For people that want to record what they are eating (to help be strict!)

[swish]

Oh, it was yum!! I think they're new, I haven't seen them in tesco before, it was toffee and honeycomb

[DoulaMama]

HUNGRY!!!!!:tissue::tissue::tissue:

[Mochagirl]

Hey ladies - I've been off with my visiting brother all day, and there's so much to catch up on!

You're all making me think I should stop taking Cal/Mag too. I've been taking it mainly because I'm eating so little calcium with this diet that I'm worried about the state of my teeth (which are actually quite terrible with weak enamel to begin with) and my bones (my mom is in the early stages of osteoporosis, so I worry about that). But for the short term I suppose it would be ok to have low calcium. Maybe if I only take 1 pill a day instead of 3? I suppose I should go read Atomic's Calcium thread so I can better understand the reasons not to take it. Remember that I'm an old-timer IG swayer, and it was always about Calcium, Calcium, Calcium...it's hard to get that out of my head.

DM - I was bfing my 2 year old until about a month ago, and so I wasn't taking SP or Baby Aspirin either...luckily for me ds decided to self wean at just the right time so I could start taking those drugs. I think the danger of Baby Aspirin (and cranberry for that matter) is that because they're blood thinners, they could cause a bleeding episode with your little one.

Sorry I can't respond to everyone individually - this thread is becoming so popular!

Today I didn't even bother tracking my nutrients because I'm hosting my brother so eating more normal food.

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: 1/2 a regular white kaiser bun with goat cheese and roasted red peppers (YUM! If it hadn't been for that full sodium bun, this would fit within the diet), lemon gelato for dessert
Supper: We went out for Indian. I had: eggplant curry, sag paneer and paneer korma with some rice and half a Naan bread (for those who don't know, paneer is just Indian fresh cheese, so all the food was vegetarian). I also ate some Pappadum even though I knew I shouldn't (it was gloriously salty!) I also had a Mango lassi. Technically I didn't eat anything not allowed on the diet, but I'm sure when I consider my high salt lunch I went over 1000mg today (though not by too much, I hope).
Snack: grapes, Sour Patch Kids

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- Yeah after doing a bit more research I feel somewhat comfortable with Chitosan, and def. no Saw palmetto, Cal/Mag I'm going to skip, and baby aspirin I think I'll incorporate the week of O(taken at least 6 hours before nursing my little one). The main reason Dr's would say no to a nursing mom taking aspirin is because children that are sick/have fever could get Reyes Syndrome(not sure what that is but it's not good)from having it their system. There has never been a documented case(through nursing) so I'm sure that it's not something that us nursing moms would really have to worry about but I just want to be cautious. Oh and your meals today sound scrumptious!!!! I think I'm salivating right now...

So far it's been a pretty good day:)
Am- Tea
12pm- salad with tuna, balsamic
3pm-airpopped popcorn, piece of low carb bread with strawberry jam, jar of applesauce:)
6pm- 2pcs Cinnamon french toast with maple syrup(1 egg)

Totals so far(without tea)
Cals-1004
Fat-38.5
Protein- 34
Sodium- 606

[swish]

Dm, that's fabtastic!!!
mocha, you have made me feel starving at 8am!!! That meal sounds delicious!

[twinkle]

I'm not even bothering with caffeine free any more as I discovered no caffeine was because it hinders absorption of calcium and I'm not including that in my sway :D Lots of diet coke means I spend most of the evening walking to and from the toilet though!!

I hadnt thought of it like that thats good it means i can buy the bigger boxes that are on a deal at asda Thanks. Ive also decided to stop my cacuim and magnesium sups and just stick to the baby asiprin and the folic acid

[twinkle]

Dm, that's fabtastic!!!
mocha, you have made me feel starving at 8am!!! That meal sounds delicious!

yes me too may have st start looking at this in the evening when i have eaten. I wish i had all the lovley ideas you ladies have with the food.

[Indira]

Maybe if I only take 1 pill a day instead of 3? I suppose I should go read Atomic's Calcium thread so I can better understand the reasons not to take it. Remember that I'm an old-timer IG swayer, and it was always about Calcium, Calcium, Calcium...it's hard to get that out of my head.
This is what I do, my calcium/magnesium is solubile, I take one spoon to get the normal daily amount (including the calcium I get through food) instead of 3 spoons I would take to get at IG swaying levels. I do this because I had lack of calcium when I BF Ds2 and became VERY crancky and explosive because of it, and the girl diet makes me crancky enough as it it!

[swish]

Lol, indira, I was just thinking today that this diet is making me not a very nice person. Starvation makes me mean!!! It makes sense by boys get cranky and tetchy when they're hungry!!!!

[Mochagirl]

This is what I do, my calcium/magnesium is solubile, I take one spoon to get the normal daily amount (including the calcium I get through food) instead of 3 spoons I would take to get at IG swaying levels. I do this because I had lack of calcium when I BF Ds2 and became VERY crancky and explosive because of it, and the girl diet makes me crancky enough as it it!

Thanks, Indira - maybe that's what I'll do. I can just wait until the end of the day and since I track all my nurtrients anyway I'll just take as much calcium as I need to get to the RDA. I've never liked milk and have never gotten enough calcium, which is why my bones and teeth are in bad shape already!

[Mochagirl]

Lol, indira, I was just thinking today that this diet is making me not a very nice person. Starvation makes me mean!!! It makes sense by boys get cranky and tetchy when they're hungry!!!!

Yeah, me too. I'm cranky all the time...especially late morning and late afternoon, just when my kids are cranky too. I feel sorry for DH coming home from work to a house full of cranky people!

[zanacal]

I'm not so much cranky as tired and I ache, I just don't have any energy!

Another 3lb off for me this week - this makes 21.5lb in 6 weeks. Yay :D People have started noticing that I've lost weight now and asking me what I'm doing and I'm always very vague and say something like 'not eating much!' or 'not eating between meals'. Usually when I lose weight I do it very healthily!

I have a couple of hours at home by myself now as I took the day off work to watch DS1's sports day this morning - I had plans of clearing out the play room but I think I'll need a coffee before I can even get my bum off the sofa!

[swish]

Yay, zanacal, well done!!!!
I just had the most delicious frozen yogurt but it was so not girl friendly I might as well of had a chocolate bar!! It was Ben and jerry phish flavour which is chocolate flavour, it was sooooo good!!!

[zanacal]

Mmmm, yes I've had that before. The chocolate fudge flavour is my favourite :D

[Mochagirl]

Awesome work on the weight loss, zanacal!!!

I am sooooo craving chocolate lately, swish - I'm sure I'm going to give in soon.

[Mochagirl]

I'm going to try not to cheat as much today (though I think under the circumstances I did ok yesterday). My brother is here until after lunch, so I just have to find something girl-friendly and not too full of sodium to eat for lunch, and then I can have rice pasta for supper as usual. He was the ideal houseguest to have during this diet because he's vegetarian anyway, so it didn't seem weird to him for me to order all vegetarian dishes at the Indian restaurant last night. I tried to keep my portions low - I know I shouldn't have had that Naan, but I couldn't resist :happy:.

[Indira]

Good job zanacal! People notice my weight loss too, they worry that I´ve become anorexic :worry:
I really need to stay at this weight now, my BMI is 17,5-18. I did remain at weight for 2 weeks but today I lost again, I have been sick on sunday, throwing up.
DH says he will stop TTC if I don´t eat a bit of meat or fish every evening, so yesterday I had a piece of cod.
So I really need to ovulate!!! before I get in a TW times-have-gotten-better-mode. no sign of O yet, I made my ticker with a lot of wishfull thinking haha-

[Out of the Blue]

Hey all...just popping on to say I'll probably be gone for a week as we're getting unexpected guests today. :suprise: Wowzuhs....bad timing and more sneaking around w/my meals, etc. I know I'll be fine w/what I eat (although there will be temptations!) but I'm a bit stressed on what to feed everyone as they all eat meat and I have no clue how to make it since I've been a vegetarian all my adult life. I guess I'll figure it out...I'll try to post while I can.

BTW, yesterday went well! I was so busy that I wasn't able to eat my 1st meal until 1:30! I think I'll try to shoot for 11:00ish if I can b/c I think it'll make things go more smoothly instead of wanting to inhale everything in sight later on in the day. Mocha, was it you who posted that you ate rice and yogurt w/cumin & lemon juice? Genius!!! I had that yesterday and I felt like I was cheating b/c it was so yummy!!! I can't wait until my 1st meal today since that's at the top of my list. I'll be grilling portobellos and zucchini to go along w/that for lunch.

The reason I was trying to eat between 3-5 as my last meal was mostly for when I was still eating brekkie. I could usually have my last meal by 4:15 easily since after 4p.m. my day gets super-crazy and I don't have time to eat anyway. I was kind of doing the low BS thing in reverse of what you all are doing b/c that seemed to work well for me. I kind of panicked and wasn't sure if this was pink-friendly strategy or not so I started to keep my bs low in the a.m. instead of the afternoon/p.m.

Doula, I didn't get a chance to respond but I saw your post (HUNGRY!!!!) and I was comiserating right there with you. DH saw it & was cracking up b/c he knew I've been going through the same thing.

Sending you all lots and lots of luck and I hope at least one of you is preg before I come back in a week.

:cheer::cheerteam::cheer::cheerteam::cheer::cheert eam::cheer:

[Mochagirl]

OotB - I had house guests for a week leading up to my last attempt, so I can commiserate. At least because you're vegetarian already it won't look weird for you to be eating something different - I had to be super sneaky so they wouldn't notice. And yes, that was me that made that rice dish. It IS yummy, eh?

I'm going to be pretty much offline for several days while I'm at my cottage this weekend, and I don't know how I'll cope without you ladies! My Mom has an iPhone so I can borrow that once in a while, but that'll be it. :worry:

[Out of the Blue]

OMG...it's the "cottage weekend" this weekend??? I'll be sending you lots of good thoughts, Mocha!!! Go for it, girl! Get on the stick, lol!

[swish]

Lol, mocha, we're all going to be chuckling about what you're up to at the cottage, watch out for the bears!!!!!

[swish]

Hope it goes ok with your guests, ootb, think of lots of girl friendly sides that your guests can have meat as a side(pork in egg and breadcrumbs with spaghetti is a good one). Gl!!!

[swish]

Indira, I need to stay at my weight too but I still keep losing a little, I'm 7 lb 7 now which is tiny but I can't seem to maintain the weight, it comes off a tiny bit at a time!!!!!

[Indira]

Good luck at the cottage mocha and have fun! (outside the cottage lol!)

Swish I know about the weight that keeps falling off, I never thought that loosing weight can be so easy once you´re on a diet, as I never dieted. I really got used to it too, so I dont have cravings or get really hungry anymore

[zanacal]

Indira, I need to stay at my weight too but I still keep losing a little, I'm 7 lb 7 now which is tiny but I can't seem to maintain the weight, it comes off a tiny bit at a time!!!!!

You mean 7st 7lb? That really is tiny, you're a dot!

[tweedledeedum]

Good morning to all!

Ok, ever since I Oed, I have found it nearly impossible to stay on the diet. I have been cheating like crazy. I really need to get back on track. It is just so hard thinking maybe, just maybe, the end is in sight! 3dpo now.

I have been doing the high calcium. I just wanted to be as different from when i concieved my boys as possible and I suspect my calcium may have been low at those times.

Midmorning: glass skim milk
Midday: 2 slices low salt bread with a little diet pb, glass skim milk
Supper: half a thigh of bbq ckn, couple asparagus, beans, glass skim milk
Snacks: few cookies, 2 nibs, 2 squares of chocolate, 4 ww ritz crackers with little spinach dip

[DoulaMama]

You mean 7st 7lb? That really is tiny, you're a dot!

OMG! You weigh as much as one of my thighs! LOL! Way to go for the weight loss!!

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- Have a wonderful time away! LOL! I can't wait to hear the great stories....LOL! Hopefully you don't come back with any threesome tales.....you know, you, your DH and the local black bear :wink: Take Care and I'll be sending many EGG meets PINK SPERM thoughts for you~~~~~

AFM- The nasty side of my temperament has started to show.....lack of patience, grumpy, yelling.....I hope that this diet gets easier soon because my family is seriously going to hate me. I have minimal patience as it is....Anybody know of any books on taming a fiery disposition?? I don't think my red hair helps any either.... I really hope I get pregnant when I want to...Sorry for the rambling.....it's been a long day and it's only 9am here.

[Mochagirl]

LOL, everyone. I'm not leaving for the cottage until Friday, so you have to put up with me for a few more days before I go. I'm sure I'll be back now and then over the weekend anyway since I'll probably start freaking out about my attempt last minute as usual. I have quite a kit bag to bring: supplements, Rephresh, Sylk, girl-friendly food and snacks, etc. I'm hoping the increased time I'll be spending in the great outdoors might help my sway, but I'm a little worried that I'll get mosquito bites in unmentionable places! :suprise: I can't tell you how excited dh is to have secret, outdoor sex!:bigsmile:

[swish]

Mocha, Let's hope this is a successful month or dh will be wanting this every month!!!
I did mean 7 stone 7!!!!! I'm naturally small and was 8 stone 4 to begin with eating whatever I like but I really can't lose any more. Dh keeps telling me I looked better before which I know but I don't need reminding!!!! Will definately be changing up my diet next cycle but feel fearful of putting on too much and making by body feel times are good again, it's such an impossible juggling act!!!

[zanacal]

Ladies, I feel so lethargic today. I had a coffee earlier then attempted to tidy up some toys but I was too exhausted and ended up going to bed! I haven't taken a nap during the day in forever. Do you think it's just the crappy diet I'm eating with very little nutrition or perhaps not enough protein? The only supp I'm taking at the moment is Saw P. I managed to wake up enough to collect the boys from school and we've just finished dinner but I'm still struggling. I thought I'd feel better after a nice big bowl of pasta but I didn't so I had a sweet cup of tea - still no joy. Luckily the boys are tired too so we're just chilling :D

[twinkle]

ive only been on the diet for between 6-7 weeks so still early on but i can imagine how you feel, i was on the wii fit earlier and did one of the body tests and i scored really bad and wondered if it was a lack of sugar and variety of food that hasnt helped or just im rubbish at it ha ha

[zanacal]

This is my 7th week too twinkle! I eat lots of sugar though :D

[swish]

I have had LOTS of days like this, I'm sure it's the lack of protein, the odd 'normal' meal keeps me sane!

