Due in Mar/April/May 2015

[Junie]

Essence I am so sorry about what you have been dealing with! I think you should try to tell your DH that you all have experienced a lot and you would really appreciate it if he would push back going for a vasectomy. You won't pressure him to TTC you just want everyone to have some time to think about things. Then just hope that in a few weeks or months time that he feels OK with TTC. I think a vasectomy is so final and you are still so young. Big big hugs to you,and I am really thinking of you and hoping things change.

[PrimalMamma]

Essence I've been trying to come up with some sort of wise & inspirational post. I've got nothing. It all just sucks. My husband said no more kids too. He was absolutely adament. I sold/gave away most of the baby things because looking at them broke my heart & then 2 months later he said let's do it. Sometimes I think men exist just to piss us off!!

[Babybeaublue]

I think he is afraid of you going through the same thing again. Men cannot deal with these things and I think some of them shut off all feelings to cope. Also they of course are sad and upset, but just don't get it. Maybe if you explain that you don't want your last pregnancy to be one that ended like this one did, that you want your last pregnancy to be one that is happy and gives you your last baby? Xxx

[Mamato3?]

essnce I am happy to hear you are recovering well!
As far as the situation with your DH, I really think you must not TTC against his will, because if you actually get a BFP it will possibly not be something celebrated by your DH and I fear that it will bring negative feelings into your wedding and this hypothetical pregnancy.
My advice is to explain to your DH that motherhood is a very sensitive issue for any woman, that a woman must not be deprived of it cause it is our nature and purpose, that you are willing to wait some time for him to sort out his feelings of a 3rd child, that him having a vasectomy against your will is something that will make you miserable and possibly in the future create problems in your marriage and that you don't want this to happen and other similar stuff that you know best (these are what I would say to my DH).
It is very important when you'll talk to him to be in a loving manner, cause men never really grow up and need to feel they are loved by us like their mothers do, and ask of him to write on a piece of paper what his fears are, so that you can see them on paper and take them away with reasonable arguments.
I really hope from the bottom of my heart that you will be able to reason with your DH and be happy!

[hotdogz&boyz]

I'm sorry it's still a struggle essence. Hopefully time will work on your side and DH will have time to heal and accept you would like another child. It must be hard to not feel on the same page :(

And thanks for the wisdom ladies. I am going to ask my doc this week if she has any specific exercises and/or tricks for managing hip pain. Sometimes, I think I am just being a sissy this time around. Lol.

[kitkat18]

Hi ladies, I need some advice.... My 19 week scan is coming up in three weeks and I have already started to stress. WISH WISH I didn't care about gender but I do. My DH does not know I swayed and actively wants another boy, he is pretty insensitive to my GD.
Okay dilemma .... I told DH I wanted to find out as I had some girl guesses on my 13 week scan (we were going to be team green).
Do I find out the gender at the appointment and risk me bursting into tears and him gloating.... Or do I ask the sonographer to write it down and find out the gender privately afterwards?? Risk then being I haven't seen 'the goods'
Any input welcome!!
Xx
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[kitkat18]

P.s no elective gender scans here in N.Z so that option is out otherwise I would do that without him and then Pretend I didn't know....sorry for my ramble!!
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[PrimalMamma]

That's such a hard question Kitkat because I can only speak from my perspective within my own family dynamic & where I think I would be emotionally. So with that in mind, if we had decided to be Team Green but I wanted to find out in secret I would ask the sonographer to write it down. Then on my next day off work (I work 3 days so I'm home with DS2 for 2 days a week) I would drop DS1 at school, come home, settle DS2 in front of the TV (I know, mother of the year right?!) & open my envelope. Would give me a long day to cry if I needed to or deal with the initial excitement before DH came home & then I could pretend I still didn't know (well attempt to, I'm a hopeless actress). That's how I would do it I think, but only you know if that would work in your situation. Good luck!
xx

[kitkat18]

Thanks Primal! Sorry I should have been clearer I am a rambler!!
We are both finding out at the 19 week scan there is no way he would let me do it without him I just wasn't sure if we should find out gender in the actual scan, see the potty shot etc, or ask the sonographer to write it down and we then find out together at home or out at lunch.
Thoughts? Xx

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[Mamato3?]

Kitkat If I was in your shoes I would probably request the answer in an envelope and open it when I would be home.
I would also ask the tech to give me a picture of the "goodies" so that I could stare at them as much as I want at home.
I don't think you are going to burst into tears though...I think you are going to dance your way out of the exam room!!

[BlessedMomma]

Thats a tough one kit kat. In my experience im so glad i was watching as he did the scan. If i only had 2 go by a picture and his word i would be so doubtful. Im still nervous my girl could turn into a boy for my 20 wk gender scan next week. But then i remember i saw with my own eyes multiple times the 3 lines, the tech pointed Out ��multiple times the labia. And i feel more sure and secure about that. And honestly i cant imagine u hear anything but girl.

[Mommy3b]

I also think that you should ask the tech to write the gender down and open it in the privacy of your own home... I did that exact thing with my third baby (which turned out to be my third son!) I literally was shaking on the table and could not handle the emotion there. I desperately wanted a girl but when I opend the paper with my DH I was not super surprised or upset....I think it helped that we were in our surroundings. But if you need a good cry I totally know how you feel! Good luck whatever you decide!

[Mommy3b]

Although Blessedmama has a good point....seeing it with your own eyes may shed any doubt! Ugh this is a tough one, you have me thinking about my scan next week!

[PrimalMamma]

Oh ok Kitkat you're right I misunderstood I thought you were finding out in secret. In that case I would watch the scan & ask for reference points to prove whichever gender the sonographer says. By your other scans I'm sure you'll hear pink anyway!! That being said my husband's GD is as strong as mine & he's very conscious that he has his boys so when we hear boy (I'm certain we will) he will be very supportive to me.

[essnce629]

Thanks everyone for your kind words. Looks like I didn't O after all even though I had two days of +opks and then -opk. I never got a temp rise and instead it's plummeted to 96.7 and 96.8 the last two days! I actually thought my thermometer was broken.

I'm going to ask for a full thyroid panel next week as I'm afraid my miscarriage may have been caused by hypothyroidism. My mom is hypothyroid and so was my great grandma, and ever since starting LE diet I've been getting more and more tired (can sleep 12 hours and still wake up exhausted), have been napping daily, have had joint pain, am always freezing, and now a miscarriage and super low basal body temp which are all signs of having low thyroid function. I guess this can raise your miscarriage rate up to almost 70% in the first trimester if it's not treated. :(

On top of all that we're having massive urinary issues with 11 year old DS1. All of a sudden he's waking up 4-8 times in the early part of the night and peeing massive quantities, then in the second part of the night he's wetting the bed. He's also peeing every hour or so during the day. He had a finger stick blood test at the doctor's on Thursday and it was a little high and the doctor had him come back the next morning for fasting blood tests, another more thorough urine test, and then a kidney and bladder ultrasound. We won't know all the test results till Monday or Tuesday, but we're really really really hoping it's not Type 1 diabetes, which appears to be the most common cause of excessive daytime and night time urine output.

And of course, this afternoon 5 year old DS2 had to start throwing up all over the house and I remembered that just 2 days ago his teacher sent out an email saying a stomach bug was going through the class. He ended up falling asleep at 5:30 tonight without eating dinner and has already woken up two more times vomiting!

What a weekend this is becoming!!!!! I just can't catch a break!

[kitkat18]

Thanks everyone for your thoughts!! I really appreciate everyone's input I liked the idea Mama3? Had of the potty shot and the gender in the envelope but I think I might see how I feel on the day as well it might just be too obvious at the scan!
Essence honey sorry its pouring for you honey , last thing you need is a sick child and a stress over test results hoping DS1 does NOT have diabetes.
Glad you getting tested for your thyroid, big hugs keep us posted X

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[PrimalMamma]

Good heavens Essnce. What a rough trot you're having. I do know a bit about Type 1 & when you were describing your DS' symptoms my next message was going to be to get him tested... Then I read on to see you were on it. I do hope it's just coincidence. And stomach bugs, man they are the worst. It took me 12 months to get over the fear of THREE vomiting children before TTC. We actually considered stopping at two solely based on my loath of vomit!! Hang in there. There has to be sunshine coming soon for you xx

[laVieEnRose]

Essence, give yourself time to 'heal' on all levels. What a tough time you are going through. I hope all settles down for you very soon. Glad to hear you have your mum to help out with your children. We are all here for you xxxx

Kitkat, it is a tough one... Have the envelope idea but you might be feeling like finding out 'live' on the day...
I'm still confused on what I think I saw and sometimes wished I knew for sure ... I have surf the web like crazy for scan pictures in the hope to see the same round circles I saw and find an answer! My DH thinks I'm totally crazy lol

On a total change of subject, and apologies for TMI Alert!
This am I was shaving down below and as I can't see much standing up, I had to crouch down and it felt like my all insides were going to fall out! I could actually feel and see a bulge on the right side!!! Anyone else had this? Is this normal ? Thanks!

[BlessedMomma]

Oh man essence, first off im so sorry that all this is happening. I hope if u do have thyroid issues that the doctors are able to take good care of u. I pray ur ds1 does not have diabetes and that we he has has a simple solution. And i hope ds2 recovers quickly.

Kitkat just do what u feel most comfortable with at that moment. I just know ull hear girl.

Lavie they say theres more bloodflow down there and things get more swollen. I know i definitely feel Tmi bigger down there thanx to blood flow/ pressure from low lying baby. Is that what ur experiencing?

[PrimalMamma]

LaVie I'm sure it's something normal & just another "delightful" symptom of pregnancy however maybe just mention it to your midwife or care provider? If you weren't pregnant I would have suggested you might have a uterine prolapse which would be harmless (but annoying & uncomfortable!) but obviously in pregnancy a prolapse of something could be dangerous. I'm sure it's probably nothing & I'm just ignorant about that particular symptom but maybe just ask??

