September 2013 babies!!

[Mum to three girls]

You have amazing willpower!

[WantingPink]

Salsa that is so exciting!! I am not sure how you are able control yourself from looking at the envelope. Looking forward to your update.

Fish so glad that the cysts are getting smaller. That is such good news and congrats on a girl!

As far as a home birth there is no way I would have one. DH works in the ER and I have heard one too many horrific stories about babies and bleeding Moms that didn't end well. Plus DS1 had the cord wrapped around his neck twice and we wouldn't have known if it weren't for a HR monitor. He was born by emergency C-section and was blue when born. It really scared the crap out of me. I didn't get to see him for almost 9 hours and it was the worst and longest 9 hours ever.

I chose to have a C-section the second time around because I couldn't go though that again. I will have a C-section with this one also because I don't care about my recovery, all I care about is having a healthy baby that I can have in my room right after birth. I think people forget how many babies and Mom's died before the days of hospital birth. For me it isn't worth it. To anyone having a home birth I wish them a great experience and hope nothing goes wrong. It just isn't for me. I am not the type to really worry about things going wrong but when it comes to giving birth I don't think I could relax and enjoy it at home, I just know too much from first hand experience how things can go from completely normal to crazy, chaotic, and life threatening in the blink of an eye.

[fish2012]

I was home the same day after DD2 but we've got private cover now and I think you get four days after a normal delivery. Which is far too long but a few days will be nice given that it'll be full on when we're back home. I'm really hoping not to have a section this time as the recovery time was a pain. DD3 was completely transverse and my labour just wasn't going anywhere. We were given the option of a trial of turning her but chose a section cos we didn't want to risk the (small) chance of a cord prolapse.

This ones transverse at moment but they say its too early to worry....

[fish2012]

Oh salsa will be stalking!

[DLTAG89]

Salsa cant wait for your update, how exciting :D

Names are a sore point in this house a the min. We are so sure we would be having a boy, bump has been baby Oakley since 6 weeks pregnant. Now we know we are having a girl the names gone out the window. I'm really panicing about finding a name i love as there seems to be none, i've gone through every baby name website on the net and nothing.

Wow your hospitals sound amazing. I was in hospital for 3 days with DS1 and it was honestly the worst 3 days of my life. With DS2 i was in overnight (he was born at 6pm so couldnt really go home at that time) and i was running out of the hospital the next day. You dont get looked after, just chucking in a room and poked and prodded every now and again. I didnt eat for 3 days with DS1 and i didnt even get offered anything to eat for the 18 hours i was in with DS2. All i can say is thank god my DH was there.

[Mel1983]

I'm feeling really nervous about my 20 week scan! It's a week today ! Had a scan at 17.5 confirmed girl, I'm so worried it will have grown bits next time and turned into a boy. Do u think there's any chance that could have happened?

I'm struggling with names too , so hard to agree on a name, especially when u never thought u would be lucky enough to have a little girl!

[fish2012]

Daltag that was my experience too with ds1 hence my desire to get out ASAP ;-) must be good old nhs for you!

Have to say they have been fantastic with all these issues thou, when I saw twins consultant I said I didn't want to stay in and told her why and she admitted post natal was their lowest priority and first place to loose staff to other places which I do understand but I shall be aiming not to be in for long!

[fish2012]

salsa how much longer you are killing me ;-0

[Salsa]

DH will be home in just under 2 hrs!!! I will update as soon as I know'!!! It's killing me too!! I've have the envelope here all day just baiting me!! Not long now...

[True Blue]

Good Luck Salsa :XX:

[fish2012]

Ohhhhh not long now ;-)

[Salsa]

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Its a pink one!!

I dont quite believe it!! So happy right now :DD:

[Dreamofpink]

Huge congrats Salsa!!! So happy for you!!! :D

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[fish2012]

ah i knew it! congrats hun that's such cool news.............on the other hand i don't want encourganing to try again ;-S

[Wanting-a-girl]

Congrats yay

[DLTAG89]

Ahh congratulations. Great news salsa, so happy for you :DD:

[Salsa]

Thanks everyone!! You are all so wonderful and supportive. Feel very complete now, very happy x

[Girlsway]

Congrats Salsa, great news! What a perfect family you will have now.

[4Giffins]

Huge congrats Salsa!! What great news..Sisters are so lovely!!

[Southern Butterfly]

Salsa Huge CONGRATULATIONS!!!! So excited for you!

Fish- Glad the cycsts are getting smaller, seems you are getting better news each scan!

I had another ultrasound today and finally got a great 3d pic of my little guy as well as a clear potty shot:bigsmile:

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[True Blue]

Oh southern he is beautiful! He is also very like your DS in your profile picture. So sweet.

[Southern Butterfly]

Oh southern he is beautiful! He is also very like your DS in your profile picture. So sweet.

That's the first thing DH and I both thought was that he looks a lot like DS3. I hope he gets DS3's ringlet curls too hehe.

[True Blue]

You make adorable babies :agree:

[fish2012]

Oh my ds2 has the most perfect curly hair, next old person who says its wasted on a boy may get a slap thou ;-)

Southern two very handsome men! When I had my 12 wk scan and found it was two i said to the sonographer I could end up with 4 boys ;-s ekk and she was an older lady and she said i did and I wouldn't wish for a girl now I love having all boys they really look out for me! And when we go out girls pass me their numbers for them ;-) I'm sure you'll find the same!

[Wanting-a-girl]

That's a great pic! He looks beautiful! I prob won't get another u/s unless there are issues... With ds2 I had low fluid and had a million but I don't want that to happen... Not long now 15-17 weeks!

[Salsa]

Gorgeous pics southern!! I'll get one more ultrasound at 32 wks to check my low lying placenta. I've had this for all 4 pregnancies. But placenta had always moved up and out of way. This is right of the cusp of their cut off so won't be a prob, I've had placentas closer to my cervix previously. Will be a nice chance to see her again! Hoping no boy bits suddenly grow in the next 2 months! I'm the worst for doubting things when things are good-have to keep looking at my scan pic and telling myself they are convincing girl pics!! I still won't completely relax until she is born and I know for sure! That being said I've already bought some pink things today! Lol

[fish2012]

Ah salsa happy shopping post some pics !

[Salsa]

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I just bought this blossom tree wall sticker for the nursery!

[fish2012]

Given in to the maternity jeans and they are so comfy!

[DLTAG89]

Aw southern hes just beautiful, such a lovely clear picture too :D

Love the stickers salsa, we are hoping to do something similar for the nursery. Going to wait till after my next scan at 26 weeks tho just to be sure. I've also bought some girly clothes, cant wait till they get here.

Im on a huge downer today. Car had its MOT yesterday and they told us it buggered and prob wont last 6 months and theres no fixing it. We really cant afford another one but cant really live without one so looks like we might have to take a loan out. It always seems we get some good news and then some bad news. Poor DH is ruined over it as we had just got ourselves dept free. Sorry for the moan but its really put the excitement of our little girl on a back seat and now we have to sort this mess out :tissue:

[Mum to three girls]

I'm sorry about your car DTLAG.

Fish, I'm only 19 weeks and I gave up and changed into maternity clothes two weeks ago.

Congrats Salsa! Although it's no surprise, you did have the world's most girly nub.

[Salsa]

Daltag I'm so sorry about your car!! What a pain, it seems bad right now but you will work through it and find a solution which will make you feel better soon.
Thanks Mum, lol love your comment about the nub. I can finally stop obsessing over it now!! So sick of looking at that thing-zooming in on my computer so much to study every bit of it!! Lol such a nut case I am! Now I'll no doubt zoom in on the potty shots I've just got!
As for maternity clothes-well you've all seen my bump-I must update coz that was about a month ago now. I'm huge and have been in mat clothes for months!!

[fish2012]

Hey ladies have done few updates on roll call thread please let me know who I've missed ;-)

[Salsa]

Well done Fish x

[Wanting-a-girl]

I was just wondering maybe lualittleman should be on just for stat purposes cause she had a failed boy sway and found out at 10 weeks via cvs...

[fish2012]

Hey wag wasn't really doing it for statical purposes just cause we kept getting confused ;-) I'll add her do you know when she is due? X

[Wanting-a-girl]

No I don't remember but I can go back to the beginning of the thread... I know she left after finding out it was another girl tho

[Wanting-a-girl]

Hi. I am due on 1st September so am currently 8 weeks. I seem to be the only one here with lots of girls hoping for a boy.
I have my first appointment tomorrow with the doctor and have decided I am going to ask about a CVS as I will be just about to turn 40 when I have this little one.
Anyone else analysing symptoms to try and figure out what they're having?

Due sept 1st

[Girlsway]

WAG do you have the link to your stats? I'd like to see the proportions.

[Wanting-a-girl]

O I don't have any stats... She was just part of our due date group until she found out she had a failed sway then she dissapeared so I just thought we should add her to our roll call maybe

[Mel1983]

Any of you think there's any chance my 20 week scan could have changed to a boy? Had a scan at 17.5 weeks and they said girl, my scan is on Wednesday 15th praying its still a pink 1 x11165here's my massive bump at 19.5 weeks! I'm huge this time, I'm sure people think I've only got a few weeks left, how embarrassing!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I'm about that size too :) I'm a little farther than you...


