Awesome April 2ww & TTC thread [emoji120]

[hannahptrussell]

Verena, hoping for nerves to be calmed!! And answers to be found.
Emshe, that was a strong positive! And I have a short surge so it wasn’t a surprise that another one didn’t pick it up. I’d go by that dip stick positive if it were me.
We did the SMEP this month and I started progesterone suppositories around 4dpo. I think that was our trick. Even if it wasn’t the strongest sway for girl. Either way, praying this one keeps on sticking. Here is SMU test from today
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[Parying4agirl]

Looking good hannah - congrats

Have you got any symptoms Verena?

[Girlswaylondon]

So happy about your scan, verena! :D

[hannahptrussell]

Thank you so much ladies! I'm completely overwhelmed! We did not only see a sac, but also some "fetal structures", my OB said it's the yolk sac. That's by far more than we saw with DS1 and 2 at the same time. I'm so relieved, I can't believe what just happened! I'll throw my hpt's in the waste bin now! [emoji2]
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Verena!!!!! That is amazing!!!!!


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[ABC.2606]

Oh Verena YAY!!!!!! That's so amazing!!!! Wow that's a lot seen for 5 weeks!! I'm glad you are happy and relieved - grow little bean, grow!!! SO happy for you!!!

Well my ultrasound was not nearly as exciting as Verena but I did get good news - no fibroids, polyps or scar tissue. Uterus looks very normal ("gorgeous" in the doctor's words). So, we're now just waiting for DH's chromosome results. If that is normal, the RE says it was probably bad luck 3 times in a row. Crazy. Of course it puts a little bit of fear/guilt back into me that maybe swaying is the reason for all of this. Probably not and I'm trying not to think that, but it's just weird.

I do have a very big follicle/cyst on my right ovary that she said is probably left over from the miscarriage (like an egg that tried to ovulate that cycle I got pregnant but didn't I guess?). She said it should resolve on it's own but she wants to recheck it after my next period starts to make sure it's gone. Bleh. But she said it's pretty common for that to happen.

Hannah looks good!! I may have asked you this already and if so I'm sorry but have you made an appointment or will you get any betas done? Praying this is your sticky bean!!!!

[Eighme]

AF arrived a day early, looks like it's still not my turn yet! Hopefully next cycle. Wishing everyone else BFP's this month!!

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[mummy2boys]

Congrats sunstars [emoji322]Hannah that's looking great, hope it keeps on getting darker for you [emoji106]
Amazing news about your scan verena, wow! You must be so relieved. Yeah definitely throw them tests away now and enjoy it.
ABC that sounds really positive! It's frustrating to think it's bad luck but also reassuring that hopefully your sticky baby will be here soon as there are no problems. Fingers crossed your other half's chromosome tests come back ok too. How are you feeling in yourself?
Eighme, sorry AF came [emoji17]
Well I'm really cross with DH who has just decided to pull out at the vital moment. He hasn't been completely on board with ttc and obviously had a change of heart. I'm hoping yesterday's bd will be enough [emoji17]


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[ABC.2606]

Sorry eighme :(

Mummy - thanks! I feel OK - relieved, as this morning I was pretty stressed out about the ultrasound. Glad we're only waiting for DH's results now. Wondering if we might go ahead and try next cycle - I just don't know. Ugh that must have been frustrating with DH!!! I may have missed this, but did you get a +OPK today?

[mummy2boys]

Yeah it's hard to know what to do for the best isn't it. I really wanted to try straight away but at the back of my mind I'm worried I've not given my body enough time to recover. Just take it a day at a time I reckon and see how you feel when you get nearer to ovulation time.
I got a positive opk yesterday and it's negative again today, I must have a really fast surge. So I'm hoping I ovulated today and my temp will rise tomorrow 🤞🤞


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[Mommy2apples]

Verena! Such great news!
ABC Dh’s cousin has her healthy rainbow after three losses! You are going to get yours too! [emoji175]
Mummy! That is so frustrating! [emoji1317] you caught that egg anyways!


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[Pbn3]

Verena that's amazing [emoji7]!!

Abc trust in your instinct [emoji173] if its telling you next cycle is too soon then I would wait. If you feel comfortable trying then go for it. You will know when its time xo

Mummy2boys a bd today wouldn't have likely contributed to conceiving if you o today so don't be too disappointed. You have a 2-o and a 1-o attempts and seriously cant get any better than that. How exciting!!!! Cant wait to see your next temp and fx fx fx its in post o range [emoji120]

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[ABC.2606]

Verena! Such great news!
ABC Dh’s cousin has her healthy rainbow after three losses! You are going to get yours too! [emoji175]
Mummy! That is so frustrating! [emoji1317] you caught that egg anyways!


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Thanks Mommy :) I'm overwhelmed again tonight - I just don't know how much more I can handle. I want a baby girl so dang bad but the physical, mental and emotional drain is really adding up. I told DH at dinner tonight I'm just so exhausted. We'll see I guess.

[Pbn3]

AF arrived a day early, looks like it's still not my turn yet! Hopefully next cycle. Wishing everyone else BFP's this month!!

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkSorry to hear eighme [emoji17] Enjoy a nice big glass of wine and give yourself a few days to regroup. Are you going to do e4d this cycle or something else?

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[Pbn3]

Sunstars I hope you find a new doc really soon. I'd recommend getting 48 hour betas if possible so you know and can start enjoying your pregnancy [emoji173]

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[Mommy2apples]

Thanks Mommy :) I'm overwhelmed again tonight - I just don't know how much more I can handle. I want a baby girl so dang bad but the physical, mental and emotional drain is really adding up. I told DH at dinner tonight I'm just so exhausted. We'll see I guess.

Of course you are exhausted momma. It’s completely normal, like pbn says if you feel you need more time, then take all the time you need. Heck I took a year off from ttc to fix myself emotionally and physically. [emoji175]


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[ABC.2606]

Verena that's amazing [emoji7]!!

Abc trust in your instinct [emoji173] if its telling you next cycle is too soon then I would wait. If you feel comfortable trying then go for it. You will know when its time xo

Mummy2boys a bd today wouldn't have likely contributed to conceiving if you o today so don't be too disappointed. You have a 2-o and a 1-o attempts and seriously cant get any better than that. How exciting!!!! Cant wait to see your next temp and fx fx fx its in post o range [emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thanks Pbn. The thing is if we do try next cycle I would want Clomid (RE confirmed again today that she will prescribe it for me whenever I'm ready), so I'll have to decide within the next couple of weeks if we're going to go for it. DH has been jogging a lot, avoiding red meat, taking OLE and we'd have 1 attempt and Clomid so there'd still be a lot of "pink" factors (plus all my wine and decaf coffee LOL). I don't know. Again - as I just wrote to M2A - it's just all so overwhelming. And I still gotta decide about the baby aspirin. I'm planning on calling my obgyn after we hear about DH's results to see his thoughts on all this.

[ABC.2606]

Of course you are exhausted momma. It’s completely normal, like pbn says if you feel you need more time, then take all the time you need. Heck I took a year off from ttc to fix myself emotionally and physically. [emoji175]


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Yea I do feel like I need to get a grip on my anxiety issues. I was so freaked out those few weeks I was pregnant (when i was thinking things were ok). I can't sustain that level of fear and anxiety over 9 months.

[Mommy2apples]

Yea I do feel like I need to get a grip on my anxiety issues. I was so freaked out those few weeks I was pregnant (when i was thinking things were ok). I can't sustain that level of fear and anxiety over 9 months.

No, it will always be hard even once you’ve conceived your healthy baby, but I believe if I would’ve went into conceive again before I was ready, it would’ve been so much worse. Believe me I had my freak out moments before I could feel her move really well, was constantly listening to her heart beat many times a day, before I could feel her move. Then if she isn’t moving as much as I think she should, I pray about it for her to move even more. I have this mentality that isn’t realistic, that she should move the whole time I’m awake. My anxiety isn’t as high as it was when I first got pregnant with her.


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[ABC.2606]

Yeah it's hard to know what to do for the best isn't it. I really wanted to try straight away but at the back of my mind I'm worried I've not given my body enough time to recover. Just take it a day at a time I reckon and see how you feel when you get nearer to ovulation time.
I got a positive opk yesterday and it's negative again today, I must have a really fast surge. So I'm hoping I ovulated today and my temp will rise tomorrow ����


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Yea I have a short surge too. FX you guys caught the egg!! We both just need to keep believing our rainbow babies are coming soon :) :) (Cue Journey's "Don't stop believin" song LOL!!)

[ABC.2606]

No, it will always be hard even once you’ve conceived your healthy baby, but I believe if I would’ve went into conceive again before I was ready, it would’ve been so much worse. Believe me I had my freak out moments before I could feel her move really well, was constantly listening to her heart beat many times a day, before I could feel her move. Then if she isn’t moving as much as I think she should, I pray about it for her to move even more. I have this mentality that isn’t realistic, that she should move the whole time I’m awake. My anxiety isn’t as high as it was when I first got pregnant with her.


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Going through pregnancy loss really takes away the innocence of pregnancy, yea? I mean I had paranoid/freak out moments with my boys but pregnancy was not so freaking terrifying then as it is now!!! It's like everything changes once you've had that feeling of losing a baby.

[Mommy2apples]

Going through pregnancy loss really takes away the innocence of pregnancy, yea? I mean I had paranoid/freak out moments with my boys but pregnancy was not so freaking terrifying then as it is now!!! It's like everything changes once you've had that feeling of losing a baby.

Yes it’s truly does, before it happens to you, it’s like that won’t happen to me. Once it does it’s always in the back of your mind. I told my husband the other day. I’m to old for pregnancy and I need it to hurry up and be the end of June, as there’s always a worry, and I just need her in my arms. All I can do right now is just pray and trust and feel that it is going to be just fine.


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[ABC.2606]

Yes it’s truly does, before it happens to you, it’s like that won’t happen to me. Once it does it’s always in the back of your mind. I told my husband the other day. I’m to old for pregnancy and I need it to hurry up and be the end of June, as there’s always a worry, and I just need her in my arms. All I can do right now is just pray and trust and feel that it is going to be just fine.


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If I remember correctly you're younger than me (I'm 34), so if you're too old for pregnancy then I'm screwed LOL!!!!

[Mommy2apples]

If I remember correctly you're younger than me (I'm 34), so if you're too old for pregnancy then I'm screwed LOL!!!!

I’m 33 [emoji4] lol I mean too old for the constantly worrying. She’s very well worth it though. Just glad this will be the last baby.


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[ABC.2606]

I’m 33 [emoji4] lol I mean too old for the constantly worrying. She’s very well worth it though. Just glad this will be the last baby.


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Ahhh gotta it. Yea I do I feel the older I get the more I worry. Sometimes I really miss my care free 20's :) :)

[emshe]

Thank you so much ladies! I'm completely overwhelmed! We did not only see a sac, but also some "fetal structures", my OB said it's the yolk sac. That's by far more than we saw with DS1 and 2 at the same time. I'm so relieved, I can't believe what just happened! I'll throw my hpt's in the waste bin now! [emoji2]
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So so wonderful Verena, very happy for you!


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[emshe]

AF arrived a day early, looks like it's still not my turn yet! Hopefully next cycle. Wishing everyone else BFP's this month!!

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Shame, I’m sorry eighme


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[emshe]

Verena, hoping for nerves to be calmed!! And answers to be found.
Emshe, that was a strong positive! And I have a short surge so it wasn’t a surprise that another one didn’t pick it up. I’d go by that dip stick positive if it were me.
We did the SMEP this month and I started progesterone suppositories around 4dpo. I think that was our trick. Even if it wasn’t the strongest sway for girl. Either way, praying this one keeps on sticking. Here is SMU test from today
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How exciting!


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[Mommy2apples]

Ahhh gotta it. Yea I do I feel the older I get the more I worry. Sometimes I really miss my care free 20's :) :)

Wasn’t those the best! The carefree 20’s didn’t really have to worry about anything!


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[emshe]

Oh Verena YAY!!!!!! That's so amazing!!!! Wow that's a lot seen for 5 weeks!! I'm glad you are happy and relieved - grow little bean, grow!!! SO happy for you!!!

Well my ultrasound was not nearly as exciting as Verena but I did get good news - no fibroids, polyps or scar tissue. Uterus looks very normal ("gorgeous" in the doctor's words). So, we're now just waiting for DH's chromosome results. If that is normal, the RE says it was probably bad luck 3 times in a row. Crazy. Of course it puts a little bit of fear/guilt back into me that maybe swaying is the reason for all of this. Probably not and I'm trying not to think that, but it's just weird.

I do have a very big follicle/cyst on my right ovary that she said is probably left over from the miscarriage (like an egg that tried to ovulate that cycle I got pregnant but didn't I guess?). She said it should resolve on it's own but she wants to recheck it after my next period starts to make sure it's gone. Bleh. But she said it's pretty common for that to happen.

Hannah looks good!! I may have asked you this already and if so I'm sorry but have you made an appointment or will you get any betas done? Praying this is your sticky bean!!!!

So happy your scan went well ABC! I bet your uterus is gorgeous [emoji6] and soon ready and waiting to carry a healthy little bundle


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[emshe]

Congrats sunstars [emoji322]Hannah that's looking great, hope it keeps on getting darker for you [emoji106]
Amazing news about your scan verena, wow! You must be so relieved. Yeah definitely throw them tests away now and enjoy it.
ABC that sounds really positive! It's frustrating to think it's bad luck but also reassuring that hopefully your sticky baby will be here soon as there are no problems. Fingers crossed your other half's chromosome tests come back ok too. How are you feeling in yourself?
Eighme, sorry AF came [emoji17]
Well I'm really cross with DH who has just decided to pull out at the vital moment. He hasn't been completely on board with ttc and obviously had a change of heart. I'm hoping yesterday's bd will be enough [emoji17]


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Oh dear, sorry to hear that. Maybe he’ll change his mind!?

I will be absolutely wishing you get lucky from your attempt


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[emshe]

Thanks Mommy :) I'm overwhelmed again tonight - I just don't know how much more I can handle. I want a baby girl so dang bad but the physical, mental and emotional drain is really adding up. I told DH at dinner tonight I'm just so exhausted. We'll see I guess.

I know exactly where youre at ABC. Take your time it’s such a big path we’ve been on and it’s hard to think of diverting but there is happiness either way I’m sure of it.


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[ABC.2606]

Wasn’t those the best! The carefree 20’s didn’t really have to worry about anything!


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Oh girl you know it. I didn't get married until I was 28 so until then I don't know what I worried about! Now I'm basically one giant stress ball all the time haha!!!

[ABC.2606]

So happy your scan went well ABC! I bet your uterus is gorgeous [emoji6] and soon ready and waiting to carry a healthy little bundle


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Thanks!!! It's starting to creep me out - an ultrasound tech and my D&C doc both said my uterus is "beautiful" and today the RE said it's "gorgeous"! I'm like, so what, should there be pictures of my uterus hanging in an art gallery or something?? LOL!!!! But seriously if it's so beautiful why can't it just carry a healthy baby!??!!