[QueenB3blue]

Geez, essnce I really hope you get a break sometime soon:(

LaVie, hope it is nothing serious. Everything does get super swollen "down there" hopefully that's all it is!

Kitkat, if I were you I would probably just find out at the ultra sound. With ds3 I didn't get a chance to close my eyes if I wanted:) the first swipe the tech made on my tummy I saw "the goods". I told the tech it was a boy!
I guess maybe if you didn't watch most of the ultra sound to assure you wouldn't see anything. And if you don't watch but your DH does chances are you will know by his reaction:)
I wouldn't be able to wait. I would want to see and have the tech explain it all and answer any questions. And if it was a girl I would need to be reassured over and OVER.
But that is just me. I'm a rebel;)

Primal, I can't remember were I noticed it, but your post about your ds1's taekwondo performance was so heartfelt! It made me tear up.

Hope everyone is doing well:)

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks QueenB it was in a gender disappointment thread. It was a very special night.

[hotdogz&boyz]

I loved it too Primal :) Wonderful to read.

In other news...I'm halfway officially! Scan on Thurs. I can't wait to see greenie again!

[PrimalMamma]

Yay! That's great hotdogz how exciting :)

[kitkat18]

I love it too primal!
Yah!!! for being halfway hotdogz this pregnancy is steaming ahead! X
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[kitkat18]

Loved it too! I meant
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[PrimalMamma]

Thanks Kitkat. It's a comforting realization given I'm certain this baby is a boy. Although there are a few strong sways that have resulted in opposites lately so who knows maybe it COULD happen for me despite my lax sway?? I'm just relieved that I am starting to be more at peace with either outcome. What will be will be.

[HopingForHairbows]

Yay for halfway hotdogz!! I love looking at the baby on ultrasound. I had a scan yesterday and I was tearing up watching the baby bounce around and suck on its fingers.

With the holiday season upon us I have a feeling that we are going to blink and are March babies are going to be making their appearances!!!

Primal- I understand exactly how you feel. I was so very certain this baby is a boy, but I got all girl guesses on my 12 week sono! I am trying not to get my hopes up because I don't want to feel sad if my 16 week scan shows something different.

[PrimalMamma]

I have booked my 12 week sono late (12+6 which nuthinbutpink said is perfect timing) to try to get a good chance at nub guesses. I'm sure if we see it that it will be sticking up. My husband reckons HE is certain that this baby is a girl but he said that last time too til we got out positive boy outcome at 18 weeks. Overall in all areas he does tend to be the optimist & I am the pessimist so our thinking is pretty typical for us. DS1 is absolutely desperate for a sister. DS2 changes his mind daily but is telling us constantly that if its a girl he wants to name her Anna or Elsa - he is OBSESSED with Frozen! (Those names are absolutely NOT going to be used BTW!)

[kitkat18]

Yah for girlie guesses hairbows!! You can't help getting your hopes up a bit eh!! I too was positive this baby was a boy and felt good about it until my scan when I got a girly vibe, hoping everyone was right my scan is in 2 weeks time!
Primal I hope you see a lovely long flat girly nub my scan was the exact same time and I think its quite accurate for nub guessing.
I think it's normal for us to all convince ourselves we are having the opposite of what we desire just so we can handle it if it turns out to be so. I am finding zero pressure this time round which is lovely everyone just assumes its a boy which makes it all so much easier ! Anyone else have a scan coming up?
Xx
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[odd]

Kitkat. Such a perfect state to be in...I feel like I made a huge mistake by anoouncing not only pregnancy but the gender as well

Everyone that finds out tells me..'oh u must be relieved' or 'now ur family us complete' or thank god its not another boy and it's pissing me off to no end

I ended up fibbing on a couple of occasions saying I kinda wish this was another boy coz now I'll never see that'bonding' that 2 brothers or 2/sisters share

[Mommy3b]

Hi everyone!
Oh how exciting scan are! So hard to wait in between! I have an elective gender scan this Thursday. It was bumped up... I am super excited but so very nervous. Like you hopingforhairbows I got 100% girl guesses and my husband is convinced it's a girl. My hopes are up but until I see it confirmed I go through waves of doubt. I have three little boys too!

[Mommy3b]

Odd I understand what you mean...many people make comments to me about how they "hope I get my girl." I know they don't mean any harm but I get offended. I went though this with my third son and I wouldn't have it any other way. I didn't tell anyone except my closest friend we are having an elective. I am thinking that whatever the sex I am going to keep it private for now.

[kitkat18]

Odd people are so darn thoughtless!! The boy mumma in me would be so mad by those comments as we are all so proud of our boys!!
Mommy 3b wow I am jealous you get to find out Thursday I still have 2 long weeks to wait! I am so sure you will hear girl honey but good luck I have already started stressing! I too have told everyone we are team green so there is no pressure afterwards I think its a good move, update us asap!!
Xx
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[laVieEnRose]

Thanks for your replies. I'm not too concerned as is prob just the pressure of the baby on my bits in certain position... Will mention it to my midwife next appointment.

GD is on my mind too. Keeps creeping up and I have days where I'm at peace and others where I feel sad, numb and some good days where I feel very hopeful still too...I had 50/50 boy/girl guesses for my 12 week scan, thought I saw boys bits at my 20week u/s but really just don't know... I'm sure I will be in love with who ever pops out in march ...
Good luck everyone with your u/s xx

[Mommy3b]

Kitkat I will update for sure. I need to get this scan because I am totally obsessing! Good call telling everyone your team green... Less pressure :)

[Mommy3b]

Good luck to you too... Yes I am sure your little one will steal your heart no matter the gender. :)

[PrimalMamma]

I ended up fibbing on a couple of occasions saying I kinda wish this was another boy coz now I'll never see that'bonding' that 2 brothers or 2/sisters share

This is actually one of the things that has put me at peace (for the moment) with having another boy. My husband is one of 4 brothers and they have such a strong bond. I am one of a pigeon pair with no other siblings and my brother & I rarely speak & when we do it's incredibly awkward. There are no bad feelings we just have nothing in common & have nothing to say to one another. It's very lonely and I wish I had a sister.

So another boy wouldn't be a bad thing in my mind.

[eleena2014]

Went for my first midwife appointment today.quickly got booked in for my scan tomorrow morning woo hoo! Anyway I don't know if it was just because it was the first appointment but I felt badly informed about quite a lot of things. Like I wasnt sure whether i want anothet home birth and I expected her to give me some advice but she didn't.also regarding the downs syndrome test.I wasn't sure about having it and I said to her I am quite a low risk anyway aren't I? And she said well it could happen to anyone.although I read on the internet its something like 1 in 900 chance for my age,so I'm pretty sure she should have told me that. And one other thing because i absolutely hate blood tests I told her I didn't want them all doing ,just the ones that mattered like blood type e.t.c. and she basically said I HAD to have them all. Am I right in thinking u can refuse certain ones? I certainly didn't feel like that was an option for me.

[kitkat18]

Eleena when I had my boys they didn't offer the blood tests and nt combined result, just nt and that was perfectly fine. For me taking the blood tests was no biggie and easier for peace of mind to have the 1 in 10,000 result, but everyone is different and if you hate blood tests don't do it, you will still get quite an accurate result from the nt measurements combined with your age.
Good luck! And exciting to see baby tomorrow X
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[PrimalMamma]

Eleena where are you located. I can't speak for other countries but in Australia you can refuse whatever you like, although they often act like you can't. In regards to the "it can happen to anyone" comment well yes it can, my 26 year old friend had a Downs Syndrome baby, but that being said her nuchal scan & bloods were totally normal & didn't pick it up whatsoever. I've also had several friends with "abnormal" nuchal scans & then an amnio revealed nothing was wrong at all. so i question the accuracy of it & if yiu don't want to do it I say don't. But yes you are low risk, in Australia the nuchal scan is elective for women under 35 or no previous history of Downs babies because the risk is so low. So mine will cost me $215 out of pocket with no rebate available. I'm only doing it to try to "nub hunt" LOL.

[eleena2014]

Is the nt the scan procedure to detect downs? If so she wouldn't let me have that without the blood test.AMD primal I'm from UK. I thought i could refuse but she was adamant I couldn't.anyway she couldn't get any blood from me so I've got to go to hospital next week and have some took x

[Mamato3?]

Eleena I live in Greece and if you don't want to do anything a doctor advises you, you are able to deny so long as you sign some special form that you state you do this on your own responsibility. I think this is also possible in the UK.
I also don't think PAPP-A (this is how we name the 12 week U/S and blood test combination) is reliable, though.
I personally paid on my own the cost of amniocentesis for both my DDs, eventhough I was young and did not have any family history whatsoever, because I worked for years at a private clinic and had seen a few cases of children with Down's being born by young moms.

[business.woman]

Mommy3b and Kitkat18 so excited for u , u'll get to know the gender soon! FX its the gender u want!

[eleena2014]

I have just read that u can be offered the nt without the blood test.I will be asking this when I go for the scan today. If it turns out this is true I will be making a complaint and changing midwifes.wasn't pleased at all yesterday how it went

[PrimalMamma]

Good call eleena. I would be very wary of any midwife that doesn't "allow" you choice at this early stage, especially if you are considering Homebirth. It makes it impossible to build a relationship of trust & it undermines your right to make an informed choice. A trustful & open relationship with your care provider is SO important, ESPECIALLY in a homebirth.

[eleena2014]

Bad news.they couldn't find a heartbeat. Just so shocked and still can't believe it x

[PrimalMamma]

Oh no!!!! Oh eleena I am so so sorry.

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

Oh NO :( The same happened to me. I am SO SORRY Eleena Prayers and hugs your way :hugs:

[business.woman]

Im so sorry eleena2014 :(

[business.woman]

Eleena2014
Did u take aspirin??

[Mamato3?]

Oh no I'm so sorry eleena. :gloomy:

[Mommy3b]

So sorry eleena. Prayers for you and your little one

[eleena2014]

Yes. I did take aspirin why?