[swish]

I can't stop eating today!!!
No breakfast
Lunch cous cous with cucumber and green beans, actimel, frozen yogurt, strawberries
Dinner courgette risotto, frozen yogurt, ww ice cream
Can't stop eating the frozen yogurt, I must not buy it again!!!! It is NOT girl friendly!!!

[Indira]

I know why you can´t stop eating swish! :happy:
Don´t want to get your hopes up, but when are you going to test??

[swish]

I wish you were right, I just know af is on it's way, I've got all my usual signs. I think I'm 10 dpo now so I'll test on Sunday if no af!!!!!

[zanacal]

Indira, she's being incredibly restrained! When is AF due swish?

Here's my day:

Breakfast: Just coffee
Lunch: Wrap with cucumber and tomato, balsamic vinegar and feta cheese (this is my new current fav!), 2 caramel rice cakes, a peeled apple and 2 boiled sweets.
Dinner: GF Pasta with kids pasta sauce and parmesan. 2 custard cream biscuits.
Snack: 1 mini pitta bread with cucumber and pepper sticks and 1/4 tub sour cream and chive dip.

I wasn't going to have a snack today but I was hungry and tired ... I still came in at under 1500 cals, 38g protein and 950mg sodium.

[swish]

Af due on Sunday I think but still confused by when I ov. The last few cycles 2 ww has been more like 12 days. Do you use tesco wraps? What about feta, is it full fat? I like the sound of that lunch!!!

[zanacal]

I used a Tesco Healthy Living wrap this time - 180 cals, 5.2g protein, 200mg sodium. A Discovery corn tortilla is better at 119 cals, 3g protein and 180mg sodium. I think I bought Tesco organic feta cheese (full fat). I only have 20g which is 55 cals, 3.2g sodium and 267mg sodium. Just 10g of feta sprinkled on a salad makes it far more tasty! Fingers crossed for some good news this weekend then :D

[swish]

Yum, I'll be off to tesco tomorrow! Really don't think I am and I knew quite early with ds2 (later confirmed by no af and test), just don't feel same this time

[Mochagirl]

Lunch: Wrap with cucumber and tomato, balsamic vinegar and feta cheese (this is my new current fav!)

Mmmm - that sounds yummy! I'll have to give that one a try!

[Mochagirl]

swish - it's all so confusing because signs that af is coming are so similar to signs that you're pregnant. I'll keep crossing my fingers for you!

[Mochagirl]

My plan to have a strict diet day didn't work so well. We went to the farmer's market this morning and we ended up getting Moroccan food. I had 1/4 of a Mahajeb (a flat bread stuffed with spinach and feta - I usually eat a whole one for a meal, so I thought maybe 1/4 wouldn't be too awful), and I also had a few unsalted pita chips dipped in very garlicky hummus. I have no idea of the nutritional info of any of it, so I won't be able to keep careful tabs today after all. I think once you break from the diet once or twice it becomes way too easy to cheat...and soon I'm off to the cottage where it's going to be super hard to keep to the diet (though I'm going to try my best).

[Emmy2012]

I am trying hard to stick to my daily routine...Here it is

I get up at 5am do not eat till 11 or 12
Lunch: 2 slices of low cal/low salt bread with a dab of unsalted butter
Dinner: 1 cup of calcium pasta with a lil parm and ms. dash
Snack: air-popped popcorn with a dab of unsalted butter
My drinks are tons of cl and diet pepsi!

[Emmy2012]

oops...I am about to be bad....my boss just bought me a decaf skinny vanilla latte.....at least it is a small one......

[mydream]

HUNGRY!!!!!:tissue::tissue::tissue:
love this...ME TOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mydream]

I am dying without snacking...I am way under calories with just eating
decaf coffee and a nutrigrain bar 4 hours after I get up
a smal corn tortilla with hummus and zuchini and 2 rice cakes (no salt)
serving or 2 of pasta with ricotta cheese....
smart water or cl
maybe some strawberries/raspberries in between.

HELP!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Here's my day today:

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: 1/4 of Mahajeb (Moroccan flat bread stuffed with spinach and feta), a handful of unsalted pita chips dipped in gloriously garlicky hummus
Supper: 2 servings of rice pasta with 1/4 cup of low sodium tomato sauce and 20g of parmesan, Weight Watchers lemon cake, 2 Peek Freans Lifestyle Cookies
Snack (3rd meal): light vanilla ice cream, strawberries, raspberries

Calories: 1206
Protein: 33.4g
Sodium: 628.5mg

It turned out to be not too bad a day. I'm not positive on the nutritional makeup of the Moroccan food, but I found some info on a similar thing online that just didn't have the feta, so I added in the nutritional info for the teeny bit of feta that was in it. The only really bad thing I ate was that hummus, which was so garlicky I can still taste it 10 hours and 2 tooth brushings later.

[Mochagirl]

mydream - sorry you're having a rough time. I have trouble getting my calories up, but I've started adding lots of sweets to my day and I'm getting a bit higher. If I eliminate sweets, I end up with 800 calories a day, which I couldn't live on long term. I do snack in the evening a few hours after supper, but I've started to look at it as my 3rd meal (which is allowed on the diet) so I don't stress about it too much. I still have low blood sugar all night and morning, then all afternoon.

[mydream]

so we can add sweets in? what types are you adding in ?

[DoulaMama]

mydream - sorry you're having a rough time. I have trouble getting my calories up, but I've started adding lots of sweets to my day and I'm getting a bit higher. If I eliminate sweets, I end up with 800 calories a day, which I couldn't live on long term. I do snack in the evening a few hours after supper, but I've started to look at it as my 3rd meal (which is allowed on the diet) so I don't stress about it too much. I still have low blood sugar all night and morning, then all afternoon.

Mydream- I, too, have a third meal in the day. I try not to eat until at least 11am and then my next mini-meal is at 2pm and then dinner at 6pm. I have nothing to eat after this point, but I do have a tea in the evening(black tea with cream/sugar) and I find that it fills me up:) I've also had sweets here and there just for something to chew/suck on as it helps get me through the day. I think that after 3 weeks on this diet it won't be nearly as hard as it is right now for us. Our stomachs will be smaller, we'll be in the swing of things and on our way to getting pregnant.... hopefully with a girl!!!!

I just read your siggy and I'm sorry to read that HT didn't work for you:( I hope that either way(swaying or HT) you get your girl :HH: :luck:

[swish]

Oh ladies, I am feeling so rubbish today! My temp dropped sip knowvaf is on the way and I feel sooooo fed up! I'm grumpy and I have no patience. Right now I wondering if I can do this for another 5/6 weeks. This morning when o weighed myself I was another lb lighter and I just don't know how to increase the calories, plus I'm worried I'll sway boy by putting weight back on. So fed up!!!!!!!!!! Rant over....

[Mochagirl]

Oh swish - I was exactly where you are a week ago. You can do it - I promise. It's sooo hard to face another month (or more) of the diet, but once you get back into it, it's ok. Atomic assures me that weight loss will level out eventually, but in the meantime I'm allowing myself a few more treats and trying harder to find real, tasty food that fits in with the diet. I just couldn't face another month of nothing but rice cakes and pasta with parmesan. Take a night or two off and eat some of the foods you've missed the most - it'll make you feel better, I promise. If you need to, loosen your standards for the diet a bit. I've had garlic a couple of times and I'm not even feeling horribly guilty about it. Think about all the countries where they eat garlic non-stop, and all the girls they have there. I'm also going to change my attempt slightly so I don't make it too hard for those spermies to get in (way less Sylk, less Rephresh, etc.)

Weight loss sways hardest, I think, and you and I have both achieved as much as we can there. I'm sure that next cycle will be the lucky one for both of us! :HH:

[Mochagirl]

so we can add sweets in? what types are you adding in ?

As long as you avoid the big no-nos (chocolate, gelatin, etc.) and stay within the calorie guidelines I think just about anything goes. Personally, I always have tons of room for extra calories, so I eat a lot of full sugar sweets, but you could stick to sugarless stuff if you're worried about calories. I have cookies, Weight Watchers snack cakes, light ice cream, frozen yogurt, gelato, candy (Sour Patch kids, etc.) and lots of other ladies indulge in sweets too. When you talk to girl moms, you'll often find that they have quite a sweet tooth!

[zanacal]

Aww, swish, I'm gutted for you too. Damn that temping for letting you know what's coming! Is there any chance it's wrong? You can do it, I know you can x

Here's me today:

Breakfast: None, just coffee
Lunch: Jam sandwich, grapes, cheese & onion hula hoops, bakewell tart!
Snack: 3 caramel rice cakes
Dinner: KFC night! Regular fries and corn cobette.

[Indira]

swish, I´m sorry you´re feeling that way. I converted your weight and I´m just a little bit under that, I have the same problem trying to maintain it without slipping into good times boy territory.
Maybe we had our attempt yesterday (don´t know yet if I really ovulated) but I´m feeling very negative about it today, so I´m wondering now how on earth I´m going to eat low everything without loosing more weight for at least another month!
I have a small portion of chicken, fish or egg :worry: every evening now, otherwise DH will proclaim a BD strike. I have less milk and yoghurt during the day to keep protein within limits. I eat some more fruit and sweets and had a piece of strawberry pie today since I had relatives visiting. Really enjoyed that :happy:

[DoulaMama]

Didn't have time yesterday to post my day...so here it is:
Lost the sheet with my meals written on it but here's my totals- 1210Cals, 57Protein, 36Fat, 900Sod.

I went way over on Protein because I was seriously not feeling well yesterday afternoon so I opened a can of Salmon and had the whole damn thing...!!! LOL!

Today has been much better though.

So far:
Tea w/cream&sugar
Salad with 1oz chicken and 1oz shrimp, balsamic vinegar and tatziki.

I'm having a major craving for full fat yoghurt right now... I may indulge in a bit for my 2nd meal....we'll see :)
I couldn't help myself and stepped on the scale this am....I'm down 3 lbs...Holy shnikeys!

And Zanacal- I seriously want KFC now.....yummmmm:)

[swish]

Thanks ladies! Zani, I know, stupid temps, been confusing me all along, wish I hadn't done them at all! Thank you, mocha, it's comforting to know you felt that way but are now nearvto trying again. I've decided to have 2 normal meals a week, to help with weight and to help me feel cheerful!!! Indira, we'll have to think of things to eat together!!
Well done, doula, on the weight loss!!!! Today went like this with ALOT of tutti fruitie sweets!
No breakfast
Lunch cous cous with green beans and cucumber and feta cheese, yogurt, actimel, strawberries
Dinner mushroom risotto, frozen yogurt (used up the last of the choc frozen yogurt as I couldn't resist it in my freezer. Also gave some to ds1, he loved it!!)

[Mochagirl]

I think having 2 normal meals a week is a great idea. It's the general eating trends that make a difference anyway - eating a taboo food once in a while doesn't make a difference, I'm sure. What's most important is that you find a way to keep yourself happy so you can keep doing the diet.

[Indira]

mocha, I agree that that´s a great idea and this thought helps me too, thanks!

[zanacal]

Well done on the weight loss DM! We always get KFC after DS1's swimming class on a Wednesday night and to begin with I didn't have anything but the past couple of weeks I've found a way to have something without blowing the diet - KFC isn't particularly exciting without chicken but at least I don't feel left out when they're all sat around eating it!

How about drinking full fat coke/pepsi to add calories if you're losing too much weight? You have the added knowledge that it lowers pH :D

As for sweets, like mocha said, I avoid chocolate (although I have some white chocolate) and stick to the vegetarian options but alot of sweets/diet cakes etc. are very low on protein and sodium so they're a good way of adding calories without the other stuff.

[DoulaMama]

Swish- I had this long email all typed out and then the phone rang...and my computer timed out on me:( Anyway, I wanted to say I'm so sorry about your temps dropping:( I felt the same way last cycle when I first saw the big temp drop...but honestly after 4 days of this diet...I think I will be a sobbing mess if I don't get pregnant on our next cycle...which is why at this moment I think I'll be changing my sway to DTD through O. I just can't see myslef sticking to this for more than 2 months....I can myself sticking to a weight loss diet but it will have a whole lot more protein that this!! Anyway, Big hugs and good luck for your next cycle, hun! xoxox

[swish]

Thankyou, dm!! I did actually dtd through o so next cycle I'm not sure what I can do to increase my chances, less rephresh maybe? Or vitex and sp every other day? I don't know! But it has to work next time!

[swish]

Good idea about full fat pop, zani, I'm going to do that :)

[zanacal]

Isn't the probability of getting pregnant on any given cycle ridiculously low anyway? I really don't think that because you didn't get pregnant you necessarily need to change anything - unless you want to of course. I got pregnant on first attempt with DS1 and DS3 but with DS2 it was 4 months - which isn't a long time but felt like forever!!

[DoulaMama]

Thankyou, dm!! I did actually dtd through o so next cycle I'm not sure what I can do to increase my chances, less rephresh maybe? Or vitex and sp every other day? I don't know! But it has to work next time!

CRAP:( Sorry :gloomy: And Zan is right...it's not that easy to fall pregnant...it's just that I for one have never really tried....so I know I will be a complete mess if this takes 6mos or something....Oh well.
Next cycle has to work!!! And yes I would say less Rephresh...maybe just 3 days before O...maybe have DH release closer to cervix, no jump and dump, DTD through O again....

[Mochagirl]

Here's today for me:

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: rice cake with low fat peanut butter, 2 Peek Freans Lifestyle cookies, Activia non-fat yogurt
Supper: veggie burger on low sodium bun (with low sodium ketchup and a bit of mustard), couscous with balsamic vinegar, cucumber and feta, 4 Peek Freans Lifestyle cookies:oops:
Snack/3rd Meal: strawberries with a bit of whipped cream, Mike & Ike candies

Calories: 1361
Protein: 35.2g
Sodium: 946mg

[swish]

Zani and dm, I know it isn't likely but that's depressing!!!!! It was first time after periods tpreturned with ds1 and first attempt with ds2 so although I didn't think it would happen like this (because ttc), a but of me thought it would!!! Never mind, onwards and upwards!!!

