Aug 2WW

[twointow83]

I had those pains too. I call it lightning crotch. Lmao

B♡K♡G♡L

"lightning crotch" :rofl: I'll have to remember that!

[Laurenk1424]

"lightning crotch" :rofl: I'll have to remember that!

It's a real thing! Haha that's what lots of sights call it. It's mostly when you're in the 3rd trimester and it usually is really painful.
In other news- I feel nauseated.... Really nauseated. I'm telling yall, if AF shows I will be so shocked but that's how tww works. Always plays games w our hearts.


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[XXforhubby]

It's a real thing! Haha that's what lots of sights call it. It's mostly when you're in the 3rd trimester and it usually is really painful.
In other news- I feel nauseated.... Really nauseated. I'm telling yall, if AF shows I will be so shocked but that's how tww works. Always plays games w our hearts.


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I had plenty of BFN cycles like that [emoji20]. My BFP cycle has zero classic symptoms. I only had extreme forgetfulness that I chalked up to stress.

FX for you!! At least these symptoms mean great progesterone production, which mean BFP now or in the near future!!!


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[twointow83]

It's a real thing! Haha that's what lots of sights call it. It's mostly when you're in the 3rd trimester and it usually is really painful.
In other news- I feel nauseated.... Really nauseated. I'm telling yall, if AF shows I will be so shocked but that's how tww works. Always plays games w our hearts.


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Well, :fx: it's not a psych-out cycle for you ( I HATE those with a passion!). What DPO are you again? You are testing tomorrow right??

[Laurenk1424]

Well, :fx: it's not a psych-out cycle for you ( I HATE those with a passion!). What DPO are you again? You are testing tomorrow right??

I had those 3 positive OPK days so idk which one to count from. I'm either 10-11dpo I think


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[twointow83]

Is Pbn the only one testing today?? I need to see some pee sticks!!!! Feed my addiction people!! :giggle:

[twointow83]

I had those 3 positive OPK days so idk which one to count from. I'm either 10-11dpo I think


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That's right... you didn't say if your testing tomorrow, lol. I think it was you that was supposed to test with me... I think you and netti are the ones closest to me O-wise but if I recall correctly I think she is waiting to test...

[Laurenk1424]

That's right... you didn't say if your testing tomorrow, lol. I think it was you that was supposed to test with me... I think you and netti are the ones closest to me O-wise but if I recall correctly I think she is waiting to test...

I think I'm going to test tomorrow... I'm scared tho. I don't wanna be disappointed.


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[twointow83]

I think I'm going to test tomorrow... I'm scared tho. I don't wanna be disappointed.


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I understand that. GL if you do decide to test!! Ii am honestly not expecting a BFP tomorrow. 1: because I have next to no symptoms and 2: because if implantation was yesterday as I suspect it might have been (assuming it occurred at all) it'd be too soon for a BFP. So, I'll prob just OPK test in the AM if I decide to test at all.

[mommymachine]

I understand that. GL if you do decide to test!! Ii am honestly not expecting a BFP tomorrow. 1: because I have next to no symptoms and 2: because if implantation was yesterday as I suspect it might have been (assuming it occurred at all) it'd be too soon for a BFP. So, I'll prob just OPK test in the AM if I decide to test at all.

Love your chart today two!

[twointow83]

Love your chart today two!

Thanks! Me too!! I am just hoping it stays up or even goes higher :D :noaf:

[momamia4]

FX Lauren, two, and Pbn3!! :)

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[mommymachine]

I think I may feel some pinching!!!! Or maybe it is all in my head.

[twointow83]

Thought I'd share... thought these were cute :)
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[twointow83]

I think I may feel some pinching!!!! Or maybe it is all in my head.

:fx:!!

[Pbn3]

Morning all! Well temp went up slightly but hpt is still not quite a positive. I'll post a pic with a super dooper squinter alert lol. Once again I'm not sure if I'm seeing things because I want to I just thought at 11dpo I'd have an answer. Felt some cramping yesterday/last night - not quite af cramps but close. So I'm holding onto the hope that I've implanted really late and maybe I'll get a bfp tomorrow at 12dpo. I do have to say I'm actually beginning to think I'm out this month which is so confusing after being so sure this was it. Anyway looking forward to some updates from everyone! Twointow, Netti and Lauren fx for you all!!! I think you're the next three testing. Am I missing anyone? Please jump in and let us know!http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/47661002829bf724aad6f0ed38feee2f.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/962379d11102ad8bb7a409ccbbc3fc12.jpg

[Pbn3]

Now I can't even see anything lol so lets call it a bfn!!

[mommymachine]

I don't know Pbn, I keep looking at the top picture thinking I see a second line. Did you see it better in real life? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

[Pbn3]

Yes I did mommymachine but surely at 11dpo I'd have something more noticeable :( well af is due Monday morning on the dot although last cycle my lt dropped to 12 days so could even be Sunday. I've been off the diet since o day so when af comes I think I'll start a thread asking if I should skip a cycle to go back on diet so I've got another 5/6 weeks back on it.

[Boysboys]

Well darn! I wouldn't say you're out quite yet but I totally get getting your mind set. I do know with DS1 it was a super squinted and 12 dpo so who knows.

I'm 2 dpo. I am trying really hard not to symptom spot but it's already so hard. Last month I just knew was my month. I had every symptom in the book and got bfn!!! I will most likely wait until I miss my period to test. I can't take the disappointment!haha I will ATLESST wait until 12dpo. ;)

[Boysboys]

I'm kinda bummed. Last month the first couple of days after ovulation my clear CM continued (which I was happy about!) well I wanted this month to be different so I've been glad NOT to see it. Just went to bathroom and I had that same clear CM. :(

[Pbn3]

Boysboys have you noticed lack of clear cm with previous pregnancies and is that why you're bummed? I didn't think cm after o meant much tbh. fx for you especially as you've got another 10 days of symptom spotting! Sending positive thoughts and baby dust your way!!

[Boysboys]

Only thing I remember is 9 dpo I get a good blob of it. Guessing related to implantation. I hate symptom spotting. Lol

[twointow83]

Pbn- hugs! I'm sorry. Not the most sage advice, but it helps see squinters a bit easier... Let the test dry. If once dry it HAS COLOR it's not an evap and you weren't seeing things lol.

Boys- CM a couple DPO is irrelevant to preg outcome! CM after implantation barely tells you anything... and even then it tells you absolutely nothing most of the time, so CM before implantation time frame has zero impact or zero info to offer you. HTH.

[Boysboys]

Pbn- hugs! I'm sorry. Not the most sage advice, but it helps see squinters a bit easier... Let the test dry. If once dry it HAS COLOR it's not an evap and you weren't seeing things lol.

Boys- CM a couple DPO is irrelevant to preg outcome! CM after implantation barely tells you anything... and even then it tells you absolutely nothing most of the time, so CM before implantation time frame has zero impact or zero info to offer you. HTH.

That's what I needed to hear. Hahaha! 2 dpo and already doubting. Lol

[Pbn3]

Pbn- hugs! I'm sorry. Not the most sage advice, but it helps see squinters a bit easier... Let the test dry. If once dry it HAS COLOR it's not an evap and you weren't seeing things lol.

Boys- CM a couple DPO is irrelevant to preg outcome! CM after implantation barely tells you anything... and even then it tells you absolutely nothing most of the time, so CM before implantation time frame has zero impact or zero info to offer you. HTH.
Thanks Twointow I'm going to get just one more test for the morning but I'm pretty much officially counting myself out. I feel completely defeated atm :( I need to see some bfps from you ladies to perk me up!!!

[momamia4]

Sorry Pbn3. :bighug:

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[Pbn3]

Thanks momamia where are you at in cycle? I loose track of everyone unless they're a couple days either side of me lol

[momamia4]

I got a bfp on Aug 12th but I'm nervous to leave the group before my RE decides my hcg levels are "safe".

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[twointow83]

I got a bfp on Aug 12th but I'm nervous to leave the group before my RE decides my hcg levels are "safe".

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When did you say you are getting BW again?

[netti02]

Hi Ladies


Still early pbn i have everything crossed. My eyesight isn't good enough for checking squinters 😂

How is everyone else fairing? Ik trying not to symptom spot but 2 bigs changes for me overnight, very tender constant sore BBs and increased need for the loo big time! Im only 6 dpo but i certainly feel pregnant, maybe its all hormonal. I'm trying to hold out til Monday and even then its still early.

Will be shopping and then home for a nap before i get the kiddies.

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

[Pbn3]

That's right! Sorry momamia! I remember now! They were at 400? last test? When is your next check up?

[kperez0222]

Wow. Some of you ladies are lucky... my first appt. Isn't til I'm 10 weeks. :(

B♡K♡G♡L

[twointow83]

Wow. Some of you ladies are lucky... my first appt. Isn't til I'm 10 weeks. :(

B♡K♡G♡L

Even with my history I have to wait until 8 weeks.... which means I'll be a stressed out jittery mess for a month but it's "policy". Even then I'll only see the nurse practitioner, not the doc, and get an u/s. Won't get to see my doc until 12 weeks. So I'll be seeing my OB and my high risk specialist the same week... SMH, lol.

