TTC Girl - February 2012

[littlemissnaughty7]

im always here for you hun and every one else too :bighug:

well i dont know whats going on with me now my first response opks are now negative !! i was gona keep taking them until i got a smiley on my digital which i havent WTH is going on !!! i didnt have much pee in the pot this time i had to lie the test down for the pee to go over the absorbant tip, any one know what could of happened ??

[lemon2012]

Kd..I was totally thinking of you today...you have to get a bfp...:)
12 dpo is still early and you may not know exactly when you do ovulate!

Hope...your plan sounds good and relaxed...:)
GL!!!!!!

For what it is worth,...in terms of the kh surge and when you o...I always thought I do the day I had the super strong instant dark in 1secind opk. The day before that is usually dark but it just takes a few more seconds to show up.
Then the opks remain dark for several days. That is why they say to stop testing.

[pinkin2011]

KD.. I believe you really do still have a chance, I didnt get my bfp until i was 14 or 15 dpo.. A friend of mine used a FRER and didnt get her bfp until the day she was due for her af..

LMN7..... As for o+12 i think what you have been saying is correct... I only had one attempt this month and I am not real sure about how many hrs past o it was... I thought it could of been anywhere between 4 and 12 hrs BUT my cervix was still high when we dtd so does that mean it wasnt o+12?

LEMON, How are you going???

How is everyone else??

[prayforprincess]

am i right in thinking 0+12 is it as soon as your cervix goes low and firm and your cm goes creamy, (im making sure ive got it to the nail)

o+12 is supposed to be when your cm starts to go creamy.

[littlemissnaughty7]

im so bummed my tests are now negative when only this morning and dinner time they were positive ! i havent got a smiley either on CBD either ! so the only thing i can think of is that my body tried to O and failed so i guess thats it, doubt il actually O now this cycle, wasted month on clomid, i cant believe this is happening !

[pinkin2011]

PFP how are you going??? How many dpo are you? Not far behind me!

[pinkin2011]

LMN7 , So sorry this is happening to you, I know what its like when o mucks up and its so stressful and upsetting and thats for someone that is not on clomid!!! I am not real sure how the clomid works but were you on it for a few days???

[littlemissnaughty7]

you take it cd2 - cd6 and should ovulate 5-10 days after the last pill, but i got 2 +opks today with first response and now its negative i was also taking clear blue digital and didnt get a smiley at all ! so i dont know what to think im so confused !

[prayforprincess]

I agree!

Thanks PrayforPrincess~ How are you feeling? Your attempts are all done, right. Happy for you. I'm right behine you! Starting tomorrow :) yay! Are you changing the diet any in the 2 WW? I will def still skip breakfast, and no snacks, but maybe more calories. (i've been at 1200 and now even less 1000 or under).

I am feeling normal - not too much 2-3 days past o. I have had 3 high temps already, opks faded to nothing and my cm is dried up. Definitely o'ed. I had 5 good attempts o-1, o and o+1. Not too much more I can do.
I am not changing my diet much. Going a little easy on the protein and calories. I am always 40 grams or under on protein and will allow myself as much as 50 if need be; and I will go up to eating 1500 calories or so -- I have been 1100-1300 for the past 8 weeks.
Wow, under 1000 calories is really low. Even 1200 is low but on the lowest end of still be safe and healthy . I would be worried about ovulating if you go any lower than 1000. Not to alarm you but that is not healthy -- you need minimal 1200 calories for your body to just function properly. I am a super nutritional freak and I know too much in the health/nutrition category and I would not go below 1000 for more than a day or two tops. 1100 is sooo very low and will do the trick just as well without signaling your body these are deadly times -- we want our bodies to think its hard times, not that we are starving to death, literally because your body knows that's what would happen if you ate a diet that low in calories over time.

[prayforprincess]

how many shy BFPs have you ladies seen? I mean really do I have a chance?

I think you have a chance. I did not get a positive with any of my boys til 14dpo. I always was upset wondering why I was not pregnant with so many bfn's and then boom, my + the day after I expected my period.
Even when I got pregnant with twins, I did not get a bfp til 11dpo -- and that was twins. So a singleton would have been earliest 13dpo.
I know myself I am not checking this time til 12dpo because I know I will see the bfn's before then and get sooo upset, maybe for nothing.

You are definitely not out in my opinion, especially with your symptoms -- breast soreness, that has to be pregnancy.

[PeonyPrincess]

Kraizy, FF says the most common day to get a BFP is 14DPO, which is why they say to wait to test until then (not that I can bear waiting that long to POAS either!). I have had a couple of months where I disagree with the O date that FF says. It is usually when my temps are only slightly above the cover line for a couple of days and then jump right up. But don't count the sore boobs as a guarantee of being pg. I get them every month for a few days before AF without fail. It is because the hormones involved are much the same leading up to AF as in early pg. Regardless of that, you did a fab job this month, so I really hope you see a BFP soon.

LMN7, perhaps your CBD is faulty this month. The fact that you got a +OPK on the FRER is all you really need to worry about. Start counting from then if you are trying to pinpoint O+12. However, I think pinpointing it is very hard, so you may want to decide if it is worth stressing over this month, or worth getting an attempt in anyway, seeing as you are already on the clomid and all.

[KraizyDaizy]

im so bummed my tests are now negative when only this morning and dinner time they were positive ! i havent got a smiley either on CBD either ! so the only thing i can think of is that my body tried to O and failed so i guess thats it, doubt il actually O now this cycle, wasted month on clomid, i cant believe this is happening !

What cd are you on and what days did you take clomid? maybe your +OPK's were not fully +and you are gearing up for O. Do you BBT? I know with my O it was in the Cd15 range according to FF and my O pains. I am betting that you still are getting ready to O especially if this is your first month on Clomid. I took Clomid years ago and it did not result in pregnancy. I had a HSG and got preg the third month after. I think my tubes were blocked is all.

I know there is a serious difference for me with my normal or me trying to O on my own and then with Clomid. I really hurt with Clomid this time and I had EWCM which I have not had in so long, well more slippery, not stretchy. I would not give up testing. I test in the am and the evening till I catch the O. I use digital when I think they are positive this month and it really helped me stop guessing. But I also use the CB fertility monitor as well, so you would think I would be able to catch the egg this month, but as it is looking I may not have with all that.

[KraizyDaizy]

I think you have a chance. I did not get a positive with any of my boys til 14dpo. I always was upset wondering why I was not pregnant with so many bfn's and then boom, my + the day after I expected my period.Even when I got pregnant with twins, I did not get a bfp til 11dpo -- and that was twins. So a singleton would have been earliest 13dpo. I know myself I am not checking this time til 12dpo because I know I will see the bfn's before then and get sooo upset, maybe for nothing.You are definitely not out in my opinion, especially with your symptoms -- breast soreness, that has to be pregnancy.Thanks so much for the pep talk! This is the only place I feel I can be selfish wanting my pink dream. No one else understands, well except for my DH...I think LOL!Have you ladies ever read this poem...it's my anthem to my 5th baby if she ever gets here...

Song for a Fifth Child
by Ruth Hulburt Hamilton
Mother, oh Mother, come shake out your cloth,
Empty the dustpan, poison the moth,
Hang out the washing and butter the bread,
Sew on a button and make up a bed.
Where is the mother whose house is so shocking?
She’s up in the nursery, blissfully rocking.

Oh, I’ve grown shiftless as Little Boy Blue(Lullaby, rockaby, lullaby loo).
Dishes are waiting and bills are past due(Pat-a-cake, darling, and peek, peekaboo).
The shopping’s not done and there’s nothing for stew
And out in the yard there’s a hullabaloo
But I’m playing Kanga and this is my Roo.
Look! Aren’t her eyes the most wonderful hue?
(Lullaby, rockaby, lullaby loo).

The cleaning and scrubbing will wait till tomorrow,
For children grow up, as I’ve learned to my sorrow.
So quiet down, cobwebs. Dust go to sleep.
I’m rocking my baby and babies don’t keep.

[purple sky]

purplesky~ how is Dh doing??
He's doing ok. Not in any pain. We're just waiting for the surgery. If I am not pregnant this cycle, I'm skipping March and will ttc in April after his surgery.

[purple sky]

Aaw Daizy that song is very sweet!

[prayforprincess]

Went out to dinner tonight. I figured since it was 2-3 days past o whats done is done and i can have a little cheat.
I had a garden salad, then chicken, with broccoli and a plain sweet potato. I think the biggest cheat was the roasted chicken (though I really wanted salmon, and I refrained with all that healthy fat til I get a bfp).
Tomorrow, back to the LE diet 90% til I get a bfp or my af.

I have to be honest, all the testing early with bfn's really scare me. I just know I am one of those people because I have never had an early bfp. The sensible part of me want to wait til the morning my af is due, Sat. 3/3 to take a test. Therefor I know whatever the outcome is, will be. But the impatient part of me does not think I can wait and wants to take one at 12dpo, 2/29. I do have 6 tests waiting for me under my bathroom sink. I just hate the emotional roller coaster of getting a bfn with a little hope that tomorrow might still be a bfp. I know waiting will eliminate all that anxiety and anticipation and just tell me what is...oh I don't know. Knowing myself the impatience will take over anyway.

[amari]

littlemiss-Did you end up doing an attempt? I wonder what the company would say if you called and asked them about it? I bet you haven't O'd yet, I did't O til cycle day 21 on clomid.

KD-You are def not out! FX for you!

Purple-Hope your dh is feeling well! Are you in the 2ww now?

Praying for pink and Pinkin-HOw are you doing in the 2ww??

I am just hanging out, don't think I am going to O this month. Trying my best to stick to the diet but even though I am keeping under the cals and protein and fat I feel like I am eating way too much food! It is weird. I am still hungry though. I don't know, some days I just want to stop the whole thing.

[purple sky]

PFP - We are the same, 2 dpo. Your dinner sounded really Yum! I totally cheated and had a little piece of chicken and small serve of mashed potatoes. I'm skipping March if I don't get preggo so I think it should be ok.

Daizy - I don't think your out just get, couple more days to go...

Amari - I totally feel you on the diet. It makes it especially hard when it's difficult to ttc and you have a wacky cycle. I think as long as your within your limits then just eat. I think being that your still hungry is a good sign.

[pinkin2011]

Hey RAINBOW, I remember you saying in the 2ww when you got your bfp you had right side pains or twinges in your ovary area?? I seem to be having a few twinges and pains in my right side i have been for 2 days.. I am 7dpo today, gosh I hope its a good sign for me

[purple sky]

Pink you have just a few more days to go! Have you started the poas addiction yet?

[pinkin2011]

NOOOOOO WAY!!!! cost me a small fortune last month !!!! I was going to start at 10 dpo do you think i should start then??

[PeonyPrincess]

I reckon 9DPO if you are still getting signs. If you are anything like me, you just have to POAS at some point!! My willpower is terrible. FX Pinkin!!!!!!

[pinkin2011]

Yeah well maybe i could do 9dpo , Will see... I am so scared to see that bfn but i guess i cant change it can i?? so it is what it is! Do you feel your attempt is close Peony?

[rainbowflower]

Hey RAINBOW, I remember you saying in the 2ww when you got your bfp you had right side pains or twinges in your ovary area?? I seem to be having a few twinges and pains in my right side i have been for 2 days.. I am 7dpo today, gosh I hope its a good sign for me

that's right! the twinges were too far to the right to be uterus-area but did feel possibly ovary-area, or maybe stretching-related. I don't normally get any niggles during my 2ww so that was different for me.

