Due Sept/Oct/Nov 2016

[Laurenk1424]

You guys.

It says my report is ready. If I download thathe will it tell me the sex in the report?? My Dr said they would call me..... Would I even know how to read the report?

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I have no answers but I just got excited slash nervous slash pumped up for you!!!!!!

[twointow83]

You guys.

It says my report is ready. If I download thathe will it tell me the sex in the report?? My Dr said they would call me..... Would I even know how to read the report?

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I have no idea... maybe call them?

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼 We're having a girl! 🎀👗
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[Kmomofthree]

Sorry for the typos. I just know it's a boy but still my heart immediately nearly pounded out of my chest. I'm so scared to no longer have the hope of having a daughter :-/

It said on the previous Web page "genetic risk low" which I think I can take as good news and I so relieved about that.

I'm currently dropping kids off at school. I think we'll take a look at the report when we get home. If I can't understand it then I will call my dr.

[Laurenk1424]

Sorry for the typos. I just know it's a boy but still my heart immediately nearly pounded out of my chest. I'm so scared to no longer have the hope of having a daughter :-/

It said on the previous Web page "genetic risk low" which I think I can take as good news and I so relieved about that.

I'm currently dropping kids off at school. I think we'll take a look at the report when we get home. If I can't understand it then I will call my dr.

I know exactly how you feel. It's when all your hope of a girl could be gone. I get it. I'm sorry it's such a stressful thing for us when swaying. Sending good vibes and juju your way mama. Keep us updated.

[Mulberry Smurf]

Good luck!!! Xx

[BunnyGirl19]

Sooo my DS has insisted since day 1 that this baby is a girl. (I really really don't think it is) and everyday he plays cars or toys he says "this car is the baby sister" etc...he kisses my belly and says "love you baby sister."
I'm going to feel so horrible if he's sad it's a boy.


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I lucked out this time. DD wants a sissy, DS1 wants another little brother, DS2 says he wants a boy (although he keeps saying no more babies), DS3 is too little to care. I have something for everyone. LOL

[lala22]

Ksmom keep us posted!!!!

[BunnyGirl19]

Sorry for the typos. I just know it's a boy but still my heart immediately nearly pounded out of my chest. I'm so scared to no longer have the hope of having a daughter :-/

It said on the previous Web page "genetic risk low" which I think I can take as good news and I so relieved about that.

I'm currently dropping kids off at school. I think we'll take a look at the report when we get home. If I can't understand it then I will call my dr.

It'll will usually list the trisomies and say either "detected" or "not detected" and for gender it will say "XY detected" or "no XY detected." Assuming all brands report the same.

[Kmomofthree]

Thanks bunny. I'm home now. Procrastinating. Trying to grow some balls. I've been dying to know and now I'm like..... trying to build some nerve to find out.

[twointow83]

FX kmomof3!! I'm dying to know so please share when you get a chance!!

[twointow83]

Well... my hubby has "lost it" lol. NOTHING has "popped". If anything, this weeks pic I look less preg than I did in the last pic we took. Compared to around this time with my DSs I don't look preg at all. I just look extra chubby.... like I thought. See for yourself....

Today's pic @ 15 weeks 2 days:
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16 weeks with DS2:
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[Kmomofthree]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.

[Laurenk1424]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.

I'm sorry. I know your heart aches for a girl and I hope that the ache can fade with time. I don't remember your sway (I just remember you got preggo pretty quick) but DONT blame yourself or swaying. You did everything you could!! Big big hugs mama.

[twointow83]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.
I'm sorry sweetie (((hugs))) Like you said, you did everything you could. It just wasn't meant to be. Cry, be sad... feel what you need to feel to process it all. When you are ready the happiness will come. So many hugs.

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[Mulberry Smurf]

glad he is healthy but sorry you didn't get your girl. The other ladies have given you some really good advice. I know this new little one will complete you and your family but it will take time to adjust to your new family xx

[Gagirl0221]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.

I'm so sorry you are having to go through this heart break. It's almost as you lost someone. I have 3 girls and I am dying to have a boy. I told my self I would not get upset like I did with my third bc she had to be in the nicu for a few days and I was terrified and felt so guilty. I know if I have my 4th girl I will still be upset a lil but I try to look at it as there is a reason I can't have a boy. I will find out in 2 weeks. I'm praying that your hurt will pass soon but most of us understand how you are feeling and I know it's hard. Prayers for you.

[BunnyGirl19]

I'm sorry kmom. :(

[lala22]

Well... my hubby has "lost it" lol. NOTHING has "popped". If anything, this weeks pic I look less preg than I did in the last pic we took. Compared to around this time with my DSs I don't look preg at all. I just look extra chubby.... like I thought. See for yourself....

Today's pic @ 15 weeks 2 days:
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16 weeks with DS2:
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You're carrying all around this time and last time you look up and high- that goes against the OWT! Haha

[lala22]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.

Sorry ksmom. Don't feel stupid for anything. I agree with everything everyone else said. I can't pretend to understand fully but I can tell you I would be devastated so allow yourself some time to grieve and repair:-)

[twointow83]

You're carrying all around this time and last time you look up and high- that goes against the OWT! Haha

What can I say? I'm a rebel lol.

Then again, I've always heard "riding high, it's a guy". In other words if you carry high it's a boy...

[XXforhubby]

What can I say? I'm a rebel lol.

Then again, I've always heard "riding high, it's a guy". In other words if you carry high it's a boy...

I've always carried low with all my boys...[emoji170]

[BunnyGirl19]

I've always heard the OWT as girls high, boys low.

[lala22]

I think I carried about the same with both. I suppose I got a couple " Wow he's so low " comments with my boy but truth be told both kiddos sat so low they were practically falling out. I was just WAY bigger the second time around- SO much belly with a 10lb 23 in baby. Lol

[dpike00]

Kmomofthree- im sooo sorry!!!!


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[Bella29]

Kmom, I'm so sorry love. I feel you. I really wanted a boy this time around and my nub shot is the poster child for a girl. I've been trying really hard to come to terms with it and like you I won't be sad, but there is a sense of grief. Big hugs. It's ok to feel how you feel.


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[twointow83]

Well finished making my Grandma's tshirt for the surprise in a few weeks. The plan WAS to just show up with a big belly but it doesn't appear that is going to happen so we came up with an alternative plan. We told her the boys found a "Memaw" shirt they wanted to get her to get her shirt size then I created a design using her fav character and colors and used an iron on tshirt transfer. This is the finished product...
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160421/e3dc686fb3e3aefe5b3e292ad0f0fac0.jpg

Now I can't wait to give it to her! Still have about 3 weeks to go though :/

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[Quinn31]

It's a boy.

I just took a shower and cried. I'm not going to let myself be all sad. I'm am so happy he is healthy. Of course I wouldn't change him. You ladies understand, I'm sad that I'll never have a daughter.

I feel stupid for all the stuff I did trying to sway. If I look at my sway, I literally did everything I could. Oh well.

Kmom, I'm so sorry. If only you and I could switch the sex of our babies. Although I know the babies we have will bring us so much joy. I'm finally starting to feel better a week after finding out it's another girl. Again, I'm so sorry and completely understand. I think I'm finally done cursing God and everyone else I know that has a son.

[Quinn31]

Oh and my sway was pretty much textbook as well. I'm not a very good advertisement for gender dreaming. Plus I'm 13 pounds heavier!! [emoji30]


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[Bella29]

That's another thing that sucks huh Quinn. I started this pregnancy quite a bit heavier too, because of swaying.


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[Kmomofthree]

Kmom, I'm so sorry. If only you and I could switch the sex of our babies. Although I know the babies we have will bring us so much joy. I'm finally starting to feel better a week after finding out it's another girl. Again, I'm so sorry and completely understand. I think I'm finally done cursing God and everyone else I know that has a son.

Thank you Quinn (and everyone). I am feeling better.... been trying to focus 110% on my business. The day I found out I bought A TON OF boy fabrics. My shop has a lot of little girl stuff (because honestly girly fabrics are more fun to buy) so I decided I'm going to bulk up my baby boy section. Because apparently there are mom's who will only ever have boys too and we deserve fun baby clothes shopping too ;-)
It just feels the worst when I'm dropping my oldest off at school and I see all the little girls running up to the school with their mom or dad. So many people get to have both. Why.

As far as cursing God that made me chuckle. I've been a rebel and haven't done my daily devotional the last couple days. I probably get back on it here soon... sometimes it's just hard to connect when things happen that we don't understand.

[netti02]

Kmom i wish i could get more cute hand made boy stuff yet its rare to find.

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[twointow83]

Cute boy stuff in general is hard to find esp beyond the newborn stage! I'd love to see some of the stuff you make!

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[twointow83]

My anxiety is increasing again :( I'll be 16 weeks in 2 days and somewhere between 16-17 weeks is when our first loss passed (although we didn't find out until almost 21 weeks) so I am in a state of near panic at this point. Plus, having lost our previous girl doesn't help. I keep compulsively checking on her multiple times a day making sure she is okay still. I keep feeling like things r going too good right now and waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop and snatch it all away :( I wish I could just fast forward until she is safely in my arms so I could quit worrying.

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[lala22]

My anxiety is increasing again :( I'll be 16 weeks in 2 days and somewhere between 16-17 weeks is when our first loss passed (although we didn't find out until almost 21 weeks) so I am in a state of near panic at this point. Plus, having lost our previous girl doesn't help. I keep compulsively checking on her multiple times a day making sure she is okay still. I keep feeling like things r going too good right now and waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop and snatch it all away :( I wish I could just fast forward until she is safely in my arms so I could quit worrying.

�� for a healthy �� �� We're having a girl! ����
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I would be a mess too...would your doctor do an ultrasound for you sometime soon just to verify things are well?

[twointow83]

I have an appt at 18 weeks scheduled. Just gotta make it till then.

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[Bella29]

My anxiety is increasing again :( I'll be 16 weeks in 2 days and somewhere between 16-17 weeks is when our first loss passed (although we didn't find out until almost 21 weeks) so I am in a state of near panic at this point. Plus, having lost our previous girl doesn't help. I keep compulsively checking on her multiple times a day making sure she is okay still. I keep feeling like things r going too good right now and waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop and snatch it all away :( I wish I could just fast forward until she is safely in my arms so I could quit worrying.

[emoji120] for a healthy [emoji304] [emoji703] We're having a girl! [emoji166][emoji156]
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Hugs two. It's horrible going past your loss week. Mine is only 6 weeks and yet I feel it every pregnancy. It makes me very anxious. I can only imagine how much worse it is when you lose a baby at such an advanced gestation. I hope you are able to find some things to reassure you and pray your baby girl is extra wiggly for you this week.


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[Kmomofthree]

Cute boy stuff in general is hard to find esp beyond the newborn stage! I'd love to see some of the stuff you make!

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I mainly sell on Etsy but I've been working on my standalone site www.littleberryclothing.com

I'm sorry about your anxiety, I can't say I blame you. I'm glad you'll be getting an u/s soon! I'm sure that'll help put your mind at ease.

[lala22]

I mainly sell on Etsy but I've been working on my standalone site www.littleberryclothing.com

I'm sorry about your anxiety, I can't say I blame you. I'm glad you'll be getting an u/s soon! I'm sure that'll help put your mind at ease.

Wow what adorable stuff and right up my alley! I may have to indulge before little own gets here:)

[TaytumJ]

I mainly sell on Etsy but I've been working on my standalone site www.littleberryclothing.com

I'm sorry about your anxiety, I can't say I blame you. I'm glad you'll be getting an u/s soon! I'm sure that'll help put your mind at ease.

Those wiener dog leggings!!!! [emoji7][emoji7] I just sent them to hubby - will have to buy!

[twointow83]

I mainly sell on Etsy but I've been working on my standalone site www.littleberryclothing.com

I'm sorry about your anxiety, I can't say I blame you. I'm glad you'll be getting an u/s soon! I'm sure that'll help put your mind at ease.

Aww! Cute stuff!! As thrilled as I am to be having a girl I think it means I will be broke for the next 18 years lol. I WANT EVERYTHING I see lol. EVERYTHING!

[Kmomofthree]

:bigsmile:Thanks ladies

[Bella29]

Well ms has finally really eased for me. Feeling so much better! 15 weeks tomorrow and I start back to work on Tuesday to make sure I keep my registration as a nurse before I am off on Mat leave for another few years.


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[Laurenk1424]

Ummm first thing when I woke up I felt my stomach harder and looked in the mirror. Where did this come from? Excuse the no pants hahaha http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/4b84a845289997b42067170d4c1bfd87.jpg


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[BunnyGirl19]

I have no idea what got into DH last night, but we had sex 7 times. I can hardly walk today. LOL

[twointow83]

Ummm first thing when I woke up I felt my stomach harder and looked in the mirror. Where did this come from? Excuse the no pants hahaha http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/4b84a845289997b42067170d4c1bfd87.jpg


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Congrats! You "popped" :)

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[twointow83]

I have no idea what got into DH last night, but we had sex 7 times. I can hardly walk today. LOL
Holy crap! Wowza! I wouldn't be able to walk either (esp given the fact we've been on pelvic rest for 3 months lol)!!!

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[twointow83]

Well ms has finally really eased for me. Feeling so much better! 15 weeks tomorrow and I start back to work on Tuesday to make sure I keep my registration as a nurse before I am off on Mat leave for another few years.


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Yay! Glad you are feeling better!

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[lala22]

I have no idea what got into DH last night, but we had sex 7 times. I can hardly walk today. LOL

What in the hell?! 7?! I can barely walk after one time. Lol. Way to stay strong.

[lala22]

Ummm first thing when I woke up I felt my stomach harder and looked in the mirror. Where did this come from? Excuse the no pants hahaha http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/4b84a845289997b42067170d4c1bfd87.jpg


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Awe..yay for baby bellies..how far along are you?

[Laurenk1424]

Awe..yay for baby bellies..how far along are you?

12 weeks [emoji16][emoji16] I guess second babies show sooner? I've been feeling bigger all around instead of a belly for a while now and I've lost 8 pounds but I guess it's starting to get there

[lala22]

Yeah, I'm on my 3rd and have been showing since 7 weeks..not kidding. Lol. I can still hide it though..I wish I was down 8 lbs!! I'm tacking on the pounds and now I'm not sure why..working out very regularly and eating well for the last week or so. I'm not a fan of gaining weight if I'm being honest.

[Laurenk1424]

Yeah, I'm on my 3rd and have been showing since 7 weeks..not kidding. Lol. I can still hide it though..I wish I was down 8 lbs!! I'm tacking on the pounds and now I'm not sure why..working out very regularly and eating well for the last week or so. I'm not a fan of gaining weight if I'm being honest.

You can't tell when I'm dressed at all. I look chunky instead. Even though I'm down weight I feel heavy and gross. I think it's only due to my appetite having been lacking for a while now.

[BunnyGirl19]

I'm as big or bigger now than when I had any of my other kids. I know I'll be bigger with twins, but it's still a bit disturbing considering I'm only 21 weeks right now.

[LoveRR]

For anyone who was wondering about what happened to me, I'm sad to announce I won't be part of this group anymore, dr did a second ultrasound and there is no growth. Had a blighted ovum ... full sac but no baby. I am spotting right now, if I don't naturally miscarry I have a d&c scheduled for wed.

Need advice of what to expect for the natural miscarry and what to expect for the d&c. Never experienced it, very nervous about it.

[twointow83]

For anyone who was wondering about what happened to me, I'm sad to announce I won't be part of this group anymore, dr did a second ultrasound and there is no growth. Had a blighted ovum ... full sac but no baby. I am spotting right now, if I don't naturally miscarry I have a d&c scheduled for wed.

Need advice of what to expect for the natural miscarry and what to expect for the d&c. Never experienced it, very nervous about it.

I'm so sorry sweetie. (((HUGS))) Take care of yourself and allow yourself to grieve. Fighting it will only make things worse for you.

As for your question... everyone's experience is different but here is mine.

D&C- My first D&C was very hard on my body... and my heart, of course. I went to the hospital, to same day surgery. I was hooked up to an IV and prepped for the procedure. Then I was wheeled into the recovery area and, when the OB was ready for me I was sedated. The next thing I knew I was in recovery post-op. Still in an anesthesia haze, at first I forgot why I was there until a nurse said that everything went great and something about getting everything out and it hit me like a bag of bricks and I started bawling and asked if I could see my baby. I was told there was not really anything to see, just bits of tissue. I cried even harder. Once I was fully awake I was taken back to same day surgery and then released. Afterward, I felt really raw inside as if I could actually feel where he had scraped my insides out. It took me about 3 months to heal completely and the 3 AFs following were absolutely horrible... I felt like I had been re-D&C'd every month, though the initial pain from the D&C got better after about a week or two. Do yourself a favor and if your doc doesn't volunteer a prescription pain killer, ask for one. You may not need it but if you are like me you'll definitely need something because tylenol didn't cut it.

