Uk SMOG Wannabes ~ January

[Lavenderlime]

Inglewood the acidophilus that you were taking was it in a gelatine capsual? I got some stronger ones from H&B but they are in gelatine caps I have just been emptying out the contents but it's such a PITA so have got a bit slack at taking them.

But if I drop or really cut down the cranberry then then I will use acidophilus to get my ph down instead.

Deaks did you drop cranberry for baby asprin?

[homebirthing princess]

morning ladies how is every1 2day?

ive not been online over the wkend as it was ds1 4th bday on saturday so lots of post to catch up on, he was completly spolit and had a fab birthday party with 20 of his little friends. i spent all saturday cooking food and making pirate cupcakes :) heres a pic of them....sorry i was very proud :)

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[Sunset]

hi ladies :)

I'm sorry i'm not around much at the moment, i'm so tired in the evenings i end up going straight to bed after the boys lol i'm so much fun at the moment :p Serena is 2 weeks today and I have now officially started to wean off my blood pressure medication. I've got the health visitor coming out this afternoon to see baby S, been so long since i saw a health visitor i have no idea what to expect from her visit lol
hope you're all doing well! i love catching up on your posts :)

homebirthingprincess ~ love the pictures!!!

Deaks ~ I think that sounds like a good idea! if i was swaying and decided to stop the diet i would still continue with the aci gel/replens at least. are you doing o+12 this month?

Lavenderlime ~ how frustrating for you! but great news it isn't an etopic!!

Inglewood ~ have you bought much pink yet? :)

Indigoviolet ~ happy to hear you're feeling sickly again! nothing more reassuring really is there :p

Zanacal ~ how are you enjoying your pregnancy? have you bought much pink yet?

Maybebaby ~ how are you doing? haven't seen you on here for a while, hows your bp? have you got everything sorted now for your bubs arrival?

Charlieispy ~ how are you managing the school run in this cold weather? i was about to freeze to death this morning, -5c!! brr!!

littlemisswilko ~ how are you? :)

Big waves to everyone else!! :)

[Sunset]

oh and yes, if you wonder why i haven't uploaded any pictures yet it's because my camera has gone missing :( i think it's at my PIL's, hoping so anyway! :)

[deaks66]

Afternoon all!

Nini, i do hope you are in the process of defrosting right now with some heating and hot water!! How on earth people managed years ago i do not know...i think they were probably much hardier than we are now! I tend to get my lh surge cd 16 at the earliest and cd2o at the latest. Much less stressed about things this month (my psoriasis really got me down last month on top of christmas etc) so hoping that will mean i ov on the earlier side...have noticed that tends to happen with me :) Oh and good idea to recalibrate your hanna....mine seems to need doing twice a month. I usually do it a few days after af and then again just before ov. It has always jumped a little.

Lavender, yes i did drop cranberry for a month or two and took baby asperin instead but have started taking cranberry instead this month as noticed my ph was a bit higher last month. Will stop at ov obviously and may start taking a baby asperin every few days at that point instead. I hope it was the cranberry causeing the bleeding for you as that will be easy to rectify. Or even better, perhaps it was ov. Was it hard missing your attempt?

Hi everyone else....do hope all bumps behaving themselves!

X

[deaks66]

Hi sunset, im not surprised you are shattered...you have been through a lot on top of having a new baby to look after. Yes im doing o+12 and probably o+14 or 16 too. Thats seemed to work in october :) Am on a semi diet now.... dont want to be fully on it anyway anymore (a year is enough!) but trying not to eat the real naughties etc. When i ditch o+12 next month, as well as using acigel, would you think sudafed a good idea too? I would think the combination would almost replicate o+12 in some kind of way???

[Sunset]

My mum had two boys that died and she always talked about how much she wanted a son. I think that where my desire for a mixed gender family comes from as it was very much part of my childhood. Luckily my sons will not have experience as I would never talk about it in front of them.

I was actually thinking about this the other day and I think you have a fair point! my mum has always told me how much she wanted me to be a girl and how much she always longed for a daughter and how happy she is she got "her girl" and how she never even thought of a boys name when she was pregnant with me because she was hoping for a girl etc etc and i honestly think the fact that she's always been so open with her gender desire is one of the reasons why i had such a strong gender desire after ds2. it didn't help that hubbys mother always talks openly about her gender disappointment when she had my dh. it was so bad she developed PND and had to send him to stay with other family members for a while and she always jokes about how she wanted him to be a girl.. and i think other people being so open with their feelings contributes sometimes, especially my own mother during my childhood. everyone i've ever been around has had that strong desire for a daughter. I know my great grandmother had 3 boys and she always hoped for a girl, and then my mother has always spoke openly how she hoped i would be a girl and then MIL has never been shy to show her preference for a granddaughter. So yes, it's my mission not to speak about these things in front of my children!!

[Sunset]

Hi sunset, im not surprised you are shattered...you have been through a lot on top of having a new baby to look after. Yes im doing o+12 and probably o+14 or 16 too. Thats seemed to work in october :) Am on a semi diet now.... dont want to be fully on it anyway anymore (a year is enough!) but trying not to eat the real naughties etc. When i ditch o+12 next month, as well as using acigel, would you think sudafed a good idea too? I would think the combination would almost replicate o+12 in some kind of way???

if you are going to bd through ov i definitely think sudafed is a good idea since it will help get rid of some of the ewcm and aci gel will help keep ph low :) I think you've done so well to have been on the diet for a year! you are amazing and so deserve your pink bfp!! :cheer:

[deaks66]

I totally agree sunset. everyone in my family for generations have always had a boy followed by a girl and i definately think thats where my gd comes/came (not sure how i feel at the moment) from. I definately think thats why i was disappointed for several days when i found out ds2 was a boy.... as though he was 'meant' to be a girl because thats what happens in my family. Even my mum commented on how she had the perfect setup... and she is so sweet i know she didnt mean to make me feel bad but its just what everyone in my family has! Obviously i disagreee now. i love having two the same gender! Oh and i will make sure i NEVER make any gender comments to my kids too!

[deaks66]

if you are going to bd through ov i definitely think sudafed is a good idea since it will help get rid of some of the ewcm and aci gel will help keep ph low :) I think you've done so well to have been on the diet for a year! you are amazing and so deserve your pink bfp!! :cheer:

Thanks hun. i read somewhere that a lady was convinced she had concieved a daughter because of the decongestants she had taken for a cold for several weeks.

[charlieispy]

just wanted to say HI not been on much feeling rubbsih still x DH worked all weekend i worked today - headache like hell and feeling like i am getting a cold Nnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

FX for all those trying soon DEAKs it will be you and your sticky BFP i know it x

Nini - hugs for a bad back AND poorly kids :( bad times x

Sunset - hugs for the tiredness x is DH off at all?? Trying to work out paternity leave for us DH only gets statutory so cant afford 2 weeks and last time he took off 1 week pat 1 week hol then worked solid for 6wks only 1 day off a week and it was the school holidays wont make that mistake again!!!

[Lavenderlime]

Charlie hope you manage to fend the cold off.

HBP love your cupcakes they looked fantastic hope your DS had a lovely party, I love baking cupcakes. :)

Deaks your plan sounds great! thanks for the info r.e baby aspirin. not sure may just cut down from 4 cranberry to 3 then see what next AF is like.

Sunset I remember the new baby tiredness. What is it like having three? Is it the same as two or harder?

[deaks66]

Charlie hope you manage to fend the cold off.

HBP love your cupcakes they looked fantastic hope your DS had a lovely party, I love baking cupcakes. :)

Deaks your plan sounds great! thanks for the info r.e baby aspirin. not sure may just cut down from 4 cranberry to 3 then see what next AF is like.

Sunset I remember the new baby tiredness. What is it like having three? Is it the same as two or harder?

Lavender, which cranberry are you taking? i have only ever taken 2 per day as mine are strong ones. Perhaps double check the dosage x

[Kell]

Sorry if I forget people I'm running on empty at the moment,

HomeBirth princess your cupcakes are brilliant! Well done :) I like the end result of baking! Not so sure about the making them part lol I hate the cleaning I know I have to do after!

Sunset so pleased to hear your recovering well if a little tired! Hope you find your camera!

Lavender Actually that's reminded me I need to send a litter to the solicitor, I did hear from Ysl but they wanted me to send the product for them to test, I've been advised against that, it should be independently tested, I've still got very sensitive skin from it, and even now have a red mark under one eye where it was most effected! And this is 4 months on.

Had a day from hell today, got all stressed and ended up crying at my college tutor about it all, I'm having to give up work because it's just way too much pressure along with running a house, caring for two children, being pregnant and college, I feel like I'm not giving my all to anything and am under too much pressure. Plus oh's having to look for a new job, the company have decided to charge for private miles which will mean paying out atleast £400 per month just getting him to and from work everyday as his work is 50+ miles away!

Just need to try and relax, my bp must be sky high today! :(

[Inglewood]

Just a quick "Hi" will catch up better tom ,not been well today. Achy tummy... not sure if it was something I ate??

Lavenderlime, it was Acidophilus - Simply Supplements (http://www.simplysupplements.net/product/71/acidophilus/) I used. Took 4 then 2 a day as ph dropped so low. x

Going to see a car tom, a Honda FRV, about an hour's drive away, hope I feel better....

Hope ur all well ladies.... sorry not reading ur posts in great detail tonight, need my bed... xx

[maybebabythree]

Hi girls.

Bp is creeping ever upwards but what will be will be. It's 86 and I go to hospital at 90. Not too concerned as who knows I might be ok and go over due.

Had my nct class on Saturday and feel so excited now!!! Also feel like I am going explode like a secne from alien! Dave is kicking the life out of me!

Not sure if I said but took ds1 to the 02 last week the Olympic gymnastic trails. He loved it! He is lovely company, love this age.

Lavender I had mid cycle spotting once and found out by chance I have a polyp in my womb. That has too come out after dave pops out. If it keeps on happening might be worth asking for a scan x

[GeCon]

Lavenderlime, it was Acidophilus - Simply Supplements (http://www.simplysupplements.net/product/71/acidophilus/) I used. Took 4 then 2 a day as ph dropped so low.

Did you use both Cranberry and Acidophilus at the same time?

[Lavenderlime]

Thank you Indigo, I've just orderd them it didn't say online if they contain any gelatine but you got your girls using them so i'm not too worried!

Deaks mine are from Tesco the dose is 0ne-four a day, one tab 200mg is 5000.mg of fresh fruit equivalent.
I can't even remember now how much cranberry fruit equivalent your ment to take with IG now. Was I taking too much?

Kell you poor thing you certainly have a lot on. Hope you get to relax soon and yout OH finds a new job closer to home.
I hope you get the YSL thing sorted out. Where would you send it for independant testing?

Thank you Maybe I will def ask for a scan if it persists. They are reluctant to do much about it at the moment as it could be so many things. I've had checks for thyroid levels in the last 8 months or so and sexual health checks because I had erratic AF for a few month lack of rather than frequent. The only thing I haven't had is a smear but no point having one whilst i'm TTC the dr. didn't mention that I should have one either.

Well better pop boys in the bath and get them ready to go to pre-school later.
Hope you all have a lovely day , is it all frosty where you all are? Bring on Summer I say!

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls just pooping on for a catch up! haven't been around over the weekend have been stressy at the moment and just really needed time on the sofa and a bit of tele! :) Sickness has subsided a bit so a bit happy about that! Hope everyone's okay!

sorry for no personals but im still in a bit of a shitty mood! :(

[Babymad]

Hi everyone....

Same here, so sorry no personals but wanted to say hello xx

[charlieispy]

Hi all,

No headache .....she whispers as it may come bite my ass any minute now! I think it being so cold helped clear my nose as that definitely adds to my headaches, also had an amazing nap with ds3

Babymad - been thinking about you x i hope you are ok if you are like me you will be googling and replaying what you may have seen on your scan over and over x x I hope you arent x x sorry you are in a shitty mood - whats up hun?? Much love

LMW - yay for sickness being better BOOooooooooooo to shitty mood x hope you are ok x anything specific x

lavenderlime - yay for getting all your supplements x hope your body sorts itself out soon x I know spotting can be hormonal too x it seems as soon as you want to TTC our bodies seem to go squiffy x hope it is back to normal asap x

INglewood - hope your tummy is not hurting anymore x x could it be ligaments? Hope the car viewing went well was it any good?

Kell- huge hugs x hope you are ok sounds like something needs to give - have you given in your notice yet? FX for OH finding a job x DH is meant to be job hunting he is still wanting to go to USA but nothing has come of it wish he would find a job here - am fed up of him working tuesday to sunday then me working monday! FX you manage to sort things out x x

maybebaby - FX FX FX for your BP staying down x x how is work? When are you working till x hope its not too much longer that might help your BP x x ooooh for baby kicks or battering :S lol your ds1 sounds lovely my eldest is pretty good most of the time he is my little geek i LOVE him for it :D



Sunset - hope you find your camera soon i need to see piccies :D hugs for the tiredness but your status earlier made me smile - too right house of chaos here but looooooove it most of the time ;) she is gorg hun x x

WAVES to all Pinga - hope you are ok x is it the holidays now??

HB - lovely cupcakes x x yum yum x x

Been cooking all day got stew soup pasties and now bread - what to eat first lol x am starving slept through lunch grabbed some soup but need something more!!! DH is out tonight so soon it will be early bath and early bed for the boys....i have a date with sky plus :D
oh and can feel baby am sure of it x like pop corn kernels popping lol :D

[littlemisswilko]

charlieispy - no nothing specific! just feel like crap and just so tired and in a cba mood! keep flipping out with dp for something which is really nothing! for example i sometimes stand behind my dp when hes surfing the internet just to nose what he doing which he doesn't bother about but as soon as he does it to me i just flip out on him and take a great strop with him for watching me! i really know i shouldn't as he's only doing it to be nosy like me but the slightest thing is getting to me. (Reading this back i feel like a complete idiot) lol

[charlieispy]

oh hun x me and DH are arguing more than normal x he keeps not telling me things or changing his mind - just stupid things like he might go watch the footie with a friend one saturday but i wanted to have a family day.....and this weekend my mum is taking me to a spa overnight on sat, sunday he has invited her BF over to watch the footie i got pissed as he didnt ask me first i assumed they would do something sat night when i am away......i am just grumpy x at least we have an excuse ;) oh and the kids have shouty mummy at the mo......v little patience especially come 5.30....DH isnt home till 7 and that last stretch kills me x x hope you feel better soon x

[Sunset]

f i n a l l y (!) found my camera :D i'd put it in the buggy and forgot about it lol
here are a few pictures, but i have to warn you ladies! i look super rough, but then again i have just gone through labour lol :p

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[Sunset]

Littlemisswilko ~ it’s probably just the pregnancy hormones. I hope you feel better soon! ((hugs))

Charlieispy ~ my dh has had 2 weeks paternity leave, only went back to work yesterday. fx the headaches don’t return! And awwww how lovely with little kicks!! Enjoy every minute of it!! :HH:

Deaks ~ interesting. I wonder how big part decongestants play in a sway? I took decongestants daily the week of ov.

Lavenderlime ~ ask me in a few weeks time :p at the moment there’s no routine at all, and it’s total chaos constantly but i love it! It’s getting easier everyday and i think little lady is going to fit right into our daily routine without a problem :)

Kell ~ you sound stressed hun :( sending you a virtual hug! It’s not easy being pregnant and looking after 2 little ones so i can’t imagine what it must be like to work on top of that and do college as well.. it’s alot! Hope you feel better soon x

Inglewood ~ hope your tummy feels better soon! And good luck with the car viewing, how exciting!

Maybebaby ~ I love your positive attitude! Fx your bp doesn’t go above 90 so you don’t have to go into hospital!! Keep us posted! 32 weeks, you haven’t got long left to go now :)

Babymad ~ hi hun, how are you feeling these days? Has the morning sickness eased off?

[charlieispy]

gorgeous photos hun you look amazing for just giving birth!!!

yay for finding your camera x x

[Inglewood]

Did you use both Cranberry and Acidophilus at the same time?

Yes I did, only 1 cranberry tab a day. x

[Inglewood]

Sunset, lovely pics!! Thanks for sharing them with us! xx

Charlie, hope dh behaves himself soon. That's the last thing u need.

Maybe, take care, hope Bp does creep up anymore.

