Awesome April 2ww & TTC thread [emoji120]

[Noemi2017]

Thx u Abc:bighug:im cd12 and doing e4d.

[ABC.2606]

Welp, here it is ladies. I'm guessing I'll O tomorrow, so attempt would be O-4. Not good odds right? Nothing to do but wait and see what happens.

Mummy - I'm nervous :) Just praying if it happens there was a really strong little X sperm that hung around and waited for the egg! If it doesn't happen I'll be relieved though.

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[Noemi2017]

Yesss it is positive so now it is in God’s hands...:pray:

[Girlswaylondon]

Abc I beliebe if it was meant to be it will be :)

[Pbn3]

Abc I'd think there's very very little chance you'll conceive from your bd Friday night. There's a good chance you wont even o until Wednesday going by your past history...

Is there any temptation to bd tonight? Or did your whoopsie on Friday really drive home not feeling ready?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Oh my this about your son seeing things.... my boys have seen so much. Mine are turning 8 & 11 this year and have been by my side for all of it since the first loss in 2015 no one has known & so I’ve never reached out for help. My eldest sat beside me that first loss for a day with his head on my shoulder completely unaware of what had happened.

I talked to him about it all last year during the 2nd round of HT as he needed to understand. The losses absolutely gutted him. He was broken. But now even he sometimes says (even though he so wants a baby) Mum we don’t need another baby let’s just be us when he sees me sad.

Thank you for your thoughts ABC it helps so so much. & yes my husband hates my germphobia! And he doesn’t respond kindly which makes me sad he can’t understand why I’m so protective.

My kids ages also makes me question continuing, life is quite easy with them now, so independent....agh! There’s so many reasons against continuing but HOW do I give up on what I’ve dreamt of forever


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Wow this made me tear up! Your DS sounds like a total sweetheart who loves his mama and family so much!!!

The "how do I give up on the dream" thing was the question I kept asking after my D&C. I don't know how one knows when to make that decision or how to feel at peace with it. I don't know what to say on that - b/c I feel the same thing - but will just say you aren't alone!! Sending you huge hugs!!

[ABC.2606]

Abc I'd think there's very very little chance you'll conceive from your bd Friday night. There's a good chance you wont even o until Wednesday going by your past history...

Is there any temptation to bd tonight? Or did your whoopsie on Friday really drive home not feeling ready?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

There is a *small* temptation to BD again today - especially seeing that strong positive Wondfo! But what I've come to decide is that *if* we got pregnant off of that one attempt then maybe it really was meant to be, and, I think there'd be a pretty decent shot of it being a girl (1 attempt, abstain, J&D, even cut off, even though I know timing doesn't sway). If we added another attempt tonight then I think I'd be more likely to beat myself up about not "doing enough" (not a long enough time back on the diet, no Clomid, possibly two fertile window attempts). Plus, I told the RE I would not try this cycle, and I've got that big cyst on my right ovary, so I think it's better to just go back to our plan if it didn't happen this time. I'm more tempted now to try next cycle but I'm not sure I can get past the whole having the due date be so close to DS1 thing. You had that too right? Two January birthdays close together? I don't know - I so overthink and analyze things which I know is TERRIBLE for a girl sway!

I talked with my OBGYN today to ask him about the baby aspirin (and update him on all the testing) and he said do the baby aspirin. So, I'm doing it. Already started it actually last week. He said there's just that random person that the aspirin seems to help sometimes - even when they don't have a blood clotting disorder. I also asked him about Friday's attempt and he said it's pretty low odds.

[Mommy2apples]

There is a *small* temptation to BD again today - especially seeing that strong positive Wondfo! But what I've come to decide is that *if* we got pregnant off of that one attempt then maybe it really was meant to be, and, I think there'd be a pretty decent shot of it being a girl (1 attempt, abstain, J&D, even cut off, even though I know timing doesn't sway). If we added another attempt tonight then I think I'd be more likely to beat myself up about not "doing enough" (not a long enough time back on the diet, no Clomid, possibly two fertile window attempts). Plus, I told the RE I would not try this cycle, and I've got that big cyst on my right ovary, so I think it's better to just go back to our plan if it didn't happen this time. I'm more tempted now to try next cycle but I'm not sure I can get past the whole having the due date be so close to DS1 thing. You had that too right? Two January birthdays close together? I don't know - I so overthink and analyze things which I know is TERRIBLE for a girl sway!

I talked with my OBGYN today to ask him about the baby aspirin (and update him on all the testing) and he said do the baby aspirin. So, I'm doing it. Already started it actually last week. He said there's just that random person that the aspirin seems to help sometimes - even when they don't have a blood clotting disorder. I also asked him about Friday's attempt and he said it's pretty low odds.

You just never know how things will pan out abc. I was determined more than likely my last baby would be An August baby, but the lord has other plans. My oldest and my youngest will possibly share the same birthday, will know for sure Thursday when they schedule my csection.


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[Pbn3]

Abc yep I have two January bdays only 6 days apart. I'm actually alot less bothered by it than I originally thought I would be [emoji23]

Makes sense not wanting to add an attempt and certainly does seem wiser. So you're doing baby aspirin, and you'll also be doing clomid?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Thanks Mommy - yea, I'm just going to see how things go the next two weeks-ish until AF arrives again (LOL assuming things didn't work out this time!). We may give it a go next cycle. I'm sure I'll change my mind about 300 times between now and AF starting!!! Eeek getting your c-section scheduled!! I'm so excited for this baby to arrive!!!

Pbn - Yup baby aspirin and Clomid. I asked OBGYN too about doing progesterone after O and he said I can if I want since it's not harmful but also unlikely to help as he doesn't think progesterone is my problem. Which I don't either but I have the capsules so I may just use them.

[Mommy2apples]

Thanks ABC! I’m really excited for her to arrive too!
I’m so excited to follow your journey and watch your miracle make their debut! So excited for when that day comes!! You and mummy2boys just sitting back watching, because your happy days are going to approach us! More than excited to see it happen!


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks ABC! I’m really excited for her to arrive too!
I’m so excited to follow your journey and watch your miracle make their debut! So excited for when that day comes!! You and mummy2boys just sitting back watching, because your happy days are going to approach us! More than excited to see it happen!


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Thanks Mommy, you're so sweet!! I hope it will work out for all of us on here! :) :)

[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys when are you testing? I'm convinced your pregnant!!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Throwaway_panther]

TP - I know you aren't temping this cycle but do you have a normal "post-O" temp range, and if so could you take your temp for the next day or two to see if it looks like you have ovulated? As far as the "leftovers", I don't know - I think I told you that on Saturday I had a lot of "EWCM" for most of the day (we DTD the night before) but then since Saturday, I've not had any - it's been alternating between dry, wet, and creamy - and I haven't gotten a positive OPK (digital or wondfo), so I'm wondering if all that "EWCM" was leftover from Friday. Hard to tell sometimes yea? I really wonder if your cycle just may be all screwed up because of the IVF stuff and the hormones. I still think my hormones are screwed up just from an early-ish m/c and D&C - I've had a lot of breakouts as well and the fact that it's CD16 and I haven't had a +OPK yet is totally not normal for me (I normally O by CD15 at the latest). So not saying it's the same as your situation but I just wonder if we're both being screwed up by hormones right now.

HGMama - I agree with TP, I think those cheapies can detect at a lower amount. That's a good sign though - as long as the HCG keeps dropping, however slowly, your body is doing exactly the right thing!

Noemi glad your spotting stopped!! What CD are you now? What's your plan for this cycle? (Are you doing E4D? 1 attempt?)

I was going to do that today, then of course my DD was up every few hours last night so no way did I get consistent sleep... ugh. Maybe I'll try temping tomorrow. I kept taking OPKs -- the digital was negative all day, although the evening WondFo was like the one you freaked out about the other day! I've read a secondary estrogen surge is normal and can affect an OPK, so I'm hoping it's just that (since I've never taken OPKs past the first negative following a positive to know what they even look like at this point in the cycle!).

Didn't get any EWCM beyond that one patch so maybe it was "leftovers"?! Hmm.

And thank you mummy2boys! I Googled a ton and saw it can be normal -- I even looked through my charts and I've occasionally had it too. Lol I'm just so nervous since this cycle already through me off... though I STUDIED my chart (no OPKS or temps) from when we tried for DD, and I actually am pretty sure I conceived her from ovulation on Day 20, too! So maybe this late of an ovulation works for me lol

[Throwaway_panther]

There is a *small* temptation to BD again today - especially seeing that strong positive Wondfo! But what I've come to decide is that *if* we got pregnant off of that one attempt then maybe it really was meant to be, and, I think there'd be a pretty decent shot of it being a girl (1 attempt, abstain, J&D, even cut off, even though I know timing doesn't sway). If we added another attempt tonight then I think I'd be more likely to beat myself up about not "doing enough" (not a long enough time back on the diet, no Clomid, possibly two fertile window attempts). Plus, I told the RE I would not try this cycle, and I've got that big cyst on my right ovary, so I think it's better to just go back to our plan if it didn't happen this time. I'm more tempted now to try next cycle but I'm not sure I can get past the whole having the due date be so close to DS1 thing. You had that too right? Two January birthdays close together? I don't know - I so overthink and analyze things which I know is TERRIBLE for a girl sway!

I talked with my OBGYN today to ask him about the baby aspirin (and update him on all the testing) and he said do the baby aspirin. So, I'm doing it. Already started it actually last week. He said there's just that random person that the aspirin seems to help sometimes - even when they don't have a blood clotting disorder. I also asked him about Friday's attempt and he said it's pretty low odds.

Haha, you sound like me. Even after I'd say, "I'm not doing this again" after losses, it'd get around O time and I would completely change my mind!

I think your best bet is to hold steady. I DO still think it's possible you could get pregnant from this type of attempt -- I've gotten pregnant from O-4 even with my husband's awful sperm. I think us fertile Myrtles have just really conductive CM? But if you do, personally I think it could be a quite healthy sperm if it lasted that long -- and definitely girl timing!

And if not, you'll be able to go to your RE more relaxed! <3

[Mommy2apples]

Thanks Mommy, you're so sweet!! I hope it will work out for all of us on here! :) :)

Cheering every single one of you on this thread on! ❤️


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[Girlswaylondon]

Mummy2boys when are you testing? I'm convinced your pregnant!!

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Pbn was right for me when she said this mummy!

[mummy2boys]

Mummy2boys when are you testing? I'm convinced your pregnant!!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thanks pbn and girlsway! I tested this morning on a cheapie and it was negative but it was only a 25miu one. I've got a better one for when I get home from work! I think I'm only 8dpo though so wouldn't that be too early? I do feel different though..


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[ABC.2606]

Mummy I think 8 dpo on a cheapie is too early. Personally I have never tested positive until 10 dpo and that's with a FRER. But 9 dpo is fairly common too.

I love what your temps are doing!! Exciting!!!!

[mummy2boys]

I've just done another cheapie and there is a very, very faint line. That can't be right can it? I can get it to photograph but it's definitely there [emoji848]Had this too many times to get excited though


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[HGmama]

Thanks pbn and girlsway! I tested this morning on a cheapie and it was negative but it was only a 25miu one. I've got a better one for when I get home from work! I think I'm only 8dpo though so wouldn't that be too early? I do feel different though..


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI waited until 9dpo to even test, but that was a cheapie too. It was negative at when you are supposed to read it, but when i went back hours later there was a squinter, probably evap. Then the next morning it was obviously a faint line and a line on a FRER.

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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys can you get an frer for tomorrow? Or keep the sample you use to test with your cheapie tomorrow morning and if you think you see something get an frer and dip it into the same sample? It's definitely possible it could be a legit line even at 8dpo. Very, very early for pos on a cheapie but not impossible.

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

LOL Pbn I just posted a response to Mummy w/o reading your response and then realized I basically asked the same questions you did!!

Mummy - Eeeek I hope you can do another test soon and post a pic!!!! FX!!!

