April/May/June 14 swayers...

[SpicyTunaSushi]

It would be my third cycle post m/c (as I am in my second right now). My AF returned pretty soon after my m/c (27 days). DH has a mild fever again today, so we will definitely wait. Our first attempt will be around mid-late May. I am frustrated as life keeps throwing trials our ways, but I need to get DH healthy again and move on. Doing the HE way of life is easier for me, so I'll just cut back calories to my usual 1900ish and bump it up 6 weeks before attempt.

[o18e]

I can't remember the name of the study either unwirklich but I will keep looking too.
I had a bad cheating weekend too. I am sorry to hear about your husband Spicy. I am planning my attempt for May also. :) I went to visit my BIL at the cancer center and he looks great and is doing really well. And my sister gave birth to her 2nd little girl on friday! She named her Liberty. I snuggled her and soaked up her sweetness as much as I could yesterday. Today I hoped back on the LE wagon.

[atomic sagebrush]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/1693-seasons-swaying.html link to at least one of the studies is in here

But don't read too much into this - I got two of my boys in the "girl peak" and my girl in the "boy peak".

[marriedmomof2]

Spicy sorry to hear about your dh I hope he feels better soon
O18e glad to hear that your bil is doing well! Awww and a new niece! Congrats!

[unwirklich]

Yeah, I'm not sure how much stock I put in the seasons thing. I live in Alaska, it's cold here 8 months of the year, yet our population is actually higher in men than women. All three of my boys were born when it is really, really cold here. To get a baby born during a warm period in AK you'd have like..hmm.. 2 months to conceive, July or August. I didn't plan for April just to get the "prime" girl month based on that study, it just happened to line up that way lol

[daisymoo]

O18e congrats on your little niece How sweet! And great that your bil is doing good.
Spicytuna You're probably better off to wait until your husband is back to full health, that way you can be sure that you did everything perfectly for your sway. I'm sure your poor dh might not be up to dtd at the moment anyway so you may have no choice!!! I would love a xmas baby though What a present!
Unwirklich, Two of my boys were conceived in July and August (hot) and the third guy was in March (warm) so it's probably 50/50 with each month I think. You poor guys get rough weather in Alaska don't ye? Does it get much hotter during those two months?
Marriedmom when are you going to have your first attempt?

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[bluebonnet22]

Thanks for all the great ideas re: sharing dinner with the family. I'm starting to get really excited about starting LE next week! This week I'm eating all of my meaty favorites for the last time for 10 weeks. I'll miss meat, but if this diet makes me thin (and sways pink!) I'm ok giving up the meat for awhile.

[bluebonnet22]

I should have put this in my last post, but I have a question for you ladies. My BFF is getting married in September and asked that I put off TTC until after her wedding. I have ALWAYS dreamed of a spring baby (March, April, May!) and would love a 2.5 year gap between my DS1 and this baby . I'm in the wedding. Am I a bad friend for going against her wishes?

[Boysway]

Spicy, yes I would wait. Your poor dh, he can't catch a break. I hope his pain is sorted easily and his illness buggers off. Sending healing thoughts.

o18e, so glad to hear your BIL looks well :D Yay for a new niece. I have a niece due next month :) My youngest is so cute, she can't wait till her new cousin arrives. She still tells me she wants a baby.

AFM: Very strange this morning. I have cramping. I went to the bathroom and *TMI* had a chunk of cm tinged with old blood. I haven't had a +OPK just my fade in as my OPK's get darker over days till I get my +OPK. I am wondering if I might get my +OPK this afternoon. I have been reading over my old charts and I had the same thing happen the cycle I fell pregnant with Miss 3.

[Boysway]

bluebonnet, oh that is a tough one. Are the dresses fitted or is there movement in them?

[bluebonnet22]

bluebonnet, oh that is a tough one. Are the dresses fitted or is there movement in them?

They havent' selected them yet! I'm hoping maybe if I try on the dress soon and then lose a bunch of weight on the LE diet that maybe it will still fit (or wouldn't be too bad) in September as I would only be 1, 2 or 3 months pregnant (at the most!) and hopefully would just be regaining the weight I lose on LE.

Probably just wishful thinking.. ! It's definitely risky!

[Boysway]

It does come down to your choice though, it is a very tough one. My cousin fell pregnant with her 3rd bub (she thought it would take a while). She is due the week after my cousins wedding but, having a c/s due to being high risk. My cousin wasn't terribly happy about it but, it's not like she had a choice in the matter. Did your friend give a reason for her not wanting you to be pregnant at her wedding other than you being in the bridal party?

[unwirklich]

Daisymoo, We've actually been getting hit like a freight chain by climate change. When I was a little kid AK was warm basically in June and July and then the warmest you saw was about 60 F. We've broken heat records pretty much solid all this last year though. This last summer the snow took a bit to melt, but our summer lasted from late may to late august and the temp skyrocketed to 90F+ in our peak month. This winter has been warm as well hanging around 20 F rather than the -20 F we normally see in the cold months. Anyone who thinks our climate is not changing just needs to have a lookskie at historical temp data from up here. I for one am not amused, they confirmed ticks and the brown recluse brought up by tourists both survived the winter this year.

Bluebonnet: I lost 5 lbs in the first week even not cutting meat, but going forward I've noticed the exercise seems to make a huge difference and if I have "cheater" days about once a week it seems I lose more. Maybe it keeps your metabolism revved up? Not sure. And what a horribly selfish request of your friend to make. I don't think it makes you a bad friend to ignore her request, I think she was being a bad friend asking you to do that. They make many dress styles that look fabulous on pregnant women.

[daisymoo]

Wow that is definitely the results of climate change Bit scary really isn't it?
Bluebonnet that is a very strange request for a friend to make. I would definitely ask her why she has asked you this to see if you can work out what the problem is. Getting pregnant is a very personal thing and the timing of it should only be discussed with your dh or partner. If it's about the dress I have seen lots of beautiful pregnant bridesmaids. Does your friend have any kids herself?

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[Boysway]

argh!!! Have really heavy rainfall here with localised flooding. Dh had to be towed home as he tried to drive through water but, it was deeper then he thought. As a result the car wouldn't start/ We're hoping the car will dry out by the morning. The rain shows no signs of letting up though :( I also dropped my Samsung and cracked the screen top left corner pretty bad. Oh the joys!

[marriedmomof2]

Boysway I am sorry that happened, my dh did that a few years ago, his car was fine after about a week, haven't had any issues since then. Sorry about your phone, I hate when that happens.
Bluebonnet, no you would not be a horrible friend for ignoring her request, it is none of her business when you and your partner ttc. As long as you aren't trying to give birth at the wedding, I don't see the problem personally. I think she was wrong for even suggesting that, but that's my opinion.
For those of you doing a pink sway and using fiber, what brand of fiber are you taking? The chitosan or something different?

[bluebonnet22]

Thanks for the responses ladies! She doesn't want me to be pg at her wedding because she wants me to drink and "be fun". She doesn't have children herself so I don't think she really understands what a big request putting off TTC for 6 months is when you are ready! At the most I would be 3 months pg at her wedding, so definitely won't be huge and would definitely be able to attend.

marriedmomof2 - I bought generic metamucil pills (psyllium husks) but I have been too scared to take them! (I officially will be starting diet/pills next week on April 1). I'm curious if i should switch to chitosan because that seems to be more popular around here.

[unwirklich]

Marriedmomof2, I just use generic Kroger no-sugar fiber. I asked Atomic if it really made a difference what brand we used, because it seemed everyone used Chitosan or benefiber. She said that while there were not stats on individual brands, as long as the fiber you are using doesn't have added nutrients and is just fiber, there wasn't any reason one brand would work better than another. The Kroger kind is like $10 less than benefiber too. That right there was enough to sell me lol

Boysway, generally with water damage it really depends how high the water got when the car was running. If it managed to intake water (through the air intake system), the engine is basically shot, otherwise it could just be wet connections or even a dead battery. If it doesn't even click may try a jump start and see if that fixes it.

Bluebonnet, wow! I'm pretty sure that you can be fun while both sober and pregnant. Maybe just have a heart to heart with her, as your BFF your wants should help her understand and if she really cares I can't see her getting upset.

[marriedmomof2]

Thanks for the responses ladies! She doesn't want me to be pg at her wedding because she wants me to drink and "be fun". She doesn't have children herself so I don't think she really understands what a big request putting off TTC for 6 months is when you are ready! At the most I would be 3 months pg at her wedding, so definitely won't be huge and would definitely be able to attend.

marriedmomof2 - I bought generic metamucil pills (psyllium husks) but I have been too scared to take them! (I officially will be starting diet/pills next week on April 1). I'm curious if i should switch to chitosan because that seems to be more popular around here.
Bluebonnet thanks! when is your first attempt? I am starting full on diet, supplements and exercise on Monday, March 31st, so I have to go buy supplements, today! I tried to a few weeks ago and walked out of the store with everything except the supplements I originally went in there to get. Oh and I think if you explain to your friend that this means a lot to you she will understand.
unwirklich! Lol I understand and thanks!

[bluebonnet22]

Marriedmomof2 My first attempt should be around June 15th, so 10 weeks on the diet for me (at least, probably more!), what about you?

[marriedmomof2]

Marriedmomof2 My first attempt should be around June 15th, so 10 weeks on the diet for me (at least, probably more!), what about you?

Around the same. My last menstrual cycle with stopping bcp will be May 29-31 so whenever I ovulate after that I am hoping to catch that egg.

[Rosie85]

Blue- I would ignore her request. I think it is silly. Being only up to 3 months pregnant, you would still be small. As long as the dress has a little give it will be all good.

I am using chitosan for my fiber.

[daisymoo]

Me too Find Chitosan great as there is zero taste!
For all the girls having their attempt in June eat as much as you can now as you will be starving on the le diet! Or maybe it's just me. Af is due tomorrow so I seem to find myself starving these last few days and I'm trying to be strict as my first attempt is next week.
Boysway that's such a bummer about your car Hope it's fixable.
By the way which antihistamine are you girls using?

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[Rosie85]

I have zyrtec that I will be using.

oh boysway I am so sorry about your car! What a bummer.


I am starting to get nervous ladies! Only a week until April, which is when I really buckle down. We are going to go broke buying all the wine I need, haha.

[bluebonnet22]

I plan on using zyrtec also. The only supplements I a plan on doing are - OLE (pill form, DH won't do liquid), zyrtec for both (DH takes it everyday anyway, no idea if that matters!), fiber, folic acid, and peppermint tea when I remember.

I'm hoping just the diet, one attempt, and FR works with little supplements!

Sorry if TMI, but what is everyone using for lubrication during the attempt? Sylk?

[daisymoo]

Ok zyrtec seems like the best bet so I'll buy that in the next few days. Because I'm 38 Atomic has suggested that I only use it day of attempt and not daily as I may not get pregnant and also suggested to maybe only try jellies once but I think I may leave them out altogether. But have seen a lot of girls use silk so may be a good option for you. Oh and my dh was taking a small dose ole for a few weeks but had to give it up due to bad headaches So looks like all the swaying pressure is on me alone!!! :confused:

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[Rosie85]

blue- we are not doing many supplements either. Dh is doing OLE and LR and will take the zyrtec as well. I am only doing fiber and folic acid. Oh and the zyrtec for me as well.
I am focusing more of my sway on the one attempt, the exercise and low blood sugar levels and the use of alcohol and a different position of conceiving which will be in the shower after hot baths.