Deaks, I couldn't take the decongestants, made me so blocked up I couldn't sleep right and dh was going off his head with my snoring!! lol

Well, Car was a disaster!! They didn't bother to tell us about 3 kinna major prob's with it and although they said the would be fixed, it put us off! We drove 50 miles for nowt! Went to another garage we saw the same car, about 40 miles away again and the car was sold!!!!!! We tried calling them before we went but no answer, so we thought we'd chance it! Damn, a wasted day!!!! Felt alot better today, maybe a wee bug yest?? Spd getting worse, buut otherwise ok.

However, tomorrow is MY 4D SCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Taking boys sledging (well, Dh is, I get to watch and take pics) then to scan, to choose a prez for each baby them for tea some place nice. And they have NO idea!! Can't wait to see their wee faces tom, gonna keep each thing a surprise, keep them guessing what we're up to. Had to hand in a sneaky note to teachers about absence... so excited for them!!! and me to have more reassurance!!

Hope ur all well? Will be home late, but will post some pics and fill you in when I am home.

xx:)xx

[Sunset]

Aww inglewood how exciting! I'll be thinking of you tomorrow! Can't wait to see the 4D pics of your girls :D :D

[charlieispy]

Inglewood x sorry bout the car. but tomorrow sounds amazing!!!!!! I thought of you even watching the 15 kids programme there was a shot of twin girls wrapped in pink. sleeping. next to each other heart melting!! Have a fantastic day x am sure they are pink :)

[homebirthing princess]

Awwwww sunset I love your pics, she is a beaut and FYI you did not look rough hun xx

Inglewood......eeeeek 4d scan how exciting!! Enjoy it hun and I hope the boys love it to! X

Charlie, hope your headache stays away!

LMW.....sorry to hear your feeling down at the moment....pregnancy really does play havoc wiv our emotions doesn't it xx

Sorry no more personals I cannie keep up wiv every1 lol :)

Enjoy your days ladies xx

[Kell]

Awwww sunset the pictures were definatly worth the wait! What a beautiful little girl!! And your boys are soo cute too! I get they love being big brothers! You look pretty darn good for just having a baby and being so ill!

Imglewood, so excited for your lovely day out! Have a fab time :)

[littlemisswilko]

what wonderful pics sunset! absolutely gorge!!!!

[littlemisswilko]

how exciting inglewood! carnt you be my mummy! thats sounds great! bless your boys! there gunna be so excited! hope you have a great day and carnt waiti to see some pics

[Lavenderlime]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeerghh worst cold woke up to do the school run and boys have it too so phew so get to keep DC1 off pre-school and have a lazy morning. If we hadn't run out of kitten food I wouldn't leave the house today.

Sunset gorgeous pictures what a beautiful family you have!

Inglewood, bummer about the car but today sounds fab! What a great way to treat the boys and make them feel special about their new siblings!

Charlie I don't know where you get your energy from with all your cooking and baking. Glad the headache has eased off.

LMW if i'm over-tired I have irrational flip outs at DP lol. Hope you feel more like your normal self soon and hormones ease off.

Morning to everyone else.
x

[chocolate]

Inglewood, enjoy your scan and the rest of the day, sounds fab! Sunset, gorgeous little girl, well done!

[indigoviolet]

Sunset- such lovely pics, thanks for sharing :HH: she is just gorgeous

Inglewood, hope you have a great day, sounds amazing. Hope you have a great time at the scan.

Charlie- sounds just like me, very shouty by 5.30, i have no patience left....I forgot about the hormones, I'm glad to have an excuse now! hope you are having a better day hon.

My tummy has totally popped out, it is so embarrassing especially since I havn't told anyone I'm pg yet. I really want to wait until the scan as I am still nervous. Although good news is that I'm still feeling pretty sicky again. Got my dopler yesterday but no luck finding the heartbeat. I know it is early days, will try again in a day or so. Any tips?

hello to everyone else :)

[charlieispy]

indigo - try right down by your pubic bone and angle it downwards towards your lady bits x use lots of gel and do it when you havnt peed for a while and you have 10mins to wiggle it round and not get disturbed x x FX

inglewood - todays the day :D :D :D

AND feeling baby for sure now omg in love already x x

[charlieispy]

squee avocado!

[deaks66]

Thank you Indigo, I've just orderd them it didn't say online if they contain any gelatine but you got your girls using them so i'm not too worried!

Deaks mine are from Tesco the dose is 0ne-four a day, one tab 200mg is 5000.mg of fresh fruit equivalent.
I can't even remember now how much cranberry fruit equivalent your ment to take with IG now. Was I taking too much?


Hi lavender, has the bleeding stopped? there are no geletin in those acidiohilus as i ordered the same ones as inglewood :)
Also IG states 1500-10000 fresh fruit equivalent of cranberry supps so if you are taking 5000 x 4 you may be taking to much though i have noticed i am taking the same amount and i dont have any problems...but then we are all different so perhaps drop down to 2 per day?

sunset how many were you taking as you were taking the same brand as me?

[deaks66]

Gosh so much to catch up on in just one day or so! We have had some poorlyness in our household so struggled to get on propery yesterday.

Feeling sorry for all you ladies either feeling yucky or stressed. Babymad, Kell and littlemiss i hope things improve very soon!

Maybe hows your Bp??

Sunset, omg such gorgeous pics...you look amazing and little serena is just gorg!!! Oh and think i might take decongestants daily...did you go the zyrtec or sudafed route? If so just one per day?

Inglewood, not sure what time your scan was but im so excited for you and hope you can post some pics! Jealous that you guys are able to go sledging (well your boys anyway!)

Charlie, glad the headache has subsided! Loving the popcorn baby kicks!

My ph is 3.8. Think i may have to relax some supps but then i dont know, perhaps its a good thing its this low now as i could bd through ov or at least not be so worried about timing.

Inglewood how quickly did your ph increase when you went from 3 to 2 acidiphilus? and how much did it increase by?

Getting excited about next weeks attempt. Not bothering to do opks early or stick them down on paper.... all a bit rediculous after a yerar of doing it. Not taking temp daily either and feeling much more normal again.

Much love to you all X

[auroara78]

Inglewood, excited to hear about your 4D scan today!

Charlie, amazing to feel baby kick...avacodo, how cute!

Sunset, the pics were amazing to look at !!! You look good hunny for just givin birth...and your two sons...omg how adorable are they??? They get to be awesome big brothers! Love it...and Serena is just precious!

sorry to anyone else that I missed :( I got preggy brain already.

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks Bleeding has stopped now so I would say it was 3.5 days of spotting altogether. So not long enough to be an early period I don't think and didn't get heavy at all but enough to need a panty liner. FX it was Ovulation spotting and nothing to worry about.

I like your layed back approach this month. With a PH that low and antihistamines I would def BD through OV but I'm not a great believer in timing or it would be really easy to get yur DG if it was just that simple. I have to say it was nice not using OPK's this month.

Great news about no gelatine in the sups and looks like they have worked for you too with such a great PH!

[maybebabythree]

Hi all I am 33 weeks tomorrow it has gone so fast! Bp is ok but starting to swell up a bit now.

Sunset love your photos! You do look young!

Deeks fx this is your last month of swaying!

Charlie if I get off the sofa it's a good day, never mind baking!

My dh is being a saint at the moment. Really looking after me and found us a cleaner. Hopefully she will come next week but oh the shame of her seeing our pig sty lifestyle! I feel really lucky as he is sweet and kind and a great dad, just wish he had some money sense too!

I am still working up to 38 weeks! Making lots of mistakes now and slowing down in productivity. Good job I'm not a brain surgoen!

Indigo you still look modal thin to me! I'm sure the slimmer you are the sooner you show so it's all really good news baby is growing more.

Inglewood I am hankering after a new car but will resist. I have a zafria but it's old now so the middle seat has a lap belt so I don't like using that one. My childminder has a grand voyager which looks great. Oh for a two seater sports car!

[deaks66]

Deaks Bleeding has stopped now so I would say it was 3.5 days of spotting altogether. So not long enough to be an early period I don't think and didn't get heavy at all but enough to need a panty liner. FX it was Ovulation spotting and nothing to worry about.

I like your layed back approach this month. With a PH that low and antihistamines I would def BD through OV but I'm not a great believer in timing or it would be really easy to get yur DG if it was just that simple. I have to say it was nice not using OPK's this month.

Great news about no gelatine in the sups and looks like they have worked for you too with such a great PH!

Oh im so glad the bleeding has stopped! Have you been temping? has there been a rise to show that ov has definately taken place?

Im still not sure about bding through ov...think i will stick to o+12 this month as planned and then maybe next month...eek! But if ph stays low, at least i wont have to fret about doing it slightly to early :)

[indigoviolet]

Indigo you still look modal thin to me! I'm sure the slimmer you are the sooner you show so it's all really good news baby is growing more.

thanks hon, I guess it is good but I do really feel enormous and one of my running friends (who is used to seeing me in lycra (!) did guess yesterday based on my hugeness....I wouldn't mind but I'm so scared of telling people before I know all is OK at the 12 week scan.

Praying your bp stays at a sensible level. I'm so impressed at how long you are working, really takes some effort to keep going so long. Great that your DH is being super dad/husband at the mo, just what you need, long may he keep it up! see you soon :HH:

[indigoviolet]

Deaks, sounds like a good plan not taking temps etc, being relaxed definitely helped me get pg this time (with ds2 took Sooooo long as I was just too obsessed). hope this is your last attempt FX FX!!!

[Inglewood]

Hi all, what an exhausting day!

Didn't get sledging :( since the schools aren't off it was closed till tea time.....gutted for them (thankffully they didn't know). So we went to a HUGE crazy golf place and they LOVED it!! Followed by Burger King where we told them about the scan! They we so excited! Went to the scan and she said straight away twin 2 was a GIRL! she was lying on top of twin 1!! lol who was squashed into my placenta (poor wee soul). She then said both GIRLS!!!!! and we got an 8min dvd, Cd of pics, and 2 colour A4 pics, one of each baby. Although twin 1 was covering her face with her arm alot. Dh wasn't impressed to part with £122 for what we saw (only in 20mins) but I got my better comfirmation of GIRLS and the boys loved it, so to me it was worth it!! She said they look healthy and I will post the pics from the CD tomorrow as I'm knackered!

After the scan the boys choose a mini build a bear for them and an outfit, they choose some games etc with their xmas money,then out for Dinner! So a wonderful day!

Sorry this is an all about my day post, but really need to get boys school stuff ready then off to bed.....

Will catch up tom and hope ur all well? xx

[Kell]

Awww inglewood what a brillian day you all had! So glad you got a definate girl answer! :)

[zanacal]

Hi everyone - just jumping back in as I've been poorly with a sickness bug. I've managed to catch one each pregnancy and thought I'd got away with it this time but no, it was awful and I've never been so sick - and DH wasn't here so the boys had to pretty much look after themselves!! Feeling more normal today, just left with a cough which is very painful because I've pulled all my tummy muscles! Nice quiet day at home with DS3 methinks :D

[Inglewood]

Z, take care! Think we are much more likely to catch nasty bugs when pg, take it easy and hope ur better soon! xx

[Inglewood]

Morning!!

Deaks, glad ur feeling a better about attempt and things are going well? Is it this weekend ur attempt? or beg next wk?

Lavender, so glad the bleeding has stopped! Had u take the same cranberry strength before?? I had to half my initial dose due to low ph, but worth keeping an eye on. x

Indigo, wish i could fit into lycra!! Even pre-pg! Good for you runnning, last time I went on a 'running' spree I was off work for 6wks with sciatica and had to get intensive pysiotherapy, lost alot of weight running, but never again! You must be chuffed to see ur wee bump coming on...reassuring!

Hello to everyone else!!! :)

Ok what do u ladies think.....names for the :twins: Aubergines today!!!

We have decided to call the Girls Ruby and Amber. (I loved Ruby, which is a precious stone and Dh likes Amber also being a precious stone, so they seem to match well).

[Lavenderlime]

Inglewood love, love the name Ruby had it on the list for ds2. Amber is also beautiful and I don't know any Ruby or Ambers in RL (appart from childhood friends). Have you told everyone the babies are girls now? I bet everyone was really excited for you!

I've been taking the same brand of cranberry since Oct and the same dose....

Zanacal you poor thing. I've never had a sickness bug must be awful, hope your feelling better have a lovely Sofa day with ds3.

Deaks no I didn't temp this month or use OPK's as wasn't TTC so just wanted a month off so no real clue when I ovulated I would have thought between Cd 12-16 I guess i'll gave a better idea when AF arrives next week. I also read that mid cyle bleeding can be a sign of not ovulating.... I hope not.

Got the worst cold full blown cotton wool head, headaches, running nose, sneezing the lot. DP had a cold too but I have it about 10 fold and it's lasting twice as long and the boys haven't got one at all?! It's normally the other way around. lol

[zanacal]

Aah, Inglewood, they're such sweet names! I have a neice called Ruby (and it was on my list before I did!) and we've considered Amber in the past too :D How will you decide which you call which - does the first one out get one name and the second the other?!

Thanks for the get well wishes. Yesterday the baby was so active and it was really reassuring but she was going really crazy - then it occured to me that it was probably the lucozade having that effect!!

[homebirthing princess]

inglewood......those r 2 beautiful names hun!!!! they go perfectly 2gether :) xx

[zanacal]

Get well soon Lavender!

Inglewood - photos?!!

Did I say I booked a 4D scan too? 25th Feb and I can't wait!

[Babymad]

Hi all,

No headache .....she whispers as it may come bite my ass any minute now! I think it being so cold helped clear my nose as that definitely adds to my headaches, also had an amazing nap with ds3

Babymad - been thinking about you x i hope you are ok if you are like me you will be googling and replaying what you may have seen on your scan over and over x x I hope you arent x x sorry you are in a shitty mood - whats up hun?? Much love

LMW - yay for sickness being better BOOooooooooooo to shitty mood x hope you are ok x anything specific x

lavenderlime - yay for getting all your supplements x hope your body sorts itself out soon x I know spotting can be hormonal too x it seems as soon as you want to TTC our bodies seem to go squiffy x hope it is back to normal asap x

INglewood - hope your tummy is not hurting anymore x x could it be ligaments? Hope the car viewing went well was it any good?

Kell- huge hugs x hope you are ok sounds like something needs to give - have you given in your notice yet? FX for OH finding a job x DH is meant to be job hunting he is still wanting to go to USA but nothing has come of it wish he would find a job here - am fed up of him working tuesday to sunday then me working monday! FX you manage to sort things out x x

maybebaby - FX FX FX for your BP staying down x x how is work? When are you working till x hope its not too much longer that might help your BP x x ooooh for baby kicks or battering :S lol your ds1 sounds lovely my eldest is pretty good most of the time he is my little geek i LOVE him for it :D



Sunset - hope you find your camera soon i need to see piccies :D hugs for the tiredness but your status earlier made me smile - too right house of chaos here but looooooove it most of the time ;) she is gorg hun x x

WAVES to all Pinga - hope you are ok x is it the holidays now??

HB - lovely cupcakes x x yum yum x x

Been cooking all day got stew soup pasties and now bread - what to eat first lol x am starving slept through lunch grabbed some soup but need something more!!! DH is out tonight so soon it will be early bath and early bed for the boys....i have a date with sky plus :D
oh and can feel baby am sure of it x like pop corn kernels popping lol :D

Thanks hun xx Feeling a bit better today. I have just been feeling down about bubs being a boy.... :( I needed a few days without being online before they carted me off in a white coat!!
This is the end of the line for our dream of having a DD and its very hard to think I will more than likely have to accept NEVER having a DD, I just don't know where to start......
Our journey has been a long one with lots of heart ache a long the way so I am pleased that my family is now complete but the sadness and longing never get any easier, how do you live with that forever, the last 8 years has been hard enough :( I just wish I didn't feel the way I do...how many times can you grieve for the DD that never was/ or was taken from you
Sorry didn't mean to off load my waffle onto you.
How are you doing? Great that you have felt baby kicking.....its lovely :) xx

[Babymad]

Littlemisswilko ~ it’s probably just the pregnancy hormones. I hope you feel better soon! ((hugs))

Charlieispy ~ my dh has had 2 weeks paternity leave, only went back to work yesterday. fx the headaches don’t return! And awwww how lovely with little kicks!! Enjoy every minute of it!! :HH:

Deaks ~ interesting. I wonder how big part decongestants play in a sway? I took decongestants daily the week of ov.

Lavenderlime ~ ask me in a few weeks time :p at the moment there’s no routine at all, and it’s total chaos constantly but i love it! It’s getting easier everyday and i think little lady is going to fit right into our daily routine without a problem :)

Kell ~ you sound stressed hun :( sending you a virtual hug! It’s not easy being pregnant and looking after 2 little ones so i can’t imagine what it must be like to work on top of that and do college as well.. it’s alot! Hope you feel better soon x

Inglewood ~ hope your tummy feels better soon! And good luck with the car viewing, how exciting!

