September 2013 babies!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Wow! Serious! Did you tell them your high risk for preterm labor and they should do it sooner!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I need somersault opinions o this ... Totally unrelated to babies... But I'm pretty pissed off lol... So my neighbour complained to the property manager that I didn't know we had... We built our townhouse and it freehold and we own it so I don't know but anyways... She took pictures of my yard and sent them to him complaining about kids toys... We have two little tikes slides on our yard you know we uave kids they like slides... And then I keep ezras push car at the side of the house.... And we keep the recycling bin on the porch right now cause its easier for me right now... The property manager guy read the emails t DH and they were apparently really nasty she was calling us slobs and a million other things.... Anyhow is a recycling bin really a big deal? I don't know I don't even have time in my busy life to process that lol... And that's what bothers me is she knows ds2 is a lot to handle and to our face she's really nice but apparently she is ver two faced

So anyways this lady always let's her dog shit and piss in our backyard and never once did I complain... They cleaned it up like once a week so I whatevered it... She also walks her dog without a leash and he is always growling at my kids... So I did take it apon myself today and called animal control on her!

There has been a couple times maybe more than a couple times that the raccoon had ripped our garbage open and there's a huge mess... But its cleaned right away... When we notice it! Am I blind or nieve and really am a slob?

[fish2012]

Oh gosh southern surely they can fit you in sooner that's an age to wait not even accounting for fact you may not be preggie then, surely you see someone else?

Wag sounds like a piece of work to me if your property is freehold dont see how you have property mangt anyway you'd know if you were paying for it so as your not makes no sense.... Lol glad you called the dog people ;-)

Took boys out without buggy and ds 2 completely in lazy mood and had to carry him about 3 miles ;-( feel awful and crampy now ;-(

[Girlsway]

Southern I hope your little boy can hang in there longer.

WAG what a nuisance with your neighbour, she doesn't seem to stop.

My DS1 just broke out with chicken pox and I don't know if I had it. Midwife is checking the blood for past infection, should know tomorrow. But again it's an extra thing to worry about.

[fish2012]

Oh girls way poor you fx you've had it before thinking of you having to look after a poorly one my two are running me ragged at mo ;-s

[Southern Butterfly]

Wag- wow what a piece of work! Sorry you have to deal with that.

Girlsway- good luck on your results, hope you don't get it!

So I was planning to call the cardiologist's office to see what I could do about being seen sooner but before I could my Perinatal office called and said the peri doc wanted me to be seen sooner. She actually made arrangements for a pediatric cardiologist to come to my peri's office on Monday to see me there. I'm relieved to be seen sooner but worried about why my doc is going through so much trouble to have me seen...

[Southern Butterfly]

Oh and Fish take it easy! Put your feet up and drink plenty of fluids, hopefully the crampiness will ease

[Salsa]

Southern I'm sure it's just because they know you are at a higher risk of delivering soon (which I hope you don't, at least not for a few more weeks) and want these appoints ASAP so they don't miss you altogether! Keep your chin up, thinking of you and take it easy. Try not to stress (easier said than done I know) and let us know how your appoint goes x x x

[Southern Butterfly]

Salsa- The more I talked to DH about it I am thinking that may be the case too. I think they want to be sure I see the specialist before I go into labor.

[fish2012]

I'm sure that's why southern even here on the nhs they saw me the next day when they thought she had calcification this is in the country where a six month wait to see a consultant is considered normal ;-s

Good luck when's you appt can dh go with you? Praying its a nothing xx

[DLTAG89]

I'm back from hols and think i need another one :D. Had a catch up with how everyones doing.

Southern hope your little man stays put as long as possible. Must be a nightmare with all these appoinments too, big hugs x

Girlsway have you heard anything back yet? Hoping its nothing and your immune x

RE saving too, mine looks like a badly mowed patch of grass. I like to be "bald" down there but cant see anything now do just guess what i'm doing, not good. I do find a mirror helps tho.

Had a really great hol but suffered soo badly with hayfever and we went to a forest too but feeling slightly better now i'm back, just wish i was able to take something.

Maybe 2 TMI questions but does anyone suffer with thrush in pregnancy. I seem to get it every time and more than once too. Also when me and DH do manage to have sex, afterwards everything aches so much down there, its even painful to walk? Its really weird as i've never had it with the boys.

[Thorz300]

Lol nothing is tmi here. I've never had thrush. And sex is too painful on my hips so we can only to the spooning position but I feel bad because I'm sure DH is getting bored of that same old position.

