♥ JULY 2011 TTC Boy Chit Chat Thread ♥

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman, you in 2ww now, GL. I bet you'll get bfp because you not expecting it.

Kris, any update on how you got on

You are probably right, baby. :) This has been mentioned before but have thought of a girls name you can get excited about to help ease into the thoughts of the baby being a girl just in case? It really helped me mellow out and thinking a girl wouldn't be so bad. Of coarse I'd take a healthy anything at this point after the loss of DS2. I figure my odds are a girl after 2 boys in a row anyway and 9 servings of fruit and veggies is hard. :) I wish I had more years and a more willing DH to just keep on having babies. :)

[iluvmyman]

Oh girl, sorry to hear you are feeling bummy about it also. It's hard to be focused and positive about it with a lot of arrows coming at you from many directions, I know how that is. I haven't been as good on the diet or anything also, but you know, just do what you can and are capable of doing. You never know, maybe this was a good attempt month! But it is good to take a break from swaying and being caught up in this world sometimes and doing things like going out drinking. It can get to you really quick. I've been officially swaying for a year now, and without those few breaks and indifferent phases I had, I would be as mad as a hatter right now. So, we'll keep encouraging each other, yeah!!!

1 year at this is a really crappy 1 year anniversary. :) I've started heavily looking into swaying the beginning of March and have had a few attempts but a year....that blows my friend. I think I would be very lightly swaying too. I don't want to take any real breaks since I lost so much time w/ my cycles (although I did still O it was just all over the place) and at 35 I really would like to just have another chance at holding a new life again. Who knows though I'm all over the place w/ what I want but I'd really still like to have another boy, my focus just isn't 120% like it was. Weird, I would've killed for another boy and was in tears about it a lot, but time is healing me a little bit too I think from losing DS2. I just can't seem to get that fire lit like it was under my butt. I'm trying though. :)

[iluvmyman]

I'm afraid it does. The risk of multiples is 10%, and it does sway girl a bit by drying up your cm. I have not been a champ on the diet, but am trying my best at this point. I think I will do some ew and try all the other bells and whistles during the attempt to try to counter it. But, ya know, it's not a definite girl-maker.....my sister told me last night that she has 3 friends who had boys on Clomid (no swaying, of course). I am a little freaked out by the multiple issue, but 10% isn't that high. You should try it if you need though, Iluv....I think of course getting pg is much more important, and hopefully your baby(ies) would be just fine this time.

So the trick then is to use the ew's or preseed and get the CM going as much as you can to counter act that. twins would be great I just think that baby stage would seem to fly by w/ 2 and not get to appreciate it as much. I wish they would stay baby's for longer, but baby's that sleep through the night, of coarse. :) I hate every day that goes by and they are 1 day older. It goes that much quicker when you have other children too since you are just busier than the days when you could sit on the couch all day and hold your baby. :) Twins would be great to go out w/ a nice little bang though. :) 10% doesn't seem that outrageous just have to get lots of real or fake EWCM.

3 of her friends had boys, that's good news! I started to think Clomid was an over the counter med since it seems so many people take clomid. I was always told not to come in unless it's been a full year of TTC. I think 35 and above it's ok to go in at 6 months. Of Coarse, I've never been in a forum w/ most of the women ttc, either.:) If this takes much longer I think I might ask for it, but not sure how much the Dr. would be into it. I think it's risky if 1 kid only in the womb as breathing issues the last 2 births, then how would 2 smaller babies do if I had twins. If I decide to try the clomid I would definitely have to talk to the Dr about it. Ahhh, I liked blissful ignorance so much better. :)

[iluvmyman]

Bec, the fish oil is a blood thinner and can make you spot some. If you just added that recently, it may be the culprit, but a trip to the doc is not a bad idea. I agree with Babydes about getting your progesterone checked.....do you take a progesterone supplement in the 2ww?

Bec, Lola and the girls recommended I go in to the Dr. after a couple jacked up cycles and AF's really close to each other, and I found out I have hypothyroidism. I would say that a check-up couldn't hurt.

[iluvmyman]

Hmmmm, thoughts to consider about he diet, thanks for sharing.

I never mind sharing as long as it's not body functions....oops, I guess I'm on the wrong forum. I'm just so glad we get to use Acronyms since cervical mucus just sounds gross. :)

Not sure how much the FertileCM and green tea extract tablets had to do w/ this either but I stopped them just prior to getting the blood tests from my Dr. and won't take either again. I just started being super crazy & bitchy hormonal, I was breaking out for like weeks at a time and 2 months had AF's w/in 1 -2 weeks of the last AF. My breaking point was testing for O w/ opk's and starting AF on my O day instead. I was still O, just way wacky timing. It was like every other month I'd have a normal cycle. I haven't even been doing this for two long but it was weird cuz after the wacky close AF I'd have a normal 14/15 day O cycle right after.

I first called my OBGYN abut my cycles and he ordered blood tests. When TSH level came back high, he sent me to my primary physician to finish up. She checked my thyroid again w/ fasting and ultimately found out about my hypothyroidism and that my iron stores were low. So I'm now taking iron and thyroid meds. I just emailed my OBGYN and he said I can go in if I don't get a BFP in August for fertility meds, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Lola and others really encouraged me to contact my Dr. and I'm so glad I did. I would encourage you to as well, especially if you haven't been to see the Dr. in a while.

[iluvmyman]

B, so sorry about your little animal! I hope she is doing ok. Poor thing, I hate to see little ones have to get stitches....but in a way, it teaches them to try to be more vigilant. All I have to say is, "BE CAREFUL! You don't want to have to go get STITCHES again, do you?" Or, when they have a cut or some little minor boo-boo that they are freaking about, I say, "Oh well, I guess if you think it's that bad, we'll have to go get STITCHES." And they are all, Oh, it's totally fine now, mommy. LOL
But seriously, hope you all are ok, it is never fun to be in the ER and watch your child get sewn up!:suprise:

And I hope you are right about the weight gain when pg. I am going to have to watch it like a hawk, like calorie count and stuff. GAH. Strangely, I was invited to a chix-only pool party the other day (from and interesting older group of ladies I know in town) and was the smallest one there, save one young girl (23) who was a rail. She was so self-conscious of all of us vicious older ladies with nice thunder thighs talking shit about her that she kept her cover up on all day. Bwahahahah!

SO glad to always hear about boys coming from Clomid. I might actually bust out the ew again. :think:

DD2 threw the infant car seat down the stairs when DS1 was heading up them at about 18 moths or so I guess, I don't remember. No one was home and my DH was out of town. He had an open gash on his forehead and I could see way down into the wound. I was totally freaking and had no insurance at that time. On the way to the hospital DS1 put his hands up in the air and started saying Weeeeee!!!! Weeeee!!! Like on a roller coaster. He had never in his life done this nor had my other children. I thought he was brain damaged for sure. Anyway, he wasn't. I had to hold him down to stitch his forehead. He also went in for biting through under his lip when he was balancing on a chair at 2ish. For some reason he did and still loves to dangerously balance on things. He hates rides where he's out of control but loves to perch on things. Unfortunately, he went through a stage where he had a ginormous noggin and no balance, he fell constantly. The good news is he has mostly grown into his head and he has a cool scar like Harry Potter. :)

[TTC5]

Thought my sore throat was ok today but nope it seems to be getting worse now feeling quite yukkie, praying it is a sign of pregnancy lol.... can only hope lol

[iluvmyman]

Glad I'm not the only one, 3pnb! Denial it is, then. I think that is the best strategy at this point also!

B, I'm just about 2 or 3dpo now (no attempt, of course), so I expect AF midmonth, then will take the Clomid and go for it next cycle. Should be Oing around 7/31 or the first of the month.....RIGHT WHEN MY MOTHER IS IN TOWN. F&%K ALL. I would say that at 35 years old, and with a year of fertility bullcrap, I should be ok with telling her to enjoy a movie while we go do it, but alas, I just cannot handle that....so we will be maybe doing some early morning lovin.'

But I am getting a bit more excited now that I saw my dr and we have a "plan." I think I may do more boy-friendly stuff this month to counter the cm-drying/girl-swaying effects of the Clomid.

LOL about your mom. You go on girl w/ your baby making self! So hoping Clomid gets that BFP!!

[iluvmyman]

And ya, DD2s are programmed to be nuts so they get some attention, I guess. My DH thinks mine is the reincarnation of Chris Farley. We have seen this child try to zipper up a bag with such odd force that she catapults herself out of the bedroom door, looking like someone tossed her out of the bar, which sends us into hysterics. Once, I saw her SLIDE headfirst across an aisle of the grocery store when she tripped....all I saw was the sliding though. And my DD2 can CHUG beverages like a seasoned frat boy, and a cooler sense of humor than most of them, too. We are like HOLY HELL will break loose when this blonde testicle-crusher goes to college.

My dd2 is 7 next week and a beautiful destructive terror! Rotting her brain w/ the Wii, Ipod, Computer or tv is my only relief w/ her destructive ways. She has moved back into tantrums at almost 7 too. Maybe it is DD2's. I know someone else who had an amazing DD1 like myself and DD2 was very difficult.

[iluvmyman]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

For reals. It's a little ridiculous, the need for junk. I mean what is that?!?! We're having carnitas for dinner with guac and salsa and all the good stuff, and all I want to eat is tortilla chips with cheese melted on top. Lots of cheese. Like, maybe a full pound :bigsmile:

(sorry for the dairy porn there to those of you avoiding calcium...)

LOL on the dairy porn, B!

I've heard you crave what your body's missing so it might be loving that calcuim and saying ummm hello, where are you taking my salt I've grown to accustomed to. :)

[iluvmyman]

Jen my DD2 turned 2 in May. She's been a hot mess since she started walking, really... today at the grocery store she asked me for a candy bar in the check-out, and I told her no. So she sweetly said "Ok, Mama" then turned around and asked the complete stranger "Puh-leeeeese, sir, wud you buy dis candy fo' me?" right in front of my face. Clearly I need to work on her and the concept of stranger-danger.

TTC5 I wish mine got bigger with weight gain! It all goes to my hips and thighs. Waaaaaah.

OMG, B! That is fricking Hilarious and I shared it w/ DH. That is so A-dorable! You might be in for some trouble w/ her for sure. I'd tell you stories about my DD2, but it would make you weep! :)

[iluvmyman]

TTC5 I wish mine got bigger with weight gain! It all goes to my hips and thighs. Waaaaaah.

Don't forget the stomach. Hips, thighs, ass and that wonderful sweet ol' muffin top! :) No boobs for me either, I have to be pretty prego to get those nice boobs and not these pancakes or deflated balloons I have on my chest. I saggy A-Cup, like WTF!!! That's just not even fair, what benefit did i get at all in life in the boob dept. Good thing DH's a butt guy....oh yeah, that looks like crap too. :) Ahhhhhh, getting older is so much fun. What happened to the days when I was asked if I was anorexic. :)

[ELP]

this cycle i am not seeing any ewcm...let alone any mucus for that sake.....am on cd 17 already and no +ves....
wonder when i will O...:( i usually get good cm....what is drying me up...no change in supps
.Cemas I noticed that when I started my supps I had massive ewcm, then gradually with no change it got less and less each month, I added co-q10 and royal jelly this month and had zero! ewcm. I think that alternating the known effective supps each month will stop our bodies getting used to the supps and keep a fresh new source of ewcm each time if that makes sense?? So, EPO one month, fish oil the next month, flaxseed the next month etc, any thoughts anyone...

[ELP]

This thread has so much going on!!!!

Lola, my friend has 4 children and her only son was conceived on clomid;) Her girls were all natural, maybe it was the change over all which got him??? Definately top up your ewcm with a bit of robitusen and EW maybe!

5, glad your DD is ok, its horrible when they get hurt isn't it.

All ladies good luck:luck:!!!!!!

[Plum3]

So the trick then is to use the ew's or preseed and get the CM going as much as you can to counter act that. twins would be great I just think that baby stage would seem to fly by w/ 2 and not get to appreciate it as much. I wish they would stay baby's for longer, but baby's that sleep through the night, of coarse. :) I hate every day that goes by and they are 1 day older. It goes that much quicker when you have other children too since you are just busier than the days when you could sit on the couch all day and hold your baby.


Argh, you took the words right out of my mouth. I feel like DD2 has grown up so much quicker than DD1. I feel bad sometimes for not just sitting with her and enjoying her be little. I just wish there was more time to get everything done and enjoy my girls more while they are still small.

[Plum3]

Bec, Lola and the girls recommended I go in to the Dr. after a couple jacked up cycles and AF's really close to each other, and I found out I have hypothyroidism. I would say that a check-up couldn't hurt.

I have to see a fertility specialist before we TTC anyway so he will do all the pre work up bloods like I've had done previously. I have regular thyroid blood tests as I developed hyperthyroidism during DD2's pregnancy. And both my mum and nan have it too. Not looking good for me!

[Layla]

ZB I dont have high blood pressure, but everybody else in my family from both mum and dad's side does. So I know it is my girl friendly diet - no salt very little meat, a lot of good carbs (and some bad ones) and fruit and veg that has contributed to that. One year of this diet would be too much for me I would not be able to handle it. There is no way I will allow myself to contribute to my own early death. The 9 fruit and veg is good for you only if you are not drinking juice like crazy and then counting all as part of your 9. My dietician says you only count 1 glass of juice as one serving of fruit, if you have another one you canot count that as part of your serving of fruit. Everyone should have 7 serves of fruit and veg per day anyway 5 veg 2 fruit (to be exact). I like vegies so I usually do have 5 in day but the meat the salt the fat it is really bothering me.

Iluv - thank you for sharing. I went to c my dr (GP only) today. She sent me for a blood test which I will do next week. I was low in iodine when pregnant with DD2 and had to take supplements. So if I was told I had thyroid problems I would not be surprised. I really hope not though, that would be hard. I think I would just give up on TTC if it did happen, so wow good on you for still trying.

Good luck all sounds like a busy month for you all.

[begonia]

Weird, I would've killed for another boy and was in tears about it a lot, but time is healing me a little bit too I think from losing DS2. I just can't seem to get that fire lit like it was under my butt. I'm trying though. :)
:hugs: I'm glad you feel like you're healing through time Iluv. You bring such a positive attitude to this forum that one would never guess what you've been through in the past months. FX you get that sticky, healthy bean soon!

[begonia]

Ahhh, I liked blissful ignorance so much better. :)

Amen to that!!!!

[begonia]

Don't forget the stomach. Hips, thighs, ass and that wonderful sweet ol' muffin top! :) No boobs for me either, I have to be pretty prego to get those nice boobs and not these pancakes or deflated balloons I have on my chest. I saggy A-Cup, like WTF!!! That's just not even fair, what benefit did i get at all in life in the boob dept. Good thing DH's a butt guy....oh yeah, that looks like crap too. :) Ahhhhhh, getting older is so much fun. What happened to the days when I was asked if I was anorexic. :)

Me too, me too!!! To all of this ... LOL. The a-cup wasn't so bad when I was a size 2, but an a-cup with the curves on my lower half?!!? LOL! Good times.

DD2's are clearly trouble :bigsmile: How funny is it that all of ours are crazy little people?!?!

Iluv, do you think my body is missing any nutrients from Starburst and Skittles? I hope so, because they have practically become a food group for me too :bigsmile:

[begonia]

ELP, I think the alternating supps could be a good idea. We need a guinea pig to try it!

