July 2WW

[twointow83]

They literally feel just like AF. Right across the middle of my uterus. Occasional right side ovary pain still, but what stands out more is the AF like cramps. I don't feel too positive about it; I've heard from several ladies that it's pretty typical of Clomid. Boo!


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Boo indeed... but I am still holding out hope for you!:fx:

[SweetLily]

I get every symptom in the book from progesterone but clomid and femera never casued cramping for me. Maybe I just didn't notice cause the progesterone causes me cramping!

[momamia4]

Welcome, sweetlily!!

Taytum, this is my first cycle with clomid, so I don't have any advice. Sorry!! I have just been having twinges on one side or the other and consistent nausea.

Two, thank you for being so thorough. I am not used to temping, so I feel like a little kid when it comes to them, lol! I am a bit more confident for tomorrow though, based on your explanation. We'll see what happens with my hpt tomorrow. I'm using the same cheapie brand from Walmart as yesterday. FX!!

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[Pbn3]

Twointoe thank you for the excellent directions! Have followed and hopefully attached the right one lol
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[twointow83]

Welcome, sweetlily!!

Taytum, this is my first cycle with clomid, so I don't have any advice. Sorry!! I have just been having twinges on one side or the other and consistent nausea.

Two, thank you for being so thorough. I am not used to temping, so I feel like a little kid when it comes to them, lol! I am a bit more confident for tomorrow though, based on your explanation. We'll see what happens with my hpt tomorrow. I'm using the same cheapie brand from Walmart as yesterday. FX!!

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YW! I don't claim to be an expert, but I have been charting a long time and learned a lot in that time. The learning curve can be steep at first and somethings you can only learn for yourself, like your norms, what things feel like, look like etc. Others can guide you but in the end it is up to you to learn. However, any time I can possibly make it even a little bit easier on someone just learning I try to because I wish I had had someone to walk me through it all at first. It would have made the process so much easier. If you ever have questions, feel free to ask. I am happy to help if I can :) Keep us posted! I am eager to hear your update tomorrow!!

[twointow83]

Twointoe thank you for the excellent directions! Have followed and hopefully attached the right one lol
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You are very welcome! Glad I could help! :fingers::fingers: I see a big shift when I stalk it tomorrow! :fingers::fingers:

[twointow83]

Twointoe thank you for the excellent directions! Have followed and hopefully attached the right one lol
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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

yes pbn, but I seriously had my sharp O pains during the afterglow, laying in bed about an HOUR after we BD which is BOY territory! I really want a girl, I have so many boys...

We're sway twins. Glad your here!
Im 39, 4 boys.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I made it through 8dpo with no spotting - that's better than last cycle! Im pinchy/crampy and feels like she's on her way but let's will her to stay gone TWO MORE DAYS! And I'll be so much more relieved for next attempt.


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[twointow83]

[emoji122] Yay!!! *fingers crossed*

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[Pbn3]

So I dont normally experience o pain but as I was expecting to o today I have been paying close attention. I felt for maybe a few minutes some pains from the lh side then about 20mins or so later maybe have longer pains from the rh side. Does this make any sense to anyone? Do you normally only feel pain on one side? I'm hoping I've ovulated or currently am as will be within 16-19 hours since bd!!

[twointow83]

So I dont normally experience o pain but as I was expecting to o today I have been paying close attention. I felt for maybe a few minutes some pains from the lh side then about 20mins or so later maybe have longer pains from the rh side. Does this make any sense to anyone? Do you normally only feel pain on one side? I'm hoping I've ovulated or currently am as will be within 16-19 hours since bd!!

Same happened to me today. Kinda alternating side to side. Especially this evening, so I am thinking I am O'ing like... NOW lol, so I doubt I'll see a shift tomorrow but anything is possible I suppose. Plus OPK is getting lighter.

Over the years Ii have had cycles with pain on both sides. Usually one side dominates, pain wise, but it's not unheard of to feel it on both sides. I always take pain on both sides as a good strong O or maybe follicles that are mature or near mature on both sides. Not necessarily popping two eggs, maybe like, and forgive the gross analogy but it's late and all I can think of at the moment, if you think of your ovaries as skin and the follicles as zits (sorry!) One or more may not be ready yet... doesn't mean it won't hurt if pressure is applied... kinda like that. I don't know honestly... just a couple untested theories :shrug:

[Pbn3]

Hahaha love the description!! At least its night where you are and you'll have an answer soon!! Only 3pm here :( I'm hoping with everything ds2 sleeps through tonight!! Had to discard a temp 3 mornings ago as was up at 2.00am and again at 4.45am so needless to say temp was way out! Twointow I'm so excited for morning to see your temp rise fx fx fx!!! (and mine of course :) )

[twointow83]

Hahaha love the description!! At least its night where you are and you'll have an answer soon!! Only 3pm here :( I'm hoping with everything ds2 sleeps through tonight!! Had to discard a temp 3 mornings ago as was up at 2.00am and again at 4.45am so needless to say temp was way out! Twointow I'm so excited for morning to see your temp rise fx fx fx!!! (and mine of course :) )

I could be wrong but I am not expecting a shift in the morning. It takes several hours for the temp to shift, I think I just O'd or am O'ing now, and I will be taking my temp in about 5 hours... or less if hubby's dozen alarms wake me. It is not uncommon and I've learned to compensate for the difference but generally there isn't much of one. A lot of times if I get woke up I'll take my temp because I can't always get back to sleep. Then, if I manage to get back to sleep, I'll take it again at my normal time and generally the difference is like 1-2 100ths of a degree... in other words barely a difference. YOU, on the other hand, if you're O'ing now you have a pretty good shot at seeing a shift in the morning! I guess we shall see what morning brings for both of us though! thanks for the :fingers: and right back at ya!

[twointow83]

BTW, You are so lucky! So much less time between BD and O! I am already looking at 28 hours since BD... not exactly a ton of time I know but I am fighting the urge to wake DH up and attack him, lol. Feels sooo weird to NOT be BD'ing like bunnies right now! I feel like opportunity is just slipping away and I am just hanging out, doing nothing, lol.

[Pbn3]

Thank you! And I'm hoping so! Just have to see that temp rise and I'll feel way more confident! Well I'm hoping you see your shift even if your only 5 hours off taking! I also think anywhere from 12-36 hours from bd is a fantastic chance! We had someone with a o-2 one attempt that ended with a bfp last month think it was tiffsal?? Hearing you on strange not to be going at it like mad lol I remember 3-4 attempts in four days when ttc both my boys!!

[twointow83]

Thank you! And I'm hoping so! Just have to see that temp rise and I'll feel way more confident! Well I'm hoping you see your shift even if your only 5 hours off taking! I also think anywhere from 12-36 hours from bd is a fantastic chance! We had someone with a o-2 one attempt that ended with a bfp last month think it was tiffsal?? Hearing you on strange not to be going at it like mad lol I remember 3-4 attempts in four days when ttc both my boys!!

I can't say how many attempts we had with my first. We were NTNP and the relationship was still new enough that we were the proverbial bunnies lol. With my second, we were actually technically on a TTC break because I had to take a cycle off of clomid and didn't expect to O so we only had 2 attempts (one on O-1 and one on O-3). With my third, I had a lot going on that cycle so we only had attempts on O, O-2 and O-3. Those were all my boys, and it is funny that the cycles we had the fewest attempts in the fertile window are the ones we conceived in(in other TTC cycles we have sometimes as many as 8 attempts in the fertile window and got BFNs), again except for my first possibly because I didn't chart and I don't remember. With my 4th preg, our DD, we weren't trying and semi-preventing. I thought I waited long enough for egg to be gone but we knew we were planning to TTC soon so we didn't wait the usual 3 days after temperature shift... it was more like 36'ish hours after first +OPK, after my CM and CP started to shift back to infertile, but before temp shift (oops, lol) but we caught the egg that night... either that or we got preg off a 5 day old deposit, lol. The fact that our one and only DD came from 1 attempt... without swaying no less, is the only thing keeping me from caving into instinct, lol.

[Junie]

I hope you both see temp rises today twointow and Pbn3!! I had a big temp drop today so hopefully my temps start slowly rising and I ovulate in the coming week. OPKs are still negative but I know that can change quickly.

[twointow83]

*fingers crossed*for you Junie!

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[Pbn3]

Hi Junie I can't believe I may o 2 days early!! It's just after 6pm and I don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight lol! Everything was so much more laid back and relaxed this time and if I see that spike I'm really going to feel like I nailed it and could'nt have timed better! Can I ask what opks you're using? Only because I used the cb dual after distastrous experiences with the strip kind! I can't believe the positives I see on the strips posted here I never seen anything close to what I've seen hence the change to digital which have been awesome for me. I hope you get your pos opk sooner than later and a dip in temp is a great sign that its coming in my experience anyway!!!

[Pbn3]

Twointow go to sleep lol!! :)

[twointow83]

Lol. I did.[emoji1] Hubbys alarms work me up [emoji19]

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[True Blue]

I couldn't sleep last night I was dreaming of every HPT and in my dream I was peeing on them all but was unable to decipher the results I was even trying to post pics here (in my dream) so at 4:30am I found myself trying one of my FRER but it was stark white negative. 7dpo. Still hopeful for Thursday.

[twointow83]

I couldn't sleep last night I was dreaming of every HPT and in my dream I was peeing on them all but was unable to decipher the results I was even trying to post pics here (in my dream) so at 4:30am I found myself trying one of my FRER but it was stark white negative. 7dpo. Still hopeful for Thursday.
Lol gotta love those dreams! Psst... vivid dreams can be a preg sign [emoji122] *fingers crossed*

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[Pbn3]

True 7dpo is wwaaayy too early. Read nothing into it :). I know its hard to wait but if you've got the tests to throw away as such I'd keep going from tomorrow onwards. Otherwise maybe compromise for every 2 days here on in :)

[covered in blue]

Dreams are a good sign true :). I've been having vivid dreams for the past week or so which I hardly ever do. In one of them I went for my 20week scan and was told boy again! FXed that dream was meant for you lol. Also waking up hot and sweaty.

[True Blue]

I'm worried I'm getting a little obsessed because I'm not sleeping the last couple of nights.
Thanks mommas :hugs:

[twointow83]

Hi Junie I can't believe I may o 2 days early!! It's just after 6pm and I don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight lol! Everything was so much more laid back and relaxed this time and if I see that spike I'm really going to feel like I nailed it and could'nt have timed better! Can I ask what opks you're using? Only because I used the cb dual after distastrous experiences with the strip kind! I can't believe the positives I see on the strips posted here I never seen anything close to what I've seen hence the change to digital which have been awesome for me. I hope you get your pos opk sooner than later and a dip in temp is a great sign that its coming in my experience anyway!!!

Keep in mind, several of us on here(this thread), particularly of those posting OPK pics are taking clomid. On a normal month my test line doesn't get near as dark as it did this time! What brand of the strips did you use?

[twointow83]

I'm worried I'm getting a little obsessed because I'm not sleeping the last couple of nights.
Thanks mommas :hugs:

:bighug: you are in good company lol, but I never sleep well unfortunately. Good for my sway, very bad for reality lol.

[Pbn3]

Twointow they were from a family/fertility Australian website. Over a period of 3 months I had only one positive out of 49 tests... by third month I was testing 3 x daily

[twointow83]

Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggety dog.... :holysheep::running: Go!:pinksperm:, go!! :noaf:

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[Pbn3]

omg omg woohoo!!!! Thats an absolutely beautiful site Twointow!!!!!! Nailed it!! So very happy for you and what an exciting/nervous 2ww you have ahead of you!

[twointow83]

omg omg woohoo!!!! Thats an absolutely beautiful site Twointow!!!!!! Nailed it!! So very happy for you and what an exciting/nervous 2ww you have ahead of you!

As long as it doesn't last as long as the first part of my cycle, I think I am good :rofl: Maybe... ;) Hahaha, j/k...
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It needs to be morning there already, lol. I am eagerly awaiting your temp!!