[pinkin2011]

I want to follow in your footsteps!! I am having alot of right sided twinges, But could just be nothing! I must say tho If i get a bfp i must be very fertile because we only had one attempt after o ( i think) and a bfp would not be really expected

[rainbowflower]

could just be that there were follicles ready to go on the right side but then we OVed from the left so the right side stayed swollen/tender... who knows :)

you did an O+12?

[pinkin2011]

I am not sure.... I know i had bad pains at 10pm ( my usual o pain) and we didnt get to dtd until 6am next morning but I may have oed through the night??? Not sure as when we dtd i was sore in there still and uncomfortable and my cervix was still high? so i may of even done o+5 i really have no idea because i dont temp.. I got my smile opk in the morning of the 13th and had the pains between 8pm and 10pm but the pain was there all night and in morning..

[PeonyPrincess]

CD12 today. I am hoping I get a +OPK tomorrow as DH will be home tomorrow night (on my insistence!). I wonder if my body will co-operate this month? I don't have any EWCM yet, so maybe I will O later this month. DH is a mess of midge bites after a fishing trip on the weekend. He says he has a fever and is having to take anti-histamines so he doesn't scratch his arms and legs off. Sometimes I wonder why I bother with all the effort I go to to TTC! He'll probably just kill off all his sperm by being sick and drugged up. Oh and I have to prepare everything for DS1's party on Saturday. Not exactly the relaxed lady I was last month!

[KraizyDaizy]

OMG...I just hate digital tests...well when they say NOT PREGNANT! another test wasted!!! Maybe I will be late tomorrow and test when I was really supposed to? I just thought I would know something by now and my temps went back up again today? I keep praying and trying to be optimistic, but I just don't know. I am expecting AF at any time now.

My fingers and toes are crossed for all that are in the TWW! Pink baby dust to you all!

[sweetsister]

Hi ladies! How's everyone doing? I've been doing? I've been having a hard time posting lately, sorry about that. You all got some great attempts in! So excited for you!! Hope to see some BFP's and join you next month!!

Clomid users- hi! How did you all decide when to start bd'ing? Did you all use any lube or anything else? Trying to decide what to do next month! I would love for this to be over with!

Hi Amari ,well i decided to start at cd9 because i started getting cramping and didnt knowthink it might just be follicles growing :shrug: ,i thought i was ovulating early?So if i make it to next month i will definately do it closer to my o day cd 16 as it was a bit much :0 .And i didnt use any lube i was also very dry from clomid but it didnt really bother me as i was determined to not let anything prevent pregnancy,so i guess well soon find out if it worked,i think i have 6 more days til i can test:nails:

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all well my tests with frer were negative all night even though they had been postive in the morning yesterday nad dinner time, so i got up and took another this morning nearly positive again, took one at dinner def positive again so took a clear blue digi and a ........ SMILEY YAY !!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

so im hoping this is it this time as i didnt get a smiley yesterday, i sooooooooo hope it is, still no mucus very dry this month, and still no O pains ive had a couple of small twinges but thats it, do people get smileys and still not ovulate ???

[rainbowflower]

it's possible to get a pos OPK and then not ovulate... but most women will OV after the pos OPK. That's why temping can be so useful as then you can prove that you did (or not)

[littlemissnaughty7]

well im temping and my temp hasnt dipped as yet, its the same as it was yesterday, what do you think happened do you think i tried to O yesterday but my body failed and is today or do you think thats a load o rubbish lol,

[rainbowflower]

your body doesn't OV on the day of the pos OPK normally - it's 12-48hrs later so you might not even OV until tomorrow or the day after... but perhaps tomorrow you'll see a lovely big temp rise and OV will have been today!

[littlemissnaughty7]

i was aiming for a 0+12 though and dont know when to go by todays digital smiley opk or yesterdays frer, but then after 2 positive frers yesterday i got 2 negatives at tea time and night time ?

[rainbowflower]

frer as in the pregnancy test?

[littlemissnaughty7]

no as in the ovulation sticks by first response sorry,

[rainbowflower]

ahh ok, I haven't heard of those ones before

go by your first positive, whichever brand that was. You don't want to BD too late and miss the egg completely or you'll have just completely wasted the cycle and all your hard work. There are worse things than BDing right on OV itself, and personally I don't believe it sways either way to BD then! You'll have already done the hard work with the diet and the lowering (and/or clomid), you need to get a BFP to get a chance of pink :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok il talk to my hubby and see what he says, maybe we could do 2 attempts ?

[littlemissnaughty7]

but after those 2 positive i had 2 negative tests yesterday ?

[rainbowflower]

a positive is a positive - it shows the right amount of hormone was there needed to show a surge... it could have been negative afterwards for several reasons, perhaps you were more hydrated, perhaps you hadn't held pee in for as long, the hormone finds it easier to get into the urine at different times of the day than others, etc.

[littlemissnaughty7]

aggghhhh its all driving me mad lol,

[rainbowflower]

I don't know if it's worked yet for a sway, but we BDed 3 times within 24hrs when we got a pos OPK.. and then got a BFP!
if you are only going to have one attempt I'd do it at pos OPK rather than try for O+12, especially as you don't know exactly when O+12 is.. at least that way you know you will have swimmers in there ready and waiting for the egg to pop out!

[littlemissnaughty7]

so we should of done it yesterday then :sad:

[rainbowflower]

no, OV day will likely be today so today is still a good fertile day for catching the egg (usually the day after the pos OPK, but as said above it can be 12-48hrs later) I'd go make that baby tonight personally, or as soon as you can!

[littlemissnaughty7]

i just really wanted to try a 0+12, i knew this would happen lol, does it make a difference that i had no symptoms yesterday but today i have O pain ?

[prayforprincess]

Littlemiss- Stress is the worst thing you can do before you are trying to concieve. It is nearly proven to sway blue where as timing is not proven to sway in any direction. In fact, timing has been disproven over and over again.
Do not hang on to a myth about timing and risk stressing yourself out and missing the egg all together wasting all your hard work this month.
Hang onto what yor have already worked so hard to do and things that are proven to sway, like diet, glucose, and hormone level.
Just dtd now! You are running out of time. Plus, the older you get the less hours your egg lives. In the beginning it does live for roughly 24 hours, but after 35 it lives for only 12 hours max. That is why o+12 is not ideal for all couples. I am not sure your age but I would just dtd now.

[prayforprincess]

i just really wanted to try a 0+12, i knew this would happen lol, does it make a difference that i had no symptoms yesterday but today i have O pain ?

no, and every month is different. I did not have any o pain on the night I ovulated but I did for 36 hours after. You can't go by o pains as they change like the weather. So does your cm etc. etc.
You are playing with fire trying to wait and time like that. Good luck.

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss- I agree with PFP and rainbow. Good luck. No stress allowed!

PrayforP- when u test to early I'll remind you that your testing to early and that your bfp is coming ;)

So it's finally here, tonight is dtd time!!! Been waiting months and months. Just did rephresh won't do anymore. Went to test CM from cervix- NOTHING I guess the clomid. Almost didn't do the rephresh but did anyway.

My dh is all stuffy has sinus issues is there something he should not be taking? He just took a sudafed. Is this a problem? I know for us it can be good what about dh??

[prayforprincess]

Thanks Hope&Dream -- I think I will take my 1st test on the 29th, 12-13dpo.
Sudafed is great for dh too. Won't hurt anything and slightly sways pink for dh too. I am soooo excited you are starting your attempts.
Hopefully all of us get our bfp this month!

Pinkin -- I am thinking of you. When are you going to begin testing?

[pinkin2011]

I "think" I will start testing at 10dpo, but will see..I am going very well this month I dont feel like i want to test for a while yet, which i great for me!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok ladies i need some advice does your temp go up the second you ovulate or does it go up so many hours after my temps now are high and we havent dtd yet !!

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh good I thought so but wanted to make sure. Made a thread in case no one here answered quick!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Lmn- i only temp first thing in the am. Once your moving around not accurate. Are you comparing to temps at same time?

[littlemissnaughty7]

yeah my temp is like 37'c that is high ! i just didnt know when it goes up as to when you ovulate its not normally that high ??

[HopeandDreamG]

I think they say you O at the dip or as the rise begins. "they" can't say for sure but that's the consensus from what I've read.

[PeonyPrincess]

I always thought O day was the day before a big temp rise??

All the best for your attempts Hope.

[purple sky]

Hope - Yay for your attempt :)

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok well we dtd ........ im not sure when it was compared to O i think it might have been right on O tell me what you think guys,

i had my + opk on a first response the day before yesterday and yesterday morning and i had a smiley yesterday at 1.30pm, which i didnt get the day before, i had some twinges yesterday for quite a while, i had a ton of EWCM show up at 6.45pm last night then nothing for hours, i took my temp about 11pm and it was really high so i thought i could of missed my chance so we dtd at 11.30pm, i had already put a pea sized amount of rephresh in about 15 mins before we dtd, my ph was low like 4.3-4.8 i lay with hips raised for 10 mins then went to the toilet and wiped away any excess, put another pea sized amount of rephresh in half an hour - 45 mins after dtd, i couldnt get anymore EWCM out so i thought i had def ovulated, went to sleep but kept waking up, and taking my temp, which at 7.10am was now 36.8 which has risen 0.4 from yesterdays temp, but low and behold ive gone to the toilet and i have EWCM and its very stretchy so im not sure whats going on now, could i still not have ovulated yet ?? or could that be just left overs lol,

[HappyLea]

Morning ladies,

Hope all these attempts are going well and we will reap the reward very soon and we see lots of BFP's this month :D

Well im CD18 today and i normally get a +opk CD19 so fx but i have been doing splime attempts for past 8 days and we were going to do one everyday to O+12 but last night we kinda got alittle caught in the moment and ended up with a natural attempt. I hope i haven't ruined my sway. My cm ph before attempt was 4.5 - 5 i didnt have big O and he wasnt inside me for too long (sorry tmi) but i did FTF replens after and J+D checked combined ph straight after it was 6ish and then went down to 5ish. Will this be ok?

We are kinda all splimed out but only got couple more days to go, but im kinda tempted for the O+12 attempt to be a natural.

What do you think?

[pinkin2011]

I am going to start testing tomorrow.. 9dpo! Why not!!

[pinkin2011]

I seem to be having alot of cramping on my left tonight and my boobs all of a sudden are bigger and getting sore.. I am due for af on the 28th of feb but i really think i will just start testing tomorrow morning anyway

[HappyLea]

Good Luck Pinkin :fx: for you x

[rainbowflower]

pinkin sounds very promising, what symptoms did you have in the 2ww last time? are these different?

[pinkin2011]

last month i felt preg ...... felt sick and had period pain, didnt get sore boobs until couple of days before o thats why when i was testing 9, 10, 11 dpo i thought how could i get a + because i didnt have sore boobs.. I have them now tho and just cramping in the left side?? have had cramping in the right too.. but right now its left.. Who knows I can only hope hey!!!!

[pinkin2011]

Thanks Happy Lea!!
My d/h thinks I am preg!! Hope hes right!

[HopeandDreamG]

I always thought O day was the day before a big temp rise??

All the best for your attempts Hope.

We r saying the same thing! The day before a big temp rise is the dip..

[HopeandDreamG]

Pink~ good luck testing. What was your sway like this month?

Happylea~ I don't think you ruined anything with a natural attempt. Maybe the combo is just what you needed! I would listen to your gut regarding going for a 0+ natural attempt. I can't imagine it would hurt.