[mummy2boys]

Thanks ladies, I can't get a frer by tomorrow but have one arriving from Amazon on Thursday. Will test in the am with a cheapie and keep you updated!


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[kittendreams]

Hey girls can I join?
Unintentionally in the tww- not meant to ttc until June but dh did not pull out in time and now I'm having ewcm and cramps so very well might be ovulating shortly.
Sigh
Just had a month off diet and exercise and temping for our holidays after 1 year on it and now this.
Trying to stay positive but after one sway opposite already it's hard.
Fingers crossed you all get your bfps and I maybe get some more time on diet and exercise before mine x

[Pbn3]

Abc great minds and all that [emoji12][emoji23]

Mummy2boys cannot wait for your AM test and yay for frer Thursday!!

Hi and welcome kittendreams! I have seen so many 'oopsies' result in girl that I would be feeling quite hopeful if you do get a bfp. Plus after a year on the diet, I cant imagine one month would make a 'major' difference? Maybe letting go is exactly what you needed [emoji3] And it would be only one attempt right?! So what will your attempt end up being if you are about to o?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[kittendreams]

Thanks pbn��
It will be 3-4 days before o- the attempt was pm on cd 16 and My o date is cd 19-20 so not great odds but I am super fertile so it's possible!
I have no idea what came over dh! It was the last day of our holidays and he'd had a bit to drink I actually had to pull him out sorry tmi!!! We've been using withdrawal method successfully for 12 years! I couldn't believe it. I had even said to him earlier in the day I think I might be ovulating soon due to increased cm.
We had not had sex for ages ( camping with two little boys lol) and he said it had been over a week since he'd released so we had abstain in our favour but also not good either since he is 38.
Trying to be zen but it's so hard!
Today is cd 18 heaps of cramps and ewcm so just waiting to o eek!
Is there anything I can do now to sway girl? I ridiculously started back on diet and exercise yesterday hoping that would help lol!

I'm going to read back over all you lovely ladies posts to catch up where you all are... fx for sticky beans for everyone xx

[ABC.2606]

kittendreams - Welcome! Oh my goodness we have a lot of similarities between us! I've been swaying a year now as well - except with a few "breaks" as over that time I've had 3 pregnancies that ended in early miscarriages. My last one was in early March and I've been back on the diet (although not as strict) for the past 4 weeks or so and DH and I had an "oops" on Friday night (which never happens as we are very careful when not ttc!), and we were not planning on trying until next month or even June so I could be back on the diet longer and get Clomid again. I think I probably O-ed today so our attempt will be O-4 but I too am super fertile and get pregnant very easily. He also had abstained for 7 days (he's almost 35), so all of this has me very nervous too! :) I also have two little boys!

I've become more zen over it in the past day or so though - as I told the ladies on here yesterday if it happens I'm going to believe it was meant to be and if it doesn't, I'll be relieved and we'll go back to our plan :) I really don't think in my case it'll happen this time anyways. But as Pbn said, lots of "oopsies" here have resulted in girls!

You are very welcome here!! I've been on the TTC/TWW wait board since last July - although I don't plan on really leaving it if/when I am pregnant as I love following everyone's TTC journey!!

[gafan]

Thanks pbn��
It will be 3-4 days before o- the attempt was pm on cd 16 and My o date is cd 19-20 so not great odds but I am super fertile so it's possible!
I have no idea what came over dh! It was the last day of our holidays and he'd had a bit to drink I actually had to pull him out sorry tmi!!! We've been using withdrawal method successfully for 12 years! I couldn't believe it. I had even said to him earlier in the day I think I might be ovulating soon due to increased cm.
We had not had sex for ages ( camping with two little boys lol) and he said it had been over a week since he'd released so we had abstain in our favour but also not good either since he is 38.
Trying to be zen but it's so hard!
Today is cd 18 heaps of cramps and ewcm so just waiting to o eek!
Is there anything I can do now to sway girl? I ridiculously started back on diet and exercise yesterday hoping that would help lol!

I'm going to read back over all you lovely ladies posts to catch up where you all are... fx for sticky beans for everyone xxWelcome, kittendreams! I will keep my fingers crossed that your ovulation is delayed this month, although as many people said you still have decent chance of a girl. And spontaneity / not cleaning could be in your favor there. As for Girl Diet after the attempt, I think atomic suggest keeping true to the diet for a week after the attempt because it may help with implantation for a girl. Does anybody else remember details on that? I'm in the week after my attempt and I'm trying to stick to the diet to keep those chances of a girl as high as possible.

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[kittendreams]

Oh wow thank you so much for your responses girls you have no idea how you have made me relax about it all and put it all into perspective.
ABC I'm so sorry about your losses- what a journey you have been on you are so strong I'm crossing everything your sticky bean is around the corner for you xx
And you are right we have so much in common and it really helps to know others are feeling the same emotions.
Gafan thank you I hope it is too but I figure like you said sticking to the diet can only help now.
I'm crossing my fingers you are successful this cycle xx

[mummy2boys]

Ladies I don't believe it, bfn this morning and I've started spotting. I was so sure we'd done it this time [emoji17][emoji17][emoji17]


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[Girlswaylondon]

Mummy could it not be implantation? I didn’t get a positive until 12 or 14dpo it drove me insane!

[mummy2boys]

thanks girlsway but I don't think so, my cervix is open (sorry tmi) and there's red blood. I'm sad [emoji17]Beginning to think this is never going to happen for me.


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[Pbn3]

Gah mummy2boys!! I'm still convinced you're pregnant and refuse to believe otherwise unless you get a bfn on your frer tomorrow. Be sure to save your fmu. Your chart is screaming pregnant to me!!! Just like girlswaylondons was even though she was getting bfns too.... I swear I'll never comment on another chart if I'm wrong [emoji17] I want this sooooo much for you and to have it look so promising only to be a bfn cycle will be heartbreaking [emoji174] have you got any pics saved of the vf line you got on the cheapie? Even if you say you couldn't photograph it?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[mummy2boys]

Thank you pbn, I was as convinced as you were! I honestly expected a nice line this morning. I'm spotting a lot now though so I'm fairly sure it's AF. How depressing! Here's the faint line from yesterday, it's barely noticeable though https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/a80909d735808c3d7543b773e590009b.jpg


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[Pbn3]

Thank you pbn, I was as convinced as you were! I honestly expected a nice line this morning. I'm spotting a lot now though so I'm fairly sure it's AF. How depressing! Here's the faint line from yesterday, it's barely noticeable though https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/a80909d735808c3d7543b773e590009b.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMummy2boys that's a bona-fide line. No question at all!! I can see it easily!!! I'm going to hope like crazy that this is breakthrough bleeding and this is in fact your sticky bean. So bugger it!!!! I'm saying congratulations [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] because that IS a bfp and that line will darken and the bleeding WILL stop [emoji113] I look forward to your darkening tests [emoji173] Hang in there xxoo

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Parying4agirl]

I deffo see a line- heres hoping it gets stronger and the bleeding is not AF

[Throwaway_panther]

I see the line! Hoping for a sticky bean here for you!


Guys, I'm posting this probably throughout the forums, but for anyone that's followed my story: we just found out DH does NOT have a varicocele. He must have misunderstood his initial urologist appointment? Urologist thinks all the sperm issues are from the high heat he occasionally has worked with at work or that and a combination of genetics. So... pretty much no fix beyond the homeopathic stuff I've been doing on him (like icing).

I'm pretty gutted; there's no "fix." Urologist referred us onto an even more specialized urologist, who we can't see until the end of May.

DH also just tore into me. Said he's going to start biking and running again (which first we avoided because of sway reasons, then we did when our RE also recommended against it). Said to go eff myself.

I'm exhausted.

[gafan]

I see the line! Hoping for a sticky bean here for you!


Guys, I'm posting this probably throughout the forums, but for anyone that's followed my story: we just found out DH does NOT have a varicocele. He must have misunderstood his initial urologist appointment? Urologist thinks all the sperm issues are from the high heat he occasionally has worked with at work or that and a combination of genetics. So... pretty much no fix beyond the homeopathic stuff I've been doing on him (like icing).

I'm pretty gutted; there's no "fix." Urologist referred us onto an even more specialized urologist, who we can't see until the end of May.

DH also just tore into me. Said he's going to start biking and running again (which first we avoided because of sway reasons, then we did when our RE also recommended against it). Said to go eff myself.

I'm exhausted.I'm sorry, throwaway. That sounds so hard, and it feels awful to fight about this When supportive teamwork is most needed.

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[gafan]

Thank you pbn, I was as convinced as you were! I honestly expected a nice line this morning. I'm spotting a lot now though so I'm fairly sure it's AF. How depressing! Here's the faint line from yesterday, it's barely noticeable though https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/a80909d735808c3d7543b773e590009b.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMummy I see a line too and I am not usually able to see the really faint ones. I I have hope for you this cycle.

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[Noemi2017]

Mummy i hope it was just implantation spotting, i see your line:pray:

[Mommy2apples]

Throwaway, I’m so sorry that is awful, can they help it out anyway?


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[Pbn3]

I see the line! Hoping for a sticky bean here for you!


Guys, I'm posting this probably throughout the forums, but for anyone that's followed my story: we just found out DH does NOT have a varicocele. He must have misunderstood his initial urologist appointment? Urologist thinks all the sperm issues are from the high heat he occasionally has worked with at work or that and a combination of genetics. So... pretty much no fix beyond the homeopathic stuff I've been doing on him (like icing).

I'm pretty gutted; there's no "fix." Urologist referred us onto an even more specialized urologist, who we can't see until the end of May.

DH also just tore into me. Said he's going to start biking and running again (which first we avoided because of sway reasons, then we did when our RE also recommended against it). Said to go eff myself.

I'm exhausted.

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[Pbn3]

Tp sorry again [emoji173] In regards to dh can you just go along with him for a while? Keep the peace and all that?

[Pbn3]

Gafan your chart is killin me!!! I want to say that it's soooo promising but I have no previous chart for comparison. But I have to say that as of this mornings temp I'm feeling very good about your chances...

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Mummy - There is definitely a line there!! I don't get it!!! Has the spotting continued?!

TP - Wow! I'm so sorry about all you are still having to go through and the frustration of of it all!! I mean it's good news that it's not a varicocole, in that he won't need to have surgery, right? And you said he was reluctant to the idea of having it anyways, yea? But without a clear fix I'm sure that's still really frustrating. And then how he reacted to you today... :( Do you think inside he's feeling guilty about his sperm issues and he's just acting out in anger b/c of it? Can you repeat any of the sperm testing to see if his sperm health has improved? I'm hoping that all you've been doing has helped improve it and you'll fall pregnant with a healthy sperm & egg! Were you able to temp today to see if you ovulated?

Gafan your temps do look really good :) When will you start testing?

Verena are you still around? I think you had another scan scheduled this week?

Well my temps are still ridiculously low so it looks like I may be having a long delay after LH surge again. I pretty much have no CM too which is odd if I haven't ovulated yet. I've had a stressful couple of days - I wonder if that threw things off, or with all the screwed up hormones post-m/c & the big cyst on my right ovary, maybe I wont O at all this cycle? It's very weird. I'm on CD18 and never, ever O that late.

[mummy2boys]

Thanks everyone, I would have said the test was dodgy but I did 4 and they all had the same faint line. Still spotting brown when I wipe and feel crampy like AF. I don't know what's going on. Will test with a frer tomorrow if I haven't started bleeding. Am very fed up!
Sorry to hear that about DH Tp. I have similar issues with my other half and I find the best thing is to let him get his own way for a while and then slowly get what I want when he's feeling happier. That being said, I can't get him to take any sort of vitamins that might help us conceive. And In fact, he is still pretty reluctant to even try. It's frustrating.
ABC, my cycles have been odd since my loss so maybe it's normal to ovulate later? Although I seem to remember that your body is pretty good at getting back to normal after, is that right?
Gafan I can't see your chart, have you got a link?



