Due in December/January/February 2013/14

[lollylegs]

Been away feeling unwell and sorry for myself, and it is lovely to be reading so many beautiful updates.
I will try doing better when this second trimester healthy glow kicks in.
But thought I'd just say hi anyway!

[black&gold]

I'd love to know as well about the transition from 2-3. Most people i've spoken to make it seem like not really a big deal - the baby just falls into the schedule that you already have going. I'm hoping it's that simple for us!

[BeadinMom]

From 2 to 3 was nothing...honestly. I hope from 3 to 4 is just as easy!! :)

Lolly, congrats on the sweet baby girl!!

[Soar]

Good to know adding #3 doesn't change to much! I like that! My concern is also about getting in the car with everyone safe while running errands. I can't remember who voiced that concern but I'm with you on that worry! Any moms of 3 or more wanna give their how to's on that one?

How is everyone feeling m/s wise? I'm still getting sick. Woke up at 5:45am and ran to the bathroom! Anyone else in this same boat still? Ugh it's really starting to bring Me down! I want to feel good! I'm still eating two eggs for breakfast. And at night I drink a glass of orange juice but nothing seems to help the super early morning sickness! What if I am the lady who is sick the entire pregnancy? I will be 19 weeks Tuesday.

[Tree]

Soar sound positive for a girl, my ms dragged on way longer than with the boys and even now (22 weeks) I still get waves.

It was me who asked about getting 3 kids in the car, and yes I agree the more info about logistics with three would be awesome!!

I also wonder how DS1 will react to another sibling, we were so lucky with how amazingly he has embraced DS2. I think DS2 will still be young enough to not be effected.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Soar I'm not as far along as you (14 weeks) and still sick. Was horrible today and yesterday. I never really had any sickness in my other pregnancies but this time it has been relentless and the worst bit is I retch and retch but usually only bring up some bile as my stomach is empty. Hoping it eases off for us soon :-)

Tree I usually walk with my three boys. I have two in the nipper 360 which is amazing double buggy and my eldest who is 6 walks alongside us. When my baby was littler (less than 1 and a half), I carried him in the ergo and just pushed a single buggy. When we use the car, we have three car seats in the back and it's actually not too hard logistically to get them all in now they are a wee bit older. My two older boys climb in themselves.

Initially being honest I found going 2 to 3 quote challenging because my children were all four and under, now we are in a routine it is nice. I work full time but still feel I get lots of time with them. My baby didn't get in a routine until he was a year as he was nursing all the time until then. I loved the ergo because I could nurse in it and I also wore him all the time round the house as he was a grumpy wee thing who liked constant contact.

[myrainbowgirl]

Adjusting from 2-3 was pretty easy for me. 1-2 was much harder! My oldest was old enough to strap himself into his carseat by the time DS3 came along, so I really only had to worry about the baby and DS2...that was super helpful! (DS1 was 4, almost 5 when DS3 was born.) I am hoping DS2 (who just turned 4) will be able to do his own carseat when DS4 gets here...I'll still only have to worry about the two littlest! But I fully intend to avoid running errands with all of them. It'll just have to wait till they're in school or on weekends when DH is home!

[black&gold]

Soar - I'm still sick. I've been on morning sickness medication since 5 weeks and I've tried to go off in the last couple week and every time I try I start to feel like i'm coming down with the flu and get really nauseous. I've had it bad with all 3 of my pregnancies but DS2 was way worse than DS1 and this one seems to be very similar to DS2 but it started a lot earlier. I'm almost 24 weeks

And even with only 2 right now I rarely run errands with them together. I usually go on days when DS1 is in preschool for the morning or do it in the evenings once they are in bed. I like grocery shopping in peace so I'm happy to just avoid it at all costs with the kids. DS1 will be in school when #3 comes so that will help! My babies are all late year babies (Oct & Dec.. this one Dec. also) so they start school early.. which actually is quite nice when it comes to new additions arriving!

[meeks32]

Thanks to the women who have 3 or more and the tips, I love these!

I found going from 1 to 2 was challenging, but not as bad as I imagined (I have a great/ridiculous imagination, lol). But I had a double pram and they were only 2 years and 3 weeks apart so ds1 was still in the pram for another 5-6 months when I had ds2. Not all the time, but when it was important he would go in there. That helped immensely when we went out.

This time the gap will be longer, and ds2 isnt using the pram almost ever... yet also isnt safe to hold my hand and walk without slipping out and running away. Hoping like mad this changes by February 4th! I dont know how to walk a 2 and 4 year old around plus a pram, but like the others said, I plan to rarely need to attempt it, without either dh around or ds1 at kinder. Thankfully ds1 starts 3 x 5hr days at kinder in January so I should have enough days where its just ds2 and baby to wrangle. Getting them in the car no longer scares me, we have been babysitting a friend's toddler so I worked out the seating configuration and brought a seatbelt extender for the middle seat due to the tight squeeze, this helps me not have to reach between the seats and fiddle too much to click them in. I think ds1 will be able to click himself in most times, as he has started to do that now. Only thing I worry about is him poking baby (ds1 is our difficult one). I am worried about feeds, since I struggled with breastfeeding both times and am really keen to try it again regardless of those experiences, but it takes SO long to do each feed for me, and i'm wondering how I will entertain the boys while I feed so many times a day. I mean with ds1 I used things like tv time, activities or snack time to feed ds2 but there was only one of him. This time ds1 and ds2 fight a lot and I am constantly having to tell ds1 to stop being naughty, no idea how that will go.

Did I tell you I have a date for the birth?? Feb 4th!!! It is so seriously weird knowing when, but there has to be some perk to caesarians because everything else is CRAP. Wish I could safely choose to naturally birth but my doctors keep reminding me its impossible for me. Sigh.

So anyway i'm trying to get excited about the one perk, knowing the date! Of course I didnt get to CHOOSE the date, contrary to popular belief, they just choose a date for you and you have no say. Although I was happy my ob asked if there was any date in that week that I would definitely not want to give birth, which was nice, I didnt mind but if I had a relative die or a negative association with a date, I imagine that would be a comfort.

[Tree]

How strange Meeks, I feel like my range for giving birth is about a month! Both boys were very overdue but I hear things can be different with opposite sex. I do however still expect to go over.

Girls thanks for the tips and comfort. Ds3 will still be so young when this baby arrives and that had concerned me before, but actually now, realising that means I can have them both in a double buggy I feel quite comforted. And I guess shopping the can both then go in the trolly and DS1 can walk.

So I'm wide awake, despite being so very tired!! I've got terrible acid reflux! I had it with DS2 and it was horrible, somehow thought I was going to get away with it this time. I've taken two tums and they just haven't worked. I now can't take anymore and am having to sit up right. As if the constant wake ups to wee weren't enough... I would love to be asleep right now! :-( Pregnancy sure does present a few challenges huh!

[Emily]

Going from 0 to 1 was the worst LOL! Now we expect no time to ourselves and avoid shopping trips, dinner in smart restaurants etc. Child locks in the car are amazing - at the moment DS1 is Captain Lock and it is his job to climb in then lock the door when we get a taxi. If you know the door is locked it doesn't matter how long it takes to strap them in you will not lose one:)

Am feeling stupidly hormonal and weepy today as the scan gets nearer. Am trying to prepare myself to hear blue but have just had the worst ever weekend with DS1 and really do not want another boy. I know it is just a knee jerk reaction to DS1 's strops but the timing couldn't be worse. I wish i was patient enough to be team green.

So sorry you ladies are feeling sick still. That must be so tough. I am gaining weight like a hippo so could do with a bit of MS LOL!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I have a sneaking suspicion that going from 2-3 might be the most challenging over here! I was so ready for DS1....and then in going from 1-2, I found the toughest part of that was my little booby leech did not allow for as much chasing of the big one..so maybe it was harder than I remember!!!

I am prepared in so many ways for this new baby already, and both boys are thrilled to have a new baby on the way. My DS2 is going to be the one who could be the tough one as he is my mini me and glued to me when I am home (except when he is working on his puzzles) :)

Emily....you must have about 4 more hours to go? I hope you hear pink...the day I found out blue, I was excited and stressed....then crashed mentally after that. The wild thing is by the time I heard pink, I was not expecting it!!! I also had to wait a week to confirm that...among all the other things.

[Soar]

Emily-so excited for you! Can't wait to hear! I totally understand being nervous! I will be you on the 27th!

Update when u can!

[BeadinMom]

Okay...
I laughed so hard at this, I almost peed my pants...LOL...
Thought you ladies might be able to use a laugh, too....

Newborn Hat 0 3 Months Photography Photo Prop Baby Hat Handmade Reborn Girl | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newborn-Hat-0-3-months-Photography-Photo-Prop-Baby-Hat-Handmade-Reborn-GIRL-/321002349131?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd3b224b)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Okay...
I laughed so hard at this, I almost peed my pants...LOL...
Thought you ladies might be able to use a laugh, too....

Newborn Hat 0 3 Months Photography Photo Prop Baby Hat Handmade Reborn Girl | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Newborn-Hat-0-3-months-Photography-Photo-Prop-Baby-Hat-Handmade-Reborn-GIRL-/321002349131?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4abd3b224b)

Oh Beadin!!! I just NEED that for this little girl! I want over the top crap....I just laughed that someone would think about selling that!!!! My style is so not that....I wonder if you could finding anything worse than that :)

[Tree]

Said it on the other post but Good Luck Emily!!! Really hope you're growing your little girl in there.

That hat!! Oh wow!

[Huds]

Goodluck Emily... Hope you hear pink xx

[Soar]

Beadin-bahaha that hat is crazy! Good thing that's not a real baby! LOL!

Glad to hear some are still getting sick. Although I feel bad that I feel better others are sick.

Thanks for all the 2-3 advice! Grocery store is definitely something I will be doing after DH gets home. Otherwise I would have children climbing the cereal isle! The joys of toddlerhood!

[Emily]

Ladies it is a girl!

i am absolutely over the moon. Will post pics when I can. The tech seemed sure but I will have to watch the DVD a million times to be sure. I saw nothing that looked even vaguely like male or female parts but i am sure she wouldn't just make it up for fun.

[meeks32]

Ladies it is a girl!

i am absolutely over the moon. Will post pics when I can. The tech seemed sure but I will have to watch the DVD a million times to be sure. I saw nothing that looked even vaguely like male or female parts but i am sure she wouldn't just make it up for fun.

I replied on the other thread but will say it again, CONGRATULATIONS! So happy for you, was so expecting it to be a girl, but still on a knife edge waiting for you to confirm!!!

[Soar]

Emily-What great news!!!! Congratulations!!!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily,
That is wonderful news...and I too don't have a pic proof of my girl other, but they are all sure and have no reason to just guess on gender. Congrats!!!!

[BeadinMom]

Awww Emily, I am THRILLED for you!!!!
Congratulations!!! Enjoy every minute of buying pink!!! <3

[Tree]

I too congratulated on other thread, but CONGRATULATIONS!!!

[Huds]

Ladies it is a girl!

i am absolutely over the moon. Will post pics when I can. The tech seemed sure but I will have to watch the DVD a million times to be sure. I saw nothing that looked even vaguely like male or female parts but i am sure she wouldn't just make it up for fun.


Huge congratulations to u and your family. That's excellent news. Just come out of my scan yep saw his Willy again lol... Tech said everything was fine :-)

[BeadinMom]

Yay Huds!!! Enjoy buying blue!!! :)

[black&gold]

Congrats to both of you!! Lucky ducks!

[Emily]

Huge congratulations to u and your family. That's excellent news. Just come out of my scan yep saw his Willy again lol... Tech said everything was fine :-)

Yeay for seeing or not seeing willies ;) What are they giving as your due date? Mine has shifted to jan 3rd which is great as DS2's birthday is my old due date.

[Am3a]

Rainbow - your story... is heartbreakingly beautiful.

Maybe it's not the rainbows you were supposed to see... perhaps the pot of gold instead?

Congratulations on your beautiful boy. X

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - Replied on the other thread. But CONGRATS again!! So exciting!

Am3 - Thank you so much! When is your scan?

Huds - Woohoo!!

Afm - AFM - Plan to tell my parents this week (they don't even know I'm pg), and will also be telling gender with the friends who knew I would find out this week. Dreading it. Told my SIL last night at DS2's birthday party, and started crying. Ugh...it just came out. Once again, had been a tough, tough day with the boys. DH had to work, so to get everyone out of the house, we went to church and then out to lunch. OMG. It was awful. Even the baby was tough. Wishing so bad I could fast forward the next 2 weeks to when DS1 is in school...just soooooo over the summer. Had another cry with DH last night...he is just so understanding and supportive. Don't know what I'd do without him!! I am blessed!

Speaking of DH's...mommies who are having another boy, do you think DH's sperm has anything to do with your failed sways? I know Atomic swears up and down that all men have 50/50 sperm, but I'm really starting to wonder! Anybody out there have DH get an SA and see that it wasn't 50/50? I don't blame DH at all...it's certainly not his fault, but I'm just wondering if it played a role. If we were to try HT, I guess I would find out. Just curious about your thoughts on it all.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Emily congrats hun that is so very exciting! Emily is on her way x

[Waiting4Daisy]

Rainbow I keep telling my dh he doesn't make girlies xx

[black&gold]

Emily - Replied on the other thread. But CONGRATS again!! So exciting!

Am3 - Thank you so much! When is your scan?

Huds - Woohoo!!

Afm - AFM - Plan to tell my parents this week (they don't even know I'm pg), and will also be telling gender with the friends who knew I would find out this week. Dreading it. Told my SIL last night at DS2's birthday party, and started crying. Ugh...it just came out. Once again, had been a tough, tough day with the boys. DH had to work, so to get everyone out of the house, we went to church and then out to lunch. OMG. It was awful. Even the baby was tough. Wishing so bad I could fast forward the next 2 weeks to when DS1 is in school...just soooooo over the summer. Had another cry with DH last night...he is just so understanding and supportive. Don't know what I'd do without him!! I am blessed!

Speaking of DH's...mommies who are having another boy, do you think DH's sperm has anything to do with your failed sways? I know Atomic swears up and down that all men have 50/50 sperm, but I'm really starting to wonder! Anybody out there have DH get an SA and see that it wasn't 50/50? I don't blame DH at all...it's certainly not his fault, but I'm just wondering if it played a role. If we were to try HT, I guess I would find out. Just curious about your thoughts on it all.

I definitely think there is something too it for sure. I think it's probably rare, but there has to be some people where that is the case. I know Atomic has done way more research than most but sometimes I feel like that's the only explanation! My 3 pregnancies were all very different in terms of my body before conceived. DS1 makes sense he was a boy, DS2 does not as I was skinniest I'd ever been, doing crazy cardio, eating super low empty calories etc etc. This baby was more similar to DS2 minus the working out and we basically gave up on swaying the month I conceived because I had lost O, wasn't getting pregnant, short LP and on my way to a fertility specialist - so I feel like it could go either way (we aren't finding out gender). But I just know it'll be a boy so for me I feel like it has to be something about DH - maybe the medication he's on for Colitis.. who knows! But also, my SIL is married to a guy who she just knew would only makes boys. There hasn't been a girl in their family born for generations and each person had at least 2+ kids. My SIL totally sways strong pink (unintentionally) and they have 2 boys. Her BIL also had a boy so how can that make any sense.. ya know?

[Huds]

Yeay for seeing or not seeing willies ;) What are they giving as your due date? Mine has shifted to jan 3rd which is great as DS2's birthday is my old due date.

Haha woohoo! My due date is the 7th Jan. I can't wait....wish it was Dec :-P we are not so far part :-) was this your last scan?

[BeadinMom]

When did you ladies start feeling movement? I'm 16 weeks today...sorta, kinda, maybe feeling flutters, but no real movements yet!!

[black&gold]

When did you ladies start feeling movement? I'm 16 weeks today...sorta, kinda, maybe feeling flutters, but no real movements yet!!

Didn't feel anything until about 19 weeks - I sometimes wondered about maybe flutters but nothing. I literally told my OB I wasn't feeling movement and went home and it started about an hour later. I've felt it regularly since (I'm almost 24 weeks). I do have an anterior placenta, but that didn't stop DS2 as I had one with him as well and I felt him at 11 weeks on. I also felt DS1 from 11 weeks but he was my first so I didn't really believe it.

[BeadinMom]

Thanks MsB!! XO

Now I'm glad I have my Doppler, so I can at least listen to the babe's heartbeat & know everything is okay...since I'm 16 weeks exactly today, might be a little while.

[meeks32]

I definitely think there is something too it for sure. I think it's probably rare, but there has to be some people where that is the case. I know Atomic has done way more research than most but sometimes I feel like that's the only explanation! My 3 pregnancies were all very different in terms of my body before conceived. DS1 makes sense he was a boy, DS2 does not as I was skinniest I'd ever been, doing crazy cardio, eating super low empty calories etc etc. This baby was more similar to DS2 minus the working out and we basically gave up on swaying the month I conceived because I had lost O, wasn't getting pregnant, short LP and on my way to a fertility specialist - so I feel like it could go either way (we aren't finding out gender). But I just know it'll be a boy so for me I feel like it has to be something about DH - maybe the medication he's on for Colitis.. who knows! But also, my SIL is married to a guy who she just knew would only makes boys. There hasn't been a girl in their family born for generations and each person had at least 2+ kids. My SIL totally sways strong pink (unintentionally) and they have 2 boys. Her BIL also had a boy so how can that make any sense.. ya know?