Layla, good luck with all the tests.... hope it turns out that you're a-ok.

Bec, I know, the 2nd baby just flies by doesn't it?!? I had mine 3.5 years apart though so by the time I had DD2 DD1 was more a preschooler, and it wasn't so hard since she didn't really "need" me to hold her, etc all the time. I can't imagine having them any closer. DD2 and DC3 will be 2 months shy of 3 years apart, and to me that seems sooo close in age, LOL! Glad to know you'll get a workup preTTC! That'll ease your mind for sure.

[babydes56]

Hi ladies, i'm getting so lazy to log on so sorry if i pop in & out i'm sure after 12wks i'll be better at communicating. I've actually gone to the stage where i'm not in mood to chat to some friends over the phone & i'm usually one to chat forever..

Anyway just thought i'd tell you that Alestis prediction are based on what info she gets & if she gets wrong info then she's likely to give wrong prediction. I had aan abdominal scan & i asked the tech to point out on my belly where the baby was & it was to my right & the pictures i was given showed baby on right side. Alestis says the image is the opposite of what you see which isnt correct in my case because i made sure i asked the tech & my pictures are a true reflection of what's happening inside my uterus. Anyway i've sent her the latest ones so lets hear what she says. She does say though that you have to ask the tech if the pictures are in reverse etc.

[skrimpy]

Gotten behind on things again ladies... suppose I should just get used to that for awhile :p You gals are so chatty! I had tons of pages to get through so please forgive me if I missed anything :p

Re: Moon theory - I know a lot of ladies hold to it but I have NOT found that it has held up for my kids. I worry more about diet/supps and a bit about timing, rather than the moon or ions and things.

Spicy - I didn't sway with my new baby, she was a total surprise. But I can see where factors swayed for her - we had a 3 day cutoff with her, and I was a few weeks into a new exercise routine and was losing a lot of weight and trimming of baby fat. I did sway with our DC4 and that sway was successful. I really do think that swaying makes a difference.

Layla - welcome to the thread! I love the high everything approach to blue sways :) Sending you lots of blue dust! Are you charting now to get a feel for your cycles?

iluv - keeping FX for you

ELP - Congrats!!! Sending stick blue bean vibes your way :)

Alexis - ((hugs)) on AF. I think the soy can be responsible for pulling down EWCM and also could sway towards girl. I know the feeling of wanting twins :) Have you tried yams and other foods that maybe increase chances of twins?

baby - ((hugs)) remember that an early scan may be wrong! Can't wait to see your nub shot and your anatomy scan!

3PNB - how exciting to be able to be with your friend in the delivery room. So amazing to see a new life come into the world.

Tink - so glad your cycles are looking good to gear up for TTC!

begonia - sorry your holiday wasn't as relaxed as it should have been :p Those wild things keep us on our toes ;) Also sorry to hear your friend's comment - she probably thought she was helping, being encouraging kwim? I really wish people would learn to keep their mouths shut about gender, though.

Lola - I know that muscle mass is def denser than fat, so if you've put on muscle and feel good then that could probably account for the weight. Remember with swaying that a little bulk is a good thing for blue :) I agree w/ Begonia, too, you may not gain as much pg this time around, esp. if you're already well-nourished.

TTC5 - Keeping FX for you girl, remember you're still early in the DPO!

Things with Me: Had my 6 week postpartum appt. yesterday and that went really well. I was a little dissapointed because I was hoping to get the OK to start an exercise routine again. But I had a little postpartum bleeding episode this week (after my bleeding had been done for two weeks), pretty sure due to stress as it was just a touch of red then gone. My midwife said this can be normal but she suggests not starting the exercise routine for at least a couple more weeks to give my body more healing time. So I am just doing kegels and tummy tightening stuff that's pretty low-key. I weighed in at 158lbs so I would like to lose around 28lbs before my cycles resume. That was a little discouraging too, but DH keeps reminding me that my body isn't going to drop the baby weight as quickly now at 29 as it did when I had my first at 19! And I know that I probably won't get my cycles back until at least 8-9 months postpartum so really, I have time :p

Oh, I am also keeping up a little journal of my goals for losing the baby weight and preparing for our sway :) I've only made two entries thus far but hope to get more up. Here's the first entry :D http://blog.getting-pregnant.com/weekly-fitness-report-introducing-us/

[babydes56]

Skrimpy, i hear you about losing baby weight but just take it easy for a while. I'm already thinking about how i intend to lose it all lool. By the way i've looked on IG & the predictions are all 50/50 so i'm more chilled about it now than i was a few days ago. Also i've reminded myself that it took me ages to conceive so i should be grateful for whatever i get as long as the baby's healthy. I think we get caught up with so much that we forget the real things that matter in life.

[babydes56]

Lola, are you going to get your cycles on clomid monitored?

TTC5, cold like symptoms are an early preg since so FX

[babydes56]

I have to see a fertility specialist before we TTC anyway so he will do all the pre work up bloods like I've had done previously. I have regular thyroid blood tests as I developed hyperthyroidism during DD2's pregnancy. And both my mum and nan have it too. Not looking good for me!

Will you be taking clomid again if your cycle changes from ovulating on your own. I really hope you dont have to & everything works out naturally. Did i read here that thyroid meds sway blue?

[babydes56]

You are probably right, baby. :) This has been mentioned before but have thought of a girls name you can get excited about to help ease into the thoughts of the baby being a girl just in case? It really helped me mellow out and thinking a girl wouldn't be so bad. Of coarse I'd take a healthy anything at this point after the loss of DS2. I figure my odds are a girl after 2 boys in a row anyway and 9 servings of fruit and veggies is hard. :) I wish I had more years and a more willing DH to just keep on having babies. :)

I havent thought of boy/girl names at all, i wanted DH to name baby because i chose our last daughter's name. I'm more chilled now about the prediction because there's mixed mesgs about how they read the scan imagine.

[begonia]

Skrimpy you did a great job catching up, I think! I do think the older we get the harder it is to lose the baby weight. I know with DD1 it was almost instant, except for about 7lbs that stuck around while I was bf'ing. This time around I'll be 33 and I was 27 then, so I fully expect it to be more difficult. Glad that overall the postpartum check-up went well though!

Babydes I was looking at some Ramzi stuff yesterday too and it really does seem like almost every other early predicition thing ... 50/50. I wouldn't worry about it a bit. That little bean can absolutely be your son.

We have a boy name because we always have, LOL, but a 3rd girl name is going to be hard for us. I do think it would help if I had one I loved but to be honest I'm just not that into picking out a name yet for some reason. I think once my friends know I'm pregnant that topic will be way more fun though. One of my friends is just desperate for a 3rd (her DH is still unsure) and she is all over baby names, so I know she'll be fun to talk about it with.

[3Pink1Blue]

B- "Puh-leeeeese, sir" lmao, yep she's going to go far :)

Iluv - yeah my dd1 did not prepare me for dd2 lol Yep hips, thighs and muffin top here too, and don't get me started on the boobs, so tragic.

Baby - if you believe it right side = boy! Glad you're calm about it and I agree, it's all about a healthy baby :)

Skrimpy, glad your 6 wk went well but bummer for no exercise. Soon enough :)

Not much going on here, still trying to feed my poor starving body. I'm so detached from all this right now, I'm positive that this is all going to be over any second so no point making plans or being excited. DH and I haven't talked names and always say "if" when referring to things. We have decided that if I'm still so detached at the 20 wk scan (if we get there) we'll find out the gender to help me bond. I hate feeling like this.
On a happier note I just got the word they are going to start my friends induction today so we should have a baby tomorrow!! So excited, I guess I should pack a bag :)

[babydes56]

There are a few boy/girl names i like but none stand out so i just havent really thought much about it. I also want to give DH a chance to name this baby so i'm leaving it up to him to decide.

I'm not bothered about theory now & actually regret ever asking because it made me upset & question whether i should find at my 20wk scan, ignorance is bliss

[babydes56]

3PNB, sorry you feeling detached & i kinda felt that way until i saw the heartbeat so i'm sure next week things will change for you. You probably unconsciously detaching because of what happened the last time & maybe when you hear all's well you'll be fine. Yay for the up coming birth, it will be good for you. My work collegue's daughter's just gone into labour today, she's 9 days overdue & guess what she's still been having morning, afternoon & evening sickness can you believe it so i hear she cant wait to give birth

[LolaInLove]

Bec, thanks for the reassurance about the Clomid. I am pretty convinced now that Clomid really doesn't sway, but it *could* affect it somewhat if there is no cm or no fake cm added, so I am def doing that now. I hope all pre-testing goes well for you!

Begonia, you guys are killing me with your junk food cravings....I always have that too. I think my body wants to stock up on fat right away as it knows it is going to pummel me with m/s shortly after. I love your attitude about not freaking about the kids, and WOW I hope your friend's kiddo is doing well! (And your munchkin, of course.) My DD2 just turned 6 in March. She turns to us last night and says, "Mom, why do they have to make chicken nuggets with buttholes?" DH, DD1, and I all buckled in hysterics. Turns out someone told her they make chicken mcnuggets with the chicken's buttholes, which I am sure is not far from the truth. (Have you guys ever seen SuperSize Me?) But yes, she is a trip. I frequently tell them they can't grow any more and need to stay little forever, and they are like noooooo, we want to grow up! I do hate the thought of not having enough time with them. I am ALREADY getting all anxious about them going off to college.....but at least I cherish every day. I didn't always have that attitude when I was a harried mom with 2 little ones.

[LolaInLove]

Skrimpy, i hear you about losing baby weight but just take it easy for a while. I'm already thinking about how i intend to lose it all lool. By the way i've looked on IG & the predictions are all 50/50 so i'm more chilled about it now than i was a few days ago. Also i've reminded myself that it took me ages to conceive so i should be grateful for whatever i get as long as the baby's healthy. I think we get caught up with so much that we forget the real things that matter in life.

AMEN, sister! And if your tech says right side, that is supposed to be a boy! But regardless, all that does matter is your healthy baby. I am going to have to remember this also if I get pg....after all we've been through, I need to be grateful for any beautiful life that I am given.

Nope, not having any monitoring.....she just said pop them pills and dtd every other day starting day 10 through day 18 and call her when I know what happened. I mean, she said I don't really need it, but it may help a good egg pop out (or may not), and that it is really unknown if it helps egg quality much, but it will definitely make me pop a solid and mature egg out. I am getting a little more excited, and am glad I am feeling that way. I've had the weirdest time since my m/c in May....a lot of bummed days, not to mention hearing the ex's wife is pg and due when I was. BOO! She is 16 wks now, should be hearing the girls come home announcing gender in the next 4 weeks. Super.

Skrimpy, awesome blog! Glad you are doing well. I totally think swaying does have an effect also. I hope you are right about the bulk helping. I certainly don't look as "fat" as I used to, which is what shocked me with the weight, so I bet I've turned a good bit of the fat to muscle. Thanks for the input! Is your old sway on here? I think I remember reading it on IG. Sorry to hear you have to wait to exercise, but a little more healing never hurt.

TTC5, I hope you feel better soon! FX you have the early preggo sickies like I usually do!

[LolaInLove]

3pnb, I am sorry you still feel detached. As I said before, I will be the exact same way if I get pg. Just try to stay positive....nothing to worry about until you have something to worry about, right! It's so interesting how our minds and hearts try to protect us by creating detachments....which I've been experiencing myself as you guys have read.

[LolaInLove]

1 year at this is a really crappy 1 year anniversary. :) I've started heavily looking into swaying the beginning of March and have had a few attempts but a year....that blows my friend. I think I would be very lightly swaying too. I don't want to take any real breaks since I lost so much time w/ my cycles (although I did still O it was just all over the place) and at 35 I really would like to just have another chance at holding a new life again. Who knows though I'm all over the place w/ what I want but I'd really still like to have another boy, my focus just isn't 120% like it was. Weird, I would've killed for another boy and was in tears about it a lot, but time is healing me a little bit too I think from losing DS2. I just can't seem to get that fire lit like it was under my butt. I'm trying though. :)

Ah, the joy of being 35. I am glad to hear that time has healed you a little bit. It is probably much healthier for you to go into ttc with a laid back and "just want a healthy baby" attitude. You just gotta give swaying what you got, that's all I can do at this point also. Getting pregnant and keeping the baby will seem like the greatest gift ever at this point.....so funny how my attitude has changed from a year ago. Back last July, I was studying IG like I was taking the most important exam in my life, and thinking, pffft- this conception thing is no big deal, just worried about how to do this bsf shit! And here I am a year later, not giving a crap about bsf and about to take Clomid. Ah well, such is life! Don't worry if you don't have a fire.....sometimes I think all we just need is a nice simmering log burning under our butts to get along and be ok versus a roaring fire. We'll get there!

[babydes56]

Ok so you taking the clomid cd3-7 then. I think they say you should expect to ovulate a few days later so i'd start those opk's sooner rather than later. I hear cm is only really affected when you take huge doses of clomid so talking from my last experience of taking 50mg i dont think my cm was less than normal. I REALLY hope it works this time, cant wait to talk about our symptoms etc. I bet you hope your ex has baby girl, right? I too hope so.

[LolaInLove]

Ok so you taking the clomid cd3-7 then. I think they say you should expect to ovulate a few days later so i'd start those opk's sooner rather than later. I hear cm is only really affected when you take huge doses of clomid so talking from my last experience of taking 50mg i dont think my cm was less than normal. I REALLY hope it works this time, cant wait to talk about our symptoms etc. I bet you hope your ex has baby girl, right? I too hope so.

HELL YES I want him to have another girl! LOL He hates women and thinks we are worthless....info that I would have appreciated knowing before we got married. He was one of those sneaky ones that acted all sweet until he "got" me and then the real him came out. But, I'm sure it will be a boy.

Yep, day 3-7. I read you O anywhere from 5-10 days later, but I think we may dtd every other day like my dr suggested starting day 10, but good idea, I will start opks right away. I bet it will make me O on like cd10 or something. I know, I hope it works, too! Glad to hear the cm doesn't get too affected. We will likely do the preseed or ew anyway....I don't know if I can do ew every other day, might get sick of that shit after a couple times and just do preseed. Did you gals start a pg thread for the blue crew preggos?

Oh, and have you seen FB? Holly is having her baby in a week.....Sarah told me that Nicole had a m/c and is trying again right away, poor gal. She's had it rough too.

[babydes56]

I hope too that he has another girl, arent we cruel? I just couldnt keep ew up there, i dont know how others have managed to do so. Yes i did see Holly's post about c-section on the 14th. Poor Sarah i feel for her because she really has a had a hard time, it must be soul destroying.

[LolaInLove]

I hope too that he has another girl, arent we cruel? I just couldnt keep ew up there, i dont know how others have managed to do so. Yes i did see Holly's post about c-section on the 14th. Poor Sarah i feel for her because she really has a had a hard time, it must be soul destroying.

I can only keep a little ew up there, but I guess it doesn't take much. I may alternate, just see what I'm in the mood for. I know, Nicole has tried everything, been at it longer than we have I think. Sarah is still on her break also, been a long road for her too.

[babydes56]

I hope it works out for Nicole/Sarah in the end. So you going to dtd every other day, at least you'll have a spring/summer baby unlike my Feb baby.

