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Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 10:21 PM
Hello everyone. I'm back from taking a quick break from all the swaying madness. I'm taking a very light approach to my sway this cycle. I'm just ready to be pregnant. I'm getting impatient lol. Anyways. I'm on cd8 right now. Scheduled to O cd16. Doing light supplements. But keeping up on my protein and calories. I've been doing Piyo (Pilates+yoga) and running daily and rock climbing 3 times a week.. I know- SOOO going against my boy sway.. /: working out just relieves stress and distracts me from all this stuff. But like I said I'm really working to keep my calories high and keep myself well nourished. How is everyone else doing? I haven't been following much of this feed so I'm way out of the loop lol

Magical22
January 18th, 2016, 10:34 PM
Hello everyone. I'm back from taking a quick break from all the swaying madness. I'm taking a very light approach to my sway this cycle. I'm just ready to be pregnant. I'm getting impatient lol. Anyways. I'm on cd8 right now. Scheduled to O cd16. Doing light supplements. But keeping up on my protein and calories. I've been doing Piyo (Pilates+yoga) and running daily and rock climbing 3 times a week.. I know- SOOO going against my boy sway.. /: working out just relieves stress and distracts me from all this stuff. But like I said I'm really working to keep my calories high and keep myself well nourished. How is everyone else doing? I haven't been following much of this feed so I'm way out of the loop lol

Good to see you back, take my blue dust [emoji170][emoji92][emoji170]

I'm just stalking and cheerleading at the moment.

Will have my next FET, beginning of March so will start my meds next month.



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Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 10:36 PM
What's FET?

Blue Bear
January 18th, 2016, 10:39 PM
Hi Nann3r - did you get a personalized plan from Atomic? After my mc I decided to go for it and it has been great having her answer a ton of "little" questions that come up. I was going to drop my supplements after my second mc but she said many of those things help with egg health. Anyway, keep up with the multi and your exercise doesn't sound bad - rock climbing is probably perfect since you are muscle building!!

Farmgirl - we had almost the SAME issues. This is the first month I bought the wondfros. They actually showed up for me positive longer than the clear blues - it was very strange!!! Even testing the same urine. Guess I will be doing some of each since the wondfros are so cheap on amazon - and I still like to see the smiley faces! :)

Blue Bear
January 18th, 2016, 10:40 PM
Nann3r - I did wait 1 full cycle after both miscarriages before attempting again.

tfahn
January 18th, 2016, 10:48 PM
Blue bear, can I ask after your Miscarriages, did u ovulate or get your next period first?
I had an early miscarriage this month. Bleed for 3 days then 7 days after I stopped bleeding I started again for another 3 days. It seems like it is too soon for me to think that was a real period. I am so confused in this cycle.

Blue Bear
January 18th, 2016, 11:02 PM
tfahn - okay so with my miscarriages there was of course bleeding but then I'm sure I ovulated before I had a "regular period". For the chemical at 5 1/2 weeks it was just like a heavy period for 5 days or so. However swaying blue atomic recommended I wait a cycle - I know a lot of pink swayers go for it right away. For my missed miscarriage at 9 1/2 weeks (fetus had developed to 6 weeks) I bled for 2 weeks. However, I started acupuncture right when it started because the acupuncturist said she could help my body clear itself out (or however you want to say it). So in that case I had heavy bleeding (my body thought it was still pregnant longer) for 10 days and 3 light days. I got a regular period (no spotting in between) Day 32 of my cycle (which is a little late for me). I started counting day one on fertility friend when I first started heavy bleeding (I did have a few spotting days before that). Others I've known that far along bled/spotted for months but I think the acupuncture got my body re-regulated right away. Now just hoping it can help with a sticky bean! And many prayers of course! Tfahn - I did use the clear blue opks around the time I was ovulating just to check in and see - but I wasn't actually attempting those months before a regular period.

Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 11:03 PM
Hi Nann3r - did you get a personalized plan from Atomic? After my mc I decided to go for it and it has been great having her answer a ton of "little" questions that come up. I was going to drop my supplements after my second mc but she said many of those things help with egg health. Anyway, keep up with the multi and your exercise doesn't sound bad - rock climbing is probably perfect since you are muscle building!!

Farmgirl - we had almost the SAME issues. This is the first month I bought the wondfros. They actually showed up for me positive longer than the clear blues - it was very strange!!! Even testing the same urine. Guess I will be doing some of each since the wondfros are so cheap on amazon - and I still like to see the smiley faces! :)

I have not no. It's crossed my mind. I just can't drop the money on it at the moment!

Yeah it's hard to not lose weight. Being s personal trainer it's like.. Natural for me to constantly be tying lose weight.. :( I normally eat like a bird day to day. So working out AND focusing on keeping calories high is hard work for me! I'm used to working out and then picking at little bits of food all day. It's how I've stayed smaller. And now I'm all mushy after pregnancy and I'm at my biggest! Which is good for a boy sway.. But it's driving me crazy not being able to just drop this weight! But like I said I have been losing a little weight tiny bits at a time. So I'm hopeful it won't interfere with my blue sway too much

Blue Bear
January 18th, 2016, 11:16 PM
Nann3r - I'm a personal trainer too!!! I am 15/20 lbs up from where I was a year after having my daughter. Breastfeeding and healthy eating I shed the weight fast. Training my clients I feel so big now! I've always been a light eater like you. When I got pregnant with my daughter I was at might lightest because we were going on a honeymoon 6 months after getting married - so I wasn't snacking and eating super light/healthy. I feel mushy as well - lol!! I've been on the boy diet for a year! Doesn't agree with my small frame as well. :)

tfahn
January 18th, 2016, 11:22 PM
Thanks blue bear. When I called the RE to report the new bleeding they are almost treating like a period and wanted me to start taking Clomid again starting tonight since this is the 3rd day of bleeding. I think I am going to skip the Clomid this cycle, just can't think it's a true period with the timing of the miscarriage I had. I have been using OPK and so far I haven't noticed a positive at all.

purple
January 18th, 2016, 11:24 PM
I lost weight before getting pregnant with DS1 but I was probably eating more like HE diet with 3 meals + snacks.

Are you keeping your exercise moderate? I generally exercised about 30 mins at a time when I was trying for DS1. (I didn't exercise much when trying for DS2 but I ate all day!)

Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 11:30 PM
I've been eating breakfast, morning snack, lunch, afternoon snack, dinner and night snack. I do 30-45 mins of piyo, 2-3 hours of rock climbing, then a 15-17 min run at night. I try my best to have carbs and protein in every meal AND snack. I hope it's enough!

Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 11:30 PM
The piyo and running is daily. The rock climbing is 2-3 days a week for 2-3 hours at a time

Magical22
January 18th, 2016, 11:42 PM
What's FET?

Frozen embryo transfer (IVF) I need all your pink dust [emoji5]


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Nann3r
January 18th, 2016, 11:44 PM
Frozen embryo transfer (IVF) I need all your pink dust [emoji5]


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Please have it all! Fx you get your little girl!

twointow83
January 18th, 2016, 11:52 PM
+OPK tonight.... here we go.

:fingers: and :pray: for all waiting to O and those waiting to test!

purple
January 19th, 2016, 03:34 AM
Good luck two!

I have an opk+ today but already have an attempt the other night so will leave it at that. I'm not worried about this cycle as next month I will use clomid.

Blue Bear
January 19th, 2016, 08:59 AM
Hello to you boy moms! Do you ladies drink coffee/did you drink coffee when you got pregnant with your boys? That has been one area that has been tough to cut out. I've tried to switch to tea but some days it's just not the same! :) Also, I'm in the 2ww - do you think the caffeine would hurt chances of implantation?

BTW I'm not a huge coffee drinker - maybe 1 cup/day. However, I am pretty caffeine sensitive - definitely makes me jittery if I don't eat enough.

ksmom
January 19th, 2016, 09:30 AM
Blue bear, I occasionally drank coffee before DS1 but was more of a tea drinker. I cut out caffeine the month before we conceived because I wasn't getting pregnant. Before DS2 I drank coffee every day but no more than one cup a day because I was still nursing at the time and didn't want to make my already hyper toddler more hyper.LOL I still continued to have a cup of coffee while pregnant. I think one cup a day is fine for TTC and the TWW even while swaying blue. I think it's safe to have up to 250 my per day during pregnancy which is two cups. I prefer to stick with one though but I'm just cautious.

has2gentlemen
January 19th, 2016, 11:08 AM
Blue bear- I'm not a coffee drinker at all (can't stand the smell even), and I do have two boys. I drink a lot of caffeinated soda (3-4 cans a day is normal for me).


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maidentomother
January 19th, 2016, 02:13 PM
Go two & purple! Fx for you.

Clomid last night knocked me out (I took it at 7pm), then I woke up just after midnight hot & sweaty and couldn't sleep until 4am! Today I've been freezing cold BUT it's the coldest day so far this Winter. I worry my hyper metabolism is going to make me bounce back and forth between high and low E while taking the Clomid and not work optimally...

Gagirl0221
January 19th, 2016, 02:27 PM
Do any of you guys know if I am swaying BOY! I have been taking the target brand prenatals I am about to run out. I will be attempting again at the end of next week. My prenatals I just noticed have soy in them should I switch to the women's one a day or will it matter?

Kmomofthree
January 19th, 2016, 03:47 PM
Hello to you boy moms! Do you ladies drink coffee/did you drink coffee when you got pregnant with your boys? That has been one area that has been tough to cut out. I've tried to switch to tea but some days it's just not the same! :) Also, I'm in the 2ww - do you think the caffeine would hurt chances of implantation?

BTW I'm not a huge coffee drinker - maybe 1 cup/day. However, I am pretty caffeine sensitive - definitely makes me jittery if I don't eat enough.

I've always been a big coffee drinker and I have 3 boys.

I don't know anything about caffeine effecting implantation.... I've always had 2 to 3 cups a day and have always gotten pregnant the first try. :-)

Nann3r
January 19th, 2016, 04:05 PM
Maybe I should start drinking coffee lol. I'm not a coffee person either.

farmgirl33
January 19th, 2016, 04:17 PM
Blue bear - I asked atomic about coffee as I drink 2 cups per day & she said that amount was fine for a blue sway. I was trying to cut back to 1, but really love my 2 so once atomic said 2 was ok, I didn't bother trying to cut back.

Nann - good to see you back in here. Wow, the amount of exercise you do makes me look so unfit lol. I struggle fitting my exercise in, that's why I've never exercised much before. My dh is rarely home in time to help with dinner/bath with kids. And as I do the bookwork for the business I am not that active during the day & am busy working. I do try to knock off work before its time to cook dinner to exercise though.


Gagirl - not sure sorry.

I think today is o day. Temp didn't rise this morning. We bd the last 3 nights, but haven't been able to fit any morning bd in, which is a shame, really wanted to bd this morning, but dd3 was already awake. Plan to bd again tonight.


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Nann3r
January 19th, 2016, 04:20 PM
Blue bear - I asked atomic about coffee as I drink 2 cups per day & she said that amount was fine for a blue sway. I was trying to cut back to 1, but really love my 2 so once atomic said 2 was ok, I didn't bother trying to cut back.

Nann - good to see you back in here. Wow, the amount of exercise you do makes me look so unfit lol. I struggle fitting my exercise in, that's why I've never exercised much before. My dh is rarely home in time to help with dinner/bath with kids. And as I do the bookwork for the business I am not that active during the day & am busy working. I do try to knock off work before its time to cook dinner to exercise though.


Gagirl - not sure sorry.

I think today is o day. Temp didn't rise this morning. We bd the last 3 nights, but haven't been able to fit any morning bd in, which is a shame, really wanted to bd this morning, but dd3 was already awake. Plan to bd again tonight.


