sense to make sure his pee pee hasn't disappeared lol

Makes total sense!! I won't believe for absolute sure this is a girl until she is born. The thing is if a willy is there you can be pretty certain it's a boy but with 'girls' could the willy be hiding... I've been told on four different scans now its a girl... And still there is doubt. :-)

[Huds]

Makes total sense!! I won't believe for absolute sure this is a girl until she is born. The thing is if a willy is there you can be pretty certain it's a boy but with 'girls' could the willy be hiding... I've been told on four different scans now its a girl... And still there is doubt. :-)

Wow four scans... I can't imagine it be hiding on all four lol. I know exactly what you mean u won't believe it until baby is here. Im bursting to tell family members, but we haven't because we thought the suprise will be better. Plus we just want everything to go smoothly! I get that feeling that some family members think im having another girl. They observe what your eating etc lol! I don't think that has nothing to do with it. Don't you feel like this pregnancy is going on forever. Im so egar to have this baby.... And im only 20wks. I hope everything's is well at my 20wk scan.

[Emily]

That's lovely tree! Girl have adorable outfits. I have so much fun shopping when we have a party or wedding to go too! My DH is excited about about buy boyish clothing etc bless him he's been used to pinks, reds, yellow etc. Although we are waiting for our 20weeks scan which is on Monday, because im still in disbelieve. I need another look if that makes sense to make sure his pee pee hasn't disappeared lol

Huds I might be having my scan on the same day! They have to confirm as the doc likes to do it at 22 weeks. I cannot wait. i just need to know at this point.

[Soar]

Huds and Tree-so exciting to be buying clothes! That makes it all the more real and so much fun!!!!!!!! Share some pictures!

[myrainbowgirl]

Tree - Yes, please share! We can live vicariously through you. :)

Huds - I'm impressed you're keeping the surprise! Good for you!

Soar - When's your scan??

AFM - Haven't even told people I'm pregnant yet! We told DH's family last week, and some friends here know. But no one (other than my sister) knows back home! Feeling anxious about sharing, especially if it's another boy. All will be "forgiven" if it's a girl, but dreading sharing if it's not. Ugh. I think that's one of the worst parts of GD...other people's comments, judgments, etc.

[Huds]

Huds I might be having my scan on the same day! They have to confirm as the doc likes to do it at 22 weeks. I cannot wait. i just need to know at this point.

Oh really?! Let us know how u get on. Fingers crossed for u! I have my scan at 2pm, what time is yours?

[Huds]

Soar i haven't bought anything yet. Im too nervous lol. Ill wait for Monday's scan to be sure.

Myrainbowgirl im shocked at myself for not telling anyone yet lol i don't want to jinx it :-P

[Tree]

13165 Ok this pic doesn't show very well how totally cute the clothes are. I've ordered a few more bits so when they arrive I'll put into outfits and take another (better) pic.

[Tree]

Also apart from close friends and family I kept the pregnancy to myself until 20wk scan.

[Soar]

Huds and Rainbow-How do you hide the bump? I am 18 weeks and I totally have a baby bump. Not oh you've eaten to much bump but a wow your preggers bump! You guys must be tiny!

rainbow-my scan is Tuesday, August 27th at 10:30am! It's 11 days from now! I also have a wedding that we are leaving for on wednesday so i am wondering if i should wait until i get back that following monday September 2 to open the envelope. I am not really overly anxious to find out bc I am sure it will be DS3. I'm super nervous about my reaction and disappointment but also that everyone will be feeling disappointed as well. Ugh...my DH wants to find out Tuesday night over dinner with the two of us but I am nervous and don't want to be down for the wedding. Decisions decisions! I wish I wasn't so nervous but honestly I am. I haven't really given this scan much thought bc it's always been weeks away but now it's getting to the countdown and the pressure is setting in. We told family and friends including our parents we weren't finding out until the 2nd week of September so even if I wait till September 2 I will have 9 days to get myself together before announcing it to everyone. What would you do?

[Huds]

Oh noooo my belly is there. People know important pregnant but don't know what important having. I look at my app and it shows u what size baby is and belly. My belly doesn't look like the pictures, i look lot bigger esp after dinner. i guess its a lot of fat lol!

