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babyonboard
September 9th, 2015, 10:53 AM
congratulations taytum exciting times xx

Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 11:02 AM
Taytum! Congrats!

Two- twins?! That's such an exciting possibility! Woo Hoo!

Afm- I decided it was negative and we haven't had our attempt yet... I'll do my OPK in a minute and hope I didn't miss the window. Even if it's negative we will still have an attempt in hope.


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Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 11:22 AM
If my OPK goes negative...: is it still possible to get pregnant or will it be too late?


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HealthyGirl
September 9th, 2015, 11:35 AM
Taytum congrats on your bfp!



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essnce629
September 9th, 2015, 11:42 AM
Thanks essnce ill be testing probably just after lunch. how long is your lp normally?


Netti-- my LP is usually 13 days. So AF would be due tomorrow.

essnce629
September 9th, 2015, 11:46 AM
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I totally see it Taytum!!! WooHoo! Congrats and sending you lots of sticky dust!!!

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 12:02 PM
If my OPK goes negative...: is it still possible to get pregnant or will it be too late?


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Still very possible. In fact, many don't o until AFTER OPK turns -.

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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nothing like car trouble to blow up a good mood :(

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Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nothing like car trouble to blow up a good mood :(

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Oh no! Hopefully there's a quick solution... I'm over here trying to think of a way to bd while my 3.5 year old is home on my hubs lunch break. Ugh.


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daisy4
September 9th, 2015, 12:14 PM
Congrats Taytum ...I am so happy for you [emoji1] [emoji322] [emoji322]

Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 12:28 PM
Still very possible. In fact, many don't o until AFTER OPK turns -.

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So we should BD ASAP? Right?


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Boysboys
September 9th, 2015, 01:03 PM
So we should BD ASAP? Right?


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Yes girl! Get to it! Lol

Ashforblue
September 9th, 2015, 01:22 PM
Yayyyyyyyy Taytum!!! I'm so, so happy for you!! Fx for a beautiful, healthy, blue sticky bean!!!!!!!! :bluecheer::bluecheer:

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 01:53 PM
Yes girl! Get to it! Lol
What she said lol. Tell hubby break time is over and it's time for him to do his job and knock you up :giggle:

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Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 01:54 PM
What she said lol. Tell hubby break time is over and it's time for him to do his job and knock you up :giggle:

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That just happened. I'm now laying in bed flat hoping that those spermies are doing their thing! Haha how long should I stay??


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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 01:54 PM
Pbn- you awake yet? You awake yet? You awake yet? How about now? You awake yet???? :giggle: I need some POAS action!!!!

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Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 01:55 PM
Pbn- you awake yet? You awake yet? You awake yet? How about now? You awake yet???? :giggle: I need some POAS action!!!!

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I'm dying to know too!!!! Hurry up PB!


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mommymachine
September 9th, 2015, 02:01 PM
Congrats Taytum!!! That's a beautiful BFP!!!

Good luck Purple!

So sorry Essence:( I was really hoping it would happen for you!

PBN I am so excited to see your test today!

Two I am so glad you got in a well timed attempt and I hope you get twins!!!! I'm sure you will see a temp rise tomorrow!

Fox- big hugs. It will happen, and you WILL get your rainbow!

As for me, I got a tiny temp rise but I was hoping for more. Still thinking I'm 1DPO today. Hope the next 2 days will give me crosshairs.


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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 02:10 PM
Congrats Taytum!!! That's a beautiful BFP!!!

Good luck Purple!

So sorry Essence:( I was really hoping it would happen for you!

PBN I am so excited to see your test today!

Two I am so glad you got in a well timed attempt and I hope you get twins!!!! I'm sure you will see a temp rise tomorrow!

Fox- big hugs. It will happen, and you WILL get your rainbow!

As for me, I got a tiny temp rise but I was hoping for more. Still thinking I'm 1DPO today. Hope the next 2 days will give me crosshairs.


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I don't know. I have no cramping but haven't for days. All I have had the last few days is a backache. I had one sharp pain on right side earlier today but only lasted about 30 secs. After so much cramping on Clomid this cycle is weird. I'd think that 2 follicles would mean MORE cramping, not less. Lol. All I know is TMI but it's killing me being stuck at school because my libido is through the roof![emoji7] [emoji12] [emoji1] [emoji131]

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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 02:10 PM
Congrats Taytum!!! That's a beautiful BFP!!!

Good luck Purple!

So sorry Essence:( I was really hoping it would happen for you!

PBN I am so excited to see your test today!

Two I am so glad you got in a well timed attempt and I hope you get twins!!!! I'm sure you will see a temp rise tomorrow!

Fox- big hugs. It will happen, and you WILL get your rainbow!

As for me, I got a tiny temp rise but I was hoping for more. Still thinking I'm 1DPO today. Hope the next 2 days will give me crosshairs.


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Oh and FX you caught the eggie!!

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netti02
September 9th, 2015, 02:39 PM
Goodluck essnce xx

Congrats taytum

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 03:34 PM
Morning all well its still there but just as faint as yesterday. I am only 8dpo I keep telling myself... So now I'll get more tests (dh will flip lol). I stupidly used a cb digital to and of course it says not pregnant. Can you ladies still see a line?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/2b41750441c842e067024612918023b7.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/c6f0bed0a88ae5fc4d8cdb705a9d5c4d.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/0f80283b6e6e7eb8cc98ff8b9d43e8b3.jpg

Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 03:53 PM
[QUOiTE=Pbn3;754994]Morning all well its still there but just as faint as yesterday. I am only 8dpo I keep telling myself... So now I'll get more tests (dh will flip lol). I stupidly used a cb digital to and of course it says not pregnant. Can you ladies still see a line?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/2b41750441c842e067024612918023b7.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/c6f0bed0a88ae5fc4d8cdb705a9d5c4d.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/09/0f80283b6e6e7eb8cc98ff8b9d43e8b3.jpg[/QUOTE]
i think I can still see it..... Maybe wait until 10dpo to test again so you don't have to rack up on tests!
Good luck!!!

We bd earlier today and I'm dressed to go to the gym for my cardio.... I tell myself it's crazy to think I could jostle some spermies loose... I can't can I???



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Quinn31
September 9th, 2015, 03:57 PM
Pbn- I feel like I can see it, especially in the third picture.

Lauren- I think about that too but after 30 minutes or so, they're wherever they're going to be.

Any ladies in the 2ww and having any symptoms? I'm breaking out which is a sure sign of af but I'm also not gassy and bloated like normal with af so I'm going to remain optimistic. I can't believe af isn't due until Monday. It seems like a lifetime from now.


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Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 03:58 PM
After only 30 minutes they're safe? I thought it was a way longer time period than that! We bd about 2 hrs ago.


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Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 04:13 PM
Thanks Lauren and Quinn - I'm actually feeling yesterdays was easier to see so I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried. Anyway we'll see I suppose.

Lauren two hours is plenty of time!

Quinn hopefully the next few days fly past for you fx! Are you only going to test if af doesn't come?

Quinn31
September 9th, 2015, 04:17 PM
Thanks Lauren and Quinn - I'm actually feeling yesterdays was easier to see so I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried. Anyway we'll see I suppose.

Lauren two hours is plenty of time!

Quinn hopefully the next few days fly past for you fx! Are you only going to test if af doesn't come?

Yes, I'll test on Monday probably if no af. Last month I broke my no testing early rule and it was depressing. I usually try to wait until af is a few days late because I've had a chemical before and that sucked. I really hope this is it. Boys swayers are supposed to get pregnant fast with everything we're doing to increase fertility. I've been eating avocados almost every day for months! Plus all the supplements and other nutritious foods.


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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 04:28 PM
That just happened. I'm now laying in bed flat hoping that those spermies are doing their thing! Haha how long should I stay??


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Sorry, missed this post earlier. That is a personal decision. You can J&D or you can lay there as long as possible to make sure your 1 attempt counts as much as humanly possible. J&D is pinker though.

Laurenk1424
September 9th, 2015, 04:30 PM
Sorry, missed this post earlier. That is a personal decision. You can J&D or you can lay there as long as possible to make sure your 1 attempt counts as much as humanly possible. J&D is pinker though.

I laid there for 10 mins then got back to normal ... I'm now on the elliptical :)


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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 04:33 PM
Pbn- I think I still see a line but I'm not going to lie.... It's a bit more of a squinter than yesterday's. It takes a couple days for HCG to double so maybe tomorrow's test will be darker :fingers:

Junie
September 9th, 2015, 05:29 PM
Yay Taytum!! Congrats :) :)

Junie
September 9th, 2015, 05:31 PM
Pbn3 please wait a few days. It takes time for Hcg levels to double and it is still so early.

mammacass
September 9th, 2015, 06:12 PM
Pbn hope you are ok, yesterday's was a bit clearer but I'm sure in the next few days it will darken up for you xx



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mammacass
September 9th, 2015, 06:13 PM
Good luck Lauren!!


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mammacass
September 9th, 2015, 06:14 PM
We need to make Wednesdays a mandatory weekend day! It is HUMP day after all... but nobody is because everyone is at WORK lol. :rofl:

Today is going to be interesting, lol. I am in FAR too goo of a mood, lol. My head hurts, I'm sleep deprived and I have an exam today and yet I can't wipe the smile off my face :D Things are too good right now. Two wonderful friends got their BFPs, I've got a shot at TWINS (NEVER expected that to ACTUALLY happen!).

Anyone else in a REALLY good mood??

Loving this post two! Brought an instant smile to my face this morning [emoji38]


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TaytumJ
September 9th, 2015, 06:17 PM
Pb - I agree I can see a squinter, but at 8dpo you are still really early! I'm going to try to wait until Friday to use my other FRER. I bought some Walmart cheapies for .88 and did one, but my urine was really diluted and my line was lighter so I know what you're feeling when you just want some reassurance! Hang in there!

Quinn - I've felt that exact thing the past year with my boy sway. Of course, I left it slack this month, but at this point I don't care if that bean is blue, pink or otherwise as long as it sticks!

Two - I'm jealous of your libido - I've been so frustrated with TTC that it's kind of just baby making lol. Hopefully that's a good sign though and enjoy the time without cramps; if it will be anything like my last O was it was PAINFUL!

Good luck to all of you ladies catching those eggs!

mommymachine
September 9th, 2015, 06:26 PM
PBn I see it. Really hoping it gets darker for you!!

Two- I'm in the same boat with libido, as I ALWAYS am right before and right after it's O time.
I'm not sure how I feel about only getting in one attempt. On one hand I'm happy cause it's pink, and I did a very quick jump and dump. On the other hand, I just hope it's enough. I would love a May baby.


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Ashforblue
September 9th, 2015, 06:36 PM
Pbn~ mine was a squinter for like 2 days at 11 & 12 dpo.... You could barely see it & def didn't show up on a photo... The cb digi didn't show up preggo til like 13 dpo.... I think it's amazing that your already seeing a line!!! Can you see it pretty clear?

Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 06:43 PM
Thanks everyone I know its still so early but I can't say I wasnt abit devastated this morning after yesterdays high lol. Ash it was definately lighter this morning. And I know I should hold off testing for a couple days but I've just bought another frer 3pk lol so.... lol. Dh didn't even complain, think it was the tears, he hates to see me cry.

Purple where are you? Have you tested!! fx fx fx!!

Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 06:56 PM
Cd1 for me today onto IUI this month


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Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 06:57 PM
Pbn3 lets see how 10dpo looks in a few days [emoji3]


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purple
September 9th, 2015, 07:04 PM
Sorry the line wasn't darker pbn but as the others said, it's still really early! good luck!

I did test this morning with very concentrated looking fmu. I think i can see a super super faint line but maybe its just a shadow? It won't show up in a photo so i didn't take one. Will probably try again tomorrow.. so much for waiting until the weekend!

Just a question about FRER BFNs, if you shine a light from the back can you see the test line shadow?

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Boysboys
September 9th, 2015, 07:05 PM
Pb still so early! I still think it's your month!!!!

So sorry Magical, what month Ttc are you?? Remind me of your history?

Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 07:07 PM
Hope your super faint line gets darker Purple! I don't know about the light behind question... will be interesting to see what the others say

Quinn31
September 9th, 2015, 07:19 PM
Pb - I agree I can see a squinter, but at 8dpo you are still really early! I'm going to try to wait until Friday to use my other FRER. I bought some Walmart cheapies for .88 and did one, but my urine was really diluted and my line was lighter so I know what you're feeling when you just want some reassurance! Hang in there!

Quinn - I've felt that exact thing the past year with my boy sway. Of course, I left it slack this month, but at this point I don't care if that bean is blue, pink or otherwise as long as it sticks!

Two - I'm jealous of your libido - I've been so frustrated with TTC that it's kind of just baby making lol. Hopefully that's a good sign though and enjoy the time without cramps; if it will be anything like my last O was it was PAINFUL!

Good luck to all of you ladies catching those eggs!

Taytum- what did your O pains feel like this month? Mine hurt so bad like my cervix was contracting. This is gross but it felt like my insides would fall out which is how I felt during contractions.


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ImmiNAddi
September 9th, 2015, 07:19 PM
Hope those lines get darker Pbn and Purple! :fingers:

Two - how awesome (and terrifying lol!) - the chance at twinnies?!

I am on CD4, tonight will be my 3rd Clomid pill - so far no side effects at all, yay! :)

purple
September 9th, 2015, 07:20 PM
Sorry magical, I mised your post. I hope this new month is the one for you!

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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 07:27 PM
Loving this post two! Brought an instant smile to my face this morning [emoji38]


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Happy to help :D

netti02
September 9th, 2015, 07:27 PM
Hugs magical- babydust to you this month

Purple- i know i turn my tests which way and that, shine lights on them etc as far as i know if there is a line it'll be there. Ive never had a shadow before and i check my tests pretty thoroughly 😂😂

Pbn- as hard as it is to wait I'd try so u see a nice dark line.



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Boysboys
September 9th, 2015, 07:31 PM
Ok, clomid... Are most of you on it for ovulation or swaying??

ImmiNAddi
September 9th, 2015, 07:33 PM
Ok, clomid... Are most of you on it for ovulation or swaying??

Me = swaying purposes only

netti02
September 9th, 2015, 07:33 PM
Boysboys not on it at all. Though the way im going i might need it 😂

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 07:41 PM
Pb - I agree I can see a squinter, but at 8dpo you are still really early! I'm going to try to wait until Friday to use my other FRER. I bought some Walmart cheapies for .88 and did one, but my urine was really diluted and my line was lighter so I know what you're feeling when you just want some reassurance! Hang in there!

Quinn - I've felt that exact thing the past year with my boy sway. Of course, I left it slack this month, but at this point I don't care if that bean is blue, pink or otherwise as long as it sticks!

Two - I'm jealous of your libido - I've been so frustrated with TTC that it's kind of just baby making lol. Hopefully that's a good sign though and enjoy the time without cramps; if it will be anything like my last O was it was PAINFUL!

Good luck to all of you ladies catching those eggs!

Lately my libido has been in the crapper too. Just feels too scheduled and routine... feels like a chore. But I don't know if it's hormones, excitement at prospects or the freedom to do what we want when we want but my engine has been in high gear all freaking day! Imagine focusing with that! AND I must have had a "look" because a male friend of mine who sits next to me in my first class kept looking at me like he was trying to figure something out. In a typical class if he isn't talking to me, I'm not talking to him or I am not speaking to the prof, he might look my direction once or twice but today he looked at me AT LEAST half a dozen times so all I can figure is I wasn't hiding my distraction well, lol. Then I get hubby from work and I am sooooooo ready to jump him and the MIL was STILL here and not ready to go home. He is taking her home now. It was like "woman, I love ya, but GO HOME!!" :rofl: The kids are still up so we wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway, so it's not her fault but I am like climbing the walls over here lol.

I'm not getting my usual cramps but I do have an intensifying backache. I looked it up and apparently ovulation can cause a backache too. Who knew :shrug: I took some tylenol so it's a bit better now though. Took another OPK when I got home and it's another dark'ish but neg one.

Also, after talking to atomic I'm feeling like there might still be some hope of getting our girl if we get our twins. I also looked online at odds and there is a 33% chance of BB twins, 33% change of BG twins and a 33% chance of GG twins... so a 66% chance of at least one girl :cheer: Go :pinksperm: Go!!!!!

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 07:44 PM
PBn I see it. Really hoping it gets darker for you!!

Two- I'm in the same boat with libido, as I ALWAYS am right before and right after it's O time.
I'm not sure how I feel about only getting in one attempt. On one hand I'm happy cause it's pink, and I did a very quick jump and dump. On the other hand, I just hope it's enough. I would love a May baby.


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I'll keep my FX for you!!!! I get preg the first cycle TTC after our loss but I think the damage was too great/ lining to thin to sustain it.... but it took me months to heal. So, hopefully that "beginner's luck" finds favor with you too and gives you a sticky bean!!

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 07:48 PM
Thanks everyone I know its still so early but I can't say I wasnt abit devastated this morning after yesterdays high lol. Ash it was definately lighter this morning. And I know I should hold off testing for a couple days but I've just bought another frer 3pk lol so.... lol. Dh didn't even complain, think it was the tears, he hates to see me cry.

Purple where are you? Have you tested!! fx fx fx!!

:LotsofLove: (((((HUGS))))) BTDT, doesn't feel very good, but hopefully you have a sticky bean in there and you just were unlucky this morning and that particular test was a bit less sensitive than the one you took yesterday :hug2:

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 07:49 PM
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Well... FUDGE!! (((HUGS))) I am sorry. Hopefully IUI does the trick. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed and prayers going up for you!

Boysboys
September 9th, 2015, 07:57 PM
Me = swaying purposes only


Wow! How do you get it for swaying purposes?? I see you're in Australia. Are you not scared of triplets or quads!?lol I mean I would love me some twins though!!

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 08:05 PM
Hope those lines get darker Pbn and Purple! :fingers:

Two - how awesome (and terrifying lol!) - the chance at twinnies?!

I am on CD4, tonight will be my 3rd Clomid pill - so far no side effects at all, yay! :)

Twins run on my Dad's side of the family (and if my mom didn't give birth to me you wouldn't know she was my mom because genetically speaking I am WAY more like my dad.. been tested in case you are wondering lol) and my Mom had and lost a set of twins but they were conceived using injectables. So, LONG ago we talked about the possibility and were both okay with it. Me more than him, but it has grown on him. But we HONESTLY never expected to actually have a shot at them!! I know they will be a handful but with two high functioning autistic children, and once that had brain surgery at age 2 and continues to have developmental delays, I've NEVER had it easy lol. It will take some adjustment learning to nurse, chancge, bathe, etc 2 instead of one but I'm up for the challenge :D Though I know the idea makes most wet their pants :giggle: Now.. trips or more... THAT'S scary to me. I only have 2 arms and there are only 2 parents... we'd be outnumbered by newborns lol. And since 1 egg can split into 2 babies it's possible :nails: But lets hope not, k? K! :giggle:

TaytumJ
September 9th, 2015, 08:06 PM
Quinn - it was excruciating pain - like the worst cramps ever. It woke me up and I felt like I was on fire; I went to the bathroom and was doubled over. For days after that I was so sensitive, especially with a full blatter. I've never had contractions but this wasn't fun!

Magical - I'm so sorry. I have everything crossed IUI is exactly the ticket for you and you see a BFP later this month.

Boys boys - I wasn't ovulating so I'm on Clomid 100mg days 5-9.

Two - I've heard of women "smelling" better to men near ovulation - maybe he could smell you lolol! I know what you mean about MIL - mine just drops by all the time, and I love her but you're right - you gotsta go. And those odds are great - that's MORE than 50/50 and you've been swaying! I'm so excited to follow your journey!

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 08:07 PM
Ok, clomid... Are most of you on it for ovulation or swaying??

Both. I O on my own but take it to O sooner and hopefully improve egg quality. Swaying is just a handy bonus lol.

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 08:12 PM
Quinn - it was excruciating pain - like the worst cramps ever. It woke me up and I felt like I was on fire; I went to the bathroom and was doubled over. For days after that I was so sensitive, especially with a full blatter. I've never had contractions but this wasn't fun!

Magical - I'm so sorry. I have everything crossed IUI is exactly the ticket for you and you see a BFP later this month.

Boys boys - I wasn't ovulating so I'm on Clomid 100mg days 5-9.

Two - I've heard of women "smelling" better to men near ovulation - maybe he could smell you lolol! I know what you mean about MIL - mine just drops by all the time, and I love her but you're right - you gotsta go. And those odds are great - that's MORE than 50/50 and you've been swaying! I'm so excited to follow your journey!

:rofl: I'm scratch and sniff... minus the scratch :rofl: I've heard that too but didn't think of that :D I know!!! LOVING the odds... but that's only if we actually get twins.

ImmiNAddi
September 9th, 2015, 08:18 PM
Wow! How do you get it for swaying purposes?? I see you're in Australia. Are you not scared of triplets or quads!?lol I mean I would love me some twins though!!

I am being monitored with blood tests etc though, and if my numbers shoot up crazy then I will also have a scan.
I kind of just stumbled upon it. I am doing a tracked cycle with my Dr this month and I told the receptionist that I wanted to try the Clomid as I didn't know when I would be ovulating as everything was 'messed up' from the miscarriage. So she wrote out the script and took it into the Dr (who had another patient with her at the time) for her to sign and 'voila' now I have it!
I do not want twins, so I am thinking of asking for a scan no matter what my numbers look like :)

Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 08:26 PM
Pb still so early! I still think it's your month!!!!

So sorry Magical, what month Ttc are you?? Remind me of your history?

Month 7, will try IUI this month then onto IVF

Last month of clomid it's getting upped to 100mg.

Been on clomid and monitored the whole time.


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Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 08:28 PM
Sorry magical, I mised your post. I hope this new month is the one for you!

