TTC Girl - February 2012

[KraizyDaizy]

sis40, I am praying for you. Maybe this is just implantation spotting that is coming through?

[HopeandDreamG]

Thinking and praying for you Sis4O.... relax as much as possible :HH:

[suregena]

I thought long and hard today... last night I was ready to just try this month whenever AF shows up, but tonight I think I have made the hard decision that it would be better to wait until April/May. Something feels less 'pressured' about that period, less stressful. An October baby would have been IDEAL... but it doesn't appear to have happened. At this rate it would be late November if on time or early December, and I think that would just be too stressful. I wanted to try to avoid December-January months... not because I don't want to get pregnant so, so, SO SO SO SO SOOOOO BAAAAD... but my son's birthday is in January, my husband's, there's Christmas, if there was another baby birthday in there, it'd be too intense!

Now I just have to figure out what is going on with my cycle. The word "ectopic" is now in my head so I'm giving myself until Monday for AF to show up, and if not I'll call the doctor. I've given myself next week... if AF shows up next week at ALL, even after calling the doctor, I'll go ahead and try this month, if not, then I won't. I am STILL having cramping, twinging, etcetera. Something is weird for sure. :(


*hugs* Sis40, hang in there!

[Mochagirl]

I'm sorry, suregena - that's a tough decision, but you definitely have to go with your gut. Hopefully af will arrive very soon and you won't need to worry about any of that....

[littlemissnaughty7]

sis40 i know you prob dont feel like it but try and eat a bit more you need some more weight on you to look after you and your baby hun , it will make you feel better too and not so weird,

[sweetsister]

Hey, sweetsister! How much and what days did you take? I didn't have any symptoms on it except the first month very strong o pains. Second month was way too confusing for me too comment! Not even sure when I o'd. The first month I o'd on cd 21. Do you have kids? I'm not a big cm person to begin with, so can't say I noticed any difference...GL!!!

I took 50 2x a day one morn and one night so 100 starting cd3-7 ive had quite a few differences bad headaches moody i feel its definately taking affect ,i have 2 beautiful boys already:) So now im on cd9 and we did our first try today ,im determined to make it happen this round :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

Hey sweetsister there are so many of us on clomid this month lol, is this your first month ttc on clomid ?

[sweetsister]

I am on Clomid this month, and I had more CM than normal. Way more slippery. I even used Benedryl just in case this month. My emotions were terrible though. I hope you don't have many side effects on Clomid. I am so praying this is the one and only cycle of it for me.

Hi Kdaizy I also had way more cm i had ewcm while on clomid a few days ago??and normally since on the diet ive had almost none ,which is why i havent conceived yet for sure,ive also had terrible moods and headaches,and now slippery im also hoping this is my one and only month on clomid , i think im going to try every day,did you ovulate on schedule with clomid,i see you are 1 dpo on your ticker?I definately feel its doing something the clomid,like gearing up to ovulate:)

[sweetsister]

Hey sweetsister there are so many of us on clomid this month lol, is this your first month ttc on clomid ?

Hiya,yes my first month ive just finished 2 days now and did our first attempt,just incase:) What about you?

[KraizyDaizy]

Hi Kdaizy I also had way more cm i had ewcm while on clomid a few days ago??and normally since on the diet ive had almost none ,which is why i havent conceived yet for sure,ive also had terrible moods and headaches,and now slippery im also hoping this is my one and only month on clomid , i think im going to try every day,did you ovulate on schedule with clomid,i see you are 1 dpo on your ticker?I definately feel its doing something the clomid,like gearing up to ovulate:)

Prior to Clomid I Oed later in my cycle, but not sure exactly when I Oed this month. My ticker is not completely correct. I will update it once FF gives me cross-hairs. My temp actually went down today, so I am not sure when I Oed or if maybe I am Oing now LOL!!! Either way we are DTD straight through cause I am fed up with swaying and do not want to take Clomid many more cycles. I normally have little to no CM at all, so this slippery stuff has me completely terrified! I had major EWCM with all my boys, so more than likely this will be another handsome boy!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

ive taken my first pill today so fingers crossed, im a littlke freaked out by the more slippery cm people are finding themselves with ? if i have to take citirizine to dry up my cm when do i take it ?

[sweetsister]

Prior to Clomid I Oed later in my cycle, but not sure exactly when I Oed this month. My ticker is not completely correct. I will update it once FF gives me cross-hairs. My temp actually went down today, so I am not sure when I Oed or if maybe I am Oing now LOL!!! Either way we are DTD straight through cause I am fed up with swaying and do not want to take Clomid many more cycles. I normally have little to no CM at all, so this slippery stuff has me completely terrified! I had major EWCM with all my boys, so more than likely this will be another handsome boy!!!
I also had major ewcm with my boys,this is just slippery though so i figure without it you cant get pregnant at all,so its a good thing:) my temp dropped this morning too but i doubt its my o so soon,you should do multiple attempts then if you are so determined ,i am for sure doing 2x a day when my o test is positive :) i am so very entirely over swaying!!!
Good luck and you have such a good chance of a girl even with ewcm dont worry:luck:

[KraizyDaizy]

I also had major ewcm with my boys,this is just slippery though so i figure without it you cant get pregnant at all,so its a good thing:) my temp dropped this morning too but i doubt its my o so soon,you should do multiple attempts then if you are so determined ,i am for sure doing 2x a day when my o test is positive :) i am so very entirely over swaying!!!
Good luck and you have such a good chance of a girl even with ewcm dont worry:luck:

Yeah, I believe you are right. This is just slippery, not even enough to be stretchy, so I can't really call it EWCM is more SWCM LOL! My DH could not hand twice a day. He about gave up on me with the 6 days in a row so far and I am going to try and get one last DTD today for a full week of it, and then we can relax. My temp shot up today so I think I have Oed for sure, just got to wait for FF to show it. I wish you many blessings that you get a BFP was well. Not sure I believe in luck LOL!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ glad to hear you made a decision you are comfortable with. I don't think you need to worry about ectopic. I'm pretty sure you'd have a fever and some other symptoms. But I would go to doc if AF doesn't show soon.

Kraisy~ COngrats on the attempt! Hoping a BFP is coming your way. What was your dosage of clomid?

LMN & Sweetsister~ Hoping AF is here within a day or 2 so I can start my clomid too!! Interesting to hear about the slippery CM usually they say its the opposite. I'll let you know if that happens to me. After how many days on it did you notice it? What dosage are you taking LMN? Sweetsister your is 100 right. Mines 50 then I'm getting an injection to def trigger O.

Sis4O~ How are you feeling? thinking of you :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

Suregena~ glad to hear you made a decision you are comfortable with. I don't think you need to worry about ectopic. I'm pretty sure you'd have a fever and some other symptoms. But I would go to doc if AF doesn't show soon.

Kraisy~ COngrats on the attempt! Hoping a BFP is coming your way. What was your dosage of clomid?

LMN & Sweetsister~ Hoping AF is here within a day or 2 so I can start my clomid too!! Interesting to hear about the slippery CM usually they say its the opposite. I'll let you know if that happens to me. After how many days on it did you notice it? What dosage are you taking LMN? Sweetsister your is 100 right. Mines 50 then I'm getting an injection to def trigger O.

Sis4O~ How are you feeling? thinking of you :)

hi H&D im on CD 3 today 2nd day of tablets and there 50mg just like you, i hope i dont get loads of ewcm as it will prob freak me out lol, il have my citirizine on hand just incase !

[Boompink]

Hi girls,
Ok if I join you? I'm also on my first round of clomid. I took 100 days 2-6 and got pos opk yesterday (day 14), pretty sure I'm ovulating today as have crazy pains in my lower left abdomen. I too have had more cm than previous months on the girl diet, it is definately more watery but a little stretchy too, it does make me nervous but I soooo want to be pregnant now. We also did very boy timing, every other day until yesterday and now we'll do it every day, probably a boy but there is a little hope!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi boompink :wave: this is technically my 4th round on clomid ive taken it 3 times before with my two sons (was on bad boy diet/ boy timing with both/ and took loads of vits and minerals and tablets to make my cm extra stretchy) but this month il be doing none of that.....

im taking folic acid 1200mg, baby aspirin 3 x a week, acidophilus 2 x a day, clomis days 2-6,

my DH is taking cranberry 10,000, liq root 450mg x 3 a day,

were both drinking diet coke/caffiene free coke, crystal light with sweetners,

im on the LE diet, DH has cut out meat/fish/eggs

we will DTD once at a 0+12 with shallow penetration, we have done a 2 1/2 week abstinence, DH will take a sudafed 1 hour before attempt, il use rephresh the night before our attempt and maybe a little after if my ph is higher then 5, and citirizine before our attempt if i have loads of EWCM,

i have 2 boys and desperatley want my baby girl now ............

[littlemissnaughty7]

does anyone know when to take antihistamines if you have a ton of EWCM appear ?

[sis4O]

Suregena~ glad to hear you made a decision you are comfortable with. I don't think you need to worry about ectopic. I'm pretty sure you'd have a fever and some other symptoms. But I would go to doc if AF doesn't show soon.

Kraisy~ COngrats on the attempt! Hoping a BFP is coming your way. What was your dosage of clomid?

LMN & Sweetsister~ Hoping AF is here within a day or 2 so I can start my clomid too!! Interesting to hear about the
slippery CM usually they say its the opposite. I'll let you know if that happens to me. After how many days on it did you notice it? What dosage are you taking LMN? Sweetsister your is 100 right. Mines 50 then I'm getting an injection to def trigger O.

Sis4O~ How are you feeling? thinking of you :)



Hi. The HPT's are getting lighter each time I take one. I am still spotting a little and I don't feel well. I think I have a combo of having another chemical (crampy, yuck feeling) and a little of what the kids have had. I can't believe i'm having 2 chemicals in a row. I will talk to my midwife on Monday and see what she thinks I should do next.
Thanks for thinking of me.

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh sis40 i soooooooooooo hope this isnt the case and its just a bug or something, i hope your midwife will be able to tell you whats going on, i wish you all the luck in the world hun, were always here if you need us :hug2:

[rainbowflower]

Hi. The HPT's are getting lighter each time I take one. I am still spotting a little and I don't feel well. I think I have a combo of having another chemical (crampy, yuck feeling) and a little of what the kids have had. I can't believe i'm having 2 chemicals in a row. I will talk to my midwife on Monday and see what she thinks I should do next.
Thanks for thinking of me.

are you using FMU each time?

[sis4O]

[QUOTE=rainbowflower;143729]are you using FMU each time?[/QUOTE

Yes, I have been the last two days. Yesterday was darker than today's. They were both fainter than when I got the original BFP.

[rainbowflower]

crossing everything it's just dodgy tests!

[HopeandDreamG]

hi H&D im on CD 3 today 2nd day of tablets and there 50mg just like you, i hope i dont get loads of ewcm as it will prob freak me out lol, il have my citirizine on hand just incase !

Is that the active ingredient in zyrtec? I'll go upstairs soon and look, I have some on hand too.

AF is about to start!!!!! I just started spotting, I have NEVER been more excited for AF EVER!!!!!:cheer: Come on clomid! Bring me those :pinksperm:

[Mochagirl]

Yay for af, Hope!! :luck:

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi Boompink..welcome :)

Sis4O~ I really hope thats not whats happening. Keep us posted. I will pray for you...:HH:

Rainbowflower~ how are you feeling? Enjoying food I hope. I'm jealous!!

[dannikins]

Suregena~ glad to hear you made a decision you are comfortable with. I don't think you need to worry about ectopic. I'm pretty sure you'd have a fever and some other symptoms. But I would go to doc if AF doesn't show soon.



not always true.
i never had any symptoms other than spotting which started at 6 weeks, 2 weeks of bloods, scans etc, and still couldnt figure out what was going on, in the end they had to do a laparoscopy, thats the only reason they found it.
i lost my right tube, if it was found earlier , they may have been able to save it.

sorry im really not trying to cause worry or stress or anything, but i have been there, and i know how serious it can be, and i really think its something that should be rulled out sooner rather than later.