[Boysboys]

We don't get US until 8 weeks so no need to go until then. Not being high risk my insurance only pays for two ultrasounds! One at 8 and anatomy scan at 20!!!! Stinks so badly. My doctor (who moved:( ) would sneak me a couple more so if we do get Preggo I won't have that luxury anymore. Yuck.

[twointow83]

We don't get US until 8 weeks so no need to go until then. Not being high risk my insurance only pays for two ultrasounds! One at 8 and anatomy scan at 20!!!! Stinks so badly. My doctor (who moved:( ) would sneak me a couple more so if we do get Preggo I won't have that luxury anymore. Yuck.

That is one of the VERY few "perks" to being high risk. My ins. gets to bite it on their limitations with u/s... including paying for a 3D anatomy scan at 20 weeks. At least they did with my youngest... after I already paid for one out of pocket because I didn't know. I'll likely get two again this time. I'll get one with my specialist and my OB has this program that if you use their online system (trying to get more ppl to use it) to request an appt for it, instead of calling to do so, the 3D/4D u/s is free. There is a catch though... u/s scare me (both losses discovered via u/s with no other sign there was a problem) and get me excited all at the same time lol. So, after the HB is found each time it feels like a blessing to have extra peeks at our bean but until then I tend to be a nervous wreck as I wait for it to be found.

[momamia4]

My last test on Monday my level was 60. I go back again tomorrow morning and I'm hoping it'll be in the 400s.

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[Boysboys]

That is one of the VERY few "perks" to being high risk. My ins. gets to bite it on their limitations with u/s... including paying for a 3D anatomy scan at 20 weeks. At least they did with my youngest... after I already paid for one out of pocket because I didn't know. I'll likely get two again this time. I'll get one with my specialist and my OB has this program that if you use their online system (trying to get more ppl to use it) to request an appt for it, instead of calling to do so, the 3D/4D u/s is free. There is a catch though... u/s scare me (both losses discovered via u/s with no other sign there was a problem) and get me excited all at the same time lol. So, after the HB is found each time it feels like a blessing to have extra peeks at our bean but until then I tend to be a nervous wreck as I wait for it to be found.

Ugh! Yes, my sister has the worst fear of ultrasounds. She has lost two at 10 and 12 weeks after seeing a heartbeat at 8. Absolutely awful!!! BW makes her crazy too!lol

[twointow83]

My last test on Monday my level was 60. I go back again tomorrow morning and I'm hoping it'll be in the 400s.

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:fx: keep us posted!!!

[momamia4]

I will! :)

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[twointow83]

Ugh! Yes, my sister has the worst fear of ultrasounds. She has lost two at 10 and 12 weeks after seeing a heartbeat at 8. Absolutely awful!!! BW makes her crazy too!lol

Sorry to hear that :( :hug2: to her

BW not an issue for me... the only thing to ever come from BW was my prog was low with our angel DD. My numbers double pretty good though so... Though the chromosome testing might make me nervous this time, knowing we have had a baby with chromosome abnormalities. But at least I'll have finding out the gender to look forward to :)

[twointow83]

Not sure what it means, if anything but... I tested last night... not 100% on why but I did. I knew there would probably be no line but I guess that is why I did it. To make sure there was no chance that this mornings test would end up being lighter than last night's, I get all excited see a line or something and then get let down... Anyway, I got the itch to test again tonight and decided to go fo it to compare it to last night's test since I didn't have AM tests to compare :giggle: and....
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There is always the possibility it is just a normal flux of hormones but it feels good to see that tonight's test is darker than last night's test. :shrug: So much for not being a POAS addict this cycle :giggle: Oh well, will power is overrated lol.

[mommymachine]

Hi Ladies


Still early pbn i have everything crossed. My eyesight isn't good enough for checking squinters 😂

How is everyone else fairing? Ik trying not to symptom spot but 2 bigs changes for me overnight, very tender constant sore BBs and increased need for the loo big time! Im only 6 dpo but i certainly feel pregnant, maybe its all hormonal. I'm trying to hold out til Monday and even then its still early.

Will be shopping and then home for a nap before i get the kiddies.

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

I'm 6 DPO as well! Yay testing buddies! Your symptoms sound promising!

[mommymachine]

Not sure what it means, if anything but... I tested last night... not 100% on why but I did. I knew there would probably be no line but I guess that is why I did it. To make sure there was no chance that this mornings test would end up being lighter than last night's, I get all excited see a line or something and then get let down... Anyway, I got the itch to test again tonight and decided to go fo it to compare it to last night's test since I didn't have AM tests to compare :giggle: and....
Just a sec... getting better pic :)

There is always the possibility it is just a normal flux of hormones but it feels good to see that tonight's test is darker than last night's test. :shrug: So much for not being a POAS addict this cycle :giggle: Oh well, will power is overrated lol.

Wait, are these HPTs?!?!?! Oh my gosh!

[twointow83]

Wait, are these HPTs?!?!?! Oh my gosh!
No sorry forgot to mention they are opks. Sorry. Wish it was hpt...

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[netti02]

What is it that the opks show two?

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[mommymachine]

No sorry forgot to mention they are opks. Sorry. Wish it was hpt...

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I was so excited! I think that is good that tonights test is darker. I would take that as a good sign. Are you going to test on an hpt tomorrow?

[Pbn3]

Twointow I can't see any pics?

[twointow83]

What is it that the opks show two?

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In the grand scheme, just something to toy with until your levels are high enough for HPT to pick up, because if using an opk as an HPT same rules apply... to be + test line has to be as dark or darker than the control line to be positive and you'll get a HPT BFP before a + OPK. But here is the rundown of how it works...

LH and HCG are essentially twins, but HCG has a "nose job". OPK's test for the twin, HPT tests for the nose job. SO, OPKs will pick up on HCG as well as LH. HPT will ONLY pick up on HCG. The idea is that if your OPKs get progressively darker each day it's a good sign that HCG is building, even though you may not be able to get anything on an HPT. It is NOT a replacement for HPTs but can possibly give you an idea of what is going on. Heres a pic of OPKs and HPTs to show you what I mean(I did this when I got preg with my DD... *Important note* just because your OPKs aren't getting darker doesn't mean you are out... some test are just less sensitive than others!*

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[twointow83]

I was so excited! I think that is good that tonights test is darker. I would take that as a good sign. Are you going to test on an hpt tomorrow?

I think implantation was just yesterday (if at all) so I think it may be too early for an HPT. I might... but I don't know. It'll depend on my mood in the AM I suppose lol.

[twointow83]

Twointow I can't see any pics?

Yeah, I had to get a better pic. The first was kinda grainy and crappy looking lol. It is on there now :)

[Pbn3]

Yeah, I had to get a better pic. The first was kinda grainy and crappy looking lol. It is on there now :)
Seen them :) fx this is a sign of good things to come!

[Laurenk1424]

Yeah, I had to get a better pic. The first was kinda grainy and crappy looking lol. It is on there now :)

I have to say this is exciting for you, BUT my OPK was completely blank today... So that kinda worries me. I had alllll these symptoms this cycle and something is telling me tonight that I'm out. Idk why, just a really strong feeling all of a sudden.


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[twointow83]

I have to say this is exciting for you, BUT my OPK was completely blank today... So that kinda worries me. I had alllll these symptoms this cycle and something is telling me tonight that I'm out. Idk why, just a really strong feeling all of a sudden.


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Like I said, OPKs not getting darker does NOT mean you are out. It's one of those things that can add a potential sign but just like nausea or any other preg sign just because it's not there doesn't mean your not preg, and just because it is doesn't mean you are. It's more for fun than diagnostic. So don't panic! And definitely don't put all your eggs in an opk basket!

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[Laurenk1424]

Like I said, OPKs not getting darker does NOT mean you are out. It's one of those things that can add a potential sign but just like nausea or any other preg sign just because it's not there doesn't mean your not preg, and just because it is doesn't mean you are. It's more for fun than diagnostic. So don't panic! And definitely don't put all your eggs in an opk basket!

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Haha oh I know that... It's just been this weird feeling I've had tonight. I was so optimistic this cycle but I think I was just really excited and convincing myself lol. I'm not feeling it anymore. I hope hope hope I'm wrong tho. We shall see.


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[Pbn3]

Lauren I got a flashing smiley (and when I looked inside test had a pretty dark line) on an digital opk test at 10 or 11 dpo last cycle (cant remember exactly) and still got a bfn so don't read anything into it :) especially so early :)

[twointow83]

Haha oh I know that... It's just been this weird feeling I've had tonight. I was so optimistic this cycle but I think I was just really excited and convincing myself lol. I'm not feeling it anymore. I hope hope hope I'm wrong tho. We shall see.