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[Verena]

Thanks for asking parying4agirl and ABC! I'm still around and following all of your journeys! My nausea hit me like a train last weekend and everything feels sooo exhausting right now, even such ridiculous things like writing messages on my phone. My scan was today and we saw the heartbeat! [emoji2]

ABC I hope everything turns out the best way for you this month!

Parying4agirl how are you? Have you decided on getting a private scan? I'm still too scared to write something in the due date group but I think I'll join soon...

Mummy I'm sorry this is happening again! I still hope and have my fingers crossed for this not being AF and for a bfp tomorrow!

Good luck for all of you ladies that you (who want to get one [emoji6]) will get a bfp this month! [emoji173]️

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[Parying4agirl]

Hey Verena so good to hear from you and that you’re doing well
Awww so good to see the heartbeat,
My nausea has started to kick in since yesterday, constantly feel like theres a lump in throat and been mega tired today!
Im going to see if my midwife will book at early scan when i have my booking in app around 8-12 weeks. Still need to book it! 🙈

[kittendreams]

Mummy I can see the line too! If you are only having brown cm that sounds good- that's old blood right?

[kittendreams]

Throwaway sorry you are still going through all this xx

[mummy2boys]

Aw great news about hearing the heartbeat verena! Hope the tiredness doesn't last too long.
Welcome to the group kitten, everyone is so lovely and supportive here [emoji4]
I'm still spotting brown so will see what tomorrow brings. I'm not hopeful though tbh


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[ABC.2606]

Mummy - Hmmm... Well it doesn't sound like you're out then!! Could def just be implantation spotting or whatever and it sounds really positive that you had 4 tests showing a line!

Verena oh yay for the heartbeat!!!!! That's so exciting!! Sorry about the nausea though :( But looks like things are going great with the pregnancy so far! So happy for you!

Parying - Glad to hear you'll be getting a scan booked soon!

[mummy2boys]

I'm not sure abc because those tests were all yesterday and today's are all bfn.. I'm trying to think positive though but the last few months have made me lose any optimism. It's so disheartening isn't it?


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[ABC.2606]

I'm not sure abc because those tests were all yesterday and today's are all bfn.. I'm trying to think positive though but the last few months have made me lose any optimism. It's so disheartening isn't it?


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Hmmm. Yea I don't get it :( Your temps look so good though! Do you normally get brown spotting before AF? Still going to hold out hope!!! Your FRER comes tomorrow?

[kittendreams]

My fingers are crossed for you mummy2boys xx

[mummy2boys]

It should be but Amazon have just emailed to say it's going to be two days late!! Grrr. I do usually spot before af but it changes every month, sometimes one day before, sometimes even four or five days before. It's usually dark red spotting though, not this brown colour


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[ABC.2606]

It should be but Amazon have just emailed to say it's going to be two days late!! Grrr. I do usually spot before af but it changes every month, sometimes one day before, sometimes even four or five days before. It's usually dark red spotting though, not this brown colour


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Ugh - Boo about amazon!! Hmmm maybe it's not AF spotting then! When I spot before AF it's def red blood too! FX!

[gafan]

Mummy - There is definitely a line there!! I don't get it!!! Has the spotting continued?!

TP - Wow! I'm so sorry about all you are still having to go through and the frustration of of it all!! I mean it's good news that it's not a varicocole, in that he won't need to have surgery, right? And you said he was reluctant to the idea of having it anyways, yea? But without a clear fix I'm sure that's still really frustrating. And then how he reacted to you today... :( Do you think inside he's feeling guilty about his sperm issues and he's just acting out in anger b/c of it? Can you repeat any of the sperm testing to see if his sperm health has improved? I'm hoping that all you've been doing has helped improve it and you'll fall pregnant with a healthy sperm & egg! Were you able to temp today to see if you ovulated?

Gafan your temps do look really good :) When will you start testing?

Verena are you still around? I think you had another scan scheduled this week?

Well my temps are still ridiculously low so it looks like I may be having a long delay after LH surge again. I pretty much have no CM too which is odd if I haven't ovulated yet. I've had a stressful couple of days - I wonder if that threw things off, or with all the screwed up hormones post-m/c & the big cyst on my right ovary, maybe I wont O at all this cycle? It's very weird. I'm on CD18 and never, ever O that late.Not sure when I will test. I want to hold off as long as possible but I'm sure I won't be able to wait until missed period day. I only have wondfo pregnancy tests for now.

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[gafan]

Thanks everyone, I would have said the test was dodgy but I did 4 and they all had the same faint line. Still spotting brown when I wipe and feel crampy like AF. I don't know what's going on. Will test with a frer tomorrow if I haven't started bleeding. Am very fed up!
Sorry to hear that about DH Tp. I have similar issues with my other half and I find the best thing is to let him get his own way for a while and then slowly get what I want when he's feeling happier. That being said, I can't get him to take any sort of vitamins that might help us conceive. And In fact, he is still pretty reluctant to even try. It's frustrating.
ABC, my cycles have been odd since my loss so maybe it's normal to ovulate later? Although I seem to remember that your body is pretty good at getting back to normal after, is that right?
Gafan I can't see your chart, have you got a link?



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[mummy2boys]

Well bfn on a cheapie again this morning but spotting has pretty much stopped. Couldn't temp this morning accurately as been up with little one and a super high temp through the night.


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[Girlswaylondon]

Mummy that line is so easy to see I didn’t even have to zoom like I usually do!

[mummy2boys]

Thanks girlsway. What day did you get your bfp? Did you have any spotting? How are you feeling by the way? x


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[mummy2boys]

Just done another cheapie with smu and there's another faint line https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/e5758271209c1f1fbd13bb5c7a35d295.jpg


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys that's super easy to see! Cant believe your frer is going to be late [emoji22] will you even get it by tomorrow?? Can you get your hands on a different test from a shop?

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[mummy2boys]

Thanks pbn. I've just had another email from Amazon saying they are delivering today after all!


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[Pbn3]

Oh yay!!!!! Hope it's in the next 3 hours so I'm still awake [emoji23] start holding [emoji12]

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[mummy2boys]

Haha will do [emoji106]


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[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn is the chart queen I’m telling you! :p I think you should change your user name to that pbn haha!

[Pbn3]

[emoji23][emoji23] Girlswaylondon, I [emoji173] charts as you know [emoji12]. Pbn3 was 'possible baby number 3' [emoji23] so could do with an updated name hahaha!!

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[mummy2boys]

Don't know if you're still awake pbn but just letting you know bfn on frer [emoji17]


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys that can't be!!!! [emoji22][emoji22] You may need to get rid of those cheapie tests. Your chart still looks good so going to continue to hope that af doesn't arrive. I'm assuming you likely wont test again until then?

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[gafan]

Don't know if you're still awake pbn but just letting you know bfn on frer [emoji17]


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[mummy2boys]

I will probably continue testing like a mad woman lol. Yeah it seems like the cheapies are not great, how annoying! Spotting has completely stopped now too [emoji848]


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[gafan]

Weirdness with my chart today, possibly triphasic but no prior data to compare. It could be a good sign but I will not even begin to believe (and do not want to) until BFP.
When I woke at 645am after some restless sleep (up around 3 to pee) temp was 100.03. I took my blanket off and laid still over the next half hour and tested the following: 99.88 at 7am, 99.52 at 7:08am, 99.2 at 7:15, 99.17 at 7:17. I feel cooler now.
See how obsessive (boy mom) I can be?!

Now it is 98.91 (7:30am) and I will stop retesting. I usually test at 6:45-7:00am.


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[gafan]

I will probably continue testing like a mad woman lol. Yeah it seems like the cheapies are not great, how annoying! Spotting has completely stopped now too [emoji848]


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[mummy2boys]

Haha I do that too! Yep typical boy mum personality [emoji23] No they are one step ones


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[mummy2boys]

Your chart looks great by the way gafan!


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[HGmama]

Waiting to hear from ob office about left over hcg that was drawn yesterday... yesterday evening i started having left sided pain, but a little lower than I usually have, but things could just be a little off. Well todays hpt was pretty dang close to negative... id call it negative if i wasnt looking at it multiple ways. So with that left sided pain, i decided to take an opk as well. What's your thoughts??? There's a chance ill get to dtd tonight and im worried that dtd on a possible O day would sway boy if i happened to be super fertile. I dont know... what is your wisdom ladies?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/ff04a230e0222eabad59b2e7d6e5de5a.jpg

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[Pbn3]

Hgmama I would assume the opk is positive from the hcg rather than lh.... think of the two hormones as twins, an opk can detect hcg but it doesn't work the other way (a hpt doesn't detect lh)

I can see a line still on your hpt but it is getting pretty light now. You wont ovulate while your body still thinks it pregnant, your hcg will need to drop 5 or so before this happens.

If you're wanting to you could always have an attempt regardless so you're covered in the event my assumption is wrong, that way your not left second guessing [emoji3]

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[HGmama]

Hcg Level yesterday was 33. Im surprised that that little amount of hcg can make a opk that positive. So i was told... use protection until you get a negative home pregnancy test, but yesterday's appeared negative too within the timeframe and that was a 33 hcg. I feel like i will NEVER know when im in the clear to start TTC. I wish there was more info about this. And it was clear cut.

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[ABC.2606]

HGmama - I may have told you some of this already (if so sorry!) but when I had a HCG level of 25, I was still getting +HPTs and +OPKs (wondfo brand). 6 days after the blood draw that showed a level of 25, AF started. So I think in my case, the +OPKs were like Pbn said from the HCG hormone.

How far out are you from the D&C? Both my OB and my RE have told me that it's best to wait at least until your first AF returns before trying again. The RE said there is some evidence that getting pregnant again before you've had AF return can raise the risk of miscarriage. I know it's controversial and every doctor may have different views on how long you should wait. It can also cause issues, if you do get pregnant, in trying to date the pregnancy since it wont be a "normal", 28-ish day cycle with a clear CD1, etc.

I was very confused after the D&C about whether after my HCG dropped, if I would ovulate, have my LP, and then have AF start, or if AF would start as soon as the HCG hit zero (or close to it). In my case, I don't think I ovulated before AF started, since 6 days before it started I still had an HCG level of 25 and like Pbn said my body still thought it was pregnant. In my case I think the progesterone plummeted as soon as HCG got close to zero and that brought on AF. But I think each woman is different and it depends on what your body does I guess. I think what doctors will say is that you may ovulate before AF, or you may not, and they can't really predict either way. I actually do think I ovulated about 2 weeks after each of my first two miscarriages started, but those were natural m/cs at 5 weeks with WAY lower hormone levels.

If it were me (and sadly I've been here 3 times now), I would wait until AF starts before trying again. I think it's probably better for your body, it makes dating the pregnancy easier if you do get pregnant right away, etc. And again, it's very possible you wont even ovulate before you get AF. And for me I'm on my first full cycle after AF started and things still seem screwed up hormone-wise. I always ovulate around day 14 or 15 and I'm on day 19 right now and still not sure if I've ovulated, which is crazy weird for me as my cycles are so regular and experience has shown me that things bounce back very quickly for me after m/c's. But I think b/c I was further along this time, hormone levels were higher, and I had a D&C things are still kinda out of wack.

Sorry that's a lot - just again telling you again what my recent experience has been :)

[ABC.2606]

Mummy - Ugh so frustrating!! I hope we at least know for sure which way this is going in the next day or so :(

Gafan wow that temp jump is awesome!!! With my last pregnancy I kinda knew I was pregnant because my temps just keep going up each day for the first week or so after ovulation. Hoping that is the same for you!!!! I wish you were closer to testing time!!

[HGmama]

HGmama - I may have told you some of this already (if so sorry!) but when I had a HCG level of 25, I was still getting +HPTs and +OPKs (wondfo brand). 6 days after the blood draw that showed a level of 25, AF started. So I think in my case, the +OPKs were like Pbn said from the HCG hormone.

How far out are you from the D&C? Both my OB and my RE have told me that it's best to wait at least until your first AF returns before trying again. The RE said there is some evidence that getting pregnant again before you've had AF return can raise the risk of miscarriage. I know it's controversial and every doctor may have different views on how long you should wait. It can also cause issues, if you do get pregnant, in trying to date the pregnancy since it wont be a "normal", 28-ish day cycle with a clear CD1, etc.