[Mochagirl]

When I decided to do this diet, it was under the assumption that I'd only be TTC for one month, two tops. I managed to get through my first month of BFN ok, but I know I'll completely lose it if we don't get our BFP this month.

[swish]

Me too, mocha, I cannot keep doing this, dh wants me to give up already!!! I think if I don't get pregnant the next time I'll stop vitex as several people on ig seemed to get pregnant after stopping vitex and it still had the sway affect for them

[Mochagirl]

Really? Maybe I should stop Vitex.... Do you think it would make a difference for this cycle if I stop Vitex now (I'm due to O in about a week). I really, really, REALLY want this to be my month - all my friends and family are starting to worry about me after this dramatic weight loss, and dh is losing patience with all my diet quirks too.

[swish]

I don't know, it depends if you'd regret doing that if you had a DS and not a dd, I just know I'd do it after 2 failed attempts!! I do know what you mean though as everyone is suddenly noticing I've lost so much weight and it's really hard to keep lying, I know my sister and mum are quite worried as to why I've lost so much and I really can't afford to lose any more. I'm making a real effort to eat enough calories and maintain my weight. Af due on sat/ sun, I'll feel better when it's here, waiting for the inevitable is miserable!!!

[zanacal]

I believe the issue with Vitex is that it can act as a birth control if taken constantly (not AF-O) over a long period of time and that's why some have got pregnant the month after they stop Vitex. You should be ok if you're only taking it AF-O or maybe in your case swish, you may decide to take it for only the first 2 weeks of your cycle and then stop!

[Indira]

swish and mocha, I can sooo relate to all the things you´re saying. I also got pregnant with the boys on 1st attempt and hope to do so now aswell, knowing that´s not very likely though. I will be fortunate enough of I O at all this cycle.
I decided I must handle a couple of months with people thinking I´m anorexic, I want other people´s opinion to be less important to me than dreaming pink, but I also start doubting if I´m not risking my health to much and if I would ever fall pregnant being this thin. I´m giving myself this and the next cycle and see from there what to do. I need to stay at this weight. I already gave up a on reducing sperm count for this month to enhance changes of getting pregnant, with ovulation being this impredictable our cut-off has gone and DH can´t do frequent-so I guess he hasn´t got high testosteron, at least we have that going for us :worry: .

[Mochagirl]

Indira - I think if (heaven forbid) I don't get pregnant this cycle, we'll stop doing frequent release too. I still think diet is the most important sway factor, so I will drop other things before I drop that, though the thought of doing this diet longer than another month at most makes me want to cry. I need to remember that I'm 36 turning 37 in a few months, so my fertility is already may be a bit reduced from what it has been in the past. To me swaying isn't worth it if it takes a year to get pregnant - I would rather leave it up to fate and hope for the 50/50 chance that others seem to have when it comes to having a girl. I'm not sure what my maximum time spent swaying will be, but I doubt it would be more that one or two more cycles, and even that's stretching it.

[swish]

Agh!!! So many decisions!!! I think i will try vitex for just 2 weeks as this seems like a better idea, looking back no wonder I didn't get pregnant!!!

[zanacal]

Try not to look back too much swish - you certainly had plenty of sex and didn't get hung up on cut-offs or O+12s :D I think it was just bad luck!

Here's me today:
Meal 1: 2 toasted mini pittas with cucumber and tomato, balsamic and feta cheese (sooo good!). Strawberries and cheese and onions crisps (not together!).
Meal 2: Spaghetti with parmesan cheese sauce and peas. 2 boiled sweets.
Meal 3: Tutti fruttis!

I also had a Costa light coffee (made with skimmed milk and sugar free vanilla syrup) - incredibly sweet and feels like a treat!

[swish]

Lol about the meal of tutti fruities!!! I had your idea of a cucumber and feta wrap today, it was delicious!!, I also discovered goats cheese is a pretty good option for the diet

[mydream]

I had your idea of a cucumber and feta wrap today, it was delicious!!, I also discovered goats cheese is a pretty good option for the diet

had this today and yesterday--- so yummy!

[zanacal]

Lol, I'm really looking forward to that 'meal' once these monsters are in bed!!

I was actually looking to buy goat's cheese when I bought the feta! I think I'll try something with goat's cheese at the weekend - any ideas? I'm not even sure I like it!

[Mochagirl]

I've been eating a lot of goat cheese lately too - a little goes a long way taste-wise. Try it on a toasted sandwich with some roasted veggies - yummy!

I don't know what to do about Vitex either! Those of you who are taking it, how much are you taking? I've been taking 2 400mg pills a day - I'm wondering if I should just take 1? I did a couple quick Google searches and discovered that lots of women take Vitex to BOOST fertility, and they take it all month except for when they have af (they even continue it until they're 10 weeks pregnant, which I wouldn't do).

[swish]

Ok, I've really upped my calories today...
No breakfast
Lunch...it's a long list...2 wraps with feta, cucumber and balsamic - I dry fried the wrap so the cheese melted - lovely!!! Yogurt, actimel, tutti fruities!!!! Ww carrot cake
Dinner gf pasta with roasted butternut squash, Parmesan and lemon. A little frozen yogurt
I am full!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[zanacal]

Well done swish - I'm proud of you!

mochagirl - have you read the Vitex thread? There's quite a lot of information on there. Vitex does boost fertility in that it can bring back regular cycles when you don't have them, for example when breastfeeding. I think it's long-term use that can make it act as a contraceptive and taking when pregnant is a definite no! I take 1000mg per day. The first month O was delayed by 5 days but the next month I combined it with Saw P and O was a day early. I'm happy to have messed up cycles personally - I know where average, predictable cycles get me :D

[Mochagirl]

I did read the Vitex thread way back when I first joined this site, but I should go back and read it again. Thanks, zanacal!

[swish]

Quick question...is the day temp rises after ov 1 dpo, I know this sounds silly, I just don't want to expect af on the wrong day!

[zanacal]

I guess it must be if you take your temp first thing in the morning and the temp indicates that you've already ovulated. Are you still expecting Sunday?

[DoulaMama]

Hi Girls...

I've been very good the past few days but just haven't gotten around to posting my daily intakes...
The calorie limit is quite easy for me to follow- I've been under 1300 each day, same with fats- not that much. Sodium is usually under 900 each day, sometimes in the 700's :) Protein.....well, that's another story :( 2 days ago it was 50, yesterday it was 57!!! OMG:( I find it so hard to take in so little protein:( Today hasn't been too bad but I have one meal left to eat and I'm already at 37. I think I'm going to have to do this slowly. Start with 50 and under and then gradually get lower and lower as weeks go on. I'm able to not snack at all now which is great:) And I found some yummy low fat frozen yoghurt popsicles:)

As for the vitex.....I brought my cycles back with 240mg of vitex once a day. Maybe I should take more? I've only taken it for 14 days on, 14 days off since I started it 3 months ago. My cycles were wacky to begin with so I just took it from AF for 14 days and then didn't start again until af showed. I'm still nursing though....and by nursing I mean my kid is latched on for half the day...LOL! Oh well....

And Swish- yes it's the day after the temp rise that you would call 1dpo. The lower temp the day before is O day:)

Fingers crossed for you Hun!!! xo

[DoulaMama]

My hubby just texted me(he's away on business about 3 hours away from us right now) and told me he's going for sushi with his brother. Can you believe that I'm seriously in tears over this! I LOVE sushi and to combine the fact that he gets 5 days on his own, gets to sleep ALL night and eat whatever the hell he feels like other than no red meat or salting his food).....it's really pissing me off. And to tell me!!! What a jerk! I'm thinking that September can't come soon enough.

[Mochagirl]

Sorry DM - I hate that my DH eats pretty much whatever he wants while I can't eat any of my favourite foods. He jas no sympathy, either, because he doesn't believe in any of this swaying stuff.

Here's my day:

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: rice cake with low fat peanut butter, about 10 of ds's fries (which I was delighted to notice had very little salt on them - though for diet purposes I had to assume they had an average amount of salt), huge full fat vanilla ice cream cone (we were picnicking at the park, and I couldn't resist)
Supper: 3 half bagels with low sodium tomato sauce, sliced mushrooms and a bit of shredded low fat mozzarella. This was quite filling and felt like a big cheat, Peek Freans Lifestyle cookies
Snack/3rd meal: strawberries, raspberries, Pop Tart (I ate the Pop Tart before remembering I had those fries today - it brought me right up to my sodium maximum)

Calories: 1389
Protein: 38.7g
Sodium: 1085mg

So, I'm off to the cottage first thing tomorrow morning. AF is finally over, so we'll probably dtd tonight then whenever we get an opportunity while we're away :bigsmile: Should we use a condom until we get closer to O? Last month we dtd unprotected right from the end of af until the day before O, and I'm thinking I should do something like that again, especially since some days we might not be able to dtd (though I'll make sure dh still releases). Last minute advice?

I will be checking in here while I'm away, but not as often as normal. I'll be back on Tuesday evening, and hopefully O will almost be here by then. Wish me luck!

[swish]

Mocha, I would definitely do unprotected, more chances! Dm, I'm with you on dh thing, it makes me so jelous!! Zani, yes Sunday would be af day going by temp rise but temp rise was very gradual so I'm not sure how that works. I'll test on sun.....

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow you guys! I can't keep up with this thread so if you have any q's please start a separate thread or PM me!!!

Keep up the GREAT work!!!

[zanacal]

Wow you guys! I can't keep up with this thread so if you have any q's please start a separate thread or PM me!!!

Keep up the GREAT work!!!

Oh yes, it's all happening here :D

Today I had/will have:

Lunch: ww bread with low fat cheese slice, cheese & onion discos (crisps), bakewell tart
Dinner: rice with tomatoes, mushrooms & parmesan (would have been nice if I hadn't been heavy handed with the sweetener I added - blech!). A boiled sweet.
Snack: 2 caramel rice cakes.

I've got into the habit of having a boiled sweet or two after a meal and I quite like this - UK gals, Fox's Glacier fruits have 20 cals and not a lot else in them and are vegetarian (just in case you ever get bored of tutti fruttis!). I suspect Skittles are ok too ...

[swish]

Zani, I can't buy tutti fruities anymore as I can't resist them and eat the lot!! I had a nasty tummy bug in the night last night so have just eaten what I can stomach today
No breakfast
Lunch toast and jam, chocolate biscuit
Dinner pizza ( m and s base, tomato, low fat moz)

[zanacal]

Sorry you're poorly swish x

[swish]

Thanks, it was inevitable as boys had it earlier in week:(

[zanacal]

Shame you're not about to ovulate!

[swish]

I know, that did cross my mind!!!! We're definately going a bit crazy that that's one of our first thoughts! I don't think I'd be too appealing to dh today!

[zanacal]

Yes, there is that ... yuck! Definitely crazy :D

[Mochagirl]

Hi ladies! Dh and I managed day 1 of dtd with no bear attacks (though the mosquitos were pretty ferocious. :bigsmile:We're going to have to come up with a better solution because it wasn't very pleasant and there's no shelter anywhere so we were scared of being caught. I may just ask him to release tomorrow so I can take a day off.

We were traveling all day, but I tried my best to stick to the diet.

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch half bagel with light cream cheese, grapes, kid's size ice cream cone
Supper: veggie burger, broccoli, peek freans lifestyle cookies, gelato, strawberries

[zanacal]

Well done mocha - doesn't sound very romantic though :D A day off sounds good!

[Mochagirl]

I forgot to mention that though there were no bears, there was a fox nearby we passed on our way back to the cottage.

I'm hoping I'll O late since I don't know how many attempts I'll get in while we're here....

[DoulaMama]

Mocha- I really hope that this is your month, Hun! Have a great time!
Swish- I'm really sorry about the bfn:( Keep your head up- you can do this Mama!

Afm- I've been doing very well. I'm down 6 lbs now. Yesterday was a bit of a disaster(1500 cals and 60 protein) but I was also unexpectedly out and about. I'm coming down with my kids cold so that kinda sucks but hey- it'll help with the diet and hunger at least! I've also been really down in the dumps emotionally. I had a vivid dream about #4 being a boy and it really hit me hard. I thought about it a lot for the past few days...wondering about HT in Mexico, searching my heart and trying to figure out WHY I want a girl. Its not for the pink or the wedding, or the grand kids- all of which might not happen. It's the potential relationship, the closeness that I have with my mom. But what if I don't get that? What if I put all of my eggs into one basket and have huge expectations in regards to my girl? If I go HT, and it works....what if it's not everything I hoped it would be? Will I regret it all and look back and wonder what it would have been like to just let nature take it's course? I have the money to do 2 cycles in Mexico....but thats my school savings for Midwifery school. What if i dont get pregnant? And at the end of a HT pregnancy will i feel the same way towards a child that a Dr picked for me instead of knowing that my baby was conceived with just luck and chance?

I've been in tears most of the day:( I really think that I'm going to get another boy- and I know it shouldn't matter. I know that I need to try to have the kind of relationship with my boys that I have with my mom. Gender shouldn't matter. But for some reason it REALLY does. I can list off all the reasons it doesn't matter and list all the reasons it does but in the end, having a girl seems to be something I can't even explain- I feel I need her in my life. I'm so scared that I'm going to have a boy and then I'll spend the next year obsessing and wondering if I can convince my hubby to go ONE MORE TIME all the while I miss my kids childhood because all I can think about is my girl. And then the only way I would go for a fifth is HT. And then would I regret not doing HT for #4?My mind is so heavy right now. I'm lost.
Sorry for all this....I don't have many people to talk to and it's just so overwhelming sometimes. Take care:)

[zanacal]

Oh DM, I'm so sorry you're so down. I don't have any answers I'm afraid but I completely understand everything you've said. I flirted with the idea of HT for around 1/2 an hour - until I realised that I wouldn't necessarily get pregnant and have a baby from it! There's absolutely no way we could condone paying that sort of money for something which would be so difficult logistically and would possibly not end up with a baby anyway! In my heart I'm expecting that 4th baby boy and whilst I long for that baby girl (and wouldn't be going through all this otherwise) I do feel I could 'get over it' and accept my all boy family knowing that we did our best but I know and understand that it's not so easy for everyone to accept (and who's to actually know how any of us will feel unless we're in that position). Anyway, I haven't helped you at all and have ranted on about me - so sorry, just hugs xxx Well done on the weight loss btw, that's fantastic :D :D :D

[zanacal]

Here's my food for the day - mummy gets some special treats on Saturday!

