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momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 11:08 AM
So sorry Pbn!!! :bighug:
FX for tomorrow, Two!! :D
Is anyone else about to test? How many dpo is everyone?
AFM, I still am not spotting or anything to indicate a miscarriage. I have been having horrible insomnia despite taking Unisom at night (for the morning sickness I've been having). That is a huge indicator of pregnancy for me. DH is convinced that this is just how my body does pregnancy, so he is incredibly mad at the nurse for continuing to flat out tell me I'm going to miscarry. I'm trying my best to keep my hopes up but I constantly think every twinge is the start of it. It's horrible. :( I hope you guys don't mind me waiting it out in here with you guys. I feel like somehow I'd jinx it if I went fully into the DD board.
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 11:24 AM
Great. I have no clue about this temping.lol I will not test until 12-14 dpo. I still have a while to go. Grrrr
If you ever have questions feel free to post your chart or ask questions :)
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Boysboys
August 23rd, 2015, 11:30 AM
I don't like that she flat out said that either!! Everybody's body is different. I could understand her giving you a warning or guard your heart type of answer but my goodness!!! My friend was going in for a d&c and she asked for one last ultrasound and there he was, his heart just a beating! He is now 3 years old. True story. Please stay around! :)
Boysboys
August 23rd, 2015, 11:41 AM
Random story, lol but my point is you never know what can happen! Not up to her. :)
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 12:15 PM
So sorry Pbn!!! :bighug:
FX for tomorrow, Two!! :D
Is anyone else about to test? How many dpo is everyone?
AFM, I still am not spotting or anything to indicate a miscarriage. I have been having horrible insomnia despite taking Unisom at night (for the morning sickness I've been having). That is a huge indicator of pregnancy for me. DH is convinced that this is just how my body does pregnancy, so he is incredibly mad at the nurse for continuing to flat out tell me I'm going to miscarry. I'm trying my best to keep my hopes up but I constantly think every twinge is the start of it. It's horrible. :( I hope you guys don't mind me waiting it out in here with you guys. I feel like somehow I'd jinx it if I went fully into the DD board.
You said your #s are doubling every 77 hours, right? Or am I way off? I've always been told that as long as your #s are doubling every 2-3 days that your fine. I just did the math and 77 hours is 3.2 days. So that means every 3 days, 2 hours and 40 mins your # have doubled. If it is even longer the next time then your alarmist nurse *might*, and that's a BIG might, be worth giving consideration to. Right now you are on the cusp of what is considered normal. If you are still feeling symptoms, and not spotting or cramping excessively then try not to worry about it. I speak from experience when I say that if it's going to happen, it will happen. Stressing over the maybes won't change anything except ruin the first part of your preg if your nurse is talking out her arse and you carry to term. You might have signs, you might not. But until you have irrefutable evidence try to just keep on keeping on as you would if you didn't have the BW done because as you and your hubby said, you don't know that this isn't exactly how your body does with every pregnancy! Some people's hormones double at lightning speed, some go much slower. My DD was doomed from conception as she had a condition that is incompatible with life, and my hormones still doubled DAILY(..well close to it- every 25 hours). HCG doesn't always tell the whole story.
And you better stick around ;) We want all the preggy details so we can live vicariously, lol ;)
Oh and 11 DPO here.
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 12:22 PM
Random story, lol but my point is you never know what can happen! Not up to her. :)
I have never been so happy that I started bleeding before my d&c.... that story is CRAZY. I shudder to think... wow... just wow!
momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 12:32 PM
Thanks ladies! I am definitely holding out hope. My mom was supposed to have a d&c with her first pregnancy due to bleeding, but my mom decided she'd rather wait it out. Now my sister is 42!! :)
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TaytumJ
August 23rd, 2015, 12:49 PM
Just popping in to say I hope you see a BFP, Two! :) I've only stalked the last two pages, but I have everything crossed for you! I agree with Pbn, I would be so happy to see you with one!!
Momamia - hang in there! Sounds like you're still within normal range, and I have everything crossed that you hang on to that sticky little bean!
I'm just on my last Clomid today, and have been a little more emotional than normal on it. I'll try popping in more, but otherwise I'll see some of you in the Sept 2WW. :)
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 12:55 PM
Just popping in to say I hope you see a BFP, Two! :) I've only stalked the last two pages, but I have everything crossed for you! I agree with Pbn, I would be so happy to see you with one!!
Momamia - hang in there! Sounds like you're still within normal range, and I have everything crossed that you hang on to that sticky little bean!
I'm just on my last Clomid today, and have been a little more emotional than normal on it. I'll try popping in more, but otherwise I'll see some of you in the Sept 2WW. :)
Thanks and GL!! :fx:
mommymachine
August 23rd, 2015, 01:38 PM
BFN for me too today.
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 02:27 PM
BFN for me too today.
Boo! There is still time though :bigsmile:
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 04:21 PM
How many dpo are you mommymachine?
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 04:22 PM
Opks look promising two!
I'll be 9 dpo (finally almost double digits) tomorrow and testing FMU. Likely to be bfn but at least i can be on the down hill 😂
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Netti wake up and poas!!!! :):)
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 04:23 PM
Not out yet two!!! I was so thinking this morning was going to be positive! My temp just keeps rising??? I'm 5 dpo and never charted before so nothing to compare it to unfortunately. :(
Hoping to see some BFP in the next couple of days!!!! ;)
Fx for you boysboys!! You're almost at testing time!
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 04:28 PM
Momamia I agree with your dh and everyone else - ignore your nurses negativity!
pebmcpd7
August 23rd, 2015, 04:46 PM
Have not been on here in months!! I am 42 in September and I am after getting a BFP!!
I was finished with babies. I have 7 boys!!!
Haven't told the hubby yet. He will freak out!!
Not holding out any hope of this one been a girl. I did atomic diet for number 7 and it didn't work!! Did absolutely nothing this time round. I have weight on me!!!!
mommymachine
August 23rd, 2015, 04:48 PM
How many dpo are you mommymachine?
9. I know it is early but I do usually get my BFPs at 9 DPO. So that coupled with the spotting that I have had for 3 days, I think I am out.
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 04:49 PM
Have not been on here in months!! I am 42 in September and I am after getting a BFP!!
I was finished with babies. I have 7 boys!!!
Haven't told the hubby yet. He will freak out!!
Not holding out any hope of this one been a girl. I did atomic diet for number 7 and it didn't work!! Did absolutely nothing this time round. I have weight on me!!!!
Hi pebmcpd! When will you start ttc? Can I ask did you have a personalised plan for your sway opposite? Was it le diet and one attempt? Just curious as this is all my sway is atm :)
mommymachine
August 23rd, 2015, 04:50 PM
Have not been on here in months!! I am 42 in September and I am after getting a BFP!!
I was finished with babies. I have 7 boys!!!
Haven't told the hubby yet. He will freak out!!
Not holding out any hope of this one been a girl. I did atomic diet for number 7 and it didn't work!! Did absolutely nothing this time round. I have weight on me!!!!
Hope this is your girl! We had our littlest ones around the same time! I remember we were in the same due date group. Mine is 21 months and a half.
pebmcpd7
August 23rd, 2015, 04:54 PM
Hope this is your girl! We had our littlest ones around the same time! I remember we were in the same due date group. Mine is 21 months and a half.
Yeah my wee fella is 2 on the 8th October!!
pebmcpd7
August 23rd, 2015, 04:59 PM
Hi pebmcpd! When will you start ttc? Can I ask did you have a personalised plan for your sway opposite? Was it le diet and one attempt? Just curious as this is all my sway is atm :)
This is def an oops BFP!!
Yeah I had a personalised plan for baby number 7. But is obviously didn't work. But you know what I wouldn't change him for the world he is a wee pet!!
pebmcpd7
August 23rd, 2015, 05:00 PM
Can't believe I am back here!!! How the hell am I gonna tell DH!!!
And my family!!!
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 05:03 PM
This is def an oops BFP!!
Yeah I had a personalised plan for baby number 7. But is obviously didn't work. But you know what I wouldn't change him for the world he is a wee pet!!
