Jan 2016 TTC / Testing - New Year BFPs!

[purple]

Time for the January TTC / TWW thread!

Jan Testing

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9 - Nann3r
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13 - Ttc2015
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16 - maidentomother
17 - Gagirl0221
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20 - essnce629
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25 - purple
26 - farmgirl33
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29 - Kmomofthree
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31 - pinkin2011

[purple]

Let me know your estimated test days and I can update the opening post. Mine is just a guess for now, I have no idea when I will even ovulate :)

[essnce629]

I should O around Jan 9th and then test at 11dpo which would be Jan 20th.

[Nann3r]

I'll test 12dpo on January 9th! I'm 2dpo today :)

[Kmomofthree]

I will probably test around the 29th! Gosh, my attempt feels so close (19th-ish) but the 29th sure doesn't! Hah

[Nann3r]

I secretly hope I'm the first bfp of the new year :p

[essnce629]

Fingers crossed for you Nann!!!!

[farmgirl33]

Just popped in to update you all. AF showed up this afternoon, so at least now I can get this next cycle started. At least I get another try at more attempts this time, wasn't 100% happy with our attempts last time. Test date will probably be around the 26th. That's DH's birthday, would be nice to get a bfp that day lol.

Keeping fx for you Nann.


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[ksmom]

I'm 8dpo today so I guess I'll test tomorrow on January 1st. That's probably too early but I can't help myself. lol

Good luck to all of you ladies! I hope to see a bunch of BFPs in January!!!

[ksmom]

So sorry Farmgirl! FX this is your month! :)

[2xblue]

So sorry farmgirl! Hopefully you will get bfp this cycle!

Ksmom, exciting! Can't wait for your tomorrow's test! Fx!

Good luck to everyone of you!

[Nann3r]

I got crosshairs today! :) exciting

[Ttc2015]

Hi everyone! Sorry I haven't been keeping up with everyone's news in the December thread, I've been offline for a while. I'm finding this a lot harder emotionally than I expected. Joining this thread. I had my positive opk yesterday morning so we had our attempt last night. I hate this waiting I am so impatient! I will probably test in 2 weeks, if I can last that long, so maybe the 13th?
I hope everyone has a lovely new year and we get lots of bfps in 2016! X

[tfahn]

Today is CD6 for me but my first month taking Clomid (days3-7) so I am totally guessing on a ovulation date of around Jan 9 and will test at 10 DPO on Jan 19.

Good luck everyone, hopefully the January board will be just as successful as the December one, so many BFP's this month! :)

[Kmomofthree]

Today is CD6 for me but my first month taking Clomid (days3-7) so I am totally guessing on a ovulation date of around Jan 9 and will test at 10 DPO on Jan 19.

Good luck everyone, hopefully the January board will be just as successful as the December one, so many BFP's this month! :)

Are you taking clomid for swaying or medical purposes?

[tfahn]

I am taking it for medical purposes. I am 39 and going into my 10th month of trying, they are hoping it helps my egg quality.

[pinkin2011]

I am still here girls.... 11dpo I have not bothered to test anymore. I have major period pains feels like its on its way for sure. I just want it to hurry up and come so I can start my next cycle. Good luck to everyone xo

[Nann3r]

Hang in there pinkin. It's not over till AF comes around!

[pinkin2011]

Thanks nann.

the ladies that are doing or have done e4d. Do you count the day of release as day 1 or 24 hrs after is one day? Just a bit confused

[2xblue]

Ttc, big hugs. It is quite difficult emotionally. I really hope this is your cycle! Hang in there and FX!

Pinkin, I really hope you could still get your bfp. Like Nann said it's not over until af arrives.

[essnce629]

So sorry farmgirl. I hope your BFP is just around the corner. FX for you!

[Pbn3]

Sorry to hear farmgirl :( hope you get your sticky bfp this cycle

[Pbn3]

I'm 8dpo today so I guess I'll test tomorrow on January 1st. That's probably too early but I can't help myself. lol

Good luck to all of you ladies! I hope to see a bunch of BFPs in January!!!
Fx ksmom!! Cant wait for your update!

[Nann3r]

Ladies I have a trivial last minute question so please answer quickly! 3dpo.. So the egg isn't attached yet.. Can I drink?? Since we don't share a blood******? Aka the saying drink till its pink.. Can I drink and enjoy my new year? Or should I abstain. :( please lemme know ASAP! I'm out with hubby on his birthday..

[Pbn3]

Nann its each to their own. I personally think a one or two drinkies is fine at 3dpo. But that's me, its whatever you feel comfortable with :)

[Blue Bear]

Hi Ladies! I've been swaying since December of last year and no successful pregnancy this year. Hoping 2016 is a better year for us! Please put me down for testing around January 28. I followed your Dec post as I was testing as well but got a bfn first round trying again after our second loss.

[XXforhubby]

Thanks nann.

the ladies that are doing or have done e4d. Do you count the day of release as day 1 or 24 hrs after is one day? Just a bit confused

Day of release is day one. You want to have three days in between. So day 1- release, then day 2, day three, day 4, then day 5- attempt.


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[XXforhubby]

Ladies I have a trivial last minute question so please answer quickly! 3dpo.. So the egg isn't attached yet.. Can I drink?? Since we don't share a blood******? Aka the saying drink till its pink.. Can I drink and enjoy my new year? Or should I abstain. :( please lemme know ASAP! I'm out with hubby on his birthday..

Go for it! I wouldn't get wasted but a drink or two or three will be fine. Enjoy!


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[tfahn]

Good luck Blue Bear. I have a DD born 12/2013 and having also been trying for 10 months hoping for a boy.

[XXforhubby]

Hi Ladies! I've been swaying since December of last year and no successful pregnancy this year. Hoping 2016 is a better year for us! Please put me down for testing around January 28. I followed your Dec post as I was testing as well but got a bfn first round trying again after our second loss.

Welcome! I'm so sorry for your loss [emoji20]. I hope you get your much awaited BFP soon! Are you swaying pink or blue?

FX and GL to you!!


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[Blue Bear]

Thanks for your encouragement! Hoping for blue. :)

[Blue Bear]

tfahn - I think I read in one of the 2 ww that you are 39 - I'm 35. I was stuck on the Shettle's method for the first 6 months or so, and I think that is what held us up on getting pregnant first part of the year. Wish I would've listened to Atomic's advice sooner - ha! The Shettle's book was so convincing - and of course my friend who I lent the book to got pregnant with a boy with that approach. Guessing it was just random. I have started doing acupuncture since my last miscarriage so am hoping that boosts my egg quality and encourages a sticky bean!

[Nann3r]

Thanks everyone! I don't drink much anyways. 1-3 at most so I think I'll just enjoy my couple of ciders tonight :)

[ksmom]

Happy New Year ladies!

Welcome Blue Bear! Tons of blue sticky dust to you!!

BFN at 9dpo today. I'm hoping it's just too early but it still bums me out getting a negative.

[Magical22]

Happy new year and good luck for this month ladies. [emoji322]


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[Quinn31]

Hi everyone!! Love seeing this board, a new month, new year, new chances. I just feel more hopeful. Good luck to everyone waiting to test.

Ttc2015 and Blue Bear I feel you on this long and emotional journey. I'm swaying boy and have egg quality issues as well. My last u/s with the RE was actually depressing as I only have 6 potential eggs and those will all not grow. With my last dd I had 3 good follicles at O time and had only one baby so I'm very worried about this time.

I've also been doing acupuncture and had a chemical pregnancy last month after going to my first couple sessions. I really feel like it's been helping even though dh thinks it's weird. I've also started fertility yoga and raspberry leaf tea. Last month's drawn out chemical sucked so I'm nervous but hopefully January is good to us!!

Anyone else doing different things to help with fertility? I'm trying to remember to have positive thoughts and say positive affirmations. My diet and exercise has been sooooo off track lately. I've consumed pounds of sugar I think. Okay this was long winded, just happy for the new start. :)


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[Blue Bear]

Quinn31 - seems a lot of us are in the same boat! How old are you? What does RE mean? What are the ages of your current DD(s)? Would be amazing to be due date buddies end of this year or early next year for sure. Don't lose hope over the chemical. Plus, I've read so many amazing stories online of women having success getting pregnant with acupuncture as well in their 40s. Are you going 1x per week? I am also doing wheatgrass - powder form right now - especially from Af to O and preseed did seem to help us get pregnant. More than anything it seems like the more attempts I've had at 0, the higher chances of getting pregnant this past year. (Sorry girl swayers - I know this is opposite of what you are doing!)

[XXforhubby]

Quinn31 - seems a lot of us are in the same boat! How old are you? What does RE mean? What are the ages of your current DD(s)? Would be amazing to be due date buddies end of this year or early next year for sure. Don't lose hope over the chemical. Plus, I've read so many amazing stories online of women having success getting pregnant with acupuncture as well in their 40s. Are you going 1x per week? I am also doing wheatgrass - powder form right now - especially from Af to O and preseed did seem to help us get pregnant. More than anything it seems like the more attempts I've had at 0, the higher chances of getting pregnant this past year. (Sorry girl swayers - I know this is opposite of what you are doing!)

RE: Reproductive Endocronologist- a doctor that specializes with infertility.


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[tfahn]

tfahn - I think I read in one of the 2 ww that you are 39 - I'm 35. I was stuck on the Shettle's method for the first 6 months or so, and I think that is what held us up on getting pregnant first part of the year. Wish I would've listened to Atomic's advice sooner - ha! The Shettle's book was so convincing - and of course my friend who I lent the book to got pregnant with a boy with that approach. Guessing it was just random. I have started doing acupuncture since my last miscarriage so am hoping that boosts my egg quality and encourages a sticky bean!

Yes, I am 39 and would love one more baby to give Dd#1 a sibling. I have been trying Atomic methods for the last 9 months, just waiting to catch a good egg I guess. I even bought one of the personalized plans to help out. Started seeing a RE 2 months ago, so far all my numbers look good, estrogen was a little low so I started Clomid this month to help improve egg quality hopefully.

I am doing wheat grass pills , try to do a glass of lemon water everyday, and use preseed on my multiple attempts around O. Just waiting for Goldie the egg!

[Ttc2015]

Sorry to hear about your chemical Quinn. Lovely message though, you are right, a new year and a new start. Here's to having our dreams come true in 2016.

Nann we seem to be almost exactly following the same cycles!! We had our attempt 2 days ago on Wednesday. Do you know the moon phase thing for the 30th?!

Ksmom, it's still too early so fingers crossed! I'm rubbish at waiting, but the early testing can be so disappointing when there is absolutely no sign.

