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XXforhubby
July 10th, 2017, 09:16 PM
Sooo, let's just overlook that the former thread was gigantic and post here [emoji6]!

Welcome those new to TTC and welcome back those continuing! Here's loads of baby dust to all [emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]!!


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ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 09:25 PM
Ok moving to this thread :)

Maximbella and LMSM... Those two tests were from the same sample - I peed in a cup and dipped them. I struggle to pee directly on the stick :) :)

Ugh... Well, I guess we'll see how tomorrow goes. I think I may just go for it tomorrow (in terms of the BD attempt) and see what happens. It'll be CD 11 and again based on temping my "typical" ovulation day is day 13 or 14. So I think on day 11 we'd still have a good shot at it. I'll still test tomorrow before deciding but I think these OPKs are going to stress me out!

Bluedreaming
July 10th, 2017, 09:31 PM
Really hoping to get a positive opk soon


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Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 09:32 PM
ABC I think that's a great idea ☝ test tomorrow and decide from there. Post is a pic of both tests when done!

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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 09:55 PM
Oh Max!! Cheering you on!!
Netti!! Praying this is your month ur month! Yay for dh!!
Lmsm: this is your month momma!!


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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 09:56 PM
Cheering all you ladies on!


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Lolabelle
July 10th, 2017, 11:04 PM
Hi ladies! Hoping to see lots of BFPs!!!!! Hoping & praying for each of you!
Max-woohoooo for crosshairs! [emoji322]
Netti-How exciting that DH agreed for one more!!
LMSM-thinking you're about 7dpo ish, eeek getting closer, Fx this is your month!!!!
ABC-I had the opposite issue with my wondfo OPK...mine all started out super dark & looked positive which was really weird! I don't have PCOS and from my recent U/S, no cysts. Mine were extra dark when positive. I highly recommend the digi to compare. Mine correlated nicely, but I was able to see that "extra extra dark" lines meant the same as a solid smiley for me. I think it varies from person to person. As Max mentioned, hers were always light, but the slightly darker line meant solid smiley (positive) for her. Hoping you get a BFP & won't even need to try them, but if it does come to that, I feel it's worth the extra $ to try it next cycle! I like the dual hormone b/c you use fmu! I like your plan for getting your 1 attempt in tomorrow!! Fx!!!!

ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 11:13 PM
Hi ladies! Hoping to see lots of BFPs!!!!! Hoping & praying for each of you!
Max-woohoooo for crosshairs! [emoji322]
Netti-How exciting that DH agreed for one more!!
LMSM-thinking you're about 7dpo ish, eeek getting closer, Fx this is your month!!!!
ABC-I had the opposite issue with my wondfo OPK...mine all started out super dark & looked positive which was really weird! I don't have PCOS and from my recent U/S, no cysts. Mine were extra dark when positive. I highly recommend the digi to compare. Mine correlated nicely, but I was able to see that "extra extra dark" lines meant the same as a solid smiley for me. I think it varies from person to person. As Max mentioned, hers were always light, but the slightly darker line meant solid smiley (positive) for her. Hoping you get a BFP & won't even need to try them, but if it does come to that, I feel it's worth the extra $ to try it next cycle! I like the dual hormone b/c you use fmu! I like your plan for getting your 1 attempt in tomorrow!! Fx!!!!

Sigh - oh wow - interesting that you had a very different experience! Yea I feel like these OPKs are kind of a pain. Ok - Decision made: If we don't conceive this cycle, I'm getting the digital tests :) :) Seems like they are a little less stressful! With my two boys we basically had sex when we wanted to & got a positive pregnancy test like 10 days later :) This whole trying to figure out exactly when to have the "one attempt" thing is a lot more confusing!!!

netti02
July 10th, 2017, 11:17 PM
Hi Ladies

Back again. Im using cheapie opks which im predominantly using in the arvo/PM.

Whats best to use to compare or should i just trust them? I won't be temping as its too much of a headache.

ABC, yew opks can be stressful and they aren't cheap either. Im starting to get a few twangs in the ovaries so Im wondering if the opks are picking up something. Ive had so-so moments with opks but ive always used the cheapies.



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netti02
July 10th, 2017, 11:23 PM
Hi Lola, LMSM, Halley, Mommy and any one else I have missed

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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 11:27 PM
If you had to get up earlier than your normal temping time tomorrow, would you put off temping until the next day or just go ahead and start temping for this cycle tomorrow?


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Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 11:30 PM
Netti I've always found Ovuplan opks really good to use. Easy to use (they sit in urine sample container using a float and have really good colour) You can get a 10pk opk (includes a free hpt) for $20 from chemist warehouse

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Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 11:32 PM
Mommy2apples don't think it would matter too much but I'd probably opt to start say after tomorrow

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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 11:32 PM
Alright! Thanks PBN! Hope you are feeling well! When is your next appointment?


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Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 11:34 PM
Not for ages now mommy2apples, 3.5 weeks time and just a 4 weekly check up :) I feel pretty good still! Just really really tired lol

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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 11:36 PM
It'll be here before you know it! So glad you are still feeling good!! That is always an awesome thing!! Tired blah, but hey would take that over sick for sure!


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netti02
July 10th, 2017, 11:57 PM
Thanks pbn, ill grab some Friday. I can feel my body trying extra hard to ovulate this cycle already lol. Im actually a little nervous and scared. Hiding that from DH though.

CD 8 today. Cervix is soft and open and CM turning watery. Gahhh getting too real.

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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 01:07 AM
Sorry! Didn't realize we started a new thread. I have a lot of catching up to do but just wanted to say yayyyy! I got 3 attempts in and dh didn't mind! So I have O-3, O-1, O am & pm so hoping my temp has spiked in the am!

Naci: I'm so sorry you felt left out and alone. That's what I'm petrified of happening with my kids. I honestly would let a little guy sleep in bed with his big Sisters before letting him feel left out. I just can't put a child through that kind of hurt.

Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 01:25 AM
TTC-you go girl!!! Yay! [emoji322][emoji322] You've got this!!! Can't wait to see what your temp does!
ABC-Fx you won't even need to try the digis, but always good to have a plan B! I did use OPKs with DS1, but I was so relaxed about it, BD'd a few times and VOILA, had a BFP. Didn't use them for DS2. It was much more stressful ttc #3! Fx this is your cycle [emoji175]
Netti-I'm sure it's an excited type of nervous right? I get that feeling all the time! Getting closer to go time [emoji322]

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 01:28 AM
Omg ttcblue!!!! I'm so so so happy for you and beyond impressed 😮😮😮😮 cannot wait to stalk your chart every morning!! Well night for me, pretty sure sometimes you've updated if I'm late getting to sleep! Need to work our time difference!

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 01:29 AM
Ok just checked and apparently its 12.30am your time!

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Bluedreaming
July 11th, 2017, 03:15 AM
Are blueberries good for swaying blue. Fresh or frozen?


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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 03:25 AM
Halley I'm not sure 🤔 I don't think there are any magic foods as such but blueberries are super healthy so that in itself is good for blue. I have heard avacado and bananas are good for blue but again maybe because they are full of goodness?

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Bluedreaming
July 11th, 2017, 03:42 AM
Ok thank you I get there are no magic food. It would be nice though. I don't eat a lot of fruit may need to add a bit more to diet. Had blueberries for the first time in a long time.


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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 04:47 AM
Ok thank you I get there are no magic food. It would be nice though. I don't eat a lot of fruit may need to add a bit more to diet. Had blueberries for the first time in a long time.


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Blueberries are great to add to'your diet..lots of nutrients, delicious and not too many calories,,bang for your buck ;)
Like pbn said, bananas and avos are also awesome wholesome additions ;)

Ttc, wow, if you don't fall preggers with that many attempts I'd be surprised ! Did you conceive easily with your girls ?

Bluedreaming
July 11th, 2017, 06:03 AM
Thank you I have started eating bananas in the last few days too. So will definitely add more fruit to diet. I eat a lot of nuts, have egg at least once a day, cereal, chicken or turkey, feel like I am eating all day long. Have now added two bananas a day and will add blueberries as well


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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 06:24 AM
Thank you I have started eating bananas in the last few days too. So will definitely add more fruit to diet. I eat a lot of nuts, have egg at least once a day, cereal, chicken or turkey, feel like I am eating all day long. Have now added two bananas a day and will add blueberries as well


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Definitely can't hurt ;)

Max, just saw your temp spike.....wow looking gooooooog missy!!!! Fxxxxx

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 06:25 AM
Oh and PBN unless I missed it, did you get your Nipt results hon??
Did you tell your boys?? :)

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:30 AM
Yes and yes LMSM 😀 results came back with no abnormalities detected and the boys were interested for about 5 seconds 😂😂😂

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IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:36 AM
ABC - Some great advice! Hope you O soon and your timing works out.

LMSM - That's what I thought too! Yes a bit of brown spotting again....just mixed with CM, so not bad. I think it's from coughing...
Your DH might change his mind once bub is here and when your daughters say they are happy to share?

Netti- Yay! Fingers crossed! So glad DH is on board.

PBN3 - Here it is https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Maxim - So excited for you! Temps are looking fab!

Mummy2boys - Great news about holidays! How long is your break. I'm about to go back to school after a 3 week holiday :( Drop in temp could be implantation

Lola - So nice of you to keep popping back in! x

TTCblue - Fabulous! So glad all worked out in the end!!!

Halley - If you feel like you're eating all day, maybe make a smoothie? We make them each morning....banana, frozen berries, frozen mango (only 4-6 pieces otherwise it makes it too thick) and some milk. I also add some oats too. Happy to be having these again as I missed out on the LE diet.

AFM - second bloods drawn today, so will get those back tomorrow afternoon. Woke up this morning and had a great sleep....no coughing due to one panadol and no brown CM when I woke to do a test. Then started coughing from 6:30am - 8am when I dragged myself out of bed. Then had some more brown with a BM when I got up (no straining though).....So I think it's the coughing.

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:39 AM
ABC - Some great advice! Hope you O soon and your timing works out.

LMSM - That's what I thought too! Yes a bit of brown spotting again....just mixed with CM, so not bad. I think it's from coughing...
Your DH might change his mind once bub is here and when your daughters say they are happy to share?

Netti- Yay! Fingers crossed! So glad DH is on board.

PBN3 - Here it is https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Maxim - So excited for you! Temps are looking fab!

Mummy2boys - Great news about holidays! How long is your break. I'm about to go back to school after a 3 week holiday :( Drop in temp could be implantation

Lola - So nice of you to keep popping back in! x

TTCblue - Fabulous! So glad all worked out in the end!!!

Halley - If you feel like you're eating all day, maybe make a smoothie? We make them each morning....banana, frozen berries, frozen mango (only 4-6 pieces otherwise it makes it too thick) and some milk. I also add some oats too. Happy to be having these again as I missed out on the LE diet.

AFM - second bloods drawn today, so will get those back tomorrow afternoon. Woke up this morning and had a great sleep....no coughing due to one panadol and no brown CM when I woke to do a test. Then started coughing from 6:30am - 8am when I dragged myself out of bed. Then had some more brown with a BM when I got up (no straining though).....So I think it's the coughing.

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:39 AM
Iwant4kids just a quick reminder to post your chart link for me :)

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IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:40 AM
I'm trying to post and it won't let me.....I accidentally posted in the old thread....deleted it and now it's saying my post is a replica!

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:41 AM
ABC - Some great advice! Hope you O soon and your timing works out.

LMSM - That's what I thought too! Yes a bit of brown spotting again....just mixed with CM, so not bad. I think it's from coughing...
Your DH might change his mind once bub is here and when your daughters say they are happy to share?

Netti- Yay! Fingers crossed! So glad DH is on board.

PBN3 - Here it is https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Maxim - So excited for you! Temps are looking fab!

Mummy2boys - Great news about holidays! How long is your break. I'm about to go back to school after a 3 week holiday :( Drop in temp could be implantation

Lola - So nice of you to keep popping back in! x

TTCblue - Fabulous! So glad all worked out in the end!!!

