TTC Girl - February 2012

[HopeandDreamG]

Wow that is super early rainbow. Was it really really faint?

Hope&Dream -- I am just saying...if you wanna take a hpt you can. Take one at 7dpo and see what it says, most likely it will be negative by then too. I always started taking them at 9dpo, or 4dp5dt and they were all negative by then. Only got a positive with one of my cycles where I was pregnant and that was at 6dp5dt, so 11dpo. with that cycle I only took one at 4 & 6dp5dt, but most likely if I had taken one at 5dp, or 10dpo it would have been positive.
I would give it a shot. If you are getting bfp at 10dpo & 11dpo then those are real positives because the trigger is out of you system by then.

For sure I'll be testing. Then they may be false negatives!!! LOL either way you'll help me obsess!!!!

[pinkin2011]

Rainbow I had a look at your pic from 8dpo.. thats how mine was at 10dpo.

HandD I used Rephresh 24 hrs before we dtd and we only dtd ONCE so I say you have a great chance at a bfp if i got one!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Pink- does it seem real yet ?? I'm hoping your right. I have a few years on you but hoping that doesn't effect me. I'm 36 got preggo this past spring (April) oops with dh pulling out! He didnt even know he "deposited" any! And no idea when O was wasn't trying at all. Was shocked when I was preggo!

[prayforprincess]

Rainbow - I know its a stretch cause your 2ww wait some weeks back, but do you remember any symptoms? Or did you feel nothing.
How about you Pinkin? I recall you said you felt next to nothing.

[~Lotus Blossom~]

Hi girls

just wondering if there are nutritional guide lines for DH in regards to sodium, protein etc, like there are for DW? I couldn't find any info on this and DH is a personal trainer and consumes large amounts of protein (no red meat though). I think his salt intake is rather high too.

[prayforprincess]

dh does not need to follow the le diet. If you want him to do something -- if he does not eat red meat (or no meat at all, even better) and tries to stay low fat that is excellent.
Paternal condition does not sway the way that maternal condition does. The objective for dh's is to lower their testosterone and sperm count.
You can lower testosterone through taking licorice root 3xday, and eating no meat and low fat. You lower sperm count by abstaining or frequent release. That is about all dh can do to help.
Oh, and most importantly, support the dw!

[HopeandDreamG]

You can also have him do cardio and not lift, if he will and I'm thinking not bc he is a personal trainer.

[pinkin2011]

It is feeling a bit more real today because i took another frer test just before at 2pm and its very much there not as dark as control but not too far off! I am 12 dpo today.

My symptoms are my boobs are so sore and feel kind of itchy inside them... cramps on left side and lower backache

[pinkin2011]

last month i had every symptom and got a bfn... I have just usual period type sysmptoms now id say.. last month i even felt so sick

[~Lotus Blossom~]

Thank you girls!

Yeah - no luck with the 'no lifting weights' thing - he wouldn't be into that at all.

DH had sperm test done a few years back and he had very low motility and low count. Would be interested to get it tested again.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey littlebairn i asked AS this recently andshe told me, that if DH stayed away from meat, eggs, garlic, and fish, and nuts that would be best so thats what i had DH do hun,

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok well i think im 5dpo today and i have cramping which i never get when not pregnant :nails: but it could be because of the clomid, it seems to be on the left at the moment so hope thats good

[littlemissnaughty7]

H&D i used a FTF of rephresh 15mins before our 2nd attempt and 8 hours before our 3rd and 4th !

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss- once dtd last night I stopped regretting the rephresh. I guess bc it was taking dh awhile to finish! Now I'm wondering how much position and depth of penetration matter. Dh likes "doggy" and he's been so sick it's not been easy to dtd, so I think it was that way or no way. What has everyone else been doing in terms of position and depth! How much do you think it matters?

[littlemissnaughty7]

i dtd missionary 3 times and he released shallow and doggy once (DH couldnt finish, to much LR) and that was shallow, well actually it fell out lol, i dont think it makes much difference hun to be fair ,

[littlemissnaughty7]

pinkin hun, when were you cramping in your right side and when were you cramping in your left ??

[amari]

Littlemiss- once dtd last night I stopped regretting the rephresh. I guess bc it was taking dh awhile to finish! Now I'm wondering how much position and depth of penetration matter. Dh likes "doggy" and he's been so sick it's not been easy to dtd, so I think it was that way or no way. What has everyone else been doing in terms of position and depth! How much do you think it matters?

Can you just do whatever position and just have him finish shallow? That is what I am going to have dh try to do.

[HopeandDreamG]

I was just worried with the clomid I had NO CM. Didn't think I'd get preggo with shallow now I think I'm finding things wrong with what I did. I thought I wouldn't do this! It's such a balance between swaying pink and getting preggo ;)

[prayforprincess]

Huge balance between getting preggo and swaying pink. You wanna do everything to stay pink but then you think to yourself "If I do this I might not get pregger's". That is why I stuck with everything I wanted to do to sway pink hard core and just did multiple attempts to increase my chances of getting pregnant.
Hopefully it worked. I am 8dpo today. I was so tempted to test this morning but I did not. I am feeling so full in my abdoman and when I pee there is pressure on my uterus. I had a tiny tiny tiny bit of brownish spotting on the tp when I wiped this morning too. I hope that is a good sign.
I better be pregger's or else my body is playing tricks on me. 3 more days til testing!

[littlemissnaughty7]

have you had any cramps PFP ?

[prayforprincess]

yes, cramping/twinges on the left side. As I sit here right now my uterus is throbbing.
It makes me wanna test tomorrow at 9dpo. I really think I am pregger's why else would I have these symptoms?
If I am not I am gonna feel so stupid.
I think if I don't test tomorrow 9dpo, I will definitley begin testing daily on Monday at 10dpo.

[rainbowflower]

pfp - sounds like a good sign! good luck!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey RF how are you what symptoms are you getting ?

[rainbowflower]

hey RF how are you what symptoms are you getting ?
hey, not getting too many symptoms! I've been freaking out the last day or so because the nausea I did have seems to have faded, as have the stretching pains.. Since having a MMC with my first pregnancy I become a nervous wreck, especially during the first trimester. I'm still worried that this baby isn't growing and my body just hasn't let me know about it yet. Praying I get offered a scan to reassure me, but there are no guarantees of that here as I haven't had any bleeding or pains!

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincress- excited for you!!! Sounds promising. Hoping this is it for you :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh RF i hope your ok hun, im sure its just nerves everyone does it we want it so much that we worry our heads off till we see a HB on a scan, im sure your little one is fine hun try not to worry, and just stay calm x

[rainbowflower]

thank you, I hope you're right! if no scan is offered next week we'll get a private one done, but would prefer to save the money. Counting down the days and they can't go fast enough!

[purple sky]

Good Morning ladies.
PFP - I hope you get your BFP in the next couple days. Cramping and spotting sound promising :) I'm also 8dpo and nothing..

Rainbow - I know it's scary after you've had a loss before. Hopefully you will get a scan so you don't have to spend the money for a private one.

H & D - I wouldn't worry too much about position especially being on clomid. I'm sure there are plenty of girls out there that were conceived without plain old missionary :wink:

[sweetsister]

ok well i think im 5dpo today and i have cramping which i never get when not pregnant :nails: but it could be because of the clomid, it seems to be on the left at the moment so hope thats good

I had cramping on the left too so maybe it is the clomid?I hope not!I also keep hearing everyone is having left sided cramps,i have had cramps almost every day thinking im getting af but still not yet and im 9 dpo today,now im wondering if clomid makes your af date longer or does it keep it the same,anyone know? So i have 2 more days til af is due and tomorrow im 10dpo testing.....i think:worry:
Who else is left to test soon?

[purple sky]

Can you just do whatever position and just have him finish shallow? That is what I am going to have dh try to do.
I don't see why not, we have done this. However, it's easier to not get aroused if it's missionary.

