January 2012 Chit Chat Thread for TTC Boy

[TTC5]

Happy New Year all!!!!!

[TTC5]

So update on me after our recent findings on my "infertility".

We are not swaying anymore. I'm not temping or opk'ing either. After being hit in the face with the news it has made us realise how gender is not important to us anymore.. I am under stress now so don't need to have added stress on top (which swaying was doing). We will BD when we want, how we want and pray to God for a miracle.

I don't want to face the specialist that did this to me :( I don't want to go anywhere near him ever again. I'm going to write to the hospital a letter of complaint and ask my GP what I can do next as I don't want this to happen to someone else.. just because I already have 4 children surely he would have told us of this risk because people DO go on to have more children and we have every right to aswell!!! Enough now, I am building up far too much anger every time I think about it :(

[Cinss]

Great attitude TTC5, ill bet YOU are the one who totally stops stressing about swaying and everything that goes with it, and falls preggers with their DG!

[iluvmyman]

I"m so behind TTC5, what is going on?

[iluvmyman]

Happy New Year Everyone! It's been a long time. Are Lola and begonia still posting?

As for me, things are OK. DD2 diagnosed w/ high functioning autism, PDD NOS. Found out today I have gestational diabetes and will get more info this week about diet changes. U/S to check placenta moved is on the 9th but no bleeding which is a great sign. Other than that, holidays have been nice and kids are othewise healthy and happy.

Sorry I've been gone but miss everyone and can't wait to catch up!

[Cinss]

Hi iluvmyman, welcome back, it's good to hear you are doing well. Yep Lola and Begonia are still around :) I have just TTC for the first time since DD was born and am currently in the 2ww.

[TTC5]

I"m so behind TTC5, what is going on?

Found out last week that the operation from last year has left me most likely infertile :(

[TTC5]

Hi iluvmyman, welcome back, it's good to hear you are doing well. Yep Lola and Begonia are still around :) I have just TTC for the first time since DD was born and am currently in the 2ww.

FX! When are you testing?!

[TTC5]

Happy New Year Everyone! It's been a long time. Are Lola and begonia still posting?

As for me, things are OK. DD2 diagnosed w/ high functioning autism, PDD NOS. Found out today I have gestational diabetes and will get more info this week about diet changes. U/S to check placenta moved is on the 9th but no bleeding which is a great sign. Other than that, holidays have been nice and kids are othewise healthy and happy.

Sorry I've been gone but miss everyone and can't wait to catch up!

I hope you get the best therapy and aide for DD. I work with children with austism so feel free to pm me if you want to chat with someone with experience xx

[Plum3]

Happy New Year everyone! Hopefully 2012 sees us in with lots of BFPs!

iluv, it's good to have you back :)

5, I had a look at those links, thanks. I am so sorry :( I really can't believe how negligent that doctor was. I know you don't want to see or have anything to do with the doctor but I really think you have a strong case. Can the coiling be reversed at all?

Yahmama, sorry to hear about the miscarriage. I don't think swaying has any influence on miscarrying. If you think about it, there are lots and lots of women who have normal progesterone that miscarry. So being on progesterone supps doesn't guarantee a sticky baby.

3, looking great! Not long to go now. I totally agree about being highly tuned during the 2ww and putting everything down to pregnancy symptoms.

hope.ful, congrats on your bfp! Very happy for you.

Kris, I tend to agree with your partner about the name meanings. But that's just me. My girls meanings are 'morning dew' and 'little lamb'.

MFC, thanks for the good luck :)

Hello to everyone else!

So I O'd early this morning. We DTD last night and the night before. Tomorrow will be 1dpo. I'm feeling pretty relaxed this time so hopefully the feeling lasts!

[Kris217]

Happy New Year Everyone! It's been a long time. Are Lola and begonia still posting?

As for me, things are OK. DD2 diagnosed w/ high functioning autism, PDD NOS. Found out today I have gestational diabetes and will get more info this week about diet changes. U/S to check placenta moved is on the 9th but no bleeding which is a great sign. Other than that, holidays have been nice and kids are othewise healthy and happy.

Sorry I've been gone but miss everyone and can't wait to catch up!

Good to see you back iluv, sorry about your DD but it's good now she's been diagnosed so you can get the right help for her. Not good about the GD, I hear the diet is very boring! But you gotta do what you gotta do so you'll manage. I got my test on Tuesday to see if I have it or not.

[Hobbermittens]

I started a new January thread too yesterday... guess this one is more popular! :suprise:

Happy New Year y'all!

TTC5, I am so sorry about what has happened with your procedure. I think writing a letter would be appropriate. Have you thought to contact a lawyer? Is there any way the procedure can be reversed? I hope that you get that miracle pregnancy in 2012. :)

Bec, FX for a sticky blue bean!

Iluv, how old is DD2? I have a friend whose son is autistic, and he has been getting all kinds of help since he was 3, and he has made HUGE strides! The earlier the intervention, the better. There are so many programs designed to help these days, it is amazing!

[Flava]

Hi girls!
was not easy to find this place lol. I see Z got a BFP??? wow big congrats !!!
TTC5 what happened? Im sorry hope you get a blue bfp soon anyway!
FAB I miss you too but I just can't hang here or even read much...still don't like to see baby boys...:-( this no more baby ever is not easy...but what can i do? On the other side i really looking forward to be more "free" with big kids lol


skrimpy-you lost 29lbs wow girl you MUST tell me how ! Im trying here but so hard and it's not going good .I eat so little now and still...send me a pm or here , anything lol tnx

Big hugs to all!

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[zanacal]

I just wanted to say hi to Flava - it's so lovely to see you! I hope you feel better about no more babies in time x

[TTC5]

I am not sure if it can be, the dr did not say anything? I will ask though.. do you think it could be?

[TTC5]

I started a new January thread too yesterday... guess this one is more popular! :suprise:

Happy New Year y'all!

TTC5, I am so sorry about what has happened with your procedure. I think writing a letter would be appropriate. Have you thought to contact a lawyer? Is there any way the procedure can be reversed? I hope that you get that miracle pregnancy in 2012. :)

Bec, FX for a sticky blue bean!

Iluv, how old is DD2? I have a friend whose son is autistic, and he has been getting all kinds of help since he was 3, and he has made HUGE strides! The earlier the intervention, the better. There are so many programs designed to help these days, it is amazing!

Oops sorry H, I didn't see it xxx

[TTC5]

So I caved and checked with CD I am and I am CD 13. I am trying so hard to believe that I at least have a 1% chance better than O%. We have been bd'ing all over NYE and timing it out my window now, I don't care!! Just want a baby :(
A friend of ours fell pregnant recently after her husband was told was infertile too so it does happen, hey? Oh I am holding on to strings now :(
Sorry feeling very emotional right now.

I am writing a letter but finding it hard to word it. (to the hospital).

[Cinss]

FX! When are you testing?!

I will be testing tomorrow morning at 10DPO, i have been a good girl and no POAS yet :)

[TTC5]

I have my FX for you C!!!!!!!!!!! Good girl for holding out!!!! :D

[love being a mummy]

So update on me after our recent findings on my "infertility".

We are not swaying anymore. I'm not temping or opk'ing either. After being hit in the face with the news it has made us realise how gender is not important to us anymore.. I am under stress now so don't need to have added stress on top (which swaying was doing). We will BD when we want, how we want and pray to God for a miracle.

I don't want to face the specialist that did this to me :( I don't want to go anywhere near him ever again. I'm going to write to the hospital a letter of complaint and ask my GP what I can do next as I don't want this to happen to someone else.. just because I already have 4 children surely he would have told us of this risk because people DO go on to have more children and we have every right to aswell!!! Enough now, I am building up far too much anger every time I think about it :(

I think the letter is a good idea, they should tell you the risks no matter how many children you have.

[Kris217]

I will be testing tomorrow morning at 10DPO, i have been a good girl and no POAS yet :)

Good job, FX for you!!

[TTC5]

I think the letter is a good idea, they should tell you the risks no matter how many children you have.

I have no idea where to start it. They will probably shrug me off no doubt, I mean I already have 4 children :(

[Bumblebee]

Happy New Year Folks, haven't been on here on ages, hope you are all fine and well. :)

[Yahmama]

Back in here this month as I've had a chemical pregnancy this past cycle...but it was odd as my bleeding didn't start or a whole week after my BFP on the FRER. This explains why my "Internet cheapo" tests never gave me a BFP...they prob weren't defective, just showing my levels never reached 25 :( Hoping for a diff result this month...

[Hobbermittens]

I have no idea where to start it. They will probably shrug me off no doubt, I mean I already have 4 children :(

You have a right to have as many children as you want--it isn't up to a hospital to decide if you have "enough" already! If your fertility was taken by a doctor without your consent or knowledge, that is criminal! I can't imagine they would blow you off over something like this.

[Hobbermittens]

Back in here this month as I've had a chemical pregnancy this past cycle...but it was odd as my bleeding didn't start or a whole week after my BFP on the FRER. This explains why my "Internet cheapo" tests never gave me a BFP...they prob weren't defective, just showing my levels never reached 25 :( Hoping for a diff result this month...

:( I'm so sorry yahmama.

[iluvmyman]

Hi iluvmyman, welcome back, it's good to hear you are doing well. Yep Lola and Begonia are still around :) I have just TTC for the first time since DD was born and am currently in the 2ww.

How exciting!!! GL!

[iluvmyman]

I hope you get the best therapy and aide for DD. I work with children with austism so feel free to pm me if you want to chat with someone with experience xx

Thank you!! So Sorry to hear about the possible infertility. I sure hope that isn't the case. Will be praying for you.

[iluvmyman]

Good to see you back iluv, sorry about your DD but it's good now she's been diagnosed so you can get the right help for her. Not good about the GD, I hear the diet is very boring! But you gotta do what you gotta do so you'll manage. I got my test on Tuesday to see if I have it or not.

That's exactly how I feel about her diagnosis. We at least have a jumping off point now. GL on your test. I'm not very good with discipline or consistency which will make the diet hard but it's just 3 months, right. I've looking into it a little. I know it's iike 6 small meals. just makes this all even scarier I guess but there are worse things. GL on the name picking. We are stil working on a middle name and now DH is reconsidering the 1st name. I just want a name. I told him I've been calling her Carrigan and he better come up w/ something new a =nd quick. I think he"ll stick w/ Carrigan though. I like it..

[iluvmyman]

I started a new January thread too yesterday... guess this one is more popular! :suprise:

Happy New Year y'all!

TTC5, I am so sorry about what has happened with your procedure. I think writing a letter would be appropriate. Have you thought to contact a lawyer? Is there any way the procedure can be reversed? I hope that you get that miracle pregnancy in 2012. :)

Bec, FX for a sticky blue bean!

Iluv, how old is DD2? I have a friend whose son is autistic, and he has been getting all kinds of help since he was 3, and he has made HUGE strides! The earlier the intervention, the better. There are so many programs designed to help these days, it is amazing!

She'll be 7 1/2 this month. We have had her in speech since pre-school and she is already doing OT for fine and gross motor skills. We homeschool so not too many school adjustments needed except me figuring out what works best for her and learning more skills. We have learned to work with her throughout the years and it's not a shock. Just nice to finally have an answer and new tools to keep her on track and minimize everyone's frustration. We will be meeting with a case worker soon to try and make some things easier.

[iluvmyman]

I have no idea where to start it. They will probably shrug me off no doubt, I mean I already have 4 children :(

Don't you dare start feeling that way. The # of kids you have has nothing to do with it. You write that letter with conviction girl! :)

[TTC5]

Any ideas on how to word it? xx

[Kris217]

Back in here this month as I've had a chemical pregnancy this past cycle...but it was odd as my bleeding didn't start or a whole week after my BFP on the FRER. This explains why my "Internet cheapo" tests never gave me a BFP...they prob weren't defective, just showing my levels never reached 25 :( Hoping for a diff result this month...

Sorry to hear that :(

[Kris217]

That's exactly how I feel about her diagnosis. We at least have a jumping off point now. GL on your test. I'm not very good with discipline or consistency which will make the diet hard but it's just 3 months, right. I've looking into it a little. I know it's iike 6 small meals. just makes this all even scarier I guess but there are worse things. GL on the name picking. We are stil working on a middle name and now DH is reconsidering the 1st name. I just want a name. I told him I've been calling her Carrigan and he better come up w/ something new a =nd quick. I think he"ll stick w/ Carrigan though. I like it..

Carrigan is nice, I hope he just settles with that! Yeah only 3 months left so the whole diet thing will be over with before you know it!

[Cinss]

I have no idea where to start it. They will probably shrug me off no doubt, I mean I already have 4 children :(

So what if you already have 4? Maybe you could talk to a lawyer first to see where you can go with it?

[TTC5]

I can't afford a lawyer :(

[Plum3]

Flava, good to hear from you!

Cinss, good luck testing tomorrow :)

5, did you find any info on reversal? And it doesn't matter if you have none or 20 children, it is your right to choose how many children you want, no one elses. I agree with Hobber, they will have to follow it up and if they don't then you just go higher up.

Yahmama, my last cycle was a chemical too so we're in the same situation. They say you are extra fertile the month following so fingers crossed for both of us. I know it's meant to sway girl as well but I actually don't really care anymore.

[TTC5]

I will definately write a letter. Just unsure of how to word it all, right now..

[Plum3]

I would just go with the facts... You've been TTC for a while now. Recently in conversation with your doctor it was brought to your attention that the coiling/embolisation may have made you infertile. You were never told that the procedure carried that risk and would have delayed having it done until you had finished having children. I don't even think you need to mention in your letter that you have 4 children already, it is totally irrelevant.

[Kris217]

I agree with Bec, well said.

[Cinss]

I can't afford a lawyer :(

You can call Legal Aid for advice (free) If they can't help you they may be able to refer you to another service. I think you need to find out if writing the letter is your best move and if it is someting they would recommend they would probably write it on your behalf and try to get compensation for you.

[TTC5]

Thankyou so much for your help x

[TTC5]

I would just go with the facts... You've been TTC for a while now. Recently in conversation with your doctor it was brought to your attention that the coiling/embolisation may have made you infertile. You were never told that the procedure carried that risk and would have delayed having it done until you had finished having children. I don't even think you need to mention in your letter that you have 4 children already, it is totally irrelevant.

