UK SMOG Wannabes ~ December

[Sunset]

Welcome SMOG ladies! :hug2: :trips: :bighug:

I will write a roll-call so let me know if you want to be added.

Here's to a happy, fertile PINK December
for lots of BFP's, fast 2ww and productive sways!



Babies due this month:

:cheer: BFP's so far this month: :cheer:
Indigoviolet
Littlemisswilko
Chocolate



:pinksperm: TTC :pinksperm:

Id_Love_Pink 2010 TTC HT poss 2012

Homebirthing princess Me 24, DH 26, 2009,2010 ttc august

HopeandDreamG Me 36, Dh 37, 2006, 2007 TTC November

rainbowflower Me 27, DH 27 ds 10 months. We are ttc now

Lavenderlime Me 24, DP 24 2007, 2009 TTC December!

Wishing4pink, 2003, 2009 ttc April 2012

Onemore

Butterfly

Bettyboo

Sarah

Chocolate

Deaks


:pregnant: BFPs!!!!!! :pregnant:

Sunset BFP 11/5 EDD 22/1/12

Maybebaby BFP /7 EDD 03 /12

Inglewood.2007 BFP 23/8 EDD 1/5/12 OMG Identical twins!!!

Babymad BFP 23/9 EDD 30/5/12

Pinga BFP 10/10 EDD 20/6/12

Maybepink3 EDD 22/06/12

Charlieispy BFP 22/10 EDD 4/07/2012

Zanacal EDD 24/5/12

Kell BFP 17/11 EDD 26/07/12

Indigoviolet BFP 01/12 EDD 08/08/12

Littemisswilko BFP 13/12 EDD


:xy:SMOG babies due 2012:XX:

January:
22nd ~ Sunset

February:

March:
Maybebaby

April:

May:
1st ~ Inglewood
24th ~ Zanacal
30th ~ Babymad

June:
20th ~ Pinga
22nd ~ Maybepink3

July:
4th ~ Charlieispy
26th ~ Kell

August:
8th ~ Indigoviolet

September:
October:
November:
December:


:cheer: :cheer: Cheerleaders :cheer: :cheer:

2monkeyboys - Me 32 dp 35 boys 2007 and 2009 ttc- maybe next year fx!

Threelittlemenandcounting me 30 ds 36 boys 3 girls 1 done for now tt but never say never

Petal - congratulations on your beautiful baby boy!!! :celebrate:


~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Secret Santa~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Lavenderlime - Favourite colour: Dove grey
Style: Country living meets muted vinatge
Favourite shops: Cox&Cox, RE, Garden Trading

Indigoviolet - Favourite colour: blue
Style: I love anything shabby chic/ country living.
Favourite shops: I don't really have a favourite shop unless charity shops count lol.

Littlemisswilko - Favourite Colour: Pink\Purple
Style: Ultra modern\Floral shabby chic
Favourite shops : Ikea, Ebay, B&Q

Mabebabythree - Favourite color: burgundy
Style: romantic shabby chic
Favourite shops debenhams, ikea and eBay

Deaks - Favourite colours: green, blue, red!
Style: country living/vintage/timeless
Fav shops: auctions, not on the high street, garden trading, pedlars

Babymad - Fav colour: khaki green/ green/ pink
Fav styles: country / vintage/ shabby chic
Fav shops/ Designer: Cath Kidston, Orla Kiely, John Lewis, Laura Ashley

Sunset - My favourite color is pink/red
Style romantic, shabby chic
Favourite shops Range, Hobbycraft, small quirky shops, debenhams

Wishing4pink - Fav colour is pale pink
Fav style at the mo is romantic, vintage, shabby chic
Love all Cath Kidston style things, quirky things but really love butterflys & hearts

Inglewood - Fav colour- any kind of purple
Style- Don't think I have a fav one at the mo! But I love Fairies and Butterflies.
Fav shops- Quirky -Debenems, quite easily pleased!

Charlieispy - My fav colour is green
Style : I love vintage, shabby chic, cath kidston, so vintage its gross but lush (for those on facebook think of my sofa )
Fav shops charity shops, ebay, vintage and cath at bicester village!!

[deaks66]

Well not to start this thread off on a bad note, but this makes me feel even more depressed! Never in a million years did i think back in feb that i would still be on this f****** diet in dec!!

Sunset thanks for your kind words but there isnt even a glimmer of hope on either ic's or frer. Wish i knew what i could change in my sway without dropping any important bits. And how on earth did i get a bfp last month having left it well over 40hrs to attempt and using sudafed and dh on L.root. This cycle was way more sperm/egg friendly and i have been told so many times that you are more fertile after any kind of miscarriage.

Oh and hun, sorry its taking me sooooooo long to reply to your message, i will get to it!! X

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ I so don't blame you hun! You've nearly been on the diet for a year.. I can't even begin to imagine how frustrating it must be.. it puts your life on hold unfortunately and i wouldn't blame you if you decided to just give up on the whole diet. I think I speak for all of us when I say that you are truly amazing for still doing the diet. I know I would have given up a long time ago!

[deaks66]

Thanks hun, i just dont know what to do for the best. Think i might jack the diet in, stay on the acidiphilus (which seems to have lowered my ph further) and stick with the o+12. Either that or use rephresh or something. But i cant really be arsed to research it all again. My mind is feeling totally frazzled with it all and im starting to think stupid things like was it the lime that helped me get pg last month? so many people seem to have got pg whilst using it. stupid or what?! Think its time i packed it all in really and focused on what i already have.

[Kell]

Deaks I'm so sorry your feeling this way, if af does arrive maybe you could give yourself a break from the diet over Christmas and new year and then come back to it, give your body a good shake up and see if it helps at all, you have done nothing wrong, unfortunately even timing it all perfectly chances are always the same of falling of, I believe it's something like 30% chance each cycle.
I wish we could help, you have been very very strong but you are allowed to feel this way, it's only natural.
((((hugs )))) x

[Lavenderlime]

Awe Deaks....

Have you read this sway IT'S A GIRL!!! Alsestis's Girl Sway 1/23 - In-Gender.com (http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/214196.aspx)

How about timing? would you DD on O day? How would you feel throwing timing out the window?

How about coming off of IG for a few months and switching to LE diet? A change is as good as a rest... Or just having a rest over X mas and start swaying in the new year with LMW?

To you what do you think is the most important sway factor and what is the least?

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ I agree with the other ladies, perhaps you need to allow yourself a break over christmas and new years and just continue with the acidophilus, supps and acigel/replens or whatever you're comfortable with? or perhaps the LE diet on here is a possibility? I've still got my fx you get a bfp this month... it's not over until the witch shows her ugly face

[Sunset]

Kell when did you get your BFP and when is your due date, just so I can update the roll call please

[Babymad]

So sorry Deaks (()). I felt exactly the same back in Aug and I started the diet in Jan.....it's bloody hard going in so many ways. Are you still doing the diet 100%? Maybe consider eating other foods but still sticking to the fundemental rules of the diet? I had the dilemma of how much do I want another baby and I spent along time trying to decide and considering calling it a day...but I didn't feel complete so I had to make the decision to keep ttc knowing my sway wouldnt be 100% if I fell pg and that's the decision you need to make Hun....not an easy one! They do say it's best not to do the diet for more than 12 mths so you're going to need to take a break soon anyway.....Xmas will be perfect for that.
What about doing a CO and 0+12 to increase your chances of getting pg?
lots of hugs x

[deaks66]

Thanks ladies! I feel that if i come off the diet, i wont go back on. Im not willing to eat so badly for another year and it does feel like xmas/new year is the time to say enoughs enough with that side of things. I know they say timing is least important but in my case i really disagree. I have so much ewcm with a high ph (before the acidiohilus) that i can totally see why i have 2 boys. Maybe if i continue the acidiphilus and that continues to lower my ph and decrease my cm, i could possibly bd over ov. See why i ended up dtd over ov with preseed twice? i just cannot conceive any other way!!!

[deaks66]

Thanks babymad! i already tried the cut off and o+12 combo for a few months but dh couldnt handle the FR. I have also had quite a few breaks from the diet this year so im not worried about staying on it for that reason, i just dont want to do it anymore...it feels like life is too much on hold. And people all around me keep having baby girls while not on the diet so i just think i need to let fate/nature decide as i feel like im battling against it too much. I just wish i knew if there was a problem with mine or dh's fertility? Im sure that because i definately ov and have so much ewcm that it cant be mine. But dh wont get tested :(

[indigoviolet]

Deaks (((hugs)) honey, I replied to you on the other thread. It is so hard and we are all here for you :HH: It is hard to know what to drop and what to keep so you still feel happy with what you did when you do get pg. You don't want regrets but you do also want to be pg. Maybe you should have a few weeks break until and over christmas and then start again in the new year? You will get your baby. will be praying for you :HH:

[Babymad]

GL tomorrow Indigo :) x

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ Whatever you decide I support you 110%!!! you will get your baby, there's no doubt in my mind!!!

Indigoviolet ~ i can't believe you're gonna keep us waiting until tomorrow afternoon.. i won't have any nails left by then :rofl:only kidding, I don't actually bite my nails lol but i'm gonna be so excited for you and stalk this thread! i've got everything crossed it's a bfp for you!!

[deaks66]

Thanks ladies! One thing i am seriously wandering about last cycle was that we dtd twice within 2 hours which we have never done before? do you think there could be any link to that and the bfp? Almost as if the one batch pushed the ther batch on or whether there was more fluid to swim in? is this nonsense that i have made up in my head?!

Indigo, i really cant wait to hear from you in the morning!!!

[Sunset]

Thanks ladies! One thing i am seriously wandering about last cycle was that we dtd twice within 2 hours which we have never done before? do you think there could be any link to that and the bfp? Almost as if the one batch pushed the ther batch on or whether there was more fluid to swim in? is this nonsense that i have made up in my head?!

Indigo, i really cant wait to hear from you in the morning!!!

The more sperm you add to the scene the higher your chance is of falling pregnant, so dtd several times if definitely going to increase your chance of catching the egg :agree:

[Inglewood]

Deaks, I agree with sunset, dtd so close together could only help than hinder. I truly admire your patience all year, I'm not sure I'd of been so good. It must be tough on you, but the acidophilis is a good step forward and maybe ur body just needs another mth to recover. Your bfp must be just around the corner and maybe relaxing over xmas and having fun will do the trick! They say the less we think about things...... Wish I could reach thru the screen and give u a :bighug:

[Inglewood]

I'm gonna go to bed, not a good night here :(

DH has come home at 7pm in a bad mood from work and went to bed in huff after a silly argument with me! He's never usually like this, a placid guy really and the last time he was like this it was about 6yrs ago when he hated his last job, he was being kinna bullied. Now he works with an alcoholic and the boss knows and won't do anything about it. Dh's dad was an alchoholic (hasn't spoken to his dad for 23yrs) and my dh only drinks socially, not even at home, so it's hard for him to work with this guy who staggers about drunk most days. But my Dh is acting like he did all those yrs ago when he ended up walking out on his job and he kept how bad it was from me till he left. Dread to think what it must be like for him at work, but wish he would talk to me. I've sat and cried tonight as I'm thinking back to all those yrs ago and how difficult he was to live with during that time.

Enough of my moaning!!

Indigo, Fx for u tomorrow!!!

Sunset, lovely to see the baby stuff pic...so sweet!

Babymad, glad ur a bit better, Fx the evenings improve soon too.

Charlie, hope ur ok?

Everyone else, sleepy tired now, but hope ur all well? Meeting a friend tom who had a baby boy 2wks ago, so excited. x

[deaks66]

Morning ladies, it's an early one for me today. Slept like a log and feel so much better! I was thinking the same inglewood, maybe my body does need a bit longer to recover after my chemical. I shed a lot of clots etc and perhaps the lining just needs more time to build up. So I'm thinking my plan is to relax the diet a bit but actually try and stay away from too many treats over the next month as I think it might freak my body out anyway having being starved for so long. Gonna dtd twice in a row this month and see if that was the trick and stick with the timing. Then I'm gonna reevaluate in the new year if not pg this next cycle.

I'm actually more freaked out about coming off the diet than staying on it.... I feel like I have totally forgotten how to cook especially As dh is never here to cook for anymore in the evenings. Feel like I would just raid the snacks if I wasn't in the diet.

Inglewood, Im really sorry your dh is going through it, I hate it when you know something is bothering them but they keep it bottled up. I hope he manages to find a way to feel happier at work without walking out. Annoying that his boss is turning a blind eye though as I guess it puts dh in a difficult position. Thanks for the virtual hug, sending one back!

Indigo, can't wait for your update!

[Kell]

Kell when did you get your BFP and when is your due date, just so I can update the roll call please

I found out on 17th november, and my due date is 26th July

[Kell]

Inglewood I hope you get to the bottom of things with oh, I always know when something's up with mine and he too finds it very difficult to talk about his feelings/emotions, I think most men do. If there's ever anything wrong I text or write him a letter, that tends to get things flowing.

Deaks so glad your sticking with it this cycle, have everything crossed for you, you deserve your sticky bfp so much!

Indigo so excited for you!! :)

We went out for dinner yesterday, I was so full up it was awful! But omg the food was amazing! Mmmmm
Our dog has finally come into season as well so next weekend we will be breeding her, dp is really excited, I'm not so much, I know it'll be hard work looking after them and I know I'll find it hard to sell the puppies.
Ds2 isn't very well bless him, he's coughing so much it's making him sick, he's not eating properly and won't take medicine, I'm having to put it in juice for him to take any.
We are off to Costco this weekend hopefully! Oh and I'm thinking of getting the Christmas tree out and putting it up tonight or tomorrow! Love Christmas!!!

[deaks66]

Thanks kell! Sorry ds not feeling well! This time of year is such a nightmare for germs... Mine are constantly under the weather :(

I would be totally apprehensive about my dog having puppies....seems like such a lot of hard work... And I too would find it hard giving them up. When you love your dog so much, to give away their babies is tough. I hope you find a way to stay a bit detached. Hooe you will get a good price for them to make it all worth while!

[chocolate]

Well not to start this thread off on a bad note, but this makes me feel even more depressed! Never in a million years did i think back in feb that i would still be on this f****** diet in dec!!

Sunset thanks for your kind words but there isnt even a glimmer of hope on either ic's or frer. Wish i knew what i could change in my sway without dropping any important bits. And how on earth did i get a bfp last month having left it well over 40hrs to attempt and using sudafed and dh on L.root. This cycle was way more sperm/egg friendly and i have been told so many times that you are more fertile after any kind of miscarriage.

Oh and hun, sorry its taking me sooooooo long to reply to your message, i will get to it!! X

Hey, after my miscarriage I didnt fall pregnant the first cycle, but it was the 2nd cycle, what are you still doing for your sway?

