UK SMOG Wannabes - November (moved from PL)

[zanacal]

Congratulations Kell!

Babymad - I'm no expert but it looks girlie to me too! Post on the ultrasound guesses board :D

[charlieispy]

spoke too soon - sick sick sick lol

Kell bet you get a girl lol x hope so x

[Babymad]

Congrats Kell that is great news! :0

[maybebabythree]

Hi all saw mw today who pointed out me that I have to see the consultant at each scan! Boo! I need to rebook everything now! She said I was 26 cm which sounds big to me for dates? I don't do big babies! Anything over 7 lbs and I will panic. Also my bp was super low. All looking a bit too healthy right now x

[Babymad]

Babymad - am not very up on nubs and i cant seem to see a good nub so cant guess but CONGRATS on a healthy baby in your belly :D bless you DS's Are they excited?? Have you just told them? Hope you are feeling better x FX FX FX for pink hun

I have been not as sick yesterday and today....so far...been trying to not do as much, of course i then panic that something is wrong! I did ask DS1 if we had another baby what do you think it would be - he said girl, hope he is bloodly right lol x

Inglewood - hope you are ok and managed to rest

Hi Charlie ~ Yes, we told the boys last night :) They seem to have forgotten already lol! Sorry you are being sick today, I am having an awful day too....I just long to go to bed so I can have a break from being so ill!! Has the spotting stopped now?

[Babymad]

Hmm, if its the really white blob then Id say girl ........ I think there is a scan photo guessing board isnt there in here? If not Ingender has one if its still running

Thanks :) I have posted on IG but no one seems to be about......Charliecats etc so a bit disappointed.

[Sunset]

Kell ~ congratulations!!!!!!!!!! wishing you a happy & healthy 9 months! :D

Charliespy ~ eugh for more sickness! :(

Maybebaby ~ enjoy it!! what's better than a healthy pregnancy :)

[Babymad]

Congrats Kell!!! WOOHOO!!

Babymad, I'm not great at nub guesses can't even guess on my own!!! but the wee 'white' bit at the bottom on the baby look like a girl nub. It doesn't seem to be facing up!! So hope so, FX!!!! Will u find out asap?? x

Thanks :) Im not sure whether or not we are going to find out.....with it being our last baby I would like to hold out for a surprise....:)

[Inglewood]

Thanks :) I have posted on IG but no one seems to be about......Charliecats etc so a bit disappointed.

I posted mine amth ago on IG and have only had a few replies , no charliecats either!!

[Babymad]

Maybe ~ Great to hear everything is looking good :)

Thanks for all the girl guesses....wont be shocked or surprised to have another boy but to be blessed with a daughter would be truly amazing :)

[charlieispy]

I feel the same hun x FX for princesses for us :D anyone want a 16month old monster to borrow today?? He climbs, jumps, runs, shreeks and keeps pooping 6 times a day :( love him but struggling right now

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Babymad I think you nub looks girlie if I'm looking at the nub

Congrats Kell on your BFP !

[Kell]

Thanks ladies!

Charlie sorry your still feeling rubbish, a troublesom toddler doesn't help either i'm sure! Send him here, him and my Charlie can cause havoc here lol!

[maybebabythree]

Charlie your 18 month old sounds like my four year old! He's a bit like a naughty puppy!

I think if I worry about this pg then it will be ok and I will get to term, but if I think it alls going to be ok then I will get I'll. Seems weird to be high risk while I am totally healthy. Either way I want a six pound baby - or more than gas and air this time! Done the hippy birth thing twice - bring on the pain killers this time!

[charlieispy]

LOL maybe i had a 6lb15oz baby then an 8lb6oz.....even the midwives were shocked - ds3 was 8lbs so a little smaller although I seem to grow them big here!

[Sunset]

Done the hippy birth thing twice - bring on the pain killers this time!

hahaha same here! only i never have time for pain killers :/

[Babymad]

LOL Girls....

My first two sons were both 8lb 1 and then number three was 9lb 5!!!!! but luckily only needed gas and air for all 3! You'll be fine maybe, I'm afraid theres no guarantee its plain sailing just because they are small ;)

Smaillies in bed and DH and DS1 are footie training so running a hot bath and then bed! Im in bed most nights for 8pm.....I feel so much worse in the evenings i can barely function.

We have started to tell people now......i'm expecting lots of 'you must be mad' crap but hey ho I will just smile! The one thing I won't do and that is justify why I am having another baby....as far as I am aware large families are not illegal!....even they you are made to feel they are by the time you are on number 4!!

Sorry rant over!

Hows everyones attempts going??? Indigo, Deaks, Wishing, Littlemiss, and anyone I have missed (sorry!)

[chocolate]

Hi all saw mw today who pointed out me that I have to see the consultant at each scan! Boo! I need to rebook everything now! She said I was 26 cm which sounds big to me for dates? I don't do big babies! Anything over 7 lbs and I will panic. Also my bp was super low. All looking a bit too healthy right now x

Dont worry too much, my measurements always varied by a couple of cm depending on who measured me!
DS1 was 6 pounds 8 oz's and took the longest to deliver, but DS2 was 8 pounds and was out within 7 minutes of pushing! Im sure gravity is better with heavier babies and makes it much easier, for most anyway.

[Inglewood]

LOL Girls....

My first two sons were both 8lb 1 and then number three was 9lb 5!!!!! but luckily only needed gas and air for all 3! You'll be fine maybe, I'm afraid theres no guarantee its plain sailing just because they are small ;)

Smaillies in bed and DH and DS1 are footie training so running a hot bath and then bed! Im in bed most nights for 8pm.....I feel so much worse in the evenings i can barely function.

We have started to tell people now......i'm expecting lots of 'you must be mad' crap but hey ho I will just smile! The one thing I won't do and that is justify why I am having another baby....as far as I am aware large families are not illegal!....even they you are made to feel they are by the time you are on number 4!!

Sorry rant over!

Hows everyones attempts going??? Indigo, Deaks, Wishing, Littlemiss, and anyone I have missed (sorry!)

I felt worse from 4pm-ish onwards.....since 14wks it's got so much better Thankfully. hope u do too! You shouldn't have to justify how many kids you have, people with 2 kids don't have to justify why they didn't have 1 or 3!!

[deaks66]

Hi all,

Still lots of sickness on here by the sounds of it, feel so sorry for all you pg ladies as i cant imagine looking after 2 or 3 and feeling like crap!

Had a brilliant 2 days away up north... amazing to see my friend and her kids....made me feel extremely lucky to have 2 healthy little boys. What they have all been through is every parents worse nightmare and its not going to be over for a long while yet. And can you believe she catered for my swaying... what a great friend hey?!

Trying to catch up with all your posts but my parents are totally useless at looking after my boys and keeping my house reasonably clean and tidy so have spent hours running round sorting this tip out! Still got a fair bit to do before i can enjoy my fri eve!

Think im cd 14, so attempt time about next wed :)

X

[deaks66]

Dont worry too much, my measurements always varied by a couple of cm depending on who measured me!
DS1 was 6 pounds 8 oz's and took the longest to deliver, but DS2 was 8 pounds and was out within 7 minutes of pushing! Im sure gravity is better with heavier babies and makes it much easier, for most anyway.

I had weeny babies and they were hell to get out!

[HopeandDreamG]

I think I read about the sweets on the low everything plan as a good way to get empty calories, will ask on that post tomorrow. Bit scared of going back on ig as the thoughts on this site sometimes contradicts ig's and don't want to feel unconfident in my plan .... But don't want to miss out on possible great info. Typically we are probably away the weekend of ovulation, good in a way but means I may not have full access to the boards for any help, but its at butlins so lots of country walks etc. Especially as a full moon is due that weekend!

I read on this site they also eat licorice/twizzlers

[charlieispy]

All 3 of my births were unmedicated no gas and air nothing lol x ds1 only because I got to the hospital and was pushing him out then I had done it once I can do it again attitude - i am lucky with pretty quick births though - ds3 a homebirth I knew i was in labour most of the day but established labour was only under 2hours! I kept thinking i had loads of time as my waters hadnt broken WRONG he was born in his waters!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Hmm, if its the really white blob then Id say girl ........ I think there is a scan photo guessing board isnt there in here? If not Ingender has one if its still running

There is on this site. I learned a lot looking, theres also nub shots that show you confirmed boy or girl. And I've been looking for fun...I'm by no means an expert but that looks like a girl! Also based on the forehead!

[Babymad]

Deaks ~ pleased you had a lovely time with your friend :)

I have always wanted a home birth Charlie so very envious!

[HopeandDreamG]

Wow!! Go and eat something really boy friendly now lol, even though you didnt sway the thought of having to do it soonis enough to make anyone crave boy food :-)

I keep thinking that will happen to me this cycle, although used a condom at the end I do think about the pre-ejaculation theory lol

Whats the pre-ejaculation theory? Very curious because my loss (sadly) was a girl, and I was not swaying, I actually was not even TTC and I def got preggo from Preejaculation. I was also losing weight, and DH was releasing daily!

[Sunset]

charliespy ~ ds2 would have been born in his waters, but because he was premature they had to break them to make sure there was no meconium or something like that so the midwife broke my waters just before my last push.. shame since it's considered luck

[indigoviolet]

Another thing- sign up on Ravelry!! Such an incredible place for knitters and crocheters! Millions of patterns and many are free! xo
Sounds brilliant! I'm inspired, will check it out tomorrow, thanks!

[indigoviolet]

Charlie your 18 month old sounds like my four year old! He's a bit like a naughty puppy!

I think if I worry about this pg then it will be ok and I will get to term, but if I think it alls going to be ok then I will get I'll. Seems weird to be high risk while I am totally healthy. Either way I want a six pound baby - or more than gas and air this time! Done the hippy birth thing twice - bring on the pain killers this time!Ha ha, that sounds like me! tried the water birth thing at a birth centre and it was painful!!! next time it will definitely be the hospital and painkillers lol!

[indigoviolet]

ILP- yay! so so nice to see you one here, so glad you found us! :HH: :HH:

Kell- huge congrats on the BFP! wonderful news, hoping you have a H&H pregnancy!

[deaks66]

Kell, just noticed your bfp..... congratulations!!!

[Sunset]

Morning! i've had a very rough night with ds2 being up teething again for 2 hours in the middle of the night and let's not forget my 20 trips to the loo throughout the night. Not sure I will survive today? *zZz* but hey ho, why complain i love being pregnant :)

indigoviolet ~ Do you knit/crochet as well? :)

hope you all have a lovely saturday! :) we're off this afternoon to visit our friends newborn baby :)

[Lavenderlime]

Congratulations Kell! sounds like a good unintentional sway! FX for a DD!

[Inglewood]

Hello! Busy day my DS1 was 9 today!!! Can't believe it. Had a fun day got new xbox game, lots of new books and a Frankie and Benny's for tea. His party is on monday, lazer quest....oh how I long for a girlie party that doesn't involve mad crazy boys being mental!!! lol

Hope ur all well? x

[Babymad]

Happy 9th Birthday to DS1 inglewood! Sounds like he's had a lovely day :)

[pinga]

Congrats kell!!! Fx you got yourself a pink bump!

Inglewood - Lazerquest sounds like a busy day!! :D

babymad - good to hear you had a good scan... although I'm afraid I can't nub guess - I haven't got a clue what I'm looking for!!

Charlie - did anyone answer about the baby position? what is it? Renzi or something like that???? I've always been curious about that - I don't think it necessarily means anything but its fun to try things out!

Nothing too much to report here... it was 36 degrees on thursday. Really too hot for me! I am happier if the max temp is 30! Lovely day today - DH did lots of gardening so its looking lovely out there... we finally got some tidying done in the house. Very boring mundane stuff but I feel as though we achieved something!

I've been meaning to learn to crochet. I can knit - not beautifully but have made a few things. My hubbies grandmother is amazing - she knits the boys the most beautiful little jackets. I'm more into sewing to be honest... although I'm not that great at it...

[Sunset]

Hello everyone! i guess by how quiet it's been on here that everyone is enjoying the weekend :)

Inglewood ~ sounds like your ds1 had a great birthday! :)

Pinga ~ send some of that heat over here!!

Babymad ~ are you still suffering bad with MS?

[maybepink3]

Hi all,
Just popped on quickly whilst DH has taken the boys out to the supermarket. Not been on here for ages, still feeling rubbish and just about coping. Eating every 2 hours (literally) and have put on 1/2 stone already since all that weight I lost of the IG!
Hope everyone is ok. Congratulations Kell on your BFP. About to try and catch up on everyone's posts now.
Love to everyone xxxx

[indigoviolet]

Hello ladies!
hope you are all having nice weekends with your families.
ds1 is swimming with dh and ds2 is having a nap so i'm catching up on stuff quickly. Lovely to have time to myself.

Sunset- no I don't crochet although would love to learn. I started knitting a while ago but just didn't get very far...I prefer drawing, making cards etc.

Petal- glad you are loving every minute with your gorgeous new little boy :HH:

Charlie- how are you doing? How is your little scamp? ds2 is being a real pickle at the moment, not being able to talk yet there is just a lot of shouting etc, it is really hard keeping peace with both boys as they are into such different things at the moment. Hard work!!

Maybe- hope you are staying relaxed and keeping that bp down.

Kell- congrats again, such wonderful news!

Deaks- when are you thinking you will O? I am only a few dpo so we are slowly getting our cycles in sync! Hopefully we can get our bfps together!

ILP- how are you doing hun?

Babymad, TLM, 2monkeys, wishing, lavendar and anyone else I have forgotten:HH:

[deaks66]

Hi all, was trying to get on here earlier while I had time but couldn't get on for some reason. Now I'm in a rush before ds2 wakes so just a quicky!

Got my smiley at lunchtime today (was neg this morning) which is a couple of days earlier than normal :) So am all set for +12 tomorrow eve...yay! So yes indigo, we are nearly in sync!! I tested my ph yesterday and it was 4.3 which is a miracle considering it was ewcm and usually much higher the day before smiley. Perhaps its the acidophilus as I thought I saw a slight improvement last month too. Fx for a bfp for us both this month!