Thankyou xx

[LolaInLove]

Happy 2012 my friends! I hope you all had a nice Christmas!

Hey 5- I am so sorry again, this blows. I like Bec's wording, and agree with Cinss....you could get at least some compensation if you were indeed robbed of your fertility. You may be able to find a lawyer via that service who will take your case and just take a percentage of your compensation. But hey- let's be positive and hope we both get a miracle baby in 2012! xxoo

Hi everyone, been a few weeks. Was traveling and tried to just concentrate on centering myself and heading into this year with a good balanced attitude about this whole ttc thing. Was super nice to pop back on today and see ZB's long awaited bfp!

Skrimpy, DO TELL your weight-loss secrets!

Iluv, good to hear from you also- sorry to hear about your girl and your gest diabetes....sounds like you have got a good plan for dealing with both. Will keep you in my prayers, luv. xxoo

Will have many more comments, still reading through....

Missed you gals and glad to be back!

[Cinss]

10DPO + Ebay Cheapy HPT = BFN

[My Fabulous Children]

Happy New Year Everyone! It's been a long time. Are Lola and begonia still posting?

As for me, things are OK. DD2 diagnosed w/ high functioning autism, PDD NOS. Found out today I have gestational diabetes and will get more info this week about diet changes. U/S to check placenta moved is on the 9th but no bleeding which is a great sign. Other than that, holidays have been nice and kids are othewise healthy and happy.

Sorry I've been gone but miss everyone and can't wait to catch up!

Hi iluv, Welcome back! Nice to see you again.

[My Fabulous Children]

Happy New Year everyone! Hopefully 2012 sees us in with lots of BFPs!

iluv, it's good to have you back :)

5, I had a look at those links, thanks. I am so sorry :( I really can't believe how negligent that doctor was. I know you don't want to see or have anything to do with the doctor but I really think you have a strong case. Can the coiling be reversed at all?

Yahmama, sorry to hear about the miscarriage. I don't think swaying has any influence on miscarrying. If you think about it, there are lots and lots of women who have normal progesterone that miscarry. So being on progesterone supps doesn't guarantee a sticky baby.

3, looking great! Not long to go now. I totally agree about being highly tuned during the 2ww and putting everything down to pregnancy symptoms.

hope.ful, congrats on your bfp! Very happy for you.

Kris, I tend to agree with your partner about the name meanings. But that's just me. My girls meanings are 'morning dew' and 'little lamb'.

MFC, thanks for the good luck :)

Hello to everyone else!

So I O'd early this morning. We DTD last night and the night before. Tomorrow will be 1dpo. I'm feeling pretty relaxed this time so hopefully the feeling lasts!

FX for sticky bean!

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi girls!
was not easy to find this place lol. I see Z got a BFP??? wow big congrats !!!
TTC5 what happened? Im sorry hope you get a blue bfp soon anyway!
FAB I miss you too but I just can't hang here or even read much...still don't like to see baby boys...:-( this no more baby ever is not easy...but what can i do? On the other side i really looking forward to be more "free" with big kids lol


skrimpy-you lost 29lbs wow girl you MUST tell me how ! Im trying here but so hard and it's not going good .I eat so little now and still...send me a pm or here , anything lol tnx

Big hugs to all!

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Hi Flava, I really hope you feel better very soon ((Hugs)).

[My Fabulous Children]

Back in here this month as I've had a chemical pregnancy this past cycle...but it was odd as my bleeding didn't start or a whole week after my BFP on the FRER. This explains why my "Internet cheapo" tests never gave me a BFP...they prob weren't defective, just showing my levels never reached 25 :( Hoping for a diff result this month...

I'm so sorry hon, And good luck on trying again.

[My Fabulous Children]

10DPO + Ebay Cheapy HPT = BFN

Sorry Cinss, Still too early, GL on testing again.

[My Fabulous Children]

Happy 2012 my friends! I hope you all had a nice Christmas!

Hey 5- I am so sorry again, this blows. I like Bec's wording, and agree with Cinss....you could get at least some compensation if you were indeed robbed of your fertility. You may be able to find a lawyer via that service who will take your case and just take a percentage of your compensation. But hey- let's be positive and hope we both get a miracle baby in 2012! xxoo

Hi everyone, been a few weeks. Was traveling and tried to just concentrate on centering myself and heading into this year with a good balanced attitude about this whole ttc thing. Was super nice to pop back on today and see ZB's long awaited bfp!

Skrimpy, DO TELL your weight-loss secrets!

Iluv, good to hear from you also- sorry to hear about your girl and your gest diabetes....sounds like you have got a good plan for dealing with both. Will keep you in my prayers, luv. xxoo

Will have many more comments, still reading through....

Missed you gals and glad to be back!

Hi Lola :wave: Welcome back! You have been missed around here :awe:

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, nice to see you! Hope the New Year is good luck for all of us. :)

Cinss, did you test again?

Bec, when can you test?

Iluv, it sounds like you have a lot of good resources for your DD, and that you have been doing a lot to help her already. :) Good job, mama.

TTC5, I think what Bec suggested is great for a letter. I also agree that you should contact the free lawyer services and see what they recommend before you send the letter, in case there is another protocol you should follow.

[Yahmama]

Yahmama, my last cycle was a chemical too so we're in the same situation. They say you are extra fertile the month following so fingers crossed for both of us. I know it's meant to sway girl as well but I actually don't really care anymore.

I've heard it sways girl too, but I had my son after having 2 miscarriages within 4 months, so I think you have to just view it as one of many factors! I'm not going to skip a month trying just because of it, and I'm just hoping for a sticky bean soon and praying it will be a baby brother! FX for you too! I found the chemical pregnancy to be just as devastating as my miscarriages that were a little farther along. Hope you're coping well. I find that naming every loss helps me to grieve and not feel like I have to forget them, but that they were meant to be in heaven instead of with me!

[LolaInLove]

I've heard it sways girl too, but I had my son after having 2 miscarriages within 4 months, so I think you have to just view it as one of many factors! I'm not going to skip a month trying just because of it, and I'm just hoping for a sticky bean soon and praying it will be a baby brother! FX for you too! I found the chemical pregnancy to be just as devastating as my miscarriages that were a little farther along. Hope you're coping well. I find that naming every loss helps me to grieve and not feel like I have to forget them, but that they were meant to be in heaven instead of with me!

Hi, welcome, and sorry about the m/c....you are so right, they all suck just as much. It's because you get excited and envision what is to come, and then it is ripped away from you. FWIW, I wouldn't skip a month either due to worrying about it swaying. I only skipped because I wanted my uterine lining to be optimum with the 10wk loss, but with a chemical, I would go for it right away. Glad to see you here!

[LolaInLove]

Hi Lola :wave: Welcome back! You have been missed around here :awe:

Thanks, lady! I needed that break from work and well, ttc and all. How are you doing? Got a 12 wk appt scheduled yet?

[LolaInLove]

10DPO + Ebay Cheapy HPT = BFN

BOO! I'm sorry. I'm gonna give you the old "you're still early" though!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

5 - not much to say but so sorry and big, big hug :(

Iluv - so glad your back and all is well. Bummer on the diabetes, hope it won't be too brutal. I like Carrigan, fx dh sticks with it.

Cinss- sorry about the bfn but like others have said, early :)

[Cinss]

I am going to test again tomorrow morning at 12DPO, i know it's still early, but i am still crossing my fingers :)

[daisyfay311]

Just popping in here and there these days but wanted to say that I only know two people who have gotten pregnant the month after a chemical and both were boys. So definitely not a reason to skip a cycle in my experience.

[TTC5]

10DPO + Ebay Cheapy HPT = BFN

Still early!! xxx

[TTC5]

Hi ladies,

I had an app today with another GP to discuss my situation and recent findings. He believes that I do have a chance at falling pregnant but it is definately lower than pre op. I asked what % and he could not give me a figure but said that it may be a lengthy process for us and just a matter of trying and trying and trying. I am though, at an increased risk of ectopic pregnany :(

He has recommended I seek some legal advice if I want to persue things further. I don't want $$, I just want a baby and for this to never happen to anyone else again. Going to call Legal Aid tomorrow.

I caved and did the last two CBFM tests yesterday and this morning. I am on high. We have thrown timing out the window and have DTD LOTS the last few days. No more supps just folic acid.

[Cinss]

TTC5, that must have been a little relief hearing that it is still possible for you to fall pregnant. And seeing as you have been trying and trying for so long, you really must be close. Best of luck for this cycle hun. xx

[Plum3]

FX for sticky bean!

Thankyou :)

[Plum3]

I've heard it sways girl too, but I had my son after having 2 miscarriages within 4 months, so I think you have to just view it as one of many factors! I'm not going to skip a month trying just because of it, and I'm just hoping for a sticky bean soon and praying it will be a baby brother! FX for you too! I found the chemical pregnancy to be just as devastating as my miscarriages that were a little farther along. Hope you're coping well. I find that naming every loss helps me to grieve and not feel like I have to forget them, but that they were meant to be in heaven instead of with me!

Yep, I am doing ok. I'm just scared of it happening again. I guess that fear will always be there from now on.

[Plum3]

Lola, so good to have you back!!

Cin, sorry about the bfn. Hopefully tomorrow!

Hobber, I think I will wait til 11dpo to test. I really don't feel optimistic about this cycle anyway.

5, I'm glad you got some goodish news re your fertility. Did he say what the process might involve? Will you have to have fertility treatment of some kind? Hopefully all the BDing will bring you a little miracle baby!

[love being a mummy]

I have no idea where to start it. They will probably shrug me off no doubt, I mean I already have 4 children :(

it shouldn't matter if you have 1 or 10 children, they should tell you all the risks.

[love being a mummy]

I had no idea where I am in my cycle, I don't think I have O'd yet. Had some cramps but no EWCM.

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, glad you got a glimmer of hope from that dr. It's not easy to know you may have to try for ever, believe me, but I think just being laid back about it will help you not go nuts.

LBAM, just throwing this out there- since you O so irregularly, I would think about doing opks again. You would have a better idea of when to do it. Personally, I usually O around day 14 (when not on fert meds) so for me, I know I can just dtd a bunch around then, but if it varied much more, I'd be all over some opks. I just think they will only help you get pg faster. You can get a ton of them on amazon.com for only $10- the Wondfo kind. I think they work just fine.

So, I am a little BLAH today. I guess I just wish I didn't have to deal with this infertility bullcrap. My ex is having their kid today, she's being induced (is exactly 2 weeks overdue, yikes). So now I am going to have to hear about this baby ad nauseum from my girls. BARF.

[Yahmama]

Yep, I am doing ok. I'm just scared of it happening again. I guess that fear will always be there from now on.

That's exactly what I told my DH that I'll be on pins and needles afraid to do anything that it might happen again! And I'm probably going to keep POAS like every day for a few weeks wondering if "the line is getting lighter" or something like that!

[Cinss]

I'm 12 DPO and still -v HPT, it's ok because i didn't get a +v with DD until after AF was late, i must have speed bumps in my tubes or something, i am still hopeful.

[Princess of Pink]

5 even if you don't want $$$ maybe the hospital could fund IVF so you get that baby...and IVF seems to result in more boys than girls :babym:

[LolaInLove]

Bec and Yahmama, I totally understand being pensive about another bean also. I guess you just have to believe that it will be ok and try not to worry. Lots of mamas of m/c have had healthy babies after, tons on here alone!

TTC5, I like POP's idea above the more and more I think about it.....

And I am officially bummed. I hate when my ex gets to have a baby and I don't. It's not a competition. Just that he's a super huge mean a$$hole and they get one but I don't. Oh well, what are ya gonna do. I just get to hear about this kid for ever now.

[TTC5]

Yes it made me cry (again) just to hear I have SOME chance, even if little. We have been BD like rabbits this week!!

[TTC5]

There's nothing I can do to increase my chances other than have LOTS of sex lol.

[Princess of Pink]

DH would love that suggestion!! LOL

[TTC5]

Yes he does ;)

So rang legal aide and there are no app's till Feb!!

[Son4meplz]

Just curious are there 2 January threads right now for TTc boy...I am new on the forum so just confused which thread should I follow?

[TTC5]

Just curious are there 2 January threads right now for TTc boy...I am new on the forum so just confused which thread should I follow?

Not sure have not looked I think hobbers mentioned she started one but I have not looked lol xx

[Cinss]

Just curious are there 2 January threads right now for TTc boy...I am new on the forum so just confused which thread should I follow?

Yes 2 threads were started on the same day by diff people, i think this one is more active.

[Cinss]

Lola, that does sound like a yucky situation with the EX. Does he take your kids on weekends or something?

[Plum3]

Lola, sorry that you're having to deal with all that crap with your ex. Sometimes life isn't fair.

[Plum3]

That's exactly what I told my DH that I'll be on pins and needles afraid to do anything that it might happen again! And I'm probably going to keep POAS like every day for a few weeks wondering if "the line is getting lighter" or something like that!

I'm staying away from HPTs this time, in the sense that I won't be doing multiple ones to see a line get darker. It stresses me out way too much.

[Princess of Pink]

I'm staying away from HPTs this time, in the sense that I won't be doing multiple ones to see a line get darker. It stresses me out way too much.

With my last daughter I had suffered a really yucky loss just the month before her conception (I went for 8 week u/s and watched my babies hb slow until it stopped 3mins later, then decided to miscarry naturally which took a further 4 weeks, the m/c was like short labour and I passed the sac complete with baby still inside). No joke I POAS for the first 5 months of the next pregnancy which resulted in our youngest daughter!! Sometimes multiple times a day...I think I had some issues!!!

[love being a mummy]

TTC5, glad you got a glimmer of hope from that dr. It's not easy to know you may have to try for ever, believe me, but I think just being laid back about it will help you not go nuts.

LBAM, just throwing this out there- since you O so irregularly, I would think about doing opks again. You would have a better idea of when to do it. Personally, I usually O around day 14 (when not on fert meds) so for me, I know I can just dtd a bunch around then, but if it varied much more, I'd be all over some opks. I just think they will only help you get pg faster. You can get a ton of them on amazon.com for only $10- the Wondfo kind. I think they work just fine.

So, I am a little BLAH today. I guess I just wish I didn't have to deal with this infertility bullcrap. My ex is having their kid today, she's being induced (is exactly 2 weeks overdue, yikes). So now I am going to have to hear about this baby ad nauseum from my girls. BARF.