[Pbn3]

Me too lol!!! it's quarter past eight and I'm like surely its almost time for sleep lol. To excited especially after seeing yours!

[Magical22]

Good luck ladies!!!!


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[twointow83]

Me too lol!!! it's quarter past eight and I'm like surely its almost time for sleep lol. To excited especially after seeing yours!

What time do you get up and input your temp usually?

[Pbn3]

between 5.30 and 6.30am try and hold out till closest to 6 either side but if ds2 wakes during the night I'll be sure to take a just in case temp fx he sleeps thru like last 2 nights!

[twointow83]

between 5.30 and 6.30am try and hold out till closest to 6 either side but if ds2 wakes during the night I'll be sure to take a just in case temp fx he sleeps thru like last 2 nights!

I am trying to figure out the time difference so I know when to stalk but #s aren't my strong suit lol. If it is 8'ish pm there and 6'ish am here... that is what? A 10 hour difference?? So 6:30 your time would be like 4:30 my time?? Like I said... numbers aren't my thing lol.

:fx: that you get a good nights sleep, at least one of us should lol! I temped after only a couple hours sleep then couldn't get back to sleep... this is gonna be a LONG day! I want to lay back down and try to get some more sleep but my youngest will be waking up in 30 mins or so :/ Wouldn't be the first time I have muddled through on 2 hours sleep, won't be the last lol. Gotta love insomnia!

[Pbn3]

hope you get some rest two! and yes your numbers (times) sound right to me. I always put my temps in as soon as taken. I'll also post a screenshot in here as well after the usual morning duties are taken care of lol

[twointow83]

hope you get some rest two! and yes your numbers (times) sound right to me. I always put my temps in as soon as taken. I'll also post a screenshot in here as well after the usual morning duties are taken care of lol

I doubt it. On a normal day I could have them take a nap and nap too, but today I have an appt right at nap time. Boo!

Australia and I are gonna have to chat ;) I am too impatient to wait 10 hours :giggle: :drama: BUT I'll deal cause hopefully you get a good nights :sleeping: and I will be cheering on the :pinksperm: for both of us ;) That kinda sounds a little creepy, now that I think about it :rofl: Wonder what your SO would think of a complete stranger cheering on his :pinksperm: :rofl:

[Pbn3]

bahahaha I kinda tell him some of the things I say/admit on here and he's just like wtf??? lol men what would they known or understand in the world of ttc :) :) thanks for the pinksperm hahaha amd right back atcha!!!

[twointow83]

bahahaha I kinda tell him some of the things I say/admit on here and he's just like wtf??? lol men what would they known or understand in the world of ttc :) :) thanks for the pinksperm hahaha amd right back atcha!!!

LMBO! My hubby is so used to it that he barely flinches at this point lol. I have been on one message board or another for years like my infertility board (and ppl share dang near everything TMI related on those boards, lol). So, as long as I maintain some anonymity, he doesn't even react anymore lol. And thanks for the :pinksperm: :D If willing them to get the deed done, while simultaneously willing the :bluesperm: to chill and have a spa day or something worked I think we'd have it in the bag ;)

[momamia4]

Well, my hpt was negative again today and my temp dropped a bit. Not below the coverline or anything but a bit. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/cbdcefb458348cfbac9c484dc69e3108.jpg

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[twointow83]

Well, my hpt was negative again today and my temp dropped a bit. Not below the coverline or anything but a bit. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/cbdcefb458348cfbac9c484dc69e3108.jpg

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Still not concerned ;) and my :fingers: still!

[TaytumJ]

Pbn3: Can't wait to stalk your temp tomorrow!! I really hope you get that temp spike! FX!

Momamia: Not out yet! Hoping to see a big ole jump tomorrow! [emoji4]

Two: YAY!!! [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] Temp!!! Come on pink!! [emoji177][emoji177]

I slept so hard last night. Woke up 5-10mins before alarm to temp was going off and realized I was mouth breathing. [emoji30][emoji35] But, kept my mouth shut and still temped at regular time. It was just a small jump down, so who knows; yesterday's temp was off as well.


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[twointow83]

Pbn3: Can't wait to stalk your temp tomorrow!! I really hope you get that temp spike! FX!

Momamia: Not out yet! Hoping to see a big ole jump tomorrow! [emoji4]

Two: YAY!!! [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] Temp!!! Come on pink!! [emoji177][emoji177]

I slept so hard last night. Woke up 5-10mins before alarm to temp was going off and realized I was mouth breathing. [emoji30][emoji35] But, kept my mouth shut and still temped at regular time. It was just a small jump down, so who knows; yesterday's temp was off as well.


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I always hated that! And it never failed that I'd get a cold at what was possibly about to be, or was a crucial moment, lol. :fx: still!

[TaytumJ]

Haha yes!! My nose is stuffy today! Not stuffy enough that I can't breathe - I think I was just sleeping SO hard that that's what happened.

Really trying hard not to symptom spot since Clomid gives so many symptoms as well.


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[YayBaby678]

Welcome sweetlily!

Two - Woo hoo for the temp spike! FX for your BFP!! Looks like you had great timing. And I know what you mean about feeling like time was passing during my fertile window and I couldn't do ANYTHING because we're stuck to the E4D plan. I kept thinking, maybe one extra time will get us that BFP. If months continue to pass, I know I will end up giving in.

XX - Glad you are happy about your newest boy! I do love my little guy and after hanging with a sassy little girl this weekend, I started to wonder if maybe being a mom of only boys would be better :D

momamia - you're not out yet!

FX to the rest of us waiting to O or test!

[Laurenk1424]

9DPO and I feel like I have a bad head cold. Super stuffy nose and dry throat. Ugh.


Is this a thing? Progesterone?

[YayBaby678]

9DPO and I feel like I have a bad head cold. Super stuffy nose and dry throat. Ugh.


Is this a thing? Progesterone?

I think stuffy nose is a sign of pregnancy! And is your throat dry because you're thirsty? Thirst was one of my earliest pregnancy symptoms with my DS. When do you plan to test?

[YayBaby678]

Anyone else 6DPO? Just wondering if I have a cycle buddy :)

[Laurenk1424]

Super thirsty for sure but the throat is like mucus is stuck. Idk. Gross lol. Super stuffy tho.... Like big time.
I jumped the gun and tested yesterday lol negative of course so I'm gonna wait until the full 14dpo on Sunday. For sure then it would be correct right??


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[momamia4]

It should be Lauren.

I am starving you guys. Like I could seriously eat my left foot. Also, (fx) I am not breaking out right now which I normally do at this point before AF. It's so hard not to symptom spot!!! I just keep telling myself that everything is because of the clomid. :sigh: I am out of Walmart cheapies now so I'm going to wait until Thursday to test again like I promised DH. If I don't start spotting tomorrow, I'll have an idea though. I usually start spotting a few days before AF. Honestly, the fact that I haven't started spotting already is kind of getting my hopes up. I started spotting on 11dpo the last 4 cycles. :fx:

[True Blue]

Yaybaby I am 7dpo :)

[YayBaby678]

It's definitely still early Lauren! And I would definitely think by 14DPO you would know for sure.

Momamia - Those all sound like good signs!

Yay True! I do remember last month our cycles were on similar timing :)

[TaytumJ]

Lauren - I'll be 14dpo Sunday too! Cycle buddy! [emoji4]

Momamia: I know what you mean about all of the Clomid symptoms. I googled some stuff yesterday and it seemed so promising until I put Clomid in with it...then it was just normal. [emoji17] Hoping your no spotting is a great sign!

I don't have any AF cramps today so that's good!


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[SweetLily]

We're sway twins. Glad your here!
Im 39, 4 boys.


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I ovulate twice each month in that I release 2 eggs. U/S has verified, so they gave me femera cause its less likely to twin. 3 of my babies (all my boys) were twins that had a vanishing twin (and one was triplets, the last one) so if I ever do get a pregnancy that sticks I will be very happy--2 embies are better than one, better chance of one of them sticking! Some months there are 3, I have noticed this more as I get older. I would love twins, that would be a dream since I am so OLD now (lol) but I couldn't hold them when I was 20 so I don't see how I could at 38! There were def 2 eggs this month, one around midnight and another from the other side around 11 am. So we will see...maybe all my mcs are cause it's always been old sperm/cut offs and now with fresh sperm it could be sticky? IDK...so frustrating.

DH will still kill me if I get a bfp this month! But, it puts an end to the on and off again....!

[SweetLily]

Lol gotta love those dreams! Psst... vivid dreams can be a preg sign [emoji122] *fingers crossed*

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Just not if you are on progesterone! LOL, anyone on the dreaded stuff? It causes EVERY SYMPTOM IN THE BOOK! Sheesh...

[SweetLily]

Question. I am just getting over pneumonia (finished my antibiotics a week ago but still feeling crummy). Do you think that will kill chances?

And moreover, do you think that amoxicillen can damage your eggs? I ovulated later this month than normal--ooh, it was actually day 14 for a change, its usually 11 or 12-- I figured cause I was sick. Maybe my eggs will suck this month?

The fertility clinic said my eggs were crappy 4 months ago so they put me on an egg strengthening regime that I have been on for 4 months, I wonder if it worked yet?

[Junie]

Sorry apparently my phone screen didn't lock fast enough and one of my boys felt like posting!

[Junie]

WOW! I wonder if that was my younger son playing with my phone???? LOL

[twointow83]

It should be Lauren.

I am starving you guys. Like I could seriously eat my left foot. Also, (fx) I am not breaking out right now which I normally do at this point before AF. It's so hard not to symptom spot!!! I just keep telling myself that everything is because of the clomid. :sigh: I am out of Walmart cheapies now so I'm going to wait until Thursday to test again like I promised DH. If I don't start spotting tomorrow, I'll have an idea though. I usually start spotting a few days before AF. Honestly, the fact that I haven't started spotting already is kind of getting my hopes up. I started spotting on 11dpo the last 4 cycles. :fx:

:fx:

[twointow83]

Tow Google and some milk please and baby bear Google Peas - to the sky and Roberta Couldn't Google invitable

Ok, I know I am sleep deprived... but I am going to assume that one of your kiddos got ahold of your keyboard or phone... Lol

[YayBaby678]

Junie's posts made me lol! Too funny :) I'm guessing twointow is right.

[Junie]

Sweetlily- My Dr. told me that when I went on antibiotics for being sick, my chances for getting pregnant decreased because the body tends to focus on getting you better and doesn't really want you to get pregnant in those circumstances- I don't however think it affects the egg quality. I do think that 4 months would be long enough to see an improvement in egg quality though but I don't know for sure.

[momamia4]

Well, I spoke too soon. I started spotting. I am pretty confident that I'm out this month. :(

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[YayBaby678]

Well, I spoke too soon. I started spotting. I am pretty confident that I'm out this month. :(

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:hugs:

[TaytumJ]

Lol on the posts Junie! That's funny! [emoji12]

You're not out yet, momamia. I've seen plenty of people say they spot, think they're out, then get a BFP!

SweetLily: I'm not on progesterone, but did do Clomid this cycle and that's given me every symptom as well! So frustrating [emoji30]


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[Pbn3]

Morning all. Well had a terrible sleep last night of course. Took my temp early at nearly 5am (was 36.4) as my nose decided to start blocking up. Took temp again at 5.45 and was 36.3 after over half an hour of mouth breathing. So I've used the 5.00am temp hence the clear circle. Now yesterday morning same thing took temp around 5.00am and was 36.1 and then again just b4 6am and was 36.2 so originally I used the 6am temp to keep circles solid but have it back now to the 5am one. Should you always go with your first temp? I tried to using the closest to 6am temps but sometimes thats meant I've been rolling around in bed, on my phone etc for up to an hour. If I don't use the 5am temps from yesterday and today my chart only shows a 0.1 degree temp rise. But if I should use the temps closer to 6 I'll change it. What do you think two? Use the times to keep circles solid or stick with first temps taken even though they were taken earlier?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/cd2421e5208057640a1fd1820b2e9d69.jpg

[momamia4]

I scheduled an appt with my RE for tomorrow at 11:45am. I'm assuming he's going to do blood work and give me another Rx for clomid. He told me last month that he was going to be increasing it this next month, so we'll see if he actually sticks with that. Hopefully I'll know in a day or two what's going on.