[dannikins]

Sis i really hope its just some dodgey tests or something, sending lots of sticky dust your way...:hug2:

[dannikins]

Kraizy, good luck, fingers crossed you caught that eggie!!!:cheerteam:

[lemon2012]

Hi girls,
Ok if I join you? I'm also on my first round of clomid. I took 100 days 2-6 and got pos opk yesterday (day 14), pretty sure I'm ovulating today as have crazy pains in my lower left abdomen. I too have had more cm than previous months on the girl diet, it is definately more watery but a little stretchy too, it does make me nervous but I soooo want to be pregnant now. We also did very boy timing, every other day until yesterday and now we'll do it every day, probably a boy but there is a little hope!!!
I still can't wrap head around timing...or it timing..lol!
Why will you keep going?
Just wondering, we are on the exact same day if you know what I mean:)
Welcome by the way!

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi lemon! did you attempt this last cycle. Mine attempt is coming up cannot wait!

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena~ glad to hear you made a decision you are comfortable with. I don't think you need to worry about ectopic. I'm pretty sure you'd have a fever and some other symptoms. But I would go to doc if AF doesn't show soon.

Kraisy~ COngrats on the attempt! Hoping a BFP is coming your way. What was your dosage of clomid?

LMN & Sweetsister~ Hoping AF is here within a day or 2 so I can start my clomid too!! Interesting to hear about the slippery CM usually they say its the opposite. I'll let you know if that happens to me. After how many days on it did you notice it? What dosage are you taking LMN? Sweetsister your is 100 right. Mines 50 then I'm getting an injection to def trigger O.

Sis4O~ How are you feeling? thinking of you :)

I was on 50mg 1 X Day from CD5-10.

[suregena]

CD38. :(

I WILL call the doctor on Monday...

[littlemissnaughty7]

H&D citirizine is a different form of antihistamine than zyrtec hun,

[Boompink]

I still can't wrap head around timing...or it timing..lol!
Why will you keep going?
Just wondering, we are on the exact same day if you know what I mean:)
Welcome by the way!
I'm going to keep going just to make sure I have the best chance of catching that egg!! Plus, I know the follicle on the left ovary was behind the right so maybe that will go too and give me two chances, don't know if that's how it works though!! I'm not happy with my timing but I do want to get pregnant now, it's been a long time and I've had enough, I'm just going to keep my fx for the bonus of a girl at this point!!!
Why are you ladies taking clomid?

[littlemissnaughty7]

suregena ive always used cheapie net tests and ive never have one fail to show my surge hun, maybe you just didnt ovulate because of all the weight you have lost ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

im taking clomid because i dont normally ovulate on my own,

[suregena]

suregena ive always used cheapie net tests and ive never have one fail to show my surge hun, maybe you just didnt ovulate because of all the weight you have lost ?

It's possible, no doubt about it.

[littlemissnaughty7]

how much weight have you lost hun since being on the diet ?

[suregena]

Since now I am aiming for May/June, I have to come up with the best way to approach those months to prep my body to make sure my cycle is regular and not freaked out. One thing I was considering is taking the vitex (once my period returns...) in the two weeks on, two weeks off period so it has time to sort of not freak my body out, if that makes sense? To have the benefit of it around TTC without my body being thrown off too much. Any input into that, ladies?

I am also going to start drinking RRL tea soon daily, maybe, and also keep taking my folic acid. I'll not have my husband take the licorice root until it's the month of TTC (he took it 6 weeks solid the last time!) but we'll still do FR and multiple attempts, because I just gotta get pregnant this year! Ideally those months (pleasepleaseplease!)

I now have a BBT, etcetera, so maybe I should start charting my temps when AF returns, i.e. after it finishes, to create a "view" of how my cycle works? Is that a good idea?

Anyway, just rambling...

[suregena]

how much weight have you lost hun since being on the diet ?

I started at 115 or thereabouts and around the time of "supposed" ovulation (since I don't really know now) I was 103...


So, maybe too much, too fast.
I didn't NEED to lose weight, considering I'm already lower than the weight I was with conceiving my son, and I am the sort of ideal BMI, but, you know!

I started the diet, with a lot of cheating at the start because of the season, around the first/second week of December.

I'm now eating half and half, though. Been eating my diet lunches as normal at work but dinners have been mostly whatever my husband and son are eating. I'm still hovering around 107, though.

[littlemissnaughty7]

i think you may find thats the answer hun JMO, the vitex did great for me it made me O both times the first time 15 days after last pill and the 2nd 13 days after last pill, if i dont get pregnant with the 3 months i have on clomid il def use it again !

[HopeandDreamG]

H&D citirizine is a different form of antihistamine than zyrtec hun,
Funny I looked at my box of generic zyrtec and citirizine IS the main ingredient!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~I think temping in your months off is a great idea. I watches my cycle for months before attempting and knew my cycles pretty well. It does always seem that it's different when you attempt, but I think it's a great idea nonetheless

[littlemissnaughty7]

Funny I looked at my box of generic zyrtec and citirizine IS the main ingredient!

maybe its the same then just diff names in different places ?

[dannikins]

Suregena, temping sounds great to me!
i was temping every month as soon as my son was born.
i was using it as a method of contraception, since im not allowed to use any hormone based ones, so by charting i could avoid my fertile times every month.

also figured it would be a good idea to know exactly what my body was doing, so that when we tried again we would have a better shot at pink.

[auroara78]

I used to work in a drugstore and citrizine is the same thing as the active ingredient in Zyrtec and generic Zyrtec.

[HopeandDreamG]

maybe its the same then just diff names in different places ?

Maybe its that Zyrtec is just a "name brand" and the active ingredient in several name brands of antihistimaines is citirizine, iykwim!

[laughinglynxie]

I now have a BBT, etcetera, so maybe I should start charting my temps when AF returns, i.e. after it finishes, to create a "view" of how my cycle works? Is that a good idea?


Yes! I ALWAYS temp without fail, even if I am sick or maybe didn't get enough sleep. I feel much more secure in what my body is doing and it's really kind of interesting to see sometimes how stress can affect ovulating (temp gears up for O and then drops back down if your body isn't ready).

[suregena]

If anyone can offer me some "temping schooling" (heeh) I'll start temping as soon as it's time and have a look at what my cycles are doing. I AM STILL WAITING FOR AF. Just the most bizarre thing. But, anyway, once it starts and ends, I'll start temping!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ I temp in the mouth same place everytime. Under my tongue on the left side. MY bbt is on my nightstand- the second I wake up (typically same time each day, and if time is off by a little here and there I don't worry about it) I just hit the button, place under my tongue and wait the 3 minutes for it to beep that its done. My kids know I am not miving till its done! Then I put reading in my iphone FF app (i never even look at FF on line!). Thats it. I like having a reason to lay there for a few more mins snug in my bed! I usually sleep great so thats not a problem for me, and if I've gotten up to go to the bathroom or something like 4am or something and I get up at 7am it never has effected the reading. I take the temp usually around 7am or thereabout. Hope that helps!

[littlemissnaughty7]

cd 5 for me today 4th clomid tab too, and boy did me and my DH have a row or what !! over something silly but it was def a bad one, so im sure my T levels went through the roof !!! hope it doesnt inpact my sway at all ? i think the clomid is making me more frustrated and tense this time around !

[laughinglynxie]

If anyone can offer me some "temping schooling" (heeh) I'll start temping as soon as it's time and have a look at what my cycles are doing. I AM STILL WAITING FOR AF. Just the most bizarre thing. But, anyway, once it starts and ends, I'll start temping!

This looks like a pretty decent article: The ABCs of Basal Body Temperature Charting at the Preconception (Trying to Conceive, TTC, Fertility, Pregnancy Planner) Cubby at StorkNet (http://www.storknet.com/cubbies/preconception/bbt.htm)

I really loved the Taking Charge of Your Fertility book...and I've had to re-buy it twice because I can't seem to get people to give it back to me!

[littlemissnaughty7]

i always temp if im up at 7.30am or 8.30am as it alternates through the week and i always get a clear chart of when i ovulate so i def recommend doing it !

[prayforprincess]

Suregena - Ya definitely temp. It just confirms ovulation occured. I always temp every morning around 6-7 am. Usually the day after or two days after I think I o'ed I get a temp spike and I know I am in the clear and o is over. It just makes you feel better knowing that the +opk was right and you did o.
I was thinking to even bd til my confirmed temp spike this month just to make sure. Don't wanna chance missing it.

On cd7 -- 10 more days til o and 1 more week til we start our attempts. Wahoo! I kinda can't wait to be in my 2ww. We are gonna dtd 10-11 times in 3 days. Sperm count so low, using rephresh, little bit sylk and replens here and there to make sure ph stays low. No j&d ever-- I need to get pg this month! Meat is calling my name...I wanna eat again!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just to throw my 2 cents in here - my thinking is that if someone ALREADY temps, that's great. But for people who don't temp and for whom it is a new "project" to take on, it has the potential to raise testosterone and feed swaying obsession to have those little numbers there to obsess over. So for those who don't temp, now is not the time to start!!

[suregena]

Just to throw my 2 cents in here - my thinking is that if someone ALREADY temps, that's great. But for people who don't temp and for whom it is a new "project" to take on, it has the potential to raise testosterone and feed swaying obsession to have those little numbers there to obsess over. So for those who don't temp, now is not the time to start!!

As my cycle was sooo messed up and I'm still waiting for my AF with BFN's galore... I'm not able to TTC now again until May/June so I should have time to get myself used to it. :D

[dannikins]

i think you will be fine suregena, you have a couple months to obsess over the details before go time...:)

i use FF, they are great, they do all the hard work for you.
all you have to do is record the stuff, they work everything else out.

i have my thermometer next to my bed, so i dont even have to move to reach it.
and i take my temp as soon as i wake up, sometimes the time could vary especially when i was breastfeeding, some nights, when he was first born, i would probably only get about 4-5 hours sleep a night, and even though temps may have been out a a bit, they were still accurate enough to see a solid pattern.

if you like you can view my charts here,
2b870d Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b870d/)

might give you an idea on what it covers etc.

[HopeandDreamG]

I'm suppossed to take clomid for first time tomorrow. 50mg doc never said morning or night? Thoughts what has everyone done? Does it matter? Could call doc in am just wondering...

[KraizyDaizy]

I'm suppossed to take clomid for first time tomorrow. 50mg doc never said morning or night? Thoughts what has everyone done? Does it matter? Could call doc in am just wondering...

My doc did not tell me am or pm, but I took am at the same time each day so that I would have an even amount in my system from CD5-10 on 50mg as well.

[lemon2012]

I'm suppossed to take clomid for first time tomorrow. 50mg doc never said morning or night? Thoughts what has everyone done? Does it matter? Could call doc in am just wondering...

Hey hope, same dose as me for ds1.
It was good and definitely did the trick....I ovulated!
I think I took it in the am....but same time makes sense. And you don't forget.
GL:)

[lemon2012]

L
Suregena - Ya definitely temp. It just confirms ovulation occured. I always temp every morning around 6-7 am. Usually the day after or two days after I think I o'ed I get a temp spike and I know I am in the clear and o is over. It just makes you feel better knowing that the +opk was right and you did o.
I was thinking to even bd til my confirmed temp spike this month just to make sure. Don't wanna chance missing it.

On cd7 -- 10 more days til o and 1 more week til we start our attempts. Wahoo! I kinda can't wait to be in my 2ww. We are gonna dtd 10-11 times in 3 days. Sperm count so low, using rephresh, little bit sylk and replens here and there to make sure ph stays low. No j&d ever-- I need to get pg this month! Meat is calling my name...I wanna eat again!!!
Are you really going to do it that many times?
I am dying over 6 times..lol in a week...lol!
That is a lot. Why so much?
Why don't you reduce the number of times and not use replens? Just a thought. You are a vixen:)
Funny, I don't really miss meat but I do miss being more relaxed about food, iykwim.
Ps...good thing to point out, it might take a day or 2 after ov for a temp spike.
GL pray for princess....I am excited to see that pink bp for you:)

[sweetsister]

I'm suppossed to take clomid for first time tomorrow. 50mg doc never said morning or night? Thoughts what has everyone done? Does it matter? Could call doc in am just wondering...

Hi hope,i dont think it matters am or pm when u take it but it can give people side affects ,bad headaches or mood swings ect,which i def had, so some take at night and it sleeps off,i took 2x a day one morn and night but i would have taken pm if i was prescribed once a day.
I would just phone your doctor to be sure though,my doctor is quite strict in how she does things and it is different than what i see others prescribe so,to make you feel better i would call.

[pinkin2011]

Hi Girls, Today is o day for me and I am attempting tonight just one attempt and will be d/h 3rd release for the day... Had a long chat with d/h and we decided would be best not to wait and just go for it! why not!