I am on holidays atm so thats why I am not really doing anything, all my OPT's are at home. I should be home in time to do some opt's before CD24 ( last cycle O ) and also CD 19 ( the 2 cycles before that).

I've been taking multi V and folic acid.
I have decided not to do BSF as I think that's why I didn't get pregnant last cycle. Plus have not DTD everyday like last time. Thinking about starting to DTD every 2nd from now. Today is CD17 I think.

[Son4meplz]

Yes 2 threads were started on the same day by diff people, i think this one is more active.

Thanks cinss. Yep, i think this thread is more active so i will repost my question from the other thread here.

Hi Everyone,

I'm new on this forum but have been a member on ingender for long. I've been on and off many times from this ttc wagon. Thanks for starting the Jan thread and wish everyone a very happy new year.

I'm all set to ttc this month and need lots of good wishes from everyone and my sincere wishes are with everyone. Yesterday was my first day of AF and I am going to do following things from AF to OV. Could you plz let me know if anyone has any suggestion for what i should do or not do.

1) Drinks-ACV 2 times/day, COT drink 2 times/day, Fresh extracted Grapefruit juice 8Oz/day
2) Royal Jelly/Pollen bee - 1 spoon morning and 1 spoon night
3) Lots of fruits, juices and veggies along with all the ttc Boy supplements.

This is the first month that i'm eating Royal Jelly n pollen bee and i'm hoping that ovulation is going to be either delayed or early a little bit. How about grape fruit juice? Is it good or should i stop that?

Regarding fresh extracted grape fruit juice....has something changed? I believe 2 years back it was considered good for TTC boy...i googled and found grape fruit juice to increase estrogen level.....is that bad for TTC boy?

[skrimpy]

Aha I'll repost here on the active thread:

Happy New Year ladies! I hope all are doing well.

I am sitting on pins and needles here... We have been using the Marquette method of NFP/FAM where you monitor cervical fluid and use the CBFM to watch hormone patterns. They have a breastfeeding protocol to use before cycles resume. Essentially, if you have no mucus and get a "low" on the monitor, you are safe. If you get a High or have mucus, you're to abstain. If you're getting a peak your cycles are probably about to start and you go to normal NFP protocol after your first period.

Well I have been having all lows with highs here and there, but no period, no peaks. DH and I DTD on Tuesday b/c I had a low and no mucus. Then yesterday morning I got a peak on the monitor, out of nowhere!! I have a little mucus now, but no EWCM. I'm kinda worried now... The Marquette doctors actively monitor charts and help out on the forums, so the doctor said it's pretty much just wait and see, and really annoying I got NO high before a peak... I'm also temping and no shift yet so I didn't O yet... The DR said if I O today or tomorrow there's around an 85% chance we won't get pg... Obviously he does not know me LOL.

If anything we would be leaning girl sway right now with me losing off all my baby weight from Honor (I was getting to where I'm looking good, too!)... Though I am actively strength training. I told DH if I am pg I want to go Team Green and he said no LOL!

Right now I'm a little in shock (didn't realize you could even go low to peak with no warning! I don't have any OPK's to test w/ those). I just need to tell somewhere, and here is safe... And just wait and see.

Honor is still super high-maint, so I hope for her sake this was just hormones trying to start up but not making it.

I was the one who wanted to DTD on Tues, so DH said that in the future we should just abstain if I'm in the mood :p

Sorry this is long gals, just needed somewhere to talk...

[Hobbermittens]

HEy Skrimpy--I just replied to this on the other thread. I just hope that you get the outcome you want--if you don't want a baby right now, then hopefully you will not get pregnant. My guess would be that your cycles are still out of wack from nursing, and you probably won't O tomorrow.. keep us posted!!

[LolaInLove]

Lola, that does sound like a yucky situation with the EX. Does he take your kids on weekends or something?

Yea, he and his new wife live in the same city as we do (I stayed here so my kids could see him). We made a schedule where they go over to his place every other weekend, but they hate it there. I just hate seeing them get pg right away while we have to have issues. They are so wealthy too, they could afford ivf in a heartbeat. NOT FAIR INDEED!!!! Should be other way around!

[LolaInLove]

I'm staying away from HPTs this time, in the sense that I won't be doing multiple ones to see a line get darker. It stresses me out way too much.

I am all about this idea. And thanks for the virtual hug, Bec. xxoo

[LolaInLove]

Skrimpy and Son4me, I posted a reply on the other thread, too! Will repost: Skrimpy, nail biter! I am really hoping that your hormones are just being wackadoodle right now. But ya know what, it is what it is, and if this is another oops baby, he/she will be awesome and was meant to be. I did the NFP method for years, kept me un-pregnant for a good 2 years between my girls. I had a couple of scares also, when I would suddenly have ewcm out of the blue. Keep us updated!!!! FX just a scare for you!

Son4me- Welcome! I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with drinking grapefruit juice. We don't believe in avoiding calcium for swaying blue on this site (well, I speak for most of us), and I know gf juice is super nutritious- see here: WHFoods: Grapefruit. I personally think vitamin c is excellent when ttc and awesome when you are pg for keeping that old sac of waters nice and strong among other things.

Good to just go by this rule of thumb: everything healthy and whole (ie not artificial) is going to be good for you and sway blue. As many wholesome fruits and veggies as you can (including fresh gf juice) is excellent!

[Yahmama]

Son4me- Welcome! I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with drinking grapefruit juice. We don't believe in avoiding calcium for swaying blue on this site (well, I speak for most of us), and I know gf juice is super nutritious- see here: WHFoods: Grapefruit. I personally think vitamin c is excellent when ttc and awesome when you are pg for keeping that old sac of waters nice and strong among other things.

Good to just go by this rule of thumb: everything healthy and whole (ie not artificial) is going to be good for you and sway blue. As many wholesome fruits and veggies as you can (including fresh gf juice) is excellent!

I think I need to be doing something different than the IG diet I had been doing before this chemical pregnancy. I had been so off the diet during Christmas when I knew I was preggo that this is stressing me out right now. I think I'm on cd7 if you count the day I started spotting from the chemical and if my cycle isn't wacko this month. So, if what I understand is correct, just eat very healthy, full of vitamins food and avoid all artificial? I apologize if this is somewhere else on a different board, I'm just confused what to do this next go around. Maybe the lack of key vitamins played a role in the chemical?!?

[LolaInLove]

I am on holidays atm so thats why I am not really doing anything, all my OPT's are at home. I should be home in time to do some opt's before CD24 ( last cycle O ) and also CD 19 ( the 2 cycles before that).

I've been taking multi V and folic acid.
I have decided not to do BSF as I think that's why I didn't get pregnant last cycle. Plus have not DTD everyday like last time. Thinking about starting to DTD every 2nd from now. Today is CD17 I think.

Ah, gotcha. I really think every other day is a good strategy if you don't care to worry about tracking your ovulation. Requires that you really put some booty-effort into dtd every day (:bigsmile:) but it is pretty stress-free. I read this HILARIOUS book called "Exploiting My Baby" which is a joke, of course, written by an actress, but she was 37 I think, and super worried about fertility and was getting too stressed out about the opks and all, so they dtd every other day all month and she had a boy. Re: bsf- I was worried for many months when I started swaying and ttc back in the FREAKIN' ice ages that it was hindering me also.....funny thing is, now that I look back on my FF charts to the months that we did miraculously conceive, I did bsf! I am thinking that the rise in ph in my vag from that helped less of his already small number of swimmers die en route? Does that make sense to any of you other swaymasters? I think I might try it this month. Why not, right? But LBAM, go for some opks when you get home and see what's up, maybe?

[LolaInLove]

I think I need to be doing something different than the IG diet I had been doing before this chemical pregnancy. I had been so off the diet during Christmas when I knew I was preggo that this is stressing me out right now. I think I'm on cd7 if you count the day I started spotting from the chemical and if my cycle isn't wacko this month. So, if what I understand is correct, just eat very healthy, full of vitamins food and avoid all artificial? I apologize if this is somewhere else on a different board, I'm just confused what to do this next go around. Maybe the lack of key vitamins played a role in the chemical?!?

Girl, most chemicals are from little balls of cells that just didn't make it.....most, docs think, from abnormality. So there is nothing YOU did to cause it, for sure. Hell, crackheads and people with horrific nutritional intake have babies all the time. I will say that the IG diet is AWFUL in my opinion. Super unhealthy, and made me get fat and feel terrible in only 6 months time. There are a bunch of good info posts about the diets.....look in the sticky note section of the boy swaying board. When I get back from a break at work, I will try to repost some. But yes, that is the gist of it. Higher calories, higher nutrients, and a nice and steady blood sugar all lend to more boys.

[TTC5]

With my last daughter I had suffered a really yucky loss just the month before her conception (I went for 8 week u/s and watched my babies hb slow until it stopped 3mins later, then decided to miscarry naturally which took a further 4 weeks, the m/c was like short labour and I passed the sac complete with baby still inside). No joke I POAS for the first 5 months of the next pregnancy which resulted in our youngest daughter!! Sometimes multiple times a day...I think I had some issues!!!

Big big hugs that would have been very traumatic :(

[TTC5]

Thanks cinss. Yep, i think this thread is more active so i will repost my question from the other thread here.

Hi Everyone,

I'm new on this forum but have been a member on ingender for long. I've been on and off many times from this ttc wagon. Thanks for starting the Jan thread and wish everyone a very happy new year.

I'm all set to ttc this month and need lots of good wishes from everyone and my sincere wishes are with everyone. Yesterday was my first day of AF and I am going to do following things from AF to OV. Could you plz let me know if anyone has any suggestion for what i should do or not do.

1) Drinks-ACV 2 times/day, COT drink 2 times/day, Fresh extracted Grapefruit juice 8Oz/day
2) Royal Jelly/Pollen bee - 1 spoon morning and 1 spoon night
3) Lots of fruits, juices and veggies along with all the ttc Boy supplements.

This is the first month that i'm eating Royal Jelly n pollen bee and i'm hoping that ovulation is going to be either delayed or early a little bit. How about grape fruit juice? Is it good or should i stop that?

Regarding fresh extracted grape fruit juice....has something changed? I believe 2 years back it was considered good for TTC boy...i googled and found grape fruit juice to increase estrogen level.....is that bad for TTC boy?

I think grapefruit is fine :)

[TTC5]

Yamaha, so sorry for your loss :(

[TTC5]

Aha I'll repost here on the active thread:

Happy New Year ladies! I hope all are doing well.

I am sitting on pins and needles here... We have been using the Marquette method of NFP/FAM where you monitor cervical fluid and use the CBFM to watch hormone patterns. They have a breastfeeding protocol to use before cycles resume. Essentially, if you have no mucus and get a "low" on the monitor, you are safe. If you get a High or have mucus, you're to abstain. If you're getting a peak your cycles are probably about to start and you go to normal NFP protocol after your first period.

Well I have been having all lows with highs here and there, but no period, no peaks. DH and I DTD on Tuesday b/c I had a low and no mucus. Then yesterday morning I got a peak on the monitor, out of nowhere!! I have a little mucus now, but no EWCM. I'm kinda worried now... The Marquette doctors actively monitor charts and help out on the forums, so the doctor said it's pretty much just wait and see, and really annoying I got NO high before a peak... I'm also temping and no shift yet so I didn't O yet... The DR said if I O today or tomorrow there's around an 85% chance we won't get pg... Obviously he does not know me LOL.

If anything we would be leaning girl sway right now with me losing off all my baby weight from Honor (I was getting to where I'm looking good, too!)... Though I am actively strength training. I told DH if I am pg I want to go Team Green and he said no LOL!

Right now I'm a little in shock (didn't realize you could even go low to peak with no warning! I don't have any OPK's to test w/ those). I just need to tell somewhere, and here is safe... And just wait and see.

Honor is still super high-maint, so I hope for her sake this was just hormones trying to start up but not making it.

I was the one who wanted to DTD on Tues, so DH said that in the future we should just abstain if I'm in the mood :p

Sorry this is long gals, just needed somewhere to talk...

Oh wow! I guess we all have to wait and see!!!! ;)

[Cinss]

Son4meplz i think a very important blue sway task is to eat breakfast within 30mins of waking up, and you should try to get protien and carbs at every meal. Lots of salt on your food and bananas everyday. V8 is a really nutricious drink if you can get that in everyday too that would be great. Have a look at the sucessful boy sway thread for more tips, i have my plan in my blog if you want to have a look at that too.

[skrimpy]

Tried to get caught up and do a personals post girls!

(((hugs))) for you gals with chemicals and bfn's this month!!

Flava - it must be so tough to hear no more baby. (((hugs))) hun.

Flava and Lola, I've lost my weight by getting serious and not cheating with Atkins! It's easier b/c DH is doing it too. It is working super well! I am using Dr. Atkins book from 2002, though, not the new program by the Atkins company. We aren't using any of the bars and stuff either, just making it at home + eating simple snacks. I feel great!!

iluv - ((hugs)) for DD. I'm so glad you got some answers and can start to work out a plan for your family and your sweet girl. We homeschool too and I love how I can work so directly with each of my children and their "quirks." DH has Asperger's syndrome and though he has his strange habits and quirkyness, I really adore him for who he is.

TTC5 - oh hun, I hope you guys are able to conceive. I'm glad your GP has said you still probably have a chance. Good for you to call Legal Aid... like you said, it's important that this does not ever happen to anyone again. I hope you have a little bub in your arms soon!!

Lola - so tough that your ex is getting a baby when you want one so badly. I am really keeping my FX that you will get pg soon. Your man's swimmers have got to be getting a boost from everything you have him on ;)

Oh Princess of Pink, how hard that must have been with the m/c!! I can understand how you have wanted to be super-vigilant since then!!

cinss - did you POAS again?

Son4me - I think that the grapefruit juice is fine if it increases estrogen. You want high estrogen & testosterone for a boy, low both for a girl. DH wants low estrogen and high testosterone for a boy. I agree with the other ladies that the High Everything diet is good food-wise. I think you supps sound good.

[skrimpy]

Thanks for the FX hobber, lola, and ttc5! I am really hoping I don't end up O'ing. I am really having no mucus, just light moisture (haahaa tmi I know!) The doctor says if I do O that it's really normal for the luteal phase to be too short to sustain a pregnancy, which is depressing but reassuring at the same time (don't like the thought of a little bean not making it due to hostile environment, kwim?) But then knowing my luck with getting knocked up I would. But I really don't feel ready. I'm frustrated that my body has to be the one to go from 0 to 60 with no warning, lol!