[XXforhubby]

I would use the first ones, tbh. I think a solid sleep is more important. Although I personally found my temps did not change for up to an hour after waking and getting my kiddos breakfast and me some coffee. I temped vaginally and I think my body needed to be up for a while before getting higher.


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[Pbn3]

Thanks xxforhubby! I'll start using first temps taken I normally temp from 5.30 - 6.30am which keeps the circles solid however there has been a few mornings like the last two that were taken at 5 :)

[Pbn3]

I scheduled an appt with my RE for tomorrow at 11:45am. I'm assuming he's going to do blood work and give me another Rx for clomid. He told me last month that he was going to be increasing it this next month, so we'll see if he actually sticks with that. Hopefully I'll know in a day or two what's going on.
Momamia sorry to hear your spotting and I hope you get some answers tomorrow

[XXforhubby]

FX for you this cycle. I have good feelings about this one [emoji8][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]


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[Pbn3]

FX for you this cycle. I have good feelings about this one [emoji8][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]


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Thanks xxforhubby! I'm abit bummed about temping time issues but if they stay above coverline over next few days that'll make it all better lol! Love you signature btw!!!

[TaytumJ]

I used to be so paranoid about EXACT time temping. I was convinced it was way off if it wasn't at exactly 5:30. Then I figured out its not much of a difference for me (everyone is different.) it's still frustrating though - I completely understand!

I keep trying to decide if I should test tomorrow FRER 10dpo. I just don't feel that confident this month with a BFP...


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[Pbn3]

I'm abit the same with temping taytum I really wanted it ro be super accurate lol oh well! I would be totally testing at 10dpo!! I hope you see a bfp when you do decide to test! There's quite a few of you coming up for testing next few days its so exciting!

[Pbn3]

So I'd thought I'd do opk test again this morning as my solid smiley on screen from 2 mornings ago was gone. Used smu straight after a coffee so didn't look diluted and the result was 'not fertile' This has definately put my mind at ease and I feeling way more positive and believe I absolutely oed yesterday :) :)

[Magical22]

Well I'm out this month [emoji17]

Will have the next few months off trying going to have a break, have to go get a lap procedure done and think about if I want to go HT. the way I'm going I have already done most of the pre testing anyway.

Good luck ladies [emoji166]


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[Pbn3]

Hugs Magical :( I'm glad you're having a think about ht if I had any chance at going that way I would and if you've already done most pre testing then... whatever you decide I'll keep an eye out for future posts. All the best!

[momamia4]

Sorry magical!!! Hugs!!!

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[twointow83]

Well, I spoke too soon. I started spotting. I am pretty confident that I'm out this month. :(

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No! Dang it!! Thing were looking so good for you!! Have you ever spotted around test time before and been preg? Some ppl do, so I was just wondering. :bighug::noaf:

[Laurenk1424]

At 10dpo would a FRER be accurate with FMU? .... Or should I just wait until 14dpo. I need to stop w all the false testing lol.


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[momamia4]

Lauren, the problem with testing at 10dpo is that you might have just implanted so the hcg wouldn't be enough to show up on a test.

Yes, two. I have spotted and still been pregnant but I am having a lot of cramps. I won't be surprised if af is in full swing tomorrow. :/

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[True Blue]

I would be confident with a FRER at 10dpo for sure :)
It's not 100% but much much much better than 7/8/9 dpo !!

[True Blue]

I'm sorry momamia & magical :( it totally bums :(

[Boyboygirl]

Sorry to hear Magical and Momamia :(.

So I have a bit of a dilemma and could use some opinions. I'm supposed to be ovulating this weekend so DH and I just had sex for fun this past Sunday (unprotected) as I figured it was far enough away to affect our one attempt near o. Well it's looking like I'm going to ovulate early! I've been getting a lot of watery cm the last 3 days and My opk was an almost positive line this morning so I suspect a positive one by tonight or tomorrow morning..
I did use RePhresh on Monday in case that would help my cause lol.
So question is: if I get a positive opk tonight or tomorrow.. Should I bd tomorrow night as my one attempt or is that too risky sway wise and in that case just hope our non attempt on Sunday was good enough?
If I should attempt at positive opk - should I use an antihistamine or jump and dump?
When I say "should I" I mean, what would you do lol ;)
Thanks in advance for any feedback!

[twointow83]

Morning all. Well had a terrible sleep last night of course. Took my temp early at nearly 5am (was 36.4) as my nose decided to start blocking up. Took temp again at 5.45 and was 36.3 after over half an hour of mouth breathing. So I've used the 5.00am temp hence the clear circle. Now yesterday morning same thing took temp around 5.00am and was 36.1 and then again just b4 6am and was 36.2 so originally I used the 6am temp to keep circles solid but have it back now to the 5am one. Should you always go with your first temp? I tried to using the closest to 6am temps but sometimes thats meant I've been rolling around in bed, on my phone etc for up to an hour. If I don't use the 5am temps from yesterday and today my chart only shows a 0.1 degree temp rise. But if I should use the temps closer to 6 I'll change it. What do you think two? Use the times to keep circles solid or stick with first temps taken even though they were taken earlier?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/cd2421e5208057640a1fd1820b2e9d69.jpg

The answer to that is dependant on the situation. You always want to use the one closer to your normal temp time if you can... here comes the BIG BUT ;) Over and above the temp closest to time, you want to use the most accurate (just waking, not moving around, etc.).

Here is a scenario for you. If you have 2 temps and say one is at 3 am and one is at 6 am. You took your temp at both times. The 3 am one was taken upon just waking, preferably after 3 hours of sleep but I personally have not found that less sleep necessarily disturbs a temp... up to a point that is, it maybe knocks it off by a couple 100ths of a degree but it is the 10ths of a degree that make a big impact. Your 6 am temp is your normal temp time, but you either couldn't get back to sleep or you weren't asleep very long at all... and maybe your mouth was open to aggravate matters even worse. In this scenario, the 3 am temps if over an above the most accurate of the 2.

Scenario #2: Lets use the same times and same info for the 3 am temp but this time you take your second temp at 6 or much closer to 6. This time you were able to get back to sleep pretty quick, and to throw a kink in the chain then lets say your mouth was open. This one is tricky, because of the mouth being open BUT I would likely still trust the 6 am temp.

In either case always make note of both temps for later reference. So, all that explained, in your case... I agree with using the 5 am temp in both cases. 45-60 mins just isn't long enough span of sleep.... esp if your mouth was open for the second temp.

There is a method. I don't generally use it because, for me, it only makes my chart more confusing, not less and I have sleep issues so nearly every temp I take is affected by either not enough sleep, like this morning, waking too early or too late, etc. I'll explain it but I'll do so AFTER cautioning you to consider the impact on your chart. Personally I'd rather disturb a temp than adjust it but that is a decision you'll have to make for yourself. The author of Taking Charge of Your Fertility (i.e. the #1 book detailing the mechanics, process, rules, etc. associated with charting) has a method of temp adjustment. Essentially it involves adjusting your temp (there is a link to do this if you don't want to figure it out for yourself on FF under the "data" tab at the top) by so much based on how off the temp was taken time wise. According to this method you can adjust a temp taken up to 2 hours from your usual temp time. To do this you would either add or subtract 0.1 degrees (add if taken too early, subtract if taken too late) for every 1/2 hour of time discrepancy. I am used to Fahrenheit so I'll use that for my examples... If your normal temp time is 6 o'clock and you took your temp at 5 am and it was 97.73 you would add 0.2 degrees making your new temp 97.93 (as you can see this makes a HUGE impact... which is why I am not a fan of it). If your temp was taken at 7 am and is 97.84 you would subtract 0.2 making your new temp 97.64. Again, it is up to you, but I strongly caution you.

Do you remember what the situation was that made CD 6 a clear circle?

[twointow83]

Well I'm out this month [emoji17]

Will have the next few months off trying going to have a break, have to go get a lap procedure done and think about if I want to go HT. the way I'm going I have already done most of the pre testing anyway.

Good luck ladies [emoji166]


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:hug2: I'm sorry Magical!

[twointow83]

At 10dpo would a FRER be accurate with FMU? .... Or should I just wait until 14dpo. I need to stop w all the false testing lol.


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Personally I have always started testing at 10 DPO.. or sooner, lol, and often gotten a + then (shorter LP... might make a difference). BUT I am a POAS addict and a bit of a POAS pusher, lol ;) If you have cheapy tests or lots of tests I day go for 10 DPO but I know those FRER boogers can add up quick so if you only have a few I'd probably wait until at least 11 DPO just to give your body a little extra time for the HCG to rise.

[Laurenk1424]

I'm gonna wait haha it's so hard though!! My cycles have been LONG since starting the SP & Vitex, so I'm thinking I Prob need to wait until atleast 14 days.


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[twointow83]

Lauren, the problem with testing at 10dpo is that you might have just implanted so the hcg wouldn't be enough to show up on a test.

Yes, two. I have spotted and still been pregnant but I am having a lot of cramps. I won't be surprised if af is in full swing tomorrow. :/

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Thanks for answering that question.. I forgot to throw in that tid-bit lol ;)

If that is the case then I'll keep my :fingers: for you!

[twointow83]

Sorry to hear Magical and Momamia :(.

So I have a bit of a dilemma and could use some opinions. I'm supposed to be ovulating this weekend so DH and I just had sex for fun this past Sunday (unprotected) as I figured it was far enough away to affect our one attempt near o. Well it's looking like I'm going to ovulate early! I've been getting a lot of watery cm the last 3 days and My opk was an almost positive line this morning so I suspect a positive one by tonight or tomorrow morning..
I did use RePhresh on Monday in case that would help my cause lol.
So question is: if I get a positive opk tonight or tomorrow.. Should I bd tomorrow night as my one attempt or is that too risky sway wise and in that case just hope our non attempt on Sunday was good enough?
If I should attempt at positive opk - should I use an antihistamine or jump and dump?
When I say "should I" I mean, what would you do lol ;)
Thanks in advance for any feedback!

With an unprotected BD that close in time to what could turn to a +OPK I'd likely make a last minute switch to E4D until after O is confirmed. An attempt at +OPK would likely result in 2 attempts in your fertile window. A BD on Sunday would mean you'd be due to BD again on Thursday... so it may not even come to that as you may O before then but it'll cover your bases in case you O later than you expect! I suspect if your OPK isn't + yet that you'll likely need the BD on Thursday to get a solid attempt in. How long do you generally surge before you O? Going off basic math if you get a +opk tonight... Lets just say 9 pm for arguments sake lol. If you O 36 hours later that would put you O'ing (bare with me as I am bad with #s lol) around 9 am Thursday morning. Obviously, a later +OPK would give you more time. I can't advise on the RePhresh as I've been advised against using it so I don't know enough to give you an accurate suggestion.

[Pbn3]

Thanks Twointow! That clear circle taken cd6 was the one late temp I took after 7am from memory. It's very very rare myself or ds2 arent up by 6.30 (usually be 6) so that could explain why its higher than the others all taken earlier

[twointow83]

Thanks Twointow! That clear circle taken cd6 was the one late temp I took after 7am from memory. It's very very rare myself or ds2 arent up by 6.30 (usually be 6) so that could explain why its higher than the others all taken earlier

Ok, here is what I see. Do with it what you will but I'd suggest waiting to see what tomorrow's temp looks like before taking any action. Including the temp for CD 6 puts your CL at 36.5 which means today's temp is below your CL. Ignoring your CD 6 temp puts your CL at 36.4 (this is all assuming what I am seeing includes the changes discussed with the multiple temps *IF* you plan to make them) which puts today's temp which puts today's temp right on the CL. I suspect that your temp was beginning to rise after O but you caught it before it had a chance to make a full shift. I believe tomorrow's temp will likely be high enough that CD 6's temp won't matter.