Agree, I trust Atomic has done plenty of research but I also saw some HT people finding out that yes, they had 50/50 sperm but none would take. Either some died, bonded but had abnormalities or just didnt bond with the egg, or the egg wouldnt implant. So I wonder if some DH's simply have super healthy boy sperm, and their girl sperm are like girly Homer Simpsons banging into the walls no quality to go anywhere with. Just something I wonder. Since my DH's family is just like you describe too MSBLAKELY. In some ways I cant blame my MIL for being so obviously pro-girl, since nobody has had one in generations in their family.

[meeks32]

I started feeling movements at 11-12 weeks, so super early but I felt them at 14 weeks with ds2 and 16 with ds1. Must have thin muscles now, hahaha.

HOWEVER since moving a massively heavy trampoline when it blew over our fence in strong winds the other night with DH, I haven't felt anything. I am starting to worry. If I go to the doctor and ask he will probably think i'm mad since i'm only 14 weeks now anyway and usually most women don't feel consistent movements until far later. Wish I had a doppler. Its going to be a long week until my next scan. 4 days since I felt movement.

[myrainbowgirl]

Interesting, Meeks. Yes, could just be that the girls aren't particularly healthy. DH is such a man's man, and I just know his testosterone is through the roof...would certainly be interesting to know if he plays a role at all. His sister is adopted, so his dad had only a boy, his granddad had 3 boys, and one of his uncles has 1 girl, 3 boys. Most of the cousins on his side of the family have boys, although I know some have girls, too. Anyway, just curious to find out.

As far as movement at 14 weeks goes, I understand your concern, but you probably have nothing to worry about. If something went wrong with baby after moving the trampoline, you'd probably having bleeding, cramps, or both! Please try not to stress over it! You're gonna get to see that sweet little baby soon!

I have not really had movement. Thought that maybe I felt some flutters around the 10th week, late...but since my scan, found out I have an anterior placenta, so pretty sure what I was feeling was just gas or muscle twitches, haha! Had anterior placenta with DS2, and didn't feel strong movements till 18 weeks with him. It was a bummer!

[onthepond]

EMILY, congratulations to you! What a blessing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meeks, I am sure that everything is just fine with baby, although I am also sure that I would worry too. Sigh. Thinking of you.

Ladies, I am almost 13 weeks and no movement yet. My dr told me I have a posterior placenta...not really sure what that even means, but hopefully I will start to feel baby moving around soon. That will ease my mind a ton I think. We have our NT Scan tomorrow, so hopefully I will report back with either a tech guess or a nub shot for me to craze over. HA. More than anything, just asking for prayers that tomorrow goes well and that baby is healthy (though if you wanted to throw in a little blue dust I would welcome it :) so if you say prayers, please add one in for us! We want this baby so bad...

[BeadinMom]

Onthepond...
Sending you EVERY OUNCE of my blue dust!!! XO

Can't wait to see nub shots!!! :)

[black&gold]

Meeks - I wouldn't worry about the trampoline at all. I think if anything lifting is a concern because it was pull away your placenta, I doubt it would do anything to just the baby without any spotting or cramping! Plus, when were waiting to feel movement, it somehow never happens!!...

I also agree with the DH sperm stuff. I've also seen a lot of people not be able to get a pink bean to stick! I know of some people too who have had a couple miscarriages and then the baby that sticks is the same gender they already have - makes you wonder if that can be the cause of some people fertility problems. Ugh, which makes me think that I couldn't get a BFP for a good 4 months with lots of solid trying when I was doing the most hardcore sway ever, then the month I drop most things to just get pregnant I get a BFP - will probably be a boy!

[meeks32]

Meeks - I wouldn't worry about the trampoline at all. I think if anything lifting is a concern because it was pull away your placenta, I doubt it would do anything to just the baby without any spotting or cramping! Plus, when were waiting to feel movement, it somehow never happens!!...

I also agree with the DH sperm stuff. I've also seen a lot of people not be able to get a pink bean to stick! I know of some people too who have had a couple miscarriages and then the baby that sticks is the same gender they already have - makes you wonder if that can be the cause of some people fertility problems. Ugh, which makes me think that I couldn't get a BFP for a good 4 months with lots of solid trying when I was doing the most hardcore sway ever, then the month I drop most things to just get pregnant I get a BFP - will probably be a boy!

^^^ this, is exactly what I meant. I had 4 chemicals, 3 in a row leading up to bfp and I swear if this is a boy, either dh has crap girl sperm, or I can't carry girls. *dustshands* there, I am absolved of guilt either way. Lol

But truthfully I think sometimes (not always, or even usually) this must be the case.

And thanks for the reassurance for the tramp. My logical brain knows this, my emotional ttc for 18 months brain does not!!!

[Soar]

MrsBlakely that makes a lot of sense. I think there could be something to DH's girl swimmers. Interesting thought on that! I hadn't thought about it that way!

[Emily]

I felt movements very really with this baby but have no muscles at all now!

Meeks i am sure the baby is fine and already moving again. My understanding of the no lifting in pregnancy idea is that relaxin makes us more likely to pull a muscle. You would have to be really shifting some weights to do any damage to the baby or placenta.

However, when pg (not necessarily this time but whenever) I would always call the doc if you are worried. My logic is that they would rather you call for nothing than not call if there were something wrong. Also, do you care what they think of you? I don't! They are not your friends they are professionals paid to provide a service.

[meeks32]

I felt movements very really with this baby but have no muscles at all now!

Meeks i am sure the baby is fine and already moving again. My understanding of the no lifting in pregnancy idea is that relaxin makes us more likely to pull a muscle. You would have to be really shifting some weights to do any damage to the baby or placenta.

However, when pg (not necessarily this time but whenever) I would always call the doc if you are worried. My logic is that they would rather you call for nothing than not call if there were something wrong. Also, do you care what they think of you? I don't! They are not your friends they are professionals paid to provide a service.

Love your replies! Still no movement but I was thinking anyway maybe the uterus has just moved up a bit, and now there's more space so I can't feel it. My boobs are still growing massively, and I'm thirsty as hell so I imagine everything is ok. Plus what could they do anyway? And I have no bleeding or cramps. My doc (local gp) is crap and has nothing not even a Doppler, and my ob is 2hrs drive away so I will leave it for now unless anything changes.

I'm sure I'm overreacting. The trampoline was about 300kgs though (idiot!!) Haha.

[myrainbowgirl]

EMILY, congratulations to you! What a blessing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meeks, I am sure that everything is just fine with baby, although I am also sure that I would worry too. Sigh. Thinking of you.

Ladies, I am almost 13 weeks and no movement yet. My dr told me I have a posterior placenta...not really sure what that even means, but hopefully I will start to feel baby moving around soon. That will ease my mind a ton I think. We have our NT Scan tomorrow, so hopefully I will report back with either a tech guess or a nub shot for me to craze over. HA. More than anything, just asking for prayers that tomorrow goes well and that baby is healthy (though if you wanted to throw in a little blue dust I would welcome it :) so if you say prayers, please add one in for us! We want this baby so bad...

Good luck tomorrow! Looking forward to seeing your pics. :)

[meeks32]

Update, I had a coffee and felt a kick/squirm. At least I think so. Of course NOW I doubt myself. Haha

Also, brought my first thing for baby... Unisex dummies. Haha I am really not in the spirit of baby shopping yet. I need to know gender!

[Emily]

Love your replies! Still no movement but I was thinking anyway maybe the uterus has just moved up a bit, and now there's more space so I can't feel it. My boobs are still growing massively, and I'm thirsty as hell so I imagine everything is ok. Plus what could they do anyway? And I have no bleeding or cramps. My doc (local gp) is crap and has nothing not even a Doppler, and my ob is 2hrs drive away so I will leave it for now unless anything changes.

I'm sure I'm overreacting. The trampoline was about 300kgs though (idiot!!) Haha.

300kg eh? The things we do! I helped set up a volunteer-run library in Morocco including shifting all the books when I was pg with DS1.

Your Doc sounds totally useless! Can you phone your mid-wife if you are worried? My Mother's clinic has started to do phone in consultations once a day so that people can make an informed decision about whether to come in or not.

Glad to read in your later post that you felt some movement. It could totally be your uterus stretching and moving or just a lazy day for the baby. I cannot remember when they want you to track movement but it is a lot further on when things are much more cramped in there.

I have not bought anything for the baby yet. We got soooo much stuff for DS1 that we did not buy much for DS2 either. DH said we could probably use our old clothes for the first year and I just laughed in his face! I am not a particularly girly girl and won't be buying masses of pink but I am not going to dress her exclusively in boys hand-me-downs! Who does he think he is kidding? Time for him to do some overtime at work LOL!

[black&gold]

LOL, Meeks - I helped my dh move a massive sectional couch from our upstairs to our downstairs when I was pregnant with DS1. That was a bad idea.. the thing was so heavy. We still joke about how ridiculous it was that I did that! Glad to hear you felt a little squirm - I'm positive that was exactly what it was!

[BeadinMom]

Meeks, I'm shocked they don't have a Doppler.
If you're interested, I bought one on ebay for like $60...best investment ever...totally giving me peace of mind.

I wouldn't worry about the trampoline either...I agree with the other ladies. I moved a dresser from upstairs to down...by myself when pregnant with one of the boys...I seriously don't even know how I did it...lol.

[Soar]

I felt Movement at 14 weeks with 3.0. That's the earliest by far. I felt it at 19 weeks with DS1 and around 18 weeks with DS2. Although I think I am feeling it early bc things are definitely much thinner in the muscle area now. Lol!

So quick question? When you all find out the gender how do you intend to announce it? For DS2 we planned a gender party to announce it. We found out earlier in the day and then everyone came over to have a cupcake and see whether the inside was filled with blue or pink. It was a great way to tell everyone all at once and everyone was really excited since it was a party. Now this time if it is a boy again I am thinking of doing something like that again so I get it over with all at once and everyone will be smiling and happy and then go home. Really I am kind of at a loss at what to do this time. If its a boy I would rather deal with the comments all at once as opposed to telling everyone one at a time and hearing their comments over and over. I feel like that will hurt more than all at once. Does this make sense? How are you all going to tell your friends and family the gender?

[Tree]

We had decided either way that we would wait until the birth to tell people. It's exciting I think when it's a surprise, even if you secretly know.

[meeks32]

Meeks, I'm shocked they don't have a Doppler.
If you're interested, I bought one on ebay for like $60...best investment ever...totally giving me peace of mind.

I wouldn't worry about the trampoline either...I agree with the other ladies. I moved a dresser from upstairs to down...by myself when pregnant with one of the boys...I seriously don't even know how I did it...lol.

bahahaha nesting does funny things doesn't it? I did this too, a number of times, moving furniture around bedrooms or upstairs because I felt the strong and urgent need to do it right then and there, not wait for DH to get home. Even early in the pregnancy!!

ps whoever was asking how early people got Braxton Hicks, I had one last night at 14 weeks after getting up to ds1. Not worried, I had them early with the boys too, its just odd feeling your bump go hard. But good too, as I felt it was very high as I suspected, so that explains the movement changing.

I totally brought a doppler last night on ebay! haha! $49. Bargain! Should get it within 2 weeks. Hoping they are a quick posting one, since its coming from Bejing! Some of those are super super quick, and others are ridiculously slow. They had good feedback so fx.

[meeks32]

I felt Movement at 14 weeks with 3.0. That's the earliest by far. I felt it at 19 weeks with DS1 and around 18 weeks with DS2. Although I think I am feeling it early bc things are definitely much thinner in the muscle area now. Lol!

So quick question? When you all find out the gender how do you intend to announce it? For DS2 we planned a gender party to announce it. We found out earlier in the day and then everyone came over to have a cupcake and see whether the inside was filled with blue or pink. It was a great way to tell everyone all at once and everyone was really excited since it was a party. Now this time if it is a boy again I am thinking of doing something like that again so I get it over with all at once and everyone will be smiling and happy and then go home. Really I am kind of at a loss at what to do this time. If its a boy I would rather deal with the comments all at once as opposed to telling everyone one at a time and hearing their comments over and over. I feel like that will hurt more than all at once. Does this make sense? How are you all going to tell your friends and family the gender?

Well, I'm crap at keeping a secret, so although I would love to do what Tree is doing, I wont be able to! Thinking we might keep it to ourselves for a week or two, if I can, to process. Then we usually just very unceremoniously call the grandparents, then announce it on fb. I never got into the gender party, but now you mention it, maybe with this being our last, we should? Although if its a girl people will then think we did a big party for the girl and not the boys and then think we favour her or something... I dont know! I will wing it I think!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Soar we found out with ds 3 but didn't tell and announced when he was born. This time we are team green so will post a pic of baby with name and gender.

[onthepond]

Hi ladies, back from our NT scan which went very well! The tech said everything looked perfect to her and we should get the blood results back within the week - thank God! Of course she told me that she wouldn't even venture a guess at gender because it is far too early to do so, and she also didn't send me home with any good nub shots. I am thinking it's a girl, though. I don't know why, just a feeling, heartbeat was 167 today, too again. I am trying to just be happy and excited...I do feel so blessed to be pregnant though in my heart of hearts I really wanted this baby to be a boy. Sigh.

[myrainbowgirl]

We had decided either way that we would wait until the birth to tell people. It's exciting I think when it's a surprise, even if you secretly know.

Ooh, that is so tempting on one hand, because everyone's happy when the baby gets there! On the other hand, I just can't stomach the thought of hearing the gender comments the whole rest of the pregnancy, knowing it's a boy. As far as my family goes, we already told DH's, and they seem happy. His sister (his only sibling) has 2 girls, so there's at least some pink in the family. However, on my side, this will be the 10th grandchild, 9th boy. And the only girl came after 6 boys. So, that is why I chose to wait till I knew gender before telling my parents. They live across the country from me, so that made it easy. Although, we are still pretty close, and talk every week, so keeping it from them has been tough. Actually planning to tell them tonight. Will be interesting to hear their reaction! My sister and brother each have 3 and are done, so I think the fact that we even went for a fourth will be a big shock! But anyway...we'll see.

As far as local friends who already know I'm pg, not sure how I'm going to tell gender. They all know I was supposed to find out this week, and I've already told one. I think I'm going to delay sharing till they ask. That way I can get at least some of my "disappointment" (if you want to call it that...major understatement, obviously) out of my system.

Friends from back home and FB friends, I don't know. Not sure if I will announce on FB till he's born. We'll see. My close friends back home will see me in December at Christmas, so will probably call them all individually (or message them or something) soon. Maybe I'll get more positive reactions than I'm imagining, and maybe it'll help me feel better. But knowing me, I'll at least get one or two insensitive remarks that will only make me feel worse. We'll see.

[myrainbowgirl]

Hi ladies, back from our NT scan which went very well! The tech said everything looked perfect to her and we should get the blood results back within the week - thank God! Of course she told me that she wouldn't even venture a guess at gender because it is far too early to do so, and she also didn't send me home with any good nub shots. I am thinking it's a girl, though. I don't know why, just a feeling, heartbeat was 167 today, too again. I am trying to just be happy and excited...I do feel so blessed to be pregnant though in my heart of hearts I really wanted this baby to be a boy. Sigh.

May I ask why you are thinking girl? Nothing sticking up from side profile? Just wondering. You never know! It's still early! When is your next scan?

[Soar]

Yea those all make sense. Thanks for your input. Just wanted to get your ideas. I have already looked up what I could call this gender party. If we do it I think we will go with the theme "3 of a kind or daughter divine". That's me rhyming! Haha!!! They have a new way to reveal since our last party. You put pink or blue balloons in a box and then open the top lid and the balloons come flying out revealing the gender. Anyway, my DH says it would be really weird if we didn't do a party since we did it for the others. He doesn't want anyone to sense we would be anything other than totally happy with boy or girl. He says if we show less excitement we are more prone to hearing mean comments. Hmmmm decisions decisions!

[meeks32]

Yea those all make sense. Thanks for your input. Just wanted to get your ideas. I have already looked up what I could call this gender party. If we do it I think we will go with the theme "3 of a kind or daughter divine". That's me rhyming! Haha!!! They have a new way to reveal since our last party. You put pink or blue balloons in a box and then open the top lid and the balloons come flying out revealing the gender. Anyway, my DH says it would be really weird if we didn't do a party since we did it for the others. He doesn't want anyone to sense we would be anything other than totally happy with boy or girl. He says if we show less excitement we are more prone to hearing mean comments. Hmmmm decisions decisions!

That's how I feel if I DO do a party. Since I didn't with the others. But I really feel like I want to since its our last!! Most people here combine it with their baby shower...

[onthepond]

Ooh Rainbow, nothing official - I am just a crazy :) Ramzi, heartbeat and my ultrasound tech all think girl, so basically everything I have is pointing to girl and being that I got like 20 pictures today and none show a nub, I am thinking it must be a boy? Who knows. I am just trying to move on from it honestly and just celebrate the fact that there's a healthy baby in there!

SOAR, love that idea with the balloons if you do that. I have a friend that did something similar and the pictures were adorable!

[BeadinMom]

Onthepond...
You win no matter what...
Sisters are AMAZING & then there's the chance you have your sweet son cooking in there!!!