Here is a pic of the pink white and grey blanket I crocheted 12089

[DLTAG89]

I feel pretty bad on DH too at the min, i keep turing him down but theres so many reasons for me not to have sex at the min.

Thorz that blanket is lovely, people would pay a fourtune for a blanket like that. Have you ever thought about doing it professionally?

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Heres the 3D pic of our little girl too, was so lovely to see her and people are saying she looks like DS1 already :)

[Thorz300]

Oh what a sweet pic she is smiling! You are lucky to get such a good shot! I'm the same way with always telling DH no for sex, I'm just never feeling good or fresh or excited for intimacy but when we do the spooning position I don't have to do anything, I know it's not exciting but it's better than nothing so he'll take what he can get.

I'm still a novice at crocheting so I can only do a handful of patterns and stitches, plus they take me a long time to do so its not anything I could do professionally. I only learned to crochet to keep me busy during bed rest while I was on strict bed rest with ds3
Thank you for your sweet comment about the blanket though

[fish2012]

Thorz that is such a cute blanket careful we'll start placing orders ;-)

Daltag I had thrush at end of last two pregnancies the only times Ive ever had it ;-( oh I'd forgotten that joy to come!

I feel crampy after everything hot bath, sex, walking, carrying ds2 I am a physical wreck ;-(

Bump is below my ribs already seems kinda early any one else so low?

[Southern Butterfly]

DLTAG- Welcome back! What a sweet pic, almost looks like she's smiling!

Thorz- Love the blanket too, are pink and grey the colors for the nursery? I think that color scheme is very cute and chic.

No action for my poor DH either as I'm not supposed to be having intercourse. He's used to it by now as this is pretty much always the case in my 3rd trimester.

[Southern Butterfly]

...and since I'm bored I figured I take another bump pic. Here I am a few days shy of 30 weeks and up 40lbs eeeeek!

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[Thorz300]

Yep the whole room will be white and grey with touches of pink! I am making EVERYTHING myself. So far I have the bumpers done and the sheets and a rug. I just finished the blanket (Afghan) and now I have the crib skirt to make and a toybox/bench to refinish and make a cushion to go on top so it is comfy to sit on. Then of course I need to address the decor on the walls, but for some reason that really intimidates me, I'm always afraid I will hang things up crooked or they will look dumb, so I don't ever do it. We have a traveling Medical student that will be renting her room for 2 weeks (extra $$ is always helpful) and then I can really start putting the whole thing together. I'm excited!

I love your bump Southern! I know it is hard to see the scale go up, but for gaining 40lbs you still look fabulous!

[Mel1983]

Does anyone feel mega moody and stressed? I have 2 boys and am this time expecting a girl, with my boys I loved being pregnant ! This time I'm so on edge constantly shouting and snapping at everyone, which leaves me feeling like such a bad mum!

[fish2012]

Hey Mel snap ;-(

My boys are 2&3 thou so wonder if its that plus I already have sore back and pelvis which I haven't before ;-(

[Salsa]

Me too Mel!!! I'm a grumpy mess and soooo much more moody this time round. I'm always yelling at the kids (well the 2 older ones anyway) my 1 yr old is a little darling angel who just always seems to go with the flow. Bless him. However my 3 and 4 yr old are hard work and I feel I'm forever fighting with them. Makes me sad. I hate grumping at them, but have no patience at the moment.
Thorz, gorgeous blanket! My mum crochets all my kids a special baby blanket (I'm no where near this clever) and so far all 3 love their blankets so much it's become a comforter. And they all sleep with it all cuddled up next to them every night. Super cute!
Southern, that's a gorgeous bump! You're looking fantastic!
I just did a major toy shop for my dd's 5th birthday, my ds2 birthday and started Xmas shopping!! There are big sales on at the moment and once
Bubs comes along and we start renovating there won't be much time to do these things!! DD birthday is in a few weeks so I feel great to have all that sorted. I'm absolutely exhausted so I'm off to bed! Night all x

[Mel1983]

Maybe carrying girls makes people moodier? I hope it's that as I'm worrying I'll never go bk to the way I use to be. It was my dream to have a girl but u wouldn't think so if u spent an hour with me! Not that I believe my scan I'm still worrying they got it wrong! I've got another scan on the 14th of July so hopefully I'll relax more after that!
Thorz love that blanket too, my mum knits blankets for me but I really think I'm going to give crocheting a go. How did u learn how to do it? Is it really hard to do?