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Thank you!!

Good luck I will be stalking you


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Quinn31
September 9th, 2015, 08:48 PM
Month 7, will try IUI this month then onto IVF

Last month of clomid it's getting upped to 100mg.

Been on clomid and monitored the whole time.


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Magical, I kind of know how you feel. With my second dd, I couldn't get pregnant. I went through 6 rounds of clomid and 3 IUIs. Now that we're trying again, I'm realizing how traumatizing the whole situation was. I'm constantly assuming I'm not pregnant.

Good luck. Treat yourself today.


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Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 08:53 PM
Magical, I kind of know how you feel. With my second dd, I couldn't get pregnant. I went through 6 rounds of clomid and 3 IUIs. Now that we're trying again, I'm realizing how traumatizing the whole situation was. I'm constantly assuming I'm not pregnant.

Good luck. Treat yourself today.


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Thank you that's really nice to know. It's so frustrated and I feel like a bit of a failure, so frustrating when all our tested results come back great.

I have no hope in IUI working which is why I'm just giving it one chance, no reason why just my negative thoughts lately.

I'm at work today but will have a glass of wine tonight while watching The Bachelor Australia [emoji5]️[emoji166]

Did IUI work for you on the third attempt?


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Boysboys
September 9th, 2015, 08:53 PM
I am being monitored with blood tests etc though, and if my numbers shoot up crazy then I will also have a scan.
I kind of just stumbled upon it. I am doing a tracked cycle with my Dr this month and I told the receptionist that I wanted to try the Clomid as I didn't know when I would be ovulating as everything was 'messed up' from the miscarriage. So she wrote out the script and took it into the Dr (who had another patient with her at the time) for her to sign and 'voila' now I have it!
I do not want twins, so I am thinking of asking for a scan no matter what my numbers look like :)

That's awesome! I'm so jealous. I would love twins AND the bonus of swaying!

Quinn31
September 9th, 2015, 09:19 PM
Thank you that's really nice to know. It's so frustrated and I feel like a bit of a failure, so frustrating when all our tested results come back great.

I have no hope in IUI working which is why I'm just giving it one chance, no reason why just my negative thoughts lately.

I'm at work today but will have a glass of wine tonight while watching The Bachelor Australia [emoji5]️[emoji166]

Did IUI work for you on the third attempt?


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It did! I had been pregnant twice very quickly (one dd and one mc) and our tests came back normal as well so there was no explanation. That is so frustrating but the good thing is it means you can get pregnant, at least that was my Dr's perspective on it. He also said that sometimes you can just have bad luck every month for awhile. It's so hard to be positive now but I'm trying to. I'm even saying affirmations about how fertile I am, haha. I'm going to start doing yoga poses that promote fertility as well.

Are you swaying girl?


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Magical22
September 9th, 2015, 09:28 PM
It did! I had been pregnant twice very quickly (one dd and one mc) and our tests came back normal as well so there was no explanation. That is so frustrating but the good thing is it means you can get pregnant, at least that was my Dr's perspective on it. He also said that sometimes you can just have bad luck every month for awhile. It's so hard to be positive now but I'm trying to. I'm even saying affirmations about how fertile I am, haha. I'm going to start doing yoga poses that promote fertility as well.

Are you swaying girl?


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Thank you

I think I will do the same [emoji5]️[emoji166] positive thoughts

Yes swaying for a little girl, are you swaying for a boy?


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netti02
September 9th, 2015, 10:05 PM
Another negative opk. Im starting to wonder if I already O. The test i did Monday morning (cd13) was the closest i had to a decent line even though negative. maybe it was the LH on the way out. Still seeing ewcm but also creamy. Ive had alot of af cramps too whilst moderate are never usually this persistent till after O. I guess more waiting 😢😰😵

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Jelliebellie83
September 9th, 2015, 10:20 PM
Hi everyone! New here and joining the 2ww - congrats to all the ladies who have gotten their BFPs and hoping that BFPs are getting closer to those of us who are still waiting!

I'm at 6-7DPO I think. I don't temp but was doing OPKs and got my first solid smiley on 9/3 which just so happened to fit my e4d schedule perfectly. I'm trying to sway for a girl. So we DTD, and I put a pillow under my hips for like 15 mins and then got up. I don't expect to get a BFP this month bc it's our first try, BUT I'll be damned if my mind isn't playing tricks on me and I'm over-analyzing symptoms!

A quick q: if I'm doing spinning classes during the 2ww, could that affect or impair implantation? I just had my class today and I couldn't for the life of me keep up and had to slow down. It was really weird but I'm probably tired bc I had insane dreams last night and didn't sleep very well. Have another class scheduled for Saturday. Should I skip it? Thanks!!!



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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 10:27 PM
Hi everyone! New here and joining the 2ww - congrats to all the ladies who have gotten their BFPs and hoping that BFPs are getting closer to those of us who are still waiting!

I'm at 6-7DPO I think. I don't temp but was doing OPKs and got my first solid smiley on 9/3 which just so happened to fit my e4d schedule perfectly. I'm trying to sway for a girl. So we DTD, and I put a pillow under my hips for like 15 mins and then got up. I don't expect to get a BFP this month bc it's our first try, BUT I'll be damned if my mind isn't playing tricks on me and I'm over-analyzing symptoms!

A quick q: if I'm doing spinning classes during the 2ww, could that affect or impair implantation? I just had my class today and I couldn't for the life of me keep up and had to slow down. It was really weird but I'm probably tired bc I had insane dreams last night and didn't sleep very well. Have another class scheduled for Saturday. Should I skip it? Thanks!!!



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Welcome! I've always been told that if you're used to it then just keep doing it to the degree of comfort. Personally, though, I am crazy paranoid about preg or possibly being preg, due to my losses so I am pretty careful about EVERYTHING lol. I think you'll be ok but if you are really worried then missing a week until you know for sure won't make you flabby or anything, lol.

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Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 10:30 PM
Welcome Jelliebellie! fx and good luck! I can't answer your question regarding spin class but maybe skip one seeing as you're 6-7dpo?

Netti so glad you got those attempts in when you did! I think yoy may have missed your surge but sounds like your attempts were right around o! fx and hope the 2ww passes quickly for you

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 10:31 PM
I think I might be O'ing! :D I'm a little nauseas and my left side is cramping hard for the first time this cycle. Eeeek! :fingers: that I am! Ready to get my 2WW on :)

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netti02
September 9th, 2015, 10:34 PM
Goodluck two 🙏

I hope so pbn cause im seriously over waiting and planning our bds lol. Will get one in today but my 3 nights start tonight so who knows 😂

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Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 10:34 PM
Yay two!! Hopefully I'm still awake when you temp :)

twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 10:37 PM
Yay two!! Hopefully I'm still awake when you temp :)

Gotta take hubby to work at 6:20 (my time) so I'll post after that if you want!? Too tired to do the math on what time that will be your time lol.

Pbn3
September 9th, 2015, 10:44 PM
Sounds great will be 8.30pm ish my time :)

mommymachine
September 9th, 2015, 10:52 PM
Two - I totally think his hormones were picking up on your hormones! Crazy!!!


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twointow83
September 9th, 2015, 11:01 PM
Two - I totally think his hormones were picking up on your hormones! Crazy!!!


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It's weird to think of that, lol. We are 100% platonic friends and to think of hormones entering the equation is a bizarre concept. Logically I know it's just biology (if that was the case... I could have had something on my face for all I know, lol) but still a strange thought.

purple
September 9th, 2015, 11:29 PM
Ok, clomid... Are most of you on it for ovulation or swaying??
I have only taken it in the past for fertility issues (conceived DS1). I was going to get a referral to a specialist to try to get it again for swawing and stupid long cycles but then I got pregnant. I misscarried but last time I saw my dr I wasn't up to pursuing the referral again so I'm just trying on my own.
If it was easier to get I would be using it already!

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purple
September 9th, 2015, 11:33 PM
Purple- i know i turn my tests which way and that, shine lights on them etc as far as i know if there is a line it'll be there. Ive never had a shadow before and i check my tests pretty thoroughly 😂😂

Yeah I do that too and have never seen anything before. I wish I kept my BFNs from March, I'm sure they were stark white. I don't want to get my hopes up yet but it is really hard not to!


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netti02
September 9th, 2015, 11:38 PM
Ive always had stark white so fingers X for something darker. Im praying to get a positive opk atm lol

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Jelliebellie83
September 10th, 2015, 12:52 AM
Thanks Two and Pbn!!! I think just to be on the safe side I should skip a couple classes. I've been doing 4 times a week since June to get my cardio in but I'm getting muscle-y (and gaining weight bc of the muscle) so maybe I need to tone it down a bit anyway - worried it might sway blue. Plus I don't want to shake loose any sticky beans!

Pbn when are you going to test again? Keeping all fingers and toes crossed for you!!




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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 02:00 AM
Good idea to cut back if your gaining muscle mass pretty sure that does sway blue so at least you've got a great excuse to have some time off from it lol!

I'll test again in the morning about 13 hours or so from now not that I'm counting :) I've been mentally preparing myself for bfn all day so I wont feel so crushed if it is. But then that image of a pink line sneaks in and I find myself imagining that too lol! Such a rollercoaster! When are you going to start testing?

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 02:21 AM
Anyone using or has used ovuplan scope? Searching best prices on opks (not much variety and limited time to search tmro post night shift) and they are selling the scope for $30 which is $3 more than the first response kit and reusable. Clearblue digi are $40 for ten and the first response are $27 for 7. Waiting on my cheapies to arrive still.

I had read how to use the ovuplan looks a little more complicated than opks and im worrying about accuracy. Knowing my luck id double up anyway lol

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 02:32 AM
Netti I looked into it ages ago prior to actually ttc. Like you I read good and bad reviews and I thought trying to read patterns would be more stressful and difficult than standard opks. If you had a few months to use it for comparison month to month maybe it'd be worth it but I wouldn't now that you are actually ttc iykwim :) I have found the cb dual digi's really accurate - even though I questioned my o day because of lack of temp rise it gave me a solid smiley the day of o and previous cycles has been spot on the day b4 o. I just love that it takes any time variance out of the equation and you use once a day with fmu (you can test more once smiley flashing). And of course I love being able to pee on something by cd7 lol :)

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 03:27 AM
Lol. Yeh i was thinking it may be abit time consuming.

Im just not sure whether i should keep opk testing this cycle or not? Maybe every second day as my opks barely have lines and I would rather stockpile opks atm than keep poas with no result. Ive either already O before cd13 or this is going to be really late O. Every 2nd day should catch something on an opk right?

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 03:32 AM
Depends how long your surge is. What cd are you on now?