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Thanks. I'm guessing it's why I had a girl first. Or one of the reasons why anyways. I'm also lucky enough to make my mom living close by and she stays at home to nanny my niece. So I have a built in babysitter for free basically. Allows me to go workout when I need to. I just need to keep my calories high and healthy with all this burning going on

purple
January 19th, 2016, 04:23 PM
I wasn't much of a coffee drinker when trying for either boy. I did drink falvoured milk with coffee in it most days but I'm not sure how much coffee they really contained, probably less than 1 instant.

I drank lots of tea, 2 to 4 cups per day.

purple
January 19th, 2016, 04:27 PM
Do any of you guys know if I am swaying BOY! I have been taking the target brand prenatals I am about to run out. I will be attempting again at the end of next week. My prenatals I just noticed have soy in them should I switch to the women's one a day or will it matter?

A women's multi might have too much vitamin A for ttc. Can you get a different prenatal brand? I'm not sure how much soy it is so maybe don't worry. Soy is in lots of foods so I know I consumed it. I also conceived DS2 taking soy isoflavones.

Gagirl0221
January 19th, 2016, 04:34 PM
Purple thank you! Atomic said that it's not enough that will hurt my sway. Hope I'm on the right track with my sway. Also my weakness is sweets should I avoid all sugar?

purple
January 19th, 2016, 04:38 PM
Maybe I should start drinking coffee lol. I'm not a coffee person either.

Probably best to stick with tea for a boy :)

purple
January 19th, 2016, 04:40 PM
Purple thank you! Atomic said that it's not enough that will hurt my sway. Hope I'm on the right track with my sway. Also my weakness is sweets should I avoid all sugar?

I'm a sugahollic so I had lots of sugar. Those flavoured milks I drank were very high in sugar and I love cake, cookies and chocolate.

ksmom
January 19th, 2016, 04:42 PM
Gagirl, I don't think you have to avoid sugar altogether. I definitely ate sweets when we conceived DS1 and DS2. I had dessert almost every night when I got pregnant with DS2. I think it's your overall diet that matters more.

Girlieplease
January 19th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Good luck ladies that are attempting tonight or the next few days, cannot wait to hear some exciting news from you all, I will be attempting again March, April this year!

maidentomother
January 19th, 2016, 05:58 PM
Gagirl, I really wouldn't worry about the trace amounts of soy in your prenatal. Sugar is fine so long as you plenty of fat & protein with it. And your body makes fat from sugar/carbs, NOT fat, and that sways blue via multiple mechanisms.

Nann, your fitness regimen is awesome! I'm in awe. I love both yoga and pilates too. I would also recommend avoiding coffee and drinking plenty of tea instead. Remember that many boys moms have so many strong blue friendly aspects going for them that they can 'afford' to do girl friendly things like drink tons of coffee, have only one attempt, take clomid etc and still get boy and after boy. But that doesn't change the fact that those tactics still sway pink.

I'm trying to get up the courage to ask a neighbour/colleague (married to a 40 year old woman with whom he has a 2 year old son, I have noromantic interest in him) if he'd be willing to be a sperm donor for me. I'm just not sure how best to broach the topic and if I should talk to him privately or invite both him and his wife to dinner or something? I'm pretty sure they had fertility struggles/took a while to conceive a THB due to her age and might not have another child, so I'm hoping they would welcome the opportunity of half siblings for their son. But I don't want to alienate anyone...suggestions? They know I have plenty of money & family etc support and I wouldn't require anything from them other than a once a year visit. If they want more involvement than that I'm totally open to that, whatever they feel comfortable with. I also love this guy's mom, she's an amazing woman and grandmother. He is her only child and I think she'd be pretty pleased...

It's soooo hard finding a good, KNOWN donor with the required/desired characteristics here when I don't speak the language as well as I'd like. I see men out in public that I would like to approach but I've yet to manage contact, especially as so often they have a wife/GF with them.

maidentomother
January 19th, 2016, 06:11 PM
LOL at sugaholic purple! My pain meds make me crave sweets, especially anything fruity, like crazy. It makes hormonal cravings (excluding pregnancy) seem mild. I have gummy candy & popsicle addictions in particul but try to eat fruit instead as much as I can. Also I'm obsessed with pound cake and madeleines.

essnce629
January 20th, 2016, 02:07 AM
Honestly Maiden, I think I would be horrified if a female colleague approached my DH about being a sperm donor, especially if she knew he was married with kids. I would be extremely offended. I think you should stick to unmarried single men or a sperm bank. I hope I don't seem too harsh, but it's how I would feel. I would be much more open if my best friend approached me about being an egg donor or a surrogate, but not after my DH's sperm.

pinkin2011
January 20th, 2016, 02:34 AM
I agree with you there Essence. I would be very upset too if someone asked my husband to be a donor. I thought they had sperm donor clinics ect??? My aunty had to use a sperm donor and had a photo ect of the donor .

Beautifulrainbow
January 20th, 2016, 02:54 AM
Hello to you boy moms! Do you ladies drink coffee/did you drink coffee when you got pregnant with your boys? That has been one area that has been tough to cut out. I've tried to switch to tea but some days it's just not the same! :) Also, I'm in the 2ww - do you think the caffeine would hurt chances of implantation?

BTW I'm not a huge coffee drinker - maybe 1 cup/day. However, I am pretty caffeine sensitive - definitely makes me jittery if I don't eat enough.





I've always been a big coffee drinker and I have 3 boys.

I don't know anything about caffeine effecting implantation.... I've always had 2 to 3 cups a day and have always gotten pregnant the first try. :-)


This is a question I wanted to ask! does coffee caffeine really sway? because with my 3 boys I didn't drink coffee at all, I used to hate it! I still don't like the taste of it need it extreamly sweet and milky, but feel like I need it just to get through the day sometimes.

If you are ment to do the opposite what you did to get boys am I ok drinking it now?

Beautifulrainbow
January 20th, 2016, 02:56 AM
Good luck two!

I have an opk+ today but already have an attempt the other night so will leave it at that. I'm not worried about this cycle as next month I will use clomid.

You just want to be my clomid buddy lol joking

BunnyGirl19
January 20th, 2016, 03:52 AM
Honestly Maiden, I think I would be horrified if a female colleague approached my DH about being a sperm donor, especially if she knew he was married with kids. I would be extremely offended. I think you should stick to unmarried single men or a sperm bank. I hope I don't seem too harsh, but it's how I would feel. I would be much more open if my best friend approached me about being an egg donor or a surrogate, but not after my DH's sperm.

I'd feel the same. I think the only situation I can see where I'd be at least somewhat okay with that was if one of his two best friends asked him to donate sperm because they had something wrong with theirs and couldn't have kids because of it. I just see it causing too many issues trying to use a known donor, especially one that is married with or without kids. It is far simpler and less complicated to just get an anonymous donor.

Beautifulrainbow
January 20th, 2016, 05:16 AM
Go two & purple! Fx for you.

Clomid last night knocked me out (I took it at 7pm), then I woke up just after midnight hot & sweaty and couldn't sleep until 4am! Today I've been freezing cold BUT it's the coldest day so far this Winter. I worry my hyper metabolism is going to make me bounce back and forth between high and low E while taking the Clomid and not work optimally...


Does having side effects mean you know clomid is working, when I took my 1st round at 50mg I did not notice any side effects and it probably didn't work as still o'd late

purple
January 20th, 2016, 05:29 AM
Does having side effects mean you know clomid is working, when I took my 1st round at 50mg I did not notice any side effects and it probably didn't work as still o'd late

Some people get hot flushes from it. I don't recall anything like this and it worked 3 times for me. Everyone just reacts a bit different.

purple
January 20th, 2016, 05:32 AM
This is a question I wanted to ask! does coffee caffeine really sway? because with my 3 boys I didn't drink coffee at all, I used to hate it! I still don't like the taste of it need it extreamly sweet and milky, but feel like I need it just to get through the day sometimes.

If you are ment to do the opposite what you did to get boys am I ok drinking it now?

Coffee is supposed to sway pink and tea sways blue. Atomic doesn't know the reasons exactly so it may not be the caffeine in coffee that sways because there is caffeine in tea too.

Obviously lots of women who drink coffee still have boys and lots that drink tea have girls (my mum is a massive tea drinker and had 2 girls) but the stats show some sway factor for each drink.

purple
January 20th, 2016, 05:38 AM
Maiden, have you been using an anonymous donor sperm at the moment? I agree with the others that is would probably be a bad idea to ask. I'm sorry it is so hard to find a known donor. My sister will also be having a baby at some point with donor sperm but she will have to get it anonymously as the close male friend she has didn't want to donate (I'm not sure the reasons). She has already been advised that the best option is to use IVF as they don't like to waste donor sperm on insemination, but it is hard to get donors in Australia because they are not allowed to be paid.

ksmom
January 20th, 2016, 08:52 AM
IMO Tea is more blue friendly because it often contains antioxidants and/or herbs. Coffee is basically devoid of nutrients making it more pink, plus I think some people use it to curb hunger which would also sway pink because that would decrease caloric intake. Coffee also tends to have more caffeine in it than tea and most people usually just have a small cup of tea versus a large cup (or 2 or 3+) of coffee which I believe to be more pink friendly since caffeine in large amounts is unhealthy. Just my two cents on the coffee vs. tea debate. :)

tfahn
January 20th, 2016, 09:27 AM
My husband is a huge caffeine drinker, a couple large cups of coffee a day, then usually a Rockstar energy drink every work day as well, then in the evening he drinks iced tea. This does not bode well for my blue sway :( But I guess you can't control everything but I don't drink caffeine at all, minus maybe one cup of RRL tea a day, so maybe I can counteract him, lol.

maidentomother
January 20th, 2016, 10:04 AM
beautifulainbow, I would not base anything on MY symptoms bc I am a freak of nature, but since many people do get symptoms on Clomid the fact that you didn't notice any may mean it had less of an effect. But even though you Oed late, maybe you wouldn't have Oed at all without the clomid? So I wouldn't necessarily assume NO effect.

I would NEVER EVER use a anonymous sperm donor. Sperm banks don't provide enough info for me - I have to meet the man in person. I was created by AI using a known donor (who WAS married with a child at the time), so I know how lucky I am to have known my bio father. I think it is extremely unethical IMO to have children without allowing them contact with their genetic parents.

When I was married I think I would have been okay with my DH giving sperm to a friend, provided I approved. But I know I don't have a 'normal' attitude, I am very difficult to offend, so unfortunately I'm not surprised to hear your opinions. I definitely don't want to offend anyone...and I appreciate the honesty. Though I really wonder if you were in my shoes, would you be happy to use anonymous sperm? Also frozen sperm is not nearly as good as fresh.

I am currently using a known donor but he is not ideal and has a genetic form of hypothyroidism. My other option is to try to pick up guys at clubs...I would have to be totally upfront which is a little awkward! I think it's worth trying, I'd be doing it already if my pain were more manageable.

Nann3r
January 20th, 2016, 10:26 AM
I'm all for using a sperm donor you know. I totally get that for sure. But it's def not going to be my husband! I think it's more appropriate to use someone single OR if you want to use a married mans sperm you talk to his wife and him, not just him. That's just my two cents! I would just struggle knowing my husband has another child with another women. All with good intention of course. No foul play. I would just struggle with the idea of that. Personally. :)

Nann3r
January 20th, 2016, 10:27 AM
Maiden I'm not talking to you btw! I'm talking to people in general :) I read my post and realized that sounded like a direct response to you and it def wasn't just to clarify! :p

maidentomother
January 20th, 2016, 10:55 AM
Totally appreciate the honesty! I would never want to make another woman feel uncomfortable. I would never want to stress a marriage. I realise people can't help how they feel so even knowing it's good intentioned doesn't necessarily help.