[QueenB3blue]

Prayers for you eleena. I am so sorry:(

[HopingForHairbows]

Eleena I am so sorry. Send much love and prayers your way

[laVieEnRose]

Just read - eleena I'm so sorry ... Big hugs and love xx

[essnce629]

Oh no Eleena! How horrible! I'm so incredibly sorry. How many weeks are you? (((HUGS))) to you and your little one.

[odd]

Omg eleena...my heart goes out to u. So sorry :(

[eleena2014]

12.but they said it died at 8 weeks. I am just dreading the miscarriage. Think I'm going to go the natural way and wait x

[business.woman]

Ooh , cuz I had like this once before my DD , it died at 6 weeks
And when I got pregnant with my DD they gave me aspirin

So I thought aspirin will help
Im so sorry ..

[kitkat18]

Eleena I am so so sorry what a horrible thing to go through, big hugs honey X
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[bluebonnet22]

I'm so sorry eleena! My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

[Babybeaublue]

So so sorry eleena. It's heartbreaking. I'm still scared to look at the screen straight away at scans. Take care xx

[eleena2014]

Thanks everyone.after the miscarriage is over I will have to think about when or if I want to TTC again but at the moment my head is saying no.x

[eleena2014]

Sorry to have to ask this but does know/think if the miscarriage will be easier the earlier the baby died? This one was 8 weeks they said.

[PrimalMamma]

I would imagine the miscarriage would be "easier" than if the baby had died at 12 but I don't think you can ever call a miscarriage "easy". They are rough no matter your gestation. I'm so very sorry.

[eleena2014]

Just doesn't seem real to me yet because I haven't actually miscarried.I kinda clicked a few seconds before she told me as I noticed baby wasn't moving and she said u look to be 8 weeks not 12 and I was like,that can't be right I know exactly when I conceived

[hotdogz&boyz]

I am so, so sorry Eleena :( It's crushing to hear that news. To be honest, the miscarriage likely won't be easy. Your uterus has continued to grow over the past four weeks (since you didn't miscarry, your body was clearly still producing hormones to sustain the pregnancy). At 12 weeks, you'll probably experience some cramping and a good deal of bleeding. You'll have clots and potentially will have what feels like milder contractions. It's different for everyone, but missed miscarriages are more difficult because they generally last longer in gestation (since they are missed). I had a missed miscarriage at 9 weeks (when baby passed) and after three weeks my body wasn't doing anything to try to end the pregnancy, so I ended up going for a D&C. My doc said that my uterus was rather large and it would have been fairly uncomfortable to miscarry naturally, if my body had permitted it. In a little surprised they didn't mention a D&C to you, only because it's been 4 weeks. But hopefully you get to do it how you want. (Sorry if that seems crass, I just wanted to let you know my experience and send my condolences). I'm again, so, so sorry for your loss :(

[essnce629]

Eleena-- any miscarriage will be hard. Mine at almost 7 weeks lasted about 4 days with tons of back pain, early labor like contractions, and passing of clots. I spent several hours a day in the bath to help the pain (I'm a homebirther and both my boys were water births, so the water is where I felt most comfortable).

You can ask for Misoprostol (Cytotec) to jump start things if your body doesn't start bleeding on it's own. I had looked into this for my best friend who had a miscarriage at 12 weeks as well, and this is what I would have chosen over a D&C (which does have possible risks to future fertility). Maybe discuss all three choices with your doctor/midwife. I would also google "natural miscarriage experiences" and read other women's stories so you know what to expect. This helped me a bunch. So sorry you have to go through this. (((HUGS)))

[Rosie85]

I am so sorry Eleena. Very very sad news. I had a missed miscarriage but mine never even attempted to pass on its own so I had a d&c. My natural miscarriage i had was at 5.5 weeks and it just felt like a bad period but i was pretty early still. Like the other ladies said expect major cramping...bleeding...clots and probably contractions. Big hugs to you...take care of yourself.

[eleena2014]

They offered me d&c but I have never been under anesthetic and dont really want to that's why I prefer to wait.

[eleena2014]

But I also hate the not knowing and waiting for it to happen.x

[bluebonnet22]

Eleena - I second what essence mentioned about asking for the pill. That way you can avoid the OR (if that is your desire), but you can get things started rather than waiting. I'm so sorry you are going through this.

[QueenB3blue]

Well. Just got back from my ultra sound. Sac was empty. Can't believe it. I am so frustrated. Sac measured 6wk 4 days. Dr wants to wait another week to be sure. Then she said if nothing had developed I could have a d&c or she could insert the pills(can't remember what she called it). Everything is kind of a blurr right now. Kind of hoping for a miracle. But I saw nothing in the sac. And I know when I ovulated, so my dates are not off.

I am glad my Dr took the time to see me today. She said if I started to bleed on my own she still wanted to ultra sound me next week. She said to expect lots of clots and cramping/contractions. I am not looking forward to it:,(

I am so glad my dh and I decided not to tell anyone we were pg. especially my boys.

[kizzi46]

Eleena, so sorry. You in my thoughts and prayers

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

I am so sorry QueenB :( Hugs to you

[odd]

Omg...I'm soooo sorry to read ur update queenb. This is heartbreaking

[eleena2014]

sorry queenb.i can understand how u are feeling at the moment as i am waiting for my miscarriage to start too,im so scared.x

[kitkat18]

Oh queen bee honey I am so sorry lots of hugs your way X
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[eleena2014]

not to cause any offense to anyone at all but does anyone know is these miscarriages are anything to do with swaying? if the miscarriages are to do with poor egg or sperm quality surely thats got something to do with what we doing to our eggs and sperm when swaying?

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

I have wondered that same thing...

[QueenB3blue]

I am not going to lie, the same thing has crossed my mind. But I know I am just upset and want something to blame it on. There is something like 20% of all pregnancy end in miscarriage. I think it just seems like we swayers miscarriage a lot because there is a lot of us. You never know this many ladies in real life pg at the same time. Heck, No one knows IRL I am even pg(or loosing one) now.

Grrrr, I keep having this glimmer of hope that since my uterus is usually tilted that this baby was just hiding and next week the little bean will appear. Fat chance. I know.

[Rosie85]

Ladies i do believe there is a higher rate of miscarriage for pink sways. I thought i read it on the site somewhere. I don't know if my sways caused my losses but i do know i had zero fertility issues and period issues before swaying and now i have the worst periods ever and cant seem to carry a baby so either the change is coincidental or the sway was too hard on my body. Either way...no more swaying for me...just in case.

[PrimalMamma]

My own body reacted terribly to swaying. That's why I stopped swaying aggressively & looked after my own health. I must admit I have felt a great deal of confidence in the health of my pregnancy because of how well I was looking after myself. Even though I know my chances of a girl are pretty much zip.

[eleena2014]

Think mine will happen tonight or tomorrow as I have light bleeding now.just seems so unfair that this has to happen to us and probably just like any other woman,the thought never even crossed my mind that it could happen to me

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

I am sorry again eleena :( My mc took about two weeks from start to finish. It was a helpless, horrible feeling knowing what was going on with my body and little one. :( I wish you peace during this time and Hugs to you!

[odd]

In my country there's a lot of poverty.. And women who are clearly starved go on to have perfectly healthy babies...so could it be the sudden change in our 'environment'??? Because even on LE our diet is plenty healthy

[PrimalMamma]

Good point odd. I wonder how much of it is to do with us adjusting to lower nutrition, rather than it being "too low" per se.

[eleena2014]

Well its 4.09 am and I can't get back to sleep wondering what's going on with my body.I has very slight blood loss around 7 hours ago,and now nothing.

[Rosie85]

Yeah i think it is more the change in the state of our body...it is essentially a shock to the system. Impoverished women are used to low nutrition and their body makes due for a pregnancy if it sticks. In my case going from high calorie and high fat diet to low fat and low calories with intense exercise...that is a bug change.

[Rosie85]

Eleena i hope you can get some rest. It is terrifying to not know what is happening, i know.

[Mamato3?]

I don't know if it is the swaying, but when I had my mc (before the birth of my first DD) I was 7 weeks and nobody knows about it, besides my DH.
I think IRL a lot of women don't announce pregnancies before 8 weeks, so if a mc occurs noone really knows about it.
Here is a site full of women either TTC or pregnant that find out if they are pregnant even before AF is due.
A lot of pregnancies are miscarried at 4-5w and we don't even find out if we don't test, but consider them delayed AF.
After I had my mc I and my DH had a full blood test check, out of our pocket, becuase I wanted to see if there was a health factor that caused this mc. My OB at that time did not approve of the blood tests cause I was young, without health problems and so was my DH, so we did them at a private lab (and they were quite costy).
The tests resulted that I had a clot disorder and that could be blamed for my mc.
What I want to say is that there are many reasons for a mc, including just luck, if it was the diet everybody swaying a DD would have had miscarriages.

[Junie]

Just chiming in to say that whenever I have been on a TTC specific forum we have always had about 1 in 6 end in miscarriage :( If you aren't TTC and watching your cycle I think some early miscarriages just aren't noticed. I'm so sorry for all of you dealing with this right now. :(

[sweetdream]

I think it might up the mc rates, swaying.

But here I'm one of the few women I know whom has never had one. It happens a lot.
I was scared for one cause I hear it so much.

I want to wish you gals strength

[HopingForHairbows]

QueenB I am so sorry to hear. I will keep you in my thoughts.

I do remember reading once about the higher rate if Mc particularly in girl swayers, but I don't remember where now and I don't understand it fully.

[QueenB3blue]

I have a baby shower to go to today.

*sigh*

Last. Thing. I. Want. To. Do.

[kitkat18]

Don't go honey, say you have a tummy bug and you will pop over one on one and give her the shower gift at another time Xx
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[LittleBabyJones]

What is an Nt scan

[PrimalMamma]

I agree QueenB, don't go. Too emotional. I would never want someone coming to my baby shower if they were hurting & it was going to cause them pain.

[PrimalMamma]

LittleBaby NT stands for nuchal translucency, it is checking for abnormalities in the baby including Down's syndrome.