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 03:42 AM
Typically get a few days of light lines then solid then usually nothing the next day. Ive O cd17 and cd16 going by my last 2 cycles using opks. Im at cd16 now and i usually see something on the opk but its just a very faint squinter of a line thats why im thinking every 2nd day incase i have already O. Im totally testing late next week if no positive opk 😂😂

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 03:46 AM
I'd keep testing everyday for at least the next three days Netti just in case. It's very possible you oed early too, I oed cd15 last cycle (the latest I ever have!) and cd11 this cycle. Either that or revert to the e4d for the next week just to cover yourself :)

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 04:02 AM
Yeh i will. I have had a 33 day which was my first one i monitored so ill see how i go. Certainly dont want to miss the boat

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:50 AM
Here you go pbn

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 05:54 AM
It's a rise :) loving all your attempts! Seriously if you don't get a bfp this cycle!!!

Quinn31
September 10th, 2015, 05:59 AM
Thank you

I think I will do the same [emoji5]️[emoji166] positive thoughts

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I am swaying boy. Everyone gets so nervous but IUI swaying boy but I'm proof you can still get a girl. I had read the book Inconceivable and was doing a lot of what she did and she had a girl as well. I had a pretty low protein diet and I was eating only fruit in the morning. I'm not sure why, that's just what she did.

Good luck. I'm only 9dpo and I can't help but look towards next month. Dh is not willing to get fertility help this time and won't try for more than a year so hopefully it happens naturally.


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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:03 AM
It's a rise :) loving all your attempts! Seriously if you don't get a bfp this cycle!!!
Add another this AM, lol. :oops: Glad we decided to go for twins cause my libido this cycle would never have let me stop at one attempt... though I guess condoms would have worked.

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purple
September 10th, 2015, 06:05 AM
I have come home and looked at my test again and can't really see anything now. I think it was probably just the indent line which apparently can show on frers. Also apparently you can see the indent when shining a light through the tests according to some posts elsewhere I found when I googled it. I will still test tomorrow but I'm not expecting anything :(

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:11 AM
Purple I'm not expecting to see a line on mine either :( here's to hoping we are both wrong!!

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:13 AM
Add another this AM, lol. :oops: Glad we decided to go for twins cause my libido this cycle would never have let me stop at one attempt... though I guess condoms would have worked.

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Wow lol!! Wish I had the same enthusiasm :) so excited for you two I hope the next 2 weeks fly by!! Will you be testing at 10dpo at this stage?

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:13 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed for both of you!!!

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:16 AM
Wow lol!! Wish I had the same enthusiasm :) so excited for you two I hope the next 2 weeks fly by!! Will you be testing at 10dpo at this stage?
Lol, today's had to be a J&D though. Probably. I'd like to say 'I'll wait but tried that last cycle and it didn't work lol.

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:27 AM
Think I may still be in the process of Oing though. My whole lower abdomen is just one big cramp lol.

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:33 AM
Lucky you got lots of swimmers in the pool so to speak :):) Maybe it's the 2nd egg!

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:42 AM
Lucky you got lots of swimmers in the pool so to speak :):) Maybe it's the 2nd egg!
Yeah... but one side wouldn't make my whole abdomen cramp, would it??

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:44 AM
I don't know do you normally only gets cramps on one side then? Maybe they're both popping at the same time?

Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 06:45 AM
I am swaying boy. Everyone gets so nervous but IUI swaying boy but I'm proof you can still get a girl. I had read the book Inconceivable and was doing a lot of what she did and she had a girl as well. I had a pretty low protein diet and I was eating only fruit in the morning. I'm not sure why, that's just what she did.

Good luck. I'm only 9dpo and I can't help but look towards next month. Dh is not willing to get fertility help this time and won't try for more than a year so hopefully it happens naturally.


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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:47 AM
I don't know do you normally only gets cramps on one side then? Maybe they're both popping at the same time?

For me the two sides are generally pretty distinct from each other. Generally when I am cramping on both side it's because I need to use the restroom :oops: lol

Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 06:49 AM
Good luck ladies for those testing tomorrow [emoji8]


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TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 06:53 AM
Two - I agree, if you'd don't get pregnant this cycle I've lost all hope in humanity. Also, I had a hard time knowing which side I was Oing from this cycle because it hurt so bad haha. I think though I implanted on R side - that seems to be the most active the last few days. I bet you'll see a temp spike tomorrow!

Purple: waiting for your test!! Did you use the new FRER with the curved handle? If so, that's what I used last cycle and I had two indent lines as well. This time I scoured for the old FRER ones. Praying for a clear BFP for you today!!

Pb: waiting for your test as well! Everything crossed!!! ❤️

I took my other Walmart cheapie this morning and the line showed up a lot sooner than yesterday, but still pretty faint on that. It was only about 12hrs since I last tested with that kind so I'm sure I can't expect too much yet. Just praying and hoping for good news with blood results today!!

purple
September 10th, 2015, 07:00 AM
Purple: waiting for your test!! Did you use the new FRER with the curved handle? If so, that's what I used last cycle and I had two indent lines as well. This time I scoured for the old FRER ones. Praying for a clear BFP for you today!!


I just used a normal one. I'm not sure if we even have the new ones here in Australia. I will update everyone in approximately 12 hours time!!

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 07:03 AM
Two - I agree, if you'd don't get pregnant this cycle I've lost all hope in humanity. Also, I had a hard time knowing which side I was Oing from this cycle because it hurt so bad haha. I think though I implanted on R side - that seems to be the most active the last few days. I bet you'll see a temp spike tomorrow!

Purple: waiting for your test!! Did you use the new FRER with the curved handle? If so, that's what I used last cycle and I had two indent lines as well. This time I scoured for the old FRER ones. Praying for a clear BFP for you today!!

Pb: waiting for your test as well! Everything crossed!!! ❤️

I took my other Walmart cheapie this morning and the line showed up a lot sooner than yesterday, but still pretty faint on that. It was only about 12hrs since I last tested with that kind so I'm sure I can't expect too much yet. Just praying and hoping for good news with blood results today!!


Hooray for another BFP!!! Can't wait until it's dark enough for you to post a pic!!!

Actually I am a little nervous about the # of attempts. In the past, when we have gotten lots of attempts in and "drowned the egg" as I call it, those where BFN cycles. I worry we might have BD'd too much and depleted his count. But I am a worry wart so pay no attention to me, lol. I can't wait to see if there is any affect on the 2nd half of my chart from popping 2 eggs. I've always been curious if it'd make an impact. You can look at twin/multiple charts on FF but have no way of knowing if they were from one egg or more.

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 07:05 AM
I just used a normal one. I'm not sure if we even have the new ones here in Australia. I will update everyone in approximately 12 hours time!!

You are so lucky!! I'm jealous! I very much dislike the new ones for several reasons.

TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 07:35 AM
I agree - I hate the new ones, and not just because of the false positives/shadows.

It's definitely dark enough to post! �� I guess it is a little darker, I just figured it would be really dark considering that yesterday's was with more diluted urine and about a 2 1/2 hr hold. Here they are ; today's on top:
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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 07:56 AM
I agree - I hate the new ones, and not just because of the false positives/shadows.

It's definitely dark enough to post! �� I guess it is a little darker, I just figured it would be really dark considering that yesterday's was with more diluted urine and about a 2 1/2 hr hold. Here they are ; today's on top:
27209

Yes! They are so darn awkward. I mean I can see how maybe the might be beneficial to mid-******ers, but I'm a PIAC'er and they are awkward. The test line is in a weird spot. They are awkward... that pretty much sums up every non-shadow/line issue I have with them.

I. SEE. LIIIIIIIIINES!!!!!!! No ifs, ands or buts about those!!!
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Boysboys
September 10th, 2015, 09:07 AM
Taytum!!! That's a positive!!!!!!!! I'm so happy for you!!

Boysboys
September 10th, 2015, 10:14 AM
DH on Sertraline
Hey guys! My DH is on 100mg of Sertraline. Not for anything serious. He has a stressful job and overbearing boss. We concieved DS2 first month after about 3 months of him being on this medicine. I did a little Google research and there seems to be a good bit about this medication decreasing fertility.

Do any of you have any experience on this medicine or advice for us? I know you can find anything when googling so how much truth is there to this??He had a sperm analysis about 3 1/2 years ago and his numbers were well above average. I know we will give it a couple more months before getting an analysis (he hates it) and he really wants to get off the medication anyway. He HATES being on medicine but at the same time he is very scared to get off of it.

Share away please! ****i posted this In a thread just wondering if you ladies has any information or experience! :)

TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 10:55 AM
I don't know much about that boys, but I hope someone can help you out!

Also, I got a call back from my doctor saying HCG is a 24 and progesterone is 43.6 - which is good I think? Lol. But she was confused and said, "your HCG went from a 4 to 24 and your progesterone from a 24 to a 42." Great...except those are my #s from my last draws respectively?? Lol. Do you guys think I should call back and make another appointment for bloods tomorrow morning or call it good?

Jelliebellie83
September 10th, 2015, 11:04 AM
Congrats Taytum! I can see today's line is darker than yesterday's!

Pbn, I'm not sure when to test or if I should let it ride and see if AF doesn't show up, which should be around the 18th. Since stabilizing after coming off BC, I've been having 35 and 39 day cycles alternating every month. This month's was a 39.

Honestly I'm scared to test bc I'm almost certain it won't happen since it's our first TTC round. I'm expecting to get AF and then keep working on my sway. Mr JB is convinced I'm knocked up because he thinks this is all very simple... And his brother got his wife pregnant in one try, so it's a bit of a silly man competition lol!

Is it time for your test yet? *patiently waits*

Two, I'll be stalking you and can't wait to hear news of your BFP.


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XXforhubby
September 10th, 2015, 11:15 AM
I don't know much about that boys, but I hope someone can help you out!

Also, I got a call back from my doctor saying HCG is a 24 and progesterone is 43.6 - which is good I think? Lol. But she was confused and said, "your HCG went from a 4 to 24 and your progesterone from a 24 to a 42." Great...except those are my #s from my last draws respectively?? Lol. Do you guys think I should call back and make another appointment for bloods tomorrow morning or call it good?

I would make an appointment to have more betas drawn in two days (I'm not sure when the one that was a 24 was drawn). Beta HCG levels at this point double every two days.

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TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 11:43 AM
24 hcg and 42 progesterone was yesterday at 10dpo. The 4 was back in February when I had my chemical and the 26 progesterone was in July. Lol...she was the nurse, not my actual doctor!

Thanks so much XX...hoping it's a sticky bean! I don't know if tomorrow will be enough time to see my #s increase from 3:45 on Wednesday so I may wait until Monday although the wait will kill me

Laurenk1424
September 10th, 2015, 12:08 PM
LOTs of EWCM today so hopefully yesterday's Bday was perfect timing and girl sway!


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Hitmebabyonemoretime
September 10th, 2015, 01:06 PM
OMG Taytum!!! I can totally see that line!!!! Woohoo!!

YESSSS!!!! Mid thread crash I had to stop scrolling to wish you a HuGe congrats!!!



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mommymachine
September 10th, 2015, 02:04 PM
So so happy for you Taytum!!!!!!!!!