I had such a hard pregnancy with Honor, I told DH if this one is meant to come along I'm not going to be bummed just because I didn't get my planned timing, and I'm going to enjoy my pregnancy. I feel fantastic now so I hope I can have an enjoyable pregnancy. I do think I'd really like to go Team Green though... I kind of would rather not even face dealing with GD again... but I'm getting a little ahead of myself. We are hoping to move house next spring/summer so I was really wanting to be moved before TTC/swaying.

With Honor we were avoiding but I was totally playing with fire and I knew it... just went for the feelings in the moment. So even though she was a "surprise" I knew we were taking a chance ;p This one is really a shocker though!

Ah well, nothing to do but watch temperatures for a couple of weeks!!!!

It's so frustrating to sit here worrying about this when you gals are all dying to be preggers!! I'm sending you all my baby dust!!!!!! I really just want to be cheerleader for now ;)

[Cinss]

Skrimpy - no POAS today, waiting for tomorrow morning and i will be 14 DPO and AF will be due:nails:

[love being a mummy]

Ah, gotcha. I really think every other day is a good strategy if you don't care to worry about tracking your ovulation. Requires that you really put some booty-effort into dtd every day (:bigsmile:) but it is pretty stress-free. I read this HILARIOUS book called "Exploiting My Baby" which is a joke, of course, written by an actress, but she was 37 I think, and super worried about fertility and was getting too stressed out about the opks and all, so they dtd every other day all month and she had a boy. Re: bsf- I was worried for many months when I started swaying and ttc back in the FREAKIN' ice ages that it was hindering me also.....funny thing is, now that I look back on my FF charts to the months that we did miraculously conceive, I did bsf! I am thinking that the rise in ph in my vag from that helped less of his already small number of swimmers die en route? Does that make sense to any of you other swaymasters? I think I might try it this month. Why not, right? But LBAM, go for some opks when you get home and see what's up, maybe?

Sounds good I might try BSF once, I was doing it like everytime before BD and a few times during the day so I think I done it too much.

I got a little bit of EWCM around 11am today and some cramps around 2pm today, I am wondering if I did O earlier today or if it's coming tonight / tomorrow. I'm worried I have left it too late now.

I know timing isn't really important though, but I haven't been on supps, on Multi V and Folic acid. Hubby has been on Multi V and L-arg when he remembers to take it.

I'm looking for opinions from everyone, if you were me would you try tonight ?

[TTC5]

Skrimpy - no POAS today, waiting for tomorrow morning and i will be 14 DPO and AF will be due:nails:

Good Luck!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Sounds good I might try BSF once, I was doing it like everytime before BD and a few times during the day so I think I done it too much.

I got a little bit of EWCM around 11am today and some cramps around 2pm today, I am wondering if I did O earlier today or if it's coming tonight / tomorrow. I'm worried I have left it too late now.

I know timing isn't really important though, but I haven't been on supps, on Multi V and Folic acid. Hubby has been on Multi V and L-arg when he remembers to take it.

I'm looking for opinions from everyone, if you were me would you try tonight ?

I would. I know I cramp 48hrs before O!!

[Plum3]

With my last daughter I had suffered a really yucky loss just the month before her conception (I went for 8 week u/s and watched my babies hb slow until it stopped 3mins later, then decided to miscarry naturally which took a further 4 weeks, the m/c was like short labour and I passed the sac complete with baby still inside). No joke I POAS for the first 5 months of the next pregnancy which resulted in our youngest daughter!! Sometimes multiple times a day...I think I had some issues!!!

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter. That would have been so hard watching the hb stop :(

Maybe just a little POAS problem ;)

[Plum3]

Son4me, welcome :) Lola gave some great advice re drinks etc. I don't do any of them except V8 juice and occasionally a ural here and there from AF to O.

[Plum3]

Skrimpy - no POAS today, waiting for tomorrow morning and i will be 14 DPO and AF will be due:nails:

Good luck :D

[Plum3]

Sounds good I might try BSF once, I was doing it like everytime before BD and a few times during the day so I think I done it too much.

I got a little bit of EWCM around 11am today and some cramps around 2pm today, I am wondering if I did O earlier today or if it's coming tonight / tomorrow. I'm worried I have left it too late now.

I know timing isn't really important though, but I haven't been on supps, on Multi V and Folic acid. Hubby has been on Multi V and L-arg when he remembers to take it.

I'm looking for opinions from everyone, if you were me would you try tonight ?

I would go for it too!

[Plum3]

Skrimpy, what a situation! Hopefully it's just hormones playing up a little. Keep us updated!

[Bumblebee]

Skrimpy - no POAS today, waiting for tomorrow morning and i will be 14 DPO and AF will be due:nails:

ooh good luck testing!

[Hobbermittens]

I think I need to be doing something different than the IG diet I had been doing before this chemical pregnancy. I had been so off the diet during Christmas when I knew I was preggo that this is stressing me out right now. I think I'm on cd7 if you count the day I started spotting from the chemical and if my cycle isn't wacko this month. So, if what I understand is correct, just eat very healthy, full of vitamins food and avoid all artificial? I apologize if this is somewhere else on a different board, I'm just confused what to do this next go around. Maybe the lack of key vitamins played a role in the chemical?!?

Have you seen the threads about the HE diet?

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/1397-recipes-meal-suggestions-ttc-blue.html

That is what many of us are doing. Always eat protein + carbs together, and eat large meals plus 2-3 snacks a day. Always have breakfast (eat within 30 minutes of waking up) and a bedtime snack.

[Hobbermittens]

Cinss--have you tested today??

Bec, how about you--is it test day yet?

Skrimpy, what happened?? DId you O?

TTC5, I hope that all the BDing you are doing will get you pregnant! FX for you! I am glad you got hopeful news from your doctor.

Lola, that sucks about your ex. :( I hate when lousy people get things they don't really deserve, and good people like you are struggling!

LBAM, did you DTD last night? I would tonight if you haven't yet, and then every other day through O. That's what we are doing this cycle.

So it is CD9... I think we are doing our first attempt tonight, but maybe tomorrow am. I can't decide. I usually O on CD13 or 14 (occasionally 15) and I was planning on DTD every other day. So either tonight, and do CD9, CD11, CD13 (and CD15 if necessary); OR tomorrow am so it would be CD10 am, CD12pm, CD14am. What do you all think?? I don't have any EW yet, but things are getting wetter down there, so I wonder if waiting until tomorrow would be better? I just haven't gotten pregnant from the last two cycles of only DTD 2x. so I want to add at least one more BD.

I also can't decide what to do about using eggwhites or preseed!! :nails: I feel like whichever I chose will be the wrong choice!!

[LolaInLove]

Hobbers, you could also do the SMEP/Deanna's plan if you just want to get pg....but I think dtd every other day, even if starting now or tomorrow is also good. Even if you O on the "off" day, you will have dtd right before and after too. I really don't think the SMEP (sperm meets egg plan) is bad for a boy sway either. I asked my gf last night what they did to conceive their son, and she told me they dtd every day once they got a +opk for like 4 days. She's a ballerina and a super picky eater, so she is totally not on any sort of boy-friendly diet, either. BUT-she is healthy, and she said they used preseed. Interesting, no? Either way, Hobbs, good luck!!!

POP, that is completely horrific....I am so sorry you had to experience that! I had a bad 8wk u/s also where there was nothing in my sac, but that pales in comparison to your experience. I am so sorry......here's to us having GOOD 8wk scans someday in the very near future (*holding up my V8 to you*).

Skrimpy, thanks for the sympathy. It does suck. People keep reminding me that I should not be jealous and we'll have one of our own soon, so I need to just try to have a more zen attitude about it and just keep myself focuses on our future success. Other shit thing- they named her almost the exact name I'd name a new daughter (which I only care about because they would be my girl's little sisters.....awkward). My DH says it doesn't matter, because we're not going to have a daughter. Got my FX that you are just having a scare....you are a great cheerleader! And I hear you about moving and whatnot....would be nice to get that out of the way and let Honor get a bit older. I hear ya.

Cinss, excited for your poasing tomorrow morning!!!! BIG FX!

[LolaInLove]

By the way, I looked up the "new arrivals" of the hospital here and saw a pic of my ex's new daughter.....and my office poll is she's so not cute AT ALL. Many of them thought she looked like a boy. LOL!!!!

:nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd:

[Princess of Pink]

By the way, I looked up the "new arrivals" of the hospital here and saw a pic of my ex's new daughter.....and my office poll is she's so not cute AT ALL. Many of them thought she looked like a boy. LOL!!!!

:nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd::nyd:

LOL..Love it!! He can have an ugly baby girl...you're gonna get a cute little boy!!

[skrimpy]

LOL Lola :p poor little gal though, not her fault has a jerk for a dad! I really do think you guys will get pg, and listen to your DH about you getting a little blue bundle. My DH seems to have a 6th sense about that sort of thing!

Hobber I think I would go for DTD on CD 11 & 13 personally. For our blue sway I O'd on CD 12 and we BD'd that day (were too busy moving on CD 10, plus my EWCM hadn't reached peak). But I would feel comfy BD'ing on any day I had EWCM. I personally would lean towards the Preseed, but the thought of egg whites is kinda icky to me... :p. If you have copious EWCM maybe you could skip lube unless you need the ph help?

AFM - well I don't think I O'd... No temp jump at all. The monitor gave a High, but I knew it would do that since it gives Peak, Peak, High regardless... Looking at the stick though (I know you're not supposed to but I do), it's back to a totally "Low" look with NO Lh line even detectable. I am thinking my body tried to O but the breastfeeding hormones just suppressed it maybe? I will def be on the lookout for a period and I'm still going to watch my temps to see if something shifts, but I really don't think it's going to. I think if I was going to O it would have happened by now since I got the first peak reading two mornings ago. Still keeping FX!

[TTC5]

LOL Lola hehehe!

Cinss, tested yet?

[TTC5]

OMG my hubby makes me laugh, he sure does keep my spirits high in desperate times!
So we have been bd'ing every 48 hours for the last few days (around O) anyway... he is trying to lose this weight that he gained from swaying the past 12 months. He has been weighing daily and weighed this morning pre sex and then again after sex and comes running to me "Babe!! I dropped 400gms.. I deposited 400gms of sperm in you!!!" LMFAO he was so proud... if only it really was that much I'd be sure to catch the egg then HAHAHAHA

[Hobbermittens]

OMG my hubby makes me laugh, he sure does keep my spirits high in desperate times!
So we have been bd'ing every 48 hours for the last few days (around O) anyway... he is trying to lose this weight that he gained from swaying the past 12 months. He has been weighing daily and weighed this morning pre sex and then again after sex and comes running to me "Babe!! I dropped 400gms.. I deposited 400gms of sperm in you!!!" LMFAO he was so proud... if only it really was that much I'd be sure to catch the egg then HAHAHAHA

That's hilarious! I hope he did give you that much of a deposit!

[Cinss]

Thank you ALL for the good lucks... BFN this morning waaaaaa, no evap... nothing!!! AF still not showing her ugly head. I am thinking i still have a teeny tiny chance of being pregnant, it is just so hard not knowing. Guess ill wait another 2 days to test again.

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, that super stinks about your DH stealing your future baby's name!! I hope you get a boy, like your DH says, so you won't need a girl name anyway. :)

[TTC5]

Is AF now late Cinss?

[Hobbermittens]

Thank you ALL for the good lucks... BFN this morning waaaaaa, no evap... nothing!!! AF still not showing her ugly head. I am thinking i still have a teeny tiny chance of being pregnant, it is just so hard not knowing. Guess ill wait another 2 days to test again.

:( Sorry about the BFN! Maybe it's just a late one??

[Cinss]

Is AF now late Cinss?

She was due today... we DTD this morning and usually when we do it this close to AF there will be a pink tinge afterwards but there was no colour at all, so i have fingers legs and eyes crossed that it wont come at all.

[skrimpy]

OMG my hubby makes me laugh, he sure does keep my spirits high in desperate times!
So we have been bd'ing every 48 hours for the last few days (around O) anyway... he is trying to lose this weight that he gained from swaying the past 12 months. He has been weighing daily and weighed this morning pre sex and then again after sex and comes running to me "Babe!! I dropped 400gms.. I deposited 400gms of sperm in you!!!" LMFAO he was so proud... if only it really was that much I'd be sure to catch the egg then HAHAHAHA

LOL 5!! That sounds like something my DH would say to make me smile :). I'm glad he can help cheer you up, it's good for you right now.

[skrimpy]

She was due today... we DTD this morning and usually when we do it this close to AF there will be a pink tinge afterwards but there was no colour at all, so i have fingers legs and eyes crossed that it wont come at all.

Keeping FX for you hun! I get the pink tinge too when we DTD right around AF time. I really hope you'll get a BFP soon. I didn't get a BFP with my second or third until I was a week late!

[iluvmyman]

5 - not much to say but so sorry and big, big hug :(

Iluv - so glad your back and all is well. Bummer on the diabetes, hope it won't be too brutal. I like Carrigan, fx dh sticks with it.

Cinss- sorry about the bfn but like others have said, early :)

we r really struggling with a middle name for Carriagn. Rose and Michelle can't be used but I liked them. Any suggestions?

[TTC5]

Carrigan Ruby
Carrigan Louise
Carrigan Mae
Carrigan Maree
Carrigan Elizabeth
Carrigan Jayne
Carrigan Brooke
Carrigan Willow
Carrigan Ruth
Carrigan Amy

[Kris217]

Something short and sweet would go well with Carrigan, I'm having the same issues with a middle name! Good luck with it!

[Hobbermittens]

we r really struggling with a middle name for Carriagn. Rose and Michelle can't be used but I liked them. Any suggestions?

What about Leigh, Grace, or Renee?

[Cinss]

we r really struggling with a middle name for Carriagn. Rose and Michelle can't be used but I liked them. Any suggestions?

Rochelle? combo of the 2?

[love being a mummy]

Yes we DTD last night. Got some more cramps over night.
Really not sure what day to count as O day ? Maybe I just start testing 10days from now ?