Littlemiss~ I think your attempt sounds great. Even if the timing wasn't perfect (which I'm not saying) timing doesn't sway. Zanacal conceived a girl on O! So if you were O'ing it doesn't even matter. :) Good luck. Your going to keep it at the one attempt right?

Had my first attempt last night! Going to doctor today at 11am for Ovidrel injection. Dh got day off for his bday today, so we are going to doc (i'm packing my own lunch, LOL), stopping to get him lunch, and will find a nice spot to eat! Then I'm thinking foot massages for relaxation. Then DTD again tonight!! We are going to dtd wednesday and thursday too. Wondering if I should do it twice (add in an am attempt) any of the mornings. What do you think? With the injection today you O 24-36 hrs. Will ask doc too at apt today!

[HopeandDreamG]

Hope - Yay for your attempt :)

Thanks purple! Last night after DTD for my first attempt my 4 year old came to my room saying he had a stomach ache. He came in my bed for a few minutes and said "mommy your belly hurts because your gonna have a baby, 2 babies at the same time"!!! Its not totally random he knew I was preggo I was due this January, but there was never talk about two babies!! I'd be thrilled :) imagine he's right.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all, i hope its enough H&D pinkin that sounds very promosing can you remind me of your attempt i think i remember you saying you dtd once right ?

[HappyLea]

Well i been to my mums this morning and felt pain like i may ov soon, come home poas ovulation and yes +opk 1 day early i hope that my gut feeling was right to go with natural last night. Now im worried its too close to ov and may sway blue...argh! I really do hope that timing is the least important factor.

Hope~ good luck at drs today, awww i hope your ds is right my boys always say i will have 2 babies. I hope our boys are right :D that would be amazing xxx

[littlemissnaughty7]

can you have lemon juice on the le diet ?

[HappyLea]

I dont really understand the moon stuff, but is today a new moon? and does that sway girl? I got my +opk today so :fx:

[KraizyDaizy]

1 day late, BFN and temp went down but no AF yet... I guess I am out this month?

[prayforprincess]

ok ladies i need some advice does your temp go up the second you ovulate or does it go up so many hours after my temps now are high and we havent dtd yet !!

This is what I have understood -- one "normally" ovulates in between the temp dip and the temp spike -- so within those 24 hours. So if you got a low temp at 7am, then that means you will release the egg sometime that day. The next morning when you get a temp spike, that means that the egg has already been released. Is it dead yet?? Maybe not, it depends on when it was released and your age as to how long your egg will live. If it was released at 10pm, and you are 32, then most likely you have til 8-10pm the next day before it will die. If you dtd the morning of your temp spike, then most likely the egg will still be alive, unless you ovulated early the day before.

I get the same pattern every month. Temp dip, then 2 steady temp spikes, then a way up temp spike. You don't normally get the really high temp spike til the morning after the egg dies. So if your temp goes even higher tomorrow, that means that most likely your egg lived til sometime today. Does that make sense?

[prayforprincess]

ok well we dtd ........ im not sure when it was compared to O i think it might have been right on O tell me what you think guys,

i had my + opk on a first response the day before yesterday and yesterday morning and i had a smiley yesterday at 1.30pm, which i didnt get the day before, i had some twinges yesterday for quite a while, i had a ton of EWCM show up at 6.45pm last night then nothing for hours, i took my temp about 11pm and it was really high so i thought i could of missed my chance so we dtd at 11.30pm, i had already put a pea sized amount of rephresh in about 15 mins before we dtd, my ph was low like 4.3-4.8 i lay with hips raised for 10 mins then went to the toilet and wiped away any excess, put another pea sized amount of rephresh in half an hour - 45 mins after dtd, i couldnt get anymore EWCM out so i thought i had def ovulated, went to sleep but kept waking up, and taking my temp, which at 7.10am was now 36.8 which has risen 0.4 from yesterdays temp, but low and behold ive gone to the toilet and i have EWCM and its very stretchy so im not sure whats going on now, could i still not have ovulated yet ?? or could that be just left overs lol,

My opinion, I think you ovulated late last night. So most likely you dtd right at o. If you temp went up this am then that means you have o'ed. Then egg might still be alive tho so if you wanna dtd again this morning and tonight you may still get more attempts in (not sure what your plan is).
You definitely did not miss the egg, especially when you get a smiley yesterday.
Good attempt!

[prayforprincess]

HappyLea -- I think you are fine. I natural attempt will not ruin your sway. And don't worry about dtd too close to o, timing does not sway in either direction. Your attempts look great.

H&D -- So excited your attempts begun! One step closer to a bfp!

Pinkin -- Your symptoms look promising!

[prayforprincess]

can you have lemon juice on the le diet ?

not a lot or too often. a tiny bit here or there won't hurt tho

[prayforprincess]

1 day late, BFN and temp went down but no AF yet... I guess I am out this month?

I don't understand -- you dtd soooo much! How could this be?? I am so sorry Kraizydaizy.

[HopeandDreamG]

hi all, i hope its enough H&D pinkin that sounds very promosing can you remind me of your attempt i think i remember you saying you dtd once right ?

Here's my plan: been doing LE diet since Dec.30th lost 18 pounds. Took Saw Palmetto and Vitex for 6 weeks straight stopped when AF started. continued taking acidophilus 2xaday, and a baby aspirin, and folic acid, Took clomid CD3-7. Dh took Cal, mag, cranberry, & licorice root 3 a day. Dh has been releasing every am since CD3, and starting Sunday he released am and pm. Yesterday (monday) he released am we DTD pm. Going to doc today for injection will dtd tonight, tomorrow and the day after. Did rephresh Monday, won't use anymore. Will use touch of sylk for DTD last night felt slight burn (must be from clomid never had this before).

May add AM attempt tomorrow or Wednesday (along with pm attempt). Pray for Princess want your input on that. what do you think?
Ovidrel injection is 11am today, O is 24-36 hrs after.

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh pooh i was hoping that wasnt the case, i had EWCM this morning, cant see much now though, is there still a chance i O this morning ?

KD hun im so sorry that egg of yours must of been a tough nut to crack, but you dtd exactly how you should of done so be positive and you will defget it next month just maybe dtd twice a day hun,

[littlemissnaughty7]

H&D that sounds an excellent sway hun i bet this is your month !

[auroara78]

Hope and Dreams, I'm so excited for your attempts coming up! With clomid and injection, you very well may pop out two eggs...how awesome would it be to have twin girls? I'd love that idea!!! Since you're on Clomid and Represh, I'd definitely make sure to get quite a few BD's in to counteract all that stuff going on down there.

LMN7, glad you got your attempt in too!

Peony, your attempt is coming right up right?

Pinkin, hope you get a BFP!

KD, shocked you didn't get a BFP yet...you had so many good attempts + Clomid!

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok so i still have EWCM not as stretchy as before but its see through i dont know what to think ?

[HopeandDreamG]

Hi auroara~ I was thinking about you! Hope your doing well. Hadn't seen you in here in a couple of days, and I was off for a couple of days. Had a minor incision on my eyelid and my eye is not behaving. It swelled really really badly. Still has not bounced back plastic surgeon said its just gonna take time to go down. Its soooooo annnoying... leaving for doc in a few mins!!

[prayforprincess]

Here's my plan: been doing LE diet since Dec.30th lost 18 pounds. Took Saw Palmetto and Vitex for 6 weeks straight stopped when AF started. continued taking acidophilus 2xaday, and a baby aspirin, and folic acid, Took clomid CD3-7. Dh took Cal, mag, cranberry, & licorice root 3 a day. Dh has been releasing every am since CD3, and starting Sunday he released am and pm. Yesterday (monday) he released am we DTD pm. Going to doc today for injection will dtd tonight, tomorrow and the day after. Did rephresh Monday, won't use anymore. Will use touch of sylk for DTD last night felt slight burn (must be from clomid never had this before).

May add AM attempt tomorrow or Wednesday (along with pm attempt). Pray for Princess want your input on that. what do you think?
Ovidrel injection is 11am today, O is 24-36 hrs after.

I think that looks great! If you are going to add an am attempt (which I think is a great idea) then I would add that one tomorrow morning. 2 reasons: 1) it ensures the swimmers are there before the egg & 2)it keeps his sperm count really low now and for the rest of your attempts.
Also, just fyi: you can take the saw palmetto up til ovulation, you do not need to stop taking it at af.
Good luck!

[prayforprincess]

oh pooh i was hoping that wasnt the case, i had EWCM this morning, cant see much now though, is there still a chance i O this morning ?


Unlikely if you already had your spike/temp raised this morning. It is impossible to know exactly when you ovulated without having ultrasound. You most likely ovulated sometime between yesterday morning and this morning. I am guessing late last night to early hours in the morning because you did still have a positive opk at 1:30 yesterday.
No worries though, you caught the egg right at ovulation. Your maternal condition is your sway, not the few hours earlier that you dtd than you wanted to. Really, I think if anything you gave yourself a better chance of getting pg dtd last night than if you dtd this morning or especially tonight. If you waited until tonight you most likely would have missed the egg all together.

[KraizyDaizy]

AF is here with a vengeance!!! I hate that witch!!!! Sad, but will play this game again next month I guess.

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all KD im sooooooooooooooo sorry huni, but you keep that chin up with a sway like yours you will get your girl next attempt huni xx

[auroara78]

Ah KD :(

At least the prog helped your LP, I am still hoping you get a big BFP next cycle!

[littlemissnaughty7]

had a few waves of nausea today i know it cant be anything pregnancy related as i only ovulated yesterday (i think) its just weird !

[HopeandDreamG]

Kraisy~ Sorry sorry sorry that stinks BOOOOOO AF!

So I'm back from doctor. My follicles were not big enough yet to get injection. They told me to do it on Thursday (I know how myself so I don't have to go back). I have 2 on the right and 2 on the left. What do we have without fertility meds, normally? I didnt ask that, forgot.

So what should I do: dtd last night, will have DH release today (of course) or should we just dtd, I will for sure tomorrow, thursday and Friday am and pm. What should I do about tonight? Might start a thread.

Nurse practitioner told Dh to abstain from now till Thursday (when I'll do the shot) so sperm count isn't reduced. Hahaha. I said Ok, makes sense instead of getting into why I will do the opposite!!

Oh, also they gave me the script for blood work 2 weeks after the injection bc hpt's will lit up false positives from the injection. woohoooo!!

[HopeandDreamG]

I think that looks great! If you are going to add an am attempt (which I think is a great idea) then I would add that one tomorrow morning. 2 reasons: 1) it ensures the swimmers are there before the egg & 2)it keeps his sperm count really low now and for the rest of your attempts.
Also, just fyi: you can take the saw palmetto up til ovulation, you do not need to stop taking it at af.
Good luck!

I thought I had to stop the Vitex AND Saw Palmetto at CD1. I really thought thats what AS said because of the clomid. I guess it doesn't matter now. Don't think it would pay to take it from today till Thursday do you? I Should look into this anyway in case for next month (HOPEFULLY NOT)!

[suregena]

CD48!!!!!!!!!!(@#%*#@%&*!

God. I am SO FED UP. I was so busy at work today that I didn't get a chance to call the doctor to check if they got the results yet, so I'm going to try to tomorrow.

Ugggggh, this is so utterly ridiculous. I've gained most my weight back, too. :/

I'm going back on half the diet once AF starts and then probably go back into it the end of March... for attempt in May. Sound okay?

I stepped on the scale today and was not happy with what I saw, but I've been pigging out, truth be told...