[QueenB3blue]

I decided to go to the shower. I knew if I stayed home I would just lay around and feel sorry for myself. I must be pretty good at turning off my emotions. Honestly I feel like I am just walking around in a haze. No one knew I was/am pregnant, I think so far it has made it easier. I hate attention and really don't want people feeling bad because of me. Someone even asked me today if I missed being pregnant. I can't believe I held it together.

No bleeding yet, just spotting here and there. Every once in a while I get some intense back pain that wraps around to my tummy. I just want it done and over with. This waiting around thing is awful.

I really feel bad even posting on this thread. Thanks for taking the time to read my post. Wishing the best for you all!

Eleena, hope your doing ok:( stay strong and try and concentrate on your beautiful boys.

[eleena2014]

Aww. Thanks u too.x I think I'm at the same stage as u.it's a bit heavier than spotting.mild backache but no major cramping yet.i won't go out the house at all at the moment I'm just scared it willhappen all of a sudden.x

[PrimalMamma]

Please try not to feel bad posting on the thread QueenB. We're all here to listen/read whatever it is you need to say. Especially because you're being private IRL & haven't got anyone to share it with (other than DH of course). Post whatever you need to. I'm really sorry this has happened. X

[QueenB3blue]

Thanks Primal:)

[LittleBabyJones]

I can't even imagine what QueenB or Eleena are going thru. My thoughts and prayers go out to you guys. I hope you find peace and comfort thru out this hard time for the two of you.

[BlessedMomma]

Hey ladies how is everyone doing?
I hope u all r well and getting over ms and hopefully just enjoying pregnancy. I had my anatomy scan today and it was confirmed i am indeed having a girl!!! Im so excited. Baby girl was healthy and perfect. I hope to hear from u other ladies soon. Btw still dealing with the gross sour taste in my mouth, but well worth it for little dd :)

[odd]

Hi Blessedmomma, good to hear from you - I had my anatomy scan as well since my last at 19 weeks didn't go so well - baby looks great and still all girl, just measuring 2 days behind. I still have placenta previa so have to be on pelvic rest and take it easy and baby's still breech which is not a big deal since Im still 'early'.

I feel the little one on daily basis though not all day long. She loves to kick me right on my bladder lol. I hardly felt my son so it's nice to actually feel this LO quite often.

I'm over the nausea and sickness thankfully and do feel fantastic. I'm able to eat everything now, which is NOT a good thing lol

[kitkat18]

Good news about scans ladies!! Nice to have that confirmation eh?? I had a scary thing happen to me last night I had blood in my urine, called healthline and my mid wife who both advised me to see an emergency doctor. Doesn't look like a bladder infection I didn't test positive and no other symptoms, but doc had me insert a tampon in case it was a miscarriage which of course freaked me out completely again no signs and no blood on tampon this morning so now I think they are going to look at my kidneys.
On top of this my eldest has pneumonia. When it rains it pours! Feeling very emotionally drained today thank goodness im home with my eldest XX
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[BlessedMomma]

Hey odd i hope ur placenta previa resolves itself and u dont have any complications from it. I think they say its common for it to move and fix itself. Fx for that and im glad ur baby girl is doing well. Measuring 2 days behind is normal.

How terrifying that must of been kitkat! I pray that whayever caused the bleeding is not serious! And im sorry ur ds is sick. Hopefully he recovers quickly. :(

[PrimalMamma]

Oh Kitkat how scary. I had a bleed at 18 weeks with DS2 & it was terrifying. BlessedMomma that is excellent news about your DD. congratulations! Odd I really do hope the placenta previa resolves itself. I would go mental on bed rest!!

[odd]

Thanks ladies..its partial so thankfully not as bad...my hubby us going mental though with me being on pelvic rest.

KitKat. That is solo scary. I'm so sorry that u have to go through this...whatever the cause is, I hope it resolves itself soon and I hope ur kiddo gets better too . do rest and take it easy

[kitkat18]

Sorry odd how inconsiderate of me not to read you are on partial bed rest, that must be hard at least DH is doing what he can to help you! :) hope the placenta Previa sorts itself out sounds like your doc/ob/mid wife is on to it and they will keep monitoring you xx
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[kitkat18]

Thanks guys! Keen to learn what the mystery is!! Baby is moving around so thank god everything is okay there. Calling my doc today for a consultation they might need to do an ultrasound of my kidneys xx
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[hotdogz&boyz]

Just wanted to say hi! I haven't been around as much as before. I read here and there.

I am so sorry for the losses that mamas are enduring. Losses are so difficult and my heart really goes out to you gals.

Congrats to the mamas finding out they are getting their DG.

We had our anatomy scan last week and there are a few concerns but we don't have answers and have 4 weeks to wait for our next scan. Nothing seems pressing or dangerous, but they couldn't get various pictures, baby's belly is measuring rather large, and I have placenta previa, although potentially just marginal. They think it might be a lobe instead of a major part, but we don't really know. It's not complete, that much we do know. What they did see (minus the belly) looks good. And the tech did a fabulous job not showing us any spoiling pictures. We never even had to look away. I feel baby a lot now, which makes sense because the placenta is not blocking as much as I thought (it's anterior, but really, really low). I will be in and out. I just want answers, not necessarily because it changes anything, but i can't help but be a little worried about some of the unknowns. I hope it's all just a false alarm. But I'll love whoever we get. He/she already is pretty cute!

[PrimalMamma]

I hotdogz :waving: I was wondering where you were. I hope the results turn out to be nothing. 4 weeks can take forever when you're waiting for news like that. I hope the PP resolves itself & baby's large belly turns out to be nothing. I'm really impressed you managed to stay Team Green, both from the tech's sonography skills & your own resolve! The curiosity would have got the better of me I am certain! Good news you're feeling baby a lot at least that means s/he is active in there, bright & alert regardless of whatever else is going on. FX for you that everything is fine. I understand about needing to know. It's just about being prepared isn't it. Of course it doesn't change how you feel about your baby, but not knowing what challenges (if any) lie ahead can be disconcerting. I get it. X

[QueenB3blue]

Went to the dr today for a follow up appointment to my suspected blighted ovum. There was a fetal pole now????? Measuring 6 weeks 3 days. Tech could not get a heartbeat, but I was told it could still be early for that.

Here's the thing. I used opk's and thought for sure I knew when I concieved! This would make me waaaaay off! Like a month! I am so confused.

I have to go back next Friday for another ultrasound. I have a little bit of hope. Has anyone had this happen before or heard of it???? I don't think this could be considered a blighted ovum since there is a fetal pole now?? I know something still could be wrong.

[essnce629]

Great news Queen! Seeing a fetal pole, but not detecting a heartbeat at 6w3d is completely normal. If all is good then they should for sure see a heartbeat by 7 weeks. Fingers crossed for you! Seeing a fetal pole during the 6th week is the most important thing.

I went in a 6w5d after having spotting and a little bit of red bleeding and "no normal fetal pole" was detected. My hcg was only 6000 at that point and I miscarried the next day. Have you had repeat betas to see if your numbers are still going up? Mine went from 6000 to just under 3000 in two days.

Hoping for good news for you!

[QueenB3blue]

They never took my blood. Which I guess I am ok with:-/ I really do like my midwife. She didn't make me feel like this was a lost cause, but she didn't give me false hope either. Last week she didn't jump to any conclusions and with having me come back in a week there is a fetal pole! Sadly I know a lot of dr's would had scheduled a d&c right there.

I have no idea how next week will go seeing how confused I am about my dates. But I am confident in my midwife and that gives me some comfort:)

[PrimalMamma]

Oh wow QueenB I'm crossing everything cross-able for you!!

[kitkat18]

Oh queen bee there is a ray of hope!!! Crossing everything for you!!
Hotdogz wonderful to see baby and super news there were no clues to keep the surprise alive!!
Hard to wait four weeks for the additional tests, sounds like nothing to worry about but we are mums of course we worry!! Xx
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[business.woman]

QueenB that's great news ! FX everything will be just fine

[HopingForHairbows]

What awesome news QueenB! I am so very happy to hear a positive update!!

[kitkat18]

Hey ladies, six days till I know pink or blue and I am a nubsessive mess!!! No wonder I have two boys hehe
I found another site for anyone as crazy as me babynub.com two expert nub guessers are on there jennaemma and lovemy4 they just created it as ingender kept crashing! Super easy to load pics and a friendly site!
My DH bless him has been handling my crazy I told him I was super nervous about Friday because I had such bad GD with DS2 and although I think I will be better its hard to know for sure. When I told him I had 35 girl guesses and 1 boy guess (yes its the 1 boy that's bothering me!!)
He was like we should find out that's a high percentage that guessed. As I was ready to go back to team green from that 1 boy guess. So he is being supportive.
Hope everyone is doing well and I will try and control my crazy over the next few days.......X
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[HopingForHairbows]

Wow KitKat I cant believe only 6 more days!! My scan is 2 weeks from today. I have been nubsessing right along with you. I just keep going back and staring at my sono pics and staring at other peoples, and I could not tear myself away from "confirmed" nub galleries. I thought the same act thing - No wonder I am a boy mom haha. I do think your nub is very girly and will be 100% shocked if you hear blue, but that one boy guess would totally get to me as well. My hubby will not even listen to me talk about nubs or look at the pics. He wants a little girl so very badly (much worse than me) and does not want to get his hopes up. When you have your scan, I will have 7 days left til mine, so I have no problem dealing with your crazy if you promise to deal with mine. haha!

[kitkat18]

Thanks hairbows!! I felt like such a crazy even posting it, but have no one else to download too! I hear you its so easy to feel confident for someone else with all girl guesses but when its yours I guess you are protecting your heart a bit!! I will totally support your crazy!! My DH wants another boy so the fact he is listening to me is good and if its not a girl at least I know he will be a little more supportive than he was last time!
Xxx
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[odd]

I don't know what u leaders are nervous about. I'm pretty confident u both will hear pink :))..good luck with ur scans and can't wait to hear an update

[odd]

Yayyy queenB for a ray of hope. I can't wait to see ur positive update soon.

