TTC Blue Crew Grads

[ELP]

I think there's a setting with your sig to show it on all or just new posts... On my phone right now or I would check for you!:agree: ThankS Skrimpy! I'll check it out!

[Flava]

No chocolate craving here that early Flava:) Could be a Sign of a hungry boy;)

I have a ticker!! But it only ShoWS on neW poStS???!!!

Hungry boy huh? more like hungry big momma:rofl:
I see your ticker it's so cute!

Just send DH to buy a treadmill for me ! There is no way I want to get any more fat then this!:nono: I know I will be bigger but I read a lot how to eat very healthy in pregnancy(what we suppose to do anyway) so hopefully I don't put on much at all.
And for the first time I will workout pregnant. LOL Just walking on the treadmill and maybe some preg. dvd. I really hope walking helps it did when we had a dog.
Anyone else working out?

[ELP]

Anyone else working out?
Not at the minute but I Will begin very Soon! My eating haS Settled So I've Started cutting out the complete rubbiSh lol, I'm currently 11St 8lb, the Same Weight I delivered my laSt baby at! We can keep a track of thingS here:agree:

[Cheekymoo]

Uhhh working out and the dreaded weight subject!!!!!!

I have been excersising - it's called the hand to mouth program LOL
but seriously...I have kept up weights once a week and some walking but it has been FAR overshadowed by the JUNK and quantitiy of food I have been eating - I really have had a complete lack of control regarding food- I am actually starting to get a bit back now I don't feel awful anymore but with the sway weight PLUS this last three months the best I can hope for the rest of the pregnancy is to limit further damaged with moderating my food a little more and keeping up some excersise........I weighed 14 weeks what i weighed at like 25 weeks last pregnancy :( ah well another reason for hoping the sway worked!!- as Jen said she isn't fatter for no reason!

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- I totally think you should post your sway, no vultures like on IG. I've really only bought the going home from the hospital outfit but I still need some booties and a hat. Too cold in Feb In Utah for him to not have booties and a hat :) Oh yeah for me it was peanut butter cups lol And it could be a hungry boy, I was starving from 10dpo! No formal exercise for me, I've been so, so tired still.

Baby- I was positive I'd hear girl, the closer the u/s got I'd lost all hope and was ready for my life full of daughters. Jokes on me huh lol
After 9 years of thinking about having a son I honestly still feel like we're pretending. I keep looking at the u/s pics for any grey area but pic after pic it's so obvious. I don't think I'll truly believe till I see the goods for my self.
I am carrying a bit lower this time but I honestly wonder if it's due to weak abs. I was a crazy exercise girl with my others so I had great abs, this time abs were weak so the baby could just pop right out.

ELP- Yeah a ticker!! Will you be finding out and when? My eating is finally getting better too which is funny cause now I'm putting on weight. Eating candy bars and I lost, eating veg and I'm gaining lol

OOH cheeky me too, walking to the kitchen is my major form of exercise lol I've decided that every sway lb was absolutely necessary, I refuse to think 5 would have done it lol

I posted over on the other thread but I'll post it here too, we're zeroing in on his name. DH favors the first one but we probably won't decide till we see that sweet little face.
Charles Robert, after my uncle who married us and my dad, we'll call him Charlie.
Owen Robert, I love the first name and again the middle name is after my dad.

[Flava]

hey girls Im bleeding so I think it's over for me again...this would be lost #8 so sick of it...don't know what to do...DH said no more ttc but IF he say yes I suppose to go to store buy and order sups ect. and Im just sitting here .

Jen_ I Like Owen! Like Charles too but it's so common I think.

[nuthinbutpink]

hey girls Im bleeding so I think it's over for me again...this would be lost #8 so sick of it...don't know what to do...DH said no more ttc but IF he say yes I suppose to go to store buy and order sups ect. and Im just sitting here .

Jen_ I Like Owen! Like Charles too but it's so common I think.

Flav- have you ever had your progesterone level checked? Can you go now and go get it checked?

[Flava]

Flav- have you ever had your progesterone level checked? Can you go now and go get it checked?

They did checked with my last m/c and it was good. Not all my m/c was in a row.
Im just sad and don't know why is this going on now...I did not even went to the doc yet they don't really like if you show up so early.

[babydes56]

Flava, i'm sorry this has happened to you again! Have they investigated why you've had so many m/c's? How are you feeling today?

3P1B, just realised your name has changed, lovely! I'm sure you right about the muscles & carrying lower, i'm carrying much bigger too this time. Tomorrow's the big day!! I'm feeling relaxed about it for some reason & i dont know if it's because a friend of mine just had a baby girl & she's just too cute. Well we'll see how i feel tomorrow once i get in for scan, i'll probably freak out..wish me luck

[3Pink1Blue]

Baby- thanks, I love my new name :) I too am carrying bigger. I'm even measuring big but luckily he's right on track with my o date. I was numb coming up to my u/s, positive I'd hear girl. So excited for you tomorrow!

[Flava]

I think i come back next time girls. Hopefully pregnant with a healthy boy who will stay with me.

[3Pink1Blue]

Big hugs Flava.

[Cheekymoo]

oh hugs Flava- so sorry for your loss, hope your back soon.

Babydes- ??? Today is THE big scan?? So exciting- will check back later :)

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Sorry Flava! Give yourself sometime in between cycles...

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Yea, I have a scan coming up (12 week), will feel better after that.

[ELP]

You'll be back quick as that Flava, I'm sure of it;):hugs:

[ELP]

Best of luck today babyD!!!

[babydes56]

It's a girl!! I just knew it but still had hope. I was surprised at how fine i was when the tech said she thinks it's a girl because i didnt expect i'd be that ok with it. I think as the days go by the reality of not having a son is going to kick in & upset me but today i feel fine. DH looked disappointed but says he's fine & that the main thing is the baby's healthy

[3Pink1Blue]

Congrats on your baby girl!!

[Cheekymoo]

Congrats on your healthy little bundle :) so glad that everything looks good with her ! I am sure you will fall in love when you meet her.

Just remember to let yourself of the hook for however you may feel for the next few days xo

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Congrats Babydes- glad you are feeling peace about it....

[Foxy]

Babydes - Congratulations on your sweet baby girl! I'm glad that everything looks good with her. :)

[Foxy]

Flava - I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope it wont be long before we see you again!

[ELP]

Congratulations on a precious baby girl to join your family babyDxxx Just wait til you meet her, she will be the most precious thing you've ever seen, I promise xxxxx

[babydes56]

Thanks ladies, i'm still in shock at how well i feel about it, good thing isnt it? Like i said i dont know how i'll feel later & like Begonia said it's what people are going to say about 3 girls that's going to upset me more. I'll also feel sad knowing i wont ever have a son but hey what we want doesnt necessarily mean that's what's intended for us in this life. I've been telling myself that having this girl is a true blessing & even the stupid comments people will make wont matter soon. It took me over a yr to fall preg so i am happy to have this girl & i know we will all love her to bits

[begonia]

It's a girl!! I just knew it but still had hope. I was surprised at how fine i was when the tech said she thinks it's a girl because i didnt expect i'd be that ok with it. I think as the days go by the reality of not having a son is going to kick in & upset me but today i feel fine. DH looked disappointed but says he's fine & that the main thing is the baby's healthy

Babydes, I will say ... I felt the exact same ... "I just knew it but still had hope." For some reason I just *knew* it was another girl for us too. I will say I think you're spot on, as the days go by you'll likely have some days that are a little harder than others. It takes time to shift the mental picture I think. For the past 3 years, since I knew DD2 was a girl, I had been envisioning our family with a blue caboose. Heck I saw myself with 3 boys before we had any kids, so with every girl I've had to let go of part of my dream. So that has made it very hard to let this one go, because I just SAW it so vividly, and now ... I keep trying to change the dream to fit the reality. Occasionally that makes me smile, picturing my 3 daughters, but more often I do get sad thinking we'll never have a son. I know it will be easier once she arrives and I can kiss her sweet face. But I also know I'm probably never going to stop wishing I had a son. Just have to learn to live with it; life isn't always what we want it to be but it's still good :)

Have to run now, but wanted to say congratulations, and I understand how you feel! HUGS! I hope you keep coming around. I pop in now and again and I'm sure eventually will be able to come back. Today I just had to check on you!

[begonia]

Thanks ladies, i'm still in shock at how well i feel about it, good thing isnt it? Like i said i dont know how i'll feel later & like Begonia said it's what people are going to say about 3 girls that's going to upset me more. I'll also feel sad knowing i wont ever have a son but hey what we want doesnt necessarily mean that's what's intended for us in this life. I've been telling myself that having this girl is a true blessing & even the stupid comments people will make wont matter soon. It took me over a yr to fall preg so i am happy to have this girl & i know we will all love her to bits

I keep reminding myself how many of those boy moms I envy (oh there is one with 3 of the CUTEST, stabs me every time I see them) would love to have a daughter. My grandmother told me if we all threw our problems in a pile and saw what everyone else was dealing with, we'd grab ours back in a second.

And I love what you said that what we want doesn't necessarily mean what is intended for us in life. It's true. Hard to accept, but if we can just want what we have we'll all be happier. Easier said than done for sure but I know I'm working on it.

Hope you went out and bought something special for your newest little lady :) Congrats again on a healthy little one!

[TTC5]

It's a girl!! I just knew it but still had hope. I was surprised at how fine i was when the tech said she thinks it's a girl because i didnt expect i'd be that ok with it. I think as the days go by the reality of not having a son is going to kick in & upset me but today i feel fine. DH looked disappointed but says he's fine & that the main thing is the baby's healthy

Congrats on your little girl! How many daughters do you have? xx

[3Pink1Blue]

I've said it before and I'll say it again I LOVE having 3 daughters, screw people and their shitty comments :) We wanted 4 so we swayed, we didn't go for 4 in pursuit of a boy. We were fully prepared for and looking forward to a life with 4 girls. It sucks a bit in theory but it's fab once you line up all those lovely little people.

[babydes56]

B, i'm the same as you in that i saw myself with at least a son but now that dream is all gone & it's upsetting. Last night DH was snoring so i woke up & laid in bed thinking wow i'm having another girl & could we have done things differently. I blamed him for smoking & for being a vegetarian but then i stopped myself & said i cant change what's done & therefore there's no point in dwelling over it. I soooo wanted to prove those who said "oh it's another girl" wrong especially someone who keeps mentioning how awful teenage girls are compared to boys aaargh!

Nevermind, just keep telling yourself that all this wont matter once we see our darling daughters

[begonia]

Babydes ... ditto. I really have had many of the same thoughts, couldn't sleep over it for a couple of days, kept waking up in tears. It is getting better though and I'm only a week into knowing. It's hard because, in my opinion, my sway (yours too, and Freya's, and DebH...) was a very solid effort. So like you I do come back to it being a DH factor ... and what can I do about that?!? He has said if this is a girl (since he still doesn't know) then maybe it just means we aren't done ... but honestly I can't think of what I'd change with my sway so I don't know what to do differently IF there's a next time.

Hugs ... TTC5 started a support thread in the blue forum and I might post there, because I do need some help with some stuff and other multiple girl moms hopefully can help me out.

Jen, can't thank you enough for the encouragement re: 3 girls. Keep at it, I need it, LOL!

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I agree everyone had a great sway and in the end I do think there's still a huge element of luck.

I can encourage all day I truly love my little pink crew and can't imagine my life any other way :) This was the first pics of my girls together, dd3 was less then an hour old. The second is about a week later.
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[begonia]

Ok see Jen those pics make me cry! (It doesn't take much lately,LOL!) Those are so sweet!!! Thank you for sharing them :)

Luck sucks :rofl: I was explaining to a friend (again, just under the "assumption" this bean is female, which most people readily buy since really ... we have 4 sets of friends with 3 girls already) that this is the only thing in life I feel like I haven't gotten what I wanted. I've been VERY lucky/blessed/what have you in everything except the fact that I desperately wanted a son. So ... I try to remember that. I'm a lucky girl in general, and SUPER SUPER lucky to even have the 3 kids that I do. Perspective is hard to keep sometimes but I'm trying!

[skrimpy]

Jen your girls are so lovely!

Here's the sweet little face giggling beside me (she's supposed to be nursing to sleep :p)

Baby girls are so much fun!

[begonia]

OH Skrimpy! What a DOLL!!!!

I do love baby girls when I see them :) I just can't bear the pre-teen/teen girls I see at the mall ... YIKES. That's where I get truly scared about THREE girls! Eeeeeeek!

[3Pink1Blue]

You're welcome B, I have tons of those pics. For dd3's first year I took one every month :)

I get the unjust feeling. I never thought I'd have one dd let alone 3, I too lack the girly gene. It took a good 6/7 years to truly embrace it all and now they paint their nails, play flag football with the neighborhood boys, love dress up and climb trees. It all evens out and is a damn fun ride. Remember pre-teens, well all kids for that matter, are obnoxious because their parents let them be. We don't have to let them be mouthy and entitled.

Awe skrimpy what a great smile, perfect little cherub!

[ELP]

Ladies those kids are beautiful!! They've made me well up aswell and I'm meant to be getting the kids ready for school lol! Jen your DD2 could be my DD4! I have no recent pictures due to the usual technical breakdowns in this house, but I'll get one and show you:)

[ELP]

OH Skrimpy! What a DOLL!!!!

I do love baby girls when I see them :) I just can't bear the pre-teen/teen girls I see at the mall ... YIKES. That's where I get truly scared about THREE girls! Eeeeeeek!

Just remember those trashy little 'females' are only the tip of the iceburg, the rest of the girls are at home with us, safe and cared about xxx

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Yea- I assume that my dd won't necessarily be one of those girls. I wasn't too bad. I think I was pretty cute- and my parents weren't too strict on talking back, etc. I am more consistent with training/discipline so hopefully that will help!

[Foxy]

Beautiful babies, ladies!!!

Begonia - I have two teen girls and it isn't as bad as I thought, lol. Don't worry about it!

[babydes56]

Awww Jen/Skrimpy those girls are gorgeous!! Thank you all for the lovely words of encouragement. Been feeling bad for a couple of days because i've lost interest in the baby...i heard myself speaking to the baby saying "just bear with mommy for a bit while i mourn the son i'll never have". Feel awful for feeling like this but i know it will pass in time. Hope baby understands

[babydes56]

B, you only 33 am i right so maybe you could try for another one. It's too late for me i'm 39

[babydes56]

Another thing i find myself saying when i'm out & about & see boys/men i'm like there are so many of them so surely they arent hard to conceive so why have i not managed to do that?? I know someone who's absolutely rejoicing that i'm having a girl because she's always been jealous of me & now that she has a boy & girl she thinks she's managed to do something i havent.

[ELP]

I know someone who's absolutely rejoicing that i'm having a girl because she's always been jealous of me & now that she has a boy & girl she thinks she's managed to do something i havent.Well if thats all she's got on you then I wouldn't sign herself up for the Nobel prize just yet:) Can she also tie her own shoes I wonder?? ;)

[babydes56]

Well if thats all she's got on you then I wouldn't sign herself up for the Nobel prize just yet:) Can she also tie her own shoes I wonder?? ;)

Too funny! So when do you find out? FX it's a boy, we need more happy news on here

[ELP]

Too funny! So when do you find out? FX it's a boy, we need more happy news on here
Glad it made you smile:) I have a scan on the 25th but I've never asked before. I think I should ask so then at least the info can be used by others swaying atm. If its a boy I'll be pleased but also a little sad that I can't swap with one of you ladies, I have some blues and would happily swap a blue ticket for a pink one with one of you guys xx One of us needs to win the lotto and start the GD high tech scholarship:agree:

[Cheekymoo]

Awww Jen/Skrimpy those girls are gorgeous!! Thank you all for the lovely words of encouragement. Been feeling bad for a couple of days because i've lost interest in the baby...i heard myself speaking to the baby saying "just bear with mommy for a bit while i mourn the son i'll never have". Feel awful for feeling like this but i know it will pass in time. Hope baby understands

I am totally sure your baby will understand :) Don't feel guilty- now is THE best time to grieve and work through your feelings of loss for your son , so that you are in the best place you can be when you welcome your baby girl it is better to take the time now IMO
I think it is a totally normal grieving process you are going through....I have a strong feeling I may be feeling very similar very soon and i plan to give myself the same leave pass :) Afterall our emotional health will impact on our new babies when they arrive-- so really when you get right down to it your doing all this for her!

[3Pink1Blue]

ELP- oh I'd love to see my dd's duplicate lol and please oh please find out :bigsmile:

Baby- thanks! It took me a while when I found out dc3 was yet another girl. I looked up stories of u/s being wrong and even paid for a second one to be sure. I will admit even though I knew I refused to believe till she was born. Within a few hours I was in love but still got a little sad every time I walked past a baby with the "It's a Boy" sign in their bassinet. 4 yrs later she's my little buddy, we're closer then I was with the others she doesn't know or remember I didn't want her to be a her. Don't feel guilty for being upset no matter how long it takes to shake it.
My bil laughed in dh's face when he found out dc3 was a girl while they were having a boy. I hate people who need to feel superior.