[Pbn3]

Yeah I was going to see what it looks like by Friday morning :) I was thinking my cover line was 36.25ish???

[twointow83]

Twointow they were from a family/fertility Australian website. Over a period of 3 months I had only one positive out of 49 tests... by third month I was testing 3 x daily

I'd try another brand. Can you buy off ebay over there? Or you can check saveontests.com, I love their tests but they are a bit pricier... not by much but I am a penny pincher lol. Those tests gave me a super faint BFP a 8 DPO!! I couldn't believe it!

[twointow83]

Yeah I was going to see what it looks like by Friday morning :) I was thinking my cover line was 36.25ish???

Does Celsius work differently? Your CD 6 temp is the highest in your last 6 temps at roughly 36.4. 36.4+0.1=36.5 CL. Ignoring your CD 6 temp your highest temp in the last 6 temps is roughly 36.3. 36.3+0.1=36.4 CL... that is unless Celsius works differently in which case I have no clue :giggle:

[Pbn3]

me neither lol I'll just wait and see. Happy to have neg opk this morning so thinking I definately oed :)

[YayBaby678]

Momamia - you're not out yet! Definitely still a good chance you could get that BFP.

So sorry Magical :( Try to enjoy your TTC break (and hopefully relax on the stupid diet!).

Your chart looks good Pbn. I definitely think you O'd. Perfect timing with your one attempt! :) FX!


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[Boysboys]

Ok girls. We just dtd for the last time before our attempt in hopefully 4 days. I inserted reohresh last night before bed. Well after we got some I laid for a few minutes (JUST IN CASE) And when I got up it felt like everything came out and there were white clumps. I'm thinking ab dropping reohresh. I just don't see how anything would make it through clumps??!! What do yall think??

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

9DPO and I feel like I have a bad head cold. Super stuffy nose and dry throat. Ugh.


Is this a thing? Progesterone?

Im 9dpo too :)


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Two that spike is FAB and I love your "pregnant until proven otherwise"!!
Moma - ain't over yet.
Im 9dpo, still no AF! (-hpt though... But whatevs) im just stoked im making it to 10dpo :) guess last cycle a fluke or with the Clomid issue... Either way. I feelin coming, and this time I have wicked nasty pinchy feeling in my cervix. Ain't cool at all!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Your chart looks GREAT, Hitme! I almost tested this am at 8dpo too but then I told myself I was crazy. I'm holding out until Wednesday at 10dpo or Thursday with a FRER. So test with me then! [emoji12]


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It's a date! If Af holds out that long I'll poas again! Haha!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Sorry for the multiple posts - I really cannot process multiple things at once right now. Lol sooo drained. Here is my chart if anyone wants a looky http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/14/aed9cfe03340a71004b0b4940136cd23.jpg


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[twointow83]

Ok girls. We just dtd for the last time before our attempt in hopefully 4 days. I inserted reohresh last night before bed. Well after we got some I laid for a few minutes (JUST IN CASE) And when I got up it felt like everything came out and there were white clumps. I'm thinking ab dropping reohresh. I just don't see how anything would make it through clumps??!! What do yall think??

I see all the time others saying to drop the Rephresh and stuff first b4 changing other things. I am ignorant of the topic, I admit, but I never did understand how it'd work. Making things less hostile... ok I can get my head around that but that just seems like it'd kill everything... unless of course you are a teen girl who thinks douching is a form of BC... that'll get you preg then :giggle: ;) If it were me and you are seeing issues already, and if you have a solid sway going otherwise then I'd say drop it... but again, I know about as much about nuclear science as I do about rephresh and swaying lol. So take my advice with a grain of salt.

[twointow83]

Two that spike is FAB and I love your "pregnant until proven otherwise"!!
Moma - ain't over yet.
Im 9dpo, still no AF! (-hpt though... But whatevs) im just stoked im making it to 10dpo :) guess last cycle a fluke or with the Clomid issue... Either way. I feelin coming, and this time I have wicked nasty pinchy feeling in my cervix. Ain't cool at all!


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*Happy Dance* Yay!!! :fx: for a BFP!

[momamia4]

Yay, hitme!!! So happy for your longer lp! :cheerteam:

Well, my spotting stopped but it did that last cycle too. I am still crampy but not as much as earlier today. It'll be interesting to see what the next few days hold.

[ImmiNAddi]

Hitme - your chart looks like my bfp chart so far! Fingers crossed :)

[twointow83]

I got a smile out of this and thought I'd share. WAY too many of these are things I do all too often, lol! Can't say that DH knows what an infertile cervix feels like though... then again maybe he does since it's kinda located in his favorite territory, lol.

You know you're TTC when... (http://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-to-conceive/189083-you-know-youre-ttc.html)

[twointow83]

Yay, hitme!!! So happy for your longer lp! :cheerteam:

Well, my spotting stopped but it did that last cycle too. I am still crampy but not as much as earlier today. It'll be interesting to see what the next few days hold.

Everything is crossed for you here :bigsmile: Looking forward to your morning update!

[Pbn3]

I got a smile out of this and thought I'd share. WAY too many of these are things I do all too often, lol! Can't say that DH knows what an infertile cervix feels like though... then again maybe he does since it's kinda located in his favorite territory, lol.

You know you're TTC when... (http://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-to-conceive/189083-you-know-youre-ttc.html)
I laughed out loud at so many of these! Love the don't know what day of the month it is on cd or dpo!!

[True Blue]

Oh my oh my oh my . . .

I'm shaking ~ 8dpo ~ please tell I'm not crazy?!?!

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It has dried much clearer in RL more a line than a squinter - oh mommas I'm so excited & terrified all mixed into one!!

[Pbn3]

I see a line True!!!!! So so happy for you!! Huge congratulations!!!

[covered in blue]

OMG true that is totally a line! I knew that blue baby dust was pretty good stuff lol :). Congrats xx

[Junie]

Congrats true blue!!!!!

[Junie]

I just started using the digital OPKs yesterday and got a circle... Look what I got this morning (It was a flashing smiley face the picture was huge and I took it down)! Sorry that picture was huge! I'm normally on my phone and then I pop on the PC and see a crazy big digital smiley face LOL. I'm going to confirm with a cheapie OPK this afternoon. So exciting! We'll BD tonight for sure and then wait for the solid smiley and BD again :)

[Pbn3]

Yay Junie!!! I'd definately bd tonight! I felt so confident using the digitals was absolutely spot on last cycle (which I messed up) so hoping for same this cycle. I'll be hanging out to see your chart in two mornings time!! Are you charting? Probably shouldve asked that first lol

[True Blue]

Thank You Pbn xx I'm up since silly o'clock trying to let it sink in !!

I wish I could get a clearer picture but the camera just can't get the second line as clear as my eye so I feel a little crazy :D

[True Blue]

Oops another page, thank you covered :kiss:

Thank you Junie and yes BD tonight I found the digitals to be spot on :agree: Good Luck :cheer:

[Pbn3]

Junie I was using the cb dual which went from whole circle to flashing smiley then solid smiley. I know there's another cb digital that displays whole circle and solid smiley but I imagine they mean the exact same thing. Bd the day/night of solid smiley :) When are you using testing strip as confirmation.? Have they worked well for you in the past?

[Pbn3]

Thank You Pbn xx I'm up since silly o'clock trying to let it sink in !!

I wish I could get a clearer picture but the camera just can't get the second line as clear as my eye so I feel a little crazy :D
True I can see it easy in your photo! And when you zoom in on pic it really stands out! Have you got any more hpts? If so post us another pic tomorrow! So excited for you! I yelled out to my husband when I seen your post "there's another July positive!!" and yes he had to ask if I was talking about my 'forum baby thingy' as he calls it lol

[True Blue]

True I can see it easy in your photo! And when you zoom in on pic it really stands out! Have you got any more hpts? If so post us another pic tomorrow! So excited for you! I yelled out to my husband when I seen your post "there's another July positive!!" and yes he had to ask if I was talking about my 'forum baby thingy' as he calls it lol

:giggle: I do the same with my DH !!

I will test again tomorrow at 9dpo & the next morning. I'm praying please please that all will be ok. I know it's so early :pray:

[Junie]

Junie I was using the cb dual which went from whole circle to flashing smiley then solid smiley. I know there's another cb digital that displays whole circle and solid smiley but I imagine they mean the exact same thing. Bd the day/night of solid smiley :) When are you using testing strip as confirmation.? Have they worked well for you in the past?

Pbn3- This is my first cycle using the digitals. It was a flashing smiley but I'm OK doing more attempts so I'll definitely do one today, and then wait for a solid smiley. I'm going to test with my cheapie OPKs now as well because I trust them and know when they are really really dark that I am ovulating.

[Pbn3]

Are you swaying for boy Junie? Only asking as multiple attempts. I thought for some reason you were swaying girl? I'm sorry if we've gone over this b4 there's just so many of us atm lol. I had flashing smileys for three days b4 solid last cycle and for 2 days this cycle b4 solid. Glad you can rely on your strips as well :) Be interesting to see how well they coincide with digitals :)
oh btw your photo you took off wasn't huge at all on tapatalk was just a normal size? Must look different on desktops lol

[ImmiNAddi]

No need to check that line True - it's a BFP!!! Congrats :)

[TaytumJ]

True: Big congrats!! I hope it's a little blue eggie in there!! [emoji170][emoji92][emoji170]

Junie: Yay for ovulation!! That's probably my second favorite thing (besides a BFP [emoji6])


Big temp drop this am. [emoji17] Mostly bummed because my LP is usually 8/9ish days and I was hoping Clomid would push it up to at least 12. At least I didn't waste any FRERs!


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[XXforhubby]

OMG True! Huge congrats! Here is my blue baby dust- sorry girls it's A LOT [emoji6]! [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[True Blue]

I'm the same a positive opk is almost as exciting as a BFP :)

Thank you immi :)

Thank you Taytum, Sorry for the temp drop but you know one temp isn't reliable :fx:

[DreamingPink2015]

Congratulations True Blue how exciting :highfive:

[True Blue]

XX we must have posted together I missed your post, thank you :) and for the blue dust too :bluecheer:

Thank you too dreaming x

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Congrats TRUE!!!!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

True: Big congrats!! I hope it's a little blue eggie in there!! [emoji170][emoji92][emoji170]

Junie: Yay for ovulation!! That's probably my second favorite thing (besides a BFP [emoji6])


Big temp drop this am. [emoji17] Mostly bummed because my LP is usually 8/9ish days and I was hoping Clomid would push it up to at least 12. At least I didn't waste any FRERs!


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Mine dropped today too. I suspect she'll be here today sometime, or tomorrow. Today is 10dpo, and I too am on http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/5ba53a394dceafa3216384f2398fc6d7.jpg
Clomid. I guess it's better than last month. When she came at. 8dpo


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[Boysboys]

Congratulations true!!!!!!!! Praying for a healthy baby boy!! 😍🙏🏻😊

[TaytumJ]

Hitme: I feel like that's the exact same situation I'm in! Mine was so short last month with spotting 8dpo and AF 9dpo. I don't feel like this was much of an improvement, even though I know 10 days is the low side of normal.


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[Junie]

Pbn- I am swaying girl but I've been swaying for over a year (with breaks for getting pregnant, and after the miscarriage) and at this point my husband and I just want to get pregnant- I was actually due in a few weeks with the baby we miscarried, and that was really the spacing we wanted so now I'm adding attempts to speed things along.

[twointow83]

I laughed out loud at so many of these! Love the don't know what day of the month it is on cd or dpo!!