[Yahmama]

Girl, most chemicals are from little balls of cells that just didn't make it.....most, docs think, from abnormality. So there is nothing YOU did to cause it, for sure. Hell, crackheads and people with horrific nutritional intake have babies all the time. I will say that the IG diet is AWFUL in my opinion. Super unhealthy, and made me get fat and feel terrible in only 6 months time. There are a bunch of good info posts about the diets.....look in the sticky note section of the boy swaying board. When I get back from a break at work, I will try to repost some. But yes, that is the gist of it. Higher calories, higher nutrients, and a nice and steady blood sugar all lend to more boys.

Thank you SO much! I don't know why I never went to read the diet stuff on here after I left IG because the site went to crap. I figured it was the same, so I'm SO GLAD y'all were discussing it! SInce I looked everything up on here the past couple of days, I've been doing the HE diet. Do you think 2 weeks is enough of it after doing IG for 2 months with a 2 week break off everything over Christmas? Also, I typically eat meat at every meal anyway because that's how my mom cooked growing up, so I continued that style of cooking with my family. Before I was stressing over the breads, etc. that contained calcium so the only carbs I was eating was fruits, potatoes, rice. It's been such a relief the past 2 days to feel like i can pretty much eat normal like I usually would except to avoid diet drinks, coffee, sweets like I would in the past. I must say when I had my 2 girls I was probably overdosing on dairy--milk at every meal, yogurt, and ice cream too. So even though what I read said dairy is ok I'm still limiting it these couple of weeks.

[TTC5]

Yes we DTD last night. Got some more cramps over night.
Really not sure what day to count as O day ? Maybe I just start testing 10days from now ?

I don't know either so I will just wait to see if AF is late.

[Cinss]

15 DPO, no AF, didn't test, will wait till tomorrow.

[Hobbermittens]

Thank you SO much! I don't know why I never went to read the diet stuff on here after I left IG because the site went to crap. I figured it was the same, so I'm SO GLAD y'all were discussing it! SInce I looked everything up on here the past couple of days, I've been doing the HE diet. Do you think 2 weeks is enough of it after doing IG for 2 months with a 2 week break off everything over Christmas? Also, I typically eat meat at every meal anyway because that's how my mom cooked growing up, so I continued that style of cooking with my family. Before I was stressing over the breads, etc. that contained calcium so the only carbs I was eating was fruits, potatoes, rice. It's been such a relief the past 2 days to feel like i can pretty much eat normal like I usually would except to avoid diet drinks, coffee, sweets like I would in the past. I must say when I had my 2 girls I was probably overdosing on dairy--milk at every meal, yogurt, and ice cream too. So even though what I read said dairy is ok I'm still limiting it these couple of weeks.

I think the recommendation is 6 weeks, but if you were already doing the IG diet I am guessing it wouldn't be that big a deal to switch, as long as you were eating a lot of calories before, and doing the carbs+protiens, and keeping your blood sugar up. It is hard to eat all day long and keep yourself from being hungry!

[TTC5]

FX Cinss!

[Yahmama]

I think the recommendation is 6 weeks, but if you were already doing the IG diet I am guessing it wouldn't be that big a deal to switch, as long as you were eating a lot of calories before, and doing the carbs+protiens, and keeping your blood sugar up. It is hard to eat all day long and keep yourself from being hungry!

Well, I was def. eating higher calories all over the place due to all the eating out we were doing over the holidays with my DH home. And I had lost a bunch of weight up until October then gained during the IG diet and gained 2 more pounds over the holidays. So, I think I inadvertently did things right anyway!

[XXdreaming]

sorry wrong thread lol

[Hobbermittens]

Well, I was def. eating higher calories all over the place due to all the eating out we were doing over the holidays with my DH home. And I had lost a bunch of weight up until October then gained during the IG diet and gained 2 more pounds over the holidays. So, I think I inadvertently did things right anyway!

:agree:

Just make sure you do the other stuff I mentioned, and you should be fine. :)

[love being a mummy]

I don't know either so I will just wait to see if AF is late.

What date are you going to say AF is late?

[Plum3]

Hey everyone :)

Hobber, not testing for another 5 days. I'm not even impatient this time round which is a nice feeling. I'll have to go have a read of your other thread about your timing etc.

Cinss, good luck testing tomorrow!

Lola, maybe it's karma that your DH got a not so good looking baby!

Skrimpy, glad that you didn't O (feels odd saying that!). No temp shift?

5, your DH sounds adorable. How are you going?

[Hobbermittens]

I have my fingers crossed for you, Bec!

[Cinss]

Back to the drawing board for me, AF came on last night while DTD. My cycle was 36 days long, so bummed, so long to wait for the next shot. You girls with short cycles should consider yourselves lucky in that aspect.

[TTC5]

What date are you going to say AF is late?

In around 8 days so next Tuesday!

[TTC5]

Hey everyone :)

Hobber, not testing for another 5 days. I'm not even impatient this time round which is a nice feeling. I'll have to go have a read of your other thread about your timing etc.

Cinss, good luck testing tomorrow!

Lola, maybe it's karma that your DH got a not so good looking baby!

Skrimpy, glad that you didn't O (feels odd saying that!). No temp shift?

5, your DH sounds adorable. How are you going?

I'm much more relaxed now i am not obsessing with opks and tests and temping.. trying to stay positive and patient that it will happen one day!

[TTC5]

Back to the drawing board for me, AF came on last night while DTD. My cycle was 36 days long, so bummed, so long to wait for the next shot. You girls with short cycles should consider yourselves lucky in that aspect.

Big hugs :(

[Hobbermittens]

Back to the drawing board for me, AF came on last night while DTD. My cycle was 36 days long, so bummed, so long to wait for the next shot. You girls with short cycles should consider yourselves lucky in that aspect.

Bummer! :( I'm sorry about AF.

[Cinss]

I'm much more relaxed now i am not obsessing with opks and tests and temping.. trying to stay positive and patient that it will happen one day!

I really think this will work out for you :)

[skrimpy]

((hugs)) cinss. So sorry the old witch showed up!

[skrimpy]

Still no temp shift for me so I haven't O'd. My chart says I did due to the peak on the monitor and it's driving me nuts. I'm waiting to see if it will remove the O day once it realizes my temps have def not shifted. I'm curious if my periods will start back now, though, since my body seems to have tried to ovulate.

I am sending out ALL my baby dust to you gals. You can keep it til next year!

[Kris217]

Failed my glucose test so now I have to book in for the second test.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies, How's everyone? I hope you're all doing well ..

Cinss I'm so sorry AF showed. I always hate my LONG cycle and I envy those girls whose cycles come like clockwork, and those with short cycle lol.

[My Fabulous Children]

Kris' I'm so sorry you didn't pass the glucose test :( I hope you pass the 2nd test, Good luck.

[My Fabulous Children]

I have a Dr. appointment tomorrow I think I will get my 1st Scan tomorrow! Can't wait to see my baby and hear the heart beat I hope all is well, I'm a little nervous. :nails:

[Cinss]

MyFab - oooohhhh goodie, will you post pics for gender guesses? I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.

[TTC5]

Failed my glucose test so now I have to book in for the second test.

Hope the second goes ok!

[TTC5]

I have a Dr. appointment tomorrow I think I will get my 1st Scan tomorrow! Can't wait to see my baby and hear the heart beat I hope all is well, I'm a little nervous. :nails:

How exciting :)

[TTC5]

I really think this will work out for you :)

If not, I have app next month with legal aide and seriously thinking of taking the hospital to court for at least compensation if possible in form of IVF?

[TTC5]

Everyone around me is dreaming that I am pregnant or giving birth to a boy... 2 of my daughters have now dreamt it! I also got an email from a girl I grew up with (although we do not see each other anymore) she said she dreamt I had another baby and had a boy.

Why is everyone dreaming this lol and noone knows we are even TTC!!!!!????

[Princess of Pink]

Thats an awesome sign 5!!!

I have a question. My cycle is so predictable...I even get AF on either fri or sat every 4 weeks. I was due to ovulate between fri-sun and haven't had a + opk yet (it's now mon night here). I am drinking prob 6L of liquid a day and pee a million times a day. Do you think I have O'ed and the amount of liquid I drink has diluted it so much it never got +??? I have been wanting to hump anything that walks past since mid last week...gone now tho...a normal sign I am Oing.

[TTC5]

Pink it could be that... do you chart?

[Princess of Pink]

No I am too slack. lol I tried for a while but wake up at different times and forget on the weekends. Maybe I will have to get strict and start if opk's don't work anymore with my intake of liquids. Or do I just trust my body and BD when I am horny lol

[Yahmama]

Back to the drawing board for me, AF came on last night while DTD. My cycle was 36 days long, so bummed, so long to wait for the next shot. You girls with short cycles should consider yourselves lucky in that aspect.

So sorry :(. Wonder if a long cycle this time might mean a shorter one next? That's what usu happens to me.

[Yahmama]

I'm thinking I might O early this month after my chemical last month. I'm only on cd 11 from when I started spotting with the chemical, but I am already starting to have fertile looking mucus like I get only 2 days before O. My temp is constant still, so maybe I should start my opks today? I usually start them on cd12 bc I normally O on cd16. It's almost like my body is trying to get back where it would have been if I didn't have the chemical? Anyone else have an experience similar to this?

[Cinss]

Thats an awesome sign 5!!!

I have a question. My cycle is so predictable...I even get AF on either fri or sat every 4 weeks. I was due to ovulate between fri-sun and haven't had a + opk yet (it's now mon night here). I am drinking prob 6L of liquid a day and pee a million times a day. Do you think I have O'ed and the amount of liquid I drink has diluted it so much it never got +??? I have been wanting to hump anything that walks past since mid last week...gone now tho...a normal sign I am Oing.

I asked this question a little while ago, because i was drinking URAL i thought it was diluting my urine, turns out not to be the case and i did get a +opk a few days later than expected. That was happening a lot over the board, so maybe it is happening to you too. If you are taking supps like EPO or L-arg, they can mess with cycle length.

[Cinss]

I'm thinking I might O early this month after my chemical last month. I'm only on cd 11 from when I started spotting with the chemical, but I am already starting to have fertile looking mucus like I get only 2 days before O. My temp is constant still, so maybe I should start my opks today? I usually start them on cd12 bc I normally O on cd16. It's almost like my body is trying to get back where it would have been if I didn't have the chemical? Anyone else have an experience similar to this?

Hard to tell what your body will do after a chemical... I would go with your gut and start the OPKs now seeing as you have started to get fertile CM.

[TTC5]

No I am too slack. lol I tried for a while but wake up at different times and forget on the weekends. Maybe I will have to get strict and start if opk's don't work anymore with my intake of liquids. Or do I just trust my body and BD when I am horny lol

I would haha!

[Princess of Pink]

Thanks so much Cinss. Looks like you might be right, lots of EWCM today. Looks like an abnormally long cycle for me. Bet it will be heading towards a + by the time I get home from work.

[Yahmama]

Hard to tell what your body will do after a chemical... I would go with your gut and start the OPKs now seeing as you have started to get fertile CM.

Did an OPK and neg...not even a line in sight, so I guess I'm not in danger of Oing early! I can usually start seeing a line about 3-4 days before O.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies,

I had ultrasound done today when I was suppose to be 10 weeks 5 days according to my ovulation day and I'm only measuring 10W0D ..My OB told me not to worry and nothing was wrong, but I can't help it :worry:
The baby was moving all around, but I am so worried, Any thoughts?

I told her about the NT scan, She said why I want to have a NT scan done? NT scans for specific high risk pregnancies ..I said I want make sure that everything is OK with the baby, I didn't say anything about the nub theory. They will scheduled me for NT scan soon.

Here is a picture from my scan ..

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6670947935_c81db429ef.jpg

[TTC5]

I'm sure all is fine, only a few days out and not all bubs are spot on for size.

[Hobbermittens]

I bet it is fine too. :) Try not to worry MFC!

[Hobbermittens]

Still no temp shift for me so I haven't O'd. My chart says I did due to the peak on the monitor and it's driving me nuts. I'm waiting to see if it will remove the O day once it realizes my temps have def not shifted. I'm curious if my periods will start back now, though, since my body seems to have tried to ovulate.

I am sending out ALL my baby dust to you gals. You can keep it til next year!

Glad to hear it! :)

[Hobbermittens]

Everyone around me is dreaming that I am pregnant or giving birth to a boy... 2 of my daughters have now dreamt it! I also got an email from a girl I grew up with (although we do not see each other anymore) she said she dreamt I had another baby and had a boy.

Why is everyone dreaming this lol and noone knows we are even TTC!!!!!????
I hope that is a sign!!

I also think it is a smart idea to ask about the IVF compensation if it comes to that. Hopefully you won't need it, though. :)

[Hobbermittens]

Do you think I have O'ed and the amount of liquid I drink has diluted it so much it never got +??? .

I think that is totally possible. This happened to me once too. Once I realized it, I backed off the drinks and was able to get a + before it was gone. Try drinking less aronnd the days you would expect a + next cycle.

[Hobbermittens]

Kris, sorry you didn't pass the glucose test. I hope the next one works out better! I had that happen during my second pregnancy, but the second round of tests was fine. :)

[Hobbermittens]

Did an OPK and neg...not even a line in sight, so I guess I'm not in danger of Oing early! I can usually start seeing a line about 3-4 days before O.

Just keep testing... it will happen sooner or later! Good luck! :)

[Hobbermittens]

SO we have 2 attempts down and we will go again in the morning. I am going to use EW this time, even though I used preseed before... do you think that is okay?

Also, DD2 had to have an x-ray because we thought she had swallowed a charm off DD1's necklace (thankfully, she is okay!!). I didn't go in the xray room during the xray, but had to go in and get her after. Is that okay? I worry about the spermies waiting inside me. I hope they were unharmed.

[Cinss]

MyFab - The measurement will always be off IMO, one day you can expect a tiny baby, then the next they will tell you the baby is really big... each little bundle is different, nothing to be worried about. Great pic, already smiling for the camera :)

[Cinss]

Hobber - im sure your little spermies are very safe inside there.. I wouldn't have even thought to wait outside the room.

[My Fabulous Children]

Thank you ladies, I can't wait to get another ultrasound! I'm so glad I asked for NT scan other wise I think I might have to wait longer to get another scan.