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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. 3 of my 4 pregs (that lasted longer than a few days) I had NO clue I was preg. My first preg my first sign was the day of my BFP when I woke up and got sick over and over for hours until DH took me to ER where I found out I was pregnant. My second preg, the closest thing I had to a sign was gas but I didn't think twice about it, just blamed what I was eating... could have knocked me over with a feather when I got that BFP. And even my third my only sign was cramps and lack of my usual pre-af kidney-ache. I thought I was out every single time. Gut feelings don't always tell the real story :)

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[Pbn3]

hi everyone its the serial tester here sorry lol. This is a test I've just done. Can anyone please tell me if they see a vvv faint line with colour? Edited to change pichttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/21/ebe78c4d538147890ed9e2a1c117f0a3.jpg

[Pbn3]

Here's another pichttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/20/15310c3800e465cee769913a3b82cafe.jpg

[Pbn3]

if you cant see anything its ok the pics I'm uploading look alot easier to see on my phone. I only took another test because I got indigestion again today. I have only ever gotten it when pregnant so suddenly my hopes are slightly higher. Uurrgghh symptoms!! I'll know soon enough in 14 hours or so when I test in morning. Then I'll finally completely admit defeat lol!! **** edited first pic hope you all can see what I think I do now :)

[netti02]

2nd pic looks like i could see a faint line- fingers and toes crossed for the morning. I wish it was next week already 😂😂

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[Pbn3]

Thanks Netti! It's just sooo frustrating to have decent symptoms but no strong pink line to prove it one way or another. You're testing monday right?? fx for you how many dpo will you be?

[netti02]

It is frustrating ive had symptoms too and im always thinking maybe this is it but still too early for a bfp though 😂will be 9dpo Monday and hope fmu does the trick but at least ill be on the down hill one way or another ☺

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[Pbn3]

Hey Netti I've edited that first pic post if you get a chance to look - its much closer to what I can see on my phone than the previous pic

[twointow83]

Pbn- I think I might be seeing a hint of something in the first pic, but I just woke up so my eyeballs are not all that reliable at the moment lol. Can you see it better IRL? It's prob dry by now... is there a line with color? If there is a line I pray it's real and not another FRER issue and you get a stronger line in the AM!

[Pbn3]

hi Twointow I can't check the dry test as is in my ensuite bin and I don't want to risk waking up ds2. The photo you looked at was taken after maybe 5 mins?? I went back to it a few times over the afternoon and thought I could still see, just not as much as when I initially did test. It's almost bed time anyway so I'll have an answer soon enough!

So tell me did you test this morning???

[twointow83]

hi Twointow I can't check the dry test as is in my ensuite bin and I don't want to risk waking up ds2. The photo you looked at was taken after maybe 5 mins?? I went back to it a few times over the afternoon and thought I could still see, just not as much as when I initially did test. It's almost bed time anyway so I'll have an answer soon enough!

So tell me did you test this morning???

Yep. HPT was white as far as I could tell. I have to wait for the OPK to dry before I can compare it to yesterday's test. I thought I saw the slightest hint of a line on the HPT for about 5 secs but I think it was just wishful thinking because I don't see it now.

[Pbn3]

So its not possible for a faint line to dissipate if its a positive? I just don't know is all, wish I wasn't such a test junkie lol!!

[daisy4]

Goodluck ladies [emoji1]

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[twointow83]

So its not possible for a faint line to dissipate if its a positive? I just don't know is all, wish I wasn't such a test junkie lol!!

Honestly, I won't say it's impossible because I don't know :shrug: Personally I always assume if it doesn't stay it was my eyes playing tricks on me... but that is just my assumption.

[twointow83]

Okay, so here are this morning's pics...
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[Pbn3]

I can't see anything in pic sorry two but your temps look great!

[twointow83]

I can't see anything in pic sorry two but your temps look great!

HPT is white. OPK is ever so slightly darker than yesterday's :)

[Pbn3]

Oh for sure definately see the opk lines I was only referring to hcg one :) Cant wait to see what tomorrow brings!! Will you be testing with both again?

[twointow83]

Oh for sure definately see the opk lines I was only referring to hcg one :) Cant wait to see what tomorrow brings!! Will you be testing with both again?

Probably, but honestly I'm not expecting to see anything until at least 11 DPO. Have a headache this morning though, and even this cycle, with all the headaches I've had, I generally don't get them first thing in the AM. Going to take some tylenol and see if it makes it go away. Tylenol doesn't touch preg headaches for me so if I still have it after taking tylenol I'll count it as a good sign... even though I don't think a headache is technically a good thing lol.

[Pbn3]

Well I'm signing off for another day :) I seriously doubt I'll be sharing good news in morning so I'll keep it short and sweet. We are visiting family tomorrow at least that'll keep my mind off the impending af doom :(
Rest of luck two and I hope you get 'that line' in the morning :)

[twointow83]

Well I'm signing off for another day :) I seriously doubt I'll be sharing good news in morning so I'll keep it short and sweet. We are visiting family tomorrow at least that'll keep my mind off the impending af doom :(
Rest of luck two and I hope you get 'that line' in the morning :)

I'm not uncrossing my fingers lady! You can't make me!! :giggle: I'm not giving up hope for your BFP just yet :D Hopefully today's "vvv faint line" will turn into a BFP by the AM!! :fx:

[YayBaby678]

I haven't been posting much but have been following. You ladies are all so close to finding out if you'll get your BFP! FX for all of you still waiting to test.

AFM - I'm starting to get worried. I might have jumped to soon adding myself to the due date club and posting my sway attempt. My temp is falling and this morning's wondfo test isn't any darker than Wed night's. I'm going to use another FRER tomorrow morning and hope it's much darker than the test I took on Tuesday morning. Cross those fingers extra tight for me!

The top pic is from this morning...
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[twointow83]

I haven't been posting much but have been following. You ladies are all so close to finding out if you'll get your BFP! FX for all of you still waiting to test.

AFM - I'm starting to get worried. I might have jumped to soon adding myself to the due date club and posting my sway attempt. My temp is falling and this morning's wondfo test isn't any darker than Wed night's. I'm going to use another FRER tomorrow morning and hope it's much darker than the test I took on Tuesday morning. Cross those fingers extra tight for me!

The top pic is from this morning...

:fingers: :pray: :hug2:

[momamia4]

Yaybaby, I've noticed that mine takes about 4 days to get darker. I wouldn't worry. :)

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[YayBaby678]

Yaybaby, I've noticed that mine takes about 4 days to get darker. I wouldn't worry. :)

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Thank you momamia! I hope this is the case for me. Do you temp? If yes, did you continue to temp after BFP?

[twointow83]

Nevermind about the cramps that I posted about. I've figured it out. (for those confused about what cramps I am talking about the post was here but deleted it and typed this :) )

On a more semi-positive note, I took the tylenol and my headache calmed for a few mins... had about 15-20 mins of relief, but it came ROARING back. It's unusual for tylenol to work at all if this headache is a preg sign, but maybe because it's only a couple days past implantation (assuming it happened the day I think.. or at all), maybe that is why the tylenol helped. I really don't know. All I know is my head is driving me nuts and I can't take anything for it, so I am :pray: it's a sign and not a red herring.

[momamia4]

Yaybaby, I did temp this cycle and I have continued to temp. My temp has stayed elevated.

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[daisy4]

Yaybaby same thing happened to me it takes a few days to get darker . How many dpo are you ?

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[momamia4]

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[daisy4]

Momamia hope you your results quick today [emoji1]

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[YayBaby678]

Yaybaby same thing happened to me it takes a few days to get darker . How many dpo are you ?

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14 dpo today.

[twointow83]

When do you get BW today momamia? Or did you already get it? Do you think you'll have the results today?

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[momamia4]

FX, two!!

I didn't temp today because I woke up much earlier than usual to get my blood drawn.

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[YayBaby678]

Yaybaby, I did temp this cycle and I have continued to temp. My temp has stayed elevated.

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Your chart looks great momamia! I'm just trying to tell myself not to worry too much unless I dip below the coverline...

[daisy4]

Yaybaby that is still really early mine didn't start getting darker until about 20dpo . I wouldn't worry . Did you bw yet?

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[momamia4]

I already got it done a few hours ago. I will definitely get the results today but I don't know what time. Last time it wasn't until 4:15pm. :/

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[twointow83]

I already got it done a few hours ago. I will definitely get the results today but I don't know what time. Last time it wasn't until 4:15pm. :/

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Hopefully sooner today! FX!

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[momamia4]

Yaybaby, I keep telling myself the same thing. I keep looking at pregnancy charts in ff.

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[YayBaby678]

I think I might be out :( I am having HORRIBLE AF-type cramps... Nothing like the AF type cramps I've had and still been preg before. TMI, and I never thought I'd say this, but I HOPE my IBS is acting up (my IBS cramps can feel remarkably similar to AF cramps sometimes).

On a more semi-positive note, I took the tylenol and my headache calmed for a few mins... had about 15-20 mins of relief, but it came ROARING back. It's unusual for tylenol to work at all if this headache is a preg sign, but maybe because it's only a couple days past implantation (assuming it happened the day I think.. or at all), maybe that is why the tylenol helped. I really don't know. All I know is my head is driving me nuts and I can't take anything for it, so I am :pray: it's a sign and not a red herring.

Do you usually get AF cramps this many days before she shows? I usually only get them the day before O or maybe 2 days before. FX its not her on her way!

[Laurenk1424]

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. No line what so ever for me.
Mother Nature is rude.


