UK SMOG Wannabes ~ December

[charlieispy]

ohno inglewood :( sorry you have this going on - my inlaws sound exactly the same x huge hugs hope you manage to sort it out x - i would say you dont know and will be finding out at the private scan x x

Will catch up soon x sorry ladies really busy here am sure you all are too x x did i say i was feeling better - can i take it back lol - i am better than i was but now being sick when i get in from the school run JOY its just too much at the mo :( anyway lovely ladies hope you are all ok x

AND secret santa arrived SSOoooooo excited thankyou santa :D keeping it for xmas day :D

[littlemisswilko]

How rude inglewood!!! id be angry too. Hope you get it all sorted out in the end!

Sunset - no MS. ive never ever suffered from it so dont know what it feels like :S i just feel normal IYKWIM.

kell - great you have got a appointment! i was at the doctors yesturday so thought id better try and get a booking in appointment with the MW and she had left an answering machine message saying the earliest appoint they have is 3rd of jan. which is fine by me!

[Sunset]

Homebirthingprincess ~ yes i used the Solaray calcium citrate supplements :)

Inglewood ~ omg, family drama!! that so sounds like something my family-in-law would do!!! especially some kind of drama surrounding something someone read on FB lol it happens all the time *bork* people are so quick to make assumptions and if your MIL thought it was on FB why didn't she ring you first to confirm? I think it mostly sounds like some desperate attempt to get you to confirm gender by "mistake" if you know what i mean :/

Littlemisswilko ~ I was like that with ds2. You are very lucky! :)

Charlieispy ~ I'm so sorry to hear you're feeling sick again :( such long school runs is very hard work!

[Sunset]

oh and isn't "you've got your hands full" the most ANNOYING comment ever!!!!!?? I wonder if I was 10-15 years older would I get that comment as frequently?

[Inglewood]

Sunset, that's exactly what dh said!! Why didn't she call us and say "what's with the girls comment on fb?" grrr All we have told my in-laws/friends etc.... is that we know, but aren't telling anyone till the 4d scan in jan, so they will ALL have to wait. Only my parents know, as I can totally trust them! Makes me annoyed at the woman who started this on FB! Hating FB today!! Makes me want to tell NO-ONE!!! even after Jan scan. My MIL hasn't texted back since I asked if it was her!:mad: Dh is so mad is mum thought she could tell his big sister any info she thought she knew before we did!!

Sunset, saw ur Fb comment, what a cheeky woman! I hate how people think it's ok to comment on other people's situations when they are complete strangers! It's like I heard some people at work have been discussing me!!! How will I cope with 4 kids, financially, having to move etc... the cheek! Like it's any of their buisiness. They had me off sick from the end of NOV! One girl took a note of all my shifts that she could do when I'm off!!! It made me more determined to keep going,although I doubt I will make it past mid jan!!

Think I'm in a ranting mood...SORRY!

On the plus!! I made £70 on ebay!!! Money to buy stuff for the :twins: and I'm 20 wks pg today!!! Yeah!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Hun, i had no idea you conceived a daughter, so sorry for your loss X. and i was wrong about the vectical, that is just vit d though the clobex is a tyoe of steroid. Im just not convinced much goes into your system if its used sparingly like you did. Im trying to just use whatever prescribed on the bad bit of my legs. Have you ever tried coal tar? Im sure thats what i used as a teen. Sorry to hear bfn for you and also that you cant attempt this month. Fresh start in the new year! X

Yeah I'm not sure how much goes into your system, however, once I found out I was preggo (the loss) my doc called me immediately to stop using them. Never tried coal tar. The clobex and vectical work pretty well for me. I guess I'm gonna just concentrate on diet till January ttc again. I feel much better already. GOing to doc next Friday- hopefully to come off the steroid.. I'm starting to think maybe I should look into high tec. Anyone ever consider????

[HopeandDreamG]

Congrats LittleMiss thats awesome news!!!!

[Wishing4Pink]

Congratulations Littlemisswilko, what fab news!!!

Yay to being 20 weeks inglewood :D . So sorry your inlaws are being pains and stressing out, sounds like they need to grow up.

Hope the sickness eases up for you soon Charlie.

Maybepink, lovely scan pic!

Hello to everyone else

x

[indigoviolet]

Hi all, still feeling rubbish, ugh. Does anyone know about taking B6 for m/s? The ginger not helping! I'm going to try accupuncture, have booked myself in for an appt on Sat. I'm just not coping with it at all, don't know how all you girls managed.

Inglewood- I would be fuming too, so annoying when people get unnecessarily involved and mess things up. Hope things are resolving themselves now.

Maybe- glad you had a good scan, I always park at tesco too, at least it is free though you do have a longer walk. Tuesdays are good for me, only day really can't do is Fri, just let me know!

Sunset- yes, I really wanted to be part of the SS so I just slotted my name in to the list randomly so I didn't choose who I had but do know who my SS is! It is exciting everyone sending out and getting their presents! :)

[Lavenderlime]

Inglewood so sorrry for the family drama causing you stress! Inlaws can be such a nightmare sometimes.
yay for 20 weeks! Feels like only yesterday you found out you were having twins not two months ago!!

I've got a feeling I've missed O?? I got quite a dark line on the cheapies a few days ago but no smiley and the cheapies have been getting fainter and no smiley's also had some O pains for two days but was hoping they were pre-O pains which i've googled and can happen. FX for a smiley tomorrow as I'll be CD 14 which is normally when I get a positive on the cheapies.

Had a busy day today collecting holly and bits from MIL garden to decorate the house. Also i've been sewing on a thundercats badge onto an orange leotard as you do :D lol. I'm working on New Years Eve and and everyone dresses up and the theme is 'TV characters from your childhood' I'm going as Cheetara, http://thundercatssite.com/cheetara-profile/ a link for those of you too young to have watched thundercats, myself included :D. I found a great blog which showed me how to make the costume. God know what i'll do with a gold single sleeved catsuit after new years!! Not really school run couture lol.

[Lavenderlime]

Indigo you poor thing. I've never had MS so really have no clue but can imagine how awful it must be especially with little ones to look after. Hope you find something that helps. x

[littlemisswilko]

indigo how come you dont have a pregnancy ticker?

[chocolate]

Indigo Violet - Id post asking atomic as I read something she wrote before about taking it in pregnancy and doses. I feel for you, feeling sick to me is worse than childbirth, makes me want to curl up and do nothing but cry. I have felt sick on and off today and it gave me a horrid reminder of how that feels, so much so that its made me think about delaying my attempt for a couple of cycles so atleast DS2 is a bit older and walking confidently lol.
Charlie hope you feel better soon xx

[deaks66]

Lavender, i was sooooooo the thundercats generation...thunder, thunder, thunder cats! and your outfit sounds awesome! Oh and i too need to get hold of some holly!! Hope you havent missed ov... my opks quite often fade in and out. have you had any ewcm? Keep testing!

H&G, im starting to think me and dh might go high tec... not this time round but next time. I have some inheritance saved up so i just need dh to be on-board. Must be so hard for you having lost a dd. Im convinced my first chemical was my dd, so to actually know must be devastating. i do so hope you conceive another dd, be it swaying or high tech X

Inglewood, sorry to hear you are having family dramas over twinnies gender. Shame people cant just be happy for you that you are firstly pg and secondly carrying two. Why are they obsessed with gender...leave that bit to us mummies!!!!

Indigo, so sorry you are suffering. Wish i knew what to suggest. At least its a good sign though. Well jell of your meet up with maybe! Wish i had a swaying buddy nearby :(

I have a parcel waiting for me at the post office. I do so hope its my SS! Gonna try wait til christmas, but im a a bit rubbish at that! Hoping my recipient got theirs ok and didnt have to add any postage!! Queue so long at post office, i just wacked a load of stamps on!

I got the stinky coal tar today.... dont remember it smelling this bad as a teen but not gonna moan as it wont affect my sway. I will just smell like a croass between a hospital and road works for a few months!

Ph looking good 3.9-4.3 at the mo and hoping to ov early next week. I know i say this every month... but pleeeeeeease god, let it be my go!!

Hi everyone else! X

[littlemisswilko]

fingers crossed for a bfp this month deaks! it truely is your turn for one!!

chocolate - hope you are feeling a bit better for tomorrow!! and hope you decide when it feels best to start ttc

[littlemisswilko]

deaks/ H&G ~ After telling my dp this mnth that i was pg the first thing he said was ohh well you didnt get pg the way you wanted with us not swaying etc. and commented on how easy it was to fall pg without swaying. He then went on to say that the odds for this one being a boy are high and if this is the case we will have no other choice but to go high tech and have to save. which im glad he's on my side.

[chocolate]

lmw - have u looked into how much it would be high tech?
This is something I would consider for our last but depends on the over-all cost espcially if it took a few cycles but also wouldnt want to tell people and that would be almost impossible

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ rant all you want :) It’s only good to get it off your chest and that’s what we’re all here for! Thank you, I too thought she was very cheeky, but at the same time I get those kind of comments as soon as I leave the house... sometimes I think perhaps I’m just very hormonal at the moment? DH thinks I’m being overly sensitive and apparently people are just trying to make conversation lol it just gets to me when people put such a negative tone to me having my children close in age.. at the end of the day it’s not like they’re “accidents”! They were all planned and very much wanted and I wouldn’t have it any other way! But as I think we all know, people just can’t be happy for other people :(
Yay for 20 weeks!! :cheer:

Indigoviolet ~ You can definitely take b6 in pregnancy! It might be worth booking an appointment with your GD as I know of women who have been prescribed b6 in pregnancy to help ease nausea.. something like 10mcg

Lavenderlime ~ fx you haven’t missed ov! Do you not take your bbt?
Love the outfit btw!! :D awesome!

Chocolate ~ MS really isn’t nice at all. Let us know what you decide!

Deaks ~ great ph! :agree: hopefully the coal tar will do the trick and help the rash clear up quickly! If you go high tech will you go to Europe or America to have it done?

Littlemisswilko ~ it must be so nice to know your dh is on board for going high tech in the future if this is another sweet boy for you. I would have loved the idea of high tech but there is just no way on earth we would ever have been able to afford it so i would have had no choice but to try naturally again.

[littlemisswilko]

lmw - have u looked into how much it would be high tech?
This is something I would consider for our last but depends on the over-all cost espcially if it took a few cycles but also wouldnt want to tell people and that would be almost impossible

i havent looked to much into it but it costs around £6000 - £7000 at cyprus. I think youre there around a week or two so could tell family you were going on holiday. would obviously have to do some more reserch but obviously this can be an option

[zanacal]

Sunset - the 'you've got your hands full' comment is the one I get all the time too!

[littlemisswilko]

sunset- with our situation i dont really think we would be able to afford it either. im glad i have age on my side so can obviously wait a lot longer and hopefully try to save etc. My dp also said he would proberbly ask for a loan off his mum if need be. we'll just have to wait to see what the future holds!

[deaks66]

i havent looked to much into it but it costs around £6000 - £7000 at cyprus. I think youre there around a week or two so could tell family you were going on holiday. would obviously have to do some more reserch but obviously this can be an option

Thats what i was thinking. A 'holiday' to cyprus!

[maybebabythree]

Lavender please do the school run in your cat suit! Pmsl! When I have my third i will be there covered in puke and leaky boobs! Hee hee!

High tech is 6k ish at genesis. I do wonder about it but you have to be happy to try 3 times as that seems to be the amount of times to get the drugs right. Also have to be happy to come away with nothing which is why I didn't do it as I needed another baby. Dd would be a nice bonus now but I'm getting on at 37. It's really not a easy option but I might try it. Dh is not to keen but I don't know. Not sure it would work or if I want four kids. I want to go abroad every year and not live on the breadline. To do that I have to work as you know dh is rubbish with money. But childcare costs are the real expense for me - not the ivf. I have more than that in the bank

[Inglewood]

Evening ladies... my blood has simmered...although no contact from my MIL! Well till I got home and more drama from ds1 and this boy over the back from our house telling lies... he actually admitted lying last wk and he's at it again! My ds1 has had enough, it's so sad. He's such a laid back kid and so tolerant of other kids, but he's getting really angry at all this. I don't blame him, dh said he would of 'thumped' back him by now, but my ds1 says he has hit back, but only as a last resort if this boy is really hurting him. The boy told him today it's because my ds1 has been playing with his friend and he is jealous and told my ds1 NOT to play with him.... but this boy lies to his mum, blames my son, then when confronted/asked about what he said this boy stutters, makes up stories...then admits it's lies...can't his mum see thru him by now?? I would be mortified to be his mum (she's a friend of mine, which makes it difficult). Told my ds1 to stay clear of him as it only leads to heartache and trouble! The joys!!

For those of you considering High tech, I would of done it, no question! but could never afford it, so natural was my only hope. But GL if any of u do in the future!

Need to stop there and read back again....lol

Oh, and I too was on THUNDERCAT generation, dh tries desp to get the boys to watch the new series with him..'hear the magic, hear the roar, thundercat's are loose'....lol

[maybebabythree]

Plus that money should go on my existing kids. Always aimed to give my kids more than I had growing up. I had to drive to uni in London then come home and work all night in a factory to fund my education. Amazing I never fell asleep at the wheel.

[Inglewood]

Indigo, is MS new for this pg??

Lavender, GL making ur costume! I remember Thunder cats's well!

Chocolate, so will u start ttc in maybe feb? We know when is best for us.

Sunset, I don't get comments when I am with the boys. But when I tell people I have a 9yr old they say "How? you only look early-mid twenties" did u have him young? No, I was almost 24! Other's say nothing and I think, ah well that's the 9yrs of nightshift finally catching up on my face!!! lol I hated being pg with him for the same reason, at 23 I looked young and wanted to shout at people staring at me and then my bump, that I was 23, a qualified nurse and not a teenage mum!!! My brother and gf had their son at 15 and 16 and it must of been so tough on my brothers gf at 15! if I had it at 23! Do think I don't look as young now, I am 32 and prob look late twenties, 30. So the looks are not as bad. Hated it tho! Maybe the pg hormones were taking over and as dh said she was making converstaion with u...have certainly experienced lots of hormones today too!! lol

[littlemisswilko]

Lavender please do the school run in your cat suit! Pmsl! When I have my third i will be there covered in puke and leaky boobs! Hee hee!

High tech is 6k ish at genesis. I do wonder about it but you have to be happy to try 3 times as that seems to be the amount of times to get the drugs right. Also have to be happy to come away with nothing which is why I didn't do it as I needed another baby. Dd would be a nice bonus now but I'm getting on at 37. It's really not a easy option but I might try it. Dh is not to keen but I don't know. Not sure it would work or if I want four kids. I want to go abroad every year and not live on the breadline. To do that I have to work as you know dh is rubbish with money. But childcare costs are the real expense for me - not the ivf. I have more than that in the bank

when you say you have to try about 3 times to get the drugs right it that 6k a pop ???

[chocolate]

Do any IG followers have the download book for ttc girl/boy - I have the cookbook but not the original sway factor book. Wondered if anyone could email it to me, let me know and Ill pm my email - thanks


Ah Inglewood, hope you get the issue sorted, poor DS1!!

Yeah hightech is something I would consider maybe after having 4 naturally, as we would only ever go to 5 if it guaranteed a girl if it worked. Will put aside some money just in case.

[Kell]

Morning!!
We have snow! Yay! How exciting! I packed ds2 off to the childminders in his snow suit as he has a Christmas party at one of his groups today!
I'm off to the Disney shop with dp to see if you can get some good Xmas presents for ds2! He's a Disney whore lol

Yesterday I had a lovely day shopping and lunch with my sister, today more of the same but with dp!
Might buy a sledge as well so we can play later on :)

[Inglewood]

Snow!! Lucky you. I have 2 brand new shiny sledges waiting for the snow and all we are getting is gail force winds and rain!

I just went to the post office with the last of my ebay stuff and posted the most expensive one, getting home and realising it hadn't been paid for!!! DUH! Went to get it back and I'll loose my postage if it's not paid for by today!! at 5pm. So emailed her as the auction ended 2 days ago!! Will be so mad if she doesn't pay today and I loose my postage £2.16,know it's not much, but with ebay every penny counts!! What am I like!!