It feels like it's taken years to get to this stage! I know girl swaying is supposed to make conception harder and this is only our 3rd cycle of trying (after almost 2 years of planning our HT attempt which failed in April, and starting diet/exercise etc last summer) and I now realise how very lucky I was to fall pregnant with my boys so quickly. I'm worrying a wee bit that after failed IVF something might be up with my fertility. Ive gone from thinking our next (and last) child HAD to be a girl, to just hoping it will be a girl, to just wanting to get pregnant with a happy healthy baby now. I've loosened up on the diet and supplements, if it doesn't work this cycle I think I will stop swaying altogether and just try my hardest to fall pregnant. I feel like time is running out. Oh and I just found out my SIL is pregnant with number 2. Happy for them but I just know it will be a girl. Everyone around me is pregnant at the moment!!!

[Nann3r]

I'd have to look it up! :) yeah I'm currently sitting at 5dpo!

[Nann3r]

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Here is the moon phase for Dec 30.. But I used central time zone! Not sure what time zone you're in!

[Nann3r]

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Here is my calculated O date! Dec 28th! I hope this helps in my favor!! I also read an article someone posted on our Facebook group about Feng Shui and gender(: kind of a fun read. And good to know if that stuff interests you!

[Ttc2015]

Thanks Nann! I'm in the UK so think that's the same time zone?!!! So does 30th moon phase favour girl?!!! I'm the biggest sceptic, but it's fun to look, can do no harm :)

[Nann3r]

What's your technical time zone?? I'll check for you!

[Nann3r]

Like mine is central time zone. So I'm pretty sure yours is different.

[Ttc2015]

Errrrrr GMT?!

[Nann3r]

Hmm so maybe it is the same?? It's 4:30pm where I am!

[Ttc2015]

Nope, 10.30 pm here! Sorry, I don't know the technical time but uk/London is just GMT - I see your is GMT -6 hours (or central zone?!) feel a bit thick now!

[Nann3r]

Okay I found you :)

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My time zone moon says girl but London time zone says boy... Lame! Maybe my moon phase will alter your outcome :) if you put money into moon signs anyways ;)

[Quinn31]

Quinn31 - seems a lot of us are in the same boat! How old are you? What does RE mean? What are the ages of your current DD(s)? Would be amazing to be due date buddies end of this year or early next year for sure. Don't lose hope over the chemical. Plus, I've read so many amazing stories online of women having success getting pregnant with acupuncture as well in their 40s. Are you going 1x per week? I am also doing wheatgrass - powder form right now - especially from Af to O and preseed did seem to help us get pregnant. More than anything it seems like the more attempts I've had at 0, the higher chances of getting pregnant this past year. (Sorry girl swayers - I know this is opposite of what you are doing!)

I'll be 34 this month but I'm apparently prematurely running out of eggs or something.

I've also been taking wheat grass and just increased my coq10. I'm going acupuncture once a week and just had the actual fertility session done (the rest were balancing my energy, haha) and it was weird! She put the needles in my feet and toes and my ovaries and then connected them to some wire which sent impulses. I'm hoping that since I had the cp after starting acupuncture maybe it is helping and now I just need some good eggs. We're also doing multiple attempts and even will dtd 36 and 24 hours before my IUI which is the pattern we did when we got pregnant with dd2.

Yoga and raspberry tea may have helped me too. I love the yoga! It's simple stretches and it feels soooo good on my body. I just looked on YouTube for fertility yoga.


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[Blue Bear]

Looks like you are being really proactive, Quinn31. Hoping this next cycle is a sticky bean for you!!

[Nann3r]

This is very off the subject.. (Leave it to me to ask non-ttc related questions..) but for all you mommas out there..

DD received vaccines on wedensday at 10:00am.. She's had a fever of 102-103 since. Tried to keep it at bay with tylenol every 4 hours. Tylenol helps.. Gets it to 99-100.. But it's now 8:45pm Friday night and her temp got up to 104.. Gave another dose of Tylenol.. She's had about 4 oz of formula, a banana, and 2oz of oatmeal all day. Maybe a handful of puffs..
:( she's just so lethargic. Is this normal??? I hate this:( she my first obviously so I panic more than I should I'm sure. And I'm aware this maybe isn't the place to ask these questions.. But I feel I'm friends with you all:) and it also passes the time as I sit and wait for her to get better!! Lol.

[pinkin2011]

Hi Purple. Can you please add me for testing on the 31st of January. Thanks!

[Quinn31]

Nann I would take her in to urgent care tomorrow. It may be just a coincidence that she has the fever near the time of vaccinations and they may be able to help. My Dr always said if it doesn't go away in 48 hours to call again. Both my girls had fevers right before Christmas and so did a lot of other kids at their daycare.


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[Nann3r]

Thank you! Yeah it goes down with meds but shoots right back up again when they wear off. She's been on Tylenol every 4 hours since wedensday now :(

[farmgirl33]

Nann - fevers can be due to vaccines. I know with my eldest when she had her 4 mth needles she had a fever & slept a lot more, but only for a day or so. If you're still worried in the morning it wouldn't hurt to get her looked at by a dr in case it's something else & it will put your mind at ease.

Quinn - fx this cycle ends in a bfp for you. I have heard good things about acupuncture.

I am on cd3 today. Woke at 3am with some pretty bad cramps. I haven't had period pain for a couple of years since seeing my naturopath so I'm not used to it. Was also a lot heavier last night too. I was sort of expecting it though as I googled chemical pregnancy & read that it can be heavier & more cramps. Cramping has eased off since then at least.


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[Ttc2015]

Nann I would definitely take her to the dr if anything just for peace of mind. Thanks for moon sign thing, it silly and just a bit of fun! Is it not still a girl sign on the one for my time zone?

Those swaying pink - do you keep the exercise up in the 2ww? I have been and am wondering if it's affecting chances of conceiving, but don't think it could?!!

[purple]

Ttc2015 I think you are supposed to keep exercising in the tww. Are you doing 60 mins of cardio? I don't do this as I really don't have time to fit in all that exercise when working full time. I'm not couch potato either as I have to do some exercise for my mental health and also as I have pcos so it helps lower blood sugar or something.

Nann - I hope your DDs temps drop soon. Mine have only had short reactions to vaccinations. Which did she get? The vax schedule must be different where you live. Here they get them at 2, 4, 6, 12 and 18 months and then 4 years.

[maidentomother]

Put me down for Jan 16th. I Oed yesterday on Jan 1st my natural LP is max 11 days but I was on Gonal-F injections this cycle so may have an extended LP. I probably won't test until 15DPO bc my chances this month are very low - only BDed (successfully, prior attempts he failed to finish) once 6+ hours after O. :( Both of us have been feeling bad lately and I have yet to recover much from over 6 months of severe Lyme's Disease.

I'm much more hopeful for the next 3 cycles!

[ksmom]

Best of luck this cycle Quinn! I hope you get a BFP soon :)

Farmgirl, so sorry about your chemical. I had one in Oct and again Dec. Both times the bleeding was heavy and the cramps were quite painful which I don't get normally. FX you get a sticky BFP soon.

TTC2015, you're supposed to keep up the exercise even in the TWW otherwise you're just doing two weeks on, two weeks off. It shouldn't affect conception chances. I've conceived twice so far while doing the cardio. Granted they weren't sticky but still lots of ladies here get preggo doing the exercise. I see it as a good thing because it increases blood flow.

Good luck Maiden! Hope this is your month!

BFN at 10 dpo. Pretty confident I'm out as the last three times I was pregnant I got a BFP at this point. It sucks because DH is going back to weight lifting and isn't eating veggie anymore. I know what he does isn't as important but he'd been veggie since August and gave up building muscle for our sway. It made me feel a little better about our chances for pink.

[Nann3r]

Thanks everyone!! She had a rough night so we are watching her today. She had a booster for the first 3.. HIB, pneumococcal, and polio I think??? All the names confuse me lol.. And we are off schedule. She's 9 months but I pushed then back. Then she got sick before another set so we are way behind lol

Ttc2015 Dec 30 is a girl sign for some time zones and a boy sign for others! It's half and half!

I'm 5dpo now! This is taking forever!!!

[XXforhubby]

Put me down for Jan 16th. I Oed yesterday on Jan 1st my natural LP is max 11 days but I was on Gonal-F injections this cycle so may have an extended LP. I probably won't test until 15DPO bc my chances this month are very low - only BDed (successfully, prior attempts he failed to finish) once 6+ hours after O. :( Both of us have been feeling bad lately and I have yet to recover much from over 6 months of severe Lyme's Disease.

I'm much more hopeful for the next 3 cycles!

Good to hear from you Maiden!!! I'm sending you tons of baby dust [emoji597][emoji597][emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]!!

I hope you recover from LD soon! I know this may sound strange but if you have a reliable Veterinarian in your area, discuss your treatment regimen with them. We are so good at treating the disease in animals and he/she can provide insight into your treatment regimen. We have even caught the disease in someone before they were treated!

SN: we may be TTCing in April/May. I'll probably start to become more strict on the diet/exercise by April. I'll still be breastfeeding. I eat LE foods and only have one snack a day- usually a free veggie. I do eat a third meal so I eat in the morning but usually after I've been up for an hour or two (12-13 hour fast as opposed to 14-16). We go back and forth whether we want a 4th, which leads me to believe we will have one [emoji6]. That's the way we are [emoji38]!


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[ksmom]

Nann sometimes when the kiddos get multiple vaccines at once they get a fever. DS1 got three or four at once as a baby and spiked a fever of 105. I hope your DD is doing better. Not much longer until you test! Good luck!

[Nann3r]

Nann sometimes when the kiddos get multiple vaccines at once they get a fever. DS1 got three or four at once as a baby and spiked a fever of 105. I hope your DD is doing better. Not much longer until you test! Good luck!

Yeah I'm not as worried today. She's still medicated but seems in better spirits! Yes 7 days till I test! :) I just wanna know!

[maidentomother]

Farmgirl, so sorry about your CP. I hope it at least increases your fertility this cycle as theorized.

Nann, I hope DD feels better soon.

tfahn, good luck with the Clomid, I've seen it do the trickon the first try for many ladies.

ksmom, thanks! I think you may have Oed as late as CD25, and I don't think you Oed earlier than CD23 so you are likely at least 1 day less DPO.

TTC2015, you Oed one day before me. We're almost cycle buddies.

XX, thanks for your lovely comment, I pmed you. :)

[Nann3r]

Ksmom I would get too discouraged yet! 10dpo is still early and I've read many women don't get bfp till 12+ dpo! :) even though their other pregnancies they got a bfp sooner! Hang in there!