My natural loss wasn't completely natural. I'd had a D&C about 3 weeks prior (that one was much easier on my body) but the OB had missed our bean. It was believe baby was ectopic, and nothing but an "abnormal sac of fluid" was seen inutero on ultrasound so I am guessing he just did a quick once over and ended up missing bean. After, we learned that baby was inutero and had a faint HB but a shot I was given in the hospital to terminate pregnancy (since they couldn't find the baby during surgery) ended the pregnancy after about a week and a half. Another week and a half'ish later I was at school (college) and I'd been cramping all day, but I have IBS and just figured my tummy was messed up. It kept getting worse so I took a pain killer and kept going to class. My last class of the day I was soooo uncomfortable. It hurt to sit or stand. Then the professor asked me to pass something out and (this is gross... sorry) I stood up and felt this jelly like substance tumbled out of me so I finished passing everything out as quickly as possible and made a b-line for the restroom thinking that I had just passed the baby. Turned out to just be the biggest clot I'd ever seen in my life (baseball sized or close to it) so I cleaned up and went back to class. At that point all heck broke loose and the pain intensified. Fortunately, at that point class was nearly over so I bit my lip and made it until the end and then walked as quickly as the pain would let me to get to my car. I had a 30 minute drive to get home and I knew I had to get home before it got any worse because I could barely focus as it was. I thought about calling my best friend (she helps my stay focused on the road when pain from my tummy issues made it difficult to focus as she has them too and knows what it's like) but the pain had me to a point that it was all I could do to put the car in cruise control and focus on staying in my lane. I finally got home and had to feed the kids so I made the quickest, most rudimentary dinner possible all the while curled up in agony. My mother in law had lost a baby and was there as she was my sitter so I turned to her in near tears to ask her if this is what it felt like when she lost her baby and she said "No!" so I was so confused and didn't know why I was hurting so bad which made the pain even more unbearable. I just kept assuming it was my tummy issues so I refused to go to the ER because A: if it was my tummy issues there was nothing but pain killers they could do for me and I had pills at home B: If I was losing the baby, I knew they would toss him/her in a biohazard bag and throw the bag away, and that wasn't happening and C: I was not very happy with the ER anyway as it was them that said baby was ectopic which I now knew was not the case. Finally, DH got home from work, admittedly only about 10 mins after I did but it felt soooooo much longer, so he finished up dinner so I could finally go take the strongest pain killer I had (it usually knocks me out) but it did nothing. All night I struggled to get relief with pain killer combos, heating pad... I even got in a hot, hot tub. The tub helped between what I now know were contractions but at the time I just thought of them as waves of pain. Due to my pain killer cocktail I would fall asleep between them... in the tub. Finally, scared that I'd fall asleep and drown, I got out and laid back down and added benadryl to my cocktail because it knocks me out too and I was finally able to get some sleep, not great sleep but better than nothing. At 6 am I woke up and got up to get my kids off to school. The moment I stood up I felt the jelly sensation again with a gush of blood this time so I carefully made my way to the bathroom. It was immediately obvious that it was my bean as I could see the sac and placenta. The pain was completely gone at this point and I was both thankful it was over and falling apart because I was holding my baby. I cleaned up and went to get a zip lock bag to keep him/her safe, then started getting my kids up as life must go on :( I don't think my experience is typical though, and yours may be easier. Only time will tell.

Again, I am sooooo sorry for your loss. Some ppl are able to "catch" bean like I did, some aren't. But you may want to consider how you wish to proceed if you do catch your bean. Do you want to give a peaceful burial in a house plant for example. There is no right or wrong thing to do. Just listen to your heart, it knows what you need for closure. (((HUGS)))

[purple]

For anyone who was wondering about what happened to me, I'm sad to announce I won't be part of this group anymore, dr did a second ultrasound and there is no growth. Had a blighted ovum ... full sac but no baby. I am spotting right now, if I don't naturally miscarry I have a d&c scheduled for wed.

Need advice of what to expect for the natural miscarry and what to expect for the d&c. Never experienced it, very nervous about it.

I'm so sorry for you loss :(

My first mc was a blighted ovum and I opted for the d&c as I just wanted it over with. Physically it was all really easy and I recovered very quickly. I bleed less than a normal period and just spotted for a while. Emotionally it was my hardest as it was the first loss.

My 2nd one the baby wasn't growing and I decided to let it happen naturally as I had some concerns about rushing into the d&c the last time. It started with some light bleeding about two days before and then I started getting some cramps and about 2 hours later the bleeding started. There was lots of clots and blood and I was basically sitting on the toilet the whole time. I was losing more blood than normal. I passed out and ended up going to the hospital (via ambulance) so if you feel light headed or start feeling cold then you may be loosing too much. I think I was basically filling up a pad in less then 30 mins. I ended up with two blood transfusions and then had a d&c, it was quite traumatic so don't be silly like me and not pay attention to blood loss.

3rd time I did medical management at the hospital and was closely monitored for blood loss. I had a much more "normal" amount of blood loss and was able to spend more time off the toilet then on it. It was a lot slower than the previous and was 12 hours start to finish and I expect this is more like what natural miscarriages are normally like.

I hope everything goes ok and I didn't scare you with my story, I don't think it is common but it is good to be aware of what can happen. I'm so sorry you even have to go through this. Please take care and give yourself as much time as you need to grieve.

[twointow83]

I'm so sorry for you loss :(

My first mc was a blighted ovum and I opted for the d&c as I just wanted it over with. Physically it was all really easy and I recovered very quickly. I bleed less than a normal period and just spotted for a while. Emotionally it was my hardest as it was the first loss.

My 2nd one the baby wasn't growing and I decided to let it happen naturally as I had some concerns about rushing into the d&c the last time. It started with some light bleeding about two days before and then I started getting some cramps and about 2 hours later the bleeding started. There was lots of clots and blood and I was basically sitting on the toilet the whole time. I was losing more blood than normal. I passed out and ended up going to the hospital (via ambulance) so if you feel light headed or start feeling cold then you may be loosing too much. I think I was basically filling up a pad in less then 30 mins. I ended up with two blood transfusions and then had a d&c, it was quite traumatic so don't be silly like me and not pay attention to blood loss.

3rd time I did medical management at the hospital and was closely monitored for blood loss. I had a much more "normal" amount of blood loss and was able to spend more time off the toilet then on it. It was a lot slower than the previous and was 12 hours start to finish and I expect this is more like what natural miscarriages are normally like.

I hope everything goes ok and I didn't scare you with my story, I don't think it is common but it is good to be aware of what can happen. I'm so sorry you even have to go through this. Please take care and give yourself as much time as you need to grieve.

I wonder why some women bleed and some don't... I bled for a few days, then the evening before the pains set in the bleeding practically stopped until it was all over. Pain is variable based on sooo many factors (pain tolerance, scar tissue from previous procedures, how hard your body has to work, how far along you are, etc.), but one would think blood loss would be at least similar unless there was an issue like with your second loss. Even with my first loss... I was induced and it's not uncommon for women in labor to bleed a bit but I didn't even spot until after he was born. Curious...

[twointow83]

This was just on an ad on facebook... I've seen it all now lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLL5sl8Y3u8

[Kmomofthree]

Holy crap Bunny

[Kmomofthree]

LoveRR I am so sorry to hear that :-( hugs.

[Laurenk1424]

So so sorry loverr. I can't imagine the heart ache you're feeling. I hope that your body heals quickly and you heart as well.


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[twointow83]

I'm as big or bigger now than when I had any of my other kids. I know I'll be bigger with twins, but it's still a bit disturbing considering I'm only 21 weeks right now.

Unfortunately, I know the feeling lol. With my boys I got HUGE!!! By the half way mark I was as big as most full-term women. I learned to loathe the question "when are you due?" because it was always followed by "twins??", I'd answer "no" and then a statement that made me feel like a giant circus freak "You're NEVER gonna make it!!" :hair:

Would love to see a pic though :bigsmile:

[Inforthree]

Sorry for your loss loverr. Sending you healing thoughts!

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[lala22]

Nearly 16 weeks! I feel like each pregnancy goes slower than the last.

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[lala22]

Just saw your post loverr---what devastation..so sorry!

[BunnyGirl19]

So sorry loverr. :(

I'll post a 22 week update this week. I feel huge, but it's more that my belly feels much heavier than it should for size, like a similarly sized pile of bricks versus pillows.

We had DS1's birthday party on Sunday and FIL showed up uninvited, refused to leave. I ended up having to miss my own child's birthday because of it. I can't handle the stress of being near him and all the crap he starts. If I would have stayed I'm sure things would have escalated to the point of me ending up in jail. And I'm so angry that DH can't or won't put him in his place and kick him out. FIL has been nothing but trouble for our relationship. I can't sit back and tolerate his abuse and DH can't deal with the conflict so he runs off and stays out all night drinking to avoid everything, or goes to one of his stores to sleep and be alone. It's getting ridiculous. He tells me he's not happy with things, but his inability to stand up to his dad is seriously ruining our marriage and FIL just keeps getting worse over the years. If I thought I had any hope of being able to support myself and 6 young kids by myself, not to mention all the day to day stuff like childcare and appointments, I'd leave. There's only so much I can take, especially when I don't feel like I've got any support or help with the issue.

[dpike00]

So I had my scan today and we are having a girl. So excited!!! Both of my boys went to the scan and got to see her.


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[BunnyGirl19]

Yay!

[Blue Bear]

LoverRR.. I did acupuncture when I had a missed miscarriage at 9 weeks... Fetus was at 6 weeks. Took 3 appts once a week until bleeding stopped. Was never too bad physically but helped clear my body naturally. I had an earlier miscarriage at 5 1/2 weeks and was just like a slightly heavy period.

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[lala22]

So sorry loverr. :(

I'll post a 22 week update this week. I feel huge, but it's more that my belly feels much heavier than it should for size, like a similarly sized pile of bricks versus pillows.

We had DS1's birthday party on Sunday and FIL showed up uninvited, refused to leave. I ended up having to miss my own child's birthday because of it. I can't handle the stress of being near him and all the crap he starts. If I would have stayed I'm sure things would have escalated to the point of me ending up in jail. And I'm so angry that DH can't or won't put him in his place and kick him out. FIL has been nothing but trouble for our relationship. I can't sit back and tolerate his abuse and DH can't deal with the conflict so he runs off and stays out all night drinking to avoid everything, or goes to one of his stores to sleep and be alone. It's getting ridiculous. He tells me he's not happy with things, but his inability to stand up to his dad is seriously ruining our marriage and FIL just keeps getting worse over the years. If I thought I had any hope of being able to support myself and 6 young kids by myself, not to mention all the day to day stuff like childcare and appointments, I'd leave. There's only so much I can take, especially when I don't feel like I've got any support or help with the issue.

Yikes! This all sounds terrible but if FIL stays away everything is alright? It sounds like things are bad even when he's not around. If it's just when he's around, maybe figure out ways to lessen it? It is so difficult to wrap my head around why your DH won't give him the boot. Sorry you're dealing with stress- lame!

[BunnyGirl19]

DH inherited a family business from him, has owned it solely for 6 years, and has made it far more successful than FIL ever did. Even so, FIL pops in regularly at one of the stores trying to butt in to know what's going on with it, telling DH all the ways he is doing it wrong, etc. If DH is out of town on business FIL goes in and rearranges the store and yells at all the employees, threatens to fire them, etc. It's nuts! He calls DH multiple times a day and then freaks out if he's ignored. It's really too much and I don't doubt it's why DH has high BP. He butts into our marriage in the same way. We try to limit him as much as possible, but he's like an infestation. He keeps coming back. The only time we have any peace is when he goes on a trip out of the country. Otherwise, he's a nightmare. He's a textbook narcissist and control freak and he hates that I stand up to him, which he then takes out on DH. We're looking into marriage counseling for everything, but I doubt it will happen any time soon. DH has been dragging his feet over it and being noncommittal to picking a therapist and actually scheduling.

[BunnyGirl19]

If not for FIL, DH and I have minimal issues in our marriage and it's usually minir things like him not calling to tell me he's running late for dinner because of store errands or giving really short notice of meetings, events, trips, etc., that require me to change my scheduling around. Basically things that are more irritating than an actual issue.

[lala22]

Ugh..move to another state?! Lol. What a lame issue to be dealing with! Try to stand united over it and make it bring you closer together rather than draw you further apart though..easier said than done.

[LoveRR]

Just saw your post loverr---what devastation..so sorry!

Thank u lala. Just sad

[LoveRR]

I'm so sorry sweetie. (((HUGS))) Take care of yourself and allow yourself to grieve. Fighting it will only make things worse for you.

As for your question... everyone's experience is different but here is mine.

D&C- My first D&C was very hard on my body... and my heart, of course. I went to the hospital, to same day surgery. I was hooked up to an IV and prepped for the procedure. Then I was wheeled into the recovery area and, when the OB was ready for me I was sedated. The next thing I knew I was in recovery post-op. Still in an anesthesia haze, at first I forgot why I was there until a nurse said that everything went great and something about getting everything out and it hit me like a bag of bricks and I started bawling and asked if I could see my baby. I was told there was not really anything to see, just bits of tissue. I cried even harder. Once I was fully awake I was taken back to same day surgery and then released. Afterward, I felt really raw inside as if I could actually feel where he had scraped my insides out. It took me about 3 months to heal completely and the 3 AFs following were absolutely horrible... I felt like I had been re-D&C'd every month, though the initial pain from the D&C got better after about a week or two. Do yourself a favor and if your doc doesn't volunteer a prescription pain killer, ask for one. You may not need it but if you are like me you'll definitely need something because tylenol didn't cut it.

My natural loss wasn't completely natural. I'd had a D&C about 3 weeks prior (that one was much easier on my body) but the OB had missed our bean. It was believe baby was ectopic, and nothing but an "abnormal sac of fluid" was seen inutero on ultrasound so I am guessing he just did a quick once over and ended up missing bean. After, we learned that baby was inutero and had a faint HB but a shot I was given in the hospital to terminate pregnancy (since they couldn't find the baby during surgery) ended the pregnancy after about a week and a half. Another week and a half'ish later I was at school (college) and I'd been cramping all day, but I have IBS and just figured my tummy was messed up. It kept getting worse so I took a pain killer and kept going to class. My last class of the day I was soooo uncomfortable. It hurt to sit or stand. Then the professor asked me to pass something out and (this is gross... sorry) I stood up and felt this jelly like substance tumbled out of me so I finished passing everything out as quickly as possible and made a b-line for the restroom thinking that I had just passed the baby. Turned out to just be the biggest clot I'd ever seen in my life (baseball sized or close to it) so I cleaned up and went back to class. At that point all heck broke loose and the pain intensified. Fortunately, at that point class was nearly over so I bit my lip and made it until the end and then walked as quickly as the pain would let me to get to my car. I had a 30 minute drive to get home and I knew I had to get home before it got any worse because I could barely focus as it was. I thought about calling my best friend (she helps my stay focused on the road when pain from my tummy issues made it difficult to focus as she has them too and knows what it's like) but the pain had me to a point that it was all I could do to put the car in cruise control and focus on staying in my lane. I finally got home and had to feed the kids so I made the quickest, most rudimentary dinner possible all the while curled up in agony. My mother in law had lost a baby and was there as she was my sitter so I turned to her in near tears to ask her if this is what it felt like when she lost her baby and she said "No!" so I was so confused and didn't know why I was hurting so bad which made the pain even more unbearable. I just kept assuming it was my tummy issues so I refused to go to the ER because A: if it was my tummy issues there was nothing but pain killers they could do for me and I had pills at home B: If I was losing the baby, I knew they would toss him/her in a biohazard bag and throw the bag away, and that wasn't happening and C: I was not very happy with the ER anyway as it was them that said baby was ectopic which I now knew was not the case. Finally, DH got home from work, admittedly only about 10 mins after I did but it felt soooooo much longer, so he finished up dinner so I could finally go take the strongest pain killer I had (it usually knocks me out) but it did nothing. All night I struggled to get relief with pain killer combos, heating pad... I even got in a hot, hot tub. The tub helped between what I now know were contractions but at the time I just thought of them as waves of pain. Due to my pain killer cocktail I would fall asleep between them... in the tub. Finally, scared that I'd fall asleep and drown, I got out and laid back down and added benadryl to my cocktail because it knocks me out too and I was finally able to get some sleep, not great sleep but better than nothing. At 6 am I woke up and got up to get my kids off to school. The moment I stood up I felt the jelly sensation again with a gush of blood this time so I carefully made my way to the bathroom. It was immediately obvious that it was my bean as I could see the sac and placenta. The pain was completely gone at this point and I was both thankful it was over and falling apart because I was holding my baby. I cleaned up and went to get a zip lock bag to keep him/her safe, then started getting my kids up as life must go on :( I don't think my experience is typical though, and yours may be easier. Only time will tell.

Again, I am sooooo sorry for your loss. Some ppl are able to "catch" bean like I did, some aren't. But you may want to consider how you wish to proceed if you do catch your bean. Do you want to give a peaceful burial in a house plant for example. There is no right or wrong thing to do. Just listen to your heart, it knows what you need for closure. (((HUGS)))

Your story sounds painful sorry u had to go through that. Thank you for sharing your experience, how long did u wait before you got pregnant again? What did u do for your girl sway?

[LoveRR]

I'm so sorry for you loss :(

My first mc was a blighted ovum and I opted for the d&c as I just wanted it over with. Physically it was all really easy and I recovered very quickly. I bleed less than a normal period and just spotted for a while. Emotionally it was my hardest as it was the first loss.

My 2nd one the baby wasn't growing and I decided to let it happen naturally as I had some concerns about rushing into the d&c the last time. It started with some light bleeding about two days before and then I started getting some cramps and about 2 hours later the bleeding started. There was lots of clots and blood and I was basically sitting on the toilet the whole time. I was losing more blood than normal. I passed out and ended up going to the hospital (via ambulance) so if you feel light headed or start feeling cold then you may be loosing too much. I think I was basically filling up a pad in less then 30 mins. I ended up with two blood transfusions and then had a d&c, it was quite traumatic so don't be silly like me and not pay attention to blood loss.

3rd time I did medical management at the hospital and was closely monitored for blood loss. I had a much more "normal" amount of blood loss and was able to spend more time off the toilet then on it. It was a lot slower than the previous and was 12 hours start to finish and I expect this is more like what natural miscarriages are normally like.

I hope everything goes ok and I didn't scare you with my story, I don't think it is common but it is good to be aware of what can happen. I'm so sorry you even have to go through this. Please take care and give yourself as much time as you need to grieve.