Maybebaby ~ I love your positive attitude! Fx your bp doesn’t go above 90 so you don’t have to go into hospital!! Keep us posted! 32 weeks, you haven’t got long left to go now :)

Babymad ~ hi hun, how are you feeling these days? Has the morning sickness eased off?

Beautiful pics sunset! :) How are the boys enjoying their sister?
I have stopped being sick now which is great, still don't feel great most days and very tired with being anaemic but defo better than I was xx

[Babymad]

Gosh so much to catch up on in just one day or so! We have had some poorlyness in our household so struggled to get on propery yesterday.

Feeling sorry for all you ladies either feeling yucky or stressed. Babymad, Kell and littlemiss i hope things improve very soon!

Maybe hows your Bp??

Sunset, omg such gorgeous pics...you look amazing and little serena is just gorg!!! Oh and think i might take decongestants daily...did you go the zyrtec or sudafed route? If so just one per day?

Inglewood, not sure what time your scan was but im so excited for you and hope you can post some pics! Jealous that you guys are able to go sledging (well your boys anyway!)

Charlie, glad the headache has subsided! Loving the popcorn baby kicks!

My ph is 3.8. Think i may have to relax some supps but then i dont know, perhaps its a good thing its this low now as i could bd through ov or at least not be so worried about timing.

Inglewood how quickly did your ph increase when you went from 3 to 2 acidiphilus? and how much did it increase by?

Getting excited about next weeks attempt. Not bothering to do opks early or stick them down on paper.... all a bit rediculous after a yerar of doing it. Not taking temp daily either and feeling much more normal again.

Much love to you all X

Great PH Deaks :)
GL with your attempt! x

[Babymad]

Hi all, what an exhausting day!

Didn't get sledging :( since the schools aren't off it was closed till tea time.....gutted for them (thankffully they didn't know). So we went to a HUGE crazy golf place and they LOVED it!! Followed by Burger King where we told them about the scan! They we so excited! Went to the scan and she said straight away twin 2 was a GIRL! she was lying on top of twin 1!! lol who was squashed into my placenta (poor wee soul). She then said both GIRLS!!!!! and we got an 8min dvd, Cd of pics, and 2 colour A4 pics, one of each baby. Although twin 1 was covering her face with her arm alot. Dh wasn't impressed to part with £122 for what we saw (only in 20mins) but I got my better comfirmation of GIRLS and the boys loved it, so to me it was worth it!! She said they look healthy and I will post the pics from the CD tomorrow as I'm knackered!

After the scan the boys choose a mini build a bear for them and an outfit, they choose some games etc with their xmas money,then out for Dinner! So a wonderful day!

Sorry this is an all about my day post, but really need to get boys school stuff ready then off to bed.....

Will catch up tom and hope ur all well? xx

Sounds like a perfect day hun - so pleased all went well at the scan and the boys must be made up to be having two sisters to look after :) xx Cant wait to see pics x

[Babymad]

Morning!!

Deaks, glad ur feeling a better about attempt and things are going well? Is it this weekend ur attempt? or beg next wk?

Lavender, so glad the bleeding has stopped! Had u take the same cranberry strength before?? I had to half my initial dose due to low ph, but worth keeping an eye on. x

Indigo, wish i could fit into lycra!! Even pre-pg! Good for you runnning, last time I went on a 'running' spree I was off work for 6wks with sciatica and had to get intensive pysiotherapy, lost alot of weight running, but never again! You must be chuffed to see ur wee bump coming on...reassuring!

Hello to everyone else!!! :)

Ok what do u ladies think.....names for the :twins: Aubergines today!!!

We have decided to call the Girls Ruby and Amber. (I loved Ruby, which is a precious stone and Dh likes Amber also being a precious stone, so they seem to match well).

Beautiful names for the Aubergines :) I love them both xx

[Lavenderlime]

Thanks hun xx Feeling a bit better today. I have just been feeling down about bubs being a boy.... :( I needed a few days without being online before they carted me off in a white coat!!
This is the end of the line for our dream of having a DD and its very hard to think I will more than likely have to accept NEVER having a DD, I just don't know where to start......
Our journey has been a long one with lots of heart ache a long the way so I am pleased that my family is now complete but the sadness and longing never get any easier, how do you live with that forever, the last 8 years has been hard enough :( I just wish I didn't feel the way I do...how many times can you grieve for the DD that never was/ or was taken from you
Sorry didn't mean to off load my waffle onto you.
How are you doing? Great that you have felt baby kicking.....its lovely :) xx


Baby mad the specualtion seems to be really upsetting you. Please consider getting a sexing scan because you may have your dd growing in your belly and all this heartache could be put to a stop. If it is a DS you will know for sure and can focus on names and outfits and positive things. hugs hon x

[pinga]

Inglewood – ruby and amber are great names and go together really well.

Sunset – fantastic piccies. You look great! And bless Serena is gorgeous… I love newborns! They are just so magical.

Deaks – relaxing all the opking and temping will make this next attempt so much more enjoyable. Relaxing is good. With DS1 and DS2 I fell pregnant during/after a holiday… so relaxing must help! Fingers crossed it will lead to your BFP…

Zanacal – hope you feel better soon!

Babymad - I agree with Lavender - maybe finding out will help. I have been feeling stressed out that this baby is a boy. I am finding out in 2 weeks. After all my nub guesses being boy I have decided it is a boy and I was really down for a while. I then spent some time discussing boys names with DH and I have to say... I started to feel much brighter. I know I still haven't come to terms with the idea of never having a girl but I will deal with that in the future...

Well I had my first appointment at the hospital. Seen the midwife once but saw the doc today. I like my doctor – a good looking and very friendly man  Ended up being at the hospital for 4 hours! Thank god its holidays and the boys were at home with DH. First the doc wanted to do a smear. Then he organised a blood test and a 24 urine test (I have an ongoing kidney prob)… more waiting. Then he wants to do 2 weekly scans until 24 weeks. I had surgery on my cervix and as DS1 was a 35weeker he wants to watch me. So I had to hang about and get squeezed in for a cervical length scan today… more waiting. I DESPERATELY wanted to ask what the gender is… but couldn’t really as I was being squeezed in and she was super fast! Ahhh just another 2 weeks of waiting!!!! I have another piccie of bub though :D All these extra appointments with the boys will be so much fun!!!

Anyways – we’re off camping at the beach on Saturday so I’ll be off here for a few days.

Good luck to any attempters!!!

[Babymad]

Hi everyone,

Indigo ~ When is your 12 week scan?

Maybe ~ Cant believe you will have a baby soon - very exciting :)

Anyone attempting soon a part from Deaks? GL x

Its horrible day here...raining and windy. Just about to put the wood burner on :)

[Inglewood]

Babymad, sorry to hear ur feeling down. The others may be right about the scan? That's why I had to know, as waiting till they came would of cracked me up inside and Dh would of been close to killing me! He admitted he couldn't of lived with my emotions if we didn't know. I wish there was something I could say to help, but you will know the right thing to do, waiting or not. :) HUGS xx

Pinga, I've had alot of treatment on my cervix over the years, very unpleasant and hence why I can't give birth vaginally!
Enjoy ur camping and 2 wks is not long till u know! x Yeah for ur sweet potato!!!! Thought my pg was zooming fast, they all seem to be!

Lavender, might not be the cranberry then? but might be worth thinking about, do u take aspirin too? We don't know any Ruby's or Amber's either, so hoping till April no-one has a baby locally that we know with those names!

Z, Wow! 25th Feb, my mum's b'day, so won't forget, so exciting!!! trying to upload 4d pics to my photobucket with no joy! Won't give up!!! We have decided as we choose the name Ruby 1st, whatever baby comes out 1st gets Ruby! 2nd baby Amber. The boys choose lovely wee mini build a bears for them, ds not too enthusiastic to be putting the wee dress he choose on the bear, typical 9yr old boy!! but ds2 was loving it!!!! he'll be playing with dolls for sure!!

We have told family and friends now, but haven't FB it yet, my mum wants to get a hold of a few people before then, so I will do it eventually! Everyone so happy for us, it's lovely. The shock of 2 babies was alot for us both to take in and still is, but abit easier to take in knowing it's girls. Esp with them being identical twins, either boys or girls would of been a new experience for us, but I do feel very lucky, although won't 100% let myself believe it till they are here in my arms.

[littlemisswilko]

Inglewood! so pleased the ascan went so well and your boys had an amazing day! i absolutely love the name Amber i have always loved it! My mams family dog which sadly passed away a few month ago was called Amber. but i love it for a girl! I dont know anyone with that name round here but there is alot of Rubys but all the same they are both beautiful names!

[Inglewood]

Thanks LMW! luckily there are NO Ruby's around here at all, so kinna glad and hoping it stays that way till April! I do know of 1 Amber, but it's friend thru another friend kinna thing, so Fx it doesn't get used either.

[littlemisswilko]

i also agree with the girls Babymad, that you should maby think about going for a sexing scan. just to put yourself at ease with the whole situation instead of obsessing over it! i thought the way petal went around it and had a sexing scan without her dh knowing was definitely a good idea and one i have started to think about. i dont know how im going to react when im told and really dont know if id be able to cope with my emotions as well as my dp at the same time if this one is a boy. Maby if i knew first then i could get over it in time before my dp knew IYKWIM. I will come to that stage when the time comes. who knows what i will decide

[charlieispy]

Babymad - thought that was the case.....time away but also time to grieve - although you dont know for sure your dream is over yet....is that harder?? I dont know x All i know is I think i will be joining you I know potty shots arent great at 13wks but am sure this is a little boy too. I keep dreaming i give birth to a girl then I wake up and remind myself to stop. I hope that although it will be my last baby and it will kill me to know I will NEVER have a a girl that knowing i will have no more will stop the wondering.....not the desire for a girl but the what ifs. I will never have more than 4 kids so I will have to focus on what i do have. Sorry for waffling I just want to give you a big hug I think back to my 20wk scan with ds3 and how my world collapsed. I have everything crossed that you have a little princess in your belly and we both know even through all the pain of if we have boys we will love them so so much it just still hurts. Here if you need me hun x

[charlieispy]

waves to all will catch up later the headache is back....:( inglewood cannie wait to see piccies x x love the names BTW thinking they are just perfec' :D

[deaks66]

Hi all
Oh babymad i really truly feel for you. Im not sure what else i can add that charlie hasnt already said but i am thinking of you. I still think there is a great chance that there is a girl in there (i was sure of it from your 12 week scan pic) but i know if and when a fourth boy comes along, he will be an amazing final addition to your family. I have been going out of my way lately to find all the pro's to having boys over girls and the more i think about it, the more i have been getting my head around my gd. In fact when i go out now, instead of looking at all the little girls wishing i had one, i have almost trained my brain to look at the reasons why i wouldnt want one. It seems to be working! Plus there is something undeniably cute about seeing a mum surrounded by little boys!! X

[deaks66]

Inglewood, what a lovely family day out you had! I love days like that.

[Kell]

Inglewood I love the girls names! Beautiful!

Babymad I'm sorry you feel so low, I wish I could help but we all know how your feeling, I try not to let myself think it's a boy because I'm not sure how I'll feel of it is, of course he would be loved but you know it's a scary though! I couldn't stay team green I'd need to know either way to either celebrate or get my head around things!

Deaks good luck with your sway this month!

Not much going on here, just plopping away, I should be cleaning as I'm finally at home for more than 5 seconds but all I want to do is sit on my arse and do nothing! :) so that's what I'm doing!
Just watched 15 kids and counting wow that's alot of kids!

[deaks66]

Morning!!

Deaks, glad ur feeling a better about attempt and things are going well? Is it this weekend ur attempt? or beg next wk?


Not entirely sure when my attempt is but should be sometime between monday and friday next week. Hoping that by putting it to the back of my mind as much as possible, ov will happen at the earliest time! Cant wait!

[chocolate]

Hi everyone, finally feeling human again, felt awful last week though pregnancy was going to be a bitch to me this time, was exhausted and aching and couldnt keep going. Then OH rang to say he is aching and can only work an hour then feels awful for an hour, aching too, exactly like I was so think its a virus as feel more energetic now thankfully!

Babymad sorry your feeling a bit down, hope you find some positive thinking soon, so hard!

Inglewood, love your name choices! Not sure Ill ever think about girl names unless I had a girl in my arms, dont want to go down that route really as think it may make the desire worse for a girl.

Hope everyone else is good,will catch up soon!

[Inglewood]

My 4d scan, pic's aren't as good as hoped, esp since twin 2 was hogging the camera by squashing the other into my placenta!

Twin 1- http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/inglewood2007/TWINS_9.jpg
Twin 2- http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/inglewood2007/TWINS_6.jpg

[littlemisswilko]

aww how beautiful inglewood! so sweet!

[Sunset]

Babymad - thought that was the case.....time away but also time to grieve - although you dont know for sure your dream is over yet....is that harder?? I dont know x All i know is I think i will be joining you I know potty shots arent great at 13wks but am sure this is a little boy too. I keep dreaming i give birth to a girl then I wake up and remind myself to stop. I hope that although it will be my last baby and it will kill me to know I will NEVER have a a girl that knowing i will have no more will stop the wondering.....not the desire for a girl but the what ifs. I will never have more than 4 kids so I will have to focus on what i do have. Sorry for waffling I just want to give you a big hug I think back to my 20wk scan with ds3 and how my world collapsed. I have everything crossed that you have a little princess in your belly and we both know even through all the pain of if we have boys we will love them so so much it just still hurts. Here if you need me hun x

oh charlieispy, your post made me shed a little tear!! I hate GD, it is such a monster and it is so unfair that not everyone gets their DG and that there are so many people out there who go through what we all go through but without the great support we have from each other. I really pray and hope you and Babymad both have little girls cooking!! or let me correct that, I hope ALL the pregnant smog ladies have lil girls cooking!!!!! No one should have to face the end of a dream!

[Sunset]

Inglewood I LOVE your 4D pictures!!! how amazingly cute your girls are :D :D and lovely names too!! I don't know any Ruby or Amber so to me they sound very unique which I love!! awww i'm so excited to get to be a part of your swaying, ttc and pregnancy journey :)

[Sunset]

Plus there is something undeniably cute about seeing a mum surrounded by little boys!! X

:agree:

[Sunset]

Chocolate ~ Glad to hear you are feeling better! I was like you too, never allowed myself to think of a girls name until i was told i was carrying a girl.

Babymad ~ Only you know what’s right for you should you find out or not... it’s a hard decision but i do agree with the other girls when they say it sounds like not knowing is making you very unhappy. I pray you’re having a little girl, because you definitely deserve to hold a little girl in your arms after what you’ve been through!!!

Deaks ~ good luck next week! :)

Kell ~ i’ve recorded it! Was it good?

Charlieispy ~ i’m sorry to hear the headache is back. Do you usually suffer headaches in pregnancy?

Pinga ~ only 2 weeks! Eek how exciting! Are you nervous? :)

hello to everyone else!!!!

[charlieispy]

Yes sunset we are definitely lucky to have each other on here and have others who understand x x Today I thought WOW 16wks i could find out but i couldnt handle knowing its a boy for another 24wks....rather live in my bubble! I got headaches with ds2 and 3 they are like nothing i have ever had other than in pregnancy my head feels like it is in a vice its just horrible - ds3 isnt sleeping either as he is poorly so although i try not to take my cocodamol I havnt let myself as it knocks me out and with him in our bed I cant do that. So V tired and V sore head.

HIGH FIVE for getting in your jeans though!! V jealous at the mo i am feeling super F.A.T!!! Although i did take a crappy bump pic this morning will post it in a mo!

Waves to all x Inglewood beautiful beautiful pics x x definitely facially look girly too :D

[charlieispy]

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/charlieispy/utf-8BSU1HNzY4LmpwZw.jpg

excuse rubbish phone camera and smeary mirror lol x

[zanacal]

Charlie - you look great!

Love the photos Inglewood, they're so pretty already!

[littlemisswilko]

Charlie you are looking fab!!!!

[Sunset]

I agree! Charlie you look great! what a cute bump! :)

[Inglewood]

Charlie, what a cute bump! xx

Thanks for all ur lovely comments, they look kinna odd (in a nice way)..lol Leaves me wondering what they will look like when here.

[Kell]

Inglewood the pictures are great! And obviously they look just the same! I didn't even think that it would be so noticeable in the womb!

Charlie what a great bump! So neat! Awww can't wait to get a bump!

