♥ JULY 2011 TTC Boy Chit Chat Thread ♥

[Alexis2007]

Temp dropped a little this am indicating O might actually be today at cd15. I'm so confused on that lol. Guess I'm
Waiting for crosshairs now. Still feeling crampy though.

[Layla]

Layla- sounds like your cm has turned creamy indicating O has occurred. Not symptom just normal cm activity.


I hope you are right 3pink as I had no idea when I oed this month because I messed up the opk testing. I just re-read atomic's essay on CM (isn't she just fantastic? :superhero:) and she described the CM that appears at O+12 to be exactly like the one I was describing yesterday. There is no sign of it today btw. If that is the case that would mean that we dtd 12-24hrs before O which is perfect timing for a boy sway and the best time (according to Alexis' stats thanks again for those Alexis) to get pregnant. Could I be that lucky to have such a good sway?:cheerteam::cheerteam:
I was stressed at the time though which meant that I was not eating as much as I have been over the last 6 weeks, but I still ate my meat drunk my juices and had fruit and veg and my breakfast just a lot smaller amounts though.:nails:
Ions were also not on my side as it was raining when we dtd. Oh well I gave it a good shot though which will give me more confidence if it does not turn out to be BFP I think. Keep your fingeres crossed for me and I am sooooo glad I found this website you guys are just fantastic.:kissy:

[iluvmyman]

Layla, GL to u girl! Its a good month for BFPs!

[Layla]

Update for me: So I took another thyroid test on Tuesday. It would've been 5 weeks on Thursday so I took the thyroid test again a little before 5 weeks from the last ones. My GP originally told me I could take before the 6-8 weeks but it wouldn't tell her anything. Anyway, this was ordered by my OB and it came back well w/in the normal range. I'm not totally sure I can count it since it's before 6-8 weeks, but I'm thrilled. It's a positive sign and I'm so happy it appears to be "normal"

I really only told 1 friend about my bfp so far. I think I'm kinda scared to share this w/ anyone. I guess I don't care at all what my friends and family think and yet I totally do. I don't want to see any disappointed faces or looks of concern. Of coarse if I tell, the next follow-up ? will always be if we got our autopsy results from DS2 yet, and I don't want to deal w/ that right now either. I didn't want to hide this pregnancy either so I'm not sure what to do. For now I'm OK waiting to tell and would like to get an U/S before telling I think. I wish people were just not in my life at all sometimes. If I never talked bad about anyone I'd feel better about telling people to take a flying leap and mind their own business and if they say one negative word out of "concern" or otherwise and I find out about it, then our relationship is in serious trouble! My pregnancy was so miserable last time that I DO NOT want it to be like that again. This should be joyous time, why are people involved!

Great news iluv I think you should feel more positive from the result (I know it is easier said then done but) put it this way if the result came back bad and it was not relevant timing you would be freaking out at least this way there is hope.
About people being involved, there is nothing wrong with them being involved if they had positive or encouraging things to say. I find that I can't make most of my in-laws (my FIL is not bad most of the time) into positive people so I have given up on hearing what they say: in one ear out the other and reduce time spent with them to absolute minimum. On the other hand if my own family say something hurtful I just say to them you know mum/sister/DH etc what you just said is not very helpful or encouraging it is making me feel bad and I am sure you do not want to make me feel bad so next time before you say something try and think about how it will make me feel. It tends to work. Although having m/c is no where near as awful as what you have sufferred so my advice may not work for you, but give it a shot nothing to loose...

[cemas]

hi girls...BFN for me at 11dpo on a frer......so AF may show up tomorrow......

aggggg....back to start.....

[3Pink1Blue]

Layla- I definitely think you've got a great shot this month!

Iluv- that's great news! Fx it's all good from here!

Cemas- sorry Hun, you'll just be stronger next month!

Tink- Happy Birthday to Dh!

[skrimpy]

Well gals, I've felt my first real twinge of GD today - just found out a girlfriend had her baby and her little surprise is a boy. I hadn't really felt much GD since Honor was born but for some reason hearing that she had a little boy really got to me. I'm holding Honor now and love her to death but still :( Just wanted to say on here as I know that DH won't understand really, and I wanted to tell somebody...

[3Pink1Blue]

Sorry hun, I too was great w/dd3 until my sil had her son. Didn't help that suddenly my baby didn't exist. Anyway, Skrimpy, you know you're in good company.

[LolaInLove]

I would go w/ the date ELP gave you cuz it's inline w/ mine. Your Dr. will no doubt go w/ first date of last period, but I O early so that's not accurate. I'll go off of my own date and disregard the Dr.'s

This is what I did with my last pg....because they always ask you the LMP date and strictly go by that, even if you O on day 21, which is a week later. If you know from opks and all the day you O'ed, just tell them your LMP was 2 weeks before that.....make it so that your O day is day 14, kwim? That way, they won't give you a due date that is really a week earlier than it should be. My worry with that is that the doctors will cajole you to induce or whatever when you are really 39 weeks and not 40. But, that is just what I do so I have an accurate due date in my chart at the dr office. I swear, even this last time, I tried to tell them my O day and they didn't want to use that! So old school system. I even told them I knew as I took opks and all, but the idiot nurses just condescendingly asked for my LMP, like I didn't know what I was talking about. OK, sorry for rant there.....doctors can annoy me!!!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Update for me: So I took another thyroid test on Tuesday. It would've been 5 weeks on Thursday so I took the thyroid test again a little before 5 weeks from the last ones. My GP originally told me I could take before the 6-8 weeks but it wouldn't tell her anything. Anyway, this was ordered by my OB and it came back well w/in the normal range. I'm not totally sure I can count it since it's before 6-8 weeks, but I'm thrilled. It's a positive sign and I'm so happy it appears to be "normal"

I really only told 1 friend about my bfp so far. I think I'm kinda scared to share this w/ anyone. I guess I don't care at all what my friends and family think and yet I totally do. I don't want to see any disappointed faces or looks of concern. Of coarse if I tell, the next follow-up ? will always be if we got our autopsy results from DS2 yet, and I don't want to deal w/ that right now either. I didn't want to hide this pregnancy either so I'm not sure what to do. For now I'm OK waiting to tell and would like to get an U/S before telling I think. I wish people were just not in my life at all sometimes. If I never talked bad about anyone I'd feel better about telling people to take a flying leap and mind their own business and if they say one negative word out of "concern" or otherwise and I find out about it, then our relationship is in serious trouble! My pregnancy was so miserable last time that I DO NOT want it to be like that again. This should be joyous time, why are people involved!

Awesome news about the thyroid test! Hey, maybe it regulated itself quickly....you got pg after all! I am so glad....I hope that is alleviating some of your anxiety about it all!

About the telling people part- know what, you and DH need to do what is best for you and the family. Personally, I will not tell a SOUL until I see a heartbeat.....maybe will tell my Mom and sister, because they are my bffs, but won't tell many else. I do have several close girlfriends who I will likely tell (we go drink wine a lot, so they will know!). But, these are the people who I lean on for support should something go wrong, so that is why I am ok with them knowing. And none are assholes, of course. But, for you guys, maybe you want to wait as well, and only tell the people who are close to you and will be sensitive about DS2. And hey, maybe you won't tell anyone for a while, just let us cyberpals be your support! You are right, it should be joyous indeed!

[LolaInLove]

Lastly. It's Dh's 35th birthday today. Af is here. Guess my mouth is getting a work out tonight! haha. I did a huge photoshoot for some of our top fitness models in the bay area today. Talk about making you hate your body even more working with fit chicks. At least one of then liked me so much she offered to train me for trade. Helps being cute and funny. They might be fit but these chicks don't no dick about makeup! Thank GOD for me!! Ha. I crack myself Up!

How is everyone. 3PN, i see you had a good app and your announcing the big new at DD's bday party!

What else have I missed? I'm hungry. I got so excited when I saw I luv's and Kris's news I skipped everything else. I gotta go back and see what else is going on.

Sorry I have been MIA, My cousin wedding is getting close so we have had showers and stuff. BUT that also means My Attempt is getting close too!! Wahoooooooo!


Girl, TELL ME ABOUT IT. I run a ballet company that DH is a dancer in and am surrounded by girls who weight less than 100lbs and it makes me feel like a WHALE! But, right on about getting some trade, that is awesome! Happy Bday to your DH......mine gets the same "treat" on his bday, LOL!

[LolaInLove]

hi girls...BFN for me at 11dpo on a frer......so AF may show up tomorrow......

aggggg....back to start.....

I'm so sorry, hun. (HUGS) I know how you feel.

[LolaInLove]

Well gals, I've felt my first real twinge of GD today - just found out a girlfriend had her baby and her little surprise is a boy. I hadn't really felt much GD since Honor was born but for some reason hearing that she had a little boy really got to me. I'm holding Honor now and love her to death but still :( Just wanted to say on here as I know that DH won't understand really, and I wanted to tell somebody...

Oh, I'm sorry that bothered you. I think it is a very natural reaction, though. I totally kwym with "but still"....you know you are blessed and all that good stuff, but you STILL wanted a son, and nothing can change or erase that feeling. Best thing to do, I guess, is concentrate on the postives and believe that your next sway will work. I know you know this, but little Honor was meant to be a part of your family, and FX your little blue caboose will be here before you know it!

[LolaInLove]

Layla and Alexis, FX for you!

I am so excited, I just got back all sorts of test results, and everything was perfect. My FSH was 7, and my doctor said my ovarian function is not compromised in any way according to my hormone levels. And my thyroid and blood clotting panel came back perfectly normal also. SO....this is what she said: it was either crap luck to have the 2 m/c in a row, or my DH has a balanced translocation, meaning that he has a 50/50 chance of making a normal baby, but my doctor said she would bet that is not the case and it was just bad luck. So far, the Clomid has had no side effects at all. I got a few hot flashes on the first day of it, but nothing else. Jeez, I am just so ready to be through with this all. I know for a fact that the past few months have been a time of mild depression for me. All of this is just getting to me. The m/c, seeing everyone's pity for me, feeling hopeless, feeling like we shouldn't have a baby, feeling like we CAN'T have a baby....then seeing my idiot mean ex and his wife get pg at the drop of a hat and be due when I was.....it's just all a lot to take. I am surprised I feel as positive as I am sometimes, but I know it is all I can do or I'll just quit this all. Anyway, blah blah.

On to the positive, YEA for my good test results, and Iluvs!!!!! YEA for some good attempts and FX for some bfps soon! YEA for my upcoming attempt (even if it is at grandma's). And big YEA for the preggos now, you ladies who deserve a sweet healthy baby so much. YEA for beautiful little Honor and all of the healthy babies we all have! And big FX for us who keep our chins up and believe we will get pg soon enough.

xxoo

[daisyfay311]

Hey ladies, can I join this discussion? I was going to sway in May, stuff happened, blah blah and I ended up having my first attempt in July. I'm 8DPO and hoping to test one day next week. With my DD, we dtd one time three days before O and then I had to go out of town unexpectedly so I figured, well, so much for that. I didn't think about it during the 2ww because I figured there was no way it worked. Ended up having some crazy dreams and a couple of crying sessions, tested the day before af was due, and bam! BFP first try.

The point of telling y'all that is....I have no idea how to get through the 2ww. It sucks. Bad. I have soooo many symptoms and they're all soooo easily explained other ways. It's like I'm constantly having arguments in my head...

*I'm soooo tired.......well stop staying up late to watch Adult Swim, dumbass
*I'm gassy/bloated......shouldn't have eaten that Italian food, huh?
*My skin is broken out.....yeah, well maybe you have crap skin
*My underwear feels damp, maybe it's cm.......you're in Mississippi in July, maybe it's sweat
*My drink tastes funny, maybe my taste buds are changing.....maybe you shouldn't drink it after chewing a Flintstone vitamin
*My back hurts.....so stop carrying a toddler around on it
*I had a weird dream.....so do most people who eat Italian food and then watch Adult Swim

Arrrrggg! So frustrating! Logically I know I shouldn't be pregnant because how would I be lucky enough to have it happen again the first time. BUT I know I'll be disappointed with a bfn because if one time got me pregnant before then surely three good attempts should work this time. But I'm older....I know if I get a bfn I'll be picturing my ovaries with gray hair and little orthopedic shoes.

Geez. Sorry for the novel! This is new to me! I hope everyone gets nice happy blue bfps. :)

[Alexis2007]

Hey daisy!! I love your sense of humor!! Hope you get a BFP!!! FX

I know what you mean about the heat! I'm in Alabama! Hot as a firecracker!

[Layla]

Welcome daisyfay you are very funny. We have never had trouble conceiving either it was always 1st go bam. I did have 2 m/c between DD1 and 2 but all 4 pregnancies were 1st try. We did not use protection much while I was bf DD2 and I did not fall pregnant, but we were not monitoring ovulation either. So I am also feeling cocky and then slapping myself for it. FX for you your symptoms could be related to pregnancy so distract yourself with more Italian food over the next couple of days and then test. GL

[Layla]

Lola great news good luck sounds like you have a great shot for next month. I also had 2 in a row m/c in Oz they only do tests if u have 3 in a row they say 2 is just bad luck. But I did pay to get my tests and it turned out there was nothing wrong with me either. Then DD2 came 1st attempt no problems whatsoever.

[skrimpy]

Cheeky - hope you are enjoying your break =D

3PNB - I do think it's the "witching hour" thing... this little bedtime routine I've got going with her has worked a charm 4 nights now, so I'm knocking on wood and keeping FX that we may be past the worst of the fussies.

I liked breaded meat during pg too - chicken nuggets for the win, lol! I agree with you, meat going in is meat going in and don't worry about the breading too much right now.

OMG and I'm so sorry about the relative drama! I am right there with you - your kids are YOUR kids and what you say goes!! I'm glad you told BIL off. I hope things get better for the sake of your little 2yo neice and the bub on the way - that your other bil gets his act together. Glad your secret is safe though. So glad your mom is thrilled for you :)

Lola - she does spit up a lot but no more than my other babies have. I think her fussing with feeds was related to my let-down being super strong and overwhelming her. She seems to be doing better the past few days, especially with nursing and going to sleep in the evenings.

I didn't realize there were such side effects with the reflux meds - so glad things cleared up for your sweet DD once she didn't need them anymore!


Kris - the due date calculators can be wrong on conception dates (and due dates) - especially if your cycles are irregular or not "textbook" cycles of 28 days. I know they are always a little off for me b/c my cycles tend to be only 26 days.

Alexis - FX for you still =D

KSN - Welcome!

Layla - I would guess it's leftovers from DTD since it's still so early.

Hopeful - what do the rest of your signs look like? If you are having tons of EWCM I would say go for it, esp. if you've also been sticking to diet. If CM is scanty, I would wait.

iluv - I know what you mean about anti-climactic announcements. My MIL was bouncing Honor around the other day making comments like "she's so fussy because she wants to be the LAST baby" DH finally told her it wasn't up to Honor, lol, and that we plan on having another baby thank you very much! My mom acts excited but I'm not sure if she geniunely is whenever we announce a new baby :p

So glad the thyroid test came back normal! I have always tried to wait until around 12 weeks or so to tell friends/family. I think waiting until you've had an u/s and have seen your little bub is a good idea if it will give you peace of mind. I know how hard it is to have a rough pregnancy and truly hope that this one goes so smoothly for you!

I think that the prenatal and clo are good supps to be taking while pg - if you want to take salmon oil, too, that's good as it is higher in the EFA's clo is lower in, and clo is higher in vitamins so I think they compliment each other. But I have always done a prenatal and clo.

We used a baby hammock w/ #4 and as soon as Honor is a little bigger I will use it for her too. I really liked it, and so did DS, especially once he was big enough to make it move some himself.

Tink - sounds like your work is fun and interesting with all those gals, regardless of how gorgeous they are ;p I'm excited that your attempt is getting close!!

cemas - sorry to hear about the bfn ((hugs))


AAM - thank you 3PNB & Lola, it really does help so much to know that somebody understands. I am feeling a little bit better now, took Honor shopping and got her one of those little bath seats that can go in the tub as she seems to really like baths :) Always good to go shopping. I just skipping the baby clothes and went right to the other stuff - no need to look at pink or blue! Otherwise we are doing pretty good and Honor seems to be doing much better the past few days - not nearly as fussy :) I'm two weeks into the tummy exercise program I'm doing (Julie Tupler's program) and that's going really well. In four weeks I can start adding a full exercise routine to that. I'm looking forward to getting toned up a bit more! Looking forward to cooler weather - it is HOT right now!!! Oh, and I've been keeping up with my blog too :D

[Layla]

Daisyfay can I add to your rant:
*Feeling breast tenderness. Well you are wearing an underwire bra that is probably too small after over 2 years of either being pregnant or breastfeeding or (more likely) stuffing yourself with food on the boy diet.

I think you should make it a separate thread daisy with a sticky to be added in the 2ww forum...

[daisyfay311]

Daisyfay can I add to your rant:
*Feeling breast tenderness. Well you are wearing an underwire bra that is probably too small after over 2 years of either being pregnant or breastfeeding or (more likely) stuffing yourself with food on the boy diet.

I think you should make it a separate thread daisy with a sticky to be added in the 2ww forum...

Lol! I don't think my breasts have ever felt tender in my life but I have sure stuffed myself on the boy diet! I'm embarrassed to be seen! I keep hoping I am pregnant so if people are thinking that I've let myself go I can at least tell them why!

[begonia]

Welcome 2TXgirls! Of course you can join :-) FX your 2WW ends with a BFP!

hope.ful FWIW I ended up with DTD 2x 24 hours apart. I don't think timing is very important (if at all) though so I'm OK with it ... if this bean is a girl I sure won't be blaming that as the reason. What did you decide?

iluv I am so excited your results came back normal ... so far so good ... I know it is a long road ahead though but at least right now, things are looking good. Hoping those results helped you breathe just a little bit easier.

Lola I'm happy your results came back so great too! Wonderful news! FX you get a BFP this month ... your dedication to BD while at grandma's deserves some reward and I can think of none better!

Cemas I'm sorry you got a BFN. I know it has got to be hard to keep at this month after month. Are you still on the diet or are you just TTC at this point?

3PNB your family (IL's at least) are rotten!!! Glad your mama was thrilled for your news though! I was just visiting my family for the past 4 days and didn't tell them. They know we want another and they will be excited for us but for some reason I feel like I need to still keep it to myself.

Skrimpy I'm sorry you had a resurgence of GD. Totally understandable, and you know you can always vent it to us. I read your blog and saw where you mentioned you weren't totally confident of your ability to parent girls as well as boys. FWIW I think anyone who actually gives it that much thought as to consider that about themselves is more than likely well equipped to raise ANY child well. I bet your girls turn out great.

Daisyfay and Layla, hope you gals get your BFPs! We have a lot of OHW on here so don't be surprised if it has happened in the past for it to happen to you again.

Tink happy late birthday to your DH!! You'll attempt in September or October? I can't totally remember! Either way it is getting closer and that is exciting!

Sorry to anyone I've missed! Have just gotten home and read thru loads of pages so am sorry if I skipped out on someone!

[WashingtonPromise]

Can I join, too? My chart has been a little wacky the past couple days, so either I just Oed or am about to. I haven't belonged to a Chat thread since TTCing DS2.

Oh, I am TTCing #7....we currently have 4 girls and 2 boys :)

[TTC5]

Hi ladies, can I join you? I am 2dpo and in the dreaded 2ww. We tried our very first sway so fingers crossed! Sounds like there is a lot of supporitve ladies on here and I would love to join you.

Welcome!

[TTC5]

Can I join, too? My chart has been a little wacky the past couple days, so either I just Oed or am about to. I haven't belonged to a Chat thread since TTCing DS2.

Oh, I am TTCing #7....we currently have 4 girls and 2 boys :)

Welcome!

[TTC5]

hi girls...BFN for me at 11dpo on a frer......so AF may show up tomorrow......

aggggg....back to start.....

xoxo

[TTC5]

AFM - I am taking time out to lose some weight!! KUP!

[begonia]

Welcome, WashingtonPromise! I'll probably call you WP :-) Just for sake of efficiency.

TTC5 how long you expect to take off? Just curious. And figuring you'll still stick around here even in your sway-break... don't leave us!

[iluvmyman]

This is what I did with my last pg....because they always ask you the LMP date and strictly go by that, even if you O on day 21, which is a week later. If you know from opks and all the day you O'ed, just tell them your LMP was 2 weeks before that.....make it so that your O day is day 14, kwim? That way, they won't give you a due date that is really a week earlier than it should be. My worry with that is that the doctors will cajole you to induce or whatever when you are really 39 weeks and not 40. But, that is just what I do so I have an accurate due date in my chart at the dr office. I swear, even this last time, I tried to tell them my O day and they didn't want to use that! So old school system. I even told them I knew as I took opks and all, but the idiot nurses just condescendingly asked for my LMP, like I didn't know what I was talking about. OK, sorry for rant there.....doctors can annoy me!!!!!!