[LolaInLove]

I *think* so....still trying to decide how we want to do it. A tiny part of me wants to try the one or two shot deal, but I really think it is best to try every other day. I do want to just get pg at this point, and hopefully with my body being TOTALLY different than when I had girls, and the supps and all, I have made myself a boy-friendly environment. I can't remember....did you dtd every day? I gotta look up your sway again. Oh, and I saw the new grads thread....hope I can join you all soon!

[begonia]

Not much going on here, still trying to feed my poor starving body. I'm so detached from all this right now, I'm positive that this is all going to be over any second so no point making plans or being excited. DH and I haven't talked names and always say "if" when referring to things. We have decided that if I'm still so detached at the 20 wk scan (if we get there) we'll find out the gender to help me bond. I hate feeling like this.
On a happier note I just got the word they are going to start my friends induction today so we should have a baby tomorrow!! So excited, I guess I should pack a bag :)

Hugs, lady ... I can totally see why you're feeling that way, and I really hope next week eases it some but can understand why even that might not do much. I think finding out at 20 weeks is a great idea if you're still not quite attached to it; hopefully seeing a nice healthy little one, either gender, will help you enjoy the last half. I know this is your last baby and I'd hate for you to have to spend the entire pregnancy without really getting to enjoy it. FX you get there. But vent here anytime, you know we're all going to do our best to support and encourage.

And HOORAY for the new baby coming!!! How exciting to be part of that; what a special friendship the two of you must have. That's awesome.

[begonia]

Begonia, you guys are killing me with your junk food cravings....I always have that too. I think my body wants to stock up on fat right away as it knows it is going to pummel me with m/s shortly after. I love your attitude about not freaking about the kids, and WOW I hope your friend's kiddo is doing well! (And your munchkin, of course.) My DD2 just turned 6 in March. She turns to us last night and says, "Mom, why do they have to make chicken nuggets with buttholes?" DH, DD1, and I all buckled in hysterics. Turns out someone told her they make chicken mcnuggets with the chicken's buttholes, which I am sure is not far from the truth. (Have you guys ever seen SuperSize Me?) But yes, she is a trip. I frequently tell them they can't grow any more and need to stay little forever, and they are like noooooo, we want to grow up! I do hate the thought of not having enough time with them. I am ALREADY getting all anxious about them going off to college.....but at least I cherish every day. I didn't always have that attitude when I was a harried mom with 2 little ones.

That.is.awesome!!!! Tell me you're writing all of those down! I was worried all the crazy talk would end when they hit 5 or so and I'm glad to hear it keeps on coming; kids are hilarious! I am so with you on telling them to stay little. Life is so good for them now and they just don't even know it. Here's hoping they don't try to grow up too fast. Can you believe one day we have to send them away?!?! Waaah! Waaah 'cause I'll miss them and double waaah 'cause college by that time will be crazy expensive if it keeps going up the way it has ...

[begonia]

HELL YES I want him to have another girl! LOL He hates women and thinks we are worthless....info that I would have appreciated knowing before we got married. He was one of those sneaky ones that acted all sweet until he "got" me and then the real him came out. But, I'm sure it will be a boy.


I was wondering about this too ... but you know, for the sake of that child let's hope he has a boy. Sounds like he has been a less than stellar dad to your girls and heaven knows girls need a good man in their life, in the form of a loving father. Maybe we can hope for a ugly, unathletic, dumb boy to ease the pain of him having a son?!?! :wink:

[begonia]

Lola I would totally DTD every other day .... I really, really don't think timing sways much if at all; especially after I DTD 24 hours apart I read as much as I could about it here and IG and studies again. Granted I would rather have had 48 hours between my attempts just b/c it's the formula, and it's hard to get it out of your head, but whatever, if I have a girl I don't think that will be the reason. Many, many sways with "perfect" timing (and diet, for that matter) have resulted in girls. I think swaying works for sure but a girl sperm can still get there first in spite of all we've done, KWIM? Don't sweat timing. Get yourself pregnant!

So sad to hear about Sarah and Nicole. That sucks. I was really hoping both of them were blissfully pg at this point. Can't believe Holly is about to have her baby!!! Wow. It does go fast.

[iluvmyman]

Argh, you took the words right out of my mouth. I feel like DD2 has grown up so much quicker than DD1. I feel bad sometimes for not just sitting with her and enjoying her be little. I just wish there was more time to get everything done and enjoy my girls more while they are still small.

It's really hard to balance w/ multiples. I liked getting up at night sometimes to just have that 1 on 1 time w/ the baby. You almost need the littlest ones to get bigger so they can mesh w/ the family better but it just goes by way too fast. with the 1st, you want them to get bigger so you can see them do each new stage and compare your kids milestones w/ others but w/ the rest DC, you just want them to stay little longer. It's funny how that is.

[LolaInLove]

I was wondering about this too ... but you know, for the sake of that child let's hope he has a boy. Sounds like he has been a less than stellar dad to your girls and heaven knows girls need a good man in their life, in the form of a loving father. Maybe we can hope for a ugly, unathletic, dumb boy to ease the pain of him having a son?!?! :wink:

That is a good point....but I think he may torture and make a son crazy just like his dad did to him. May be better for a girl to survive in that world of crazy? I don't know. All I can hope for is that I don't lose my mind when I hear the news if it's a boy!

And OH YEA, you were in the old crew! Kinda crazy that a few of them have had/are soon having their boys. I still wonder what ever happened with Maz on occasion....what her bub came out as after all that worry, bless her.

[LolaInLove]

Lola I would totally DTD every other day .... I really, really don't think timing sways much if at all; especially after I DTD 24 hours apart I read as much as I could about it here and IG and studies again. Granted I would rather have had 48 hours between my attempts just b/c it's the formula, and it's hard to get it out of your head, but whatever, if I have a girl I don't think that will be the reason. Many, many sways with "perfect" timing (and diet, for that matter) have resulted in girls. I think swaying works for sure but a girl sperm can still get there first in spite of all we've done, KWIM? Don't sweat timing. Get yourself pregnant!



I thinking the same thing, lady! After all, my dr knows it is a good timing sequence for both getting pg and creating a healthy sperm supply. You are so right about the timing not mattering. Zillions of boys are made with dtd twice a day, I am sure!

[iluvmyman]

I have to see a fertility specialist before we TTC anyway so he will do all the pre work up bloods like I've had done previously. I have regular thyroid blood tests as I developed hyperthyroidism during DD2's pregnancy. And both my mum and nan have it too. Not looking good for me!

Those darn genetics! :) I don't know anyone off hand that has thyroid problems in my family. I cut out calcium so severely on IG diet and upped my potassium/sodium dramatically. Not sure if that could have spearheaded my thyroid issues but I'll never know. I'm very healthy so I was shocked to find that out, relieved to have a cause but shocked.

GL on your appt. I'm sure the reason you have to see a specialist sucks but I'm glad you get great info before ttc so you know how best get your body ready. GL!

[LolaInLove]

Oh, and HAPPY DELIVERY TIME, 3PNB!!!! Lifting a little whisper of prayer up to the sky for all to go well!

[iluvmyman]

ZB I dont have high blood pressure, but everybody else in my family from both mum and dad's side does. So I know it is my girl friendly diet - no salt very little meat, a lot of good carbs (and some bad ones) and fruit and veg that has contributed to that. One year of this diet would be too much for me I would not be able to handle it. There is no way I will allow myself to contribute to my own early death. The 9 fruit and veg is good for you only if you are not drinking juice like crazy and then counting all as part of your 9. My dietician says you only count 1 glass of juice as one serving of fruit, if you have another one you canot count that as part of your serving of fruit. Everyone should have 7 serves of fruit and veg per day anyway 5 veg 2 fruit (to be exact). I like vegies so I usually do have 5 in day but the meat the salt the fat it is really bothering me.

Iluv - thank you for sharing. I went to c my dr (GP only) today. She sent me for a blood test which I will do next week. I was low in iodine when pregnant with DD2 and had to take supplements. So if I was told I had thyroid problems I would not be surprised. I really hope not though, that would be hard. I think I would just give up on TTC if it did happen, so wow good on you for still trying.

Good luck all sounds like a busy month for you all.

You would give up on ttc if you had thyroid issues? It's really just a small pill every day and finding the right dosage which you would need to do anyway. Once you get it sorted out there are no issues of ttc. I've been on it for a couple of weeks and had a normal cycle. The proof will be next time I O, but things are better already and it's safe to take w/ pregnant and nursing. GL to you!

[iluvmyman]

:hugs: I'm glad you feel like you're healing through time Iluv. You bring such a positive attitude to this forum that one would never guess what you've been through in the past months. FX you get that sticky, healthy bean soon!

Awww, thank B. I don't like to bring it up too much and hope no one thinks I'm looking for sympathy it's just a big part of my life good and bad. I know so many others here have had losses too. I've definitely been all over the board w/ swaying going from wanting another boy only, to being ok w/ a girl, just wanting a baby, maybe I shouldn't have anymore children and back and forth. I just hope I can be happy if I get pregnant again and excited for creating life w/ no GD, but who knows. Emotional Roller Coaster. Thanks for riding w/ me, it will be a long ride for sure w/ lots of ups and downs and lots of corkscrews. :)

[iluvmyman]

Me too, me too!!! To all of this ... LOL. The a-cup wasn't so bad when I was a size 2, but an a-cup with the curves on my lower half?!!? LOL! Good times.

DD2's are clearly trouble :bigsmile: How funny is it that all of ours are crazy little people?!?!

Iluv, do you think my body is missing any nutrients from Starburst and Skittles? I hope so, because they have practically become a food group for me too :bigsmile:

I don't even have the benefits of big boobs w/ my poochy tummy for like my shirts to hang better and not skin tight making my stomach stick out more. I don't want to buy a lot of clothes either since I plan on being pregnant soon. I think I have about 4 months to hide my pregnancy w/ my current stomach size. :) At some point bigger lower 1/2 and small boobs will just make me look awkward, at least I'm tall.

I love the DD2 theory though and that I'm not the only one. We love her, but she has been a challenge to say the least. Good thing she's cute. :)

There is no way that a Starbursts and Skittles diet could result in low nutrients. Don't you sweat it even a little. :) I'm going w/ that theory since I live on a mostly liquid diet of Starbucks and redbull. Could thing I've conceived 2 DS's on that diet or I might be sweating it a little bit more. :) Maybe I'll start my own forum with the Starbucks/Redbull diet to ttc sons. J/K!

[Alexis2007]

Wow! It's so hard to keep up with this thread! lol

So, yeah, AF showed today. Rethinking strategy now. I think I'm gonna get some preseed mixed with some bs this time. Still trying to decide about taking the soy this time. It didn't mess up my cycle at all. O'ed early actually. It *may* have messed up my ewcm, but idk that for sure. I know for a lot of people it gave them tons of ewcm! It gave me a VERY strong O, I believe. Have severe O pains for 2 days. I may try it again. What do you ladies think? Maybe it'll be ok with me using the preseed too?

DD2's bday party is Saturday. She turned 2 yesterday! Wondering if it'll be ok to eat some cake and ice cream? Or maybe just the cake? lol

[iluvmyman]

Nice blog Skrimpy! GL to you!!

[iluvmyman]

BTW - Since we have so many BFP's recently I thought I would just give my :twocents: about acupuncture during pregnancy.

I did this during my pregnancy w/ DS2 in the beginning and it was great. As far as being nauseous, my acupuncturist and I had the same experience w/ acupuncture reliving my nausea and allowing me to feel hungry instead. Like I could now understand that nausea was my body's weird way of saying it was hungry, I also had some pulling in my pelvis and the acupuncture relieved that right away and it overall relaxing and gets the blood flowing.

So if you've been considering it, I would recommend it.

[iluvmyman]

Will you be taking clomid again if your cycle changes from ovulating on your own. I really hope you dont have to & everything works out naturally. Did i read here that thyroid meds sway blue?

Not according to what I read about them swaying blue.

[iluvmyman]

I havent thought of boy/girl names at all, i wanted DH to name baby because i chose our last daughter's name. I'm more chilled now about the prediction because there's mixed mesgs about how they read the scan imagine.

I let DH name DS2 and I can't tell you the amount of drama that was and is still caused by that. :) My sister complains her DH likes only plain names....my DH does not have that problem. :) It's scary giving my DH full range and we are trying a group decision at this point (not that we didn't discuss every name though). He's waffling on the boy name but the one he told me he was considering I would totally go for.

I wouldn't think twice about that prediction either and I like what someone said if that theory was concrete Dr.'s would be predicting sex at 7-8 weeks. I'm pretty good about predicting based on the way women carry but some women carry exactly the way the would w/ the opposite sex. By the time the belly is big enough to really tell, women find out w/ U/S anyway.

[TTC5]

Lola, are you going to get your cycles on clomid monitored?

TTC5, cold like symptoms are an early preg since so FX

Thanks, am 8dpo and still have it!

[iluvmyman]

B- "Puh-leeeeese, sir" lmao, yep she's going to go far :)

Iluv - yeah my dd1 did not prepare me for dd2 lol Yep hips, thighs and muffin top here too, and don't get me started on the boobs, so tragic.

Baby - if you believe it right side = boy! Glad you're calm about it and I agree, it's all about a healthy baby :)

Skrimpy, glad your 6 wk went well but bummer for no exercise. Soon enough :)

Not much going on here, still trying to feed my poor starving body. I'm so detached from all this right now, I'm positive that this is all going to be over any second so no point making plans or being excited. DH and I haven't talked names and always say "if" when referring to things. We have decided that if I'm still so detached at the 20 wk scan (if we get there) we'll find out the gender to help me bond. I hate feeling like this.
On a happier note I just got the word they are going to start my friends induction today so we should have a baby tomorrow!! So excited, I guess I should pack a bag :)

LOL 3PNB!!!

Not sure i've picked up enough on you feeling detached. I had that soooo bad throughout DS2's pregnancy (1 more thing to regret for life). He was a complete surprise and I think hormones can play such a huge part in that (i'm hormonal in general). Mine was not for loss reason but I'm scared how I'll feel if I get pregnant again due DS2's death. Not sure what to do about it but it's just no fun at all. I'm really sorry to hear that and I understand completely. GL on the scan decision.

That is so exciting about being in the delivery room. I love having people there and wish I could have everyone I love be a part of it. Dh doesn't feel the same though. :)

[TTC5]

Wow! It's so hard to keep up with this thread! lol

So, yeah, AF showed today. Rethinking strategy now. I think I'm gonna get some preseed mixed with some bs this time. Still trying to decide about taking the soy this time. It didn't mess up my cycle at all. O'ed early actually. It *may* have messed up my ewcm, but idk that for sure. I know for a lot of people it gave them tons of ewcm! It gave me a VERY strong O, I believe. Have severe O pains for 2 days. I may try it again. What do you ladies think? Maybe it'll be ok with me using the preseed too?

DD2's bday party is Saturday. She turned 2 yesterday! Wondering if it'll be ok to eat some cake and ice cream? Or maybe just the cake? lol

Sorry about AF :(

[iluvmyman]

Bec, thanks for the reassurance about the Clomid. I am pretty convinced now that Clomid really doesn't sway, but it *could* affect it somewhat if there is no cm or no fake cm added, so I am def doing that now. I hope all pre-testing goes well for you!

