August Thread for TTC Blue - Chit Chat!

[LolaInLove]

Awww, another gone to school! I know how you feel about hoping no one teases her, poor thing. I bet she will be just fine, get her big sissies to teach her how to stick up for herself! Hummus is a spread/dip made from garbanzo beans or chickpeas with onion and some other spices blended in. It's delish, one of my favorite things, and has protein and cards in it, as it's a legume. You can buy it in little tubs in the store. My girls love it, too, especially with pretzels or pitas. It's good on bread products and veggies.

[Flava]

I think some girls are missing from here...Like where is zivic? And what happened to Fab?? She is just all gone...

[Flava]

Ohh ok thanks! made from beans so it's good for us lol I will try it for sure.:agree:

[gizmo77]

I think some girls are missing from here...Like where is zivic? And what happened to Fab?? She is just all gone...

i was wondering about zivic too. is she back from her vacation yet?

[Flava]

i was wondering about zivic too. is she back from her vacation yet?

Must be she was only gone for 2 weeks .
Now that the new room is done I need new challenge! So I have to go hunt down some cute decorations for the room and after that Im going to paint all the baseboards in the house house we have lot's of white paint left anyway!

[Hobbermittens]

Awww, another gone to school! I know how you feel about hoping no one teases her, poor thing. I bet she will be just fine, get her big sissies to teach her how to stick up for herself! Hummus is a spread/dip made from garbanzo beans or chickpeas with onion and some other spices blended in. It's delish, one of my favorite things, and has protein and cards in it, as it's a legume. You can buy it in little tubs in the store. My girls love it, too, especially with pretzels or pitas. It's good on bread products and veggies.

I love Hummus too! Do you make your own ever? I was curious about doing that.

[Tink18]

I love decorating. I was obsessed when I did DD's room!!! I cant wait to do another room!! I cant wait to get pregnant!!

[begonia]

ZB is back I'm pretty sure! I saw her post the other day I think?

Flava I second the rec on dipping veg in hummus! So good and EXTRA good for TTC boy! Re: the smileys those are what I used too, but if you pop the stick out of the test thing you can see your fade in pattern just like on a normal non-digital OPK. Have you ever tried that? It might help. But Lola is right too ... nothing wrong with just BD every other day. Have you done that with any of your girls? I know #4 was 1 time O day, and I remember one of them was BD every day. But I think the every other day is good for optimal sperm count and you'll should get w/in 24 hours of your O that way. Seems best of both worlds to me!

Lola sorry your mama doesn't seem to get the depths of the pain with infertility. Soul destroying is probably the best word I've ever heard put to it. And it isn't like I have a clue what it would be like personally I just have a ton of empathy for people going through it as one of my BFFs took 2.5 years. Oh it was hard! And I agree, NTNP is really only if you are kinda "whatever we'll get pg when it happens" and not on like, a CLOCK. No. You are definitely in a situation where you are TRYING and there is no just "whatever" about it. I'm keeping my hopes set on a healthy BFP for you this time around.

So my healthy eating yesterday didn't continue today. The hormones disrupted me yet again and drove me to have a chocolate malt, french fries and a grilled cheese for lunch. *sigh*. I don't even enjoy eating like that, KWIM? It's just what goes down easiest. I was WAY happier yesterday eating my lentils and salad. Hoping tomorrow is another good day.

Oh my goodness on the decorating front we are building a house right now so I have to pick colors for every single room, LOL! And the exterior! I just went and got a crazy mad amount of paint chips to try to decide what to do. DD1 keeps nabbing them for art projects :-)

[Flava]

begonia -I never did it every day that's so not me.LOL
DD1 was 2 times in 2 days. So just 24 hours apart. DD2 was 2 time in 1 night ;P DD3 was just 1 try and DD4 also 1 try swim up.
But I don't want to try every other day because Im scared what if I start to early and get a bfp from that and that's ttc girl right?

You know it's a OWT that if you eat more junk food when you pregnant it's a boy.:wink:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Dragonwiz/clipart/th_eat_2_text.gif (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Dragonwiz/clipart/?action=view&current=eat_2_text.gif)

[Alexis2007]

4Blue-never tried a BS douche. I may try that next time if I still have creamy cm, but not with the watery cm.

Lola-I'm not sure if it was post-O cm or not. I always get lots of creamy cm at O, it's how I always knew I was Oing before charting and all. But I did use the Preseed, so hopefully that cancelled it out! Gosh I hope so! I'm just worried the sperm won't be able to swim through my cm (and this is what I feel has caused me not to conceive so far).

I'm trying to think ahead to next month and I think I will get the Royal Jelly and maybe Bee Pollen. I've heard of other ladies on my other board that have "hostile cm" like me that it has turned hers to watery so far. She's had to turn to IUI because of her cm. I hope it doesn't come to that for me because if it does, I'm SOL cause we definitely can't afford it. Our insurance doesn't cover any infertility treatments. I worry too much lol.

[Flava]

Alexis if you use lot's of pressed of ew I sure it helps the swimmers to get up there!

Lola I was just thinking are you using IC?? I read that other ladies didn't get a bfp for a long time and used IC left it in there for a long time ( no clue how long must be all night or so...) and that's how they got a bfp.
Im also going to use it for sure.

[WashingtonPromise]

MMMM Hummus. I love it on a WW tortilla shell.

Alexis: Don't start talking about next month yet!!! This could be your BFP month girl. Don't think about next month, yet. You are going to be the start to a huge string of them!!! Go Alexis!!! Go Alexis!!!

[Alexis2007]

MMMM Hummus. I love it on a WW tortilla shell.

Alexis: Don't start talking about next month yet!!! This could be your BFP month girl. Don't think about next month, yet. You are going to be the start to a huge string of them!!! Go Alexis!!! Go Alexis!!!

WP-I sure hope I get my BFP this time. I'm just trying to not get my hopes up so I don't get crushed if AF shows. Gotta have time to research this new stuff I want to try too lol!!

[Flava]

Some1 help me understand my stupid tests please because I don't get it!
Yesterday I got peak on the monitor and a smiley test on the morning too. But at night no more smiley.
This morning still got a peak monitor no smiley .
What is this? How can I have still peak ( peak is your best day or days usually 2 to conceive) but no smiley or + opk whatever we call it.
I just wish I started testing earlier on it...but the damn monitor was low so I was thinking no need.:worry:
Loos like I mess this up every month!
So I have no clue when did I O? I was sure today but now I don't know...

[begonia]

Flava I am on my phone so this won't be super well organized but I remember day before yesterday you didn't use an opk right? So there is a possibility you could have gotten a + then too... And the fact that your + was gone by yesterday pm/this am makes me think you most likely o'd sometime yesterday or very early this am. From what i have read opks are a tricky thing and not at all exact. The tough thing with opks is you can get a + even after your egg releases... you can also get a neg prior to the release, it all depends on what part of the surge you are catching if that makes sense. Do you usually get more than 1 day of opk+?

The month I got pg I tested at 2 and 6 starting cd 11 and got neg. Got my + at 2 and 6 on CD 12, but was neg by am of CD13. Based on that plus cm/cp I think I o'd late cd12 or very early cd13.

And of course remember the cycle you actually attempt to get pg will no doubt be the wonkiest one ;-) it's the hardest part I think! Luckily l don't think timin matters a ton... And in your experience it seems you have gotten your girls with different bd patterns so I don't think it is the bd swaying for you. I do think you're right though that bd 2x near o is the one pattern you haven't tried so it is worth a shot!

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia, it does suck to give the girls over, especially when I know they hate being there and don't get the same love and attention they get with us (which the girls tell me!). But, it is what it is. I am having one of those days where I just want to get this over with and get pg, and am feeling sad and hopeless about it all. I talked to my mom about it last night, but she is not very consoling, although she is a sweet and loving woman, she has never dealt with infertility and is also not one to really "talk" about it. She prefers to just say, "Well, I know it must be frustrating, and I will certainly continue to pray for you." I'm like, FRUSTRATING? Try soul-destroying. Anyway, I think I just have this doomsday feeling, like I've got this 2nd round of Clomid and then one more to try, and then I can't anymore and who knows, maybe it will never happen. My mom said maybe when we "stop trying" it will happen, but you can't stop trying, either I'm trying or I'm not. There is no in-between at this point. If I say we are not trying, but are not preventing, then in my mind, I'm trying. I may not do opks or anything, but I will certainly be watching my cm and cycle and wanting to take hpts, kwim! Anyway, rant over......man, you girls have no idea how much I hope none of you have to do this for as long as I have.

I have been thinking about you lately Lola.....

First off, you have a great additude for someone that has been trying for so long. Secondly, your right, TTCing is hard on us and we do need to be positive, AND you don't need to lose sight of your miracle baby either. You are always being so encouraging to us....Under the mounds supplements, extra pounds, extra food, and past your guarded heart is your dream baby. And you will have him. Your not going to have a "doomsday" where the clomid is gone and so is your chance at TTCing. With the right positive attitude and enough will power people (women) can do amazing things. Plus, (DH uses this all the time) is anything too hard for God? God will not withhold any goods things from those who love him. Your body was just getting use to the Clomid last cycle....this one could be it....let it be the cycle that you were in the best spirits, you deserve a happy ending to you TTC journey.

My SIL tried for 3 yrs with no luck at all at getting pg. They had tons of tests done and they all came back fine. Then one day AF was late. She had a beautiful boy. In the past 4 years she has had 3 children back to back, just as soon as she started having cycles again she was pregnant.

You just don't know your path, sometimes it is a bit more crooked then the person traveling next to you.

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[WashingtonPromise]

Alexis: I know each cycle takes planning. I just want you to know that I am cheering for you!!!


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[LolaInLove]

I love Hummus too! Do you make your own ever? I was curious about doing that.

I have, it's pretty easy as long as you have a good food processor or blender. There are lots of recipes online, but I just do simple hummus with some garlic, olive oil, onion, lemon juice, and s/p in it.

ZB is back, and I know MFC is taking a break. She emailed me and was kinda asking for advice, I think she will be back in a bit after her fasting month is over.

[LolaInLove]

WP-I sure hope I get my BFP this time. I'm just trying to not get my hopes up so I don't get crushed if AF shows. Gotta have time to research this new stuff I want to try too lol!!

This is me exactly. Did you have creamy only cm with your girls? Hmmm.....I know the hostile cm thing can be a big hindrance for people, but seems like you don't have that problem since you got pg before. I wouldn't worry too much about it just yet, Alexis. Once you've been ttc for 6 months and nothing, then maybe you should worry, but don't now. I know oodles of friends who took 3-4 months and it was no big deal. And FXFXFX this is our month, all of us!!!!

Flava, sorry I can't help with the monitor, I just use wondfo opks. I am sure someone will give you good advice!!!

[LolaInLove]

I have been thinking about you lately Lola.....

First off, you have a great additude for someone that has been trying for so long. Secondly, your right, TTCing is hard on us and we do need to be positive, AND you don't need to lose sight of your miracle baby either. You are always being so encouraging to us....Under the mounds supplements, extra pounds, extra food, and past your guarded heart is your dream baby. And you will have him. Your not going to have a "doomsday" where the clomid is gone and so is your chance at TTCing. With the right positive attitude and enough will power people (women) can do amazing things. Plus, (DH uses this all the time) is anything too hard for God? God will not withhold any goods things from those who love him. Your body was just getting use to the Clomid last cycle....this one could be it....let it be the cycle that you were in the best spirits, you deserve a happy ending to you TTC journey.

My SIL tried for 3 yrs with no luck at all at getting pg. They had tons of tests done and they all came back fine. Then one day AF was late. She had a beautiful boy. In the past 4 years she has had 3 children back to back, just as soon as she started having cycles again she was pregnant.

You just don't know your path, sometimes it is a bit more crooked then the person traveling next to you.

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WP, you are so very sweet! Thank you for taking the time to write this, I had some tears in my eyes reading it. You are so right also, all I can do is believe it will happen, and I do trust that God has a baby in my future. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I did use an IC the first 3 or 4 months I was ttc last year, but to no avail. Hmmm, maybe it is worth trying again? I may pick some up later. I kept worrying, though, that I was blocking the sperm and putting it in wrong. I think the trick is to get as upside down as you possibly can and then put it in, yea?

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- thanks hun, the party was so much fun! Perfect your paleo sway and stick to whole eggs and full fat dairy. You'll keep your weigh gain under control by watching how much nuts and fruits you intake. Dairy is a moderation thing so no need to avoid it just keep it to a couple times a week. Remeber high fat, high protein, high nutrient for your sway. DH has been paleo for nearly a year now and the rest of us (yes the kids too) converted 5/6 months back. I was paleo + potatoes when I conceived and I honestly think it's great lifestyle and a good route to a boy, guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

Wp- yeah dh's family really values the sons, it's all about the family name. The you need to have a boy thing started when dd1 was 30 days old, she's 9 1/2 now. It's gotten real damn old.

B- LOVE the early morning cuddles, dd3 slept with me last night so we could snuggle all night! I can't believe she's 4 :(

Flava- are you taking fish oil, it did more for my cm then anything else! Ooh yes try hummus, so good! I could eat my weight in hummus and pita chips lol
Here's hoping you're right about the junk food= boy, I've been living off French fries, chicken nuggets and Totino's pizzas lol

Lola- don't lose hope hun, I know it's devastating to get month after month of bfn. I know your journey as been so long but you have to have faith that you will get there. And ita not preventing IS trying, if you know there's a chance you'll still obsess.

B3blue- we love Fancy Nancy! dd2 had a Fancy Nancy party when she turned 4, it was so frilly and fun!

Alexis- bsf will turn your cm watery without washing it all away.

Yesterday was dd3's actual birthday so we spent the day doing at the zoo. It's her favorite place in the world so into the 90+ degree heat we went. The older two were at school so she got the royal treatment, I bought her cotton candy, she rode the carrousel and the train. In our house you get whatever you want for your birthday dinner and my silly bunny wanted homemade soup lol Before she went to bed she told me it was the best birthday ever! I love making their birthdays extra special but man am I tired today. In fact I think it's time for a nap lol

[LolaInLove]

Awww, HAPPY BDAY to your little one, 3PNB! Sounds like you had a fabulous night and day together. Love that stuff so much. Your girls....well, all of our kids, sound so sweet!

[Flava]

begonia- you right I did not used opk before the first + because the freaking monitor was low so I wan thinking why waste it.
Then it jumped to peak the next day.:mad:
I better start testing on cd 9 or so next month. Looks like I O early now...
but to when to dtd and twice no clue at all!

oh I just checked and I did started the damn monitor at cd8 this month!!! Only it was low all the way till first peak ahhh!

[Flava]

Lola- try the IC !!! I got 5 bfp with it so it's working! Plus you dtd every other day so if you are a little scared from it just use it on every other BD.

[Flava]

3pink- I do take fish oil 2/day. Maybe I need more? The bottle says take 3 /day...I try next month.
You sure have a boy in there just remember what purple said!:wink:

For your little girl:

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[Tink18]

How Funny 3P That was the only thing I felt i was potentially Lacking is potatoes, So I was going to add them in here soon. I have lost 12 pound in the past month in a half. And then wasn't too sure about the dairy thing. So good to know. I still have some time before my sway. I just cant decide when to do our first attempt. I am so scared that if we go for it in Sept And I happened to get pregnant I will be really sick at my cousins wedding which would such because that is exactly what happened at my other friends wedding. I would like to avoid this since I am the maid of honor. My cousins wedding is really important to me, she is like my sister. So Dh and I keep saying we can wait till Oct. Since I will ovulate closer to her wedding date...then part of me is like fuck it..what if it takes me longer to get pregnant and I'm just wasting months...I just don't know. Whatever the case is I am so excited to just get to it...I want to be pregnant..boy or girl. I almost don't care at this point I just want to love on a baby...mmmm newborn smell is like crack!

3P, when do you get to find out if the bean is a boy or girl?? I am so excited for you!!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, ITA w Begonia, I don't think timing matters (for anyone) and it doesn't seem to have been a factor for you. If you want to make it easy, I swear, just dtd every 48 hours right over O....start on day 10. I promise, my doctor said it is the BEST for raising sperm count and easy for getting pg. I know you may hate that idea, but LOTS of the girls in a poll I saw had boys from either dtd every day or every other day. Just thought I'd throw that out there since it's a plan that makes it a lot easier and less stressful.

[LolaInLove]

Lola- try the IC !!! I got 5 bfp with it so it's working! Plus you dtd every other day so if you are a little scared from it just use it on every other BD.

Ah, ok thanks! I do wonder if I may be dumping them because I ALWAYS have to pee after bding and try to hold it for 30 min while propped.

[LolaInLove]

Since I will ovulate closer to her wedding date...then part of me is like fuck it..what if it takes me longer to get pregnant and I'm just wasting months...I just don't know. Whatever the case is I am so excited to just get to it...I want to be pregnant..boy or girl. I almost don't care at this point I just want to love on a baby...mmmm newborn smell is like crack!

Girl, I say go for it in October....it's only one month, kwim? Might as well enjoy the wedding and feel extra prepared. And I am with you, I am almost not caring anymore if I have a boy or not, I just want a real live baby. Not to say I'm not doing a little swaying, of course. Awesome that you lost 12lbs though, good for you!!!

[Flava]

Lola I know!! This is just me so scared really so I whine over everything I guess...I just don't know anyone who dtd every other day and got a boy. But you say you do so that's good. hmmm maybe I start as soon I see ewcm?
Also I did not think 2 day is enough to get the sperm count back up I learned on IG that 4 day is best. But I didn't get my boy from IG so I guess I better forget that!
And how come it's almost Sept.? It was just April omg I thought I have so much time left!

[Flava]

Ah, ok thanks! I do wonder if I may be dumping them because I ALWAYS have to pee after bding and try to hold it for 30 min while propped.

I know for a lot's of ppl 30 min is more then enough time to get a bfp but for some it's not! Some1 said who got a bfp I think Kris (if not sorry) she did the same thing put legs up for a while and then she also need to go pee so put in IC before go and just leave it in there for a while.
Umm I will do the same thing lol or I do TBM so I use the IC anyway.

[LolaInLove]

Lola I know!! This is just me so scared really so I whine over everything I guess...I just don't know anyone who dtd every other day and got a boy. But you say you do so that's good. hmmm maybe I start as soon I see ewcm?
Also I did not think 2 day is enough to get the sperm count back up I learned on IG that 4 day is best. But I didn't get my boy from IG so I guess I better forget that!
And how come it's almost Sept.? It was just April omg I thought I have so much time left!

I think the 4 day thing is not really true....it's like 2-4 days but I have read a lot about sperm left in the balls too long starts to deteriorate because it's exposed to environmental toxins. I asked my doc about the 4 day thing and she said she wouldn't recommend it for me because it is like the one time shot and she doens't think that is a good way to get pg if you are on a time frame. I've even read that daily ejaculation is best! I don't think they really know, but I do remember that thread....I know Zanacal got her boys that way, and so did a lot of people. Let me see if I can find it.....anyway, I really think timing doesn't matter. In fact, I don't think timing, ph, or minerals really matter. I think a lot of the stuff on IG has been proven to be wrong or not work.

[Flava]

Oh where do you guy buy the hummus? Went to store today but could not find any!

[Flava]

"In fact, I don't think timing, ph, or minerals really matter. I think a lot of the stuff on IG has been proven to be wrong or not work. "
You are so right Lola ! I did all that and where is my boy?? Maybe my diet was not so good but it was the damn IG diet!
They must know already that things are proved wrong but they try to keep it up anyway. It's like stick the head in the sand...