Sorry I didn't realise you got a bfp! Congratulations!! I hope you hear pink!
netti02
August 23rd, 2015, 05:28 PM
Uggghhhhhh BFN. Not feeling pregnant at all today, af is due Saturday..still time.i guess and more waiting
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:34 PM
Can't believe I am back here!!! How the hell am I gonna tell DH!!!
And my family!!!��
Congrats on your BFP! Good luck telling everyone!! And... can I just say... WOW! 7 boys! My TWO wear me out lol. I'd be dragging myself across the floor with 7 lol. Kudos for being able to handle it!!
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sorry Netti :( as you said there's still time and Saturday is quite a ways off - alot can happen between now and then. fx you get a.different result in a few days!
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:37 PM
Uggghhhhhh BFN. Not feeling pregnant at all today, af is due Saturday..still time.i guess and more waiting
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
I know what you mean about not feeling preg. I mean there are a few small things like the headaches which I can explain away and my TTs being sore which could just be prog (they normally aren't this bad, but they have been much worse). Other than that, I got a big gaping whole of nothing lol. But like you said, there is still time for you to get your BFP! :fx:
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:40 PM
This is def an oops BFP!!
Yeah I had a personalised plan for baby number 7. But is obviously didn't work. But you know what I wouldn't change him for the world he is a wee pet!!
Oh wow! 7 boys would have me dragging myself across the floor, lol. My TWO boys wear me out lol. Then again you can't beat having 7 body guards for a baby sister or brother ;) Congrats on your BFP :bigsmile: Good luck telling your family!! I'm very curious what your DH's reaction will be!
Boysboys
August 23rd, 2015, 05:42 PM
I am only 5 dpo and no signs yet!lol I had all kinds of twinges last month just knowing I was Preggo and none of that has happened so far. I will say I am getting light headed A LOT. Every time I bend over I feel I go dizzy. Other than that nothing, it's very early. But I had every symptom in the book last month so I'm not banking on symptoms anyway.
Boysboys
August 23rd, 2015, 05:43 PM
Oh my goodness! 7 boys, how blessed you are!!! I would love 7 children, my DH would have stopped at 2 but I'm getting 3 out of him, Lord willing! I would LOVE 4.... I've always said maybe number four can be an oopsie (secret oopsie ;)
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:48 PM
Oh my goodness! 7 boys, how blessed you are!!! I would love 7 children, my DH would have stopped at 2 but I'm getting 3 out of him, Lord willing! I would LOVE 4.... I've always said maybe number four can be an oopsie (secret oopsie ;)
Lol @ "secret oopsie". DH and I would LOVE 5. But with my history we will be happy to get 3. I couldn't imagine getting #3 and then having even more losses after that. So 3 it shall be... unless we get trips :suprise: :giggle:
netti02
August 23rd, 2015, 05:49 PM
Thanks ladies. Im going to get a different brand and test again in the morning. Still not feeling the greatest with this cough i have. And its rainy today makes for a miserable Monday
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:57 PM
Thanks ladies. Im going to get a different brand and test again in the morning. Still not feeling the greatest with this cough i have. And its rainy today makes for a miserable Monday
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
:sad: I hope you feel better!! Yes, rainy day= day I want to stay home and sleep lol.
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 05:58 PM
I'm trying to get up the "want to" to start school tomorrow. Last week when I went to get my books (on Thurs.) I was gung-ho. But the last 2-3 days I just don't want to do ANYTHING. I have like zero motivation. I am arguing with myself (figuratively of course) trying to get up the gumption to go take a shower.... Tomorrow is not something I am looking forward to lol. Which is odd because it has to come for me to be able to test lol. Unfortunately, 9 hours of lectures kinda over shadows the faint possibility of a BFP. *sigh* Anyway, so if I don't check in much tomorrow, now you know why :)
momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 06:01 PM
Tmi, I just had the most intense series of nausea, cramping, and really weird severe lightning-like cramps in my butt. It lasted for about 30 mins and went away completely after I finally threw up. 0.o I've never had that happen before! Any ideas on what it was? It came on just as quickly as it was over.
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twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 06:16 PM
Tmi, I just had the most intense series of nausea, cramping, and really weird severe lightning-like cramps in my butt. It lasted for about 30 mins and went away completely after I finally threw up. 0.o I've never had that happen before! Any ideas on what it was? It came on just as quickly as it was over.
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First lightning crotch and now lightning butt... we are quiet the "shocking" group lol ;) :giggle: Honestly, I don't know... TMI question but have you #2'd recently? Maybe the pressure of you getting sick, or fighting getting sick, activated your bowel for a short bit??
twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 06:22 PM
Momamia- Another question... is your tummy on the sensitive side normally? I ask because nausea+cramping+ shooting pains sounds a lot like what I deal with with my tummy issues (which are much more sensitive when preg)... throw in fainting or feeling like I'm going to faint and reverse the direction relief heads and it would sound exactly the same. So, it makes me wonder... If you normally have a sensitive tummy (not necessarily messed up like mine, just sensitive to certain food types for example) then it may be worse now that you are preg and you may be reacting to something you ate or drank, even if it's something that normally doesn't bother you... Just a thought :)
momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 07:04 PM
Two, when I last #2'd is a great question! It was about 4 hours before this happened. I do normally have tummy issues. I tried to go to a GI specialist to figure out what was causing it but all he did was give me meds to treat the symptoms that I complained about. I think you're right about the pregnancy making them worse. I ate some Taco Bell for lunch and it didn't sit well. I think it might have been a combination of me doing too much this weekend and the Taco Bell. I think it was just too much for my body to handle. A few months ago, I went to a naturopath who wants me to do a full panel of food sensitivity testing. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover it and it's expensive. I'm hoping I'll be able to get it done in another month or so. I am really sick of feeling sick all the time and I really believe that eliminating trigger foods will really help me. BTW, LMAO about the "shocking" group thing!!!!!
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twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 07:17 PM
Two, when I last #2'd is a great question! It was about 4 hours before this happened. I do normally have tummy issues. I tried to go to a GI specialist to figure out what was causing it but all he did was give me meds to treat the symptoms that I complained about. I think you're right about the pregnancy making them worse. I ate some Taco Bell for lunch and it didn't sit well. I think it might have been a combination of me doing too much this weekend and the Taco Bell. I think it was just too much for my body to handle. A few months ago, I went to a naturopath who wants me to do a full panel of food sensitivity testing. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover it and it's expensive. I'm hoping I'll be able to get it done in another month or so. I am really sick of feeling sick all the time and I really believe that eliminating trigger foods will really help me. BTW, LMAO about the "shocking" group thing!!!!!
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Sounds about right then my triggers are fatty food (really high fat, not normal fatty like meats) and sugars... sometimes. There are certain sugary things I know are safe go tos when I want them like reese cups and semi-sweet (aka half cut) tea for example. But when preg it seems like every thing sets my stomach off. I was sick for weeks before I put 2and 2 together because I wasn't anything tgat would normally set my tummy off. I think getting that food sensitivity thing is a great plan!!
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kperez0222
August 23rd, 2015, 07:59 PM
Yeah my wee fella is 2 on the 8th October!!
My youngest is 2 on the 16th of october! :) due April 11th 16 with (hopefully) our boy!
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kperez0222
August 23rd, 2015, 08:00 PM
Can't believe I am back here!!! How the hell am I gonna tell DH!!!
And my family!!!😳
I'm I'm the same boat honey. My family will just be "disappointed"
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momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 08:06 PM
Does anyone know how to add a signature in the mobile view?
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kperez0222
August 23rd, 2015, 08:10 PM
Sounds about right then my triggers are fatty food (really high fat, not normal fatty like meats) and sugars... sometimes. There are certain sugary things I know are safe go tos when I want them like reese cups and semi-sweet (aka half cut) tea for example. But when preg it seems like every thing sets my stomach off. I was sick for weeks before I put 2and 2 together because I wasn't anything tgat would normally set my tummy off. I think getting that food sensitivity thing is a great plan!!
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I have this problem. Honestly, it's if I'm clogged up with either poo, or gas and I get SO sick to my stomach. I'll take a gas x if I REALLY need it, but I realize I'll start getting a headache, then feel flushed get really winded and feel faint. Then the nausea kicks in and me having a phobia of vomiting, my nerves go haywire. It sucks... especially being pregnant and I can't take the usual acid reducers or gas x to avoid these problems.