Begonia, you guys are killing me with your junk food cravings....I always have that too. I think my body wants to stock up on fat right away as it knows it is going to pummel me with m/s shortly after. I love your attitude about not freaking about the kids, and WOW I hope your friend's kiddo is doing well! (And your munchkin, of course.) My DD2 just turned 6 in March. She turns to us last night and says, "Mom, why do they have to make chicken nuggets with buttholes?" DH, DD1, and I all buckled in hysterics. Turns out someone told her they make chicken mcnuggets with the chicken's buttholes, which I am sure is not far from the truth. (Have you guys ever seen SuperSize Me?) But yes, she is a trip. I frequently tell them they can't grow any more and need to stay little forever, and they are like noooooo, we want to grow up! I do hate the thought of not having enough time with them. I am ALREADY getting all anxious about them going off to college.....but at least I cherish every day. I didn't always have that attitude when I was a harried mom with 2 little ones.

True that last comment, Lola. :)

[iluvmyman]

AMEN, sister! And if your tech says right side, that is supposed to be a boy! But regardless, all that does matter is your healthy baby. I am going to have to remember this also if I get pg....after all we've been through, I need to be grateful for any beautiful life that I am given.

Nope, not having any monitoring.....she just said pop them pills and dtd every other day starting day 10 through day 18 and call her when I know what happened. I mean, she said I don't really need it, but it may help a good egg pop out (or may not), and that it is really unknown if it helps egg quality much, but it will definitely make me pop a solid and mature egg out. I am getting a little more excited, and am glad I am feeling that way. I've had the weirdest time since my m/c in May....a lot of bummed days, not to mention hearing the ex's wife is pg and due when I was. BOO! She is 16 wks now, should be hearing the girls come home announcing gender in the next 4 weeks. Super.

Skrimpy, awesome blog! Glad you are doing well. I totally think swaying does have an effect also. I hope you are right about the bulk helping. I certainly don't look as "fat" as I used to, which is what shocked me with the weight, so I bet I've turned a good bit of the fat to muscle. Thanks for the input! Is your old sway on here? I think I remember reading it on IG. Sorry to hear you have to wait to exercise, but a little more healing never hurt.

TTC5, I hope you feel better soon! FX you have the early preggo sickies like I usually do!

Hey, maybe you could have wee little internal smile in 4 weeks instead. I would hate that situation and so feel for you!

[TTC5]

I tested fmu 8dpo and bfn. Still early though, right :)

[iluvmyman]

Ah, the joy of being 35. I am glad to hear that time has healed you a little bit. It is probably much healthier for you to go into ttc with a laid back and "just want a healthy baby" attitude. You just gotta give swaying what you got, that's all I can do at this point also. Getting pregnant and keeping the baby will seem like the greatest gift ever at this point.....so funny how my attitude has changed from a year ago. Back last July, I was studying IG like I was taking the most important exam in my life, and thinking, pffft- this conception thing is no big deal, just worried about how to do this bsf shit! And here I am a year later, not giving a crap about bsf and about to take Clomid. Ah well, such is life! Don't worry if you don't have a fire.....sometimes I think all we just need is a nice simmering log burning under our butts to get along and be ok versus a roaring fire. We'll get there!

I love it! Thanks Lola, I'm so glad you're here!!

[cemas]

Ah.yes....i am with you all....my journey has been 2 yrs now from my 1st ivf/pgd....:(....i took the reverse path...never had any issues conceiving and now i sometimes wonder if i will ever be healthy pregnant with a healthy baby....
yeah have come a long way from swaying hard to whatever....just do what you can ...after all there is destiny...we had almost stopped living our lives with don't eat this and that and what not......end result no baby yet and all FAT!

i am trying hard to get on with life and enjoy what we have....but ttc still keeps hauting me now and then.
my 5 yr hold is who distracts me and makes me laugh.....happy lil people. sometime i feel lucky to have her but still want more...

i see the newcomers so excited to get a +opk.....bd etc....which seems like a routine at this point...
Blah blah....sorry to bore u guys....but i know people here who can understand and venting helps at times..:)

[iluvmyman]

HELL YES I want him to have another girl! LOL He hates women and thinks we are worthless....info that I would have appreciated knowing before we got married. He was one of those sneaky ones that acted all sweet until he "got" me and then the real him came out. But, I'm sure it will be a boy.

Yep, day 3-7. I read you O anywhere from 5-10 days later, but I think we may dtd every other day like my dr suggested starting day 10, but good idea, I will start opks right away. I bet it will make me O on like cd10 or something. I know, I hope it works, too! Glad to hear the cm doesn't get too affected. We will likely do the preseed or ew anyway....I don't know if I can do ew every other day, might get sick of that shit after a couple times and just do preseed. Did you gals start a pg thread for the blue crew preggos?

Oh, and have you seen FB? Holly is having her baby in a week.....Sarah told me that Nicole had a m/c and is trying again right away, poor gal. She's had it rough too.

At least you have an excuse. I married DH the 1st time and I thought it was so cute that I got to balance his checkbook for him. Dear Lord, I had no idea what the really meant for my life. I married him again and there is no excuse, I sure has heck can't blame ignorance. :) I do LOVE my Dh though and I've put a lot of work into him, but it hasn't been easy at all and it still a work in progress. The fact that I'm perfect goes w/o saying. :)

[iluvmyman]

I can only keep a little ew up there, but I guess it doesn't take much. I may alternate, just see what I'm in the mood for. I know, Nicole has tried everything, been at it longer than we have I think. Sarah is still on her break also, been a long road for her too.

My DH has said he didn't want to do ew anymore and that he didn't like it. I asked him what exactly he was doing to help me sway then since he is no longer taking supps either. All he has to do it do it doggy style and when I ask him to....awwww, poor guy. WTH! LOL!

[begonia]

That is a good point....but I think he may torture and make a son crazy just like his dad did to him. May be better for a girl to survive in that world of crazy? I don't know. All I can hope for is that I don't lose my mind when I hear the news if it's a boy!

And OH YEA, you were in the old crew! Kinda crazy that a few of them have had/are soon having their boys. I still wonder what ever happened with Maz on occasion....what her bub came out as after all that worry, bless her.

I definitely hope you don't lose you mind if it's a boy ... really it sounds like someone should just sterilize this man :mad: Just remember, better to have no son than to have had one with him, right? What a nightmare.

I really, really hope Maz got her boy after all. I doubt she'll ever go back and post though, especially since most of us are gone and the ol' CBBC thread has no doubt died.

[iluvmyman]

Hugs, lady ... I can totally see why you're feeling that way, and I really hope next week eases it some but can understand why even that might not do much. I think finding out at 20 weeks is a great idea if you're still not quite attached to it; hopefully seeing a nice healthy little one, either gender, will help you enjoy the last half. I know this is your last baby and I'd hate for you to have to spend the entire pregnancy without really getting to enjoy it. FX you get there. But vent here anytime, you know we're all going to do our best to support and encourage.

And HOORAY for the new baby coming!!! How exciting to be part of that; what a special friendship the two of you must have. That's awesome.

I bet being in that birthing room will get you excited for sure 3PNB!

[begonia]

LOL, iluv, to your DH and his contributions to swaying. And of course you're perfect! All of us are, I'm pretty sure!

Alexis sorry about the BFN love! They are never easy. Soy is such a tough call ... good luck making the decision! And happy birthday to your sweet girl! I would have a bit of cake and ice cream, especially if she wants you to join in.

TTC5 fear not the BFN at 8DPO! That day is just for fun, right?!?! Tomorrow has a little more hope but still, even 9 is rare. FX you get it though!!!

OH and Iluv I might try acupuncture if my ms gets crazy ... I forgot about it. I've never done it but a friend of mine had GREAT success with it when TTC.

[iluvmyman]

LOL, iluv, to your DH and his contributions to swaying. And of course you're perfect! All of us are, I'm pretty sure!

Alexis sorry about the BFN love! They are never easy. Soy is such a tough call ... good luck making the decision! And happy birthday to your sweet girl! I would have a bit of cake and ice cream, especially if she wants you to join in.

TTC5 fear not the BFN at 8DPO! That day is just for fun, right?!?! Tomorrow has a little more hope but still, even 9 is rare. FX you get it though!!!

OH and Iluv I might try acupuncture if my ms gets crazy ... I forgot about it. I've never done it but a friend of mine had GREAT success with it when TTC.

Of course we are almost perfect, B :) I need to do that and yoga but I'm broke for the acupuncturist and too lazy for yoga. I was doing great w/ yoga but DD1 had horse riding during the lesson and it's just been busy. I'm kinda scared and embarrassed w/ my weight to go back, plus I'm sort of avoiding commitment right now. I like not being so busy every day. I have counseling tonight too so I can't go. Bummer.

[begonia]

Iluv bummer you can't fit in yoga! It is hard to schedule things for yourself around things for your kids. I wouldn't trade it but man, sometimes I do miss being able to just up and do something. Now it's all about what they have going on or finding child care. DD1 likes to go to the gym with me but only bc she can sit there and play on the ipad w/o DD2 bugging her, LOL!

I am off to read Skrimpy's blog!

[begonia]

Oh and Cemas, vent away! That's definitely one of the reasons we are all here. Keeping my FX you get a BFP soon; you certainly deserve one.

[TTC5]

8dpo bfn but im still holding hope!!

[Tink18]

oh man ILUV you have been through it, I am just sending you tons of love and hoping you get a BFP soon!

[Plum3]

:hugs: I'm glad you feel like you're healing through time Iluv. You bring such a positive attitude to this forum that one would never guess what you've been through in the past months. FX you get that sticky, healthy bean soon!

I agree. Your positive attitude is so encouraging Iluv. I have everything crossed for you :)

[Plum3]

Will you be taking clomid again if your cycle changes from ovulating on your own. I really hope you dont have to & everything works out naturally. Did i read here that thyroid meds sway blue?

The only reason I need Clomid is to make me O so if my cycles keep up like this then I won't even need to see a fertility specialist. I don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world, but here in Australia a OBGYN can only prescribe Clomid.

[Plum3]

Bec, thanks for the reassurance about the Clomid. I am pretty convinced now that Clomid really doesn't sway, but it *could* affect it somewhat if there is no cm or no fake cm added, so I am def doing that now. I hope all pre-testing goes well for you!

Begonia, you guys are killing me with your junk food cravings....I always have that too. I think my body wants to stock up on fat right away as it knows it is going to pummel me with m/s shortly after. I love your attitude about not freaking about the kids, and WOW I hope your friend's kiddo is doing well! (And your munchkin, of course.) My DD2 just turned 6 in March. She turns to us last night and says, "Mom, why do they have to make chicken nuggets with buttholes?" DH, DD1, and I all buckled in hysterics. Turns out someone told her they make chicken mcnuggets with the chicken's buttholes, which I am sure is not far from the truth. (Have you guys ever seen SuperSize Me?) But yes, she is a trip. I frequently tell them they can't grow any more and need to stay little forever, and they are like noooooo, we want to grow up! I do hate the thought of not having enough time with them. I am ALREADY getting all anxious about them going off to college.....but at least I cherish every day. I didn't always have that attitude when I was a harried mom with 2 little ones.

Other than drying up CM I don't see how else Clomid could sway? That's the way I'm thinking and sticking to it anyway. Hopefully the Clomid will give those nice mature eggs a big boost. We were told to BD every second day as well from CD10 onwards.

[Plum3]

Those darn genetics! :) I don't know anyone off hand that has thyroid problems in my family. I cut out calcium so severely on IG diet and upped my potassium/sodium dramatically. Not sure if that could have spearheaded my thyroid issues but I'll never know. I'm very healthy so I was shocked to find that out, relieved to have a cause but shocked.

GL on your appt. I'm sure the reason you have to see a specialist sucks but I'm glad you get great info before ttc so you know how best get your body ready. GL!

Thanks :)

[Plum3]

Wow! It's so hard to keep up with this thread! lol

So, yeah, AF showed today. Rethinking strategy now. I think I'm gonna get some preseed mixed with some bs this time. Still trying to decide about taking the soy this time. It didn't mess up my cycle at all. O'ed early actually. It *may* have messed up my ewcm, but idk that for sure. I know for a lot of people it gave them tons of ewcm! It gave me a VERY strong O, I believe. Have severe O pains for 2 days. I may try it again. What do you ladies think? Maybe it'll be ok with me using the preseed too?

DD2's bday party is Saturday. She turned 2 yesterday! Wondering if it'll be ok to eat some cake and ice cream? Or maybe just the cake? lol

Sorry AF showed :(

[Kris217]

It sure is hard to keep up with when you're not online as much as before! I'm busy looking after Sarah since she snapped her Achilles and ripped it off the muscle. So much goes on in here just in a day i can't afford to miss a day lol.
Anyway i am 3dpo today, have done 2 inseminations so i'm in the 2ww now. Any and all symptoms will be ignored this cycle cos last cycle i swore i was pg due to my sore boobs which i never get! But nope bfn.

[iluvmyman]

I agree. Your positive attitude is so encouraging Iluv. I have everything crossed for you :)

Thanks you guys! I really appreciate it but don't really deserve it. I love being here.

[iluvmyman]

I'm busy looking after Sarah since she snapped her Achilles and ripped it off the muscle. So much goes on in here just in a day i can't afford to miss a day lol.

Oh my goodness, that sounds painful and horrible!

[ams]

Hi all sorry to be a pain and it seems I only come on here when I have a problem but only get Internet on my phone and I hate typing on there!

Well I went for a scan today due to some spotting but they could not see a yolk sac or fetal pole just a gest. Sac I know when I od so I should b about 6 wk 4 days. Should I be worried? Thanks

[TTC5]

Hi all sorry to be a pain and it seems I only come on here when I have a problem but only get Internet on my phone and I hate typing on there!

Well I went for a scan today due to some spotting but they could not see a yolk sac or fetal pole just a gest. Sac I know when I od so I should b about 6 wk 4 days. Should I be worried? Thanks

I don't want to give you false hope but go read my birth story with dd2!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Thanks you guys! I really appreciate it but don't really deserve it. I love being here.

Yes you do!!!!! xx

[SpicyTunaSushi]

8dpo bfn but im still holding hope!!

Definitely there is still hope! What type of test are you using?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Other than drying up CM I don't see how else Clomid could sway? That's the way I'm thinking and sticking to it anyway. Hopefully the Clomid will give those nice mature eggs a big boost. We were told to BD every second day as well from CD10 onwards.

I have heard it can sway boy because it raises testosterone in the female. My gf just had a boy after clomid for 6 months! And her DH had low sperm count.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Cemas I noticed that when I started my supps I had massive ewcm, then gradually with no change it got less and less each month, I added co-q10 and royal jelly this month and had zero! ewcm. I think that alternating the known effective supps each month will stop our bodies getting used to the supps and keep a fresh new source of ewcm each time if that makes sense?? So, EPO one month, fish oil the next month, flaxseed the next month etc, any thoughts anyone...

I did have a ridiculous amount of ewcm my second month of fish oil- I mean floods. Now, I get it, just enough. I never had it before taking supplements. I agree that your body probably adjusts to it.

[TTC5]

Definitely there is still hope! What type of test are you using?

Just a cheap Ebay test (pregnow) they reckon they can test 10ml?

[ams]

Ttc5- I never got a positive using cheap Internet ones... Dont know why but just didn't ... First response one positive straight away .... So don't give up hope!

I read yr birth story and sounds like my dd3 she too was a twin I had lots of bleeding and she is very much here!!!

I still feel really pregnant so just going to b positive and let my body do it's thing. I decided not to go back for an early ultra sound... Just wait to see my ob at about 11 wks. I just feel that this time I want to enjoy the whole pregnancy thing and stressing over not seeing bub today may be a bit silly as I am probably only 6 wk 3 days and I have a tilted uterus so that could also effect it!