I really like his wife too, so I'd especially not want to upsrt her.

Nann3r
January 20th, 2016, 11:01 AM
Well I def think going that route is better than picking up guys at clubs! :) that would be really awkward. And you know little about them in such a short time ya know?

Beautifulrainbow
January 20th, 2016, 11:46 AM
Maiden you are saying your sperm doner is not ideal.. May may still end up with a child with Abnormalities. Nothing wrong with my hubby and I, but we have ended up with 3 boys with ADHD, type 1 diabetes and learning difficulties.

Quinn31
January 20th, 2016, 11:46 AM
Has anyone here used injectibles? I'm debating moving to those from clomid but they're so expensive. Clomid is $20 and they're $600 but the chances go from 8-10% to 15-20%. Af is due tomorrow and I'm feeling symptoms so getting depressed. Especially after the false hope of the cp last month.


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Kmomofthree
January 20th, 2016, 12:27 PM
I'm so annoyed. I was POSITIVE that O day was yesterday. My ewcm is gone, my cervix was high and out of reach.... by yesterday evening it lowered a little bit so I was sure it had happened. This morning... no temp spike. And my cervix is high again. I'm still having intense cramps, cm is creamy.
I'm quite annoyed that I missed my positive opk.

Anyway, what I'm worried about is that our one attempt was too much of a cut off. We dtd Sunday night.... I had ewcm and cramping. (My cramping doesn't usually last this long). So today is Wednesday and I haven't O'd yet. The e4d rule would put us at dtd tomorrow right? But if I O today then it'll be too late and I just have to hope that the spermies lived long enough to catch the egg? I'm nervous because we've been doing FR and he even released 4 hours before our attempt... and then when we dtd he released shallow. So now I'm scared that there wasn't enough.

I know I probably just need to chill out. Thanks for letting me vent lol

My chart for reference

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tfahn
January 20th, 2016, 12:29 PM
Keep your hopes up Quinn your not out yet.

Maybe you could justify the injectibles just for one cycle, taxmas is coming you know :), just so you could give yourself peace of mind that at least you tried it.

ksmom
January 20th, 2016, 12:40 PM
Quinn I've got my FX so tight for you! I so hope you get a BFP this cycle!!

Kmomofthree, sometimes the temp rise can be a bit delayed as BBT is not 100% accurate in pinpointing O day (although it's way better than just using OPKs). Your body may also have geared up to O then didn't for whatever reason. It IS possible to get pregnant with an O-3 attempt even with second batch. With my second loss, we had conceived with an O-2 attempt and DH had released 5 or 6 hours prior (didn't know he'd helped himself until after we'd DTD). I'd just stick with the E4D pattern because if you O'ed today and you DTD today, then you'd end up with two attempts in the fertile window. If you end up with just the O-3 attempt then that's pink friendly because there would be fewer swimmers left.

Kmomofthree
January 20th, 2016, 12:45 PM
Ok thank you. I just needed reassurance. Each time we've ever ttc we just dtd all the time... and I have all boys. It's hard for me to imagine one single attempt working.

maidentomother
January 20th, 2016, 03:21 PM
Nann, I trust my intuition 100% and I am SUPER decisive; I feel confident in my assessment of 99% of people in under 15 minutes of interaction. Often within seconds. So I don't need much time at all! I'm really good at picking up....or at least I used to be, in the US, I haven't tried here yet. But I have a lot of confidence so if there is someone appropriate I have a good shot. Bringing up the sperm donor issue isn't something I relish but I have nothing to lose and there's no real bad outcome. I can handle rejection.

Ive also seriously considered trying gay clubs, as I'd love to have a rainbow family. And in that scenario a gay couple may/should feel less threatened/concerned about sperm donation stressing their relationship, I would think?

Beautifulrainbow, of course it wouldn't be the end of the world but I would prefer to avoid as many genetic health issues as possible. I already have a dominant autoimmune condition (rheumatism) so I'd prefer not to have his gluten intolerance/hypothyroidism which is also dominant autoimmune. Mental health issues don't bother me though, they generally correlate with high intelligence so often a good thing, plus they make people interesting. I don't necessarily consider them flaws like I do many more visible/physical aspects. Since I have the opportunity to choose my donor (which I wouldn't to the same extent if married) I want to make the most of that by making the best choice. So my situation isn't really comparable to a married couple's.

Quinn, I used injectables last month and had a great response, 4 mature eggs, great hormone levels, lining, nice 14 day LP, followed by the heaviesr, most normal AF I've had since I started swaying pink. I had 5 days low dose FSH (Gonal F) injections. See last month's chart for more details. Unfortunately my donor was unable to successfully ejaculate until at least 6 hours after I Oed which is probably the primary reason I didn't get a BGP. His hypothyroidism negatively affects his sperm too.

Kmom, that is soooo frustrating I had a cycle in which the same exact thing happened to me except I Oed a lot later in my cycle, later than is normal for me even as a naturally late Oer. Our bodies can really mess with us when swaying & TTC, and it's common to have an O fakeout, so to speak. Ive learned that temps are usually much more reliable than other signs. I wouldn't attempt until tomorrow but I would definitely attempt tomorrow in case you don't O for another day or two which unfortunately is always possible. Though I hope you see a big temp spike tomorrow!

Beautifulrainbow
January 20th, 2016, 03:28 PM
I have missed the e4d rule, what is this either please explain or copy the link for it for me please

pinkin2011
January 20th, 2016, 03:47 PM
Well I ovulated yesterday cd16!! Clomid has definitely helped my ovulation I just hope I get a bfp

XXforhubby
January 20th, 2016, 03:48 PM
I have missed the e4d rule, what is this either please explain or copy the link for it for me please

BD every 4 days, unprotected, from the end of AF until the latest you ever have ovulated. No need for opks because it is still only having one attempt in your fertile window.


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twointow83
January 20th, 2016, 04:50 PM
Maiden- If I knew the person well... not necessarily besties but well enough I'd consider it... but she'd have to approach me and me alone first, because it really doesn't matter what hubby thinks if I am not on board. BUT I think it's important to mention that I have struggled with infertility and have had many friends struggle even more. I know ppl who have been TTC for over a decade, tried IVF and all and still have no baby :( SO I think that makes me unusually open to helping others start their family. In my case, I kinda think similar to you in that I'd never be okay with DH being an anonymous donor and knowing he may have kids somewhere that we don't know about and can have nothing to do with their lives.

Bottom line, the others are probably better ones to get advice from in this instance but if you decide to go ahead I would approach the wife alone first to help show you aren't trying to be sly and that you are respecting her feelings and marriage. Even better would be to not come out and ask at all, but rather slip it into a conversation where it feels natural (like when talking about kids) that you are trying to have one of your own and seeking a known donor but having a hard time finding an ideal donor. No more than that. Let that settle in and see what there reaction is. If favorable then you could consider approaching the wife. But as I said, the other's advice might be the better option... I view things a bit differently than most :/

maidentomother
January 20th, 2016, 05:11 PM
In addition to what XX said, if you want to be 100% sure you don't miss O you can BD all cycle long, not just once or twice after you think you Oed. It's good for sperm health too.

two, thanks so much, I think just mentioning my need for/use of a sperm donor in the context of a larger conversation is a great suggestion. And I wouldn't have likely thought of that bc I automatically approach things as directly as possible. Subtlety is so not my forte. I will feel her out and keep your idea in mind next time I see her. She may know a single guy who wants kids andmI'm open to any suggestions so it could be a success regardless. It's not like I have a burning desire for just this man's sperm or anything like that!

momamia4
January 20th, 2016, 05:43 PM
Maiden, I agree with Two. I would approach the wife individually before even mentioning it to the husband. I would be willing to consider it also, but I also have experience with infertility via my sister and SIL. I actually offered them both to use my uterus and eggs. I'd be open to my husband helping out someone ttc but I might be jaded too. LOL! My other sister is looking for an anonymous sperm donor. I offered my DH's, but she thought it would be weird. You don't sound like you'd be super upset if they turned you down though, so that helps. FX it works out for you! :D

Hi ladies! I'm back ttc again this cycle. I'm on cd8 and tonight is my last dose of 50mg clomid. This will be our 10th cycle ttc. It's so disheartening. I took a break from the clomid. I've never had problems ttc in the past and after my miscarriage at the beginning on September, I thought that we should try naturally for a while. Well, I didn't get pregnant. So, here we are again with the clomid. I hate the way clomid makes me feel. This cycle has been really difficult emotionally for me, so I really hope this cycle is successful. I guess we are having an extremely loose sway. I've been on a loose pcos version of the LE diet for a year now. I'd like to say that I'm super sick of it, but it's second nature now. I find myself choosing chicken over red meat all the time (I used to never eat chicken. Like literally never). We'll be having tons of attempts because I'm at the point that I just want to be preggo. I'm thinking like every day from tonight until cd22. That's how I got pregnant in July (my September m/c) Sorry for rambling! :) I'm glad to be back but hope it's a short stay. ;) Good luck to everyone!

Girlieplease
January 20th, 2016, 05:52 PM
Maiden poor you having to find a donor on top of all this tccc stuff, that is stressful! I really like two idea of dropping it into the conversation, it could let you suss them out but also as you suggest they may know someone else. If you plan to ask them directly I would be on the side of asking them at the same time, so nothing is lost in translation so to speak, with one of them hearing second hand and increased possibility of miss communication and misinterpretation!
Excited for the ladies attempting at the minute x

Blue Bear
January 20th, 2016, 07:48 PM
Welcome to the conversation momamia! Fun to see everyone starting to try again! Quinn - sorry for AF symptoms - I was guessing you were going to be our first positive of the month!

essnce629
January 20th, 2016, 10:04 PM
So this morning I woke up super sick and even threw up so I got excited and decided to test today at 9dpo. BFN with a FRER. I ended up with diarrhea and now body aches and a low 100 degree fever so I think I've just come down with a stomach bug! All I've eaten the entire day is a string cheese, applesauce, and Gatorade! Blah!

ksmom
January 20th, 2016, 10:31 PM
Only in the TWW would we get excited about throwing up. ;) So sorry you're not feeling well Essnce! Tummy bugs are no fun. :(

yarranabbe
January 21st, 2016, 05:37 AM
Hi ladies, hope I can join you all. I am 3dpo and have suspect sore nipples �� I'm sure it's too soon of course! It wasn't a great month to fall pg as I had a week of cheating on holidays eeeek

Essnce - you poor thing! I hope it's just a 24 hour bug

purple
January 21st, 2016, 06:07 AM
Hi yarranabbe, I'm 1 or 2dpo so not far behind you. I always get sore nipples for the first few days after ovulation, its one of the signs that helps me know I have ovulated so it is handy :)

Essnce - I hope you feel better soon!

Momamia - welcome back, hopefully you won't be back here for long and you get another BFP soon.

yarranabbe
January 21st, 2016, 06:57 AM
Great Purple! Look forward to testing with you soon. Fx for sticky pink for us both!

I haven't had AF back since my last ds so I'm
a bit rusty with o symptoms haha

momamia4
January 21st, 2016, 10:13 AM
Well, I decided not to take my last dose of clomid last night. I've been having a lot of side effects this time and just can't imagine having to take an additional pill. I hope that doesn't come back to bite me in the butt. :/ I've just had so much nausea and dizziness. My head has been feeling really weird. Clomid is the only thing that I've changed, so I know it isn't something else. Hopefully it'll wear off in a few days. How is everyone feeling today? :)

Quinn31
January 21st, 2016, 03:58 PM
Welcome back momamia and welcome yarranabbe. I've been purposely staying busy and avoiding ttc sites! Af was supposed to start today and didn't. I know that since I had the chemical it could mess my cycle up a bit. My usual lp is 11 days and with the chemical it was 19! I had the trigger shot so won't test early. I just don't feel pregnant though.