Thank you

[Bella29]

So sorry loverr. :(

I'll post a 22 week update this week. I feel huge, but it's more that my belly feels much heavier than it should for size, like a similarly sized pile of bricks versus pillows.

We had DS1's birthday party on Sunday and FIL showed up uninvited, refused to leave. I ended up having to miss my own child's birthday because of it. I can't handle the stress of being near him and all the crap he starts. If I would have stayed I'm sure things would have escalated to the point of me ending up in jail. And I'm so angry that DH can't or won't put him in his place and kick him out. FIL has been nothing but trouble for our relationship. I can't sit back and tolerate his abuse and DH can't deal with the conflict so he runs off and stays out all night drinking to avoid everything, or goes to one of his stores to sleep and be alone. It's getting ridiculous. He tells me he's not happy with things, but his inability to stand up to his dad is seriously ruining our marriage and FIL just keeps getting worse over the years. If I thought I had any hope of being able to support myself and 6 young kids by myself, not to mention all the day to day stuff like childcare and appointments, I'd leave. There's only so much I can take, especially when I don't feel like I've got any support or help with the issue.

Oh bunnygirl, I'm so sorry to hear that. That sounds crap. Your dh needs to grow some balls by the sounds of it. Hugs to you. You shouldn't have to miss your own little boys birthday. How horrible. Have you told your dh you are considering leaving? Because I find men are always so surprised when a woman leaves. They never realise just how serious it is until it is too late.

LoveRR, I'm so sorry for your loss. Go gently.


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[twointow83]

Your story sounds painful sorry u had to go through that. Thank you for sharing your experience, how long did u wait before you got pregnant again? What did u do for your girl sway?
After the D&C I waited one cycle. After my most recent loss I had to wait 3 but that was because of the shot they gave me. It lingers in the liver and can hurt a pregnancy if I got preg too soon.

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[lala22]

Oh bunnygirl, I'm so sorry to hear that. That sounds crap. Your dh needs to grow some balls by the sounds of it. Hugs to you. You shouldn't have to miss your own little boys birthday. How horrible. Have you told your dh you are considering leaving? Because I find men are always so surprised when a woman leaves. They never realise just how serious it is until it is too late.

LoveRR, I'm so sorry for your loss. Go gently.


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I agree bella. I left my husband when our oldest was 2 for about a year and it was eye opening for him. It changed everything for us and in a positive way.

[BunnyGirl19]

I have, but I'm pretty sure he realizes I can't actually follow through at this point. I have no income and I don't have a vehicle to hold all the kids. The best I can do is move out of our bedroom and be like a roommate right now. If I only had one kid and a job still I would have left until he could fix his part in the issues. He always acts shocked when I tell him something upsets me or makes me angry, like the thought never occurred to him.

[lala22]

I have, but I'm pretty sure he realizes I can't actually follow through at this point. I have no income and I don't have a vehicle to hold all the kids. The best I can do is move out of our bedroom and be like a roommate right now. If I only had one kid and a job still I would have left until he could fix his part in the issues. He always acts shocked when I tell him something upsets me or makes me angry, like the thought never occurred to him.

Men!

[twointow83]

I have, but I'm pretty sure he realizes I can't actually follow through at this point. I have no income and I don't have a vehicle to hold all the kids. The best I can do is move out of our bedroom and be like a roommate right now. If I only had one kid and a job still I would have left until he could fix his part in the issues. He always acts shocked when I tell him something upsets me or makes me angry, like the thought never occurred to him.
(((Hugs)))

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[Bella29]

They really are thick sometime aren't they. Unless you spell it out in capitals they don't get it.


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[girliedreamz]

LoveRR, I'm so sorry!

I had two natural m/cs. My m/c at 7 weeks was just like a really heavy period. Super heavy for about a day, and I passed a lot of clotting, then lighter. The worst was really the emotional part. I think I cried for two days straight. So sad.

My second m/c was at 11 weeks, and it was a bit harder physcially though I guess I was more prepared emotionally for it that time. Not much actual pain of any kind, other than what I'd call regular menstrual cramping. But tons of gushing blood. So much so that I spent a couple of hours in the bathroom because I literally would soak the depends underpants the second I stood up. I got a bit lightheaded and spent most of the rest of the day in bed, but I got lucky in that I didn't need to go to the ER. Just laying down for a bit was enough. I found out I had a non-viable pregnancy at 9 weeks, and the two weeks of waiting was the worst. I still had all the icky pregnancy symptoms but knew I wasn't getting my baby. I did take some homeopathic remedies and lots of Vitamin C to help speed up the mc. And I took tons of cinnamon tea afterwards to lessen the bleeding, which helped some. I bleed for a good two weeks at least, pretty heavily at first.

SO sorry you're having to go through this. Hugs, and please feel free to ask anything. For me it was so scary not knowing what to expect.

[Quinn31]

LoveRR so very sorry to see your news. Lots of positive thoughts coming your way. Miscarriages are one thing I just can't understand why they happen. It's so unfair.


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[twointow83]

So, as I've said before, my anxiety is in high gear lately and it keeps getting higher (nightmares, panic, etc.). Anxiety is the name of the game when it comes to pregnancy for me but I couldn't understand why it's so extreme right now. It hit me this morning. Not only am I in the critical time frame of pregnancy (16-17 weeks) when we lost our first angel (I already knew this) BUT it's the same time of year that we learned we lost both him AND our DD(May 2nd for both)... if that's not enough I should be gearing up for baby right now. Our most recent loss would have been due any day now :'( No wonder I'm a freakin' wreck.

[purple]

I'm sorry you are feeling so anxious Two :( It is understandable after everything you have been through. Have you tried many coping techniques? I have suffered anxiety in the past and hypnotherapy helped relax me. Also if you are up to it, try to get out for some fresh air and go for a walk. Practicing breathing is something else that might also help. I hope you are feeling better soon.

[twointow83]

I'm sorry you are feeling so anxious Two :( It is understandable after everything you have been through. Have you tried many coping techniques? I have suffered anxiety in the past and hypnotherapy helped relax me. Also if you are up to it, try to get out for some fresh air and go for a walk. Practicing breathing is something else that might also help. I hope you are feeling better soon.

Can't go for a walk. My hip is bummed out due to loose ligaments. Mainly just using distraction. As long as I can stay busy I don't think. If I don't think then I don't stress. But a person can only be so busy so some problems do sneak through. Breathing never really worked well for me in the heat of things. I tend to end up hyperventilating, no matter how much I try to control my breathing. When not preg or TTC I take anxiety meds as needed... not so much of an option right now though. Night/evening seems to be when it's at it's worst so DH knows to watch for signs and distract me if necessary. He's pretty good at it thankfully. No matter how upset I am somehow he always finds a way to make me laugh and calm me. The nightmares are unavoidable though. Just hoping once I make it to my u/s at 18 weeks and see that baby is fine and we've passed the "critical zone", passed the due date, etc. (plus I should be feeling stronger movements by then. I still only feel her BIG movements rolls, kicks and only the strong ones... I might only feel her a handful of times a day or maybe not at all right now) that I will finally be able to leave the bulk of anxiety behind and move forward with this pregnancy and maybe actually even be able to enjoy it. Might be a pipe dream but it is all I have to cling to right now.

[Bella29]

Oh two. Please be kind to yourself and don't fight the anxiety. You have every right to be anxious. I try to deal with fears by noticing them when they come into my mind and saying to myself. "That's probably a fairly reasonable and normal fear, it's ok to feel like that" and then let the thought drift out of my head again. I don't try not to think about it, I just relax and accept myself the way I am and with my quirks and fears and know I am a normal woman, with normal feelings and that's ok. Hugs to you. I will be hoping with you for the next few weeks to pass quickly.


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[Traci25]

I know how you feel. I'm in the same boat as you and I wish I had great advice for you. I was up all last night looking at ramzi pictures. And my 7 week ultrasound baby is facing to the rt which I'm guessing it means that's where the placenta is. I couldn't sleep. I'm so sad as well. I hate this feeling. I tried so hard but still nervous I dtd to close to O. I know they say it doesn't matter but I'm still a wreck. Know that your not alone! Hopefully talking about will
Ease the pain.

[Traci25]

I'm soooo sorry. I'm in your boat too! My heart breaks for you. I know families with all boys are the best if friends. I wish it was different for you

[Traci25]

Can anyone tell where the placenta is? I know it's mostly cut off, thought I check! The baby is facing to the right so I assume the placenta is on right as well, is that correct?? Trying to figure out ramzi. Transvaginal at 7 weeks 2 days. Thanks so much!

[twointow83]

Looks like right in the middle to me... I am not very good at ramzi so I am no help, sorry :(

[Traci25]

Thanks!! I see what your saying. It looks thicker! I've looked everywhere to see something similar and no luck!

[Bella29]

For what it is worth, my baby faced away from its placenta the whole time.


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[Traci25]

I didn't know they did that! Thanks!

[BunnyGirl19]

22 weeks

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[Bella29]

Oh bg, your looking so cute.


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[BunnyGirl19]

Thanks! I feel huge. LOL

[twointow83]

Thanks! I feel huge. LOL

Nah! Not huge at all! Adorable though!

[twointow83]

Still no real belly for me :/ 'bout the same as last week... only slightly more bump'ish. Happy I can still wear my clothes but was hoping for a belly by surprise time for my Grandma. With only 2 weeks between now and then, I don't think it's gonna happen. I can manufacture one by wearing maternity pants and pulling the stretchy part way up to round out my belly but it's not the real deal.

[Bella29]

To be honest BG, you look about like I do at 25 weeks with a singleton, so from my perspective, I don't think you are huge. I think you look normal and beautiful.


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[Bella29]

I do carry big tho Bg, so I don't think your undersized for a twin pregnancy, I just think your normal, like all the different sized and shaped bellies are normal. I feel like I have just really popped out this week. I was feeling my fundus yesterday evening and it already measures just two finger widths below my belly button, so I suspect I will carry large again this time around. :)


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[Quinn31]

I wish I had a cute bump. With all my pregnancies, I have a tiny bump but get wide. People always says it's because I'm having girls but it's more my body type and where I tend to gain weight.

I've been working out (safely) for an hour most days to hopefully counteract that. I don't want flabby arms with my maxi dresses this summer since I'm sure that's all I'll wear!


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[girliedreamz]

BG you look awesome! I'm almost as big as you and only have one on board... and I'm not as far along. lol!

How is everyone else doing? I'm oddly going from bursts of energy where I have to binge clean and organize for baby and total exhaustion other days. And I'm eating everything in sight. Or, I'd like to. Trying to hang on to some portion control.

Our anatomy scan is Monday. I can't wait! I'm taking my 6 year old with me, so I'm just praying everything looks fine. I don't want to lose it in front of him. But he's so excited to see his baby sister.

[BunnyGirl19]

I always carry straight out like a ball and from behind don't look pregnant. I've maintained a defined waist in the past all throughout also.

I have the same issue with my energy. It's either there in abundance or not at all. I'm having a hard time doing things though. It's painful to lean forward or bend over, which makes cleaning and picking up difficult. I'd kill for some real time to myself to sleep in, not have to worry about any cooking or cleaning, and be able to do whatever I want. I want to make some clithes and cloth diapers for the twins, leotards for DD, finish DD's quilt and a few other projects, etc. There's no chance of that ever happening, but I can dream. At this point I think I'd count myself lucky if my husband was actually home to help out once in awhile.

[dpike00]

I wish I had a cute bump. With all my pregnancies, I have a tiny bump but get wide. People always says it's because I'm having girls but it's more my body type and where I tend to gain weight.

I've been working out (safely) for an hour most days to hopefully counteract that. I don't want flabby arms with my maxi dresses this summer since I'm sure that's all I'll wear!


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I typically gain weight in my lower body but with my 2 boys pregnancies it wasn't too bad. From the first week with this one my butt got bigger and lumper. I'm gaining more weight in my bottom half. I thought it too was just how I gained weight and am older this time but my mom told me that happened with me and not my brother. I do think girl hormones play a little part in it.

[twointow83]

BG you look awesome! I'm almost as big as you and only have one on board... and I'm not as far along. lol!

How is everyone else doing? I'm oddly going from bursts of energy where I have to binge clean and organize for baby and total exhaustion other days. And I'm eating everything in sight. Or, I'd like to. Trying to hang on to some portion control.

Our anatomy scan is Monday. I can't wait! I'm taking my 6 year old with me, so I'm just praying everything looks fine. I don't want to lose it in front of him. But he's so excited to see his baby sister.

Good luck at your anatomy scan!! Please do update us :)

I'm doing so-so energy wise. I have more energy than I did during the first tri but it is burned quickly. I keep trying to clean my house but have yet to manage even finishing half before I am completely wiped. It doesn't help that the ligament in my right hip is too loose and my hip keeps momentarily popping (painfully) out of socket so I spend a lot of energy trying to protect that hip. But it'll all be worth it :) I'm looking forward to the surge of energy YOU have lol.

[twointow83]

I typically gain weight in my lower body but with my 2 boys pregnancies it wasn't too bad. From the first week with this one my butt got bigger and lumper. I'm gaining more weight in my bottom half. I thought it too was just how I gained weight and am older this time but my mom told me that happened with me and not my brother. I do think girl hormones play a little part in it.

I sooo wish I could gain some weight in my hind quarters! I don't have much cushion back there to start with since losing a ton a weight. Now, I am losing even more weight and I have next to NO cushion and sitting (even on some cushioned surfaces) can be quite uncomfortable. Never thought I'd WISH for a BIGGER hiney hahahahahahaha.

[lala22]

Who is feeling their littles? I felt my little guy so early- 13 weeks and you could see his hiccups on the outside and now at over 16 weeks I'm still barely feeling anything at all. I'm bummed:(

[twointow83]

I can feel her but still just barely. .. and only her big movements. Can't wait until I can feel her good and strong on a regular basis so I know she is okay at all times.

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[Bella29]

I felt bubs a few weeks ago but not in the last ten days. But I'm only 16 weeks, so I'm hopeful buns will start to let me know it's there soon. My fundus is way bigger now tho, so I'm feeling reassured that baby is growing


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[BunnyGirl19]

I'm feeling them like crazy now and my whole belly shakes on the outside now. Even with anterior placentas, they are very obvious.

[4blue2pink]

hi :) im new to this thread hope its ok for me to post here?? im 17 weeks and due in october with baby #7, i have had 4 boys and 2 girls but our first girl passed away during pregnancy..
i did a pink sway this time as would love another girl and for our youngest daughter to have a sister here with her at home. i dont know what im having this time yet and the anxiety is starting to bite!!
i didnt sway with any of my other babies, although i now realise i was living on a blue sway when i had my boys, constantly grazing on food throughout the day keeping blood sugar steady and bd right through each month.
my youngest daughter was conceived from 1 attempt that month which was followed by me coming down with gastro so i couldnt eat for 4 days, only thing i could keep down was an aspartame drink (i only ever drank water normally) and im certain my blood sugar was very low at the time too so total contrast to my boys!!
this time i went with LE diet, long fasts, no snacks, no red meat etc.. drinking diet coke and only one attempt which was done using at home AI for non-sway reasons, got my bfp first month which i was shocked at as i was certain the AI would take longer but it didnt and now im just hoping that the changes i made were enough to sway the odds in my favour :)
knowing that we did an intentional sway does make me more anxious this time, is there anyone else still waiting to find out the gender who is feeling the same way?
im trying not to get my hopes up but its hard when im suffering with frequent headaches, sore boobs and itchy skin again this time, exactly like i did with my daughter.. i didnt have any of those things with any of my 4 boys!! they were all brand new symptoms for me last time when i had my girl, i know symptoms arent reliable at all but i will be interested to see if its the same outcome as last time *fingers crossed*
wishing everyone on here happy and healthy pregnancies and i hope you all get the :XX: or :xy: your hoping for :) xx

[twointow83]

hi :) im new to this thread hope its ok for me to post here?? im 17 weeks and due in october with baby #7, i have had 4 boys and 2 girls but our first girl passed away during pregnancy..
i did a pink sway this time as would love another girl and for our youngest daughter to have a sister here with her at home. i dont know what im having this time yet and the anxiety is starting to bite!!
i didnt sway with any of my other babies, although i now realise i was living on a blue sway when i had my boys, constantly grazing on food throughout the day keeping blood sugar steady and bd right through each month.
my youngest daughter was conceived from 1 attempt that month which was followed by me coming down with gastro so i couldnt eat for 4 days, only thing i could keep down was an aspartame drink (i only ever drank water normally) and im certain my blood sugar was very low at the time too so total contrast to my boys!!
this time i went with LE diet, long fasts, no snacks, no red meat etc.. drinking diet coke and only one attempt which was done using at home AI for non-sway reasons, got my bfp first month which i was shocked at as i was certain the AI would take longer but it didnt and now im just hoping that the changes i made were enough to sway the odds in my favour :)
knowing that we did an intentional sway does make me more anxious this time, is there anyone else still waiting to find out the gender who is feeling the same way?
im trying not to get my hopes up but its hard when im suffering with frequent headaches, sore boobs and itchy skin again this time, exactly like i did with my daughter.. i didnt have any of those things with any of my 4 boys!! they were all brand new symptoms for me last time when i had my girl, i know symptoms arent reliable at all but i will be interested to see if its the same outcome as last time *fingers crossed*
wishing everyone on here happy and healthy pregnancies and i hope you all get the :XX: or :xy: your hoping for :) xx
Congratulations and welcome. I am 17 weeks also. What day are you due?

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[dpike00]

Welcome 4blue2pink!!! I got anxious waiting to find out about the sex around 16-17 weeks. We weren't going to find out but we got too curious. Luckily, our away worked and we are having our first girl. My pregnancy has been similar to my two boys, just a few slightly different things. Faster heart rate and dizzy in first tri. And gaining weight differently.