I was very confused after the D&C about whether after my HCG dropped, if I would ovulate, have my LP, and then have AF start, or if AF would start as soon as the HCG hit zero (or close to it). In my case, I don't think I ovulated before AF started, since 6 days before it started I still had an HCG level of 25 and like Pbn said my body still thought it was pregnant. In my case I think the progesterone plummeted as soon as HCG got close to zero and that brought on AF. But I think each woman is different and it depends on what your body does I guess. I think what doctors will say is that you may ovulate before AF, or you may not, and they can't really predict either way. I actually do think I ovulated about 2 weeks after each of my first two miscarriages started, but those were natural m/cs at 5 weeks with WAY lower hormone levels.

If it were me (and sadly I've been here 3 times now), I would wait until AF starts before trying again. I think it's probably better for your body, it makes dating the pregnancy easier if you do get pregnant right away, etc. And again, it's very possible you wont even ovulate before you get AF. And for me I'm on my first full cycle after AF started and things still seem screwed up hormone-wise. I always ovulate around day 14 or 15 and I'm on day 19 right now and still not sure if I've ovulated, which is crazy weird for me as my cycles are so regular and experience has shown me that things bounce back very quickly for me after m/c's. But I think b/c I was further along this time, hormone levels were higher, and I had a D&C things are still kinda out of wack.

Sorry that's a lot - just again telling you again what my recent experience has been :)Thank you ABC. Yesterday was 24 days post d&c. I think it's best for me to wait for a AF and have that certainly of tracking. Plus if im going to sway again, i need to start on that like now. DH is allergic to latex and we havent used protection in 8 years (minus bc pills and iud) so we would need to take a trip to the store and that complicates things. I was hoping pull out would be a good enough thought since im probably not ovulating. I do think i must have an cyst or something on that left side. Ive had them in the past. Guess ill just see what DH wants to do.

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[ABC.2606]

Thank you ABC. Yesterday was 24 days post d&c. I think it's best for me to wait for a AF and have that certainly of tracking. Plus if im going to sway again, i need to start on that like now. DH is allergic to latex and we havent used protection in 8 years (minus bc pills and iud) so we would need to take a trip to the store and that complicates things. I was hoping pull out would be a good enough thought since im probably not ovulating. I do think i must have an cyst or something on that left side. Ive had them in the past. Guess ill just see what DH wants to do.

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Will they do an ultrasound on you after AF starts? I have a big cyst on my right ovary that they found last week. I just posted a thread on here the other day and atomic thinks it probably developed as a result of the pregnancy/miscarriage, as that apparently is something that commonly happens.

Geez - it's like you and I have just been on the same path the past couple of months, yea? As I recall we got our BFPs within a few days of each other, had D&Cs after missed miscarriages, have had to deal with these HCG blood draws after the D&Cs and not knowing what the heck is going on and now possibly both having cysts!! Crazy. Here's hoping that we're both going to see happier days ahead soon with BFPs and sticky beans!

[Pbn3]

Hgmama I agree 150% with Abc about waiting until after this cycle of mc and d&c to try again. It is ultimately up to you of course and we will support you either way, we can only give our personal opinions but again it's for you to decide [emoji173]

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[mummy2boys]

Well I'm now on a mission to stop anyone buying and getting hope from one step cheap tests!! I did another ( as I am a crazy obsessive) and look at this for a false positive! It's definitely not right as I put another in the same sample and its completely white! Grrrr. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/3bec8ab2e9475e2d5053c92fe5954ae7.jpg


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[mummy2boys]

Sounds like waiting for AF is the best plan HGmama. Hopefully it won't be too long for you. Pull out has always worked for us as contraception (unfortunately lol)


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[Pbn3]

Well I'm now on a mission to stop anyone buying and getting hope from one step cheap tests!! I did another ( as I am a crazy obsessive) and look at this for a false positive! It's definitely not right as I put another in the same sample and its completely white! Grrrr. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/3bec8ab2e9475e2d5053c92fe5954ae7.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat's terrible mummy2boys [emoji34] have you googled about it? I'm about too as that is soooo wrong [emoji22]

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[ABC.2606]

So odd, Mummy!!! Can you get some Wondfos? I think they are pretty reliable, yea??

[kittendreams]

That's so weird mummy- that looks so positive and your spotting has stopped right? Hope you get an answer soon!

So sorry about your loss HGmama- sending lots of sticky rainbow vibes your way xx

I have finally had a positive opk last night and ovulating today I think so that means I had an 0-4 attempt and so I have the ( very slim) possibility of a bfp....
still hoping to get a few more months of swaying but I'm at peace with whatever happens.


Thinking of all you lovely ladies on here fx for some bfps soon!

[Girlswaylondon]

Mummy that looks even darker than before?? What if you grab a Tesco brand or Superdrug? Are you uk?

Thanks for asking how I’m feeling I’m much better now I’m in my second trimester wow the first was tough!! X

[mummy2boys]

Thanks everyone. Glad you are feeling better girlsway! It seems to have gone really fast, doesn't seem that long ago you got your bfp!
Yeah I'm uk but I've done my last frer this morning and it was completely white so I'm sure I'm out. I can feel AF on the way too. I'm not sure what else I can do, feel like it's just not going to happen.
Kitten, like you say, maybe a small chance with that attempt so you might get more time in your sway. Are you swaying girl?



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[gafan]

That's so weird mummy- that looks so positive and your spotting has stopped right? Hope you get an answer soon!

So sorry about your loss HGmama- sending lots of sticky rainbow vibes your way xx

I have finally had a positive opk last night and ovulating today I think so that means I had an 0-4 attempt and so I have the ( very slim) possibility of a bfp....
still hoping to get a few more months of swaying but I'm at peace with whatever happens.


Thinking of all you lovely ladies on here fx for some bfps soon!Kitten, I am still keeping fingers crossed for you!

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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys I was looking at your chart again and just wanted to point out if that spotting was implantation related then you wouldn't get a faint line until 2-3 days after on a sensitive test like an frer. I know you say you feel af is coming but I want to also remind you that I 100% believed af was coming as I had the exact cramps I always did every cycle without fail, only they started a day or so earlier than usual. I still think you have a good chance...

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[Georgia_Peach]

Well I'm now on a mission to stop anyone buying and getting hope from one step cheap tests!! I did another ( as I am a crazy obsessive) and look at this for a false positive! It's definitely not right as I put another in the same sample and its completely white! Grrrr. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180419/3bec8ab2e9475e2d5053c92fe5954ae7.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI just wanted to chime in here..
With this pregnancy I started testing with both wondfos and first responses at 4dpt / 8dpo. My wondfo at first gave me a slight second line and my frer did too. The next few days I got VERY dark lines on the frers but Bfn on my wondfos. Long story short...
I guess I had a defective box of wondofs bc I was very much pregnant.
They were brand new too!

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[Noemi2017]

Today my opk:39349
We do e4d this month, so we dtd on Wednesday and next we will tomorrow on Saturday:pray:

[Pbn3]

Noemi your attempt due tomorrow will likely be perfect timing [emoji3][emoji322] I will have everything crossed this cycle is your sticky bfp [emoji173] will you make it an AM or PM attempt? From memory your opks dont always get fully pos?? Or you o within 24 hours of pos opk??

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[Girlswaylondon]

Good luck Noemi I’m so excited!

[mummy2boys]

Thanks everyone but AF here now [emoji53]


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[HGmama]

Good luck Noemi I’m so excited!I love when we cheer ladies on for their attempts! Can you imagine if this was a group of guys? Haha

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[Mommy2apples]

So sorry mummy ☹️


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[HGmama]

Thanks everyone but AF here now [emoji53]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkBummer! Sorry mummy. Keep your head up.

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[HGmama]

ABC- yes, it does seem that we have been on the same path and im so thankful that i have found someone to ask these questions to. I dont know anyone else on this path.
Will they do an ultrasound on you after AF starts? I have a big cyst on my right ovary that they found last week. I just posted a thread on here the other day and atomic thinks it probably developed as a result of the pregnancy/miscarriage, as that apparently is something that commonly happens.

Geez - it's like you and I have just been on the same path the past couple of months, yea? As I recall we got our BFPs within a few days of each other, had D&Cs after missed miscarriages, have had to deal with these HCG blood draws after the D&Cs and not knowing what the heck is going on and now possibly both having cysts!! Crazy. Here's hoping that we're both going to see happier days ahead soon with BFPs and sticky beans!ABC- yes, it does seem that we have been on the same path and im so thankful that i have found someone to ask these questions to. I dont know anyone else on this path. Its sucks we are on this path and I'd never wish it on anyone, but glad i found you. People helping you decide on d&c or not, helped me decide d&c immediately.
No mention of any ultrasounds. I've thankfully always had small enough cysts and they go away, just bothersome for several days.
Ive been getting all the bills in from the miscarriage and thankfully i have fairly (but expensive) insurance. So far im totally $25k, but my portion only about $2k. Most of that 2k has come from incentive programs that i earned, but our insurance year starts in july so lots of expenses next pregnancy.
Pbn3 & mummy- thx, waiting, waiting .... hopefully AF will show here in the next couple weeks. DH didnt even want to dtd at all, too tired from work. I was frustrated since its been about a month.
Kitten- thx, so many of us here waiting on rainbows.

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[Noemi2017]

Thx u Pbn, i hope i will get full positive tomorrow, we will do attempt tomorrow pm. This cycle is strange i dont have any ewcm, i feel very dry:(and mostly i feel crampy and now nothing...

[Noemi2017]

Thx u Girlsway, how do u feel? I really pray this is my lucky month:luck::pray:

[Noemi2017]

Sorry to hear so mummy:HH:

[Pbn3]

I'm sorry mummy2boys [emoji17] everything was looking so good too! Big hugs xo All you can do is keep on keeping on [emoji173]

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[Pbn3]

I love when we cheer ladies on for their attempts! Can you imagine if this was a group of guys? Haha

Sent from my SM-G955UIt's hilarious right?!!! I get genuinely excited for everyone come attempt/s time! I once said to skyblue I was so excited when it came time for her attempts to start that I was *mentally* doing a cheerleading number outside her bedroom door [emoji23] was funny at the time but now that I've written that it seems kinda creepy and stalker'ish [emoji102][emoji50][emoji23]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Good luck noemi! Different is good!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[kittendreams]

Good luck Noemi!

Sorry mummy wishing you all the best for next cycle xx

[Girlswaylondon]

I’m good Noemi just got back from Lanzarote was a nice break! :)

Sorry mummy :( xx

[Parying4agirl]

Good luck Noemi.

Mummy2 hope next months a sticky for u x

[gafan]

Thanks everyone but AF here now [emoji53]


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[ABC.2606]

Sorry Mummy :( :( I was really thinking you were going to get a BFP.

Good luck Noemi!

Kitten - yea I'm in the same boat, except I still don't even know if I did actually ovulate. I think the odds are pretty low for both of us!

Gafan - You had a bit of a dip today - Possibly implantation dip? Would def be the right time for that at 7 dpo!

HGMama - Ugh yea I haven't gotten any of our medical bills yet but I know they are coming. With my doctors appointments, D&C, and all this testing they've been doing, it's all going to add up. Thankfully we maxed out our health savings account this year thinking we were probably going to have to be having a baby! Instead we'll be using that to pay for miscarriage and recurrent pregnancy loss testing :(

I've been pretty depressed the past few days. Struggling a lot on the diet - I'm just so over ALL of this - swaying, TTC-ing, BFPs, losing babies. I think multiple times a day about just giving it all up. I'm just so freaking tired (physically and mentally). I don't know.

[kittendreams]

Oh ABC I don't blame you for feeling that way you have been through so much surely all that heartache is leading you to your beautiful rainbow baby xxx

[kittendreams]

And yes I think my chances are slim too which I'm grateful for because not only do I want some more time on diet but I just cannot have another December/ Christmas baby! I already have two lol!