Little miss, haven't seen you in here for a few days... You ok?

Hi everyone else! X

[Kell]

Aww happy birthday to your sOn inglewood!

Deaks good luck with upur sway! And Indego fingers crossed you got it this month! Have everything crossed for your bfp's girls!!

We've had all three boys this weekend! It's actually been quite calm and nice for a change lol! There was an art and craft fair here Saturday, we took them all with Nanny, the boys it to see Santa, and
Reindeer and held an owl! They had a great time! I didn't even get to walk about the show :( it was so busy it was really hard work getting the pram around!
We've also had the older boy cut out bits from the Argos catalogue an make a Xmas list! That was fun!
They are 6&8 and pretty much want the same stuff! Btw if it ever gets a bit confusing me talking about the older boys they are both called Tommy! Me and dp have been friends for 14 years and both had a son from previous relationships, my Tommy is eldest, dp's is youngest! It's confusing at times even for me lol!

I've been cleaning no end this weekend! Getting this bfp has spurred me on to sort our house out, I want it all homely and nice for when baby arrives! Glad I've found something to motivate me lol!

[maybebabythree]

My bp went up to 97 as had ds1 birthday party yesterday and found out dh has spent another £300 on his credit card ( took revenge by transferring all the joint account money into my ISA ) so mad at him! Plus I have been ignoring mil but after her emailing me as if nothing ever happened I replied to her. I told her I look five months gone and have put on two pounds. She asked if I was having twins! I ever anyone was asking for smack in the chops it's her! Everything she does and says grates on me.

[charlieispy]

FX for you attempts ladies Indigo and Deaks and anyone else i have missed x sorry still bleurgh.....much love to all x x

[charlieispy]

hugs maybe - my DH has been a twat with his card again too why do men never learn - i wish it was different and i was the one spending money and him telling me to stop but that is never going to happen i have to be the boring sensible one and do the worrying :( hope you are ok x x Sorry MIL being a cow again x x

[Inglewood]

My bp went up to 97 as had ds1 birthday party yesterday and found out dh has spent another £300 on his credit card ( took revenge by transferring all the joint account money into my ISA ) so mad at him! Plus I have been ignoring mil but after her emailing me as if nothing ever happened I replied to her. I told her I look five months gone and have put on two pounds. She asked if I was having twins! I ever anyone was asking for smack in the chops it's her! Everything she does and says grates on me.

Maybe, my ds1 was 9 yest, is ur ds1's b'day the 19th too???

Sorry to hear ur Dh has been spending again and ur MIL is still being a pain! x

[maybebabythree]

Ds1 was eight on the 10th so we have just been really bad at aranging a party! That's the problem with the boys being born three weeks apart.

Charlie I could seriously kill my husband. I just can never trust him. I have my own savings so it's not bad but I don't want to be the one who saves while he acts like a Pratt. I want do the house up but decided the only way is he pays for that or we go 50:50. God knows what I will do with my savings but he certainly never any benefit from it! I am not paying anything off the mortagae or deposit for a new house or holiday or sod all that he would share in. Might buy a 4x4 and run the idiot over with it. I told him to leave today and find himself another woman who has low esteem and brain functionality like him - but alas he is still here! It's his house too so I can't throw him out lol! Trying to think of some revenge now...

[Kell]

Maybe my oh is the same, some how last month he managed to waste over £500 and I honestly couldn't tell u what he brought! I've taken his bank card off him, it's rediculous!
We don't have any savings at the moment but I've been trying to get some together and he just goes and spends it! He wants to breed our lab this month as well. That's going to cost a fortune but I suppose the financial reward can be good.
I'm not sure about it yet!

[deaks66]

Hi all, just a quicky again...dont know where today has gone!

Cant believe it.... after 10 months of swaying my ewcm finally seems to be behaving itself!!! i got my smiley and my ph is still 4.4-4.6!!!!!! sooo happy as it means that if i cant get pg soon doing 0+12, then i could potentially dtd over ov! Hope it stays low tomorrow too. must be the acidiphilus as its the only thing i am doing differently!!

Maybe- sorry your mil is being annoying still!

Also excited as i bought my secret santa pressie today! i know its a bit premature as i dont know who i have yet but i figured so many of us have similar taste and if i get someone with different taste, i will just have to keep it for myself!!! Btw, sorry in advance for not attempting something homemade!

[maybebabythree]

Kell I have dh cards too. I earnt about £500 in over time last month and now I don't know why I bovered. Makes me feel like I am the stupid one! I could have got a credit card and drawn out £500 with no effort just like him! Thing is I feel guilty spending myself. Must feel nice to be so selfish all the time. I would love to really hurt him but I just can't do it. wish I could just so he knows how it feels.

[maybebabythree]

hmm - whats up with our Nest tickers?

Oh don't get me started on MIL again! How can 2lbs be twins??? serioulsy??? I might tell her I was so concerned about my massive weight gain that I mentioned it to the consultant and he has signed me up for slimming world (you go on that free while PG BTW) with the aim to lose 2 stone before baby is born and I have a apointment to discuss a gastic bypass six months post birth. Just tell the old boot what ever she want sto hear. Not the reality of I probably will not have a normal weight baby even if but on 20 stone as my stupid placentas never work. And why would I want to take parenting advice from a woman who raised a man who can't live within his means an another who can't keep his d*ck in his pants??

Again..... gggrrrgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kell]

Oh gosh she sounds awful maybe!
I didn't know you could go on sw when pregnant? And for free? How do you find out about this?

I'm the same as you about spending on myself! I always buy for the kids before I even think about myself! This month I brought a small storage chest of draws for our hall way, that's as close as I'll get to buying myself anything! But yes I did feel guilty!

[maybebabythree]

I have read it on babycentre. Not sure what your BMI has to be to qualify. The NHS has a healty eating drive on so maybe the budget for the grant they scrapped was put towards this? Sounds like a good idea as I think the aim is to be weighed weekly and to eat healthy and maintain weight rather than dieting with the aim of losing weight.

I might ask about it when I see the midwife again, but as I have to be scanned to make baby is growing every six weeks I think they would turn me down. Unless keeping the flab down helps with my BP?

[nuthinbutpink]

Did you guys get tickers from the nest/the knot/bump? Their site is having issues and your siggies pull from their site so that is why you are seeing that huge graphic. I cannot remove it because you have added it to your signatures.

[Lavenderlime]

Evening all,

Hope everyones had a good weekend and all really suffering with MS are getting by/better.:)

Deaks big yay for your amazingly low PH! That's great news, Good luck for your attempt.:)
I'm looking into ordering some digitals OPK's and was wondering how many do you tend to use in a cycle? As I only want to buy 7 as trying to not spend too much next month on swaying bits as have the Xmas present shopping to do so want to know if that will be enough for one attempt. I'm thinking that If I use the cheapies too the most i'll need is pos up to 3 digis in on cycle, does this sound about right?

[Lavenderlime]

Did you guys get tickers from the nest/the knot/bump? Their site is having issues and your siggies pull from their site so that is why you are seeing that huge graphic. I cannot remove it because you have added it to your signatures.

Thank you for looking into it!

[indigoviolet]

Gosh Maybe, that is NOT what you need. What a stress...hope dh can see the error of his ways. I know what you mean about getting revenge, that's the only way I can feel better about an unfair situation. And your MIL, why can't she just keep her comments to herself, just infuriating, people should just think for a second before opening their mouths. Hope you can put her out of your mind, she is not worth it.

[nuthinbutpink]

Thank you for looking into it!

Well, thank you for asking because I really try to stay on top of things and it freaked me out at first when I saw it!! I hope when their site is back, the tickers correct. If not, they can get one from another site.

[deaks66]

Evening all,

Hope everyones had a good weekend and all really suffering with MS are getting by/better.:)

Deaks big yay for your amazingly low PH! That's great news, Good luck for your attempt.:)
I'm looking into ordering some digitals OPK's and was wondering how many do you tend to use in a cycle? As I only want to buy 7 as trying to not spend too much next month on swaying bits as have the Xmas present shopping to do so want to know if that will be enough for one attempt. I'm thinking that If I use the cheapies too the most i'll need is pos up to 3 digis in on cycle, does this sound about right?

I think you could definately get away with one pack. I use cheapies til they fade in and then when they are getting dark, use the digitals with fmu and if neg use cheapies the rest of the day until you think they are positive and then confirm using same urine with digital. X

[maybebabythree]

Nbp I think I will remove mine until it's fixed. Thanks for the help

[Inglewood]

The same thing happend with the ciggies on PL, they were fine the next day! I'll wait a day or 2.

Deaks, great about the acidophilus! Good for ur tummy too, lots of healthly gut flora!! ....I think it helped me too! My Ph was good on it and when it was a bit low (ph3) I cut to 2 tabs or I'd never of got pg!! My ewcm was nil the mth I fell pg too, so GL and FX!!!!!!

DH and I having an internet baby name hunt night. So hard to choose 1 nevermind 2!! lol

Hope u have all had a good weekend? I have with Ds1's bday and today we had a tidy/DIY day. Tom is ds1's party after school, that will be fun. x

[Inglewood]

Did you guys get tickers from the nest/the knot/bump? Their site is having issues and your siggies pull from their site so that is why you are seeing that huge graphic. I cannot remove it because you have added it to your signatures.

It's happened before for a few hours one day, should hopefully resolve once they update their page. x

[charlieispy]

up early for work x x

maybe - i think you should keep saving then if in a few years he is still being an idiot emigrate lol! I have some savings that DH doesnt know about but hardly anything as I dont earn much but it makes me a little bit happy ;)

[deaks66]

Inglewood, happy belated birthday to your ds1 and I hope he has a great time at his party! Cant believe how good the acidiphilus is! I have only been taking 2 tabs so far but if not pg this cycle might take an extra next cycle and bd through ov....only if that helps dry up the ewcm as I still have a fair bit!

I can imagine how hard finding 2 names must be... Though I have several for a girl but a boy would be tricky!

How is everyone today? Hope the sickness isn't too bad for those suffering!

[Sunset]

Did you guys get tickers from the nest/the knot/bump? Their site is having issues and your siggies pull from their site so that is why you are seeing that huge graphic. I cannot remove it because you have added it to your signatures.

it happens every now and then with the the nest fruit tickers and lasts for about a day and then they go back to normal

[Sunset]

DH and I having an internet baby name hunt night. So hard to choose 1 nevermind 2!! lol



*pressing an imaginary like button*

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ good luck with your o+12? is it today? :D

Maybebaby ~ so sorry to hear your dh has been spending money again :( so not what you need right now!

morning to everyone else! :)

[Kell]

Inglewood my dp has already even talking about names! I wouldn't mind but we only found out three days ago! It must be difficult trying to think of two!

Deaks, fingers crossed for the big bd! Lol! Hope you join me in a couple of weeks!

Breeding our dog is costing a fortune, so now I can't do any Christmas shopping until next pay day which is 20th dec oh joy! I hate it when oh gets an idea in his head like this, there is literally no telling him and no stopping him either!
So looks like a bit of rush on for me this Christmas urgh

Well must get on a walk the dog! Have a great day!

[Lavenderlime]

Morning all.

Thank you Deaks i'll just get one pack for my first cycle. Only 3 weeks to go!

Inglewood are you looking for twin names like say Sarah and Sophia, Maisie and Molly or just two names say Esme and Freya?
Def must be so much harder thinking of two, but fun too!

Charlie have a good day at work, when I used to work at Costa i'd do the 6.30 a.m shift which I quite liked because It ment I got to leave at 2pm and you got all the regulars in. Hope your feeling a little better and not too long to wait until your private scan!

Ds1 is back at pre school today. Which is lovely, I love him dearly but it's nice to have a break!

[deaks66]

Yep o+12 tonight. Think im ov about now as got pains and cervix getting quite soft. Hoping it will go higher soon too!

Sunset, did you get my gd email? i never got notified of yours a while back so hoping you have mine... dont worry if just too much on to reply...just hoping you got it!

Kell, what kind of dog do you have? I bet breeding is hard work but good fun too! We have an airedale but she wont be having any puppies!

[Kell]

We have a black lab, she's lovely and Id like to have one litter but it doesn't have to be right now, I've never bred before so this will be a new and probably difficult experience! But the rewards will be good so that'll keep me going!

[deaks66]

ladies, how important do you think the post bd douche is? cant decide what to do if anything after my o+12! really dont want to do a large amount 1-3ml but not sure its worth doing a small amount of douche or acigel either. hmmm decisions!

[Babymad]

Hard to say Deaks, best to go with your preference, I douched with ds3 but it does work for lots of people so go with whats right for you. GL x

Hardly had any sleep last night and been at work all day so feel dreadful, wish it would get easier :(

[maybebabythree]

BABYMAD - Sorry your still feeling ill. I am back on the tiredness and heartburn stage - blurrgghh!!! Was falling asleep at work today. My team lead asked how I was, so I told her and she didn't reply (why ask? when my blood boils due to stress I am off work anyway to be admitted to hospital). I could do with time off, feel pooped!

Tried not eat extra today but have decided that nots going to work as I need to keep my energy up. No point putting on the lowest amount of baby fat just to crash on the way home! I dearn't check my emails in case MIL emails me. I think I will say to her that no one else has said I am big, but that probably as its rude to say and most people are too polite - unlike her...

haha! Still in a bad mood. This one might last a while I think

[Kell]

Gosh think you need a break maybe! Could you possibly take a couple of days holiday to re energise?

Deaks, maybe just test it out with a douche, I wouldn't have been able to
Use them as I am prone to bv, but I would have used represh to keep my ph constant! Do what you thinks best for your body!

[Babymad]

I agree with Kell, take a few days off Maybe and have a rest. Just ignore your MIL, that will annoy her more! I wish my body liked being pg, its so hard, being a working mum of 3 being so bloody sick but I know it will be worth it so focusing on the end result!!