I KNOW!! I can't tell you the dates of some significant moments charting, like the date of a BFP for example but you can bet your booties I know which cycle it was and what DPO :rofl:

[Laurenk1424]

So apparently this head cold isn't a symptom... My throat is killing me and my head feels like it's full of rocks. Ugh... I don't wanna take anything because I "could" be pregnant. Guess I gotta wait it out... Having a toddler who wants you to play play play while u feel horrible isn't the best.


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[momamia4]

Congrats true!!! That is clear as day!

Sorry hitme and taytum. Hugs!!

AF showed up in full force today. :( I'm off to get my next round of clomid and secretly sway this cycle. DH wants to skip this month but I don't have time to waste. He's just going to have to deal with it. Plus, I know he would never be upset by a "surprise" bfp. As far as he knows, 3 of our kids were surprises, lol! GL everyone!! I'll be lurking. :)

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[twointow83]

Oh my oh my oh my . . .

I'm shaking ~ 8dpo ~ please tell I'm not crazy?!?!

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It has dried much clearer in RL more a line than a squinter - oh mommas I'm so excited & terrified all mixed into one!!

26174 :running: Whoop! Whoop!! Congrats!!
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[twointow83]

True: Big congrats!! I hope it's a little blue eggie in there!! [emoji170][emoji92][emoji170]

Junie: Yay for ovulation!! That's probably my second favorite thing (besides a BFP [emoji6])


Big temp drop this am. [emoji17] Mostly bummed because my LP is usually 8/9ish days and I was hoping Clomid would push it up to at least 12. At least I didn't waste any FRERs!


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:hug2: I'm sorry! You aren't out yet though! :fx: for you!

[twointow83]

Mine dropped today too. I suspect she'll be here today sometime, or tomorrow. Today is 10dpo, and I too am on http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/15/5ba53a394dceafa3216384f2398fc6d7.jpg
Clomid. I guess it's better than last month. When she came at. 8dpo


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First of all, YOU MADE IT TO 10DPO!!! Congrats!!! Second you aren't out yet... and that temp may be a drop but it is still WELL above the CL so it is 100% possible that it's just another temp and means nothing in relation to AF :fx: for you!!

[Ashforblue]

Omg True!!!! That's a VERY nice line for 8po!! CONGRATS!!!!!! I'm so very, very happy for you! :cheerteam:

[twointow83]

Congrats true!!! That is clear as day!

Sorry hitme and taytum. Hugs!!

AF showed up in full force today. :( I'm off to get my next round of clomid and secretly sway this cycle. DH wants to skip this month but I don't have time to waste. He's just going to have to deal with it. Plus, I know he would never be upset by a "surprise" bfp. As far as he knows, 3 of our kids were surprises, lol! GL everyone!! I'll be lurking. :)

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Well, pooey!! I was really optimistic for you!! :hug2: :fx: this cycle will be "the one".

[Ashforblue]

Sorry momamia! Hugs & fx for next month!!

[YayBaby678]

Woohoo True!!!! Congrats on your BFP! Hopefully your cycle buddy gets one too ;) sending all my blue dust your way!

Sorry momamia! Sending hugs.

Hitme and Taytum - you ladies definitely aren't out yet!

Boysboys - I would definitely cut out the RePhresh. I think it hurts your chances of a BFP too much. And I swear it gave me a yeast infection last month. I never ever get them but had one last month right after O.


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[Boysboys]

All of these exciting things going on. I feel so boring!lol my line was a little darker so hopefully in the next couple of days I will O!

Sorry momamia��

[twointow83]

All of these exciting things going on. I feel so boring!lol my line was a little darker so hopefully in the next couple of days I will O!

Sorry momamia��

:fx: for you! The wait to O SUCKS!!

[twointow83]

All of these exciting things going on. I feel so boring!lol my line was a little darker so hopefully in the next couple of days I will O!

Sorry momamia��

The wait to O SUCKS! :fx: for you!

[twointow83]

I don't know what the deal is... the board is picking on me again and won't let my posts go thru until they are approved. This is try #3 so hopefully the 3rd time is the charm.

:fx: for you boysboys. I hate the wait to O!

[True Blue]

Thank you everyone :D I'm getting worried now I will test tomorrow and it will be - and I will be :oops:

Yaybaby yes I want you all to get your BFPs I hated being left behind and don't want to leave anyone else behind!!

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[TaytumJ]

Just got a call from my OB and my progesterone level 8dpo was only at a 7. :( I'm so sad - I thought for sure Clomid would really help me out, and now I don't even feel like that's going to work. This is so exhausting.

[twointow83]

Just got a call from my OB and my progesterone level 8dpo was only at a 7. :( I'm so sad - I thought for sure Clomid would really help me out, and now I don't even feel like that's going to work. This is so exhausting.
((((Hugs))))

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[True Blue]

Huge hugs Taytum I'm sorry :hug2: xx

[YayBaby678]

Hugs Taytum! :( I know this TTC stuff is hard enough without having additional things going on to add even more stress. Can you use progesterone cream for future cycles? Not sure if it's ok to use with clomid or not...


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[XXforhubby]

I'm so sorry Taytum! On the bright side, now you know what is going on, and I'm sure your doctor will be able to fix it.

I'm [emoji120]🏻 for you sweetie! Fertility issues SUCK big time. Be kind to yourself and know that you are doing everything you can. Your sweet little man just needs a little more time to come to you, but I believe he will! Until then, I'll keep dumping more of my blue baby dust for you! Maybe I can manage to get rid of it all by the time I secretly sway [emoji1]!!

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[momamia4]

So sorry taytum!!

Well, I ended up going to the wrong office for my RE appointment this morning. Then the guy that was parked next to me stalled his car as he was backing out and blocked me in my parking spot. So, I took those as signs that I am not supposed to keep ttc this cycle a secret from DH and I ended up telling him that I really want to try this cycle. He's all for it! He said he thought I wouldn't want to because of all the other stuff happening around the time I'll be due. I told him there's no guarantee that I'll even get pg this cycle and I'd rather not skip any months that we don't have to. So, we're going to go ahead and try this cycle. I was able to get a later appt with my RE today, so I'm in the waiting room now. Lol! What a day!!

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[momamia4]

I'm going to see if I can do the trigger shot this cycle. FX! :)

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[Laurenk1424]

Sorry Taytum :(
Yay momamia!!

Okay ladies I am STARVING!!! I'm taking this as a sigh AF will be here soon. Boo.


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[Foxcubblue]

True Blue!! Wohoooo! Many congrats!! :running: I knew that condom splitting was a sign that it was meant to happen this month!!! Praying for a sticky blue bean for you xx

Taytum - big hugs. Praying you get to the bottom of things soon, we're all here for you :hug2:

[momamia4]

Back from the RE. He said we're going to try 100mg of clomid. If I don't get pg from that, he's thinking of doing a HSG to make sure my tubes are still open after the reversal. I really hope they are!! So, I should be back in the 2ww in a few weeks! :D

[TaytumJ]

Momamia: what great news! So glad your DH is on board; that has to feel so good! Hopefully I'll be bumped up to 100mg of Clomid next cycle as well; FX!

Thank you so much ladies for all of your love and support, it means so much to me. XX, I got so teary-eyed reading your message. I keep telling myself that everything will work out and I'd rather know all of this is caused my something that hopefully can be fixed than be ovulating monthly with unexplained infertility, but it's just never easy. Just waiting for OB to call with next plan of action.

Love you all so much! [emoji8]


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[twointow83]

Sorry Taytum :(
Yay momamia!!

Okay ladies I am STARVING!!! I'm taking this as a sigh AF will be here soon. Boo.


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Do you generally get really hungry before AF? Because I didn't gain 5+ pounds in the short 8 weeks I was preg in my last preg for nothing, lol. I was insanely hungry... and insanely tired lol. All I wanted to do was eat and sleep, haha. You aren't out yet :fx:

[twointow83]

Back from the RE. He said we're going to try 100mg of clomid. If I don't get pg from that, he's thinking of doing a HSG to make sure my tubes are still open after the reversal. I really hope they are!! So, I should be back in the 2ww in a few weeks! :D

So glad your DH is on board!! :fx: for your BFP next cycle!!!

[twointow83]

Momamia: what great news! So glad your DH is on board; that has to feel so good! Hopefully I'll be bumped up to 100mg of Clomid next cycle as well; FX!

Thank you so much ladies for all of your love and support, it means so much to me. XX, I got so teary-eyed reading your message. I keep telling myself that everything will work out and I'd rather know all of this is caused my something that hopefully can be fixed than be ovulating monthly with unexplained infertility, but it's just never easy. Just waiting for OB to call with next plan of action.

Love you all so much! [emoji8]


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(((MORE HUGS))) Keep us posted! Purty peas??? ;)

[Laurenk1424]

Do you generally get really hungry before AF? Because I didn't gain 5+ pounds in the short 8 weeks I was preg in my last preg for nothing, lol. I was insanely hungry... and insanely tired lol. All I wanted to do was eat and sleep, haha. You aren't out yet :fx:

Well idk, now you've got me questioning it. I know cravings are always around pre AF. My DS just came up to me randomly and put his hands on my belly. He said "there's a baby in there momma, I can see her."
Hopefully he's not just gesturing that I'm fat haha!


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[momamia4]

Idk Lauren... When I was pg with ds1, a random little girl came up to me in a store and said, "You're gonna be a mommy!!" Her dad looked horrified and kept apologizing to me. Lol!!! I wasn't showing or anything. I was only like 8 weeks or something. It was a bit creepy but kind of interesting at the same time.

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[twointow83]

Well idk, now you've got me questioning it. I know cravings are always around pre AF. My DS just came up to me randomly and put his hands on my belly. He said "there's a baby in there momma, I can see her."
Hopefully he's not just gesturing that I'm fat haha!


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Hahaha, that's cute! Do you talk openly about trying to get preg around him (either to DH and he is nearby or like asking him what he'd think) or anything? Can't say that I have a story for that one lol. The closest thing I have is my neices saying "you're fat, Aunt Kristie!" (she was little, didn't know better) and I WASN'T Preggo! Lol. Got any pets? I do have a pet story ;) When I was preg with my first I was living with my Mom and Grandma (their idea, they wanted me to be able to be a stay at home mom until he was a year old and Hubby didn't care lol so we rented a room in their house) and my grandma had 2 dogs, little ones. They would follow her around like a shadow and didn't want anything to do with anyone else unless they couldn't find her. Well, all of a sudden the "puppy" of the 2 (they were both from the same litter and several years old but temperamentally he was was the "puppy" and his brother was "oscar the grouch" lol) started to come to me when I was sitting and he always laid his head on my belly. As soon as my son was born we quit though. It was quite a thing to see. I think kids and pets have like a sixth sense sometimes!

[Laurenk1424]

We ask him if he would like a sibling a lot and we have friends that are pregnant, so I'm sure it's just him being silly. The pet thing is totally true. My dog was all over me withDS. LOL intuition is crazy.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Hitme: I feel like that's the exact same situation I'm in! Mine was so short last month with spotting 8dpo and AF 9dpo. I don't feel like this was much of an improvement, even though I know 10 days is the low side of normal.


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Yep. We're in the same boat. It came today... Spotting now


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[Pbn3]

Sorry Taytum and hitme :(

Momamia sorry you're out this month but great news with dh and re visit

[twointow83]

Yep. We're in the same boat. It came today... Spotting now


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:sad: I'm sorry Hitme! This month was 2 days longer than last.. maybe next cycle you'll make it to 12 DPO :hug2:

[momamia4]

Sorry hitme! Hugs!!

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[Boyboygirl]

Congratulations True!