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twointow83
August 23rd, 2015, 08:27 PM
I have this problem. Honestly, it's if I'm clogged up with either poo, or gas and I get SO sick to my stomach. I'll take a gas x if I REALLY need it, but I realize I'll start getting a headache, then feel flushed get really winded and feel faint. Then the nausea kicks in and me having a phobia of vomiting, my nerves go haywire. It sucks... especially being pregnant and I can't take the usual acid reducers or gas x to avoid these problems.
B♡K♡G♡L
Yes, being preg and TTC def complicates things as far as what you can do. I normally have an arsenal of anti-spasmodics, gass relief meds, etc. Which, as you know, can't be used if there is a chance of preg. Sorry to hear you have issues too :(
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Quinn31
August 23rd, 2015, 09:20 PM
Wow. I took a weekend vacation and came back to hundreds of posts. You ladies are fast. Good luck to those still in the 2ww. I'm in the fun O wait.
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tfahn
August 23rd, 2015, 10:41 PM
When do u think u will O Quinn? I think I finally O'd yesterday, CD20. Let the 2ww begin!!
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 10:47 PM
Fx tfahn!!
momamia4
August 23rd, 2015, 11:08 PM
FX tfahn!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
mammacass
August 23rd, 2015, 11:14 PM
Well I hope they get shorter for you :) let us know how it goes after a few days if that's ok? Feel free to post a pic of your chart anytime! I for one love looking/analyzing etc lol :)
Hi just an update, I decided to put my 4am temp in as per Two, and also this mornings temp was way back down so no crosshairs now and pretty confident it was just because I was unwell. Thankyou for your help :)
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netti02
August 23rd, 2015, 11:42 PM
Hi Ladies
Does any one use the cheapy ovulation and pregnancy tests.. i found some on ebay and i am tempted to buy some but thought id see if they are worth it first
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Pbn3
August 23rd, 2015, 11:59 PM
Netti I bought a pack of 50 cheap from an aussie website fertility2family I think it was and got only one positive and 49 negatives lol. Moved straight onto the dual digital from there. More expensive but they work - for me anyway. Had some issues last cycle with them but I was over testing and think I buggered it. Using again next cycle but will stick to proper use as the two cycles prior they didn't miss a beat :)
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 12:00 AM
oh and I don't know about the hpts as I cant find any cheapies in chemists anywhere so normally get the frer 3pk.
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 12:04 AM
Yeh i was checking out ebay 60 opks and 30 hpts $16. Must be having a downer moment about the bfn. Its just too early and trying to tell myself otherwise 😂😂 CM is back to being abit strange again though. Im using clear blue in the morning will see how i go
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 12:13 AM
I wouldn't be shopping yet either if I were you lol :) fx for when you test next. Are you waiting till 12dpo? I just dont think the cb digi's are the most sensitive is all and not to trust a bfn at 10dpo :)
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 12:16 AM
I think ill be testing everyday til Af is due 😂😂😂😂
The only ones ive been able to find are cb and fr. I don't have the digital of the cb's does that make a difference?
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 12:36 AM
oh sorry I thought you had cb digitals lol. Another poas addict :):) I'm like 'surely the next test 3rd for the day will be positive' lol
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 12:42 AM
Rofl yep definitely an addict. Thats what had me thinking if this is gonna take a while i need some cheapies or ill be broke 😂😂😂
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 03:16 AM
Bfn. Moving on to get ready for next cycle. .. and going back to sleep lol.
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Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 03:40 AM
Hugs two :( this sucks!
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 04:20 AM
Ughh hugs two xx
Im not feeling confident alot of af pains...
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 05:14 AM
Hugs two :( this sucks!
It's okay. I honestly expected it. I started getting AF cramps again yesterday. At first I tried to tell myself it was just my tummy acting up again but after awhile I kinda knew. I had DH go pick up my scripts for next cycle (the clomid... and I was out of FA too) yesterday afternoon. So, I'll be preg in may.... not loving the thought but it is what it is. Funny part is that if we conceive next cycle I'll be due less than a week from my youngest's b-day and prob deliver just a couple weeks before it. If not then the next cycle I am looking at being due around MY b-day and if we have to go for round 5 TTC I'll be due around DS#1's b-day. As you can prob tell all our b-days are clustered together. Dh in April, losses in May, DS #3 in June, me in July and DS #1 in August. So, unless it takes 6+ months of TTC to get preg, the baby will be due around SOMEBODY'S b-day :D
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 05:15 AM
Ughh hugs two xx
Im not feeling confident alot of af pains...
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Hugs. Hopefully it is just implantation or something.
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Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 05:20 AM
How's this two? I got af yesterday 23rd and on that exact date two years ago I conceived ds2. I was charting so knew I oed on the 23rd August lol :)
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 05:38 AM
How's this two? I got af yesterday 23rd and on that exact date two years ago I conceived ds2. I was charting so knew I oed on the 23rd August lol :)
Lol, it's weird how that stuff sticks with you and how it works out sometimes.
I find it amusing how the # patterns worked out with DS #1&3's b-days. DS #1 was born 8/7/06 (8, 7, 6) & DS #3 was born 6-4-10 (6+4=10) lol. And it wasn't planned that way lol. Doc picked the day both times! Well, actually with #3 we were given the choice of the 4th or the 7th and I wasn't about to be stuck in the hosp on DH and I's anniversary so we chose the 4th but i didnt think about the #s until after, lol. Less amuzing is loss # 1 (ds#2) was concieved just before Christmas and loss #2 (DD #1) was due just before Christmas. Its odd how this stuff works out ...
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Boysboys
August 24th, 2015, 06:59 AM
Sorry two :( I have a strong feeling I will be joined Ming you girls as well. Bribing big, just absolutely no feeling I'm pregnant. We shall see.
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 07:30 AM
Sorry two :( I have a strong feeling I will be joined Ming you girls as well. Bribing big, just absolutely no feeling I'm pregnant. We shall see.
Bribing big? How many DPO are you again?
Boysboys
August 24th, 2015, 09:45 AM
Nothing big ***lol
6 dpo.
Laurenk1424
August 24th, 2015, 09:47 AM
Bfn. Moving on to get ready for next cycle. .. and going back to sleep lol.
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Sorry Two :(
Ain't Flo showed today for me which gave me a 28 day cycle which has never happened for me! I always have weird 30,32,34 day cycles.
I really hope next month is our month!
Oh AND I've temped two days in a row and both days was the exact same.... As I'm guessing it should be.
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YayBaby678
August 24th, 2015, 11:04 AM
Hi Ladies! I was super busy over the weekend and didn't get a chance to check in. I'm sorry Pbn, Lauren, and Two!! Hang in there ladies, you will get that BFP soon enough! FX for your BFP netti!
Momamia - I have everything crossed for you. I'm not sure if you mentioned it, but what's the next step as far as appointments go?
Boysboys - don't count yourself out yet. I had less symptoms this cycle than I do normally before AF.
GL to those just starting the 2WW and those waiting to O!
AFM - So just thought I would send an update on this post:
I haven't been posting much but have been following. You ladies are all so close to finding out if you'll get your BFP! FX for all of you still waiting to test.
AFM - I'm starting to get worried. I might have jumped to soon adding myself to the due date club and posting my sway attempt. My temp is falling and this morning's wondfo test isn't any darker than Wed night's. I'm going to use another FRER tomorrow morning and hope it's much darker than the test I took on Tuesday morning. Cross those fingers extra tight for me!
The top pic is from this morning...
My temp jumped back up to 98.6 the next morning (Saturday). I opened up a new box of FRERs and was disappointed to find that they were those new curvy "comfort" tests. There was a line but at 15 dpo, it wasn't much darker than the line on the old style FRER at 11 dpo. So of course I worried the entire day. I went out to my local drugstore that night to see if I could find the old style of FRER tests. Luckily I found a 2-pack. Tested the next morning and the line was nice and dark. So while I'm feeling more positive, I'm going to be anxious until I get blood test results. I have an endocrinologist appointment this afternoon regarding my thyroid issues and I'm going to ask (beg) her to test my hcg level as well. Should I also ask for another lab order for 2 days from now to make sure the numbers are doubling? I feel like doctors are so stingy with wanted to do any kind of testing that the patient asks for, at least that's how it seems where I'm at.