[PeonyPrincess]

GL Pinkin! FX for you.

[littlemissnaughty7]

GL pinkin hun,

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey all how are we, how are my clomid buddies doing anyone feeling any signs of O yet ?

dannikins hun did you do a 0+12 attempt ?

[rainbowflower]

good luck pinkin!!

[auroara78]

good luck pinkin!

stilll can't believe no AF surgena...I'd still head down to DR ASAP

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes i def agree with auroara on that one suregena hun,

[prayforprincess]

L
Are you really going to do it that many times?
I am dying over 6 times..lol in a week...lol!
That is a lot. Why so much?
Why don't you reduce the number of times and not use replens? Just a thought. You are a vixen:)
Funny, I don't really miss meat but I do miss being more relaxed about food, iykwim.
Ps...good thing to point out, it might take a day or 2 after ov for a temp spike.
GL pray for princess....I am excited to see that pink bp for you:)

I really wanna get pg this month. The diet is killing me. I think I might end up taking out some of the attempts. We will dtd am & pm from cd15 - 17. So 6 times, maybe 7. If I get an unexpected early +opk, then we will dtd 2x that night, the following am and 2x that night. So at least get in 5x.

[dannikins]

dannikins hun did you do a 0+12 attempt ?

no , the Bd marked "AM" was actually a condom day....lol
i thought i was going to ovulate that day, and the "am" is my own sort of code for when we use condoms.

we werent TTC yet, i was planning on starting my sway the following month.


GOOD LUCK PINK!

[lemon2012]

Hey praying for princess....I was beginning to think there was something wrong with me..I could not dtd that much!

Pinkin....:) sounds awesome and perfect!

[pinkin2011]

Hi All , Just woundering Would i have much of a chance of falling preg if we dtd 10 hrs after i think o happened?? I had bad o pain about 10pm and 11pm last night and yest morning i got a smile on my opk we didnt dtd until 6am this morning... do I have much of a chance?? Or should i just think the worst now?

[pinkin2011]

I know 10pm and 11pm until 6am is not 10 hrs but I am just adding on a couple of hrs incase

[prayforprincess]

Pinkin -- i think you still have a chance. Dtd once after o is always a more slim chance than dtd before o, or dtd multiple times; but you definitely still have some chance.

Lemon - there is nothing wrong with you....its not like I am enjoying dtd that much. I am not o-ing, missionary on the bottom -- its wham bam gimme your sperm sex. We will dtd 6-7 times from o- til o. 2x on cd15, 2x cd16 & 2x cd17. I am using rephresh every 3 days and only a tiny bit of sylk at each attempt. Tiny tiny bit of replens 1 hour after my pm attempts (8 hours before my am attempt). Do you think its too much? I am not doing jump and dump. I figure with 6 attempts and no j&d....we might squeeze in another attempt at like 1am (between my pm and am attempt) the night of my +opk.

[lemon2012]

Hi prayforprincess..I will apologize now as the iPad changes words....but your plan sounds good if you can do it. It sounds like a lot to someone who has been married 12 years..lol!
Will you stop at pos opk?
Why? With all that being is it because you want it in earlier?

Pink...relax and see what happens:)
You are still close to ovulation and you can't change it now right? Unless I read it wrong and you are still planning. I just think you will have a girl..! Hang in there!

[pinkin2011]

No I have already had my attempt at 6am this morning, I may be closer to O then what i think anyway.. and yeah will see what happens! I didnt use the rephresh like i was i only used a tiny finger tip of it 24 hrs before attempt

[sweetsister]

hey all how are we, how are my clomid buddies doing anyone feeling any signs of O yet ?

dannikins hun did you do a 0+12 attempt ?

Hey Clomid Chicky, im confused on this clomid ive had ewcm 4 days ago cramping now every day for 4 days ,and still my temp hasnt risen and no pos tests im on cd14 and its been 7 days since last pill so i wonder if the cramps were ovulating or just a warning of whats to come?Anyways i will keep on bding it is now as of tonight the 6th day in a row!:whip:
Pinkin ive been looking at FF charts of pregnancies and alot of them show that they have bd day after o so you probably will too :)

[prayforprincess]

Hi prayforprincess..I will apologize now as the iPad changes words....but your plan sounds good if you can do it. It sounds like a lot to someone who has been married 12 years..lol!
Will you stop at pos opk?
Why? With all that being is it because you want it in earlier?



Oh believe me, we've been married for 8 years and by now my hubby is lucky to get it 3-4 times a month so this is a great pleasure for him. Exhausting for me!
No we are not going to stop at +opk. We will dtd thru o. 2x on o-2, 2x on o-1 and 2x on o day.
I really don't believe in timing at all, and I just want to get pregnant. I have been at this for well over a year now with all these failed IVF attempts. I feel with swaying, the diet and glucose is most important and if I don't get a bfp this month I don't know how much longer I can stick to it. Maternal condition is key to swaying, otherwise I think its 50/50. My normal diet makes me sway blue hard without even trying. So while dtd that many times may mean there is a little more sperm in there (tho not a ton with zytec, fr, rephresh, sylk etc), more boys in there also means more girls in there and I think my body will be more inclined to choose the girls given the strictness of the diet I have been on for 9 weeks.
I think if you dtd once there is 50/50 xx & xy up there -- if you dtd 10 times there is still 50/50 xx & xy up there, just more of it. But dtd more just increases your odds of getting pg. I know a great many women who dtd only once or twice and have boys. And I know a great many women who dtd a lot straight thru o and have girls. I think your body will choose what it chooses and it doesn't matter when or how many times.

Look, the women who are ttc boy are trying to dtd only once on o day and a great many of them are getting boys not because of timing or how many times, but because of their diet. And then there are us ladies ttc girls who want to dtd once and most of us are dtd at +opk or o day because we want to get pg and its hard with a cut off. The greater lot of us are getting girls if we've been very strict with the diet. We are all dtd roughly the same time but getting our DG because of maternal condition.

Sorry, rambling. I just don't think its worth torturing myself staying on this diet longer than need be only dtd 1 or 2 times at certain times only to get bfn's until I happen to get lucky, when those are not things that truly sway.

[Mochagirl]

Sorry, rambling. I just don't think its worth torturing myself staying on this diet longer than need be only dtd 1 or 2 times at certain times only to get bfn's until I happen to get lucky, when those are not things that truly sway.

Well said, PFP. While there are some of us - usually the younger ones - who can dtd once and still get pregnant with all this other stuff we are doing as part of the girl sway, I think it gets harder and harder to succeed the older you get. Both of my BFP cycles this year, I got pregnant only after we added extra attempts - I think this most recent time it was 6 times. Like you, I just wanted to get pregnant and I'm 37, so the clock is ticking. The LE diet is hard to maintain over a long period of time, so I think it's best to increase your chances of getting pregnant quickly so you won't be tempted to start cheating on the diet, which is probably the most important part of the sway.

[littlemissnaughty7]

Hey Clomid Chicky, im confused on this clomid ive had ewcm 4 days ago cramping now every day for 4 days ,and still my temp hasnt risen and no pos tests im on cd14 and its been 7 days since last pill so i wonder if the cramps were ovulating or just a warning of whats to come?Anyways i will keep on bding it is now as of tonight the 6th day in a row!:whip:
Pinkin ive been looking at FF charts of pregnancies and alot of them show that they have bd day after o so you probably will too :)


hey huni i remember that with both of my last pregnancies, i would say you gearing up to ovulate hun, im sure you will get a +opk soon, what cd are you on ?

[auroara78]

prayforprincess, I think you got the right idea for sure :agree:

I know a lot of couples who DTD infrequently and got boys and a lot who DTD alot all in a row and got girls, and some vice versa, etc. But I don't believe the old line that you should only DTD ONCE TTC'ing a girl because I know too many antidotal stories where women have DTD a lot and gotten girls, but of course I believe the ultimate factor is their maternal condition.

Can't wait for your attempt, and Peony's, and Hope N Dreams coming up!!

[KraizyDaizy]

7DPO, hurry up TWW!

[prayforprincess]

I am only 29 so hopefully with 6 attempts thru o I will get my bfp this month. I keeping thinking, possibly only 3 more weeks til I can make reservations at the Steak house! I have never had a hard time getting pg in the past (though my IVF cycles failed I think that is sooo different from trying naturally...the way they mess with your eggs, the drugs, taking out cells etc.). I have not tried to get pregnant naturally since I was 25 with my 3rd son....so 4 years later, who know's. Hopefully I still have my spark! I think I'll take out the replens and just use rephresh and sylk.

So, my husband sent me 2 dozen chocolate dipped strawberries for Valentine's from my boys. They are milk, dark and white covered. I know the dark are no good -- too many antioxidants/healthy stuff. I'll let the boys eat those ones. But the milk and white chocolate one's should be fine right? I looked up nutrients and they're 110 calories, 6 grams fat, 1 gram protein and 15 grams sodium. Not bad right? You think its ok if I have 1 every other day or so? I o in 8 days so I don't want to mess anything up with my diet right now.

[littlemissnaughty7]

prayforprincess i think that is fine hun a little treat every other day,

[prayforprincess]

7DPO, hurry up TWW!

I know I will be the exact same way during my 2ww. I was laughing with my girlfriend last night because I feel like once I POAS and get a bfp I will jump up and down "hurray I can eat again I am going out to dinner tonight to celebrate...and oh ya, wahoo for being pregnant too!" I think I will first test 11dpo. When are you testing?

[KraizyDaizy]

I know I will be the exact same way during my 2ww. I was laughing with my girlfriend last night because I feel like once I POAS and get a bfp I will jump up and down "hurray I can eat again I am going out to dinner tonight to celebrate...and oh ya, wahoo for being pregnant too!" I think I will first test 11dpo. When are you testing?

I am a :poas: as I already started testing at 7dpo LOL! I have :fx: that my :noaf: will stay away and I will finally get my :omg: BFP! I mean I think I deserve it after DTD :pinksperm: so many times!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

sis40,

I just wanted to see how things were going for you and your little bean. I pray all is well.

[prayforprincess]

I am a :poas: as I already started testing at 7dpo LOL! I have :fx: that my :noaf: will stay away and I will finally get my :omg: BFP! I mean I think I deserve it after DTD :pinksperm: so many times!!!

how many times did you dtd and when? thru o?

[KraizyDaizy]

how many times did you dtd and when? thru o?

6 days in a row straight through O as you can can see in my chart in my siggy. What about you?

[lemon2012]

Hey everyone,
Just wondering for anyone with advice....dh and I started with some fr on cd 3 and 4, bd 6,7, 9,10,12,13....and no o or suspected o on cd11. I am experiencing mid cycle pain that I have to have checked out by the doctor.
But, I am for sure ovulating now. Problem is, we gave up yesterday....!
So, I have a 1.5 day cut off. We have not used anything to sway but supplements and diet....such as rephresh or Zyrtec.
If the pain subsides enough we might try again.

Problem is, we did not dtd yesterday!
Any advice?
Should I relax or dtd again?

[Mochagirl]

Lemon - if I were you and the pain subsides enough, I'd give it another try just to keep my bases covered. I know how badly you want to get pregnant. If you are hurting to much to do it, though, don't sweat it - you've made a great attempt, even with the cut-off! I got my BFP with an unintentional 1.5 day cut-off! :luck:

[lemon2012]

You did!
I thought you were o-1!

The other problem is Ewcm.lots of it!
Plus, you were fertile when you got pregnant....I am clearly not!

Thanks mocha..I appreciate it in valentines day....how are you?

[prayforprincess]

Lemon -- I agree with Mocha. Try again one more time if you can. If not, then you still made a great attempt.

[prayforprincess]

6 days in a row straight through O as you can can see in my chart in my siggy. What about you?

I am starting my attempts on Monday, as I am due to ovulate on Wednesday 2/22. We will dtd morning and night (2xday) for 3 days straight, o-2, o-1 & 0. If I get a unexpected early +opk, then we will dtd starting that night when my dh gets home, 2xthat night, the following morning, two times that next night (o night) and once in the following am (o+12hours or so). No matter what I want to get in at least 5 attempts minimum. I am aiming for 6-7 tho if all goes as planned -- which it never does on the month's your trying to conceive.

[lemon2012]

Thanks p4p....if I go again, do I need to keep going?
I always wanted consecutive so it throws me off for a one day attempt.
Mocha...what about sept?
Was it a cutoff at all?
Your attempt sounds busy and very aggressive for a g and a bfp:)

[Mochagirl]

In Sept we had attempts 6 days in a row, with the last one on O day.