[purple sky]

Sweetsister and Littlemiss - Good luck on testing! I hope you both get your BFP soon :)

[prayforprincess]

OMG!!!!!!!! I am shaking as I am writing this!! I am 95% sure that I am pregnant!!!
I just went to the bathroom and when I wiped there was all this brownish/pinkish blood. Its implantation!! I have never had implantation bleeding ever -- in any of my pregnancies.
I know its not my period b/c
1. My af is not due til next Saturday 3/3
2. Af blood is bright red and this is not red, its brownish/pink
3. Its not flowing, its not even on my underwear -- its only there when I wipe.

I can't believe it!! Well, I can cause I was trying, but I am so excited. I am definitely taking a test tomorrow morning. I know it might be negative cause its still early, althought tomorrow will be 9dpo. Never had a test be positive that early but there is a first time for everything. I am so flippin excited...its my little girl!

[sweetsister]

OMG!!!!!!!! I am shaking as I am writing this!! I am 95% sure that I am pregnant!!!
I just went to the bathroom and when I wiped there was all this brownish/pinkish blood. Its implantation!! I have never had implantation bleeding ever -- in any of my pregnancies.
I know its not my period b/c
1. My af is not due til next Saturday 3/3
2. Af blood is bright red and this is not red, its brownish/pink
3. Its not flowing, its not even on my underwear -- its only there when I wipe.

I can't believe it!! Well, I can cause I was trying, but I am so excited. I am definitely taking a test tomorrow morning. I know it might be negative cause its still early, althought tomorrow will be 9dpo. Never had a test be positive that early but there is a first time for everything. I am so flippin excited...its my little girl!

Oh my goodness! Sooo exciting!!!Im stalking you now for you bfp:)

[rainbowflower]

OMG!!!!!!!! I am shaking as I am writing this!! I am 95% sure that I am pregnant!!!
I just went to the bathroom and when I wiped there was all this brownish/pinkish blood. Its implantation!! I have never had implantation bleeding ever -- in any of my pregnancies.
I know its not my period b/c
1. My af is not due til next Saturday 3/3
2. Af blood is bright red and this is not red, its brownish/pink
3. Its not flowing, its not even on my underwear -- its only there when I wipe.

I can't believe it!! Well, I can cause I was trying, but I am so excited. I am definitely taking a test tomorrow morning. I know it might be negative cause its still early, althought tomorrow will be 9dpo. Never had a test be positive that early but there is a first time for everything. I am so flippin excited...its my little girl!


how exciting!! I'd leave it a couple of days before testing - give the hCG time to rise enough to show on a test!

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks purple sky, but im not feeling it this month,

[littlemissnaughty7]

the cramps wernt cramps they were my siatica its moved again lol

[littlemissnaughty7]

omg PFP you are soooooooo gona be pregnant !!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ So excited for you!!!! Ruth Chris is wating for you! Hoping you get a line in the am! You def gonna test?

Purple~ when are you gonna test?

[dannikins]

woohoo PFP, that sounds pretty promising ...
looking forward to seeing your test!!!

good luck to everyone else about to test fingers crossed its a big BFP month!!!!

[Lassie1982]

Best of luck PFP!! And everyone else :)

We had our first attempt today! Not quiet to plan, but im excited nonetheless.

I had everything meticulously planned. I was due to get a fade in on my opk today, a temp drop tomorrow, and a positive opk tomorrow night. So the plan was to DTD today on the fade opk (to have a solid 2 day cut off) then again 2 days after +opk to have a rough attempt at o+12
INSTEAD, i got a +OPK at lunchtime today! No fade in on either test yesterday, and no temp drop either ?!?
We decided to DTD this afternoon, and will do again in 2 days time - then im in the 2WW!
So not quiet to plan, but hoping things will work out in our favour - PINK favour..

[rainbowflower]

Lassie - mother nature often throws a spanner in the works when you decide to TTC! sounds like well-timed BD to me, though! good luck

[HappyLea]

PFP ~ sounds very very promising! Hope you get your bfp soon, exciting :D

Im trying to hold off testing till at least 10dpo, i was a poas addict last month as i was certain i was pg. I dont feel anything this month though.

Good Luck ladies making attempt and :fx: for those testing soon hope to see those BFP's x

[littlemissnaughty7]

PFP have you tested yet ??

[HopeandDreamG]

Lassie~ It NEVER goes as planned on the months you attempt! Good luck

Prayforprincess~ made my kids breakfast and came on here to see if there was an update!!! Thinking of you :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

in the 2ww are you still supposed to drink coke and crystal light or should we wait till af or bfp ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

arrrgh the suspense is killing me PFP where are you !

[prayforprincess]

Thank you ladies I am thrilled.
I went online and looked up implantation bleeding (since this is the first time I ever ever experience it). It says that it most commonly happens 9dpo, and I was 8dpo. It happens roughly the same day or day after implantation occurred. I am not kidding when I say that baby must of dug a whole in there! All day yesterday I was soooo crampy, like I would have though my period was coming if I did not know that it was still one week away. Today is much better.
Everywhere I look it says that it takes 2-3 days after implantation to be in blood and 4-5 days after to show on a hpt. So I will start testing tomorrow, knowing that might still be a bit early. Will probably get my bfp on Tuesday or Wedn.
I told my mother and she say "lets just wait and see", I said "mom, I know I am. no one just randomly bleeds brown 1 weeks before their period is due and isn't pregnant, its a tell tale sign that I'm pregnant".
She says "well I told you. I just do not think all that ivf stuff agreed with your body. blah blah blah. you seem to get pregnant so easily on your own, it goes to show that all those medications just mess up a good thing." Ok mom, whatever you say.

[prayforprincess]

in the 2ww are you still supposed to drink coke and crystal light or should we wait till af or bfp ?

I still drank crystal light but not as much as I did before I o'ed. I would drink 2 qts. day before I o'ed, after o I've only drank 2-3 glasses a day and been drinking much more seltzer water.

[HopeandDreamG]

Excited for you PrayforPrincess. I am praying that I am right behind you!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

thats prob best PFP although i have no idea how you can resist to test, im gona stop the crystal light untill i get my AF as its expensive as i have to order it from the US, costs me £20 a time !

[sweetsister]

in the 2ww are you still supposed to drink coke and crystal light or should we wait till af or bfp ?

I stop until af ,i dont think its very healthy incase a baby is growing in there,or neccesary to lower ph in the 2ww either as whats done is already done:)

[littlemissnaughty7]

i agree sweet hun im gona stop till AF is here,

[littlemissnaughty7]

does anyone know what happened to sis40 ?

[HopeandDreamG]

does anyone know what happened to sis40 ?

No, and what about Katie? Did Katie say she was taking a break after last month?

[littlemissnaughty7]

i think katie was taking a break for a bit yes,

[prayforprincess]

ya I thought Katie said she was taking a break for a long bit. like til the summer or something.

I think we are gonna go the Ruth's Chris tonight. It is so much easier going tonight rather than waiting til Tuesday or Wedn. with my dh working and having to meet him in Boston etc. I figure I already know the outcome and the confirmation is only a few days away. Do you all think that is presumptuous of me?

[Mochagirl]

PFP, I really think you're going to get your BFP, and I'm not saying this to be a downer, but I had one cycle last summer where I had a wee bit of spotting around 10dpo, many days before af was due, and I was CONVINCED I was pregnant, only to end up with a BFN. Some women can have unexplained mid-cycle bleeding. That being said, I only had a drop or two, and it was more reddish than brown, so I think yours sounds much, much more promising than mine was.

So, by all means go out and enjoy a nice meal tonight - you deserve it. I'll be praying you get that BFP in a couple of days - and I think it's very, very likely you will, but make sure to protect your heart just in case it doesn't happen :HH:.

[prayforprincess]

Thanks Mocha -- I has way more than a wee bit of spotting. It was a tiny bit in the morning, then a lot in the afternoon (like all over the tp when I wipes 2-3 times). I put a liner in and there was 3-4 spots on the liner but everytime I wiped all day yesterday there was some brown spotting on the tp. Still a little this morning but it has seemed to go away by now.
I have never had any type of bleeding ever other than my af and this is not my af.
My temps are still high, the blood is brown not red and its getting lighter not heavier like an af (it was never heavy at all, just more like heavy spotting one would say). I told my husband, that embryo really dug a whole in there!