In my opinion the supplements aren't getting good enough results that make me want to make sure I include them. The diet and such is much more important in my opinion. It makes sense if you think about it because women who conceive girls naturally without swaying aren't taking anything. If you ask about their lifestyle it will be the diet you find that naturally swayed, or their exercise routine or the way they conceived.

[marriedmomof2]

I am using Zyrtec, it's pretty much a staple in our house around this time. I am going to take it the next few days to see how it works in drying me up (sorry tmi)
Bluebonnet, I am using Sylk since it's said to be girl friendly.
Rosie[/B]: good luck and you have this! Lol at the wine!
If anyone is using rephresh, when are you starting it? I was thinking maybe a full month before our first attempt.
I'm still not sure if I want chitosan (which I'd have to order from Walgreens online) or Metamucil that I can go buy today.
Oh and dh is doing OLE, and Zyrtec (he doesn't know about swaying)
I am doing Zyrtec, fiber, folic acid, maybe Benadryl

[unwirklich]

Another for Zyrtec, I have some benydrel (sp?) for the attempt day if I need it too. I had planned Zyrtec 5 days prior then benydrel the day of, but now I added clomid and I've never taken it before. I hear it can dry things up almost too much all by itself.

I'm doing the fiber, pregnitude, cinnamon, baby aspirin, and vitex and SP until CD 1 then switching to clomid on day 4. Crazy how fast the weeks went by. I started the LE diet/exercise in early jan dreading how far off my attempt was, but it just flew. I should O around April 8th and if AF comes on time and am successful this cycle, I'll have a new years eve due date :D

[marriedmomof2]

For the cinnamon are you taking the cinnamon supplement?
Another for Zyrtec, I have some benydrel (sp?) for the attempt day if I need it too. I had planned Zyrtec 5 days prior then benydrel the day of, but now I added clomid and I've never taken it before. I hear it can dry things up almost too much all by itself.

I'm doing the fiber, pregnitude, cinnamon, baby aspirin, and vitex and SP until CD 1 then switching to clomid on day 4. Crazy how fast the weeks went by. I started the LE diet/exercise in early jan dreading how far off my attempt was, but it just flew. I should O around April 8th and if AF comes on time and am successful this cycle, I'll have a new years eve due date :D

[daisymoo]

Ha Rosie I've being downing a large glass of white wine four nights a week Big difference for me I would normally only drink every few weeks Loving that part of the le diet!! Enjoy the wine part!


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[daisymoo]

Marriedmom my dh doesn't know about swaying either so if it's a girl it'll be wow! What a surprise!!!
Unwirklich I'm due to ovulate on 7 April so we could be having our babies same day!!

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[Rosie85]

daisy do you think doing the wine for two weeks is enough or should we start it sooner?? It makes me nervous to drink alcohol so often but if two weeks won't be enough I will have to reconsider.

[Rosie85]

I think its crazy some of your dh's don't know about the swaying, not that there is anything wrong with them not knowing of course. For me and my Dh we talk about it all the time and I probably drive him nuts! I am glad I have him to talk to and annoy. A lot of my other family knows too, I am pretty open about things and have a hard time keeping a secret, haha.

[unwirklich]

marriedmom, they are capsules. I got them off amazon pretty cheap, I think 300 pills (150 day supply) was like $12 with amazon prime shipping. Makes it an easy add in to help with the blood sugar.

Rosie My DH thinks it hiiiillllllarious to tease me with tasty meat stuffs, but other than that he doesn't really know anything about swaying. I've tried to explain it to him, but you can tell he doesn't listen to any of it. I get a lot of, "Ah, ok yeah makes sense, if you think it'll work" comments. Luckily it seems the male factor is less important in the sway world.

Daisy Nice :) :fx: for us. This wine thing is new too me. I know I saw booze in the stats file but there was so little data I guess I just sort of ignored it. I'm not a wine person, but I love a good vodka, that'd be an easy addition to any sway lol. Is there a thread on alcohol and swaying someplace?

[daisymoo]

Rosie not sure how about how long before sway to start alcohol. I have just seen in most peoples sway that they have a couple of drinks a week. I started one glass a night four nights a week a few weeks ago. I don't think you'd be doing much harm with one glass a night if you wanted to start now. It could only help really I think. I wouldn't do seven nights a week maybe 3 or 4. I'm no expert on this Just doing what I think is right for my sway! And it is really relaxing after looking after three boys all day!
Unwirklich I just picked up all the alcohol stats from all the posted sways. I think it can only help.our sways if anything :)

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[daisymoo]

Sorry again! Meant to add that I think vodka is even better than wine in a sway So good for you!

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[Rosie85]

I think we were planning on 4 nights a week or so and then on night of attempt to have a drink before and after attempt but with hard liquor instead of wine. I have heard many a story where people had girls when they attempted nights they were drinking. I never did with my other three so it def couldn't hurt my sway!

[unwirklich]

2/3 of my boys were actually conceived on new years so I can promise I was plowed. lol but then it can't hurt, I'd imagine it helps with stress if nothing else.

[Boysway]

Bluebonnet, you don't need to drink to have fun and being pregnant doesn't mean you can't have fun.

married, Looks like dh is up for a new car. Water is even in the air filter. I have ordered a new glass face for my phone from Ebay. Hopefully it isn't too difficult to change.

unwirklich, water was up to the bonnet, it's a sedan. Dh had a closer look this morning. He pulled out the air filter which was filled with water. Looks like we are up for a new work car. He is borrowing FIL's car but only has it till the weekend, it's Tuesday now.

AFM, I know you're not supposed to test early in the morning with OPK's but, I did anyway. I tested at 8:15am. If it's not a +OPK then it's one shade off the control line. Looks like I won't be having a super long cycle again. If that's the case, as long as my cycle is similar next month, ovulation will be around the 25th. If we are successful with a bfp, I will be due 10 days before my nephews birthday. Funny thing, SIL is due for her second bub 10 days after my little one's 4th birthday :)

[marriedmomof2]

Daisy, lol I had him ready to take OLE went to the store just a bit ago and brought it home, now he's like he is not taking it... OMG what am I going to do with this man!
Rosie, if he knew he would probably pull the plug on swaying, he feels as though whatever we get it shouldn't matter, which it doesn't in the end, at all, but I would love to have a daughter.
As far as drinking, I am doing beer, I am not a wine girl (unless I mix it with apple cranberry juice, Pinterest recipe) and I surely can't do vodka lol.
boysway that's not fun! Well new cars are always fun but not under these circumstances. Glad you can get your screen off if eBay though!

[unwirklich]

boysway, man that sucks..no surer way to kill an engine. Do you have insurance? I'd bet they'd cover that as a "act of god."

[marriedmomof2]

Boysway, When my husband flooded his car it was covered under comprehensive. They totaled his car out because the cost to replace the carpet and seats that also got wet, and flushing the engine and etc would have cost $7,000. We only got about $6,000 for the car but owed $1,000.
So it's worth calling your insurance company just in case.

[Boysway]

Unfortunately, my ever so intelligent husband DIDN'T have insurance. Not happy with that at all!!! Looks like we might be able to get him a small barina 1996 model, only 125,500 kilometers on it. $2300.

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[unwirklich]

I'd bet you could sell it to a salvage yard for something. Maybe not much, but something.

[Boysway]

The wreckers around here don't pay much for cars usually. I'll have a look around though. If anything, we should take the tyres off. They are pretty much brand new, heaps of tread on them. He better insure any new car we get though. Seriously, I can't believe he didn't.

[Boysway]

Hmmm, I think I just thought of a 'silver lining' to this car dilemma. My car is a station wagon. It only seats 5 people. We will need to buy a dickie seat, pay to have it fitted, then pay for an engineers certificate. I will suggest to dh that we look for a new car for me and he can use my wagon :)

[daisymoo]

You see boysway it all obviously happened for a very good reason!
Af arrived this morning so this is officially first day of my attempt month!!!!!!! Going to dtd cd6, 10, 14, 18. Fingers crossed it will work. Feels so strange to be doing this without being in top health. :rolleyes:

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[bluebonnet22]

boysway - sorry about your car! Hope you find a new one that's perfect!
daisymoo - GL this month, hope this month is your month!

My mom asked me when we were going to TTC #2 yesterday and I told her I was hoping for a 2.5 year - 3 year gap between kids and she freaked out and told me that was way too close and we should hold off for awhile.. *sigh* . I'm an adult , so I will do what I want, but it's a bummer I don't have her support.

[daisymoo]

Bluebonnet there's exactly 2.5 years between each of my three ds and it is perfect. I think they are really great buddies because they're all so close in age. I say go for it. I personally think it's easier to rear them all when they're all young together.

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[bluebonnet22]

Thanks daisymoo - I am hoping they will be closer growing up and play better together if they are a little closer in age. I'm assuming I'm going to have 2 DS (can't even imagine myself actually having a DD!), and I just imagine 2 boys being better friends with a smaller age gap (although I know there's no guarantee it will work out that way).

[marriedmomof2]

boysway that would be great if he let you do that.
daisy I hope this is your month!
Bluebonnet different strokes for different folks, do what works for you our youngest will be 6 when/if we conceive
Okay ladies so i bought the supplements last night, when should dh start taking OLE? either 2 months or 6 weeks before attempt? I think he will take it now, I went off this morning because his snoring had me up from 3:50 until 6:30am. So I was not a happy camper, it's only because of his allergies and if this helps that's great.

[marriedmomof2]

boysway that would be great if he let you do that.
daisy I hope this is your month!
Bluebonnet different strokes for different folks, do what works for you our youngest will be 6 when/if we conceive
Okay ladies so i bought the supplements last night, when should dh start taking OLE? either 2 months or 6 weeks before attempt? I think he will take it now, I went off this morning because his snoring had me up from 3:50 until 6:30am. So I was not a happy camper, it's only because of his allergies and if this helps that's great.

EDIT: No idea how or why this submitted twice.... sorry

[daisymoo]

Marriedmom your dh can start taking ole from now. Lets hope he sticks with it unlike my dh Men!!! :mad:

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[daisymoo]

Marriedmom your dh can start taking ole from now on Hope he sticks with it unlike my dh Men!!!

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[Rosie85]

yup OLE should be taken for at least 2 months out. Dh has been taking it for 3 months now, he has never missed a day. I took it once to try and help kick my respiratory infection...I have a new found love for my husband, holy crap...how can he swallow that stuff?!! It is beyond terrible.

[marriedmomof2]

Daisy that's how my dh will be lol
Rosie lol does it taste nasty? Is it the pill? Or the liquid.
Thanks ladies

[Rosie85]

Dh takes the liquid. It is BEYOND nasty and we have the flavored stuff to help cover up the bad taste. I don't want to know what the natural stuff tastes like.