[deaks66]

Holy shit girls think I've got a faint line!!! Now I know you have heard this from me before....a zillion times, but this one is definately clearer! Can't believe I just flushed my cup of pee away before I dipped my frer! But there is definately something on my ic! Kyfcfm!!!!!!!

[Kell]

I don't know what kyfcfm means lol but Deaks I so hope you are pg!
It's not over till af arrives! Next pee get your frer out and post a picture!!! Fx for you!

[deaks66]

Ha ha sorry think I made that one up...it means keep your fingers crossed for me! Can't take a photo as camera charger left in Cornwall. Will try and take one with my phone!

[deaks66]

My phone too crap

[Kell]

Yes do it on your phone!! We need to see these bfp's!!
Hmfxfy haha I made that one up! Have my fingers crossed for you!

[Kell]

My phone too crap

Boooooooooo stupid phone lol!

[Lavenderlime]

Morning,

Deaks are you 100% sure your out? I was thinking last night of my friend who had a girl and didn't sway and the things that stuck out to me were she never ate breakfast really unless it was a Sunday and had a late breakfast, she drinks quite a bit of diet coke everyday, also she never cooks from scratch her DH does but she's a freezer girl and also she's a vegetarian. Not sure about timing as it was an oops pregnancy. So if you did want to ease of the diet a little could you still stick with the no breakfast thing lots of aspartame and no/less meat?

I think it's great you're going to give yourself another cycle, I know what you mean about the diet i've got used to eating the same stuff most days. And i'm just eating things like spaghetti with a tiny bit of butter stired in, rice crispies, and yoghurt sometimes with sugar free jam. and the ocational pancake I ate scones last month but have run out now and can't be bothered to make anymore as pancakes taste nicer anyway. I quite enjoy having such a limited diet as I don't have to think about what to eat/cook. I do miss normal food but less and less as the weeks go on.

Indigo have you tested again?:D

Inglewood your poor DH does sound like he's having a really stressful time at work and is being put in a really uncomfortable position. I hope he can get it resolved. Surely being drunk at work is grounds for dismisal? How many people does DH work with can't they all complain to HR? I hope you can chat to him today hopefully just talking about it might ease some of the stress for him. hugs x

Morning Kell! Anymore sickness, I hope so ;)

[Lavenderlime]

X post EEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!!!

[Lavenderlime]

Do you have a scanner?? lol

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ wow, I just went on GD and read up on the posts since last night and then waved DH and DS1 off in the car and holy baloney when I get back there's like 2 full new pages to read :D I am SO SO super excited for you! did this line look different than evaps? I might have to send my camera on the post to you i'm so eager :rofl: you have to update us as soon as you've done a frer!!!!!!! :D :D i'm keeping everything crossed for you hun that this is your sticky bfp!!

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ I'm so sorry! it's so difficult when you know something is up.. I wish men were better at talking about their emotions! I hope he opens up to you soon because this is definitely not the kind of stress you need now when you're pregnant with twins :( We're all here for you if you need to vent! ((hug))

Kell ~ hows the MS? I've never had a dog, but I would be so nervous to breed one if I had one lol puppies as cute as they are seem hard work :p good luck, i hope it goes well :) will it not be so hard to say good bye to the puppies though? won't you get very attached?

AFM my DS1 is finally well enough to go back to nursery. He's been poorly with a fever and cough for nearly a week :( he was so excited to go play at nursery this morning :) and it's dress up day so he went as a shepard :p so cute! xx

[Kell]

Lol lavender! Yep still feeling suitably sick! And tired! Thanks! I wonder how much longer I can be positive about it lol!

Sunset yep I will probably find it hard to sell the puppies, but I can't keep them all, my house would be a nut house!!
Glad ds is better! Charlie's got the same thing now oh joy!

[Inglewood]

Wow, 2 pages to read!!!

Deaks, desp for u to do a FRER!!! or CB digi....when will u test gain...hold that pee!!!!!!!

Sunset, glad ur ds is better, this time of the year is awful for bugs..... bless him, hope he loves being a shephard!

Kell, I've never had a dog either and since my pg with ds2 I'm allergic to cats and dogs! but GL!! ahh wee puppies...

Indigo....have u tested?

Thanks for all ur kind words.....

Well, Dh kinna apologised to me tody, but then blamed me for it all, so kinna took it back didn't he? It started yest because I was on the phone to microsoft about ds1's xbox controller not working and then after was speaking to dh about what we are to do. Dh was a bit crabby after work and started to say I was nagging etc.... I don't have a clue about these things and was asking him which controller we need to return... so an argument about nothing but he went crazy at me and stormed out for an hour which he NEVER does (only once 6yrs ago) so he came back and went straight to bed. Prob best he did or we'd of argued more. I told him this morning he's not the same recently with all the carry on at his work, but he's denying it is, but I told him he needs to speak tome as it's like all the probs 6 yrs ago.... so we'll hopefully 'chat' when he comes home and not argue. The guy he works with gets so drunk sometimes that my Dh is left to do all the work and since they work in pairs, no-one else really works with this other guy unless my Dh is off and even then this guy doesn't drink as much then...basically takes the Piss out of my Dh. He told his Boss as his Boss asked why my Dh had to stop this guy from driving van and since the boss kinna knew he was a drinker he said he would keep an eye on it, but Dh meantime is left doing extra work every day, comes home later and is so dis-heartend at work. It must be crap and I can't believe his Boss knows and won't do anything!!!! My Dh doesn't want to go higher than his Boss as he doesn't want to be the person responsible for him losing his job when he has a family to support and be labled a 'tell-tale' and then get grief at work from other guys. Dh thinks his Boss should be stepping up.

FX he'll talk more later as I really don't need to be worrying and being upset at the moment, I've kept so calm throughout my 'shock' considering we need to buy double,move house, new car and have 2 newborns in about 18wks time!!! I don't want to start being upset now.

[deaks66]

Right, the ic is fmu (it was darker before it dried out) and the frer i have just done. Can appreciate they are faint, but hope you can see the lines too! :)894895

[charlieispy]

Well not to start this thread off on a bad note, but this makes me feel even more depressed! Never in a million years did i think back in feb that i would still be on this f****** diet in dec!!

Sunset thanks for your kind words but there isnt even a glimmer of hope on either ic's or frer. Wish i knew what i could change in my sway without dropping any important bits. And how on earth did i get a bfp last month having left it well over 40hrs to attempt and using sudafed and dh on L.root. This cycle was way more sperm/egg friendly and i have been told so many times that you are more fertile after any kind of miscarriage.

Oh and hun, sorry its taking me sooooooo long to reply to your message, i will get to it!! X


Oh hun i just wanted to send you lots and lots of love x I know my BFP came quickly this time but for ds2 especially there were many many months where I was beyond despair. Maybe take a day or 2 off the diet try and do something for yourself have a mini break from all and hopefully it will clear your head and let you start again fully recharged, or even have december off? I dont know if you would want to do that x I believe you will get there i dont think you need to drop any of your sway as you have got pregnant on it - i know it is hard but even with all the factors for getting a BFP its only 25% off people that do x much love x

[charlieispy]

haha i wrote that before reading your last post!!! I SEE LINES congrats hun x hope you are :D smiling :D your FRER is like mine on 10dpo my SMU was even darker x x

[charlieispy]

CONGRATS Deaks

Indigo hope you have a nice line too x x

AFM - aching pains and more spotting :( am off to bed hopnig that ds3 will nap x x

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ I CAN SEE THE LINES!!!!!!! and evaps on frer are like impossible :D :D and the line on the cheapie has pink colour to it so it's not an evap line! eeek!! so so so so happy for you :D congrats hun!

[Sunset]

AFM - aching pains and more spotting :( am off to bed hopnig that ds3 will nap x x

oh no :( how worrying with aching pains as well :( You should contact the early pregnancy unit again hun and get rescanned!! keeping you in my thoughts ((hugs))

[Inglewood]

Deaks, I have the most shocking eyesight but can def see a line on the 2nd test!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!! I've struggled with FRER when testing myself, but the CB digi gave me 'Pregnant' 1-2wks, do u have one of them to try later???? This is so exciting!!!

[Kell]

I can see them both!! Congratulations Deaks!! :) :) :) x

Charlie I had to go back to bed with ds2 as well, we both fell asleep watching dispicable me! Hope you feel better!

Inglewood, do you think maybe he's panicking about the twins? I imagine it's a big shock for him as well, altho you are carrying them, he may be feeling the pressure to provide for them? Just trying to think why he would be so odd with you? Hope he speaks to you tonight!

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ I hope your talk with DH tonight goes well.. keep us posted!

Deaks ~ congrats again :D keeping everything crossed that the line continues to get darker :)

[chocolate]

Deaks I see them! Congratulations, so happy for you after reading you were getting quite fed up, those positive tests are at the right time :-)

I remember someone recommending the acidiphiolous??? cant remember the spelling, can you tell me how many to take/dosage and if these are ok in the 2ww and with other supps? My PH is high 5's and ovulation isnt here yet and uses replens yesterday so want to try something else.

[maybepink3]

Hi Ladies,
Feeling a little better today so came online to catch up and saw Deaks news. So fantastic!!! I too can definately see 2 lines on both. When I tested even at 14dpo it was so faint so that's why I thought I was out that month. Do a digi and you'll definately know. Fx for you hun, you've really been through the mill. So hoping it's your time.
Well, I'm around 11 weeks now but still got to wait nearly 2 weeks for my scan. Thought I felt the baby this week but not sure as it's way too early.
Hope everyone's doing ok. Sorry I've been a bit of a hermit lately, lots of lounging on the sofa and early nights!!! x

[Lavenderlime]

I can see the line! :)

Just been tidying up the front garden with the boys for a few hours and it's freezing, i'm covered in scratches from the blackberry bush and have a massive pile of cuttings that I don't know what to do with so abandoned it for now and were all toasty inside now!

[Lavenderlime]

Chocolate I take two a day as that's the dosage on my bottle but think you can take up to 4 with some brands? You can take them in the TWW and when pregnant to.

Hi maybe! Do you think you'll ask for a nub shot? 2 weeks isn't long at all! I often feel what is a baby kicking but it's wind lol as i'm not even pregnant! :D

[maybepink3]

Chocolate I take two a day as that's the dosage on my bottle but think you can take up to 4 with some brands? You can take them in the TWW and when pregnant to.

Hi maybe! Do you think you'll ask for a nub shot? 2 weeks isn't long at all! I often feel what is a baby kicking but it's wind lol as i'm not even pregnant! :D

Hi Lavender,
I'm not sure, starting to get scared and hoping everything's alright. Also keep thinking it might be blue so holding on to that bit of hope for a bit longer over xmas would be nice but at the same time wanting to find out or get some indication at least. Bit embarassing asking for a nub shot but might do it. Ahhhhh. Just be nice to finally tell the boys not that the littlest will understand but my 4 year old knows I'm 'sick' and pats my back after I've thrown up bless xx

[deaks66]

Thanks for all your lovely words ladies, sorry youve had to put up with me being up and down for so long! Really hope this is it and that line gets lovely and dark! Headed to the sofa for a sleep today.... the first time i have done that instead of fretting over swaying for a long time! Saying that i reckon i could have got pg much earlier in the year if i hadnt bothered with the cut offs/combo.... o+12 and abstinance is clearly the way to do it for me...2 pregnancies in 2 months!

Lavender, i love getting outside in the garden, being productive and then getting back inside all toasty and warm! And i never know what to do with all the cuttings...usually leave them in a heep for dh to sort out!

Maybepink, sorry you are feeling rubbish! and i know exactly what you mean about the scan and being torn between living with a glimmer of hope and actually being realistic! I very much hope you (and me and all the others) are brewing some pink! Im trying not to get obsessed about it today but can feel that i will very soon!

Charlie, did you get a nap? do you feel any better? could you arrange to get checked out for peace of mind? big hugs!

[deaks66]

Deaks I see them! Congratulations, so happy for you after reading you were getting quite fed up, those positive tests are at the right time :-)

I remember someone recommending the acidiphiolous??? cant remember the spelling, can you tell me how many to take/dosage and if these are ok in the 2ww and with other supps? My PH is high 5's and ovulation isnt here yet and uses replens yesterday so want to try something else.

chocolate, it was possibly me who recommended the acidiphilus. I take 2 a day (i remember inglewood saying she took three but her ph went a bit too low in the 3's so she also took 2 i believe). I take (took!) mine in the 2ww. My ph definately went down especially during ov when it would normally be around 6-7 but on the acidiphilus it was 5.2 max!

[deaks66]

indigo, have you tested hun? dearly hoping everything is ok and you and me are gonna be pg buddies! XX

[indigoviolet]

Yay!!! Deaks so happy for you! WOOOO HOOOOO!!!! Congratulations and praying for a happy and healthy pregnancy for you :HH:

[indigoviolet]

Right just home from work, will go and take a test now....nervous....
I didn't have time to take one this morning, too hectic and grandad here looking after the boys for the day, felt I needed peace and quiet to do it, anyway, have a frer bought on way home, will update asap!

[Inglewood]

Deaks.....Amazing news.....so so so so chuffed for u!!!

Indigo, did u just test???

Chocolate, I took 4 then 3 then 2 acidophilus. My Ph went from 5 ish to as low as 2.8 with 4 to a final 3.8-4 with 2 tabs.
I bought them from here, BOGOF!

Acidophilus - Simply Supplements (http://www.simplysupplements.net/product/71/acidophilus/)

[Inglewood]

Charlie, I'd call too!! For peace of mind. xx

[Inglewood]

Well, Dh came home and gave me a big cuddle. Apoligised and did say he shouldn't of drove off and went into a huff and that was really it, but it's a start, we can chat later about his work issues once boys in bed. He's not too worried about having twins, as he is a twin and comes from a family of 4, he's got his head round it alot better than me!!! Thanks for all ur kind words. xx

[Wishing4Pink]

Deaks - congratulations hun, what fab news!!!! I can certainly see the line in both pics :bigsmile:
x

[Kell]

Indigo have you fallen down the toilet while poas? Lol

[Sunset]

Indigoviolet ~ how did it go?? update us asap! worried now you haven't been on for hours :/

Charliespy ~ did you ring the early pregnancy unit?

Deaks ~ I so hope you're brewing a pink bean :D how are you feeling? how long will you have to continue the progesterone?

wishing4pink ~ how are you? :)

Inglewood ~ so happy to hear your DH apologised! like you say, it's a start :)

[indigoviolet]

Sorry ladies, had to do dinner, bath & bed and then spent last age on phone to insurance company, good news is that they realise that the blame doesn't lie with me and I'll be covered by her insurance :)

also.....896

[indigoviolet]

Sorry it took so long and sorry pic is so big!!

think I must have O'd a few days earlier than FF said as line seems pretty dark!