[Soar]

Huds-ok that makes me feel a little better! :-) I thought you were still not showing I was going to be super jealous! I am so large. This 3rd baby has really made their presence known!

Ok so just as I was writing to you guys about being worried about this baby being DS3 I was putting DS1 down for a nap and he said "mom are you going to sleep up here on the couch again for nap time?" I said "yes" he said "ok can you not do that because your snore is really loud and woke me up yesterday. It sounds like honk shoe honk shoe! Can you go sleep downstairs instead please that way I won't hear you!" I just started dying laughing! I am still laughing as I write this! Ahhh I love my boys! They give it straight and most of the time it's hilarious! LOL!

[meeks32]

Em, so glad you got an appt! Well done! It's Monday right? That's probably Tuesday my time I think. So glad!

Ps ladies my belly is giant at 14 weeks I couldn't hide it now, no idea how women hide it til later!!! Plus I usually look grey from sickness so it's obvious right away. This time I didn't get sick but showed super early, like 7-8 weeks!! Probably because LE left me with 0 body fat to hide it, and probably because I seemed to stack weight on straight away when I stopped the diet.

[meeks32]

I just read at 14 weeks your uterus is supposed to be JUST above your pubic bone. Mine is at my belly button and ENDS before my pubic bone, I can feel the whole thing. Is that normal?

[BeadinMom]

Meeks...
Mine is just under my boobs & I can't see where it ends,..LOL.
I guess 3 HUGE boys delivered via c-section helped me develop this belly sooner...LOL.

[meeks32]

Meeks...
Mine is just under my boobs & I can't see where it ends,..LOL.
I guess 3 HUGE boys delivered via c-section helped me develop this belly sooner...LOL.

Lol yes my boys were huge too, and I don't know if caesarians make a difference but I have had two! Wish I could manage natural birth, my friends that have them recover so fast!

[BeadinMom]

Okay...
I want to call & get my Maternit21 gender results...but I read some posts on Babycenter that had incorrect results for gender.
I'm so afraid that if they tell me this is a girl, I'll believe it & get my hopes up & be crushed if it's wrong.
Ugh...I hate this. I don't know what to do!!!

[BeadinMom]

Meeks, I'm glad I'm not alone with my C-sections at least :)

[meeks32]

Okay...
I want to call & get my Maternit21 gender results...but I read some posts on Babycenter that had incorrect results for gender.
I'm so afraid that if they tell me this is a girl, I'll believe it & get my hopes up & be crushed if it's wrong.
Ugh...I hate this. I don't know what to do!!!

Beadin I would get the results if it was me. It's going to be far more accurate than a nub and you can still confirm at 20 week ultrasound. In fact I think you know even the 20 week scan isn't perfect so the more chances to confirm the better!

[Emily]

Oh really?! Let us know how u get on. Fingers crossed for u! I have my scan at 2pm, what time is yours?

5.30 here so that is 11.30 am your time. I really hope they don't cancel it as the receptionist wouldn't give me one at 21 weeks so i rang back till i spoke to her colleague and just asked for a scan that week! DEvious huh?

[Emily]

Soar if it is a girl I will shout it from the rooftops but if it is a boy I will wait till I am ready to tell people - i might be so excited after seeing him on the scan that i am ready to tell people straight away but I wont be telling anyone about the scan just in case I need time to process.

[Soar]

Beadin-I think it is a great test to go by. I think mrsP also did that test and it said girl and she just had her! I think like Meeks said its great to have and then the 20 weeks scan can also back it up as well!

Finding out gender is always nerve racking for sure! My gender scan is in 11 days!!! Yikes!

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - I would find out gender ASAP if it was me! I am too impatient!

Emily - So exciting!!! Looking forward to hearing!

BeadinMom - Again, I would find out gender, too! I highly doubt you would hear the wrong results...very, very unlikely!!