[daisymoo]

My god Rosie your dh is a saint! He's so good isn't he? Aw!! My dh was taking the pill form I'm hoping the four or so weeks he was taking it will have some affect on our sway Doubt it though
Marriedmom maybe try the pill form and he might take it more easily for you!

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[daisymoo]

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[bluebonnet22]

We will also be doing the pill form of ole. DH wants another boy so I'm thrilled he's OK with doing the sway at all!

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[Rosie85]

daisy- yes!! he is a saint. I can't believe it! He also has taken the licorice root no problem and adheres to the diet as well. He will basically do as I tell him. He wants a DD soo bad! Hoping this all works!

I think the 4 weeks would have done something to the sperm but the effects won't last more than a month or two. Something is better than nothing!

The only thing DH has turned down is running 30 miles a week. He said there wasn't enough time for both him and me to exercise that much. He lets me go to the gym every night while he puts the boys all to bed. Oh I am one lucky gal!

[daisymoo]

That is one good husband!!

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[marriedmomof2]

Daisy I did buy dh the pills
Rosie , that is one good man :)
The only reason my dh cut down on the meat was because I stopped buying so much lol

[Boysway]

daisymoo, how exciting for you :) fingers crossed for a quick bfp. My dh was good with taking the meds now, I have troubles getting him to take them. I will admit, he does have quite a few to take. I keep telling him he won't have to take them for much longer.

bluebonnet, hey, it doesn't matter what other people think about the age gap. It's what you feel is right for your family. It is a shame you don't have her support though. I have two lots of parents. My Dad and DSM have pretty much nagged us for another grandchild. While the other parents Mum and DSD aren't keen on it. In fact, it was brought up the other day. Straight away Mum was saying, you don't have the room, what if you have a boy blah, blah, blah. My family, my life, mine and my husbands choice. But, yes it would be nice to know the support was there *hugs*.

AFM, Dh decided to get the Barina. Ah well, we will figure something out when the time comes.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Hi ladies. I'm reading, I promise. I just don't always keep up to post to everyone! Y'all are chatty (in a good way!) :)

Sorry to hear of the wrecked car. That isn't fun. We narrowly escaped a dead car today. Blew some fuse but it turned out to be fairly easy to replace. Whew.

My DD is having issues lately. Going to the doc again in the AM. Just a lot of generic symptoms all piled together, but pointing to nothing specific. She has a new rash all over now. I'm praying its not scarlet fever.

I HATE this winter. It's been nothing but issues for everyone in the fam. Good news is that the chiro has made a huge difference in my headaches, they are lessening in frequency and severity. We also found out that my DS2 can attend preschool next year...which is great! He is ready! But he originally missed the cut-off by 16 days. But they are making an exception since my older son goes there. He just needs to potty train over the summer! I'm hoping he is ready.

I ordered dh his OLE, have my supps. Starting lite LE dieting, won't go "hard-core" til May. We will try in July. Prolly late-July. Although maybe early if my ovulation moves that little bit. It was later this month, prolly cause everyone has been sick and stressed. I'm still rocking the 35 day cycles. Who here has lots (and lots) of CM? I know I'm planning on Zyrtec to help. But gosh, it's lots :(

[unwirklich]

Me, you know how places like Fertility friend say you should have dry days? No such thing lol I started taking the prenitude because of it actually..I'll have to see if I can find the thread, but Atomic had suggested some supplement for folks with high estrogen (I would assume that's what causes bountiful CM cycle round) and when I asked about it she recommended the pregnitude instead. It did indeed reduce things, not enough I don't think the antihistamines are still in my sway, but it did help.

[unwirklich]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl-best-practices/7108-saw-palmetto-peppermint-tea-licorice-root-depth-how-10.html#post527566 found it :)

[lyagirl]

Hang on... do you mean to tell me that wine sways girl???

I thought strictly no alcohol so haven't touched a drop of my beloved wine for weeks!!

[Rosie85]

there are ladies who sway with no alcohol and some that sway with it. If you have boys and were drinking wine consistently before I would drop it. If it wasn't a regular thing I would use it in your sway. I am going to drink wine 4-5 days a week for my sway. Just one glass a night.

[bluebonnet22]

Hang on... do you mean to tell me that wine sways girl???

I thought strictly no alcohol so haven't touched a drop of my beloved wine for weeks!!

Where did you read this? Everything I've seen seems to point towards alcohol swaying pink. Dh and I drink a bottle of wine a night. I'm about to go without for 9 months, I'm not about to give up early!

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[atomic sagebrush]

Where did you read this? Everything I've seen seems to point towards alcohol swaying pink. Dh and I drink a bottle of wine a night. I'm about to go without for 9 months, I'm not about to give up early!

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Some of the "old school" sway theories have alcohol swaying blue but I do not believe this is the case at all and we have had good results using alcohol for pink sways.

[Bloom4314]

Hi everyone,

I thought I would introduce myself as I've been reading this thread for a few days (I had posted in the July-Sep thread before realising it was the wrong one hehe).

We have four children (three here, one in heaven) - 2 girls who are 7 and 3, and 2 boys, almost 5 and our youngest that we lost at 19 weeks on the 4th March. So this will (God willing) be baby #5 for us :) When I was pregnant with our youngest son, I was happy for the baby to be any gender. But after we lost him, I realised just how desperately I wanted another son. My DH is happy for me to sway but he believes that God will give us the gender of baby He wants us to have. I'm happy to help God out if I can ;)

I just thought I would say hello as I felt like a bit of a stalker reading and not contributing, so hello :)

[daisymoo]

Welcome Bloom! Glad to have you aboard and best of luck!

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[bluebonnet22]

Welcome bloom, hope you get your DS!

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[Rosie85]

Welcome Bloom and so sorry to hear about your loss. Good luck with your sway.

[daisymoo]

Lyagirl, if you ask me it's the best part of th le diet! ;)

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[Fiorefleur]

Any one aiming for a February baby ?

The way my cycles are I think we may end up with a late January or early March baby. It would be nice for a February baby again, though.

[Rosie85]

I am probably going to end up with a feb baby. I have been cycling 10-15 days late every cycle so it will push me out to mid may if it keeps it up. When I started LE it was set for me to have a January 5th due date and now it would be about February 4th.

[Fiorefleur]

Exciting Rosie !! It was telling me January 27 or later. If I could ..sway..the doctors to let me get sliced on Febuary 1st...or wait for another attempt at a vbac. Or get a late February baby from getting sliced at 39 weeks. haha.

I'm breastfeeding our 8 month old, so now my cycles are 35-37 days. Drives me nuts.

I just want to be done by 30 wich would be next February. haha.

[odd]

Welcome.bloom

Wow rosie. I like your confidence. I can't bring myself to think that I will conceive in my first attempt for some reason

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[hotdogz&boyz]

Thank you for the thread on CM! I'm getting frustrated with it!

Welcome bloom! I'm sorry to hear about your loss :( I hope you get your little rainbow guy soon!

Oh, and we may have a feb baby. But prolly march. I deliver early though, so I think the EDD would be march regardless.

[Rosie85]

I actually don't feel overly confident since I have been having issues and I likely have endo now. All 3 of my kiddos now were conceived first month try. I was extremely fertile and hopefully still am! Trying to stay positive!

Fiore I wish to be done by 30 too.. I will be 29 when my next baby is born barring I get pregnant within a year of course! I am really wanting to donate my eggs if I can and the cutoff is 31 years old for that here.

[Boysway]

Welcome Bloom, sorry to hear of your loss. Hopefully your little man will come back to you :)

Rosie, fingers crossed it isn't endo xx

Fiore, I'm not aiming for any month in particular. In fact, I would rather avoid Jan-May. We don't want to hold off ttc any longer. With the way my cycle is going, if I get my bfp next month I will be due around January 19th (give or take a day). Very close to my nephew and my uncles birthdays. Same with Feb, March and April, lol. Ah well.

Fiore and Rosie, I told hubby I would be done by 30. If we are successful in a bfp this year, I will be 32 when bub is born, lol.

[bluebonnet22]

We are trying to avoid a February EDD (too many family birthdays, bad weather, etc). We were originally going to start trying in June but I'm set to ovulate June 5th so we will probably skip that attempt unless my cycles shift between now and then.

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[daisymoo]

Oh my god you're all so young!! I'm feeling very old now at 38!!
I really don't mind which month I have a baby in. I think a Christmas baby would be so special, I'd love it. So would my boys It would be like an extra gift from Santa! I doubt it will work for me first time either. When I conceived my boys I was so healthy, total opposite of now. I hope I'm not struggling to conceive in 6 months time. But fingers crossed for everyone. I suppose odds are that some of us will get bfps in April. Here's hoping. Have to keep remembering to not stress out!

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[Jmrad]

Hello everyone!
I'm new here, I'll tell you a bit about myself.
I'm 28 yrs old my husband will be 31 in April. We just got married in February ad have been together 4 years. We have know each other since elementary school and went to high school together and so luckily found each other down the road. We are waiting to concieve until may/June because I have some weight to lose and been having some stomach issues so just sorting those things out before trying. We also did not want to end up having our baby on/around Christmas because my brother had always hated (hes dec22) it and my dad always found it financially hard too. We plan on 3 little ones so we thought wed try to avoid the extra stress around that time. I'm afraid that if we keep waiting and we don't concieve right away, later down the road we will regret waiting if we have conception problems. My best friend says to jut relax and try not to control everything all the time (she's 25 and just had her first "accident" baby with her unstable boyfriend) I feel like she doesn't understand. We also plan to try for a girl as there is no girls in my husbands family for over 50yrs! His mom always wanted a daughter and ended up with 2 boys. My husband also said he's always dreamed of a daughter, and his brother has a son. I'd be happy either way but a girl would be extra exciting.
Looking forward to getting to know some of you ladies and having a Bit of a support group!xoxo

[marriedmomof2]

Bloom sorry for your loss, welcome to the group, good luck on your sway
Lylia (sp?) I am drinking beer, for calories and for my girl sway, so it helps in two ways
Rosie I hope it's not endo
Daisy I have seen 45 y/o women on here, so don't feel old. Not that they are old either but I have seen older on here.
AFM, I'll be 28 next month on April 9th... Not excited about it either, but I have never been one to care about my birthday but as the years pass, I feel like dang 30 is sneaking up on me.
If I conceive in June (I am really hopeful and being really positive that it will take only 1 try) the baby will be due in March. I am getting really anxious though, ready to be pregnant (and I am not even ttc yet)... but good things come to those who wait.
I like march because my youngest sons bday is in Jan, dh's in Feb, and mine is in April, so baby bear will have her own bday month

[daisymoo]

Jmrad welcome to the group Hope you're still enjoying the newly wed period!
Marriedmom turning thirty is great It's the new 21 lol!!!! :cool:

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[marriedmomof2]

Jmrad welcome to the group!!
Daisy, so I've heard lol!!

[bluebonnet22]

Welcome Jmrad! Swaying for your first is nice because it doesn't have nearly the pressure of swaying for your second (or third, or fourth, etc) - at least you know you have 3 chances!