[Sunset]

Indigo ~ That is a very dark line :D :D no doubt there! :D CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!! :celebrate: so happy for you! when is your due date so i can update the roll call? xx

[deaks66]

wowser indigo, that is one fab line! makes my line look pathetic! in fact mine look fainter during the day today although feeling nauseus already so i guess thats a good sign! Yippee we are gonna be pg buddies after all!!!! fx for healthy (preferably pink) beans!! startign to feel the gender obsessing already set in...is that normal??

[deaks66]

inglewood, glad dh shown a little remorse for his huff! friday night always a good time to have a chat before the weekend i always think! i like to make a plan on a friday night so i know me and dh on the same wave length...otherwise i find he wakes up on a saturday morning with a totally different idea of what he wants to do over the weekend :)

[2monkeyboys]

Evening ladies,
Yeyyyyyyyy Deaks and Indigo!!!!!! Amazing news, what brill early Xmas pressies! And even better is knowing you can eat all the yummys without feeling guilty. Makes me almost think awww wish I could have the excitement of that bfp... Buuuut then when I re-enter the real world and remember how big of a monkey ds2 has been since Wednesday I seriously doubt my stress levels could cope with the extra hormones! Think he's had a massive old hit of the terrible twos as he is just crazy at the mo.
Hope you are ok Charlie, sending you big (((hugs))). Glad your dh is being more open with you inglewood as it's definitely more of a worry when they bottle it up. Hope your chat goes well. Lavender, I sometimes get the weirdest bubbly knocking feelings in my stomach and make myself laugh by thinking i may be one of those pregnant and don't know it people! Maybe its a phantom pregnancy as I dont wanna be left out haha :)
Xxxxxxx

[indigoviolet]

Yay deaks, so happy we are (hopefully fx for me, I have a bit of a bad history with pg) going to be DD buddies! hee hee, who would have thought!
Don't worry about your line, it is definitely there and I remember from previous pg that the line does get fainter through the day. great you are feeling sick too!! What is your EDD? I think mine is 8th Aug.

[deaks66]

Evening ladies,
Yeyyyyyyyy Deaks and Indigo!!!!!! Amazing news, what brill early Xmas pressies! And even better is knowing you can eat all the yummys without feeling guilty. Makes me almost think awww wish I could have the excitement of that bfp... Buuuut then when I re-enter the real world and remember how big of a monkey ds2 has been since Wednesday I seriously doubt my stress levels could cope with the extra hormones! Think he's had a massive old hit of the terrible twos as he is just crazy at the mo.
Hope you are ok Charlie, sending you big (((hugs))). Glad your dh is being more open with you inglewood as it's definitely more of a worry when they bottle it up. Hope your chat goes well. Lavender, I sometimes get the weirdest bubbly knocking feelings in my stomach and make myself laugh by thinking i may be one of those pregnant and don't know it people! Maybe its a phantom pregnancy as I dont wanna be left out haha :)
Xxxxxxx

yes i have already eaten my body weight in chocolate! having wagamamas tonight without feeling guilty for the first time in months :) :) Sorry ds2 hit the terrible twos.....haaaard work huh! i reckon one day you will have that bfp feeling again...its bliss!

[indigoviolet]

Thanks 2monkeyboys! :HH:

we have missed you on the thread, so nice you are around a bit more. I'm totally dreading the terrible 2's with ds2 especially now I will be pg, grouchy and tired!

[Inglewood]

:cheer:CONGRATULATIONS DEAKS AND INDIGO:cheer: Whoop whoop, what a way to start the weekend! Hear's to a H&H 9mths and a fab xmas eating all the goodies you want!!! lol

[Kell]

Wow indigo there's no denying that a bfp!!! So pleased! Congratulations!

So that's me, you and Deaks all due within a couple of weeks of each other! Here's hoping they are all lovely princesses!!! :)

[indigoviolet]

Kell, wouldn't that be just awesome? What is your due date? July?

[Kell]

Yeh 26/27 July, nice summer babies!! :)

[deaks66]

Yay deaks, so happy we are (hopefully fx for me, I have a bit of a bad history with pg) going to be DD buddies! hee hee, who would have thought!
Don't worry about your line, it is definitely there and I remember from previous pg that the line does get fainter through the day. great you are feeling sick too!! What is your EDD? I think mine is 8th Aug.

mine will be 11th aug!!!!! yippee! so glad you made me check as i told me best mate today it was september.... apparently i cook my babies for 10 months!! ha ha!

[Kell]

yes i have already eaten my body weight in chocolate! having wagamamas tonight without feeling guilty for the first time in months :) :) Sorry ds2 hit the terrible twos.....haaaard work huh! i reckon one day you will have that bfp feeling again...its bliss!

Omg Deaks I'm jealous I actually love wagamamas! Think I'll be harassing oh over the weekend to get us one!

[deaks66]

Yeh 26/27 July, nice summer babies!! :)

ALWAYS wanted a summer baby! oh my god, soooooooo excited!

[zanacal]

Yay, so much happy news here today! Many, many congratulations Deaks and Indigo - I'm so happy for you both :D

[maybepink3]

Oh BIG CONGRATS to you both INDIGO & DEAKS!!!! WOOHOO. So, so pleased for you both. Wishing you happy & healthy pregnancies and hope you're both cooking pink beans xxxx

[indigoviolet]

omg deaks, that is ridiculous, 3 days apart!! Praying for all us pg that we have healthy sticky beans.

btw deaks, am totally obsessing already! especially since I had such a rubbish sway and didn't do half I was planning. Oh well, what will be will be.

Honestly, I was so convinced I was out, I was missing breakfast for the past few days ready to get back on to the diet hardcore. Can't believe how out of tune I am with my body lol.

[deaks66]

omg deaks, that is ridiculous, 3 days apart!! Praying for all us pg that we have healthy sticky beans.

btw deaks, am totally obsessing already! especially since I had such a rubbish sway and didn't do half I was planning. Oh well, what will be will be.

Honestly, I was so convinced I was out, I was missing breakfast for the past few days ready to get back on to the diet hardcore. Can't believe how out of tune I am with my body lol.

Well at least you were missing breakfast! you can always look back in hindsight, i know i am! should have stuck with the liqourice root more (dh only had 3 days worth!), should have used lime, should have waited til cm more creamy etc! But on the upside, at least i didnt concieve using preseed this time!! ha ha what will be, will be!

[Babymad]

Woohoo!! I go out for the day Xmas shopping and I come back to two lovely ladies getting BFP's!! :)
Soooo pleased for you both :) many congrats Deaks and Indigo xx

Lovely to hear from you 2monkeys x

Pleased your DH is opening up Inglewood x

Charlie ~ defo try to get a scan Hun, are you still feeling sick?

[Kell]

Unfortunatly I've been gender obsessing already as well! The sickness gives me hope as never had that before!
Also my boobs are massive already! In fact they were noticeably bigger before I got my bfp again not happened with boys. I'm not sure I'll make it to 20 weeks for a gender scan!

What's this nub thing I've heard you guys talk about?

[Inglewood]

Omg Deaks I'm jealous I actually love wagamamas! Think I'll be harassing oh over the weekend to get us one!

What's a wagamamas??????

[Kell]

What's a wagamamas??????

It's a noodle restaurant, kinda has Japanese style food, I love it! It's real comfort food! Yum yum!

[Sunset]

I'm updating the rollcall at the moment

Pinga and Maybebaby when is your due date??

[Inglewood]

Unfortunatly I've been gender obsessing already as well! The sickness gives me hope as never had that before!
Also my boobs are massive already! In fact they were noticeably bigger before I got my bfp again not happened with boys. I'm not sure I'll make it to 20 weeks for a gender scan!

What's this nub thing I've heard you guys talk about?

I didn't think I coud wait, but 20wks has flown by..... this time my boobs haven't grown and they are usually huge at 6wks and sore!!!

[deaks66]

Unfortunatly I've been gender obsessing already as well! The sickness gives me hope as never had that before!
Also my boobs are massive already! In fact they were noticeably bigger before I got my bfp again not happened with boys. I'm not sure I'll make it to 20 weeks for a gender scan!

What's this nub thing I've heard you guys talk about?

The nub is often seen on a scan pic (in the genital area) between about 11 and 13 weeks and the angle that it points at is believed to indicate whether the baby is boy or girl. Otherwise known as the angle of the dangle!!

[Sunset]

I didn't think I coud wait, but 20wks has flown by.....

i can't believe you're half way through your pregnancy already... isn't a twin pregnancy considered full term at 37 weeks?

[Inglewood]

i can't believe you're half way through your pregnancy already... isn't a twin pregnancy considered full term at 37 weeks?

Not sure sunset, these babies will be born at 36wks, so that's a full term as I will get. Can't believe that means I am half way there already!!!! My 20wk scan being in 10 sleeps! x

[Inglewood]

oops! double mge. x

[Sunset]

Not sure sunset, these babies will be born at 36wks, so that's a full term as I will get. Can't believe that means I am half way there already!!!! My 20wk scan being in 10days! x

10 days :D :D eeeeek! i can't wait to hear your good news ;)



Good night ladies, i'm off to bed now! hope you all have a lovely weekend!! xxx

[Lavenderlime]

Just finished work and Indigo WOW that's an amazing line!! congratulations It's lovely that you and Deaks will be BFP budies. So Pleased you ladies got your BFP before X mas I knew December would be a good month for BFP's:)

I love wagamamas too we go there every year for my Birthday as the nearest one is about an hour away! My birthday is a month away tomorrow so I NEED a December BFP please!

Embryo Development external genital sex organs - angle of the dangle boy or girl ultrasound gender scan - Baby2see (http://www.baby2see.com/gender/external_genitals.html) This is a really good link to explain the whole nub thing! It's addictive though and whenever I now see a friends scan picture the first thing I look for is a nub!

Night ladies x

[maybebabythree]

Oh my goodness! Congratulations deeks and indigo! Hope those beanies stick! H&h 9 months to you both! A lot of sober Christmases all round then! I will try not grin too much if I bump into you on the school run indigo - mums the word (literally!) virtual hugs to you both x

[chocolate]

Sorry ladies, had to do dinner, bath & bed and then spent last age on phone to insurance company, good news is that they realise that the blame doesn't lie with me and I'll be covered by her insurance :)

also.....896

Yay, love seeing those picture, something so amazing about it! Congratulations, now you can eat eat eat :-)


I went out last night for a Christmas Dinner, tons of diet coke but also ate the salt, roast and most of the pudding lol! Very thirsty this morning and due to ovulate this week so back on the diet, yawn!

[Wishing4Pink]

Whoop Whoop!!! Congratulations Indigo on your bfp, here's to a happy and healthy pink bean x

[Wishing4Pink]

Hey sunset, I'm ok thanks hun. Managed to sell the house this week....at last!!! And the day the offer came in a lovely house came up that we both liked, must be fate. Also the postcode at the end is 5DD, 5 being my fav number and DD for obvious reasons - how could i say no, lol. Does mean the ds1 will have to change schools which i slightly gutted about but the schools are good. So going to be very busy packing as they make to exchange b4 xmas and move by mid jan. Hope you, the boys and baby girl are all ok. Can't believe how quick all the pregnancies are going :D

Loving all these bfps at the moment, but making me want mine even more now. I've managed to do the natural contraception way for a year now, but asked my doc for the pill yesterday as i know i won't be able to concentrate when packing/ moving. Does that affect swaying in anyway?

xxx

[Lavenderlime]

Cycle day one at last! better go and order some digital opks now!

[charlieispy]

:bighug: deaks :bighug: indigo HAPPY XMAS lol what a fab early present so so happy for you both x x :cheerteam: team healthy pregnancy :cheerteam:

came on to see what news there was - off again to sit on the sofa - more pains more spotting MW mobile went straight through to message saying she was unavailable till monday GREAT and if worried phone labour ward which I dont think I qualify for that. Am starting to panic now - i know there is nothing i can do but it sucks - i lost my angel at 9wks5days but that was without any spotting or clue anything was wrong - sorry for the downer off to worry oh and DH is working all weekend :(

[Kell]

Charlie I personally think it does warrant speaking to labour ward! Or epu, midwives get paid to help in times of worry! Don't let yourself Feel bad for calling!

[pinga]

Charlie - you poor thing! I hope you manage to see someone... you must be going insane just worrying...

Oh Sunset - my Due Date is 20th June!!

OMG!!!!:omg: Deaks and Indigo... congratulations!!!! Has it sunk in yet!?!?! Such wonderful news!!

maybebabypink - I get you! I've been lost in the world of lying on the couch feeling yuck and going to bed early too!!!

[chocolate]

:bighug: deaks :bighug: indigo HAPPY XMAS lol what a fab early present so so happy for you both x x :cheerteam: team healthy pregnancy :cheerteam:

came on to see what news there was - off again to sit on the sofa - more pains more spotting MW mobile went straight through to message saying she was unavailable till monday GREAT and if worried phone labour ward which I dont think I qualify for that. Am starting to panic now - i know there is nothing i can do but it sucks - i lost my angel at 9wks5days but that was without any spotting or clue anything was wrong - sorry for the downer off to worry oh and DH is working all weekend :(

Hiya, the labour ward isnt just for labour, you can ring them and just ask if they have an early pregnancy unit and explain whats happening. Id probably just say you feel like its getting worse, the worst they can do is say no. xx

[Inglewood]

Hey sunset, I'm ok thanks hun. Managed to sell the house this week....at last!!! And the day the offer came in a lovely house came up that we both liked, must be fate. Also the postcode at the end is 5DD, 5 being my fav number and DD for obvious reasons - how could i say no, lol. Does mean the ds1 will have to change schools which i slightly gutted about but the schools are good. So going to be very busy packing as they make to exchange b4 xmas and move by mid jan. Hope you, the boys and baby girl are all ok. Can't believe how quick all the pregnancies are going :D

Loving all these bfps at the moment, but making me want mine even more now. I've managed to do the natural contraception way for a year now, but asked my doc for the pill yesterday as i know i won't be able to concentrate when packing/ moving. Does that affect swaying in anyway?

xxx

CONGRATS!!!! must be a great feeling to sell and find some place so soon....wish it was me!!! My house not going up for sale till end feb, well whenever we can get the weather to paint outside and finish garden!! Wasn't in a HUGE hurry, but having 2 cots in my room is no chance! My ds1 will have to move schools too as we are in a village, but he's cool with that, hope ur ds1 is too. 5 is my fav no too!!! Not sure about the pill and swaying, but I fell pg with Ds1 on the pill, never missed 1 or was ill.... that was the combined pill tho, heard the mini pill (high in progesterone) might sway girl??????? You should look into it. Diff is with the mini pill u have to take it at the EXACT same time each day.