Going for a quick shower then xmas wrapping today!! Have a good day. x

[Sunset]

Hi ladies! I have a packet waiting for me at the delivery office. Unfortunately I was picking ds1 up from nursery when they came knocking on the door.. hoping it's my SS! :D exciting :D

I also went to midwife drop-in clinic this morning and my blood pressure was fine today so it must have been a one off. I had been rushing that morning to get to my appointment on time so perhaps that had something to do with it. I've got another midwife appointment on tuesday so hopefully my bp stays low :)

Inglewood ~ I don't have to be pregnant to get them sort of comments lol it's just for me to walk out the door with my boys lol. Usually I don't mind the comments and just brush them off, but every now and then there's some bitter old lady who has to make it sounds so negative to have 2 young children and be pregnant with my 3rd and that's what gets to me! I hate when people make it out to be a "chore". at the end of the day it was my choice to have 3 children and to have them close in age :)
I feel sorry for your with your ds and his friend situation.. can't be easy for your ds and very tricky for you since that boys mum is your friend.. ((hug))

Kell ~ Lucky you! :) everywhere seems to have snow apart from here :( even Newcastle has got snow and that's only 50 minutes up the road..

Chocolate ~ I don't have it downloaded on my computer unfortunately, but I have it on paper in a folder and if you'd like I could send you a copy?

[Inglewood]

I got my Secret santa!! Thank u! Haven't opened it, put it under the tree.......

Sunset, no snow here either :( 15miles up the road could be thick with it, but I think living by the sea stops it lying with all the salt in the air! Glad ur Bp is behaving!! And I agree with what u said, it's our choice and some people need to remember they were prob younger parents than we are now. Funny how yrs ago (that woman's generation!), you were a old mum mid twenties, then it was into 30's now older mum's are over 40! Funny how society changes. Like u, I don't care, I was a mum at 23, when I wanted to be and felt ready to be a mum! x

[Lavenderlime]

Just popping in opks seem to be fading in again phew! :) Do you ladies normally test 3 times a day in the lead up to O? I've only got 4 digitals left, I've ordered some more but they prob won't arrive until monday. Really don't want to miss the start of my surge but don't want to run out of digi's either! I don't temp and have no clue what my cm is doing as there isn't much. But would say it's a bit EW??

So think I might test with a cheapie after work and see how dark it is and then maybe test with a digi. Today is normally when I get a +OPk... but nothing is normal when your swaying is it!! lol

[Lavenderlime]

This is why O+12 is a PITA and I don't even really believe that much in timing!! Damn it!

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ shame, i hope we both get some snow over christmas at least :) Unfortunately there are always going to be judgemental people out there and I always think to myself when people try and put my situation down and make it sound like something bad that that's clearly how they experienced parenthood and has nothing to do with me.. I just think it's sad that there are so many bitter people out there!

Inglewood ~ I only used the cheapie opk's and only tested 1 or twice a day over ov. Hopefully you'll get your +opk soon! :)

[charlieispy]

Hi all, still feeling rubbish, ugh. Does anyone know about taking B6 for m/s? The ginger not helping! I'm going to try accupuncture, have booked myself in for an appt on Sat. I'm just not coping with it at all, don't know how all you girls managed.


HUGS hun - answer is i didnt cope really lol - this pregnancy has been the hardest DH has been pulling his weight as much as possible but still the house is a tip, food and dinners are often takeouts and I try and nap whenever ds3 is napping. The hot water thing made a big difference to me THANKS inglewood I can still only drink hot cranberry oceanspray squash and sometimes a glass of tonic water....thats it! Cucumber helps a little, rich tea biscuits. Start taking fish oil - my colonic friend recommended this as my constipation got so bad i was only going once a week (sorry TMI) but since starting that it is much better x try and rest when possible x

[charlieispy]

deaks - yay for good ph FX for your attempt x x BFP BFP x x

sunset - lol i always get comments about being young - at work they asked random customers how old i was i think the general age was 18 WHOOP haha so when regulars see me with 3 kids they nearly choke on their coffee, i get more comments about having 3 boys though - like how do you cope!

inglewood glad you have calmed down a bit x in laws grrrrrrrrr

We could never have afforded high tech and for me i dont think i could do it x i always believed my MC baby was a girl as my morning sickness was so so bad but who knows if I have another boy I will be gutted but I will be done so no more wondering and wishing will just get on with my crew :D

Schools out thankgod I HATE the school run in the winter it makes me want to cry lol luckily i have the car fridays as it was snowing this morning - melted now but still cold and wet. Roll on xmas now :D

[chocolate]

Thanks for the offer, but I found it! :-)


Hi ladies! I have a packet waiting for me at the delivery office. Unfortunately I was picking ds1 up from nursery when they came knocking on the door.. hoping it's my SS! :D exciting :D

I also went to midwife drop-in clinic this morning and my blood pressure was fine today so it must have been a one off. I had been rushing that morning to get to my appointment on time so perhaps that had something to do with it. I've got another midwife appointment on tuesday so hopefully my bp stays low :)

Inglewood ~ I don't have to be pregnant to get them sort of comments lol it's just for me to walk out the door with my boys lol. Usually I don't mind the comments and just brush them off, but every now and then there's some bitter old lady who has to make it sounds so negative to have 2 young children and be pregnant with my 3rd and that's what gets to me! I hate when people make it out to be a "chore". at the end of the day it was my choice to have 3 children and to have them close in age :)
I feel sorry for your with your ds and his friend situation.. can't be easy for your ds and very tricky for you since that boys mum is your friend.. ((hug))

Kell ~ Lucky you! :) everywhere seems to have snow apart from here :( even Newcastle has got snow and that's only 50 minutes up the road..

Chocolate ~ I don't have it downloaded on my computer unfortunately, but I have it on paper in a folder and if you'd like I could send you a copy?

[Inglewood]

Charlie, Fx it's not long till the M/S eases!! I can say this was my worst sickness pg also! Hope ur constipation eases off soon too. I also had it bad alongside the M/s, so cruel! But once I started eating normally agian it went away (mostly). So are ur schools finished for xmas?? Ours don't finish till 23rd! Luckily I can leave the house at 8.55am and still be on time!

I spend ALL day wrapping prezzie's....not even for the boys!! Everyone else! I am knackered, so much so I can't face Asda tonight!! Gonna have a go at online shopping later....wish me luck!!! lol x

[zanacal]

I still have all my presents to wrap - DH is away on his work's Christmas do tomorrow night so it seems a good time to force myself to do it but I really hate doing it. I wish I had a wrapping fairy!!

[charlieispy]

Definitely feeling better than before but still struggling hoping with no school run that will help x inglewood oooh jealous of your lovely quick run x feeling your wrapping fatigue too have been wrapping a handful each day then ihit a wall still have the boys to do :(

Good luck with your mammoth wrapping session sunset x i have my work do tomorrow too can't be bothered got a face mask today and hair stuff just no energy to try and look nice lol fx i manage something

[Kell]

Sorry going to have a rant here guys please feel free to ignore me!

Dp's so is visiting us this weekend, we have him from tonight till Monday evening, we won't see him again until well into the new year so it's our Christmas with him this weekend! Anyway a little history on his mum, Unfortunatly she has always been very against giving dp much time with his son, 1 night every 1st and 3rd weekend is all we were allowed, no extra during holidays and never over Christmas ever!
We it got too much and we took things to a solicitor and went through mediation to get more access, she didn't have a leg to stand on and was advised this by solicitors so we have come to a much better and fair agreement!
That was in October, fast forward to today, dp went to collect his son from her parents house, the ex and his son live 2 hours away from us and this weekend she came to visit her parents so it was the best thing to do this weekend.
He goes to pick him up and would you believe she sends him out with nothing but the clothes he was wearing! She's always been adamant we are not to buy him clothes, always sends him with a bag of clothes. Not today, no clothes, no coat, no gloves or hat, nothing! Bare in mind it's been snowing so she must have literally taken his coat etc off him and kept them at her parents!
I'm fuming I mean wtf is wrong with this nutter!? I can on imagine this is her way of getting a bit of control back but ffs I'm actually stunned!

[Inglewood]

She sounds like a nightmare!! Poor boy, it's him suffering (literally) with no clean clothes or a jkt!!! Did she think u would turn round and say, "well if he's no stuff with him then he can't stay?" Is she jealous of his new family (u guys?)

[maybebabythree]

Oh kell that is sad. It's not fair to take the break up put on the kids. Do you have any thing in his size? If he's older then maybe just the basics cheap from eBay or tesco and keep then at your place. Your boys can have them when they are older. Hugs

Yes ivf is 6k each time but genesis will do a second round for 4k if the first round fails. I have seen very few one hits wonders on ig and I have been on there for about three years

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Hello Ladies sorry i havent been on much, I always have so much to catch up on, this weekend is mad for us, tomorrow morning the boys room and living room are being decorated and then I also have a party from a music group I go to with ds3 and dd then from 4 we have a party for my friends 30th its a family party but I have baking and food to make and then sunday is just as busy with a rememberence meal for my grandad, children in a nativity at the carol service and well everything else I normally do, would all be easier if they had finished school but they finish on tuesday aarrrrgghhh feeling just slightly stressed!!!

[Kell]

I don't think it's a jealousy thing, the split up when tommy was less than a year old, he's nearly 7 now, she's married and has another child as well, I honestly think its because she's pissed off that we dared to go to solicitors for more access. She's always been awkward but this is a new low.
I don't mind buying him bits for here but some sort of warning would have been good, I
Mean it's a week before Christmas she's out of order! I can honestly say I hate this woman, I'm sure it doesn't help that I'm hormonal! Lol

[chocolate]

Kell that's just low, using her son to make a point, he must have been freezing!!! Well ladies, I have decided to hold off ttc till March (if not pregnant this cycle) lol. I know March onwards is best to sway so want to give it the best shot I can. DS1 starts school in september so don't want there to be any huge changes around that time. I'm so bad at rushing into things and then wishing I'd have given it more thought and the bigger the age gap the better. The only worry is that work hours drop and I can't then claim full maternity allowance but I'm going to have to chance that and keep my fingers crossed. Is anyone else waiting tillMarch? I need a waiting buddy!! Going to be so so hard to wait it out! Going to plan lots of lovely things to do with my boys in the meantime to appreciate only juggling 2 :-)

[Inglewood]

Kell, it must be so difficult. Dh's sister has a boy who is 13 from a prev relationship and his dad lives 2 hrs away. Every 2nd wkend his dad picks him up on a fri takes him to his and brings him back on a sun night. Been doing it for 9yrs! The dad phones and asks to 'swap' wkends and my SIL says ok (most times) but he won't swap his wkends. It drives my SIL mad, but she's kept her mouth shut about it to let them stay amicable, she is re-married and has a 7yr old girl and sometimes he doesn't want to go to his dad's as it's it's friend s b'day etc and his dad refuses to let him go to the party and take him the next wkend, which is a shame. His dad has re-married a woman with 3 kids and they now have a 1yr old baby, so dh's nephew doesn't even want to go that much now as what was 'his' bedroom for 9yrs is now his step-brother's and he has no time with his dad. He has told his dad all this, but he doesn't listen. Dh's nephew refused to go only twice last yr out of about 26 visits as he had football games etc with his friends and he's a runner with a club. Not beacuse he didn't want to see his dad. So his dad has got a solicitor involved, blaming my SIL when it's the boy not wanting to go due to other commitments,my SIL has always been fair, even when she's had to bite her lip about alot of stuff. So complicated and sad, and for ur DH to have to do that he must of really missed him and it's nice he gets to see his wee brother's, that's so impt too. I hope things get sorted. Sounds like ur the being the fair side to this situation and she's not, at least u can say ur are trying ur best! GL x

[indigoviolet]

Wow a lot to catch up on girls!

Went to have accupuncture this morning to help with the m/s, seems to have helped a bit, need to go back next week so hopefully I'll feel OK over Christmas. At least it was nice lying down relaxing without the boys for an hour!

I have a scan on Friday because of my previous losses. It will be a relief to see a healthy bean so praying it all goes well. I'm hoping they will be able to see enough as I will only be 7+2 or so weeks. Will put up a pg ticker if all goes well!

Love to you all, have lovely weekends :HH:

oh, sunset, someone I think it was on IG had as her ticker 'if you think my hands are full, you should see my heart', always a good response!

[Inglewood]

MIL saga continues... I sent her a sweet email thanking her for the boys xmas £ to buy gifts for them, talked about ds2 talking to my bump and general chit chat. Then reassured he the woman on FB did not know the sex etc.... I got this awful email saying how dare I blame her (which I haven't once blamed her for telling my older SIL) and how dare I email her and not phone...OMG!! Dh was going crazy! I told her I emailed as ds2 has an ear infection and I've been running about daft, dh working late and we are my bed early with tiredness!! Like I need the stress, so I called her and explained she had got the wrong end of the stick, I was simply reassuring her only Dh and I knew and it wasn't meant to sound nasty. Dh says it doesn't it's a nice email and she's just bitter that we won't tell her the sex and she's not centre of attention! I do get on with her, but this is out of order! She then admitted she DID tell my SIL she read that....so what the hell??? Might be an awkward visit at xmas this yr!!! Don't go till 27th as they live 2hrs away. We left the call ok, no cross words at all, but I thought NO u ain't getting away with this! She always creates a fuss when a baby is born, that she wasn't first to know the chosen names, she wasn't told every pg milestone first etc... she told dh she is annoyed he doesn't phone every 2wks after my scan to update, what's wrong with her calling us??? She hasn't vsited in over a year! we visit them and they can't be bothered to drive here (they admit that) and same if someone getting married she plays martyr! A selfsih, childish woman sometimes and a lovely kind the other. Dh says she wasn't a loving mum, just there and no more :(

[chocolate]

Inglewood well done for ending it nicely, my OH's nan is a nightmare, really loud and opinionated and her view or her own families view is always the right way - and is conveniently deaf when someone voices their opinion! We've kind of distanced ourselves from the in laws on OH's side now as at the end of the day I didnt want that influence on our boys, although it is sad because I think the boys would like to see more of them and Im sure they will see the favouritism to their girl cousins but what can you do?! If your in laws wont make the effort to see you or travel to you then they have no right to get cranky when they dont know the ins and outs of everything, they cant have it both ways! We just learnt to let it all go now and stay away a bit more so when we do get together it is actually a nice occasion as we are all generally happy to spend a few hours together every couple of months lol.

Indigoviolet - didnt think of acupuncture or alternative therapies for m sickness, will remember that as I hate hate hate sickness! Glad its easing.


My turn for a moan lol. My OH has been a right nob tonight, he has basically been working overtime for the best part of this year, goes to work at 650am and 3 nights a week isnt home till 11pm, then its 5 or 6 pm Thursdays and same Fridays.
You would think he would miss time with the boys and prioritise them once home but its as if he just finds them a hassle and cant be bothered. I know if your tired it can be hard to pull out the patience and give your best but I do take them out at weekends so he can have a couple of hours of tv time but he is still a grump. Today DS1 was sick and ill this morning so after I got in from babysitting at 130am I got up at 7am with them and OH got up at 8am to help out. Then meand DS2 went shopping etc. for half a day and then in the pm too while DS1 just watched dvds and OH sat on his arse. Then at 5pm I chucked the boys tea in the oven and asked OH to dish up which he huffed and puffed about having to do, moaned I hadnt cooked him tea, but dished up the boys. So I start doing hand and foot prints with the boys for xmas pressies and leave the highchair. OH walks in, steps over the food on the floor. sits down and says 'pick up the food' Im like 'you what?' you do it, you just stepped over it and havent done anything all day. And he had a right strop about how I didnt tidy up dinner and how I havent cooked him tea and he has had to clean up ..................... seriously I could have got a pan and hit him on the head at this point!
Im sooooo mad, he needs a wake up call, he is going to do the food shop with me from now on, can wrap the pressies with me and can start meal planning for when he is home and start cooking and will start doing planned outings on the weekend. He is acting like a teenager, his Mum basically did everything and still does for the men and I am just not having that, aaargh!!

[Sunset]

Evening ladies! it's been quiet on here today for a change :p

Threelittmen ~ wow you have a busy schedule! sounds like so much fun!! :)

Indigoviolet ~ I have a Christmas card for you which i’m going to send next week. I apologise it hasn’t been sent out sooner i’m just so unorganised this year with the Christmas cards

Inglewood ~ I can’t believe the family drama she’s creating! Does she really think this is something you should be stressing about? Clearly she wants to be centre of attention? My PIL never visit us and they live 5 min car drive away.. they expect us to always visit them and bring the kids on a silver plate for them every Sunday. Even if they’re in the area they will happily tell us about it, but not actually think to come by and knock on the door to see if we’re in. Same on weekends, if they’re out doing something they never think to invite us.. all they care about is that we come visit for 2 hours on a Sunday afternoon and then you can’t expect them to actually interact with the kids. They’re just trophies to them :(

Kell ~ she sounds like an awful woman!! Poor kid :( it’s women like her who raise boys into men with commitment issues..

Chocolate ~ oh hun what a situation! I would have seriously considered hitting him with a pan as well! Sounds like he needs to grow up and help out more at home. What does he say when you try and talk to him about it?