I can't wait till we find out for sure!!! :)

[meeks32]

Onthepond the heartbeat thing is completely wrong, if it were true my ds1 would be a girl. I believe the heartbeat shows more about personality than gender. Ds1 was always super super high heartbeat, almost to the limit of normal, often 170bpm! Never less than 150, and he is supercharged in real life too. Ds2 was very slow heartbeat, 120-130bpm they often had to scan twice to make sure they were accurate and were worried it was so slow. He is super chilled and relaxed in real life. I think it has more to do with that. That's what our midwife said she had noticed from her experience anyway and I can't argue!

[Soar]

Wow that's a really cool observation your midwife made about the HB.

Now I was actually excited about the HB of this baby it's always in the 160's which is way higher than DS1 or 2! But I know there really isn't a connect from HB to gender but in my case I wish it was!

I think we will do the balloon gender party. At least that is my thought for tonight.

By this time next week I will have had the gender scan! Ahhhh I'm so scared I only have a couple more days to dream of a girl.

Totally off subject----I just got my drivers license notification in the mail that I have to go in for a new picture since its been 15 years since my last picture. I have to do this before my birthday which is Oct 12th! Now I am going to have my DL picture of being fat and preggo for the next 15 years!!!! Oh man.......!

[BeadinMom]

I've looked into the heartbeat thing, too....I think it's total bunk. I think it depends on lots of things...including if the mom just had sugar or caffeine.
So I totally wouldn't go by that...and I'm not just saying that b/c I posted a video of my Doppler on Facebook today & got lots of boy guesses...LOL!! ;)

[BeadinMom]

LOL Soar!!!

[Emily]

I think a gender reveal sounds like fun! It is soooo unBritish that I cannot see myself doing one though:( oh and i only know about 4 people here!

I think it is a great way to show the world how excited you are about the baby whatever its gender and for siblings to get involved. I think it would also keep nasty comments at bay - who is going to say are you going ti try for a boy/girl next when you are standing next to a box of coloured balloons beaming your face off?

Meeks you could make the party as much about your boys as the baby and then it is more a celebratn of your family. Let's face it most if your planning will go into making sure they are happy and entertained anyway! I have seen a cute game where you put your children's names on the wall on big bits of paper and then give one photo of them as babies etc to each guest and they have to put them under the right name. If there aren't enough photos you can write funny comments or things they have done too. At the end it means your boys have a whole stack of things just about them on the wall and loads of ahhhhh how cute etc comments.

I agree that 12 weeks is very early - my tech was very up on nub theory and even she said it could easily change. The heartbeat thing couldn't possibly be true otherwise gender scans wouldn't exist we would just need a doppler. Meeks good thinking getting one! Now you officially do not need your doctor.

[BeadinMom]

Ramzis has had lots of opposites, too!!
Just wanted to throw that out there!!

[Soar]

I'm gonna need ramzi's to be wrong on this one! Well it's kind of inconclusive baby3 is right in the middle at 7wks2days.

Emily-I think you are right! Who can say something tacky with a smile and balloons in hand? Even if it is a girl, I am sure I would get tacky comments. Oh glad you decided to try for a third. Now will you guys stop having babies? You finally broke the curse huh? All tacky people can shove it! I think we will do the party! You have inspired me! I also like your picture idea at the party! That's a fun way to include the boys! I may steal that little touch as well!

[onthepond]

You ladies are amazing. Thank you so much, this is just what I needed to read tonight. I think this is just so emotional for me because the baby we lost was a boy...I truly just need to celebrate the perfect, healthy baby growing inside and Beadin you are SO right... Sisters are the best!

[onthepond]

SOAR, do the party! Do it, do it!!!

[Soar]

Oh we are doing the party! We are gonna do this party so over the top and its going to give me something to focus on besides gender! If its a boy I am going to show GD where it can put it! Hahaha!!!! Seriously tho....it's party time!!!!!!! Bahahahahaha!

[BeadinMom]

LOL Soar...I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

By the way...Pinterest has some cute gender reveal party stuff!!!

[meeks32]

Lol Soar and your drivers licence, sorry I know its not funny, but its pretty funny. Go get that pic asap before you get any bigger!!!!

That happened to me, in a different way for my University student ID card. They didn't tell us when they would be doing them, so I showed up one day hungover with no makeup and in tracksuit pants after an exam period finished, and they said EVERYONE HAS TO GET THEIR ID PHOTO TODAY. It only lasted 4 years but omg I could have died. The number of times I had to show it, and be embarrassed!

Em I love that idea for the party. Remind me of that after the scan next week. Jeez baby better not cross its legs, I dont know how I will last another 4-5 weeks to the anatomy scan!!!

[meeks32]

300kg eh? The things we do! I helped set up a volunteer-run library in Morocco including shifting all the books when I was pg with DS1.

Your Doc sounds totally useless! Can you phone your mid-wife if you are worried? My Mother's clinic has started to do phone in consultations once a day so that people can make an informed decision about whether to come in or not.

Glad to read in your later post that you felt some movement. It could totally be your uterus stretching and moving or just a lazy day for the baby. I cannot remember when they want you to track movement but it is a lot further on when things are much more cramped in there.

I have not bought anything for the baby yet. We got soooo much stuff for DS1 that we did not buy much for DS2 either. DH said we could probably use our old clothes for the first year and I just laughed in his face! I am not a particularly girly girl and won't be buying masses of pink but I am not going to dress her exclusively in boys hand-me-downs! Who does he think he is kidding? Time for him to do some overtime at work LOL!

Em I forgot to say, this made me laugh too. There would be no way in hell I would dress my girl in boy clothes after ALL this swaying to get her! Have you told anyone IRL? Will you? What did you decide with hospitals and birth?

[Emily]

Em I forgot to say, this made me laugh too. There would be no way in hell I would dress my girl in boy clothes after ALL this swaying to get her! Have you told anyone IRL? Will you? What did you decide with hospitals and birth?

Exactly! Just think of all the money we have saved over the last few months with me not eating anything except rice cakes and never going out for dinner!

We have only told immediate family - most people IRL don't know I am pg as we left Spain shortly after the 12 week scan and after the chemical i did not want to tell anyone too soon. DH is a bit weird about putting things on FB so I won't put anything on there till she is born. My mum was especially happy as this is her first Granddaughter and my sister 'gave' me the girl's name she was never able to use which is soo sweet of her. Unfortunately i don't like the name but am calling using my sister's name as the middle name.

i would love to have a gender party now! It would be a bit weird though as we do not know enough people and have only just met those.

[meeks32]

Exactly! Just think of all the money we have saved over the last few months with me not eating anything except rice cakes and never going out for dinner!

We have only told immediate family - most people IRL don't know I am pg as we left Spain shortly after the 12 week scan and after the chemical i did not want to tell anyone too soon. DH is a bit weird about putting things on FB so I won't put anything on there till she is born. My mum was especially happy as this is her first Granddaughter and my sister 'gave' me the girl's name she was never able to use which is soo sweet of her. Unfortunately i don't like the name but am calling using my sister's name as the middle name.

i would love to have a gender party now! It would be a bit weird though as we do not know enough people and have only just met those.

amen on the diet and money saving. Plus its not like we have to buy anything else for number 3. I plan to buy some new clothes if its a boy too. My leftovers from ds1 and 2 are pretty feral now!

I am thinking of maybe doing one of the gender announcement pictures I found on pinterest for more a gender announcement... I still feel weird having a party when we haven't before. Although some women do it here its not particularly Australian, but i've enjoyed seeing my USA friends do it.

[myrainbowgirl]

Onthepond - Glad you're feeling better. :) Time will tell, but you are absolutely right...healthy baby is wonderful!

Soar - Fun on the gender reveal party! I think you're right...negative comments will sound stupid at a fun party! And yes, everyone knowing at once will hopefully get any dumb comments out of the way at once. :)

Meeks - Will definitely be buying new clothes here. Totally opposite season from really all 3 of them. I live in Colorado (mountainous state), so Feb. is still smack dab in the middle of winter. I had to buy a few cold weather clothes for DS3, who was born May 5th. It can snow in May here! But I have very little appropriate-weather clothes for a winter baby. So yay, I still get to shop! Plus, all my summer baby clothes are in seriously bad shape, going through 3 boys!! I was actually excited at the thought of giving most of the old stuff away! Will probably keep all their going-home outfits, just for sentimental value, but all the other stained, ragged stuff is getting thrown out!

Told my parents tonight. They were amazingly supportive and wonderful. I thought I might be able to get through without crying, but um, noooo...that didn't happen. I told them the whole story, rainbows and all. They were 100% on board with my DH's comments! And when I told them how easily this baby was conceived (in spite of my pink sway AND in spite of my age AND in spite of my history), they were both amazed, and said this little guy must be special and so meant to be! Said they're looking forward to watching it all unfold. :) I gotta say, right now I'm feeling tons better. I think deep down I was worried about their reaction, to a fourth, to another boy. Obviously, I shouldn't have been. So grateful for them. :)

[Soar]

Rainbow-that's awesome news! So glad they were so supportive! It sounds like your parents are really great! Having support is really important especially from your parents! February is def prime snow season for you guys! My DH always goes in February bc your snow is his favorite at that time! Sweet outfits for a snow baby are super cute and make them look even more cuddly!

[meeks32]

Onthepond - Glad you're feeling better. :) Time will tell, but you are absolutely right...healthy baby is wonderful!

Soar - Fun on the gender reveal party! I think you're right...negative comments will sound stupid at a fun party! And yes, everyone knowing at once will hopefully get any dumb comments out of the way at once. :)

Meeks - Will definitely be buying new clothes here. Totally opposite season from really all 3 of them. I live in Colorado (mountainous state), so Feb. is still smack dab in the middle of winter. I had to buy a few cold weather clothes for DS3, who was born May 5th. It can snow in May here! But I have very little appropriate-weather clothes for a winter baby. So yay, I still get to shop! Plus, all my summer baby clothes are in seriously bad shape, going through 3 boys!! I was actually excited at the thought of giving most of the old stuff away! Will probably keep all their going-home outfits, just for sentimental value, but all the other stained, ragged stuff is getting thrown out!

Told my parents tonight. They were amazingly supportive and wonderful. I thought I might be able to get through without crying, but um, noooo...that didn't happen. I told them the whole story, rainbows and all. They were 100% on board with my DH's comments! And when I told them how easily this baby was conceived (in spite of my pink sway AND in spite of my age AND in spite of my history), they were both amazed, and said this little guy must be special and so meant to be! Said they're looking forward to watching it all unfold. :) I gotta say, right now I'm feeling tons better. I think deep down I was worried about their reaction, to a fourth, to another boy. Obviously, I shouldn't have been. So grateful for them. :)

So glad it went so amazingly with your parents. Sometimes it feels like if a few key people react well, you can deal with anything anyone else dishes out.

Oh yes the season. That will be different for me too. My boys were May and June which for us is smack in the middle of winter, and freezing. This one will be Feb, late summer for us, so I have no idea even what one buys for a newborn summer and our summers can vary radically in temperature so my plan is basically cotton full length zip onesies, and a few t-shirt with no legs style ones.

Of course a few impractical and cute outfits too! Hahaha.

I have to hunt down my boxes from the cupboard and check what I have left in which size, some I tossed before packing up because they were vomit stained (two reflux babies) and some I remember wondering why I was putting away, because they weren't very nice looking anymore.

[black&gold]

Are any of you ladies worried about 3rd child syndrome? I've had a few people make the comment around me "I'd never want just 3, third child syndrome. It's either 2 or 4" Before all these comments it never even crossed my mind. I was the baby of 3 kids and definitely felt like I was the least liked, bad child etc. etc. Even to this day I feel like my mom "protects" my older sister more because she's more sensitive than I am - and she was the middle child. Now I'm all worried we made a stupid mistake having more than 2 kids and wondering if this is a real concern. My DS2 is an angel and the cutest most sweetest child ever. I can't fathom ignoring him and not giving him attention.

Plus, what's with the idea that somehow 4 is better in that regard then 3. I get there is no "middle" kid, but naturally the more children you have the less attention you have for all of them individually. Doesn't that rule pretty much apply once you've passed 2 that your kids could somehow feel left out or what not?

Sorry for the random rant, it just totally gets me the wrong way when people make stupid comments like that to your face when you just said "we are so done at 3!" I was interested to hear your ladies thoughts as I know some already have 3 and going onto #4 so I'd be interested to hear what you think. And I know a lot of us are on #3

[BeadinMom]

Honestly, MsB...I've never heard that. My DS3 & I are VERY close & my mom is close to her DD3.
I think love multiplies...never divides :)

[Tree]

I've heard similar comments too... It worried me. I don't want DS2 to feel like he was just a number, or like he isn't enough (I don't think you can apply this theory to two as you're giving them both a sibling, compensating for what you're 'taking away'). In the end I concluded it comes down ultimately to how you parent. As well as of course, the child's character. I think all dynamics can be complicated as well as the parent child relationship. Equally all dynamics and parent child relationships can be wonderful. Of the families I know with three children all bar one have no issues in this regard. And the only one I can think of that does is a boy, girl, boy family where the girl has serious hang ups - spoilt being the only girl (parents doing) and some mental problems too (bad luck).
I think awareness and sensitivity to each of the children's needs and potential vulnerabilities are key. Don't over compensate or anything but just demonstrate continuous equality, love and one on one time with all of them. And I guess simple stuff like not comparing, examples: 'why can't you be good like your big brother' and 'stop being a baby like your little sister'. I think it's so easy for parents to indirectly (accidentally) turn kids against eachother and pigeon hole their personalities, ultimately making them feel more or less liked than their siblings.
These are just my thoughts. It's hard to know until you're there I suppose and I'm sure the ladies with three will be able to shed more light.

[BeadinMom]

I have 3...with #4 currently cooking....

Honestly, each one of my boys are unique & beautiful in their own ways & I COULD NOT for a minute, imagine my life without each one of them.
In fact, I pray each night that this baby has Cameron's eyes & gentleness, Brennan's amazing sense of humor & beautiful heart & Quinn's smarts & passion for the things he loves.

How do you even chose who you would subtract from your life? If God put them there, they're meant to be there.

I HATE inconsiderate, rude people & their crass comments.

[black&gold]

Thanks ladies. I completely agree with both of you.

Tree - Everything you said is what I've also been thinking and I totally think it comes down to how you parent. It's so silly the people that just assume 3 automatically means theres middle child syndrome. Of course being pregnant though and OVERLY sensitive this time for some reason I am taking ever comment to heart and worrying like crazy about other peoples thoughts.

I think it's mostly the people that believe the best family is 2 kids (ideally Boy then girl) - which lucky for everyone I know is what they just randomly got dealt. 2 kids is nice, but you only give your child one option for a sibling in life. What happens if they don't get along or aren't close (much like both DH & I with ours) you don't have any other options! And when parents are no longer alive, I feel like it's nice for your kids to have family. I think there's valid reasons for choosing any number of children and it's stupid for people to even comment about what is the most ideal, because they ALL have their negatives!

Ugh, there's my rant for the day LOL!

[BeadinMom]

So I thought I'd share with you guys how we're sharing the baby's gender with our families...

I bought the same exact Strasburg gown - one in pink & one in blue...
My mom will have one gown & my mom-in-law will have the other...
My DH will come out & kiss the one who is opposite of what we have, then kiss the mom holding the correct gown & take it.

Yes, I know it's cheesy...LOL...but I think it'll be sweet to include both of our moms. :)

[BeadinMom]

Ms B...
You are absolutely right...no matter what, we would've had at least 3 kids. I adore my sisters & I wanted my boys to experience that. Seeing them together is really sweet. I'm not sure opposite gender siblings can understand each other in the same way.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Beadin I love your gender reveal idea

[BeadinMom]

Thanks Daisy's mom!! :)

[Waiting4Daisy]

Annoys me when people go on about third child etc because each of my children is a little person and individual, not just a third child and they all have their own identities and I love them so much. I've always wanted a big family. The best thing you can give a kid is a sibling

[Waiting4Daisy]

😌 I hope daisy is coming soon - we have been waiting for a long time already

[myrainbowgirl]

Beadin - Adorable idea!!

Waiting4Daisy - When is your anatomy scan?

As far as the 3 kid thing, most people I grew up with had 3. Most had no issues! I was the middle of 3, and I think even my parents would say I turned out ok! :) My 3 are each individuals, and each one brings so much joy in their own way. My littlest is really too little at this point to have any issues, but obviously, he will be getting a little brother, so he won't be the baby anymore. It will be fun for each of my boys to have a buddy. I HAVE heard that you should have kids in pairs, since someone's "always left out." I disagree with that, though, my boys love, love, love their baby brother, and the dynamic of 3 has been just fine here! Does kinda make me question bringing a girl into a family of 4 brothers, but then again, I have absolutely no doubt that they would adore her if we did it. We'll see! But yes, people's comments are ridiculous! I soooo wanna tell them to just shove it!

[Soar]

My thinking on 3 and the middle child is if you know "middle child" behavior you can make sure they don't get lumped into that hole. My DS2 would definitely play by himself in a corner if we let him. I noticed it at about 9 months. DS1
Would have all of my attention and then I would look over and see DS2 playing quietly. So I sat down and talked to DH about how I was worried we are letting DS1 have all the attention. We both agreed to work on it and now at 20 months I think DS2 has more of a first child quality. Thankfully he is much more chill than DS1 but he has definitely taken his place in the fam and is right in the mix! I think he will be great as the second born! He isn't taking that middle child label bc we won't let him. Now when 3 gets here....get back to me I may have created a monster!!! But really it's up to you and DH. Don't let those mean comments get to you! Show them your 2nd born is nobodies middle child!!! I like that book Birth Order. Some of the descriptions are spot on and was good to be able to see what to look for so to speak. I wish I could remember the author. But a really great and quick read. It actually taught me a lot about myself. I am the first born!