[ksmom]

Maiden I hope I didn't O as late as CD25 because that would give us an O-5 attempt which really cuts odds of conception. :( Is it just based on temps you think I ovulated that late? I'm thinking that O may have been on CD23 which agrees with what Ovusoft says. At least it gives me a little hope if I'm only 9 dpo instead of 10. :)

[Blue Bear]

Hi ladies - particularly blue swayers. Is there a certain brand of Coq10 or folic acid that you are taking? I'm using rainbow light for my multi and DHA. Thanks!!!

[Pbn3]

Just wanted to duck in and say a huge hello maiden and its wonderful to see you back!! :) We missed you! Did you get everything you wanted done on the house? I'm sure thats kept you very busy!

Sorry to hear you've had a hard time health wise the last 6 months :( and I hope the next few months (really hoping this month) brings you your bfp! Will be stalking regardless!

[2xblue]

Ttc, keep up with the cardio in the 2ww. I did with all cycles ttc and now I just got my bfp :)

Ksmom, hopefully it's just early!

[Quinn31]

Blue Bear, I just use my local store brand. I'm sure there are much better ones but they're expensive. Especially coq10.

After I initially had my chemical, I felt it was a good sign I could get pregnant but now I'm getting those feelings of worry again. It was pretty tough to have a bfp for almost a week before my betas confirmed it would be a chemical. Then I had to wait days to start af again. It just felt like a bunch of time wasted. Okay back to my positive affirmations and visualization! ;)


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[Ttc2015]

Hi purple, yes exercise is probably the only sway element I've stuck with by the book and am being v strict with. At least an hour cardio about 5 times a week. I've run almost 50k this week and was just wondering if you could over exercise or if too much could affect chances of conceiving?

[TaytumJ]

Farmgirl, so sorry about your CP. I hope it at least increases your fertility this cycle as theorized.

Nann, I hope DD feels better soon.

tfahn, good luck with the Clomid, I've seen it do the trickon the first try for many ladies.

ksmom, thanks! I think you may have Oed as late as CD25, and I don't think you Oed earlier than CD23 so you are likely at least 1 day less DPO.

TTC2015, you Oed one day before me. We're almost cycle buddies.

XX, thanks for your lovely comment, I pmed you. :)

Just popping on to say I'm so happy to see you maiden!! I was thinking about you the other day and wondering how you were doing. I'm so happy to follow your journey again - lots of FX and positive thoughts on a BFP!


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[Nann3r]

Taytum don't you find out gender this week?!

[ksmom]

Ttc, I think the only way overexercising could cause you to stop ovulating/reduce conception odds is if you lose too much weight or your net calories are too low. I stopped ovulating after introducing exercise so I reduced it from 5-6 days/week to 4 plus I upped my cals a bit.

[purple]

Hey welcome back maiden :) I was wondering if you would be back from your break soon. Unfortunately I'm still here ttc. I hope you aren't here for long and get a bfp soon! :)

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[Ttc2015]

Thanks ksmom, I just suddenly wondered if pushing myself so hard and all that jigging up and down would affect the egg fertilising or sticking! Silly I know.

[ksmom]

LOL Ttc I get what you mean. At 3 dpo DH sent me to the salon for some pampering but the massage chair I was in jostled me around so much it made me think it would knock something loose. :giggle:

[tfahn]

Hi ladies - particularly blue swayers. Is there a certain brand of Coq10 or folic acid that you are taking? I'm using rainbow light for my multi and DHA. Thanks!!!

I use Sulgar Folate 800mg for my folic acid since it is the more natural form of folic acid and get it on Amazon.

I use Now brand CoQ10 from Amazon

[Blue Bear]

Quinn31 I know exactly what you are talking about - I've definitely had my ups and downs the last 6 months but still hopeful for this year. Honestly, with my two losses this year, I just wanted New Year's Eve to be over - time to look ahead to another year! One thing to think about...My acupuncturist has me picture my uterus as a healthy place for the baby to live in - that's a pretty neat visual cue to focus on during my sessions and I'm sure you could do anytime.

[maidentomother]

Pbn3, I highly doubt I will conceive this month but you never know! I've been too sick to do much, but I did rescue a kitten 6w ago. Unfortunately my 6 year old cat is NOT a fan. I split my time between them.

The septic tank for the new house is done so hoping building starts soon. It's ridiculous the red tape over here! I'm also trying to build a stable (to store hay, my tractor & attachments, and a cow one day - I have 2 horses and 16 sheep, the latter 100% free range grass/hay fed). and have been for years, it is a bureaucratic nightmare as well. Good news is I've been buying up the surrounding land so I have plenty of pasture finally. I go through so much hay!

Ttc, exercise is great for conception/pregnancy (my mom was a prenatal exercise expert snd super active with all her pregnancies & her whole life). It boosts overall health and improves circulation throughout your body. We would never have survived as a species if exercise inhibited reproduction! Just don't get too thin as ksmom pointed out.

Taytum, thanks! Congrats on your BFP and omg, how do you not know gender yet!? Are you team green?

purple, thank you and boooo to you still TTC. I understand though, it's been over 4 years since I started TTC and no BFP in almost as long. I hope we both get lucky again SOON.

[ksmom]

BFN again. Boo. I think we may have to do E4D next cycle since I may have o'ed too late after my pos opk for us to have conceived. DH would certainly appreciated DTD more often! lol It's just hard to go from one attempt at pos opk to e4d with my libido being so low while swaying.

[maidentomother]

Ksmom, it's still early! And I have conceived from 6+ days before O several times, so don't count yourself out yet.

I think every 4 days (or a version of it) sounds like a great plan. You could just BD twice, first as soon as you get a positive OPK, then a second time 4 days after. It is very unlikely you would O more than 5 days after your first positive. I feel you on the low libido! The other day was my first sexytime in over 6 months. Though this cycle the FSH injections made me super horny the day before and of O.

I do think every 4 days all cycle long is ideal if possible, especially in terms of optimizing sperm health/count, but any extra BDing beyond one attempt helps.

[ksmom]

DTD at positive OPK then again 4 days later sounds like a good idea if E4D all cycle doesn't work out. I'm going to *try* to stick with E4D after AF is over with and see how that goes. Is E4D still just as pink friendly as the one attempt at pos. OPK? I guess I'm just paranoid about ending up with an O-4 and an O day attempt. Two cycles ago we conceived with an O-3 attempt so I feel like O-4 is still a possibility.

I'm wondering if my O got delayed a little bit this cycle because a few days before my first pos. OPK I took ibuprofen a few times due to a really bad sore throat. I've heard about it delaying ovulation but I don't know if it needs to be in large amounts for it to do that. I didn't even think about it at the time because CD20 is early for me to get a pos. OPK.

[TaytumJ]

Not finding out - team green! But, anatomy scan Tuesday so maybe I'll catch a peek. [emoji6]


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[Magical22]

Does anyone know any way of thickening the uterus lining? I'm currently taking flaxseed oil tablets.




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[maidentomother]

One attempt is probably still the strongest BD tactic, but I believe E4D isn't far behind and it does definitely improve odds of conception without swaying blue.

I think if you only took the ibuprofen AFTER your positive OPK, it is unlikely it delayed O. Much more likely is that the illness itself delayed O.

I've had some crazy strong intermittent ovarian pain on both sides starting a few hours ago, plus uterine cramping and what I can only describe as cervical pain. I had the last 2 symptoms for multiple days on my last few FSH injection days/right after. Never felt anything quite like the cervical pain and these weird ovarian pains tonight though . I'm only 2DPO...maybe it's my tubes I'm feeling, not ovaries? Or maybe I popped more eggs? I had 4 big follicles...I wish I could see inside!

[signingmommyfor3]

This last cycle I took pineapple with core from 2dpo till 7dpo to help thicken lining.

[Magical22]

This last cycle I took pineapple with core from 2dpo till 7dpo to help thicken lining.

Thank you, apparently I have bad/thin lining last time and with my next FET in March I want to help it anyway I can.


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[Gagirl0221]

Hi Ladies! I wish everyone good luck with BFP. I will test on Jan 17th. I am needing all the blue dust to come my way if the lil bean sticks. This will be our 4th and our last try for a BOY.

[Magical22]

Hi Ladies! I wish everyone good luck with BFP. I will test on Jan 17th. I am needing all the blue dust to come my way if the lil bean sticks. This will be our 4th and our last try for a BOY.

Take my blue dust!!!!


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[XXforhubby]

Hi Ladies! I wish everyone good luck with BFP. I will test on Jan 17th. I am needing all the blue dust to come my way if the lil bean sticks. This will be our 4th and our last try for a BOY.

Awe! Boy swayers have a special place in my heart! I too always wanted a boy (I have been blessed with three [emoji4]). I will gladly give you my blue baby dust- it's the super snuggly with mama and rambunctious kind [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170]

[maidentomother]

Magical, how about Red Raspberry Leaf tea? That is the best herbal remedy I know of though it's not super strong or effective for everyone. I think pineapple core aka bromelain doesn't actually help with lining, it helps with implantation via another method to my knowledge, maybe increased blood flow? I'll check.

Estrogen supplements and/or post O HCG shots are the most effective treatments to thicken lining.

[Nann3r]

7dpo tomorrow.. I know it's so early but I will probably test anyways :p just not getting my hopes up yet for a bfp that early! But why not :) we'll see

[Magical22]

Magical, how about Red Raspberry Leaf tea? That is the best herbal remedy I know of though it's not super strong or effective for everyone. I think pineapple core aka bromelain doesn't actually help with lining, it helps with implantation via another method to my knowledge, maybe increased blood flow? I'll check.

Estrogen supplements and/or post O HCG shots are the most effective treatments to thicken lining.

Ok thanks I have some of that! [emoji5][emoji106]🏼


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[ksmom]

11 or 12 dpo today and BFN. My temp had been dropping but it went up slightly today. I've been really crampy the past few days so I'm expecting AF soon.

Gagirl, please take all my blue dust! Good luck, I hope you get a sticky BLUE bean this month. :)

[maidentomother]

ksmom, that's hardly a temp drop. I still think you have a good chance.

[ksmom]

I know it's still well above my cover line but I guess I'm just trying to prepare myself in case I'm not pregnant so I'm not so terribly disappointed. Just don't want to get my hopes up. It would be surprising if I got pregnant for a third cycle in a row! lol

[tfahn]

Anyone on here take Clomid before? Just wondering how many days after taking the last pill you started to test with OPK strips. Took my last pill on the evening of CD7 and got very positive OPK's on CD9 and again today at CD10. From what I read they can be a false positive for a few days after stopping Clomid so just wondering when the results would be accurate.