[littlemissnaughty7]

aghhhhhhh im stressing out, im sure i dtd on ovulation, which was not my plan, and now im really worried that i have done too much of a boy sway !

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena~ this is ridiculous. I would def call doc tomorrow, and its probably good that you gained weight back bc if your one of the ladies that can't afford to lose (which I think you are) its better off. Then you have many weeks to lose when AF comes especially for a May attempt! Its perfect :) Might as well enjoy the food now while you can it won't be long before you are HUNGRY again!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

am i right in thinkin twinges and pains on the right hand side early on in pregnancy are more likely to be male babies ?

[dannikins]

oh no KD, i thought for sure this month was it for you!!!

suregena, thats insane!
i hope you can get some answers today.
we are all dying to know whats going on with you too.

i have a belly pic here.
25 weeks.
think im smaller this time than last time.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/25weekss.jpg

also found a pic of my last pregnancy at 25 weeks, wearing the same clothes...
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/dannikins_photos/Picture063.jpg

sorry they are so huge, i have resized them a few times, but they are still huge....

[littlemissnaughty7]

dannikins thats a lovely picture hun, have you noticed anything different to this pregnancy then with your sons ?

[prayforprincess]

I thought I had to stop the Vitex AND Saw Palmetto at CD1. I really thought thats what AS said because of the clomid. I guess it doesn't matter now. Don't think it would pay to take it from today till Thursday do you? I Should look into this anyway in case for next month (HOPEFULLY NOT)!

Ok, maybe it is because you are on the clomid -- forgot about that. Normally you do not have to stop taking it til o day.

[prayforprincess]

aghhhhhhh im stressing out, im sure i dtd on ovulation, which was not my plan, and now im really worried that i have done too much of a boy sway !

dtd on o day is not a boy sway. I conceived all my boys dtd before ovulation. Timing does not sway. Unless there is something else that you have been doing that sways boy, I can promise you it is not the timing.

[prayforprincess]

Dannikins - I can't believe you are not finding out. I don't have that kinds of patience. Good for you and keeping the surprise factor alive! You look great!

[girlmom]

prayforaprincess is correct. i dtd doggy style on O day and got 7 girls. this time i dtd missionary 5 days before O and again O+12 and got a boy!

[PeonyPrincess]

Ugh, I have a temp dip this morning, but still -OPK. Early last month, late this month...typical!
KD, so sorry AF has arrived. You did a great job, but even then pg only happens 1/3 of the time. It's just not fair.
Suregena, you need answers. This must be driving you insane.
Gotta dash to get ready for work, must remember to pack my OPKs to re-check at work (oh the things we do!). Hi to everyone else.

[littlemissnaughty7]

oh ok thats good to know thanks girlmom oh and please send me your girl vibes........

PP how often are you testing and what tests are you using ?

[girlmom]

you got it, just keep sending me blue vibes everyone i only had 1 scan at 15 weeks and 5 days or something. it looked boy but it hasn't been confirmed yet.

[dannikins]

dannikins thats a lovely picture hun, have you noticed anything different to this pregnancy then with your sons ?

a few things.
my skin was the worst it has ever been the first trimester, and i had nausea all day everyday up untill about 13-14 weeks, which is something i never had with the first 4, with the boys i would only ever feel off if i was hungry.

but at the same time ,all the pregnancies have had different symptoms, and weight gain etc, so im trying not to read into it.

part of me would love to know the gender, but i know that if its another boy i will deal with it better if i find out at the birth.

[dannikins]

dtd on o day is not a boy sway. I conceived all my boys dtd before ovulation. Timing does not sway. Unless there is something else that you have been doing that sways boy, I can promise you it is not the timing.

i totally agree, timing is irrelevant!!!!
my eldest was BD everyday,right through O.
the next 3 of my boys were before O, 2 of them were 2-3 days before, which should have been girl territory.

this was 5 days before O, but still dont know the gender.

i see a lot of girl swayers that BD right through O which should lean boy, and get girls.

[Mochagirl]

dannikins - I love the consistency with your belly pics - same shirt and pose! Do you take it yourself in a mirror or does dh take it? In the past I've tried to get DH to take belly shots but he's a horrible photographer (he never zooms or frames his subjects) and he loses enthusiasm with the process after a couple of weeks of weekly shots, so this time I want to find a way to take good shots on my own, probably with my iPhone.

[dannikins]

i have a camera with a tripod, so i just put it on the coffee table and set the timer...lol

[HopeandDreamG]

Love the pics dannikans

[amari]

Littlemiss-dont worry at all about timing! Unless you did something else you did not sway blue!

KD-sorry about bfn. Boo.

Hope-Yay! 4 follies! How exciting!! GL!!

Dannikins-YOu look great!

Hope everyone is doing great!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I thought I had to stop the Vitex AND Saw Palmetto at CD1. I really thought thats what AS said because of the clomid. I guess it doesn't matter now. Don't think it would pay to take it from today till Thursday do you? I Should look into this anyway in case for next month (HOPEFULLY NOT)!

if you are on clomid, you MUST stop vitex and Saw Palmetto at CD 1.

[PeonyPrincess]

PP how often are you testing and what tests are you using ?

I was testing once a day with both Clear Blue digitals and eBay cheapies, since CD9. Yesterday I did it twice and today twice, but still -OPKs. In previous cycles I have only tested once a day and always got a clear + and/or a smiley, so I am assuming it is just going to happen a couple of days later than I expected this month. I don't really have any other signs that it is happening, so I just have to learn to be patient! Before vitex, my cycles were like clockwork, so it just does my head in that they are all over the place these days. CD14 today.

[HappyLea]

KD ~ so sorry the witch got ya, Good Luck with your next attempt

dannikins ~ great bump shots :D

Hope ~ Good Luck for Thursday x

Littlemiss ~ i feel exactly the same about doing too much to sway blue, my plan was to splime for about 10 days all through Ov but gut feeling i went with natural attempts last night and night before, i got my +opk yesterday used replens and rephresh tho but now i have doubt in my head. Even tho i know timing has nothing to do with it as my DS3 was a 4 day cut off, its just niggling at me. :fx: we those :pinksperm: get our eggs.

I think we may make one more attempt tonight as i got really bad pains around 10pm last night so think i O'd then, so tonight will be about O+21 (DH works shifts so not back till late) nothing will prob come of it but just incase.

Is it the vitex or SP that can be making ovulation very painful for me? The past 2 months ov has been so painful and i been taking them the past 2 months. Anyone else experiencing this?

[suregena]

I'm a little freaked! I called this morning about results from the blood test and she said the results are back and they sent a letter with instructions to ring in for an appointment ASAP but since I was on the phone she booked me in for an appointment for discussing the results first thing in the morning tomorrow. I'm all in a panic now. :(

[pinkin2011]

Can someone please help me with the FRER tests??? I took one this arvo 9dpo and it looked like a bfn, so i took the test apart just to have a closer look... anyway i put it down and left it for about an hr all that was left was the bit with the control line and the part that you pee on.... when i looked at it there was a faint faint line in the test line part ( the test was dry) so could this be something?? or just an evap line?? it may of been a tinge of pink i am not real sure tho?? eyes could be playing tricks on me

[PeonyPrincess]

I wish I knew Pinkin. Try in the morning with your first wee and see how you go!!! FX!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Oh Suregena, what a worry for you. I hate how they make you wait and won't tell you info on the phone. So annoying. Maybe it is because they need to look further into why you haven't got AF yet? GL for tomorrow. Let us know how you go.

[suregena]

I would assume if it was negative for HCG they would do a "wait and see" approach... and not have me in so soon. I've had blood tests before and when they were fine, they either did nothing or I saw them a week or so later, and I've never had a letter sent to me, either. I don't know. 7.55am is before normal appointment times so that seems odd to me...

Normally their hours are from 8.45am...

Truth be told, this week my work pants are uncomfortably tight and
I just thought I was enjoying real food a little too much. It might still be a food baby belly but I am really bloated.

Mainly, the quick turn around is unusual for a result that is normal (i workwithin the health seevice), let alone such an early out of surgery hours appointment??

I might be looking into this too much, but it's weird.

I had 1 case of unexplained amenorrhea before, as I have mentioned on here before, that happened in 2008 after first moving here, and even then, the blood test that came back normal, they didn't get in touch right away and took a wait and see approach....

Ramble ramble... the mind is racing!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry you're going through this, suregena! I hate when they won't tell you info on the phone and make you wait like that - it's so cruel! I have to agree that the fact that they want to see you right away makes me think maybe there was HCG in your blood. When's the last time you tried a pregnancy test?

[suregena]

Maybe a couple weeks ago or 1 week and a half... can't remember, but it was bfn.

[Mochagirl]

It's a loooong wait for you until tomorrow morning. Maybe go out and get a test to see what happens?

[littlemissnaughty7]

hi all ok so my temp didnt really go up this morning just by 0.1 degree celcius, maybe its a slow riser or i dont know, well im super over analysing everything with my sway and i have no idea if or when i ovulated, i dtd last night just to be sure but i dont think anything will come of that, i had a few twinges on my left side the day of + opk, but i normally have holy hell pain on clomid so not sure what that was, im so regretting not taking citirizine now, i had some EWCM about 6.45pm on the day i got my + and didnt really see anymore before we dtd at 11.30pm that night, should i still have taken citirizine ?? i was told not to take it on clomid by AS but the fact i had EWCM has peed me off now, and i wish i had taken it, does it only matter that i did have EWCM that day hours earlier or will it only matter if i had it or not when we dtd ???

[littlemissnaughty7]

suregena thats crazy i would go and buy a test for sure, just to kill your curiosity ,

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena,
I am praying your little bean is one that just does not show up on HPTs. I have heard of that. It's rare, but it could be. I will be stalking the page to see what happens at your visit. I am so praying for you and thinking of you.

[rainbowflower]

hi all ok so my temp didnt really go up this morning just by 0.1 degree celcius, maybe its a slow riser or i dont know, well im super over analysing everything with my sway and i have no idea if or when i ovulated, i dtd last night just to be sure but i dont think anything will come of that, i had a few twinges on my left side the day of + opk, but i normally have holy hell pain on clomid so not sure what that was, im so regretting not taking citirizine now, i had some EWCM about 6.45pm on the day i got my + and didnt really see anymore before we dtd at 11.30pm that night, should i still have taken citirizine ?? i was told not to take it on clomid by AS but the fact i had EWCM has peed me off now, and i wish i had taken it, does it only matter that i did have EWCM that day hours earlier or will it only matter if i had it or not when we dtd ???

can you share your chart?

[littlemissnaughty7]

how do i do that hun ?

[rainbowflower]

what are you using to chart it? Fertility Friend?

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes hun

[sweetsister]

AF is here with a vengeance!!! I hate that witch!!!! Sad, but will play this game again next month I guess.

OOH sorry KD xxooxxo
are u dropping anything off your sway for next time,or adding?

[KraizyDaizy]

OOH sorry KD xxooxxo
are u dropping anything off your sway for next time,or adding?

DROPPING ALMOST ALL LOL! So over swaying LOL!

[sweetsister]

I know hun i took off january as i needed a break,listen i just looked at your chart ,we are similar in clomid and bding through o,except yours are am mine pm,if i dont conceive this time i will try bding in the am and pm around o day,maybe you oed in the night?They say that the egg doesnt really live 24 hrs or 12 even some?Is it inconvenient for u to do night bds next.

