TTC Girl - February 2012

[prayforprincess]

Hi Ladies -
I thought I would start a new thread for February attempts since its just around the corner. I am expecting my af in one week and then its off we go...I am expecting to o sometime between the 19th and 21st. I am so excited! This will be our first month attempting, and I can't wait to get pregger's and get off this diet! I was all geared up to attempt in January and then had to have unexpected back surgery which put a damper on my baby making plans :(
So hopefully February brings us all much luck and many BFP's!!!

[xokatietatie]

I'm probably not going to do an attempt for February, but I'm sure I'll be on here all the time anyway. Good luck to all the February swayers.

[pinkin2011]

When are you going to attempt again Katie?
Sorry about af coming , I know what your going through

[HopeandDreamG]

I'm here too. Been waiting a long time for February. If AF comes on time in Feb. Attempt will be Feb 20, 21, and 22! Cannot wait. Had 1 time attempt in November and had to skip December and January because I got really sick.

We need to get this thread stickied!!

Lets go February :pinksperm: :pinksperm:

:cheerteam:

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi Ladies -
I thought I would start a new thread for February attempts since its just around the corner. I am expecting my af in one week and then its off we go...I am expecting to o sometime between the 19th and 21st. I am so excited! This will be our first month attempting, and I can't wait to get pregger's and get off this diet! I was all geared up to attempt in January and then had to have unexpected back surgery which put a damper on my baby making plans :(
So hopefully February brings us all much luck and many BFP's!!!

How did your surgery go? I remember I had replied to your thread. Glad to see your ready to go..me too

[xokatietatie]

When are you going to attempt again Katie?
Sorry about af coming , I know what your going through

We're talking about maybe trying in August. I don't want a baby born between December and February because I already have two January birthdays... so we won't try in the spring at all.

A girl I am friends with on Facebook just announced she's expecting, and I'm trying to be excited for her but all I felt was jealousy when I saw her BFP picture.

[prayforprincess]

How did your surgery go? I remember I had replied to your thread. Glad to see your ready to go..me too

It was on Monday an went well, thanks. I am still recovering and taking it really easy...in bed most of the time and have help for the kids during the day. I should definitely be geared up to go in 3 weeks for my attempt though.... and It looks like we're going to be o buddies! I just pray I get my bfp this month cause I can't take the diet. It's been 6 weeks and I am really dying here. It is absolutely nothing I have ever lived by before. My friends see me losing weight and joke that they want to do this diet too. I tell them "no you don't and if I wasn't desperate for a girl I wouldn't be using this as a weight loss method at all!". I love love love red meat, any meat and I usually never eat sugar and carb's...especially empty carb's b/c I am such a healthy nut. And I love avocados and miss them so much, for lunch I always have my chive cottage cheese and 1/2 avocado. No wonder I have 3 boys....

I was reading your attempt -- so you are doing 3 attempts?? It looks like o-2, o-1, & o? I have taken ovidrel for my ivf cycle and you definitely ovulate 36 hours after the shot. I was planning to do 2 attempts, one on +opk night and one on o night. We will abstain til 1st attempt night and then do compressed fr w/ 2 attempts the 2nd night using his 3rd &4th batch of the day 2 hours apart.

I was thinking of doing fr from af- attempts but it is so hard and I really do not want to dtd every night -- I am so tired from the kids. My dh is a pain and will not take care of himself so the pressure is on me to make sure it gets done.

[pinkin2011]

Trust me katie I would be jealous too.. I saw my cousin the other day with her baby girl and my cousins sister in law was there preg 3 weeks to go ( having a girl too ) I was sooooooo jealous i was so uncomfortable and hardly spoke all day Not just because i was jealous but was upset.. Anyway..

[KnockYourBallsOff]

I'm on board for this month :))))!!!

[rainbowflower]

Wow you're organised! No doubt we'll be ttc again in Feb too

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[HopeandDreamG]

It was on Monday an went well, thanks. I am still recovering and taking it really easy...in bed most of the time and have help for the kids during the day. I should definitely be geared up to go in 3 weeks for my attempt though.... and It looks like we're going to be o buddies! I just pray I get my bfp this month cause I can't take the diet. It's been 6 weeks and I am really dying here. It is absolutely nothing I have ever lived by before. My friends see me losing weight and joke that they want to do this diet too. I tell them "no you don't and if I wasn't desperate for a girl I wouldn't be using this as a weight loss method at all!". I love love love red meat, any meat and I usually never eat sugar and carb's...especially empty carb's b/c I am such a healthy nut. And I love avocados and miss them so much, for lunch I always have my chive cottage cheese and 1/2 avocado. No wonder I have 3 boys....

I was reading your attempt -- so you are doing 3 attempts?? It looks like o-2, o-1, & o? I have taken ovidrel for my ivf cycle and you definitely ovulate 36 hours after the shot. I was planning to do 2 attempts, one on +opk night and one on o night. We will abstain til 1st attempt night and then do compressed fr w/ 2 attempts the 2nd night using his 3rd &4th batch of the day 2 hours apart.

I was thinking of doing fr from af- attempts but it is so hard and I really do not want to dtd every night -- I am so tired from the kids. My dh is a pain and will not take care of himself so the pressure is on me to make sure it gets done.

Really glad your surgery went well. Awesome that we will be O buddies, hopefully getting BFP's too! Yay I can def go for a burger and fries. I will when I get my BFP! I never ate this many carbs, much more of a protein eater. I guess the fact that its so different will be helpful.
Your attempt sounds great. I will be doing frequent bc dh can take care of it himself in the am. I conceived a girl in April (oopsie, and unfortunately she ended up with chromosome issues) and Dh was basically taking care of himself each am, in addition to our own "activity"!, so I figure I will do the same. If Af shows when scheduled my doc apt. is Feb 20th for the Ovidrel injection. Nuthinbutpink said O should be 24-36 hrs later. For you it was 36 hrs. I will do a few attempts (after reading lots about this) I don't think with everything else we are doing the amount of sperm from multiple attempts will take away from the sway. So my plan was day before injection, day of, and day after. Maybe I should skip the day before (too far away) and do day of, 24hrs later, and 36 hrs later. What's your opinion based on your experience.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all im on board for feb too, il roughly be ovulating around the 23rd which is a new moon !!!! who hoo go girl swimmers :pinksperm:

il be on clomid for the next 3 cycles so hoping i get my BFP soooooooo bad before thats up, my DH will be abstaining for 2 weeks then a 1 time bed on O or 0+12, wont be taking antihistamines, but will be doing LE diet, TBM, aspirin, acidophilus, and maybe a little rephresh/replens depending on ph,

my ph since being on the diet has gone down from 7.5 to 4.5 so well happy about that, seems a few people on clomid in here come on girls lets all get our BFP'S in feb !!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss~ sounds like a good plan. I will also be on clomid for the first time this coming cycle. You will be O'ing same time as me and prayfor princess! Yay to new moon! Not that I even think that matters, but it can't hurt :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey H&D hun, yay go clomid girls lol, wow we will all be O buddies, i hope we all get our 1st BFP together, well just one would make my day lol,

[HopeandDreamG]

hey H&D hun, yay go clomid girls lol, wow we will all be O buddies, i hope we all get our 1st BFP together, well just one would make my day lol,

That would be amazing :pinksperm: :pray: for all of us!!

[suregena]

Do I go here now or there? Haha! I'm waiting to test from January!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ Both! and hopefully you don't have to be here long! When are you testing.

[suregena]

Tomorrow but I'll probably only be 10dpo or thereabouts, as I'm not sure when I actually ovulated!

[HopeandDreamG]

Ohhh yay! good luck.. will be checking on you tomorrow :)

[suregena]

It will probably be negative, as I think it's a bit early (only have internet cheapies) but we're having a date day and going to the movies... so, I figured might as well aim for tomorrow.

[jazzers]

Hi ladies! I'm new here, but have been following the January thread for awhile, and since we are attempting this month I thought I'd stop in and say hi!! I am actually going to be Oing in the next day or two, so I guess I am kinda right in between January and February. I've been doing the diet for 5 weeks, and cut out all meat a few months ago.

[rainbowflower]

Hi ladies! I'm new here, but have been following the January thread for awhile, and since we are attempting this month I thought I'd stop in and say hi!! I am actually going to be Oing in the next day or two, so I guess I am kinda right in between January and February. I've been doing the diet for 5 weeks, and cut out all meat a few months ago.

how exciting! welcome! :D

[xokatietatie]

AF is here... right on time. :sad:

[HopeandDreamG]

Katie~ Sorry hun :(

Jazzers~ Welcome! Good luck. let us know how it goes...

[Mochagirl]

suregena - I'm going to be stalking you!

katie - sorry about af :hugs:

[suregena]

suregena - I'm going to be stalking you!

katie - sorry about af :hugs:


Hahaha! With all these stalkers, I'll feel bad if I don't deliver tomorrow! :P

[PeonyPrincess]

Hi eveyone! I realised we have jumped over to Feb. Sounds like a good idea. I have been lying low with a cold, so haven't felt very sociable, but feeling better today. I am due to O around Feb 22nd or 23rd, though knowing my body, anything is possible. I still can't believe I O so early in January. Definitely no signs of being pg, so I don't think we caught the egg.

Hope, I seem to O the same day as my +OPK as well. It seems to be since I have been taking vitex. I liked it when I got a bit more prior-notice!

Pinkin and Katie- so sorry AF showed. Everything was sounding so darn positive for both of you. I'll be looking forward to seeing your BFPs in the future. You both have youth on your side which is a great benefit.

Jazzers- hi. Good to see you here. GL with your upcoming attempt!

PFP, you are sounding really good considering you have just had surgery. Ouch.

Suregena, FX for you!

[HopeandDreamG]

So its looking like me, prayforprincess, littlemiss, peonypricess, & outoftheblue will be O'ing around the same few days in Feb!!! Anyone else for President's week (week of Feb 20th)??

[pinkin2011]

Thanks Peony, I will be following all of you girls this month! I wont be far behind !!

[HopeandDreamG]

Peony~ now that you say that about the vitex, thats EXACTLY what happened to me. Ha, Just realized that since I started vitex O is same day as +opk, and before O was 2 days after positive digital! I didn't make the connection before, but thats the only thing that changed along with the timing of O and OPK's...

[KnockYourBallsOff]

I'm not sure exactly when I'm going to O as SP kinda changed my cycles up. I'm going to get some clear blue smiley ov testers tomorrow. I'm on CD 7 today.....I'd say anywhere b/t cycle day 14 and 20 could be o day for me. So maybe a v day baby :))))?

[jazzers]

Just a quick question, but can you miss your LH surge overnight?? I had been getting darker OPK's, the darkest last night but still not as dark as the control line, and that usually means for me a positive is within a day or so (I have always Oed on CD13-14). Well, last night it was slightly dark, and this morning it was about the same darkness as last night, but then this afternoon (which I assumed would be a positive by this evening) the line is gone completely!! So, did my surge happen overnight while I was sleeping and not testing? I have been having a few O pains today, but I thought that was just my body gearing up..... Never had this happen before. I always get a +OPK during the day! Hmmmmm.....??

[purple sky]

I'm sooo happy Feb. is right around the corner! I'm in this month too :) I should be O on the new moon but who knows.

[PeonyPrincess]

I'm not 100% sure jazzers. Could the sample have been more diluted so it didn't show? I have found OPKs confusing at times as well, so now that I am determined to get pg, I have switched to the clear blue digital OPK. Good idea to be looking at your other symptoms though...pains, EWCM, etc.

[PeonyPrincess]

Hi purple sky! Good to see you again. Roll on February hey!

[PeonyPrincess]

Peony~ now that you say that about the vitex, thats EXACTLY what happened to me. Ha, Just realized that since I started vitex O is same day as +opk, and before O was 2 days after positive digital! I didn't make the connection before, but thats the only thing that changed along with the timing of O and OPK's...

Yes, I used to always O 30 hours after a +OPK, but since taking vitex it keeps landing on the same day as the +OPK. And my O day was always CD14 or 15 and now it is anywhere from CD12-17. I just hope now I have realised that is what is happening, I can be a bit better prepared. I will have to chain my DH to the bed in Feb so he is not away when I need him!!

[jazzers]

I'm not 100% sure jazzers. Could the sample have been more diluted so it didn't show? I have found OPKs confusing at times as well, so now that I am determined to get pg, I have switched to the clear blue digital OPK. Good idea to be looking at your other symptoms though...pains, EWCM, etc.

Thanks Peony! I think I'm going to just assume that I missed the +OPK, and we will just keep BDing for the next few days (and I'll keep checking OPKs another few days too just to be sure). Poor DH is getting worn out though! I haven't had much EWCM this month at all - but I think that is due to diet changes. I never had any until I started taking EPO and eating goood fats etc when trying to conceive our oldest. Now I wish I were more diligent with temping this time around! Oh well. :)

[PeonyPrincess]

Jazzers, I barely have any EWCM while on the girl diet either. And no libido compared to when I conceived my boys. Makes me wonder if all the mums with girls are missing out! GL with your attempts. I am a temping addict I must admit.

