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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:56 AM
Maxim I'd try for an attempt tonight or as soon as is doable anyway especially with your last attempt being j&d. How long had passed when you j&d? It may or may not be too late, you may or may not have swimmers from last bd. It's out of your control now but you can get that bd in and still have a chance! It sucks when things don't go to plan and my heart goes out to you but I will say the cycles we think 'no way in hell could I get a bfp from this' often are the ones that do ❤ I know you must be upset but try and accept it for what it is and look forward, don't dwell on things that cant be changed. So much love and positive vibes your way xxoo

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:58 AM
Thanks pbn! And wow, so pleased to hear your good news. Super cute pics! How many weeks are you now? Are you feeling anything yet? So exciting [emoji3]
Hi Halley, nice to
meet you [emoji847] Good luck with your attempt!


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Mummy2boys I'm 12w3d today which is Saturday (was measuring 12w4d at my scan Tuesday) so no not feeling anything yet :)

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maximbella
July 8th, 2017, 07:23 AM
Thanks pbn! Appreciate you more than you know. ❤️ Girls are awake in bed with us now, so no BD until tonight unfortunately. I'm having cramps and bloating so sure I'm close to O now. So my life!! [emoji51]

I had to J&D after 2 mins or so since DD was up crying. Not sure that is enough time to do anything really right?


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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 07:33 AM
No way to know maxim 😕 that's a pretty quick j&d though. In saying that it's definitely plausible and probable that some got up there high enough to defy gravity 😉 and if people can get pregnant from pull out method then I would say there's still a chance, not a fantastic one but a chance nonetheless :) Your cramping and bloating is a good sign and hopefully a bd tonight will up your odds some! You may experience o pains now but not release an egg until later tonight, early hours of the morning (so wish we could see what's going on inside our bodies 😩) so it's definitely worth a go!! Oh and promise you'll make dh get up if needed! He can bring dd into you of required! Stay planked as long as possible!!!

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IWant4Kids
July 8th, 2017, 07:34 AM
Pbn3 - Missed the pathology today, but I found one open tomorrow. Almost ready to join the due in group!

Mommy - Great news for your sister!
So sorry that AF came :( But great news about the new cycle that's going to be the one. I love your pattern....I believe in things like that too.

TTC Blue - Great news that DH is coming around and also being so trusting hehe :)

Max - Wohooooo! So excited for you! All that relaxing and femera are doing their thing.
Sorry to hear your attempt didn't go well. SSRI medication makes it harder for DH to perform, so maybe this impacts on your DH too? ....can take quite a while to get the result! LOL

ABC - Welcome! Sounds like you're ready to go and catch that egg :) Have you got a FF chart to share? If you really want medication just say you've been trying for 6 months already with no luck.

LMSM - Yay for temp rise :) Any signs? Sorry to hear that it took you so long for your DDs xo

Lola - Thank you! I'll definitely let you all know how the appointment goes. I'll only be 5 weeks, so I'm not sure he will see anything on his scanner in the room. Yeah I'll post my not so great sway once I know all is going okay.

Butterfly - Welcome! Hope this is the cycle. Do you have any other children?

Mummy2boys - Welcome back! Thanks for the congrats. Glad DH is coming around and great news about one attempt! FX

Halley - Yay for almost positive OPK! Sounds like you'll catch that egg.

AFM - I did a digital today and got a Yes. I felt sad knowing it was my last FRER, so what did I do? Buy 7 more LOL! I'll feel better after another week of tests and then I'll relax a bit more I hope.
Car is sold and picked up! Yay! Looked at a couple today but didn't like them. Hoping the one I see tomorrow is the one.

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 07:36 AM
Iwant4kids I cant believe you bought another 7pk frer 😂😂😂 love it!!!!!!! So hopefully you'll have your first draw result Monday?

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IWant4Kids
July 8th, 2017, 07:46 AM
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Here it is!!!

Pbn3 - love POAS! Probably Tuesday as it's not marked as urgent


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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 07:48 AM
Thank you iwant4kids. I do hope so


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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 08:00 AM
Pbn: I need your help with something please :)

I originally thought that for ff I should only enter af and +opk for the months after starting he diet, because once I started my cycles cut down to 25 days. But, there was 1 cycle (2nd cycle after mirena removal, the cycle before I started he diet) that was 27 days. So my cycles look like this:
March=25 days (I've been told the first cycle after mirena is short and then it gradually lengthens back to normal)
April=27 days (I took this as it was gradually getting back up to my regular 28 day cycle)
May=25 days (first cycle on he diet)
June=25 days (second cycle on he diet)
So I felt it would be more accurate to exclude the months of March and April. What do you think? Should I use everything I've recorded, or start with May?

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 08:27 AM
Welcome
And Good luck butterfly hopefully this is your cycle! 🤞
Halley hopefully this is the big o! 🤞
Mummy missed you!! Fx and prayers this is definitely your cycle! So glad hubby decided to give in!!
Thanks girl!
Aww Max! Hugs. Definitely a mess!! Definitely try your attempt tonight!

Iw4k: I love that you don't think I'm crazy! I believe we all have patterns, just hard to figure them out for sure! The lord always gives us some type of pattern.
Eek girl!! I'm so excited for you! You don't even know!! Haha love the buying 7 more tests!! So glad for your car being sold! Hopefully you'll find another one soon!

As for me: Well our van broke down, think it's the transmission! Ugh! Bad luck all around with vehicles! Hopefully the guy will strap it to our bill, or there is no way we will be able to afford it.



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maximbella
July 8th, 2017, 09:22 AM
Sorry mommy! Car problems are tough, and costly!!

Got in a morning session. It's not at positive opk, but close enough?


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 10:18 AM
Sure are Max!!
I have everything crossed for you and prayers!!


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kat1234
July 8th, 2017, 10:36 AM
Yay Max!! Glad you got another attempt in [emoji175]


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maximbella
July 8th, 2017, 11:02 AM
Thanks mommy!! You too!

Kat, how are you love??


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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 12:04 PM
Welcome butterfly! Fx this is your cycle & you get your girl! Do you have other children & if so, did it take awhile too? That does seem to sway pink!
Mummy-great to hear from you & awesome you have an attempt in!! Fx so hard for you!!
Iwant4-beautiful seeing that "yes!" Don't blame you for buying more. I would've done the same thing! C'mon over to the ddg when you're ready! [emoji173]
Halley-your dh sounds like a dream-a wonderful support!
Max-yay for getting a morning sesh in afterall! Fx those swimmers swim & catch that eggie! Did you do the digi opk again today? Just wondering hoe it compares to your others?

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 12:07 PM
Welcome Max! Thank you!


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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 12:16 PM
Mommy-meant to include that I'm sorry to hear about your van, how frustrating since transportation is such a necessity with kiddos. Fx it won't break the bank getting it fixed!

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 12:40 PM
Thanks Lola!


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 01:09 PM
Well ladies, they only gave me 5 of my clomid and told me to call back Monday at noon so I can see if they have the other 5 in... I guess it is a sign @pbn I'm going to take the 5 this cycle and hopefully I won't even need the 5 next cycle. Scared of what if they don't get anymore in next week and then I run out of the 5 too fast if I take two at a time. [emoji19]


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kat1234
July 8th, 2017, 01:28 PM
Max - I'm doing good now! Weeks 6-8 was really bad nausea 🤢 For some reason it eased up at week 8 or it could some meds kicked in that I'm taking. I *try* to keep up with you and Mommy and LSMS, can't wait for y'all to get BFP! I'm so glad you took some time away and I'm so jealous y'all have a beach place! The beach and food are 2 of my loves [emoji175] Enjoy a glass of wine in your 2 week wait - I did during mine and I'm so glad I did [emoji5]


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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mommy: That must be stressful with your vehicle problems and being short on clomid. I would totally think that's a sign that you may only need the 5 you have ;)

Max: Glad that you are back! How was your break, are you feeling a little better? I know you said the Femara really messed with your emotions. I'm so excited to see how this 2ww goes for you! Fx

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 03:19 PM
Thanks ttc! :)


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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 03:22 PM
Mommy-def a sign [emoji1374]🤞🏻you won't even need the other 5!!

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 03:23 PM
Thanks Lola! 🤞[emoji120]


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 03:26 PM
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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 03:28 PM
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maximbella
July 8th, 2017, 03:40 PM
Thanks ladies! Wondering how it will play out since our attempt is most likely on O day, which I know isn't great odds. It is what it is....

Kat, me and you both!! All we do here is beach, eat, and relax. It's such a necessary getaway from our city life. We got this place years ago when we got married and have spent every summer here! [emoji108]

Ttc, thank you! It really did mess with me, which is so the opposite of what I thought would happen. Hoping I don't have to take it again next month. 🤞

Mommy, I also take it as a sign!


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 03:49 PM
Max! I am rooting for you! Just feel this is your cycle!! Thanks!


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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 04:02 PM
Max-sound like an amazing place to relax! Praying so hard that the femara worked it's magic & the extra R & R also does the trick!!!

ABC.2606
July 8th, 2017, 04:19 PM
Pbn3 - Missed the pathology today, but I found one open tomorrow. Almost ready to join the due in group!

Mommy - Great news for your sister!
So sorry that AF came :( But great news about the new cycle that's going to be the one. I love your pattern....I believe in things like that too.

TTC Blue - Great news that DH is coming around and also being so trusting hehe :)

Max - Wohooooo! So excited for you! All that relaxing and femera are doing their thing.
Sorry to hear your attempt didn't go well. SSRI medication makes it harder for DH to perform, so maybe this impacts on your DH too? ....can take quite a while to get the result! LOL

ABC - Welcome! Sounds like you're ready to go and catch that egg :) Have you got a FF chart to share? If you really want medication just say you've been trying for 6 months already with no luck.

LMSM - Yay for temp rise :) Any signs? Sorry to hear that it took you so long for your DDs xo

Lola - Thank you! I'll definitely let you all know how the appointment goes. I'll only be 5 weeks, so I'm not sure he will see anything on his scanner in the room. Yeah I'll post my not so great sway once I know all is going okay.

Butterfly - Welcome! Hope this is the cycle. Do you have any other children?

Mummy2boys - Welcome back! Thanks for the congrats. Glad DH is coming around and great news about one attempt! FX

Halley - Yay for almost positive OPK! Sounds like you'll catch that egg.

AFM - I did a digital today and got a Yes. I felt sad knowing it was my last FRER, so what did I do? Buy 7 more LOL! I'll feel better after another week of tests and then I'll relax a bit more I hope.
Car is sold and picked up! Yay! Looked at a couple today but didn't like them. Hoping the one I see tomorrow is the one.

IWant4Kids - No I haven't been using Fertility Friend - I use an app on my phone called "WomanLog". The free version is pretty basic but let's me track my temps and such. Maybe I'll sign up for Fertility Friend so I can share my chart with you guys :) Do you use it on your phone or computer or both or what?

TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 04:33 PM
Max, didn't you get an attempt on o-2 as well, or am I confusing you with someone else? O day is not impossible, so that's all that matters :) I am crossing everything for you that this is your cycle and you won't have to go through that again. It sounds like my every day thoughts and emotions x10, which I would never want to go through. I just know that when you get that sweet little baby it will be so worth it. How many days past o are you?

LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 05:05 PM
Thanks ladies! Wondering how it will play out since our attempt is most likely on O day, which I know isn't great odds. It is what it is....