[nicoler]

Hi girls! I'm so sorry to barge in - I hope I'm not incorrect in posting here... I'm planning on beginning the le diet for my first pink attempt in May. I noticed that many of you are Dream Members and am trying to decide whether I should sign up or not. I feel like I have a relatively good idea of the diet based on the free information provided - in your opinion is it worth it to become a Dream Member for the recipes etc? I'm also interested in learning about statistics of the le diet vs. the ig diet - is this information available for members as well? Thanks, I look forward to joining in your discussions!

[HopeandDreamG]

Nicoler~ I haven't really kept close track of whats available to dream members vs. non members. Recipes def are one of them. Its really about supporting this AMAZING site. Its only $12 for the year, and worth every single penny. We also then do not have annoying ads. I would definately recommend becoming a member, you will be really glad you did when you see the wealth of info all over the site in both sections. I kind of look at like an appreciation for having all this info available to me!

[maybeoneday]

hey, not getting too many symptoms! I've been freaking out the last day or so because the nausea I did have seems to have faded, as have the stretching pains.. Since having a MMC with my first pregnancy I become a nervous wreck, especially during the first trimester. I'm still worried that this baby isn't growing and my body just hasn't let me know about it yet. Praying I get offered a scan to reassure me, but there are no guarantees of that here as I haven't had any bleeding or pains!

RF, have you had your booking appointment with the midwife yet? I would lay it on really thick that you are very anxious after the MMC and have had some pains (even if that is not strictly true....) and then just ask for an early scan? I work on the basis that with the NHS, you generally have to ask for what you want then you stand a chance of getting it! You could also probably see your GP and explain the same thing and they could refer you for an early scan?

[prayforprincess]

Its Definitely worth it to be a dream member!

Question: I am still spotting. So its been a little more than 24 hours, like 4 hours past 24 hours (28 hours). I have read up and it does say that it can last for a few hours up to 1-2 days. So I guess that is normal. Its not like I have to wear a pad or anything, just a liner and after the whole day there is only 1-2 little spots in it. There is nothing in the toilet when I pee, just when I wipe there is brownish blood on the tp. At first I was like, "wahoo implantation bleeding", but now I am like "thanks for the sign, you can go away now". Everything I looked up says its normal. It started 8dp. It is nothing close to an af. If it was an implantation gone wrong there would be A LOT of blood, like an af and there is not. Its not red, just brownish.
I guess I just want it to stop already. Thoughts.

[Mochagirl]

I agree with the others - the cost of becoming a dream member is more than worth it. Atomic has whole menus of recipe ideas available, and if you have a question you want her to answer, she always answers the questions in the member section first. When I first came to this site, I had a look around for a couple of days, saw how amazing it was, and became a member immediately. I've had zero regrets.

[nicoler]

HopeandDreamG - Thank you, I totally agree with you and think I will join for that reason alone. I stumbled across this site after reading everything on IG over a million times, but still coming away dissatisfied with what people were thinking was true. I have a science background and actually worked for several years in semen analysis and embryology, so hearing these people talk about "circle swimming sperm are X's" made me so crazy! I really appreciate the work atomic has done in her research in putting everything together. Everything about what is presented here just feels so right to follow. As an outsider, I can truly see what a caring little community this is!

[PeonyPrincess]

P4P, I am one of the unlucky people who gets spotting from 8 or 9DPO every month and it stays until AF. I hope this is not the case at all for you. I just don't know enough about clomid to know if it can happen with that. The hormones in your body at this stage can cause similar symptoms, whether you are pg or not. Really praying you get a BFP in a few days.

A quick update on my cycle...last month I had my earliest ever O at 12DPO and this month I thought it wasn't going to happen with the lack of a +OPK, but my temps now confirm that I have had my latest ever O, at 18DPO. I have been feeling pretty down about swaying in general as it is so hard to figure out what the hell my body is doing. Next month we will be on holiday, so I am hoping to just enjoy the trip and see what happens. All the best for everyone waiting to test.

[HopeandDreamG]

HopeandDreamG - Thank you, I totally agree with you and think I will join for that reason alone. I stumbled across this site after reading everything on IG over a million times, but still coming away dissatisfied with what people were thinking was true. I have a science background and actually worked for several years in semen analysis and embryology, so hearing these people talk about "circle swimming sperm are X's" made me so crazy! I really appreciate the work atomic has done in her research in putting everything together. Everything about what is presented here just feels so right to follow. As an outsider, I can truly see what a caring little community this is!

It really is a "caring community" as you say, and you won't be an outsider for long!

[HopeandDreamG]

Its Definitely worth it to be a dream member!

Question: I am still spotting. So its been a little more than 24 hours, like 4 hours past 24 hours (28 hours). I have read up and it does say that it can last for a few hours up to 1-2 days. So I guess that is normal. Its not like I have to wear a pad or anything, just a liner and after the whole day there is only 1-2 little spots in it. There is nothing in the toilet when I pee, just when I wipe there is brownish blood on the tp. At first I was like, "wahoo implantation bleeding", but now I am like "thanks for the sign, you can go away now". Everything I looked up says its normal. It started 8dp. It is nothing close to an af. If it was an implantation gone wrong there would be A LOT of blood, like an af and there is not. Its not red, just brownish.
I guess I just want it to stop already. Thoughts.

I get why you want it to stop. I would just go with it being implantation bleeding/spotting bc you have NO evidence that it is anything else.

Where you on clomid? maybe we should look up if implantation spotting is more common with clomid.

[HopeandDreamG]

Dh realized attempts for this month are over he just came home with burgers for him and the boys.... I'm hiding on the couch!!!

[pinkin2011]

PFP I hope you join me tomorrow and get your bfp!!! I will be stalking you!!

HOPE, I also hope you get your bfp , did you say you get a blood test in 11 days??

PEONY, Its so hard isnt it, trying to get everything right and when you want to ttc o changes all the time, its a real bugger!! I know my o dates changed jan and feb !

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi Pink~ yes my doc gave me a script for a blood test because I did an injection trigger. If I took a preg test now it would be positive from the injection. So HPTs won't be accurate. I was told at 7days past it could be neg that the shot was out of my system, but at 8dpo ladies have gotten BFPs so I wouldn't really know if it was a false positive or a false negative (if the shot was out of my system but I was preggo just not enough for HPT)!!!

[pinkin2011]

Oh wow, well I hope to hear some good news from you soon!!!

[sweetsister]

Its Definitely worth it to be a dream member!

Question: I am still spotting. So its been a little more than 24 hours, like 4 hours past 24 hours (28 hours). I have read up and it does say that it can last for a few hours up to 1-2 days. So I guess that is normal. Its not like I have to wear a pad or anything, just a liner and after the whole day there is only 1-2 little spots in it. There is nothing in the toilet when I pee, just when I wipe there is brownish blood on the tp. At first I was like, "wahoo implantation bleeding", but now I am like "thanks for the sign, you can go away now". Everything I looked up says its normal. It started 8dp. It is nothing close to an af. If it was an implantation gone wrong there would be A LOT of blood, like an af and there is not. Its not red, just brownish.
I guess I just want it to stop already. Thoughts.

Have your temps risen or fallen?Do you have a ff chart you can post ?

[prayforprincess]

P4P, I am one of the unlucky people who gets spotting from 8 or 9DPO every month and it stays until AF. I hope this is not the case at all for you. I just don't know enough about clomid to know if it can happen with that. The hormones in your body at this stage can cause similar symptoms, whether you are pg or not. Really praying you get a BFP in a few days.