So I felt her at 11 weeks, she was sticking out of my belly and my kids could feel the hardness of her. I think it was the caffeine I had that day. I had been feeling flutters off and on after that for a couple weeks. Then I didn't feel much after that-a bit worrisome but she is fine. At around 21 weeks I'm starting to get way more movement. Hoping that keeps picking up. I felt like I felt my boys way more than this by now. Maybe she will be calm- that would be a lovely surprise because these boys surely aren't!!!


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[4blue2pink]

congratulations to you both on your girls dpike00 and twointow83 :) knowing you had successful sways gives me hope!! im due around the 10th october :)

[twointow83]

congratulations to you both on your girls dpike00 and twointow83 :) knowing you had successful sways gives me hope!! im due around the 10th october :)

Your EDD is the day after mine :) I didn't sway this time. We went through hell last year with losses so we decided to just do everything we could to achieve a healthy pregnancy and not worry about gender. We just got lucky. The only things we were doing that sways girl is clomid. We had multiple attempts, wasn't on diet, was taking my vits, etc.

[lala22]

Your EDD is the day after mine :) I didn't sway this time. We went through hell last year with losses so we decided to just do everything we could to achieve a healthy pregnancy and not worry about gender. We just got lucky. The only things we were doing that sways girl is clomid. We had multiple attempts, wasn't on diet, was taking my vits, etc.

I had no idea you didn't sway...wow you did get lucky..so awesome!

[Bella29]

Welcome 4b2p! Congratulations on your pregnancy. I'm 16 weeks and still don't know gender. We won't be finding out either unless I cave. We did get a 12 week ultrasound that showed a pretty solidly girly nub and I swayed for a boy. I have two girls and one boy. I like you would really like a same gender baby for my only gender child(that seems a really confusing way to write that, but I couldn't think of any better) In my case I want a brother for my little boy. I dont think that will happen sadly, and this is our last baby. I'm holding onto the 2% chance that this is actually a little boy. Are you planning to find out or are you team green?


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[girliedreamz]

Welcome, 4blue2pink! Sounds like you did everything you could for pink. Fingers crossed for you!

Our anatomy scan went well today! It was a lot faster than I thought it would be, so I sorta felt silly for getting so anxious over it. :) But everything was where it was supposed to be and she was kicking up a storm. Super active! Crazy to think she's moving that much and I still can't feel her. Soon I hope! My six year old got a real kick out of it. We heard a baby cry from another exam room, and he thought it was his sister--you know, since he could see her on the tech's screen. So cute.
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[4blue2pink]

so sorry to hear about your losses twointow wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy this time with your little girl :)

bella29 dont give up hope!! you never know!! but i understand your desire to have a brother for your little boy i will keep everything crossed for you :) i think we will find out im undecided!!

thankyou girliedreamz :) and congratulations on your little pink bean!!

[Bella29]

so sorry to hear about your losses twointow wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy this time with your little girl :)

bella29 dont give up hope!! you never know!! but i understand your desire to have a brother for your little boy i will keep everything crossed for you :) i think we will find out im undecided!!

thankyou girliedreamz :) and congratulations on your little pink bean!!

Thanks 4b2p. I will keep hoping and when I am likely holding a baby girl, I think in that moment I will be ok.

Anyone else not feeling their baby at 16 weeks with a posterior placenta? I haven't felt anything for awhile now. Which is really unusual for me. I've felt all my babies early. I thought I felt this baby a few weeks ago, but since then I haven't felt anything.


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[twointow83]

Welcome, 4blue2pink! Sounds like you did everything you could for pink. Fingers crossed for you!

Our anatomy scan went well today! It was a lot faster than I thought it would be, so I sorta felt silly for getting so anxious over it. :) But everything was where it was supposed to be and she was kicking up a storm. Super active! Crazy to think she's moving that much and I still can't feel her. Soon I hope! My six year old got a real kick out of it. We heard a baby cry from another exam room, and he thought it was his sister--you know, since he could see her on the tech's screen. So cute.
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Awww, what a precious memory :) :HH:

[twointow83]

I think I may have spoke too soon. I might have a noticeable bump in time for the surprise reveal after all. I noticed I looked preg yesterday but figured it was just the shirt I was wearing. Then today I got dressed and the bump is still there.. large and in charge to boot lol. I guess 17 weeks was the magic number for me this time. I'll try to get DH to take a pic tonight or tomorrow :)

The big day needs to come sooner than later!! I have been doing so good at biting my tongue when I talk to my grandma until today... I ALMOST spilled the beans!! We had planned to take the boys to disney world last year but with everything that happened we never made it. So we were talking about how my oldest asked if we were going to FL after the reunion and I said it'd be a good while before we would try to plan to go again and I ALMOST said "because I want the baby to be old enough to remember going"!! I caught myself JUST in time. I would have kicked myself if I'd kept it quiet and then only 11 days before the surprise I'd ruined it. SOOOOOO glad I caught myself!!

[Bella29]

Oh that's lucky two! I can't believe you have managed to keep the secret this long! Your amazing!


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[twointow83]

Oh that's lucky two! I can't believe you have managed to keep the secret this long! Your amazing!


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Local friends and family know so that helps. I just have to be careful on FB and on the phone with certain ppl who could blow the surprise. Though one of the local friends are riding my nerves. She has been asked more than once not to post anything about it on FB and she has done so twice in the comments of my posts. I've had to start restricting my posts from her. The most recent time her post was up for an hour before I saw it. Praying nobody but DH and I saw it.

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[Bella29]

Oh that would drive me nuts two! I have a real thing about people announcing on fb what is not theirs to announce. My dad accidentally announced the birth of our second child. Now when I call to tell him I make sure that he knows/remind him not to because he is always so excited.


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[twointow83]

Oh that would drive me nuts two! I have a real thing about people announcing on fb what is not theirs to announce. My dad accidentally announced the birth of our second child. Now when I call to tell him I make sure that he knows/remind him not to because he is always so excited.


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Ouch. That had to burn!

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[Bella29]

Yes if I didn't love him so much I would have been really mad. He only managed to tell mutual friends and family, but still.


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[twointow83]

Yes if I didn't love him so much I would have been really mad. He only managed to tell mutual friends and family, but still.


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I feel bad for my dad. He can't really talk about it and he is itching to I am sure. He can't tell anyone in his family because his family is her family too lol. I am sure he has told co-workers and friends but he has to be even more careful than I do. But it was his idea so I know he won't blow it. Just over a week left now then no more secrets. I can't wait!!!

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[lala22]

Keeping it a secret is hard...not even just for the fun part but I just hate keeping things in..it disrupts my energy. Lol

[twointow83]

Keeping it a secret is hard...not even just for the fun part but I just hate keeping things in..it disrupts my energy. Lol

It's hard to keep track... have you told everyone yet? How did you (or will you)?

I've never been able to keep it quiet this long... ever. Usually ppl know before I am even out of my first tri. But with our history this last year I couldn't bear the sadness in my Grandma's voice when she would hear bad news so we decided to keep it from her until it was "safe" (or at least as safe as preg can be) and we were sure bean was healthy. Then my Dad came up with the idea to surprise her when we go down for the family reunion. It's sooooo hard not to tell her and I feel like I've been lying to her but I just keep reminding myself that I want to SEE her face when she finds out. We are going to record it! I can't wait! Now that we are in countdown territory the anticipation of the surprise is helping with my anxieties too so that was a big unexpected blessing. I made her 2 shirts to spring the surprise. I had to tell her that the boys wanted to get her a shirt to get her size and everything so I made this one which she will see first in the gift bag(she loves tweety):

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Then this one will be underneath that one to spring the news....
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[Bella29]

I love them two! They are fantastic! Well done hey. Hard job to keep a surprise like that, but how exciting! I'm excited for your family. It will be a massive day!


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[twointow83]

I love them two! They are fantastic! Well done hey. Hard job to keep a surprise like that, but how exciting! I'm excited for your family. It will be a massive day!


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Thanks. I'm no artist but give me the picture/clipart and I can do a fair bit with it :)

More like a massive weekend lol. We are announcing to my Grandma (and my Aunt as she'll be there) first but then comes the reunion where we'll get to finally spill the beans no holds barred :) It will be such a relief! And we are going to announce on FB too so FINALLY there will be no more secret lol.

[lala22]

It's hard to keep track... have you told everyone yet? How did you (or will you)?

I've never been able to keep it quiet this long... ever. Usually ppl know before I am even out of my first tri. But with our history this last year I couldn't bear the sadness in my Grandma's voice when she would hear bad news so we decided to keep it from her until it was "safe" (or at least as safe as preg can be) and we were sure bean was healthy. Then my Dad came up with the idea to surprise her when we go down for the family reunion. It's sooooo hard not to tell her and I feel like I've been lying to her but I just keep reminding myself that I want to SEE her face when she finds out. We are going to record it! I can't wait! Now that we are in countdown territory the anticipation of the surprise is helping with my anxieties too so that was a big unexpected blessing. I made her 2 shirts to spring the surprise. I had to tell her that the boys wanted to get her a shirt to get her size and everything so I made this one which she will see first in the gift bag(she loves tweety):

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Then this one will be underneath that one to spring the news....
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I told everyone around 13 weeks..we surprised family at Easter by having an egg hunt that contained bits of a puzzle in each egg. WHen the put it together it was a photo of our eldest trying to photocopy our youngest and when we told them to go see what printed out, it was the ultrasound photo. It was my husband's brilliant idea. Lol. On FB we posted a photo of our eldest teaching the youngest the "balance of power" with all kinds of funny analogies on the chalkboard. We had a lot of fun announcing this time which is good since it's the last baby:-)

[twointow83]

took this yesterday but forgot to post. The beginnings of my bump :)

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[twointow83]

I told everyone around 13 weeks..we surprised family at Easter by having an egg hunt that contained bits of a puzzle in each egg. WHen the put it together it was a photo of our eldest trying to photocopy our youngest and when we told them to go see what printed out, it was the ultrasound photo. It was my husband's brilliant idea. Lol. On FB we posted a photo of our eldest teaching the youngest the "balance of power" with all kinds of funny analogies on the chalkboard. We had a lot of fun announcing this time which is good since it's the last baby:-)

Awww! Sounds like you did!! I am trying to come up with something fun for FB but something tells me that once my grandma knows I'm just going to blurt it all out on FB lol.

[Gagirl0221]

Well I found out today that I'm having my 4th girl! I told myself I would not be upset about it and be greatful that my baby is healthy and I have healthy pregnancy. I'm am saddened I will never have a son of my own or be able to give my husband a son. I dread to hear all the comments people make you have 4 girls. All of our friends have boys we are the only ones with girls. I wish now I would have never found out the gender so I could not have to be upset. I'm greatful and very blessed I just don't understand. I swayed did everything I could do for a boy. I know everything happens for a reason just have to accept it and don't question it but it's so hard. Thank you all for listening to me be selfish and vent. This was my pic today I feel it was poor quality for the money I paid. 31112

[Mulberry Smurf]

Hugs for you, I know this probably won't help but I would be so thrilled to have four little girls to cherish, am sure once she arrives you will be so in love but sorry you didn't hear boy st the scan today xx

[twointow83]

Well I found out today that I'm having my 4th girl! I told myself I would not be upset about it and be greatful that my baby is healthy and I have healthy pregnancy. I'm am saddened I will never have a son of my own or be able to give my husband a son. I dread to hear all the comments people make you have 4 girls. All of our friends have boys we are the only ones with girls. I wish now I would have never found out the gender so I could not have to be upset. I'm greatful and very blessed I just don't understand. I swayed did everything I could do for a boy. I know everything happens for a reason just have to accept it and don't question it but it's so hard. Thank you all for listening to me be selfish and vent. This was my pic today I feel it was poor quality for the money I paid. 31112
Hugs :( I'm sorry.

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[BunnyGirl19]

I wish my husband would hurry up and bring my embroidery machine home. I have several things planned for the twins that need embroidering. Grrr! I bought a bunch of plain onesies I want to do applique on, their blankets need their names, etc. I guess I need to start nagging at him for it. I'd drag it home myself, but neither the machine nor stand fit in my car and both things are too heavy for me to lift even if they did.

[twointow83]

I wish my husband would hurry up and bring my embroidery machine home. I have several things planned for the twins that need embroidering. Grrr! I bought a bunch of plain onesies I want to do applique on, their blankets need their names, etc. I guess I need to start nagging at him for it. I'd drag it home myself, but neither the machine nor stand fit in my car and both things are too heavy for me to lift even if they did.

I want one of those so badly lol. Will you share some stuff you make once you get it?

[lala22]

Well I found out today that I'm having my 4th girl! I told myself I would not be upset about it and be greatful that my baby is healthy and I have healthy pregnancy. I'm am saddened I will never have a son of my own or be able to give my husband a son. I dread to hear all the comments people make you have 4 girls. All of our friends have boys we are the only ones with girls. I wish now I would have never found out the gender so I could not have to be upset. I'm greatful and very blessed I just don't understand. I swayed did everything I could do for a boy. I know everything happens for a reason just have to accept it and don't question it but it's so hard. Thank you all for listening to me be selfish and vent. This was my pic today I feel it was poor quality for the money I paid. 31112

So sorry:( It will all be ok when she's in your arms.

[BunnyGirl19]

I want one of those so badly lol. Will you share some stuff you make once you get it?

Yep! At the moment I don't have anything fancy planned, but I can't do anything without my machine. LOL

[girliedreamz]

Well I found out today that I'm having my 4th girl! I told myself I would not be upset about it and be greatful that my baby is healthy and I have healthy pregnancy. I'm am saddened I will never have a son of my own or be able to give my husband a son. I dread to hear all the comments people make you have 4 girls. All of our friends have boys we are the only ones with girls. I wish now I would have never found out the gender so I could not have to be upset. I'm greatful and very blessed I just don't understand. I swayed did everything I could do for a boy. I know everything happens for a reason just have to accept it and don't question it but it's so hard. Thank you all for listening to me be selfish and vent. This was my pic today I feel it was poor quality for the money I paid. 31112
I'm so sorry! :( I feel for you, and I hope by finding out early you can be ready and feel less gd when she gets here. Hugs!

I know my uncle and his wife so badly wanted a little boy... and they got 4 girls. Those girls are grown now and the absolute best of friends. They had so much fun growing up that I was always jealous—they put on shows together for family and friends as a "girls" group, they had sleepovers all the time, and as adults did girls night and vacationed together often. Now they're starting to have kids of their own and my aunt and uncle have THREE adorable grandsons. They're loving all the boys things they get to do as grandparents now.

[Quinn31]

Well I found out today that I'm having my 4th girl! I told myself I would not be upset about it and be greatful that my baby is healthy and I have healthy pregnancy. I'm am saddened I will never have a son of my own or be able to give my husband a son. I dread to hear all the comments people make you have 4 girls. All of our friends have boys we are the only ones with girls. I wish now I would have never found out the gender so I could not have to be upset. I'm greatful and very blessed I just don't understand. I swayed did everything I could do for a boy. I know everything happens for a reason just have to accept it and don't question it but it's so hard. Thank you all for listening to me be selfish and vent. This was my pic today I feel it was poor quality for the money I paid. 31112

I'm right there with you. Well I'm having my 3rd girl and felt I did everything right. I have come to think luck of the draw is a huge part of it. Maybe we can do a small part to help but whichever one gets there first, wins. We only know one family with all girls so I've done a lot of angry comparing. I'm still sad, 3 weeks after find out. I think even when my daughter is here and I'm loving all of them, a part of me will always miss not having a son (especially for my dh). It really has nothing to do with our love for our girls because we know how much we will love and cherish them. It's the loss of the son we dared to hope we might have.

I'm happy to hear you have a healthy girl and I hope everyone is excited and kind to you.

[dpike00]

I'm sooo sorry Gagirl0221. The sadness is why I wanted to wait also but then I also didn't want to be sad when I finally met my baby. Hopefully, this will give you time to heal and come to terms.


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[Bella29]

I'm sorry gagirl. It hurts huh. I haven't found out for sure, but my nub shot could be the poster shot for a girl. It is very unlikely that I will get the gender I prefer and it does hurt. I'm sorry for your grief. My sister has four girls too and they are very happy even tho they too wished for a little boy. Now they look to the benefits and tell me they are sorry for me that I have one boy in my mix (whatever). Anyway, feel what you feel. It's completely rational to feel sad and disappointed and grief. I hope you can process it before bubs arrives.


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[Gagirl0221]

I'm so sorry! :( I feel for you, and I hope by finding out early you can be ready and feel less gd when she gets here. Hugs!

I know my uncle and his wife so badly wanted a little boy... and they got 4 girls. Those girls are grown now and the absolute best of friends. They had so much fun growing up that I was always jealous—they put on shows together for family and friends as a "girls" group, they had sleepovers all the time, and as adults did girls night and vacationed together often. Now they're starting to have kids of their own and my aunt and uncle have THREE adorable grandsons. They're loving all the boys things they get to do as grandparents now.
Thank you! I know that it's all in GODs plan and I pray they will all be close. I have been a lil angry today and I'm mad at myself for it bc I said I would not be like that. But I love this lil girl already she will be spoiled just like the rest of them. It's just hard to explain the feeling I feel right now. I am blessed to be a mom at all and to have healthy kids. Thank you for sharing your aunts story with me.

[Gagirl0221]

I'm right there with you. Well I'm having my 3rd girl and felt I did everything right. I have come to think luck of the draw is a huge part of it. Maybe we can do a small part to help but whichever one gets there first, wins. We only know one family with all girls so I've done a lot of angry comparing. I'm still sad, 3 weeks after find out. I think even when my daughter is here and I'm loving all of them, a part of me will always miss not having a son (especially for my dh). It really has nothing to do with our love for our girls because we know how much we will love and cherish them. It's the loss of the son we dared to hope we might have.