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[daisy4]

Fx two [emoji1]

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[momamia4]

Two, I had af-like cramps this cycle and I am assuming it was implantation. It lasted from 8dpo until 12dpo. I was convinced af was going to show up early!! I got a bfp instead. :)

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[momamia4]

Sorry Lauren!!! :bighug:

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[daisy4]

Sorry Lauren [emoji20]

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[YayBaby678]

Yaybaby, I keep telling myself the same thing. I keep looking at pregnancy charts in ff.

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I do see charts in there with pretty significant dips. And I've read a lot of people saying that wondfos didn't get darker for them as the days went on and they ended up having healthy pregnancies. I'm going to try my best not to stress, as there is nothing I can do either way.

[Laurenk1424]

Okay I'm going to chart this month. When do I start? Now?


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[YayBaby678]

Sorry Lauren!! How many dpo are you today? I know I've said it in these threads before so I'm sorry if I'm a broken record but I didn't even get a squinter with my DS until 12 dpo.

[twointow83]

Do you usually get AF cramps this many days before she shows? I usually only get them the day before O or maybe 2 days before. FX its not her on her way!
Hard to answer that. I usually start getting AF cramps 2-3 days before and my norm LP is 12 days... but I'm not 100% on the length of my LP on clomid. First cycle on clomid (years ago) I didn't chart that cycle. Second cycle (years ago) O date was questionable. This years clomid rounds I had a chem last cycle which delayed AF and the is only my second cycle this go around.

However, I am getting nauseas now which means it's more than likely my tummy issues acting up. Bad for me, but good news cycle-wise.

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[twointow83]

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. No line what so ever for me.
Mother Nature is rude.


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[emoji107] boo for mother nature! Maybe tomorrow. FX!

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[Laurenk1424]

Sorry Lauren!! How many dpo are you today? I know I've said it in these threads before so I'm sorry if I'm a broken record but I didn't even get a squinter with my DS until 12 dpo.

I'm 12dpo :(



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[twointow83]

Okay I'm going to chart this month. When do I start? Now?


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Up to you. Did AF show? You can start now, even if AF hasn't shown. You can wait until CD 1 or you can even wait until AF is over.

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[Laurenk1424]

[emoji107] boo for mother nature! Maybe tomorrow. FX!

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Thanks. I'm movin on and trying to better know when I ovulate next month. Just watched the video on fertility friend, but I'm confused as to when you temp. Vaginally or orally? Do you temp while on AF?
Help. I've never temped.


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[twointow83]

During AF, just like everything else is your call. Oral is the easiest, vag is the most accurate. As far as AF... it will have no affect if you temp orally. BUT vag temping could get messy. If you are a LIGHT bleeder you might be able to but I'd recommend buying the therm covers (they are super cheap). Personally, I temp vaginally and am NOT a light bleeder so I wait until after AF and use the covers if I'm spotting. Just make sure you keep your therm clean if you temp vaginally. It really isn't hard. I either use that "toy cleaner" stuff they sell if I have it :oops: or I clean it with alcohol and keep it in its plastic case.

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[Laurenk1424]

During AF, just like everything else is your call. Oral is the easiest, vag is the most accurate. As far as AF... it will have no affect if you temp orally. BUT vag temping could get messy. If you are a LIGHT bleeder you might be able to but I'd recommend buying the therm covers (they are super cheap). Personally, I temp vaginally and am NOT a light bleeder so I wait until after AF and use the covers if I'm spotting. Just make sure you keep your therm clean if you temp vaginally. It really isn't hard. I either use that "toy cleaner" stuff they sell if I have it :oops: or I clean it with alcohol and keep it in its plastic case.

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I'm a light bleeder, and I have covers already. I'll start tomorrow. What about if I pee in the middle on the night?



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[YayBaby678]

I'm 12dpo :(



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Well crap. Sorry Lauren :(

I think temping is a good idea. It will give you a better idea of what is going on with your cycles. I temp orally and I don't always temp through AF but its only because I have a pretty good idea of what my cycles look like at this point. I have definitely read that temping vaginally gives more accurate results.

Normally you want to take it after at least a few hours of solid sleep. If you get up to pee in the night, I would still just temp at your normal wake up time. Try to take it at the same time every day but don't stress if you can't, it should still be pretty close. DS still wakes up in the night so my sleep is not consistent at all but I can still tell when I O based on my temps.

[twointow83]

I'm a light bleeder, and I have covers already. I'll start tomorrow. What about if I pee in the middle on the night?



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If it's very close to when you'd normally temp (like within an hour) go ahead and temp. I've found that an hour doesn't make a huge difference.. maybe a couple hundredths of a degree, if that... for me at least. If it's longer and you don't think you'll be able to get back to sleep- temp and make a note of it so you can "disturb" it later if you need to because it's messing up your chart (or you can alter the temp... not my preference, but your chart= your call). If it's longer than an hour and you have no reason to believe you won't get back to sleep then wait to temp. Getting up to pee in and of itself isn't going to have a big impact temp wise unless you live in a mansion and have to way a ways to get to the restroom because you'll be half asleep so it's not like you'll be doing cartwheels or jumping jacks, lol. The issue comes in if you can't get back to sleep. So, if you don't normally have issues getting back to sleep and it's more than an hour from temp time wait to temp. If it's less than and hour you may not be able to get fully back to sleep before temp time (unless you're like my hubby who can fall asleep standing up lol... if you are then wait to temp if you'd like lol. Personally, it takes me a bit to get back to sleep).

[mommymachine]

I'm sorry Lauren:(

I don't know if I have good news or bad news. Woke up to a lot of brown spotting. It could be a good sign, but it could be AF. Maybe my LP is messed up after the MC?


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[Laurenk1424]

Okay. I'll prob be asked yall lots of questions as I go along because I still don't really understand what the chart will tell me. I will still BD at first positive OPK right? Or will my chart pick a better day?


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[Laurenk1424]

I'm sorry Lauren:(

I don't know if I have good news or bad news. Woke up to a lot of brown spotting. It could be a good sign, but it could be AF. Maybe my LP is messed up after the MC?


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Hopefully it's good news! FX for you!!!


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[twointow83]

I'm sorry Lauren:(

I don't know if I have good news or bad news. Woke up to a lot of brown spotting. It could be a good sign, but it could be AF. Maybe my LP is messed up after the MC?


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brown is old. IB is usually either pink or brown. Given the timing and color, I'd count it as a good sign!! :fingers:

[twointow83]

Okay. I'll prob be asked yall lots of questions as I go along because I still don't really understand what the chart will tell me. I will still BD at first positive OPK right? Or will my chart pick a better day?


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I'd stick with +OPK until you chart a few cycles and know how long after +OPK you normally O (hopefully you won't have to chart long though). Your chart won't really "pick" a day. That is something that comes from you learning your patterns. Over time FF will start to point out patterns like a line of green squares in the time frame you normally O, and give you statistical info, but the picking is all you. I can't speak for the others but I don't mind answering questions :)

[netti02]

I do see the faint line Pbn its a squinter but there fx it keeps getting darker 😊

This tww is dragging. .............

Just finishing my my working week only one more to go 😐

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[Boysboys]

[QUOTE=Laurenk1424;749026]Thanks. I'm movin on and trying to better know when I ovulate next month. Just watched the video on fertility friend, but I'm confused as to when you temp. Vaginally or orally? Do you temp while on AF?
Help. I've never temped.


I temped for the first time this past month and so glad I have that confirmation. I bought mine from Amazon. It's called baby hopes and like $9. I do mine orally. I don't have time for vaginal!lol I definitely recommend that! Do you use OPK??

[tfahn]

Got a positive OPK this morning, FINALLY!!!!!!!! CD19 today, so hopefully within the next 2 days I will O and I can finally start the 2WW. This is month 5 of trying, fingers crossed this is the month.

[momamia4]

FX tfahn! :D

[mommymachine]

Hope this is it for you tfahn.

[momamia4]

Well, the RE's office just called. My hcg went up but only to 141. The nurse said it isn't looking good and I'll probably have a miscarriage. The doubling time decreased a lot. It's 77 hours, instead of the 35 hours it was between the first 2 levels. Ugh.... Now my sister is messaging me asking me what the doctor said. I just don't want to tell her. I don't know what to say to her. I am just going to go cry for a while and maybe I'll figure out what to say to her.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I haven't been posting much but have been following. You ladies are all so close to finding out if you'll get your BFP! FX for all of you still waiting to test.

AFM - I'm starting to get worried. I might have jumped to soon adding myself to the due date club and posting my sway attempt. My temp is falling and this morning's wondfo test isn't any darker than Wed night's. I'm going to use another FRER tomorrow morning and hope it's much darker than the test I took on Tuesday morning. Cross those fingers extra tight for me!

The top pic is from this morning...
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Don't stress. Have you been for blood work?


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[mommymachine]

Well, the RE's office just called. My hcg went up but only to 141. The nurse said it isn't looking good and I'll probably have a miscarriage. The doubling time decreased a lot. It's 77 hours, instead of the 35 hours it was between the first 2 levels. Ugh.... Now my sister is messaging me asking me what the doctor said. I just don't want to tell her. I don't know what to say to her. I am just going to go cry for a while and maybe I'll figure out what to say to her.