[jazzers]

Jazzers, I barely have any EWCM while on the girl diet either. And no libido compared to when I conceived my boys. Makes me wonder if all the mums with girls are missing out! GL with your attempts. I am a temping addict I must admit.

LOL - that's too funny! But I think they must be! I LOVED eating high calorie, high fat, high sodium foods. This diet is just so bland and restrictive ;) Hehehe. I know the temping addict well....I think my addiction got lost somewhere in the 15 months between my first and second's birth, lol! Now, I have the thermometer beside my bed like I always did, but I just forget each morning (as I'm lying in bed, in denial that the boys are awake, and I need to get up to deal with them....!!)

[jazzers]

By the way, does anyone else go off the diet in the 2WW? I'm seriously needing a good cheat day or two, and will definitely hold off until at least 5-7DPO, but am wondering if it REALLY makes that big a difference for a day or two? My cravings and hunger are starting to overwhelm me ;)

[jazzers]

Peony - it looks like you have 2 little boys very close in age too! Mine were 15.5 months apart, and are little balls of energy!! ;)

[PeonyPrincess]

Mine are 22.5 months apart. I thought that was a handful! The most competitive children you can have is 2 boys who are less than 2 years apart. Mine certainly live up to that.

And about the 2WW, I always stopped the diet in the 2WW last year as I was not TTC every month. I have not stopped it this time as I am TTC in Jan and Feb. However, my diet is not as full on as the LE diet, so it is easier to stick to. My naturopath told me it was fine to only be on the diet for 2 weeks leading up to your attempt, as if the diet is really different to what you normally do, it will work that fast on your body. You should just always do what you can live with and have no regrets about later on.

[Mochagirl]

Mine are 22.5 months apart. I thought that was a handful! The most competitive children you can have is 2 boys who are less than 2 years apart. Mine certainly live up to that.

Yep - I have to agree with that! I have identical twin boys who've been fighting since they were in the womb!

It's fine to give yourself some cheat days on the diet, but make sure to try your best to maintain low blood sugar in the 2WW since that's when it's most important - so that means no snacking between meals. What I always did is give myself a big cheat day the day af arrived - it helped lessen the blow somehow, especially as I'd just spend 2 weeks dreaming of all the things I could eat when I got my BFP.

[amari]

:wave: Hi, ladies! Well, I am skipping Feb because of the whole thing that happened with the clomid but I will still be hanging out with you all cheering you along and the trying again I hope in March!

Sorry, Katie, about AF. Pink, did you get yours too? I feel mine coming on soon.

Who here is doing vitex and/or saw pamento? How about of the clomid users? I know you can't use it the same months but I think you can use it up until the af before. I need to go read more about them...

[rainbowflower]

Amari - understand you wanting to wait.. I'm taking vitex

[PeonyPrincess]

Hi Amari. I hope your poor tummy has settled. That did not sound like fun at all. I take vitex but none of the other stuff so am not much help with the dos and don'ts. Take care of that tiny body of yours!

[Out of the Blue]

Hi guys...I'm joining this thread now. I haven't read through it yet to see who all is here but chances are that I know many of you.

I should be Oing around Feb 23rd(ish) so it'll be the same time as many of you it looks like! I'm still waiting on AF to show up but w/3 days-worth of BFNs and today's temp drop, I'm definitely out. Katie, Pinkin and Amari, I sooooo feel your frustration and disappointment...:HH:

:wave: to the rest of you!

[xokatietatie]

Looks like there's a lot of late February attempts. I'll be following all of you to see how they go. Hopefully lots of BFPs. :)

Pink, it doesn't matter when you attempt, I'm going to stalk you like it's my job. haha

Jazzers, did you figure out if you O'd? Did you have an attempt?

Amari, have you tested again or is AF here?

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all ive got some serious cramps today 3-4 dpo but it cant be anything as we didnt attempt lol, so i dont know whats going on !!! cant wait for my first attempt in feb, im soooooooooo excited !!!!

[prayforprincess]

Oh my, you ladies are so chatty it is hard to keep up, but I will try.

Jazzers: Welcome! Yes it is possible to miss your surge over night, but if you checked the night before and the morning after you would have noticed some changes. You should definitely switch to Clear Blue smiley face -- they check for the increase in your lh so as long as you are testing at least once a day it is nearly impossible to miss your surge. It will detect elevation from the following day, where as with the lines its ify and you never really know.

Katie- So sorry for your bfn. Much luck in the future.

LittleMiss- You're attempt sounds great! That is my ideal attempt -- abstain and one time bd on o day. The only problem is that the diet is killing me and I wanna get pg this month so bad, so I feel like I can't just leave it up to one attempt and hope for the best. Good luck to you!

Peony- Your post was funny - I never have had much of a libido at all and I have all boys...go figure. In my experience I am not sure that libido has much to do with it. Never had a Big O with any of my boys. ???

Hope&Dream - I would do all 4 attempts: day before, day of, 24 hours after and 36 hours after. If you only want to do 3 attempts then I would stick to the 24 hours after because then you will know you definitely caught the egg. I was doing IVF so they always scheduled my retrieval for exactly 36 hours after I gave myself the shot. My sis-in-law just did IUI and she o'ed exactly 36 hours after the shot as well (it was monitored by ultrasound).

I went out to dinner last night with my dh for our anniversary. Cheated a little but not much. I have been on this diet so strict w/ no cheats for 6 weeks, and it is 3 1/2 weeks before my attempt so I figured if I was going to treat myself now is the time to do it before I get my af. I had a vegetarian veggie soup and a vegetarian entree w/ eggplant, pumpkin, spinach & rice....oh, and a glass of red wine! So at least no meat but probably more sodium and calories than I should have for the day, though not much.
I have decided to change my plan for the month. I was reading so many people's attempts - boys and girls - and noticed that there is no pattern at all. Boy moms dtd once or many times on different days; and girl moms dtd once, or many times on all different day. I don't think how much or when you do it matters at all. I think it is really all up to diet and the maternal condition at the time of conception that will determine whether your body will allow female or males to penetrate the egg. If your like many in the middle and just fine then its 50/50, if your more nutrient nurished then you'll sway more boys and more nutrient deprived will sway more girl.
So, I had a talk with dh last night and told him that we are changing from abstaining to fr b/c we need to do multiple attempts to ensure getting pg and he needs to help me out cause I am not doing it all on my own. He is not one to take care of himself. We will bd on o-3, o-2, o-1 & o using his 2nd batch of the day after having him fr for 10 days before 1st attempt. He will release 1xday up to 3 days before attempts and then start 2x day for 3 days before and through attempts. I'll use rephresh every 3 days and a touch every am on morning when I am not due for a full app. Bd with sylk each time.
Do you think I should jump and dump on o-1 and o day? Maybe just wait 5 minutes?? Do you guys think this sway girl good? I feel like I am doing the diet so strict and even doing a mini fast o week -- I have to get a girl. My original plan was the bd once, so this is a big change for me mentally.
Anyway, sorry for such a long post, I just wanted to bounce my new plan off you girls and get some feedback.

[auroara78]

:Hugs: to all the BFNers

Hope this Feb cycle is much better!

Rainbow & Surgena, MG & I are counting on you to join us in the Sept/Oct/Nov due date buddies group with Oct. bundles!!

Hope lots more of ya'll join us in the Nov portion of the group!!!!

[amari]

I haven't gotten af yet, still waiting.

Pforprincess- sounds good, I wonder if you should do quite so much to reduce sperm though w/ so much releasing, rephresh, sylk j&d if you want to get pg fast? Maybe cut back on some of it?

[purple sky]

Did I miss something? Surgena got a bfp? Let me go look...

[pinkin2011]

Hi Girls, Sorry to everyone who got af or is waiting for af ..The worst is waiting when you know its def coming my cycle was 35 days this time it is usually 31, I have a feeling this will happen every time i attempt because i get myself so stressed ( i know its not a good thing) But next time around i am going to have to try and release d/h a few times before dtd.. How bad does that sound??

[PeonyPrincess]

OOTB, sorry you got a BFN. This girl swaying is hard work. I had such a good feeling about 2012. I guess there are plenty of months remaining though.

Prayforprincess, I like your thinking about timing not being important. However, what you are planning sounds very similar to what pinkin tried in January. I wonder if the FR and the rephresh and the J&D together are all too much to end up pg?? I am not sure of your age, but she is only in her 20s and got pg easily with DS1, so it made me wonder if it was too much for the sperms to deal with.

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari~ You can take the vitex and saw palmetto straight through starting now until CD1 of March. You can't take at the same time as clomid. I've been on since Mid December CD 1 of February I will stop and my clomid begins! Hope your feeling better.

Suregena~ came to see about your testing? How'd it go?

OOTB~ sorry about BFN, you are among a few of us who will all O the week of Feb 20th!

Prayforprincess~ you had the same thought process as I did. I also was set at first on a one time attempt, and timing. I have totally changed that plan, to mutilple attempts. I agree I will do 4 attempts: day before, day of, and 2 days after the injection. I'd like to hear about your experience with IVF, I was starting to give it some thought.

Jazzers~ I would also use the clearblue digitals (with the smiley) it will pick up an increase you can't miss it overnight that way.

[HopeandDreamG]

Yes, I used to always O 30 hours after a +OPK, but since taking vitex it keeps landing on the same day as the +OPK. And my O day was always CD14 or 15 and now it is anywhere from CD12-17. I just hope now I have realised that is what is happening, I can be a bit better prepared. I will have to chain my DH to the bed in Feb so he is not away when I need him!!

Again, pretty much SAME experience!

[suregena]

:Hugs: to all the BFNers

Hope this Feb cycle is much better!

Rainbow & Surgena, MG & I are counting on you to join us in the Sept/Oct/Nov due date buddies group with Oct. bundles!!

Hope lots more of ya'll join us in the Nov portion of the group!!!!



Believe me, I want to join you there! Because if I don't get pregnant (if I'm not currently) by February, I'll have to take a break for a bit! :(

(Because we're flying to the US for Christmas this year... I either have to have had a baby older than 6 weeks by the time we do, or I have to be under 36 weeks pregnant. Timing is everything, eh?)

[suregena]

Oh, it was BFN this morning, but I expected that!

I could only be 9dpo or 10dpo at the latest today.

But we were having a date day so I went ahead and aimed for today as the test day. My husband doesn't want me to test anymore until my AF is due... but... how... do... I.... NOT?!?!?

[pinkin2011]

Prayforprincess, I am not sure if I would use that much Rephresh myself because I must admit last year I had a play around with it a few times and didnt fall preg.. In january I had my real attempt I used it the day before first attempt and then used it again 12 hrs before second. I dont think I would even use a finger full of it before my attempts next time. I will just aim to try and make it my last full app 2 days before o.. I plan to dtd on o day this time. If you use the rephresh right through then i think maybe dont do a Jump and dump ( or wait 5 mins or so) but if you dont use it for every Bd the def jump and dump.. Its just so hard to fall preg as it is I am really down at the moment alot due to i didnt get preg and that i have to do it all again! I hope rainbowflower reads this and chimes in about what she thinks to do with the Rephresh?

[PeonyPrincess]

Pinkin, I am not surprised knowing you have to do it again is making you feel down. You and DH did so much in December and January. But it sounds like you are already making a few adjustments so that your sway will be even better. And March seems like a long way away, but with your busy February, it will be here before you know it.

[pinkin2011]

Thanks Peony, I think as I said under stress makes you do things that you were not going to do.. Anyway in march I am going to take it easy and try and relax about it and try not to miss that EGG!!! Oh and keep the little wigglies alive!!:pinksperm: I only have one child so we dont have much time to muck around.. D/s is nearly 3 and a half and keeps asking for a baby!! I dont want them to grow up with too much of an age gap that they dont play together I am not even sure if they would play together with a 4 or over gap anyway!! thats what gets me down why have i left it so long to ttc , Now its just a rush If you get what i mean

[PeonyPrincess]

A long time ago I read that if there is a 6 year age gap the children can feel like an only child. I don't know how true that is, but I am sure you have not left it too long. It is a great sign that your boy is excited at the prospect of a sibling. My DS1 can't remember a time when it was just him, so it has taken him a very long time to think having another one would be a good idea. My DS2 is baby obsessed and asks me when he will be able to have a baby in his tummy?!

[pinkin2011]

Aww how cute is he! Yeah i know what you mean about the 6 year gap thing . A lady I know had 6years between the first and second and then 2 years between second and third , she said the oldest boy never has and still doesnt have much to do with the last two which i think is sad. I Really need to get preg asap i dont want more then a 4.5 yr gap but you cant control these things hey, If only!

[jazzers]

Surgena - fingers crossed for that BFP!! I don't know how you could possibly hold off...I have terrible POAS syndrome myself :)

Peony - that is too funny! My son's friend (he's 3) at daycare came up to his mom and I and said "Mommy, when can *I* have a baby in my tummy?". Of course his mom said "oh sweetie, boys can't have babies in their tummies". The little guy turns around all mad and says "Mommy, that is NOT very nice to say I can't have a baby in my tummy. That hurts my feelings". LOL!! Kids are too cute!