[business.woman]

Kitkat Im crazy too , Im actually doing all old wives gender gussing from now ! And staring at everyones u/s
Im getting better at guessing actually lol and Im only 6 weeks !

[BlessedMomma]

QueenB i really hope u see a heartbeat at ur next scan. I have everything crossed for u!!

Kitkat yayyy for 6 more days! I have no doubt that ur going to hear girl. I can Not wait for that update :)

Hoping for hairbows i really hope u hear girl as well. I know its not an exact science but i do think a good nub shot from a good tech is pretty accurate. I had 100% girl guesses for my 12w6d nub shot and sure enough, its a girl!

Business woman u r my hero to want twins! I love twins but i can imagine what a fun challange that would be

[business.woman]

BlessedMomma
It is a challange ! Im just hoping and imagening having them but actually its impossiple without meds
If I have twins I would die out of joy lol ! My dream since forever

[PrimalMamma]

ERMERGHERD, NF scan tomorrow! 12wks 6 days. FX both baby & tech oblige and we get a good look at the nub. I'm sure it will be sticking straight up (possibly with a blue flag waving on top!!)

[kitkat18]

Good luck missy!!! I will be hoping for a long flat girly nub for you!! Will you ask the tech for a guess? Post your pics here straight away!
It will be so lovely to see baby!
Four days till my big gender reveal and I have been managing to control the nubsessing!
I have just had really bad back pain the last few days anyone else have this at around 18/19 wks?
Xx
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[hotdogz&boyz]

Still lurking around. Good luck to the mamas with gender scans soon!! And I am so excited for you Primal. I hope it doesn't have a blue flag on top ;) But I hope all looks well with baby and you get a good peek!

[odd]

Good luck primal. Will be waiting ur updates... So exciting

[PrimalMamma]

Crap! They dated me a week ahead. I pretty much had a scan for no good reason because I'm 13+6. I'll pick up photos later so I'll try to post them... From what I saw I think boy, but my husband thinks girl. That being said, no point guessing from a 13+6 scan. $215 down the toilet 🚽

[kitkat18]

Totally every point still nub guessing from 13 plus 6 scan as far as I am aware!! But im guessing doing nt measurements was hard at that gestation? Awwwhhh can't wait to see pics!! Post on babynub.com too there are two experts there lovemy4 and jenaemma from ingender and everyone is super friendly!! Xxxx
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[odd]

Primal... It's not. I had mine at 13+5 and got a pretty good nub shot

[PrimalMamma]

Thinking about it, the revised date simply cannot be correct. If I'm 14 wks tomorrow I would have had to O on day 14. I was using OPKs so I know I O'd on day 20 or 21. My husband is 6'4" & he & his 3 brothers were all over 10lb at birth so I reckon it's just a big baby. My midwife said the earlier scans are usually more accurate.

[stephk]

I can't keep up with life at the moment but want to wish you luck for your scans. Primal i am sure you can still get a nub shot at 13+6 not that I'm the authority on such matters!

Kitkat I will try to come back here in 3 days for your girlie announcement:)

[kitkat18]

Stephk I miss you!!! Does DH know yet?? I really really hope so, I am trying not to over think it all!! Xx
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[PrimalMamma]

Ok here is the very confusing shot. Very boyish skull, & I thought the sticking up thing was the nub, BUT, the sono said "No that's not the nub - THIS is the nub" & put the pointer on it. She knew we were nub hunting so she said "I'll leave the marker there for you for when you're looking later." So we have a short nub (male) on a horizontal angle (female) with a round skull (male). I still think boy.
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[PrimalMamma]

Now, here is something that makes me a little hopeful. A potty shot - yes yes I know not accurate at this stage BUT, I am measuring 14 weeks tomorrow. So photo one is my photo. Photo 2 is a potty shot of a confirmed girl at 14 weeks. They are nearly identical.
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[business.woman]

Its a girl ! Diffently

[QueenB3blue]

I think girl!! I think even though the nub you got is short, it is definitely the right angle:). I would be comparing 13 week nub shots. I doubt you see many boy ones like this;)

[QueenB3blue]

O. And with the potty shot showing lines I think it is a good sign! Even though it is early for that position.

[kitkat18]

I agree with Queen B congrats hunny!!! Although the two lines are short they are VERY flat! Looks like you will be shopping pink!! Definitely post on babynub.com (I sound like their sales rep) but they took the time to draw on my pics I asked and tell me how confident they were! Also I have seen them guess on potty shots at this gestation Xxxx
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[PrimalMamma]

So I posted my pics & info in the US Forums & got mostly pink guesses... Even Atomic guessed pink, based on her own pink ultrasound at the same gestation. So.... ????? I'm still focussing on blue til my morphology scan. I really don't want to be disappointed. (Hubby on the other hand has pulled out the pink blankie he was crocheting & started again!)

[kitkat18]

I love your husband Primal!! I hear you! My gender scan is Friday I have serious hope for pink but think I have prepared enough (well I hope for blue) ....
I agree atomic does not comment unless she is SURE!! Go on have a wee pink day dream
Xxxxx
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[odd]

Omg..I agree. How cute is that ur hubby will crochet a blankie. I hope And pray that ur family gets the much deserved girl

[hotdogz&boyz]

Primal, I believe you have a girl growing in there. At this stage, I'd expect the nub to be shorter, it's heading toward the body. And the potty shot, although early, shows nothing but lines. I'd anticipate SOME sort of scrotum to be forming if the baby was a boy. Heck, we confirmed our first son as a boy at 13+2 or so. It was pretty clear at that gestation with him. And I don't believe in the skull theory one iota. All my babies looked similar in that regard. I'm with your husband, pull out the pink blankies! Exciting for you :) :) :)

[mommymachine]

I think girl as well.

[essnce629]

Good luck Primal! Looking pretty girly!

[PrimalMamma]

It probably sounds silly but I'm just so worried the tech was mistaken & the nub is the sticking up bit. She said that was leg & cord but I keep looking at it thinking she was wrong.......

[kitkat18]

Its not silly, its just hard to believe or let yourself believe when you were so sure you would see a boy nub! Looks like a cord to me!! Try and enjoy your pink daydream even if you only let yourself do it for a day!! When will you have your little lady confirmed? Xx
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[PrimalMamma]

Hopefully the week before Xmas. I was just thinking too, what exactly am I worried about? If the tech WAS wrong what does that mean - that I'm having a super cute little boy! Who cares, really?! If that's the "worst" that can happen that's pretty great really!! If baby does turn out to be a girl I'm going to tell my parents we couldn't see & then wrap up something pink & frilly for them under the Xmas tree! 😄

[PrimalMamma]

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[kitkat18]

Could not agree more!! I will be reminding myself that on Friday honey thanks. Sooo love your idea for your parents they would be sooooo shocked and happy!! I too have daydreamt about how I will tell people but Im sure to always include a 'girl' and 'boy' version hehe!! Xxxx
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[PrimalMamma]

Ok here is a shot I couldn't upload before, Photo A is my baby & Photo B is a confirmed boy at the same gestation. Assuming the tech was right about what bit the nub is then it's a pretty big difference. I know my baby's back is flat & the other is curved but even so Photo B's nub is angled significantly more up & has a knobby bit at the end. My baby's does not. Oh dear I so did not want to nubsess!!! 😞 22091

[BlessedMomma]

Good luck primal! I think if the technician said where she drew the spot is a nub then thats very girlie! I would of guessed boy based on the little thing sticking up, but the tech told u that was the cord right? I would have high hopes based of that nub! Congrats :)

[stephk]

Primal I think you could be pink shopping soon yay :)

Kitkat I will be on the lookout for your news on Friday :)

No my DH doesn't know yet because I dont know lol. The anomaly scan is tomorrow and he has told me to find out. I said I won't call him after but I'll tell him when he gets home so I can see his face. I'm so glad I know it's a girl though cos his family have been unbearable with the "we need a girl" comments!

[PrimalMamma]

StephK My mother-in-law has been a nightmare, but for the opposite reason. She has 4 sons no daughters & is a terribly bitter & jealous person. So she doesn't want us to have a daughter. She says it's because she thinks boys are better & girls are "unnecessary" but I know her well enough after 12 years to know that she's just bitter. Even my father-in-law (they're divorced) said they both wanted a daughter which is why they went back 4 times. She is also strangely religious, involved only relatively recently in one of these pseudo Christian cults. So yesterday she sends me the most INSANE message which I will post here so you can see what I mean about her being a nutcase!! Honestly, now I hope the baby IS a girl just to spite her!!

"Really a boy would be better all round I think, easier for everyone and much better for the boys to have a little brother rather than to confuse things with a sister. Either way, the health of the baby and mother is what is most important and God will give unto you a blessed baby of His chosen gender, perfectly designed. Amen. :-)"

I'm so wildly angry about it.

[LittleBabyJones]

It looks like a girl, you can definitely tell at 13 weeks as well. that's awesome so happy for you!

[odd]

Steph...ur hubby doesn't yet know the gender??? Wow, u r good :)))

Primal, we must have the same mother in law coz that sounds exactly like mine..ugh!!

[PrimalMamma]

Ugh you have my pity Odd! Brings a new meaning to "Monster In Law" doesn't it?! She has 4 adult sons, her husband has 6 adult children & they are estranged from all of them. Between the 2 of them there are 9 grandchildren, 7 of them they have never met, the other 2 (my boys) are only able to see her supervised by us & we do not allow them to see her husband whatsoever as we suspect he may have molested some or all of his children. They only live one street away so it is a really foul situation.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Yes, because it's wildly confusing for your boys to have a little sister versus a little brother. You know, that pink onesie can really cause problems for older brothers. There have probably been thousands of older brothers in therapy because they had little sisters instead of little brothers.....(insert GIANT eye roll here).