I am not on clomid. Never taken it before. I did not take any supplements other than folic acid, and saw palmetto from af-o.
I have never, since the 17 years I have been getting my period spot brown blood, or any blood for that matter, before af has come. So this is so weird for me. If I was not trying, or did not try to get pregnant this month then I would think -- so weird. But since I dtd 5x around ovulation it seems to point to implantation bleeding. It has been a little less than 48 hours now and it is still there. Again, only when I wipe. There is a tiny smear on my lining, thats it. My temp is still high. I don't know what to think. Its not my af. I got a bfn this morning but I am not surprised -- I am only 10dpo this morning (ff says I am 9dpo, but I don't agree with when they say I o'ed). There is still time. I think this very well means that I am pregnant but again I am doing 911 freak out like I always do. Should I call my ob/gyn and ask her? All she will say is it appears to be implantation and give it a few more days to settle. I can't go in for blood 10dpo, that is too early.
I just need to get my bfp already so I can know.

[prayforprincess]

Hi Pink~ yes my doc gave me a script for a blood test because I did an injection trigger. If I took a preg test now it would be positive from the injection. So HPTs won't be accurate. I was told at 7days past it could be neg that the shot was out of my system, but at 8dpo ladies have gotten BFPs so I wouldn't really know if it was a false positive or a false negative (if the shot was out of my system but I was preggo just not enough for HPT)!!!

Yes, but it is unlikely that you would get a real bfp at 8dpo. It can happen, but highly unlikely. It takes 5 days for the fertilized egg to get to the uterus. And then it takes 1-3 days for it to implant. And then you have to wait a few days for the hcg to get in your urine ****** to get a bfp. If you are getting bfp at 11dpo or 12dpo and on...then those ARE real positives.

[prayforprincess]

Have your temps risen or fallen?Do you have a ff chart you can post ?

My temps are high. Ever since o they have been 98.4 etc. I will post it.
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/index.php

FF says that I o'ed on cd13, but I really think I o'ed on cd12 and that I am 10dpo. I got my +opk on cd11 and I have always o'ed the day after my +opk. Plus on cd12 I started to get really bloated and soar all day and it ended on cd13.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ crazy morning got get the kids to school. Came to check on you. I'd call your ob just for peace of mind. It can't hurt. I know its implantation but it can helop you feel calm if you ask the doc. Can't hurt. Will Check in later!

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok im freaking out a bit, im 7DPO today and my temp did a complete nose dive from 36.6'c to 36.3'c i dont even go that low when im about to O, so im a bit scared as my sway didnt go to plan (i dtd right on O and forgot to take citirizine !) i think i may have just conceived my 3rd boy !

[littlemissnaughty7]

well FF doesnt think ive ovulated now because of my temp dip i think its because my temps this month have been wacky i hope i did O !!

[littlemissnaughty7]

Oh wow, well I hope to hear some good news from you soon!!!

when were you cramping on your right side and then your left hun ?

[prayforprincess]

Omg littlemiss, I don't know what to say. That is so strange.

I have a call into my ob, she is calling me back this morning.

I don't know what to think. I have totally fudged up the diet ever since I saw the brown blood Saturday afternoon thinking I am pregnant. I very well might be, but without concrete proof I am a little scared.
And now I am second guessing our sway. Did we dtd too many times? My dh only did fr for 6 days prior to out 1st attempt because o came way early....5 days early, 1st time ever. At least I used rephresh 8 hours prior to our 1st attempt and did J&D, but still. And now I feel what if I am not pregnant, and I had a few cheat meals. Can I still attempt next month if I get back on the diet wagon hard core.
I am going to strictly go back to the diet today until I get my confirmed bfp. I just don't know what to think right now. I don't even really know if I am 9 or 10dpo. I think 10, ff thinks 9 -- I hate all this.
Whatever happens, I better have a girl or I'll be beyond crushed.

[littlemissnaughty7]

i know how you feel PFP im doing the exact same im not sure if i O or not, did you get a temp dip at all this cycle ?

[HopeandDreamG]

Omg littlemiss, I don't know what to say. That is so strange.

I have a call into my ob, she is calling me back this morning.

I don't know what to think. I have totally fudged up the diet ever since I saw the brown blood Saturday afternoon thinking I am pregnant. I very well might be, but without concrete proof I am a little scared.
And now I am second guessing our sway. Did we dtd too many times? My dh only did fr for 6 days prior to out 1st attempt because o came way early....5 days early, 1st time ever. At least I used rephresh 8 hours prior to our 1st attempt and did J&D, but still. And now I feel what if I am not pregnant, and I had a few cheat meals. Can I still attempt next month if I get back on the diet wagon hard core.
I am going to strictly go back to the diet today until I get my confirmed bfp. I just don't know what to think right now. I don't even really know if I am 9 or 10dpo. I think 10, ff thinks 9 -- I hate all this.
Whatever happens, I better have a girl or I'll be beyond crushed.

Honestly, I am not surprised you are feeling like this..only because I have seen every single one of us including myself start to critize our sways in the 2 ww. The truth is you did everything you COULD do to sway girl and get pregnant. I "know" you well enough by reading all your posts you are hard core about this (as am I, lol)...you did a FAB sway do not rip it apart. Doing increased attempts just increases chances of a BFP not of a boy. I will be in a straight jacket if I conceive a boy so we'll be confined together- no worries ;)

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh and BTW my car smelt like burgers this morning. DH took my car to get them last night..really you have to be kidding!

[littlemissnaughty7]

what is with the left cramps could be girl and right cramps could be boy ?

[HopeandDreamG]

ok im freaking out a bit, im 7DPO today and my temp did a complete nose dive from 36.6'c to 36.3'c i dont even go that low when im about to O, so im a bit scared as my sway didnt go to plan (i dtd right on O and forgot to take citirizine !) i think i may have just conceived my 3rd boy !

Implantation dip perhaps? Temp can be so unreliable especially on clomid. My temp is all over the place, I think the clomid and last night took 2 tylenol because I was 99. This morning my temp was 97.5 usually my pre O temp and I def O'd with clomid and injection, so I wouldn't worry. DTD at O does not give you a boy. Recent study more girls conceived on O day, and the citrizine is no biggie especially being on clomid you shouldn't even be taking it!

[Mochagirl]

Oh and BTW my car smelt like burgers this morning. DH took my car to get them last night..really you have to be kidding!

That's just plain cruel. I banned all of my favourite foods from the house while I was on the diet. If DH ever came home with burgers, I would have made him eat them on the porch in the snow!

[Mochagirl]

Honestly, I am not surprised you are feeling like this..only because I have seen every single one of us including myself start to critize our sways in the 2 ww. The truth is you did everything you COULD do to sway girl and get pregnant. I "know" you well enough by reading all your posts you are hard core about this (as am I, lol)...you did a FAB sway do not rip it apart. Doing increased attempts just increases chances of a BFP not of a boy. I will be in a straight jacket if I conceive a boy so we'll be confined together- no worries ;)

Well said. Every single one of us questions our sway after the fact - I know I did all 3 times I've swayed and gotten pregnant. There's no such thing as a perfect sway anyway - we just have to do the best we can and leave the rest up to fate. Oh, and I'll be joining you ladies in the loony bin if this little bean ends up being a boy too :bigsmile:

[prayforprincess]

what is with the left cramps could be girl and right cramps could be boy ?

Ramzi thoery. It states that if the placenta is on the left side of the uterus then its a girl and on the right is a boy. It is thought that if you ovulate on the left it is more likely to implant on the left hence a girl. Twinges on the left, implantation on the left -- more likely a girl.
Not sure how much we all believe it though.

[littlemissnaughty7]

why is it not very reliable ? have you heard conflicting stories ?

[atomic sagebrush]

Because you can't tell on the basis of O pain what side you Oed from!!!

Also, the thing with Ramzi is, there may be something there BUT the problem is that 99% of ultrasound techs know nothing about it, do not know what you mean when you ask 'what side the placenta is on' (like, my right, or your right? :p) and also you have to have the u/s at a certain stage of pg, no later, or it is unreliable because the placenta moves. So all those things added together means that we get this grainy photo from a tech who has no clue what we're after and doesn't know what we're talking about and then it's just really hard to interpret how that matches up with Ramzi's theory.