Good luck with the testing!!

[ams]

Ttc5- I never got a positive using cheap Internet ones... Dont know why but just didn't ... First response one positive straight away .... So don't give up hope!

I read yr birth story and sounds like my dd3 she too was a twin I had lots of bleeding and she is very much here!!!

I still feel really pregnant so just going to b positive and let my body do it's thing. I decided not to go back for an early ultra sound... Just wait to see my ob at about 11 wks. I just feel that this time I want to enjoy the whole pregnancy thing and stressing over not seeing bub today may be a bit silly as I am probably only 6 wk 3 days and I have a tilted uterus so that could also effect it!

Good luck with the testing!!

[TTC5]

Ttc5- I never got a positive using cheap Internet ones... Dont know why but just didn't ... First response one positive straight away .... So don't give up hope!

I read yr birth story and sounds like my dd3 she too was a twin I had lots of bleeding and she is very much here!!!

I still feel really pregnant so just going to b positive and let my body do it's thing. I decided not to go back for an early ultra sound... Just wait to see my ob at about 11 wks. I just feel that this time I want to enjoy the whole pregnancy thing and stressing over not seeing bub today may be a bit silly as I am probably only 6 wk 3 days and I have a tilted uterus so that could also effect it!

Good luck with the testing!!

Sounds like a good plan :)

[LolaInLove]

You would give up on ttc if you had thyroid issues? It's really just a small pill every day and finding the right dosage which you would need to do anyway. Once you get it sorted out there are no issues of ttc. I've been on it for a couple of weeks and had a normal cycle. The proof will be next time I O, but things are better already and it's safe to take w/ pregnant and nursing. GL to you!

FWIW, my ex-MIL had her thyroid removed as a child because of cancer, so has taken a large amount of thyridizine (sp?) most of her life to compensate. She got pg super easy and took it while pg and nursing all 3 of her kids.

It is really AMAZING how that one little organ can control so many of your bodily functions!!!!

FX yours continues to be a good little thyroid and give you perfect cycles and a bfp, Iluv! Layla, I hope that eases your mind a bit. Millions of people have thryoid issues and like Iluv said, a little medication can make you straight as rain again.

[LolaInLove]

I don't even have the benefits of big boobs w/ my poochy tummy for like my shirts to hang better and not skin tight making my stomach stick out more. I don't want to buy a lot of clothes either since I plan on being pregnant soon. I think I have about 4 months to hide my pregnancy w/ my current stomach size. :) At some point bigger lower 1/2 and small boobs will just make me look awkward, at least I'm tall.

I love the DD2 theory though and that I'm not the only one. We love her, but she has been a challenge to say the least. Good thing she's cute. :)

There is no way that a Starbursts and Skittles diet could result in low nutrients. Don't you sweat it even a little. :) I'm going w/ that theory since I live on a mostly liquid diet of Starbucks and redbull. Could thing I've conceived 2 DS's on that diet or I might be sweating it a little bit more. :) Maybe I'll start my own forum with the Starbucks/Redbull diet to ttc sons. J/K!

Two comments: on fashion- my new style is big old baggy shirts with cropped leggings. It's my new thang. No belly to be seen and I feel quite boho also. On the redbull/sbux diet- I'm pretty sure that is what Britney Spears is on most of the time and she has 2 boys, LOL!

[LolaInLove]

At least you have an excuse. I married DH the 1st time and I thought it was so cute that I got to balance his checkbook for him. Dear Lord, I had no idea what the really meant for my life. I married him again and there is no excuse, I sure has heck can't blame ignorance. :) I do LOVE my Dh though and I've put a lot of work into him, but it hasn't been easy at all and it still a work in progress. The fact that I'm perfect goes w/o saying. :)

You guys divorced then remarried? I gotta say AWWWW at that....it is cute. I think all marriages/men are a work in progress. My dad taught me the best lesson ever about how to stay happily married (which he and my mom still are)- he said when you stop caring for your spouse and doing those little things that you did when dating, then it starts to break down. He and my mom seem to wait on each other all the time, but it shows that they CARE for each other, kwim? DH and I made a deal with each other on our wedding night that we are not allowed to stop caring for the other person and going out of our way to do for them. It helps, we still feel like we are dating.

[LolaInLove]

Oh and Cemas, vent away! That's definitely one of the reasons we are all here. Keeping my FX you get a BFP soon; you certainly deserve one.

Yes, Cemas....vent away, lady! One of the reasons I like this group so much is because there are a mix of newbies and veteran swayers, and we get a lot from each other. I gain enthusiasm from the newbies, and hopefully they gain some perspective and patience from us long-timers. I wish I had some long-timers in our old crew back in the day to tell me that it might take some time so don't freak about that.

And ya know what, I feel like there is only one way I can go right now if I am to get pg, and that is to keep BELIEVING in my self and my body, to believe that this year of ttc and the m/c's and pitfalls all mean something to my life and my perspective. That when this baby does come along, I will be so much the wiser and more appreciative of him or her.

My yoga teachers knows about my journey and such, and she told me from the very first class that when we meditate in class and outside of class, that she wants me to repeat this over and over: "Thank you for the life you are about to put inside of me." I just love that. She says I am to thank the universe for what I am about to receive....and the universe will reciprocate. I'm not some new-agey chick but I do like it and it keeps me positive and peaceful about it, in a very excited way.

[LolaInLove]

Other than drying up CM I don't see how else Clomid could sway? That's the way I'm thinking and sticking to it anyway. Hopefully the Clomid will give those nice mature eggs a big boost. We were told to BD every second day as well from CD10 onwards.

I hope you are right for both of us! I am getting excited to try it. Do you think the odds of twins is greater if you can O on your own and you take Clomid? Are you guys going to use any preseed or ew?

[LolaInLove]

Hi all sorry to be a pain and it seems I only come on here when I have a problem but only get Internet on my phone and I hate typing on there!

Well I went for a scan today due to some spotting but they could not see a yolk sac or fetal pole just a gest. Sac I know when I od so I should b about 6 wk 4 days. Should I be worried? Thanks

Hi AMS.....I am so sorry, I hope you are doing ok. Yes, TTC5 had the same experience. I had a different one this past pg....at my 8wk appt there was an empty sac with nothing inside. BUT that was at 8wks when there should be something definitely visible. At 6 1/2 wks, may still be early, and maybe the u/s machine just didn't pick your bub up. I know you can't help but worry, but do try to remember that at your stage, it is possible that you are too early, but also possible that you have an empty sac like I did, which I hope is not the case. How is your spotting going? Did it stop? I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. Did they schedule you for another scan in a couple of weeks?

[iluvmyman]

Two comments: on fashion- my new style is big old baggy shirts with cropped leggings. It's my new thang. No belly to be seen and I feel quite boho also. On the redbull/sbux diet- I'm pretty sure that is what Britney Spears is on most of the time and she has 2 boys, LOL!

LOL! You crack me up!

[iluvmyman]

You guys divorced then remarried? I gotta say AWWWW at that....it is cute. I think all marriages/men are a work in progress. My dad taught me the best lesson ever about how to stay happily married (which he and my mom still are)- he said when you stop caring for your spouse and doing those little things that you did when dating, then it starts to break down. He and my mom seem to wait on each other all the time, but it shows that they CARE for each other, kwim? DH and I made a deal with each other on our wedding night that we are not allowed to stop caring for the other person and going out of our way to do for them. It helps, we still feel like we are dating.

Yup we did. Married and pregnant in 95, divorced in 98 and remarried on a beach in Maui in 2002. We've been through a lot. We are still totally into each other. He was mostly immature and expecting marriage just to be being on his own and having sex all the time. Seems he forgot about the being home and keeping a job and such. :) I think he's so hot still though. :)

[LolaInLove]

Yup we did. Married and pregnant in 95, divorced in 98 and remarried on a beach in Maui in 2002. We've been through a lot. We are still totally into each other. He was mostly immature and expecting marriage just to be being on his own and having sex all the time. Seems he forgot about the being home and keeping a job and such. :) I think he's so hot still though. :)

You might want to slap me for saying this, but I think that is awesome! There has got to be a strong attraction when you get remarried to someone. And it is important that you still think he's hot! You 2 are totally MFEO!!!!

[iluvmyman]

You might want to slap me for saying this, but I think that is awesome! There has got to be a strong attraction when you get remarried to someone. And it is important that you still think he's hot! You 2 are totally MFEO!!!!

MFEO??? He still struggles w/ finances but honestly, I'm so glad we are together. I adore him (we have our struggles and sometimes I think I might just shoot him) and prayed that we could be back together and God truly blessed me. I waited 2 years and dated no one to try and get my marriage back together through all the crap, it was hard but has made me stronger too. Plus at this point we've been there, done that and we know that we want to be together. He's made me some pretty cute kids too. :)

[begonia]

ITA Iluv, how cool is that that you two got remarried?!?! And that you think he is hot :-) Love it. And I thought the same thing re: redbull and Starbucks! So Britney, LOL! Put on some cutoffs and cowboy boots with a flannel and that makes for a very strong boy sway ;-)

Lola your parents sound fab too. My parents got divorced when I was so young I don't even have memories of us all together ... and they hate each others guts so much that my wedding was a nightmare for me. Ugh. I am SO SO SO thankful that my kids will have a different experience.

Sour watermelon candy slices count as fruit. At least that's what I'm going with today...

[begonia]

MFEO??? He still struggles w/ finances but honestly, I'm so glad we are together. I adore him (we have our struggles and sometimes I think I might just shoot him) and prayed that we could be back together and God truly blessed me. I waited 2 years and dated no one to try and get my marriage back together through all the crap, it was hard but has made me stronger too. Plus at this point we've been there, done that and we know that we want to be together. He's made me some pretty cute kids too. :)

Awwwww! MFEO = Meant for each other. Adorable. I always remember the friends episode where Ross and Rachel get back together, and Phoebe says "See? He's her lobster!" because lobsters apparently mate for life. So I always tell DH he's my lobster, LOL. Charming.

[iluvmyman]

ITA Iluv, how cool is that that you two got remarried?!?! And that you think he is hot :-) Love it. And I thought the same thing re: redbull and Starbucks! So Britney, LOL! Put on some cutoffs and cowboy boots with a flannel and that makes for a very strong boy sway ;-)

Lola your parents sound fab too. My parents got divorced when I was so young I don't even have memories of us all together ... and they hate each others guts so much that my wedding was a nightmare for me. Ugh. I am SO SO SO thankful that my kids will have a different experience.

Sour watermelon candy slices count as fruit. At least that's what I'm going with today...

I think every 5 you eat in considered 1 serving of fruit. :)

[iluvmyman]

Awwwww! MFEO = Meant for each other. Adorable. I always remember the friends episode where Ross and Rachel get back together, and Phoebe says "See? He's her lobster!" because lobsters apparently mate for life. So I always tell DH he's my lobster, LOL. Charming.

Veryyyy charming. :) That's cute! Termites mate for life too, but that's not nearly as endearing. :)

[iluvmyman]

I'm too frustrated and I can't figure out how to link my FF to here. FF won't list my O date and I don't totally know why.

[TTC5]

I had a HUGE dip this morning, should I take this as a sign of AF on the way or could it possibly be an implantation dip?
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/336025

[Kris217]

I'm too frustrated and I can't figure out how to link my FF to here. FF won't list my O date and I don't totally know why.

Mine wouldn't show my O date either, it looked like all my info had gone until i clicked edit and i could see it still there. I opened another account, put all my info back in and now it's back to normal :)

[Alexis2007]

TTC5- implantation dip? FX!!

[TTC5]

TTC5- implantation dip? FX!!

I am praying it is!!!

[begonia]

I am praying it is!!!

Me too me too!!!!

[TTC5]

Thanks begonia! Do u think it is a good possibility?

[Cheekymoo]

I had a HUGE dip this morning, should I take this as a sign of AF on the way or could it possibly be an implantation dip?
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/336025

well if it is an implantation dip the good news is the HCG will begin to be made and flow through your system ....so keep testing...FX!

[Cheekymoo]

TTC5 - do you have any charts from your other kids? Specifically when you got preggo? I noticed I got my + about 4 days after the dip with my two but I am sure this varies for everyone......?

[DoulaMama]

Crashing- OMG I think that is a perfectly timed, beautiful implantation dip! 9dpo and everything! AHHHH!!!!! I'm so excited for you!!!! I really think you're going to get your April Baby!!!!!

Ok...never mind....it'll be a late March baby but hey...it's close;) :rofl:

[3Pink1Blue]

Just got home from the hospital! Here's my bff's gorgeous new baby girl. Sadly a c-section left me out but oh well. Sarah Mae born 8:17pm 9 lbs 1 oz 22 inches long.

I will start catching up tomorrow :)

[TTC5]

OMG what a little bundle of cuteness Jen!!!!! How is Mamma going with recovery? xx

[TTC5]

Crashing- OMG I think that is a perfectly timed, beautiful implantation dip! 9dpo and everything! AHHHH!!!!! I'm so excited for you!!!! I really think you're going to get your April Baby!!!!!

Ok...never mind....it'll be a late March baby but hey...it's close;) :rofl:

We don't mind crasher's lol so long as they send us their BLUE dust ;)
Oh I am hoping this is an ID I really am... yes would be due end of March but I always go early for some reason so would either have it end of Feb - mid March. IF I am preg, that is lol

[TTC5]

TTC5 - do you have any charts from your other kids? Specifically when you got preggo? I noticed I got my + about 4 days after the dip with my two but I am sure this varies for everyone......?

No unfortunately I never charted with them lol! Oohh so tell me about your dips? Were they noticeable like the one I had this morning and how many dpo?

[ELP]

Jen that little baby is bright eyed and beautiful, what a lucky mum she is xxxxx

[ELP]

Veryyyy charming. :) That's cute! Termites mate for life too, but that's not nearly as endearing. :)
:rofl: My eyes are literally watering with laughter reading this!!:HH:

[ELP]

I had a HUGE dip this morning, should I take this as a sign of AF on the way or could it possibly be an implantation dip?
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/336025I'm thinking I've got a new buddy;)

[iluvmyman]

Just got home from the hospital! Here's my bff's gorgeous new baby girl. Sadly a c-section left me out but oh well. Sarah Mae born 8:17pm 9 lbs 1 oz 22 inches long.

I will start catching up tomorrow :)

OMGosh 3PNB, how fun is that, she's so alert! are you feeling any better after being w/ a newborn?

[iluvmyman]

:rofl: My eyes are literally watering with laughter reading this!!:HH:

We aim to please, ELP. :)

[iluvmyman]

Mine wouldn't show my O date either, it looked like all my info had gone until i clicked edit and i could see it still there. I opened another account, put all my info back in and now it's back to normal :)

Hmmm, maybe I'll try that

[TTC5]

I'm thinking I've got a new buddy;)

Oohhhhh hope your right!!!!

[Plum3]

I had a HUGE dip this morning, should I take this as a sign of AF on the way or could it possibly be an implantation dip?
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/336025

Looking good if it's an implantation dip!

[Plum3]

I have heard it can sway boy because it raises testosterone in the female. My gf just had a boy after clomid for 6 months! And her DH had low sperm count.

I've never heard of it doing that, but if it does then great :)

[Plum3]

Gorgeous bub your friend has there Jen. I want one right now!