OMGoodness, that is so smart and I didn't think about that. Too bad I already told the Dr. date of LMP. That is sooo smart Lola! I wonder if it works out after the 1st major U/S and they adjust the date. Hmmm.

[iluvmyman]

Awesome news about the thyroid test! Hey, maybe it regulated itself quickly....you got pg after all! I am so glad....I hope that is alleviating some of your anxiety about it all!

About the telling people part- know what, you and DH need to do what is best for you and the family. Personally, I will not tell a SOUL until I see a heartbeat.....maybe will tell my Mom and sister, because they are my bffs, but won't tell many else. I do have several close girlfriends who I will likely tell (we go drink wine a lot, so they will know!). But, these are the people who I lean on for support should something go wrong, so that is why I am ok with them knowing. And none are assholes, of course. But, for you guys, maybe you want to wait as well, and only tell the people who are close to you and will be sensitive about DS2. And hey, maybe you won't tell anyone for a while, just let us cyberpals be your support! You are right, it should be joyous indeed!

Thanks Lola, I'm so excited the thyroid test was w/in range & I'm so excited to just be happy w/ being pregnant. That wasn't how I felt w/ my last pregnancy at all so that makes me feel better, if that makes any sense.

[iluvmyman]

Layla and Alexis, FX for you!

I am so excited, I just got back all sorts of test results, and everything was perfect. My FSH was 7, and my doctor said my ovarian function is not compromised in any way according to my hormone levels. And my thyroid and blood clotting panel came back perfectly normal also. SO....this is what she said: it was either crap luck to have the 2 m/c in a row, or my DH has a balanced translocation, meaning that he has a 50/50 chance of making a normal baby, but my doctor said she would bet that is not the case and it was just bad luck. So far, the Clomid has had no side effects at all. I got a few hot flashes on the first day of it, but nothing else. Jeez, I am just so ready to be through with this all. I know for a fact that the past few months have been a time of mild depression for me. All of this is just getting to me. The m/c, seeing everyone's pity for me, feeling hopeless, feeling like we shouldn't have a baby, feeling like we CAN'T have a baby....then seeing my idiot mean ex and his wife get pg at the drop of a hat and be due when I was.....it's just all a lot to take. I am surprised I feel as positive as I am sometimes, but I know it is all I can do or I'll just quit this all. Anyway, blah blah.

On to the positive, YEA for my good test results, and Iluvs!!!!! YEA for some good attempts and FX for some bfps soon! YEA for my upcoming attempt (even if it is at grandma's). And big YEA for the preggos now, you ladies who deserve a sweet healthy baby so much. YEA for beautiful little Honor and all of the healthy babies we all have! And big FX for us who keep our chins up and believe we will get pg soon enough.

xxoo

Wonderful post, Lola! I know women don't like feeling depressed and weak, but 2 m/c is a lot to take and you are doing great! So pleased to hear your test results are so positive and Yay for Clomid! I sure hope this is it for you Lola, you've been such a blessing to us here and I can't wait to hear you tell us you got a BFP. I know w/ 2 m/c that getting a BFP isn't the end of the worrying but I will be praying for you!

[iluvmyman]

Hey ladies, can I join this discussion? I was going to sway in May, stuff happened, blah blah and I ended up having my first attempt in July. I'm 8DPO and hoping to test one day next week. With my DD, we dtd one time three days before O and then I had to go out of town unexpectedly so I figured, well, so much for that. I didn't think about it during the 2ww because I figured there was no way it worked. Ended up having some crazy dreams and a couple of crying sessions, tested the day before af was due, and bam! BFP first try.

The point of telling y'all that is....I have no idea how to get through the 2ww. It sucks. Bad. I have soooo many symptoms and they're all soooo easily explained other ways. It's like I'm constantly having arguments in my head...

*I'm soooo tired.......well stop staying up late to watch Adult Swim, dumbass
*I'm gassy/bloated......shouldn't have eaten that Italian food, huh?
*My skin is broken out.....yeah, well maybe you have crap skin
*My underwear feels damp, maybe it's cm.......you're in Mississippi in July, maybe it's sweat
*My drink tastes funny, maybe my taste buds are changing.....maybe you shouldn't drink it after chewing a Flintstone vitamin
*My back hurts.....so stop carrying a toddler around on it
*I had a weird dream.....so do most people who eat Italian food and then watch Adult Swim

Arrrrggg! So frustrating! Logically I know I shouldn't be pregnant because how would I be lucky enough to have it happen again the first time. BUT I know I'll be disappointed with a bfn because if one time got me pregnant before then surely three good attempts should work this time. But I'm older....I know if I get a bfn I'll be picturing my ovaries with gray hair and little orthopedic shoes.

Geez. Sorry for the novel! This is new to me! I hope everyone gets nice happy blue bfps. :)

Of coarse Daisy. That's how I realized I was pregnant w/ DS2, I was calling my husband crying and super emotional.

That's so funny Daisy and very accurate. Getting a BFN no doubt will be disappointing for sure but there are many or most of us that can relate. You can absolutely get a BFP the first time and I hope that's the case. I do like w/ the 2 week wait though, that it's not long after that, that you can attempt again. How did you feel about your sway? If I got pregnant the 1st time I would've felt pretty good about my sway (except for the stupid mistakes I made).

My symptoms were i was breaking out (c/b AF though) I was more emotional then the crabby I normally am w/ PMS, I was watching my temps and was really bloated.

GL to you and I sure hope you get a BFP. There is no easy way to get through the 2WW though, sorry. :) Thanks for the great read though! :)

[iluvmyman]

Begonia, I also read to eat protein for nausea.

[iluvmyman]

Daisyfay can I add to your rant:
*Feeling breast tenderness. Well you are wearing an underwire bra that is probably too small after over 2 years of either being pregnant or breastfeeding or (more likely) stuffing yourself with food on the boy diet.

I think you should make it a separate thread daisy with a sticky to be added in the 2ww forum...

Good call, that would be a great thread! :)

[iluvmyman]

[B]iluv - I know what you mean about anti-climactic announcements. My MIL was bouncing Honor around the other day making comments like "she's so fussy because she wants to be the LAST baby" DH finally told her it wasn't up to Honor, lol, and that we plan on having another baby thank you very much! My mom acts excited but I'm not sure if she geniunely is whenever we announce a new baby :p

So glad the thyroid test came back normal! I have always tried to wait until around 12 weeks or so to tell friends/family. I think waiting until you've had an u/s and have seen your little bub is a good idea if it will give you peace of mind. I know how hard it is to have a rough pregnancy and truly hope that this one goes so smoothly for you!

I think that the prenatal and clo are good supps to be taking while pg - if you want to take salmon oil, too, that's good as it is higher in the EFA's clo is lower in, and clo is higher in vitamins so I think they compliment each other. But I have always done a prenatal and clo.

We used a baby hammock w/ #4 and as soon as Honor is a little bigger I will use it for her too. I really liked it, and so did DS, especially once he was big enough to make it move some himself.


Skrimpy! :nyd: I literally gasped when I read what your MIL said, that is sooo horrible. Why would anyone say that. Do you rely on them for money? Do you ask them to do childcare for you? I'm so glad your DH stepped in. That makes me so bummed. I swear if anyone says anything like that to me I might just smack them, and I'm not a violent person. :)

So you would take CLO & Salmon oil together? Hmm. There is a holistic Dr. online I like named Dr. Mercola and I think he recommends Krill Oil instead but I'll have to read up on it again. I'm glad I knew early so I could get right on the prenatal vit.

I don't know why the hammocks are not really in the states at all. They have some similar ones but not really that Miyo hammock that I have and is so cool looking. I sure hope I get it back before DC here is born. :)

Thanks for the responses Skrimpy!

[iluvmyman]

Hi ladies, can I join you? I am 2dpo and in the dreaded 2ww. We tried our very first sway so fingers crossed! Sounds like there is a lot of supporitve ladies on here and I would love to join you.

Welcome 2TXG, Glad you are here and GL on your 2WW. Just post your sway info that's on the main page if you can for TTC5 to add. How do you feel about your sway?

[iluvmyman]

Can I join, too? My chart has been a little wacky the past couple days, so either I just Oed or am about to. I haven't belonged to a Chat thread since TTCing DS2.

Oh, I am TTCing #7....we currently have 4 girls and 2 boys :)

Welcome WP! Wow you are a very busy little bee then, aren't you. GL to you, if you have a minute, would you give TTC5 your sway info, they are posted on the 1st page. When are you attempting? Did you sway w/ any of the other children?

[daisyfay311]

Welcome 2TXgirls and Washington Promise!

TTC5, I am sad you are taking a break, I was hoping you would get your bfp but I know it is probably good for you to take a break for a bit and then get back on track.

I think I'm going to test tomorrow (10DPO), will probably be negative but it's DH's birthday and I figure, if it's positive that's great and if it's not, oh well, I won't mention to him I took the test.

I think I had a GREAT sway for this attempt, I feel really good about it and I'm torn about August. I have cheated a few times here and there in the 2ww and haven't been as good. Part of the problem is that I've been working though (teacher, but I've been at some workshops and it's been really hard to eat as often as I need to and sometimes I just have to take what's available and it may not be boy friendly). So that makes me worried that once school starts in August, I will be screwing up a lot on the diet and that's the most important part. I guess it's always something. Even if I get a positive tomorrow/this week, I will just start stressing about m/c and then about the big u/s. I wish I could just turn off my brain and relax.

[iluvmyman]

I know I've posted a bunch but wanted to give you a quick update from the rest of last week.

I went in for a blood test on Tuesday around 4pm (like you guys knew) for thyroid but they also tested my HCG levels (pregnancy hormone). I went in again after emailing my Dr. on Thurs. at 11:40 or so for another HCG test. Apparently, they can measure your HCG levels to see if it's a viable pregnancy since it's supposed to be doubling every 48-72 hrs at this point. I will post some info about it in case if might be of interest to some of the ladies. Anyway, my Dr. said my HCG results look good, it went from 135 to 340. I have an appt. scheduled this wed. 7/27 at 9:45 a.m. I sure hope it's and U/S but either way it makes me feel so much better to go in right away instead or waiting the 9 weeks that is standard at Kaiser.

Here is the info. I think it's neat cuz I never knew:

Normal

The normal values listed here—called a reference range—are just a guide. These ranges vary from lab to lab, and your lab may have a different range for what’s normal. Your lab report should contain the range your lab uses. Also, your doctor will evaluate your results based on your health and other factors. This means that a value that falls outside the normal values listed here may still be normal for you or your lab.

Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) levels in blood
Men and nonpregnant women:
Less than 5 international units per liter (IU/L)

Pregnant women, about 3 weeks after the last menstrual period (LMP):
5–50 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 4 weeks after the LMP:
50–500 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 5 weeks after the LMP:
100–10,000 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 6 weeks after the LMP:
1080–30,000 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 8–10 weeks after the LMP:
3500–115,000 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 14 weeks after the LMP (peak):
12,000–270,000 IU/L

Pregnant women, about 15–18 weeks after the LMP:
Up to 200,000 IU/L


High values

If you are pregnant, very high levels of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) can mean a multiple pregnancy (such as twins or triplets), a molar pregnancy, Down syndrome, or that you are further along in an early pregnancy than estimated by your last menstrual period (LMP).
In a man or a nonpregnant woman, a high hCG level can mean a tumor (cancerous or noncancerous) that develops from a sperm or egg cell (germ cell tumor), such as a tumor of the testicles or ovaries, is present. It may also mean some types of cancer, such as cancer of the stomach, pancreas, large intestine, liver, or lung.

Low values

If you are pregnant, low levels of hCG can mean an ectopic pregnancy, death of your baby, or that you are not as far along in an early pregnancy as estimated by your last menstrual period (LMP).
If you are pregnant, levels of hCG that are decreasing abnormally can mean a miscarriage (spontaneous abortion) is very likely.

[iluvmyman]

Welcome 2TXgirls and Washington Promise!

TTC5, I am sad you are taking a break, I was hoping you would get your bfp but I know it is probably good for you to take a break for a bit and then get back on track.

I think I'm going to test tomorrow (10DPO), will probably be negative but it's DH's birthday and I figure, if it's positive that's great and if it's not, oh well, I won't mention to him I took the test.

I think I had a GREAT sway for this attempt, I feel really good about it and I'm torn about August. I have cheated a few times here and there in the 2ww and haven't been as good. Part of the problem is that I've been working though (teacher, but I've been at some workshops and it's been really hard to eat as often as I need to and sometimes I just have to take what's available and it may not be boy friendly). So that makes me worried that once school starts in August, I will be screwing up a lot on the diet and that's the most important part. I guess it's always something. Even if I get a positive tomorrow/this week, I will just start stressing about m/c and then about the big u/s. I wish I could just turn off my brain and relax.

Hey the stress of teaching should work out great for your sway. :)

[Kris217]

AFM - I am taking time out to lose some weight!! KUP!

I should have done that before i got pregnant, now i'm really starting to worry i'll hit 100kgs in the end! lol

[TTC5]

Welcome 2TXgirls and Washington Promise!

TTC5, I am sad you are taking a break, I was hoping you would get your bfp but I know it is probably good for you to take a break for a bit and then get back on track.

I think I'm going to test tomorrow (10DPO), will probably be negative but it's DH's birthday and I figure, if it's positive that's great and if it's not, oh well, I won't mention to him I took the test.

I think I had a GREAT sway for this attempt, I feel really good about it and I'm torn about August. I have cheated a few times here and there in the 2ww and haven't been as good. Part of the problem is that I've been working though (teacher, but I've been at some workshops and it's been really hard to eat as often as I need to and sometimes I just have to take what's available and it may not be boy friendly). So that makes me worried that once school starts in August, I will be screwing up a lot on the diet and that's the most important part. I guess it's always something. Even if I get a positive tomorrow/this week, I will just start stressing about m/c and then about the big u/s. I wish I could just turn off my brain and relax.

Your so sweet! I will still be around ;) I am getting alot of work lately so this is keeping me occupied!

[jane]

Hi all,I'm sooooo frustrated with my cycles! We dtd protected on wed night thinking I would get a +opk by sat but still nothing!so its 4days now of hubby abstaining,I'm worried it's gonna be too long,what's the longest time they recommend for holding on for blue?is it 5days or7? It seems like every month we've wanted to go for it,something happens!oh well,I'm waiting till 10.30pm to do My next poas,hope I get that smile soon!

[Zivic-Bubac]

iluv - cool info about hCG, thank you! I'm so glad everything is OK with the pregnancy :luck:

[Layla]

AFM - I am taking time out to lose some weight!! KUP!

Hello TTC5 have been missing you. I know that ttc boy and loosing weight is a big risk, but I do know 2 ladies who did just that and conceived a boy. They both in fact had trouble getting pregnant and they both went on an Atkins type diet with a lot of protein and a lot less processed carbs. Lots of salt and no sweet. Lots of fruit and veg and eggs. I remeber one of them telling us how eggs are really low in calories but full of nutrients and how she had poached eggs for breakfast pretty much every day. She has 2 boys btw and did they same thing with both of them lost weight using the same diet and then fell pregnant. GL

[Layla]

Welcome to all the newcomers and thanks for all your FXs girls.

Lola about your grandmas I have heard from people who have mixed gender children that their boys were conceived at a risky place or time when they could have been caught dtd by someone at any time. That is why I was happy we had house guests that were due to come back any time when we dtd (lol). So weekend at grandma's could be the trick for you too.

I am getting mucus discharge again yesterday and today. So I don't know what is going on with me. Maybe I missed O and this was the end of O signs and couple of days ago when I had the same kind discharge it was the start. But then I saw the same type couple of days before that and EWCM on the day we dtd. So who knows. I have been testing with the opks and have not had a surge. I have been also testing with my saliva O tester and have been getting ferns on and off, starting from the evening of the day we dtd. So I am thinking we could not have missed it surely. Ooohhhh it is all just doing my head in. TTC5 and ZB who was it again to tell you guys to keep distracted in the 2ww and not test till day 14, yes that is right it was ME!

I have to take my own advice and just keep myself distracted. Tomorrow night I might go and watch Harry Potter in the evening which will keep me away from this site. Then I will be half way there and hopefully find a good book to read. I got one that is called the 700 habits of ineffective parents. Looks like a funny way of teaching good and simple parenting skills might read that. Any other books anyone can recommend. The evenings and during DD2s sleep time in the day are the most tempting. I will have to cook in DD2s sleep time maybe make some cakes...

[Layla]

Iluv I was obsessed with those numbers during my pregnancy with dd2. My ob was saying that it is not such an exact science and that I should not obssess over them too much, but I could not help myself and to be honest they did follow that pattern pretty much while they were too low for 2nd m/c. So more good news for you luv. You definitely deserve it.

[daisyfay311]

Iluv--that is very interesting information, thanks for sharing!

Jane--I think it was up to 5 days abstaining but DH and I threw timing out the window, we just dtd three times, pretty much every 36 hours leading up to O. Lots of boys conceived that way and I want to get pregnant.

I tested this morning (DH's birthday) 10 DPO and got a bfn. It was a digital not an early response but I don't feel pregnant at all. Kinda sad. :( I know it's stupid but I was really hoping since it worked the first time with dd it would happen again. So irritating to think of all the work I've done in the past NOT to get pregnant and here I dtd three freaking times during O week with preseed and propping and it didn't work. I'm holding out a little hope that it's just too early but I doubt it. Blah. And we're staying with the in-laws this weekend and they made me drink chocolate milk this morning. Hello, diet screw-ups.

[LolaInLove]

Hi all,I'm sooooo frustrated with my cycles! We dtd protected on wed night thinking I would get a +opk by sat but still nothing!so its 4days now of hubby abstaining,I'm worried it's gonna be too long,what's the longest time they recommend for holding on for blue?is it 5days or7? It seems like every month we've wanted to go for it,something happens!oh well,I'm waiting till 10.30pm to do My next poas,hope I get that smile soon!

Jane, is your opk fading in, like you think it will be + in another couple of days? I would go ahead and have him release again. I wouldn't have my DH hold them in for more than 4 days, personally. The longer they are in there, they get exposed to the toxins in his body and deteriorate. To be honest, from everything I've read on this site and others, I firmly believe that 48 hours in between is perfect for optimal sperm count (and my genius awesome doctor told me that, too). If he does now, then you get a + today or tomorrow, just wait and try to have 48 hours in between, but if you don't get 48 hours, don't stress it. Don't forget, ladies, that timing has not been proven to sway and TONS of boys are conceived dtd every day, twice a day, with a 5 day cut-off....pretty much any bd combo there is!

[LolaInLove]

Hi everyone! Welcome new gals, so glad you are here!!!! I am heading out today for a day trip, but will be back in my office tomorrow and have time to post and read more. XOXO

[ELP]

Have fun Lola xx

[begonia]

Jane, is your opk fading in, like you think it will be + in another couple of days? I would go ahead and have him release again. I wouldn't have my DH hold them in for more than 4 days, personally. The longer they are in there, they get exposed to the toxins in his body and deteriorate. To be honest, from everything I've read on this site and others, I firmly believe that 48 hours in between is perfect for optimal sperm count (and my genius awesome doctor told me that, too). If he does now, then you get a + today or tomorrow, just wait and try to have 48 hours in between, but if you don't get 48 hours, don't stress it. Don't forget, ladies, that timing has not been proven to sway and TONS of boys are conceived dtd every day, twice a day, with a 5 day cut-off....pretty much any bd combo there is!


ITA with all of this 100%. Keep us posted Jane! Timing gets beat into our heads (well, not so much here, but y'know...) and I think from Shettles, etc people have it as a sacred swaying cow that can't be touched. The ONLY thing I would ever consider with timing is if you know what you did to TTC your girls, maybe don't do that again, since maybe for you personally that pattern sways girl. That said while neither of my girls were planned I'm 98% sure their BD patterns were totally different, so I didn't feel like timing was a huge part of my getting girls. Diet, diet, diet, I think!

Have a lovely time Lola!

Thanks for the tip about protein Iluv! I thought of you this am as I was sipping a (decaf) frapp. But then it got too sweet and I had to toss 1/2. I hate the weird things pg does taste-wise. I told my oldest, dearest friend this weekend since I got to see her (she has had 4 kiddos, though her youngest passed away earlier this year) and we were laughing about all the crazy things pg will make you eat. She loved those Totino's pizza rolls with her 1st pg and was telling me about them, and now I can't get them out of my mind, LOL. I'm so glad your docs are taking good care of you and getting you in early and often. Are you feeling OK physically so far, or any signs of sickness creeping in?Interesting about the hormone levels; I knew a bit about it but not that much, so that was really interesting. I'm curious to know mine.

Layla the discharge was a definite sign for me of this pg. I still have it. I tend to get some, even still EW, in the day or two after O. But it just kept coming in my 2WW. I'm SO ready for it to stop, LOL! I hope it is a sign for you too!