[Inglewood]

Charlie, I'd defo call Early pg unit, I did twice at the beg on this pg beause of the Pains and once as I fell and was worried. So just phone, that's what they are there and get paid for!!!

Pinga, nice to hear from you, can't believe ur almost 12wks now!! FX after that u feel a bit better? esp in time for xmas..

[charlieispy]

am resting for now - labour ward have never been great before so holding off phoning them x trying to rest and keeping fingers crossed

[Inglewood]

I'm worried today as yest whilst walking round Asda I had the worst pain ever at the left side of Belly button and not that i feel them move much, but usually at night I feel flutters ans pulses, but can't remember the last time I felt even that. Prob thurs night??? Prob worrying about nothing but that pain worried me, like a 'stitch' I had it a week or so but not as bad as yest. Can any of u remember when u 'really' felt the baby move?? each day??? can't remember at 18wks if I felt the boys alot each day or sometimes?? Been 5yrs!! xx

[Inglewood]

Charlie, rest is best!! I'm supposed to be doing a 12,5hr nightshift tonight and I know we are Soooo busy, but gonna go in and take it easy, if the pain comes back I'm going home! At least they can't say I never tried to go in!!

[charlieispy]

I didnt feel ds3 properly till 20wks due to plancenta being at the front x ds2 was about 18wks but with both ds2 and 3 i felt them less as I was busy if that makes sense - not concentrating on feeling them. I remember stitch pains alot i found it coincided with growth spurts of my bump however if you are worried call in x have you got a doppler?

[charlieispy]

can of coke or a weak coffee or sweets might make them move for you x

[deaks66]

Inglewood and Charlie, sorry you are having worries. Hope you can both speak to someone if you feel things aren't getting better.

Not great news here. After having a pregnant on my digital last night, my lines were very faded again this morning and I have been having severe back pain this afternoon. Basically identical symptoms to my chemical last month except I haven't started bleeding yet as the progesterone will be delaying that. Going to test again first thing in the morning but I'm really not hopeful. Just had a long chat to dh and I think my hardcore swaying days are over. I have lost too much weight, I feel unhealthy and I can't cope with the emotional roller coaster anymore.

I might consider sticking with the timing and acidiphilus (that has actually proved much more successful in lowering my ph than the diet) but ditching everything else. I have also just been reading up on what could cause chemicals other than short lp/low progesterone (which wont be the case this cycle) and it's possible that it could be blood clotting which baby aspirin would help prevent so I might start taking that. Need to speak to my doctor and see what she says. I know I sound pessimistic considering I haven't even started bleeding yet but I really don't hold out much chance.

Anyway I'm sorry to be on such downer...again... But I just wanted to explain why I might disappear off the thread, at least for a bit. It's just too hard. X

[Kell]

Deaks Hun I hope your little bean is sticky for you, back pain can be a good sign as well! Fingers crossed for you, but totally understand if you do have a small break, keep us up dated xx

[Wishing4Pink]

CONGRATS!!!! must be a great feeling to sell and find some place so soon....wish it was me!!! My house not going up for sale till end feb, well whenever we can get the weather to paint outside and finish garden!! Wasn't in a HUGE hurry, but having 2 cots in my room is no chance! My ds1 will have to move schools too as we are in a village, but he's cool with that, hope ur ds1 is too. 5 is my fav no too!!! Not sure about the pill and swaying, but I fell pg with Ds1 on the pill, never missed 1 or was ill.... that was the combined pill tho, heard the mini pill (high in progesterone) might sway girl??????? You should look into it. Diff is with the mini pill u have to take it at the EXACT same time each day.

Thanks Inglewood, it's certainly one thing ticked off the list now. Oh wanted to move before we started ttc, so that will keep him happy. We've had the house up for a year nearly and had to refuse a few offers as there was nothing we liked at the time. Ds1 is fine with it, looking forward to it i think. He's had a while to get used to the idea though! I hope you manage to sell quickly so you can get settled hopefully before the babies arrive, fx.

Just re-read my post, and seen all the mistakes...can you tell i'm in pain slightly, lol. Fell down the stairs yesterday with ds2 in my arms. Thankfully he just landed on me and i landed on the wooden floor on my lower back and hit my head hard on the stairs, thankfully oh was there. Really v bruised and sore today though. Can't complain as it could have been alot worse.

xx

[chocolate]

Inglewood and Charlie, sorry you are having worries. Hope you can both speak to someone if you feel things aren't getting better.

Not great news here. After having a pregnant on my digital last night, my lines were very faded again this morning and I have been having severe back pain this afternoon. Basically identical symptoms to my chemical last month except I haven't started bleeding yet as the progesterone will be delaying that. Going to test again first thing in the morning but I'm really not hopeful. Just had a long chat to dh and I think my hardcore swaying days are over. I have lost too much weight, I feel unhealthy and I can't cope with the emotional roller coaster anymore.

I might consider sticking with the timing and acidiphilus (that has actually proved much more successful in lowering my ph than the diet) but ditching everything else. I have also just been reading up on what could cause chemicals other than short lp/low progesterone (which wont be the case this cycle) and it's possible that it could be blood clotting which baby aspirin would help prevent so I might start taking that. Need to speak to my doctor and see what she says. I know I sound pessimistic considering I haven't even started bleeding yet but I really don't hold out much chance.

Anyway I'm sorry to be on such downer...again... But I just wanted to explain why I might disappear off the thread, at least for a bit. It's just too hard. X

Ah Deaks can I understand that, test in the morning and if you think things arent looking good then I think I would drop as much of the sway as you can. Id still generally eat girl friendly food but I would add in a meal a day that you just like without analysing it, and probably the biggest thing would not go hardcore with timing/frequency etc.
Maybe get your plan together and then limit yourself to coming on here every few days or once a week to keep relaxed.

Really hope we hear some good news from you tomorrow am though xx

[zanacal]

I'm sorry deaks, my fingers are crossed that you're wrong and that everything will be ok x

[Sunset]

Evening ladies! I'm in the middle of writing christmas cards and i would love to send some out to my smog ladies so if anyone would like a christmas card please pm me your address :)

Wishing4pink ~ congrats on selling the house!!!! how exciting!! perfect christmas present! :)

Charliespy ~ i'm worried about you hun, please do keep us posted and try and get as much rest as possible!!! ((hugs))

Deaks ~ Oh no :( I'm keeping my fingers crossed you're wrong and that your line is darker again tomorrow when you test! it would be so unfortunate for you to suffer to chemicals 2 months in a row :( and yes, i can definitely understand if you stop the hardcore swaying.. i hope you do decide to stay with us because i will miss you if you don't, but i can also understand why you feel the need for a break from smog.. i'm always here if you need to talk hun ((hugs))

Zanacal ~ less than a week to go :D how are you feeling? getting nervous? :)

[indigoviolet]

Oh gosh how worrying for you both Charlie and Deaks. charlie- when I had bleeding early on and it was the weekend I just went to A&E and got seen to there. They were really understanding and helped reassure me. Maybe you could do that. when does your dh get home? what a complete pain he is away, you don't need that. hugs to you hun, will be praying for you and your little bean :HH:

deaks- praying for you too. i so so hope and pray everything will be OK for you. It is such early days and there is still lots of hope. It is such a worrying time, terrifying in fact.:pray:

[deaks66]

Thanks ladies, I took a baby aspirin tonight having read clotting can prevent proper implantation. Probably useless and too late but had to do something. Will see what tomorrow holds. No bleeding of any type yet but then I wouldn't normally get anything until the eve of 14dpo when on progesterone. Confusingly I don't know whether I would get bleeding early if implantation started but unsuccessful or whether my body would just wait til it would normally dispel lining if bfn from the start. X

[indigoviolet]

Deaks- how are your temps hon? Mine are quite low but still above coverline. That should give you some insight too?
sending you so many sticky, positive vibes :HH:

[deaks66]

Deaks- how are your temps hon? Mine are quite low but still above coverline. That should give you some insight too?
sending you so many sticky, positive vibes :HH:

Thanks Hun. Temping is kinda pointless when on progesterone as it keeps it high anyway. In fact it doesn't seem to drop until cd2 of next cycle. Will temp in morning though to see. Am desperately hoping that I just caught very early hcg levels and that they need another day or so to increase. This wouldn't be beyond possibility would it? I guess because I normally get af by 11dpo, that I might be forgetting that things might be progressing slower with increased progesterone levels? Oh I don't know....so confused.

[indigoviolet]

I forgot that the progesterone would affect your temps...it is really confusing... but implantation could well have only been a couple of days ago and so still really low levels of hcg and so a really faint line. could also depend on concentration on urine etc, was it fmu you used for your last test? Praying tomorrow brings good news.

[deaks66]

I forgot that the progesterone would affect your temps...it is really confusing... but implantation could well have only been a couple of days ago and so still really low levels of hcg and so a really faint line. could also depend on concentration on urine etc, was it fmu you used for your last test? Praying tomorrow brings good news.

Yes tested with fmu this morning and ic and frer basically same as yesterday.... Pretty faint. But during course of day have got lighter to barely there and have hardly been drinking at all.

[maybepink3]

Deaks, hang on in there. I had incredible back ache a few days before I found out. Keeping everything crossed for you that you get 2 stronger lines tomorrow x

[HopeandDreamG]

Congrats Deaks... Hoping your lines get darker and darker..been thinking of you after your experience last month :) Fingers crossed for you!!

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks I hope the morning brings you good news. Night all x

[deaks66]

Definately only a hint of a line today that you have to squint at to see. Better get the roll call updated to deaks ttc....again. This is a pretty depressing situation to be in again but I will get to the bottom of it. Gonna head to the docs tomorrow and relax the diet/supps. Also what do you ladies think of the following?

If i take baby aspirin am I right in thinking I should not take the cranberry?

Also do you think if would be ok to either drink lots of milk each day OR take the calcium supps.... Which would be best? Whatever I do I want to stay consistent but I just don't want to be doing everything anymore.

Thinking of making sure my o+12 is no later than 36hrs after +opk and even bd nearer to ov and putting dh on the liq. Root again as he didn't take this this time and I still had chemical. Have heard it makes most swimmers female...what do you reckon?

Lastly Tamara reckons its very rare to have ewcm with low ph but I'm sure that is what the acidiphilus has done for me...has anyone else experienced this and do you think it gives male or female swimmers the advantage?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to get things sorted in my head.

Hope you are all doing well X

[Kell]

Sorry Deaks I don't know the answers, wish I could help!
Thinking of you! I hope this is not the end of this pregnancy and that af doesn't arrive x

[indigoviolet]

Gosh deaks, this situation is so so stressful and horrible for you. Remember you are still not out and there is HOPE.

Will be praying hon:HH: Really hope this all ends with a positive outcome.

charlie- how are you doing today? :pray: for you too

[charlieispy]

Oh deaks - i really hope your bean sticks - are you using exactly the same type of tests and urine?? Also HCG takes 48 to double I tested everyday till i had no tests left and some days didnt see it get any darker from the day before x I am keeping everything crossed for you x x

Love to all you ladies - thank you for thinking of me - I sat on my arse as much as i could with ds3 being the PITA that he is right now (love him but he is HARD work scaling every object possible and at the stage where emptying anything and everything out just because) Mum took the older boys overnight and DH let me lie in am as of this morning no spotting - fear it will return if i go to work tomorrow though but i feel bad phoning in sick :( I have MW tomorrow afternoon so will quiz her then x

hope you are all ok x x try and get back on later off for a shower/bath whatever ds3 allows!!

[indigoviolet]

charlie- hope you get your rest. Glad you got a lie-in. My ds2 is just the same at the moment, totally exhausting and exasperating, wanting everything and everything, climbing and just so full of energy. I know this is a wonderful age but I'm struggling at the moment too. Of course we love them but they are just such handfulls. wish we could get them together and they could exhaust eachother! Glad no spotting today. Have you phoned in sick with this pg? if not I think you can definitely have tomorrow off, you have good reason and do need to rest. good luck hon.:HH:

[charlieispy]

I am going to text my manager and say i can come in but have to take it easy extra breaks etc or if easier i wont come in x dh doesnt want me to go in at all tomorrow is also the stage I lost my mc baby really want to fast forward to my scan!!

indigo - sounds like we have similar monkeys ;) indy is a climber much worse than my other boys he is super cheeky too - we only had him last night and he totally used it to his advantage not going to sleep till late snacking on all DH's crisps etc....being a wotsit but too cute too! He is napping now after a morning of similar antics! Has your BFP sunk in yet?? :D

Deaks keeping all crossed for you x

[indigoviolet]

Charlie- that sounds like a good plan, if in doubt, don't go in, you have to do what is right for you and the baby.

Indy sounds so cute but yes, just like my little one,SUCH a monkey and nothing like his older brother. I'm just not used to having to watch him all the time (ds1 was just so 'sensible'!), he was eating chalk this morning and emptying baskets, climbing on the kitchen surface (from a little stool), chewing christmas decorations....the list goes on. he's having a nap now thank goodness!

No bfp not sunk in at all! Dh only home yesterday so we have been talking about it a lot, our house is pretty small as is our car so we're going to have to make changes (if sticky bean fx). Obviously havn't told anyone, I love having a secret like this!

[indigoviolet]

Lavender- loving your new ticker! Praying this is your month!! What is your plan/ attempt?

[maybebabythree]

Deaks so sorry your going through this. Don't take aspirin with cranberry I am on aspirin and have to stop by 36 weeks or risk losing too blood in labour. Ask your doc to refer you to the fertily clinic.

Wishing hope your ok now? How scary. Also Charlie I hope you can relax this week. My work wouldn't take care of me and the feeling is mutual when I felt worn out I didn't go in as I knew they would pile on the pressure regarless of my pg.

Dh is getting on my wick again. Supposed to have quit smoking but he was at ruby all day yesterday with his cousin. I thought he had started again so I said to his cousin that dh didn't quit for long. Basically got his cousin to confirm it without asking him outright. Told dh I was pissed and he said it was only one day. But non smokers don't smoke! Also my sister is buying me my pram now. He can buy iTunes tags and DVDs on his credit card and never thinks about how the rest of us go without. Worst thing is he never learns and always defends his actions. Where as I save and work hard and go without so the kids are ok. I think I am beginning to hate him. After 20 years I no longer like him and mostly wish I had never met him.

[Lavenderlime]

I think I am beginning to hate him. After 20 years I no longer like him and mostly wish I had never met him.