[deaks66]

Babymad, sorry you are feeling rough. Was the lack of sleep ds's related or pg related? It will definately be worth it in the end :)

Maybe, you really sound like you are going through it at the moment. I definately dont think you should not eat as that will make you feel rubbish... and avoiding the emails from MIL definately worth while if she hasnt got anything friendly to say.

[Babymad]

Lack of sleep is pg related Deaks, I really wish I had something positive to say but my body really doesn't like being pg :( I've always felt quite cheated that I cant enjoy being pg like others do. it's such a special thing after all. I can't get to sleep for ages then I always wake about 5am and struggle to get back to sleep, had the same with my other pg's so shouldn't be surprised!
GL with your attempt tonight, has the shift in cm happened? Hope all goes well. :)

Hope everyone else is ok :)

[deaks66]

Poor you babymad! i also do not enjoy pg like other ladies do. With ds2 i felt like i couldnt breathe properly for 4 months which made me really panicky. I wander if there's anything you can do/take to help you sleep...something herbal maybe?

Think the shift is slowly happening. Not got as much ewcm which is good though it means im struggling to test my ph as a small blob never gives me as low a reading as a big amount! My opk went neg sometime between 1pm and 6pm so im wandering if this side of midnight might be a bit early. Gonna keep monitoring and avoid testing ph til 9pm and hope i have a big enough amount then. Last cycle i dtd 40hrs after i first noticed +opk (and that was a quick ovulation by my standards) so 40hrs this time would be 4am tomorrow. Gonna aim for more like 36hrs which would be midnight bding!

[zanacal]

Good luck deaks x

[indigoviolet]

Good luck Deaks!!

[indigoviolet]

*pressing an imaginary like button*
still missing that 'like' button, I need it ALL the time!

[chocolate]

Good luck Deaks!!

[indigoviolet]

Right ladies, I am compiling the final list for the secret santa and pm everyone with the person they have got to get a present for at the end of the week, then we will have a couple of weeks to shop/ make and still be time for it to arrive before Christmas. Most of us are already on the list, if you want to be included just give me a shout, the more the merrier!

TLM- I'm sure you are in, do you want to write a little note about the kind of colours, shop, style you like to help your secret santa?
Chocolate, Karo, Kell, Maybepink3, 2monkeys, Petal, ILP, are you interested? Obviously no pressure at all, just don't want anyone to get left out! :)

[deaks66]

Thanks for all the luck! X

[chocolate]

Well the af is here!!! And confirms another 9 day lp .......... have posted a thread for advice, but does anyone know anything about LP defects and what treatment is available? Particularly by UK doctor guidelines?

So here is CD1 eek!!


PS - sorry Im out for Secret Santa, thanks though xx

[charlieispy]

good luck hun x

huge hugs to the pregnant ladies suffering :( babymad - hope you manage to get some rest although i know with 3 boys that pretty impossible x

maybe - 2lbs is nothing to put on some people put that on each week x ignore MIL and buy yourself a treat for all your hardwork!!

EEeeeeeeeeeeeekkk for secret santa although at the mo my present may not be top quality the way i am feeling :S

[deaks66]

chocolate, i am on progesterone crinone for my lp defect. It is a cream in an applicator that you insert into the vagina. I find it best to insert at bedtime as then it doesnt leak out (i tried using it in the morning and it was disgusting!) and by the time the morning comes, pretty much all of it has been absorbed. You have to clear the remnants out of your vg every few days but again this is a small price to pay for a lp that goes from 9 to 13 days! hope that helps. I went to my docs and said i had been charting for months and said i have an lp defect and that i had heard progesterone helps. They didnt seem to query me at all. Annoyingly i forgot to take mine last mine :(

[deaks66]

Still waiting for dh to get home to bd! This is when swaying becomes stressful!

[chocolate]

Yep, the pressure!! Run a nice boiling hot bath lol, then get out some lavender oil/lotion and give each other a massage to chill out :-)

[Kell]

Good luck tonight Deaks!
Chocolate go to the doctors hun there's plenty they can do for short lp!

I'm going to give secret Santa a miss this time, sorry! We are pretty much scraping pennies this month after dp spending grr! And I am about as useful at making things as a chocolate fire guard!

My boobs are actually killing me! And they have grown huge amounts! I love the bigness not so sure about the pain!

[maybebabythree]

Good luck deaks x

[chocolate]

chocolate, i am on progesterone crinone for my lp defect. It is a cream in an applicator that you insert into the vagina. I find it best to insert at bedtime as then it doesnt leak out (i tried using it in the morning and it was disgusting!) and by the time the morning comes, pretty much all of it has been absorbed. You have to clear the remnants out of your vg every few days but again this is a small price to pay for a lp that goes from 9 to 13 days! hope that helps. I went to my docs and said i had been charting for months and said i have an lp defect and that i had heard progesterone helps. They didnt seem to query me at all. Annoyingly i forgot to take mine last mine :(

Thanks so much for that info, Id have no idea! So how do you clean it out lol? Do you think the suppositories are better than the cream you can rub into the skin? How long would you continue using it for?
Also, can you still use replens and other supps like Saw Palmetto, and zinc and asprin?

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Hi indigo I did post my likes a while ago but I'll do it again no problems !! fav colour is purple style shabby chic Cath kidston style fav shop tk max charity shops eBay etc just line a good rummage !!

[Sunset]

still missing that 'like' button, I need it ALL the time!

I do too!! :)

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ GOOD LUCK :D

Babymad ~ i can't believe you're having such a hard time with the MS and insomnia :( i really hope it gets easier for you soon

Charliespy ~ still suffering? :( the first trimester really is dreadful isn't it.. ((HUGS))

Inglewood ~ How are you doing in your pregnancy? is the MS gone?

I'm busy revising for my theory test these days which is booked for monday next week :p eek! wish me luck ladies! :D

[charlieispy]

yes - still sufffering i said to DH today I just pray everything goes ok with this baby as I dont think I could do this again EVER although today is the first day in 2 and a half weeks i have had 3 meals!! Usually its nothing near but then I am now worried that I should still be sick...silly i know x also constipated as I cant drink anything either sexy times!

[pinga]

Really struggling to keep my 2 boys entertained while I just want to lie on the couch and feel sorry for myself. I feel like such a bad mother when I keep resorting to the TV! Its just not good to watch so much TV!! Eeek don't know how those of you with 3 boys are managing!

Seems like quite a few sick people on here at the moment. I can't remember when it usually stops for me... :P

Deaks - hope attempt went well...

Money is such a pain at this time of year. We're coming up to 6 weeks of school holidays so I won't be earning for a while! The only problem with emergency teaching!! We're hoping to get down to the beach for a week in January. Might consider camping...

Anyhews - bye for now...

[Petal]

Hi all,
Hope you are all well and the morning sickness coming to an end for you babymad and charlie!
Aww your little baby looks perfect babymad, bet your lovely boys are thrilled!! My first instinct says girl too :-)) that dark line looks like the nub but not too clear.

We are all doing well, bf going ok, bit sore but trying to carry on. Baby O is such a good little boy, from the moment he was born our bond was just instant, i feel sooooo guilty for all those bad feelings i had when i found out he was a boy, i just love him soo much :-))

Will try and pop on here more often lol. How are the twins doing inglewood?

Love to you all x x

[Petal]

Ps, ill give the secret santa a miss this time, sorry to be a party pooper but id probably forget to get something, its taken me over a week to post some ebay stuff i sold lol x x

[Lavenderlime]

Good Luck sunset i'm sure you'll do really well on the theory test, have you been practicing on the computer with one of those disks?

Charlie yay for the three meals! How about wheatabix if you can stomach it for a fibre boost?

Pinga sorry you still aren't feeling great, My boys hardly watch any TV at all in summer as they are always outside but in winter they end up watching quite a lot and DVD's because of the weather and early evenings and general winter hybernating. Don't know what i'd do without it, it means I can actually get the house work done and cook dinner etc! Don't feel bad.

Chocolate not long until TTC exciting!! Hope you get some help from the Dr's r.e LP.

[Kell]

Awww petal do glad your little man is good! Don't feel guilty about your dissapointment your motherly love right now more than makes up for a small wobble!

I have to agree with lavender on the telly thing, Pinga if your boys are anything like mine even if the tv is on they are not necessarily watching it, they tend to play with toys and watch inbetween fighting with action figures!

I've got an appointment with the doctor Friday and then get to book in for my booking appointment with the mw! I'm thinking about joining sw now as well, but I'll speak to them about it first!

[Wishing4Pink]

Deaks - got my fx that this month is your month, good luck

Good luck with your test Sunset!

So sorry you pregnant ladies (charlie, babymad, pinga) are feeling rubbish still. I really hope this stage passes soon for you all. Good luck to those who are also attempting soon

x

[Lavenderlime]

Nice to hear from you Petal!

Sorry to hear BF is sore I did a BF course after DS1 to become a bossom buddy and learnt that normally this is down to positioning and latch.

The basics that can really help to remember when latching on is tummy to tummy, nipple to nose and to wait until they route and open their mouth really wide before allowing them latching on.

I hope you are getting some support from your midwife, it's worth asking for them to check for tongue tie if they haven't already. So lovely to hear about the newborn love!! How do your boys like their little brother!?

x

[deaks66]

Thanks so much for that info, Id have no idea! So how do you clean it out lol? Do you think the suppositories are better than the cream you can rub into the skin? How long would you continue using it for?
Also, can you still use replens and other supps like Saw Palmetto, and zinc and asprin?

Hi all,

Chocolate, i just clean the progesterone out of my vg by inserting finger and running it around pulling out any clumps. Sounds gross i know but its really easy and helps prevent a build up. I cant exactly remember why this needs to be done... i think the build up can delay af if she is going to come anyway. I think the crinone is supposed to be better than the prog cream you can buy online because it is stronger and works immediately. And its supposed to be better than the suppositories that you can get on prescription as its less messy. You use it everyday starting a couple of days after ov (to be sure ov is over) until either af arrives or if bfp (fx!) arrives you use it for whole first trimester i believe. Im pretty sure its fine to use alongside the supps you mentioned but worth double cheacking with a doctor. GL!

[deaks66]

Petal, so lovely to hear from you, i just love that immediate bond with a baby! But like lavender said i hope you are getting good support from your mw!

I did my attempt at about 11.30 last night. Just a straightforward abstinance of 9 days and o+12 with zyrtec a couple of hours before and slight propping of hips after. i didnt bother with any lime or acigel but my ph has been quite low throughout ov and although i didnt have much to test at the time, the tiny glob i could get was ph 5 which usually means for me that my ph (if i could get a bigger amount to test) would have been low 4's. I had a tingley feeling around my ovaries for the hour afterwards and really felt like i had caught the egg....FX!!!! My temp was massively up this morning so hoping i got my timing just right. Was 36 hours after first opk. PLEASE PLEASE LET THIS BE MY MONTH!!!

[chocolate]

Hi all,

Chocolate, i just clean the progesterone out of my vg by inserting finger and running it around pulling out any clumps. Sounds gross i know but its really easy and helps prevent a build up. I cant exactly remember why this needs to be done... i think the build up can delay af if she is going to come anyway. I think the crinone is supposed to be better than the prog cream you can buy online because it is stronger and works immediately. And its supposed to be better than the suppositories that you can get on prescription as its less messy. You use it everyday starting a couple of days after ov (to be sure ov is over) until either af arrives or if bfp (fx!) arrives you use it for whole first trimester i believe. Im pretty sure its fine to use alongside the supps you mentioned but worth double cheacking with a doctor. GL!

Thanks Deaks, so did you get prescribed the crinone or did you buy it? Id rather get something from the dr incase I need to go back to them for extra help/advice, they may get a bit annoyed if I just buy something to use instead of following their advice.

I wondered if AF would be delayed longer than the average 14 day lp.

PS- sounds like a great attempt! Fingers crossed



Petal, glad your so in love with your baby, thats what I felt like with DS2 after feeling a bit deflated in pregnancy after hearing 'boy' but so glad in the end I just had so much love for him. Now I can relax next pregnancy knowing the bond will come regardless of gender.

[Sunset]

Petal ~ it's so lovely to hear from you! i was actually thinking of you this morning and wondering how you're enjoying the baby days :) and i agree with Kell, you shouldn't feel guilty for how you felt when you first found out, all that matters is how you feel now :)

Deaks ~ glad your attempt went well, and it sounds like you got the perfect timing :) good luck in the 2ww! i've got my fx for you!!

Charliespy ~ fx you start to feel better soon!!

Pinga ~ don't feel guilty for letting your boys watch tv, your MS won't last forever and soon you'll all be back to doing fun stuff :)

Lavenderlime ~ I lied, my theory test is not on monday but on wednesday next week :p i got it confused with a growth scan i've got on monday.. yes i've got the disk which is brilliant! :) I do feel ready for my test so hopefully i should pass first time :)

AFM i had a midwife appointment this morning which went great. My baby is measuring ahead which has never happened to me before, but my midwife reassured me it can fluctuate :) i really don't want to push out a "big" baby lol

[deaks66]

Thanks Deaks, so did you get prescribed the crinone or did you buy it? Id rather get something from the dr incase I need to go back to them for extra help/advice, they may get a bit annoyed if I just buy something to use instead of following their advice.

I wondered if AF would be delayed longer than the average 14 day lp.

PS- sounds like a great attempt! Fingers crossed



Petal, glad your so in love with your baby, thats what I felt like with DS2 after feeling a bit deflated in pregnancy after hearing 'boy' but so glad in the end I just had so much love for him. Now I can relax next pregnancy knowing the bond will come regardless of gender.

I was prescribed the crinone as i too felt like i wanted soemthing from the dr incase i needed help or advice. Its also a REALLY expensive medication so to purchase it online would cost a fortune each month!