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mommymachine
August 24th, 2015, 11:12 AM
BFN at 10 DPO. I'd be shocked if I get a BFP at this point.
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momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 11:31 AM
Yaybaby, I have to keep repeating the blood tests until my levels get up to 2000 and then I get to have an ultrasound. I'm really hoping that happens this week. I've been trying to will my body to produce more hcg, lol!!! Honestly though, I've been trying my best to not think about the low levels. DH read that stress can effect your hcg levels, so I've been trying to relax. It's proving very difficult! I took my digital hpt today and was very happy with the result as I feel it's right on target! The 2-3 means weeks since ovulation and I'm 3 weeks 2 days since ovulation. It makes me feel better even though I know it's a range.
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Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
Quinn31
August 24th, 2015, 12:22 PM
Happy some people have good news but hopefully next month is our lucky month. I don't really want a May due date because it's the end of the school year and that means I don't get much maternity leave, maybe 3 weeks. If I have a baby in the summer, I can take 12 weeks at the beginning of the year. Of course, after my last ttc fiasco with dd2, I would love to get pregnant fast again!!
One interesting thing atomic told me was to stop feeling and acting so defeated in the 2ww because it's a recipe for another girl. I've noticed a lot of boy moms here seem so confident in the 2ww so I'm going to take a tip from you guys and go through the 2ww expecting I'll end up pregnant. You all seem to get pregnant fast so you must be doing something right!
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momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 01:13 PM
Quinn, I'm sorry if my posting here upset you. I didn't mean to upset anyone. FX you get your bfp quickly! It's interesting what you said about outlook during the 2ww. My sister (a girl mom) generally has a negative outlook during her 2ww's. It's just the way she perceives everything. It's almost like she focuses on the worst so that if something better happens, she can be excited about it. I am the opposite. I have a positive outlook and like to focus on the best outcome. I generally am not sad when something other than what I was hoping for happens because that's life. I wonder if somehow it's related to our natural tendency towards boys or girls. It's intriguing to think about! Thanks for bringing it up! :)
YayBaby678
August 24th, 2015, 01:24 PM
Yaybaby, I have to keep repeating the blood tests until my levels get up to 2000 and then I get to have an ultrasound. I'm really hoping that happens this week. I've been trying to will my body to produce more hcg, lol!!! Honestly though, I've been trying my best to not think about the low levels. DH read that stress can effect your hcg levels, so I've been trying to relax. It's proving very difficult! I took my digital hpt today and was very happy with the result as I feel it's right on target! The 2-3 means weeks since ovulation and I'm 3 weeks 2 days since ovulation. It makes me feel better even though I know it's a range.
Praying for a sticky bean!
I will say a prayer for you momamia! I hope its a sticky baby! Good thinking trying to relax.
Quinn - I hope there is some truth to your statement because I've been feeling defeated every month lol. But I remember feeling the same when we had DS so who knows. My lifestyle is normally very boy friendly though so that probably has more to do with it.
momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 01:35 PM
Thanks yaybaby! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
Quinn31
August 24th, 2015, 01:36 PM
Quinn, I'm sorry if my posting here upset you. I didn't mean to upset anyone. FX you get your bfp quickly! It's interesting what you said about outlook during the 2ww. My sister (a girl mom) generally has a negative outlook during her 2ww's. It's just the way she perceives everything. It's almost like she focuses on the worst so that if something better happens, she can be excited about it. I am the opposite. I have a positive outlook and like to focus on the best outcome. I generally am not sad when something other than what I was hoping for happens because that's life. I wonder if somehow it's related to our natural tendency towards boys or girls. It's intriguing to think about! Thanks for bringing it up! :)
Don't be sorry at all! I'm glad I could see another perspective. I've been pregnant fast twice and slow once. I'm just starting our second month ttc so there's no need for me to panic already.
I love that people have a positive perspective and I wish I naturally did too. I'm going to assume I'm pregnant this next 2ww!!
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momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 01:49 PM
That sounds like a great plan, quinn! :D I am going to too, lol!
XXforhubby
August 24th, 2015, 02:01 PM
Huge congrats Yaybaby!!
Momamia- I bet you have a slow cooker in there like I did with my DS2!! FX your kevs keep rising!!!
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momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 02:01 PM
Thanks XX!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
pebmcpd7
August 24th, 2015, 04:50 PM
My youngest is 2 on the 16th of october! :) due April 11th 16 with (hopefully) our boy!
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If this works out. I am round end of April start of May!! So close again. Hopefully we get what we want this time!!
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 05:04 PM
BFN at 10 DPO. I'd be shocked if I get a BFP at this point.
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Sorry mommymachine :( I understand feeling defeated with bfn at 10dpo but I always carry a small glimmer of hope through to 12dpo and I hope you get that bfp in a couple days
essnce629
August 24th, 2015, 06:35 PM
Hey everyone, nice to see all the pics! I've been off the boards for a few days as it was DS1's 12th birthday last week and his party this weekend.
He's a pic of DS2 and I from last month.
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Laurenk1424
August 24th, 2015, 07:26 PM
Is there a sept tww group yet? It's soooo quiet in here.
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momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 07:27 PM
I don't think there is yet Lauren
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
momamia4
August 24th, 2015, 07:28 PM
Just kidding!!! There is!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 07:28 PM
Yes there is Lauren come on over :)
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 07:39 PM
Sorry Two :(
Ain't Flo showed today for me which gave me a 28 day cycle which has never happened for me! I always have weird 30,32,34 day cycles.
I really hope next month is our month!
Oh AND I've temped two days in a row and both days was the exact same.... As I'm guessing it should be.
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It can happen from time to time but is more common when not using a basal therm. Are you using a BBT therm or regular therm?
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 07:42 PM
BFN at 10 DPO. I'd be shocked if I get a BFP at this point.
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Hugs! Don't give up just yet.
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 07:42 PM
Hey Lauren I feel like the queen of flatlining temps lol I bought a 2 point basal thermometer for this cycle coming for more accurate readings :)
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 07:47 PM
Happy some people have good news but hopefully next month is our lucky month. I don't really want a May due date because it's the end of the school year and that means I don't get much maternity leave, maybe 3 weeks. If I have a baby in the summer, I can take 12 weeks at the beginning of the year. Of course, after my last ttc fiasco with dd2, I would love to get pregnant fast again!!
One interesting thing atomic told me was to stop feeling and acting so defeated in the 2ww because it's a recipe for another girl. I've noticed a lot of boy moms here seem so confident in the 2ww so I'm going to take a tip from you guys and go through the 2ww expecting I'll end up pregnant. You all seem to get pregnant fast so you must be doing something right!
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Ok. Confusion... I thought us boy moms where like super stressing over details and to sway girl we need to chill out and go with the flow... be Mary and not Martha, etc. So, I have been trying to be confident and zen about it and now I hear that sways boy...?? :think::suprise::confused:
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 07:52 PM
Ok. Confusion... I thought us boy moms where like super stressing over details and to sway girl we need to chill out and go with the flow... be Mary and not Martha, etc. So, I have been trying to be confident and zen about it and now I hear that sways boy...?? :think::suprise::confused:
lol two! I think we all think too much. feels abit like damned if you do damned if you dont :):)
Quinn31
August 24th, 2015, 07:54 PM
Ok. Confusion... I thought us boy moms where like super stressing over details and to sway girl we need to chill out and go with the flow... be Mary and not Martha, etc. So, I have been trying to be confident and zen about it and now I hear that sways boy...?? :think::suprise::confused:
"PLEASE PLEASE try not to look at this as this complicated thing that you have to get exactly perfectly or dire consequences will result. That's a recipe for another girl because it makes you feel defeated and overwhelmed because there is ALWAYS some other miracle pill that could possibly be taken, exercise that could be done, or negative thought or fear in your mind."