I'm happy to hear you have a healthy girl and I hope everyone is excited and kind to you.
Thank you Quinn. Yes your exactly right. It is the loss of a son. I wanted to give my husband a son so bad. He seems ok with it but I feel like deep down he hides it. We love all of our girls the same and are truly blessed. I just know that this was my last shot at having a BOY of our own. So it's very hard to swallow but I will be fine. I'm glad that I have I have others on this site that understands bc others look at me like I'm mean bc to them it's like I don't want this baby which is very wrong bc I planned them all. I can't control my emotions I wish I could. I'm like you I look at all of our friends around us and compare when I should not. I look at it as if I was not meant for boys or maybe I could not carry one. I would rather have a healthy girl then to have a boy with something wrong with him. So in my mind that's what I tell myself. This is GODs plan and I can't change it. I guess we all still can have a lil hope until the baby is born. I'm glad you could relate to me. I'm sorry to you also that you did not get to have a son yourself I pray though for you to have a healthy lil girl.

[Gagirl0221]

I'm sooo sorry Gagirl0221. The sadness is why I wanted to wait also but then I also didn't want to be sad when I finally met my baby. Hopefully, this will give you time to heal and come to terms.


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Yes I will be fine soon i may not ever understand why I can't have a son of my own but have to except there's a reason. Thank you for understanding.

[Gagirl0221]

I'm sorry gagirl. It hurts huh. I haven't found out for sure, but my nub shot could be the poster shot for a girl. It is very unlikely that I will get the gender I prefer and it does hurt. I'm sorry for your grief. My sister has four girls too and they are very happy even tho they too wished for a little boy. Now they look to the benefits and tell me they are sorry for me that I have one boy in my mix (whatever). Anyway, feel what you feel. It's completely rational to feel sad and disappointed and grief. I hope you can process it before bubs arrives.


Two girls and one boy, due October 16
Thank you! I know that I will be fine soon. I does hurt but I must except what GODs plan is for me. I may never understand it but I know I can't change it. I pray you get what you desire. Thank you for understanding.

[Blue Bear]

Gagirl do you mind if I ask how old you and your husband are? Quinn - I noticed in your profile that your DH is 45 - mine was almost 41 when we conceived our second DD in January. Just wondering how much that factors in. Quinn - I've followed some of your posts after you found out and have had the same heartbreak as you. It isn't as intense a month later but I still get sad thinking I will likely never have a son. Plus, I'm sure some of you ladies that have GD - just hearing someone is pregnant it's easy to assume right away that they are going to have your desired sex.

It just seems like we are girl makers as well - I felt like I followed the HE diet to almost a T. I wish I wouldn't have gained so much weight and lifted weights (was doing pilates instead). Gagirl and Quinn - I hear you on people's comments. They've already started - the best was one of my clients saying when I told her I was having a second daughter "That is so boring." Then she added "I hate girls." Needless to say you can kind of guess her personality. She has two teenage daughters and two sons that came later on. Another friend told me today that since my DH and his brother have girls that "isn't it ironic that they are having girls" or something to that nature. Whatever.... (and she has two sons).

Thanks for sharing on here ladies. Seems like a lot of us are getting girls overall!! Did you see from 2015 that the rate of success for boys is 57% so far? So I guess we aren't in the huge minority. Seems like the success rate had been so high in the past for boy sways - and it seemed like it was so much easier to get boys - but with our group it's looking like the opposite!

[Gagirl0221]

Gagirl do you mind if I ask how old you and your husband are? Quinn - I noticed in your profile that your DH is 45 - mine was almost 41 when we conceived our second DD in January. Just wondering how much that factors in. Quinn - I've followed some of your posts after you found out and have had the same heartbreak as you. It isn't as intense a month later but I still get sad thinking I will likely never have a son. Plus, I'm sure some of you ladies that have GD - just hearing someone is pregnant it's easy to assume right away that they are going to have your desired sex.

It just seems like we are girl makers as well - I felt like I followed the HE diet to almost a T. I wish I wouldn't have gained so much weight and lifted weights (was doing pilates instead). Gagirl and Quinn - I hear you on people's comments. They've already started - the best was one of my clients saying when I told her I was having a second daughter "That is so boring." Then she added "I hate girls." Needless to say you can kind of guess her personality. She has two teenage daughters and two sons that came later on. Another friend told me today that since my DH and his brother have girls that "isn't it ironic that they are having girls" or something to that nature. Whatever.... (and she has two sons).

Thanks for sharing on here ladies. Seems like a lot of us are getting girls overall!! Did you see from 2015 that the rate of success for boys is 57% so far? So I guess we aren't in the huge minority. Seems like the success rate had been so high in the past for boy sways - and it seemed like it was so much easier to get boys - but with our group it's looking like the opposite!

Thank you Blue Bear. I am 32 my DH is 38 but I know for sure he don't want anymore kids I say maybe GOD will let me adopt a lil boy one day. I know it's not the same of my own but I would love him the same. I hate that we all are not getting the desired sex we want. I'm over being mad and angry. I just thank GOD I can have kids and they are healthy. I guess we all never knows what our future holds. My husband refuses to get fixed and I'm not getting my tubes tied so you never know what may happen down the road. I feel like I'm still young but I'm not sure I want more than 4 kids. I wish us all good luck raising our girls. I guess we need a big savings for weddings lol. Maybe we will have some handsome grandsons one day.

[Bella29]

Still not feeling bubs move. 17 weeks on Monday and I've always felt my babies well before this quite clearly. This time I have wondered a few times if I can feel bubs, but I don't think it's certain. I know bubs is ok, because I've had horrific headaches in the past week and a half so I saw my gp, who had a quick listen for me, just to reassure me. That was nice. He only caught it for about 5 seconds, but it was all I needed really to know. Anyway, I wish I could feel this bubs, but I don't want to hurry this last pregnancy along. It's far to precious a time for me.

How is everyone else travelling?


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[twointow83]

Still not feeling bubs move. 17 weeks on Monday and I've always felt my babies well before this quite clearly. This time I have wondered a few times if I can feel bubs, but I don't think it's certain. I know bubs is ok, because I've had horrific headaches in the past week and a half so I saw my gp, who had a quick listen for me, just to reassure me. That was nice. He only caught it for about 5 seconds, but it was all I needed really to know. Anyway, I wish I could feel this bubs, but I don't want to hurry this last pregnancy along. It's far to precious a time for me.

How is everyone else travelling?


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Are you one among those who have the anterior placenta?? I still don't feel Jules (Baby's nickname) as much as I'd like. Her kicks are still pretty light most of the time... kinda a situation where unless I am still and relaxing I don't really feel her. I had a dream last night about getting to that point where when they stretch you can point out body parts (foot, bum, head, etc.). Even in the dream it felt uncomfortable but I still can't wait. Poor DH is itching to be able to feel her from the outside but even though she does very RARELY give a kick hard enough to feel on the outside, every time he puts his hand on my belly she stops moving completely. Like last night, she was in there doing karate or something and the moment DH put his hand on my belly she was completely still. Anyway, you are getting into the territory where you'll definitely be able to feel your bub move soon (barring anterior placenta... I don't know how much that affects things) and if you are active s/he (gender is not in your signature so I can't remember for sure on what you are having though I think I remember you saying girl) may be kicking but just not hard enough to be felt while you are active. Also, baby tends to sleep when Mom is active as it's kinda like they are being rocked in there so baby may be up and active at night while you sleep. Or you may just have a more chill baby. This bean has been a mover and shaker since the beginning so she is pretty active but some babies tend to be less active than others. Kinda like at a pool... some people like to swim around and have a good time, some just want to hang out, maybe float around and just enjoy the relaxation. Same deal with our beans.

[lala22]

Yeah I sort of kind of feel this one at night but I mean barely and have only seen it once from the outside while I was in the bath..I too felt the others way more. I don't know where my placenta is but maybe this time it's anterior. I'm dying for all of the movement though- it's my favorite part of being pregnant!

[Traci25]

My 12+0 potty shot looks boy. Tech said 95% boy. I'm heartbroken. I know it can change and it's early. And potty shots are almost impossible at that gesation but, no tech has been wrong for me. I desperately wanted a dd. I'm sorry for all those experiencing gd. It's horrible! I just wan to be excited like my other pregnancies. Il attach photos. I know there is a chance still. But feeling doubtful. I thought the nub pict looked girly, but video I took looks boy.
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[twointow83]

Yeah I sort of kind of feel this one at night but I mean barely and have only seen it once from the outside while I was in the bath..I too felt the others way more. I don't know where my placenta is but maybe this time it's anterior. I'm dying for all of the movement though- it's my favorite part of being pregnant!

Mine too! It's that perfect time frame between being sick, tired, etc. and being huge, uncomfortable, unable to sleep, etc. I think it lends to a sneak peek of their personalities too. Before they are so big that they can't move as much you can kinda watch for ques... for example I can already tell this one is gonna be the money sort ;) Guess I can say goodbye to sleep for awhile lol, I have a feeling she isn't going to be a great sleeper. But she'll fit right in with my two monkey boys. Hoping I'm wrong... would LOVE a chill, good sleeping baby for once but I'm not holding my breath lol.

I just pray she doesn't present as many issues nursing as my boys did. Both were lazy nursers. My oldest refused to even latch most of the time and even when he did he didn't put enough work into it to get much of anything out, so I had to pump and eventually formula feed him (not that I see anything wrong with formula, or moms who choose that route! We all do the best we can with our situations). My youngest thought I was a pacifier with a milk filled center. He literally nursed 24 hours a day... zero exaggeration. If I had to use the restroom I either had to take him with and nurse while I did my business (very difficult!) or just let him scream while I went. I was over a week post-partum before I got my first shower and poor daddy did the best he could to keep him calm but it was a losing battle. I even had to learn how to nurse while I slept... or I wouldn't have slept.He got what he needed but instead of having meals he just grazed CONSTANTLY! Around 6 weeks we had to coax him to start taking a bottle (he didn't like any nipples that weren't God made lol) and had to teach him to want a full tummy because I was going back to school and needed for others to be able to feed him. It took a couple weeks, my ENTIRE stock of frozen pumped milk (he would nurse on one side while I pumped the other side as I was trying to build a stockpile) and formula when that ran out but we finally got him to where he would nurse for food and not just comfort AND be able to take a bottle when necessary. I sooooo very much pray that she takes to it like a pro and we don't have so many issues. I'll deal if we do, just like I've done before. BUT it would be so nice, considering she'll be my last, to have a nice, normal, enjoyable nursing experience and bond... the kind others talk about having. I feel bad complaining... well not really complaining but remembering not-so-fondly, given all the health issues my kids have had since, but it was a rough road I'd prefer not to repeat!

Anyone else here have a rough road with nursing (or any other infant parenting topic) that you are hoping doesn't repeat this time?

[twointow83]

My 12+0 potty shot looks boy. Tech said 95% boy. I'm heartbroken. I know it can change and it's early. And potty shots are almost impossible at that gesation but, no tech has been wrong for me. I desperately wanted a dd. I'm sorry for all those experiencing gd. It's horrible! I just wan to be excited like my other pregnancies. Il attach photos. I know there is a chance still. But feeling doubtful. I thought the nub pict looked girly, but video I took looks boy.
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At 12 weeks everything is just developing and still swollen. My OB's office, and high risk specialist's office, won't even venture a guess before 16 weeks for that reason and even then they are reluctant... they prefer to wait until 18 weeks. Don't give up hope yet. (((HUGS)))

[Traci25]

Thank you I'm trying but ever since she told me boy I've been staring at potty and nub shots! I'm driving myself crazy. I really felt girl had visions of the future I think I should just prepare for boy and be surprise if it switches. I can't believe how hard it is given up on thought of my dd!

[lala22]

My 12+0 potty shot looks boy. Tech said 95% boy. I'm heartbroken. I know it can change and it's early. And potty shots are almost impossible at that gesation but, no tech has been wrong for me. I desperately wanted a dd. I'm sorry for all those experiencing gd. It's horrible! I just wan to be excited like my other pregnancies. Il attach photos. I know there is a chance still. But feeling doubtful. I thought the nub pict looked girly, but video I took looks boy.
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I'm not seeing any nub in these photos.

[lala22]

Mine too! It's that perfect time frame between being sick, tired, etc. and being huge, uncomfortable, unable to sleep, etc. I think it lends to a sneak peek of their personalities too. Before they are so big that they can't move as much you can kinda watch for ques... for example I can already tell this one is gonna be the money sort ;) Guess I can say goodbye to sleep for awhile lol, I have a feeling she isn't going to be a great sleeper. But she'll fit right in with my two monkey boys. Hoping I'm wrong... would LOVE a chill, good sleeping baby for once but I'm not holding my breath lol.

I just pray she doesn't present as many issues nursing as my boys did. Both were lazy nursers. My oldest refused to even latch most of the time and even when he did he didn't put enough work into it to get much of anything out, so I had to pump and eventually formula feed him (not that I see anything wrong with formula, or moms who choose that route! We all do the best we can with our situations). My youngest thought I was a pacifier with a milk filled center. He literally nursed 24 hours a day... zero exaggeration. If I had to use the restroom I either had to take him with and nurse while I did my business (very difficult!) or just let him scream while I went. I was over a week post-partum before I got my first shower and poor daddy did the best he could to keep him calm but it was a losing battle. I even had to learn how to nurse while I slept... or I wouldn't have slept.He got what he needed but instead of having meals he just grazed CONSTANTLY! Around 6 weeks we had to coax him to start taking a bottle (he didn't like any nipples that weren't God made lol) and had to teach him to want a full tummy because I was going back to school and needed for others to be able to feed him. It took a couple weeks, my ENTIRE stock of frozen pumped milk (he would nurse on one side while I pumped the other side as I was trying to build a stockpile) and formula when that ran out but we finally got him to where he would nurse for food and not just comfort AND be able to take a bottle when necessary. I sooooo very much pray that she takes to it like a pro and we don't have so many issues. I'll deal if we do, just like I've done before. BUT it would be so nice, considering she'll be my last, to have a nice, normal, enjoyable nursing experience and bond... the kind others talk about having. I feel bad complaining... well not really complaining but remembering not-so-fondly, given all the health issues my kids have had since, but it was a rough road I'd prefer not to repeat!

Anyone else here have a rough road with nursing (or any other infant parenting topic) that you are hoping doesn't repeat this time?

Good question. My first was a terrible nurser and now that I have insight with having two I really believe my babies just don't have big enough mouths in the beginning as I have really large nipples. So we really struggled with weight gain and myself with excruciating pain. She was also a horrendous sleeper and like your second a constant grazer..the only time I got a break was when my husband came home and wore her to sleep for her last nap. I didn't realize then but I know now I think I suffered from a bit of ppd..it was a rough first 11 months or so. With my second, nursing was really painful but he latched very well and after 4 weeks things were better but if I could just go without pain at all I would love that. He slept fantastically until 3 1/2 months and then it all went to hell. Lol. But then all good again around 10 months and his demeanor was far easier than my first..still is. My first is our demon child. Lol. She really, really tries our patience and while our second has his bad days, overall he is the easiest, happiest most loving kiddo. It's crazy how different your kids can be. I will look forward to seeing this one's personality and am just hoping, that if it is in fact a girl, that she is more chill than her older sister..oh how nice to have a go with the flow baby! Haha

[BunnyGirl19]

Nursing is always a problem for me, especially since I have preemies. Their mouths are tiny and it takes a lot of energy. Then I get nagged about their weight and am expected to bring them in every day or two to be weighed while they demand I up their feed volumes and give formula as well. Then depending on which LC I see, I'm doing it wrong and get told to do something only to be told the opposite the next time. I really feel like telling everyone to eff off because they are causing me nothing but stress and likely affecting my milk supply and any success I may have at nursing if I just work at it myself instead. The way I see it, my kids always have had enough wet and poopy diapers so it's not like I'm starving them or dehydrating them. Just because their weight is slow they are adamant there is a problem. Even now I get nagged that my kids are so thin for their height and they want me to sneak in all sorts of extra fats and oils to their meals to get them more calories to fatten them up. They are healthy, rarely get sick, and super active so I'm not worried about it. They eat well too. I think it's bad to encourage or force them to eat more than they are hungry for and I shouldn't have to sneak things into their food either.

[twointow83]

Good question. My first was a terrible nurser and now that I have insight with having two I really believe my babies just don't have big enough mouths in the beginning as I have really large nipples. So we really struggled with weight gain and myself with excruciating pain. She was also a horrendous sleeper and like your second a constant grazer..the only time I got a break was when my husband came home and wore her to sleep for her last nap. I didn't realize then but I know now I think I suffered from a bit of ppd..it was a rough first 11 months or so. With my second, nursing was really painful but he latched very well and after 4 weeks things were better but if I could just go without pain at all I would love that. He slept fantastically until 3 1/2 months and then it all went to hell. Lol. But then all good again around 10 months and his demeanor was far easier than my first..still is. My first is our demon child. Lol. She really, really tries our patience and while our second has his bad days, overall he is the easiest, happiest most loving kiddo. It's crazy how different your kids can be. I will look forward to seeing this one's personality and am just hoping, that if it is in fact a girl, that she is more chill than her older sister..oh how nice to have a go with the flow baby! Haha

Any chance it was thrush? I had a cesarean with both my kids and they pump you up with so many antibiotics that it almost makes thrush inevitable. My nips felt like he was nursing with glass shards in his mouth with my youngest. Out of desperation, I called the local LC and begged for her help and she came right over and diagnosed the issue right off without even seeing my BBs by just asking if my nips were shiny and they were super shiny... like twilight vampire shiny lol. So, this time before I even leave the hosp I am asking for a script for diflucan and hoping that will help prevent it happening again. Yeast and nursing sucks lol. I spent like a week with purple BBs and a purple mouthed baby (gentian violet) before finally giving up and getting a script. The GV helped with the pain, and kept it from getting worse but it wasn't going away. This time I am going straight for the pill! One bonus of having a baby that nursed constantly is that I have the latch part down pat because he'd nurse for a bit, fall asleep and unlatch then if I so much a blinked funny he was awake again and I had to re-latch him. Also, I have large nips too. If you kinda squish your nip into a line instead of a big circle, in my experience, baby latches better and then their mouth naturally releases the part they don't need to nurse. An LC with my first son had me do that with him... didn't really help with him because he was just lazy, but it helped A LOT with my youngest. Might be worth a try...