Rainbow-my parents want us to have 4 children! They agree then that everybody has a buddy. DH is also up for it! I like the idea of 4 but that means I have to get pregnant again. Oh man...I am not a graceful pregnant person! I wish I loved it but I just really feel rotten the whole time. We will see how I feel once 3.0 gets here! Although the thought of 4 sounds really fun especially when they are older!

You know that saying you know when you are done. Do you guys feel like this pregnancy is your last because you know you are done?

[meeks32]

Are any of you ladies worried about 3rd child syndrome? I've had a few people make the comment around me "I'd never want just 3, third child syndrome. It's either 2 or 4" Before all these comments it never even crossed my mind. I was the baby of 3 kids and definitely felt like I was the least liked, bad child etc. etc. Even to this day I feel like my mom "protects" my older sister more because she's more sensitive than I am - and she was the middle child. Now I'm all worried we made a stupid mistake having more than 2 kids and wondering if this is a real concern. My DS2 is an angel and the cutest most sweetest child ever. I can't fathom ignoring him and not giving him attention.

Plus, what's with the idea that somehow 4 is better in that regard then 3. I get there is no "middle" kid, but naturally the more children you have the less attention you have for all of them individually. Doesn't that rule pretty much apply once you've passed 2 that your kids could somehow feel left out or what not?

Sorry for the random rant, it just totally gets me the wrong way when people make stupid comments like that to your face when you just said "we are so done at 3!" I was interested to hear your ladies thoughts as I know some already have 3 and going onto #4 so I'd be interested to hear what you think. And I know a lot of us are on #3

I SO used to think this too. I really brought into the idea of 2 or 4, and wholeheartedly believed it. Then I realised the more kids you have the less attention each would get, so this is just a misconception. ALSO If you are the type of parent that takes time to value each child individually and tell them their (different and unique) strengths often, I dont think anyone will feel left out (not legitimately anyway).

Also, I am trying to make piece with the fact that no matter how hard I try to be a great mum, I am bound to scar my kids in some way. I mean most people have a grudge over something from their childhood don't they? Even if its small. Hoping I can minimise that, but I guess its inevitable.

I also think it depends on the personality of each child and how well they play with the next one down, and the age gaps, as to who feels left out. My dh was the youngest of 3 and sometimes felt left out (but still wanted 3 kids, so not too badly) but he was 8 years younger than his middle brother and 10 years from the oldest one, so they had an obvious age gap advantage, no matter how good the parenting was.

[black&gold]

My thinking on 3 and the middle child is if you know "middle child" behavior you can make sure they don't get lumped into that hole. My DS2 would definitely play by himself in a corner if we let him. I noticed it at about 9 months. DS1
Would have all of my attention and then I would look over and see DS2 playing quietly. So I sat down and talked to DH about how I was worried we are letting DS1 have all the attention. We both agreed to work on it and now at 20 months I think DS2 has more of a first child quality. Thankfully he is much more chill than DS1 but he has definitely taken his place in the fam and is right in the mix! I think he will be great as the second born! He isn't taking that middle child label bc we won't let him. Now when 3 gets here....get back to me I may have created a monster!!! But really it's up to you and DH. Don't let those mean comments get to you! Show them your 2nd born is nobodies middle child!!! I like that book Birth Order. Some of the descriptions are spot on and was good to be able to see what to look for so to speak. I wish I could remember the author. But a really great and quick read. It actually taught me a lot about myself. I am the first born!

Rainbow-my parents want us to have 4 children! They agree then that everybody has a buddy. DH is also up for it! I like the idea of 4 but that means I have to get pregnant again. Oh man...I am not a graceful pregnant person! I wish I loved it but I just really feel rotten the whole time. We will see how I feel once 3.0 gets here! Although the thought of 4 sounds really fun especially when they are older!

You know that saying you know when you are done. Do you guys feel like this pregnancy is your last because you know you are done?

That's great advice! Our DS1 is also a huge attention stealer - but not on purpose. He is probably the least independent child I've ever seen. He just wants to be with someone talking 24/7 so he LOVES having DS2 around. DS2 is way more chill and definitely more independent, but I've recently noticed he always tries to get attention. I think regardless you just have to watch and make sure you are giving equal time to all children and neutering their unique personalities and needs.

I am definitely done! With two I just felt so unsettled. I wasn't 100% sold on 3 for a few reasons, but 2 just felt way to small for us and I couldn't picture us ending on 2. When I couldn't get pregnant with #3 I was constantly crying to DH about how I couldn't deal if we just had 2 and how I'd always feel like we weren't complete. Now that I'm pregnant I go through times where I'm super regretting 3 and worried about my other kids and why I did this. I am having a bad pregnancy when it comes to depression/anxiety though which I've never had before and it's kicking my butt. Some weeks I'm so excited about meeting #3, and then I have days like today where I'm practically crying all day! All this to say, I personally don't feel like I can manage more then 3. It's my limit and I still want to be able to give tones of attention to all my children while still having a bit of me time so I feel like 3 is my max for that.

[meeks32]

I am definitely done! With two I just felt so unsettled. I wasn't 100% sold on 3 for a few reasons, but 2 just felt way to small for us and I couldn't picture us ending on 2. When I couldn't get pregnant with #3 I was constantly crying to DH about how I couldn't deal if we just had 2 and how I'd always feel like we weren't complete. Now that I'm pregnant I go through times where I'm super regretting 3 and worried about my other kids and why I did this. I am having a bad pregnancy when it comes to depression/anxiety though which I've never had before and it's kicking my butt. Some weeks I'm so excited about meeting #3, and then I have days like today where I'm practically crying all day! All this to say, I personally don't feel like I can manage more then 3. It's my limit and I still want to be able to give tones of attention to all my children while still having a bit of me time so I feel like 3 is my max for that.

I've definitely had these moments too, wondering if I'm mad to have more some days then other days desperate for the next bub to arrive. I think it's the hormones because I was super sure I wanted 3 before pregnancy, and during the 18 months ttc!!!

3 is my max too. Unless we had a super oops. But dh plans to get the snip soon after the birth so I hope not!

[onthepond]

Beadin, LOVE LOVE that idea. What a cute way for them to be involved in something so amazing and fun. That will make them feel extra special, too. I totally love it, something different!!!

[BeadinMom]

I HATE ignorant people!!!

So I went to a school meeting tonight...
Everybody was sweet & supportive & congratulating me...
And then there were these two idiots...

In a classroom full of other parents, she tells me, "Congratulations!!! Was it a surprise?!?!!" So I'm thinking surely she's not asking if my baby is an accident or a mistake...and I'm not divulging all of my business in a classroom full of people anyway. So I assume she must be asking if the gender is a surprise, so I say yes. And she says, "Oh, it was a surprise?! A surprise to everybody?! Y'all weren't trying?" So I gave her the stupidest, most ugly look I could & cut my eyes off at her & didn't respond any further.

Then, I'm walking out & a friend says, "Congratulations!!" So I say thank you & she says, "God bless you!! I couldn't do it." WHAT-THE-HELL-EVER!!! I don't care what you would or wouldn't do...I didn't ask!!!

Maybe I'm being sensitive tonight, but some people are so ignorant!!!
Ugh...going to bed.

[Emily]

I HATE ignorant people!!!

So I went to a school meeting tonight...
Everybody was sweet & supportive & congratulating me...
And then there were these two idiots...

In a classroom full of other parents, she tells me, "Congratulations!!! Was it a surprise?!?!!" So I'm thinking surely she's not asking if my baby is an accident or a mistake...and I'm not divulging all of my business in a classroom full of people anyway. So I assume she must be asking if the gender is a surprise, so I say yes. And she says, "Oh, it was a surprise?! A surprise to everybody?! Y'all weren't trying?" So I gave her the stupidest, most ugly look I could & cut my eyes off at her & didn't respond any further.

Then, I'm walking out & a friend says, "Congratulations!!" So I say thank you & she says, "God bless you!! I couldn't do it." WHAT-THE-HELL-EVER!!! I don't care what you would or wouldn't do...I didn't ask!!!

Maybe I'm being sensitive tonight, but some people are so ignorant!!!
Ugh...going to bed.

When she said she couldn't do it maybe she meant sex! Perhaps she is such a cow to her husband that he can't perform!

i wish I had been with you as when she said "i couldn't do it" I would have slowly looked her up and down and said "yeah probably just as well" or something about the gene pool being better off that way if I thought she was to thich to get it! OK I am a bitch but blame it on the hormones, people like her really get to me;)

[BeadinMom]

LOLOL Emily!!! I love you!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Beadin - Uggggghhhh, I am so sorry you had to hear that. I am so not ready to face all the questions and comments. I am trying to stay in regular clothes for as long as possible so I don't have to hear the comments from strangers. Those are the WORST. People have no idea how having all boys makes us feel, and feel free to open their big mouths to comment on it. Makes me crazy! I am going to have to come up with a really good comeback to get them off my back! So, last week you said you wanted to call to get your results. Did you change your mind? :)

AFM - Looked a little more at Microsort...turns out, overall pg rates are only 12-15%, and not particularly recommended for someone who will be my age when I try again. Ugh. Don't think DH will be up for $5000 with only those odds (and I don't think I am either!) But, IVF/PGD is seriously daunting, with all the protocol, and no guarantee of a baby at the end, or how many cycles (and more $) it would take to get there. We *could* do the money, but really we don't have it just set aside for a rainy day, ya know?? While DH is willing, I am beginning to wonder if I am. At least with adoption, there's a guarantee of a baby in the end. BUT, it can actually end up being the most expensive option out there! Sooo...really beginning to ponder another sway. It is obviously SUPER risky, but I may hang around here just to see how the stats play out...and may just roll the dice again. Oh, but I just don't know if I can go through this heartbreak again. The one thing I would ABSOLUTELY change would be intense exercise. Didn't think I could do it, because I was too thin already, but obviously, I o'd just fine at a low BMI and got pg the first time. So, we'll see. An oops pg would also be a decent option, since there would be no obsessing. And of course, my final option is to accept being an all-boy mom and just choose to be happy with my 4 little blessings!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Rainbow my anatomy scan is October but I'm Team Green!!!!! Actually they don't tell gender here, so id have to pay for a gender scan anyway so hey, we will find out February when bubba makes their big debut!

[BeadinMom]

No, I haven't called...I'm chicken...LOL... :worry:

[onthepond]

Beadin - HOW RUDE! I am angry for you! I honestly feel like most people are good, though, and really don't try to say hurtful things...they are just not very intelligent or are socially awkward...who asks those questions anyway? That is just weird to me. I am glad the rest of the parents were supportive. Ignore the awkward ones...there is a reason they are that way :)

[Soar]

Beadin-sorry for those tacky comments! That woman has some serious issues! I like Emily's response!!!!!!

Emily-I LOL at the cow comment! :-)

AFM- So I have really been struggling today with the gender scan coming up. I'm not nervous I'm terrified! I can't imagine how I'm going to get the guts to actually open the envelope with the answer! I need a mantra or a modo or maybe some Valium beforehand! Not really on the meds but you get the point. It's so silly for me to be afraid of a baby and even when I write this down I think I'm silly but here I am afraid for the next day to come because that means the gender scan is coming too! Thanks for letting me rant for a minute!

[BeadinMom]

Awww Soar....I totally get it!! Thinking of you...<3

[Emily]

Soar I had to ask during the scan as I thought I had seen a penis. I also thought I saw a boy nub in the 12 weeks scan so I will not be training as a sonographer any time soon. I felt awful as she was telling us about the baby's healthy organs one by one (which I know is the most important thing) and all I wanted to say was "stop a sec - was that a willy?"

If you guess either way I would suggest finding out asap as you will torture yourself either way. The only way to stay team green, in my opinion, is to get them to tell you when to look away.

Beadin you should listen to onthepond as she sounds much nicer than me! My sister is always looking for the reason for people say and do things too. She would say that that Mum might be feeling overwhelmed and is really in awe of you. She might also think you have such a lovely family that and you are so secure that she didn't think through what she was saying. That would be my lovely sister's take on it. AFM i think she was probably just a thoughtless cow LOL!

[Soar]

Thanks Emily and Beandin for your replies! The support is very much appreciated!

Ok so this morning I was at a pool play date with some friends and a woman walks in with 3 boys. The baby boy was adorable and they looked to be about where my 3 will be once this one comes. So I thought I'm going to ask her if she has any advice on 3 boys the do's and don'ts. First she asked what I was having. I said we don't know yet. Then she asked if I was caring the same. I said this one is higher up. Then she was like well there are things you are suppose to do to try for a girl and then another woman chimes in oh yea my friend read all the books on what to do and she got her girl. I couldn't believe it we were openly talking about swaying at a pool play date! All this to say that gender desire is totally 100% normal. Whether anyone admits it or not. I have really been beating myself up about these feelings and here I am discussing it with 2 woman who all have boys! It made me feel a lot better and less like a selfish bratty I want it teenager.

Anyway just wanted to share the good that can come of talking about it. And I feel much better today!

Bring on Tuesday!

[onthepond]

Emily, you crack me up! I only TRY to view others that way...the reality is they are either jealous, socially awkward, or just plain mean. Beadin, I'm going with jealous :)

Goooooood luck Soar, I think you have a great attitude about this. Can't wait to hear your news!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Thanks Emily and Beandin for your replies! The support is very much appreciated!

Ok so this morning I was at a pool play date with some friends and a woman walks in with 3 boys. The baby boy was adorable and they looked to be about where my 3 will be once this one comes. So I thought I'm going to ask her if she has any advice on 3 boys the do's and don'ts. First she asked what I was having. I said we don't know yet. Then she asked if I was caring the same. I said this one is higher up. Then she was like well there are things you are suppose to do to try for a girl and then another woman chimes in oh yea my friend read all the books on what to do and she got her girl. I couldn't believe it we were openly talking about swaying at a pool play date! All this to say that gender desire is totally 100% normal. Whether anyone admits it or not. I have really been beating myself up about these feelings and here I am discussing it with 2 woman who all have boys! It made me feel a lot better and less like a selfish bratty I want it teenager.

Anyway just wanted to share the good that can come of talking about it. And I feel much better today!

Bring on Tuesday!

Yay, I bet you do feel better talking about it! I meant to reply earlier to say I'm sorry you're feeling so worried about your scan...trust me, I understand. I was sooo dreading finding out! So your feelings about your scan are so normal! Just think...your pink dream may very much be a reality come Tuesday!!

Waiting4Daisy - That's right...I forgot you were team green. Is this the first time you've done it? Aahh, you & Beadin are killing me! :)

Emily - Done any fun shopping yet?

Everyone else - hi!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Yes we told people we were team green for my third but heard boy didn't tell anyone until he was born. This is our first little team green. I'm going to be really good and ask the tech to get me to look away at 20 week scan if there are any gender scans (not that I think I would have a clue with a potty shot anyway).

Soar good luck hun. Beadin I can't wait to hear once you get brave enough to call!

[BeadinMom]

Can I just say that I LOVE you ladies???
I feel so comfortable & happy here....and I know, NO MATTER WHAT...I have a support system here that will allow me to deal with anything. That means SO MUCH!! <3

[Waiting4Daisy]

Beadin I feel the same way. I cannot wait until we start having our gooshy babies and sharing all our joy ☺. It's lovely to have people who understand all the same stuff you are going through x

[Soar]

Ok ladies this week has been terrible! Apparently I get worst daughter of the year award! Ugh!!!! My grandma is doing much better and my parents are moving her into a senior living apt not a nursing home. Which is excellent news! But......I didn't realize they were moving her today and my mom had been calling all day starting this morning and I didn't get the call till today at 2pm. Anyhow when I called her back she asked what I was doing and I said "going to to get my nails done for our vacation next week!" Her response "oh must be nice we are on our 3rd truck load moving your grandma out of her house!" Insert terrible daughter award here! Anyway, I was like oh ok I will come over right now instead and she said "don't bother we are on the last load." She was very upset and now I feel terrible. I kept saying "I'll come over now." But she wasn't having any of it! Ugh...my mom and I have a less than ideal relationship but this just made it much worse. My parents and my dad's two brothers are over there helping them move. Which is my grandma's 3 sons so they have enough help but I think it's that I'm not there that has made this a HOT subject. We had planned to head over there tomorrow after church to visit with grandma anyway which was the original plan but now they moved things up I guess and here we are!

If we communicated better this might have not been the situation but obviously we don't and so here I am.

Hope you guys are having a better weekend than I am having! Thanks again for letting me rant! This week needs to be over!!!!!!

[BeadinMom]

Aww Soar, that sucks...but PLEASE don't blame yourself. You really couldn't do much to help right now anyway.
I'm sure your mom is feeling emotional from what she's witnessing her mom go through & she wants your support...she just went about it the wrong way.
Maybe you could call her later & just tell her you're there for her.

So sorry you're having to deal with this.
Thinking of you & sending love & hugs...

[Soar]

Beadin-You are right. There isn't a whole lot I could do to help in regards to lifting but it is stressful and I need to remember she is probably just venting. We will go over to my parents tomorrow and see them after we see Grandma! Hopefully that will make her happy! She just needs to see our faces really during this time.