Sunset, masses of luck for your theory! It will make life so much easier for you when you can drive. Glad also that mw appointment went well, and im sure the size if baby doesnt have a massive bearing on how hard it is to push out. My little ones are impossible whereas my friends 10oz came out no probs!

Beginning to feel like i dtd too early last night as my temp seems low again, but then i know i shouldnt compare temps at different times. Its hard as i always wake it a bit overly cosy in my bed but i suppose if thats always the case then its still consistent. The thing thats annoying me is my cervix feels slightly soft again but i guess again that these things vary. I was sure if had gone from soft to firm last night. Cm is definately creamy now so im hoping its just my body playing silly tricks and that my attempt was ok. At least my ph has been lowish through ov do for the first time i can say that timing shouldnt matter as much!

[charlieispy]

lol lavender just reading weetabix made me heave i dont do cereal as i hate milk!! (can only drink it in a milkshake or latte!!)

[charlieispy]

Petal, so lovely to hear from you, i just love that immediate bond with a baby! But like lavender said i hope you are getting good support from your mw!

I did my attempt at about 11.30 last night. Just a straightforward abstinance of 9 days and o+12 with zyrtec a couple of hours before and slight propping of hips after. i didnt bother with any lime or acigel but my ph has been quite low throughout ov and although i didnt have much to test at the time, the tiny glob i could get was ph 5 which usually means for me that my ph (if i could get a bigger amount to test) would have been low 4's. I had a tingley feeling around my ovaries for the hour afterwards and really felt like i had caught the egg....FX!!!! My temp was massively up this morning so hoping i got my timing just right. Was 36 hours after first opk. PLEASE PLEASE LET THIS BE MY MONTH!!!

I got butterflies straight after DTD and knew we had done it x hope this is the same for you :D

[charlieispy]

deaks your temps wont be true at all except at the same time (roughly) after sleeping x dont panic am sure you have done ok you will have to wait till tomorrows temp x x try and chill x x

[Inglewood]

yes - still sufffering i said to DH today I just pray everything goes ok with this baby as I dont think I could do this again EVER although today is the first day in 2 and a half weeks i have had 3 meals!! Usually its nothing near but then I am now worried that I should still be sick...silly i know x also constipated as I cant drink anything either sexy times!

Charlie, fybogel worked wonders for my constipation in the first few mths!! Nasty taste, but did the trick! Were u sicky with boys??

[Inglewood]

Petal, so lovely to hear from you, glad ur enjoying being a new mummy again and hope the Bf eases!! He's super cute!!! I BF ds1 for days, Ds2 for wks and was planning to do it this time, but not sure I could hope Bf twins!! They are doing fine thanks, enjoying my 2wkly scans, get lots of pics!! Might find out on 29th nov the sex, if not 13th dec!!

Sunset, GL for ur theory test!! and can't believe you under 2mths to go now! eek, so exciting...x

Deaks, sounding very promising!!! FX this is ur mth!!!!

AFM, had a nasty bug or food poisoning from eating out sat for ds1's b'day, was so bad had to get dr to prescribe anti-sickness meds for 24hrs, it was so much more intense than my MS... spent all yest with D+V and missed ds1's b'day party!! :( I was that bad, vomiting and running to the loo every half hr!! Feelng better today, although had to get some root treatment at dentist. Not a great past few days, hope that's the end of it all now.

Hope u ladies suffering from MS are better soon!!

Off to get boys at school with my big swollen face!!! lol

[charlieispy]

Charlie, fybogel worked wonders for my constipation in the first few mths!! Nasty taste, but did the trick! Were u sicky with boys??

oooh thanks hun text DH to tell him to get something stronger!! I was sick but not this bad - maybe its being more tired but I had to run to the loo just making packed lunches this morning :(

So sorry to hear you have been so poorly hun thats awful x hope you are feeling better now and your tooth is ok too x bless you

[maybebabythree]

Didn't go into work today as didn't feel great and I woke up at12 so must be worn down. Bp came down today as well. Was reading about prem baby stats last night and decided after that I need to slow down.

Petal glad your loving the newborn stage again! Our hospital runs a great bf clinic - I never found it easy but luckily I did stick it out for six months. X

[Kell]

Lol Charlie I'm like you I hate milk, I can have it in cereal but literally enough to coat it, I pour the excess away! Could never drink it as milk shake or in a drink at all! I don't mind cooking with it tho coz I'm weird! Lol

Inglewood god you poor thing! Hope your ok! Rest up!

Maybe same for you hun, you obviously need the sleep!

Today I've had horrendous cramping! It really felt like contractions in early labour! Just decided id take it easy and chill out with ds2 so that's exactly what we've done!
I'm hoping it's just further implantation or something, and not a bad sign!

[Lavenderlime]

Lol sorry Charlie thought it may be a bit of a stomach turning suggestion I have to be in the right mood for weetabix as it is as the texture soon becomes that of baby food if you don't eat it quickly enough. but I don't mind milk but I would in no way drink it as much as I am at the moment out of choice!

Maybe take it easy.

Kell hope your right and it's just that. Nice to hear you and ds2 had a nice chilled day together.

Inglewood that sounds awful you poor thing and a trip to the dentist on top!!

Deaks FX this is your month!

Littlemiss we miss you on here hope your ok?

[Inglewood]

Lol Charlie I'm like you I hate milk, I can have it in cereal but literally enough to coat it, I pour the excess away! Could never drink it as milk shake or in a drink at all! I don't mind cooking with it tho coz I'm weird! Lol

Inglewood god you poor thing! Hope your ok! Rest up!

Maybe same for you hun, you obviously need the sleep!

Today I've had horrendous cramping! It really felt like contractions in early labour! Just decided id take it easy and chill out with ds2 so that's exactly what we've done!
I'm hoping it's just further implantation or something, and not a bad sign!

Kell, my cramping during all my pg was so so bad I was scanned early each time!! Try not to worry, the first twice I was told it was the corpus lutem cysts that pg women get causing the pain, 3rd time was told it must be a deep implantation... I was told to take it easy, so called in sick fora couple of wks. xx

[Inglewood]

BTW, I have around 2mths supply of Pregancare tabs free to a good home! They didn't agree with me at all with my gastritis and it's a shame to chuck out about £9 worth of them. Don't want P&P for all it would be, just Pm me. xx

[chocolate]

Inglewood, that sounds like my worst nightmare, hate being sick, especially to that extent, and then have the dentist!!

Kell I have felt cramps etc. intensifies with each pregnancy, hope it gets better for you.

We have decided to get a cleaner for 2 hours a week, OH is working overtime 3 nights a week so those 3 days I have no help at all for anything, and weekends he is knackered and doesnt look after the kids while I clean so something had to give. Had a quick de-clutter and wipe around lol, cleaning for the cleaner, but so looking forward to not stressing.
This month is just so fab for me, work has eased (I childmind) and no longer need to do the school run the end of next month so thats a huge plus if I am pregnant by then. I am getting 2 massages, nails done, hair cut in an actual hairdressers, a night out, and 3 nights to butlins ............ I never do any of that lol!! All in aid of ttc for a girl, cant complain about that even if the next is a boy lol

[Babymad]

Petal ~ Lovely to hear from you :) so pleased baby is doing well and well done with the BF! I wish I was in ypur boat and baby had arrived, cant tell you how much im wishing the wks away! I looked at my other scan pics of the boys and DS3's nub shot is very similar to bubs so defo thinking boy :)
Dont feel guilty hun, we cant control our feelings, im so pleased that you have bonded so well, enjoy your little man :)

Sunset ~ Pleased your app went well :) is your bump quite big now? GL with your theory test :)

Indigo ~ Do you need me to pm you my address? Hows your attemps going? Are you doing the diet etc?

Inglewood ~ So sorry you've been ill, its never ending! Take care and lots of rest.

Charlie ~ I really miss milk!... Especially cereal, I cant keep anything down but cheese sandwich and shortbread buscuits!!

Kell ~ Hope the pain eases soon

Maybe ~ Enjoy the rest :)

Sorry if ive missed anyone!

Ive got to take DS3 into hosp tomorrow for an operation on his feet, dreading it! :( He's only 3 and seems far too small to be put to sleep.

[deaks66]

Hi all,

kell, how are you feeling? hope the cramps are a good sign.

Inglewood, sorry you have been feeling so ill, glad you are over the worst of it!

Babymad, its nice being able to look back and compare previous ds's ultrasound shots with a new bub. My two looked identical in their (very clear) photos. And bizarrly the sonographers for each one at 20 weeks commented on their perfect skull shapes (aaaar!)..... it was a bit deyjavu! And now ds2 is looking less babyish i can really see how similar they are in looks! Anyway, i still think girl for you :)

Have been wollowing in my own worry today...as appears to be normal after my attempts! did i do this right, did i dtd too soon....but feeling bit better about it now!

Charlie, i remember now you saying about the feeling of butterflys and having got it! Very similar to what i felt.... though more like a tingling somethings happening feeling down there!

Anyway, hoping that all this ms eases for you all very soon! oh how i wish to be joining you!

indigo...any signs yet??

[Babymad]

Thanks Deaks :) I do love looking at all the scan pics. The obsessing soon kicks in ;)
Sounds to me like you had the perfect attempt and with your ph being low what a perfect month to get a BFP! Everything crossed for you xx

Must try abd get some sleep now as got to be at the hosp for 7am!
Night all x

[indigoviolet]

Petal- so lovely to hear from you hon. So glad that little O is being such a wonderful baby and that you have bonded so well. Gives us all hope that if and when we get pg with boys it will all be fine :) :HH: loads of love to you and your lovely family!

[maybebabythree]

Good luck babymad. Be strong - he is in good hands x

[indigoviolet]

Babymad reminded me that I need everyone's addresses! I can then send you all the name and address of the person you have to get a present for! This is going to be fun!!

[indigoviolet]

Maybe's post reminded me about your little boy babymad, i totally agree with her, he is in the best hands and it will be fine, totally understand you worrying though (((hugs))) and prayers for it all to go smoothly and successfully.

[Inglewood]

Babymad, hope his op goes well? thinking of him, bless. Let us know how things went when u can! The only things I could eat was also Shortbread and cheese on crackers. Hot water was all I could drink.....how strange we both were the same! x

[charlieispy]

i must try hot water as i am struggling with liquid of any type - hence ice lollies!! Bless you babymad - i am also on a cheese bread diet - but has to be toast with a sliced (from a pre sliced pack....!!) piece of cheese in the middle. Although tonight i just managed an egg sarnie...no butter....no mayo just egg and bread!

Hope the op goes well x x huge hugss x

[deaks66]

oh yes babymad, i totally forgot when replying, i hope your ds's op goes well. never nice seeing them go under but im sure he's in great hands! Will be thinking of you! x

[Inglewood]

i must try hot water as i am struggling with liquid of any type - hence ice lollies!! Bless you babymad - i am also on a cheese bread diet - but has to be toast with a sliced (from a pre sliced pack....!!) piece of cheese in the middle. Although tonight i just managed an egg sarnie...no butter....no mayo just egg and bread!

Hope the op goes well x x huge hugss x

Charlie, a friend of mine also told me to try really fizzy lemonade, not diet. Also helps u go to the loo?? apparently?? I drank that hot too!! She has 5 kids and is sick for 9mths solid!! So any advice she gave me helped. The hot water really made a difference too, wouldn't normally drink it but go back to it even now when feeling sicky.

[pinga]

Petal - good to hear from you! Enjoy this lovely cuddly newborn stage... makes me feel excited to hold my own new little baby...

Deaks - fx you caught that egg!!!

Inglewood - wow - it won't be long til you find out the sex! With all those scans you'll definitely see something soon!!!!!! Very exciting...

I was watching One Born Every Minute last night - the US series. We've only had the UK series so far so this was really interesting!!!! They said they have an epidural rate of 90%! I was amazed! Also they seemed to offer drugs a lot more readily. It was fascinating to see the differences! Oh and all the women had their babies lying on the bed with legs in stirrups!! I would NOT like that. I'm going for the same as last time, if there are no complications, which is kneeling on the floor next to the bed! Worked wonderfully! I want gravity on my side.

Had my blood test this morning for my 12 week scan Combined Screening test. DS1 was up right close watching the needle and blood coming out. :P I can't look at it!!!!

Anyhews - hope everyone is travelling well...

[Kell]

Baby mad hope ds's op goes well Hun!

Pinga, I've watched obem USA and didn't really like it as much as the uk one, I think it's because of all the epi's you barely even know most of them are in labour!

Is it weird that I like to experience the pain? With ds1 I went into hospital when my waters was only 1cm and they wanted to send me home, I ended up being sick so was kept in given paracetamol and sleeping tablets as they were adamant I wasn't having him, 4 hours later alone and half asleep I very nearly gave birth in a lift and his dad only just made it to the birth as they sent him home!
I barely remember details and felt gutted about how things went! Ds2 birth was amazing! I felt every contraction, didn't feel cheated out of labour and want exactly the same thing this time if possible!
I don't have a problem with epi's at all! But I do think it's far to over used in the us. Rant over lol!

Deaks hope your sway gives u a bfp!! When is af due?
I'm feeling much better now, the cramps carried on for a few hours but have settled down now, still feeling very normal to be honest!

[charlieispy]

Going to go and get some licorice today too x blah i feel pant in pain from not going for so long :(

Babymad - hope all goes well x

Kell - glad the cramps have stopped sounds like beanie was burrowing in x

and....8wks today :D slowly getting there :D

[deaks66]

Going to go and get some licorice today too x blah i feel pant in pain from not going for so long :(

Babymad - hope all goes well x

Kell - glad the cramps have stopped sounds like beanie was burrowing in x

and....8wks today :D slowly getting there :D

Oh Charlie, you poor thing! Trying to think of that medicine you can take for constipation but can't for the life of me remember the name. Wander if you can take it when pg??

Kell, so glad your cramps have settled. Take it easy as possible today Hun.

Indigo, any symptoms yet?

[Sunset]

Babymad ~ good luck today! i hope your sons op goes well! but like the others have said, he's in good hands! :) keep us posted, i'll be thinking of you!