But I feel ya. My MIL is also a complete whack-a-doodle. She says the opposite kind of stuff though. She desperately wanted a daughter (has two sons) and has rooted for every grandchild she has had (4 for us and 1 for DHs brother) to be a girl. But the funny part is that she doesn't give two seconds of care toward ANY of her grandchildren. Heck, she didn't even meet Dhs brothers baby until a few weeks ago (he is 4 months old!) But she always makes rude comments about how she figured we "could produce a couple of granddaughters for her" and how "it would be a shame if this was another boy." I actually find it a little vengefully delightful to produce so many boys :) My SIL is has a son, we have two (and I do suspect a third on the way, although def not for sure. Just a hunch). So my daughter is her only granddaughter. And she acts like she doesn't exist too. So at least the treatment is fair. Haha!!

[PrimalMamma]

Yes Hotdogz, terribly confusing, all those pink onesies and - gasp - a VAGINA! How will my children cope if this baby IS one of those girl-monsters!? No boy in the history of humankind has ever had a baby sister & come out unscathed! 😜

I get frightfully defensive of my sons too, every "FX this one is a girl" comment makes me bristle... Yes I want a daughter but that is my desire to carry not anyone else's, & my boys are awesome so another boy would be equally fantastic.

And how bizarre is your MIL's behaviour? You would think she would be showering unequalled affection on her single granddaughter. I'm glad she isn't for your sons/nephews sakes but it doesn't make sense that a girl is the holy grail & yet she doesn't pay her any attention. Odd.

[stephk]

Omg I cannot believe your mother in laws- primal I hope you have a girl too just to spite the horrible woman. I can't believe she wrote that. People really should keep such thoughts to themselves, they don't realise (I hope) the effect they have on you, and also your children if they can also hear it.

[PrimalMamma]

I'm SO sorry Steph I thought you wrote that message for some reason but it was Hotdogz! I will edit it now! I'm sure your mother in law is not a nutter like ours!!

[PrimalMamma]

Kitkat I can't work out how to post to babynub.com I've been trying since Tuesday & there doesn't seem to be anywhere on the site for me to start a new thread, even after following the directions in the "help" section.

Oh well. I wish I could stop nubsessing I swore I wouldn't but it's all gone out the window I'm trolling the Internet day & night for nub pics & can't even sleep properly. I hope it settles down soon! I've still got 5 weeks til my morph scan & I will be a nervous wreck by then. I'm actually regretting having the NF scan done at all now.

[stephk]

I don't have a MIL but some other members of his family make up for nuttiness :)

[kitkat18]

Its a girl ladies!!!!! Beyond excited Xxxx
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[kitkat18]

P.s off to shop!!
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[PrimalMamma]

😱😱😱😱👏👏👏👏👏OMG Kitkat!!!!!
🌺🎀🌸👑🎀💖💋
I am hopeful I'll be smashing the pink in the Boxing Day sales!!!

[PrimalMamma]

OMG KITKAT!!! Congratulations!!!!
🎀🌺💜💖🌸👑💋
I'll be smashing the Boxing Day Sales if this baby is pink!!

[hotdogz&boyz]

Congrats kitkat!! So exciting :)

[Babybeaublue]

Congrats kitkat! !

[odd]

Congratulations KitKat...preety sure no one is surprised ;) enjoy shopping

[business.woman]

Congrats Kitkat !!!!

[covered in blue]

Yay Congrats :) I'm soooooooooooooooo excited for you Kitkat!

[sweetdream]

Congrats kitkat!!

[HopingForHairbows]

Yay!! Congrats kitkat!! So very excited for you!! Have you started buying girly clothes yet??

[bluebonnet22]

Congrats KitKat! So happy for you! Enjoy your well deserved pink shopping!

[Mrs_Incredible]

congratulations kitkat!! It's an amazing feeling, enjoy the shopping :) it's so exciting buying girly things!!!! Hugs xxx

[kitkat18]

Thanks guys!! This forum really has been a lifesaver for me I feel sooo lucky to have found you all and icing on the cake to have my wee daughter. Its so thrilling to even say it!!!
Primal mama and hoping for hairbows your turn next for girly news!!
Xxxxxxx
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[kitkat18]

Kitkat I can't work out how to post to babynub.com I've been trying since Tuesday & there doesn't seem to be anywhere on the site for me to start a new thread, even after following the directions in the "help" section.

Oh well. I wish I could stop nubsessing I swore I wouldn't but it's all gone out the window I'm trolling the Internet day & night for nub pics & can't even sleep properly. I hope it settles down soon! I've still got 5 weeks til my morph scan & I will be a nervous wreck by then. I'm actually regretting having the NF scan done at all now.

Honey!! I sooo joined that club!! Over at babynub.com they actually encourage it!! Did you register ? Use your PC not your phone...it was straightforward for me but I did it on my PC. I found it great as you can private message jenaemma and she drew on my pics and said how confident she was that it was a girl, plus lovemy4 who guesses here too is a potty shot expert!! Good luck I think you will find it reassuring Xx

[kitkat18]

Okay register logon go to ultrasound gender prediction click on new thread top right , then add images and text then post. You can do it all from your mobile. I just posted an update, good luck!! X
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[essnce629]

Your news just made my day Kitkat!!!! So excited for you and your pink bundle!!! Congrats!

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks Kitkat I've done it now. Sick with nerves!!

[stephk]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! Congrats Kitkat!!

[kitkat18]

Primal mama I saw it!! Didn't want to comment as I wanted to wait for the experts! Im sure you will get all Girly guesses Xx
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[laVieEnRose]

Fab news kitkat!!! It must be an amazing feeling! X

[Sunflower3]

Congrats Kitkat!!!


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[laVieEnRose]

Am I the only team green left here?! Lol xx

[Sunflower3]

Am I the only team green left here?! Lol xx

I am still team green!!! 23 weeks 1day!

[laVieEnRose]

Yeah sunflower! :-)

[Babybeaublue]

Me too, I'm not finding out any time soon

[eleena2014]

Does anyone k ow how queenb3blue is?

[Sweet mummy]

Congrats kitkat!!! I just knew you would hear girl lovely :) So excited for you and enjoy shopping pink xoxo

[kitkat18]

Thanks ladies!! I think you guys are more excited for me than my own friends! It was so great telling my mum she cried then brought me the girliest outfit ever lots of pink ruffles!! and DH 's mum sent us a massive bouquet of pink roses. I brought a few things but I felt like I was shopping for someone else hehe!! DH (who didnt know i swayed and wanted a third boy)has been actually quite pleased and protective ever since!

I hope everyone gets their desired gender we all deserve it!!!

Team green will be so special ladies and if its a girl that would be the icing on the cake!

How are you doing eleena? I have been thinking of you, I haven't heard from queenb in a while Xxx
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[HopingForHairbows]

I am team green... but only until next Friday! I am getting super nervous for my scan. We haven't told anybody about the pregnancy yet, and I have to announce after the scan, so that just adds to my anxiety. I need to stop looking at little pink clothes.

Speaking of pink clothes... I would love to see some of your purchases KitKat!

[eleena2014]

Kitkat so pleased for u.x I am getting there.feeling a lot better physically. Just feel like it's messed everything up now as our Edd was may which would have been perfect for us.but at the moment I don't want to even think about trying again yet x

[kitkat18]

Hairbows I will post tonight! I am 100% sure its a little lady for you too but you know how nub sessed and freaked out I was!! In the last few days before the scan I just started picturing myself with another boy etc just in case and kept repeating to myself that I would love this baby no matter what! I probably sound crazy but we all know how horrid GD is!!
Deep breaths helped on the day too. Good luck I just know you will be buying pink Xx
Eleena honey my heart breaks for you, take your time you will know when you are ready to try again! Make sure those boys give you big squishy hugs!!!
Xxx

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[QueenB3blue]

Congrats kitkat! No big surprise though;)!

I started bleeding Wednesday day. I actually felt somewhat relieved :( I knew my dates weren't off. Measuring 4 weeks behind just isn't right. I had another ultrasound today which showed an empty sack again. I should be 12 weeks pregnant:( I am hoping that since the sack was only measuring 6 weeks and a fetal pole wasn't showing up that this miscarriage will go more like a 6 week one than 12 week. But still awfully frustrating that my body would hold on for that long!!!!!
If my bleeding doesn't pick up over the weekend then I will go in Monday for the cytotec.

Good luck to everyone who has a scan soon. Wishing happy healthy pregnancies to all:)

[PrimalMamma]

QueenB thank you for giving us an update. I hope things are as quick & straightforward as they possibly can be.

I'm am regretting having the scan enormously. It has turned my relaxed pregnancy into a horrible obsessive stress-fest. I still have plenty of people guessing blue based on the part of the baby that looks similar to a boy nub but the sonographer said is leg. Which just puts so much doubt in my mind. Even the girl guesses start woth "IF the sonographer is right" or "I would have guesses boy if you hadn't explained..." which makes me less certain of their guesses. 100% of the guesses on babynub.com have been boy. I don't know what to think & I don't know why I care so much given I am truly fine with having a boy. And of course I feel like a cow when I know people are having miscarriages & my sister-in-law can't get pregnant.

Kitkat I totally know why you had to keep saying mantra-type statements to yourself. I am a nervous wreck & can't work out how to calm down.

I'm actually considering getting offline completely & deleting all my US pics from my phone/computer so I am forced to stop looking at them.

[HopingForHairbows]

Primalmamma please don't beat yourself up over there. I hoped not to see a nub at my scan and not to get a picture with any hint of a nub for the same reasons. I told myself from day one that baby would be a boy and was at peace with it until my 12 week scan. Suddenly I saw hope of having a girl and became nutty. For almost two straight weeks I did nothing but stare at nubs. Comparing mine to girl and boy nubs and trying to find a similarity or difference with all of them.
We are human. And we are on this site for a reason. Nobody will judge you for gender desire here so please don't feel like a "cow."
If you need to take a break from the Internet perhaps you should give it a try for a couple of days to see if it helps, but we will be here waiting to talk. We understand what you are feeling, and it is okay. I am sending big hugs your way. Know you are not alone. I am right there with you. I'm even paying for a private scan because of it. Xoxo

[kitkat18]

Could not agree more with you hairbows!! I am so sorry if I made it worse sending you over to baby nub.com honey. Its a horrible feeling the not knowing when you had a glimmer of hope!! Taking a break is a good idea I had to do that many a time when ttc girl cause I was finding myself obsessing too much and it did me so much good.