Daisy FWIW I got my BFP 10DPO but only on a FRER. I tried taking the digi at 11 DPO and it came up negative ... I was taking it to show DH and he was like, see?!?! You're not pg!! The digi only came up for me as positive at 12 DPO, with FMU. So you're not out for sure IMO! Happy bday to your DH!

[jane]

thanx:happy:

[jane]

still not had a smiley yet and ive been testing for 4 days!! :shrug:today im feeling like i have some ewcm though.:bigsmile: i did a fmu test(which i think is ok with clearblue) but nothing.:mad: i think i will test every 4 hours today but go ahead and dtd later on cos it will be 5 days tonight since dh released.:nails: i know when we had our dds, we were dtd all the time so im trying this way to see if it helps. this is so annoying, i dont know how im gonna do this over and over like some have to, i really feel for those who keep trying every month. had my breakfast this morning or should i say ive forced food down me at an unearthly hour:mad:oh well, ive had my grumble,sorry to be so depressing x

[Layla]

Daisy I really don't think you are out yet. It depends on the hcg levels for some people they start off slow and then they increase rapidly others are higher to start off with and then just follow the slower pattern in iluv's stats.

Begonia I do hope you are right. If I am pg then I will have you and iluv to thank for it the most for guiding me through the opk testing and replying to me so quickly.

Jane I know how you feel I found the whole when to dtd and when to release so stressful. I think if I am pregnant we may have gone a bit too early but with 48hr release so will see.

I keep thinking I will be better off with another girl. I really have an attitude of girls are better than boys for mum anyway. Do you know that saying: "A son is a son until he obtains a wife a daughter is a daughter for life." Don't you all think it is true? That is why I always feel so sorry for mums with no girls and really wish for them from the bottom of my heart, that they get at least one girl. But other people feel sorry for me for not having a boy. Boy mums with mixed gender kids always agree that the saying is true but they say that boys are really good for mums until they obtain their wife. They adore their mums unequivically, while girls tend to be more judgmental. They keep mum grounded that is for sure.

Anywho enough of my philosopying for this week I think must go and get myself distracted...

[hope.ful]

Hey ttc boy friends, I haven't been on here in a while, but here's a little update. We have been staying on the diet for four months now, and every time it's 'the night' either my hubs is gone, or we get a bfn. My temps are nuts, so it's hard to know for sure. I got an OPK + at CD 16 but had clear cm for three days so I don't know. I never have a 'real' positive on anything except the digital. Does anyone use a fertility monitor? With my DD2, I got the OPK+ and bd'd 12 hours later so I'm really having to trust that God will fulfill the desire he's placed into DH's heart. He's always wanted a boy. We discussed IVF today, and just can't bring ourselves to spend that kind of ca$h...yet.

[Alexis2007]

Hey girls!

I'm 3dpo and got my crosshairs from FF today! yay! Having some creamy cm and feeling kinda tired. That's it so far!

Daisy-the digis aren't as sensitive as the FRER, get one of those!

[jane]

yay! i got my +opk!!!!!!!!!!!! hubby still at work so we'll be getting straight into it as soon as he gets home:giggle: it will be just under 5 days since he released so i hope its ok. just to refresh,it is 12 hours after +opk that we should dtd? or round about?:think:

[hope.ful]

Yes, Jane 12-18 hours after the first OPK +

[jane]

im just wondering if its ok to dtd later on (cos he needs to release after 5 days of waiting),then dtd tomorrow which im quite sure i will ovulate on,otherwise it may be too early today...what do you think?how long does it take for sperm to regenerate?

[daisyfay311]

Layla, I think that bit about daughters rings true in my life. At least I know way more women who help their parents and connect with them and stay close etc. than men. And a lot of women (my mil!) complain about their sons not staying close enough to them, calling them and all that. Fwiw, I desperately wanted a girl first and in a perfect world, I would have a boy and another girl. I know about five women who have had baby boys in the past two years, all first babies, and every one of them wanted a girl. So yes, I do want to have a boy for my husband, but I am so, so thankful I got my girl.

Jane, if your DH doesn't have sperm issues, you could probably dtd 24-36 hours apart and have it be okay.

[jane]

thanx. i why is it that we dont do frequent dtd for blue cos ive read somewhere that if you hold off for a few days,the sperm gets weaker etc, also men always have sperm ready so i would have thought the more you release,the more you would get blue.then again,we had 3 girls dtd all the time.....aaaaaargh! my dh has been on sperm supps for a few months now so hoping they've given him a boost ;-)

[Kris217]

yay! i got my +opk!!!!!!!!!!!! hubby still at work so we'll be getting straight into it as soon as he gets home:giggle: it will be just under 5 days since he released so i hope its ok. just to refresh,it is 12 hours after +opk that we should dtd? or round about?:think:

I reckon that's fine, 4 or 5 days should be perfect :) 12 hours after ovulation is into girl territory i think...good luck to you!!

[jane]

does anyone know if its ok to dtd less than 24 hours apart for a boy? just wondered if we should dtd later then dtd tomorrow too,because thats when my o day usually is.....why do all these questions come when its just about to happen!!!:hair:

[KSN]

Hi Girls... can i join too? 3rd month of TTC.. currently on CD6..

[begonia]

hope.ful I hope this is your month! I don't use a fertility monitor. Do you temp or just use OPK's? If you've already had a DD by BD after +OPK then IMO I really wouldn't fret about timing this out. I'm not sure why the studies re: DTD 1x on O day carry so much weight; I know for a fact there are studies that say boys are more likely DTD 2 days prior to O and GIRLS are more likely on O day. Which is why I go back to thinking timing doesn't sway, because there are loads of studies, and they all conflict.

Jane, yes, BD 12-24 hours after the +OPK. Frequent release is meant to sway girl as it lowers count. That said I was just reading the thread in the general forum re: timing for a girl, and a poster mentioned a study by an IVF doc who has his male patients release every day, believing that fresh sperm is better quality, even if it is lower count. And he has 53% achieving boys and 47% girls on that method. Again ... studies on timing are just all over the map.

All I know for sure is you have to BD to get pregnant and you have to get pregnant to get your DG. So get to it ladies! :bigsmile:

Layla how many DPO are you these days? I've heard the same re: sons/daughters ... but I don't know, I think it all depends on the relationship and the environment they are raised in. DH is super close to his mom and talks to her even more than his dad. I am not that close to my mom and she was definitely not close to hers. Which is part of the reason I wanted sons; I just don't see the mother/daughter relationship as a close and loving one. That said I am raising my girls much differently than I was raised, so here's hoping the end result is better for all of us!

FX for you Alexis!

Welcome KSN!

Daisy when will you test again?

[cemas]

Wow....great to hear abt the good results Lola and Illuv....
ttc5 are u keeping up the diet in the break?

Welcome WP...2TX and all the newcomers

begonia, i am still on the diet...lightly though not too strict......and did have pizza etc in the 2ww....
DH takes a break in the 2ww.....

So AF came sat morn....now i am trying to see the time i actually ovulate in retrospec.....i had EWCM 2 days after O too.
But last attempt we did it before and after +ve opk......maybe in was not our month.
Anyways back with a new start...
Lately i have decided of not letting myself feel down.....just go on with life.....try to incorporate as much diet as possible and not fret too much. I trust that God will grant my wish someday soon...its only a matter of time....PATIENCEEEEEe..

[hope.ful]

By the way, ladies, I will add my SIL just found out she's having a boy (not a big surprise bc her hubby is one of 4 boys) but they are dairy farmers (and drink milk constantly) and they have a slew of boys, so I'd say the milk thing is out the window...just a thought!

[WashingtonPromise]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome. It is so nice to have company during such an experiment :)

iluv : I am so happy for you that all your tests are coming back well. I had 2 mc inbetween our boys. There was no explaination. And since we already had 2 children.....they just kind of said it was bad luck. Anyway we went on to have several more healthy children. It was very hard and painful at the time, but I have had several people come to me afterwards that needed support and I don't think I would have been able to help them as much if we didn't go threw that hard time. There is some things we will just never know the anwers to. I know you are going to have a great 9 months....I can't wait until you find out the gender.

Okay......I guess I put my sway here? Sorry if I put it in the wrong spot....

My supplements...

Folic Acid
Fish Oil
Iron
Potassium
I know there is one more, I will have to go check later.

DH supplements...

Fish Oil
Zinc
L ang
Potassium

Diet....

We are both eating more red meat (beef and vension), potatoes, salt, and bananas but we are still eating full fat dairy. Not as much as I could. I guess I am just limiting it more....less butter, sour cream, milk, cottage cheese, ect.

My snacks are gelatin made with orange juice, nuts, dried fruit, boiled eggs, lanna bars, bananas, oranges, cherry tomatoes (we have lots of these from our farm) and avacodos. I am not eating any sugar, but DH just can not handle even cutting that back.

Drinks... Tomato juice with salt and a tad of Stevia, Green tea, tons of lemon water, and coconut water.

This is our first attempt at a sway. I find it pretty hard to eat different with all the children wanting to know whats going on and why they can't have my candy bars (lanna bar) and all my "special food". Hubby just keeps telling the kids that Mommy's potassium is low and I have to eat different for a few months....too funny.

I am 3 DPO.

Has anyone ever had problems taking their temp too early in the morning? I have my alarm set for 4-5am and for the past 3 days it has been 96.6 BUT when I retemp at 7-8am it has been 97.2 all 3 days.
Oh, and yes it is very, very busy here.....especially this time of the year (when all the veggies and such are coming in). We also have dairy goats that hubby milks.

[begonia]

Anyways back with a new start...
Lately i have decided of not letting myself feel down.....just go on with life.....try to incorporate as much diet as possible and not fret too much. I trust that God will grant my wish someday soon...its only a matter of time....PATIENCEEEEEe..

I like your perspective Cemas. I think you're right to trust that it will happen for you, and I really hope it will happen soon ... what a fun announcement that BFP will be.

WP, that sway looks great! Too funny about DH's reply to the kiddo's questions! I think you mentioned you already have 2 boys. Did you do anything differently that you remember with them? Just curious; I know several of the gals on here who have boys and girls swayed for the boys they already have.

Which reminds me... I miss MFC! I hope she comes back.

hope.ful I'm in with full-fat dairy for a boy sway ... I think most of us here are. It seems like one of those things that research and anecdotal evidence don't seem to support. Atomic's part 3 calcium conundrum essay that she posted recently is great, I think!

[LolaInLove]

does anyone know if its ok to dtd less than 24 hours apart for a boy? just wondered if we should dtd later then dtd tomorrow too,because thats when my o day usually is.....why do all these questions come when its just about to happen!!!:hair:

Jane, the old swaying methods (mostly IG stuff) is so engrained in our brains, especially about timing and such....that you cannot dtd less than 48 hours apart, and even that is bad. Also that you should do it one time. Which makes your chance of getting pg go down the tubes since you may miss your egg entirely. BUT- this is the truth: sperm take 72 days or so to mature/grow....they replenish their supply quickly. In men with no known sperm issues, 24 hours is perfectly fine to replenish. In fact, I read an article (that was affiliated with a study) about it being BETTER for men to release every day, upping their sperm counts and their sperm's quality, as they turn over and have less time to be in the balls and get hot/old/toxified. And, there are zillions of boys who have been conceived dtd more than once a day, I promise. So, if it were me, I would try to have 24 hours apart, at the least, but if you can't, don't sweat it. If I were going to dtd every day, I would just make sure that my DH ate a bunch of protein and healthy foods during that period, that he kept his balls free of trauma and heat, and that he was taking vitamins and such to make healthy high sperm counts.

[LolaInLove]

Hi Girls... can i join too? 3rd month of TTC.. currently on CD6..

Hey! Yes of course, glad to have you here! What's your story??? Feel free to ask away!

[LolaInLove]

Hey girls!

I'm 3dpo and got my crosshairs from FF today! yay! Having some creamy cm and feeling kinda tired. That's it so far!

Daisy-the digis aren't as sensitive as the FRER, get one of those!

Hooray for crosshairs! FX this is your month, Alexis! By the way, saw on another thread you are a southern gal yourself! I'm in SC, and it is hot as balls here. I can barely stand it. And of course, everyone wants to go swimming and to the lake and stuff, and I am SO NOT a big fan of being in a swimsuit right now! LOL

Daisy, I totally agree about the digis....I use internet cheapie opks or I buy FRER ones from the store. I also ONLY use FRER hpts (First Response Early Result). They are by far the most accurate and don't give false positives.

[begonia]

Just was looking around on IG, I go check the old threads to see if any of our MIA ladies pop on ... and Frogs and Snails had her baby boy yesterday! She had waited for a delivery room surprise and apparently that worked out very well for them :-) Just thought I'd update that another CBBC member had a successful sway!

AND ... given all our timing talk lately I will add that she BD 2x ... at O-1 and O day.

[LolaInLove]

WP, you have a farm? AWESOME!!!! I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have a farm! Your diet sounds good. Just remember to eat protein and carbs together at every snack and meal, which it looks like you are doing pretty well. Just high everything! Do you remember how you were eating when you had your sons?

Also, why are you taking iron? Are you aenemic (sorry- spelling!)? If you are eating more red meat and greens, you likely are upping your iron pretty significantly, so if you feel that you are constipated, you are getting too much. I don't know a ton about iron and swaying, but I guess it's ok since increasing foods that contain iron are recommended. Maybe post for Atomic Sagebrush to answer in the TTC Boy forum. (I think you have probably gathered that she is our sway mod here and a ttc boy master!)

About the temps- your temp rises after you start to stir in the morning. So, if you temp right when you first wake up, literally no moving but your arm to grab thermomater and put in mouth, then you will get an accurate basal body temp. If you sleep some more and temp again, you are likely to have a higher temp from your body systems being awake and all. I would rely on your earlier ones. You must temp immediately when you wake up. I find that if I take my temp but I've been awake for a bit, even if I'm not tossing and turning, just half-awake, that they are a bit higher. I gave up temping a while ago, as it was too stressful for me for that reason, but I am trying it again this month. I have no idea why, but I just felt like I wanted to try it again! I don't think it matters if it is too early....I think you just want to have been in a "resting" state for at least 6 hours or something like that. If you don't normally get up till 7 or 8am, I would just do it then and not wake yourself up so early for nothing.

Good luck, and glad to have you here!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Just was looking around on IG, I go check the old threads to see if any of our MIA ladies pop on ... and Frogs and Snails had her baby boy yesterday! She had waited for a delivery room surprise and apparently that worked out very well for them :-) Just thought I'd update that another CBBC member had a successful sway!

AND ... given all our timing talk lately I will add that she BD 2x ... at O-1 and O day.

OMG, good for her!!!! We had LOTS of success in the Chicken Butt Boy Club back on IG, eh? I think we had only 2 out of what, 10 or so, have girls?

And excellent point about the timing.....another perfect example of how it DOESN'T MATTER!

[begonia]

I know, CBBC did well! I'm going to see who all I can remember ... you add to it if you think of another... but here's who I'm remembering at my 1st try:

WLM: Boy
Wantasonbun: Girl
Maz: Boy (at least going by the last u/s...I keep checking hoping she'll post too, like frogs!)
Frogs: Boy
Dolly: Boy
HOE: Girl
Aqua: Boy
Nutter: Boy
OTW: Girl
HAS321: Boy

So that is 10 total, with 3 girls and 7 boys... a pretty great turn-out I think! Am I missing anyone?

[LolaInLove]

Nice memory, B! Not that I can think of.....jeez, Wantasonbun really dropped off after she found out another girl. She was a riot. I just popped on IG since you were talking about it.....seems like there are a lot of successful sways- both blue and pink- in the last year!

[LolaInLove]

By the way, ladies, I will add my SIL just found out she's having a boy (not a big surprise bc her hubby is one of 4 boys) but they are dairy farmers (and drink milk constantly) and they have a slew of boys, so I'd say the milk thing is out the window...just a thought!

Shazam! I totally think calcium has nothing to do with more girls. I think milk and dairy add protein, vitamin D (ups the T level) and sodium- all good for blue.

[LolaInLove]

Hey Cemas, sorry you are having to go through this game for so long also. You have a good attitude, though, just keep on truckin'!

[LolaInLove]

OK, weird thing with me: have LOTS of cm now with the Clomid! Pleasantly surprised!

[begonia]

Nice memory, B! Not that I can think of.....jeez, Wantasonbun really dropped off after she found out another girl. She was a riot. I just popped on IG since you were talking about it.....seems like there are a lot of successful sways- both blue and pink- in the last year!

I know, she was hilarious! ... and she had a rockstar sway, too. I remember feeling sad for her bc she was really pretty bummed about DD#2. HOE was much more upbeat about it. Either way I hope they are both doing well.

I do like checking out the sways there since there is so much more of a history! It's always very girl-heavy though. Funny how it's supposed to be so much easier to make boys and yet here we all sit just working away at it. I keep reading that less fertile people make girls but I just don't think that applies to DH and me... how would "less fertile" people get pg on BCP's?!?! LOL!

[begonia]

Awesome on the CM Lola!!!! Maybe it's all the good stuff you're doing counteracting it? What CD are you now? FX that Clomid and lovely CM does the trick this month!

[LolaInLove]

Awesome on the CM Lola!!!! Maybe it's all the good stuff you're doing counteracting it? What CD are you now? FX that Clomid and lovely CM does the trick this month!

I'm CD9 today, going to start bding every other day beginning tomorrow, and opks tomorrow also. FX this freakin' works!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Okay, what did I eat when trying for my boys. Funny things is.....we did "try" for both of them.
DS1: I read about Shettles method (timing) in a magazine and gave it a try. I have anyways been a healthy person, so I was eating sardines with crackers (has calcium) and lots of vension(trying to use up extra meat before hunting season). I don't remember tons about what I was eating, but we were on vacation, so I was eating seafood too.....he is 9 now. Oh, AND he was conceived in......JULY!!!! I wasn't temping yet, but used my first OPK to predict O.

DS2: I had 2 mc that year and was temping and eating different things to up my fertility. I was trying green tea for the first time for EWCM, it did work. Oh and high levels of Folic Acid and had gained weight because of the miscarriages. And pretty much the same as DS1...except the seafood. Conceived in February...he is 6 now.

Honestly, not a whole lot changed in my diet between the girls and boys, but I do think it had a lot to do with quantity. My birth order goes GBBGGG. So, being busy with children and homeschooling I find my self hungry because I am not taking time for myself. Even now I catch myself saying "Oh no, I'm hungry again". I grab a handful of nuts and fruit and run to the laundry room before I am spotted. I eat a lot at meals, but inbetween is a problem. Today I had a boiled egg and OJ while I was cooking lunch. Have cut out sugar though, which I did eat with all the girls (and boys)....maybe it will make a difference.

As far as the iron: I am still nursing DD once a day and I am normally borderline anemic while nursing. I might be able to cut that out of the line-up. I hope it doesn't sway girl!!!

I think you guys are right about keeping yourself busy, especially during the 2WW. We have a playdate on Wednesday, special trip to the fair on Thursday (the kids have never been on any rides), and our Anniversary on Sunday.

What are you guys eating for Protein/carbs?

[begonia]

Thanks for taking the time to write that out WP! That is super interesting, because while it looks like it didn't change much with your DS's, it changed enough to be more boy-friendly. Especially DS2 it sounds like.

Oh how I looooove sugar. I cut way, way back when I was swaying and oddly haven't wanted much at all this pg. But pre-sway my normal diet included LOADS of sweets.

I typically am anemic during pg/bf as well. I would do like Lola suggested and write a post and get some others thoughts, but I would expect anemia to sway girl just bc in general less nutrients sway girl. So I would think you should continue with the iron supps.

Protein/carbs ... it's hard to get creative and it sounds like you've covered lots of my go-to's. Larabars, nuts/fruit, beef jerky and fruit, 1/2 a PB sandwich. I also kept hard boiled, peeled eggs in the fridge and would have those and a glass of juice.

Lola I'm so excited for you to get back on the BD train! :bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:

[LolaInLove]

Yes, thanks for writing all of that out, WP! Ya know, for some reason, if I had to guess, I'd say an iron pill probably sways blue, so I don't think there is anything wrong with that, but I guess I was thinking if you had too much iron it may be bad for your health in general- this is, if you were adding lots of red meat now, you may put yourself into the right iron level and the pill just tops you over into too much. But- I am not sure! Atomic will definitely know, she is brilliant.

Oh, and also, if you are drinking milk straight out of the cow, be sure to have a vitamin D supplement!

So, protein and carbs: if no meat, I do cheese and crackers, nuts and fruit, hummus and pita bread, peanut butter on whole wheat, yogurt and fruit, and sometimes a Larabar and a banana. Begonia will have some awesome suggestions, too.

Thanks, B! I am SUPER excited, just so nervous because I don't want to be disappointed again. Can't decide if I want to bust out the egg whites or do preseed with a big bsf about an hour before.....