I'm actually feeling absolutely nothing except this weird discomfort just in my cervix/vagina area. Sorry for tmi but it almost feels like it's contracted a little bit. I've had this before too. Does anyone know why that happens? Or what the discomfort is from?


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tfahn
January 21st, 2016, 04:28 PM
Fingers crossed Quinn, the January board needs some BFP's so hopefully you can start it off. When will you get a blood test?

farmgirl33
January 21st, 2016, 04:59 PM
Welcome yarranabbe. Fx for a bfp for you this month.

Essnce- hope you are feeling better soon. I hate being sick, especially with a tummy bug.

Purple- I'm 1 or 2 Dpo today. Feeling it's probably only 1 dpo. Temp rose a bit yesterday but not into my usual post o range. Today however it rose a lot & is in my usual post o range.

Momamia- fx you get your bfp this cycle too.

Quinn - fx af stays away & you get a bfp.

Now that my temp has jumped into post o range dh can have tonight off bd. We have bd for 5 nights straight. No morning bd due to dd3 waking too early.


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purple
January 21st, 2016, 05:13 PM
My temp jumped this morning. I put in a few high temps for the next few days and Ff can't detect ovulation with my wierd chart. I'm thinking cd29 is my o date.

pinkin2011
January 21st, 2016, 05:25 PM
I am 1 dpo today. I had the most awful awful ovulation pains yesterday arvo I have never had o pain like it. Second month of clomid. I was watching movie with hubby I couldn't even concentrate on it I had to take nurofen and go to bed. Still a bi of stabbing pain this morning , the pain has only been in my left side......

I hope everyone else is going well.

this 2ww is going to draggggggggg...............

atomic sagebrush
January 21st, 2016, 05:53 PM
this is me every month with the O pain!!! It's crippling. I know it's hard to believe when you don't normally get it but it's still normal, esp. on Clomid.

My recommendation is sex with female O even though I know it sounds like the last thing you want to do, it realy helps.

pinkin2011
January 21st, 2016, 06:01 PM
Thanks Atomic, I do usually suffer from o pain where it hurts to sit don or sneeze but this was something else!! Similar pain but so intense hubby was concerned! I did actually have the big o yesterday which was before the pain started. Maybe I should try again today as i am still uncomfortable.

twointow83
January 22nd, 2016, 01:27 AM
Maiden, I agree with Two. I would approach the wife individually before even mentioning it to the husband. I would be willing to consider it also, but I also have experience with infertility via my sister and SIL. I actually offered them both to use my uterus and eggs. I'd be open to my husband helping out someone ttc but I might be jaded too. LOL! My other sister is looking for an anonymous sperm donor. I offered my DH's, but she thought it would be weird. You don't sound like you'd be super upset if they turned you down though, so that helps. FX it works out for you! :D

Hi ladies! I'm back ttc again this cycle. I'm on cd8 and tonight is my last dose of 50mg clomid. This will be our 10th cycle ttc. It's so disheartening. I took a break from the clomid. I've never had problems ttc in the past and after my miscarriage at the beginning on September, I thought that we should try naturally for a while. Well, I didn't get pregnant. So, here we are again with the clomid. I hate the way clomid makes me feel. This cycle has been really difficult emotionally for me, so I really hope this cycle is successful. I guess we are having an extremely loose sway. I've been on a loose pcos version of the LE diet for a year now. I'd like to say that I'm super sick of it, but it's second nature now. I find myself choosing chicken over red meat all the time (I used to never eat chicken. Like literally never). We'll be having tons of attempts because I'm at the point that I just want to be preggo. I'm thinking like every day from tonight until cd22. That's how I got pregnant in July (my September m/c) Sorry for rambling! :) I'm glad to be back but hope it's a short stay. ;) Good luck to everyone!

Great to see another familiar face has returned :bigsmile: Keeping my :fingers: for you!

twointow83
January 22nd, 2016, 01:48 AM
The last few day have bee ROUGH! It's currently friday here (for those outside the US), though just barely (12:30 am). On Tuesday I had the WORST pains on my left side (the kind that make you want to put your fist through a wall, or curl op and die.. either way). Then, on Wednesday, I had a very different but just as bad kind of pain on my right side. Basically, Tues's pains were very sharp but Wen's were more like a swollen, gonna pop any second kind of pain with the added bonus of being so bloated (I looked about 6-7 months preg) that I felt like I really was gonna pop. Wen's pains were like ALL over my lower abdomen and I only realized the were originating solely for my right after laying down. It was awful. So much so that my ovaries are STILL sore (usually post-o I get near complete relief for a few days before the post-o pinching and cramping starts in). Today...er yesterday, my right side was pretty stabby feeling also, whereas my left has been more of a dull ache with a stab here and there. Anyway, point being it has been a pretty rough O this month! Managed to get lots of BD'ing in despite the pain (though I REALLY REALLY didn't want to but knew I needed to) for a total of 4 attempts (one O-2, two on O-1 and one on O-day). I got my shift yesterday (Thursday) morning and as of today my signs are trending toward infertile but not there just yet (for example my CM is an EW/Creamy mix) so I am thinking I prob O'd in the later hours on Wen night... soon enough to get a shift but late enough to not go completely infertile today. So... now we wait *sigh*
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pinkin2011
January 22nd, 2016, 01:57 AM
Twointow. I got 6 attempts in . Even tho id like a girl I just need and want to get pregnant!

twointow83
January 22nd, 2016, 02:01 AM
Twointow. I got 6 attempts in . Even tho id like a girl I just need and want to get pregnant!
Same here. I would still love to have a girl but at this point we just want a healthy bean no matter the gender. We r just ready to put the TTC part of our lives out to pasture and move on with our lives whatever that future may hold.

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼
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pinkin2011
January 22nd, 2016, 02:54 AM
Oh I know what you mean!!! Our ds2 is 3.5 now and I don't want a really big gap. I just want to move on with life too. Build a house ect . TTC has been consuming me since 2014 and I am so sick of it. Plus I need to get off this clomid as I am turning into a crazy woman

farmgirl33
January 22nd, 2016, 06:43 AM
Twointow- so sorry you've had such terrible pain. That's great though you got lots of bd in, well done. Fx it leads to a bfp. Sending you all my girl dust.

Pinkin - well done on all your bd attempts too. We only managed 5 which I'm sure is the most we've ever done when ttc. If i o'd yesterday, then we bd every night from 0-4 to 0. Fx for a bfp for you this month & sending you lots of girl dust too.






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farmgirl33
January 22nd, 2016, 06:51 AM
Oh I know what you mean!!! Our ds2 is 3.5 now and I don't want a really big gap. I just want to move on with life too. Build a house ect . TTC has been consuming me since 2014 and I am so sick of it. Plus I need to get off this clomid as I am turning into a crazy woman

I get what you're saying pinkin. Even though this is only our 2nd cycle ttc, I have been off the pill since nov 2014 as we were originally planning to give my body a couple of natural cycles then we were going to ttc. For various reasons we kept putting it off & now I just want to be pregnant & have a baby then I can start clearing out all the baby stuff that is cluttering my house & move on with life as a family of 6. I really feel I am meant to have 4 kids, but know that I will then be done. No way can I see us having anymore than 4.


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twointow83
January 22nd, 2016, 07:54 AM
Oh I know what you mean!!! Our ds2 is 3.5 now and I don't want a really big gap. I just want to move on with life too. Build a house ect . TTC has been consuming me since 2014 and I am so sick of it. Plus I need to get off this clomid as I am turning into a crazy woman
3.5 years isn't too bad, but I guess we all have our preferences. My youngest would be 6 by the time baby is born, even if I get preg like right now. I never wanted a gap that big. I think about 4 years is perfect. My kids are autistic and potty train really late (both at 4 years old). We have been trying to get preg since a couple months after my youngest potty trained and thanks to 2 early losses and a CP we are still trying. My youngest's b-day is in June and I always said that if my youngest was 6 we wouldn't be starting over. That woild put us close to my youngest being 7 by the time baby is born. Much bigger gap than we ever wanted but we have decided we have until July to get preg or we are done TTC. So, the focus at this point is less gender dreaming and more baby dreaming lol. I'd be over the moon regardless of gender if baby would just stick and be healthy.

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼
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twointow83
January 22nd, 2016, 07:58 AM
Ok... this app thanked myself on my post lol. Weird :giggle:

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purple
January 22nd, 2016, 09:08 AM
My gap will be at least 5 years now. I guess the bonus will be the older 2 are in school so I would have days to spend just with the baby.

ksmom
January 22nd, 2016, 10:48 AM
I tip my hat to you ladies who have been TTC for so long. I hope you all get BFPs very, very soon!! FX

Quinn, you'll be testing very soon right? Eee good luck! :)

CD15 today and got a high reading on the advanced OPK which is quite early for me. I'd been feeling like my body is gearing up for O but wasn't sure if it was just wishful thinking.

Quinn31
January 22nd, 2016, 01:32 PM
Well af is still not here so this is the longest lp I've had but since I had the cp last month I'm not sure if my cycle might be longer. I go for beta on Sunday if I don't start. Since I had the chemical, I'm so paranoid.

I'm still having the weird vagina/cervix pain. I have no idea what it is and it's freaking me out!


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essnce629
January 22nd, 2016, 01:44 PM
My DS1 will be 13 in August and DS2 will be 7 in May so I definitely know a thing or two about big age gaps!!! If I ever manage to have a 3rd my youngest will be at least 7.5 years older!

As it's playing out though I may only end up with my two boys. I will be 35 in June and never wanted to have kids later than that.

BFN today at 11dpo with a FRER.

XXforhubby
January 22nd, 2016, 02:42 PM
My DS1 will be 13 in August and DS2 will be 7 in May so I definitely know a thing or two about big age gaps!!! If I ever manage to have a 3rd my youngest will be at least 7.5 years older!

As it's playing out though I may only end up with my two boys. I will be 35 in June and never wanted to have kids later than that.

BFN today at 11dpo with a FRER.

Hang in there essnce! I'm praying you get your long awaited BFP! I can't speak to large age gaps between kids, but I can speak to age and having more kids. I really wasn't interested in having kids, believe it or not! DH said it was a deal breaker for him so I took a leap of faith, and boy am I happy I did! I had my first at 31 and my third at 36. We may try for number 4 when I'm 37-38. It's crazy talk for me and surreal to say that! I never would have thought...

So never say never! You just never know what wonderful things can happen if you keep options open!! I'm hoping your DH will slip with pulling out! He must have a willpower of steel!!


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XXforhubby
January 22nd, 2016, 02:51 PM
I'm feeling pretty complete at the moment...we will see when I pack up/go through clothes...


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tfahn
January 22nd, 2016, 06:48 PM
XXforhubby, I was the same way. I never wanted kids, hubby did , I was married for 16 years and then finally felt like something was missing. Not sure if my clock started ticking or my moms passing 2 years earlier that really got me thinking over things. I had our first just after turning 37 and still Ttc #2 which is looking like I'll be 40 by the time I would have #2. It's the best thing I ever did and sometimes could kick myself for not starting earlier but so glad i had a change of heart.

XXforhubby
January 22nd, 2016, 07:22 PM
XXforhubby, I was the same way. I never wanted kids, hubby did , I was married for 16 years and then finally felt like something was missing. Not sure if my clock started ticking or my moms passing 2 years earlier that really got me thinking over things. I had our first just after turning 37 and still Ttc #2 which is looking like I'll be 40 by the time I would have #2. It's the best thing I ever did and sometimes could kick myself for not starting earlier but so glad i had a change of heart.