Lunch: cucumber, tomato and feta with balsamic in 2 mini pittas, cheese and onion crisps, 1 boiled sweet
Dinner: Waitrose roasted vegetable ravioli topped with 1/2 tin tomatoes and parmesan. 1 doughnut!
Snack: Not sure, maybe some tutti fruttis as I have plenty of calories and no protein/sodium allowance left!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry, DM...we've all been there. Dh is morally opposed to ht, and we could never afford it anyway, so that was never an option for me. This is our last baby no matter what, so I'm constantly trying to mentally prepare myself if it ends up being a boy. I just want to know I tried my hardest so I won't have any regrets.

[swish]

Mocha, well done!! Glad the bears didn't get you!:bigsmile: you are definately working hard to earn your girl!!!
zani, what are the nutritional contents for that pasta, I love filled pasta!! I hadn't even considered I could have that
Dm, I'm so sorry you're feeling so bad, big hugs to you! Firstly, your children are what you make them and I whole heartedly believe you can have the same close relationship with a son, I know many grown men that do have that relationship with their mums. Like you say nothing is guaranteed and you just can't predict what yours or your children's futures will hold. I think you have to be 100 % happy with a 4 th boy, as we all know it's quite likely. If you think there's a chance you might go for ht if you don't get a girl this time, it is worth serious consideration now. Maybe it would help to talk to some of the ht girls as I know quite a few swayed and then ended up going for ht anyway. Lots of love to you, xx
Today's food....
No breakfast
Lunch carrot and coriander soup with a little bit of bread and a bite of carrot cake ( we were out and this was the best I could do- probably bit high in sodium!) frozen yogurt
Dinner courgette lasagne, this was a bit of work but was a real meal - lovely!! Maybe a bit high in calories but I need them!! Ww carrot cake, strawberries and meringue

[Mochagirl]

I'm really struggling to keep to the diet. Everyone's in vacation mode so there are treats everywhere. I had a really small lunch because we're having pizza for dinner. I'm sure I'll be high in sodium today....

[zanacal]

The courgette lasagne sounds great too swish - how did you make it? I don't think the ravioli was ideal because it was made with egg pasta and there was probably garlic/olives/onion in it but it would only have been in tiny quantities and I rarely have any eggs. In half pack there was 233 cals, 10g protein, 200mg sodium so not bad at all. I used 1/2 tin napoli tinned tomatoes on top and they only have 44 cals, 2.2g protein and a trace of sodium.

[Mochagirl]

I was a bad girl today...

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: half bagel with light cream cheese, strawberries
Supper: 5 (!!) small square slices of cheese pizza, one mini powdered sugar doughnut

I'm sure I was way over for sodium today and I 'm not proud of myself for eating 5 pieces, even if they were small. Bad timing too because I'm due to O in the next few days.

Dh and I didn't manage to dtd today. It's just too hard in a 3 bdrm cottage with 11 people sleeping in it. I'm starting to panic that we won't get a good attempt in this month :(

[swish]

Don't stress, mocha! Just do the best you can, as long as dh releases every day you're still in for a good chance. I wouldn't worry too much about the sodium, it's the overall picture that counts. Zani, I'm going to go to wit rose and get that pasta, I cN't believe how low in sodium it is. I made the lasagne by layering griddled courgette slices, homemade tomato sauce, lasagne sheet, tiny bit of White sauce made with skimmed milk, low fat moz and a tiny bit if Parmesan. It was a bit of work but you could make a few and freeze them.

[zanacal]

It sounds yum swish - I quite like being a bit more adventurous at the weekend (there you go, typical boy mum :D). On Sundays I always make a roast dinner and that's difficult - but I've discovered that Aunt Bessies midweek roast potatoes aren't too bad at all and I look for the best vege something-or-other to eat with them. I have a butternut squash pie I think today! I usually spend hours cooking it all from scratch but there's no way I'm doing all that and then not eating any! Sorry AF arrived btw.

mocha - don't worry, that doesn't sound that naughty at all. When you see it all written down you can see you really didn't eat *that* much today. I think you're making the best of a difficult job. When are you due to O again?

How are you today DM?

[zanacal]

PS - hubby and kids are in the kitchen eating pains au chocolats for breakfast and they smell amazing! I did by myself an apricot croissant but of course I won't be eating it at breakfast time so that's the only thing keeping me away :D

[Mochagirl]

PS - hubby and kids are in the kitchen eating pains au chocolats for breakfast and they smell amazing! I did by myself an apricot croissant but of course I won't be eating it at breakfast time so that's the only thing keeping me away :D

Pain au chocolat! That's one of my favourite things...I might just murder dh if he ate one in front of me!

I'm due to O on tues if it's cd12 like usual, or Thurs if I O on Cd 14 like last month. We're driving home tues. We're managing to release every day, but just 1 dtd so far.

[zanacal]

It's all going to plan then mocha! If it gets messed up somehow you could always just go twice on the day you get home and use the second batch to get you that baby girl :D

My fat has probably been a little high today but here's my Sunday:

Lunch: 1/2 vegetarian butternut squash pie, roast potatoes & green beans. Summer fruit crumble (same as last week!) and ice-cream.
Dinner: Cheese topped white bread roll filled with extra light soft cheese, cup of grapes and packet of toddler carrot crisps - then 2 boiled sweets :D
Supper: Viennese whirl and glass of skimmed milk

I really wanted to eat a couple hundred extra calories today as I've been a steady 1200 most days this week and I need to do that zig-zagging thing to get the better weight losses.

[swish]

Hi! I decided to have my one blow out meal today as af came :(
No breakfast
Lunch prezzo pizza!!! Yum!!! I did opt for the light option of flatbread pizza with spinach and mushroom and side salad (a mum with 2 girls on the table next to us ordered the same thing which id make me laugh, I obviously chose the right meal even for a blow out lunch!!! See I'm thinking like a girl mum now!!) she didn't have any of her children's garlic bread or tomato pizza like me but hey! White chocolate jazzies
I plan in having a cucumber wrap later and probably some strawberries.
Back to serious dieting business tomorrow but really need watch my calories as I'm done to 7 st 6 after being I'll, I really don't know hen I was last this weight, probably when I was 14!! So give me a virtual kick if my calories look too low!!!

[zanacal]

Will do swish! Glad you enjoyed it, doesn't sound too much of a blowout anyway!

[swish]

It's the salt that's the problem, eating out would be ok if you didn't have to worry about hidden salt.

[zanacal]

I think that's meant to be the least important aspect isn't it - and possible that in the Oxford Study girl mums ate less salt just because they ate less overall. IKWYM though, luckily I eat out very rarely these days!

It's DH's birthday in a couple of weeks and he wants an Indian take-away in the evening, not sure what I'll order yet.

[swish]

Indian is tricky because they load it with salt but I guess if you eat nothing with salt for the rest of the day, you could order anything vegetarian, sometimes you can get vegetable sheesh kebab, thatis dry so probably good for low everything diet. I'm going to be jelous of you that day!!

[zanacal]

Hmm, and garlic and chilli too! I'll have to get hold of the menu and think about it days (or weeks!) in advance lol!

[happyheart]

Hello everyone!! :) Wow! I am loving this thread! (thank you zanacal!!) I am going to take a look to see what you all are eating!! :) I having been living off of mostly Matzo, white rice, green beans, lettuce, white grapes (when I can find them), some strawberry's, cucumbers, and a little bit of plain chicken (once a day), egg beaters (once a week) and low-sugar strawberry jam. Oh and I got some of those miracle noodles. They are definitely different and I really don't care for them. I am struggling on this diet and am excited to see what others are eating!! :) I would like to stick to the low-everything diet.

[zanacal]

Hi happyheart, glad you found us :D

I'm sure the thread will give you some ideas on how to make the diet more bearable whilst still sticking to the low-everything limits on cals/protein/sodium :D

[happyheart]

Thank you so much zanacal!!! :) :) I feel bad about the cheats that I have done due to the struggling and am excited about trying some better choices while still sticking to the diet. :) Yay! :)

[Mochagirl]

Hey ladies - I'm still in vacation mode here at the cottage, so not the best day meal-wise.

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: 2 slices weight watchers bread with a tiny bit of low fat peanut butter, 2 Sugar free cookies, diet pepsi
Supper: veggie burger with fresh tomato and mustard, salad, 2 sugar free cookies, wine

I had to be very sneaky with the veggie burger...my brother was grilling a meatfest on the BBQ, so I handed him a veggie burger to cook and said it was for ds3 because he doesn't like regular burgers. I then switched plates without anyone noticing and ate it myself.

Dh and I still haven't found anywhere private to dtd, but opks are still very negative and we leave in 2 days.

[Out of the Blue]

Hi, all...Hope you're doing well, especially Mocha at the cottage!!! House guests are gone so I'm off catch up on this thread!

[purplepoet20]

I have been good all weekend... eating less of everything. I even went to the farmers market and got some fresh veggies to put on dinner last night. Everyone had seconds except me but I really wanted to.

Since Feb/Mar I have lost a total of 35lbs and I am so happy because my pants don't fit anymore. I would love to loose about 10 more but I am not pushing it since I will be gaining weight again soon, I hope.

[swish]

Hi all, welcome happyheart! More calories fir me again today, I think I'm at th top of protein limit but hopefully not over
No breakfast
Lunch lettuce and cucumber salad with a tiny bit of goat's cheese and a homemade roll, yogurt, strawberries with meringue
Snack some of DS 2 biscuit
Dinner salad with spinach, mushroom and ricotta canelonni, strawberries
A few Bertie bassie sweets during the day. Are liquorice really bad???

[zanacal]

I've no idea on licorice swish but everything else looks great!

Me today:
Lunch: Rest of yesterday's butternut squash pie cold, grapes, toddlers crisps, boiled sweet.
Dinner: Rest of Saturday's ravioli (leftover day!) with mushrooms, tomatoes and parmesan. Viennese whirl and boiled sweet (again!).
Snack: toast and jam.

[zanacal]

Weigh in day tomorrow - 7 weeks have passed quite quickly really!

Where is everybody else, are you still playing?!!

[Out of the Blue]

Weigh in day tomorrow - 7 weeks have passed quite quickly really!

Where is everybody else, are you still playing?!!

I'm here!!! Just a busy day. Hope you have a great weigh-in! You're doing AWESOME!!!

No Brekkie – Just coffee w/Rice Milk
Meal 1:
- Zucchini, Basmati & Cumin Yogurt
- Green Bean Chips
- Carrot Chips
- Girl Sway Fiber Drink
Meal 2:
- Romaine/Iceberg lettuce & balsamic w/Pecorino-Romano ,
- Yogurt & Strawberries
- Fiber Supps
- Lots of Chewy Sweet Tarts

YAY! Another boring food day! Really hoping I get preggers this time around b/c I'm not looking forward to doing much more of this!

[Mochagirl]

I'm still here too - just still at the cottage and reliant on my mom's iPhone. I did a bit better today, but still finding it hard not to snack when the cottage is full of junk food.

Breakfast: coffee (I was up at 5:30 but managed to wait till 11:30 to eat)
Lunch: plain rice, non-fat yogurt, mini lemon cupcake
Snack: I gave in around 3:30 and had 4(!) sugar free cookies. I knew we'd be eating a late supper (7pm) and thought I might gnaw off a limb if I tried to wait till then.
Supper: I ate what everyone else was eating - penne arrabiata. Not too high in sodium since my brother made it from scratch. I must have eaten 3 portions, though.
Snack: grapes

We'll be driving all day tomorrow and eating lunch in a restaurant, so it may be yet another not so great day. The good news is I'm not stressing too much about these digressions.

[desperate_for_boy]

breakfast lunch dinner!:happy:

[Indira]

Hi girls, I decided to join you so I check if I eat enough :happy: I need to not loose anymore!
Yesterday I had:

breakfast: decaf tea
10 am latte
lunch: iceberg lettuce mushroom salad with sodiumfree dressing, 2 servings of GF pasta with seed oil and brown sugar, activia yoghurt, decaf coffee
dinner: small piece of white fish baked in butter, 100 gr. rice with leeks and courgette, fatfree vanille yoghurt and a piece of pie.


The good news is I'm not stressing too much about these digressions. :agree::agree::agree: Enjoy!

[jane]

hi all, i dont belong on this thread but just wanted to say well done for eating the way you are! its torturous isnt it! you seem to be eating very boring and basic and not much at all, and im sick of eating full stop:mad: i hope your hard work is rewarding in the end....sending all my pink dust:wave:

[Out of the Blue]

Awww...Thanks, jane! We'll definitely take all the Pink Dust you can give us and we're sending you our Blue Dust ten-fold!!! Are you eating several meals a day??? I'm so jealous, lol!

desperate_for_boy, are you only eating 3 meals a day? I say eat 4 b/c you can (and us pink swayers sure can't)! Lots of Blue Dust coming at you too!

[Out of the Blue]

Okay, girl swayers...I need to rant for a quick second as I'm having a tough time right now...:sad: I've been in tears the past day. I've been really worried that my pregnancy will be like the others which was terrible and resulted in 15 - 20lbs weightloss in the first 16 wks. I don't have any weight to lose AT ALL this time around and not a lot of back-up nutrients in my body now either. If I don't get preg this next time, I'll really have to evaluate my sway b/c I want to ensure I've got a healthy kiddo. If I didn't have such bad pregnancies in the past, I wouldn't be worried at all. I know every pregnancy is different but my OB is ready and waiting w/my Zofran drip...


I'm soooo hoping next month is it for all of us shooting for Aug! I'm going to BD through O, maybe not have him so shallow a few times and use less RePhresh/Sylk. Rant over...Sending you all lots of :luck: and :HH:

[happyheart]

Hello everyone :)

I did pretty well yesterday. :)
No breakfast
Lunch ~ no salt Matzo and strawberry jam, skinless cumcumber and apples.
Snack ~ more matzo and jam... good thing I like that! ;)
Dinner ~ Chicken, white rice and green beans

I tried Crystal light for the first time! I liked it! I have been cautious about drinking it because I am nursing. However we are now just twice a day.