I remember the guru said if you did not do at least 5 of the self made up 7 factor then you did not really swayed it's more luck. Well you know what I think she is the one who got lucky and not the others!

[Hobbermittens]

Oh where do you guy buy the hummus? Went to store today but could not find any!

At my grocery store, it is in the deli case with the fancy imported cheese and stuff.

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- thanks, I'm sure hoping it's a boy but really trying not to get my hopes up.

Lola- I agree, great bunch of munchkins we have here! Me too on the peeing, the holding it after the deed is always painful lol

Tink- yep add in those potatoes and add more fruit and nuts to stop that weight loss. Congrats for it but its time to put your body into feast mode!
As far as ttc or waiting till Oct keep this in mind, it may take you a few months or it may not, if you decide to go for it in Sept be prepared it just may work!
I'll have my big us between 18 and 20 wks so 3-5 weeks from now! Assuming dh still wants to find out that is lol

[zanacal]

I think the 4 day thing is not really true....it's like 2-4 days but I have read a lot about sperm left in the balls too long starts to deteriorate because it's exposed to environmental toxins. I asked my doc about the 4 day thing and she said she wouldn't recommend it for me because it is like the one time shot and she doens't think that is a good way to get pg if you are on a time frame. I've even read that daily ejaculation is best! I don't think they really know, but I do remember that thread....I know Zanacal got her boys that way, and so did a lot of people. Let me see if I can find it.....anyway, I really think timing doesn't matter. In fact, I don't think timing, ph, or minerals really matter. I think a lot of the stuff on IG has been proven to be wrong or not work.

Ooh, how strange that I would read this thread tonight! Yep, we DTD every other day every time we wanted to get pregnant. I knew I ovulated somewhere around day 14 but I never used an OPK. We just DTD every other day starting on day 10 until I felt I'd ovulated. If we didn't catch that month we switched to every other day starting on day 9 the next month so we had every day covered every 2 months :D Quite a stress free way of doing it I feel and I wouldn't dream of DTD every other day to sway pink - I say go for it!

[3Pink1Blue]

Zanacal- fwiw we dtd every other day from day 10 to 20 and I've got 3 girls. I honestly think the lube we used (ky) played a much bigger factor then the frequency.

[WashingtonPromise]

When we conceived our boys we were BDing every or every other day. We normally do, though. I would say that the amount and quality of DHs sperm depends a lot on how often you should BD.....just my opinion though.

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[begonia]

As far as ttc or waiting till Oct keep this in mind, it may take you a few months or it may not, if you decide to go for it in Sept be prepared it just may work!

For sure this ... we did NOT think we'd get pg in June, we were just trying for the fun of it ... HA. Then I couldn't drink on my fun girls weekend in July. So definitely, if you want to enjoy the wedding, WAIT. It's just one month.

I really wish I knew about my DDs and the BD timing. But since we weren't really trying either time ... I just don't know! I'll know for sure the timing on this one though, LOL!

Jen I am right there with you on the poor food choices ... although calling it a "choice" doesn't seem fair, KWIM? I would PREFER to eat something besides gross mass produced processed junk, but for whatever reason my body "needs" that stuff right now, LOL. I had that one good day but the past 2 days has been junky again.

[3Pink1Blue]

Seriously B! I haven't made a choice in 9 weeks, I would so love to be eating whole healthy foods but here I sit stuffing fries in my face lol

[TTC5]

How is this for a kick in the face, got asked yesterday at work if I am due soon.... :S GAHHHHH I am SO FAT :'(

[CapricornAquarius]

Wow, this is interesting was just reading through some of the posts and was excited to read that some of you Flava & Llove think timing, ph & minerals aren't important, I really really hope this is true cause Im such a lazy swayer.

Ive got the whole timing down right, but not taking all the boy supplements and not so good with the boy diet mmmm.

When conceiving my 2girls we dtd everyday or atleast every 2nd day and you Zancal did that also and you got boys, very contradicting isnt it???

But then Im just sooooo scared to go for it incase boy swaying is true :hair:

Tested my vag ph and if ph has anything to do with it, mine is shocking its 5.5 grrr :mad:

Please help me someone I need some encouraging words at the moment.

[CapricornAquarius]

How is this for a kick in the face, got asked yesterday at work if I am due soon.... :S GAHHHHH I am SO FAT :'(

Awww hugs and kisses to you :kissy:

How far pregnant are you TTC5?

TTC5 did you do any of the boy sway things??

Goodluck and I hope there is a blue bundle :ttcboy: cooking in there.

[WashingtonPromise]

How is this for a kick in the face, got asked yesterday at work if I am due soon.... :S GAHHHHH I am SO FAT :'(

I am sorry. My FIL did that to his sister years ago, of course she wasn't pregnant....she was going threw menopause. I hope you had a "nice" remark for him/her. "Actually, I am working out and lost a few pounds....thank you" :mad:

Your working out and getting fit....more than most of us are doing. Before long you will be TTCing again and will me a fitter lady.

:bowdown: To all the ladies that go to the gym.

[skrimpy]

Begonia - I'm really glad to know that my LO isn't the only one to nurse like that. She's growing really well so I'm not worried about her, but her eating style is pretty new to me. I haven't called my mw yet b/c I figured she'd probably tell me to just keep an eye on it and start temping if I'm concerned. I think I'm just going to wait it out and see what happens in a few weeks...

How exciting for your DD to be starting kindy! I bet you've enjoyed the school shopping with her. Hope all goes well for her next week :) So glad you're able to eat more too :D

Cemas - have you tried upping your fat intake somewhat to see if that will help bring about an earlier O? I sound like a broken record on this thing, but I have noticed that a lot of women who are having irregular/really long cycles are helped by getting in good fats (like coconut oil, full-fat dairy, etc.)

WP - I think cutting out the breads and doing a little cardio is fine! Just be sure you're getting adequate protein b/c you need tons while pg. You can also go with fruits and veggies to get your carbs rather than grains, which helps some ladies with weight. I know how disheartening it is to see the pounds come on, esp when it's never been a problem before - that's where I'm at right now. We're not actively swaying so I'm hoping to lose before we do. You could think about doing some weights/bodyweight stuff with your routine to help sway blue.

Just an FYI - situps can make waistline problems worse, because they can increase a diastasis recti, which is a gap between the "six-pack" muscles that's frequently caused by (and made worse by) pregnancies. I have a blog entry about it written here: http://blog.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/closing-the-gap/ IMO it's best not to do situps, and to find other exercises to strengthen the core. "Tuplers" can help close a diastasis and give you a flat belly.

Im4blue - welcome to the group. I'm so sorry for the loss of your little son - sending thoughts and prayers for you to conceive quickly with a sweet little brother for your angel.

Capricorn - FX for you!

Alexis - there are so many gals in the thread, I forget, what supps/diet are you doing to help with getting EWCM back? What did you take in May when you had it?

Princess of Pink - ITA!!! Waiting to TTC is very tough, esp when you keep reading all the different theories and try to balance supps, etc! Plus there is a little stress b/c you don't want an "oops" while you're not swaying. I am already temping, too, even though we won't attempt for a looong time. I have thought about doing OPK's or a fertility monitor some, too. So you're not the only one!

manainny - welcome and good luck with your sway :D IMO you should start supps and especially diet now. You don't need to wait til you're done with the pill. Just know that cycles can sometimes be off a little the first couple months after stopping the pill (but lots of ladies have regular cycles right away)

Lola - oh your poor little DD2 - I hope her day got better and a little less nerve-wracking for her. Hope this year is a blast for your ladies! ITA w/ Begonia that a lot of the supps just increase health and thus fertility in general, so I would stick with those you feel comfortable with. Keeping FX that you get your BFP very soon :)

daisy - FX for you to get your bfp quickly. For your skin, have you considered cutting out the wheat/breads/pasta? That has helped a lot of ppl clear up skin issues. Eat potatoes, fruits, and high-carb veggies to get your carbs for blue swaying. Potatoes have tons of potassium, too :)

Tink - that is awesome that your DH is so on board, it's great when our men are supportive :p You are getting really close - I hope you get your blue BFP right away ;) IMO it's important for both the man and the woman to eat hearty - the studies *definitely* show a correlation between gender and maternal influence. We also eat a pretty paleo diet here - right now really so as I'm hoping to lose this baby weight. I will add in more potatoes and stuff when it's time to sway, though (and I'm still drinking milk). I think it's a good boy diet :)

3PNB - girl I love you lol! You relate all this family drama and you sound so confident with yourself and your fam, I love that. I know that it can be really hard to deal with family, so I applaud you for just knowing what is right for you, DH, and your kids. I sincerely hope that your BIL and his gf can get their act together for their DC1 and the baby on the way. Our kids do great with their schoolwork, are well-mannered, and polite too - so I also ignore anyone who says that we are "too strict" or whatever. I think it's hilarious that ppl will say how great they are and how HAPPY they are, then turn around and say "aren't you being too strict?!" The reason we have happy, polite children is b/c they feel comfortable with boundaries! They have a lot of fun b/c we can take them places and give them experiences that we couldn't if they didn't know how to act. Ppl just don't get that.

b3blue - I hope you're able to get pg and have your little bean hang in there this time around. Can you explain more about what the protein s deficieny is?

Flava - smiley on the monitor means BD time right? It's interesting that you're getting your peak high reading and smiley the same day. If you are comfortable waiting to try I would def watch to see what it does in Sept. Even if it's different that what it does for most women, if it's a consistent thing for you, you can learn your signals and stuff to plan out timing.

TTC5 - (((hugs))) for you hun. Have you looked into the primal/paleo diet while you're taking a break from TTC? I think it has a very boy-friendly base and lots of ppl lose tons on it. When time to TTC again you can easily add carbs back in while keeping the same blue-happy protein/fats :) That's essentially what I'm doing now.

AFM - Well the bleeding has stopped but I had spotting for a couple of days after the heavier stuff. That is NOT normal for a period for me, so I am thinking maybe TTC5 is right and perhaps it was just retained stuff/postpartum... I hope so but I am still charting right now. CM has been high and dry since the bleeding stopped so we will see. I am seriously keeping FX and praying that AF is not returning already.

Honor is still sooooo fussy but I love her so much lol! She just smiles and coos when she's not fussing and it melts my heart. I know why babies are so cute!

We are in the process of totally repainting our house... previous owners put in this horrible textured paint and painted the window frames, switchplates, and outlet covers in this pukey green color (what were they thinking??) I've just ignored it for the past 3 years but now that we want to put the house on the market it's time to go, lol! I am hoping we find a bigger place and get moved by next summer... after that move I will feel much more ready to TTC :) I'm pretty excited to be looking for a new house though!

[Im4blue]

Hello my beautiful friends!!!! I am very sorry for being MIA for the past 2 days. Its been a crazy past couple of days at work.

CA........I feel your pain sweetie. I have the same problem!! The highest I have ever managed to get my PH on this diet was 6.0. I was at my wits end (still am). I wish I had answers for the BOTH of us! Let me know what you come up with. If I get anymore suggestions, I will pass them on to you. =)

TTC5..........I am sorry that person made you feel bad. =( I would have responded with " I can fix FAT but you can't fix UGLY!". Ugh.........why do people have to be so opinionated and mean. Be like Teflon baby, and let it ROLL OFF!!!

Skrimpy...........Thank you for the mighty fine welcome! =) I'm about to embark on TTC cycle #21. Gosh though.............everyday I am just soooo blessed that I was chosen to be Kyles mom. =)

So what are everyones plans for the weekend??

Do any of you use any websites to keep track of your sodium and potassium intake??? Also.....Does Femara sway Pink or Blue???

[Foxy]

TTC5 - I've got that comment a couple of times! Idiots!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- sorry hun, guess that motivated you to work extra hard that day :(

CA- don't worry about pH, I did literally everything I could to change mine and 5.5-6 was the best I could ever do. I'm hoping to give you ladies pH faith by having conceived a boy (fx) with a pH of 5.5 and a one time bsf.

Skrimpy- thanks hun, it cracks me up because on one hand people admire and are amazed that I do everything with 3 kids in tow but them give me crap that I'm no fun. Well folks you can't be one of the kids and keep control and personally I'd rather be able to have stress free family outings then be able to act like a 6yo. Good to know I'm not the only one cause in Utah it's perfectly ok to have obnoxious, out of control kids while moms shake their heads giggle and drink their Diet Coke.
I love painting, it almost like getting a new house!

Im4blue- I stopped tracking when I left ig, no boy moms do this so screw it lol

So this is dumb but all the sudden dd1 doesn't want to fnd out the gender. She was only 2 1/2 when we found out w/dd2 but even before we knew she would only look a pink things, she was dying to know w/dd3 (she was 5) and again proudly told us before the us it was a girl. Earlier in this preg she wanted to know and was saying she wanted another sister so now that she doesnt want to know I've been pushing to find out why. She is afraid/sure the baby is a BOY! Now I'm really trying not to read too much into ths but it's really hard. I know it's dumb but I'm hoping this time its the kids who get the gd not mommy and daddy lol

[Flava]

Flava - smiley on the monitor means BD time right? It's interesting that you're getting your peak high reading and smiley the same day. If you are comfortable waiting to try I would def watch to see what it does in Sept. Even if it's different that what it does for most women, if it's a consistent thing for you, you can learn your signals and stuff to plan out timing.

Why is this interesting? I thought everyone get it this way.:worry: At least I do back when I was ttc #4 was the same. Only I got 3 smiley opk and not 1!:mad:
hmmm maybe Im older and not that fertile anymore that's why I got less + opk??

And no I don't want to wait any longer Im waiting since April and spend so much money on this already.DH is not happy...I just think Im not doing timing and that's it.

[Flava]

capricorn- Just try to do the diet best you can and if you worry about pH do BSF. My pH go up to 6.4 and this month was 7.0 but I still do BSF at least once even if pH don't matter much.

[Flava]

3pink-I hope it's your boy!!!Can't wait to see new pics!

[zanacal]

Zanacal- fwiw we dtd every other day from day 10 to 20 and I've got 3 girls. I honestly think the lube we used (ky) played a much bigger factor then the frequency.

Hi 3Pink! Yes, it's obviously not the only factor but I think that some are scared of DTD that often for blue (every other day and not every day) but I've read that it's plenty of time for those sperm to recharge (or whatever they do!!). I hope your bump's doing well :D

Skrimpy - I just wanted to say that all my boys were guzzlers! They all fed very efficiently from the beginning, taking a full feed in 15-20 minutes and that quickly reduced to 10 minutes or so at a time. They were all exclusively breastfed but I got my period back at 13 weeks with DS1 and 9 weeks with DS2! I had a Mirena fitted with DS3 so I think that kept AF away with him.

[WashingtonPromise]

So this is dumb but all the sudden dd1 doesn't want to fnd out the gender. She was only 2 1/2 when we found out w/dd2 but even before we knew she would only look a pink things, she was dying to know w/dd3 (she was 5) and again proudly told us before the us it was a girl. Earlier in this preg she wanted to know and was saying she wanted another sister so now that she doesnt want to know I've been pushing to find out why. She is afraid/sure the baby is a BOY! Now I'm really trying not to read too much into ths but it's really hard. I know it's dumb but I'm hoping this time its the kids who get the gd not mommy and daddy lol

Isn't that funny. Maybe she has some type of sense about your babies gender. My oldest (10 at the time) didn't want to know the gender of the baby last time, but after everyone else knew she wanted to too. I agree, I hate for anyone to have GD, but if it has to be someone.......might as well be the kids :) Besides you already gave her some sisters.

[skrimpy]

Why is this interesting? I thought everyone get it this way.:worry: At least I do back when I was ttc #4 was the same. Only I got 3 smiley opk and not 1!:mad:
hmmm maybe Im older and not that fertile anymore that's why I got less + opk??

And no I don't want to wait any longer Im waiting since April and spend so much money on this already.DH is not happy...I just think Im not doing timing and that's it.

Oh Flava all these monitors get mixed up in my head - I was thinking it gives you a high reading for a couple of days before the smiley but it only goes from open to the smiley. So just ignore what I said, lol. What are you using to decide if you're going to test or not?

[Tink18]

TTC, Im sorry someone made such a nasty comment to you. I would look into the Paleo. I'm not to familar with the Primal, but it must be in the same lines as the paleo. I have lost a total of 12 lbs and really fast. And It really falls in line with the boy diet. I think 3pn will agree. If go back to a few posts. She told me to just add in poatoates and milk and I will be good. DH is eating pretty hearty these days as well. I have been stuffing him full of steak, tri tips and all kinds. He need to up his fruit i think. But so far so good. I think we will wait till OCt! Thanks ladies!! XOXO

[skrimpy]

Tink paleo/primal are essentially the same thing :)

My plan is to add potatoes and probably some oatmeal when we start TTC (I still do milk now) to get a higher carb level. I'm hoping to lose some weight right now!

[Foxy]

So this is dumb but all the sudden dd1 doesn't want to fnd out the gender. She was only 2 1/2 when we found out w/dd2 but even before we knew she would only look a pink things, she was dying to know w/dd3 (she was 5) and again proudly told us before the us it was a girl. Earlier in this preg she wanted to know and was saying she wanted another sister so now that she doesnt want to know I've been pushing to find out why. She is afraid/sure the baby is a BOY! Now I'm really trying not to read too much into ths but it's really hard. I know it's dumb but I'm hoping this time its the kids who get the gd not mommy and daddy lol

Aww, bless her. Maybe she is on to something! FX!!

[TTC5]

Awww hugs and kisses to you :kissy:

How far pregnant are you TTC5?

TTC5 did you do any of the boy sway things??

Goodluck and I hope there is a blue bundle :ttcboy: cooking in there.

No I am not pregnant that is the thing, I swayed for a few months and gained too much weight so now having a break to lose some.

[CapricornAquarius]

No I am not pregnant that is the thing, I swayed for a few months and gained too much weight so now having a break to lose some.

Oh Ok, that is harsh then, Im sorry. Ive actually said that to a lady once before and believe me I think I felt worse then what she did.

All the best with losing the weight.

I personally dont believe that gaining weight sways boys, Ive got a number of friends who are thin and they have boys.

As long as you have a healthy BMI which should be from memory between 19 & 25. Google BMI calculator. If you are under 19 need to put on weight and if you are over 25 you need to lose weight.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

[3Pink1Blue]

Wp- see that's how I feel, I gave her 2 adorable sisters now it's baby brother time lol

Tink - skrimpy's right primal and paleo are very similar, stick to what you know and I think you're good :)

Foxy- I sure hope so!

CA- it's not as much about he weight gain as telling your body it's feast time, some of us just pack on easily. I personally went for doing everything different, last 3 I lost weight this one I gained.

[Flava]

Oh Flava all these monitors get mixed up in my head - I was thinking it gives you a high reading for a couple of days before the smiley but it only goes from open to the smiley. So just ignore what I said, lol. What are you using to decide if you're going to test or not?

Im using 2 things! The CBEFM and the smiley tester! So I keep on using this next month.