[Sunset]

I've loved reading through all your posts this morning and I found it very interesting that so many of you don't like milk :p I Love milk!! at the moment, I alone, go through about 4-5 pints of milk a day.. it's scary! and the boys love their milk as well so in total we go through about 7 pints a day! I think it would be cheaper for us to just buy a cow and have in the garden lol

Home&health have lots of american birth programs, but i always prefer the english birth shows much better simply because like you all say, you can hardly think the american women are in labour lol I've done natural hippy births twice and i really, really want an epi this time, but i know it's not gonna happen because my labours are so quick and the midwifes are so freaking stubborn "just try a little while longer and see how it goes" "but you're doing so well" "just work through another few contractions and see how you cope" Bla bla bla bla...

[Sunset]

Deaks ~ i don't think you need to worry! you did a great attempt and it seems like you timed it perfectly too! you should definitely feel happy with your attempt :)

Charliespy ~ yay for 8 weeks! :D it'll fly by i promise and soon you'll be 30+ weeks and wonder where the time went :p

[chocolate]

Babymad, hope its all quick for today xx. Charlie, I had fibregel in pregnancy for constipation, and I also took some sweet liquid stuff from the chemist that worked as a laxative, def. See your doctor and ask at the chemist as iended up with piles and it was horrendous. I had cold sweats from the pain of it after giving birth to DS1, but with DS2 I only had it mildy and didn't need to take anything. They prescribed me anusol cream and suppositries too, lovely lol!

[Kell]

Sunset lmao at the midwife's you defiantly did do well! I only had paracetamol with ds1 not through choice I can tell ya! But with ds2 I had morphine it was amazing stuff lol!
In thinking maybe a water birth this time! That way when I am a mw I can talk from experience about it!

Wow Charlie 8 weeks already! Cooking nicely now!!

[chocolate]

Well I had the drs today to try to get progesterone cream as lp is 8 days ish but she said no but would refer me onto the specialists again. I'm cd3, is it too late to start B6 and does anyone know what dose? Do not want to go down the specialist route as I'd feel bad for swaying.

[maybebabythree]

Kell I wanted to labour next to bed with ds2. I had a newly grad midwife who was all for it but a senior midwife who came in last min said no so I ended up on my back! Had no choice in the matter. I have only gas and air but the stomach straps due to high blood pressure. I am with sunset - I want a epi as I can't move about as I have to be a metre from the monitor. I have felt everything twice so sod that. Either way I can't move about

[Sunset]

Kell I wanted to labour next to bed with ds2. I had a newly grad midwife who was all for it but a senior midwife who came in last min said no so I ended up on my back! Had no choice in the matter. I have only gas and air but the stomach straps due to high blood pressure. I am with sunset - I want a epi as I can't move about as I have to be a metre from the monitor. I have felt everything twice so sod that. Either way I can't move about

I totally agree with this. With ds1 i was free to move about and labour was so much easier because of that but with ds2, because he was premature i had to "lie still" with the straps on my belly throughout labour! when the midwife told me i wasn't allowed to move i burst out crying and told her there and then that i wouldn't be able to cope through the contractions "lying still", but she was still adamant i didn't need any painkillers. And trust me ladies, i am NOT repeating that!!!!! sure, as long as i'm free to move about i can handle a drug free labour, but i'm just not doing it if i have to be confined to a bed.. there is simply no way! and i've never for some reason been allowed to labour next to the bed even though i always try and tell them that i don't want to lie on my back for the delivery part... do they listen? no! if baby stays put to full term and i don't have time for an epi or get stuck with a stubborn midwife again then my other choice would be a water birth since you're more free to do as you please then through the birthing process, it's not like the midwife is going to jump in the pool with you.

[Sunset]

Kell ~ are you training to be a midwife now? water birth is my second choice if i'm not allowed the epi or there's simply no time for one.. it would be a lovely experience.

chocolate ~ I cant believe she's not willing to prescribe you progesterone. did she say why? i don't understand why some gp's would do it without thinking twice and others refuse to, it doesn't make sense! for b6 i would recommend no higher than 150mg.. and if you get a tingly sensation in your fingers then drop it down to a 100mg

[maybebabythree]

Sunset - are you doing a birth plan? I didn't with ds1 but since then I add the things I don't want to happen from the last birth. Like having a midwife push my leg onto the bed when it doesn't stretch that far and being stiched up no pain killers! Told dh has to tell them to stop this time! Thing is I can cope with the pain, but why should I have too?

[indigoviolet]

Sunset - are you doing a birth plan? I didn't with ds1 but since then I add the things I don't want to happen from the last birth. Like having a midwife push my leg onto the bed when it doesn't stretch that far and being stiched up no pain killers! Told dh has to tell them to stop this time! Thing is I can cope with the pain, but why should I have too?
Too right! You have it your way this time!

[indigoviolet]

Going to go and get some licorice today too x blah i feel pant in pain from not going for so long :(

Babymad - hope all goes well x

Kell - glad the cramps have stopped sounds like beanie was burrowing in x

and....8wks today :D slowly getting there :DYay, 8 weeks already! You will start to feel normal soon (ish) there is light at the end of the tunnel!

[indigoviolet]

Thanks to everyone who has sent me their addresses already, this secret santa is going to be fun!

[indigoviolet]

No signs yet, thanks for asking Deaks, I'm pretty much convinced I'm not pg this month and am already planning for next month! you never know, we did DTD so it's not impossible!

[Inglewood]

Hi all, hope ur all well today? Thankfully I am so much better, no appetite but not feeling sick! Fx stays that way.

Spend most of the morning watching 16 and Pregnant, the USA series. Watched one where a 16yr old girl had twin girls and lived on her own after separating from her Bf, kept thinking......"if a 16yr new mum can do it, I might be ok".....lol
Think I am starting to feel some proper movements?? Although only put on 4lbs in 17wks, so not like me, usually have put at least half a stone by now and everyone keeps telling me I don't look pg! worrying me! My mum says it's because I have lost 2 and a half stone and people are used to seeing me a bit 'heavier' anyway???

Deaks, I have good vibes for you this mth!! FX

Babymad, hope op went well for ur little guy! x

Charlie, prune juice? Fybogel? coffee? things that have worked for me b4! And yeah for ur wee Raspberry!

Indigo, Fx you never know!!

All you birthing plan ladies....with ds1 I was for pain relief and absolutely NO epidural!! Turns out I needed a spinal (similar) and emerg c-section... felt a failure for weeks after till I realised we were both healthy and that was all that mattered! ds2 I was on the same wave length....again unplanned c-section 3 days b4 due date (medical reasons)! And 3rd time, no choice...c-section! But I'm cool with it all now, Dh thinks he's the luckiest man alive not having to go thru labour/childbirth!! men!! lol Were having the 'snip' converstaion at the mo, not for now, but he's 35 and I'd like him to consider it for the future, but he's not up for it!!! I don't want sterilsed during my twin section, think it's too much for my body, esp if they come as an emergency. And I think after 3 sections and a laparoscopy I've done my bit!!! Hoping after they are here he'll change his mind as I can't take the pill and the coil was a nightmare with my cervical erosions.

Hope u all get the births you want as it's an impt part of bringing our babies into this world and stand up for what you believe in and what you want!!! Go girls!! xx

[Inglewood]

Well I had the drs today to try to get progesterone cream as lp is 8 days ish but she said no but would refer me onto the specialists again. I'm cd3, is it too late to start B6 and does anyone know what dose? Do not want to go down the specialist route as I'd feel bad for swaying.

I had tingling like sunset mentioned and I started at 150mg, cut to 100mg and still had them, so take with care. What I had was rare, very few people on here seem to have had it as I asked about when I had it. x

[Sunset]

Maybebaby ~ with ds1 i wrote the most detailed birth plan ever as an attempt to feel in control and prepared, but as most people know after having had a baby or 2: birthplans never go to plan lol i ended up in theatre with a retained placenta and needed a spinal and everything is pretty much a blur so i don't think anyone even as much as looked at my birthplan. with ds2 i did what you said and wrote a birthplan, stating everything i didn't want to happen (experiences from my first labour etc) but then ds2 decided to come early and that was it, my birthplan was out the window.. so this time i'm not gonna bother! i will probably take a piece of A4 paper and write in bold laters "EPIDURAL PLEASE" and stick that on the front of my hospital notes and that will count as my birthplan haha

Indigoviolet ~ good luck! i didn't realise you're in the 2ww! fx for a bfp!

inglewood ~ it must be nice to "know" what to expect this time with the CS.. at least you've been through it before :) what is the recovery like?

[DoulaMama]

Hope u all get the births you want as it's an impt part of bringing our babies into this world and stand up for what you believe in and what you want!!! Go girls!! xx
Because I just can't read the birth stories without saying something(it's the student midwife in me!!!) I have to second Inglewoods comment! If you don't want to lie down to push your baby out...DON'T LIE DOWN! They cannot physically move you. Just refuse to move:) Midwives know how to catch a baby on the toilet, in the shower, on all fours...they are just being lazy and the whole protocol thing just requires them to do things a certain way. I was at a birth once where the mama did not want the Dr. to pry his fingers between baby's head and perineum(she was adamant on this and it truly doesn't need to be done)when she was crowning. He did anyway...She kicked him off of his stool, clear across the room! LOL! I think maybe he'll listen a bit better now;) Im not saying to get violent...LOL ;) Anyway, birth your babies however you feel is right. You are the one going home to live with the experience for the rest of your life! Be informed and stand up for yourselves! xoxo Much love~

[maybebabythree]

Lol dola mama I felt like kicking my midwife in the face as she started sticking with no pain relief. She told me they can't numb skin but lo and behold - turns out shecould. I didn't do a birth plan ford ds1 just as well really as that all went to Pot. I wrote a bit for ds2 and that was stuck too. So all I want this time is pain relief. Someone who knows what they are doing to sticth me up not too fussed about birthing position but if I have to be on the heart monitor and on my back then I need more than gas and air! I am not too demanding - whatever happens it going to bloody hurt!

[chocolate]

Never heard of the tingling sensation, thanks for the tip! I took 50mg lunchtime, and fine, may try another 50mg of b6 tonight, will do a quick google for info first.

The dr didnt say much, I basically said my lp is short can I get prog. she said well once you are pregnant the lpd wont matter so I said but I read that there may not be enough time for my lining to thicken ready for implantation, to which she sort of said 'hmm' as if she didnt know. Thats when she said she can refer me on lol

[maybebabythree]

Chocolate - can you see another doctor at your surgery?

[DoulaMama]

Lol dola mama I felt like kicking my midwife in the face as she started sticking with no pain relief. She told me they can't numb skin but lo and behold - turns out shecould. I didn't do a birth plan ford ds1 just as well really as that all went to Pot. I wrote a bit for ds2 and that was stuck too. So all I want this time is pain relief. Someone who knows what they are doing to sticth me up not too fussed about birthing position but if I have to be on the heart monitor and on my back then I need more than gas and air! I am not too demanding - whatever happens it going to bloody hurt!
Yeah...if there is medical need for you to be lying down and strapped to monitors(can I ask why they need this...? Just being nosey;)) then it is unfair to ask a mom to just grit her teeth and bare it. A woman was meant to move and sway and do whatever feels right in the moment...not lay down on your back! Do we see any other mammals giving birth on their back? None!!! Anyway, I totally agree with what you're saying and same goes for induction. If there is a medical need to induce, pain relief is usually needed as it is unnatural and the pain is 3x as bad! Oh and I cannot believe she stitched you without pain relief!!!! OMG! I needed stitches with my first baby and I have to say that the stitching was worse than the birth...and I had no pain relief on board either. I hope you have a fabulous experience this time! You just put your foot down and start demanding!!! :D xo

[chocolate]

Chocolate - can you see another doctor at your surgery?

I could but to be honest now that Ive been referred they will say wait for that appointment, Ill just have to give b6 and ttc in the meantime and hope for the best

[deaks66]

I could but to be honest now that Ive been referred they will say wait for that appointment, Ill just have to give b6 and ttc in the meantime and hope for the best

Chocolate, i hope the b6 works for you! definately push for the progesterone (weird how my gp gave it to me without a seconds thought!) as it will really do the trick. I start mine tonight (2dpo - despite what ff reckons) and i really hope there is a little bean-to-be in there that it will do the trick for!

Im definately pro-epi! had one with ds1 and it was the only thing that got my through the following 2.5 hrs of pushing as i would have struggled to do that after hours and hours and hours of pain. Didnt have it for ds2 despite begging! There was enough time for it, they just didnt get their arses in gear! With dc3 i too will write in large letters on the front of my maternity reconds i reckon! Funny though, inlike any of you, i actually deal with contractions better by lying down on my back! Its such a personal thing and i hope we are able to give birth the way we want!

Indigo, keeping everything crossed for you!

Inglewood, hurray for not feeling sick today!

Hi everyone else!

[charlieispy]

For me my birthplan has always been very bare and minimal - with ds1 I think i just wrote no epidural, and for DH to cut the cord. For DS2 I was induced but didnt let them strap me down and got a pretty ok birth for induction. My best birth was ds3 a homebirth and then my birthplan read, no epi, let the cord stop pulsing, dh cut the cord and skin to skin. I really hope I can have another homebirth ds2 was meant to be one. 2 hours after giving birth I had my baby asleep beside me and a wagamamas on my lap BLISS. I know I am lucky to have had good births so far - but I must say I dont think i could ever give birth lieing on my back I would kill someone lol I have always been on all fours but holding onto something - hospital bed in the sitting up position and at home I used the sofa to lean on.