[bluebonnet22]

Jmrad's situation made me think of a follow up question. How many swaying pink have husbands with no sisters? I know this goes against the spirit of this website, but boys actually DO run in some families

http://www.collective-action.info/sites/default/files/webmaster/_TEA_Gellatly_Trends-in-Population-Sex-Ratios.pdf

This is a fantastic read and explains why some families are just destined to have boys (or mostly boys) and some have more girls. "It was found, not only that males with more brothers had more sons, but males with more sisters had
more daughters" .

[Rosie85]

Welcome Jmrad!

I personally am excited to turn 30. I already feel older than 30 though! Having your first kiddo at 22 will do that to you.

Ladies it looks as if my ovulation is not happening again. FRUSTRATING. I have a feeling this exercise is doing it but I won't stop the exercise. Hopefully if I eat more fat and some meat it will come back. I am thinking april won't happen then for ttc. I keep adding unwanted weeks to my sway. I was thinking of maybe just going for it the very next time I ovulate which could be anytime hopefully but I really don't want a xmas babe and I have only been hard core exercising for 2 weeks after my 3 week break.

[daisymoo]

Rosie that is frustrating to say the least When are you supposed to be ovulating? Maybe it's just a bit late this month due to diet etc. Did you ever have problems with ovulation before this diet?

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[odd]

Welcome jmrad

Rosie. .how frustrating! ! Hope your ovulation returns back to normal soon

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[Rosie85]

zero issues with ovulation as long as I have had a cycle. I did take a plan B pill once and after that I didn't have a period for a year!! This whole wonky ovulation started in February when I ovulated late. If it were on time this month it should be right now, I am on cycle day 16 today I think?? Last time I didn't ovulate until CD 22 where it was normally CD13-14. I am expecting another CD 22 or so for it. I am used to 30 day cycles not 40 day ones.

Oh wait no I lied! Right before I wanted to conceive Teddy(ds3) I was suppose to be in a wedding and I didn't want my period so I told it to come late and it did...I ovulated 2 weeks late. The next cycle though i got pregnant right away.
I did ask my period to be later this time too I guess because with my regular schedule it was going to give me an early Jan due date and I wanted it later...be careful what you wish for ladies! haha. Seriously wondering if I have secret super powers.:superhero::omg:

[seabeewife]

We're starting in April :) it would be nice to have ttc buddies!

[unwirklich]

I wish I could tell my period what to do lol Are you on vitex already? I know that can help with the late O and wouldn't require cutting the exercise.

[daisymoo]

Yes maybe you do have super powers! My boys would love you They love anything superhero! But it is frustrating. Maybe up your protein and fat if it is on the low side. Perhaps you're being too strict. Hummus would be a good option. Teddy is a cool name by the way.

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[odd]

Wait.mwhat do u mean 'told ur period'?? U do habe superpower s

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[Rosie85]

I am not on vitex. Perhaps I should try that, I do have a half bottle on hand that my SIL gave me.

haha daisy I can sign some autographs for your boys! Thanks--Teddy is named after my Grandpa who has Alzheimers. They have an extremely special bond. The doctors have said I probably added a good year onto my grandpas life by bringing ds3 into his world. I truly believe I had ds3 for a reason. He is all my gpa talks about. It melts my heart and it really really hurts at the same time that he is starting fade away and won't be my "grandpa" the way I know him much longer.

[Rosie85]

Wait.mwhat do u mean 'told ur period'?? U do habe superpower s

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hahaha I just kind of was like " I sure wish I wouldn't have to deal with my period over the wedding, why can't you come a little late??" and..it did. Strangest thing ever. Then back in January/Feb when I was looking at my projected due date for conceiving in april it was early January and I mentioned I wish it would be a couple weeks later. Yup I did it again. Except now it won't stop, it's like I'm stuck on repeat every month and it keeps going later and later. Unfortunately my super powers only work one way and they are irreversible.

[daisymoo]

Aw that's so nice for your grandpa. That's the good thing about having your kids when you're young, as they get to see the older generations too. My dh's mother died two months before my ds3 was born and his personality is so like her. She would love him. So at least your grandpa is getting to enjoy your little man. It's such a special bond.
You could try vitex. Hope something works for you and you can back to normal cycles.

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[Rosie85]

Sorry to hear about your mil daisy. I am sure she is watching ds3 from where she is now and is in love!

My sil is finding out soon what gender her baby is. It's her first. I already know it's a girl. Her ramzi says girl and I have a strong gut feeling. I am worried about how I am going to react. I am already jealous but I don't want to cry over this, it seems silly. I am glad to get a niece but so hurt I can't have my own daughter.

[daisymoo]

You will get a daughter I just know it My sil has three daughters I know the feeling! :mad:

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[Rosie85]

daisy- i hope you are a psychic with a 100% success rate! I think it is both of our times. 3 boys is enough! Does your Sil have any boys or just the girls?

[marriedmomof2]

Rosie you ill get your dd, and you never know what the other person is thinking, she may be really wanting a boy.

[Rosie85]

Rosie you ill get your dd, and you never know what the other person is thinking, she may be really wanting a boy.

She is fine with either. She expressed interest in wanting a boy first but she said she would be super happy either way. I am sure the only reason she wants a boy is so he has my boys as buddies but then she said she thinks its a girl and it's okay because she has a feeling my next will be a girl and they will be buddies then, I hope she is right!

[daisymoo]

No she has no boys but really wanted her third to be a boy! She adores my boys and says I don't know how lucky I am to have boys that they're easier to raise!

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[Bloom4314]

Rosie I'm so sorry to hear about your Grandpa, but I'm so happy for you that your little boy got to meet him and form a bond with him. That is so special.

I wouldn't mind a Feb baby (our youngest daughter and my niece are both 27th). To be honest, I really don't mind which month our baby is born but would prefer not to have a Christmas baby. A friend was born on Christmas Day and said it just never truly felt like his birthday.

I haven't had AF since delivering our boy, and was wondering if it's a waste of time starting the supplements prior to AF arriving. I want to lost a couple of KG first before starting the HE diet and am not sure if it helps any to start the supps now or just wait until I'm on the HE diet. Does anyone have any thoughts on that?

:)

[odd]

Ladies..a bit off tooic but had to confess. I stuffed my mouth again with crap all day - I know AF is around the corner and I get like this every freaking time

I hate my need to constantly graze. Its like one steo forward and 2 back

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[Rosie85]

odd- I do the same and aunt flo isn't around the corner for me. Everything is so tempting to me. I am starving all the time. I would give anything for some chocolate cake right now. Maybe I will have to find one slice and have a fat free day in everything else I eat.

[Jmrad]

I am addicted to sweets latey and u can not get past it!!! I recently just quit smoking and drinking so now I drink tea an eat sweets at night ugh I wish I had some will power!! :(

[hotdogz&boyz]

It's funny, I hear people knocking December birthdays a lot. I'd love to have a December baby! Both me and dh (and my mom (christmas day) and his dad) are December birthdays. I love it. It makes the whole months magical for me and I feel that we "own" more of the holidays than other people, since we have this little pack of birthdays in there. If the timing was better (I missed the December window already, we weren't ready and next December is too far), I'd totally have a December baby!

Rosie: I hope you don't have any issues with your new niece, if that is the way it goes down. I think it's your turn to have a girl this time. I feel like I should "volunteer" for an opposite. You know, to balance out the group. I'm in a particularly lucky position. So if it worked like that, know that I would volunteer so y'all could get your DG. Lol.

Bloom: if if were me, I'd wait until I was 2 months out from my attempt, regardless of diet. I know some of the supps need to build up. The only exception I'd make is aspirin. I'd put that off til last minute. Personal opinion there.

[Boysway]

Sorry I can't quite keep up. There was quite the explosion of posts, lol.

I would rather not have a December baby, my birthday is the 27th of December. Definitely wouldn't want that, lol. Mind you, mine and dh's anniversary is also in December. We have so many birthdays near the end of the months and that is when I ovulate. Ah well.

AFM, hopefully I have ovulated. Day 2 of a -OPK. We'll see what my temp is like tomorrow. Hopefully I did actually ovulate. If not, I will probably ovulate around the 4-5th of April if I follow the path of last months cycle. CRAP, crap, crap, crap!!! I just looked at my EDD should I conceive that date next month...my birthday! No way, Jose! Hmm, may need to skip next month after all :( Let's hope I did ovulate the other day.

[Boysway]

Rosie, fingers crossed your emotions are all good once you see your niece. My SIL's first child was a boy. We frequently went for coffee before she found out what gender bub was. After she found out, I couldn't bring myself to ring her for coffee or any kind of catch up. It hurt me so bad knowing she got the boy she wanted. I am just telling you this in case you have those feelings, you are not alone and IMO, it's only natural.

[daisymoo]

Oh odd I know exactly how you feel Af came for me last Tuesday and I ate so much it was like I never had food before Happens me every month. My diet has been quite unhealthy lately. For all my boys I was sooooo healthy I figure if I eat lots of sweets etc this time round I'm bound to get an opposite (well that's what I tell myself!!) Can't wait for bfp so I can start eating oatmeal and seeds and nuts again mmmmmm.
By the way my ds2 has a December birthday and when we have his party it's magical with the Christmas tree and all the Christmas atmosphere, and he seems to love it.

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[bluebonnet22]

Ladies..a bit off tooic but had to confess. I stuffed my mouth again with crap all day - I know AF is around the corner and I get like this every freaking time

I hate my need to constantly graze. Its like one steo forward and 2 back

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I was planning on starting the diet April 1st, but figured I'd ease into it thsi week. AF started yesterday and I was a MESS. I was so nauseaus from skipping breakfast and I have just been wanting to eat huge fatty meals since AF started. UGH. I think I will just have to wait to start until April 1st (and AF is gone). I'm worried about next month's AF when I'm in full - on diet mode! It will be so tough! Might have to give myself one cheat meal per AF or else I will go insane.

[Rosie85]

Good news! I got a positive ovulation test today! CD16. Woohoo. That means I am back on schedule. It came out of nowhere but I am very happy.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Yay for being back on schedule! I've given up predicting my ovulation. Lol. I pee on sticks after I see lots of EWCM and eventually I get a smiley one. But, as previous post said, it's usually 5-6 days after seeing EWCM, it's soooo annoying.

[hotdogz&boyz]

We have so many birthdays near the end of the months and that is when I ovulate. Ah well.


Funny, I never even thought about that. I guess it would happen if your cycles came back and were super regular. I've been due all over the month (the 11th, the 4th, and the 24th) and have given birth with an okay variety (20th, 16th, and 9th). But my mom had all of us in the "teens" (12, 16, 18). And I know a lot of people who have that same thing with their kids.

[Rosie85]

My 1st three were all due around the same time of the month. August 12th, November 8th and April 12th. They were all born early. Ds1 ended up being early enough where his birthday is actually the 30th of July, Ds2 is Nov 4th and ds3 is april 9th.

If my ovulation stays at this cycle I will ovulate at the end of the month in april and have a January 20th due date or so.

[daisymoo]

Yay Rosie! Great news!