[Flava]

3pink -maybe she know it's a boy!
My DD2 told me once when I was pregnant , but she didn't know I was -mommy you got a baby in your tummy and it's a boy.
I was like wow...but lost that baby:tissue::sad:

[Hobbermittens]

So this is dumb but all the sudden dd1 doesn't want to fnd out the gender. She was only 2 1/2 when we found out w/dd2 but even before we knew she would only look a pink things, she was dying to know w/dd3 (she was 5) and again proudly told us before the us it was a girl. Earlier in this preg she wanted to know and was saying she wanted another sister so now that she doesnt want to know I've been pushing to find out why. She is afraid/sure the baby is a BOY! Now I'm really trying not to read too much into ths but it's really hard. I know it's dumb but I'm hoping this time its the kids who get the gd not mommy and daddy lol

I bet it is a boy and she KNOWS! My DD1 was right about my second and third kids. I think some kids just have a sixth sense about that stuff!!

[Hobbermittens]

3pink -maybe she know it's a boy!
My DD2 told me once when I was pregnant , but she didn't know I was -mommy you got a baby in your tummy and it's a boy.
I was like wow...but lost that baby:tissue::sad:

:( sorry Flava. :(

[Hobbermittens]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:

[Tink18]

Ohh is oatmeal good for the boy sway? I just started eating it today. Fucking hated it but I need the fiber. As soon as I Drink All my Fat free Milk I will get 2 percent again which is what usually drink. Add my potatoes. If were waiting till Oct I have a good 10 weeks to really get me and DH on this diet good and hard.

[Tink18]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:


My Dh has been pretty good. He is really eating well. Although when I try to have him take any supps. he looks at me like im nuts. He says he is down to ice the goodies, drink a red bull and do all that...so I cant complain. Although, he is still smoking. Which I told his he has 2 weeks. He doesn't drink much. he is really excited to get this going. He really wants to tr next week when It's O time, but I am out of town at my cousins Bach Party! THANK GOD its almost over. I'm going to let lose and get loaded! what's one weekend! ehhh...our sway isnt till Oct now...soo can it hurt?? Honestly??

[Kris217]

How is this for a kick in the face, got asked yesterday at work if I am due soon.... :S GAHHHHH I am SO FAT :'(

Girl you're not even fat, no where near it!

[Flava]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:

DH is doing good but I told him to lose some weight and that's what he can't do...and now he is angry about all the money spend on this.So I really hope we get a bfp next month!

[Flava]

Tink- you need full fat milk not 2%. And sups are very important for DH even more then for us.Some ice and red bull is nothing next to it. Try to tell him he must take it.

[WashingtonPromise]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:

I'm sorry, Hobber. DHs haven't read up on all the things we have, so they don't understand the importance of the things we ask them to do.

:hugs:

[LolaInLove]

How is this for a kick in the face, got asked yesterday at work if I am due soon.... :S GAHHHHH I am SO FAT :'(

I have been asked that many a times this year....I know how you feel, K! Just keep working out, aren't you doing well with that?

[LolaInLove]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:

Try not to get too mad at him.....I think every DH comes from a different place....mine is afraid the reason we can't make a baby is HIM, so he will do whatever. But, I also threatened to not continue to ttc if he was smoking or not taking his vitamins (which was also the advice of the doc after our last m/c counseling). Hobbs, your DH may think you already made one of each, so maybe he doesn't believe in it....IDK, but I think you can still have a great sway without him....just feed him lots of protein and hearty food and see if he'll at least take a multivitamin or something?

[LolaInLove]

Zanacal, thanks for posting, that is so funny that you read that post of mine about your bding! I will say this again, and I know Atomic would back me up on this....timing doesn't matter. If you want to be further convinced, go on FF and search for charts with criteria "pregnant with boy" and see how many of those had a one time shot with a 4 day cutoff. Barely any. Most of them are ttc every other day or every day. Some twice a day.

[LolaInLove]

I have SO many errands to run today, and just catching up from a busy week at work, but I just wanted to post a few things and say HI and LOVESSSS to everyone!

I'm CD8 today, and the bding every other day is about to commence. Trying to stay positive. Am going to pick up some ICs today, thanks for the reminder about those, Flava. And I lifted weights the other day, and now my biceps are so sore that I feel like a T-Rex with little curled up sore arms. Oh well. I am going to the gym in a minute to start the errands. TTYL!!!

[Flava]

lol Lola I feel like a T rex too only not with little arms Im just that big:rofl:
I checked out FF too but if you search pregnant with a girl they also did a lot of BD.
Anyway I do at least 2 or more next month just because I never did it before and let's see if I get a boy like that. Well a bfp first of all lol.

[b3blue]

Tink- thanks hun, the party was so much fun! Perfect your paleo sway and stick to whole eggs and full fat dairy. You'll keep your weigh gain under control by watching how much nuts and fruits you intake. Dairy is a moderation thing so no need to avoid it just keep it to a couple times a week. Remeber high fat, high protein, high nutrient for your sway. DH has been paleo for nearly a year now and the rest of us (yes the kids too) converted 5/6 months back. I was paleo + potatoes when I conceived and I honestly think it's great lifestyle and a good route to a boy, guess we'll find out in a few weeks!

Wp- yeah dh's family really values the sons, it's all about the family name. The you need to have a boy thing started when dd1 was 30 days old, she's 9 1/2 now. It's gotten real damn old.

B- LOVE the early morning cuddles, dd3 slept with me last night so we could snuggle all night! I can't believe she's 4 :(

Flava- are you taking fish oil, it did more for my cm then anything else! Ooh yes try hummus, so good! I could eat my weight in hummus and pita chips lol
Here's hoping you're right about the junk food= boy, I've been living off French fries, chicken nuggets and Totino's pizzas lol

Lola- don't lose hope hun, I know it's devastating to get month after month of bfn. I know your journey as been so long but you have to have faith that you will get there. And ita not preventing IS trying, if you know there's a chance you'll still obsess.

B3blue- we love Fancy Nancy! dd2 had a Fancy Nancy party when she turned 4, it was so frilly and fun!

Alexis- bsf will turn your cm watery without washing it all away.

Yesterday was dd3's actual birthday so we spent the day doing at the zoo. It's her favorite place in the world so into the 90+ degree heat we went. The older two were at school so she got the royal treatment, I bought her cotton candy, she rode the carrousel and the train. In our house you get whatever you want for your birthday dinner and my silly bunny wanted homemade soup lol Before she went to bed she told me it was the best birthday ever! I love making their birthdays extra special but man am I tired today. In fact I think it's time for a nap lol

Glad the party went well and your dd had a great bday! We picked up pinkilicious at the library and it looks super cute. Reading it at bedtime tonight :)

[b3blue]

Hey, are all your DH's cooperating with the swaying stuff? My DH is taking his supps, but that is about all. He won't stop drinking his beer, or smoking, or anything. I am so annoyed!:hair:

Mine was ok for about a week. He hadn't touched the supps since! I'm going be zen for awhile since we have time and really get on him about it next month as he's iffy on ttc altogether and I don't want to rock the boat.
Diet is easy for us as we all eat the same thing.


We may have found renters for our house which is the best news ever on the ttc front! That mortgage stinks and having that financial pressure off for awhile will be splendid.

[skrimpy]

Ohh is oatmeal good for the boy sway? I just started eating it today. Fucking hated it but I need the fiber. As soon as I Drink All my Fat free Milk I will get 2 percent again which is what usually drink. Add my potatoes. If were waiting till Oct I have a good 10 weeks to really get me and DH on this diet good and hard.

Tink I think oatmeal is very good b/c it provides a good amount of carbs and can be loaded with butter and cream to give good fats. It can help get that slightly elevated but stable blood sugar that sways blue.

[CapricornAquarius]

Wp- see that's how I feel, I gave her 2 adorable sisters now it's baby brother time lol

Tink - skrimpy's right primal and paleo are very similar, stick to what you know and I think you're good :)

Foxy- I sure hope so!

CA- it's not as much about he weight gain as telling your body it's feast time, some of us just pack on easily. I personally went for doing everything different, last 3 I lost weight this one I gained.

Yeah I get you, Im also doing the opposite to what I did with my 2 daughters, well the only thing Im going to do differently is dtd on O & take some of the supps & Im also going to do it on my lunar months & :pray: I fall :pregnant: with a :bluesperm:

This month is our first month of ttc, Im currently 13dpo I got some brown spotting yesterday & today, massive headache, I'll test if my period doesn't come, but Im thinking I'll be a bfn, just dont have the feeling.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

[CapricornAquarius]

Tink- you need full fat milk not 2%. And sups are very important for DH even more then for us.Some ice and red bull is nothing next to it. Try to tell him he must take it.

OMG are you serious??

My husband is only taking a multivitamin and even that he misses most days, my hubby believes in the "you get what you get given & be greatful" way of thinking grrrrr :mad:

And to top it off he's even started smoking again 3months ago after successfully quitting for 5yrs, GREAT!! Fat chance Ive got.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

[Flava]

capricorn-I hope you got a bfp!!! 13 dpo you can test! (plz lol) I don't even have 13 dpo because I get af or spotting and next day af at 11-12 days after O.max 13 ! Don't know why it use to be different...well at least no 2 ww for me lol more like 10 day wait.

[Flava]

OMG are you serious??

My husband is only taking a multivitamin and even that he misses most days, my hubby believes in the "you get what you get given & be greatful" way of thinking grrrrr :mad:

And to top it off he's even started smoking again 3months ago after successfully quitting for 5yrs, GREAT!! Fat chance Ive got.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

Oh yeah sups are most important for DH because it helps with sperm count and repair sperm ect. Atomic said it can be even more important then the diet for them. But for us diet is most imp.
But don't worry the multiv. is really good for him!

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- sorry to hear that, dd1 said dd3 was a boy till I was about 8wks in then changed to a girl and yep a girl. I think the losses when you only have one gender are the worst. I will always wonder if my two were our boys.

Hobbermittens- I was really lucky with dh, he did everything I asked. He took all the sups, ate whatever I told him to, stopped drinking coffee and didn't drink any beer af-o. I think he was secretly afraid of me blaming him if it was another girl. Explain exactly why you want him to do these things, overload him with the science and let him know you don't want to leave it 100% to chance.

Tink- ita with flava, do the whole milk and convince him on the supps. Healthy boys start with healthy sperm and smoking is so rough on the little swimmers. The ice and red bull will help but it's about increasing overall health and numbers.

B3blue- how'd you like the book? Woohoo for finding a renter, such a relief I'm sure!

CA- if you lived the textbook girl sway I think opposite is your best chance. Fx for a bfp! Suck dh started smoking again but the multivitamin will definitely help.

[Im4blue]

Hey Girls!!! How is everyone doing??? I am 14dpo and have been spotting yesterday and today. It has picked up today. I am sure AF will be here either by the end of the day or 1st thing in the morning.

Do any of you have a boy sway book suggestions??? I am having a hard time finding one.

My new plan for the month: 1st month of Femara!!!!!! I am also adding a low dose of Prednisone. They say that abx sway boy. I was on Amoxi this past cycle for my sinus infection. I've read that it takes 6 weeks for it to leave your system. Is this true???

[Flava]

Hey Girls!!! How is everyone doing??? I am 14dpo and have been spotting yesterday and today. It has picked up today. I am sure AF will be here either by the end of the day or 1st thing in the morning.

Do any of you have a boy sway book suggestions??? I am having a hard time finding one.

My new plan for the month: 1st month of Femara!!!!!! I am also adding a low dose of Prednisone. They say that abx sway boy. I was on Amoxi this past cycle for my sinus infection. I've read that it takes 6 weeks for it to leave your system. Is this true???

sorry for AF...I have no clue about femara or prednisone and amoxi so can't help sorry.
Hope someone else will!

Got so quiet here ...

[TTC5]

Hi girls!!

FX for those in the TWW!!

I am down 3 kilos, slowely peeling off the gain lol DH was sad when I started on the pill LOL But it is better to be safe than have a woops lol

[WashingtonPromise]

Im4blue: Sorry, I have no idea about antibiotics, either. I think on here somewhere, someone does talk about them. I know....that was no help. I am just not willing to use them to sway, but we don't take any meds unless it is unavoidable. Did AF show up?

After BDing last night hubby brought my snack up to bed since I was not mobile. We were eating hard boiled eggs when he said, "Do your friends on the internet use these to get preg. with a boy?" I just chuckled and said, "Not hard boiled, but yeah." He spit half his egg out and just started laughing. It was too funny!!!

I am on CD 13 and getting EWCM....hopefully I will be in the 2WW soon :)

[Alexis2007]

Ladies I'm 7dpo and not really feeling it :( I was hoping to feel some symptoms so I'd know one way or another. I just hate not knowing and waiting!!

[Flava]

Ok where is everyone??? If it going like this no one will be around next month to tell me to try and I end up not too...Im jsut to scared.
WP-good luck!!! Hope this is your month!

[Flava]

Ladies I'm 7dpo and not really feeling it :( I was hoping to feel some symptoms so I'd know one way or another. I just hate not knowing and waiting!!

Oh don't worry about feeling thing! Having symptoms is the same like not having any. You can be pregnant both way .Or not.Remember how many girls here thought they are pregnant for sure because all this symptoms they had and the got a bfn.
I never care about it because they can trick you. You can be pregnant don't worry!:fx:

[LolaInLove]

Hey! I have been SO busy at work lately, and weekends packed also.

4Blue....I had no idea you had those issues....I was tested for the clotting disorders also due to my losses but thankfully am clear. Do they have you on any drugs for that? And baby aspirin? I wouldn't take the abx unless you absolutely have to as well, but maybe they are for your clotting? And glad to hear you are starting Femara, from what I understand it is similar to Clomid. Good luck!!!

WP, LOL about your hub spitting out the eggs, that is too funny! Sounds like it's bd time for you, sister. FX!

Alexis, you are not allowed to feel out until you bleed, ok? I didn't have symptoms except the creamy yellow cm with either of mine recently. And lots of ladies don't, so just try to relax. When are you testing?

TTC5, nice job on the weight loss! I'll be excited when you start ttc again!

Flava, no worries, we are all here to cheer you on. You've got nothing to be afraid of, just give it your best shot!!!

And to everyone about the DH's: I do agree that it is better if he is on board with supps and a healthy diet also (at least a high-protein and high-fat diet, I think), but if he's not, don't think it's the end of you getting a boy. LOTS of boys are conceived by men who smoke and eat terribly and don't take a single vitamin. You could do the SNEAKY little things like maybe squash up a fish oil capsule and mix it in his salad dressing or even find a liquid multivitamin and put it in a fruit juice or smoothie.....I don't know, just some suggestions. Even if you just get him to take a multi based on it A) being healthier for him in general and B) making a healthy baby of either gender, I think most men will go along with that at the least. About the smoking: I got my DH to quit, but like I said, not without some threatening. For you guys, I think it may boil down to just a frank talk about how it's REALLLLLY BAD for sperm in general. I found some articles that I showed my DH (and he was freaked out) about how the sperm of smokers can be MUTATED and although can make a baby, can make ones that have dead gonad cells and the like. Meaning your DH's smoking can cause your child to be infertile. Anyway, of course know that not every smoker has this, but it's a better safe than sorry kind of thing. Maybe this will help convince them to stop....at least while you are ttc.

As for me, I am CD10 and already bding every other day. I am pretty chilled out about it. Hoping we get some bfps this month!

[iluvmyman]

Hi laides. Sorry I've been gone. I've got a lot of things I'm studying and reading lately in my spare time (ha!) and then I'm tired pretty early but I think about everyone often. There is no way I can catch up w/ all the posts but welcome to some new members.

Any BFP's in the last 2 weeks. Lola, I'm soooooo bummed no BFP last cycle GL to you on this cycle. I'm sure DH isn't complaining too much about the every other day. :)

Hi Begonia!!!

I got to have 1 more in office U/S last week and heard the heartbeat on Friday. That will be it until my 12 week NT U/S in 4 weeks on Sept. 20th. I realized I'm due right around when I possibly conceived DS2, so that's kind of neat and a week or so after my brother's b-day (he died) so it's kinda neat for me. The in-office U/S put my due date at March 31st which is at least several days after my O date and certainly FDOL Menstrual. Oh well, I'm sticking w/ my ticker for now.

4blue, I'm soooo sorry to hear about the loss of your son at 2 months of SIDS. I don't even know what to say about that but my heart breaks. I sure hope you get pregnant right away and no more m/c. :(

[LolaInLove]

Hey Iluv! WOWZA, 9 weeks already! Can't wait to hear how your u/s goes on Friday. Have you started teaching your kiddos yet? I am sure you guys are busy!

Thanks for the well wishes....yea, DH is not at all bummed about the every other day bding, LOL. I am hoping it works this cycle too, I am getting SUPER ANCY. But trying to remain calm. Unfortunately, I only feel like I can sway for another month after this try, and then I need to just eat normal, work out and be normal me, and just dtd when I get a +opk and use some preseed and that's about it.

[Flava]

Go on the BD Lola!! Hope this is it for you!

[iluvmyman]

Hey Iluv! WOWZA, 9 weeks already! Can't wait to hear how your u/s goes on Friday. Have you started teaching your kiddos yet? I am sure you guys are busy!

Thanks for the well wishes....yea, DH is not at all bummed about the every other day bding, LOL. I am hoping it works this cycle too, I am getting SUPER ANCY. But trying to remain calm. Unfortunately, I only feel like I can sway for another month after this try, and then I need to just eat normal, work out and be normal me, and just dtd when I get a +opk and use some preseed and that's about it.

Sorry Lola, I had my last in-office U/S last Friday and heard the heart beat. Next one not till Sept. 20th for the NT U/S then the "normal" U/S around 18 weeks. My dr. appts should be monthly now for a while.

Homeschool started last week but really not till this week since I am doing something very different for DD2 this year for her writing & spelling. It's brain integration therapy, right-brained teaching. Really neat but harder then I thought and I got a little discouraged last week. And we still were doing some summer outings last week. This week I've started working M,W, F w/ only 2 of their kids and till 2:45 instead of M, T till 5:00. their 2 oldest are in school as of today. I need to still figure out how DD's schooling is fitting into this new schedule. Oh well, yes busy, busy, busy. We get to go to our friends lake house and hit the boat so it s/b a great weekend.
If you don't get a BFP during that time frame will you still stay on the clomid but stop everything else?

[Tink18]

So try this on for size. DH and I were getting down on the 19th. Since on not on a BC we have been using condoms until our attempt. This Asshole, decided to just go for it and he, well you know didn't pull out. I was so Fucking pissed. No warning at all. He said he just wanted to go for it. He doesn't care if it's a girl or a boy. OMG. I could kill him. The only thing that makes me feel good right now is, A. LMP was one the 12th, so I am due to ovulate this Thursday. SO I think i have may escaped his getting me pregnant...But you know never know. He could have slipped one by. and as we all learned back in 6th grade all unprotected sex leads to pregnancy. Oh man. Plus the wedding in 2 months. Oh well...whatever happens happens! right...It's gods way! SO what do you ladies think my chances are of actually getting pregnant 8 days after LMP?

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- I agree, this thread used to fly and now we're crawling!

Alexis- ita w/Flava about feeling nothing. Both Babydes and I were sure af was coming, no symptoms at all! In fact i didn't have any symptoms till I was 6wks. Like Lola said don't give up hope, it's not over till the red b*itch arrives!

Lola- love your attitude! I think being busy is good, gives you less time to over-analyze and obsess. Fx this is your month but if not think long and hard before you drop the diet. You want to know you got another girl by chance not because you got impatient and gave up. Believe that's a regret that'll stick with you after all you've done.