[Alexis2007]

Hooray for crosshairs! FX this is your month, Alexis! By the way, saw on another thread you are a southern gal yourself! I'm in SC, and it is hot as balls here. I can barely stand it. And of course, everyone wants to go swimming and to the lake and stuff, and I am SO NOT a big fan of being in a swimsuit right now! LOL

Daisy, I totally agree about the digis....I use internet cheapie opks or I buy FRER ones from the store. I also ONLY use FRER hpts (First Response Early Result). They are by far the most accurate and don't give false positives.

Thanks so much Lola!! Yep I'm in Alabama and we're actually getting some rain to cool it off today. I hear ya about being in a swimsuit. We went to a friend's house yesterday who has a pool and I felt so self-conscious being in front of them in my swimsuit. I've got a tankini. No way I'd wear a bikini right now!! LOL Usually we get in our pool (small plastic one big enough for the girls but DH and I get in it too cause it's just too hot to sit and watch them.) and we have sprinklers for them too.

I told DH yesterday that I'm ready to be pregnant so I'll have a reason for this weight I've put on. Plus, I'm ready to eat things I like!

4dpo today and still lots of creamy cm.

[LolaInLove]

Creamy cm is a GOOD sign! Do you normally get that in your LP? I normally get some, but when pg, I get a ton, and it is a bit yellowish (sorry, ewww).

I feel like I look like a totally different person with this extra 35lbs on me......I just keep telling myself that in a year, it will be time to get it off as I will be running around chasing my DS.:superhero:

When are you gonna test? I usually hold out till 10dpo, that is when I got my last 2 bfps this year.

[Zivic-Bubac]

Lola, so nice to hear from you again! :)
I'm on va-cay in Greece :cool: and I want sooooo badly this is my cycle :luck: DH and I are both super relaxed, I swim in the sea and pool, and hotel food is excellent: potatoes in various forms every day! :rofl: Plus I brought here all my supps, DH was like: do you REALLY need all that? Sure I do :p

WP - iron doesn't sway :agree:

My proteins here: meat, beans, nuts ( I brought them too :oops:), eggs, full fat yoghurt with oat ( yep, oat is from home too)

I always eat meat with potatoes and bean with potatoes :p

[LolaInLove]

AHHHHH! So jealous, Z! Hope you are having a blast!!!! You know, vaca is supposed to be a good conception time! Will you still be there in a week or so when I see you O?

[Zivic-Bubac]

Lola, I see your estimated O date is 30 July! That's cool, I will probably O on Aug 1st, we're going to be 2WW buddies :)

And yes, I'm telling myself - I will loose my extra kilograms once I get my :XY: LOL!

[LolaInLove]

SWEET! I love me some due date buddies! We ABSOLUTELY MUST get knocked off the ttc list and into the pregnancy forums.

[begonia]

Oh ZB great comment on the proteins! Beans are a great source, and so easy too! I am envious of your vacay... Greece is high on my list of places I'd like to go.

Lola I'd go with the preseed only bc I know the eggwhite thing just didn't seem to do much for you last fall. Other than provide some comedy into the TTC business :bigsmile:

Alexis the CM is such a promising sign! Keep us posted!

[Zivic-Bubac]

We are on vacation til Aug 4th, so I'm on hotel restaurant diet for 2 weeks leading up to O - it's much better then my cooking :rofl: And like I said: meat and potatoes every day, lots of salads - I eat only tomato salad and just look with sadness to tzatziki, bo-hoo, I'll eat it last 2 days of vacation while in 2WW :p I buy bananas and peaches etc...

I deliberately didn't take OPKs with me because I'm prone to obsessing over them lol! We'll just BD around my estimated O date, of course checking CM and CP, I'm not THAT relaxed :bigsmile:

[Zivic-Bubac]

Begonia - we are in Greece because it is the closest sea, we went by car and it is affordable. We spent summer holidays in Greece like every year and I would really like to go somewhere exotic - Bali, Cuba, Dubai, maybe Mexico in some fancy resort :p but these are just my wishes, we can't afford the plain tickets for those destinations, let alone the vacation, so I'm grateful for Greece

[begonia]

We are on vacation til Aug 4th, so I'm on hotel restaurant diet for 2 weeks leading up to O - it's much better then my cooking :rofl: And like I said: meat and potatoes every day, lots of salads - I eat only tomato salad and just look with sadness to tzatziki, bo-hoo, I'll eat it last 2 days of vacation while in 2WW :p I buy bananas and peaches etc...


This is going to be fantastic for your sway ZB! So excited and FX this is your month!!!

[Alexis2007]

Lola-I'm not sure if what I get in my LP is considered creamy. Last cycle it was mixed sticky/creamy but there was a lot less than now. I have a TON now and it is yellowish too. Hoping it means something. Also felt some pulling in my uterus earlier, but could be I moved too quickly lol.

I might try testing at 8dpo with $ store tests. AF due on August 3rd.

[iluvmyman]

I'm CD9 today, going to start bding every other day beginning tomorrow, and opks tomorrow also. FX this freakin' works!!!

Prayin for you!!! GL!!! Come on BFP!

[iluvmyman]

Okay, what did I eat when trying for my boys. Funny things is.....we did "try" for both of them.
DS1: I read about Shettles method (timing) in a magazine and gave it a try. I have anyways been a healthy person, so I was eating sardines with crackers (has calcium) and lots of vension(trying to use up extra meat before hunting season). I don't remember tons about what I was eating, but we were on vacation, so I was eating seafood too.....he is 9 now. Oh, AND he was conceived in......JULY!!!! I wasn't temping yet, but used my first OPK to predict O.

DS2: I had 2 mc that year and was temping and eating different things to up my fertility. I was trying green tea for the first time for EWCM, it did work. Oh and high levels of Folic Acid and had gained weight because of the miscarriages. And pretty much the same as DS1...except the seafood. Conceived in February...he is 6 now.

Honestly, not a whole lot changed in my diet between the girls and boys, but I do think it had a lot to do with quantity. My birth order goes GBBGGG. So, being busy with children and homeschooling I find my self hungry because I am not taking time for myself. Even now I catch myself saying "Oh no, I'm hungry again". I grab a handful of nuts and fruit and run to the laundry room before I am spotted. I eat a lot at meals, but inbetween is a problem. Today I had a boiled egg and OJ while I was cooking lunch. Have cut out sugar though, which I did eat with all the girls (and boys)....maybe it will make a difference.

As far as the iron: I am still nursing DD once a day and I am normally borderline anemic while nursing. I might be able to cut that out of the line-up. I hope it doesn't sway girl!!!

I think you guys are right about keeping yourself busy, especially during the 2WW. We have a playdate on Wednesday, special trip to the fair on Thursday (the kids have never been on any rides), and our Anniversary on Sunday.

What are you guys eating for Protein/carbs?

Fellow homeschooler here, WP!

[iluvmyman]

SWEET! I love me some due date buddies! We ABSOLUTELY MUST get knocked off the ttc list and into the pregnancy forums.

Pregnancy forum, huh. I haven't entered one on here yet. By Due date?

[iluvmyman]

Begonia - we are in Greece because it is the closest sea, we went by car and it is affordable. We spent summer holidays in Greece like every year and I would really like to go somewhere exotic - Bali, Cuba, Dubai, maybe Mexico in some fancy resort :p but these are just my wishes, we can't afford the plain tickets for those destinations, let alone the vacation, so I'm grateful for Greece

Greece doesn't sound like too bad of a va-cay. We're here in California, so I'm sure I'll never get to Greece.

[iluvmyman]

Lola-I'm not sure if what I get in my LP is considered creamy. Last cycle it was mixed sticky/creamy but there was a lot less than now. I have a TON now and it is yellowish too. Hoping it means something. Also felt some pulling in my uterus earlier, but could be I moved too quickly lol.

I might try testing at 8dpo with $ store tests. AF due on August 3rd.

Alexis, you are better off waiting until about 12dpo to get an accurate reading. It will most likely be negative either way and it might just make you stress.

[jane]

thanx all for your help, we dtd last night 10.30pm. im not gonna dtd again today though cos im feeling a little o pains(i think) and dont want to do the o+12 thing.anyway,here comes the 2ww!

[begonia]

Pregnancy forum, huh. I haven't entered one on here yet. By Due date?

Yes yes yes, and you're in MY club, LOL! There's a due date thread for March here:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?4237-Due-in-March-2012

It doesn't move super fast but of course we're VERY fun :bigsmile:

[begonia]

And there's also a pregnancy thread for our "blue crew grads" .... http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?4310-TTC-Blue-Crew-Grads&p=61694#post61694

ELP has been cracking me up over there!

[begonia]

Welcome to your 2WW Jane! Starting tomorrow you are required to post symptoms so we can make sure to obsess properly :bigsmile:

[daisyfay311]

@Lola, I am excited for you to start ttc again, I have been following your story and really hope this is it for you, you deserve a nice sticky blue bean.

@begonia, you sound so much like me with the sweets and the anemia. Going this whole summer without ice cream (okay, I cheated once) has sucked so bad. We spent a week visiting my mom and she kept offering me ice cream and cookies and pie and I kept coming up with ways to avoid it. I think she thought my body had been taken over by an alien.

@Alexis, yay! I think the cm is a really good sign. Fx.

@Zivic, that is so cool that you get to visit Greece. Bet it's lovely. I did study abroad in Paris in college and got all around France and the UK. Wanted to get to some other places but ran out of money!

And like the others in the South, oh my gosh it is burning up here and I am so embarrassed to be seen in a bathing suit. :( I have gained 20 pounds. I start back to work in a week or so (teacher) and I am so humiliated to see my co-workers, I know they are all going to be talking about me and how I've gained so much. I just hope hope hope I get pregnant soon so I will have an excuse. I have unpacked all these "fat" clothes I swore I would never need again. I tear up just thinking about it. :( Luckily my DH is super sweet and doesn't mind, he would never make me feel bad but I know friends and family are like, what the hell happened to her? It's just gutting for them to be thinking I let myself go and not be able to tell them it was on purpose.

I think I'm going to test again with a FRER in the morning (12 DPO). If it's negative, that's probably it and I will start working hard on the diet again.

[Layla]

Begonia I am 6dpo now. I think if I got o day right and I really don't feel pregnant. With me it was severe heartburn with my 2 dds pretty much from day 1 and I don't feel that, so my guess is I am not pg. I know what you mean about girl mums meaning to be less fertile all my 4 pregnancies were 1st attempt. Looks like this one will be different though.

Wow about the success rates on IG! I am seriously thinking to go with the FGD if I don't get pg this month and attempt in October. I got the book from India, I just don't know whether I am capable of eating that much meat in one sitting plus a can of tuna. I keep changing my mind about calcium and milk. All u ladies and the Oxford study seem to think it does not sway pink. But reading the FGD that is exactly what I was eating just even less meat and I did drink 3 cups of milk per day. and I did eat about 5 veg and 1-2 fruits per day just no salt and no juices.

Btw my close friend just had the baby girl she wanted. Her diet is very boyish and has 2 boys already. They were trying Shattles only but she ovulated 2 days earlier than expected so dtd turned out to be at o-1. AND it was full moon when she oed. She and I were convinced she would have another boy (of course I did not say that I just said you never know maybe it was meant to be for you to try in a month when your cycle decides to move for no reason). Anyway she had her baby girl and I am sooo happy for her. Was pretty much crying when I heard the news... She is one of the nicest and most caring people I know. She deserves all her dreams to come true.

[Layla]

WP how perfect does your life sound. A farm, animals, 6 kids and home schooling. My DH and I also have farming backgrounds. I am sick and tired of my awful and stressful job where everybody is mean and nasty to each other that I do feel like doing just that. My family would be shocked because my grandfather hated being stuck on the farm his father would not help him get education and he was sooo smart. Although he never had the courage to leave, he made sure all his kids got education and practically kicked them out. My uncle (to the shock and dismay of the whole family) went back. So with my background if I did that they would probably disown me.

The other alternative I have been thinking about is teaching. What do you think daisy? I don't think schools are as bad here as they appear to be in the US. They do need teachers here. The pay I think is better here as well especially considering the working hours.

Anywho so much for me staying away from this website...

[Layla]

WP for protein I am eating lots of nuts. Meat at least once a day either red meat or chicken. For lunch either tuna and eggs or smoked salmon or ham or turkey or canned soups (as per FGD). I also have full fat yoghurt once a day to satisfy my sweet tooth as I am also dying for sweet begonia but am really trying to cut carbs.

[Layla]

ZB where in Greece are you? I have been all around the Balkans actually backpacking. Belgrade is beautiful. Just noticed that my saliva ovulation monitor is made in Belgrade. How weird is that! Or maybe not as former Yugoslavia was very technologically advanced was it not? It is called MyBaby.

[begonia]

Good morning ladies!

Daisy it was cookies I missed most, oh my goodness so much! But when pg I find I don't want lots of sweets so now that I can have them I haven't even made them, boooo! And I did a study abroad in Paris too! And then worked there the summer after college. Super fun!

Layla do the UK schools go year-round? I sure wish our programs would switch to that. I know Jen's girls go year-round but by and large those programs are hard to find here. Re: the IG successes I suppose it can certainly make one decide to leave milk out and look more at minerals; just about every gal on that list was on the IG diet. All of their sways are posted there if you wanted to go look at them. I'll be happy to see the results from all these GD sways start coming in the next few months!

[LolaInLove]

Lola I'd go with the preseed only bc I know the eggwhite thing just didn't seem to do much for you last fall. Other than provide some comedy into the TTC business :bigsmile:



THANK YOU for the reminder there, you are so right on, B! Decision made! FU, chickens.

[LolaInLove]

Pregnancy forum, huh. I haven't entered one on here yet. By Due date?

Yea, there is the Boy Sway Grads and then there are due in April, due in May, etc. threads. Are you in April?

[LolaInLove]

Greece doesn't sound like too bad of a va-cay. We're here in California, so I'm sure I'll never get to Greece.

Dude, I was thinking the SAME thing! So funny how IRL some of us live so far apart. I would DIE to go to Greece, or even Europe for that matter! My family lineage is from Prague and my DH's from Warsaw, and we'd love to go there someday. ZB, you DO NOT want to go to Mexico, it is dangerous. I would only go to Tulum (Mayan Riviera) or Baja, like Cabo if I did. But Bali sounds amazing! I think Babydes is going to Ibiza next year after baby comes.....lucky girl!

[3Pink1Blue]

Hey ladies sorry for the absence we've been doing lots of home projects lately. Not so much me, we've been painting, but I've been helping where I can. Catching up but only going back 5 pages so if I missed anything good please let me know :)

Welcome WP!! It doesn't matter when you temp as long as it's the same-ish time everyday. The actually # isn't as important as the pattern that will emerge :) Oh I'm super jealous of your farm, we are hoping to have a large garden for lots of veg one day. Not sure we'll have any animals other then chickens though.
My protein was beef, chicken and eggs, lots of teriyaki jerky and some tuna.

Alexis - I'm with Lola cm 4dpo can be a good sign. I had (and still have) a ton of cm from a few dpo. FX!!

Lola - I too feel and look like a different person with all this chub. I think the worst thing is having everyone think you just got fat, I so want to wear a shirt that says "I got fat on purpose, but please don't ask me why" Woohoo for clomid and tons of cm!!

ZB- Greece, so jealous! Never been to your other options but I've been to Mexico several times, I love it.

Jane- I hate timing, so little evidence yet so much stress lol

I'll have to finish my catch up later, off to meet dd2's teacher.

[WashingtonPromise]

Daisy : Did you test?!?!?

Layla: Funny....my family is from South Dakota where there is almost nothing to do, but farm. So, my father feels the same way....why are you wasting money on animals when you could have a new boat or vehicle. He is well educated and makes great money. Hmmm, dad just doesn't get it.

I was thinking about EW yesterday (DH would NEVER go for it), but if we ever needed a fresh one for TTCing...I could just go to the back year :)

I may add Vit. D if this isn't the month for me.

2 things that were different with my boys and girls pregnancy. I had aweful morning sickness with the girls and none with the boys. I enjoyed sweets with the girls and could barely stomach them with the boys. I normally love M&Ms, but with the boys I could only eat a few and they had to have peanuts in them.

I forgot to say, I normally get woke up by my BF DD at about 4 or 5am and if she doesn't wake me up then I either have an alarm set for that time (to keep time the same) or I forget and temp at 7.

I am in the same boat as you ladies.....have gained 5 pounds :( I know, I know....that's the goal. But, today I bought some weights at Walmart to help tone and build muscle instead of fat. They were on clearence, so I couldn't pass them up. I don't really need any toning on my upper body, carrying children and feed buckets takes care of that. But, my core is starting to look pg.

[Zivic-Bubac]

ZB where in Greece are you? I have been all around the Balkans actually backpacking. Belgrade is beautiful.
Layla - we are in Psakoudia, Philoxenia Bungalows. Psakoudia is super small village, but beautiful, bungalows are in the pine wood. Psakoudia is between Cassandra and Sythonia ( I know I misspelled it :oops:) on Chalkidiki.

Were you recently in Serbia? :) I have the same saliva ovulation monitor :wink: Yes former Yugoslavia was beautiful and advanced country, too bad politicans didn,t feel the same. Anyway, it was long ago, I was 20 when the country started to fall apart with wars.

But back on the brighter subjects: I think it's super cool you want to live on farm, I had ( still have) same idea too. I think it's healthier in so many ways - for living, raising children, for peace of mind. Maybe I think of it too idealistically? lol!

Off to dinner, I'l be back in few hours, can't wait to chat with you guys! :trips::heart:

[Zivic-Bubac]

This is going to be fantastic for your sway ZB! So excited and FX this is your month!!!
Thanks sweeti! :kiss: I can't wait to join you on Pregnacy board :p

[daisyfay311]

Tested this morning with a FRER and it was negative. I mean, really negative. Like, no need to squint or tilt, just abandon all hope ye who look for a line here! So...I am sad. I shouldn't be. Logically, I know it is absurd to think that I would get pregnant the first time but it just irritates the daylights out of me that with DD, DH and I dtd one time three days before O (and half assedly at that) and that was it and this time I we dtd 4, 2, and 1 day before O with preseed and propping and Robitussin and enough ewcm to start a damn slip and slide and nothing! I cried all morning and now I just cried on my lunch break from curriculum training. (although some of that may be from the training!) I know it's pms hormones starting up. At least, I hope it is. Geez, I hope I didn't completely screw up my whole cycle with all the anxiety. So....there you go. That sucks. I felt like I had such a great sway. I guess I better work on getting my August plan in better shape. Step 1...the grossly unhealthy but salty hamburger and french fries I just had at lunch!

@Layla--I am sorry, I forgot where you are from? Teaching is a great profession imo but it is definitely a calling. I teach in a great school (I know some Americans might be like, oh yeah? a great school in Mississippi? haha). It's a national blue ribbon school, meaning it has performed highly according to national standards. We have great parent support and great administration and that makes a big difference. I don't think I have it in my to teach in a challenging or troubled school district. Maybe before I had DH and DD in my life but now it would just be too much work. I teach 7th graders (12 and 13 year olds) and I really love that age group but not everybody does. And I teach language arts (don't judge my writing in these posts please!) so that is a heavily tested class with lots of accountability but it is also fun because we get to read fun stuff and things like that.

[Tink18]

HI welcome to all the new ladies!! I have started a diet. It's more like the "caveman diet" which i hear is good for TTC boys as well. and I am taking my supplements. What do you ladies think? It's lots of red meats and potatoes and all that jaz! plus you can continue to lose weight. So should i risk it..My attempt isnt for a few more months so I can do it and them really get on the "boy diet" ehhh I dunno. I don't know why I am so obsessed with losing "just a few more pounds" So lame.

Anyway, Dh's bday went GREAT, we ran into my High school sweetheart, who i was with for 3 year in H/S then he Mind Fucked me till the week before I met D/h which was 2 years out of H/S so that makes a total of 5 years he was a life ruiner. Anyway, He was our waiter. HA. The big football star that was suppose to go so far was a 30 year old waiter. So i gave him a 100 dollar tip. Since he made our bill 6 dollars, for 14 people. Then he stood outside and smoked a cigarette and watch me and my husband drive off on our Mercedes. Just makes me feel good that he cheated on me with 2 of my friends. Didn't graduate from H/S, lost his scholarship...and I have a fantastic life...karma is a bitch.

Ok. How are all my lovely ladies. I miss everyone sooo flippin much. I am soo busy!! I can't wait for things to slow down so I can spend more time doing my stuff! XOXO

[begonia]

All this farm talk and I have to say I for one couldn't do it! I love me some city. Love taking my ladies to the museums and the zoo and the shows, and love going to all the fun restaurants. That said, the fam is thinking about buying a ranch outside the city ... and there I will definitely be having some animals (besides my children) :bigsmile: I do love gardening though and can't wait til our house is finished so I can get my raised beds together again! So anyhow, I see the appeal but I for one could not do it full time. I could do part-time though if you need seasonal help WP :wink:

WP I think it is interesting that your boy pg's were different than your girls! My girl pg's were SO different I was convinced that DD2 was a boy. I think that contributed strongly to the GD I felt upon hearing "girl" at her u/s ... I was just SURE she was a boy. Oh well. This 3rd one is also different than either of my previous so who knows?!?