I couldn't agree more!!


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Kmomofthree
January 22nd, 2016, 07:57 PM
I think I'm finally joining the 2ww :-)

I thought for sure I was O'ing earlier this week but seems I may finally just be 1 dpo :-)

29486


Fingers crossed and prayers for all of us. :HH::fingers:

ksmom
January 22nd, 2016, 09:19 PM
Looks like good BD timing Kmomofthree! Good luck!!

farmgirl33
January 22nd, 2016, 11:43 PM
29487

FF has me at 5dpo today. I think I'm 2-3 dpo. Might have to manually override it if it doesn't change after tomorrow's temp.

pinkin2011
January 23rd, 2016, 02:06 AM
I am 2 or 3 dpo today too farmgirl. When do you plan on testing? I brought a 7 pack of first response from chemist warehouse so I think I will start testing not this Monday coming but next. which will be 11 or 12dpo im thinking more like 11 dpo

Pbn3
January 23rd, 2016, 02:44 AM
Just popping in to say good luck ladies and fx you all get your bfps!!

farmgirl33
January 23rd, 2016, 03:01 AM
Grrrr just saw my chart hasn't uploaded clear & I'm in town with good internet. Don't know why it won't upload properly.

Pinkin - I will try to wait until 10dpo. See how I go through, I have a few frer left over from last cycle, so depending on if I get any symptoms I may test earlier. Will try not to though.

Pbn - thanks hope you are going ok.


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pinkin2011
January 23rd, 2016, 03:57 AM
Pbn I have been thinking of you. I hope you are feeling ok

Pbn3
January 23rd, 2016, 04:49 AM
Thank you both :) I have a thread running in the ttc after loss forum. Currently 5dpo and in the 2ww if you can believe it....

yarranabbe
January 23rd, 2016, 05:32 AM
Pbn3 I'm 4 dpo too.... Having lotsa AF type cramps which are making me feel hopeful

Farmgirl & pinkin 2011- I'm aiming for 10dpo too but will prolly cave at 8 lol. Fx for everyone!

My sway wasn't the greatest, I hadn't had AF back yet due to bf and we had an oopsy which as it turned out was the day before I got my first positive OPK! I would have liked another month on the diet but am excited to get a positive either way

Bella29
January 23rd, 2016, 06:08 AM
Hi all, I'm cd14, and using opks. Haven't had a surge, but wonder if I missed it because I've been using first morning urine. Just began to have EWCM this morning, so probably will dtd today or tomorrow. Was gonna try to time as well as use pressed and sway for a boy. It worked for us last time along with a HE diet.


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purple
January 23rd, 2016, 06:32 AM
Hi Bella. Isn't it usually better to test OPKs in the afternoon? Your signature says you are expecting a boy in May? Does it need updating?

purple
January 23rd, 2016, 06:57 AM
I just had to laugh, I'm watching a tv show and there is a girl on it who did a pregnancy test. She shows her partner the test and it is a FRER with two dark blue lines they obviously just drew on it.

So if anyone wants a BFP you just have to draw it on :)

pinkin2011
January 23rd, 2016, 07:27 AM
I will remember that Purple for in 8 days time! ha ha

Nann3r
January 23rd, 2016, 11:00 AM
I'm super frustrated. I've had EWCM now for two days but negative opks.. So we went ahead and made an attempt cuz I wanna trust CM more than opks.. I'm supposed to o on Monday so I should be getting positives but haven't yet /: we'll just keep doing every other day from now till O shows up.

Kmomofthree
January 23rd, 2016, 12:28 PM
I would definitely start Nan.... what is the rule when ttc a boy? You definitely do a few attempts right?

Nann3r
January 23rd, 2016, 12:53 PM
Yeah that's what I've read. Multiple attempts sways blue. So yeah we're def gonna just start trying now!

2xblue
January 23rd, 2016, 02:28 PM
Pbn, so glad to hear you are ttc and in 2ww. I really hope you will get bfp soon!

Good luck to everyone else too! Hopefully there will be many bfps!

Pbn3
January 23rd, 2016, 05:55 PM
Thanks 2xblue wasn't going to ttc until march but *fate* had a different plan :)

Blue Bear
January 23rd, 2016, 08:37 PM
Hi Ladies! I am on vacation this week but wanted to report that I got a bfp today at 9 dpo! Praying for a sticky bean this time! I had bought the wondfro cheapie pack for the first time from amazon this month and got a clear positive and had a first response I was going to wait to use until day 11 but used it with the same urine and had a very faint bfp. I guess I felt our attempt was decent this month so thought there may be a chance - plus had creamy CM for past 4 or so days and got nauseaus a few times in car and in plane. Had attempts at O-2, 0-1 (2x - got + opk that morning) and afternoon of O (although based on the test trips think I Od that morning). Will do another test this week (or 5 since I brought a ton of cheapies along!). Very interesting though that the wondfro was darker than the frer. I thought it would be the opposite. Also just wanted to throw in that the times I got pregnant this past year, I got positives for the first time at 12 dpo and then 11 dpo.

purple
January 23rd, 2016, 08:50 PM
Congrats bluebear! Finally some Jan BFPs! Fx for a sticky one.

Nann just keep up with e2d.. that got me my boys!

pinkin2011
January 23rd, 2016, 08:55 PM
Congratulations Blue Bear xo

Bella29
January 23rd, 2016, 09:03 PM
Hey purple, yeah I think from recent reading that 2-2:30 in the afternoon is best, so I'm testing twice a day atm. I tested first thing this morning and it is def positive, so will dtd now because hubby is off to work for 36 hrs now. Fingers crossed we catch this egg with one attempt because there won't be a lot of other opportunity, just the way the cookie has crumbled. Going to use preseed as well, I picked up a new bottle yesterday. I have loads of slippery mucous, so I mad going to ovulate any min I think. I was reading that the older you get, the closer to a positive opk your egg releases and since I am 36, I figure that means any second now.

Congrats on the bfp blue bear!


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essnce629
January 23rd, 2016, 09:10 PM
Congrats Blue Bear!!! I think you are the first BFP of the month! Post pics of your tests!

ksmom
January 23rd, 2016, 10:02 PM
Yay Blue Bear! Congratulations and FX for a sticky bean!! :)

yarranabbe
January 23rd, 2016, 10:37 PM
Congrats blue bear!!! How exciting! An October baby?

Gagirl0221
January 23rd, 2016, 10:42 PM
Congrats! Blue Bear. Excited you got BFP! Nan fx for you as well I'm also pray for blue dust. I will be doing e2d and Ed through o. I hope we all get what our hearts desire. I should o at the end of this up coming week.

Kmomofthree
January 23rd, 2016, 10:53 PM
Congratulations Blue Bear!!!

Magical22
January 23rd, 2016, 11:27 PM
Congrats blue bear


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farmgirl33
January 23rd, 2016, 11:42 PM
Congratulations Blue Bear, so exciting.


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pinkin2011
January 23rd, 2016, 11:48 PM
Soooo. I am symptom spotting. Since 2dpo I have had TMI some cm that looks white/yellow its there pretty much every time I wipe. I know I wouldn't have anything going on as if there was a potential embie growing in there it wont even implant for days! Anything to keep me busy tho ha ha

essnce629
January 24th, 2016, 04:34 AM
Temp drop to coverline today so I am expecting AF tomorrow (Sun).

momamia4
January 24th, 2016, 07:31 AM
Yay, blue bear!!! Congratulations!!! :)

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momamia4
January 24th, 2016, 07:39 AM
Sorry essnce! :(

I have had really strange flat temps for the last 3 days now. The last time I had something similar was in July (my m/c cycle). The only difference is that this time, I'm not getting a +opk. I'm actually getting a low (I use the CB advanced). I figured that I'd at least be getting highs by now. It's really weird. I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the tester. So, this morning I switched to the other one in the box. Also, I called my RE's office to find out if I could do a trigger shot this month. They said they don't really think that I need it but if I don't get a +opk by cd14 to call them and they'll bring me in for an ultrasound. Depending on what that shows, they'll decide if I should do the trigger shot. Cd14 is in 2 days, so I'm super confident that I'm not going to have a +opk by then. FX I get the trigger shot in a few days!!! :)

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Blue Bear
January 24th, 2016, 07:52 AM
Congrats Blue Bear!!! I think you are the first BFP of the month! Post pics of your tests!
Here's the pic from yesterday 9 dpo. 29498

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Blue Bear
January 24th, 2016, 07:55 AM
Congrats blue bear!!! How exciting! An October baby?
Yes October 6 or so based on fertility friend. Which is just a few days away from my dd's bday.

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XXforhubby
January 24th, 2016, 10:33 AM
Sorry essnce! :(

I have had really strange flat temps for the last 3 days now. The last time I had something similar was in July (my m/c cycle). The only difference is that this time, I'm not getting a +opk. I'm actually getting a low (I use the CB advanced). I figured that I'd at least be getting highs by now. It's really weird. I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the tester. So, this morning I switched to the other one in the box. Also, I called my RE's office to find out if I could do a trigger shot this month. They said they don't really think that I need it but if I don't get a +opk by cd14 to call them and they'll bring me in for an ultrasound. Depending on what that shows, they'll decide if I should do the trigger shot. Cd14 is in 2 days, so I'm super confident that I'm not going to have a +opk by then. FX I get the trigger shot in a few days!!! :)

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FX for you Momamia! I never got a pos opk during my BFP cycle! I also had strange pre o temps too. Not quite flatline, but steady. I didn't think I would get a BFP, but I did!

I hope the same happens to you! [emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], & DS3[emoji602] completes our family [emoji170]!

momamia4
January 24th, 2016, 10:48 AM
Thanks, XX!!! I sure hope you're right!! :)

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Bella29
January 24th, 2016, 11:49 AM
That's a beautiful bfp blue bear! Yay for you.

Is it just me, or is conception sex hotter for some reason?


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Kmomofthree
January 24th, 2016, 12:29 PM
That's a beautiful bfp blue bear! Yay for you.

Is it just me, or is conception sex hotter for some reason?


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Yes. I'm way more into it when I know we are trying to conceive. Seems weird.. lol

maidentomother
January 24th, 2016, 12:55 PM
BlueBear, huge congrats! Nice lines.

Momamia, you can't switch CBAD holder mid cycle...that will only make it more likely for you to miss your Highs and possibly even Peak. Go back to using the older reader ASAP. I'm glad you have the option to get a trigger though!

Bella, I do think TTC is a really sexy idea. It should be, it's the purpose of sex!

Kmomofthree
January 24th, 2016, 12:56 PM
Might be a silly question but, ... could having a stomach bug prevent pregnancy? My oldest had it yesterday, throwing up all day. Now I'm just waiting for the rest of us to get it :-( . If i were to get sick would that possibly prevent a fertilized egg from implanting?

tfahn
January 24th, 2016, 01:00 PM
Anyone know if the readings on a CBAD are accurate a month after taking Clomid? I took Clomid last cycle but not his one so not sure if my readings are accurate

maidentomother
January 24th, 2016, 01:38 PM
tfahn, they should be accurate.

Kmom, I don't think it generally interferes. I had the worst case of stomach flu right at O the cycle I conceived my twins. One failed to detach from my ovary which is why I miscarried but I was assured illness wouldn't cause that. It doesn't make sense that it would. Babies are well protected in there. I really hope your DS1 feels better soon and no one else gets sick.

Kmomofthree
January 24th, 2016, 01:48 PM
How does everyone get their chart in their signature? I can't figure it out

maidentomother
January 24th, 2016, 02:06 PM
You need to get a special link from FF, under the Share tab when you're looking at your calendar/chart.