It will still be a girl :) relax obviously I can't say it's 100 percent but its a girl

[Southern Butterfly]

DLTAG- Sorry about the car, that stinks :(

Fish- I love wearing my maternity pants around the house because they're sooooo comfy but still baggy enough that I feel I look kinda silly lol.

Salsa- Love the decals! I'm on the hunt for some too but haven't found one I really like yet.

Mel- cute bump and stop worrying, I'm sure she is going to stay a girl!

[fish2012]

Mum 23 yeah mine are a bit baggy but in normal clothes I just feel so fat and frumpy ;-)

Mel it'll be fine don't stress

Ps autocorrect or frumpy is grumpy how appropriate I feel both poor men in my house ;-s

[Mel1983]

Thanks girls, roll on Wednesday so I can stop over thinking all the time!

[DLTAG89]

Mel i hope wed comes round quick for you but i'm sure she'll still be a little girl.

Well we have narrowed it down to 10 (9, DH doesnt like one of them) names which is a start, what do you think?? We have an odd surname too, grocott (said grow-cot) and alot of names dont go with it. Hoping to get one picked in the next 9 weeks :D

Evie
Skyler
Scarlett
Gabriella
Abigial
Imogen
Keira
Brianna
Courtney
Willow - DH doesnt like

[fish2012]

Love Scarlett!

[Mum to three girls]

Abigail was on our short list for DD2 and DD3. We've tended to have a short list of 2-3 names then waited till they're born.

I'm finding a name for a boy much harder.

Had a lovely normal anatomy scan this morning which was reassuring. He was measuring about right so I've no excuse for having such a huge bump

[Mel1983]

I like Evie , and Keira. U finding it strange thinking about girls names after having 2 boys?
Mum to 3 girls , boys names are really hard especially if u want something different, think I'd be stuck for a name if this little one was a boy

[Salsa]

Mel i hope wed comes round quick for you but i'm sure she'll still be a little girl.

Well we have narrowed it down to 10 (9, DH doesnt like one of them) names which is a start, what do you think?? We have an odd surname too, grocott (said grow-cot) and alot of names dont go with it. Hoping to get one picked in the next 9 weeks :D

Evie
Skyler
Scarlett
Gabriella
Abigial
Imogen
Keira
Brianna
Courtney
Willow - DH doesnt like

Daltag, I love Keira - one of my closest school friends is Keira. She is a beautiful girl who is now a GP.
I like Evie, but here in Aus its very very popular.
Love Scarlett
I like Willow, but if DH doesnt then its prob a good one to cut out and reduce numbers a bit!!

[Salsa]

Mum to 3 boys, so glad you had a normal anatomy scan!!

We are calling this little girl Darcey. Its a name I have loved for years and years and years, after my favourite ballerina Darcey Bussell (im sure I mentioned this, but I used to be a professional ballet dancer)
I cant believe I'll finally get my Darcey.
Middle name is Lyn - both grandmothers names are Lyn, so thought we'd honour them as both grandfathers have been used with the boys middle names.

[DLTAG89]

Yeah finding it impossible picking a girls name. The boys names were so easy. DS1's name i had picked from being a little girl (Taylor) and DH picked DS2's name (Ashton) but i dont really like it, never have but i let DH have his way, i wanted him to be called Mason. So i really dont want the same thing to happen this time.

Evie is very popular im the UK too and its really putting me off. We were so sure we were having a boy bump has been Oakley since i was 6 weeks pregnant. Its so hard when you dont fall in love with a name. I've read every baby name book and every site on the net and nothing has really jumped out at me.

Salsa, Darcey Lyn is very cute and girly too :)

[Longingforgirl]

Hi ladies...

I haven't been on here for quite a while, I was soooo exhausted I couldn't write anything. I don't know why, but all this preperation for Noahs birthday and the birthday itself was a little too much for me. I never saw this coming, I was so so tired and exhausted all the time now. Finally, today I am feeling human again, lol.

Salsa, congratulations for hearing pink!! What did your kids say? I bet your daughter is very excited as well! :happy: I LOVE that sticker in your nursery!!! Really beautiful!!

Oh I love names :happy: Although we are having a hard time picking one out as well, lol. Names are so different over here, we are simply not allowed (socially not allowed at least, lol) to pick "only English" names. Unfortunately. Because we also want to emigrate some day, but of course nothing is set in stone yet, so we have to be a little careful. Right now, we are thinking of Mona Sophie. Not sure yet though, because Mona almost sounds like Noah... maybe. Mh.

Southern, what a great 3D picture of your little boy! So so cute!! You must be staring at it all day long, lol. So sweet!! :HH:

[Salsa]

Longing - we havent told the kids!! We are keeping it a suprise from everyone - except you ladies of course! We dont want anyone knowing we found out, so figured it was wise not to tell the kids as they would be sure to blurt it out at some point to someone! lol
So right now, its a fun little secret we have, which makes me smile everytime I think about her.

Mona is pretty, I like it!

[fish2012]

Yeahy mum to three good news I find boys names so much easier
Our short list was Benjamin or Daniel this time xx

[queen-bee]

Congrats Salsa! I knew from your early scan pics this was your girl. Your gender shots are so clear and convincing. Mine were nothing like it! No lines, just absence of boy parts.
Fish, i am so happy for you. I am sure everything will be fine with your little girl now.
I am stuck with girls names too. Maybe Emma or Ella. I still don't quite believe this is actually happening for me.

[Girlsway]

Love the name ideas, Kiera, Scarlett, Mona
are very pretty. My boys have slightly unusual names so we want to keep it consistent. I thought of Ingrid, Ava or Amelia. My DH is not happy with any of these so I guess we will have to wait a week before due date and then he will have to compromise as we did with both boys.

[Mel1983]

Anybody had any cravings yet?

Thorz u haven't been on here in ages, isn't your scan coming up soon?

[Wanting-a-girl]

In the first trimester there was a day I would have killed for fish and chips and I don't eat fish

Watermelon is a big one lately and choc almonds

Iced cappuccino from Tim hortons


My other pregs my only craving was vinager and ice at the end

[Mel1983]

I had cravings quite early with my boys, first one was for coco pops and milkshake, second son a soap called 'coal tar' bit odd I know! I use to carry it around everywhere sniffing it.
This time I've had nothing at all, gone off meat. To be honest I don't really fancy anything! Looking forward to get some cravings!

[Girlsway]

Fish I felt similar, chips (I don't normally eat) and avocado the first trimester, now salads with vinegary dressing and home made popcorn which is becoming my second dinner these days :-) I might make some now.

[fish2012]

I'm obsessed with avocado!

[Salsa]

Fish-avocado is sooooooo good for you!! Eat up!! Apparently you can survive on just eating avocado-it's full of sooooo many good things for your body! I personally cannot stand the stuff! Lol
Lately I've been craving wine! Lol a bad one-I don't drink a drop while pregnant, just a commitment I make to myself, as I usually love a glass or 2 over dinner. The other preg I haven't even thought about it, but I don't know if I'm just more tired and stressed with the other 3 munchkins I find myself really looking for some at the end of the night!! I have to settle for apple cider-which I actually am really loving too so it's not too bad!
I too have totally gone off red meat, I'll eat chicken and a bit of fish (not seafood just a piece of fish) but cannot stomach a steak - so trying to increase my spinach etc to keep my iron up!

Thanks queen bee, the sonographer said they were very convincing gender pics, I don't know why I still have a little doubt-I'm sure it's just coz I've wanted this for so long and worked so hard for it I don't actually believe its happening!!

Yes I was thinking the same about Thorz- but I know her mum is with her so maybe she is just a bit more busy?? I think her scan is thurs-I so hope she updates us all! Doesn't feel right without her on here the last few days. Also Diva hasn't been on in a whole but think she is still visiting home??

And who do we have on wed getting their scan?? Then is that it??

Now what are we going to obsess about lol.... Names-names is a good one!! We can obsess over that lol

[Mum to three girls]

Salsa I've been craving wine too! I don't drink at all when pregnant either and I can't remember missing it with the others but I do this time.

I have never really had any cravings except with DD2 when I was massively into drinking milk. I had an ARM with her and it was tricky and the midwife said it's common to get hard to rupture membranes in big milk drinkers.

Is anyone else so busy with family life they forget they're pregnant? Weekends are full on and I often forget about it until I bend over or sit down.

[Southern Butterfly]

DLTAG- You have a lot of great name choices. My fave is Gabriella but not sure if you want her first and last name to be a G.

Salsa- Darcey Lyn is too darn cute!

Longing- Glad you are feeling better. I've been really run down lately too but also been sick ugh.

This pregnancy I craved anything spicey, the more the burn the better! My craving has mostly subsided now though.