Halley - If you feel like you're eating all day, maybe make a smoothie? We make them each morning....banana, frozen berries, frozen mango (only 4-6 pieces otherwise it makes it too thick) and some milk. I also add some oats too. Happy to be having these again as I missed out on the LE diet.

AFM - second bloods drawn today, so will get those back tomorrow afternoon. Woke up this morning and had a great sleep....no coughing due to one panadol and no brown CM when I woke to do a test. Then started coughing from 6:30am - 8am when I dragged myself out of bed. Then had some more brown with a BM when I got up (no straining though).....So I think it's the coughing.

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:43 AM
I hope this works!!! It keeps saying a mederator has to approve my post?!?!

ABC - Some great advice! Hope you O soon and your timing works out.

LMSM - That's what I thought too! Yes a bit of brown spotting again....just mixed with CM, so not bad. I think it's from coughing...
Your DH might change his mind once bub is here and when your daughters say they are happy to share?

Netti- Yay! Fingers crossed! So glad DH is on board.

PBN3 - Here it is https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Maxim - So excited for you! Temps are looking fab!

Mummy2boys - Great news about holidays! How long is your break. I'm about to go back to school after a 3 week holiday :( Drop in temp could be implantation

Lola - So nice of you to keep popping back in! x

TTCblue - Fabulous! So glad all worked out in the end!!!

Halley - If you feel like you're eating all day, maybe make a smoothie? We make them each morning....banana, frozen berries, frozen mango (only 4-6 pieces otherwise it makes it too thick) and some milk. I also add some oats too. Happy to be having these again as I missed out on the LE diet.

AFM - second bloods drawn today, so will get those back tomorrow afternoon. Woke up this morning and had a great sleep....no coughing due to one panadol and no brown CM when I woke to do a test. Then started coughing from 6:30am - 8am when I dragged myself out of bed. Then had some more brown with a BM when I got up (no straining though).....So I think it's the coughing.

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:50 AM
Iwant4kids I think you have one attempt with the *small* possibility of two with the attempt on o day.

Hope your cough gets better soon! Has it started with colder nights?

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Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 06:53 AM
Yay ttc!! So excited!!
Aww PBN!! Eek!! Knew your sweet little girl is healthy anyways!! [emoji8]
Iw4k: baby is perfect!
In a few months you will have a healthy newborn cradled in your arms!!



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IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 06:54 AM
Iwant4kids I think you have one attempt with the *small* possibility of two with the attempt on o day.

Hope your cough gets better soon! Has it started with colder nights?

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Really?!? I thought 2, maybe 3, but not 1.....yay!

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:58 AM
I find it very unlikely your cd10 attempt had any impact because I think you oed cd14 :)

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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 07:04 AM
Pbn: Yes at the time you posted that it was 12:30 :) I'm a little confused about my temp. It didn't spike this morning, does that mean o has not occurred? I wouldn't be surprised because I haven't had ovulation pain this time.. it would be just my luck :(

Lmsm: With dd1 I was 19 and had never in my life been on bc. It took us 8 months of trying before we fell pregnant. With dd2 I believe it was first or second cycle trying when we feel pregnant and I was still nursing. So I guess it could go either way.

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 07:13 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170711/7a8d1383671d95ec4dd22bab43d8056f.jpg

My little sister just sent me this!!!! Yay!!! First month using OPKs and second month trying.

Pbn3 - so two attempts then? Did you see we tried CD13 and cd14?


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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 07:23 AM
Iwant4kids good luck to your sister! Hope she catches the egg! And yes technically its two attempts on cd13 and 14 however I'm not sure how much the second attempt counted. You may have already oed or soon after attempt when the swimmers weren't capacitated....

Ttcblue I'm sure you'll see a spike in temp tomorrow! Remember o generally takes place 12-48 hours after pos opk. You are very well covered with your attempts ❤

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maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 07:23 AM
Good morning ladies!

Iwant4, can you post your chart?

Halley, I just noticed we are both 4dpo (assuming my o date is right).

LMSM, when are you testing??? [emoji16] I'm getting so excited for you!!

Ttc, can you post your chart? Sorry don't know why I can't see them.

I'm sitting at the Dr's office waiting for my u/s. [emoji51] They are going to measure my lining, curious what it will be. I woke up with extremely sore nipples and achy boobs - curious if anyone had that after clomid or Femara?? Temp also went higher today [emoji322].


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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 07:38 AM
Good luck maxim! Can't wait to hear how it goes!

Ttcblue I also meant to say this is a good thing! You will now have 3 attempts for sure to catch the egg! If you'd oed yesterday then realistically it may have only been one or two!

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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 07:38 AM
Max, is this what you need me to do?
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6b79c2
So excited for you, good luck at your appointment!

Pbn, does it make a difference if I've been taking my temp at slightly different times each morning? My girls have been waking me up any time between 5:30 and 6:30 and I would take my temp before getting up. I was trying to keep it at 6:30 every morning but unfortunately that wasn't possible..

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 07:40 AM
Yes and yes LMSM 😀 results came back with no abnormalities detected and the boys were interested for about 5 seconds 😂😂😂

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So friggin happy for you!!! Woohooooo :cheer: such great news :)
Ah boys will be boys..when your tummy grows bigger and can't be denied, and Bub can be felt moving am sure their interest will pick up :)

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 07:40 AM
Ttcblue no that sounds sounds pretty close to perfect. There would not be much variance in an hour I wouldn't think, two hours maybe but not one.

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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 07:43 AM
Ttcblue no that sounds sounds pretty close to perfect. There would not be much variance in an hour I wouldn't think, two hours maybe but not one.

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Ditto! Yoûre good hon, it's perfect !! ;)

TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 07:49 AM
Okay thanks ladies! Do I need to try to get another attempt tonight since temp hasn't spiked or would it be better to resume eod now that I have my 3 attempts?

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 07:49 AM
Max, looking forward to the update after your u/s!!!
The steep rise in temp, the symptoms...could go either way but def looking good to me...esp when comparing to last cycles.
I did have similar symptoms on Clomid, but I conceived 1st try on my Clomid cycles so can't compare with non successful Clomid cycles to know whether that was the drugs or early pregnancy
I am so excited for you, I have everything crossed!!!
I am 7dpo today (Tuesday) but probs won't test until Saturday maybe even Sunday...trying to be more chill about it.
Today I have had a few people stare at my belly..might be my flowy dress I wore (granted it is technically a maternity one but doesn't look it and so comfy lol).. a colleague /friend I hadn't seen for some weeks and I had lunch' we sat down, and I was saying "since I am going on leave" ( she had a split second staring at my belly) "next week when my parents arrive" ... it seemed she had a moment of "oh she's not meaning mat leave ' :rofl:
Tonight got lots of pulling af pains so don't want to get my hopes up...dizzy spells this arvo right after lunch..conflicting feelings basically lol
Anyhoo, by the end of the week, will know where I stand :)

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 07:49 AM
Max - Yes I got very achy BBs in TWW, but not so much now...Good luck! Let us know what they say. They'll probably check to see if you ovulated too. They'll find a cyst on the ovary you ovulated from...

Here's my chart:
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Bluedreaming
July 11th, 2017, 07:52 AM
Good morning ladies!

Iwant4, can you post your chart?

Halley, I just noticed we are both 4dpo (assuming my o date is right).

LMSM, when are you testing??? [emoji16] I'm getting so excited for you!!

Ttc, can you post your chart? Sorry don't know why I can't see them.

I'm sitting at the Dr's office waiting for my u/s. [emoji51] They are going to measure my lining, curious what it will be. I woke up with extremely sore nipples and achy boobs - curious if anyone had that after clomid or Femara?? Temp also went higher today [emoji322].


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I have not O yet I am hoping for a positive opk tomorrow. As today's was close


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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 07:53 AM
Okay thanks ladies! Do I need to try to get another attempt tonight since temp hasn't spiked or would it be better to resume eod now that I have my 3 attempts?
I'd go back to eod until sustained tenp rise :) how's your vajajay holding up? Mine would be in tears 😭😭

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Bluedreaming
July 11th, 2017, 07:54 AM
I hope this works!!! It keeps saying a mederator has to approve my post?!?!

ABC - Some great advice! Hope you O soon and your timing works out.

LMSM - That's what I thought too! Yes a bit of brown spotting again....just mixed with CM, so not bad. I think it's from coughing...
Your DH might change his mind once bub is here and when your daughters say they are happy to share?

Netti- Yay! Fingers crossed! So glad DH is on board.

PBN3 - Here it is https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2bbcff

Maxim - So excited for you! Temps are looking fab!

Mummy2boys - Great news about holidays! How long is your break. I'm about to go back to school after a 3 week holiday :( Drop in temp could be implantation

Lola - So nice of you to keep popping back in! x

TTCblue - Fabulous! So glad all worked out in the end!!!

Halley - If you feel like you're eating all day, maybe make a smoothie? We make them each morning....banana, frozen berries, frozen mango (only 4-6 pieces otherwise it makes it too thick) and some milk. I also add some oats too. Happy to be having these again as I missed out on the LE diet.

AFM - second bloods drawn today, so will get those back tomorrow afternoon. Woke up this morning and had a great sleep....no coughing due to one panadol and no brown CM when I woke to do a test. Then started coughing from 6:30am - 8am when I dragged myself out of bed. Then had some more brown with a BM when I got up (no straining though).....So I think it's the coughing.

Not eating all day just snacking a lot more. I normally don't eat between meals usually just drink water. Read snacking or eating 6 small meals helps sway boy. I hope I don't have that wrong


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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 07:55 AM
Okay thanks ladies! Do I need to try to get another attempt tonight since temp hasn't spiked or would it be better to resume eod now that I have my 3 attempts?
I'd say you are more than covered already, the before O attempts like you had are more likely to get you pregnant than just on or just after O...
Pbn, XX, thoughts ?

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 08:01 AM
I'd say you are more than covered already, the before O attempts like you had are more likely to get you pregnant than just on or just after O...
Pbn, XX, thoughts ?
Responded previous page :) this thread moves so fast!!

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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 08:04 AM
Not eating all day just snacking a lot more. I normally don't eat between meals usually just drink water. Read snacking or eating 6 small meals helps sway boy. I hope I don't have that wrong


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Snacking to help keep those blood sugar levels stable is indeed great for blue ;)
Needn't be much..I just get a couple of dried apricots and walnuts just to much on regularly..easy and transportable too :)

TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 08:05 AM
Thank you pbn and lmsm! I will skip tonight and do tomorrow instead. I sure hope this is the cycle for me because I don't think I can pull this off again next month :(

Pbn, I'm freaking sore lol. First time since before our girls that I've dtd more than once/twice a week, and I've never done it this often, let alone twice the same day. No way will dh be on board next month like this.

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 08:06 AM
Not eating all day just snacking a lot more. I normally don't eat between meals usually just drink water. Read snacking or eating 6 small meals helps sway boy. I hope I don't have that wrong


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Snacking to help keep those blood sugar levels stable is indeed great for blue ;)
Needn't be much..I just get a couple of dried apricots and walnuts just to much on regularly..easy and transportable too :)

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 08:08 AM
Responded previous page :) this thread moves so fast!!

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I know, I type and boom 10 posts in between making mine obsolete lol
Glad we agreed though on recommendations for TTc for fear of confusing the hella of her :rofl:

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 08:08 AM
Ttcblue if you need to go into another cycle of ttc after what you've achieved this cycle I would be more than surprised! You could literally knock me over with a feather!

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 08:10 AM
I know, I type and boom 10 posts in between making mine obsolete lol
Glad we agreed though on recommendations for TTc for fear of confusing the hella of her :rofl:
I know 😂😂😂 I'm typing away and keep seeing the T notifications popping up at the top of my screen and I'm madly typing and making typos saying 'slow down!! 😂😂😂

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 08:15 AM
Anyway I'm calling it a night! Gotta try get some sleep 😴 will see you lovely ladies in the morning!