[Traci25]

Is that long white line in the second pict the nub? It gets thicker at the end?

[twointow83]

Nursing is always a problem for me, especially since I have preemies. Their mouths are tiny and it takes a lot of energy. Then I get nagged about their weight and am expected to bring them in every day or two to be weighed while they demand I up their feed volumes and give formula as well. Then depending on which LC I see, I'm doing it wrong and get told to do something only to be told the opposite the next time. I really feel like telling everyone to eff off because they are causing me nothing but stress and likely affecting my milk supply and any success I may have at nursing if I just work at it myself instead. The way I see it, my kids always have had enough wet and poopy diapers so it's not like I'm starving them or dehydrating them. Just because their weight is slow they are adamant there is a problem. Even now I get nagged that my kids are so thin for their height and they want me to sneak in all sorts of extra fats and oils to their meals to get them more calories to fatten them up. They are healthy, rarely get sick, and super active so I'm not worried about it. They eat well too. I think it's bad to encourage or force them to eat more than they are hungry for and I shouldn't have to sneak things into their food either.

Agreed. My oldest was lethargic and wouldn't wake up, that's how we found out he wasn't getting anything. Slow weight gain doesn't say as much as their output. If output is adequate then they are getting enough. With my youngest I had the opposite problem. He has always been solid... like football player build. They were always complaining he weighed too much. At 6 months his ped demanded I put him on a diet. I switched docs. He isn't/wasn't a chubby kid but weighed in the 90+ percentile so they always thought I was over feeding him.

[lala22]

Any chance it was thrush? I had a cesarean with both my kids and they pump you up with so many antibiotics that it almost makes thrush inevitable. My nips felt like he was nursing with glass shards in his mouth with my youngest. Out of desperation, I called the local LC and begged for her help and she came right over and diagnosed the issue right off without even seeing my BBs by just asking if my nips were shiny and they were super shiny... like twilight vampire shiny lol. So, this time before I even leave the hosp I am asking for a script for diflucan and hoping that will help prevent it happening again. Yeast and nursing sucks lol. I spent like a week with purple BBs and a purple mouthed baby (gentian violet) before finally giving up and getting a script. The GV helped with the pain, and kept it from getting worse but it wasn't going away. This time I am going straight for the pill! One bonus of having a baby that nursed constantly is that I have the latch part down pat because he'd nurse for a bit, fall asleep and unlatch then if I so much a blinked funny he was awake again and I had to re-latch him. Also, I have large nips too. If you kinda squish your nip into a line instead of a big circle, in my experience, baby latches better and then their mouth naturally releases the part they don't need to nurse. An LC with my first son had me do that with him... didn't really help with him because he was just lazy, but it helped A LOT with my youngest. Might be worth a try...

I DID have thrush with my youngest but that was only for a couple weeks..the rest was just her not latching well at all. People don't believe me but things weren't super easy until 6 months. I persevered though. I learned the sandwhich squeeze this second time around! Maybe that 's why the pain only last 4 weeks but dang...I just don't want it at all:/ And when my milk comes in I'm engorged and miserable..this last time I switched between hot and cold and even tried pumping (which some LC say no no to but a midwife told me to try). I dread that part. You know what else I dread? The after birth contractions! Bleh.

[lala22]

I DID have thrush with my youngest but that was only for a couple weeks..the rest was just her not latching well at all. People don't believe me but things weren't super easy until 6 months. I persevered though. I learned the sandwhich squeeze this second time around! Maybe that 's why the pain only last 4 weeks but dang...I just don't want it at all:/ And when my milk comes in I'm engorged and miserable..this last time I switched between hot and cold and even tried pumping (which some LC say no no to but a midwife told me to try). I dread that part. You know what else I dread? The after birth contractions! Bleh.

Will you try for a vbac two?

[twointow83]

For reference- this is my son around that time frame. Does he look like he needs to go on a diet to any of you?

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[twointow83]

I DID have thrush with my youngest but that was only for a couple weeks..the rest was just her not latching well at all. People don't believe me but things weren't super easy until 6 months. I persevered though. I learned the sandwhich squeeze this second time around! Maybe that 's why the pain only last 4 weeks but dang...I just don't want it at all:/ And when my milk comes in I'm engorged and miserable..this last time I switched between hot and cold and even tried pumping (which some LC say no no to but a midwife told me to try). I dread that part. You know what else I dread? The after birth contractions! Bleh.

Ugh! Have you tried nipple guards? They were nothing but a hassle for me and it still hurt but it might be worth a try :/ Hope this one goes easier for you!

[twointow83]

Will you try for a vbac two?

I'd love to and based on ACOG guidelines I qualify as I had a VBAC between my two cesareans (first loss) and my OB isn't opposed BUT the hospital where he has privileges has a policy banning trial of labor after 2 cesareans so we can't even try. It's ok. I've made my peace with it and although I miss the fact that I'll never get to wonder "is this it?? Is it time?" and the excitement that comes with that I kinda like the fact that we can plan it so that DH can be there. Last time they lowered the curtain so I could actually see my son pulled out (then they put it back up) which was nice and I am going to see if they will do the same again this time. Seeing him pulled out made it feel more like a birth than a surgery and I will always have that memory :) I got to be among the first to see him instead of the last like I was with my first (they knocked me out and the pain killers kept me practically unconscious all day long. I didn't get to see him until he was about 12 hours old and I didn't get to hold him until he was a day old. Honestly, given the fact that the sooner baby is out the sooner I'll feel safe I don't know, if given the option that I wouldn't go ahead with the cesarean anyway. They can deliver me as soon as I am term via cesarean, but I could end up going over due if I have to wait to labor adding up to 3 weeks to my worry and anxiety. The idea of vaginal birth is a nice dream but the security of having baby safely in my arms as soon as possible far outweighs a dream.

[lala22]

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17 weeks 3 days!

[lala22]

I'd love to and based on ACOG guidelines I qualify as I had a VBAC between my two cesareans (first loss) and my OB isn't opposed BUT the hospital where he has privileges has a policy banning trial of labor after 2 cesareans so we can't even try. It's ok. I've made my peace with it and although I miss the fact that I'll never get to wonder "is this it?? Is it time?" and the excitement that comes with that I kinda like the fact that we can plan it so that DH can be there. Last time they lowered the curtain so I could actually see my son pulled out (then they put it back up) which was nice and I am going to see if they will do the same again this time. Seeing him pulled out made it feel more like a birth than a surgery and I will always have that memory :) I got to be among the first to see him instead of the last like I was with my first (they knocked me out and the pain killers kept me practically unconscious all day long. I didn't get to see him until he was about 12 hours old and I didn't get to hold him until he was a day old. Honestly, given the fact that the sooner baby is out the sooner I'll feel safe I don't know, if given the option that I wouldn't go ahead with the cesarean anyway. They can deliver me as soon as I am term via cesarean, but I could end up going over due if I have to wait to labor adding up to 3 weeks to my worry and anxiety. The idea of vaginal birth is a nice dream but the security of having baby safely in my arms as soon as possible far outweighs a dream.

I hear ya..I've had incredible birth experiences and c-sections scare the crap out of me but I know that if mine or the baby's health was any way at risk..it would be a no brainer.

[lala22]

Ugh! Have you tried nipple guards? They were nothing but a hassle for me and it still hurt but it might be worth a try :/ Hope this one goes easier for you!

Two of my friends used these and it did help them in the beginning pain wise but they both said they were a royal pain in the ass..it could be worth the try.

[lala22]

For reference- this is my son around that time frame. Does he look like he needs to go on a diet to any of you?

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Did someone say he needed to?!

[BunnyGirl19]

I'd love to and based on ACOG guidelines I qualify as I had a VBAC between my two cesareans (first loss) and my OB isn't opposed BUT the hospital where he has privileges has a policy banning trial of labor after 2 cesareans so we can't even try. It's ok. I've made my peace with it and although I miss the fact that I'll never get to wonder "is this it?? Is it time?" and the excitement that comes with that I kinda like the fact that we can plan it so that DH can be there. Last time they lowered the curtain so I could actually see my son pulled out (then they put it back up) which was nice and I am going to see if they will do the same again this time. Seeing him pulled out made it feel more like a birth than a surgery and I will always have that memory :) I got to be among the first to see him instead of the last like I was with my first (they knocked me out and the pain killers kept me practically unconscious all day long. I didn't get to see him until he was about 12 hours old and I didn't get to hold him until he was a day old. Honestly, given the fact that the sooner baby is out the sooner I'll feel safe I don't know, if given the option that I wouldn't go ahead with the cesarean anyway. They can deliver me as soon as I am term via cesarean, but I could end up going over due if I have to wait to labor adding up to 3 weeks to my worry and anxiety. The idea of vaginal birth is a nice dream but the security of having baby safely in my arms as soon as possible far outweighs a dream.

I just read an article recently about how they have clear drapes for c-sections now so you can see what's going on. I don't know how widespread their use is though.

I think I'm leaning toward having a c-section with the twins even if they end up in a good position to deliver vaginally. I think I'll worry too much that domething is going to happen to one or both of them during labor otherwise. I need to do more research still. My doctor is very pro VBAC and I've had a VBAC already. He prefers that route if things are favorable for it. With a singleton I'm fine with it. I'm just so anxious about delivering the twins safely. I've been having nagging thoughts lately that something goes seriously wrong.

[twointow83]

Did someone say he needed to?!
Yes. He was 6 months old and his ped demanded he be put on a diet.

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[twointow83]

I just read an article recently about how they have clear drapes for c-sections now so you can see what's going on. I don't know how widespread their use is though.

I think I'm leaning toward having a c-section with the twins even if they end up in a good position to deliver vaginally. I think I'll worry too much that domething is going to happen to one or both of them during labor otherwise. I need to do more research still. My doctor is very pro VBAC and I've had a VBAC already. He prefers that route if things are favorable for it. With a singleton I'm fine with it. I'm just so anxious about delivering the twins safely. I've been having nagging thoughts lately that something goes seriously wrong.
Go with your gut and docs advice but maybe you could deliver in the OR that way if there is an issue you are already there? Just a thought, but do what feels right.

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[BunnyGirl19]

I delivered my last in the OR. He was my VBAC, but also a 30 weeker. That was because the resuscitation room was right across the hall from the OR and he was expected to have breathing issues though. Not for any other reason.

[lala22]

I delivered my last in the OR. He was my VBAC, but also a 30 weeker. That was because the resuscitation room was right across the hall from the OR and he was expected to have breathing issues though. Not for any other reason.

Wow! 30 weeks?! How scary..and delivering in the OR sounds far from soothing but if it gave you the safest possible outcome then it would be worth it.

[twointow83]

I delivered my last in the OR. He was my VBAC, but also a 30 weeker. That was because the resuscitation room was right across the hall from the OR and he was expected to have breathing issues though. Not for any other reason.
Eek! 30 weeks... glad it all turned out well!

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[Bella29]

Mine too! It's that perfect time frame between being sick, tired, etc. and being huge, uncomfortable, unable to sleep, etc. I think it lends to a sneak peek of their personalities too. Before they are so big that they can't move as much you can kinda watch for ques... for example I can already tell this one is gonna be the money sort ;) Guess I can say goodbye to sleep for awhile lol, I have a feeling she isn't going to be a great sleeper. But she'll fit right in with my two monkey boys. Hoping I'm wrong... would LOVE a chill, good sleeping baby for once but I'm not holding my breath lol.

I just pray she doesn't present as many issues nursing as my boys did. Both were lazy nursers. My oldest refused to even latch most of the time and even when he did he didn't put enough work into it to get much of anything out, so I had to pump and eventually formula feed him (not that I see anything wrong with formula, or moms who choose that route! We all do the best we can with our situations). My youngest thought I was a pacifier with a milk filled center. He literally nursed 24 hours a day... zero exaggeration. If I had to use the restroom I either had to take him with and nurse while I did my business (very difficult!) or just let him scream while I went. I was over a week post-partum before I got my first shower and poor daddy did the best he could to keep him calm but it was a losing battle. I even had to learn how to nurse while I slept... or I wouldn't have slept.He got what he needed but instead of having meals he just grazed CONSTANTLY! Around 6 weeks we had to coax him to start taking a bottle (he didn't like any nipples that weren't God made lol) and had to teach him to want a full tummy because I was going back to school and needed for others to be able to feed him. It took a couple weeks, my ENTIRE stock of frozen pumped milk (he would nurse on one side while I pumped the other side as I was trying to build a stockpile) and formula when that ran out but we finally got him to where he would nurse for food and not just comfort AND be able to take a bottle when necessary. I sooooo very much pray that she takes to it like a pro and we don't have so many issues. I'll deal if we do, just like I've done before. BUT it would be so nice, considering she'll be my last, to have a nice, normal, enjoyable nursing experience and bond... the kind others talk about having. I feel bad complaining... well not really complaining but remembering not-so-fondly, given all the health issues my kids have had since, but it was a rough road I'd prefer not to repeat!

Anyone else here have a rough road with nursing (or any other infant parenting topic) that you are hoping doesn't repeat this time?

Hey two, did your bubs get checked for tongue ties and lip ties? It can cause a fair few of the issues you are describing and it is a commonly missed issue. I hope you have an easier breastfeeding journey this time.


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[Bella29]

Are you one among those who have the anterior placenta?? I still don't feel Jules (Baby's nickname) as much as I'd like. Her kicks are still pretty light most of the time... kinda a situation where unless I am still and relaxing I don't really feel her. I had a dream last night about getting to that point where when they stretch you can point out body parts (foot, bum, head, etc.). Even in the dream it felt uncomfortable but I still can't wait. Poor DH is itching to be able to feel her from the outside but even though she does very RARELY give a kick hard enough to feel on the outside, every time he puts his hand on my belly she stops moving completely. Like last night, she was in there doing karate or something and the moment DH put his hand on my belly she was completely still. Anyway, you are getting into the territory where you'll definitely be able to feel your bub move soon (barring anterior placenta... I don't know how much that affects things) and if you are active s/he (gender is not in your signature so I can't remember for sure on what you are having though I think I remember you saying girl) may be kicking but just not hard enough to be felt while you are active. Also, baby tends to sleep when Mom is active as it's kinda like they are being rocked in there so baby may be up and active at night while you sleep. Or you may just have a more chill baby. This bean has been a mover and shaker since the beginning so she is pretty active but some babies tend to be less active than others. Kinda like at a pool... some people like to swim around and have a good time, some just want to hang out, maybe float around and just enjoy the relaxation. Same deal with our beans.

My placenta is def posterior, so it's not the placenta. It may just be that this baby is quieter. And given its baby number four, that can't be a bad thing. And yeah I think from the nub that we are having a girl, but we are team green.


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[Bella29]

For reference- this is my son around that time frame. Does he look like he needs to go on a diet to any of you?

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Um, not even slightly!


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[Bella29]

I hear ya..I've had incredible birth experiences and c-sections scare the crap out of me but I know that if mine or the baby's health was any way at risk..it would be a no brainer.

Are you having a vbac lala? I've had one c/s and two homebirths since then. Same as you tho, I'd do whatever it took to have a healthy baby, like any mum would I think. We are all just different in the way we assess risk and what we think is risky etc. but that's cool, we all have to live with our choices and no one else's so I support every mother to make the choices for her and her family. I probably write the last as a caveat, because people are often critical of women who homebirth after a c/s and so that's me being a tad defensive of my choices which I know are different to a lot of other women. It's all good tho.


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[twointow83]

Are you having a vbac lala? I've had one c/s and two homebirths since then. Same as you tho, I'd do whatever it took to have a healthy baby, like any mum would I think. We are all just different in the way we assess risk and what we think is risky etc. but that's cool, we all have to live with our choices and no one else's so I support every mother to make the choices for her and her family. I probably write the last as a caveat, because people are often critical of women who homebirth after a c/s and so that's me being a tad defensive of my choices which I know are different to a lot of other women. It's all good tho.


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I was actually planning a hbac after my first, even found a midwife dispite the fact it was illegal in the state I lived in. Then we moved and I got preg (finally! ) and nearest midwife was over an hour away. So, no judgement from me. But you are right... there is a strong stigma.

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[Bella29]

I just feel for you two that you don't have a choice. I'm all for women choosing a c/s for their own health, for their babies health, whatever. But I object to hospitals removing choice from women. It's not their uterus which has to be cut and they don't consider the long term risks associated with placenta acreta and increta that is killing so many mums these days because of multiple c/s.

My stand on it, is if it's your body, you get to choose. That's pretty much my stand on everything to do with women's bodies, reproduction. Your body, your choice. Don't have a vagina or uterus, stop commenting on reproductive rights etc. and if it's not your body, you don't get to choose what happens to it.


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[lala22]

I just feel for you two that you don't have a choice. I'm all for women choosing a c/s for their own health, for their babies health, whatever. But I object to hospitals removing choice from women. It's not their uterus which has to be cut and they don't consider the long term risks associated with placenta acreta and increta that is killing so many mums these days because of multiple c/s.