I am so so sorry momamia. No matter what happens, we are here for you. Don't text your sister yet, just take this moment to let it all out.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Well, the RE's office just called. My hcg went up but only to 141. The nurse said it isn't looking good and I'll probably have a miscarriage. The doubling time decreased a lot. It's 77 hours, instead of the 35 hours it was between the first 2 levels. Ugh.... Now my sister is messaging me asking me what the doctor said. I just don't want to tell her. I don't know what to say to her. I am just going to go cry for a while and maybe I'll figure out what to say to her.

Moma im sorry love - stay positive - and ignore your sister. Don't reply if you don't want to. Shut your phone off and take some time for yourself.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Pbn I think I saw your vvv faint line. I suggest getting another test brand - even dollar store (I had a pos dollarstore at 9dpo)...


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[YayBaby678]

Don't stress. Have you been for blood work?


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Not yet. I have an appointment with my midwife on Wednesday morning and I'll have blood work done then. I'm jealous of everyone on here who seems to be able to get blood work done right away. They didn't even want to make the appointment for me on Wednesday, she said normally you call at 8 weeks and make your first appointment with the OB nurse.

[YayBaby678]

Well, the RE's office just called. My hcg went up but only to 141. The nurse said it isn't looking good and I'll probably have a miscarriage. The doubling time decreased a lot. It's 77 hours, instead of the 35 hours it was between the first 2 levels. Ugh.... Now my sister is messaging me asking me what the doctor said. I just don't want to tell her. I don't know what to say to her. I am just going to go cry for a while and maybe I'll figure out what to say to her.

Oh no momamia I'm so sorry. Definitely go have yourself a good cry. I would just ignore your sister for now and take some time for yourself. BIG HUGS.

[XXforhubby]

I'm so sorry Momamia! I would just take care of yourself right now. You can always tell your sister later, on your own time. The last thing you need is someone who may not be supportive of you and what you are going through.

Hang in there honey! It is tough waiting. Be kind to yourself right now and I pray for strength and healing to be sent your way [emoji8]!

Huge hugs!!


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[mommymachine]

I don't have a good feeling. Lots of brown spotting, AF cramps. The only thing keeping me hopeful is my temp this morning.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Not yet. I have an appointment with my midwife on Wednesday morning and I'll have blood work done then. I'm jealous of everyone on here who seems to be able to get blood work done right away. They didn't even want to make the appointment for me on Wednesday, she said normally you call at 8 weeks and make your first appointment with the OB nurse.

How it works here is as soon as we get a pos hpt our family doc (GP) will order blood work. We don't get any prenatal appointments until 9 or 10 weeks. Im not sure when we can start going to midwives (which I'll be doing from the start), but if you chose to go to an Ob you go really late... Like 28 weeks! Up il then your GP looks after you


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I don't have a good feeling. Lots of brown spotting, AF cramps. The only thing keeping me hopeful is my temp this morning.

Brown is old though... Take it easy and see what happens. Fx for you


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[XXforhubby]

I don't have a good feeling. Lots of brown spotting, AF cramps. The only thing keeping me hopeful is my temp this morning.

Same thing happened to me and I thought I was out despite my temps. My temps have looked promising before to only let me down. It wasn't until my acupuncturist asked if I was experiencing any symptoms did I even consider testing.

You're not out yet!! FX!!


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[twointow83]

Well, the RE's office just called. My hcg went up but only to 141. The nurse said it isn't looking good and I'll probably have a miscarriage. The doubling time decreased a lot. It's 77 hours, instead of the 35 hours it was between the first 2 levels. Ugh.... Now my sister is messaging me asking me what the doctor said. I just don't want to tell her. I don't know what to say to her. I am just going to go cry for a while and maybe I'll figure out what to say to her.
So sorry momamia. Just not fair :( ((((hugs))) do what you need to for you right now. Turn your phone off of you have to. ((((More hugs))))

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[YayBaby678]

How it works here is as soon as we get a pos hpt our family doc (GP) will order blood work. We don't get any prenatal appointments until 9 or 10 weeks. Im not sure when we can start going to midwives (which I'll be doing from the start), but if you chose to go to an Ob you go really late... Like 28 weeks! Up il then your GP looks after you


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I wish that was the case here. Maybe I'll try calling my GP just to see if they'll do a blood test. I'm not really interested in having to go to an appointment with the midwife if I don't have to just for the sake of getting my blood drawn.

[twointow83]

Got a positive OPK this morning, FINALLY!!!!!!!! CD19 today, so hopefully within the next 2 days I will O and I can finally start the 2WW. This is month 5 of trying, fingers crossed this is the month.

Good luck! :fingers:

[twointow83]

I don't have a good feeling. Lots of brown spotting, AF cramps. The only thing keeping me hopeful is my temp this morning.

IB can last up to 2 days. As long as it stays brown or pink, I think you are fine :) :fingers:

[netti02]

Hugs momamia xx

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[Pbn3]

Momamia so sorry :(

[Pbn3]

Pbn I think I saw your vvv faint line. I suggest getting another test brand - even dollar store (I had a pos dollarstore at 9dpo)...


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BFN this morning hitme :( I really thought that maybe I had a chance as I could see the line much more easier IRL but had trouble getting it to show on camera. Guess it was wishful thinking after all.

[twointow83]

Pbn is awake! :running: News??? Pee stick??? Fill us in!!!!!!!!!!!

[twointow83]

BFN this morning hitme :( I really thought that maybe I had a chance as I could see the line much more easier IRL but had trouble getting it to show on camera. Guess it was wishful thinking after all.

:hug2: So sorry. Sucks! I was really hopeful for you with your symptoms :( :sad:

[daisy4]

Momamia I am so sorry hoping it will turn around and everything will come out fine

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[Pbn3]

:hug2: So sorry. Sucks! I was really hopeful for you with your symptoms :( :sad:
Thanks Twointow. The symptoms are what really threw me especially the indigestion. Then to see that vvv faint line lol I keep looking at the pic and cant believe I didn't get a bfp :(:(

I'll be looking forward to your update tonight my time!! Please get a bfp!! You'll be 9 or 10dpo??

Lauren sorry you didn't get a bfp :( I'm catching up on the posts in between posting. I think its great you're going to start charting! Just don't get to caught up in 'doing it right' straightaway, it'll only be more stress and with some practice you'll start getting more and more confident so go easy on yourself. I find charts mostly useful for confirming o so it really can lessen the stress in that way :)

[Pbn3]

Good luck tfahn! fx this is your month!!

Yaybaby I hope the bw comes back with a great result. fx for you!

[twointow83]

Thanks Twointow. The symptoms are what really threw me especially the indigestion. Then to see that vvv faint line lol I keep looking at the pic and cant believe I didn't get a bfp :(:(

I'll be looking forward to your update tonight my time!! Please get a bfp!! You'll be 9 or 10dpo??

Lauren sorry you didn't get a bfp :( I'm catching up on the posts in between posting. I think its great you're going to start charting! Just don't get to caught up in 'doing it right' straightaway, it'll only be more stress and with some practice you'll start getting more and more confident so go easy on yourself. I find charts mostly useful for confirming o so it really can lessen the stress in that way :)
Come morning(my time), I'll be 10 DPO. Haven't been too sure about this cycle. My CM was a bit too creamy for my liking on attempt day. So part of me has been hoping, but a big part didn't expect anything to come of this cycle... think I might be changing my mind though... You know about the headache, which is still present btw. But I have also been mind numbingly tired today. I thought it was because I didn't get a full night's sleep last night. So I took a nap before the boys got home from school, slept for a good 2 hours and not sure if it's even possible but I am actually more tired now than I was before my nap :think: :shrug:

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[Pbn3]

Sounds similar to last cycles symptoms two! Praying you've got a sticky pink bean nestling in there!

[twointow83]

Sounds similar to last cycles symptoms two! Praying you've got a sticky pink bean nestling in there!

Yeah. It's weird! I don't know if it's an age thing or what but with all my boy pregs (first 3) had no obvious symptoms pre-BFP-day. But my DD, chem and so far this one (assuming I get a BFP) have all had obvious and identical symptoms. Since the last 2 were losses I don't know if it's a good thing or not, but since the only one that made it more than a few days was a DD I am hoping these are my girl preg symptoms lol. So far the only symptom I am missing that I had with DD and chem (boy pregs were too far back to remember exactly when it started... I know it did just not sure when) is the wet undies. TMI but it feels more moist down there but so far my undies are dry. I am praying if I get a BFP that I get to keep this one... so tired of the sadness of loss. I'm ready for some happy gain (of a chubby roll of powder fresh smelling sweetness) :)

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Sorry Pbn :(


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[netti02]

Sorry to hear pbn 😐

Best of luck two- i couldn't imagine going through a loss. I have been very very fortunate with my pregnancies i commend your strength 😊

GL tfahn catch that eggie.

My symptoms seem to have vacated, maybe it was abit of a hormonal surge. Still bummed about another week of waiting... ho hum. Im off to bed post night shift ill catch up with you all later xx


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[twointow83]

Sorry to hear pbn ��

Best of luck two- i couldn't imagine going through a loss. I have been very very fortunate with my pregnancies i commend your strength ��

GL tfahn catch that eggie.