[Waiting4Daisy]

It was a genuine oversight soar, don't beat yourself up. You didn't know. It was a genuine mistake. Sure Beadin is right and your mum is just emotional now.

Hugs. You will see her tomorrow xxx

[BeadinMom]

Can I ask what prenatal vitamins you ladies are taking?

I bought Similac Prenatals...it's got two types...the HUMONGOUS white tablet & a red gel cap with DHA.

Today, for the second time...despite having eaten before, I vomited about 15 minutes after taking them. I don't think the big white tablet is sitting well with me.

Anybody have a decent size prenatal they're happy with??

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - Why didn't your mom call a little more ahead of time? I mean, you're pregnant and you've got little ones already! Don't feel badly AT ALL. Yes, just go see grandma tomorrow to show your support. Maybe you could unpack a few boxes just to show you are willing. :)

Beadin - I am taking Concept DHA. It's ok. Tastes weird, but not making me sick. I had a few other samples that I tried, and like better, but my doc had already written my prescription for Concept, since I took those with DS3. Anyway, it's not giant, and the vitamin and DHA are in one capsule. So that's a plus!

Waiting4Daisy - Yes, so fun to share joy when babies arrive. How long will you wait after DC4 to have another? I remember you saying you were pretty young. :)

AFM - Warming up to the idea of IVF/PGD. Sounds like the best bet for my age. Also pondering another sway, but I am super worried that DH's sperm might be the culprit. I know all men make 50/50 sperm, but Atomic's essay on it said that doesn't mean that certain men don't have biological/environmental factors that make their x or y sperm super healthy or unhealthy, etc. Ugh. Wish I could be confident that his sperm aren't an issue! If I wasn't concerned, I think I'd rather risk another boy than spend all that money. Definitely no need to stress about it right now, that's for sure. I may pm Atomic for some advice.

[Soar]

Rainbow-in regards to IVF I have 2 friends who have used IVF both have b/g twins! One was AMA (I believe 40) and the other was mid 30's. Anyway there is definitely happy endings going that route and their children are adorable of course! Now I don't know how many tries it took they both had children naturally before the IVF but they have always been upfront about their journey and always say what a blessing it was. So it couldn't have been so bad. Of course $$$ but in the end they won the prize! Hope that helps a little.

AFM-tried to call mom but she didn't answer! Ugh her silent treatment is no joke! :-) I'll take her a cake tomorrow as a piece offering! :-) Sent her a text and told her to rest tonight and tomorrow and that i can't imagine how tired she must be! Hopefully that will smooth things over a bit. Can't fault a girl for trying, right?

[meeks32]

Soar I can't understand how your mum is so annoyed at you, when you are pregnant with small children, so couldn't have helped much anyway, THEY changed the plans and didn't tell you, and sure you could have called to check but how were you to know? And you are busy too! She could have called you before the morning of the move and given you adequate notice. And now you are doing all the right things trying to make piece. I actually would be a bit annoyed at her if I were you!! Definitely go see your grandma on your own anyway, and wait for your mum to calm down a bit. I can imagine its a stressful time for her, but it takes two to tango, if she wanted your help and presence so badly, she could have organised things earlier rather than calling you every 5 mins on the morning of the move. I OFTEN don't see my phone with kids around, and accidentally leave it on silent etc. I can see how you would miss a few calls for sure!

Sorry everyone, we've been away at the in-laws for the weekend and I didn't get online much at all. Nightmare weekend with the kids, both wouldn't sleep and woke constantly and ds2 chose that time to get his 2y/o molar teeth, and of course I had no panadol or neurophen with me and he didn't show any distress until 1am. Sigh! SO SO TIRED. 2 nights of waking every 1-2hrs has me scared for a newborn, lol!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Aw Beadin, that is no fun. I don't really like those big prenatals. I think they are a bit unnecessary. I take floradix which covers a lot and has iron which I tend to be low in, probiotics for my tummy trouble and a tiny tablet which is folic acid and vitamin d (they were free here in Scotland where the sun doesn't shine enough lol). The floradix has about half the pregnancy dose of folic acid anyway but I don't like to risk it. The floradix are smooth shell like and about a tiny bit bigger than a smartie sweet if you have them over there.

Rainbow I just know you are going to get your daughter! If we go again, I'd maybe like 6 but dunno about dh. I think I'd prob leave it about two years. There is about a year and a half between ds2 and 3 and it felt a more difficult age gap than I've heard smaller or larger gaps. I used to say none after I'm 30 but think it'll be none after I'm 32! 11 years of baby making is enough for me! My dh is 5 years older so that's a consideration too. Though we are both healthy and fit, and I regularly get mistaken for a teenager (which had its disadvantages working in a high school). I wonder if you could get hubby's sperm analysed and find out what he is making?

[Emily]

What a pain Soar! Beadin is right your Mum is probably just letting off steam. Keep being nice and do not take the bait - you haven't done anything wrong so you do not need to feel bad. If you do not make the effort your Mum will remember that not how unreasonable she was!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar...enjoy the visit with your grandma today. It is totally wild that anyone would think that your family should be doing the lion's share of the moving....little kids and preggo gets one off the hook!! Hope that your mom realizes this and treats you better today.

Beadin'....prenatals...hmm, I am just on folic acid after the last m/c last fall. My iron levels were crazy high, even after weeks of bleeding, so I take my folic acid and Vit D. I think that the comments you have fielded about your sweet surprise should be left in people's head...or talked about behind your back :) As in...you should only hear how awesome another little one will be!!!!!

Meeks....what a weekend for you!!! Ds2 is just getting you warmed up for the new one!

Rainbowgirl....we had talked about HT, in particular IVF with PGD, after we found out DS2 was a boy, but then about a year ago, decided that we would be ok with a third boy. I have to say that it is only money....go for it and get your little rainbow (or two!!!)!!!!!!!

Waiting for Daisy...we were team green for our first...and it was pleasant in that I really did not give gender much thought. But I think that is more about first babies rather than being team green. It was cool to be in the delivery room and hear my hubby call out is was a boy!!!

AFM...I have been just waiting for the prenatal visit on Tuesday, baby is moving tonnes....loves the early am to boot me out of bed!! I am trying my best to just enjoy this pregnancy and not focus on the 3% right now...that bridge is to be crossed when she arrives.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Ladybugs I hope either way I can just be thrilled in that moment with my sweet baby. It sounds like a magical moment, just holding your baby and not caring about gender.

Beadin I have been sick today too. I can now virtually not travel by car, even a tiny distance. I am 15 weeks and I never had anything but mild queasiness with my other pregnancies and this time has been horrific. My only saving grace is I was on holiday from work when I was most sick. I also have issues with my blood sugar which gets pretty low at times and have stocked up on crackers and lucozade to try and combat that (why I'm amazed low blood sugar sways girl when mine is constantly dropping and I have three boys lol).

Soar hope mum comes round and apologises. You are pregnant and she should appreciate you have a lot on your mind.

[onthepond]

Ladies, need to share. All day today I have just been feeling so gross and down about how large I am already. This is my 2nd and my tummy is completely flat when I wake up in the morning, but as soon as I eat anything I swear it looks like I am 25 weeks pregnant. Part of the issue is that I was 15 lbs heavier when I conceived this one than when we conceived DD (thanks HE diet :)), but I am seriously so grossed out with myself. I weighed myself today and already weigh 172. I was 183 the day I gave birth to my daughter :( and I am only 13.5 weeks. I gained 35 lbs when pregnant with her. I have an athletic build...played college soccer...but seriously I just look big and fat and gross. Sigh. Is anyone else feeling this way or have felt this way? I am really struggling with this. SO SORRY for the vent!

[BeadinMom]

Yesssssssssssss...totally feel that way!!! <3

[Soar]

Onthepond-(((hugs))) yes I feel like this all the time! We go thru so much when we are pregnant heartburn, worry, m/s, and weight gain, stretch marks.....the list goes on! I promise everyone sees your glow and doesn't see what you are seeing. We were actually just talking about this today at church. We feel so badly during pregnancy but yet we are doing the most amazing thing and making a person!!!! It's crazy really! I feel like I'm trapped in someone else's body while pregnant. Don't worry your athletic build will come back you will be yourself again, we all will!

((((Hugs))))

[Emily]

Ladies, need to share. All day today I have just been feeling so gross and down about how large I am already. This is my 2nd and my tummy is completely flat when I wake up in the morning, but as soon as I eat anything I swear it looks like I am 25 weeks pregnant. Part of the issue is that I was 15 lbs heavier when I conceived this one than when we conceived DD (thanks HE diet :)), but I am seriously so grossed out with myself. I weighed myself today and already weigh 172. I was 183 the day I gave birth to my daughter :( and I am only 13.5 weeks. I gained 35 lbs when pregnant with her. I have an athletic build...played college soccer...but seriously I just look big and fat and gross. Sigh. Is anyone else feeling this way or have felt this way? I am really struggling with this. SO SORRY for the vent!

My tummy starts small and ends up huge by the end if the day too! I am going to do light weights so that my arms are toned if nothing else!

I don't think dieting is a good idea when pg unless you seriously overweight which you are so not even if you do not like what the mirror shows:) The only thing we can do is eat heathily (no empty calories) and do light exercise. That way we will be more toned during pregnancy and there won't be as much to lose afterwards.

[myrainbowgirl]

Onthepond - Aww, so sorry you feel yucky! Yes, same here...tiny tummy in the morning, giant by the end of the day. It's a bummer! Will you nurse? Of course, that will help the weight just melt off! It'll be gone before you know it!

Waiting4Daisy - Oh wow, 6! I love it!! Wish I was so brave! Still not sold on 5. We'll see how 4 goes. Am just super happy that DH is supportive. If I decide to do another sway, I will definitely have age on my side. I guess that's one advantage of being so OLD!! :)

Meeks - Boo on the weekend. Hope you can catch up on your sleep now that you're home! And poor little DS2...hope he feels better soon!

AFM - Fun day with the fam. We drove up to the mountains and had such a nice family day together...well, except that DS3 (15 months) was pretty wretched in the car. It's a 2-2.5 hour drive, and really, we should know better. He just can't handle it! But, when not in the car, it's a sweet, fun time together. Talked with DH about baby names...starting to feel better about this little guy. :) Oh, and seriously saw multiple rainbows today...like 6 or 7 different ones at different times. Feeling encouraged! :)

[Emily]

Myrainbowgirl have you come up with any good names yet?

We haven't got much further than Emily surprise surprise. I am not 100% sure if i want that name but have not got anything better yet. I have been thinking of that name for over a year now as a sort of codename for swaying and DG etc so it is hard to think beyond it. DS1 suggested flower and DS2 still wants it to be a boy and to call it Buzz Lightyear. Hmmm not much help then!

[Soar]

Meeks-sorry about your crazy weekend! I have days like that often. No fun! Hope DS2 feels better!

Rainbow-glad you had a great weekend! Sounds like the mountains was a great get away!

Emily-names are so hard! We are in the same boat with names if this is a boy. :-)

AFM-mom is all better now! Glad that's over!

Does anyone have insomnia? I have been waking up at 4:30am for the last week. I haven't been napping or sleeping in. But at 4:30 all the sudden my eyes pop open! What is up? Baby is not active at that time so I don't know what it is. I am getting about 6 hours of sleep! And I am exhausted! What can I do?

[meeks32]

Onthepond I totally feel you. I think this time I have worried about weight gain more but I think it's mainly that I forget how it feels being pregnant. Because its easy to remember the sickness or cute movements or when your belly was too big to paint your nails, but its hard to remember the constant challenge watching the scales go up, and having to be ok with it!!!

Seriously, it's the only time in life we are supposed to see the weight pile on and not worry, yet we are all programmed to only want to see the scale go down. Maybe don't weight yourself for a while. I find I feel fatter on days I weigh myself!!!

I have gained a fair bit already and was blaming LE for wrecking my metabolism but I read your story and now just think swaying changes our body (its meant to, that's why it works) but also our self image. It will fall off when bubs arrives and you lost it before, you will again.

But I totally know how you feel! Xx

[Soar]

Ok ladies by this time tomorrow I will have the gender envelope in my hands! Eck!!!!! Who here thinks I have enough will power to wait until Monday? Bahahahha!!!! Leave for our trip Wednesday evening so I only have to be brave for the rest of the day on Tuesday and Wednesday! Eck! Eck! Eck!

Meeks-do you have your scan tomorrow? I can't remember if you said you would get a scan or not. Eck for you to if you do! This is exciting but also nerve racking!

[Waiting4Daisy]

I'm much fatter this time round, put on just 14 pounds already. Pre preggo I am 110-114 pounds, a uk size 8. Petite. Pregnancy I get a massive bum and can't even wear a maternity size 10 trousers. I'm just gonna wear dresses this time round!

Normally I haven't really put on any weight at this point. I am way fatter in this pregnancy and the weight is on my hips, my bump is going out the way to the sides as well as front, and my legs/thighs/face. People keep saying how neat I am and I'm like my god you should have seen me with my others! I was so small bump wise, like always carry so neat that I'd measure 32 weeks at term (my babies were never restricted growth or anything), just cos I don't carry much water or anything.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Meeks hope you get some sleep now xxx

[Waiting4Daisy]

Soar eeeeeeeek how exciting x

[Soar]

So the dr office just tried to call and reschedule my scan for tomorrow! I was freaking out on the inside but staying calm and told them in a nice way that I was going to need to be seen tomorrow for my scan. They passed me to 4 different people on the phone but they finally agreed that I needed to be seen since I will be spot on 20 weeks tomorrow! Ok now my blood pressure can come back down! So tomorrow it is!

[meeks32]

Soar omg I would have died. I totally get not wanting to reschedule that scan! Whew! So how many hours?

I have 7hrs until my scan, just a quick one at my ob during a checkup, but he will look if I ask him (which I will), unless he's off delivering babies, even then the midwife can scan me, but i'm not 100% that she will hazard a guess. My plan is to ask for a potty shot and a full length body side shot regardless of who scans me. That way if they won't guess I can see for myself. I know what balls look like by now!

[Soar]

Meeks-mine is 18 hours away! But we are waiting to open the envelope until Monday. We have a vacation planned and I'm afraid to open it before then. We leave on Wednesday! I really feel like you have your daughter in there! :-) Can't wait to hear your exciting news!
I don't know about you but I have been going over my sway and everyone else's and looking at the stats and hear I am nervous as can be! :-) Tomorrow that envelope will be in my hands that will give me an answer to my journey with swaying. It's such a heavy answer!

Wishing you loads of luck Meeks! It's going to be great!

[onthepond]

MEEKS AND SOAR - the suspense is killing me! I cannot wait to see your updates :) YAY! So much excitement on the horizon.

Thank you, all of you, for making me feel normal. It's so weird. I honestly never had body image problems before the HE diet started...I gained 12-15 lbs on that and now that is just carrying over I think. The truth is, I just need to relax. I am not eating crazy and am eating healthy, so if this is what my body is going, then I guess it knows best. I do need to exercise more and plan to now that I am out of the first trimester but was just too sicky then. You're all amazing and I appreciate you sharing so I don't feel alone in this.

Can't wait to hear about all of the updates to come!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - The only one resonating right now is William David...calling him Will. My Dad is William, DH's is David. So cool to honor them both! But we are not decided yet, but that's probably my fave at this point.

Soar - OMG, you're killing me! So the vacation is this week, and you're waiting till Monday when you come back? I admire your patience! Looking forward to hearing!

Meeks - Oooh, hoping I get your update before I go to bed tonight! Excited for you!

Onthepond - Do not feel bad about your weight gain!! Good for you for eating healthy. I have been craving restaurant food! :/ So probably not eating as healthy as you are...and I still don't feel bad. Haha!

[Emily]

Oooh I love William and David together. We couldn't use William for either of our boys as My husband's name is Little so the poor boy would be tortured at school! Are you going to take the envelope with you?

Please stop looking at sways! Everyone is different and stressing because you didn't exercise and someone else did isn't going to help! There are so many perfect sways that resulted in gorgeous little opposites - we just cannot say that something will work everytime for everyone.

Meeks how exciting! I don't know whether I would trust the midwife's opinion if I were you so make sure you get lots of shots. I am sure she is adequately skilled but you want certainty! You might know today!

I am second guessing my tech a lot at the mo as I just cannot see three lines anywhere on teh scan. i wish I could just be normal and enjoy it but in the back of my mind I keep remembering that my cousin was told pink and out popped blue on the day. I might post a clip from the vid.

[meeks32]

IT'S A GIRL! 15 weeks 1 day, so still early, and I got no pics as my obstetrician had to run off and deliver a baby, but he said it looked like a girl and I was watching and didn't see anything remotely boy like on the scan, and saw a good shot between the legs where there was NOTHING!

Omg, omg.

[Salsa]

Meeks!!!! Woohoo!!!! That's just a tad exciting now isn't it!!!! Congratulations Hun!! Couldn't be happier for you!!! x x x

[Emily]

IT'S A GIRL! 15 weeks 1 day, so still early, and I got no pics as my obstetrician had to run off and deliver a baby, but he said it looked like a girl and I was watching and didn't see anything remotely boy like on the scan, and saw a good shot between the legs where there was NOTHING!

Omg, omg.

OMG OMG OMG!!!!! I was hoping there would be an update when i logged in. Congratulations you must be over the moon. I am so happy for you.

So, do you still get another scan at 20 weeks so we can all see the photos?