AFM, been out this morning doing the last of the Christmas shopping :) i also went to the delivery office and picked up my secret santa packet! :D Thank you SS!!! I haven’t opened it yet but will wait until Christmas day, but i have to say Wow it’s so beautifully packaged!! Even the lady in the delivery office mentioned what a beautifully wrapped parcel :D

[chocolate]

Sunset - he just doesnt say much, I think he actually thinks he should be able to do not do anything round the house, Ive let it slip, time to get the whip back out. I said to him dont push me too far as it will back fire on you and he kept on moaning - he likes to think we live in the 60's where the women look after the men and the house and kids - ummm, I work too! I childmind so can also look after our children so he should appreciate that I am able to bring in some money and look after our kids at home, and do some chores. I saw so many men out shopping today with their families or wives and it made me really cross that he reacted like that over me not doing the highchair when I was busy doing other stuff. He seems to have this thing about doing 1 thing at a time, get 1 toy out and put it back, put stuff away straight away or tidy before leaving .......... he has no idea how hectic my life is, I swear Im going to go off for a week and leave him the kids and a busy schedule and chores, make that 3 weeks for it to really sink in!

Our inlaws also live 5 mins up the road, we had a load of cards through the door today - they called past but didnt bother ringing the bell, although curtains were drawn so maybe they thought we were sleeping, but if they ever do visit us here they stay for 45 mins maximum!
My dad is a waster too, he came the other day after not seeing us for 4 months, no joke he walked in said hi, how are you, sat on the sofa for 3 minutes maximum then said right best go just wanted to show my face. The look on mine and my OH's face must have been a picture, he did that last time too and OH didnt believe me it was 4mins tops. What is up with families??? Do kids suddenly hit 18 and you just stop loving them or wanting to be in their lives? Its crazy!! My mum is fantastic though thank god xx

[Sunset]

chocolate ~ I hope he starts helping out a bit more or that you put your foot down because he cant treat you like that!!
I just find it such a shame that DH's family chooses to treat the boys like trophies and my dh like the black sheep of the family.. my family obviously lives in sweden so my kids can't see them as often, but i know that if we lived in sweden or my mum lived over here she would make a real effort with the kids. I wish dh's parents would make an effort with the boys, but i've resigned myself to the simple fact that they like the "idea" of being grandparents but actually making the effort is a no go. unfortunately it puts a damper on our relationship with them and their relationship with the grandkids.

[Inglewood]

Chocolate, I'd of been so mad too, I must be so lucky as my DH is great around the house and with the kids. For all my MIL is alot of things, she has raised very independant children who can cook, clean etc... prob since she was never there, working lots of jobs when his dad walked out when he was 11. My only gripe with him is £! He doesn't take anything to do with the bills and doesn't understand why I stress out so much over them. God forbid I wasn't here, he wouldn't know where to begin! He gives his full wages to me for the family each wk, minus is cigarette money and lets me get on with it! My Dh usually cooks his own tea and the boys 2/3 times a wk as I rush out to nightshift! Your dh sounds overworked! Does he choose to do so much overtime? Could he cut back a bit to be at home more? I'm guessing u tell him how u feel?

My Eldest SIL hasn't been in my house for 2yrs, dh's twin hasn't been here for 4yrs (her dh beat her, so my dh wouldn't speak to him for 2yrs or let him in our house,so she never came either,they talk now, just).My BIL cane last mth for the 1st time in 2yrs and my MIL comes once a yr to pick up the boys and take them for 2 days, they all come and stay for 2hrs max, after a 2hr drive! My FIL is dh's step dad and a twat that admits he hates the drive thru and once a yr is enough, jeso, we have been going thru wit 2 young kids for yrs and yrs!!! And when we go they moan if we spend more time at 1 house over another and are looking for us to go to 4 different houses in 1 day, miles and miles apart, it's exhausting and we've done it for yrs (like 10!) and 2 of them have only been in my house once in 4yrs being here!! Shocking....dh has had enough and swears each yr we aren't going thru on the 27th, they don't deserve it, like u Sunset, Trophy grandkids!! We will see then at xmas then they will come when babies are born, then prob not see them again till we go to them, which dh says AINT happening with 2 newborns! Families....thank god my parents are great!! Really feel for Dh tho, must be sad for him.

Sunset, good for u doing the last of ur shopping, I still have my Dad and a cousin ( more like a big sis to me), so gonna go food shopping with dh tom, go see a bigger car and 'attempt' a quick town visit!! Your in-laws seem just as rude as mine and chocolates! The joys! eh?

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ at least it's taught me what kind of a MIL/grandmother I don't want to be!! I will always make the effort regardless if it's my daughters children or my sons children, it makes no difference and I intend on having the same relationship with them all and treat them all equally!

[Sunset]

Eek I'm 35 weeks today!!! :D I remember when Petal was 35 weeks and I was getting excited for her to have her baby boy.. can't believe it's nearly my turn to go through childbirth again :p :running:

[indigoviolet]

Morning ladies! :HH:

[Inglewood]

Sunset, 35wks!!!!! after you thinking and expecting a 2012 baby, she could be here in 2011! I've always conceived and gave birth the same yr, this is my 1st pg that I've conceived one yr and gave birth the next. To think it won't be long till she's here! so exciting...

[littlemisswilko]

morning ladies!!! sunset 35 weeks whoop whoop!! not long at all now!

just to let you know i got my SS yesturday morning!!! thank you SS will be opening it on xmas day xxx

[Kell]

Chocolate your dp and mind sound like the same person, we had a massive row last week about how little he does around the house to help me, especially as I started work last week and had college work to do, I needed help and he sat on his arse the whole time and then had the cheek to moan that the house was a mess. I flipped!!
I can't figure out if its that's he's a sexist pig or just pure lazy!
He did get up with the kids today tho which was nice!

We are off to see puss in boots this afternoon! Can't wait to eat lots of I've cream!! :) lol

Yay sunset! 35 weeks!! Not long now!

[Babymad]

Hi Girls......

A hello from me too :)

Busy busy week-end here and completely shattered :)

Yay for 35 weeks Sunset :)

Hope all is well and catch up soon......another 4 days until our schools break up...... I need lazy mornings and no school run before i go crazy!!!! :)

Kisses to you all....nearly time for santa to arrive xxxx

[chocolate]

Kell, sorry your dp sounds like mine lol, glad you got a lay in though, I did too, didnt get up till 950am!!
And then made OH come food shopping too and put away washing ha ha!

Not long till Christmas!! What are you all doing? We are out Christmas Lunch to a pub with about 14 of us, never done that before but just dont want the hassle of cooking while I have young children, also we need a new cooker as it never cooks quick enough so also waiting for a new one.


Wow Sunset, those weeks will fly by :-)

[Lavenderlime]

Must be something in the air because dp has beeen spoiling for an argument all weekend! and I'm too tired to rise to the bait.

Also DP's grandparents rang today saying how 'disgusting' it was that we won't be going to DP's dad's on Christmas day (DP has had Christmas day at his Dad's ever since his parents split when he was about 8). This will be DS1's 5th Christams and the first at home. I just wanted a really chilled, Christmas with no driving, no carting around of toys, watching Christmas telly and staying in pj's until noon.

We live about 25 minutes from DP's dad and his Granparents and we are popping in the day after boxing day. Also they've just had a newborn baby that will be under 2 weeks old on Christmas day so didn't think they'd want the added stress of four other people to feed. Plus I just want to have a go at cooking Christmas dinner even if i'm not going to eat it :D!

FAMILIES!!!

Still no smiley but not losing hope until CD 20 as my last cycle was 34 days instead of 27. Probably a good thing as don't think I could have brought myself to DTD with DP in his mood!!

I got all the presents wrapped last night after work and realised that it looks a little sparse so off to get some more stocking filler bits for the boys tomorrow. 7 days to go!!

[Kell]

Mmmmm Mississippi mud ice cream is yummy! Even if the film wasn't all that it was worth it for the ice cream lol!

Chocolate, dp got up with the kids and made me a nice bacon and egg sandwich for breakfast, then took us to the cinema so he's actually been a good boy today! He's off work with the kids tomorrow as well so should be a little appreciation coming my way soon! Lol

[littlemisswilko]

glad to here youve got dp back into line now kell!! Men just need a little bit of reminder to let them no their place. lol

lavenderlime - i honestly dont know where you find the determination not to be having xmas dinner!!!! u go girl! hope ur attempt come real soon!!

[Lavenderlime]

glad to here youve got dp back into line now kell!! Men just need a little bit of reminder to let them no their place. lol

lavenderlime - i honestly dont know where you find the determination not to be having xmas dinner!!!! u go girl! hope ur attempt come real soon!!

LOL I'm a vegetarian so it's not that big of a deal really, The best part of a roast/Christmas dinner to me used to be roast potatoes but I'm completely traumatised by any kind of potato now lol! The only thing i'll miss over Xmas are the Cadbury's roses! The toffee ones are my favourite and I could eat them all day!

Well My DP isn't doing much to help my sway but is abstaining. He has been for 9 days now and don't think he'll play along for much longer. My CM is very creamy with a little stretch so I think this means OV is just around the corner (hopefully) and it should change to watery and stretchy soon.

I really need some advice,

So I was wondering weather I should go for a cut off and O+12 although I know it won't be a true O+12 because I would have already had an attempt. Sunset I know you did a combo. I just don't want to waste the abstaining? Then maybe frequent release until O+12

Also my opks are really driving me insane I didn't even have a faint line on a cheapie when I tested earlier. And with the creamy CM so i'm thinking i've missed O AGAIN (second time to panic in one cycle).... god I was so chilled about this when I was tracking my cycles and It wasn't all for real. I know OPKs fade in and out but geesh.

So what do you all think?

[charlieispy]

Hey ladies x

been busy and tired sorry not been on x hope you are all ok x sorry alot of you are having family issues or have had - i think xmas brings it up even more as you are meant to see family etc x DH dad is completely rubbish doesnt bother with dh or our kids, my mum is brill, my MIL is pretty good for babysitting for about an hour lol and my dad is ok but his GF I absolutely hate so thats always fun. I have to face DH dad and stepmum on xmas eve....i have already warned him i am tired and hormonal i wont be holding back if they are rude or bitchy to me :D i have no time for them anymore they have none for DH or my boys who they should be proud of and yet show no interest what so ever. Anyway

GOOD LUCK swayers lavender no xmas dinner - i bow to your greatness i would never manage that x Deaks are you swaying too?? GOODLUCK

loving all the preggy tickers :D

Sunset 35weeks omg that is crazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy you little girl is going to be here soon so totally amazing i hope you have some pink ready for her :D

We are off to london tomorrow to the theatre to see gruffalos child just the big boys ds3 is staying with my SIL alreday warned DH i may sleep on the bench seat at the back of the car ;) I went to my xmas party sat night then worked this morning am sooooo tired still havnt started present wrapping.....................maybe tomorrow lol

[littlemisswilko]

hope you have a nice time at the theatre charlie! hope you get some time to rest!

i was in exactly the same dilema as you lavender on wether to do a combo or just a 0+12. my plan was to just do 0+12 as i didnt want waste abstinance and then try for a o+16. But obviously i never managed to sway for this pg. hope you figure out what is best for you

[Sunset]

Wow there's alot of family drama going on at the moment! such a shame as it's christmas time but like charlieispy said, christmas probably brings it out even more.

Lavenderlime ~ I don't believe much in timing methods which is why I decided to do a combo and also because I wanted to try and get as many attempts in as possible to increase my chances of pregnancy. We did abstaining up until my first attempt and then frequent until o+12 :)

Charlieispy ~ hope you have a good time at the theatre :) i've definitely started stocking up on the pink bits :) I feel really terrible but a friend dropped of a bag of her kids gender neutral baby stuff the other day and I didn't want to hurt her feelings so I accepted the bag, but to be honest the last thing in the world I want is gender neutral stuff this time... i've been team green twice already so if anything I have ALOT of white and creams already.. i'm really embarrassed to say, but half the stuff has gone in a charity bag :oops:

[Sunset]

Chocolate ~ we celebrate swedish christmas on the 24th so will be having swedish christmas dinner and then santa will come for a visit and give the kids their presents and then on christmas day we'll be going to dh's parents for the day to celebrate english christmas :)

[chocolate]

Lavenderlime, I would look at your options of timing and then look at how you would feel if you achieved pregnancy by using those methods, if you would be happy with that then go for that timing method.
Personally for me I think Id miss 0+12 so would aim for abstinance with a cut off, then after the cut off I would think about getting OH to do the FR or compressed release whatever that is, just incase the cut off ends up being too far away, then you can have another go around 0 or at 0+12.
So annoying when ovulation isnt predictable and does as you expect!

Kell fell free to send your dp round here to have words with mine lol! He was all right this am and then he flipped again this pm because he forgot to get more dishwasher tablets and didnt want to pop down to the shop to get some more. Then said I make things more complicated than they have to be -he forgot to get them! He is having tantrums as he knows he has taken it all for granted and Im getting strict.

He even didnt get me a birthday card or pressent from him or the boys, it was last Tuesday and he was doing overtime that night, but we were away all weekend and I said hed best get me something from the boys, there were shops on site and he still didnt get anything. He then said hed get something this weekend but I said its the thought that counts so dont bother. I could throttle that man this weekend, wish Id have had an insight into his true colours, but then I wouldnt have my boys so have him to thank for that I guess lol

Sunset I like the idea of 2 christmas's!

We are looking into the panto for DS1 in January, hope you all enjoyed it

[Lavenderlime]

Thanks Ladies,

Well I think I will probably ovulate on CD 20 or there abouts this cycles instead of 15. So will have an attempt tomorrow pm as that will be a 3 day or so cut off then do frequent until O+12. My plan was always to do O+12 one shot but that was when my cycles were regular. Timing is also the least importnat factor so this time I will do two attempts. I know DP will moan if I try and make him wait until Thursday. Ho hum I have been super strict on the diets for about 8 weeks now and now lost a stone so think that'll be my strongest swaying factor. FX

Sunset my sisters are half Latvian and they celebrate Christmas on the 24th and open their presents then too!

Charlie have a lovely time with your older boys!! When's your next scan?

Chocolate I can't believe DP didn't get you a card, men!

[Inglewood]

Evening all, just a quick "Hello" knackered today, went looking for a new car, then food shopping! Wrapped more prez then just thought I'd pop on to see what ur all up to!

Sunset, wow, 2 xmas's, bet the boys love that!

Lavender, hope u Ov soon, it's frustrating and when I used to worry I'd ov even later! My dh was doing freq release, so he used to get fed up after a week or more, once it was 11 days, poor guy!

Chocolate, sorry u didn't even get a card! That must be tough.

Hello to everyone else!! Off to watch a bit of TV then bed. I have my work night out tom night, it's a Take that tribute band and I HATE Take that, but it's a night out and prob my last for the next few yrs!!! lol All my work mates LOVE them, so it will be a good night I'm sure! It's in a lovely hotel by the river. I am Taxi which I don't mind as at least I won't have a hangover this year for the school run!! lol I am wearing a plain black dress and got some black maternity tights, but can't find my high heels!! ahh! Not what I would of normally wear, but the dress is a maternity one, was £18, got it for £4!!! Bargain and I will jazz it up with some nice jewellery. Bought a new lippy, so all set!

Night ladies, catch up tom. xx

[Sunset]

will catch up on your posts in the morning! DS1 has croup!!! :( he was fine this afternoon then when he went to bed he started coughing constantly and hasnt stopped since and wheezing like mad and his breathing just sounds really struggled :( so rang the out of hours doctors and she said "yep that's croup" :( .. it's going to be a loooong night!

[charlieispy]

Lavender my plan was cut off and possibly o+12 but didnt think i would be able to highlight it but then I thought I was oing BD then 3-4 days later got a blazing +OPK!! I ended up with a cutoff of about 14hours before O however I used neat lime and alot of replens and a perfect o+12 so hoping it was a the o+12 sperm that survived I still used neat lime but added it to my mooncup......the dilemnas!! FX you manage your attempt and it all goes well x good luck x

Sunset - hugs hope ds is ok x x i totally understand you not wanting cream....especially becuase you can buy PINK lol i would totally go overboard!! I have £75 in mothercare vouchers i was given by starbucks when i went back after ds3 maternity never used them so keeping them for this baby......oh how i wish i could have a big PINK blow out!! and 2 xmas's FABBBBBBY

inglewood - hope you have a lovely time tonight :D sounds like you have a fantastic outfit for a bargain x hope you find your shoes x

chocolate - wow that is harsh HUGS i must admit i am so so lucky my DH is brilliant at getting presents however he is crap with money so sometimes i would rather he saved some money! But he is very thoughtful - have you talked to hom about does he realise how much he upset you??

indigo - how are you - is your scan this week?