My stand on it, is if it's your body, you get to choose. That's pretty much my stand on everything to do with women's bodies, reproduction. Your body, your choice. Don't have a vagina or uterus, stop commenting on reproductive rights etc. and if it's not your body, you don't get to choose what happens to it.


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I wholeheartedly agree with this. I have never had a c-section. I've been very lucky in that I've given birth naturally at a birth center both times with no medical interventions and like I said, if I'm being honest. the medical intervention scares me quite a bit so as usual I am hoping for a fast, easy uncomplicated labor and delivery and a healthy baby!

[Blue Bear]

Happy Mother's Day to you ladies! Have a beautiful day!

[lala22]

Happy Mother's day everyone!

[BunnyGirl19]

I have yet to receive acknowledgement of it from my husband, not even a card, and I've been cleaning up the house by myself so our mothers can come over for dinner tonight. The kids are whining and driving me nuts. DH is watching youtube videos. I think it should be perfectly acceptable for me to whack him upside the head with something. LOL

[Bella29]

Totally acceptable BG! Omg, men are so thick sometimes! Mind you, I can't complain. Dh got up early on a late shift day, which is usually saved for his sleep ins and made me a cooked breakfast in bed at 9, so I had a nice sleep in. He kept the kids at the table and let me eat in bed alone before the little darlings gave me all their hand made gifts. Was lovely. He left for work after that, so that was less fun, but it was a nice family morning for me.


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[girliedreamz]

Whack away, BG! Good grief!

I told my dh that no way was mom-in-law coming over today. lol! I love her, but it's always a big production cleaning before, catering to her while she's here, and cleaning up her mess afterward. Plus, she's so much easier to deal with if I can have a glass (or three) of wine, which I'm not touching for a few more months. lol! I demanded my day today. :)

Happy Mother's Day to all of you lovely moms!

[girliedreamz]

Anyone else here have a rough road with nursing (or any other infant parenting topic) that you are hoping doesn't repeat this time?
Oh, me too! My first was a champion nurser and super easy. Went until I cut him off at around 14 months. Second was pretty good, too, though he became a biter as soon as his teeth were in, so he was cut off a 6 months. My 3rd... horrible! He would cry whenever I tried to feed him, and then would I cry, and every feeding session ended in tears for us both. I never could figure out what was wrong—something about the whole process just wasn't working for him. We tried everything and had all kinds of consultants try to help, but it just got worse. The more we tried, the more he cried. Finally, we just switched to a bottle and formula, and he was fine. I felt terrible—he was only 2 months then and I felt like a failure for not going the "recommended" 12 months. But I gained SO much empathy for women who just can't breastfeed their kids for one reason or another.

[BunnyGirl19]

I woke up at 7:00 and made my own breakfast. The kids were up between 9:00-9:30 and I fed them, then started cleaning. DH got up at 11:00, probably only because the kids started using him as a trampoline. Most occasions I wake up to flowers, or receive them shortly after he gets up, and a card at minimum. The only thing DH has done today is put the ham in the oven and now he's outside washing his Denali and adjusting the sprinklers. He'd better have a damn good present for me tonight if he's going to be this much of a butt today.

[twointow83]

Hugs. DH isn't much for making days special either. I am at home cleaning today. Just another day around here.

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[BunnyGirl19]

Well, I got two cards from my oldest two from their preschool in my stack of mail. Still nothing from DH. I should make him sleep outside......and then turn the sprinklers on him for my own amusement. Most annoying is that a few days ago he asked me what I wanted. I guess because I didn't tell him something specific down to store, aisle, price, etc., he couldn't think of anything on his own and didn't bother. Well, Father's Day is coming up and that can go both ways. :)

[Throwaway_panther]

Gagirl do you mind if I ask how old you and your husband are? Quinn - I noticed in your profile that your DH is 45 - mine was almost 41 when we conceived our second DD in January. Just wondering how much that factors in. Quinn - I've followed some of your posts after you found out and have had the same heartbreak as you. It isn't as intense a month later but I still get sad thinking I will likely never have a son. Plus, I'm sure some of you ladies that have GD - just hearing someone is pregnant it's easy to assume right away that they are going to have your desired sex.

It just seems like we are girl makers as well - I felt like I followed the HE diet to almost a T. I wish I wouldn't have gained so much weight and lifted weights (was doing pilates instead). Gagirl and Quinn - I hear you on people's comments. They've already started - the best was one of my clients saying when I told her I was having a second daughter "That is so boring." Then she added "I hate girls." Needless to say you can kind of guess her personality. She has two teenage daughters and two sons that came later on. Another friend told me today that since my DH and his brother have girls that "isn't it ironic that they are having girls" or something to that nature. Whatever.... (and she has two sons).

Thanks for sharing on here ladies. Seems like a lot of us are getting girls overall!! Did you see from 2015 that the rate of success for boys is 57% so far? So I guess we aren't in the huge minority. Seems like the success rate had been so high in the past for boy sways - and it seemed like it was so much easier to get boys - but with our group it's looking like the opposite!
This is making me so incredibly nervous for my sway :(

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[Blue Bear]

This is making me so incredibly nervous for my sway :(

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I know panther... But you should be fine. Feel free to message me for some tips I've picked up from all of this. Atomic said 0% if you never try so a lot of us gave it a shot but wasn't meant to be. Best of luck if I don't here from you!

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[Gagirl0221]

I know panther... But you should be fine. Feel free to message me for some tips I've picked up from all of this. Atomic said 0% if you never try so a lot of us gave it a shot but wasn't meant to be. Best of luck if I don't here from you!

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Blue Bear I swayed 4 moths for a boy. I believe everyone gets what GOD has planned. The only thing I would suggest to you is wait as long as you can to try for the boy. I may be wrong but I think Attomic says you have a better chance after not long having a child than getting pregnant not long after. Ask Attomic about that. My lil girl is 20 months now I'm 16 weeks pregnant and it's another girl. Not to scare you but I pray you will get the gender you desire. If not your lil girl will love having a sister.

[Blue Bear]

Blue Bear I swayed 4 moths for a boy. I believe everyone gets what GOD has planned. The only thing I would suggest to you is wait as long as you can to try for the boy. I may be wrong but I think Attomic says you have a better chance after not long having a child than getting pregnant not long after. Ask Attomic about that. My lil girl is 20 months now I'm 16 weeks pregnant and it's another girl. Not to scare you but I pray you will get the gender you desire. If not your lil girl will love having a sister.
Hi gagirl. We are having a girl as well. No worries. I'm okay with it... Was just trying to give a bit of advice of things I would do differently to panther. Yes... Ultimately God's plan for sure! I'm not sure what you were saying... Did you mean to say to start sooner or wait longer after your last?

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[Throwaway_panther]

I'm not religious, so leaving it up to a higher power isn't my bag. But thank you guys -- I've definitely talked with atomic and others about spacing.

I guess we'll see how things go once I'm fertile again. Hoping my early HE start during pregnancy has helped :/

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[Gagirl0221]

Hi gagirl. We are having a girl as well. No worries. I'm okay with it... Was just trying to give a bit of advice of things I would do differently to panther. Yes... Ultimately God's plan for sure! I'm not sure what you were saying... Did you mean to say to start sooner or wait longer after your last?

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Blue Bear oh ok! Yes if I did it all again I would wait lil longer. You would think though 19 months would be ok after my last.

Throwaway Panther I wish you all the luck on a lil boy. I hope you get your Gd.

[twointow83]

Hey two, did your bubs get checked for tongue ties and lip ties? It can cause a fair few of the issues you are describing and it is a commonly missed issue. I hope you have an easier breastfeeding journey this time.


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My oldest has NO known issues orally. My youngest never had any official diagnosed issues and he was checked over due to speech delay (turned out to be a brain cyst) but did have a rather deep pallet... like REALLY deep. But by the time we discovered that he hadn't been nursing for some time.

[twointow83]

First of many anatomy ultrasounds today! I'll get another around 24 weeks from my high risk specialist and one from my reg OB around 28 weeks. Then I'll get another ultrasound around 36 weeks from both offices as a last minute check on baby. So hard to believe I am almost halfway to the finish line! AND I'm just days away from surprising my Grandma!!! I'm so nervous about this ultrasound today... as of last night she still had a heartbeat and going to check again before I leave for my appt. Just praying that they say everything is perfect with her. Also praying they will confirm gender and check my cervix and say it's still long and thick as my OB said if they do and it is then we can FINALLY get off pelvic rest! SOOOO hard to behave yourself when you have the libido of a teenage boy lol. It'd be nice if we could be intimate without the fear and guilt afterward. I guess I have a lot riding on this ultrasound... praying everything goes well!

[Blue Bear]

Blue Bear oh ok! Yes if I did it all again I would wait lil longer. You would think though 19 months would be ok after my last.

Throwaway Panther I wish you all the luck on a lil boy. I hope you get your Gd.
Interesting because I think if we try again I would wait until my 2nd dd is a year or so. She ended up being 2 1/2 this time because I was stuck on shettles and had two miscarriages. I was on the he diet way too long and was 20 pounds over my ideal weight. Plus my dh would be 42 when dd2 is 1. Who knows... Will have to do some thinking and praying bc I would want to be happy having a 3rd dd if we try after. I had gd for a month this time and really don't want to go through that again. I can see why team green is appealing now.

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[twointow83]

Cervix is perfect so no more pelvic rest! Yay! Couldn't get all angles of the spine so I have to go back in 4 weeks to try again, but everything we saw looked perfect. Gender confirmed and she spent nearly the entire ultrasound sucking on the fingers of both hands! It was precious!!http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160511/90545d2b9c56dd36e29a7aa4df592ff7.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160511/c71122b1071ec0465dac0d8a3d7a4cf5.jpg

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[girliedreamz]

Yay! So glad to hear all is well. So cute with the fingers. :)

[Bella29]

How cute are those little fingers! Hello baby!


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[TaytumJ]

I've been stalking for an update today Two! So glad things went well! [emoji171]


Successful blue sway in May of 2016! Thanks so much Gender Dreaming! [emoji170]

[twointow83]

I've been stalking for an update today Two! So glad things went well! [emoji171]


Successful blue sway in May of 2016! Thanks so much Gender Dreaming! [emoji170]
Have u had your baby? I see u had/r having a boy!

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[TaytumJ]

Have u had your baby? I see u had/r having a boy!

[emoji120] for a healthy [emoji304] [emoji703] We're having a girl! [emoji166][emoji156]
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I did!! We were team green the whole time and he was born May 2nd! [emoji4]

[twointow83]

I did!! We were team green the whole time and he was born May 2nd! [emoji4]
Awwww! Can I see a pic??

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[Bella29]

I did!! We were team green the whole time and he was born May 2nd! [emoji4]

That's wonderful! Congratulations!


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[TaytumJ]

I'll see if I have a good one that shows his hair!

[twointow83]

I'll see if I have a good one that shows his hair!
I'll have to look when I get home. My phone won't let me see your PM :(

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[BunnyGirl19]

I think my twins are going to end up tiny. Dalton was measured at 43rd percentile for size and Ophelia was 27th percentile (he measures 8 days bigger than her). He is 1 lb 6 oz and she is 1 lb 1 oz. Growth starts slowing down once you hit the third trimester so I expect their percentiles to drop further. She is head down now. His placenta previa has moved out of the way, but he's still butt down. He needs to be head down for vaginal delivery to be an option.

[twointow83]

I think my twins are going to end up tiny. Dalton was measured at 43rd percentile for size and Ophelia was 27th percentile (he measures 8 days bigger than her). He is 1 lb 6 oz and she is 1 lb 1 oz. Growth starts slowing down once you hit the third trimester so I expect their percentiles to drop further. She is head down now. His placenta previa has moved out of the way, but he's still butt down. He needs to be head down for vaginal delivery to be an option.

Not down playing your concern, but aren't twins typically pretty small compared to singletons? I'm sure those percentages are based off singletons. I hope everything works out with him flipping and the babies gaining weight :)

[lala22]

Two! So happy to see some ultrasounds....I hate only seeing the baby twice...and since I'm not feeling much I would love some photos. My anatomy scan is a week from Friday and I'm getting super excited!

[BunnyGirl19]

Not down playing your concern, but aren't twins typically pretty small compared to singletons? I'm sure those percentages are based off singletons. I hope everything works out with him flipping and the babies gaining weight :)

I'm not specifically concerned about their size and expect them to be a little smaller. It was more just an observation since my others measured around the 75th percentile. Twins typically measure the same as singletons up to the third trimester and then drop off in weight gain for pretty much all twins and also in height for about half of twins. Their measurements did remind me I still need to get some preemie clothes. Everywhere seems to be out and I'm mostly looking for cotton footies and one-pieces. I'm sure they'll start having some again though. The stores near me are clearancing out stuff and just now starting to add in new stuff this week. I haven't really looked online yet. I'm considering making a few snap shirts for the NICU though. I did that for DS3 when he was born at 30 weeks. It made me feel better about him being so tiny and stuck in the hospital for so long.

[Bella29]

Fingers crossed that he flips for you BG. He still has plenty of time. And I hope that you find some tiny baby clothes that you like when the stores restock, although making your own sounds like fun too. Remember as well how unreliable u/s is. It can be out by 20% either way and is notoriously unreliable for estimating a babies weight. They might be a bit bigger than they are letting on at this stage.


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[twointow83]

Two! So happy to see some ultrasounds....I hate only seeing the baby twice...and since I'm not feeling much I would love some photos. My anatomy scan is a week from Friday and I'm getting super excited!

Multiple ultrasounds is one of the few perks of being high risk. I can't wait to see some pics from your scan!!! Please share!!

[twointow83]

I'm not specifically concerned about their size and expect them to be a little smaller. It was more just an observation since my others measured around the 75th percentile. Twins typically measure the same as singletons up to the third trimester and then drop off in weight gain for pretty much all twins and also in height for about half of twins. Their measurements did remind me I still need to get some preemie clothes. Everywhere seems to be out and I'm mostly looking for cotton footies and one-pieces. I'm sure they'll start having some again though. The stores near me are clearancing out stuff and just now starting to add in new stuff this week. I haven't really looked online yet. I'm considering making a few snap shirts for the NICU though. I did that for DS3 when he was born at 30 weeks. It made me feel better about him being so tiny and stuck in the hospital for so long.

Got ya! Are they planning bed rest or anything given twins with a history of preterm birth?

[BunnyGirl19]

Nothing planned unless I have problems indicating a need for it. My PTL has been attributed to my blood clotting disorder so bedrest and things like that won't make a difference. I am on progesterone injections this time though, since it relaxes and the uterus and will cut down on BH.

[BunnyGirl19]

I found some preemie cotton sleepers online last night and ordered them for the twins. Now when they get here I need to embroider name tags to sew in for their NICU stay. I'm finally starting to feel more prepared.

[Bella29]

Fingers crossed that it is a mere formality and they are big healthy and strong for you.


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[Bella29]

How is everyone going today? I've popped! 18 weeks and def popped in the last week. Bubs is starting to move a fair bit more too. It's lovely.

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[BunnyGirl19]

I got my Upsie Belly belly today and my bump feels so much lighter. I wish I would have gotten one a few weeks ago.
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[Bella29]

Oh nice one BG.


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[twointow83]

Well, I'm home from vaca! The surprise went great, not exactly as expected but quite amusing. I had to cover my ever expanding belly or she would have known right off. Anyway, as I've described before we had a gift bag put together with 2 shirts in it. One just said "I'm the crazy Memaw everyone warned you about" and beneath that one was another that said "Shhhh! This lady is going to be a great-memaw... again! Oct 2016". Last minute I decided to throw in a couple u/s pics on the bottom. One was of Baby J sucking on her hand and one was the one showing gender. Well, She read the first shirt and put it aside to look at the second, read it aloud and put it to the side just like the first... we weren't sure if she "got it" or not. So, I said "there is more in there!" She reached in and grabbed the pics looked at them and then with a stunned expression said "You're pregnant?!?!" Everyone in on the surprise laughed and I asked if she didn't catch it from the t-shirt and she said "NO! I have so many I thought it was just for them!" Then "Oh my Lord... How far are you??" I should have said 19 weeks since I turned 19 weeks the next day, but I told her 18 weeks because I wasn't thinking. Then I pointed out the gender one and she read it and said "it is???!!!... Child you better take care of yourself!!" (referring to not doing anything I'm not supposed to while pregnant) and told my aunt/her sister (after she asked what we were having) "A GIRL!!! They're having a GIRL!!" She is thrilled :)

Hubby was so eager to tell the world that AS SOON AS we finished the surprise for my grandma he started trying to decide what/how to post on FB, lol. So now EVERYBODY knows! It's nice to finally not have to watch what I say or how I say it :)

[twointow83]

I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a bit now.... Anyone else having trouble both sleeping & sleeping on the left side (supposed to be better for baby)? I have to take Benadryl (docs says this is fine) to get to sleep at all or I'm up until dawn. Then after I'm asleep I have a heck of a time STAYING asleep and tend to wake wake every hour starting about 4 hours after I took the Benadryl then I have to try to get back to sleep over and over... and it's not because I have to use the restroom... I just wake up for no reason at all. On top of that I have a hard time staying on my left side and tend to roll over to my back (which I have never done... I am not a back sleeper) or less frequently my right side (which are known to cause pressure on the vena cava and interrupt circulation in the 2nd & 3rd trimesters). I already use a body pillow so I am not sure what I can do to get my body to cooperate as I *think* the multiple wakings might have something to do with rolling over as I am always on my back or right side when I wake up so fixing one might allow me to sleep through the night... minus restroom runs.

Any of you have this issue? Have you found anything that works? I'd do just about anything for a good night's sleep at this point :/

[BunnyGirl19]

You could always try the tennis ball trick like they use for sleep apnea. Put a tennis ball or two in a sock and safety pin it to the back of your shirt. That way you can't/won't roll over because it will be difficult to and painful.