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[Boysway]

Baby #1 was due 23rd of March, arrived 23rd Feb, #2 due 14th July born 21st June. #3 due 24th June born 27th June and miss 3, never to stick with a trend was due 2nd April arrived on the 4th April and it was Easter Sunday that year.

Rosie, if both our cycles behave I'll be due a few days before you, on the 17th of January.


I'm happy, I got perfect cross hairs on FF which means I did ovulate. Now, if my cycle can behave next month it will be all good as I will be due 17th January, if successful (5 days before my nephews birthday).
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[unwirklich]

I think its crazy how ovulation seems to stay consistent. I was thinking about it the other day. My DS1 and DS3 share the same bday, were conceived on the same day and had different due dates because the CD 1 varied with them, but they were both born late (2 weeks DS1, 1 week DS3) and ended up born 4 years and like 2 hours apart. When I was projecting due dates, if I get pregnant next cycle rather than this one based on ovulation not CD1, the due date would be DS2's bday. That means in like 5 freakin years my ovulation has still stayed consistent...despite me having irregular ovulation according to FF, it's ranged from like day 9 to day 20.

[Mulberry Smurf]

My ov this year is the same as last year too despite having a baby in between. Weird. Sorry just weighing in haha!! Love your profile pic unwirklich xx

[Bloom4314]

DD1 was due 18th October, DS was due 20th April and DD2 was due 20th Feb. They all arrived 10 days late.

Thanks for the advice :) I think I'll start the supps now and once my cycle returns I'll start on the diet.


Thanks again x

[Fiorefleur]

Funny, I never thought about the same ovulation and similar due dates. haha ! #1 was due February 22, #2 was due July 24 .

My cycles are longer right now since I'm breast feeding an 8 month old. BUT. If it stays on a similar cycle, I'll be due around January 27th with #3 .

Funny.

I"m getting frustrated with my wondofo ovulation strips. I have all the signs of before ovulation and such but I'm on cycle day 19, almost 20, and haven't gotten my double dark lines. With my long cycles I usually ovulate around now , I've never tried ovulation tests before though. Sometimes they look almost'ish equally dark and other times faint. Now I see why testing can stress someone out.

[Rosie85]

Fiore that is the brand I use. Yesterday my line looked almost as dark and then today it was super dark and showed up right away so I took todays as my positive one. Maybe if you would try testing twice a day you could see the differences better, as in you would better be able to see when it goes from negative to positive because it would be more gradual.

[unwirklich]

I agree with Rosie, you could just be missing the peak of the surge. I use Wonderflo and there are about 3 days where they look debatably positive, but usually after my temp rise if I keep them an compare the right day is slightly darker. I test just in the afternoon, but twice a day probably would help.

[Boysway]

Fiore, what time are you testing? I usually test between 10-11am and between 2:30-6pm. I find it's more important to do the afternoon test as that's when the surge usually happens. It's also good to limit your fluid intake for 2 hours before testing.

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[Fiorefleur]

Thanks ladies .

Since it's day 20 and I typically ovulate around now, I've been testing once during the 10 am hour, once in the 2 pm hour, and once in the 8 pm hour. It's all about the same, some days were lighter and the ones from the past 3 days being a little darker, but not quite there.

This morning I got a good temperature dip in the 160s, and that is testing the same time each morning, the same amount of sleep/sleep movement at night, and I actually dressed warmer last night. With the temp dip I was expecting some dark lines today but nope..nothing.

I hold my pee and not drink for 4 hours before the 2 pm hour test.

I even have more ewcm going on.

It's got to be close, right ?

Good thing this is my testing cycle ! May is when we want to ttc for real.

Will my vitamins/supplements interfere by any chance ? Or a small cup of coffee /caffine ?

edit to add : Would breast feeding make my hormones more difficult to pick up on these tests ? With my chemical about a month ago, I kept getting squinter faint positives and only the digital picked it up very good, that was 8 days after my period was late.

[unwirklich]

I've had months where I got a crystal clear O pattern with my temps, but no dark positive OPK. Do you normally have an ovulation dip around day 20? If so I'd trust the dip over the stupid plastic sticks. lol

[bluebonnet22]

Fiore - I'm sorry I dont' have advice for you, but that must be so frustrating! I'm on a test cycle, too. I'd definitely trust your chart more than the sticks.

[unwirklich]

I don't think breast feeding can affect an OPK, but it can affect ovulation. Many women don't ovulate at all while they are still BFing, many others not regularly, it's a "lucky" few of us that get stuck with AF every month during lol (I am one of those). Maybe you are gearing up and not actually ovulating. Are you seeing the temp shift or is this your first month temping?

From what your saying about your chemical and the late positive test, I have to wonder if you didn't ovulate later than you think.

ETA: If you're using Wonderflo pregnancy tests as well, they often have a faint line once dry. :)

[Fiorefleur]

Thanks you two ! :-)

My periods have gone back to normal after dd2. They came back in December, 6-8 days long , heavy for half, then medium, then light . After dd1, they were only 3-4 days and super light , the cycle days were short. But now they are long again .

When I ttc dd2, I did notice a temp dip , a few days before cd 20, but that month my cycle was shorter , so I ovulated sooner . With her she measured 1 week later than the original edd at her first u/s though .

My app said tomorrow is my peak day, I had to wear a pad today for a lot of ewcm .

I used about 4-5 different pregnancy tests with my chemical and they all had the same results .

The line on my test tonight was much , much lighter than yesterday .

Gosh, all my pre-ovulation pains better be good for something . Lol

I remember getting the pre-ovulation stuff in October and November but didn't start bleeding until December .

Our bodies amaze me sometimes !





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[unwirklich]

well if it's getting light now, and you had a dip, and you have copious EWCM, I'd call yesterday positive, worse that can happen is you get laid, right? lol If your temps don't confirm you can always keep testing. That's why I love the wonderflo OPKs, so cheap.

[Fiorefleur]

Lol thanks . That's what I'm starting to think ! We really want a January\februay baby so we dtd covered last night . Gaaah that was hard self control !

Will digital help confirm it better by any chance ?




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[Fiorefleur]

Well, good news. I just checked my ph levels and it's at a 7-8, maybe more on the 8 side I think . Yesterday and the days before were reading 4 -5 . So , something is happening . I think I just have bad luck with pee sicks apparently ! I feel better.


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[unwirklich]

I'm cheap, so I've never tried a digital. I don't know much about pH either, but I think I recall Atomic saying fertile CM is more alkaline so I think it jumping to 7-8 is a great sign.

I started Clomid today, I'm happy to report no side effects :D I was worried about that because I've never taken it before.

[Fiorefleur]

Oooo, exciting !! I hope it works good !! :-D !!

My pee stick lines for this am were darker . Ha . Not getting excited. The only other darkish line was cd 13, today is cd 22 . Almost a 10 day difference
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This is my first time ph testing , I don't have high hopes for it . Haha.


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[Mlane]

Hey guys, I am trying to figure out if I am going to be swaying with you or not. My goal is June (birth calender) for a girl sway. The problem is that I was originally planning for March April but I just couldn't commit to the LE diet, or any swaying tactics really, I've been ridiculously busy. Pretty much, I want a girl BAD (I'm one of the heartless ones that is not so ok with another boy), and I am in the mindset that if I'm going to do it at all it has to be now (this year). I've been researching and telling myself for months that I need to buckle down and commit to LE and a full sway attempt but I just haven't been able to and I'm still really confused about a lot of the info on the forums (especially acronyms). I have seen that Atomic says that she doesn't believe in "egg priming" but then later she recommended starting LE as close to 3 months out as you can. So what do you guys think...is it too late now to start a sway (I probably wouldn't even be able to start till next week)? Should I stop beating myself up every day that I haven't started swaying yet and just give up on it for now? Or is there still plenty of time? The most stressful part is that as I said I really don't even want to try unless I know that I did everything I could TTC Girl, but the date is fast approaching and I just don't feel capable of trying to figure out LE diet and everything else right now (I've been reading for months and it all still seems like a foreign language to me) :-(. I just stressed myself out putting it all into words lol...I know how ridiculous it sounds

[Fiorefleur]

Mlane, don't stress about it too much ! I feel the same way about wanting a boy, don't feel too bad .


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[Fiorefleur]

So that sent too early .

I didn't do anything special with my girls . With the first one I ate good amounts of meat and didn't really lose weight or anything . It would have been a good boy sway. Not planned. I ate dairy .

With the second I was on super high protein , lots of exercise, vegan menu and soy free. I had lost a lot of weight . But we baby danced a ton before, during, and after ovulation . Only took normal vitamins.




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[unwirklich]

There are I guess easy ways to sway, but after 3 boys I'm convinced that if you really want something you have to commit. With DS3 I kinda swayed, I read all the stuff and when I realized how much of a lifestyle change it would take to be "girl" friendly I sort of half assed it, and well, I got another boy. lol I think swaying is best viewed as a game of chances. If you do nothing your chances are pretty close to 50/50, the more you do to way the more that ratio tips a bit. If your a gambler and it wouldn't break your heart to have a failed sway, not tipping that ratio much may be just fine for you, really it' what your comfortable doing.

As far as "egg priming" the diet isn't to prime the egg, it's to prime your body. To my understanding the LE diet is designed to trick your body into thinking times are tough, the longer you have a low nutrient diet, the higher the chance of that happening.

The acronyms are kind of confusing. I have that in my idea file for my writing as an article I need to get to lol (I write for Yahoo, not this site, but my "niche" is women's health and parenting.

[Fiorefleur]

Lol Makes sense and that's cool . :-) Write mama write !

I'm going all out for a boy sway this time , I hate meat but I get higher and fattier protein this way for the most part. It less stressful than packing a million snacks of low protein together . I'm targeting every little detail including cutting back on sweets . I don't even crave sugar now ! I've already packed on some pounds .

Didn't realize you could pack on pounds without sugar ! J/k . It's not any better . Haha .

Sending girl baby dust your way !!!

Are there any favorite snacks or meals you loved with your boys ?


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[Boysway]

I noticed the same thing Fiore, it is now rare for me to crave sugar. Even when AF was around the corner and that was my worst craving time.

[Mlane]

Thanks so much for the responses.
Fiorefleur, from everything that I've read I'm pretty sure that testosterone is the biggest influence (at least I think it was for my two boys). When I do sway that is going to be what I focus on most. I think that the diets that atomic created address this issue along with other things. For both of my boys my husband and I were both in the Marine Corps and and I ate A LOT of fat and protein....and just about anything else I wanted too (think big juicy burgers and fries on the reg). I'm pretty sure that just about everything in my life served to raise testosterone. That's my biggest concern for trying to sway pink, I'm fairly sure that I naturally have pretty high testosterone :-(.
Unwirklich,I know you're right about committing. Knowing that is really what's stressing me out because I want it so much but I know that it's gonna take that commitment and I just can't make it happen right now. The "egg priming" thing that I was talking about was something Atomic said a couple years ago that starting the diet around three months was called egg priming because you were trying to condition the egg from the beginning of it's life. In that post (which I can't find right now) she said that 6 weeks should be fine because she didn't believe in egg priming, but then in a later post she said that they were seeing better results starting around 3 months out. Pretty much what it comes down to is that I know the answer to my question, if I really want to do it I need to get a serious and solid plan and put it into action for at least three months (because I'm pretty sure my husband and my testosterone levels will push for boys) I'm just looking for someone to tell me what I want to hear that I can diet for a month, take vitex and saw palmetto, and make a perfect princess...:-( Ugh! It's just frustrating when you want it so much and you just can't commit to making it happen.