[charlieispy]

Inglewood - I just wanted to say I LOVE YOU i feel so much better today and I think its mainly down to be able to drink - hot water works thankyou thankyou thankyou if you were here right now i would hug you!!!! I have the sweet syrup stuff from the chemist - DH is a pharmacist so he brought it home yesterday hoping it kicks in soon. Just want to get to my next scan and know baby is ok as still spotting :(

FX for all waiting for you BFP and lots of belly rubs to the pregnant ladies and lots of hugs to those on the diet x x

Just read a post on FF of a lady who is expecting her 4th boy....she is devastated - i could only think that will be me soon.....not that i feel i will be so devastated this time just an acceptance of no pink princess ever ever

[Inglewood]

inglewood ~ it must be nice to "know" what to expect this time with the CS.. at least you've been through it before :) what is the recovery like?

The best thing will be knowing 'what day' they will be here this time! My 1st c-section being a 1am drama was tough and I learnt so much from it during the recovery as you forget it's Major Surgery after all. having a urinary catheter after for 24hrs and a new baby to carry was odd! With ds2 being semi-planned (6 days b4 due date) I was calmer and I knew what was ahead, but I was worrying more about the spinal than the actual section!! Made Dh come in and hold my hand!!! lol But didn't make the same mistakes after ds2 like rushing around thinking I could walk 2miles to the post office to pay my road tax like I did with ds1, getting there in agony, braking down in tears and calling a taxi home!! It's a painful recovery, the first week esp is tough, but then I do not imagine pushing out a baby then being 'stitched' down below is a walk in the park either!! Bless you all! I dreaded that tear so much with ds1 I used almond oil to 'prepare' my perineum in the wks leading up to his birth....then had a section!! lol hate not being able to drive until the doc says you can either, ds1 was made to wait 6wks!!! ds2 my dad had a stroke when he was 3wks old and the doc took pity on me and let me drive then!!

I am jealous of all ladies who have had 'normal' say births, feel I have missed out, but if my babies are meant to come out the 'sunroof' then so be it!!! lol

[Inglewood]

Inglewood - I just wanted to say I LOVE YOU i feel so much better today and I think its mainly down to be able to drink - hot water works thankyou thankyou thankyou if you were here right now i would hug you!!!!

Fantastic!!! It helped me so so much too!!! I did actually hug the girl at work who told me about it!! Hot lemonde was my next step, so maybe in a few days!! Hope it continues to help?? xx

[Petal]

Hi girls,
Thank you all for your lovely messages :-) Baby O slept from 11pm-5.45am today, was lovely! although he's been sleeping in our bed the last few nights :-/

When i done my birthplan this time i had 'i want an epidural' top of the list lol, the dr was hesitant to give me it because this was my 3rd baby and he said even though i was only 3-4cm 30 mins previous that i may end up having the baby before it kicked in, i was like no way am i anywhere near giving birth!! so i got the epidural thank god, it worked for 30 mins then he was born, still glad i got it though, the last hour or so was horrendous, i cant do pain lol.

Aww babymad, your poor little boy, so glad the ops over and hes doing well :-) bet his brothers are looking after him.

I so hope you find out next week what sex the twins are inglewood!! im dying to know lol :-)

Waves to you all x x

[deaks66]

aw petal, i love your siggy, so cute!

I had a full episiotomy which i dont think is any better than a c-sec really....was really laid up with it. Have heard it is very common to need one if you have the epi because your body doesnt get used to the pain and so when the pain hits, the body struggles to push the baby out leaving the mw's no option but to cut. Having said that i would STILL choose the epidural anyday when i face so long pushing. Didnt have an epidural with ds2 and it still took as long (that damned twisted pelvis!) to push so im thinking whats worse.... no epi, excruciating pain and no cutting or epi, little pain and cutting.... no brainer for me!!

[Kell]

Wow girls you've been busy chatting!! :)

Chocolate sorry the doctor didn't give u want thing, hope b6 works well for you!

Charlie so glad to hear your feeling better! :)

Babymad hope your lo is ok, bless him!

Petal what a clever boy sleeping for so long!! I honestly believe that for the first few weeks of having a new baby you just kinda wing it! Well I do anyway, pretty much anything goes like sleeping in same bed etc, then once you've got over the birth and sheet tiredness it all falls into place!!

Well today I had ds1's parents evening, he's on target for his year group and all I all it was a positive report, however they did say that he can be lazy at times and has a potential to achieve more, his dad seems to be dwelling on the negative of it all, and when I kissed tommy before he went to stay at his dads I felt so sorry for what grief I know he will get from dad tonight.
On a plus we had a curry for dinner nom nom lol

[deaks66]

charlie, it was that syruppy stuff that i was thinking of...still cant think of the name! glad inglewoods suggestion worked for you and you have had relief ;)

[maybebabythree]

Dola mama I had pre eclampsia with induction and bp of 190/140 with ds1 so choice or complaints his birth. With ds2 I had high bP so had to be monitored which is fare enough but I could sit on the birthing ball so why I had to labour on my back god knows

[maybebabythree]

Oh I was cut with ds1 as I needed vontose after 3.5 hours pushing he was back to back with the cord round his neck so the cord was short and holding him in. A doctor cut me and I was welled numbed before she did it and she stiched me with no pain. That was far nicer than tearing with ds2. The birth was a piece of p!## compaired to the sticthes - worse pain I have ever felt and there was no need to feel it

[deaks66]

God the 2ww never gets any easier does it?! I'm only 2dpo and had to resort to building a playmobil pirate ship for ds1s birthday on Monday to pass the time away! Dh never gets home before 10pm and now towie and made in Chelsea have finished there isn't even that much trash on tv to get me through the boredom! Urgh!

[deaks66]

Kell glad you had a good parents eve for ds! Shame his dad can't focus on the positives. My dad used to be like that and I hated it. I had ds's nursery one yesterday and they were so encouraging but did mention that he is the busiest boy they have ever had there...eek!

[Inglewood]

Deaks, ur episiotomy story was my biggest fear before c-sections were outta my hands, feel for you!! A wound on ur tummy is sore, but down there...ouch!! Fx ur pelvis is straighter for baby no 3???? x

[deaks66]

Thanks Hun, it was truly awful. Because they had to do the episiotomy to get ds out and also further tearing from removing the placenta manually, both of which they totally cocked up leaving me with full on convulsions, my vg was so swollen it was hanging down about 4 inches... Had to send my dad out to buy me a rubber ring which I sat on for about a month! Not pleasant! I changed hospitals for ds2 because of that and the after care being so shocking. But they have now closed that hospital so I have to go back to that hell hole for dc3. Can't wait!

[Inglewood]

Thanks Hun, it was truly awful. Because they had to do the episiotomy to get ds out and also further tearing from removing the placenta manually, both of which they totally cocked up leaving me with full on convulsions, my vg was so swollen it was hanging down about 4 inches... Had to send my dad out to buy me a rubber ring which I sat on for about a month! Not pleasant! I changed hospitals for ds2 because of that and the after care being so shocking. But they have now closed that hospital so I have to go back to that hell hole for dc3. Can't wait!

Hopefully it's a whole new medical team and prob lots of diff midwives at the awful hosp?? My friend had her baby in aug and is still sore from a similar experience. They had to turn her baby inside her and pull her out...just awful. She was screaming for a section but they said no and she's been left very 'troubled' down there. The joys of childbirth! Wish I was like my mum few puffs ands pants and out my brother and I came, no meds!! Saying that we were 7lb-er's, my boys were 9lb 1 and 8lbs 5 9early) and I am 5ft!! Didn't know I had a twisted cervix either, but dh says it matches my personality! twat! Shame ur Dh gets home so late!! must be tough, I feel bad leaving dh 2 nights a wk at 7pm, all night till home at 8.30am. With twins too, going back to work at 6mths will be tough for him! Think I am lucky tho, him being a twin and coming from a family of 4, he's taking it in his stride (so far).....

We had fun tonight trying to suss out the phil and teds sport buggy a mum gave me!! lol Dh going daft trying to google how to open it!!! hee hee, shame it's no good from birth tho! Not sure what to do, buy a double pram for what 6mths or so?? or use the M&P twin buggy (kindly also given to us) that almost lies flat with cosy toes?? It's just to walk literally 2mins or less to school and back with the boys!

Petal, love ur ticker, love wee bunnies! Good boy sleeping for u, knew his mummy would love a good sleep! Glad u got ur own way in the end at the birth too. I'm so desp to find out the sex, Fx on tues it's the consultant as she promised me a good look about if it was her, the sonographer said she wouldn't say till 20wks :( Sure it's 2 baby boys in there, just my instinct and I'm ok with that, the shock of 2 babies in there has over-ruled the shock it will prob be a boy! Hope ur resting lots and jealous of all ur cuddles with ur boy!!!

[pinga]

My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth

With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.

I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??

I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques... :)

Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!

Wow I'm rambling!

Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?

[DoulaMama]

Dola mama I had pre eclampsia with induction and bp of 190/140 with ds1 so choice or complaints his birth. With ds2 I had high bP so had to be monitored which is fare enough but I could sit on the birthing ball so why I had to labour on my back god knows
So definitely medically needed for DS1. With DS2, you're right....you didn't need to labour on your back, most likely. It's just "hospital protocol" and they just expect that all women want to birth like that... To touch base on the episiotomy stories... I've attended births where even women with epidurals are moved upright and supported by the staff so they could push effectively which leads to WAY less epi's. I think that most Dr's here in my city have learned that tearing is WAY better than cutting(thank God!). It all comes down to who is willing to help women so they can have a smoother birth no matter what is going on in the birthing suite. Research based care providers are hardly seen any more:( Episiotomy's also take 5x longer to heal than a natural tear and usually creates much more scar tissue as well. They are not fun....I'm sorry for everyone that has gone through that...not nice at all.

My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth

With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.

I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??

I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques... :)

Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!

Wow I'm rambling!

Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?

I've recorded 2 so far:bigsmile: First was a MW attended home waterbirth and the second was an unassisted home waterbirth. I LOVE watching my birth videos. They make me cry every time I see them. I will be recording this birth as well as having a photographer here to capture the moments. It'll be my second unassisted and I'm seriously excited about it!! I love having my babies at home. I'm blessed with quick(not so easy, though;)) births as well and I'm very thankful for that. My 2nd came after about 2 hrs of hard labour and my third came after 1hr of hard labour. After the horrible experiences I had at the hospital with my first birth, you won't catch me birthing in one ever again, unless absolutely medically necessary. There's just something about being the first one to touch and catch my baby, having a peaceful environment, and being able to climb into my own bed to nurse my new baby...it's BLISS:) (I know exactly what you mean Charlie!) xoxo

[deaks66]

Inglewood, I totally agree, wish I was like my mum at childbirth too! My babies are so little that its rediculous how hard they are to get out! Ds1s head just would not turn in my twisted cervix, they tried all sorts! Anyway they do come out eventually so will try and stick with a natural birth next time even if this law about choosing whether you want to have a section or go natural comes into place.

I cantw wait for you to find out the sex.... So so exciting! And I'm glad your dh taking it in his stride... Mine wouldn't!! And in terms of the buggy I reckon the m+p one you have will be fine til they are old enough to both sit on the Phil and teds! Mind you, you won't enjoy the switch as the Phil and teds will seem so heavy in comparison. Dh didn't get in til gone midnight...not sure how long either of us can deal with his work hours for!

Pinga, your births sound amazing...very jealous!

My new thermometer is playing up which explains why my temps are all over the place. They are shooting up and down and today's looks like a pre ov temp! 36.43 and 10 mins later after still not moving 36.14! Yesterday it was 36.9!!! Think I will have to buy a new one....again!

Morning everyone!

[Sunset]

lol i'm feeling a bit scarred from coming on here this morning and reading all your birth stories lmao! sounds pretty horrendous and to think i'm gonna go through that in just a few weeks is erm... scary! i'm lucky in the way that i've never torn or needed an episiotomy so my recovery has always been pretty instant.. only thing is after i had ds1 and i needed manual removal of the placenta, the midwife then tore the inside of my vaginal wall as well as the outside, but forgot to put this down in my notes so it was only a week after coming home from the hospital that i was sort of wondering why i was feeling uncomfortable down there and i had a look and got the shock of the year. it wasnt pretty, but i think in the end it's good in a way that i didnt know about the stitches before hand because i believe it would have hurt more if i would have known.. psychological and all that, because i honestly didn't think it hurt. I didn't have any pain whatsoever going to the toilet or any of that you hear about, it was just when i walked long distances that it would feel rather uncomfortable.

Anyways, i'm quite open minded when it comes to labour and i'm 99.9% sure i won't have time for an epidural, because i never do! so i'm preparing for another drug free labour and as long as i'm not confined to a bed it shouldn't be a problem.

Petal ~ what a good boy you have.. i can't believe he slept so long for you already :)

Inglewood ~ i can't wait for tuesday! i'm so excited for you! your pregnancy seems to be flying by! :)

Maybebaby ~ fx you don't have to be strapped to a monitor this time!

Doulamama ~ you don't fancy coming to the UK and be my doula :p i've been thinking of perhaps recording the birth, but i don't know... i'm quite squeamish so i'm not so sure i could watch it again lol

charliespy ~ oh no are you still spotting? :( when is your next scan? what is this syrup thing you've been drinking?

hello to all you other lovely ladies!! :)

[Inglewood]

Sunset, I'm soooo hoping it's the consultant on tues as although the sonographer was nice, she said she doesn't tell women the gender till 20wks...so Fx it's the consultant!

Ds2 had eye clinic appt this morning, he did so well. Sat like an angel, I was so proud! Not due back till May, but with the twins she laughed and said, lets make that june!!! lol

My dilema today is waiting for a drain company....lucky us have a blocked sewage pipe under the decking!! arrrghhh
3 yrs ago ds1 was throwing babywipes down the loo and it blocked, but ds2 assures me he hasn't, but need to wait and see when they come...it's awful!!!

[Sunset]

Sunset, I'm soooo hoping it's the consultant on tues as although the sonographer was nice, she said she doesn't tell women the gender till 20wks...so Fx it's the consultant!