So far today ~
A small glass of CL at its 11:30am... I am soooo hungry!

Out of the Blue ~ I wanted to send you (((HUGS)))!! I am feeling very similar to you. I have lost 5 pounds so far putting me at 110. I am not sure I can go another cycle if I do not conceive in August. I am going to be using refresh and bd'ing when I get my "peak" signal making my cut off close. I think that if I didn't conceive that my sway would not be as good as it is now.

Have a GREAT day everyone!!!

[swish]

Thank you, Jane! You can have my blue dust too!
Hi indira! Where do you get sodium free dressing from? Thanks!
Today so far, been a bit off the rails...
No breakfast
10 am some of ds2's blueberry muffin(just a tiny bit!)
lunch mum's homemade lentil curry and rice - I had no idea how high in protein lentils are, never mind!!! Also lots of chilli, spices and garlic. Yogurt (needed this as curry so hot!!!) strawberries
Plan to have a low protein dinner, probably risotto with courgette
Ootb, big hugs to you!! I really feel for you, I have felt terrible since knowing I have to do another 5 weeks of this. I think all you can do is make sure you don't lose any more weight and try to maximise your chances of pregnancy whilst staying within the girl rules!!! I'm really keeping my fx for you, xxxxxx

[zanacal]

Glad to see so many of you checking in :D

mocha - your diet looks amazing considering you're on holiday, I always pig out on holiday!

Good going Indira, OoTB and happyheart :D

Jane - thank you, you've come to the right place for blue dust. We have tonnes of it :D :D :D

Wow, whadda day! First my boss was made redundant and he phoned to tell us before the official announcement so we spent most of the day speculating what that would mean to us - luckily it doesn't actually mean anything to me except a new boss. Then I left work and collected the youngest 2 boys from their childminder and drove away to collect my eldest from school only to discover I had a completely flat tyre - no idea how that happened in the 5 minutes I was gone! There was lots of waiting around while it got fixed so I ended up taking the 3 boys to Costa for dinner! I've gone a little over on salt for the day but not at all bad considering and it was so tasty :D

Here's my day's food:

Lunch: 2 ww bread, mature cheddar cheese and cucumber. Jam tart. 2 boiled sweets
Dinner: Mozzarella and tomato panini, vegetable chips.
Snack: Tutti Fruttis.

Btw swish and anybody else in the UK - it seems like Waitrose have far less salt in their products! First the filled ravioli and then their cheddar cheese, which wasn't too bad at all :D

[zanacal]

Woops, forgot to say, I lost 3.5lb this weeks so that makes 25lb in total now :D

[purplepoet20]

What my days will look like until O, around July 30th!

7 & 9am - 2 cups of coffee w/aspartame and coffeemate
11 am - Aspartame oatmeal
11 to 5 pm - 1/2 gallon of crystal light and 2 diet sodas, keeps me from snacking :sigh:
6pm - plain noodles with veggies w/ some type of hot pepper spice

I have more weight to loose and not much time to do it... can't go for walks lately the thunder storms have started and I have an extreme fear of being hit by lightning again. So I have been doing 4 30min workouts with video's, and only 15 more lbs to loose.

No meat until I O, getting protein from none meat source... 4-6oz of meat after O... and praying for a BFP around Aug 10-15th and a big fat juice steak to make announcement to hubby!

[purplepoet20]

Woops, forgot to say, I lost 3.5lb this weeks so that makes 25lb in total now :D

I am finding it so exciting to loose weight... I just can't wait to eat what I really want.

[happyheart]

Hello everyone :) :)

You all are doing well on this diet!! :) How motivating!! :)

zancal ~ way to go on the weight loss!! :)

purplepoet20 ~ you got hit my lightning?!! Yikes!!! LOL about your celebration dinner!! I have the whole week planned out for yummy meals when I get a BFP!! :) I can't wait to eat the foods that I miss!! :)

swish ~ I am done to 110 lbs... do you know what the weight is suppose to be that I will not hurt my chances of becoming pregnant?

:)

[swish]

Hi everyone!
Happyheart, I think it's to do with bmi, maybe start a thread and someone will probably know, I'd love o know the answer too although I suspect it's different for each individual
Zani, what a day!!!!! I think you hav done very well not to have had a huge bar of chocolate!!!! Pleased your job is ok and great weight loss!!!!!
I'm going to get to waitrose when I can, food bill's already up with this swaying, why not send it up a bit more!!!

[Indira]

I think today I didn´t risk to get not enough calories :worry: couldn´t stop eating at dinner. I had
decaf skimmed latte at 10.30
iceberg lettuce salad and GF pasta with oil and sirup for lunch, one kiwi, activia yoghurt
for dinner leeks and courgette rice, half a slice of Gouda cheese (was soo tastfull and salty), fat free yoghurt, 4 rice cakes with apple sirup and a piece of pie :bigsmile:

That´s 1340 cal, 35 g protein, 25 g fat without the pie, it´s home made and I´m too lazy to calculate all the ingredients.

Swish the dressing is a herbal dressing from Kraft, but I don´t know if you have it in UK. It´s basically water, vinegar, parsil, dill and concentrated leek juice (:worry:sorry don´t know how to translate that).

Happyheart I´m down at 105 and still ovulating, my cycle changed though.
My BMI is 17,6, this sounds really shocking to me, I really hope it will be for a very short time and I´ve managed to stay put at 105 now so that´s good.

[zanacal]

I think your day sounds great Indira! You're doing fantastic too purple :D

Thanks swish - the tomato and mozzarella panini was much more of a treat to me than a bar of chocolate would be! It had 600mg of sodium in it but I hadn't had much earlier in the day so it didn't work out too badly - I think I could probably fit it in again for a treat. I considered only eating half but that would have been such a waste of money. I don't find the Waitrose basic range (whatever it's called) too expensive but it gets tricky down the wine aisle when there isn't anything under a fiver!

[Out of the Blue]

P and zanacal, great job on the weight loss!!! Keep it up! Zana, your day sounds completely crazy!!!

Swish and HappyHeart, thx so much for the support…It really means a lot. I know this is really tough for ALL of us! I think a lot of us are around 110 lbs…so crazy. I just dropped to 109 and I’m hoping I can keep it there until a BFP comes along. I know 4WildOnes got preggers and her BMI was like 17.3 or something crazy like that!!! I think it really depends on your body too as one BMI may be fine for one but for another it may be too low.

Indira – I’ll have to check out that dressing!!! Thx for the tip! I’m so done w/balsamic vinegar…BLAAAHHH Holy cow…you’re 105!!! That’s both cool and scary! I’m hoping you get a speedy BFP so you can eat all you want!!!


No brekkie…coffee w/rice milk
1st meal:
- White basmati w/leeks & zucchini
- Lots of chewy Sweet Tarts candies (I think they’re becoming an addiction…:oops:)
2nd Meal:
- Iceburg and romaine w/balsamic and goat cheese
- “Girl Sway” smoothie
- Yogurt

I was over on sodium and fat today but managed to keep everything else in check.

[jane]

thanks all.yes im eating ..... getting fatter too! im sure the diet thing has alot to do with it though because ive never eaten like this in my entire life, its killing me to eat breakfast every day but im shoveling it in:hair: keep up the good work,im sure you'll all be rewarded:bigsmile:

[Mochagirl]

Congrats on the weight loss, zanacal!

I'm back from the wilds of Northern Ontario and ready to try to get back on track with the diet. Today we were on the road for 10 hours, so I wasn't able to keep 100% to the diet.

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: fries, salad (we were at a restaurant and they had a salad bar, so I got lettuce, cucumber, tomatoes and carrots and put a tiny bit of vinagrette dressing on the side to dip things in). The fries probably tipped me over the edge for sodium today, but salad alone wasn't going to keep me going, and everything else on the menu was full of protein.
Snack: wild blueberries (I know - probably way too healthy for me to eat, but I bought some at a roadside stand and couldn't stop eating them as we drove), diet Coke
Supper: pasta with unsalted butter and parmesan, blueberry fudge (also bought on our trip) for dessert. I also admit I had a tiny piece of chocolate fudge - I couldn't resist! :oops:
Snack: peach, a little more blueberry fudge :oops:

So...not a great day. The fudge is swimming in fat, but I'm still in vacation mode and everyone else was eating it. Tomorrow I'll start tabulating my totals again so I can make sure I'm not overeating.

I'm pretty sure I still haven't O'd - no + OPKs and my cervix is still soft and open. DH and only managed to dtd twice while we were away, and now my Mom is staying at our place for the night, so even tonight is going to be tricky. He's also grumpy from the long driving trip, and he was sooooo not happy when I asked him to release on his own before we dtd tonight. He complained that it's all very awkward with my Mom here, which I agree with (though she and I went out for an hour, so I'm hoping he took care of business then), but I want to make sure I get all my attempts in before I O!

[DoulaMama]

Wow, you guys are all amazing! Way to go on the weightloss Z!! Mocha, I'm glad that you didn't O yet and that you get sometime to fit in some BDing;) Yippee! Blue- Glad to see you back:) Jane- eat like you've never eaten before! I conceived all 3 boys when I was 30-40lbs overweight, eating breckie, lots of chips....yummm...chips....sigh
Indira- I was reading your post on the testosterone thread and it's uncanny how similar we are:) We have many interests that are alike and our personalities seem to be very similar:) Swish :wave: You're about to O soon, right? Everyone is doing so well:) Our group of girl swayers is so awesome :D :HH:

I had to take some time to think about things. Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on the matter :HH: I was a bit lost in the fog of GD and needed to figure some stuff out. I am going to give this the best shot I can. No HT for me. I don't think I could live with it after the fact. I've also talked to my hubby about something that was bothering me even more- stopping after #4. I'm not totally certain that I'll be done....I may want *gasp* 5 kids..... He's got 3 siblings, I have 1 and I know that 4 is a lot of kids but I really love having kids, and I don't want to look back and regret ot having one more. He's not saying no...he's just saying "we'll see" which is fantastic:) Anyway, I was SOOOOO good while I was away from the boards but today has been AWFUL! I haven't tracked anything....and I think I've eaten twice my daily limits! LOL! I feel like a stuffed pig and actually feel a little sick to my tummy after surviving on nothing this past week. So, back to the grind. I think we've pushed back my TTC date to Oct/Nov now just to give me time to lose as much as I can. I feel a bit better knowing I have more time to nurse my littlest, lose weight and get this diet stuff right although I really do want to be preggo with all of you guys! I know I'll be the last one on here to get pregnant but, oh well.
Talk to you guys tomorrow! xoxo

[Out of the Blue]

Morning, Ladies! Another day of the Girl Sway!!! Hope we all have a good day! :HH:

[zanacal]

DM - good for you for taking the time off when you needed it and for talking things through with DH. I know that 4 children is plenty for us. In fact, I'm happy at 3 but I've never tried for my girl and I have to try - I'm excited about another little boy too though so all will be well. FWIW, you're doing the same regarding the weight loss as I am. I feel it's something I would look back on and wonder about if we had another boy - but if I weigh less than I did with my other pregnancies and I lose a lot in the months before our attempt then I'll have no regrets. Our first attempt will be September but we're going to do everything for the first couple of months and only ease up on a few aspects if we're not pregnant by then - so we may very well be ttc at the same time!

Hi everyone else and welcome home mocha!

Here's my day:

Lunch: 2 slices ww bread with slice low fat processed cheese, viennese whirl, 2 boiled sweets.
Snack: 2 ryvita crackerbread with peanut butter. 2 boiled sweets (these are also a bit of an addiction now!)
Dinner: KFC fries in fibre added white wrap with ketchup :D

[DoulaMama]

Thanks Z :HH: I am so thankful to have such wonderfully supportive ladies on this journey. Hugs to you.
How much weight do you have left to lose? You're doing so well! Has it come off consistently? It gives me some hope that mine will come off as well :) back to the grind today. 12+ weeks left....
xo

[purplepoet20]

This morning I am making italian fry bread... no salt but it does need olive oil. I plan to eat it with nothing on it.

[Indira]

Doulamama, I´m sorry you´re on the other side of the globe, otherwise I would visit you and we could chill together :happy: that´s striking that we´re so similar, I guess that´s why we have our boys.

OOTB I can´t believe it either that I´m so thin, I have always been normal weight and never cared about my figure or what I ate.
I´m doing everything I can to get a BFP this or next cycle, my sway is basically the diet and zyrtec and that´s it.

I had my usual mushroom iceberg lettuce salad, GF pasta and activia for lunch
and for dinner a piece of spinach ricotta quiche with white rice, a fat free yoghurt and a piece of cake.
Mmm, I´m noticing I didn´t have any fruit today, I should tomorrow.
BOY is there a lot of fat in a quiche crost :suprise:, I always thought this was one of our healthy meals!
That´s 1540 cal, 36 g protein and 37 g fat.

[zanacal]

Thanks Z :HH: I am so thankful to have such wonderfully supportive ladies on this journey. Hugs to you.
How much weight do you have left to lose? You're doing so well! Has it come off consistently? It gives me some hope that mine will come off as well :) back to the grind today. 12+ weeks left....
xo

I'll feel comfortable if I'm 11st (154lb) or under at the beginning of our attempt month. I'm pretty sure that's my lowest pre-conception weight and whilst I'd prefer to weigh a bit less I'm not happy to wait any later than September as I would really prefer this baby to be no more than 2 school years younger than DS3 - otherwise the age gaps get rather unbalanced! I also expect to lose more in the month of our attempt by cutting back even more around O and if we don't get pregnant first attempt (I don't expect to - DH does!) I'll weigh less the next month! I'm currently 11st 11lb!

[Out of the Blue]

P - that fry bread sounds sooooo yummy! Hope it came out well!

Indira - I'm banking mostly on the diet as well...We'll be using just a little bit of RepHresh, Sylk (b/c I need a lube at this point) and BD from AF to O + 2 days just to make sure. I'm thinking your sway sounds super for a BFP in Aug!!!

Zan and Doula, you guys have a great strategy going! Keep it up!!!