[Mochagirl]

Does Ramzi's theory only include placenta placement, or is it also linked to the side of ovulation? My ultrasound indicated that I ovulated from the left side (based on a corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary), though I have no clue where my placenta is.

[sweetsister]

Well i dont really believe that theory because with both my boys one was the right and the other was the left,and i know this because my doctor brought it up when i was pregnant with my second she specifically mentioned oh look its the other side this time ,as she keeps all my ultrasound records and looked it up for me,i find it hard to believe that gender would make it choose a certain side?Just seems strange,but i guess we cant really know right?

[Mochagirl]

Oh, I agree, sweetsister - no theory is 100%. I've heard of women with only one tube who still have both genders. I was just curious if side of ovulation is part of Ramzi's theory or whether it's from another study.

[purplepoet20]

DS1 was in the middle top area and DS2 was middle cervics area... so who knows what happened with me!

[prayforprincess]

Thank you Mocha and Hope&Dream. You made me smile and its comforting to know someone understands. Everyone thinks I am looney and sometimes I think I am too.

[prayforprincess]

Does Ramzi's theory only include placenta placement, or is it also linked to the side of ovulation? My ultrasound indicated that I ovulated from the left side (based on a corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary), though I have no clue where my placenta is.

Nope, has nothing to do with which side you ovulated from. People just assume that if you ovulate from the left it is most likely going to implant on the left/placenta will be on the left hence a girl. But you could ovulate form the right and it implants on the left. That is totally possible. His theory states nothing about which side you ovulate -- that is just a bunch of women conjuring up their own thoughts and opinion. It is all about: between 6-8 weeks of pregnancy, is the placenta on the left side of your uterus or the right?
Atomic is right, the u/s tech needs to know what is the right and left side of your uterus and not the mirror image or her left or right etc. It has to be YOUR left or YOUR right side. Most tech's do not care about theories, are grumpy and will not appease us of our curiosity properly. That does not mean you still can't try.

Tho I have to agree with Sweetsister and say that it is kinda wierd that gender can be determined by which side the placenta is on. As if the embryo knows its a girl and to go to the left side. I don't have much faith myself in good old Ramzi.

[auroara78]

I agree 200% percent with Atomic & Pray for princess!

/waves to everyone else! Hope n Dreams LOVE your new ticker!!

[pinkin2011]

LMN7... I started getting pains in my right side i think 6dpo then I was getting alot of pain in my left side ever since then... I forgot to mention my cm was different from about 6dpo aswell. I did get a few kind of yellowish blobs on the toilet paper which made me think AND my cm was just different down there in texture.

[PeonyPrincess]

P4P, sorry to get muddled. So many seemed to be on clomid this month that I thought you were too! I think you did a brilliant sway. And your spotting sounds like implantation bleeding to me. I just know that once last year when it first happened to me I was convinced I was pg, and then I wasn't. Like Mocha said, just protect your heart a little in case. I will be jumping up and down with you and everyone else when you get your BFP.I don't like to say 'you so deserve it', because obviously everyone on here does, but after we read all that you have been through we just want it all to work out perfectly for you.

[littlemissnaughty7]

well i think the clomid is giving me side affects this time i keep having really hot flushes the last 2 nights and terrible sickness feeling the last 3 nights, never had that with the other 3 times i took it in the past, must be getting old lol,

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks for clearing all that up about the ramzi and side of ovulation pain thing i thought they were linked but it seems there not,

[prayforprincess]

I am in such a mood. I don't understand why I am doubting myself so badly. I feel I am totally pregnant it is just a matter of days before my bfp. Maybe I am not, but I would be surprised. And it feels so final. Like I will not even be that excited when I see the bfp because I know it is over, done, finished. I can't go back and change anything -- and if its a boy I need to accept that my dream will never come true and I don't know how to do that. Its like I don't want to know because I want to keep alive the hope that maybe one day I will have my daughter. Once I know, I will either be overjoyed beyond what any words can describe; or completely crushed knowing I will forever have a missing piece of myself. I love my boys more than words can say, but I will always hold a piece of me that will wonder what she looked like, how much she would have changed my boys and my husband and how much she would have just completed my life in a way no other can. I know you know what I am talking about -- it has nothing to do with what I have and everything to do with what I don't have. My girlfriend told me today -- look at all the sick and dying children in the hospital and just be grateful that is not you. I know that...don't you think i know that?? I feel like that has nothing to do with my desire for a daughter. Of course I would be grateful for a healthy boy, but that doe snot make me miss the daughter I will never have any less. She is having her 2nd girl in 1 month and she told me that she would have like to have a boy but she is not and it is what it is -- she can't change it so why dwell on it. Most people are like that but I am not. Some people want it but can move forward so easily without it. I want it more than words can describe, its like I need it -- and I can't so easily move forward without her.
Sorry to vent -- I am just feeling down. I know its silly and I pray I have a happy ending -- that we all do.

[Mochagirl]

Hugs, pfp - we've all been there. This is definitely my last baby, and I'm terrified of the finality of it all.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ Its NOT silly..NOT silly at all. I could have written your post. Its annoying when friends make statements like that it doesn't actually help although I think they are trying to help. Our problems are all relative of course, someone else can and does have it worse but that does not minimize our problems. And honestly if your friend had two boys she may actually also have GD. I've meet many women that say if they had all boys they'd have GD but wouldn't if they had all girls. Point is she doesn't really know how she would feel.
And on another note I told my DH this a few days ago after I get my BFP I'm going to then be nervous about the gender, when it possible to detect the gender I will be shaking going into the doctors office.

Auoara~ thanks for noticing the ticker. I'm liking it too!!!

Littlemiss~ maybe because of the hot flashes is why your temp is all over the place.

Hello everyone else!

[coocoobananas]

I too will feel the same way. It's why I have put off even considering trying because I could just leave it an open dream and have no regrets. But eventually they would be cause I would hit menopause and always wonder!! Remember you had to try to possibly get what you wanted and it's the only way to know! Lately I have been think when I try that I want a bfn so that I can just have what I have as I know what I already have is awesome and why mess with it!! I was at a friends last night and she now has 3 teenage stepsons. I was like if I get this bfp, that will be me! My gut tells me that but yet I feel the need to try! They were so cool though and the oldest was leaning on his youngest brothers shoulder on the couch lovingly and I thought who the hell cares what I get in the end! Three brothers will be pretty awesome!! I know I will be as nervous as you so I'll wait til he's born to find out! I wish you the pinkest bfp!!!

[amari]

Hi ladies. sorry I haven't been posting much. I have been coming on and reading and keeping up with you. It is nice to know we all have the exact same feelings and can relate. I know what you are all going through and hope you all find the peace and contentment you deserve, (preferably through a dg). :hugs:

[HopeandDreamG]

Ok this may sound ridiculous and I am totally not a symptom spotter but I have been beyond thirsty today- all day & last night had a little heart burn when I was going to bed. I O'd anywhere from Friday at noon to Friday midnight.
R these signs or am I bonkers to even think they could b related to a bfp in my near future!!

[prayforprincess]

They could be hope&Dream. I am dying of thirst always. I drank 3 liters of water today.
I was sitting on the couch watching bachelor tonight and all I kept thinking about was how nervous I am to have another boy. 4 Boys!! I would want to still try for that girl only am almost positive I cannot because of already having 3 complicated c-sections. My ob was not psyched about me wanting a 4th but knew how badly I wanted a daughter. She warned me that this time there could be complications on the delivery table -- with myself, not the baby. I was willing to take that chance to have a daughter. I am sorry, I feel like I can't get this out of my mind now and I can't be happy about my bfp until I know it is her in there.
I feel just terrible for even thinking that. What is wrong with me?

[pinkin2011]

I dont think its horrible you thinking that because I am keeping that secret too... You know I have already told myself its a boy... I just feel it naturally would be and i just would never have a girl!