Ds2 had eye clinic appt this morning, he did so well. Sat like an angel, I was so proud! Not due back till May, but with the twins she laughed and said, lets make that june!!! lol

My dilema today is waiting for a drain company....lucky us have a blocked sewage pipe under the decking!! arrrghhh
3 yrs ago ds1 was throwing babywipes down the loo and it blocked, but ds2 assures me he hasn't, but need to wait and see when they come...it's awful!!!

i hope it's the consultant too :) i thought you said you had to be scanned by the consultant every 2 weeks or was it just that you need to be scanned every 2 weeks, but not necessarily by the consultant herself? glad to hear your ds2's eye appointment went well! my ds1 isn't due back for his next eye appointment until april :)

[charlieispy]

yes still spotting :( i have lactulose syrup it is hideously sweet not enjoying that hoping it kicks in soon! Wish I could get another scan am quite paranoid with the spotting

[Inglewood]

i hope it's the consultant too :) i thought you said you had to be scanned by the consultant every 2 weeks or was it just that you need to be scanned every 2 weeks, but not necessarily by the consultant herself? glad to hear your ds2's eye appointment went well! my ds1 isn't due back for his next eye appointment until april :)

No they have 1 senior sonographer that can scan multiple pg's too, but I have to see the Consultant every 4wks. Unless, I need to see her every 2wks then I can ask to see her while I at scanning, it's pretty flexible. Can't believe I am 17wks today, when I told the opthalmologist she was shocked, said I looked so neat for twins....that worrries me!

Tha drain guy is here! yeh, an hour late!!!

DM, still keep smiling for you, so lovely!!! x

[chocolate]

Ah Charlie, have you got one of those heartbeat dopplers? Would you think about getting one for reassurance?I got one after my mmc and it shows heart rate too which is great.

[charlieispy]

I have got a doppler but cant use it yet as too early x x

Inglewood - ooooh hope you can find out at your next scan!!! FX

and yes DM - saw you had updated your siggy have you just found out its pink?? CONGRATS if so x

[zanacal]

I'm sorry charlie, it must be such a worry x

Inglewood - did you figure out the pushchair? We have one if I can help! The front seat is suitable for a newborn (you could buy a cocoon but you don't need to) and although they say something like 6 months for the back seat mine were always in it by around 4 months so it's not that long - could you use a sling for one baby and have the other baby in the pushchair? Ooh, I'm so envious of two babies!!

[Inglewood]

I'm sorry charlie, it must be such a worry x

Inglewood - did you figure out the pushchair? We have one if I can help! The front seat is suitable for a newborn (you could buy a cocoon but you don't need to) and although they say something like 6 months for the back seat mine were always in it by around 4 months so it's not that long - could you use a sling for one baby and have the other baby in the pushchair? Ooh, I'm so envious of two babies!!

Thanks Z!! but we found the side straps with metal hoop that u pull off!!! But had to google it and what a laugh we had at our stupidity!!!! lol We were given a cocoon with it, but it says on website it must be a toddler at the front if baby in cocoon, so wasn't sure?? Have u ever seen 2 newborns in one before?

[Babymad]

A quick hello from me.....
DS3 is doing really well and was a complete superstar at hospital :) I didn't like any of it, so good thing DH was there to keep me calm. I got very upset when they had to put him to sleep. Very pleased to be home and hoping he will be up about again properly in about 7- 10 days. complete rest for the next two days.
Thanks to everyone for all the well wishes, very kind of you all xxx

Charlie ~ have you told your gp/ mw you are still spotting?

Inglewood ~ we had a double pushchair as DS2 and DS3 are close in age and we had the Out and About 360, it was excellent, only just sold it! Can't wait for your scan :)

Indigo and Deaks ~ hope the 2ww is going ok? Any signs?

Hi everyone else....hopefully be back on again later xx

[Inglewood]

babymad, ahh, bless him they are wee troupers!! It's us mum's that take it harder sometimes.... when ds1 had an ear op I was so worried, he was a star!! Kids are amazing wee people!! he's to a quick recovery!! Thanks for the pushchair advice! x

[Inglewood]

Just another quick note incase anyone missed my offer...

Free to anyone with free P+P..... 2mths-ish supply of Pregnacare tabs, didn't agree with my gastritis. In boxes within foil packaging, not loose tablets. Shame to throw them out! Just Pm me. x

[Kell]

Hope everyone's good!

Babymad glad your lo is on the mend, I'd have been a wreck as well!

Charlie hope bean is ok!

Sunset gosh labours not that far away for you now! Seems like an age for me yet lol

Inglewood lol at the push chair fiasco! My dp wouldn't have looked online, he's one of those annoying stubborn men who won't look at instructions, wants to figure things out for himself!

Had a busy day! Had chemistry and college, my brain is fried! But we were given an extension on our assignment so the class is happy!
I'm going night fishing with dp, his mate and girlfriend. I'm not really looking forward to it, I'm gonna freeze and be pregnant! While they get drunk and fish lol! I promised I'd go so don't wanna let him down, it's his birthday next week do this is kinda I b'day celebration!

[charlieispy]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_18?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wreck+this+journal&sprefix=wreck+this+journal

what an awesome book - thought i would share a little girl had it in the playground - my boys will love it - ordered 3 as presents but already thinking more needed!

[charlieispy]

there is a page for something sticky....she has smashed an egg on it lol and added chocolate...hers was impressive to say the least

[deaks66]

there is a page for something sticky....she has smashed an egg on it lol and added chocolate...hers was impressive to say the least

charlie that looks alot of fun!!!

[deaks66]

charlie, i see your baby is the size of a rasberry...cute!

[maybebabythree]

My birthplan for DS1 was a verbal 'I do NOT want pethadine'. In the end I just had gas and air and an episiotomy. was only a 6hr birth

With DS2 I wanted to go completely drug free and didn't want to be on the bed. My gorgeous MW got me the mobile belly monitors! The best thing ever!!! Means I didn't have to lie down and baby was still monitored!!! I was a bit gutted that I had to be induced. But I had him drug free in 55 minutes. I tore pretty badly with DS2. It hurts tear or cut!! The stitching up took longer than the birth! I was on cloud 9 after that birth! Bumped into a pregnant tour group of the birth centre and I was walking my baby up to the ward, grinning like an insane woman. They all looked a bit terrified.

I am actually a bit nervous about this one. If DS2 was 55 minutes... ummm how quick will #3 come????? Might end up with a home birth??

I am really into natural birth BUT saying that I'm lucky to have had quick births - the hippy in me is happy! I'm not judging anyone that does it differently - you do what is best for you!! I think people have different pain thresholds too - mine is pretty good. After DS2 my MW asked me if I was doing hypno-birthing... I wasn't I was just doing breathing techniques... :)

Has anyone recorded their births? A part of me is really interested to see what I'm actually like during labour! And it would be kinda cool to see baby come out! I might think about it for this birth... not exactly a video you get out at family Christmases! Early on in my relationship with DH my now MIL showed me DHs baby album - there is a lovely picture of him coming out. Did not want to see that side of my MIL!!!!

Wow I'm rambling!

Inglewood - when is your scan - I can't remember what date you said?

I have a very high pain freshold - but I still think - been there, done that, no thank you! I can do it drug free, I just don't want to. Felt quite smug with myself until I was with my BF when she gave birth TOTALLY drug free - no gas and air - nothing!!! OMG that woman didn't even swear or scream once!

As for seeing what goes on, nope! I have a biology degree and I love knowing how things like that work. I had it my birth plan that I wanted to see my placenta with DS2. Everyone including DH was shocked when I picked it up for a good probe, but seeing a baby come out of my private while they rip... I would be tramatised!!!

Everyone has there own idea of a perfect birth, I think I am just a wimp!!

[charlieispy]

charlie, i see your baby is the size of a rasberry...cute!

I know <3 fx a happy healthy wiggling raspberry :D

[charlieispy]

lol deaks

I have never used gas and air although I do swear....i like to say F alot just repeatedly and i have to walk on the spot saying it and then when pushing i have to bite something - with ds1 and 2 it was the gas and air mouth piece.....not attached to the gas and air!! and with ds3 it was my sofa :hide:

[charlieispy]

tld my BF i swayed today...she also has 3 boys (2 SDD's) so she said if it worked i have to tell her how i did it x

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood - if no one else wants your supps I could give them a home

[zanacal]

Inglewood - no, you couldn't use it with 2 newborns but you could use it as a single pushchair with one newborn and wear the other! Is your scan on Monday?

[Lavenderlime]

Charlie That book does look like good fun! Have you heared of Post Secrethttp://www.postsecret.com/? I found out about the project through a magazine article years ago and often go their website every now and then to pass a few minutes . I love reading them and the creativity behind each one and the secrets some so sad and some just really funny. They sell the books with past secrets on Amazon Think I'm going to put a couple on my Xmas list.

Can I just check before the start of my next cycle. The only sup that I stop is cranberry after O?

[DoulaMama]

Doulamama ~ you don't fancy coming to the UK and be my doula :p i've been thinking of perhaps recording the birth, but i don't know... i'm quite squeamish so i'm not so sure i could watch it again lol

I think it depends on the angle...The 2 I recorded were waterbirths and the camera was focused on me, ABOVE me, so I wasn't seeing the baby crowning or anything. A PP mentioned that they would be traumatized if they had to see themselves tear....I WOULD BE TOO! LOL It's just me in labour and then all of a sudden I'm reaching down underneath me, in the water and grabbing my baby as he's coming out. That's all I need to see:) It's something I could put on youtube as it doesn't show anything too graphic and it's quite peaceful:) I'm actually trying to upload it as I type! I think sharing positive birth videos with other women is one way to help with the fear based culture we live in. Let me know if anyone is interested in seeing it! LOL



DM, still keep smiling for you, so lovely!!! x Thank you Inglewood! I'll be smiling twice as big as you when I hear your news next week....I'm so thinking that you have 2 little girlies inside of you!!!! xoxoxox Good luck, Mama!!



and yes DM - saw you had updated your siggy have you just found out its pink?? CONGRATS if so x
Found out yesterday!!!! It was a tear filled moment! Thank you for the congrats!!!! xoxox

[Lavenderlime]

Doula mama it must have been the best feeling ever!! So happy for you!

[Kell]

Awww dm I just noticed! Huge congratulations!! :)

[deaks66]

Dm.... That is soooooo a feeling I want to experience one day! I'm so happy for you!

Lavender, I'm going to check that link out, sounds cool! And yes, cranberry is the one to stop!

[deaks66]

Charlie, what are SDD's?

[DoulaMama]

Doula mama it must have been the best feeling ever!! So happy for you!
It was!:HH: Thank you! xo

Awww dm I just noticed! Huge congratulations!! :)
Thanks Kell!! :HH: xo

Dm.... That is soooooo a feeling I want to experience one day! I'm so happy for you!


I never thought it would happen. I still can't believe that I'm going to have a daughter! Never thought I'd be able to say those words~ I hope with all my heart that you all get to feel that moment of awe~ Lots of Love!

[Wishing4Pink]

Congratulations on your dd doulaMama!!! What fab fab news, so happy for you xx

[Sunset]

DM i'm so made up for you!! it truly is an amazing feeling! :) i've had my baby confirmed girl now by 3 different u/s techs and i'm only a few weeks away from having her and i still can't let myself believe i'm actually gonna have a daughter.. i probably wont believe it until i'm holding her in my arms. congrats to you hun!!!!!

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ i dont know what kind of twin buggy you're looking for but I have this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MIKADO-DUET-2in1-Twins-Double-Pram-Buggy-50-Colours-/170690467042?pt=UK_Baby_BabyTravel_Pushchairs_GL&hash=item27bdf1d4e2

i'm obviously not using it at the moment because the boys are so big, but it's in the garage waiting to be used again when the baby comes and i have to say I love it!! People like to comment on how big it is, because it is rather big, but it's 10 times easier to push than a tandem buggy (i have one of them too) simply because of how the weight is distributed and it's great quality for a decent price! I can't recommend it enough!

[Inglewood]

Inglewood ~ i dont know what kind of twin buggy you're looking for but I have this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MIKADO-DUET-2in1-Twins-Double-Pram-Buggy-50-Colours-/170690467042?pt=UK_Baby_BabyTravel_Pushchairs_GL&hash=item27bdf1d4e2

i'm obviously not using it at the moment because the boys are so big, but it's in the garage waiting to be used again when the baby comes and i have to say I love it!! People like to comment on how big it is, because it is rather big, but it's 10 times easier to push than a tandem buggy (i have one of them too) simply because of how the weight is distributed and it's great quality for a decent price! I can't recommend it enough!

It looks fab!!!! Can't wait to show Dh, although he'll say we don't need it. Been offered a twin pram for free, but doesn't fold down to put in car. I love my own M&P pram but no good to me :( now. Don't think I'd get much selling it.

[Inglewood]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_18?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wreck+this+journal&sprefix=wreck+this+journal

what an awesome book - thought i would share a little girl had it in the playground - my boys will love it - ordered 3 as presents but already thinking more needed!

Just ordered one for ds1, if I like it when it comes I will order for ds2 too! Thanks for the tip x

[Inglewood]

Inglewood - if no one else wants your supps I could give them a home

Sorry! had a taker! xx

[chocolate]

It was!:HH: Thank you! xo

Thanks Kell!! :HH: xo


I never thought it would happen. I still can't believe that I'm going to have a daughter! Never thought I'd be able to say those words~ I hope with all my heart that you all get to feel that moment of awe~ Lots of Love!

Wow, big congratulations xx

[Inglewood]

Inglewood - no, you couldn't use it with 2 newborns but you could use it as a single pushchair with one newborn and wear the other! Is your scan on Monday?

Thanks Z! My scan is tuesday (29th) 11.45am, Dh just told me he can't go!! His boss is short staffed will def give him the 13th off for my 20wk scan and so even if the consultant can tell me on tues, he asked if I could wait till 13th dec, so he can be there instead of my mum. What could I say???? Arghhhh, dilema!! Secretly want to ask anyway with my mum and not say, but he'd know if I did find out (I can't lie to save myself) and he would be hurt.