[Kell]

Oh and sunset I Love your avatar of her holding your finger!! So cute!

The programme was good, the families in it just seem so normal which I wasn't expecting! Amazing how the deal with 14 children! I wonder how on earth they afford it! I mean I'm sure they get some benefits or something but still that's alot of people to feed and clothe etc!

[Babymad]

Thanks everyone for all your comments and support - it really is great having such a fab bunch to turn to xxx

Loving your bump Charlie x
Fab scan pics Inglewood x

Soooooo tired so off to bed x

[maybebabythree]

Ah babymad - kind of know how you feel but not exactly as you had your girl at one point. Must make it harder for you, i cant imagine that pain. I don't like to think about it but it still hurts for me to. I hate to say that as I feel it belittles dave and he deserves so much more than to be my gd baby. He is worth so much more than that. Feel like I have crawled over broken glass on my bear hands and knees to get him. I do feel like we are a complete family now. Maybe if I was millionaire and younger I would do ivf but I am getting past the dd thing ( but yes it's hard - I could easily cry out why not me? Why it's not fair!) but I find it better to ignore that and think of what do I have. Besides this maybe your girl! It's not over till it's over! I could well be the only smog carrying a boy! There are so many dreams I have that can't come true. A girl is just one of them. I just feel blessed to be pg one more time. Something I didn't think I would be able to do again.

Felt I'll today. Swelling up like a hot air balloon, feel sick, pain in my cervix, can't walk hardly ( much to everyones amusement!) seeing stars. Feels like pe but without the high bp or protein. Not sure I will escape it this time but if I don't I just want it to come now so I can get it over with. It's the not knowing and waiting I hate.

[maybebabythree]

Ah Charlie your bump is lovely! Mine is rock hard but unbelievably still flabby underneath!!!! How I don't know! Nature is mocking me with a bump so rock hard yet still not taking up the slack of my pre pg flab! Grrghh! It will be by knees keeping my pelvic floor company soon enough!

Inglewood so glad your scan went well x

[Kell]

I barely have a bump it's annoying lol
But we did manage to find the baby with my Doppler last night! :) I let dp find it, at first he was wowing at my heartbeat pmsl! Then I say keep looking it'll be much faster than that! So he did and we found it!
Ds2 had a listen as well which was cute! I can't wait to let ds1 hear it! He was at his dad's last night!

[Lavenderlime]

Morning all,

kell amazing news hearing the little heartbeat!

Charlie what a great bump don't think I ever had such a lovely little bump at 16 weeks!

I had more spotting well actually it was tinged pink cm yesterday when I wiped and and when I went to the loo again it was clear cm so thought I was imagining things. Then it was a browny/grey CM, then back to pink and now clear this a.m but felt wet this a.m so thought I started bleeding again but just CM sorry TMI. This is the oddest cycle i've ever had!

I went to bed last night at 5pm until-8pm when dp when dp went food shopping. And I caught up on some telly, then watched the gypsy blood programme on 4 I wished I hadn't it made me feel really sick (all the blood, killing rabbits, chickens, bambi) and so sad for those boys. Don't like to judge people from an edited documetary but it's really hard not to.

[pinga]

inglewood - great pictures! :D

Charlie - I can't believe how great you look and this is your 4th!! My bump is sooo much bigger - mostly due to weak posture muscles - if that makes sense! I look about 10 weeks further along than I am :P

Sunset - not really nervous about my scan. I am pretty confident we'll hear boy. I have shed a few tears late at night... but I try not to think about it.

A sad day for me. Today it is 10 years since I lost my Mum! Can't believe I've been without her for that long...

We're off tomorrow so I'll catch up with you all in about a week...

[Petal]

Hi all,

Aww inglewood, those little girls are soo cute! and i just love the names! Ruby was on my list too :-) sounds like you had a perfect day out too x

Maybe, i know what you mean about the guilt and that our boys deserve so much more than to be gd babies, i try not to think of the times i felt really down due to him being a boy, it turns my stomach just to think of how i felt at my 16 week scan compared to the way i feel about him now. He is such a joy to have! when people ask me if im gonna have a 4th and try for a girl (which really pisses me off) i reply that if i could have ds3's twin then i would have him tomorrow! (which shuts them up pretty sharpish) as hes so good! hes a good sleeper, good eater, a true smiler and most importantly he makes us all smile, the older boys adore him and when they talk to him he really giggles at them which just melts my heart :-)) I truley believe he was sent to me for a reason and i couldnt be happier.

Babymad.. i totally understand how you feel, and all i can say is time is a great healer :-) For me, i think i made the right choice to find out the sex and im glad i done it alone so i could get over it by myself without worrying DH, i had 4 weeks to 'mourn a dd' and by 20 weeks it wasnt so hard. We are all here for you as you all were for me :-)

Sunset, ur pics are lovely, and ur fb comment made me giggle about you in ur size 6 jeans lol, think one of my legs alone is a size 6 haha.

Love to you all x x x

[Petal]

Oh Pinga, a sad day for you, im sure your mum is very proud of you! x

[Babymad]

I had a gender scan this morning and it's a boy which was no shock after seeing his willy at he 20 wk scan. Not telling anyone including DH that I know. At least I can give the pink outfit away that I kept under my bed whilst ttc and it won't be here when he arrives.
Thanks for all your kinds words xxx

[charlieispy]

Babymad - sending you some HUGE love right now x I hope you are ok x I dont really know what to write but he will be beautiful just like your other boys, and i truelly feel i will join you with 4 boys....and when i do can we please get that shared room for them all! THey will only need footballs ;) Will you tell DH before the birth or keep it to yourself x I got rid of everything pink once I knew ds3 was a boy it was hard but helped me x much love hun x

Petal - your post made me cry I could have written that myself ds3 i think i am closer to in some ways due to my GD the thought of not wanting him after my scan and looking at him now.....sitting next to me shredding toilet paper (just so i can send some emails!!) he is my dreamiest boy yet....so loving kisses everyone i think because i constantly kiss him lol! If i have 4 boys it was fate and i wasnt meant to have girls.....like DH says they will only hate you when they get older :P

Pinga - huge hugs hun what a hard day for you x cant imagine being without your mum for so long x give those boys some bigs hugs and think how proud she must be of you as she watches over you x x

lavender - ooooh your cycle is squiffy hope it sorts itself out - your never know could be O bleeding and then implantation bleeding x #FX

deaks - FX FX FX for your attempt come on BFP :D

Kell - YAY for finding the heartbeat and ds listening ds1 loves the doppler!!! Am sure your bump will pop out soon x i feel huge :S

waves to everyone else must go indy is now trying to write in ds1 homework book AArrggghhhhh

off to a spa tomorrow though so got to find a cossie and shave :S not looking forward to getting my plump out x

[pinga]

Just popped on before going to bed...

Oh Babymad - HUGE hugs!!! I hope you are doing ok.... I know there is nothing really that I can say... I always think of my brother when I feel particularly sad. He was soooo close to my Mum and he always got around her with a hug and some sweet-talking. He always had time out to see her! So we can and WILL have close and special relationships with our boys!!
Take care, hon.

[deaks66]

Just a quickly before i head out to preschool,

Babymad, im also sending you masses of love right now. Wish i could give you a big hug in real life and say something to make this less hard for you. Im so glad you found out as you have plenty of time now to shed some tears and then look forward to your wonderful little bundle arriving. Are you ok hun?

[deaks66]

Pinga, i didnt want to dash off without giving you a hug too. I dont know how anyone manages without their mums around so you are amazing!

[deaks66]

Just popped on before going to bed...

Oh Babymad - HUGE hugs!!! I hope you are doing ok.... I know there is nothing really that I can say... I always think of my brother when I feel particularly sad. He was soooo close to my Mum and he always got around her with a hug and some sweet-talking. He always had time out to see her! So we can and WILL have close and special relationships with our boys!!
Take care, hon.

My brother is just like that too :)

[Inglewood]

Babymad, don't know what to say other than I truly and honestly always believed had I swayed and had another boy then he was meant to be here, to be part of our family and I was meant to be a mum of boys. I couldn't imagine life without my ds2 (a major mummy's boy) who like ur ds3 is a cuddly, loving wee boy and he is amazing, just as I am sure ur baby will be. You mentioned before you bond quickly with your babies, so this little guy is gonna be super lucky to have a fab mum and dad and great brothers to show him lots and to love him. Can imagine the next wee while will be tough, esp if DH doesn't know, but you will prob feel better in the long run for knowing? I feel so guilty now about my GD when ds2 was born, found it hard to bond straight away, that's why I need to know this time, so I never felt like that again when my baby arrived. I have prob been been much more closer to ds2 over the past 5yrs than I prob was to ds1 at a young age. Congratulations, he'll be another wee man for you to love dearly!

Sending you lots of hugs. xx

[Inglewood]

Pinga, huge hugs to you too. It can't be easy not having your mum around. x

[littlemisswilko]

But we did manage to find the baby with my Doppler last night! :) I let dp find it, at first he was wowing at my heartbeat pmsl!

hahahaha what are fellas like pmsl!!!

[littlemisswilko]

I went to bed last night at 5pm until-8pm when dp when dp went food shopping. And I caught up on some telly, then watched the gypsy blood programme on 4 I wished I hadn't it made me feel really sick (all the blood, killing rabbits, chickens, bambi) and so sad for those boys. Don't like to judge people from an edited documetary but it's really hard not to.

i watched half an hour of it last night and had to turn away when they had them chickens fighting. im guessing the chicken killed the other chicken but i felt so sad. Especially when all the children were stood around watching and that bloke was willing the chicken to 'finish the other one off' just so horrid. No child should have to see that. Imagine thinking back on your childhood with memories of that?? just horrid!

[littlemisswilko]

((hugs)) pinga must be so hard without your mam around! giving you a big virtual hug! xxxx

[littlemisswilko]

Babymad congratulations on you little boy! im really glad you went and had a sexing scan as now you have time to come to terms with your GD im sure your little boy is as gorgeous as ever! Hope you start to feel a lot better about the whole situation and im sure you will start to get excited about the arrival of him soon!

sending you a HUGE virtual hug! xxxx

[Lavenderlime]

Pinga sorry to hear that you lost your mum 10 years ago and I hope this anniversary is filled with lots of lovely memmories. big hugs x

babymad I really think the sexing scan was such a brave decision but the right one congratulations on your little boy. What a gorgeous little brood you'll have. I know how you must have felt because I felt my heart sink at the word it's a boy twice. But It wasn't because they were boy's but the fact that they weren't girl's IFYSWIM. You know you did your best by swaying and this was what was ment to be. Would a little shopping spre of lovely little boy bits make you feel a little better, Is there anyone in real life you can talk about it with? I felt really low for a few days but once I'd let it go talked it over with my friends it was easy to move on and focus my little boy growing in belly. Big hugs x

[deaks66]

I had more spotting well actually it was tinged pink cm yesterday when I wiped and and when I went to the loo again it was clear cm so thought I was imagining things. Then it was a browny/grey CM, then back to pink and now clear this a.m but felt wet this a.m so thought I started bleeding again but just CM sorry TMI. This is the oddest cycle i've ever had!


You really are having a strange cycle! I hope that once you have this months af it all sorts itself out.

[Babymad]

Thanks girls xxx
Not doing too good at the minute...day at a time I suppose.
I really appreciate everyone's support, couldn't get by without it xxx

[Kell]

Babymad I'm sorry your feeling low, congratulations on your healthy little man, I wish there were something w could do to make it better, I guess times a healer as with any kind of grief. Hugs xxx

Pinga, sorry you lost your mum, Hope your ok today! x

Lavender when's af due? What an odd cycle, hope your spotting/bleeding has gone now!

[chocolate]

Ahh Babymad, sorry you didnt hear girl, take some time to feel disappointed without feeling guilty about it, thats fine to do!!
I think that families of all boys tend to get a bit of a better mother son bond because the boys dont have that 'mother/daughter' bond to compete with. They probably also have such a great bond with their brothers that this kind of sets them up to be a bit more open to continuing that bond with them and also their parents.

Hope that makes sense, If I end up with 4 boys I will be so sad to accept I won't have a girl, but I can see myself having family dinners with all 4 boys and just loving being the only female there and think we would all feel a bit closer to each other than if we had a girl there too. Its hard when we can't have one of the most important dreams in our lives, but am sure you will conquer it soon and will enjoy the benefits of having lots of boys, going to be some special close bonds in that household! I would have loved loved loved to have been 1 of the 4 of the same gender, how amazing!

[Sunset]

Babymad, congratulations on your precious baby boy!!! :HH: i'm so sorry to hear you're feeling down at the minute.. i don't really know what to say to make it any better other than don't be too hard on yourself! give yourself plenty of time to grieve your daughter and in time i'm sure you will start to look forward to meeting your beautiful baby boy! we are all here for you and we all support you!! sending you a big virtual hug!!!!

[Sunset]

Pinga ~ big hugs!!!! i hope today is full of beautiful memories!

[Lavenderlime]

Kell AF is Due on Wednesday CD 27 so in 5 days.

Deaks I know right?! Me too!

Charlie when I googled it (I know it shouldn't but I can't help it sounded like implantion spotting because of the tinged CM with the days PO) But I didn't make an attempt this month but suppose there is of course a teeny tiny chance I could be pregnant. But we only DD twice this month. Because at the start of the month DP pissed me off about my birthday so wasn't even talking to him, then we made up and then I started bleeding. Whe it stopped I got this awful cold. Both times it was with the withdrawel method and I used rephresh literally just before so highly doubt anything got through that combo!

I'll have to wait and see what happens on Wednesday really I guess. Just think my body is playing trick on me because I started TTC last month. So my hormones have gone doolally or something???! lol

[indigoviolet]

oh gosh Babymad....I'm just stunned for you, can imagine how you are feeling. ((((hugs)))) we are here for you. I like the fact that we went through it with petal and now she is so positive and is honestly happy. thank goodness we have eachother. You will get through this (although you don't want to and I wish we could make it different for you). Oh hun, loads of love and will keep you in my prayers.

[deaks66]

Babymad, been thinking of you all afternoon. Was wandering if you felt you could tell dh as perhaps it would help to talk to someone. Might help the floodgates to properly open and that might help with the process of greiving for a dd. I know it did for me when i went through the same with ds2. lots of love X

Lavender...ooo yes i didnt realise you attempted at all, so it could well be implantation!!! Exciting!

[zanacal]

Oh Babymad, massive {hugs}. I agree that it was really brave of you to have the scan and I'm sorry for all the heartache you're going through right now. You have the most beautiful boys (as if you need telling :D) and I know your new little man will be just as sweet but it's perfectly ok (and understandable, we all know that) to grieve for now and to take as much time as you need to feel excited about his arrival. Thinking of you x

[Lavenderlime]

Babymad, been thinking of you all afternoon. Was wandering if you felt you could tell dh as perhaps it would help to talk to someone. Might help the floodgates to properly open and that might help with the process of greiving for a dd. I know it did for me when i went through the same with ds2. lots of love X

Lavender...ooo yes i didnt realise you attempted at all, so it could well be implantation!!! Exciting!

Deaks wasn't really an attempt as we've used the withdrawal method for about a year as (slack) contraception and I haven't got pregnant but I did use rephresh before DD anyhow because swaying has made me a little paranoid.
I really do think it's my hormones.

Just read this 15 Kids and Counting - Why I'm not dying for a baby (http://www.largerfamilylife.com/2012/01/19/15-kids-and-counting-why-im-not-dying-for-a-baby/) if any of you watched 15 kids and counting it's the blog of the slightly bonkers mum pregnant with twin girls, well that's how she was edited. I thought her twins looked a good size for being born at 34 weeks and she left after two days turns out they weren't rushed in and were born at 36+ weeks! Bad editing. Worth a read.

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi ladies,
Hope it doesn't feel intrusive that I only pop on this thread every so often. I keep up with lots of the posts that are sent to my email, but you miss quite a bit not that way.
Ingelwood~ Love Love Love the names. Its awesome how they go together without being "too Much" like sara and sari. LOL (hope I didn't just offend someone) The connection is great without being blaringly obvious! AND the girls are beautiful!!!! They look so peaceful in the scan pics. So happy you finally really KNOW they are girls.

Babymad~ If I can say, I agree with everyone else about knowing for sure about your little bean. I lost a girl this summer, I know exactly how you feel. I'm not even preggers yet and I think knowing the gender of the baby I lost will make it all that much harder if my next ends up a boy. Hate admitting it but its true. I will be in a white coat! no, really I might be. I know eventually I'd get over it, probably from the moment they are in my arms. (pretty much how I felt with DS2). Just always thought I'd have girls. How could I not? F*&%! thats what I always pictured without question.