Girlieplease
January 24th, 2016, 04:40 PM
Congratulations blue bear, that is a great line for 9 dpo, oh no essence hopefully af is not on the way. Good luck to all ladies trying this week or waiting for their bfp, fingers crossed for you all x o

purple
January 24th, 2016, 05:39 PM
I'm 5dpo today and getting some cramps... of course I'm jumping to conclusions about implementation cramps as it is similar to them in the past. Probably not though... I won't get my hopes up.

farmgirl33
January 24th, 2016, 06:26 PM
I'm symptom spotting too. Think I'm 5dpo & drinking my coffee & getting a funny feeling, almost queasy like & like I need to burp. I am still able to drink it & really want it, but it's the same feeling I got last cycle when I had my cp. Telling myself it's all in my head as I was looking at my chart from last cycle & the queasiness started around 6dpo. Also my cm has been sticky which is normal but it feels like there is more & it is a wetter feeling when normally I am dry. Fx that we all get our bfp's this month.


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twointow83
January 24th, 2016, 09:43 PM
Congrats blue bear!!

So, I am 4 DPO and I swear this TWW is CRAWLING. Crawling so slow it makes my previous TWWs seem like they were 1 day long. It seems like O was AT LEAST a week ago but 7 dpo feels like an eternity away. For some reason I'm not too hopeful. I don't know why... we got PLENTY of attempts in, but I just don't feel like this is going to be a BFP cycle for us. A valentines baby is not an awful prospect but I just want to be done TTC :/ But we wait.... Hope everyone else's TWWs are flying by for you.

pinkin2011
January 24th, 2016, 09:57 PM
My Tww is going slow too. I dont feel confident either even tho we dtd for 7 days in a row

twointow83
January 25th, 2016, 12:14 AM
My Tww is going slow too. I dont feel confident either even tho we dtd for 7 days in a row

Ugh! It sucks, right? For me it's like... the small amount of hope makes trudging through the TWW worth it but with out it is like "What is the point of this?". I could be 100% wrong and get a BFP this cycle but I'm just not feeling much hope at this point :/

Nann3r
January 25th, 2016, 12:20 AM
Joining the dreaded 2WW with you all.. I'm pretty sure I'll ovulate tonight most likely. We just made our last attempt. So technically I'm like 0dpo.. Boo.. I had goulash and mashed potatoes for lunch and tacos for dinner:) last minute sway meals! Also used preseed.

We did something a little different this time though. I big O'd after him instead of before. So I'm hoping that helps the spermies move along their way :)

essnce629
January 25th, 2016, 01:22 AM
CD1 for me.

Good luck everyone still waiting to test! I hope we get some more BFPs in the next week!

ksmom
January 25th, 2016, 09:37 AM
Sorry you got AF Essnce. :( I keep hoping one of those little pink swimmers will sneak through for you! ;)

FX for those currently in the TWW! Come on ladies, let's see some BFPs! :cheer:

ksmom
January 25th, 2016, 01:38 PM
CD18 and got a pos. OPK! I never get positives this early! Only problem is we DTD two days ago and I typically O one to two days after pos. OPK so I'm worried it'll be either an O-3 attempt or O day which aren't the best odds. :worry:29513

Ah I'm so nervous!

signingmommyfor3
January 25th, 2016, 02:03 PM
Ksmom dtd today and you should be fine, maybe today and then in 2 days

twointow83
January 25th, 2016, 02:21 PM
CD1 for me.

Good luck everyone still waiting to test! I hope we get some more BFPs in the next week!

(((HUGS))) I'm sorry :(

momamia4
January 25th, 2016, 02:47 PM
So sorry, essnce!! :bighug:

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momamia4
January 25th, 2016, 03:04 PM
Ksmom, I'd dtd tomorrow and call it good.

Well, I finally got a high reading on my CBAD on the older reader. I'm glad I switched back. Thank you maiden!! :) I'm definitely not going to get my peak by tomorrow though. I normally have at least 5 days of high before my peak. So, hopefully I'll be able to go in for an ultrasound tomorrow and get a trigger shot!! :fx: I've had lots of cramping on both sides, so I know something is happening in there.

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XXforhubby
January 25th, 2016, 03:23 PM
Huge hugs Essnce!

Ksmom- DTD tomorrow! I too O two days after pos opk. O-1 is what brought me my BFP!!

FX and loads of baby dust to all you lovely ladies TTCing [emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94] !


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], & DS3[emoji602] completes our family [emoji170]!

twointow83
January 25th, 2016, 03:24 PM
Ksmom, I'd dtd tomorrow and call it good.

Well, I finally got a high reading on my CBAD on the older reader. I'm glad I switched back. Thank you maiden!! :) I'm definitely not going to get my peak by tomorrow though. I normally have at least 5 days of high before my peak. So, hopefully I'll be able to go in for an ultrasound tomorrow and get a trigger shot!! :fx: I've had lots of cramping on both sides, so I know something is happening in there.

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:fx:

ksmom
January 25th, 2016, 03:59 PM
Thank you so much ladies! Even Atomic advised me to do two attempts this cycle. I think we will DTD tomorrow so we'll end up with BD on cd16 and 19 with O day either cd19 or 20...maybe even cd21. It could possibly end up being an O-3 and an O day attempt but with DH getting back into weightlifting/bulking up and with swaying for so long, I feel like we need to just go for it. Gah I have butterflies I'm so anxious!! Eeeek

Good luck Momamia!!! :fingers: Baby dust!!

momamia4
January 25th, 2016, 04:04 PM
Thanks ladies!!! Baby dust, ksmom!!! :)

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Girlieplease
January 25th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Am excited lots of bding action, hope that results in lots of bfp, I conceived my dd on the 26 th of January and October was a lovely month to have a baby, it meant she was 8 weeks by Christmas so over that hectic newborn stage, lots of baby dust to you all, I have started the diet and exercise ahead of my attempt in March, but dh has put a real spanner in the works, he is not keen. He says he is concerned how I will react if I get a boy when I have put so much effort into getting a girl, I have tried explaining that I wanted another dd when I was pregnant with ds 2 and could not love him more, he also thinks at 35 nearly 36 the risk of having a child with something wrong with it is higher, so why risk it when we are blessed with three healthy children, he also has said that my dd is privileged in our family as she is the girl and she will lose that position if we have another girl, also with 6 years apart, maybe too much of an age gap to be close, am confused 😕 he says my other three will suffer with my attention been divided between four. Any advice? X

ksmom
January 25th, 2016, 05:03 PM
Girlie I don't have much advice to give since I don't have a DD and my boys are quite close in age but my nieces are nearly 5 years apart in age. I remember my BIL was hoping for a boy partly because he was worried about my niece no longer being the only princess in the house. She gets along great though with her little sister and is of great help. I think as they get older, they'll be best friends despite the age difference. I do think the transition was tougher for my niece than it was for my DS1 when DS2 was born since my boys are less than 2 years apart. It takes time for all kids though to adjust to a new addition to the family.

Magical22
January 25th, 2016, 05:53 PM
So sorry essence, this month [emoji5]


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Ttc2015
January 25th, 2016, 06:13 PM
I was going to try every 4 days this cycle, starting in day 8 (which was Saturday) but I got sick and it was the last thing I wanted to do! Now on heavy duty antibiotics for 10 days, does anyone know if up this would affect conceiving/if it's dangerous?! Feeling much better so might start day 12 (normally get positive opk day 16) - so days 12,16 & 20, which would still be one attempt in fertile window. Anyone got any advice?

momamia4
January 25th, 2016, 08:24 PM
I think atomic says that if you need the antibiotics, then they take precedence. But I don't think they effect your odds of conception.

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Nann3r
January 25th, 2016, 11:19 PM
Quick question. I got pos opks Saturday and Sunday. And then a negative opk today. We attempted Saturday and Sunday. Should we attempt today? Or should we stop attempt till my fertile window has passed now?

momamia4
January 25th, 2016, 11:47 PM
Nann, I would dtd once more. :)

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pinkin2011
January 26th, 2016, 01:41 AM
Id dtd again too Nann

purple
January 26th, 2016, 02:04 AM
Yep, one more just in case :)

Sorry you are sick ttc215. On the positive side sickness sways girl :) Hopefully O slant l doesn't get delayed too much.

Anyone testing soon? Sorry I haven't kept the first page up to date. It says I was due to test yesterday but I didn't expect to be only 5dpo then.

farmgirl33
January 26th, 2016, 03:04 AM
Yup Nann I'd do one more too. I had never really kept testing once I got my 1st +opk but I did a couple of cycles & found the day I got a - opk seemed to be the day I o'd.

Girlie - part of the reason why we have only recently been ttc & I've been off the pill for over a year is because my dh kept changing his mind. He did & then he thought of finances & car arrangements & how much it ties me down etc & so he would say no I'm happy with our 3 healthy girls. I told him how I felt & that I had a deep yearning for another baby etc.

Purple - yup I'm the same, had my test date as today, but o was later than I expected.




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Pbn3
January 26th, 2016, 03:34 AM
Definately dtd again nann. You may have caught the tail end of surge hence the neg opk bit could still be o anytime now if you havent already. Dtd again wont hurt just gives you an extra attempt and covers all bases :)

yarranabbe
January 26th, 2016, 04:17 AM
Hi girls, I tested today at 7dpo and got a very very faint line.

I'm sorry to hear that Essence

Fx for everyone in the 2ww xx

Pbn3
January 26th, 2016, 04:56 AM
Essnce I'm so sorry you're at cd1. I got so excited for you with dh's minor kind of slip up and was sure you had a great chance :(.

farmgirl33
January 26th, 2016, 06:08 AM
Yay yarranabbe. Have you got a photo?

If I haven't said before essnce sorry AF came.




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maidentomother
January 26th, 2016, 03:44 PM
Momamia, glad you switched back! I would assume you'd have a normal amount of High days on Clomid, like 3-4. I would not be surprised if you got a Peak in a day or two.

essnce, I'm so sorry. I know how much it sucks after getting your hopes up even the slightest.

yarra, congrats on your BFP! Yay!

Ttc2015, I wouldn't worry about the ABs, I actually think they might sway pink and illness definitely does. As has been said, I would just be aware that O might be delayed.

As for me...I have been exhausted and getting hot flashes again, plus I've had constant mild O pain for a week now. For several days on my left side too which is exciting, that's my lazy ovary (I basically never O from the left, and my right ovary may be damaged from my ectopic). I was wanting to BD every 4 days starting very early but the extreme fatigue has been crippling. I am already fatigued due to my pain and my pain meds so I'm just not functional. My pain meds also mess with my temperature regulation (which has always been crap anyway) and exacerbates my hot flashes. So now I'm just hoping for one attempt at positive OPK but I'm afraid my O pain and/or fatigue will inhibit that....I guess we'll see.

Really sick of being tired! It seems all hormones/hormonal drugs make me tired...though Clomid is way worse than Gonal-F.

ksmom
January 26th, 2016, 03:59 PM
Yay yarranabe! Congrats! :)

maidentomother
January 26th, 2016, 04:15 PM
ksmom, I think E3D is pretty pink so if you BD one day sooner for better timing I think you will still have a good shot at pink. I hope that early O means a nice high quality egg! Most of my pregnancies are from earlier than usual O. (for me, a late Oer generally).

ksmom
January 26th, 2016, 05:22 PM
Thanks Maidentomother!

I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating today since I've had my usual O pains this morning. It's late afternoon here and the pains have gone away now. If we BD tonight and I am O'ing today then that will be an O-3 and O day attempt which I think is still better than say an O-1 and O-2 together. This cycle has been so different with only 1 day of pos OPK when I usually have 2-3 and I've had much less EWCM than normal.