Oh maybe I actually felt this way about my DP over the Summer. We have only been together 7 years but he was doing my head in always working, his normal hours overtime and weekends. Not spending enough time with the boys unless it was when he had to watch them because I was working evenings. Not pulling his weight around the house etc. etc. every little thing that he did wrong just added to this resentment I was building up and we hardly talked. I actually wanted to leave him and was prepared to but My MIL made us try and work at it and talk it out and we did and actually hating someone and telling them that was such a big relief. And just getting that out and letting him know how I felt was such a weight off my shoulders and once that was in the open it made it much easier. DP still works alot but asks first to see if it's ok and we make more of an effort to do stuff together these days and have more of a laugh. I feel so much better now about our whole relationship and feel much stronger for it.

I hope you will be able to talk and things through with him. Actually telling him how he is making you feel towards him and not how you feel about his actions may be the shock that is needed for him to change some of the behaviour that is really upsetting you. Big hugs x

[Lavenderlime]

Lavender- loving your new ticker! Praying this is your month!! What is your plan/ attempt?

Thank you Indigo!
You now get to choose a Pregnancy ticker! I can't wait until I can graduate onto one of those! :)

Well I'm getting DP to abstain from day 7 of my cycle so that should be for 8 days+ depending on O being on CD 15 or maybe later with my cycles out of whack.

I'm going to use rePHresh and a one shot O+12 attempt. Think that's about it!

I 'm also going to drinks very concentrated crystal light and cranberry juice between cycle day 8 and O. as well as usual IG diet and all my regular sups.
Also DP is off work for a couple of weeks from the 16th so that makes the whole O+12 thing so much easier hopefully :).

Deaks I really hope you aren't out so sorry you are feeling so low I have everything crossed for a sticky bean. x

[Kell]

Oh god maybe, could it be hormone related hate? I get why you feel so frustrated tho, it's not fair that the saving is only one sided!

[deaks66]

Thanks maybe and so sorry you are going through such a hard time with dh...hope you can work through it as lavender says but men can be very stubborn at times can't they.

Lavender can I ask do you worry that rephresh will mask ov symptoms and so make o+12 harder to pinpoint?

[Lavenderlime]

Thanks maybe and so sorry you are going through such a hard time with dh...hope you can work through it as lavender says but men can be very stubborn at times can't they.

Lavender can I ask do you worry that rephresh will mask ov symptoms and so make o+12 harder to pinpoint?

Well to be honest i've never actually tried to accurately pinpoint O as I don't temp, never really looked into checking my cervix or really tried.

I'm just going to go for 36 hours after first OPK really. I think rephresh will keep my ph at a constant low level and instantly react with dP's sperm as it makes contact with the rePHresh.

Quite relaxed about my O+12 as It what makes most sense to me timing wise, but to me timing is really the least important factor and hardest to control. So just going to do my best by trying to lower the amount of overall sperm from dp abstaining and make the conditions as girl friendly pH wise as possible and just hope a little X gets to the egg first and in time!

[Inglewood]

Keep getting double posts?????????

[Inglewood]

Deaks, hope thing are ok? Was nightshift last night, so just catching up. I still got some ewcm with the acidophilus, but not as thick and 'blobby' lol My Dh took 2 liq root a day as I read it sways girl, so FX on the 13th I'm praising it!!

Charlie, glad ur taking it a bit easier, my bump pain wasn't as bad and my workmates were great about it, I didn't move a single patient that was too heavy.

Maybe, sorry to hear ur Dh is 'mis-behaving' with his credit card again! Prob have said b4, but my Dh and I were so close to a split about 2-3yrs ago and went to relate couple counselling, it was so good and helped Dh realise he's alot more selfish than he thought he was! He's a hands on dad and great with housework etc.... no complaints there and he gives me all his wages in our joint acct, just take his cig money on a friday for the week, but a grumpy, moody guy, little emotion and not a romantic bone in is body!! Was only a £10-20 donation each visit, whatever we could afford that wk.

Wishing, hope ur better today?

Lavender, LOVE ur xmas ticker!!

Hope everyone else is ok? off to make tea, dh wall papering, my mum has boys at cinema to see Arthur Christmas and I'm not long out my bed!!! Spk later. x

[maybebabythree]

Maybe some of it is hormones but mostly it's genuine bad feeling towards him and his selfish ways. Everyone likes him he is funny and caring but useless as a husband when it comes to supporting me. I think I might him to go to councilling should have done that when I first found out about the card. Thanks x

[Sunset]

Evening ladies.

Deaks ~ I'm so sorry!! I'm still keeping my fx af doesn't turn up! would you like me update the rollcall to ttc?

Lavenderlime ~ love your new ticker!! when is your first attempt? are you excited? :)

Maybebaby ~ Oh no, i'm so sorry to hear you're feeling so upset with your dh at the moment.. i don't blame you though, i would be pretty pissed too!

Charliespy ~ when is your scan booked for? hope you manage to get some rest!!

Hello to everyone else!!! hope you've all had a nice weekend :) xx

[charlieispy]

maybe - how you describe your DH is very much like mine at times so I feel your pain - the longing for someone else to be the sensible one the one who says no I cant afford that rather than it always resting on your shoulders. I find he doesnt see how his actions affect us as a family. We are in alot of debt due to student loans plus his personal credit card debt - my mum bailed him out but he will be paying that off for 4 years......if he didnt have to pay that we could go on a lovely holiday at least once a year be able to have savings incase the car breaks oh and he wouldnt have to work overtime every weekend....I hope you can get him to go to councilling maybe go together too so you can vent too x at the moment mine is behaving although he ordered a new credit card to get an ipad i hit the roof needless to say there is no ipad and no credit card x hugs hun i hope you sort things out x

am only working a short shift tomorrow thank god bless my manager she is good x mw at 3.30 x my scan is next sat sunset cant come soon enough

[chocolate]

Hey everyone, hope your all well and had good weekends!

Charlie hope your spotting has stopped - only read the last 2 pages so didnt see if it had.

Deaks - hope the drs go well and you can get an action plan together. I started the acidi tabs yesterday and had a tiny amount of egg white today but this cycle its mostly been creamy and not a lot of it, but my PH has spiked to 6.6 today and that was a day after dtd but also using replens.

Hope everyone else is all good and gearing up for Christmas, put our tree up today!

I thought I was due to ovulate but not sure if I have yet or whats going on, opk's have almost been positive for days but the line is mostly darkest in the am but I read LH is weakest then so maybe Im all backwards, wouldnt be suprised with my stupid PCOS hormones lol.
I stupidly forgot to chart my temp this am at 6am but went back to bed and took it after an hour or 2 extra sleep and it was really high, but am not taking that as a sign of ovulation as it was taken hours later than normal and cervix has been playing tricks on me the last few days, one minute it seems open and soft and then it closes again and does it all again! Must remember to take my temp in the am.

Off to Butlins Friday, can't wait but know the diet will go out the window, hope I ovulate before then.

[maybebabythree]

Charlie - dh wanted me to get him a iPad for Xmas but I am only spending about £20 on him. If he wants a treat then you can gaurantee he will get in anyway for himself. Our dinning chair has Brooken so no way for us to all sit round the table for Christmas dinner but what is that in comparison of going without fags? Will tell him sister is buying pram as she feels sorry for me as she knows he can't afford it. That will piss him off!

[Lavenderlime]

Just wanted to post this as I've done one for DS1, DS2 is a bit little yet!

http://www.portablenorthpole.tv/home

You can add a photo and Santa actually says your childs name (don't think it did that last year) Thought some of your boys might like a message from santa to promote some good behaviour between now and Christmas and if they've been really cheaky put them on the naughty list :D can't wait to see Ds's face tomorrow!

Night x

[Inglewood]

Babymad, love ur Fb announcement!! I haven't done it yet, not like me, but doing it on 13th, won't say the gender, just say I'm pg! Looking at ur scan pic it looks very girly to me. xx

[Inglewood]

Just did the PNP santa video's for the boys, love it! Ordered a big bertha bean bag for the boys on Groupon for £40!! was £135!!! and Dh has almost finished our living room, so out the dining room and back in living room now and I wrapped my secret santa!! A great night! Of to my bed now, nite ladies. x

[Inglewood]

Just wanted to post this as I've done one for DS1, DS2 is a bit little yet!

Santa | PNP - Portable North Pole | Free personalized video message (http://www.portablenorthpole.tv/home)

You can add a photo and Santa actually says your childs name (don't think it did that last year) Thought some of your boys might like a message from santa to promote some good behaviour between now and Christmas and if they've been really cheaky put them on the naughty list :D can't wait to see Ds's face tomorrow!

Night x

The boys loved it last year!! I was much the same, names, adding pic's but it's so good. Although don't think ds1 (who is 9) will be too convinced this year????

[Kell]

Oh god this weekend I've been so sick! I'm so scared of eating as well because it seems to make me feel worse! My house is a mess because I just don't feel upto doing much! Fun times!

The Santa thing looks good! I'll have to have a go!!

[Inglewood]

Oh god this weekend I've been so sick! I'm so scared of eating as well because it seems to make me feel worse! My house is a mess because I just don't feel upto doing much! Fun times!

The Santa thing looks good! I'll have to have a go!!

Your exactly at the stage it started with me this pg! Hot water and crackers, sometimes shortbread was what I could eat and keep down. Feel for u so much. x

[Lavenderlime]

Awe Kell hugs you poor thing. x

Inglewood have you felt anymore movement with the twins?

DS1 don't think I felt him move way past 20 weeks but at 20 weeks I just looked like I'd had a big meal and was slightly bloated.

DS2 I think was about 14-16 weeks and felt like little bubbles to start with not kicking or anything. I also started showing much earlier.

The materials I ordered to make my secret Santa present arrived today So hope to get the time to make it one evening this week and get it posted out at the weekend. So excited.

Charlie how are you today hope your short day at work went ok and you get some re-assurance from the midwife this afternoon!

Deaks how are things today?

Sunset do you have a bump picture? I bet it's pretty impressive now even though your so tiny!

[deaks66]

Hi lavender, things ok today, bleeding finally started properly though have had spotting for couple of days. Getting my next attempt finalised and feeling better about staying on the diet a little longer but not quite as intensely! You are good getting materials for your ss! im struggling with mine a bit, but gonna get it sorted soon! X

[Sunset]

Sunset do you have a bump picture? I bet it's pretty impressive now even though your so tiny!

I don't actually :S I have to get around to taking a pic this week lol but let me tell you, i'm not so tiny anymore! i've gained far more weight in this pregnancy than i ever did with the boys so i feel like a walking beach whale at the moment :/ it all seems to collect on my bum and thighs haha horrendous :rofl:
how long until your attempt? :)

[Sunset]

Hi lavender, things ok today, bleeding finally started properly though have had spotting for couple of days. Getting my next attempt finalised and feeling better about staying on the diet a little longer but not quite as intensely! You are good getting materials for your ss! im struggling with mine a bit, but gonna get it sorted soon! X

oh no :( sorry af showed!!!

[Sunset]

Oh god this weekend I've been so sick! I'm so scared of eating as well because it seems to make me feel worse! My house is a mess because I just don't feel upto doing much! Fun times!

The Santa thing looks good! I'll have to have a go!!

oh no :( i'm sorry to hear you're suffering at the moment... did you have sickness with the boys or is this all new?

[charlieispy]

Hi all

oh Deaks huge hugs hun are you going to go to the doctors again?? Thinking of you x

Kell - with you on the sickness x huge hugs it sucks doesnt it x

just got back from MW omg it was horrid couldnt get any blood been poked and prodded and alas nothing back tomorrrow for another go - mentioned the spotting etc but the appointment was so long it kind of got forgotten amongst the stress of bloods or lack of it x they told me to ring in if it happens again so just praying for a healthy baby on saturday prayers please x

[Babymad]

Hi everyone.....

Deaks - so sorry hun, praying that line gets darker hun. Have you done CB again?

Charlie - not long until your scan!!

Inglewood - thx hun, I wasnt going to 'announce' it on FB but decided too in the end, everyone has been really nice, I just wanted to avoid all the 'girl' comments but luckliy only a couple of people have commented on that!!
Cant wait for your scan!!

Maybe - I would defo try and get to relate, lots of hugs

[Babymad]

Just seen your post deaks, lots of hugs x

Kell - its awful isnt it, hugs!!

Lavender - I love PNP :)

[Babymad]

Sorry your app wasnt great charlie, they struggle getting blood out of me too... Its not nice! It can be b/c you are dehydrated, so try to drink lots before you go tomorrow x

[Babymad]

Be fab to see a bump pic Sunset :)

[Babymad]

Hey everyone, hope your all well and had good weekends!

Charlie hope your spotting has stopped - only read the last 2 pages so didnt see if it had.

Deaks - hope the drs go well and you can get an action plan together. I started the acidi tabs yesterday and had a tiny amount of egg white today but this cycle its mostly been creamy and not a lot of it, but my PH has spiked to 6.6 today and that was a day after dtd but also using replens.

Hope everyone else is all good and gearing up for Christmas, put our tree up today!

I thought I was due to ovulate but not sure if I have yet or whats going on, opk's have almost been positive for days but the line is mostly darkest in the am but I read LH is weakest then so maybe Im all backwards, wouldnt be suprised with my stupid PCOS hormones lol.
I stupidly forgot to chart my temp this am at 6am but went back to bed and took it after an hour or 2 extra sleep and it was really high, but am not taking that as a sign of ovulation as it was taken hours later than normal and cervix has been playing tricks on me the last few days, one minute it seems open and soft and then it closes again and does it all again! Must remember to take my temp in the am.

Off to Butlins Friday, can't wait but know the diet will go out the window, hope I ovulate before then.

Hope you ov soon! Have fun at butlins :)

[Sunset]

Inglewood - thx hun, I wasnt going to 'announce' it on FB but decided too in the end, everyone has been really nice, I just wanted to avoid all the 'girl' comments but luckliy only a couple of people have commented on that!!


I noticed 2 people or something made girl comments :( it's so insensitive in my opinion when they do that on a public forum like FB. I hope it didn't upset you too much, just try and ignore thoughtless people and their comments (although i know that's easier said than done :hug2:

[zanacal]

I noticed 2 people or something made girl comments :( it's so insensitive in my opinion when they do that on a public forum like FB. I hope it didn't upset you too much, just try and ignore thoughtless people and their comments (although i know that's easier said than done :hug2:

I got lots of that when I posted I was pregnant on FB too. Some of those ladies knew I wanted to try for a girl (and the comments still annoyed me!) but when people I rarely see say 'FX it's a girl this time' it really annoys me - makes me feel protective of my boys!