Sunset~ The pics are beautiful of ALL of you! You must be over the moon. Hope your enjoying every moment :)

Zanacal~ Thats exciting that you will get a 4D scan can't wait to see the pics.

Deaks~ Hope your attempt goes well. I saw it was coming up soon. I will attempt in February. Hopefully you'll get a BFP and I'll be right behind you.

[Sunset]

HopeandDreamG ~ Your attempt is coming up fast :) good luck!

Deaks ~ are you relaxing timing this month? you have to keep us posted on your attempt!! :)

Zanacal ~ when are you having a 4D? :)

Lavenderlime ~ I'm still convinced she and her hubby were trying for a girl... ? i had no idea urine infections can cause a headache? :S

[maybebabythree]

Ah sunset congratulations and hugs. You know life doesn't seem fair some days. It is greif your feeling. It really is a loss but like a loss you have to cry and scream to get through it. It's ok to feel bad. Bubs doesn't know your sad. Your not sad about him, he isnt making you sad. Your lost dream is making you sad. Xxxx

Pinga sorry about your mum. My dad died six weeks before I had ds1. It honestly never ever gets easier for me x

[Babymad]

Thanks for your understanding everyone xx
I know I will love this baby when he arrives but at the moment I just feel so numb, I don't feel like I have an attachment at all. I'm sure that will change as time goes on.
These feelings aren't new to me, I suppose the difference is this time is that its so final there are no more chances....
I'd do anything not to feel so sad and empty, all I can think of is the things I will never experience or do or have.....my head is full of everything, It feel likes it's going to explode!!!
I love my boys more than life and they bring me so much happiness and I am very grateful to have 3 healthy kids, but there's always been part of me that's feel lonely and I know the only thing that would have changed those feelings of loneliness is having a daughter.
Strange isn't it, all I could think of last night ( didn't sleep at all!) is how different my day will be depending on my news....I was so scared of hearing boy and I do feel like my world has fallen apart.....but I know I'm not the first to feel like this and I'm sure I won't be the last, I just kept hoping as I was driving to the app that I would be driving home the happiness person in the world......
I thought someone must be filming it and playing an awful joke on me as it was horrible, the sonographer asked me the usual q's, how many kids did I have, what sex they were.....and then she had the nerve to tell me she had two girls and a boy and how horrified she was at having a boy and she couldn't have anymore kids incase she had another boy, I just laid there thinking...WTF!! I then got home to find a NEXT parcel had arrived and it was a beautiful pink dress that I had ordered in the NEXT sale at Xmas (I know what an idiot!!!) the day was destined to be awful.
I dread people's pity when he arrives- most people know I would have liked a girl at some point so I'm sure they will feel sorry for me....I just wish I cold fast forward time so he was here and I could get on with it..sorry I know that sounds heartless but I know I now have another god knows how many weeks of people saying this could be your girl!!

Thanks for letting me have my rant!! I don't know what I would do without you girls....xxx

Deaks ~ I think I'll do better dealing with this on my own - DH is supportive but he doesn't really get the pain and he doesnt really understand that to me my whole life path has changed because I will never have a DD.....plus he's seen me like this before! He thought this baby would be a boy so he won't be shocked!!

Fingers crossed a good nights sleep and all will look better tomorrow......Xx

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Babymad huge huge hugs hun, hope you are feeling a little better xxxxxxxxxxx

[Kell]

So sorry, don't you worry about feeling this way, we all understand your woes it's why we are all here tbh, hugs Hun, just wish it could be a real one and a shoulder to cry on x

[deaks66]

Babymad, im so glad you are able to get your feelings off your chest with us and i do hope it helps. Its the day none of us want to face but some of us will and just knowing we can come on here and be supported means the world to us all. Your new baby (and your 3 bigger ones) are so lucky to have such an amazing mum and i really believe boys are given to some mums for a reason, because many mums would be hopeless with boys.

Sunset, im gonna relax timing in as much that im gonna dtd at around 8pm and 10pm on the day after my smiley face whether that is o+12 or not. I generally ov late so if anything it will be a little early but it will be much less stressful than cervix poking etc. My plan will be to get kids to bed, dh gets home, dtd, send dh down to make food, eat, tele, dtd, bed, done! much less stressful than cervix poking!

[zanacal]

Babymad - I can't believe the sonographer said that! Thank goodness your boys have you for a mum and not someone like her, I'm speechless!

[maybebabythree]

Wow babymad some people just say the most stupid things! I think with the comments about it being a possible girl, I find they make me smile now. I just say when people ask that I don't know the sex but I feel boy because I know boys and am a boy mum and have kept all my boys things. No one ever says after that they hope a girl is on it's way. To be honest I get more '3 - you must be mad!' comments. Again I just laugh. Not many people could hack three kids and my job but I like my hectic full little life.

If you need any boys things let me know. I can photograph my bits and post you what ever you like. Stay strong it will be a bit better tomorrow but I think it might hurt for a while yet x

[deaks66]

Woke up this morning and you were the first thing i thought about babymad, giving you another big virtual hug and thinking of you. Oh and we're off to Norfolk today for a windy/rainy romp on wells beach and a second viewing on a cottage :) Babymad, we should meet up there one day! X

[chocolate]

Hi everyone, hope ur all having a good weekend, been to the cinema with my 3 year old, too many sweets for me!!! Finally heard the placenta on the doppler, been trying for ages and only heard possible movements, the placenta was tucked far over to the left hand side, almost where I'd class as out of womb area. Its also right next to my artery or something so easy to miss it, just hope I hear the heartbeat soon. I really hope the ramzi theory works for me, but knowing me ill be in that rare 3 percent of it not being right ha ha!

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks have a lovely day in Norfolk looking at cottages sounds devine!

Chocolate ooh what does a placenta sound like? Sounds promising being on the left! Really hope it's your little girl in there! will you be going for an early sexing scan at the same place your going to you 8 week scan?

My friend with her two little boys one ds1 age the other only two weeks older than ds2 came to play today , the boys had a great time. Lots of boys really are fun and good company!

How are all those bumps coming allong? Is everyone through the worst of the sickness?
Now just having a sofa day before work later, can't afford to pull another sickie as much as I want to will just have to soldier on.

[chocolate]

Lavenderlime, hope you feel better soon. I have days where if I dont eat the right way/amount then I start to feel sick, I find having too much to eat is the worse for it, so find a thick milkshake for brekkie sorts that out, and then just a small mid-morning meal/snack.

The placenta noise is like a whistling/windy noise, can't mistake that one like you could a heartbeat, really hope its a good sign, I thought it was to the left at 6 week scan but never asked because I felt silly and couldn't trust my interpretation so will def. ask at the private scan seeing as Im paying for it. If it is left then I know Ill think girl in the back of my head which I dont really want to but gotta be better than hearing right side! Still dont want to know gender because even if I hear girl Ill worry something will snatch my dream away, gender desire sucks!

[Babymad]

Woke up this morning and you were the first thing i thought about babymad, giving you another big virtual hug and thinking of you. Oh and we're off to Norfolk today for a windy/rainy romp on wells beach and a second viewing on a cottage :) Babymad, we should meet up there one day! X

Thanks Deaks, means a lot xxx
Hope you have a lovely week-end, it would be great to meet up :) Where do you stay when you go?
I didn't have the best night, and that awful bit when you wake up and for a split second none of it was true.....then reality kicks in! I feel like I must be a really bad person or something as everywhere I turn there are baby girls and it's like someone wants me to feel worse than I already do! A girl sat next to me today with a 6 week old girl, it hurt like hell :(
Have you done your attempt yet??

[Babymad]

Wow babymad some people just say the most stupid things! I think with the comments about it being a possible girl, I find they make me smile now. I just say when people ask that I don't know the sex but I feel boy because I know boys and am a boy mum and have kept all my boys things. No one ever says after that they hope a girl is on it's way. To be honest I get more '3 - you must be mad!' comments. Again I just laugh. Not many people could hack three kids and my job but I like my hectic full little life.

If you need any boys things let me know. I can photograph my bits and post you what ever you like. Stay strong it will be a bit better tomorrow but I think it might hurt for a while yet x

Thanks Maybe xx I was so certain when we did PDG that I would never have any more children naturally and if the PDG didn't work I would be complete with 3 children, but because we found out that DH could make girls ( I honestly thought he couldn't) and because we lost our little girl I struggled to let my dream go! But I did give every item of boys clothes away as I was so certain If I needed baby clothes again they would be pink.....you just never know what's round the corner...!!
So if you have any baby bits spare that would be great, but dont worry if you don't as you'll be needing them just as much as much as me :)

[Babymad]

Hope work goes ok Lavender x
Chocolate ~ exciting! Hope it's a good pink sign x

Hi everyone else, hope you are all having a good weekend x

[maybebabythree]

Babymad I'm quite a bit ahead of you so I won't need the sizes the same time as you plus I have way to much! I will work out how best to get some photos online then you can see if you like anything and I will post them on. Seems silly to buy lots of newborn and 0-3 if I can help out.

[Wishing4Pink]

I'm so so sorry you never heard the words you so wanted to hear Babymad. I can believe they made those comments while doing your scan, some people just don't think! Take all the time you need to grieve, every one of us on here is here for you. Sending lots of huge hugs and love your way, one step at a time <3 xx

[deaks66]

Thanks Deaks, means a lot xxx
Hope you have a lovely week-end, it would be great to meet up :) Where do you stay when you go?
I didn't have the best night, and that awful bit when you wake up and for a split second none of it was true.....then reality kicks in! I feel like I must be a really bad person or something as everywhere I turn there are baby girls and it's like someone wants me to feel worse than I already do! A girl sat next to me today with a 6 week old girl, it hurt like hell :(
Have you done your attempt yet??

Hi hun, that feeling of waking up and forgetting for a split second then remembering is sheer torture. I do hope it gets easier for you really quickly. I seem to remember constantly crying for about 4 days and then it started to get easier daily. I guess it will be harder for you than that but it WILL get easier.

We stay in various places when we go to norfolk but generally somewhere between wells and Holt. I just love it over there so much. However, after our second viewing today i think we have probably decided to sell our current house and buy our forever house somewhere rural round here instead of buying a second home over there. Just not sure what we would gain other than the beach nearby when we did visit but then we made a successful day trip to the beach today so probably we should just do that more often! But we will still visit as much as possible so you should just let me know when you are holidaying there and we could come over for a play on the beach!!!! Sooooo much fun! X

[deaks66]

oh and attempt next week sometime :)

[Kell]

Wow we just had a Thai takeaway, it was actually amazing! I wish I could eat it all but that could be a bad idea!

Hope your all ok! And having a good weekend!

[HopeandDreamG]

Ahh Babymad, sorry you didnt hear girl, take some time to feel disappointed without feeling guilty about it, thats fine to do!!
I think that families of all boys tend to get a bit of a better mother son bond because the boys dont have that 'mother/daughter' bond to compete with. They probably also have such a great bond with their brothers that this kind of sets them up to be a bit more open to continuing that bond with them and also their parents.

Hope that makes sense, If I end up with 4 boys I will be so sad to accept I won't have a girl, but I can see myself having family dinners with all 4 boys and just loving being the only female there and think we would all feel a bit closer to each other than if we had a girl there too. Its hard when we can't have one of the most important dreams in our lives, but am sure you will conquer it soon and will enjoy the benefits of having lots of boys, going to be some special close bonds in that household! I would have loved loved loved to have been 1 of the 4 of the same gender, how amazing!

Chocolate~ I could not agree with you more. I literally could have written this post. I have thought these things many times.

Babymad~ ((((hugs))))

[sixhappysons]

Thanks for your understanding everyone xx
I know I will love this baby when he arrives but at the moment I just feel so numb, I don't feel like I have an attachment at all. I'm sure that will change as time goes on.
These feelings aren't new to me, I suppose the difference is this time is that its so final there are no more chances....
I'd do anything not to feel so sad and empty, all I can think of is the things I will never experience or do or have.....my head is full of everything, It feel likes it's going to explode!!!
I love my boys more than life and they bring me so much happiness and I am very grateful to have 3 healthy kids, but there's always been part of me that's feel lonely and I know the only thing that would have changed those feelings of loneliness is having a daughter.
Strange isn't it, all I could think of last night ( didn't sleep at all!) is how different my day will be depending on my news....I was so scared of hearing boy and I do feel like my world has fallen apart.....but I know I'm not the first to feel like this and I'm sure I won't be the last, I just kept hoping as I was driving to the app that I would be driving home the happiness person in the world......
I thought someone must be filming it and playing an awful joke on me as it was horrible, the sonographer asked me the usual q's, how many kids did I have, what sex they were.....and then she had the nerve to tell me she had two girls and a boy and how horrified she was at having a boy and she couldn't have anymore kids incase she had another boy, I just laid there thinking...WTF!! I then got home to find a NEXT parcel had arrived and it was a beautiful pink dress that I had ordered in the NEXT sale at Xmas (I know what an idiot!!!) the day was destined to be awful.
I dread people's pity when he arrives- most people know I would have liked a girl at some point so I'm sure they will feel sorry for me....I just wish I cold fast forward time so he was here and I could get on with it..sorry I know that sounds heartless but I know I now have another god knows how many weeks of people saying this could be your girl!!

Thanks for letting me have my rant!! I don't know what I would do without you girls....xxx

Deaks ~ I think I'll do better dealing with this on my own - DH is supportive but he doesn't really get the pain and he doesnt really understand that to me my whole life path has changed because I will never have a DD.....plus he's seen me like this before! He thought this baby would be a boy so he won't be shocked!!

Fingers crossed a good nights sleep and all will look better tomorrow......Xx

ALL of this is exactly how I felt when I found out I was carrying DS7... not DD1. How different you picture your life to be, how cruel life is instead. I too didn't tell DH. I went to the scan in secret with my sister (told him I went shopping). I had to live with the sadness for another 8 days until the "official sexing scan" was. I cried so hard for those 8 days so when it came time to find out with DH & my 6 boys I wan't so sad. I never wanted my boys to see me sad about another boy so had to do it to prepare myself.
Fast forward 9 months and my DS7 is 3 months old and the sweetest, cutest (largest - ouch!), most perfect addition to the family. Of course I'm still sad about not having a DD. I am desperate for her but every day gets easier. You can overcome GD. I have several times!
I believe everything happens for a reason. Stay strong sweetheart. I know precisely how you feel. (((((hugs)))) :hug2::bighug:

[charlieispy]

Hi ladies x

Been away being spoilt with my mum and sisters....so nice to be with girls!

Babymad - hugest hugs hun hugest sending you all thel ove in the world x i wish i could fast forward things for you x

Deaks - oooooh sounds devine we looooove wells and norfolk you never know we could have a SMOG beach meet up :D good luck for attempt x x

sorry will catch up tomorrow if poss although i have a funeral to attend :( so possibly tuesday x x

[charlieispy]

BTW i brought a pushchair :O naughty mummy

[zanacal]

BTW i brought a pushchair :O naughty mummy

Tell me more! I don't need a new one but I keep browsing ....

[charlieispy]

I got a first wheels twin off ebay ...got to pick it up Friday! Wanted something where i can see baby easier love my p&t but bub is hidden i dint have the car in the week so walk for 2hrs most days this one ds 3 can face me or face forward too x doubt i will keep it once ds 3 is bit bigger but it was 1/3 of price of a new one but used twice supposedly paid with paypal so am covered....most of them were going for 100more i think i will at least get my money back if i look after it :) havnt told dh yet x comes with carry cot too so can lift baby off in that for playgroups etc

[maybebabythree]

Oh god I think I am more excited about my pram than the baby who's going in it! It's lovely! Been to Portsmouth outlet today and got dave some older bits in the sale. Number one little brother top in next, dinosaur top, blue asides crib shoes etc. Neither boys cottoned on it's a boy! I have a romper that says boy too but they are still clueless! Just done some overtime to pay for it and working Saturday now too!

I just want him to come now! I want to
Meet him! ( and to stop the booting I get all the time from him too!) ooh so excited this weekend. The crib is up too!

[Sunset]

maybebaby not long to go!! :)

[charlieispy]

ooooh maybe all those clothes sound lovely :D bless your boys!! Cant wait to get my new buggy have a play lol - then will need to store it away - luckily have garage space although will need to rearrange my other buggies! Obsessed yes....but all second hand so not quite so naughty ;)

well my black dress wont do up on my bump so going to have to wear it with the button undone at the back and wear a cardi and REMEMBER not to take it off x i dont really wear black so only have this one dress.....which i love but unfortunately is now my 'funeral' dress. Better start getting ready as it begins at 11 x x hope you are all ok

babymad been thinking of you x

[indigoviolet]

All this shopping is making me jealous lol, Maybe, all those clothes etc sound so cute, funny how the boys didn't cotton on!
pram sounds super Charlie, I will start browsing soon....hope the funeral goes as OK as it can.