Ok, I totally fell off the wagon this evening! I went for a run this morning, followed by a long walk with a friend, and hadn't eaten much all day until the hunger just hit around 4pm!! I was out working, and we still had nothing for dinner, and that little gremlin in my head kept saying "well, you probably O'd yesterday, so if the sperm met the egg, it's all said and done anyways so what does it really matter....". LOL! So I went out and bought a huge pizza for dinner and ate 1/3 of it myself!!! The funnier part is, I totally had dreams about what I would do when I could finally let loose again, and all the things I would eat and enjoy....but the reality is, ALL I could eat were the 3 big slices of pizza, and then I was SO stuffed, I had to go to bed and lay down! A couple months ago, I could have eaten that whole pizza by myself, plus chocolate cake for dessert and a bowl of popcorn while watching a movie later that night! UGH! Ahahahahaa, so sad!! Back on the wagon tomorrow....

[laughinglynxie]

I only have one child so we dont have much time to muck around.. D/s is nearly 3 and a half and keeps asking for a baby!! I dont want them to grow up with too much of an age gap that they dont play together I am not even sure if they would play together with a 4 or over gap anyway!! thats what gets me down why have i left it so long to ttc , Now its just a rush If you get what i mean

Don't get too stressed out over it (though I can understand the feeling of wanting control over it, my son is 2). There is a 5 year difference between me and my younger brother, but we have always been really close and played together quite well. It might be different for an older brother/younger sister combo? It was a little odd at 16 and 11...but that age always is! :D

[pinkin2011]

If I get Preg in march or april bub will be due dec or jan.. D/s is 4 september 30th so that age gap is alot but not too bad i dont want anymore then that.. I am thinking if i dont get a bfp by april I am just going to dtd all over o, start middle and end to maybe up my chances.. Yeah its very stressful, Life just got so busy and before i knew it d/s was 3!! I bet you can all understand that!

[PeonyPrincess]

I can totally understand life getting busy. The only reason we have 2 children fairly close together is because DS2 was a complete surprise. DH and I literally looked at each other when I found out and said "Did we even BD together?!" Fortunately DS2 looks just like DH. lol. It must have happened when we hosted a great Easter party, but neither of us can recall!! If that hadn't happened I am 100% certain I would be in the same boat as you.

[pinkin2011]

Yeah its pressure on me because d/h has been saying for a year lets ttc and i have been putting it off sort of but for no real reason just so busy. Now its a rush i guess i have 2 more months to sway TBH if i dont get preg in those 2 months the swaying has to stop , my d/h doesnt believe in swaying and i am doing it sort of without him knowing.. Naughty me. My attempt in Jan though he knew about and released everyday for 21 days he did so well but just cant do that every month couldnt even do it for 10 days .... He just wants another child so bad and also he is not happy that we have left it so long he feels the pressure too.

[suregena]

Couldn't help myself! Another BFN this morning. However it still could be early. I should have O'd the 18th but don't think I did, so AF tomorrow seems unlikely. It could really be anytime this week... who knows! I've had steady daily cramping throughout this 2ww however I'm going to run on the assumption to keep expecting AF for now. If I am not pregnant this cycle, it will be the first time I wasn't pregnant first month trying which could be viewed in a positive way that I've changed up some things in both our fertility. As odd as that is but what you want for ttc a girl! Still, would be nice if I was but if not, hope I can be next month and will also give me a chance to be really good and solid on the diet as with birthdays, guests, and holidays, it was a tough one that I definitely fell off the wagon many times during!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ Sorry about the BFN... I had a BFN in November and it was the first time every. DS1 first attempt, DS2 oopsie, angle baby- surprise!! So I know how you feel I was pretty confident it would happen first shot- but on the upside maybe what we are doing is working!!

My 2 boys are 16 months apart-never would have planned it that way, but it is the BEST thing ever. I often think this next baby would be better off a girl (not only bc I am dying for a girl) but bc if it was a boy he'd feel left out of their relationship. A girl would be special in her own way. However, I also have seen sibs 12 years apart with the greatest relationships. I think its all about the dynamic of the relationship/their personalities etc. not their ages!

:cheerteam: AND lets go FEBRUARY!!!!!

[auroara78]

I believe if I had used Rephresh for my Dec. cycle that I wouldn't have gotten pregnant.

I know there are many swayers who have used Rephresh and did get pregnant, but I felt like for *me* it was akin to birth control! I just don't think my husband's swimmers could have navigated through it. Plus, I'm not old by any means, but I'll be 34 in April, and I knew my own fertility was just not at the peak like it used to be, so that was a consideration for me too.

I still think swaying pink is so hard because of the impact to your fertility you do want to make, but too much won't get you preggers. I still really believe even if my husband and I DID want to keep DTD'ing until we got a BFP (we were previously going to take a break until April), that if I had kept using Rephresh it might have taken UNTIL April or later to concieve.

So it's a real deeply personal choice and decision how much to put into the sway vs. wanting to get pregnant in a certain time-table. For me, getting pregnant in a certain time-table trumped wanting a "perfect sway."

[Mochagirl]

So it's a real deeply personal choice and decision how much to put into the sway vs. wanting to get pregnant in a certain time-table. For me, getting pregnant in a certain time-table trumped wanting a "perfect sway."

I couldn't have said it better myself, auroara. I decided to drop parts of the sway too since last summer it took me 4 months to get pregnant, and I only got that BFP after I dropped the rephresh. I wasn't willing to wait 4 months or longer this time. Some women are super fertile and can get pregnant on the first try with a full sway (like our beloved zanacal), but I think women like that are few and far between.

[suregena]

If I am indeed not pregnant, I think I'll stick with the antihistamine and drop the repHresh. We'll see.

[Out of the Blue]

I am definitely dropping RepHresh in Feb. The Sylk will stay (b/c I need it down there now...TMI :oops: ) No more FR for DH either! This will be our 3rd attempt TTC so I really want to get knocked up this round....Failure is not an option, lol!

Right now, I'm still waiting on AF. Wish it would get here soon b/c I'm ready to start this next cycle!


Mine are 22.5 months apart. I thought that was a handful! The most competitive children you can have is 2 boys who are less than 2 years apart. Mine certainly live up to that.


My boys are the same spacing too! They're best buddies and worst enemies! Usually best buddies, though!

Amari, any sign of AF? I’m still waiting too :(



OOTB~ sorry about BFN, you are among a few of us who will all O the week of Feb 20th!


We'll all be in good company! That'll be fun to watch all the BFPs roll in after our attempts! :luck:

Lynxie…when will you POAS? Soon, right!?! YAY!

Surgena…sending you BFP vibes! Still early so don’t get discouraged! :HH:

:wave: to everyone else!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey ladies how are we all, im ok i swear my bodys trying to tell me in pregnant, huge temp rise this morning and cramps all day yesterday but cant be we didnt even try this month as we have only been on diet for 3 weeks, oh an just wanted to say i have 3 sisters and there is 9 years between me (the youngest) and my eldest sister and we get on like a house on fire we just love each others company,


just a Q if your ph is 4.5 - 5 anyway do you need to use replens/rephresh ?

[suregena]

I hope so, OOTB. :(

[Out of the Blue]

LMN7...I'm so excited for you to start testing!

Regarding Replens/RepHresh, you may want to choose RepHresh (over Replens) b/c it keeps pH low even when sperm come on the scene (since semen raises the overall pH inside). Replens doesn't keep working for that long & probably won't be as beneficial to you as your pH is already low. If you find you're not getting preg though, you may want to drop RepHresh all together, especially w/your naturally low pH. Hope this makes sense...I feel like I've not worded this well...

[littlemissnaughty7]

OOTB hun i wont be testing this month as we didnt dtd this time, was just saying i think my body is playing tricks on me this month i think it knows i want to be pregnant with my girl sooooooooooooooo much its getting me thinking all sorts lol,


thanks for the advice on rephresh its weird as before the diet my ph was 7.5 !!! and now is 4.5 and went to 4.75 just before ovulation (thats if i worked out when O actually was) its just il be on clomid next month for my first attempt and i dont want to be on it for long as i used it 3 times in the past with 2 pregnancies, worked a charm for me before, but didnt know if your supposed to use rephresh if you have a low ph to begin with if you know what i mean,

[auroara78]

Littlemiss, with you being on Clomid, I wouldn't use Rephresh or replens, if anything I'd maybe use Sylk since that's a lube that's good for TTC pink.

There is a 7 year age gap between my brother and me and we were very close growing up. I used to wish I had another sibling closer in age, but I was the "last chance" baby so they decided to get pregnant one last time after before deciding that 3 was enough. My two sisters are 12 and 10 years older though, and I'm not very close to them, although they are nice, etc. I just felt like I could never relate to what they went through. Now that I have young children, they have young teenagers, so the age gap continues, but now for the cousins. My two sons are the youngest of the whole brood; my 2nd sister's last baby, Teddy, is going to be 6 in April; at family get-togethers, Teddy and my oldest, Quinten, do play together well.

My brother's step son Justin is 14 and he's really good at humoring my oldest too; he lets my oldest pound on him with a nerf sword/gun. It's so cute! My oldest really thinks he's "getting it" but it's only because he lets him.

[Out of the Blue]

OOTB hun i wont be testing this month as we didnt dtd this time, was just saying i think my body is playing tricks on me this month i think it knows i want to be pregnant with my girl sooooooooooooooo much its getting me thinking all sorts lol,


thanks for the advice on rephresh its weird as before the diet my ph was 7.5 !!! and now is 4.5 and went to 4.75 just before ovulation (thats if i worked out when O actually was) its just il be on clomid next month for my first attempt and i dont want to be on it for long as i used it 3 times in the past with 2 pregnancies, worked a charm for me before, but didnt know if your supposed to use rephresh if you have a low ph to begin with if you know what i mean,

YIKES...Auroara is right...No RepHresh/Replens on Clomid...Just try to get preg ASAP and don't mess around w/that stuff at all! The diet is powerful and probably doing enough swaying for you!

LOL...totally thought you were sprouting a little bean in there! NEXT MONTH!

[littlemissnaughty7]

lol OOTB hun you make me laugh, i wish i was and a pink one two lol, yeah thinking i may drop the rephresh too just what is its purpose if you have a low ph anyway does it do anything else ?

[Out of the Blue]

LMN7, here's the deal...While taking Clomid you never want to take Replens/RepHresh regardless of your pH. If I were you, I wouldn't even give it a 2nd thought and I know Atomic has said the same thing in the past.

If you weren't taking Clomid and your pH was still so low, you could still entertain taking RepHresh as semen raises your pH in there (your pH of 4.5ish will go up when he ejaculates) and the RepHresh would just bring it back down. Having said that, it takes some women a very long time to conceive while doing the diet + RepHresh + other swaying tactics.

[rainbowflower]

I am definitely dropping RepHresh in Feb. The Sylk will stay (b/c I need it down there now...TMI :oops: ) No more FR for DH either! This will be our 3rd attempt TTC so I really want to get knocked up this round....Failure is not an option, lol!

Right now, I'm still waiting on AF. Wish it would get here soon b/c I'm ready to start this next cycle!


3rd time lucky!! this was our 3rd TTC cycle

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok hun im doing TBM too to add lime to my hubbys semen will drop this though if not pregnant in first month,

[littlemissnaughty7]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh RF are you pregnant hun !!!!

[rainbowflower]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh RF are you pregnant hun !!!!

yes!! :D

[littlemissnaughty7]

yay well done huni, can you please tell me your sway in a nutshell please this month, eeeeeek im so happy for u xxxx

[prayforprincess]

lol OOTB hun you make me laugh, i wish i was and a pink one two lol, yeah thinking i may drop the rephresh too just what is its purpose if you have a low ph anyway does it do anything else ?

my ph is low too -- in the 4's because of the diet, but it raises to 7 when i dtd and his sperm is in there. with rephresh, it makes sure your ph is always low and at 4.5 even with the sperm up there

[prayforprincess]

OMG Rainbow that is soooo exciting!!! Congrats!!! You and dh must be thrilled! Yes please, do tell us your sway in a nutshell.

Oh my ladies, all this talk about rephresh is scaring me. I have always gotten pg 1st month trying with my boys but I was 22, 23 & 25 then......now I am 29 and my dh is 36 (almost 37) and I am a little worried it might not be as easy anymore. Eeek! Thank you for all your thoughts and info/experiences with rephresh. This will be my 1st month attempting with it. I was thinking of using it every 3 days as recommended and on the days we are attempting, using a tiny fingertip in the am (we will do our attempts 15 hours later in the pm) on the days in between the full app's. Maybe I should not use it the morning after the full app, but only tiny bit in the morning 2 days after the full app??? Maybe just stick to full app. every 3 days and no touch up?? I will only use a dab of sylk, not much at all. Tiny tiny little bit. Or should I drop the Sylk? And now you have convinced me, with all that I am dropping the j&d completely. Gonna lay there for 30 minutes after each attempt.