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Boysboys
September 10th, 2015, 02:17 PM
Pb, anxious to hear your update this morning! Praying for a line!!!:)

Laurenk1424
September 10th, 2015, 02:52 PM
Okay so as posted earlier... Lots of EWCM today. We BD yesterday ( because the day before was positive and I didn't want to miss it) and I just did my OPK for today and it's super positive. Wth.
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TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 03:16 PM
Lauren, this happens to me too. I'll get a positive and then a stronger one the next day (or so it seems that way). I usually end up Oing a few hours after that. If you're content with your attempt yesterday I would stick with it. You can always wait and see what tomorrow brings! :)

Laurenk1424
September 10th, 2015, 03:20 PM
Lauren, this happens to me too. I'll get a positive and then a stronger one the next day (or so it seems that way). I usually end up Oing a few hours after that. If you're content with your attempt yesterday I would stick with it. You can always wait and see what tomorrow brings! :)

Is it possible that I O the same day of my super dark second positive? In that case, it would make yesterday's attempt great timing right? I wish this were easier to pinpoint lol my chart doesn't seem to help any either. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/a67cf4b8cbd61af7dc8f3419697f30be.jpg


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mommymachine
September 10th, 2015, 03:23 PM
Yes! I hear atomic once say something like whether the LH surge is whispering or shouting it's still heard. So how strong the positive is doesn't matter, you count the first one. So yes you could ovulate today and your attempt is great!


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 03:41 PM
So my test is same as yesterday just a very faint line. This is likely going to be a chemical right? It should have darkened abit by now right? Sorry for all the pics...http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/0f59ed749e7ccf2db875914f98f892db.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/763600532d9bb2a3cc847e46746b7d63.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/2efb434269f3a7855d0e7f26748ad08e.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/1dda24a71c381dbe82d12d36f56ad672.jpg

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 03:47 PM
How many dpo pbn? I can still see it. Hoping and praying and sending sticky vibes xxxxx

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 03:50 PM
9dpo Netti but the line I got at 7dpo was darkest. I can still see it easily on the test irl

atomic sagebrush
September 10th, 2015, 03:59 PM
No, light tests at 9dpo DOES NOT mean chemical and no it shouldn't be "darkening up". the numberr one factor in the darkness of a pregnancy test is gestation and the difference between 7 and 9 days is meaningless. 7 days and 9 weeks, yes you'd see a difference in that time but in one day?? Doesn't work that way. YOu're actually lucky to even GET pos pg tests 9 dpo. The second fctor is the concentration of your urine and it is very likely your urine was just more concentrated the first test day and not the second.

It can of course be a chemical, just that the lightness of the test doesn't mean that. Personally, I strongly urge you guys not to test on 7-9 days past ovulation becuase it does nothing other than stress people out.

Laurenk1424
September 10th, 2015, 04:02 PM
Atomic- any advice on my issue above with the OPKS and timing?


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:07 PM
Thanks Atomic. I just assumed it should be darker lol. I know I shouldn't be testing this early, my common sense tells me not to but my common sense also seems to fly out the window during the 2ww :)

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:09 PM
Lauren you could totally o today with a pos opk. I did this cycle and have on another. You'll have to see what your temp is tomorrow morning to know for sure. And a day before o or even 2 days b4 is really good timing!

Laurenk1424
September 10th, 2015, 04:11 PM
Lauren you could totally o today with a pos opk. I did this cycle and have on another. You'll have to see what your temp is tomorrow morning to know for sure. And a day before o or even 2 days b4 is really good timing!

I'm clueless on charting but I'm trying to learn. What do I need to look for in tomorrow's temp? I want it to go up??


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:14 PM
Yep and it doesn't have to be a huge spike or anything. In saying that even if you get a spike you wont get crosshairs (ff puts in your chart to show day of o) until you have 3 or 4 days of temps over your calculated coverline or close to. Post a pic of your chart in the morning so we can take a look :)

atomic sagebrush
September 10th, 2015, 04:14 PM
Atomic- any advice on my issue above with the OPKS and timing?


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It's impossible for me to keep up with the support threads, I just happened to see the chemical question come in and didn't even realize it was in a support thread. I will go look and answer but under normal circumstances its better to start a new thread and ask me a specific question. :)

mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 04:14 PM
Hi girls, so much going on in here [emoji4]
Lauren I agree with Pbn re OPK, O is 12-36hrs from pos OPK yeah so you will still have a great attempt there and maybe better to leave at one attempt?

Pbn sorry you are in this predicament but fingers are tightly crossed all works out fine for you x



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atomic sagebrush
September 10th, 2015, 04:15 PM
The darkness of your test doesn't mean anything. IT's the first positive that counts, not the darkest. It is absolutely possible to O the day of a dark positive

mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM
It's definitely dark enough to post! í*½í¸Š I guess it is a little darker, I just figured it would be really dark considering that yesterday's was with more diluted urine and about a 2 1/2 hr hold.

Beautiful lines Taytum [emoji4]


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atomic sagebrush
September 10th, 2015, 04:20 PM
The darkness of your test doesn't mean anything. IT's the first positive that counts, not the darkest. It is absolutely possible to O the day of a dark positive

stick with one attempt

Quinn31
September 10th, 2015, 04:21 PM
Hi ladies, I just noticed red on toilet paper and I'm only 9dpo. This would give me a 22 day cycle which is not good! Any ideas why it's short or how to make it longer? I'm usually 26 days.


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
Quinn my cycles are all over the place to. I went from 28-30 days cycle to 23,24,25,26,27 obviously not in that order lol. My luteal phase has stuck around the 12-13 though. Did you o earlier than normal? What is your lt phas usually?

TaytumJ
September 10th, 2015, 04:31 PM
I agree with Mommy - that's one of my favorite atomic quotes! Hoping you O today!

Pb- I still see it as well. Do you think it's just still too early to see the line change/get darker?


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
And Quinn is it bright red like af blood? At 9dpo it could be ib? Usually its pink or brownish but I have read cases where its been red?

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 04:35 PM
I agree with Mommy - that's one of my favorite atomic quotes! Hoping you O today!

Pb- I still see it as well. Do you think it's just still too early to see the line change/get darker?


Edit: I posted without refreshing to see atomic's answer! 😊
I'm hoping so taytum! And I know I shouldn't test tomorrow maybe wait a couple days but I also know I wont :)

Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 04:51 PM
Congrats Taytum beautiful lines!


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Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 04:51 PM
Purple how did you go??


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Quinn31
September 10th, 2015, 04:58 PM
Quinn my cycles are all over the place to. I went from 28-30 days cycle to 23,24,25,26,27 obviously not in that order lol. My luteal phase has stuck around the 12-13 though. Did you o earlier than normal? What is your lt phas usually?

Usually my lp is 11-12 days so 9 is not good!! I'm starting to feel cramps but af probably won't fully start until tomorrow so that's how I'm going to count it. Right now there hasn't been any more blood since the first time and I've peed about 5 more times! I was hopeful it was ib but my skin breakout and cramps tell me it's af. I actually had a 23 day cycle around the time I got pregnant with my first dd so I'm going to try not to freak too much. Any tips for lengthening my lp?


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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:02 PM
Okay so as posted earlier... Lots of EWCM today. We BD yesterday ( because the day before was positive and I didn't want to miss it) and I just did my OPK for today and it's super positive. Wth.
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If you want to stick to 1 attempt do nothing until Sunday (E4D). If you don't care then get to BDing lol.

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:04 PM
Is it possible that I O the same day of my super dark second positive? In that case, it would make yesterday's attempt great timing right? I wish this were easier to pinpoint lol my chart doesn't seem to help any either. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/10/a67cf4b8cbd61af7dc8f3419697f30be.jpg


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If you O today yesterday would be O-1, if you O tomorrow then yesterday would be O-2... so yes excellent timing!

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netti02
September 10th, 2015, 05:06 PM
Quinn i had a 24 day cycle last time with an lp of 10 days. I was in utter shock and im not sure what caused it to happen. Hoping its IB for you though xx

Fingers X pbn sticky sticky dust

I am finally having consistent O pains this AM so if i dont get a positive opk soon ill be shocked lol. Didnt manage an attempt yesterday but i am planning on it today even if i have to beg 😉😂



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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:11 PM
Yep and it doesn't have to be a huge spike or anything. In saying that even if you get a spike you wont get crosshairs (ff puts in your chart to show day of o) until you have 3 or 4 days of temps over your calculated coverline or close to. Post a pic of your chart in the morning so we can take a look :)

What she said lol :)

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:14 PM
Hi ladies, I just noticed red on toilet paper and I'm only 9dpo. This would give me a 22 day cycle which is not good! Any ideas why it's short or how to make it longer? I'm usually 26 days.


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It's possible it's implantation spotting. I wouldn't "freak out" unless you get full AF. That being said, how sure are you of your O date?

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:18 PM
Usually my lp is 11-12 days so 9 is not good!! I'm starting to feel cramps but af probably won't fully start until tomorrow so that's how I'm going to count it. Right now there hasn't been any more blood since the first time and I've peed about 5 more times! I was hopeful it was ib but my skin breakout and cramps tell me it's af. I actually had a 23 day cycle around the time I got pregnant with my first dd so I'm going to try not to freak too much. Any tips for lengthening my lp?


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The only sure way I can think of at the moment (took WAY too many herbs in my time to remember what each does but maybe someone else will remember/know) is Clomid... I'm not counting you out yet though!!

Quinn31
September 10th, 2015, 05:18 PM
It's possible it's implantation spotting. I wouldn't "freak out" unless you get full AF. That being said, how sure are you of your O date?

I'm going by opk so it could be 8 dpo but I had very intense cramps (like my cervix opening which I read happens sometimes when you O). I really don't know since I don't temp. I'm not really dreaming out. Just really disappointed that my cycle is seeming so short which can get in the way of getting pregnant.


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Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 05:28 PM
Usually my lp is 11-12 days so 9 is not good!! I'm starting to feel cramps but af probably won't fully start until tomorrow so that's how I'm going to count it. Right now there hasn't been any more blood since the first time and I've peed about 5 more times! I was hopeful it was ib but my skin breakout and cramps tell me it's af. I actually had a 23 day cycle around the time I got pregnant with my first dd so I'm going to try not to freak too much. Any tips for lengthening my lp?


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Vitex lengthened my cycle so I stopped taking it, but it's also meant to sway pink.


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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:40 PM
Pbn- saved you for last as I wanted to see all your posts/updates before responding. Here is my take on your situation... think I've said it before, not sure though.

Each brand has it's advertised sensitivity level... FRER is 25 I believe. Which means they are manufactured to detect the hormone AT LEAST that early. Many are more sensitive than their advertised sensitvity, for example I got BFPs with my DD when my hormones were less than 13 (2 days before they were tested at 13) BUT... and it's a BIG BUT. Test sensitivities vary below that advertised mark. So one test may give you a BFP with an HCG of 13, but the same brand may give you a lighter test the next day because the test is less sensitive than the prior one. At 7-9DPO my bet would be that THIS accounts for your differences and I don't believe it's a chemical at this point. I am not fortune teller so I can't say what tomorrow will bring, but at this point I am still optimistic for you.