Deaks thinking of you hope you are ok x

My next scan is the 29th of december it should have been this week but the lady who did my 7wk scan put me at 6wks and wouldnt listen to me so i will be over 13wks when i have it done......FX for a good nub shot - should be pretty obvious surely? Although read something on the boards about 14wk nubs not being acurate??

right must go get dressed x x x much love

[HappyLea]

Morning Ladies,

I have alot of catching up on this thread, been very busy with dad coming out of hospital and christmas nativitys and parties etc that i havent had much time to keep up. Sat at the moment waiting to hear news on dad as he got rushed into hospital at 4am this morning unable to breathe, the paramedics done ECG and something on ECG so took him into hospital, they done another and there is something on that also (he had triple heart bypass last week). Just a waiting game at the mo, fx all will be ok.

I had very good chat with dh over last couple of days and decided we will be ttc in March so will start to get everything ready for the swaying. I have read so much about swaying my head is just over run with info i dont know what im doing :confused:

I am currently tracking my cycles and on CD18 i been using cheap OPK tests and yesterday i got faint line think i am going to o soon, tested again this morning and it is considerably darker but not quite the same shade as the control line, does that mean i still haven't ov'd yet? I will test again between 2pm-4pm.
For our sway we are going to start a diet in Jan not strict girl diet but less calories no chocs, sweets etc. Cut out red meat and i will drink more milk etc. We will take suppliment but im not sure which to use, if anyone can point me in right direction that would be great. Dh is happy to take supps also :happy:
I want to start testing my ph and make the neccesary changes but not sure if i can do this as when i have tried to locate my cervix, i cant :worry: I have read that the Ph is abig part of swaying and im worried i wont be able to do anything if i cant test it??!!
We will be trying for O+12 with abstaining and one try, no big O for me with shallow release.

This maybe a loose sway but will it be enough do you think? Is there anything else we could do to better our chances? I dont understand the whole ions and moon thing so wont be doing any of that.
I will start to purchase suppliments and thing soon when i know which to get. Im so excited to actually be doing it but scared at the same time, its so much to take in i confuse myself so easily.
Now i know we will be doing it i am also finding it hard to wait till march.

For those of you who have conceived girls what suppliments did you take if any?

Sorry for long post. Hope your all well. I will start doing some catching up now also :bigsmile:

Leanne x

[deaks66]

Hi all,
Got so much to catch up on here and not sure im going to get the chance this week! Collected my secret santa this morning...VERY exciting.... thanks babymad! Havent opened it so far but it is staring at me saying OPEN ME! so going to have to have lots of will power not to open it!
Sorry to hear a few of you are having probs with lazy dp/h's and stroppy ones too. Mine has been ok so far though a bit more sympathy over my psoariasis would be nice!
Rash has got worse (but then it will for a motnh at least) but me and dh both think its looking less angry and flatter so hopefully it will slowly start to disappear. Had so much support from friends and lots of donations of left over diprobase, emulsyfiying ointment and epsom salts...bless them.
Hoping i will get my smiley this week though this weekend has not been great for my diet, but then i always knew i would have to start to relax it a bit anyway. Gonna test ph today and see what the damage is! fx!
Hope you are all well X

[deaks66]

Apparently no damage done at all. Ph 3.9...will some ew too! :)

Sunset, i would love 2 christmas's! Saying that we are hosting for different people for 4 solid days!

Lavender, your diet/swaying sounds brilliant. I too am debating what to do about timing. Really want to go for o+12 and perhaps and o+14 or 16 but cut off is always on my mind especially if my ph stays low. Hope you opks fade in too....im gonna test today and see where i am. Fx for us both! X

[Petal]

Thanks!! Not telling boys yet. Have booked a 4d scan on 18th jan and they don't know about it! They will find out then and I will let them tell everyone what sex the babies are! So some people know I was gonna ask today, but know I'm not saying till Jan. Only people that know are DH and my parents. Don't trust my in-laws NOT to tell the boys at xmas time when we visit, so better to keep quiet all round.

I LOVE ur pic's on FB, I showed my mum today and she agreed he is the cutest little guy and she said he had such lovely eyes, so bright for being a newborn. Bet ur so proud! Do the boys adore him? Bet they fuss, cuddle and kiss him! Who wouldn't he's so super cute! I hope he's still sleeping well for u and ur not too tired. Yeah for fitting into ur pre-mat jeans u lucky lady!!! Has always taken me mths, even yrs!!

x

Aww thanks Inglwood :-) bless ur mum, i agree, hes soo cute hehe. Yes the boys love him dearly, i hardly ever get to push the pram coz they fight over it lol. Its only this pg ive fitted in my clothes this quick, i think its because i worked so late and my jobs physical, i was huge with ds2 so was determind not to eat all day lol.
Ds3 is a good sleeper, he goes 11-4am every night then 5-7/8 ish. Hope you are keeping well with those percious little girls, have you got any names? sooo exciting :-). Lots of love x x

[indigoviolet]

Chocolate ~ we celebrate swedish christmas on the 24th so will be having swedish christmas dinner and then santa will come for a visit and give the kids their presents and then on christmas day we'll be going to dh's parents for the day to celebrate english christmas :)We do that too! Have half our presents on Swedish christmas after the ham and sil (from the tomte) and then santa comes for English christmas. It is fun to spread it out over a few days, there are always so many presents! I can't wait, I love christmas!!

[indigoviolet]

indigo - how are you - is your scan this week?


Still feeling bad but definitely some improvement since the accupuncture. Got another session on Wednesday so hopefully that will keep me going over Christmas. Yes, have scan Friday, am starting to get nervous....I'm just praying we see a healthy bean.

It is annoying she wouldn't take your word for it, at least you get your scan this year...probably seems like AGES away though, really hope you get to see a great nub (hopefully girlie....eeeekkk!)

Was at playgroup and saw some gorgeous baby girls, gosh the feeling of wanting one for myself is just soooo hard thinking it may never happen, but there is a little hope (at least for another few weeks). They are just too cute, I WANT ONE!!! (please :pray:)

[Petal]

OMG!!! congrats Littlemiss!!! how did i miss this fab news!! congratulations to you and your family :-))) x

[Petal]

Wow babymad, 16 weeks already!!!! When are you finding out the sex?!! the suspence is killing me i tell you!! haha.
Much love to you x x

[Petal]

Ah Indigo!!! you're pregnant too!!!!! Fantastic, big congrats to you too!!!Cant believe ive missed so much, im out of the loop lmao x x

[zanacal]

Hi ladies :D My grandad has given us some money for Christmas and rather than spend it on yet more toys for the boys, I'm wondering about a short holiday in the Easter holidays (one of the Featherdown Farm holidays we were talking about recently!). I'll be 34 weeks pregnant though - would you do it? I've never had a baby early and it'll only be for 3 nights, just a couple of hours from home. I've looked through the catalogue and discounted any of the farms which have Spring lambing (not for pregnant women!). What do you think?

[Inglewood]

Just a quick "hi" getting ready for my nightout, but promise to read properly tomorrow!! Hate not even seeing how u guys all are!

had a rotten day with ds1 and this boy, dh having 'work' issues and my in-laws still huffy! Hope I can relax tonight :)

Catch up tom, night ladies.... xx

[Lavenderlime]

Inglewood have a great night, your outfit sounds lovley. Hope you can have some you time enjoy the festivities and relax!

Hello Petal!:)

Zanacal I would 100% say go for it even at 34 weeks. It really is a very chilled holiday, The only PITA was walking to the showers but if the weathers nice it shouldn't be as bad. I really enjoyed cooking on the log burner, and snuggling up by lantern and candle light in the evenings. The boys loved the farm and being able to run around in the huge field, our day trips. The beds are really comfy too and your boys will love the cupboard bed!

Thank you all so much for offering advice reassurance on my sway! It means so much thanks. Don't know what i'd do without you ladies.:)

[deaks66]

Inglewood have a great time tonight!
Lavender, you and i are at simiar stages of our cycles...i find this bit so exciting!
Zanacal, i would def book one of those holidays...will be something to look forward to if the third tri is dragging a bit!
Finally got round to some wrapping!

[charlieispy]

zanacal i would go for it x sounds like a lovely idea x I was overdue during lamb season with ds2 and we took ds1 to a farm its ok as long as you dont touch them but understand not wanting to stay on a farm with them. Book it ;) it will be fun....i still cant believe i have booked a holiday for 6weeks after button is due all will be fine though :D

[indigoviolet]

Goodnight all, heading to bed, feeling wiped out.
:HH: Sleep well

[Sunset]

Evening ladies!

HappyLea ~ omg how scary! I hope your dad is ok!!!! There are a few ladies who are waiting to ttc until March so you won’t be alone :) I do believe both Chocolate and Wishing4pink is planning on swaying then :)
The test line has to be as dark or darker than the control line for the test to be positive so i would say it was probably negative this morning. When it’s positive it’s usually very obvious :)
I think if you are happy with your sway plan then it will definitely be a good sway! For my sway I took calcium citrate, magnesium, cranberry and vitex supps. I could locate my cervix but could never quite work out when exactly i was ovulating by cervix position alone so i used to rely more on my cm and temp shifts to work out approximately when o+12 happened. To test your ph you will need to collect a little cm high up in your v. It doesn’t necessarily have to be right from the cervix if you cant find it but don’t use cm from the entrance as that will be very acidic. I used to insert a menstrual cup for half an hour to get a good sample to test :agree:

Deaks ~ oh your rash sounds so terrible! I hope it’s not too uncomfortable for you! Good luck with your attempt this month! Are you planning on doing a true o+12? Will you be using any lime or aci gel?
4 days :P i think it’s safe to say you’ll be celebrating Christmas more than us this year ;)

Petal ~ it’s so nice to hear from you again! Glad to hear he is sleeping well for you! :)

Indigoviolet ~ i know you’ve told me before but forgive my terrible memory, are you Swedish? I’m wondering because you seem to have alot of Swedish traditions in your family and you seem to understand alot of Swedish? Unfortunately i don’t like sill :p but the Christmas ham, meatballs and potatoes can’t go wrong :D
good luck at your scan on Friday! I’ll be stalking!

Zanacal ~ If you’ve never gone early before i wouldn’t worry if it’s only for 3 days. Personally because of ds2 being born at 36 weeks i wouldn’t dare going away on holiday in my 3rd trimester.

Inglewood ~ enjoy tonight! I hope you have a good time!!

Hello to everyone else!! :) i’ve spent over an hour wrapping presents tonight.. i don’t think i’ll ever feel my legs again haha

[HappyLea]

Thanks Sunset - Dad is back home now after lots of tests turns out its a throat infection that was affecting his breathing and the dont know what the blip was on ECG but all his test came back ok which is good.

With everything with dad today i forgot to do another OPK between 2-4pm but just done one now and it is very nearly the same shade but maybe not quite 100% same shade but going in the right direction to get a + one soon i also getting what i think is o pains in my lower back.

I have just read about the menstrual cup on another thread also and think i will give that ago, its nice to know that it does have to come right from cervix entrance. Just looking at getting some of the supps and holland and barrett have a sale on the vitex :bigsmile: sucker for a bargain...lol!

Im excited to be getting ready to actually do this...eeek!!!

[Kell]

Hey guys!
I'm so exsausted from having the boys all weekend I'm just popping in to say hi!

Inglewood have a good night out!

Zanacal the holiday sounds like a great idea!

I'm off to bed! Need some beauty sleep!

[zanacal]

Thanks all, now to twist DH's arm :D

[HappyLea]

well quick update before i go to sleep, i had few o pains earlier and still getting them now. so i thought i would try and check cm (i still didnt find cervix) but i got some ewcm. I think i may just get the hang of tracking my cycle yet.

does ewcm come before ov or after? as OPKs today are much darker but a shade or so lighter than control line. Am i right in think i may actually ov in early hours??

Inglewood ~ hope your night out was fab

Zanacal ~ the holiday sounds great

Goodnight all x

[pinga]

zanacal - holiday would prob be fine. I'd just make sure I'd worked out all the hospital options nearby. I got married at 32 weeks and he stayed put despite all the excitement. was dancing all night too :)

Well I'm sure I've missed loads!! My brother has left now - he's gone on to stay with my sister in Sydney. Was lovely to meet my little niece - shes only 18 months with blonde crazy curly hair! Must admit I did get sad a couple of times when I was hanging out all her little girly washing.... thinking I wonder if I'll ever get to do this.

There was a program on cable here the other evening and I finally got around to watching it. It was called "8 boys and wanting a girl". It was an English show... mentioned IG and PGD. It was really good to see actually... and interesting to see what the men said about the situation.

How are everyones Christmas plans going? I can't believe its only in a few days. Was rushing round this moring buying a couple of last minute things. I think I'm finally done though.

Hope everyone is going well...

[charlieispy]

Hi all

Sounds like we are all busy getting ready for xmas x sunset hope you got the feeling back in your legs ;) i sat and wrapped presents for a couple of hours last night too was feeling really sick so not my best wrapping! Still have a few joint presents for the boys to wrap and ds2 bike!!!!

Inglewood - how was your night out hope it was fun and you are not too tired this morning x

Zanacal - hope you get that holiday booked x x

pinga - how lovely but so hard to have a little girl about the house FX for your very own x x what are you having for xmas dinner - bbQ??

Deaks - hope the rash is still improving not long till your attempt? FX for you hun you really deserve a sticky BFp

(BTW cant do capital p's as ds3 has fiddled with puter and it pops up a virtual keyboard!)

Littlemiss - how are you feeling

indigo - hope you arent too tired and sick

Kell - you too x was DH working all weekend? Mine often does and i find it really hard

maybe - how are you hope bump is doing well x are the boys excited for xmas

London was fantastic the theatre only took us just over an hour to get to but parking was ridiculous in the end DH dropped us off and parked in a disabled spot (other people were doing this too) glad he didnt tell me till the end or i would have screwed! Was shattered though - DH let me sleep in the afternoon which was good as I HAD to start the wrapping kept meaning to but so totally washed out once the boys are in bed. Only have a few bits left now.
Had a moment in bed listening to the boys being boys and discussing which DVD to watch - all boy ones of course and thought oh god please let me have a pink one in my belly - i just want someone to share girly stuff with and to feel not so totally alone and alien in a house of blue...........although i am sure I will produce another boy! My friend had her first yesterday too and beautiful little girl........<sigh> anyway enough of that

any plans for the holidays before the big day? We are about to make gingerbread x tomorrow have to go food shopping and deliver cards etc x thurs/fri no plans as of yet

[Sunset]

HappyLea ~ glad to hear all the tests came back normal! I can only imagine how worried you must all have been! Ewcm is very individual i would say. I always got ewcm several days before ov so i’m not much help there lol if you’ve had 2 what looks like +opk’s you might well be ovulating soon. Is this your first cycle tracking ov?

Zanacal ~ did you manage to twist his arm? ;)

Kell ~ hope you manage to get some zZz

Inglewood ~ hope you had a good time last night!

Pinga ~ good to hear from you again! I can imagine it must have been hard to have a little girl in the house, but who knows you might be cooking your own daughter ;) i’m terrible, i’ve still got to buy my DH as Christmas present.. but in my defence he’s ridiculously hard to buy for!

Charlieispy ~ i did finally feel my legs again :p i think from now on i’ll have to sit at the table and wrap presents instead of on the floor. It was a bad idea! Glad you enjoyed the theatre! :) aww don’t lose hope yet, i didn’t think i was cooking a pink one, but it seems I am and I have got a pink feeling for you!!! ;) i still can’t believe you’re gonna stay team green and keep me waiting :p eek! I admire you so much for not giving into curiosity!!
No plans really, i’m busy tidying the house so it looks somewhat presentable when we have guests on Saturday. Ds1 is still poorly with croup so we’re having lazy days in at the moment. I need to go food shopping tomorrow as well.. should be fun *not*. I tried to book a delivery slot online, but was I a fool to think there would be any available at this time of the year :rofl: so i will just have to brave the supermarket lol

I'm going to see the midwife this afternoon to check my blood pressure again and hopefully it will behave :)

[chocolate]

Hey everyone, not long till Christmas!!!

Im wrapping tonight, will not do wrapping on Christmas Eve, takes so much longer than expected and Christmas Eve I get all the pressies out and decorate the room with tacky xmas decorations and say the elves did it :-)

OH has been back to work and I made him sleep on the sofa for 2 nights (good job it isnt ttc months) he just doesnt seem to ever get my points unless he gets a punishment! I jokingly made him a good behaviour reward chart too lol.