Maxim looking forward to reading your update in the AM! I'm still on the fence as to whether your 2dpo..... time will tell though and you're covered regardless 😀❤

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maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 08:51 AM
That took forever! I got there at 7am and was already the 6th person waiting. Crazy!!

Anyway, she wouldn't tell me a THING. Like nada... u/s took about 5 mins and then she said that the doctor would read it and call me today. [emoji19] I asked her jokingly to at least tell me if my lining was thin and she wouldn't budge. So....I'll update once I know more.

Pbn, I'm also starting to wonder if I'm 2dpo today instead of 4? Looked at my last charts and O was either day of or day after positive opk, and I do seem to have a gradual rise, but maybe I'm interpreting it incorrectly? Only thing is that I usually get AF 12 days after +opk, so if I o later than I think I do, it would mean I only have a 10 day LP. [emoji848]


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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 09:49 AM
Ttcblue if you need to go into another cycle of ttc after what you've achieved this cycle I would be more than surprised! You could literally knock me over with a feather!

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You really think my chances are that good?? Oh I'm excited!! Thank you pbn. Sweet dreams, :heart:

TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 09:51 AM
Max: That sucks, the anticipation must be killing you! I'm so excited to find out if you got that egg. I really feel like this could be it for you, being your first cycle with Femara and we know you got at least 1 bd in if not 2, right? Ohhh this is going to be a long 2ww!! Fx :)

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 09:56 AM
Max: hopefully you hear something soon!
Ttc definitely think you are in for a great chance!
Halley: snacked all day long with my boys!!


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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 11:56 AM
I don't remember who posted this a while back in the June 2ww thread, but does anyone know how accurate it is?
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It has me pretty excited because I have attempts on O-4, O-2, and two on O-1 (If my temp spikes tomorrow morning that is)... :bigsmile:

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 11:58 AM
So excited for all you ladies this month!!


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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 01:09 PM
Wow there is so much going on-it's exciting!!
Max-temp is looking great! I could see 2 dpo as a possibility, not certain, but at least you know to keep that in mind when testing. Gosh, how annoying that the U/S tech wouldn't tell you a thing! Hope you get that call from your dr soon! Update us as soon as you can!!!
Halley-I see your crosshairs & temp is up a little, are you sure you haven't O'd? For some it seems like the OPKs just get slightly darker!
Ttc-I think I was the one that posted that chart awhile back. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I did get pregnant this cycle from an O-1 attempt, which is the highest chance according to the chart! I'd say you have an excellent chance this cycle with all those attempts!!! I bet you see a rise tomorrow. Who knows, it maybe on it's way to rising, but maybe it hadn't happened yet early in the AM when you temped?

Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 01:14 PM
Iwant4-I meant to add that I agree with pbn about your attempts! It does look like 1 attempt! Since that 2nd attempt was a PM attempt and your temp had already risen! Yay [emoji322]

TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 02:01 PM
Lola: That's true, I didn't think of that. So when temp spikes in the am, that indicates that ovulation occurred within the last 24 hours? Also, what do the open circles mean on the charts?

maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 03:11 PM
Halley, sorry I was looking at your chart and it says 4dpo... You still don't feel that you've O'd?

I finally got a call back from my doctor!! She said that my lining measured 8.8, which is definitely within normal limits. That is such great news, especially as I had thin lining with both of my previous pregnancies. Can that change going forward, or once it's that thick, it stays that thick? I wish I would have gone in previous months to check. When I went in several cycles ago for a cyst, the tech said that my lining was low and this was also about 3 dpo, so I'm hoping this month it's different. She also said (and I literally almost had a heart attack) that it shows definite ovulation from the left, and also possibly from the right (both sides had a corpus lutem cyst). OMG OMG OMG...is that normal???

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 03:15 PM
Eek Max!! What if you conceive twins!! That would be so awesome!!


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NACIREMADREAM
July 11th, 2017, 03:19 PM
Max I thought exactly what Mommy2apples said :) TWINS!!!!

maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 03:35 PM
No way...I'm one of the few on here (I think) that is terrified of twins! Going from 2 kids to 4 kids overnight would be so overwhelming to me! I can't get ahead of myself, not even pregnant, but omg that gave me a heart attack when she told me that.

TTC, open circles mean that timing is different than your normal time that you enter your information (I believe?).

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 03:36 PM
Yea, Max! I think I would love it! Especially b/g twins. This will be my last baby regardless when it happens.


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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 03:36 PM
Max-that is great news!! And while I think twins sounds AMAZING, I know you & DH were a little freaked out by the thought in the past-what are your thoughts now?? [emoji175][emoji175]Others please chime in if I'm wrong, but I believe you have a higher chance of having twins by releasing 2 eggs, but doesn't necessarily mean they would both be fertilized. If so, you'd have fraternal twins....I do keep saying we need someone with twins in the ddg lol [emoji12]

NACIREMADREAM
July 11th, 2017, 03:38 PM
Max I think just know this is your cycle, and you have a greater chance at a beautiful baby this month :) It's possible it's not even twins, but a big change you got one egg fertilized which is huge. FX so hard you get your baby this month!

Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 03:45 PM
Ttc-yep Max is right, open circles mean you temped at a diff time than usual. You said it was just about an hr off, so no biggie. And you're right, you could've O'd overnight or early in the AM & you would've seen an AM rise, but sounds like you may have temped before you caught your rise...does that make sense?...guessing O has occurred and you'll see the spike tomorrow morn! Fx!!!

maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 03:45 PM
Honestly, I'm just praying that it's one healthy baby and that it even worked for me! I've always thought twins would be amazing, but now having two girls already, I think 4 would just be so hard. Honestly, maneuvering around NYC is hard enough with 2 kids...just thinking about doing it with 4 (let alone a double stroller) sounds so daunting. But honestly, I'm a big believer in what is meant to be will be...but please let that just be one healthy baby girl LOL! I haven't told DH anything about it and won't even if I get a bfp this cycle because he will literally have anxiety until a first u/s confirming and he's already stressed enough with work. You're right that even if you release two eggs, it doesn't mean that they would both be fertilized. Again, she didn't say that I for sure ovulated from both sides, but I did have a cyst on both sides, so I'm not sure what that means. I went into shock and didn't ask any questions, just said "okay thanks" and hung up. LOL!!!

Thank you Nacire and Lola...I really do hope so. I am so ready to just know if this is in the cards for us. I honestly don't know if emotionally I can take too many more cycles (or months of Femara!)....

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 03:48 PM
Max this is great news!!! And as for possibly releasing two eggs try and see it as just an extra chance to conceive 😀 Absolutely does not mean both eggs will be fertilised! I've released two eggs on a clomid cycle and neither were fertilised. Fx so hard this is your cycle!!!

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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 03:48 PM
Ttc-oops I think that sounded confusing...to clarify, I think you would've seen your rise this AM if you O'd overnight or early AM, but you prob O'd in the AM, but after you temped...sometimes it's a slow rise...just my guess.

maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 03:57 PM
Thanks, PBN...that's so reassuring to hear!

ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 04:04 PM
Congrats maximbella!! That's awesome - I know what you mean about twins - I love twins but eek that would be a lot to manage!!!

Sooo my update is that both my OPKs today (two brands) were DEFINITELY negative... Way lighter than yesterdays. So I'm wondering if yesterday's 2 pm *maybe* positive test was actually positive and we should have already had our attempt :( I don't know what to do! Should we go ahead and attempt today on the assumption that yesterday's uncertain test was positive, and that maybe I'm ovulating today? Or not attempt and keep testing b/c maybe it WASN'T a positive?

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 04:23 PM
ABC: when I doubt my motto is bd.


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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 04:23 PM
ABC I would bd asap and then continue with e4d. If that was your pos opk then hopefully you o closer to the 48 side... keep testing with the opks but at least by starting e4d you'll get a chance of having an attempt in this cycle. Because youre not temping we wont know if you've oed or not so if this cycle results in a bfn I would switch to the cb dual hormone digis that test with fmu for next cycle. At least then you can assume fairly safely that o is day after solid smiley. Otherwise just do e4d all cycle :)

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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 04:24 PM
Max: I too was thinking twins when I read that! But fx you have 1 healthy baby girl to discover soon!

Lola: Thank you for helping with my charting questions. That totally makes sense because it's not just 1 open circle. I have 4 open circles. I take my temp when my girls wake me up in the morning if it's anytime between 5:30 and 6:30 (If it's before that, I go back to bed) because I thought having a couple hours of uninterrupted sleep was more important than temping at the same time every day--If you have to choose at least.. Is that right? Or should I start temping at exactly the same time every morning regardless of the various times I'm woke up? Lol.

One thing that has me concerned is I've been able to feel ovulation pain every month since having the mirena removed: February-June. This month there were no pains at all on either side so I'm worried that I didn't actually ovulate. And that would be just my luck for a cycle that was going so good.. I've read that stress can prevent ovulation, which day of positive opk was very stressful and emotional for me..

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 04:26 PM
Maxim - awesome news!!! So excited! This has to be it for you ❤️[emoji1317]❤️[emoji1317]


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ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 04:26 PM
Ok thanks Mommy and Pbn3. Pbn3 - I am actually temping this cycle so we'll see. As of this morning I had not ovulated, so hopefully there is still a chance :)

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 04:27 PM
Ttcblue always temp when you wake after longest slept unless you wake early, dont move and fall back asleep :) Only your temp in the AM will tell if you've oed. Pains are super unreliable :) you may have even had them but during the night while sleeping. O pains can happen before, during and after o

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 04:28 PM
Ok thanks Mommy and Pbn3. Pbn3 - I am actually temping this cycle so we'll see. As of this morning I had not ovulated, so hopefully there is still a chance :)
What!!!!??? Where is your chart link!!!! We need access 😀😀😀

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ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 04:49 PM
What!!!!??? Where is your chart link!!!! We need access ������

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Well I use a different app... I recently downloaded Fertility Friend but haven't really set it up yet! I'll try to do that today and input my temps from this cycle so I can share it :) My temp this morning was 97.34. My post-O temps are usually between 97.8 & 98-ish.

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:08 PM
LMSM that is a BIG dip and prime time to see an implantation dip 😀😀😀 this is exciting!!!

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mtolbert looking good 😀 congrats on keeping dh to e3d! How are the opks looking? I would think you wouldn't be far of a pos!

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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 06:22 PM
Morning ladies,

Just really quickly: woohooooo Max, two chances of conceiving, not necessarily twins, so don't get too fixated on it..though your temp is soooo promising for BFP that something is happening in there for sure ...so darn happy for you! That lining is perfect! Almost 9mm is perfect...mine was 8when Inconceived my girls ;)

Pbn- yep, was surprised how big a dip that was!! It is juuuust over cover line (36.76 for a 36.75 coverline lol)
So anxious to see tomorrow s temp now :P it's kinda given me a bit of hope ;)

Gotta run and be back soon ;)

IWant4Kids
July 11th, 2017, 09:26 PM
Omg quick post
HCG:
14dpo 277
16dpo 832




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netti02
July 11th, 2017, 09:26 PM
Sounds great iwant4 😀😁

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 09:28 PM
Those are some good numbers Iwant4kids 😀🎉🎉🎉🎉

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maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 09:31 PM
I want4, sooo happy to hear!!

LMSM, can you post your chart? So excited for you, sounds like it's a promising tww!!! [emoji120]


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Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 09:32 PM
Yay!! Iw4k!!!


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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 09:42 PM
Iwant4-great numbers! Yay [emoji322]
Max-Fx for ONE healthy bean! Soo excited for this cycle!!!
Ttc-you're doing it right! Just temp after your longest sleep, so if you sleep through the night & wake up at 5:30 instead of 6:30, then def temp at 5:30! I'm really hoping to see a temp spike for you tomorrow AM! Time will tell to see if you ovulated Fx!!!!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
LMSM-wowweee! Hope that was your implantation dip, then you could get a BFP 2 days later...which is Fri-yay your time zone right??? 🤞🏻[emoji1374]🤞🏻

maximbella
July 11th, 2017, 09:59 PM
Thanks Lola xx [emoji8]


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TtcBlue18
July 11th, 2017, 10:04 PM
Lola: I'm praying with everything in me that it spikes tomorrow, I really want those 4 attempts! No way will dh do it that many times again.