[Sunset]

Chocolate ~ that's strange.. i think what they mean is that you shouldn't test with fmu because LH hormone is always present in the urine so can give you a false positive if you test with fmu because of how concentrated the urine will be. the lh surge (from how i've understood it) usually starts early on a morning and surges between 1-3pm or around that time. someone please correct me if i'm totally wrong.
Have fun at Butlins :)

[Sunset]

I got lots of that when I posted I was pregnant on FB too. Some of those ladies knew I wanted to try for a girl (and the comments still annoyed me!) but when people I rarely see say 'FX it's a girl this time' it really annoys me - makes me feel protective of my boys!

I know that feeling! girl comments always make me feel like a super protective lioness! I didn't get comments on my profile on FB as such, but i had people send me private messages asking if i'm wanting a girl this time.. like, why would anyone think to send someone a private message to say congrats and are you hoping for a girl???

[deaks66]

Chocolate ~ that's strange.. i think what they mean is that you shouldn't test with fmu because LH hormone is always present in the urine so can give you a false positive if you test with fmu because of how concentrated the urine will be. the lh surge (from how i've understood it) usually starts early on a morning and surges between 1-3pm or around that time. someone please correct me if i'm totally wrong.
Have fun at Butlins :)

You can definately test fmu with clearblue opks. Just not others. X

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls, by have you all been busy 17 pages already and were only the 5th day into dec!!!!!!

Deaks - Boo For the BFN!!! i so know how you feel! ive been yo yo'ing on this diet for around 7 months and decided last cycle that i was going to give myself a break and have stopped everything, supps ,diet, charting ,the lot. i just felt i was getting obsessed with it all and it seemed to take over my life. Constantly thinking about it all the time. think that has been a major part in why i havent been coming on here so much as i dont want it all to get such a chore! constant research has been frazzling my brain!! And like you said i should just be happy with what i have already. Im going to get Xmas out the way and the new year and start taking supps and doing hardcore diet again. I hope you are okay! big hugss to you

Lavenderlime - not long till your attempt!!! your wait seems to have flew by hope you have a successfull first attempt! Love the PNP my dp always sets it up for the boys to watch every year. its lovely

hiya to eveyone else! hope you are all okay!!! Nothing much going on here. off for a soak in the bath and attempt to get ds2 to go to sleep as he seems to stay awake untill i go to bed nowadays! little rascal!!!

[indigoviolet]

Oh no Deaks, just seeing this now :(:sad: ((hugs)) to you. I wish things could have been different. I'm so so sad for you....


Charlie- sorry you had a hard time at the mw. Praying for you and your little bean. I'm sure you will have a good experience on Saturday, I know how worried you must be though.

I've packed and parcled my SS present, posting later this week! :)

It was lovely seeing so many lovely comments Babymad but those couple of girl comments, ugh:mad:

[deaks66]

Good for you littlemiss! Wish I had the willpower and patience to take a proper break but as the months go on I get broodier and broodier! You will have such a wonderful Christmas without having to worry about swaying! Will you still attempt at all? Hope you got ds2 off to sleep quickly and enjoyed your bath. You inspired me to do the same and then get an early night X

[deaks66]

Oh no Deaks, just seeing this now :(:sad: ((hugs)) to you. I wish things could have been different. I'm so so sad for you....


Charlie- sorry you had a hard time at the mw. Praying for you and your little bean. I'm sure you will have a good experience on Saturday, I know how worried you must be though.

I've packed and parcled my SS present, posting later this week! :)

It was lovely seeing so many lovely comments Babymad but those couple of girl comments, ugh:mad:

Thanks hun, been making a conscious effort to pick myself up quickly and focus on the next cycle. Feeling ok. X

[indigoviolet]

Good night all, lots of love :HH:

[zanacal]

I'm so sorry Deaks, that's really crappy. I'm glad you're feeling ok x

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Wow I have missed a lot over the past few days its been mega busy!!

Deaks I am so sorry hun, its good to hear though that you have a new plan in place and I hope you feel better soon Hugs :heart:

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Indigo so sorry I missed your exciting news, CONGRATULATIONS on your BFP !! :)

[pinga]

deaks - so sorry.... you must be so gutted. Relaxing a few sway things is probably a great idea and will hopefully make the whole process less intense and stressful.

Charlie - hope you're doing ok and you've had no more spotting....

zanacal - wow you're having your gender scan on Thursday!!!! Are you nervous/excited??? My friend asked me today if I'm finding out. I said we haven't decided yet but we definitely are... I'm just not sure if I want to share the gender with everyone.

My brother is visiting from the UK next week with his 18 month old daughter. So that will be lovely. He's never been over to Australia and I haven't seen him for 2 years. Probably won't able to get on here for that week.

I have my 12 week scan on Friday. Am taking MIL - she is very excited. We had a birthday gathering on the weekend and my FIL said to me in front of other people 'You won't be wanting wine'. I was a bit cross. We aren't telling people until after my scan.... arghhhh - some people can't keep secrets!!!!! Useless! I think I'm going to ask for a nub shot. Although I don't want to stress over is it/isn't it.... oh well....

I'm starting to have better days. I still get really tired.... went into the city this morning to see the Myer Windows - Christmas window display for the kiddies and DS1 and his friend refused to go and see Father Christmas. Its odd sitting outside in the glorious sunshine surrounded by decorations and Christmas trees with Christmas music playing. Flaked out when I got home :D

[Kell]

Lol Pinga I can't imagine being in Australia at Christmas time, Christmas in the summer seems odd! Santa must get flaming hot lol!
Awww bet you can't wait for your brother to come see you!

Deaks I'm so sorry af arrived, but glad your positive!!

Charlie good luck with Saturday!

Not much going on in my life really! I'm very boring!

[Kell]

Oh Pinga forgot to mention your scan!! How exciting!! I think I'm going to ask for a nub shot as well when I get mine, still got a while to wait tho! Good luck Friday!

[Sunset]

Good morning ladies :)

Threelittlemen ~ lovely to hear from you again! are you all sorted for christmas now? :)

Pinga ~ good luck with your scan, how exciting! you have to post your u/s pic for us all to see :) I couldn't imagine what it's like celebrating christmas when it's summer outside, a bit surreal i bet :p how long have you lived in australia for?

Kell ~ lol I bet you're not boring :p

Charliespy ~ I will keep you in my thoughts on saturday, i do anyway though! i really hope you're bean is growing stronger everyday despite spotting!! i can only imagine how worried you must be!

Deaks ~ I'm glad you're feeling ok! it's really not fair what you've been through these last 2 months :( did you see the doctor?

Indigo ~ how are you feeling? any MS yet?

AFM, Taking DS1 this morning to get his preschool booster jab.. i didn't even know he was due anymore jabs so soon :S and then after that we're going into town to find an animal outfit for ds1's nativity :)
I have also finished packing baby's hospital bag. it's stood in my hallway just waiting to be used now and i have to say i'm amazed with myself. I've never before had a packed hospital bag ready so that's why i said to myself i would do it super early this time so there's no way I go into labour before and usually i'm not very organised but here it is, packed and ready! :D i can definitely relax now.. but i'm sure that because it's packed and ready i'll probably stay pregnant for the full 40 weeks haha :rofl:

[Lavenderlime]

Morning,

Chocolate hope you're having some lovely family time away hope this helps the start of 2ww go nice and quickly for you!

Deaks you have such a positive attitude :) I really hope that maybe we can be bump budies I still think there is room for some more December BFP!

Zancal, Pinga andCharlie I hope both your scans go well this week! EEk Zanacal can't believe you'll hopefully know the sex in a few days time!! Pinga I'd ask for a nub shot too, it's only for fun after all!

Kell hope your not feeling as sick and managing to eat.

Sunset get snapping, I bet you look lovely :) so do you think the whole carrying girls to boys theory is true? I Carried both my boys out front and didn't look pregnant from behind until the very last few weeks, then I got massive but It was mostly water weight and I only had 7lb 1, and 7lb 4 babies:D

Hello TLMAC :)

LMW I can't believe my attempt has come around so soon either eek hopefully it'll be around some time next weekend!

I'm actually finding it really hard to eat enough on this diet now as I'm just not hungry anymore and really gone off food. I weighed myself and have lost 10lb now and my top half looks a bit underweight ass my ribs are sticking out a bit and my boobs have shrunk :( but I've still got lots of fat left on my bum and thighs :D LOL I wish the weight would drop of those areas first!

[Sunset]

Lavenderlime ~ I lost quite a bit of weight on the girl diet as well.. in the end my size 6 jeans were loose on me :S eugh! it really wasn't healthy! but hang in there, hopefully you won't have to wait long for your bfp! i don't know if it's gender related, but i have gained alot more weight in this pregnancy and i started filling out alot sooner as well. mind you alot of it is fluid retention (luckily) so i don't know if it's because it's my 3rd pregnancy or because it's a girl this time..? i hardly gained any weight at all with the boys. I never looked pregnant from behind, but this time it's all over the place, thighs, bum, love handles, neck etc etc :rofl: but then i can't help but think perhaps it's because i was so skinny when i fell pregnant because of the girl diet so perhaps that's why i feel like i've gained a ton of weight? hmm..
so your attempt might be next weekend? :D are you all sorted and ready to go? :D

[Sunset]

btw i'm loving all the christmas tickers!! :D

[Inglewood]

Does anyone shop at JOJO MAMAN BEBE??

Got a voucher code for 15% off and free delivery till 18th Dec- MTF12

[Inglewood]

Just got my next maternity order thru, thought I should order a bigger size than I am now (thinking ahead) and nothing fits!! arghhhh!!!!! Luckily ordered 2 pair of jeans and 2 tops my size now and although they are a bit big, they will be required as my butt and thighs expand!!! lol Everyone at work saying I have a noticeable bump now and look very pg, well at 19wks almost I'd hope so! Put on 7lbs now...actually happy with that as with twin pg's the mum needs to gain a little more weight than usual, but I'm still in my normal size work uniform oddly! Last time was out it at 15/16wks.

Was working last night so desp to get to bed, but been on the phone for ages querying a refund on my next acct that didn't go thru! Now off the phone, off to bed now. We have no water from 8am-8pm, so lots of water bottles filled. Routine maintenance! today and tomorrow! My ds2 was off school yest with a bad cold and I sent him today but hope I don't get a phone call from the school. He seems alot better and was desp to go back, much to ds1's horror!

Babymad, I'm actually looking forward to saying on FB that I am pg and adding the 'Twin' bit.... bet I get lots of 'girl' comments too and I'm kinna ok with that as I don't think I could hear any that I haven't heard this past 2 mths. Never had a horrible comment, just people saying " a wee girl would be nice (or 2 now), but I'm sure u'll be just as happy with another 2 lovely boys" only 1 person have said they are "praying these are girls for me" but I just laughed, secretly thinking "me too". The comments, so far haven't been as bad as I thought they would be, but wait till I put it on FB!! lol You do have lots of lovely wishes and thoughts. x

Can't believe Z finds out the gender in 2 sleeps!! FXFXFX I have 7 sleeps till I find out...feels like forever!

Well, finally off the phone.... off to catch some zzzzzz's nite ladies, catch up later. x

[charlieispy]

Hi ladies,

OMG Z not long to go how are you feeling???

Inglewood - YAY for a bump I really hope you will be posting your little girls on FB soon ;) ohno for the clothes being too big however better than too small ;)

Sunset - bet you look fabulous - they do say you gain everywhere with girls and with my 3 boys i was like you didnt show from the back at all.

Deaks thinking of you x

indigo - hope you are still smiling about your secret :D

maybe - how are you x did you talk to DH??

Lavender - good luck with your attempt x FX

AFM - the lovely lady got blood first time this morning thank god x so that is done! Made tray bake for ds2 preschool bazaar - not loving cooking right now! Also put a deposit down on a holiday next august! Wanted something good to think about bit stressed about baby etc and this year we didnt go a proper holiday had 4 nights away in june and that was it the whole year - we cant really afford much but decided if we book it now more likely to pay it off sooner and save for the spending money. So in august (yes i know all going well i will have a 5-6wk old baby!) we have booked a Yurt in the south of france :D the people who run it say you can drive down in a day but we plan to stop once due to baby and ds3 etc but it was 395 for a week FX for good weather - it has electricity, water access to a pool near a manmade beach and a few little villages - cant wait oh and they provide cots bedding etc can even ask them to get shopping in when you arrive and a cooked meal! Very hippy but very me so excited!!! Just need saturday to be a good day too now :D

[charlieispy]

inglewood - 7 sleeps!!!

4 sleeps for me for fx happy button

[Sunset]

I think I might be nesting a bit as i've been cleaning like a mad person these last few days.. not that it does much good unfortunately... once i've tidied one room the boys have trashed another :rofl:

Took ds1 for his preschool jabs this morning and it was horrible. 2 injections and he cried bless him! i felt like the most terrible mother in the world, but luckily a lollypop from the nurse and a little chocolate santa and all is forgotten.

Inglewood ~ yay for a bump :) I too hope to see you announce the news on FB soon :) i love how organised you are! I've been living in 2 pairs of lazy pants this entire pregnancy because i can't be bothered to buy more maternity jeans. I have 1 pair but they're far too uncomfortable so i only wear them if it's a must lol

Charliespy ~ Sounds like a great little holiday you've booked. where did you find it? :) not long to go for your scan :)

[Kell]

Oh dear, I've got a little issue!
Before I fell of, I started looking for a part time job, an agency contacted me as yet saw my cv on line and put me forward for a job, I've been offered an interview tomorrow! I don't know what to do, I could just go to the interview and not say a word or do I tell te agent? So confused!

[maybebabythree]

Charlie I did talk to dh. He was very good yesterday looking in the loft for hours for baby things. He has been sent back up there tonight. Told him if things stay they same we are off to relate in the new year and he said ok so it's a start.

Indigo - I wanted to give you a hug today and say congratulations! But I behaved! So mad I missed ds1 Christmas concert! Grrhhh! Plus tomorrow he has Tudor feast and they all dressing up. I said I couldn't be bovered but all the other mums have got outfits. He is going in as a knight as I had that outfit already. The boys are going in as Henry the eighth! Like he would wear that again:-/ when I was a kid it was a tea towel and your undies! Kids these days ...

How you feeling deaks? Have a massive curry and a bottle of wine and relax over Christmas.

[maybebabythree]

Kell go for that job btw

[Lavenderlime]

Kell you don't have to tell them your pregnant at this stage unless the nature of the job might have a negative impact on your pregnancy health and safetly and all that jazz. I changed jobs when I was 11 weeks pregnant with DS1 but did tell them. Luckily I'd worked there before and they were in a tight spot so my past experience was more important than the fact I wasn't going to stay for the long haul.

I suppose it's how you feel about it. Do you think it will hinder your chances of getting the job if they knew? I know that they can't not hire you on that basis but may find another excuse or pick someone else over you because of it.