[Mel1983]

It's me that has scan on Wednesday! I'm soooo excited, as you know sonographers said girl at 17.5 weeks, well there was 2 sonographers in the room and they both said girl. I just same as u can't believe it so I'm praying my 20 week scan confirms girl! So scared it won't!!!
Funny you've gone off meat too! It's hard at meal times as obviously living with hubby and my boys I have to make meat! When I really don't even wanna smell it!
If I hear pink Wednesday just wanted to get it off my chest that I'm going to stop in a baby shop and go wild!

[DLTAG89]

Glad some of you like the names :) It really is such a tough descion and i'm still looking at baby name wesbites for more ideas. I will prob end up with a list as long as my arm.

I've had no cravings this time which is a bit boring but i've really been into chocolate, must be a girl :) With DS1 i wanted nothing more than a raw steak, i used to open them and just sniff it, yuck.

[Longingforgirl]

DLTAG, I also love Gabriella! Very very beautiful! :happy:

Mel, oh, I know how you're feeling, I was always anxious about the following scans as well. I always thought there might still be the possibility that a penis has grown, lol. Wishing you a great, girl-confirming scan on Wednesday!

Salsa, Darcey is such a cute name!!

I am craving Sushi, lol. Red meat is something I usually don't like anyway. Oh, avocado is sooo healthy!!! Unfortunately I don't like it, but I would be glad if I did, lol! Salad with vinegar... yummy... I am not craving too much sugar. I usually love sweets. I am glad I am eating healthier this pregnancy... I think I used the other pregnancies as an excuse to eat anything, lol!!

[fish2012]

Longing pregnancy is a valid reason to eat anything ;-s with all the stress this time I can't seem to stop eating thinking of doing Le for weight loss after bubba lol

[Longingforgirl]

Oh yes, I am planning the same thing!! Lol. I feel like I am eating healthier than ever, but I am still gaining weight like crazy. This pregnancy is going out of hand :sigh:

[fish2012]

Hi ladies

I don't know if any of you are still reading northerns blog but i contacted her and asked if she'd like flowers sent for Evelyn's funeral and they have a lovely simple family arrangement plan however her dh is running a really gruelling v long run and raising money for the a charity at their local hospital who support mums through difficult births like Evelyn's.

I'm going to donate in Evelyn's memory if any one would like details please pm me

Xx

[Thorz300]

Sorry ladies ive been MIA I've just been spending a lot of time with my mom and haven't been on the Internet at all! I have my scan on Thursday :) I'm super tired right now but will be on more often from now on. I hope all is well with everyone, I haven't had time to catch up yet.

[fish2012]

Hi Thorz glad you're okay, only 4 days

[Salsa]

How exciting mel and Thorz!

[Girlsway]

Spent 4 hours at emergency this morning with DS2 who helped himself to Miller Harris (perfume) this morning. I was with him when it happened but he was too quick. We were told he will be fine, he probably didn't drink too much of it. Now sitting in the hospital feeling guilty especially after DH comment that they will send social services on us, which I thought was a ridiculous comment. Surely these things must happen all the time.

[Salsa]

Oh girlsway, I'm so sorry to hear that!! You poor things. Poor little guy! I hope he feels better soon. I doubt social services will be notified. I'm sure they see all sorts of things in hospital! Hope you get home soon. x x x

[Wanting-a-girl]

They prob will send social services! It's ridiculous! When ds3 had his accident with his eye the dr called.... And then he told me that it wasn't an accident and I punched my 5 month old in the face! I was livid... However my social service worker was quite awesome and she was literally in my house for 5 seconds to see where he fell and then left... She talked to me a lot at the hospital and she talked to ds1 as well asking questions about me and DH

Funny thing is my friend has taken her daughter to the hospital for crazy things and has never been called on...

I find it ridiculous that they phone every chance they get cause I think that it will scare a lot of parents into getting proper care! I remember when I took ds3 to the hospital and I called my mom and she yelled at me cause they are gonna cal them on me... I ask what should I have done kept him home?! I was so mad at her... I guess she didnt understand how serious the injury was... Funny cause she is a social worker....

[Girlsway]

Thanks girls, little one is totallly fine, they said he chose more natural perfume to drink, but I have a feeling he didnt drink too much. And thats the problem, did we panic too quickly? I'd rather have these things checked than be sorry later. They said a Health visitor will come round, but did they just try to cover up the social service referal? I am furious as these things happen to many of us and they just make me feel like I am not good enough mum despite the fact I always tried so hard to do everything properly. There is bound to be another incident with 3 children at some point in the future and what will happen then?

[Wanting-a-girl]

It prob is a social worker... After we have babies here we have to bring the baby to the hospital for a check up the day after they come home and your told its a health check up but it's a social worker that you meet with hmmmmmmm ;( it makes me so mad!

[fish2012]

Oh girl sway poor you sure it'll be fine my friends son drank dishwasher liquid and there was no follow up at all which I kinda think is more preventable ;-? I'm sure it'll be fine hun just keep your cool and I'm sure they' ll see there's no issue hate to say it but if hospital picked up you worked full time they have made some super quick wrong assumptions ;-(

Thinking of you horrible stress xx

[Girlsway]

We will know tomorrow when I get the phone call, lets hope it is really a health visitor.

DH and I are still a bit jumpy and I will be checking regularly on the little one tonight. Can't imagine how will I feel tomorrow at work, I have a deadline and have to go in. It's crazy. Thanks girls for the support, its much appreciated. I will update again tomorrow.

[Mum to three girls]

Some paeds departments (in Aussie and nz anyway) have a policy that all ingestions have social worker follow up. They're aware that most of the time there's no issue, I wouldn't take it personally.

[Wanting-a-girl]

You won't have any issues so don't worry about it it will just be a check up and then ur file would be closed any ways so def don't stress about it

[WantingPink]

I can't believe that there is social work follow up for accidental ingestion. It was perfume and you were right there and knew how much he had. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that social services wouldn't show up for that here. I don't think I know anyone who has had social services visit them. I wouldn't stress about it much Girlsway especially since it is done for all ingestion. Just make sure your kids are clean, the house is clean, the laundry is done, etc. I am sure they will come and see there is nothing to worry about and move on.

[fish2012]

Hey girls sway any news thinking of you xx

[Bigwish]

Aw thorz your bump looks tiny, love the skirt too. I'd love to wear something like that but its way too cold here (plus i'm only 5'0 so look silly in long skirts). Its lovely though :)

Both my waters went but both were very different. With DS1 they went gradually over about 6 hours (my whole labour) and it felt like i was peeing myself the entire time and with DS2 they went pop right before he was born.

I'm so so scared about the birth this time too. I had an episomoty with DS1 and a bad 2nd degree tear with DS2 so i know whats coming this time. I didnt have any pain relief with either boys (apart from paracetomol with DS2) but being stiched up was so much worse than the births so this time i'm doing EVERYTHING i possiby can to stop tearing but i'm really not looking forward to it. I'm thining past it though and thinking about bringing the baby home.

Sorry to drop by uninvited, but i saw your worries about tearing. Recently a collegue of mine gave birth to her first and the shoulders kept stuck and they tried a lot of things to get the baby out; legs besides the ears, they put her on hands and knees, and eventually broke the subclavian of the baby to pul him out.

I thought she would have had a tear at least or a episiotomy, but nothing! Her midwife recommended to use 'epi-no' because results were promising. And although it is anecdotical evidence, i think it is worth looking it up. Here's a link http://www.epino.nl/PDF/first_clinical1_2.pdf

[DLTAG89]

bigwish thanks for the link, been having a look and it looks like something i might invest in. Anything is worth giving a go so i dont tear, Thank you :D

Girlsway hopeyour little one is doing ok today and i also hope the health visitor visit goes ok if they end up coming. I hate it when they come round, they always seem so intrusive and ask stupid questions.

[fish2012]

health vistor home visit when ds1 was a week old those fireplaces could be dangerous.....yeah probably not to a one week old who can't move thou!

UGH surely there must be better things they could do with thier time!

[Wanting-a-girl]

You would think! I see real homes that they REALLY should be visiting! Omg my friend who lives 10 hours away from me has a friend and she got in a domestic dispute and he punched her in the face so she hit him and ran to call the cops... Well social services took the kids away from her and gave them to him! This happen like 3-4 months ago she gets to see her kids once a month ... She has a court date at the end of this month finally but how does this happen! The visits where she sees the kids there is a social worker watching and sitting in and the kids have both said during visits that their dad is hitting them and they come hungry and dirty! And they do nothing! This is the only horror story that I know of and it sickens me cause the kids should be with their mother cause she is a good mom and was only protecting herself!

[Mel1983]

How's everyone feeling here? Anybody got heartburn, mine is really kicking in the last few days. Only 1 whole day till my scan!!

[Thorz300]

No heartburn for me, just really bad hips, sprained foot, and an occasional Charlie horse in my leg. Truthfully I still don't have a proper baby bump, I just look fat!!! Oh I am moody and get an occasional headache too. Oh wait I forgot, I almost passed out at the store yesterday from low blood sugar, I get that way occasionally.

[Girlsway]

Little one had a good night, he is happy and no phone call so all good.

Mel good luck tomorrow.