My friend is off for a scan today, she is early pregnancy and started spotting yesterday and it hasnt stopped, she has had miscarriages before but has a boy and a girl so really hoping its just one of those things. I miscarried on the 29th December just after Christmas, miscarriages are awful but around Chrsitmas just adds to it :-( Fingers are crossed for her.
Made me realise to def. go back under the specialists care so I will get monitored and early scans as my risk goes up to 40% by just having PCOS. Life can be very cruel but trying to remember people who are worse off and cant have children, have a lot to be grateful for this Christmas :-)

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls!!!

Chocolate - hope you friends okay and its nothing to worry about

charlie - im fine thanks. No sickness etc. im quite lucky with my pgs as i have never had any m/s or anything. just sometimes suffer with a mega breakout all over my face but only had the odd few, nothing major.

Zanacal - the easter holiday sounds fab. get you dp told. it will be wonderfull.

lavender lime/ Deaks - not long till attempts???? are you all prepared???

glad to hear you all are pretty much prepared for xmas! i havent managed to buy any xmas pressy's for other family members yet! only managed the boys. i think im going to have to do it tomorrow for definate! i hate being behind with things!

[charlieispy]

I didnt know having PCOS made you more high risk - i have PCOS too x FX for healthy sticky beans for all - your friend too

[chocolate]

Hey, sorry Charlie dont worry, I think its more to do with sugar levels and stuff but the hurdle being getting pregnant etc.

Sad news - my friend's pregnancy stopped at 6 weeks, she is 9 weeks by dates and is just waiting for the miscarriage to start. Sad times!!


Well, I got a positive test result this evening, at 9dpo???!!!Quads?! I said ov pains were so bad and both sides!
I have posted a thread on the main section but am not hopeful as temps are sinking a lot, but Im ok, Im not getting excited as know how often and easily chemicals/miscarriages happen, especially after my friend's loss today. Will not be telling her for as long as possible, not the thing you want to hear whilst waiting to miscarry. Timing sucks!

[charlieispy]

Omg congrats hun both ds 2 & 3 were 9dpo bfps x this one i got a v faint line 8dpo didn't test 9dpo and then 10dpo got. bfp and digi pregnant x fx for a healthy happy pregnancy x

so sorry for you friend mc are so cruel :(

[charlieispy]

12wks tomorrow :) found buttons heartbeat with my doppler again today...it keeps me sane x over done it though feel so tired and been sick twice poor dh no dinner cooked lucky he stopped to get wine to take to my mums xmas day and got himself a pizza!

[deaks66]

Congrats chocolate, i really hope this is a sticky bfp for you :) But very sad news about your friend, especially right before christmas :(

[deaks66]

oh charlie, poor you! did you have ms with your boys?

[chocolate]

Thank you, think last positives were about 12dpo, felt pregnant like 3 or 4dpo as in almost sick, then nothing, then last day or so just sore boobs, then these chest veins went really blue which is a huge sign for me so thought Id test and couldnt believe it!

Although my chart temps look awful, and had a 9 day luteal phase last month, but am presuming that doesnt matter now implantation has happenned. However, I am preparing for the worst but would like that to happen sooner rather than later if possible! Will call fertility specialist in the am and ask for a 7 week scan.

I guess if there is a progesterone problem causing temps to fall then its already a lost cause so isnt anything I could do to improve my odds now. So glad Ive been eating lots this week and had vegies tonight and took multivitamin.

[chocolate]

I know Deaks, doubly awful as she should be enjoying this time with her kids not waiting for that to happen, want to cry for her! My miscarriage happenned a few days after Christmas,but at least I enjoyed Christmas day with my boys. So so sad.


Glad you found the heartbeat Charlie, I used to check constantly!

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Oh no so sorry for your friend chocolate :(

[charlieispy]

oh charlie, poor you! did you have ms with your boys?

Yes but different a lot worse this time and although ill today it has been almost worse but shorter time scale x also sick if i don't eat never had that before x

[Kell]

Chocolate so sorry for your friend, poor thing!
But congrats on your bfp, I hope it sticks Hun!

Charlie I'm desperate to get a Doppler! Which one do you have?

Managed to sleep quite well yesterday, I'm so not ready for Christmas, need to sort out all the stocking bits, get a couple of things for dp and do some of the family as well. Starting work before Christmas has really got in the way of Christmas this year! On a positive I am so busy with work I don't realise I'm feeling pregnant at all lol

Lol no dp wasn't working, but I tend to do all of the child caring, cleaning, cooking etc etc like a good little house wife that I'm suppose to be, it's exhausting especially when they are all together!

Anyway off to bed again, zzzzzzzzzzzz. Night!

[indigoviolet]

Chocolate- eeekkk!!! congrats!!!!! praying this is a sticky healthy bean :pray:

I am in the same situation as one of my BF has been ttc for SO long finally got pg (I'd just got my positive too but didn't want to tell her as this was her moment and I just wanted to be excited for her) but then she unfortunately m/c about 10 days ago. I am SO gutted for her and have spent a long time crying on the phone with her. Now don't know when to say that I am pg, like you said, timing sucks.

Anyway, huge congrats to you and hoping you have a H&H pg :HH:

[indigoviolet]

Yes but different a lot worse this time and although ill today it has been almost worse but shorter time scale x also sick if i don't eat never had that before x
I was searching on the internet about m/s as I'm sure mine has never been this bad either, and on (I think it was) Babycentre the first reason they give for possible m/s is that you have a female baby! I have never heard this and I'm sure there are LOTS of opposites but it has given me a teeny bit of hope. :pray: this is true for us!!

[Inglewood]

Chocolate, YEAH!!! CONGRATULATIONS!! Fx for a sticky bean. Sorry to hear about ur friend, that's esp sad at xmas. x

I had a lovely night out, but got home at 0130hrs, bed by 2am, Dh woke me leaving for work at 0530hrs then I couldn't get back to sleep till 7am, then was up at 8am!. So I took the boys to school and breakfast then went to bed for a supposed 'nap'... 10am-2pm!!! lol Was shattered! Had a lovely meal and a wee dance, although I felt MEGA embarrased on the dance floor and these 2 girls I'm sure were sniggering! It wasn't like I was pole dancing or being stupid, think I danced to about 5 songs the whole night, but it made me feel crap! One of my work collegue who has 3 boys kept saying "Oh, here's a seat for u and ur boys" (meaning the twins are boys). Her and I spoke yrs ago about both wishing we had girls, so she kinna knows I would love girls. Felt it was a bit heartless of her to say it a few times and say "it's boys to me" a few times. She was a midwife about 10yrs ago and got my pg with ds2 right he was a boy, even when I thought he was a girl. So I REALLY REALLY hope these are girls to prove her wrong this time! My next scan is 28th Dec, will be asking again! Made me feel a bit :( incase they got it wrong and they are boys.

Annoyed one of ds1'a main prez hasn't arrived for xmas and prob won't now! It's a aluminium remote controlled helicopter, was £25, so hope I'm not hunting in town for one and waiting for my refund, which will take wks as it was thru ebay, so u can imagine!!! The boys HUGE bean bag won't be here either, even tho I ordered it wks ago...so annoying!

How cute is Petal's DS3!!!! Inside the santa hat, what a cutie!! And to be in the pampers xmas book! She must be so chuffed!

Charlie, I was gonna buy a doppler, but with 2 in there and my heart, it might get too confusing!!! lol

Sunset, I'm like u with the xmas food shop...daft to think I could get it delievered this late. So nightshift tom, so thurs is a no go day, so Fri for me it is....wishing u luck!! Dreading it!!!

Deaks and Lavender, FX for those attempts!!

My friend had a girl today! Has a boy and a girl already.Will be so nice to see another new baby soon!

Off to show Dh all the xmas gifts we have for the boys and hope it looks enough!

Nite all. x

[Sunset]

Hi ladies, lots to catch up on. Just wanted to update you all quickly and let you know my midwife appointment didn't go well this afternoon and i've just been released from hospital. They're not happy with my blood pressure and i'm also anemic so i've been put on medication to manage my blood pressure as well as iron tablets and i have to go back on thursday again to do a new "profiling" with blood tests and hourly blood pressure checks. fun fun!
hope you're all well! off to get some zZz xx

[Kell]

Oh sunset hope your bfp starts to behave! Sorry you had to stay in, I suppose it's good that they do that especially if they are a little worried, best to be safe. I usually have to have iron tables they are a delight lol!

Inglewood glad you had a good night out, I remember going out pregnant with Charlie and thinking people were looking at me etc but actually nobody was bothered I was just a little insecure in the setting I guess!
I too will be a late food shopper, think I might go tonight and see what's about its 24 hour so can go anytime!

I ended up telling dp's sister I was pregnant at the weekend, she's had problems ttc and I was scared. She was fine, obviously upset but understanding, she knew we were ttc anyway. I guess it's a bit more difficult with mc involved, I hope your friends are both ok x

[charlieispy]

Sunset x big hugs i hope the meds work you poor thing try nd rest if at all possible x

Kell i got the angel sounds doppler wasn't expensive and has lasted ds 2 & 3 & this one x

inglewood yay for a good time sorry the lady kept saying boys bet it is because she would be jealous of girls.

[charlieispy]

I havnt told my sister yet who had the termination not sure how i will waiting for after xmas and nt scan x
plum baby :)

[charlieispy]

Indigo yes bad ms is meant to b girl although i have friends who had worst ms with boys....my pregnancy with ds 2 was opposite of 1 & 3 but still boy ahhhhh why can't we pick pink lol fx for pink hun

[indigoviolet]

Charlie- yay for plum baby!
I've been thinking of when you will tell your sis, another really hard situation. Praying it goes OK for you and she is OK too. How is she?

sunset- you poor thing, hope the meds can control your bp, try to take it easy and praying you stay out of hosp.

[Inglewood]

Charlie, yeah a plum baby!! I love my fruit ticker!!! Tough one with your sister, sure she'll be happy for u. How does she feel about it now? x

Sunset, saw ur facebook status, what a shame. I had high BP with ds2 the last wk or 2 of my pg so had to have bloods done etc.. Had a terrible headache because of it! Hope it behaves itself soon and Iron tabs too, gosh, at least they are all for the good of u and baby!!

[Inglewood]

Indigo, my worst sickness was in this pg, prob being twins, but lasted 14wks, with ds1 I was fine, no sickness ever and with ds2 I was sick until 18wks!! ALL day. So for me each pg is so different, but some women have terrible pg's with sickness and it's because it's girl babies. I heard if ur mother had it bad u will too??? My mum never had sickness at all!! I've had it twice. Fx for u it's because it's a pink bean. You will need to get a pg ticker!! x

[Inglewood]

Off to school nativity play!!! Love it!! x

[chocolate]

Sunset - fingers crossed for you with your blood pressure, Ive always had low blood pressure if anything but it did rise a little towards the end with DS2 and even that worried me!

Kell I got a doppler off of ebay, worth checking every few days, got one with the heart rate display as I was crap at deciding who's was who!

Indigo - I felt queasy with my boys but was only sick once later in pregnancy! Am a baby with sickness so although Id feel reassured to have sickness Id hate every sick feeling, yuck!!

Charlie - yes announcements arent easy especially to friends with tricky experiences.

Ive asked for a progesterone test and hcg, was worried going at 10dpo would not show anything but a quick google showed others had it done then. My temps dipped again today, but have sore boobs and a darker test line so just hoping results come back quick incase there is a progesterone issue. Still, thankful to get pregnant quickly as I know others who it takes ages for so am being grateful for that :-)

4 days till Christmas!!

[maybebabythree]

Yay! Congratulations chocolate! H&h 9 months x

[Sunset]

Chocolate ~ wow, have I missed a bfp!! Congratulations!! :D :cheer: how are you feeling? I got my bfp 9dpo! Sorry to hear about your friend, what a terrible thing to happen so close to Christmas :(

Charlieispy ~ yay for 12 weeks!! You’ll soon be in the 2nd trimester :D i really hope your nausea eases up soon.. it sounds horrible ((hugs))

Littlemisswilko ~ I know the feeling! I still have to buy for my dh! He’s the only one left though, but with all that’s going on with my bp and hospital appointments it’s all a bit stressful lol i’m hoping to get out on Friday to buy the last few Christmas presents.

Indigoviolet ~ I’m so sorry to hear about your friend! That is bad timing :( when are you planning on telling her?

Inglewood ~ glad to hear you enjoyed your night out! But yes I agree that it was a bit heartless of your wok colleague to say that to you, and repeatedly as well. Sounds like she’s suffering GD and is hoping you’ll have boys. GD is such a terrible thing and makes jealousy rear its ugly face, so try not to let her comments bother you ((hugs))
I have to say I wasn’t surprised when they said i’m anaemic as i’ve been craving ice lately and love the feeling of sponges a bit too much for comfort :rofl: i’ve also been very tired which i just put down to being ready to pop, but at least i think it makes sense now :)

Kell ~ glad to hear your SIL took the news ok! My dp’s brother and his wife have been trying for a baby for over 2 years now and they didn’t take the news of my pregnancy well at all.

[chocolate]

Thanks Sunset, yes yesterday at 9dpo - just had the tell tale signs for me which is sore boobs and my chest looked like an AA map, bright veins everywhere! Have
had a progesterone and hcg test today but no doubt results wont be in till Wed. next week as its Christmas. My temp just keeps falling and had 9 day lp last month so slightly concerned. But this time Im prepared and not counting my chickens at all. Have a scan booked for 9th Jan at 6 weeks. So glad I was referred back to the fertility clinic as it means I get these tests and scans which is fab for peace of mind.
Hope to wake up knackered and sick tomorrow lol - not!!

Hope your enjoying the nativity Inglewood. Pre-school ended last week so a very quiet week,I childmind but only worked a few hours this week, feels too quiet! Nice to go for walks or drives to see the decorations though, and McDonalds drive through is making some good cash from me, making up for the lack of meat and chips lol. Although am loving the veg too

[charlieispy]

chocolate stop temping!! it will only cause worry x FX for a healthy sticky bean yay for booking scan now step away from the BBT x

[indigoviolet]

Sunset- i am half swedish so have always celebrated swedish christmas on the 24th and done all the traditions, lucia, making pepparkakor, saffrons bullar etc, I love it! We have spent all summer there every year of my life so I feel very at home there and miss it. I bet you do too?

[Sunset]

Chocolate ~ sorry to hear you're worried, but please try not to temp as that will only make you worry more! i'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's a sticky bean for you! :)

Indigoviolet ~ I remember you saying now :) do you speak fluent swedish as well? :) I definitely miss it yes, but i've lived here for 6 years nearly so i can't say I think of Sweden as "home" anymore..

[chocolate]

ha ha thanks ladies, know what you mean! But would like to temp just in case it can reflect a progesterone issue and give the specialists something to go on. Have stopped googling stuff now though lol.

[Babymad]

Hi from me :)

So sorry not been about, just so busy and evenings still my worst part of the day so not getting much done!!
Been very sick again tonight so feel dreadful :(

Promise to catch up properly before Santa arrives xxx

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Evening ladies,

Chocolate yay congrats hope you have a happy and healthy nine months :heart:

Sunset i was supposed to take iron tablets with dd but midwife was happy with me taking spa tone instead a very good iron supplement but without the side effects of an iron tablet, might be worth asking about.

Indigo your swedish christmas on 24th sounds great we also have a second christmas on 6th January for ukraninan christmas where all the family comes together for a 12 course meal!! Have to say though the first course is a tiny square piece of bread and I dont like all the courses so dont eat it all~!!!

[Petal]

Congrats Chocolate!!! wow, so many bfp's right now!!

Sunset, hope ur bp goes down, soon be time for your little princess to arrive yippeeee!!!!
Inglwood, glad you enjoyed your xmas party, i reckon your work friend would be jealous of the girls, are you gonna tell people the sex later on or keep it a secret?
Thanks for your comment on ds3 in his santa hat, bless him :-)

4 more sleeps!!!!! x x

[Lavenderlime]

Just a quick one as have had a hectic couple of days and am super tired.

Chocolate congratulations on your BFP right before Christmas too! Try not to worry. x

Thank you to my secret santa a parcel arrived today with a card. x

Sunset hope your ok I got signed off of work for a month with aneamia with ds1 a mixture of spa tone and tablets worked for me, the tablets are awful though!

Hello to everyone else!!

Right off to bed, night.