That is what Atomic said to me so it's a little different than how I relayed it to you. I think it's just a girl mom's tendency to think it's not good enough and be full of anxiety. I'm sure everyone feels stressed during the 2ww but maybe we take it to the extreme in a negative way and boy mom's get stressed but still think they'll get a bfp? I'm not sure but I know I've been an anxious mess this time and I'm really trying to turn it around.
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 08:00 PM
lol two! I think we all think too much. feels abit like damned if you do damned if you dont :):)
Sounds about right... :giggle:
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 08:27 PM
Today was SUCH a long day! I am a little shocked AF didn't show today because I have been uber-cramping all day. BUT I just checked my cervix and it's still closed up tight as a drum and firm, so today will not be the day. It's looking like I might be getting a 27 or 28 day cycle, depending on when AF shows. Just praying that AF isn't as brutal as the ones have been since my D&C in May. Praying I've healed enough to AT LEAST be halfway better... something where Aleve is enough and I don't have too pull out the BIG guns. For one I am almost out of them! Normally a bottle (30 day supply) of Rx painkiller will last months, sometimes even a year or more. I am not a big pain killer person, I don't like the way they make me feel. BUT since May I have gone through a bottle of 800 mg motrin and a half bottle of tramadol, all almost exclusively during AF though I did take 1 pill of tramadol a day for 3 days around O this cycle. SMH. So, an Aleve suitable AF would be welcome relief!! This slow healing non-sense has worn out its welcome :giggle:
Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 08:36 PM
I hope af goes easier on you two! Me and Lauren were just saying in sep 2ww how unusually bad af cramps were this cycle
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 08:40 PM
I hope af goes easier on you two! Me and Lauren were just saying in sep 2ww how unusually bad af cramps were this cycle
Ugh! That sucks! Hopefully it passes quickly for you both!
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netti02
August 24th, 2015, 10:10 PM
Hey ladies
Need to clarify something. I got a positive opk on saturday 15th (in the afternoon). Assuming i ovulated the 16th is this classed as 1 dpo or is it the Monday 17th classed as 1dpo. Just trying to clarify how many dpo i am as i think ive confused myself.
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Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 10:12 PM
Netti if you oed on the 16th you'd be 1dpo on the 17th. HTH :)
twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 10:13 PM
Hey ladies
Need to clarify something. I got a positive opk on saturday 15th (in the afternoon). Assuming i ovulated the 16th is this classed as 1 dpo or is it the Monday 17th classed as 1dpo. Just trying to clarify how many dpo i am as i think ive confused myself.
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Monday is 1DPO. 1 DPO is the same as O+1.
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 10:23 PM
O emmm geee. This silly app had me one day ahead and im only 9 dpo today lol. No wonder nothing would be showing if i was utd!!
I did get a negative opk on the Sunday would it be more likely that i did ovulate on the Sunday not the Monday? Im just worried as our attempt was on the Friday PM and im stressing i missed the boat.
I have no more hpts in the house and im trying to hold off til the end of the week 😂😂
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 10:26 PM
O emmm geee. This silly app had me one day ahead and im only 9 dpo today lol. No wonder nothing would be showing if i was utd!!
I did get a negative opk on the Sunday would it be more likely that i did ovulate on the Sunday not the Monday? Im just worried as our attempt was on the Friday PM and im stressing i missed the boat.
I have no more hpts in the house and im trying to hold off til the end of the week 😂😂
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
It could go either way... sorry I'm not more help :(
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Pbn3
August 24th, 2015, 10:30 PM
I'd wait two days and test again Netti - no way to know for sure which day you did o unless temping :( very likely Sunday but possibly Monday or even Saturday late depending when you caught the surge....
netti02
August 24th, 2015, 10:34 PM
Yeh thats what i thought. I do remember having O pains on the Saturday afternoon/evening though. So im hoping Sunday was the day.
To top it off weather in Sydney is down right miserable, the washing pile is as high as everest and i jammed one of my fingers in the car door.
My rant for the day 😁
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 10:38 PM
Yeh thats what i thought. I do remember having O pains on the Saturday afternoon/evening though. So im hoping Sunday was the day.
To top it off weather in Sydney is down right miserable, the washing pile is as high as everest and i jammed one of my fingers in the car door.
My rant for the day 😁
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Ouch! No good at all. (((Hugs)))
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twointow83
August 24th, 2015, 10:40 PM
Grrr! I hate AF cramp before AF starts. You can't take anything on the microscopic chance you might get a BFP and AF gets to torture you before she even shows. Pbbbt on it!
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netti02
August 24th, 2015, 10:43 PM
I know two! Ive been cramping since the wkend on and off. Dont ever recall getting af pains this early but my memory isnt the best anymore after 4 boys 😂😂😂
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twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 04:48 AM
This is new... can't remember this ever happening... but I did wake up with a sore throat and stuffy nose so that might explain it.
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Atsaukina1
August 25th, 2015, 05:04 AM
Day 3 dpo. I never get af cramps or O pains but man I have been very achey in my lower abdomen. Don't think it means anything but sure is annoying and I get a taste of what some moms feel monthly. Yikes. Uggg this 2ww is the worst.
Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 05:08 AM
This is new... can't remember this ever happening... but I did wake up with a sore throat and stuffy nose so that might explain it.
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did you do a test just in case???
Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 05:09 AM
Day 3 dpo. I never get af cramps or O pains but man I have been very achey in my lower abdomen. Don't think it means anything but sure is annoying and I get a taste of what some moms feel monthly. Yikes. Uggg this 2ww is the worst.
fx for you! The 2ww is the longest two weeks of your life lol
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 06:07 AM
The tww is killing me!! This afternoon i felt really light headed like my blood pressure dropped which i did have low bp with my last 2 boys.....and i felt sick at one point and had an achey pelvis..... and no hpts LOL left 😂😂😂
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netti02
August 25th, 2015, 06:09 AM
Oh and boy have i been in a mood the past 2 days for no reason at all 😂😂😂
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 06:11 AM
Netti you need to go to a 24hr chemist now lol!! Or woolies or coles whatever is closest! fx for you sounds very promising!
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 06:13 AM
Lol weather is atrocious. Very windy and ive just had a shower..i may get one tmro and test thurs will see how i feel. But the nausea this arvo and that light headed feeling really got me back peddling.....
How are u feeling two?
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Boysboys
August 25th, 2015, 07:05 AM
[QUOTE=netti02;750084]Lol weather is atrocious. Very windy and ive just had a shower..i may get one tmro and test thurs will see how i feel. But the nausea this arvo and that light headed feeling really got me back peddling.....
How are u feeling two?
Light headedness was my first for sure sign I was Preggo with DS2!!!;)
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 07:25 AM
did you do a test just in case???
Yep. Bfn.
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 07:28 AM
oh darn :(
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 07:28 AM
Lol weather is atrocious. Very windy and ive just had a shower..i may get one tmro and test thurs will see how i feel. But the nausea this arvo and that light headed feeling really got me back peddling.....
How are u feeling two?
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
GL! Hope your BFP is on the way.
Honestly I feel like crud. Crampy and like I have a cold.
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daisy4
August 25th, 2015, 07:44 AM
Sorry to the ladies who have not gotten a bfp yet, hoping next month will be it for you.
Fx momamia on your blood work today.
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momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 08:37 AM
Thanks Daisy! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
mandyp85
August 25th, 2015, 08:39 AM
Good luck today momamia. Hope you have good news. Xxx
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 08:40 AM
Thanks Mandy!
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 10:28 AM
Mommia- my classes are back to back today so I won't get to check in until this evening but I wanted to say GL and I'm sending prayers!
Boysboys
August 25th, 2015, 11:04 AM
Praying for you mommamia!! :)
mommymachine
August 25th, 2015, 11:19 AM
Hope all goes well Momamia.
BFN at 11DPO. I will try again tomorrow morning then I will be done this cycle.
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 11:23 AM
FX mommymachine!
Thanks ladies!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 12:43 PM
Good luck momamia!! Hope your numbers are perfect!
I ended up seeing my endocrinologist yesterday for my annual thyroid check up. I asked if she would test my hcg since I was going for a blood test for my thryoid levels anyways. Well I was 4w, 4d yesterday and my level is only 111. They didn't say anything about doing another test for tomorrow so I called back and requested it so we'll see what happens. I have an appointment with my midwife on Thursday so at least I'll be having another blood test at that point. Ughhhh I'm going to be way too stressed these next few days.