[maidentomother]

Starting CD11 :)

[Quinn31]

Magical I've heard acupuncture helps. Is that a possibility for you?

Did anyone else fall off the diet wagon?! I'm swaying blue so I know I have more leniency but I must have eaten gallons of sugar. I didn't eat very nutritious at all which I think is important for blue. I did force myself to eat beef occasionally. I am really not into meat. I much prefer the side dishes and cookies, hence my two girls!!


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[Blue Bear]

Nann3 - may be too early to test - pregnancies last year didn't read positive until days 10 and 11. Just don't want you to feel disappointed for no need!

Quinn31 - I'm trying to eat my 2 eggs/day and my V8 with wheatgrass (plus cereal before bed) so that alone is making me feel like I'm eating healthy - ha! After the holidays I have tried to cut back on cookies and eat things like dark choc. I try to eat beef every other day at least, too....

[Quinn31]

Ugh I skipped my eggs a lot. I did keep up with my drinks, nuts, and oatmeal. I want my bfp so bad after the chemical last month but I'm scared because of my poor diet.


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[Nann3r]

I was bad with sugar too... I'm just banking on the theory that higher blood glucose levels favors boy! BUT I did good over the holidays with meat and potatoes :) don't normally have them so I had like two weeks of extreme hardy boy diet.. With sugar from desserts mixed in there :p I'm kinda glad my last cycle lasted 35 days cuz it pushed THIS cycle's ovulation all the way back to after Christmas! So I got all those good heavy hardy calories in before/during my attempt!

[ksmom]

Blue swayers, please don't feel like you can't get a boy eating sweets! With DS1 I had been eating things like cake and cookies fairly often because baking is my hobby. Same with DS2 I was eating dessert pretty much every night. I think the part of my diet that was blue friendly was how much I snacked and I ate quite a bit of fat and protein.

[Quinn31]

That's good to hear. I did snack a lot and hopefully got enough protein. I kept lifting weights for the most part too. I want this part to be over!! I've been swaying since July and it sucks.


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[XXforhubby]

Blue swayers take comfort! It's keeping your blood sugar high and stable that counts! Having sweets won't derail you as much as skipping meals and having a long fast between them! I ate horribly when I conceived my sweet DS3 that I'm holding! He was a product of a failed girl sway! Trust me- I had SUPER long fasts between meals and was not eating near as healthy as I did with my other boys! Oh and I was doing 60min of cardio 6 days a week too!

If I can manage having a boy with that, you can manage a boy with eating too much sweets!

Dropping off more of my blue baby dust for you [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]! You blue swayers are too cute and have a special place in my heart! I believe every mother should have at least one boy, or two [emoji170][emoji170]!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170]

[Magical22]

Magical I've heard acupuncture helps. Is that a possibility for you?

Did anyone else fall off the diet wagon?! I'm swaying blue so I know I have more leniency but I must have eaten gallons of sugar. I didn't eat very nutritious at all which I think is important for blue. I did force myself to eat beef occasionally. I am really not into meat. I much prefer the side dishes and cookies, hence my two girls!!


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Yes I could give it ago.


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[farmgirl33]

I get how you blue swayers feel. I slacked off over Christmas with both diet & exercise. Still ate lots & had lots of meat & drank v8, but no exercise for 2 weeks & not as many eggs & more sweets. I have put on more weight so now am trying to snack on more healthy options & have started exercising again. I hate feeling frumpy & I think that's why I've had girls cause I have always been the type to put on weight easily & have always skipped some meals or fasted for long periods of time & I never did any exercise. With my 1st dd I was at a good weight, with my 2nd dd I was still trying to loose weight as dd1 was only 9 mths old & I still had 10kgs to loose before getting to my pre-pregnancy weight. With my 3rd dd I was finally at a good healthy weight, not trying to gain or loose, but just in the habit of watching what I eat & not regularly eating breakfast & the only protein I really ate was meat at dinner time. No eggs or nuts etc.



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[ksmom]

Anyone ever get EWCM in the 2ww? I had some today and am 11 or 12 dpo. I know for sure I o'ed. Sign of AF coming maybe?

[Nann3r]

Yes! I def did last time and this time!

[ksmom]

I'm really hoping it's a good sign for us then! I so badly want to get a sticky BFP this cycle (and preferably a pink one ;))

[Nann3r]

Haha I'll take blue ;)

I caved of course.. Took a pg test at 7dpo! Bfn of course.. :) still keeping high spirits though since bfps that early aren't totally common anyway! Prayers I get a bfp in the next few days!

[ksmom]

I've got my fingers crossed for you Nann!!

[farmgirl33]

Ksmom- I've had some cycles of having ewcm in tww. I don't think I did last cycle, but remember feeling quite 'wet'. Fx you get a bfp soon.

Nann- keeping my fx for you too. Hope it's a bfp in the next couple of days


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[pinkin2011]

Best of luck girls with your testing! xo

I am cd1 today. Hope to ovulate day 17 or 18 with the help of clomid!! should I aim to attempt after I get my positive opk like say 15 hrs after because I am usually 24 hrs away from ovulation when I get a positive

[pinkin2011]

I am doing e4d this month but I want my last attempt to be close to ovulation if it can be

[maidentomother]

I get EWCM during my LP sometimes. Usually right before AF.

My chart post O is very weird looking for me. Very steady/smooth temps, I assume due to the FSH injections?

[purple]

Blue swayers, please don't feel like you can't get a boy eating sweets! With DS1 I had been eating things like cake and cookies fairly often because baking is my hobby. Same with DS2 I was eating dessert pretty much every night. I think the part of my diet that was blue friendly was how much I snacked and I ate quite a bit of fat and protein.

I got my boys eating plenty of sweets! I love baking too and I would snack lots on cakes and cookies. I think the snacking was also one of my main blue sway factors.

[purple]

Anyone on here take Clomid before? Just wondering how many days after taking the last pill you started to test with OPK strips. Took my last pill on the evening of CD7 and got very positive OPK's on CD9 and again today at CD10. From what I read they can be a false positive for a few days after stopping Clomid so just wondering when the results would be accurate.

I have started OPKs 3 days after my last clomid dose the 3 times I have used clomid and haven't got false positives. I would make some attempts just in case.

[ksmom]

12 or 13 dpo and BFN on FRER. I think it's safe to say I'm out. FF says I should O again sometime late January so FX I do. I'd love a Valentine's Day BFP. ;)

Good luck to those testing soon!! We need to get those BFPs started on this board!

[Nann3r]

8dpo and still bfn! 12dpo cannot get here fast enough haha

[tfahn]

Well CD11 today and my third day of positive OPK's, along with a second morning of lower temps. Took Clomid days 3-7 and they said that I could ovulate anywhere from 5-10 days later so tomorrow would be the 5th day so I guess it is possible I will O soon. I just want to know for sure so I can add more attempts in, going to get bloodwork taken this morning to see what is going on. Started on the Mucinex last night and will continue until a day after O.

[ksmom]

That's still really early Nann! FX for a BFP in the next few days :)

Hopefully you O soon Tfahn! Good luck!!

[Quinn31]

Tfahn can you start eod right now just in case?

I have my IUI on Saturday and I'm so worried. I just feel anxious and defeated this cycle even though I had a (brief) bfp last cycle. I know that mindset is bad for a boy sway so I'm trying to get out of it!! Anyone else have these feelings? I know the nurse telling me how bad my results were is having something to do with it.


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[ksmom]

I'm sorry you're feeling down Quinn! We had been trying for about a year for DS1 and I felt so awful about our chances. I had no hope whatsoever for getting pregnant, so much so that I had some wine in the TWW and didn't test until 15 dpo. I was quite shocked I ended up with a BFP! I hope this cycle you get your sticky BFP. Sending you tons of blue dust :)

[XXforhubby]

Tfahn can you start eod right now just in case?

I have my IUI on Saturday and I'm so worried. I just feel anxious and defeated this cycle even though I had a (brief) bfp last cycle. I know that mindset is bad for a boy sway so I'm trying to get out of it!! Anyone else have these feelings? I know the nurse telling me how bad my results were is having something to do with it.


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Don't despair sweetie! I had a miscarriage the cycle before conceiving DS2. I was super depressed when I didn't conceive the next cycle afterwards. I too felt defeated. If I can manage a boy with that mindset, you can too!

Huge hugs! Dropping off more of my blue baby dust for you [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170]

[tfahn]

Tfahn can you start eod right now just in case?

I have my IUI on Saturday and I'm so worried. I just feel anxious and defeated this cycle even though I had a (brief) bfp last cycle. I know that mindset is bad for a boy sway so I'm trying to get out of it!! Anyone else have these feelings? I know the nurse telling me how bad my results were is having something to do with it.


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We are doing EOD as of CD7 but I would like the chance to add an extra attempt or 2 in at the right time. Trying to make the most out of my Clomid cycle.

Quinn, good luck with the IUI this weekend, hopefully it really helps. Is this the first cycle you are trying IUI?

[maidentomother]

Ksmom, you might be only 10DPO. Do you know how long your LP is usually?

tfahn, I'd be BDing EOD-ED if you got a positive on CD11. Do you typically O early on your own? If so, you are more likely to O early on Clomid.

Quinn, hang in there! I hope the IUI does the trick for you. I am too depressed about other things to really stress about TTC...but I felt awful for a year after my MC. I think jow I'm just used to awful.

[Quinn31]

Thanks so much ladies. I really just need to get back to thinking positively and I should be since I was able to get pregnant last month! I think part of the problem is I just went back to work after 2 weeks off and I'm feeling fat from my horrible diet those two weeks. Haha. I always get anxious about work.

Tfahn this is our first cycle with IUI and will be third clomid. They increased it to 100 mg. my last dd was conceived through IUI but it took three. Unfortunately the first two were with the RE and a waste of time I think. I had the hsg done with the RE and got pregnant right after. Hoping it works this time although they're not doing the hsg since I had the chemical.


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[tfahn]

tfahn, I'd be BDing EOD-ED if you got a positive on CD11. Do you typically O early on your own? If so, you are more likely to O early on Clomid.


I have O'd anywhere from CD13-20 on my own in the past but I usually only get 24hrs of positive OPKs at the most so this cycle is just confusing with having a 3 straight days of them. Atomic says some women can have 5 days of false positive OPK's after Clomid but the average is usually only 2-3. I wouldn't be mad at an early O. :)

[tfahn]

Thanks so much ladies. I really just need to get back to thinking positively and I should be since I was able to get pregnant last month! I think part of the problem is I just went back to work after 2 weeks off and I'm feeling fat from my horrible diet those two weeks. Haha. I always get anxious about work.