[littlemissnaughty7]

PFP you are 100% exactly like me you just took all those words right out of my mouth, i feel smashed about my sway because it didnt go to plan, i wish i could take it all back and start again but i cant, why did i dtd on O day and why the hell didnt i take citirizine arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh, thats all i think about and the fact we dtd 4 times one 4-0, one on O, then O+1 and ive broke out in a huge spot this morning great just what i want thanks lol, and 0+3 as i thought i was O'ing late, but i can prob discard that last one, and prob the 0+4 as i used a whole app of rephresh in the am, only time will tell hey !

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok call me crazy but i just took a test and i think its a + !!!!!!!!!

[pinkin2011]

OH WOW!! how many dpo are you?? was it a frer?

[PeonyPrincess]

Oh I hope so LMN7. This is shaping up to be a good month! FX for you!

[rainbowflower]

PFP you are 100% exactly like me you just took all those words right out of my mouth, i feel smashed about my sway because it didnt go to plan, i wish i could take it all back and start again but i cant, why did i dtd on O day and why the hell didnt i take citirizine arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh, thats all i think about and the fact we dtd 4 times one 4-0, one on O, then O+1 and ive broke out in a huge spot this morning great just what i want thanks lol, and 0+3 as i thought i was O'ing late, but i can prob discard that last one, and prob the 0+4 as i used a whole app of rephresh in the am, only time will tell hey !

ooh congrats on the VFP!
don't worry about DTDing on OV day, it doesn't sway either way. Look at Zanacal - she did one single attempt on OV day and got a girl!
Did you release+discard between the O-4 and the O day attempts?

[sweetsister]

ok call me crazy but i just took a test and i think its a + !!!!!!!!!

OOOOH LETS SEE LETS SEE!:running:

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks guys im shaking lol, RF we abstained for 2 weeks, then on the 0-4 thinking it was O day he released at work and i TBM when i got home, then he di FR 2 x a day until our O attempt and the same on 0+12 and the 0+3 days attempt he FR 3 x that day,

[littlemissnaughty7]

il get my camera when i get home and take pics,

[pinkin2011]

How exciting!! Cant wait to see

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss- yay yay yay yay. Can't wait to see a pic!! How many dpo are you! So excited :)

[amari]

Congrats, littlemiss!!!!!

[Myloves]

Congrats to you Littlemiss!

[prayforprincess]

That is so exciting! How many dpo are you? This is super early, no? What test are you using?

I took a test this am, bfn. Not sure I expected anything different -- I have never ever gotten an early bfp. And this brown spotting is still there. In a few hours it will be 3 days. I looked it up, I canlled my ob -- they think it is pregnancy but it is too soon to know for sure. She says it can last for 3 days sometimes longer. As long as it is not heavy or I need to wear a pad/tampon, that would mean af. Totally not, still just a liner I don't even have to change if I don't want to. Only brownish when I wipe. WTF! I feel like since this has been going on for nearly 3 days I should have my bfp by now. Tho everything says it can take up to 4-5 days after implantation to show up on a hpt.
I kinda wanna drive to my ob's office and take a blood test just to know. You think it would show on a blood test?

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~How many dppo are you? If its not too early, and you go you could actually have them fax you a script for blood work, so you can go straight to a lab (since docs have to send it out anyway), have them right STAT on it and you'll know by this afternoon. Just don't know how many dpo you are if it would show. Call your doc they may not even want too, and will for sure know if it will show.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hey peeps thanks very much, well it wont show on my camera arghhhhh, but i still think its there, im hoping its not an evap line, i also took a clearblue digital and it was "not pregnant" so now im second guessing the test, it was a clearblue plus pregnancy test, its supposed to be an early test too, im 8 dpo today, i guess il wait till tomorrow to be sure,

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss 8dpo is really super early, keeping everything crossed for you today.

[HappyLea]

:fx: ladies, hope to see those BFP's soon.

Im 7dpo today and poas this morning and got a BFN, even though i know it wont show anything this early anyways but i get the urge i have to do it! Argh...my will power i 0 when it comes to poas!!! I have a little lower back pain today but not reading too much into it after last month.

I have been running round town like a crazy women this morning trying to find an outfit for my DS1 to dress up for world book day on Thursday at school, what a pain. I thought pinocchio wont be hard to find red shorts, yellow t shirt and make blue bow tie, how wrong was i?? No red shorts/yellow t shirt anywhere, looked in loads of shops boy and girl parts but nothing, so ended up getting him a peter pan/robin hood outfit...he can pick which one he wants to be....lol!

[prayforprincess]

Littlemiss- Hopefully we will both see a clear bfp tomorrow morning!

[auroara78]

Hoping to see some clear strong BFPs tomorrow and the next few days! C'mon ladies!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Amari~ March is coming...you getting excited??

[mydream]

prayforprincess- i had the same thing when i get preg with my second- some brown spotting..not AF ..AF never came and I was prego! Good luck... praying for you.

[littlemissnaughty7]

have felt a bit sick today, cant be surely pregnancy symptoms if indeed i am pregnant, must be from the clomid,

[KraizyDaizy]

CD8 and 4th day of Clomid and I feel like I have a Clomid hangover. I honestly feel like I am in a fog today. One more pill and maybe just maybe no more of this roller-coaster drug.

Hoping to see BFP's tomorrow. Implant baby girls, implant for your mommas! :pregnant:

[suregena]

Hey, all. Still no AF. Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Oh, the insanity!

Do you think I should just take vitex in hopes it starts it up? Is that dumb? I'm thinking of taking vitex AF to O from now until our May attempt in hopes it sort of doesn't cause the mess that happened. I don't know if vitex 5 weeks straight or dropping weight caused this super long cycle or not, but I'm so done right now. I want my period so I can start taking bbt and planning for may! Grrrrrrrr!!!! :(

[littlemissnaughty7]

well my DH thinks its an evap line, and now i do too, im so sorry to of come on here saying i think i had a positive coz now im not sure at all,

[littlemissnaughty7]

i would start vitex hun yeah but check with AS first and get her opinion,

[prayforprincess]

WTF! This spotting will not end. Thought it was ending last night. There was only the tiniest bit of brown when I wiped. Now this morning - red spotting. Still only need a panty line -- no pad or tampon. Its was there when I wiped and a little in the toilet. 1-2 hours later went to the bathroom and nothing on the liner, nothing in the toilet and just a tiny bit of red on the tp.
What is going on??? The doctor says everything points to implantation. The timing, the intensity (its not heavy or increasing like an af would). My temp is still up in the 98's. I am only 10/11dpo. But no bfp yet. I was thinking to stop drinking tonight at 5pm so that my pee is more concentrated in the morning when I take the hpt. Yesterday I was soooo thirsty I drank nearly 4 liters of water. This morning when I took the test my pee was very very light -- so it could have been diluted.
I don't know -- I just want to know WTF is going on it there. This has never happened before -- never have I had implantation bleeding and never have I spotted for 3 days 1 week before my af was due.
Doctor says that if I don't get a +hpt or my af by Monday I should come in.
Come on bfp....if I could just see you that would explain soooo much! Why can't anything be easy or go right?? I swear, I can never just catch a break!

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess- I have high hopes for you. I bet tomorrow am you will have your bfp. I've looked this up bc yesterday I could not stop drinking water. I'd get out of bed, go downstairs to get a glass of water and be half way up the stairs and the glass was done. I did this several times and looked up that as early as 2 dpo thirst can b an early preg sign. Hang in there.

[Mochagirl]

Hope - I really hope it IS a pregnancy sign for you! :luck:

PFP - I'm sure that BFP is just around the corner for you.

[HopeandDreamG]

PrayforP-And you've said yourself you never get early bfps. And I promised i'd remind u. I'm doing that now :)

Mocha- thanks I hope so too!

[prayforprincess]

H&D - You are so great!
Just came home from dropping my son at pre-school and now the spotting is gone again. Its here, then gone. Its brown, then red, then brown. I hope it stays gone now and I get my bfp in the morning.