Hope&Dream -- I would gladly share my ivf experience with you. My opinion, stick to swaying -- its a lot of money and no guarantee's. Swaying is no guarantee's either but at least you are getting pg in the end and you are not throwing away ten's of thousands of dollars. If you only want another baby if it is a girl, maybe yes than try IVF - cause you will either not get pg, or get pg with a girl. With swaying you will end up pg, but it might be a girl or a boy. Most all pdg women who do ivf need at least 2-3 cycles to have success...and that's if they even achieve it at that point. So if you are gonna do it, be prepared to want to spend at least $40k if you really want to give it your best of best shots. You might get lucky, or you might be me. Message me.

[rainbowflower]

pray for princess - I'd just use it every 3 days and not bother with the little bits before each attempt! I don't know about the sylk, I didn't use any.


my sway is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/8098-does-mean-i-can-have-breakfast-again.html#post137789

[amari]

Congrats, rainbow! So excited for you!!!

ootb-Still waiting on AF too. I am cycle day 31 today I think. I wish it would start, I wonder if I never even o'd? When should yours come? I'm also trying to decide whether to start vitex and/or sp or not. so many decisions!

[littlemissnaughty7]

when did you get you +opk amari hun ??

[amari]

littlemiss-I got +opk on Sunday evening, Jan 15th. I'm feeling a little crampy, so maybe it is on its way!

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari~ I may have asked you this, but do you temp? This would help you see if you O'd or not.

Prayforprincess~ thats been my reservation spending countless amounts of money and not ending up with a pregnancy at all. Looking at your signature, I cannot even imagine the emotional ups and downs you went through with the whole process. I will PM u soon to talk :)

Feb's almost here (I know I'm a broken record, sorry) but I've been waiting since November to be able to even attempt again!!!! Almost there....

[jazzers]

Congrats Rainbowflower!!!!! That is such awesome news!

[dannikins]

first day of feb, and 10 pages already......lol... i have to catch up....

[rainbowflower]

thank you!! hope we get more BFPs in here soon (perhaps we have some shy ones!)

[dannikins]

huge congrats rainbow, 3rd time was lucky!!!

stickydust, and fingers crossed for H&H 9 months...:)

[dannikins]

Re boys age differences.....

i have and 8 year old, a 5 year old, a 3 year old and a 17 month old.

there are 22 months between the youngest 2, and they get along really well.
there will also be a 22 month gap again with the youngest and this one.

my eldest however dosent really have anything whatsoever to do with the youngest.
but in saying that, my 5 year old, loves the youngest to bits and plays with him really well.

i know age gaps can be negative sometimes, but i think alot of it has to do with the individual personalities of the children.
my 5 year old is a real 'mother hen' type of person, he just loves babies and little cute things, which i guess is why he gets along with the younger ones so well.
my eldest is not like that at all, he prefers his own space, and would rather play video games by himself that go and play chasings with his brothers.

my younger brother is another good example.
sorry if this gets confusing.....lol

there are 6 of us, me, bro 1, bro 2, bro 3, sis 1, sis 2,
15 years difference between me and the youngest.
most of us were born really close together, but he had big age gaps either side.

now the brother im refering to is bro 2,

he was a middle child, 5 years between him and bro 2 and 5 years between him and bro 3.

there was 7 and 8 years between him and the youngest 2.
but he got along with them really well. played with them, hung out with them.
and even now, hes 23, and my boys love him to bits, hes great with them.
and he is their fave uncle because he plays with them, and watches movies with them, and brings them treats and stuff.

hes just one of those types of people.

so i guess what im saying is, try not to worry to much about age gaps, because i really do believe the person them self has more to do with it than age does....

[amari]

Amari~ I may have asked you this, but do you temp? This would help you see if you O'd or not.

Feb's almost here (I know I'm a broken record, sorry) but I've been waiting since November to be able to even attempt again!!!! Almost there....

I don't. I tried in the past but it just didn't work out for me. It was too stressful.

So excited for your time to be coming up soon!!! 20 days!!

[KnockYourBallsOff]

AWESOME news Rainbow!!!! congrats!!!!!

I'm temping and really wondering when I'm going to o w/ SP and diet.

Speaking of diet...I'm getting worried b/c I'm losing weight so quickly. Anyone else going through this? I ate some beans and cheese and corn tortillas for dinner tonight just to give myself the extra umph.

DH says I look way too thin, my BFF too :( I think so also. Any tips on how you ladies are maintaining? Should I just add in more fat and protein? I'm the lowest weight EVERRR....let alone when TTC. Any tips?

[jazzers]

AWESOME news Rainbow!!!! congrats!!!!!

I'm temping and really wondering when I'm going to o w/ SP and diet.

Speaking of diet...I'm getting worried b/c I'm losing weight so quickly. Anyone else going through this? I ate some beans and cheese and corn tortillas for dinner tonight just to give myself the extra umph.

DH says I look way too thin, my BFF too :( I think so also. Any tips on how you ladies are maintaining? Should I just add in more fat and protein? I'm the lowest weight EVERRR....let alone when TTC. Any tips?

I don't know that I have an answer for you, but I am in the same position. I've lost way more weight than I could hVe imagined, and am at a lower weight than my lowest weight as a teenager! Too thin. Personally, I've decided to drop the caloric aspect of the diet for the 2WW - ie, I'll eat any amount of whatever I'd like, except still not going to eat any meat. But instead of 1500-1800 calories, I'm letting myself eat to my hunger.

[amari]

Knockyourballsoff and Jazzers-Yes, I went through this too! My weight wasn't high to begin with and I was losing way too much. I had to start to add whole milk yogurt and muffins and cake etc. to stop from losing too much. I also increased portion sizes and seemed to be eating a lot more than most of the swayers on here. I also had to incorporate a lot more dairy just so I could include some non-meat fat. I ended up eating a bunch in the 2ww to try and gain more weight b/c my dh was unwilling to continue if I didn't gain weight. GL!!

[amari]

Can't make a decision-should I start Vitex? Should I start Vitex and SP? I am leaning towards just doing the Vitex and Pep Tea for the month I have off from TTC b/c the SP scares me a little, but I don't know, then I wonder if my T levels will be high? The only reason I am thinking of doing either of them is to sway. Anyone here just doing vitex?

[jazzers]

Does anyone else find that they count and re-count days in the 2WW? I swear I've counted my DPO at least 4 times this evening, wondering when the earliest I could test is... LOL! Oh I forgot how slowly time can go when you're TTC!!

[rainbowflower]

Can't make a decision-should I start Vitex? Should I start Vitex and SP? I am leaning towards just doing the Vitex and Pep Tea for the month I have off from TTC b/c the SP scares me a little, but I don't know, then I wonder if my T levels will be high? The only reason I am thinking of doing either of them is to sway. Anyone here just doing vitex?

my gut feeling is that if you're going to do clomid again next month I'd give the vitex a miss this cycle!

[rainbowflower]

I don't know that I have an answer for you, but I am in the same position. I've lost way more weight than I could hVe imagined, and am at a lower weight than my lowest weight as a teenager! Too thin. Personally, I've decided to drop the caloric aspect of the diet for the 2WW - ie, I'll eat any amount of whatever I'd like, except still not going to eat any meat. But instead of 1500-1800 calories, I'm letting myself eat to my hunger.

that's what I did too - relaxed portions in the 2ww but more strictly counted it before OV.

[suregena]

Another BFN. Think I may be out this month. :( I'm out of vitex so probably should order some before AF starts...

[pinkin2011]

Katie where have you gone??? Have you decided when your next attempt will be?

[PeonyPrincess]

Sorry about the BFN Suregena. I hope next month won't be so busy for you and you will get a perfectly clear +OPK so you know what is going on!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry about the BFN, suregena. Don't give up hope yet! :luck:

[amari]

my gut feeling is that if you're going to do clomid again next month I'd give the vitex a miss this cycle!

I've never done vitex or sp at all. Are you saying you wouldn't start it? I was considering doing vitex for the month I had off (Feb) from af-af and then stopping it before I start clomid again in march. AS said it was fine but can't decide. What is your hesitation? I am collecting all information b/c I am so on the fence! Thanks! Hope you are feeling well!

[amari]

Another BFN. Think I may be out this month. :( I'm out of vitex so probably should order some before AF starts...

Sorry, maybe not out yet!

[rainbowflower]

I've never done vitex or sp at all. Are you saying you wouldn't start it? I was considering doing vitex for the month I had off (Feb) from af-af and then stopping it before I start clomid again in march. AS said it was fine but can't decide. What is your hesitation? I am collecting all information b/c I am so on the fence! Thanks! Hope you are feeling well!

yes, I'm saying in your position I wouldn't try it - it's another unknown that could make things worse since you don't know how you will react to it. Lots of people get great results with it, but for some it can really mess things up too. I think not knowing what it's making your body do could cause you more stress in the long run

feeling good thank you :)

[KraizyDaizy]

It's CD9 and my last Clomid pill! Hurry up O get here already!!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

sorry about the bfn suregena are you sure on when you ovulated ?

amari hun i took vitex 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off for the last 2 months and have stopped it about 3 weeks ago so i can do clomid next week, it made me ovulate both times (i havent ovulated on my own for ages, prob because im a size 4 us) but it worked for me, it made me O 15 days after the last pill 1st time, and 13 days after the last pill 2nd time, if i dont get pregnant with clomid in the next 3 months i will def be starting it again, not sure you should take it now if your using clomid again next month tho hun it may mess things up,

[suregena]

Nope, not sure at all! Had no clearly positive OPK.

[auroara78]

Amari, I'm with Rainbow, where my opinion would be to not bother with Vitex because it is another unknown to your body, and you're already changing things a lot with the Clomid. Of course, do what you feel most comfortable with, and what makes you happy sway-wise, just my 2 cents.

Surgena, hate to hear about the BFN. How many dpo do you estimate yourself being? I always say it ain't over till AF shows up.

Hope N Dreams, it's February 1st!!!! YAY!!! Attempt month! Peony, I can't wait for your attempt too later this month, sounds like a lot of ya'll are O'ing towards the end of the month.

Dannikins, re: personalites and age gaps, I couldn't agree more. I think personality has a lot more of a factor than age gap. I love how you describe your second brother as loving to be around kids and being that kind of personality.

KD, so exicited about your last clomid pill! You better O soon and get that egg fertilized with a pinky sperm! heheh

[Out of the Blue]

Speaking of diet...I'm getting worried b/c I'm losing weight so quickly. Anyone else going through this? I ate some beans and cheese and corn tortillas for dinner tonight just to give myself the extra umph.

DH says I look way too thin, my BFF too :( I think so also. Any tips on how you ladies are maintaining? Should I just add in more fat and protein? I'm the lowest weight EVERRR....let alone when TTC. Any tips?

KYBO and Jazzers, my weight just hit a plateau...I'm 5'4.5 and 110 lbs. I just stopped losing any more weight about 2 mos ago. No matter how many cals I eat (1000 or 1800!) I still weigh the same and the scale is stuck there. I've often heard Atomic say that you'll usually stop losing before you lose too much. If you still keep losing too fast though, just try to up those cals a bit while still trying to stick to the LE staples and that should do the trick. Hope this helps!

[Out of the Blue]

Suregena...:HH:...Sorry for all the waiting! I know you're flying blind but it'll sort itself out here in a few days I hope (maybe w/a sneaky BFP!)

Amari, regarding the Vitex, I agree w/the others...Skip the Vitex! Just my "2 cents". Are you still waiting on AF?

[Out of the Blue]

I'm still waiting and waiting for AF...It's CD36!!!!! AAAARRRRGGGG!!! No signs of it yet :( It's Feb 1st...I just want to start a new cycle!

[auroara78]

Jen, I hope AF comes soon so you can have your cheat day and then start plotting your next sway! Any idea of what you'll drop/keep in for the Feb. attempt?

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey all i too plan on a cheat day when my af comes in march, can i cheat with some meat...... prob chicken as thats my fav, what do you all think ???

[auroara78]

I think lean chicken is fine for a girl sway, like chicken breasts. I would avoid fried chicken, or any chicken dark meat, as that's of course more fatty.

[Out of the Blue]

Jen, I hope AF comes soon so you can have your cheat day and then start plotting your next sway! Any idea of what you'll drop/keep in for the Feb. attempt?

No RepHresh, no FR this time. We'll keep the Sylk and hopefully have a few BD sessions around O.

As for the diet, I'm heading into month 4 on it so I'm making more consessions this time around. I'll still stay w/in the low cal/protein/fat guidelines and do low sodium but not be so strict. I'll keep up the vegetarian diet but I will be adding more nutrients from fruits and veggies. I'm also going very light on the sugar, caffiene and alcohol (for stronger eggies). I'm not concerned about nutrients from veggies/fruits/spices this time around. I just want a healthy bub at this point and if she's pink, that's great too!

YAY, Auroara...You've got a little blueberry growing in your belly! :cheer: Hope you're doing okay and not too sick. Is sugar still not your friend? :HH: Sending TONS of love to your bean!