[Mlane]

If anyone knows of a thread that has all the acronyms could you post the link? Just if you know off the top of your head where it is. It's pretty easy to get lost in gender dreaming lol.

[Abifasc]

Sorry to jump in ladies I haven't been very active. I'm getting so nervous!! April is our first attempt month. I'm starting to get scared!

[Fiorefleur]

Eeee, so exciting Abifasc !! You can do it ! :-D

I had no idea swaying pink was so hard . :-( sending pink dust out !!!

Mlane ...there is a thread ...but I can't recall where I just saw it . Ahh. Sorry.


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[marriedmomof2]

Maine here's the link http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/2069-abbreviation-translation.html
Abifasc that's exciting, fx crossed you get a pink sticky bean in April.

[Boysway]

Abifasc, next month is my first trying month as well :)

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[Bloom4314]

Abifasc Good luck! Praying hard that this is the month for you :)

[SamS_TTCPink]

Fingers crossed for you Abifasc that your first month is the month!! 😊


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[unwirklich]

Mlane that is totally how I got my 3rd boy lol I took vitex/SP and kind of dieting for like..3 weeks. I guess I thought my luck would get me a girl.

Abiflasc and Boysway, good luck, :fx: this is your month.

Congrats MumofSix! I see your ticker says you got your sticky bean already. I send super pink thoughts your way. I have 3 boys, I have no idea how you are still sane after 6.

[SamS_TTCPink]

I wouldn't say I was sane!! 😜 😉
And yep we got a BFP a few days ago!! 😊 Did not expect it at all and still don't feel like I'm pregnant, except I'm sooo nervous cause I'm already "attached" and it's such early days. But thank you, it's exciting!


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[kitkat18]

Hey guys can I join?? You guys seem like a chatty bunch!! I'm not planning anymore but actively ttc a girl I'm on my third attempt, lost 12 pounds, been on le for about 13 weeks now. I did all my planning in about a week :) maybe good I did not get a BFP on the first go! I have two boys 6 and 4 and a little more vintage at 35 so feeling content with another wee guy but trying to up the odds a bit to try for a girl. Mlane tricky!! Most people don't tend to get a BFP first attempt but then some do mum of six!!! And quite a few from Feb. I think if you have not started have time to spare age wise take the time to commit:) then you can say you did all to try for DG! Good luck in your decision xxxx

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[daisymoo]

Welcome to all the new girls Best of luck! Anyone ttc blue can have all my blue dust. And big congrats mumofsix!
Ok girlies looks like I'm officially in the 2ww!!!!!!!!!! And way ahead of time! This is my first attempt and was planning on dtd every four days, and assumed I would ovulate cd13/14. So started using opks first time and tested on cd6 and to my absolute shock it was positive! The line was almost as dark as test line And to add to things hubby was out of town but due back during the night (thank god!!) So dtd at 6am and took another opk test later that day and it was really dark positive. Another test last night showed the line is gone lighter again. Also had sharp ovulation pains yesterday. So I'm presuming I ovulated very early as a result of vitex and diet etc. Never used opks before but hope I got it right and will catch that pink egg!! Didn't get to use zirtec or rephresh as it was all so rushed. But hoping the large glass of wine I had a few hours before might help! Nothing I can do now only wait and see I suppose. Does anyone know if we have to still take aspirin in 2ww? And kitkat you're not vintage I am, I'm 38!! :)

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[daisymoo]

Actually just read back over my plan from Atomic and she explains that aspirin helps fertilised eggs to implant so going to keep taking it.

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[marriedmomof2]

Welcome Kitkat!
daisy fx crossed for you!
boysway fx crossed for you too! I hope you catch your egg this month
mum of six congrats!

[Fiorefleur]

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Guess who finally got her double lines !!?! Ovulation ladies, ovulation .

Cd23 . I was about to give up testing .

We're aiming for next month but I'm relieved to see it still.


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[marriedmomof2]

woohoo!! Fiorefleur I that hope you catch it :)

[marriedmomof2]

I know I asked this question before but I can't remember where and I would hate to make a post for this simple question, this is for the pink swayers if you are using rephresh how long before your first attempt did you ladies start using rephresh? 6 weeks? 1 month? TIA

[Rosie85]

Glad to see you are ovulating Fiore! I was the same way last month...about to give up and then it finally showed on cd27 or 28..can't remember.

[daisymoo]

Yay fiorefleur That's great news Our bodies can be so confusing!
Marriedmom I think you just use rephresh from af to attempt in attempt month but not 100% sure as I didn't use it. Sorry!

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[Rosie85]

Yes I too thought I read that rephresh is AF to attempt but I think you also only apply every 3 days or something like that?

[Abifasc]

Thanks everyone!

Congrats mum of six!

Good luck daisy moo! Hope this is it!

[Rosie85]

daisy! I missed the post that you are the in 2ww! Hope this is it! Best of luck

[daisymoo]

Well here's hoping it was real ovulation The tests were really dark so fingers crossed! Thanks

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[Boysway]

Congrats on your bfp mumofsix :)

Welcome kitkat :)

Thank you unwirklich :)

Oooo, fingers crossed daisymoo :)

Thank you marriedmomof2 :)

Fingers crossed Fiore :)

All this is so exciting :) So much going on in here right now.


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[Fiorefleur]

It is a rather positive day today on here . Woop ! :-) Thanks ladies !

We decided for a December baby last minute . He came home briefly so we could baby dance, he was excited . Hehe.

Fingers crossed for a healthy boy rainbow baby ! <3

Daisy, keep us updated , we might have Christmas babies together !


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[unwirklich]

Welcome to all the new girls Best of luck! Anyone ttc blue can have all my blue dust. And big congrats mumofsix!


You guys can have all mine too, totally done with it. This made me remember before we had our first my sister in law gave us a blue fertility charm..I think it's still in my garage someplace lol

On the aspirin, I think part of it's helpfulness is that it aids in implantation, so I planned to take it until BFP.

EDIT: I probably should have read the next 2 pages before replying. I see you answered your own question.

I'm a bit out of it. I did my 60 minutes of exercise this morning, had a salad and took my boys to the bus, well I turned the car off while we were there and when I went to leave it wouldn't start! I had to walk 1.6 miles back to my house carrying DS3, who is now like 1 1/2 years old and weighs like 35 lbs. I was in boots with no socks cause I was in a hurry to leave (also why my cell was at home) and wearing a fleece coat..I seriously stripped entirely nakid and sat in front in front of a open window facing the woods for like 30 minutes, it was so freakin' hot. I suppose better than freezing, spring just hit here, so it's about 35 degrees today rather than below zero. I'm beat, that was too low blood sugar for sure.

[Rosie85]

Fingers crossed Fiore!!

[odd]

Congrats mumofsix

Fx daisymoo n fiore :-)

Oh man unwirklich..sounds like u could use an off day tomm with double the workout today. Love how 35 degrees feels hot..lol -

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[odd]

Ooh. Forgot to mention - af is around the corner for me and then its go time. Eeeeeks..so nervous. I am hoping and praying i can somehow delay my af or ovulation coz it falls om full moon which also happens to be lunar eclipse.

In our culture - solar and lunar babies are almost always assumed to be boys coz supposedly, lunar eclipse does something weird to women's cycle blah blah

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[unwirklich]

lol Yeah, the winters up here will do that to you, 35 would seem freezing in the summer, right after a long winter it's tshirt weather. I had to get on my older two cause they keep trying to go outside in just shorts, no shoes or anything, the snow isn't even all gone for cripes sake :awe: my viking boys.

Eeek indeed on the fullmoon/eclipse...the 19th is a hard one too, right at the beginning of a full moon, you'd have to delay it alot to land in a new moon, maybe you'll get lucky and AF will be early, catch the end of the new moon phase.

[Boysway]

*TMI* I have some eggwhite cm today. I did an OPK earlier today and the second line had more colour in it then it should have. I'll do another OPK later today see what happens with that.


It's all good, OPK didn't get any darker...phew!

[Fiorefleur]

Exciting boysway, keep us updated !!

Thanks Rosie and odd . :-) That's exciting it's almost go time !

What a day unwirklich ! Eek, Hopefully tomorrow will go better !




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[Boysway]

unwirklich, I hope there isn't anything major wrong with your car xx


Okay, I might be right. The OPK I did about 15 mins ago was much lighter then the previous one. Let's hope I did ovulate a week ago. Expecting AF in around 6 days.

[daisymoo]

Yes fiorefleur Fingers crossed for little xmas bundles! Hope it works!


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[daisymoo]

Oh no unwirklich what a day You poor thing These things always happen when our phones are at home That some workout in one day! Bet your ds enjoyed the adventure though!
Great news boysway re ovulation.


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[daisymoo]

Oh and odd I have seen so many pink sways that were successful in full moons. I wouldn't worry one bit about that.

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[unwirklich]

Ugh, my alternator is kaputs. Annoys me, because we were already actively looking for a new car to trade this POS (not pee on a stick abbreviation there)..$170 just for the part.

And my bad luck keeps on kicking, TMI here, but I got my first ever yeast infection a few days ago. I had some monostat 7 on hand because my my DS3 gets yeast-based diaper rash semi-often, so I use it, seems to be working, no biggy. Day 2, kind burns, I didn't think much of it. Day 3 felt like someone shoved a hot iron in me ..I'm so allergic to monostat. Ugh, on top of burning and ouch if I can't get this better by next week I could see it seriously screwing up my attempt.

[Rosie85]

unwirk I am so sorry you are having such a poorly time! How frustrating! Hoping your days get better.

[Boysway]

Oh no unwirklich :( Bleeping cars! hopefully it isn't much more money to do the repair. Major ouch at the infection and the allergic reaction :( that's sounds excruciating. I hope it clears up soon. Fingers crossed it doesn't stuff up your attempt.

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[marriedmomof2]

Unwirklich... sorry you are having a rough few days. I know cars can suck sometimes, these things always happen at the worst time.

[odd]

Oh no umwirklich. What a pain to have to go through car troubles. And I hope ur infection clears up soon.

Well ladies, as expected, AF showed up riht on time. I wonder if I should be nervous that my cycles are sooo regular now matter how hard I try to throw them off. I should jist go ahead with my attempt coz I know we'll always find endless list of things to worry about

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[odd]

Oh and odd I have seen so many pink sways that were successful in full moons. I wouldn't worry one bit about that.

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Hope ur right daisymoo. Though it may not be a goos idea, I'm gonna try and drlay my ovulation by even a few days just to put my mind at ease

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[Rosie85]

odd-- all 3 of my boys were conceived in new moons or super near to the new moon phase. The moon phases mean absolutely nothing, I am proof!