Honeybug
January 26th, 2016, 09:20 PM
Hi ladies, I'm coming over to wait out the next two-ish weeks! I'm currently cd 16, and dh and I will continue to bd every 3 days until next cycle/bfp. My fingers are crossed that there will be lots of BFP's in-between now and then!

Maidenmother remind me, is this your first clomid cycle? What cd are you now? I hear you on the fatigue, I feel like I can't go without a midafternoon nap on clomid!

ksmom - I think it's a good plan to bd tonight, fx for you!

Kmomofthree
January 26th, 2016, 10:17 PM
So with FRER it says it can detect pregnancy 6 days before missed period. Well, my period is due in 5 days BUT I am 5 dpo today... so testing tomorrow at 6 dpo would be dumb, right? Even though I'm 4 days away from AF? I have a short LP.

purple
January 26th, 2016, 10:45 PM
So with FRER it says it can detect pregnancy 6 days before missed period. Well, my period is due in 5 days BUT I am 5 dpo today... so testing tomorrow at 6 dpo would be dumb, right? Even though I'm 4 days away from AF? I have a short LP.

I think that really must be based on the 'standard' 14 day LP so I wouldn't test that early as implantation wouldn't have even happened yet!

Can you hold off until 10dpo? Although then you could just wait until the next day to see if AF turns up.

I'm 10dpo on Saturday (it is Wednesday lunchtime now) but I'm not sure if I will test. Might just wait until AF (I mean it this time lol)

Magical22
January 26th, 2016, 10:54 PM
Good luck purple [emoji5]


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Magical22
January 26th, 2016, 10:54 PM
So with FRER it says it can detect pregnancy 6 days before missed period. Well, my period is due in 5 days BUT I am 5 dpo today... so testing tomorrow at 6 dpo would be dumb, right? Even though I'm 4 days away from AF? I have a short LP.

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Nann3r
January 26th, 2016, 10:55 PM
1dpo... Feels like 100... Lol:)

pinkin2011
January 26th, 2016, 11:03 PM
I am 6dpo and its dragging. I moved test day to 10dpo ha ..

Kmomofthree
January 26th, 2016, 11:13 PM
Yeah I figured they were referring to "normal" people. Ha

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January 26th, 2016, 11:29 PM
Good luck ladies [emoji5]


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yarranabbe
January 27th, 2016, 05:44 AM
Thanks everyone for your well wishes but I think I had either an Evap line or a chemical as today there is no line! Argh. But I'm only 8dpo too so not calling it just yet. Ttc does my head in

Maidentomother- you poor thing that sounds really hard. Fx this is your cycle and it's all worth it

Ksmom & honey bug - good luck to both of you!!!

Kmomof3- I know it doesn't make much sense scientifically lol but I started testing at 6dpo just in case haha

Purple - you're doing so well holding off testing! Fx for you when you do!

purple
January 27th, 2016, 06:18 AM
Sorry yarranabbe :( Was it a FRER? They have tricked me twice with the shadow line so that is another reason I am waiting longer to test. 8dpo is still really early so you are not out!

momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 08:23 AM
Well, I still haven't gotten my peak opk so I'm headed into my RE's office in about an hour for an ultrasound. :fx: they give me the trigger shot!! I can't imagine they wouldn't as I've had the most ridiculous cramping. I feel like there's at least one good follicle on each ovary. I know there is definitely one on my right ovary. I just hope that my right tube is open!! :pray:

Bella29
January 27th, 2016, 08:43 AM
Girlieplease, I think that there are many ways to approach a man about a new baby. Honesty has always worked for me. I just told him how much my heart needs a fourth baby. I just want one so much. I want to complete my family. Even tho I am swaying for a little boy, I have made two such cute lovely girls so we will be happy with a third girl. Yes gender is important especially to all of us here, but so is having your family complete. My hubby is in a job that requires him to have lots of support. He has had to do lots of ongoing study and I have made his life easy inspite of all of that. I have pushed myself to make it easy for him, to take his burdens and make him happy. And you know what? I deserve the same from him. I am not his wench, I am his life partner and I expect the same dedication to fulfilling my dreams as I give him to fulfilling his. I am not second class, I am equal. When I started to step up into my own worth and say those words to him, he suddenly got it. Because he does love me, but it is so easy to take advantage of women's, socialisation to be 'good' and be easy companions and not ask or demand our needs be met. I lovingly and willingly support my husbands life goals and I expect the same in return. Motherhood may well be the most important thing I do in our lives and I believe it will reap as much joy for us as his money does for us. We are equal and we both matter. *steps off soap box*


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ksmom
January 27th, 2016, 09:23 AM
Purple I'm so excited for you to test! FX!!!

Good luck Pinkin and Kmomofthree! I hope to see BFPs from you ladies soon ;)

Nann I know what you mean. The TWW crawls by at snail's pace. FX for you this cycle :)

Sorry yarranabe. :( I've gotten evaps too and they suck. It's still early though.

Momamia I've got my fingers crossed for you!!

Pretty confident I ovulated yesterday CD19 which gives us an O-3 and O day attempt. A bit nervous about that but it's out of my hands now. :)

momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 11:50 AM
Just got back from my appointment. I had 6 follicles that were developing. There were 3 that were bigger than 8mm: 1 on the right was 14mm, one on the left was 19mm and another on the left was 9mm. They went ahead and gave me the trigger shot!!! :highfive: They said to dtd tonight and for the next 2 nights. I feel so hopeful this cycle!! :giggle: :cheerteam::bluecheer::cheer::bluecheer::cheer::ch eerteam: Good luck everyone! I am feeling so hopeful that we will see a lot of bfp's this month and next! :D

ksmom
January 27th, 2016, 12:25 PM
Great news Momamia! Best of luck :) Go catch that eggie!!! :cheer:

XXforhubby
January 27th, 2016, 12:43 PM
Good luck Momamia! Here is more of my blue baby dust for ya- [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]!!!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], & DS3[emoji602] completes our family [emoji170]!

essnce629
January 27th, 2016, 12:51 PM
Good luck Momamia!!! FX for you!

twointow83
January 27th, 2016, 02:05 PM
Just got back from my appointment. I had 6 follicles that were developing. There were 3 that were bigger than 8mm: 1 on the right was 14mm, one on the left was 19mm and another on the left was 9mm. They went ahead and gave me the trigger shot!!! :highfive: They said to dtd tonight and for the next 2 nights. I feel so hopeful this cycle!! :giggle: :cheerteam::bluecheer::cheer::bluecheer::cheer::ch eerteam: Good luck everyone! I am feeling so hopeful that we will see a lot of bfp's this month and next! :D

Wow! 6 follicles and 3 potential embies!! What are you taking? Just clomid and trigger, right? I'm a bit out of the loop, why did they start doing triggers? :fx:

maidentomother
January 27th, 2016, 02:21 PM
Honeybug, yes this is my first Clomid cycle, I took 50mg CD3-7, and I'm on CD12. I'm pretty sure I will O late bc my cervix isn't remotely fertile yet. I can't imagine I will get a positive OPK tomorrow! I'm sorry you have fatigue in Clomid too, are you on it this cycle?

Kmom, like purple said, FRERs are meant to be used no earlier than 8dpo, so yes they are assuming you have a 14 day LP.

Yarra, thank you and what brand HPT are you using?

Momamia, so jealous of your trigger shot! Good luck :)

maidentomother
January 27th, 2016, 02:27 PM
two, she didn't take her 5th Clomid dose due to intolerable side effects and she wasn't going to O on time so that's why she requested a trigger. Based on those follicles I would guess 1-2 of them will O in 2-3 days. 3 embies is pretty unlikely but you never know!

momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 03:44 PM
Wow! 6 follicles and 3 potential embies!! What are you taking? Just clomid and trigger, right? I'm a bit out of the loop, why did they start doing triggers? :fx:

Yes, just clomid and trigger. I actually requested the trigger this cycle. I tend to ovulate around cd20-22. Clomid only bumps it up to cd18. I wondered if my follicles are getting too big and so aren't very good quality, and if that was part of the reason why I wasn't getting preggo. I thought that the trigger would help my eggs to release while they are better quality. We'll see what happens this cycle! :D

Thanks maiden. I couldn't believe they actually gave it to me! On the phone, they kept acting like I didn't really need it. So, I am planning on taking full advantage of it. ;)

purple
January 27th, 2016, 05:24 PM
Purple I'm so excited for you to test! FX!!!

Good luck Pinkin and Kmomofthree! I hope to see BFPs from you ladies soon ;)

Nann I know what you mean. The TWW crawls by at snail's pace. FX for you this cycle :)

Sorry yarranabe. :( I've gotten evaps too and they suck. It's still early though.

Momamia I've got my fingers crossed for you!!

Pretty confident I ovulated yesterday CD19 which gives us an O-3 and O day attempt. A bit nervous about that but it's out of my hands now. :)
I have an O-3 and O attempt too this month. I don't feel that confident either but it could happen I guess.

momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 05:28 PM
ksmom and purple, I think those are great attempts! :D :fx:

purple
January 27th, 2016, 06:21 PM
Thanks, I did see someone post they had the same attempt timing to get their girl so it gives me some hope.

Magical22
January 27th, 2016, 06:24 PM
Yes, just clomid and trigger. I actually requested the trigger this cycle. I tend to ovulate around cd20-22. Clomid only bumps it up to cd18. I wondered if my follicles are getting too big and so aren't very good quality, and if that was part of the reason why I wasn't getting preggo. I thought that the trigger would help my eggs to release while they are better quality. We'll see what happens this cycle! :D

Thanks maiden. I couldn't believe they actually gave it to me! On the phone, they kept acting like I didn't really need it. So, I am planning on taking full advantage of it. ;)

I loved having the trigger shot when I was on clomid took all the stress out of pinpointing O. Good luck


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momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 06:30 PM
Purple, I've seen lots of people who had the same attempts and get their girl. I am so excited for you guys!! :)

Magical, that's why I'm so excited!!!! I also think that I don't normally have a very strong O, so I'm hoping this will be the magic bullet. :)

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pinkin2011
January 27th, 2016, 06:32 PM
Going to start testing tomorrow at 8dpo .. Changed my mind pretty fast ha ha

farmgirl33
January 27th, 2016, 08:12 PM
Purple & ksmom I conceived my last dd with 0-3, 0-2 & 0 so I think they are great attempts. That's why this month we decided to kick our attempts up a notch & dtd for 5 days straight this cycle, hopefully lots of boy swimmers there ready to catch the egg.

Pinkin - I'm 8 dpo today & I nearly tested this morning. Am trying to hold out till 10dpo but don't think I can. No real symptoms so not getting hopes up too much.


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pinkin2011
January 27th, 2016, 08:44 PM
I have no symptoms at all either only thing is this cm nearly every time i wipe its on the toilet paper the size of a 5 cent coin and its whiteish in colour..... could be nothing tho but I have def noticed it this cycle. I will be testing tomorrow because I just cant help myself plus id rather get a gradual bfn over a big shock bfn at 12/13 dpo

momamia4
January 27th, 2016, 10:28 PM
I'm having horrible lower back pain right now and I'm super nauseous. I also got my peak opk. So, hopefully I'll get a great big temp jump in the morning!! :) I do know that it can take up to 36 hours to actually O after a trigger shot. I'm just trying to be optimistic that it happens sooner. :D

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pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 01:05 AM
My boobs are starting to get sore :(

I really thought with my 7 days straight of dtd id have a pretty good chance but now I feel like it wont be my month

Honeybug
January 28th, 2016, 01:09 AM
Good luck purple, pinkin, farmgirl and all the ladies testing this week or next!

yarranabbe - you're not out until af shows up! Fx for you

momamia - That is AMAZING news!! Although I am sorry you are feeling ill hopefully it means you are just about to O!