Kat, me and you both!! All we do here is beach, eat, and relax. It's such a necessary getaway from our city life. We got this place years ago when we got married and have spent every summer here! [emoji108]

Ttc, thank you! It really did mess with me, which is so the opposite of what I thought would happen. Hoping I don't have to take it again next month. ��

Mommy, I also take it as a sign!


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Max all that relaxing plus good attempts (and look at that beautiful temp spike!) will be your magic combo added to the Femara... I reckon you'll get your BFP ! Fx so hard :)

LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 05:11 PM
Pbn3 - Missed the pathology today, but I found one open tomorrow. Almost ready to join the due in group!

Mommy - Great news for your sister!
So sorry that AF came :( But great news about the new cycle that's going to be the one. I love your pattern....I believe in things like that too.

TTC Blue - Great news that DH is coming around and also being so trusting hehe :)

Max - Wohooooo! So excited for you! All that relaxing and femera are doing their thing.
Sorry to hear your attempt didn't go well. SSRI medication makes it harder for DH to perform, so maybe this impacts on your DH too? ....can take quite a while to get the result! LOL

ABC - Welcome! Sounds like you're ready to go and catch that egg :) Have you got a FF chart to share? If you really want medication just say you've been trying for 6 months already with no luck.

LMSM - Yay for temp rise :) Any signs? Sorry to hear that it took you so long for your DDs xo

Lola - Thank you! I'll definitely let you all know how the appointment goes. I'll only be 5 weeks, so I'm not sure he will see anything on his scanner in the room. Yeah I'll post my not so great sway once I know all is going okay.

Butterfly - Welcome! Hope this is the cycle. Do you have any other children?

Mummy2boys - Welcome back! Thanks for the congrats. Glad DH is coming around and great news about one attempt! FX

Halley - Yay for almost positive OPK! Sounds like you'll catch that egg.

AFM - I did a digital today and got a Yes. I felt sad knowing it was my last FRER, so what did I do? Buy 7 more LOL! I'll feel better after another week of tests and then I'll relax a bit more I hope.
Car is sold and picked up! Yay! Looked at a couple today but didn't like them. Hoping the one I see tomorrow is the one.
I would totally have done the same, and bought more... so poas away! :D
Yay for the car!
And no signs I haven't had before..my temps are not very promising anyways..I usually start having that feeling of being pregnant around 7-8 dpo so by mid week I probably will have a vibe for this cycle..not holding my hopes up as much as I want to be positive!

LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 05:12 PM
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Totally a sign hon! Fx fx fx!!!

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:16 PM
Thanks lmsm! I have my fx for you as well!!


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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 05:22 PM
Max I'm so freaking happy you got an attempt in during the AM 😀😀😀 fx so tight for you!!!!! Best news to wake up to!

Mommy2apples are you taking 50mg or 100mg of clomid? When I referred to only having 5 as a sign I was thinking 50mg wise 😕 You'll be starting tomorrow so I think you'll have to only take 50mg this cycle regardless unless they can gaurantee they will have the other 5 in... surely they can source them from another branch or something!

Ttc max had an attempt 2 ago but had to j&d after just two minutes. In regards to your ff question I'd enter it all. If you're referring to the fertile days etc calculations then it will take these into account but being they were so similar anyway I don't tuunk it'd change much anyway :) I see your temp is level today! How are your opks looking? Can you post a pic?

ABC most of us use the ff phone app free version! Definitely worth downloading and then you can share your chart with us 😀 (rubs hands together 😉)

Halley cannot wait to see your opk today!!! It's so going to be positive! I'll be clock watching 🕛👀 Interesting to see another temp in yesterdays range🤔 I'm excited to see if you get another clear shift in two mornings time! (If you get a pos opk today and o tomorrow then we should see a rise on Tuesday)

Mommy2apples sorry to hear about the car troubles! Hope its something minor and not major!

LMSM halfway to test test time! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉


Mtolbert you start opks today too right??!!! So much about to start happening!!! Exciting times ahead!!!


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butterfly8
July 8th, 2017, 05:30 PM
Yes I do have two boys .. my oldest is 6 youngest is4

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:31 PM
I'm taking 100mg, the 50mg i I take two of them to get the 100mg a day.3698036981. They are trying to get them, but said for me to call Monday to check and see. I'm suppose to start them tomorrow. Me too PBN! Fx for that one! 36979 this month will be alright with the 5. I'm not going to sweat it at all! Just feel this is the month! :)


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:33 PM
Aww butterfly! I have a 4 year old and 2 year old both boys! I love their age gap! My oldest two are almost 6 years apart. I like the 2 year age gap best!


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butterfly8
July 8th, 2017, 05:44 PM
Hi and welcome butterfly! Sorry to hear you've been at it so long 🙁 Have the nine cycles all been one attempt? Are you temping/charting? How long are your cycles and when what cd's are you generally getting a pos opk?

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Some months are one attempt and some have been 2-4 days of bd 2-3 days before ovulation.. I have two boys which were both conceived within two months of TTC,, I would always BD when I got my smiley OPKs.. I have not done that method since it resulted in boys both times. But the TTC a girl seems to be taking me a really long time ! Oh and I usually ovulate anywhere from cycle day 12-15...

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 05:44 PM
Mommy2apples that's what I thought 🤔 so you're still going to take the 100mg? If they don't get them in that means you'll only have 2.5 days on clomid.... would it be better to do 50mg and have the 5 days? Or will it not matter as you'll be taking the same dose just over a different period of days?? @xxforhubby what would you do? I don't know enough about this....

Edited: xxforhubby in case this tags you, its all good, M2A is taking 50mg over 5 days :)

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butterfly8
July 8th, 2017, 05:45 PM
Aww butterfly! I have a 4 year old and 2 year old both boys! I love their age gap! My oldest two are almost 6 years apart. I like the 2 year age gap best!


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I agree .. It's not complete chaos when they are two years apart ;)

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:46 PM
No, I'm just going to take the 50mg for 5 days. Afraid they might not get it in time PBN.


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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:46 PM
Definitely butterfly


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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 05:51 PM
Are you temping to confirm when o is actually happening butterfly or going by o being day after pos opk? So your boys were conceived with one attempt at pos opk? Did you have a HE lifestyle when you conceived your boys? Have you been doing the LE diet this time around? Sorry for all the questions 😮 just trying to get some background info :) You said yesterday you're in the 2ww? What dpo are you and when will you test 😀

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 05:52 PM
No, I'm just going to take the 50mg for 5 days. Afraid they might not get it in time PBN.


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Ok phew!!!! I was abit worried you were going to do the 100mg but because I don't know enough about it I didn't want to comment too strongly❤

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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 05:53 PM
Lol just the 50mg PBN. Atomic just said it'd be alright, cause of their mess up.



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LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 06:02 PM
Lol just the 50mg PBN. Atomic just said it'd be alright, cause of their mess up.



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Agree 50 each day over 5 days is likely safest bet considering the unknown as to whether you.d get th rest in time or not ;)

Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 06:04 PM
Definitely lmsm! :)


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LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 06:05 PM
Max I'm so freaking happy you got an attempt in during the AM ������ fx so tight for you!!!!! Best news to wake up to!

Mommy2apples are you taking 50mg or 100mg of clomid? When I referred to only having 5 as a sign I was thinking 50mg wise �� You'll be starting tomorrow so I think you'll have to only take 50mg this cycle regardless unless they can gaurantee they will have the other 5 in... surely they can source them from another branch or something!

Ttc max had an attempt 2 ago but had to j&d after just two minutes. In regards to your ff question I'd enter it all. If you're referring to the fertile days etc calculations then it will take these into account but being they were so similar anyway I don't tuunk it'd change much anyway :) I see your temp is level today! How are your opks looking? Can you post a pic?

ABC most of us use the ff phone app free version! Definitely worth downloading and then you can share your chart with us �� (rubs hands together ��)

Halley cannot wait to see your opk today!!! It's so going to be positive! I'll be clock watching ���� Interesting to see another temp in yesterdays range�� I'm excited to see if you get another clear shift in two mornings time! (If you get a pos opk today and o tomorrow then we should see a rise on Tuesday)

Mommy2apples sorry to hear about the car troubles! Hope its something minor and not major!

LMSM halfway to test test time! ������������������������


Mtolbert you start opks today too right??!!! So much about to start happening!!! Exciting times ahead!!!


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Are you now past 13 weeks PBN? How are you feeling?
Can't wait for Tuesday for your confirmation that Bub is and perfect as she looks :)

Yep, halfway indeed...I think I may wait until Sunday next week to test IF my temps are indicative of a possible BFP....I know I said Friday initially but will try to be patient :) right now am so not feeling this is our month that I want to be surenot whatever result Inread ;)

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:20 PM
LMSM I'm good! 12w4d today and yep I'm hanging on confirmation so I can tell my boys!!! That will be the most exciting announcement 😀 Of course they'll probably just be 'yep ok' 😂 but I'm hoping and thinking they'll be quite excited! My youngest LOVES babies and my oldest is fascinated with knowing how babies (and himself) were made. I've told him that mummy has an egg and daddy has a seed and when the egg and seed meet they grow a baby. Unfortunately he's too switched on and keeps asking more questions that I try and head off by changing the subject 😂😂

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mtolbert1
July 8th, 2017, 06:23 PM
Pbn- I only have 1 opk left and im going to use it on CD 14 because that's when I got positives the last 2 months (even though 2 months ago I didnt ovulate, idk why it was positive.) DH doesn't want me to buy more OPKs because he thinks its all getting my hopes up. I will go for bloodwork on CD 21 to check progesterone levels.
So far, dh is not wanting to stick to e3d. We BD last night (CD 10) so I'm going to try to make him wait until Monday (CD 13) to BD again.. wish me luck!

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:32 PM
Good luck! And hopefully dh will come around to the e3d idea. Just try your best to dissuade him from like 4-5 attempts in a row. If need be have him google how to get pregnant quickly and he'll see for himself that eod in fertile window is best and not every.single.day 😉 That may at least head off the daily bds but then if he insists on eod that sways blue 🤔.... or see if he'll come to a compromise that you do bding your way this cycle and if that doesn't work, his way next cycle?

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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 06:35 PM
Pbn3 temp slightly went up this morning and that was after a good nights sleep. I have not started watching the clock yet. When it gets close to 11 I probably will. Have a busy day so it should go fast. [emoji4]


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LMSM
July 8th, 2017, 06:47 PM
LMSM I'm good! 12w4d today and yep I'm hanging on confirmation so I can tell my boys!!! That will be the most exciting announcement �� Of course they'll probably just be 'yep ok' �� but I'm hoping and thinking they'll be quite excited! My youngest LOVES babies and my oldest is fascinated with knowing how babies (and himself) were made. I've told him that mummy has an egg and daddy has a seed and when the egg and seed meet they grow a baby. Unfortunately he's too switched on and keeps asking more questions that I try and head off by changing the subject ����

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Can understand your excitement at the prospect of telling your boys !!
My DD1 yesterday, out of the blue, told her dad,talking about me "I want you to have another baby when I am a kid, please I want a baby brother "...
and said she didn't want a baby when a adult herself because if they cut the tummy, she didn't want it, sô had to reiterate that it was her choice d it was not the most usual way of getting a baby out so she needn't worry herself about it ..and then she wanted to see how babies grow inside the tummy so Youtubed a vid of egg meeting swimmer all the way to fully grown fetus....she fortunately has not asked how the daddy cell and mummy cell meet in the mummy's body..yet :rofl:

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July 8th, 2017, 06:48 PM
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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 06:50 PM
Love those bright lines Iw4k!! I'm
So happy for you!
Lol lmsm! My four year sure does whip out the questions. Most recent is when did you get hair there, and why do you have hair there, and when will I get hair there... [emoji15]


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mtolbert1
July 8th, 2017, 06:50 PM
Im gonna do my absolute best to make him stick with it! What CD day do you recommend we go through? I know he wont make it until the end of my cycle!