[KraizyDaizy]

I know hun i took off january as i needed a break,listen i just looked at your chart ,we are similar in clomid and bding through o,except yours are am mine pm,if i dont conceive this time i will try bding in the am and pm around o day,maybe you oed in the night?They say that the egg doesnt really live 24 hrs or 12 even some?Is it inconvenient for u to do night bds next.

I am not sure my DH can DTD am and PM, but I think I might give that a try too. A couple of the AMs were actually like 1 or 2am, but not AM like after he had slept all night.

Share your chart?

[dannikins]

good luck suregena, ill be stalking this thread for your update:hug2:

[Mochagirl]

I just had my first midwife appt and finally got the results form my u/s a couple of weeks ago. All was well with the baby so far - he or she was measuring 2 days ahead and had a heart rate of 175. They said I have a small corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary, which is nothing to worry about and just means I ovulated on that side recently. I'm hoping this means I ovulated on the left this most recent time since that could be a good girly sign (and I know this is just an old wives' tale - don't worry - I won't get my hopes up too much based on this).

Anyway, as I was researching these cysts I found this:

"Very rarely, the corpus luteum may form a cyst. A corpus luteum cyst will cause BBTs to stay elevated and prevent menstruation from occurring until it resolves, which could take weeks or months."
Basal body temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_body_temperature)

Could this be what's happened to you, suregena? Have they given you an u/s yet?

[suregena]

I just had my first midwife appt and finally got the results form my u/s a couple of weeks ago. All was well with the baby so far - he or she was measuring 2 days ahead and had a heart rate of 175. They said I have a small corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary, which is nothing to worry about and just means I ovulated on that side recently. I'm hoping this means I ovulated on the left this most recent time since that could be a good girly sign (and I know this is just an old wives' tale - don't worry - I won't get my hopes up too much based on this).

Anyway, as I was researching these cysts I found this:

"Very rarely, the corpus luteum may form a cyst. A corpus luteum cyst will cause BBTs to stay elevated and prevent menstruation from occurring until it resolves, which could take weeks or months."
Basal body temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_body_temperature)

Could this be what's happened to you, suregena? Have they given you an u/s yet?


Who knows, it could be anything at this point. No ultrasound as haven't seen anyone yet. Don't know what she will say tomorrow. Don't know what the blood test came back like. Don't know, don't know.

I just HOPE they aren't pulling me in there (and also make me have to go into work late) to just tell me, "There was no HCG detected. Let's wait and see and try to let your period come naturally!"

Someone will get a slap...

The doctor appointment is very early-arse in the morning so I'll keep you all posted with what she says...

All I can say is something IS just so odd because, except for nausea, I've had pregnancy-like symptoms, with bloating, and cramping, twinging, etcetera. For weeks now! Like I said some days ago, I'm really fed up. I just want to know what's going on... or, er, not going on.

[Mochagirl]

I really hope you get a solid answer tomorrow, suregena. Who knows? Maybe you'll find out you have a perfectly healthy bean in there :fx:.

[prayforprincess]

Suregena -- I will be looking tomorrow for updates. I truly wish you all the best and I hope everything is alright. Hugs.
So, I am gonna start testing in one week, next wednesday the 29th. I should be 11-12dpo. I don't wanna test before that cause I don't wanna see the bfn's. I am using First Response. Will test Wednes, Thurs, & Fri. My af is due next Friday, Saturday morning latest so....if it comes out negative on Wednes. I will be a little upset knowing af is due in 2 days and still no bfp. I am praying it is positive b/c I am sooo happy with my sway this month and can't wait to eat again.
I had a strong ovulation so I am hoping that is a good thing. And I have to say, at 6dpo I am sooo bloated. Like hard to button my pants bloated. Don't understand why. I felt so bloated and fat when I got up this morning (which I am so not, my mother just told me today she thinks I am too thin) that I got on the scale to see if I gained weight. Nope, even lost another pound! But my lower belly feels so big I need to wear baggy shirts to cover it. I hope that is a sign that I am pregnant. Otherwise I have no idea why I would be. I have the body shape where my stomach is always so flat - even after 3 kids and 3 c-sections. Thank god. I am also not the kinda person who gets bloated or cramps before af comes. The morning af comes, but not before. Part of me feels its too early to feel pregger's, it would not even be totally implanted yet. Who knows.
Cross my fingers. Oh, and I am getting such breakouts -- my skin is usually sooo clear. Its weird. I don't wanna look into things though, but I can't help it.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayfoeprincess- I think that's promising. Maybe this is it!! Fingers crosses for you.


Suregena - will check in tomorrow hoping eveything is ok with you!

Mocha- so glad to here baby is good! Left side is a good sign ;)

[amari]

I just had my first midwife appt and finally got the results form my u/s a couple of weeks ago. All was well with the baby so far - he or she was measuring 2 days ahead and had a heart rate of 175. They said I have a small corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary, which is nothing to worry about and just means I ovulated on that side recently. I'm hoping this means I ovulated on the left this most recent time since that could be a good girly sign (and I know this is just an old wives' tale - don't worry - I won't get my hopes up too much based on this).

Anyway, as I was researching these cysts I found this:

"Very rarely, the corpus luteum may form a cyst. A corpus luteum cyst will cause BBTs to stay elevated and prevent menstruation from occurring until it resolves, which could take weeks or months."
Basal body temperature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_body_temperature)

Could this be what's happened to you, suregena? Have they given you an u/s yet?

Glad you apt went well!!

Suregena-I was wondering the same thing, I think it can cause cramping too. Hope your apt goes well tomorrow, KUP.

[PeonyPrincess]

Mocha, your baby is going great! Very happy for you.

P4P, FX for you. It is so hard not to analyse every little thing in the 2WW isn't it!

Well we ended up BD last night and this morning. Still no +OPK, but I was having O pains and my cervix started getting less soft, so I figured I may as well give it a shot. I am so frustrated that the OPKs didn't work this month, but in the end I had to listen to my body. I didn't get much EWCM at all this month, so that was no help to work out what was going on. It is DS1s b'day today (6). He will be all grown up if I don't get pg soon.

Any news Pinkin?

Suregena will still be asleep, so I'll check in later and see how her appt went. Mocha, that was very interesting about the cyst. It would certainly explain some of her symptoms.

[dannikins]

mocha , the corpus luteum comes from the side you conceived from.
thats how they know what side you ovulated from when you are pregnant, because all pregnancies have a cyst in that ovary, its what produces the hormones untill the placenta takes over.

[pinkin2011]

BFN for me this morning... 10 dpo but could say maybe 9 dp attempt.. Will test again in the morning.. AF is due on either 28th or 29th so still 5 or 6 days away yet.. Boobs are very sore but that is a af sign for me aswell as preg sign.. other then that nothing else to add to symptoms..

[sweetsister]

I am not sure my DH can DTD am and PM, but I think I might give that a try too. A couple of the AMs were actually like 1 or 2am, but not AM like after he had slept all night.

Share your chart?

I also didnt jump and dump this time i lay 15 mins each time after and once fell asleep all night! I figured that with diet and clomid i was immediately killing all the sperm?Next time i wont do 9 times leading up to o and just do 2x a day closer because those last few attempts we almost didnt do bcause it was enough!
im going to try to figure out posting my chart for u:hug2: I might throw in the towel too if i dont as its been 9 months of this now!

[HappyLea]

Morning ladies, well we made our final attempt last night which i think was around O+21 going off pains and 1st +OPK. Our last 3 attempts were natural instead of splime which i feel nervous about but i went with gut feeling and what is done is done and :fx: we get a BFP and hopefully :pinksperm: gets my egg.

Im just abit confused now with my OPK's, half way through i ran out but my new ones arrived just in time and they are ever so slightly different and now my OPKs have + for 3 days now??!! Making me doubt when i ov'd? We have gotten in 10 attempts but i really need to give DH a rest now.

Im our plan we BD'd through Ov but why do i still feel so nervous about this? even tho i dont believe in timing as DS3 was 4 day cut off.

GL to those making attemps and FX we see those BFP's rolling in xxx

[suregena]

HCG only 2. So... they had me come in to tell me to wait and see. Ugh. So that's that...

[PeonyPrincess]

Suregena, that is so frustrating. And they no doubt charged you for the privilege of telling you nothing helpful. Grrr.

[PeonyPrincess]

HappyLea, I think we are destined to question our sways. It is only natural. Just have to cross our fingers and hope for the best. GL!

[suregena]

Suregena, that is so frustrating. And they no doubt charged you for the privilege of telling you nothing helpful. Grrr.

Thankfully, no. That's the beauty of universal healthcare. :)
Free, already funded through taxation.

As an American, I am fiercely protective of the system in the uk. It's wonderful.

[pinkin2011]

AAAHHHHHHHHH OMG!!!! I am pretty sure I have a line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pinkin2011]

I am 10 dpo.... its roughly 8.30pm and there is the faintest pink test line but its def there! OMG!

[suregena]

Picture, picture! :D

[pinkin2011]

I CANT!!!!!! plus its so faint but its pink!

[GeCon]

Great news, pinkin2011. :)

[HappyLea]

Awww, fab news Pinkin. :fx: for you x

[pinkin2011]

Thanks so much girls!!!xoxo I just took another test with different wee and its def positive! Seriously i thought i was out for sure.. I am still 5 days away from af but i have period pain and cramping in left side

[Lassie1982]

Congrats pinkin!!!!!

[pinkin2011]

Thanks Lassie1982!! Lets hope it stays there!!

[pinkin2011]

I MUST be very fertile if this is a real bfp!! We dtd only once after d/h had already released twice before it and also released every day for 10 days Plus we dtd after o and i used a bit of rephresh 24hrs before we dtd.

[sweetsister]

Yaaaay Pinkin !so exciting:)

[rainbowflower]

I am 10 dpo.... its roughly 8.30pm and there is the faintest pink test line but its def there! OMG!
eee!! how exciting!!

[pinkin2011]

Rainbow I know!!!! I never thought id see a line at 10 dpo! Now I am woundering when did i o!! anyway I hope the line gets darker if i hold the test away from me i can still see the line. Its not quite as dark as your first one was..

[rainbowflower]

my first one wasn't dark at all really, did you use FMU? a line is a line!

[pinkin2011]

no well!! this morning i did one with fmu and it was neg but i could of sworn i could see something but i still thought neg... that was 5am anyway tonight 8.30pm took one and bfp but faint.. waited an hr and bfp again so will see how it goes in the morning

[Mochagirl]

Thankfully, no. That's the beauty of universal healthcare. :)
Free, already funded through taxation.

As an American, I am fiercely protective of the system in the uk. It's wonderful.

I feel the same way about the Canadian health system...it has its flaws, but I wouldn't give up universal healthcare for anything!

Anyway, I'm really sorry they didn't give you any answers. Did they give you some possibilities of what might be happening at least? Did they tell you how long you have to wait before they'll do something about it?

[Mochagirl]

Woohoo pinkin!!!! Congrats on the BFP!!!

[PeonyPrincess]

Yay Pinkin!! That is awesome news. Bet you can't wait for it to be morning so you can POAS again! Glad you decided to go for it this month after all (and I bet DH is so excited).

[amari]

Congrats, pink!!!!

Sweetsister-sounds like a good attempt, no worries!

Suregena-you never had a +opk did you? I think maybe you never o'd if so and so you arent getting your period. I had to take a med called provera eventually to bring on my period but that wad after months of nit getting it. Maybe AS has some ideas.

[HopeandDreamG]

Pink~Yay yay yay yay, and it sounds like a great sway too.