[amari]

Hey, ladies. Sorry I've been MIA. I was sick since thursday and then started to feel better this wknd but was at my parents and busy with wknd plans. Hope everyone is doing great! Hope to have time to catch up tomorrow or later tonight!! Thinking of you all! xxoo Amari

[jazzers]

Hi ladies! I was hoping someone else might have experience with this... I am 8DPO today. This morning, my temp dipped a bit (still above coverline, but barely), and this afternoon I've had lots of AF-type cramping, and some pink/red spotting. Last cycle was my first cycle after weaning the baby, and also my first cycle post partum, and my LP was only 10 days. So, now I'm worried that this is AF starting again, and that my body doesn't even have a long enough LP right now to support a pregnancy :( Anyone else had this?? Any suggestions?? I'm so bummed :(

[KraizyDaizy]

Hi ladies! I was hoping someone else might have experience with this... I am 8DPO today. This morning, my temp dipped a bit (still above coverline, but barely), and this afternoon I've had lots of AF-type cramping, and some pink/red spotting. Last cycle was my first cycle after weaning the baby, and also my first cycle post partum, and my LP was only 10 days. So, now I'm worried that this is AF starting again, and that my body doesn't even have a long enough LP right now to support a pregnancy :( Anyone else had this?? Any suggestions?? I'm so bummed :(

Jazzers, it sounds to me like you might be having an implantation dip if your temp went down. Is the spotting red or brown?

[littlemissnaughty7]

I know I will be the exact same way during my 2ww. I was laughing with my girlfriend last night because I feel like once I POAS and get a bfp I will jump up and down "hurray I can eat again I am going out to dinner tonight to celebrate...and oh ya, wahoo for being pregnant too!" I think I will first test 11dpo. When are you testing?

this is my thought exactly too, i soooooooooooo cant wait to eat meat and fries and more meat and chocolate bars and big fat cakes ohhhhhhhhhh im soooooooooooooooo hungry, im on CD 8 now nothing going on much no symptoms of clomid working i hope it does, although my cervix did feel soft today, when should i start testing opks ?

[auroara78]

prayforpriness, and LMN7,

I would say once you get the BFP hurry and gorge out all you can while you can. Once I hit 6 weeks, my appetite died and the nausea set in pretty bad that all I can handle is pretty plain or healthy foods, esp. crave fresh fruit. So if you want that steak, I'd hit it up right after the BFP to celebrate :heart:

Last night we were all still so sick that DH ran out to grab us take out from a BBQ place that's really good. My appeite is still crap from nausea + sinus infection so I just had some of their scalloped poatotes but they were so buttery and yummy it did fill me up and didn't make me sick after either, so that was nice. Hubby also drove to an area he hates (really traffic-icky) to get us gourmet cupcakes at this cupcake place. The store competed in the Food Network show "Cupcake Wars" if anyone has ever seen it. I love the show and I was floored when I saw someone from Richmond VA on it, and then when we found out the shop was 15 mins away, well now we go a little too often :) really moist delicous cupcakes that are NOT too sweet. They are so divine!

So DH was behaving yesterday!

[auroara78]

KD, I'm so excited that you got a lot of attempts in! I just feel this is your BFP cycle! I got my BFP at 9? or maybe it was 10 dpo? So :fingers: that this is your month!

I know there are quite a few of ya'll who are O'ing around the 20th, how are the sway plans going?

[KraizyDaizy]

KD, I'm so excited that you got a lot of attempts in! I just feel this is your BFP cycle! I got my BFP at 9? or maybe it was 10 dpo? So :fingers: that this is your month!

Wouldn't you know it, I used my last internet HPT stick this am, which of course was a BFN, so I have to decide whether to buy some FRER or wait it out. More than likely the :poas: in me will be running to the store tonight LOL!!! Thanks for the vibes Auroura, how many attempts did you do? remind me of your sway?

[auroara78]

We did o-3 & O day. We did have sex unprotected on o-7 but don't think anything would have come of that. I couldn't get my husband to have any more sex. He couldn't get the motor running. He was worn out by a o-3 & O day attempts.
So I guess only 2 tries in my fertile window, I'm sure the o day attempt is the one that got me pg.

I got an ultra faint (seemed almost like an evap) on a Clear Blue Easy Early test at 9 dpo? and a much stronger second line on a FRER at 10 dpo. I think FRER are the way to go. They are expensive, but they are very precise and do have nice lines early, unlike other tests that really don't go dark or even show a second line until after AF is due.

[prayforprincess]

Lemon: If you know you have already ovulated I would not keep dtd. Are you temping? If you've already gotten your temp spike then no need to dtd anymore. If not, then I would say ya, it can't hurt to dtd again.

Jazzer's: Is it red or pink/brown blood? We can all speculate but if you are pg you will know for sure in 5-7 days. Unfortunately its one of those things you'll have to wait out -- waiting is so hard tho.

Littlemiss: When do you expect to ovulate? I am starting opk's tomorrow/6 days before I expect to o. I will test 2xday for the 1st 3 days and then 3xday til I get my +opk. Morning, afternoon and before bed.

Auroara: I hear you about the food. Did not even think of it. I start feeling the nausea around 6 weeks so I'll have a good 2 weeks worth of eating before my food desires begin to change.

O'ing in 6-7 days, can't wait to be in my 2ww. I will still only eat 2x day to keep glucose low but will loosen up on the food a bit. Still no meat and I will only eat the "right" foods, but I will be a little less careful about amounts. If I hit 50 grams protein, or go a little over on the sodium for example I won't freak.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey auroara thats exactly what i plan to do just eat eat and eat untill the nausea hits me, god i hope its this month, i doubt it as were only doing 1 attempt,

the last 3 times i took clomid ages ago i ovulated cd 16, cd 17, and cd 19 so to be honest i have no idea when to expect it lol, ive started to poas today and il do that 2x a day for a few days then maybe 3 or 4 times a day as i need to make sure i catch the very begining of my surge to decipher the 0+12 attempt,

[lemon2012]

Hello,

Kd.....you are an POWs addict...hope it is bfp!
You had a great attempt!

P4p..thanks for the advice....

Little miss....how will you know you are o plus? Will you abstain or fr? GL:)

Hi amari:)

Pinkin....how are you?

So, here is my horrible attempt.....just when we started..literally started....our 5 year old started to be sick and then again every 2 hours!
All night long. I stayed home from work today.
So, now bc we stopped on sun....min we were soooo tired and bd'ed out...and then last night we missed it bc of a sick child....we will try again tonight. The thing is, I think I am oing today instead of yesterday...so it is possible.
However, the sway is gone....I ate food..lol, stopped fr, and no extra stuff.
I am so sad we were worn out mon...and not able to last night.
Seriously, fate is playing tricks.
I do still have Ewcm....can't use met temp although it was up a bit....but I did not sleep, I still have major I pains and achy etc.......more advice!

Thanks and GL everyone!

Ps aurora....how long after your opk did you dtd?
I hate ms!

[auroara78]

actually I only took one opk that cycle and it was barely a negative, but BD anyway at 5 am on Christmas Day and that was the day I concieved. Previous cycles I got a + OPK one day before I ovulated, if that helps any.

[prayforprincess]

HELP!!!

Ok, so I don't really know my cm very well yet. Always been on birth control since a teen then when went off for one month accidentally got pg with ds1. Then back on bc, and when off 1st month pg with ds2. then back on bc while breastfeeding and when finally went off to try for #3, got pg 1st month trying. So I don't really know what my body does well yet not on bc or pregnant.
Anyway, today is cd10 for me -- normally I o on cd16 or 17. I was feeling little twinges on my left side, and a slight pain -- nothing too noticable though. I got outta the shower and tested my cm and its clear, wet and a bit stretchy. So I freaked out, omg maybe I am o-ing early. I did not even opk test this morning b/c I figured I would start tomorrow on cd11. I talked to my girlfriend on the phone and she said don't worry. You get wet for a few days before you o. Is that true for all of u???
I don't see how I could o this early. My temps are 97.7-97.8 everyday. No dip-- nothing yet. So my temps don't show anything happens.
Sorry for tmi -- but do u girls normally get really clear,wet, watery a few days before you o or is it just when u o??

[auroara78]

For me it was about a week before O, and on O day itself it started to taper off, usually my most abundant EWCM was about 2-4 days before O.

[Mochagirl]

I usually get ewcm for up to 5 days before O.

[pinkin2011]

I get ewcm for about 5 days before o too and find i dont have much the day of o

[KraizyDaizy]

I don't want to be excited, in case I don't end up with a BFP this month, but my 21-day progesterone results are back and after taking Clomid cd5-10, my level is 38!!!! Last month it was a mesley 8!!! I asked her if I could be pregnant already with that high a number and she said yes!!! My level has never been that high ever!!!! Can you tell I am excited??????

Ladies, share you progesterone levels success stories with me for those who are pregnant and those who are not, what were your levels?

[dannikins]

i get fertile CM for about a week before O, and usually goes creamy right after.

[lemon2012]

actually I only took one opk that cycle and it was barely a negative, but BD anyway at 5 am on Christmas Day and that was the day I concieved. Previous cycles I got a + OPK one day before I ovulated, if that helps any.

What do you mean...barely negative?
I had a super super dark positive yesterday evening.
The day before I had a barely ain't line but it showed up the same time as the control line so I knew I was close. Maybe you were actually o-24?
And o-2?

I am thinking I am at most 0-2.5 ...useless at my age and at least 0-2.
Today would be o plus 24....silly and useless or 0 plus 8-12 hrs somewhere in there.
Just wondering why more people don't keep biding through o and afterwards like Kd?
Seems like a good idea.....we were burned out at 11 days.

So, I guess today is actually o day?

[lemon2012]

I get ewcm for about 5 days before o too and find i dont have much the day of o

Really pink?
Did you have your attempt?
When did you dtd after o?
What about last month...this is kind of like yours.....0-3 and 0 day right?

[lemon2012]

I don't want to be excited, in case I don't end up with a BFP this month, but my 21-day progesterone results are back and after taking Clomid cd5-10, my level is 38!!!! Last month it was a mesley 8!!! I asked her if I could be pregnant already with that high a number and she said yes!!! My level has never been that high ever!!!! Can you tell I am excited??????

Ladies, share you progesterone levels success stories with me for those who are pregnant and those who are not, what were your levels?

Woooohoooooooo!
Cautiously of course!

[lemon2012]

Yep, for several days before...creamy and stretcy, clear, then white, then clear we and watery and very stretchy.
My big confusion are the o pains..they last forever and sometimes are quite debilitating
Then it hurts to sit down due to pressure in my bum...still don't know what that is!
Pinkin, you get that right? How long after that or before that do you think you o?

[Mochagirl]

Have there been any updates from suregena? I've been thinking about her and hope she's ok.

[pinkin2011]

Lemon, I get a feeling usually on o day of being uncomfortable in my lower tummy and bowl area.. Then all of a sudden which the last to cycles have been in the late pm I start to get real bad pain which feels like its in my bowl area and it hurts!!! It is so painful to even dtd. So I got the real bad bad pain about 8pm and it lasted all night id say because i went to bed at 11pm and it was BAD then.. when i woke up it was still there but no where near what it was the night before , we dtd at 6am and was still a bit uncomfortable to dtd.. So I am not sure when my body actually releases the egg?? I am not even counting dpo this month because i dont feel confident so I am just not interested at all! We only dtd once at 6am because i only just made up my mind after talking to my d/h and decided to go ahead , d/h had already released 2 times that day and we tried to dtd when i got the pains but it just wasnt happening for him... soooo had no choice but to wait until 6am, have no one to blame but myself for that because i should of made up my mind earlier and dtd on his second release !! Oh well cant change it now i can only hope next month is better!!

[pinkin2011]

sorry just read over that its meant to say my last two cycles i have noticed the pain in the pm

[Mochagirl]

Lemon, although my O pain is nothing like yours, I must say that my strongest O pains actually come about 2 days before O, which I confirm with temperature.

[lemon2012]

Thanks mocha and pinkin!

Once is better than nothing pinkin....and you never know:)

We blew it with too many right out of the gate....and I am oing late in the cycle.

I still have clear Ewcm and it is minimal but totally there.
I am not sure how interested either of us will be as we did not sleep at all.
Oh, and dh now has recharged his sperm....
What to do?