Maiden - This is my third clomid cycle and so far so good -- lots of ovary activity :) Have you noticed any mood changes since starting clomid? DH is staying pretty clear of me this month....he says I'm acting like a bear

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 01:19 AM
Honeybug I did my second month of clomid and my husband couldn't even look at me I am 7dpo and still feel a bit crazy!!!! I am an angry woman lol I really hope o get off the stuff

farmgirl33
January 28th, 2016, 02:05 AM
Momamia- fx o is just around the corner.

Pinkin - don't give up hope yet. Lots of cm & sore boobs could be a good sign. Wow 7 days straight, well done!!! Keeping fx.

I have just had my first coffee for the day. It's 4pm here, normally I have a coffee in the morning as well but didn't feel like it this morning. I just thought it may have been because it is so humid here today. Anyway I drank my coffee & it tasted great but have been feeling queasy since. Really trying not to read too much into it.


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Girlieplease
January 28th, 2016, 02:58 AM
Thanks Bella and ksmom for advice, am so unsure what to do, my dh is open to having another baby it's just the gender swaying objective that he is concerned about
Momamia hope you catch that egg. Am not ttc this month but monitoring my cycles still, using clear blue fertility monitor, it asked for test stick at day 9 but I was half sleep and had already had a pee, so I ignored it and thought I will test the next day, cd10 it then never asked me for a test stick. I am currently cd12, usually o at day 13 - 15 and it is still not asking for a stick? Have I messed up this cycle by not testing cd9? X

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 04:35 AM
I will be testing in about 11 hrs !!! only 8dpo so I don't expect to get a bfp but I need to get the first test out of my system!!!

purple
January 28th, 2016, 06:48 AM
Good luck pinkin! 8dpo is early but if you can't resist then go for it :)

ksmom
January 28th, 2016, 09:05 AM
Good luck Pinkin!! You have a great shot at a BFP this cycle with all those attempts! :) FX

FF says I'm 3dpo today but I think I'm most likely 2dpo. Won't be able to test until around next Wed. or Thurs.

momamia4
January 28th, 2016, 11:17 AM
My boobs are starting to get sore :(

I really thought with my 7 days straight of dtd id have a pretty good chance but now I feel like it wont be my month

That could be a pregnancy sign too! I've definitely had that when I was preggo. It's frustrating that a lot of the pregnancy signs are also signs of af. :( Keep the faith, pinkin!! :D

momamia4
January 28th, 2016, 11:19 AM
Thanks Bella and ksmom for advice, am so unsure what to do, my dh is open to having another baby it's just the gender swaying objective that he is concerned about
Momamia hope you catch that egg. Am not ttc this month but monitoring my cycles still, using clear blue fertility monitor, it asked for test stick at day 9 but I was half sleep and had already had a pee, so I ignored it and thought I will test the next day, cd10 it then never asked me for a test stick. I am currently cd12, usually o at day 13 - 15 and it is still not asking for a stick? Have I messed up this cycle by not testing cd9? X

I think that you only have so many days that it will request a test stick, so you might have missed this cycle. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

momamia4
January 28th, 2016, 11:22 AM
I am having so much lower back pain today. It's ridiculous!!! I feel like I threw my back out even though all I did was go to sleep. I should O sometime today though. The 36 hour mark from when I got the trigger shot is in 11 hours. Do you think I should dtd before that or would it be fine to do it a little later than that? We usually dtd around 10pm, but the 36 hour mark is an hour before that. I could also dtd earlier today. Luckily DH is working from home today, so I have nonstop access. :rofl: What do you guys think?

ksmom
January 28th, 2016, 11:42 AM
Momamia I'd go ahead and DTD now so the swimmers have enough time to get up there so they're ready and waiting. Or you could DTD today AND tonight since you have an all access pass. He probably won't mind. ;)

essnce629
January 28th, 2016, 01:16 PM
You haven't BD yet Momamia??? I'd get on that asap!!! The best chance at getting pregnant is from BD'ing 1-2 days before O. It takes a while for the sperm to make their way to the fallopian tubes and you want them there and waiting way before the egg is released since the egg doesn't live very long. I'd BD right this second!

momamia4
January 28th, 2016, 01:41 PM
No, I have bd already. Every night for the last 4 nights actually. I was just curious what people thought about dtd today since I know I'm definitely going to O today. :)

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twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 02:17 PM
Uh... is there a threshold of spotting that makes it count as IB? I have tge teensiest-tiniest red spot on my undies with what looks like another small spot that has kinda been diluted or spead out by other CM... grand total we are talking about *maybe* a drop of blood. Been cramping more/again since last night and woke up to that. They are brand new, never been worn, so no chance it's a stain. Anybody know?

Btw, I have a pic but don't want to put it online. If interested in seeing for yourself just PM me and I will shoot it your way.

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maidentomother
January 28th, 2016, 03:54 PM
Honeybug, what dose of Clomid on what CDs? I haven't had any emotional/mental effects thank god, though I almost never do in response to hormones. I've never had even the slightest hint of PMS, etc. Fortunately since yesterday evening I've been much less tired, almost energetic feeling, and my ovaries hurt less. My cervix turned much more fertile overnight, but I still expect I will O a bit late as it's CD13 and no positive OPK so very unlikely I will O tomorrow. I might try to BD tonight in hopes I will O on CD15 or early CD16. Though I'm thinking I'll O around my normal time on CD17.

So Clomid makes you irritable/moody? I have heard many women report feeling similarly. *hugs*

Girlie, have you been careful to test during the brief (couple hours) window of time each day that the monitor accepts testing? If outside that window, it won't allow to insert a stick for reading. I really hated that aspect of the CBFM, thus why I greatly prefer the CB Advanced OPK.

All you ladies waiting to test, hang in there! Fx for you.

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 03:59 PM
My boobs are starting to get sore :(

I really thought with my 7 days straight of dtd id have a pretty good chance but now I feel like it wont be my month

Sore BBs don't knock you out :) They are a preg sign too. Don't give up yet.

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 04:04 PM
No, I have bd already. Every night for the last 4 nights actually. I was just curious what people thought about dtd today since I know I'm definitely going to O today. :)

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I'd go for it! :fx:

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 04:06 PM
I am so crampy only on left side I woke up with cramps this morning and they have not let up.

bfn 8dpo

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 04:13 PM
I am so crampy only on left side I woke up with cramps this morning and they have not let up.

bfn 8dpo

8 DPO is still early... you could be having implantation cramps now, or just recently implanted and not enough time for HCG to build. :fx:

ksmom
January 28th, 2016, 04:24 PM
Pinkin when I got my BFP in October I had the worst cramps ever at 7dpo. I think it's a promising sign! FX

momamia4
January 28th, 2016, 04:24 PM
So, I dtd a few hours ago. Hopefully we'll be able to bd again tonight. We'll see if dh is up for it. :giggle: He's getting a little exhausted from all the bding. HAHAHAHAHA!! What a problem to have, right? TBH, I'm super sick of it to. I really prefer the e3d method. It's much easier to maintain and not feel like we're over doing it.

Pinkin, I agree with Two. You're probably just implanting now, so you'll get a positive in a few days. :) :fx:

Honeybug, I always have lots of emotional/psychological side effects from clomid. It makes it really frustrating. I am constantly apologizing for being a giant a-hole. LOL! I tend to be either crying or biting everyone's head off. It's really annoying. I find it easier to spend more time by myself when I'm on clomid. That way I can't do/say anything that I'll regret while I'm on it. It's a really difficult process for me.

Yay, Two! That's a great sign! You could definitely be spotting because of implantation right now! :D :cheer::cheer::cheer:

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 05:17 PM
Yay, Two! That's a great sign! You could definitely be spotting because of implantation right now! :D :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Um, can you get IB the same day as a BFP? I took the last test about 2 hours ago and it's just starting to sink in that there might actually be a line there.. I mean I thought I saw a line... but I guess you could say I didn't want to believe it. Anyway, Can that happen? Like outside of twins, which I guess is possible as I've had plenty of cramping this cycle on BOTH sides, I started cramping 5 DPO, and then again last night and today (last night was 7 DPO, today is 8 DPO). But outside of that is IB possible the same day as or after a BFP?

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ksmom
January 28th, 2016, 05:23 PM
Oh my gosh Two I a see a line!! I think it's possible for IB to occur after a BFP since sometimes it can take a day or two to trickle out if that makes sense. Maybe you're a little further along in the TWW than you thought? I hope this is the start of your BFP!

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 05:36 PM
OMG!!! I SEE IT!!!! Do you have any frer???

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 05:39 PM
OMG!!! I SEE IT!!!! Do you have any frer???

Going to get some tonight for the AM.

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 05:41 PM
Those tests that you used are they more sensitive then frer?

maidentomother
January 28th, 2016, 05:46 PM
Two, I totally see that line. I think you did pop 2 eggs and one implanted really early, probably 6dpo, and the other implanted later when you saw the fresh blood. I bet that line will darken up really fast!

XXforhubby
January 28th, 2016, 05:57 PM
OMG!!!! I totally see a line!! I'm stalking for tomorrow!!!

Yay!!


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twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 06:05 PM
Those tests that you used are they more sensitive then frer?

I can't say 100% which is more sensitive but I have pics that show the development of the lines on both my ICs and FRER from my last preg...
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Kmomofthree
January 28th, 2016, 06:09 PM
Yay Two!!! I see that line :D:D

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 06:16 PM
I think the cheapies are a tad more sensitive

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 06:18 PM
pinkin- you almost can't see the lines on either but these are a side by side of them with HCG @ LESS than 13 with DD.

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twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 06:20 PM
Two, I totally see that line. I think you did pop 2 eggs and one implanted really early, probably 6dpo, and the other implanted later when you saw the fresh blood. I bet that line will darken up really fast!

I am hoping line darkens fast... it might help relieve a bit of my anxiety that it's going to end up a CP or something. And of course twins would be more than welcomed :)

pinkin2011
January 28th, 2016, 06:22 PM
I couldn't get the picture to load two??

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 06:30 PM
I couldn't get the picture to load two??

I saw that and fixed it as you were posting this ;) It should be there now.

Girlieplease
January 28th, 2016, 07:19 PM
Two I see a line, this is exciting, totally living my desire to conceive vicariously through you guys!
Maiden I have always been careful to test within the window on the monitor, I just missed a test as I had already had a pee and thought will test next day instead and then it never asked, ah well. Good luck to those bding and those testing, everything crosser for you, when you testing two? X

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 08:26 PM
Two I see a line, this is exciting, totally living my desire to conceive vicariously through you guys!
Maiden I have always been careful to test within the window on the monitor, I just missed a test as I had already had a pee and thought will test next day instead and then it never asked, ah well. Good luck to those bding and those testing, everything crosser for you, when you testing two? X

Testing again in the AM. May not be able to post until after I get off work though.

ksmom
January 28th, 2016, 08:28 PM
Can't wait to see your next test Two! :fingers:

tfahn
January 28th, 2016, 10:16 PM
I totally see a line two! Congrats, hope you get some sticky rainbow babies!

tfahn
January 28th, 2016, 10:21 PM
CD13 today and the OPK's finally seem to be darkening some. Fingers crossed I get a positive soon, it would be nice to O on the early this cycle.

twointow83
January 28th, 2016, 10:22 PM
CD13 today and the OPK's finally seem to be darkening some. Fingers crossed I get a positive soon, it would be nice to O on the early this cycle.
:fx: you o soon and catch the egg :)

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