Bigwish I tried epino with DS2 and still ended up with stitches. I will use it this time round too but it doesn't do miracles.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I always get heartburn from hell! I have to sleep sitting up... I take Zantac almost everyday...

[fish2012]

He he what's a Charlie horse?

Great scan today all okay (well aside from the known) and he showed me our lill twin Miriam she's nestled under my anterior placenta cuddled by her big sister really been grieving for her last few days so angry with god for taking her and been praying for a miracle for her, slowly accepting that wont happen which is hard but today really helped which probably sounds odd!

[fish2012]

Just wish now I'd asked for a pic - do they save them do you think I could call tomorrow and ask?

[Wanting-a-girl]

You should call and ask! I know herr they print pics and they get sent to the dr

[Wanting-a-girl]

Charlie horse = really nasty leg cramp!

[fish2012]

Ah thanks wag yes keep getting those too ;-)

Yes I'm gonna call them x

[Girlsway]

Cramps started here as well, they woke me up couple of times last night. It could be due less salty diet I was eating recently. And heartburn is a constant nuisance. 3.5 months to go!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I find that I only get the leg cramps at night when I stretch my legs in my sleep

[DLTAG89]

I suffered with heartburn for the first time last night, i forgot how horrible it was. I usually suffer with leg cramps in the past 2 moths too so i've got them to look forward too yet.

Fish, glad your little one was doing ok at your scan yesterday. I would give them a call to, it doesnt hurt to try :) Hope you manage to get a scan pic.

DS1 felt baby kick for the first time this morning. She gave him a right kick up the bum when we were all having our morning cuddle, he thought it was the funiest thing ever.

[fish2012]

Ah daltag that's so cute!

[Mum to three girls]

Fish, even if there's nothing from the last scan could you ask for future scans?

I have only had reflux with one of the four pregnancies (not this one) and thus far she was the only baby born with thick hair! I know the reflux = baby with hair thing is just an OWT but it amused DH that it was right for us.

I have a really gross varicose vein on my left thigh-it came up last time but thankfully went away after the pregnancy so hopefully it'll go away again.

DLTAG, I'm jealous of your kicks. This baby did not stop moving during the scan but with the anterior placenta I'm only feeling the major squirms.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Def an old wives tale! I have basically hairless blonde babies and I have severe heartburn I think I would prefer labour to the heartburn I get

[fish2012]

Ha ha one baby no hair loads heartburn from like 8wks ridiculous one baby lots hair none at all ;-) maybe it works in opposite for me!

[Thorz300]

I don't generally get too much heartburn, and all my babies are born with a decent amount to almost full head of dark brown hair.

[4Giffins]

Here is my 21 week photo! Kind of hard to tell but can you believe my belly button has already popped out! So annoying!! Lol
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Oh and just for the record I do wear a baggy shirt over my skin tight cami's! Lol..it helps to disguise my belly! :)

[fish2012]

Hey Thorz good to hear from you how's the foot?

[Thorz300]

Cute 4 giffins you're tiny!!

My foot is ok, I just can't wear shoes, only flip flops. Hurts too much to wear a shoe on it just yet! My hips are killing me and will probably be put on bed rest in the next month or so because my left hip has already given out a few times, so I've taken a few tumbles already because of it. 2 more days until my scan yay!! Finally!

[fish2012]

4griffins you look tiny to me bad news about belly button thou x

[fish2012]

Oh cool I think mels scan is Thursday too fx for good news!

[4Giffins]

Ok ladies I have a name question for you! What do you do when DH doesnt agree with the name you are set on? I mean we have obviously been through this since he hated tons of names I proposed(but not loved) with our girls, but this time is different! I found the name I loved for my DS and then decided to try for him! Lol..I mean I am set on this name and will not even look at other names! He has said he isnt really a fan of it because the name is Harland and he thinks ppl will call him Harley for short and he doesnt like that. I dont even want to talk to him about it cuz I get so upset that he doesnt love it! So I guess my question is do I just hope he will come around to it over then next 4 months or just pull the "this was my idea, I swayed and Im carrying him/birthing him" card lol and be ok with the idea that he could dislike our sons name forever! What did you ladies do when you had a name you absolutely loved and DH didnt or vice versa? I just dont think I can let this one go!

[fish2012]

My ds2 is Noah I loved this name we had others we both liked Benjamin and Daniel (but for family reasons his middle name is Samuel which for me ruled out daniel oddly not for dh!) dh wasn't convinced by Noah and I thought he'd end up as Ben which I was okay with he arrived in half an hour after I called dh to come home ten minutes after arriving at hospital so dh had parked on their red lines (nearly missed birth as stupid midwife nearly sent him to move it I may have sworn at her ;-( as he left five minutes after birth to move the car midwife said to me does he have a name and I looked at dh and he said Noah, he now loves it and couldn't imagine him as a Ben!

I'd say quietly hold your ground try and find a middle ground name you can both agree on maybe come up with another shortening or nick name to suggest to your dh if that's his only worry about the name and hold your nerve and pray for the labour room buzz to win out!

I think with most men if you push too hard they really dig heels in I'd save that for when he's born if you need it ;-)

[Mel1983]

Hey my scan is tomorrow morning 10.30, I'm really nervous! After hearing the words girl last time I'm just so scared to go tomorrow! Keep ur fingers crossed for me girls

[Wanting-a-girl]

DH Hated Ezra's name and I told him to suck it up and until he rips and orange out of his nostril he doesnt get to have much of a choice...l he doesn't like lennons name at all either and I just said well that's what it is so get used to it....I sign the birth certificate ;) I'm very hard headed tho

Omg some guy in my town put his truck for sale online and two guys went with him to test drive... Today they found his body :( what is going on with people these days? The guy that is being charged is a multi millionare and I can't understand why he would kill someone for a truck

[Wanting-a-girl]

Btw he will come around my DH now loves Ezra's name... It will grow on him :)

[4Giffins]

Thanks for the support guys! Fish you crack me up!!! That is totally my DH too, if I get too hard headed it makes him fight back even more so becuase then its about being right or wrong instead of the actual reason for the arguement! I will definitely save my big guns for the delivery room! :)

I admire you WAG! I really deep down want to be that way and tell him tough that I get the ultimate decision but Im just not that outspoken! Lol..I just have this fear that he will hang it over my head for the rest of time! I dont really think he would but I would hate to have him dislike a name for ever..but then again I love the name enough I might be willing to take that chance! Lol

Im glad to know that others have been in this situation. I guess I just hold tight for the next 4 months and see what names he has to offer on delivery day and go from there! Lol

[DLTAG89]

4Giffins i would keep trying to persuade your DH and dont go with a name you dont love. DS2 is called Ashton and from day 1 DH said he wanted to call him this, i wanted Mason. I said i liked Ash and we couldnt agree on anything else so he ended up being called Ashton and still to this day i dont like his name. I said when he was born, oh it will grow on me and it didnt.

Could your DH pick the middle name maybe. This time i wanted to call this baby Oakley Luca Thomas, DH didnt like Luca or Thomas so i agreed to do a thing called "danny month" (DH's name) where he got everything he asked from off me and in return i could have the names i wanted. Anyway we did "danny month" so i could have the names and now we are having a girl so back to square 1 :hair:

I would say stick your ground too and dont give up on the name.

Omg WAG how scary, theres some crazy people out there. Makes you wonder what on earth goes through their heads when they can do such a thing.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I told him that if it was a boy his name would be Lennon at about 12 weeks and he said noooooo I said well hope it has a vagina then! And then when I found out its a boy I neve mentioned the name but I posted on Facebook baby Lennon is on his way and he obviously saw that... The other day he finally called him by his name ;)

I will never forget the look on my mothers face when I went to pic ds1 up after my gender u/s when preg with ds3 and said to ds1 well we will be having baby Ezra lol she looked appalled and said I need to choose a real name... Lmao

[fish2012]

WAG you're ballsy - I wouldn't be that brave

4griffins i think slow and steady and i agree with daltag don't have something you're unuse about

mel omg stalking you ;-0

[4Giffins]

DLTAG I have suggested that he choose the middle name and call him that if he would like. I think that is a good compromise! Im sure we can come to some sort of agreement but Im so scared to even bring it up for the possibility of him shooting it down! I really wont let it go and dont want to have to turn it into a fight! The one night we briefly discussed it he brought up the nick name thing and kind of turned his nose up..I got mad and wouldnt talk to him the rest of the night and havent brought it up since! I need to get a backbone instead of just pouting about it!!