How bout you Cheeky, finding out soon?

[Foxy]

My bil laughed in dh's face when he found out dc3 was a girl while they were having a boy. I hate people who need to feel superior.

Ugh. I guess he isn't laughing now though! :D My BIL laughed when we had DD#4 and they had their 2nd boy. They already had BGGG. We were due the same month and I knew she would have a boy from the mean comments BIL kept making even though they kept the gender a secret until birth.

[Foxy]

ELP - I'm sure you are going to hear boy :) Great sway btw!

[3Pink1Blue]

Foxy - He actually hasn't talked to dh since he found out, all he did was "yell" at him via facebook that we said we weren't going to find out. No congrats, nothing. What can I say, he's an ass but it sounds like you know just what I'm talking about lol

[Cheekymoo]

ELP- oh I'd love to see my dd's duplicate lol and please oh please find out :bigsmile:

Baby- thanks! It took me a while when I found out dc3 was yet another girl. I looked up stories of u/s being wrong and even paid for a second one to be sure. I will admit even though I knew I refused to believe till she was born. Within a few hours I was in love but still got a little sad every time I walked past a baby with the "It's a Boy" sign in their bassinet. 4 yrs later she's my little buddy, we're closer then I was with the others she doesn't know or remember I didn't want her to be a her. Don't feel guilty for being upset no matter how long it takes to shake it.
My bil laughed in dh's face when he found out dc3 was a girl while they were having a boy. I hate people who need to feel superior.

How bout you Cheeky, finding out soon?

Well theres a chance to find out on Monday...possibly but I don't think it will be a def 100 % either way if anything is seen...and the doctor will give me a referral for my 20 week scan which i will come home and book straight away!
But I must say I REALLY believe I am having a girl...I try to imagine it being a boy now and I just can't because something keeps going 'yer it COULD be - but deep down i don't believe it for a second it just isn't..... '
Don't get me wrong i would love to be totally wrong about this but I have had such vivid dreams etc and it is always a she and it just feels sooo definate!

[3Pink1Blue]

I was positive I'd hear girl, I hoped but could not ever imagine after 9 years I'd actually hear boy. I firmly believe you dream what you want or fear most so dreams and gut instincts cannot always be trusted. My fingers are firmly crossed that you'll hear boy :)

[begonia]

Just remember those trashy little 'females' are only the tip of the iceburg, the rest of the girls are at home with us, safe and cared about xxx

Excellent point :)

[begonia]

Spicy I agree, I wasn't a bad teen either. I had no one really looking out for me but by nature was a good kid, I really wanted to be successful and just tried to make decisions based on that goal. Some of it is nature, some is nurture, I'm hoping my girls have a good nature :)

Foxy, how do your teens feel about you having more babies? I've always wondered that about big families! FIL was one of 10 and I always liked the idea (we won't get anywhere near there, I reeeeally think 3 is my max) because he and his siblings took such good care of each other. His thought was that in big families the sibling relationships are stronger, because they learned to rely on each other more since there were only 2 parents, but 9 other kids!

[begonia]

Awww Jen/Skrimpy those girls are gorgeous!! Thank you all for the lovely words of encouragement. Been feeling bad for a couple of days because i've lost interest in the baby...i heard myself speaking to the baby saying "just bear with mommy for a bit while i mourn the son i'll never have". Feel awful for feeling like this but i know it will pass in time. Hope baby understands

I went through this too Baby, the losing interest. Everytime during the day that I tell my DD's I love them (which is often, I probably overdo it and they'll be super embarrassed that I continue it even when they are teens, LOL) I make a point to pat my belly and say it to DD3 too. Even though I can't say I really am 100% there on it, I know I WILL be, you know? Fake it til you feel it sometimes isn't a bad motto.

And ITA on seeing the men everywhere! For me it's the boy babies, good heavens, they are EVERY WHERE I GO lately! I keep reminding myself the women longing for girls probably feel the same but in reverse. But seriously... if it's supposed to be so much easier to get pg with a boy why, why, why in 3 times haven't I done it once?!?!

[begonia]

ELP- oh I'd love to see my dd's duplicate lol and please oh please find out :bigsmile:

Baby- thanks! It took me a while when I found out dc3 was yet another girl. I looked up stories of u/s being wrong and even paid for a second one to be sure. I will admit even though I knew I refused to believe till she was born. Within a few hours I was in love but still got a little sad every time I walked past a baby with the "It's a Boy" sign in their bassinet. 4 yrs later she's my little buddy, we're closer then I was with the others she doesn't know or remember I didn't want her to be a her. Don't feel guilty for being upset no matter how long it takes to shake it.
My bil laughed in dh's face when he found out dc3 was a girl while they were having a boy. I hate people who need to feel superior.

How bout you Cheeky, finding out soon?

This was me with DD2 Jen. I didn't believe it. My scan with her was at 16w4d and I did the exact same thing as you ... googled to read stories of women who had incorrect scans, and then of course still hoped against hope she would come out a he :sad: I HATE gender desire. It sucks.

[begonia]

Well theres a chance to find out on Monday...possibly but I don't think it will be a def 100 % either way if anything is seen...and the doctor will give me a referral for my 20 week scan which i will come home and book straight away!
But I must say I REALLY believe I am having a girl...I try to imagine it being a boy now and I just can't because something keeps going 'yer it COULD be - but deep down i don't believe it for a second it just isn't..... '
Don't get me wrong i would love to be totally wrong about this but I have had such vivid dreams etc and it is always a she and it just feels sooo definate!

I agree with Jen on the dreams, Cheeky. I never had gender dreams with either of my others but this one, before I found out, I dreamed 2x that it was a boy. But in my gut I just couldn't ever let myself believe it, as much as I hoped. I clung to things like the urine pH being high just HOPING that for once an OWT would be true for me. Not the case, obviously.

So anyhow ... don't worry about the dreams. Really the only thing that'll tell you for sure is your scan, and you've got a great shot at this being your son. Don't lose hope. Is 3 it for y'all or would you go for 4?

[babydes56]

Cheekymoo, have faith this could be your boy. I too dreamt i had a boy but obviously didnt turn out that way. I find the odds of having a boy after 3 girls is higher than after 2 girls.

3P1B, your BIL is an ass i cant believe a man can carry on like that towards his own brother! I'm glad you've proved them wrong, something i wanted to do to a few people i know.

B, do you think you'll try again?

[3Pink1Blue]

This was me with DD2 Jen. I didn't believe it. My scan with her was at 16w4d and I did the exact same thing as you ... googled to read stories of women who had incorrect scans, and then of course still hoped against hope she would come out a he :sad: I HATE gender desire. It sucks.

My u/s was at 21/22 wks and I still didn't want to believe it. I hate gd and feeling guilty that you can't just be happy with what you have. My worst fear is that my girls will learn about my gd and think, even for a second, that I didn't love or want them or that I love or wanted this one more.

[3Pink1Blue]

Baby- oh you have no idea. Dh doesn't really fit in with his family and they've always looked down on him for it. He was teased as a child because he liked to read, mocked as an adult for being white collar, and down right abused for not producing an heir. I won't lie, I love that this shut him up for a second and took some of the attention away from his son. Bil and sil insist on them or their kids being the center of attention and literally squirm when someone else gets any. It really is no mystery why we avoid them.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi All,

Hope its okay to post here? Your girls are beautiful Jen.

Skrimpy, Very cute :awe:

[My Fabulous Children]

Babydes, Congrats on your daughter! I'm so sorry you didn't hear boy. Can you try HT? I know a lots of women ttc at age 40.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Well,
I had my dating scan (13 weeks) and although they moved my dates up, I am sticking (in my mind) with my original date since I charted, used opks, etc. Anyway, a pretty girly nub. She didn't stick around on it too long, but I saw a glimpse of it. Not majorly flat, but also, not obviously boy. DH agrees.

I am only slightly disappointed, since I want a sister for my dd, but more afraid that I will never had a boy. We worked very hard on swaying- and looking at the stats on this board, we aren't doing well in the blue confirmations! But, glad he/she is healthy and still deciding to get the confirmation for 19 week scan.

[3Pink1Blue]

awe Spicy don't get too upset over a nub especially one you didn't get a super good look at. Don't count on anything till you know for sure :)

[babydes56]

Babydes, Congrats on your daughter! I'm so sorry you didn't hear boy. Can you try HT? I know a lots of women ttc at age 40.

Thanks, cant afford HT & i dont want to be an old mom so this will be my last baby. Am feeling better about it everyday

[babydes56]

Spicy, i agree with 3P1B so dont worry about it. Wait for your 20wk before you start stressing

3P1B, i gree with you totally about avoiding such people in your life it's just a shame that they family. I can understand women being bitchy towards each other but for your BIL to carry on like that is just crazy. I bet it's going to eat them up more when Charlie arrives lool, good on you!

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks, cant afford HT & i dont want to be an old mom so this will be my last baby. Am feeling better about it everyday

I'm so glad you are doing better hun xxx

Spicy, ITA with Jen and baby!! Wait for your 20wk first ..Hope you hear boy in few weeks. Good luck.

[begonia]

Cheekymoo, have faith this could be your boy. I too dreamt i had a boy but obviously didnt turn out that way. I find the odds of having a boy after 3 girls is higher than after 2 girls.

3P1B, your BIL is an ass i cant believe a man can carry on like that towards his own brother! I'm glad you've proved them wrong, something i wanted to do to a few people i know.

B, do you think you'll try again?

I don't know ... I think no is the most likely answer; I honestly think I'm just going to have to learn to live with it. 4 kids is out of my comfort zone for sure. If DH would be up for HT I think I could be convinced to do that, but he isn't, and I really don't think I could handle having a 4th pregnancy without knowing I'd hear blue at the end. I think swaying increases our odds of having a boy, but I also think I swayed as hard as I could and I don't know that I can do that again knowing that it didn't work for me once already. If we have a 4th I think it'll be through international adoption.

[begonia]

My u/s was at 21/22 wks and I still didn't want to believe it. I hate gd and feeling guilty that you can't just be happy with what you have. My worst fear is that my girls will learn about my gd and think, even for a second, that I didn't love or want them or that I love or wanted this one more.

Oh me too!!! I keep journals for my kids, with DD1 I started it right after we found out she was a girl, and with DD2 I couldn't start it until the week before her birth because I was so worried I'd write something in there inadvertently revealing how sad I was about her being a girl. This one I'm terrified again to start so will probably be an after-birth endeavor.

And I worry about if we did adopt a son ... would my girls feel like we "chose" him because they were somehow not what we wanted? It's so hard. Because in truth I wouldn't even consider 4 if one of our 3 had been a DS. 3 was always the plan; it wasn't just this one that I wished for a son, it was all of them, so having #3 wasn't just for gender. 4 would only be because of my inability to get past not having a son, and I'm not really comfortable with that being the reason. I'd rather get to a place where I genuinely WANT a 4th CHILD, kwim?

[begonia]

Baby- oh you have no idea. Dh doesn't really fit in with his family and they've always looked down on him for it. He was teased as a child because he liked to read, mocked as an adult for being white collar, and down right abused for not producing an heir. I won't lie, I love that this shut him up for a second and took some of the attention away from his son. Bil and sil insist on them or their kids being the center of attention and literally squirm when someone else gets any. It really is no mystery why we avoid them.

Really, that's just so sad that he was treated that way by his own family :( How lovely that he now has such a wonderful wife and kids!

[begonia]

Spicy I said it on another thread but you know I'm with the others in saying wait and see! That said, you know what you saw, and I can understand if you're feeling like you really saw it. But still ... nubs can definitely be misleading, and FX yours ends up blue. I'm really glad you're handling the potential girl result well though!

I'm with you, I too feel like I had a great sway which is where it is so hard in some ways to accept; for crying out loud I ate and worked out like a "boy mom" for 9 solid months! Sheesh. If that can't change my body to be boy friendly I really don't know what else I could do. Our sway results definitely aren't breaking any records lately, so here's hoping the next round of ladies finding out bring some good blue news to the board!

[begonia]

Thanks, cant afford HT & i dont want to be an old mom so this will be my last baby. Am feeling better about it everyday

Baby that's awesome that you're feeling better every day! I am trying so hard to get there! I keep getting hung up on the "but I tried SO hard" and having a hard time believing that this is REALLY it.

I will say I had lunch with a friend today and her darling 10 month old baby boy, and I wasn't eaten up with jealousy. I mean, all babies are cute. My 3rd baby girl will be a total doll, I know it ... when she grins at me for the first time?!?! I can't wait. It's more the long-term relationship of mother/son that I feel like I'm going to always be missing. But not all mothers/sons get along so I need to let go of this romantic, made-up vision of me and my son; it's not real, and it's not like I had it and lost it. I might as well be holding on to a vision of having won the lottery and complaining about that not being true :)

Baby will you have any more scans? I can definitely say I think I'll feel better seeing my girl again later this month. It helps make her more real and reminds me again how lucky I am to have a healthy little one squirming around in there!

[begonia]

And welcome to this thread Foxy and MFC! I hope I didn't miss anyone else. I admit to being pretty self-absorbed as of late :oops:

Jen I bet when I see the pic (because I'm hoping you'll post one...) of your 3 DD's and their little brother I'll be itching to have a 4th. Your kids are darling and what a fun family make-up to have. My bestie growing up was the 3rd girl in a GGGB family, and she and her little brother are actually closer than she and either of her sisters. How is DD1 dealing with it being a boy? Has she come around and gotten excited?

[Foxy]

Spicy - With my last baby I was sure I saw a flat nub during my 12 week scan and nothing between the legs. I even called DH and told him that we were having another girl. Two weeks later a penis popped up on the screen, lol. Wait for the big scan, hun.

[Foxy]

Begonia - Thanks for the welcome and I don't think you are self-absorbed at all. I'm glad to see you posting! :) Baby girls are so much fun and all the feelings you have right now will go away when you see that little sweet face for the first time. :heart: You should get a 4D scan if you can. It helped me bond with DD#4.

[babydes56]

Baby that's awesome that you're feeling better every day! I am trying so hard to get there! I keep getting hung up on the "but I tried SO hard" and having a hard time believing that this is REALLY it.

I will say I had lunch with a friend today and her darling 10 month old baby boy, and I wasn't eaten up with jealousy. I mean, all babies are cute. My 3rd baby girl will be a total doll, I know it ... when she grins at me for the first time?!?! I can't wait. It's more the long-term relationship of mother/son that I feel like I'm going to always be missing. But not all mothers/sons get along so I need to let go of this romantic, made-up vision of me and my son; it's not real, and it's not like I had it and lost it. I might as well be holding on to a vision of having won the lottery and complaining about that not being true :)

Baby will you have any more scans? I can definitely say I think I'll feel better seeing my girl again later this month. It helps make her more real and reminds me again how lucky I am to have a healthy little one squirming around in there!

I'm so alike with you in that from DD1 i wanted a boy, DD2 i wanted a boy & now i'm having a third daughter, sometimes life isnt fair! I felt sick the other day when DH asked if SHE was moving because until now i refuse that i'm carrying a she, how sad is that? I noticed that when i refer to the her i dont say SHE i say the baby. I think i'm getting better with it but it still hurts so bad knowing i'll never have a mother/son relationship which i thought i'd have. I know that if i had lots of cash i'd consider HT in a heartbeat even though i said i'm getting too old for another but there's no way i'd try for another naturally because it would absolutely rip my heart apart if it failed again so i wouldnt take that chance.

Would you do it if DH agreed? It costs a lot doesnt it? No i dont get any more scans now, i'd have to pay if i wanted another

[babydes56]

Begonia - Thanks for the welcome and I don't think you are self-absorbed at all. I'm glad to see you posting! :) Baby girls are so much fun and all the feelings you have right now will go away when you see that little sweet face for the first time. :heart: You should get a 4D scan if you can. It helped me bond with DD#4.

Welcome Foxy, here's to hoping you hear blue. You right about how we'll feel better when we see that little sweet face for the first but i still dont know if the longing for a son will

[3Pink1Blue]

Oh me too!!! I keep journals for my kids, with DD1 I started it right after we found out she was a girl, and with DD2 I couldn't start it until the week before her birth because I was so worried I'd write something in there inadvertently revealing how sad I was about her being a girl. This one I'm terrified again to start so will probably be an after-birth endeavor.

And I worry about if we did adopt a son ... would my girls feel like we "chose" him because they were somehow not what we wanted? It's so hard. Because in truth I wouldn't even consider 4 if one of our 3 had been a DS. 3 was always the plan; it wasn't just this one that I wished for a son, it was all of them, so having #3 wasn't just for gender. 4 would only be because of my inability to get past not having a son, and I'm not really comfortable with that being the reason. I'd rather get to a place where I genuinely WANT a 4th CHILD, kwim?