According to my O date my due date August 1st, but today the doctor says my due date is August 6th. Should I change my ticker? What do you think?:think:

[Cinss]

Nope i'd leave the ticker as it is :)

[TTC5]

I'd leave it too :)

[TTC5]

I hope that is a sign!!

I also think it is a smart idea to ask about the IVF compensation if it comes to that. Hopefully you won't need it, though. :)

I'm around 5 dpo but think I am out already :(

[TTC5]

SO we have 2 attempts down and we will go again in the morning. I am going to use EW this time, even though I used preseed before... do you think that is okay?

Also, DD2 had to have an x-ray because we thought she had swallowed a charm off DD1's necklace (thankfully, she is okay!!). I didn't go in the xray room during the xray, but had to go in and get her after. Is that okay? I worry about the spermies waiting inside me. I hope they were unharmed.

They would be fine xx

[Kris217]

Thank you ladies, I can't wait to get another ultrasound! I'm so glad I asked for NT scan other wise I think I might have to wait longer to get another scan.

According to my O date my due date August 1st, but today the doctor says my due date is August 6th. Should I change my ticker? What do you think?:think:

Yeah a few days either side doesn't really make much difference. I got put forward and I hadn't even done the insemination when they said I did so that's proof! I had an NT done, I thought it was standard procedure. I'm sure your bub is fine :)

[Cinss]

I'm around 5 dpo but think I am out already :(

Why, it's so early?

[Yahmama]

SO we have 2 attempts down and we will go again in the morning. I am going to use EW this time, even though I used preseed before... do you think that is okay?


I think that's fine! Glad your DD is ok, and the spermies will be fine!

[Yahmama]

TTC5, what makes you think you're out already? I agree it's still so early...FX for you

[Yahmama]

So, after the OPK not showing even a faint line yesterday, I woke up this am with a temp drop of - .4 and I did an OPK and it definitely had a line...though it was still fainter than the control line, it looks like it'll be tomorrow late or the next morning early that I O. It's been since Friday since we BD, which will be 4 days tonight, when we were going to do our cutoff. I'm worried about doing our cutoff tonight now since it might end up only being a 24-36 hr. cutoff. So, I called hubby at work and asked him if he could release this am. I'm so stressed about the timing now! I can usually predict O SO well to plan timing, but with the chemical last month, it's throwing me off! AAAAHHHHH!

[babyblessings]

Hi everyone
New here - been on the other Jan thread and now thought I'd introduce myself here.
Starting swaying this week! lots to take in and digest!

So sorry to hear TTC5... so shocking!

I have a few questions which would be great to get some input on. Atomic - any thoughts in particular?

1) I have found an alkalizing powder here that I am eager to use, but see it has calcium in it - I know that on GD, Calcium isnt such a big no-no, but I remain nervous about having too much in my diet (think some IG principles are still ingrained in me! lol :-)
Here's what the info says:

Multiforce Alkaline Powder contains a combination of minerals, plant calcium and tissue salts that support the body’s balancing and disease-prevention mechanisms. They impact on blood pH in the following way:

Magnesium Hydrogenium phosphate acts as a digestive antacid
Calcium citrate has phosphate-binding properties which results in alkalinity
Potassium Bicarbonate has blood alkalinising properties and acts on metabolic acidosis
Magnesium citrate has a bowel cleansing effect
Potassium citrate has a diuretic and alkalinising effect on the urine by combining with calcium and acid in the kidneys (this also helps prevent the formation of kidney stones)
Dicalciumphosphate 2-Hydrate is an easily absorbed calcium which controls acidity while building bones and helping prevent bone loss, and as an aid to reducing blood pressure and cardiac ailments
Plant calcium – Urtica Dioica – offers cleansing support to the kidneys by reducing acidity
Tissue Salts assist with assimilation of the formula and absorption of calcium
Acerola extract has antioxidant properties while imparting a pleasant flavour to the formula
How to take it
This A Vogel product can be used daily as part of a health management programme. Just stir a teaspoon of the powder into a large glass of water and drink once a day on an empty stomach.
It is safe in pregnancy and during lactation. A.Vogel Multiforce Alkaline Powder has no known drug interactions.

Patients on beta blockers for heart disorders or who have renal failure should consult their doctor before using Multiforce

2) I bought an ovulation microscope - think it works the same as OPKs, but cheaper as I can reuse each month ;-P When it starts to 'fern', one would be approaching ovulation. I get that. But how would you know if you have FINISHED ovulating - can I assume that if I 'ferned' yesterday, but today its clear, then I ovulated yest?? Struggling to understand how to tell when I have ovulated if I am not charting temps... I have 3 months to understand how to pin-point Ov!!

3) Hubby is taking TT - I am not. Is that ok?? Atomic - I read in one of your posts that you are not a fan??

Sorry about long post!

[babyblessings]

PS - Yahmama - I am sorry not to be able to offer advice (to new!) but good luck!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber - I wouldn't worry about the spermies, glad dd is ok :)

MFC - I wouldn't worry about the size or changing your ticker. Your little beans size can vary through the whole thing, at 20 wks my guy was a few days behind and is now almost a week ahead. They'll come when they're ready regardless of the date on the chart.

5 - 5dpo and giving up? How come?

yahmama - I'm sure the timing/cut-off will be fine. Keep in mind none of it is proven 100% anyway.

Babyblessings - welcome! 1- for me I'd skip the powder and focus on the HE diet. IG had us all so programed about pH and sups and I'll tell you a lot of us have gotten boys without them. I, for one, had a pH of 5-5.5 and did 1 bsf 30 minutes prior to our attempt. I was only taking a prenatal, fish oil and Vit D. My focus was on diet, I honestly think that is the biggest factor. On the other hand I would avoid any sup that messes with your blood pH, it's cm pH you want to change, and could have sever drug interactions. Just seems a little scary to me. 2- never used an o-scope 3- sorry no info on TT.

Sorry to be so absent lately ladies. I'm having some complications and didn't want to rain on the ttc parade but I really need/miss the support of this thread. Yes the blue crew grads are great but this is a more the merrier type of thing right now.
I found out before x-mas that at 33 wks I was measuring full term. They were nervous that I either had too much fluid or a huge baby so I was sent for an u/s. I had the u/s last week at 35wks and learned that he is about a week ahead with a slightly large head and belly. This isn't a concern but they wanted me to go for another gestational diabetes test. My fluid levels are on the high end of normal but still normal, so far so good right? Wrong, the baby is frank breach (I'll post a pic) and if he can't be turned I'll be having a c-section. Now before anyone argues he could in fact be born vaginally you are right, but the risks outweigh the benefits so we aren't considering it. I'm sure you ladies can understand that we waited so long for and did so much to get this little guy I can't put him in danger because I don't want surgery. Anyway on I've been doing all sorts of things to try and turn him but am sure none of them have worked. I have a doppler and his heartbeat is too high for him to be head down, this will be confirmed on Thursday. If I'm right I'll have an external version next week at 37wks and hope for the best. Anyway that's where we are for now. Here's his position, looks pretty comfy huh
http://img.tapatalk.com/ae17f623-706b-4ba4.jpg

[Hobbermittens]

So, after the OPK not showing even a faint line yesterday, I woke up this am with a temp drop of - .4 and I did an OPK and it definitely had a line...though it was still fainter than the control line, it looks like it'll be tomorrow late or the next morning early that I O. It's been since Friday since we BD, which will be 4 days tonight, when we were going to do our cutoff. I'm worried about doing our cutoff tonight now since it might end up only being a 24-36 hr. cutoff. So, I called hubby at work and asked him if he could release this am. I'm so stressed about the timing now! I can usually predict O SO well to plan timing, but with the chemical last month, it's throwing me off! AAAAHHHHH!

Your DH can release at work?? That's funny, kind of!

I think you could have also DTD tonight and tomorrow, but I guess it is too late for that? I think 36 hrs will be okay otherwise! We DTD this morning only 36hrs after last attempt. And we will DTD tomorrow morning one last time, which will be only be 24hrs.

[Yahmama]

3P1B, I've heard those external versions are very painful, but I wish you the best of luck of trying to get him turned around!

Babyblessings- I've never used a microscope, so I'm not sure what to tell you! Sorry, but GL to you! I know what you mean about having several IG concepts ingrained in your mind--I'm still that way a lot and the only thing I"m holding out on is the calcium/dairy thing. I take Vit. D supplement and don't worry about the calcium that is in bread, etc, but haven't been daring enough to drink milk and eat yogurt!

[Yahmama]

Your DH can release at work?? That's funny, kind of!

I think you could have also DTD tonight and tomorrow, but I guess it is too late for that? I think 36 hrs will be okay otherwise!

He was going to go to the bathroom! LOL I'm very lucky to have a committed DH who is on board with all this stuff! I didn't want to DTD tonight because I'm pretty sure I won't O until Wed. evening or Thurs morning based upon how my OPK's and temp have worked in previous cycles at the point I'm at now. I wish I had asked him to do our cutoff last night when I started noticing the fertile cm yesterday, but since there wasn't a line in sight on the OPK I thought I was safe. So, by him releasing this morning, that gives us at least 36 hours at the min. before an attempt Wed. evening, but hopefully we can hold off until Thurs am before he goes to work! Praying O holds off!

[Hobbermittens]

3P1B, Sorry that Charlie is breech, but I totally understand why you would go for the C-section. I would too in your case. You will be fine, and so will he! Try not to worry about it. :) It is a bummer, but you will both do great, and this way you can really plan for his birth, getting your other kiddos squared away with whoever will be staying with them, etc. ALso, I remember you saying that you weren't too excited about having Charlie's birthday so close to one of your other kids, so with a C-section he will come early, right? Have they set a date?

[Hobbermittens]

Babyblessings- I've never used a microscope, so I'm not sure what to tell you! Sorry, but GL to you! I know what you mean about having several IG concepts ingrained in your mind--I'm still that way a lot and the only thing I"m holding out on is the calcium/dairy thing. I take Vit. D supplement and don't worry about the calcium that is in bread, etc, but haven't been daring enough to drink milk and eat yogurt!
ME TOO!

[Hobbermittens]

He was going to go to the bathroom! LOL I'm very lucky to have a committed DH who is on board with all this stuff! I didn't want to DTD tonight because I'm pretty sure I won't O until Wed. evening or Thurs morning based upon how my OPK's and temp have worked in previous cycles at the point I'm at now. I wish I had asked him to do our cutoff last night when I started noticing the fertile cm yesterday, but since there wasn't a line in sight on the OPK I thought I was safe. So, by him releasing this morning, that gives us at least 36 hours at the min. before an attempt Wed. evening, but hopefully we can hold off until Thurs am before he goes to work! Praying O holds off!

You are lucky! My DH is grudgingly doing SOME of the things I ask, but if I push too much, he gets bitchy!

We had the same issue with the 4 days as you thus cycle--though I chose to DTD every other day this cycle, so we just had to start on CD 9 rather than CD10 when I wanted. I decided to DTD a bunch this cycle because that's how I got my first son, and the last two months of trying just 2 days a cycle have given me BFNs. Plus I just turned 39 so I am running out of time!

[Hobbermittens]

I'm around 5 dpo but think I am out already :(

Why?

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber- in terms of planning the c-section would be great. My other 3 deliveries were rushing to the hospital in the late evening or middle of the night so a leisurely venture would be great. No c-section scheduled yet, we want to try to turn him first. If we have to it'll be scheduled for 39 wks as we can't risk me going into labor with a breech, so yep it'll put him and dd1 4 weeks apart which would be great. Can I say though the thought of having him in 3 wks instead of 4 is a bit unnerving. I'm totally ready but it all the sudden seems so close lol


Stopping watching calcium in food was my route too, I ate a bit of cheese but wasn't drinking milk or eating any other dairy either. Not to avoid it, I just don't normally ingest tons of diary which led me to believe calcium wasn't a huge factor in my girls.

[babyblessings]

He was going to go to the bathroom! LOL I'm very lucky to have a committed DH who is on board with all this stuff! I didn't want to DTD tonight because I'm pretty sure I won't O until Wed. evening or Thurs morning based upon how my OPK's and temp have worked in previous cycles at the point I'm at now. I wish I had asked him to do our cutoff last night when I started noticing the fertile cm yesterday, but since there wasn't a line in sight on the OPK I thought I was safe. So, by him releasing this morning, that gives us at least 36 hours at the min. before an attempt Wed. evening, but hopefully we can hold off until Thurs am before he goes to work! Praying O holds off!

Yahmama - thank you! I think I am going to do the same as you - not worry about taking in calcium anywhere else, but avoid dairy as much as possible - I love my morning cup of tea though and so was very happy to have the excuse to have a little full fat milk in it! lol!
Please can you explain two things to me? Firstly, how did you use the OPKs to determine your O day? I know this sounds like such a basic question, but I am tracking 3 cycles to help me ttc in May, and so don't have too many months to get it wrong :-( I guess my fundamental question is: how did you know you had ovulated?? just through temp changes??
And then - pleeeeeeeease can someone explain the cutt off thing to me - I am so confused :-(

[babyblessings]

just re-read my post - to clarify...I do know how to use the OPKs to determine that O will happen in next 12 - 48 hours, but I have never been off the pill for any length of time before, and so I don't really know my cycles. I don't know how to determine how soon after OPK shows a smiley, i PERSONALLY actually ovulate. Some ladies seem to be able to pinpoint it - how???

[Yahmama]

just re-read my post - to clarify...I do know how to use the OPKs to determine that O will happen in next 12 - 48 hours, but I have never been off the pill for any length of time before, and so I don't really know my cycles. I don't know how to determine how soon after OPK shows a smiley, i PERSONALLY actually ovulate. Some ladies seem to be able to pinpoint it - how???

I look at everything combined...OPK, temp chart, CM & CP. The CP is what has actually helped me really pinpoint it...when it's very low and softer to the touch (normally like the tip of your nose, but softer right at O).

[babyblessings]

thanks for helping - feel so silly asking some of these questions

[Yahmama]

thanks for helping - feel so silly asking some of these questions

No prob!! That's why we're all here, to help each other! :)

[Kris217]

Hobber - I wouldn't worry about the spermies, glad dd is ok :)

MFC - I wouldn't worry about the size or changing your ticker. Your little beans size can vary through the whole thing, at 20 wks my guy was a few days behind and is now almost a week ahead. They'll come when they're ready regardless of the date on the chart.