ZB I am living vicariously thru your vacay right now!

Daisy love I'm sorry for the BFN. Big ol' hugs! Get back at it with determination bc odds are if you got pg on a OHW before this won't take you long!

Tink the diet sounds fab! Glad you could pop in and update!

Jen I am somewhat notorious for painting my home all the time. I LOVE painting projects! I'm so bummed that when we move in the new place I'll be pg and can't do the mural DD wants on her wall. She'll just have to wait a few months for that Batman and Scooby-Doo she dreams of ... my sweet little tomboy. Hope DD2's teacher is great!

Have to run ... making dinner to take to a friend who had a little boy earlier this month. Can't wait to go hold him! I have no jealousy for her either, so it'll be nice :happy: It's their first and they struggled through IVF, so I'm just happy they have a baby! Cooking has been tough bc any form of flesh at this point makes me ... umm... not well, so I made a pasta salad and am picking up one of those rotisserie chickens. I did successfully make a double chocolate strawberry pie though :bigsmile:

[gizmo77]

HI welcome to all the new ladies!! I have started a diet. It's more like the "caveman diet" which i hear is good for TTC boys as well. and I am taking my supplements. What do you ladies think? It's lots of red meats and potatoes and all that jaz! plus you can continue to lose weight. So should i risk it..My attempt isnt for a few more months so I can do it and them really get on the "boy diet" ehhh I dunno. I don't know why I am so obsessed with losing "just a few more pounds" So lame.

Anyway, Dh's bday went GREAT, we ran into my High school sweetheart, who i was with for 3 year in H/S then he Mind Fucked me till the week before I met D/h which was 2 years out of H/S so that makes a total of 5 years he was a life ruiner. Anyway, He was our waiter. HA. The big football star that was suppose to go so far was a 30 year old waiter. So i gave him a 100 dollar tip. Since he made our bill 6 dollars, for 14 people. Then he stood outside and smoked a cigarette and watch me and my husband drive off on our Mercedes. Just makes me feel good that he cheated on me with 2 of my friends. Didn't graduate from H/S, lost his scholarship...and I have a fantastic life...karma is a bitch.

Ok. How are all my lovely ladies. I miss everyone sooo flippin much. I am soo busy!! I can't wait for things to slow down so I can spend more time doing my stuff! XOXO

are you kidding me?!?!? LOVE this story!!!!!!
i am also obsessed with being a CERTAIN NUMBER on the scale...good luck with diet!im trying to add in a potato a day with my dinner...so far its been about 2-3x/week on boy diet. i lost soo much weight right before the diet tink, then it immediately came back..i didnt give it time to sit i guess..but thats ok. i know i canlose it when im done!as long as i get my boy!

LOVE that ex-bf story!!!! love that you gave him a $100 tip. wow cant belive he made your bill $6 maybe to show that he has some power. im sure his boss would have made him pay teh rest. did he say anything to you? any looks? what a jerk!

[gizmo77]

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Which reminds me... I miss MFC! I hope she comes back.

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whered she go? i was just wondering about her. last i read from her was that she wa sback on swaying after having gotten her AF from a LONG cycle...?

[3Pink1Blue]

Alexis - I wouldn't try a $ store at 8dpo, I'd wait till 10 dpo. FWIW I used a Dollar Tree test at 12 dpo w/fmu and got the faintest line, you know one of those is there or isn't there kinda lines, where the frer I took later that afternoon was very clear.

Lola - I was lucky enough to go to Italy in '96, it was amazing. DH and I joke about getting to Spain where some friends live, vaca's are better with free shelter lol FWIW Mexico is only dangerous if you venture out of the "tourist areas". Stay in the hotel districts and on the hotel recommended tours. The hotel staff will tell you the safe and not safe bars/restaurants local hot spots. I've been there 4 or 5 times and never had any problems.

Daisy - Sorry about the bfn, how many dpo are you?

Tink - I wouldn't risk losing weight while ttc, I know the desire but are those few lbs really worth it?

B- my preg w/dd3 was completely different from my other two as well, I was also positive she had to be a he.
What is it about a fresh coat of paint that just changes your world?

DD2's teacher is very nice, we'll go to back to school night tonight to meet dd1's teacher. I seriously can't believe they've gotten so big. DD3 starts kindergarten next year, good thing I'm (FX) having another baby cause I'm kinda freaking out about this lol

[WashingtonPromise]

Z : I have to live threw you too. No vacation this year....we are taking a day trip on Thursday instead. Last year we went deep sea fishing on a private charter while I was 7+ months preggo, it was me, hubby, dd1, ds1, and my dad. It was difficult to reel in some of the big fish with such a big beely in the front, but so much fun AND both the kids caught a shark!!! I think BDing on vacation is so romantic, plus you will have such an awesome story to tell.

Daisy : Sorry about you BFN. I enjoy hearing about teachers.....they have such a big job. And 7th graders are at that stage were there really need teachers that are in it for the right reasons....like you.

Begonia : You can come and work for us anytime. As long as you don't mind being paid in bread and eggs :) Your right though, the city does have it's perks. And farming is hard work and long hours. We have already canned 64 quart jars of green beans this year.

I thought with DD3 that she was a boy....I wasn't as sick with her, I think it only lasted 3 wks. And I didn't want to get rid of my "cowboys and indians" room. But the tech was 100% sure she was missing boy parts and the room now houses DD3 in pink and green.

[daisyfay311]

Tink: That story is hilarious!

WP: Thanks for the nice words! I'm sorry if you have said before, but what kind of farm do you have? My family did not farm but I grew up all around dairy and chicken farms. We would go play in the yard and there would be cows mooing over the fence at us. :) When I was younger, teenager and early 20's, I couldn't wait to get away from there. I was always figuring out ways to travel to big cities and now I'm 31 and I love going home and spending time in the country. Go figure.

3Pink: I am 12 dpo so I figure something should have shown up if I was pregnant. Oh well, my V8 and my pretzels are sitting here trying to deal! Nice that you get to go meet your dd's teacher, my school is not doing that this year and I don't know why. My dd is too little yet but I wouldn't mind meeting my students' parents.

[LolaInLove]

@Lola, I am excited for you to start ttc again, I have been following your story and really hope this is it for you, you deserve a nice sticky blue bean.


And like the others in the South, oh my gosh it is burning up here and I am so embarrassed to be seen in a bathing suit. :( I have gained 20 pounds. I start back to work in a week or so (teacher) and I am so humiliated to see my co-workers, I know they are all going to be talking about me and how I've gained so much. I just hope hope hope I get pregnant soon so I will have an excuse. I have unpacked all these "fat" clothes I swore I would never need again. I tear up just thinking about it. :( Luckily my DH is super sweet and doesn't mind, he would never make me feel bad but I know friends and family are like, what the hell happened to her? It's just gutting for them to be thinking I let myself go and not be able to tell them it was on purpose.

I think I'm going to test again with a FRER in the morning (12 DPO). If it's negative, that's probably it and I will start working hard on the diet again.

Thank you, Daisy! I can completely relate to your feeling about gaining weight and feeling the stares and such. I want so badly to tell people why I have pretty much intentionally gotten fat. My mom asked me what is going on (and I only see her a couple of times a year, they live in Houston), and I told her that I barely ate and worked so much before ttc that now I eat well and it's just caught up with me. And OMG I feel like a cow for DH....and you all know he's a ballet dancer and manhandles skinny ballerinas all day....so it doesn't help with the self-esteem there. My staff members want to plan a pool party for the company in a month to celebrate the season opening, and I was like HELL NO I'm not getting in a bathing suit next to those girls who all weight a buck-o-five! LOL

Good luck testing, hope it comes up + for you!!!! Sounds like you are doing well on the diet....don't stress about a couple cheats here and there. Actually, ice cream is totally fine as long as it's full fat!

[LolaInLove]

ZB, hope this is a good month for you out there! I can't believe you are resisting the tzaziki sauce. I can drink it plain. Have a blasty blast!

Daisy, I just read on and saw you got a bfn. Listen, we all have been there and I personally believe that sometimes swaying can delay you a month or two, sometimes just because it messes with your body a bit with all of the changes. Not to say you should abandon ship there! Just keep trying, you will get there very soon.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- I think you missed my joke earlier, I want a shirt that says "I got fat on purpose but please don't ask me why" lol I can't imagine being around ubber fit dancers all day, ouch.

Daisy- great attitude, on to next month! That's great you're a teacher. I love meeting my kids teachers and being involved in class activities. I feel like schools/teachers need all the help they can get.

[iluvmyman]

OK ladies, I'm getting a little nervous here. In 4 previous pregnancy's this has never happened to me. I noticed earlier today the I had like leaked a little and it was slightly colored reddish (not like full on blood) I was leaking a little again and when I wiped this time there was actual reddish colored just pee on the tp. Is this what the beginnings of a miscarriage is like? I'm feeling not crampy per say but kinda feeling some goings on and a bit off.

[LolaInLove]

Lola- I think you missed my joke earlier, I want a shirt that says "I got fat on purpose but please don't ask me why" lol I can't imagine being around ubber fit dancers all day, ouch.



LOLLLLLL!!!! I totally saw that but had to run at work....I would SO wear that! But ya know, I just suddenly thought about how irratated it will make me to gain 35lbs only to have it "not work." Oy vey. I am trying to stay positive and say that either way is ok. How do you feel about that?

Iluv, thanks for the LUVVVVV! I am so praying for you too, hun...

Layla, I will try to find the threads about the FGD....I know Atomic posted about recent research debunking those theories, because the whole FGD was about minerals (the cal/mag for pink, pot/sod for blue) and only tested on lab rats, and many find it very restrictive. Not saying you shouldn't follow it, but just read about it.....I think it was posted in the "low blood sugar" post from Gizmo. I got turned off by it....but maybe there is some legitimacy to it? I know it cuts all dairy/calcium out, which I do believe is good for fertility.

Tink: god luv ya sister, you are a HOOT! I love your ex story. That is the fantasy of all women who have been MFed!!!!! I would literally pay $1000 to have that sort of scenario set up with a particular ex-bf. I am excited for your attempt soon! Miss you hun! My babies are currently in San Diego with their dad and stepmonster. Making me think of you and Iluv, you Cali beauties!

As for me: WTF is going on in my ovaries? They feel like little factories working overtime! I can barely walk without bending slightly. DH says each one is laying a golden egg to make our twin boys. LOL That seriously makes me break out in a sweat and need Xanax a little bit. Off to BD now!!!! BOW CHICA WOW-WOW!

[LolaInLove]

OK ladies, I'm getting a little nervous here. In 4 previous pregnancy's this has never happened to me. I noticed earlier today the I had like leaked a little and it was slightly colored reddish (not like full on blood) I was leaking a little again and when I wiped this time there was actual reddish colored just pee on the tp. Is this what the beginnings of a miscarriage is like? I'm feeling not crampy per say but kinda feeling some goings on and a bit off.

OH HONEY....don't worry, it could be nothing. Tons of women have little spotting and bleeding for no apparent reason at any time in the first half of pregnancy. Just take it easy and don't stress about it, ok?? I know, easier said than done.....can you go to your doctor in the morning and get another beta? That will surely assuage your fears if it had risen substantially since your last. Ugh, you know there is nothing you can really do....just take it easy. Hopefully it subsides.....keep us updated. SO praying for you and thinking about you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Layla]

OK ladies, I'm getting a little nervous here. In 4 previous pregnancy's this has never happened to me. I noticed earlier today the I had like leaked a little and it was slightly colored reddish (not like full on blood) I was leaking a little again and when I wiped this time there was actual reddish colored just pee on the tp. Is this what the beginnings of a miscarriage is like? I'm feeling not crampy per say but kinda feeling some goings on and a bit off.

Iluv a lot of women get spotting during their 1st terms of pregnancy and end up with a healthy bub. Spotting can be bad or it can be nothing. For me it was bad but it happened a lot later at 8 weeks. I was then bleeding for 3 weeks even though the u/s showed a bub with a good heartbeat and then I had a m/c. On the otherhand my sil had the exact same symptoms as me at round about the same time. She had period like bleeding for 3 weeks and then everything went back to normal and ended up with a healthy bub. If I did not get pg so soon with dd2 I would have been devastated. Happy for her of course but a reminder of my loss. I am really sorry if I am not helping you in any way, but the thing I learnt quickly about m/c is there is nothing on earth that you can do about them. They may or may not happen, spotting can be nothing or bad, u/s can be good or bad or nothing. My best advice is try to relax if you can and trust me I know better than anyone how hard that is to do. My thoughts are with you and I hope you get through this as you have gotten through worse.

[iluvmyman]

OH HONEY....don't worry, it could be nothing. Tons of women have little spotting and bleeding for no apparent reason at any time in the first half of pregnancy. Just take it easy and don't stress about it, ok?? I know, easier said than done.....can you go to your doctor in the morning and get another beta? That will surely assuage your fears if it had risen substantially since your last. Ugh, you know there is nothing you can really do....just take it easy. Hopefully it subsides.....keep us updated. SO praying for you and thinking about you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Lola, scary since I've never had this before. I already have an appt. scheduled tomorrow at 9:45 a.m. so that's great. I emailed my Dr. and he said not to worry but I'm worried. I do know that if this is going to end in a miscarriage there is nothing I can really do about it and the Dr's can't do anything. There's no purpose to sugar coat it since it is what it is. I sure hope it's not but if it's a m/c I'm not sure that DH will be willing to try again. He wants me to go in tonight but I'm trying to tell him that there's nothing they can do to stop it.

[iluvmyman]

GL Lola!! Get to making those babies. How fun that you can feel all those baby eggs and your husbands comment is adorable. Twin boys, that would be so fun. Be careful what you wish for, right. :)

[Layla]

Yes and Lola's idea of checking your hcg levels is great at 5 weeks this should be a good indication of where things are at.

[iluvmyman]

Iluv a lot of women get spotting during their 1st terms of pregnancy and end up with a healthy bub. Spotting can be bad or it can be nothing. For me it was bad but it happened a lot later at 8 weeks. I was then bleeding for 3 weeks even though the u/s showed a bub with a good heartbeat and then I had a m/c. On the otherhand my sil had the exact same symptoms as me at round about the same time. She had period like bleeding for 3 weeks and then everything went back to normal and ended up with a healthy bub. If I did not get pg so soon with dd2 I would have been devastated. Happy for her of course but a reminder of my loss. I am really sorry if I am not helping you in any way, but the thing I learnt quickly about m/c is there is nothing on earth that you can do about them. They may or may not happen, spotting can be nothing or bad, u/s can be good or bad or nothing. My best advice is try to relax if you can and trust me I know better than anyone how hard that is to do. My thoughts are with you and I hope you get through this as you have gotten through worse.

Thanks Layla, I appreciate the insight and I'm sorry to bring this up for you guys. I've never had a m/c so I wasn't sure but I do realize it is out of my control and it might not be a healthy baby. I know the thyroid increases the risk of m/c so I know I might have more risk this time. Just prayin it's not. Thanks!!

[begonia]

Oh Iluv goodness I'm so sorry you're experiencing that, and the stress/anxiety it brings with it. Thank heavens you have an appt in the am; FX it brings happy news of great hcg levels. HUGS to you in the meantime, I know tonight won't be easy on you.

[begonia]

LOL Lola at DH's comment! I am SO excited you're back on the baby-making train! Hope it's a good time AND makes a baby!

[begonia]

Oh goodness Jen, just noted you're 11w5d! Wow! You'll get a scan again on Thurs, right? Here's hoping you see a sweet healthy little bean hangin' out in there. I know you won't feel better for awhile yet but so far, so good! FX the next appt goes a long way towards helping you bond with the bean.

[Layla]

Daisy really sorry for the BFN. I love your attitude though and reading your posts. It is clear that you are a language teacher of some sort. My spelling is awful as well despite my education. I have never been good at details and always looked at big picture only. Your job does sound great. WP is right one should not go into teaching for the shorter hours and perceived less stress. But I did go into my current profession with noble ideas about changing the world and quickly got tired of ambitious people who seem to do good to the outside world but are not so nice to their employees and those close to them. Or maybe I am being unkind and maybe constantly fighting misery simply makes one miserable. I don't think I have become that person yet, so maybe getting out while I can and teaching at a nice school like yours and passing on my love of literature and history to kids who care to listen and spend more time with my own family is not such a bad idea afterall. Looks like despite disagreeing with atomic so much I am a true girl mother and when faced with difficulty I would rather flight then fight.

I think I am definitely romanticising the idea of a farm though WP . It is so much hard work and the weather being crazy lately with drought and floods and storms all in one crop season. My heart goes out to you farming lot you are fighting nature non stop and that is the toughest job yet. GL to you and keep up that fighting spirit.

[iluvmyman]

Oh Iluv goodness I'm so sorry you're experiencing that, and the stress/anxiety it brings with it. Thank heavens you have an appt in the am; FX it brings happy news of great hcg levels. HUGS to you in the meantime, I know tonight won't be easy on you.

Thanks B! I'm planning on going to bed in a minute here as it's been a stressful 2 weeks an I'm tired. DH is putting the kids to bed by himself for me again tonight. He drew me a very nice candle light bubble bath last night and put the kids to bed. Then he made up this sexual game w/ Toy Story UNO Cards that we played...there's always a price. :) A-n-y-w-a-y! :) I'm going to assume my OB will have me take some blood tests tomorrow after my appt. and I have to remember not to pee right before I get there so I can make lovely pee pee in a cup. Always fun!

Thanks Ladies, you rock!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- I'm hoping if it's a girl my fat ass will be the physical proof I did all I could, but yes I'll be a bit bitter. Fx!!

Iluv- fx it's nothing, let us know what you find out tomorrow!

[Layla]

ZB I went to Belgrade (it was more of a transit though) in 2001. So it was not good time soon after the troubles over there. Most people were very nice. I find that generally Europeans like Australians and are see us a jolly lot without too much impact on the rest of the world good or bad so we are well accepted everywhere we go. I haven't been to any of those places in Greece but they sound fab.

I have been to most places in Europe (capital cities anyway). In Australia one must do a European trip either before or after uni. We get working holiday visas to live and work in the UK and then save up money and stay at dodgy backpacking places or go camping. But we do see Europe before kids arrive that way. I would love to go to the States next. All the glits and glamour of your country is very different to everything I have seen so far. Would love to c the main cities but would not mind visiting some of the other places too. Maybe one day when kids are big enough to enjoy Disneyland. Although the aussie dollar is so good lately it might be a good idea to go sooner rather than later (if only I had the money and was not thinking of a career change!!!).

Anywho more creamy mucus for me today after 2 very dry days. Thanks Lola about the FGD advice. I really should not try it considering my family's health history, but it is tempting and both IG and this website do agree it works. As bad as it is, it does actually work!

[Layla]

Lola- I'm hoping if it's a girl my fat ass will be the physical proof I did all I could, but yes I'll be a bit bitter. Fx!!

Iluv- fx it's nothing, let us know what you find out tomorrow!

3pink you can't find out at the 12 week u/s can you? I thought one can only find out at 19 weeks? GL anyway put some pictures up of that lovely baby so we can all have a guess what it is.

Iluv please keep us posted.

[Kris217]

Yes and Lola's idea of checking your hcg levels is great at 5 weeks this should be a good indication of where things are at.

I'm 5 weeks today and my hcg is 1703 :)

[cemas]

Oh Illuv....i hope all goes fine with you. i had a m/c in feb. it did start with spotting but the spotting went on increasing. it sounds like urs is hardly any , so u should be really fine.
i would just advice to take as much rest as possible with ur legs up. i know u can do nothing if it has to happen , but i just felt that i should have stayed up in bed. i went for a social outing and the next day onwards the spotting increased , before that even with the spotting my beta levels were growing good and my doc seemed all ok.
So just try to rest. That may help or not but atleast u tried.....just my experiance.
praying all goes well......i can understand what u r going thru....tc hun

[begonia]

It is so much hard work and the weather being crazy lately with drought and floods and storms all in one crop season. My heart goes out to you farming lot you are fighting nature non stop and that is the toughest job yet. GL to you and keep up that fighting spirit.

ITA with this!

Iluv what a sweetie your DH is! LOL to their being a little string attached, but still, it's thoughtful for sure! My DH would have just not have even thought about the bath part and gone straight for the action :mad: Keep us posted after the appointment, FX all is well with you and the bean.

Great news Kris!!

Layla glad you're still seeing all the CM; that for me was definitely a sign! And still is, good gracious, the stuff won't STOP.