B- We too had always said three, from before we were married we said three but it never occured to us we'd have three of the same. I can't be sure but I don't think we would have gone for four it one of them had been a boy. I never wanted four till dd3 was born then the older she got the bigger the hole in our family felt. Dh refused to try again till he felt I wanted a baby and not just a boy. It took 3 years before we both knew I would be ok with 4 girls. To an extent you can't decide with your brain or your wallet that you're done.
I hear ya on adopting a boy and not wanting anyone to feel he was hand picked to cover up your failures. This whole wanting a different gender thing is so complicated.

[3Pink1Blue]

Really, that's just so sad that he was treated that way by his own family :( How lovely that he now has such a wonderful wife and kids!

Awe thanks :kiss: He's got a real thick skin about it because it's been that way his whole life. I get upset that they all pretend to be so close and love each other so much and then think it's just fine to treat him/us like that.

Here's another example of bil's behavior. Dh got a text at 2pm yesterday informing us of my sil b-day dinner TONIGHT @ 6. Yep 28 hrs notice, a few years ago we got 3 hrs notice. Lovely huh.

[3Pink1Blue]

B- it's not about the romantic notion of a mother son relationship, it's about the relationship you were going to create. Neither dh or I have the kind of relationships we want with our parents, we are determined to have them with our kids. That what hurts to let go of.

Oh you know I'll be posting pics of my 4 as soon as possible. They all want to be at the birth and I'll have my iPhone in the hospital so pics will be everywhere 5 minutes after he's clean lol
DD1 has completely come around, every morning she kisses my belly and tells the baby she loves him. They all picked out and tied him a fleece blanket and she's told all her friends about him. I knew she'd get here, but for a child that doesn't always accept change well it happened faster then we'd thought.
I so understand the unfair feeling, i swear everything you say is exactly what I felt w/dd3. Believe me hun it gets so much better and just wait till your girls know it's another sister, they will help you be excited :)

[Tink18]

Hi all! Joining this group! Just got my bfp on monday! I am beyond pumped!

[3Pink1Blue]

Welcome and congrats again! Now go get a ticker :wink:

[Tink18]

sir yes sir.

[3Pink1Blue]

We are big time stalkers here lol We gotta know how far along you are and when that u/s is lol

[Cheekymoo]

:wave:Welcome tink- I had a feeling you would get your BFP quite quick :) Congats hope it is a sticky one! look forward to chatting to you- are you planning on finding out gender or waiting?

3pink- glad your DD came around to the idea of a little brother so quick- she probably saw how happy you were and couldn't help but be excited too :)

Foxy- great idea regarding the 4d scan- hadn't thought of that might do it to help me bond too :)

Babydes- hugs honey- I feel for you ATM all the mixed emotions xoxo

[Tink18]

I go to the doctor on the 28th at 10:30 AM. I am really excited to go. I had my numbers tested 13 dpo was 177. Going again tomorrow hoping the numbers are good.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Spicy - With my last baby I was sure I saw a flat nub during my 12 week scan and nothing between the legs. I even called DH and told him that we were having another girl. Two weeks later a penis popped up on the screen, lol. Wait for the big scan, hun.

Thanks- but I was 13+1, so probably still out! Were you closer to 12 or 13 at that point? You are right though- nothing until the big scan. I am not longing for a son for myself, I like girls, but for my hubby. He was 1 out of many sons and they are all great brothers. All athletic, smart, great men. So I want to imitate that, but I also fear that any son I have won't live up to that expectation either.

Again, I am here to remind everyone to not let comparison rob you of your joy of your newest dd! Regardless of what other people have, it won't change your situation and I think it is better to focus on the sweet gift you have!

[ELP]

Hiya ladies, just checking in! I am feeling fat!!! My stomach is literally hanging, its embarassing!!!!!! DH keeps looking at me sideways and cautiously saying 'My baby is showing now, isn't it?' To which I answer 'No, the babies still tiny, I'm just a big Munta!!!' :rofl: never mind eh!!! My scan is on the 25th of this month, and between us here, I think I will find out who's in there! I've never asked before, but for swaying purposes theres no point me giving advice to people if I don't know what I'm having is there! SO we will see, I may chicken out at the last minute though, flamin coward lol:bigsmile:

[3Pink1Blue]

Spicy- great advice!

ELP- at 17 weeks with #9 I'm sure there is quite a bit of baby belly there. I felt the same way about the sway advice, I kept my mouth shut till I knew I had something to offer. I too wanted to be able to say what I did that did/didn't work. You gotta find out we're dying here lol

[Tink18]

numbers were really good. almost triples 494. makes me feel really good!

[begonia]

Spicy- great advice!

ELP- at 17 weeks with #9 I'm sure there is quite a bit of baby belly there. I felt the same way about the sway advice, I kept my mouth shut till I knew I had something to offer. I too wanted to be able to say what I did that did/didn't work. You gotta find out we're dying here lol

I'm not offended at all, because I completely understand that perspective ... but at the same time .... what about mine DIDN'T work, KWIM? It SUCKS to have gone all out on a sway and it not work. TBH that's part of the reason I wonder why I even still come here. On the one hand I need the support and encouragement that having 3 daughters doesn't make me a failure, but on the other hand, I feel like a failure who has nothing to offer except how sad I am. And the fact is I AM A FAILURE. Because I did sway. Really freaking hard. And I still have a daughter to show for it. My sway FAILED.

I really do hope everyone else's sways work because I would never, ever wish the way I feel right now on anyone else. I am trying SO hard to get excited about DD3, and I can't. I tried to buy something for her this weekend and started crying in the newborn section because I so badly wanted to be buying blue. I see baby boys EVERYWHERE and am constantly remembering how many more boys than girls are conceived and am wondering why in the heck, as hard as tried, I couldn't be one of them. Rationally I know having a son wouldn't make my life any BETTER, only different, but for some reason that different seems like it would in fact be better.

I'm so tired of being me right now! I'm so sorry everything I post these days is negative; I'm so not this type of person and I can't find a way to get myself out of it. I really wanted three kids, I really thought I'd be OK with a 3rd DD, but I think I somehow had convinced myself we'd have DS. And that's why I regret ever even learning about swaying. Obviously once I knew about it I had to try it, but I wish I was just blissfully unaware still and felt like "you get what you get" ... now I feel like if you somehow have a magic combination, you get what you WANT, and I couldn't figure out that magic combination :sad:

Sorry for being such a downer. It's just so hard that after nearly a year of preparing for my sway and believing I would succeed, I failed. I should be happy that "failing" still means a lovely baby girl, but I can't get there yet. I hope I do, because I really fear I won't be able to be a good mother to her. Jen I know your GD was bad with DD3, when she arrived did it feel better instantly? Take time? Were you able to bond? I'm terrified I'm going to want nothing to do with her :worry:

I never thought I'd react this way. I'm going to talk to my OB at my next appointment about what I can do now to help prevent PPD because I'm terrified of where I might be headed.

[begonia]

Again, I am here to remind everyone to not let comparison rob you of your joy of your newest dd! Regardless of what other people have, it won't change your situation and I think it is better to focus on the sweet gift you have!
:hug2:

Thanks Spicy. I needed that. I need to keep reading it over and over again until I can get there. I have good days and bad days (well, good moments and bad moments, all in the same day usually) and right now I'm definitely having a bad moment, but reading that is REALLY helpful. So please do keep coming and posting positive things! I for one really, really appreciate it! I think it'd be a little easier if I felt like I had another chance or two. But this is it for us, and that's what keeps bringing me back down whenever I do manage to pick myself up.

Tink, congrats on your BFP and your good numbers! FX all continues to go well!

I'm sitting here crying and DD2 just came and wrapped her arms around me and said "Mama! I make you SO HAPPY!" LOL.

I can't decide if we should "find out" at the scan because I don't want to have to tell people it's DD3. It's a fact that no one is going to be nearly as excited for us as they would be if it was DS1. And I'm in a fragile state these days and not sure I can handle a single comment about "sorry it wasn't a boy" or what have you. On the other hand I hate all the comments now about "hope you got your boy in there" ... I just smile and say "oh, with 2 already it's probably DD3!" but inside I'm crushed.

[WashingtonPromise]

I have a quick question....

Once you guys conceived, did you slow down the eating? Eat differently?

Just curious to see what others are doing.

[fourblessings]

Begonia, I just wanted to offer my support and to genuinely tell you that as soon as your little lass is born you are going to be a blissfully happy Mama. I have always wanted a son and I have 3 daughters and I can honestly say it is wonderful. We are so blessed being the 'maternal' side of future family (which will include grandsons!). Just hang in there and know that when her day of entering the world arrives, you will feel complete and that it is 'right'. Biggest hugs X

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I take it all back to what AS said. Imagine one of those 17 sided D&D dice, the goal is to turn as many sides blue as possible for your roll, some get lucky some don't. YOU didn't fail, that's just where the dice landed and quite honestly you gave it an amazing effort. Your hope had merit much more so then if you hadn't swayed at all. You're negativity is totally understood, we are your only outlet. I know you'll get past this much quicker when it's you and dh dealing together. Once you start talking names and have excited little girls you'll feel better. Screw other people and what they may say, find out officially and take this burden off yourself.


As far as ppd you can't really prevent it because its not actually based on your feelings, I was in bliss when dd2 was born and that's when it hit me the worst. Eat healthy, exercise if you can and take your prenatal is all you can do unless she wants to give you an antidepressant. I had it sever after dd2 and got it again after dd3 even though I was on meds, not gd related just my luck. I'll be scarfing antidepressants as soon as they cut The cord with this one as I have a 90% chance of it hitting again. Ppd is the thing I'd never wish on anyone.

I was completely over it and in love with dd3 till my nephew was born 3wks later and everyone began to ignore her. I had almost no gd when we weren't around them, I occasionally felt sad but it was fleeting. I always felt like if we could isolate us from them we would be in heaven with our girls and may not have gone for another. If I hadn't had gd I never would have found IG and learned about swaying. I never would have gone for 4 without swaying, I needed to know I gave it my best shot. You dear gave it your very best shot! I promise you it will get better and you will adore her!

Tink- woohoo!

Wp- my eating stayed the same till 6wks 1 day then the nausea and aversions kicked in. I ate a ton of the crap I could though, this has been one very hungry baby.

Fourblessings- well said :)

[Cheekymoo]

Just a quick one from me- It is looking more and more like i was right :( Doctor had a guess at my scan yesterday - cord was in the way a bit but he said he thinks it's a girl as he saw 3 lines thing! I was very good and waited till i got home to cry..I know it's still not 100% but really it's just confirming what my heart already knew.....Nov 3rd is my scan date when i will get it confirmed.

[skrimpy]

Big hugs begonia ((hugs)) Those dark feelings are so hard to deal with. Not a lot of time right now, but I thought I'd share this post I did about the supplements I'm taking postpartum. I was also really worried about PPD b/c my pregnancy was so very hard emotionally. I haven't had ANY PPD at all - can't completely say it's the supplements, b/c Honor's good birth and her herself help a lot! But I do think the supplements have made a difference:

http://blog.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/saturday-review-supplements/

[ELP]

Sorry your so sad B:( Your sway was excellent, she just sneaked on in there didn't she. Once she joins you all you will feel such love for her and 6 months down the line life would be unimaginable any differently, I just wish it would speed up to them points sometimes xxx

[ELP]

Big hugs begonia ((hugs)) Those dark feelings are so hard to deal with. Not a lot of time right now, but I thought I'd share this post I did about the supplements I'm taking postpartum. I was also really worried about PPD b/c my pregnancy was so very hard emotionally. I haven't had ANY PPD at all - can't completely say it's the supplements, b/c Honor's good birth and her herself help a lot! But I do think the supplements have made a difference:

http://blog.naturalbirthandbabycare.com/saturday-review-supplements/Skrimpy is that your own blog? Its fantastic, well done:agree:

[3Pink1Blue]

Not trying to argue ladies but I gotta throw this out. You don't get PPD because you are upset, it is triggered by the pregnancy and depending on the severity must be treated with counseling and medication. If untreated it can escalate to suicide or worse, think Andrea Yates. Mild cases can be helped with diet and exercise.
What you may end up with, if anything, is the baby blues. It sets in within a few days of delivery and usually goes away within the first few weeks to months after delivery.

I've unfortunately had experience with both, neither is fun and there's nothing you can do to guarantee you won't get one. Even though I have a +90% chance of getting ppd again all I can do is meds and counseling. Good news is neither will affect your longterm bond with your baby. I wished dd2 was never born, I told dh we should put her up for adoption. Today i adore her and she has so no idea I had any trouble or doubts.

B- the secret and devastation are eating you alive because you're bearing it in silence. Find out with dh and work it through together, if you need more talk to a counselor before her birth.

[begonia]

Cheekymoo, oh honey, I obviously am right there with you, and sincerely hope that Nov 3rd proves you (and your doc) wrong. If it is DD3, I also really, really hope you can bear it better than I have. HUGS. Big ones. How is DH handling it, was he there too?

Jen, I think that you're right and PPD is definitely NOT an emotional reaction one can just control. I do think there can be extreme GD after the birth, unrelated to an actual, clinical definition of PPD. I think they're separate things. I had baby blues with DD1. Oddly, with DD2, I had what my friends joking called PPD, where the D was for delight. I was BEYOND happy for months. It really was ridiculous, and had to have a hormonal component because it was just euphoric. Oh how I pray for that to happen again. For me, and for you ... I genuinely hope that you don't experience PPD again. I can't imagine how awful that had to feel and thank goodness DD2 has no idea.

Re: me bearing my secret in silence I've actually been talking about it nonstop IRL to my bestie, LOL. It's no stretch for her to go along with me having DD3 (she doesn't know I had a scan) because as I mentioned on another thread, 15 of 17 families we know got DD3 after DD1+2. So she's full on heard just about everything I've laid out here, and she's been amazing about it. She has 2 boys and had a REALLY hard time with DS2, and we talked about that then, so it's not an unfamiliar topic. We were at the playground today despising the pigeon pairs together :wink: So, thankfully, I do have someone to talk to about IRL and it helps beyond measure. Also, I know I will feel MUCH better when we move (end of month) bc living in the cramped quarters is hard on all of us. I'm definitely impacted by my environment and I will breathe much easier in the new digs.

Skrimpy, thank you for the link! I remember you mentioning some of the things you were taking once on one of our threads. I'm bookmarking it for sure.

ELP, I agree ... if I could just fast forward about a year I think I'll be happy with my 3 ladies. I really, genuinely do. Which almost makes all of this harder, KWIM? I desperately want to enjoy this pregnancy and yet it's a daily fight. Today I'm having a pretty good day though.

Fourblessings THANK YOU for popping on and sharing that. I really can't say enough how much it helps to hear from others who have been through it and come out shining on the other side. I really, really appreciate you sharing.

I'm hoping that the scan 10/24 will help me bond with her more. Seeing her move, etc. I might schedule a 3d/4d scan for 30 weeks just to have another bit of time, me and her.

I am back to thinking I won't "find out" though 10/24 because I don't feel ready to tell other people. DH says it is up to me. Part of me really wants him to have his birth surprise that he's always wanted. I feel so selfish taking that away from him again, and since he thinks it's a girl anyway I don't think he'll be devastated or anything when she pops out. I think he'll absolutely cherish her birth all the more because he got the experience he's always wanted, and I really want him to have that gift, in some ways I think it will help me feel better about all of this to give that to him, at least, since I am not giving him a son. I was worried about DD1 hoping for a bro since she's such a tomboy, but she adores DD2 and has just settled that we're having DD3 in her mind ... I think in a weird way she just assumes we make girls, KWIM? Her kindy teacher has 3 girls, and most of our friends do have single-gender families, so in her 5 year old brain you either have a girl family or a boy family, LOL. And we have a girl one :suprise:

[SpicyTunaSushi]

:hug2:

Thanks Spicy. I needed that. I need to keep reading it over and over again until I can get there. I have good days and bad days (well, good moments and bad moments, all in the same day usually) and right now I'm definitely having a bad moment, but reading that is REALLY helpful. So please do keep coming and posting positive things! I for one really, really appreciate it! I think it'd be a little easier if I felt like I had another chance or two. But this is it for us, and that's what keeps bringing me back down whenever I do manage to pick myself up.

Tink, congrats on your BFP and your good numbers! FX all continues to go well!

I'm sitting here crying and DD2 just came and wrapped her arms around me and said "Mama! I make you SO HAPPY!" LOL.

I can't decide if we should "find out" at the scan because I don't want to have to tell people it's DD3. It's a fact that no one is going to be nearly as excited for us as they would be if it was DS1. And I'm in a fragile state these days and not sure I can handle a single comment about "sorry it wasn't a boy" or what have you. On the other hand I hate all the comments now about "hope you got your boy in there" ... I just smile and say "oh, with 2 already it's probably DD3!" but inside I'm crushed.

Oh hunny! I have to repeat that mantra to myself everyday! I prayed for you last night too. I hope that you aren't offended by that. I am really sorry for the place that you are in- I would be there too for dd3. I do fear trying again because I swayed super duper hard too- ridiculous amounts of bacon, fat, salt, potatoes, tomato juice, etc. It was disgusting. I would be very careful to let anyone know about your GD IRL. I feel like if I did, they would constantly feel bad for me. I think that about others who express their preference, I always think about the comment they made about having ds2 (usually the case with boys, weird right?)... I don't want anyone to have pity on me for having only daughters, I want them to be convinced that having daughters is awesome!