[babydes56]

I'd say implantation dip too! I really hope this is it for you hun. DH home this weekend so i'm so happy, he's been working away for nearly 7wks now. I only have him for the weekend then he's back there for the next 2wks then back home for good, cant wait. Since we got news that i was preggers i've been home with the girls & not been spoilt by him which he's good at doing so it's been a bit hard on me especially since i dont feel like cooking. He got here late last night & wanted some but i wasnt up to it so i'm hoping my sex drive kicks in like it did when i was preg with my last daughter, i was ever ready:wink:

[babydes56]

Jen, she's adorable so alert!

[babydes56]

Gorgeous bub your friend has there Jen. I want one right now!

I think it's best at times to not know the gender until baby's born because you surely arent disappointed once you see that little face

[Cheekymoo]

No unfortunately I never charted with them lol! Oohh so tell me about your dips? Were they noticeable like the one I had this morning and how many dpo?
My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e0841) I think this is the link...check it out for yourself my first one was more noticable 10dpo- late Bfp 2nd one 8dpo 12 dpo bfp.....less of a 'dip though..........

I am trying not to get too excited myself as I have noticed on both my preggo charts I got massive temp jumps about 4/5dpo.......I don't 'normally' get such a big one and this month I have too probably means nothing but...:)

[begonia]

I think it's best at times to not know the gender until baby's born because you surely arent disappointed once you see that little face

Oh I totally agree with this. Last night I was remembering the births of my DD's and just KNEW I'd be ok with having another girl at birth. If I found out at u/s I'd carry disappointment b/c there's no sweet face or personality to fall in love with... but once I hold that sweet baby (girl or boy) I'll be over the moon. Seeing that gorgeous girl makes me so excited to have another babe, thanks for posting it Jen! She's beautiful, FX mom heals quickly!

Cheeky I am SO not a chart reader, but I really, really hope you get to join the due in March thread!

And TTC5, like I said I'm not a chart person, but it sounds like what yours is doing is verrrrrry promising!!!! So exciting!

Babydes enjoy that time with DH! I am super glad he won't be away for most of the rest of your pg; that would be tough for sure. Especially if your sex drive comes back :-)

[TTC5]

10dpo and my temp went back up this morning, but not as high as it was before the dip is this still ok????

[TTC5]

My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e0841) I think this is the link...check it out for yourself my first one was more noticable 10dpo- late Bfp 2nd one 8dpo 12 dpo bfp.....less of a 'dip though..........

I am trying not to get too excited myself as I have noticed on both my preggo charts I got massive temp jumps about 4/5dpo.......I don't 'normally' get such a big one and this month I have too probably means nothing but...:)

Off to look!

[iluvmyman]

I'd say implantation dip too! I really hope this is it for you hun. DH home this weekend so i'm so happy, he's been working away for nearly 7wks now. I only have him for the weekend then he's back there for the next 2wks then back home for good, cant wait. Since we got news that i was preggers i've been home with the girls & not been spoilt by him which he's good at doing so it's been a bit hard on me especially since i dont feel like cooking. He got here late last night & wanted some but i wasnt up to it so i'm hoping my sex drive kicks in like it did when i was preg with my last daughter, i was ever ready:wink:

I would go insane w/ my DH gone like that and in the beginning of a pregnancy, ouch. You're a good woman!!

[cemas]

yesterday night i got a fade in on the internet opk and today morning a clear +ve on the internet one but when i did a CBE with the same urine it was -ve(no smiley) but pretty dark when i popped it out to see the lines. i tested again at 2.30 pm and both -ve. the internet one still had 2 lines but much lighter then morn.

i am confused....as this happened to me once last year when i missed my O. the internet one was +ve once and cbe never and then my temp went up. my cycles are so long so i do not want to miss a chance

i am thinking of BD tonight which will be 3 days abstinence.....and keep checking opks....if it come +ve sun/mon we BD again....
what do u girls think? should we do tonight or wait.....jsut to mention i am having a lot of ewcm. i cannot really tell checking cervix as it is partially soft and hard on other side....
i will check again a 6 pm.....

is morning test not accurate??...i think my urine was diluted at 2.30. i hold it only for 3 hrs.

[begonia]

Cemas, knowing how long you have been at this, I would NOT fret about timing. I would DEFINITELY DTD tonight if you're having a lot of EWCM. That said I trust the CBE more than the IC, but FMU is pretty tricky with OPKs. The only time I have ever gotten a +OPK in the am (with CBE, which is about all I used) was the morning AFTER my surge already was detected the previous day. Once your surge starts I think it is hard to miss, but I think that catching the initial surge is best done in the afternoon.

So anyhow, I would BD tonight, it might be your O, after all.... you have good signs. And just keep taking the OPKs to see if one turns + the next few days, and if it does BD again.

If you hadn't been trying and were really itching to do a 1 time BD on O I'd tell you to wait, but I think you should go for it and feel good about it. Don't let the EWCM go to waste! It'll keep the swimmers alive for that egg!

[ELP]

Cemas, knowing how long you have been at this, I would NOT fret about timing. I would DEFINITELY DTD tonight if you're having a lot of EWCM. That said I trust the CBE more than the IC, but FMU is pretty tricky with OPKs. The only time I have ever gotten a +OPK in the am (with CBE, which is about all I used) was the morning AFTER my surge already was detected the previous day. Once your surge starts I think it is hard to miss, but I think that catching the initial surge is best done in the afternoon.

So anyhow, I would BD tonight, it might be your O, after all.... you have good signs. And just keep taking the OPKs to see if one turns + the next few days, and if it does BD again.

If you hadn't been trying and were really itching to do a 1 time BD on O I'd tell you to wait, but I think you should go for it and feel good about it. Don't let the EWCM go to waste! It'll keep the swimmers alive for that egg!Exactly:agree: Plus it will give them all a chance to get into place with your altered sway conditions favoring the boys!

[LolaInLove]

Yep, Cemas, I agree....just start going for it. (There needs to be a humping icon to insert in instances like this.)

3pnb, WHAT A CUTE BABY! :DD: ITA with Babydes and all about not finding out now. Things like cute pics of baby girls always get me. I saw a cute couple with 3 girls today and it made me smile.

Will check in later, ladies, out to have some red wine with a girlfriend. It's a part of my, uh, sway. :wink:

[TTC5]

Cemas ITA with the other ladies!!

[cemas]

Thanks girls. Appreciate all the responses. Dh too agrees . We r eager to get pregnant . BTW got another -ve at 8pm....WTH....will still dtd tonight and keep doing opks.

3pnb nice pic...so cute.

Lola enjoy ur sway drink:bigsmile:

[cemas]

And GL TT5 hope u get ur bfp....

[begonia]

Lola I remember WLM drank red wine she said almost every night while she was swaying! And that worked out :-) Antioxidants are good for blue! I didn't abstain fully while swaying.

Good luck Cemas!!!! Hope this cycle is it for you!

[TTC5]

And GL TT5 hope u get ur bfp....

TY!!! GL to you too!! xx

[3Pink1Blue]

Alexis - happy birthday to your little one! I hope you ate the cake and ice cream, one slip won't hurt.

Cemas - vent away darlin', we all get jaded by this process and it feels better to gripe to those that get it.

Kris -woohoo for the 2ww but so sorry Sarah, hope she's back on her feet soon.

14 pages I had to go back! Glad you liked the pics, before the m/c seeing new little faces kept me so excited and hopeful when ttc. She's such a sweet baby, took the girls to visit her today. They lost they're little minds, they love her so much and she's not even ours lol My friend is doing well, lots of pain killers and the plan is to release her Monday. I did great, less affected then I thought but not actually seeing her be born kept a lot of the emotion at bay. I don't know about you ladies but I can't even watch a birth on tv (real not dramatized) without crying so not seeing that kept me excited instead of crazy emotional. Sitting there snuggling her makes me really really hope this baby hangs around. Don't get me wrong I always wanted that but holding that sweet baby punched a few holes in the wall I've put up.
Thanks for your support on my detachment, I've been keeping it to myself because it makes me feel selfish. You ladies are struggling to get preg and here I am not really excited and just hoping I'll still be preg tomorrow. I'm hoping my Thursday appt helps but I doubt it will. Last time all was well at 10 wks, hell as far as I knew all was well at 12wks 6 days. Anyway I love the support here, keeps me calmer and with a little hope that I will actually end up with a baby this time. So tired, off to bed.

[TTC5]

You will be holding that baby of yours in no time Jen xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[iluvmyman]

Alexis - happy birthday to your little one! I hope you ate the cake and ice cream, one slip won't hurt.

Cemas - vent away darlin', we all get jaded by this process and it feels better to gripe to those that get it.

Kris -woohoo for the 2ww but so sorry Sarah, hope she's back on her feet soon.

14 pages I had to go back! Glad you liked the pics, before the m/c seeing new little faces kept me so excited and hopeful when ttc. She's such a sweet baby, took the girls to visit her today. They lost they're little minds, they love her so much and she's not even ours lol My friend is doing well, lots of pain killers and the plan is to release her Monday. I did great, less affected then I thought but not actually seeing her be born kept a lot of the emotion at bay. I don't know about you ladies but I can't even watch a birth on tv (real not dramatized) without crying so not seeing that kept me excited instead of crazy emotional. Sitting there snuggling her makes me really really hope this baby hangs around. Don't get me wrong I always wanted that but holding that sweet baby punched a few holes in the wall I've put up.
Thanks for your support on my detachment, I've been keeping it to myself because it makes me feel selfish. You ladies are struggling to get preg and here I am not really excited and just hoping I'll still be preg tomorrow. I'm hoping my Thursday appt helps but I doubt it will. Last time all was well at 10 wks, hell as far as I knew all was well at 12wks 6 days. Anyway I love the support here, keeps me calmer and with a little hope that I will actually end up with a baby this time. So tired, off to bed.

Don't think twice about feeling guilty about complaining, I totally understand!

[Plum3]

I think it's best at times to not know the gender until baby's born because you surely arent disappointed once you see that little face

ITA, but there is no way my DH could wait that long. I'm going to try and talk him around next time but I don't like my chances.

[Plum3]

My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e0841) I think this is the link...check it out for yourself my first one was more noticable 10dpo- late Bfp 2nd one 8dpo 12 dpo bfp.....less of a 'dip though..........

I am trying not to get too excited myself as I have noticed on both my preggo charts I got massive temp jumps about 4/5dpo.......I don't 'normally' get such a big one and this month I have too probably means nothing but...:)

Looking good :) Good luck! When are you testing?

[Plum3]

Yep, Cemas, I agree....just start going for it. (There needs to be a humping icon to insert in instances like this.)

3pnb, WHAT A CUTE BABY! :DD: ITA with Babydes and all about not finding out now. Things like cute pics of baby girls always get me. I saw a cute couple with 3 girls today and it made me smile.

Will check in later, ladies, out to have some red wine with a girlfriend. It's a part of my, uh, sway. :wink:

Hope you enjoyed that swaying wine!

[Layla]

You would give up on ttc if you had thyroid issues? It's really just a small pill every day and finding the right dosage which you would need to do anyway. Once you get it sorted out there are no issues of ttc. I've been on it for a couple of weeks and had a normal cycle. The proof will be next time I O, but things are better already and it's safe to take w/ pregnant and nursing. GL to you!

I just feel so old! I think any bump along the way is a "sign" that I should stop now and not have anymore children. I hope you are right and it is not too bad or too long to treat. I have been reading information from this site http://www.thyroid.org.au/Information/Conditions.html and maybe getting myself a bit scared. Anyway test results are due on wednesday so will start worrying or not then.

[Layla]

Love the pics 3Pink she is soooo beautiful. You will hold yours in your arms too very soon. After my 2 m/c I also felt detached it was not until the 12 week scan that I actually said to myself Ok it is now time for you to start getting attached to this bub. So I will say the same to you now. The scan will help I am sure when you see those beautiful arms, legs flapping around as if trying to hug you already, you will not be able to help yourself...

[Cheekymoo]

3Pink- You have every right to feel the way you do- it's not without reason either- hopefully given time it will change xo

Bec- My husband would not wait either :) we will find out for sure at 19 weeks...as for me testing I am 9dpo tomorrow trying to resist I know it will be BFN even if I am preggo i just don't test positive that early......I will see what happens in the morning though might have to do it anyway... :)

Layla- hope the test results are good news... let us know.

TTC5- your chart looks good can't wait to see what happens when you test again...I assume you will test tomorrow?

Babydes- hope that sex drive finds you soon LOL

Sorry if I have missed anyone- I have been staying away a bit hoping the 2ww will go a bit quicker....... But I just know the last week of it is going to crawl by regardless so I might as well obsess! LOL

[babydes56]

I would go insane w/ my DH gone like that and in the beginning of a pregnancy, ouch. You're a good woman!!

He has to work & that's the job he had at the time i fell preg so he had no choice, he's a very good man too

[cemas]

same thing today...+ve IC opk but -ve smiley.....really hoping i get to see the smiley today!
we got one attempt in yesterday. still lots ewcm so i know i did not O.

just worried this attempt does not go like 4-5 days before O...

thanks 3PNB...
how are the 2ww doing?? no updates today?

babydes u must be so excited to see the u/s and hear those hearbeats(music to the ears)
u r brave to manage work and home on own with travelling hubby .

[TTC5]

11dpo and bfn AF due in 3 days.

[cemas]

I finally got a smiley at 2.30 pm today......yayyy
Now when do we Bd again?? We did Bd yesterday night.
We are thinking tomorrow afternoon as we have a friend visiting who is staying with us and are busy tonight.
What do u girls think???
I don' t feel comfortable doing 24 hrs apart. Part of me wishes we had waited.
IG said to do 48 hrs apart for FTC boy but scared that may be late

[cemas]

Ttc5 its only 11 and majority get bfp only after 11dpo
No worries yet fx for u

[TTC5]

Yayyy Cemas!!! Can you try soon as your visitors leave?

[TTC5]

Ttc5 it only 11and majority get bfp only after 11dpo
No worries yet fx for u

TY! x

[ttcboy2011]

Hi ttc5, can u add me to the list please.
Swaying approx. 6 weeks ago
Ttc in July, ttc attempt 1
♥ Starting supps and diet 6 weeks ago before attempt. Trying to eat red meat, potatoes, bananas, potassium and salty foods. Drinking lemon water and green tea. Using ions- pc
Supps: fa, fish oil,vit e, zinc, potassium, fertility cm

Thank you

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- I got my bfp at 12dpo, fx for good news soon!

Ttcboy2011- welcome!!

Thanks ladies, I love how all angst and venting is supported here. I think I'm sure I'd been chastised on ig for being ungrateful.

[TTC5]

Ttc5- I got my bfp at 12dpo, fx for good news soon!

Ttcboy2011- welcome!!

Thanks ladies, I love how all angst and venting is supported here. I think I'm sure I'd been chastised on ig for being ungrateful.

Had you tested on 11dpo too? xx

[TTC5]

Ttc5- I got my bfp at 12dpo, fx for good news soon!

Ttcboy2011- welcome!!

Thanks ladies, I love how all angst and venting is supported here. I think I'm sure I'd been chastised on ig for being ungrateful.