5 - 5dpo and giving up? How come?

yahmama - I'm sure the timing/cut-off will be fine. Keep in mind none of it is proven 100% anyway.

Babyblessings - welcome! 1- for me I'd skip the powder and focus on the HE diet. IG had us all so programed about pH and sups and I'll tell you a lot of us have gotten boys without them. I, for one, had a pH of 5-5.5 and did 1 bsf 30 minutes prior to our attempt. I was only taking a prenatal, fish oil and Vit D. My focus was on diet, I honestly think that is the biggest factor. On the other hand I would avoid any sup that messes with your blood pH, it's cm pH you want to change, and could have sever drug interactions. Just seems a little scary to me. 2- never used an o-scope 3- sorry no info on TT.

Sorry to be so absent lately ladies. I'm having some complications and didn't want to rain on the ttc parade but I really need/miss the support of this thread. Yes the blue crew grads are great but this is a more the merrier type of thing right now.
I found out before x-mas that at 33 wks I was measuring full term. They were nervous that I either had too much fluid or a huge baby so I was sent for an u/s. I had the u/s last week at 35wks and learned that he is about a week ahead with a slightly large head and belly. This isn't a concern but they wanted me to go for another gestational diabetes test. My fluid levels are on the high end of normal but still normal, so far so good right? Wrong, the baby is frank breach (I'll post a pic) and if he can't be turned I'll be having a c-section. Now before anyone argues he could in fact be born vaginally you are right, but the risks outweigh the benefits so we aren't considering it. I'm sure you ladies can understand that we waited so long for and did so much to get this little guy I can't put him in danger because I don't want surgery. Anyway on I've been doing all sorts of things to try and turn him but am sure none of them have worked. I have a doppler and his heartbeat is too high for him to be head down, this will be confirmed on Thursday. If I'm right I'll have an external version next week at 37wks and hope for the best. Anyway that's where we are for now. Here's his position, looks pretty comfy huh
http://img.tapatalk.com/ae17f623-706b-4ba4.jpg

That's how my nephew was born, he suffered complications because his mother didn't want surgery. I think your attitude is great! How bub turns for you though but if not there is a safe way to bring him into the world :)

[babyblessings]

Do you ladies know where I can find a thread on Estrogen wrt a blue sway? Know we have to raise testosterone but not sure what to do about estrogen?

[Cinss]

So, after the OPK not showing even a faint line yesterday, I woke up this am with a temp drop of - .4 and I did an OPK and it definitely had a line...though it was still fainter than the control line, it looks like it'll be tomorrow late or the next morning early that I O. It's been since Friday since we BD, which will be 4 days tonight, when we were going to do our cutoff. I'm worried about doing our cutoff tonight now since it might end up only being a 24-36 hr. cutoff. So, I called hubby at work and asked him if he could release this am. I'm so stressed about the timing now! I can usually predict O SO well to plan timing, but with the chemical last month, it's throwing me off! AAAAHHHHH!

Are you aiming to DTD on O only? Remember you O 6-48 hrs after the first +ve OPK.

[TTC5]

Why?

I'm feeling really moody like I would before the witch comes :(

[Cinss]

Hi Babyblessings, welcome. I also use the saliva microscope and find it extreemly helpful. Try to use if first thing in the morning, before you brush your teeth, eat or drink anything. I do a quick clean with my tounge and swallow a few times first just so the sample is clear. You will notice the sample gradually getting ferns on it and the day you see the most ferning pattern you are ovulating or are just about to. It's good you have a few months up your sleve to test it out, i needed that to figure it out properly. And yes you will know when you have finished because the ferning will be almost completly gone the next day.

[Cinss]

3pink1blue - i hope the little guy turns around for you, it is still possible, but either way you will have your little bundle safely in your arms very very soon. Best of luck for your test on Thursday. xx

[Cinss]

just re-read my post - to clarify...I do know how to use the OPKs to determine that O will happen in next 12 - 48 hours, but I have never been off the pill for any length of time before, and so I don't really know my cycles. I don't know how to determine how soon after OPK shows a smiley, i PERSONALLY actually ovulate. Some ladies seem to be able to pinpoint it - how???

Have you joined the FertilityFriend site? You can enter all of your data in there and it gives you a graph to look at and tells you when you are most fertile. It would be good to track Temps, OPKs, Saliva, CM, and Cervical position to get the most accurate analysis. There is also some very helpful information on that site you can read through.

[Cinss]

I'm feeling really moody like I would before the witch comes :(

Bummer, i definatly got moody before AF arrived this time, but i am still crossing my fingers for you!!!

[Yahmama]

Are you aiming to DTD on O only? Remember you O 6-48 hrs after the first +ve OPK.

Yes, I only want to DTD on O day because I can definitely tell a difference in my pH on O day versus before or after. And I usually O very quickly after a +opk. THat's why I'm worried about the line being there at all today is because it usually looks like this around 2 days before O.

[3Pink1Blue]

Kris - I've heard of many babies having complications from breech delivery. I've also seen pics of babies coming out horribly bruised. Yep so not worth it! No matter what I'll heal and get over it.

Babyblessings - we all asked a ton of questions in the beginning especially when trying to reprogram our brains after IG. There's quite a few long time swayers and a bunch that have gotten it almost figured it out and all of us are happy to help:)

5- I know I've told you this a few times but the month I got my bfp I was positive that AF was on her way. It's not over till it's over, regardless of how grouchy you are lol ;)

Cinss - Thanks hun, fx for smooth cycle and a BFP!!

[Hobbermittens]

Babyblessings:

I would get on Fertility Friend and start tracking your cycles that way. Have you been taking your temps? FF will tell you when you O'ed and I think it is pretty accurate, most of the time.

As far as opks, you can get cheap ones from Amazon (50 tests for 10 dollars) and you test your urine daily (or several times a day if you are obsessive like me!) starting around the time your CM starts to seem fertile. I have a 26-28 day cycle, and I usually O around CD13-14, so I start testing on CD9 or 10. That way you can see it fade in.

WHen people say "cut off" for TTC boy it is different than a "cut off" for TTC girl. For TTC boy, what people are talking about is the ammount of time that DH hold off from releasing. So before your attempt, you want your DH to abstain for 2-4 days if you can so his sperm count will be high. Here's a thread that explains everything:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/5636-frequency-bd-pink-blue.html

[Hobbermittens]

just re-read my post - to clarify...I do know how to use the OPKs to determine that O will happen in next 12 - 48 hours, but I have never been off the pill for any length of time before, and so I don't really know my cycles. I don't know how to determine how soon after OPK shows a smiley, i PERSONALLY actually ovulate. Some ladies seem to be able to pinpoint it - how???
It took me quite a few cycles to figure that out. And Fertility Friend helped a LOT! I still can't pinpoint it, but I have a rough idea now. I have been charting my cycles on FF for 9 months now.

[love being a mummy]

Hi ladies,

I had ultrasound done today when I was suppose to be 10 weeks 5 days according to my ovulation day and I'm only measuring 10W0D ..My OB told me not to worry and nothing was wrong, but I can't help it :worry:
The baby was moving all around, but I am so worried, Any thoughts?

I told her about the NT scan, She said why I want to have a NT scan done? NT scans for specific high risk pregnancies ..I said I want make sure that everything is OK with the baby, I didn't say anything about the nub theory. They will scheduled me for NT scan soon.


I wouldn't be too concerned about 5 days difference.


I'm around 5 dpo but think I am out already :(
:(




Sorry to be so absent lately ladies. I'm having some complications and didn't want to rain on the ttc parade but I really need/miss the support of this thread. Yes the blue crew grads are great but this is a more the merrier type of thing right now.
I found out before x-mas that at 33 wks I was measuring full term. They were nervous that I either had too much fluid or a huge baby so I was sent for an u/s. I had the u/s last week at 35wks and learned that he is about a week ahead with a slightly large head and belly. This isn't a concern but they wanted me to go for another gestational diabetes test. My fluid levels are on the high end of normal but still normal, so far so good right? Wrong, the baby is frank breach (I'll post a pic) and if he can't be turned I'll be having a c-section. Now before anyone argues he could in fact be born vaginally you are right, but the risks outweigh the benefits so we aren't considering it. I'm sure you ladies can understand that we waited so long for and did so much to get this little guy I can't put him in danger because I don't want surgery. Anyway on I've been doing all sorts of things to try and turn him but am sure none of them have worked. I have a doppler and his heartbeat is too high for him to be head down, this will be confirmed on Thursday. If I'm right I'll have an external version next week at 37wks and hope for the best. Anyway that's where we are for now. Here's his position, looks pretty comfy huh
http://img.tapatalk.com/ae17f623-706b-4ba4.jpg

I hope he turns for you, but I think you are doing the right thing if he doesn't turn.

[babyblessings]

Wow, thanks ladies, so kind and helpful!!

Hobbermittens - Going to see if Amazon deliver to where I live, but OPKs here are quite expensive :-( will definitely buy a pack in the month I ttc as an extra resource, but for now, going to have to rely on my microscope (Cinss - so glad to know you have had some success with it! And glad I have a few months to work it all out!). Thanks so much for the cut off explanation and the link too - all gets so confusing so will read through that this evening!

On all this lovely advice, I have registered at FF - great site! Have been charting temps for only this week, but will keep going, checking cervix, and CM each day too - so will see what happens! I am in day 14 of my cycle and still no sign of O! Which is probably how come I have 2 dd! Guessing I have longer cycles than the ave, and did all my calcs on the ave last time! So cutt off completely incorrect!! (was much less clued up;-)

Can anyone fill me in re Estrogen in DH and DW? what are we meant to be doing - raising or lowering it? On IG, I read that we both need to raise T and Est. that the case on GD?

Just a point to note on Atomic's Vit D theory - both my DDs were conceived in mid winter - least amount of natural vit D! And wasnt taking any supps... hmmmm

[SamB]

Hello, i am new here!!

I'm Sam, mum of 2 girls from Scotland. They are Kaidy (6) and Tia (3), we are on our first cycle of TTC and hoping for a boy! I had the mirena removed last week so waiting for my cycle to return and decide what its doing. I have opk's at the ready that i have been taking daily hoping to have some idea when i may ovulate again!! Taking Ferlicare as heard it helps sway blue, trying to up the bananas and tomatos as snacks and hoping to dtd as close to Ov as possible.

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

[LolaInLove]

I'm thinking I might O early this month after my chemical last month. I'm only on cd 11 from when I started spotting with the chemical, but I am already starting to have fertile looking mucus like I get only 2 days before O. My temp is constant still, so maybe I should start my opks today? I usually start them on cd12 bc I normally O on cd16. It's almost like my body is trying to get back where it would have been if I didn't have the chemical? Anyone else have an experience similar to this?

I did....chemicals don't tend to mess you up that much because they are so early, it is almost like you just had a late period. You don't have as much progesterone in your body from the pregnancy progressing longer, so your body bounces back pretty quick. It has been said that fertility is higher after a chemical. I conceived my DD1 a couple of weeks after my 1st one way back in the day! Are you taking opks? I say go for it if you are mentally ready.

[LolaInLove]

I asked this question a little while ago, because i was drinking URAL i thought it was diluting my urine, turns out not to be the case and i did get a +opk a few days later than expected. That was happening a lot over the board, so maybe it is happening to you too. If you are taking supps like EPO or L-arg, they can mess with cycle length.

This is exactly what I was going to say. One month, I was at a music festival in the heat all day so I was drinking a ton of water, and worried that I was diluting my urine and that was causing my opks to not be + but they went + even on the clear pee a couple days later regardless....it was the supps I was taking that caused my O to be a few days later than usual. I would *try* to refrain from drinking a lot for the hour or two before you test, but don't dehydrate yourself or anything.

[LolaInLove]

So, after the OPK not showing even a faint line yesterday, I woke up this am with a temp drop of - .4 and I did an OPK and it definitely had a line...though it was still fainter than the control line, it looks like it'll be tomorrow late or the next morning early that I O. It's been since Friday since we BD, which will be 4 days tonight, when we were going to do our cutoff. I'm worried about doing our cutoff tonight now since it might end up only being a 24-36 hr. cutoff. So, I called hubby at work and asked him if he could release this am. I'm so stressed about the timing now! I can usually predict O SO well to plan timing, but with the chemical last month, it's throwing me off! AAAAHHHHH!

First of all, don't worry about timing. It has been proven to not matter. SERIOUSLY! I would not want my DH to go more than 4-5 days without releasing though, because sperm can deteriorate (they become old and crappy, which is not good). I think you did a good job by telling him to release asap....then you'll have about 48 hours in between, which is great. Really, don't worry about it. If you haven't read the "how we made boys" thread in the ttc boy forum, do so, because it will make you feel a lot better about timing not mattering. TONS of them were from dtd every day even. Good luck!

[LolaInLove]

Yes, I only want to DTD on O day because I can definitely tell a difference in my pH on O day versus before or after. And I usually O very quickly after a +opk. THat's why I'm worried about the line being there at all today is because it usually looks like this around 2 days before O.

Just prepare to ttc for a while...the once method can take a while since you are really going by chance with when you O. If you are younger and ok with that, I say give it a shot.

[LolaInLove]

It took me quite a few cycles to figure that out. And Fertility Friend helped a LOT! I still can't pinpoint it, but I have a rough idea now. I have been charting my cycles on FF for 9 months now.

Good advice! FF is very helpful. I still can't pinpoint mine to the exact minute either, but standard ttc method is to go for it about 12-18 hours after a +opk. Best to do 2 opks a day also, at about 1pm and then like 8pm. I usually do 4 actually, at 1pm, 4pm, and then 8pm. It is usually + as can be by 4pm, so I know that I will be ovulating in the next day, roughly. I get lots of ovary pains, but I can never tell when exactly the egg is being released, which is why I think dtd the night you get a + (if you get a morning +) or the next morning (if you get an evening +) is the best idea for your 1st shot. But also, I really REALLY think timing doesn't matter, so I think it is prudent to go again if you are really wanting to get pregnant and don't freak about the old timing thing.

[LolaInLove]

OK, I have a zillion comments since been working like crazy this week!