If I felt like they pitied me, I might pity myself. I am daily fighting to convince myself that that ds I may never have is a mere mirage. He doesn't exist, was not part of God's plan for me, and therefore, how can I mourn a son (who in my mind will be successful, athletic, & smart like his daddy) who isn't there? It is like some sort of matrix other world.

You will be happy. We will all be happy. We are all amazing women who want ds's and it looks like we are all getting girls this round (except 3P1B- congrats, and you have experienced what we have too!). We aren't failures. We didn't 'fail' at getting our sons, we have given life to a dd. period. Swaying is at best 60%- the odds weren't really that great anyway.

Its hard, but at some point, we will all have to move on and stop comparing ourselves to pp or mixed gender families. If I were you, I wouldn't find out at the scan. People are less likely to say something at birth than now. And it is for the same reason we have a harder time adjusting to the news during pg and at birth. The real life baby, this special human being, isn't sitting in front of us. So, I would just keep it a secret until birth.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

B- the secret and devastation are eating you alive because you're bearing it in silence. Find out with dh and work it through together, if you need more talk to a counselor before her birth.

I think I might agree with this too. I just couldn't imagine going through this anguish without dh. He sounds really supportive. I know your bf is helpful, but she isn't there when you are crying in the middle of the night.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I have a quick question....

Once you guys conceived, did you slow down the eating? Eat differently?

Just curious to see what others are doing.

I tried to follow a more TW approach, but then nausea hit at 6 weeks and I could barely eat. I did tell myself if I miscarried, I would sit out 2 cycles to get back on the diet, but thankfully, I am at 13+ weeks now, so all should be OK.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Just a quick one from me- It is looking more and more like i was right :( Doctor had a guess at my scan yesterday - cord was in the way a bit but he said he thinks it's a girl as he saw 3 lines thing! I was very good and waited till i got home to cry..I know it's still not 100% but really it's just confirming what my heart already knew.....Nov 3rd is my scan date when i will get it confirmed.

Sorry Cheeky! I was really hoping that your ambiguous nub picture would surprise us! Mine was way more girly than yours, so not holding out hope (I don't have a still pic, just saw it from the live scan).

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I don't doubt you may suffer from some gd but I honestly think you'll get over it fast. It's so hard to not love that little face. I honestly think some real counseling could help you a lot. You're dealing with a genuine loss here and getting some professional advice could really help your post birth experience. Ita with spicy, a BFF is no dh :)

Awe Cheeky, congrats on another little lady :)

[begonia]

Spicy I totally welcome the prayers. It's one of the reasons I have shared as much as I have with my BFF. I know she's covering me in it, and I genuinely can say this afternoon and evening have been some really, really, REALLY good times for me. It's funny I was just posting on the other thread in the swayed for boy section almost exactly what you said ... the son of my imagination wasn't ever REAL. And if I keep living on wishes I'm going to miss all the awesome that is RIGHT HERE in my very REAL life.

Jen I do think I'll be good when she arrives, but I do have a therapist I can call in the event I need it. And I may do that if I don't have more consistently good days in this pregnancy. She helped me a ton with my "mom issues" which are no doubt linked to some of my "daughter" issues so I know she would be a good resource.

Re: the DH I actually haven't been going through it without him. The night after I had the us I woke up bawling my eyes out at 5 am. He's heard pretty much everything you guys have here, with the only exception being he doesn't know for sure it's a girl. But he believes it so much in his heart that he's been completely supportive in having talks with me as though it is a girl. I can honestly say not once has he said something like "why are you so upset? it could still be a boy!" He just knows it too. So weirdly, although he doesn't "know" ... he knows, and he's been there for me. He sees me in my bad moments these past few weeks and knows exactly why I'm in them.

I will say a huge part of this - and something he brought up - is my kids are my world. He has a full-time, very demanding job. He doesn't have the luxury of devoting so much of his time to worrying about having a boy or a girl. He worries about providing for that boy or girl. He worries about keeping the people who work for him employed so they can care for their boys and girls. He just doesn't care too much if WE have a boy or a girl. He told me last night as long as he has at least one daughter who plays golf with him for the rest of his life, he's a happy man. Not that he wouldn't love a son, but as he so honestly put it, he just doesn't think that's what God planned for him, so he's not going to get upset about it.

And ... he doesn't have pregnancy hormones. Lucky bastard :)

WP ... I tried to eat well but couldn't at all. Lots of chips, lots of coca-cola. It wasn't healthy. I'm still not quite at a "healthy" diet for pregnancy to be honest but I'm trying to work some veggies in my daily intake.

[ELP]

I will say a huge part of this - and something he brought up - is my kids are my world. He has a full-time, very demanding job. He doesn't have the luxury of devoting so much of his time to worrying about having a boy or a girl. He worries about providing for that boy or girl. He worries about keeping the people who work for him employed so they can care for their boys and girls. He just doesn't care too much if WE have a boy or a girl. He told me last night as long as he has at least one daughter who plays golf with him for the rest of his life, he's a happy man. Not that he wouldn't love a son, but as he so honestly put it, he just doesn't think that's what God planned for him, so he's not going to get upset about it.

And ... he doesn't have pregnancy hormones. Lucky bastard :)

Oh B!!! This has filled me eyes! What a 'flamin good bloke!' as we'd put it in the UK lol! I strongly believe he truly means this aswell, thinking about others families instead of the usual only thinking of No1, double :agree::agree: to Mr B!

He's also got me thinking ahead 20 years when we're watching you all on the 'Masters' with the new 'Venus' sisters!!!!;) Aren't they a family of 5/6 girls???

[begonia]

LOL about the Venus sisters! DH is always saying there's more money in college golf/soccer/basketball scholarships for women anyhow, so it's best to breed female champions :bigsmile: And he couldn't be more thrilled that DD2 is a lefty like himself. I really do see so much of him in my girls; it's pretty fun. I was all wrapped up in not being able to pass on his last name but really, if that was the most important thing he had to pass on, it'd be pretty sad.

I woke up this morning still feeling great and that's the first time in 2 weeks that has happened, so FX I'm turning a corner. Not expecting it'll be all easy peasy for the next months ahead, but you know what? I saw a mom this am dropping her DD off at school, and she had a younger DD, and then a baby boy on her shoulder. And instead of thinking "that should have been me" I thought "that's her family. THIS is mine." And I was happy with it. It was raining out and DD2 was wearing her batman rainboots wearing her beloved snake print pajamas and splashing in all the puddles, and I thought to myself that yes, a boy would be different. It would. I can't deny there are differences in raising both genders. But it couldn't possibly be BETTER. What I have is precious and I wouldn't trade it. Girl is just a part of who this next person is; it isn't ALL she is. When I heard DD1 was a girl I never would have thought she'd be 5 and saying her favorite color is camo, LOL. So as for DD3, well I can't wait to see her personality :HH:

Anyhow thanks again to all of y'all for bearing with me through all of this. Like I said I'm sure I can't be over it yet but it's so nice to wake up happy that I'm going to take that as a good sign and hope I can stay focused on what matters :)

[WashingtonPromise]

Thanks for all the replies about your eating habits. I have had some nausea, so I am not eating as much as I was. Everything taste so blah...except the whole bowl of guacamole DH made last night with chips...mmmm. I didn't get really bad m/s with my DSs or DD3, so I am hoping I just stick with the nausea.

B:You have such such a wonderful Hubby!!! I am sure it would be much harder without a solid rock like him.

Spicy: Very well put!!! I have people comment all the time about how I need to even out and have some more boys, but if we have another healthy girl, I will be just as happy. My girls are wonderful people and I would love to have another. They are the ones that are close to their parents when they get older and help with food on all the holidays and you can enjoy mother daughter outings like shopping and tea. (trust me I have all brothers and I am waayyyyy closer to may parents). There are great things about boys too, but those are some good ones about the girls.

Cheeky: Congrats on the healthy baby, I hope you post some pics after your next scan.

[3Pink1Blue]

B- loving that you woke up feeling good. You couldn't be more right, what's in her diaper is not who she is. DD2's favorite toys as a baby were cars, she is absolutely fearless and if there's a tree around she will climb it. My oldest rode a mechanical bull the other day, in a skirt I might add. DD3 tackled a 7yr old while playing flag football the other day and didn't mess up her pigtails lol Girls rock and I wouldn't trade any of them for all the sons in the world. Keep focusing on your family and I promise you'll discover it's perfect :)

Wp- as my midwife always told me in the first trimester. Eat what you can not what you think you should, a belly full of twinkies is better then barfing up broccoli. Make the best choices you can but at the end of the day getting any calories is most important.

[begonia]

Mmmmm, guac. I love guac WP and that is something you should feel semi-good about giving that fetus :) Healthy fats and all. Chips not so much but hey, guac needs a vehicle, as does queso ... and nothing else works as well so what's a gal to do? FX no morning sickness hits you!

Jen LOL about the belly full of twinkies vs barfing up broccoli! YUCK! But twinkies sound kind of good now ...or those chocolate cupcakes with the swirly thing on top.

Spicy I was thinking about you today as my girls were playing so well together outside. 2 girls is a LOT of fun. Who knows what your next 2 babies will be (I think you've said 4 is the plan) but 2 DD is a really great start IMO.

Anyhow, today really continued to be a good day and I had a LOT of opportunity for it not to be, so I'm happy about that. My dentist today was all "try for a boy this time?" and I just said "Happy to have a third baby, whatever it might be." And I meant it. Then he said "Well, in my opinion, you should have a 4th either way." He has 4 and loves it. But I was kinda laughing inside thinking about if they only knew all the things I tried to have a boy :rofl: It's darn funny when you think about it.

But after THAT it got worse because I ran into a mom at preschool who had 2 girls, waited to find out til birth (unless she's a liar like me :cool:) and wound up with .. of course ... a son. That one was harder but not really bad. I told her congrats on the healthy baby and didn't make a big deal out of it being a boy ... I know if we did have a boy after our girls I wouldn't want people making a big deal out of it, as though the girls weren't somehow as awesome, KWIM? I was really surprised that interaction didn't hurt more. Maybe it will bite me later though, who knows. It was a stinkin' cute baby that's for darn sure.

I think I've come up with a name I love so that's a plus too! But I tend to waver so we'll see what we actually end up with :bigsmile:

[Tink18]

hi everyone! just checking in. not much report just being barely pregnant...but pregnant! wahoooo. feeling great so far..hope it continues! congrats on another girl too!

[3Pink1Blue]

Damn you B now I want a cupcake lol So happy for your good day :)

Tink- glad to hear all is well, for now anyway lol fx this ones's easy on you :)

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Really needing some support today! I know that you all have encouraged me to not be so dependent on my nub, but I know the theory well, and am confident what I saw- so I assume I am having DD2.

I don't necessarily care that I am having DD2, most of my GD comes from my dh's desire to have a ds. He isn't harsh about it at all, and loves his girls, but today I was encouraging him to let go of his 'imaginary son'. He had never thought about it, but this made sense to him. He longs for this 'imaginary son'- and realises, that yes, he is perfect. He is driven, smart, athletic, etc. I also got him to confess that he does 'covet' other boy families when he sees them in town.

It really robbed me of my joy again. I just want him to be happy- he asked if I would be disappointed if I had 'ds2' this time, and I don't think I would, bc I know that he would LOVE that. Ugh.

I also need some advice on the next sway. Should I go for IG style again or try TW. I will say, that both dh and I lost weight IG style- me only 2 pounds, him 15! TW would be wayyyy more manageable, but I don't know if IG failed because of bad luck or if it wasn't working for my body. Thoughts?

[ELP]

Well if you are definately happy to be trying again then that gives you plenty of time to be watching all sway outcomes and see if you see any patterns:agree: You will be able to see if the blue swayers who choose +clac/mag over ig's -calc/mag do any better or the same?! Or if theres any weight gain pattern, timing pattern, head spin pattern lol, you see what I mean though! Really you've got a possible gorgeous bonus pink baby, before your string of boys, best of both worlds! I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile:

[Foxy]

Spicy - I agree with ELP. If you go for #3 there will be a lot of stats on TW and IG attemps when that time comes. Maybe you wont even need it!


I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile: Go girl!!!

[ELP]

I WILL be needing company though Foxy, how many can I count you in for??:rofl:

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Well if you are definately happy to be trying again then that gives you plenty of time to be watching all sway outcomes and see if you see any patterns:agree: You will be able to see if the blue swayers who choose +clac/mag over ig's -calc/mag do any better or the same?! Or if theres any weight gain pattern, timing pattern, head spin pattern lol, you see what I mean though! Really you've got a possible gorgeous bonus pink baby, before your string of boys, best of both worlds! I'll be here obsessing over patterns with you as I suspect I've a few babes left in me for a while lol :bigsmile:

Definitely going for no 3 no matter what! Probably no 4. Always wanted at least 3-4- regardless of boy or girl. :)

[Foxy]

Are we going to make this a little competition C? :rofl:

[begonia]

Hugs Spicy! FWIW, DH and I were like you and your DH but roles reversed ... while he sure would have loved for 1 of our 3 to be a boy, it wasn't some kind of life-long dream. He never really thought about it much so he's just been happy to have our kids, who happen to be girls. I on the other hand had visions of boys, lots of them, and so I .. like your DH ... "coveted" those boy families, and REALLY had to let go of the imaginary son. He was SO real in my mind that I had pretty much convinced myself that it was going to happen for #3, regardless of whether I swayed, if that makes sense. I just saw me with a son so clearly I was sure it was "real" and destined. Clearly not the case at all. And it has taken me three solid weeks to get to a place where I am fully accepting of that and OK with it, so my suggestion is for you to just keep giving him time. He'll get there I bet. Especially when DD2 arrives and just "fits" in your family in a hole he didn't even know was there. I think you've mentioned he grew up with brothers? So perhaps once he sees that his DD1 gets to have that same-gender bond too he'll really see why DD2 arrived. AND ... how great is it that you'll get 2 more shots at this?!? Who knows, could be DS1 and DS2.

Re: letting him sink your ship a bit, do your best to stay in high spirits for him. Try to lift him up instead of letting him bring you down. I can't believe how incredibly great my DH was at doing just that; I'm not sure I could have been there for him the way he was for me. Instead of crying with me about this son we never had, he gently reminded me that what we have instead is 2 awesome (soon to be 3) DD's and he wouldn't change it for the world. If YOU appreciate it, he'll get there. It's a great situation to be in when both parents are NOT having GD because you really can help the other.

On the swaying, I think reading other sways CAN be helpful. But I kind of also think it's just so hard to know. I mean, reading your last sway it's not like you *missed* a letter off a secret code and that's what you need to fix, KWIM? Bear in mind there is a big fat luck component here. There are ladies who did far less (or nothing) and got boys, and ladies who did it *textbook* and got DD. So ... I would focus on reading the research behind TW/IG (reading them again, I'm sure you have read them already) and continue reading any new studies that come up, because all of those are going to have larger samples than just GD/IG can come up with. The reason I did most of what I did was not because of other people's sways, because honestly ... it isn't one size fits all unfortunately ... I made my plan based on the studies. The Oxford study in particular was fascinating to me and I believe the researcher is doing a follow up so hopefully that will be completed in time for you to gain something out of it.

Personally I'm not sure if I'd sway again. I think IF (and that's a big ol' IF) we decided to have #4 I'd take what God gives me with a smile on my face. I couldn't possibly change more than I changed this time. Really, everything about my lifestyle and diet (and DH's too) and even our sex life was different than when we had DD1/DD2, and it still got us DD3. I do think swaying "works" in that it bumps your odds, I'm not down on swaying at all. Even before mine "Failed" I would have said there's no guarantee, KWIM? All you can do is what your gut tells you is good for you guys, and the rest you have to leave up to the big ol' booger of chance! Or as I've chosen to believe ...God's plan all along. If all I did wasn't enough, I'm darned sure this little lady was headed into our arms from long before I even dreamt of TTC again.

I hope DH comes around sooner rather than later! I really can't believe how kind mine has been with me. And I'm sure I'm not done with it yet, but I'm definitely having more good days than bad this week. I mean seriously at first I was ticked we even got pregnant again, so at least I'm back to being glad to have another baby :) He'll get there! Keep on being gentle with him and he will be thrilled to have her, you all will!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Thanks B! I just want to reiterate that my DH is awesome! He is loving and supportive, but when I prodded him with crying pg hormones, he did talk about what he pictured for his life- at least some sons (mostly because he is a brother of many boys). I really had to push him and I feel like I put him in a corner to answer.

We were just discussing how dd is like him. She went down a big girl slide today- she is about 18 months and flew like a rocket and landed on her butt. I would have thought she would be afraid to go again, but she went right back up. He loves that about her- and that is so his personality. Not mine at all!