Iluv- yay for u/s peekings and little heartbeats! Love the positivity about your edd, which is a great day ( it's my b-day :bigsmile: )

Tink- odds are low but if you O early.....I wouldn't stress about it to much, nothing you can do about it now but threaten him, I'd tell him he pulls at crap again and he's cut off till the actual attempt lol

As for me I've got an appt on Wed where I'll be getting another quick u/s and hearing the heartbeat. Being 15wks 6 dys I asked dh if they offered to peek should I have them check the gender and write it down for us to look at together and he said no, he wants to wait for the big u/s which will be in 2-4 wks. It took so long to get to 13 wks but now time is flying!

[Tink18]

I O'd early last month too for the for time on da 12.. sorry it was early morning on the 20th. I am really not too worried about it. But it's so weird that my stomach feels all crampy today. I'm sure it's me over reacting. And just wanting everything to work out perfectly then he does this!!!

[begonia]

Hi Iluv!!! Good to see you :bighug: Glad to hear you got to see the heartbeat last week and have your NT scheduled. And the timing on the baby's due date is just precious, I love coinciding events like that. I had DD2 on a date when, as a child, someone precious to me died, and it just made me feel a peace to think they are in some way connected. You're a :superhero: mom IMO for the homeschooling and working; the new approach for DD2 sounds great.

Tink so long as you don't O early you are *probably* Ok. I know OOB (pink swayer) got pg from BD about 7 days before O though, and then DoulaMama had her O come WAY early one cycle and ended up pg too. Bottom line ... IMO if this is your time, it'll happen ... FX you get to keep it on YOUR schedule though. Odds are DEFINITELY very much in favor of not getting pg that far before O so don't stress too much.

3PNB your DH is smart to wait it out! I have a friend who was told girl at 16wks but lo and behold ALL BOY at 20. You're so close though, I can't believe it! We'll know SOON if your DD is right again :fingers:

4blue I can't recall why abx sway but I think it is a pH thing? Either way, sorry your AF is on the way. FX for September!

Lola nice work showing DH the research on smoking! I'm sure that was a wake up for him. Here's to you getting pg this month girl. I'd love love love to see you with a BFP :fx:

Skrimpy glad the AF seems to be sorting itself out, and glad I could provide some comfort re: Honor's nursing pattern. As long as she's growing you know she's doing well :HH:

WP, too funny re: the eggs! We never even considered using them. My DH wasn't down with swaying in the 1st place so no way on this green earth would he have touched me with egg white in my lady business, LOL! CD13, you're getting soooo close!

Alexis FX! Don't count yourself out yet!

AFM DD1 started kindy today! She did GREAT at drop off and I can't wait to go get her and hear all about it. A good friend of mine was a lunch/playground monitor today and called me as soon as lunch was over to tell me DD was having a blast :bigsmile: She's my sweetheart and it just makes me so, so happy to know she's doing well.

Have my NT scan Thursday morning... nervous as all get out and just praying I can be three times lucky in the healthy baby department :pray: Either way I know this baby is meant for our family and it'll all be for good, but obviously we hope for everything to look perfect.

[begonia]

Flava! Just realized my novel left you out ... girl you know I'll be here in a month!!! No worries, I am sure you will have LOADS of support for your upcoming attempt. I was out a lot this weekend but during the week I am on here at LEAST once a day to post and frequently read on my phone, so I promise to do all I can to help you out when you get nervous or have questions. I want so badly for you to get that blue BFP girl!!! You're so close!

[iluvmyman]

I O'd early last month too for the for time on da 12.. sorry it was early morning on the 20th. I am really not too worried about it. But it's so weird that my stomach feels all crampy today. I'm sure it's me over reacting. And just wanting everything to work out perfectly then he does this!!!

I think your OK Tink. No worries and you probably wouldn't feel anything this early anyway. Husbands can be such pains but he sounds like a fun guy too. Good to hear from you Tink.

Thanks ladies about the due date. I wanted to get pregnant so the next child will be due around his b-day but this is nice too. Some reference makes me feel better.

Thanks B! Super Mom I am not, but thanks for the support. :) Thanks for the hug too, I could always use more. :) Sending kids to school is so bittersweet. I'm so glad she's having a blast and mommy feels better now too.

NT U/S on thurs. Yay! I will be praying for you and sure hope all is well with the new one. I never knew before to be nervous at those U/S but I'm sure it will be fine.

Begonia

[begonia]

. I never knew before to be nervous at those U/S but I'm sure it will be fine.


I miss the ignorance I had when pg with DD1 ... now I know so many friends whose kids have fairly substantial health issues (including one whose son was born with DS that was NOT picked up in any of the screens) that I don't take anything for granted. I know odds are heavily in favor of all being a-ok with #3 but it sure will feel better to see it. Thanks so much for the prayers :happy:

Off to go get DD! I am going to be the first mama there. DH took the afternoon off so we're going to get snowcones and the rest of her school supplies together. She didn't want to get a backpack before school b/c she wanted to make sure she got one NO ONE else in her class has, LOL!

[iluvmyman]

I miss the ignorance I had when pg with DD1 ... now I know so many friends whose kids have fairly substantial health issues (including one whose son was born with DS that was NOT picked up in any of the screens) that I don't take anything for granted. I know odds are heavily in favor of all being a-ok with #3 but it sure will feel better to see it. Thanks so much for the prayers :happy:

Off to go get DD! I am going to be the first mama there. DH took the afternoon off so we're going to get snowcones and the rest of her school supplies together. She didn't want to get a backpack before school b/c she wanted to make sure she got one NO ONE else in her class has, LOL!

I've been doing so much research on what to eat and what supps to take and holistic approaches to pregnancy and health. I know more now then w/ DS2 and I knew a lot w/ him. Although, I knew nothing with my 1st 3 and had no problems so maybe it better not to know. I'm waiting for my krill oil to come in so I can get on that ASAP. All these supps, grass fed meat, free range eggs, organic fruits and veggies are so crazy expensive but trying to balance and give the best to my growing baby and my others too. Balance is hard to find sometimes. Pregnancy is more expensive then swaying. :)

[WashingtonPromise]

iluv: HI!!! I don't know how you do it. Homeschool and work outside the home!!! You are super woman. Congrats on the heartbeat...what a sweet sound.

Begonia: I am sure you guys are enjoying the awesome snowcones in this hot weather. My DH would never go for EW either, obviously that is why I didn't tell him about it earlier. I hope you get a cute pic on Thursday, we need something to feed off of.

Lola: I didn't drink any green tea this month. I figure, I keep adding something new every cycle....why not take something away? Plus, it may have pushed back my Oing. I also haven't eaten as much gelatin this month. Who knows if it will do any good, but might as well try.

Flava: We will still be here next month, don't worry.


We normally BD every other day, but I was think maybe we might try tonight, too. I just would like to BD on O day, too. Do you guys think we should just wait until tomorrow....cd14?

[Alexis2007]

WP-Go for it!!

Lola-I'll probably start testing tomorrow lol. Maybe I should wait till 10dpo?

[Tink18]

Well, I have been having Cramping since this morning. So I just peed on one of my Ovulation Sticks. Today is CD11. And I am fading in. Last month I got my smiley right around noon on CD12. So if I follow what happened last month I will most likely get a smiley tomorrow. I am almost tempted to see if I get a smiley today. But the cramping has only been since today and I usually only get the smiley the next day... Since we did the on the 20th that was 3 days ago...4 would be my day of 0. What is your opinion. I'm pregnant with a Girl. lol. hahah. Either way..I would be THRILLED!!!! SO weird for the past 3 month I got a positive on CD14 and then last month CD12...and now a potential CD12 again..and my Dear sweet husband pulled this stunt. Well I was along for the ride..It is was it is. I didn't see it happening this way..If it happens this way.

[WashingtonPromise]

WP-Go for it!!

Lola-I'll probably start testing tomorrow lol. Maybe I should wait till 10dpo?

Alexis: 8 dpo is super early. Have you ever got a positive that early before?

[WashingtonPromise]

I miss the ignorance I had when pg with DD1 ... now I know so many friends whose kids have fairly substantial health issues (including one whose son was born with DS that was NOT picked up in any of the screens) that I don't take anything for granted. I know odds are heavily in favor of all being a-ok with #3 but it sure will feel better to see it. Thanks so much for the prayers :happy:

Off to go get DD! I am going to be the first mama there. DH took the afternoon off so we're going to get snowcones and the rest of her school supplies together. She didn't want to get a backpack before school b/c she wanted to make sure she got one NO ONE else in her class has, LOL!

I meant to tell you that I have had 6 wonderful pregnancies and 6 perfectly normal children. Don't worry, your little bean is going to be just perfect!!!

[Im4blue]

Hello everyone!!!!

Flava: Hooorraaayyyy for being 4dpo!!!!! FX for you!!! =)

WP: I was on the amoxi after O last cycle because I had a sinus infection. I don't take ANY meds unless they are prescribed. =) I just read somewhere that the abx can stay in your system for up to 6 weeks. I was hoping if this is true that at least it would hopefully work in my favor and not against me. =( Tooooooo funny about your DH and the egss!!!!! =) LOL!! Yaaaayyy for ewcm!!!! Go get em girl!!!!!

Alexis: 7dpo is still a bit early. Remember on average it takes an egg 7-10 days to implant. That being said though, I know what you mean. I get that "feeling" too. I hope that you are wrong and you are pleasantly suprised in a few days! =) When are you testing???

lola: I am on baby aspirin, extra b6, b12 and folic acid. Once I get pregnant they will switch me to Lovenox or heparin injections until 6wks postpartum.

Iluvmyman: Yaaaayyy for hearing the HB!! =) Good luck with your up coming ultrasound! I am also very soory for the loss of your son. =( (((hugs)))

Tink: I wouldn't freak out yet. Besides, whats meant to be will be. =)

Begonia: Glad to hear that your DD was doing well as of lunchtime!! How did she do the rest of the day??? Does she only do a 1/2 day or a full day???

EOE: Hello!!!!! =)

AFM: AF showed today. Not much else to report. I will try to catch up with you all again tomorrow!!

[Alexis2007]

Im4blue-debating on whether or not to start testing tomorrow.

WP-not sure when I've got my BFP before. Never tracked my cycles or O before. But I've got some ICs to use ;) lol

[Hobbermittens]

Try not to get too mad at him.....I think every DH comes from a different place....mine is afraid the reason we can't make a baby is HIM, so he will do whatever. But, I also threatened to not continue to ttc if he was smoking or not taking his vitamins (which was also the advice of the doc after our last m/c counseling). Hobbs, your DH may think you already made one of each, so maybe he doesn't believe in it....IDK, but I think you can still have a great sway without him....just feed him lots of protein and hearty food and see if he'll at least take a multivitamin or something?

He is taking the supps--lots of them. ANd he is good about that. It is just all his "extra curricular activities" that he won't quit, and it is making me nuts! I am only asking him to quit until I am pregnant, and then he can go back to all his bad habits!

Lola, did you do a SA for DH yet? If so, how did it come back?

[Hobbermittens]

Hobbermittens- I was really lucky with dh, he did everything I asked. He took all the sups, ate whatever I told him to, stopped drinking coffee and didn't drink any beer af-o. I think he was secretly afraid of me blaming him if it was another girl. Explain exactly why you want him to do these things, overload him with the science and let him know you don't want to leave it 100% to chance.

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You are so lucky your DH co-operated! My DH doesn't really care about gender, so I can't guilt him into doing better. He does know how important this is to me, so he is trying, but his personality is somewhat rebellious, so sometimes the more I push him, the more he pushes back... so I haven't been too tough on him about all of this, because I am afraid that he might just stop doing the stuff he is actually doing!

[Hobbermittens]

DH is doing good but I told him to lose some weight and that's what he can't do...and now he is angry about all the money spend on this.So I really hope we get a bfp next month!

I know, my DH is bitching about the money we are spending too... hope you get a BFP next month so you can be done with all this!

[WashingtonPromise]

You are so lucky your DH co-operated! My DH doesn't really care about gender, so I can't guilt him into doing better. He does know how important this is to me, so he is trying, but his personality is somewhat rebellious, so sometimes the more I push him, the more he pushes back... so I haven't been too tough on him about all of this, because I am afraid that he might just stop doing the stuff he is actually doing!

I agree, at least he is doing the supplements. My DH would like a boy, but it isn't important....no guilting him either. I do all the cooking, so he is getting plenty of protein, and it is fortunate and unfortunate that he ALWAYS likes what I am eating. So, I have to buy/cook double the amounts of coconut water, lara bars, p.butter, boiled eggs.....and all that. He even ate one of my bowls of orange juice gelatin last night. He is so funny....if it is food he is up for it, but EW and instead cups are off limits for him. Hubby is very competitive, so he just couldn't stand the fact that I was doing weights without him. Now we do them together and he has to do more reps than me....typical man.......but maybe that means he has high testosterone :) All the DHs are different, just like we are all different and doing different sways....it will work out.
You are going to start TTCing in October, right?

[WashingtonPromise]

Hello everyone!!!!

Flava: Hooorraaayyyy for being 4dpo!!!!! FX for you!!! =)

WP: I was on the amoxi after O last cycle because I had a sinus infection. I don't take ANY meds unless they are prescribed. =) I just read somewhere that the abx can stay in your system for up to 6 weeks. I was hoping if this is true that at least it would hopefully work in my favor and not against me. =( Tooooooo funny about your DH and the egss!!!!! =) LOL!! Yaaaayyy for ewcm!!!! Go get em girl!!!!!

Alexis: 7dpo is still a bit early. Remember on average it takes an egg 7-10 days to implant. That being said though, I know what you mean. I get that "feeling" too. I hope that you are wrong and you are pleasantly suprised in a few days! =) When are you testing???

lola: I am on baby aspirin, extra b6, b12 and folic acid. Once I get pregnant they will switch me to Lovenox or heparin injections until 6wks postpartum.

Iluvmyman: Yaaaayyy for hearing the HB!! =) Good luck with your up coming ultrasound! I am also very soory for the loss of your son. =( (((hugs)))

Tink: I wouldn't freak out yet. Besides, whats meant to be will be. =)

Begonia: Glad to hear that your DD was doing well as of lunchtime!! How did she do the rest of the day??? Does she only do a 1/2 day or a full day???

EOE: Hello!!!!! =)

AFM: AF showed today. Not much else to report. I will try to catch up with you all again tomorrow!!

Sorry, just assumed you were taking amoxi for TTCing, I know a lot of women do try to get an anitbiotic for that reason. Not sure how long it stays in your system, though.

Sorry abour AF, are you trying anything new this cycle? How many cycles have you been TTCing?

[Flava]

So try this on for size. DH and I were getting down on the 19th. Since on not on a BC we have been using condoms until our attempt. This Asshole, decided to just go for it and he, well you know didn't pull out. I was so Fucking pissed. No warning at all. He said he just wanted to go for it. He doesn't care if it's a girl or a boy. OMG. I could kill him. The only thing that makes me feel good right now is, A. LMP was one the 12th, so I am due to ovulate this Thursday. SO I think i have may escaped his getting me pregnant...But you know never know. He could have slipped one by. and as we all learned back in 6th grade all unprotected sex leads to pregnancy. Oh man. Plus the wedding in 2 months. Oh well...whatever happens happens! right...It's gods way! SO what do you ladies think my chances are of actually getting pregnant 8 days after LMP?

WTH is wrong with this DH's?:nono: If you are going to O on thursday then this was just 3 day before O? Sure you can get pregnant from it!
I would kick him out of the room till is time to try again.lol

[Flava]

3pin-15w6 day is almost 16 w and they can tell the gender for sure. Ask them!:wink: ask ask ask!!!:bigsmile::bigsmile::bigsmile:

[Flava]

Flava! Just realized my novel left you out ... girl you know I'll be here in a month!!! No worries, I am sure you will have LOADS of support for your upcoming attempt. I was out a lot this weekend but during the week I am on here at LEAST once a day to post and frequently read on my phone, so I promise to do all I can to help you out when you get nervous or have questions. I want so badly for you to get that blue BFP girl!!! You're so close!

Oh ty ty! You are always so sweet!:heart:

[Flava]

WP-thanks! and I would wait till CD 14

[Flava]

4blue- thanks , but I only will try next month! and sorry for freaking AF!:mad:

[Flava]

Im4blue-debating on whether or not to start testing tomorrow.

WP-not sure when I've got my BFP before. Never tracked my cycles or O before. But I've got some ICs to use ;) lol

your chart is looking good!!! FX!!!!

[Flava]

I know, my DH is bitching about the money we are spending too... hope you get a BFP next month so you can be done with all this!

Ty Im so hoping too! But to get a bfp first try well would need a lot's of luck!

[Flava]

Hubby is very competitive, so he just couldn't stand the fact that I was doing weights without him. Now we do them together and he has to do more reps than me....typical man.......
omg this is so funny I wish my DH would do this:rofl:

[LolaInLove]

Mornin' Blue Crew!

Iluv, oops! Glad your u/s went well! I hear you about the money spent when pg, I am super anal about my diet then also. What supps besides krill do you take when pg? I am intrigued about your right-brain teaching, I will have to look that up. Good for you for doing that, you are indeed a SuperMom!!! Will I stay on Clomid? I don't know, I think she only wants me to do 4 cycles max....it is supposed to be bad for you longer than 6, but since my doc thinks I do ov on my own, the Clomid is kind of an experiment to see if it helps me pop out a good egg since we *think* my recurrent m/c are due to poor egg and/or sperm quality. So, I will likely do a couple more rounds, then on to natural.

Tink, I know you are going to hate me saying this, but I wish I could give your DH a high five. He sounds awesome. I love it! Although I know you are nervous now. Well, 4 days out....that is an iffy one. Some sperm can make it, some don't. You know I'm gonna give you the timing doesn't matter speech here. BUT, you could just go for it tomorrow? I know you wanted to wait though.....tough call. I bet you are fine, though. If you wanted to be "thorough" you could douche or something? Just some ideas, cuz I know how it is to have a potential oops.

3PNB, I CANNOT WAIT TILL YOUR BIG U/S!!!! I don't blame you for not wanting to know now....but hey, maybe you will get a glimpse of the turtle that you just can't ignore!!! Thanks for the pep talk about the diet.....you are right, I would kick myself. Problem is only that I have this weird feeling that maybe the weight is inhibiting me from getting pg, but I am not going to take a break again....too old for that. It would take me at least 6 months to get back to normal, and then I would start all over again and gain? I just don't think it's gonna happen that way, although that is kinda the ideal thing to do, like TTC5. I am keeping it up for now, just really trying to eat little healthy bits all day long, and did start working out and lifting more this week. (DH is also, he's gotta get bare-chested on stage in a month and is beefing up the pecs....nice to have a work out buddy.)

Flava, thanks for the luv, hun!!!! You know all of us have our Flava Pom Poms out for you.....

Begonia, again I say, your DD2 is my kinda gal. Waiting till she sees the backpack array in K before she gets one, I freaking love it. You know she is going to be a ballcrusher one day. So exciting about your scan on Thursday also! No reason to worry or be nervous....go in there assuming all is well because it probably is. Don't worry until you have a reason to worry, that is my motto!!!

WP, I think it's a good idea to switch things around, especially if you had such a long cycle last time. Dropping the gelatin is probably a good thing for ya. I would go ahead and bd tonight for sure, looks like you may be Oing today??? I would definitely bd on O day. I can't remember if you have answered this or not, but do you remember if things were different when you had your sons? I faintly remember you saying you were eating more?