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 12:47 PM
Yaybaby, my level was 141 at 4w6d. Your level is still within normal limits. Here's the normal range: 4 weeks LMP: 5 – 426 mIU/ml
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
XXforhubby
August 25th, 2015, 12:52 PM
Yaybaby, my level was 141 at 4w5d. Your level is still within normal limits. Here's the normal range: 4 weeks LMP: 5 – 426 mIU/ml
Praying for a sticky [emoji166] bean!
Yeah, I freaked out when my levels at 4w3d was 20,562! Two days later they were 23,083!!! My dates were spot on and we only have one cooking in there!! I was worried for different reasons!!!
With my DS2, he was a slow cooker as say! My levels were slow to rise and he is a healthy 2yr old!!!
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momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 01:10 PM
Yaybaby, go to betabase.info they have a lot of ranges from actual women. You could also go to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) - hCG Levels (http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/hcg-levels/) They have a lot of info too. Please try not to stress. I think your levels are just fine! :D
AFM, I called my RE's office about an hour ago and requested that they put a note in my chart for the nurse not to mention miscarriage. I told them all it does is cause me extreme stress for 4 days until I go in and get tested again. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen whether or not the nurse "warns me." The office woman was very nice and kept apologizing. She said she would put a note in my chart for me. Now, to sit here and wait for the results. Hopefully they'll call in the next hour. FX for high numbers! :D
YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 01:37 PM
Yaybaby, my level was 141 at 4w6d. Your level is still within normal limits. Here's the normal range: 4 weeks LMP: 5 – 426 mIU/ml
Praying for a sticky bean!
Thanks momamia and XX. Wow those are some high numbers XX!!!
Momamia, in regards to that range - this has to depend on when implantation occurs right? So maybe if implantation occurs at 12 dpo, then the numbers could be on the lower end of that range at 4 weeks (14 dpo) pregnant. But I would think if I got a clear positive at 10 dpo, then hcg probably had to be at least 25 at that point for it to be detected on an HPT, then my number should be higher than 111 at this point.
Sorry ladies if I shouldn't be posting this kind of thing in this forum! Hope its ok, or let me know if I should head over to the due date club or elsewhere...
YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 01:39 PM
Yaybaby, go to betabase.info they have a lot of ranges from actual women. You could also go to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) - hCG Levels (http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/hcg-levels/) They have a lot of info too. Please try not to stress. I think your levels are just fine! :D
AFM, I called my RE's office about an hour ago and requested that they put a note in my chart for the nurse not to mention miscarriage. I told them all it does is cause me extreme stress for 4 days until I go in and get tested again. If it's going to happen, it's going to happen whether or not the nurse "warns me." The office woman was very nice and kept apologizing. She said she would put a note in my chart for me. Now, to sit here and wait for the results. Hopefully they'll call in the next hour. FX for high numbers! :D
Just looked at betabase, thank you. Looks like I'm not out yet. But most women do have higher numbers at this point.
Good thinking making that request and I'm glad they were nice about it. FX for great numbers!
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 01:40 PM
I'm not sure yaybaby. I think the hpt are more sensitive than they claim as I had a line 12dpo and the same day my hcg was only at 9!
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 01:43 PM
I'm not sure yaybaby. I think the hpt are more sensitive than they claim as I had a line 12dpo and the same day my hcg was only at 9!
Praying for a sticky bean!
Oh wow, was it a FRER?
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 01:44 PM
Yup and a dollar store test. The dollar store one was actually darker than the frer
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
kperez0222
August 25th, 2015, 02:03 PM
Yeah, I freaked out when my levels at 4w3d was 20,562! Two days later they were 23,083!!! My dates were spot on and we only have one cooking in there!! I was worried for different reasons!!!
With my DS2, he was a slow cooker as say! My levels were slow to rise and he is a healthy 2yr old!!!
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This makes me happy! I was at 655 at 4 weeks 2 days and my husband keeps poking fun at me having twins.
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YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 02:05 PM
Yup and a dollar store test. The dollar store one was actually darker than the frer
Praying for a sticky bean!
Ok, good to know. That helps me to hold out a little hope. I used a FRER and a wondfo and both had clear positives.
XXforhubby
August 25th, 2015, 02:19 PM
This makes me happy! I was at 655 at 4 weeks 2 days and my husband keeps poking fun at me having twins.
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Yeah, we were scared we were going to have quintuplets!!!!
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momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 02:39 PM
I just got the call from the nurse. My level increased from 141 to 303 in the last 4 days. I have to go back again on Saturday to have another blood test. My doubling time was a little slower this time at 86.99 hours. I am 24dpo today. I'm still holding onto hope that everything will be fine. At the rate, I don't think I'll be having my ultrasound for at least another week and a half.
Hitmebabyonemoretime
August 25th, 2015, 05:31 PM
I haven't been on - but quickly scrolled through like 9 pages of posts trying to get caught up. I'll be looking for the sept group to cheer you on.
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netti02
August 25th, 2015, 05:47 PM
Best of luck momamia xx
Ive had abit of spotting this morning completely baffled as to what it could be.....im cd 25 never had a cycle this short in my life. I don't have any cramps with it atm so ill sit patiently for a few days before i test. I was going to get one this morning but ill wait and bake a chocolate cake instead and see how my day goes.
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twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 07:27 PM
Hope all goes well Momamia.
BFN at 11DPO. I will try again tomorrow morning then I will be done this cycle.
Sorry about the BFN. GL in the morning :)
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 07:28 PM
Good luck momamia!! Hope your numbers are perfect!
I ended up seeing my endocrinologist yesterday for my annual thyroid check up. I asked if she would test my hcg since I was going for a blood test for my thryoid levels anyways. Well I was 4w, 4d yesterday and my level is only 111. They didn't say anything about doing another test for tomorrow so I called back and requested it so we'll see what happens. I have an appointment with my midwife on Thursday so at least I'll be having another blood test at that point. Ughhhh I'm going to be way too stressed these next few days.
Prayers and :fingers:
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 07:35 PM
I just got the call from the nurse. My level increased from 141 to 303 in the last 4 days. I have to go back again on Saturday to have another blood test. My doubling time was a little slower this time at 86.99 hours. I am 24dpo today. I'm still holding onto hope that everything will be fine. At the rate, I don't think I'll be having my ultrasound for at least another week and a half.
Prayers for you. Just keep on keeping on, hope and prayers is all you, or anyone else can do. Hopefully s/he just thinks they're in the crockpot instead of the oven ;)
momamia4
August 25th, 2015, 07:39 PM
Thanks two!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 08:03 PM
So, no AF today, but I honestly have no idea when to expect it. This will be my first charted cycle where O can be precise pinpointed AND nothing to interfere with AF arrival. First ever clomid cycle wasn't charted, second was charted but O could have been either of 2 days- one making my LP 10 days and the other making it 14 days... then last cycle was a CP that was 15 days... almost 16.. if AF started an hour later I would have had a 16 day LP. So I am going with a 14 day LP but I honestly don't know. Just checked my CP and just like yesterday it is still low, firm and closed tight as a drum so it won't be showing tonight.
Did something I prob shouldn't have but given I'm 99.99999999999999% sure AF is coming I took some meds to relieve my suffering. I took my anti-spasm pill due to tummy issues and an Aleve. I just couldn't take it any longer. Today was day 5 in a row having tummy issues, headaches and AF cramps in some form/combination. Gonna hate myself if I somehow get a miraculous BFP but I was in SOOOOOOOO much pain this morning and I just couldn't deal anymore.
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 08:06 PM
Very strange two....
Theres no point being in pain though. Hugs you get some answers soon im in the same strange boat atm 😂😂
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twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 08:08 PM
Very strange two....