Did you get another BD in?????

[emshe]

Thanks!!! It's starting to creep me out - an ultrasound tech and my D&C doc both said my uterus is "beautiful" and today the RE said it's "gorgeous"! I'm like, so what, should there be pictures of my uterus hanging in an art gallery or something?? LOL!!!! But seriously if it's so beautiful why can't it just carry a healthy baby!??!!

Did you get another BD in?????

It could be a prized collector piece [emoji23]

It really just sounds like it’s been bad luck, I am hoping upon hope that we both can leave that behind and conceive our healthy babes now.
We BD just after midnight, so still technically the CD it was due, just not the full 72 hours. Having full on ov pain atm which started about 8am so 🤞🏻


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[gafan]

AF arrived a day early, looks like it's still not my turn yet! Hopefully next cycle. Wishing everyone else BFP's this month!!

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[ABC.2606]

It could be a prized collector piece [emoji23]

It really just sounds like it’s been bad luck, I am hoping upon hope that we both can leave that behind and conceive our healthy babes now.
We BD just after midnight, so still technically the CD it was due, just not the full 72 hours. Having full on ov pain atm which started about 8am so ����


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LOL maybe!!! Eeeek that's so exciting hopefully you'll O today and you'll officially be in the TWW tomorrow!!!

[emshe]

LOL maybe!!! Eeeek that's so exciting hopefully you'll O today and you'll officially be in the TWW tomorrow!!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Abc so glad to hear of your beautiful uterus :D if it helps at all my uterus isn’t beautiful I’m 26 and have adenomyosis so the walls of my uterus pretty much look a mess and I’ve been a nervous wreck thinking this can mess my pregnancy up (still am and I’m 12 weeks)

But my 20s have definitely not been care free :p think I’m to blame though I’m a natural born worrier!

[Verena]

Thank you all so much! My next scan will be next week on Wednesday and I'm sure by then I will be a nervous wreck again, but at the moment I really try to enjoy.

Parying4agirl can't you get a private scan? At 6 weeks maybe to see the heartbeat? I don't know how much private scans are though. It's really cruel to have to wait for several months not knowing what is going on :heart: So far I only have some mild symptoms. I have to get up at night to pee once, which I only have in pregnancy. By 6 pm I get so tired that I can hardly keep my eyes open. Which is fun with two boys not sleeping before 9 pm ;-) Feeling weak and shaky, especially when I stand up. And some mild waves of nausea. I think that was worse in my last pregnancies at 5 weeks so I really hope it won't get that bad this time, but I guess I will know in two weeks. That was when I started vomiting with DS1 and 2. Do you have any symptoms yet?

Hannah that's a beautiful line!!! So happy for you! How crazy, in your last month that you wanted to ttc ever!

ABC that's so good to read! Having a gorgeous uterus must be very reassuring! :D I don't want to get on your nerves and I know I wrote this before, but maybe you could really think about taking femara. I read that clomid is good for quantity of eggs and femara for quality. Maybe this could make the difference for you, or at least give you some peace of mind to do something different than before?

Eighme I'm so sorry AF arrived. Good luck for next cycle!

Mummy2boys DHs can be such a pain! Mine was not fully on board to ttc as well and before each BD he started a discussion whether to pull out or not. SO annoying. I could always convince him not to pull out but I couldn't really enjoy BDing in those moments anymore because I was not sure what he would do. I'm glad you are well covered with O-1 and O-2 attempts! I think you are in the UK so it should be the morning after O-day for you? Did you see a temp rise? FX for you!!!

Emshe your timing looks perfect! FX for a temp shift tomorrow!

[Parying4agirl]

I could possibly go for a scan but worried if i go private, i’ll want to make it a habit and go everytime im worried!
Will see how things so, still very much on edge about it all.
Your sysmptoms have started showin slowly ey, the only thing i am in hungry all the time and no matter how much i eat, i dont feel full. I have started drinking more water so thats whats causing the toilets trips as opposed to the preg sysmtoms. Again I am tired but thats normal with my boys, they dont like sleeping and love waking up loads throughout the night, with early starts! Sounds like we have similar stories atm hehe
All the best for next scan too - will they be weekly?

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Mummy2boys [emoji108]

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[mwilson]

It’s been a while since I’ve been on the boards. Took a break trying since the beginning of the year. Did a quick run through and congrats to the positives and I’m sorry for the losses!! I’ve missed a lot. We have actually started seeing a specialist and looking into ivf. Started running tests and apparently my amh level is pretty low, which measures ovarian reserve. Not exactly sure what that means since we haven’t had our follow up yet but the year of no success and a miscarriage seems to be an issue with me, which is hard to take after having two other babies easily. Good luck to everyone this month.

[Noemi2017]

Girls if u speak about age maybe i should worry... im really afraid i wont conceive again:worry:

[Mommy2apples]

Girls if u speak about age maybe i should worry... im really afraid i wont conceive again:worry:

No, that’s not what I meant momma. Just the constant worrying is all I meant. I wouldn’t trade this pregnancy for anything. [emoji4] Atomic was well in her 40’s and had a healthy baby! ❤️ so was my mother in law.


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[mummy2boys]

Mummy2boys [emoji108]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]and now the wait begins...


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[Throwaway_panther]

Thanks!!! It's starting to creep me out - an ultrasound tech and my D&C doc both said my uterus is "beautiful" and today the RE said it's "gorgeous"! I'm like, so what, should there be pictures of my uterus hanging in an art gallery or something?? LOL!!!! But seriously if it's so beautiful why can't it just carry a healthy baby!??!!

Did you get another BD in?????

Mine is also perfect lol. I'm constantly told my uterus and lining are "beautiful." My problem is it's TOO perfect and tries to grow unviable babies -- maybe that's what going on with you too?

And hi guys -- in here depressed because it's CD18 and I'm nowhere near a positive OPK :( I normally ovulate CD16-19. I'm getting cramps and have had on and off EWCM and O pains for like a week. I'm worried either my chemical or the drugs from my FET have messed things up, even though I've ovulated normally afte losses before :(

And of course this is the month I don't temp because I thought I would stress too much. Ugh!

[ABC.2606]

Mine is also perfect lol. I'm constantly told my uterus and lining are "beautiful." My problem is it's TOO perfect and tries to grow unviable babies -- maybe that's what going on with you too?

And hi guys -- in here depressed because it's CD18 and I'm nowhere near a positive OPK :( I normally ovulate CD16-19. I'm getting cramps and have had on and off EWCM and O pains for like a week. I'm worried either my chemical or the drugs from my FET have messed things up, even though I've ovulated normally afte losses before :(

And of course this is the month I don't temp because I thought I would stress too much. Ugh!

TP it's so good to see you on this board! Sorry I haven't responded to your last PM yet - will still do so!! I'm sorry your cycle seems to be weird :( Probably like you said because of the chemical and the FET stuff. I still feel like my hormones are still out of wack after my D&C/ miscarriage. It's annoying!!

Huh. Maybe you are right! DH and I get pregnant basically every time we try - 5 out of the 7 cycles we've tried, we've gotten BFPs. That fact alone doesn't seem normal LOL!! Maybe my body just implants and tries to grow every egg that is fertilized regardless of whether it's viable, where in other women the body rejects most nonviable eggs before they even implant? The percentage of fertilized eggs that never implant is pretty high, isn't it? Hmm... that's interesting and not something I had really thought of - maybe it is my issue!

Temping stresses me out too :( It's such a pain!

[ABC.2606]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]and now the wait begins...


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Exciting, mummy!!!! FX!!!!!

[ABC.2606]

It’s been a while since I’ve been on the boards. Took a break trying since the beginning of the year. Did a quick run through and congrats to the positives and I’m sorry for the losses!! I’ve missed a lot. We have actually started seeing a specialist and looking into ivf. Started running tests and apparently my amh level is pretty low, which measures ovarian reserve. Not exactly sure what that means since we haven’t had our follow up yet but the year of no success and a miscarriage seems to be an issue with me, which is hard to take after having two other babies easily. Good luck to everyone this month.

Mwilson glad to see you back and I'm glad you're getting some more tests done. I think there have been a lot of women on here with lower AMH who have still been able to have babies so don't lose hope! Hoping you get more answers soon!

[ABC.2606]

Abc so glad to hear of your beautiful uterus :D if it helps at all my uterus isn’t beautiful I’m 26 and have adenomyosis so the walls of my uterus pretty much look a mess and I’ve been a nervous wreck thinking this can mess my pregnancy up (still am and I’m 12 weeks)

But my 20s have definitely not been care free :p think I’m to blame though I’m a natural born worrier!

I've never heard of adenomyosis before!! Do the doctors think it could cause issues during your pregnancy? Things seem to be going great so far though & I'll keep praying it continues to go well!! I saw that you had some other tests that went well! Was that the nuchal fold/ blood work type of test?

[ABC.2606]

Thank you all so much! My next scan will be next week on Wednesday and I'm sure by then I will be a nervous wreck again, but at the moment I really try to enjoy.

Parying4agirl can't you get a private scan? At 6 weeks maybe to see the heartbeat? I don't know how much private scans are though. It's really cruel to have to wait for several months not knowing what is going on :heart: So far I only have some mild symptoms. I have to get up at night to pee once, which I only have in pregnancy. By 6 pm I get so tired that I can hardly keep my eyes open. Which is fun with two boys not sleeping before 9 pm ;-) Feeling weak and shaky, especially when I stand up. And some mild waves of nausea. I think that was worse in my last pregnancies at 5 weeks so I really hope it won't get that bad this time, but I guess I will know in two weeks. That was when I started vomiting with DS1 and 2. Do you have any symptoms yet?

Hannah that's a beautiful line!!! So happy for you! How crazy, in your last month that you wanted to ttc ever!

ABC that's so good to read! Having a gorgeous uterus must be very reassuring! :D I don't want to get on your nerves and I know I wrote this before, but maybe you could really think about taking femara. I read that clomid is good for quantity of eggs and femara for quality. Maybe this could make the difference for you, or at least give you some peace of mind to do something different than before?

Eighme I'm so sorry AF arrived. Good luck for next cycle!

Mummy2boys DHs can be such a pain! Mine was not fully on board to ttc as well and before each BD he started a discussion whether to pull out or not. SO annoying. I could always convince him not to pull out but I couldn't really enjoy BDing in those moments anymore because I was not sure what he would do. I'm glad you are well covered with O-1 and O-2 attempts! I think you are in the UK so it should be the morning after O-day for you? Did you see a temp rise? FX for you!!!

Emshe your timing looks perfect! FX for a temp shift tomorrow!

Verena yea I'll research more on Femara - neither my obgyn or RE have mentioned it so I wonder if it's not something they prescribe much. I don't even know if egg quality is really my issue - my FSH and AMH numbers are good.

I'm still so excited about your beautiful scan yesterday - and you get another one next week yay!! Maybe you will see a heartbeat by then if you'll be a little over 6 weeks?

[Throwaway_panther]

TP it's so good to see you on this board! Sorry I haven't responded to your last PM yet - will still do so!! I'm sorry your cycle seems to be weird :( Probably like you said because of the chemical and the FET stuff. I still feel like my hormones are still out of wack after my D&C/ miscarriage. It's annoying!!

Huh. Maybe you are right! DH and I get pregnant basically every time we try - 5 out of the 7 cycles we've tried, we've gotten BFPs. That fact alone doesn't seem normal LOL!! Maybe my body just implants and tries to grow every egg that is fertilized regardless of whether it's viable, where in other women the body rejects most nonviable eggs before they even implant? The percentage of fertilized eggs that never implant is pretty high, isn't it? Hmm... that's interesting and not something I had really thought of - maybe it is my issue!

Temping stresses me out too :( It's such a pain!

No worries! I'm always around, haha!

And yes, that's exactly what hyperfertility is suspected of being! A small study was even done that observed the endometrial lining of hyperfertile women "reaching out" to grab everything compared to women of normal fertility where that only happened with viable embryos! There's also a Professor Quemby in the U.K. who's a big investigator into it who has other observations on it as well.

[ABC.2606]

No worries! I'm always around, haha!

And yes, that's exactly what hyperfertility is suspected of being! A small study was even done that observed the endometrial lining of hyperfertile women "reaching out" to grab everything compared to women of normal fertility where that only happened with viable embryos! There's also a Professor Quemby in the U.K. who's a big investigator into it who has other observations on it as well.

That's fascinating!!! Have you talked to your doctors about this? I'm definitely going to research it!! So if that's what's going on with me do I just keep getting pregnant and hope I finally grab a good egg? My first two losses were at 5 weeks and my betas at 4 weeks were awful so I feel very sure those were not OK from the beginning. The 3rd one makes less sense.

It would seem like hyperfertility would sway more boy but if you got a girl with it I guess I'd still have a chance!

[Georgia_Peach]

TP it's so good to see you on this board! Sorry I haven't responded to your last PM yet - will still do so!! I'm sorry your cycle seems to be weird :( Probably like you said because of the chemical and the FET stuff. I still feel like my hormones are still out of wack after my D&C/ miscarriage. It's annoying!!

Huh. Maybe you are right! DH and I get pregnant basically every time we try - 5 out of the 7 cycles we've tried, we've gotten BFPs. That fact alone doesn't seem normal LOL!! Maybe my body just implants and tries to grow every egg that is fertilized regardless of whether it's viable, where in other women the body rejects most nonviable eggs before they even implant? The percentage of fertilized eggs that never implant is pretty high, isn't it? Hmm... that's interesting and not something I had really thought of - maybe it is my issue!

Temping stresses me out too :( It's such a pain!I also have the perfect environment thing going on. After test after test.. It's diagnosed with unexplained infertility for us bc hubby has no issues either.
I feel like any woman who has gone through ivf feels like it's a bloody miracle anyone gets pregnant at all! You start with X number of healthy eggs and X number get fertilized then less than 50% of that makes it to day 3.. Then less to day 5. Then once you send off for PGS you find maybe only half of that number (if you're lucky) are normal. I think after age 30 it gets tougher for chromosomaly perfect babies too.
Such a numbers game! That's why we did IVF bc I was sick of having chemical pregnancies or NOT getting pregnant every month.. that and my second trimester loss.

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[Georgia_Peach]

Mine is also perfect lol. I'm constantly told my uterus and lining are "beautiful." My problem is it's TOO perfect and tries to grow unviable babies -- maybe that's what going on with you too?

And hi guys -- in here depressed because it's CD18 and I'm nowhere near a positive OPK :( I normally ovulate CD16-19. I'm getting cramps and have had on and off EWCM and O pains for like a week. I'm worried either my chemical or the drugs from my FET have messed things up, even though I've ovulated normally afte losses before :(

And of course this is the month I don't temp because I thought I would stress too much. Ugh!I feel like 100% the meds they give us for ivf messes up cycles.
I have my fingers crossed for you! Xo

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[emshe]

It’s been a while since I’ve been on the boards. Took a break trying since the beginning of the year. Did a quick run through and congrats to the positives and I’m sorry for the losses!! I’ve missed a lot. We have actually started seeing a specialist and looking into ivf. Started running tests and apparently my amh level is pretty low, which measures ovarian reserve. Not exactly sure what that means since we haven’t had our follow up yet but the year of no success and a miscarriage seems to be an issue with me, which is hard to take after having two other babies easily. Good luck to everyone this month.