[WashingtonPromise]

iluv : I spotted with a couple of my pregnancies and everything was fine....my midwife said sometimes your body is trying to figure out how much blood to make in the beginning and can make too much causing spotting or just hormones in general. With DS2 and DD3 I spotted bright red blood for 2 days and when I went for a scan I was losing a twin....both times. That was crazy, I don't have any living twins nor do they run in my family, but my doc said NEVER to go on clomid. I will keep you in my prayers.

Daisy : We have a small farm. We grow corn, beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, cantalope, watermelon, peppers, turnips, pumpkins, lettuce, herbs, sunflowers, and so much more. Most of what we grow is for our family and we do sell to the local markets and to our milk customers. We milk Nubian dairy goats and Jersey dairy cows. Oh, we also have meat and egg chickens, turkeys, ducks, rabbits (for manure), and pigs. Each child also has their own breed of chickens for show or just for fun....they love it, but they have to care for them.We can not pay our bills with just the farm money (unless we let the goverment rule us), so my husband also has a full time job.....Police Dept investigator. As farm as drought, Last year we had almost no rain and lost almost all the crops. This year we lost half the corn to a tornado, but the rain has come more frequent.

And yes we LOVE having the farm and wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. It makes it hard to go on vacation, but laying under the stars with the one I love makes it all worth it. We lived in a community for 4 years and this is where we belong.


Okay pregnancy signs....not sure if this counts, but I have been so thirsty. I am still drinking the extact same amount and kind of liquid....it is just not doing it. My temp jumped from 97 to 97.2

[3Pink1Blue]

Layla - no you can't find out at 12 wks, not sure if we'll find out at all actually. Hoping for a nub shot but we'll see.

WP - super thirsty sure kicked in for me! FX

[LolaInLove]

Iluv, I hope your appt goes well and your hcg level looks good. Really try not to worry until you need to....like all said, LOTS of women have normal spotting and all is fine. Give your DH a hug from all of us for being a sweet pea and helping you out.

3pnb, I can't wait to see your nub shot!

WP, good for you for not letting the gov't rule your farm, I love it! And that is crazy that they think you lost a twin twice in a row! Perhaps that happens more often than we know. But yes, no Clomid for you! Seems like you don't need it anyway!

Kris, glad all is looking well for you, hun. I absolutely love your story.....so awesome that you and Sarah did this all yourselves without the hassle of ART. So excited for you!

Thanks everyone for the sweet wishes, I hope you all are right and this is a good month for not just myself. DH and I are excited, we had fun last night, and you all will get a kick out of this: he told me this morning he is going to eat a ton of healthy stuff this week because this is the week his "boys are performing on stage." LOL.....such a dork. (That's a work reference for him, for those who don't know I have the priviledge to have a giant man-child artist for a husband....he's a ballet dancer.)

[hope.ful]

Iluv, praying things go well. Keep us posted.

Lola, I secretly think twin boys would be fun but then the thought of carrying them 9 months frightens me! You never know!!

I am just hanging out waiting for AF to come and go so we can ttc our boy. Its been so wierd, AF has come on the 6th day of the last three months! I wish O day was as predictable as AF!! When you OPK test, does anyone only see very light test lines? I am glad I got the digital OPK but the test line on the strip only has a small strip of it thats as dark as the control line, but it still shows :) Wierd!

[LolaInLove]

Hopeful, that is exactly how I feel about twins....my friends that have had them went early, of course, and had to eat a pantload and gain a bunch of weight (ugh) and one was on bedrest for a month.....I know it would be a high risk pregnancy, which does not excite me, but hey, if I get two, then I will just have to make it my mission during that time to be a super health nut!

Hmmm, about your opks....they are only truly positive when the test line is easily darker than the control, although some ladies get one that looks identical to the control line. The day before mine turns truly positive, I get one like you describe where the test line is like a fade, with a dark strip and the rest is lighter. I definitely get fade-ins for a few days. I've done enough of them now to know my fade-in pattern to a T, and I only use internet cheapie opks from earlypregnancytest.com. (Although I only use FRER hpts.) Hopefully that digi will help you nail it down. I hope that answers your question!

[begonia]

Wow, WP, that is interesting re: the twins both times. Twins do run in my fam. Last night I dreamt that I was getting my dating scan (I have my appt tomorrow) and they saw twins, and I was BAWLING because I didn't know how to tell DH. It was a rotten dream. I hope it doesn't come true.

I didn't realize you'd already attempted to get pg WP! So are you in the 2WW now? How many DPO? I don't know how I missed it!

hope.ful my digi would turn + and not look like a +OPK, where the test was darker than control. That happened to me on the cycle we got pg. My cycles changed a couple of times during the course of the diet though ... I used to get very obvious +OPKs and then had a couple cycles where I either missed my surge (which I just don't think happened) or never got a full +. Trust those digi's though! You might not be able to have the advantage of seeing a fade in pattern which definitely helps in terms of planning the abstinence, etc, but you can certainly trust that if it smiles at you you've got it!

Was hoping we'd have an iluv update but it's still early in Cali. FX all is well love!

[LolaInLove]

Layla, I found the thread where ladies are discussing FGD- not the whole forum, it's another thread where Atomic discusses the cons of it. Just FYI: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?4480-hunger-or-low-blood-sugar/page5

[Tink18]

ILUV, I hope it's just normal spotting. Remember every pregnancy is differentiable even after so many! FX for you! XOXO

3P! I Am so excited to see you pics! How are the inlaws??? Any new stories?


Kris, Those numbers are great!! Im so excited for you! I still cant get over you guys made this happen on your own, you rock!

Begonia, How are you feeling!

Lola, are the girls having fun in SD? When is your attempt, I may have missed the page there have been so many pages I try to read but its so hard to keep up!

About my Ex, I looked super hot that night too I had on this black corset and Jeans and platform wedges. Bright red lips! When I walked in after some of my friends he had his back to me and was chatting with them. I walked over to him and didn't even recognize "Adam" from the back He turned and the look on his face was enough. He hugged me and he was shaking. Keith (DH) walked over and they chatted for a second. We all know each other as we all went to same HS. Dh is a little older...and hotter! ha! He asked what I have been doing and I just rapped it off, Happily for him, I said well, "Keith and i have been married for over 4 years, we have a beautiful little girl, We own a house in Campbell, we own a company with my 2 brothers (the despise him that were there that night LOL), Keith works in the union, I'm still a makeup artist/esthetician, I said life is really good. I can't complain. I said what are you Doing these days? He said "um just working here and you know living life" For the entire night he found any reason to talk to me...all my girl friends we like he still loves you its so obvious. Whatever..him loving me or not is not my concern. I have a fantastic life and a great husband...being able to give him a big fuck you made my life! I think any girl knows when any ex and especially your HS sweet heart Fucks you over hard core, later in life being able to have the situation I did was truly epic. My husband knew how good it made me feel. He was so proud of me that night. And before we left the house, he goes "do you need to wear that top, you boobs look too good. I don't want everyone staring at you!" I said Yes babe its your birthday, I have to look extra special! So later he tells me "thank god you wore this, cause you look so hot! Adam must be kicking himself for giving you up"

So naturally He was rewarded greatly.

The end.

[gizmo77]

tink, love it! ;-)

[begonia]

tink, love it! ;-)

Me too!

I feel great today, thanks for asking Tink! Which is odd bc I was sure yesterday I was going to loose my lunch. I'm finding I just have to be very, very careful about eating regularly AND be very careful about what I choose to eat. So far, so good... if this is as bad as it gets I'm thanking my lucky stars for sure!

Now if we could just get a break from this heat! Good heavens it hasn't been below 100 since June :mad:

Off to the gym; since I'm actually feeling like a normal person today I'm going to take advantage of it :bigsmile:

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, you need to get a ticker so I can keep tabs on how far along you are!

Tink, that story rocks! LOL

Hope all is well with Iluv......

[WashingtonPromise]

It was a little weird being told I was expecting twins. The first time I went in at 6 wks due to spotting and they could only find one heartbeat and baby #2 was a week smaller. With the second twin pregnancy they were fine until about 10 wks and then one passed away. I had nose bleeds for the entire time with both of those pregnancies and the OB thought it was due to too much blood being produced for only one baby.....who knows.

I am 5 dpo.

I did 50 sqauts with my weights yesterday while my slave driver (DH) encouraged me. I could barely get down the stairs this morning. But he says it will get better. I am not really trying to loss weight....just tone down to fit in my pants better. I know that sounds crazy since I am trying to get pg, but I know want to be in maternity clothes from day1.

Begonia: Do you have nausea your entire pregnancy? or just 1st trimester? GL tomorrow.

See you guys Friday (we will be gone tomorrow)

[lightofmylife]

hi ladies , im going to try in august so can i be in one more time ??
iluv im really sorry you are facing bleeding problem , Do you know about Aabroo ?? she was our group member in TTC in start of this year , she also had bleeding in his early pregnancy and was on bed rest for almost 3 months, but she is now perfectly fine and is told BOY :)
big congratss for all girls who got BFP
and good luck for ladies in TTC journey :)

[Alexis2007]

6dpo today...very tired, headache, stuffy nose, dry mouth, very hungry, still loads of cm.

Oh and I just ate a banana....with pickles? What is up with that?! Lol

[daisyfay311]

Iluv--so sorry about the spotting :( but there is still an excellent chance that's perfectly normal and will pass. fx.

Lola--so cool about your husband's job! My mil is on the board for the International Ballet Competition that comes to Jackson, MS every four years so we always go see all the performances. I don't have much knowledge about it, mostly it's "oohh costumes pretty, jumps high" but it's fun times.

3Pink--I've been meaning to tell you I love your daughters' names! They're all very pretty and they go well together.

I had a dream last weekend I was having twins. Scared the crap out of me! All I would be able to think about is daycare bills, lol!

[iluvmyman]

I've got to run but quick update, the Dr. said everything looked fine. The in office U/S showed 1 sac & my HCG levels from today came back and this was the email: "The HCG went from 340 about 6 days ago to 5259 today. This rise is consistent with a normal pregnancy for now."

The light spotting has subsided for now but I still feel off in my tummy. Hopefully all is well and I have another appt. on Tuesday (6 weeks and maybe a heartbeat can be seen). PHEW!!!! Thanks everyone and I'll keep praying all is well.

[hope.ful]

I've got to run but quick update, the Dr. said everything looked fine. The in office U/S showed 1 sac & my HCG levels from today came back and this was the email: "The HCG went from 340 about 6 days ago to 5259 today. This rise is consistent with a normal pregnancy for now."

The light spotting has subsided for now but I still feel off in my tummy. Hopefully all is well and I have another appt. on Tuesday (6 weeks and maybe a heartbeat can be seen). PHEW!!!! Thanks everyone and I'll keep praying all is well.

Praise God everything looks good! We'll keep up the prayers and you take care!

[hope.ful]

Hopeful, that is exactly how I feel about twins....my friends that have had them went early, of course, and had to eat a pantload and gain a bunch of weight (ugh) and one was on bedrest for a month.....I know it would be a high risk pregnancy, which does not excite me, but hey, if I get two, then I will just have to make it my mission during that time to be a super health nut!

Hmmm, about your opks....they are only truly positive when the test line is easily darker than the control, although some ladies get one that looks identical to the control line. The day before mine turns truly positive, I get one like you describe where the test line is like a fade, with a dark strip and the rest is lighter. I definitely get fade-ins for a few days. I've done enough of them now to know my fade-in pattern to a T, and I only use internet cheapie opks from earlypregnancytest.com. (Although I only use FRER hpts.) Hopefully that digi will help you nail it down. I hope that answers your question!

Thanks, Lola! Like you said, I just have to trust the digitals and not worry about the rest. I guess I'm just curious why in the world mine are positive when they're so light. Oh well, probably doesn't matter.

And Lola, you are only about 3 days from ttc! So excited for you!!

[Layla]

iluv I just quickly logged to see any news from you. Your numbers sound very healthy, also great news that spotting has stopped. All the best for you iluv.

Alexis I was going to ask where you were good to hear those signs seem all like early pg symptoms to me.

I woke up at 5.30 am this morning and was feeling a bit sick. I just had my breakfast and it did not go down so easily, so I am hoping to test on tomorrow at 10 days. Eventhough I always thought I should wait till 14 days. Keep ur fx for me

hopeful how beautiful are u and your family!

sorry will read the rest when I get back from school drop off

[Kris217]

Iluv, I hope your appt goes well and your hcg level looks good. Really try not to worry until you need to....like all said, LOTS of women have normal spotting and all is fine. Give your DH a hug from all of us for being a sweet pea and helping you out.

3pnb, I can't wait to see your nub shot!

WP, good for you for not letting the gov't rule your farm, I love it! And that is crazy that they think you lost a twin twice in a row! Perhaps that happens more often than we know. But yes, no Clomid for you! Seems like you don't need it anyway!

Kris, glad all is looking well for you, hun. I absolutely love your story.....so awesome that you and Sarah did this all yourselves without the hassle of ART. So excited for you!

Thanks everyone for the sweet wishes, I hope you all are right and this is a good month for not just myself. DH and I are excited, we had fun last night, and you all will get a kick out of this: he told me this morning he is going to eat a ton of healthy stuff this week because this is the week his "boys are performing on stage." LOL.....such a dork. (That's a work reference for him, for those who don't know I have the priviledge to have a giant man-child artist for a husband....he's a ballet dancer.)

Aww thanks so much Lola :)

[Kris217]

ILUV, I hope it's just normal spotting. Remember every pregnancy is differentiable even after so many! FX for you! XOXO

3P! I Am so excited to see you pics! How are the inlaws??? Any new stories?


Kris, Those numbers are great!! Im so excited for you! I still cant get over you guys made this happen on your own, you rock!

Begonia, How are you feeling!

Lola, are the girls having fun in SD? When is your attempt, I may have missed the page there have been so many pages I try to read but its so hard to keep up!

About my Ex, I looked super hot that night too I had on this black corset and Jeans and platform wedges. Bright red lips! When I walked in after some of my friends he had his back to me and was chatting with them. I walked over to him and didn't even recognize "Adam" from the back He turned and the look on his face was enough. He hugged me and he was shaking. Keith (DH) walked over and they chatted for a second. We all know each other as we all went to same HS. Dh is a little older...and hotter! ha! He asked what I have been doing and I just rapped it off, Happily for him, I said well, "Keith and i have been married for over 4 years, we have a beautiful little girl, We own a house in Campbell, we own a company with my 2 brothers (the despise him that were there that night LOL), Keith works in the union, I'm still a makeup artist/esthetician, I said life is really good. I can't complain. I said what are you Doing these days? He said "um just working here and you know living life" For the entire night he found any reason to talk to me...all my girl friends we like he still loves you its so obvious. Whatever..him loving me or not is not my concern. I have a fantastic life and a great husband...being able to give him a big fuck you made my life! I think any girl knows when any ex and especially your HS sweet heart Fucks you over hard core, later in life being able to have the situation I did was truly epic. My husband knew how good it made me feel. He was so proud of me that night. And before we left the house, he goes "do you need to wear that top, you boobs look too good. I don't want everyone staring at you!" I said Yes babe its your birthday, I have to look extra special! So later he tells me "thank god you wore this, cause you look so hot! Adam must be kicking himself for giving you up"

So naturally He was rewarded greatly.

The end.

Thanks Tink! It was nice to save all that money, the baby's bank account got much fatter due to that lol

[Kris217]

I've got to run but quick update, the Dr. said everything looked fine. The in office U/S showed 1 sac & my HCG levels from today came back and this was the email: "The HCG went from 340 about 6 days ago to 5259 today. This rise is consistent with a normal pregnancy for now."

The light spotting has subsided for now but I still feel off in my tummy. Hopefully all is well and I have another appt. on Tuesday (6 weeks and maybe a heartbeat can be seen). PHEW!!!! Thanks everyone and I'll keep praying all is well.

Yay awesome news!!!!!!!

[begonia]

Iluv I am SO HAPPY! That is awesome. FX you get to hear a nice strong heartbeat soon!

[begonia]

Begonia, you need to get a ticker so I can keep tabs on how far along you are!


LOL! I will work on it! I am 8w and umm... 2 days now. It goes crazy fast I think. I'll be curious to see if I get a dating scan tomorrow what the EDD is off of that. This is the 1st pg when I've actually known my ovulation date, so I will be surprised if it varies much from 3/5.

[Layla]

Kris your hcg levels sound great as well. With hcg levels it is how they grow that is most important rather than what they actually are. I agree with begonia how brave are you to get pg the way you did. I am scared to even contemplate what you did. You are one tough woman. GL to you. Just curious did you tell your dr how you got pg and what did they say?

Tink you are so funny, your stories are hillarious. I am also doing the caveman style diet and have put on a bit of weight but not too much I hope. I stopped weighing myslef as it is just too scary and go by how clothes fit me.

I am also feeling a bit of heartburn. You knwo how you guys were talking about feeling different for your girl and boy pregnancies. I did get heartburn with both my girls, but I did not feel sick much with DD1. I did at the very beginning but then I was ok. With dd2 I was soooo sick until week 21 at least. I could not eat anything without hurling it was awful. I thought she might be a boy because of that but she obviously is not. The only time I felt not much heartburn and not sick at all was with my 2 m/c. I just knew something was wrong. So if I am pg now I hope to start felling sick and a lot of heartburn very soon, otherwise I will not stop worrying until week 12 at least.

[iluvmyman]

Yes, absolutely PTL! Quick question for the ladies w/ experience on BBTing and I will read through the other posts a bit later today.

Are you guys continuing or took your BBT? I had the recent (scare for me) of light bleeding and feeling off in the tummy area (still do) and the other part that is bugging me, is that my temps have been dropping daily on FF and today it went below the coverline which is not helping put my mind at ease. Should I just stop taking my temps at this point, is it not accurate or could it be showing I'm in danger of m/c still based on temps?

[LolaInLove]

6dpo today...very tired, headache, stuffy nose, dry mouth, very hungry, still loads of cm.

Oh and I just ate a banana....with pickles? What is up with that?! Lol

OH SNAP!

[LolaInLove]

hi ladies , im going to try in august so can i be in one more time ??
iluv im really sorry you are facing bleeding problem , Do you know about Aabroo ?? she was our group member in TTC in start of this year , she also had bleeding in his early pregnancy and was on bed rest for almost 3 months, but she is now perfectly fine and is told BOY :)
big congratss for all girls who got BFP
and good luck for ladies in TTC journey :)

Hey Light! Glad to see you again! I did see that Aabroo is doing well with her baby boy, so glad for her!!! Good luck to you....we've got several in the 2ww and I am giving it a go this weekend (again). xxoo

[lightofmylife]

ladies is it OK to fast 3,4 days until O then dtd ???

[LolaInLove]

I've got to run but quick update, the Dr. said everything looked fine. The in office U/S showed 1 sac & my HCG levels from today came back and this was the email: "The HCG went from 340 about 6 days ago to 5259 today. This rise is consistent with a normal pregnancy for now."

The light spotting has subsided for now but I still feel off in my tummy. Hopefully all is well and I have another appt. on Tuesday (6 weeks and maybe a heartbeat can be seen). PHEW!!!! Thanks everyone and I'll keep praying all is well.

HOORAY! So relieved, as I know you are! I'm excited to hear how Tuesday goes!

[LolaInLove]

LOL! I will work on it! I am 8w and umm... 2 days now. It goes crazy fast I think. I'll be curious to see if I get a dating scan tomorrow what the EDD is off of that. This is the 1st pg when I've actually known my ovulation date, so I will be surprised if it varies much from 3/5.

I get so warm and fuzzy on the inside when I think about March babies. My DD2 was born on March 22 (that's Cheeky's EDD, I believe) and I just LOVED having a baby in March. Spring is such a beautiful time for birth, with everything coming to life and blooming and Easter on the horizon, I just love it.

[LolaInLove]

Yes, absolutely PTL! Quick question for the ladies w/ experience on BBTing and I will read through the other posts a bit later today.

Are you guys continuing or took your BBT? I had the recent (scare for me) of light bleeding and feeling off in the tummy area (still do) and the other part that is bugging me, is that my temps have been dropping daily on FF and today it went below the coverline which is not helping put my mind at ease. Should I just stop taking my temps at this point, is it not accurate or could it be showing I'm in danger of m/c still based on temps?

Hun, I would drop temping. It will just make you stress like now. Sometimes they get wacky for no reason....maybe you were cold last night or who knows. But don't worry, your hcg levels tell you that everything is growing, so no need to worry about an erratic temp.

How do you mean your tummy doesn't feel right?

[LolaInLove]

ladies is it OK to fast 3,4 days until O then dtd ???

Personally, I would not do that at all. I guess it depends on how strong you want your sway to be, but my BIGGEST thing right now is following the high-everything and TW hypothesis. I don't want my body to think there is famine at all! Is it for religious reasons?

[LolaInLove]

Hopeful, thanks for the encouragement! I would definitely trust your digis, and not worry about the lines looking light.