[emshe]

Checking in ladies!

Mummy I’m so sorry, what a shame. I wish this were not so.

Noemi wishing you all the luck in the world! Go catch that egg

ABC thinking of you. Try to sneak in some extra sleep & time for you. It’s really helped me a lot the last few days.

Everyone enjoy your weekends.

Pbn that is hilarious. I would be picturing you outside the door [emoji6] Pom poms in hand


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[mummy2boys]

ABC I feel exactly the same. I'm so fed up of it all. I feel in limbo too because I need an operation due to having a mild prolapse but can't have it till I've finished babies so I'm putting it off and that makes me miserable too as I can't run, jump etc without feeling very uncomfortable. It's rubbish. I'm not ready to stop trying yet but it feels like it's not going to happen. I want to be able to relax about it all, stop temping/opks/ supplements etc and just chill out but my obsessiveness won't let me!
Is it worth you having a bit of a break? Coming off the diet and giving yourself a bit of time? You've had such a tough few months. I'd do this but my age doesn't give me that option, feel like if it doesn't happen soon then it's not going to.


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[Pbn3]

Emshe it's so good to hear from you! I was already missing you [emoji173] please come back if you change your mind about trying this cycle, even if its a ntnp one! I see you're still temping (I will not delete your chart link just yet for stalking purposes [emoji6]) so I'm crossing everything that maybe you'll just kick back, bd every few days and just see what happens (temping still of course [emoji12])

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Kittendreams do you temp? A 4-o is pretty darn low odds but if you and dh are pretty fertile then there still is a chance! I see you'd rather have a bit longer swaying first though so I'm torn between hoping the oopsie results in a bfp (they often result in desired gender) and a bfn so you feel good about feeling you gave your best. At the end of the day, what will be will be and it will be meant to be [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Abc and mummy2boys I want to comment on your situations (feeling wise) but don't want to do it on the fly as such... so I'm going to mull over it abit and come back soon. So much love to you both [emoji173][emoji173][emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Emshe it's so good to hear from you! I was already missing you [emoji173] please come back if you change your mind about trying this cycle, even if its a ntnp one! I see you're still temping (I will not delete your chart link just yet for stalking purposes [emoji6]) so I'm crossing everything that maybe you'll just kick back, bd every few days and just see what happens (temping still of course [emoji12])

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thanks pbn, I miss this too as much as I try to stay away, & you must have read my mind, I’ve been mulling over the idea of ntnp.

I’ll be temping, but I’m kinda enjoying a break, didn’t take clomid either. I’ll be actively back in June probably if you’re sticking around!?

Must admit I’ve been very much in the same headspace as ABC & mummy.
Life is passing by so quickly, & it’s so appealing to just LIVE but then I read something along the lines of “never give up on something you can’t go a day without dreaming about”
TORN.

Thinking of you all...




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[Pbn3]

Gosh emshe, those are such strong words...

So I just want to say to yourself, mummy, Abc and even noemi that I really do understand the conflicting feelings. It's terribly draining both mentally and physically. I twice got to a point that I felt ok moving on with life. The first time, I got pregnant the cycle I said I was not trying anymore following it (and by this time I'd been just ttc and not swaying for 4/5 months or so and one loss) I ended up losing that pregnancy too and it was by far my worst loss and the one that resulted in my depression pretty much exploding. However it bought back all those feelings I'd thought I had moved on from and if anything the desire be pregnant again was stronger than it had ever been. But I did say to myself it would be 3 strikes and you're out, I would accept it wasn't going to happen if I lost a 3rd pregnancy. And then I did. And then I still couldn't kick that itch.... So I gave myself, and promised my husband, just 3 more cycles trying and I would 100% accept it wasn't to be. For me there HAD to be an end in sight and I honestly believe I'd come to that point, finally!! So we didn't get pregnant during those 3 cycles (again I'm talking about ttc only so very, very conception friendly attempts) and by that 3rd cycle I found I had already mentally moved on. I felt a distinct shift in my mental health on the matter. I was excited about being just a family of 4, excited at the thought of returning to work casual hours, excited to be in a head space that didn't involve ttc. I literally felt lighter and more free than I had in the last couple years. I had zero regret throwing out my thermometer, giving away my last clomid cycle, uninstalling ff etc etc. It's so hard to describe the relief at getting af that last cycle trying and knowing that I was no longer beholden to it. I felt almost euphoric! I began feeling so much more closer to my boys in the days after, not that I'd neglected them during my journey, but I felt I'd wasted so much brain thought and emotion time on it that could've gone to them??? I think you'll understand what I mean... anyway I honestly believe you will get to THAT point when you can accept it's time to move on but it's different for everyone. Try and not put an exact time limit on it. I did but I'd done it then shifted it more than once [emoji23] Try and be a little flexible? Just accept that when you're ready to give up you will know you are! Trust me, there will be no doubts, you will feel it and be 100% sure and if there's any doubt then you're not [emoji173] I honestly believe there is something to NTNP, big time, especially when you're experiencing unexplained infertility or multiple losses. So even if you want to give up actively ttc, maybe give yourself the flexibility of NTNP. I feel so strongly about this because I want soooo much for you ladies to experience your rainbow babies. I would go through my journey all over again if it meant you all could. I sometimes feel guilty about hanging around because I'm so bloody freaking unbelievably happy I had an oopsie I never even considered an oopsie that resulted in my rainbow baby and I thank the universe for her every day [emoji22]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Noemi2017]

Great u enjoyed holiday:flowerz:

[Noemi2017]

Thx u all girls here for wish me good luck with attempt today. My opk today:39357

[emshe]

Gosh emshe, those are such strong words...

So I just want to say to yourself, mummy, Abc and even noemi that I really do understand the conflicting feelings. It's terribly draining both mentally and physically. I twice got to a point that I felt ok moving on with life. The first time, I got pregnant the cycle I said I was not trying anymore following it (and by this time I'd been just ttc and not swaying for 4/5 months or so and one loss) I ended up losing that pregnancy too and it was by far my worst loss and the one that resulted in my depression pretty much exploding. However it bought back all those feelings I'd thought I had moved on from and if anything the desire be pregnant again was stronger than it had ever been. But I did say to myself it would be 3 strikes and you're out, I would accept it wasn't going to happen if I lost a 3rd pregnancy. And then I did. And then I still couldn't kick that itch.... So I gave myself, and promised my husband, just 3 more cycles trying and I would 100% accept it wasn't to be. For me there HAD to be an end in sight and I honestly believe I'd come to that point, finally!! So we didn't get pregnant during those 3 cycles (again I'm talking about ttc only so very, very conception friendly attempts) and by that 3rd cycle I found I had already mentally moved on. I felt a distinct shift in my mental health on the matter. I was excited about being just a family of 4, excited at the thought of returning to work casual hours, excited to be in a head space that didn't involve ttc. I literally felt lighter and more free than I had in the last couple years. I had zero regret throwing out my thermometer, giving away my last clomid cycle, uninstalling ff etc etc. It's so hard to describe the relief at getting af that last cycle trying and knowing that I was no longer beholden to it. I felt almost euphoric! I began feeling so much more closer to my boys in the days after, not that I'd neglected them during my journey, but I felt I'd wasted so much brain thought and emotion time on it that could've gone to them??? I think you'll understand what I mean... anyway I honestly believe you will get to THAT point when you can accept it's time to move on but it's different for everyone. Try and not put an exact time limit on it. I did but I'd done it then shifted it more than once [emoji23] Try and be a little flexible? Just accept that when you're ready to give up you will know you are! Trust me, there will be no doubts, you will feel it and be 100% sure and if there's any doubt then you're not [emoji173] I honestly believe there is something to NTNP, big time, especially when you're experiencing unexplained infertility or multiple losses. So even if you want to give up actively ttc, maybe give yourself the flexibility of NTNP. I feel so strongly about this because I want soooo much for you ladies to experience your rainbow babies. I would go through my journey all over again if it meant you all could. I sometimes feel guilty about hanging around because I'm so bloody freaking unbelievably happy I had an oopsie I never even considered an oopsie that resulted in my rainbow baby and I thank the universe for her every day [emoji22]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Much love & appreciation to you Pbn. I am so happy you got your girl, your dream after going through so much, truly deserved happiness.

I get it & I kind of feel I’m nearly there.
It’s the routine of it that keeps me going in someways as well as the dream. I often ask what do I do if I’m not doing this!?

Little things I’ve been doing the last couple of days/weeks have made me go huh that’s cool-
*lightening up a bit on diet & managing it within limits to alleviate guilt. icecream one night, but shocked last night to fit s’mores on the fire (camping style in the backyard) as well as some cheese twisties all in. massive thanks to US ladies for the amazing concept of s’mores. Wow!

*chasing sunrises & generally noticing beauty in nature

*cuddling our puppies- gees they’re ratbags but they are fine cute & funny little things

*getting my boys to tag along on my exercise. They ride I walk, it’s good seeing them hit the pavement too

Don’t know whether it will help anyone but I’m trying to find simple things to distract me & make the days brighter, I hope you all can too


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[gafan]

Sorry Mummy :( :( I was really thinking you were going to get a BFP.

Good luck Noemi!

Kitten - yea I'm in the same boat, except I still don't even know if I did actually ovulate. I think the odds are pretty low for both of us!

Gafan - You had a bit of a dip today - Possibly implantation dip? Would def be the right time for that at 7 dpo!

HGMama - Ugh yea I haven't gotten any of our medical bills yet but I know they are coming. With my doctors appointments, D&C, and all this testing they've been doing, it's all going to add up. Thankfully we maxed out our health savings account this year thinking we were probably going to have to be having a baby! Instead we'll be using that to pay for miscarriage and recurrent pregnancy loss testing :(

I've been pretty depressed the past few days. Struggling a lot on the diet - I'm just so over ALL of this - swaying, TTC-ing, BFPs, losing babies. I think multiple times a day about just giving it all up. I'm just so freaking tired (physically and mentally). I don't know.ABC, it makes sense to me that you feel that way. You have been through a lot! A nap and some treats might help you feel a bit better. Hugs.

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[gafan]

ABC I feel exactly the same. I'm so fed up of it all. I feel in limbo too because I need an operation due to having a mild prolapse but can't have it till I've finished babies so I'm putting it off and that makes me miserable too as I can't run, jump etc without feeling very uncomfortable. It's rubbish. I'm not ready to stop trying yet but it feels like it's not going to happen. I want to be able to relax about it all, stop temping/opks/ supplements etc and just chill out but my obsessiveness won't let me!
Is it worth you having a bit of a break? Coming off the diet and giving yourself a bit of time? You've had such a tough few months. I'd do this but my age doesn't give me that option, feel like if it doesn't happen soon then it's not going to.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkMummy2, what a complicated and frustrating situation! I am sorry to hear you can't run or jump without pain. It sounds like you have been swaying diligently for a long time and feel so much pressure. I wonder if a few extra treats might help you too? I understand feeling the time crunch (I feel that too) and the obsessive part... that makes it difficult to take a full break. I wonder if a few extra treats (food, movie, massage, whatever you like) might help shift away from obsessive a little and help that way?

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[gafan]

This week I had a stressful dream that I woke up at noon and it was too late to temp. Lol!

Think I should wait until Tuesday to test with wondfo pregnancy tests?


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[Pbn3]

Gafan if you have quite a few tests then I'd probably start monday [emoji12]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

This week I had a stressful dream that I woke up at noon and it was too late to temp. Lol!

Think I should wait until Tuesday to test with wondfo pregnancy tests?


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Hope Tuesday brings you a big fat positive gafan


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[ABC.2606]

Thanks ladies. I think the biggest issue right now is I'm physically very drained. I've been really tired again the past couple of days - yesterday I could barely function. I'm also a lot hungrier lately so trying to keep to the diet (and not snack) is making me miserable, and I'm not sticking to it as well as I was. And because I'm so tired, exercise is hard. I think just being so physically run down right now is affecting my mental state as far as swaying/TTC. So by the end of each day I feel pretty depressed. Kinda feel like I'm getting further and further away from the dream of a daughter instead of closer to it.