So when implantation occurs, your temp will dip? Or is that something that only happens sometimes, like implantation spotting?

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 10:06 PM
Prayers that all of you all get your bfps this cycle! It's so exciting in here right now!! Cheering every single one of you on!!


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ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 10:25 PM
Same to you Mommy2apples!

OK trying to set up this "Fertility Friend" thing... Can someone let me know if I did it right and you can see my chart?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6b9cac

We BD'd this afternoon... Eeeek! I got negative OPK's twice today... So I'm thinking yesterday was my positive & am marking it down as such for now. So we'll see. According to my temp this morning I didn't ovulate yesterday so hopefully we still have a shot this cycle w/ today's attempt! I'll still temp & test and if I get another +OPK or my temp doesn't spike in a few days we'll try again.

On another note... My 4 year old proposed marriage to me tonight :heart: I want a girl SO SO much but I must say, little boys are pretty fantastic! :car:

Mommy2apples
July 11th, 2017, 10:29 PM
Yay!! See your chart ABC!! Thank you! :)
🤞🏻[emoji1317] I can agree!! That is so sweet! Little boys are their mom's babies for sure! My four year steals my heart so much!


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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 10:30 PM
Ttc-there may or may not be an implantation dip, but it is more common in BFP charts! I had a drop in temp at 7 dpo, then temp went back up & I had a positive wondfo at 9dpo...it was more evident by 10dpo. Implantation dips may be a temp drop from approx 7-10dpo. If it's a drop in temp further along around 14/15 dpo ish, then AF is most likely about to arrive!

ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 10:31 PM
Yay!! See your chart ABC!! Thank you! :)
����[emoji1317] I can agree!! That is so sweet! Little boys are their mom's babies for sure! My four year steals my heart so much!


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Oh good thanks for letting me know!

LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 10:34 PM
Iwant4 – OMG indeed *does the “woo hoop” excited dance on office chair*
!!!!!

Max – here’s the chart hon ;)
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3abf30/

Lola – I used the calculator TTCblie shared with us a few weeks ago, and if I have implantation today, hcg would likely only be around 5/10 on Friday so unlikely to be picked up – but if I wait until Sunday it should be around 20 so a sensitive test could pick it up – so to be on the safe side, and if the temp goes back up to a good level in the next few days giving me some comfort there *might* be something there, then I will test on Sunday unless I cave before ;)
Trying to be relaxed and not rush to poas ;)

TTC – implantation dip happens both in pregnant and non pregnant charts, though it is slightly more frequent on pregnant charts – but you don’t need one to actually be pregnant ;)

ABC – how cute is your 4 y.o – too friggin adorable!!! I want a little momma’s boy too :D

Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 10:36 PM
I see your chart ABC yay!! I'll be watching your chart hoping for a rise! ...And how cute is your 4 year-olds proposal! Mommy's are always their 1st love [emoji170]

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 10:41 PM
Ttcblue an implantation dip could be explained as a secondary estrogen surge which will cause your temp to 'dip' and can happen around the same time as an implantation dip. So there's no way to know but makes it a little exciting if you're not used to seeing one! Some charts don't experience dips at all though and go on to be bfps so it's definately not something you need to see 😀

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 10:46 PM
ABC yay for chart!!! Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow morning! Speaking of which what time is it where you are?

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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 10:52 PM
Ttc-so I totally just stalked some charts in the ddg-most of us don't have our chart links anymore, but from the ones who did, I found at least 3 with dips! As others have said, you don't have to see one to get a BFP, but fun to speculate!
...AND LMSM-I'm loving your dip [emoji12] I can certainly understand your caution in wanting to test later. I had those OSOMs, which are super sensitive, which is most likely why I was able to see a BFP 2 days later. Can't wait for your BFP...looking very promising!!

ABC.2606
July 11th, 2017, 10:54 PM
ABC yay for chart!!! Cant wait to see what happens tomorrow morning! Speaking of which what time is it where you are?

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9 pm. Mountain Standard Time in western US :) :)

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 10:57 PM
Ok so I'm 8 hours behind you! I *may* be awake still when you temp 😀

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Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 11:02 PM
An implantation dip is usually described as a sharp dip in temp that almost reaches or goes past coverline. Minor dips are far more likely to be caused by a secondary estrogen surge.

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LMSM
July 11th, 2017, 11:08 PM
Ttc-so I totally just stalked some charts in the ddg-most of us don't have our chart links anymore, but from the ones who did, I found at least 3 with dips! As others have said, you don't have to see one to get a BFP, but fun to speculate!
...AND LMSM-I'm loving your dip [emoji12] I can certainly understand your caution in wanting to test later. I had those OSOMs, which are super sensitive, which is most likely why I was able to see a BFP 2 days later. Can't wait for your BFP...looking very promising!!
After you used the OSOMs, was so keen to get some - but it's pretty exxy to get them posted over here so decided not to..they were so clear to read too! :D
I do like my dip too but getting knots in my stomach from hoping that maaaaybe it could mean something - just don't want to get ahead of myself - the positive is that it is a clear and sharp dip, so unless it stays low, I guess I do have some chances that it could be implantation ;)

Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 11:27 PM
LMSM-I really liked them, but I can imagine them being really expensive to send over there! I'm thinking positive thoughts for you!! Yours is def a sharp dip as pbn described [emoji1374][emoji1374][emoji1374] Mine def wasn't that sharp, but it did correlate nicely with when I got my BFP!

Momto3girls
July 11th, 2017, 11:30 PM
Hello everyone! So I stumbled upon this site a couple of weeks ago after finally making the decision with dh to try for a 4th and hopefully a boy! It took us a while to make the decision but we are so excited to be on this journey again! We currently have 3 girls ages 12, 10 and 5 and figured it's now or never if we are going to add another.

Ok enough with my history, on to now! So I got my first positive opk last night and have been having awful cramping and fullness in my lower abdomen. So I am guessing ovulation was tonight. I don't chart so I guess we will just see if I get a bfp in a couple of weeks ( if I can even wait that long) As far as swaying, we bd'd a lot in my fertile period, we will be conceiving under a male lunar cycle , according to astrology(if I get pregnant) I eat snacks all day! I've been trying to make my diet more alkaline friendly but I am not sure how well that worked out, so I am kmfx that what we did was enough. Honestly my girls were all conceived on random days and we weren't trying so the BDing wasn't happening all that much . probably only once in a fertile window. So I am hoping since we've changed that up it will work!

Eek I am so excited for this! I just need this 2ww to fly by! Good luck everyone!

Pbn3
July 11th, 2017, 11:44 PM
Hi and welcome momto3girls!! And fx for you! Sounds like you've given it a great shot and cant wait for you to test!!

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Lolabelle
July 11th, 2017, 11:46 PM
Hi & welcome Momto3girls! You are welcome to my blue dust �� Sounds like you've made some good boy-friendly changes! Fx for you & Happy 2WW!!

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 12:01 AM
Welcome from a fellow Blue swayer, Mom3girls !!
Looks like you have done a great job for this cycle, so fingers crossed – agree the TWW would be so good if it could fly by faster! :D
When do you usually test? We are a few in the TWW or soon to be – and a few of us are blue swayers, so if you have any questions, let us know!
Did you conceive your girls easily?

(btw, I realised I didn’t answer TTCblue after you answered my question to you lol – ok so your girls were conceived either in an average time or super fast – in any case, seems like you are very fertile so your chances are oh so good hon!)

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 12:03 AM
Lola – just checked, it was the Wondfos that weren’t cheap to post over here duuuh- the OSOM I couldn’t get shipped over here at all :P so that killed that desire to buy some!

Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 12:15 AM
LMSM-well since you can get your hands on the old style frer's (right?), no need for the others anyway!

Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 12:20 AM
LMSM and anyone else that would like to weigh in 😀

Halley has asked for you opinion on her chart and if she has indeed oed which it really looks like she has. I have admitted this morning to being at a loss as it certainly looks like she oed by temps however if you look at her opks prior to cd14 they are clearly clearly negative. The only opk that came close to pos was after the temp spike. I'm attaching a long winded pm I sent explaining why I thought she hadn't oed but even I'm questioning myself now 😂😂 I have never heard of oing without a noticeable surge, so unless hers is super dooper short surge and came and went within hours it looks to me like there has been no peak or even close to peak surge prior to temp spike..... here's screenshots of the explanation. Wont let me attach to this post

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Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 12:27 AM
Here they are :) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/c136225a04058ccd486ed013d2ce9922.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/bb366bec82599ec0fd7fbfb6aae29d52.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/e0d53291fd317fd234b21e8cde857a4c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/20f8c50fe0511e240e3f4d2047a4c294.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/ad6470e9c14526437fe0c998906dac3e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/9276eaf4d943ddabe173b35332502daa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/3f0b8821c0535a2378ee5f10cf1a646a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/b9e737b3ab9eeffa3d4bbed23abf9d42.jpg

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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 12:35 AM
I guess my initial thoughts would be – opks are a great tool BUT they also can be deceiving – if you don’t have a similar concentration of hormone in the tested urine sample, it may not pick up on a surge that is effectively in the midst of happening …so overall, given the clear temp spike, there is def potential for O to have already occurred..
OR her body tried to ovulate, but never really got there – sending signs that mimic O..
I have had cycles where I was CONVINCED I had O’d – temp, opks, symptoms –only to have my fert specialist tell me with a scan it didn’t look likely and bw confirming I indeed hadn’t…
Frustrating as it may be – I think that as the opks did at some point get quite dark though not entirely positive – it might be safer assuming she did O, and just had a short surge and the temp is reflective of that?
It’s confusing I know – and we won’t 100% for sure – Halley is it worth maybe continuing testing opks to see if your body potentially gears up again and O’s or if the temp stays elevated hence leaning towards the theory O did already happen…
Sorry my essay here probs just confused the hella of every one – just a few thoughts?!

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 12:42 AM
Hang on just realised that I missed the comment you made about opks getting positive post temp spike :P don’t mind my sieve brain…:rofl:
Could it be – since the temp is taken in the AM that the surge happened overnight, and the darkest opk just picked up on the remainder of the hormone as the temp was rising that day?? Or something along those lines? I.e super fast surge and O?

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 12:48 AM
LMSM-well since you can get your hands on the old style frer's (right?), no need for the others anyway!
Oh and Lola – yes, I do have heaps of the straight FRERs – I think I have a full box of 7 plus maybe an extra 3 leftover from another box- in any case, plenty to play with if I get a BFP to do progressing POAS ^^

Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 12:55 AM
Ok so I should continue to do opks?
If I have already ovulated what cd would it have been? Sorry still learning to read the chart


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Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 12:58 AM
Hang on just realised that I missed the comment you made about opks getting positive post temp spike [emoji14] don’t mind my sieve brain…:rofl:
Could it be – since the temp is taken in the AM that the surge happened overnight, and the darkest opk just picked up on the remainder of the hormone as the temp was rising that day?? Or something along those lines? I.e super fast surge and O?
Yes and I'm thinking this is a very real possibility!!! Unusual but seems to be the most likely explanation. Also she told me just before that her cycle is usually 28 days so seems ff is quite likely right. I'm feeling really bad at the moment as I feel like instead of helping all I've done is cause her unnecessary stress 🙁 (if you're reading this Halley I'm sorry 😔)

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Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 01:00 AM
Ok so I should continue to do opks?
If I have already ovulated what cd would it have been? Sorry still learning to read the chart


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Up to you re opks. O would have been on cd14. I'm really sorry Halley xxoo

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Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 01:01 AM
Don't don't don't be sorry! It is all learning and you have taught me a lot. More importantly is the friendship we are slowly building. Thank you so very much pbn3


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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 01:07 AM
Sorry Halley you are in the midst of us thinking out loud with our rambling :rofl:
Re opks, you could continue but really the reason why I mentioned that is that it could be a back-up in case you aren’t convinced you might have O’d already… BUT thinking about it, it might just confuse you further depending on how they color (if they stay consistently light or go up and down in color etc). Would hate for you to be at loss even more! It sucks not being sure :hugs:

Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 01:19 AM
It's ok. I am just grateful for people willing to help.
Continuing opks probably would confuse me more lol
We will at least do eod 2 more times this month.
I do hope we did bd enough around cd14 if that is when I did o
I am not confident at all this time round and hesitant when the time comes to do a hpt, but would like to before af comes.