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[ABC.2606]

I also have the perfect environment thing going on. After test after test.. It's diagnosed with unexplained infertility for us bc hubby has no issues either.
I feel like any woman who has gone through ivf feels like it's a bloody miracle anyone gets pregnant at all! You start with X number of healthy eggs and X number get fertilized then less than 50% of that makes it to day 3.. Then less to day 5. Then once you send off for PGS you find maybe only half of that number (if you're lucky) are normal. I think after age 30 it gets tougher for chromosomaly perfect babies too.
Such a numbers game! That's why we did IVF bc I was sick of having chemical pregnancies or NOT getting pregnant every month.. that and my second trimester loss.

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That's what my obgyn keeps telling me - that with everything that has to go perfectly right, he thinks it's a miracle that anyone ever has a baby! I wish at this point we could do IVF/PGS but the funds definitely aren't there for it. Have to just keep hoping we catch the right egg I guess!!

[atomic sagebrush]

That's what my obgyn keeps telling me - that with everything that has to go perfectly right, he thinks it's a miracle that anyone ever has a baby! I wish at this point we could do IVF/PGS but the funds definitely aren't there for it. Have to just keep hoping we catch the right egg I guess!!

This times a MILLION!! The true miracle is that it happens successfully as often as it does!! SO many things have to go exactly perfectly and we are talking about countless chemical reactions and DNA replications and perfect hormone levels all happening in precisely the right order!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[Georgia_Peach]

That's what my obgyn keeps telling me - that with everything that has to go perfectly right, he thinks it's a miracle that anyone ever has a baby! I wish at this point we could do IVF/PGS but the funds definitely aren't there for it. Have to just keep hoping we catch the right egg I guess!!You got this girl!! I think it's just a matter of time now!! I can feel It.

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[ABC.2606]

This times a MILLION!! The true miracle is that it happens successfully as often as it does!! SO many things have to go exactly perfectly and we are talking about countless chemical reactions and DNA replications and perfect hormone levels all happening in precisely the right order!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Sigh. This makes me think it'll never happen :) I know I know it can, but after 3 in a row I feel my body doesn't know how to do all that anymore!

[ABC.2606]

You got this girl!! I think it's just a matter of time now!! I can feel It.

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Thanks Mamabird :) hope you're right!!

[emshe]

Sigh. This makes me think it'll never happen :) I know I know it can, but after 3 in a row I feel my body doesn't know how to do all that anymore!

We can only try, to believe & to follow our dreams. Keep trying & hope.

sending you the biggest of hugs ABC


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[ABC.2606]

We can only try, to believe & to follow our dreams. Keep trying & hope.

sending you the biggest of hugs ABC


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Thanks Emshe :) Same to you!!! Your temps are rising - do you think you O-ed?? It kinda looks like you O'ed the day of your +OPK but that would seem unlikely. Will be interesting to see your chart the next few days!!!

[emshe]

Thanks Emshe :) Same to you!!! Your temps are rising - do you think you O-ed?? It kinda looks like you O'ed the day of your +OPK but that would seem unlikely. Will be interesting to see your chart the next few days!!!

Hoping I did! 🤞🏻




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[gafan]

CD16. What kind of temp spike am I looking for? I had two negative opk tests today at 2pm and 530pm, not drinking fluids. Last night I woke at 4:45am because I had to pee, temp 98.22 (before moving out of bed). Slept until 6:45, temp 98.27.
Mucus is close to egg white but thicker. Not school glue consistency, less sticky, but more creamy than EW. I think last cycle pos OPK CD19.

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[gafan]

Today's tests, 6pm and 2pm3927239273

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[gafan]

Sorry for multiple posts. It looks like I have to wait a day or two. First time temping so I don't really know what to look for there yet. I suppose I just want reassurance that it makes sense to keep waiting for the positive. That's the plan!

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[emshe]

Sorry for multiple posts. It looks like I have to wait a day or two. First time temping so I don't really know what to look for there yet. I suppose I just want reassurance that it makes sense to keep waiting for the positive. That's the plan!

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The waiting is so tough isn't it! Good luck, hope you get your positive soon

[Throwaway_panther]

That's fascinating!!! Have you talked to your doctors about this? I'm definitely going to research it!! So if that's what's going on with me do I just keep getting pregnant and hope I finally grab a good egg? My first two losses were at 5 weeks and my betas at 4 weeks were awful so I feel very sure those were not OK from the beginning. The 3rd one makes less sense.

It would seem like hyperfertility would sway more boy but if you got a girl with it I guess I'd still have a chance!

Only one RE has agreed that its hyperfertility -- it's still a controversial/new diagnosis! But yes, our official prognosis ven after IVF was "keep trying until one sticks." In our case, it's about getting that one good sperm since DH's sperm are messed up :(

I keep joking that I must have soft boiled eggs -- they keep letting the first sperm to make it in, I've joked, when we know now the first sperm to get to the egg are NOT the god ones but the ones meant to crack open the shell :P

[Throwaway_panther]

I feel like 100% the meds they give us for ivf messes up cycles.
I have my fingers crossed for you! Xo

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Thank you! You're probably right. I had to have ovulated normally after my first IVF cycle based on my pregnancy. It must have been that damn estrace from the FET :(

And now I'm having menstrual like cramps on CD18. I'm scared AF is just going to come early and I won't ovulate at all :( I have intense ovulation usually but this is something else!

[ABC.2606]

Gafan - Are you doing E4D??

[ABC.2606]

Thank you! You're probably right. I had to have ovulated normally after my first IVF cycle based on my pregnancy. It must have been that damn estrace from the FET :(

And now I'm having menstrual like cramps on CD18. I'm scared AF is just going to come early and I won't ovulate at all :( I have intense ovulation usually but this is something else!

Have you had AF yet since your chemical? I started AF on April 1 - 23 days after D&C - and I'm pretty sure I didn't ovulate before it started. I swear all these hormones and miscarriages (and in your case - all the FET stuff) really seems to screw things up.

[ABC.2606]

Only one RE has agreed that its hyperfertility -- it's still a controversial/new diagnosis! But yes, our official prognosis ven after IVF was "keep trying until one sticks." In our case, it's about getting that one good sperm since DH's sperm are messed up :(

I keep joking that I must have soft boiled eggs -- they keep letting the first sperm to make it in, I've joked, when we know now the first sperm to get to the egg are NOT the god ones but the ones meant to crack open the shell :P

Yea I did a little quick research on it - sounds like it's very new and not something most doctors would know or care about. At my ultrasound yesterday my RE basically said she's run all the tests she can and so if this last one (DH's chromosomes) comes back normal then it's just "bad luck". Doesn't make me feel great about trying again if I'm just going to have "bad luck" over and over! You and I may be in the somewhat of the same boat then - just trying each month, getting pregnant, and having to wait for awhile to see if we actually got a good egg or not!!! LOL, even my OBGYN (at my 7 week ultrasound in February where I found out I had most likely miscarried) got frustrated and said "we just need one to stick, dammit!!" Made me laugh in what was obviously a bad situation!! :)

One thing I saw when I did quick research on it is that baby aspirin and progesterone after O are recommended as possible treatments. Are you doing those? I have progesterone vaginal capsules still (doc prescribed them when I had my first m/c). I'm really thinking of doing both from here on out - I just don't want to do nothing. My OB also wants me to do baby aspirin (but the RE is against it - gotta love conflicting advice!).

[Pbn3]

Gafan it's impossible to say if that spike is o related or not as we have no previous chart for comparison to know where your temp range is pre and post o. I would think it unlikely you've oed though. Is the 6pm test the top pic? Looks like your line is getting stronger if it is so hopefully your surge is coming in!

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Georgia_Peach]

Yea I did a little quick research on it - sounds like it's very new and not something most doctors would know or care about. At my ultrasound yesterday my RE basically said she's run all the tests she can and so if this last one (DH's chromosomes) comes back normal then it's just "bad luck". Doesn't make me feel great about trying again if I'm just going to have "bad luck" over and over! You and I may be in the somewhat of the same boat then - just trying each month, getting pregnant, and having to wait for awhile to see if we actually got a good egg or not!!! LOL, even my OBGYN (at my 7 week ultrasound in February where I found out I had most likely miscarried) got frustrated and said "we just need one to stick, dammit!!" Made me laugh in what was obviously a bad situation!! :)

One thing I saw when I did quick research on it is that baby aspirin and progesterone after O are recommended as possible treatments. Are you doing those? I have progesterone vaginal capsules still (doc prescribed them when I had my first m/c). I'm really thinking of doing both from here on out - I just don't want to do nothing. My OB also wants me to do baby aspirin (but the RE is against it - gotta love conflicting advice!).These are things are fertility clinic reccomends with ivf too. I am stopping my progesterone tonight as I am 11 weeks now. I've been taking baby asprin and progesterone shots since before transfer.

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[Throwaway_panther]

Have you had AF yet since your chemical? I started AF on April 1 - 23 days after D&C - and I'm pretty sure I didn't ovulate before it started. I swear all these hormones and miscarriages (and in your case - all the FET stuff) really seems to screw things up.

I haven't had AF since the bleeding that was my chemical -- but I also am super regular and usually ovulate normally after a loss. It's a symptom of the hyperfertility supposedly! I even had my periods back with exclusive breastfeeding 5 weeks after DD was born and was pregnant at 3 months PP! Which is why this happening now of all times is stressing me out!

I totally forgot to reply to your other point earlier -- you totally have a chance for a girl! Granted I did an EXTREME LE lifestyle to get one apparently, but I am such a quintessential boy mom all around that I always try to tell people if I can get a girl, they can! The great irony is that I wanted a boy so bad but didn't know about swaying :( If I had just eaten I probably would have had my boy

[Throwaway_panther]

Yea I did a little quick research on it - sounds like it's very new and not something most doctors would know or care about. At my ultrasound yesterday my RE basically said she's run all the tests she can and so if this last one (DH's chromosomes) comes back normal then it's just "bad luck". Doesn't make me feel great about trying again if I'm just going to have "bad luck" over and over! You and I may be in the somewhat of the same boat then - just trying each month, getting pregnant, and having to wait for awhile to see if we actually got a good egg or not!!! LOL, even my OBGYN (at my 7 week ultrasound in February where I found out I had most likely miscarried) got frustrated and said "we just need one to stick, dammit!!" Made me laugh in what was obviously a bad situation!! :)

One thing I saw when I did quick research on it is that baby aspirin and progesterone after O are recommended as possible treatments. Are you doing those? I have progesterone vaginal capsules still (doc prescribed them when I had my first m/c). I'm really thinking of doing both from here on out - I just don't want to do nothing. My OB also wants me to do baby aspirin (but the RE is against it - gotta love conflicting advice!).

I've done both but still had losses. In my case, aspirin doesn't matter since it's not a clotting issue and my lining is "beautiful" as I've ben told lol. I've heard progesterone makes the uterus "choosier" for us hyperfertiles, but I've still gotten BFPs doing that (even with my transfer of abnormal embryos!). Though I have noticed I lose them quicker with progesterone (versus most of my non progesterone losses, where I make it to 6-8 weeks before losing).

I'm telling you -- it's not just the egg! The sperm is 50% of the equation :P And whereas the egg can actually correct and fix things to am extent, a bad sperm is a bad sperm as I've learned :(

[ABC.2606]

TP - Yea I ovulated normally with my first two losses and started AF 24-25 days after the bleeding started which is the exact length of my normal cycles. And yup - I was BF-ing DS2 (not exclusively b/c I have a crappy milk supply) and AF came either 4 weeks or 6 weeks after he was born. I forget exactly when, but it was quick. My cycles are sooooo clockwork - even all the swaying, dieting, losing weight didn't throw them off at all! Nuts. It all sounds like hyperfertility. I really don't know much about DH's sperm though - he did have a SA in October in which all was "normal" (high sperm count actually) but is that telling us enough about his sperm health?

Well - maybe if AF comes soon then things will go back to normal on the next cycle!! I know what you're still facing with DH's sperm but I'm hoping you're able to try again soon and that you can get some good answers on DH!! The waiting around just sucks :(

Mamabird - yea I think I'm just going to try both. I'll tell my OBGYN I'm going to do it - maybe not the RE though since she doesn't seem to approve :)

[Girlswaylondon]

I've never heard of adenomyosis before!! Do the doctors think it could cause issues during your pregnancy? Things seem to be going great so far though & I'll keep praying it continues to go well!! I saw that you had some other tests that went well! Was that the nuchal fold/ blood work type of test?

It’s quite uncommon and not much research on it here in the uk I did google then quickly stopped because I did see some scary things relating to pregnancy but I’ll keep postitive!!
Yes was the nt and Edwards test :) was freaking out because I’m travelling abroad and thought I wouldn’t get my letter in time, luckily I did!

Have you heard back with your results yet abc? Or was it hubbys you were waiting for? Sorry if I missed the post! X

[sunstars]

I'm in panic. I'm sick with some respiratory virus these few days with pretty bad cough, and today the soreness of breasts has gone, and I feel different. Could this be normal?

[Pbn3]

Sunstars hope all is ok! Symptoms coming and going is completely normal though stressful [emoji173] hope you are feeling better really soon xo

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[Pbn3]

Abc can I just say I'm LOVING how active you are again and you have an entire cheerleading team here waiting patiently for you to begin ttc your sticky rainbow [emoji322][emoji173][emoji304] it was 4th time lucky for me and I have no doubt it will be the same for you [emoji173]

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[emshe]

I'm in panic. I'm sick with some respiratory virus these few days with pretty bad cough, and today the soreness of breasts has gone, and I feel different. Could this be normal?

Rest up sunstars, hope you’re feeling better soon.


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[Pbn3]

Emshe I cant wait for your morning temp!! Hoping it spikes which would fit in with both your opk and o pains. I am not at all convinced you oed same day of pos opk at all...

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Emshe I cant wait for your morning temp!! Hoping it spikes which would fit in with both your opk and o pains. I am not at all convinced you oed same day of pos opk at all...

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[Throwaway_panther]

TP - Yea I ovulated normally with my first two losses and started AF 24-25 days after the bleeding started which is the exact length of my normal cycles. And yup - I was BF-ing DS2 (not exclusively b/c I have a crappy milk supply) and AF came either 4 weeks or 6 weeks after he was born. I forget exactly when, but it was quick. My cycles are sooooo clockwork - even all the swaying, dieting, losing weight didn't throw them off at all! Nuts. It all sounds like hyperfertility. I really don't know much about DH's sperm though - he did have a SA in October in which all was "normal" (high sperm count actually) but is that telling us enough about his sperm health?