I have read all of the studies, and I know the Oxford one well. The key thing with the Oxford one- wasn't so much what they were eating, but the number of overall calories, which I was getting waaaayyy above my norm-2300 or so, compared to my 1500-1800. I am leaning towards TW bc it is easier to do and frankly not so crazy and healthier, but need to see some more stats. I did read some reviews about the flaws of the data from the Oxford study too- I work in a science research setting I have access to every journal.

Another thought though- I had so much ewcm after starting the diet, I could knit sweaters with it. I know that my environment was so different for this dc than dd. I might have just been the unlucky one with a good sway (like you). We might have been the 30% in the 70% effectiveness of our diet to get a dd. Only so much you can do! :)

[begonia]

Spicy, ITA about seeing DH in your DD's ... for heavens sake DD1 is like a pretty version of DH, LOL. Even people who don't know my DH say "she must look like her daddy" because she looks nothing like me. Behavior wise though she's mine, but DD2?!? That girl looks like me (eerily so) but acts just like her daddy. She's a handful. And she's the one who adores him most; they are going to have a LOT of adventures together in life I am sure :)

I see what you're saying about his preference... my DH only had one when pressed too. It wasn't until I was REALLY pressuring him about "are you SURE you're fine with potentially never having a son" that he was like, "well, yes, I can't say I wouldn't love a little guy." And I did feel bad about it. I would have absolutely loved to give him a birth-surprise DS, it would have been pure magic. But I gotta quit thinking about it! Really not a good place for me to go!

I'm with you on seeing so many changes in myself that I KNOW for a fact my sway "worked" in the sense that it changed my hormone levels, my physical muscle/fat balance, etc. It definitely changed me. Just not enough I guess ... I mean realistically like you mention, we might have gotten ourselves 70% boy/30% girl ... but still fall in the 30%. And I guess that's where I'm not sure I'd sway again. I'd probably be devastated to fall in the 30% again and that's why I just don't think I'd sway. I think I'd need to take it as being out of my control, because trying to control it is part of what got me so upset, I think. But everyone reacts differently to that and I see the perspective of "at least I tried!" but that's not how I felt, so for me personally, swaying is probably not part of my future.

IF we have 4! I don't know how y'all do it, ELP and Foxy! Spicy did you grow up with a lot of siblings? I just had one and we're not very close. But I do like the idea of 4 as opposed to 3 because then there's no true middle. I like even numbers. But then I'm like ... FOUR kids?!?! I don't know if DH could get on board with it for real; in theory he says yes, but I think when it comes time to really think about TTC it'll be less likely to go along with it. And I'd have to narrow the gap with #3 and #4 since I'll be almost 34 when this bean is born, my first three will all be about 3 years from one another; #3 and #4 would have to be a less than two year gap. And I'd have to think long and hard about whether I could accept a 4th daughter ... I'm sure I'd have a hard time like I did this time, but if I can get over it this time (and I know I can) I guess I could get over it again :)

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Yep- our Dh's sound awesome!

I grew up with an older bro- a pigeon pair, and we are not close. I desperately remember wanting someone to talk to about my bad day, bullies, life, but I just didn't have that. I didn't really have it in my father or mother too. Maybe if I had a more maternal mom, it could have been like that, but it just isn't who she is- and that is OK. I appreciate her now. I am way more relational than my mom- so hopefully DD(s) cane come to me.

I think for that reason, with pp- the grass is not always greener. It would have been great to have a sister. I think bigger families tend to be closer, and more exciting to come home to in the holidays. I know some might disagree- and it does depend on the parents and how intentional they are, but for me, I know having 3 or 4 kids will be hard energy-wise, mess-wise, and financially, but I think in the long run, I will really be thankful I did. I mean Foxy and ELP still want more kids- I think they get it! I would love for them to chime in!

As for swaying, I don't blame it at all. There isn't anything I can look back on as really destroying our chance. I think for me, in that sense, I don't mind swaying again. I just want to sway in a way it works! :)

[begonia]

Yep- our Dh's sound awesome!

I grew up with an older bro- a pigeon pair, and we are not close. I desperately remember wanting someone to talk to about my bad day, bullies, life, but I just didn't have that. I didn't really have it in my father or mother too. Maybe if I had a more maternal mom, it could have been like that, but it just isn't who she is- and that is OK. I appreciate her now. I am way more relational than my mom- so hopefully DD(s) cane come to me.

I think for that reason, with pp- the grass is not always greener. It would have been great to have a sister. I think bigger families tend to be closer, and more exciting to come home to in the holidays. I know some might disagree- and it does depend on the parents and how intentional they are, but for me, I know having 3 or 4 kids will be hard energy-wise, mess-wise, and financially, but I think in the long run, I will really be thankful I did. I mean Foxy and ELP still want more kids- I think they get it! I would love for them to chime in!

As for swaying, I don't blame it at all. There isn't anything I can look back on as really destroying our chance. I think for me, in that sense, I don't mind swaying again. I just want to sway in a way it works! :)

Spicy I grew up in a similar way! My brother is 3 years older than me and we've really never been close; but our family was very fractured to being with (parents divorced when I was so little I don't remember them being married) so we weren't raised to be a close fam. My mom has herself together now but was a hot mess when I was a kid. DH however grew up pretty storybook and while he was one of 2 kids, his mom was one of 6 and dad one of 10, and I LOVE the idea of the bigger families.

ITA the grass isn't greener ... once she got here and particularly in the last year, DD1 and DD2 are such buddies that I am thrilled to think about them having one another for the rest of their lives. I think it isn't impossible for pigeon pairs or bro/sis from larger families to be tight, but I do think same gender siblings can share experiences in life that different genders can't. So I really am happy for them to have one another. And I hope that DD3 fits right in and they can all be tight, but I do worry about the triangulation of the relationships and how that will work out. Which is why I think sometimes we should just do 4, LOL! But I really don't think DH will go there... but we'll see :) I know his mom and dad will be on my side :rofl:

[Cheekymoo]

Spicy- sorry to hear it looks likely to be a girl :) I know how you feel :) I think I am with begonia in that for me it was hard to accept that in doing everything it still didn't work so don't think i would sway again even if no.4 was going to happen- which is just isn't for us. But i def think you will love to have two DD's mine just love each other:) and i hope that your next is a boy.

AFM- I have checked in on the news for the last week but haven't been posting as i have been trying to make peace with the little girl who is on her way to us. I am focusing on the positives but def find it hard when out and seeing others with a mixed gender bunch of kids...or THE worst ones the PP's! I find that soo hard that they can get one of each from two kids and I can't manage it for 3 kids AND with swaying. :(
I also think the abstolute worst though is the lady across the road has a daughter who is a druggy and just had her second- a boy:( and she doesn't even look after her first ( a girl) who is one...that just seems so unfair as she probably won't even look after the poor little thing anyway and she probably didn't want to get pregnant anyway.....

For all those still to find out i wish you the best I really think everyone should get there DG!

[begonia]

I am focusing on the positives but def find it hard when out and seeing others with a mixed gender bunch of kids...or THE worst ones the PP's! I find that soo hard that they can get one of each from two kids and I can't manage it for 3 kids AND with swaying. :(


Cheeky ITA with this! I'm like, SERIOUSLY!??! I tried SO hard and STILL got 3 girls?!? Saturday I was getting donuts with DD2, and the lady in line in front of me was just chatting and came out she had teenagers who were GGB, the B being an accident... and she was like "Oh I still remember when DH found out it was a boy!" and I about wanted to cry knowing we don't get that moment, or that experience of a son.

Overall I am doing sooooo much better but I can honestly say some things, like that convo, will probably always be a bit of a stab in my heart, even after DD3 is here and wonderful and precious. We are IMO just going to have to learn to live with this being a part of our life where we didn't get what we wanted and I don't know that it will ever be easy. I keep trying to think that 3 of a kind is special in its own way. And it is. I want my DD's to grow up and as adults say growing up with 2 sisters was the best thing ever; that would make my own personal bit of pain about never having a son seem inconsequential, so that's going to be my goal .... for them to think their family make-up is perfect, and if I want them to think that I know I have to get to where I believe it too. Definitely working on it! HUGS to you, happy to see you but also totally understand why you've kept distance.

[babydes56]

Spicy, are you going to have another scan to confirm for sure?

B, sooo glad you feeling better!! I am, just living with the fact that i'm not going to have a son & nothing i can do about it so why stress. You know the other day i was thinking about the money i spent on swaying, crazy..nevermind.

Oh i was going to say i read your post on TTC boy thread about Ramziz, my bub & my cousin's girlfriend looked the same & she's had a boy so NO i dont believe Ramziz. The one i've noticed is my baby's sitting on the left & so was DD2 so i dont know if boys sit on the right maybe 3P1B can answer that. I also noticed that hair growth on my legs has reduced since 20wks

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Spicy, are you going to have another scan to confirm for sure?

B, sooo glad you feeling better!! I am, just living with the fact that i'm not going to have a son & nothing i can do about it so why stress. You know the other day i was thinking about the money i spent on swaying, crazy..nevermind.

Oh i was going to say i read your post on TTC boy thread about Ramziz, my bub & my cousin's girlfriend looked the same & she's had a boy so NO i dont believe Ramziz. The one i've noticed is my baby's sitting on the left & so was DD2 so i dont know if boys sit on the right maybe 3P1B can answer that. I also noticed that hair growth on my legs has reduced since 20wks

For sure, I just am preparing myself for the inevitable. There could always be a surprise. "Girl" nubs can be a boy too. Listen to me..

For Ramzi- baby was on the right (or left side of screen), so whatever to that theory!

[babydes56]

Well you never know, could be boy so lets wait & see. When do you go for the scan? According to Ramziz & where you say your baby is then Ramziz says girl but who knows

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Sorry- no, according to Ramzi, it is boy. I may be getting it mixed up because it was at 6 weeks, but whatever it was, it was boy.

[babydes56]

Oh ok i get you now, yes that's boy then

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Babydes- how many dds do you have? I don't remember your family makeup..

[babydes56]

This will be my 3rd one. When did you say you go for your 20wk scan?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

So, you have been confirmed DD? Mine is in mid November.

[begonia]

Baby, what you said about living without a son and there's nothing you can do about it so why stress ... that's a pretty great, logical attitude. I mean, you're totally right, it's not like all the wishing in the world can change it at this point so what's the point in obsessing. In general I'm not really sad about it anymore, but also I don't really see anything great about having a third girl.... I am excited to have a third child, though. So it'll all work out in time. Part of me still just can't believe this is for real! All the months of prep and hope and now it's over, and it's a girl.

With Ramzi it isn't where the baby is, it's where the placenta is developing ... they can be the same place but often aren't. Your placenta is typically the brightest white part wrapping around the uterus in the image. In mine my baby was tucked right smack in the bottom center but my placenta was on my right (left in screen/pic) and my doc confirmed that ... so for me, definitely not correct. And I *think* 3P1B said hers was on her left, which should have been girl, but obviously she's got pictures to prove it's a boy :) So I don't believe in Ramzi at all!

How're the rest of our blue crew? ELP finds out for sure on the 25th I think. Foxy when do you find out? I have my anatomy scan on the 24th, we'll see if the baby grew a penis in the last 5 weeks :rofl: We aren't finding out though; I don't want to have to tell people it's another girl without a precious baby in my arms. My good friends will be awesome about it but there are plenty of acquaintances who will say things that are unintentionally hurtful, I'm sure. I feel like an all boy family is much more socially acceptable than all girls :(

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Yes- for me placenta and fetus were the same at 6 weeks, obviously. And Begonia, I think most people in America would prefer all girls than all boys. Trust me on this one. Apparently, there is an article about 2 girls being the ideal setting. Google it!

[begonia]

I saw the 2 girls article! I liked it :) I posted a thread on here asking people what they like about being part of or raising a large family and that has helped me to read too ... I wanted three kids for reasons other than gender and I have to keep reminding myself that it is going to be absolutely magical (and absolutely crazy frustrating at times!) and reading other people's stories helps.

Last night DH and I were talking about all of this again, the maybe it's another girl thing, and he's OK with the fact that I still will probably want a son... and OK with the fact that means we might have 4 kids, even if he never ever saw our family with 4. We're just going to take it month by month when the new one arrives and see how 3 feels; in my most honest heart of hearts, I genuinely hope we feel complete with the 3 little ladies. But it's nice to know that if I still feel like we're missing a son, DH will be supportive of trying to make that happen somehow. Sometimes I can't believe how lucky I am to have married someone who's so darn nice to me :)

Spicy I can't help it but I'm still holding out hope for you. I think you're smart to go ahead and have started believing it's girl #2, but still ... until your scan in mid-November, I'm keeping my FX you hear blue. 2 girls is fab though and I still think it would be great to have them back-to-back, but I'd love for you to go ahead and have a DS now so you don't feel as much pressure going for a DS next. FX!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Well- right now I am babysitting my friends 10 week girl, and she is a doll. Love her, so happy to imagine this as our family. But my toddler is going nuts- she had a very crappy shortened nap (Dad of baby woke her up when coming in) so I am trying to cope without just giving into her candy and tv wants. We are currently watching a short clip. Baby is sleeping- so I don't have anexcuse except that she will try to go wake the baby in the other room. I think her behaviour is part toddler part crap nap part new baby in the house. :)

I am not holding out for boy- I saw the nub, but if the nub theory is ever not as reliable as they say it is (94%) then maybe I will have hope. Anyone want to tell me that?

[begonia]

Spicy, I think nub theory is at it's worst on still photos, especially if there is only one pic. I think ELP's first nub scan photos are a prime example of that. BUT ... as she mentioned when she posted them, she SAW a boy nub during the scan. So... and this probably isn't super encouraging, I do think if you're SURE you saw, repeatedly, a flat looking nub during your scan, then you're probably making a very educated guess. It's easy for me to hold out hope since I didn't see it but you know what you saw.

How old is your DD1 again? Mine are 3.5 years apart, this one and DD2 will be 2 years 10 months. I was actually glad this morning that we didn't wait (we had originally planned to try to get pg this fall, instead of back in summer) because IF we have a 4th I can still pop it out before I'm 36.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I didn't see it repeatedly. Probably a total of 10 seconds- DH and I both agree it wasn't 'boyish', but I will say, it looked very penis like- with a large 'round head'. Sorry to be graphic. I do think that I could be wrong, but probably not. Plus I was 13 weeks at the time. Maybe that roundish head part was supposed to be interpreted at the round part that sticks at the top? Who knows. I just know that we will know either way soon.

I have been thinking about my sway- not blaming it at all. I think 'maybe mabye' it failed because I lost 2 pounds. I have no idea in the future how to do IG diet without losing weight, so it seems like TW is probably for me next time. I know I can successfully avoid the processed sugar etc. It is expensive, but hopefully, I can just give it a go.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

She is 1.5 years. Dollface-love her.

[Tink18]

Hey Girls, I just read back and wanted to jump in. So I am the youngest of 3 older brothers. SO naturally I thought i would have boys for sure. When we found out we had DD on the way we were both so excited. We want 3 kids so we will got for another after this even its a boy. My mom knows about the swaying and I asked her if she remembered how she ate and lived when she got pregnant with all 3 of my brothers. She had some interesting things to say. She was married to my biological father who I almost never speak of and no one in my life knows about him, anyway, she said she cooked all the time and he was a meat and potatoes type of asshole. She said they ate constantly. Lots of salty foods and lots fresh juice. That is the only way he would drink his juice. Anyway fast froward to her getting pregnant with me. She had found out SP (sperm donor is what we call him) or FF for F&$K face, so she found out he was having an affair. She left him when she was pregnant with my youngest brother. He is a very powerful important man so when she left his status was questionable. He begged for her back and said he would end the affair, he never did and is currently married to that homewrecking whore. My mom went back to him and birthed my brother. He got very abusive physically worse then in the previous years. She told me he even hit her while she was pregnant, makes me sick. Good god I despise this man. Anyway, so my brother is a baby and FF is increasingly abusive, my mom says she barely eats at this point. She weighed less then she did after birthing all 3 of my brothers. Her diet became lots of protein, quick healthy foods, not hearty anymore. She was so stressed. Again she leaves him as the abuse gets so unreal and she takes off to california where all her family is. HE is in town and he asks her to go to an event with him. She agrees and says she isn't taking him back. They have this ONE night together and I was made!! I found this to be so wild in terms of gender swaying because in a way my mom had a perfect sway. To this day I will never understand why she went back to him because she is one of the strongest women I know. She tells me "back then" its just what you did. Women didnt take a stand as they do now. But I am oddly thankful because neither me or my brother Matt would be here. And he is my best friend. I am really close with all 3 of my brothers. They are my world. We are all 2 1/2 years to 3 years apart. I couldn't imagine my life without them. I even own a business with the younger 2. My oldest lives out of state which sucks. But he has a successful business there. SO with that my point is not to talk about my moms shit life with this a hole...but I just thought it was cool how she ate the boy diet and girl diet without even knowing. I mean for my diet I did do some things that i shouldnt like I ate some chocolate a week before the attempt. I Couldnt help myself. LOL I dont think i will be so upset if this one is a girl, but maybe more in baby #3. but who knows. I can understand how some of you are upset with wanting something so bad and it not turning out to be what you wanted. I think it's perfectly natural. I am use to getting what I want being the only baby girl. SO this will be interesting if I have all girls. I think I will be happy though because I have a very blessed life. Again I dont know. IM trying to stay positive. Im trying not to get to wrapped up and expect much. Does this make sense?