[Huds]

IT'S A GIRL! 15 weeks 1 day, so still early, and I got no pics as my obstetrician had to run off and deliver a baby, but he said it looked like a girl and I was watching and didn't see anything remotely boy like on the scan, and saw a good shot between the legs where there was NOTHING!

Omg, omg.


Awww that's fantastic news!!! Contgrats on your little girl :-)

[Tree]

Meeks I wrote on your nub thread but huge huge massive congratulations!!! Soooo exciting! It's still not sunk it for me I'm having a girl so I'd guess you're in a similar state of shock! Go get your little girl bits, soooo much fun! X

[meeks32]

OMG OMG OMG!!!!! I was hoping there would be an update when i logged in. Congratulations you must be over the moon. I am so happy for you.

So, do you still get another scan at 20 weeks so we can all see the photos?

Yep still get the scan, it's on 24th September and I see my ob again that day too so basically 3 chances to confirm, between this scan and then!

[Soar]

Meeks----This is great news to wake up to!!!! Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!! So excited for you!!!!!

[xxNitaxx]

IT'S A GIRL! 15 weeks 1 day, so still early, and I got no pics as my obstetrician had to run off and deliver a baby, but he said it looked like a girl and I was watching and didn't see anything remotely boy like on the scan, and saw a good shot between the legs where there was NOTHING!

Omg, omg.

Congratulations :) x

[xxNitaxx]

Hello ladies

Hope you are all well

Sorry ive been awol Ive been busy trying to sort house out (taking my mind off of the scan) and spending some quality time with OH (who is now back in temp work but only a few weeks). Tomorrow is Scan day at 11:10am UK time they will be looking for makers for downs but also hope to find out gender. Im so nervous about it. I doubt i will get much sleep tonight. I just hope everything is fine.

Good luck to anyone else with scans the next few days hope you get your DG xx

[Waiting4Daisy]

Congrats Meeks! That is super exciting though with that nub I'm not surprised.

[Soar]

I have the gender envelope in my hands! My DH took it in his briefcase bc he said I would look!

The sonographer was so sweet and nice. She let us look at the baby for a long time! My guy instinct when I looked at the baby was boy. I don't know why but it did. So I definitely want to wait until Monday. I know it's delaying the inevitable but I want to enjoy this vacation!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Omg soar you are amazing. I'd look. I couldn't have that info and not look lol. I'm sure you still have a fifty/fifty chance for a girly :-)

[black&gold]

Congrats Meeks! and good job for not looking Soar - we just didn't ask to find out at the ultrasound and it was surprisingly easy not finding out! I hope you enjoy your vacation!!

We need to do a new tally or something of how many of each gender since it seems like almost everyone knows!

[black&gold]

Random point - I hate how everyone is guessing girl for me this pregnancy. I've never had girl guesses before with either of my boys. People would always say "I so see you having a boy" or "I think it's another boy". This time everyone says girl! NOT that it means anything but, ugh.. it's getting me thinking there could be a slight chance (like maybe 1% lol!!)

And of course with all you ladies finding out I keep going over and over my scan in my head trying to remember if there were any clues. I don't know why but the tech was fully like "look, there's it's femur bone" and squinty eyed I looked because thats so close to the goods but can't remember what everything around it looked like! This will be a long 3 months until D-day

[Soar]

I hear you MrsBlakely! Everyone has said the same thing with this pregnancy as well. Since its our 3rd I think they are all thinking surely its a girl this time! That's my main reason for waiting till after this vacation to find out because its a good friends wedding and all of our friends will be there and I don't know if I knew it was a boy if I could keep it together with all the girl comments. At least this way feeling like its a boy but not knowing for sure will make this wedding much easier when I hear their gender comments!

You are way more brave than me I don't know if I could wait another 4 months! That's the main reason DH is holding the envelope for me! :-)

I agree we need to update our known genders in a list if everyone is ok with that idea.

[myrainbowgirl]

Meeks - Replied on the other thread. So happy for you!! :)

Nita - GL tomorrow! Will pray for a perfect little bean...keep us posted!

Soar - Yes, I don't blame you not wanting to tell people at the wedding...Monday will come around soon enough! Glad you got to look at baby so much and that everything looks good! Looking forward to your update, and have a great trip!

MsBlakely - Yeah, that would be tough...would totally get my hopes up. Was telling a girlfriend yesterday that we're having another boy, but told her how sure I was going into this pregnancy that we would have a girl, and she said, "Well, maybe it actually is a girl!" My dad said the same thing, and it's hard not to take those things to heart...and I already know I'm having a boy from MaterniT21!!

[meeks32]

I have the gender envelope in my hands! My DH took it in his briefcase bc he said I would look!

The sonographer was so sweet and nice. She let us look at the baby for a long time! My guy instinct when I looked at the baby was boy. I don't know why but it did. So I definitely want to wait until Monday. I know it's delaying the inevitable but I want to enjoy this vacation!

Lol Soar thats something my DH would do, he knows you well obviously!! hahaha. I would have looked in a moment of weakness at 3am in the morning.

I hope your intuition is wrong and totally understand wanting to delay if it may be less than ideal news. fx for you, can't wait until Monday now.

[meeks32]

beadin I was getting the same comments and was annoyed because it got my hopes up, but also because I felt people were not making honest accurate guesses, they were telling me what they thought I would want to hear, because I have two boys already. The (possibly) false hope was so hurtful. I wanted to either make an educated guess with you ladies on the nub, or just assume it was a boy, not be told by random people on the street its a girl, then get my hopes up based on nothing more than a thoughtless comment.

[xxNitaxx]

I would like to introduce to you all our perfect little GIRL. Scan went really well. No markers found but doesnt mean she doesnt have downs but looking good so far. Sonographer said she was perfect and it was a pleasure to take pics of her. Happy mummy and daddy here :)

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[Emily]

beadin I was getting the same comments and was annoyed because it got my hopes up, but also because I felt people were not making honest accurate guesses, they were telling me what they thought I would want to hear, because I have two boys already. The (possibly) false hope was so hurtful. I wanted to either make an educated guess with you ladies on the nub, or just assume it was a boy, not be told by random people on the street its a girl, then get my hopes up based on nothing more than a thoughtless comment.

People are funny arent they?

Occasionally peope, just 'get it' though. In my family we always do a baby sweepstake based on points for guessing date and time, weight and sex. This time my sister guessed girl even though her gut was telling her it was a boy and My mum said boy as she didn't want to get my hopes up. i just love the fact that they both thought soooo much about my GD that they did that.

They are so much nicer than the person who wished me a girl because "your boys are such monsters!" I laughed it off but they were so lucky not to get a hormonal outburst! I have of course wished the same thing for the same reason but they are MY monsters dammit!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Nita...I think that we are in the same boat of waiting to see what our babies come home with...no markers here for Down's, but due to the kidney/bladder concerns, there is increased risk of chromosomal issues. Congrats on your little cutie!!!!!

[black&gold]

FYI ladies, I got my username changed (used to be MSBLAKELY) so just incase you are wondering who the newbie is.. :)

[Waiting4Daisy]

Nita congrats hun. What a cute little girl. So hope both you and ladybugs' babies are just a million percent perfect as I'm sure they will be

[Soar]

Nita-that's amazing news congratulations!!!!! You must be so excited!

Alrighty ladies we are off for our vacation! No Internet or cell phone service where we are going! Sounds crazy but its true! Taking a calling card so we can chat with the boys everyday tho! So I will see you all Monday with an update on gender!

Have a great week!

[onthepond]

MEEKS - SO SO SO HAPPY FOR YOU! YAY! I just knew it!!! How exciting!

Soar - I cannot wait to hear your news - have an amazing vacation!

Nita, so great to see a good update - what a beautiful baby girl you have there!

Ladybugs, was thinking about you again - I am sure your babe is just perfect in there, too!

[xxNitaxx]

Nita...I think that we are in the same boat of waiting to see what our babies come home with...no markers here for Down's, but due to the kidney/bladder concerns, there is increased risk of chromosomal issues. Congrats on your little cutie!!!!!

Yeah just waiting and hoping everything will be fine when she is born. Fingers crossed both of ours babies will be just fine :) x

[xxNitaxx]

Nita-that's amazing news congratulations!!!!! You must be so excited!

Alrighty ladies we are off for our vacation! No Internet or cell phone service where we are going! Sounds crazy but its true! Taking a calling card so we can chat with the boys everyday tho! So I will see you all Monday with an update on gender!

Have a great week!

Thanks. Yeah very excited to go girly clothes shopping :) x

[meeks32]

People are funny arent they?

Occasionally peope, just 'get it' though. In my family we always do a baby sweepstake based on points for guessing date and time, weight and sex. This time my sister guessed girl even though her gut was telling her it was a boy and My mum said boy as she didn't want to get my hopes up. i just love the fact that they both thought soooo much about my GD that they did that.

They are so much nicer than the person who wished me a girl because "your boys are such monsters!" I laughed it off but they were so lucky not to get a hormonal outburst! I have of course wished the same thing for the same reason but they are MY monsters dammit!

O-M-G I would have slapped that person. I'm sure your boys have moments, and given their age, I'm sure that's quite regular, but I can tell you mine are exactly the same and I'm yet to meet anyone with a young boy that's not, especially true for women who have more than one quite close together! But they grow out of it, how many 10-15 year olds do you see acting like menaces in cafe's or supermarkets? In fact by 15 most of them are glued to their headphones and ipads and wont even say hi, let alone scream the house down! I feel like I know you and you WOULDN'T let them get away with everything, and would definitely be doing your best damage control. Boys have so much testosterone, mine go mad in winter particularly (now) because they need to get outside and run it off! I am constantly breaking up fights, telling them to be quiet, share, stop throwing etc, but THEY BLOODY DO IT ANYWAY and there isn't a thing I can do other than keep being persistent and consistent with the rules. Eventually they will get it, in the meantime they ARE monsters, often!!!

[meeks32]

Nita CONGRATS! So happy bubs is healthy, and a girl, go to those shops right now!!! x

[BeadinMom]

Another school meeting...
And I wanted to punch somebody in the face!!!

"Congratulations!!! Ya know my daughter's gym coach has 5 boys."
"Trying for a girl, huh?"

No. We were trying for a healthy baby, A $$ HOLE!!!
It makes me so angry...like I won't love this baby if it's a boy.
My blood boils. Ugh.

Sorry ladies...it's just so frustrating!!!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Beadin - Uggghhhh. I would have been pi**ed, too! Got to skip out on our girls' night tomorrow (DH has to work late), but I'm delaying the inevitable, as our group (along with hubbies and kids) has a social Friday night. I know I'm going to have to announce then. Need to brace myself for the comments. NOT excited about that AT ALL.

Soar - Have an awesome vacay!

Nita - Congrats on your sweet baby girl!! So happy for you...and wonderful news that they saw no markers! There are so many false positives on those screenings, I honestly highly doubt she is anything but perfect!

Black&gold - Taking note of your change! :)

AFM - Think I've been feeling a little movement the last couple days. YAY!! I was told at my 11-wk scan that placenta was "right in front"...so I'm assuming she meant anterior. Had the same thing with DS2, and barely felt movement till 18 weeks...so hoping maybe this time placenta is slightly off dead in the front so that I can feel things sooner. Hoping what I've felt the last day or two is the real thing!

[Emily]

Nita, so cute!

Beadin - you made me remember what my mouthy (and therefore very good) friend replied when asked if she was trying for a girl "yes i make Mark wear high heels and a bra when we have sex!" I laughed for about a week and the person she said it to felt a bit stupid which was a bonus! Having said that they then hunted her down at the next play date and bored her stupid with their ideas on old wives' tales. Ah, if only there was a mute button IRL.

Thanks Meeks I needed a bit of a boost today as have just received an email saying that DS1 got in a fight at school.:( Another child started it so it was just one hit back in retaliation but not ideal especially in the first 2 weeks of school. Ironically he has self-defence class this afternoon which is clearly a waste of time and money as he seems to be able to do that a little too well already!

[BeadinMom]

Bahahaha!!!! That is hilarious, Em & I really needed it. :)
Thank you!!! XO


Please don't worry about that sweet boy...I'm proud of him for standing up for himself!!!
And at least you know you got your moneys worth out of the classes...lol ;)

[black&gold]

Beadin - got a similar stupid remark while doing my glucose test today! The lady asked what I had at home already and then said the usual "Oh so you're wanting a girl obviously" which I replied "We'd be happy with either". Why is it assumed that I'm having another just to get a girl. We wanted another baby.. because 2 felt to little for our family and quite honestly.. since I already have 2 boys.. another boy would be the best situation for other 2 because there's nothing like same gender siblings. Yes, I'd love a girl... but I wasn't that silly to think #3 was definitely 100% going to be one! We did it because we wanted another child!!! Oh man.. the joys of peoples comments!

Myrainbowgirl - I'm sorry you have to break it to your friends, that's honestly the worst. I remember having to do it with DS2 (I didn't even want to announce DS1 being a boy) and it's never fun when you know you likely won't get encouraging words and you'll leave feeling even more depressed! We all know how that feels.. all to well lol so you are not alone :)

Nita - amazing news about baby! Is this your first? Congrats and I'm sure you probably have nothing to worry about!

So I think I asked this once before but now that we all know genders - what have your babies heart rates been? I know it's a total OWT but it still gets my hopes up and down every time! With both ds1 & ds2 it never was over 145.. even when they were bouncing around. This baby has been 150's, & 157 at 20 week scan which naturally made me think.. "could it be..." but today at my prenatal it was 147 so now i'm like "total boy" LOL! Curious to hear about your babies!

[meeks32]

Nita, so cute!

Beadin - you made me remember what my mouthy (and therefore very good) friend replied when asked if she was trying for a girl "yes i make Mark wear high heels and a bra when we have sex!" I laughed for about a week and the person she said it to felt a bit stupid which was a bonus! Having said that they then hunted her down at the next play date and bored her stupid with their ideas on old wives' tales. Ah, if only there was a mute button IRL.

Thanks Meeks I needed a bit of a boost today as have just received an email saying that DS1 got in a fight at school.:( Another child started it so it was just one hit back in retaliation but not ideal especially in the first 2 weeks of school. Ironically he has self-defence class this afternoon which is clearly a waste of time and money as he seems to be able to do that a little too well already!

Quite the contrary, self defence classes and martial arts classes seem to teach quite a lot of self restraint as a first port of call. They also often teach how to reduce rather than escalate a situation, before finally ending in the actual self defence parts. My best (also mouthy, haha) girlfriend in school was a black belt in karate and never, ever got into fights, and now is the most peaceful calm person I know! She always talked about how to avoid fights not cause them, but being equipped just in case you can't.

[meeks32]

Beadin - got a similar stupid remark while doing my glucose test today! The lady asked what I had at home already and then said the usual "Oh so you're wanting a girl obviously" which I replied "We'd be happy with either". Why is it assumed that I'm having another just to get a girl. We wanted another baby.. because 2 felt to little for our family and quite honestly.. since I already have 2 boys.. another boy would be the best situation for other 2 because there's nothing like same gender siblings. Yes, I'd love a girl... but I wasn't that silly to think #3 was definitely 100% going to be one! We did it because we wanted another child!!! Oh man.. the joys of peoples comments!

Myrainbowgirl - I'm sorry you have to break it to your friends, that's honestly the worst. I remember having to do it with DS2 (I didn't even want to announce DS1 being a boy) and it's never fun when you know you likely won't get encouraging words and you'll leave feeling even more depressed! We all know how that feels.. all to well lol so you are not alone :)

Nita - amazing news about baby! Is this your first? Congrats and I'm sure you probably have nothing to worry about!

So I think I asked this once before but now that we all know genders - what have your babies heart rates been? I know it's a total OWT but it still gets my hopes up and down every time! With both ds1 & ds2 it never was over 145.. even when they were bouncing around. This baby has been 150's, & 157 at 20 week scan which naturally made me think.. "could it be..." but today at my prenatal it was 147 so now i'm like "total boy" LOL! Curious to hear about your babies!

I totally agree how annoying the assumption is that you had another 'just' to try for a girl, I have 2 boys and this is my third and that drove me nuts! Because we truly wanted a big family, not just a girl. I was also quite prepared for 3 boys, although I won't deny I wanted a girl like mad. But it had nothing to do with trying for another. If we had a pidgin pair first, I would still have gone again.

The heartrate thing is bulls**t. In my experience (this was told to me by a midwife that had been working 20 years, and I have since watched and believe it) the heart rate has more to do with A) age of foetus, B) How much, how recently and what you just ate or drank (particularly coffee or sugar) C) The babies personality. Especially C. She told me and I was sceptical but then my ds1 was always 150-170 for heartrate and he is super hyperactive in real life, and always has been. My ds2 I thought was around 120-130 but then checked my book and he went down to 110 quite often at checkups, even after coffee! He is the most relaxed calm kid i've met. This one is 130-150 and every time it hits 150 I think NOOOOO not another hyper one!!! GO DOWN GO DOWN! We had a girly nub and were told girl at my last scan, at 15 weeks, waiting to confirm at 19 at the anatomy scan.

[black&gold]

I totally agree how annoying the assumption is that you had another 'just' to try for a girl, I have 2 boys and this is my third and that drove me nuts! Because we truly wanted a big family, not just a girl. I was also quite prepared for 3 boys, although I won't deny I wanted a girl like mad. But it had nothing to do with trying for another. If we had a pidgin pair first, I would still have gone again.