Well - maybe if AF comes soon then things will go back to normal on the next cycle!! I know what you're still facing with DH's sperm but I'm hoping you're able to try again soon and that you can get some good answers on DH!! The waiting around just sucks :(

Mamabird - yea I think I'm just going to try both. I'll tell my OBGYN I'm going to do it - maybe not the RE though since she doesn't seem to approve :)

I'm hoping AF doesn't come at all and I ovulate and get pregnant! :( :( :( The idea of facing a fruitless period after the last few months feels agonizing.

And yup, sounds like hyperfertility to me! I have some links if you're interested! That is one of the other big signs of it -- super regularity, even after full term births and losses. I've even been thinking about how I was an extremely low weight with my anorexia as a kid and still had a regular period; back in the day, losing your period was a necessary element to get diagnosed, but I got diagnosed because I had every other symptom (I think my BMI got as low as 15 something? I know my lowest weight was roughly 90lbs at 5'6") and they thought my periods still hanging around were because of my hypothryoidism. Now I look back and think, "Omg, it was the hyperfertility!" I thank myself all the time for being as paranoid about protection as I was in high school :worry:

As for DH's sperm health, I can't remember if we talked about it? I think I talked about it with someone else on here. DNA sperm fragmentation/oxidative stress damage can't be detected in a normal SA, and is what's responsible for the male part of loss. A man can have a totally normal semen analysis but still have issues with that! It's a specific test that can be ordered through a doctor (Reprosource is one of the companies that does it). In our case, my DH DID have a red flag SA, but no REs cared enough to pursue it and I had to be the one to push for more testing after our first IVF cycle revealed sperm issues.

[Throwaway_panther]

CD19. Still cramping, still breaking out (have been for the last few days), less CM. :( The cramps seriously feel like menstrual cramps.

The latest I've ever ovulated was CD21, but that was back when I was breastfeeding a bunch a day and was within like 8 months postpartum. :(

Are these menstrual like cramps still possibly gearing up for O? Has anyone ever had these?

[HGmama]

Just a quick update from my miscarriage a few weeks ago. I got our baby's chromosomes came back. It was in fact XO, which is Turner syndrome which is a common cause of miscarriage. My OB has sent for chromones four times and three have been positive for Turners. So it may be more common than originally thought. It is very nice knowing it truly wasnt my fault. You can tell it to yourself, but i finally can believe it now. Second plus is my sway worked technically. Negative is that im starting hcg level blood draws because im 16 days post d&c and still testing positive on hpt.

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[Nonerz]

I got too excited too soon. Apparently it was just a chemical pregnancy. Positive pregnancy tests lasted about one week. Then intense cramping and blood. Back to square one...


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[Throwaway_panther]

False alarm for me. Woke up gushing CM and got a blazing positive OPK just now lol.

@HGmama: I'm so sorry for your losses. I definitely know how you're feeling. Knowing the babies never had a chance sort of helps, though it all still hurts. Have you guys had a karyotype done at all? We spoke with a geneticist after having two Trisomy 8 boys and they said they do start to raise their eyebrows a bit when you start getting the same chromsomal abnormality over and over. Our karyotypes were normal though.

@nonerz: Don't think you got excited too soon! Most people end up with happy stories from BFPs. It's totally normal and reasonable to be excited. It sucks to be the other side of that statistic :( I am so sorry for your loss.

[ABC.2606]

Girlsway - Yea I'd try not to stress about it a lot... Things are going SO good so far so just keep thinking positive thoughts!!! Can't wait for your gender scan!!! We're just waiting for DH's chromosome results at this point - should be back by the end of the week.

Sunstars I hope you feel better soon!!

Pbn - LOL I'm active and I feel like I'm also annoying!!! I feel like I take over this board too much with all of my own issues!!! Thank you all for being patient with me :) :) :)

HGMama - I'm SO glad you got an answer and can be very reassured now that nothing was your fault! Hope that helps a bit in your healing process. Hope the HCG goes down soon - it's frustrating, I know!

I'm so sorry Nonerz :( I know the feeling as well and it's awful!

TP - YAY for +OPK!!!! Woo hoo!!! Good luck in your attempt(s)! Are you doing multiple attempts?

[Throwaway_panther]

We did two in a row this morning :holysheep: I even joked to DH who asked, "Are you like super ovulating because you're so wet?", I said, "Well if there's a god or sentient universe, I will be since I read a study that said fragmentation was lowered substantially within an hour of release." And sure enough, positive OPK a few hours after that lol!

I've tended to O 24-48 hours after the surge in the past. I'm debating whether to BD tonight and then the next two mornings or to just BD the next two mornings. :nails:

[ABC.2606]

We did two in a row this morning :holysheep: I even joked to DH who asked, "Are you like super ovulating because you're so wet?", I said, "Well if there's a god or sentient universe, I will be since I read a study that said fragmentation was lowered substantially within an hour of release." And sure enough, positive OPK a few hours after that lol!

I've tended to O 24-48 hours after the surge in the past. I'm debating whether to BD tonight and then the next two mornings or to just BD the next two mornings. :nails:

Eeeek so exciting! Your timing is great, multiple attempts, lots of CM! Will be praying my head off the next few days that a healthy egg meets a healthy sperm!!!!!!!

LOL, "super ovulating"? Men crack me up with their understanding of the female reproductive system!!! Totally sounds like something my DH would say!

And I'm going to PM you soon with more questions about hyperfertility - So just a heads up :)

[Noemi2017]

Sorry to hear so Nonerz:sadflwr:

[Noemi2017]

Good luck Throwaway:luck:

[Pbn3]

Hgmama I'm so glad you were able to get an answer and hope your hcg is just going down slowly rather than it being retained tissue [emoji120]

Nonerz I'm so sorry and big hugs xo It gutting to get that bfp then have it taken away [emoji22] Hope your able to conceive ypur sticky bean really soon [emoji173]

Abc you're amazing [emoji173] Again, I'm so happy to see you back!!!

TP wow!!! It sounds like you'll have plenty of attempts in!!! Like Abc I'll be hoping like mad to see your sticky bfp!!

Noemi hope you o a little earlier this cycle fx fx fx!!! It feels like such a loooong wait [emoji30]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

We did two in a row this morning :holysheep: I even joked to DH who asked, "Are you like super ovulating because you're so wet?", I said, "Well if there's a god or sentient universe, I will be since I read a study that said fragmentation was lowered substantially within an hour of release." And sure enough, positive OPK a few hours after that lol!

I've tended to O 24-48 hours after the surge in the past. I'm debating whether to BD tonight and then the next two mornings or to just BD the next two mornings. :nails:

Will be hoping and wishing for you!


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[emshe]

I got too excited too soon. Apparently it was just a chemical pregnancy. Positive pregnancy tests lasted about one week. Then intense cramping and blood. Back to square one...


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So sorry nonerz. That sucks. Good luck for your next cycle


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[emshe]

HGMama hope you’re going ok & that everything settles for you soon


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[Noemi2017]

Thx u Pbn, i really pray this month is the right one:pray:

[emshe]

Thx u Pbn, i really pray this month is the right one:pray:

I hope it is for you too!


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[ABC.2606]

emshe - Crosshairs!!! Interesting - it does put O day as the day you got the +OPK. Do you think that's right or do you think it may have been the day after? Either way - your in the TWW and your temps look great so far!!!!! :fx:

[emshe]

emshe - Crosshairs!!! Interesting - it does put O day as the day you got the +OPK. Do you think that's right or do you think it may have been the day after? Either way - your in the TWW and your temps look great so far!!!!! :fx:

It did this last month too, i feel it can’t be. I have symptoms the day after opk so I think that’s more likely...


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[hannahptrussell]

Hi ladies. So I took my last test today with afternoon pee and it is still pretty light at 17dpo. Shouldn’t I see some sort of progression? Or am I overthinking things? I don’t know if I want to go do betas just because I don’t want the added anxiety. But my FRER was pretty light this afternoon.


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[Pbn3]

Hannah I'm so sorry and I hope I'm wrong but I'd be quite worried if it hasn't darkened significantly by 17dpo [emoji17] I'd honestly suggest getting betas as it will give you a straight answer and rule out ectopic as well (not that I think there's any reason AT ALL it would be ectopic, just a precaution which can be ruled out at the same time)

Betas are really the only reliable way to find out if the pregnancy is viable I'm afraid and even though I'd recommend bracing yourself for bad news there very well may be nothing wrong and your lack of test progression is from other reasons...

Big hugs xo it's terrible being in limbo [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[gafan]

Gafan - Are you doing E4D??Not this cycle. Atomic's plan for me is 1 attempt at positive OPK. This will be month 3 of attempting so we may change that next round or two.

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[emshe]

Hi ladies. So I took my last test today with afternoon pee and it is still pretty light at 17dpo. Shouldn’t I see some sort of progression? Or am I overthinking things? I don’t know if I want to go do betas just because I don’t want the added anxiety. But my FRER was pretty light this afternoon.


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Such a tricky spot you’re in, I hope it all works out Hannahptrussell, will keep you in my thoughts


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[gafan]

I got too excited too soon. Apparently it was just a chemical pregnancy. Positive pregnancy tests lasted about one week. Then intense cramping and blood. Back to square one...


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSorry Nonerz. Anyone TTC would feel excited by a positive test. Then there's no way to prevent disappointment when things don't progress the way we'd hoped for. Take good care and I hope next month works out better.

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[gafan]

Hi ladies. So I took my last test today with afternoon pee and it is still pretty light at 17dpo. Shouldn’t I see some sort of progression? Or am I overthinking things? I don’t know if I want to go do betas just because I don’t want the added anxiety. But my FRER was pretty light this afternoon.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHannah I hope the test gives you answers. Waiting in limbo is so hard!

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[gafan]

Gafan it's impossible to say if that spike is o related or not as we have no previous chart for comparison to know where your temp range is pre and post o. I would think it unlikely you've oed though. Is the 6pm test the top pic? Looks like your line is getting stronger if it is so hopefully your surge is coming in!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]Thanks Pbn. I find it reassuring to know that variation is normal. I haven't had a chance to learn about temping yet. Last two pregnancies happened quickly in the sway so this is the first cycle of data. the top one was 6pm yesterday. Attached below are 1230pm and 6pm today, CD17. The 12:30 I didn't drink more than a sip the three hours before. The 6 p.m. had a bit more and maybe diluted. Not positive OPK. Last cycle I had a clear positive at cd19 so I think I will wait at least another day for the attempt.

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[hannahptrussell]

Thank you ladies. I started spotting so I think the inevitable is just around the corner, short of an absolute miracle. I feel such a range of emotions now. Since this was most likely our last time ttc, it just sucks to end on a possible chemical. Just sucks. There’s no other way to put it. Damn, I thought we got lucky and were about to have an awesome story to tell about this little bean. But it looks to be the opposite. We tried and tried to the very last minute.


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[Pbn3]

Hannah that's just heart breaking [emoji174] you cant do NTNP for a little while?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Gafan that's a good idea. If you get a clear pos usually then I'd definately be waiting too [emoji4]

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Thank you ladies. I started spotting so I think the inevitable is just around the corner, short of an absolute miracle. I feel such a range of emotions now. Since this was most likely our last time ttc, it just sucks to end on a possible chemical. Just sucks. There’s no other way to put it. Damn, I thought we got lucky and were about to have an awesome story to tell about this little bean. But it looks to be the opposite. We tried and tried to the very last minute.


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Sending you the biggest hug.


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[Girlswaylondon]

Thx u Pbn, i really pray this month is the right one:pray:

Hope this is your month Noemi I refuse to stop coming to the tww board until I see you all with bfps! :heart:

[emshe]

Ladies, just double checking your thoughts on my chart, I have definitely ovulated haven’t I?!

Just wondering if we need to keep going with E4D, due tomorrow morning?


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[mummy2boys]

So sorry Hannah, sending hugs. Does this have to be your last try? Maybe you could just have a break and see what happens?
Sorry nonerz too, the disappointment is just awful when those tests start to get fainter.
Emshe, it looks like you are 3dpo so can probably stop the e4day but are you worried you may not have ovulated when ff says? I'm also 3 dpo and am definitely having a little break from bding lol
How are you abc? Any news on DH's tests yet?



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[emshe]

So sorry Hannah, sending hugs. Does this have to be your last try? Maybe you could just have a break and see what happens?
Sorry nonerz too, the disappointment is just awful when those tests start to get fainter.
Emshe, it looks like you are 3dpo so can probably stop the e4day but are you worried you may not have ovulated when ff says? I'm also 3 dpo and am definitely having a little break from bding lol
How are you abc? Any news on DH's tests yet?



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I’m pretty sure from other symptoms ovulation occurred later, day after at the earliest. I’m just so tired and want to sleep, how bads that! [emoji15]


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[mummy2boys]

Not bad at all, I totally get it! If you're sure you've ovulated I'd have a rest [emoji42]


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[Girl Dreaming 55]

I'm 7 weeks now but I've been bleeding on and off. Bright red on wiping. I had a scan yesterday which showed my little bean with a heartbeat and no obvious cause for bleeding. I'm not having abdo pains and I still feel nauseous but it's making me feel so anxious. I hope it's ok ��
I'm still loving reading everyone updates and news fx to everyone and I'm sorry Hannah to hear your news.

[Pbn3]

Emshe I'd definately do one more bd just in case.... I also think you are likely only 2dpo, your temp seems to rise slow and steady rather than spike [emoji848]

Girldreaming wow how scary!!! So glad to hear your bean is going well despite the bleeding and really hope it stops soon for you xo Are they offering additional monitoring in light of the bleeding?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

I'm 7 weeks now but I've been bleeding on and off. Bright red on wiping. I had a scan yesterday which showed my little bean with a heartbeat and no obvious cause for bleeding. I'm not having abdo pains and I still feel nauseous but it's making me feel so anxious. I hope it's ok ��
I'm still loving reading everyone updates and news fx to everyone and I'm sorry Hannah to hear your news.

That must be stressful, so nice to see your little ones heartbeat I can imagine. Take it easy & the bleeding settles soon


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[emshe]

Emshe I'd definately do one more bd just in case.... I also think you are likely only 2dpo, your temp seems to rise slow and steady rather than spike [emoji848]

Girldreaming wow how scary!!! So glad to hear your bean is going well despite the bleeding and really hope it stops soon for you xo Are they offering additional monitoring in light of the bleeding?

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Ok then, I’ll try muster up some energy & get in the mood [emoji6]


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[Pbn3]

Ok then, I’ll try muster up some energy & get in the mood [emoji6]


https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35220bI know how hard it is to muster up the enthusium for something you'd rather not have to do but after it's done you'll know your completely covered [emoji173] then your vajajay can have a vay-cay [emoji12][emoji23]

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[mummy2boys]

I know how hard it is to muster up the enthusium for something you'd rather not have to do but after it's done you'll know your completely covered [emoji173] then your vajajay can have a vay-cay [emoji12][emoji23]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

lol pbn [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[mummy2boys]

Girldreaming that sounds scary, hope you can get some rest and put your feet up. So good you heard a heartbeat though [emoji7]
Well I'm having those strange hot flush things I had last month. My face is bright red!! [emoji15] Do you think it's because I'm old and it's the the beginnings of menopause or something?!!! [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys maybe its pregnancy related!! Look at your temp!