Also, With my DD I thought my lines were never going to get darker... I kept waiting and waiting but it seemed like an eternity before I had a noticeable difference.... and after being tested, my HCG levels were doubling better than expected.

Don't count yourself out yet hun. The fact that you got a BFP so early is a miracle!! It's also STILL very early. The boat may rock, but don't let it throw you overboard ;)

purple
September 10th, 2015, 05:40 PM
Purple how did you go??


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BFN :( I can see the slight shadow indent line or whatever it is, probably what I saw yesterday. Today im 10 or 11dpo so would normally get a visible line if pregnant.

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:46 PM
I'm going by opk so it could be 8 dpo but I had very intense cramps (like my cervix opening which I read happens sometimes when you O). I really don't know since I don't temp. I'm not really dreaming out. Just really disappointed that my cycle is seeming so short which can get in the way of getting pregnant.


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I don't know how you all OPK and not chart. It would drive me batty not being sure when O was, lol. But that is just me, lol. Have you had any more spotting since you posted that spotting had stopped? 9 DPO is PRIME IB timing! Not trying to falsely elevate you hopes... because I don't know that that is what it is. Just trying to equal it out I suppose :) You can be concerned AF is coming AND hopeful it's IB at the same time. It really CAN go either way. I have my :fingers: for you!!

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:48 PM
BFN :( I can see the slight shadow indent line or whatever it is, probably what I saw yesterday. Today im 10 or 11dpo so would normally get a visible line if pregnant.

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What is your normal LP?? Your chart still looks good!!

purple
September 10th, 2015, 05:55 PM
What is your normal LP?? Your chart still looks good!!
12 days but has been 10 once this year but that was an even longer cycle (57 days)

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 05:57 PM
Ok, so paranoia alert, lol. As I posted this AM, my whole abdomen was cramping. That lasted about an hour. My right side went back to normal very quickly, while my left side continued to ache until about 2 hours ago. So, I don't know if my right side just O'd quickly and it took longer for the left or if my right side didn't O at all. I know I shouldn't read so much into cramping but I've always been able to pinpoint O, to a degree, with O pain. The kicker is, and I mentioned it to the US tech and she said it looked good, my right follicle kinda looked weird with an irregular border. So, my wonderful brain is feeding me this story that I only O'd on one side and it's freaking me out because of all the attempts we added in hopes of twins. Gahhhh! Sometimes I hate the way my brain works. Seriously considering a drink to shut it up but I know it's only a temp fix. *sigh* I guess at least we have the best possible odds of catching the egg... even if it's only one :/

Magical22
September 10th, 2015, 06:01 PM
Sorry purple [emoji17]


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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 06:03 PM
12 days but has been 10 once this year but that was an even longer cycle (57 days)

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What does your temp usually do prior to AF (for example, many ppl's temps crash just before AF, some ppl's temps stay elevated until after AF starts)?

hopper
September 10th, 2015, 06:20 PM
Woah, I have taken so long to catch up here lol. Lots of activity girls, congrats to the bfps and hoping there are lots more on this thread!

To the ladies waiting on O - best of luck!! I am eagerly and a little enviously following along :)

We are considering ourselves to be out this month unfortunately as I have a work seminar next week and will be away pretty much all week. We are still doing e4d until I have to leave on Sunday but our last attempt was late last night and I don't know if we will have a chance at all on Sunday before I leave! I will be due to O on Mon or Tue which are CD20 and 21. I spoke to my GP about getting Clomid, he doesn't know it would be for swaying purposes so he is having my Day 21 bloods taken next week. I have all the paperwork and he organised for it to be done at another practice as I won't be near enough to go to him. I am completely clueless about all of this but hoping someone here might have an idea - as my cycles are somewhat irregular and I usually don't O until CD21 is it possible that the test might come back that I am not ovulating? Since I will be ovulating only the day or possibly the day before the blood work is done? I asked my GP what course of action would be next and he said he wouldn't like to give me a RX for Clomid in case of hyper stimulation but we can talk more after the results come back.

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:20 PM
Two I've got everything crossed that both sides oed! Can understand your nervousness in relation to attempts if only one side though. Do you know any odds of having both ready to pop and only one does? Or is it more likely they both did? Whats the earliest you could find out? All these questions lol

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:22 PM
BFN :( I can see the slight shadow indent line or whatever it is, probably what I saw yesterday. Today im 10 or 11dpo so would normally get a visible line if pregnant.

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Sorry purple :( fx its just still to early

mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 06:30 PM
Sorry purple x


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mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 06:32 PM
CD30 today, let's hope O happens! I have been playing with my chart and if I change into research mode it's making me 6DPO but really don't believe I have Od yet, we BD again tonight!


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 06:36 PM
fx mammacass! Did you have attempts in 6 or so days ago just in case?

hopper
September 10th, 2015, 06:47 PM
CD30 today, let's hope O happens! I have been playing with my chart and if I change into research mode it's making me 6DPO but really don't believe I have Od yet, we BD again tonight!


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Oh fingers crossed! Are you doing OPKs or just e4d?

hopper
September 10th, 2015, 06:48 PM
Ok, so paranoia alert, lol. As I posted this AM, my whole abdomen was cramping. That lasted about an hour. My right side went back to normal very quickly, while my left side continued to ache until about 2 hours ago. So, I don't know if my right side just O'd quickly and it took longer for the left or if my right side didn't O at all. I know I shouldn't read so much into cramping but I've always been able to pinpoint O, to a degree, with O pain. The kicker is, and I mentioned it to the US tech and she said it looked good, my right follicle kinda looked weird with an irregular border. So, my wonderful brain is feeding me this story that I only O'd on one side and it's freaking me out because of all the attempts we added in hopes of twins. Gahhhh! Sometimes I hate the way my brain works. Seriously considering a drink to shut it up but I know it's only a temp fix. *sigh* I guess at least we have the best possible odds of catching the egg... even if it's only one :/

Fingers crossed its both sides two! Have that drink and try relax, hoping you get your twins (with at least one DD ;))

hopper
September 10th, 2015, 06:49 PM
BFN :( I can see the slight shadow indent line or whatever it is, probably what I saw yesterday. Today im 10 or 11dpo so would normally get a visible line if pregnant.

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I have never gotten a line before 13dpo so everything crossed this could still be your month purple x

mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 06:59 PM
We have been doing E4D so all covered Pbn ;) if I really did O already then BD would have been O-2.

Hopper I haven't been using OPKs as I tried first time ever last cycle and never got a positive due to Oing so late and running out of tests lol not at all confident with them so figured E4D easier [emoji4]


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 07:11 PM
Hopper I hope you get your Sunday attempt in :) and I would think your blood test would say you haven't oed if you haven't oed yet? I had the test done some time back and on cd21 and i thought that's because previously I had oed around cd14 and the test needs to be done days after o? Maybe I've got it wrong but I would've thought if you o later then you should have bw done later ifkwim

purple
September 10th, 2015, 07:11 PM
What does your temp usually do prior to AF (for example, many ppl's temps crash just before AF, some ppl's temps stay elevated until after AF starts)?
I think it either crashes the day before or the day of O. I guess I'm not out yet but not hopeful.

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hopper
September 10th, 2015, 07:33 PM
We have been doing E4D so all covered Pbn ;) if I really did O already then BD would have been O-2.

Hopper I haven't been using OPKs as I tried first time ever last cycle and never got a positive due to Oing so late and running out of tests lol not at all confident with them so figured E4D easier [emoji4]


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E4d is infinitely easier ;) I never get +opks when using them cause I know I am stressing about getting them lol so I just won't be using them at all!

hopper
September 10th, 2015, 07:40 PM
Hopper I hope you get your Sunday attempt in :) and I would think your blood test would say you haven't oed if you haven't oed yet? I had the test done some time back and on cd21 and i thought that's because previously I had oed around cd14 and the test needs to be done days after o? Maybe I've got it wrong but I would've thought if you o later then you should have bw done later ifkwim

Thanks pbn! Would love to get an attempt in then, I think the timing would be excellent but with no family nearby to mind the kids and neither of them napping anymore (sob!) I doubt we will get a chance! Be great if we did though!!

Yeah I told him my cycle is kinda longer than average. It's never been 28 days. Was 30 religiously before conceiving the boys but since DS2 it's all over the place going from 24 - 35 days. LP is generally 12ish days though, can't be too sure since I won't use OPKs but going by CM that's what I think it is. I think maybe he will ask me to get another test if that one isn't showing O, I'm sure he will want to see some kind of rise in progesterone. Right? DH thinks the day 21 bw is pointless for me as I 99% sure won't have Oed by then - but then as I said my cycle is all over the place so it IS possible. Have O cramps since Monday but usually feel the first cramps about a week before O so I reckon I won't actually release the egg til next Monday! My progesterone levels will be non existent!

Quinn31
September 10th, 2015, 08:59 PM
Hopper can you set the kids up with a tv show and a snack? That's what we do when we're desperate to fit it in.

I haven't seen any more blood in 5 hours. I feel like this happened once before and I got af a few days later but for now I'm going to remain optimistic that it was ib.


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mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 09:05 PM
Fingers crossed Quinn!!


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Boysboys
September 10th, 2015, 09:40 PM
Thanks pbn! Would love to get an attempt in then, I think the timing would be excellent but with no family nearby to mind the kids and neither of them napping anymore (sob!) I doubt we will get a chance! Be great if we did though!!

Yeah I told him my cycle is kinda longer than average. It's never been 28 days. Was 30 religiously before conceiving the boys but since DS2 it's all over the place going from 24 - 35 days. LP is generally 12ish days though, can't be too sure since I won't use OPKs but going by CM that's what I think it is. I think maybe he will ask me to get another test if that one isn't showing O, I'm sure he will want to see some kind of rise in progesterone. Right? DH thinks the day 21 bw is pointless for me as I 99% sure won't have Oed by then - but then as I said my cycle is all over the place so it IS possible. Have O cramps since Monday but usually feel the first cramps about a week before O so I reckon I won't actually release the egg til next Monday! My progesterone levels will be non existent!

We may O the same day! :)

Atomic responded to my thread. She said the the anti-anxiety med DH is on (due to high stress job, nothing crazy!lol) can decrease fertilty BUT people concieve on it. She also said with him being on it so long it may sway girl. Not going to lie, kinda bummed to have that added worry but we will see what the next couple of months bring and go from there.

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 09:49 PM
Two I've got everything crossed that both sides oed! Can understand your nervousness in relation to attempts if only one side though. Do you know any odds of having both ready to pop and only one does? Or is it more likely they both did? Whats the earliest you could find out? All these questions lol

I have no idea... and as far as when I'd find out... the only way I'll ever know is if I get preg and find out we are expecting twins...