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No brekkie…coffee w/rice milk

1st meal:
- White basmati w/leeks & zucchini
- English muffin w/jam and low fat cream cheese

2nd Meal:
- Iceburg and romaine w/ranch dressing
- “Girl Sway” smoothie
- Yogurt

[Mochagirl]

Here's today for me:

Breakfast: coffee, cappuccino mid-morning (with a friend)
Lunch: toasted WW bread with 30g goat cheese and 30g roasted red peppers. Veeery yummy! I had more blueberry fudge for dessert.
Supper: Orzo pasta with unsalted butter and parmesan cheese, low fat vanilla ice cream, blueberry fudge (someone take this stuff out of my house!)
Snack: green grapes

Calories: 1508
Protein: 33g
Sodium: 692mg

I'm a little concerned about my calories creeping up just as I'm ovulating (I normally eat around 1200). I don't want to gain weight now after all those hard-earned pounds lost! I think I'm going to freeze that fudge so it's not on the counter tempting me and I'll save it for a post-BFP treat.

[Out of the Blue]

blueberry fudge (someone take this stuff out of my house!)

So glad you don't live closer b/c I would come and take it out of your house!!!:oops:

[Mochagirl]

It's luscious, rich vanilla fudge made with full-fat cream and lots of other goodies, and it has real, fresh blueberries dotting the top of it. Mmmmmmmmmm.......

[DoulaMama]

It's luscious, rich vanilla fudge made with full-fat cream and lots of other goodies, and it has real, fresh blueberries dotting the top of it. Mmmmmmmmmm.......

Omg. I think I just had an orgasm. ;)

[DoulaMama]

On another note- I was really good yesterday. Under all my limits for everything except cals- I was at 1400. Still lost weight:) down a complete 7lbs!! Feels so good to be getting smaller! Yay!
How is everyone today??
Mocha- how did last night go?? :rofl: for some reason it doesn't feel weird to ask that question....hahaha!
XO

[DoulaMama]

Oh and while on the topic of orgasms- is there anyone here abstaining? I have started what I like to call my "clitoral cleanse". I will not be having the big O until Oct when we conceive. I think it's going to be harder than the diet.... :rofl:

[Out of the Blue]

Oh and while on the topic of orgasms- is there anyone here abstaining? I have started what I like to call my "clitoral cleanse". I will not be having the big O until Oct when we conceive. I think it's going to be harder than the diet.... :rofl:

Count me in...:sad:...Last time I let myself O was on our vay-cay in May. No Os for me until I get a BFP. Seems like I'm waiting until a BFP for all the good stuff...Lots of Os and food, lol!


YAY, Mocha!!! Hope there's going to be a pink bean in there shortly, if not yet!!!

[Indira]

Oh and while on the topic of orgasms- is there anyone here abstaining?

Eh...yes. It has been months.
But I have to admit I had one on Sunday:oops:all this BD without was getting so frustrating!
Then I ovulated the day after :think:
My sway is practically turning into a blue one, it was full moon, too !:nails:

[Out of the Blue]

On the topic of Os...DH finds it really difficult to perform if I'm not Oing...Bad news for us since we're planning on doing frequent BD from AF straight through O.

Indira, sometimes Oing just happens...:oops: I don't really know how much it even matters and I know you've been swaying hard so don't give it (or anything else) a second thought. Now you're in the 2ww so just try to coast and hopefully try to distract yourself from testing too soon... I know, easier said than done!

[zanacal]

Clitoral clense - you've coined a phrase there DM :giggle: So funny! Well, I've cut right back but because I'm trying to relax about the whole thing and not to see it as a challenge there have certainly been some :oops: I'm pretty sure I'll be too preoccupied to enjoy DTD when we're actually trying so that shouldn't be an issue!

TMI again - DH woke me in the night earlier this week and at 2am or whenever it was (why do they do that?!) he says to me 'you're very dry' and I reply 'that's what the girl diet is meant to do to you' and I'm led there all chuffed about it!! It's certainly never been an issue before.

Anyway, back to food (it always comes back to food with me!). Well done on the weight loss DM, that's fantastic! I have around 1200 cals most days but 2 days each week I up that to 1400 cals and that really seems to help with the weight loss. I do it part way through the week and again at the weekend. Today was a 1400 day :D

Lunch: Roasted veg couscous snackpot with a little melted goat's cheese (didn't like this - some ended up in the bin!), 100g Onken fat free strawberry yogurt, bakewell tart, 2 sweets.
Dinner: Rice pasta with kids tomato and cream pasta sauce, 2 caramel rice cakes, jam tart, 1 sweet.
Supper: 1 piece toast with Flora light and sugar free jam.

[Mochagirl]

Omg. I think I just had an orgasm. ;)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Quick - think of plain rice and leeks or your testosterone will go up! :bigsmile:

[Mochagirl]

On the topic of Os...DH finds it really difficult to perform if I'm not Oing...Bad news for us since we're planning on doing frequent BD from AF straight through O.


I have no shame - I fake it every time with dh or he'd insist that we keep going until I do - if there's going to be no O anyway, I'd just as soon it be a quick in and out job:bigsmile:

[swish]

Hi ladies,
Everyone sounds like they're doing fab at the moment!!
I accidentally had o during last attempt, the rest if the time I had to really stop myself, will have to try harder next attempt!! Today...
No breakfast
Lunch rice with yogurt, lemon, cumin. Strawberries with small meringue, 2 biscuits, actimel
Dinner will be pasta with courgettes and Parmesan and maybe green beans. Frozen yogurt
Better on the snacking today but I'm sooooo bored of only eating at meal times!!!!!!

[Mochagirl]

Mocha- how did last night go?? :rofl: for some reason it doesn't feel weird to ask that question....hahaha!
XO

The deed is done, so to speak:bigsmile:.

The worst part was that I didn't know if dh would want to dtd before or after his baseball game, so I took 2 Benedryl at about 8pm to cover both possibilities. By the time he came home at 11pm, I was practically comatose. I had been trying to stay awake for hours, but every time I sat down I started to snooze. Man, does that stuff knock you out!

I think I may be ovulating right around now. I just checked and my cervix is getting firmer and there's some creamy cm. I just did an OPK and it's still +, but I think last time it stayed + for several days after I knew I had O'd. Does that happen to anyone else? I don't temp, so sometimes I worry I interpret my clues incorrectly and I actually O later than I think.

[swish]

I know I had a positive result the day my temp went up

[Indira]

I´m starting to struggle...but managed to control myself today.
I will look into baby meals tomorrow because I really need something new or I´ll fall off the boat.

Lunch: mushroom iceberg lettuce salad, GF pasta w brown sugar, activia yoghurt and 2 ricecakes
Dinner: leeks zucchini white rice, tiny piece of fish, lowfat yoghurt, one kiwi, a piece of almond crumble cake

1450 calories, 35 g protein, 28 g fat and 400 mg sodium

Sorry Mocha I can´t help you, I know when I O for sure only by temp rise.

[Out of the Blue]

I just did an OPK and it's still +, but I think last time it stayed + for several days after I knew I had O'd. Does that happen to anyone else?
Are you taking Vitex? Sorry…can’t remember! If so, I think Vitex has a tendency to induce strong OPKs in some women. Mine last time was very similar. YAY…You did it!!! Now it's the 2ww!!! :luck:


I´m starting to struggle...but managed to control myself today.
Sounds like me the past few days!!! Been eating 1500 instead of 1300ish…


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No brekkie…coffee w/rice milk

1st meal:
- White basmati w/leeks & zucchini
- Air-popped popcorn (and LOTS of it!)

2nd Meal:
- Iceburg and romaine w/balsamic w/yogurt and goat cheese
- “Girl Sway” smoothie
- Yogurt & strawberries

Just over 1500 cals, 27 g Fat, 31 g Protein, 60 g Fiber & 780 mg Sodium

[Mochagirl]

Yep - I've been taking Vitex, though I stopped today because O was due. I'm going to assume I O'd, which means I'm officially in the 2WW. Phew! I'm going to try to hold off testing till 10dpo this month, but that seems sooooooo far away!

[Out of the Blue]

I'm officially in the 2WW. Phew! I'm going to try to hold off testing till 10dpo this month, but that seems sooooooo far away!

Sounds like you Oed to me. I also vow not to test this next time until at least 10dpo as well. It's just harder for me if I keep testing. :luck:

[swish]

Yay mocha, back in the 2ww!!! Fx for bfp this month, do you feel good about your chances?

[Mochagirl]

I feel good about my chances for a BFP, but not great about my sway. We dtd at 6 days before O, then 3, 2 and 1 days before O. We did frequent BD, but there was one night we didn't get around to dtd until 5:30 in the morning, so I'm worried that dh's sperm count rose by then. We also missed one day releasing, but dh claims he released before we dtd that night. My diet hasn't been great this last month, with this past weekend being the worst.

However, we're in the middle of a record-breaking heatwave here, with humidex ratings approaching 50 degrees celsius. We don't have a/c, so I've been hot all week. That could work in my favour, right?

[Mochagirl]

Hey, Ladies - here's today for me:

Breakfast: coffee
Lunch: rice with a tiny bit of feta, plain yogurt, cilantro and a few pieces of roasted red pepper mixed in. Not very good, sadly. I also had a peach, 3 tiny yellow plums and some raspberries (today was farmer's market day so the house is full of fruit)
Supper: 3 half bagels with low sodium tomato sauce, mushrooms and a tiny bit of low fat mozzarella cheese melted on top, 2 small cobs of corn
Snack: I brought a friend out for drinks and dessert for her birthday. I got a cranberry & soda to drink, and a blood orange sorbet as my dessert, so it didn't end up really being a cheat except for the fact that the juice brought my calories up a bit above my usual amount.
Snack2: When I got home I was starved after watching people eat food at the restaurant. I had two sliced pickles since my sodium was very low for the day, then also had two sugar free cookies. I don't know if it's because I ovulated today, but I've been starved all day! I know I shouldn't have had this second snack, but I couldn't resist!

Calories: 1506
Protein: 45g (a bit higher than I would like - I blame the bagels, which are pretty high in protein. I'm disappointed my lunch rice was no good because I wasted 8g of protein on that!)
Sodium: 887mg

I hid the fudge in the fridge today so I managed to avoid eating it. I think I may freeze what's left to enjoy once I get my BFP.

[jane]

Oh and while on the topic of orgasms- is there anyone here abstaining? I have started what I like to call my "clitoral cleanse". I will not be having the big O until Oct when we conceive. I think it's going to be harder than the diet.... :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[jane]

Eh...yes. It has been months.
But I have to admit I had one on Sunday:oops:all this BD without was getting so frustrating!
Then I ovulated the day after :think:
My sway is practically turning into a blue one, it was full moon, too !:nails::rofl:im lovin this thread! you guys are cracking me up:giggle:

[PinkPaisley]

I would love to join you girls on this thread. You are all doing so well and I am going to need some motivation :) I haven't fully decided when we are going to try...it might be this month though (although I should be on the diet longer).

My stats: 130lbs (yikes, heaviest ever for me!) After 2 days on diet: 126.5lbs

Yesterday:
breakfast: coffee with skim milk
930: Yoplait light yogurt
1200: mini bagel, tiny bit of cream cheese, sugar free jam, cup of strawberries with splenda
300: Yoplait light yogurt
600: 1 cup pasta, small amount of tomato sauce, and parmesan. One apple with no skin.

Cal: 1056
Fat: 22.7
Prot: 39.2
Sod: 705 mg

I feel like I did okay...I am still trying to push breakfast back and get rid of snacks....those are the two hardest things for me :(

I'm really excited to join you girls and FX we all get BFP's soon because this diet is terrible!

[Indira]

Good job, pinkpaisley! and :welcome:
Oh, I love that pic of your 3 boys there.
And I´m sorry about your baby angel girl :HH:

[purplepoet20]

I would love to join you girls on this thread. You are all doing so well and I am going to need some motivation :) I haven't fully decided when we are going to try...it might be this month though (although I should be on the diet longer).

My stats: 130lbs (yikes, heaviest ever for me!) After 2 days on diet: 126.5lbs

Yesterday:
breakfast: coffee with skim milk
930: Yoplait light yogurt
1200: mini bagel, tiny bit of cream cheese, sugar free jam, cup of strawberries with splenda
300: Yoplait light yogurt
600: 1 cup pasta, small amount of tomato sauce, and parmesan. One apple with no skin.

Cal: 1056
Fat: 22.7
Prot: 39.2
Sod: 705 mg

I feel like I did okay...I am still trying to push breakfast back and get rid of snacks....those are the two hardest things for me :(

I'm really excited to join you girls and FX we all get BFP's soon because this diet is terrible!


Welcome to the girl swayers!

I replaced snacks with diet soda and crystal light... it was hard for a few days but then after a week I was used to it.

[purplepoet20]

Yesterday I had...

7 and 9 coffee w/ asp and coffeemate
11 asp oatmeal
... diet soda and crystal light
3 asp oatmeal
... diet soda and crystal light
7 chicken tacos with onion and bell peppers
10 crystal light and a candy bar :)

[zanacal]

Well done everyone and welcome PinkPaisley!

I accidentally went a bit over on sodium today. For some reason I'm feeling a bit down and like I can't be bothered - not with the diet in particular but just in general. Anyhow:

Lunch: Low fat cheese slice and cucumber with 2 white bread. Cheese & Onion hoola hoops. 2 sweets.
Dinner: Wrap with feta, cucumber and balsamic. Bakewell tart. 2 sweets.
Snack: Hopefully some sweets - I've asked DH to buy me some Skittles on the way home!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry you're feeling down, zanacal. It happens to all of us. I've been trying to give myself a break when I go slightly over for protein or sodium, since no matter what it's still a dramatic change from my diet before TTC. Yesterday I had trouble with protein. I wasted too much of my daily budget at lunch and had the choice of going slightly over at supper or eating pretty much nothing. I opted for the former, of course - I was so hungry I would have eaten my arm if someone put some salt on it!

[zanacal]

Thanks Mocha. AF is due tomorrow so I'm sure my mood is something to do with that! I'm not fussed about the sodium either, it's only one day and I think it's the least important of the limits to stick with. How's the 2ww - do you feel optimistic about getting a BFP?

[Mochagirl]

I really hope I get one this month and I think I have a pretty good chance! I'm sooooo desperate to eat again!