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

I know how hard it is to muster up the enthusium for something you'd rather not have to do but after it's done you'll know your completely covered [emoji173] then your vajajay can have a vay-cay [emoji12][emoji23]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

He he! Thanks for the laugh Pbn[emoji23]


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[emshe]

Mummy2boys maybe its pregnancy related!! Look at your temp!

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

This! I hope hope hope it’s this!


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[Noemi2017]

:sadflwr:im sorry hannah:(

[Noemi2017]

Thx u so much Girslway, i am very happy for you and i pray i can be blessed too:LotsofLove:

[Noemi2017]

Emshe i am also sooo tired. Already 1 year on diet, im running every day 1 hour, no meat so maybe my body is just too exhausted and doesnt want to conceive:worry:

[emshe]

Emshe i am also sooo tired. Already 1 year on diet, im running every day 1 hour, no meat so maybe my body is just too exhausted and doesnt want to conceive:worry:

It can get really hard at times can’t it. I had a morning off exercise this morning to just sleep a bit longer.

We have to try to keep the faith, maybe just ease up a little on some sway stuff, I don’t know!?


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[Noemi2017]

Emshe lets hope we conceive soon, :fingers:for u this month, it looks like u r already 2-3dpo. Im cd8:)

[hannahptrussell]

Hannah that's just heart breaking [emoji174] you cant do NTNP for a little while?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

This was our compromise. And it sucks. I’m angry and trying to deal with that emotion for now. Had a negative digital test this morning so there’s no hope here. Just resting in the mourning today.


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[ABC.2606]

Hannah - I'm so, so sorry. There are no words. Hope you can rest and take care of yourself.

Noemi - FX for you this cycle. I started swaying over a year ago and though I've had three BFPs over that time where I went off the diet/exercise for short periods, I am also so sick swaying. I have moments every day where I think about just giving it all up and eating whatever I want!!

Gafan I hope you see the +OPK soon!

Emshe I think you've O'd but like Pbn said it can't hurt to get in one more BD if you can work up the energy :) :)

Girl Dreaming - how scary!! Glad the scan went well though! I had spotting (sometimes red, sometimes brown, sometimes pink) from weeks 5-8 with DS1 and they could never find a cause, and I had real, significant bleeding from weeks 24-28 with DS2 and again, no clear cause. It's terrifying!! It's pretty common though to not only have bleeding but for there to be no explanation for it :( Hang in there!

Pbn - LOL vay-cay!! Love it.

Mummy I had those hot flashes with this last pregnancy - in the tww! Felt so hot all the time! Hoping it's a good sign for you!!!!!

[Parying4agirl]

Likewise here felt hot flushes in tww and week after.
Havent felt them now though, about 5 weeks now

Thinking of u Hannah and Noemi hope this next months positive

[mummy2boys]

Mummy2boys maybe its pregnancy related!! Look at your temp!

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Ooh I hope so 🤞


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[mummy2boys]

Hannah - I'm so, so sorry. There are no words. Hope you can rest and take care of yourself.

Noemi - FX for you this cycle. I started swaying over a year ago and though I've had three BFPs over that time where I went off the diet/exercise for short periods, I am also so sick swaying. I have moments every day where I think about just giving it all up and eating whatever I want!!

Gafan I hope you see the +OPK soon!

Emshe I think you've O'd but like Pbn said it can't hurt to get in one more BD if you can work up the energy :) :)

Girl Dreaming - how scary!! Glad the scan went well though! I had spotting (sometimes red, sometimes brown, sometimes pink) from weeks 5-8 with DS1 and they could never find a cause, and I had real, significant bleeding from weeks 24-28 with DS2 and again, no clear cause. It's terrifying!! It's pretty common though to not only have bleeding but for there to be no explanation for it :( Hang in there!

Pbn - LOL vay-cay!! Love it.

Mummy I had those hot flashes with this last pregnancy - in the tww! Felt so hot all the time! Hoping it's a good sign for you!!!!!

Thanks abc [emoji106]


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[Noemi2017]

Abc we must hold on...lets hope we all find soon bfp:luck::HH:

[gafan]

I am so sorry Hannah. Take good care of yourself.

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[Girlswaylondon]

Sorry you’re going through this hannah x

[Throwaway_panther]

I am so sorry for your loss hannah. :( I'm hoping DH changes his mind. My husband has expressed occasional, "Why can't we just be happy with DD?" and wanted to stop, but has eventually changed his mind without any prompting from me at all. I hope the same happens for you guys.


Got in another morning attempt and OPK got lighter, so just a one day surge it looks like. Hoping at least 3 attempts in (plus my O-3) are good, but will probably throw another in tonight and tomorrow morning.

Took DD to a pre-preschool class today. The whole class was all boys and one of the moms is due with a second with my fourth loss :( This is so hard.

[Girl Dreaming 55]

Thank you ABC that's really reassuring. I am not having any other monitoring or tests unless it carries on I may get another scan for reassurance. It's tricky as I am quite bloated and windy and I get cramps so I worry are these wind or are they other type of cramps! Time will tell I guess. At least little bean was appropriatly sized and heart beating seen. Just think the wait now til 12 weeks is so long especially if the bleeding/spotting continues.
FX mummy looks good on chart!

[ABC.2606]

I am so sorry for your loss hannah. :( I'm hoping DH changes his mind. My husband has expressed occasional, "Why can't we just be happy with DD?" and wanted to stop, but has eventually changed his mind without any prompting from me at all. I hope the same happens for you guys.


Got in another morning attempt and OPK got lighter, so just a one day surge it looks like. Hoping at least 3 attempts in (plus my O-3) are good, but will probably throw another in tonight and tomorrow morning.

Took DD to a pre-preschool class today. The whole class was all boys and one of the moms is due with a second with my fourth loss :( This is so hard.

Well if it makes you feel any better, my son's pre-K class is mostly girls! So I feel the same thing sometimes when I drop him off :)

Yay for lots of attempts!!!

[ABC.2606]

Thank you ABC that's really reassuring. I am not having any other monitoring or tests unless it carries on I may get another scan for reassurance. It's tricky as I am quite bloated and windy and I get cramps so I worry are these wind or are they other type of cramps! Time will tell I guess. At least little bean was appropriatly sized and heart beating seen. Just think the wait now til 12 weeks is so long especially if the bleeding/spotting continues.
FX mummy looks good on chart!

Hoping it stops for you soon!!

[gafan]

I think it is positive! This afternoon's test. https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6e5253
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[ABC.2606]

DH's chromosome results came back & are normal. :highfive: So almost one month now of testing and waiting for results, and no answers. But, on the other hand I'm also very relieved. Planning on calling my OBGYN soon to get his thoughts on all of this, and to ask about baby aspirin and progesterone.

[emshe]

DH's chromosome results came back & are normal. :highfive: So almost one month now of testing and waiting for results, and no answers. But, on the other hand I'm also very relieved. Planning on calling my OBGYN soon to get his thoughts on all of this, and to ask about baby aspirin and progesterone.

Fantastic ABC, full steam ahead then to catch that perfect egg! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 so many fingers crossed and success wishes coming your way


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[emshe]

I think it is positive! This afternoon's test. https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6e5253
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So good!


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[emshe]

Vajayjay vay cay, yay!


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[emshe]

Emshe lets hope we conceive soon, :fingers:for u this month, it looks like u r already 2-3dpo. Im cd8:)

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[Pbn3]

Emshe i am also sooo tired. Already 1 year on diet, im running every day 1 hour, no meat so maybe my body is just too exhausted and doesnt want to conceive:worry:Noemi maybe you do nee to ease up, especially in the exercise? Drop it to 4-5 times a week... have you checked in with Atomic lately for advice? Are you doing the upper limits of the diet?

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[Pbn3]

This was our compromise. And it sucks. I’m angry and trying to deal with that emotion for now. Had a negative digital test this morning so there’s no hope here. Just resting in the mourning today.


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I can totally relate hannah [emoji173] let yourself be angry and sad and disappointed and all the rest. Once things settle down maybe you can talk or pen a letter to your husband describing your feelings about wanting this last baby and how having this one taken away has made you feel. My hubby was not on board fully for quite awhile when we were ttc, he went through the motions and would mostly do the attempts when I asked but he had no emotions invested in the process, and I felt very alone in that way when I went through my losses. I don't think he was excited about our last baby until I was nearly due [emoji23] and now he cant imagine life without her...

Your hubby *may* come around and at least agree to NTNP for awhile if he has a clear understanding of how you feel [emoji173]

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[Pbn3]

TP cannot wait for this 2ww of yours to be over!!! Are you temping? When will you start testing? From memory you seem to get squinters quite early right?

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[Pbn3]

I think it is positive! This afternoon's test. https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6e5253
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Sent from my SM-G930U using TapatalkGafan I still think it could get a little darker BUT if this is what a clear pos is for you then woohoo!! Go for it! Will you do another opk tonight just to check?

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[Pbn3]

DH's chromosome results came back & are normal. :highfive: So almost one month now of testing and waiting for results, and no answers. But, on the other hand I'm also very relieved. Planning on calling my OBGYN soon to get his thoughts on all of this, and to ask about baby aspirin and progesterone.Fantastic news Abc [emoji113]

You can go into your ttc cycle with this knowledge and it will hopefully take away some of the uncertainty [emoji173]

Cannot wait for your sticky bean [emoji304][emoji322]

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[Pbn3]

Vajayjay vay cay, yay!


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[Throwaway_panther]

TP cannot wait for this 2ww of yours to be over!!! Are you temping? When will you start testing? From memory you seem to get squinters quite early right?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Not temping because I thought I'd reduce my stress somewhat lol. And yup, I get squinters 8-10 DPO usually. And you guys know I'll be testing starting in a week lol

[ABC.2606]

Thanks emshe and Pbn... I think just having all these tests done and not having to wait for any more results is enough to relieve some of my mental burden for now. DH told me last night he wants to try next cycle... I'm still leaning against it, which he will be fine with, but we'll see. I have a couple more weeks to decide. And if we do decide we want to but that cyst on my ovary hasn't gone away by then (they want to check it again right before we start ttc), then we wont be able to next cycle anyways.

[ABC.2606]

Vajayjay vay cay, yay!


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LOL oh I love all you ladies - even if I've never met any of you in person!!!

[gafan]

Gafan I still think it could get a little darker BUT if this is what a clear pos is for you then woohoo!! Go for it! Will you do another opk tonight just to check?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]Thanks, Pbn. I agree. Tonight's at 7pm looks clearer and the urine was less concentrated (Drank more water). I haven't had ewcm through the day but have been a bit dehydrated. This morning there was some creamy mucus. If we BD tonight around 1030pm and I get a much clearer positive tomorrow I might have another attempt... Will review my personal plan for details on that fr9m atomic.39295

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[gafan]

LOL oh I love all you ladies - even if I've never met any of you in person!!!Me too! And I think it is funny that I tell you all things I don't even tell my therapist and don't know most of your names. Such a supportive group of women!

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks, Pbn. I agree. Tonight's at 7pm looks clearer and the urine was less concentrated (Drank more water). I haven't had ewcm through the day but have been a bit dehydrated. This morning there was some creamy mucus. If we BD tonight around 1030pm and I get a much clearer positive tomorrow I might have another attempt... Will review my personal plan for details on that fr9m atomic.39295

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Whoa is that tonight's?? That looks way darker than the one you posted earlier!! Looks to me like it's time to go catch the egg!!!!!

[emshe]

Thanks, Pbn. I agree. Tonight's at 7pm looks clearer and the urine was less concentrated (Drank more water). I haven't had ewcm through the day but have been a bit dehydrated. This morning there was some creamy mucus. If we BD tonight around 1030pm and I get a much clearer positive tomorrow I might have another attempt... Will review my personal plan for details on that fr9m atomic.39295

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This is really strong!


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[emshe]

LOL oh I love all you ladies - even if I've never met any of you in person!!!

I know right, like mindedness is in abundance here, & that makes for carefree connections, love it! Thank you ladies [emoji847]


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[Pbn3]

Thanks, Pbn. I agree. Tonight's at 7pm looks clearer and the urine was less concentrated (Drank more water). I haven't had ewcm through the day but have been a bit dehydrated. This morning there was some creamy mucus. If we BD tonight around 1030pm and I get a much clearer positive tomorrow I might have another attempt... Will review my personal plan for details on that fr9m atomic.39295

Sent from my SM-G930U using TapatalkNow that is a pos opk Gafan! Woohoo it's go time [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[hannahptrussell]

Hi ladies. Just a quick question. I am currently on progesterone suppositories. Got a digital negative after pregnancy tests were getting lighter. Should I go ahead and stop progesterone or should I continue u til I get bloodwork done? I feel like the progesterone May be delaying the bleeding


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[Pbn3]

Hannah I'd stop. No point in waiting for bloodwork IMO (hugs)

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[hannahptrussell]

Hannah I'd stop. No point in waiting for bloodwork IMO (hugs)

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thank you PBn. I feel like I just needed to hear that it is okay to stop [emoji6]


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[mummy2boys]

Definitely positive gafan, go go go! 🤞
That's great news about DH's tests abc, bet you are both relieved. Your sticky one is surely coming soon.
Hannah I hope you are ok. I think pbn is right, stopping the progesterone makes sense. This ttc business is so heartbreaking sometimes.
Yeah I love this board, I've joined lots of groups but this is the only one I actually post in, it's so supportive and such a positive place. Virtual group hug lol [emoji23]


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[Pbn3]

For all you ladies who have been through or are currently going through loss... my sister sent me flowers with this message after my 2nd loss which she was party too courtesy of our ill timed family reunion, she said when she read the quote in the paper she automatically thought of me and wrote it down in the flowers card. I found myself repeating these words over and over for the next few weeks and I'm sure in some weird bizarre way it helped. I'll never ever forget these words and the reason for saying them and that will stay with me for life. It's actually comforting for me, I think because of the emotional attachment I now have to the quote? In my own way, by saying these words, even just in my own head, I'm remembering and giving validation to my angel babies [emoji173] Thought I'd share it as I remember it giving me a boost of strength at the time [emoji173]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180413/3a43b043d864d21a3ebdd75c04769f5b.jpg

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[sunstars]

So sorry, hannah and nonerz, hugs.

Abc and throwaway_panther, just wanted to say I'm amazed by you, despite what you went through, you are so kind and thoughtful about others, and remain positive and bring so many positive vibes to us. You deserve all the happiness in the world, and the world deserves more children from such parents like you :) All the best to you and good luck!

Abc, I'm so happy that all the analyses are fine!

Verena, great that you could see so much on U/S! Keep getting good news!