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mtolbert just until your temps confirm o has likely taken place which is usually three days in a row of a sustained temp rise :)

LMSM nothing like being put on the spot 😂😂 Maybe I'll show ds1 the youtube vid but I know for sure it'll open up a whole lotta other questions 😣 they day you should be honest but he's like 5.5 and just does not need to knw these things yet 😩 I'm happy with a very pg rated version of the truth for now but I'm realising now his fascination will be tenfold once he knows there's a baby in my tummy 😂

Mommy2apples that's hilarios 😂😂 I've been asked where my doodle is a few times 😂😂😂

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 06:57 PM
Pbn3 temp slightly went up this morning and that was after a good nights sleep. I have not started watching the clock yet. When it gets close to 11 I probably will. Have a busy day so it should go fast. [emoji4]


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I'll clock watch for you 😉 excited for your update 😄

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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 06:57 PM
lol PBN [emoji23] from the mouth of babes!


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July 8th, 2017, 08:34 PM
LMSM, so sweet!! [emoji175]

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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 09:06 PM
Ttc max had an attempt 2 ago but had to j&d after just two minutes. In regards to your ff question I'd enter it all. If you're referring to the fertile days etc calculations then it will take these into account but being they were so similar anyway I don't tuunk it'd change much anyway :) I see your temp is level today! How are your opks looking? Can you post a pic?


I was just about to post a pic....
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This was just now. Looks like tomorrow will be positive! I bd yesterday around 2pm, should I bd again tonight?? Because if I get a positive tomorrow (assuming o will be day after) then tonight would be o-2 and according to the stats I've read, that's the most likely day to result in pregnancy.. right?? If I bd tonight then I will do tomorrow night and following morning/night as well.. what do you think is my best chances??

Edited to add: Also after I added March and April to ff, it changed o day to cd15, which would be correct if I get a +opk tomorrow and o the following day. So if I bd tonight, tomorrow and the day after then I'll have an attempt every day in the fertile window. Good or bad idea??

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 09:22 PM
Ttc 2-o and 1-o are best stats, some will say the former and some the latter. I'd be inclined to hold off until tomorrow if you think tomorrow will be pos opk (I'm out at a water park and the glare is teribble but your opk does look close what I can see 😀) Reason being is hubbys swimmers would have had 48 hours to recover and have a nice fresh load of soldiers ready to do battle plus if you o between 24 and 48 hours after pos opk then you want a fresh batch to be either 2-o or 1-o in case you o on the later side.... I get a little nervous about starting attempts before pos opk just in case of this... too many attempts before it counts just depletes the tank. I'd look at doing tomorrow at pos opk, following morning and night if doable as per the usual bd recommendation for blue. And just so happens to be a eod pattern going into 3 clumped attempts which is perfect!!😀😀

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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 09:28 PM
OK so tomorrow night or any time tomorrow?

And then following morning AND night.. what if dh doesn't want to twice in the same day? if I have to choose between one or the other, which would you suggest?

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 09:46 PM
Ttc blue if you do tomorrow anytime after confirmed pos opk then the following morning that's fantastic! I can only imagine how hard it'd be to do two attempts in one day! I would honestly choose to do an attempt at pos opk (regardless of what time its done) and following morning. That ideally gives you two attempts after following an eod pattern. My ds2 was a night before o and morning of o attempts (had also bded 2 or 3 days prior to pos opk) so I may be abit bias 😕 What is your gut telling you? I can advise what 'I' would do but I prefer you to go with what 'you' feel is right. I do feel strongly though you should hold off tonight and start your attempts (whether it's two or three) tomorrow at pos opk. O can be so unpredictable and I really think you should try and make sure your hubbys 'recovered' load count conception wise which at pos opk it will. Does that make sense? I have a habit of rambling on when trying to explain my thought process 😂

What do you other ladies think? What would you do? I think it's always helpful to have a few peoples inputs :)

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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 09:57 PM
Thank you so much Pbn! My gut is telling me to listen to someone other than myself or I'll be trying to make him bd 5 times a day :rofl: but no, honestly I really want 3 attempts but I don't know that dh will let me do 2 the same day :( I think I will do one attempt asap after +opk and then one the next morning. I will also try for that night but don't know if I'll get it. Either way I will start back up with eod after my last attempt..

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 10:12 PM
Sounds a good plan ttc!! And you can only try for the 3rd attempt, nothing ventured nothing gained as they say! Either way you'll have some strong attempts going into this 2ww 😀😀

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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 10:16 PM
Wait, with it being saturday today, dh will be off work tomorrow but back to work Monday. If I get a + tomorrow morning, could I bd right after, and then try to get dh to bd again tomorrow night (not guaranteed)? and then Monday morning/night (most likely night)?

Would am, pm, am give the same chances as pm, am, pm? I think I'd have a better chance getting 3 attempts in if i try to get 2 of them tomorrow.

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 10:19 PM
Ttc I think am, pm, am gives you even more chance at 3 attempts before o so if that is doable then go for it!!!

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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 10:24 PM
Pbn & ttc-I'm kind of leaning towards the plan for holding off until tomorrow at pos OPK too! My BFP this cycle was one O-1 attempt! For DS1 I had 2-3 attempts once I got a pos OPK! For DS2, I had 2-3 attempts when I thought I was supposed to O, but wasn't using OPKs.
Pbn-How are you going to give the baby news to your boys? How funny that your oldest is so curious about how he was made! I haven't gotten that yet luckily!
Mommy & pbn-I do get some questions though...DS1 has said "mommy, I don't peepee from my bottom like you, you don't have one of these?" (Pointing to himself) lol kids! 🤣
Butterfly-ABC & I were just having a convo about how it seemed common for boys to be conceived early on as our 2 boys were both conceived first cycle. It seems to sway pink the longer it takes, so fx for you!!! It took me 5 months this time, so we'll see...

Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 10:30 PM
Iwant4-wow gorgeous lines!!! I'm glad you bought more...it really is fun & reassuring to watch those lines get darker each day!!!

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 10:34 PM
Lola I think I'll show them the u/s pic and ask if they kow what it is first. Then I'll tell them it a picture of inside my tummy and see how that goes. My eldest is getting good at reading now so another thought is to write down 'mummy has a baby in her tummy' and get him to read it aloud, I got the idea from how Sky announced to her dd 😀

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TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 10:38 PM
Okay!! This is the part that always gets me all worked up is the bd planning lol! So I guess if I get a + in the am I'll go for am, pm, am and then back to eod. Or is that to much of a gap from am on o day until pm on o+2?

TtcBlue18
July 8th, 2017, 10:42 PM
Pbn & ttc-I'm kind of leaning towards the plan for holding off until tomorrow at pos OPK too! My BFP this cycle was one O-1 attempt! For DS1 I had 2-3 attempts once I got a pos OPK! For DS2, I had 2-3 attempts when I thought I was supposed to O, but wasn't using OPKs.
Pbn-How are you going to give the baby news to your boys? How funny that your oldest is so curious about how he was made! I haven't gotten that yet luckily!
Mommy & pbn-I do get some questions though...DS1 has said "mommy, I don't peepee from my bottom like you, you don't have one of these?" (Pointing to himself) lol kids! ��
Butterfly-ABC & I were just having a convo about how it seemed common for boys to be conceived early on as our 2 boys were both conceived first cycle. It seems to sway pink the longer it takes, so fx for you!!! It took me 5 months this time, so we'll see...

Yayyy, okay thank you Lola! I appreciate the input :) how far along are you now??

Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 10:45 PM
Okay!! This is the part that always gets me all worked up is the bd planning lol! So I guess if I get a + in the am I'll go for am, pm, am and then back to eod. Or is that to much of a gap from am on o day until pm on o+2?
Ttcblue if i makes you feel better about the gap then do your p.m attempt the day after your last a.m attempt. So will be 36 hour gap rather than 60 hours.... thik I've calculated that right 😂

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Lolabelle
July 8th, 2017, 11:22 PM
Pbn-love both of those announcement ideas!! Can't wait to hear their reactions!!
Ttc-9 weeks Monday! Appt for genetic/gender bw at 10 weeks eeeek! Your plan sounds perfect & great idea to continue with eod after...at least until you confirm O!!
On a random note, ever since the loud fireworks on July 4th, DS2 is terrified to sleep in his bed! He turned 2 in March and still in a crib. He just learned to climb out July 4th and poor guy was shaking all over. I've just given in to putting him in bed with us ugh! There's a loud storm tonight, so he's my thunder buddy right now, currently snoring next to me! How do I get him to stay in his bed all night again??? I already don't sleep well waking up many times to pee...it's only going to get harder for me with a growing belly!!

Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 11:45 PM
I feel like I will never get a positive opk [emoji20]


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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 11:46 PM
Lola I'm still struggling with stopping ds1 from co-sleeping so I'm no help at all 😂 poor bubba getting scared like that! Hopefully in a couple weeks he'll sleep through on his own again!

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 11:47 PM
I feel like I will never get a positive opk [emoji20]


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What!!!??? Not positive??!!

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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 11:48 PM
What!!!??? Not positive??!!

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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 11:50 PM
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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 11:52 PM
Hmmm it's still close but agree not as close as last nights... what time did you test last night? I'd test again the same time. Did you restrict fluids and hold for at least two prior to this test?

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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 11:54 PM
Tested at 6pm last night. I restricted fluids for just over two hours today.


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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 11:57 PM
Ok well test again at 6pm and we'll see how it looks :)

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Pbn3
July 8th, 2017, 11:58 PM
Try and hold from 4pm and only sip enough to get your mouth wet between now and then so we know you've got a good concentrated sample :)

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Mommy2apples
July 8th, 2017, 11:58 PM
Lola: I can't give any advice, our two year old sleeps with us too.
PBN! Can't wait to see their reaction!!


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Bluedreaming
July 8th, 2017, 11:59 PM
Yes I will test again tonight. We are bding this pm anyone. What if last nights was the closest to the positive I will get what do I do. Have I missed out this month? Or do we bd now and then late tonight?


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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 12:01 AM
Halley, my honest opinion, you have a chance of conceiving you have an eod approach and that is really good!


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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 12:03 AM
Thanks Mommy2apples. I haven't used opks before and I will admit they are stressing me a little. We will bd soon as both kids are asleep and then see what tonight's says


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 12:05 AM
Halley you'd have to be pretty unlucky if thats the case. I'd be surprised if that was your pos... You're due to bd again tonight in any case and if that was your pos we'd expect to see a rise in temp tomorrow morning. Of course it is possible but I'd rather wait and see this evenings opk first before considering that scenario :) Oh and no way would you 'miss' this month but we'll go into that after we see the next opk

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July 9th, 2017, 12:06 AM
We went to a Brett Young concert and took our oldest two :) 36989 it was a little street fair, but so much fun! Of course we didn't get very good pictures of him. They have a singer every year that's up and coming that year. 369903699136992 Ash and I got matching shirts! Lol 36993


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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 12:09 AM
Welcome girl!



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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 12:10 AM
So we should put of bding then?


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 12:13 AM
No not all Halley as you are due by eod anyway :) bd away!

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 12:13 AM
No, follow with you attempt tonight Halley!