Tfahn this is our first cycle with IUI and will be third clomid. They increased it to 100 mg. my last dd was conceived through IUI but it took three. Unfortunately the first two were with the RE and a waste of time I think. I had the hsg done with the RE and got pregnant right after. Hoping it works this time although they're not doing the hsg since I had the chemical.
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Well good luck, seems like a lot of people get a sticky bean after a chemical, hopefully this is your month.

I had the HSG last month and Clomid this month so hopefully this gives my eggs the golden touch.

[tfahn]

I hate taking that Mucinex crap, does any other Blue Swayers take it? It has the most horrible smell ever and I swear it makes my urine smell the same when taking it. I have been sporadic with taking it during the last 10 months of trying but with starting Clomid this cycle I planned on taking it for a few days before O and a day after. Is it just me that thinks it stinks or maybe I just have a weird batch of it.

[maidentomother]

tfahn the positive OPKs prior to CD11 don't count. So you've only had one so far, really.

[Ttc2015]

Ksmom I would wait until day af is due before counting yourself out, you never know.

I'm actually a bit confused about when is best to test. Do you count day of positive opk as first day (that is, the following day is 1dpo) or do you wait 24-48 hours and count that as day 1, when you think you have ovulated? I thought it was pretty much impossible to pinpoint the exact moment of ovulation? We have always had our attempt on day of smiley face, how reliable do you think the digital tests are? I'm wondering if timing is good for us. I feel so ignorant.

I'm doing very bad with the diet, the last few weeks over the festive period have been hard! I kind of gave up on following LE apart from still skipping breakfast and eating slightly less than I normally would. Feeling bad about this. I have been wearing a rose quartz necklace the last few months and this week it has fallen off twice, I almost oust it today - not sure what to make of this! Turns out I'm more superstitious than I thought!!

[pinkin2011]

I took clomid last month and had false positives after last pill. So waited 3 days and my tests were not as positive then started to get darker again. I ovulated day 18

[Quinn31]

Ttc I always count the day after a positive opk as 1dpo. Although after temping I realized that sometimes it's two days after.

I cheated all the time, especially around Christmas on my own le diet and have two girls. I was generally an le person but always had cheat days or weeks sometimes!


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[maidentomother]

Ksmom I would wait until day af is due before counting yourself out, you never know.

I'm actually a bit confused about when is best to test. Do you count day of positive opk as first day (that is, the following day is 1dpo) or do you wait 24-48 hours and count that as day 1, when you think you have ovulated? I thought it was pretty much impossible to pinpoint the exact moment of ovulation? We have always had our attempt on day of smiley face, how reliable do you think the digital tests are? I'm wondering if timing is good for us. I feel so ignorant.

I'm doing very bad with the diet, the last few weeks over the festive period have been hard! I kind of gave up on following LE apart from still skipping breakfast and eating slightly less than I normally would. Feeling bad about this. I have been wearing a rose quartz necklace the last few months and this week it has fallen off twice, I almost oust it today - not sure what to make of this! Turns out I'm more superstitious than I thought!!

Sorry to hear about your struggles on the diet. I'm Jewish so the holiday season doesn't affect me. I'm also a hermit due to my pain. I wouldn't stress about the necklace falling offf....but thrn I am superstitious about some things. For example I Oed on Jan 2nd, my mom's bday, and my mom was a psychotic narcissist. I worry that could affect a potential baby.

Re: OPKs etc, if you have been charting thoroughly for a while (temping, noting CM, CP and OPKing), you can often pinpoint the day of O reasonably accurately. Just OPKs alone don't tell you that much, but most women with regular cycles will O the day after the first positive OPK. Oing 2 days later is next most common, then less likely but still possible are Oing on the day of the first positive or 3+ days after it. So I'd assume in your case that 2 days after your first positive is 1DPO.

[ksmom]

Ksmom, you might be only 10DPO. Do you know how long your LP is usually?

It varies. For the past 3.5 years or so, I've been breastfeeding most of that time so my LP was anywhere from 9-15 days. DS2 just weaned last month so who knows. In the past year it seems like my LP has been around 13-15 days. Before having kids, it was always 16 days.

[twointow83]

Anyone on here take Clomid before? Just wondering how many days after taking the last pill you started to test with OPK strips. Took my last pill on the evening of CD7 and got very positive OPK's on CD9 and again today at CD10. From what I read they can be a false positive for a few days after stopping Clomid so just wondering when the results would be accurate.

You can get false positives if you OPK test too soon. It's recommended you wait 3 full days from your last dose. So, if CD 7 was your last dose then you wouldn't want to test until CD 10 or 11.

[purple]

Ttc I always count the day after a positive opk as 1dpo. Although after temping I realized that sometimes it's two days after.

I cheated all the time, especially around Christmas on my own le diet and have two girls. I was generally an le person but always had cheat days or weeks sometimes!


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I count the day after OPK+ as ovulation day and then the next day as 1dpo (1 day past ovulation). This is what has lined up with my temps. Some women may be different though.

[twointow83]

Sorry to hear about your struggles on the diet. I'm Jewish so the holiday season doesn't affect me. I'm also a hermit due to my pain. I wouldn't stress about the necklace falling offf....but thrn I am superstitious about some things. For example I Oed on Jan 2nd, my mom's bday, and my mom was a psychotic narcissist. I worry that could affect a potential baby.

Re: OPKs etc, if you have been charting thoroughly for a while (temping, noting CM, CP and OPKing), you can often pinpoint the day of O reasonably accurately. Just OPKs alone don't tell you that much, but most women with regular cycles will O the day after the first positive OPK. Oing 2 days later is next most common, then less likely but still possible are Oing on the day of the first positive or 3+ days after it. So I'd assume in your case that 2 days after your first positive is 1DPO.

Agreed! I fit in the 2 days after category :)

[maidentomother]

75% of my cycles I O the day after my first positive OPK, 15% of them I O 2 days after, 5% 3 days after, 5% on the same day as my first positive. Those being approximations over 6 years of OPKing.

[twointow83]

75% of my cycles I O the day after my first positive OPK, 15% of them I O 2 days after, 5% 3 days after, 5% on the same day as my first positive. Those being approximations over 6 years of OPKing.

Wow, that's really specific lol. So specific in fact that it made me curious enough to look at my charts. Until last year I hadn't OPK tested since I was trying to get preg with my youngest and he is 5! Turns out my stats are quite different when I don't just consider the last year! 50% of the time I O'd the day after my first +OPK (though it should be noted that there were a some cycles where my first test taken was + or I didn't test a day or two and when I tested again it was +... so there is some margin for error). Only 26% of the time I O'd 2 days after (that was a surprise!). 16% of the time I O'd 3 days after my first +OPK and, finally, 8% of the time I O'd 4 days after! Which got me wondering more about the last year and 33% of the time was the day after (same disclaimer above applies to these as well), 51% of the time I O'd 2 days after and 16% of the time O O'd 3 days after. Interesting! For some reason I had it stuck in my head that I always O'd 2 days after but that apparently is not the case...

[Nann3r]

I think I'm going crazy.. I just tested 2x in one day!!!

Has anyone ever contemplated deleting fertilityfriend, deleting tapatalk, and signing off all swaying websites and just let mother nature decide your fate??? I've thought about it and would love to let go of this stupid stress! But I just can't bring myself to stop thinking about ttc! I can't shut it off lol!

[purple]

I think I'm going crazy.. I just tested 2x in one day!!!

Has anyone ever contemplated deleting fertilityfriend, deleting tapatalk, and signing off all swaying websites and just let mother nature decide your fate??? I've thought about it and would love to let go of this stupid stress! But I just can't bring myself to stop thinking about ttc! I can't shut it off lol!

I deleted tapatalk (again) the other day... I still come on the website however but its not as easy to just quickly check. Fertility friend isn't too bad as I just have the free version, I spent way too much time on it when I was a VIP while TTC#1 & #2 so I'm not getting VIP membership, I'm also not charting anymore as it is too stressful.

I know what you mean about thinking about ttc too much! I wish I was one of those people who just got pregnant without thinking about it much.

[Nann3r]

Yes! Both SILs didn't have to chart anything... They just used opks and tried once and got pregnant immediately. And both had boys -_- they're so lucky!!

[Magical22]

Both my SIL got pregnant first go or had accidental pregnancies both got pigeon pairs [emoji58]

Down over Christmas one of them had to take the morning after pill. And here I am not even falling pregnant with IVF. [emoji17]


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[maidentomother]

twointow, awesome to see your own stats! There is definitely a margin of error, but it's interesting to see how much variation there is between cycles AND over time. I haven't done the math on individual years but I can tell you that I used to O almost exclusively the day after, with occasional on the same day. I, like you, seem to O less regularly/less frequently the day after over time.

[maidentomother]

I have OCD and am mostly bed bound so as long as I have internet I'm on here & FF forums! My internet isn't always reliable though so I get forced breaks regularly. And I take a several days break when AF comes.

[twointow83]

Unfortunately I tend to be a bit obsessive when it comes to TTC. It's a little better on clomid cycles as there is less guess work and less time sitting around waiting to O but I still tend to be too focused on TTC. That's why I hate TTC. It's a lot of mental and emotional strain. Unfortunately, due to past history of infertility it's a compulsion that is hard to fight. I still have the mindset that if I don't pay close attention I'll miss O. Even after O I feel like I have to pay close attention so I don't take meds or eat or drink anything that might harm baby. I would love to be the type that just BDs and gets pregnant without any extra thought but being off my anxiety meds for TTC kinda turns me into an obsessive head case lol.

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[maidentomother]

Just how I feel. I have unpredictable and usually late O too. I can't imagine how much worse I'd be off Valium (taken for muscle relaxation, not anxiety, but it does help with the latter somewhat). Technically I shouldn't be on it while TTC but I can't survive without it until the relaxin kicks in. Fortunately I metabolize it very quickly.

[Ttc2015]

Sorry to hear about your struggles on the diet. I'm Jewish so the holiday season doesn't affect me. I'm also a hermit due to my pain. I wouldn't stress about the necklace falling offf....but thrn I am superstitious about some things. For example I Oed on Jan 2nd, my mom's bday, and my mom was a psychotic narcissist. I worry that could affect a potential baby.

Re: OPKs etc, if you have been charting thoroughly for a while (temping, noting CM, CP and OPKing), you can often pinpoint the day of O reasonably accurately. Just OPKs alone don't tell you that much, but most women with regular cycles will O the day after the first positive OPK. Oing 2 days later is next most common, then less likely but still possible are Oing on the day of the first positive or 3+ days after it. So I'd assume in your case that 2 days after your first positive is 1DPO.

Thanks to you and everyone for advice re dpo, I think I'm at 6 today.