[DoulaMama]

Oh Mocha I so hope that this month is THE month!!!
Z- I feel the same way about the sodium- When my mother conceived my sis and I she used to eat sauteed veggies smothered in beef gravy for dinner(no meat at all just veggies). I'm sure her sodium levels were quite high but her protein levels were very low. I'm really trying to keep my protein down now...it's slowly getting easier but I honestly don't know how you gals have stuck to this for so long! I'm in awe!
PinkPaisley- Welcome to the thread! This is the thread that never ends.....yes it goes on and on my friends.... :wink:


I was really good yesterday:) Until 11pm.... LOL
9am- Tea
11:30am- 2 pieces of white toast with strawberry jam
3pm- low sodium homemade soup
7pm- salad with cranberries, apples and tblsp of shredded cheddar with balsamic vinegar(plus 2 bites of my kids battered fish...yum!!!)

This is where I fell off the wagon....1/2cup strawberries with whipped cream and then a waffle bowl full of homemade icecream! I know it's stuff I can eat but I definitely went over on Cals.... :oops: I was at a ladies night out and I was there until 2:30am....so I got pretty hungry and my blood sugar was non existent. Or at least that's how I justify it:)
Didn't tally my points but oh well. Today's a new day:)

[Mochagirl]

Your day doesn't sound that bad, DM. I admit I often have something sweet later in the evening - I just can't make it from supper to lunch the next day without eating!

[swish]

Hello lovely ladies!! Welcome new people to the thread.
I am so bored of this diet, I can hardly be bothered to write what I'm eating!!
No breakfast
Lunch 2pieces of toast with cucumber and tiny bit of yogurt, strawberries, yogurt, biscuit
Dinner rice, courgette, mushroom, green beans, Parmesan, frozen yogurt, more strawberries
Few sweets but having to lay off tutti frooties as my filling is crumbling, oh dear!! Don't know how I'm going to explain the state of my teeth to the dentist!!

Zani, I have felt like this lately and especially around af, I wondered if it might be the vitex??
Mocha, I think your attempt looks fab, I'm going to be seriously depressed for you if you don't get a bfp!!!! I think I'll be entering the 2ww as you leave it!!

[Mochagirl]

Mocha, I think your attempt looks fab, I'm going to be seriously depressed for you if you don't get a bfp!!!! I think I'll be entering the 2ww as you leave it!!

I'm planning to test July 31st./August 1st, depending on how long I can hold out. Hopefully I'll start a rash of August BFPs that will keep going until you get yours!

[zanacal]

Thanks swish, it's 2 weeks since I've taken vitex so I guess it's not that! Lol at not being bothered writing what you've eaten - I know what you mean! I had my Skittles but Tutti Fruttis are so much better :D Starving now so I suppose I'll pour myself a big glass of coke - there go my teeth too!

[zanacal]

Oh crap, just messed up and ate 6 custard cream biscuits! That's 345 cals I shouldn't have had - although I suppose it's still only 1500 or so for the day. I should go to bed before I'm tempted by anything else, thank goodness tomorrow is another day.

[DoulaMama]

Z- I'm so starving today and have Zero will power so just the sound of custard creams makes me want to hop on a flight to England just to have some! That and a whole bag of cadbury chocolates.....drool~ oh and to meet you of course! :D
My mom and dad are Brits(I'm 1st gen. Canadian) so we used to go to England to see relatives every few years, and I have to say that the treats are just so darn good over there! I lived in Brussels for 1.5 years as well and I still dream of the Patisseries I used to frequent..... My name is____ and I'm a foodaholic :oops: :wink:

[zanacal]

Thanks DM - the funny thing is I don't eat biscuits at all usually! Where are your family from? Starving hungry again so off to bed. Night x

[DoulaMama]

My mom is from London- born in Lambeth, raised in Clapham and Battersea and my dad was born in Bristol and raised in Bath and Brighton. I've been all through Kent and London. I really love Southern England:)

[jane]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Quick - think of plain rice and leeks or your testosterone will go up! :bigsmile::giggle::rofl::giggle::rofl:

[Mochagirl]

I did a bit better today:

7am: coffee
12pm: 1/2 a Montreal style bagel with 1/2 tbsp low fat peanut butter, rice milk, a peach
5:30pm: black bean quesadillas. I took 1/2 cup of no salt added black beans and 1 cup no salt added tomatoes, and cooked them in a pot for about 5 minutes with a bunch of fresh cilantro. I then spread half of the mixture on two sodium-free corn tortillas, added about 20g of shredded light cheddar to each and topped with another tortilla. I cooked them one at a time (on both sides) in a hot pan to toast the tortillas and melt the cheese. I then topped each with a bit of plain yogurt and 1tbsp fresh salsa. It was very yummy and very satisfying, and well within the nutritional guidelines! I splurged on the cheese - I could have used 15g on each for 30g total, but I really felt like something cheesy. I also had 2 sugar free cookies and a peach for dessert.
9pm: low fat vanilla ice cream with raspberries, about 4 small golden plums

Calories: 1268
Protein: 41g
Sodium: 856mg

[PinkPaisley]

Mocha-FX this is your BFP and, hopefully, it starts a trend :)

I feel like I did pretty well today, but it is going to be so hard to keep this up....I know you girls say it gets better but the hunger pains are awful!!

7am-coffee and skim milk
12pm-raspberries, mini bagel, tiny cream cheese, jam
3pm-mini bagel, tiny cream cheese, jam, yoplait light
7pm-salad (iceburg lettuce, cucumber, little bit of tomato, little bit of balsamic), pasta with butternut squash and goat cheese mixed in.

Cal: 1174
Fat: 27.2
Pro: 37
Sod: 619

[Mochagirl]

Looks good, PinkPaisley! I often have pasta with butternut squash, but I usually use parmesan. Next time I'm going to try goat cheese - that sounds yummy!

I took the advice of some of the other ladies here and have started having a Diet Coke/Pepsi mid-afternoon, just when the hunger pangs hit. It really does help full your stomach to keep you going until supper time! I still have a snack/mini-meal in the evening, though - I just need to have something to look forward to after I finally get the kids in bed!

[zanacal]

Your dinner sounds so good mochagirl :D You're doing great too PinkPaisley!

DM - I live around 45 minutes from Bath. So funny because happyheart has also visited there!

I'm up for the day and ready to be a good girl again, trying not to feel guilty about my little splurge last night because I can't go back in time! My family are about to eat pains au chocolat again. I might put a peg on my nose ...

[Indira]

That´s mean though that they´re eating pains au chocolat, zanacal
Yesterday I had my usual boring meals getting at 1300 calories, 38 g of protein, 26 of fat and 330 mg sodium.
I found babyfood tomatosauce at the supermarkt, it still has 380 mg sodium in it.
A lot better though than the amatriciana sauce DH is cooking now for lunch that he wants me to eat, the bacon he puts in it has 3500 mg sodium :suprise:

[Mochagirl]

That´s mean though that they´re eating pains au chocolat, zanacal


I agree! I've put a ban on all my favourite, taboo foods for the whole family since I wouldn't be able to stand watching them eat.

[Out of the Blue]

PinkPaisley – you’re off to a great start. For me, I started gradually cutting out my snacks/meals…I used to be a 5-6 meal Mama (but I was still a size 2 when I ate like this). It will get easier and everyone here gives so much support and humor, especially through the tough times.

Kelly, it’s the trend that matters. Also, IMHO (emphasis on humble, lol), I think that sodium is the least swaying factor we’re watching. While we still need to watch the sodium, it’s the fat/protein that creates T. You’re doing a SUPER JOB!

Mocha, oh, I do hope you get preggers this time! You will have wonderful conception stories although they may be a bit X-rated, lol. Swish, you won’t be far behind w/your BFP!!!

DM – you’re doing great! I know you splurged a bit on the ice cream but think about how much better you’re doing than before! That wasn't even that bad really. You still have a ways to go before you’ll TTC so there’ll be a few wrong turns now and then but the trend will be good and you’ll still be losing.


I lived in Brussels for 1.5 years as well and I still dream of the Patisseries I used to frequent..... My name is____ and I'm a foodaholic :oops: :wink:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Hi, I'm Jen and I'm a foodaholic! Just ask DH, lol. It's funny how you get used to wonderful, comforting food where ever you live. I lived in Sri Lanka for almost 3 yrs and ate something made out of coconuts at EVERY meal. I miss my coconut curries...I know it sounds gross but they were seriously nirvana! :( Speaking of smilies, we need a "Stuff Your Face" smilie!


BTW, I just got a BFP last night…??? :holysheep: :nails:

We weren’t TTC last time and I still don’t know how it happened since it was 7 days before I O’d…I’m over the moon but now starting to feel a bit deflated b/c I was doing really well w/my diet…starting at 2dpo…sigh.

[PinkPaisley]

Oh my Gosh, Out of the Blue! Congratulations!!!! It was meant to be :) I am SO excited for you! Who is next? :)

[Indira]

That´s amazing OOTB, congrats again, I answered you on your thread :kissy:

I want to take back being a little negative about babyfoods tomatosauce, :omg: was that good after months of plain noodles !!!

[zanacal]

I still can't believe it Out of the Blue - absolutely this was meant to be! I 'let' DH DTD unprotected like a week after I O'd and the day before AF arrived and he was convinced I'd get pregnant from that. Urr, no dear, even you're not capable of that!!

[zanacal]

We weren’t TTC last time and I still don’t know how it happened since it was 7 days before I O’d…I’m over the moon but now starting to feel a bit deflated b/c I was doing really well w/my diet…starting at 2dpo…sigh.

... but being on the diet at that time may have been the crucial part for growing a girl bean, low blood sugar favouring girls is something which is proven!

[zanacal]

My food for today:

Lunch: Apricot croissant, toddler crisps, 2 sweets.
Dinner: Dry fried tortilla wrap topped with roasted yellow courgette, red pepper and mushroom, kids tomato pasta sauce and 30g melted cheddar. This was so good that I can't stop thinking about it - will probably eat it again tomorrow! Bakewell tart for pudding.
Snack: Tutti fruttis (when these kids finally go to bed!!).

[swish]

Omg, ootb, congratulations!!!!! I am so pleased for you!!!!

[swish]

Today I had
No breakfast
Lunch prezzo flatbread pizza with salad, 3 White chocolate fish and chips!!
Dinner rice with courgette, mushroom, balsamic and tiny bit if Parmesan, strawberries with meringue, frozen yogurt and tooti frooties

[Mochagirl]

I'm so happy for you OotB. Here's hoping there's a healthy pink bean in there!!! Enjoy eating real food again - I'm jealous!

Today wasn't a great day because we were at a friend's cottage for the day. I didn't have a lot of control over meals. I was able to keep my protein low enough, but went way over for sodium:

7am: coffee
1pm: 2 very small pieces of cheese pizza (I sooooo wanted more - my stomach was still grumbling when I finished my tiny portion - but I was good and held off)
5pm: veggie burger, 1/2 piece of wild blueberry tart...and 2 small magic cookie squares (a yummy concoction of condensed milk, coconut, graham crumbs and chocolate chips. ds took one and didn't like it, so before I knew it I had popped it into my mouth to finish it for him. The taboo chocolate tasted so good I'd eaten another before I came to my senses)
10pm: a few small yellow plums

Calories: 1050
Protein: 40g
Sodium: 1400mg (!!!)

I am sooooooooo ready to be done with this diet. I just want to be able to enjoy food again without constantly obsessing over its sodium and protein content. Just 8 more days till I can test. DH will be away on a research trip in the UK, but I don't think I want to wait till he gets back to test.

[PinkPaisley]

did not do so well today. I did great this morning...I made it until 11 for breakfast..YAY! but then a good friend came over for dinner and I got side tracked.

7 am- coffee with skim milk
11- butternut squash pasta with goat cheese
230-mini bagel with cream cheese and jam
630- two portabello mushrooms grilled in balsamic, sprinkled with goat cheese lettuce and tomato, sweet potato
8-small piece of yellow cake with custard and berries...I know! Horrible, my friend brought it to dinner and I had to try it!

confession: I also had a glass of wine :(

cal 1626
fat 43
prot 50
sod 1011

:( not a good day

[Mochagirl]

That cake doesn't sound too bad - sweets are ok on this diet. I also wouldn't worry too much about the wine - I know I've indulged in a glass or two over the past few months, and I didn't concren myself too much about it as long as it didn't become a regular thing.

Where did all your protein and sodium come from? Your food for the day looks pretty good. Maybe you used too much goat cheese with your meals? I bought a kitchen scale and weigh things obsessively. A portion of cheese is often way smaller than you think. Also, a lot of us girls eat rice pasta instead of regular pasta because it has about half the protein.

I still think you're doing great!

[zanacal]

I don't think your day sounds bad either PinkPaisley!

Here's my Sunday:

Lunch: Wrap with roasted vegetables, 1/2 tin of tomatoes and feta. Bakewell tart. 2 sweets.
Snack: Strawberry and white chocolate cereal bar (not much cereal, lots of sugar!). 1 sweet.
Dinner: Macaroni and mushrooms with Bisto cheese sauce. WW toffee and honeycomb ice-cream sundae (thanks swish, this was so good!). 1 glass wine :D

[Indira]

today we were on a city trip, DH wanted to take the boys to McDonalds, so I watched them eat there and then ate a cheese sandwich and a apple-in-a-crost kind of pie afterwards.
Then at dinner I had GF pasta with kid´s tomatosauce with aubergine and zucchini, salad, an activia yoghurt and rice chips (cinnamon sugar flavour), I found these at my store, they´re a nice treat.

NOW I JUST WANT TO SNACK :sigh:

[swish]

Hi ladies!!
Sunday was the usual right off for me again!!!
No breakfast
1130 go ahead bar and 1 small piece of toast (don't know why I ate this!!!)
late lunch new potatoes, salad, 3 slices of hallumi cheese (I found out after I probably ate 1200mg sodium in this alone!!), 2 slices of olive ciabatta bread, roasted vegetables. A few pieces of crunchy chocolate. Chocolate brownie ice cream. Oh dear!!!
I shouldn't eat again but I'm hungry so I'm having plain rice with beans and balsamic.
I don't calculate my overall amounts but I think I'm drastically over today, I'll be good tomorrow!!