I am sooo hungry. I wanna eat so bad. I had 2 or 3 cheat meals this weekend but I am trying to still be on the diet 80% til I find out if I am pregger's or not. And I was starving this morning so I made some egg whites at 10am. Then I couldn't control myself and ate a rice krispy treat at noon. I am starving again but am refusing to let myself eat til 5pm. I wish I was not sooo hungry.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ Stay away spotting. Enough, we know you are implanting but your scaring momma!!! What you ate is not bad at all for this far along in the 2 WW- the egg whites will not raise your glucose, and the krispie treat was at noon. I'm hungry too and my 2 WW just started. Dh wants to go to dinner Friday night 7dpo, when it gets closer I'll decide. I was thinking I'd still stay vegeterian, get a salad, prob eat too much bread, and share a brownie sundae. Ahhh maybe not. I don't know. Will see.

Kraisy~ Good luck this cycle!!

Suregena~ I cannot believe AF is still not here. I'd want to know why....

I've been a gender dreaming addict today I gotta go be productive. In my office soon anyway!! Ttyl ladies...i'm still thirsty by the way....Its our month PFP!!! (and more of us from the feb thread) OK i'm really signing off now!!

[prayforprincess]

So my sis-in-law sent me this and it really eased my mind:

How long after implantation bleeding can I expect a positive pregnancy test? "Implantation" refers to the embryo attaching itself to the uterus. Sometimes women experience spotting or even light bleeding as the embryo burrows deep into the lining. (Some don't; either is normal.) This process can happen in a day, but in some cases, takes a full 4 days for the embryo to completely attach. Implantation generally occurs between 6-12 days following ovulation/conception, with the majority (over 80%) occurring between 8-10 days past ovulation (DPO.)

Once implantation is complete, the embryo begins producing hCG, the pregnancy hormone. It usually takes about 2-4 days for the implanted embryo to begin producing hCG at a high enough level to be detected by a sensitive pregnancy test. So, if you have experienced spotting or bleeding, and you believe it may be related to implantation, you should probably wait about 2-4 days to test (using a sensitive, early-detection test that measures at 25 mIU/mL or lower. If you are using a test that is less sensitive, allow more time. See the HPT Overview for a list of various HPT sensitivity levels.) It is possible to experience a negative test at this point and still be pregnant; if so, wait another couple of days to allow the hCG to build up in your system to a level high enough to be detected, and test again.

Pheww! So it appears for now the bleeding has just stopped. So this little bugger has taken 3 days to implant! I will wait til Friday to test now. That will give my body 2 1/2 days after implantation to get that hcg up. Most likely won't get a positive til Saturday now. But at least its looking up, and it appears I may be having a positive weekend!

[prayforprincess]

I just came across a study that says it was PROVEN that a women carrying a female fetus has higher hcg level than those carrying males. This could mean that women carrying females are able to detect pregnancy earlier. Tomorrow I am 11dpo -- if I have to wait much longer for my bfp I am scared I am having a boy. I know with all my other pregnancies I got late bfp's (other than my ht pregnancy with twin girls which was an early bfp at 10dpo).

Do any of you ladies recall -- What day past ovulation did you get your first bfp with your boys??

[pinkin2011]

I was 14 or 15 dpo with my ds but that was a clear blue test that was to be used from day of af and it was so faint but i think i did get a earlier bfp this time around because the digi was saying 2-3 weeks day of expected af... who knows tho back then what would of happened if i used a frer

[Mochagirl]

I got my BFP at 8dpo with my twins and 11dpo with ds3. With my Sept pregnancy it was 9 dpo, but I don't know what my angel's gender was. This time I got my BFP at 10dpo.

[amari]

prayforprincess-I was sooo thirsty when I was pregnant with ds1 and had bright red implantation bleeding. FX for you!

hopeanddream-Yes! Getting very excited! I didn't o on my own this month, so I think I am randomly going to take the prover to try and get my period starting on the 4th, day after ds1's b-day, which I have to take for 10 days, then I will hopefully get my af a day or so after that, then clomid on days 5-9. So, I may not even o until April after it's all added up! I didn't O until cd 21 before! If it all goes down roughly the same that is like, April 4th!

[laughinglynxie]

With my son, it was 13 dpo and very faint. I didn't get as tired or as sick as I am right now.

With this new pregnancy, it was 10dpo.

[Cailinalainn]

:think: My temp went down this morning, 10 dpo. I'm gutted. I really felt pregnant. I had abandoned the diet during the 2ww cos I was so sick of it and so naively confident.

I had been doing the IG diet and only discovered this site during this attempt so I've to start my research all over again now and jump-start in.

Will take a day to come to terms with the BFN first. :tissue:

[PeonyPrincess]

With my son, it was 13 dpo and very faint. I didn't get as tired or as sick as I am right now.

With this new pregnancy, it was 10dpo.

Laughing, I didn't realise you got a BFP!! Congratulations, that is fantastic. Sorry you are feeling a bit sick, but at least you know it is for a good cause.

[PeonyPrincess]

:think: My temp went down this morning, 10 dpo. I'm gutted. I really felt pregnant. I had abandoned the diet during the 2ww cos I was so sick of it and so naively confident.

I had been doing the IG diet and only discovered this site during this attempt so I've to start my research all over again now and jump-start in.

Will take a day to come to terms with the BFN first. :tissue:

Cail, that sucks. Could the temp dip be an implantation dip or is it drastically low? I know what it is like to be convinced it will be a BFP, only to get BFNs. If you do end up needing to try again in March, rest assured I will be right there with you!

[sweetsister]

:think: My temp went down this morning, 10 dpo. I'm gutted. I really felt pregnant. I had abandoned the diet during the 2ww cos I was so sick of it and so naively confident.

I had been doing the IG diet and only discovered this site during this attempt so I've to start my research all over again now and jump-start in.

Will take a day to come to terms with the BFN first. :tissue:

I am with you im 13 dpo 2 days late for af so was starting to feel a spark of hope and my temp this morning dropped:tissue: I also ditched the diet during the 2ww so i might even have to take a break Again!!!
But .....AF isnt here YET Daa daaa daaaaa dum,im hoping someone will chime in with a story of having temp drop at 13dpo that ended up being pregnant?Im grasping at straws here arent it?:sad:

[prayforprincess]

I am so sorry girls for the bfn and temp drop. I have also fudged up the diet a bit in my 2ww.
11dpo and bfn this morning. Not sure I expected any different yet since the bleeding only stopped yesterday, but I was hoping for a surprise.
Now I am freaked out that if I am pregnant its a boy, cause it took so long to implant and as is, the soonest I would get a bfp is 12dpo - tho probably not til 13 or 14. My temp was still high this am, 98.46 - so that is positive. Al my gf's that have girls got their bfp's earlier than af was due. I'll be getting it when af is due, if I get it at all. I am not starting off with good signs.

Are we moving over to the March forum?? I should probably start posting over there.

[prayforprincess]

Should I go get a blood test this morning? I would have the results by 4pm this afternoon (eastern time). I know, I am the most impatient person ever!
I am 11dpo -- says ff. Is that soon enough to pick up the hcg in my blood? The implantation bleeding (if that is what it was, tho it 100% appeared to be) only stopped yesterday. There is a reason ht patients have to wait til 14dpo to have their blood taken. But at 14dpo they like to see your blood level over 100. So even if mine was 100 minimum on Saturday, it should be over 30 at least today. It just has not reached my urine ****** yet? Why am I obsessing -- because I want to eat normal again that is why.
I am truly driving myself and probably all of you crazy!!

[sweetsister]

Should I go get a blood test this morning? I would have the results by 4pm this afternoon (eastern time). I know, I am the most impatient person ever!
I am 11dpo -- says ff. Is that soon enough to pick up the hcg in my blood? The implantation bleeding (if that is what it was, tho it 100% appeared to be) only stopped yesterday. There is a reason ht patients have to wait til 14dpo to have their blood taken. But at 14dpo they like to see your blood level over 100. So even if mine was 100 minimum on Saturday, it should be over 30 at least today. It just has not reached my urine ****** yet? Why am I obsessing -- because I want to eat normal again that is why.
I am truly driving myself and probably all of you crazy!!