Sweetsister & Happylea~ Also sounds like you both had great sways, now lets get the BFP's to role in!!

Suregena~ unreal. Do they have any conclusion as to why you may be so late?

Today is the day I am supposed to do the Ovidrel injection. I'm debating what time to do it. I will O 24-36 hrs later (doc said didn't matter what time), I will DTD tomorrow in am before dh leaves for work like 5:30am AND like 8:30pm. Maybe I should do it at noon today? Right in the middle? Thoughts????

[prayforprincess]

HCG only 2. So... they had me come in to tell me to wait and see. Ugh. So that's that...

What?? That is so annoying! They had you come in to tell you "wait and see"? Couldn't they just do that over the phone -- arrrrr! I can't believe they would do that to you!

[prayforprincess]

Pinkin I am so excited for you!!! I can't believe you got a bfp at night -- I would be too afraid to take a test at night so soon. Good for you!! I can't wait for you to wake up and take another. I am so jealous you can eat now!! Have you been on the LE diet all month long??
This makes me want to take one at 10dpo too! I am such a chicken though. Maybe I will wait til 11dpo.
Yaaaaa, I am so happy for you. Hopefully I follow in your footsteps in a few days!

[sweetsister]

Pink~Yay yay yay yay, and it sounds like a great sway too.

Sweetsister & Happylea~ Also sounds like you both had great sways, now lets get the BFP's to role in!!

Suregena~ unreal. Do they have any conclusion as to why you may be so late?

Today is the day I am supposed to do the Ovidrel injection. I'm debating what time to do it. I will O 24-36 hrs later (doc said didn't matter what time), I will DTD tomorrow in am before dh leaves for work like 5:30am AND like 8:30pm. Maybe I should do it at noon today? Right in the middle? Thoughts????

Ya i would do it at 12 today if u know dh will be avail in the morn,but i would also dtd tonight to be sure:)

[littlemissnaughty7]

YAY YOU GO PINKIN THAT IS AMAZING HUNI, AND CRAMPING ON THE LEFT ITS GOT TO BE A GIRL IM SOOOOOOOOO HAPPY FOR YOU !!!!!!

[littlemissnaughty7]

right well i am so frustrated i dont think the clomid has made me O yet my temp is still 36.5' C which is low but my CM this morning was very creamy and my cervix is very low and posterior and hard WTF !!! i thought i had already ovulated i was waiting for todays temp to confirm it ! my opks are now + again yesterday it was negative !!! while before that it had been + for 3 days in a row !!! i also had a smiley on CBD on tuesday morning, could i have O last night and that be why my CM and cervix have change so much this AM, ladies help me please !!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Ya i would do it at 12 today if u know dh will be avail in the morn,but i would also dtd tonight to be sure:)

DTD tonight too. Have been dtd since Monday (thought injection was going to be tuesday) follies weren't big enough yet. If I do injection at noon today and I actually O 24 hrs later I will be dtd 7 hrs before O, and like 8 hrs after. Guess that makes the most sense, right?

[HopeandDreamG]

right well i am so frustrated i dont think the clomid has made me O yet my temp is still 36.5' C which is low but my CM this morning was very creamy and my cervix is very low and posterior and hard WTF !!! i thought i had already ovulated i was waiting for todays temp to confirm it ! my opks are now + again yesterday it was negative !!! while before that it had been + for 3 days in a row !!! i also had a smiley on CBD on tuesday morning, could i have O last night and that be why my CM and cervix have change so much this AM, ladies help me please !!!

I read recently on here that the clomid can mess with your temps. AS said some docs tell you not to even bother temoing if on clomid! To go by the OPKs. You had positives right? I'd go by that, CP and CM is so unreliable.

[HopeandDreamG]

Oh, just saw about the opks, which ones are you using? Maybe you O'd twice. DTD again if your comfortable, can't hurt just increase chances of bfp. Has dh been releasing. If not, I would get him to release several times between now and an attempt.

[littlemissnaughty7]

yes i was using first response they have been + monday tuesday not yesterday but + this morning ! i also got a smiley on tuesday morning too, i have been using cheapie internet ones today and they have been + too !! but my temp hasnt rose yet ??

[sweetsister]

right well i am so frustrated i dont think the clomid has made me O yet my temp is still 36.5' C which is low but my CM this morning was very creamy and my cervix is very low and posterior and hard WTF !!! i thought i had already ovulated i was waiting for todays temp to confirm it ! my opks are now + again yesterday it was negative !!! while before that it had been + for 3 days in a row !!! i also had a smiley on CBD on tuesday morning, could i have O last night and that be why my CM and cervix have change so much this AM, ladies help me please !!!

It is so frustrating hey,well i think you just never know and dtd ,think as if you havent and then youll be covered,i didnt use opks while on clomid as they were so different everyday they confused me so i didnt trust them, i have major o cramps though?Do you or have you had any cramping yet?My temps were spot on and shot up after o?

[littlemissnaughty7]

ive had twinges and i have a pain on my right bum cheek right at the top in the middle like an ache but apert from that no, which is strange for me ive had bad ones before while on clomid ?

[prayforprincess]

Agree with Hope and Dream: There is no harm in dtd again, it only improves chances of pregnancy. And it does not sway boy, more sperm means more girls too! Your maternal condition will sway, not the timing or amount of sperm you have up there.

[littlemissnaughty7]

ok we will dtd tonight too and get DH to release 2 X before as he didnt FR yesterday as we thought i had already O, i hope i do O on clomid il be heartbroken if i dont,

[auroara78]

Firstly, congrats Pinkin!!!! Yay!!!

Surgena, I cannot believe they made you come down there at that butt crack of dawn time just to say we'll wait and see. Can't believe they won't give you anything to make your AF come???

LMN7, I would not worry about DTD'ing on O making it a boy sway. Plenty of girls are concieved on O day DTD'ing. I agree 200% with pray for princess that maternal condition being much more important.

A few things about ovualuting on which side thing. 1) Having pains on one side is not indicative of what side you actually O'ed from. I had pains/tugging from my left and O'ed from my right. This was confirmed by ultrasound.

2) I have followed up on this theory and read a lot about women who only have one tube/ovary remaining and any gender can be concieved from either ovary. I personally know two ladies at my work who both only have their right ovary (their left had to be removed) and one has G,G, B and the other has B, G so that proves that both genders can concieved from right. 3) I definitely think that left sided ovulation is STILL a good girly sign, so FX for Mocha :HH: mostly based on the idea that right sided ovulation can mean higher fertility, and that *can* translate to boy, but is no means supposed to mean that only right can produce boys. The fact is more women do ovulate from their right than the left.

Sorry for the lecture, but I wanted to clarify on some things that I've done a lot of personal research into it.

[littlemissnaughty7]

thanks auroara i love the what you have just wrote, i didnt even realise but my sister has one ovary ( her right ) and she has 3 children, G, B, G, so i 1000000% agree with you,

[sweetsister]

ive had twinges and i have a pain on my right bum cheek right at the top in the middle like an ache but apert from that no, which is strange for me ive had bad ones before while on clomid ?

You know i bet you are ovulating right now the opk are just picking up getting ready to and your temp hasnt risen yet probably cause you havent oed or are right now,but chill dont stress about it or you will delay it more,i personally have done this with stress you would be surprised how it can affect your body ,good luck:)

[purple sky]

Pink - Congratulations!! You are definitely a fertile myrtle :)

[HopeandDreamG]

Littlemiss- let us know what u decide!

Did my injection at 12 yay!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Does anyone know how many follies are average without fertility meds?

[rainbowflower]

Does anyone know how many follies are average without fertility meds?
I think it's about 15-20 start to mature, then you normally only get 2-3 dominant ones... and usually only one of those will "win" and be ovulated

[auroara78]

Hope N Dreams, so excited you'll be O'ing soon!!! whooo hooo, hopefully for a pink beanie!!!

[amari]

Sweetsister-I found the opks really hard to detect when I was o'ing on clomid. I think next cycle I am going to dtd a hell of a lot more just to be sure. The only problem is that with the whole no arousal thing and no lube on clomid how is anyone getting the job done on clomid?? I was dry as a bone, (i'm just sayin).

[HopeandDreamG]

Rainbow~ wow thats a lot. Thanks for the info! I had four follies! The u/s tech was in a big rush, she told me nothing I had to ask questions!

Auroara~ Thanks for being excited for me!!

Amari~ I have NO CM, and def feel dry. Been putting a tiny tiny bit of sylk on DH right before. Hopefully doesn't interfere with a BFP.

[pinkin2011]

Hey Girls, Thanks alot for you well wishes!! I did another test about 6 am was 9 hrs after the first one and it hasnt changed its no darker but thats ok with me because they say every couple of days the hcg doubles or something?? My d/h is away he wont be back until sat night and last night I had NO sleep i was thinking maybe i shouldnt get too excited yet could be nothing... but a faint pink line on 3 tests must be something right?

[KraizyDaizy]

So happy for you Pink! I cannot wait to read your girl sway. Remind me what all you did or did not do? Were you on Clomid?

[pinkin2011]

Hi Kraizy I feel a bit bad posting about MY bfp to all you girls that have been trying so hard for so long! I only really started last month and when i got that bfn i was so shattered and that was only one month of trying! I so hope you girls get preg next month!!! I will have everything crossed for you! Please pray for me that this is my real bfp!! even tho its faint its still a bfp right??

Anyway My sway was simple not much to it, so it will either help me or go against me but TBH i cant change things now so i will be happy with whatever the gender is as i only have 1 ds and he needs a bro or a sis!

My d/h didnt take anything but cut out red meat and coffee for 2 months.

Me: I took Vitex I cut out the saw palmetto in feb because i ran out and didnt think i was even going to attempt in feb. I was eating heaps of those equal tablets.. My ph was about a 4.

My diet went a bit out the window this month.. dec and jan I was so stickt and got real sick so i stopped after i got the bfn at the end of jan.. still no red meat tho for me and no breakfast. did eat potato tho.

I used Rephresh 24 hrs before we dtd i only used a finger of it tho. Used a bit of sylk on d/h as Got him to the point of no return then we dtd..

Only dtd once... I got a smile on my opk at 8 am tho i didnt get to do a opk day before so could of been a smile the night before.. I get VERY VERY bad o pain and so does my sister happens the same way every month..And i got that pain at 8pm the day i got the smile in the morning.. We didnt get to dtd until 7 am next morning and trust me it didnt happen easily! Took d/h forever and i didnt think it was going to happen so i think his T level was pretty low.. That was his 3r release in 24 hrs.. He released every day for 10 days before that too.
I think that is it I cant think of anything else atm

[KraizyDaizy]

Pink be proud of your BFP and don't worry about us long timers...I have 4 boys and feel selfish for trying to add another to the bunch so if we get pregnant I really think it will be a miracle.

Thanks for sharing your info. How old are you and DH? Was he releasing for 10 days morning and night?

Equal tablets? what are those?

[pinkin2011]

I am 28 and d/h is 29.. And no he only released once a day for the 10 days.. there is no way he could release twice a day for 10 days he prob wouldnt even be able to do that for 2 days in a row

"Equal" tablets are those fake sugar that you put in tea and coffee you get them at the supermarket, they have aspartame in them so help lower your ph.. i used to et about 50 a day!! they taste horrible i would just swallow them down with a glass of water

[dannikins]

woohoo pinkin!!!!!:cheerteam:

thats fantastic, what kind of tests did you use?
to have all of them with faint lines HAS to be something good..:)

[KraizyDaizy]

I am 28 and d/h is 29.. And no he only released once a day for the 10 days.. there is no way he could release twice a day for 10 days he prob wouldnt even be able to do that for 2 days in a row

"Equal" tablets are those fake sugar that you put in tea and coffee you get them at the supermarket, they have aspartame in them so help lower your ph.. i used to et about 50 a day!! they taste horrible i would just swallow them down with a glass of water

I did not know they came in tablets? I knew they had packets, but not tablets. And how did you get over the headache that the aspartame causes?