[Mochagirl]

Swish - after I posted my totals yesterday I got into my chocolate fudge :suprise: I think once you cheat a little, it becomes easier to cheat more. I'm starting to think that if I have to do this diet another month (and I really, REALLY hope I don't), I might give myself one cheat day a week to eat what I want. I'm just so tired of the work involved in eating within this diet!

[swish]

Me too, I'm thinking that if my attempt doesn't work this time I going to just do vegetarian and try to keep protein low but that's about it! Oh and I'll skip breakfast. I just can't go on like this, it's so depressing!!! Food can really affect your mood. Even though I've eaten loads more this cycle I haven't put on any weight, I'm really keeping my fx for us this time!!!!!!!

[swish]

Btw, fudge is my favourite sweet treat!!!!

[Indira]

mocha and swish, I totally feel the same way. It is depressing to eat this way and for me it is especially depressing to feel unfree to just eat want I want when it comes up in my mind!

Now I´m going to give you girls some hope: I had a huge temp dip today, was worrying again about my cycle being crazy, but now I´ve looked at FF charts and it could have been an implantation dip..if my temp is up again tomorrow I´m going to test for fun, I have 10 cheap HPT so I can waste a couple :nails:

[swish]

Good luck, indira!!!! Fx fir bfp!!!

[Mochagirl]

Oooooo - good luck, Indira! We need some good news to keep morale up!

Swish - I just know you and I will get our BFPs this month...we HAVE to!!!

[swish]

I have changed a few things and I'm trying to work out how to use less rephresh as I think this coupled with less vitex and sp will help, I hope so!!!!!

[zanacal]

Sounds promising Indira, here's hoping! You too mocha! Where are you swish - are you waiting to O? I am officially having my last AF before our first attempt cycle. It's still around 6 weeks away but I feel really apprehensive. Not about my sway, but about ttc at all! I know I'll be fine once we're there but I've had so long to think of it and I'm usually a 'dive right in without thinking about it too much' kind of person.

Can I have some advice about licorice root for DH as I know some of yours' are using it? DH isn't keen on taking it and ideally I would have him try it out this cycle to see how the dosage affects him but I'm nervous of asking him because it would probably freak him out. If I wait until our attempt cycle and I hand him a couple of pills to take (aspirin and licorice root) before we DTD then that's probably going to go down a lot better. Do you think it's risky to not try it out until the month of our attempt even if I only give him 1 pill (half the dosage) and I make sure he tells me at the first sign that it might be getting in the way of frequent BDing so he can stop them? I can't imagine that 1 pill a day will affect him that much given the point we're starting from. Thoughts?

[zanacal]

Sorry - had to finish that quickly as DH came and sat next to me! He knew I was writing about him because he commented on me calling him 'DH' but didn't read the content! I think I had pretty much finished anyway - just thinking something may be better than nothing!

[Mochagirl]

I opted not to do licorice root since dh is very much not on board with swaying and quite honestly is not very happy with the decision to have a 4th to begin with. In fact, he thinks all these things I'm doing (such a frequent BD) are to maximise my chances of getting pregnant. If I told him we were actually trying to make it harder to get pregnant I'm sure he'd think I'd finally gone completely loopy and would opt out of the whole TTC thing completely.

So...a long way to say I can't help with any advice! :wink:

[swish]

He, he, I'm always switching off when dh lingersover my shoulder!!! Af has just finished for me, so I'm waiting to ovulate and really hoping it happens around cd 18 as it used to as I would be in 2 ww whilst on holiday, this will allow me to enjoy my holiday more, plus my mum will be there for the first 3 days so it will be very hard to be strict if I ovulate at that time, fx!!!! I really don't think you need to worry about trying lr before attempt, something is better than nothing! Dh says he does notice a difference, in that he doesn't want to jump me every day!!!! But he still did frequent release with no problem at all. He is however worried that it will permanently affect his sex drive and is not sure if he wants to continue taking it after this attempt, having said that he doesn't want us to sway at all if we're not successful this time. Btw I can't believe you are 6 weeks away, it seemed like ages when you started, you're bound to be feeling apprehensive.

[zanacal]

Lol swish - I think that's why DH is apprehensive too! Thanks both x

[PinkPaisley]

zancal- Just a note on the LR...my DH is taking it (one pill a day) and there haven't been any problems yet, but when we were ttc out third (baby we lost) he took two a day and had a little trouble preforming. Nothing that stopped us from frequent BD but it took a bit longer than usual :)

So, on to diet! I did much better today but my protein is high. I shouldn't have eaten chicken for dinner, I think I might go veggie from here on out...

8-coffee with skim milk
1130-pasta with butternut squash and goat cheese
3-yoplait yogurt
6-chicken (not very much), sweet potatoes, and watermelon

cal:880
pro: 45.3
fat: 18.6
sod: 569.3 mg

I think I might have something else later just because my calories are so low, but maybe not...

Mocha- I went back and looked at my food yesterday and the goat cheese is def a factor in my sodium so I need to cut back a bit, but I also added the cake twice, so once I removed it I was back in the range for sodium..I am glad you mentioned the goat cheese though, I was going overboard.

[Mochagirl]

Here's today for me:

7am: coffee
12pm: roasted veggie and goat cheese quesadilla on sodium-free corn tortillas (it wasn't very good - the taste of the corn tortilla didn't go with the goat cheese), Sour Patch Kids
5pm: rice pasta with zucchini and leaks and parmesan, cantaloupe, WW carrot creme cake
8:30pm: Smart Pop butter-flavoured microwave popcorn, peach, raspberries and blueberries with a bit of whipped cream

Help! I can't stop eating! I was way under budget for sodium today, hence the popcorn as a treat...but in retrospect I wish I'd had something yummier since I don't even really like popcorn.

Calories: 1414
Protein: 39g
Sodium: 673mg

[zanacal]

Sorry mocha but I laughed at that - isn't it annoying to waste precious calories on something which isn't very nice anyway, I hate that!

PinkPaisley - thanks for the tip with the licorice root. I really don't want things taking longer than they should - if I'm going to have to DTD every day then I want it to be as short and sweet as possible :D I'll definitely just give him 1 pill a day. Glad to have that sorted in my mind. You definitely need more calories, you must be starving!

I don't think I've lost much weight this week. I'm ok with that because I'm part way through AF and hopefully I'll get a bigger loss next week to make up for it. I am slightly worried that I won't have lost as much as I really need to by next month though.

Last night I told myself that I should restrict myself to weekends on here now because it was always my plan to step back and concentrate on other things as I got close to my attempt - well it's 8.30am and here I am :D However, if I do manage to sort myself out and do that then I may disappear for a few days - just in case anybody wonders where I am!

Have a good day everyone - I'm off work this week and my mum is coming over and we're taking the boys fruit picking. She's also bringing blueberry muffins she's made, so I'm trying to find an average nutritional content because it would seem very odd (and rude!) if I refused!

[swish]

Lol, Zani! I tried to do this but here I am at 8:50!! I am more chilled this time but at the same tine I'm feeling like there's no hope of a bfp and even less of a little girlie! My sister and I were chatting yesterday, she doesn't know I'm swaying and she said it would be very unlikely for me to get a girl after 2 boys (this is what she has) as it would be too coincidental to get the same thing and I tend to agree :( she wasn't being unkind, she doesn't even know how much I want a dd.

[zanacal]

{hugs} swish - almost everybody I know who had a third baby after 2 boys had a girl and that can't just be coincidence. Chin up :-) Now I really am going to go and get dressed!!

[swish]

Thanks! :) Me too, this site is so addictive!!

[Mochagirl]

swish - that would not be too much of a coincidence at all! TONS of people have a girl after 2 boys, and you're doing tons to sway, which really weighs the odds in your favour! We have to all try to think positively. A year from now we'll all be holding our little pink bundles of joy, I'm sure of it!

[Out of the Blue]

You all are doing so well!! PinkPaisley, that cake you ate wasn’t terrible! You’re doing a great job!!! Just try to get at least 1200 cals in if you can!


Last night I told myself that I should restrict myself to weekends on here now because it was always my plan to step back and concentrate on other things as I got close to my attempt - well it's 8.30am and here I am :D However, if I do manage to sort myself out and do that then I may disappear for a few days - just in case anybody wonders where I am!

Z – that’s totally what I was going to do. The week before O, I was going to not log on at all and just try to get my mind off of swaying and just go on "autopilot". I planned to probably not even log on much in the 2ww as I drove myself crazy last time. Do what you need to do!


My sister and I were chatting yesterday, she doesn't know I'm swaying and she said it would be very unlikely for me to get a girl after 2 boys (this is what she has) as it would be too coincidental to get the same thing and I tend to agree :( she wasn't being unkind, she doesn't even know how much I want a dd.

I’m so sorry! It’s comments like that (especially the really innocent ones) that just gut me. You have every chance she had at having a girl and probably more since you’re actually swaying (and kicking butt!). XXX

For some reason, Swish, I had though you had already O’d and were a few days behind Mocha. Doh! I’m sending you lots of good vibes for this next attempt!

Where, oh, where is DM??? Are you on holiday, DM??? Thinking about you and missing you!

OK…Who are our ladies waiting to test? Mocha and Indira? Indira, I’m so excited for you!!! How many dpo were you when you saw the dip? If your temp is up, I say test away, sister! How many dpo are you, Mocha? I’m really hoping this is it for both of you. I can’t wait to get this WHOLE group over to the preg side!

Thanks for all the kind words regarding my surprise. My emotions have been a rollercoaster and now I’m starting to mellow out, thankfully. On the food front, I thought I’d be way more excited than I am. Food just seems like food and my stomach has shrunk. I am eating whatever/whenever I want but I’m honestly not even hungry and just want to eat salads and strawberries.

[Mochagirl]

I'm 4dpo and feeling really nauseous. I'm planning to test on Saturday (9dpo) or Sunday (10dpo).

BTW, swish - I forgot to mention that my brother makes insensitive comments all the time about how he's SURE if I have another baby it'll be a boy...and he knows how desperately I want a girl.

[Out of the Blue]

YAY!!! 4dpo!!! I would definitely wait until the weekend (Sunday if you can). :luck:!!!!!


BTW, swish - I forgot to mention that my brother makes insensitive comments all the time about how he's SURE if I have another baby it'll be a boy...and he knows how desperately I want a girl.

Errrrrrr....:mad: My mom was making those comments last year but w/her I think it was b/c she didn't want us to have more than 2 kids (b/c she did so she thinks that's best for everyone...so annoying!)

[zanacal]

I've decided that it would be far more of a challenge to me to not log in so much - not good for my testosterone at all :D Perhaps I'll find a happy medium!

[Out of the Blue]

Yeah...I probably wouldn't have made it either, lol! You'll be fine!

[Indira]

I've decided that it would be far more of a challenge to me to not log in so much - not good for my testosterone at all :D So true! I also tried to stay away around my attempt, but I wasn´t able to resist :happy:

OOTB according to FF it was 6dpo when I had the implantation dip.
My temp was back up today.
So..I just tested, it is negative, BUT on the side I see a purple dot where (I think) the testline would appear...:think: I think I could eat a normal dinner today-but I´m scared!:nails:

[Out of the Blue]

OOTB according to FF it was 6dpo when I had the implantation dip.
My temp was back up today.
So..I just tested, it is negative, BUT on the side I see a purple dot where (I think) the testline would appear

So exciting!!! The timing of the dip sounds really promising! I think it can take up to about 48 hrs to get some sort of + after implantation. You may be able to get a really faint one tomorrow. Oh, I'm giddy w/excitement for you!!! :running::fingers::cheer:

[Indira]

Thank you! I know 7 dpo is too early to test but I really really really want to eat normally (especially for the bean if it´s in nythere) so I didn´t want to miss a change lol. Will test again tomorrow morning..

[swish]

Thank you for all your encouragement, ladies!!! It's so hard to believe I will be one of the people saying 'my sway worked!!!', positivity isn't my strong point, I'm more of a think the more realistic option and if the other happens I'll be delighted!!!
Indira, sooooo excited for you, I really hope this is it!!
Mocha, you have very promising symptoms too, fx!!
Ootb, salad and strawberries - no, no, no!!!!! You HAVE to eat for the rest of us!!! Seriously, I saw a few girls on ingender that didn't fancy the food they used to eat when pregnant and ended up having.....a girl!!!
Today so far..
No breakfast
Lunch jam sandwich, go ahead bar, apple and cinnamon rice cakes
Very low on everything as I'm eating out with friends tonight, I phoned the restaurant to ask about low sodium food, they said they could make me a salt free pasta Sauce from scratch but I can't work out how to do it without making a show in front of everyone, think I'll just go for the pasta/ tomato option, should be ok as I've only had 110mg sodium today
so lots left in the budget!!
Zani, that is very good point about being more challenging not to log on!!! I have bought myself 3 new books so really trying to do the chilling thing, I would normally never do that unless on holiday. The week of ov is just before my holiday and I'll be in my 'super organised' element, might have to let everything be chaos!!!! Now that would be a challenge...

[Mochagirl]

I'm sure the pasta with tomato sauce will be fine. I always figure it's better to go over with sodium rather than protein anyway.

[zanacal]

Where are you going on holiday swish? My goodness going through an airport and on a flight with 3 children would have my testosterone blowing out of my ears! Good job you'll already be in your 2ww :D I'm sure the food will be fine tonight, sodium probably matters least.

Ugh, this year has been the year of disgusting firsts for our family. First DS1 brought home headlice from school (several times) and just when I'm finally not freaked out by that DS2 has threadworms! I feel awful for him because I saw them and said 'oh you've got worms' whereas it may have been better just to call it an infection or something so as not to freak him out. Needless to say he IS freaked out and DS1 is scared of him getting too near too. It is truly gross and I'm waiting for DH to come home with the medicine and am busy washing all our bedding and towels etc. I discovered this this afternoon and this morning we went fruit picking - I dread to think of what might have exchanged hands there!

Now on to food (funny, not that hungry right now!):

Lunch: Mum's homemade blueberry muffin, raspberries and blackberries, light squirty cream. Velvet Crunch (these are a bit like rice cakes but are made from tapioca and cassava, whatever that is!) - very low in everything and a yummy cheese & onion flavour.
Dinner: Innocent aubergine vegetable pot (very nice and probably way too healthy!), 2 mini pittas. ww ice cream sundae.
Snack: Haven't decided yet!