I think honestly you should wait it out until af is due,,,if you can it is only a few days away and you should know for sure right?But if you are driving yourself mad with wondering and worry then get blood drawn.And dont be asking me about eating normal again i would just say do it because i myself have caved and been off the diet in the 2ww,:holysheep:but ive been strict for too many months i just couldnt take it anymore:whip:

[prayforprincess]

Ya, I just need to wait til this weekend. It's driving me mad though.

And I was just thinking, af is due Sunday. So FRER says it can detect 6 days before a missed period at the earliest -- that would be yesterday.
And today is only 5 days before my missed period so its not unusual that it would still be a bfn.
The box says most will get a bfp on 4 days before missed period. So here is to hoping for a bfp tomorrow - although it would still only be 1.5 days after spotting ended. I can still hope.

Sorry girls -- I know I am so annoying. Thanks for putting up with me.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all well im gutted took a frer this morning and BFN the clearblue yesterday was a false positive, im not even sure i ovulated as my temps are a mess, does anyone know how long baby can take to implant ???

[atomic sagebrush]

Little Miss, remember that temping on Clomid is not reliable - can someone find that thread for me, it was about a week and a half ago and people were comparing notes on their Clomid temps??

Baby takes 7-10 days to implant and it can take a couple days after that to make enough HCG for a pg test to implant. Also, sometimes your urine is just too diluted to detect the hormone in the pee even if it's present in your blood. Not to offer false hope but just so you know that one BFN does not always mean you're not pg.

[HappyLea]

prayingforprincess ~ your not annoying, its so hard this waiting game. Hope you get your BFP soon x

littlemissnaughty7 ~ i think i have read that implantation can happen any time from 5dpo - 12dpo, not sure if that is correct.

Well i was ill last night throat felt like i was swallowing razor blade, headache etc so went bed early couldnt sleep tho, got few sharp pinching pains in lower right abdomen. Woke up feeling pants but i have perked up. But when sat on sofa few hours ago got sharp pinching pains in my left lower abdomen. Literally only lasted few seconds but my lower back been aching today also. Had alot worse than this last month and was convinced i was pg but wasnt so wont read too much into it.

Hope to see some BFP's soon x

[littlemissnaughty7]

my temps on my last 3 clomid cycles were all a breeze though so i was expecting the same i think, thanks il try and stay positive, AS do you know anything about the idea that PFP is talking about, that boys take much longer to get a BFP with then girls do ?? i got a BFP with my DS2 at 9dpo !

[prayforprincess]

Littlemiss- Its a study done. I posted a thread on ttc boy -- you should take a look. Atomic posted on it.http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-boy/8780-what-dpo-did-you-get-your-bfp-your-dds.html
The study is true but the numbers are average, meaning that there are definitely many, many people out of the box. Many women having girls can still have low numbers and boys still have high numbers. Also, if you read the essay (again posted on that thread) you will see that the numbers are roughly the same at 14 & 15dpo. They don't start to show significant differences til 18, 19 & 20dpo. So truly, when one gets their bfp has no baring on the gender of the embryo, since we all usually get our bfp on or by 14-15dpo.
Its the numbers a week from there that showed a difference.

Stay strong. It is still so early -- you are only 9dpo yes? I am 11 and still bfn but I have high hopes I should see a positive by Saturday or Sunday. Believe me I know how hard the waiting game is, but it does take up to 4-5 days after implantation is complete to get a bfp. Hang in there.

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks PFP hun, its just i got my hopes up so much yesterday an now i feel like an idiot,

[prayforprincess]

Come on now??? What the f*^# is going on??? I just got outta the shower and there was some more dark dark red blood. It had totally stopped since 2 pm yesterday and now this?? I need a drink - a martini at 11am..I really mean it.
Now I have a liner on AGAIN and there is nothing. Just went to wipe and still nothing. I don't freakin get it??? Why is this happening to me. No bfp yet!! At least if I had something to hang onto.
I don't know how good this is looking. I know its not af because my temp was 98.46 this morning and is not due for another 4 days.
I have totally fudged the diet -- not skipping meals and lowering glucose. At an eggwhite scramble this am with onions and peppers. I mean, I am staying low calorie low fat, but not watching my foods and sodium.
If I have to ttc next month I am literally eating white rice and green beans from af-o -- taking on only 1000 calories a day tops.
I am so discouraged. I don't know what to think now. What is going on??? I wish I has some answer's. Nothing ever like this has happened to me. I hate this.

[suregena]

CD56 is now CD1!!! WAHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! :running: I actually squeezed happy sounds in the bathroom when I saw the blood. How morbid! Haha!

I'll be back TTC in May. I wish all you girls until then the best of luck!

I think I'll start taking vitex AF to o starting today... I really don't want a repeat when it comes down to it in May! Think I should or wait until 6 weeks before?

[sweetsister]

Well Af came i guess ill see it on over to March best of luck to ones waiting to test:)
Prayforprincess i had such a bad cycle last month due to stress or the diet is unknown but i had the brown spotting for 2 days then a very light af 2 days and not to mention it all started about 9 days before af was due so i wouldnt rule it out, it scared the **** out of me but i guess it is the stress im doing to myself! I really ,really hope for you your stops and you get your bfp though :)

[suregena]

Haha... Squealed, even! Stupid iPhone auto correct!

[Mochagirl]

Haha... Squealed, even! Stupid iPhone auto correct!

:rofl: I was wondering what exactly you squeezed to get those happy sounds!

Anyway, YAY for af! I'm sooooo happy you're finally on to a new cycle!! :cheerteam:

I'd definitely start Vitex right away if I were you, though maybe atomic will chime in.

[amari]

Sorry, sweetsister-I'll be with you! Hugs.

praying-hang in there, the 2ww is rough.

[prayforprincess]

Well Af came i guess ill see it on over to March best of luck to ones waiting to test:)
Prayforprincess i had such a bad cycle last month due to stress or the diet is unknown but i had the brown spotting for 2 days then a very light af 2 days and not to mention it all started about 9 days before af was due so i wouldnt rule it out, it scared the **** out of me but i guess it is the stress im doing to myself! I really ,really hope for you your stops and you get your bfp though :)
Oh, so sorry for that nasty af showing her ugly face.
I had the brown spotting for 3 days - only needed to wear 1 panty liner a day ... thats how little it was.
Then yesterday and today is just 45 minutes of bleeding then nothing for 24 hours. Repeat. So weird. Its not like I am bleeding all day. Just for 1 hour then its gone for 24 hours. And that 1 hour is not that much, but enough for me to definitely notice when I go to the bathroom.

Anyhow -- I am turning over to the March forum.

[Lassie1982]

Hang in there Praying for Pink!!!!

It still sounds promising...fingers crossed for you hun that you get a BFP really soon!

Best of luck and pink dust in March to all the feb BFN's!!!

And congrats again on the Feb BFP's

Im done and dusted with my attempts and am officially in the 2ww. I has ZERO early symptons with DS and no implant bleed so im not expecting any early signs, but will no doubt still scrutinise every little thing my body does / feels.

Will be starting to POAS 8DPO, so in a weeks time (im an addict!) Stocked up on FRER, DH doesnt get it "cant you wait till period is due? Thats much cheaper!"

[dannikins]

PFP.
i wouldnt worry about late implanting meaning boy.
my last pregnancy was an obvious BFP 9DPO and he is all boy.
and the one before him was 10 dpo, also a boy....

not sure with this one, as i didnt test untill 12 dpo...

also the testing times, vary depending on your LP.
my LP is longer, about 18 days, so my last pregnancy was a BFP 9 DPO, which was also 9 days before AF was due.

[HopeandDreamG]

Sweetsister~ sorry about AF

Suregena~ So happy for you that AF finally showed. Did you say 56 days OMG!!! I might wait till 6 weeks before and take the vitex straight through.

Been over in March missed some of these posts. Will be over there!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Oh hooray Suregena! You must be so relieved. I would take vitex from now until your attempt in May. Straight through, not AF to O, as you are not TTC until then. Make the most of it.

Sweetsister, I'll see you in the March thread- sorry AF arrived.

See everyone over in March from now on. Can't believe it's March already!