My symptoms seem to have vacated, maybe it was abit of a hormonal surge. Still bummed about another week of waiting... ho hum. Im off to bed post night shift ill catch up with you all later xx


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A week is a long time and a lot can change in that time! Don't throw in the towel already ;)

As for strength, thanks for the thought but strong is something I am not when it comes to loss, or even the fear of loss. In fact I never feel weaker, more helpless or more broken than when I think of my losses or go through them. I think many who have had losses may concur with that, though I can't speak for them. Thank you for the thought though. It was very sweet.

[netti02]

Trying not to throw in the towel yet. Didn't realise how impatient i was. And hear i am thinking of going team green next pregnancy 😂



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[momamia4]

Thanks ladies! I hope the nurse is just jumping to conclusions but only time will tell. I definitely feel pregnant. The most frustrating thing is that I don't have anything to compare this experience to (as far as the hcg levels). I'm hoping that it's just what my body usually does when I'm pregnant. I don't usually get a positive pregnancy test until later but this time I got one before I missed my period. I am praying that's a good sign. I was able to shut my sister up by telling her I didn't want to talk about it right now. Surprisingly, that worked!

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[twointow83]

So, I broke down and bought an early test, but not FRER. It's a blue dye test (boo!) but that was my only options- FRER or one of the blue dye tests. I got the generic because I spent way too much on preg tests last cycle so decided to go cheap this cycle. Gonna take one in the AM. Does anyone know how reliable/sensitive (actually, not the posted sensitivity) of the equate brand blue dye early tests are?

This brand:
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[netti02]

That sticky bean is probably taking its sweet time growing momamia. Is it nurses that handover the results? Are u in the US?

In Australia only a doctor can report blood work and comment on it so that's a bit surprising to me. I am a nurse and i wouldn't dream of handing over any opinion re: bloodwork. I would just ignore the nurse. I have to say some think they have a medical degree it irks me allll the time

Ok my rant over. I got some FR tests that say 5 days before expected period. Im a poas addict 😂😂😂

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[netti02]

Never heard of that brand two. But best of luck in the morning. Ive tested but bfns so far LOL may try again tmro.

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[twointow83]

That sticky bean is probably taking its sweet time growing momamia. Is it nurses that handover the results? Are u in the US?

In Australia only a doctor can report blood work and comment on it so that's a bit surprising to me. I am a nurse and i wouldn't dream of handing over any opinion re: bloodwork. I would just ignore the nurse. I have to say some think they have a medical degree it irks me allll the time

Ok my rant over. I got some FR tests that say 5 days before expected period. Im a poas addict ������

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

In the US, for the most part, the docs have to review the results and determine their meaning but the nurses make the calls. Sometimes, with small things, the nurse can just call with results though... it varies office to office what is considered "small" though.

[twointow83]

Never heard of that brand two. But best of luck in the morning. Ive tested but bfns so far LOL may try again tmro.

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

It's walmart's early test brand. They also have a non-early brand but it goes by another name. Thanks :) It's still early :bigsmile: Your BFP may still come. We are having a BFP drought we need another BFP boom this month!

[netti02]

Oh wow we always have to go to our Dr's to get our results. No information can be given out via phone all due to privacy etc. It would make my life easier though being phoned. Maybe they can start introducing the online results here soon

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[netti02]

Hehe i know its way too early i keep trying to remind myself i only ovulated last weekend 😂😂

The main brands im familiar with in Australia is clear blue and first response. I actually didnt see any other brand at the supermarket. I think the chemists have abit more variety but not much..... i might have to invest in some cheapies if im going to keep poas 😂😂

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[twointow83]

Oh wow we always have to go to our Dr's to get our results. No information can be given out via phone all due to privacy etc. It would make my life easier though being phoned. Maybe they can start introducing the online results here soon

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Some doc offices are like that, I have gone to some. And if it's something serious most won't give out the info over the phone (in my experience) but if it's nothing serious (like telling you you have cancer or something) they will call the majority of the time. I don't know about over there but over here medical care is too expensive to have an office visit just to be told everything is fine lol. People would throw a fit having to pay $100+ to be told everything is ok.

[twointow83]

Hehe i know its way too early i keep trying to remind myself i only ovulated last weekend ����

The main brands im familiar with in Australia is clear blue and first response. I actually didnt see any other brand at the supermarket. I think the chemists have abit more variety but not much..... i might have to invest in some cheapies if im going to keep poas ����

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Oh, I get it! The struggle is REAL :giggle: I finally figured out what you and Pbn are talking about when you say "chemist" lol. Here a chemist is a person who works with chemistry/chemicals (like the companies that MAKE the meds). But I think YOU mean what we call a pharmacy :giggle: Feeling a little dense that it took me so long to figure out, lol. I just kept thinking... "wow... they get their meds straight from the chemist!?!" :rofl:

[momamia4]

Thanks, netti! Yes, I am in the US and this particular office has the nurses call patients with bloodwork results. Normally, the doctors have you schedule an appointment to come in and discuss the results. So I'm a little annoyed that my doctor is opting for the "hands off" approach. I feel the same way about the nurse. My grandma was a nurse and some of my cousins are nurses and they would never dream of attempting to give a diagnosis like this lady. I'm trying to keep my hopes up. :)

Two, I used that test this cycle and it showed a positive for me the same day as the frer that had a clear line. I think that was 12dpo.

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[Pbn3]

Oh, I get it! The struggle is REAL :giggle: I finally figured out what you and Pbn are talking about when you say "chemist" lol. Here a chemist is a person who works with chemistry/chemicals (like the companies that MAKE the meds). But I think YOU mean what we call a pharmacy :giggle: Feeling a little dense that it took me so long to figure out, lol. I just kept thinking... "wow... they get their meds straight from the chemist!?!" :rofl:
Rofl!!! That's hilarious two!! And yes our chemist is a pharmacy! Love these language differences thing, can be quite entertaining!

[twointow83]

Rofl!!! That's hilarious two!! And yes our chemist is a pharmacy! Love these language differences thing, can be quite entertaining!

Yes! Quite! Lol.

[Laurenk1424]

[QUOTE=Laurenk1424;749026]Thanks. I'm movin on and trying to better know when I ovulate next month. Just watched the video on fertility friend, but I'm confused as to when you temp. Vaginally or orally? Do you temp while on AF?
Help. I've never temped.


I temped for the first time this past month and so glad I have that confirmation. I bought mine from Amazon. It's called baby hopes and like $9. I do mine orally. I don't have time for vaginal!lol I definitely recommend that! Do you use OPK??

I use OPK, but every month I get like 3-4 positives. Ugh.


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[netti02]

Hehehe i keep forgetting the different references 😂😂😂





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[twointow83]

Hehehe i keep forgetting the different references ������

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Lol, no problem. I'm sure we throw some out there that are foreign to you all lol.

[Boysboys]

Lol! I'm with you two... Chemist sounds much more important though! :)

[twointow83]

Double BFN after only 4 hours of sleep. Waiting for OPK to dry for comparison but so far it looks the same as yesterday's, I think. Not saying I'm out, but having some mild AF-type cramps this morning and my kidneys are aching a little bit. But I also woke up with a headache again. :shrug: Guess time will tell how all this plays out.
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And for those on mobile... even though it's practically the same chart as yesterday, lol.
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[netti02]

Chart still looks good two! Sorry about the bfn. Ive been having some AF cramps too. Totally wishing away time here 😂 hope the evil witch stays away for us for 9 months 😁

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[twointow83]

Chart still looks good two! Sorry about the bfn. Ive been having some AF cramps too. Totally wishing away time here �� hope the evil witch stays away for us for 9 months ��

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Remind me again please? When do you plan to test? You are what.... 7 DPO? 8?

[twointow83]

Oh, and no apologies necessary. I kinda expected a BFN this morning lol. Not really expecting anything until tomorrow at earliest.

[netti02]

Im 7dpo today. Did a test this arvo bfn as expected. I may test tmro but from Monday i plan to test FMU and ill likely test daily 😂 poas addict much

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[Pbn3]

Agree your chart still looking good two! Are these similar temps at dpo to last months?

[twointow83]

Im 7dpo today. Did a test this arvo bfn as expected. I may test tmro but from Monday i plan to test FMU and ill likely test daily �� poas addict much

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Duh! You did say yesterday that you had tested. Sometimes I wonder if the memory portion of my brain has turned into a raisin lol, because it barely works.

[Pbn3]

Im 7dpo today. Did a test this arvo bfn as expected. I may test tmro but from Monday i plan to test FMU and ill likely test daily 😂 poas addict much

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Hey Netti from one poas addict to another I totally get it lol :) I even tested at 6dpo last cycle **crying laughing :)

[Pbn3]

Duh! You did say yesterday that you had tested. Sometimes I wonder if the memory portion of my brain has turned into a raisin lol, because it barely works.
Symptom!!!! lol :):):) **wink

[netti02]

Hehehe oh you ladies crack me up!!

Last night shift tonight then an extra afternoon shift tmro. Woohoo


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[twointow83]

Agree your chart still looking good two! Are these similar temps at dpo to last months?