Pbn I've thought a lot about your story over the past month or so and how you had really found peace and were content to stop TTC. I don't feel like I'm at that point yet, but the fed up side up me keeps finding all these logical arguments why it would be better for me and my family if we did stop. But like emshe said I've dreamt of a daughter for so long and worked SO hard the past year, it feels almost impossible to just give that all up. I don't know. DH still really wants a 3rd too, which I know, in reading a lot of the situations of ladies on here, I'm really lucky in that he isn't pressuring me to stop and that he's still enthusiastic about having another. He really wants a daughter too, although he'd be less disappointed than me if we had another boy.

Pbn - I know we're all SO thankful for you and that you stick around to support and cheer us on!!! Your story is one that still gives me hope. I hope we can all have such happy endings to this crazy TTC journey.

Had a big temp jump today so looks like I ovulated. FF says I ovulated on Wednesday - which would make my attempt 5-O. So probably SUPER low odds right? Does anyone know if going to bed with damp/wet hair can mess with BBT? I did that most days last week and I'm wondering if that's why my temps were low, especially on Thursday and Friday when I should have had post-ovulation temps. But given how very low they were on Tuesday and Wednesday I'm guessing FF is probably right about O day being on Wednesday.

Emshe - Smores are amazing :) I refuse to go camping unless it involves smores!!! :) :)

Mummy - I think we talked about this before but I have prolapse too :( Mine doesn't really affect my physical activity but it does often bother me. Are you going to try again this cycle?

Gafan FX for a BFP!!!

Kitten - Yea you must be pretty busy around the holidays with Christmas and two birthdays!! Going to be sort of an interesting next week for both of us seeing if we somehow ended up beating the low odds LOL!

[kittendreams]

Kittendreams do you temp? A 4-o is pretty darn low odds but if you and dh are pretty fertile then there still is a chance! I see you'd rather have a bit longer swaying first though so I'm torn between hoping the oopsie results in a bfp (they often result in desired gender) and a bfn so you feel good about feeling you gave your best. At the end of the day, what will be will be and it will be meant to be [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Oh thank you Pbn I know what you mean- I secretly would love an oopsie (especially if it was my dg) to take the pressure off but I really do not want another Christmas/December/holiday baby ( I have two already lol) and I have clomid to use for swaying ( which I obviously didn't uses this month as this was unplanned) so I really want to wait 1-2 more months to get the best sway in possible.

I'm torn too! I do really want to be pregnant so whatever will be will be and that's a nice way to feel I think xx

Yes I do temp and use ff so I'll have to work out how to link it here.

How is your beautiful family?

[kittendreams]

ABC I'm thinking of you and sending lots of positive vibes your way- I get the feeling of not being ready to let go... I haven't been ttc but I have been swaying in some form for nearly 3 years ( since my ds1 was born) and had an opposite in that time (ds2) which has at times really affected my mental and physical state and made me question why am I doing all of this? But my Dh is on board like yours and he keeps me going when I want to throw it all in.

I really pray we all get our dg and peace so we can live our lives free from this burden of feeling like something is missing xx

[emshe]

ABC I'm thinking of you and sending lots of positive vibes your way- I get the feeling of not being ready to let go... I haven't been ttc but I have been swaying in some form for nearly 3 years ( since my ds1 was born) and had an opposite in that time (ds2) which has at times really affected my mental and physical state and made me question why am I doing all of this? But my Dh is on board like yours and he keeps me going when I want to throw it all in.

I really pray we all get our dg and peace so we can live our lives free from this burden of feeling like something is missing xx

[emoji1374] we can all fill the missing link kitten, wishing you pink dust


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[Pbn3]

Ladies I'll be MIA today as visiting with family but will catch up tonight [emoji173] hope you're all having a fab day/night!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Kittendreams to post a link to your chart go into your ff app, press the dropdown menu and select share chart and data, create/preview homepage. Press on the web link and ff will open in your phone browser. Copy the web address in web bar and paste into a comment in here. If you're using Tapatalk you can copy it into your signature [emoji4]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Hope you had a lovely day with the family Pbn, bet they were all smitten with your beautiful girl


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[kikurose]

Oh my goodness! I've missed so much. Sorry I was absent we were traveling, then had nine people visiting, and then we are gearing up to move 4,000 miles NEXT WEEK so it's been really really really really really busy! I am so encouraged by all these BFPs!!!! I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS!!!!!

I'm 6 dpo. So I'm trying to hold out until at least Friday. This cycle we threw timing out the window and just went with it. With all the other stress I couldn't hang with the stress of swaying and timing and all that. I just couldn't, so we just went with it. I'm still doing the diet and exercise, but ignored timing. We just want a healthy babe more than anything- a girl would be a bonus;)

Can't wait to hear about others about to test!

Here is my chart, for you pbn, I know you love a chart ;)
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6dbc88

[gafan]

Oh my goodness- a 4000 mile move must be super complicated to organize! I hope all goes smoothly.
I'm going to start testing tomorrow or Tuesday. We'll see. I've been feeling PMS a bit so I'm not sure what will happen. (Or it could be parenting a 3.5 year old some days gives me PMS symptoms!)
I'll be checking to see your Friday results- good luck! The 2ww feels so long.

[kikurose]

Oh my goodness- a 4000 mile move must be super complicated to organize! I hope all goes smoothly.
I'm going to start testing tomorrow or Tuesday. We'll see. I've been feeling PMS a bit so I'm not sure what will happen. (Or it could be parenting a 3.5 year old some days gives me PMS symptoms!)
I'll be checking to see your Friday results- good luck! The 2ww feels so long.

It feels so long! My cycle has FLOWN by but now that I'm in the last week of it or so it's going so slowly. Fingers crossed for you!!!!

And yes, the move is SO complicated. So many logistics, especially with two young kids in the mix. Ay ay ay.

[Pbn3]

Thank you emshe! We had a lovely day. We go up to see dh's nan (the kids greatnan) fairly often. The boys adore her [emoji173]

Thank you for the chart link kikurose! Although with those attempts I don't think I'll need it much longer [emoji6] What dpo are you testing?! Good luck with your move! What an undertaking [emoji50]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Oh my goodness! I've missed so much. Sorry I was absent we were traveling, then had nine people visiting, and then we are gearing up to move 4,000 miles NEXT WEEK so it's been really really really really really busy! I am so encouraged by all these BFPs!!!! I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS!!!!!

I'm 6 dpo. So I'm trying to hold out until at least Friday. This cycle we threw timing out the window and just went with it. With all the other stress I couldn't hang with the stress of swaying and timing and all that. I just couldn't, so we just went with it. I'm still doing the diet and exercise, but ignored timing. We just want a healthy babe more than anything- a girl would be a bonus;)

Can't wait to hear about others about to test!

Here is my chart, for you pbn, I know you love a chart ;)
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6dbc88

My goodness you are a busy girl! Good luck with the move & a bfp, attempts look fabulous for conception, will be hoping for you


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[emshe]

Thank you emshe! We had a lovely day. We go up to see dh's nan (the kids greatnan) fairly often. The boys adore her [emoji173]

Thank you for the chart link kikurose! Although with those attempts I don't think I'll need it much longer [emoji6] What dpo are you testing?! Good luck with your move! What an undertaking [emoji50]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Wow, so nice pbn, love that they have great nan in their lives, must be really special. Glad you enjoyed it


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[Pbn3]

How are you emshe?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[kikurose]

Thank you emshe! We had a lovely day. We go up to see dh's nan (the kids greatnan) fairly often. The boys adore her [emoji173]

Thank you for the chart link kikurose! Although with those attempts I don't think I'll need it much longer [emoji6] What dpo are you testing?! Good luck with your move! What an undertaking [emoji50]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Thank you!! I was going to TRY to hold out until 11 dpo hehe

[emshe]

How are you emshe?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

I’m good pbn, so very tempted to just throw in an attempt at some point without thought!!!! No clomid this cycle though [emoji848]


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[Pbn3]

I’m good pbn, so very tempted to just throw in an attempt at some point without thought!!!! No clomid this cycle though [emoji848]


https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/35220bClomid will still be in your system from last cycle... I think that sounds a great plan to bd whenever the moment takes you [emoji3] I wouldn't even think of it as an attempt if you can help it [emoji6]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Thank you!! I was going to TRY to hold out until 11 dpo heheOooh so you may start at 9dpo then... [emoji23]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Clomid will still be in your system from last cycle... I think that sounds a great plan to bd whenever the moment takes you [emoji3] I wouldn't even think of it as an attempt if you can help it [emoji6]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Maybe if I chant constantly “must not think” I won’t be able to think about it [emoji6]


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[gafan]

Clearly negative wondfo test today. Will see tomorrow...
Today's temp is an hour early due to waking having to pee at 6. I slept another hour and it went up to 98.65.
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[Noemi2017]

Good luck gafan:fingers::luck:

[Throwaway_panther]

39365
Well here's 11DPO.

The following were FMU and SMU on 10DPO.
39366
39367
39368
39369

I could be 10DPO today since I didn't temp to confirm O,making yesterday's 9DPO. But AF is due tomorrow or Wednesday. I threw in baby aspirin and prednisone, torn on progesterone. But shouldn't the test have gotten darker? :/

I wish I could just be happy and hopeful at positive tests...

[Girlswaylondon]

TP mine didnt darken for a good week! :)

[Pbn3]

Tp I can see that line on the original frer photo easily and on the wondfos too. I want to say congratulations but totally understand your apprehension. I do want to say that comparing tests one morning to the next this early is not a good idea. Do you think you can hold out for 2 days? By then you should see a good progression. So many fx'ed!!!

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[emshe]

TP my goodness those look good! Will watch along as they progress and hope hope hope!

Let’s see what happens over the next few days gafan I am keeping everything crossed


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[Pbn3]

Still time for a bfp Gafan! When is af due?

Noemi hope to see a rise in temp into post o range tomorrow! Will give you a 2-o attempt which is fantastic! I'd definately still dtd one more time tomorrow before you stop e4d.

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[gafan]

Still time for a bfp Gafan! When is af due?

Noemi hope to see a rise in temp into post o range tomorrow! Will give you a 2-o attempt which is fantastic! I'd definately still dtd one more time tomorrow before you stop e4d.

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]Maybe tomorrow or certainly in the next few days. I think I am 10 DPO today. I am curious about tomorrow's test. Today I had some challenges with finding the right words and that reminded me of pregnancy brain (Not that my mind ever fully returned to pre-motherhood sharpness!). I don't feel pregnant though. We shall see...

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[Girlswaylondon]

Definitely have another attempt Noemi :) I carried on e4d after I ovulated for a while just incase!

[Throwaway_panther]

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[Girlswaylondon]

Yay huge Congrats TP!!! :D

[Noemi2017]

Congrats:celebrate::LotsofLove:

[Throwaway_panther]

Thank you all. Definitely still cautious but I haven't had such a steady progression or had a positive digital in awhile! Come on sticky blue!

[Noemi2017]

Pbn i think i already ovulated cd17 on Saturday and we dtd that day. So i should be 3dpo. But we will add another attempt:)

[ABC.2606]

Wow TP that looks great!! Good progression, and getting a positive digital already seems like a good sign! Will you try a FRER? Are you going to go for betas?

[Throwaway_panther]

Wow TP that looks great!! Good progression, and getting a positive digital already seems like a good sign! Will you try a FRER? Are you going to go for betas?

That was my last FRER the other day, so I'd have to buy more. Although that one dried really apparently positive so I might just stick with the cheapies to keep myself from freaking out!

I was really inspired by a blog post from someone with RPL where she said she'd stopped doing betas because of the stress and I think I want to do that. The betas stress me out SO much. Between the phlebotomist comments to the anxious wait for the phone calls, I want to just not haha. I think if all goes well by the end of the week I'll call to hopefully get a scan at 6 weeks :X

[ABC.2606]

That was my last FRER the other day, so I'd have to buy more. Although that one dried really apparently positive so I might just stick with the cheapies to keep myself from freaking out!