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Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 06:15 AM
Ttcblue that's a very pretty spike you have there! Did you dance a little jig 😀

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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 06:16 AM
Halley, continuing eod a bit longer is likely the (and less stressful) way to go :)

Maaaaxxxx... look at that temp rise , omg!!! :cheer:

Please could we fast forward time to this weekend?! The what ifs are killing me :nails:

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 06:18 AM
Pbn: I did!!! I'm so happy! My dd1 never wakes up at night, but she did this time. Woke me up at 5, which is 30 min earlier than any time I've ever tempted, and 90 min before my usual time. But I had to get up with her because she wet the bed so I took the temp early and danced with my baby. She said "Mama, why you happy? I peed in my bed" :rofl:

Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 06:19 AM
Awww that is just the sweetest 😍😍

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Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 06:20 AM
Maxim I cant wait until testing time rolls around for you! What dpo do have in mind?!

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Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 06:25 AM
Thank you LMSM. DH is very confident with this month despite everything that has/is happening. I'm just worrying and that's not going to get me anywhere.
He wants me around 10-11dpo to do a hpt. I'm not so sure the uncertainty about everything has me doubting it all.


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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 06:35 AM
Pbn: I did!!! I'm so happy! My dd1 never wakes up at night, but she did this time. Woke me up at 5, which is 30 min earlier than any time I've ever tempted, and 90 min before my usual time. But I had to get up with her because she wet the bed so I took the temp early and danced with my baby. She said "Mama, why you happy? I peed in my bed" :rofl:
Woohoo, * dancing *!!! Look st that temp spike...and how cute was your dd :D
I was actually just looking st thus since you were asking about temp timing changing ... ;)
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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 06:36 AM
Thank you LMSM. DH is very confident with this month despite everything that has/is happening. I'm just worrying and that's not going to get me anywhere.
He wants me around 10-11dpo to do a hpt. I'm not so sure the uncertainty about everything has me doubting it all.


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It's normal to be at loss, in a few days we may gave a clearer picture either way ;)

maximbella
July 12th, 2017, 06:36 AM
Eeeek I know....but I'm trying so hard not to over analyze. [emoji51] I'm having some serious "heaviness" (that's that only way I can describe it) in my lower abdomen, feels like dull AF cramps. I'd say I'm either 3-5 dpo, what do you think?

Momto3girls, welcome!! I have 2 daughters ages 5 and 7, and we are swaying for pink again! Mine would have the same age spread as yours if we add another. Do your girls all get along? My only concern this entire time is having my older two so close in age, and the last being left out of things.


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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 06:40 AM
Oh How I hope for you!!!! Fxxxxx
Like you have some serious pulling and heaviness in my pelvis but like you am trying to be cool about it all...tryyying being the operative word! ;)
Yes, when do you reckon you'll test sweetie?

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 06:50 AM
Thanks lmsm! Love my babies :heart:

Fx max!!

maximbella
July 12th, 2017, 06:52 AM
So the same here LMSM, it's been so hard seeing months of BFN, so trying not to overthink it. Again, operative word trying! [emoji12]

I'm weighing between testing 9dpo (when I got bfp's with DD's) or waiting until 12dpo (so I don't see any more faint positives and then get AF). What do you guys think?


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Momto3girls
July 12th, 2017, 07:03 AM
Welcome from a fellow Blue swayer, Mom3girls !!
Looks like you have done a great job for this cycle, so fingers crossed – agree the TWW would be so good if it could fly by faster! :D
When do you usually test? We are a few in the TWW or soon to be – and a few of us are blue swayers, so if you have any questions, let us know!
Did you conceive your girls easily?

(btw, I realised I didn’t answer TTCblue after you answered my question to you lol – ok so your girls were conceived either in an average time or super fast – in any case, seems like you are very fertile so your chances are oh so good hon!)

Thank you all for the welcome :)

I usually test by 10dpo though I am also known to be a bit of a POAS addict so it might be sooner. So I will say the 21st at the latest!

My girls were all conceived on the first cycle.. I'm a fertile myrtle! I have also been a surrogate 3 times with no issues getting pregnant, so hopefully there will be no issues there!

I can't wait to see all the poasing!!

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 07:04 AM
So the same here LMSM, it's been so hard seeing months of BFN, so trying not to overthink it. Again, operative word trying! [emoji12]

I'm weighing between testing 9dpo (when I got bfp's with DD's) or waiting until 12dpo (so I don't see any more faint positives and then get AF). What do you guys think?


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If your chart continues to be so beautiful, you could maybe cut the pear in half and test at 10 dpo or 11 if you can stand to wait?
I have promised myself no poas until at least Friday (10dpo) but will tryyy to push it till Saturday at least :P

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 07:07 AM
Thank you all for the welcome :)

I usually test by 10dpo though I am also known to be a bit of a POAS addict so it might be sooner. So I will say the 21st at the latest!

My girls were all conceived on the first cycle.. I'm a fertile myrtle! I have also been a surrogate 3 times with no issues getting pregnant, so hopefully there will be no issues there!

I can't wait to see all the poasing!!If you are super fertile and got girls, then the he diet would make you an u er super fertile lady, you def stand with greats chances of BFP 1st try! ;) you will find that we *may* encourage the poas addict in you too haha

Pbn3
July 12th, 2017, 07:14 AM
So the same here LMSM, it's been so hard seeing months of BFN, so trying not to overthink it. Again, operative word trying! [emoji12]

I'm weighing between testing 9dpo (when I got bfp's with DD's) or waiting until 12dpo (so I don't see any more faint positives and then get AF). What do you guys think?


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Max I would wait until 12dpo as per ypur chart just in case you're only 10dpo. But it's entirely up to you. I just know how defeated those early bfns can make us feel..... by 10dpo you should hopefully see an unquestionable faint line and if you're 12dpo then chances are you'll have a really good line.

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XXforhubby
July 12th, 2017, 07:37 AM
Good morning ladies!

I think Halley most certainly did O. My BFP with my DS3, I didn't get a positive opk on either a Wondfo or a CBD testing all cycle long. I did have a clear temp rise like Halley did. I remember thinking I was out that cycle and super bummed.

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XXforhubby
July 12th, 2017, 07:39 AM
I'm SO excited for you Max! I wouldn't test until 11-12dpo. Let's see what that temp continues to do.

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Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 07:45 AM
Good morning ladies!

I think Halley most certainly did O. My BFP with my DS3, I didn't get a positive opk on either a Wondfo or a CBD testing all cycle long. I did have a clear temp rise like Halley did. I remember thinking I was out that cycle and super bummed.

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XXforhubby
July 12th, 2017, 09:05 AM
Oh, you're not annoying anyone! TTCing is hard, and we are all here for each other! Lord knows everyone has put up with my whining, moping, and rants [emoji12]!


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IWant4Kids
July 12th, 2017, 09:48 AM
Sorry didn't get around to responding and reading properly today!
For the Aussies, I'm obsessing over the book Barefoot Investor! So I've been busy setting up bank accounts etc. it's almost midnight! Catch up tomorrow. Fingers crossed for lots of great temps and positive OPKs! X


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maximbella
July 12th, 2017, 09:52 AM
Hally, I also didn't get a positive on my cheapies or digital one cycle, like xx. I definitely did O because I went in for an unrelated ultrasound and was shocked to hear that I actually did O. Everyone is different, obviously, but wanted to throw that out there.

XX, thank you so much!!! I am leaning towards waiting until 12dpo when AF is due, but geez I sometimes have no willpower! ;)

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 10:06 AM
Hally, if they were going to get annoyed by anyone's messages I'm sure it would be mine, long before yours! I'm always worried and anxious and freaking out over something. My mind just has this unique capability of always thinking the worst is bound to happen to me. I do believe you still have a great chance for this cycle (you bd eod during the fertile period if I remember right) and that means you got attempts in on either O-4, O-2 and O day, or O-3 and O-1. Either way the most pregnancies result from O-2 and O-1, so you're covered with 2-3 attempts. May even be better that you didn't know it was time because the extra stress to concieve wasn't there! Fx dear :heart:

Edited to add: I just stalked your chart. It looks like you have 3 attempts on O-3, O-1 and O day. (Someone correct me if I'm misreading the chart) What are you worried about, that's great!! 3 attempts in the fertile window with a 2 day break before O-1! That's like a perfect line up!!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 10:19 AM
Welcome
Momto3girls! 🤞🏻[emoji1317]for a baby boy!!
Phew went to sleep and slept through 4 pages! Lol
Halley: this ttc stuff is confusing! Fx crossed you indeed did ovulate! Would continue with the eod method though! I'd honestly forget about the opks the rest of the cycle, I do after a few days when it's clear the color isn't budging. You aren't annoying! lol I'm sure I annoy them at times for real!
Ttc: eek!!
Max: yay for a rise!!
Lmsm: so close!!



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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 10:24 AM
Mommy, I'm so excited! So grateful that it spiked this am! That means I got both the O-2 and O-1 I was really hoping for!! I feel really good about this cycle!

Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 10:26 AM
Ttc-I'm sooooo happy to see that beautiful spike so I know you are too! [emoji322][emoji322] You had me seriously lol with your dd's comment ;)
Max-do you still have some OSOMs? I like pbn's idea of waiting until 12dpo since there is a question of O date...or if you test early, just keep that in mind. I say do whatever you feel like at the moment...but when have we been known to stop someone from POAS?? [emoji12] It's so great that the dr has followed you every step of the way this cycle...you know you o'd, you know your lining is good...this is SO your month!! xoxo
LMSM-this is SO your month too!! Yay for having all of those straight frer's ready!
Halley-very curious situation indeed! You aren't annoying anyone, please rant away anytime!!! I believe you've O'd too. Not the first time ff has been wrong, but your temps/chart are saying you O'd despite what your opk's are saying. LMSM suggested a very possible reason with a fast surge. Fx O has happened with all that hard BD work!
Momto3girls-started to read how you were a surrogate 3 times and all I could think about is how amazing you are!! Fertile myrtle indeed as well as helping others achieve their dream...just wow!

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 10:33 AM
Lola, I know! She never gets in trouble for wetting the bed because I honestly don't believe kids can help it, but it sure did confuse her when I grabbed her up and danced with her lol!!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 10:43 AM
Ttc!! I feel good about this cycle for you too!! Can't wait to see those blazing positive lines!!

Haha Lola!! You crack me up!!


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 11:30 AM
Ttc-I can just picture that!! I can just imagine the thought process going through her young mind "I just peed in the bed & mommy is dancing with me????" Lol 🤣
Mommy-you crack me up too! "Slept through 4 pages" 🤣 So you have your cb digis ready, where are you in the cycle now?

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 11:42 AM
Lola! Yep! Don't start testing with opks until the 17th, take my last dose of clomid tomorrow :)


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 12:12 PM
Thanks mommy! I hope!

Lola: When she said that all I told her was, "The sheets will wash, today will still be a good day" and she just giggled. I'm so blessed to have 2 sweet little girls! :)

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 12:20 PM
Aww ttc! That is awesome how you reacted with her! I agree they can't help wetting the bed.