Obviously, they do not understand where as lot of us DO!! xoxox

[TTC5]

Hi ttc5, can u add me to the list please.
Swaying approx. 6 weeks ago
Ttc in July, ttc attempt 1
♥ Starting supps and diet 6 weeks ago before attempt. Trying to eat red meat, potatoes, bananas, potassium and salty foods. Drinking lemon water and green tea. Using ions- pc
Supps: fa, fish oil,vit e, zinc, potassium, fertility cm

Thank you

Adding now!!

[Alexis2007]

DD's bday party went well! She was sooo excited! I did eat some cake and only a little bite of ice cream. Also had some sweet tea. Maybe no harm done. Back at the boy diet now. Hoping to O around July 19-21!! Feels like it'll take forever to get here!

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- I used a dollar store test on cd11 and the answer wasn't clear, I used another dollar test with fmu on cd12 and still unclear. Frer with 5 hr pee got me the bfp.

Alexis- good for you for eating some cake, I guarantee you many boy moms ate cake and ice-cream within days of conception. O day will come sooner then you think!

[Cheekymoo]

11dpo and bfn AF due in 3 days.

I know how you feel :( I HATE those BFN's but hey there is still hope...perhaps yu wont test positive till 4 days after your dip like i do...which is 13dpo......... I am already giving up hope as i haven't seen a dip at all and am 9dpo...ah well theres always next month....

[TTC5]

Jen unclear as in no2nd line lol or a light shadow of a line?

cheeky - fx for us both hey!!

[Layla]

TTC5 I never test before day 14, this is because even at day 14 my second line is very faint. I think there is still hope. Wait till day 14 and then test. Find other things to distract yourself with. For example tell me what you think of Posh's "girl diet" and what she ate (apparently she does eat) when she conceived her boys. It sounds like more protein for boys and more carbs for girls and also opposite of what she normally eats (yes yes ladies as amazing as it sounds she does eat) i.e. before only protein fruits and vegatables (sounds like atomic's caveman diet) and for girls milk and carbs (sounds like what I always ate). Also who thinks she went to hi-tech without being caught? Are we allowed to engage in gossip on this forum? It is slightly related to the forum's discussion topics.

[iluvmyman]

I just feel so old! I think any bump along the way is a "sign" that I should stop now and not have anymore children. I hope you are right and it is not too bad or too long to treat. I have been reading information from this site http://www.thyroid.org.au/Information/Conditions.html and maybe getting myself a bit scared. Anyway test results are due on wednesday so will start worrying or not then.

If it makes you feel better, I'm 35 1/2. :) Is DH wanting more and your kind of done? I'll check out the website and keep us updated.

[iluvmyman]

He has to work & that's the job he had at the time i fell preg so he had no choice, he's a very good man too

I'm sure he would have much rather been home w/ you too. I had my DH gone for 3 weeks and it was rough and I wasn't in my 1st trimester. GL, hun!

[iluvmyman]

Hi ttc5, can u add me to the list please.
Swaying approx. 6 weeks ago
Ttc in July, ttc attempt 1
♥ Starting supps and diet 6 weeks ago before attempt. Trying to eat red meat, potatoes, bananas, potassium and salty foods. Drinking lemon water and green tea. Using ions- pc
Supps: fa, fish oil,vit e, zinc, potassium, fertility cm

Thank you

Hi ttcboy2011! BTW - I was taking fertileCM and it messed up my cycles. If things get wacky that would be the 1st thing I'd drop.

[Layla]

If it makes you feel better, I'm 35 1/2. :) Is DH wanting more and your kind of done? I'll check out the website and keep us updated.

I wish I was 35 Iluv! No, I always wanted 3, DH would love to have more I think but I won't. I just wish I started sooner. I think I will find it hard with a small age gap, but I can't wait for a longer age gap as I feel I am too old. But yes I do wonder whether 3 was just some number that was stuck in my head without knowing the hard work and expense that children involve. Don't get me wrong I love being with my kids it is the best job I have ever done, but I just think DD2 will not get the attention that she deserves if we have another bub, the attention that DD1 enjoyed. Again I do wish I was 35 then I would wait one more year before we start ttc again. Glad I did not try Fertile CM iluv, but what did your dr say what could have caused your thyroid issues? Not enough iodine? Too much iodine or something else completely? I am trying to distract myslef till wednesday and not think about it but it is hard...

[Layla]

Welcome ttcboy2011, the ladies here have been saying to me to wait and be on the diet for 3 months before I ttc. Otherwise I also intended to ttc in july. GL.

[TTC5]

TTC5 I never test before day 14, this is because even at day 14 my second line is very faint. I think there is still hope. Wait till day 14 and then test. Find other things to distract yourself with. For example tell me what you think of Posh's "girl diet" and what she ate (apparently she does eat) when she conceived her boys. It sounds like more protein for boys and more carbs for girls and also opposite of what she normally eats (yes yes ladies as amazing as it sounds she does eat) i.e. before only protein fruits and vegatables (sounds like atomic's caveman diet) and for girls milk and carbs (sounds like what I always ate). Also who thinks she went to hi-tech without being caught? Are we allowed to engage in gossip on this forum? It is slightly related to the forum's discussion topics.

I think without a doubt she went HT ;)

[TTC5]

Welcome ttcboy2011, the ladies here have been saying to me to wait and be on the diet for 3 months before I ttc. Otherwise I also intended to ttc in july. GL.

I would wait 6-8 weeks minimum if you can hold out :) 3 months would be better though!

[TTC5]

Took the girls up to the snow today for an hour, they loved it :) Trying to keep distracted but all I can find myself doing is googling 11dpo and early tests and bla bla bla... I just don't "feel" pregnant. Last two nights am waking in the night with a little blood nose but other than that... nothing :(

[Plum3]

Cemas, great that you finally got the smiley!

3PNB, I don't know how you're feeling but I am glad you feel so supported on here. It's the small things that make all the difference.

Alexis, sounds like your DD had a great party. I'm sure the icecream and cake won't make any difference to your sway. Good luck!

Layla, I'm so thinking Posh went HT as well. If I had the money I would!

TTC5, do you live close to the snow? We live hours away but DH is a fanatic snowboarder so he goes all the time during the snow season.

I'm CD3 at the moment. So for the last two cycles my LP has been 12 days. Is that too short?

[TTC5]

It snowed just 5 minutes from our home, and we drove another 10 minutes to the mountain!!

Would this be a symptom lol... have had dry mouth/throat since about 6dpo I think and still have it?? LOL.... clutching at straws now heheh

[Plum3]

That would be great living so close to the snow. I want to take the girls soon.

No idea about the dry mouth? So you last tested this morning?

[TTC5]

Yep BFN, will try again in the morning lol 12 dpo FX!

It's like i have to keep drinking to put some moisture in there lol but I am not feeling thirsty?

[Plum3]

What does Dr Google say about it?

[Layla]

The girls would have loved the snow. Take them again tomorrow first thing in the morning and don't test. Come on you can do it. The dry throat I think is what happens after you spend one hour with 4 girls on the snow. :prof:

Bec, Posh has the money to bring the IVF clinic to her home for sure she went HT. I bet that was the whole reason why she moved to the states. As if Becks got anything good out of playing for the LA Galaxy (the LA what?). That is why they called her after his football jersey (poor bub)....

[TTC5]

LOL yes they do give you sore throats lol :P

[TTC5]

What does Dr Google say about it?

Well some say they had it too.... but yeah trying to think rationally.... but can't find a reason why hahahah

[begonia]

5, I've totally heard dry mouth as a symptom, and the nose bleed thing too. Cheeky is right though that really the best chance for BFP is 4 days after your implantation dip! So another day or two to go I expect. Are you using the IC or FRER?

Maybe I'm minority but I don't think the Beckhams went HT! But odds are we won't know for sure ... and really it's none of our business, LOL! Remember Matt Damon and his wife having their 3rd (her 4th) girl? I don't think just bc people are wealthy they go HT. Either way I am happy for them; bet that little girl is going to be super protected by 3 older brothers!

Cheeky aren't you in the 2WW too? Any symptoms to report?

Cemas what did you decide? Did you BD again or let it go? That is exactly what happened to me with the BD and the +opk the next afternoon and we BD again. Even if this is a girl I just don't think that will be why, so I'm OK with it ... you just have to do what you know you can be OK with IMO.

[TTC5]

Hey Begonia, I am using ic's :)
Will grab a fr tomorrow when we get paid.

Dry throat thing, after a drink it eases but within half an hour or less it is dry again, more annoying than anything else lol.. maybe something to suck on would help? mmmmm

[begonia]

So excited for you to test with a FR! Maybe get a big cup of ice to suck on? Dry mouth would drive me crazy too!

[TTC5]

That's a good idea!!

[3Pink1Blue]

ttc5- 11dpo gave me a phantom line. Something in some light but stark white in others, slightly visible in pics but invisible when turned negative. Truly inconclusive to a mind not wanting another bfn. FWIW I have a 12 day LP so didn't get the bfp till af was due.
Sorry about the dry mouth try some hard candy or mints, it'll keep your mouth moist without having to drink all the time.

Layla - I remember Victoria talking about wanting a girl for years. I'm not a fan of theirs but she was the first person I ever knew of that actually said out loud she wanted the other gender and I related to that. I'll bet she did go ht. If money was no issue I think a lot of us would, I know we would have.
fwiw many of here are are older, I'm 33.

[Layla]

Begonia and 3pink you are way too nice. I am getting really bitchy on the other hand. Do you think it is a sign of my eastrogen levels going up?:fx:

Begonia you cannot compare lovely Matt Damon and lovely beautiful Luciana with Posh and Becks. Posh has made a career out of being famous for being famous.

Yes good on Posh for admitting she wanted a girl. The girl does know how to get what she wants. At least she tried it naturally 3 times in a row before she went HT. Also she is 37 so no spring chicken like me. Thus, I should stop this now and be nice.

[LolaInLove]

3PNB, don't feel bad for a second for having your fears and talking about it here. I will say again, I will be the exact same way if I get pg. And ya know what, don't feel bad for being detached right now, it is very natural and I am sure every mother who ever had a m/c has felt the same way when pg again. All will be just fine, and like Layla said, at your 12 wk u/s, you will hopefully gain some confidence and start getting some warm fuzzies about it.

TTC5, sorry to hear about the bfns.....I am not good with the symptoms, as I only really count cm changes and being sick in the 2ww to be signs for myself. All else I ignore as to not drive myself crazy! But hang in there, the day ain't over yet!

Cemas, just keep dtd. If you want a baby at this point, just go for it. Even if you dtd 24 hours apart, that is ok....remember that zillions of boys are conceived with even dtd twice every day!

[3Pink1Blue]

Layla - We've all gone through grumpy patches, it is highly possible your new found crabbiness is due to hormone changes or just swaying in general.

Thanks Lola :kiss:

[cemas]

So this was the shortest surge i have had. the cbe was -ve at 11pm yesteray but i wpould say it was a dilute sample with holding for 2 or less hrs. we were too tired last night so decided that if my temp did not go up and there was still cm we would do it in th am. And yes my temp was even lower then yesterday and lotsa ewcm so we did BD again at 9am after the visitor left.....now waiting to O....

ttc5 nose bleed was asure sign for me with dd and the m/c too. so there is lotsa hope . kep at it.

abt stars going HT....At this poinrt i feel it makes no diff....because even for HT to succeed is not a guarantee!
i do feel after all said and done its still God's hands.
I so hope this is our month...:)

Layla i am 37 if it helps...not getting younger. wish we tried earlier. befor this ttc buss i considered myself fertile as dd was 1st try.

welcome ttcboy2011.

3pnb YOU R PREGNANT....don't forget that...enjoy. easier said then done....i would be worried too.

[iluvmyman]

I wish I was 35 Iluv! No, I always wanted 3, DH would love to have more I think but I won't. I just wish I started sooner. I think I will find it hard with a small age gap, but I can't wait for a longer age gap as I feel I am too old. But yes I do wonder whether 3 was just some number that was stuck in my head without knowing the hard work and expense that children involve. Don't get me wrong I love being with my kids it is the best job I have ever done, but I just think DD2 will not get the attention that she deserves if we have another bub, the attention that DD1 enjoyed. Again I do wish I was 35 then I would wait one more year before we start ttc again. Glad I did not try Fertile CM iluv, but what did your dr say what could have caused your thyroid issues? Not enough iodine? Too much iodine or something else completely? I am trying to distract myslef till wednesday and not think about it but it is hard...

It sucks how age becomes such a factor when ttc and rushing the clock. It's hard when they are so close together. there will be lots of benefits though as long as you really push for the kids to be kind to each other. I have lots of experience w/ kids close in age who aren't kind to each other at all and it's really tough. What are the ages? Are you going to add your kids into your signature at the bottom of your posts? I think you'll be surprised at how much your time and affection can spread but I know it's hard. I would never doubt how much you love your kids to feel free to vent. I went through my whole last pregnancy being fearful and the truth is, I'm scared to have another one now, for my time and stress and having a baby again. I know though after losing DS2 that I really want this and I would take back not wanting him if I could, but I have no doubt I'll still be pretty scared. If you really think you don't want anymore, I think it's worth considering not, but I know it's super complex and hard to say your not having anymore kids. GL and don't feel judged, we are all doing the best we can!
The thyroid sounds mostly genetic but we don't have any known history so I have no idea. The only thing that's changes was DS2's birth, and I went really hardcore on the IG diet. I have no idea if any of that catapulted the thyroid. The Dr. was surprised there was no family history that is known. I'm not sure about the iodine. waiting is so hard. I have to wait till the end of August to get my thyroid checked again. If I don't get a BFP by August, I'm going to go in for fertility too.

[iluvmyman]

Welcome ttcboy2011, the ladies here have been saying to me to wait and be on the diet for 3 months before I ttc. Otherwise I also intended to ttc in july. GL.

I think the supps 3 months but I thought Atomic says 6 weeks on the diet.

[iluvmyman]

I think without a doubt she went HT ;)

With all that money, I'm sure she did. :)

[iluvmyman]

Took the girls up to the snow today for an hour, they loved it :) Trying to keep distracted but all I can find myself doing is googling 11dpo and early tests and bla bla bla... I just don't "feel" pregnant. Last two nights am waking in the night with a little blood nose but other than that... nothing :(

So, I just started doing the BBT and it's the trial so I have the advanced FF where they have a pregnancy calculator thingy. Do you have that and what % does it give you. Thought it would be fun to see what it gives you.

[iluvmyman]

5, I've totally heard dry mouth as a symptom, and the nose bleed thing too. Cheeky is right though that really the best chance for BFP is 4 days after your implantation dip! So another day or two to go I expect. Are you using the IC or FRER?

Maybe I'm minority but I don't think the Beckhams went HT! But odds are we won't know for sure ... and really it's none of our business, LOL! Remember Matt Damon and his wife having their 3rd (her 4th) girl? I don't think just bc people are wealthy they go HT. Either way I am happy for them; bet that little girl is going to be super protected by 3 older brothers!

Cheeky aren't you in the 2WW too? Any symptoms to report?

Cemas what did you decide? Did you BD again or let it go? That is exactly what happened to me with the BD and the +opk the next afternoon and we BD again. Even if this is a girl I just don't think that will be why, so I'm OK with it ... you just have to do what you know you can be OK with IMO.

Ummm, sorry B, they are a public figure. Public figure = no right to privacy. They share their political views every chance they get so they should share everything. Lol! I don't really believe that but I do hate them sharing their crazy left wing crap all the time cuz they can. Can we say little princess! How long till Posh comes out w/ a line of girl clothes?