Boysboys: my opk was a bit darker this morning as well - thinking I will get a positive tonight or tomorrow morning! I used Rephresh for the first time on Monday just bc I was worried about our non attempt on Sunday (only want one attempt lol) but yeah, the white stuff is weird and I hope gone by the time we do our real attempt which I'm assuming will be tomorrow night.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

You guys im sad but not. This was the cycle that of i DID succeed, he or she would have been born so close to ds4... It left s bad taste in my mouth... That being said i would have done cartwheels if I got a bfp.
I feel I need to take two steps back and figure out how to maximize my Ttc efforts this coming cycle. Last month I Od much sooner after a pos opk, this month I had 2 pos opks, so I'm trying to figure out when I should make that attempt. Even if I do e4d which I may, I'll still be tempted to add that attempt, but not knowing when (12-36+ hrs after pos opk) that I o makes it hard to pinpoint.
I also am feeling the financial strain. I want to continue with Clomid until im out of Rx but $70 a month, plus the $30 im spending on opks and hpts adds up. What a habit this is! Hahah!
I have 6 opks and 5 hpts bc I poas a bunch of extra times this month when I shouldn't have.
I am thinking of not buying any new ones, I'll start testing opks at cd 16 but do e4d just in case... Idk im just talking this out at this point...


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[Boyboygirl]

I get what you mean Hitme - when trying to do only one attempt it's hard to decide when is best to do it! Last month I had two days of positive opks but I dtd after first positive.. And then ff said I didn't ovulate until 3 days after that first positive! Though I think ff was a day off. It would be nice to have simple concrete answers lol.
For me, this morning I had a near positive opk.. But at 4:30pm it couldn't be more negative. I want to get a cb digital ovulation but they only sell them in packs of 20 for $70! So yeah, I'll stick with my BFP ones haha

[Boysboys]

Congratulations True!

Boysboys: my opk was a bit darker this morning as well - thinking I will get a positive tonight or tomorrow morning! I used Rephresh for the first time on Monday just bc I was worried about our non attempt on Sunday (only want one attempt lol) but yeah, the white stuff is weird and I hope gone by the time we do our real attempt which I'm assuming will be tomorrow night.


Yes! I just tested again 7:30 pm my time and it was SLIGHTLY darker than this morning. So I'm thinking tomorrow or tomrrow night which means me and hubby will be sneaking out of the hotel room when the babies go to sleep. DH said he wanted to go drink some moon shine and listen to bluegrass music so maybe we can do that and park somewhere! OMG, I feel like I'm 17 again. Haha!! (We are not big drinkers, he just loves to drink moonshine when we go to Tennessee) one more disclaimer: I sound like such a hillbilly, "dranking moonshine", I'm from the south (Alabama) but I promise we aren't hillbillies!LOL

ANYWAY, I use the cheapy wondfos and when it looks positive to me I confirm it with a digital clear blue smiley. They are expensive (36$) but I only use 1-2 a month so they last forever!!! May be an ideas for some of you to save a little money. I think I'm taking back my reohresh since I didn't open that new box! That mess is pricey too!! We are dedicated y'all!!haha

[Boysboys]

Back from the RE. He said we're going to try 100mg of clomid. If I don't get pg from that, he's thinking of doing a HSG to make sure my tubes are still open after the reversal. I really hope they are!! So, I should be back in the 2ww in a few weeks! :D


What great news!! So glad hubby is on board! That makes things go much more smoothly!!

[True Blue]

This morning 9dpo :)

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[Pbn3]

Wow that's great for 9dpo true! Congrats again!!

[True Blue]

I'm sorry Taytum and Hitme :( I'm hoping you both get you BFPs this cycle :pray: :fx:

Momamia great news all round between your DH being eager to keep going - which makes things a helluva lot easier ;) and your RE appt I'm crossing everything for you!!

Taytum has your RE made an appt to see what your next step is? Sorry if I missed you saying already.

Hitme I don't think the every 4 days plus one attempt at opk is a bad idea. Personally if it was me I would BD the night of first positive opk and not do another opk as its only the first that counts and it's more stress to keep testing. This cycle was my first not to test because we weren't "trying" and it was less stress if I'm honest. Added stress in other ways but that was due to the oopsie and the panic after.

I'm willing BFPs for you mommas with all of my being :cheerteam:

Boysboys & Boyboygirl good luck to both of you :fx:

[essnce629]

Oh my oh my oh my . . .

I'm shaking ~ 8dpo ~ please tell I'm not crazy?!?!

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It has dried much clearer in RL more a line than a squinter - oh mommas I'm so excited & terrified all mixed into one!!

Wow, wow, wow!!!!! That's definitely a line! And at 8dpo at that!!! Congrats!!!

[Junie]

I'm really liking the digital OPKs with the flashing smiley and then permanent smiley for peak. My cheapie OPKs are only slightly darker although I'm getting a flashing smiley but my temps are confirming I'll definitely be ovulating in the next two days. So much less stressful then normal!

[True Blue]

Wow, wow, wow!!!!! That's definitely a line! And at 8dpo at that!!! Congrats!!!

Considering it was stark white negative the day before, and I did study it and check hours later :oops: I hope it gives hope to all here who get a BFN ~ that there can be a BFP the very next day :)

[True Blue]

I'm really liking the digital OPKs with the flashing smiley and then permanent smiley for peak. My cheapie OPKs are only slightly darker although I'm getting a flashing smiley but my temps are confirming I'll definitely be ovulating in the next two days. So much less stressful then normal!

I know they're not for everyone but I LOVE the digitals :)

[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats True [emoji8][emoji170][emoji170]!! So excited for you!


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[TaytumJ]

That looks so great True!! So happy and excited for you; I'll be stalking to make sure it's a boy! [emoji170]

AF showed up this morning so I'm really out. Going to call my doctor today to see what next step is going to be - it sounds like low progesterone can be an easy fix, but is a common reason for m/c. So now I feel like I'll not be able to really be excited with a bfp but will worry. Hopefully though I'll get on some supplements before I even get a BFP.

Hopefully I'll be able to jump back on in a few weeks! Going to take a bit of a break, but I'll let you guys know the plan of action. Good luck!! [emoji7][emoji8]


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Yes! I just tested again 7:30 pm my time and it was SLIGHTLY darker than this morning. So I'm thinking tomorrow or tomrrow night which means me and hubby will be sneaking out of the hotel room when the babies go to sleep. DH said he wanted to go drink some moon shine and listen to bluegrass music so maybe we can do that and park somewhere! OMG, I feel like I'm 17 again. Haha!! (We are not big drinkers, he just loves to drink moonshine when we go to Tennessee) one more disclaimer: I sound like such a hillbilly, "dranking moonshine", I'm from the south (Alabama) but I promise we aren't hillbillies!LOL

ANYWAY, I use the cheapy wondfos and when it looks positive to me I confirm it with a digital clear blue smiley. They are expensive (36$) but I only use 1-2 a month so they last forever!!! May be an ideas for some of you to save a little money. I think I'm taking back my reohresh since I didn't open that new box! That mess is pricey too!! We are dedicated y'all!!haha

This made me chuckle [emoji23]


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I'm sorry Taytum and Hitme :( I'm hoping you both get you BFPs this cycle :pray: :fx:

Momamia great news all round between your DH being eager to keep going - which makes things a helluva lot easier ;) and your RE appt I'm crossing everything for you!!

Taytum has your RE made an appt to see what your next step is? Sorry if I missed you saying already.

Hitme I don't think the every 4 days plus one attempt at opk is a bad idea. Personally if it was me I would BD the night of first positive opk and not do another opk as its only the first that counts and it's more stress to keep testing. This cycle was my first not to test because we weren't "trying" and it was less stress if I'm honest. Added stress in other ways but that was due to the oopsie and the panic after.

I'm willing BFPs for you mommas with all of my being :cheerteam:

Boysboys & Boyboygirl good luck to both of you :fx:

Thank you and CONGRATS!!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

That looks so great True!! So happy and excited for you; I'll be stalking to make sure it's a boy! [emoji170]

AF showed up this morning so I'm really out. Going to call my doctor today to see what next step is going to be - it sounds like low progesterone can be an easy fix, but is a common reason for m/c. So now I feel like I'll not be able to really be excited with a bfp but will worry. Hopefully though I'll get on some supplements before I even get a BFP.

Hopefully I'll be able to jump back on in a few weeks! Going to take a bit of a break, but I'll let you guys know the plan of action. Good luck!! [emoji7][emoji8]


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What are your thoughts on B6? I think momamia pointed it toward me and im trying to learn what I can too.
I am not sure when to start and stop but it can be great to lengthen luteal phase. I'll post on general and see what I can learn.


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[twointow83]

That looks so great True!! So happy and excited for you; I'll be stalking to make sure it's a boy! [emoji170]

AF showed up this morning so I'm really out. Going to call my doctor today to see what next step is going to be - it sounds like low progesterone can be an easy fix, but is a common reason for m/c. So now I feel like I'll not be able to really be excited with a bfp but will worry. Hopefully though I'll get on some supplements before I even get a BFP.

Hopefully I'll be able to jump back on in a few weeks! Going to take a bit of a break, but I'll let you guys know the plan of action. Good luck!! [emoji7][emoji8]


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I'm sorry, hun :( Enjoy your breather. Hopefully you can return with BFP news or renewed hope. :hug2:

[YayBaby678]

Momamia - Great news about your RE appointment and so glad to hear your hubby is on board with TTC :)

True - No doubt about it, you are pregnant! Hope that bean is a sticky blue one!

Keep us posted on what your doctor says Taytum. Try not to worry, I know plenty of women who took progesterone and ended up with healthy pregnancies.

hitme - I've heard of some people having good luck with B6. I took it years ago to try to lengthen my LP and it really screwed up my cycles. Late ovulation and long cycles (one was 53 days) and it only extended my LP by one day. If you decide to go for it, I would start with a small amount.

So ladies, I have this really strange symptom the last few days. I have this sharp, ripping pain in my lower left abdomen. It's not constant but if I move too quickly or strain the area (especially when lifting DS but it happens even when I cough), it feels almost like a pulled uterus muscle. I'm guessing its not a sign of pregnancy, as it started at 5 DPO. Has anyone experienced this before? A friend thought it might be a cyst.

[twointow83]

Momamia - Great news about your RE appointment and so glad to hear your hubby is on board with TTC :)

True - No doubt about it, you are pregnant! Hope that bean is a sticky blue one!

Keep us posted on what your doctor says Taytum. Try not to worry, I know plenty of women who took progesterone and ended up with healthy pregnancies.

hitme - I've heard of some people having good luck with B6. I took it years ago to try to lengthen my LP and it really screwed up my cycles. Late ovulation and long cycles (one was 53 days) and it only extended my LP by one day. If you decide to go for it, I would start with a small amount.

So ladies, I have this really strange symptom the last few days. I have this sharp, ripping pain in my lower left abdomen. It's not constant but if I move too quickly or strain the area (especially when lifting DS but it happens even when I cough), it feels almost like a pulled uterus muscle. I'm guessing its not a sign of pregnancy, as it started at 5 DPO. Has anyone experienced this before? A friend thought it might be a cyst.

Hmm, it sounds A LOT like round ligament pain.. A LOT... but starting at 5 DPO I just don't know. Have you done anything that could have pulled a muscle or do you tend to get cysts?

[YayBaby678]

Two - I thought of round ligament pain but I know at 5 DPO, implantation wouldn't have even happened yet, so I'm with you that I just don't think its the case. I don't think I've done anything to pull a muscle but with a VERY busy toddler who constantly wants to be picked up by his mama, its possible I suppose. I know that I had several small cysts when I became pregnant with my DS but I never had any pain from them. I just hope if it's a cyst, it doesn't mean anything bad for my fertility...

[Laurenk1424]

I had two positives this month too... AND I used rephresh after attempt (tiny bit.) I did what I said I wouldn't do and used a cheapie test this morning at 10dpo BFN. I'm trying not to get discouraged but I was really taking every little symptom as a sign lol. Ugh. I wonder when I actually ovulated... Maybe not even until after the second positive OPK.
I've been sick with a cold for a week so I haven't done any cardio... So now I'm feeling bad about my next sway month. Ugh.