[GeCon]

"Equal" tablets are those fake sugar that you put in tea and coffee you get them at the supermarket, they have aspartame in them so help lower your ph.. i used to et about 50 a day!! they taste horrible i would just swallow them down with a glass of water

Sorry if this is a silly question, but 50 tablets a day, is this safe?

[pinkin2011]

Dannikins I used First Response... Yesterday i was quite dehydrated and i did drink a bit before bed which i went to be at 12am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and as i said it was only 9 hrs since i did the first test!! I know me I will test agin tonight i will just limit my intake of water today.

KD I never thought about the headache until now.. yeah i guess i did suffer a bit from them but i did drink a glass of water with them.. It didnt seem to bother me that much really.. And yes they come in little tabs have a look in the supremarket where the other equal packets are

[pinkin2011]

I have no idea?????????????? It would easily be between 30 and 50 a day around o and before o

[purplepoet20]

I will step in and say on the "aspartame" safety side.... Some people can have a really bad reaction to aspartame and others can handle a lot. If you start to have headaches stop it right away.

And for a pink sway you really only need a small amount each day. I used to do a total of 6 packets a day but anymore then that and I got headaches. I did move to splenda in the last 4mths to avoid the risk of being on aspartame for such a long time.

[GeCon]

And for a pink sway you really only need a small amount each day. I used to do a total of 6 packets a day but anymore then that and I got headaches. I did move to splenda in the last 4mths to avoid the risk of being on aspartame for such a long time.

How much aspartame would 6 packets a day amount to?

[pinkin2011]

I will step in and say on the "aspartame" safety side.... Some people can have a really bad reaction to aspartame and others can handle a lot. If you start to have headaches stop it right away.

And for a pink sway you really only need a small amount each day. I used to do a total of 6 packets a day but anymore then that and I got headaches. I did move to splenda in the last 4mths to avoid the risk of being on aspartame for such a long time.

Yeah i dont know if id like to take it for months... But around o i would up it to 30 or 50 easily.. other days id just take a fair few

[littlemissnaughty7]

well guys we just dtd the last time if i dont get a temp rise tomorrow i will def not have O yet and poor DH will be FR again 2 x a day like he has so far 3 x today poor chap, we had to dtd doggy for him to finish his T level must of been low he said he had no feeling for ages and then it just came out of knowhere and bobs ya uncle lol,

[littlemissnaughty7]

wow pinkin thats tons of aspartame dont let AS here about that lol,

[prayforprincess]

pinkin I am so happy for you! I think you are definitely gonna get your girl! Di you lay there or do j&d? A positive is a positive it does not matter how dark. Those first response rarely ever give a false positive. And in my experience they never get that dark. I took them the day before my blood test when I was preggo with twins and got a light line. The next day my blood was 327. You would think that high beta would be a dark hpt but no, it was still light. You gotta probably be like 5 weeks along to get a dark test.
Totally a bfp!!! Have you told your dh yet or are you gonna surprise him on Saturday! Grill him a Rib-eye with mashed potatoes and lay the test on the plate!

hope&dream, ya for o-ing and try to get in lots of attempts! best of luck!

[prayforprincess]

What do u all think?? Need to make a decision.
My parents are going to a really amazing restaurant tonight and i really wanna go?? But of course that means eating...I am 7dpo, so could be pregnant, but won't know til next week.
Should I go?? I wanna eat the Roasted Winter Squash & Goat Cheese Salade toasted almonds, honey orange vinaigrette, Escargot, and for my entree Cinnamon & Vanilla Duck duck breast & confit leg, crispy risotto cake, roasted butternut squash. spinach,cinnamon vanilla glace. Is that so bad???
Can you tell I am soooo hungry and can't wait to eat??!!
I realize its not the diet but I have never really cheated and dtd 5x in 48 hours on o-1, 0 & o+1...I gotta be pregnant right? At least its not red meat.
Thoughts???

[Mochagirl]

I always gave myself a cheat day when af arrived. Maybe you could consider this your cheat day in case you don't get your BFP? Personally, I chose to stay vegetarian even on my cheat days, though I didn't worry about fat, calories, sodium or protein. I'm sure one night of duck and escargots won't hurt anything, though, if that's really what you have your heart set on.

[dannikins]

i think you are fine to go.
one cheat day in the TWW isnt going to kill your sway.

[prayforprincess]

thanks girls -- that is what I thought. But my mom is telling me that she thinks I have come this far and to wait it out til next week when I know for sure. I can go out when I get my bfp next week, until then I should hang tight so that I have no regrets going into next month if I get a bfn.
She is just afraid that if I am not pg this month and get pg with a boy next month I will blame it on this dinner.
Grrr! I am just sooooo flippin HUNGRY!!!! I have been on this diet for 9 weeks and always been fine,,,,its 8pm and I haven't eatin since noon and I am not really hungry. But for some reason yesterday and today I am so hungry I could eat my arm off!!!! I hope its a sign that I am pg!!

[pinkin2011]

Thanks PFP... I did another brand test and i got a line on that too so i guess i am preg but dtill 4 days away from af so will pray its not a chemical!! I told d/h he is away working , he is due back sat.. I could not keep it from him i so wanted to but it just rolled off my tongue!! He is soooooo sooooo happy , when i told him he said your joking why are you doing this to me and i said No Its no joke I am pregnant he is over the moon! The line i got on the other brand test is darker then the frer strange!! anyway i just had to try and different brand just for piece of mind. I know with an attempt like you had this month you have got to get you bfp!! and no i didnt do a jand dump because i had used rephresh AND i just wanted to get preg... didnt show it with only dtd once tho did i??
Oh and my sysmptoms for this month was nothing compared to last month and i got a bfn then!!
I have had alot of left side cramping ( not saying that means anthing) and my boobs are huge and so sore i kep getting like a itchy shock kind of feeling in them

[prayforprincess]

Wow pinkin -- so really not many symptoms this time around. I have never had any symptoms with my boys and when I was pregger's in May I felt nothing. Started to get nauseous etc. approaching 6 weeks but then miscarried.
With my boys I never felt anything til 6 weeks, so I don't know why I am looking for signs now when I have never had any before. I hope I am you Tuesday morning.
My mother just told me on the phone -- I don't think you are pregnant. I said "What?? Why would you say that??" She said because I want it too much and am trying too hard. I said "whatever", the sperm just need to get to the egg, it does not know how hungry I am and how much I am wanting this so that I can eat again. Plus I was so happy with my sway this month so I really hope it worked. Don't know how much longer I can stick with it. It is soooo hard. I couldn't do more than I am or than I did.
Oh, I wish I could get this off my mind -- I hate the 2ww! Its killer!

[pinkin2011]

I know how you feel, I was thinking i am out for sure this month thru lack of symptoms.. I have noticed i have been going to the toilet a fair bit too the last couple of days which was another sign for me.. I really hope you get your bfp!!! I will be stalking you! how many dpo are you?

[prayforprincess]

Tomorrow will be 7/8dpo. I o'ed early early morning, like 2am on Fri. 3/17. By 6:30am I already had my temp spike.
Testing on Tuesday, will be 11/12dpo. I feel it should show by then, no? Definitely by Wedn. With the Frer they are supposed to pick it up by 4 day before missed af. Missed af would be Sunday, so a bfp should show by Wedn. -- hopefully earlier. I was not going to test til later but I can't wait to get off this diet and I don't think its ideal if I am pregnant.
I am due for af next Sat.am 3/3. I usually have 14-15 day lp's.
I already have a dinner reservation at Ruth's Chris in Boston set for next Saturday night if I am pg.

[pinkin2011]

I have 15 day lp's and i am due 28th for af.. i got the line last night at 10dpo but it was only 9 days after our attempt... I swear i may have seen a line the day before but i may not of.. I know i didnt get a bfp until i was 2 days late with my d/s on a normal test not a frer so im not sure maybe leave it at 11dpo and i think you " should " know by then

[purple sky]

PFP - hang in there, hopefully you will get your bfp and you can eat whatever you want soon :)

I will start testing at 9dpo which is Sunday! I have absolutely no symptoms except sore bbs but i've had that since 2 days before O so that really means nothing. Not counting on anything this month.

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ I love what you said to your mom- its so true sperm just needs to meet egg it has nothing to do with how badly you want it. Dh wants to go to dinner next week Friday night. It will be about a week past O. I figured I would get a salad. still be vegeterian. I will go over sodium, cals, and probably protein. If the egg is already fertilized the food I eat is not changing the gender! I will keep glucose low, skip breakfast, but I don't think one meal will make the egg not implant. I like the Ruth Chris idea. I've been toying with where we are going to go with a BFP. I'm thinking China Town in NYC for peking duck!!!

What do you ladies think~ I have been dtd everyday since Monday. I would have started Wednesday but I started Monday bc I thought my injection was going to be Tuesday not Thursday. Anyway, did the injection yesterday, so this am we dtd and will again in the pm. With all this baby dancing going on I had a gross smell (sorry, nasty) so I just used rephresh thinking all the DTD is raising my ph. I only wanted to use half, but way more came out then I planned. Now I'm regretting it a little. I can't test CM because I have none like NONE even trying to get from my cervix. I'm worried I hindered conception right on the day I probably should O. and I was hoping with 4 follicles to possible get two eggs, and now that doesn't seem likely using the rephresh. Am I being ridiculous?? Thoughts. Thanks

[prayforprincess]

PFP - hang in there, hopefully you will get your bfp and you can eat whatever you want soon :)

I will start testing at 9dpo which is Sunday! I have absolutely no symptoms except sore bbs but i've had that since 2 days before O so that really means nothing. Not counting on anything this month.

9dpo is Sunday for me too! We must have o'ed the same day...the 17th? I think I am too nervous to test that early. Have you ever gotten a positive that early at 9dpo? I feel like I have always had late implanter's.

[prayforprincess]

What do you ladies think~ I have been dtd everyday since Monday. I would have started Wednesday but I started Monday bc I thought my injection was going to be Tuesday not Thursday. Anyway, did the injection yesterday, so this am we dtd and will again in the pm. With all this baby dancing going on I had a gross smell (sorry, nasty) so I just used rephresh thinking all the DTD is raising my ph. I only wanted to use half, but way more came out then I planned. Now I'm regretting it a little. I can't test CM because I have none like NONE even trying to get from my cervix. I'm worried I hindered conception right on the day I probably should O. and I was hoping with 4 follicles to possible get two eggs, and now that doesn't seem likely using the rephresh. Am I being ridiculous?? Thoughts. Thanks

That happens to me all the time -- I think I am squeezing just a tiny bit and the whole thing comes out. You don't have to squeeze all the way for the entire amount to come out -- its only a little bit anyway.
I think you did a good thing. You lowered your ph before the egg has been released, good. And also, you already have all that sperm up there -- 3-4 attemps are still alive easy. Using rephresh after the fact is going to do nothing to those sperm cause they are already out of your vg and into a safe place. The rephresh cannot touch them or affect them in any way -- they are gone! It may affect the sperm in your attempt following using the rephresh but that is probably the extent of it. The in and out of dtd, dh releasing etc. washes some of it away and therefore your attempt after that you will still be fine.
No worries, you are all good!!!