Daisy, so funny your mom is on the IBC board! You have probably watched many of my dancers there. My Artistic Director won the first IBC ever. Small world! Do your girls do ballet? I used to live in New Orleans, by the way, so I was about MS quite a bit (mostly the beach), but I love Jackson!

Layla, YES, test tomorrow! FX these are good pg symtoms! Both you and Alexis need to start some peein' on a stick!

As for me....my opk just went super positive. Hooray for Clomid! I am curious now as to whether we should dtd tonight as planned or wait till tomorrow morning? We have the day off tomorrow AND the kids are in Cali with their father (and they are having fun, Tink, thanks for asking!), so it would be perfect timing. What would you all do? Basically, we dtd on CD10, and today is CD12 and we *were* planning on doing it every other day till day 16 or 18 or whenever I am sure I o'ed. Now, come to think of it, I will O tomorrow. Look at my chart (I did temp this month for the hell of it.)! Just for kicks, what would you all do? (See, this is a perfect example of how you get to your attempt and then get cold feet about your "plan"....thank goodness for this village of knowledge and comraderie, no???)

[Tink18]

Good news ILUV. Very Happy for you!!! hugs!

[gizmo77]

ladies is it OK to fast 3,4 days until O then dtd ???

i asked this question too a while ago since ramadan is coming up. i dont think it would be a good idea to fast either esply if you are trying to increase minerals and overall intake. sounds very sinful i know, but im taking a break this yr myself. God forgive me.

[lightofmylife]

Personally, I would not do that at all. I guess it depends on how strong you want your sway to be, but my BIGGEST thing right now is following the high-everything and TW hypothesis. I don't want my body to think there is famine at all! Is it for religious reasons?
yes Lola :( im gonna ovulate on 1st or 2nd august and our religious fasting month is gonna start on 1st august ..... im kinda religious person so it wud b difficult for me to not fast :(

[lightofmylife]

i asked this question too a while ago since ramadan is coming up. i dont think it would be a good idea to fast either esply if you are trying to increase minerals and overall intake. sounds very sinful i know, but im taking a break this yr myself. God forgive me.

you are right but in my case its just 2 or 3 days :( , so should i not fasting for these days ??

[gizmo77]

maybe just make sure to eat as much as you can after you break your fast. wake up earlier in the morning and eat more than you normally would to try to keep your BS high. you are better than me :-) tho i do feel extremely guilty. ive missed the last 2-3 yrs due to pregnancy/breastfeeding. :-(

[babydes56]

Hopeful, thanks for the encouragement! I would definitely trust your digis, and not worry about the lines looking light.

Daisy, so funny your mom is on the IBC board! You have probably watched many of my dancers there. My Artistic Director won the first IBC ever. Small world! Do your girls do ballet? I used to live in New Orleans, by the way, so I was about MS quite a bit (mostly the beach), but I love Jackson!

Layla, YES, test tomorrow! FX these are good pg symtoms! Both you and Alexis need to start some peein' on a stick!

As for me....my opk just went super positive. Hooray for Clomid! I am curious now as to whether we should dtd tonight as planned or wait till tomorrow morning? We have the day off tomorrow AND the kids are in Cali with their father (and they are having fun, Tink, thanks for asking!), so it would be perfect timing. What would you all do? Basically, we dtd on CD10, and today is CD12 and we *were* planning on doing it every other day till day 16 or 18 or whenever I am sure I o'ed. Now, come to think of it, I will O tomorrow. Look at my chart (I did temp this month for the hell of it.)! Just for kicks, what would you all do? (See, this is a perfect example of how you get to your attempt and then get cold feet about your "plan"....thank goodness for this village of knowledge and comraderie, no???)

Just popped in as i'm away from home. Wow exciting about clomid, i dont know what to suggest for dtd. Tomorrow morning might be better but then again what if you ovulate early hrs of morning before dtd. When do you think you'll ovulate. Maybe go for it late late tonight then that way you'll catch the egg.

[babydes56]

Iluv, glad everything's ok with you! I wouldnt temp because i can imagine that temps will be all over the place in pregnancy. Also it's stressing you out & that's not a good thing so i'd say stop

[gizmo77]

you are right but in my case its just 2 or 3 days :( , so should i not fasting for these days ??

honestly , the swaying person in me says "NO WAY (all that work and to risk it for 2-3 days of fasting, when you can make it up later, and God will forgive me)"

the religious person in me says: "of course! only God can determine the sex of your child. if you fast, and pray, He'll guarantee you what you want. religion is more impt. besides who's to say this swaying thing will work, 100%?"

curious tho, why would you only fast for 2-3 days?

[begonia]

I get so warm and fuzzy on the inside when I think about March babies. My DD2 was born on March 22 (that's Cheeky's EDD, I believe) and I just LOVED having a baby in March. Spring is such a beautiful time for birth, with everything coming to life and blooming and Easter on the horizon, I just love it.

Oh Lola this post made me smile so big, thanks for that! I am having an anxiety day (honestly, quite rare for me so all the more unsettling as I'm usually not at all anxious) and this post was just calming and soothing for me :kiss:

[begonia]

honestly , the swaying person in me says "NO WAY (all that work and to risk it for 2-3 days of fasting, when you can make it up later, and God will forgive me)"

the religious person in me says: "of course! only God can determine the sex of your child. if you fast, and pray, He'll guarantee you what you want. religion is more impt. besides who's to say this swaying thing will work, 100%?"


I'm right there with you on this advice ... I totally see both sides, the swaying and the religious. It's a tough call and I wish you all the best discerning the right answer for yourself Light!

[LolaInLove]

yes Lola :( im gonna ovulate on 1st or 2nd august and our religious fasting month is gonna start on 1st august ..... im kinda religious person so it wud b difficult for me to not fast :(

I hear ya, there is another boy swayer who is Muslim and asked me the same thing. I know all about Ramadan, although am not Muslim myself. I think you either gotta give that month a miss, which means give the next one a miss also, because you will need a month to get back on the diet....or, like Gizmo said, you can forgo it, which may not seem like something you want to do. I personally think, if you are ok with a break, that it can get your mind centered very well, as Ramadan is supposed to be a month of observing peace, humility, patience, spirituality...you know. But, don't you have to continue to fast if in 2ww? I know you get a "pass" if you are pg or nursing......just saying, with your O right at the beginning....you definitely don't want to fast then. I don't know.....I think it depends on how much you want to observe and also sway in Aug, ya know?

[babydes56]

Lola i just looked at your charts & it looks like you'll definitely ovulate tomorrow so i'd dtd again tonight if i was you

[LolaInLove]

Oh Lola this post made me smile so big, thanks for that! I am having an anxiety day (honestly, quite rare for me so all the more unsettling as I'm usually not at all anxious) and this post was just calming and soothing for me :kiss:

Well good, hun! I am sorry you are having a nervous day. Take a deep breath and try to relax! Or just go shopping. (:

[LolaInLove]

Lola i just looked at your charts & it looks like you'll definitely ovulate tomorrow so i'd dtd again tonight if i was you

Thanks, L.....DH and I are contemplating doing it tonight and again tomorrow night and just not worrying about timing but more important to catch the egg and get pg. I just spend 30 minutes scouring FF "pg with boy" charts, and I will say that about 75% of them are dtd every day, another 20% every other day, and only 5% with abstinence for 3 days. Makes me again believe timing doesn't matter, as long as DH isn't shooting turtles or blanks, LOL!

[begonia]

Layla and Alexis I am so ready for the POAS fest to begin for you gals!!! FX!

Lola, SUPER news about the +OPK! Hmmm ... I like the advice of maybe staying up late tonight to DTD early am? You can snack (protein and carbs, LOL!), watch a romantic movie together ... and sleep in tomorrow w/o worrying about hitting o+12 or getting up early to BD! Either way your timing is great, you'll have a nice abstinence! I'm just so happy you're back in this :bluecheer:

AFM I had my 1st appointment this am and it went perfectly (no twins, PHEW!); had a dating scan and my O date lines up perfectly with the dating on the scan, how crazy is that? Anyhow got to see the little nugget heartbeat and all looks good in there. Have my 12 week scan scheduled for 8/25.

The appt left me a little rattled though ... I think the reality of it all just hit me. And I remembered last time I was on the u/s table and learned I was having DD2, and that was a REALLY hard time for me, so I think it brought some of those feelings back. I am definitely NOT going to find out this time around and part of me is thinking I don't even want to nubsess, because if it is another girl I really will be MUCH better off waiting til birth... I'm not sure I would do well if all my nub guesses say girl, because even though it's just a guess, some of those nubs are pretty clear I think.

So we shall see ... for now I just keep staring at the u/s picture ... I can't believe we are REALLY having another baby :nails:

Though I am looking forward to using this super cute smilie ...
:3kids:

[lightofmylife]

curious tho, why would you only fast for 2-3 days?

ohh no actually i was asking as i m going to O on 2nd or 3rd day of Ramadan so should i miss first 2 , 3 fasts ??

[begonia]

Thanks, L.....DH and I are contemplating doing it tonight and again tomorrow night and just not worrying about timing but more important to catch the egg and get pg. I just spend 30 minutes scouring FF "pg with boy" charts, and I will say that about 75% of them are dtd every day, another 20% every other day, and only 5% with abstinence for 3 days. Makes me again believe timing doesn't matter, as long as DH isn't shooting turtles or blanks, LOL!

I actually like the plan of tonight and again tomorrow night, that probably does give you the best chance of getting that egg! But then again I am with you on the whole timing thing so no surprise I would think that plan sounded great, LOL!

[lightofmylife]

I hear ya, there is another boy swayer who is Muslim and asked me the same thing. I know all about Ramadan, although am not Muslim myself. I think you either gotta give that month a miss, which means give the next one a miss also, because you will need a month to get back on the diet....or, like Gizmo said, you can forgo it, which may not seem like something you want to do. I personally think, if you are ok with a break, that it can get your mind centered very well, as Ramadan is supposed to be a month of observing peace, humility, patience, spirituality...you know. But, don't you have to continue to fast if in 2ww? I know you get a "pass" if you are pg or nursing......just saying, with your O right at the beginning....you definitely don't want to fast then. I don't know.....I think it depends on how much you want to observe and also sway in Aug, ya know?
thanks Lola , you are right , i will ve to continue diet in 2WW...... and offcourse BSF :( , but then i ve to take break for almost 3 months , as i cant sway in august , need two months for swaying , OH GOSH , long waittt coz im gonna visit my parents and wud stay there for 4 months , off course then DH will not available there for dtd :(

[lightofmylife]

you guys are doing BSF , EW or both ??

[LolaInLove]

thanks Lola , you are right , i will ve to continue diet in 2WW...... and offcourse BSF :( , but then i ve to take break for almost 3 months , as i cant sway in august , need two months for swaying , OH GOSH , long waittt coz im gonna visit my parents and wud stay there for 4 months , off course then DH will not available there for dtd :(

Oy, Light, that is a tricky one. I would say that if you really NEED to try in August, then just do it. Forgo the fasting for the reason that you MUST nourish your body to ttc and sustain a bean. Observe Ramadan in every other way possible, and I do believe that God will indeed understand. I think He's that type of guy. :wink:

[babydes56]

Layla and Alexis I am so ready for the POAS fest to begin for you gals!!! FX!

Lola, SUPER news about the +OPK! Hmmm ... I like the advice of maybe staying up late tonight to DTD early am? You can snack (protein and carbs, LOL!), watch a romantic movie together ... and sleep in tomorrow w/o worrying about hitting o+12 or getting up early to BD! Either way your timing is great, you'll have a nice abstinence! I'm just so happy you're back in this :bluecheer:

AFM I had my 1st appointment this am and it went perfectly (no twins, PHEW!); had a dating scan and my O date lines up perfectly with the dating on the scan, how crazy is that? Anyhow got to see the little nugget heartbeat and all looks good in there. Have my 12 week scan scheduled for 8/25.

The appt left me a little rattled though ... I think the reality of it all just hit me. And I remembered last time I was on the u/s table and learned I was having DD2, and that was a REALLY hard time for me, so I think it brought some of those feelings back. I am definitely NOT going to find out this time around and part of me is thinking I don't even want to nubsess, because if it is another girl I really will be MUCH better off waiting til birth... I'm not sure I would do well if all my nub guesses say girl, because even though it's just a guess, some of those nubs are pretty clear I think.

So we shall see ... for now I just keep staring at the u/s picture ... I can't believe we are REALLY having another baby :nails:

Though I am looking forward to using this super cute smilie ...
:3kids:

Good to hear u/s went well & you got to see the little heartbeat! I'm so with you about finding out but DH wants to find out. When i posted my 7wk scan on IG & was told girl that really upset so i've decided not to post my 12wk because i just want to enjoy my pregnancy

[LolaInLove]

I actually like the plan of tonight and again tomorrow night, that probably does give you the best chance of getting that egg! But then again I am with you on the whole timing thing so no surprise I would think that plan sounded great, LOL!

Yea, I am kinda torn now. Dangit. Maybe it would be better for DH for us to just do it early in the morning, like 8am? I already told him to go buy a big red bull, ha. He's got to go choreograph and dance at 10am anyway.

You guys will get a kick out of this too: he is creating his own multimedia dance piece, something that won't be done till April, but he's composing the music and using stop-animation video in the background, and there will be dancers also, of course.....but he just told me what it's about, and it is the story of ttc, of creation with the theme of a tree and seeds. He said our journey is the ispiration for it. The show will debut at a huge film festival here in April, so maybe I will have a baby in my arms by that time. LOL But isn't that sweet? I will have to post it for everyone on YouTube then.

[LolaInLove]

Oh, and Begonia, FABULOUS news about the good scan! ITKWYM about having flashbacks on the u/s table. Lots of them now! I think I am with you on not finding out....I am starting to like that idea for me in the future. I think it's the best way for my personality to deal with another girl. Plus, I would love to keep everyone guessing and avoid as many stupid comments as possible. ALSO a big bonus is that I will be much more apt to get that baby out when I am in labor to see what's between the legs, so I will be better at laboring. I'll do the super "effective" stuff instead of wallow around like last time!

[gizmo77]

Oy, Light, that is a tricky one. I would say that if you really NEED to try in August, then just do it. Forgo the fasting for the reason that you MUST nourish your body to ttc and sustain a bean. Observe Ramadan in every other way possible, and I do believe that God will indeed understand. I think He's that type of guy. :wink:



:agree:

[gizmo77]

thanks Lola , you are right , i will ve to continue diet in 2WW...... and offcourse BSF :( , but then i ve to take break for almost 3 months , as i cant sway in august , need two months for swaying , OH GOSH , long waittt coz im gonna visit my parents and wud stay there for 4 months , off course then DH will not available there for dtd :(



my dh says the same that lola said, since we are TTC, i have to prepare my body to make sure the health of the baby is well. my 1st pg i didnt even know i was pg and i fasted the whole month. she turned out find thank God but its not good esply the 1st trimester. i personally think even if youa re planning to TTC you shoudl still consider nourishing the baby even before its actually there. but everyone thinks diff, Light. i could never tell you not to fast, you know? this is just how *i* justify it, and i plan to make it up, etc etc. in fact i was going to TTC in sept, but pushed to oct bc of ramamda, but im still not planning to fast God forgive me, bc of all the knowledge ive gained with regards to blood sugars. iw ouldnt be able to do it while fasting esply esply witha fast in AUGUST where the days are pretty long. hope your answer is easy!

[gizmo77]

you guys are doing BSF , EW or both ??

im not TTC until oct, but i planned on doing both both debating about EW. i mean its just ANOTHER thing to think about and DO before dtd. i have enough of my own, but id still want it for better pH and to get pg at one shot! i cant be on this diet forever!!!

[LolaInLove]

I am doing preseed with a big bsf about an hour before. I was thinking ew, but now I just think it's a hassle, and as Begonia reminded me, i didn't have much luck with them last year.

[lightofmylife]

hmmm.... OK , thanks ladies , i will discuss all aspects with DH tonight , although he is not in to swaying but dont stops me .i do believe it was less cal intake which gave me 2 girls , so u r right i should avoid it, oct sounds sooo good , many boys i know conceived in oct.....but definitely cant do in oct :(
if i wud try now im thinking to do BSF only , i tried to put EW but a big failure :(

[3Pink1Blue]

Just popping in quick to say I had another appt and u/s today. Things look great, I have a fully formed fetus with a strorng heartbeat. She did say that my placenta was high on the left. I've decided I'm not going to care about that, I will not get myself worked up over a theory. Anyway I have another appt next week(13wks) and then again 3 weeks after that (16wks). Hopefully by then I'll be more relaxed and confident.

[3Pink1Blue]

Oh and I did get pics but no nub shots so nothing to obsess over :)

[LolaInLove]

YAY 3pnb! SO glad to hear all is well! And I agree, disregard the placenta theory.....no need to get all worked up about it.

[Zivic-Bubac]

the Dr. said everything looked fine. The in office U/S showed 1 sac & my HCG levels from today came back and this was the email: "The HCG went from 340 about 6 days ago to 5259 today. This rise is consistent with a normal pregnancy for now." That's great news iluv! :)
I'm praying with you for H&H 9 months with healthy :xy: as a result!

[Zivic-Bubac]

Yaaayyy for excellent u/s, I'm so happy for you! :bluecheer:
Oh and I did get pics but no nub shots so nothing to obsess over :) Oh $h*t, I was hoping for some! :p Insist on nub shots on your next u/s appointment :p

[Zivic-Bubac]

Thanks, L.....DH and I are contemplating doing it tonight and again tomorrow night and just not worrying about timing but more important to catch the egg and get pg. I just spend 30 minutes scouring FF "pg with boy" charts, and I will say that about 75% of them are dtd every day, another 20% every other day, and only 5% with abstinence for 3 days. Timing plan looks excellent! :agree: I would BD tonight and maybe tomorrow during the day, just to make sure you are not missing the egg?
That is very interesting with boy FF charts and BDing every day...hmmm... too bad my DH can't perform every day :rofl: ( or should I put crying smilie instead lol! Maybe that is showing that boy's dads are mean machines lol! full of testosterone and more likely to create a boy? :think:

[Zivic-Bubac]

You guys will get a kick out of this too: he is creating his own multimedia dance piece, something that won't be done till April, but he's composing the music and using stop-animation video in the background, and there will be dancers also, of course.....but he just told me what it's about, and it is the story of ttc, of creation with the theme of a tree and seeds. He said our journey is the ispiration for it. The show will debut at a huge film festival here in April, so maybe I will have a baby in my arms by that time. LOL But isn't that sweet? I will have to post it for everyone on YouTube then. Lola, this is so cool!!!!!! I can't wait to see it on YouTube!!!!!

My DD1 is a little dancer, she is attending *sort of* modern dance classes but I'm leaning toward classical ballet, Idk what to do... Should she continue her classes she LOVES ( but it is more for fun then real dance9 or should I sign her in proper ballet school?

She is very energetic, not subtle at all, would classic ballet be a mistake? Dang, why you live across the ocean, i would love to hear your judgement about her possible tallent (or lack of it lol!) As I understood it, you too are in ballet 'bussiness'?

[LolaInLove]

Lola, this is so cool!!!!!! I can't wait to see it on YouTube!!!!!

My DD1 is a little dancer, she is attending *sort of* modern dance classes but I'm leaning toward classical ballet, Idk what to do... Should she continue her classes she LOVES ( but it is more for fun then real dance9 or should I sign her in proper ballet school?

She is very energetic, not subtle at all, would classic ballet be a mistake? Dang, why you live across the ocean, i would love to hear your judgement about her possible tallent (or lack of it lol!) As I understood it, you too are in ballet 'bussiness'?

Yes, I run the ballet company on the biz side. There is an Artistic Director who does all of the ballet stuff, although I do have a lot of input into productions and casting. I've got a staff of 8 and a company of 36 dancers! We tour a good bit too, just around the US though. I would say this about ballet for both little girls AND boys: classical ballet classes are excellent for several reasons aside from the obvious of it being a fun group activity, meeting new friends, and being good exercise. Children learn an acute awareness of the body, and learn to take pride in doing things "precisely" if that makes sense. They learn about music and it helps the brain learns beats and rythym, which in turn creates connections that help with math and science....I am serious! It is a very goal-oriented art form. The other wonderful thing is that it teaches them a tremendous amount of discipline, even at a young age. Classical ballet comes from the "old world" where it was royalty who took classes, and therefore it has a certain demeanor to it, even to this day....where things are done "properly." So, it's like an etiquette class as well, where they learn to be on time, be respectful to others, listen with great care to the teacher, learn to appreciate the music and their bodies for what beauty they can make. Obviously, I can't say enough about it. My oldest daughter is freakishly good at it (to the point where she may need to go to New York someday SOON....they ship off at 12 years old if they are the cream of the crop! I don't know if I can handle that, though....), but both of them absolutely love it and I can see how mature it has made them in so many ways to have ballet a part of their lives since they were 2.