Anyway. I am feeling like crap. And I am only 5 weeks along. I am stunned, with DD i didnt even know I was pregnant yet and I remember feeling fine.

[begonia]

She is 1.5 years. Dollface-love her.

Awwww :) SO sweet. And you know, I'd hold out some hope on that scan. Like I said I think it's great you're prepared to hear girl ... but it's definitely NOT a final answer for you guys yet. There's some hope :) I'll be eagerly awaiting your news!

[3Pink1Blue]

Jumping back in

Ramzi's, yep B mine was high left but it was at 10wks.

B- I could go on all day about how fun 3 girls is, you're just going to have to trust me on this one :) My cousin has 2 boys and is getting harassed about a girl, I've been getting "3 big sisters! Oh that poor boy" I think no matter what you have people give you crap. Love that both you and dh are open to a fourth, fx you feel complete after dd3 is born.

[begonia]

I can understand how some of you are upset with wanting something so bad and it not turning out to be what you wanted. I think it's perfectly natural. I am use to getting what I want being the only baby girl. SO this will be interesting if I have all girls. I think I will be happy though because I have a very blessed life. Again I dont know. IM trying to stay positive. Im trying not to get to wrapped up and expect much. Does this make sense?

Anyway. I am feeling like crap. And I am only 5 weeks along. I am stunned, with DD i didnt even know I was pregnant yet and I remember feeling fine.

Thanks a bunch Tink for sharing! I love hearing how close you are to your brothers, that's super sweet. So sad what your Mama went through, hope she's in a much happier place these days, but yes interesting from a sway perspective.

Anyhow, I will say like you I'm also very much a woman who is used to getting what she wants as an adult! And not because it's handed to me, my childhood sucked. But I'm used to setting goals and taking steps to achieve them and having success. This is quite possibly the only dream I've had for myself that I couldn't make happen and that has definitely made it harder to bear. But really, a son wouldn't make my life better, just different. In all other aspects I too am super blessed, especially because everyone I love is healthy. I rejoice in that for sure :) It's good to keep that at the forefront of my mind and I think you're smart to try to focus on that for now instead of getting wrapped up in gender. I have no doubt you'll weather a second DD just fine, but I sincerely hope you get your DS this time around! If not it is nice to know you'll have another shot. My GD with DD2 was much easier than this one has been bc I knew we still could try again, and I was happy for DD1 to have a sis.

OH and I was like you with DD1! I didn't know I was pg til I was 8 weeks, and then it was bc I felt like crap, I thought I had the flu! But this time I felt sick very early on, like before I even got the BFP. It sucked! But it got better and was actually not a bad first trimester so I hope you turn a corner and feel better soon!

[begonia]

Jumping back in

Ramzi's, yep B mine was high left but it was at 10wks.

B- I could go on all day about how fun 3 girls is, you're just going to have to trust me on this one :) My cousin has 2 boys and is getting harassed about a girl, I've been getting "3 big sisters! Oh that poor boy" I think no matter what you have people give you crap. Love that both you and dh are open to a fourth, fx you feel complete after dd3 is born.

Awww, thanks Jen! I keep thinking about the pic you posted of your 3 girls when DD3 was born. Super sweet!

There is a couple who just joined our Sunday school with GGGB, and when the dad was introducing himself and talking about their kids he laughed and said "We have 3 girls and a boy, boy is the youngest. So basically he has 4 mothers." But it was super sweet, not at all the type of thing that made you think "poor boy." Your little man's going to feel so much love from those girls that it's going to set the bar awfully high for girls he dates! Not a bad thing at all!

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- dh had 3 brothers and 1 sister. 3 boys born while both parents worked and money was ok, dh's dad left and his mom struggled financially. Dad comes back and she almost immediatly conceives the girl. Both working money ok again and here comes boy #4. I know tons of families like this, it's quite interesting really.

B- I actually kind of fear for him w/dd1, she already thinks she's my second in command lol

[Tink18]

"But really, a son wouldn't make my life better, just different.".....This is the best way it can ever be put! honestly. I love this! I think everyone should live by this!

[Tink18]

I totally get the "how come everyone i Know has 2 kids 1 boy and 1 girl" This is me. All my friends have at least one of each and never did anything special to get it. It is so annoying to me.

DO you think there is something to "stress" and conceiving girls. I can honestly say I was SOOOO stressed when we made Ava Jean. But with this one I feel like I was way more calm, I mean who knows....If i look at my friends lives and their genders...its could make sense? Or maybe I am just making it make sense!

[3Pink1Blue]

If you believe IG, stress sways boy because it raises testosterone. I too try to rationalize it and still believe it's all about the diet, for some I think subtle changes can make the difference for others it takes oh so much more.

[begonia]

I will say I don't have a ton of close friends that have a PP, when I think about my "group" I'd say half have PP and half have BB or GG. I have a group of 8 friends I'm very close to, and in that group of 8 I will be the only one with 3 kids, the rest are all 2 kid families ... but a couple do plan to add one more though; 3 is really common here. Within that group, 4 have PP. The rest either have GG or BB. So I guess half do have PP which is maybe what you'd expect in a normal population?

When I think about their diets, lifestyles, etc. I don't really see a distinct G or B vein, KWIM? The friend I spend the most time with has BB, and she is actually a very textbook girl diet .. no breakfast, diet drinks all day long, very little meat, lots of refined processed foods. But 2 boys! My 4 friends with PP the interesting thing is that all of them had a much harder time getting pregnant. Myself, 2 other GG moms, and one BB mom are all OHW! So at least in our group, lower fertility favors the PP.

OH and one other thing I've noticed among families IRL. BBG seems MUCH more common than GGB. It seems to me the 2 girl thing is harder to "beat" than the 2 boy. I know lots of GGG, extremely few GGB, but equal numbers of BBG and BBB.

Stress. I've heard both on that Tink... some say sways boy, some say sways girl. I was quite stressed when we got pg with DD1. Working a lot, traveling all week, we just bought our 1st house and were doing some construction on it. DD2 not stressed at all, and this one ... moderate. I had been worrying about something the month prior to our getting pg but in the 3-4 weeks prior to conception was super relaxed :) We had been on a great vacay to Portland, just me and DH, and I got to eat a TON and I remember thinking surely that had to be good for the sway! Anyhow, I wonder if stress in some sways blue and in others sways pink? I wonder too if depend on your reaction to stress? Like I would think someone who feels stress but a sense of control over the situation would be high T, whereas someone who feels stressed but hopeless would be more of a girl-sway-stress.

Who knows?!? It's fun to try to figure out though, isn't it? I wish I knew what to try differently if there's a next time for us, but honestly I'd probably toss it up to chance, or fate ... I can see for us at least the next one being a spontaneous what the heck let's just do it kinda thing :)

So Tink, if y'all get your son do you think you'd sway again with #3 and if so B or G?!? Love Ava Jean by the way :) Do you call her by her full name? Jean is so fresh with a 50's kinda flair to me, I dig it and you don't hear it much anymore. At least not where I live. I totally love baby naming. I guess that's one bonus to us having another girl. Boy name we had figured out, girl name I get to play with for several more months!

[begonia]

If you believe IG, stress sways boy because it raises testosterone. I too try to rationalize it and still believe it's all about the diet, for some I think subtle changes can make the difference for others it takes oh so much more.

I agree .... I think that is what I was thinking when I mentioned in the above post about GGG being much more common than BBB, at least in our community. I can think of many more BBG families than I can GGB. Lots and lots of GGG though. Seems like it is easier for those boy makers to make a girl than us girl makers to make a boy!

[3Pink1Blue]

B- love your thoughts on stress and being how you react. I think a lot of swaying is about changing your body which is not always an exact formula. I definitely do think it's easier for some then others.

[begonia]

I posted a thread in the research section but thought I'd post a link here since we were talking about stress and what it sways ... according to this study (and doesn't it seem there's always a study supporting either side?!?) it sways girl:
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/stress-linked-to-sex-of-babies-2907895.html

[Tink18]

Interesting views Begonia. About my Ava Jean, Her name was specifially chosen becasue Ava mean small delicate bird. In my family humingobirds are very close and dear to our hearts as my grandma loved them. So when I first got pregnant with Ava we had some complications, we lost her twin and I almost thought we were going to lose her. When I got back from my Doctors app the day they wanted to schedule a DNC, I sat in my back yard and a hummingbird flew basically right in my face. I felt it was my grandma telling me she was in there. So i didn't book the DNC, I asked them to wait a few more weeks to see a sac. They gave me an app for 2 weeks after that and sure enough there was my baby girl. I knew in that moment she would be Ava. And the Jean is a family tradition the first and or only daughter is always jean. I'm Cathy Jean, my mom is Holly Jean and so on, on and soooo on! It goes back years. I love it, and I am honored to have kept the tradition going. If we have a boy this time, I will try and sway for another boy. I have always imagined I was have 2 boys 1 girl. In that order...but I'll take 1 girl and 2 boys. If i get all girls that is gods plan and wow they will be well dressed! I have ABSOLUTELY no girl names in mine and I think we have agreed if its a boy he will be Zaine Thomas. I need to think if girl names........any ideas!

[babydes56]

Baby, what you said about living without a son and there's nothing you can do about it so why stress ... that's a pretty great, logical attitude. I mean, you're totally right, it's not like all the wishing in the world can change it at this point so what's the point in obsessing. In general I'm not really sad about it anymore, but also I don't really see anything great about having a third girl.... I am excited to have a third child, though. So it'll all work out in time. Part of me still just can't believe this is for real! All the months of prep and hope and now it's over, and it's a girl.

With Ramzi it isn't where the baby is, it's where the placenta is developing ... they can be the same place but often aren't. Your placenta is typically the brightest white part wrapping around the uterus in the image. In mine my baby was tucked right smack in the bottom center but my placenta was on my right (left in screen/pic) and my doc confirmed that ... so for me, definitely not correct. And I *think* 3P1B said hers was on her left, which should have been girl, but obviously she's got pictures to prove it's a boy :) So I don't believe in Ramzi at all!

How're the rest of our blue crew? ELP finds out for sure on the 25th I think. Foxy when do you find out? I have my anatomy scan on the 24th, we'll see if the baby grew a penis in the last 5 weeks :rofl: We aren't finding out though; I don't want to have to tell people it's another girl without a precious baby in my arms. My good friends will be awesome about it but there are plenty of acquaintances who will say things that are unintentionally hurtful, I'm sure. I feel like an all boy family is much more socially acceptable than all girls :(

Hun i hear about being thrilled to have a another baby but not excited about a third girl!! I tell you what, i honestly felt so much better once i told people i was having another girl. I waited for the rude comments & did get a few that upset me but it all went away soon enough so i think once you've had baby you'll feel so much better within yourself. Also DH keeps me balanced when i go off on why me talk so i think that has helped put things into perspective & i think if your DH knew he too would be doing the same. I'm glad you starting to feel better about it, i know it still doesnt change our need for a son though

[babydes56]

Hey Girls, I just read back and wanted to jump in. So I am the youngest of 3 older brothers. SO naturally I thought i would have boys for sure. When we found out we had DD on the way we were both so excited. We want 3 kids so we will got for another after this even its a boy. My mom knows about the swaying and I asked her if she remembered how she ate and lived when she got pregnant with all 3 of my brothers. She had some interesting things to say. She was married to my biological father who I almost never speak of and no one in my life knows about him, anyway, she said she cooked all the time and he was a meat and potatoes type of asshole. She said they ate constantly. Lots of salty foods and lots fresh juice. That is the only way he would drink his juice. Anyway fast froward to her getting pregnant with me. She had found out SP (sperm donor is what we call him) or FF for F&$K face, so she found out he was having an affair. She left him when she was pregnant with my youngest brother. He is a very powerful important man so when she left his status was questionable. He begged for her back and said he would end the affair, he never did and is currently married to that homewrecking whore. My mom went back to him and birthed my brother. He got very abusive physically worse then in the previous years. She told me he even hit her while she was pregnant, makes me sick. Good god I despise this man. Anyway, so my brother is a baby and FF is increasingly abusive, my mom says she barely eats at this point. She weighed less then she did after birthing all 3 of my brothers. Her diet became lots of protein, quick healthy foods, not hearty anymore. She was so stressed. Again she leaves him as the abuse gets so unreal and she takes off to california where all her family is. HE is in town and he asks her to go to an event with him. She agrees and says she isn't taking him back. They have this ONE night together and I was made!! I found this to be so wild in terms of gender swaying because in a way my mom had a perfect sway. To this day I will never understand why she went back to him because she is one of the strongest women I know. She tells me "back then" its just what you did. Women didnt take a stand as they do now. But I am oddly thankful because neither me or my brother Matt would be here. And he is my best friend. I am really close with all 3 of my brothers. They are my world. We are all 2 1/2 years to 3 years apart. I couldn't imagine my life without them. I even own a business with the younger 2. My oldest lives out of state which sucks. But he has a successful business there. SO with that my point is not to talk about my moms shit life with this a hole...but I just thought it was cool how she ate the boy diet and girl diet without even knowing. I mean for my diet I did do some things that i shouldnt like I ate some chocolate a week before the attempt. I Couldnt help myself. LOL I dont think i will be so upset if this one is a girl, but maybe more in baby #3. but who knows. I can understand how some of you are upset with wanting something so bad and it not turning out to be what you wanted. I think it's perfectly natural. I am use to getting what I want being the only baby girl. SO this will be interesting if I have all girls. I think I will be happy though because I have a very blessed life. Again I dont know. IM trying to stay positive. Im trying not to get to wrapped up and expect much. Does this make sense?

Anyway. I am feeling like crap. And I am only 5 weeks along. I am stunned, with DD i didnt even know I was pregnant yet and I remember feeling fine.

Forgot to congratulate & welcome you! Hope you get your boy too

[begonia]

Baby I'm so glad you haven't had to deal with many rude comments! I keep reminding myself people aren't meaning to be insensitive; they don't know how badly I wanted a son. And my close friends will be awesome about it but strangers are the ones who will probably say stuff that makes me want to either hit them or cry :) Will deal with it as it comes I suppose. I'm so glad your DH is such a good support. I have a friend who had her 3rd girl and her DH was literally crushed. It's one thing to deal with our own disappointment but if I had to deal with his too it'd be horrible. I'm so glad it's just me!

My 2 DD's have been getting along so well lately that I keep thinking another girl is probably the best thing for our family. After all this person isn't coming here just for me :)

Tink what a sweet story about Ava! Hopefully you won't have to pick another girl name! Initially in this pregnancy when DH would ask me about girl names I wouldn't even talk about them. I reeeeeally though it was a boy so I'm super glad I know, because girls names take me awhile! There are lots of fun baby naming blogs but my fave is youcantcallitit. We have a female family women's middle name too, Delia, it goes back 4 generations. My mom and I were not talking when I had DD1 so I didn't use it, and with DD2 it didn't work well with her 1st name, but we might use it as the middle on DD3.

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- love your story! My LMP is the day after my late great-grandmother's birthday, I've traveled this pregnancy in hopes that she would bring me a son and keep him safe. She was still alive when dd1 was born and dd has her middle name. I love fa,ily names all my kids have em!

Baby- I totally agree, it was much easier dealing with dd3 once everyone else knew. I also got much less crappy comments then I thought I would.

B- I hear ya on baby girl names, I had a few but nothing I loved.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Love the positiveness of this thread!

A friend who has 2dd just announced a third pg. 10 weeks. Two people made comments about 'trying for a boy' on fb. Wanted to punch them. Can you do that on fb? It didn't so much bother me, but bothered me if it might bother the couple.

I am struggling with girl names y'all. We love our dd's name. It was easy to pick, but now, stuck!

Btw- I know LOTS Of GGB. More than GGG, etc. Also, I know lots of BB or GG pairs- about equal with PP. It should be 50% PP and 50% BB or GG (25% each). I bet if you counted on fbook- you would see that too. It makes me realize that 1 out of 2 friends has the same gender, and life can be happy.

[begonia]

It makes me realize that 1 out of 2 friends has the same gender, and life can be happy.

FWIW I was happier with my 2 DD than I am at this point thinking of 3; 2 I felt like it was still pretty normal really, like you said, loads of people have BB or GG. It's the 3rd where I feel a little cheated. Like I went the extra mile here and still can't get both genders?!?! My own issue to deal with obviously... I mean life isn't "fair" in lots of ways and I've certainly won big in other categories. I can only imagine how the moms with 4+ same gender feel.