The heartrate thing is bulls**t. In my experience (this was told to me by a midwife that had been working 20 years, and I have since watched and believe it) the heart rate has more to do with A) age of foetus, B) How much, how recently and what you just ate or drank (particularly coffee or sugar) C) The babies personality. Especially C. She told me and I was sceptical but then my ds1 was always 150-170 for heartrate and he is super hyperactive in real life, and always has been. My ds2 I thought was around 120-130 but then checked my book and he went down to 110 quite often at checkups, even after coffee! He is the most relaxed calm kid i've met. This one is 130-150 and every time it hits 150 I think NOOOOO not another hyper one!!! GO DOWN GO DOWN! We had a girly nub and were told girl at my last scan, at 15 weeks, waiting to confirm at 19 at the anatomy scan.

LOL!! That's how I feel about movement!! People always say that the way babies are in the womb is just how they'll be outside and that totally freaked me out because DS1 was nuts in the womb - he is such a good boy, but man alive that kid has energy and he NEVER stops! However, DS2 was exact same and moved around constantly and is the calmest little boy ever. #3 has also been quite the mover.. but it took a lot longer to feel. I'm a little worried about having another hyper kid.. but DS2 gives me hope that it might not mean anything. Maybe i just have a super uncomfortable uterus and they are always trying for a better position LOL!

[myrainbowgirl]

Agree with Meeks on heartrate. DS1 was roughly 130-140 after 12 wks, DS2 150ish, and DS3 140ish. 2 good friends of mine had girls in the 130-140 range and just *knew* they were having boys based on that. Nope...pinkies! Anyway, I wouldn't think a thing about it!

[Salsa]

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Mummy giving Darcey a bath x

[Salsa]

Sorry!!! Totally sleep deprived and posted in wrong forum!! Don't even know how I did that!! Sorry!!!

[meeks32]

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Mummy giving Darcey a bath x

Yay Salsa! She is just beautiful!! And may I say, SO ARE YOU! I did NOT look like that after giving birth!!!

[Salsa]

Haha Meeks!! You're too funny! Won't be long and this will be you and Lexi!!! I'm so excited for you x x

[BeadinMom]

Salsa...
She is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Salsa what a beautiful tiny little doll. Agree you look gorgeous too

[fourthtimesacharm]

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Haven't been on for a while just wanted to say hi! :)

[Tree]

Just woke from another nightmare!! :-(

[monkeysnuffer]

Wow, your daughter is exquisite. I am so excited for mine.

[black&gold]

Just woke from another nightmare!! :-(

I have been having several crazy dreams too - almost every night. I've had a few really bad nightmares though - one where I actually was crying in my dream and woke up crying! I'm also having so many crazy gender dreams where we find out it's a girl and then I wake up all happy and realize it was just a dream lol! (We are team green)

[Tree]

I have been having several crazy dreams too - almost every night. I've had a few really bad nightmares though - one where I actually was crying in my dream and woke up crying! I'm also having so many crazy gender dreams where we find out it's a girl and then I wake up all happy and realize it was just a dream lol! (We are team green)

The dream/nightmare I had last night is that I had a scan. After I had it I said can you double check its still a girl. So they looked at its head (?) and did 3d on its face. It was very clear the baby had Down syndrome. Then all of the sudden the baby was born (at 24weeks) and it was a boy. So I had a boy with downs in my dream. It felt so real. To the point at which in my dream I was just wanting to wake up but knew I couldn't as it was real life. Then I woke up and was really confused! It took a while for it to sink in it was just a dream (I hope!!). Got me feeling really nervous about the health and sex of my baby!

I don't even know after 3 or 4 scans how I can still be questioning if it really is a girl, but I can't help it!

[Emily]

Aw Tree that must have been really disturbing! I really believe that dreams are just your brain sorting out anxieties and junk from day to day life. Please do not for a second worry that your dream will come true. If you had a dream that Ewan McGreggor or your best friend's husband wanted to sleep with you would you stop watching TV and cut off ties with your friend?!!! Oooh now I am thinking about Ewan what a lovely start to the morning!

[myrainbowgirl]

Boo on all the bad dreams! I can (happily) say I have had NONE. I haven't remembered a dream in months and months.

Hope everyone is well!

AFM - Had a rough day yesterday. GD just hit me all over again. Ugh. Had a nasty cry and rant to DH. Can't say I felt much better afterward. But woke up this morning feeling better. Not sure what was going on! Anyway, I guess it's a process to overcome GD...need to give myself some time. Today's a new day!

[meeks32]

Aw Tree that must have been really disturbing! I really believe that dreams are just your brain sorting out anxieties and junk from day to day life. Please do not for a second worry that your dream will come true. If you had a dream that Ewan McGreggor or your best friend's husband wanted to sleep with you would you stop watching TV and cut off ties with your friend?!!! Oooh now I am thinking about Ewan what a lovely start to the morning!

Tree, what Emily said is exactly how I think about dreams too, your brain processing thoughts, fears, and information you encountered during the day or week. I have had less dreams lately than in previous pregnancies but I've still had a few scary ones and a few that were good. A few nights before my 15 week scan I had a dream where I clearly saw a ultrasound potty shot of the baby and there was nothing between the legs. At the scan, that's exactly how it was, so you could be tempted to say I had a premonition... But I really just think that was my dream state letting my mind wander to my hopes, and it was a lucky coincidence they were actually what happened IRL.

Lol em, so true, I dream all kinds of random stuff that I can't possibly take seriously in real life, no matter how real it is, like once with ds1 I had a dream that I gave birth down our town's Main Street, in the park, at night, then all of a sudden my DH wanted me to go into every shop (which were open, even though they dont open at night) and show all the people we know our new baby... whilst I was still naked. LOL. I woke up really pissed off with him! Another time I dreamt I had 6 nipples and had to feed my baby like a cat. LOL. Or that I had baby and put him in my back pocket for safekeeping (he fit) and accidentally sat on him. LOL. Not only do my dreams seem to be my brain's way of sorting out hopes and fears, but it tends to randomly mesh in other things I've seen that day, like I went to the park, saw a cat, or put something in my back pocket!!!!

[BeadinMom]

So sorry, Rainbow...XO

[lillis]

hi!
I am due dec 9 :) (according to my last period) and dec 3 (says my ultrasound) What do you rhink I should trust?

[Tree]

Thanks girls... I have very strange dreams as standard and agree that it's my anxieties and worries coming out, of course I hope it's not true too! Last nights dream was sooo bizarre. I can't even make sense of the that one!

Myrainbowgirl I'm so sorry about the GD. It's hard and naturally will take time to adjust your mind from one way of thinking to another. It's also loss of a dream, a dream you've been focusing on for a long time and whilst you've been blessed with a different kind of dream it's still a huge adjustment to get your head round and let get of. One of the hardest things about all of this is that to a greater or lesser extent (we don't know how much swaying sways exactly) we can't totally control the outcome. You give it your best shot, then hope. Dreaming and fantasising about your DG then occupies your mind (if your like me, completely!) until you find out one way and other at which stage you can contribute your daydreaming or feel you just stop, considering this has been something you've been thinking about so intensely for a while its going to be hard to just stop. Time will make it better!

Lil they always go off the scan. I personally now keep the furthest date away in my mind so that the wait doesn't feel so long if you go overdue. Also the window of 5 weeks (37-42) to give birth is pretty big anyway.

[Waiting4Daisy]

Take your time to rant as much as you want rainbow.

I always have terrible dreams but it hits a new level when pregnant. With ds3 I had sleep paralysis (where you are awake but still dreaming so you hallucinate) and I thought there was a demon in the mirror who wanted to take my baby and the baby was scratching at the inside of my belly in fear.

This time round I've had dreams in which the morning sickness has crept in, like one where I dreamed I discovered I had cancer and had to start chemo while I was in labour so was vomiting everywhere. And another where I got Pre-eclampsia and was vomiting everywhere. Both these dreams I woke up and was sick for real. I think it is (sadly) normal but it doesn't make the dreams less scary.

[meeks32]

Take your time to rant as much as you want rainbow.

I always have terrible dreams but it hits a new level when pregnant. With ds3 I had sleep paralysis (where you are awake but still dreaming so you hallucinate) and I thought there was a demon in the mirror who wanted to take my baby and the baby was scratching at the inside of my belly in fear.

This time round I've had dreams in which the morning sickness has crept in, like one where I dreamed I discovered I had cancer and had to start chemo while I was in labour so was vomiting everywhere. And another where I got Pre-eclampsia and was vomiting everywhere. Both these dreams I woke up and was sick for real. I think it is (sadly) normal but it doesn't make the dreams less scary.

How interesting, I get Sleep Paralysis anyway, and got it even more often with ds1, and my normal amount with ds2, this pregnancy nothing yet but there is still time. It's terrifying isn't it? The hallucinations are far worse and more real than any dream or nightmare I've ever had, and perhaps exasperated by the fact you think you are awake but can't move. I also get a searing burning headache between my eyes like my forehead is on fire with it, and feel super tired after. I have only met one other person IRL who has it, am kind of excited to know you do too! But obviously not happy for you, wouldn't wish it on anyone!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Meeks it is horrific isn't it? I only get it pregnant or very sleep deprived. So far not had anything this time so fingers crossed. With ds1 and ds2 I used to think someone had broken into our flat at the time and I was awake and could see the house and hear footsteps of someone coming for me.

The time with ds3 was worse though. Felt like Rosemary's baby or something. I get a headache after too and my limbs hurt because obviously I've been trying to force them to move. My friend had it where she thought she was being violated, very scary.

Apparently sleeping on your back makes it worse, not quite sure why. But I do tend to end up rolling over even when I start on my side. Funnily enough mine happens more when I am napping, not usually when I sleep properly at night. Don't envy you having it either Meeks, but it comforting to know we are not alone.

[Soar]

It's a GIRL! I'm having a GIRL! Ahhhhhhhh! I can't believe it!

I'm posting this earlier than Monday bc we came home early and my parents took pity on us and brought the boys to our house instead of having to drive to theirs and then back to ours and so I told DH after we put the boys to bed lets just open the envelope! We were so tired that I thought what the heck lets just get to it! We both sat on the sofa and my DH said lets say a prayer really quick before we open it and so we did. We opened the envelope read the words and both starting crying. I have never felt so much raw emotion. Both of us couldn't stop.

I can't believe I am writing the words it's a girl in my post. I'm in totally shock to say the very least. My intuition was completely wrong! Ramzi was wrong the skull theory was wrong they ALL pointed to a boy. Most of all my intuition had me going boy all the way. I am rambling I know. Please forgive me. I am still in disbelief!

Ladies I'm just so thankful for all of your support and listening to me rant. I can't believe one of you didn't tell me to shut up already.

Write more later and I will also catch up on all the happenings that have gone on since we were away with no cell phone service.

[BeadinMom]

Awww SOAR!!!!!!
I AM THRILLED FOR YOU!!!!
How incredibly exciting!!!!

Enjoy every minute of buying PINK!!!! XO

[Soar]

Thank you Beadin! I really appreciate it! My heart is still pounding!

[Bayoudancer]

So excited for you! Congrats!!


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[BeadinMom]

Hey Bayou...
Im from NOLA. Welcome!! :)

[myrainbowgirl]

CONGRATS, Soar!! Wow! So happy for you!!

[Tree]

So pleased for you Soar!!! It will take a while to sink in... I still can't believe we are having a girl, I don't think I will until I actually hold her in my arms. Go get some fun girlie bits! And post some pics! :-)

[Emily]

Yey! Soar:DD::bigsmile::highfive::celebrate::cheerteam:

My baby is quite excited by your news too - she hasn't stopped kicking since I read your news. ay be she is trying to message your baby through my stomach in morse code:)

Have you told anyone yet?

[Huds]

Huge congrats that excellent news. Girls are lovely :-)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Soar....congrats!!! Now wipe those tears of joy away and go shopping!!!

[onthepond]

YAY SOAR! What a great update to read this morning. I am so, so happy for you and this just goes to show, sometimes we don't know what we think we know :) ;) You deserve this and what an intimate moment with you and DH - thanks for sharing. MANY MANY CONGRATULATIONS to you!!!

[black&gold]

Yay! Congrats Soar! What a great way to end your weekend!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Omg it's turning into a pink streak!!! Now I really want to find out but I'm not going to!

Congrats congrats congrats xxxxx

[Soar]

Thank you ladies for all your congratulations! I was so excited to post it bc I knew you guys would share in the joy of it all! You all did NOT disappoint!

Still having lots of moments of tears today. I went to the store and purchases a pair of pink bloomers and I lost it right there! Tears just ********* away! I looked crazy! It's the first thing I have bought for her and I totally became a ball of emotions!

We have our gender reveal party this Wednesday. The boys will open the box of pink balloons and I can't wait to see DS1 reaction! I am sure it will be brief and then he will move on to something else but I'm still really excited for his reaction to a sister!

Ladies thanks again for sharing in my excitement! I really appreciate your support!

[Bayoudancer]

Thanks!


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[meeks32]

It's a GIRL! I'm having a GIRL! Ahhhhhhhh! I can't believe it!

I'm posting this earlier than Monday bc we came home early and my parents took pity on us and brought the boys to our house instead of having to drive to theirs and then back to ours and so I told DH after we put the boys to bed lets just open the envelope! We were so tired that I thought what the heck lets just get to it! We both sat on the sofa and my DH said lets say a prayer really quick before we open it and so we did. We opened the envelope read the words and both starting crying. I have never felt so much raw emotion. Both of us couldn't stop.

I can't believe I am writing the words it's a girl in my post. I'm in totally shock to say the very least. My intuition was completely wrong! Ramzi was wrong the skull theory was wrong they ALL pointed to a boy. Most of all my intuition had me going boy all the way. I am rambling I know. Please forgive me. I am still in disbelief!

Ladies I'm just so thankful for all of your support and listening to me rant. I can't believe one of you didn't tell me to shut up already.

Write more later and I will also catch up on all the happenings that have gone on since we were away with no cell phone service.

Sorry I've been away, CONGRATULATIONS!! I knew it! For some reason I just knew. Xxxxxxxxxx

[Soar]

I'm up again at 4am! Right now its 5:15 so I have given up in sleeping. Is anyone or has anyone dealt with insomnia before during pregnancy? I can go to sleep but can't stay asleep! Any remedies?

[I Love Ladybugs]

I'm up again at 4am! Right now its 5:15 so I have given up in sleeping. Is anyone or has anyone dealt with insomnia before during pregnancy? I can go to sleep but can't stay asleep! Any remedies?
No remedies....just lots of empathy!! This has been the only pregnancy this way and I am just waiting for mat leave when it doesn't matter if I am tired! I just stay up near the end and try to go to bed a little earlier....it is way better than after we found out about her health issues and my brother's accident....I was up every night for 2 weeks for at least 2-3 hours in the middle of the night.
What are you up to today??? It is my DS1 first day of kindergarten...he is so ready for school and I am excited for him!!!!

[Soar]

Ladybug-Awww that's so exciting to have a kindergartner!!!! I am sure he is having a blast!!! I am sure you were sitting there wondering where the time has gone! This sleeping thing has really thrown me for a loop! I think I can I think I can! I told myself I don't need more than 5 hours sleep today anyway! Haha!

AFM-today is the gender reveal party! :-)

[black&gold]

So with everyone who knows what their having, was your mothers instinct right? And we're not talking the "it just can't be a .... So its probably a ..." I'm meaning deep down true honest heart feelings.

I really don't think I believe in it but curious to hear what others thought. With DS1 I just knew he'd be a boy, and more because I wanted a girl I just knew it wouldn't happen. DS2 I went a little back and forth but it was only because all relatives were having their second boy so I thought someone had to have the girl, but I still think I just knew boy. (And my sister was wrongly told boy early and ended up having the girl lol)

But with both I feel like it was more a dooms day mindset. I wanted that girl so bad just to know I had one that I expected it wouldn't happen because I wanted it too (I'm a little pessimistic lol)

[Emily]

So with everyone who knows what their having, was your mothers instinct right? And we're not talking the "it just can't be a .... So its probably a ..." I'm meaning deep down true honest heart feelings.

I really don't think I believe in it but curious to hear what others thought. With DS1 I just knew he'd be a boy, and more because I wanted a girl I just knew it wouldn't happen. DS2 I went a little back and forth but it was only because all relatives were having their second boy so I thought someone had to have the girl, but I still think I just knew boy. (And my sister was wrongly told boy early and ended up having the girl lol)

But with both I feel like it was more a dooms day mindset. I wanted that girl so bad just to know I had one that I expected it wouldn't happen because I wanted it too (I'm a little pessimistic lol)


I was totally wrong - i changed my mind every day and saw imaginary penises at the scans. Doomsday guilty as charged!

[Tree]

With my first I felt he was a boy and we went surprised to discover he was when he was born. I had a very boy bump and believed in all of the old wives tales... My second I did have moments where I thought girl but not sure if that was more to do with wanting a girl. This time I did feel very strongly girl but I think that was due to swaying, and also a friend who is a bit psychic telling me Id have a girl. It was his feeling that gave me the most confidence actually. Even though typically that's not the sort of thing I'm into or believe. This man is different, special.
Anyway with all that being said and 3 or so scans suggesting girl the fear has crept in and I can't help but wonder if a willy has grown!!

[myrainbowgirl]

Soar - Oh no! Hope you're sleeping better now. I have a good friend who dealt with insomnia during her pregnancies, and ugh, it sounds terrible! Hope it improves soon. On a brighter note, have you gone shopping yet??