I was really inspired by a blog post from someone with RPL where she said she'd stopped doing betas because of the stress and I think I want to do that. The betas stress me out SO much. Between the phlebotomist comments to the anxious wait for the phone calls, I want to just not haha. I think if all goes well by the end of the week I'll call to hopefully get a scan at 6 weeks :X

Yea that makes sense. FX that the cheapies keep darkening!!

[Mommy2apples]

Aww yay tp!! [emoji4]


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[Mommy2apples]

I don’t blame you tp, they weren’t positive at all with me with Emmalyn, because my numbers were so low. Those betas are stressful.


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[gafan]

Thank you all. Definitely still cautious but I haven't had such a steady progression or had a positive digital in awhile! Come on sticky blue!Hooray tp! Sending blue dust!

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[Georgia_Peach]

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:nails::fx::bluesperm:Congrats girl!! I just know this is your rainbow boy!!!! [emoji304][emoji170]

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[Throwaway_panther]

Congrats girl!! I just know this is your rainbow boy!!!! [emoji304][emoji170]

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You're going to make me cry, haha!! I am hoping so much so too!!

[kikurose]

THROWAWAY PANTHER!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhh!!!!!!!!! Such a wonderful post to wake up to!!!!!!!! Congratulations!!!

[hannahptrussell]

Congratulations on these positives showing up! So awesome.
Mummy, I was a basket case reading your updates since I took a break for a while after our chemical. I am cheering you on so much!!! I’m in the time crunch of my life too! My husband actually agreed to give it one more shot after our disappointment last month. So I’m staying positive, but oh how I feel the time crunch.
So I’m thinking the body is gearing up to O in the next few days. We threw swaying out the window and added in some supplements to help that egg quality and lining. Well, hopefully. Carefully watching those OPKs this month so we can SMEP since that seemed to work for us last month.
My only issue is temping this month. I use the Ava but my Ava is acting funny. I wear her for 7+ hours but she’s only picking up 1-3 hours of a sleep pattern. So either I’m sleeping horribly or she’s not working optimally. Ugh. So trying to decide if I should add in bbt with a thermometer or if it’s just too much. Maybe just relaxing and not even paying attention after that OPK would be the smartest. This is a non-clomid cycle after doing clomid for 2 months.


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[kittendreams]

Yay TP that is wonderful!!!


Gafan I've got everything crossed you get a positive today!

[gafan]

Yay TP that is wonderful!!!


Gafan I've got everything crossed you get a positive today!Neg test this morning. I think 11 days past O.

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[kittendreams]

Neg test this morning. I think 11 days past O.

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Fx for you xx
I had neg at 12dpo with ds1 then positive at 14dpo so you never know xx

[kittendreams]

I think I'm 4-5 dpo today.
according to ff I had an attempt at 0-5? days so really slim chance but a possibility nonetheless! lots of twinges and cramps off and on and lots of creamy cm- I hate the tww!

ABC how are you going how many dpo are you now?

[Pbn3]

Tp woohoo!!!! [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] what a beautiful sight! Congratulations! Cant wait for your scan!

Hannahptrussell it's wonderful to see you back! So glad you're giving it another shot this cycle!!! I would honestly just do smep using opks and ditch temping all together. Just add an extra couple eod attempts in after the last smep one. So for example if you got a pos opk cd14 you'd bd cd14, 15, 16 and 18. So I'd also do cd20 and 22? Or even cd21 and cd24 after doing all those bds around pos opk [emoji23] You'll have a good idea if you've oed or not I'm sure. I'm so excited for you!

Gafan boo for bfn [emoji17] How many cycles have you been trying? Might be time to switch to e4d?

Kittendreams did you see my post about how to share your chart link? I'd love to have a look [emoji102]

Abc how are you going? What dpo are we thinking you are?

Kikurose your chart looks pretty good [emoji3] cant wait to see tomorrows temp! Are you testing from tomorrow or waiting till 11dpo still?

Noemi going by temps (so far anyway) I'd put o day as cd19? This may change as more temps are entered. I do agree cd17 is a possibility and you may have had a fallback rise on cd19 but again a few more temps will hopefully provide a better picture [emoji4] How are you feeling?



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

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:nails::fx::bluesperm:

TP!!!!!! Fantastic, congratulations & so much blue dust. Cheering!


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[emshe]

Neg test this morning. I think 11 days past O.

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Shame. It’s still early though so I’ll keep my 🤞🏻


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[emshe]

Congratulations on these positives showing up! So awesome.
Mummy, I was a basket case reading your updates since I took a break for a while after our chemical. I am cheering you on so much!!! I’m in the time crunch of my life too! My husband actually agreed to give it one more shot after our disappointment last month. So I’m staying positive, but oh how I feel the time crunch.
So I’m thinking the body is gearing up to O in the next few days. We threw swaying out the window and added in some supplements to help that egg quality and lining. Well, hopefully. Carefully watching those OPKs this month so we can SMEP since that seemed to work for us last month.
My only issue is temping this month. I use the Ava but my Ava is acting funny. I wear her for 7+ hours but she’s only picking up 1-3 hours of a sleep pattern. So either I’m sleeping horribly or she’s not working optimally. Ugh. So trying to decide if I should add in bbt with a thermometer or if it’s just too much. Maybe just relaxing and not even paying attention after that OPK would be the smartest. This is a non-clomid cycle after doing clomid for 2 months.


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Sending you so much luck Hannahptrussell. Hope you catch that egg!!!!


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[kikurose]

PBN- Thanks for checking!! I'm not feeling very hopeful at all. Lots of weird aching in lower back and also in my lower abdomen on and off- usually like right before a period but I really am not due for a bit- but then again my LP has been a bit hard to pin down. Might just be gas but is making me think AF is on her way early.

I think I'll try to wait until at least Thursday :) honestly not feeling it at all and slightly dreading the negative test. Sounds really dreary, I know lol! But here's hoping!!!

[emshe]

PBN- Thanks for checking!! I'm not feeling very hopeful at all. Lots of weird aching in lower back and also in my lower abdomen on and off- usually like right before a period but I really am not due for a bit- but then again my LP has been a bit hard to pin down. Might just be gas but is making me think AF is on her way early.

I think I'll try to wait until at least Thursday :) honestly not feeling it at all and slightly dreading the negative test. Sounds really dreary, I know lol! But here's hoping!!!

I’ll keep my fingers & toes crossed for you, could be implantation pains? 🤞🏻


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[kikurose]

Thanks emshe! I’m also wondering if it’s just bad gas🤷🏼*♀️ I guess I’ll know soon enough 😂 fingers crossed for you too!!!

[emshe]

Thanks emshe! I’m also wondering if it’s just bad gas🤷🏼*♀️ I guess I’ll know soon enough [emoji23] fingers crossed for you too!!!

He he!


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[Girlswaylondon]

I agree with pbn Noemi looks like cd 19 ovulation? Did you have another attempt just incase? I remeber the cycle I fell pregnant I wasn’t sure whether to attempt again but glad I did :)

[Noemi2017]

Hello Pbn, so FF showed my ovulation was cd17 as i thought. Im feeling fine, im praying every day for a baby, i have big hope for this month:pray::LotsofLove:

[Noemi2017]

Hello Girlsway, yes we had other attempt but this morning. So i really hope FF is right and me too and i ovulated cd17. So i should me 4dpo:awe:when is your other scan?:)

[gafan]

Another neg wondfo test and temp is dropping. AF due yesterday will likely arrive today
This was 3rd attempt so will move to e4d this month or Next. DH will be away for more than a week in early May so that will not help.

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[Noemi2017]

Im sorry gafan, i recommend e4d, im also doing it and i hope it was successful:)

[Girlswaylondon]

Hello Girlsway, yes we had other attempt but this morning. So i really hope FF is right and me too and i ovulated cd17. So i should me 4dpo:awe:when is your other scan?:)

I’m so excited I feel good about this month for you!! My scan is next month! :nails:

[Throwaway_panther]

Another neg wondfo test and temp is dropping. AF due yesterday will likely arrive today
This was 3rd attempt so will move to e4d this month or Next. DH will be away for more than a week in early May so that will not help.

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I'm sorry gafan! Maybe late implantation? On the plus side at least your LP has increased then, which is a good thing

[gafan]

Kiku- are you testing tomorrow?

[ABC.2606]

Sorry Gafan :(

Thanks kitten and Pbn - I'm doing ok... Still having a bit of a rough time emotionally & physically. I think I'm 7 or 8 dpo. My chart is making me VERY nervous... I feel like it looks like a pregnancy chart and similar to my January pregnancy chart. I keep telling myself how unlikely it is, but we'll see. Pbn, what do you think of my chart?

Kitten - I know I absolutely hate the tww!!

TP how are you feeling?

Emshe how are you doing? Are you going on your vacation soon?

Noemi, Kikurose, Hannah - FX for all of you!!

Girlsway excited for your scan! :) I'm thinking it's a girl!

[Throwaway_panther]

Sorry Gafan :(

Thanks kitten and Pbn - I'm doing ok... Still having a bit of a rough time emotionally & physically. I think I'm 7 or 8 dpo. My chart is making me VERY nervous... I feel like it looks like a pregnancy chart and similar to my January pregnancy chart. I keep telling myself how unlikely it is, but we'll see. Pbn, what do you think of my chart?

Kitten - I know I absolutely hate the tww!!

TP how are you feeling?

Emshe how are you doing? Are you going on your vacation soon?

Noemi, Kikurose, Hannah - FX for all of you!!

Girlsway excited for your scan! :) I'm thinking it's a girl!

I keep mixing between anxious and calm, haha. I have cramps, but not constant, and they definitely feel more stretchy, so trying not to panic. All my wondfos are positive any time I take them so MAYBE I'll hold off in testing further? Though I say that now haha

[kikurose]

Kiku- are you testing tomorrow?

Tomorrow I’ll be 10dpo so I might? I’ll see how the mood takes me. I only have FRER and they’re so expensive so I don’t want to waste them haha

I’m so sorry about you’re upcoming AF, Gaian. I feel certain I’m not far behind you. Just not very positive about how I’m feeling and signs or lack there of.

[Noemi2017]

Good luck kikurose:luck::fingers:

[ABC.2606]

I keep mixing between anxious and calm, haha. I have cramps, but not constant, and they definitely feel more stretchy, so trying not to panic. All my wondfos are positive any time I take them so MAYBE I'll hold off in testing further? Though I say that now haha

Ahh I feel such a mix of excitement and nervousness for you! Hoping this is the one!!!

[hannahptrussell]

Need some advice! Here is my OPK then today they are super light. Was this a positive or should I keep testing over the next few days? 39387


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[Parying4agirl]

Id say keep testing

[kikurose]

Id say keep testing

I’d keep testing too. Do you usually have a short or long surge?

[Pbn3]

Hannah have you used these opks before?

What time was this one done? And what time was the lighter one done?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Abc I didn't know you were charting this cycle!!! Please may I have a link? [emoji102]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Noemi just bear in mind that ff may change your crosshairs as more temps are entered. And come testing time you *may* be two days less dpo than you're thinking. How exciting!!! Cant wait for the next week to pass!!!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Abc I didn't know you were charting this cycle!!! Please may I have a link? [emoji102]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6b9cac

I didn't plan to chart this cycle until our little "oopsie"! :) I'm curious in your thoughts about the temps and FF saying I ovulated last Wednesday.

[gafan]

I'd say keep testing too.

[Pbn3]

Abc I'd say ff is spot on this time. Cd20 looks possible too but I'd hate to think you've gone back to oing 3-4 days after pos opk... its a long shot yes but not impossible! Are you going to start testing in a couple days or wait it out?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

I can only see this chart and previous cycle but want to ask what your usual post o temps are above?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Kikurose have you tested??!! If not test tomorrow! Your chart is saying 'pregnant' to me! Fx I'm right [emoji120][emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

I can only see this chart and previous cycle but want to ask what your usual post o temps are above?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

They're always 97.7 and above. With my January bfp cycle they started at 97.7 and climbed to 98.3, getting a little higher each day. I only have 2 non-bfp charts to go off of (versus 3 bfp charts) but my non bfp cycles my temps seem to be a little lower and more erratic. It's how steady they are this time that's odd to me!