AFM - Speaking of MaterniT21, I got my results. It's a boy. The good news is, his chromosomes are healthy, so obviously, I am happy about that. Not that I was shocked to hear boy, I wasn't. I am still devastated, though. I really, truly believed that God had promised me a daughter. Those of you who believe, may understand...those of you who don't, well, I completely understand you thinking, "Why in the world would you think something so crazy??" Because it does seem crazy. Especially now. But, there is some history there in what I believe was God's promise to me...started before I got pg with DS3. I had a miscarriage after 8 months of trying...shortly after, I saw a very vivid rainbow. Immediately felt in my heart that God was communicating with me that I wasn't going to have another miscarriage. I can't explain it...I just knew. Saw another very vivid rainbow a few days later. Again, immediately felt that God was saying I was going to get pg very soon. Saw another one a few days after that...felt that God was saying I would have a girl. The first two came true...got pg the next cycle, didn't have a miscarriage. The third one, obviously did not. Fast forward to when we started considering TTC#4. Started seeing lots of rainbows. Began to think...ok, I think maybe now we're going to have a daughter. If you've read my sway, you'll see all the other rainbow connections (saw one on conception day!), including the name we had picked for a girl...it seemed to really be God speaking to me. So, truth be told, I didn't even consider the fact that we could have another boy, until AFTER we were pg! I even bought nice pink girly bedding before I knew we were pg. So, yeah, that's why I'm devastated. I just don't understand how I could have made all that up in my head.

I had told DH about all the rainbow stuff from the very beginning, so he was well aware of it. Prayed with me that this would be a girl, etc., etc. We had a good, long talk tonight about it all. He, amazingly, fully believes that I am not crazy. That we will have a daughter. Said he doesn't know how it will happen or when, but that it will happen. He basically said money is no object, because who is he to stand in the way of God fulfilling His promise to me? OMG, I just cannot believe that he is so open and willing. I had mentioned to him before that I would not do this without a guarantee...and I won't. Too much heartache. So that leaves either adoption or HT. I am open to both. Of course, as I mentioned before, I don't know how in the world I'm going to handle 4 boys, so having a 5th child is beyond my realm of comprehension! But anyway, I married an amazing man, is all I can say. He even said that he thinks we should keep the pink bedding! I am trying to wrap my head around it all.

Ok. Enough talking about myself. At least now I know. And I am so happy that he's healthy. I am crossing my fingers for all of you who don't know yet that you are blessed with your beautiful little girls (or boys if that's what you want). Can't wait to hear all the upcoming news!

[BeadinMom]

Rainbow...
I believe...<3

[myrainbowgirl]

Rainbow...
I believe...<3

Thank you so much...trying not to cry now. Thanks for your support! I really, really hope you get your DD!

[meeks32]

Rainbow, I'm so sorry you didn't get the girl of your dreams, that's not fair. I'm glad at least you could find out early with the materni21 test so by the time you get to the 20w scan you can simply enjoy seeing baby rather than be hunting for gender clues and walking out elated or devastated. I really wish you got your girl but have no doubt this boy is going to be very special and you won't be able to imagine life without him soon. Xxx hugs

[Tree]

Rainbow, I'm so sorry for the heartache you feel now. But am happy you have such a wonderful and supportive husband! Perhaps this is all just part of the bigger picture. Yes 5 children sounds like a lot but I can only imagine that should you have a 5th you'll be forever grateful that you got your 'extra' boy!! None of this is particularly helpful right now I'm sure, and I really am sorry for the loss you currently feel. But I don't think your journey is over.... Enjoy your perfect healthy little boy, and let him fill your heart with the happiness it needs right now!

[Emily]

Congratulations on a healthy baby boy. I know you must be feeling sad right now but it sounds like you know how lucky you are. DH sounds amazing and the other are right you will adore your little man.

Have you seen the opposites thread? The ladies over there have found that it halps them to chat, get excited about shopping etc but please stay on her too xx

[Huds]

5.30 here so that is 11.30 am your time. I really hope they don't cancel it as the receptionist wouldn't give me one at 21 weeks so i rang back till i spoke to her colleague and just asked for a scan that week! DEvious huh?