Thanks everyone for support. I'm getting better, still not completely healed, I still don't know what to expect. The other day I was kind of sure I'm miscarrying, I had some strange pains and not feeling pregnant, but now I don't know. Tomorrow will be just 5 weeks. Oh, even after bfp symptom spotting continues, at one point I have one symptom, at the other - another, and then - nothing. It's crazy, what bad experience and loads of information can do to your mind, normal pregnancy with healthy babies seems like a miracle, not an ordinary thing.
Wishing all of us to get our miracles soon! :)

[Noemi2017]

Pbn yes Atomic told me exercise less...so now im running 6x weekly maybe i should even less. It is cd9 and im still spotting, it never happend to me before, isnt it some hormonal disbalance?:think:

[Throwaway_panther]

Hi ladies. Just a quick question. I am currently on progesterone suppositories. Got a digital negative after pregnancy tests were getting lighter. Should I go ahead and stop progesterone or should I continue u til I get bloodwork done? I feel like the progesterone May be delaying the bleeding


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I stopped before bloodwork because I feel it does delay it :( I'm so sorry this is happening.

[Throwaway_panther]

@PBN: That quote was my mantra before our second IVF cycle! I had forgotten about it because things got SO hard after that... thank you for sharing it!!

@sunstars: Omg thank you! You literally made me teary eyed!! I hope you're right and we get blessed with a healthy baby of our DG soon! Are you considering seeing a doctor about the spotting? I'm hoping bean stays sticky! Maybe just spotting from sex or a bowel movement?!

[Noemi2017]

Abc that is great news your tests are fine:Flower:

[ABC.2606]

Hannah, again, I'm so sorry. I had to decide to stop progesterone with m/c #2 and it was hard :(

Thanks Noemi!!! And I would agree with Pbn - maybe cut back a bit more on the exercise? I think even 4-5 days per week is still getting really good results!! I've done 5 days a week for most of my sway, but walking/exercise bike. You are one tough lady to be able to run every day!! I'd never be able to do that!!

Pbn - I love that quote!

Aw Sunstars that's so sweet of you to say!!! This board has been so important to me - especially the past couple of months. This last m/c of mine has been really tough to get through but having all the support and encouraging messages from all of you on here has helped so much!!! I do hope your spotting stops soon - as you may have seen me tell Girl Dreaming yesterday, I had early pregnancy spotting with DS1 and 2nd tri bleeding with DS2 and they both turned out just perfect!!! My 2nd trimester bleeding pregnancy is sitting here in front of me right now singing to himself and playing trucks!! Will be praying for this little bean of yours to stick!!!

Mummy can you post your chart link again? I saw something about your temps looking really good!!! :fingers:

[mummy2boys]

Here it is I think 🤞



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[hannahptrussell]

So can you ladies point me to some good advice on egg health starting CD1. We would love a girl but can ease on some sway tactics if needed.


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[ABC.2606]

Mummy - looks good!!!!

Hannah - Here's a post from Atomic about egg quality: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/803-boosting-egg-quality.html
I'm doing CO-Q10 (specifically ubiquinol - which is better absorbed), 200 mg per day. I think a lot of people do 400-600 mg per day - it is kind of expensive though.

After my 1st or 2nd m/c (I can't remember) Atomic advised me to increase folate (and no folic acid - folate only, and I'm taking 2,400 mcg/day), and take B12, zinc, and vitamin D - the lowest dose you can find of each - 3x/week.

I've also heard a lot about trying to avoid touching receipts b/c of the BPA in them, as BPA is supposed to negatively affect egg quality. I haven't exactly figured out how to do that though as it's kinda hard not to take your receipts when shopping! :) And obviously avoiding any plastics with BPA in them as well.

[hannahptrussell]

ABC, this is good stuff. Thank you! I did go ahead and buy CoQ10 and the lowest dose of D. I’ll add the others and invest in a good pill box!! Haha


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[ABC.2606]

ABC, this is good stuff. Thank you! I did go ahead and buy CoQ10 and the lowest dose of D. I’ll add the others and invest in a good pill box!! Haha


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Lol I just bought a new one recently and it has an "AM" and "PM" section for each day - makes me feel like I'm 75 years old!!!

Oh and with folate if you're taking a higher dose, atomic advises spreading it out over the day bc if you take a big dose at once your body will just pee a lot of it out I guess!

[ABC.2606]

So my 5 year old just asked me at dinner tonight how babies are made and he also said (for the millionth time) that he wants a girl baby. And he tried out some baby girl names. LOL! This was all unprompted. So apparently I'm not the only member of my household with babies on the brain! :) :)

[Throwaway_panther]

Mummy - looks good!!!!

Hannah - Here's a post from Atomic about egg quality: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/803-boosting-egg-quality.html
I'm doing CO-Q10 (specifically ubiquinol - which is better absorbed), 200 mg per day. I think a lot of people do 400-600 mg per day - it is kind of expensive though.

After my 1st or 2nd m/c (I can't remember) Atomic advised me to increase folate (and no folic acid - folate only, and I'm taking 2,400 mcg/day), and take B12, zinc, and vitamin D - the lowest dose you can find of each - 3x/week.

I've also heard a lot about trying to avoid touching receipts b/c of the BPA in them, as BPA is supposed to negatively affect egg quality. I haven't exactly figured out how to do that though as it's kinda hard not to take your receipts when shopping! :) And obviously avoiding any plastics with BPA in them as well.

I have wherever I'm shopping put them straight in the bags!! Otherwise I'll use my long sleeve over my hand to grab it haha. I've become pretty phobic about BPA and plastics.

[sunstars]

Abc, my 4.5 years old son bring this constantly for more than a year! He started to bring this couple of months after we've lost his sisters (and we didn't tell him, he had a sister in the hospital, well, I decided to wait for another day, but then things went downhill), and he wanted only sister in the beginning. If there was some small clothe or kind of girly looking toy he wouldn't want to play with, he would say we'll keep this for our baby girl :) He would ask for 3 or even 4 floor bed, not 2 floors as we planned, he would say "it's for our sisters" :) Later his "tastes" started to vary, now sometimes he says he would like a brother, and when indicating he already has a little brother he would say, "well, he's not a baby anymore or I want another one, a better one" :) So now it depends on his mood and the baby he sees on the streets, if he wants a brother or a sister, but the more time passes the more annoyed is his voice "When we will finally have our little baby?" To say the truth, it always made me feel good and not sad, and realize that no matter what, I'm still full of hope, that it will happen :)

[gafan]

My son hasn't been asking for a baby and that's been kind of nice because although I know only children are perfectly healthy I want him to have a sibling if possible.

How many days are you all testing for ovulation past a positive OPK?

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[Georgia_Peach]

Mummy - looks good!!!!

Hannah - Here's a post from Atomic about egg quality: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/803-boosting-egg-quality.html
I'm doing CO-Q10 (specifically ubiquinol - which is better absorbed), 200 mg per day. I think a lot of people do 400-600 mg per day - it is kind of expensive though.

After my 1st or 2nd m/c (I can't remember) Atomic advised me to increase folate (and no folic acid - folate only, and I'm taking 2,400 mcg/day), and take B12, zinc, and vitamin D - the lowest dose you can find of each - 3x/week.

I've also heard a lot about trying to avoid touching receipts b/c of the BPA in them, as BPA is supposed to negatively affect egg quality. I haven't exactly figured out how to do that though as it's kinda hard not to take your receipts when shopping! :) And obviously avoiding any plastics with BPA in them as well.I read "it starts with the egg" 2 months before my ivf cycle too.
I did coq10 and a TON of extra vitamins and also avoided plastics and receipts.
It worked for me as I had a total of 26 eggs collected and 8 made it to pgs perfect babies. 1 boy 7 girls!
I strongly believe taking these things before helped my results.

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[HGmama]

Still waiting for the opportunity to even try to TTC. 16 days post d&c, we got our baby's chromosomes back and it had turner syndrome. She was XO instead of XX or XY. Its hard to say if my sway truly worked since 80% it the sperm that was missing the 23rd chromosome (the sex chromosome, the X or Y). The other 20% it is the egg. But im calling her my baby girl either way. Anyways, since i am still having positive hpt i started quantitative hcgs. On wednesday the 11th it ended up being 105. So Im waiting on a 0 and AF before we can even TTC. I am thinking I will do another slight sway. Anyone think that miscarriage or d&c sway pink or blue for next pregnancy?

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[gafan]

Still waiting for the opportunity to even try to TTC. 16 days post d&c, we got our baby's chromosomes back and it had turner syndrome. She was XO instead of XX or XY. Its hard to say if my sway truly worked since 80% it the sperm that was missing the 23rd chromosome (the sex chromosome, the X or Y). The other 20% it is the egg. But im calling her my baby girl either way. Anyways, since i am still having positive hpt i started quantitative hcgs. On wednesday the 11th it ended up being 105. So Im waiting on a 0 and AF before we can even TTC. I am thinking I will do another slight sway. Anyone think that miscarriage or d&c sway pink or blue for next pregnancy?

Sent from my SM-G955UPerhaps knowing you lost her because of genetic problems could help ease some of the irrational guilty feelings most of us have about pregnancy loss? I hope so for you. Miscarriage sways pink, I am nearly certain.

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[Throwaway_panther]

I'm roughly 2DPO by OPKs and am having the most intense cramping. I'm stirring myself into a tizzy that I didn't actually O since I didn't temp this cycle. I had intense cramps and O pains up until suspected O, which is normal for me, but if I had these cramps later I'd be expecting implantation. At 2DPO, I'm sitting here worrying it's a cyst or no O or anything D: any experiences with this level of cramping after O?

[emshe]

It can all be so mind boggling can’t it TP!

Hope everyone’s having a nice weekend


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[ABC.2606]

Abc, my 4.5 years old son bring this constantly for more than a year! He started to bring this couple of months after we've lost his sisters (and we didn't tell him, he had a sister in the hospital, well, I decided to wait for another day, but then things went downhill), and he wanted only sister in the beginning. If there was some small clothe or kind of girly looking toy he wouldn't want to play with, he would say we'll keep this for our baby girl :) He would ask for 3 or even 4 floor bed, not 2 floors as we planned, he would say "it's for our sisters" :) Later his "tastes" started to vary, now sometimes he says he would like a brother, and when indicating he already has a little brother he would say, "well, he's not a baby anymore or I want another one, a better one" :) So now it depends on his mood and the baby he sees on the streets, if he wants a brother or a sister, but the more time passes the more annoyed is his voice "When we will finally have our little baby?" To say the truth, it always made me feel good and not sad, and realize that no matter what, I'm still full of hope, that it will happen :)

Awww that's so sweet!! It's really heartwarming isn't it? My DS1 is so sweet when he talks about wanting another sibling!!

[ABC.2606]

TP and Mamabird - yea I need to try to do more to avoid receipts. I should just start asking them to put them in the bag!!

HGMama - 105 doesn't sound too bad, are you doing another blood draw soon? I bet the next one it will have gone down a lot further. You're getting there!

TP - hmmm that's odd!! Unfortunately I have no idea - I don't really get cramps before, during or after O or during implantation. Or during AF or my miscarriages even! It's kinda odd. I also have a pretty large cyst on my right ovary right now and don't feel that either!

[Pbn3]

Hgmama that number sounds like your hcg is falling nicely and agree they should continue dropping pretty quickly now. Not long to go [emoji173]

Gafan did you end up having an attempt cd18?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[gafan]

Hgmama that number sounds like your hcg is falling nicely and agree they should continue dropping pretty quickly now. Not long to go [emoji173]

Gafan did you end up having an attempt cd18?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]Yes, late that night. Just added to my chart now. :::fingers crossed::::
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[HGmama]

Perhaps knowing you lost her because of genetic problems could help ease some of the irrational guilty feelings most of us have about pregnancy loss? I hope so for you. Miscarriage sways pink, I am nearly certain.

Sent from my SM-G930U using TapatalkYes gafan! It has helped immensely! I still havent received the bill and there is a possibility my insurance wont cover it but ill work extra shifts to pay if i have to. It has truly been the best blessing, knowing an answer.

I was happy with that # ABC and pbn3. Do you ladies remember how long it took you to get to 0? I remember ABC doing this recently i think, but cant find the details from old posts. Sorry.

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[gafan]

Yes gafan! It has helped immensely! I still havent received the bill and there is a possibility my insurance wont cover it but ill work extra shifts to pay if i have to. It has truly been the best blessing, knowing an answer.

I was happy with that # ABC and pbn3. Do you ladies remember how long it took you to get to 0? I remember ABC doing this recently i think, but cant find the details from old posts. Sorry.

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Yes gafan! It has helped immensely! I still havent received the bill and there is a possibility my insurance wont cover it but ill work extra shifts to pay if i have to. It has truly been the best blessing, knowing an answer.

I was happy with that # ABC and pbn3. Do you ladies remember how long it took you to get to 0? I remember ABC doing this recently i think, but cant find the details from old posts. Sorry.

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I wasn't testing, but when I had my D&C in December it took 4 wks 2 days to get my period and then two weeks until positive OPK.

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[gafan]

Can someone please tell me how to add the chart to my forum signature?
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[ABC.2606]

Yes gafan! It has helped immensely! I still havent received the bill and there is a possibility my insurance wont cover it but ill work extra shifts to pay if i have to. It has truly been the best blessing, knowing an answer.

I was happy with that # ABC and pbn3. Do you ladies remember how long it took you to get to 0? I remember ABC doing this recently i think, but cant find the details from old posts. Sorry.

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Mine was 146 around 10 or 11 days post D&C and one week later it was 25. 6 days after that AF arrived and I still had a +HPT on a FRER but it was really light. RE told me it was normal to get AF with just a small amount of HCG left in the system because the progesterone can fall before the HCG is completely cleared out, causing AF to start. So my thought is you could see AF within the next couple of weeks. FX!

[ABC.2606]

Well ladies, DH and I screwed up (literally...). We BD-d last night unprotected - totally unplanned - a combination of my having some wine and feeling depressed over everything again and DH really wanting to DTD (and he gave me a long massage beforehand - LOL, Pbn just like what happened to you!). This was totally NOT planned - I do not want to get pregnant this cycle and now I'm completely terrified that we will. I've been taking wondfo opks the past few days only b/c I wanted to know what's going on w/ my cycle and when I ovulate, and up through this afternoon they are still negative, but I'm terrified I'm going to O in the next couple of days giving us a very good shot at getting pregnant (I'm super fertile - usually get pregnant on the first try and have gotten pregnant w/1 attempt more than once now). I'm also terrified b/c DH abstained for 7 days (also very unintentional) and with our m/c history and him turning 35 this summer I'm SO worried if we do get pregnant baby will not be healthy and/or we'll just be headed for another m/c. I had a good cry this afternoon and DH is trying to calm me down. I just totally lost my head last night for a few minutes - which I never do when it comes to this! Our baby-making has always been so careful and planned out. Been praying throughout the day and trying to leave it all up to God but I'm so upset with myself. DH keeps telling me if it happens and baby sticks then it's meant to be.