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 10:04 PM
Sorry I meant as in scans - is the usual 6 week scan the earliest they can determine if there's twins? I'm guessing so in hindsight lol

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 10:14 PM
Fingers and toes crossed two 😉 i must admit even with 4 boys if i had twins this time around, deep down I would be ecstatic especially if they were gg twins 😊 we wouldnt be able to even up the playing field but it would be nice. In saying that poor DH would be kicked out of the car its only 7 seats 😂


Finally my opk has a line 😅😅😅 i cOuld cry. All that O pain with an exhausting end to my shift paid off. Its not as dark as control but i think tmro is very likely maybe later tonight. DH better be on board 😁


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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 10:16 PM
Yay Netti! Glad to see your opks finally darkening!

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 10:21 PM
Pbn- I consulted Dr. Google and these are NOT from the most reliable sites but was all I could find.

Supposedly...
A follicle greater then 17 mm (mine were over 20) are supposedly for sure going to O.
If 2 release, I supposedly have up to a 15% chance of twins... as low as 5%

but again, not the most reliable sources :/

ETA: I am also seeing ppl say that they were told that not every mature follicle results in an egg...

:shrug:

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 10:24 PM
Just wanted to ask should i test later tonight or leave it til tmro?

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Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 10:25 PM
Not bad odds then. I still think I'd almost die if I fell with twins lol! My boys have been so so painful today I could literally pull my hair out of my head and arms and face and everywhere else lol. I actually feel a headache coming on :( and I rarely get headaches

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 10:27 PM
Just wanted to ask should i test later tonight or leave it til tmro?

Mum to 4 Boys awaiting her Princess
if you've got a couple I'd test both or if your down to one I'd test tomorrow :)

netti02
September 10th, 2015, 10:30 PM
Ill do both 😊

Would you believe I tried the chemist aka pharmacy 😂😂 and they were $7 cheaper than woolies. So i know where to go next time if i need to. But im hoping these are the only ones i need i have 6 left

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twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 10:36 PM
Sorry I meant as in scans - is the usual 6 week scan the earliest they can determine if there's twins? I'm guessing so in hindsight lol

from answers.com

To see twins, it depends what kind of twins you are having. Faternal twins (Two (2)separate eggs that are both fertalized) can be seen on your first ultrasound, as early as 6 weeks or 4 week if your doctor orders a vaginal ultrasound. Identical twins (One (1) egg that has been fertalized by one sperm, but decides to make 2 babies) can be seen when the fetal pole is present which shows as early as 9 weeks.

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 10:39 PM
Fingers and toes crossed two 😉 i must admit even with 4 boys if i had twins this time around, deep down I would be ecstatic especially if they were gg twins 😊 we wouldnt be able to even up the playing field but it would be nice. In saying that poor DH would be kicked out of the car its only 7 seats 😂


Finally my opk has a line 😅😅😅 i cOuld cry. All that O pain with an exhausting end to my shift paid off. Its not as dark as control but i think tmro is very likely maybe later tonight. DH better be on board 😁


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Lol about kicking DH out of the car :) Thanks!

Good luck catching the egg!! I'll be :fingers: for you!!

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 10:41 PM
Just wanted to ask should i test later tonight or leave it til tmro?

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I'd test again tonight if you have the tests...

twointow83
September 10th, 2015, 10:43 PM
Not bad odds then. I still think I'd almost die if I fell with twins lol! My boys have been so so painful today I could literally pull my hair out of my head and arms and face and everywhere else lol. I actually feel a headache coming on :( and I rarely get headaches

I edited and added more info to last post.

That sounds like a symptom to me!! :fingers: your test is dark enough tomorrow that you can relax a bit :)

Pbn3
September 10th, 2015, 10:56 PM
Thanks two! I'm pretty I'm sure out I cant help but feel that way even though its still early. Glad to be feeling like this in a way as this morning was definately better than the previous morning emotional wise :) doesn't mean I'm still not hoping by a long shot!

mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 11:49 PM
Excited for you Netti, hope you catch that egg!




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mammacass
September 10th, 2015, 11:51 PM
Not bad odds then. I still think I'd almost die if I fell with twins lol! My boys have been so so painful today I could literally pull my hair out of my head and arms and face and everywhere else lol. I actually feel a headache coming on :( and I rarely get headaches

Ha ha I can relate to that feeling with my 3 some days [emoji3]

As much as 4 is my "limit" just quietly I would be stoked with twins also, but would most definitely be hoping for pink ones to even it out a bit [emoji6]


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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 12:02 AM
Oh my god you're all mad!!!!! :):):)

purple
September 11th, 2015, 12:17 AM
Ill do both 😊

Would you believe I tried the chemist aka pharmacy 😂😂 and they were $7 cheaper than woolies. So i know where to go next time if i need to. But im hoping these are the only ones i need i have 6 left

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Which chemist is this (just the chain not you location lol)?
I have seen FRERs online as low as $11.50 a 3 pack. Chemist warehouse and chemist king are both $15 but the ones near me we out of stock so I paid $17 at woolies (plus also the additional cost of having to buy a block of chocolate because it was there lol)

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purple
September 11th, 2015, 12:21 AM
I like the idea of twins but I'm not sure I want them, DH is a twin so he would probably like it.
Also twins means no homebirth for me as it's too high risk.

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essnce629
September 11th, 2015, 01:58 AM
CD1 for me.

Good luck to all those testing and still waiting to O!

mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 02:09 AM
Boo [emoji17] sorry essnce x


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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 02:10 AM
Sorry to hear essnce :(

netti02
September 11th, 2015, 02:54 AM
Booo essnce xx

Purple its shopsmart wholesale pharmacy. They have the digitals 10 pack for $30 atm aswell. Im hoping i wont need them next cycle.

Got our attempt in. It was the most rushed direct bd attempt ever lol. All before school pickup

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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 02:54 AM
I wouldn't call this a sympton but I haven't stopped drinking all day! 2 coffees, a coffee milk, 4 glasses or so of water, 3 cans coke (which I don't really like but try not to drink coke zero during 2ww) and now a hot chocolate!! I need to stop already I want to have really concentrated urine for the morning :(

mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 02:57 AM
Got our attempt in. It was the most rushed direct bd attempt ever lol. All before school pickup

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Magical22
September 11th, 2015, 03:51 AM
Sorry essence [emoji17]

We are in the next cycle together again I'm cd2.

I can't do IUI this month due to school holiday [emoji17] so will just dtd ourselves this cycle with clomid and trigger. Then move straight onto IVF


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ImmiNAddi
September 11th, 2015, 03:55 AM
CD1 for me.

Good luck to all those testing and still waiting to O!

I clicked like for the well wishes Essence and then realised it looks like a 'like' for CD 1 - just thought I'd clarify! Lol :oops:

twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 04:46 AM
CD1 for me.

Good luck to all those testing and still waiting to O!
Sorry :( FX this this will be your cycle

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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 04:49 AM
Sorry essence [emoji17]

We are in the next cycle together again I'm cd2.

I can't do IUI this month due to school holiday [emoji17] so will just dtd ourselves this cycle with clomid and trigger. Then move straight onto IVF


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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 04:59 AM
How was the temp this morning two?

twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 05:05 AM
How was the temp this morning two?
Up but not what I expected. .. though I did take it an hour before normal, but that generally doesn't make a huge difference in my temps.

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purple
September 11th, 2015, 05:09 AM
An hour make a big difference to me. I use a temp corrector but not the FF one since I'm not a vip.

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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 05:12 AM
An hour make a big difference to me. I use a temp corrector but not the FF one since I'm not a vip.

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My sleep patterns are so inconsistent typically that something lile waking early is generally not noticeable. I'm sleeping a bit better this cycle though so I am not sure what impact it might have. I dislike using the temp correcters because they tend to be so extreme.

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mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 05:15 AM
Sorry AF got you too Magical. Hoping for sticky bean for you next cycle x


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mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 05:21 AM
How do you access/use temp corrector in FF?


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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 05:22 AM
How do you access/use temp corrector in FF?


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Data dropdown menu on PC, I believe. I'd walk you through it but I'm pressed for time.

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mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 05:24 AM
No worries two, I will check it out, thank you!


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purple
September 11th, 2015, 06:40 AM
I know your not supposed to use them but I have taken my temp at say 2am then again at 6am and the adjustment works out to be roughly the same temp at 4am. It takes a bit of the stress out of it for me knowing I can adjust my temp if needed.

I have been using this one: MyMonthlyCycles > Basal Body Temperature (BBT) Adjuster (http://www.mymonthlycycles.com/bbtadjust.jsp)

mammacass
September 11th, 2015, 07:20 AM
Thank you purple, I didn't realise we could do that. I usually temp at 6 but there was one morning I did it at 4 as I had to get up and was wide awake (and curious lol) and interested to see what difference it made :) thank you for the link [emoji4]


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TaytumJ
September 11th, 2015, 07:51 AM
I agree with Pbn - you all are crazy! :holysheep: I don'[t even have one, but my desire to have twins is zilch. A friend of mine though was on Clomid and just gave birth to bb twins. They're cute...just not for me! lol.

Two - do you think even a little early would have given you a .03 difference? Sometimes, that makes all the difference on how a chart looks. But, I will say, three days prior to when I actually O'd, I had two temps that jumped just enough to make me wonder, but then had a clear shift a few days later. Weird though you already had a +OPK!

Essence - so sorry. :( Take care of yourself and give yourself a pampering day today!

Pb - Everything crossed you get some more answers soon - I've contemplated buying a CB weeks estimator just to see if my #s are in fact going up!

Purple - everything crossed your temp is up again in the morning and a BFP! I want to see ALL of you in the due date thread!!

AFM - another beta this afternoon, but won't know results until Monday. :worry: BUT, my lines are definitely darker today and my CB says "pregnant!" I've NEVER seen that word before, ladies!!

Also - I think before Clomid I had pretty low progesterone and LPD (one cycle I only made it to 7dpo before AF started and most cycles was 9dpo with spotting before that). On Clomid though obviously it increased my progesterone, but should I be concerned that it doesn't continue to increase throughout first trimester? I'm afraid if Monday's betas look good they won't have me in until 8 week u/s and my progesterone won't continue to increase and I'll end up mc. Or, does Clomid do a nice job of fixing that?

Here's pics from this morning! :)
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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 08:12 AM
I agree with Pbn - you all are crazy! :holysheep: I don'[t even have one, but my desire to have twins is zilch. A friend of mine though was on Clomid and just gave birth to bb twins. They're cute...just not for me! lol.

Two - do you think even a little early would have given you a .03 difference? Sometimes, that makes all the difference on how a chart looks. But, I will say, three days prior to when I actually O'd, I had two temps that jumped just enough to make me wonder, but then had a clear shift a few days later. Weird though you already had a +OPK!

Essence - so sorry. :( Take care of yourself and give yourself a pampering day today!

Pb - Everything crossed you get some more answers soon - I've contemplated buying a CB weeks estimator just to see if my #s are in fact going up!

Purple - everything crossed your temp is up again in the morning and a BFP! I want to see ALL of you in the due date thread!!

AFM - another beta this afternoon, but won't know results until Monday. :worry: BUT, my lines are definitely darker today and my CB says "pregnant!" I've NEVER seen that word before, ladies!!