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[twointow83]

YayBaby- :fx: that maybe it's just an exaggerated implantation thing... I honestly don't know, though. I have PCOS so I do get cysts but not when cycling regularly, for the most part. For me, they kinda cramp like bad O pains then when they rupture it's horrible... like ER level pain (but I don't go because I know what is going on and all they will do is rack up thousands in pricey tests then give me a pain killer). Never had them get worse from coughing or anything though.. they pretty much hurt the same no matter what I do.

Lauren- :fx: for you! 10 DPO is still early.. esp if you aren't 100% on when you O'd.

[twointow83]

I am starting to question my O :( Yeah, I had a shift, but it's a pretty lousy one and BARELY over my CL. I STILL have EWCM and I am supposed to be 3 DPO and my cervix is still partially open. Usually after O my cervix slams shut like a bear trap. I can't test (OPK) just in case because my tests haven't arrived yet and the ones DH bought are gone. Plus DH and I DTD last night (today would have been the day were were supposed to if running on schedule) thinking I was positive I had O'd and now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's just a side effect of the clomid... but I am just not sure anymore. :worry::SS:

[True Blue]

Yaybaby I did have what I described as a stitch like pain in what felt like my uterus or even ovary area it hurt if I stood up too fast etc so I'm hoping it's a good sign for you!!
Mine was at 6dpo on I'm not sure when it stopped I think around 8dpo.

[YayBaby678]

Two - Thanks, hopefully it is related to implantation! It's definitely not the kind of pain where I would need to go to the ER but it's just enough to be annoying. Based on your chart it definitely looks like you O'd but that is awfully strange that your still having fertile symptoms. I have had EWCM after O though, but usually it doesn't go past 1 DPO. At least you're not too far off from the point you can get in touch with your doctor again. Hopefully you get your BFP before that though! :)

[True Blue]

Two look at my chart, my temp shift is very small too. I won't lie and say it doesn't worry me but it's similar to yours.

[YayBaby678]

True - we must have been typing at the same time! And that's great to hear, maybe its a good sign for me! :)

[True Blue]

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[YayBaby678]

Thanks True!

Although now I'm nervous about my sway because of BD on O day. I came across this the other day and based on the charts, it sounds like it sways boy:

11131f Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11131f)

If I do get a BFP, hopefully my crappy attempt at the diet will help my sway enough.

[twointow83]

Two - Thanks, hopefully it is related to implantation! It's definitely not the kind of pain where I would need to go to the ER but it's just enough to be annoying. Based on your chart it definitely looks like you O'd but that is awfully strange that your still having fertile symptoms. I have had EWCM after O though, but usually it doesn't go past 1 DPO. At least you're not too far off from the point you can get in touch with your doctor again. Hopefully you get your BFP before that though! :)
I noticed that too lol. I'll be 11 dpo on CD 35 and my LP is only 11-12 days (with a rare 13 here and there) so if BFN on CD 35 I'll be calling my doc. I am supposed to call before I start my next round of Clomid anyway and CD 35 is on a Fri, I should start prob Sat. so I'd be CD 2 or 3 by monday and I am supposed to take it CD 3-7.

I have had fertile CM post O before but not for years (back when my hormones were seriously jacked up).

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[twointow83]

Two look at my chart, my temp shift is very small too. I won't lie and say it doesn't worry me but it's similar to yours.

Thanks. I am just hoping for it to start climbing like yours did... it'd make me much more optimistic :/

[TaytumJ]

Yaybaby: Your chart looks really good! I have everything crossed for you! Also, the month I got my chemical I clearly remember this weird pulling/stretching/pinching pain. I hope that means great news for you!

Two: I also think you O'd. And to be honest, sometimes, I see more BFP with the smaller jumps because then it jumps up higher in a few days. I'm definitely no expert on Oing though - I've only done it 3 times since October. ;) I have everything crossed for you though and hopefully it becomes a little more clearer in the coming days. It's always easy to look back on your chart and see things, but in the moment it's so hard to tell.

I'm getting bumped up to 100mg of Clomid. I'll be buying some Mucinex as well, as we've already been using Preseed. We used it more like lube though, not the way the directions tell you to insert it, so maybe we'll be doing that this round. Thinking about how crappy Clomid made me feel I just want to roll around and cry about it BUT, if this is what gets me my BFP, then onward and upward! I am definitely going to attempt to relax more this cycle. I was just so anxious with to start Clomid, plus we were gone on vacation during O, drinking a lot and had a UTI so it didn't seem like a good month. Going to relax and focus on my new job and hope that helps. BUT, if I hear one more person tell me to relax who isn't struggling TTC, I am going to lose my sh*t and go 2009 Britney Spears on them. Shaved head, umbrella and all.

[twointow83]

Thanks True!

Although now I'm nervous about my sway because of BD on O day. I came across this the other day and based on the charts, it sounds like it sways boy:

11131f Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11131f)

If I do get a BFP, hopefully my crappy attempt at the diet will help my sway enough.

This is my angel DD's chart... with no sway. One attempt on O day= DD :) Try not to read too much into timing ;)
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[twointow83]

Yaybaby: Your chart looks really good! I have everything crossed for you! Also, the month I got my chemical I clearly remember this weird pulling/stretching/pinching pain. I hope that means great news for you!

Two: I also think you O'd. And to be honest, sometimes, I see more BFP with the smaller jumps because then it jumps up higher in a few days. I'm definitely no expert on Oing though - I've only done it 3 times since October. ;) I have everything crossed for you though and hopefully it becomes a little more clearer in the coming days. It's always easy to look back on your chart and see things, but in the moment it's so hard to tell.

I'm getting bumped up to 100mg of Clomid. I'll be buying some Mucinex as well, as we've already been using Preseed. We used it more like lube though, not the way the directions tell you to insert it, so maybe we'll be doing that this round. Thinking about how crappy Clomid made me feel I just want to roll around and cry about it BUT, if this is what gets me my BFP, then onward and upward! I am definitely going to attempt to relax more this cycle. I was just so anxious with to start Clomid, plus we were gone on vacation during O, drinking a lot and had a UTI so it didn't seem like a good month. Going to relax and focus on my new job and hope that helps. BUT, if I hear one more person tell me to relax who isn't struggling TTC, I am going to lose my sh*t and go 2009 Britney Spears on them. Shaved head, umbrella and all.

Thanks, after I read this I went back and looked and sure enough.. 2 out of 3 of my preg charts were a less than ideal shift. So, maybe I can muster up some hope lol.

:rofl: Don't you just LOVE that??? I dealt with so many stupid comments while fighting to TTC my 2nd, after we lost him and again TTC my 3rd. Ppl love to fancy themselves as fertility experts and interject their "advise" when it is not solicited.

[daisy4]

I missed so much...congrats True [emoji322] [emoji2]
Momamia glad your husband is on board for this month.
Sorry [emoji20] Taytum hope next cycle gives you a bfp
Magical hope the break from ttc gives you a bfp when you start trying again [emoji6]
I am now back home from visiting family so we will trying this cycle [emoji2] I think I will be ovulating on the 26 or 27 of this month

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[YayBaby678]

This is my angel DD's chart... with no sway. One attempt on O day= DD :) Try not to read too much into timing ;)
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Thanks two, that makes me feel A LOT better :D I know I shouldn't stress about timing, especially because I've been doing the diet and I was sick, which atomic thinks might help my sway. And I honestly think a lot of the charts on FF don't appear to have O pinpointed correctly, so who knows how accurate that analysis is.

Well it sounds like you've got a good plan in place for the rest of the month. FX you get that BFP and don't have to worry about next month!

Thanks Taytum, I didn't realize those kinds of pains were a pregnancy symptom so hopefully its a good sign. It sounds like you've got a good plan in place too. Should the increase in Clomid help with the progesterone or do you have to supplement that too?

[twointow83]

I missed so much...congrats True [emoji322] [emoji2]
Momamia glad your husband is on board for this month.
Sorry [emoji20] Taytum hope next cycle gives you a bfp
Magical hope the break from ttc gives you a bfp when you start trying again [emoji6]
I am now back home from visiting family so we will trying this cycle [emoji2] I think I will be ovulating on the 26 or 27 of this month

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Welcome back :) :fx:

[True Blue]

Welcome back Daisy & thank you :)

[TaytumJ]

Thanks Taytum, I didn't realize those kinds of pains were a pregnancy symptom so hopefully its a good sign. It sounds like you've got a good plan in place too. Should the increase in Clomid help with the progesterone or do you have to supplement that too?

Yes, FX for you they are a good sign! [emoji4] I think that's the hope - to increase my progesterone. I think on the chance of a bfp and progesterone is still low she'll then give supplements. I don't think it will do much to help before a BFP, but hopefully the 100mg is all I need!


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[Junie]

I'm so sorry hitme and Taytum :(

LaurenK- Since you aren't sure about when you Od I think it is still too early!

[Pbn3]

Morning all. Will catch up on last few pages after morning rush hour at home is done :) FF gave me dotted crosshairs this morning http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/16/85d859619a6b6d53b6136fad95cee3b0.jpg

[twointow83]

Morning all. Will catch up on last few pages after morning rush hour at home is done :) FF gave me (dotted) crosshairs this morning.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/16/8098774065e0344d2fdbfe99f9e4573f.jpg
Whoop! Whoop! I kept checking your chart, but you beat me to it today with your update :D congrats testing buddy! I gotta say it is so weird to me that we O'd on diff days but are the same DPO, lol. How long do you plan to hold out on testing?

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[Pbn3]

Hi two! I'm going to test at 8dpo I just wont be able to help myself then at 10dpo onwards lol. I want to look at your chart to but have to get on desktop when I get a chance. Any chance of you posting pic in here for my eager eyes :) :)???

[twointow83]

Hi two! I'm going to test at 8dpo I just wont be able to help myself then at 10dpo onwards lol. I want to look at your chart to but have to get on desktop when I get a chance. Any chance of you posting pic in here for my eager eyes :) :)???

Haha! You sound like me, though I'll prob be using OPKs until 10 DPO since I'll have so many more of those.

Here ya go:
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[Pbn3]

Woohoo looking good! I was thinking about using opks first as well lol. I have 4 sticks left in the cb dual digital do you think it would be the same as paper ones? like maybe show a flashing smiley?

[True Blue]

Yay Pbn & Two :) Good Luck to both of you lots of BFP vibes to you both !!

:fx: :fx: :fx:

[twointow83]

Woohoo looking good! I was thinking about using opks first as well lol. I have 4 sticks left in the cb dual digital do you think it would be the same as paper ones? like maybe show a flashing smiley?

Uh... you could try... but it'd be a pricey experiment if you used them for more than a day or 2 before preg test... and unless you were BFP bound you wouldn't even be able to answer that question at the end of the experiment. That is why I like the cheapies, the only digi I have ever used was a preg digi. I honestly don't know though. If I had to hazard a guess I'd probably say that you probably wouldn't even get a flashing smiley until about when you'd get a faint BFP, because they are made to not jump the gun based on small fluctuations and that is what you are watching for with the OPKs.. watching to see if it gets darker each day (make sure not to compare a wet test to a dry one!!). Perhaps if you are able to take the digi apart and look at the test strip inside? But I honestly don't know :shrug: I'd be interested to know if you happen to try it out and are preggo though!!

[twointow83]

Yay Pbn & Two :) Good Luck to both of you lots of BFP vibes to you both !!

:fx: :fx: :fx:

Aww thanks :) Sending you another batch of blue dust!! How are you feeling??

[Pbn3]

Hahaha I've got just the four sticks leftover from last couple months so I might use from 8 dpo thru to 11dpo regardless of whether I get bfp or not - just as an experiment. Me and dh have decided we'll try for only one more cycle if this cycle is a bust. This ttc has taken over our lives as its been in the planning for the last six months, feels like we are standing still and unable to move in any direction. I definately cant do more than one more cycle on this diet either :). So if its meant to be it will be otherwise I will look forward to focusing on my boys and getting on with my life. I know I haven't been giving them my full attention or dh so its not fair on them to keep on doing so.