[auroara78]

Sugar's still not a friend, but I'm OK with that. I've been indulging in whatever I can handle and it's been a yum feast! I had a gyro last night and it was pretty good, though I couldn't finish it all. Problem I'm having with sickness is that if I eat too fast I think I'm going to be sick. So I haven't enjoyed much sugar/sweets at all, but I'm way induldging in fruit & meat, particuarly fish...I love white fish. It's so nice to eat any food that I can stomach now, and not have to worry about counting calories, fat, etc, just worry about whether or not it's going to agree with me!

I got my confirmation scan on Monday and very excited but nervous about it. Can't wait to see my little blobby bub in there, and get my measurements! Want to confirm when I did O and also I am going to ask for the true transerve section to try to get a gender clue ala Ramzi theory!

[Out of the Blue]

hey all i too plan on a cheat day when my af comes in march, can i cheat with some meat...... prob chicken as thats my fav, what do you all think ???

One day won't hurt you at all IMO. Go for it!

[Out of the Blue]

That's FABULOUS, Auroara!!! Can't wait for Monday! I tried to find out what side my beans were on last time but my Dr. couldn't tell me and just said, "I know you're just trying to get a girl out of me, aren't you!?!". I sheepishly said, "Of course!"...

That's great that you're able to eat healthy things. Last pregnancy, although I'm usually a vegetarian, I just wanted to eat fish 24/7...I couldn't get enough, lol!

[littlemissnaughty7]

That's FABULOUS, Auroara!!! Can't wait for Monday! I tried to find out what side my beans were on last time but my Dr. couldn't tell me and just said, "I know you're just trying to get a girl out of me, aren't you!?!". I sheepishly said, "Of course!"...

That's great that you're able to eat healthy things. Last pregnancy, although I'm usually a vegetarian, I just wanted to eat fish 24/7...I couldn't get enough, lol!

is fish allowed on the LE diet hun ? ooh and what about baked beans ??

[Out of the Blue]

is fish allowed on the LE diet hun ? ooh and what about baked beans ??

The LE diet is kind of what you make of it. You can go hard-core or make it a softer sway. I would personally try to skip fish when you can b/c it's a healthy meat but if you need it once in a while, you could probably do it. Just figure it into your LE daily values of course!

Beans are okay as long as you can fit them into your daily LE values but watch out for the sodium in baked beans b/c I think it's pretty high. Also, beans have quite a lot of protein so you'd want to eat just a little bit.

ETA...Here's Atomic's take on fish (or any meat in particular):


DO NOT eat meat. Any meat. Or fish. At all. Regardless of what anyone on any other site tells you. Vegetarians have more girls and this has been pretty well proven. Vegetables for more girls?? (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?439-Vegetables-for-more-girls) Yes, vegetarians can and do conceive boys but the numbers don't lie.

If you do eat any fish, make sure it's not salmon or any of the kind rich in Omega 3s...

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks hun x

[HopeandDreamG]

Auorara~ HAHA, thanks! I LOVE that your counting down for me :bighug:

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ So sorry about BFN. another attempt is right around the corner.

Kraisydaisy~ O will be here soon......yay yay yay!!!

Auroara~ Can't wait to hear Monday!!! Looking forward also to hearing about the placenta's attachment. Post a pic for us when you get back!!

Hi everyone else :)

[Blund]

Hi!
I'm new here. First attempt will be february!
Anyone going to do o+12?
My cycles is always 28 days, but after diet and supps it's all messed up! AF one week early now! I thought I would have lost some weights by now since I eat very little. Should we wait because of that? After having our boy I have lost about 5 kg/11lbs, but nothing lately.

[suregena]

I'm still hoping I still have a chance. The ONLY pregnancy tests I've been using are the kind like these (well, they're identical, anyway) - Pregnancy Tests Strips (http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/3pregtesstri.html#reviews)

How reliable have these been for any ladies on here? I remember using them with my other pregnancies, but I seem to recall my first two pregnancies (that I lost) I DID end up using a First Response one and then with my son I used one of these, but I tested for the first time when I was around 5 1/2 weeks... so, naturally, SUPER positive (I didn't know I was pregnant, still post-miscarriage pre-AF returning!)

So, I wonder if there is still hope yet for me? I'm almost tempted to get some clearblue or first response off amazon or eBay...

Or wondering if I shouldn't bother and just wait this entire week out for a period and see if it comes at all...

[prayforprincess]

Suregena - You are not out til af comes. I never got a bfp til 2 days past when my af was due with all my boys. There is still hope. Maybe wait a few days -- though I know it is sooo hard.

KnockYBallsOff- I have lost a lot of weight too. 15 lbs. in 6 weeks. It's not crazy too much too fast though so I am not worried. I am losing roughly 2-3 lbs. a week. Don't want to lose more than that b/c I don't want to stop ovulation.

Amari- I am not taking Vitex -- only Saw Palmetto because I want to lower my T level.

Hope&Dream- Thank you -- it was such an emotional roller coaster...to be honest it still hurts. This week was my due date for the twins I conceived in May. It hurts because I wish I could change things and maybe they would be here. I know they were 100% healthy and perfect b/c I had a tissue analysis done after my d&c and everything was perfect...they were perfect.
My dh and I were dtd one night and during I was kinda feeling some pain but just wanted him to finish so we could be done. When it was over I was cramping so bad I could hardly walk. The next evening the bleeding started and it was all down hill from there. Having sex caused me to have uterine cramping -- and being I was only nearly 6 weeks, the cramping caused me to miscarry.
I was so depressed, I felt like I lost the only girls I would ever have. I still think that might be true. If I could take back that night I would in a heartbeat -- the biggest regret of my life and always will be. If that night never happened...I just might have been holding my newborn baby girls today.

[Mochagirl]

prayforprincess - I'm soooo sorry for all the pain you're feeling :hugs:.

[suregena]

Suregena - You are not out til af comes. I never got a bfp til 2 days past when my af was due with all my boys. There is still hope. Maybe wait a few days -- though I know it is sooo hard.


I know. Today was my AF due date! I am also very bloated tonight... could be due to incoming AF... could be something else? I weighed myself... I somehow weigh 4lbs more than the same time last night! WHAT THE! It better be the bloating, geez!

I am now checking CP for any indication of AF... I think I'm starting to lose it, ha! I went back and looked at my tests (I am out of them, stupid me! Should have waited!) and I keep torturing myself, staring, thinking I actually see a 'shadow' in two of them.

I'm feeling craaaazy. I just bought some clearblue digitals off eBay so if AF isn't here by the time they arrive, I'll use one. If THOSE are negative, I will really believe I'm not pregnant. I'll only use one though, to save the other for next cycle should I need to!

I had some stabby twinges on one side (left side) today at work, too.

:hair:

[Mochagirl]

suregena - what kind of tests have you been testing with? You're so patient to wait for new ones to arrive in the mail - I'd be out at the store buying a test this minute!

For the record, I started bloating like crazy from the moment I got my BFP...and I still am a month later.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all how is every one, oh prayforprincess my heart brakes thinking of what happened to your baby girls, was it def the sex that did it ? try not to beat yourself up about it hun, there was no way to know that was going to happen xx

[suregena]

suregena - what kind of tests have you been testing with? You're so patient to wait for new ones to arrive in the mail - I'd be out at the store buying a test this minute!

For the record, I started bloating like crazy from the moment I got my BFP...and I still am a month later.

Just those little cheapie blue Internet stick ones.

Feeling slightly AF type cramping tonight.... had some pinching twinge a little while ago... checked CM and CP and no color/AF. Each time I check I get a finger tip sized glob of cm.... sorry, that sounds so gross!

I don't want to pay store prices as I find them so excessive! This way if I am, and no AF, my patience should be rewarding. And if AF comes before the tests arrive, I don't have to waste any!


We'll see. This cycle has been far too mysterious for my liking...

[amari]

Prayingforprincess-So sorry for your loss. I hope you get a bfp soon! fx for you!

ootb-Yes, just like you still waiting for af! Did you take another test? My goodness, I had my +opk on Jan 15th, she is taking her sweet time! So you are not doing fr this time, are you going to abstain or do neither?

Seems that AS is the only one that thinks I should do Vitex for the month! So confused!

[PeonyPrincess]

Amari, I thought that vitex worked best if taken for at least 3 months. Initially it can muck things around, but after 3 months it all settles down? That was my take on it from what I've read and been told.

Prayforprincess, this must be a very difficult time for you. On the one hand missing your twins, and on the other hoping for a new baby and new beginning. Try not to beat yourself up with the 'what ifs', though I am sure it is easier said than done.

Auroara, Monday!!! Can't wait to hear how you go.

[rainbowflower]

Prayingforprincess-So sorry for your loss. I hope you get a bfp soon! fx for you!

ootb-Yes, just like you still waiting for af! Did you take another test? My goodness, I had my +opk on Jan 15th, she is taking her sweet time! So you are not doing fr this time, are you going to abstain or do neither?

Seems that AS is the only one that thinks I should do Vitex for the month! So confused!

follow your gut instinct, that's the only way to have no regrets

[suregena]

CP has gotten high today. No sign of AF yet (1 day late).

I had cramping las night and thought for sure it was AF coming, but nothing yet.

Holding onto a thread of hope and hoping I just tested too early with my wonky cycle/ovulation thing.

[suregena]

Annnd dizzy spell this morning.

[amari]

rainbowflower-I agree, somehow my gut has gotten lost along the way in this whole sway thing. I am trying to just let go a bit and stand back to see if I "feel" anything but it is a difficult one. Thanks!

[Mochagirl]

suregena - if you're not pregnant I'm going to be really shocked.

[suregena]

These symptoms are pretty convincing. My digital tests have shipped today so fingers crossed AF doesn't show up...

I feel mildly like I've got the butterflies, i.e.maybe like extra blood flow, mildly headachey this morning though it's gone now, had some light cramping today and more light one sided twinging, very hungry this morning :(, and thinking over this week, I have hit the snooze button 4-6 times each morning! And I was feeling groggy/heavy eyed last night at 8pm but still stayed up so don't know if there is any significance to that at all.

Lower back light twingey pain and a 'fullness' feeling.


I must be crazy! Wait for AF ro show up and make me feel foolish!

[rainbowflower]

rainbowflower-I agree, somehow my gut has gotten lost along the way in this whole sway thing. I am trying to just let go a bit and stand back to see if I "feel" anything but it is a difficult one. Thanks!

any doubts, and I wouldn't do it... I'm sure the clomid will strongly help your sway anyway!

[littlemissnaughty7]

suregena are you def sure you ovulated hun ?

[suregena]

Not sure. I'm always regular and doubt I didn't ovulate, it's just a case of when. I was using really cheap opk's but also checked my CP/CM, for what it's worth. High and stretchy Cm from 19th to 21st. Then CM changed to creamy and to very little and CP was low. Today CP is high, so... *shrugs*

I'll be temping next time if I'm not!

[auroara78]

Suregena, are you often late or are your cycles really regular?

My gut feeling is telling me you may be pregnant. I just got a feeling about this for you. I hope the Clearblues give you a clear BFP!!

Amari, I agree with Rainbow....you need to really listen to your gut. We are very well meaning to give advice out, but at the end of the day, you have to decide what sway YOU want/are able to do. :agree:

Hope N Dreams G, 18 days until O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoo hoo!!!!!!!!!!

[suregena]

Suregena, are you often late or are your cycles really regular?

My gut feeling is telling me you may be pregnant. I just got a feeling about this for you. I hope the Clearblues give you a clear BFP!!

Amari, I agree with Rainbow....you need to really listen to your gut. We are very well meaning to give advice out, but at the end of the day, you have to decide what sway YOU want/are able to do. :agree:

Hope N Dreams G, 18 days until O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoo hoo!!!!!!!!!!

ALWAYS regular. The only time I've had an episode of no period is when I
First moved to the UK, my period stopped! it went MIA for four months. My mom visited me and it started days after she left.
My first year here was intense, but my mom visiting made my periods return. Funny how that works! I had begun getting investigations at the GP and everything.

But other than that, very regular,. Before my son, about a 30 day cycle, and since the return of my cycle in September... it's been hovering around 27 days, average.

[auroara78]

Prayforaprincess,

I really feel for you with the PGD that you did and the twin baby girls that were lost :( I can only imagine that kind of pain and hurt losing your little girls must have been....

I must say that your vast knowledge about TTC pink for a sway is immense, and I think it's really, really great instead of letting the dream go and not trying anything again, you are arming yourself for the best possible sway you can do to try to get a daughter....I really commend your efforts. I think it's great you haven't given up, but you found a way to try to make your dream still happen. :celebrate:

[Out of the Blue]

Hope&Dream- Thank you -- it was such an emotional roller coaster...to be honest it still hurts. This week was my due date for the twins I conceived in May. It hurts because I wish I could change things and maybe they would be here. I know they were 100% healthy and perfect b/c I had a tissue analysis done after my d&c and everything was perfect...they were perfect.
My dh and I were dtd one night and during I was kinda feeling some pain but just wanted him to finish so we could be done. When it was over I was cramping so bad I could hardly walk. The next evening the bleeding started and it was all down hill from there. Having sex caused me to have uterine cramping -- and being I was only nearly 6 weeks, the cramping caused me to miscarry.
I was so depressed, I felt like I lost the only girls I would ever have. I still think that might be true. If I could take back that night I would in a heartbeat -- the biggest regret of my life and always will be. If that night never happened...I just might have been holding my newborn baby girls today.

prayforprincess...How did I miss this!?! I'm so, so sorry. I am :pray: you can concieve your THB very, very soon. :HH: I wish I could take all of your pain away…There are not enough hugs in the world for you :hugs:



ootb-Yes, just like you still waiting for af! Did you take another test? My goodness, I had my +opk on Jan 15th, she is taking her sweet time! So you are not doing fr this time, are you going to abstain or do neither?