[lemon2012]

Lemon, I get a feeling usually on o day of being uncomfortable in my lower tummy and bowl area.. Then all of a sudden which the last to cycles have been in the late pm I start to get real bad pain which feels like its in my bowl area and it hurts!!! It is so painful to even dtd. So I got the real bad bad pain about 8pm and it lasted all night id say because i went to bed at 11pm and it was BAD then.. when i woke up it was still there but no where near what it was the night before , we dtd at 6am and was still a bit uncomfortable to dtd.. So I am not sure when my body actually releases the egg?? I am not even counting dpo this month because i dont feel confident so I am just not interested at all! We only dtd once at 6am because i only just made up my mind after talking to my d/h and decided to go ahead , d/h had already released 2 times that day and we tried to dtd when i got the pains but it just wasnt happening for him... soooo had no choice but to wait until 6am, have no one to blame but myself for that because i should of made up my mind earlier and dtd on his second release !! Oh well cant change it now i can only hope next month is better!!
Oh, I see why you have the o plus bd then!
If that I'd the case you are probably more like o and a few hours maybe???
Does anyone think that since dh released a lot over the last two weeks it will make a difference even though we have not bd in 2 days?

[pinkin2011]

Lemon I think you need to have d/h release for 7/10 days straight and then start dtd.. I wouldnt miss two days and then start again because i think is sperm count would be fairly high without releasing for 2 days??? If we had of missed one day i would make d/h release twice or 3 times.. If you could get d/h to release twice and then dtd on the 3rd that is an option BUT If he is anything like my d/h 2 times in a day is a HUGE effort!

As for my attept yes i think it was o plus a few hrs but i just cant be totally sure which is a bummer but i guess will find out soon enough the outcome!

[prayforprincess]

Lemon-- If you missed 2 days I would definitely have dh release 1-2 times before you bd. Are you dtd everyday this cycle?? I am confused....what is your bd plan -- or shall I ask, what has it become now?

Thanks for responses -- it really helps. I took an opk at 5:30 and it was negative so big relief. But I got paranoid and used a whole application of rephresh at 3pm today just incase so now I messed up my rephresh plan. Oh well, I can just continue to take it every 3 days. Taking it today early was 2 1/4 days after my last full app.

[lemon2012]

Thanks everyone!
He did yesterday in the am as we were going to bd last night thinking it was o day....then ds1 started to be sick.
He tried this am...nothing...could not do it.
Other than one day we have bd though....and he is 39!

Guess I will take the chance....?

[amari]

Hey, lemon! Just trying to catch up! What did you end up doing with your attempt? Sorry it got messed up. Maybe it worked out for the best, FX!

KD-That's great news! I've never had progesterone levels taken, but hope this is it for you! What was your attempt like?

Hello to all the other ladies!!

[pinkin2011]

Hi Amari !!

[PeonyPrincess]

KD, I have no idea about progesterone levels, but it is sounding very good. FX!

PforP, CM is different for everyone. Last month I had 4 days of watery and then 2 days of EWCM and then O. It is all about seeing what your own pattern is, but I understand why you haven't been able to do that in the past.

Hi everybody else! I have been super busy so have only just been able to do a catch up on the latest.

[dannikins]

Have there been any updates from suregena? I've been thinking about her and hope she's ok.

yeah , this.....

[rainbowflower]

yeah , this.....

can't see a "this"? hopefully it's a vanished BFP pic?

[HappyLea]

Morning ladies, im more of a lurker on this thread as it moves so fast i cant keep up.

:FX: for you ladies making your attempts and hope we start seeing some BFP's from those whom have already made their attempts.

Today is CD13 and since CD11 we have been making a splime attempt per day as i think im due a shorter cycle soon, so thought we would get to it so we dont miss our fertile window. We switched to FR as AS said no point abstaining then making several attempts. I have dropped rephresh at moment as my ph has been ok and just going with the splime and the herbs and baby aspirin.
I feel sorry for DH tho as he not getting any real action and if i have a longer cycle then expected he will not have it for a while yet.

[amari]

Hi, pink! How are you feeling? Glad you decided to get an attempt in this month, can't hurt, right?

Morning all!

[littlemissnaughty7]

OH GUYS HELP ME ........ i have had a nightmare i dont know what the heck is going on, i had some stretchy cm yestaerday i had back ache and i could feel a sore thriat comin on which now thinking about it has happened the last 2 times i ovulated, i was taking my ph also yesterday and it kept rising from a 5.5 in the am to a 6.7 ! last night, i didnt think anything of it and went to bed as i was only on cd8 yesterday (cd 9 today) well i woke up this am with a huge temp rise (could this be from sore throat ?) and my stretchy cm had gone and i couldnt get any out for ages but when i finally got some it was white and creamy and would not stretch one bit, i applied a whole app of rephresh, took sudafed, drank tons of aspartame and coke, i thought have i ovulated ? on cd 8/9 ????? i rang my DH whos phone was off got hold of him an hour later and drove to where he was working and he dtd in a cup and i inserted it once i got home after i had it in my bra on the way home, after that i had some citirizine and a satchet of CL (err in my mouth it was awful i spat it out) i also took 2 aspirin, and an hour after inserting DH sample i put half a FTF of replens, i took an opk this morning it was very negative, but i took one yesterday morning and that was negative too, i dont know whats happened have i really messed it all up, could i have ovulated this early i only finished the clomid on cd6 (3 days ago) i hope i havent as this attempt was awful and i was quite stressed with all the rushing around, if i did ovulate i think we did a 0+15 attempt as when i checked cm last night at 11pm it was still stretchy, and we did our attempt at 9.45am this morning, any advice ladies what do you all think ??????

[Mochagirl]

can't see a "this"? hopefully it's a vanished BFP pic?

Nope - it was just a quote from me saying I wondered how suregena is doing since we haven't heard from her in a while...

[prayforprincess]

Today is CD13 and since CD11 we have been making a splime attempt per day as i think im due a shorter cycle soon, so thought we would get to it so we dont miss our fertile window. We switched to FR as AS said no point abstaining then making several attempts. I have dropped rephresh at moment as my ph has been ok and just going with the splime and the herbs and baby aspirin.

This sounds like what I am doing, only I am not using splime -- I am using rephresh.

[prayforprincess]

OH GUYS HELP ME ........ i have had a nightmare i dont know what the heck is going on, i had some stretchy cm yestaerday i had back ache and i could feel a sore thriat comin on which now thinking about it has happened the last 2 times i ovulated, i was taking my ph also yesterday and it kept rising from a 5.5 in the am to a 6.7 ! last night, i didnt think anything of it and went to bed as i was only on cd8 yesterday (cd 9 today) well i woke up this am with a huge temp rise (could this be from sore throat ?) and my stretchy cm had gone and i couldnt get any out for ages but when i finally got some it was white and creamy and would not stretch one bit, i applied a whole app of rephresh, took sudafed, drank tons of aspartame and coke, i thought have i ovulated ? on cd 8/9 ????? i rang my DH whos phone was off got hold of him an hour later and drove to where he was working and he dtd in a cup and i inserted it once i got home after i had it in my bra on the way home, after that i had some citirizine and a satchet of CL (err in my mouth it was awful i spat it out) i also took 2 aspirin, and an hour after inserting DH sample i put half a FTF of replens, i took an opk this morning it was very negative, but i took one yesterday morning and that was negative too, i dont know whats happened have i really messed it all up, could i have ovulated this early i only finished the clomid on cd6 (3 days ago) i hope i havent as this attempt was awful and i was quite stressed with all the rushing around, if i did ovulate i think we did a 0+15 attempt as when i checked cm last night at 11pm it was still stretchy, and we did our attempt at 9.45am this morning, any advice ladies what do you all think ??????

OMG! You sound like me LittleMiss. I don't know what to say but keep bd-ing daily til you know o is definitely over (confirmed with temp for at least 4 days). That si what I am doing cause I don't wanna miss this month either.

[prayforprincess]

Ok so I have no idea. My gut tells me there is no way I am o-ing this early(cd11), but who know's.
My dh came home last night and we just dtd at 11pm w/ no sylk (I had used a full app. of rephresh at 3pm yesterday) and I jumped and dumped 1 minutes after. I took my temp. this morning and it went down nearly .4 degrees! Since cd1 I have been 97.75-97.82 everyday. Yesterday I was 97.88 and this morning I was 97.51. So there was a dip down and we dtd again this morning with Sylk (my dh hates the lube and said no more, so I am just using rephresh from now on). I did not j&d, just laid there for 20 minutes before getting up.
And get this: I took the opk yesterday at 5:30 and -. Then I took another at 10pm and it was negative but when I took the stick out (its digital smiley) the blue dye was all smeared on the test screen. Then when I woke I took another before we dtd because my temp went low and I thought maybe I would get a + cause my cm is still really watery with a little stretch, and the f*#^ing thing showed the "book" symbol on the screen. Meaning the base is broken and do not use anymore test stripes with this tester. Are you kidding me??? Now I can't take any of those negative reading for real b/c the thing is broken. I have been using these for months, no problem. The one time it counts - the crap thing breaks on me. You can't make this up.
So now I can't rely on opk's. WTF! Who knows now when I am o-ing. I will stay ontop of my cm and buy another digital today to keep testing just in case I have not o'ed yet. I don't wanna stress about it -- what can I do? My dh is not sleeping in NYC tonight, he is driving home. So we are just going to dtd again tonight and every night until my temps and cm confirm ovulation is over. I don't want to assume this is o and stop bd-ing in a day or two and then potentially miss o-ing early next week if this was not o. And I don't want to not dtd now when this very well could be o.
So, I am just going to dtd straight thru every night. I don't see how I have any other option because I do not want to miss out on trying this month. My only concern -- he has only been fr-ing for 6 days straight (from cd4-10) before we began to dtd last night. Is that terrible? Already this am tho he is saying its getting hard. I'm thinking good, that means low testosterone.
Do you all think all this bd-ing is ruining my sway? I am soooo strict on the diet and have been for 8 weeks. I am using rephresh, taking saw palmetto and zyrtec. Dh has been having no meat for 8 weeks and taking cranberry daily and LR 1-2xday. Though I have to say that the cranberry and diet is not bringing his ph down one bit.
Anyway, do you think I am still doing a strong sway even though we are bd-ing 1-2xdaily for a full week??
This is not how I envisioned it -- what can I do but go with it.

[littlemissnaughty7]

we are only doing a one attempt though hun and we have already done it with that awful stressed attempt this morning, could i really have already O on cd 8/9 ????? i dont know what to think, can a sore thraot raise your temp ??

[prayforprincess]

Illness can raise your temp.
I am asking myself the same thing....can I really o on cd11 or 12? I am always always 16 or 17. Certainly never earlier than 14.
I don't know what to say, anything is possible. And on this diet and taking the supplements it could definitely mess up your cycle. Which is a good thing I suppose, but makes it hard to time bding.

[auroara78]

LMN7, I think a sore throat can raise temp some. I don't personally believe you O'ed, as you had super neg OPK? I mean it could have happened but I believe with clomid it would have been more obvious than that?

Pray for Princess, I don't believe you are O'ing this early yet either, though I did O on CD12 on my BFP cycle. I would do what you're planing to do: keep up the Rephresh, DTD every night until you've confirmed you've O'ed.

KD, that progesterone level is great! Hopefully it's because of a pregnancy! I have never been told any progesterone levels, so I don't know what to compare that too, but it sounds a lot better than the 8 you had last month!

Peony, YAY! So glad to see you around again! Your attempt is coming up real soon, huh?

I really do hope Surgena is OK. I'm hoping she just had to had to take some time off the forums because of frustration....

Lemon, I hope you get a BFP this cycle! Barely neg OPK is when there are two lines but the test line is still lighter than the reference line, meaning there is probably some LH going, but it's not the 'full surge'. I took the OPK though when I had really diluated urine, so if I had held it, it prob. would have certainly been a pos.

And to everyone else that I missed, sorry....preggy brain is hitting me again...good luck everyone else with attempts and what not....

[littlemissnaughty7]

prayforprincess hun im hoping neither of us have ovulated yet and that its just a scare, il get my DH to FR every day now 2 x a day god i hope he can do it lol,

[littlemissnaughty7]

im hoping your right auroara just the thought of messing it all up on my first attempt is killing me,

[prayforprincess]

Littlemiss- as long as dh is releasing 1-2xday you'll be fine -- you did not mess anything up.