[prayforprincess]

WTF! I just plugged in my temp on ff and they changed my ovulation from cd11 to cd13. Now I myslef did not think I o'ed on cd11, I thought it was more like early morning cd12. But I don't think it is cd13 either! I still think I o'ed on cd12. I got my +opk on cd11, and then I started to have really bad bloating and ovulation cramps all thru cd12 into the afternoon on cd13. Plus when I woke up cd12 I had had an ever so tiny tiny bit of spotting and I read that could mean you are ovulating.
I am just so nervous now...I don't know what to think. We went out to dinner Sunday night and I had some chicken because I thought I already o'ed. I mean, I know by that point I did o, and I keep telling myself that even if I did o on cd13 (saturday), most likely by Sunday night my egg was either already dead or fertilized cause the sperm was all up there waiting.
I still think it was cd12 -- can't change it now. I just wish now that we dtd on Saturday just incase that was my o day, but my dh was so done and tired from all the bding. We dtd Wed. night, Thur morning & night, and Fri morning & night. I think I o'ed that Friday, ff thinks I o'ed on Saturday.
Do you all think I am freaking over nothing. I still have a good chance, no?

[HopeandDreamG]

Prayforprincess~ thanks..its true all my previous attempts are still at work. I guess i'm worried about tonights attempt and tomorrow (my last) that if I released a 2nd egg I wanted sperm to meet it.....Oh well, its too late, did the rephresh have to stay relaxed and move on! I might have worried if I didn't do it too! Theres a trade off to everything I guess

[littlemissnaughty7]

im going for a huge meal tonight with meat yes meat i hear you say lol, well AS told me that once you have confirmed O you can have a cheat day once a month, she said this was fine when i asked her and that it would do nothing to our sway, even have meat it will not matter one bit, so for just one meal hun eat what the hell you like !

[littlemissnaughty7]

if your still worried PM her and ask her ,

[prayforprincess]

I seem to have more of a grasp and objective/realistic output with other's than I do myself.
My temp had already risen over 98 by Sunday, confirming o had happened and no matter what I ate Sunday night could not have affected the outcome. What was going to be, was already by then.
I am just a 911 drama freak I think.

[HopeandDreamG]

WTF! I just plugged in my temp on ff and they changed my ovulation from cd11 to cd13. Now I myslef did not think I o'ed on cd11, I thought it was more like early morning cd12. But I don't think it is cd13 either! I still think I o'ed on cd12. I got my +opk on cd11, and then I started to have really bad bloating and ovulation cramps all thru cd12 into the afternoon on cd13. Plus when I woke up cd12 I had had an ever so tiny tiny bit of spotting and I read that could mean you are ovulating.
I am just so nervous now...I don't know what to think. We went out to dinner Sunday night and I had some chicken because I thought I already o'ed. I mean, I know by that point I did o, and I keep telling myself that even if I did o on cd13 (saturday), most likely by Sunday night my egg was either already dead or fertilized cause the sperm was all up there waiting.
I still think it was cd12 -- can't change it now. I just wish now that we dtd on Saturday just incase that was my o day, but my dh was so done and tired from all the bding. We dtd Wed. night, Thur morning & night, and Fri morning & night. I think I o'ed that Friday, ff thinks I o'ed on Saturday.
Do you all think I am freaking over nothing. I still have a good chance, no?

You are def freaking over nothing. Still totally possible you O'd when you thought, and even if its when FF is saying you still have an EXCELLENCT chance. With all that bding anyway, another attempt might not have counted for much anyway :) do you have a link to your chart?

[HopeandDreamG]

I seem to have more of a grasp and objective/realistic output with other's than I do myself.
My temp had already risen over 98 by Sunday, confirming o had happened and no matter what I ate Sunday night could not have affected the outcome. What was going to be, was already by then.
I am just a 911 drama freak I think.

No you not. Its because this is beyond incredibly important to us, our own objectivity goes out the window. Words cannot describe the gender DESIRE going on here!

[littlemissnaughty7]

hun you do whatever you feel comfortable with,

[prayforprincess]

You are def freaking over nothing. Still totally possible you O'd when you thought, and even if its when FF is saying you still have an EXCELLENCT chance. With all that bding anyway, another attempt might not have counted for much anyway :) do you have a link to your chart?

You are right. I most likely did ovulate on Friday like I thought. And even if it was Saturday like ff says, one more attempt Saturday morning would have just gotten lost up there with all the swimmers that were already hanging out, and by Sunday morning it would have already been fertilized.
I just wish that o had not sneaked up on me like it did, I am happy with our bd-ing, but I wish I could have been a bit stricter on the diet through o. Not that I was bad, still roughly 1100-1200 calories, under 25 grams fat, 40 grams protein or under, & only eating 2x a day since af -- I just wanted to be a little more strict. I think I am just being really hard on myself. Its like once you get the bfp you can't go back and you question everything you did and was it enough?
If only I didn't want her so badly this would be so much easier.
I thought high tech was emotional and hard, ttc naturally is not too far behind. The 2ww is still just as brutal, only with knowing that you always have next month where as with ht its just over.

[HopeandDreamG]

I feel like no matter what we do we find something that we could have done a bit different. I'm totally regretting the rephresh action this morning. I cannot bear the idea of having to do this again!! The diet being the worst part.

Regarding your diet in the 2 WW, At that many calories you are still be totally strict. And once its fertilized the gender deal is sealed! and there's no way that a bit looser in cals or any other area is not gonna let the bean implant. Our species would have died out a long time ago!

[Mochagirl]

pfp - atomic has said several times that there's no need to restrict your diet even more around O. I think you had a great sway and should have no regrets.

[Mochagirl]

hope - I'm sorry you're regretting the rephresh. I had many cycles where I did the same thing - used a bunch of rephresh then immediately regretted it. Remember that lots of women get pregnant even though they use a full tube of rephresh on the same day as O, and some even use some afterwards too. I'm sending you some baby dust! :HH:

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks Mocha because I am REALLY REALLY regretting it right now. This is when the bding is counting and I just put up a road block. Wishing I can undue it, and if I release a second egg I decreased the chance of getting it S%#T!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Well I just took a digital and a cheapie HPT to make sure the injection took: got my smiley and got my positive HPT. Hooray!! Means the injection should be working. I am really mad mad mad :hair: that I did the rephresh this am after dtd this am.....want the spermies later this pm and tomorrow to have a chance. :mad: I hate when I wish I can turn back time! Ahhhh
should I douche with warm water? will this do anything.... I gotta stop being mad at myself cause I don't wanna stress and delay O (if thats possible with the meds? just not helpful either way).

[prayforprincess]

I think your attempt tomorrow will be totally fine. Many people rephresh the day before and get pregnant. Especially if you bd tonight. That will totally wash some away. When you bd tonight have your dh release deep inside you, that way the sperm still get up there and don't have to go thru much/if any of the rephresh. And then tomorrow do your thing. It will be fine. Like I said, if you have worries then have him release deep up there.

[purple sky]

Well I just took a digital and a cheapie HPT to make sure the injection took: got my smiley and got my positive HPT. Hooray!! Means the injection should be working. I am really mad mad mad :hair: that I did the rephresh this am after dtd this am.....want the spermies later this pm and tomorrow to have a chance. :mad: I hate when I wish I can turn back time! Ahhhh
should I douche with warm water? will this do anything.... I gotta stop being mad at myself cause I don't wanna stress and delay O (if thats possible with the meds? just not helpful either way).

The last thing you want to do is stress. I think you have a great chance. As others have said many have gotten pregnant using rephresh so close to O. I think water has a ph of 7 but the rephresh should counteract that (i think)

[HopeandDreamG]

Thanks prayforprincess~ will have him release deep, which we really have been doing anyway. Still planning on dtd tonight and tomorrow. Maybe I should have an am and pm attempt tomorrow too?

[HopeandDreamG]

The last thing you want to do is stress. I think you have a great chance. As others have said many have gotten pregnant using rephresh so close to O. I think water has a ph of 7 but the rephresh should counteract that (i think)

good point thats not gonna work...arrrrr

[prayforprincess]

am & pm sounds good. it certainly can't hurt. the more you bd the greater the pg chances are

[HopeandDreamG]

So I'm trying to focus on other things! In two weeks on March 8th I go for a blood test to see if I get a BFP. Hcg's will be useless bc I will get false positives due to the injection. The next day I should have the result my 9yr. wedding anniversary. Tuesday was DH's bday the beginning of our baby dancing for this attempt!

Even stranger- the due date I had for the pregnancy that ended was my SIL's (brothers wife) bday (don't have a relationship with either one of them/lots of bad blood there started bc of issues with her and her bday!!) How IRONIC...My first attempt was in November and instead of a BFP I got sick as could be for 2 months-the test date for that attempt to see if it worked my brothers bday!! Just not meant to be!

[prayforprincess]

You can take hpt. The trigger shot is out of your system 10 days after you take it. So as of 8dpo, the trigger shot is out of your body. Take a test at 8dp and you will see, it will be negative (negative b/c the hcg is outta your system and b/c a positive pregnancy would not show that early).

[HopeandDreamG]

thanks that makes sense, and I guess if its positive at 8dpo its a false positive?

[rainbowflower]

You can take hpt. The trigger shot is out of your system 10 days after you take it. So as of 8dpo, the trigger shot is out of your body. Take a test at 8dp and you will see, it will be negative (negative b/c the hcg is outta your system and b/c a positive pregnancy would not show that early).

well... I got my bfp at 8dpo!

[prayforprincess]

Wow that is super early rainbow. Was it really really faint?

Hope&Dream -- I am just saying...if you wanna take a hpt you can. Take one at 7dpo and see what it says, most likely it will be negative by then too. I always started taking them at 9dpo, or 4dp5dt and they were all negative by then. Only got a positive with one of my cycles where I was pregnant and that was at 6dp5dt, so 11dpo. with that cycle I only took one at 4 & 6dp5dt, but most likely if I had taken one at 5dp, or 10dpo it would have been positive.
I would give it a shot. If you are getting bfp at 10dpo & 11dpo then those are real positives because the trigger is out of you system by then.

[rainbowflower]

Wow that is super early rainbow. Was it really really faint?

Hope&Dream -- I am just saying...if you wanna take a hpt you can. Take one at 7dpo and see what it says, most likely it will be negative by then too. I always started taking them at 9dpo, or 4dp5dt and they were all negative by then. Only got a positive with one of my cycles where I was pregnant and that was at 6dp5dt, so 11dpo. with that cycle I only took one at 4 & 6dp5dt, but most likely if I had taken one at 5dp, or 10dpo it would have been positive.
I would give it a shot. If you are getting bfp at 10dpo & 11dpo then those are real positives because the trigger is out of you system by then.
I agree, it's good to see a negative before a new positive after a trigger

yeah it was quite faint!
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I got a BFP at 9dpo in the evening for my first pregnancy, so did hope I might get an 8dpo one

[prayforprincess]

holy moly, that is very there! That is dark for 8dpo.
Tomorrow I am 8dpo. Was that with your fmu? Lucky you. I don't think I would ever have one that early. I am too afraid to try because once I start testing I cannot stop -- I then have to test every morning there after til af come. That is why I think I will start 11dpo. 10dpo soonest.

[HopeandDreamG]

well... I got my bfp at 8dpo!

I guess I'll be going crazy trying to figure it out!! I'll be going for the blood test regardless :)