[Lavenderlime]

Chocolate my PH is about 5 on the strips,

Which isn't awful but not great. I haven't been having anything with aspartame in it except for cranberry light as it tends to give me a headache.

But in a last ditch attempt to lower pH more I have ordered some crystal light. to just take the week running up to O to drink in concentrated ammounts and really hope I don't get headaches.

So my question is if you don't mind asking what is your PH? and how do you test yours.

Not sure if it's the strips, the ammount of time on the diet and sups or the lack of aspartame???

Really need to work out what it is before attempt, I am going t use rephresh. But really want my natural PH to be low anyway.

[Inglewood]

Thank you Inglewood! I'll be smiling twice as big as you when I hear your news next week....I'm so thinking that you have 2 little girlies inside of you!!!! xoxoxox Good luck, Mama!!

Thanks DM, hoping so!! x

[deaks66]

Inglewood, that really is a dilemma! i guess you will jave to wait but it will be excruiciating for you...and us!!

Lavender, do you take acidiphilus? I only started taking it at the start of last cycle and it made a difference straight away by dropping my ph a bit, but now im on my second cycle i noticed a much bigger drops. It raises ph for some, but reckon its worth a shot!

morning everyone else!

[Lavenderlime]

Deaks I'm already taking acidiphilus 2 a day and have been for 6 weeks I have been on a diet for 6 weeks strict IG for 4 of those still have just over 2 weeks until TTC. I've lost 5lb, so just not sure if it's maybe the PH strips or lack of fake sugars.

Maybe I should try acidiphilus plus or double the tabs I'll check my bottle but think I'm only ment to take two.

Inglewood you have a stronger will than me if you don't find out! Could you video the scan for DH and find out and let him find out by watching the video?? Hard one I would just have to find out if it were me!

[Babymad]

Many congrats Doulamama!!! So pleased for you!! Did you sway? Sorry I cant see signatures on my phone. X

[chocolate]

Thanks Z! My scan is tuesday (29th) 11.45am, Dh just told me he can't go!! His boss is short staffed will def give him the 13th off for my 20wk scan and so even if the consultant can tell me on tues, he asked if I could wait till 13th dec, so he can be there instead of my mum. What could I say???? Arghhhh, dilema!! Secretly want to ask anyway with my mum and not say, but he'd know if I did find out (I can't lie to save myself) and he would be hurt.

Why not ask for them to write it down and put it in a sealed envelope and open it together? X

[charlieispy]

i think i would do what chocolate said and get them to write it down x x

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ I too would do what Chocolate suggested! :) I think it sounds like a lovely idea and that way you can both open it together :)

Babymad ~ hows your little boy today? is he recovering well?

Charliespy ~ how are you doing today? have you managed to eat some food?

Deaks ~ how are you feeling? any pg symptoms yet? ;)

Lavenderlime ~ i'm so excited for your first attempt! not long to go now!

Indigo ~ when are you testing? :)

Big wave hello to everyone i've missed!!!

[Babymad]

Me too Inglewood :)
Sunset ~ He's doing well thanks :) we've spent the last two days at home resting. The sickness hasn't eased up for me so it's been nice to be at home, not that I really done much anyway for the last few months! Hoping to take his bandages off tomorrow and check his wounds. How are you doing? Are you all sorted for babies arrival? X

[Inglewood]

Hi all, chocolate that's a great idea, will suggest it to Dh when he's home! Part of me is now hoping it's NOT the consultant as as I said b4, the sonographer wouldn't tell me at 18wks. That way it's out my hands anyway! Dh knows how desp I am to know, but I understand him wanting to know with me!

Babymad, glad the wee fella is doing well! Hope the wounds are looking good and he has a trouble free recovery x

[Inglewood]

Scottish water came where I was asleep, thankfully my sewage issues are on the main pipe under the main rd!! Thank god, was worried I'd have to pay out a fortune!

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ i so hope he likes chocolates idea! :) I'm so excited for tuesday and i really hope you get to find out! either way it'll be lovely for you to see your little beanies again :)

Threelittlemen ~ Loved the picture you uploaded on FB! your daughter is adorable :)

Babymad ~ fingers crossed his wounds look good! i'm doing well apart from suffering real bad with fluid retention. I've only just started shopping for baby so still have quite a few bits i need to get. I'm gonna start packing my hospital bag next week so it's done in case she decides to come early. You'e nearly in your second trimester, how exciting!! :)

[Inglewood]

Just home from the school xmas craft fair, was ok, lots of nice stuff but I had the 2 boys and my 85yr old neighbour and it was super busy, so spent my whole time checking the boys were still about and my elderly neighbour hadn't got lost in the crowd! All I bought for myself was a bit of tablet!!! how sad! At least I will look forward to it later with a cup of tea.

Had a few people say things to me like, "Are your sure ur pg, u look like u have lost weight, ur face is so thin and pale"
I've dyed my hair back to brown, got rid of my highlights, so think that makes me look paler and I actually stood on the scales today and have put on 6lbs now from my bfp! which I am happy about (as long as it's not tons of weight) as hate to think the babies aren't getting enough. Told Dh about the envelope idea and he said, if it's the consultant and she offers to tell you, do it! Get her to write it down and we can decide to what to do when you get home. So thanks Chocolate!! Might get to know b4 the 13th dec after all?? Roll on tues!!! Either way, I get to see my babies!!

[chocolate]

Just home from the school xmas craft fair, was ok, lots of nice stuff but I had the 2 boys and my 85yr old neighbour and it was super busy, so spent my whole time checking the boys were still about and my elderly neighbour hadn't got lost in the crowd! All I bought for myself was a bit of tablet!!! how sad! At least I will look forward to it later with a cup of tea.

Had a few people say things to me like, "Are your sure ur pg, u look like u have lost weight, ur face is so thin and pale"
I've dyed my hair back to brown, got rid of my highlights, so think that makes me look paler and I actually stood on the scales today and have put on 6lbs now from my bfp! which I am happy about (as long as it's not tons of weight) as hate to think the babies aren't getting enough. Told Dh about the envelope idea and he said, if it's the consultant and she offers to tell you, do it! Get her to write it down and we can decide to what to do when you get home. So thanks Chocolate!! Might get to know b4 the 13th dec after all?? Roll on tues!!! Either way, I get to see my babies!!

Yay, glad he is up for it, we may do that next time as I think I don't want to find out - reality is if its a girl I want to know, but if its a boy I don't want to know and can't get round that! But if its in the envelope I'd give it to someone I trusted for safe keeping incase I change my mind :-). I'm sure the weight will come nearer the end lol so enjoy it! X

[zanacal]

I love the idea of putting the gender in an envelope - but I always imagine they'd be reluctant to actually write it down in case you try and hold them to it!

[Inglewood]

I love the idea of putting the gender in an envelope - but I always imagine they'd be reluctant to actually write it down in case you try and hold them to it!

Never thought of that, they might not!! Hopefully she would be ok with writing it down in Dh's absence, if I promised not to hold her to it!! lol

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ I'm sure some sonographers would be a bit funny with writing it down, being the NHS and all that, but i also know of lots of uk ladies who's had it written down in an envelope as well without it being an issue so at least it's worth asking if it's the consultant on tuesday :)

[zanacal]

I was very naughty and booked a gender scan for when DH is at work! My sister will come with me. Sunset - did you have your gender scan when you were 16 weeks? Was it a babybond scan?

[Sunset]

I was very naughty and booked a gender scan for when DH is at work! My sister will come with me. Sunset - did you have your gender scan when you were 16 weeks? Was it a babybond scan?

Yes it was with Babybond :) i first went when i was 16w+3d but baby was lying "indian style" with both feet covering the area so i had to come back 3 days later when i was 16w6d and luckily then she was lying in a better position :) how many days will you be for your scan? how exciting! does your dh want to stay team green?

[Lavenderlime]

How exciting Zanacal! I didn't realise how affordable babybond scans were! I think when I get my BFP I will def have an early one in Yeovil.

FX for you!x

[charlieispy]

omg not long to go Z till your scan!!!!

I am going to babybond for my early one - its 2 weeks today! Although to me babybond seems expensive i usually go to an independent lady who was half the price but she has now matched babybonds pricing :(

[charlieispy]

FX you hear girl :D

[Inglewood]

I am sooooo tempted to find out with my mum and not let on I found out, but not sure I could keep a straight face if he asked "did you find out?". He was initially ok that I found out with my mum, then changed his mind and said he wanted to be there, so I'm a bit miffed at him for changing his mind! Have the silly worry also that when we go together it's the 13th (unlucky for some) he laughs at me, but I'm superstitious! Think I'm a gonna work on him till then....see if he'll just let me find out with my mum. To be honest I'd rather it was my mum if she says "boys" my mum is amazing and will be a great support, Dh although understands my need for a girl isn't a very good emotional support, just the way he is he's the type of guy that would say not to dwell on it, get over it etc.... Not in a horrible way, but he's not good at stuff like that. Was never shown much love as a kid and you can tell in his nature now as an adult, although he's a fab dad and makes up for what he never had with the boys.

[Inglewood]

Z, when is ur scan again?? x

[Inglewood]

Inglewood ~ I'm sure some sonographers would be a bit funny with writing it down, being the NHS and all that, but i also know of lots of uk ladies who's had it written down in an envelope as well without it being an issue so at least it's worth asking if it's the consultant on tuesday :)

Pressing the imaginary 'LIKE' button!! x

[Inglewood]

Sunset, meant to ask. When did the boys arrive? How many wks were u?? Are you thinking she could be here any day now?? or do u have sometime in mind you 'think' she will arrive?

[Sunset]

Charliespy ~ only 2 weeks, it will fly by! :) have you had anymore spotting??

Inglewood ~ Ds1 was born at 38+2 weeks and Ds2 was born at 36+0 so i'm expecting this baby to arrive anytime after 35 weeks, but you never know so i've started packing my hospital bag already just so it's packed :) My midwife tells me it's hard to tell because although ds2 was born prematurely it's still not "that" premature that they would worry about it iykwim and she also tells me that lots of women have 2 babies early and then go overdue with their third baby... but i can't be in that mind frame, i just have to prepare for an early arrival again so that at least i'm prepared. I'm embarrassed to say i've been so set on going overdue with both boys that I have never had a hospital bag packed and I refuse to be caught out again. have they told you when they will deliver your babies? is a twin pregnancy considered full term at 36 or 37 weeks?

[charlieispy]

havnt spotted for a couple of days hoping its gone but wont hold my breath x Sunset - it wont be long whenever bub arrives your pregnancy seems to have flown by.......hope you have a little more pink ready ;)

inglewood - definitely work on dh i can see why it would be a comfort to have your mum there FX you are celebrating pink though

[zanacal]

I'll be exactly 16 weeks so I hope it's not too early - it's in Southampton, so about 1.5 hours from me and I'm dreading driving across the city to find it (I'm a country girl :D). I just wanted to get the scan as soon as possible because I'm sick of wondering and I don't think DH is *really* fussed about being there - he's convinced it's another boy (and doesn't mind in the slightest!) and, to be honest, if I get upset I don't really want him to know! It's also easier for me to go with my sister when the biggest two are at school so we don't need a babysitter (or worse, to take them all with us!).

[Babymad]

Hi Girls :)

Inglewood ~ I think the hosp should be fine with writing it down if DH isnt there, I hope you get to find out either way!! Its so exciting. :)

Zanacal ~ when is your scan, how many wks are you now?

Sunset ~ how amazing to think that you'll be meeting your little girl soon :)

Hi to everyone else :)

[Kell]

All this talk of gender scans is making me very jealous lol!

Deaks how's the 2ww going?

We've had a busy weekend looking at houses, birthday parties and general nonsense!
Feeling ever more tired but that's about it for me! Had an appointment to confirm pregnancy, I was given my first bounty pack which makes it feel very real now! :)
Hope your all good! x

[indigoviolet]

Hey ladies, hope you are all having nice weekends. Just watching strictly at the moment :)

Anyone bought for their secret santa yet?

ps I need addresses from anyone who hasn't already sent; thanks!

[Sunset]

Kell ~ are you planning on having an early gender scan?

charliespy ~ glad to hear you haven't had any spotting for a few days. i can only imagine how worrying it must be! are you still just as nauseous?

Zanacal ~ i'm sure it won't be too early. Babybond has a great reputation and wouldn't scan you at 16 weeks if they couldn't be sure of gender :) I booked my first gender scan without telling my DH because like you I didn't want him to see me upset if I was told boy, but in the end I decided to tell him about the scan so at least he had a choice wheather to come with me to the scan or not (which he did). I'll be keeping my fx you hear pink at the scan! we need some more pink dust floating around on this board! :)

Babymad ~ how are you feeling today?

Indigoviolet ~ i'll send you my address now :)

[zanacal]

Zanacal ~ when is your scan, how many wks are you now?


It looks as though we're exactly a week apart - I'm 14 weeks and 2 days! My scan is 8th December - a week on Thursday, eek!

[Inglewood]

Charliespy ~ only 2 weeks, it will fly by! :) have you had anymore spotting??

Inglewood ~ Ds1 was born at 38+2 weeks and Ds2 was born at 36+0 so i'm expecting this baby to arrive anytime after 35 weeks, but you never know so i've started packing my hospital bag already just so it's packed :) My midwife tells me it's hard to tell because although ds2 was born prematurely it's still not "that" premature that they would worry about it iykwim and she also tells me that lots of women have 2 babies early and then go overdue with their third baby... but i can't be in that mind frame, i just have to prepare for an early arrival again so that at least i'm prepared. I'm embarrassed to say i've been so set on going overdue with both boys that I have never had a hospital bag packed and I refuse to be caught out again. have they told you when they will deliver your babies? is a twin pregnancy considered full term at 36 or 37 weeks?

She will section be at 36wks, unless I go early!! Hope now, my babies go overdue and ds2 was only 3 days early and planned section. Some ladies go to 38/39 wks with twins (so I've read) with vag deliveries!!!