Babymad- thinking of you :HH: what I find annoying is that one of us can't go through the GD, we all (or a lot of us) have to go through it and slog it out until it gets better. Wish there was a magic spell just to take the GD away. It sucks and is just NOT fair. Praying you start to feel little improvements soon. What is amazing is that people do get over it and don't look back, praying this happens for you fast. Stay strong hun.

[Petal]

Hi ladies!!

Oh babymad, congrats on your little boy! Im soooo sorry you didnt hear girl, i know exactly how you feel hun. Its just not fair sometimes :-( you did ALL you could do to sway the odds so just remember this little boy is just meant to be in this world with your lovely family, wow hes gonna be so loved, all your sons are gorgeous! It will take some time to get used to i know but as time goes on it will get easier, thinking of you x x

I live an hour and a half away from Wells and North Norfolk and we often pop up there for a day out so id defo be up for a smog meeting in the summer, that would be great :-)))

Maybe, i soo know what you mean about pushchairs! they are just the best part (other than the baby) haha. I love mine although its so big i just love it!

Ds3 and i had our check up today at the docs, we are both fine and i was given a prescription to go back on the pill, my doc said 'considering your age i suggest you go on this one' i was like are you calling me old lol, He said well at 31 your fertility isnt what it was!! how rude lol.

Lovely sunny day here today :-)
Love to you all x x

[maybebabythree]

maybebaby not long to go!! :)

Just as well. If I don't burst from excitement soon I will burst from my massive growth spurt! It's like 100* Christmases in one! Give it a few months I will moaning about lack of sleep lol!

[maybebabythree]

Omg petal I'm 37 which seems to be a 'young mum' in Surrey. Possibly as you to hit 40 before you can buy a house around here. Not sure what I will do after dave comes. Dh still plans the snip which I think is for the best. But then it's no ivf and no baby ever. Dh says we can talk about it after the birth but tbh were both getting on now. Worked out I might be 50 and still standing outside junior school like the boys gran!!!

My sis has my pram but I am itching to get my hands on it!!!

[Babymad]

ALL of this is exactly how I felt when I found out I was carrying DS7... not DD1. How different you picture your life to be, how cruel life is instead. I too didn't tell DH. I went to the scan in secret with my sister (told him I went shopping). I had to live with the sadness for another 8 days until the "official sexing scan" was. I cried so hard for those 8 days so when it came time to find out with DH & my 6 boys I wan't so sad. I never wanted my boys to see me sad about another boy so had to do it to prepare myself.
Fast forward 9 months and my DS7 is 3 months old and the sweetest, cutest (largest - ouch!), most perfect addition to the family. Of course I'm still sad about not having a DD. I am desperate for her but every day gets easier. You can overcome GD. I have several times!
I believe everything happens for a reason. Stay strong sweetheart. I know precisely how you feel. (((((hugs)))) :hug2::bighug:

Thanks for your post, really kind xx
Trying my hardest to be strong......
I appreciate you taking the time to send hugs, I could really do with them right now.
Enjoy your boys and thanks again xx

[Babymad]

Thanks for your thoughts everyone.....you've all been so kind xxx

[Inglewood]

Hi Ladies,

Babymad, I have thought about you lots and hoping ur ok? Did u tell DH? or will you wait? I can't begin to imagine how you must feel esp after conceiving ur girl thru PGD. I hope as the weeks pass things get easier. xx

[Lavenderlime]

Hi ladies just checking in probably won't be on as much over the next two weeks as our internet is down and just waiting for a new router to be sent out but will try and keep up on my phone. :)

[Dreaming]

Babymad - I just came across your post kind of by accident. It made me cry. I wish things had been different. I know you will love your little boy more than anything and it will be just fine when he arrives, but I'm thinking of you right now and sending the biggest of hugs your way xx

[Sunset]

Babymad ~ just want you to know that i'm thinking of you too!! you've got lots of support here and we're all here whenever you need to talk/vent!

[Sunset]

HDs3 and i had our check up today at the docs, we are both fine and i was given a prescription to go back on the pill, my doc said 'considering your age i suggest you go on this one' i was like are you calling me old lol, He said well at 31 your fertility isnt what it was!! how rude lol.


the cheek! i can't believe he actually said that :S

[sixhappysons]

Can I be added to the roll call please (EEEKKKKK).

sixhappysons Me 31, Dh 34, 7xDS TTC FEB 2012

[Sunset]

welcome sixhappysons! :)

[sixhappysons]

TY sunset. So nervous!

[Wishing4Pink]

Hi sixhappysons :welcome:

[maybebabythree]

Babymad thinking of you too x I think it really does easier (if only bit by bit ) with time. When I was in gap yesterday I looked in the girl sale rail as I could see some red leggings ( I love red!) so I rummaged through and found red and blue leggings just right for a boy. All I could think was 'great these are lovely for dave!' not 'ah look at the pink top with the cat on' but I would have 13 weeks ago. But I must say next was a bit harder. I might have to veto next for a while!

Welcome six happy sons! I remember you well from
Ig. Good luck with your attempt. Seems like you are lucky too fall pg quickly x

[Inglewood]

Hello sixhappysons! All the best TTC next month!

Sunset, hope Serena is doing well?

Deaks and Lavender, not been on for a day or 2 and with preggo brain, did u guys attempt this wkend? how did it go?

Indigo, how are u keeping?

Maybe, do u tend to go over with ur babies? Remember we laughed our babies might be born close together? Mine could be here 10wks on thurs!!!!!! OMG! Get my section date in 4wks.

I have a scan tomorrow, my routine hosp scan, so hoping all is well and they are thriving well together. A mum I'm kinna friendly with at school who has a 4wk old girl handed me a bag of baby clothes! FAB!! esp when buying for 2! so chuffed. I met another mum at the school today who will find out after 3 boys the sex of her baby in 2 wks and another mum said... "Oh, she'll be sick with envy if it's a boy and u got 2 girls" She just looked at me and smiled, but inside I knew how she felt to wait and worry (this mum admitted she had been trying for a girl since her ds2 was born) I felt so so bad for her, esp since I do feel a bit guilty having 2 and believe me feel super blessed, I just wish we were all given our girls. That other mum was so insensitive! I can't stop thinking about how that other mum must feel after that comment! Hope she gets her girl to shut that other mum up!! xx

Well, sorry not many personals, have MEGA tidied my house today and my back is breaking, so off to rest on the couch and watch some Tv.

Catch up tomorrow ladies, nite xx

[Lavenderlime]

Welcome six happy son's! I will add you to the roll call if I can, I'm on my blackberry as we have no internet whilst we wait for a new router to be delivered. I'm trying to keep up but it's hard to post as the page struggles to load.

[Inglewood]

Morning all!

Just a quick "hello" getting ready to go to my (almost) 26wk scan, hoping babies are doing well in there together and wondering what approx weight they will give me today!!

Pop on later, xx

[Sunset]

Maybebaby ~ I think it's great to read how excited you are to meet the new arrival :)

Inglewood ~ You shouldn't feel guilty for being blessed with 2 baby girls! :) I can't believe the nerve of that other woman! so insensitive and it makes me cringe just thinking of how that boy mum felt when she made such a terrible comment. I think we've all been in a similar situation to that at some point :thumbsdown:
Serena is doing geat :) I cant believe she's 3 weeks old already and she's nearly grown out of her early baby clothes. At the moment she's wearing the outfit i bought for my sway back in january last year. I can't believe what a journey it's been!

[indigoviolet]

Welcome 6happysons :HH:

Inglewood, don't feel guilty, you deserve this and it is just lovely that you can empathise and understand how that other mum is feeling and don't go around making stupid comments. All of us on here are SO much more sensitive to other people so at least having our gender desire has made us better, more sensitive and kind people. Ifkwim.

I had a lovely coffee with maybebaby this morning! Had a good old chat and my little ds2 was relatively well behaved and let us talk (for hours!). Maybe- you look amazing by the way, NOT enormous!! I'd say blooming! Hope you had a lovely relaxing afternoon :HH:

[Babymad]

Babymad - I just came across your post kind of by accident. It made me cry. I wish things had been different. I know you will love your little boy more than anything and it will be just fine when he arrives, but I'm thinking of you right now and sending the biggest of hugs your way xx

Thanks Dreaming, means a lot. How are you doing? I hope you are all doing well xx

[Babymad]

Hi Ladies,

Babymad, I have thought about you lots and hoping ur ok? Did u tell DH? or will you wait? I can't begin to imagine how you must feel esp after conceiving ur girl thru PGD. I hope as the weeks pass things get easier. xx

Thanks Hun xx Been keeping as busy as I can to be honest, can't bear to have time to think about it all! No I haven't told DH, Im not ready to talk about it all yet and probably won't tell him.
I'm trying to be positive, looked at baby pics last night and I felt a bit better.
I know it will be a long time before I can accept never having a DD and all that goes with it so still have lots of wobbles but I'm trying xx
How are you doing? Did you sort your car out? Xx

[Babymad]

Babymad thinking of you too x I think it really does easier (if only bit by bit ) with time. When I was in gap yesterday I looked in the girl sale rail as I could see some red leggings ( I love red!) so I rummaged through and found red and blue leggings just right for a boy. All I could think was 'great these are lovely for dave!' not 'ah look at the pink top with the cat on' but I would have 13 weeks ago. But I must say next was a bit harder. I might have to veto next for a while!

Welcome six happy sons! I remember you well from
Ig. Good luck with your attempt. Seems like you are lucky too fall pg quickly x

Thanks Hun xx pleased it was easier for you. I am such a girly girl that I love anything and everything pink so I find it so hard to shop and not feel extremely sad when I see pink things everywhere!! I dont even look to be honest, last time I was in next looking at pink I started crying.....had to leg it before anyone saw me!! I will miss so much about not having a DD, it really does break my heart to think I have a lifetime without having that relationship.
What is your actual due date?? Are the boys excited? X

[Babymad]

Inglewood, hope your scan goes well :)
Indigo, when is your scan?
Deaks, when are you next going to Wells? I tried to book a Sun holiday for Easter but no luck! We are hoping to buy a caravan this year...long gone are our holidays abroad with four kids!!
Welcome sixhappysons, good look with swaying :)

Hi everyone else xx

[charlieispy]

Oh babymad (((HUG))) wish i could give you one in real life x I hope things get easier as time passes I know it will never go away but it will get easier especially when you see his beautiful face x

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls been away for a day or two.

welcome 6happysons! great to have you hear and good luck with all the swaying malarkey!!!

lavender you asked earlier about the us preggy girls with the sickness, im still feeling yucky. i wake up every morning feeling like ive got a hangover and literally have to drag myself out of bed . just have this sick feeling all the time! hoping its all worth while!

have my first MW appointment on Thurs and hoping she's going to get me booked in for a scan! hoping because i haven't gone early to see her that it wont take longer to get my 12 weeks scan appointment!

Babymad- sending you a real big hug! hoping it gets easier for you as the time passes on!

inglewood! Yes you are definitely blessed to be having '2' girls but have every right to! your girls chose you and are lucky to have you as a mummy! So nasty of the mum to make horrid comments about the boy mum! i too hope she has a girl just to shut the other mum up. No doubt she has one of each so couldn't possibly understand what she is saying!!!

[Babymad]

Oh babymad (((HUG))) wish i could give you one in real life x I hope things get easier as time passes I know it will never go away but it will get easier especially when you see his beautiful face x

Thanks sweetie xx where are you? Promise I won't just turn up on your doorstep ;) Wish I could stop feeling so sad all the time, everything I do seems to involve being reminded of it all over and over again....I feel like there's no escape.
How are you feeling? Are the headaches any better? I need a new pushchair too so going to try and get a bargain. X

[Babymad]

hiya girls been away for a day or two.

welcome 6happysons! great to have you hear and good luck with all the swaying malarkey!!!

lavender you asked earlier about the us preggy girls with the sickness, im still feeling yucky. i wake up every morning feeling like ive got a hangover and literally have to drag myself out of bed . just have this sick feeling all the time! hoping its all worth while!

have my first MW appointment on Thurs and hoping she's going to get me booked in for a scan! hoping because i haven't gone early to see her that it wont take longer to get my 12 weeks scan appointment!

Babymad- sending you a real big hug! hoping it gets easier for you as the time passes on!

inglewood! Yes you are definitely blessed to be having '2' girls but have every right to! your girls chose you and are lucky to have you as a mummy! So nasty of the mum to make horrid comments about the boy mum! i too hope she has a girl just to shut the other mum up. No doubt she has one of each so couldn't possibly understand what she is saying!!!

GL with your MW app Littlemiss :) I didn't see the MW until I was 10 weeks either and thought my scan would be late but it was bang on time so hopefully you won't have to wait too long. Hope the sickness eases soon x

[Lavenderlime]

Little miss just scrolling down the thread on my phone and I think we may have to book you into ticker addicts anonymous lol! Sickness sounds horrible. But do hope it's a girly sign for you.

Not much going on here. Hope you've all had a good day. Can't believ how fast everyones pregnancies are going won't be long until the 3rd smog baby is added to the rollcall!

[charlieispy]

Littlemiss - same here i didnt have book in till later - they dont do it early here and my scan came through quickly x HUGS for the hangover sickness x thats what i was like with ds1 & 2 x it got worse with 3 and this one was more physical!!!

Inglewood - you shouldnt ever feel guilty for getting your girls you deserve them totally x that poor mum - i know how she feels!! am sure we all do - i feel more pressure this time though and with every boy i produce to produce a girl. Even at the funeral yesterday it was my main topic of questioning :(

Babymad - milton keynes hun :D anytime ......definitely think a wells meet up needs to be done in the summer though...sounds like quite a lot of us will be able to make that. Very jealous of caravan - would looooove one....although i have threatened to get one paint the interior totally cath esque and go live it in when boy numero 4 arrives!

sunset - cant believe serena is 3 weeks old already little girly is so beautiful though

Hello 6happysons - welcome and highfive to you and your brood x FX for you and pink

Indigo - oooooh very jealous you and maybes coffee meet :D sounds lovely glad you had a good time and ds behaved too :D

I am starting to believe less in swaying the more i read lol - a couple of sites I have read stories of multiple attempts and with no success x maybe its just fate after all x

[deaks66]

Just a quicky to see how you are doing babymad. You know if you live anywhere near hertfordshire, i would be more than happy for you to come over to mine for a cuppa and a hug...and i genuinely mean it! Wish i would make all this easier for you. Got my +opk today i think. lunchtime was just a shade off so im expecting it will be + by tonight. Sorry for the sickness LMW. Lavender you made me laugh about ticker anonymous! X

[deaks66]

charlie, if i ever hear boy, im defo heading over to mk for a hug! In fact we may be moving even closer to you as we have found two houses to look at this weekend near bedford!

[littlemisswilko]

Little miss just scrolling down the thread on my phone and I think we may have to book you into ticker addicts anonymous lol!


hahahahahaha PMSL i know!! i just carnt help it! :)

[charlieispy]

oooooh deaks definitely!! Guess where i am heading friday.....HERTS to pick up my buggy :D yay for the OPKS hope they get darker x

[maybebabythree]

Ah thanks for a lovely morning indigo. Your ds is just so cute! He seems like a happy little boy! I can't belive your still running around, my insides would fall out if I ran now. Another mum asked if I was ok on the afterschool as I was in so much pain. I feel like a real moaner now

Inglewood I am due on the 8th march. Ds1 was three weeks early and ds2 was about 7 days late. So who knows with this one? I hope early but I am watching the 15 kids of counting I recorded. The mums on there who feel addicted to being pg mad me a bit sad. I should be loving every second but it just beeping hurts!! I kept saying that's going to be me with 15 kids. I think I can totally understand wanting just one more and ending up with 15. I did laugh at the baby being sick while the toddler was crying etc. That felt quite a bit like my life with two!

Going to try to remember to enjoy each little pain now as this is supposed to be my last - ;-)

[maybebabythree]

Babymad - it's hard avoiding pink and little girls and girly things. Next is a no go for me some days. Oh and the kids section in monsoon! Do you a sister or girlie friend? I keep reminding myself I have a lovely sister who loves the spa and shopping. My mum on the other hand detests shopping! She tuts if she has to queue for more than one minute ( why???? Your retired woman!!! What else have you to rush off for???) she also hates spending money and when I tell her how much things cost she asks if I am loaded! '£3 for a sandwich?? You must be loaded!!! £1 for a cup of tea??? You must earn a fortune???' me ' er no - where do you live? The moon!' takes the fun out of shopping trip with her!