HELLO AND WELCOME to Sam and BabyBlessings! You might get dubbed "BB" for short. Sam, sounds like you are ready to go! I haven't heard much about how long it takes the typical cycle to get back into gear after Mirena, but hopefully it is soon! BB, couple of comments above, but glad you ladies are here! Like the others said, do not feel bad for a second asking anything here. We are all here to cheer each other on and help you give your best shot to swaying for a boy. Definitely recommend reading through all of the sticky posts on the ttc boy forum for all the "base" info about swaying. There are a lot of methods and beliefs out there, but I will say that the methods on this site are really based on science and experience....not so much on old IG methods or wives tales. But we are here for ya!

3P1B, I am sorry you are having to deal with Charlie being a stinker already! I think you are right on though....try the inversion, and then if nothing, just have a c-section and think about the silver linings: no worrying about him during a high-risk delivery attempt, no labor and rushes to hospital, and you will look lovely in the photos. I remember my doc telling me that franks breeches don't often turn- not to bum you out- and honestly, as a mom who has had both a c-section and vaginal birth, it's not THAT big of a deal in regards to the experience. Recovery, yes, a bit harder. But if you need a section, don't worry about it. If he is big and frank breech, seems like your 1st decision as a good mama to him is to just do the section and get super pumped about your baby boy's birth.

Kris, buggar about the glucose test! I hope all is well....is Sarah ttc now or are you just waiting for your little lady and putting that on hold?

MFC, I totally agree with everyone- do not worry about the size. I know it is easy to worry when you've had m/c, but all looks well and your doc is not alarmed at all, so that is a good sign that there is no need to worry. And what a cute little wiggler you got there! I love that you saw him/her moving around so much! That is a GREAT sign!

TTC5- girl, don't be feeling bummed yet! When you know you have to potentially ttc for a while, you just have to let go of signs and feelings and being obsessed with it in general....trust me. It's hard to let go of, but you will be much happier when you just live your life and ttc on the side. But you are not out at all....your hormones are clearly working, so who knows, maybe that's a good sign? And I think it is an EXCELLENT idea to investigate suing for damages to cover IVF should you want to do that. With a good lawyer, a hospital will settle on that super quick versus having to deal with negative press and having to pay you millions, kwim? Of course, millions are bad, either, but you will have a shorter, quicker go of it all if you are just asking for the IVF to be covered. That is my 2 cents, at least! (I have a bunch of lawyer friends, obviously.)

Cinss, sorry about AF. Gear up for this month! FX for you!!!

Iluv, good to hear from you! I like the Delphine name as well. Super cute. They are all cute, actually! Carrigan is just adorable, sounds like a strong girl name. How are your others doing? DD2? xxoo

As for moi, we dtd again last night, so ended up 4 times in 3 days, O-1, O and O+1 just to be sure we caught an egg. I am going to test on my bday, which will be 12dpo (the 21st). I had a m/c on my bday last year, so I figure the universe should be cool to me and let me have a bday bfp. (: Best of luck to everyone!!!!

[Yahmama]

Just prepare to ttc for a while...the once method can take a while since you are really going by chance with when you O. If you are younger and ok with that, I say give it a shot.

We got a BFP last month doing it just once on O day, but unfortunately it was a chemical. Hoping to catch it again this month, though! :)

[Yahmama]

I did....chemicals don't tend to mess you up that much because they are so early, it is almost like you just had a late period. You don't have as much progesterone in your body from the pregnancy progressing longer, so your body bounces back pretty quick. It has been said that fertility is higher after a chemical. I conceived my DD1 a couple of weeks after my 1st one way back in the day! Are you taking opks? I say go for it if you are mentally ready.

Yes, started taking OPK's yesterday and a line is showing at the darkness it normally would about 2 days before--thanks for all your encouragement about timing not being a very important factor. Hoping to DTD Thursday, which would be 48 hrs. since his release yesterday morning.

[Yahmama]

Hello, i am new here!!

I'm Sam, mum of 2 girls from Scotland. They are Kaidy (6) and Tia (3), we are on our first cycle of TTC and hoping for a boy! I had the mirena removed last week so waiting for my cycle to return and decide what its doing. I have opk's at the ready that i have been taking daily hoping to have some idea when i may ovulate again!! Taking Ferlicare as heard it helps sway blue, trying to up the bananas and tomatos as snacks and hoping to dtd as close to Ov as possible.

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

I had a friend who conceived the first month after having it removed, so you never know what your body will do! Welcome and GL!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lbam- thanks :)

Babyblessings- I too am a huge believer in vit d. I was diagnosed with a sever deficiency after dd3 and have been taking a supplement ever since, I really believe it made a difference.

Sam- Welcome!! Make sure you read over the high everything diet when upping your food intake. A lot of success has come from nutrient dense foods and very little processed ones. Gl and fx you get your little guy!!

Lola- thanks Hun. I've been tormenting my midwife and reading through the good sites (webmd, americanpregnancy etc.) to get as much info about this as possible. So yes, I know that franks have the least chance of turning and are the hardest to manually turn especially when the baby is bigger. The silver lining is what I'm clinging to, the thought of being able to call the ones flying in and say ok here's the date book your flight is awesome. I've had two middle of the night hospital runs, a leisurely trip would be nice. And if we know the date I can let the kids school/teachers know and just keep them home as opposed to dealing with pulling them out. They want to be at the birth and as much as a c-section won't be the same we still want them there and waiting. I think I'm almost done crying and panicking about it all, it is what it is and getting him here safely is all that matters.
Fx a solid heathy swimmer caught that egg! Fx for the best birthday present ever!

[LolaInLove]

Yes, started taking OPK's yesterday and a line is showing at the darkness it normally would about 2 days before--thanks for all your encouragement about timing not being a very important factor. Hoping to DTD Thursday, which would be 48 hrs. since his release yesterday morning.

Of course!!! I think that is perfect timing, to be honest. And seems like you can track your O like a champ since you got it last time. Hope it happens again and you get a sticky bean this time!

[LolaInLove]

3P1B, I think you have an awesome attitude about it. And that would be way easy for family and the girls to be there. Heck, if you had it scheduled for X date at 8am, the girls could just be in the waiting room with your extended family and come in and see you in like an hour! I hope you are right and I get the best bday gift ever.....so so hope you are right.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - thanks hun, i'm a half full kinda girl, it just took me a little longer to get there this time. I'm sending all my baby dust to you and have my fingers tightly crossed.

Oh I almost forgot. For those that remember my idiot bil and his gf who were having their second girl, well they had her late last night. I haven't heard much more then that but we'll be going to see her tonight. Did I mention her horrible name? Silver Marie. Yup I actually have to utter the words "my niece Silver" (shudders).

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, I hope you get a birthday BFP! That sounds like the best birthday present ever!

3P1B, I have met a Sterling, but never a Silver. Interesting name choice...

Can someone look at my chart? I am pretty sure today is O day, or it could have been yesterday? Not sure, but my temps are wacky! I got a +opk yesterday as well as the day before, and I usually O the day of the - opk (which would be today) but on occasion I O on the second +opk day. Either way, the temps for the past few days are high, BUT i was also sleeping poorly because I had to make sure I was up early enough to prepare for DTD (Do my BSF, had to make DH his coffee, etc) before the kids were up. I was still taking my temp around the regular time, maybe an hour or so early, but that's it. Anyway, I THINK I O'ed but won't know until I see tomorrow's temp. Tell me what y'all think:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, I hope you get a birthday BFP! That sounds like the best birthday present ever!

3P1B, I have met a Sterling, but never a Silver. Interesting name choice...

Can someone look at my chart? I am pretty sure today is O day, or it could have been yesterday? Not sure, but my temps are wacky! I got a +opk yesterday as well as the day before, and I usually O the day of the - opk (which would be today) but on occasion I O on the second +opk day. Either way, the temps for the past few days are high, BUT i was also sleeping poorly because I had to make sure I was up early enough to prepare for DTD (Do my BSF, had to make DH his coffee, etc) before the kids were up. I was still taking my temp around the regular time, maybe an hour or so early, but that's it. Anyway, I THINK I O'ed but won't know until I see tomorrow's temp. Tell me what y'all think:

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465

[Flava]

Hey girls! sorry again I don't read back. I saw the pic from Fab on the page I was stuck lol hey that baby is cute already!!! Look like he is smiling :-)

Lola- I just learned that strawberry stimulates testosterone and sperm activity. So if a man eat a lot he will have more T and better sperms. Tell DH to start eating a lot of it it can only help. Hope he loves it and not allergic lol.

How is everyone else? Im sorry for the bfn's . There was any bfp? Who go it?
Hope everyone get a sticky bfp soon! Let's say on next try !
Im on weight loss and it's sucks Im hungry and lazy to workout lol. so it's going slow.

[Hobbermittens]

How is everyone else? Im sorry for the bfn's . There was any bfp? Who go it?
Hope everyone get a sticky bfp soon! Let's say on next try !
Im on weight loss and it's sucks Im hungry and lazy to workout lol. so it's going slow.

Hey Flava!! We miss you! Are you for sure not trying this cycle? I thought you were possibly going to come back after the Holidays and try one last time?
Weight loss is a pain in the ass. But it feels great once the weight is off. Good luck!!

[Flava]

Hey Flava!! We miss you! Are you for sure not trying this cycle? I thought you were possibly going to come back after the Holidays and try one last time?
Weight loss is a pain in the ass. But it feels great once the weight is off. Good luck!!

No Im not :-( O is already over so that's it. This month sucks the most I wanted a October baby! Hopefully the "no more baby" thing will be easier now...
But on the other hand DD4 is playing more with her big sisters now not waking up every night (but still wakes up some lol) trying to learn to go potty and this thing are nice. Good to have some me time .very little but anyway hehe
Of course i would take a 100% boy , but we all know that's not gonna happen so we are done.
I think DH is happy we don't ttc anymore and I don't want another baby if he don't. So we are done.

[Yahmama]

Can someone look at my chart? I am pretty sure today is O day, or it could have been yesterday? Not sure, but my temps are wacky! I got a +opk yesterday as well as the day before, and I usually O the day of the - opk (which would be today) but on occasion I O on the second +opk day. Either way, the temps for the past few days are high, BUT i was also sleeping poorly because I had to make sure I was up early enough to prepare for DTD (Do my BSF, had to make DH his coffee, etc) before the kids were up. I was still taking my temp around the regular time, maybe an hour or so early, but that's it. Anyway, I THINK I O'ed but won't know until I see tomorrow's temp. Tell me what y'all think:

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/index.php

For some reason I can't view the chart?? Is it possibly because I don't' have a full membership? I use an app on my iPad, so I don't use fertility friend, I have an account, but not membership. Anyway, from what you're saying, if you had 2 days of a +opk I would say today is the day. Did you say it was - today? I wish I could view your chart :/

[babyblessings]

So bummed! Went to doc today as i have not been feeling well for weeks & i've been put onto an antihistamine for 3 days & an antibiotic for a week!!!
I am roughly 2 or 3 days away from O, and this was my first month of proper charting to understand my body more - the tablets are just gonna wreak havoc with my CM etc!! So frustrated!
Any advice? Thought about only starting them once I've O'd!

[Cinss]

So bummed! Went to doc today as i have not been feeling well for weeks & i've been put onto an antihistamine for 3 days & an antibiotic for a week!!!
I am roughly 2 or 3 days away from O, and this was my first month of proper charting to understand my body more - the tablets are just gonna wreak havoc with my CM etc!! So frustrated!
Any advice? Thought about only starting them once I've O'd!

If you are well enough to start your medication after you O, i would do that. And if you are not sure of O or have to take the medication before O i would just suggest using pre seed or EW.

[Cinss]

Lola, I hope you get a birthday BFP! That sounds like the best birthday present ever!

3P1B, I have met a Sterling, but never a Silver. Interesting name choice...

Can someone look at my chart? I am pretty sure today is O day, or it could have been yesterday? Not sure, but my temps are wacky! I got a +opk yesterday as well as the day before, and I usually O the day of the - opk (which would be today) but on occasion I O on the second +opk day. Either way, the temps for the past few days are high, BUT i was also sleeping poorly because I had to make sure I was up early enough to prepare for DTD (Do my BSF, had to make DH his coffee, etc) before the kids were up. I was still taking my temp around the regular time, maybe an hour or so early, but that's it. Anyway, I THINK I O'ed but won't know until I see tomorrow's temp. Tell me what y'all think:

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/index.php

Hey Hobber - this link takes me to my chart, at the top of FF there is a share option, take a look there?

[TTC5]

Hello, i am new here!!

I'm Sam, mum of 2 girls from Scotland. They are Kaidy (6) and Tia (3), we are on our first cycle of TTC and hoping for a boy! I had the mirena removed last week so waiting for my cycle to return and decide what its doing. I have opk's at the ready that i have been taking daily hoping to have some idea when i may ovulate again!! Taking Ferlicare as heard it helps sway blue, trying to up the bananas and tomatos as snacks and hoping to dtd as close to Ov as possible.

Looking forward to getting to know you all.

Welcome!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Hey Hobber - this link takes me to my chart, at the top of FF there is a share option, take a look there?

Ooh, I didn't know that. I fixed it. Thanks!

341465 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465)

[Hobbermittens]

For some reason I can't view the chart?? Is it possibly because I don't' have a full membership? I use an app on my iPad, so I don't use fertility friend, I have an account, but not membership. Anyway, from what you're saying, if you had 2 days of a +opk I would say today is the day. Did you say it was - today? I wish I could view your chart :/

I screwed up the way I posted it. Here's the link, and I will fix it in the original post:
341465 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465)

[Hobbermittens]

So bummed! Went to doc today as i have not been feeling well for weeks & i've been put onto an antihistamine for 3 days & an antibiotic for a week!!!
I am roughly 2 or 3 days away from O, and this was my first month of proper charting to understand my body more - the tablets are just gonna wreak havoc with my CM etc!! So frustrated!
Any advice? Thought about only starting them once I've O'd!

If you need the antihistimine, then you should take it, bt if you can live without it (like if it is mostly just for your comfort) you could always skip it. Antibiotics sway blue, so that isn't a problem!

[Yahmama]

I screwed up the way I posted it. Here's the link, and I will fix it in the original post:
341465 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465)

Well, just by looking at your temps, I would guess you ovulated between cd12&13. I know you said you were up a lot and thought that made your temps higher, but usually I have the same problem being up and down with my youngest, and my temps aren't affected as drastically as yours seem here. I really think you O'd already!

[Cinss]

I screwed up the way I posted it. Here's the link, and I will fix it in the original post:
341465 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/341465)

I would have to say O was most likely on CD12