[iluvmyman]

Hey Begonia, I am using ic's :)
Will grab a fr tomorrow when we get paid.

Dry throat thing, after a drink it eases but within half an hour or less it is dry again, more annoying than anything else lol.. maybe something to suck on would help? mmmmm

I hear the payday thing, I need more supps and more digitial opk's and some other things too. It never ends. :) What is the FRER thing?

[TTC5]

So sad, my temp dropped this morning :'(
http://www.fertilityfriend.com​/home/336025

[Layla]

So sad, my temp dropped this morning :'(
http://www.fertilityfriend.com​/home/336025

Sorry to hear TTC5... Was this your first attempt? If so maybe June was not your month, hopefully July!

[3Pink1Blue]

Sorry ttc5. This is why I stopped tempting, I don't need anything more to obsess over. Fx for next month!

[Cheekymoo]

TTC5- sorry to see it dropped - there is always a small bit of hope though until the witch arrives ....... :)
It really sux this TTC gig and swaying just adds another layer again......... I really hope your not out but if you are I feel I will be joining you next month :)
It was BFN for me today and I am slowly getting used to the idea I might be out this month and trying to focus on next months plan.....

[TTC5]

Sorry to hear TTC5... Was this your first attempt? If so maybe June was not your month, hopefully July!

My second month x

[TTC5]

TTC5- sorry to see it dropped - there is always a small bit of hope though until the witch arrives ....... :)
It really sux this TTC gig and swaying just adds another layer again......... I really hope your not out but if you are I feel I will be joining you next month :)
It was BFN for me today and I am slowly getting used to the idea I might be out this month and trying to focus on next months plan...... It sure is stressful hey!

[TTC5]

Sorry ttc5. This is why I stopped tempting, I don't need anything more to obsess over. Fx for next month!
Thanks Jen xx I got some frer today should I bother?

[Layla]

It sucks how age becomes such a factor when ttc and rushing the clock. It's hard when they are so close together. there will be lots of benefits though as long as you really push for the kids to be kind to each other. I have lots of experience w/ kids close in age who aren't kind to each other at all and it's really tough. What are the ages? Are you going to add your kids into your signature at the bottom of your posts? I think you'll be surprised at how much your time and affection can spread but I know it's hard. I would never doubt how much you love your kids to feel free to vent. I went through my whole last pregnancy being fearful and the truth is, I'm scared to have another one now, for my time and stress and having a baby again. I know though after losing DS2 that I really want this and I would take back not wanting him if I could, but I have no doubt I'll still be pretty scared. If you really think you don't want anymore, I think it's worth considering not, but I know it's super complex and hard to say your not having anymore kids. GL and don't feel judged, we are all doing the best we can!
The thyroid sounds mostly genetic but we don't have any known history so I have no idea. The only thing that's changes was DS2's birth, and I went really hardcore on the IG diet. I have no idea if any of that catapulted the thyroid. The Dr. was surprised there was no family history that is known. I'm not sure about the iodine. waiting is so hard. I have to wait till the end of August to get my thyroid checked again. If I don't get a BFP by August, I'm going to go in for fertility too.

My girls are 5yrs and 13mths. I really like the 4 year gap. DD1 was in pre-school 3 days when DD2 was born and then primary school. So I had lots of one on one time with DD2. I have actually made the decision to not ttc anymore in the past and then I felt really bad for it and thought I know I will change my mind in 2 yers time and by then I will be over 40 and I will not be willing to risk it, for the health of the baby more so than the gender and then i changed my mind again. Biological clock sucks.

My understnading is that iodine (too much or too little) messes with your thyroid. In Oz there has been shortages of iodine in people's diet on and off, but it is very hard to measure and if too much it is bad and if not enough it is bad again so dr don't know what to advise. They do advise all women ttc to take i-folic (iodine + folate) supplement at least if they are not taking pre-natals. One more day to test results...

[Layla]

Layla - We've all gone through grumpy patches, it is highly possible your new found crabbiness is due to hormone changes or just swaying in general.

Thanks Lola :kiss:

I hope it is just that and not thyroid. Will find out tomorrow. Most probably it is the full moon though I always get a bit grumpy the week before full moon. Btw 33 you are a baby x.

[Plum3]

So sad, my temp dropped this morning :'(
http://www.fertilityfriend.com​/home/336025

Oh bummer, but it's still higher than usual so there is still hope!

[Plum3]

I hope it is just that and not thyroid. Will find out tomorrow. Most probably it is the full moon though I always get a bit grumpy the week before full moon. Btw 33 you are a baby x.

Hopefully your results are good and you can indeed blame the full moon!

[iluvmyman]

TTC5- sorry to see it dropped - there is always a small bit of hope though until the witch arrives ....... :)
It really sux this TTC gig and swaying just adds another layer again......... I really hope your not out but if you are I feel I will be joining you next month :)
It was BFN for me today and I am slowly getting used to the idea I might be out this month and trying to focus on next months plan.....

So sorry ladies!

[iluvmyman]

I hope it is just that and not thyroid. Will find out tomorrow. Most probably it is the full moon though I always get a bit grumpy the week before full moon. Btw 33 you are a baby x.

You might be one of those people who are actually affected by ions then. Are you swaying using ions? Most people don't but we do try in little ways. I'm not sure I'm actually affected by them personally but it's worth a shot if I remember.

[TTC5]

BFN in FRER test, 12 dpo. I really do not feel pregnant at all!!

[ELP]

BFN in FRER test, 12 dpo. I really do not feel pregnant at all!!No way 5, I was just popping on to read about your bfp:(

[TTC5]

Stark white negative... I am feeling a bit teary and pms'y right now so no doubt AF is on it's way!!

[Plum3]

Cheeky, I must have missed your post... sorry about the BFN.

TTC5, sorry about yours too :(

[ELP]

ZB, have you tested yet??:luck:

[Cheekymoo]

Cheeky, I must have missed your post... sorry about the BFN.

TTC5, sorry about yours too :(

No problem Bec I am only 10dpo so not technically out yet but have a feeling i will be soon will continue to test - especially as I had a POAS windfall LOL the company I ordered my opks ready for next month sent me an extra 12 pregnancy strips??? So I am ok with peeing away even though I am not confident :)

[Plum3]

Ohh bonus, Cheeky! They are just feeding your addiction then ;) So you are by no means out at all!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

TTC5- sorry to hear! Popping in to find out if there was news. I am on CD5- ready to go!

[Cheekymoo]

Stark white negative... I am feeling a bit teary and pms'y right now so no doubt AF is on it's way!!
((((((hugs)))))))

[cemas]

what a bummer TTc...so sorry..but u have 2 more days as ur lp is 14 right?

Cheeky u are no way out yet...

my temp has still not gone up today.....wonder whats happening with my O!

[3Pink1Blue]

Layla- I'm a baby at 33:suprise: clearly you're unaware of how many ladies here are still in their 20's :wink:

Cheeky- Keep us posted!!

Well what I can eat without feeling green is slowly expanding, still can't eat meat though. Having things fade is a little disturbing though, I know it shouldn't but as we have well established I'm a paranoid wreck lol

[cemas]

hi Girls,
curious to know...
1)when do u stop the BSD drinks.....after u confirm O with temp rise or after bd?
2)do you continue doing weights after O? even abs(crunches etc) ??

[LolaInLove]

hi Girls,
curious to know...
1)when do u stop the BSD drinks.....after u confirm O with temp rise or after bd?
2)do you continue doing weights after O? even abs(crunches etc) ??

I would do my last BSD on attempt day and stop weights also. Nothing matters after you attempt, or at least until you O, which hopefully is right around your attempt. At that point, most important to keep your blood sugar level and eat well and take it easy.

[LolaInLove]

Girls, so sorry you are not getting the bfps as quick as you'd like. I agree with 3pnb, after a few tries I stopped obsessing over symptoms because it just made me nuts for 2 weeks. I quit temping also. All I do is opks now. I know it's frustrating!

But do let me repeat this: the sooner you understand that it MAY take a few months, the more peaceful you will feel with the bfns.....I wish someone would have reminded me of that back in the day. And swaying may be making it harder for your body to get pg, you never know. Swaying blue is supposed to make it easier, but who knows. Just consider the extra months as time to keep making yourself more boy-friendly! If it's been 6 months, then we will start to worry. And ya know, I don't know who will agree with me here, but the bd patterns can matter also....especially if you are doing a one time shot. My attempt this next month will be dtd every other day starting on CD10, which my doctor recommended for getting pg fast and also upping sperm count! So maybe reconsider your bding?

Big hugs to you, TTC5 and Cheeky, I know it sucks. You'll get there!!! If at first you don't succeed, try and try again, yea?

[begonia]

But do let me repeat this: the sooner you understand that it MAY take a few months, the more peaceful you will feel with the bfns.....I wish someone would have reminded me of that back in the day. And swaying may be making it harder for your body to get pg, you never know.

The funny thing for me is I SO believed this that I thought we could attempt early just for fun; I really, really believed it wouldn't happen quickly. So much for that idea. I'm getting used to the fact that it happened but there are definitely days I wish we had waited. Anyhow I do totally agree with you though; it is MUCH better to expect that it will take a handful of months.

TTC5 I'm so sorry! How did you do on diet in 2WW this time? Maybe you'll just be even better prepped this time around, FX it happens soon love.

Cheeky at 10dpo I'm not thinking you're out yet! Keep POAS with the best of them!

Layla my girls are 3.5 years apart and I love it too! I think there are definitely benefits to having kids close together though so FX you get pregnant quickly and experience that side too.

Jen I know what you mean about getting weirdly attached to your pregnancy symptoms. FX you have a great appointment Thursday and it gives you SOME peace. I know it'll take a lot more than just seeing a heartbeat at this point, but still... that will ease it some I hope.

Cemas I replied on the other thread too but I still did weights/exercise in my 2ww. But I also have always exercised with my pregnancies; I went for a jog the day before both of my DD's were born. Looking like a waddling hippo no doubt, LOL! Anyhow I think you are safe to continue what you've been doing but would not add anything new. I would definitely stop BSD as soon as you have attempted/O'd.

Craving watermelon (actual fruit, not candy) so that is a nice change, LOL!

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, you are one of the lucky ones, love! But it's better to be shocked with a OHW than expect one, that is what I did the first try. And then the next and the next, and started to feel like something was wrong with me.

3pnb, I know how you feel about the symptoms, I will obsess about that also! I am sure you are fine, though....FX for your scan!!!

[TTC5]

what a bummer TTc...so sorry..but u have 2 more days as ur lp is 14 right?

Cheeky u are no way out yet...

my temp has still not gone up today.....wonder whats happening with my O!

AF due tomorrow yep LP of 14 days :)

About to test with fmu although dunno why I am bothering now lol

[TTC5]

BFN..

Ok I am going to have at least 4 weeks of getting back on track with supps and diet before attempting again :)

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- thanks hun, I'm trying not to obsess but it's so hard. On the other hand my face and back have erupted so I guess thats's a good sign lol I'm hoping in a few weeks you all can hand me a great big "I told you so" :bigsmile:

Thanks B, I'm hoping Thursday helps me breathe a little too. I doubt it but I can hope right :)

Cemas - Stop the bsd as day you get the +opk and yep keep up the weights, it wont hurt the baby and will only strengthen you're attempt next month if there is one.

FWIW ITA with Lola, doesn't matter how quick it happened before settle in that it'll take time. Good news is with each month you'll learn your body better and your sway will become stronger. Set your mind it'll take 3-4 months, if it happens sooner great surprise. If it takes a while, you already knew it would.

[TTC5]

Typical that I can fall pregnant unplanned, while breastfeeding and no period had even returned with DD4 yet now can't fall first or second go timing it right on ovulation GRRR!!

[Tink18]

I have nothing to report just lurking and hoping someone gets a BFP soon! I have been so freaking busy! Hope everyone is well!!! XOXO

[TTC5]

Sorry for lack of personals been so busy here lately!! xx

[Plum3]

3PNB, the fact that you can eat more is great. I'm sure that little bub is being well nourished in there :D Good luck for the scan!

Cemas, I would continue with the weights in the 2ww as well. If you aren't successful this cycle then you'll still be building/maintaining testosterone levels for your next month's attempt.

Begonia, watermelon hey? I craved raspberry lemonade and salami when I was pregnant. After the birth of DD2 my SILs brought me in a big hamper of salami and deli meats, delish. Sounds weird I know!

Lola, I'm trying to think like that- that it will take a few months to actually get pregnant but I think deep down, I am very hopeful that it will happen first go. Got to get that out of my mind.

TTC5, you're not out yet. AF isn't due yet!

Hey Tink :) Have you started diet/supps? Your attempt is so close now.

[Cheekymoo]

So anyone used a pregnow IC ? Not sure if what i saw was a evap................hmmmmmmmmmmm:think::think:

[TTC5]

cheeky yes i use them and never had an evap, show us a pic!!

[Cheekymoo]

haha- I would but it is sooo faint you have to squint to see it.... but my sis and BFF think they see it tooo?? It is sooooooooo faint though! I had all but given up so at least now i feel i could be in the game again I guess- and i did feel like I was getting My AF last night.....cramps and kinda went tropo on poor DH......so mabye?? Or maby just some meg PMS LOL

[Cheekymoo]

Why doesn't FF have a pregnancy test : Mabye? button for my chart? LOL

[Layla]

Hi ladies
Good news no thyroid issues. My bloods all came back very good, no diabetis either all is well. I have to tell you though the whole scare made me think about the possibility that I may not be able to have any more children and that scared the hell out of me. I want one more baby and asap. So I have decided to attempt this month. I have been on the diet for 6 weeks, I have been taking folate fish oil and B12. DH has been taking fish oil, B12 and zinc. I have been drinking lemon water and green tea. I did not intend to take any other supplements as such i do not need to wait for 3 months right? Also I am affected by ions a lot. And because of my freaky early period being the result of me stopping bf I should be ovulating very close to the full moon which never ever happens to me. I decided to take ural from today until O and make sure DH drinks cofee 1 hr before bd. I bought opk and will look for O but will bd on 2-3 days as well. You are all younger than me and it is taking you several months to get pg, I can't wait that long. So wish me luck I am doing this.

[Plum3]

Cheeky, yep I used them with both my girls. How quickly did the line appear? Post a pic anyway!! Ohh, exciting!!

[Plum3]

Layla, good news about your results. If your gut is telling you to attempt then I would go for it. And the fact that you are affected by ions and due to O in the full moon is an excellent sign!

[Cheekymoo]

Hi ladies
Good news no thyroid issues. My bloods all came back very good, no diabetis either all is well. I have to tell you though the whole scare made me think about the possibility that I may not be able to have any more children and that scared the hell out of me. I want one more baby and asap. So I have decided to attempt this month. I have been on the diet for 6 weeks, I have been taking folate fish oil and B12. DH has been taking fish oil, B12 and zinc. I have been drinking lemon water and green tea. I did not intend to take any other supplements as such i do not need to wait for 3 months right? Also I am affected by ions a lot. And because of my freaky early period being the result of me stopping bf I should be ovulating very close to the full moon which never ever happens to me. I decided to take ural from today until O and make sure DH drinks cofee 1 hr before bd. I bought opk and will look for O but will bd on 2-3 days as well. You are all younger than me and it is taking you several months to get pg, I can't wait that long. So wish me luck I am doing this.
GOODLUCK!!!