I think I'm still just having such a hard time believing this isn't a boy, LOL! I mean I know it isn't, I'm not doubting my scan. But I'm just floored in some ways because I always thought we'd have a son, and to realize we won't just isn't processing in my brain. At all. I wish it would just click and I'd "get" it but for some reason I can't connect the dots and get on board with DD3. I spent so long visualizing our son (I felt like that was an important thing with the sway, believing it would work, and I convinced myself better than I realized!) that to undo all of that is really hard. I'm not so devastated anymore I just can't seem to visualize a 3rd girl in our family. I'm sure she'll make that easy once she gets here.

I will say I hope I can just pop out one child who isn't insanely picky about clothing. It's 65 here now and I can't get DD2 out of her swimsuit without a massive battle and an hour of crying after I win. Her crying, not me ... me holding my breath to avoid screaming at her. DD1 was equally difficult but it was a pair of pajamas she wanted on full time.

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I agree- 3 does make it more committal. But, 3 of a gender happens all the time. And would happen more if people had more than the average 2.2 children. We would all see.

Also, I am bummed B, bc I was swearing that you would be from my home state- possibly my home city and that we could hang out. But no way it is 65 there right now. Oh wait- the forecast says 68! So maybe we are from the same place (though I don't live there anymore). I do come home to visit though. Hmm. Detective work (totally ignoring your desire to remain anonymous).....

[begonia]

LOL! Spicy I'm from Texas :) It might actually be 68 today, I'm not sure ... I'm just really happy we're finally not sweating anymore! I don't know where you lived to begin with but I seem to remember back when you were TTC that you and DH had an international move coming up?

And I do agree; 3 of a kind is pretty common too. I've posted before about the crazy amounts of people I know here with 3 girls. It's nuts how many 3 girl families there are here! I wonder if we were all going for the boy or how many of them really didn't care? Technically I straddle the "going for the boy" and "didn't care" line because really, we were going to have 3 regardless. I just naively thought ONE would be a boy!

I was thinking about how many families of 4 I know and can come up with 7, three of those 7 families though the "kids" are my age now. But of those, only one is all girl, only one is all boy, and the other 5 are mixed. Of the mixed, 2 had the same gender until the 4th child... the other 3 had mixed before they ever had DC3.

Today I went shopping for a present for a friend who just had a baby girl. Baby girl stuff is cute but I sure am tired of buying it .... would it be so wrong to dress DD3 in boy infant clothes?!?! :rofl:

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I get your feelings on 3 girls. 2 was oh how cute once we had three it was omg. All those comments were from strangers and unfortunately some strangers will always be jerks while others will tell you how gorgeous they are and you are so lucky.

See I'm at the other end of disbelief. After all these years I can't seem to accept I am having a boy. I think delivery day is going to be a huge dose of reality for both of us.

Omg I battle clothes too, one thing I do is set up dates that clothes rotate. For instance as of Oct 1st no more sandals or shorts/capris. Nov 1st no more short sleeve shirts and we bring out sweaters and tights must be worn with skirts. No clothing with snowflakes till there's snow on the ground. April brings back short sleeve shirts and tights become optional. May brings shorts capris and sandals.
It may sound strange but i've done it since dd1 was 2 or 3 so it's just common place and hey don't argue.

[begonia]

3P1B I get why you're still in disbelief too :) Heck even if this was a boy I'd be right there thinking NO WAY it was real. You do need to get DH the coffee mug with the potty shot on it, LOL ... I remember that being mentioned forever ago. Delivery day is going to be just magic for you all; I can't wait to hear all about it. Are you having a shower before he arrives (HE!!!) or will you wait until after? I'm sure your friends are excited and wanting to celebrate with you.

Good idea on the clothes rules! It's hard here because seriously, it'll be 65 today but 90 next week. So I can't really put away shorts (or even swimwear, LOL) until maybe January, and even then ... who knows. DD1 outgrew it around 3, she was still picky but we didn't run into the inappropriate category, so I'm thinking DD2 is going to get out of this phase soon. Today I let her wear the swimsuit but she had to wear it under pants and a long sleeve shirt. Total PITA to change a diaper though!

[babydes56]

Spicy, i'm struggling with girl name too & i dont know if it's because i just never thought i'd have 3 girls. I've looked on the internet but nothing, hope we find something before baby arrives.

B, i too was ok with picture of 2 girls but 3's a crowd! I'll have to get used to the idea some day

3P1B, i bet you'll only believe it when you see his goods, sweet.

I went to pick DD2 from nursery yesterday & one of nursery teachers who's also preg couldnt wait to tell me she's having a boy & then kinda looked at my face like "so are you jealous" because she knew i wanted a boy. I was happy for her but didnt appreciate the way she ran for me as soon as i got in

[begonia]

Baby that's pretty rotten of that lady! Good for you though for being happy for her. I agree; it seems there are baby boys and boy pregnancies every where I turn around. But like you, I'm not envious of other people and I can be happy for them in spite of my own disappointment. And the fact is (and I know you all get this) it isn't like I would change any of my girls, even this one I haven't met yet, because I know I'll adore her too. I just ALSO want a boy.

Another reason I'm really glad we aren't "finding out" is I have zero desire to buy baby girl clothes again. I'm perfectly happy buying an all-white layette. At least that's something different for me.

We've had one girls name we considered for both DD1 and DD2 but didn't use, so we just decided we'll use that this time. Neither of us really want to spend loads of time with it. It's not super exciting to pick out your 3rd same-gender name, or buy your next same-gender layette, plan yet another girls birth announcement ... long run I am excited to see her personality and her interact with her sisters, but the baby preparation phase is decidedly less exciting for me knowing it'll be another girl.

Oh well. I know we all have perspective enough to realize these are nice "problems" to have. With so much sad news on the board yesterday (the pregnancy October chat thread) I am well aware how blessed I am to have a healthy nugget nestled in here. Really looking forward to the scan I have on Monday.

Baby is DD2 excited to have a sister? I think your DD1 is a bit older, or am I wrong?

[3Pink1Blue]

B- my dad and his adorable girlfriend are throwing us a shower next month. My dad lives in Arizona and his girlfriend in California and since they are coming out for dd2's birthday and then won't be back till Feb so it's really the best time.

The clothing rules are based on our climate and they took me a few years to get right. There is always an optional mommy override in place because we often have late falls and early springs.

Baby- awe that's just mean for her to rush you like that. Sorry Hun :( yeah I really think I'm going to need to actually see the goods to believe. I still feel like we are just pretending.

[Tink18]

what kind of labors does everyone have? What do you believe is best for yo or your baby? Do you breast feed or formula feed? Bed share or not!! Gimme the details!

[babydes56]

B, DD2 was absolutely gutted when we told her she's having a another sister. She said "no i want a brother", he's name is George lool. Our neighbour & the nursery also said when they asked her if she was looking forward to her little sister she said no & insisted she's having a brother! I guess she feels the same way i do. DD1 said on the day of the scan that she really wanted a brother but she knew it was a girl because she had got her hopes up high thinking boy when i was preg with DD2. I asked her how she felt knowing she wont have a brother & she said fine because she doesnt know any different. She's excited for the baby & cant wait for the arrival.

3P1B, i know it was mean & when she approached me it wasnt like we were alone there were 3 other teachers waiting to see my reaction. I know she was excited & didnt mean to offend me but i still didnt appreciate it. Anyway i better get used to such because i'll probably experience it from time to time

[babydes56]

what kind of labors does everyone have? What do you believe is best for yo or your baby? Do you breast feed or formula feed? Bed share or not!! Gimme the details!

I've had c-sections with my 2 so will be having another with DD3. I breastfed DD1 until she was 10-11mths because she totally refused the bottle, had a hard with that. I tried to breastfeed DD2 but she just wouldnt latch on properly no matter what position we put her in & then of course i ended up with sore nipples. I still insisted on trying up to 6mths but she was hungry & so we ended up giving her formula. No i didnt bed share with either of them.

What did you do with your DD?

[3Pink1Blue]

Baby- my neighbor just had her third dd but when they first told dd1 that it was another girl she didn't talk to them for 3 days. She's 5 lol. It took a few weeks and she was all over another sister and now that she's here dd1 in completely infatuated with her new sister. My dd1 was devastated at the thought of having a brother and now she tells everyone who will listen about Charlie. It's hard but now but she'll get over it.

Tink- dd1 was 7 days late after 6 days of contractions. I stopped dilating and after 7hrs and finally had to get pitocin to get her out. After 48 hrs of labor I got an epidural and she was born 2 hrs later. I hated the epidural but was simply to exhausted to carry on. I bf her solely till 9 months when we introduced food but I continued to bf till she was a yr old.
Dd2- was born after less then 12 hrs of labor and a mear 45 minutes after arriving at the hospital. Her birth was completely natural and amazing. Like dd1 I nursed solely till 9 months and continued with food till she was 13 months.
Dd3- 6 days late with 6 days of contractiions. Pitocin & epidural finally got her out. Nursed solely till 9mo then with food till a year.

I'm a staunch breastfeeder, none of mine have ever had formula. I'm not against formula it's just not for us.

All of mine have slept with us for the first week or so but then we send them to the crib. They all started sleeping 6+ hrs a night starting at a week or so so once they do we move them to their own room.

If I could choose how this delivery goes it would be on time, totally natural and of course just the breast.

[WashingtonPromise]

what kind of labors does everyone have? What do you believe is best for yo or your baby? Do you breast feed or formula feed? Bed share or not!! Gimme the details!

DD1: Induced at 42wks....had pitocin for 39 hrs (pain med free) and they gave me the option of c-section or epidural. I chose the epi and had her after 40 hours of labor and only 2 pushes. The docs told me to give them some practice pushes, and she landed on the table....40 hrs was long enough for both of us. She was 6lb 5 oz

DS1: I had decided after the last labor, that I was not going to spend any extra time in the hospital than I had to. So, at 41.5 wks I was sent the hospital for a non-stress test and my water broke there on the bed :( 20 hr labor, pitocin, epidural, and 20 minutes worth of "split me open" pushing....he was born with his hand by his face. 7lb 11oz

DS2: I was induced 3 times with pitocin before this guy decided to show (on my father and my FIL's shared birthday) @42 wks. 12 hr labor, epidural, 4 pushes.....8lb 4oz.

DD2: Induced at 41 wks, 10 hr labor, pitocin, epidural, couple pushes (born with both hands by her face)....7lb8oz.

Here is where things change a little.... I got sooooo tired of being induced and the stupid policies that make you be induced to begin with. So, I started taking something called 5W, that is a mix of 5 herbs that help your uterus get ready for labor. I was going to have a drug free labor and delivery. The pitocin was such an unnatural kind of pain that after 10+ hrs I needed the epi.

DD3: Went into labor on my own on her due date at 2:30pm and she was born as soon as we made it to the hospitsl at 6:35. I was sooo excited to go drug free and NOT go over due!!!.....6lb15oz....oh, 3 pushes

DD4: Very intense labor, I got up at midnight to take DD3 to the bathroom and as I got back in the bed I heard a POP, I ran to the bathroom and my waterbroke as I stepped on the tile. I called hubby who was on the night shift at the police dept, but told him not to rush because I was not having contractions yet (big mistake). He got home about 45 minutes later (which is normal and how far the hospital is) and kept feeling like I had to poop and I didn't want to do that while pushing. At this point I was having conx right on top of each other. I just wanted to get into the jetted tub, but hubby called the midwife and she asked him to check me (which he knows how to do) and I was almost fully dialated. We rushed to the hospital and she was born right when we walked threw the door at 1:35am. The birth pics look so much better w/o me in an ugly gown :) 8lb 3oz


The last 2 were by far the best, no drugs, no IV, no nothing, just enough time to have a baby. I did the Bradley method while in labor. We have BF all the children....yeah we....I mean "I". I do some cosleeping while nursing, but we are very careful and it is only while nursing. I will take the 5W herb this time too.

Oh, and I have never had any stiches or tears....thank God, my midwife is always amazed because I am a smaller person.....no "birthing hips", etc

I can't wait to start picking out names and outfits.....both boy and girl. But, we are going to wait until we hear a heartbeat.

[3Pink1Blue]

Wp- dd1 was born with her hand by her face, I had no tearing till the bent elbow emerged. Luckily only a couple stitches needed and that was my only time.
ITA about pitocin, unnatural evil contractions. And oh Bradley's is awesome. I love an unmediated, no iv birth!

What's the 5w herb?

[begonia]

All of mine have slept with us for the first week or so but then we send them to the crib. They all started sleeping 6+ hrs a night starting at a week or so so once they do we move them to their own room.


Well I don't like you at all, LOL. Neither of mine slept thru the night til about 11 months. Good times.

Fun Q Tink!

DD1: 11 hour induced labor at 40w2d with pitocin and epidural. It was a great choice for me at that time in my life; we weren't ready for a baby and I really had no desire to be doing L&D at all. I actually fell asleep once the epi was in, slept for 6 hours, my doc woke me up and I pushed her out in 20 minutes. 7lbs, 13oz. Of course then I fell totally in love and couldn't believe I hadn't wanted a baby :bigsmile:

DD2: I didn't want to be induced with her so was prepared to wait her out, but luckily labor started in the early am the day after her due date. Contractions woke me up at 6am, I went for a walk thinking it would either bring them on or make them stop if it was false labor, and was well over a half mile from my house when I realized I was most definitely in labor, LOL. Got myself back home, showered, dropped DD off at a friends and were at the hospital around 8am. I was 8cm dilated but my water hadn't broken yet! Finally did, I caved and got an epidural, an hour later it was time to push and it took for-ever to get her out; a solid hour of pushing. I remember it being MUCH harder than getting DD1 out... turned out DD2 was a hefty 9lb 2oz.

DD3 we'll see. My doc says we'll check her size via u/s at 39 weeks; if she's looking to be another big one I will choose to be induced at 40w if labor hasn't started on its own. Ideally, I'll go into labor on my own, not have an epi, and have a nice little 7lb'er. But ideally I'd also be birthing my son :rofl: Sometimes what we want and what we get don't line up :)

I never sleep with my babies even in the same room as me; I physically can't sleep with them there. So they go in their bedrooms immediately, but their rooms have always been right next to ours ... the new house our kids rooms are upstairs but I have a guest suite down that I plan to use as a nursery. I breastfed both til 1 year. I'm not opposed to formula at all breastfeeding has just come very easily to me and the babies, so we'll see how this one does.

We'll have a night nanny for the first month which is SWEET because she sleeps in the nursery with the baby and will bring her to me to nurse, then she'll change her diaper and get her back to sleep. I didn't do it with the first two but am 100% doing it this time and feel no guilt about it :) If like Jen my babies slept 6+ hours at a time within a week I wouldn't waste my money though, LOL!

[3Pink1Blue]

Yeah sorry B, we have great sleepers :) dd1 slept 10 hrs at 5 days old, luckily she only did it the one night because I thought my boobs were going to explode lol With the exception of dd2 and her severe GERD I've never gotten up more then twice a night :bigsmile:

So am I the only one having fairly little babies?! Dd1 was 7lbs 4oz, dd2 6lbs 15oz and dd3 7lbs 3oz. I'm 5'8" so my midwife is floored that my babes are so petite.

[begonia]

Baby I'm sorry to hear the girls were both wanting a brother, I know that likely didn't help you feel any better either. FX they get excited shopping for some stuff for her. It's funny but DD1 just figured it's a girl ... she's already told her kindy teacher (who also has 3DD) that we're having a girl, and I haven't corrected her and neither has DH. DD2 doesn't really even get what's going on, I still don't look pregnant to either of them, so it hasn't clicked at all for her 2 year old brain. I don't know that she'll care. She'll probably wish we got her a pet lizard instead of a little sister.

[3Pink1Blue]

Oh and I posted a pic of my giant 24 week belly on the ttc thread :)

[begonia]

Wow, Jen, just wow on the sleep. I keep my FX this one is better about it. But I hear ya on the boob explosion thing, I forgot about that! Booo! It is SUPER uncomfortable! Man. I really hadn't remembered that part ... darn it! One more thing to "look forward" to, LOL.

You would think you'd have bigger babies! It'll be interesting to see what the little guy weighs in at :bigsmile:

[3Pink1Blue]

Believe me, I know we've been super lucky in the sleeping department. They can sleep through anything too it's was hard work teaching them this but it's great.

I hope he's a bit bigger without running late. It's one of those dumb things to complain about but having a baby that preemie is too short and newborn is way to big sucks.

[ELP]

what kind of labors does everyone have? What do you believe is best for yo or your baby? Do you breast feed or formula feed? Bed share or not!! Gimme the details!I'll start with the shortest answer lol

B/f for between 7-16 months, I'm usually too cheap to buy formula lol! But my last baby turned her head away from the boob at 3 months and just wouldn't take it, I had started giving her a pumped bottle at night and she must have preferred the faster flow as she just wouldn't take it from the boob anymore:( utterly heart breaking.