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 12:13 AM
Mommy2apples look like a great time had by all!!! I have to admit I have no idea who Brett Young is though!

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 12:14 AM
Look up in case you didn't know, by Brett Young. He's new this year :) was really fun!


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July 9th, 2017, 12:16 AM
He's really cute too! Lol
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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 12:34 AM
Try and hold from 4pm and only sip enough to get your mouth wet between now and then so we know you've got a good concentrated sample :)

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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 12:55 AM
Pbn-love both of those announcement ideas!! Can't wait to hear their reactions!!
Ttc-9 weeks Monday! Appt for genetic/gender bw at 10 weeks eeeek! Your plan sounds perfect & great idea to continue with eod after...at least until you confirm O!!
On a random note, ever since the loud fireworks on July 4th, DS2 is terrified to sleep in his bed! He turned 2 in March and still in a crib. He just learned to climb out July 4th and poor guy was shaking all over. I've just given in to putting him in bed with us ugh! There's a loud storm tonight, so he's my thunder buddy right now, currently snoring next to me! How do I get him to stay in his bed all night again??? I already don't sleep well waking up many times to pee...it's only going to get harder for me with a growing belly!!

Yay can't wait for you to hit 10 weeks!!!

Aww, well I just lay my girls down in their bed together and I lay with them until they fall asleep and then I go to my own bed. Some nights I can actually lay them down wide awake and tell them "stay right here while mama goes to clean the kitchen and I'll be up soon to check on you" and they go to sleep on their own. I think it helps that they get to sleep together and they have minnie mouse light projections so they don't get scared being upstairs in the dark. That's actually the reason I have them share a room even though we have 2 spares. Makes my nights easier :) Dd2 still wakes up throughout the night, but I just go in there and lay next to her again until she goes back to sleep. Sometimes I get too comfy cuddling with the cuteness and end up spend the night between my baby loves. Hehe :heart:

I hope your poor little guy can conquer his fears soon!

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 01:06 AM
Mommy, that first pic of your daughter... oh my gosh she looks so much like you! At first glance I thought it was you! Sounds like a great time, I'm jealous. I just text hubby lyrics to that song just a couple days ago when I was missing him :)

butterfly8
July 9th, 2017, 02:34 AM
Are you temping to confirm when o is actually happening butterfly or going by o being day after pos opk? So your boys were conceived with one attempt at pos opk? Did you have a HE lifestyle when you conceived your boys? Have you been doing the LE diet this time around? Sorry for all the questions 😮 just trying to get some background info :) You said yesterday you're in the 2ww? What dpo are you and when will you test 😀

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No I have never temped before but maybe i should just to determine I def am i guess! I feel the ovulation pain .. My boys were not from just one attempt.. I would BD every day once or twice when I got my OPKs for 3-4 days

Im guessing I ovulated Monday so 5dpo.. ill start testing around day 9.. However I ALWAYS get cramping a week before AF so I usually don't even need to test because I can always fell AF coming..

Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 02:59 AM
Well if this cycle doesn't result in bfp (fx it does though 😀) would you be willing to try one attempt at pos opk as one attempt is what's getting good pink results and the closer to ovulation the better the conception odds. Cut off doesn't sway pink 😕 are you using shettles method? I'll post a link to an essay if you are as it has been scientifically debunked and makes for an interesting (and informative) read :) Are you on the le diet?

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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 03:01 AM
Halley this has been THE longest afternoon ever 😩 so ready to see your test.... one hour to go...

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 05:04 AM
Halley this has been THE longest afternoon ever [emoji30] so ready to see your test.... one hour to go...

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Hey it has been a very long afternoon. I have done a test in my opinion last nights looks darker. I will take a photo in about 10min as I am currently busy


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 05:11 AM
Hello ladies, will Catch up on the latest and greatest asap..hope all is well! :)
We had a busy day and kids are finally snoring away so will go get some hubby and me time :)

Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 05:26 AM
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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:35 AM
Yeah I agree that's lighter wow! Well you've certainly still got three attempts in fertile window if you bded today. A 3-o, 2-o and day of o attempts. If that was your pos last night and you o today then we should see a temp rise in the AM.

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 05:39 AM
Ok so we can bd tonight? And then in the morning?


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:43 AM
Yes for sure bd tonight. And definately won't hurt to bd in the morning. I'll be keen to check your chart tomorrow morning 🤔

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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:46 AM
👆 halley upon further thought, in reference to morning bd that's abit tricky. If you've oed and see a temp spike in the morning then its too late anyway, but if you haven't oed and your temp is lower then it may pay to stick to eod for now....

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 05:47 AM
Ok. I'm not sure what happened. Is it possible I haven't o at all and it didn't happen this month?
I will be curious to see chart too. By 7:25am i will have put my temp in.


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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 05:51 AM
Ok we will bd tonight and then see what temp says in the morning


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:56 AM
Well we don't if you've oed or not. If that was your pos opk last night then we should see a rise in temp tomorrow/possibly day after. That spike thats already happened occured during opks that were easily negative. So it doesn't add up that you would have already oed. You may have had a false surge or you may have geared up to o but didn't yet, doesn't mean it wont happen if it hasn't. Unfortunately its a waiting game at the moment, lets see what you temp does tomorrow and go from there. Keep going with the opks until we see either a sustained rise in your temps or a positive. It's all speculation and possible theories until the hard data comes in (the temps) 😕 I know it's frustrating as hell but it'll come together eventually and hopefully you'll have clear answers in the next couple days.

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 06:00 AM
So what does it mean if temp goes up tomorrow? I will do an opk tomorrow and we will bd tonight. I am so lost with it all. This is all new to me


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 06:09 AM
If temp goes up tomorrow it *could* mean you oed anytime between this mornings temp and tomorrow mornings temp. However you need to see a sustained rise before you can safely say you oed especially because that opk last night was questionable. If it had of been a 'no doubt that's positive' opk and followed with a rise tomorrow then yes we could say the likelihood that o happened is really good. But because it was close but still just off positive we are going to have to wait and see what your temps do over the next few days. Either that or maybe you'll get a no doubt pos opk in the next few days, we just don't know until more temps and opks are done... I know its confusing and there are so many variables that can come into play when things don't line up perfectly (pos opk followed by clear sustained shift) we just have to do the best analysis with what info we have and basically wait for more to come in until everything lines up and makes sense 😕

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 06:10 AM
Thank you. Time will tell and I am glad you know what your talking about.


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 06:16 AM
This will all make sense to you soon, you'll be able to look back on your chart and understand it. Goodnight and will check your chart in the AM. It's back to school here tomorrow woohoo 🎉🎉😂😂

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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 06:17 AM
Good night. Thank You so much


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IWant4Kids
July 9th, 2017, 07:21 AM
Mommy - I agree, missing clomid must be a sign. Hope you enjoyed the concert. Lovely pics

ABC - Hope you switch to FF so we can follow you...

LMSM - I was like you, not hopeful and look what happened. Hope you get 'that feeling' soon x

Max - So glad you got the extra BD in!!!

Butterly - My boys are the same age as yours!

Pbn3 - Love the ideas of telling the boys. Make sure you film it! I can't wait for that moment either!!

Mto - Good luck with the plan!

TTCblue - line is looking close! Yay!

Lola - Thank you! Couldn't resist....
Wohoooo 1 week. How long until you'll get the results?

Halley - Hope your temp goes up tomorrow or the next day so O can be confirmed! FX

AFM - Not feeling too unwell.....just tired. Hope I get more signs soon. One more week of holidays....they're going too fast!

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 07:42 AM
36994
Now let's hope dh wakes up before the children! :)

IWant4Kids
July 9th, 2017, 08:39 AM
Yay TTCblue!!!!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:59 AM
Thanks ttc! She's so photogenic! Love her!! It was really fun! One of my favorite songs right now!
Your little girls aww!! They are the cutest! Love how you get them to sleep! Wish I would've thought about that with my two little boys!!
Eek!! Yay, hope you got your bd in!!! Fx!!

Thanks Iw4k! I feel so too! It was really fun! Thanks so much! :)
When is your first appointment?

Halley: your opks maybe like mine and never get dark all the way, or maybe like PBN and you just haven't od yet, never hurts to go with eod method.




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maximbella
July 9th, 2017, 09:07 AM
Ttc yay!!

Lola, my girls also share a room and it has done wonders when one of them is scared. And they end up talking to each other before they fall asleep and their conversations are just [emoji7]


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Bluedreaming
July 9th, 2017, 09:25 AM
Thanks Iwant4kids I do hope so
Mommy2apples maybe that has happened too. Guess we will find out tomorrow or the next day.
If this month doesn't work out we might try eod and see how that goes


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 12:57 PM
Thanks ttc! She's so photogenic! Love her!! It was really fun! One of my favorite songs right now!
Your little girls aww!! They are the cutest! Love how you get them to sleep! Wish I would've thought about that with my two little boys!!
Eek!! Yay, hope you got your bd in!!! Fx!!

Thanks Iw4k! I feel so too! It was really fun! Thanks so much! :)
When is your first appointment?

Halley: your opks maybe like mine and never get dark all the way, or maybe like PBN and you just haven't od yet, never hurts to go with eod method.




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I haven't got it in yet but my + was just this morning. Trying to get dh ready without letting him know it's attempt time! Hopefully I can get one today, tomorrow morning and tomorrow night.

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 01:00 PM
Ttc!! I'm rooting for you!!! 🤞[emoji120]


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NACIREMADREAM
July 9th, 2017, 02:12 PM
Aloha! Just wanted to say I'm back from Maui and trying to catch myself up. It's so hard to throw myself back into the group because I don't have a clue about whats going on now:think:

Mommy2apples - I'm sorry af decided to come:sad:FX so hard this is cycle is your month!

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 03:05 PM
He freaking pulled out. :tissue:

So if we bd again tonight and then in the morning, will that still sway blue? Or will we end up swaying pink since his sperm count will be lower?

I'm so freaking upset, I don't know what to do. He hadn't pulled out at all since af started and then day of positive opk he pulls out. But he didn't know it was an attempt so he feels bad and wants to try again tonight and in the am. But I'm afraid that will sway pink...

If day after +opk is O day then that means we had an attempt O-3 and now a screw up on O-1. He says he didn't get completely out (sorry tmi) but he says "There might be like 1/10 of it in there"

Someone please help, I need advice..

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 03:59 PM
So glad you are back Naci!! Missed you! It's alright! I feel it'll be my cycle!
Aww ttc! That really sucks! I believe you still have a boy chance!


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 04:12 PM
Naci, welcome back! Hope you enjoyed your vacation.

Mommy, what would you do if you were swaying for a boy? Bd again tonight and in the morning? Or wait til next cycle..

Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 04:21 PM
Oh no ttcblue 😢 I've just woken up and seen this. I'm at a bit of a loss and unsure what you should do tbh. Let me wake up abit and I'll come back but for now I'm almost thinking your going to have to get more attempts in because a 3-o and unintentional pull out attempt (with a small amount released before exit) at 1-o sounds more pink territory to me then adding more attempts. The idea for multiple attempts is having as many swimmers up there as possible so even though he pulled out this morning with a fresh batch (men 😠) you still have a chance of getting more up there with an attempt tonight and tomorrow AM. I know there's little recovery time now for these other attempts but I'm just trying to think what the lesser evil is 😕 Can you pm xxforhubby with a screenshot of your chart and ask her advice (she's my go to) and I'll keep thinking on it this morning. It's first day back at school so I may be a bit slow to respond over the next few hours but will do my best xxoo Again I'm so sorry things have gone this direction ❤

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 04:27 PM
I would honestly get as many attempts in as I could ttc!