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ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 12:50 PM
Bah! So my 2 year old messed up my temping a little today!! He woke us up at 5:30 this morning which is at least 2 hours earlier than I normally temp. I didn't get out of bed (my DH took care of the 2 year old - bless him!) and I took my temp at that time which was 97.02. I laid awake for awhile before falling back to sleep and when I woke up a couple of hours later and took temp it was 97.46. My pre-O temps are typically between 97.2-97.4. So - The 97.46 was probably a little elevated from waking up at 5:30 but between that & the 97.02 at 5:30 am... I'd say I didn't ovulate yesterday!

So I don't know what's going on as far as that positive OPK followed by several negative ones!!! Sounds like I'm in good company on this board with confusion over my OPKs :) Anyways I'll keep watching and if I don't get a temp spike in the next day or two I guess we'll give it another go as far as BD-ing? I really want only one fertile period attempt so I guess if I don't ovulate in the next day or two our next attempt should be maybe Friday? (we BD-ed yesterday, Tuesday).

ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 12:50 PM
Bah! So my 2 year old messed up my temping a little today!! He woke us up at 5:30 this morning which is at least 2 hours earlier than I normally temp. I didn't get out of bed (my DH took care of the 2 year old - bless him!) and I took my temp at that time which was 97.02. I laid awake for awhile before falling back to sleep and when I woke up a couple of hours later and took temp it was 97.46. My pre-O temps are typically between 97.2-97.4. So - The 97.46 was probably a little elevated from waking up at 5:30 but between that & the 97.02 at 5:30 am... I'd say I didn't ovulate yesterday!

So I don't know what's going on as far as that positive OPK followed by several negative ones!!! Sounds like I'm in good company on this board with confusion over my OPKs :) Anyways I'll keep watching and if I don't get a temp spike in the next day or two I guess we'll give it another go as far as BD-ing? I really want only one fertile period attempt so I guess if I don't ovulate in the next day or two our next attempt should be maybe Friday? (we BD-ed yesterday, Tuesday).

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:03 PM
Are you doing every 4 days? You can make it Monday or Tuesday. I was doing the e4d as you were and found I should've been counting Friday Saturday Sunday bd Monday. It's up to you which day you prefer since you are just starting out.


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ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 01:18 PM
I don't know what I'm doing really :) We had planned to do 1 attempt at +OPK... I thought I maybe had a positive OPK on Monday but they've def been negative since then. So we did BD yesterday (Tues), but according to my temps I still haven't ovulated. So I'm still going to do the OPKs but if I don't get a temp rise tomorrow or Friday morning I'm thinking we should attempt on Friday? So it would be Tues(BD)-Wed-Thurs-Fri(BD). Does that sound right? I'm pretty sure I will ovulate by Friday b/c that would be CD 14 & my cycles are usually 24 or 25 days (I have a short LP.. 10-12 days normally).

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:23 PM
That sounds perfect! That's my plan too the e4d and one attempt at positive opk.


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ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 01:30 PM
Ok thanks!!!

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 01:31 PM
Wait I'm confused.. I thought e4d meant 3 non-BDing days in the middle.. (XoooXoooX) and e3d had 2 in the middle (XooXooX)..

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:31 PM
Welcome! Fx for you so tight!!


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:32 PM
I thought so too at first ttc. Guess depends on the person which it is. It's confusing.


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:35 PM
Someone that knows better will chime in, but would stick with your plan first abc for sure!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 01:37 PM
Yeah that's strange! So for ttc a girl they suggest you do 4 days off, bd, 4 days off, bd? Is that what they mean by e4d? Not that it makes a difference to me because I'm swaying for a boy, but that could cause a lot of confusion!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:39 PM
Here's an explanation. You can do either or, but do the 3 days in between first and then switch to the other if it doesn't work! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/f08c24e0e4a16a59d6095cdd0768aab3.pnghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/7f5c7616c3b03dd16cdde810035ca70e.png


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 01:44 PM
Ttc-that's my understanding too. E3d would mean BD on the 3rd day and E4d, BD on the 4th day. That's what I did, not sure if that was correct? You have sweet girls & your response was perfect too [emoji173]
Mommy-can't wait to watch your OPKs soon!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 01:45 PM
Me too Lola!! Fx that the dual hormones work this month!!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 02:03 PM
Mommy, it must be a difference of how we perceive it because in the pictures you shared, what I got out of the conversation, is that e4d has 3 between XoooX and e3d has 2 between XooX lol! Which is what I originally thought, but I thought you meant something different. We should probably just go with the pictures you shared before we really confuse anyone!

Edit: actually I just read them again and I think they're saying that both 2 and 3 days between bd is considered e4d :confused:

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:04 PM
I agree ttc! lol I'm going to edit my other posts so it doesn't confuse anyone else!


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ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 02:06 PM
Yea I think I initially thought e4d was 3 non-BD days in the middle but I think Atomic counts it as 2 non-BD days in the middle, but I think she thinks either approach is fine (Mommy2Apples was that screen shot post above from Atomic?). I would actually prefer to do 3 non-BD days just to make sure we're getting only 1 attempt in the fertile period, but I'm tentatively planning on Friday this week b/c Saturday would be CD 15 and I usually don't ovulate that late - so if I wait until Saturday I think I might miss it! What I'm REALLY hoping though is that I just ovulate today or tomorrow and then I won't need to worry about the next attempt this cycle :)

Btw you ladies have mentioned "dual hormone digital OPK tests". Which brands/ OPKs are those? If we don't get pregnant this cycle I think I'm switching to digital next cycle :)

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:09 PM
I'd originally seen, it from
Atomic, but that one was from 4blue2pink.
Yes! Definitely do the one you are more comfortable with! Fx so tight!
It's the purple clear blue digital with the two smileys. Blinking smiley for peak, and then no blinking smiley for positive.


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 02:11 PM
Mommy: I'm sorry, I didn't mean you are confusing people! Just that I can see how the concept is confusing due to the personal differences of how we all count days, that some may never even give a second thought to. I think ABC is right, that atomic counts days different than most but both ways are sufficient :)

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:16 PM
Ttc! It sounded confusing to me! Lol you are fine! This whole ttc thing is confusing.
I've told Halley multiple times, if ttc doesn't work this month, I'm throwing all opks, temping, and anything else out the window. Just going to enjoy bding.


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Shannshaff
July 12th, 2017, 02:17 PM
OK, so it took me 2 days to fully get caught up on all of you! CRAZY!!!

TTC - I LOVE how this cycle panned out for you, I was a bit worried for a bit that DH did in deed pull-out at the most inopportune time. But it all worked out and your pattern looks beautiful!

Max and LMSM - I am on pins and needles waiting for you all to test!

Halley - It def looks like ou O'd. Sorry that the OPKs were so confusing for you. Some months are just that way! I have been temping and charting for nearly 12 years, and I still have confusing months. :)

ABC - hoping you get a definite answer to when you Od soon!

Mommy - can't wait to see what this next month and new plan brings!

Iwant - numbers are looking fantastic and I am so happy for your BFP.

It is awesome to see so many blue swayers on here right now!! I will dump ALL of my BLUE BABY DUST on all of you!!! I have LOTS to spare. :D FXd for all of you to get your BFPs soon!

Shannshaff
July 12th, 2017, 02:19 PM
Sorry if I forgot anyone - welcome to all the new posters.

Oh Momto3girls (not really sure of your name, sorry if I am wrong) - WOW! Just wow. I have dreamed of being a surrogate, but I am getting too old. I truly wish I had done it when I was younger! You are awesome and I sure hope you get your desired little boy!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:19 PM
Shann: thank you in so hopeful for this month!! Glad you are caught up and commenting again!!


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 02:25 PM
Interesting to know ladies-I may have had it confused, but think I still ended up with 1 attempt phew!
ABC-clear blue has 2 digis & the dual hormone is the more expensive one, but it gives you a flashing smiley before your solid smiley and you use FMU. The flashing smiley indicates high fertility & detects the first hormone and the solid smiley indicates that the LH surge has been detected...so the highest chance of fertility. Once you get your solid, you stop testing, but it is great to compare with the IC OPKs. There are instructions for what day you should start using them. The other one just has the solid smiley and detects your 2 most fertile days I believe, but both great. I'd highly recommend giving it a try!

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 02:29 PM
Shann: Thank you! I was freaking out on +opk day! The only bad part about this cycle is that after that incident dh didn't want the preseed to be used anymore. He said it grossed him out and the name makes it even worse haha! So we agreed that if I didn't use the lube he would give me an extra attempt. It just sucks because I really don't make a lot of cm on my own. Though on the morning before O I had a very small amount of stretchy cm so that made me feel a little better.

Shannshaff
July 12th, 2017, 02:33 PM
TTC - glad you have a compromise. I never used anything and have 5 boys. So you may not even need it. :) Atomic always says that there is most likely some fertile cm up where it is needed and it does not always make it's way out. ;)

ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 02:35 PM
Interesting to know ladies-I may have had it confused, but think I still ended up with 1 attempt phew!
ABC-clear blue has 2 digis & the dual hormone is the more expensive one, but it gives you a flashing smiley before your solid smiley and you use FMU. The flashing smiley indicates high fertility & detects the first hormone and the solid smiley indicates that the LH surge has been detected...so the highest chance of fertility. Once you get your solid, you stop testing, but it is great to compare with the IC OPKs. There are instructions for what day you should start using them. The other one just has the solid smiley and detects your 2 most fertile days I believe, but both great. I'd highly recommend giving it a try!

Ok perfect! I'll plan on getting some of those if things don't work this cycle :) Using FMU seems a lot more convenient too!! :)

XXforhubby
July 12th, 2017, 02:39 PM
Ladies, Atomic is very flexible on E4D or E3D. E4D has 2-3 days in between (3 being pinker) and E3D is 1-2 days in between (2 days being pinker). The reason for the discrepancy sometimes is due to people being antsy about TTCing. Some people have short cycles and would miss their fertile window or not have an attempt with good odds of conception. Likewise, some people have crazy long cycles and BDing more frequently would cause too many attempts in the fertile window. Pick a pattern and stick with it based on your average cycle length, or go with what will make your DH the most happy!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 02:42 PM
Shann: That's great! Makes me feel much better! I've always kinda wondered that because initially bd is uncomfortable for me, but once we get started it doesn't feel like it's dry in there at all. I've always speculated that it just doesn't make its way out very easily.

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:46 PM
Xx! Thanks! Mines shorter so I'm excited about the e3d!


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Skyblue
July 12th, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oh my god. I thought I would never be able to catch up with u all chatty ladies. [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]
So thrilled I could. ❤️❤️
Max- I am patiently waiting for
You to start POAS. I have everything crossed for you. [emoji1317][emoji1317] for a bfp. 🤞🤞
Ttc - I am so happy that you were able
to have three attempts in. Yay [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]
And saw the beautiful temp rise. Fx for you. And u r such a wonderful mom for handling the bed wetting so beautifully and lovingly. ❤️ How cute would that dance have been. ❤️❤️
LMSM - I know you are waiting to POAS but I am counting days till Saturday. Fx so so so tight.
Mommy2apples- So excited for you to start using the digis. They really take the guess work out. 🤞🤞 for this cycle. Will be cheering you on.
Halley - I have asked so so so many questions here but all I ever got was support and answers. That's why I call this my safe place. Ask away dear. These ladies are the best. This whole ttc thing is super confusing for all of us. I also feel that u O'd too. Ff has been wrong about my cycle a lot including the one where I got my bfp. I had to remove temps for a few days to correct it as advised by Pbn. Fx for you.
Momto3girls - Welcome.How awesome you are to have been a surrogate 3 times. Respect. I agree with others that you are a fertile myrtle indeed and that will help u get your blue bundle. 🤞🤞
I hope I didn't miss anyone. Will be cheering you ladies on.