But, I did start progesterone vag capsules. So maybe that's raising the temps a little?

[ABC.2606]

Abc I'd say ff is spot on this time. Cd20 looks possible too but I'd hate to think you've gone back to oing 3-4 days after pos opk... its a long shot yes but not impossible! Are you going to start testing in a couple days or wait it out?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

I know I'd hate to think the long delay is back too :( but this is I think my first ovulation post-d&c so maybe things are still screwed up. And no clomid this cycle.

[emshe]

Kikurose have you tested??!! If not test tomorrow! Your chart is saying 'pregnant' to me! Fx I'm right [emoji120][emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Like the sounds of this!!!! 🤞🏻 & toes crossed


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[emshe]

I know I'd hate to think the long delay is back too :( but this is I think my first ovulation post-d&c so maybe things are still screwed up. And no clomid this cycle.

Watching with anticipation! ABC I hope you’re going ok, are you getting plenty of rest & feeling like your catching up at all?


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[emshe]

I keep mixing between anxious and calm, haha. I have cramps, but not constant, and they definitely feel more stretchy, so trying not to panic. All my wondfos are positive any time I take them so MAYBE I'll hold off in testing further? Though I say that now haha

Thinking of you TP


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[emshe]

Sorry Gafan :(

Thanks kitten and Pbn - I'm doing ok... Still having a bit of a rough time emotionally & physically. I think I'm 7 or 8 dpo. My chart is making me VERY nervous... I feel like it looks like a pregnancy chart and similar to my January pregnancy chart. I keep telling myself how unlikely it is, but we'll see. Pbn, what do you think of my chart?

Kitten - I know I absolutely hate the tww!!

TP how are you feeling?

Emshe how are you doing? Are you going on your vacation soon?

Noemi, Kikurose, Hannah - FX for all of you!!

Girlsway excited for your scan! :) I'm thinking it's a girl!

This weekend, I’m already disappointed, just because I know it’s only 2 nights, it will go so quickly how bads that!

Thinking of you lovely, what will be & is meant to be!


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[emshe]

Need some advice! Here is my OPK then today they are super light. Was this a positive or should I keep testing over the next few days? 39387


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Getting close!


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[gafan]

AF tonight so I am officially out for April. I'll keep checking in to see how you all are doing and will be back in May. Thanks for all your help in interpreting tests and Temps. Time for a glass of wine...

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[emshe]

AF tonight so I am officially out for April. I'll keep checking in to see how you all are doing and will be back in May. Thanks for all your help in interpreting tests and Temps. Time for a glass of wine...

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I’m sorry gafan. It always sucks when AF shows up but never more than when your wanting a bfp so much.

Enjoy your glass of wine & an extra or 2


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[Pbn3]

They're always 97.7 and above. With my January bfp cycle they started at 97.7 and climbed to 98.3, getting a little higher each day. I only have 2 non-bfp charts to go off of (versus 3 bfp charts) but my non bfp cycles my temps seem to be a little lower and more erratic. It's how steady they are this time that's odd to me!

But, I did start progesterone vag capsules. So maybe that's raising the temps a little?Hmmm this is going to be a wait and see situation I think... Also keep in mind that your pre and post o temp ranges can change with the season. Mine always ran hotter in summer and cooler in winter with a gradual increase or decrease in the other months..

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Sorry Gafan [emoji17] Hugs and hipe next cycle is kinder to you [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

Hmmm this is going to be a wait and see situation I think... Also keep in mind that your pre and post o temp ranges can change with the season. Mine always ran hotter in summer and cooler in winter with a gradual increase or decrease in the other months..

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Well it snowed here on Saturday, was cool on Sunday, super hot & sunny on Monday, snowed again all day Tuesday and then was super hot again today - so I don't know what I could take from that LOL!!! Our weather is crazy!

But yea... Just gotta wait a few more days I guess. Part of me now wants a BFP just to take away the stress of deciding when to start "real ttc" again! Still haven't made up my mind about next cycle!! :nails:

[Pbn3]

Oh wow! Talk about 4 seasons in one day [emoji23] I'm glad you're so close to finding out either way [emoji173]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[ABC.2606]

AF tonight so I am officially out for April. I'll keep checking in to see how you all are doing and will be back in May. Thanks for all your help in interpreting tests and Temps. Time for a glass of wine...

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Yes, definitely enjoy the wine!! FX for you for May!

[ABC.2606]

Emshe - No I need way more rest :) Hopefully will get some this weekend.

Enjoy your time away!!!! It'll be short but I'm sure it'll be great :) I'm glad that you'll have that time and that you have sort of a plan going forward with ttc! :)

[kikurose]

Kikurose have you tested??!! If not test tomorrow! Your chart is saying 'pregnant' to me! Fx I'm right [emoji120][emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Yes FX you’re right and I’m wrong!!! I’ll test tomorrow morning for you :)

[kikurose]

Hugs gafan. Enjoy the glass of wine. Next month will be your month!!

[Pbn3]

Yes FX you’re right and I’m wrong!!! I’ll test tomorrow morning for you :)Eeeeeek!!! So excited! When is morning for you?!! I need a number to countdown [emoji12][emoji794][emoji102][emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

Emshe - No I need way more rest :) Hopefully will get some this weekend.

Enjoy your time away!!!! It'll be short but I'm sure it'll be great :) I'm glad that you'll have that time and that you have sort of a plan going forward with ttc! :)

I love your sentiment about hoping it’s a bfp so decision time is out of your hands!


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[kikurose]

Eeeeeek!!! So excited! When is morning for you?!! I need a number to countdown [emoji12][emoji794][emoji102][emoji120]

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Haha sorry I'm way behind in timezones!!! BFN this morning. I woke up to pee at 2:45 am and then had to pee again around 6am. It was concentrated but not high volume, doubt that makes a difference though :(

Also my temp went up this morning but I was very restless throughout the night so I think that may have contributed.

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[hannahptrussell]

Okay. Well my OPKs are just going to be wishy-washy this month. They look to progress and then nothing. My most recent one is light so either I had a surge or I haven’t. Any tips? Keep testing? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180426/b01023103ab64fb354e24c7d9ac67f55.jpg

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[kikurose]

Okay. Well my OPKs are just going to be wishy-washy this month. They look to progress and then nothing. My most recent one is light so either I had a surge or I haven’t. Any tips? Keep testing? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180426/b01023103ab64fb354e24c7d9ac67f55.jpg

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Hannah do you have any other fertile signs? What has your CM been like? If you're in doubt I'd probably keep testing? But I am NOT a pro, I'd be interested in what pbn thinks

[hannahptrussell]

Hannah do you have any other fertile signs? What has your CM been like? If you're in doubt I'd probably keep testing? But I am NOT a pro, I'd be interested in what pbn thinks

So here’s this month’s deal:
First month off of Clomid after 2 consecutive months on cd3-7.
Had a chemical and started one week late.
Have strep and am currently on antibiotics
Cervix is high but cm is not normally what it is around this time. So that doesn’t tell me much.
Upset stomach and loose potty breaks (sorry) which is typical for around my fertile week.

So would being off clomid throw this cycle for a loop not having it? I may just continue testing and EOD until I either get my AF or I give up. Hahahaha.



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[kikurose]

So here’s this month’s deal:
First month off of Clomid after 2 consecutive months on cd3-7.
Had a chemical and started one week late.
Have strep and am currently on antibiotics
Cervix is high but cm is not normally what it is around this time. So that doesn’t tell me much.
Upset stomach and loose potty breaks (sorry) which is typical for around my fertile week.

So would being off clomid throw this cycle for a loop not having it? I may just continue testing and EOD until I either get my AF or I give up. Hahahaha.



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Haha! I have no good insight but I'd probably keep testing until I gave up lol

[Pbn3]

Kikurose I still have every confidence you'll get a bfp! Cannot wait for tomorrows test! Also I believe ff has your crosshairs a day early and you're only 9dpo [emoji4]

Hannah what cd are you on? When did you use to o prior to the clomid cycles and when did you o during the clomid cycles? I know you won't know exact days especially with not temping, but when did you get your pos opks and then o pain? Usually clomid cycles are good for narrowing down to a few days due to strong cramps and/or that bloated/bursting feeling that disappears... It could be possible you're having an out of whack cycle, clomid takes approx 6 weeks or so to clear your system so that combined with the loss *could* be causing issues? It is normal to o later than usual following a loss though too so it may simply be that. I'd just keep testing once a day (1-3pm) until that line gets stronger then maybe again at night once it's close? If you bd e4d (every 3rd night/72 hours) that will give you a solid one attempt in case you miss/don't get a peak surge.

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Hannah just read that you're on antibiotics! Now that may be causing delayed o, I'm sure I have seen several times that illness/antibiotics can cause this to happen!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[Pbn3]

Hannah I'm trying to attach a screenshot but it wont let me. I'll keep trying though

It says: "if antibiotics are affecting your estrogen levels, you may not ovulate or ovulation may occur later than normal."



DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[kikurose]

Thanks for your confidence pbn! I actually think it's a day early too, so what you're saying aligns with what I was thinking. I'll test tomorrow and hope I don't have to go pee in the middle of the night again ha! I usually don't!

[onebigwish]

I can officially join the april tww thread yeeeejj :) 2 dpo yet 7 days to go till testing day !

[emshe]

I can officially join the april tww thread yeeeejj :) 2 dpo yet 7 days to go till testing day !

Good luck!!!!


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[emshe]

Thanks for your confidence pbn! I actually think it's a day early too, so what you're saying aligns with what I was thinking. I'll test tomorrow and hope I don't have to go pee in the middle of the night again ha! I usually don't!

🤞🏻🤞🏻 hoping the having to pee is a good sign [emoji6]


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[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome onebigwish! Fx for you!

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[emshe]

So here’s this month’s deal:
First month off of Clomid after 2 consecutive months on cd3-7.
Had a chemical and started one week late.
Have strep and am currently on antibiotics
Cervix is high but cm is not normally what it is around this time. So that doesn’t tell me much.
Upset stomach and loose potty breaks (sorry) which is typical for around my fertile week.

So would being off clomid throw this cycle for a loop not having it? I may just continue testing and EOD until I either get my AF or I give up. Hahahaha.



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Oh Hannah, how frustrating. Hope you get some clarity soon. I’ll be hoping for you


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[kikurose]

�������� hoping the having to pee is a good sign [emoji6]


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Haha true!!! Still not feeling confident, but I like pbn's confidence lol.

[hannahptrussell]

Ok. So I think there’s something to this sickness/antibiotic/post clomid thing. I typically have a 31 day cycle and ovulate around cd18. But on Clomid, I was a 28 day cycle and ovulated around cd14. So. I’ll keep testing on those OPKs and just see how it goes.


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[Pbn3]

What cd are you on now hannah?

DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

[hannahptrussell]

What cd are you on now hannah?

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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]

Cd15 and have had 2 temp increases over the past two nights so this may be interesting. Eh. I’ve done what I can do, but I think I’ll still keep testing on OPKs in the afternoons. Just to see.


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[ABC.2606]

Kikurose - did you test yet today??

Mummy - how are you doing?

emshe - hope you're enjoying your time away!!

I tested with a wondfo this morning- bfn. Only 9 dpo though so doesn't mean much :)

[kikurose]

Thanks for asking ABC! Looks like I'm just one day DPO ahead of you! Sooo had to pee AGAIN about 4 hours after falling asleep, so I just tested then since my next sleep was going to be 3 hours or less- it was bfn *sad trombone* it was pretty clear too (tmi?) so clearly I'm drinking too much late in the day ha.

So I am going to wait to test now until Sunday unless AF comes then. I agree and think today I'm 10 DPO, so hopefully I can get a good test eventually OR Af will arrive.

FX for you ABC!