Yes and no... similar temps BUT when you factor that my pre-o temps were higher than norm this cycle and pin at O AND CL, it tells a different story.

Pinned at O only:
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Pinned at O and CL:
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Preg avg; pinned at O and CL:
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[twointow83]

Symptom!!!! lol :):):) **wink

If it was new I'd jump on that train of thought in a heartbeat lol. Unfortunately, my memory hasn't been the same since I was preg with my first... so 9+ years would be one heck of a symptom :giggle:

[twointow83]

Hehehe oh you ladies crack me up!!

Last night shift tonight then an extra afternoon shift tmro. Woohoo


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Ah, the joys of night shift... NOT, lol. At least it might help time pass quicker...

[Pbn3]

def looking good chart wise two! can't wait to see what the next couple days bring!

[twointow83]

def looking good chart wise two! can't wait to see what the next couple days bring!

Yours too. I know you have kinda thrown in the towel but chart wise I see nothing so far that indicates that AF is on the way.

[Pbn3]

Yours too. I know you have kinda thrown in the towel but chart wise I see nothing so far that indicates that AF is on the way.
Yeah but my temps generally don't drop below coverline until after af passes. I was just so excited at how high they were this cycle...

[twointow83]

Yeah but my temps generally don't drop below coverline until after af passes. I was just so excited at how high they were this cycle...

Might not drop below CL but, based on last cycle, they do drop. Maybe they will in the AM... I don't know but so far they are still up :)

[twointow83]

It's been over an hour since it was taken so I think the OPK is dry enough to compare now... I was REALLY wrong about it looking the same as yesterday's lol. I had forgotten how light it was yesterday!!

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[Pbn3]

Twointow when are you going to do hpt test again? Those opk strips are looking promising :)

[twointow83]

Twointow when are you going to do hpt test again? Those opk strips are looking promising :)
In the am tomorrow (pm your time).

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[Pbn3]

Yay!! I'll be hanging out all day tomorrow now waiting for your update lol! fx Twointow and wishing you a lovely solid lined bfp!!! Off to sleep now so I'll bid you goodnite :)

[mommymachine]

Sorry about the bfn two. Hopefully tomorrow! BFN for me as well at 8 DPO.


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[twointow83]

Sorry about the bfn two. Hopefully tomorrow! BFN for me as well at 8 DPO.


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Sorry hun. Still early though :) Still plenty of time for it to show up!

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[Boysboys]

We need some BFP up in here!!!! Two, can't wait to see!

[twointow83]

We need some BFP up in here!!!! Two, can't wait to see!

Well, it's prob an evap because there is nothing on my IC and I KNOW those are pretty sensitive, but as you all know I have a tendency of looking at tests beyond time frame. Thought I might have saw something a few hours ago, looked at it again an I swear I can see the faintest hint of a line. Too light to tell if there is color or not though so I'm calling it an evap. That's my TTC insanity for you. I like seeing line, even when I know they prob aren't real lol :giggle:

[daisy4]

Hope I see more bfp here [emoji1]

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[mommymachine]

Well, it's prob an evap because there is nothing on my IC and I KNOW those are pretty sensitive, but as you all know I have a tendency of looking at tests beyond time frame. Thought I might have saw something a few hours ago, looked at it again an I swear I can see the faintest hint of a line. Too light to tell if there is color or not though so I'm calling it an evap. That's my TTC insanity for you. I like seeing line, even when I know they prob aren't real lol :giggle:


Umm I would get pretty excited about that!!!



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[twointow83]

Umm I would get pretty excited about that!!!



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Well, if I am being 100% honest I am encouraged by it. But I am trying to keep a level head and not got too excited about what may amount to an evap.. and more than likely is. My head pounding since yesterday is def a good, albeit annoying, sign too :)

[twointow83]

For those interested in seeing my probable evap:
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It's a barely there line! I am kinda shocked I got it on cam at all, but I managed to... barely

[XXforhubby]

Totally see it Two!! I bet it will get darker!!!!


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[twointow83]

Totally see it Two!! I bet it will get darker!!!!


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That's the hope. But I can't really count this one because I didn't see even a hint of a line, or even think I saw one, until after the 10 mins had passed.

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[kperez0222]

For those interested in seeing my probable evap:
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It's a barely there line! I am kinda shocked I got it on cam at all, but I managed to... barely
Same width, lenth, and color.... I'm thinking that's a positive! Can even see the invert!

B♡K♡G♡L

[XXforhubby]

Remember blue dye tests take longer to show. That is all I had when I couldn't get a positive to save my life with my DS2! Seriously, I had bought a ton because they were on sale! I would have jumped up and down to have gotten one to look like that back then!

Try again with another brand tomorrow with FMU.....PLEASE [emoji6]!!


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[mommymachine]

The only thing that I am nervous about Two is that these are blue dye test...maybe just guard your heart a little bit and pray for the best!

[twointow83]

The only thing that I am nervous about Two is that these are blue dye test...maybe just guard your heart a little bit and pray for the best!


Remember blue dye tests take longer to show. That is all I had when I couldn't get a positive to save my life with my DS2! Seriously, I had bought a ton because they were on sale! I would have jumped up and down to have gotten one to look like that back then!

Try again with another brand tomorrow with FMU.....PLEASE [emoji6]!!


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Here is my issue though... to avoid FRER I have to get a blue dye to get an early test. I have options on non-early tests but early result tests are all blue except FRER :(

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[twointow83]

Been to 4 stores today. All the same. I may have to buy a FRER to get a pink dye early test but with all the trouble, I don't know if it's worth it....

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[Pbn3]

Twointow I'm so excited for you!! Can't wait to see whatever you pee on tomorrow!!

AFM af arrived this morning - another 12 day lt phase hmmm

[twointow83]

Broke down and bought FRER after store #5 was same as first 4. Not going to trust a squinter though. To many have gotten squinters and it was false.

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[mommymachine]

Will you test again today Two or wait until morning?

[mommymachine]

Twointow I'm so excited for you!! Can't wait to see whatever you pee on tomorrow!!

AFM af arrived this morning - another 12 day lt phase hmmm

Oh No Pbn I am so sorry. Big Hugs.

[twointow83]

Will you test again today Two or wait until morning?
Morning. My bladder won't let me hold enough to test at night. Going to opk test tonight but hpt will wait until morning.

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[twointow83]

Twointow I'm so excited for you!! Can't wait to see whatever you pee on tomorrow!!

AFM af arrived this morning - another 12 day lt phase hmmm
I'm sorry Pbn :'( Prayers that this cycle will be "the one". :hug2:

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[daisy4]

Sorry pbn
Fx two ..hope you get a pink line in the morning [emoji1]

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[twointow83]

Sorry pbn
Fx two ..hope you get a pink line in the morning [emoji1]

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Thanks. I'm all set up for the am. Gonna be a testing fool lol. I'm taking an opk, ic hpt, my other blue dye test and a FRER. Hopefully one or more of them will give me a line. :fingers:

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[tfahn]

Good luck Two, it's time we had some more BFP's in here.

[Pbn3]

Got my 2 point decimal thermometer today here's to no more flatlining charts :)

[twointow83]

Got my 2 point decimal thermometer today here's to no more flatlining charts :)

Yay!! Curious to see what your chart will look like next cycle and hopefully you can retire that new therm quickly!! :fingers:

[Pbn3]

I know! Cant wait to see the difference! I'm already thinking what day would be appropriate to start a September 2ww thread lol!! :) ooohhh only what 7 hours or so till test time two!!?

[twointow83]

I know! Cant wait to see the difference! I'm already thinking what day would be appropriate to start a September 2ww thread lol!! :) ooohhh only what 7 hours or so till test time two!!?
Lol.

Yeah something like that as long as I wake up when I have been lately.

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[netti02]

Sorry about the witch pbn

Best of luck testing two, fingers and toes crossed.

Off to do an afternoon. Will get me closer to testing tmro FMU with a FR. CM is back to looking a little strange and possibly pregnancy looking and Cervix is very firm.

Bring on the morning 😉

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[Pbn3]

How exciting Netti! fx for you! Sounds very promising!!

[Pbn3]

Hi everyone just a quick question. I had a look and cant seem to find the thread I was looking for. I thought I remembered seeing something about soy once but can't remember what it was. I'm back on le diet as of today but trying to find some different foods to eat. Can anyone remember if soy is a yes or no on le diet? Was thinking of getting some soy burgers etc but have this nagging feeling I read something about it???

[mammacass]

Hi girls just wanted to pop in and ask a question if that's ok. This is my first attempt, last two months off BCP I have ovulated on CD 30. This month I am only on CD 11 and FF has given me dotted crosshairs for CD 8!! I have been sick the last couple of days which is why I thought the really high temp (no fever though). Anyways this morning I woke at 4am to go to toilet and couldn't get back to sleep so thought I would take temp then which was 36.1 I did end up drifting back off and took my temp at the usual time of 6am and it was 36.43. Which temp would you go with?? Oh and I have been taking vitex for the last 7 weeks but don't believe that would make me O this early?! I didn't note any fertile CM.
I guess the next few days will tell the story but just wanted some input from you lovely ladies
TIA
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[Pbn3]

hi mammacass I would ignore the crosshairs until you've had a few more days temping. You'll likely drop below its current coverline or start a second temp range trend iykwim. I would find it extremely unlikely you oed that early especially given you o normally way later. Sorry its not much help but neither is stress so I would say see what happens over next few days :) Are you using opks? I understand you wouldn't have started yet going by prior cycles but maybe start if you can get your hands on a heap of cheapies??