WAG..Im glad you dont let anyone influence your decision on names! Our names are a little different too(Fallan and Haven) but unfortunitely I always worry about what ppl think and let that influence my decision! So if I am set on a name and know I love it no matter what I dont tell anyone! I know I would get a few ppl turning their nose up at it and it would make me second guess our choice so usually we dont tell anyone before we have the baby! Of course Im always a little worried about ppl stealing it as well! Lol

[4Giffins]

WAG you're ballsy - I wouldn't be that brave

4griffins i think slow and steady and i agree with daltag don't have something you're unuse about

mel omg stalking you ;-0

I agree! You are very brave WAG!! Haha! Slow and steady for sure Fish!! Maybe if I just let him think it over without me pressuring him he will end up bringing it up again and be on board? I can always hope!! :)

[4Giffins]

BTW DLTAG I really like Oakley for a girl as well! It was on my list with DD2 but of course DH said no! Im really thinking a "danny month" might be a good idea! Lol..I alread know what he would be requesting though and Im not sure its worth it! ;)

[Thorz300]

I hear you, I like the name Tate for this little guy, but DH doesn't like it, and at this point I don't care!!!! I have let him have the final say in all the other 3 boys names and this time, I didin't get my girl, so I am naming this guy what ever I want! I know that sounds harsh but DH has had the final say in with the first 3 boys and always used the excuse that I would have the final say when we had a girl. Well it looks like that isn't gonna happen so this is my final baby and I AM PICKING THE NAME. (although with all the other boys names, they were names that I picked and DH just liked them and then wouldn't budge after settling on the one he liked from the ones I suggested).

[Mum to three girls]

I'm not sure about names either. We have quite conservative names for the girls (Lucy, Matilda and Violet) but they're not currently "top 10" names either. DH has a relatively common name now but 30 odd years ago it was less so and he says he hated it and wants this baby to have something solid and standard. I don't hate his suggestions, they're just a bit boring. I think we'll get it down to a short list and negotiate thereafter. I think with some men as well (my DH included) the pregnancy doesn't feel real until the baby is nearly born and they don't always understand our need to get things sorted NOW!

Thorz, I know this is the last thing you need to hear but I do think there's still a good chance you're carrying a girl.

[fish2012]

good luck mel

[DLTAG89]

Good luck mel, looking forward to your update :D

4Giffins good luck if you do a "danny month" i think it made DH feel better that he was getting something out of me picking both middle names. It wasnt much fun for me though :D

Mum23 Lucy is a great name (its mine) so you have great taste. I love violet too. Me and both DH have really common names (Lucy and Danny) and went through our school life as Lucy H and Danny G so i'm trying to stay away from popular names as but the only one me and DH both seem to like is Evie which is sooo popular at the min. So she might end up being know as Evie G for her school life. I would have loved to have a bit more of an uncommon name and tried to do the same for the boys so they wouldnt have this problem.

This naming lark is hard work!

[Salsa]

Stalking Mel!! Not sure what our time difference is... Im sure you will hear pink again! Hope you get some pics to show us x

[fish2012]

salsa her appointment was 30 mins ago!

fx mel hoping for some pinky news xxx

[Thorz300]

Good luck Mel!!! Hope you still hear pink!

FINALLY my scan is tomorrow! Geez what a long wait!!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Good luck Mel!

And thoz what time is your scan as i will be hardcore stalking for your results

[Thorz300]

My scan is 1:30pm EST tomorrow

[Salsa]

Thorz!!! I'm SUPER exited for you!!! I too will be stalking stalking stalking!!!
Hope we hear from Mel before I go to bed!! Will try wait up a little while longer!

[Mel1983]

Hey I'm back , scan said she thinks girl baby had legs crossed for a bit, and then she opened them slightly which showed 3 small lines. Lady said I think girl and I can see no obvious boy bits. I believe it a bit more, I just wish she had a perfect shot. I need to believe it now, which I will. I just think part of me is scared to! I didn't get a nub picture but she gave me a good profile one, here she is, it's mad I had my c section date today too which is the 30th September! 11247

[Salsa]

Mel, congratulations! Beautiful profile pic. Wow how exciting you have a date!! My DS2 birthday is the 29th of sept! And my best friends son was born on the 30th!!
Congrats again! Wonderful news x

[DLTAG89]

Yay mel great news, very glad you heard girl again :)

Thorz cant wait for your news tomorro, ill be stalking all day.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Congrats mel

[pebmcpd7]

Congrats mel and good luck thorz...

[Thorz300]

I can't seem to keep my blood sugar up. At least I think that is what my problem is. Im always shakey and jittery I guess I'll have to talk to the dr about it tomorrow

[fish2012]

Yeahy Mel congrats

Thorz fx for more pink news tomorrow

[Southern Butterfly]

Congrats mel, we all told ya it would still be a girl:wink:

Thorz good luck tomorrow! No matter what I know you've got to be excited to see your LO again!!! I also have problems with hypoglycemia esp during pregnancy. My dr tells me to always have a granola bar with me to munch on when I feel dizzy.

[Mel1983]

Good luck tomorrow thorz! Hope u have pink news too! Thanks girls for all ur messages!
I've been getting a really sore pelvic bone when I walk, anybody else ever had it, I've never had it before . It's horrible !
Worth it for a little girlie though xx

[fish2012]

My backs killing today I can hardly move ;/(

[Girlsway]

Congrats Mel, what a great news.
I also have sore pelvic bone and find myself limping when standing from sitting. Never had it before but I blame the office job. Sometimes it feels like a blocked nerve and it's quiet painful to mOve around.

Thorz can't wait for your news, I think it's a girl too!

[Wanting-a-girl]

so a personal question

do you guys get contractions after orgasm? i get a really nasy one everytime... im guessing maybe i will mention it to my dr next week... i know i had them with ds3 but i dont remember them bein this painful... it worrie me cause i dilate very super fast

[fish2012]

yes not worryingly strong thou, i asume they are more like a braxton hicks but i've never got those do dunno ;-0

[Thorz300]

Yep I have gotten them during all 4 pregnancies after orgasms.

[Mum to three girls]

Congrats Mel!

Thorz, good luck. Are you nervous?

[Thorz300]

I am really getting nervous! Not really about it being a boy or a girl because I'm planning on boy! I'm nervous because I just really want him to be healthy!!! I'm also worried bub will be crossing the legs or something and I won't get a straight answer.....that's all I need for this gender roller coaster!

17 more hours!

[Mum to three girls]

I was nervous too, obviously not about gender but I felt like I was pushing my luck hoping for a fourth healthy child. I hope all is well.

[fish2012]

Good luck Thorz thinking of you xx

[DLTAG89]

Good luck for today thorz, really looking forward to your update :D

Wag no i cant say i do but then there hasnt been many this pregnancy :rofl:. I have been noticing alot more braxton hicks with this pregnancy and they started alot earlier. Thankfully they arnt painful (yet), i was in tears with them in the last few weeks with DS2 they were that painful.

We'll i've made a dint in baby shopping and have got a few clothes, a bath, towels and the footmuff to match the pram. I also think we have a name picked, just need to sort a middle name out. Oh and buying a new 7 seater car this weekend so finally getting things sorted and a bit less stress.

[Thorz300]

7 more hours until I head out the door for my scan!

[Mum to three girls]

And I'll be asleep! The other ladies will need to be on stalking duty. Good luck.

[Thorz300]

Ok ladies, I'm struggling!!! I guess I just need to hear that it is normal for me to feel this way. I have 2 of my closest friends who are pregnant right now too one of them is having her baby next week and the other is due 2 weeks before me. Anyhow both of my friends are very heavy set girls normally and I don't have an issue with that, I love them they are my dearest friends, but I find myself comparing my pregnancy weight gain to theirs. The one who is having her baby next week has only gained 12 lbs TOTAL and the other who is due Sept 15 has gained 0 lbs!!!! I know they don't mean to rub it in, but they seem to always be bragging about it and keep asking me, and what about you, how much have you gained??? I guess I shouldn't care. I am already pushing 12 lbs and I am really struggling with it!!! I know deep down it has a lot to do with my starting weight, because I am 5'5 and I got down to 100 lbs when I was doing the LE diet, so if you go by that then I have already gained 27 lbs YIKES!! But for my sanity, I am going by my average weight before I started the LE diet which was 115 lbs ugh either way, I feel like I am packing on the lbs and I really really need to stop comparing myself to my friends who haven't gained ANYTHING. But I guess it is just human nature. The reason I care so much is because I got absolutely HUGE with my last pregnancy, so much so that I wouldn't even look at the scale, so I don't know my total weight gain with that pregnancy.....I know it was more than 50 lbs. I was on bed rest for 5 months so I know that had a lot to do with it. I am on the verge of bed rest again!!! I am terrified of getting as big as I did last time. With my 1st two pregnancies, I gained the average 25 lbs, and I am ok with gaining 25-35 lbs but really really don't want to gain more than that. It's just so hard when you are on bed rest and can't move, and still have the same cravings and hunger a normal pregnant woman has!!!! Thanks for letting me vent!!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

My overweight friend didnt gain any weight so when she had her baby she was less than her start out... You can't compare to over weight people cause their weight gain expectations are a lot different than average people... Don't drive yourself crazy with that... Can't wait for your u/s sooooooo excited!

[Thorz300]

Thanks, I know you are right, but it is really hard when they seem to always ask me how much I've gained.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Just tell them you havnt weighed yourself... I actually put my scale in my closet so I'm too lazy to get it out to weigh myself so I only get to see at the drs.... It was soooo shocking last month when I gained 7lbs in that month! My next appt is next thurs and I'm pretty scared to see what the scale has to say...