[Inglewood]

Morning all, nipped away from work early today, had time in leiu and work was quiet :)

Petal, I will tell most people after my 4d scan, told girls at work they couldn't tell us yet, so decided to wait for my 4d. But last night a workmate said that they make more mistakes saying 'girls' that turn out to be boys!!!! OMG! talk about panic, I was worried as it was, now I'm super desp for my scan on 28th Dec, 10th Jan and then my 4d to have it confirmed or not again and again. She didn't mean anything by it, was just saying to me she can understand I didn't want to know till my 4d. She was the ONLY one at work that knew I was kinna 'swaying' only because she's the girl that successfully did it herself after 2 boys and told me where to start! You must be so proud of ur boy!! Famous!!! x

Chocolate, I'd be like u googling daft and temping, but try not to worry! Charlie's right, maybe stop and just occupy urself with xmas till ur results which I'm sure will be fine :)

Sunset, think my workmate did/does maybe have GD, although her boys are 14, 17, 20... Really hope I'm proving her wrong this time FX, still too scared to believe they might be girls, actually terrifies me to believe it and they have got it wrong!

Babymad, Sorry to hear ur sick bing sick :( That's a shame. Were u sick this long with the boys?? Can't believe ur 17wks now!!! will u ask in 3 wks the sex? When is ur 20wk scan?

Ds2 has his school party today, so gonna make myself useful by ironing his clothes. No piont in going to bed, boys will be up in an hour, will wait and go once they are at school.

Catch up later ladies, I'm 21wks today!! 2 bananas!!! Yeh!! have a good day! x

[chocolate]

Morning, I'm sure you will def. Hear girls again inglewood :-) my sil was told boy and 2 weeks later was told another girl! It was a gp that scanned her origionally! I'm sure at the stage you were they are almost always right, I'd feel the same though which is why I don't think I'd find out this time and wouldn't allow myself to believe girl. My temp rose slightly this am :-) had prog. And hcg test yesterday and will do hcg again friday so relieved ill have an indication. I think I'm all wrapped for christmas now, forgot how long it takes!

[Kell]

You girls are all so organised, I've got so much more shopping to do its quite scary really because I've got no chance to do any of it without my boys around! And I really need to, ds2 not so bad because he's only 2 and doesn't pay any attention, ds1 is 8 and knows exactly what's going on!

Going to get my hair done this morning, then to see a friend with the kids, then I'm suppose to be going to a butchers about 45 mins away to get meat, then town to buy Christmas presents for my sister, then possibly an asda shop later this evening and some where in between I need to feed my family and clean my house! Fun times!!!

[Lavenderlime]

Morning,

Last night I had period type pains right in the middle of my pubic bone and a light pulling sensation from the back at about 12pm that lasted until I fell asleep it was gone this a.m.
Do you think this is anything to do with TTC or something else? I have been googling it and coming up with all sorts of awful posibilities lol.
I had a negative on a digital OPK in the morning and didn't get another chance to test in the afternoon yesterday. Will test again in a minute. I had an attempt on Monday night if that helps at all.

In my head i'm hoping it has something to do with ovulation and the hopefully waiting sperm. But I know this is probably wishful thinking!

I hope you all have a lovely day. I have some friends coming to visit from Bristol today that I haven't seen for years or so one of them now lives in Aus.

Kell what a hectic day!

Inglewood It is true about them often get girls wrong but they had two to check with you so if they were boys i'm sure one of them would have been flashing their bits. A friend of mine was told girl twice at both her 20 week scans and had two boys. She eventually had a girl though last year!

[deaks66]

Ah lavender what a pain for you! my ov is slightly delayed too...typical as i really didnt want to ov over christmas! was hoping it would be done and dusted by then :( FX we both get a +opk today!

Hi everyone else! X

[charlieispy]

Fx you o soon ladies x and have lovely bfps for new year

[chocolate]

Kell, I think it would be take-away night! Can you do the shopping once kiddies are in bed? Some shopping centres may be open late.

Lavenderlime I hope Ovulation happens soon for you, I usually get twinges around the ovaries the day or so before ovulation.

Deaks fingers crossed for you too, very frustrating!


I feel awful for my friend, she thought she miscarried properly last night, was really heavy and she fainted and couldnt sit up without feeling faint. In the end she went to hospital and they said some of it was leftover and tried to remove it but couldnt so got an op tomorrow. She's being brave but so awful, especially at this time of year.

[Kell]

Oh chocolate your poor friend!

Well I'm half way done, feeling really sick tho so I hope I can carry on, just chilling at home with the boys for a little while before round two.
I can probably do the food shop tonight but the rest of the shops close at 8 tonight and dp isn't home from work till about 7 maybe later. I'll get there just be exhausted for a few days after lol!

[charlieispy]

Oh chocolate your poor friend x i had an erpc its not pleasant but hopefully will mean your friend can be at home for xmas x so sad x

Kell hope you make it through x

[Sunset]

Hi ladies. I won't be going home from hospital tonight :( I've got pre eclampsia so basically they're keeping me in tonight and I will have a scan tomorrow morning and we'll see what happens from there. It all depends on what my blood pressure decides to do but basically I have to prepare for an induction and they won't let me go past 37 weeks.. Feeling quite down at the moment.. Worst timing of the year!

[Kell]

Oh sunset I'm sorry hun, you may have a Christmas day baby! That could be quite cool! You'd have to call her Mary tho lol!
I hope things settle down, Unfortunatly I think things only get worse not better, it's good they are keeping an eye on you to be sure tho!
Hugs to you xxx

[Sunset]

Yes unfortunately it's only going to get worse and the only treatment is delivery so I've been told to prepare for an induction within the next week/ week and a half.. I just can't believe there's a chance I won't get to celebrate christmas with my boys :( it's enough to make the water works start.. I'm such an emotional wreck at the moment

[charlieispy]

OMG sunset you poor thing x I cant imagine how emotional you are right now x however glad they have picked up on this and if you do end up in hospital over xmas it will be the best thing for you and baby and you will have to have a belated xmas. Not saying that is easy at all hun but you have to look after yourself and the little lady x FX you are allowed home though

[Lavenderlime]

Sunset massive hugs! Just think you'll get to meet your gorgeous daughter very soon! xx

[maybebabythree]

So sorry sunset. How bad is it? If they don't induce asap then maybe you could ask to go home just for Xmas morning. When I had it me and few other ladies did beg for discharge and get it. But in my case I was seen by a midwife daily at home and on bp beds and complete bed rest. I only made about three four days before is was caught and admitted again. But I had no kids to run around after back then. If your doing the 24 hour wee thing then you might be induced before that. From what I saw if you was asked to collect your wee you was induced or sectioned the next day. Fx it really stinks I know but the main thing right now is yours and baby's health x

[chocolate]

Yes I'm hoping she will be on the mend for christtmas day, she said she feels better already. Sunset sorry your having a tough time, hope u get to celbrate christmas with your kids one way or another and you manage to enjoy some of it x

[Babymad]

Hey, sorry Charlie dont worry, I think its more to do with sugar levels and stuff but the hurdle being getting pregnant etc.

Sad news - my friend's pregnancy stopped at 6 weeks, she is 9 weeks by dates and is just waiting for the miscarriage to start. Sad times!!


Well, I got a positive test result this evening, at 9dpo???!!!Quads?! I said ov pains were so bad and both sides!
I have posted a thread on the main section but am not hopeful as temps are sinking a lot, but Im ok, Im not getting excited as know how often and easily chemicals/miscarriages happen, especially after my friend's loss today. Will not be telling her for as long as possible, not the thing you want to hear whilst waiting to miscarry. Timing sucks!

Congrats!! Great news x

[Babymad]

Evening ladies,

Chocolate yay congrats hope you have a happy and healthy nine months :heart:

Sunset i was supposed to take iron tablets with dd but midwife was happy with me taking spa tone instead a very good iron supplement but without the side effects of an iron tablet, might be worth asking about.

Indigo your swedish christmas on 24th sounds great we also have a second christmas on 6th January for ukraninan christmas where all the family comes together for a 12 course meal!! Have to say though the first course is a tiny square piece of bread and I dont like all the courses so dont eat it all~!!!

Thats good to know as my iron levels are always low in pg and I get very dizzy and out of breath...where did you buy them?

[Babymad]

Morning all, nipped away from work early today, had time in leiu and work was quiet :)

Petal, I will tell most people after my 4d scan, told girls at work they couldn't tell us yet, so decided to wait for my 4d. But last night a workmate said that they make more mistakes saying 'girls' that turn out to be boys!!!! OMG! talk about panic, I was worried as it was, now I'm super desp for my scan on 28th Dec, 10th Jan and then my 4d to have it confirmed or not again and again. She didn't mean anything by it, was just saying to me she can understand I didn't want to know till my 4d. She was the ONLY one at work that knew I was kinna 'swaying' only because she's the girl that successfully did it herself after 2 boys and told me where to start! You must be so proud of ur boy!! Famous!!! x

Chocolate, I'd be like u googling daft and temping, but try not to worry! Charlie's right, maybe stop and just occupy urself with xmas till ur results which I'm sure will be fine :)

Sunset, think my workmate did/does maybe have GD, although her boys are 14, 17, 20... Really hope I'm proving her wrong this time FX, still too scared to believe they might be girls, actually terrifies me to believe it and they have got it wrong!

Babymad, Sorry to hear ur sick bing sick :( That's a shame. Were u sick this long with the boys?? Can't believe ur 17wks now!!! will u ask in 3 wks the sex? When is ur 20wk scan?

Ds2 has his school party today, so gonna make myself useful by ironing his clothes. No piont in going to bed, boys will be up in an hour, will wait and go once they are at school.

Catch up later ladies, I'm 21wks today!! 2 bananas!!! Yeh!! have a good day! x

Thanks hun x I was this sick with the boys so not surprised but its still hard going! I am hoping not to find out, thinking bubs will be a boy and I would prefer to wait until he arrives to know rather then be upset for 20 weeks knowing....I have always bonded instantly with my boys so feel lucky but we did find out with DS2 (I knew he was boy as soon as i did the pg test!) and I had a difficult 20 weeks so I don't want to repeat that! If I thought bubs could be a girl I probably would find out but our attempt was boy and girl friendly and not hard core swaying so chances of pink are slim!
I was looking through the NEXT sale Preview yest and looked at the baby clothes as I have given all mine away! and it did pull at my heart when I saw all the girls things.....
I will be looking out for signs though at my 20 week scan so will keep you posted!! :)
Has it sunk in yet that you are having girls....!!!!

[Babymad]

Yes unfortunately it's only going to get worse and the only treatment is delivery so I've been told to prepare for an induction within the next week/ week and a half.. I just can't believe there's a chance I won't get to celebrate christmas with my boys :( it's enough to make the water works start.. I'm such an emotional wreck at the moment

Oh Sunset you poor thing! You must feel so upset...lots of hugs xx I hope they decide whats best soon so you know whats happening. Take care of you and bump and keep us posted. Thinking of you xxx

[Babymad]

Hi Everyone :)

Finally got round to catching up on posts!

Lavender & Deaks ~ I hope you both get your +OPK's soon and FX for Xmas BFP's!!

Petal ~ Lovely to hear from you and so nice to hear how much you are enjoying your little man - he is gorgeous x

I hope everyone is coping with MS as best they can and I hope everyones bumps are doing well :)

The boys finished school today....Yippeeeee!!!!!! I am officially knackered and ready for a rest tomorrow :)

I have recently got to know one of the mums in the village as her son is the same age as DS3 and she is a MW - she popped in today for a cuppa and bought her doppler with her so I got to hear bubs HB which was great :)

I hope everyone is ready for Santa - last bit of wrapping tonight and fresh food shop tomorrow and then I'm done! :)

[HopeandDreamG]

Sunset~ think of it this way..if you can't be with your boys on Christmas you are in the process of giving them the BEST gift ever..a beautiful baby sister.

Inglewood~ THose babies ARE GIRLS!!! And I would not tell anyone at all (besides my mother) let them all wait with their annoying comments. Then your birth announcement can go like this: "Oh Boy" (picture of DS 1, "Oh Boy" picture of DS2, It's GIRLS!!!!! or The GIRLS are here!!! with picture of the girls....

So my doc put me on CLomid, and I will have follicle check for my cycle in January and get a Ovidrel injection- Maybe I can join you and have twins too!! Ha would love it....

[Sunset]

Thank you all so much for your lovely comments! It means a lot! I'll update you all more tomorrow when I've spoke to the consultant

Maybebaby ~ thank you for sharing your experience! I don't know how bad it is at the moment. The blood pressure medication seems to be working by keeping my blood pressure under control which I think is what's most important right now? They did a protein count on tuesday which came back as 19.5 with anything under 20 being considered normal but today my protein count has gone up to 88 so it is definitely without a doubt pre eclampsia :( hopefully I should know more tomorrow after the u/s and meeting with the consultant.. But basically all they've said is they won't let me go beoynd 37 weeks (10 days). It all suddenly became so real!

[zanacal]

Thinking of you sunset x

[Inglewood]

Sunset, surely they would let u go home xmas eve for 24hrs?? As long as things are too dangerous? FX they do!!! Thinking of u. x

Babymad, It hasn't sunk in as I don't believe it! I really can't get my head round it and start to believe it. Esp after hearing how so many people hear boy after hearing girl. Will ask on 28th, might believe it a wee bit more, but not till my 4d scan will it sink in (if true). Dh says I'm being silly, but I can't let myself believe it quite yet. Bought 2 pink bibs and 2 pink sleepsuits with mittens after my scan to surprise my mum, but half expecting to have to take them back.
I think u will hear girl, not just saying that, I have a good feeling u will, prob as I've heard of so many mums with 3 boys having a girl 4th time round recently!!

[maybebabythree]

Sunset my wee never went to lab but it was +3 at worse on the dip stick. My bp went mad and never below 100. Bp meds could not stabiles it. The normal bp for me was about 160/120 but I never felt I'll. Seems my body coped well under the strain. Sounds very promising if your bp is stable! Being induced isn't a ideal or dream birth but just think it's out of your hands now so no point feeling bad about timing or method of birth. Make sure they monitor you every two hours after birth without fail. It's so important as it can creep up again birth. You will both be ok. Doctors are really good with pe. Most baby's born early are due to pe so they know exactly how to help you and for this to have minmal impact. Ds birth is one the best days of my life. Being I'll and induced didn't taint the joy at all. Hugs I will be thinking of you x

[deaks66]

Sunset, so sorry you are going through this but i can only repeat what the other ladies have said. You are in the best place and all thats important is yours and your baby girls health! Thinking of you X

[Lavenderlime]

Hi Deaks how are your opks looking? still no smiley here but just had a look on an ovulation calendar and still have till Saturday to ovulate acording to nthe dates I put in. I think the moon changes to New moon soon so that's another positive :).

[deaks66]

Hi Deaks how are your opks looking? still no smiley here but just had a look on an ovulation calendar and still have till Saturday to ovulate acording to nthe dates I put in. I think the moon changes to New moon soon so that's another positive :).

opks fading in sloooowly. Think i might possibly get a + tomorrow which would be great as then attempt would probably be late sat eve/early hours xmas day and then be done and dusted. Its all a bit later than i had hoped but thats ttc for you! oh and youre right...new moon on sat...that'll be a first for me!! Have you been doing FR since your attempt on mon? Are your opks fading in at all? Really hope we both get good attempts in soon and bfps early jan for september bubs!! X

[indigoviolet]

Gosh sunset, huge hugs to you. No wonder you feel emotional, it is such a hard time right at the end of pg and when things seem out of your control. Praying you get some time with your boys over Christmas. Praying for you hun :pray:

chocolate- great you are getting tested and will hopefully have some reassurance, glad the temps are up though.

Babymad- I know what you mean about finding out....I know I won't be able to resist but not finding out is also really tempting, don't want to be sad for 20weeks. You never know though, we both may be carrying our girls. When I write that I just don't feel it for me though unfortunately, just feels like a boy, can't believe I'd ever be that lucky. (I hate this ugh, I'm just so far from being Ok with a boy at the moment).

Deaks and Lavendar- hope you O soon and get some good attempts in, good luck!!

[Babymad]

Sunset, surely they would let u go home xmas eve for 24hrs?? As long as things are too dangerous? FX they do!!! Thinking of u. x

Babymad, It hasn't sunk in as I don't believe it! I really can't get my head round it and start to believe it. Esp after hearing how so many people hear boy after hearing girl. Will ask on 28th, might believe it a wee bit more, but not till my 4d scan will it sink in (if true). Dh says I'm being silly, but I can't let myself believe it quite yet. Bought 2 pink bibs and 2 pink sleePpsuits with mittens after my scan to surprise my mum, but half expecting to have to take them back.
I think u will hear girl, not just saying that, I have a good feeling u will, prob as I've heard of so many mums with 3 boys having a girl 4th time round recently!!

I totally understand why you would feel like that I would too, I would need to hear it a few times before believing! But I know you have girls cooking away......I have always 'known' they were girls :) only a few days before you hear it again I'm sure xx
I hope you are right for me......I have been on one hell of a gender journey over the years and would love to eventually have my dream come true but I'm staying realistic for now........