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 04:34 PM
Yeah that's what I'm leaning towards to mommy2apples. I worry if the cycle is abandoned now there's a 3-o and just on release pull out at 1-o which arent the greatest odds of conception BUT definately still have some chance which is really pink....

The only other option I can think of is going to the pharmacy and getting an after morning pill........


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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 04:36 PM
I'd hate for her to do that, what if it is her boy.


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 04:41 PM
Well its designed to prevent fertilistion from happening mommy2apples so the sperm doesn't get to fertilise the egg. So in no way is it a termination of an embryo unless taken aften ovulation I guess.... I would never had suggested it otherwise ☺ Here's a brief description
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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 04:42 PM
I know, just thinking of the what ifs.


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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 04:43 PM
I got my boys by every day of the month, but lol I also got ash that way too.


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 04:50 PM
It's such a hard decision for ttcblue to make, I feel really bad for her after the effort put in so far. And you're right, she could easily go on to have a boy with some extra attempts and maybe even without but I just want her to have no regrets 😦 its such a tough one.....

Ttcblue go easy on dh as much as you want to kick his butt. Maybe after this mornings bungle he will just let you take control but if you berate him too much he may throw the whole idea out the window xxoo

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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 05:05 PM
Ttc - I am so sorry about what's going on. Such a tough spot to be in. I agree with Pbn to go easy on dh. I bet he is already bummed about the pull out.
The what ifs are the worse so whatever you decide we are here to support. Hugs.


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 05:19 PM
Pbn, Thank you so much for getting back to me. I'm getting rather frustrated with dh. I got really emotional after he told me he pulled out (I wouldn't know because we were in the shower) and I started crying and told him it was my 1st attempt. Then he said he was sorry because he didn't know and said he wants to try again tonight and in the am but I said no because it would sway pink.. Now he says he didn't actually "finish" (tmi warning) ...He says he felt a"gush" and when he pulled out there was white clumps on him and he thought I had a yeast infection and it grossed him out but he didn't want to hurt my feelings. I think what he saw was the preseed with a small amount of baking soda in it. But yeah, so long story short, he says he didn't really finish, but I don't know if that's true or if he's just saying that because he feels bad. I will pm xx and ask her opinion.. thanks again pbn!

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 05:21 PM
Thank you sky! I'm really confused right now :(

Mommy, thank you.. that makes me feel better. Right now I'm thinking I will bd tonight and in the am, as I've never really liked the idea of the day after pill (though not going to lie, it crossed my mind) I would just never forgive myself if I took that thing and then didn't concieve next month. I can't bring myself to stop a possible pregnancy for any reason.. I can't help but feel like this is my punishment for sneaking behind his back for extra attempts :(

Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 05:34 PM
I would definitely advise you to ask xxforhubby and Pbn since I don't know more myself. However I just want to ask when did your opk turned positive? I think having more attempts after pos opk is the best for blue and if you and dh havebn having sex pretty regularly from af then the swimmers should be fine. O happens 24-48 hours after pos opk so do u think u still have time? Again, the best idea is to ask xx.


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 05:41 PM
My positive was 6:30 this morning, last night it was close at 8:00. We bd cd 7, 10, 12 and 14 (which was today). How do I find xx to pm her?

Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:46 PM
Ttcblue I'll pm her for you as I use tapatalk and not sure how the desktop pms work :) I'll ask her to come in and read the last few pages of posts xxoo

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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 05:49 PM
Go to home page of GD where you see forum, unread messages, Subscribe. Just above subscribe there are three lines,u click on that then you will see your name and a drop
Down and one of the option is send a new pm. That's where u need to send a pm from. Let me know if you can't find it. I can send pictures of screenshots.


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 05:50 PM
Just pmed her ttcblue :)

Thanks Sky 😀

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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 05:53 PM
Oh I didn't know ttc blue uses desktop. I also have tapatalk.
I still feel that if the pos was 6:30
Am today then u still have a good shot at trying pm today, am tomorrow and pm tomorrow.
Or wait until am tomorrow then pm and then again day after am.
But my knowledge is way limited so please wait for xxforhubby' response. She and Pbn are the ones I would ask.
Or you can always start a new thread and ask Atomic.
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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 05:54 PM
Just pmed her ttcblue :)

Thanks Sky [emoji3]

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 05:57 PM
You all are awesome! Love you all! This is the greatest site, I've ever been too. Everyone supports each other!


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NACIREMADREAM
July 9th, 2017, 05:59 PM
Mommy2apples Thank you so much! I’m so happy to be back! I missed talking to you and cheering you on :) I’m so excited that your hopeful for this cycle!

Ttcblue18 Thank you! I really did enjoy my time away with the kiddos and DH! How have you been? FX this is your month and you get that baby boy!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 06:00 PM
Welcome Naci!! When is your first appointment?


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 06:01 PM
Just pmed her ttcblue :)

Thanks Sky ��

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Oh thank you pbn! You are amazing! I actually found her and messaged her before I saw this. I use my tablet.. I don't know what Tapatalk is though.. I sure hope he's telling the truth when he says he didn't really finish. I don't think bd should be this stressful.

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 06:07 PM
Naci, That's good. I'm glad you were able to head out with such amazing news. I can't wait to see your little peanut :heart: My babies are good, dh is good, I was good until all of this.

IWant4Kids
July 9th, 2017, 06:13 PM
I have some mild cramps this morning and some light brown CM! Ash, is this what you had? Went back to my notes and with DS1 I had the same 15dpo and today I am 15dpo. I hope all is okay!!! FX for me ladies

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 06:19 PM
Prayers for you Iw4k!! It'll be alright!!


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 06:25 PM
I would definitely advise you to ask xxforhubby and Pbn since I don't know more myself. However I just want to ask when did your opk turned positive? I think having more attempts after pos opk is the best for blue and if you and dh havebn having sex pretty regularly from af then the swimmers should be fine. O happens 24-48 hours after pos opk so do u think u still have time? Again, the best idea is to ask xx.


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Wait, it happens a minimum of 24 hours after positive?? I thought it was 12? So at the very soonest i should O at 6:30 am tomorrow?

Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 06:26 PM
Iwant4kids- Ash had the same thing. I think they say it's the old blood or the implantation blood if it's brown. Don't stress. Just take it easy for a few days. ❤️ Fx all is ok. Praying for you.


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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 06:27 PM
Wait, it happens a minimum of 24 hours after positive?? I thought it was 12? So at the very soonest i should O at 6:30 am tomorrow?

That's what I have always read everywhere. O happens between 24-48 hours from
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XXforhubby
July 9th, 2017, 06:47 PM
TTCblue- I answered your PM [emoji6]!

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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 07:16 PM
Morning!

TTcblue – so sorry that your plans have gone down the drain but I would totally agree with the ladies, BD tonight and tomorrow if you can, which will likely still sway more blue than pink..especially since you’ve done so well with your sway and eod this month!!
I remember reading than to be considered a pink sway with lots of releases, you’d need DH to release at least once a day for like 5-7 days in a row which isn’t the case here – yes it’s not ideal that you “lost” that fresh batch, but given you are just about to O, it’s probably best to BD more rather than not – hopefully the ladies that have some expertise will be able to help! ;)
Usually O is around that 24h mark post pos opk – BUT you can have a short surge and O very quickly after the pos opk so that 12h is possible- less likely than the 24-48 h window, but really depends when you caught the surge too!

Naci – so happy you had the lovely time on Maui – can’t wait for the update once you see your OB! ;)

Iwant4 – praying for you that baby bean remains sticky! If it’s brown, it’s old blood so hopefully nothing to worry about too much esp considering you had this at the exact time for your DS2 – might just be baby is digging into your uterus that bit more – or your cervix can have these discharges with the hormonal changes!!

PBN – hope the getting your boy back to school has been ok ;) I hate the increase in traffic and people once school holidays are over lol

Mommy – what a nice outing you all together – looks like you had a great time! And so cute – your daughter def is a mini you!
I don’t know that singer but looks like I might have to look him up, esp if he is a bit of an eye candy too hehe
Is it today (Monday ) you are starting the Clomid hon?

This am feeling blah – sore throat all the way up to one ear and achy muscles – just hope my lemon water and good thoughts will ward it off :P
We had a great weekend – M loved going to her friend’s Bday party – apparently all the girls love him, he is the little heartthrob – at lunch, she said to me “ Mummy, when you have a baby boy can we name him Cohen please?” (name of the little boy’s whose Bday we attended)..didn’t realise these love stories thing started so early :rofl: - having said that, my 1st “boyfriend” was since we were 3 until we were 10 when he moved away –longest relationship I’ve had before meeting DH lol
Anyways, I ramble – take care lovelies!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 07:45 PM
Lmsm! Thank you! Been hearing that a lot lately. Used to hear she looked just like her dad! Started clomid today :) The singer is such a cutie! Look him up!
Hope you feel much better! Aww so cute about your baby girl! Glad she had fun! what did you end up getting him? We have a Cohen in our family. Dh's side.
When do you start the tww?


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 07:50 PM
Lmsm! Thank you! Been hearing that a lot lately. Used to hear she looked just like her dad! Started clomid today :) The singer is such a cutie! Look him up!
Hope you feel much better! Aww so cute about your baby girl! Glad she had fun! what did you end up getting him? We have a Cohen in our family. Dh's side.
When do you start the tww?


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My kids get told they look just like Dad all.the.time – good thing I know I carried them :P
They have his almond shaped eyes – but other than that, they look so much like me as a kid – not that people know – so frustrating lol
Woohoo for starting Clomid! :D
We ended up getting him a Nija Turtle figurine thingy – M’s choice ;)
Am already in the tww – 6dpo today!!! :D

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 07:53 PM
Lol always love hearing that huh! [emoji6] too bad you can't carry around a photograph of you in your childhood and be like see who they look like? Lol
Aww, bet he loved that for sure!!
Oh yay!!! Oh so excited!! Can't wait until you test!!


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:15 PM
Just to explain Sky and avoid confusion the dilemma this morning was that ttcblue got her pos op this morning and was having her one of three attempts after a 48 break. So hubbys sperm load would have been recovered and a healthy size ready to go. He has pulled out instead of releasing in ttcblue (although he now says he didn't really finish and we are hoping he's telling the truth 😉) so the worry was she was going into o with a 3-o attempt, a 1-o attempt with little to no swimmers and two more attempts only 12 hours apart (so little recovery time). I think the idea of 3 attempts is to swamp the area with as much sperm as possible and that very first attempt at 1-o will always have the largest load if there's been a bd break and theother two attempts keep it topped up. I do think though like everyone else that better to keep going than not.

Ovulation usually takes place 12-48 hours after first pos opk. It just seems to happen mostly during the day after pos but there are always exceptions. Quite a few people tend to o two days after pos, some even 3 :) That's why it's good to have at least 3 practice cycles going into to ttc so you get a feel for when you o, but then of course things often decide to go haywire just when you think you have a pattern 😂

Iwant4kids I'm sorry about the spotting 😦 but agree it should be ok because its brown. Mine was too but I was more worried about the clot that followed and the persistent and quite strong cramps I had for the week following. When will you ring for your results? And you'll go in Tuesday for the second draw? Hope both that the spotting ceases and your betas give you you some comfort. I know how hard it is and I struggled alot this pregnancy with yo-yo'ing between being excited then being mad at myself for letting myself get excited because things could still go wrong 😩 All you can do is take it a day at a time ❤❤❤

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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 08:32 PM
Hey ladies! Just wanted to update!