If I ovulate when I am suppose to that baby will be conceived in a new moon as well...so they better not mean anything, lol.

[Rosie85]

oh oops. I just reread and it said fullmoon/ eclipse. I still don't put any stock into though!! New moon is suppose to be girl and clearly that was wrong for me. I doubt the eclipse would do anything at all.

[unwirklich]

Now that I think about it...all 3 of my boys were conceived on a new moon too..

[Boysway]

Geez, I hope I follow the new moon thing that you guys have followed. If I ovulate around the same time next cycle, it will 3-4 days before a new moon.

[kitkat18]

Good luck daisy!! That's a very early ovulation though I would take that any day over my delayed one!! Cycle day 23 last time. Just got back from an anniversary night away minus kids so nice to have a few drinks and cheats and remember life without kids missed them so much though!!! Xxxxxxx

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[kitkat18]

Good luck fiorefleur!! 2ww is exciting xx

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[daisymoo]

My goodness my body has gone mad! Since I got a positive opk last Sunday and Monday when I had my attempt, I have been testing daily since and all opks have been negative. Then today I get a big fat positive opk on cd11 which makes much more sense cycle wise. Can't figure any of it out really. So off to the shops to stock up on lots of wine for my second attempt tonight! :cool:

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[flowerlily]

Mind if I join you ladies? :)Not new or anything just came from the March 2ww thread, I think I've seen some of you there.
I've got a BFN today (13dpo) :(, expecting AF tomorrow or latest on Sunday.
Somehow I was secretly hoping during my attempt if I had been on the LE diet longer (which at that time was only 6 weeks) and at the same time i really wanted a 2014 baby, still do though.:D

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[daisymoo]

Hey Welcome flowerlily You still might have a 2014 baby If you get a bfp next cycle you might deliver your baby early and still make it in 2014!

[Rosie85]

Welcome flower!

Daisy- you may have had that lh surge. Was your opk super positive last time or was it a tough call??

[daisymoo]

Hi Rosie, it was super positive on cd7, I would say 100% and the positive on cd6 was nearly as dark. Today's one I 'think' is just as dark. My eyes are gone googly at this stage. I keep moving it to different windows to see if it gets lighter. If anyone saw me they would have me committed ha!!

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[bluebonnet22]

Welcome flowerlily and GL to all the ladies who are attempting in April!

I've been on the diet for 4 days (with the exception of a couple of bites of meat the other night) and have lost NOTHING. I know I'm impatient, but I'm incredibly frustrated because when I do low carb diets and indulge in cheeseburgers and eggs and those sort of foods I'm never hungry and typically lose 5 lbs the first week of the diet. I'll try to be patient, but it's hard. I'm hungry often and not eating meat is awful. The only thing keeping me going is the idea that I could be skinny! I'll give it another 10 days and then maybe switch to the PCOS version of the diet if this still isn't working..

[Rosie85]

Hi Rosie, it was super positive on cd7, I would say 100% and the positive on cd6 was nearly as dark. Today's one I 'think' is just as dark. My eyes are gone googly at this stage. I keep moving it to different windows to see if it gets lighter. If anyone saw me they would have me committed ha!!

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lol! Well that is strange! I am not sure what to say other than do what you are doing and do a second attempt! Smart lady you are. Good luck!

[Rosie85]

blue- it will come. It took me 2 weeks to really notice a weight loss. You don't want to lose too much too quickly just in case it takes a while to conceive. You don't want to get to a point where you can't sway correctly. .The time will start to go quickly. I thought the same as you back in January and was frustrated and discouraged at the whole weight thing. It is now April 4th and I am 3 weeks out from attempt! It went more quickly than I thought it would and I have lost over 20 lbs!

[bluebonnet22]

Rosie - 20 lbs?!? Wow!!! We are likely not attemting until July at this point, so you are right and it's good that my weight loss is slow so I will still have weight to lose in July. I have 20 lbs to lose to get to my lowest adult weight. It seems like so much weight right now and so slow, but I need to learn to stop being so impatient! Did you work out as well?

[Rosie85]

Rosie - 20 lbs?!? Wow!!! We are likely not attemting until July at this point, so you are right and it's good that my weight loss is slow so I will still have weight to lose in July. I have 20 lbs to lose to get to my lowest adult weight. It seems like so much weight right now and so slow, but I need to learn to stop being so impatient! Did you work out as well?

I am working out yes. I started at every other day to build myself up and now I am doing 5-6 days a week. I also cheat on weekends so my weight loss is slower because of that too.

[bluebonnet22]

Rosie - good for you! I had originally decided to go couch potato route but I'm leaning towards adding it to my sway. That's smart to work up to 6 days a week. Maybe I Can start once a week or twice a week and then get up to 6 days by 6 weeks before my first attempt.

[Rosie85]

I think that would a be a good plan blue! It's important to not overdo it right away so you don't quit. I am nervous I won't get pregnant my first try out. I did every other time. I don't know if I have the gusto to keep exercising so much!

[flowerlily]

Hey Welcome flowerlily You still might have a 2014 baby If you get a bfp next cycle you might deliver your baby early and still make it in 2014!

Meant to add hopefully a pink one;) I never delever early, and that's making me nervous.
In my mind I wanted a 2014 winter baby, and it does make a little sense (at least to me..lol) not so according to DH! Men!
Ds1 was born 2010 summer 10 day late weighing a whopping 4.45kg.
Ds2 was born 2012 summer, 5 days late (though we were moving houses, so there were lots of moving/lifting boxes) weighing 3.89kg.
So this time I want to experience birth and new born during winter.

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[daisymoo]

Wow Rosie that's amazing weight loss Well done girl! Bet you feel great all the same do you?
As Rosie said Blue it will take a bit of time for the weight loss to.kick in You definitely don't want to loose too much I've lost 18lbs and I'm trying to stay put which is harder than trying to loose weight!
flowerlily My first 2 ds were overdue but my third was a week early so you never can tell
I did another opk an hour ago and its super dark ........ The mind boggles! Better tell hubby it's his lucky night!!! ;)

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[Rosie85]

Good job on your weight loss too Daisy!!! I unfortunately need to lose more. My BMI is still over 23. I was looking to get to 22, which is for optimum health. So I need to lose another 10 pounds. I do feel good though!

[daisymoo]

Well what you've lost so far is amazing. And as Atomic says any weight loss at all generally sways pink so you're well in the pink zone I reckon.


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[unwirklich]

I have exactly another 10 lbs to me goal too. :) I wasn't losing much at first, really slowly, but I think it was that I wasn't getting the exercise in. I got it in all last week, lost 5 lbs. I'm down 10 and have 10 more to go, but my attempt is in like 4 days, so I doubt I'll see it. 10 lbs got me to no longer obese by bmi standards though :) Do you guys know if we are supposed to continue the exercise in the tww?

I'm also super confused with this clomid stuff, they say it's supposed to dry you out..hah! Not even close. Suppose antihistamines are still in my near future.

[flowerlily]

Hi unwirklich, I asked the same question about the exercise during the 2ww and Atomic said to continue. And it kind makes sense, couse if you don't get a BFP first month ttc..then it's like 2 weeks wasted without exercise as exercise for pink is getting great results.:)
I'm kind of in the 2ww, (still keeping the exercise) got a BFN yesterday at 13dpo..today no sign of AF, will test again tomorrow.

Seriously guys, I'm kind of jealous of all the weight loss, well done on you!;)

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[Mlane]

So reading through everyone's posts I'm a bit confused about the exercise issue. I was under the impression that for pink sways we aren't supposed to exercise unless we are doing heavy cardio every single day, as our only exercise. Is this not the case?

Also pink swayers, I would love you forever if you posted a list of your go to LE foods and meals because that's the biggest thing holding me back. I seriously can't figure out ANYTHING to eat that keeps with the diet aside from like carrots sticks and....yeah that's it lol. I've read the short list of suggestions that Atomic put in the LE posts but I just don't see how you can plan a diet off of such a list. Like I said before I don't have the time right now to research foods and recipes (it's on my to do list) and I would love some quick help from the experts :prof:

[bluebonnet22]

Hi mlane, I've been eating a lot of frozen meals. Are you in the United States? Annies and trader Joe's both carry tons of vegetarian low fat organic frozen meals that are tasty and healthy. Last night I made spinach lasagna rolls from skinny taste. Com. They were so delicious even dh loved them!

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[unwirklich]

On exercise for girl swayers, Atomic says don't or 60 minutes 5-7 times a week unless you have PCOS or insulin issues, then any exercise you can muster is good, but 60 minutes 5-7 times a week is best.

I think the meal I eat most often is salad. lol Iceburg lettuce, half a slice of velveeta cheese torn up, 2 tsp dressing for calories, 6 croutons, cauliflower and occasionally carrot and/or tomato. Ends up roughly 200-250 C and 3 g p, very little fat. White rice and steamed veggies is an easy one too. The diet is way easier to do if you aren't so concerned with the sodium too.

[Mlane]

Thanks unwirk. What is the big deal with the sodium anyway besides normal health issues? I see everyone talk about it and have wondered.
Bluebonnet, thanks for the advice. Are you in Texas? I am, and the wild flowers are everywhere right now. My first time seeing them, very beautiful.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Mlane, the sodium has to do with some peoples thinking that high sodium = boy so SOME people monitor their sodium intake whilst swaying. Atomic doesn't believe sodium sways so most people don't worry. It does make the LE harder when also trying to monitor sodium intake. I think there is an essay on it here somewhere??!?!! 😕


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[lyagirl]

Well that took me about an hour to catch up!

Congrats to mumofsix!

Good luck to everyone on their tww!

AFM im waiting for af due in a week then it's go time! My cycles are longer around 35 days so I will be attempting end of the month. When we're on a weekend hol with witn kids ha ha oh well! Im so dead excited, I just hope ive done everything I can.

[daisymoo]

lyagirl, great timing for your attempt ha! You never know you might ovulate a little earlier or later. Best of luck anyway!
Miane I eat a very boring diet every day as it's easier for me to stick too so I'd be the worst to give tips on diet. At lunch I have white toast and hummus or cream cheese and four or five rice cakes. Then at teatime I have rocket and tomato salad with white rolls or pasta with ww sauce followed by ww yoghurt and meringues. Followed by more rice cakes and sweets and chocolate. Three to four coffees a day and one hot choc. I'm normally so healthy so for the few weeks that are in it I'm doing the complete opposite to my normal diet in the vain hope it gives me a little pink bean!