Theres no point being in pain though. Hugs you get some answers soon im in the same strange boat atm 😂😂
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Hugs. I'm sorry to hear that :(
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munky219
August 25th, 2015, 08:30 PM
Out of curiosity, do y'all know what a j&d is, technically? I waited 5 minutes and then peed, but I didn't do the whole "semen emitting" technique. Just wondering how much that decreases your odds of pregnancy. Thanks :)
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 08:47 PM
Out of curiosity, do y'all know what a j&d is, technically? I waited 5 minutes and then peed, but I didn't do the whole "semen emitting" technique. Just wondering how much that decreases your odds of pregnancy. Thanks :)
I just get up and go pee... I don't know anything about a sperm emitting technique.
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YayBaby678
August 25th, 2015, 09:09 PM
Sorry you're having so much pain two! Hopefully you get some relief soon.
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 10:03 PM
fx for you momamia!
Two that sounds awful hope you're feeling better!
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 10:12 PM
fx for you momamia!
Two that sounds awful hope you're feeling better!
Yes! Very! The anti-spasm meds knocked out the AF cramps as well as the intestinal spasms caused by my tummy issues and the aleve took the edge off my headach. So I have essentially been painless since I caved and took the meds.
I feel like I sound so whiney and like a pain woose but I promise this is not normal for me! Normally, I don't deal with a lot of pain and can cope when I do but lately for some reason it seems to to have gone from "sneaky toddler" to a cranky "teen" with an FU mentality lol. SMH. I don't know why... would love to know, but I guess it is what it is.
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netti02
August 25th, 2015, 10:21 PM
Looks like ill be joining the sept 2ww group, surely this has to be AF? Would like to know what is up with my cycles..... silly body
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 10:31 PM
Looks like ill be joining the sept 2ww group, surely this has to be AF? Would like to know what is up with my cycles..... silly body
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Netti I think the le diet can alter your cycle. I went from having 28-30 day cycles to 23,24,25 and 26 day cycles. Last cycle back up to 27 cycle b4 that was 23. Just gotta roll with it I say lol! I refuse to waste any more energy/stress wondering why and am just taking it as it comes :)
twointow83
August 25th, 2015, 10:32 PM
Looks like ill be joining the sept 2ww group, surely this has to be AF? Would like to know what is up with my cycles..... silly body
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Hugs! I'm sorry [emoji17] GL. Hopefully this next cycle is the one you've been waiting for.
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 10:33 PM
So its no longer spotting I meant to add before?
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 10:51 PM
Im only wearing a liner and its had about the size of a 50c piece, but it seems a little brighter now. I have a new liner on and so far just a 10c size, TMI but theres more when i wipe than on the liner, could be AF making a grand slow entrance. Will have to see how the next day goes.
Was there someone here with some bleeding earlier in the thread that had a positive hpt? If it doesn't get heavier the rest of the day im tempted to get some hpts just to see. Either that or i wish it would hurry up so i can move onto next cycle
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Pbn3
August 25th, 2015, 11:14 PM
I'd just get a test netti and do it in morning if it doesn't start full flow. fx
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 11:16 PM
Thats what im thinking pbn. Im still feeling nauseous and quite warm. Normally i get cold once af arrives..... whose idea was it to ttc again LOL 😂😂😂
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
netti02
August 25th, 2015, 11:54 PM
Ok spotting slowed right down nothing more on liner or tp. Fingers X this is a bean sticking!!
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Pbn3
August 26th, 2015, 12:01 AM
Ok spotting slowed right down nothing more on liner or tp. Fingers X this is a bean sticking!!
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
woohoo!! Now go and get a test for morning lol!! I have to know :):) fx fx fx!!
netti02
August 26th, 2015, 12:12 AM
Plan on it this afternoon 😀
If this turns into a bfp my psychic-medium did say this would be a harder pregnancy but it would be my little girl praying praying praying
Just a little tender uterus wise and nausea on and off but other than that not much
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twointow83
August 26th, 2015, 04:41 AM
Fx netti!
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netti02
August 26th, 2015, 04:59 AM
Ugghh more spotting but bright red now. Hopefully af just hits full force in the morning.
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
twointow83
August 26th, 2015, 05:03 AM
Ugghh more spotting but bright red now. Hopefully af just hits full force in the morning.
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
:(
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twointow83
August 26th, 2015, 08:55 AM
Ugghh more spotting but bright red now. Hopefully af just hits full force in the morning.
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
:hug2:
twointow83
August 26th, 2015, 09:05 AM
Well, my cervix is softening and opening in prep for AF so it should be long now. I am 14 DPO today... so weird to say that btw. Usually if I make it to 14 DPO I'm preggers! Anyway, as I was saying- I'm 14 DPO and given my cervix is starting to shift I am expecting AF either this evening or sometime tomorrow. Not looking forward to it but unfortunately it's the only way I can start my next cycle. Boooooooo :thumbsdown:
Hoping next cycle will be like this one, with an early O but kinda hoping for 2 follies. I'm not trying for twins (very open to twins though) but 2 follicles equals twice the chance that we catch at least one and one sticks. We shall see though. Have to call once AF shows to schedule another follicle study. Haven't gotten a bill yet so I have no idea if ins is paying anything toward them but they are worth the money to eliminate some of the guess work and frustration.
:fx: that those of you that are still here get your BFPs!!
Boysboys
August 26th, 2015, 10:41 AM
26905
Not looking too promising :(
Hitmebabyonemoretime
August 26th, 2015, 10:51 AM
Mamas - just popping in to let you know im thinking of you all and praying for you, and will be stalking you in the sept tww thread.
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mommymachine
August 26th, 2015, 12:19 PM
B.F.N. I will not wait for AF to arrive. Bah.
Boysboys
August 26th, 2015, 12:35 PM
Sorry mommy machine! :( what month ttc are you on?
mommymachine
August 26th, 2015, 01:50 PM
Sorry mommy machine! :( what month ttc are you on?
This is my 2nd cycle TTC. My first ended in a mc at 8 weeks.
mommymachine
August 26th, 2015, 02:03 PM
I also got HCG tested yesterday because I was getting other blood work done, and HCG was 0. My iron is also low. At least that is an easy fix.
Hitmebabyonemoretime
August 26th, 2015, 02:24 PM
Yep, I took some iron in my early swaying days... Was def fast acting!
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Laurenk1424
August 26th, 2015, 03:43 PM
It can happen from time to time but is more common when not using a basal therm. Are you using a BBT therm or regular therm?
BBT therm Two! I haven't checked this board in days... Moved on over to Sept tww.
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Pbn3
August 26th, 2015, 04:26 PM
26905
Not looking too promising :(
boysboys your temps are still up there! Is it 7dpo you're on? Sorry forgot to verify before starting this reply. What is that charting site your using if you don't mind my asking? Have you ever considered fertility friend?
Pbn3
August 26th, 2015, 04:27 PM
B.F.N. I will not wait for AF to arrive. Bah.
Hugs mommymachine :( come on over to the Sept 2ww when you're ready
Pbn3
August 26th, 2015, 04:30 PM
Ugghh more spotting but bright red now. Hopefully af just hits full force in the morning.
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
oh no Netti :( I'm sorry
Pbn3
August 26th, 2015, 04:33 PM
Geez whats happened to this month!! It started so promising then this huge dry spell of bfns!! Boysboys and whoever else is left I hope you's turn it around and bring it home with a bunch of bfps!! Can anyone that is still waiting to test update on where your at please :)?
Boysboys
August 26th, 2015, 04:36 PM
boysboys your temps are still up there! Is it 7dpo you're on? Sorry forgot to verify before starting this reply. What is that charting site your using if you don't mind my asking? Have you ever considered fertility friend?
It is an app I've used for years. Just started their temping part this month. It's called woman log. I def may use ff if the month is bfn.
I guess I just want to see them continue to rise. Lol
Mary Poppins
August 26th, 2015, 04:56 PM
Hi everyone, I've posted this elsewhere too but you guys are so active on this thread I thought I might seek your advice here too!
So, we are BDing every 4 days, so last BD was Sunday night so next BD would be Thursday night. Well, I've just got a +Opk tonight at 9pm, so wd you BD again tonight or stick with doing it every 4 days??FYI, this is our first month of doing every 4 days, previous 6 months have been 1 attempt at +Opk.
Arghh just not sure what to do!
Thanks so much in advance ladies. Hopefully joining you in the 2WW very soon!