So dh swears he didn't actually finish and that he stopped because he lost interest when he thought I had a yeast infection. I do actually believe him because the preseed and baking soda looked rather odd after we dtd.. Not sure why because I didn't use much at all. But he had no idea I was using anything because he didn't know it was attempt time.

Sooo, I left the decision up to him. I said if you want me to, I'll take the day after pill, we can throw out this month and try the next two instead. He said no, there was no reason to. He wanted to do this month.

So we just finished bd--about 12 hours after positive opk (but I took another opk an hour before this attempt--no hold--and it was still just as positive as this morning, if that makes any difference).

Sky: I made sure I got the big O and have had my legs/hips elevated for nearly an hour!

Thank all of you ladies for your help, advice, support and understanding! :heart:

:fx:

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:34 PM
Eek ttc!!! So excited for you!!! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞[emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120][emoji120]


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:36 PM
Ttcblue this is the best news ever!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

I'm so happy for you and yes preseed looks gross when it comes out so I cant imagine how it looked with baking soda 😂😂 speaking of which are you doing the bsf? For all attempts? So another attempt tonight? Gosh I cant tell you how relieved I am and just thrilled for you 😀😀😀

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:37 PM
PBN, is wet mucus still fertile mucus? I don't get the stretchy kind anymore. I know it's good for a girl, but I still worry about it.


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 08:37 PM
TTC – I think that is the best outcome considering – FX now hon! ;)

Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:39 PM
Yes mommy2apples wet is still fertile :) I went months and months with no ewcm when on the LE diet but usually still had a day or so of wet even if i was sparse :)

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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 08:39 PM
I have some mild cramps this morning and some light brown CM! Ash, is this what you had? Went back to my notes and with DS1 I had the same 15dpo and today I am 15dpo. I hope all is okay!!! FX for me ladies

Im sorry, I didn't mean to hit like on this. It must have happened as I was scrolling. I hope everything is okay. I'm sure it is! I think it's rather common to have brown early on since it's just old blood. I will pray for you and your nugget just incase!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:39 PM
Thanks PBN! :)


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 08:39 PM
I was going to ask about the BSF too – I thought that was not recommended now? :( or should I have done it too? !
In any case, yippee!!

LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 08:41 PM
Oh and yes Mommy, wet mucus is fertile – is it slippery – thick, white, transparent? Tell us all! :rofl:

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:42 PM
Transparent and slippery. Thin.
What is bsf?


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:43 PM
Yeah me too LMSM but I'm not up on the latest boy tactics so not sure if its made a comeback? Pretty sure I've read some still using it when they fill out the ttc a boy sway form 🤔

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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:43 PM
Transparent and slippery. Thin.
What is bsf?


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Baking soda finger

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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 08:44 PM
Oh okay, yea was thinking all of that like douching and stuff is frowned on now


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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 08:46 PM
Ttc - If I were you, I would have done the same. If your dh is that sure, I don't see a reason to not believe him. [emoji4] The fact that opk is still dark is an added assurance. Yay for big O and hips in the air. I have a feeling that it's all good. The month I got my bfp, we did two attempts after pos opk and couldn't do the next night and I was so mad but we did the night after the skipped night. And my temp
always went up day after pos O but that month it didn't until 2 days. I don't know if my sway worked or not but I learnt that no month is going to be perfect. This is life and things will
Always go haywire. Let's just keep our Fx and go for plan B if A didn't work. Fx for you so tight.
Also, I was curious what did xx say? Just for knowledge.
Pbn - I understand what you wrote. It makes sense. That's y I always ask everyone to listen to you and xxforhubby because I am still learning. [emoji51]



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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 08:47 PM
It alters the ph to make it more alkaline or acidic (cant recall which is which) but ph has been debunked anyway I thought? However as the saying goes 'your sway your way' :) and I agree with that statement 100%

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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 08:56 PM
I asked atomic about bsf when I first joined and she said she doesn't believe in it anymore but there are many who do. She recommended that if I can't let go of ph, just add a very small amount to the preseed, which is what I do.. just a pinch between my index finger and thumb.

Pbn, I'm doing pm, am, pm :)

Sky, xx said that if he did pull out to do 1 attempt either tonight or tomorrow, but don't do both. I'm taking his word that he didn't finish and continuing with the original 3 attempts plan.

LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 09:00 PM
More alkaline PBN ;) – you want an alkaline environment for boys and acidic for girls – in theory - which I believed has been debunked – but you’re right “your sway, your way’ – and if used with parsimony unlikely to be too problematic…

LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 09:01 PM
TTC I agree that if he didn’t finish, wisest is to continue with your plan to harness all that swimmer goodness :D

TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 09:09 PM
Yeah, I knew it had been debunked.. I think the reason I have a hard time letting go of ph theory is because my OB told me herself to douche with baking soda to get a boy. She claims she got the genders she wanted for all 3 children simply by altering ph. I know this may be a coincidence, but my mind can't help but wonder, what if it's true for only certain people? Our bodies are so different and react in such different ways. I douched with baking soda once a day for 1 week back in February and for the first time in my life I produced ewcm. And not just a little, it was literally like stretching out of me all the way to the toilet water when I would pee. So sorry for the mental image lol. But I have also heard it can prevent pregnancy, which is why I met in the middle... I don't douche at all now, but for only 1 attempt each month I will add a little bs to my preseed to ease my mind :)

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 09:11 PM
Sounds good to me ttc! I'm excited for you!


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 09:11 PM
More alkaline PBN ;) – you want an alkaline environment for boys and acidic for girls – in theory - which I believed has been debunked – but you’re right “your sway, your way’ – and if used with parsimony unlikely to be too problematic…
Can you dumb down that last sentence for me?.😂

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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 09:13 PM
Sounds good to me too ttcblue especially if its created an abundant of ewcm for you! And fully agree, some things work for some people that don't for others so you pick and choose what works for you! So excited for you!!

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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 09:18 PM
Can you dumb down that last sentence for me?.��

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:rofl: - = if you only use little it’s not likely to be an issue ;)

Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 09:21 PM
😂😂😂 thank you 😘

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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 09:22 PM
You ladies Crack me up! :rofl:

Oh I'm so excited about this cycle and thank you all for putting me in a much better mood!

Lolabelle
July 9th, 2017, 09:40 PM
I'm just tuning in after a busy day & think I'm all caught up now!
Ttc-I'm so happy to hear you got that attempt in after the pull-out issue. I was seriously lol with the thought of the preseed & baking soda looking like a yeast infection to your DH 🤣I could see how that might happen🤣 woohooo for not throwing out this cycle after alllll of your hard BD work!!
Iwant4-it does sound like some normal spotting. I do remember Ash having that & as others mentioned-maybe old blood or from Ash's BD patterns after BFP. Don't know if you have continued BDing. I always put myself off limits until at least the 1st appt 🤣
Mommy-what beautiful pics of your family earlier!! Looks like a great time!!
LMSM-how cute that your girls are ready for their baby brother and naming him after a crush lol!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 09:43 PM
Lola! Thank you! Was so much fun! This year we have been a lot of fun things with the kids this summer. Nice to have a little extra money. Usually just sit at home.


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TtcBlue18
July 9th, 2017, 09:48 PM
Thanks Lola! It has been a long day for me but such a fantastic way to end it! How are you doing today?

Lolabelle
July 9th, 2017, 10:00 PM
Ttc & Max-meant to thank you for mentioning that it has helped for your kiddos to sleep in the room together. I had planned to eventually move DS2 in the room with DS1 when baby #3 arrives...maybe I'll get started on that now! Tried tonight, but they played & played & kept calling for us. Finally, the are actually both asleep in their own rooms! Fx DS2 sleeps through the night! He used to!!!!
Ttc-thanks for asking! A busy, but fun day with kiddos & my mom kept my mind off the fact that I just feel blah! No energy & just that hungover feeling like I have been out partying all hours of the night lol. I have to get up & use the restroom many times during the night now, so it's definitely disrupting my sleep. I know that's not going away any time soon & will only help prepare me for baby!!

IWant4Kids
July 9th, 2017, 10:14 PM
Quick message....

HCH from 14dpo was 277, so looking good. No more brown CM, only when I had a BM (TMI). Seems quite common on google

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 10:16 PM
Love that Iw4k! Baby is going to be great!!


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Pbn3
July 9th, 2017, 10:17 PM
Great news Iwant4kids 😀😀

Lola I don't know if you remember but I was going like 4-6 times during the night at one stage 😩 the last few nights though I've slept through so hopefully have reached that turning point on the frequent peeing and hope then same happens for you!

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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 10:39 PM
Mommy2apples- I forgot to mention about the pics. Love the pics. The same tshirts one was adorable. I love your hair. It suits u a lot.
Ttc - Did you try taking Mucinex for cm? I did that and had plenty of cm. I was worried to do bsf so went with Mucinex. I did that with each ttc cycle. I also heard that bs can prevent pregnancy.


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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 10:42 PM
Thanks Sky. I do actually like my hair a lot better. Sister is going to add some highlights in it soon. Cannot wait for that! It's due for some color! Yea dd was tickled to have matching shirts!
How have you been feeling?


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 10:44 PM
Iwant4 – that looks like great news!! The fact it was durting a BM, may be the straining that could have caused that – as it’s brown and if it doesn’t happen again/no pain, likely all is good ;)

LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 10:45 PM
Lola, I can so totally sympathise with the peeing – I had crap sleep from the get go for all my pregnancies – between struggling to go and stay asleep, peeing a zillion times a night, nightmares you name it lol
I hope it eases for you soon – hormones do so much to our bodies - not fun!

Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 10:48 PM
I haven't been feeling too good. Low on energy and bothered by the smells. I hate cooking at this time. [emoji849]Sorry for the rant. I do have good days but not for a few days now.
My dd would be thrilled to have matching shirts. I am thinking about it too now. That's a great idea. Something about having matching things with their moms makes the girls super excited.
Can't wait to see your pics with the highlights.


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 10:52 PM
Rant away – pregnancy isn’t all fairies and unicorns now – we wish! :P
I hope you feel better soon – those early weeks are always the toughest to get through but the haze will likely lift as the hormones level out around that 10-12week mark – hang in there!
When is your 12 week scan btw?? Soon I am sure considering how fast time

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 10:56 PM
Aww Sky! Rant away girl! Sorry you've not been feeling well! Does it usually go away for you in the 2nd trimester or will you have it usually the whole 9 months? I was sick with my oldest two the whole 9 months. So I can definitely sympathize!
Definitely! Little girls love being like their mom! You'll have to share pictures when you get matching shirts!
Me too! I'm excited for her to do it!


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Skyblue
July 9th, 2017, 11:03 PM
Thanks ladies. I love to be able to speak my mind here. You all are the best.
LMSM - I will be 10 weeks coming Thursday and have an appointment with NP on Friday to discuss genetic screening. Will keep you all posted.
When are you POAS?
Mommy2apples- My first pregnancy was an easy breezy one. I ate everything and was always full of energy. [emoji52][emoji52] This one not so much. I really hope that it gets better soon. I m so fed up of everything tasting so bitter. [emoji849][emoji849] The good thing is that as crappy as I feel, I m atleast not throwing up.



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Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 11:05 PM
So glad you aren't throwing up! Fx and prayers that these symptoms disappear for you soon!