Also - I think before Clomid I had pretty low progesterone and LPD (one cycle I only made it to 7dpo before AF started and most cycles was 9dpo with spotting before that). On Clomid though obviously it increased my progesterone, but should I be concerned that it doesn't continue to increase throughout first trimester? I'm afraid if Monday's betas look good they won't have me in until 8 week u/s and my progesterone won't continue to increase and I'll end up mc. Or, does Clomid do a nice job of fixing that?

Here's pics from this morning! :)
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No pics. Most docs don't do serial prog in my experience. If you are good early on I'd say you'll likely be fine until baby takes over but you could always ask if you are concerned.

As far as me, I am getting more sleep (but weirdly more tired) this cycle so I don't know because my norm is waking early, up half the night and waking up several times throughout the night so this cycle is a little different than I am used to.

I am about 75% sure I O'd yesterday. Cramping is completely gone this AM (oh and my right side got a little cranky again last night so there might be hope for it too lol). I just think either my temp was affected by the wake up time or my temp just hasn't caught up yet.

As far as twins. My mom was expecting twins (lost them) when I was a kid and I have loved the idea since. And since then I have had experience with a lot of twins and still love them. I will say I would prefer fraternal over identical. Because if you ever watched Full House... the episode where Jesse mixes up the twins... yeah... that'd be me lol. ;)

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XXforhubby
September 11th, 2015, 08:21 AM
Pbn3- increases thirst is always my indicator I may be pregnant, FX!!

Taytum- I'm SO happy for you! I'm sure your betas will be nice and higher [emoji4]! [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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Laurenk1424
September 11th, 2015, 10:34 AM
Yep and it doesn't have to be a huge spike or anything. In saying that even if you get a spike you wont get crosshairs (ff puts in your chart to show day of o) until you have 3 or 4 days of temps over your calculated coverline or close to. Post a pic of your chart in the morning so we can take a look :)

Okay here's my chart... It just seems so jumpy to me... Idk. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/8632cf8c4a92263f27fa029415345702.jpg


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Boysboys
September 11th, 2015, 10:45 AM
Taytum that's a beautiful line! I have a great feeling. How many DPO were you when you got your positive?? I'm so happy for you!

Boysboys
September 11th, 2015, 10:46 AM
Lauren, I haven't O'd yet but my chart is so jumpy it's crazy!!!

Laurenk1424
September 11th, 2015, 10:55 AM
Lauren, I haven't O'd yet but my chart is so jumpy it's crazy!!!

I THINK I O'd yesterday or maybe I am today lol I'm a bad chart reader and I've never had O pain... So it's hard for me to tell. I had EWCM yesterday tho.


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Laurenk1424
September 11th, 2015, 11:04 AM
I saved this chart too.... The one I posted earlier on cd17 I took my temp once at 630am and again at 8am. This chart is from 630am... I just disregarded it because the temp time was so off. Idk which one I should use. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/a0f339b43b811ae5dc90ddf1c3701827.jpg


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mommymachine
September 11th, 2015, 11:54 AM
So sorry Essence:(

Taytum that's a beautiful line!!

I didn't get crosshairs today. I understand why, but I really feel I O'd on CD 13, not CD14. Oh well. What do you ladies think?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/3340a2dc8b7a351059ab73eeb1d696eb.jpg


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hopper
September 11th, 2015, 11:58 AM
Hopper can you set the kids up with a tv show and a snack? That's what we do when we're desperate to fit it in.

I haven't seen any more blood in 5 hours. I feel like this happened once before and I got af a few days later but for now I'm going to remain optimistic that it was ib.


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Oh I wish Quinn lol. Our 19 month old has zero interest in tv and has developed a huge attachment to his dad while dad has been on vacation for the past 3 weeks! He usually doesn't get to see him a whole lot as DH works 6 days most weeks. Hopefully we can figure something though, I am already asking DH to brain storm ways we can be kid free for even 5 minutes lmbo!!

Hopefully its IB Quinn, I'm keeping everything crossed for you!!! :)

hopper
September 11th, 2015, 12:08 PM
CD1 for me.

Good luck to all those testing and still waiting to O!
Sorry to hear that essnce, hoping October is your month!

hopper
September 11th, 2015, 12:12 PM
I agree with Pbn - you all are crazy! :holysheep: I don'[t even have one, but my desire to have twins is zilch. A friend of mine though was on Clomid and just gave birth to bb twins. They're cute...just not for me! lol.

Two - do you think even a little early would have given you a .03 difference? Sometimes, that makes all the difference on how a chart looks. But, I will say, three days prior to when I actually O'd, I had two temps that jumped just enough to make me wonder, but then had a clear shift a few days later. Weird though you already had a +OPK!

Essence - so sorry. :( Take care of yourself and give yourself a pampering day today!

Pb - Everything crossed you get some more answers soon - I've contemplated buying a CB weeks estimator just to see if my #s are in fact going up!

Purple - everything crossed your temp is up again in the morning and a BFP! I want to see ALL of you in the due date thread!!

AFM - another beta this afternoon, but won't know results until Monday. :worry: BUT, my lines are definitely darker today and my CB says "pregnant!" I've NEVER seen that word before, ladies!!

Also - I think before Clomid I had pretty low progesterone and LPD (one cycle I only made it to 7dpo before AF started and most cycles was 9dpo with spotting before that). On Clomid though obviously it increased my progesterone, but should I be concerned that it doesn't continue to increase throughout first trimester? I'm afraid if Monday's betas look good they won't have me in until 8 week u/s and my progesterone won't continue to increase and I'll end up mc. Or, does Clomid do a nice job of fixing that?

Here's pics from this morning! :)
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Taytum those pics are wonderful! So so so excited for you, its so surreal seeing the word "Pregnant" for the first time!! :)

Quinn31
September 11th, 2015, 12:25 PM
Oh I wish Quinn lol. Our 19 month old has zero interest in tv and has developed a huge attachment to his dad while dad has been on vacation for the past 3 weeks! He usually doesn't get to see him a whole lot as DH works 6 days most weeks. Hopefully we can figure something though, I am already asking DH to brain storm ways we can be kid free for even 5 minutes lmbo!!

Hopefully its IB Quinn, I'm keeping everything crossed for you!!! :)

Our 14 month old won't sit still but we give her a snack in her high chair because she loves to eat. It really makes it romantic!! [emoji6]

No more blood but cramps occasionally that feel like af. The pokey kind I've never had when pregnant. I just don't know what it could be. I guess sometimes our bodies are just weird!


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Laurenk1424
September 11th, 2015, 01:50 PM
I saved this chart too.... The one I posted earlier on cd17 I took my temp once at 630am and again at 8am. This chart is from 630am... I just disregarded it because the temp time was so off. Idk which one I should use. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/a0f339b43b811ae5dc90ddf1c3701827.jpg


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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 01:57 PM
So sorry Essence:(

Taytum that's a beautiful line!!

I didn't get crosshairs today. I understand why, but I really feel I O'd on CD 13, not CD14. Oh well. What do you ladies think?http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/3340a2dc8b7a351059ab73eeb1d696eb.jpg


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Based on temps alone I'd say CD 14... but add in the other info and I think 13 looks to be right...

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September 11th, 2015, 02:03 PM
And I have a super super positive OPK again today....


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It sounds like your body is TRYING to o but based on your chart it hasn't succeeded. Sometimes our bodies need a bit more coaxing than normal. Nothing to worry about. Make sure you aren't taking NSAIDs too. Ovulation is an inflammatory process so NSAIDs can sometimes delay O.

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Laurenk1424
September 11th, 2015, 02:05 PM
It sounds like your body is TRYING to o but based on your chart it hasn't succeeded. Sometimes our bodies need a bit more coaxing than normal. Nothing to worry about. Make sure you aren't taking NSAIDs too. Ovulation is an inflammatory process so NSAIDs can sometimes delay O.

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I'm not taking anything.... I'm guessing this means my attempt was probably useless. How am I going to get pregnant this way?


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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 02:06 PM
I'm not taking anything.... I'm guessing this means my attempt was probably useless. How am I going to get pregnant this way?


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Just keep BD'ing E4D and you'll have 1 attempt in fertile window no matter when that ends up being :)

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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 02:49 PM
Lauren you also have a lot of open circles - are you having trouble taking temp at same time daily? Agree with two about moving onto e4d. Me personally I had nothing but trouble and stress trying to use opk test strips - I went to cb dual digital and haven't looked back. I used some strips this cycle because I doubted the digi due to such a minor temp rise but it was right again so if its an option for you why not try them next cycle if this one is unsuccessful?

Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 02:51 PM
Haven't tested yet was trying to get back to sleep but going to go test now fx fx fx!

Boysboys
September 11th, 2015, 03:00 PM
I'm not taking anything.... I'm guessing this means my attempt was probably useless. How am I going to get pregnant this way?


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I agree with pb. Strips drove me crazy! I buy cheapies and when my line starts getting darker I double check with my clear blue digital. I say it's worth the extra money for less stress! I've been preggo twice using them!

twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 03:08 PM
Sooooo, is olive garden's salad dressing a pink fat or blue?? 'Cuz I seriously just snarfed down a whole bowl of their salad and bought a bottle of dressing to-go. :oops:

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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 03:15 PM
So not exactly the confirmation if yay or nay I was hoping for but I feel the line looks darker than yesterday?????http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/b780524492672f18c6d70f4e0cd05abf.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/4b4431b643895ab5bb9ba1686b073098.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/2bd99725eeef99630414dfc80ca86ea1.jpg

XXforhubby
September 11th, 2015, 03:25 PM
Lauren- that is why I don't like, and will not ever use, opks! They were useless for me, because I get 2-3 days of a positive and ovulate 2-3 days AFTER the last one goes negative! Plus, with my BFP cycle I never even got a positive opk! I agree with Two, and I would definitely BD every 4 days!

Pbn3- don't stress over this! I couldn't get a clear positive on a damn test until I reached 21 DPO with DS2! I thought I was losing my mind, because I felt pregnant!!!


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Pbn3
September 11th, 2015, 03:35 PM
Thanks xx I have just one test left a cb digital which I'll wait to use day b4 af due (Tuesday or Wednesday) I took another pic but was half hour after doing test as I think it catches the line abit better lol http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/d833fe4aaa1c36ad42b32becf3bfb738.jpg

XXforhubby
September 11th, 2015, 03:39 PM
Agree. I see it better too. Just try not to stress too much- easier said than done! FX for a sticky bean!!


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twointow83
September 11th, 2015, 05:18 PM
So not exactly the confirmation if yay or nay I was hoping for but I feel the line looks darker than yesterday?????http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/b780524492672f18c6d70f4e0cd05abf.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/4b4431b643895ab5bb9ba1686b073098.jpghttp://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/2bd99725eeef99630414dfc80ca86ea1.jpg
Gotta look at these on my PC after awhile :fingers:

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Boysboys
September 11th, 2015, 06:05 PM
Pb I'm on my cell phone so not too clear but I see a HINT of a line in the top pic. How many DPO again?