Charlie that holiday sounds fab! We stayed at one of the featherdown farms Feather Down Farm Days (http://www.featherdown.co.uk/) in Devon glamping at the end of the summer! And it was lovely it's like a large canvas tent with a wooodburning stove and large farmhouse table inside and beds. We had our own chicken coop outside which the boys loved! There are lots of pictures on their website. Think it was £300 for a week so a very cheap family holiday there was only four of us but the tents sleep six, so a great value holiday for those of you that'll have 4 kids! Can't speak of it highly enough and they have farms all over the country. Great holiday for a few families to go on at the same time as the kids can all play in the field whilst the adults drink wine:D.

DP did wonder if they did simular things abroad so your holiday sounds right up our street!

Sunset unfortunately the diet is all too easy to stick to all i've eaten today is a bowl of rice crispies at 2pm and drunk some milk and I am in no way hungry!?? I'm sure this is how eating disorders start! Hopefully when I get my BFP i'll regain a normal attitude to food i've always been a massive foodie as well!

[Inglewood]

Charlie, will be thinking of u sat, sure ur wee one is ding just fine, fab news about ur holiday!! Wish I could think that far ahead!!

Kell, you might not even know ur pg! with ds1 I was about 7-8wks! So go for it! If u feel up to working with the nausea.

Maybe, glad ur dh is up for relate, a fab start!!!

Sunset, ohhh nesting??? What a brave boy u had, hate the kids needing jags, c'os u know what's coming and they don't, their wee faces.. :( I spend my last pg with ds2 in joggers as I had put on alot of weight before my pg and they were comfy, but decided to treat myself this time to some nice new stuff, as I never do.

Lavender, that's not much to eat at all, will u eat more for tea?

[Sunset]

Kell ~ you should definitely go for the job if that's what you want :) you don't need to tell them you're pregnant until you're 15 weeks!

Maybebaby ~ glad to hear your dh is up for relate, that's a great start! :)

Inglewood ~ luckily my ds1 knows what's coming with the jabs since he has to have jabs every year anyway because of his heart condition, but what he didn't know was that he had to have 2 jabs today :( usually he doesn't even flinch, but he cried today so i don't think the nurse did a very good job :/ it's really horrible isn't it.. but no more jabs now until october next year! :) Enjoy your maternity jeans! i wish i would have treated myself to some nice clothes because i'm so fed up with lazy pants.. can't wait to wear normal clothes again and make an effort :)

Lavenderlime ~ that doesn't sound like much at all.. what will you have for tea?

Deaks ~ how are you today?

Misswilko ~ miss your posts on here. enjoy your break over christmas!

[zanacal]

Lavender - I've been hankering after a Featherdown Farm holiday for a couple of years now! Unfortunately, even a few hundred quid is more than we have to spend on a holiday (and it's likely to be far more than that now we're restricted to school holidays!). We built an extension to our house last year which cost far more than we'd anticipated!! This year we just went to Legoland for the weekend so I might see if we can sneak in a weekend somewhere before the baby arrives :D

Thanks for thinking of me and my scan everybody - I just want to get it over with and get on with it, whatever the outcome!!

[maybebabythree]

Just finished cooking rock buns for the Tudor feast tomorrow. Didn't the Tudors have rickets and eat weevils? Feel pg now all achy and can't bend down to open oven!

Feel a bit better as one of the other mums forgot to get her son dress up for Tudor day. I suggested Tudor pjs! These days get on my wick a bit. There is always some smart arse that shows all the other kids up dressed in genuine period costume borrowed from the Victoria and Albert museum! Why can't they do Victorian? Boot polish on the face and braces and hay presto one chimney sweep! Can you tell I am hormonal?

[indigoviolet]

Indigo - I wanted to give you a hug today and say congratulations! But I behaved! So mad I missed ds1 Christmas concert! Grrhhh! Plus tomorrow he has Tudor feast and they all dressing up. I said I couldn't be bovered but all the other mums have got outfits. He is going in as a knight as I had that outfit already. The boys are going in as Henry the eighth! Like he would wear that again:-/ when I was a kid it was a tea towel and your undies! Kids these days ...

How you feeling deaks? Have a massive curry and a bottle of wine and relax over Christmas.

Thanks, hee hee, it was fun you knowing!
so annoying you missed the concert. I feel that they do expect a lot at the school, there is always something to get ready and bring in etc. You should have seen the costumes for the reception production, ridiculous! They each must have taken hours to make, not a tea-towel to be seen! It's such a pressure for parents. Well done for getting the buns done! I'm sure he'll have a great time tomorrow.

Really glad your dh is being helpful and agreeing to relate is brilliant. I have some friends going now and it is doing them the world of good.

[indigoviolet]

charlie- sounds like a really great holiday, I'm jealous lol! Good to have something to look forward to. Praying saturday goes well for you hun.

deaks- how are you today? Glad you have some energy to be positive, well done, you WILL get your sticky bfp just hang in there :HH:

[Inglewood]

Eve all, so mad! Ordered a BIG BERTHA bean bag from groupon, was told to redeem the voucher code after 8pm tonight, over 500 people bought one and I NEED it in blue b4 xmas, so desp to order it and my code won't work!!! Super pissed off! as It's for ds1 from us for xmas, for playing his xbox. emailed them, but god knows when I will get a reply. :( STRESSSSSSSEEEDDDD!!!

Z, I'm thinking of u for thurs....so exciting. I was nightshift last nite and dreamt all day I'm having boys, work up wondering had I just been told that? was it a dream.... ??

Sunset, know what u mean about the clothes.... sure u look fab now!!!

[maybebabythree]

Indigo - my son was the Only kid in a tea towel and a pillow case in the reception concert. Needless to say he was never offered a part again! Oh the shame :-(

One boy was dressed as turkey made of paper mashey, was unbelievably clever and that mum worked full time too! It is to much pressure. Everyone has been on eBay and I really don't want spend 30 on a one off outfit. I can afford it but it's such a waste of money. You wait till book day that's a Real PITA!

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood I hate Xmas shopping for the boys! Some thing always goes wrong!

[Inglewood]

Inglewood I hate Xmas shopping for the boys! Some thing always goes wrong!

You not kidding! story of my life this week between my next order and now this!!

I grudge buying outfits/costumes too and TRY to make them....my dh has more patience than me tho for making stuff!

[deaks66]

Hi all,

Finally got round to getting stuff sorted to make my secret Santa. Had already bought something but decided I did have time to make something,.... Plus I love to get the sewing machine out when I need to get my mind off things!

Spent some time with one of my best mates today who is exoecting her first dd after three ds's. It's so lovely for her but I have to admit, I do find it hard. Silly really.

Am thinking of you Charlie and zanacal.... Won't be long til your scans! They are so nerve racking aren't they?!

Charlie, love the sound of your holiday, thats just the sort of thing I love. And lavender, I have heard great things about that company in Devon. Perhaps that's what we will book next summer.

Maybe, glad dh agreed to relate if things don't improve. At least he is listening now.

Sunset, Brave boys today...deserved their lollies! My two watched my bloods be taken the other week and after their own jabs a few months ago looked horrified that the nurse was about to attack mummy.... Ds2 started crying.

Hi everyone else, sorry haven't had much time to catch up properly

X

[Inglewood]

Deaks, ur so lucky u can use a sewing machine!! My dad can and always meant to ask hime to show me, or my MIL she's a seamstress. I understand about ur friend, regardless if a friend gets her pp, or even a boy after 2 girls, I'm envious, just me and human nature I suppose. To want what we don't have. It's tough tho....really tough.

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood - I couldn't trust dh to make a outfit. He said today he wore a bin bag and y fronts to his school play? Wt*? What the he'll was he supposed to be???!!! That's just plain neglect lol! I hope it was a un used bin bag, never did like mil rofl!

[Inglewood]

Inglewood - I couldn't trust dh to make a outfit. He said today he wore a bin bag and y fronts to his school play? Wt*? What the he'll was he supposed to be???!!! That's just plain neglect lol! I hope it was a un used bin bag, never did like mil rofl!

pmsl..... x

[Sunset]

Inglewood - I couldn't trust dh to make a outfit. He said today he wore a bin bag and y fronts to his school play? Wt*? What the he'll was he supposed to be???!!! That's just plain neglect lol! I hope it was a un used bin bag, never did like mil rofl!

:rofl:

[Sunset]

I understand about ur friend, regardless if a friend gets her pp, or even a boy after 2 girls, I'm envious, just me and human nature I suppose. To want what we don't have. It's tough tho....really tough.

:agree: well put!

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ I agree with Inglewood, you are so lucky to know how to use a sewing machine :) I've tried numerous times, but i'm just plain terrible! Has your friend had the gender confirmed then? is it definitely a girl? I can definitely understand your mixed emotions!

[Sunset]

Morning ladies! I'm experiencing a very nasty pregnancy symptom i've never had before. I wake up in the mornings with numb fingers.. how terrible is that! :( It says in all my pregnancy books that it's normal, but it certainly doesn't feel that way. Ds1 has been poorly all night with a fever, obviously from his injections yesterday. He was fever free this morning and asking to go to nursery so hopefully i shouldn't get a phone call.
Hope you're all well! Dh's sister is coming over tonight to babysit so we can go and do our christmas shopping for the boys :) can't wait to know it's all done! :)

[Inglewood]

Morning ladies! I'm experiencing a very nasty pregnancy symptom i've neve had before. I wake up in the mornings with numb fingers.. how terrible is that! :( It says in all my pregnancy books that it's normal, but it certainly doesn't feel that way. Ds1 has been poorly all night with a fever, obviously from his injections yesterday. He was fever free this morning and asking to go to nursery so hopefully i shouldn't get a phone call.
Hope you're all well! Dh's sister is coming over tonight to babysit so we can go and do our christmas shopping for the boys :) can't wait to know it's all done! :)

Sunset, I get it too, Carpal Tunnel syndrome.... it's weird because ur fingers are numb, but it aches!! I have hand splints from the physio to wear in bed at night which helps tons and cold water. It's the swelling over ur carpal nerve in ur wrist. I have it for almost a year after birth to....just horrible.

Hope ds1 is ok today??

[chocolate]

Sunset numb fingers aren't good when we have little ones to get dressed and in this cold weather!

Well Im still waiting to ovulate! Had a week of fertile ish signs and then its all stopped, now cervix has gone back to hard and closed, cd17 - I ovulated on cd17 last month, but usually as late as cd 19/20. Ideally I wanted to ovulate Thursday at the latest to beat the full moon that is coming saturday or sunday but never mind. Off to Butlins so will do lots of walks by the beach, no computer and take my rock salt lamp to have on at night.

Does anyone know if its a full moon with positive ions, does that now mean to avoid being outside or will it still be beneficial for fresh air,will there be any negative ions still?

[deaks66]

Deaks ~ I agree with Inglewood, you are so lucky to know how to use a sewing machine :) I've tried numerous times, but i'm just plain terrible! Has your friend had the gender confirmed then? is it definitely a girl? I can definitely understand your mixed emotions!

Yes definately a girl. So pleased for her truly but also so very jealous! Sorry to hear about your numb fingers, i hope inglewoods suggestions will help. Wont be long now til you can swop all these symtoms for snuggles with baby S! X

[HopeandDreamG]

:cheerteam:ZANACAL~ Didn't know the best thread to post for you, but I know your over here with the smog ladies...I know tomorrow is your scan and wanted to wish you a LOTS and LOTS of LUCK!!!!! I'm excited for you.....
I had my first attempt and I am hoping for a BFP for Christmas. I am 12 dpo and getting negatives but my temp is sky high! FF says I can test tomorrow...so I'm hoping you get PINK news and I get a BFP!!! (pink, of course)!:cheerteam:

[charlieispy]

Hi ladies,

Sunset - hugs for your DS bless him x loved the pics with their treats x numb fingers suck I got them with ds3 all down one arm too - like inglewood said carpal tunnel - acupuncture can help not sure if the doctors will suggest anything - i found it was worse if i slept on my arm funny x

Deaks - yay for sewing - i love sewing and using my machine :D i made xmas decorations for all my friends kids and mine with their initials on this year :D HUGS for the friend finding out she is having a girl x I hope in the not so distant future it is you x x

H&G - fx fx fx for your BFP how was your attempt??

maybe - ahhhh the ritual of out doing each other in the school productions or even the competitions it gets on my nerves too. Normally at ds school they run a bauble competition supposidly made by the student....haha not likely some of them one year there was a crocheted xmas pudding!!

Zanacal - GOOD LUCK for tomorrow

oooh the farm you ladie have mentioned sounds great too will have a look at that maybe for another time x we didnt have a proper holiday last year 4 nights in wells so even though will struggle to pay this i booked it as its a long time off fx we will put money aside!! Cant wait

Oh and GUESS WHAT...found babies heartbeat with my doppler!!!! Cant believe am so so happy :D feel much more positive now!!

[Sunset]

Ohh Charliespy I'm soooooo happy for you! what a relief! :) not long now until your scan either! have you had anymore spotting? funny that, it's the same for me if I sleep on my arm. This morning when i woke up I couldn't feel my left hand at all.. it was like touching someone elses hand :/ but as soon as i got up and started my day the feeling returned. it's only when i wake up that my fingers are numb. i've never had carpal tunnel syndrome before! didn't even know that's what it's called. I'm seeing my midwife next week so i'm gonna ask her about it then, but according to the NHS website it's common in pregnancy because of fluid retention which sounds about right since i'm storing the entire pacific ocean in my hands and feet alone at the moment :rofl:

Inglewood ~ i don't get any pains with it luckily, but it's a bit scary when i wake up and my fingers are numb. Luckily it goes away quite quickly when i start moving my hands about. Glad you got the beanbag sorted, what a nightmare!

Lavenderlime ~ bless hun I saw your status on FB :( :( that's just horrible and so unfair this close to christmas and all! have you rang and spoke to them to see if perhaps it's a mistake? ((hugs))

Indigoviolet ~ how are you feeling today?

Zanacal ~ good luck tomorrow! I'm very excited for you and I'll be wearing pink to show my support tomorrow! :) hope you're not too nervous and managed to get some sleep tonight! sending you pink dust!!!!

Chocolate ~ how frustrating! I hope you ov soon!! i don't know about the full moon thing to be honest but i would assume even though it's full moon and all it's still better to be outdoors than indoors. it just means there will be more +ions in the air, but you can definitely not escape +ions in the house either and at least outdoors you have the benefit of fresh air/wind.

Big hello to anyone i've missed!

[charlieispy]

still spotting but so much happier now - text DH and he phoned me straight away :D

[zanacal]

Aww, charlie, I'm so glad for you. What a relief!