If you love the girlie things you don't exclusively need a dd for that. The other things are a bit more tricky. My son loves shoes and buying shoes so he is fun for that. What I miss is quite painting and fairy play etc. Right now they on the floor in front of me play fighting. That's great too. It's just the noise! Mostly the constant giggling by the one while the other one shouts. I imagine my girl would be watching with me on the sofa while knitting or sewing but she would probably be at the bottom of a bundle ripping the boys hair out in reality.

[deaks66]

oooooh deaks definitely!! Guess where i am heading friday.....HERTS to pick up my buggy :D yay for the OPKS hope they get darker x

oooo where abouts? not that id be able to meet up, heading to cambridgeshire for a funeral :(

[Babymad]

Littlemiss - same here i didnt have book in till later - they dont do it early here and my scan came through quickly x HUGS for the hangover sickness x thats what i was like with ds1 & 2 x it got worse with 3 and this one was more physical!!!

Inglewood - you shouldnt ever feel guilty for getting your girls you deserve them totally x that poor mum - i know how she feels!! am sure we all do - i feel more pressure this time though and with every boy i produce to produce a girl. Even at the funeral yesterday it was my main topic of questioning :(

Babymad - milton keynes hun :D anytime ......definitely think a wells meet up needs to be done in the summer though...sounds like quite a lot of us will be able to make that. Very jealous of caravan - would looooove one....although i have threatened to get one paint the interior totally cath esque and go live it in when boy numero 4 arrives!

sunset - cant believe serena is 3 weeks old already little girly is so beautiful though

Hello 6happysons - welcome and highfive to you and your brood x FX for you and pink

Indigo - oooooh very jealous you and maybes coffee meet :D sounds lovely glad you had a good time and ds behaved too :D

I am starting to believe less in swaying the more i read lol - a couple of sites I have read stories of multiple attempts and with no success x maybe its just fate after all x

LOL I will defo be joining you!! DH did my head in tonight....gets in from work stays 30 mins then back out to a football meeting....hormonal or not he does my nut in!
I think a Wells meet up would be fab..... :)

[Babymad]

Just a quicky to see how you are doing babymad. You know if you live anywhere near hertfordshire, i would be more than happy for you to come over to mine for a cuppa and a hug...and i genuinely mean it! Wish i would make all this easier for you. Got my +opk today i think. lunchtime was just a shade off so im expecting it will be + by tonight. Sorry for the sickness LMW. Lavender you made me laugh about ticker anonymous! X

I could do with lots of tea and cuddles x I am in the midlands - I reckon the Wells meet up for the summer is a defo :)
Yay for the +OPK :) Are you counting 36 hrs from now? x

[deaks66]

I could do with lots of tea and cuddles x I am in the midlands - I reckon the Wells meet up for the summer is a defo :)
Yay for the +OPK :) Are you counting 36 hrs from now? x

ar yeah bit far from the midlands...wells it is!

so i got my offical +opk just now but it was almost + at 1pm so i reckon my surge was nearer then. I take quite a while to ov after my lh surge so i should really be counting at least 40hrs but that is going to land right in the daytime and my bd hours are only 8pm til 6am so im pretty much screwed! will either have to bd early and risk bding over ov or bd late and risk missing the egg altogether. Have had my usual phone call begging dh to take a day off... but it never works :(

[Kell]

Wow you guys have been busy today!

Deaks where abouts in Herts are you? I'm in Stevenage, small world! We also looked at a few places in Bedford/ Biggleswade but haven't acted on them, need to get a decent deposit together :(

Inglewood hope the scan went ok!

Babymad hope things get easier soon!

Maybe lol I could see myself going for 15 without meaning to! And she was talking about 16/17 with her daughter! Crazy lady!! I suppose with that many kids what one or two more gonna hurt!

Nothing to report here really, feeling less and less sick which is good! I'm busy trying to arrange 13 grandchildren ranging from 28-9 months old to get a picture of us all together for my nan's 80th birthday in a couple of week! You have no idea how difficult it is to get us all together! Will be worth it tho!
I've also managed to get ds2 out of the cot and into the bottom bunk so far so good 4 nights and no waking! He's actually been sleeping better!
Thats it I think!

[indigoviolet]

i feel more pressure this time though and with every boy i produce to produce a girl. Even at the funeral yesterday it was my main topic of questioning :(


I am starting to believe less in swaying the more i read lol - a couple of sites I have read stories of multiple attempts and with no success x maybe its just fate after all x

It is such hard work having to fend off people's comments all the time, even at a funeral,goodness! feels like you always have to be on the ball and ready with a quick answer. such a shame you have to feel the pressure (like you said, we all do more or less), it is all other people.

re the swaying, in a way it is reasurring to think there is nothing we could have done, then you can't blame yourself but it is also a bit depressing that you really can't do anything to sway your odds. I do believe in certain things like the LE diet etc but wish I didn't as I was SO bad on it....oh well, nothing i can do now...

are you still feeling rubbish? I'm on a really bad patch at the moment, 12 weeks tomorrow so hopefully will start to emerge from this awful, depressing, non-stop sickness.

[indigoviolet]

LMW - sorry you are feeling rubbish, it sucks doesn't it? I'm sure it will all be worthwhile :) Hope the appt goes well, makes it all seem very real when you have that first appt.

Deaks- soooo frustrating with the timings, kmfx that it works out for you this month.

[Babymad]

Babymad - it's hard avoiding pink and little girls and girly things. Next is a no go for me some days. Oh and the kids section in monsoon! Do you a sister or girlie friend? I keep reminding myself I have a lovely sister who loves the spa and shopping. My mum on the other hand detests shopping! She tuts if she has to queue for more than one minute ( why???? Your retired woman!!! What else have you to rush off for???) she also hates spending money and when I tell her how much things cost she asks if I am loaded! '£3 for a sandwich?? You must be loaded!!! £1 for a cup of tea??? You must earn a fortune???' me ' er no - where do you live? The moon!' takes the fun out of shopping trip with her!

If you love the girlie things you don't exclusively need a dd for that. The other things are a bit more tricky. My son loves shoes and buying shoes so he is fun for that. What I miss is quite painting and fairy play etc. Right now they on the floor in front of me play fighting. That's great too. It's just the noise! Mostly the constant giggling by the one while the other one shouts. I imagine my girl would be watching with me on the sofa while knitting or sewing but she would probably be at the bottom of a bundle ripping the boys hair out in reality.

Thats lovely that you are close to your sister :) Shame that its not quite the same with your mum though.
Unfortunatley im not close to me family (long story) I haven't seen my dad for many many years and its been 4 yrs or so since I last saw my mum, although we haven't lived with each other since I was 14 so our relationship has never been a close one. I do have a brother and we do get along but he's in Liverpool so we don't see each other very often. I do miss having a family. I would have loved to have a sister. My friends have always been my family.

The play fighting and noise drives me mad at times, I would live to sit down and draw and paint nails and play with hair! Thats why i've never understood why I was blessed with boys (apart from the obvious reason of course that DH's family are ALL male!) because I am so much more girly.

[indigoviolet]

Does anyone know about the ramzi theory thing (I know the basic left=girl etc) but with regard to looking at scan pics and interpreting? Anyway, have started a thread in ultrasound forum with my 7 week scan pics on if anyone has any ideas, would love some insight and possible gender guesses!
Got my 12 week scan next monday and seriously starting to obsess lol!

[Kell]

Babymad I know it's not going to make things better but from every girl mum I've ever spoke to I've heard that girls are so much more difficult than boys, I guess we all look at thing through rose tinted specs with regards to girls like painting, pretty princesses who are well behaved angles, but reality is always so different!
My neighbours girls are a nightmare, now I'm sure some of that is parenting skills but I think some of it is just being a diva!
I know it's no help but I have every faith our dreams are far from reality.

[indigoviolet]

Kell- you are so wise, keep it up, we all need to hear this, and often :)

[zanacal]

Good luck this month Deaks! We DTD early morning the day after I got my +OPK - no idea how close it was to O but I hope it's magic for you too if that's what you decide to do :D

[maybebabythree]

Just seen the end of 15 and counting. 19 hour labour for her 15 th baby??? Are you kidding! So much for it gets quicker each time! She must have an amazing pelvic floor! And they was both so glam! If I had that many kids my dh wouldn't come near me! I would be a mess.

Babymad sorry you don't have family close. I am lucky I have my sister. You will have your own amazing family added to soon and your boys can give you all the love you need

[Kell]

Maybe that's a really valid point actually! My dad had 3 girls me and my sisters, he always talked about wanting a boy but always in a joke kinda way so gd didn't seem that bad, but deep down I know he always wanted one!
Well he now has two grandsons from me, and he loves my boys! Honestly I never saw it till now but your so right! He got his boys just took longer than expected! And the best part he gets to hand them back when they play up hehe!
Dad will take ds1 out to do 'man things' and they both love the time together!

Have u got 15 and counting on series link? I just watched this weeks one, not quite so Glam in parts! And one woman had 12 girls!!!!

[Inglewood]

Babymad, sorry to hear about ur family, some of my Dh's family are estranged and it's complicated. Bet u have lots of girly friends though to hang out with and enjoy girl time. Most of my friends aren't really girly, so think I have 'lost touch' with that side of me having the boys. My closest friends are gay and now live in London, they don't have kids and are by no means 'girly'. We used to laugh on nights out, they were jeans and casual and I was lipstick and heels!! lol Changed days, my 'rare' nightout and I'm hunting my out heels! But we still have the pamper days together and I love my 'kinna girly' time with my friends, that's a special bond and since I never had a sister it's nice to have good friends. Shame mine live in London now!
As for the car, looking at s-max like u have, just not many about (looking for diesel). Have a horrible feeling won't have one by the time they come in 10/11wks. AHH!

Deaks, Fx for ur attempt! will u be setting an alarm?????

Sunset, what a lovely moment putting her in ur 'sway' outfit, bet u had a huge smile.

Babymad, I won't be (hopefully) as early as beg march, but def a month after. x

AFM, need to go back and read more, before posting...had 4 pages to read...lol
Had my scan and all was well. One baby is head down the other breech and twin 1 (breech) weighs approx 2lbs 1oz! They other just a liitle under...both seem happy and doing well. My mum was asking tons of questions, asking to see the 'girly bits' and was making me laugh....she doesn't hold back, but in a nice way, she's not loud or pushy, was just excited!! Bless her. Saw Consultant who pushed for my physio appt (Fri at 11am) as my back aches +++ and told her I have developed a varicose vein (downstairs!!)...just to keep an eye on it! She said I looked pale and being so tired they checked my bloods as they were missed weeks ago!!!!!!!!!!

[maybebabythree]

Yes kell I recorded them all. Looking forward to the 12 girl one - looks like hard work. I think the last one left me thinking I could 15 but in reality very few people could parent 15 that well. Made it look to easy! 15 teenagers is nightmare surely? Kids are like puppy's sometimes all cute until they get big and eat you out of house and home for ten years plus! My son already eats more than me and he's eight and about three stone of skin and bone! I couldn't Offord to feed 15. Strange as I guess the series is meant to shock but I am left in awe of them!

My mum only had us two girls. Lost three baby's including two boys after the both so she loves my boys. She has never said she hopes I have a girl. I know she understands though. We never talk about it but she understands I'm sure.

[Inglewood]

Kell, glad ds2 settling into a bed! A big thing for them...

Indigo and Maybe, how lucky u are to meet up, think I am the furthest away from anyone!! :(

LMW, ur ticker addiction is fab!

Charlie, hope u have had a better day?

Petal, how is ur little guy doing?

To everyone else I have missed.... "Hello" and hope ur all well....

Super awake tonight as I fell asleep on top of my bed due to backache whilst boys had tea after 6pm with Dh and he never woke me up! The boys gave me a kiss at 9pm and I had been asleep for 2 and a half hrs!!!! Will prob still sleep! Years of nightshift have made my sleeping patterns weird anyway! x

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood - glad the scan went well. Your vein sounds ouchy! The pain in my unmentionables is unbearable. That's why I'm not loving this pg. Never had this before and it hurts so much. Just realised yesterday I can't do a plank in yoga any more ( why I want to try is a mystery even to me) those mussels are gone now. Nothing holding my core together. Maybe hence more pain? Everything is sitting on my pelvic floor. Must be hard with twins

Lmw your ticker addition is more healthy than my pram one!

Deeks good luck this month.

Petal how is house hunting going?

Hello to everyone else should be asleep now up for work in six hours zzz

[Petal]

Hi, Inglelwood glad your little girls are doing well, wow 2lbs each is a great size! have you brought them any outfits yet? :-)

Sunset, How sweet your dd is in her swaying outfit, i never dared do that.. just as well too! haha.

Maybe, im the same as you when shopping, just look at the clothes that my little boy will wear, the girl things dont bother me at all! my boy cant wear them so i dont want them! although i bet in a year or so i'll start the 'girl dreaming' again!! lol.

Good luck deaks, this is your month, i can feel it!!!

How are you babymad? your pics on fb are so lovely, you can just feel all the love from those smiles :-))

Dh is away on a course until thursday so im home alone with the kids!! first night tonight ahhhhh lol, night all x x

[Wishing4Pink]

Wow you guys have been busy today!

Deaks where abouts in Herts are you? I'm in Stevenage, small world! We also looked at a few places in Bedford/ Biggleswade but haven't acted on them, need to get a decent deposit together :(

Inglewood hope the scan went ok!

Babymad hope things get easier soon!

Maybe lol I could see myself going for 15 without meaning to! And she was talking about 16/17 with her daughter! Crazy lady!! I suppose with that many kids what one or two more gonna hurt!

Nothing to report here really, feeling less and less sick which is good! I'm busy trying to arrange 13 grandchildren ranging from 28-9 months old to get a picture of us all together for my nan's 80th birthday in a couple of week! You have no idea how difficult it is to get us all together! Will be worth it tho!
I've also managed to get ds2 out of the cot and into the bottom bunk so far so good 4 nights and no waking! He's actually been sleeping better!
Thats it I think!

Great news that your ds2 is sleeping better now. Does he share with his brother? Just ask as your 2 have the same age gap as mine. My oh works just outside Stevenage, i often pop there to shop. Glad your feeling less sick now.

x

[Kell]

Oh wow wishing so they do, you know I didn't clock that! Yep they share a room, infancy until we get the loft conversion all the kids will share for a short period!
Small world huh! Where do you guys live? We could try and get out boys together some time! They can run round like but cases and we can not lol!

[deaks66]

Hi all, hope you are all well! Inglewood glad to hear those girlies are happy and healthy in there!

Maybe, sorry to hear you are in so much pain. Not long to go now though i exoect it feels like forever! I cant wait to see a pic of baby dave!

Hoping my attempt is tonight. So very nearly dtd this morning as had creamy cm in middle of night and had loads of pain yesterday but luckily we didnt as back to ew again today and opk still smiley. Think we will be attempting at 4am and 6am tomorrow morning unless my cm miraculously changes tonight! Finding the height of cp and texture tricky these days....god its all so booooring!

[deaks66]

chocolate, been meaning to thanks you for the clearblue digi's!! I seem to have spent a fortune on swaying (may as well have gone high tech!) so to get a freebie is amazing thanks!! X

[Inglewood]

Morning all!

Petal, I have bought them quite alot now, well it seems alot, but trying to think how many bodysuits, sleepsuits etc I will need a day/week... I will need and x2! Not cheap! Have bought tons of nappies, wipes, bibs etc...other mums think I'm prob crazy, been asking them how many nappies they go thru a day....lol trying to stock up before half pay kicks in at the end May. All the Baby events are the supermarket are great, but don't want to over-buy and people give gifts and I end up with too many of one size. Although my mum can swap for bigger sizes. People have been SO kind and given me buggies, car seats, nearly new baby clothes and my in-laws got our cot bed, mattress and divider. I feel so lucky as only have 1 of everything!. So far other than clothes I've bought all my Avent stuff half-price in mothercare's sale. Feels very odd buying for girls, was buying leggings for them with tops and thought why am I not buying dresses?? Not intentional, just think my brain is in trouser mode having boys! Got a few dresses now, but no skirts tho! Gonna clean my pram and try to sell it, prob won't get much, but every little helps and it's still in great condition considering both boys were in it.