MPx
momamia4
August 26th, 2015, 04:59 PM
Mary Poppins, I'd dtd tonight and then resume the every 4 days. Good luck! :)
Boysboys
August 26th, 2015, 05:09 PM
Hi everyone, I've posted this elsewhere too but you guys are so active on this thread I thought I might seek your advice here too!
So, we are BDing every 4 days, so last BD was Sunday night so next BD would be Thursday night. Well, I've just got a +Opk tonight at 9pm, so wd you BD again tonight or stick with doing it every 4 days??FYI, this is our first month of doing every 4 days, previous 6 months have been 1 attempt at +Opk.
Arghh just not sure what to do!
Thanks so much in advance ladies. Hopefully joining you in the 2WW very soon!
MPx
I would definitely bd tonight. I would be afraid you'd miss is by Thursday. But this is from an attempt addict. Lol
netti02
August 26th, 2015, 05:10 PM
Im heading over to the September group wishing anyone else left to test the best of luck
Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
Mary Poppins
August 26th, 2015, 06:36 PM
Thanks ladies! I appreciate your opinions
Xxx
twointow83
August 27th, 2015, 07:59 AM
Can I just say how unbelievably weird my chart looks to me??!! Not only did I O early, but my LP is longer thanks to clomid. It looks SOOOOO weird to me!!!!
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twointow83
August 27th, 2015, 08:40 AM
And I see what some of you were saying about having a bit of an LH surge just before AF... 26930
Pbn3
August 28th, 2015, 12:05 AM
Boysboys I just went to ask if you've tested yet as thought you'd be 9 or 10dpo but did a quick look back and it was only yesterday you posted pic of chart lol! Feels like its been days :) When are you going to start testing btw?
Boysboys
August 28th, 2015, 07:07 AM
Boysboys I just went to ask if you've tested yet as thought you'd be 9 or 10dpo but did a quick look back and it was only yesterday you posted pic of chart lol! Feels like its been days :) When are you going to start testing btw?
I am going to test Sunday! 12 dpo. It cannot get her fast enough!!! I'm 10 dpo today. Here is my chart this morning: 26951
Pbn3
August 28th, 2015, 07:30 AM
omg I cant believe you haven't tested lol!!!!!! You are still well above pre o temps so I wish you the very best testing!! Are you sure you dont want to test tomorrow lol!! So excited for your update!
momamia4
August 28th, 2015, 07:58 AM
Good luck!!! :)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
Boysboys
August 28th, 2015, 10:14 AM
omg I cant believe you haven't tested lol!!!!!! You are still well above pre o temps so I wish you the very best testing!! Are you sure you dont want to test tomorrow lol!! So excited for your update!
Hahaha!! Girl I don't even know what's good about this charting stuff. I was excited to see it rising the past two days but that's all I know is a good thing. I googled charts with bfp and stuff but everyone's is so different! I don't know, I'm so scared to see a negative!!!!!! Yall think I should test tomorrow?
momamia4
August 28th, 2015, 10:15 AM
You're 12dpo tomorrow, right? If so, then I would test.
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
Boysboys
August 28th, 2015, 10:33 AM
You're 12dpo tomorrow, right? If so, then I would test.
Praying for a sticky bean!
I will be 11 dpo tomorrow.
momamia4
August 28th, 2015, 10:34 AM
I'd wait another day then.
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
twointow83
August 28th, 2015, 10:35 AM
I will be 11 dpo tomorrow. 😁😁
I'd test! :fingers:
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mommymachine
August 28th, 2015, 10:57 AM
I'd test! :fingers:
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Oh goodness! Wishing you pink baby dust boysboys!
Boysboys
August 28th, 2015, 11:27 AM
Oh gosh! I think I will wait until Sunday. With DS1 it was super faint at 12 dpo. With DS2 I waited until 14dpo and it was fairly bold. Ahhhhh!!!!
I feel like my cervix is slightly lower so that kinda made me sad. Lol!
Atsaukina1
August 28th, 2015, 11:34 AM
Omg I must be a testaholic becuz I could not wait till 12-14 dpo. 11 with charging too I'd be on it. But if you know when you usually get a positive then that is the wisest thing to do if you have the self control lol. My last 2 that I actually knew ovulation or at least when I got a positive opk got bfp at 10dpo and squinter at nine. I'm 6dpo and going insane. I don't have any tests and waiting to buy one so I don't waste a bunch of $$$. Grant me the strength lol
Boysboys
August 28th, 2015, 11:57 AM
Omg I must be a testaholic becuz I could not wait till 12-14 dpo. 11 with charging too I'd be on it. But if you know when you usually get a positive then that is the wisest thing to do if you have the self control lol. My last 2 that I actually knew ovulation or at least when I got a positive opk got bfp at 10dpo and squinter at nine. I'm 6dpo and going insane. I don't have any tests and waiting to buy one so I don't waste a bunch of $$$. Grant me the strength lol
I know!!! See I can't just do one attempt at ovulation (hence my boys!lol) but I guess I like the feeling of having HOPE and pretending I'm pregnant!haha
Atsaukina1
August 28th, 2015, 04:23 PM
I am doing one attempt didn't work last month but am hoping hoping it did this time- fx
Pbn3
August 28th, 2015, 04:42 PM
Wishing you both bfps!! Will be stalking this thread for results!
Boysboys
August 29th, 2015, 07:37 AM
Negative for me. I went ahead and tested this morning after a very slight temp drop and AF Cramps in the middle of the night. I will probably take a week break while I scrape my heart off the floor. We had two good attempts right at positive OPK so not sure what's going on. With both boys we got pregnant quickly. This is just month two but I still get worried.
Anyway, I'll be back. I pray you girls get your BFP this month. Best of luck ladies! See yall in the September 2ww in a few days.
Pbn3
August 29th, 2015, 08:14 AM
So sorry boysboys :( when you're ready we'll see you in the sep 2ww.
twointow83
August 29th, 2015, 09:14 AM
So sorry boysboys :( when you're ready we'll see you in the sep 2ww.
Ditto this. :hug2:
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momamia4
August 29th, 2015, 09:26 AM
I'm so sorry Boysboys!!! I know exactly how you feel. :bighug:
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
mommymachine
August 29th, 2015, 10:09 AM
I'm sorry boys boys :(
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netti02
August 29th, 2015, 12:08 PM
Xxx Boysboys
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daisy4
August 29th, 2015, 02:21 PM
Sorry boys boys
Momamia were you doing bloodwork again today ? If so hope it turned out well
I had bloodwork done yesterday. .hoping I get good numbers..might get the results on Monday
Atsaukina1
August 29th, 2015, 03:01 PM
7dpo well i dont chart so going off +opk then counting next day as O and next day as 1dpo so I could be as much as 8-9dpo or as little as 5-6dpo. Who knows.Just got a 3pk of tests. It's all will power now lol. Even got $3 off coupon.
Pbn3
August 29th, 2015, 05:12 PM
Fx Atsaukina! Come on over to the Sept 2ww! Hopefully you'll be our first bfp!!
momamia4
August 29th, 2015, 05:21 PM
Sorry boys boys
Momamia were you doing bloodwork again today ? If so hope it turned out well
I had bloodwork done yesterday. .hoping I get good numbers..might get the results on Monday
I ended up in the ER last night. My hcg still isn't rising properly (it slowed down a lot to 112 hour doubling time) but they did find the gestational sac in the uterus. Unfortunately, it is abnormal. So, I'm going in for a d&c on Tuesday. :(
FX your blood work is perfect!:)
Praying for a sticky 🎀 bean!
daisy4
August 29th, 2015, 07:47 PM
Im so sorry momamia ...hugs [emoji20]
Boysboys
August 29th, 2015, 10:46 PM
I ended up in the ER last night. My hcg still isn't rising properly (it slowed down a lot to 112 hour doubling time) but they did find the gestational sac in the uterus. Unfortunately, it is abnormal. So, I'm going in for a d&c on Tuesday. :(
FX your blood work is perfect!:)
Praying for a sticky bean!
I am so so sorry momamia! Praying for you.
Thank you girls for making me feel loved! I'm already feeling better and ready to move to month three. I will see you girls in sept 2ww.
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