Alexis, 10dpo is the earliest I will test. That is the day I got bfps this year, although I didn't get them until later with my girls. It's kinda up to you, if you won't be upset getting a bfn early (even though you may get a bfp in a few days). And YES don't count yourself out just because you aren't feeling pg!

4Blue, I didn't realize that you had 2 losses like that....not to be personal, but do they think they are because of clotting and other issues? I can identify with the recurrent losses, as you can see. Unfortunately, there is no reason for my losses. I've had a battery of tests done and all normal. I REALLY really hope we both get a sticker this next time!!!!

Hobbs, I didn't make DH get the SA yet. My doc has told me that since he's gotten me pg 3 times already, odds are that his swimmers work. I think if we have another 2 months of bfns, I may ask him to go ahead and do it. Thing is, I pump him full of all of the supps they give to low count and motility patients anyway, and if there is something wrong, we can't afford to do IVF anyway, so it's natural or nothing for us. I guess we could do IUI, but clearly his swimmers can swim, they've done it before. The one thing my doc said is that *sometimes* when the man has a "balanced translocation" where his chromosomes have an extra arm, although it doesn't affect him, it makes it hard to near impossible for his chomosomes to mix and make a good baby. She said he's need to do a DNA karotype ($800 out of pocket) to find out, and if that's the case anyway, we'd have to do IVF with PGD anyway. If that is the case, then we are shit out of luck. But on YOUR DH, I wouldn't worry too much, if he is taking a bunch of supps and eating well, that's good! I kwym about the extracurricular. I guess if he won't quit, you just can't worry about it too much and hopefully the supps are helping cancel that out!

[Flava]

DD3 had first day of school yesterday! She like it so Im happy! Good that this school has cameras so i came home log on and watch her on my laptop. Right now she is sitting by the table making some art.:awe:
Not so easy at home with DD4 she miss everyone and just hanging on me till we go pick up DD3.

Ok finally I got DH to talk what to do next month TBM or just DTD or both or WTH because he was not talking about it. And he said to DTD ...huh yeah ok Im scared but that's what we gonna do.
He also said he is horny must be that blue pill I give him all the time.( the ubiquinol coq10 ) I was like yessss it's working :rofl:
So I hope sperm count is sky high next month !:agree:

[Flava]

Flava, thanks for the luv, hun!!!! You know all of us have our Flava Pom Poms out for you.....
LOL that's so nice I have the same for you all!:bluecheer::bluesperm::bluecheer::bluesperm::b luecheer:

About the spend money on food when pregnant omg I didn't even think of that! Im just waiting to stop buying all this sup, V8 , nuts, dry fruit , ect.
We just don't have the money for all and suppose to save for a car...well I don't know how if we have to spend like this!:mad: we really need that bfp soon!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, sounds like DH's testosterone is nice and high! You are gonna be just fine, think CONQUER AND CREATE BOY!!!

[begonia]

DD3 had first day of school yesterday! She like it so Im happy! Good that this school has cameras so i came home log on and watch her on my laptop. Right now she is sitting by the table making some art.:awe:
Not so easy at home with DD4 she miss everyone and just hanging on me till we go pick up DD3.

Ok finally I got DH to talk what to do next month TBM or just DTD or both or WTH because he was not talking about it. And he said to DTD ...huh yeah ok Im scared but that's what we gonna do.
He also said he is horny must be that blue pill I give him all the time.( the ubiquinol coq10 ) I was like yessss it's working :rofl:
So I hope sperm count is sky high next month !:agree:

LOL! Your DH is ready!!! :bluesperm::bluesperm: So funny! I like Lola's quote ... CONQUER! CREATE BOY! You can do it!

I bet DD4 does miss the big girls! So sweet that you can check in on DD3; I'm glad she had a great 1st day!

Lola DD came home yesterday and let me know she wants a Tiger backpack, because no one else has one, and Tigers are her favorite animal because they are ferocious and like steak :rofl: It took me like an hour online to find a tiger pack that didn't have some kind of college or pro-team associated with it ... I will say, the internet is great for making your kids dreams come true :wink: Sounds like your doc has really been thorough with your options which is nice. I still can't imagine that there's really a big issue; I think you've had some CRAP luck, but it just feels like it's going to happen for you naturally.. 35 isn't prime fertility by any means but it isn't like you've just got nothin' left in there, and you've obviously had 2 healthy ladies so your eggs aren't just incapable. This will happen, like you told Flava, think CONQUER! Definitely getting out the pom-poms for this month :bluecheer: Hmmm, that could be a fun way to spice things up :bigsmile:

WP thanks for the encouragement love! What did you decide to do on the supps?

4Blue are you going to change anything up this month or keep your sway the same?

Alexis did you test?

Ladies it is just crazy to me but I have lost every bit of caring about the gender lately. I was shopping for a friend's baby yesterday and got so sad thinking I might not get to buy baby girl clothes again. I'm glad I swayed but I really will be so thrilled with another little lady and I just can't wait to get to meet this little person! :pickuphappy:

[Alexis2007]

So I tested this morning at 8dpo...and I swear I can see the faintest of faint lines!! I used a Wondfo. Hoping it's not an evap and it will be darker tomorrow morning!

My temp shot way up this morning. Hoping that's a good sign too.

[Flava]

begonia-good job finding a steak eating tiger backpack!:rofl:

oh I had to find this mouse from "if you give a mouse a cookie" book and in a read pants! The school has one they got it from Kols with the book but Kols don't have it anymore. So i got 1 online today. Now she go looking outside every 5 min. for it. lol

[Flava]

So I tested this morning at 8dpo...and I swear I can see the faintest of faint lines!! I used a Wondfo. Hoping it's not an evap and it will be darker tomorrow morning!

My temp shot way up this morning. Hoping that's a good sign too.

Alexis!!!:holysheep:I told you your temps looks so good I hope it's not a trick!
Can you post a pick from the test? We got eagle eyes here!lol

[Alexis2007]

Flava I can try but I doubt you'll see anything. I even inverted it and can't see anything. Ugh!! Give me a few minutes to figure out how to post a pic on here lol.

[Alexis2007]

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/AlexisBree2007/IMG_2568.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/AlexisBree2007/IMG_2568-1.jpg

I really hope this will be a real BFP in a couple of days! It's probably nothing though :(

[Flava]

A line is a line! And that's a LINE right there!!!!I can see it on BOTH pics!!Wow Alexis you must test tomorrow again!:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer: :bluecheer::bluecheer:

[Alexis2007]

Can you really Flava?! I can barely tell in these pics. It's there IRL though! I will definitely test again in the morning. I think I'll limit my water intake tonight to make sure my urine is as concentrated as it can be! lol

[Hobbermittens]

Hobbs, I didn't make DH get the SA yet. My doc has told me that since he's gotten me pg 3 times already, odds are that his swimmers work. I think if we have another 2 months of bfns, I may ask him to go ahead and do it. Thing is, I pump him full of all of the supps they give to low count and motility patients anyway, and if there is something wrong, we can't afford to do IVF anyway, so it's natural or nothing for us. I guess we could do IUI, but clearly his swimmers can swim, they've done it before. The one thing my doc said is that *sometimes* when the man has a "balanced translocation" where his chromosomes have an extra arm, although it doesn't affect him, it makes it hard to near impossible for his chomosomes to mix and make a good baby. She said he's need to do a DNA karotype ($800 out of pocket) to find out, and if that's the case anyway, we'd have to do IVF with PGD anyway. If that is the case, then we are shit out of luck. But on YOUR DH, I wouldn't worry too much, if he is taking a bunch of supps and eating well, that's good! I kwym about the extracurricular. I guess if he won't quit, you just can't worry about it too much and hopefully the supps are helping cancel that out!

I guess I see the logic in your Dr.'s plan. Hopefully you won't have to worry about doing anything high tech. I have my fingers crossed for a BFP for you, Lola!! It WILL happen!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Alexis: I have a crappy computer monitor, so I hope some more ladies chime in. Can't wait to hear about tomorrow's test!!!

Lola: We were on vaca when conceiving DS1 and eating a lot more than normal....lots of seafood. DS2 I had put on some extra weight, because of my m/cs. But, with both I was eating more meat than when conceiving all my DDs. I meant to tell you.... I had 2 miscarriages inbetween my DSs and they also found nothing wrong. I then suffered 1 more m/c after DD2 and none since. I only had to have a d&c with the 3rd (after 3 wks of waiting), the rest took care of themselves naturally. I know you had you girls with differeny swimmers, but things happen. There is no reason sometimes. Have you been feeling hungry? I have been eating less and I guys my body is getting upset. I am trying to stay level at least until AF shows (if she does). I have trained my body to expect more food....we need a hungry over-weight smilie for the TTC boy side.

Begonia: Too cute that DD wants her own unique backpack. Glad you are excited about meet you little one, too. Babies are so lovable and like you said, I love buying girlie things. Oh, the only thing I took away this cycle is the green tea...still doing gelatin, just not as much. And I added a bunch of new supp.

I was looking at my normal vitamins that I get from Lucky Vitamin. They have a lot of the same things I am taking already, but in smaller doses. Except more B12 and B6. I am not taking them now, but planned on switching after a BFP or maybe when I run out of all my bottles.....who knows....just a thought.

Still have EW, look like it may be turning....it has some creamy and watery mixed in. Hope my temp jumps tomorrow.
:fingers:

[WashingtonPromise]

Alexis: If you have a FF account, you should post it over there. They are awesome at seeing lines!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh, one more thing....

I can not get a + on my OPKs!!! I tried last month too. I bought them off ebay....I am thinking they may be junk. I have gotten a very faint line, line almost as dark as control, and then white. I did a 4-5 hour hold, too. I think I am going to give up on them. I can't drink as much as I need to if I am holding for an OPK.

Okay, I HAVE to go pick tomatoes now before supper......

[Alexis2007]

WP-I bought my opks from amazon. Got like 40 opks + 10 IC hpts for under $10. That's enough opks to last me for about 3 months! lol And they are Wondfos. Gotta be careful on ebay. Some of those are knock offs.

I do have FF, but I don't have VIP so I don't think I can get into the forums on there. I'll look and see though. Thanks!

Good luck! Hope your temp spikes tomorrow! FX for May babies!!

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I hear ya on the ignorant bliss of preg #1, you were thrilled and planning their room from the second the stick turned. I too miss the days before losses and friends with kids with problems. I swear pregnancy is the only place in life where the less you know the better.
Love your individualist making sure she has the only backpack lol Yay for snowcones! We do first and last day of school slurpees, it's a dumb little tradition but we all love it!

Iluv- here's a tip on organic fruit, if it has a think rind (melons, oranges, lemons, bananas) or can be easily scrubbed (carrots, potatoes, apples) don't bother. The pesticides don't soak through the thick rinds and can be easily washed off the others with a little soap and water or fruit cleaner. Go organic on things you can't wash well (grapes, berries) or that you cook as is (broccoli, artichokes). Learned that from Dr Oz :bigsmile:

Hobbermittens- dh doesn't care about gender either, in fact I had to beg for #4. He was perfectly content with his girls, he knew I wanted it and all that I was doing to make it happen. He was just a very willing participant in the whole experiment lo

Flava- dh would kill me if I found out the gender to without him, maybe if I tell him it was an accident, baby mooned us lol glad dd3 had a great first day, love the camera's but I'd never get anything done lol My youngest is also a little bored without dd2 around but she's starting to really enjoy being the only opinion that matters lol

Lola- you are no where big enough to have the weight be an issue, I was only at a healthy weight one of the 5 times I've conceived. You'd need another 100 lbs on you for it to be a problem. I like the plan of more snacking and working out, especially with dh :)

Wp- yeah you might want to get a different brand or the "almost" might be as dark as they'll get.

Alexis- I think I see it then I don't. Make sure your checking it and taking pics in the time frame so you can be sure it's not an evap. If you see it in the time frame check again after it dries and take pics in all sorts of light, bathroom, window sill, outside, gives you more to obsess over lol

[Alexis2007]

That pic was taken when it was dry but the line was there within the time limit. I've got a feeling it's an evap so trying not to get my hopes up!

[3Pink1Blue]

I HATE evaps, nothing gets your hope up like an evap! If you saw it in the time limit it's probably not an evap though, fx for a more photogenic line tomorrow :bluecheer:

[Tink18]

Alexis, I can totally see a line as well!!

On another note..my fading has stopped. Which is weird to me. It started yesterday CD11. And then nothing today. I feel crampy still. But never got anything. No smiley...Notta...zip. zero. I am still going to test through day 14 in hopes I continue on to my regular 14 day Ovulation pattern...but i am just confused as to why yesterday I had lines and today and I had none........wtf mate?

[iluvmyman]

I saw the line too, Alexis. GL!!!!

Hobbermittens - my DH didn't stop extra cirricular w/ either of our last 2.

WP - I had the digital OPK's as back-up. I just watched a child's science experiments about potatoes that was intersting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exBEFCiWyW0

4blue - thanks for the condolances. Losing my son the day he was born is horrible, I can't imagine the additional pain after loving and holding them for 2 months. That just makes me so deeply sad and speechless really. I'm glad that you are doing OK and still trying to conceive.

Begonia - Your daughter sounds like a kick in the pants and a little too smart for your own good. Sounds like she keeps you guys laughing w/ a good mix of WTHeck? exchanges between you and DH. She sounds like a great kid!!

Lola - I really really like the alternative/homeopathic views. I have a great e-book called the fit and healthy pregnancy guide but be warned they have some alternative thoughts like fat isn't necessarily bad for you and raw milk. http://www.fithealthypregnancy.blogspot.com/

I also love Dr. Mercola & order products from Dr. Ron
http://www.mercola.com/
http://www.drrons.com/

I use innate response prenantal vitamins. they are seperated into I & II trimester, then a 3rd trimester. I'm considering adding probiotics but want to meet w/ a naturopath as soon as I clear up the hold on my flexible spending account cuz it's $140for the 1st 2 hr visit and $45 each additional visit I think. I took a probiotic the last 6 weeks of my last pregnancy called Ecologic Panda something and Alfalfa supps at the end instead of the Vit. K shot they give in the hospital.
So, I just got my shipment from Dr. Ron's in the mail today. Yay! My current supplement plan is, innate response prenantal, krill Oil, fremented cod liver oil/butter oil blend, Cal/Mag Hydroxyapatite Plus, and Folic Acid for now. I am taking liver supps for iron sometimes and might take Dr. Rons organ delight but it was too expensive this round. I also want to verify w/ a naturopath. My diet and stuff should add other missing important things like raw egg yolks (free range chickens - hormone free & all that) which is important brain building called Choline and other good high quality, organic, grass fed meat and stuff. The diet I am doing the worst on since I live at my hoarding mother's house w/ no room to cook, I hate cooking, my energy is wiped by 3:00 and it's crazy expensive. I'm avoiding bad food OK but not eating perfect either. I promised I would this time too. I use organic shampoo/conditioner from Dr. Ron, soap and face wash stuff and try to avoid chemicals.

No one go crazy please I like alternative stuff and it isn't the norm for sure. Like I said I want to check w/ a naturopath but I feel like i'm in good shape, I just need to eat better and cook those high quality food. I"m on the internet quite a bit researching.

Truthfully I'm sort of nervous. I know none of those things were involved in DS2's death but it is a little scary and I'd love to talk to 1 of Dr. Ron's patients just to make sure people took all this stuff and had healthy pregnancies.I asked and of coarse he said yes.

The right-brained stuff is from Dianne Craft http://www.diannecraft.org/

[iluvmyman]

Tink - you've been tracking for bit so go off of the other signs and follow up w/ a digital if you are not sure. wierd. Maybe you started and pregnancy kicked in instead. :) Your timing is a stretch but I guess we'll have to wait and see. :)

[Kris217]

Hi laides. Sorry I've been gone. I've got a lot of things I'm studying and reading lately in my spare time (ha!) and then I'm tired pretty early but I think about everyone often. There is no way I can catch up w/ all the posts but welcome to some new members.

Any BFP's in the last 2 weeks. Lola, I'm soooooo bummed no BFP last cycle GL to you on this cycle. I'm sure DH isn't complaining too much about the every other day. :)

Hi Begonia!!!

I got to have 1 more in office U/S last week and heard the heartbeat on Friday. That will be it until my 12 week NT U/S in 4 weeks on Sept. 20th. I realized I'm due right around when I possibly conceived DS2, so that's kind of neat and a week or so after my brother's b-day (he died) so it's kinda neat for me. The in-office U/S put my due date at March 31st which is at least several days after my O date and certainly FDOL Menstrual. Oh well, I'm sticking w/ my ticker for now.

4blue, I'm soooo sorry to hear about the loss of your son at 2 months of SIDS. I don't even know what to say about that but my heart breaks. I sure hope you get pregnant right away and no more m/c. :(

My due date is March 31st too and my NT scan is on the 19th :)

[begonia]

3PNB I love the slurpee tradition! I might do a slight copy and make ours a snocone tradition for 1st and last day :) Ignorance really is bliss. There are many things I wish I could forget!

WP that is nuts re: the OPKs! Definitely get some different ones and see what's up. So you think O was today, right? So in the 2WW tomorrow?

Alexis, I'm not 100% but I do think I see a lil' hint there! POAS in the am and tell us good news :bluecheer:

Iluv, good for you for doing all the research and taking what you feel is best, and I think you're smart to ask to talk to one of his patients too. Hope you hear good things that put your mind at ease. Can't imagine trying to cook healthy dinners not in your own kitchen, after working and homeschooling ... I think you're right to just do the best you can. That little bean is no doubt snuggled in there doing just fine.

I'm sure I've missed some gals so I'm sorry but I am exhausted! I'm headed off to bed. OH - Jen! Hope the scan is fun tomorrow! Keep us posted and if you get any more cute pics post them!

[iluvmyman]

My due date is March 31st too and my NT scan is on the 19th :)

My NT was scheduled for the 19th too but had to re-schedule since I work on that day. too funny. My dr. is wrong though on the measurement date which I hope is OK since the timing is very specific.

[iluvmyman]

3PNB I love the slurpee tradition! I might do a slight copy and make ours a snocone tradition for 1st and last day :) Ignorance really is bliss. There are many things I wish I could forget!

WP that is nuts re: the OPKs! Definitely get some different ones and see what's up. So you think O was today, right? So in the 2WW tomorrow?

Alexis, I'm not 100% but I do think I see a lil' hint there! POAS in the am and tell us good news :bluecheer:

Iluv, good for you for doing all the research and taking what you feel is best, and I think you're smart to ask to talk to one of his patients too. Hope you hear good things that put your mind at ease. Can't imagine trying to cook healthy dinners not in your own kitchen, after working and homeschooling ... I think you're right to just do the best you can. That little bean is no doubt snuggled in there doing just fine.

I'm sure I've missed some gals so I'm sorry but I am exhausted! I'm headed off to bed. OH - Jen! Hope the scan is fun tomorrow! Keep us posted and if you get any more cute pics post them!

:) Love ya, B!

[Kris217]

My NT was scheduled for the 19th too but had to re-schedule since I work on that day. too funny. My dr. is wrong though on the measurement date which I hope is OK since the timing is very specific.

I think when the foetus is this small it's easy for the Dr to be off a little, I mean it only millimetres. My dates were very specific too, doing inseminations I knew exactly when I did it. On my scan photos though it says second trimester, I don't know why, a mistake I'm guessing?