If you do want more of an indication I personally would ask for the DVD from the scan or look into an early gender scan it would be worth every penny just to stop worrying!! You might be able to shop around and find a better price?
BIG HUGS!! Xx
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[PrimalMamma]

Hi Girls, I've decided that getting off the forums is best for me for a while. I'm not really sure in what capacity I will do this - I might check back in once a week, or I might just stay off completely until I've had my scan. I have an apt with my GP this week to get the referral for my morph scan which I'm hopeful can be done in the week before Xmas. My midwife said they like it to be done at 19 weeks now & I got DS2's done at 18 weeks because I had a small bleed so while I was in the ED they sent me down for the scan at that point. I'll be totally devo if I have to wait until later. I'm not really worried about the result as such, I'm more hating the obsessing I'm doing. I actually now have a strong feeling that this baby might be pink... and having that hope terrifies me because up until now I had expected to have minimal gender disappointment if the baby does end up being a boy. However now I feel like I will be crushed. So I really feel like it's best for me to just focus on having a BABY - not a boy, or a girl, just a child. Once I have the results I will definitely be back on here as I love being part of this community & feel like I've actually made friends here! So as I said - I may check back in briefly here & there but I won't be around anywhere near as much until I know the gender for sure. Then I'll be back to celebrate, whether the result is pink or blue. :-)

Best of luck to everyone, see you round... xx

[kitkat18]

Totally understand primal mama! I will look forward to your update of a much wanted and cherished boy or girl!! Xxx

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[kitkat18]

P.s we will miss you!! So make sure you do come back!! Xx
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[Sweet mummy]

QueenB3blue tons of hugs through this difficult time and hoping it goes by quickly xx

PrimalMamma, I'm also obsessing and I haven't even got a scan picture yet! I totally respect your decision to go away and reflect for a bit. Sometimes we all need a little self preservation because GD ain't easy, so take your time to cherish the little bub you're growing. He or she is going to be so loved and welcomed!

I'm meant to have my scan on Tuesday evening (will be 12w 2d) but now DH will be away most of the week we need to reschedule to next week. Hopefully they will be accommodating and once all goes well, I will post a 13 week scan pic for guessing.

Hope you're all well! I've got minor headaches everyday that last all day and a very bleh taste in my mouth! :( xxx

[kitkat18]

That is perfect timing for an accurate guess!! Good luck it will be wonderful to see baby!!
Is it a sour taste? Both blessed mumma and I still have that and are both having little ladies!! FXFX
How is everyone else? Anymore scans?
Has anyone thought of names?
Xx

[Sweet mummy]

Scan swapped to next Tuesday at 7pm so fingers crossed all is well!

Yep kitkat it's best description is a sour taste - exactly the word...I've just chewed through half a packet of gum and it is still there ugh!! If it is a "girl trait" I'll take it though lol Anyone else have headaches? I'm not a pill popper so I just soldier on through but gosh the constant dull ache is like torture.

Can't wait to hear about more scans and how everyone else is too!! Xx

[HopingForHairbows]

My scan is 4 days away now. Holy nervousness! I'm trying not to think about it, but that's basically impossible. I felt my first solid bump from inside this morning. 15 weeks exactly and I guess the kicks will start now. So exciting. How's everyone feeling

[Sweet mummy]

Ekkkk 4 day hairbows...how exciting!!! I just know you will hear girl :)

[stephk]

Good luck hair bows!!

Sweet mummy sorry about the headaches. I've had them with both pregnancies so don't think it's one way or the other (for me anyway). Hope they go away for you.

Now things are out in the open, everyone is happy for me and its all great but I feel really guilty for having a preference! I did before but even more so now, no idea why. Anyone else feel this way? I know I would have loved a boy but I would have been disappointed for a moment and I feel guilty for that.

[PrimalMamma]

Hi girls. Being off the forums hasn't helped one iota with my nubsessing. I've been up since 3am today just tossing & turning. I have no idea how to relax. The more I look at the photos the more I'm convinced. The more convinced I am the more terrified I am. I can't tell you how much I am regretting having the scan. I've contacted every nursing friend I know to find out if they know a sonographer that could look at my scans but none of them do. If that "boy nub" that probably isn't a nub but might be a nub wasn't there I don't think I would feel anywhere near as worried. I feel like I'm living in a nightmare right now - not as bad as other nightmares others may be having but a nightmare nonetheless. I'm a nervous wreck & long for the beautiful, relaxed pregnancy I was having prior to the scan. I've looked into paying for a gender scan but there is nowhere that does them where I live.

[odd]

Oh my primal. I m sorry u r having such a hard time.

I know it's easier said than done...but u have to keep reminding ursrlf that boy or girl..this is it...maybe meditation may help relax u a bit???

I would just focus on the big picture of having a new baby and other aspects rather than fixating on gender...cuz in the end, it is all but a guessing game and u maybe setting ursrlf up for failure by getting ur hopes up??

I'm sorry if I'm not making sense, but these are the things that helped me

[Junie]

Hi Primal. I don't mean to crash your thread but I just wanted to let you know that I have always loved reading your posts and I think you have been doing such a good job dealing with this whole crazy process. Maybe it would help if you gave yourself a day or two to obsess and think every thought and do weird research and then try to put it aside for a few weeks? Or consider driving a few hrs and getting a gender scan- yes it may be over the top BUT if helps you have peace of mind for the coming weeks it is probably worth it :) I hope things get better for you soon!

[PrimalMamma]

Thank you Odd and Junie. My friend who is a nurse (with an emergency consultant doctor husband no less!) managed to contact a sonographer today who is confident in saying she has never been wrong & she said she felt the scans indicate boy. In some ways I feel relief. Logic says that now I can stop obsessing. I don't feel disappointed at all but (& this sounds REALLY dumb) I can't help questioning it. She said the potty shot particularly looks male. Yet I have a confirmed male and confirmed female potty shot at the same gestation & the girl one looks identical to mine & the boy one looks VASTLY different. I can't help wondering if my baby will be the first one she gets wrong.
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[PrimalMamma]

Sorry not sure why the other one didn't attach, here it is for comparison.
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[Sweet mummy]

Primal this must be absolutely nerve wrecking for you! I imagine I will be in the exact same position next week. At least you can feel assured that when she did say boy you didn't break down and actually felt relief!

I hate to be a nay sayer too but I also think boy because there seems to be scrotum in your pic and the protrusion is a lot further out than the confirmed girl bits. Please do not take this as anything more than a guess from a NON-expert and I desperately want you to hear girl instead and rub that fact in my face :) xxx

[HopingForHairbows]

I'm sorry Primal. I wish I could lend you some comfort, but I know what you are going through is not easy. I am currently taking college classes, so sometimes my workload is able to take my mind off of things for a while. Maybe you can find a project to work on that will do the same for you? Or maybe read a book that you've been wanting to read for a long while? Or binge watch a television series on Netflix? I'm sure you have tried many things, I am just trying to think of a way that I can help. For now, I am sending you lots and lots of virtual hugs. xoxo

[QueenB3blue]

Primal, I am so sorry you are feeling this way.
I know nothing anyone says is going to shut off your brain:) BUT these are the things I wanted to point out.
Your tech was absolutely positive that that "boy nub" was NOT the nub. I feel like even if another tech looks at the still shot they have a disadvantage because they did not see it in "real time".
I know atomic guessed on your nub, I know she is not a nub person but she was very confident in her guess. And I know she doesn't like to give false hope.
Now for the potty shot:) I don't think they like to go by potty shots at this stage because they ALL protrude from the body. That is how we get a "nub" because it all sticks out;) I am no expert. But I don't think your potty shot matches the boy potty shot. The big difference to me is the middle line. It does not stick out past or even equal to the outer lines. Which makes me think clitoris not penis:-D

Who knows who is right on their guess? Nobody, because it is a GUESS. Whether you find out today or weeks from now the gender is not going to change of the growing baby inside you, get what I mean? Baby is going to love you boy or girl. You are going to love baby boy or girl. It is what it is.

Honestly I think most of us who have gd are going to either obsess over the gender or obsess over not obsessing. Maybe concentrate on that day of your sons taekwondo performance. Remember how you felt when your youngest hugged your oldest. What you felt in that moment was the love of a mother. Those feeling brought tears of joy. Love and Joy that would not have changed if it was sons or daughters you were proud of.

Please don't beat yourself up because you can't control what you are feeling! And I think you should deem this 3rd child of yours grounded for life for being such a little tease;)

[hotdogz&boyz]

I'm here and reading. Wanted to send hugs to you Primal. I stand by my guess, but I can tell it all is just tearing you up. :( Sorry the scan made it worse instead of better. I do think processing it all is good, instead of keeping it inside.

Me...I'm keeping it all inside ;) Lol. Next week is my scan for heart and spine and placenta. I am so nervous. I hope baby is okay. I've been so sick these past few weeks, I seriously think stress has been working against me and I've caught one thing after another (currently bronchitis). I think I'll be better after I hear whatever the prognosis on baby is. I just have this feeling that I can't explain, like I need to be prepared or something. Which makes me think something is wrong. I hope I'm just projecting and thinking the worst and baby is okay. I can even deal with a c-section for previa, I just want a healthy heart and spine (we have spina bifida in my family, which adds to the nerves).

Anywho. I hope the gender scans and nub shots go great!! I'll be back around after we have more answers. It's just been a weird month. Hoping you ladies all hear what you want!!