Co-slept, with a couple, DD/DC1 for 4 years!!! But its amazing how when you breast feed you can wake in the morning with a baby under your armpit not realising you had fallen asleep with them, then a prompt hairwash to remove the odour of onions and garlic off of babies head :bigsmile:

Labors, all good, no stiches to date, no bleeds, longest which was No1 12 hrs, pethadine and G&A with her but the rest G&A. No4 could have just fell out! I turned up at the hospital said I wasn't sure if things had started or not but I've come in just in case, she checked it was 8 cm! and said if I pop your water baby will be here, so she did and she was lol!!! I could do that delivery weekly:agree: Then the labors have definately got more painful since, last one was evil, I think its overstretched muscles?? But dreading the next as it maybe a 10lber.

I labor alone, get a taxi in, have baby, get a taxi home, but found messaging the kids at home during the last really helped take my mind off things, so I'm hoping that santa will bring me a phone that can connect to here so that I can have a giggle with you lot next time aswell, just hope I don't get the messages muddled on the G&A as DH doesn't know I use the forum and would flip lol!!!!

[begonia]

Ladies I gotta take a breather ... I wish everyone all the best with their pregnancies, with getting the DG, etc ... but my GD is so bad today I just think I need to try to move on entirely from ever having "tried" to have a son. I can't BEAR the fact that I am going to have three daughters right now. The GD is making me dissatisfied with the children I already have and that is really making me angry; but it's true ... having a third daughter is just magnifying that I AM A GIRL MOM when I never wanted to be. But life isn't always what we want is it? And we have to make the best of it. And as always of course I know ... lucky they are healthy, worrying about gender is a luxury problem to have, etc. But today the pain is just unbearable so I think I'm going to try the one thing I haven't and that's letting go of here.

Take care and all the best :kiss:

[TTC5]

Sorry to thread crash, but just have to send you much love, B xxxx

[skrimpy]

Also sending thoughts and peace for you B ((hugs)). It's hard to see through the shadows now but know there is light to come.

[Cheekymoo]

#Hugs# Begonia! - I know how you feel hun- thats why I am a little distant just come on when i am up to it ATM :) Hope the last few days have been a bit better- I know it is a bit of an up and down kinda thing. xoxo

[babydes56]

Hugs B, hope you feel better soon! Hope your scan helps you bond with the baby.

ELP, is your scan today or tomorrow? FX you hear boy!

[ELP]

:hugs:B, hope you get some comfort soon xxxx:hugs:

[ELP]

BabyD, my scan is tomorrow! 10.35am so in about 16 hrs from now over here:) Its my b'day today aswell lol. I got, a water infection, sickness bug and the biggest flippin cold sore on the middle of my top lip that you've ever seen! I'm just hoping xmas brings me something a little nicer:rofl: But in truth I'm falling to bits, my leg also keeps giving out underneath me, I have definately hit the top of that hill!!!

[Tink18]

HI all, I am so glad my cousins wedding is FINALLY over. Now I can relax. I was so tired all days yesterday and HOly shit my hormones are crazy. I told my husband i felt like I was losing my mind. I never felt like this with Ava. I just feel tired, sore, weepy, a little crazy all at the same time, like i jump out of my skin. I hope this passes soon.

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I know you won't see this but big hugs. Take care of yourself hun, it will get better.

ELP - ahhhh so excited!!! sorry you're feeling a bit beat up right now but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

Tink- Glad the wedding is over and you can relax. I can't believe you're almost 7 wks already!

[ELP]

Thankyou ladies:hugs: 4 hrs to go!!!!!! I will update asap but if DH is hanging around it may have to wait d'oh!!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

ELP- you should know by now! Hope you got blue!

[ELP]

I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And its a little man for us:HH::baby2: Over the moon:) The kids are excited for another brother, and are already picking some ridculous names lol, But a 100% healthy little boy it is:HH: I didn't get any pictures of the money shots just face and fat!!! belly lol, but we saw a little snail as soon as she put the wand on, then a between the leg shot with nothing! so when she asked I did I want to know I said yes just so I didn't spend the next 20 weeks wondering why I didn't see anything:bigsmile:

[babydes56]

OMG that's brilliant news ELP! I bet you chuffed. Do you know when i read your post the other day about how you chose your timing i felt if i had done similar i could have up'd my chance slightly because when i looked back at my previous charts i tended to ovulate on the first day of +OPk & still went on to have 2 more days ++ which threw me off. Anyway wot's done is done. I am really thrilled for you & your family, any names yet? Blue thread getting some happy news now!!

[ELP]

Thankyou babyD:HH: DH is liking David for a boy, not my 1st choice but he does name the boys so its out of my hands lol. The timing thing was definately a chance, before my hopeful nub shot the timing was the one thing I wished I had done differently! I thought the 2 days away was too long and the 1 day was the money timing, but you just can't completely predict when that + is gonna come can you, luckily for me that little bit of luck:luck: swung my way and he's gonna be so cute:kiss::bigsmile:

[3Pink1Blue]

WOOHOO ELP!! YAY for more BLUE!!

[DoulaMama]

AMAZING NEWS!!!!! YAY for you ELP!!!! Doing a little BLUE dance over here with my blue crew:) Wahooooo!

[Tink18]

yayyy another blue!! Congrats!

[skrimpy]

Congrats on a son ELP!!

[nuthinbutpink]

That's great, ELP! Glad you got confirmation!

[begonia]

Congrats and Happy Birthday ELP!

[My Fabulous Children]

:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:ELP, Congratulations on your little boy!!! :bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:

[Cheekymoo]

Congrats ELP!!

[littlemisswilko]

congrats on you little boy ELP!! xx

[ELP]

Thankyou ladies:HH: I'm just trying to get myself used to the name David??? LOL. I suppose Davey is quite cute isn't it?? Dave just sounds so??? garage! doesn't it lol, not that theres anything wrong with mechanics!! Hell no! A mechanic called Dave in the family may be very useful:bigsmile:

[littlemisswilko]

what are your other children called? as i think names should kept sort of the same type i mean for example if your dd had some strange unusual name like pheonix for example and then to have a ds and call him Bob then i think is weird!

[ELP]

The girls are! And the boys are :) So David does kinda fit, its just so?? Dave isn't it lol:)

We have a show in the Uk called ' The Royle family' and the mum has baby David, it just reminds me of that:oops:

Just removed names so no family member ever finds us off of some random search;)

[littlemisswilko]

yeh im from the uk too so know exactly what you mean about the royal family and 'baby david'
The name does fit quite perfectly into your gang but you never know your dh may change his mind! x

[ELP]

I can hope lol!!

[littlemisswilko]

;)

[3Pink1Blue]

Wow elp, you guys split the baby naming?! Well I guess we have too, each girl has ended up with the name I really wanted and this one got DH's second choice name. His first choice was Benjamin but I had a teacher who used to call a kid in my class Ben-jammin' so now it really annoys me lol He also really liked William Robert but then the poor little guy would be Billy Bob and would be teased, not by other kids but by dh's jack ass brother. I say offer up suggestions and see if he changes his mind lol

[Tink18]

Hi all I go to the doc tomorrow for my first app! I am sooooo flippin excited! I just want to make sure everything is ok with my little nugget. I am a bit nervous as when we went for Ava's first app we had a roller coaster of things happen so i am hoping to go in with a good result.

I have been having he craziest dreams. About baby boys, twins, triplets and Lots of ex boyfriend sex. GOOD GOD, I am a dirty little slut in my dreams. My dreams have beeenn so crazy!

Other then that I am still feeling barfy. The joy of pregnancy! But it is soo worth it. I will post some pics from my cousins wedding...I think the last time I will be photographed semi thin!

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- yay for your appt today!! I had dreams of twins when I was preg w/dd3, scared the crap out of me! I'm a filthy whore in my dreams too, I'll ditch my family for any foxy guy lol sorry you're barfy but I always found it strangely comforting, still sick still preg kwim?

[Tink18]

Our first went amazing. Heard out little nuggets heard beat and saw him/her! It was amazing. I am so in love!! Keith, my Dh recorded a video and I have watched so many times. I cry every time i see that little flicker and hear that noise. I wil upload pics for you soon!

Currently laying with Ava and Keith while they both sleep and I am enjoying my quiet time.

[CapricornAquarius]

Im joining you guys a bit late, hope you dont mind! I swayed blue for 5 months, was driving me mental, especially the putting on weight part, as Ive always been slim and toned.

Anyway its all over now, so I am relieved, now its a waiting game, oh my goodness how am I going to wait another 16 weeks to find out if my blue sway worked :sigh:

[CapricornAquarius]

Our first went amazing. Heard out little nuggets heard beat and saw him/her! It was amazing. I am so in love!! Keith, my Dh recorded a video and I have watched so many times. I cry every time i see that little flicker and hear that noise. I wil upload pics for you soon!

Currently laying with Ava and Keith while they both sleep and I am enjoying my quiet time.

Aww how beautiful, I cant wait to see my little bean.

[babydes56]

Tink, that's too cute! It makes it all so real when you have the scan. How are you feeling, any nausea?

CA, welcome! Did you write your sway? I'll have a look

[Tink18]

I am feeling pretty crappy, We were in the car last night and I got a wave of nausea, I said "babe do you mind if i puke in your hat" haha....he pulled over really quick so I could throw up. I feel worse at night and sooooo tired when I get up. I went to bed and slept 10 hours and woke up feeling so groggy. Although all this crap is happening..I love it because I know my baby is growing!! I am sure it will end soon and I am hoping to enjoy my pregnancy just as i did with Ava Jean.

[CapricornAquarius]

Tink, that's too cute! It makes it all so real when you have the scan. How are you feeling, any nausea?

CA, welcome! Did you write your sway? I'll have a look
Thank you, no i didnt write my sway. I just pretty much changed my diet 2 an alkaline one, ate more meat then usual, took supps, dtd in our computer room, preseed & used a personalised lunar calendar, so FX.

How about yourself have you written your sway?

[CapricornAquarius]

I am feeling pretty crappy, We were in the car last night and I got a wave of nausea, I said "babe do you mind if i puke in your hat" haha....he pulled over really quick so I could throw up. I feel worse at night and sooooo tired when I get up. I went to bed and slept 10 hours and woke up feeling so groggy. Although all this crap is happening..I love it because I know my baby is growing!! I am sure it will end soon and I am hoping to enjoy my pregnancy just as i did with Ava Jean.

Awww not a good feeling is it, i had nausea with my girls, havent felt nausea with this one yet, i really hope it stays this way.

Hope it doesnt stay around to long for you

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink - awe glad it went so well. Try 50mg of b6 3x a day and maybe switch your prenatal, it can really help with nausea. With dd1 I was sick for 18-20 wks till I found a combo that worked and then within days I felt great :)

CA - Welcome, get a ticker so we can stalk you properly lol

[CapricornAquarius]

Thanks 3p1b, what's a ticker?

[3Pink1Blue]

The baby progress bars in the signature. There's tons out there, if you like someone's click on it and you can make your own :)

[CapricornAquarius]

The baby progress bars in the signature. There's tons out there, if you like someone's click on it and you can make your own :)

Oh ok, thanks will do.

[iluvmyman]

OK, I think this is the last thread I need to update to catch all my ladies

Hi ladies. Sorry to be MIA as lots is going on and I just go to bed most nights and hardly turn on the computer at all these days. So I had my U/S today (I'll update this on the graduate threads too).

It's a girl!! :XX:

Found out it's a girl had some crying and shaking of fists then had some retail therapy at the Gymboree and Janie and Jack Outlets for a couple girly outfits. My girlfriend had my other kids which really helped. DH is a wonderful rock about it. I am disappointed and it feels really unfair but there are worse things in life so I'll mourn and move on. I unpacked the drawers from the unused boy clothes of DS2 which was good.

I got a call from my Dr since they found during the u/s I currently have a low lying placenta (placenta previa) which according to my HMO's website this found before 20 weeks in the U/S has a 9 out of 10 chance to correct itself. For DH, this means no intercourse for till my next 28 week U/S (9 weeks from now). That sort of brought crying about a girl into perspective though. Means a lot more work for me to meet DH's needs too. :wink:

Well I'm exhausted as it's been a very emotional day. Good night.

[3Pink1Blue]

Iluv - congrats on the healthy baby girl!!

[CapricornAquarius]

Ilmm, Congratulations on your baby girl, Im sorry you didnt hear boy, but am glad all is well.
Yes retail therapy always works!!

[ELP]

iluv, congratulations on your beautiful baby girl:HH: I hope the pp moves nice and quickly for you:agree:

[iluvmyman]

Thanks you guys! I'm adjusting w/ a little bit of denial but healthy is obviously the most important thing.

[CapricornAquarius]

How's everyone feeling?
Im soooo tired, cant wait to reach second tri, just so this tiredness can go away :sigh:

[3Pink1Blue]

Uh oh CA not even 7 weeks and already begging for the second trimester lol. Don't blame you actually. I'm swimming in the bliss of it myself right now. I'm feeling absolutely fantastic unless I do to much then oh the back and feet ache and I need to lay down. Thursday marks my move into the third trimester so I'll be too big to move in no time lol

[CapricornAquarius]

Yeah I know already begging for 2nd tri!!

This morn was the first day of m/s, Oh my goodness what a dreadful feeling

[3Pink1Blue]

I was so sick w/dd1 I counted own the days till my second tri, joke was on me it lasted for 4 1/2 months.

[CapricornAquarius]

Oh no hope this doesnt last long im glad its come at 7 wks & not right from the start, ive made so many french toast 2day as it makes me feel better.

[TTC5]

Hi all, so the day after DTD the temp died during taking my temp it got up to 36.6 before dying. I decided to just put this in today anyway and FF has put me at 3dpo smack back on O we DTD. I hope this timing is ok!!

[TTC5]

Uh oh CA not even 7 weeks and already begging for the second trimester lol. Don't blame you actually. I'm swimming in the bliss of it myself right now. I'm feeling absolutely fantastic unless I do to much then oh the back and feet ache and I need to lay down. Thursday marks my move into the third trimester so I'll be too big to move in no time lol

OMG 3rd tri already, no way!!!!

[TTC5]

Damn I did it again lol sorry ladies thought this was the chit chat thread

*runs and hides again* LOL

[WashingtonPromise]

CA: I have not had anything more than nausea, but I sure could go for some 2nd tri energy. I just miss the way food use to taste. I have been craving Mexican food for a couple weeks, so DH went and got me some cheese dip and salsa....it just didn't taste the same!!! It was still good, but just not the same :( I am having to force myself to eat most days. Plus, this sinus yuck is hindering my taste too.

3p1b: I can not believe you are almost in your 3rd tri!!! Wow!!! I think it may be time for a new belly pic....side view....not in a Halloween costume :)

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- sounds like perfect timing! FX!

WP- here's the pic I took at 24 wks, I won't be snapping another one till next Thursday (28 wks).
http://img.tapatalk.com/ae17cb1c-56df-5a8f.jpg

[CapricornAquarius]

WP ive woken up 2day with a headache, ive got a pump class this morn (weight class at gym) which I really want to go to, damn!
Im so loving beef goulash, cottage cheese & eggs, oh & ice cold drinks atm. Its so funny how the body craves certain foods, im getting a ltl worried cause if my appetite is big already im going to turn into a heffa!

[CapricornAquarius]

3p1b, my goodness he's gona be a big boy, I think!

[CapricornAquarius]

Damn I did it again lol sorry ladies thought this was the chit chat thread

*runs and hides again* LOL
Not to worry, gl TTC5

[3Pink1Blue]

CA - I had the same heifer fear lol my appetite was HUGE in the first trimester yet somehow I lost 12lbs. My capacity is much lower these days and I've only gained about 10 lbs all of that between 16wks and now.
I would love a big baby! My biggest so far was 7lbs 4oz at a week late, doubt she would have hit 7 otherwise. I'm 5'8 and the belly was huge so this surprised us all lol

[CapricornAquarius]

3p1b, i'd say ltl Charlie or shall I say big Charlie is probably going to beat his sister in the size.

Im just hoping by going to the gym I will be burning some of my high fat food desires, apart from cootage cheese, atleast that's low in fat.
Although I am taking it real easy at the gym.

[CapricornAquarius]

Oops is that how you spell heifer!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

I really hope he does, my first two came home in preemie clothes. My third should have but she was too tall, 7lbs 3 oz and 21 inches long. I hate them being so tiny but I do like the small heads :bigsmile:

I'm a crap speller, my iPads autocorrect says that's how you spell it lol

[begonia]

Be careful what you wish for ... DD2 was over 9 and pushing her out was a ^%$#! compared to DD1 at 7.13! I'm praying this one isn't as big but I think she's going to be. I already feel her all over the place, and I remember the same with DD2 ... I knew she was going to be big. I could feel her bigness inside, LOL.

Hugs to all the gals feeling m/s. That's so rotten :( I only had it with DD1 but still remember how dreadful it is!

[CapricornAquarius]

My 1st was, 6 pound 8 & my 2nd was 8 pound 1, im hoping this one will not be bigger then my last.

Thanks begonia m/s is a dreadful feeling, although didnt get it 2day, but yesterday i had it all day grrr