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LMSM
July 9th, 2017, 11:10 PM
Thanks ladies. I love to be able to speak my mind here. You all are the best.
LMSM - I will be 10 weeks coming Thursday and have an appointment with NP on Friday to discuss genetic screening. Will keep you all posted.
When are you POAS?
Mommy2apples- My first pregnancy was an easy breezy one. I ate everything and was always full of energy. [emoji52][emoji52] This one not so much. I really hope that it gets better soon. I m so fed up of everything tasting so bitter. [emoji849][emoji849] The good thing is that as crappy as I feel, I m atleast not throwing up.



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Oh exciting, almost 10 weeks already!!!so you’ll do the NIPT!? I didn’t for both of my DD’s pregnancies, but now that I am older and my SIL having had to terminate a T18 pregnancy, I am determined to do it for more peace of mind… it is great that the option is there – I am not one for medicated/high tech pregnancies but any screening I can do to help make sure all is ok I am all up for^6 can’t wait for your update!!
I was the same with my DDs – feeling like hell H24 but at least not vomiting - but it still feels miserable!!

I am determined to be patient this cycle – I will not POAS earlier than Friday which is 10dpo, but likely won’t poas until Saturday or even Sunday – FF is announcing AF according to its predictions on Monday so any result then should be pretty accurate! I think it will also depend on how my chart is looking and if I have anything giving me any hope – not feeling preggers right now – just sick (flu ish symptoms)

Lolabelle
July 9th, 2017, 11:48 PM
Pbn-I do remember your frequent restroom trips-glad it seems to have improved! LMSM & pbn-thanks, sure hope it gets better too...peeing & nightmares lol. DS2 is sound asleep in his bed as I type, but the last couple of night have been rough with him getting up, sleeping in our bed & frequent potty trips for me 🤣
Iwant4-that's great to hear!
Sky-sorry you haven't been feeling well! It's so hard to "adult" some days when preggo! Hang in there! [emoji173]
I'm off to get some sleep before I have to pee again 🤣 or DS2 wakes up...
Night ladies!

Mommy2apples
July 9th, 2017, 11:50 PM
Night Lola! Fx that little guy stays a sleep and your peeing and nightmares stays away so you get mist needed sleep!


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TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 12:59 AM
Lola: So glad you all are doing good. I tell dh all the time i hate being pregnant bit i love having babies :) i hope your pregnancy can ease up and be a little less exhausting. Yes mine would stay up playing too when we first started out. I made sure to stay with them, in the middle, until they feel asleep. If they talked i would just say shhh. Eventually they got the hang of it and learned that they have to go to sleep. Once they got into the routine (I've had my girls sleeping together for almost a year and we just got to this point) I can now lay them down and leave and they put themselves to sleep while waiting for me to come back up and check on them. Its a long process but totally worth it. When they wake up they call for me but they know mom and dad's bed is off limits, they don't even go in our room. Sorry it took so long to respond. I feel asleep with the kids when I put them to bed lol.

Sky: I have tried mucinex (1200 MG guaifenesin) and I didn't notice any difference :( I guess it doesn't hurt to try again though. I'll take some in the morning with my 2nd attempt, thanks for the reminder! :)

TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 06:42 AM
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I know opk doesn't make a difference anymore, but it just made me happy to see that's it's almost positive this morning still. Here to attempt #2 :)

IWant4Kids
July 10th, 2017, 07:19 AM
TTC - Sorry for what you went through last night. Remember that diet impacts a lot and you've changed that since your girls. Yay so glad to read your update!!! FX

Mommy, Sky, LMSM & TTC -Thanks for your prayers and well wishes.

LMSM - Sorry you're feeling unwell, but yay too! Good sign.

Pbn3 - Thanks for the reassurance. I think I've been over doing things physically, so I need to slow down and rest. I never rest on holidays and I need to this time especially. PJ day tomorrow.

Lola - Yeah it wasn't from BDing....I'm off limits LOL. Sorry to hear about the broken sleep....I haven't got much in a week.

Sky - Sorry to hear you're not feeling great. Hope it passes soon x


Sorry for my short messages today....
So my brown CM was during a BM this morning....but it was the kind of BM you have on the first day of AF (do you know what I mean?)....I started feeling a bit crampy too, which had me worried. It has stopped now and was only so faint when I wiped. I also have a cough and cough a lot at night, which could be impacting. I think I will have a panadol before bed tonight so I sleep and don't cough.
My HCG results are very reassuring! Going it for second draw tomorrow and will get them back on Wed.
Bought a car today! But won't get it until later in the week :cheerteam::cheerteam:

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TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 07:35 AM
Iw4k: Thanks, We just got our 2nd attempt, so we have one 12 hours after +opk and another 24 hours after +opk. I don't think I will be able to get anymore bd in until the day after tomorrow so O-3, O-1 and O day will have to suffice. Back to eod from here, and I'm officially in the 2ww. I really hope this is my cycle because dh and I do not enjoy the planned bd..

Love the new vehicle! I wouldn't worry about nugget, he/she seems to be doing very well and you had such beautiful line progression. I still think the brown and mild cramps are completely normal in early pregnancy. Google says it's just results of Bub burying in the uterine line deeper, so I think it's a good sign! :)

Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 10:07 AM
Ttc: I'm going to have to do that with my boys for sure! Getting kicked every night ugh! Lol eek loving seeing that line too!!

Very welcome Iw4k! Hope you are feeling better! The brown blood is old blood, your lines progressed to beautiful for it to be anything wrong. My mom actually had a period every month with me, and I came out okay! Your baby is going to be great!
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Lolabelle
July 10th, 2017, 11:26 AM
Beautiful car Iwant4!! Yay!! Glad the brown spotting has stopped! Your hcg levels are great!
Ttc-thanks for all of the tips! Sounds like a great plan! I will have to work on their sleeping! Everything was great until July 4th! I spoke too soon last night...DS2 crawled out of his crib & got in bed with us!! We are creating a bad habit I need to stop soon! I think we may get the toddler bed from my mom's house & put it in the room with DS1. DS1 sleeps in a tall queen size bed & loves it! He stretches out & rolls all over the bed during the night! I think DS2 would like his own bed, but in the same room! Yayyy for getting your 2nd attempt in & happy 2WW [emoji322][emoji322]

Lolabelle
July 10th, 2017, 11:29 AM
Mommy-I know getting kicked & not having space is tough! DS2 is also like a heater! With 90 degree days here & being pregnant, I'm always hot at night, even with AC! I'm usually cold-natured! Slept terribly last night, but luckily DH got up with the boys & I got my best sleep in the AM [emoji4]

Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 11:47 AM
Glad he let you sleep IN Lola! That was awesome of him!!


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Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 12:36 PM
Came today! Yay! Oh and the other 5 clomid are still not in. Oh well! 37005


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Lolabelle
July 10th, 2017, 01:16 PM
Yay mommy! I really liked using these & comparing with my wondfos! The smiley visual really helped & much easier using fmu, although I did do a hold later in the day for the wondfos...

Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 01:18 PM
Yea, going to continue with the wondfos two times a day as well. 1pm and 7pm :) then if I get a flashy smiley that morning and wondfo actually looks positive, I'm going to confirm with the other clear blue with just one smiley too


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TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 01:26 PM
Mommy: Thanks, and so excited to see your tests are here! This will be a great cycle!

Lola: Don't beat yourself up too much, lots of mamas cosleep. There's nothing wrong with that. Dd1 slept in my bed until dd2 was born (age 2). And dd2 slept in my bed until age 1. After she was done nursing I moved her to her own room. My girls have a queen size bed too, but they share it. Takes up less space than 2 beds in their room and makes bedtime easier on me because I don't hurt either of their feelings by cuddling with the other, I just lay in the middle :) dh thinks it's weird, but I think it's fine for while theyre little, and honestly don't see a problem with it even when they're older (unless they want their own bed/room). My girls sleep through the night better when they can cuddle together, but boys might be different. Never had one, so idk maybe they like their own space.. hopefully (for my sake, IF I get one!)

Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 01:28 PM
Welcome ttc! Thank you and fx!!
Lol girl my boys like their mommy to.


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TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 01:36 PM
Right! I'm hoping that if I have a 3rd I can get dh to keep him/her every night while I put the girls to bed and then I'd come back to put baby to bed (with me for the first year) lol. I just don't know how a boy would react when he's 1 and imove him to his own room, and the girls get to "slumber party" every night while he's stunk in bed by himself :/ I already think of things like this and not even preggers lol.

Mommy2apples
July 10th, 2017, 01:39 PM
Lol aww ttc! Yea at one he may not notice, so maybe it'll be good!


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Lolabelle
July 10th, 2017, 02:31 PM
Ttc-boys definitely want their mommys too! Mine would sleep in our room every night if we let them! We had a really good bedtime routine going, now this! I'm sure we'll get back on track before too long. Thanks for the encouragement! Anyway, It's completely natural to think ahead how you would deal with life changes! I think about how I'll have to get a new car! I'm sure if you have a little guy (Fx!!!!!!), he won't even notice that he's not a part of their slumber party! My cousin has 2 boys (high school age) and 2 girls (4th & 5th). The girls always wanted to share a room for years...I think they just recently got separate rooms! The boys shared a room when they were little.

NACIREMADREAM
July 10th, 2017, 02:49 PM
My youngest still sleeps in the bed with us, but he nurses throughout the night. I honestly don't know how I will hold up nursing and being pregnant:sigh: The touchy feely is whats getting to me most. He wants to feel on my other nipple (sorry tmi) while nursing:worry: I normally grab my bra strap tight and sometimes he will fight me, and other times he leaves me alone. I guess it all depends on his mood. My oldest two have there own rooms only because of their age gap. 6 yrs between them. My oldest will be 11 and I think he wants his own privacy and space. My 5 yr old started sleeping in his own room the day we brought Luca home from the hospital, and he did it on his own( He just turned 3 at the time). We assumed it would be a fight but it wasn't. My 5 yr old knows his room is his and my youngest even though he never sleeps in there. I have twin beds in there it's all decorated with their favorite things. Luca my youngest pretends to want to sleep in with the 5 yr old, but he never does. My older brothers shared a room even after high school by choice. You couldn't keep them apart, but they are identical twins so maybe there is a closeness there.

AshFind
July 10th, 2017, 04:27 PM
NACIRE I nursed my theirs while pregnant with my fourth but since I have preterm labor they wanted me to quit once I got to 20 weeks but if you don't have any issues it's totally doable I wanted to tandem nurse so bad but it didn't work out. Maybe if you give him a little lovey blankey or something it could replace the nipple lol


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TtcBlue18
July 10th, 2017, 04:34 PM
Yeah I'm thinking whether the girls want to or not they will always share a room. We have 2 spares but one will be the nursery (hopefully) and I like to keep a guest room open incase family or friends come to visit and need a place to stay. We're always the go to people :) I didn't mean that I hope my baby boy wants his own space from me (I want a cuddle bug!), I just meant I hope he doesn't want to be included with the girls because I can see how that might hurt a little ones feelings if his older siblings get to share a room and a bed and he's left alone every night. But if I have a failed sway, I'm seriously debating putting all 3 girls in the same room because I want them all to be closely bonded, not just 2 of them. That's the only thing I really really worry about is the bedroom situations with 3 kids, especially with 3 girls.

NACIREMADREAM
July 10th, 2017, 04:35 PM
Ash - that is an awesome idea! I never ever thought of anything like that before :) I know I don't want to force him into weaning, and he isn't showing signs that he's ready yet. Thanks Ash!!

Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 04:39 PM
Yay for 2nd attempt ttcblue!!!