Eek can't wait!!!!! Will be thinkin of u on Monday :-)

[Soar]

Rainbow-I totally believe! God has a plan and your daughter will come to you no doubt! God also gave you an amazing DH! You found out so quickly with your results! I didn't realize you would know so quickly! Congratulations on a precious little boy!!!!! So glad you know he is healthy!

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - Yeah, I didn't know I would find out this week, either. I had been told 10-14 days, so I was thinking absolute earliest on Monday...crazy knowing this soon!

Thank you to all you wonderful ladies for your encouragement and kind words. I am still somewhat sad today, but feeling much better. I know in time it will improve. And yes, DH is amazing! I still am not sure that I want DD so bad to have #5, but knowing it is an option is such a comfort. I just need to wait and see how 4 goes, I guess! But then again, who am I to stand in the way of God's promise to me, ya know?? It all remains to be seen!

Looking forward to hearing all the results from upcoming scans...so many in the next couple of weeks. Yay!!

[Tree]

Today has been totally rubbish, stressful without achieving very much and I am completely knackered. I find pregnancy utterly exhausting!

I was however cheered up when I got home and discovered the few things I ordered the other day had arrived... So I made some outfits. DH was laughing at me, I'm such a loser!

Anyway here are the pics...
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They didn't photograph that well but if you zoom in you can see some of the detail.

Rainbow I'm glad you're feeling better today, of course it will take a little while to adjust to the new dream.

Girls with scans approaching Good Luck! What order and when are they...!?

[onthepond]

Rainbow, you are amazing. I think you and your DH are amazing, and I too believe that you will have your girl. Congratulations to you on a healthy baby boy, you are blessed. And I too, believe :) Thinking of you!

[onthepond]

Good luck to all of you with scans so quickly approaching! HOW EXCITING! Cannot wait to hear everyone's news.

We have our NT scan on Tuesday and to be honest I feel like I will get the tech that doesn't even want to take a guess, but to be even more honest, I just want to hear great things at our NT scan. I am still so terrified after our MMC (does this ever end for those that have had MC's before???), I just want to see and hear that everything is just fine with baby(although I am still anxious to know the news)...

[onthepond]

Tree, SO ADORABLE all of the little outfits! I love that you are having so much fun with this :)

[meeks32]

Tree if it was me I would have done the same. My dh is familiar with my strange organisational quirks and often shakes his head!

My scan is Tuesday week (27th) and I'll be 15 weeks. It's just a scan at my ob so if he's out delivering a baby I'm not sure the midwife will hazard a guess, but I will ask for a side profile shot and a potty shot anyway.

[Emily]

Tree-baby clothes are crying out to be organised! So cute.

My scan is on monday afternoon so late morning uk time. If they let me have it as the doc prefers 22 weeks.

On the pond good luck with your scan. So lovely to finally see your baby.

[myrainbowgirl]

Tree - So adorable! Enjoy all your shopping!

Meeks - Only 10 days! I hope you get a peek! My first 2 DS's were obviously boys at 16 weeks, so I would think at 15, you'd get a good idea. My brother & sis-in-law found out my niece was a girl at 15 weeks!

Onthpond - Thank you so much for your encouragement! I am kind of wowed by DH, too. Wasn't expecting him to say that! I'm definitely a blessed woman. :)

[BeadinMom]

Yep, at 16 weeks mine were all obvious!!

[Soar]

Rainbow-been thinking about you today!

Emily-Monday is only in 2 sleeps! You are so close!

AFM-today was a day! Went wedding clothes shopping with DH for the wedding in NY. I think I tried on 30 dresses. Nothing felt pretty but I settled for a black form fitting dress with a black satin ribbon below the bust. It was $100 way more than I wanted to spend but all the other dresses where even more $$$ and soooo ugly! I bought it at a boutique called Pickles and Ice Cream. Ugh I think I will start a maternity line of clothes and make dresses that still make you feel like a woman as opposed to a child or a large blob of blah! Who's with me? I think we should call it "NO large blob of blah allowed maternity boutique". Bahahahah! But seriously!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Rainbow-been thinking about you today!

Emily-Monday is only in 2 sleeps! You are so close!