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[SamS_TTCPink]

Thanks lyagirl! Fingers crossed this month is your month too! 😊


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[flowerlily]

Hi Mlane, this is what I've been eating almost everyday:
Breakfast: nothing.
Early lunch between (11:30/12:30): half a bagel (usally the one with cinnamon and raisins, toasted) with strawberry jam, fat free yoghurt, 1 apple, 1 clementine, and 4 chocolate chip cookies washed down with a big mug of tea with aspartame.
Mid afternoon snack: usually 2 diet cokes and sugar free gum/fat free marshmallows/home made rise cakes (the ones without the fortified vitamins) made with low fat sunflower spread and fat free marshmallows.
Dinner: home made soup (I make big batches and freeze them) with at least 3 vegetables from the list of LE free vegetables(asparagus, mushrooms, leeks,....) with 5 ryvita crackers, or when I get bored of the soup I sauté at least 3 or 4 vegetables from the free list and usually have that with white rice, pasta or cous cous. Sometime with a piece of skinless chicken or two pieces of lamb chops (can't resist them as DH eats them almost everyday. Side dish: usually salad made with lettuce, cucumber, tomatoes.
Dessert: 1 cup of ice cream/5 custard creams/two squares of white chocolate or when I've been naughty during the day I just have plain fat free yoghurt with a few strawberries. Diet coke.
Before bed time: glass of skimmed milk(just during the 2ww, can't sleep on empty stomach). Before it was peppermint tea or cranberry light juice.
I have a few cheat days as well where I have fried eggs on white toast for early lunch and steak and chips for dinner:o
Also I'm not counting any thing as I know this is way less than what I was eating before and I'm BF once Ds2.

E.T.A: I'm switching to fish this week.

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[flowerlily]

Still playing the waiting game for AF to arrive..sigh.

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[daisymoo]

oh flowerlily I can only imagine waiting like that is torture! What day is af due? Have you done preg tests?

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[flowerlily]

It was due on Saturday. Yes and all are BFNs though this is my first month off BCP, so don't really know what is going on...if that makes sense.

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[bluebonnet22]

flowerlily - how frustrating! Hope AF or a BFP shows soon!

[daisymoo]

Yes maybe your body is just trying to get back to normal Hope you're not waiting too much longer

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[yogi&booboo]

Hello,
May I join :) This coming month of May will be our 5th month ttc.

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[Boysway]

I am feeling nervous. According to FF, AF should be arriving tomorrow marking the start of our first ttc cycle...eep!

I don't know who believes in psychics and I hope I'm not out of line. I think I mentioned this much earlier in the thread. Last year I saw a palm reader who said I would have either b/g twins or two babies very close together. This will be our last baby so definitely won't have two close together. Any way, moving along. My Mum saw the same palm reader yesterday. He told her he could see lots of grandchildren and asked if either of her kids were trying for a baby. None of the family know we are trying. So, any way. He said he could see lots of grandchildren for her. He said I would have twins, a boy and a girl. She said are you sure it's not my son, he said no, definitely the daughter! I know it's all fun but, very interesting that he should pick it up through my Mum (DSM) as well.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Sounds promising for you boysway!!😃


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[flowerlily]

Welcome yogi, fingers crossed you get a BFP soon!
Good luck! :)

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[kitkat18]

Boysway there are alot of twins on GD!! How cool would that be xx

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[SamS_TTCPink]

I'm secretly hoping for twins again, but twin girls so they have a sister and not just all their brothers, and cause I like even numbers! Lol!!
(but DH would be furious so don't tell him) 😉


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[Rosie85]

mum- I know you mentioned in your sway that DH abstained and then did I read you had him release once on his own and then you used his second batch for dtd? Did you do it right away or was the first release long before the 2nd? Hope you don't mind me asking, I am trying to figure out what to do for ours because we too are planning to abstain and I wasn't sure if we just use the first batch or the second and if it is the second...when to use it.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Don't mind at all! It was about an hour -hour and a half between the first release and attempt. Pretty much as soon as he could! Lol! We weren't going to but because I got a +opk earlier than expected so we didn't get the 10 day abstain in that we had planned, nor had we been on Zyrtec for the 5 days, we thought we would so the release first before the attempt. DH was more confident in doing that rather than just attempting after only 6 days abstain. 😊


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[Rosie85]

I wonder even if we get 7-10 days in for abstain if it is a better idea to do two releases, using only the second or if its best to use the 1st release only.

[odd]

I thought frequency didnt matter? Meaning how long you FR, abstain all was didint matter as long as you got 1 chance at +opk?? Am I not understanding this correctly?

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[Rosie85]

It doesn't seem to. But I still want to include it just in case. Dh has always released multiple times a week. I don't think it would hurt to have him make a change.

[Rosie85]

Gee I wish I was ovulating today. I am coming down with another cold I think and I got a whopping 2 hrs of sleep last night. DS3 woke up and didn't go back to sleep. He is sick and I think he is getting some teeth. An awful combination for him. I could have used my lack of sleep and illness as part of my sway, haha.

I am really struggling getting to my workouts. I have been so tired lately and constantly feeling sick to my stomach. I don't know what is going on. I am 3 weeks out from attempt and I really need to stick to it but the hour beyond drains me and I almost throw up every time even though it isn't overly intense.

[marriedmomof2]

Hey there ladies!!:happy:
Welcome Yogi....
Miane: I remembered reading a story about a girl who would only eat ramen noodles, she was 18 and had the health of an 80 y/o... So I have decided that will be my staple. It's just easier, plus there are literally a lot of different ways to cook it. I just googled and found different recipes. For dinner I just eat the sides not the meat.
Rosie I am so sorry to hear that you and your ds are sick, I hope that you feel better soon. I know exercising is the hardest part, but she will be worth it in the end. At least that is what I keep telling myself.
Odd from my understanding it is one attempt at positive opk or every four days so that you get one attempt in the window (especially great for people like me who aren't using opks). According to the spread sheet abstain has a success rate of 59% while every 4 days has a 66% success rate..... But CFR has the best at 77%
AFM: I know I have been MIA on here but I find that I am less obsessed if I focus on other things while swaying as opposed to being on here. So I have started this whole re-organization project for my house. Not to mention planning both vacations, plus we are planning to get a privacy fence, and get a drive laid soon, and this is the last few weeks of the semester for me so finals are coming up for me and at work the man who does all the lab work is leaving so now I have to not only do my part but cover for him until they get another, which is fine I love working in the lab. (sorry my whole life story there) I did horrible on the diet Thursday, not too bad Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Making a food journal has really seemed to help me, I have a small notebook that I keep in my purse, I typed up and taped my diet guidelines in there so I can keep better track of what I am doing. I have my pill organizer that is keeping me on track with taking those. Started that exactly one week ago. Still waiting on my exercise DVD to come in to get started with that.
Well I hope you ladies are having a great day!!

[unwirklich]

I got a positive OPK yesterday afternoon, and attempted one PM. I was mad at my DH over some drunken idiocy so he'd been abstaining for like 2 weeks lol I forgot the zyrtec for 5 days though :worry: I took it yesterday morning and then benydryl about an hour before washed down with a hot buttered apple jack..man did I sleep great lol Had a small temp dip today too so I think I'll O today (Cd 13 which lines up with my last 2 cycles. Yay! for clomid not messing it up) I'm torn whether I want to stick to one attempt or go for another tonight to up my chances of a BFP. I'm nervous about taking clomid for more than one cycle...I think I'm just worrying too much lol

[Rosie85]

exciting unwirklich! If I were you I would hold off and keep the one attempt. It has better results. Doing it twice is going to increase the sperm count that much more.

[daisymoo]

oh wow boysway can you imagine if you had twins! how cool would that be! You never know.........
Rosie I think all the exercising you are doing all along will definitely help your sway even if you can't do it for a week or two before your attempt. I think it's overall picture here that matters. At least you have done all that exercise and can feel proud of yourself for doing it I've taken the couch potato route as I was afraid I couldn't commit to it full time.
unwirklich as tempting as it might be wait until four days out from your attempt before dtd again. It has best results for pink. You'll be glad you did.
I totally pigged out today It was my ds3's birthday and we ate chocolate cake by the bucket load!mmmmmm! Probably 2000 cals over today So worth it though!!

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[unwirklich]

Yeah, I think you guys are right. I checked my pH this morning for kicks and it was almost worryingly high..I'm using cheap color dip strips so not an exact science but someplace between 8-10. My normal just after AF pH is like 5-6..OPK is also lighter today so I'm pretty confident I have or will ovulate today...that puts last nights attempt pretty close to O.

I've been trying to get that hour of exercise a day, but I really haven't done so well lol I think there's been one week I managed 6 days since I started the LE diet in Jan. and that was last week because I'm trying harder being this is my attempt month. I make myself feel better by arguing I've had insulin resistance with 2 pregnancies, and noticed I lost more weight once I added cinnamon and pregnitude, so I likely have insulin issues even not pregnant..makes my sad attempt at not being a couch potato less worrisome. After all the reading I really think it's the weight loss that matters most, not so much how much you exercised. Seems to me if you try and only get to exercise 2-3 times a week for that 60 minutes as long as yoiu aren't putting on muscle mass it shouldn't hurt, but then I'm not Atomic lol

[Rosie85]

oh daisy I have been craving chocolate cake sooo badly!!! yummmm

I have been craving everything actually, mostly things I just can't fit into the diet like dairy queen blizzards and cake and giant hamburgers from restaurants. From just one of those things my fat would be over and I wouldn't be able to eat anything else for the day so I have stayed away. I am ready to be pregnant and stuffing my face. It's kind of sad that I would have been ovulating in a few days if my schedule didn't go wonky on me.

[daisymoo]

Giant hamburger Yummy! Sounds glorious alright! I'll send you over some cake! Can't wait to be pregnant either just to pig out! When are you expecting ovulation this month Rosie? Are you all excited?

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[Rosie85]

I am not expecting it until the 28th or so. Maybe a day or two sooner. Once I get my A.F I should know better. I am very excited and annoyed at the same time. I don't want to be pregnant again! I just lost weight and look good finally, lol. I do want another kid though so I gotta do A to get B. lol

[unwirklich]

lol I know that feeling. I was thinking about that the other day, I'm lighter than I've been since 2008 when I had my first kid..sucks to know I'll have no choice but to gain it all back if I want a daughter, but I think what I'll do is after this pregnancy go back on the LE diet and do the exercise. I figure if nothing else, this sway attempt has taught me that I can lose weight and how to do it. The extra 20 lbs having kids gave me really hurt my self image..I'm not fat, but I've felt that way for long time.

[daisymoo]

Bet you'll sail through your next pregnancy Rosie.
Unwirklich I agree. I never thought a high carb low nutrient diet could help you lose so much weight. If I'm lucky enough to get pregnant it's the diet I'll be using after I give birth to get back in shape! I absolutely love being pregnant. Would do it every year if I could!

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[Boysway]

Thanks ladies. I think it would be scary, busy but awesome being a mummy to twins. It would be interesting though having 3 older kids as well, lol. Plenty of hands to help. Unfortunately Miss 13 might take a while to come around to the idea of any number of babies. She has said she doesn't want any more siblings. She also has 4 siblings through her father including one she has never met.

Good luck unwirklich :D

Rosie, I am just a few days ahead of you. Our cycles seem quite similar. I am waiting for AF to turn up.

Afm, as I mentioned to Rosie, I am waiting on AF to arrive very soon. Slightly sore boobs, cramping on and off. I just want AF to arrive so day 1 of our ttc cycle can begin. Ovulation for me 'should' be around the the 25th-29th of this month. I still feel sick with nerves though :worry: Alright, off to have a snack then off to bed. It's 10:33 am here and I haven't slept from a night shift I was called in for last night.

Good luck to everyone waiting :D