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NACIREMADREAM
July 10th, 2017, 04:40 PM
TtcBlue18 - I swear and I'll never forget feeling left out, and so alone because my older brothers (identical twins) shared a room. I would hear them talking, laughing, playing in their room. I always wished I had a twin or at least a sister. I never really had a close bond with my brothers, because they always had each other.. I'm pretty sure this probably isn't true for everyone but it was for me.

ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 06:10 PM
Ahhhhh help!! It's month #1 TTC and I think I may be messing things up already :)

I don't really understand OPKs - we didn't use them with our first two!! I have been testing the past 2 days, twice a day. Yesterday I had very faint lines in the test area which according to the instructions clearly say means "negative" b/c the line has to be as dark as the control line. Today I did one at 2 pm and it was *almost* as dark as the control line (maybe slightly lighter? But still a pretty good line). Is that a positive!?! Should I just wait to see what tonight's test shows before deciding what to do? I feel like I don't know how to interrupt these things!! If you get a line that is almost as dark as the control line does that mean the next one is likely to be darker/ definitely positive?

And so if it is positive, the other issue is that hubs and I have "DTD" w/ a condom the past two nights. In the past when I've temped, it has looked like I ovulated around day 13/14 (based on the temp shift), so I was thinking we had another couple of days maybe before I got a positive OPK. We're doing the 1 attempt at positive OPK approach. So we had planned, after last night, to not DTD again until I got a positive OPK and then do our one attempt... Well OOPS that might be today!! So my fear is we may have "depleted" his sperm supply too much if we have to attempt tonight! I know lower sperm count favors girl but I'm worried if we do it tonight we may have TOO low of a count to get pregnant. If I get a clearly positive test tonight, should we go ahead and attempt tonight (after 10 pm which would be a full 24 hours after his last release), or maybe wait until the morning? Not having used these dang things in the past I have no idea how long it would be between my first positive OPK and actual ovulation.

Ahhh I'm already confused!!

EDIT: I didn't mention I'm on CD 10 today :)

EDIT 2: Couple other notes... I used Rephresh on Saturday night after DTD so am not due to use that again until tomorrow. Also I went swimming today - not sure if that will have any effect but just an FYI.

IWant4Kids
July 10th, 2017, 06:39 PM
Pbn3 - from looking at my chart and changing O day to cd14, did we have 2 attempts or 3 in your opinion please?


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LMSM
July 10th, 2017, 06:48 PM
Morning lovelies!

How are you?

TTC – woohoo for that 2nd attempt!

Nacire – I had that issue at night with DD2 “fondling” which I couldn’t deal with amymore – I was “touched out” – which I why I went with the gentle weaning – I wasn’t enjoying it anymore at night (I was ok during the day and she was more easily distracted) – and as much as I would have liked to continue, 17 months was not a bad effort...At the end of the day, if you want to continue nursing, it’s going to be a matter of finding strategies to make it an enjoyable experience for both of you – maybe try finding a little lovey blanket and whenever he tries to touch when nursing, offer it to him by placing it gently in his hand – he may not accept it at first, but soon he will likely associate it with nursing and the comfort that it all brings… Gradually offer it at every nurse, and maybe start offering it to him outside of nursing too, as a comfort if he is upset or tired ;)
I can’t nurse when pregnant due to a very irritable uterus, but doesn’t sound like that is an issue for you, so unless advised otherwise by a doc, how cool is it to keep that bond going for as long as you both want to ? ;)

ABC – yay for TTC getting serious :D
Worry not, we all get confused and panicky at times, so it’s good to do a sanity check with the ladies on here ;)
You’re swaying pink I think, correct?
Have you got pics of the tests for us to see?
You did get a fair bit of (granted, protected) BD so number would be bound to be lower yes – I will let the pink sway experts advise – but I reckon if you could post pics of the opks that would be super helpful to let us guide you! ;)

Iwant4 – how are you feeling? No more spotting/cramps? Repeat BW today was it?

Ok better run will be back later – have a series of meetings now ;)
x

LMSM
July 10th, 2017, 06:52 PM
I want 4 – I’m no expert but of O is CD14 I’d say 2 attempts? That 3rd one prior is likely too early to be a potential real attempt?!

ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 07:04 PM
LMSM - Trying to attach photo of my OPK from this afternoon. Yup - swaying pink!

It's a little hard to tell in pic but test line is a little lighter than control.

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LMSM
July 10th, 2017, 07:30 PM
Def very close to positive ABC!
Tonight’s opk will likely be clearly positive – and if you are going for 1 attempt only I * think* giving the swimmers a few more hours to freshen up since you had a fair bit of BD recently, might not a bad idea so if you can wait until AM and get your attempt in then, might be better?
Pink swaying experts, thoughts?

netti02
July 10th, 2017, 07:43 PM
Hi All

Im tentatively jumping in. DH did give the green light for this month but with him im taking it day by day 😣 we have 5 boys trying one last time for a DD.

We are going with frequent release to potentially lower his sperm count or abstain just need to clarify with him today.

This mornings opk looks like im gearing up earlier than expected but we will see. Sometimes it fizzles out and starts back up again.

Ill try and keep up with the thread but it moves so fast.

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ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 07:48 PM
Ok I'm going to re-test again soon so I'll update but that's what I was sort of thinking - wait until morning to give him some extra time to "repopulate" - ha!!

When we conceived my 2nd, we had like 5 or 6 daily attempts leading up to the day of ovulation (or day before - can't remember), so from that it seemed we can def get pregnant w/ daily attempts (meaning low sperm count wasn't an issue). I know obviously in that case those 5 or 6 attempts were all W/O condom so LOTS of sperm got in there but he must not have run too low before I hit my fertile days. We got pregnant on the first shot w/both boys so we were def super fertile then... Maybe if we wait till morning he'll have recovered enough to still give us a shot this cycle! :)

Pbn3
July 10th, 2017, 08:08 PM
Nacire your description of growing up hearing your brothers talking and laughing, seeng their bond pretty much sums up why I'm hoping more and more for boy #3 🙁

ABC agree with LMSM that if tonight's opk is a clear positive then bd tomorrow sometime. Thing is most people would just test once a day so really if you were doing that then tomorrow would be your first positive anyway :) You should still o the day after tomorrow (if you fall within the average) Good luck!!!! And definately post a pic of your opks so we can take a look 😀

Iwant4kids can you post your chart link again? I removed it when you stopped temping 😀

LMSM cannot wait for the next few days temp!

Netti woohoo so good to see you here!!! Have you asked Atomic what she thinks would be best in your situation for FR or abstain? I think it would be worthwhile getting her opinion while you have time. Detail your ages, your usual bd frequency, what frequency and attempts you used for your 5 boys (the ones you remember anyway) She may recommend something different than the norm for you given your strong natural inclination towards blue.... also there's a lady on here called fiveboys? I think her username is that is pregnant with a dd after 5 boys and she posted a sway. Might be worth checking it out if you haven't already. Also are you doing LE diet even lightly? From memory you were pretty loose with the diet and I know you had more than one attempt when you conceived ds5.



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netti02
July 10th, 2017, 08:19 PM
Thanks pbn. Pattern with all boys was bd every other day so 3/4 frequency. Ive always fallen pretty quickly so im wanting to try something different. I have been skipping breakfast but thats about it. With shift work its pretty hard plus winter is not my friend but ive been trying. Havent been exercising either hence why im trying a completely different approach with the frequency thing.

Ill pop up a post. DH just turned 35 so no worried about that.

I do worry about his ability for everyday though 😂

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maximbella
July 10th, 2017, 08:46 PM
ABC, for what it's worth I never get a line darker than the control line and I seem to be using the same opk's as you. Have you double checked with a digi? Mine looked the same as yours on the cheapie but the digi gave me a positive. I ovulated right after, but would have missed it had I not double checked with digi since I would have considered the cheapie a negative.

Got crosshairs today!! I'm 1-3dpo depending on when I actually O'd. Going in for u/s tomorrow to check my lining. [emoji322]


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ABC.2606
July 10th, 2017, 08:58 PM
Ok I don't think I'm going to like OPKs!

So I just tested again and I picked up another brand at the store today too (not digital maximbella... I guess if I can't figure these Easy Home ones out I'll have to splurge for the digitals!!!). But the test line on the other brand was DEF way lighter than control line. The Easy Home they were almost the same color - test line maybe slighter lighter still. Pics of both below.

Eeek! So maybe I should still just wait until tomorrow, test early afternoon, and plan on probably BD-ing tomorrow?

Thanks!!!!

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cosmosis
July 10th, 2017, 08:59 PM
ABC, for what it's worth I never get a line darker than the control line and I seem to be using the same opk's as you. Have you double checked with a digi? Mine looked the same as yours on the cheapie but the digi gave me a positive. I ovulated right after, but would have missed it had I not double checked with digi since I would have considered the cheapie a negative.

Got crosshairs today!! I'm 1-3dpo depending on when I actually O'd. Going in for u/s tomorrow to check my lining. [emoji322]


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yey for crosshairs!!

maximbella
July 10th, 2017, 09:08 PM
ABC, that's weird that was taken with the same sample? The easy home looks positive to me?! Don't let me discourage you, I do think I'm an outlier with opk's. most of my girlfriends used them with no problems or uncertainly whatsoever. I think I'm in the minority that they might cause undue stress honestly.

Thanks Cosmo! Really hoping this is it for me....


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XXforhubby
July 10th, 2017, 09:14 PM
OMG! This thread is enormous! I'm starting a new one and will link to it in a bit...

Jubilant July 2WW Thread (2)

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LMSM
July 10th, 2017, 09:18 PM
Maaaax – so happy to see you here – I did stalk your chart, looking good young lady! Woohoo :cheer:

ABC – sounds like a good plan – like PBN says you probs won’t O straight away anyhow so should be a good one attempt ;)
Looks like you are one heck of a fertile couple – so his swimmers are super effective haha so it’s hence less likely that the previous BD would have had too much on an impact (as in – lowered the count TOO much – should be just right ^^).
Keep us posted!
Edit: you psoted as I typed – did you have the same amount of liquid before peeing, did you hold just as long? That may make a difference!

Netti so glad to see that DH is willing to let you try this month!!! Woohoo!
FX so hard you get pregnant this month and even better, with your much longed for girl <3

PBN - you and me both! it’s crazy, I feel so schizophrenic at the moment, one second going “omg am so preggers” to the next “ am so having AF soon”…. :rofl:
I did receive a very special present yesterday – a beautiful pink quartz bracelet along with some other things including kind words – and it’s lifted my spirit so much, so will keep being positive! :)

I’ve now had a chance to read you in more detail – and agree the description of your kids (or your siblings) sleeping in the same room sounds dreamy!
We have 4 bedrooms (ours, DD1’s which is medium sized, DD2’s which is effectively the smallest and the nursery, and a large roiom which currently serves as a playroom) – I had mentioned to Dh that when #3 tags along, after we keep bub with us for that while at first, we should move bub to the nursery and have our two girls together…and keep the playroom as their common room (or even swap, and have the girls have the large room and make DD1’s current room the playroom)..he doesn’t want to, saying we have enough rooms for each to have their own.
He has a sister, and grew up sharing the bedroom for lack for space – and I think he is very attached to each kid having their space (I would only have them be in the same room if they wanted to, of course – since we have the space/choice). Sigh :(
Oh and the guy that came in to see me this morning was a guy from Boston, which made me think of all you lovely US ladies (yes, you are on my mind even at work!) :D

XXforhubby
July 10th, 2017, 09:18 PM
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