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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 02:57 PM
Thank you Sky! You are the sweetest!3702937030 hair with the highlights :)


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 02:57 PM
Ladies, Atomic is very flexible on E4D or E3D. E4D has 2-3 days in between (3 being pinker) and E3D is 1-2 days in between (2 days being pinker). The reason for the discrepancy sometimes is due to people being antsy about TTCing. Some people have short cycles and would miss their fertile window or not have an attempt with good odds of conception. Likewise, some people have crazy long cycles and BDing more frequently would cause too many attempts in the fertile window. Pick a pattern and stick with it based on your average cycle length, or go with what will make your DH the most happy!


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If e3d is 1-2 days between.. Isnt that the same as eod? So.. xoxoxo pattern can be used for blue and pink swayers??

Skyblue
July 12th, 2017, 02:58 PM
Ok perfect! I'll plan on getting some of those if things don't work this cycle :) Using FMU seems a lot more convenient too!! :)

Hi ABC - Sorry I missed you. The dual
Surge ones are great because of the fmu. Just read the instructions and start POAS based on the cycle length. It tells you the day u should start testing based on the cycle. Fx for you.


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Skyblue
July 12th, 2017, 03:01 PM
Oh my Mommy2apples. Love that color and your hair. I really love that haircut. I have a broad face so I can't get that one but I always get dd's haircut like that. And love it on her. [emoji4][emoji4]She likes it too. U
Look amazing.


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Thanks sky! I love the hair cut too! Usually my goto hair style, b cause my hair is funky long! Lol have no control of it!
I love that the hairstyle can be used for any age.


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 03:07 PM
Thank you sky! I can't even express how happy I am with this cycle! There's nothing that I think i could have done better like there was last cycle. It will be devastating if all this hard work is not enough to catch that egg. Last cycle I didn't expect to concieve. I didn't even have high hopes or anticipation or anything until I noticed pink spotting and that's what convinced me. For af to show up was very confusing, but not discouraging. This time is totally different. If AF shows up this time i feel like it will completely break my hope.

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Ttc! I truly feel like this is your month!! Praying so hard for you!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 03:13 PM
Thank you mommy! That means so much :heart: I just can't imagine being able to have a better sway or better attempts next month because this cycle was a complete and total one time thing with dh. And if I don't get it this time I've only got next cycle..

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:13 PM
I told him not to climb in the toy box... lol 37031


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:14 PM
Hugs ttc! Welcome!!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 03:20 PM
Also, I wasn't going to share this for fear of being "that weirdo" but I know some of you believe in signs the same way I do.

Last night I was taking a bath and noticed something floating in my bath water. At first I thought it was a piece of toilet paper that must have stuck to my foot when I got in, but when I picked it up, it was a sticker. It was folded over and I couldn't peel it apart without it ripping. I have no idea what or where it came from or how it got in my bath with me, but here's a picture.

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And then this morning my temp spiked, so yesterday was O. I laminated this sticker lol.

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:21 PM
Ttc! That's definitely a sign!! I love that! You know I believe in signs!!


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 03:22 PM
Mommy: He is so precious!! Hugs to you too!

Ps I know! Youre the main reason I decided to post it :)

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:26 PM
Thank you!! I'm so excited for you!!


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 03:38 PM
This is another one of my signs! An outfit with this saying popped up on my Facebook awhile back. So I googled the quote and the name both my husband and I chose for a girl popped up with the saying underneath! God gives us signs for sure! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170712/8ebd3fd5ca418f08938f68fb8ea4aaa2.png
Emmalyn Grace :)


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Shannshaff
July 12th, 2017, 04:13 PM
Awesome signs guys!!!

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 04:13 PM
That's amazing!! Not a very common name either so i would definitely say it's a sign!!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 04:13 PM
Thanks Shann! :)


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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 04:14 PM
That's what I thought ttc! :)


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TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 04:15 PM
Oh and beautiful name too!! I love that you took "grace" from the quote to use as the middle name too!

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 04:30 PM
Thanks ttc! I think it's meant to be! :)


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 06:45 PM
Ttc & Mommy-I totally believe those are signs...that sticker-so cool & the name, beautiful & meant to be!!
Mommy-your hair looks so pretty & fresh with those new highlights & great cut! I'm SO overdue for highlights, but I worry about doing anything in the first trimester. When do any of you feel it's ok to get highlights when preggo??

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 06:57 PM
Lola they say anytime, but honestly I always waited until 12 weeks!
Thanks Lola! I really like my hair for sure! Yep, love the name! :)


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maximbella
July 12th, 2017, 07:05 PM
Lola, I always do blonde highlights, but have also waited until after the first trimester with both DD's.

Momto3girls
July 12th, 2017, 07:24 PM
Hi and welcome momto3girls!! And fx for you! Sounds like you've given it a great shot and cant wait for you to test!!


Thanks! I can't wait either! Do you think I could get a positive at 1DPO?? lol


Hi & welcome Momto3girls! You are welcome to my blue dust �� Sounds like you've made some good boy-friendly changes! Fx for you & Happy 2WW!!

Thank you! I can use all the blue dust I can get !! I hope this 2ww flies by!


Eeeek I know....but I'm trying so hard not to over analyze. [emoji51] I'm having some serious "heaviness" (that's that only way I can describe it) in my lower abdomen, feels like dull AF cramps. I'd say I'm either 3-5 dpo, what do you think?

Momto3girls, welcome!! I have 2 daughters ages 5 and 7, and we are swaying for pink again! Mine would have the same age spread as yours if we add another. Do your girls all get along? My only concern this entire time is having my older two so close in age, and the last being left out of things.



Girls are awesome! A little hormonal at times but awesome :) We love our girls and wouldn't be upset with another one, but it would be nice to have a boy :) The littlest is left out sometimes, but my middle daughter does play with her quite a bit. They don't get along great all the time, especially with my oldest. My middle daughter is a bit of a shit disturber so she causes a lot of drama.


If you are super fertile and got girls, then the he diet would make you an u er super fertile lady, you def stand with greats chances of BFP 1st try! ;) you will find that we *may* encourage the poas addict in you too haha

Yay I can't wait! Encourage away! I have no willpower! lol


Welcome
Momto3girls! 🤞🏻[emoji1317]for a baby boy!!
Phew went to sleep and slept through 4 pages! Lol
Halley: this ttc stuff is confusing! Fx crossed you indeed did ovulate! Would continue with the eod method though! I'd honestly forget about the opks the rest of the cycle, I do after a few days when it's clear the color isn't budging. You aren't annoying! lol I'm sure I annoy them at times for real!
Ttc: eek!!
Max: yay for a rise!!
Lmsm: so close!!



The board moves so fast!! I came from babycenter that was way too slow for my liking and now I am feeling a little in over my head lol Thank you for the boy juju!


Ttc-I'm sooooo happy to see that beautiful spike so I know you are too! [emoji322][emoji322] You had me seriously lol with your dd's comment ;)
Max-do you still have some OSOMs? I like pbn's idea of waiting until 12dpo since there is a question of O date...or if you test early, just keep that in mind. I say do whatever you feel like at the moment...but when have we been known to stop someone from POAS?? [emoji12] It's so great that the dr has followed you every step of the way this cycle...you know you o'd, you know your lining is good...this is SO your month!! xoxo
LMSM-this is SO your month too!! Yay for having all of those straight frer's ready!
Halley-very curious situation indeed! You aren't annoying anyone, please rant away anytime!!! I believe you've O'd too. Not the first time ff has been wrong, but your temps/chart are saying you O'd despite what your opk's are saying. LMSM suggested a very possible reason with a fast surge. Fx O has happened with all that hard BD work!
Momto3girls-started to read how you were a surrogate 3 times and all I could think about is how amazing you are!! Fertile myrtle indeed as well as helping others achieve their dream...just wow!

Aww Thanks :) I loved being able to help people. There was a family I wasn't able to help due to non-viable embryos, which I still think about all the time. I wish I could help them all.


Sorry if I forgot anyone - welcome to all the new posters.

Oh Momto3girls (not really sure of your name, sorry if I am wrong) - WOW! Just wow. I have dreamed of being a surrogate, but I am getting too old. I truly wish I had done it when I was younger! You are awesome and I sure hope you get your desired little boy!

You got it right :) Thank you so much! Psst i've known surrogates in their 40s ;)


Oh my god. I thought I would never be able to catch up with u all chatty ladies. [emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]
So thrilled I could. ❤️❤️
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Momto3girls - Welcome.How awesome you are to have been a surrogate 3 times. Respect. I agree with others that you are a fertile myrtle indeed and that will help u get your blue bundle. 🤞🤞
I hope I didn't miss anyone. Will be cheering you ladies on.


Thank you! I am KMFX!!

Thank you all for the warm welcome! I am trying hard to get caught up with the first half of july that I missed out on here! You seem like a fantastic group of ladies and I can't wait to get to know you all and share in my quest to have a boy!

Crystal

Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 07:24 PM
Just would like to thank you all for you support and lovely comments. I feel better now after reading them all.
Really do hope you all get your bfp if you haven't already [emoji170][emoji175]


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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 07:33 PM
All these signs ladies, FX so hard for you!
Mommy, now that you will have finished Clomid, it’ll be opk time soon, yippee!! :D

As for the e4d/e3d debate – I think it’s good more me that the e2d is for blue, it’s more straight forward :rofl: if I extrapolate, eod means there is 48h between BD (otherwise if it was 24h like Monday night 8pm then Tuesday night 8pm - ish it would be every day ^^) = so logically e3d, 72h between BD and e4d, 96h?
- eod BD Monday night 8ppm then Wed night 8pm? (no BD T so 1 full day in between)
- e3d BD Monday night 8pm then Thursday night 8pm ( no BD T,W so skipping 2 full days in between)
- e4d BD Monday night 8 PM then Friday night 8pm? (no BD T,W,T so skipping 3 full days in between)

Sounds like e3d and e4d (more so the latter) is very pink friendly – so I think you are well covered, pink swaying ladies ^^

Mommy – looking good chicky! Love the hair :D I’m so overdue for a trip to the hairdresser – it’s been close to a year haha – I think I will try to go when my parents arrive next week and we go away – I will have babysitters at hand for a few days so kinda now or never! ;)

TTCblue – re bed wetting but I think you are right, not making a big deal of it is key ;) my DD1, who had not had a night accident in over 6 months has spent the last month having accidents at night every few days – given it’s winter here it is hell to get the sheets dry –In my case I think the cold plays a big part as this is the first winter for her without nappies at night (she was day and nap toilet trained by 22 months)… so my mum is bringing over some more mattress protector sheets so I can have more spare as they take the longest to dry ;) She is so cute about it too, love her so much!

Gosh girls that have a 3rd kid already, can one’s heart keep expanding to love another? I know it does, it did when my 2nd came along – but man the love, the love!! So much of it <3 I think hubby is worried I might never stop wanting more haha
I was watching ‘One born every minute the other night’, and told hubby – “for this baby I would love to birth at home” (especially with my precipitous labours history) but we agreed getting a private midwife is too expensive (in other states there are some publicly funded home birth programs, alas not in Queensland) – I realise I have made this future bub a part of our family already – and it scares me to maybe not have that come to fruition - #3 is already so vividly present in our minds that I’m worried I’m over”capiitalising” a child that doesn’t even exist yet or may even never exist.
Does that make any sense? Sorry for my usual rambling haha

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 07:50 PM
Definitely lmsm! Tomorrow is the last dose! So excited about this month! Thank you! I cannot wait to see your hair!! Good idea to wait until your parents get there!
Oh yes! You won't believe how much you love each if your babies! I feel ya girl! Number 5 is awaiting us, just like your 3rd is awaiting you!!


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 08:14 PM
OMG-I'm an emotional mess, what in the world was I thinking watching Marley & Me again tonight? I watched it when it first came out, but gahhh, don't remember feeling this sad. I guess I watched it before we had kids. Interestingly, in the movie, they had 2 boys first and then 1 girl!!
Max & Mommy-thanks for the input, I was thinking I should wait. I go back to work at 14 weeks, so maybe I can get some highlights before I go back to the start of a fresh school year!
LMSM-I think it's completely natural to visualize our hopes and dreams of the future with our babies, even before they exist! It made me really sad when I had the chemical b/c I had already thought so far ahead, thinking about creative ways to share the news, the dd being so close to my mom's bday, what baby will be like etc...you just imagine a whole future ahead. You will get your 3rd!! This cycle looks so amazing for you!! I hope & pray this is the ONE!! [emoji173]

Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 08:16 PM
Definitely!! That will be perfect Lola!
Lola I haven't watched that movie since my oldest was my only child! Lol he cried when Marley died and hated that movie after.