Got all the Maternity paperwork from work thru, start mat leave 1st April-30th Sept, then I'll prob take a few wks annual leave, so back at work mid oct. Doesn't seem long! Wish I could afford to take a year off! They will be about 6/7mths when I go back, hoping they are in a decent routine for Dh as he'll have to get up thru the night himself with them then go to work himself!! Then I'll be sleep deprived all day waiting till he gets home to grap a few hrs kip unless they are good afternoon nappers? My boys were, but betcha this time these babies won't be!! lol

Deaks, FX for ur attempt!

Sunset, were u given steriods before Serena was born? was it to stop labour? My consultant told me yest she would give me some a week or 2 before twins come, she said she would explain better nearer the time. I'm guessing it's to either stop me going into labour myself and/or help babies pre-delivery???

Maybe, thankfully my vein 'downstairs' isn't sore, just hope it doesn't get worse! Not long now and urs will go! My mum said she had the same prob in pg and it went after birth. The joys!!

They move like mad these days and it's quite painful, esp the baby on my left (the smaller one!)...OMG can it kick!!! They are now lying like yin and yang again, so kicked up and down my bump. I was shocked they can still move, but oh yes and don't I know it!!!

Have a great day ladies!

[indigoviolet]

Glad your scan went well Inglewood, how cute, yin and yan!

Deaks- sending SO much good luck for our attempt FX this is your month!

[charlieispy]

Oooooooh inglewood so exciting! Sounds like you are getting organised but then you do need to be Eeeeeeeeeeee 2 babies so exciting! I think you should go buy some dresses though....thats an order you HAVE to PLEASE!!!! I always said if I ever had a girl I would go and buy the girliest frilliest OTT dress I could find just because i could!! Do it ;)

Deaks - FX for you attempt FX its the one :D

Petal - hope the boys behave whilst DH is away x x

Sorry cant remember all the posts am rubbish!!

maybe - hope you are ok and the pain eases up x

My back is starting to hurt it is only ever on the right side - it runs down my right hip, down to my toes x i also get carpal tunnel on my right side. Just feel like i am constantly moaning! First sickness, then headaches and I have a cold now...bleurgh poor DH is fed up with me! On a plus he felt the baby kick yesterday :D so precious and special

[chocolate]

Hi all, hope you are well.

Inglewood bet it does get expensive, at least they can share clothes but means you will need to wash and dry twice as fast! You gotta get some dresses, Id get them for young up to 9 months before they start crawling as a pain to crawl in them lol. You can do loads, shorts with tights or leggings, so cute!

My 8 week ish scan is tomoz night, thought I was picking up placenta noise on the doppler but dont think it was and I heard DS2's heartbeat at this stage and nothing so a bit concerned, but will see what happens, at least there def. was a heartbeat at 6 weeks so that hard part has been accomplished ifuswim.

Will post tomoz after the scan xx

[charlieispy]

chocolate - good luck for your scan x i only just found the HB at 9.5wks am sure all is ok you are still early x x

[chocolate]

Thanks Charlie - amazingly I just found it, 150 ish but very close to my louder artery or pulse so hard to hear and find, however found it for a minute so am so relieved!

[littlemisswilko]

yayyy for an onion charlie!!! :) although i bet it doesn't feel at all the size of an onion!!!

Inglewood! so pleased the scan went well! your babies are going to be so spoilt and bless your mam being so supportive and wanting to know everything's going to be fine! i bet she's over the moon!!!

deaks - fx for your attempt hunny. this certainly has to be your turn next! we seemed to have a great surge of bfps and none recently!!!

glad you found the HB chocolate! i have bought a doppler off ebay but havent yet paid for it! ooppps! :S are you paying for your 8 weeks scan?

got my first MW appointment tomorrow so hoping shes going to want to listenen to the heartbeat!


ohhh good luck at the scan tomorrow chocolate fx all goes well!

[Sunset]

Deaks, FX for ur attempt!
Sunset, were u given steriods before Serena was born? was it to stop labour? My consultant told me yest she would give me some a week or 2 before twins come, she said she would explain better nearer the time. I'm guessing it's to either stop me going into labour myself and/or help babies pre-delivery???


I was yes. I got given 2 shots 24 hours apart.. The steroid injection works by helping the baby's lungs to mature quicker so they're not as likely to suffer breathing problems if they're born early.

[Sunset]

My 8 week ish scan is tomoz night

good luck how exciting! will you get u/s pics?

[Sunset]

Hoping my attempt is tonight. So very nearly dtd this morning as had creamy cm in middle of night and had loads of pain yesterday but luckily we didnt as back to ew again today and opk still smiley. Think we will be attempting at 4am and 6am tomorrow morning unless my cm miraculously changes tonight! Finding the height of cp and texture tricky these days....god its all so booooring!

good luck hun!! i've got my fingers crossed for you!!

[Kell]

Charlie that sounds like SPD or sciatica (sp) poor thing!

I'm going crazy for fruit at the moment, today I've eaten two clementines an apple, banana and massive Bunch of grapes, it's gotta be really juicy or I'm not interested! Oh and now I've gone off chicken completely!!

My belly is starting to show a little now, do you know what the best time to feel the baby is when I've woken up first thing and I need the loo, my bump looks massive! I love it lol!

[chocolate]

Kell fruit cravings are a great girl sign! I've gone off coke which I craved with the boys but am getting my sweet tooth back! Yes I'm paying for the scan, travelling 45 mins for it but for 38 quid its worth it! Will get pics and see which side placenta is :-)

[Lavenderlime]

Kell that sounds so yummy really missing fruit, I'm so over a solid carb and dairy diet!

Littlemiss I was only teasing:) I'm just jealous, I can't wait to get my own pregnancy ticker!

Deaks good luck! You truely deserve the next BFP!

Chocolate enjoy your scan it will be lovely seeing your little bean!

Sorry to hear some of you are suffering with pregnancy aches and pains.

[Sunset]

I'm going crazy for fruit at the moment, today I've eaten two clementines an apple, banana and massive Bunch of grapes, it's gotta be really juicy or I'm not interested! Oh and now I've gone off chicken completely!!


Sounds very promising for pink! :) I was exactly the same in my girl pregnancy :) i still don't particularly like chicken lol

[maybebabythree]

Thinking about boy names - what do you think about sky and euan? I am a bit of a nature lover so sky is a good hippy name ( maybe not a great name for a middle aged man?) and euan can mean from the yew tree. Ds2 is also a tree. Love petals oakly and names like that. Ds1 and 2 are both Celtic names begining with r.

Think our parents would hit the roof with sky!

[charlieispy]

Charlie that sounds like SPD or sciatica (sp) poor thing!

I'm going crazy for fruit at the moment, today I've eaten two clementines an apple, banana and massive Bunch of grapes, it's gotta be really juicy or I'm not interested! Oh and now I've gone off chicken completely!!

My belly is starting to show a little now, do you know what the best time to feel the baby is when I've woken up first thing and I need the loo, my bump looks massive! I love it lol!

OMG i am on the fruit too its costing me a small fortune lol!! GRAPES yes please, cherries omg and strawberries....not to mention apples pears melon.....FX its a good sign!

I craved watermelon with ds3 but it was hot and summer by then! Oh and i HATE chocolate except white choc which normally i hate!

[charlieispy]

Sky is nice but i must admit the only skys i have known have been girls not that should put you off x i like euan too :D DH wants river for a boy raine for a girl! Dont worry about other people though go with what you like - geez we called ds3 indiana DH brother thought we were taking the piss, my dad didnt write his name in the congrats card as he thought we were joking most people were like WTF but i love it he is Indy most of the time well actually more indiana at the moment as i tend to call him that when he is naughty!!! He of course got about 4 whips and numerous indiana jones items i hope he doesnt hate me when he is older ;)

[Inglewood]

Oooooooh inglewood so exciting! Sounds like you are getting organised but then you do need to be Eeeeeeeeeeee 2 babies so exciting! I think you should go buy some dresses though....thats an order you HAVE to PLEASE!!!! I always said if I ever had a girl I would go and buy the girliest frilliest OTT dress I could find just because i could!! Do it ;)

Deaks - FX for you attempt FX its the one :D

Sorry cant remember all the posts am rubbish!!

maybe - hope you are ok and the pain eases up x

My back is starting to hurt it is only ever on the right side - it runs down my right hip, down to my toes x i also get carpal tunnel on my right side. Just feel like i am constantly moaning! First sickness, then headaches and I have a cold now...bleurgh poor DH is fed up with me! On a plus he felt the baby kick yesterday :D so precious and special

I will...PROMISE! I too get Carpal Tunnel and it's horrible, it's getting worse each week and I have to sleep with my hand splints, which does help. It's my Right hand too! My friend has hip pain like urs and she waited so long to see the pyhsio it's eased a bit, so FX urs does too. She's now 22wks pg. x

[Inglewood]

Chocolate, enjoy ur scan!! You will have to post a pic! x

LMW, hope ur appt goes well, makes it so much more 'real' after that 1st appt!! x

Sunset, Thanks, thought it would be because of their lungs being born at 36wks.

Just watched OBEM, what did u all think of it? Betcha that girl regrets saying she would be dissapointed to have another girl when her wee girl watches it years later and asks why she said that!

[Lavenderlime]

I like Sky, I only know female Sky's as Charlie has said but it can be a unisex name as I know a female Sam, George and Jaimie I actually really like boy names on girls. And a male Jude which I always thought of as a female name even with Jude Law being so famous. I guess most names have a male and female equivalent especialy on the contanant. Charlie I know an Indiana! He's two and his brother is Artimous (sp?) Indy and Arto for short. I love hippy/unusual names. I love Valentine for a boy but DH would never allow it so I used it for one of our cats instead! Could talk about baby names all day. Maybe that's why some mum's have so many haha actually think I'd run out by number 15!

[pinga]

Hi all....

just been skimming through all the posts!!!!

We just got back from our camping trip - went to Apollo Bay a beautiful spot on the south coast. I'm completely knackered but we had a fantastic time. DS1 loved building sandcastles and my little daredevil was straight in the water - it was freezing... but didn't stop him. The only problem was they woke up sooooo early with the sun. I was asleep by 9.30pm every night :)

Thanks everyone for your kind comments... I miss my Mum every day... my Dad too. Sometimes it feels very unfair. I miss just being able to talk to them.

Babymad - Still thinking of you. Hope the heartache eases a little soon. Just feel what you need to feel. I bet your little DS will be ultra sweet to show you that boys are great! :) Hugs to you...

Lavender - Valentine was my uncles middle name - he was born on Valentines Day though :)

DH turned round the other day and said we really can't use a particular name. I've been concerned that it wouldn't work with my the other boys names but I still LOVE it. Now that he said its a no-no. If this is a boy it will seriously have NO NAME! Oh well practically halfway... give us a bit of time to "discuss".

Anyways I have a huge pile of washing after our holiday!!

[Sunset]

I love Sky, it's such a beautiful name :) :agree: i don't think i've ever heard of a boy with that name though, but it can definitely be a unisex name.

[Sunset]

Baby Serena this morning! she's now in newborn sizes :HH:

1240

[Inglewood]

Sunset, super cute!!!! Looks so content sleeping away, busy day for her so far!! lol xx

Pinga, glad u had a great camping trip, my boys would LOVE it! Dh takes them camping with his brother, but believe me it's rough camping in the woods with the midgies, back to basics with no luxuries!! But they love it!! Not me, I stay at home, not a camping girl. Now I have an excuse not to go....
My Ds2 didn't have a name until he was 3 days old, I find boys names tough as Dh and I have different taste in names. FX it's girls names ur choosing soon! When is ur scan, next wk?

[Sunset]

Pinga, glad u had a great camping trip, my boys would LOVE it! Dh takes them camping with his brother, but believe me it's rough camping in the woods with the midgies, back to basics with no luxuries!! But they love it!! Not me, I stay at home, not a camping girl. Now I have an excuse not to go....


i cant wait for the day when my dh takes the boys "rough camping" i'm sure they will absolutely love it :D

i've been to the gp this morning and my BP is nice and low so i'll be cutting down to only two tablets a day and hopefully i will be completely off the medicines in 2 weeks :D

[suregena]

I like Sky, I only know female Sky's as Charlie has said but it can be a unisex name as I know a female Sam, George and Jaimie I actually really like boy names on girls. And a male Jude which I always thought of as a female name even with Jude Law being so famous. I guess most names have a male and female equivalent especialy on the contanant. Charlie I know an Indiana! He's two and his brother is Artimous (sp?) Indy and Arto for short. I love hippy/unusual names. I love Valentine for a boy but DH would never allow it so I used it for one of our cats instead! Could talk about baby names all day. Maybe that's why some mum's have so many haha actually think I'd run out by number 15!




My close family friend (male) is called Sky and my cousin's son is called Jude. :)

[Inglewood]

Think my ticker has frozen! has changed in weeks but not in Veg!! lol Should be a lettuce head......he hee

[Sunset]

inglewood after so many weeks it stops changing evey week but stays on certain vegs for several weeks before changing again so i think your babies will be the size of an eggplant for a while :P

[Inglewood]

Didn't a famous fashion person call her baby boy Skylar?? Quite like that too! Used to work with a girl called Jude, but definelty a unisex name.

Yip ticker defo stuck...tried re-loading it and stuck on Aubergines....lol

Have woke up after a 2hr nap! Was exhausted and wouldn't be surprised if my Haemoglobin is low! The boys have a birthday party after school and Dh working till 7pm, so can potter about in peace a bit longer on they have gone to party.

[charlieispy]

oooooh love skylar!!!

[Lavenderlime]

I did a baby prediction last week and got girl for my next baby BFP/conceive in August 2012 or EDD of August 2013. If - have a 4th it will be a boy.

Did you ever get yours back littlemiss?

[Kell]

I like the name sky, but like most haven't heard it as a boys name, I like it!

I just watched one born, the lady in the birthing pool was so quick!! She was gutted about having another girl, even apologised to her son!
I thought the disabled lady was lovely! And she coped so well in labour! I was so pleased to see how she was getting on after as well! And what a loving supportive husband she has!

[charlieispy]

I brought a tarot reading from cara last week still waiting to hear back......YAY for PINK prediction

[littlemisswilko]

I did a baby prediction last week and got girl for my next baby BFP/conceive in August 2012 or EDD of August 2013. If - have a 4th it will be a boy.

Did you ever get yours back littlemiss?

who did you get the predicition off? did try to buy one but my stupid paypal didnt work. hence why i havent yet paid for the doppler i bought off ebay! keep meaning to get dp to sort it so i can actually use it but keep forgetting

[Sunset]

charlieispy wow 17 weeks!!!! nearly halfway :)

[Inglewood]

LOVING 'Call the midwife' series, finally got round to wataching first 2 episodes today! I have the book, but got about 1/4 of the way thru it and now it's been so long I'd have to start again. x

Anyone have any mad cravings??? I wouldn't say they are 'cravings' but I love Pistachio nuts, salad cream and pepsi max...things I can honestly say I've never bothered with much before. Not a huge nut fan or fizzy juice and don't think I have had salad cream for years!!!! Oh and eat tons more tomatoes!! x

[Lavenderlime]

Littlemiss I got my reading from TTCbabylovepredictions. I got the link from the thread on here. I got the reading for $5 but because she took a week to reply to me she did my my next two children instead of just my next child.
Do let us know what you here back when paypal is up and running.

Charlie good luck with your reading, I'll be really interested to see what they come back to you with. I really want to have a reading in RL My MIL went to an evening and the lady was really accurate calling her by her name before addoption which very few people know and said kots if other correct things. A weird thing she said was does your son have a daughter which she replied no and she said she could see a little giril and that he would have a daughter and she would be planned.Tthis was about the time when I first looked into swaying which nobody knew about. But MIL thought she was talking about DP's older brother who she had mentioned earlier in the reading and had got lots of things correct about him (He has no kids ans him and his long term GF have no immediate plans for kids) really hope it was about DP. Think I'm Going to go and see her for a private reading.

I've missed call the midwife can't wait to catch up on iplayer when we get the net back.

[indigoviolet]

Chocolate- good luck for your scan hon, I'm sure you'll have a lovely experience and hopefully get some nice pics.

Charlie- I've got the same pain down the leg from the hip, sometimes by the evening can hardly walk, so painful, ugh!

got work tomorrow so off to bed soon, soooo tired, catch up with you all tomorrow:HH:

[chocolate]

Hey all just a quick one, scan showed bubs is there and growing so very happy! She thought placenta to right so = boy!! But she seemed confused about how to tell which side so not thinking much of if it is to the right - but I do now think boy and am ok with that, feel no different. Placenta is to the front so hard to hear heartbeat too