[Thorz300]

Thats a good idea, maybe I will say that to them, because then they will probably stop asking.

[Wanting-a-girl]

ya and really i think they are doing it for their own ego boost lol cause they think that your gaining so much more than them but in reality your not

[Salsa]

I agree with wag. I think girls only ask those questions to fuel their own insecurities. We all have insecurities. Weight being one that I'd say every girl has an issue with. Regardless of your size. We all want to be thinner, taller, more toned-whatever it may be. I have some friends that look amazing whilst pregnant. Only put on baby bump and once they've had baby they are back to normal size by the time they leave hospital. I'm normally a very slim person, but for whatever reason I balloon out while pregnant. It takes me close to 8-12months to slowly shed the weight. I always manage to get back to pre pregnancy weight (through a lot of hard work) but I get there between all my pregnancies. I tune out to those around me, I focus on knowing I am doing what is needed to grow a big healthy baby inside me. I then also have plenty of milk when I breast feed and don't jeopardise my supply by dieting once I've had the baby. It always comes off but so very slowly. Just focus on the big picture. Do what is needed to keep that baby growing beautifully. And every body's body will function differently. You shed the weight last time and you will do again
Ps-super excited about your scan!!! The day has finally come!! I too will be sleeping so look forward to the news when I'm up!!
Hope you get a pic to upload for us! x

[Southern Butterfly]

Thorz- I'm really struggling with my weight gain as well. Like you I started out very underweight so I keep trying to remind myself I needed the extra pounds but its still so hard. If I go by my normal average weight then I've gained about 18lbs but going by my true starting weight I'm already up 35lbs at only 23 weeks! I always get down to my pre pregnancy size but it gets harder after each baby and I worry about it after this one.

As for your friends I agree with WAG and Salsa, I think they are trying to make themselves feel better by asking and I think telling them you just don't weigh yourself during pregnancy is a great way to make them stop asking.

Thinking of you today, can't wait for your update later!!

[Thorz300]

Thanks for cheering me up about my weight ladies, I'm feeding the boys lunch then I am off to my dr appt in 30 min!!! I'll update as soon as I get home!

[4Giffins]

Thorz, It is so hard when your closest friends are the ones that really enjoy your misery! I have a few like that too and even if they dont mean to be that way everything is always a competition! I think the other girls are right, maybe try just avoiding the topic all together. Or depending on how annoyed you get with hearing the remarks you might just kindly remind them of your starting weight when getting pregnant!! :)

WAG, at my appointment Tuesday I had gained 7lbs in the last month as well! Eeek...its always hard gaining weight no matter how much! Specially right now since we are only half way! I have only gained 20 lbs each in my previous pregnancies and Im already at 9 this time! Im actually excited to be pregnant through the summer though cuz I hope to stay pretty active!

[fish2012]

Thorz any news!

I've gained tonns I think it was the release from Le combined with feeling better after 13wks MS and a bit of depression about stressful pregnancy I never way myself in pregnancy bubba is number one its insecurity if they're keepin on tbh they are probably just delighted for once they are relatively trimer than you - ignore I I suspect in a yrs time you'll be back in your jeans and they won't

[Wanting-a-girl]

Waiting waiting waiting! Hurry up anticipation is killing me ;)

[True Blue]

Should be soon :D

[Wanting-a-girl]

omg its killing me lol i need to know... i have a feeling she will see a little vagina :D

[fish2012]

I don't understand time zones ;-)

Thorz where are you?!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Geez thorz you really know how to make someone feel like a stalker ;) I have hit my refresh button like 5000 times

[Thorz300]

Oh my goodness sorry for making you wait!!! Baby is perfectly healthy!!! Oh and lets try this one last time.....

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I am beside myself crying happy tears! I don't know if I can believe it.....Here are a few of the pics she gave me. Dr was so excited for me, she got 7 different shots of it, and forgot to give me a pic of the actual baby lol. That is ok because she is gonna check again in 2 weeks just to be sure and to check on my placenta, it is still close enough to my cervix to make her anxious!!
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Is there any doubt ladies??????? PLEASE be honest, I am struggling to believe my eyes!!!!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

omg!!!!!! yay i knew it

[Wanting-a-girl]

so happy for you!!!! congrats go pink crazy

[Wanting-a-girl]

can you call the place you had your elective and get your money back?

[True Blue]

SCREEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM

Awesome news Thorz I knew it :cheerteam:
Yay yay yay!!

[Southern Butterfly]

WOHOOO! So happy for you Thorz! I can't imagine your shock, there is no doubting those shots! CONGRATS:cheer:

[Thorz300]

Are you ladies POSITIVE THIS IS A GIRL?? I am still struggling to believe it!!!

[True Blue]

NO doubt at all :D

[True Blue]

Change that siggie :babyf:

[Wanting-a-girl]

No doubt! That is a girl!

[Mel1983]

"That looks like what I saw in my scan! And I too can't believe it, prob like u I just couldn't imagine me making a girl! Well done babe! You will prob feel so in shock for a while! What's ur due date, were prob a few days apart! I had a feeling u were having a girl!!! Go on order something pink as a treat! X

[divakotka]

Thorz!!!! Wow, congratulations!!!!! I am so thrilled for you! And I feel so bad I sent you to the other place and they got it all wrong. I can't believe that. I would totally call and ask for your money back. It really angers me, I'm sorry!

But you must be over the moon! And I wouldn't doubt those shots AT ALL, yes, go change your siggy!

Oh and we are back in the US. :) We are exhausted from our trip. We got back yesterday afternoon after traveling for about three days, yikes. But you can't beat a free ride on a military plane :)
I don't think I'll be able to catch up on everything on here but I am excited about posting regularly again and spending the rest of my pregnancy with you lovely ladies.

[4Giffins]

Wholey cow Thorz!!! What wonderful news!! I can only imagine the shock your in after totally preparing yourself for a boy! There is no doubt what so ever, huge congrats...Id say its safe to celebrate, and go shopping!!!

[Thorz300]

You ladies are so awesome, thanks for all your support during this HUGE ROLLER COASTER! DIVA don't feel bad none of it is your fault, but I am going to call them and see if they will at least rescan, even though their policy clearly states it has to be within 2 weeks of the first scan. I'm not mad one bit, I am in complete and UTTER SHOCK!! I don't know if I will truly believe it until she is in my arms!!!! Please please please don't grow a penis in two weeks when I have my next scan.

I will be inducing on Sept 26!

Welcome back Diva!!!!

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz I knew it congrats on a healthy lill girl whoop whoop had you told the boys they were getting another brother?!

Not only call the elective place for your money back but tell them you are suing for metal distress!

Go pink that nursery!

[Mel1983]

So pleases for u, has anybody brought lots of pink stuff yet? Any suggestions on any websites with nice girls things?

[Mrs_P]

Just crashing.... wanted to say a huge congratulations Thorz, i had such a strong feeling you were getting pink, am so happy for you. Ps i can understand the doubts, but that is one of the clearest girl scan's i have seen!

[Mum to three girls]

I knew it! Absolutely no doubt at all about those pics. Congrats.

[4Giffins]

So pleases for u, has anybody brought lots of pink stuff yet? Any suggestions on any websites with nice girls things?

The sites I like to shop on for baby/childrens clothes are Old Navy, The Childrens Place, Carters and Baby Gap. Im in the US though, Im not sure where your at!

[Navywife620]

Thorz I am curious how far along were you when the tech first told you boy? Congratulations!!!

[Thorz300]

I was 14w3d but measuring 15w1d when I was told boy, and at 21 weeks,,,,, all GIRL!!! If I can actually believe it!!

[DLTAG89]

Yay thorz so made up for you. We have been out buying a car all day (and night) and i couldnt wait to get back to check your update. Huge congratulations on your healthy little girl :DD: Time to go to bed now. Thats defo a little girl x

[Salsa]

Woohoo!!! Change your sig and change out roll call!!! You my love are having a pink one!! Huge congrats again Hun!! It's just sooooo blinking exciting! Was that our last scan??? What a way to finish!
Diva welcome back!! We've missed you!! Glad you had a great time, I I hope it doesn't take long before you are all settled back in again!!

[Girlsway]

Big congrats Thorz, I knew from the first scans picture it would be a girl. I told you to save your trears at 14 wks. Are you going to announce it to everyone now with your cute pink feet picture?

[Thorz300]

I still need to pinch myself!! I can't believe it's real!! I'm in a dream and I'm afraid it's gonna get ripped away from me!! Oh well I'll love my little Macie Anne until I see a penis on this baby at birth! Ugh I really really really hope there wasn't a penis hiding and it suddenly pops out in 2 weeks! That's all I need!!

[Salsa]

lol, I know how you're feeling. I have to keep looking back at my scan pics to make sure there is no penis hiding!! But I have to say, we both have very convincing girl pics!!
I have to have another scan at 32wks to also check my placenta, so will get to double check then!
Ive completely decked out her room already though, so Im hoping nothing suddenly changes!!
Go buy something pink for little Macie Anne x

[WantingPink]

Thorz I had a feeling that you might hear pink... I had to check in tonight just to get your update. Those pics look super girly to me. Don't think that you will be hearing boy in two weeks. Those are definitely some girly parts there. I know how you feel thinking that you are going to wake up and it is all a dream or that your next scan will show boy however, that scan is ALL girl. Congrats!! Very happy for you!! Have you told your boys?