Seems that AS is the only one that thinks I should do Vitex for the month! So confused!

Regarding the Vitex, go w/your gut! Atomic wouldn't steer you wrong...I just said skip it b/c it's just one more thing to worry about and I didn't want you to worry, kwim? I don't think it's a big deal if you take it, especially if Atomic gave you the go-ahead. :HH:

Any AF today???? No AF for me...so annoying!

Next round, no FR, no RepHresh...Just the diet + Sylk + TONS of POSITIVE THOUGHTS. I want to get preg before my parents visit in March/April b/c I don't want to deal w/swaying when they're around and I also want to have a baby in my belly as it'll be the birth month of my m/c twins. Sigh...

rainbowflower-I agree, somehow my gut has gotten lost along the way in this whole sway thing. I am trying to just let go a bit and stand back to see if I "feel" anything but it is a difficult one. Thanks!

I sooooo know the feeling, Amari! Seems like every month, I lose myself and need to regroup. It's such hard stuff TTC and swaying! Our dreams are on the line! :HH:


:celebrate: Welcome, Blund! Glad you're joining us! :celebrate:


Suregena, so sorry it’s so frustrating!!! :( :( :( Just hang on a few more days….:fingers:


:wave: to everyone else!!!

[rainbowflower]

suregena I really think you have a shy one there!

[Out of the Blue]

Okay, guys....PLEASE SEND ME AF VIBES!!! AF is LATE and I'm still not having any signs of it coming (and still BFNs). I just want to start this next cycle NOW!

[littlemissnaughty7]

eeeeeeeeeeeek suregena go an buy a test, when did you last do one ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

OOTB's belly ........ now listen here you, stop being a pain in the arse and give your owner a BFP or her AF right now or il fly over there and kick your but !!!!!!!

[Out of the Blue]

OOTB's belly ........ now listen here you, stop being a pain in the arse and give your owner a BFP or her AF right now or il fly over there and kick your but !!!!!!!

Ha, ha...I love it! Hope my belly listens to you b/c it's sure not listening to me!

[suregena]

eeeeeeeeeeeek suregena go an buy a test, when did you last do one ?

The night before last. I should have some tests tomorrow or Saturday so I'm going to wait it out! :x

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh it will listen OOTB hun, it knows i keep my word :wink:

[littlemissnaughty7]

The night before last. I should have some tests tomorrow or Saturday so I'm going to wait it out! :x

ok hun hope they come tomoz x

[auroara78]

Out of the blue, how late is AF now? 2-3 days and are you using good, high quality tests? I do hope your AF just comes on already if it's gonna show up!

Surgena, the wait is going to keel me!

[littlemissnaughty7]

so suregena you could really only be 11-12dpo so if you tested the night before last you could only have been 9-10dpo you could so still be pregnant huni !

[Out of the Blue]

Out of the blue, how late is AF now? 2-3 days and are you using good, high quality tests? I do hope your AF just comes on already if it's gonna show up!

Surgena, the wait is going to keel me!

I'm using Wondfos...I got a reaaaaally wicked evap last night (the line was white). I'd never seen those before...usually either a pink line or nothing at all. I think last night's test was defective. FMU test this a.m. was back to just one line and nothing else. I'm late by 2+ days.

I know, Auroara!...Surgena, I can't wait that long...is there any way you can test today, lol!!!

[rainbowflower]

I'm using Wondfos...I got a reaaaaally wicked evap last night (the line was white). I'd never seen those before...usually either a pink line or nothing at all. I think last night's test was defective. FMU test this a.m. was back to just one line and nothing else. I'm late by 2+ days.

I know, Auroara!...Surgena, I can't wait that long...is there any way you can test today, lol!!!

looking at your older charts by your longest luteal phase AF is due today?

[Mochagirl]

Oh, Jen - I really hope af comes soon so you can move on to CD1 :HH:

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~I am so sorry for your loss. No matter when something goes wrong we figure out a way to blame ourselves somehow. I know how hard it is when the due date comes. Mine just past Jan12th, my story is very different then yours, although it was a DD. I really thought I'd be preggo by now, but there have been several set backs. Here's to moving forward....

OOTB~ I am praying for you that you get a BFP next cycle- would be great to be done with the swaying when your family comes. Come on AF (or BFP)!

Suregena~ Hoping a BFP comes for you!! Maybe it will be good luck that you ordered the tests..you won't need them afterall.

Auorara~ I think I spell your name different everytime. How is it pronounced? Can't wait for Monday to hear about your scan!! and hopefully hear that the placenta is attached on the left (I got that correct, right?) We want left...

Rainbowflower & Mocha~ How are you feeling?

Hi everyone else!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Anyone have plans for Valentines day?? We CAN"T eat ahhhhh... I'm thinking maybe I can go with DH for a massage and decaf coffee LOL...everything else involves food!! Then his bday is right in the middle of our attempt. I'm going to get him to hold off on going to dinner as long as I can....

[amari]

Ha, ha...I love it! Hope my belly listens to you b/c it's sure not listening to me!

Can I get some of that too?? I'm in the same boat! What's going on here?!

[Mochagirl]

Rainbowflower & Mocha~ How are you feeling?



I'm feeling ok, thanks. No real nausea yet, just extreme fatigue, crankiness and 'pregnancy brain'. I wrote this on another thread, but yesterday I drove the wrong way down a one way street I've driven down thousands of times, and last night I forgot to take my iPod Touch out of my pants pocket before doing the laundry :worry:.

I have my u/s scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, and I'll feel a lot better once I see a heartbeat.

[suregena]

You guys talked me into it! :x I picked up a store's own brand on the way home from work.

Errr.... now what do I do? I'm scared to see BFN. I know if I do, that would definitely be it this month! I've not had anything to drink since 3pm (though I am eating dinner right now) and I went to the bathroom when I got home... but urine was too clear so I didn't use it. What should I dooooo?? It's 7pm right now.

[rainbowflower]

Suregena use FMU tomorrow?

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[Mochagirl]

I agree with RF, Suregena - just so you have no regrets and don't second-guess your results, use FMU tomorrow.

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ I third that, bc you will want to do another in the am.

Mocha~ OMG I have LE diet brain!! I can't find my words....little problem bc I talk for a living!! LOL

[prayforprincess]

Thank you for all the hugs. I just hope swaying gives me a second chance to have my princess. I was telling my mother yesterday -- I get a A for effort. I have done so much and sacrificed so much for this baby girl that I have not even conceived yet. The sacrifice of being on this terrible, horrible diet alone is enough -- not to mention everything else. She told me that God could never be that cruel and I will have my daughter. Here's to hoping...

Suregena- I don't know what to say...if you are not pregnant I will be totally shocked. I think you tested too early and agree with Littlemiss -- you are only 11-12 dpo probably, so you tested like 9-10 dpo which can be way too early. Use FMU tomorrow and you should definitely get you BFP!
How many times did you dtd last month and on what days in correlation to say, the 20th (rough guesstimate when u o'ed)? -- I remember it was a lot.

[suregena]

Suregena- I don't know what to say...if you are not pregnant I will be totally shocked. I think you tested too early and agree with Littlemiss -- you are only 11-12 dpo probably, so you tested like 9-10 dpo which can be way too early. Use FMU tomorrow and you should definitely get you BFP!
How many times did you dtd last month and on what days in correlation to say, the 20th (rough guesstimate when u o'ed)? -- I remember it was a lot.

I was using three different websites since my period returned to track my cycle. All three said I would O around the 18th. I started using OPK's on the 15th, which originally had me freaking out I somehow missed the surge (my period was January 5th to 11th) but then I thought that'd be a little too early, really... so I relaxed a bit... but we went ahead and began DTD 6 times in total, from the 18th to the 21st. I checked CP/CM from the 19th and every day since then and the 19th until the 21st it was high in position with stretchy (though not a ton of it because of antihistamines) CM and then went low suddenly and creamy CM on the 22nd (my son's 2nd birthday!)

It was low and hard since then but now today it's high again and feels "wet" in there.

So, 6 times, from 18th to the 21st. I MUST have O'd in that window time. I remember by the night of the 21st, DTD felt very different... I could feel him hitting my cervix! Hahaha! TMI! So I've been sort of leaning on the 20th as O day. Who knows.

What a wonky cycle. I will NEVER EVER buy cheap OPKs AGAIN! :(

FMU in the morning it is, then! :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

amari's belly ............. now you just listen here mrs, i have had it up to here with bellys not doing as there told today, im giving you 2 days not a moment longer and then if your still gona play these games you best watch your back !!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

right just pm me if any one elses belly needs a talking to lol,

[prayforprincess]

I was using three different websites since my period returned to track my cycle. All three said I would O around the 18th. I started using OPK's on the 15th, which originally had me freaking out I somehow missed the surge (my period was January 5th to 11th) but then I thought that'd be a little too early, really... so I relaxed a bit... but we went ahead and began DTD 6 times in total, from the 18th to the 21st. I checked CP/CM from the 19th and every day since then and the 19th until the 21st it was high in position with stretchy (though not a ton of it because of antihistamines) CM and then went low suddenly and creamy CM on the 22nd (my son's 2nd birthday!)

It was low and hard since then but now today it's high again and feels "wet" in there.

So, 6 times, from 18th to the 21st. I MUST have O'd in that window time. I remember by the night of the 21st, DTD felt very different... I could feel him hitting my cervix! Hahaha! TMI! So I've been sort of leaning on the 20th as O day. Who knows.

What a wonky cycle. I will NEVER EVER buy cheap OPKs AGAIN! :(

FMU in the morning it is, then! :)

Ok I am telling you right now -- I am no psychic but I really believe you are pg. I never got + pg test til 14dpo and even when I was pg with twins I did not get a bfp til 12dpo -- with twins. So do not be alarmed if it is still - in the am, but it just might be +.
I really think you dtd on the right days...unless you really did o on the 18th and missed it; but that seems so unlikely given your other symptoms.
And....drum roll...whenever I am pg or have conceived sex always is more sensitive. I can feel him hitting my cervix -- I know exactly what you are saying. Deep penetration hurts -- it feels like he is banging up there.
It really sounds like you have a bun in the oven.
Can't wait to read your test results in the am!
My bd plan is similar to yours -- we plan to dtd 5x in 48 hrs. I usually o on cd 16 or 17, so we will dtd cd15 am & pm, cd16 am & pm and cd17am. If I don't get pg its because the egg sucked and not b/c there wasn't sperm up there :)

[dramabird]

first day of feb, and 10 pages already......lol... i have to catch up....

Me, too! :)

[suregena]

Man, I hope so! I feel different than just waiting for my period...

CP still high, still 'wet' in there, and no sign of any AF yet.
Been headachey (mild) this evening/night.

This would suck if I'm not because I will NEVER TRUST MY BODY AGAIN!
If I DID O on the 18th, I think I would have had an LH surge detected somewhere when I started testing on the 15th... but those first tests were my faintest OPKs of them all (and the very last ones.) I'm just hoping they just couldn't pick it up adequately or maybe because of supps/diet it made it go quick or something. I don't knoooooow!

I will be VERY SORRY to not produce a BFP for you guys, most of all! :P

Hope I don't disappoint! Fingers crossed. :nails:

p.s. I am REALLY bloated!

[dramabird]

So what is the deal with everyone's AF being so stubborn in showing up? Mine is due, like, immediately ... we haven't been TTCing yet, so I'm not in hopes of a BFP ... I'm just awaiting AF so that I can officially say I'm in my TTC cycle. If AF does arrive soon (I had some slightly pink-tinged CM yesterday and a very pale brown discharge today), then I'm expecting to O on day 16. I've temped the past four months and Oed on days 20, 15, 13 and 15, in that order.

And man oh man, am I hungry!

Fingers crossed, suregena!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Well my cycle is officially screwed! Looks like AF is about to start and I am only 10DPO. WTF? I won't even be able to sustain a pregnancy with cycles this crazy.
GL Suregena. As soon as I finish work, I will be checking in!

[jazzers]

Well my cycle is officially screwed! Looks like AF is about to start and I am only 10DPO. WTF? I won't even be able to sustain a pregnancy with cycles this crazy.
GL Suregena. As soon as I finish work, I will be checking in!

That is so frustrating! That happened to me last cycle - AF snuck up at 10DPO. Man was I mad!! Fingers crossed next cycle is more cooperative for you :)

[jazzers]

I am now 4DPO today (I *think*...weird cycle....), and I have been cramping like crazy the past two days. Plus, yesterday and today I have been SO tired by naptime that I have had to lay down and take a nap while the kids sleep! That is really quite unusual for me. But, I don't really believe that these are early pg symptoms, because the embryo wouldn't have even implanted by now, so there would be no hormonal changes to cause that, right??