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi everyone. I haven't been on in two days and its been busy. Will read through when I have time. Its hard right now I had a small procedure on my eye lid and it got so swollen its completely bothering me, I can hardly see. I thought it would be so simple, I would never have done this right before my attempt if I knew my eye would totally blow up. Stress I just don't need right now.

I started a thread some of you may have seen- I am going to go through with the attempt. Started the clomid on CD 3. Everything about the sway so far is so strong I think its probably better to proceed!
Catch up more later.

[suregena]

good luck pinkin!

stilll can't believe no AF surgena...I'd still head down to DR ASAP



Hi, just an update! Still NO AF!!!

Went to the doctor today and going to get a blood test tomorrow.

Edited to add, am on CD43...

[prayforprincess]

anyone ever check their ph after dtd while using rephresh?
I used a whole app. yesterday at 3pm. We dtd last night and again this morning. I checked my ph (which is always 4-5, 5 highest when not dtd) before I hopped in the shower at 11:30 --over 4 hours after dtd this morning; and my ph was 6.
Shouldn't the rephresh be doing its job and bringing my ph back down after dtd?

[purple sky]

Good Morning girls :) This thread has been busy. I'll have to catch up on everyone. I see some of you already had attempts.
I've been sick all week, no fever just stuffy, watery eyes, sore throat (common cold I think) Is there anything I can take? I haven't taken anything except zyrtec and it helped with the scratchy throat.

So I just found out over the weekend that my DH has been hiding something HUGE.. Literally. He has had swelling in his scrotum for about 3 years and within the last few months his left testicle has grown extremely large and hard. I had no idea at all. Believe me I feel soooo stupid for not noticing such a thing. He told me on Saturday and I took him to the ER to have it looked at. We were told that it looks like fluid build up and he has to have his left testicle removed! The Dr. mad a joke about how I could have missed something like that, I felt so dumb. Anyway I asked the dr. if that could be the reason we haven't been able to conceive and he said that definitely could be a possibility.
I am due to Ovulate in a few days and I feel all this time on the diet and ttc has been such a waste. I am glad my dh finally got the courage to say something to me, however I am so mad that all this time I thought there was something wrong with me and he never told me.
Not sure what to do about this month, I want to try anyway just incase since I'm so close to O but I am sure it's going to be a fail :(
Okay rant over

[LauriAnn]

Hi everyone! Just wanted to to introduce myself. I'm 34 and mother to the most beautiful boy in the world. We swayed for him using shettles and an unintentional boy diet.

We start trying for our girl this month and I'm really excited to incorporate everything I've learned on this site. Good luck to all of you!

[purple sky]

Hi LauriAnn :) Welcome

[LauriAnn]

Thank Purple Sky:) is there some sort of master thread where we all can share our sway efforts? I'm in the very beginning and want to make sure I have all of my bases covered.

[purple sky]

Just got a positive OPK! Yay I was hoping I would O on the new moon though :(
Oh well i don't have much hope this cycle anyway....

[LauriAnn]

That's exciting purple Sky! good luck!

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - I can't believe af STILL hasn't come! Here's hoping you get answers quickly!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all purple you go get that egg honey, you still have a great chance of getting pregnant,

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi laurieann welcome huni

[suregena]

Suregena - I can't believe af STILL hasn't come! Here's hoping you get answers quickly!



:( Yeah. Today CP is high and I'm STILL cramping. I give up. I don't even know anymore.
I brought up ectopic to the doctor but he didn't seem concerned because he said even with that I would have a positive test by now...

Eh. Might just be super super super super late, but just weird, even for me...

[purple sky]

Surgena - Did your dr. give you anything to bring on AF?

[suregena]

No... they won't do things unnecessarily here. They're starting with a blood test first just to check there is no definite pregnancy or issue that are detectable that way, to start.

[prayforprincess]

So I went this afternoon and bought a new digital opk.
Held my pee from 11:30-4:30 (tho I was drinking during that time which apparently one should not). Took the test at 4:30 and got a smiley. What?? I guess I am ovulating tomorrow, cd12. That is sooo unusual for me. So dh is coming home tonight and we will dtd tonight, tomorrow am, tomorrow night 2x and the next day am. So THANK GOD we dtd last night and this morning!! Wahoo for me and listening to my body and gut. All in all we will have gotten in 6-7 attempts in the fertile window. Ya!
I think I will continue to dtd every night after o+1 til I get a definite confirmed by temps and all that o has taken place just in case -- it can't hurt and just incase all these crazy opk's are junk I don't wanna chance missing o.

[prayforprincess]

Hi Laurieann -- welcome!

Sorry Purple sky. Don't give up though, i think you should still give it many attempts and you could be pleasantly surprised!

[prayforprincess]

ooo, and my biorhythms are strong girl for tomorrow, red up high and blue down low.
and the moon sign is capricorn which is female

I don't believe in all that but it can't hurt to hope.

[purple sky]

PFP - I will O tomorrow or Saturday too! No O pain this cycle which is weird for me. I am on cd 15 today so we are really close. I am planning to dtd tonight, 2x tomorrow and saturday. I guess i just have to try

[pinkin2011]

You girls that are having lots of attempts are making me jealous!! I really wish I had of done more then one now!! And esp that i dtd a few hrs after o I doubt I have much chance!

[PeonyPrincess]

P4P and LMN7, after starting to read your posts I was going to say that I don't think either of you have O, but I think you worked that out now anyway. P4P, glad you got your smiley, and all your attempts are going well. You two sound like you have been running around like chooks with your heads chopped off! It is so typical that the cycles play tricks on you when you want everything to go smoothly hey.

Purple sky, men are terrible at keeping things to themselves. It is so fortunate that they don't think it is something more serious like testicular cancer. I can't believe he has kept it to himself for 3 years! My DH wouldn't dare as I have a medical background and tend to grill him about health stuff. It probably got to the stage where he couldn't ignore it any longer. GL with your attempt this month. I don't blame you for being angry at him.

Auroara, so happy to hear you are going well, even if you are on an enforced healthy eating regime! I am CD 9. Hoping to O on the 22nd or 23rd of Feb. FX!

[PeonyPrincess]

ooo, and my biorhythms are strong girl for tomorrow, red up high and blue down low.
and the moon sign is capricorn which is female

I don't believe in all that but it can't hurt to hope.

I do believe in it, so I think that is great! Go and get yourself pg girl!!

[PeonyPrincess]

You girls that are having lots of attempts are making me jealous!! I really wish I had of done more then one now!! And esp that i dtd a few hrs after o I doubt I have much chance!

You just never know Pinkin. And if not, maybe it will be the perfect March attempt! Practise makes perfect right.

[PeonyPrincess]

Suregena, that is insane! I hope you find out what is going on soon. Maybe you need to see your mum again?

[suregena]

Suregena, that is insane! I hope you find out what is going on soon. Maybe you need to see your mum again?

Yeah, maybe! I always miss my momma. :(

[prayforprincess]

So, my dh is dying!! He's said this morning "this is not fun anymore", I responded "its not supposed to be fun honey, we are making a baby".
He always begs for sex and complains he does not get it often enough and now he just wants to give it a rest for a while.
We dtd again last night when he got home from NYC at midnight and this morning at 7am before he left for work.
Got a +opk yesterday at 4:30, and I got a tempt spike this morning. Wedn. I was 97.87, yesterday I was 97.52 and this am I was 97.9. If my temp's continue to go up then FF says that I ovulated yesterday, cd11. I think I am ovulating today, given I got my +opk yesterday late afternoon -- although I probably would have gotten a +opk earlier if the darn thing hadn't broke on me in the morning. Maybe I ovulated late last night.
And this am I noticed a tiny tiny bit of light pinkish blood. Just a tiny bit. Could that be ovulation bleeding? Or the fact that I have been having a crazy amount of sex?? I would think if it was the bd-ing then it would be red and have been a little more. I read that a tiny bit of pinkish/brown blood around ovulation is a sign of a strong ovulation. Lets hope that is true and what it is.
I can't really get a read on my cm anymore because of all the bd-ing, rephresh & zyrtec. It certainly is not creamy or anything yet.
So, the +opk correlates with my temps and all. I really hope this was o and my temps continue to rise cause I don't know how much more bd-ing we can do. Will still dtd tonight, and then continue every night until I have absolutely confirmed o.
Finger's crossed.

[prayforprincess]

Suregena -- this is crazy!! I cannot believe you still have not gotten your af. Maybe you ovulated really really late, (which would be really weird but stranger things have happened), or maybe you did not ovulate at all. If you don't ovulate then I don't think you get your period.
That happened to me one month. I was on bc and then went off the bc to start an Ivf cycle. I was waiting to get my af after taking my last pill and it never came. The office had me come in to check my blood. It said that my estrogen had risen (as if I had gotten my af but I didn't) and to start taking my injections. I was so hesitant thinking the cycle was doomed to fail -- I never didn't get my af. They said it can happen and it means nothing. Anyhow -- it ended in a completely failed cycle. Goes to show -- go with your gut.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all how are we, well my temp came down today so i dont think i ovulated so DH is FR 2 x a day now as we were doing abstinance, bloody typical hey, well i dont know whats going on but since being on clomid my ph is 6.3 !!! and i dont know what to do to take it down, i took rephresh yesterday morning a whole app but still its 6.3 this afternoon why is this, i thought it brought it down, prayforprincess didnt you have this happen to you, what did you do to bring your ph down, and could it be the clomid thats made it rise ? can anyone help and tell me other ways to bring it down, i take 3 x aspirin a week, i drink caffeine free coke (should i switch this) i drink crystal light, and take acidophillus, any help would be great ?

[prayforprincess]

I did have a ph of 6 yesterday morning but that was after bd-ing twice. So not unusual. After checking yesterday evening and again this morning after bd-ing twice more it is around 5. I think I o'ed last night or maybe early this am (I got a .4 tempt spike this am) and used another whole app of rephresh (nearly 48 hours last last whole app.) this morning 1 hours after dtd.
I really have not used anything else. Little bit of sylk only twice.
I think when you are using clomid you should not use too many lubes. That is what I have read. I don't think the clomid makes it rise, I thought that clomid makes your cm even more harsh.
Taking clomid alone sways pink. There is only so much you can do. Not sure what to say.

[littlemissnaughty7]

i dont know what to do, i dont know whats gone wrong it was fine last month but now it won t budge down !

[littlemissnaughty7]

the only things ive been doing differently is ive switched to caffiene free coke from diet coke, ive been eating strawberries and ive been having some triffles and a diff cottage cheese in my diet aswel could any of those raise my ph ???

[KraizyDaizy]

CD25 and 10DPO with all BFN's grrrrrh!!! Come on pink girly vibes, get it together and get this bean growing already!!! Implant dammit, implant!!!!

Surgena I am praying for you. I have hope that your little bean is just being stubborn and your blood work comes out positive. Did they do a quantitative or qualitative? I always want to know the exact HCG number and not just yes or no.

[prayforprincess]

kraizydaizy -- I am rooting for you. 10dpo is still early. I know you are a poas addict but I never get bfp til 12dpo. Hang in there -- you are still in the game.

[KraizyDaizy]

kraizydaizy -- I am rooting for you. 10dpo is still early. I know you are a poas addict but I never get bfp til 12dpo. Hang in there -- you are still in the game.

Well my temps are higher than they have ever been before and we did DTD 6 days in a row, which we never did with our boys or other cycles, so I am so praying that I am pregnant. I dreamed I got a +HPT and seeing those two pink lines is so burned into my brain that I can almost think of nothing else!!! I have the Clear Blue digital HPT's and a couple FRER, but I am thinking that I like the FRER because in my eyes there is still hope of seeing a faint line and the digital's just give you no hope at all. Crazy huh?

Then my progesterone has never been that high either. I started using some progesterone cream regularly around 6DPO just in case because I have had to take progesterone under my tongue the first 12 weeks of my first two pregnancies due to spotting and a prior miscarriage so I am using it to try and make sure the egg has all it needs to attach and grow. I am not sure if it is making my temp go up, but it's just natural progesterone you get at the wellness store, so it is supposed to be safe to use after ovulation. Anyone else know anything about?

Clomid users are your docs monitoring your progesterone levels to make sure you Oed?