[Alexis2007]

Well, ladies! It was not an evap!! Here's today's pics

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/AlexisBree2007/IMG_2579.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss160/AlexisBree2007/IMG_2579-1.jpg

[Flava]

Alexis-this pic is even better !!! wow!!! You are pregnant girl! yeyyy!:bluecheer:

http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/667/667594r62hyr5cwg.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Alexis2007]

It is even better today! I didn't drink anything after 7pm last night lol. I wanted to make sure it was VERY concentrated!

I am so happy about this because I was not gonna do the diet anymore. This was it. I feel so much better knowing I got pregnant while swaying as opposed to getting pregnant while not swaying lol.

Let's just hope this baby sticks in there until at least April!! EDD should be May 7th!

[Flava]

iluv-big hugs to you! omg I would go crazy if I have to take all this stuff! Just to research it is to much for me lol and I don't even have a clue what is a naturopath lol.
Anyway I guess Im the other way around I take my prenatal and eat healthy and that's it . Im scared to take anything else when pregnant , because what if ?

Sorry about the "hoarding mother" I just absolute hate hate that kind of stuff! omg I even hate to pack up Christmas stuff lol. I always clean out things and give it to goodwill or to someone else. Must be very hard to live in a house like that!
Hope you guys can move out soon!

[Flava]

It is even better today! I didn't drink anything after 7pm last night lol. I wanted to make sure it was VERY concentrated!

I am so happy about this because I was not gonna do the diet anymore. This was it. I feel so much better knowing I got pregnant while swaying as opposed to getting pregnant while not swaying lol.

Let's just hope this baby sticks in there until at least April!! EDD should be May 7th!

yes stick baby stick! It's great that you got a bfp on the diet!

[Flava]

Hope everyone else is ok! I must go get DD ready for school . Can't sit here on the morning or Im late for everything lol

[WashingtonPromise]

:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer::bluec heer::bluecheer:

Yeah, Alexis!!!!! I am so happy for you!!!!! I told you that you would be the first in a huge string of BFP this month!!! You go girl!!!!

[Alexis2007]

Thanks WP!!! And I am sooooooooo glad you were right! :D

[WashingtonPromise]

iluv: I am going to have to look into all the supp you take while pregnant. We drink raw milk and know the benefits since we live on the farm, but all the info is so awesome. Your creating a very nice home for your little bean, I hope he wants to come out when your due date rolls around.

Well, I had tons of EWCM yesterday and we did BD. I expected my temp to be up this morning, but it was still 96.9....which is has been for the past few days. But, I know I am Oing or the hoover dam broke yesterday.

Oh, Hubby has another complant.....his hair is growing too fast. I normally cut his hair once a month, but now it is every 2-3 wks. And the poor guy, he is having to rip his finger nails off more often (he doesn't like the nail clippers). :sigh: My nails are growing like crazy, too.

[Alexis2007]

Added my boy sway! Let me know what you think! :D

[LolaInLove]

I guess I see the logic in your Dr.'s plan. Hopefully you won't have to worry about doing anything high tech. I have my fingers crossed for a BFP for you, Lola!! It WILL happen!!!

THANK YOU!!! I would love to go high tech if I could, but it's just not in the financial cards. We'll see.....

[3Pink1Blue]

Iluv- I'm a huge fan of holistic remedies, I'm actually a massage therapist. I'm all for vinegar bathes for fevers and hot showers as decongestants :)

B- thanks we love the slurpees too! My hope is I'll get a call/pic from my girls after their first day of collage saying they're slurping away. Silly I know but it would make me super happy :)

Woohoo Alexis! That is definitely a line!

Wp- lol at your dh, hair growing too fast :rofl:

Well I gotta leave for my appt in about 10 minutes so I guess I better go, I'll check in later with an update and hopefully pics :)

[LolaInLove]

Alexis, I can totally see a line as well!!

On another note..my fading has stopped. Which is weird to me. It started yesterday CD11. And then nothing today. I feel crampy still. But never got anything. No smiley...Notta...zip. zero. I am still going to test through day 14 in hopes I continue on to my regular 14 day Ovulation pattern...but i am just confused as to why yesterday I had lines and today and I had none........wtf mate?

Hey, maybe you are in luck and are O'ing a bit late! Haven't you had more protein this month?

[LolaInLove]

YAYYYYY ALEXIS! I am just so excited for you! Not too bad, 2 months, yea? That is SO GREAT!!!! How are you feeling? No symptoms still?

WP, that is weird about the opks. I am using the same Wondfo ones that Alexis is, you get a buttload of them for $9 on Amazon. I've never used them before, so getting used to them, but I don't think opks lie, you may just be delayed a day or two for some reason (probably swaying related). I think it's good you bd'ed and I would just keep at it. Interesting about your DSs being conceived with more food intake....that seems like good proof that diet works for you. Sorry to hear about your m/c also! You are right, so many women have them interspersed with normal healthy pregnancies. I am REALLY hoping that this is our month, I think I will O in the next few days and then we can join Alexis on a May Babies board!

Iluv, thanks for sharing your healthy pregnancy info! I think you are doing everything just fine, especially with seeing a naturopath about it. I am SURE that none of this contributed to your DS2's death.....and you are indeed creating a fabulous baby-growing cave inside of you. Hope you are feeling good!!!

3PNB, excited to hear about your scan in a while!

Begonia, I am LOVING that you are meh about the gender now.....I really hope I get that way when I am pregnant. You know what show makes me want a baby girl? Have you seen "Good Luck, Charlie" on the Disney Channel? My girls love that show. The little baby girl, Charlie, is SO freakin' precious, every time I watch it I want another one. But I think it's great that you are in that nice neutral territory and can just enjoy your pregnancy!

Kris, I hope your MS is starting to ease up!

AFM: dtd again last night and I got some instead cups (thanks again for the push on that, Flava) and I am liking adding this back in....even though I feel like I have to stick my WHOLE ARM up my vagingo to get that mother out! I slept with it in last night. I am actually kinda feeling good about this every other day thing, because I read this HILARIOUS book called "Exploiting My Baby" by this comedian Teresa something and she talks about how she got scared after no bfp for a few months (she was 37) and got too wound up about it all, so she just simplified her life and they dtd every other day and got pg right away with a boy. Ha! My wishful thinking. Anyway, trucking along. Hoping to join you all in the 2ww/bfp land soon.

[Alexis2007]

Lola-this was our 3rd month ttc :) I'm glad it's the last! So stressful!

Thanks again ladies!!! Off to find the Due in May board!!

[Flava]

WP- your DH is a funny guy lol and why is he complaining if you are the one who have to cut his hair not him? hehe

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- I heard about that book, so it's worth the read?

Well ladies great appt, solid heartbeat and quick u/s. No good pics as the baby was crazy uncooperative, couldn't even get a slight profile lol Told dh and he said good, I want a squirly baby. Lol Anyway the big gender finding out u/s is scheduled, Sept 23 here we come!

More good news! Lola the fertility gods have smiled on us both, bil and his worthless gf are having another girl!!! I feel a bit evil for being so happy but f-it I'm happy :bigsmile:

[Flava]

Well I gotta leave for my appt in about 10 minutes so I guess I better go, I'll check in later with an update and hopefully pics

OMG Im soooo excited now!:running::running::running: I will stalk this thread all day hope you come back ASAP and post! (also hoping you find out :P)
but anyway I can't wait to see cute baby pics!!!!!:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:

[iluvmyman]

I think when the foetus is this small it's easy for the Dr to be off a little, I mean it only millimetres. My dates were very specific too, doing inseminations I knew exactly when I did it. On my scan photos though it says second trimester, I don't know why, a mistake I'm guessing?

That's weird. when was your insemination date? I wasn't able to read back and I hope its not too personal to ask, but are you doing a volunteer C-Section?

[Flava]

Lola- I heard about that book, so it's worth the read?

Well ladies great appt, solid heartbeat and quick u/s. No good pics as the baby was crazy uncooperative, couldn't even get a slight profile lol Told dh and he said good, I want a squirly baby. Lol Anyway the big gender finding out u/s is scheduled, Sept 23 here we come!

More good news! Lola the fertility gods have smiled on us both, bil and his worthless gf are having another girl!!! I feel a bit evil for being so happy but f-it I'm happy :bigsmile:

ahhh no picks,:sad: but you know I heard that babys who move to much are usually boys.:wink::bigsmile:
What babys your BIL have? All girls?

[Flava]

Lola -the "whole arm "you are so funny:rofl:
Not easy to take it out . What I did put one leg up on the toilet and reach for it like that. Maybe a little bit easier that way. But for sure hard to take it out.
Lot easier to put it in.
See I still don't have any IC! Ahh have to buy some, but all I do for like 2 weeks is buying school stuff!:mad:

Also I have to hide it all because DD1 is already suspicious about all the sups ...the other day I was shopping with her (school stuff of course) and I was in a hurry home to eat (:sigh:) and she was like -why are you always worry about your blood sugar ? I was like I want to be healthy and live long lol
She don't wan us to have another baby at all! She already said after DD4 she hopes no more baby for us.
Well sorry for her, but she is not the one to decide lol.I told her you can do that when it's about your kids.

[iluvmyman]

iluv-big hugs to you! omg I would go crazy if I have to take all this stuff! Just to research it is to much for me lol and I don't even have a clue what is a naturopath lol.
Anyway I guess Im the other way around I take my prenatal and eat healthy and that's it . Im scared to take anything else when pregnant , because what if ?

Sorry about the "hoarding mother" I just absolute hate hate that kind of stuff! omg I even hate to pack up Christmas stuff lol. I always clean out things and give it to goodwill or to someone else. Must be very hard to live in a house like that!
Hope you guys can move out soon!

I think that's the million dollar question but there's also the theory's as to why we have so many issues w/ ADHD, ADD, Autism & other stuff. There is a school of thought that our food most people eat is so deficient of vitamins, nutrients, fats & oils (processed foods w/ a lack of healthy oils and lack of good animal fats and proteins) that we aren't giving our growing babies what they need.

The Krill and FCLO/Butter Oil have great Omegas, EPA, DHA. Krill has great Vit. A, D & Astaxanthin. Vitamin D is extremely important which we s/b getting from sun exposure but with sunblock and weather, most people don't get enough and pre-term labor has been associated with the deficiency. You can make up so much in food but not many of us eat that great or supps wouldn't really be needed at all. I don't find the regular pre-natals purchased from our HMO are that good.

Anyway I'm sure that was way too much info! I think it's a hard balance to find and the naturopath is just a holistic Dr.. I will meet with 1 just to verify. It is scary though to go outside the norm. My current Dr. knows nothing beyond his scope of modern medicine and when I showed him my prenantals he really didn't look and said I should just take Kaisers. what a disappointment. My sister is due the end of October and she's been taking the FCLO & Innate prenatals so I will feel much better if she has a healthy delivery.

It would be nice if someone like the coroner would give me a call back and give me some info about my son's Cause of Death. It's just been guess work and internet research. Maybe the naturopath will give me some sort of insight. W/ a 2 hr. consult he might be able to give me some info and at least listen to me. My Dr. gives me none. AUGH! I'm just praying about the supps and doing what I think is best. :)

NO pressure and I don't want to get on a soap box in anyway, I just think it's fascinating.

[iluvmyman]

iluv: I am going to have to look into all the supp you take while pregnant. We drink raw milk and know the benefits since we live on the farm, but all the info is so awesome. Your creating a very nice home for your little bean, I hope he wants to come out when your due date rolls around.

Well, I had tons of EWCM yesterday and we did BD. I expected my temp to be up this morning, but it was still 96.9....which is has been for the past few days. But, I know I am Oing or the hoover dam broke yesterday.

Oh, Hubby has another complant.....his hair is growing too fast. I normally cut his hair once a month, but now it is every 2-3 wks. And the poor guy, he is having to rip his finger nails off more often (he doesn't like the nail clippers). :sigh: My nails are growing like crazy, too.

I was doing the raw milk last pregnancy and totally believe in it. Taking it again is a little scary for me though since we don't bottle it ourselves and I just feel so unconfident about C.O.D for our son. I'm really really debating on drinking it again. I'm scared but I think it's benefits are excellent. Debate, debate, debate. :) That's so great you have cows on the farm. I wouldn't hesitate that way.

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- he's got one girl already so this is two. He's just the kinda guy that would rub dh's nose in it if he had a boy and we have another girl. It's literally the only thing he could hold over dh and he would.
FX your right and its a little blue hider :)
Sorry dd1 doesn't want more, if my girls had their way we'd be the Duggars lol

Iluv-I can only imagine that almost any answer would be great at this point. Big, big hugs to you momma :hugs:

[Flava]

iluv- Im sure we have all this problems because we do not eat healthy! me and DH watch movies about this stuff and it's scary how they slowly kill us really with all the junk! So we try to eat better for sure.
That's just crazy they can't give you info about the cause of death! It would make me wonder did they do somethign wrong and that's why they don't want to tell?

[Flava]

3pink- at least bil can't be all over it haha! I so hope you have a boy in there!
yeah DD1...she will be 14 in a couple weeks and she is not helpful or anything like that. Sometimes I asked her to hold DD4 and she got angry even at the baby! So I guess she think if we have more I ask her to help (which would be normal, I think bigger kids can help out and all kid have to learn chores anyway ) and she just don't like to do anything to help .
I only asked her sometimes ! Not like every day !

[iluvmyman]

3pink- at least bil can't be all over it haha! I so hope you have a boy in there!
yeah DD1...she will be 14 in a couple weeks and she is not helpful or anything like that. Sometimes I asked her to hold DD4 and she got angry even at the baby! So I guess she think if we have more I ask her to help (which would be normal, I think bigger kids can help out and all kid have to learn chores anyway ) and she just don't like to do anything to help .
I only asked her sometimes ! Not like every day !

My 16 year old is the same way. I think some kids are just more maternal then others. DD1 sees the other kids as an inconvenience really, that messed up her life. there was a 9 year age gap and it didn't bode well for her to "lose" her parents attention. She refused to see DS2's birth and was full of attitude. We have 1 picture w/ her in the room after he was born looking like a sour puss. I don't think she ever held him. She's not happy about this pregnancy either, which it just so incredibly sad to me. Especially after the loss of her little brother. I told her she's better tread really lightly. Don't get me wrong, she's a good kid, just tells me all the time she never wants any.

WP - GL to you on the O.....go BFP.
Lola- you know I'm praying for you
Alexis - Such a Hooray from me on the BFP!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Iluv- I think you're right about it being the gap. Dd1 was 2 yrs 9 mo when dd2 was born, she doesn't remember life without sisters. ita about the maternal thing too though lol My oldest would make a better mother today at 9 then my bil gf is at 22. I remember one day at the zoo where she ran from stroller to stroller to look at all the babies, I don't think she looked at a single animal lol

Flava-that's got to be tough, I dread the day mine stop being helpful. Don't get me wrong they aren't ubber helpful now but they usually help when asked.

[LolaInLove]

3PNB, glad all went well at the u/s! I am already super excited for 9/23! I just love gender u/s, and it is almost more fun (albeit more of a nail-biter) with us swaying gals. And YES I totally kwym about the fertility gods, LOL. To be honest, it would have eaten me up if they were having a boy. And I think the ex is having massive gd, he has been a huge a-hole lately, trying to make our girls do really boyish stuff, like triathalons and fishing and crap they hate.

Iluv, have they given you any timeline for when they may have an anwer? I am so sorry you are having to deal with that, but just know that the odds of "lightning striking twice" have got to be incredibly slim. xxoo

I am going to become a full-time alcoholic when my DD1 is a teen. She is already full of sass also, even though she is a sweet kid and loves her sister, she is a mad perfectionist and doesn't like it when people crimp her style. She'll be great with a baby now, but I bet she'll be a PITA about it later on. She is a moody kid. Iluv, I would have wanted to beat the fool out of mine if she acted like your oldest at DS2's birth, that would have made me livid. I guess you gotta chalk it up to those teen years and hormones and insecurity and such. I guess I was a bit of a nightmare myself. See, this is why we all want a boy, LOL!!!!

[begonia]

HI!!! I have to go read bunches but figured I'd just start by saying hi. It's been such a crazy day that I'm finally now getting on even though I have been DYING to know about Alexis (saw on the blue crew grad thread!!! yay!!!!) and Jen's scan!

Off to read ...

[begonia]

Alexis YAY YAY YAY! Will you find out or wait?!?!

WP too funny about DH and his hair! He must have it cut short to notice it growing fast. FX you caught the egg this month ... all that EWCM sounds PERFECT for a little boy!

Flava here's hoping DD1 turns it around and becomes a helper; 14 is old enough to do so much but gosh, if you're not even asking her to do much I can't imagine why the attitude. Hormones for sure though. Being a teenage girl is tough. Still! She should be Mama's helper!

3PNB so glad the scan went well; sounds like a FUN little baby you've got in there! Can't wait to know what it is! And how sweet about your DD checking out all the babies at the zoo. That is adorable. My DD1 is a great big sis now, but had no interest in babies (other people's or ours) and I expect she won't care one way or another about the next one til it starts talking. Once DD2 was more of a "person" who could interact with her, DD1 took right to her and has been amazing. But before that she pretty much ignored her, LOL. Better than poking her in the eyes :wink: We were at a friends yesterday with a 6 month baby girl and DD2 was VERY into her, so that was fun... I'm hoping she will like having a baby around. OH and glad the fertility gods smiled on you by giving BIL a girl; FX they smile even bigger to give you your DS!!!

Iluv I get what you're saying about DD still being a good kid in spite of the attitude about siblings. We are who we are, KWIM? And maybe she's just not a kid person. FWIW I was not at all a kid person until maybe college, and even then I didn't think I'd ever want any. I bet you're right, the age gap makes a difference. I'm so sorry there's still so much left unanswered with DS2. Closure would no doubt be such a relief for you. :hugs:

Lola that just sucks that the ex is such a ... eh, why waste the words. Glad your girls have a stepfather who values women so they can learn men aren't all that way. I like the instead cups for you this go 'round! Changing it up can't hurt and those bad boys are a PITA but absolutely can help with conceiving, so I think it's a smart move on your part. WHOO HOO for makin' another May baby!!

AFM my scan is bright and early in the am which is perfect, got a sitter for DD2, DH and I can drop DD1 at school and then get it done. I've got some anxiety but I'll feel sooooo much better after and will post ASAP to let everyone know how it goes! Thanks for all the healthy baby prayers. This group is the best :HH:

[begonia]

Oh, Kris, could just be a mistake on your scan re: the 2nd tri notation. That makes no sense otherwise. Maybe call and ask?

[iluvmyman]

3PNB, glad all went well at the u/s! I am already super excited for 9/23! I just love gender u/s, and it is almost more fun (albeit more of a nail-biter) with us swaying gals. And YES I totally kwym about the fertility gods, LOL. To be honest, it would have eaten me up if they were having a boy. And I think the ex is having massive gd, he has been a huge a-hole lately, trying to make our girls do really boyish stuff, like triathalons and fishing and crap they hate.