[Babymad]

Gosh sunset, huge hugs to you. No wonder you feel emotional, it is such a hard time right at the end of pg and when things seem out of your control. Praying you get some time with your boys over Christmas. Praying for you hun :pray:

chocolate- great you are getting tested and will hopefully have some reassurance, glad the temps are up though.

Babymad- I know what you mean about finding out....I know I won't be able to resist but not finding out is also really tempting, don't want to be sad for 20weeks. You never know though, we both may be carrying our girls. When I write that I just don't feel it for me though unfortunately, just feels like a boy, can't believe I'd ever be that lucky. (I hate this ugh, I'm just so far from being Ok with a boy at the moment).

Deaks and Lavendar- hope you O soon and get some good attempts in, good luck!!

Hugs Hun, I know how you are feeling, I'm ok with another boy - will be heartbroken not to hear girl as this is defo our last child and to know I will NEVER have a daughter will be very hard to accept, however I will be happy to complete my family as I have spent years chasing my dream. I'm like you and I don't feel I will be one of the lucky ones. Sending lots of pink dust your sway, I truly hope your dream comes true x
Will you find out before your 20 week scan?

[charlieispy]

Babymad - I could have written your post! I feel exactly the same - i too am planning not to find out as well x I expect boy I pray girl if i were to find out it was a boy i would be sad and if it was a girl I would be gutted not to have waited for a BIG surprise. God I dream of pink all day everyday but I dont feel like miracles like that happen to me I wish it would x FX for pink hun for all of us too x all i know is that my conception was the opposite of the boys not that that means anything really.....my timing wasnt great with the BD the night before O but what will be will be - wait for me in a weeks time obsessing over any sort of nub in my scan pic!
One week till NT scan and getting nervous now!

Sunset - take care cant believe you will have your little girl in your arms in the next 10days!

[Babymad]

Babymad - I could have written your post! I feel exactly the same - i too am planning not to find out as well x I expect boy I pray girl if i were to find out it was a boy i would be sad and if it was a girl I would be gutted not to have waited for a BIG surprise. God I dream of pink all day everyday but I dont feel like miracles like that happen to me I wish it would x FX for pink hun for all of us too x all i know is that my conception was the opposite of the boys not that that means anything really.....my timing wasnt great with the BD the night before O but what will be will be - wait for me in a weeks time obsessing over any sort of nub in my scan pic!
One week till NT scan and getting nervous now!

Sunset - take care cant believe you will have your little girl in your arms in the next 10days!

I think the fact that you did the opp to your boys is a great sway, I am with you on team green and feel exactly like you......I'm not ready to end the dream yet by finding out as I don't know how to move on so waiting until I have my baby in my arms is the best option for me. I will be so sad if it's not a girl but not disapppointed. When we swayed with DS3 I really thought we had a good chance of pink so when he arrived I was disappointed even though we bonded instantly. Then we did PDG so I know we can make girls and still find it hard that we lost our daughter......I hope we all have lots of pink in our lives in 2012 :) xx
I will nub obsess with you ;)
Are you still feeling sick?

[charlieispy]

the last few days have been bad mixed with heartburn-sicky feeling x been sick both days x i know you are still suffering too HUGS x i just have no patience with the boys either which is hard - DH had a massive go at me for shouting at them tonight but I am so tired and they were bloody jumping all over the living room for about the 100th time that day.....alright for him seeing he hasnt seen them and was wanting me to get his dinner!

Geez hun I hope we get our girls x you never know dont give up just yet and like you said if we get blue when they arrive there is no doubt we will love them :D however i better get grandaughters....although i already have marked myself as a MIL from hell :S

[chocolate]

Hey charlie and babymad - I will try and stay team green, at least u can hang onto that bit of what if excitment and look at girly stuff however I am realistic and am expecting boy. I'm more at peace with that now too, I think imagining 3 or 4 boys around the age of 7 plus (when easier :-) ) makes me go 'ahh' and will be able to appreciate the close relationship they would have and the fun they would bring as at a great age (my eldest is 3.5 and I'm finding it a little challenging reining him in at times!) I actually bought a gorgeouse dress today in size 3 to 6 months, first time ever bought pink, my sil is expecting a girl in March so am telling myself its for them but it may accidently stay hidden just incase! I'm feeling suddenly emotional this evening, welling up just at christmas songs and programmes and could easily have a good cry! Hormones!! Feeling tired this pm which I'm loving as I was worried I was feeling tired enough

[Kell]

Omg I'm in a fowl mood, I want to scream shout and cry all at the same time ffs arrrrrrrrr

That is all really!

[Lavenderlime]

opks fading in sloooowly. Think i might possibly get a + tomorrow which would be great as then attempt would probably be late sat eve/early hours xmas day and then be done and dusted. Its all a bit later than i had hoped but thats ttc for you! oh and youre right...new moon on sat...that'll be a first for me!! Have you been doing FR since your attempt on mon? Are your opks fading in at all? Really hope we both get good attempts in soon and bfps early jan for september bubs!! X


FX for positive OPK's for tomorrow! PMSL there was me obsessing about Oing directly on the the full moon then it actually turns out I'll O in a new moon. So that's one more thing to add to the sway. I know it doesn't mean THAT much but just makes me feel that bit more confident about my sway. Cheapies have no pattern just all over the place so just sticking with digi's for the rest of the month it's more expensive but the fading in and out is just getting on my wick! DP has been doing FR and I have stressed how important it is. Hoping we get some Christmas magic and new years BFP:)

I think you ladies are amazing staying team green! I'll be desperate for an early scan. But that's because I know I will be disapointed if I have a boy so I need to illiminate that before they are born. But really Just want to focus on having a girl and thinking positive from here on out :).

3 sleeps......

[chocolate]

Omg I'm in a fowl mood, I want to scream shout and cry all at the same time ffs arrrrrrrrr

That is all really! I could cry with you?! Haven't felt like this in a long long time! My moods are going through: happy to lack of patience to stressy to sad, the joys of being a woman!

[zanacal]

I did scream and shout and cry this evening - and I threw the tub of Celebrations across the living room (but picked them up again very quickly!). All because I feel like shite having spent the whole day cleaning the house and then going to Tesco, then when I told DH to open the Christmas chocolates while we wrapped presents he told me I shouldn't because I should be eating healthily - argh!! I'm really starting to suffer from back ache now, it takes me 30 seconds to get going whenever I stand up and I'm not even 20 weeks yet!!

[maybebabythree]

Well done those of you staying team green. I was glad I found out this time. I still think about ivf but really I move on and use the money for a bigger house. I am putting my overtime money aside for the blood tests but I know I'm too old. I have seen so many people not get pg with ivf. Babymad yours is such a sad story too. I really hope you all get your little Girls x

[chocolate]

Ah zanacal, this time of year sucks sometimes. I was going to bake some cheese biscuits as pressies but started to go wrong so put it in the bin, too much pressure so decided to scrap that plan. Just feel bad for loosing my patience with the boys, going to start afresh tomoz and try to have a nice festive day :-) maybethree, I think about high tech but it really is just a dream, I think if we would consider that then we would save that money and try to move somewhere bigger and just sway again. Wish I had pots of money to have a 4 double beded detached house, could have 6 kiddies then lol, I need to move to america!

[maybebabythree]

I have to move out of the lovely area I am in to get a four bed. Even then it wouldn't be four doubles. Considering getting a three bed to extend as dh is a electrician. But mortgages are so hard to get now.

I have heartburn from he'll, I'm the size of a bus and bumpie hurts as I went Xmas shopping today.a friend posted on facebook she is sitting on the sofa in front of her log fire eating chocolate with sexy mew boyfriend - I want to swop places with her! Dh thinks the baby will come end of Jan. I might explode before then!

Charlie I will be a mil from he'll too! I just know it!

Ds2 is so cute. Did the washing up tonight, helped me wrap presents (as only a four year old can) and keeps singing we wish you a merry Christmas and happy new ears! I wonder what wrong with the ears he was born with that he needs new ones? Rofl!

[Kell]

Awwww maybe your son just made my morning with his happy new ears! Brilliant!!

[pinga]

Oh sunset - you poor thing. What a stress! You're at a really good point though... My DS1 was born at 35.5 weeks and he had no problems - no special care nursery or anything. Look after yourself and hope you are doing ok!!!!

Wow a few of you are going team green. I sometimes think I would like to.... but after everyone guessing boy after seeing my scan video I think I just want to know 100% now. Kind of giving up on the idea of a girl here. School holidays have just started and my scan is at the very end of the school holidays so I'm just going to try not to think about girls and enjoy having DH home for 6 weeks.

Gawd its so hot here... been 32 today and again tomorrow... :P - got the air-con on at the mo. Really doesn't make me feel Christmassy - in fact its quite odd walking around the market boiling away with Jingle Bells blasting out. Very odd. Tomorrow I'll be wrapping - I kind of like wrapping on Christmas Eve! :)

Anyhews - Hope everyone else is doing well...

[charlieispy]

FUMING - so i am tired i am sick i am hormonal i have 3 bloody boys trashing my house all day for the last 4 days....in that time i have deep cleaned both bathrooms and toilet (sounds like i have a mansion i really dont lol) deep cleaned the oven, vaxed the whole of downstairs, made gingerbread with them, crafted with them, made mince pies, wrapped all the F-ing presents and do you know what DH has the cheek to say today he is fed up of the house being messy and DIRTY. WTF this is a man who hasnt cleaned a toilet since we lived together, let alone anything more than wiping a side down in the kitchen. Last night he came in ate his dinner and sat on his arse....if it was THAT bad surely he could have cleaned it all then. Maybe if he looked he would realise the mess in the kitchen is made from his dinner as i ate with the kids and although i made it he was meant to wash up - he didnt he didnt even put his plate in the dishwasher....rant over i am in a FOUL mood

SORRY For my rant but i am so angry right now x

Oooooh pinga - hope the holidays fly past and you get a BIG pink surprise at the end x x sounds hot hot hot for xmas x x we have just wet mild weather :S

Sunset hope you are ok x keep us posted x

[charlieispy]

To all those VENTING HUGS Z - did laugh a little at throwing the celebrations hope you aimed them at his head....i will be doing just that if DH carries on - he bloody ate my chocolates from work...CHEEK!

Kell - hugew hugs you had a BUSY day hope you have recovered

Chocolate x huggies too x

and to everyone think we need them <3

[Kell]

Charlie poke dp in the eye with a sharp metal object! I hate it when I get comments like that from dp, it just makes me so angry and spoils my whole day!

I managed to get through yesterday but I was shattered and still got no bloody help! I wonder if having another baby was a good idea when I'm the only person that does anything! Nothing like adding more stress to the mix. Then I remember I don't care about the house and all that jazz and that a baby will make me very happy!

Well I had my booking in appointment, everything was pretty boring and normal! Had bloods, booked my scan, Friday 13th at 2:20, wonder ig I'm tempting fate with that date!! I'll be exactly 12 weeks! When's the best time to get a nub shot? I might see if I can make it a different date if being further on is better?

Still got lots to do, dp informed me that on Saturday he was thinking about going to the shooting range for the day, I said no! Seriously I've got so much to do and him swanning off to have fun really doesn't help me in the slightest! But he can't think further than his own existence most of the time so why would bring around on Christmas eve to help me even enter his mind?! Grrr

Must go eat something! Have a good day girls x

[Kell]

Oh and just for a laugh, my pee pot leaked in my pocket, I now have a pee coat! Oh the joys lmao!

[indigoviolet]

Just got back from my scan, YAY, healthy bean with heartbeat! I'm so happy. I was so nervous before hand as have had bad experiences in that unit, horrible sitting in exactly the same area but this time good news! I know I am not in the clear but so far so good. Phew, all that sickness is worth it. I will put up a pg ticker now!

[Kell]

So glad your scan went well indigo!! Yay to a pregnancy ticket! :)

[maybebabythree]

Indigo - yay! Great news! You are pg and going to have a baby so come join us on the sicky heartburn swelling stretch mark bus to sleepless nights! So glad all went well.

Ds2 is sick and he never gets I'll! I have braxton hicks from he'll but am meeting the girls for drinks tonight. I am determined to stay out till 11 or 12.

Sorry about the useless husbands. Mine never cleans the bathroom. But he did get up for ds2 and cleaned up the sick and had him be sick over him and didnt wake me so he has his uses.

[chocolate]

Charlie, my man is like that too moans about the mess of the kitchen after Ive been in there cooking for him with 2 kids or more in tow!!

Got part of my results, at 10dpo my progesterone 75.5 which seems ridiculously high unless it equates to 7.5? HCG was 14 and having that tested again today but wont get results till Wed. at the earliest now. My temps are slowly rising now though.

Very stressy day here, I stupidly let OH play golf, and he doesnt even appreciate it, Ive never had a day of leisure like that!

[HopeandDreamG]

Just got back from my scan, YAY, healthy bean with heartbeat! I'm so happy. I was so nervous before hand as have had bad experiences in that unit, horrible sitting in exactly the same area but this time good news! I know I am not in the clear but so far so good. Phew, all that sickness is worth it. I will put up a pg ticker now!

Yeah indigo!!! I'm sooooo happy for you :) :) :)

[Inglewood]

Charlie and Babymad, I admire you both being able to wait!! I have NO patience!!! lol Although I didn't know what sex either of my babies were until born before. This time I had to, esp having 2 it lets me get better prepared, also my GD with ds2 when I SO thought he was a girl was tough, although we bonded from the min he was born, I didn't want to feel like that again, or how feel annoyed at myself like I am 5yrs later for feeling like that about him as he's just amazing! With ds1 I actually WANTED him to be a boy, as I desperately wanted Dh to have a son and then now years later he let me do all the 'swaying' etc to try to let me have my daughter. I will be crazy stalking u both near ur due dates!!!

Z, can't believe ur Dh said that about the chocs!!! Men! lol My Dh hasn't dared, YET!! lol And I know I have been overeating with all these xmas goodies about!! It's hard not to!! My back is so so sore too, never had back pain with boys was more sciatica and SPD, both of which are niggling away but never had back 'stiffness' like it, esp trying to get out of bed for a pee!! lol Did ur urinary prob's settle??

Pinga, gosh ur 14wks!!! Does it feel like it's going in quickly? Are u well?

Kell, lol about the Pee in ur pocket, that sounds like something that would happen to me!!!

Chocolate, How is ur friend? Yeh for the temps rising and bloods!

H&G, Thanks and hope ur well?

Indigo, Fab news!!!! will u post ur scan pics!!

Sunset, hope ur well? Thinking of u! You can fill her in in years to come how she was so desperate to arrive get a santa present!! Take care, hope ur being well looked after?

That's me all done for xmas! Decided to go to Sanisbury's in the next town, which luckily was quiet at 10am...but they didn't have lots I needed, so needless to say ended up in Adsa anyway! Mobbed, mobbed, mobbed!! Not easy xmas food shopping with a bump when people ram their trolley's into you! Feet up now after I get the boys from school they finish at 2.30pm....HYPER TIME!! lol then just a few things to wrap! Showed them their PNP meassage last night, went to bed crazy hyper, maybe should of shown them earlier, but was waiting for dh to come home from work and then he never bothered! men! Ds2 has a rash everywhere except his trunk!! got dr at 4pm, better to have it checked since it's a holiday wkend and with him having an ear infection last wk and ??? Hand foot and mouth?? which they said it wasn't! Chat later. x

[charlieispy]

YAY indigo fantastic news :D go get that ticker!!!

[Kell]

Dare I say it but I'm almost done shopping, did the food shop cost a fortune but managed to finish off the stocking fillers!
Only thing I need to do is wrap everything and get a couple more bits for dp, not sure what yet but I'll find something! He actually wants money for gun dog training.

I'm having my sisters and dad over boxing day for a buffet but I can't think what to have! Will have rolls/bread, cooked turkey and ham, coleslaw, potato salad, pork pie. I'm stuck what else now, possibly cheese and crackers, salsa and other dips with crisps. Any other ideas? I'm not against cooking, could do a pasta maybe

[charlieispy]

I love rice salad - rice cooked with a stock **** then peas, peppers, spring onions, tomatoes. Everything else sounds good lots of picky nibbly food perfect for after xmas. Pigs in blankets?

I only have to provide pudding for xmas dinner :D am attempting profiteroles....as well as cooking DH his ham and fresh bread....depending on his behaviour if he doesnt apologise the dog will have a GOOD xmas

[chocolate]

Oh and just for a laugh, my pee pot leaked in my pocket, I now have a pee coat! Oh the joys lmao!

My 3 year old sat and peed on the sofa next to me yesterday as so engrossed in tv and I thought what is that wet feeling, yuck!