[suregena]

Waiting to get my blood taken. The referral says "HCG - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin(=Amenorrhea) ?cause"

[littlemissnaughty7]

suregena that means "why no period" i believe, no no one is checking that i ovulated with clomid, i can go for a 21 day blood check if i want 7 days after i O if i do O this time as i have a blood form from ages ago,

[KraizyDaizy]

suregena that means "why no period" i believe, no no one is checking that i ovulated with clomid, i can go for a 21 day blood check if i want 7 days after i O if i do O this time as i have a blood form from ages ago,

My doc does not give me the option, I get blood drawn at 21 days or no more Clomid.

[HappyLea]

hey ladies,

hope you are all well, i have lots to catch up on. hopefully will get some time on sunday to catch up. We have 2 kiddie parties to go to tomorrow, i will be pooped by time we get back.

We are on CD14 today and 4th day of splime attempt, DH wanted to do it this way but already is getting bored of it. The thing is im not sure when im gonna ov as it varies so could be any time from now till CD20ish so we may have to do another 6/7 attempts yet (he wasnt to happy to hear that). Kinda told him to suck it up in a nice way tho, he chose this option and i dont want to change tactics half way through.

If we dont conceive this month im sure he will be quite happy to drop the splime next attempt...lol!

[prayforprincess]

Well, now I know that I have definitely o'ed.
This morning I had such bloating and soreness down in my uterus.
And like I had already posted, yesterday I bought a new digital opk (b/c last one broke) and it was positive at 4:30pm.
But I also bought the stripe opk's, cvs brand. I used the same pee as yesterday's +digital opk with the strip one's and it was nearly close to looking positive (really have never taken those kinds before, they are hard to read). Anyhow, took another one late last night and it was lighter than the 1st one take. And today I took another one 24 hours later and there is only the faintest test line next to the control line. Yesterday the test line was dark, not quite as dark as the control but dark, and today barely there. So, I think the surge has happened and its fading out.
Does that happen to you guys too after you get your surge it fades out to nothing? Plus with my temp spike today, and I just took it again and its 98.7 -- that's high. I definitely already o'ed. I just hope my dh comes home early tonight so we can get in one more attempt before my egg dies.
Once your temp spikes high does that mean that ovulation has occured and the egg had 12-24 hours or does it mean the egg is dead?

[KnockYourBallsOff]

AF is due tomorrow and BFN. I'm out. Hope to temp the whole month next month and catch the egg. Sorry I don't ever catch up here--b/t homeschooling and housework and such, I'm just terrible at threads. Hope we have a few BFP's this month!!

[KraizyDaizy]

hey ladies,

hope you are all well, i have lots to catch up on. hopefully will get some time on sunday to catch up. We have 2 kiddie parties to go to tomorrow, i will be pooped by time we get back.

We are on CD14 today and 4th day of splime attempt, DH wanted to do it this way but already is getting bored of it. The thing is im not sure when im gonna ov as it varies so could be any time from now till CD20ish so we may have to do another 6/7 attempts yet (he wasnt to happy to hear that). Kinda told him to suck it up in a nice way tho, he chose this option and i dont want to change tactics half way through.

If we dont conceive this month im sure he will be quite happy to drop the splime next attempt...lol!

Spliming never worked for me, actually burned me, but hopefully it will work for you. I am very hopeful for you. I have also told my DH to suck it up and get on with it. He was not happy, but cry me a river, just give it up already!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Suregena, that blood test checks if you are pg, to try and explain why you have not got a period. If it comes back -ve, they will look at other causes for AF not arriving.

LMN7, sorry you are going through such hell this month. I was always under the impression that clomid sways girl as it makes the cm more hostile, not that it makes the cm have a lower pH. If you throw too much rephresh in there with the already hostile cm, I worry that the sperm won't stand a chance. Some women have really high pH and can't get it down no matter what they try, and then they still have a girl. I know it is not normal for you, but maybe your body needs to raise it a bit to get pg on the clomid?

P4P, yep sounds like you O! Yay. The temp spike confirms O, and I always thought that by then it was too late to BD, however one more BD won't do any harm. And next time DH whinges about not enough BD, you can always remind him how he got it all the time in Feb and didn't want it anymore!

KYBO, sorry for the BFN. I am not surprised you are busy with homeschooling. My SIL did it with just one of her children last year- it was such a lot of work.

[prayforprincess]

I am feeling bummed. Don't know why. We have gotten in 4 solid attempts - tho the 1st one was jump and dump. We will do another tonight and hopefully my egg is not dead yet.
I guess I would feel better if we had gotten 2 more in. Then I would feel certain. But this o totally caught me off guard. How could I have known. 4-5 attempts is ok I guess.
I just pray those little girl swimmers are strong and get in there!!! I need a bfp!

[dannikins]

Kraizy, your chart is looking fantastic!!!!!!!!
if i was a betting person i would put money on you this month....:)

good luck suregena, hope you get some answers real soon!

[PeonyPrincess]

Hi everyone. I haven't been on in two days and its been busy. Will read through when I have time. Its hard right now I had a small procedure on my eye lid and it got so swollen its completely bothering me, I can hardly see. I thought it would be so simple, I would never have done this right before my attempt if I knew my eye would totally blow up. Stress I just don't need right now.

I started a thread some of you may have seen- I am going to go through with the attempt. Started the clomid on CD 3. Everything about the sway so far is so strong I think its probably better to proceed!
Catch up more later.

Hi Hope. I haven't seen your other thread. I'll have a look later. Hope your eye is feeling better. Not long now hey!!

[suregena]

good luck suregena, hope you get some answers real soon!

Me too... I'm still cramping daily... it's all so confusing...

[HopeandDreamG]

Hey peonyprincess- my eye right now is a nightmare. I had a Routine tiny incision on my eyelid and of course my eye swelled so bad I can hardly see. That's why I have not been on! Hurts to look at computer. Started my clomid so I'm going with the attempt, trying to take it easy physically and mentally. My crohns is acting up a bit. I think from the stress of my eye! I CANNOT win :(. My diet is so strong, dh has been releasing frequently I feel I can't turn back now.

Prayforprincess- so happy for you your attempt sounds great! it's always a curve ball when attempt time comes. Glad u went with your gut!

KD- good luck hoping for a bfp for you !

Hi everyone else!

Suregena- holy I can't believe no AF still

[rainbowflower]

Where is OotB at the moment? not seen any posts in a while?

[HopeandDreamG]

Where is OotB at the moment? not seen any posts in a while?

She said she was taking a little break from posting during her attempt this month. I think she wanted to b the least stressed possible. Her post is a bunch of pages back. Don't remember exactly where or I'd quote what she said!

[rainbowflower]

She said she was taking a little break from posting during her attempt this month. I think she wanted to b the least stressed possible. Her post is a bunch of pages back. Don't remember exactly where or I'd quote what she said!

ah thank you, hope it works for her! (will be chart-stalking anyway ;) )

[Mochagirl]

Where is OotB at the moment? not seen any posts in a while?

Yep - she's taking a break. Her O is due sometime around the end of the month, so she's trying to chill as much as possible between now and then.

[prayforprincess]

I do not understand Fertility friend and how they calculate when o happened. Has anyone else had a disagreement with how they predicted when you o'ed?
I only got my +opk on Thursday, cd11 -- I had taken one on cd10 and they were negative. Yesterday I was so bloated and sore in my uterus area all day long. I am assuming and it makes sense that my ovulation would have been yesterday, the day after my +opk. And when I took a opk yesterday the digital was negative and the strip one was so light -- way lighter than the positive the day before.
Anyway, FF says that I ovulated on cd11. I just don't see how that is possible. I had a negative opk the day before and only got my +opk on cd11 in the afternoon. At the earliest I might have o'ed in the middle of the night. I just don't see why they would say that. Sure, my temp dip was the morning of cd11.
Does it really matter now anyway, it is what it is and I can't change anything. But I was just confused by their ovulation guesstimation.

[littlemissnaughty7]

FF does sometimes disagree with what we think but from my own experience i O on the day of the dip in temp hun,

[littlemissnaughty7]

well cd 11 for me today still waiting on O hope it comes soon !

[purple sky]

FF does sometimes disagree with what we think but from my own experience i O on the day of the dip in temp hun,
Yes, me too. I definitely O yesterday and i had a + opk yesterday and the day before. I'm upset my dh couldn't get things "working" on 2nd release last night so we didn't have an attempt but we did the night before. It's morning here and wondering if we should try even though I already O....

PFP - what time cd 10 did you have a negative? Maybe you took it a little too early and missed the start of the surge?

[HopeandDreamG]

PP- it doesn't matter now anyway, you still got your attempts in when you needed, FF does usually have O at last lowest temp followed by 3 higher temps! Congrats now your in the two week wait!

[HopeandDreamG]

Im CD 8. Finished clomid last night felt a pop in my lower left side. Never experienced o pains. I never never never feel these things. Could I O this early? Didn't start opks! thoughts?

[lemon2012]

Hi hope...not sure what you felt but being on clomid usually makes women ovulate later.

Hope you are well and your symptoms do not bother you:)

[littlemissnaughty7]

could be folicules growing hun,

[prayforprincess]

PFP - what time cd 10 did you have a negative? Maybe you took it a little too early and missed the start of the surge?
I think i did miss the start of the surge. I think if I had taken one cd11 in the morning or at least by noon it would have definitely been positive. The darn digital broke on me in the am of cd11 so I couldn't. You are right tho and normally I do ovulate in roughly 12 or so hours after + so that most likely is what happened.
I took one at 4:30 and 10pm on cd10. Both negative. Then woke up cd 11 and my temp dropped so went to take another digital opk and the monitor broke. Went out to get another digital and picked up some strip opks that afternoon. Took the digital at 4:30 cd11 and got + and pretty positive on the strips. I could tell if I took the strips earlier in the day they would have been darker. Yesterday, cd12 the strips were very light and Now on cd13 the strips show nothing at all so i know my surge is way gone and o definitely happened. Maybe I did o on cd11, just most likely very late, like midnight cd11 or early morning hours cd12.
Anyhow, its over now. We dtd cd10 11pm, cd11 7am, cd11 11:30pm, cd12 7am and cd12 8pm. We only did j&d on our 1st attempt cd10 and now i kinda wish we did not. oh well.

Hope -- I can't wait til ur attempts...when r u going to start?

Littlemiss -- are you only doing one attempt?

[HopeandDreamG]

Pp- cd 8 for me. Dh has been releasing everyday. Starting tonite will release for second time (I'll help!) tomorrow release twice also. Monday first attempt, Tuesday doc for ovidrel injection will dtd, and Wednesday and thursday! Rephresh just once Monday am. Any suggestions? Might use a drop of sylk with attempts.

Would love any last minute advice from everyone!

[HopeandDreamG]

could be folicules growing hun,




Ahhhhh makes sense! Interesting cause like I said I never have sensations like everyone always talks about.

[suregena]

Cramping, aching abdomen, lower backache.
Twinging. It's NEVERENDING.

I'm sorry I keep posting in here even though my chances are long but over, but I just have to get my frustration with this most bizarre cycle out somewhere. :(

[Mochagirl]

Post away, suregena - that's what we're here for. I can only imagine your frustration. I hope af comes really soon.

[purple sky]

PFP - Wow I am so jealous of all your attempts! I think you definitely have a great chance this cycle. We only got one attempt the day before O and today around 10:00a.m ( i really think it was way to late at this point though)

Hope - I agree, probably a follicle... Years ago when i was on clomid I did get cycts that felt weird and would just pop or dissapear

Lmn7 - Sounds like your pretty close to O?

Surgena - I really hope your Dr. can figure out what's going on and get your period back if your indeed not preggo

[Lassie1982]

I've only just seen this thread!

We'll be having our first attempt in Feb :)

So nervous, but excited as well!

Im currently on CD 6.

Based on previous month charting we will be DTD in CD 13 and 16 (Feb 26 and 29) This might vary though depending on what the OPK and temping results are (so i might end up being a March attempt, but thought id pop in here anyway)
Im planning to do roughly a 2 day cut off, and then a o+12 attempt, not stressing overly about timing though. Hoping the diet, suppliments, and rephresh and sylk will be enough.

Good luck to all the other Feb attempts!

[pinkin2011]

Hi Everyone,
Not much news from me this month..I am 6dpo I have had no symptoms apart from today I had bad ovary pain in the right side... But that could be anything ... Anyway I hope to see some nice bfp's this month from all you girls!!!!