Iluv, have they given you any timeline for when they may have an anwer? I am so sorry you are having to deal with that, but just know that the odds of "lightning striking twice" have got to be incredibly slim. xxoo

I am going to become a full-time alcoholic when my DD1 is a teen. She is already full of sass also, even though she is a sweet kid and loves her sister, she is a mad perfectionist and doesn't like it when people crimp her style. She'll be great with a baby now, but I bet she'll be a PITA about it later on. She is a moody kid. Iluv, I would have wanted to beat the fool out of mine if she acted like your oldest at DS2's birth, that would have made me livid. I guess you gotta chalk it up to those teen years and hormones and insecurity and such. I guess I was a bit of a nightmare myself. See, this is why we all want a boy, LOL!!!!

We weren't happy w/ her at all, it was such a shame to have her act that way. I can't say she wouldn't act similar again though. maybe a little better but she's looking at it through very immature and selfish eyes. She was at all of the other kids births and now says how it has traumatized her, which is such crapola.

Teenagers are tough in such a different way then little kids and I would advise as much as possible when they are young (especially those crucial 1st 5 years) to establish your authority and tolerate no back talk or disrespect at all. Don't get caught up in arguing with the either. Of coarse, it's no guarantee they won't pull major attitude but it helps them to know when u mean business, especially when they start challenging you and you can't really back anything up. Your whole parenting way has to change w/ teenagers. All they want is your love and affection and time, but they like have this attitude and mouth and body language that says I hate you (might even outright say that), don't touch me and don't bother me. Then they are so over sensitive and you get to hear about all the ways you don't meet their needs of love, time and affection and how you've wronged them. You just want to pull your hair out or have them move out to grow up and have some experience beyond their self-involved world. I'm pretty intolerant of any back talk or attitude but she still does her darndest to push every button I have. I do regret not making her do consistent chores and learn to do things to the best of her ability all the time no matter what.

Lola, I'm not sure we'll ever know. Its possible that the coroner won't talk to us because they might pursue a case against our doula or he is just really really busy. The coroner plain won't return my calls and you don't want to push too much cuz you're hoping the case will just go away against our doula. We have to rely on internet searches and guess work. We could also pay I guess for an independent examination of the findings to get some more info but will probably be a lot of money, I don't know where to start and my DH doesn't want to know any more. In case we were at fault or could have saved him I guess. That info is just going to hurt us I guess and not help so he doesn't want me to pursue anymore and stir the pot so to speak.

It's such a crappy place to be, but I tell you I'm very thankful for this new one growing as it adds some hope and joy. Fear too. Don't get me wrong I'm not wallowing in self pity at all, but I wish I believed in the lightning theory but it's a sinful broken world and it can happen. The hope of coarse is that it doesn't. I also had to realize(i still break down at times though) that any one of us could be taken at anytime and I have to relinquish that control. My brother died of a brain bleed at like 30. You just never know.

Anyway, I'm like a big downer today. :) Sorry 3PNB that the little one didn't cooperate for you today but another U/S is around the corner. Yay!

My DS1 is so sweet w/ the babies like that too. He's just always loved babies and took DS2's death the hardest out of the kids. DH let me have this one partly because it's so important to DS1. He just has a gentle spirit and way different like that then my other ones. I got pregnant too w/ DS1 when DD2 was 19 months. She pretty much ignored him when he was born and he just has always been. DS1 will actually be kind of a pain when this 1 is born cuz he'll be all lovingly up in his business and bugging the baby all the time. We'll figure it out, its better then him resenting and DD2 will probably ignore the new baby for the most part. Dynamics are so funny.

[TTC5]

Alexis congrats!!!!!


AFM - have had a rough day today and need some prayers that everything is going to be ok. Found a large lesion on dd's scalp... took her to dr today and 3 different drs checked it over and they said it looks like a ketosis but they have never seen a child with this before. It has literally appeared and grown in less than gosh, 5 months. We have been referred to a specialist for Monday to rule out anything sinister. Please pray for her, she is only 8. I am terrified :'(

[Plum3]

Arrgggh, ladies I am having trouble keeping up with you all these days. Still reading along though :)

Alexis, congratulations!! Awesome news.

TTC5, your daughter and family are in my thoughts. I can't imagine how scared you must be. Do you mean keratosis?

[TTC5]

I am not sure how it is spelt sorry something to do with solar spots?

[ELP]

Just wanted to say a quick hi everyone xxx Snowed under with the gang home to properly read and post atm but just sending luck and bfp's tou you all this month, Lola and Flava have defo got hopeful! feelings about you two this coming cycle!!!!!!!!!!! Catch up personally asap ok xxxx

Congrats Alexis, woohoo xxxxxxxx

[Alexis2007]

FRER 10dpo
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I am concerned that it's so faint still. Is that normal for 10dpo BFP??? Please someone tell me it is! I could tell that my urine didn't look as concentrated as yesterday.

[Alexis2007]

Begonia-I will TOTALLY be finding out gender!!! I am a planner! If it's a boy, I will be repainting the nursery from pink to BLUE! DH will have to know too.

Now my worries are setting in. Like what if it doesn't stick? What if it's a chemical? Ugh! Nothing can be easy can it? I think I will feel better once I miss my period.

LOL.....I already told my DDs about it. My oldest is excited and my youngest still feels like she's my baby (she is of course). I just asked DD1 to count how many lines she saw on the hpt, she said, "Two! Does that mean you're having 2 babies?!" LOL She's not quite 5 yet. She's my funny one.

[Flava]

My 16 year old is the same way. I think some kids are just more maternal then others. DD1 sees the other kids as an inconvenience really, that messed up her life. there was a 9 year age gap and it didn't bode well for her to "lose" her parents attention. She refused to see DS2's birth and was full of attitude. We have 1 picture w/ her in the room after he was born looking like a sour puss. I don't think she ever held him. She's not happy about this pregnancy either, which it just so incredibly sad to me. Especially after the loss of her little brother. I told her she's better tread really lightly. Don't get me wrong, she's a good kid, just tells me all the time she never wants any.

WP - GL to you on the O.....go BFP.
Lola- you know I'm praying for you
Alexis - Such a Hooray from me on the BFP!!!

Same here DD1 is 6 years older the DD2 and she don't like her at all! And she can be so mean to the others. Yeah very nice...
It's not like she don't have to help out she just don't want to plus omg she is lazy. And they can't do acting up and talking back here we are not like that .But if I don't tell her to come do this and that she just on the phone , computer , Upad and so on.

[Flava]

Alexis congrats!!!!!


AFM - have had a rough day today and need some prayers that everything is going to be ok. Found a large lesion on dd's scalp... took her to dr today and 3 different drs checked it over and they said it looks like a ketosis but they have never seen a child with this before. It has literally appeared and grown in less than gosh, 5 months. We have been referred to a specialist for Monday to rule out anything sinister. Please pray for her, she is only 8. I am terrified :'(

OMG OMG I really hope it's nothing serious! poor baby:hugs:I really dont know what is that but hope they can take care of it , fast.:pray:

[Flava]

Hi ELP!!
Alexis- for 10 dpo that's a normal line ! Some ppl dont get any at 10 dpo so it ok!

[begonia]

Oh TTC5 I can imagine how scared you are, poor Mama!!! Definitely will be praying for her. Please do keep us posted, big BIG hugs to you and her right now. When is the next appointment? Soon I hope.

Alexis, you're TOTALLY PREGNANT!!!! Whoooo hooooo! Try not to fret much; think positive and nourish that bean. Did you have any ms with the girls? FX you have none this time around! Can't believe you told them, LOL! I still haven't told mine. Still have a flat belly, once I start showing I'll tell.

My appointment today was FAB!!! Super wiggly little one, loved loved loved seeing that. No nub that I could see which made me super happy; I'm really cool with a surprise so don't want to be obsessing. DH got to come and we both left with just the stupidest grins because there's nothing like seeing the baby, and I know you all know what I mean. So far the measurements point towards a normally developing babe so that is great too! And I totally heart my OB. We were just chatting and at one point DH referred to the baby as "she" and the OB was like "already planning on a girl, huh? You never know! I see opposites all the time!" which was sweet. And then he also said "but of course my wife is the youngest of 4 girls, so that happens too!" LOL. I'm just so thankful that right now I really don't have a preference. I really hope that sticks around because it is a great feeling... my prayers for this baby all along were that it would be the perfect fit for our family (I didn't ask for a boy bc I figured God knows that anyway, LOL!), and that we would feel OK with either gender, and I feel good that both of those will come true.

Oh my Flava I just saw you're 7 DPO, so you're getting to be like 3 weeks out from your attempt?!?!

[LolaInLove]

Hey everyone! I hope no one minds my giant solo posts....I find it clogs up the thread less and I just jot notes down so I don't forget. I am a huge nerd.

3PNB, I totally loved that book. LMAO sort of read. Def recommend. I also loved "Inconceivable" by Julia Indichova, it was beautifully written and talks about her successful quest to beat the odds and her sky high FSH and conceive naturally. She went from being like 40 with an FSH so high that every IVF clinic in town wouldn't touch her unless she used donor eggs to conceiving her child naturally 8 months later. She changed her body with food and yoga and mental attitude. VERY inspirational to those who are dealing with infertility. It's what made me want to just take all the healthy supps and eat a more high-nutrient diet as opposed to the high-sodium, etc.

Begonia, SWEEET girl, glad your scan was lovely! I hear you about not wanting to obsess....again, I say, you are the epitome of calm, cool, and collected swayer. So nice that you love your OB also, that is great!!!

Iluv, you are so right on about teens, and teaching children from the get-go about who's in charge. I bet you are a fantastic mom! And know what, I do see a very valid point in not wanting to know any more about what happened with DS2. It may be better to just chalk it up to awful circumstance than know it was some thing that you will forever obsess about going wrong. Do you guys want to sue your doula? Seemed to me from your post that you didn't want to....will the State automatically do so in a case like that? I am SO glad you are feeling hope and joy from this new bean, and keeping you in my thoughts and prayers for a perfect pregnancy and delivery.

That goes for all of you, really!!!!

And TTC5, with your girl for sure! I hope all is OK!!! How scary......will def be thinking about you, hun. XOXOXOXOXO

ELP, hope you have fun all snowed in and dont' get cabin fever, LOL! Thank you for the luv!

Alexis, A LINE IS A LINE AND MEANS YOU ARE PG! Don't worry about the darkness.....like everyone said, that kind of line on a 10dpo FRER is perfect. Don't worry about that at all! Congrats again!

Flava, LOL I hate those ICs but I think you are right, they are a good addition again for me at this point. Can't wait till you start ttc....

As for moi: I am ovulating today! Send me some preggo vibes, ladies! Thankfully, we have been dtd every other day, and tonight is our "on" night anyway, so planning on doing the whole 9 again. I REEEEEAAAAAALLLLLYYYYYY want a May baby also, it would be perfect timing for our family and my job!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- sucks your ex is being a jerk to your girls, glad they have your dh to love them girls and all. We've yet to talk to bil but I'll bet he's none to happy either. I'm afraid if we have a boy they will try again despite having any way to support these kids. Such a train wreck.
Yay for Oing today, sending all my baby dust your way!!

B- my girls are all way into little ones, but I'm afraid I'm this time will be different if we hear blue.
I say this with love but screw you and your flat belly :bigsmile: I'm huge I'll post a pic later.
So glad your little one put on a show, so much nicer then a peaceful babe! FX your lack of preference remains. I was doing great till a few weeks ago now my heart screams "it's a boy". Unreliable piece of crap Lol It's even worse now knowing bil is having a girl and exactly when we'll be finding out.
TTC5- positive thoughts and love to you and your dd :hug2:

Alexis- that's a great bfp for 10dpo! I love finding out early but hate the wait till af arr, it somehow deosnt feel real till you're good and late.


Told the girls when we'd be finding out and dd1 burst into tears, there isn't a doubt in her mind it's a boy and she doesnt want a little brother. I have a friend who had a girl and then 4 boys, if it is a boy and she's still upset I think I'll recruit her for help. Her sons are very sweet and well behaved so I hope her daughter will tell mine good stories about having brothers. This is going to be a very long 29 days (not that I'm counting lol) if she cries every time anyone says anything. Secretly dh and I are thrilled she's so sure, she's never been wrong!:fami01:

[3Pink1Blue]

Here's my bfp, frer @ 12 dpo. Hope this makes you feel more confident that your line is great!
511

[LolaInLove]

LMAO @3PNB- I will be huge also! You are a lucky chick, B! I was in mat clothes by 12 wks with #2, and I am *normally* a flat belly workout freak. Um, fast forward to now, when I already look pg, so when I am actually pg, I'll be in the mat clothes by 6 wks. Post a pic, 3! I am sure your oldest will get over it. I'm sure you've thought of this, but maybe you could make her the Chief Helper and let her do some special stuff that only she gets to do with you in regards to picking out stuff for the baby and shopping, ykwim. This is going to be a long 29 days for ALL OF US! It'll be the first u/s on GD for our crew, yea?

[begonia]

Yay for O day Lola! And even better that it's time to DTD again anyway; I think the every 48 is great for TTC boy. ~~~~~PREGO VIBES!!! ~~~~~

I think we're going to have a LOT of May babies ladies!

3PNB I do wonder if when we get closer to actually having this LO if I will care more ... it won't surprise me if that happens but I'm sure as heck hoping I can stay in this happy place. I would totally be getting my hopes up given your DD's accuracy rate with the guessing! I think it is entirely possible she can be picking something up from you ... so fun! It really is unreal that you'll find out so soon.... I feel like you and Babydes (and me for that matter) JUST got our BFPs.

Oh and my flat belly is really a freak of nature thing. Even my OB today was joking about it and calling me the baby hider. I'll post a pic when I start showing ... it really is crazy, I don't know where my babies tuck themselves.

So one of my totally awesome friends is done having kids and is giving me her bugaboo stroller, how cool is that?!? It's orange, which I love. Super fun!

[begonia]

Anyone think of a fun way to tell our parents? We still haven't told them bc we wanted to come up with a cute idea... which, for us, means it'll be like 3 more months before we say anything bc we can't think of a fun way! Both live out of town. Last time we had DD1 make a video that we put on you tube of her saying "I'm going to be a big sister! Everything will change!" LOL... she wasn't told to say "everything will change" but she was soooo right!

[LolaInLove]

Oh nice on the free stroller, B! Those are super expensive, too! I wish I had your luck with babies hiding....my uterus seems to get enormous and hard and spill out over my pelvis immediately. I have one of those low, scary out-there bellies that really freaks people out and makes them feel the need to say idiotic shit like "You're huge! Are there 2 in there? Don't give birth right here! Can I touch that?" LOL

Thank you for the vibes! :HH: I am a bit nervous. I want to yell at DH's sack "PLEASE DO YOUR JOB AND IMPREGNATE ME!"

[LolaInLove]

Anyone think of a fun way to tell our parents? We still haven't told them bc we wanted to come up with a cute idea... which, for us, means it'll be like 3 more months before we say anything bc we can't think of a fun way! Both live out of town. Last time we had DD1 make a video that we put on you tube of her saying "I'm going to be a big sister! Everything will change!" LOL... she wasn't told to say "everything will change" but she was soooo right!

Hmmm, the video is pretty cute and hard to top! When I had DD2, I got a little plain white tee for DD1 and got some colored fabric markers and wrote on the front "Big Sister, March 2005" (which was the due date month) and on the back, I wrote, "That's right. Mommy's pregnant." When my Dh got home (the ex), he saw that and that was my way of telling him. But, I took a pic of her in the shirt and mailed it in a card to my folks, and my Mom said it was totally cute when they got it. They called me immediately, of course. But you don't get to see their reaction, I guess, but they are out of town anyway, right?

[Flava]

begonia- not even one little pic for us?? No nub ok but I love to see cute baby's! Im happy everything is ok !

[Flava]

Lola- I can't take notes DD4 takes away every pen from me LOL so i have to do it this way.

Aha it's O day for you! Let's make that boy! Lot's of preggo vibes for you!!!

[Flava]

Told the girls when we'd be finding out and dd1 burst into tears, there isn't a doubt in her mind it's a boy and she doesnt want a little brother. I have a friend who had a girl and then 4 boys, if it is a boy and she's still upset I think I'll recruit her for help. Her sons are very sweet and well behaved so I hope her daughter will tell mine good stories about having brothers. This is going to be a very long 29 days (not that I'm counting lol) if she cries every time anyone says anything. Secretly dh and I are thrilled she's so sure, she's never been wrong!

She is so right this must be your boy!!! It's sad that she cries like that...would make me sad for sure. Oh I can't even think of what mine DD1 is going to do if I get pregnant...
But you know when she see the new baby she will love him for sure.

[Flava]

Lola-same for me I don't want to tell if I get pregnant for the kids but Im already fat I do look pregnant:mad:
DD3 started the same school where DD2 was and same teacher and Im sure she thinks Im fat because back then I was a lot smaller!

I just hope I can hide it from the kids fot a couple months !

[Flava]

begonia- you are so lucky already getting presents lol
Im totally on the other site , I never had a baby shower I never got anything from anyone .Had to buy everything alone for all my babys. Must be nice to get stuff.

No clue on how to tell to your parents . I also never did things like that.

[Flava]

Oh my Flava I just saw you're 7 DPO, so you're getting to be like 3 weeks out from your attempt?!?!
What??? I only have 3 weeks left? omg I have to get a lot better on this.
Im thinking I don't do the diet as good as others .Maybe I need more veggie or so...and maybe have to start on some more drink and just in all others do a lot better for sure.aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Alexis2007]

3Pink-that pic does make me feel better. Thank you so much!! I had some major cm just now. MAJOR!!! Wow!!

TTC5-thoughts and prayers for your daughter and family. I hope it is nothing serious!

Begonia-I told my girls because I am very honest with them. DD1 knows I want another baby. She keeps telling me she wants 2 baby boys. Which would be awesome but I do tell her we will get what God gives us and she might even get another sister :) Only other person I told is my sister. She won't tell anyone as she lives all the way in Maryland. We actually are going to see her in the middle of September.

So, any of you in the path of Hurricane Irene? Lola don't you live in North Carolina or close to it? It's looking pretty rough from what they're showing on tv. I'm a weather fanatic. I love it! We were very close to the April 27th tornado outbreak. It was scary. Missed my Mom's house by less than a mile.

[Flava]

Hey girls ! I took mucinex this cycle to help with ewcm but I think it did nothing. So should I bother with it next month or drop it? Is this suppose to work for cm right away or need more then 1 cycle?:think:

[Alexis2007]

Flava-it should help within a few days I'd say. How much did you take per day?

[LolaInLove]

Yea, Flava, I agree with Alexis, should work fairly soon....maybe take some more?

Alexis, I am the same way with my kids. They know ALL about this whole journey for me, everything except exactly how the babies are made, LOL. They think the egg in my body just turns into a baby or it doesn't. I hate telling them something that is untrue, but I just can't deal with the sex talk at 9 and 6. They know all about periods and tampons and why you have a period and mestrual cycles and have even watched birth videos on youtube and tv with me. They are on the fence about whether they would want to be there and watch, but I would love them to. I think it would make me calm down during labor if they were there also....no screaming F*&K like I did last time, LOL. (Funny side story: I met a lady in the peds office with her baby when DD2 was 6 months old....we discovered they were born on the same day and at the same hospital....she says, yea, there was some lady screaming her freaking head off, and I smile THAT WAS ME......what are the odds?) Anyway, that's my style....my girls go with me to buy FRERs and even watch me take them, they think it's cool. I let them "read" them. My philosophy is that they are A) learning about how the female body works and won't be freaked out when they have their periods or are learning about sex and birth and stuff, and B) they are learning that sometimes, life doesn't work out just the way you had planned. Sometimes, you gotta just have some perseverance and keep your spirits high despite adversity. I hope they learn from my example with this ttc stuff. And when we do have a baby, it will be a total experience for them, from A to Z, ya know?