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Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 08:35 PM
Mommy, def not a good one to watch while preggo!! No clue what I was thinking lol. There are some other tear jerker moments in the movie that I completely forgot about & then yes, the end ughhhh! [emoji24]

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 08:39 PM
Okay sorry for the random questions but I just had a few things come to mind..

Do I still need to get 1-2 extra attempts in to cover delayed O, or does temp rise mean O has definitely occurred and I no longer need the extra attempts? I would like to go back to e4d until af because dh doesn't like "required sex" lol.

Is there a such thing as eating too much on the HE diet? I usually keep calories around 2500 and pay extra attention to nutrition, but I swear today I am a bottomless pit! I've already eaten 2500 calories with nutrition off the chart and I'm actually hungry. Not to mention is only 7:30 so I usually eat 2 more times between now and bed... This has never happened, I'm usually stuffed on this diet. I have no idea why I'm so hungry lol.

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 09:25 PM
Lola – what have you done? I cried my eyes out watching that movie, and that was before kids, and not preggo – heck I cry at some ads at times, so am a lunatic though :rofl: – crazy lady, what have you done to yourself !? ;)
Hope you get to watch a lighter, not so emotional movie soon to cheer you up – any silly series to watch and laugh before the day ends?! :hugs:

TTCblue – hungry?? Pregnant? :D I can’t tell you if it means anything as I’m actually not hungry and struggle to eat enough – feeling too full gah – I can manage liquids well, like I had no issues getting amilky tea down this am but struggled getting through a small bowl of cereals without gagging… for me that could just be PMS though – for you probs too early for anything butttt if it’s unusual for you, it’s not unlikely that it could be linked to a little bean ^^
It seems pretty safe to assume you have O’d already (*checks chart again *) – look at that spike in temp – I mean, look at that riiiiise! You’d probably be pretty safe to go to e4d or so now if that’s what you prefer – we haven’t had sex in like 4 days now so think tonight will have to, though am knackered – hubby tried an approach last night but I just promptly fell asleep :rofl:

Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 09:48 PM
Hahaha LMSM-I know, big mistake! I didn't remember being this emotional when watching it before! I was trying to hold back the ugly cry this time [emoji24]Thanks [emoji173]That's exactly what I'm doing...both boys are sleeping & now watching My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2...much lighter...def needed a comedy!
Ttc-I agree! Def looks like you O'd, think you're safe to go with e3 or 4d. I'm interesting to watch your temps over the next few days. I fully expect to see high temps & you'll get crosshairs after 3 high temps!

Lolabelle
July 12th, 2017, 09:53 PM
Ttc-and I don't know much about the HE diet, so I'll let the blue swayers chime in. BUT I do know that's how I feel right now being pregnant-a bottomless pit & not my usual. Maybe you worked up an appetite after all of that BDing?

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 10:15 PM
Lola – glad to see you can lighten the mood with some funny movie! Haven’t even seen the 1st of my big fat greek wedding movies – sounds like it’s worth it for a light-hearted session ^^

Oh and yes TTC, not an issue per se for blue swaying – health wise if you eat only junk for long periods, not ideal – but not an issue if just sporadic – won’t hurt your sway – much better off eating more than less, especially though if you can make it * mostly *nutritious choices (which, let’s face it we don’t always feel like lol).

netti02
July 12th, 2017, 11:12 PM
Hi Ladies

LMSM- ikwym. Its natural to think ahead and envision future babies as part of the family yet I understand the anxiety. I didn't realise you were in Aus! Me too. Your heart will certainly expand with all that love. I have 5 and my husband says im glowing all the time 😂

Ttcblue-crazy signs with that sticker 🤔 fx and im sending blue dust. Ive got semi trailer loads 💫💫💫

Mommy- i love the name. Definite signs everywhere. Love the hair 😁

Halley- i feel you on the opks. Some cycles ive used them they've been great. Shows clear surge and it fades out. Others its been days and days if 'building up' then a positive for a few days.

Hi Lola hope you are well.

Hi ABC and anyone else I've missed.

Just finished 2 night shifts and im off for a nap.

Im keeping better tabs of my opks. This months egg is really building up i don't normally have lines showing up so soon.

I also don't understand why cd7 seems darker. I think they will do this for the next week then darken up. CP is good and CM is changing.

Is anyone testing soon.

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Mommy2apples
July 12th, 2017, 11:16 PM
Thanks Netti! :)
Glad you finally get a rest!
Fx for this being your cycle!
Opks just confuse me, but have my fx!!


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netti02
July 12th, 2017, 11:24 PM
Thanks Mommy. I just realised i made a typo. Cd 7 is darker. I might try one of the more renowned brands. They can be expensive though 😐

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ABC.2606
July 12th, 2017, 11:31 PM
Wow this is a busy thread!! I'm trying hard to keep up & keep track of everyone and where they're at but I'm not doing a very good job yet! :) July is a busy month it seems!! It's fun to see lots of blue swayers on here... May you take all of my blue dust :) :)

I'm sure this is asked a lot on those boards but for those doing the coffee & alcohol for pink sway, are you still consuming them during the TWW? I know there are different views on drinking alcohol before you know you're pregnant & I'm guessing it's recommended to cut back on the caffeine intake as early as possible to avoid the miscarriage risks but I guess I don't know what we're supposed to do as far as the sway. Do we stop entirely or just cut back on these two things until AF arrives/BFN, then start up again until the next O? In the past 4 months of this dieting I've really gotten addicted to my multiple cups of coffee in the morning and my wine at night... Def going to miss those whenever we get pregnant :) Although I will enjoy eating more food again!!

LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 11:36 PM
Netti – woohoo for O gearing up! :D enjoy your nap!
Did you use opks before or is this new for you? Do you know if you tend to surge fast or not – i.e. does it build up gradually over days before the pos opks or does it change fast?
You’re not temping are you? If you are, please share your chart!
Yep, am in Brisbane - where in Aus are you?
I wish I could be told I’m glowing even with two lol hubby never tells me stuff like that, but then again, we haven’t slept well in years haha well, he did tell me I looked good in the new dress I bought the other day so I take that as a massive compliment already haha

I *think* Max and I are probs going to be the next poas’ers? I’m now 9dpo (will likely test maybe Saturday – maybe Sunday if I can manage to wait it out) and she’s not too far behind me (3 or 5dpo depending on when you agree O is) – and TTCblue is in the TWW too just waiting on crosshairs on FF ;)
Halley likely will be confirmed as being in the TWW, due to uncertainty re O – not sure which dpo we’d say you are at now hon? Sorry didn’t save your chart yet ^^

And we have quite a few ladies in the waiting game for O too :D

I am pretty sure it would be ok, but in case I might be up the duff, a warm bath tonight would be ok, you reckon? I never had a bath tub until recently so would like to use the beautiful bath bombs my girls made for mothers’ day – and my muscles are tense so I think I would enjoy it – as long as it’s not stinking hot, it’s ok right?
I’m being paranoid surely :rofl:

Bluedreaming
July 12th, 2017, 11:41 PM
LMSM: if I Oed on cd 14 I am currently 6dpo. But hesitant to even think of a hpt. Hubby wants me to try on Monday which will be 10dpo.


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LMSM
July 12th, 2017, 11:43 PM
ABC – yes, we are a chatty bunch – and because we are from different places around the globe there’s always some form of activity lol

I would say your best bet for risk/benefit for both sway and protection of a potential pregnancy (reduce chances of m/c) – just cutting back should be fine (maybe make that glass of wine a bit smaller for instance ^^). That way if you need to keep dieting for another month, you have kept up with the sway. And if you are pregnant, it’ll just be a matter of cutting out what you can’t have pregnant ;)
Things don’t cross the placenta until you usually find out (4 weeks ish, when placenta is formed and fully effective? I think?) anyways, so as long as reasonable intake it should be fine...I am a paranoid and don’t do any booze at all in the tww, but then I rarely drink anyways – and limit intake of caffeine : in this case for me as am swaying blue, I just drink a couple of lightly brewed black teas with milk instead of coffee for the sway anyways and only have the odd coffee before O and none in the dpo period – but that’s just me ;)

TtcBlue18
July 12th, 2017, 11:55 PM
Lmsm & Lola thank you for the answers! I appreciate it. :) I'm just too tired to want to bd again tonight, so I'm glad I don't have to lol. And noooo I didn't mean is it a sign of pregnancy lol! I'm 1dpo! There's no way a bean is in there :rofl: I just wanted to know if I was hurting my sway at all by consuming a whooping 3000 calories today lol! All healthy eating, but just completely blows my mind how hungry I am today. First time I haven't had to force myself to eat since starting the he diet. I just woke up to eat again too!

Netti: Thank you! Semi trailor loads, that got me lol.

LMSM
July 13th, 2017, 12:04 AM
LMSM: if I Oed on cd 14 I am currently 6dpo. But hesitant to even think of a hpt. Hubby wants me to try on Monday which will be 10dpo.


https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6b531dHalley – wow , already 6dpo potentially! Don’t know why I had stayed stuck on like 4dpo hehe So you will test just after me :D and there is no pressure to test , only you can decide when to – as much as your hubs is keen for you to do it Monday – he is convinced it worked, is that why he is that eager?

LMSM
July 13th, 2017, 12:07 AM
Even 3000 calories would be ok if not all the time – and if nutritious healthy stuff, then it’s more for weight management that you might not want to consume that much all the time ;) hey, even at 1dpo, hormonal changes happen so why not? The progesterone makes one tired and sleepy, why not hungry too?! ;)

Bluedreaming
July 13th, 2017, 12:09 AM
Halley – wow , already 6dpo potentially! Don’t know why I had stayed stuck on like 4dpo hehe So you will test just after me :D and there is no pressure to test , only you can decide when to – as much as your hubs is keen for you to do it Monday – he is convinced it worked, is that why he is that eager?

It will either be Monday or Tuesday.
Lol yes he is very excited.
When I fell pregnant last time. It was not planned but would not change it at all. She is a gorgeous little girl. We were just deciding to have fun for a few days and then completely forgot about it. Out of the blue one day I said I wanted to do a hpt, it was evening so I was very doubtful. It was a bfp. So with that in mind and him knowing all the work we put into it. He is very positive


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LMSM
July 13th, 2017, 12:50 AM
It will either be Monday or Tuesday.
Lol yes he is very excited.
When I fell pregnant last time. It was not planned but would not change it at all. She is a gorgeous little girl. We were just deciding to have fun for a few days and then completely forgot about it. Out of the blue one day I said I wanted to do a hpt, it was evening so I was very doubtful. It was a bfp. So with that in mind and him knowing all the work we put into it. He is very positive


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Oh with such great fertility, and adding a sway that works in favour of boosting fertility even more - you have nothing to worry about ;)

mtolbert1
July 13th, 2017, 01:45 AM
Pbn- I took the only opk I had this morning and it was negative :/ we live 30 minutes away from the nearest store so I dont know when or if I will be able to get more! DH is refusing to stick to e3d now so I guess we'll see how it goes this month and if I dont get a BFP, im putting my foot down next month and were doing it my way! Lol.
How are my temps looking? I have no idea what they mean!


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mtolbert1
July 13th, 2017, 01:46 AM
Sorry for my delayed response, we had to suddenly (temporarily) move in with DH great grandparents to take care of them and I get practically no service at all. :/

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mtolbert1
July 13th, 2017, 01:47 AM
Also, if I can't get more opks, how do I know when to start taking pregnancy tests?

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