Ugh. Anyways... So I may be joining you guys in the tww in a few days from now.. But not happily :'(

[ABC.2606]

Can someone please tell me how to add the chart to my forum signature?
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Go to "Settings" at the top right of Gender Dreaming and then under "My Settings" on the left side, click "Edit Signature"

[gafan]

Well ladies, DH and I screwed up (literally...). We BD-d last night unprotected - totally unplanned - a combination of my having some wine and feeling depressed over everything again and DH really wanting to DTD (and he gave me a long massage beforehand - LOL, Pbn just like what happened to you!). This was totally NOT planned - I do not want to get pregnant this cycle and now I'm completely terrified that we will. I've been taking wondfo opks the past few days only b/c I wanted to know what's going on w/ my cycle and when I ovulate, and up through this afternoon they are still negative, but I'm terrified I'm going to O in the next couple of days giving us a very good shot at getting pregnant (I'm super fertile - usually get pregnant on the first try and have gotten pregnant w/1 attempt more than once now). I'm also terrified b/c DH abstained for 7 days (also very unintentional) and with our m/c history and him turning 35 this summer I'm SO worried if we do get pregnant baby will not be healthy and/or we'll just be headed for another m/c. I had a good cry this afternoon and DH is trying to calm me down. I just totally lost my head last night for a few minutes - which I never do when it comes to this! Our baby-making has always been so careful and planned out. Been praying throughout the day and trying to leave it all up to God but I'm so upset with myself. DH keeps telling me if it happens and baby sticks then it's meant to be.

Ugh. Anyways... So I may be joining you guys in the tww in a few days from now.. But not happily :'(ABC sorry to hear you're feeling so stressed. I don't know if it's reassuring to hear but it sounds like your chances of pregnancy are still pretty low. I will be thinking of you and hoping you get more negative opks to ease your mind.

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[Pbn3]

Gafan yes I'd stop using opks if they've faded out and you're doing e4d. Ideally we'll see a spike in temp tomorrow.

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Abc didn't know about the massage part [emoji50] how spookily eerily similar to how I got pregnant [emoji33] how negative was your opk?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Hgmama I'm not 100% sure but I think it took about 3 or 4 weeks for my levels to drop right back down. I recall having three blood tests (weekly) and the last was an 8? So it would've dropped to below 5 a few days after I imagine.

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Abc didn't know about the massage part [emoji50] how spookily eerily similar to how I got pregnant [emoji33] how negative was your opk?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

I know, I can't believe I forgot to tell you that part! He was all about giving me a massage LOL!

Here's this afternoon's OPK

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[Pbn3]

Hmmm that actually may have a chance of being pos tomorrow but then you wouldn't ovulate until Monday or Tuesday. Best to wait and see how tomorrows opk looks. No use speculating and worrying about something that may not happen.

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

I know, I can't believe I forgot to tell you that part! He was all about giving me a massage LOL!

Here's this afternoon's OPK

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I’d like to think that if it happens it really is meant to be ABC. I’ll hope for you that what you want will be. Hugs. Clearly it was a good massage [emoji6]


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[Parying4agirl]

Hey ABC hope things go your way but if u do get preg its meant to be! These things happen for a reason. Dont kick yourself over itz
My hubby is 35 and we did unintentional abstain of 7 days as he was ill and then our positive opk came, so did out attempt which made me preg. It is a worry that abstain causes baby issues esp with my history but im praying all is well. We have to leave things down to the One Above /fate and watch what happens.

[HGmama]

Well ladies, DH and I screwed up (literally...). We BD-d last night unprotected - totally unplanned - a combination of my having some wine and feeling depressed over everything again and DH really wanting to DTD (and he gave me a long massage beforehand - LOL, Pbn just like what happened to you!). This was totally NOT planned - I do not want to get pregnant this cycle and now I'm completely terrified that we will. I've been taking wondfo opks the past few days only b/c I wanted to know what's going on w/ my cycle and when I ovulate, and up through this afternoon they are still negative, but I'm terrified I'm going to O in the next couple of days giving us a very good shot at getting pregnant (I'm super fertile - usually get pregnant on the first try and have gotten pregnant w/1 attempt more than once now). I'm also terrified b/c DH abstained for 7 days (also very unintentional) and with our m/c history and him turning 35 this summer I'm SO worried if we do get pregnant baby will not be healthy and/or we'll just be headed for another m/c. I had a good cry this afternoon and DH is trying to calm me down. I just totally lost my head last night for a few minutes - which I never do when it comes to this! Our baby-making has always been so careful and planned out. Been praying throughout the day and trying to leave it all up to God but I'm so upset with myself. DH keeps telling me if it happens and baby sticks then it's meant to be.

Ugh. Anyways... So I may be joining you guys in the tww in a few days from now.. But not happily :'(As a girl still on pelvic rest.... ugh.... I'm not going to lie.... sooooooo jealous you got some.
Hahahahahahahaha.

As i see it, there's nothing to do about it now. Its either too early or it's going to be your healthy baby girl. Anxious to see your opks in the coming days.

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[ABC.2606]

This is with a small amount of SMU, 2 hour hold. Thinking it will be clearly positive this afternoon.

Going to be an interesting next couple of weeks...

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[Parying4agirl]

i believe we make our own plans but the one Above makes better plans ☺️!

[Throwaway_panther]

This is with a small amount of SMU, 2 hour hold. Thinking it will be clearly positive this afternoon.

Going to be an interesting next couple of weeks...

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Ahhh, that cheapie would make me nervous too. Lol, well stress can delay ovulation and you're already doing that?! I do want to stress: no batch of semen is completely imperfect fyi. Even my own husband with his cluster**** of sperm still has popped out a good one occasionally! So I know that we with RPL and GD have this complex batch of emotions: fear and anxiety over loss, than fear and anxiety over the gender (and sometimes in reverse priority, which I admit is true in my case still). But you could still get that good sperm, and it could still be that good X!

OR -- you won't get pregnant since you're still some days away from O, since even if you got a positive OPK tonight or tomorrow, you wouldn't O until at least a day or so after too, right?

I'm crossing my fingers for you. I know I've been in your place before and have gotten pregnant, and had a loss. But I'm also exceptionally unlucky, and I refuse to believe you will fall into the same misfortune as me!


@praying4girl: As for the "someone makes better plans," I'm happy that some of you can believe that if it helps you. Just please know that those comments can come off as insensitive for those of us with loss. Hearing that the unbearable pain I've been through losing 10 babies is somehow ordained is quite hurtful.

[Noemi2017]

Abc i hope it will happen what is the best for u...:pray::heart:

[Parying4agirl]

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@praying4girl: As for the "someone makes better plans," I'm happy that some of you can believe that if it helps you. Just please know that those comments can come off as insensitive for those of us with loss. Hearing that the unbearable pain I've been through losing 10 babies is somehow ordained is quite hurtful.[/QUOTE]


Sorry if it came across insenstive as i was not referring to the losses at all. I was talking if it were to lead to a pregnancy for ABc.
I have been through alot of losses, one at 3 weeks old so I for sure know not to be insensitive about my comments intentionally.

[Throwaway_panther]

Sorry if it came across insenstive as i was not referring to the losses at all. I was talking if it were to lead to a pregnancy for ABc.
I have been through alot of losses, one at 3 weeks old so I for sure know not to be insensitive about my comments intentionally.

I definitely didn't think it was intentional! :)

[Mommy2apples]

i believe we make our own plans but the one Above makes better plans [emoji5]!

Agree Parying4agirl. I know you wasn’t being insensitive as I know abc knows that as well. As we all have been through losses. I do believe in the good lord above and turn to him for all my troubles. He’s always answered my prayers even if it wasn’t the way I wanted, he always knows what is best for me. I will never deny him for anyone. People either accept that of me
Or they don’t. I’m not here to please people, I’m here to please the lord. ABC knows we care about her and would never be insensitive toward her. Nor would I anyone else.


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks, friends. All of your support and care is so important to me and I'm very grateful for all of you!!!

Digital is still negative with afternoon urine and Wondfo is about the same as this morning's. I think it's looking more unlikely to happen. Given that I usually ovulate 1-2 days (and sometimes longer) after +OPK, and we're already 40+ hours from the attempt, the odds are going to be low. Not impossible, but low, and I'm praying and hoping that if it happens, it was just meant to be, and that it will result in a healthy baby girl. Right now I'm just watching and waiting and trying not to drive myself crazy in the meantime!! LOL easier said than done.

[Pbn3]

Wow that's getting close Abc...



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys even though it's still early days temp wise when I look at your chart I straight away think 'pregnant!' Gosh I hope it's true fx fx fx!!!

Noemi that's alot of spotting... has it completely stopped now? Have you had an extended period like that before?

Emshe that spotting cd24!! Could easily be implantation related fx fx fx!!! I noticed you didn't have any spotting post o last cycle [emoji6]

Gafan I think its possible you may be 1 or 2dpo?? Sundays temp is an open circle, did you take it earlier than usual?



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Wow that's getting close Abc...



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

LOL uh oh - am I stressing you out too Pbn? :) I don't want to rub my stress off on to others!

I know - it's close. But if I don't O until 36+ hours past the first +OPK (which is normal for me) there probably wont be much left, yea? At the earliest it should be a 3-O attempt. I J&D and DH had abstained so the amount of sperm in there probably isn't that high. :nails:

[mummy2boys]

That opk looks pretty close abc! Try not to worry about it, like you say only a low chance but I have everything crossed for you that if it did happen, it's your sticky baby girl 🤞
Haha thanks pbn, I've not got my hopes up as feeling really crampy (like period type dragging sensations) that I usually get around this time in my cycle. Still in with a chance though I guess. I actually don't mind so much if it's not my month as I've put so much weight on since giving up the diet! I need to get back on it, just got no willpower [emoji23]
Emshe, you and me are very close on our dpo! I imagine we'll be testing at the same time! Exciting 🤞


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[Parying4agirl]

Thanks u so so much for your messge Mommy2apples, actually touched me deeply and meant alot. I understand not everyone has a faith or belief but especially after losing my dS1 the Lord has got me where I am today.i have family and friends around me but it is Him that i can talk to and open my heart to, lighten the heavy burdern i feel at times, missing my baby so much.
All of us here are on a similar journey, yearning for a child (whichever way that may be) and i know most of us have had great losses on the way, i just believe if A life is meant to come into this world, then it will no matter what we may plan in our heads.


Agree Parying4agirl. I know you wasn’t being insensitive as I know abc knows that as well. As we all have been through losses. I do believe in the good lord above and turn to him for all my troubles. He’s always answered my prayers even if it wasn’t the way I wanted, he always knows what is best for me. I will never deny him for anyone. People either accept that of me
Or they don’t. I’m not here to please people, I’m here to please the lord. ABC knows we care about her and would never be insensitive toward her. Nor would I anyone else.


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[emshe]

Mummy2boys even though it's still early days temp wise when I look at your chart I straight away think 'pregnant!' Gosh I hope it's true fx fx fx!!!

Noemi that's alot of spotting... has it completely stopped now? Have you had an extended period like that before?

Emshe that spotting cd24!! Could easily be implantation related fx fx fx!!! I noticed you didn't have any spotting post o last cycle [emoji6]

Gafan I think its possible you may be 1 or 2dpo?? Sundays temp is an open circle, did you take it earlier than usual?



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Unfortunately Pbn it’s like clockwork the same as last month despite trying clomid later (5-9) to give my estrogen a chance to get going. I have got up to see more AF like bleeding. I was so hopeful.

I think maybe it’s time for me to realise that my boys are my happy ever after & start living. I am so tired, tired physically & emotionally, tired of being scared of getting sick from my kids germs, tired of living daily for the future instead of being in the now. I don’t know if I can ever find a balance whilst I keep on this journey I’ve been on for years.

Our 2015 angel [emoji72] birthday should be next month, and then our recent successful baby girl HT loss [emoji72] should be due in July. Plus the transfers that didn’t take, they all carry heartache all the time, but dates on a calendar really make their mark.

Is it time to concede defeat, to give up in clomid, just let go of swaying?
Is my body even capable anymore?
Life isn’t real happy around here and I know that weighs heavily on me & I suffer from anxiety and depression somewhat now. Maybe it’s time to get on top of that so I can be more the mum my boys deserve & get the happy back in all our relationships, not just the clinging to it will all be great once we have our girl. A notion that seems it may never come.

I’m sorry to burden you all with such heaviness but please know if I do disappear I am doing some soul searching, lots of crying & perhaps smashing a bag of crisps, some ice cream &/or chocolate for a day or 2, & then torturing myself with guilt [emoji51].

But if I’m not here, please know that I am still 100% thinking of you ladies fighting for your dreams & hoping beyond hope that you indeed get your happily ever after, you all deserve that xoxo thank you for hoping the same for me the last 2 months, it has meant the world [emoji847]

I may try in June, but I don’t know what I should do regarding the clomid, maybe 25mg would be more successful?


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[Mommy2apples]

Thanks u so so much for your messge Mommy2apples, actually touched me deeply and meant alot. I understand not everyone has a faith or belief but especially after losing my dS1 the Lord has got me where I am today.i have family and friends around me but it is Him that i can talk to and open my heart to, lighten the heavy burdern i feel at times, missing my baby so much.
All of us here are on a similar journey, yearning for a child (whichever way that may be) and i know most of us have had great losses on the way, i just believe if A life is meant to come into this world, then it will no matter what we may plan in our heads.

So sorry for your loss momma. You will get your precious baby! ❤️


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[Mommy2apples]

Cheering all of you on to get your precious babies! That’s why I keep hanging out here to see it happen as does PBN! ❤️


6/2003 [emoji1349]2/2009 [emoji1407] 12/2012 [emoji1349]4/2015 [emoji1406] 2015 [emoji1356] 2016 [emoji1413] The Lord Answered my [emoji1317] 2017🤰due June 2018, with a healthy [emoji1405][emoji166]to fit into our crazy bunch, and Complete our Family![emoji7][emoji8]

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[Throwaway_panther]

Unfortunately Pbn it’s like clockwork the same as last month despite trying clomid later (5-9) to give my estrogen a chance to get going. I have got up to see more AF like bleeding. I was so hopeful.

I think maybe it’s time for me to realise that my boys are my happy ever after & start living. I am so tired, tired physically & emotionally, tired of being scared of getting sick from my kids germs, tired of living daily for the future instead of being in the now. I don’t know if I can ever find a balance whilst I keep on this journey I’ve been on for years.

Our 2015 angel [emoji72] birthday should be next month, and then our recent successful baby girl HT loss [emoji72] should be due in July. Plus the transfers that didn’t take, they all carry heartache all the time, but dates on a calendar really make their mark.

Is it time to concede defeat, to give up in clomid, just let go of swaying?
Is my body even capable anymore?
Life isn’t real happy around here and I know that weighs heavily on me & I suffer from anxiety and depression somewhat now. Maybe it’s time to get on top of that so I can be more the mum my boys deserve & get the happy back in all our relationships, not just the clinging to it will all be great once we have our girl. A notion that seems it may never come.