[Longingforgirl]

I haven't been on lately, and wow, what do I see?!

Thorz, HUGE congratulations!!!!! You must be so over the moon!!! Unbelievable, sooo great!! Your pics are so obvious though! But I had a hard time believing I am carrying a girl too.. and I guess this feeling won't subside until they are in our arms :happy:

I will be writing more after this weekend, it's DS2's birthday tomorrow and there is so much to do..

[fish2012]

Hey longing was my little mans birthday on Thursday party tomorrow agh!

Thorz I keep thinking of your news really cheering me throu squabbling boys and cake making trauma ;-)

Mel Zilliy is great I'm not buying yet but they have some lovely stuff

[fish2012]

Lol I ask is it still a girl everytime ;/)

9 scans so far two more booked Thorz I think we're all a bit scared to believe just in case ;-)

[Thorz300]

Still in shock and disbelief ladies!!! I don't want to wake from this dream, but I don't want to be crushed when baby is born either!! Well now for redirecting my plans for the nursery! I was gonna buy a new dark crib for the little guy, but now I found this beauty on Craigs List for 65$
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So if this sale pans out (so often things from Craigslist dont pan out) I think I'll go with this crib and go from there!

[Salsa]

Must be the week for
Birthdays! It was my ds1 birthday tues so having a party on Sunday. And I've got to make a Spider-Man cake!! He is totally obsessed with Spider-Man, it's pretty cute actually, seeing as he has never watched Spider-Man! Lol he just loves the idea of it!

Thorz that's a gorgeous crib. My little one will be in the same cot all my other 3 have used. It's still in great condition and I'm moving ds2 out of it next wk. he'll b moving into ds1 room and for now into a portacot until he is a bit older and ready for the bunk bed ds1 is currently sleeping in!
I wanted ds2 moved out of nursery a little while before baby arrives so everyone is used to their new set ups! It'll be the first time the boys share a room so will be interesting!
Also then that means I can get stuck into decorating nursery all pink and put away the blue stuff! Exciting times!

[DLTAG89]

Thorz that cot is so cute. I really wanted a white cot this time but with having magnolia walls it will really clash so we are buying a new birch sort of coloured one and draws too. I've been throwing myself into "decorating" the nursery (been looking at wall stickers, curtains and that sort of thing as we cant paint). Cant wait to start buying some little bits for her room, exciting stuff. Its currently a play room for the boys so really is a blank canvas.

Only problem is i dont know if we will be living here rented, living here owned or living somewhere else owned buy the time shes born so i need to wait as long as possible to do anything.

I'm also bidding on a car seat on ebay at the min, fingers crossed a win :D

[Girlsway]

Nesting is in full swing in our household. DH just organised builders to reconstruct our kitchen, breakfast and dinning rooms into one. I am
excited about the results but dreading next couple of months
living in dust. Decorator is coming to give us quote next week too, omg we are crazy doing this with two small children!

[Wanting-a-girl]

omg do any of you have issues with neighbours?

my one neighbour has yelled at ds2 a few times now and i have stayed out of it and let dh deal with it cause he is not as hard headed as me and wont come accross like i would ;) well today ezra is out playing with some balls in our backyard and we dont have a fence up yet and the neighbour has fresh grass seed on their lawn well ezra heard their little boy talking to him from their window so he walked over to see i got off my fat preggo a$$ instantly to go get him but did not want to walk on thier lawn so i called him back to me and picked him up and she comes out and tells him very rudly to stay off her lawn... 1 he doesnt understand much and 2 he is 2 years old!!! i told her that she is not to talk to my 2 year old and that she is a very rude person... she said i need to watch my child lol... i was right there the whole time... im pregnant and slow thats all!!! she ended up sending me over the edge i told her to F off and never to talk to any of my children cause shes so nasty to them... i explained i have disabled children and things are a lot harder for me so some understanding would be great! i would never let them do something they shouldnt but im not magical! i can only do so much right!

[Girlsway]

Omg your neighbour sounds like a total bitch who hates children. I don't get people who can be rude or nasty to little innocent children. It's quiet unfortunate you ended up with a neighbour like her, what a pain. But she hasn't made it any easier on herself. I'd let children to use her garden when she is not in.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I god she's got two kids too... But she doesn't really let them out she's strict and they are From India.... My lawn is basically all dandelion at this point cause ds2 behavior has been soooo bad lately but tonight I can see her husband walking on my lawn wtf! I didnt bother saying anything cause I don't want to come accross like a nasty person... But I think I def put her in her place!

[Salsa]

Girlsway, exciting about your renovations! We are in the planning process of a massive Reno/extension job starting oct. so I'll have 4kids under 5 youngest being 3wks old!! Going to be about a 5month job, second story added, walls knocked out! New kitchen the list goes on!! I think we're both mad! But will be worth it when it's all done!

Wag-how horrible for you! Poor little Ezra. I really don't understand some people. And I too would mimic the devil is someone dared to speak to my babies that way! How dare them!

[DLTAG89]

wag your neighbour sounds like a nightmare. We have a lot a trouble with our neighbour too. She has 1 little boy, hes about 3 about is a little horror. We have a fenced off garden but she thinks its totally ok to let him climb into our garden and take all my boys toys. Shes also a party animal and has her little boy running around in the garden till gone 11pm most weekends. I suppose she could be worse (not much though :D). Theres nothing worse than a neighbour you dont get on with.

Really been craving sugar these past few days, sweets, fizzy drinks and chocolate. I'm trying not to give into them too much tho as i'd like all my teeth left at the end of this pregnancy.

[fish2012]

Wow where is everyone!

Thorz still so excited by your surprise girl!

Ds2 2nd party went well yesterday now hosting a birthday party for my mil & fil joint birthday twenty relatives, two tired toddlers and one very tired mummy ;-) why does everything happen at the same time?!

[Mum to three girls]

We've just been to a party - not hosted or anything - and I'm exhausted. I suppose we're all quiet cos this is the "boring" part. No sickness/misery of the first trimester and no massive discomfort plus excitement of the third.

Maybe we should have another round of bump pics?

[Thorz300]

I think we should have a round of bump pics. I also think it quiets down on the weekends. For me, weekends are super busy and the only real time we get with DH so I am rarely on the computer. I am only on right now because I came home early from church because I couldn't sit, my hips were killing me. So now I am home alone.............NICE AND QUIET!!
So ladies I'm sure my disbelief is annoying, but after the roller coaster ride I was on please indulge me. I am terrified that this isn't really a girl and on my next scan we will see a penis. I have a friend whose boy shot had 3 lines too, so I don't really know what makes it all that different from mine. My 3 boys all had an obvious penis, but her little guy didn't, I'm worried mine might be like that. Can anyone shed any light on the difference between this one and mine??

Here is her 20 week boy scan11322

and my 21 week scans
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[fish2012]

i'm not great with these things yours is deffinalty a girl, i would have guessed her;s was too but i am bad with this things!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Has she had her baby yet? Urs is not going to be a penis don't worry u can go girl crazy now lol

[WantingPink]

Not sure... you might want to run this one by lovemy4 and see what she says. I would have guessed girl for your friend. The only thing maybe is that you don't see the femur bones with your friends which sometimes can mean you are not looking at the right view/angle/plane. I would be curious as to what lovemy4 says. Would like to know if your friend's baby is born yet and if everything looked "normal".

[WantingPink]

This is what I have been doing for the last couple of days. This cake was crazy but the little girl I made if for loved it.


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[Mrs_P]

Thorz was your friend told boy or girl during the ultra sound? There is a lot going on down there and there is a lot of space between the back of the bottom and the three lines, whereas your daughter (and yes she is a girl) her bits look like they are in the right place. There are also two sets of arrows on the boy shot and a lot of shadowing going on and it looks like there maybe a bit of the cord mixed in down there - but you could always post in the u/s forum. Pics are great BUT they are spilt second image, the tech will have seen your little girl from lots of angles during the scan to make that call, my boys were the same as yours - obvious at that stage!

[Thorz300]

OMG wantingpink, that is an amazing cake, good....no, EXCELLENT JOB!!! you have talent girl!!

She had her little guy already and she was told boy during this scan, and he looks normal down there lol!! I posted the question on ingender and haven't gotten any responses

[WantingPink]

So she was told boy during the scan? I am sure this is just a weird shot then. The u/s tech probably saw something more convincing than this to say boy.