[begonia]

Lola that is super cool about DH's project!

ZB are you going to attempt soon?!?! Have you figured out what you're going to do for timing this go?

Jen I'm so glad you had a great appointment! And I'm with you, no sense fretting about placenta. I think if it was really valid they would be using it all the time, KWIM? But maybe next week you'll get a good nub shot so ZB will get off your back, LOL!

[LolaInLove]

Timing plan looks excellent! :agree: I would BD tonight and maybe tomorrow during the day, just to make sure you are not missing the egg?
That is very interesting with boy FF charts and BDing every day...hmmm... too bad my DH can't perform every day :rofl: ( or should I put crying smilie instead lol! Maybe that is showing that boy's dads are mean machines lol! full of testosterone and more likely to create a boy? :think:

Hmmm, that is an interesting connection there, Z! Well, I get home from work, and what do I see....something I don't see very often, not in many months- EWCM. So it is on! I decided we will dtd tonight and then tomorrow night and just KFX!

You are looking pretty close too, Z! Hope you are having a fabulous time!!!!!

[begonia]

They learn about music and it helps the brain learns beats and rythym, which in turn creates connections that help with math and science....I am serious! It is a very goal-oriented art form. The other wonderful thing is that it teaches them a tremendous amount of discipline, even at a young age.

This is totally true ... I read a study re: the math/science thing not too far back. I should see if I can find it.

DD1 won't do ballet as she's 100% committed to never wearing a skirt/dress, LOL. But I'm hoping to get DD2 in a tutu! She for sure could use some discipline :-)

[begonia]

WHOOOO HOOOO for EWCM! Glad Clomid didn't dry you out!

[Layla]

BSN at 10dpo :(

My pg test says only 53% accurate at 10 days, so maybe I should not give up hope and try again at 12 but I am really not feeling pg today. I think maybe I ate something bad the day before yesterday so I felt a bit sick. If not pg I really stuffed up the diet this month so I will have to wait till Oct to try again :sigh: oh well it might be better then less stress.

[Tink18]

I love that lola!

not to brag...but I'm gonna!!! DD is in gymnastics! She can already do the splits, a backbend and a somersault and a cartwheel. She is currently working on a front handspring and she basically has it. Her gymnastics place thinks she is some kind of baby prodigy. Of course I smile and nod and I'm gracious but inside I'm like "fuck yeah baby go" My 2 year old is boss!

Hope everyone is having a fantastic day! Kisses!

[Layla]

Iluv don't temp anymore it is not helping you. Even hcg levels are not helpful after 5 weeks. Just keep having u/s as needed and try and distract yourself with other things.

Begonia and 3pink so nice to hear your u/s went well and I agree with your strategy of not finding out. My DH refuses he said: "that might give you the motivation to push it out quicker (both my births took aaagggeeesss)." Begonia your preganancy hormones is what is making you feel up and down, but you will feel great again tomorrow.

Lola apparently male sperm is the best in the morning. Female fertility on the other hand is supposed to be best in the evening. So why not try both! I think we were stuffing around with timing too much this month so next attempt I will be throwing those opks away and just having fun.

Lightofmylife the Oxford study that atomic has in the studies section is very clear a boy conception is most likely IF the mother eats a lot of high nutrient food around the time of ovulation. I am really sorry you find yourself in such an awful position. I am not very religious and not a muslim, so I feel wrong to give you advice about what to do. So maybe talk it through with your DH and either postpone or not do Ramadan. Your glucose levels will also be too low during the day if you are observing it regardless of how much you eat at night.

[lightofmylife]

hmmm yeah just talked to my DH and he is agree with not trying for next 6 months :o , so hopefully in Jan 2012 ,,, actually lil worried about weight , gained a lott , obviously would get more in next 6 months , im not a tall girl so it feels a lott :D , i really wanna b get out of this fat business :p

[Layla]

hmmm yeah just talked to my DH and he is agree with not trying for next 6 months :o , so hopefully in Jan 2012 ,,, actually lil worried about weight , gained a lott , obviously would get more in next 6 months , im not a tall girl so it feels a lott :D , i really wanna b get out of this fat business :p

Maybe you should do what ttc5 is doing take a 3 month break loose some weight and then 3 months is plenty to be on the diet and ttc again then.

[Layla]

Lola how nice about your husband you must be so proud of him. Looking forward to that video.

My dd1 also does dancing, we are just doing it for fun tap, jazz and ballet. dd2 is sooo funny she joins in and tries to dance with them we always get in trouble of the teacher as she gets in the kids way but I cant keep her outside she wants to join in.

Anywho got to go now will report at 12 dpo

[TTC5]

BSN at 10dpo :(

My pg test says only 53% accurate at 10 days, so maybe I should not give up hope and try again at 12 but I am really not feeling pg today. I think maybe I ate something bad the day before yesterday so I felt a bit sick. If not pg I really stuffed up the diet this month so I will have to wait till Oct to try again :sigh: oh well it might be better then less stress.

10dpo is still super early!

[TTC5]

Just popping in quick to say I had another appt and u/s today. Things look great, I have a fully formed fetus with a strorng heartbeat. She did say that my placenta was high on the left. I've decided I'm not going to care about that, I will not get myself worked up over a theory. Anyway I have another appt next week(13wks) and then again 3 weeks after that (16wks). Hopefully by then I'll be more relaxed and confident.

Glad all is going well!!

[daisyfay311]

Wow, y'all have been hopping today! Yay for everybody having good doctor's appointments. Layla, that's still way early, you are sooo not out, fx.

Af was due today and she is a no show. Tests are still bfn and I almost feel like I'm ovulating--cm is up, sex drive is up....I'm wondering if maybe I was so stressed the week of O that I actually stressed myself out of O'ing and now it's delayed. Of course, I haven't been doing my supplements and bsd and all that because I thought I was in the 2ww...so now I don't really know what to do. Hopefully af will just show on up in the next couple of days and I can get this show on the road.

[Kris217]

Kris your hcg levels sound great as well. With hcg levels it is how they grow that is most important rather than what they actually are. I agree with begonia how brave are you to get pg the way you did. I am scared to even contemplate what you did. You are one tough woman. GL to you. Just curious did you tell your dr how you got pg and what did they say?

Tink you are so funny, your stories are hillarious. I am also doing the caveman style diet and have put on a bit of weight but not too much I hope. I stopped weighing myslef as it is just too scary and go by how clothes fit me.

I am also feeling a bit of heartburn. You knwo how you guys were talking about feeling different for your girl and boy pregnancies. I did get heartburn with both my girls, but I did not feel sick much with DD1. I did at the very beginning but then I was ok. With dd2 I was soooo sick until week 21 at least. I could not eat anything without hurling it was awful. I thought she might be a boy because of that but she obviously is not. The only time I felt not much heartburn and not sick at all was with my 2 m/c. I just knew something was wrong. So if I am pg now I hope to start felling sick and a lot of heartburn very soon, otherwise I will not stop worrying until week 12 at least.

It wasn't scary at all, i just knew it would be a way to increase my chances by a lot and it was well worth it!
Yep i did tell my Dr, well Obstetrician and she said it was a great idea and we basically just did IUI. I said no not quite, it was ICI as you can't put unwashed sperm into the uterus. She was very happy for us, gave me a big kiss on each cheek too. She's the sweetest Dr i've ever known so i'm glad she'll be the one helping me through this pregnancy :)

[Kris217]

I am doing preseed with a big bsf about an hour before. I was thinking ew, but now I just think it's a hassle, and as Begonia reminded me, i didn't have much luck with them last year.

Be careful with the big bsf, too much and you'll be burning!! I made that mistake lol

[KSN]

I know, CBBC did well! I'm going to see who all I can remember ... you add to it if you think of another... but here's who I'm remembering at my 1st try:

WLM: Boy
Wantasonbun: Girl
Maz: Boy (at least going by the last u/s...I keep checking hoping she'll post too, like frogs!)
Frogs: Boy
Dolly: Boy
HOE: Girl
Aqua: Boy
Nutter: Boy
OTW: Girl
HAS321: Boy

So that is 10 total, with 3 girls and 7 boys... a pretty great turn-out I think! Am I missing anyone?
OurLastChance?

[KSN]

I am on CD10.. Can someone tell me what to do the week of O?

Last 2 cycles I missed O by 1,2 days :(

[Zivic-Bubac]

I had my 1st appointment this am and it went perfectly (no twins, PHEW!); had a dating scan and my O date lines up perfectly with the dating on the scan, how crazy is that? Anyhow got to see the little nugget heartbeat and all looks good in there. Have my 12 week scan scheduled for 8/25.

The appt left me a little rattled though ... I think the reality of it all just hit me. And I remembered last time I was on the u/s table and learned I was having DD2, and that was a REALLY hard time for me, so I think it brought some of those feelings back. I am definitely NOT going to find out this time around and part of me is thinking I don't even want to nubsess, because if it is another girl I really will be MUCH better off waiting til birth... I'm not sure I would do well if all my nub guesses say girl, because even though it's just a guess, some of those nubs are pretty clear I think.

So we shall see ... for now I just keep staring at the u/s picture ... I can't believe we are REALLY having another baby :nails:

Though I am looking forward to using this super cute smilie ...
:3kids: Begonia, I'm so glad u/s went excellent! :agree: It's so emotional when you hear your baby's heart beat isn't it? Hope it's :xy: you're cookin' in there!!!! FX!!!! :luck:

I totally understand cold feet about the reality of having another baby LOL! Sometimes I wonder what's wrong with me trying so hard to get another one and complicate my life when I already have 2 perfect babies if that makes sense.

You've got me :rofl: with looking forward to use 'mommie with 3 kids' smilie.....I thought I was the only one planning things like that :p Do I need to say I've chosen my pregnancy ticker like 3 months ago and can't wait to use it :p

About my timing: I didn't take OPKs with me bcos I'm trying not to obsess as usual :rofl: we are having a great time and BD every other day since CD5 and it is all DH's initiative which is amazing. We BDd yesterday and today :cool: this haven't happened for quite a while and i'm having more sex on the holiday then on the all 11 months put together. Sad, but true :wink:

I hope we will continue with this tempo until Aug 2, that would be CD14 and I never O after CD14. On Aug 4th we are leaving Greece bo-hoo and we will spend few days in Macedonia at DH's aunt.

I agree with Lola, make pregnancy ticker so we can know how far along are you, I keep forgetting you'll see what it's like when you're my age LOL!

[Zivic-Bubac]

I am on CD10.. Can someone tell me what to do the week of O?

Last 2 cycles I missed O by 1,2 days :( Try BDing every other day starting from today :agree:
1 or 2 pages before, Lola wrote that looking on boy FF charts she noticed 75% were conceived with BDing EVERY day through O, so if your DH is OK with that, I would go with that plan :luck:

[Zivic-Bubac]

Lola - thanks for answer about the ballet, I needed opinion from the expert :agree:

So you think too I should sign her up for classical ballet? Those classes she is attending now are more for fun, they are warming up by chasing each other through the room - go figure!

I didn't know about brain connections between dancing and math/science but it totally makes sense! Your girls are truly blessed they were introduced to the dancing practically as babies. And yes, when I think about it , it is goal oriented activity. I remember one sentence ( but I forgot the author of course :sigh:) it goes something like:

There aren't many shortcuts to happiness, but dancing is surely one of them :)

[lightofmylife]

Try BDing every other day starting from today :agree:
1 or 2 pages before, Lola wrote that looking on boy FF charts she noticed 75% were conceived with BDing EVERY day through O, so if your DH is OK with that, I would go with that plan :luck:
REALLY ?? what about sperm count ?? my DD1 is result of frequent bding from cd9 to O ?? but again for DD2 it was only once on O ,,, i was thinking of O-2 and on O ??

[cemas]

Wow looks like all the action here happens in the night.....

Lola..hope u got an close to O attempt in already,either yesterday night or today. what a perfect O time when DD's are away and u guys have no worry abt their bedtime and timimg BD...u know.More natural and relaxing helps. FX its ur month.

Begonia , great to hear abt ur appt and that u had as u/s too....i sometimes think maybe we should also not find out whenevr it happens....but i don't have the will power to hold. last time DH wanted a girl and me a boy and i was depressed after the u/s......since there are only gorls on my side of the family.....today i feel bad abt it......i so thank god for DD....i love her so much.
Good to hear abt u too 3pnb...so start relaxing:)

and urs was the best llluv......so relieved to hear all is good.

GL to those POAS....

celebrating DD's mid year birthday tomorrow as she wanted a summer beach birth day party...lol

[WashingtonPromise]

Wow you guys have been busy, I finally got my reading caught up.

Congrats to all the awesome u/s. You guys really do need a ticker....we all have to keep up with you guys. And neither of you plan on finding out at you 20wk appt?

We had a great time on our day trip and are back and in full swing. I rode several rides at the fair and hope if there is a little bean in there....that he hung on tight. I had a temp dip....maybe implanting? I normally only temp from about cd10-cd18, just enough time to get my O, temping can be a pain. But since I am still BF twice a day, I thought my O might be delayed. Anyway and I am 7dpo today. Our Anniversary is on Saturday (9dpo), I wanted to test, but I really think it will be too early. It would be a nice surprise though. If anything our Anniversary plans will keep my mind of POAS.

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh and after starting weighs, I could barely walk around the fair without looking like a cowboy.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Hi Friends,

Between work, caring for my dd, and life, I can't keep up- but wanting to check in and say hello to new members and congrats on the new bfps! So exciting.

Me:
8/9 DPO- had a late O, but I think I O'd later in the evening, as opposed to morning. FF can't decide- right now I have it at the earlier date because I like my timing better, but since I was on vacay my post-o temps are wayyyy off.

I am feeling like bfp is never going to come. I am glad it didn't come earlier because of DH's job surprise which involves moving in the late winter, but now I want to avoid some dates... This is cycle 3 for me (we skipped one cycle because of Dh's fever).

Does anyone feel like swaying makes it harder to get pg? LOLA mentioned this I think. I have all of the right things- early O, ewcm at the right time (never had with dd), but sperm getting to egg and making a baby isn't happening!

[LolaInLove]

Spicy, I do think that something in our bodies (well, SOME of us) gets a little off when swaying and then it can take a bit longer to get pg....but ya know, with swaying blue, you are doing everything to increase fertility, so that is kinda contradictory, I suppose. All I can say is that my doctor told me that she tells all patients to not freak out until 6 months. Sometimes your body is just not ready, for one reason or another. But don't give up if you really do want another baby, it will happen. There are many of us on here who can testify to that! Babydes tried for a long time, and I have many other friends who did also. When are you going to test?

Layla, I'm sorry you got a bfn, but I agree that 10dpo can be early.....you know MANY do not see one until 14dpo or more even. Every lady and every pregnancy is different! FX for you, of course!

WP, love the walking like cowboy comment, LOL! Glad you had a fun time at the Fair. How did your kids like it? Mine love the big state one here in September, but are always scared of the "carnies" (aka fair workers). You know those people live life a little rough.

KSN, you should start using opks immediately to track your ovulation. Let us know if you need advice about that or are not sure how to do it. Lots of us are opk masters by now! Is this your first cycle? Zivic's advice is indeed good....you could just start bding every other day until you are sure you ovulated.

I'll tell you guys, I think the timing thing is just too stressful. And seriously, from FF charts to "surveys" of boy moms here with their timing, I REALLY think it doesn't matter if you dtd every day or once. I really don't. I think it only matters when your DH has low sperm count or so. But, you know, our DHs (at least most of them) are taking supps and I am sure mine for one has super sperm by now! I've been stuffing him with vitamins for a year now, and a really strict schedule for the last 3 months. I truly believe it is more your body that makes the difference. I mean, think of all the ladies who have boys who weren't swaying and just took opks and bd'ed away. MILLIONS of them.

So, we ended up dtd last night. I practically tore DH apart, so I kinda took that as a sign that my body wanted some, er..., sperm in it. And now my temp is back up, although not above my coverline. I think I either O'ed in the middle of the night or will today. I just have no idea with this Clomid in me. I'd hate to assume it is the same as usual and I will O the day after my +opk. Anyway, we are going to dtd again tonight with all the bells and whistles again. We did preseed and I did cave and do a bsf an hour before, just for old time IG sake (LOL).

About the ballet, I think ANY dance class is just great....when they are ages 2-6 or so, it is all just learning and fun anyway. If your daughter shows promise or really loves it, go for the advanced classes, that are more strict classical ballet. I just love seeing kids in any sort of dance class. But I am a big believer in not pushing your kids into activities just because you like it......I tell my girls that they can do whatever they'd like, and if they ever want to quit ballet, it's fine. I don't want to make them quitters, but I think that if they truly don't want to do it, there is a good reason. But, for now, they are all about it, especially with DH being one of our main dancers and me being the admin director. They just love being backstage at our theater and being a part of the "life" with us. Everyone knows them, so they are very comfortable with roaming around a huge performing arts theater....and I think it's a unique thing for them to experience as kids. And Tink, love that your DD is a gymnastics pro! That is awesome! You know she is going to be very althletic and physically coordinated, which is a great thing.

And I ramble away....obviously I could talk about ballet all day! Hope everyone is doing well!!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- no new in-law stories, luckily we only see them about once a month. Love the ex encounter! Everyone deserves a moment like that!

Daisy- thanks for the names compliment! We actually thought we were picking nice classic names but now they're everywhere lol

Iluv- so glad everything's ok! Fx for a heartbeat at 6wks!

B- glad your appt went well but sorry it left you rattled.

Zb- not sure I want one, I'm kinda on b's side on this. Not really sure I want to know.

Layla- I agree don't give up at 10dpo!

Lola- so glad you're in the 2ww! Fx very tightly crossed for you!

Well I woke up this morning quite a bit poochier then yesterday, me thinks the belly explosion is on it's way lol I'm actually feeling pretty good today, like I'll actually end up with a baby. Hoping this holds out but being 6 days from my m/c I'm sure the anxiety will spike again. Big hugs to you all and all the positivity and support you provide:hugs:

[TTC5]

Hi ladies! I'm popping in to say hello :) Am joining a gym today, feeling very down in the dumps with my huge weight gain :(

[Zivic-Bubac]

REALLY ?? what about sperm count ?? my DD1 is result of frequent bding from cd9 to O ?? but again for DD2 it was only once on O ,,, i was thinking of O-2 and on O ??Light huni, where you've been, I missed you! :) I see you are holding til January 2012? I decided for me it's now or never lol!

I think I'm in the situation I'll regret it either way (having another baby or not and all 'what if's') - I'll regret it if I don't try and if I DO try, so I decided it's better to regret something I've done then something I didn't. Hmmm can you tell I'm a mess? :sigh:

About sperm count: Atomic wrote somewhere that probably waste number of boys were conceived with some sort of cut-off which leads us to the same conclusion - time is not THAT important.

So glad to have you here again! :)

[begonia]

I think I'm in the situation I'll regret it either way (having another baby or not and all 'what if's') - I'll regret it if I don't try and if I DO try, so I decided it's better to regret something I've done then something I didn't. Hmmm can you tell I'm a mess? :sigh:

LOL, ZB, this was me! And I was laying with DD2 today, getting her down for a nap and watching that peaceful 2 year old face, and thinking that even though 75% of her waking hours have me running around ragged ... I'm SO glad we're having one more. You won't regret it. Love that DH has got some good lovin' for you this trip! I know that hasn't always been the case so I'm happy the vacay is doing him some good as well!

KSN I did forget Onelastchance. No idea what she is having/had, you know?

Tink how fun to have a little prodigy :running: We need a tumbling smiley! Maybe there is one. I'm too lazy to look. Took my girls to the pool this morning before it got to be over 100 and now we're all tuckered out.

Sometimes I write things like "tuckered out" and wonder if I've been hanging around too many old people.

Lola! WHOO HOO! So you're almost back into the good ol' 2WW! You know, I ended up doing a BSF too. The pH thing isn't my game really but I was like, WTH, can't hurt! Hope tonight is fun too! ITA about not pushing your kids. I REALLY want DD1 to play soccer but she has no interest, so she isn't playing. And I really want DD2 to dance ... we're going to test out a class this fall. I *think* she will love it but really you just never know with kids!

Cemas what a fun 1/2 birthday celebration! Hope you have a lovely time!

WP, LOL about the cowboy comment! I put a cowboy ticker (we'll see if it shows up in this post!) just for kicks. Glad you had a fun fair day! FX you get a nice anniversary BFP but at 9 dpo, it's early ... either way hope it is a lovely day. Do you have big plans? How many years?

Hang in there Layla, 10 DPO isn't over yet! FX!

Hi 5!!!! Miss you lady!!! Working out will make you feel better FOR SURE. Get on that. Endorphins are for real. I've only gotten in one workout this week and I'm quite sure it has contributed to my being more bummy than usual... that and hormones, but really, when I don't get in some good activity I'm much grumpier!

Spicy FX this month is it for you!