Mother's intuition - Mine was way off. Thought for sure DS3 was a girl, and same with DS4. Obviously, my desire for a girl clouded everything!

AFM - Had an extremely tough weekend last weekend, but once again, DH was amazing and had just the right words to say. Oh so thankful for him! Trying to let go of my dreams at this point, and just trust God's perfect plan for our family. I know in my heart it's what's best. I know it will be a process to get over GD, but I am confident I'll get there.

Totally went shopping today! Unfortunately didn't have much time, but got a few cute little things, and am glad I am having my first winter baby so I actually NEED to shop! Woohoo!

[onthepond]

I can share TODAY that my intuition was WAY off, found out we are having a baby BOY after all the stressing. I cannot believe I was so off, I honestly felt certain that it was another girl!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Rainbow, glad your hubby is so great and you are feeling a bit better.

Because we are going team green this time we are getting rid of all the baby clothes and I will buy some neutral stuff. Bought one little girl and one little boy outfit for baby's first outfit (the boy outfit was that little sleep gro GeCon has in her avatar.

Enjoy all that retail therapy. Winter clothes are soooooo cute

[Soar]

Onthepond! Congratulations that is excellent news! Boys are so fun and they love their mom the best!

Rainbow-I think your DH wins the best Husband award. He sounds so amazing! You are very lucky!

Black&Gold-my intuition with DS1and2 was correct I knew they were both boys. With this baby I really thought she was another boy bc I just assumed I wouldn't get a DD. Plus I wouldn't really look at this baby objectively. I told myself everything looked like it was a boy even if there was a girl sign I always turned it around. Weird but true!

AFM-this week has been crazy DS1 started preschool and DS2 started gym class and we are full speed ahead. I forgot how busy it gets when all the programs start up again. Today I feel like a million bucks I slept until 7:30am! I haven't done that in forever! Went to the dr Thursday for a check up. My blood pressure is stable at the moment. I am hoping to keep it that way. Really trying to drink tons of water and lay on my left side whenever I possibly can. Seems to be doing the trick! Fingers crossed I can keep bed rest at bay this time around!

[Huds]

I can share TODAY that my intuition was WAY off, found out we are having a baby BOY after all the stressing. I cannot believe I was so off, I honestly felt certain that it was another girl!

Yay huge congrats!!! Im so thrilled for u. Its hard to believe isn't it lol i still can't believe im baking a boy x

[Waiting4Daisy]

Congrats onthepond!!!! How exciting!!!

[onthepond]

Thanks ladies - it definitely still seems surreal and guess what...you ladies and me are the only people in the world that know :) I decided that I couldn't wait, but DH told me he will still go team green. I want it to be a complete surprise to everyone so I am not going to tell a soul. Not even to my very best friend. But tried as I might, I just had to know. I am a planner and it helps me to bond.

[Emily]

With my first I felt he was a boy and we went surprised to discover he was when he was born. I had a very boy bump and believed in all of the old wives tales... My second I did have moments where I thought girl but not sure if that was more to do with wanting a girl. This time I did feel very strongly girl but I think that was due to swaying, and also a friend who is a bit psychic telling me Id have a girl. It was his feeling that gave me the most confidence actually. Even though typically that's not the sort of thing I'm into or believe. This man is different, special.
Anyway with all that being said and 3 or so scans suggesting girl the fear has crept in and I can't help but wonder if a willy has grown!!

I am not going to believe it till I see her! Still have not bought any clothes as though that will jinx things. If only we had see through tummies and coukd sneak a peek whenever we wanted:)

[Emily]

Thanks ladies - it definitely still seems surreal and guess what...you ladies and me are the only people in the world that know :) I decided that I couldn't wait, but DH told me he will still go team green. I want it to be a complete surprise to everyone so I am not going to tell a soul. Not even to my very best friend. But tried as I might, I just had to know. I am a planner and it helps me to bond.

Congratulations! Such good news.

Wow how are you gong to keep from beaming? Won't Dh guess from your mood?!

[Tree]

Onthepond huge congratulations!!!

Emily I feel exactly the same way, until I see her for real I won't properly believe it! Not that that's stopped me from buying girl clothes.... :-)

[myrainbowgirl]

Congrats, onthepond!!

[meeks32]

I can share TODAY that my intuition was WAY off, found out we are having a baby BOY after all the stressing. I cannot believe I was so off, I honestly felt certain that it was another girl!

So glad you got your dream gender hon, my intuition was totally wrong with ds1, ds2 I had no 'feeling' or intuition as to what he was but knew the moment I saw his feet at the scan (man feet), and this time I swayed which I think made me too invested in the result to trust intuition anyway!!!

Hope you are on cloud 9 right now, probably dancing around with Soar!!

[meeks32]

I am not going to believe it till I see her! Still have not bought any clothes as though that will jinx things. If only we had see through tummies and coukd sneak a peek whenever we wanted:)

I feel the same, I keep saying things like "if its a girl" and dh looks at me like I'm mad because he takes doctors so seriously and if they say something he believes it 100%. I think I'm just protecting myself.

You know if I had a see through tummy I would imagine a penis every time I saw cord! Because I seem to be fine with convincing myself its a boy but totally unable to accept I might finally have my girl! If they had told me boy at 15 weeks I would never question it!!! Stupid logic. Lol

I brought one pink lot of things when I found out but since have had pink-block, and can't bring myself to buy anything else until I verify one more time at my 19 week scan. At least dh will be there for that one.

[Soar]

Hi Ladies! I wanted to come in and say hello! This weekend we had a garage sale and it was boiling hot but we did it! Now I've got some cash to buy baby girl some well deserved outfits and bows! Note to self garage sales are NOT a good idea in 100 degree weather! Yikes it was hot!

Hope everyone is feeling good! Off to start another crazy week! 22 weeks tomorrow!

[black&gold]

I hope everyone is doing well! This board has really slowed down the last few days!

I am certainly feeling like this pregnancy is moving along and already taking a toll on my body. I'm a few days shy of 27 weeks and I already feel like I'm falling apart. I made the BIG mistake yesterday of scrubbing our shower tile and grout with a toothbrush (can I just say I HATE cleaning showers and grout!!!! and definitely don't do it enough...) and my pubic bone today feels like it's broken. I was squatting for probably and hour while cleaning and it didn't bother me at the time, but man oh man.. waking up this morning I sure felt it!

Oh and anyone else getting nervous about delivery? I had a traumatic delivery with DS2 - lets just say they got me to start pushing and didn't have a doctor there fast enough so they made me hold him in while he was fully crowning until a doctor came and I was pretty sure my pelvis and pubic bone were snapping in pieces. I'm so scared to feel that type of pain again... I have such a high pain tolerance but I was going into shock it was so bad! Why am I doing this again? LOL!

[Emily]

Blackandgold delivery is all i can think of at the mo and it is really getting me down. Both options suck (go back to UK and be apart from DS1 and DH for 2+ months or deliver here and risk an unnecessary C section / not have adequate care in place in case there is anything wrong with the baby).

How awful to make you hold him in! Women give birth all the time without docs - that just does not make sense. DS1 was traumatic for the opposite reason- the doc was there and just wanted to get him out asap so she could catch a train. His neck muscles were ripped and needed all sorts of treatment to sort it out. I am a whimp and always go for epidural - it has been the only pain relief both times but do not know how ladies can push when they are in such agony.

[black&gold]

Blackandgold delivery is all i can think of at the mo and it is really getting me down. Both options suck (go back to UK and be apart from DS1 and DH for 2+ months or deliver here and risk an unnecessary C section / not have adequate care in place in case there is anything wrong with the baby).

How awful to make you hold him in! Women give birth all the time without docs - that just does not make sense. DS1 was traumatic for the opposite reason- the doc was there and just wanted to get him out asap so she could catch a train. His neck muscles were ripped and needed all sorts of treatment to sort it out. I am a whimp and always go for epidural - it has been the only pain relief both times but do not know how ladies can push when they are in such agony.

Emily! I'm sorry to hear about your horrible experience too and the tough decision you have to make this time around! There really would be no right answer so I'm sorry you're having to stress about that! I can't believe how fast this pregnancy is going and how soon it'll all be over. I keep telling myself I need to just relax and enjoy the moments right now with just my 2 little boys because our house will be rocked for a few months when baby #3 comes until we all settle in!

[Soar]

I'm with you on delivery anticipation! I have already started thinking about a third c section and what the recovery will be like. Ugh wish it was an option for a natural birth even though I know some stories end a little scary but that's not an option for us. I have high blood pressure during pregnancy and normally they take the baby at 39 weeks to keep everyone safe. Although this time my BP isn't as high so we will see!

I also think this pregnancy is flying by! Seems like things will be busy with all the holidays coming up and then right after New Years baby will be here! We will all be busy bees!

Black and Gold sorry about the shower scrubbing! You are nesting early! :-) This time tell the nurse to catch or your husband will! That will teach them to tell a woman in labor to hold on. I can't imagine! You will have a good birth story this time!

Emily-I think it will all turn out fine in the end. You will have a sweet baby and a good birth story I know it!

[Waiting4Daisy]

Aw sorry to hear about the delivery anxieties. I'm a crazy lady that loves giving birth. Gas and air only for me! Though ds3 was back to back wee ratfink! That one was less fun! My first two labours dead quick, ds3 took longer only cos he was back to back! So been told to be on red alert when contractions start lol.

All my babies have required very little pushing and practically delivered themselves! This one already has a tricky vibe about them now. Guess I'll have the added incentive of pushing to see what my baby is though.

Aw be careful with that nesting. Don't overdo it hun xxxx

Ladies you are def having girls! Go pink mad!

[black&gold]

Aw sorry to hear about the delivery anxieties. I'm a crazy lady that loves giving birth. Gas and air only for me! Though ds3 was back to back wee ratfink! That one was less fun! My first two labours dead quick, ds3 took longer only cos he was back to back! So been told to be on red alert when contractions start lol.

All my babies have required very little pushing and practically delivered themselves! This one already has a tricky vibe about them now. Guess I'll have the added incentive of pushing to see what my baby is though.

Aw be careful with that nesting. Don't overdo it hun xxxx

Ladies you are def having girls! Go pink mad!

I'm the same when it comes to labours - they are quite fast and don't require much pushing. We also are waiting until delivery to know the gender so I don't know if I'll be more excited and willing to push, or if I'll be too scared and want to hold the baby in longer for a few more hours of "maybe, just maybe it could be a girl.." LOL!

[Emily]

Aw sorry to hear about the delivery anxieties. I'm a crazy lady that loves giving birth. Gas and air only for me! Though ds3 was back to back wee ratfink! That one was less fun! My first two labours dead quick, ds3 took longer only cos he was back to back! So been told to be on red alert when contractions start lol.

All my babies have required very little pushing and practically delivered themselves! This one already has a tricky vibe about them now. Guess I'll have the added incentive of pushing to see what my baby is though.

Aw be careful with that nesting. Don't overdo it hun xxxx

Ladies you are def having girls! Go pink mad!

It would be great to have the option of gas and air. In a lot if countries it is epidural or nothing. - i have 'needed' an episiotomy both times so was glad that it was available but would really like the option of something else other than stirrups and docs.

The hospital that i would have to give birth at here give an epidural as standard at 3cm(?!), only like DH to be there for the last push otherwise they send them off to the cafeteria, have crappy little delivery rooms with just a bed and stirrups (no room to walk around, no ball, no real space for DH etc), give oxytocin without your consent, don't like labour to go on too long (tend to whip ladies into surgery for C sections as it is more profitable), ignore requests for the baby not to be scrubbed with antiseptic to make them clean, do not like you to have your baby in the room with you at night and try to sneak a bottle or two in even if you have said breastfeeding only.

There are so many things that they do as standard that I don't want. The midwife said all of that could be done the way that I want but there is no guarantee that they will stick to it on the day. I am so scared they will ignore me and my wishes and switch from English to French or vietnamese so that DH will not understand. We have thought about having the birth plan translated but in the thick of it will tehy stop and read it or just do what they have always done? I have almost decided to go back to the UK except it will break my heart to leave DS1 for so long.

[Tree]

It would be great to have the option of gas and air. In a lot if countries it is epidural or nothing. - i have 'needed' an episiotomy both times so was glad that it was available but would really like the option of something else other than stirrups and docs.

The hospital that i would have to give birth at here give an epidural as standard at 3cm(?!), only like DH to be there for the last push otherwise they send them off to the cafeteria, have crappy little delivery rooms with just a bed and stirrups (no room to walk around, no ball, no real space for DH etc), give oxytocin without your consent, don't like labour to go on too long (tend to whip ladies into surgery for C sections as it is more profitable), ignore requests for the baby not to be scrubbed with antiseptic to make them clean, do not like you to have your baby in the room with you at night and try to sneak a bottle or two in even if you have said breastfeeding only.

There are so many things that they do as standard that I don't want. The midwife said all of that could be done the way that I want but there is no guarantee that they will stick to it on the day. I am so scared they will ignore me and my wishes and switch from English to French or vietnamese so that DH will not understand. We have thought about having the birth plan translated but in the thick of it will tehy stop and read it or just do what they have always done? I have almost decided to go back to the UK except it will break my heart to leave DS1 for so long.

Emily why don't you just stay at home for as long as possible. So you can use your bath and have your DH and other home comforts. Then go in when contentions are sufficiently close that they won't epidural. As for staying etc its your baby and you surely can just leave. I feel so sad for you, it's a horrible predicament. I'm not sure what I would do, but I suppose ultimately I couldn't leave my lo's for any extended amount if time either. Ohh... You poor thing!

I'm also dressing labour, mine have not been easy. I've had a fully back to back which was so ridiculously painful and my first was just very long! Hoping to have an easier time of it this time. I like to go natural, just a bit of gas and air if needed but after the back to back experience I'd be incredibly apprehensive to go through that pain free again. Labour hurts no doubt, but that was another level.

I also worry about the babies in labour, being quite an anxious person. I suppose for all the fears of c-section the safety of your baby is one thing you don't have to worry about.

This pregnancy is flying by, it's totally mad. I'm 26 weeks now. The only thing that makes it still feel far off is that its due at Christmas, and with summer just finishing Christmas feels quite a way off. Once the Christmas adverts start I think I'll get quite excited. :-) I can't wait to meet this little girl!

I'm still having strange gender dreams though... Last night I had a dream that I had twins and was was definitely a boy and the one that was meant to be a girl seemed to have a very small willy... Strangely this was also my second premature birth dream, which considering I always go two weeks over it a bit of an odd thing to be dreaming about!

[Am3a]

It would be great to have the option of gas and air. In a lot if countries it is epidural or nothing. - i have 'needed' an episiotomy both times so was glad that it was available but would really like the option of something else other than stirrups and docs.

The hospital that i would have to give birth at here give an epidural as standard at 3cm(?!), only like DH to be there for the last push otherwise they send them off to the cafeteria, have crappy little delivery rooms with just a bed and stirrups (no room to walk around, no ball, no real space for DH etc), give oxytocin without your consent, don't like labour to go on too long (tend to whip ladies into surgery for C sections as it is more profitable), ignore requests for the baby not to be scrubbed with antiseptic to make them clean, do not like you to have your baby in the room with you at night and try to sneak a bottle or two in even if you have said breastfeeding only.

There are so many things that they do as standard that I don't want. The midwife said all of that could be done the way that I want but there is no guarantee that they will stick to it on the day. I am so scared they will ignore me and my wishes and switch from English to French or vietnamese so that DH will not understand. We have thought about having the birth plan translated but in the thick of it will tehy stop and read it or just do what they have always done? I have almost decided to go back to the UK except it will break my heart to leave DS1 for so long.

Emily - any chance you could deliver in Singapore? You could head over at 36 weeks with your son and maybe hubby can fly in for the weekends?

Singapore has an amazing reputation for its high westernised medical standards.

I have a gf who lives in Jakarta, Indonesia... Singapore was one of her options, instead she flew to Perth, Australia. She was induced a week early so her hubby could be there.

Thinking of you!

[myrainbowgirl]

Emily - Ugh. I am so sorry that you are in this situation! I like the suggestions others are making...stay at home as long as possible, or maybe another closer country?

My labors are long. Yuck. DS1 was 28 hrs, DS2 12 hrs., and DS3 22 hrs...from very first contraction to delivery. Needed oxytocin with DS1 & 2, but not with DS3. Once active labor started, it went pretty fast...like 2.5 hrs. or something. LOVE the hospital I deliver at...it is amazing. It's called SkyRidge hospital and is locally known as SpaRidge. LOL. I feel very blessed to have had such a great experience each time!

AFM - 16-week checkup today...all is well. :) Still only feeling occasional flutters...darn anterior placenta! :( Emotionally doing ok...still have my moments, but feeling better for the most part. Doc said today I am blessed to have 4 boys...I know she's right!

[onthepond]

Hi ladies - crickets around here :) I hope you're all doing well. I need your help! What do 2nd time mama's need? I am starting to prepare and am just really struggling because most of our 'big items' are gender neutral (car seats, strollers, pack n play, swing, bouncer, bumbo, crib, rocker, changing table, etc). Here is what I know we should get:
new bottle parts, new pacifiers (even though dd never used them), diapers, wipes, crib mattress (dd keeping hers for her toddler bed), double stroller, diaper changing pad cover, breast pump accessories and milk storage bags...anything else? What am I forgetting? Waiting on clothes since baby's gender is a 'surprise' :) Thanks for all of your help!