[mammacass]

Thankyou Pbn3, I also think it's unlikely but given its first attempt I am a little nervous and you know best laid plans and all ha ha if I did in fact O we have a 1 attempt 3 days before so not all bad but I really don't think it is a true O. I tried using OPKs for the first time ever last cycle, I bought a pack of 20 but started too early expecting my O to come much earlier and ran out of tests before I ever saw a positive. I'm not at all confident using them so have opted for the every 4 days route.




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[Pbn3]

Sounds like a great plan! How long were your cycles when you oed cd30 if you don't mind my asking? I find it amazing that you o later than my entire cycle length lol :)

[twointow83]

BFN x 3. Waiting for OPK to dry.
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[mammacass]

I know right it dragged on for so long!! I think it's because I have come off of BCP, my first cycle off I only had a 5 day LP (which freaked me out) so a 35 and the last was 43 days with LP of 13. Unsure what's really normal for me as I had always had irregular cycles and went on pill long term. I came off after about 12yrs to conceive first Bub. My last preg my O day was CD18.


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[Pbn3]

BFN x 3. Waiting for OPK to dry.
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Sorry two that's not what I was expecting at all :( however am waiting on your opk pic as there is always still hope :) 12dpo to me is the real teller of things so cant throw it in the bag just yet

[Pbn3]

I know right it dragged on for so long!! I think it's because I have come off of BCP, my first cycle off I only had a 5 day LP (which freaked me out) so a 35 and the last was 43 days with LP of 13. Unsure what's really normal for me as I had always had irregular cycles and went on pill long term. I came off after about 12yrs to conceive first Bub. My last preg my O day was CD18.


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Well I hope they get shorter for you :) let us know how it goes after a few days if that's ok? Feel free to post a pic of your chart anytime! I for one love looking/analyzing etc lol :)

[twointow83]

Sorry two that's not what I was expecting at all :( however am waiting on your opk pic as there is always still hope :) 12dpo to me is the real teller of things so cant throw it in the bag just yet

I'm thinking the same thing. Waiting for OPK to see what it says. If it's at least as dark as yesterday I'll consider the possibility the my hormones just haven't doubled yet since yesterday. If BFNs tomorrow I'm going to prepare to move on to next cycle. I've never had to wait until 12 DPO for a BFP because my hormones multiply so rapidly, so if BFN tomorrow I'm going to wait for AF. Kinda not seeing it happening anyway. I was only really tired that one day, CM is wrong(instead of wet spots getting white spots) and been getting headaches all cycle so not putting all my eggs in that basket as far as symptoms. Might still get a BFP, holding out for tomorrow, but not holding out a lot of hope.

[mammacass]

For sure! Thankyou so much for your help Pbn3 [emoji120]🏻


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[twointow83]

oh, forgot to add this pbn. I know you are usually mobile so...
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[Pbn3]

I'm thinking the same thing. Waiting for OPK to see what it says. If it's at least as dark as yesterday I'll consider the possibility the my hormones just haven't doubled yet since yesterday. If BFNs tomorrow I'm going to prepare to move on to next cycle. I've never had to wait until 12 DPO for a BFP because my hormones multiply so rapidly, so if BFN tomorrow I'm going to wait for AF. Kinda not seeing it happening anyway. I was only really tired that one day, CM is wrong(instead of wet spots getting white spots) and been getting headaches all cycle so not putting all my eggs in that basket as far as symptoms. Might still get a BFP, holding out for tomorrow, but not holding out a lot of hope.
Well I have everything crossed for you two! I love your company but I'd much rather meet you in the due date club next month lol. You getting a bfp would be like me getting one :)

[twointow83]

Hi girls just wanted to pop in and ask a question if that's ok. This is my first attempt, last two months off BCP I have ovulated on CD 30. This month I am only on CD 11 and FF has given me dotted crosshairs for CD 8!! I have been sick the last couple of days which is why I thought the really high temp (no fever though). Anyways this morning I woke at 4am to go to toilet and couldn't get back to sleep so thought I would take temp then which was 36.1 I did end up drifting back off and took my temp at the usual time of 6am and it was 36.43. Which temp would you go with?? Oh and I have been taking vitex for the last 7 weeks but don't believe that would make me O this early?! I didn't note any fertile CM.
I guess the next few days will tell the story but just wanted some input from you lovely ladies
TIA


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If you did O, I disagree with FF and think it should be a day later. If you O'd, it's possible it is a fallback rise. But I agree with Pbn... prob best to see what your next couple temps add to the picture.

[twointow83]

Well I have everything crossed for you two! I love your company but I'd much rather meet you in the due date club next month lol. You getting a bfp would be like me getting one :)

Aww :bigsmile: Thanks! The feeling is mutual :HH:

[mammacass]

If you did O, I disagree with FF and think it should be a day later. If you O'd, it's possible it is a fallback rise. But I agree with Pbn... prob best to see what your next couple temps add to the picture.

Thankyou two. Just curious re the 4am and 6am temp - which would you use? If I use the 4am it doesn't give me crosshairs.




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[twointow83]

Thankyou two. Just curious re the 4am and 6am temp - which would you use? If I use the 4am it doesn't give me crosshairs.

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How long were you awake before taking the 4 am temp? Did you get back to sleep for at least one hour before the 6 am temp? Do you temp orally or vaginally? If orally, did you have anything to eat, drink, etc. before taking either temp?

[mammacass]

Solid sleep for about 6hrs before 4am temp, but would be pushing it to make an hr before 6am temp as was just laying there thinking I wish I could get back to sleep lol I temp orally and no drinks before either temp :)


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[mammacass]

I guess either way next few temps will tell I'm just really impatient lol


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[twointow83]

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Not a great pic... I think my flashlight washed it out, but DH and boys are asleep and didn't want to wake them turning lights on and off. Too lazy to go to a different room too lol ;)

[twointow83]

Solid sleep for about 6hrs before 4am temp, but would be pushing it to make an hr before 6am temp as was just laying there thinking I wish I could get back to sleep lol I temp orally and no drinks before either temp :)


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I'd use the 4 am temp but make a note of your 6 am temp, just in case. But I hesitate to recommend using a temp based off less than an hour of sleep... even if you come to find out it does fit better with your pattern. But that is ultimately your call :)

[Pbn3]

Just seen your pic two and its as dark as previous day maybe slightly darker! Hope this means good things for over next couple days!! Did you say you weren't testing anymore (hpts) unless af doesn't show? Or will you test again at 12dpo? If I don't post again tonight I'll catch up in morning - 2 very bad nights sleep has caught up with me :)

[mammacass]

I'd use the 4 am temp but make a note of your 6 am temp, just in case. But I hesitate to recommend using a temp based off less than an hour of sleep... even if you come to find out it does fit better with your pattern. But that is ultimately your call :)

No worries, thankyou Two and good luck with your next test :)


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[twointow83]

Just seen your pic two and its as dark as previous day maybe slightly darker! Hope this means good things for over next couple days!! Did you say you weren't testing anymore (hpts) unless af doesn't show? Or will you test again at 12dpo? If I don't post again tonight I'll catch up in morning - 2 very bad nights sleep has caught up with me :)

Going to test again in the AM. If BFN, I am just going to wait to see if AF shows or not. Get a good night's sleep! :) Sweet dreams!

[netti02]

Opks look promising two!

I'll be 9 dpo (finally almost double digits) tomorrow and testing FMU. Likely to be bfn but at least i can be on the down hill 😂

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[twointow83]

Opks look promising two!

I'll be 9 dpo (finally almost double digits) tomorrow and testing FMU. Likely to be bfn but at least i can be on the down hill ��

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Good luck and :fx: !!

[Boysboys]

Not out yet two!!! I was so thinking this morning was going to be positive! My temp just keeps rising??? I'm 5 dpo and never charted before so nothing to compare it to unfortunately. :(

Hoping to see some BFP in the next couple of days!!!! ;)

[twointow83]

Not out yet two!!! I was so thinking this morning was going to be positive! My temp just keeps rising??? I'm 5 dpo and never charted before so nothing to compare it to unfortunately. :(

Hoping to see some BFP in the next couple of days!!!! ;)

Pretty much just ignore your temps from 1DPO to 5DPO. The only purpose they serve is O confirmation and mean nothing as far as preg odds. Your temps keep rising because your prog levels increase your temp as your levels increase. Some cycles you'll have a steady climb, others you'll just have one big jump. After 6 DPO you may, or may not, see your temp continue to rise. This is a good sign BUT does not guarantee preg and LACK of a continued rise doesn't mean you aren't. Just wanted to throw that out there, lol ;) Just don't want you to panic if your temps level out or even drop a bit. :fx: for you!! When do you plan to start testing??

[Boysboys]

Great. I have no clue about this temping.lol I will not test until 12-14 dpo. I still have a while to go. Grrrr