[Kell]

Lol chocolate! Ds2 went through a phase of taking his nappy off and peeing where ever he fancied, drove me mad all I could smell was wee! And I couldn't find it half the time! Ewww

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi Ladies! Hope everyone is doing well. I'm going to doc this afternoon for my crohns. Hopefully I can start to be titrated off the steroids I am on. I am feeling better, and Would really like to have attempt for January. I just hope doc is on board. I can see him wanting me on them for longer to be sure this flare is over.

I have been dieting pretty strict the last week. Then the last two days I was terrible. After I'm so mad about it. Will get back on the horse today, and I guess let myself have little cheats for Christmas. Do you think that makes that much of a difference for an attempt in the 4th week of January? If from the 1st week of January I'm super strict, and as much as I can from now until Jan 1st?

[charlieispy]

personally i think cheating xmas is totally acceptable and you should be fine for the end of jan....IMO but then i was a little sloppy with my diet i felt i changed as much as i could without losing the will to live! I think you have to do what you are comfortable with x

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks Charlieispy (for rationalizing my cheats) that makes sense!

I never had a chance to mention but I think you will all get a laugh from this: I'm not sure how it started but my DS1 is obsessed with England. He loves the British soldiers and often pretend he is a "red coat"! He dresses up all the time in a huge redshirt, puts on a belt with a sword, and uses different objects to make a large black hat. He sometimes uses a black felt pirate hat and turns it sideways. He's even used his black lunch bag that is tall and narrow as a hat!! Its hysterical..DS2 of course joins him (16 months younger). It is the cutest thing you've ever seen. He told Santa he wanted red coat toys!
He was glued to the TV watching the Royal Wedding of William and Kate!! How adorable :)

[charlieispy]

lol that is so sweet x my BF little boy LOVES the royal wedding - i got him a mug for his birthday and he also got the royal wedding play set from early learning centre....she had it recorded on sky for ages as he loved to rewatch it all <3 so cute. Loving his different inventive outfits :D

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Indigo Yay Yay Yay Yay!!!!! What fantastic news so so pleased for you, lovely little beanie baby! xx

[indigoviolet]

Thanks ladies :HH:
So nice to be able to share the news with you all as I have hardly told anyone IRL. thanks for sharing my excitement, love you all :heart:
I'm so happy! (although still feeling sick as a dog lol)

[chocolate]

Just got back from my scan, YAY, healthy bean with heartbeat! I'm so happy. I was so nervous before hand as have had bad experiences in that unit, horrible sitting in exactly the same area but this time good news! I know I am not in the clear but so far so good. Phew, all that sickness is worth it. I will put up a pg ticker now!

Ah excellent news, put up that ticker, I get confused easily and forget how many weeks you are!

[HopeandDreamG]

Sunset~ thinking of you..hope you are doing well. I imagine you are still in the hospital :HH:

[Inglewood]

Hi Ladies! Hope everyone is doing well. I'm going to doc this afternoon for my crohns. Hopefully I can start to be titrated off the steroids I am on. I am feeling better, and Would really like to have attempt for January. I just hope doc is on board. I can see him wanting me on them for longer to be sure this flare is over.

I have been dieting pretty strict the last week. Then the last two days I was terrible. After I'm so mad about it. Will get back on the horse today, and I guess let myself have little cheats for Christmas. Do you think that makes that much of a difference for an attempt in the 4th week of January? If from the 1st week of January I'm super strict, and as much as I can from now until Jan 1st?

A couple of days 'off the wagon' never usually affected my PH, so I'm sure you will be fine, esp at this time of the year, I couldn't ever be 100% good!! xx

[Sunset]

Hi ladies! Hope you're all well! :)

Indigoviolet so happy to hear your scan went well, that's great news!!

I've had a growth scan this morning and baby is doing great. I've had my first steroid injection this morning to mature baby's lungs and I'm due more blood tests and steroid injections tomorrow morning. Not much news I'm afraid as the doctors can't say what's gonna happen, it all depends on my blood pressure and how well and long the disease can be managed. The goal is still 37 weeks and then I'll be induced so 9 days! eeek! But things can change quickly so I need close monitoring. Still don't know what the plan is over christmas.. They told me this afternoon that in worst case scenario they might let me home for 3-4 hours so I can open presents with the boys, but I'm hoping to be let home for 24 hours... Well see what my bp does and what my blood results are tomorrow as well as protein count.. I'll keep you all posted! :) xxxx

[Kell]

Aww sunset I really hope they let you out for Christmas, here's hoping your bp behaves a bit and your bloods and protein come back low ish levels xx

It's Christmas eve!! Exciting! :)

[Inglewood]

Sunset, hope ur home soon for xmas, even if u have to go back in later, if they let you home overnight and return tomorrow night, that would be great! Keep us posted, ur in my thoughts!! xx

[Inglewood]

Well, all set ladies, just to collect my Turkey crown (couldn't cook a whole one), visits to my brother and cousins as I am working tomorrow night and the ds1's prez to wrap tonight....Oh and to try and get my boys to sleep!!!! lol

Hope everyone is having a relaxing xmas eve...no last minute panics???

xx

[maybebabythree]

Sunset I hope you get to home for a bit at some point x

Inglewood sorry your working Xmas day hope it's not a really long shift x

[nuthinbutpink]

Merry Christmas, SMOG ladies!

[Inglewood]

Sunset I hope you get to home for a bit at some point x

Inglewood sorry your working Xmas day hope it's not a really long shift x

Thankfully no, at xmas we can do shorter shifts rather tham 12.5hrs, so boys will be in bed when I go and I finish an hour earlier at 7am on boxing day! Then not back till 30th, which is a shame for Dh as his birthday is New years eve and I'll be too shattered to do much. Have u now finished work for xmas? Anyone else have to work it like me??? :(

[Sunset]

Better news than expected!! I've been given the all clear to go home over christmas! :D I can't believe it!! :cheer: I'm back in on boxing day for another blood pressure profile and to take things from there basically :)

Merry christmas to you all!! I hope you have a wonderful christmas weekend with lots of lovely presents and yummy christmas food!

[Kell]

Yay sunset! Merry christmas!! :)

[maybebabythree]

Yay sunset! Great news! Just don't use this as excuse to clean or cook or do anything. Just sit and chillax!

Inglewood I have to work from home on weds and thurs but I will not be doing a lot as no customers will be at work. Feeling very chrismasy now. Went out with the girls last night but only had one drink. Strewberry mijito - yum yum! Just having a small Ginger wine now. Haven't drink at all for seven months now. Baby will sleep well this week!

[Lavenderlime]

Merry Christmas SMOG ladies!!! xx

[zanacal]

That's wonderful news Sunset, enjoy your day tomorrow :D

Merry Christmas to everybody else. We're all in the pyjamas Father Christmas left us under the tree this evening - got to look good for the Christmas morning photos :D

[Petal]

Ah brilliant news sunset!! i agree, don NOT lift a finger!! lol.

I hope you all have a fantastic christmas with your families :-)))

Lots of love to you all x x x

[deaks66]

Just wanted to wish you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS!! Dont know how often i will manage to get in here in the next few days hosting christmas and all that. Gonna get my smiley tomorrow by the looks of things and dtd the next day though havent been on the diet at all today nor tomorrow...who cares though, its christmas!!!!! Sunset, fab news and you too Indigo! X

[indigoviolet]

Great news sunset, soooo happy for you! God Jul! :HH:

deaks- good luck with your attempt! a little christmas baby (conceived) how cute would that be?!

Merry christmas to everyone else, you are all wonderful and very special women and my life wouldn't be the same without you all, love you :heart:

[deaks66]

Great news sunset, soooo happy for you! God Jul! :HH:

deaks- good luck with your attempt! a little christmas baby (conceived) how cute would that be?!

Merry christmas to everyone else, you are all wonderful and very special women and my life wouldn't be the same without you all, love you :heart:

Thanks hun and i totally agree, love all the ladies on here! what would we do with each other?!

Speaking of which, just wandering what anyones thoughts are on what to use between multiple o+12 attempts? Hoping to get an o+12, o+14 ish and perhaps even one more in if dh has the stamina! Would you use small lime douche or blobs of acigel inbetween to keep ph down? Im thinking lime but not 100% sure! X

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Merrry Christmas ladies hope you all have a wonderful day tomorrow xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[maybebabythree]

Merry Christmas everyone! Enjoy your eleven courses Tlm! Are you from the ukrain? I am fit to pop already! Boys have to open there Xmas eve pjs then it's off to bed while me and dh wrap the presents. Catch up with you tomorrow or the day after with my SS photo!

[maybebabythree]

Nbp happy Christmas to you and thanks for re homing us! Xxxxx

[Babymad]

Indigo ~ Really pleased your scan went well - fab news :)
Kell~ My 20 scan is on Friday 13th :)
Hope ~ I hope you get sorted with the doc in Jan
Sunset ~ So pleased you are home for Xmas :)

Lol at all the comments re hormones and feeling angry - me too!! I'm not very to tolerant of anything or anyone when I'm pg so it's not just a long slog for me but everyone else too :)

GL to those attempting over Xmas, hope everyone's bumps are well and I'm soooo excited that we will be meeting Sunsets little girl very soon! :)

I'm very excited that Santa is finally here, have a wonderful Xmas everyone, I've loved getting to know you all over the last year and wouldn't be without you all x

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Xxxxxxx

[Kell]

Merry Christmas everyone!! I'm sat in my new pj's waiting for Santa! He's already arrived and put all the presents under the tree! Looks lovely!!

Enjoy the next few days with your family! xx

[zanacal]

Hee hee, glad I'm not the only one who does the Christmas pyjamas on Christmas Eve!!

[Sunset]

I know i've said it earlier today but very merry christmas to you all!!!!!! :D i cant wait to sleep in my own bed tonight! :HH:

deaks i would probably just stick to aci gel or replens in between attempts.

[Inglewood]

Wishing you all a Merry Christmas when it comes! 2 very excited wee boys now in bed, all done, can't do anymore!! Enjoy the day with your families and catch up with you all soon. GL deaks, wow! It might be lucky Ov'ing on xmas day!! FX Much love xx

[Wishing4Pink]

Merry Christmas to all you lovely ladies on here. Hope you all have a fab day with your families :)

xxxx

[deaks66]

I know i said it yesterday, but Merry Christmas everyone! Can you flipping believe it got my lh surge sometime around 6pm yesterday so looking to bd 6-10am tomorrow morning right when we are saying goodbye to one set of guests and welcoming another. Not getting stressed though, dh and i are going to behave like naughty teenagers diappearing off upstairs and enjoy it!!

Opened my SS this morning, so lovely, thanks babymad! Will get photo up here at some point!!

Much love to you all and wish me luck! X

[chocolate]

Happy christmas everyone :-) deaks how typical is that lol but atleast u have guests to occupy the kids, just say u are going for a shower and oh fixing something :-) I got my 2 to 3 weeks on my clearblue digital today which is spot on as 4 weeks today, only had 14 hcg on wed. And mild to no symptoms, apparantly 2 to 3 weeks hcg for clearblue is 201 so I'm over the moon with the hcg rise :-)

[HopeandDreamG]

Merry Christmas EVERYONE!!!!

[Sunset]

Merry christmas ladies! Hope you're all enjoying yourself :)

I want to say a big thank you to my secret santa!!! I absolutely love the presents so thank you so so much! :) xx

[indigoviolet]

Merry Christmas all, hope you all had lovely days.
I'm knackered and off to bed soon.
Will catch up with you all tomorrow :HH:

[Kell]

Merry Christmas guys! We've had a lovely day! The boys have been so good all day I'm really pleased with them! They loved all their toys as well!

Ate loads which has been nice actually after the last few days eating like a sparrow! Anyway I'm exhausted!! Off to chill out and go to bed xx

[maybebabythree]

Merry Christmas everyone x thank you for my secret Santa I love it! Will post a picci when I work out how too x

[Inglewood]

Morning all!! Hope you all had a lovely Christmas with ur families? We had a great day, boys had a ball and we joked about how different next xmas will be!! Big thank you to my SS, love my gifts and what a lovely touch with the baby girl hats!! Thank you! xx

Just in from work, wanted to say "Hi" before bed...

Sunset, are u back in hosp yet?

Deaks, GL for ur attempts and enjoy being 'naughty'....FX this is ur month!

Well, off :sleeping: catch up later... xx

[Sunset]

Good morning ladies! I have had the worst night ever!! I suffered such bad indigestion/heartburn last night that I didn't manage to fall asleep until after 3am :s I feel like a wreck this morning *zZz*

Chocolate ~ great news about the rise in hcg :agree:

Inglewood ~im going for a shower and then straight to hospital for my bp profiling, but with the strange symptoms I've had since I got home I doubt they will let me out again :(

Zanacal ~ thanks for your FB comment on my profile pic :) don't know if I think my bump is that impressive though :rofl:

Deaks ~ good luck with your attempt today! Fx it results in a very special christmas gift :)

[charlieispy]

Sorry i didn't get online yesterday so happy belated Christmas to all you lovely ladies x thank. you ss loooooove my present x
good luck deaks x sunset huge hugs are you back for monitoring today? Hope you can rest x waves to all x catch up soon x

[Sunset]

Okay I think I might have some news.. Since last night I've been feeling "off" and restless and this morning I'm feeling a bit crampy, well lo and behold after having been strapped to the ctg for 45 minutes it's been discovered I'm contracting every 10 minutes.. And I can feel them! Eeek! I so pray this isn't a false alarm!

[chocolate]

Ooh sunset, will be thinking of you, little lady has obviously waited long enough for you and thinks she is ready lol!

[Sunset]

Well I guess it's false alarm because they're not intensifying :/ strange.. I've never experienced false labour before lol

[Kell]

Get on a ball sunset, it'll help bring the contractions on if she is indeed ready to arrive!
Fingers crossed for you! :)

Had a proud mummy moment this afternoon, Charlie done his very first wee on a toilet! He's been showing signs of wanting to be potty trained, he took my little sister upstairs and asked to go on the toilet! Did a lovely Christmas wee hehe! When he was done he came down and told us and the whole house cheered for him! He was so pleased it was very cute!

[maybebabythree]

Ah Charlie how cute! Your baby is growing up!

Good luck sunset! I might be joining you soon. Bp is at up, protein and glucose in wee all tested at home but see the midwife Thursday. Might pop into hospital if it keeps going up before then. Protein is below 1 and bp is 99 but been told home machines aren't too accurate. Hope it all settles down. Thought I would be ok if I got to 30 weeks but it's really to soon. Off to mates house for boxing day tea now.

Enjoy boxing eve everyone x

[zanacal]

Hopefully it means the time is near even if it's not 'the' time Sunset - good luck!

[Sunset]

My body is definitely doing something but it's clearly just false labour. I've had tightenings about every 10 minutes ALL DAY but they're not intensifying. It's all a bit new to me as both my labours with the boys were super fast and I didn't have any twinges at all beforehand.

After I'd been let out of hospital this afternoon we went to hubby's family reunion and i swear to you ladies, i wasn't there more than 15 minutes and during them 15 minutes I got EVERY GENDER COMMENT UNDER THE SUN! I could have slapped someone. It always surprises me when people i dont really know have the nerves to ask me "so are hoping to have a girl this time".. what has it got to do with them? and what do they expect me to say? I think it's quite obvious that someone who has 2 or more of one gender would gladly welcome an opposite, but when you are 36 weeks pregnant, suffering pre-eclampsia and insomnia you just want to hold a healthy, strong happy baby regardless of gender!!!!! and i have honestly reached a point now when gender is the last thing on my mind, i love this baby, MY BABY!! sorry for the rant, but i wish i wouldn't have bothered popping by the family reunion to be polite and show my face.. people can be so freaking insensitive and stick their nose where it doesnt belong!

[Babymad]

Hi everyone..

Hope you've had a fab Xmas :)

All went well here....love seeing the boys faces on xmas morning.....makes me so grateful for three beautiful children!

Thanks Sunset for my lovely SS pressies....they are all fab :) xx

How are you feeling this evening? I hope baby makes an appearance soon.

We are going to Yorkshire for a week on Weds so will I will say Happy New Year now in case I don't get on again.
May all our dreams come true......
Kisses to everyone xxx

[indigoviolet]

Poor you sunset, what a pain having to listen to all those annoying comments. Even though you know you are having your girl and you can be happy inside about that it would still make me feel bad for my boys, why wouldn't I want more boys when the ones I have are so wonderful!? And I agree, having a healthy baby is just so important. Good luck with what the next few hours/ days hold!

[indigoviolet]

Hope everyone had nice days, a bit more peaceful than yesterday thank goodness. DH let me have a nap this afternoon, feeling just sooo tired at the moment.
Maybe- hope your bp etc sorts out before thurs. Late pg is hard work!