[amari]

amari's belly ............. now you just listen here mrs, i have had it up to here with bellys not doing as there told today, im giving you 2 days not a moment longer and then if your still gona play these games you best watch your back !!!!

:awe: Thank you very much, Littlemiss!

[amari]

Well my cycle is officially screwed! Looks like AF is about to start and I am only 10DPO. WTF? I won't even be able to sustain a pregnancy with cycles this crazy.
GL Suregena. As soon as I finish work, I will be checking in!

This was me in December, now January and I am like 16-18 dpo and still no af, wtf?! Gl, peony! I think 10 days is still ok though!

[purple sky]

Hey ladies just checking in.. it's been a bit crazy around here. Trying to keep up with the posts.

Rainbow still so happy for you! I hope many of us can join you preggo ladies soon :HH:

Amari - Thats crazy how our cycles are all screwy. last cycle was a 9 day luteal length and this one was 15! Vitex?

[PeonyPrincess]

I think so purple sky. I always had 28 day cycles, like clockwork, but since being on vitex, it is all over the place.
Any news suregena?

[suregena]

BFN. :(

I'll just wait for late AF now, then.

I'm going to order the stuff I'm out of... vitex, licorice root, get some DIGITAL OPKs, and I think that's all I need... besides more tasteless low everything groceries! I have 1 repHresh applicator so pondering just using the one or not at all. I feel a cheat day coming on, I'm a little down!

If I'm not pregnant this next cycle, I'll have to wait because I can't be heavily pregnant or with a newborn in Jan/Dec due to international traveling plans! :(

Feedback on this month's plan gratefully received. I'm ordering the stuff but won't open any until my cycle starts so I know for sure.

What's the deal with the soy supps thing?

[suregena]

Oh yeah, and a BBT!!!!!!

Any free BBT charting websites around?

[rainbowflower]

:( sorry for the BFN..

fertility friend is free - you can pay a little to upgrade, but you don't need to to use the charting features
I think countdowntopregnancy do one too

[PeonyPrincess]

Oh, sorry to hear about the BFN Suregena. You have not let us down at all. We feel like we are all on this journey together, so are here through the good and the not so good.
I love fertility friend too. And I really like temping as it makes when you O a lot clearer, even if it is not when you want it to have happened. There are still plenty of us TTC in February. You can just join the TTC crew again, when AF finally shows for you!

[suregena]

What a strange, strange cycle. :(

I just had an intense burst of pain in my left ovary area. Watch, it's probably me Oing or something stupid like that... sigh, since I don't know if I even did. Feeling so, so down today! Bah!!!

[Mochagirl]

I'm so sorry about the BFN, suregena. It sounds like lots of people are having screwy cycles this month. I hope next month is your lucky month :HH:

[amari]

Sorry about bfn, suregena. Hope next month is better!!

So, I have a new theory and I don't know if it is even possible. I am wondering if instead of my pain and swelling in the ovaries last week and the ob said that was ovarian hyper stimulation, if that was when I actually ovulated? That is the ovulation type pain I usually have, I had cm, and as of now I still don't have a period and am not pregnant. I did get a smiley on the 15th, but if I really ovulated around the 15, 16, or 17th I should have gotten a period by now. Is it possible to get a surge then not ovulate for that long? If so I am pissed that I missed O yet again and another freakin month wasted on clomid. But the more I think about it the more I think that is what happened.

[sis4O]

I'm sorry Suregena. I am just as down. I have almost every pg symptom possible which makes my bfn this a.m. annoying to say the least.......more like gut wrenching. I don't have time on my side. I'll be 41 in a couple of months. I could be testing too early as my opk's didn't turn positive until last Wednesday and oddly have continued to stay positive even now. I fell off the diet wagon BIG TIME. True confession.......I bought a chocolate heart donut at Dunkin Donuts yesterday just to lick the vanilla frosting out from the middle. What is wrong with me??

My chest hurts, they look like they always do when pg. I've had crazy dreams. I " feel" pregnant. I think mother nature can be cruel at times. I won't test again until Sunday. I'm not even sure of when I o'd. We dtd lots of days so I guess I'll wait it out a bit more but feeling less encouraged this morning. If I were only a bit younger I wouldn't feel as depressed. I'm that crazy girl holding the HPT to the window willing a shadow of a line. Just sad all around!

[KraizyDaizy]

Sorry about bfn, suregena. Hope next month is better!!

So, I have a new theory and I don't know if it is even possible. I am wondering if instead of my pain and swelling in the ovaries last week and the ob said that was ovarian hyper stimulation, if that was when I actually ovulated? That is the ovulation type pain I usually have, I had cm, and as of now I still don't have a period and am not pregnant. I did get a smiley on the 15th, but if I really ovulated around the 15, 16, or 17th I should have gotten a period by now. Is it possible to get a surge then not ovulate for that long? If so I am pissed that I missed O yet again and another freakin month wasted on clomid. But the more I think about it the more I think that is what happened.

The one thing I do remember when I was on Clomid a few years ago was the roller coaster emotions and excruciating O pains, so I think you were actually Oing when you were having so much pain. I am on CD11 and have just had a few twinges of pain so far, but I think I have a few days till I actually O.

[littlemissnaughty7]

sis hun i still think its way to early for you to get a BFP yet hun dont get down stay positive,

amari your welcome lol, and that could very well have been what happened, my sister was soooooooooo ill with OHSS she was in hospital for ages, they say it can kill you !

suregena hun could it be that your body is ovulating now ? do you have any opks left ?

[prayforprincess]

oh, suregena...I thought for sure. You cycle was so wacky, maybe you did miss it somehow. I don't see how you could dtd 6 times around o and not be pg...you must have missed it. It's still early and you have not gotten your af yet.....I don't know. Its a waiting game.

So, my af is due tomorrow. Can't wait to start and be on cd1!

[Out of the Blue]

looking at your older charts by your longest luteal phase AF is due today?

Yeah...my cycles have been crazy b/c I just got them back right before I became preg last summer and then they're crazy again from the m/c. My LP ranges from 11-15. I think FF is wrong and I'm actually 16-17dpo today and still no sign of AF. :( I guess I'll have to visit my OB-GYN next week to get things checked out in hopes of an Ovulation this month...:fingers: I don't think I've got any control over my body anymore, lol.

Hope you're doing well, Rainbow! :pregnant: Whatcha eating these days??? Do share so we can live vicariously through you, lol.

[Out of the Blue]

OOTB~ I am praying for you that you get a BFP next cycle- would be great to be done with the swaying when your family comes. Come on AF (or BFP)!


Thank-you! Hoping my body cooperates and AF gets here soon!

:celebrate:17 more days for you.... :pinksperm: :celebrate:

[Out of the Blue]

Can I get some of that too?? I'm in the same boat! What's going on here?!

I know! WTH is going on??? It's sooooooo frustrating, isn't it!?! Any sign of AF yet for you? I usually can feel it coming on but there's nothing on so I'd be surprised if it comes today or tomorrow. Sorry you're in the same boat too. LMN7, I guess you need to give our bellies another talking to!

[Out of the Blue]

Anyone have plans for Valentines day?? We CAN"T eat ahhhhh... I'm thinking maybe I can go with DH for a massage and decaf coffee LOL...everything else involves food!! Then his bday is right in the middle of our attempt. I'm going to get him to hold off on going to dinner as long as I can....

V-day will be hard swaing-wise...It's DS2's B-day so there'll be lots of goodies involved. I may make it a cheat day :)

A massage and decaf coffee doesn't sound bad at all, H&D!!!

[Out of the Blue]

Well my cycle is officially screwed! Looks like AF is about to start and I am only 10DPO. WTF? I won't even be able to sustain a pregnancy with cycles this crazy.
GL Suregena. As soon as I finish work, I will be checking in!

Jeeeze...these crazy cycles are just continuing for ALL of us...:( Sorry, Peony! Hoping things are better for you next cycle...:HH:

[Out of the Blue]

Suregena, HUGS, HUGS AND MORE HUGS...:hugs: I'm so sorry...it's so darn frustrating, isn't it! :HH:

[sweetsister]

Hi everyone:) Im excited to be swaying again now in Feb i took Jan off and have had really wacky cycles ive just had Af 10 days early!!!Now im starting prescribed Clomid first time which im a little scared about the twin percentage??and kinda bummed my cycle was so early because i will for sure ovulate in full moon cycle ,i know it isnt important but it made me feel better when i was in new moon before..So anyone know when i should plan on bding with clomid i will be taking from cd3-7 do you normally o later than usual?

[xokatietatie]

Hello all... it's been quite a while since I've been on.

First off...

Congrats to you, Rainbow.

Sorry about your BFN, suregena. I know how awful seeing those BFNs can be. :(

Amari, any updates?

As for me... I'm just going through the motions everyday. I love keeping up with everyone on here, but I'm still really struggling with my BFN so it's been easier for me to stay away. I'm just trying to keep myself distracted and focus on other things right now. If DH and I decide to try again, it will be in August. Though, at this point, I don't know if I want to try again. My three boys are such blessings, and if I never have another child I will still be incredibly blessed. I'm trying to learn to be content with what I have in my life right now. I don't need any more than what I have now with my hubby and boys. I still struggle with my BFN though. I know that women don't get pregnant on the first try often. I know there are women that struggle for years, and that's not even with a sway. I was so lucky to get pregnant without trying for all three of my boys. I never emotionally prepared myself to not get pregnant right away with this try. I just thought it would happen for me again. When it didn't, I was devastated. If I do ever decide to try again, I really need to take the time to prepare myself for everything, good and bad. I also need to lose some weight. I don't want to get pregnant being as fat as I am now. I could stand to lose 50 pounds probably. But I want you all to know that even though I'm not around daily, I still think of you all often. I hope you all get BFPs and little ladies.

[Out of the Blue]

I am now 4DPO today (I *think*...weird cycle....), and I have been cramping like crazy the past two days. Plus, yesterday and today I have been SO tired by naptime that I have had to lay down and take a nap while the kids sleep! That is really quite unusual for me. But, I don't really believe that these are early pg symptoms, because the embryo wouldn't have even implanted by now, so there would be no hormonal changes to cause that, right??

:fx:...Hope you've got a little one starting in there...:cheer:

[Out of the Blue]

Oh yeah, and a BBT!!!!!!

Any free BBT charting websites around?

I really do like FertilityFriend! As far as BBT goes, I say take the temps of your Va-J.J. b/c sometimes you may sleep w/your mouth open, which can affect the temps. I'll be switching to Va-J.J. temps after AF is done (if it would ever get here!!!).

[Out of the Blue]

Sorry about bfn, suregena. Hope next month is better!!

So, I have a new theory and I don't know if it is even possible. I am wondering if instead of my pain and swelling in the ovaries last week and the ob said that was ovarian hyper stimulation, if that was when I actually ovulated? That is the ovulation type pain I usually have, I had cm, and as of now I still don't have a period and am not pregnant. I did get a smiley on the 15th, but if I really ovulated around the 15, 16, or 17th I should have gotten a period by now. Is it possible to get a surge then not ovulate for that long? If so I am pissed that I missed O yet again and another freakin month wasted on clomid. But the more I think about it the more I think that is what happened.

Hmmmm...could be! I'm glad you've got a theory about what your body may be doing b/c I sure don't, lol. It seems like the more I try to control this, the more I can't control anything...TTC is getting waaaaay harder than I'd ever imagined. Hope we can all get a handle on things and get BFPs from our Feb attempts to make up for mostly bad luck this last month.

[Mochagirl]

V-day will be hard swaing-wise...It's DS2's B-day so there'll be lots of goodies involved. I may make it a cheat day :)


DEFINITELY make it a cheat day, and have no regrets. Looking back, I'm so glad I gave myself cheat days on all the special occasions like birthdays, etc. Many of those months I didn't get pregnant anyway, and I would have missed out on such a bit part of the celebrations for nothing. Even with the cheats I did have over Christmas, which WAS my BFP cycle, I don't have any regrets - we have to live our lives, even though we all desperately want a girl.

Besides...you just deserve a cheat day or two because this has been an excruciatingly long cycle and you've been doing this diet too bloody long!

[auroara78]

surgena, sorry about the BFN :(

OOTB, how frustrating!! All those BFNs and STILL no AF....sorry to say this, but you're AF is starting to tick me off...she just needs to show up already so the new cycle can begin...GRRR!

Amari, you too are late for your period??? WTH is going on with all this late periods and no BFPs? It's making me hot under the collar!

Katie, I understand about hard to be here when you had wanted it so bad last month. :hug: I hope you do decide to try again in August, or even before that! We love having you around!