Thanks all for your good lucks - it is what it is now so I'll just have to deal with it either way but I'm definitely looking forward to getting this scan out of the way! My tummy is full of butterflies because I have no idea which way it will go - one minute I'm quite hopeful for a girl and the next I'm certain it couldn't possibly be and I'm constantly playing out both scenarios in my mind. I'm well and truly loopy :D Sunset - I keep thinking what it'll be like if the baby doesn't co-operate and I have to go back like you did. It must have been torture!!

[Inglewood]

Aww, charlie, I'm so glad for you. What a relief!

Thanks all for your good lucks - it is what it is now so I'll just have to deal with it either way but I'm definitely looking forward to getting this scan out of the way! My tummy is full of butterflies because I have no idea which way it will go - one minute I'm quite hopeful for a girl and the next I'm certain it couldn't possibly be and I'm constantly playing out both scenarios in my mind. I'm well and truly loopy :D Sunset - I keep thinking what it'll be like if the baby doesn't co-operate and I have to go back like you did. It must have been torture!!

What time is ur scan...will be wearing pink for u. xx

[Inglewood]

Charlie, that's great news!!! What a relief!!! roll on sat too! xx

[Babymad]

Hi girls....

Zanacal - GL tomorrow, FX hun x
Sunset - I had CTS in my previous pg's, its not nice at all so lots of hugs. Hope your littleman is better soon x
Charlie - Fab news!! :)
Inglewood - hope you get sorted with groupon!!
Hi to everyone else :)

I havent been sick now for a few days :) Still feel sick all the time but hoping I will be able to eat a few more things now other than shortbread and cheese sandwiches!!

[zanacal]

It's at 11am Inglewood - don't worry if I don't get on here until around 2pm though. It's quite a long way home and DH and I will eat some lunch somewhere first. I'm considering going to Mothercare or Mamas and Papas and buying an outfit either way but I've never bought anything for a baby this early and it feels like jinxing things. Will see how the mood takes me!

[Lavenderlime]

Charlie so happy you found your little beans heart beat! It must have been the best feeling and helped to put your mind at rest!

Zanacal fingers and toes crossed for you tomorrow. So exciting I'll be stalking the thread from 2pm onwards :)

Sunset thankyou I rang twice but was put on hold for so long I gave up. I'm really hoping that i've read it wrong. It say's £383.01 to pay. But not sure if I need to pay or they owe me? I really hope it's a rebate. From what I cobbled from the recorded message if it's a rebate I should get a payment through the post in around 4 weeks time. If I owe them I should get a new tax code. But I don't pay tax at the moment as I don't earn enough only working part time. It made my stomach sink when I first read it and thought I'd need to pay up straight away and my overdraft has already taken a bashing this month with Christmas and my car tax needing renewing but that's not the case so that's got rid of that intial worry!

Does anyone have their tree up yet? I think we're going to wait until saturday otherwise all the needles tend to dry out by Christmas day from the fire and central heating. So excited I love the smell of Christmas trees.

I got some yankee candle tea lights yesterday in 'kitchen spice' and the house smells so festive! Cherries on snow also smelt yummy so might get that when these run out.:)

Deaks i'm dying to know what your making for your secret santa but you obviously can't say or it wouldn't be secret! lol

[Lavenderlime]

sunset sorry to hear you have numb fingers I had the same thing with ds2 like you it was only in the mornings and thankfully wore of with movement. Us ladies have to go through so much to get our bambino's. I'm so glad that men weren't designed to carry babies or the world would be a mess!! :D

[Kell]

Zanacal good luck tomorrow!!

Charlie yay for hearing the heartbeat! What a reliefe!

Deaks good luck with your sway this month!

H&G Fingers crossed for a bfp!!!

Lavender is that for the car thing? Hope you get the money and don't owe it!

I went for the interview, it went well for me and way lol! It's only a temp contract so actually being pregnant wont effect things, I did tell the agency anyway because I felt guilty lol!

[deaks66]

charlie, so pleased for you that you heard a heartbeat... came at the right time before you totally worried yourself sick :)

zanacal, like i said on your post, good luck for tomorrow hun! Cant wait to hear your news! X

[deaks66]

lavender, i do hope you read that letter wrong, and it is them paying you! Otherwise awful timing before christmas. We havent got our tree up yet for the same reason. Got lots of family coming over between christmas eve and new years day so dont want it drying out too early! Think it will be next weekend for us! X

[HopeandDreamG]

Charlie~ So happy you heard the heartbeat..thats fantastic..what a relief! My attempt was as good as it could be. O completely changed this month- my first month ttc, of course. My plan was to DTD at first OPK because I usually O 2 days later. This cycle I got a + OPK in the am, had DH release in the am, did rephresh, and then DTD that night. Turns out FF and Ovacue said I O'd that same day. I would have freaked several months ago, but the more I read the more I don't think timing has anything to do with it. The most recent study actually found more girls conceived an O day! Dh did frequent from AF to O and the day before O and the day of he released twice. I did a little replens sometime after too.
I have been taking HPT's and getting negatives, but I am beyond tired, and my temps are way up... Will see FF says AF is due tomorrow- will do a FRER with FMU tomorrow.
Lavender~ Did you attempt yet? I think you were right behind me...then I O'd 4-5 days earler then normal! I put up a tree, but we have a fake one. Most people think it looks real, I love looking at it at night. Just took the kids to seee Santa and they each picked out ornaments..each year I get them personalized with their names and have the date on there too. Got their Christmas pic and felt really down seeing all the adorable baby girls at the photo place. I think these holidays are really a downer this year because I was due on January with a DD :( . All I can hope (and all I want) is a baby girl to join my beautiful boys in next years photo card!
Inglewood~ I think of you all the time... Your scan is next week, right??
Zanacal~ Good luck again tomorrow...

[Inglewood]

H&G- yeah next tues at 11am. Having weird 'boy' dreams, waking wondering if it's the truth! Fx for a bfp in time for xmas!

Z, FX for u tom. Going xmas shopping into the city, so prob won't get on till late afternoon either. Will be wearing pink. xx

Babymad, glad ur sickness is easing, shame u had CTS too, it was so so sore for me, once it starts for me it gets worse and worse till I have it 24/7. Can feel it niggling in tune with the start of SPD....lovely!! You can tell I'm not sick anymore, managed to put on 8lbs now, eek, better watch. Think it's been mths of girl diet, then sickness, I've got food crazy! so better start being good.

Lavenderlime, that tax bill is awful at xmas, FX they owe u!!!

Your all so good having real trees, I couldn't be fussed with the mess! terrible I know!! Dh would love one and I've promised next yr, hopefully in a new house he can go get one. So our lovely B&Q artificial one will go up on sat!! It's actually a good one, was super expensive and I like it, looks like the real thing, but Dh grew up with real trees and hates it!!! We never had a real tree, my folks still use the same tree from when I was a kid!! lol

Kell, congrats on getting the job, some extra £ over xmas will be good and hope u keep well?

Heading off to bed, need to get up early to get boys to school then out to city to spend £ we don't have. Going to ikea and toys r us. Heard we are due 90mph wind, hopefully NOT tomorrow! nite all. x

[Inglewood]

Well bang goes my shopping trip with Dh, schools closed due to red weather warning of high winds!!! 70mph+ Typical!! So a duvet day and maybe get the tree down from the loft later.

19wks pg today...can't believe how quick this is going in....ahh!

GL Z, thinking PINK for u!!!!!

[Kell]

My mums up in Scotland as well, sounds like the warning is all over? Go careful if anyone goes out!

Well my dp is staying away with work tonight, he's got his Xmas do, well one of them anyway! I hate it when he stays away, I miss him lol, what a soppy bugger huh!

I'm stupid busy with college today, lots of course work to complete :(

Have a lovely day!

[Sunset]

Zanacal ~ Good luck today!! Thinking of you and hope you're not too nervous! hopefully your bean will co-operate for you so you don't have to go back and do it all over again. it was definitely torture! i'll be wearing pink for you! :) can't wait to hear your news! xx

Babymad ~ glad to hear you're feeling better!! :)

Inglewood ~ careful today, sounds like the weather could get pretty bad up there :( it's really bad in the north east as well so i can only imagine what it's like up in scotland. 19 weeks already :D I can't believe it! it feels like yesterday you told us the news about your twins :D

Kell ~ I'm the same, miss my dh when is away! I can't sleep if he's not in the bed lol it's far too quiet then

Hopeanddream ~ I'm so sorry about your loss. I didn't realise you were expecting a DD in january... i can only imagine how hard this time of the year must be for you :/ fx you get your pink bfp soon!!

Lavenderlime ~ You have to let us know how it goes with your tax bill!


AFM going to watch ds1's nativity this morning :D can't wait!!!! :D i'm sure i'll shed a tear or 2 i'll be so proud of my little big boy :)

[Sunset]

just got back in now and eeeek Zanacal is having her scan as we speak! :D

[charlieispy]

Zanacal - thinking of you x x FX x x

Posted my secret santa today :D ohno to the winds inglewood its windy here but not THAT windy!! YAY for 19weeks :D

H&D - huges hugs i hope that you do have your little girl for next years photo x

[deaks66]

Morning all, Been put on antibiotics for a skin infection...can you believe it! seriously i think im destined to conceive boys!

zanacal, will be here waiting!

Hope you are all well. Sunset, i have ds1's carol concert and nativity tomorrow, cant wait!

[Sunset]

wow so many of you ladies have real christmas trees? :) we've had our christmas tree up now since the 3rd of december when ds1 really wanted to put it up, but i have to admit we don't have a real christmas tree this year. I will definitely get a real christmas tree when the boys get a bit older, but this year i'm a bit too lazy :p

Deaks ~ oh no, what terrible timing! i hope the infection clears up quickly! enjoy tomorrow! I LOVED watching ds1's nativity this morning, it was one of my proudest moments! :)

charliespy ~ did you go creative and made something yourself for secret santa? :)

[deaks66]

Actually just dawning on me that im not going to be able to attempt this cycle at all. THIS YEAR HAS BEEN A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! feel so depressed! Not even going to be able to fully enjoy christmas as will have to stay on diet to counteract the anti b's as much as possible :(

[charlieispy]

oh deaks HUGE HUGS x i would at least give yourself xmas day off the diet .....i dont think i could be as good as you I would fail over xmas for sure x BIG BIG hugs x x

Sunset - i made a wee something for my secret santa and brought too as too ill to make much lol x we are getting a real tree on saturday we always have a real one mmmmmmm the smell is devine

[Sunset]

deaks is it because of the antibitiocs you can't attempt this cycle? i think it says it takes 6 weeks for it to leave your system :( i'm sorry you're feeling so down about it, but i definitely understand! i wish there was anything at all that i could do to help.. you will get your baby though! it might not seem like it at the moment, but it's only a matter of time i'm sure until you get your bfp!!

[deaks66]

deaks is it because of the antibitiocs you can't attempt this cycle? i think it says it takes 6 weeks for it to leave your system :( i'm sorry you're feeling so down about it, but i definitely understand! i wish there was anything at all that i could do to help.. you will get your baby though! it might not seem like it at the moment, but it's only a matter of time i'm sure until you get your bfp!!

I think tamara says it takes 4 weeks according to an old post. Am considering not taking them as i wasnt even sure whether to go to the doctors today. Basically i got Folliculitis from shaving my legs before taking ds1 swimming last week. It spread over my body within a day or so but actually hasnt got worse the last day or so. I only went to docs as i wandered if it was my old psoriosis rearing its ugly head. Might see how the rash is over a couple of days as it wont make any difference to this ov...whenever i take them beforehand it likely i will have to miss this cycle. Will stick with the piriton and diprobase cream til the weekend and then decide. am i stupid?

[Kell]

Deaks defiantly see how it is over the weekend, my initial reaction was to keep the skin hydrated with cream rather than take antibiotics! Hugs!

Awww nativities are brilliant! This year my ds1 is a health correspondent, lmao wtf!!

Well guess what! I GOT THE JOB!!!! I start on Monday I can believe it! So excited and nervous, haven't been working properly for 2+years!!

[Lavenderlime]

Oh no Deaks! If it was me I wouldn't take them either I would try and do everything else in my power beforehand.
I know sometimes antibiotics are the only way forward. Lots of things do clear up on their own unfortunately some things don't. I'd wait it out if you can at least until after you ovulate.
This is probably really bad advice but i'm sure swaying makes you think a little loopy :).

Charlie we've always had real trees too, Dp's family always have artificile trees but he actually really likes real trees thankfully so was easy to convert!

Sunset glad you enjoyed seeing your DS, can't wait for mine to start doing school plays!

HopeandDream FX for a BFP!! My attemp was ment to be this weekend if my cycles had stayed the same but my last cycle was a week longer than usual so my attempt will probably be some time next weekend now!:)

[Sunset]

Here we go, I finally got around to taking a belly picture :) I do apologise about the super short non-maternity top i'm wearing :rofl: what can I say? super lazy afternoon in :p

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[Sunset]

Kell ~ congratulations on the job!!! :D

Deaks ~ I would definitely hold off the antibiotics and see how it goes. i think they're a bit too quick to prescribe antibiotics here in england imo

Indigoviolet ~ thank you soooo much for the christmas card!!! it brought a tear to my eye :)

[zanacal]

Sunset you look GREAT! I always wanted to have a bump just like that (as opposed to looking like a beached whale as I always do!!).

[Inglewood]

I second Z! Sunset what a lovely bump, never had one like that, always go all the way 'round' lol never have a neat bump.....

[Kell]

Sunset your bump is great! Can't wait to have mine!!

Zanacal yay!!!! Just noticed your signature! Many congratulations on your baby girl!!

[deaks66]

Thanks ladies, i think i will definately hold off unless i think its getting worse. On the internet it says that most cases clear up on their own in around 10 days (its only been 7 so far) and that severe cases are puss filled. Well although mine have spread to all sorts of places (though only my pubic hair, legs and inside of belly button particularly concentrated) they have no puss and actually look to be clearing up on my hands and arms. Potentially 11 days til ovulation so if they stay the same til then will take antibiotics the day or so after ov. If they clear up before even better. Thanks for the reassurance!

[deaks66]

Sunset, thats the type of bump i get.. lovely!

[HopeandDreamG]

SUNSET~ You look sooooooooooooo cute!!!! Z- I also look like a beached whale!! Not saying you do LOL!!

[HopeandDreamG]

[QUOTE]Hopeanddream ~ I'm so sorry about your loss. I didn't realise you were expecting a DD in january... i can only imagine how hard this time of the year must be for you :/ fx you get your pink bfp soon!!

Thank you. Been OK but yes this time of year has made it hard :)