[sweetdream]

Pnirmal big Hugs! I know your fine with a boy and I did the same as you! I wanted to make peace with another Son. And I was but I've spend loads of nights googling and I didn't have a nub pic. Saw one at 15 WK's and thought it was nothing as I was 15 weeks.
Then I saw confirmed girl pics from 15 WK's. And her we went again. It was horrible. I felt beaten like my last hope was gone. (Though it al pointed at girl) I just didn't want to go to the place i've been 3 times before.
The disapointment. I didn't want to do that to me and my baby.
I tried to convince myself it was a Son and be happy about it.
But limboland is horrible.
When I was at the scan and was Told girl I felt peace. But I know what I would have felt if I was Told boy. (Hate myself for that)
Now I know that it has nothing to do with our child cause I now can honestly say I feel exactly the same to my unborn daughter as I did to my lovely sins at the same gestation.
And knowing THAT brings the most peace. I would have loved another Son just as much.

I can't help you with your feelings. I find the pics hard to guess on 50-50.
But I can let you know that I think what your going through is normal.


Big Hugs

[Babybeaublue]

Sorry you are going through this stress primal, you have made my mind up I am definitely team green..

Has anyone heard from mumofsix??? Freaking out a bit about her. :/

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks everyone... Hotdogz that must be stressful, I think alot of mothers worry that their baby might be unwell but when there is actually congenital illness in your family it must be extremely nerve wracking. Wishing you a healthy & uncomplicated scan.

BabyBeau I think you're wise, I wouldn't have stayed Team Green for the entire pregnancy but if I could go back now I certainly would stay Team Green until the point that I could find out for sure.

Sweet Dream you're right the limbo land is terrible but I am feeling a bit better, only because when my friend's sonographer friend said "BOY" I wasn't devistated. I haven't been able to work out what I am upset & afraid of but I think now that it's not having a boy, I'm actually afraid of being upset. My last two pregnancies were full of anxiety, fear & stress & I don't want another pregnancy like that. Don't get me wrong I do think there will be some level of disappointment if this baby turns out to be blue but I don't think I will fall to pieces.

So now I'm trying to look at it like that, an exciting and slightly anxious wait to find out more about this baby that I already love. We have picked a boy's name which I'm practicing writing down & I think I am finally adjusting to this new state of my pregnancy with less dear & panic than before.

Thanks all for your concern. Xx

[Babybeaublue]

I told the midwife I was still feeling sick today and she said "oh another girl then" why say anything like that??

[PrimalMamma]

Oh that's really insensitive BabyBeau. My cousin, close friend and oh, PRINCESS KATE all suffered with hyperemesis and had boys so that whole girl=sick thing is just a myth anyway. People always say insensitive stuff to pregnant women, a Team Leader at work has taken to addressing me as "Fatty". She seems to think it's endearing. She's really busty so I did consider calling her "Titties" in return but have decided against it because, well, I'm not a complete arsehole!!

[Babybeaublue]

Lol titties made me laugh!!! What about big baps?

Apparently because I felt sick with the rest too then it must be a girl. I told her that my sickness stopped at 13 weeks with the rest and I'm now 17 wks (2morro) she just said "oh"

[PrimalMamma]

I just totally don't believe in the symptoms indicating gender in any capacity. All 3 of my pregnancies have been different, the first 2 so much so I swore DS2 was a girl and I was shocked when I found out he was another boy. I swelled so bad with DS1 my feet, ankles and hands were like plasticine. I could literally push finger indents into my feet & ankles & had to have my wedding rings cut off at the fire department. DS2 I didn't swell at all & wore my wedding rings all the way through. I carried all out front with DS2 and all over with DS1. I got a linea negra with DS2 but not DS1. I got stretchmarks with DS2 and not DS1. I had greasy hair & acne with DS1, not DS2. I craved vegan food & lime milkshakes with DS1 and Whoppers, hotdogs & strawberry flavoured milk with DS2. Don't sweat it. xx

[kitkat18]

Hoping for hair bows deep breaths honey we will all be thinking of you Friday! I know you will hear girl but I also know the fear of not knowing, doubting the pics etc I would watch some easy t.v anything to take your mind off it all , good luck honey x
Stephk yes i know what you mean I am constantly down playing my excitement as I don't want people to think I love my boys any less!! Have you shopped yet? Was DH happy?
Hotdogz thinking of you honey I think you are just preparing yourself but I am sure your little boy or girl is 100% healthy, I will be thinking of you next week and hope you get the all clear on heart/spine.
Primal mamma yah!!! For coming back! We have all been there and totally get what you are going through big hugs I hope DH is being supportive of your crazy and you can find a clinic that does gender scans that is not to far away or to expensive if that helps.
Babybeau how are you? Yes I am a bit worried about her too! She might come back and update at the birth of her twinnies
Xxx

[PrimalMamma]

Ugh, so got my referral for my morph scan. One place will do it at 19 weeks but charges $230 with no rebates. The other place is FREE, but will only do it at 20 weeks or later. 20 weeks for me is Xmas Eve, I will be 400km north in my hometown & my husband won't arrive til late that night. So I've booked 2 scans, one on Xmas Eve & one a week later & over the next few weeks I'll decide what I want to do. I'm reluctant to do it on Xmas Eve not only because I'll have to do it alone but also because if it's a boy & I find myself upset I won't have any time to collect myself & pretend to be ok. I don't want my family to realise how upset I am (if that's how I react). On the other hand I want to find out ASAP. Money is really really tight & as my husband said when I ran it past him we simply cannot afford to pay that much for something that is free 7 days later. Sigh. Again if I hadn't had the stupid NT scan it wouldn't even be an issue, we would have the money there to pay for it early & I also wouldn't have the same level of urgency so it wouldn't be as big a deal to wait a week. Ugh.

[HopingForHairbows]

I've been wondering how MumofSix has been doing also. I hope all is well for her and she is just super busy getting ready for the arrival of her twins!!

KitKat i must be hard to pretend not to be uber excited, but I can totally understand it at the same time. Are you getting a lot of "Finally got your girl" and "So you are done now huh?" comments? I am worried about those just about as much as I worry about hearing "Aww sorry you got another boy instead of a girl"

Primal that stinks I am sorry. Christmas will be here before we know it though. I know that doesn't help, but each passing day you will be a little calmer and a little more at peace. I promise.

[HopingForHairbows]

I believe I am in one of the later time zones of all of us ladies, so I think my Friday scan will end up being Saturday for most of you, especially because it is not until 6:15 pm EST! Either way, I can't wait to update you guys. Just 28 more hours. Haha

[PrimalMamma]

I seem to remember MumofSix saying something about money being tight & having to get rid of her computer or cancel her Internet access or something like that. I looked back through this thread & couldn't see it so maybe it was in another thread or maybe I imagined it, but I'm sure it was an access/money issue.

Hairbows I'll be waiting with baited breath for your results!!!

[kitkat18]

Most people are being cool about it, just saying nice for boys to have a sister , nice to have a change etc I have been pleasantly surprised!! Rooting hard for you hairbows!!! I will be stalking this thread.....deep breaths Xx
Primal mama you are correct I remember her posting that too, I miss her!! Would be nice to hear an update!
Primal so trickey...... I actually have no good advice here just go with your gut on this one Xx

[odd]

Good luck hairbows. Can't wait to see ur update:)))

On a different note, my SIL who basically laughed at me when I shared the pregnancy news is apparently expecting again. She hasn't shared the news herself but my mom told me.

She was all high and mighty about her 'career' and always made snide remarks about us choosing to have*gasp* more than one child. But I knew deep down she'd go for it especially after finding out that we were expecting a girl

[laVieEnRose]

Hiya!!

Just to say that I'm still here now and again but like you Primal, I have obsessed soo much over my scan pictures that I had to stop looking on the Internet as it was making me so stressed.
Even reading scan results makes me ache - I'm of course so happy for you girls getting your desired gender, its wonderful - but if I'm completely honest and I do apologise for it, I am also quite envious! And it freaks me out each time ....

So team green is good but also bring some anxieties ...
But hey, what will be will be ...

Big hugs to all of you xxxx

[Babybeaublue]

I'm on such a downer after that midwife telling me this is probably another girl. I really didn't think I cared this time but the realisation of never having a boy makes me feel so sad..

[HopingForHairbows]

Babybeau Don't let your midwife get to you. She didn't have a leg to stand on with that comment. With my youngest son I was so very sick all the way up to my 22nd week. I couldn't gain weight because I could hardly ever eat. He is very much a boy. Morning sickness does not always mean the baby is a girl. I can't even believe she bothered to say that. Aren't midwives trained to be sensitive to pregnant women? Ugh.

[Babybeaublue]

It's the fact she thinks because I've felt sick with them all means that this must be another girl. I know it means nothing but things like that put doubts in your head.

[PrimalMamma]

BabyBeau even if you baby is a girl it has nothing to do with being sick. My friend had hyperemisis all 3 pregnancies, she has 1 boy 2 girls. Another friend had it in one of her 2 pregnancies, she has 2 boys. Another in one pregnancy only - 4 girls. It's the same as the people who keep saying to me "ooh you're carrying all out front - it's another boy!" Even health professionals get caught up in the mysteriousness of it all - DS2 told my GP that the baby is a girl & she said it probably WILL be a girl because "children have a 6th sense about these things". A DOCTOR telling me in all seriousness about a 6th sense!! Dumb, unfounded, old wives tales stuff.

[HopingForHairbows]

Ladies... it's a girl :)

[odd]

Biiiig congrats hoping:)))))

[kitkat18]

Soooooo happy for you hair bows, I so knew it but lovely to have that confirmation, something tells me you are going to go pink crazy enjoy!!!
La vie honey I so hear you, I would be feelings just the same as you . The funny thing is I thought I would feel so complete after getting my DG but I don't, I'm super happy and its deft, lifted this pregnancy , its also made me treasure my boys even more!! Hope that makes sense.....
Baby beau ignore your midwife she is full of BS!!!!! X

[PrimalMamma]

Hooray for pink news!!!! Congrats Hairbows!!!

[Sunflower3]

HFH congrats on hearing pink!!!
Is anyone else still team green?


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[PrimalMamma]

Not by choice, Sunflower! Lol