Peony, can't believe that short LP! I'd definitely get that looked into so you can sustain a pregancy! We need you to get a BFP soon! :)

Hope N Dreams, we are one day closer to your attempt!!!!!!!!!! Yay!!! The name is pronounced just like Aurora Borealis, or for another example, sleeping beauty's name is Aurora. It's a gamer tag of mine...auroara78, see the name Aurora was taken in this fantasy online game I used to play, so i named my character Auroara Borealis because she was an enchanter. She wore pretty shiny robes and had a wand looking weapon, LOL. My husband and I met playing that game :)

It's just become my online name, who I am in the online world. I'm currently using it to play Star Wars online game with my husband. (Once the kids go to bed, his idea of spending *time* together, is playing a game together....so I sometimes induldge him)

I am feeling OK. Will go for hours feeling good then all of sudden feel like crap, really nauesated, headachy. My other pregancies I had an consistent vague seasickness that followed me all around, all day. This is definitely more extreme, when I feel bad, I do feel bad, when I don't, I feel great. I know, I know I shouldn't be looking into symptoms for gender guesses.... /slaps hand

Also, yes, placenta placement left is supposed to mean girl, so I hope it's left, just to keep the hope alive for a while longer!

[Out of the Blue]

My chest hurts, they look like they always do when pg. I've had crazy dreams. I " feel" pregnant. I think mother nature can be cruel at times. I won't test again until Sunday. I'm not even sure of when I o'd. We dtd lots of days so I guess I'll wait it out a bit more but feeling less encouraged this morning. If I were only a bit younger I wouldn't feel as depressed. I'm that crazy girl holding the HPT to the window willing a shadow of a line. Just sad all around!

I think we're ALL "that crazy girl", lol! I really, really, REALLY hope you get that BFP on Sunday! Aside from Rainbow, we've not had much luck around here so I think we're due for a big batch of BFPs in the next few wks!!!

[auroara78]

I agree, I think this group is due for a slew of BFPs this coming cycle! Whooo hooo Feb cycles!!

And I totally agree with Mocha about cheat days. They really help your sanity, they are very important to have, esp. holidays like birthdays, etc.

Re: Valentine's Day, I think I want my husband and I have to dinner alone someplace, but it's not going to be on V day itself because of all the crowds. I'd rather go on a different night and celebrate the idea of us together, eating a meal in PEACE! The best V-day dinner I ever had was actually on Valentine's day, we booked it at a real fancy Italian restuarant, and it was a four course deluxe meal, and I had crab ravoilli and that was amazing, and my husband had the most buttery delicous mashed potatoes and the more tender filet migon. The place closed down once the recession hit :(

[Out of the Blue]

Hi everyone:) Im excited to be swaying again now in Feb i took Jan off and have had really wacky cycles ive just had Af 10 days early!!!Now im starting prescribed Clomid first time which im a little scared about the twin percentage??and kinda bummed my cycle was so early because i will for sure ovulate in full moon cycle ,i know it isnt important but it made me feel better when i was in new moon before..So anyone know when i should plan on bding with clomid i will be taking from cd3-7 do you normally o later than usual?

Did it feel good to take that break? Sorry I'm no help regarding Clomid but it seems many on this thread are Clomid swayers. I wouldn't worry one iota about Oing around a full moon. I know mentally, it's annoying but really I think you're doing so many other things to make up for any boy-swaying affects it would have. :luck: to you!

[suregena]

sis hun i still think its way to early for you to get a BFP yet hun dont get down stay positive,

amari your welcome lol, and that could very well have been what happened, my sister was soooooooooo ill with OHSS she was in hospital for ages, they say it can kill you !

suregena hun could it be that your body is ovulating now ? do you have any opks left ?

Even if I were, hubby has done neither FR or abstain, isn't taking licorice root, and I've gained 2lbs!

So, a complete loss for me.

[Out of the Blue]

I'm trying to learn to be content with what I have in my life right now. I don't need any more than what I have now with my hubby and boys.

I'm going through the exact same thing, Katie. Sending you TONS of XXXs and OOOs...when it's right, it'll happen, even if you're not really trying! We're thinking of you! :HH:

[Out of the Blue]

DEFINITELY make it a cheat day, and have no regrets. Looking back, I'm so glad I gave myself cheat days on all the special occasions like birthdays, etc. Many of those months I didn't get pregnant anyway, and I would have missed out on such a bit part of the celebrations for nothing. Even with the cheats I did have over Christmas, which WAS my BFP cycle, I don't have any regrets - we have to live our lives, even though we all desperately want a girl.

Besides...you just deserve a cheat day or two because this has been an excruciatingly long cycle and you've been doing this diet too bloody long!

Ouch...enough twisting my arm, Mocha!!!! YAY!!! Cheat day, it is!!!

[Out of the Blue]

OOTB, how frustrating!! All those BFNs and STILL no AF....sorry to say this, but you're AF is starting to tick me off...she just needs to show up already so the new cycle can begin...GRRR!

Amari, you too are late for your period??? WTH is going on with all this late periods and no BFPs? It's making me hot under the collar!



I know, right!!! It seems like AF is either not coming or coming too soon for most of us around here...What a relief it'll be to get AF!

Cool background on your username!!! Give your little bean a squeeze for me! :awe:

[Out of the Blue]

Okay, guys...sorry for the posting explosions today...:oops:...I think I'm caught up and won't post for awhile, lol!

[littlemissnaughty7]

could the diet and the losing weight be the problems for the no afs around here ?

[Out of the Blue]

could the diet and the losing weight be the problems for the no afs around here ?

And maybe the Vitex too...My weight isn't fuctuating at all, though...No matter what I do, I'm always at 110 lbs. Not losing but not gaining, either.

Wonky cycles are usually a good thing for pink swayers but this is getting downright annoying!

[xokatietatie]

I'm going through the exact same thing, Katie. Sending you TONS of XXXs and OOOs...when it's right, it'll happen, even if you're not really trying! We're thinking of you! :HH:

Thanks, girl. That means a lot to me.

[rainbowflower]

apologies for not posting much in here everyone... possibly a nesting-thing but I had an urge to visit my mum (200 miles away) so we're staying with her for the weekend

[Mochagirl]

I'm visiting my Mom this weekend too, rainbow. Enjoy your weekend!

[rainbowflower]

thanks! we haven't told her, but it's nice being around her :)

[Mochagirl]

My entire family's congregating at my Mom's place this weekend - 3 brothers, their wives and 5 kids between them (+ my family of 5). Only my Mom knows about the pregnancy, so I'm going to be trying to hide my massive, bloated belly all weekend - it will be even more noticeable because the last time any of them saw me I was a Size 0 due to the LE diet.

[littlemissnaughty7]

katie hun i hope you start feeling better soon i will also be gutted if i dont conceive my first attempt as im the same as you and fell very easily pregnant with my two boys, but im sure it wont happen and il be doomed to this diet forever lol, im having my first cheat day today and having a take out, its still 3 weeks till my attempt, what do you all think ?

[purple sky]

I definitely think that the diet, vitex and b-6 is messing with everyone's cycles! The more we try to control our cycle and time everything perfectly, the more it rebels LOL

[purple sky]

Rainbow and Mocha - Enjoy the weekend with your families :) Are you guys going to spill the beans or hold off on telling?

LMN7 - I know how heartbreaking it is to see the neg. tests, hopefully you won't. Enjoy your cheat day!

[Mochagirl]

I was thinking of telling the rest of my family this weekend, but dh doesn't want me to. They all know about my m/c anyway and will probably suspect when they see my weight gain + notice I'm not drinking wine, but I have to respect dh's wishes.

[sweetsister]

Did it feel good to take that break? Sorry I'm no help regarding Clomid but it seems many on this thread are Clomid swayers. I wouldn't worry one iota about Oing around a full moon. I know mentally, it's annoying but really I think you're doing so many other things to make up for any boy-swaying affects it would have. :luck: to you!

No actually i hated taking a break i feel like my clock is tick tick ticking away,but now im excited to try again!:flowerz: thanxs

[littlemissnaughty7]

well i researched how much cals/fat/protein/sodium is in my take out and its HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE so il wait till tomorrow for it so i can skip lunch too,

[rainbowflower]

My entire family's congregating at my Mom's place this weekend - 3 brothers, their wives and 5 kids between them (+ my family of 5). Only my Mom knows about the pregnancy, so I'm going to be trying to hide my massive, bloated belly all weekend - it will be even more noticeable because the last time any of them saw me I was a Size 0 due to the LE diet.

good luck bump-hiding! when will you tell them the happy news?
I'm sort of doing the same, loads of bloating at the moment...

[maybeoneday]

Hello everyone,

This could be quite a long post as I fill you all in on the last 2 weeks, so my apologies in advance...

We are having some major building work done on our house and the builders decided quite late on that it would be for the best if we moved out of home for a couple of weeks..

All was going well with my sway and we DTD 20/1 and 21/1 for DH FR for 11 days. I was due to ovulate on 23/1. On the 22/1 we moved out and it all went a bit wrong......

We moved in with my parents so I think it is fair to say my diet went out of the window. She would have forcefed me breakfast if she could have but I objected so strongly she backed off, but there is no way she will tolerate me being a vegetarian - I think she already thinks I am on the verge of an eating disorder as I have lost over a stone.

We did manage to DTD again (v quietly and quickly!) on the 22/1 and 23/1 but I never got a +OPK to work out when I actually ovulated. My CM was scant all month which is usually a big sign for me so I am not really sure.

Fast forward to Wednesday and I have been having headaches all week, have tender breasts and feel a bit sick every now and again. But all my HPTs so far have been negative. Bottom line is that I have no idea what to make of this month and feel really disappointed if I get another BFN (been trying since October and really want a baby now)

So I guess (other than to make me feel better writing it down), is if it is a BFN which I suspect, I am really not sure what to drop if anything next month. Would you continue with the Vitex and the SP, would you continue with the FR, how important do you think not having the big O is as I believe it pushes the sperm further inside???

Thanks for reading if you got this far. xx

[maybeoneday]

OOTB - hope AF turns up soon - that is my worst time when you know you are not PG, but can't move on until it arrives

Suregena - Sorry for the BFN, they are so hard to see (hugs)

RF - have a lovely weekend with your mum

Mocha - good luck with the baggy jumpers!

Sweetsister - good to have you back. Best of luck this month.

(waves) to everyone else, I will be online a bit more when get back home!! xx

[Mochagirl]

good luck bump-hiding! when will you tell them the happy news?
I'm sort of doing the same, loads of bloating at the moment...

Probably sometime after my 12 week u/s.

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi everyone. Just caught up on the posts. Crazy busy day. My day off from work seems to be more work then when I work!!

Auorara~ I spelt it different again! Love the background on your name and how you meet DH! really cool. There was a really cool thread recently about people's user names and how they came up with them. It was really fun to read. One day closer!! YAY... I agree about going out on a different night then Valentines day too. I'm actually working the night of V day aanyway!

Suregena~ So sorry about the BFN.. its such a bummer... (((hug))) OH, and you did NOT let anyone down...

OOTB~ enjoy the cheat day. My DH's bday is the week I will O and I know he is going to want to go to dinner. I will see how many DPO I can push off the dinner. I will need some help when it gets closer!

MOcha & Rainbow~ Enjoy your weekend away!

Katie~ I totally know how you feel. I got preggo without even having to put any effort in 3 times. I know I will be BEYOND gutted if Feb attempt doesn't end up in a BFP. We certainly are due for some on this thread and I have a good feeling for all of us!!!!

Hi everyone else :)

[purple sky]

Maybeoneday - How many dpo are you? 12? You still have some time, I hope you are pregnant. I know it's hard when it doesn't happen. I'm not sure what you should drop first, maybe someone who know the importance of each factor in order of importance can chime in.

OOTB - I hope AF arrives asap! I hate the waiting game. Have you tried taking Vit. C? sex?

Surgena - Sorry, it sounds like you may have missed O this time around. I hope next cycle is much more predictable.

[pinkin2011]

Hi everyone :wave: I am still hanging around.. waiting for my next attempt which i thought would be in march .. TBH i am so scared of another bfn and i am also scared I will fail, I dont know how to over come this. The way i am going i will never try again.. Anyway next weekend Is a very busy weekend and I WILL be having a few :beer: I think i deserve it!

[purple sky]

Hi Pink, Glad to see your still hanging around. Believe me I know how hard a bfn is. I have seen them month after month after YEAR... But I still gotta try. And no a bfn doesn't mean YOU failed in any way, it just means that the time is not right just yet. Keep trying I just know it will happen for you soon :)

[amari]

Hey, ladies! Hope all is well! Just wanted to let the clomid swayers know there is a "sticky" now under the gender swaying sun-forum in case you ever want to chat there about clomid related things or have questions!

[lemon2012]

No actually i hated taking a break i feel like my clock is tick tick ticking away,but now im excited to try again!:flowerz: thanxs

There you are sweet sister....how are you?
When do you try this month.?
I have been thinking of you!

[lemon2012]

Well my cycle is officially screwed! Looks like AF is about to start and I am only 10DPO. WTF? I won't even be able to sustain a pregnancy with cycles this crazy.
GL Suregena. As soon as I finish work, I will be checking in!

What?
For sure a f?
I have had spotting on cd 10 twice now...vitex?

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all well im 8dpo (attempt free cycle) and ive been cramping all day i hope my AF doesnt come yet last month it was 12dpo so hope it will hold out till at least then,