I’m sorry to burden you all with such heaviness but please know if I do disappear I am doing some soul searching, lots of crying & perhaps smashing a bag of crisps, some ice cream &/or chocolate for a day or 2, & then torturing myself with guilt [emoji51].

But if I’m not here, please know that I am still 100% thinking of you ladies fighting for your dreams & hoping beyond hope that you indeed get your happily ever after, you all deserve that xoxo thank you for hoping the same for me the last 2 months, it has meant the world [emoji847]

I may try in June, but I don’t know what I should do regarding the clomid, maybe 25mg would be more successful?


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Oh honey, I am so sorry you're feeling all of that. I definitely understand completely and have thought this so many times. Please feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk. I know the "ghost" birthdays really weight heavy. Our next missed EDD is our wedding anniversary next month (and the last one was my birthday in February), and then literally it's almost nonstop loss due dates until 2019, including of our two XYs we transferred and lost. It's all so hard when even those days get bogged down in grief.

I have seen so many women "give up" on swaying or trying and falling pregnant with their DG. So you could try that? Maybe a break is what your body and mind need? But I also know there's the women who were "just about to give up" then fell pregnant with their DG.

It's so hard to know, and obviously we can't base our decisions off of what happened with other people. It's just so hard when we want something so bad and don't know if it's our own selves getting in our way of happiness :(

I'm here for you <3

[gafan]

Unfortunately Pbn it’s like clockwork the same as last month despite trying clomid later (5-9) to give my estrogen a chance to get going. I have got up to see more AF like bleeding. I was so hopeful.

I think maybe it’s time for me to realise that my boys are my happy ever after & start living. I am so tired, tired physically & emotionally, tired of being scared of getting sick from my kids germs, tired of living daily for the future instead of being in the now. I don’t know if I can ever find a balance whilst I keep on this journey I’ve been on for years.

Our 2015 angel [emoji72] birthday should be next month, and then our recent successful baby girl HT loss [emoji72] should be due in July. Plus the transfers that didn’t take, they all carry heartache all the time, but dates on a calendar really make their mark.

Is it time to concede defeat, to give up in clomid, just let go of swaying?
Is my body even capable anymore?
Life isn’t real happy around here and I know that weighs heavily on me & I suffer from anxiety and depression somewhat now. Maybe it’s time to get on top of that so I can be more the mum my boys deserve & get the happy back in all our relationships, not just the clinging to it will all be great once we have our girl. A notion that seems it may never come.

I’m sorry to burden you all with such heaviness but please know if I do disappear I am doing some soul searching, lots of crying & perhaps smashing a bag of crisps, some ice cream &/or chocolate for a day or 2, & then torturing myself with guilt [emoji51].

But if I’m not here, please know that I am still 100% thinking of you ladies fighting for your dreams & hoping beyond hope that you indeed get your happily ever after, you all deserve that xoxo thank you for hoping the same for me the last 2 months, it has meant the world [emoji847]

I may try in June, but I don’t know what I should do regarding the clomid, maybe 25mg would be more successful?


https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35220bHugs to you, emshe. And try to skip the self torture after chocolate and chips. Be kind to yourself as you make these difficult decisions.

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[Parying4agirl]

Emshe it must be so difficult for what your going through and i wish u all the comfort. Have some time to yourself, stuff yourself and enjoy every min of it ☺️
Making these decisions are so so difficult but take each day as it comes and see how you feel. Like PP said maybe some time away for your mind/body to relax is what may help get your happy ending as i too have heard people get pregnant once they have ‘given up’ . Its an exhausting process, wishing you the best of health xx

[gafan]

Mummy2boys even though it's still early days temp wise when I look at your chart I straight away think 'pregnant!' Gosh I hope it's true fx fx fx!!!

Noemi that's alot of spotting... has it completely stopped now? Have you had an extended period like that before?

Emshe that spotting cd24!! Could easily be implantation related fx fx fx!!! I noticed you didn't have any spotting post o last cycle [emoji6]

Gafan I think its possible you may be 1 or 2dpo?? Sundays temp is an open circle, did you take it earlier than usual?



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

I am hoping those temps indicate O. Sunday's temp was 98.22 F at 6:07 am, which was earlier than yesterday due having to get up to go to the bathroom. (At 7:12 a.m. this morning after another hour of sleep it was 98.40.) Yesterday I woke and tested at 6:37am and again at 7:05 (without getting out of bed)- 98.07.

I'm trying to keep the testing at the same time every day but accidentally waking up early is not helping! Tonight i will try to drink less. I test as soon as I wake before moving.

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[ABC.2606]

Emshe - I am so sorry :( I was so hopeful for you this cycle too. I just don't understand why ttc has to be so much harder for some than it is others. I've had a lot of the same thoughts as you (and being scared of getting sick from the kids - OMG I'm a freak about that and drive my DH crazy!!). It's so draining and it does affect the rest of the family going through this. For days after my D&C I didn't want to even get out of bed. Thankfully my in-laws were in town at that time and took care of my boys - but my DS1 in particular has seen me sad and crying so many times in the past couple of months (and also seen a lot of my anger and temper, unfortunately) and DH and I really worry about the effect it's having on him. It just sucks. You've been through so much and it's just not fair. Take a break and please, please do not feel any guilt about anything you eat!! Please take good care of yourself, as much as you can - yes, your family needs you, but you can't take care of them if you aren't taking care of you (a mantra I repeat to myself quite often these days too!!!). If you decide to disappear from here of course we will all miss you so much but know we're still here whenever you need!!!

[ABC.2606]

Gafan and Mummy - I have everything crossed for you!!!!

[Pbn3]

Wish I could give you the biggest hug emshe [emoji173] I understand completely about being so fed up living and breathing ttc and the feeling of life passing you by while you're stuck in this limbo of still wanting but not wanting. By all means do what you need to do to look after you and your beautiful family. We will miss you dearly xo. Maybe try and find a new passion (I applied for a couple casual jobs as I really wanted to reconnect again in that way with the world) If you can work towards accepting life how it is and maybe just not try, not prevent but live life like you're done with ttc. You need to be happy and all this is a terrible wait on your shoulders. Again, huge hugs [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Emshe - I am so sorry :( I was so hopeful for you this cycle too. I just don't understand why ttc has to be so much harder for some than it is others. I've had a lot of the same thoughts as you (and being scared of getting sick from the kids - OMG I'm a freak about that and drive my DH crazy!!). It's so draining and it does affect the rest of the family going through this. For days after my D&C I didn't want to even get out of bed. Thankfully my in-laws were in town at that time and took care of my boys - but my DS1 in particular has seen me sad and crying so many times in the past couple of months (and also seen a lot of my anger and temper, unfortunately) and DH and I really worry about the effect it's having on him. It just sucks. You've been through so much and it's just not fair. Take a break and please, please do not feel any guilt about anything you eat!! Please take good care of yourself, as much as you can - yes, your family needs you, but you can't take care of them if you aren't taking care of you (a mantra I repeat to myself quite often these days too!!!). If you decide to disappear from here of course we will all miss you so much but know we're still here whenever you need!!!

Oh my this about your son seeing things.... my boys have seen so much. Mine are turning 8 & 11 this year and have been by my side for all of it since the first loss in 2015 no one has known & so I’ve never reached out for help. My eldest sat beside me that first loss for a day with his head on my shoulder completely unaware of what had happened.

I talked to him about it all last year during the 2nd round of HT as he needed to understand. The losses absolutely gutted him. He was broken. But now even he sometimes says (even though he so wants a baby) Mum we don’t need another baby let’s just be us when he sees me sad.

Thank you for your thoughts ABC it helps so so much. & yes my husband hates my germphobia! And he doesn’t respond kindly which makes me sad he can’t understand why I’m so protective.

My kids ages also makes me question continuing, life is quite easy with them now, so independent....agh! There’s so many reasons against continuing but HOW do I give up on what I’ve dreamt of forever


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[emshe]

Wish I could give you the biggest hug emshe [emoji173] I understand completely about being so fed up living and breathing ttc and the feeling of life passing you by while you're stuck in this limbo of still wanting but not wanting. By all means do what you need to do to look after you and your beautiful family. We will miss you dearly xo. Maybe try and find a new passion (I applied for a couple casual jobs as I really wanted to reconnect again in that way with the world) If you can work towards accepting life how it is and maybe just not try, not prevent but live life like you're done with ttc. You need to be happy and all this is a terrible wait on your shoulders. Again, huge hugs [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thank you so much Pbn, I know you’re right that’s the way I should possibly play it & I will try but I am a true boy mum in every sense of the control & planning freakiness! Think I’d have to chop my head off to overcome it [emoji6] actually my obsessive routine nature will make it very difficult to step away from these boards too!

I’d love to get a job in some ways, but after almost 11 years away I have lost so much confidence I wouldn’t know where to start.

Enjoy your baby girl & your family Pbn we all owe you so much gratitude for your continued advice & support






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[emshe]

Emshe it must be so difficult for what your going through and i wish u all the comfort. Have some time to yourself, stuff yourself and enjoy every min of it [emoji5]
Making these decisions are so so difficult but take each day as it comes and see how you feel. Like PP said maybe some time away for your mind/body to relax is what may help get your happy ending as i too have heard people get pregnant once they have ‘given up’ . Its an exhausting process, wishing you the best of health xx

Thank you parying4agirl, I appreciate your kindness. I’ll try to enjoy it some time out


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[emshe]

Hugs to you, emshe. And try to skip the self torture after chocolate and chips. Be kind to yourself as you make these difficult decisions.

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I will do my best gafan, thank you


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[emshe]

Oh honey, I am so sorry you're feeling all of that. I definitely understand completely and have thought this so many times. Please feel free to PM me if you ever want to talk. I know the "ghost" birthdays really weight heavy. Our next missed EDD is our wedding anniversary next month (and the last one was my birthday in February), and then literally it's almost nonstop loss due dates until 2019, including of our two XYs we transferred and lost. It's all so hard when even those days get bogged down in grief.

I have seen so many women "give up" on swaying or trying and falling pregnant with their DG. So you could try that? Maybe a break is what your body and mind need? But I also know there's the women who were "just about to give up" then fell pregnant with their DG.

It's so hard to know, and obviously we can't base our decisions off of what happened with other people. It's just so hard when we want something so bad and don't know if it's our own selves getting in our way of happiness :(

I'm here for you <3

Thanks TP, so much to try to let go of, it’s certainly all the thinking that gets in the way of life for me. Just need to learn how to switch it off. I’ll try my best


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[Parying4agirl]

Verena how are things?

[Throwaway_panther]

Had EWCM this morning. Supposedly 4DPO but now I'm doubting it :( OPK is negative though. Boobs have been sore and I broke out, so I though I might have O'd and it was all progesterone. If only I had temped this cycle! DH and I had sex yesterday, but in the morning -- so I can't imagine this is leftovers from that almost 24 hours later?

[HGmama]

Had EWCM this morning. Supposedly 4DPO but now I'm doubting it :( OPK is negative though. Boobs have been sore and I broke out, so I though I might have O'd and it was all progesterone. If only I had temped this cycle! DH and I had sex yesterday, but in the morning -- so I can't imagine this is leftovers from that almost 24 hours later?It could be the leftovers mixing it up. I remember this one time i was like... woah this totally looks like ewcm and it was about a day dtd. I was temping and it was like 8dpo for me. I remember being confused too. Like am i ovulating twice?? I just let it be and it was gone the next time i went to bathroom. So who knows. Id go with opks, but thats just me.

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[Noemi2017]

Emshe:LotsofLove:

[Noemi2017]

Pbn spotting stopped so i hope my cycle will continue normal:pray:

[HGmama]

The wondfo hpt advertising sensitivity of 20-25, so does that relate to blood hcg? Like does a squinter probably mean; I'm in the 30's??? What do ya'll think?

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[Throwaway_panther]

The wondfo hpt advertising sensitivity of 20-25, so does that relate to blood hcg? Like does a squinter probably mean; I'm in the 30's??? What do ya'll think?

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After a million pregnancies with WondFo, I think a squinter would be lower than that. Some of them can even detect as low as 10-15!

[ABC.2606]

TP - I know you aren't temping this cycle but do you have a normal "post-O" temp range, and if so could you take your temp for the next day or two to see if it looks like you have ovulated? As far as the "leftovers", I don't know - I think I told you that on Saturday I had a lot of "EWCM" for most of the day (we DTD the night before) but then since Saturday, I've not had any - it's been alternating between dry, wet, and creamy - and I haven't gotten a positive OPK (digital or wondfo), so I'm wondering if all that "EWCM" was leftover from Friday. Hard to tell sometimes yea? I really wonder if your cycle just may be all screwed up because of the IVF stuff and the hormones. I still think my hormones are screwed up just from an early-ish m/c and D&C - I've had a lot of breakouts as well and the fact that it's CD16 and I haven't had a +OPK yet is totally not normal for me (I normally O by CD15 at the latest). So not saying it's the same as your situation but I just wonder if we're both being screwed up by hormones right now.

HGMama - I agree with TP, I think those cheapies can detect at a lower amount. That's a good sign though - as long as the HCG keeps dropping, however slowly, your body is doing exactly the right thing!

Noemi glad your spotting stopped!! What CD are you now? What's your plan for this cycle? (Are you doing E4D? 1 attempt?)

[ABC.2606]

TP - I know you aren't temping this cycle but do you have a normal "post-O" temp range, and if so could you take your temp for the next day or two to see if it looks like you have ovulated? As far as the "leftovers", I don't know - I think I told you that on Saturday I had a lot of "EWCM" for most of the day (we DTD the night before) but then since Saturday, I've not had any - it's been alternating between dry, wet, and creamy - and I haven't gotten a positive OPK (digital or wondfo), so I'm wondering if all that "EWCM" was leftover from Friday. Hard to tell sometimes yea? I really wonder if your cycle just may be all screwed up because of the IVF stuff and the hormones. I still think my hormones are screwed up just from an early-ish m/c and D&C - I've had a lot of breakouts as well and the fact that it's CD16 and I haven't had a +OPK yet is totally not normal for me (I normally O by CD15 at the latest). So not saying it's the same as your situation but I just wonder if we're both being screwed up by hormones right now.

HGMama - I agree with TP, I think those cheapies can detect at a lower amount. That's a good sign though - as long as the HCG keeps dropping, however slowly, your body is doing exactly the right thing!

Noemi glad your spotting stopped!! What CD are you now? What's your plan for this cycle? (Are you doing E4D? 1 attempt?)

[mummy2boys]

Emshe, hope you are ok. Just sending a hug if you do check in here.
Hope everyone else is doing ok.
Did you get your positive opk abc? I may have missed it.
TP, I sometimes have a small amount of ewcm around 3/4 dpo. It always confuses me lol.


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[mummy2boys]

Ah just seen your post abc, you haven't had a positive yet have you? How are you feeling?


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