I had actually thought the necklace might be a good sign! The powers that be telling me I no longer need it as I'm carrying my girl now, ha ha. in reality the catch is probably just broken or something! Oh every family has one don't they maiden? My dad wasn't the greatest human being, part of the reason I was nervous when I had boys!

[Ttc2015]

I think I'm going crazy.. I just tested 2x in one day!!!

Has anyone ever contemplated deleting fertilityfriend, deleting tapatalk, and signing off all swaying websites and just let mother nature decide your fate??? I've thought about it and would love to let go of this stupid stress! But I just can't bring myself to stop thinking about ttc! I can't shut it off lol!

Yes Nann! We started our HT journey over a year ago. It was so devastating when that didn't work, I can see how easily it would be to get obsessive about it and always think 'it could work next time'. I was really scared to try swaying and was so strict at first, but I'm so impatient and finding it hard to handle the negatives each month. Decided to try one more time after this month as really wanted a 2016 baby. My superstition (all my boys born in an odd year, therefore need an even year for a girl. Mad I know) and also the age gaps between them and me getting older and us generally moving on with our lives past the baby/pre schooler age. I'm telling myself if it doesn't happen by then it's not meant to be and there is a good reason. It's so hard not to get obsessed about it though X

[Nann3r]

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9dpo.. Can anyone see anything?? /:

[twointow83]

9dpo.. Can anyone see anything?? /:

Sorry :( But 9 DPO is still early. You aren't out yet :)

[tfahn]

Really freaking out. Woke up today to find out that I started bleeding overnight, a good amount too, and still bleeding now. Only CD12 today on first Clomid Cycle. Took another OPK this morning and it turned positive within minutes. After thinking about it while I got ready for work it hit me that OPK's also turn positive if you are pregnant. Held my urine for 2 hours and brought along a HCG test with me to work; Well that turned up positive too. Called the RE office as soon as they opened and was sent for a blood HCG test, already had the blood drawn and waiting for the results. So no clue what is going on, I don't know if Clomid can cause false posititve HCG tests or not. I did have my period 12 days ago and temps went below coverline so realistically I know I probably am not pregnant but the scenarios in my head are not good.

[twointow83]

Really freaking out. Woke up today to find out that I started bleeding overnight, a good amount too, and still bleeding now. Only CD12 today on first Clomid Cycle. Took another OPK this morning and it turned positive within minutes. After thinking about it while I got ready for work it hit me that OPK's also turn positive if you are pregnant. Held my urine for 2 hours and brought along a HCG test with me to work; Well that turned up positive too. Called the RE office as soon as they opened and was sent for a blood HCG test, already had the blood drawn and waiting for the results. So no clue what is going on, I don't know if Clomid can cause false posititve HCG tests or not. I did have my period 12 days ago and temps went below coverline so realistically I know I probably am not pregnant but the scenarios in my head are not good.
Holy crap! You shouldn't be getting false results due to clomid at this point... FX and prayers that whatever is going on ends up ok.

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[maidentomother]

Ttc, I like how you think, re: the necklace. And I'm sorry to hear about your dad. Unfortunately my brother is following in mom's footsteps. Anyway, I'm excited we're only 1DPO apart! Oh...and I have always preferred even numbers and years.

tfahn, I was looking at your chart a couple days ago and thinking about all those strong positive OPKs and I wondered if maybe you were preggo from last cycle. I suspect you will have quite a high beta! Fx!

Nann, it's still early!

[ksmom]

Don't see anything Nann but 9 dpo is still pretty early!

Oh my gosh Tfahn, that's crazy! Really confusing...did you take a HPT last cycle during the TWW? I've never heard of clomid causing false positive HPTs but then again I don't know much about that med. I hope you get answers soon.

[tfahn]

But I had my period and below coverline temps. I had different blood work yesterday and my progesterone level was <1, I guess I could be having a MC if I somehow was pregnant, that is one of the scenarios in my head for the bleeding cause. Stalking my hospital portal page to look for the blood test results. I just need to know what is going on.

[tfahn]

Yes I took pregnancy tests last cycle On Dec 22-24, all 3 days were BFN, then started my period on the 26th.

[twointow83]

Yes I took pregnancy tests last cycle On Dec 22-24, all 3 days were BFN, then started my period on the 26th.
I don't know if it's the same thing or not but one of my first cycles of clomid I had this really weird reaction... I had AF and then a week later AF showed again. In my case it happened at the END of the cycle not the beginning though and I never tested so I have no idea about that aspect... I really hope everything works out ok. Prayers and hugs!

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[tfahn]

Thanks TwoinTow.

[Ttc2015]

Hi Nann, I can't see anything I'm afraid, but I rarely do on my iPad!

Tfahn, that is really strange. Fingers crossed all is well, keep us updated

[Quinn31]

Tfahn update when you find out. I've never heard that happening either but I've learned that when ttc anything crazy (and most likely harmless) that can happen, will happen!

Nann I feel like that all the time but then I really need to hear how other women are doing. It's a constant battle and it sucks. Hoping we're close to the end of the road.


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[tfahn]

Well not great news under the circumstances. The HCG blood test was 154 but the progesterone was <1 so technically I am pregnant. They are doing a repeat HCG on Friday. So with the bleeding today I can only assume that I am having a MC or its possible it's an Etopic pregnancy with the low hormones levels. I had a normal period, 2 days of heavy/med flow and then 2 days of light/spotting before starting the Clomid and since it was a normal period for me I never took another pregnancy test. So along with the Clomid I took I also started taking the Mucinex tablets the other day, and took some Tylenol and aspirin for a bad headache. Just feeling incredibly guilty over the whole thing. It might have been a bad outcome regardless of the Clomid but it doesn't stop the guilt. The low progesterone points to a bad outcome so I guess I just need to wait it out until Friday.

[twointow83]

Well not great news under the circumstances. The HCG blood test was 154 but the progesterone was <1 so technically I am pregnant. They are doing a repeat HCG on Friday. So with the bleeding today I can only assume that I am having a MC or its possible it's an Etopic pregnancy with the low hormones levels. I had a normal period, 2 days of heavy/med flow and then 2 days of light/spotting before starting the Clomid and since it was a normal period for me I never took another pregnancy test. So along with the Clomid I took I also started taking the Mucinex tablets the other day, and took some Tylenol and aspirin for a bad headache. Just feeling incredibly guilty over the whole thing. It might have been a bad outcome regardless of the Clomid but it doesn't stop the guilt. The low progesterone points to a bad outcome so I guess I just need to wait it out until Friday.
I'm so sorry :'( I certainly can understand the guilt but it may help u to know that it's a completely normal reaction no matter the circumstances surrounding the miscarriage. (((Hugs))) Try not to be hard on yourself, I'd never have considered the possibility if pregnancy after BFNs and AF showed and I'd dare say nobody else would have either. You had no way of knowing you were pregnant and you did nothing wrong. Hugs!!

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[ksmom]

I'm so sorry Tfahn. :( This wasn't your fault...you had no idea you were pregnant and even got what appeared to be AF. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that everything will turn out okay. Keep us updated. Big hugs!

[maidentomother]

You did nothing wrong and things may still turn out okay. Fx for you!

[Nann3r]

So sorry to hear this news tfahn.. Keeping you in my prayers. Please don't blame yourself. Everything happens for a reason and there's no way of knowing what caused this. So you can't dissect all your decisions else you'll go crazy! Hopeful that everything is going to be alright.. /:

[tfahn]

Thanks Twointow and ksmom. Just not looking forward to explaining everything to DH tonight, He knew I was bleeding this morning but he has no idea about anything else. It just sucks cause I really thought December was going to be our month, I had the HSG done and 10 DPO was my DH's birthday and DD1 original due date. I tested Dec 22-24 but didn't Christmas morning for some reason and bleeding started the 26th. My temps still don't reflect a pregnancy in my opinion which I guess is caused by my low progesterone levels.

[Quinn31]

Tfahn, I don't think this was your fault at all and I hope you are feeling a little better. My dr once told me women could go through a lot with a healthy pregnancy and it would work out fine but if a pregnancy is not healthy, nothing will change that. I'm so sorry to hear this though. I completely understand having so many emotional ideas attached to a certain due date.

I really hope the next news you get helps bring some peace. I'll be thinking of you and your dh.


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[tfahn]

I have read a lot of stories on the internet about the same thing happening to other women. They had normal for them periods and then took clomid. Some had successful pregnancies, some other had miscarriages. I would hold out some hope for a good outcome on Friday if my progesterone level was higher. My progesterone was at 11.2 on 12/21 when checked midcycle but with a level of <1 and pregnant that is what is troubling. The RE did offer to give me progesterone supplements but I think, and they agreed, that if the progesterone is that low then something is wrong with the fetus and it is not signaling my body to make progesterone for a reason. At this point I am just praying that it is not an Etopic

[Ttc2015]

I would echo what the other ladies have said, you had no way of knowing. This is such an emotional journey. Could they scan you to find out if it is an ectopic or is it too early?

[tfahn]

Thanks Quinn and TTC2015. I think the RE is waiting til Friday to see the new numbers and go from there in regards to scans/next steps.

[Blue Bear]

Thinking about you tfahn. Will keep you in my prayers as well. And yes, like the others said, there would be no way to know or think you were pregnant after AF.

[XXforhubby]

Tfahn, I'm keeping you in my prayers! I know it's hard not to play scenarios and what ifs in your head, but please know you did not cause this! I know it's hard right now being in limbo. The same thing happened to me before I conceived DS2 (except I wasn't on Clomid). It sucks, I know but I'm praying that you conceive your rainbow baby soon!

Huge hugs!!


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[farmgirl33]

Thinking of you Tfahn & sending big ((hugs))

[purple]

Oh wow Tfahn, I'm so sorry you are going through this. It is very unusual and your chart did not look like a pregnancy one at all. I would have taken the clomid too without even considering being pregnant in that situation. I really hope you find out what is going on soon.

[purple]

Meanwhile I'm too busy reading the forum to notice ants are all over my lunch :( I think I managed to save it so I won't go hungry. I hope that provides some laughs for you guys :)

Are ants allowed on LE diet?

[ksmom]

Purple I think ants are fine as long as you don't go over on protein. ;) :giggle:

[farmgirl33]

Haha purple, made me laugh while I'm having a bit of a late lunch of sausage & eggs.


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[essnce629]

Oh no tfahn! You really didn't do anything wrong and most of us would have done the exact same thing in your situation. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for you that things work out. You never know. (((HUGS)))

[maidentomother]

Well my chart went crazy, my jaw dropped when I saw the temp. And I'm cramping again. Any of you ladies who have gone IVF, did you have uterine cramping on Gonal-F/FSH?