Flava, LOL....you are gonna be FINE!!!! You need to go into DD's room and find all of those pens!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- I don't think she's picked up anything from us, dh and I have been very careful about the way we talk around them and have said with each baby what if it's a boy. We don't want them to think we were in any way disappointed by them. W/dd3 we kept saying it could be a boy but she was steadfast she was a girl. We've been really lucky never having had to deal with sibling jealousy or had any kind of new baby issues. It's definitly going to be a struggle and I know once the baby gets here she'll be in love but the 20 wks of grumpy before that will suck but yet here We are hoping to break her heart lol
I say go for it, pep talk those spermies!

B - I think the more swayers that hear boy the harder it'll be for you for you to wait and not care lol ooh baby could be finding out soon! Woohoo for the free Bugaboo! We suck at fun ways to share, we tend to just blurt it out lol

Flava- she's thrilled I'm pregnant just horrified at the thought of a jerk of a little brother. I've tried to convince her our little brother would be sweet like her sisters but she doesn't seem to think it's possible lol
The mucinex didn't do a lot for me but I noticed it pretty quickly, w/in a few hours.

Alexis- glad that helped, it's scary when everyone has deep dark bf's and yours isn't. I still have crazy amounts of cm, it's like it never shut off after ovulating. It's kinda gross actually lol


Well ladies I spent my afternoon at the lab, apparently between my several pregnancies and being over thirty (sure my extra lbs didn't help either) they sent me for a gestational diabetes test along with my regular labs. They tell me it's their new standard practice since you don't process sugar as well the older you get. Nothing like drinking the evil orange and then sitting there, fetus going nuts, waiting for them to stick you. I had dd3 with me so we brought the iPad and watched Despicable Me while we waited. Fun part is I get to do it again at 28 wks :(

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- I've been lucky on not having the "how babies are made" talk either. Dd1 was there when dd3 was born and they've all seen their births on tape several times. They love it, definitely want them all there this time. It's funny though, they know where babies come out of but have never asked how they get in there lol.
I take them to the gyno with me, dd2 even watched my pap one year. The only reason we keep pregnancies from them is because we don't want them blabbing lol

[LolaInLove]

I hear ya, 3pnb! Kids are blabbers, for sure. I told my girls that we were going to keep it a family secret until we all decided to tell people, but mums is still a good thing. I don't talk about swaying or wanting it to be a boy, of course, but my girls do want a brother. My oldest said, "Don't you want a boy? Wouldn't it be nice to have boy and girl kids?" Intuitive, no? But I do tell them that I'd love to have another girl, I just want a healthy baby and they get that.

Anyway, gotta go BD!!!! Talk to you all on the flip-flop!

[begonia]

Begonia-I told my girls because I am very honest with them. DD1 knows I want another baby. She keeps telling me she wants 2 baby boys. Which would be awesome but I do tell her we will get what God gives us and she might even get another sister :) Only other person I told is my sister. She won't tell anyone as she lives all the way in Maryland. We actually are going to see her in the middle of September.


Oh gosh, I'm not going to lie to my kids about it, LOL! I'm totally honest with them (except when it's 108 outside and they want to go to the zoo, and I have to lie and say it's closed :wink:) ... if DD1 asked me if I'm pg I'd say yes. But given that she started kindy 4 days ago, and is moving to a new house in 6 weeks, I'm choosing to parcel out big changes in small doses. I'm sure we all do what we feel is best for our kids. But I don't think I'm being dishonest to not tell them about the baby at this time.

Flava I will totally post a pic, of course! I'll have to scan it in but I'll do that tonight or tomorrow for sure! It's totally a cute baby :bigsmile: FWIW I didn't think Mucinex did a ton for me. I took it the cycle I got pg but didn't notice a dramatic change. The most dramatic change for me was definitely from the EPO.

Jen I have to do the early GD test too at my next appointment, 16 weeks. They blamed mine on having an over 9lb baby last time. So I get 16 and 28 weeks tests too. Good call on bringing the iPad! And gosh, knowing you're going to find out I want you to find out NOW, lol! The waiting is hard!

Lola I think it is super cool that your girls are getting to see some of your TTC journey up close and personal. I bet it will make them all the more attached to that sweet baby when it arrives! I like the shirt with the photo idea! I think I'll get one of DD1's old big sister shirts out and put it on DD2, and take her picture in it holding the u/s photo... then pop that in the mail :cool:

[begonia]

Ok let me see if I can get my pic to post...

[TTC5]

omg begonia that is such a cool pic looks at its little legs bent how cute!!!!

[TTC5]

Thanks for the well wishes guys, we go to a specialist Monday x KUP.

[3Pink1Blue]

Awe hello tiny person, great pic B!

[Alexis2007]

Begonia-I hope you didn't take offense to what I said!! I totally didn't mean I thought you're lying to your kids! I think it is fine that you are waiting till the right moment. I know lots of people wait. I just meant that DD1 has known all along about us wanting another baby so it was just natural for me to tell her. Hoping she doesn't blab it to anyone else yet. At least till AF is late.

Love your ultrasound pic!!! Already a cutie pie!

[Alexis2007]

Lola-you sound like me. I can never go to the restroom by myself and DD1 always asks why my pee pee is red. LOL!!! I haven't figured out how to explain that to her yet. I guess I'll have a while to think about it now that I (hopefully) won't have AF for a while.

[jane]

hi all, we are back from our break and feeling much better after my chemical. will start trying again in a month, so many pages have passed so ive only looked back on a few! begonia,such a cute picture,is everything going ok? congrats alexis! and ttc5,hope your dd is ok. well, im off to take my morning folic acid and epo! if you shake me i'll rattle!

[3Pink1Blue]

Alexis- dd3 came in once while I was changing my pad and asked why my panties were poopie lol I told her when you're a mommy sometimes you bleed, it doesn't hurt and only last a few days. It's a good thing it means you can have babies. This simple explanation bought me about 5 or so years, by the time she asked again she was plenty old enough to understand. I've used the same explanation with the other two, it seems to satisfy :)

Jane - glad you're back and feeling better, fx for your next attempt.

[Alexis2007]

3Pink-I'll have to remember that next time she asks. She has often asked me why I have a big bandaid in my panties...lol. I say, it's just something mommies go through, you'll find out when you get older lol. If I'm wearing a tampon, I don't let her in the bathroom with me. I'm not ready to explain why I'm putting something in my tootie (her words). Oh I dread the birds and the bees talk.

She's also asked me HOW the baby comes out of my tummy. So I showed her my c-section scar and told her the doctor cut my belly open and pulled her out. She asked if it hurt. I said no the doctor gave me medicine. She said I don't want the doctor to cut my belly. I said well maybe you won't have to have your tummy cut. The baby can come out of your tootie too. OMG You should have seen the look on her face!! She looked horrified!! She said, NO! I don't want any babies!! lol

[3Pink1Blue]

Yeah I'm for simple answers that aren't entirely false. Mine don't see the tamoon exchange either, they are way to far from doing that. Dd1 is 9 1/2 and we've talked puberty but not sex or reproduction. Dh has been teaching them since they could talk no babies (meaning sex) till marriage and no marriage till after collage. This is obviously partially unrealistic but I dread the real conversation too lol

[Princess of Pink]

OMG B...that looks like a real baby already!! Not like a weird alien like most earlier u/s....super cute!!

[Princess of Pink]

My girls all know where the baby comes out....it's usually a funny conversation really lol

[Flava]

Ok let me see if I can get my pic to post...

Ok that's a boy right there for sure !And look how cute he is !:bigsmile::agree:

[Flava]

Im tired why Im always so sleepy??
Ok look like mucinex is not the best. I can't buy EPO now Im taking fertile cm but also this don't help my cm...anyway because I did not try the epo I don't want to start it on the month I try.

[LolaInLove]

BEGONIA, what a cute little baby! LOVE the pic!!! It's so amazing how they can go from a ball of cells to that in 10 weeks!

And for the record, since I was talking about my super open relationship with my girls, I don't at all think that is what every parent should do. It's really up to everyone and every situation. Begonia, I think you are doing a good thing and not springing everything on them at once, that is smart. Speaking of parenting, have you guys heard of the book "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother" or something like that? My sister was telling me she read it at a book club, but since she has no kids, she didn't know what I'd think.

Alexis, LMAO at your kid's face when you said some babies come out the "tootie!" That is a cute word! Mine say Va-JJ or hoo-ha. One time, when my oldest was about 4, she told me that "Daddy has a funny vagina." One of my favorites in the baby book.

I am not really excited about the sex talk either, but I'd rather them hear the scoop from me than some punk ass kids at school. I also don't want them growing up thinking it's dirty or bad, just that it's something special you only do with someone very special. POLL: Did your parents tell you to wait for marriage and then admit that they had sex before marriage themselves? I worry about that because I don't want them to think I'm a hypocrite, and I'd rather have an open relationship with them to where if they have a serious high school boyfriend, they would come to me and ask me questions about being safe and talk about their feelings about it than hide it. What do you guys think?

OK, as for me: 1dpo! C'mon May baby! SO SO SO hoping this month's change ups helped. I am super excited that my every other day bd plan worked perfectly to where we bd on O-2 and then O. Both times I did preseed and an instead cup all night, so FXFXFX! I am really tired of this all. Oddly, I felt REALLY weird this morning, like nauseated almost, and the icky stairwell we have to use right now because our elevator is broken smelled especially like ass this morning. Who knows.

TTC5, how is your daughter???? xxoo

[LolaInLove]

Im tired why Im always so sleepy??
Ok look like mucinex is not the best. I can't buy EPO now Im taking fertile cm but also this don't help my cm...anyway because I did not try the epo I don't want to start it on the month I try.

THE HEAT! That's why I'm always tired! FertileCm did nothing for me also. Maybe just use preseed and don't freak about your cm too much!

[Flava]

Im going to use some EW for sure .Just hoep I also have some ewcm and don't have to do it on creamy or so.

[Alexis2007]

Lola-I don't know how I'm going to approach the sex before marriage thing either. I don't want to lie to my kids, but I also want them to wait till marriage. God knows I sure wish I did!!! Maybe we can just tell them about our mistakes and hope they learn from them? That's the part I'm dreading the most!!! I don't recall my parents (my Mom) talking to me about sex until I was already doing it. I do want my kids to tell me their feelings and come to me with questions/advice. I guess just do what we think is right as far as that goes and pray that they listen to us!

[LolaInLove]

ITA Alexis about telling them about our mistakes and hoping they learn from that also. Good way to look at it!

[LolaInLove]

hi all, we are back from our break and feeling much better after my chemical. will start trying again in a month, so many pages have passed so ive only looked back on a few! begonia,such a cute picture,is everything going ok? congrats alexis! and ttc5,hope your dd is ok. well, im off to take my morning folic acid and epo! if you shake me i'll rattle!

Hey Jane! Glad to have you back and awesome to hear that you are feeling better. Nothing like getting back in the saddle to make you feel optimistic. FX you get a sticky little bean soon, hun!

[begonia]

Ok that's a boy right there for sure !And look how cute he is !:bigsmile::agree:

LOL! Love that :highfive:

Thanks for all the comments on my baby pic everyone :HH:

Jane! Glad to see you back love. Hope you're feeling good ready to tackle this TTC business, FX you get a sticky blue bean very soon.

Interesting Q Lola! I was raised by wolves so clearly no sex talk for me :rofl: I saw more than I needed to see of my mom's bad choices so I figured out pretty quickly that sex out of wedlock was not going to get me anywhere I wanted to go. I think you're right to want an open enough relationship that even if they know their choice isn't what you would choose for them, they feel comfortable talking to you about it. I think that is the ideal parent/child relationship. How to get there is the challenge :shrug:

OH and ITA the heat is contributing to the sleepy feeling. Flava did you have EWCM when you swayed for DD4? Just curious to know if you were able to achieve it then.

Read a review on "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother" but haven't read the book; I think it would be interesting. From what I've heard though reading the actual book shows you that she isn't as crazy as some of the excerpts make her out to be. I might pick it up.

My girls haven't asked about where the baby comes out or any of the period stuff yet ... but when they do I'm with you Jen, give them an honest answer that is verrrrry basic. DD1 did ask me about boobs though :bigsmile: She said she doesn't want any. I told her that with our genetics she probably won't have too much to worry about, LOL!

Oh and Lola I sometimes got nauseated around my O day; maybe the extra sensitivity is due to that? Or you're pg :bigsmile: I was 5 dpo when I started feeling sick with this one so sure 1 dpo is early ... but I'm keeping my FX!!!!

[cemas]

Congrats Alexsis:) FX for u Lola....i understand ur frustration...as for me cd35 and yet no O :(

That was awonderful pic begonia.thanks for posting.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - I love how open you are with your girls but agree it's not for everyone. I answer questions as they come up but that's about it, gotta remedy that as dd1 has the maturation program at school and I don't want her to learn anything there if you kwim. My mom was always open about sex but never mentioned when to have it lol She more pushed be safe then don't do it, we never talked about her having sex till I was in my 20's. I'll tell my girls when/if they ask about me, I won't offer it up but if they ask I'll stick to my policy of honesty. I'm hoping dh pushing wait till marriage will sink in to some level though lol I plan to push make it special, don't let anyone talk you into to anything, be safe blah, blah, blah. I too want my girls come to me, I'd rather buy them b/c then be a grandma or find out they have something horrible.
1dpo!! woohoo, come on baby!

B- my girls have asked about boobs too, dd1 wants em bad lol She's quite frustrated that there is no specific date on this boobs/period thing. I hate that girls are getting it at 10/11, scares the sh*t out of me. dh and I joke it's a great reason to keep our girls lean.

Fyi for those that not familiar dd won't get her period till she has enough body fat to sustain a pregnancy. Girls are getting fatter and fatter therefor causing af earlier and earlier which has triggered boys to mature earlier and earlier as well. In area's of high childhood obesity both boys and girls are reaching puberty at alarmingly early ages. It's not the hormones in milk or meat like is commonly thought. I'm not saying starve your daughters but if they maintains a healthy weight development will occur a little later on when she's better capable to deal with it. Whew off my soapbox lol

Cemas- wow that sucks, do you always O so late? I know you're smart and stalking that egg but is there any chance you missed it?

Today is dd2's VIP in school. We made a poster about her, I get to go into class to talk about how special she is and bring a treat. I love and hate these days, how do you tell 6 yo why your kid is extra great lol

[Hobbermittens]

Alexis, I am the same way with my kids. They know ALL about this whole journey for me, everything except exactly how the babies are made, LOL. They think the egg in my body just turns into a baby or it doesn't. I hate telling them something that is untrue, but I just can't deal with the sex talk at 9 and 6. They know all about periods and tampons and why you have a period and mestrual cycles and have even watched birth videos on youtube and tv with me. They are on the fence about whether they would want to be there and watch, but I would love them to. I think it would make me calm down during labor if they were there also....no screaming F*&K like I did last time, LOL. (Funny side story: I met a lady in the peds office with her baby when DD2 was 6 months old....we discovered they were born on the same day and at the same hospital....she says, yea, there was some lady screaming her freaking head off, and I smile THAT WAS ME......what are the odds?) Anyway, that's my style....my girls go with me to buy FRERs and even watch me take them, they think it's cool. I let them "read" them. My philosophy is that they are A) learning about how the female body works and won't be freaked out when they have their periods or are learning about sex and birth and stuff, and B) they are learning that sometimes, life doesn't work out just the way you had planned. Sometimes, you gotta just have some perseverance and keep your spirits high despite adversity. I hope they learn from my example with this ttc stuff. And when we do have a baby, it will be a total experience for them, from A to Z, ya know?


I think it is great you are so open with your kids! My daughter asked me how the baby got into my tummy when I was pregnant with DD2. SHe was almost 6 at the time, so I told her--all of it. She made a face, and said, "I am NEVER doing that. It's GROSS!" Ha, I will remind her she said that she is a mother!

[Hobbermittens]

Ok let me see if I can get my pic to post...

WHat a cute little baby! Looks like a boy to me! :wink:

[Flava]

begonia- I did have lot's of ewcm with DD4 but from what I don't remember. And now I have no time and money to change my sups. I try to drink more but I hate that too when you have to hold pee to test.:sigh:

[lightofmylife]

Good Luck Lola :) , u know i specially prayed for u and my sil (brother's wife) to get preg yesterday while fasting , they dont have baby and TTC for 4 years :( ,we have a sacred night tonight so ill pray again , i Soooooooooooo hope this is ur month , amin, i really can feel ur pain .
alexis .... congratsssss girl :)
Begonia ... awwwww sooo cute lil baby :)
3PNB .... i was soo hoping to see ur nub pics :) , im sure ur girl is rightttt.

[Flava]

cemas- sorry about O .Your cycles are always this long or it is just now?

omg Im sooooosleepy! I want to take a nap...but can't school bus is coming soon. And I have to start cooking dinner soon.eh I don't want to I really just can fall a sleep right now!:sleeping:

[cemas]

i do have long cycles, but the latest i have Oed naturally has be cd30. So this one is a lil off...the only thing different is i was very stressed about something last 2-3 weeks...better now.
its frustrating to have long cyles and then not conceive easily too......actually am beyond frustration!
i try to not post much as i want to keep this grp +ve away from my sadness...

it sure feels nice hearing abt peole being successful and happy and so i do pop in to try to keep up with all the good news.

[LolaInLove]

Cemas, I made a thread on the infertility forum that you can post depressing stuff in, it's kinda for that..."TTC Over a Year Thread." But I know how you feel. I think you need to get on Clomid, Cemas! Have you taken that before? I know you've taken fert meds before when you cycled. You need something to jump start your ov, girl.

Hobber, LOL at your DD's reaction to the "everything" talk! I'm gathering you told her about the weiner in the tootie, too!

Light, thank you so much, you are so sweet! I appreciate your prayers, hun. How are you doing?

3PNB, I totally agree....most people think the early periods is because of hormones in animal products (which is not a good thing anyway) but you are exactly right about the increase in childhood obesity leading to earlier periods. I tend to think there might be a correlation as well, because a lot of the obese kids are eating a ton of McD's and such with crap meat full of growth hormone. Another excellent reason to feed your children well! Could you even imagine a 12 year old with a child? One of my gf here is a teacher and she has 2 girls in her freshman class that have 2 YEAR OLDS and one is pg again!!!! They are 14! I know it's happening at 10 and 11 in some cases even. SCARY. Totally scary.

[Alexis2007]

3PNB, I totally agree....most people think the early periods is because of hormones in animal products (which is not a good thing anyway) but you are exactly right about the increase in childhood obesity leading to earlier periods. I tend to think there might be a correlation as well, because a lot of the obese kids are eating a ton of McD's and such with crap meat full of growth hormone. Another excellent reason to feed your children well! Could you even imagine a 12 year old with a child? One of my gf here is a teacher and she has 2 girls in her freshman class that have 2 YEAR OLDS and one is pg again!!!! They are 14! I know it's happening at 10 and 11 in some cases even. SCARY. Totally scary.

That is totally crazy Lola!!! What are these parents letting their kids do at those ages?!? My girls ****WILL NOT**** be alone with a boy at that age! And for it to happen TWICE!!! Oh nooooo way!!! That just boils my blood!! OMG