AFM-today was a day! Went wedding clothes shopping with DH for the wedding in NY. I think I tried on 30 dresses. Nothing felt pretty but I settled for a black form fitting dress with a black satin ribbon below the bust. It was $100 way more than I wanted to spend but all the other dresses where even more $$$ and soooo ugly! I bought it at a boutique called Pickles and Ice Cream. Ugh I think I will start a maternity line of clothes and make dresses that still make you feel like a woman as opposed to a child or a large blob of blah! Who's with me? I think we should call it "NO large blob of blah allowed maternity boutique". Bahahahah! But seriously!

I will shop at your store! I have been feeling so unflattered by most of my clothes....there is a pair of mat jeans that I feel hot in coupled with a very nice Thyme mat. black shirt. Otherwise, I have too bulky of shirts, to snug of ones and boobs that are trying to jump out of everything!! All I ask for is a few lovely apple green shirts that are like that black one...that would be great!!
Glad to hear that you found something to wear Soar!! You will look so pretty!

I have a few things from my trip for my little girl, kept it to a dull roar :) Let me know if you do or don't want to see the items. It was therapy in a time and space when all my head was thinking about was the 3% vs 97%. That being said...I still am having a hard time wrapping myself around all the terms of what could be in 16 or so weeks in terms of health.

[Soar]

Ladybugs-yes it's show and tell Time! Lets see what you purchased! I will work on the apple green tops in my first line! :-)

[I Love Ladybugs]

1319213193 Unlike Tree, I have not organized anything...I had been getting all my boy gear together for the last 4 weeks. My plan of the week is to sort through what I need to get on sale and what could wait.

[Soar]

Ladybugs-awwww so sweet! Love the ladybug outfit!!!! You have great taste!

[Emily]

Rainbow-been thinking about you today!

Emily-Monday is only in 2 sleeps! You are so close!

AFM-today was a day! Went wedding clothes shopping with DH for the wedding in NY. I think I tried on 30 dresses. Nothing felt pretty but I settled for a black form fitting dress with a black satin ribbon below the bust. It was $100 way more than I wanted to spend but all the other dresses where even more $$$ and soooo ugly! I bought it at a boutique called Pickles and Ice Cream. Ugh I think I will start a maternity line of clothes and make dresses that still make you feel like a woman as opposed to a child or a large blob of blah! Who's with me? I think we should call it "NO large blob of blah allowed maternity boutique". Bahahahah! But seriously!

Have you tried isabella Oliver dresses on line? her wrap dresses are pricey but gorgeous. They have 70% off in america now too. Isabellaoliver.com or co.uk for ladies in England.

My scan has been confirmed for Monday so either way i will be doing some shopping on Tuesday!

[Tree]

Ladybugs your outfits are sooo cute!! By the way in so not organised. Apart from those few outfits. This pregnancy is just whizzing by. Will prob use the boys stuff for when she is really little as its neutral. Perhaps I'll get a few more bits to make them girlie. All the boys little clothes are packed away in boxes, so goodness knows when we will get to them!

Very exciting for the upcoming scans! How are you all feeling about it? I got so nervous as the scan date approached.

I agree about Maternity clothes, for the most part it's so frumpy! And the nice stuff is crazy expensive. In the UK (not sure about other countries) we have ASOS which is good and reasonably priced. Then Topshop which has the odd nice thing. H&M are quite good for trousers I think.

I always hope to look nice and glamorous in pregnancy, then end up in my husbands clothes. :-)

Girls who have three kids, what's was the transition like between 2 and 3? I'm nervous! When I think about things like getting them all in the car.... How!?

[meeks32]

Agree on the maternity clothes, there are plenty of nice ones but they are all so expensive.

I have brought from ASOS before and liked it though, cheap and flattering. They ship free worldwide (I think, it's free to Oz anyway).

Love h&m but we don't have it here and it doesn't seem to ship internationally! Grrr

[meeks32]

Ps I am loving everyone's clothes. I haven't brought anything yet. Feel a bit strange about that. I just don't want to buy anything unless I have an idea of gender. I spent two pregnancies trying to buy neutral so I could reuse things, but this being my last, I just want to buy a colour!!!