[purple]

That's a huge temp spike! No ides about the cramping, is it painful?

[maidentomother]

Hard to day bc I sm on strong opiates 24/7 but since I feel it through that I guess somewhat? Ibuprofen would probably do the trick but of course I can't take it.

What's weird is I have a retroverted uterus so during AF my cramping is mostly in my low back. Alllll the cramping I've had this cycle has been in the front. 2 years ago, same time of year, I had a similar front cramping post O. I was TTC but BFN.

Naturally since I've typed this post the pain has ratcheted up, grr. I'd say it's close to AF level. Maybe AF is about to arrive? But with that temp jump? I am so confused! I do sometimes have really short LPs so anything is possible.

[ksmom]

Implantation cramping maybe? When I got pregnant back in October, I had the worst cramping at 7 dpo. It was so bad that I had to breathe through it like I was in labor! lol It felt like contractions or strong AF cramps. My temp had also jumped up by 0.7 that morning. I hope it's a good sign for you Maiden!

[Ttc2015]

I don't remember any cramping from the gonal f Maiden, later on with ohss I had a lot of discomfit and bloating but the gonal f was pretty symptom free.

[Nann3r]

Another bfn 10dpo ugh.. /:

[Nann3r]

Ok so someone suggested I put the test on a white surface for my pic so I did, but I since it was a quick last minute pic, it was taken 26 minutes after I tested. Is this an evap? Or could these be a faint line. Tell me straight! I can handle it! :)

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[Nann3r]

Or my mind is tricking me once again and there's no line.. Booooooooooo lol

[ksmom]

I don't think I see anything Nann, sorry. :( After 10 minutes the tests are invalid. I got a few evaps this TWW (I even dipped one in plain water and still a light gray line showed up). FX for a BFP soon!

[has2gentlemen]

I don't see anything, sorry nann


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[Nann3r]

Yeah I figured as much [emoji17]

[maidentomother]

Thanks ksmom and tfahn.

I've had cramping on 2DPO, 4DPO, and today, 6DPO. The cramping on 2DPO was the worst, with weird pain on the sides I have never felt before. I suspect maybe that was my tubes working the eggs down?

The cramping at 4DPO was the mildest but lasted the longest. Today it was pretty brief. But then not long after I noticed my breasts are tender (which I've never had without my nips being sensitive also), they tingle uncomfortably in response to slight pressure.

Wouldn't 6DPO be too early for implantation? Especially since I BDed so late on O day so more 5DPO + 9 hours. That definitely seems too early. I think it must just be the drugs and the fact that I have all those extra nerves (3x normal at least in my peripheral nervous system). Plus I have always been very sensitive to hormones, whether synthetic or natural.

I temped later in the day and my temp was nearly 100 (and I lie in bed all day), so I do think my temp today was valid. What's strange is I am normally warm/hot after O, but this cycle I was hot before and have been freezing since. The warmer I get the colder I feel! Overall it's just a crazy cycle. I hope I react less to Clomid next cycle, I'm kinda worried now!

Nann, I'm sorry I don't see anything. But cheapies are rarely sensitive.

[twointow83]

Sorry nann, I don't see anything :(

maiden- 5DPO is the absolute earliest the egg can implant as it takes that long for it to hatch. So, it IS possible to have implantation on 5 DPO :) FX for you!

[TaytumJ]

Nann, my FRER was really faint at 10dpo so I'm not surprised that test isn't showing anything this early. Keep hope!! [emoji92]

I'm stalking so much as most of you are getting close to testing! I love seeing the BFPs!


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[farmgirl33]

Nann - sorry I can't see anything either, but 10 Dpo is still early. Fx a bfp will show in a day or two.

Maiden - fx this is your bfp cycle.




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[purple]

Nann I didn't get a clear bfp until 12dpo with DS1. I had a super faint line at 11dpo but didn't think it was really positive.

I'm cd 17.. last month I O'd on cd 17 but it doesn't look like I will O as early this month. Hopefully I won't go back to my cd30 average :(

[maidentomother]

Ugh I hope you O soon purple, late O is soooo frustrating.

[ksmom]

I hope you don't O that late Purple! Most of the time I ovulate between cd25-30 so I know how frustrating it can be. FX for O in a few days.

CD1 for me today and moving on to our 4th month TTC. I'm actually not that disappointed and maybe it's because I just knew I wasn't pregnant so I'd accepted it already. I at least had a 15 day LP according to FF so that's good. I probably won't O until late Jan./early Feb. I ovulated early last cycle so hopefully I ovulate early again. What's funny is DH and I made a bet last cycle when I'd get a BFP if I did end up pregnant (this was before I even knew when I'd ovulate). DH guessed Dec. 30th and I guessed Jan. 8th. Looks like I predicted the first day of AF instead. :p I'm just ready to get on with this cycle and try again. I'd really love to get a BFP on or before Valentine's Day! :HH:

Good luck to those testing this month!!!

[maidentomother]

I'm sorry ksmom. I still think you may have Oed later but hope you O much earlier this cycle.

I feel like I'm about to get AF, what with the continued cramping in the middle and on both sides.. Time, please hurry up!

[Quinn31]

Nann I had a friend that didn't get her bfp until after af was due. That always gives me hope.

Ksmom glad you are optimistic, I like the due dates for babies conceived in January/February anyway so I'm hoping for that.

Maiden hopefully those are just the baby snuggling in!!

I had my u/s for my IUI tomorrow and sadly I only had one follicle at 22. The other was 14. I'm disappointed because with my last dd I had two 21 and one 19 and only got pregnant with one. If this one doesn't work, we are going to increase clomid to 150 or try injectibles but they're sooooo expensive.


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[Nann3r]

Please someone tell me I'm not crazy...

11dpo.. Morning urine, 7 hour hold.. My phone was dead so I had to use my canon that i use for photography [emoji23] so this stupid picture is a picture of a picture on a 2 inch screen... -_-

Of course when I get a squinter the world is working against me to post proof that I'm not just making it up this time! I'll take another test later today when I'm home.. But please tell me you see it too.


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[ksmom]

Maiden the cramping sounds like a promising sign. :) I always feel like I'm about to get AF when I'm pregnant.

Good luck this cycle Quinn. Hopefully that one good size eggie is all you need to get pregnant!

Nann I can't quite tell because there's so much dye streaked across the test. Could you take another pic once the dye has settled?

[Nann3r]

No I took the test about an hour ago so this pic is from then! Here's a black and white. So u can see better. Yeah I took it quick so there'd be no mistake over evap or not!


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[ksmom]

I think I see something! Hopefully it's the beginning of a BFP and you'll get a more definitive line tomorrow. :)

[maidentomother]

Quinn, thanks, I hope so! If I am pregnant - which I doubt - I feel it's twins (hopefully not more since I had 4 eggs!) bc the sensations remind me of what I believe was implantation with my twins.

I definitely recommend injectables based on my response this cycle to Gonal-F (and my response would have been even better if I had started the injections earlier, at the proper time). Where are you located? It seems injectables are much cheaper here. Maybe i could send you the rest of mine if you're in Europe? It should be enough for 2 cycles and I probably won't use it again. I'd rather be on Clomid or Femara. I'd gladly trade meds with you.

I really want a Fall baby too! Sep-Oct are my favourite months.

ksmom, thank you for your optimism as well. I will say my continued, if not increased breast tenderness/tingling gives me a tiny bit of hope. If I weren't on fertility meds I'd have more. If I did get lucky I think I must have released at least 1 egg after my one BD attempt, which is not impossible,

Nann, I feel like something is catching my eye but I don't see any colour so I would worry it's an evap. I rarely see squinters on my tablet though. Can you try a FRER? Also have you tried testing different times of day?

[Nann3r]

Well I know it's not an evap cuz the pic was taken 3-5 mins after I dipped the stick in the urine. Hence why I took it on my SLR camera and not my phone cuz it was dead lol! I didn't wanna wait till my phone charged. Also why there are dye streaks cuz I took it so quickly after!

I don't have any frers at the moment though.. I'll probably get some tomorrow at 12dpo so if I am pregnant, it'll be darker on the frers ya know?

I'm going to test again this evening when I get home though with another cheapie:)

[netti02]

I definitely see something nann3r fx for you

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

[Quinn31]

Thanks Maiden but I'm in the states. I would love to get something cheaper. I'm looking on message boards to hopefully find a place to get them. Do you have a diagnosis? I have high FSH and low afc. It's sad because I'm in my early 30's. I hate that this has happened. Dh and I ended up dtd too much before this IUI but his sperm isn't the problem, it's my eggs and if I only have one then I'm nervous.


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[maidentomother]

Quinn, depending on if/when I get a BFP I should be in the US sometime in the Spring, maybe even sooner. If you still need it, I can send you the rest of my Gonal-F then. Although...I think it would probably be okay to send it from here, since legally you can import meds in the US.

Technically I have no fundamental fertility issues, but due to high dose opiates I'm on for pain, my fertility is suppressed a bit and my sex hormones are on the low side. The pain itself also causes issues, bc off pain meds i cease Oing due to the stress on my mind & body. Plus I O late and have a short LP, which combined with no longer being so young may be a problem. The sperm donor I've been using has some health issues that may impact his sperm also. Likely I just need a little boost/help Oing sooner and producing more/better eggs to improve my odds.

I'm sorry you're struggling at your age, it hardly seems fair!

[twointow83]

Nann- I don't know... I think I *might* be seeing something but if it's there it is so hidden from the streaking that it makes it hard to tell.... even in the B&W FX this is it for you though!!

[Nann3r]

I know ugh I just didn't wanna miss my window to ensure no evap! Grr.. Hopefully I will have clearer results tomorrow

[tfahn]

Well I had my repeat HCG level this morning. It was 154 on Wednesday and it is down to 77 today, I will be getting a repeat level on Tuesday to make sure it is still going down. The RE is calling it a chemical pregnancy. After seeing todays numbers going down I am really at peace with it, with taking the Clomid, muxinex, wheat grass, having my hair treated and using some peppermint essential oils while apparently pregnant I think this is the best outcome as horrible as that sounds. Still bleeding but not as much as a few days ago. We are just looking toward the future and anxious to start trying again when everything resets itself. I will be the Poster child of telling everyone make sure you test for pregnancy before starting Clomid, even if you have your normal period and temping. Even with this crazy mess happening I will try the Clomid again to increase my egg quality to give us a better chance.