[twointow83]

Hahaha I've got just the four sticks leftover from last couple months so I might use from 8 dpo thru to 11dpo regardless of whether I get bfp or not - just as an experiment. Me and dh have decided we'll try for only one more cycle if this cycle is a bust. This ttc has taken over our lives as its been in the planning for the last six months, feels like we are standing still and unable to move in any direction. I definately cant do more than one more cycle on this diet either :). So if its meant to be it will be otherwise I will look forward to focusing on my boys and getting on with my life. I know I haven't been giving them my full attention or dh so its not fair on them to keep on doing so.

Well, :fx: that you get a BFP this cycle and don't have to worry about that ;)

ETA: is it just me or does it seem like the days are crawling? Lol. Only 5 more days until 8 DPO... :pray: we both get a BFP, then we can be due date buddies too ;)

ETA again ;) We haven't been trying as long as some of you... unless you count the loss we had. But I am desperate for a BFP for so many reasons lol the one at the top of my list this cycle is I can get through at least the first month before I start school (tired and nauseous not exactly conducive to studying lol). Also, I REALLY don't want to be preg in May as I mentioned before. I feel for those of you who have been doing this awhile.. I know all to well what it is like.

[Pbn3]

Well, :fx: that you get a BFP this cycle and don't have to worry about that ;)

ETA: is it just me or does it seem like the days are crawling? Lol. Only 5 more days until 8 DPO... [emoji14]ray: we both get a BFP, then we can be due date buddies too ;)
oh yes the days are crawling alright! Can't believe its only 3dpo lol. Makes you want to go to sleep and wake up in 5 days time :)
I would love it if we both got bfps!! How awesome would that be!! Was just thinking it sucks we're in different time zones and cant test at same time :)

[twointow83]

oh yes the days are crawling alright! Can't believe its only 3dpo lol. Makes you want to go to sleep and wake up in 5 days time :)
I would love it if we both got bfps!! How awesome would that be!! Was just thinking it sucks we're in different time zones and cant test at same time :)

I know!!!! If only that would work :rofl: No can't test at the same time, I just can't hold it that long :giggle: but you have the upper hand ;) when you wake up and test you can also check and see if I updated. I have to wait like a million years, hahahaha, just kidding ;)

BTW I have a second edit up there, lol, looks like you were typing as I was editing :D

[mandyp85]

Congratulations True :-) so happy for you. Xxx

[Pbn3]

This is only my 2nd attempt two just been in the planning for sooo long. Never thought it would take such a toll. I'm really hoping you get your bfp especially after your previous loss. You deserve this so much! I know 3 months isn't really a realistic outlook (especially since my boys were 4 & 6 months) to get pregnant in but its what we're working with :( I'm fine about it atm, can't say how I'll be if no go this or next cycle.

[twointow83]

This is only my 2nd attempt two just been in the planning for sooo long. Never thought it would take such a toll. I'm really hoping you get your bfp especially after your previous loss. You deserve this so much! I know 3 months isn't really a realistic outlook (especially since my boys were 4 & 6 months) to get pregnant in but its what we're working with :( I'm fine about it atm, can't say how I'll be if no go this or next cycle.

I am kinda working with the same timeline. I am on clomid to O earlier (yeah that didn't work!) and improve egg quality to try to prevent another loss (she had Trisomy 22, a duplication of chromosome 22 which is incompatible with life, and DH and I have both been tested and it isn't a genetic defect, so we are hoping improving egg quality will help prevent a repeat)as well as to, hopefully, help me get preg sooner. I read a post on here that says after 3 cycles the chances of getting preg on clomid starts to go way down (special circumstances 2 post) and while I could ditch the clomid and O on my own, it is my only method of improving egg quality so I want to get preg within that 3 cycle window. So, realistic or not, I totally get it. If you don't mind me asking, after the 3 months, if no BFP, are you going to be NTNP or TTA?

[Pbn3]

No Twointow we will stop trying altogether. This may sound weird as I know there is absolutely no guarantee with swaying but I'd rather know I've done what I consider all I can to ttc girl (even if I was to fall with boy) than add attempts go off diet etc and end up conceiving boy. Hope this makes sense. Guess I'm saying I could be totally ok with a boy as long as I've tried my best for a girl....

[twointow83]

I get that.

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[Pbn3]

Sounds like lots of positives for clomid! Just think in 5-10 days you may not have to worry about any of this!! Sending you all the pink sticky baby dust there is!!!

[twointow83]

From your fingers to God's ears lol. Right back at ya!

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[Pbn3]

True blue is there any chance you could post your bfp chart? Just wanting to check out your post o temps. Did you see a noticeable implantation dip?

[Magical22]

Congratulations True [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]


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[Magical22]

Update I'm booked in for a lap next week I think my inside and possible endo is why I haven't been falling pregnant. FX next month works. I'm still looking into HT and Ttc at the same time see what happens first. [emoji5]️


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[Pbn3]

I will be watching and waiting Magical fx for you!

[momamia4]

FX magical!! :)

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[Magical22]

When I created DS2 it was straight after a d&c (miscarriage) so after that clean out I was super fertile FX it works again [emoji5]️


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[purplepoet20]

I have been busy with school for 2 boys starting next week.... I will catchup next wednesday!

I am cd21 I think. we did bed on cd13. Today I feel like my period is about to start. aches and pain in lower area mostly on right but is on other side to. I will test in a few days, if pos I will try to get on here sooner.

[Pbn3]

Tick tock tick tock! Why can't there be a test that shows whether the egg was caught or not lol! Only 3dpo and going nuts already. Mentally trying to decide if I could stay team green or not and I don't even know if I'll even get a bfp! Actually went looking for a pencil to do the pencil test (just to see if it would swing the right amount of times) and out of the 100 pencils I looked at not one of them had an eraser! Cant even pass the time with amusing theories lol. Onto something productive and folding laundry

[twointow83]

Tick tock tick tock! Why can't there be a test that shows whether the egg was caught or not lol! Only 3dpo and going nuts already. Mentally trying to decide if I could stay team green or not and I don't even know if I'll even get a bfp! Actually went looking for a pencil to do the pencil test (just to see if it would swing the right amount of times) and out of the 100 pencils I looked at not one of them had an eraser! Cant even pass the time with amusing theories lol. Onto something productive and folding laundry

Haha! And the waiting doesn't get any better when you are preg! When I was preg with DD I was itching to find out boy or girl (I am not a big fan of preg anyway, it doesn't feel safe to me, so it was easier to focus on something else... and I just plain wanted to know lol). The symptom spotting doesn't stop either. I was convinced that my lack of morning sickness was a sign she was a girl.. which turned out to be true, but I think it had more to do with the fact that she was sick and it wasn't a strong preg than anything. Anyway, my point is even once we get preg we are still going to be waiting and analyzing everything for clues. I have one thing to my benefit, given my losses they want to do a verifi test at 12 weeks, assuming a singleton preg since they won't do it for twins+, so I'll likely know gender around 13'ish weeks but that is still a long time to wait. Then there is the wait to feel baby move, the wait for the point of viability, etc. Pregnancy is a big long 2WW haha ;) The 40WW :giggle: Though buying lots of cute baby stuff does take the edge off ;)

[Pbn3]

You're so right lol! One long wait! Please pardon my ignorance but what is a verifi test? Hope thats not an insensitive question its not intended to be. And how many scans do you get where you are? We get one at 7, 12/13, and 20 weeks as the norm. With ds2 I went private and got to see him every appointment, just a quick look each appointment!

[twointow83]

You're so right lol! One long wait! Please pardon my ignorance but what is a verifi test? Hope thats not an insensitive question its not intended to be. And how many scans do you get where you are? We get one at 7, 12/13, and 20 weeks as the norm. With ds2 I went private and got to see him every appointment, just a quick look each appointment!

Not insensitive at all. A verifi test is a blood test. They take a sample of the mom's blood and look for the baby's DNA in it. It tests for things like Down's and such. Here is the website if you want to know more: verifi® Prenatal Test by Progenity | Progenity (http://progenity.com/verifi-prenatal-test-progenity)

It varies by doc and by how many your insurance will pay for. I haven't been considered low risk in a long time so I am not 100% what the norm is. With my first I had 3 early on. 1 at ER where I found out I was preg... thought I had food poisoning lol, then 2 more because they refused to believe I wasn't 10 weeks along (irregular cycles) no matter how many times I told them. I wasn't even charting back then, just intuition I guess. Anyway, I got one and they "couldn't find" him so I had another a couple weeks later after blood tests confirmed that I was still preg and my levels were tripling every other day (thus blowing their idea of a problem out of the water). I had another at about 20'ish weeks (gender u/s) and another late in preg.. so 4 total if I remember correctly, but I know some ppl don't even get that many. With my second I only had 2, one early on and the 20 week gender u/s where we discovered he had passed. Since then I get them frequently. With my 3rd I had one each month until I was 12 weeks, 2 around 20 weeks (1 regular/3D at my OB's and 1 3D at my high risk specialists office) and 3(2 reg and 1 3D), I think, towards the end of preg, for a total of 8 if I am remembering correctly. With my 4th I had one at about 6 weeks at my high risk specialists office and one at 7w 6d where we learned she had stopped growing, but they had planned to do many more. They (high risk specialists) said they wanted to do another at 12 weeks, 16 weeks, 21 weeks and then another around 35 weeks... all in addition to what my regular OB would have done. So, I am kinda spoiled in the u/s dept, which is a good thing once we find the heart beat and I can relax and enjoy seeing my little bean.

[Magical22]

In Australia it's called the harmony or NIPT test, can be down at 10+3 and you will have results back by 12 weeks


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[Pbn3]

Thanks for the link two I'll go in and have a look. I'm so sorry about your losses. I remember with ds1 my local doc couldn't find hb with doppler at around 10 weeks?? I went to the hospital and waited for an hour before I got checked and he was all good just in a bad position for picking up hb took about another 10 mins or so to find though and I held it together until I got back to work then started full on sobbing in front of my lovely co-workers, spit runny nose the lot was a mess. I really thought for that hour and a half that I'd lost my baby and I'll never ever forget that feeling. I was so very lucky and I feel a very real empathy for those who were not lucky and have to live with that feeling :(

[Pbn3]

In Australia it's called the harmony or NIPT test, can be down at 10+3 and you will have results back by 12 weeks


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Thanks Magical! Is this a new thing? dh was actually looking at some blood test thing online the other night and I bet this is what it was. He was also looking at downs/age stats. I got abit mad at him and said I didn't want to talk about that yet!! Let's just focus on getting pregnant first!

[twointow83]

Thanks for the link two I'll go in and have a look. I'm so sorry about your losses. I remember with ds1 my local doc couldn't find hb with doppler at around 10 weeks?? I went to the hospital and waited for an hour before I got checked and he was all good just in a bad position for picking up hb took about another 10 mins or so to find though and I held it together until I got back to work then started full on sobbing in front of my lovely co-workers, spit runny nose the lot was a mess. I really thought for that hour and a half that I'd lost my baby and I'll never ever forget that feeling. I was so very lucky and I feel a very real empathy for those who were not lucky and have to live with that feeling :(

I am sorry you had to go through that :hug2:

[Pbn3]

But mine ended happily :)

Twointow I really really hope this is your month I want to celebrate a happy ending (of the 2ww) for you!! I'm not a religious person but will say a prayer for you (and Magical) just in case!

[Magical22]

Thanks Magical! Is this a new thing? dh was actually looking at some blood test thing online the other night and I bet this is what it was. He was also looking at downs/age stats. I got abit mad at him and said I didn't want to talk about that yet!! Let's just focus on getting pregnant first!

Been around for about 7 years, it's getting more popular now, because it's not as expensive as it use to be. Yes it checks for downs etc, and can tell you 100% gender before 12 weeks. I'm going to get it done but I'm over 30 so it's recommended.


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