[sweetsister]

FF finally gave me 3dpo today ,so i managed 9 attempts starting cd9 until cd17 and i oed on cd16, so i actually oed on clomid the same as i usually would have.I really hated the affects of clomid though i have been sick though while i oed so its hard to tell if it was that or the clomid ,but i did have bad o pains to say it lightly!Im just hoping it wasnt bad pains meaning multiple eggs?AAAhhh!

Hope ,i also had the same as you and it was folicles growing i had o pain cramping several times before o which confused me,but when it was o day those pains were unmistakeably o pains it was difficult to dtd that day but glad we did :)

[pinkin2011]

I am cramping so bad.. feels like o kind of again! I know its not tho , I am cramping on the left now!

[rainbowflower]

pinkin I had ovary-area twinges during my 2ww this cycle... hope it's a good sign!

[pinkin2011]

oh I so hope so Rainbow!!!!

[Cailinalainn]

Can I join in? We've been preparing since last July and finally took the plunge this month for our first attempt. Did a 3-day cutoff and O+12, which was last night. We've both been doing the IG diet and taking supplements as well as a variety of different things - burning essential oils, having a fan on, painting my nails, lime douche, Replens, no breakfast, saying a novena, wooden spoon and baby girl clothes under the bed, naming the baby and imagining life with a bump and a baby girl, diet coke, lots of milk and so on. I found gender-dreaming last year and then lost it and couldn't remember what it was called! Finally found it again this week and now I'm wondering whether we've been doing the right things at all! Anyway, just starting the 2ww now and keeping the fingers firmly crossed!

[rainbowflower]

oh I so hope so Rainbow!!!!

crossing everything for you :)

[rainbowflower]

Can I join in? We've been preparing since last July and finally took the plunge this month for our first attempt. Did a 3-day cutoff and O+12, which was last night. We've both been doing the IG diet and taking supplements as well as a variety of different things - burning essential oils, having a fan on, painting my nails, lime douche, Replens, no breakfast, saying a novena, wooden spoon and baby girl clothes under the bed, naming the baby and imagining life with a bump and a baby girl, diet coke, lots of milk and so on. I found gender-dreaming last year and then lost it and couldn't remember what it was called! Finally found it again this week and now I'm wondering whether we've been doing the right things at all! Anyway, just starting the 2ww now and keeping the fingers firmly crossed!
welcome!
things on this website are quite different to the traditional IG way... personally I found it good here because it's not just based on heresay and the recommendations are actually based on what the studies are finding! much prefer evidence-based swaying and everyone customising the sway to the one that fits them best :)
any questions, just ask!
have you found the getting started topic? http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/1585-read-me-first-planning-your-pink-sway.html
and the one that compares IG to this one? http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/7507-ig-vs-gd-swaying-whats-difference-who-atomic-sagebrush-anyway.html

[HopeandDreamG]

Yay rainbow you have an appleseed!

Pinkin- fingers crossed !

Sweetsister- attempt sounds great!! Thanks for input on clomid. I'm hoping for 2 eggs! Dont think dh will go for a fourth so here's my chance!!!

Lassie & Cailian- welcome :)

[Cailinalainn]

Thanks for the welcome and advice, rainbow. I have been trawling through all the posts and essays alright, but we were in the middle of our attempt when I got here do I just persevered as we were. Hopefully we'll get a BFP next week but, if not, I'll be coming back and checking them again and changing the plan. So much to take in!

[amari]

Hi ladies! How's everyone doing? I've been doing? I've been having a hard time posting lately, sorry about that. You all got some great attempts in! So excited for you!! Hope to see some BFP's and join you next month!!

Clomid users- hi! How did you all decide when to start bd'ing? Did you all use any lube or anything else? Trying to decide what to do next month! I would love for this to be over with!

[rainbowflower]

Thanks for the welcome and advice, rainbow. I have been trawling through all the posts and essays alright, but we were in the middle of our attempt when I got here do I just persevered as we were. Hopefully we'll get a BFP next week but, if not, I'll be coming back and checking them again and changing the plan. So much to take in!

~~~baby dust~~~! :D

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all i got a +opk on first response today twice (morning and just) but my clearblue digital still no smiley so im thinking ive caught the early tail of my surge i was going for a 0+12 but unsure when to do this, i had an attempt 2 days ago so im hoping the sperm will have stuck around, il keep doing clearblue digis until i get a smiley, so i know i prob shouldnt be doing a 0+12 on clomid but i wanted to try this just once to see if it happens, when should i time this from as i got a plus at 9 am this morning but it could of been plus at 6am if you know what i mean can i have some advice im starting to stress ?

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi ladies! How's everyone doing? I've been doing? I've been having a hard time posting lately, sorry about that. You all got some great attempts in! So excited for you!! Hope to see some BFP's and join you next month!!

Clomid users- hi! How did you all decide when to start bd'ing? Did you all use any lube or anything else? Trying to decide what to do next month! I would love for this to be over with!

If I were you I would dtd at postive smiley and for a few days after. You could also use regular OPK's and when its almost positive but you don't have a smiley yet you can start DTD then.

[HopeandDreamG]

hi all i got a +opk on first response today twice (morning and just) but my clearblue digital still no smiley so im thinking ive caught the early tail of my surge i was going for a 0+12 but unsure when to do this, i had an attempt 2 days ago so im hoping the sperm will have stuck around, il keep doing clearblue digis until i get a smiley, so i know i prob shouldnt be doing a 0+12 on clomid but i wanted to try this just once to see if it happens, when should i time this from as i got a plus at 9 am this morning but it could of been plus at 6am if you know what i mean can i have some advice im starting to stress ?

Def don't stress. Especially over timing which doesn't even sway, but your stressing does sway (the "wrong" way). I don't think it matters if it was positive at 6am or 9am . Maybe what you can do is assume it would have been positive at 6am and go from there-and count the hours starting at 6am to when you would normally O after a positive digital. THis way you can make it more likely you don't miss the egg, and waste a month on clomid. Does this all make sense?

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ Any news, hun?????

[littlemissnaughty7]

H&D i have no idea when i would O from a smiley digital or any other test, ive only ovulated twice before this month and that was from vitex, and i was only testing once a day so it could of been any time, should i count 48 hours after my +opk this morning at 9am ? if you were doing one attempt (even though i snuck in another 2 days ago (accident) when would you dtd on clomid ?

[purple sky]

Lmn7- I think 48hrs might be too late. Some girls O the same day. For instance this month I got a + and O the next day. So for me it was probably closer to 24 hours. So if I would have planned an O+12 it would have been around 36hrs.
I would suggest checking your cervix every couple hours..

[HopeandDreamG]

H&D i have no idea when i would O from a smiley digital or any other test, ive only ovulated twice before this month and that was from vitex, and i was only testing once a day so it could of been any time, should i count 48 hours after my +opk this morning at 9am ? if you were doing one attempt (even though i snuck in another 2 days ago (accident) when would you dtd on clomid ?

Its really hard to say, because without vitex my O was 2 days after positive digital. Once I started Vitex O was same day as the positive digital. Did you take Vitex up to CD1 this cycle? I'd hate to see you leave it too long and miss a chance all together. You have to do what you are comfortable with, but are you totally set on 0+12? or would you start DTD now or tonight for a couple of days.

I was set originally on doing one attempt (at + OPK), now I am doing at least 4. My timing though will be easy because I am getting a trigger injection which makes you O 24-36 hours. So my attempt will be day before, day of, and the next two days.

[KraizyDaizy]

Kraisy~ Any news, hun?????

BFNsssssss!!! Grrrh I could just scream!!!

[prayforprincess]

hi all i got a +opk on first response today twice (morning and just) but my clearblue digital still no smiley so im thinking ive caught the early tail of my surge i was going for a 0+12 but unsure when to do this, i had an attempt 2 days ago so im hoping the sperm will have stuck around, il keep doing clearblue digis until i get a smiley, so i know i prob shouldnt be doing a 0+12 on clomid but i wanted to try this just once to see if it happens, when should i time this from as i got a plus at 9 am this morning but it could of been plus at 6am if you know what i mean can i have some advice im starting to stress ?
I think if you are really trying to do an o+12, then you should dtd tomorrow night. Not too late though given you get a positive this morning. Don't forget once you actually begin to surge it takes about 4 hours to get into your urine ******. Generally people ovulate 24 hrs after they begin to surge. So I would say to dtd possibly 5pm and no later than 6pm tomorrow night. If you do it as early as 4pm that is not bad either.

[prayforprincess]

H&D i have no idea when i would O from a smiley digital or any other test, ive only ovulated twice before this month and that was from vitex, and i was only testing once a day so it could of been any time, should i count 48 hours after my +opk this morning at 9am ? if you were doing one attempt (even though i snuck in another 2 days ago (accident) when would you dtd on clomid ?

I would not do 48 hours. That is too much time. You are really really risking missing the egg all together.

[prayforprincess]

Hope&Dream - Your bd plan looks great!

Kraizy -- Keep testing. This is crazy -- you had such a great attempt this month. I am rooting for you!

[HopeandDreamG]

BFNsssssss!!! Grrrh I could just scream!!!

Your chart looks good! Hang in there. Its nowhere near over, hun!

[HopeandDreamG]

I would not do 48 hours. That is too much time. You are really really risking missing the egg all together.

I agree!

Thanks PrayforPrincess~ How are you feeling? Your attempts are all done, right. Happy for you. I'm right behine you! Starting tomorrow :) yay! Are you changing the diet any in the 2 WW? I will def still skip breakfast, and no snacks, but maybe more calories. (i've been at 1200 and now even less 1000 or under).

[KraizyDaizy]

Day 27/12DPO and 6 BFN's!!! My temps are higher than they have ever been and my bbs are so sore! I just knew it has to be my month with my great progesterone level, but maybe not? I am just so over this ttc roller-coaster! Getting old sucks! My eggs probably have cobwebs on them LOL!!! Maybe I am sick and just don't know it and that would explain the temps? I am wondering if I really Oed when FF said I did? Confused and totally pissed LOL!

[littlemissnaughty7]

am i right in thinking 0+12 is it as soon as your cervix goes low and firm and your cm goes creamy, (im making sure ive got it to the nail)

[littlemissnaughty7]

KD im so sorry your getting BFNs hun im hoping your BFP is a shy one ,

[KraizyDaizy]

how many shy BFPs have you ladies seen? I mean really do I have a chance?

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ I really think you still have a chance!

LMN~ Its def when CM is creamy, and I believe at O its the acronym- SHOW Soft, high, open, wet. After O cervix is firm, low, closed and dry.

[littlemissnaughty7]

ive seen a few before hun my sister was a classice one she had 4 before it finally showed at 6 days last of her period !

[HopeandDreamG]

purplesky~ how is Dh doing??

[KraizyDaizy]

Really little? That give me hope! Thanks for sharing. I am sorry I am just emotional today. I have already ripped my DH's head off for really no good reason. I feel like a such a failure...

[littlemissnaughty7]

YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE KD SO GET THAT OUT OF YOUR MIND THIS INSTANCE,
its all down to getting the sperm at the right place at the right time, and no one not even scientists get that right, its all just a guess hun and all we can do is try our best, it will happen huni its just a point of when, dont feel down you did everything you could xx

[KraizyDaizy]

YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE KD SO GET THAT OUT OF YOUR MIND THIS INSTANCE,
its all down to getting the sperm at the right place at the right time, and no one not even scientists get that right, its all just a guess hun and all we can do is try our best, it will happen huni its just a point of when, dont feel down you did everything you could xx

little, thanks so much. I know you are right, but it just kills me that another month has come and almost gone again...

[littlemissnaughty7]

i will be saying the exact same in a few days hun and im only dtd once il be here till christmas at least lol, im praying your BFP is shy huni il keep everything crossed for you, and if its not just think of ways that you can up your chances next month maybe dtd twice on a few days aswel ?

[KraizyDaizy]

i will be saying the exact same in a few days hun and im only dtd once il be here till christmas at least lol, im praying your BFP is shy huni il keep everything crossed for you, and if its not just think of ways that you can up your chances next month maybe dtd twice on a few days aswel ?

Thanks so much little. I really needed you today...

Well, God forbid I get my AF, next month I will not DTD unitil +OPK and just keep going from then on. I think we started early and it really stressed my DH. He had so much trouble keeping up and it really made me sad, I mean we are both getting older, but when a man cannot DTD like we used to, its just not right to prolong the embarassment. I also think maybe it's time to have his swimmers checked. I will not use anything at all this next month. No JAD, no jellies, no nothing. I think I might stand on my head though LOL!