[Nann3r]

Well I had my repeat HCG level this morning. It was 154 on Wednesday and it is down to 77 today, I will be getting a repeat level on Tuesday to make sure it is still going down. The RE is calling it a chemical pregnancy. After seeing todays numbers going down I am really at peace with it, with taking the Clomid, muxinex, wheat grass, having my hair treated and using some peppermint essential oils while apparently pregnant I think this is the best outcome as horrible as that sounds. Still bleeding but not as much as a few days ago. We are just looking toward the future and anxious to start trying again when everything resets itself. I will be the Poster child of telling everyone make sure you test for pregnancy before starting Clomid, even if you have your normal period and temping. Even with this crazy mess happening I will try the Clomid again to increase my egg quality to give us a better chance.

Glad to hear you are feeling better through all of this.. Praying for your cycles to return quickly so you can continue ttc again! The positive side of this is that u did in fact conceive so next cycle you ttc you should be super fertile! Wouldn't be surprised if you got pregnant right away (: fx for you!

[tfahn]

Thanks Nann, that is my hope. If I got pregnant last cycle then that was without the Clomid so with Clomid we should be able to make something sticky happen :)

[Nann3r]

And maybe even multiples! ;) since you were able to release an egg naturally!

[twointow83]

I know ugh I just didn't wanna miss my window to ensure no evap! Grr.. Hopefully I will have clearer results tomorrow

I don't pay as much attention to time as I do color. Evaps don't have color.... well they do... grey or a silvery white... but not pink or blue- dye color. I've seen evap lines on tests w/in the 5 mins before, and sometimes I have to let a test dry to get a good look at the test when I am in squinter territory. I do try to make sure I look within the time frame but tests don't get thrown out around here until AFTER they are dry and I see no line (with color). When you are in squinter territory a squinter BFP can easily hide in the coloring of the wet test strip. Even if you CAN see it within time frame you'll be able to see it even better once it's dry. *disclaimer: Do I advocate leaving tests around all day long to dry before checking them? No. Do I think a squinter that could ONLY be seen AFTER it dried should be considered incontrovertible proof of pregnancy? No. There is a reason they put time limits. BUT *IF* you believe you can see something but the test is muddled like yours during the time frame, allowing the test to dry can give you a better view to see if there really was a line or if it just looked like it because the test was muddled. This may not be a popular opinion but I have taken SOOOOOO many tests that it's kinda like charting for me. Some rules are hard and fast while others have wiggle room provided you understand that you are going outside the recommendations and therefore understand that there is some room for error.

[twointow83]

Well I had my repeat HCG level this morning. It was 154 on Wednesday and it is down to 77 today, I will be getting a repeat level on Tuesday to make sure it is still going down. The RE is calling it a chemical pregnancy. After seeing todays numbers going down I am really at peace with it, with taking the Clomid, muxinex, wheat grass, having my hair treated and using some peppermint essential oils while apparently pregnant I think this is the best outcome as horrible as that sounds. Still bleeding but not as much as a few days ago. We are just looking toward the future and anxious to start trying again when everything resets itself. I will be the Poster child of telling everyone make sure you test for pregnancy before starting Clomid, even if you have your normal period and temping. Even with this crazy mess happening I will try the Clomid again to increase my egg quality to give us a better chance.

I'm sorry :( That doesn't sound horrible. Not to me at least. When all you can think about is how XYZ is going to HURT your bean and bean passes peacefully and naturally I don't think relief is a horrible thing to feel (((HUGS))) I am glad you can be at peace with everything. I am here if you need to chat. Just shoot me a PM.

[tfahn]

Thanks Twointow. I think it helps that I never knew about the pregnancy before there were issues so I didn't have time to connect any positive feelings toward it, that would have been much harder. I read your story when I was on the other forum board, (((hugs))) to you and so sorry for everything that happened, I can not imagine that time in your life and what you must have been feeling. I so hope you get a sticky bean (or two) soon, you so deserve it! Glad to see you back on your journey.

[tfahn]

Does anyone here take baby aspirin? I know Atomic does not recommend it any longer but before I was on this board I took one everyday while I was conceiving our first baby and continued taking it well into the pregnancy. I am toying with starting again even though I know it sways girl, I did have a girl while on it but now knowing everything there were other things that swayed girl too probably. In my head I am thinking maybe that is why I had a chemical this time because I wasn't taking it. Not sure if I will take it or not, still up in the air about it.

[twointow83]

Thanks Twointow. I think it helps that I never knew about the pregnancy before there were issues so I didn't have time to connect any positive feelings toward it, that would have been much harder. I read your story when I was on the other forum board, (((hugs))) to you and so sorry for everything that happened, I can not imagine that time in your life and what you must have been feeling. I so hope you get a sticky bean (or two) soon, you so deserve it! Glad to see you back on your journey.

Thank you. (((HUGS)))) to you as well and I pray you get your rainbow bean soon too. It breaks my heart to see so many suffering losses on here :( It's just not fair.

[twointow83]

I am taking it EOD. But I take it to offset the side effects of clomid. Clomid is known for thin lining issues, so I take it to make sure my lining is nice and thick. So far it has been working for me. When I was on clomid last time and taking baby aspirin I'd go in for a follicle study and my lining was perfect :) Whether it helps when not taking clomid... I would imagine so and as long as you don't abruptly stop when you get preg I don't see it causing any harm.... but I'm no expert so...

[Nann3r]

Twointow do you think my line was evap then?

[twointow83]

Twointow do you think my line was evap then?
I doubt it if u saw something before the time limit. What does it dook like dry?

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[Nann3r]

I doubt it if u saw something before the time limit. What does it dook like dry?

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I honestly don't know. I took off right away after taking the pic of the pic on my camera. When I go home I'll fish it out of the trash and check it lol

[maidentomother]

100% agree!


I don't pay as much attention to time as I do color. Evaps don't have color.... well they do... grey or a silvery white... but not pink or blue- dye color. I've seen evap lines on tests w/in the 5 mins before, and sometimes I have to let a test dry to get a good look at the test when I am in squinter territory. I do try to make sure I look within the time frame but tests don't get thrown out around here until AFTER they are dry and I see no line (with color). When you are in squinter territory a squinter BFP can easily hide in the coloring of the wet test strip. Even if you CAN see it within time frame you'll be able to see it even better once it's dry. *disclaimer: Do I advocate leaving tests around all day long to dry before checking them? No. Do I think a squinter that could ONLY be seen AFTER it dried should be considered incontrovertible proof of pregnancy? No. There is a reason they put time limits. BUT *IF* you believe you can see something but the test is muddled like yours during the time frame, allowing the test to dry can give you a better view to see if there really was a line or if it just looked like it because the test was muddled. This may not be a popular opinion but I have taken SOOOOOO many tests that it's kinda like charting for me. Some rules are hard and fast while others have wiggle room provided you understand that you are going outside the recommendations and therefore understand that there is some room for error.

[Nann3r]

Ok so here is that exact see test from this morning almost 12 hours later dried up. I used a lid of a jar since it's more white :p what's the verdict after seeing wet and dry??

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/08/1038cc09bc283ae2f27a80daa18314aa.jpg

[maidentomother]

tfahn, I think a proper Clomid cycle should yield a nice sticky bean. Hugs to you.

[ksmom]

Nann I do see something and it looks like it may have color but hard to tell since it's so faint. Hopefully tomorrow the line will be darker.

So sorry Tfahn. :( I truly hope the clomid does the trick and you get a sticky little bean!

[maidentomother]

Nann, I see a definite grey shadow but have had evaps look like that. Remember I'm on a tablet so not ideal for viewing squinters. Fx for tomorrow!

[twointow83]

Nann3r- There is zero doubt there is a line there. I think I even see just a hint of color! Looking forward to tomorrow's test! Did you say you would be taking a FRER tomorrow?

[Nann3r]

tfahn- There is zero doubt there is a line there. I think I even see just a hint of color! Looking forward to tomorrow's test! Did you say you would be taking a FRER tomorrow?

Are you talking to me or tfahn? Lol! Well yes I am planning on trying to sneak away to get some tests tomorrow:) I'm attempting to keep it a secret from DH just in case this is the real deal haha to surprise him. I'll post my results once I get them!

[twointow83]

Are you talking to me or tfahn? Lol! Well yes I am planning on trying to sneak away to get some tests tomorrow:) I'm attempting to keep it a secret from DH just in case this is the real deal haha to surprise him. I'll post my results once I get them!

LMBO!! Yes, you. My clomid is kickin' in and I'm hurting pretty good so not thinking 100% straight lol. :oops:

[Nann3r]

Hahah I was just making sure!

[twointow83]

Hahah I was just making sure!

:bigsmile: :fingers: for tomorrow!!!

[essnce629]

Does anyone here take baby aspirin? I know Atomic does not recommend it any longer but before I was on this board I took one everyday while I was conceiving our first baby and continued taking it well into the pregnancy. I am toying with starting again even though I know it sways girl, I did have a girl while on it but now knowing everything there were other things that swayed girl too probably. In my head I am thinking maybe that is why I had a chemical this time because I wasn't taking it. Not sure if I will take it or not, still up in the air about it.
I started taking it about a year ago, after my miscarriage, when I found out I have the homozygous MTHFR mutation. I think Atomic only recommends it for that reason and other known clotting disorders. I only take it 3 days a week though because daily was causing bruising.

[essnce629]

Ok so here is that exact see test from this morning almost 12 hours later dried up. I used a lid of a jar since it's more white [emoji14] what's the verdict after seeing wet and dry??

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/01/08/1038cc09bc283ae2f27a80daa18314aa.jpg
Nann, I definitely see a line there but I can't tell if it has color! I really hope you get a nice pink line on your FRER. FX for you!

[Nann3r]

Thanks! I'm actually afraid to test in the morning cuz I don't wanna be disappointed if it goes away! :( lol!

[farmgirl33]

Nann can't wait to see your frer test tomorrow. I think I see a faint line.


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[purple]

Good luck nann! How many hours until tomorrow? It's hard to know when it is with the time difference :)

[Nann3r]

It's just about midnight here! So I'll test around the same time in the morning as I did yesterday! So prob around 8:00!

[purple]

So you will be testing just after midnight my time :) I probably won't see it until my tomorrow morning. Good luck! I hope to see a bfp!

[Nann3r]

Thanks so much! I'm freaking out!

[pinkin2011]

best of luck Nann, will you be using a FRER?

I am cd 5 today so first day of clomid. hopefully a nice bfp this month!

[maidentomother]

Twointow and pinkin, good luck with the Clomid!

I'm 8dpo, only 1 week left until I will test. Time takes forever!

[Blue Bear]

Nann3r - can't wait to see your results!!! In your last pic you posted I think I do see a line! pinkin - we are almost at the same spot. I'm CD 8. Hope a bunch of us get sticky beans soon!