Thorz I totally know where you are coming from... being in disbelief. There are only boys on my side and DH side of the family. DH hasn't had a girl in his family since his Grandfather (so my kids great-grandfather) so everyone is in a little disbelief right now. It took me a DNA test and three scans before I actually started to belief and buy girl things. I even have bought purple paint for the nursery. I can totally understand where you are coming from being told boy and then girl. Your girl shots are from several different angles and like you said, your boys (and mine too) were very obvious boys at 20 weeks. You deserve to be able to relax and start planning for a girl!! You could always call up the place you got the 15 week scan from and go in for another scan. I know it probably feels too good to be true:)

[Salsa]

Thorz, I know how you are feeling. I feel the same often too. Like its too good to be true and you don't want to allow yourself to get your hopes up! I have to keep looking at my pics and trying to imagine if they've made a mistake!! I too got 6 views of the genital area. So I do believe if something was poking out you would of seen it! I don't have my boys scans to compare as I never found out what they were. I'm anxious to go back at 32 wks for my next scan and just have it all super super confirmed.

[DLTAG89]

Thorz i'm no expert but to me your friends pic looks alot more bulky and sticky out where as yours looks really flat and more girl like, your friends looks like it could be the back of a pair of testicals, hope that makes sense. I'm sure shes your little girl with all the shots you got :)

Wanting that cake is amazing, i bet your so proud of it and i bet the little girl loved it. I'd love a cake like that and i'm 24.

Stared potty training DS2 today so i'm expecting lots of puddles around. Really hope hes easier to train than DS1 was.

[fish2012]

wanting that is an amzing cake my mum made me one a bit like that for my 7th birthday i still remember it so it's deff worth the effort!

agh feel 34 weeks preggie not 24 really can't see how i'm gonna make it 40 weeks ;-S grump!

hope you ladies all feeling better

[Mel1983]

Me too and I'm only 21 weeks , my belly is huge! Feel quite painful at night from my ribs to my pelvic bone!

Thorz I can understand what ur thinking. I still can't get my head around having a girl. Never thought I'd be lucky enough to have one! I never had a potty shot so I have now forgotten what I did see on the day of my scan. I also keep thinking that sometimes they get it wrong and I'm so scared that will happen to me! Be nice to relax and enjoy it, I'm just scared to do it!

[Mum to three girls]

Wanting, I agree, that is phenomenal!

Thorz, your friend's scan has two "parts" to it that make it not typically girl. There're the three lines close to the body but then a further protrusion anterior to that which are also imaging as three lines. It's a weird shot though. Anyway, your scan is a million percent girl (trust me, I KNOW girls' scans).

Mel, I am enormous as well. People are beginning to look surprised when they ask and I say I'm only 20 weeks, I seriously look about 30. The same thing happened with DD3 though and I evened out by the third trimester. My ob only weighs women if she's concerned about something so I think from now on I'm going to try to eat well, exercise and stay off the scales. I always get it off afterwards but it's a pain and doesn't tend to shift until I start running again (but I love to run so it's no hardship).

[Mel1983]

Same here. I've had lots of people asking how long I've got left, like I'm just about to give birth! Think it must be the more kids you have the earlier we show. Has anybody brought baby stuff?

[DLTAG89]

We have been buying a few bits now we know if to buy blue or pink. Not bought loads tho, just incase. We have another scan in a few weeks so when its been confirmed (again) we are having a girl i'm going to finish buying.

So far we've got a car seat (but thats good for a boy or girl). A baby bath and towels, a few clothes and . . . SOME DRESSES!! :running:

Can i ask tho, how much newborn clothes is everyone buying? DS1 was 6.7 and DS2 was 7.11 and i've heard girls are smaller so dont know what to buy as DS2 didnt even go into newborn where as DS1 was in tiny baby and newborn until he was 2 months old.

[Wanting-a-girl]

My ds3 was 8 10 and only fit newborn for a a couple days and then 0-3 until he was a month... He didn't lose any weight after birth and went from 8 10 to 24 pound in 5 months! And I spent a lot on his clothes and thank god a kept them all cause we are quite financially strained ATM so i wouldn't be able to get loads of nice stuff from scratch.... Although I have spends a few hundred on clothes already for the new little guy :s I have baby shopping issues lmao and a baby blanket addiction lol

[Wanting-a-girl]

I know I mentioned the guy that got murdered when he was selling his truck... His body was found on a farm down the street from my house... Now they are finding more bodies! Omfg!

[3boys]

Omg WAG.... Scary stuff!!!

[fish2012]

oh WAG crazy stuff poor you ;-S

I'm gonna by one set of newborn 8lb babygrows girly ones whoop whoop but thats it my ds1 was 8lbs4oz and my ds2 was 7lbs1oz! tiny my comparision he got his only set of new clothes - tiny! guess which ones bigger now ;-0 i don't think personally think this one will be smaller cause she's a girl i

[Wanting-a-girl]

Girls are supposed to be smaller but my cousin and best friend both had girls over 10lb lol

[fish2012]

my friends second girl was 8lb10oz and this number 3 ;-S

[Thorz300]

OMG WAG that is scary and awful!!

I still haven't dared buy anything girly yet. I did get started on a rug for the nursery though, if this baby ends up being a boy I can just untie the pink and add blue or green. This rug is gonna take a lot of time and fabric! Good thing the baby won't be here for awhile! 11333

[Wanting-a-girl]

Love it thorz! I really want to make one! Do you just buy fabric and cut it in strips

[Mel1983]

I want one too! Tell us how to make it, where do u get the stuff t make it from?

[Thorz300]

Yep I just buy the fabric, cut it into strips and tie it on the non slip rug mat. It's really easy but time consuming and it takes a lot of fabric so make sure to get a lower cost fabric if price is an issue.

[Mum to three girls]

That looks great Thorz. I haven't bought anything yet, I tend to not buy anything for the baby until 35 weeks as I'm a bit superstitious about it. We'll need a new double stroller though and a new car so that's enough! Our current car can be converted to a seven seater but then we lose the boot which isn't practical.

I don't think I'll go over the top with clothes though, it's not really my "thing". All my DDs mainly wore leggings, shorts or long pants when they were little as they're much easier to crawl, toddle or climb in. The big girls still prefer shorts or jeans when they're playing although they do love to get dressed up now for parties etc.

[DLTAG89]

I had what i think was the worst heartburn ever last night. Came on about 30mins after eating tea and stayed till about 9.30pm. Pretty sure it was heartburn but never remember it being so bad with the boys. Having a really tough time with food this pregnancy :(

Is anyone else really really tired all the time too, i thought during the 2nd trimester you are supposed to be feeling all rosey and bushy tailed but i just want to sleep.

[fish2012]

Oh daltag I'm knackered and grumpy and feed up with it can't possibly last another 16 weeks ;-(

Taking 20 guides on guide camp next week too need to find some energy for that!

[ladylaura1990]

Congratulations Thorz on your pink news how fantastic for you!!! Im at my third scan today at 2.30 hoping for pink news again although im 100% shea still all girl and last scan was correct.
Will update you ladies and post piccys if they let me get lots :) hope your all well.
Was wondering on what names you had decided on for your babies.
We have chose Belle-Rose pronounced Bell-eh rather then bella :)) xx

[Salsa]

OH WAG thats scary!! I find it sickening what goes on in the world! How horrible about the tornado through the mid west. SO sad, I cant handle news like that while hormonal and pregnant. Makes me want to cuddle my babies and never let them go :sad:

[Mel1983]

I'm feeling really tired too, especially in afternoon, could easily go back to bed ( obviously with the kids I never do! ) I'm really painful this time too, by boy pregnancies were so easy this time my pelvic bone is really sore

[fish2012]

whooop whoop i have finished work!

[Girlsway]

My pelvic bone is hurting too especially if I have to sit at my desk for too long. When I stand up from sitting it really hurts and I can't walk properly. Does anyone have that?

[Thorz300]

I have hip dysplasia so I know exactly how you feel! My pain is actually in my butt lol but it hurts so bad to sit or stand or walk or anything really but the absolute worst is going from sitting to standing. Sorry you are in pain! We are over the half way mark though yay!

[4Giffins]

Is anyone having a baby shower? I never had one with DD2 since I already had everything from DD1 and I know it used to be that ppl only had them with their first born. Though, Seems now days everyone I know has them for each pregnancy no matter the gender or number of previous children! One of my good friends want to throw a shower for me since we are having a boy this time but Im not sure if I should or not! DH says it will make me look greedy! Lol..Besides I have already bought so much, with 4 months still to go I dont know if I will need anything else by then!

[Thorz300]

I'm having one! My friend is throwing it for me. Here we have one for our first born of each gender or if more than 8 years has passed between two of the same gender! I'm so very excited to finally have a girl baby shower!! For so many years I would leave girl showers in tears until finally I stopped going all together and would just give gift cards! Now I can start going to them again with out tears! Yay!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I had 2 for ds1 that's all I get lol.... Good thing I have everything lol

[fish2012]

Oh interesting here they tend to be a surprise I didn't have one for ds1 had a lill one combined with birthday party last time, doubt I will this time, 4griffins if your friend wants to organise one let her you can always say no gifts here you don't always do gifts people tend to buy something when te baby's born maybe were more superstitious or more people stay team green ;-s

[DLTAG89]

I've never had a baby shower and wont this time either. As sad as it sounds i'd have no one to come lol.

We do have a big "party" for the babys christening though so ill be planning that pretty much right after shes born, we will be hoping to have it sometime in jan.