[twointow83]

You could always try the tennis ball trick like they use for sleep apnea. Put a tennis ball or two in a sock and safety pin it to the back of your shirt. That way you can't/won't roll over because it will be difficult to and painful.
That's a thought... I tried a pillow behind my back again last night and as always it ended up on the floor. Would that trick work with a very loose fitting nightgown? I can't stand pants on my tummy at night.

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[Bella29]

I don't have that problem two, but after screwing up my back only laying on my side for my first pregnancy from 20 weeks to 42 weeks, I just sleep where I'm comfortable now. I go to sleep however makes it easiest to sleep and move as I please. Are you waking up stressed about which position you are in and worrying about it?


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

[twointow83]

I don't have that problem two, but after screwing up my back only laying on my side for my first pregnancy from 20 weeks to 42 weeks, I just sleep where I'm comfortable now. I go to sleep however makes it easiest to sleep and move as I please. Are you waking up stressed about which position you are in and worrying about it?


Two girls and one boy, due October 16
Not so much stressed as annoyed. I want to sleep on my left... or at least my right ( not as good as left but better than the back) but my body keeps pulling me to my back. Not so much an issue yet but before long I will be huge and it will be a bigger problem. I have breathing issues as well if I sleep on my back late in pregnancy. Nothing severe, just hard to breathe.

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[girliedreamz]

I have a question I've been wanting to ask for a bit now.... Anyone else having trouble both sleeping & sleeping on the left side (supposed to be better for baby)? I have to take Benadryl (docs says this is fine) to get to sleep at all or I'm up until dawn. Then after I'm asleep I have a heck of a time STAYING asleep and tend to wake wake every hour starting about 4 hours after I took the Benadryl then I have to try to get back to sleep over and over... and it's not because I have to use the restroom... I just wake up for no reason at all. On top of that I have a hard time staying on my left side and tend to roll over to my back (which I have never done... I am not a back sleeper) or less frequently my right side (which are known to cause pressure on the vena cava and interrupt circulation in the 2nd & 3rd trimesters). I already use a body pillow so I am not sure what I can do to get my body to cooperate as I *think* the multiple wakings might have something to do with rolling over as I am always on my back or right side when I wake up so fixing one might allow me to sleep through the night... minus restroom runs.

Any of you have this issue? Have you found anything that works? I'd do just about anything for a good night's sleep at this point :/

I usually take a Benadryl to get to sleep too. Sometimes taking Magnesium helps me. Especially if I wake up in the night! I use this stuff:
Amazon.com: Bluebonnet Albion Chelated Buffered Magnesium 200 mg, 120 Vegetarian Capsules, 120 Count: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/Bluebonnet-Chelated-Buffered-Magnesium-Vegetarian/dp/B002TU58QA?ie=UTF8&keywords=magnesium&qid=1463610640&ref_=sr_ph_1_s_it&sr=sr-1)

It's actually works rally well for me. The only issue is it can have a slight laxative effect if you take too much. Though, during pregnancy, I welcome that! :)

I usually sleep on my right side—never had any problems. I have been laying on my back a bit lately as I totally threw my back out this week (whole other rant!), but I find it kinda hard to breath after a while.

[girliedreamz]

Warning, rant ahead...
While clearing out the closets in order to find some corner of our stuffed house to fit baby's things, I threw my back out this weekend. Like, really out! I couldn't move without pain...and even sitting still was painful. I'm still recovering but at last I can shuffle/waddle a little and sit at the computer for a few min without crying now. Ugh. I've always had back problems but never this bad. Of course now I'm SO far behind at work and the house is a mess and all my kids have eaten for days is fast food. I've been loopy as all heck on codeine that my midwife prescribed for the last three days, and now I just feel sick from taking it. I've lost weight too. Ha! Almost back down to my pre-pregnancy weight again. I love babies...but I really hate the growing them part. I just keep telling myself, halfway there, halfway there, halfway there...

[twointow83]

I usually take a Benadryl to get to sleep too. Sometimes taking Magnesium helps me. Especially if I wake up in the night! I use this stuff:
Amazon.com: Bluebonnet Albion Chelated Buffered Magnesium 200 mg, 120 Vegetarian Capsules, 120 Count: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/Bluebonnet-Chelated-Buffered-Magnesium-Vegetarian/dp/B002TU58QA?ie=UTF8&keywords=magnesium&qid=1463610640&ref_=sr_ph_1_s_it&sr=sr-1)

It's actually works rally well for me. The only issue is it can have a slight laxative effect if you take too much. Though, during pregnancy, I welcome that! :)

I usually sleep on my right side—never had any problems. I have been laying on my back a bit lately as I totally threw my back out this week (whole other rant!), but I find it kinda hard to breath after a while.

I'll have to ask my doc about that. I get you on the back sleeping thing. DH told me today that I've been snoring (on my back) so I know the breathing issues are just around the corner... all the more reason to get this figured out now. Sorry about your back :( I've thrown my back out several times and it's ZERO fun. The muscle spasms alone are killer! I am 19 weeks 2 days and my second tri has been a lot rougher on me this time around also. I normally LOVE the 2nd tri because of the lack of discomforts (or at least they are limited) joined with the fun part of feeling baby move and the 3D/4D ultrasound, etc. but this time not so much... I'm having contractions (uterine irritability) something awful today... had one that was so bad it made my physically sick, I'm not sleeping well, every single joint in my body aches, etc. I dread my 3rd tri because I keep assuming it's only going to get worse. BUT I just keep reminding myself that when it's all said and done and she is safe in my arms that every single ache, pain & discomfort will be 100% worth it.... and I'll never have to do it again lol ;) We are half way there, we can make it. It's just our princesses letting us know that we cater to them so we don't get any illusions that WE are the bosses, hahahaha ;)

[Laurenk1424]

Hi everyone! Just wanted to say I know I've been silent a few weeks but everything is okay over here [emoji4].
We find out gender in 4 days and I took a step back to let the time go by faster. I'm so sad that my hope may be coming to an end soon. I've noticed my bump seems low so I'm sure this is a boy. I never thought an ultrasound appointment would be so scary. I'm so nervous of my reaction to a let down.... It's been such a rollercoaster. One week I'm so hopeful and know it's a girl and then I talk myself down.... I guess it'll be good to finally know. Although I'm so scared to be devastated, as this is most likely our last baby.


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[BunnyGirl19]

I just counted. There are only 77 days left until I hit my max of 36 weeks. I feel so unprepared!!!!

[twointow83]

I just counted. There are only 77 days left until I hit my max of 36 weeks. I feel so unprepared!!!!
Wow... when u put it like that I can see why u would feel a bit rushed!!

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[BunnyGirl19]

DH still insists there is plenty of time and I don't need to buy anything yet. Seriously?!!! He doesn't think I need to buy anything anyway since we aren't planning anymore kids. I still need some miscellaneous clothes, new bottles for both, a second port-a-crib, a second infant car seat, etc. I'm most annoyed that he is telling me not to buy the double stroller the infant seats snap into (and actually sit securely and correctly), and also not to buy the twin baby carrier so I can wear them both. I'm not sure how he expects me to lug them everywhere for months when they are teeny and floppy and can't fit properly into a normal stroller or whatever. I'm most likely going to be having a c-section and they'll be preemies, which means tons of extra appointments for the first few months. He's only thinking of the money because he's not the one that has to deal with it.

[lala22]

My goodness ladies it's been forever! It sounds like we're all stressed and uncomfortable..I know I am. Lol. Stressed that is...I'm actually feel decent except am feeling so much pressure and discomfort at the top of my uterus?! So weird...like it feels like she's balled up on top almost. And I still rarely feel strong movement which is a bummer.

Two, I sleep pretty well but always wake on my back which I never ever do..so strange. Sorry you have to take something to sleep- that would probably stress me out in of itself. Lol. Have you tried reading right before bed to get sleepy?

[crd5ed]

I've been catching up and meaning to post. The past 2 mo this have been so crazy and overwhelming, never in my life would I suggest moving while pregnant, remodeling a kitchen, with 2 kids to care for and during the school year. It has been so hard. :( And to top it off my husband was finishing up another degree so I didn't have a lot of help with packing, unpacking, meeting with contractors, picking out everything. Never again. Ever. So incredibly stressful and not worth it in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm anxious about my ultrasound bc I've only gained 4lbs above my pre-pregnant weight (but I lost 10lbs and I e gained that back so that counts too, right?). Everyone keeps commenting on how small I look for how far along I am and questioning if everything with the baby is ok. Which only makes me worry more and have anxiety about something being wrong. I still get nauseous from time to time and have plenty of other pregnancy symptoms but I'm guessing that plenty of people thought everything was fine until they found out it wasn't. My next scan isn't until June 6th due to scheduling conflicts with my doctors office so I have a bit of a wait to be sure all is well.

I'm so glad everyone seems to be doing well except for the usual pregnancy issues. I too feel like I can't breathe sleeping on my back but having been waking up finding myself in that position. I can't sleep for crap either bc my 3 year old isn't sleeping well either (I think it's bc of our move). Hoping everyone gets some well deserved rest and a break from back pain, hubbies who don't understand, and the hard work of being pregnant with other children to care for!! I've missed you ladies and it's so nice to continue to read about everyone's journey. [emoji4]


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[twointow83]

DH still insists there is plenty of time and I don't need to buy anything yet. Seriously?!!! He doesn't think I need to buy anything anyway since we aren't planning anymore kids. I still need some miscellaneous clothes, new bottles for both, a second port-a-crib, a second infant car seat, etc. I'm most annoyed that he is telling me not to buy the double stroller the infant seats snap into (and actually sit securely and correctly), and also not to buy the twin baby carrier so I can wear them both. I'm not sure how he expects me to lug them everywhere for months when they are teeny and floppy and can't fit properly into a normal stroller or whatever. I'm most likely going to be having a c-section and they'll be preemies, which means tons of extra appointments for the first few months. He's only thinking of the money because he's not the one that has to deal with it.

I completely understand! I am the frugal one of the two of us an d DH is the one that likes to spend, spend, spend and I am the planner and DH is the go-with-the-flow type. DH is supposed to be pulling overtime so we can get some of the bigger things we have our eyes on but is being stubborn about it. He keeps saying we have plenty of time. Which, honestly, we do have about 4 months left but I HATE putting things off till the last and I have a feeling he is waiting until I get my student aid/loan refund but I won't get that until mid-late September and I'll likely be delivering on Sept 30th. I brought it up last night and his response was "I can do it" (in other words practically confirming that is what he's waiting for and that he can get it all set up in just a few days). It drives me nuts to wait that long and be unprepared. Once nesting hits I am really going to be a mess wanting to get everything ready and having nothing to get ready. I had planned on waiting until then for some of the "wants" that can be a bit pricey, like a rocking chair, but not for the crib and stuff. We still have 4 months and because of him being stubborn I already feel rushed :/ So, yeah, I get it and it completely sucks :( Hopefully both our DH's will wake up and smell the baby shampoo sooner than later.

[twointow83]

My goodness ladies it's been forever! It sounds like we're all stressed and uncomfortable..I know I am. Lol. Stressed that is...I'm actually feel decent except am feeling so much pressure and discomfort at the top of my uterus?! So weird...like it feels like she's balled up on top almost. And I still rarely feel strong movement which is a bummer.

Two, I sleep pretty well but always wake on my back which I never ever do..so strange. Sorry you have to take something to sleep- that would probably stress me out in of itself. Lol. Have you tried reading right before bed to get sleepy?

Baby J does that a lot too(balling up... and usually RIGHT behind my belly button which makes it not too pleasant)... that mixed with the contractions makes for an uncomfortable Mommy lol. Baby J isn't a strong mover either. She moves plenty but rarely strong enough to be felt from the outside... until yesterday at least. She was moving pretty good yesterday for some reason (my guess is it had something to do with the million contractions I had yesterday as she tends to react to pressure) and DH finally got to feel her ninja practice lol. Babies kinda move at their own pace at this point since movement is voluntary at this point for them. My guess is you are having a really chill baby who spends a lot of time in their sucking their thumb or something rather than doing acrobatics ;)

Reading before bed is the LAST thing I want to do lol. I suffer from insomnia even when not preg due to my brain refusing to shut down at night. I can be fall out tired and the moment I lay down I'll be wide awake. Reading only encourages that brain activity so I don't read anything at least an hour before bed. For some reason I sleep better during the day (preg or not) but can't really sleep all day. On school days I can get a couple hours nap in but have to limit myself or even the pills won't knock me out and I don't want to get my days and nights mixed up. I gave in and tried sleeping on my right side last night and slept a little better which makes me wonder if rolling over to my back is my body's way of trying to get to my right side BUT I am soooooo much more sore this AM than usual. I feel like I slept in a crappy hotel bed or something. I want to take a nice hot, steaming bath to loosen my muscles so bad but, as you know, that is a no-no during preg :/ I just don't get it. I EXPECT a lack of sleep in the 3rd tri because of discomfort and baby kicking all night but never had this much trouble sleeping this soon in preg. :confused:

[Bella29]

I've been catching up and meaning to post. The past 2 mo this have been so crazy and overwhelming, never in my life would I suggest moving while pregnant, remodeling a kitchen, with 2 kids to care for and during the school year. It has been so hard. :( And to top it off my husband was finishing up another degree so I didn't have a lot of help with packing, unpacking, meeting with contractors, picking out everything. Never again. Ever. So incredibly stressful and not worth it in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm anxious about my ultrasound bc I've only gained 4lbs above my pre-pregnant weight (but I lost 10lbs and I e gained that back so that counts too, right?). Everyone keeps commenting on how small I look for how far along I am and questioning if everything with the baby is ok. Which only makes me worry more and have anxiety about something being wrong. I still get nauseous from time to time and have plenty of other pregnancy symptoms but I'm guessing that plenty of people thought everything was fine until they found out it wasn't. My next scan isn't until June 6th due to scheduling conflicts with my doctors office so I have a bit of a wait to be sure all is well.

I'm so glad everyone seems to be doing well except for the usual pregnancy issues. I too feel like I can't breathe sleeping on my back but having been waking up finding myself in that position. I can't sleep for crap either bc my 3 year old isn't sleeping well either (I think it's bc of our move). Hoping everyone gets some well deserved rest and a break from back pain, hubbies who don't understand, and the hard work of being pregnant with other children to care for!! I've missed you ladies and it's so nice to continue to read about everyone's journey. [emoji4]


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Crd, if it makes you feel better, I am still 1.5kg lower than my pre regnant weight. My fundal height is high tho and I look pregnant, but my weight is lower cos I lost heaps whilst I was sick. It's not worrying me at all. I am getting an u/s for my morphology on Monday. Good luck for yours. Ignore what people say about how you are carrying. Some women I know carry massive, some carry tiny. A friend of mine was the same size at term as I am now. She barely ever looked pregnant. I just think that it isn't helpful to compare because we are all different.


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

[twointow83]

I've been catching up and meaning to post. The past 2 mo this have been so crazy and overwhelming, never in my life would I suggest moving while pregnant, remodeling a kitchen, with 2 kids to care for and during the school year. It has been so hard. :( And to top it off my husband was finishing up another degree so I didn't have a lot of help with packing, unpacking, meeting with contractors, picking out everything. Never again. Ever. So incredibly stressful and not worth it in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm anxious about my ultrasound bc I've only gained 4lbs above my pre-pregnant weight (but I lost 10lbs and I e gained that back so that counts too, right?). Everyone keeps commenting on how small I look for how far along I am and questioning if everything with the baby is ok. Which only makes me worry more and have anxiety about something being wrong. I still get nauseous from time to time and have plenty of other pregnancy symptoms but I'm guessing that plenty of people thought everything was fine until they found out it wasn't. My next scan isn't until June 6th due to scheduling conflicts with my doctors office so I have a bit of a wait to be sure all is well.

I'm so glad everyone seems to be doing well except for the usual pregnancy issues. I too feel like I can't breathe sleeping on my back but having been waking up finding myself in that position. I can't sleep for crap either bc my 3 year old isn't sleeping well either (I think it's bc of our move). Hoping everyone gets some well deserved rest and a break from back pain, hubbies who don't understand, and the hard work of being pregnant with other children to care for!! I've missed you ladies and it's so nice to continue to read about everyone's journey. [emoji4]


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Try not to worry about how big you are. 14 pound gain is a lot (yes the 10 pounds count) so baby is definitely getting what she needs :) I feel huge but still down about 12 pounds from pre-preg weight. I initially lost 17 so a 5 pound gain is a good thing in my book :)But as far as showing, there are a dozen reasons why you may not be as big as you expect, many of which have nothing to do with a problem. And, yes, I had no clue there was a problem in either of my first 2 losses. My late term loss I continued to grow for a month after he'd passed. BUT (GINORMOUS BUT) your size says nothing about the health of the baby/preg. I didn't pop until 2 weeks ago and I have always been one who got stuck in maternity pants before the first tri was even complete because nothing fit. Even now I can wear my pre-preg jeans... standing at least.. not so much sitting down, and Baby J has been perfect at every u/s so far. Is baby moving much? You could always invest in a doppler. You can't always feel them moving no a doppler can help calm your fears. I got a pretty decent sonoline doppler off ebay for like $20 so they can be gotten reasonably. I feel like ALL moms-to-be should have one. Even in a perfectly normal preg it is nice to have around just to check when baby isn't kicking as much as you'd like, just for your own peace of mind and it saves you from having to run to L&D just because baby isn't moving much and you get worried. Mine has been a God-send for my sanity! I can actually look forward to u/s more now because I always check on her with my doppler before I leave for one. I still worry they will find something wrong but at least I know they'll find a HB. It might be something that you want to look into. Sorry your toddler isn't sleeping well :( Any idea why?