[Wanting-a-girl]

Geez wait til ur boys Are 9!!!! he is by far my most difficult and he's my neurologically normal one! He is soooo disrespectful and never listens! No matter what I take away or ground him it doesn't seem to get better just worse! And I now just have a hard time being nice to him at all! I can't handle him! I'm at the point I want my mom to take him! She wouldn't but I can't deal with this much longer! I'm wondering if it's his "sperm donors" genes! He was a bad ass for the 18 days I knew him... Goes to show yu nature vs nurture! I am always screaming and yelling at him! I hate it! I don't want to be a constant bitch to him. But how can I be nice to him with how he acts? I've tried a million times to sit down and talk about his behavior and still nothing,... I know it could prob be that he gets the least attention but really there is not much I can do about that...

Anyways yes I am much more of a bitch this preg! With my other boys a was a bit ore sensitive and would be more emotional... This time I grew a backbone of steal lol

[Southern Butterfly]

I've been extremely moody lately as well. Up until a couple of weeks ok I was my normal hormonal preggo self but it has definitely gotten worse recently. For me it is due partially to not sleeping, stress over the baby's health, and going crazy not being allowed to do much.

My 10 and 8 year old certainly have their moments where they are at each other but for the most part I've been very impressed with how much they are willing to help out. My eldest will even sometimes fix breakfast or lunch for the other 2 and they've taken on extra chores.

Thorz, the nursery sounds like it's going to be amazing when finished! Can't wait to see pics of the final product.

[Wanting-a-girl]

lucky you southern... i dont know where i went wrong with my eldest... but its issue after issue....

[Thorz300]

Crocheting is actually super easy and I learned how to do it off YouTube lol!

[Southern Butterfly]

lucky you southern... i dont know where i went wrong with my eldest... but its issue after issue....

Hey he's is not all angel, trust me! He went through a horrible phase last year when he was 9 also. It was like he had suddenly turned into a teenager and thought he didn't need to listen or be respectful and sure ended up with quite a few groundings. I wouldn't say you "went wrong" as I think all kids go through phases like this (mine included). Hang in there and I'm sure he will start to turn a corner. I know it's tough though.

[Mel1983]

Anybody else here got to have the whooping cough vaccine?

[fish2012]

Yeah I had it last week really hurts don't have it he side you sleep on!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I would personally refuse vaccines unless their is an outbreak ... But that's my super paranoidness... I have to get rhogam every preg and it freaks me out

I'm going to get the adult pertessis vaccine after he's born... I will also be delaying his shots till at least 6 months... Ds3 just starting his vaccines in june I think I delayed them too long as I was a constant nervous wreck of him getting something... But for me I saw the whole vaccine or delay vaccine a lose lose situation for me and I really didnt want the what ifs

[Girlsway]

This pregnancy I am also moody and annoyed with everything. DH is always of energy which irritates me, he wants to do everything at once,he managed to get the whole house under the reconstruction and frankly I am loosing my cool. I can't find anything, cant use kitchen, everything is dusty and dirty. Just counting days down to holiday. 11 days to go.

[Thorz300]

Ok ladies I have to tell you a little story that happened yesterday. We are a spiritual family, and we pray a lot. As you know I prayed and prayed for a little girl but I also prayed that I would get the baby that was meant for us and that no matter the gender I would love that baby! Well you gals also know my story of how the name Macie Anne just came to me in a dream (sort of) I was sleeping and not even dreaming of a baby at all when all of the sudden I HEARD the name MACIE ANNE out loud and it made me sit straight up from my sleep. This was before I even went to my first gender scan. So when they told me boy, I was sad for a bit, but I moved on quickly getting my life ready for 4 sweet boys. However, I could not shake the feeling that something wasn't right and part of that was "why would I have had that experience with the name Macie if it really was a boy" (you have to remember I wasn't even looking at girl names, because we had had our girl name picked out for the last 10 years) anyhow, as you know later the baby ended up being a girl and then I understood why things just weren't sitting right with me when they said boy. So anyhow, then DH and I couldn't really agree on the name, I wanted Macie because of the spiritual experience I had with it. I truly felt that I was given or told that name, and my husband just chalked my experience up to a mom wanting a girl so bad and having normal dreams about it. I knew better. DH wanted to stick with the name Anessa which we have wanted for years. So for the last 7 weeks we have gone back and forth. Yesterday, he said, "Well we should finally decide on a name, you really like Macie, huh? I don't mind it, but we have been calling our little girl Anessa for years now, and I'm not sure I can switch." Then I explained to him again how I felt about my experience, and he responded, "well what does the name MEAN?" I told him I didn't know and I hadn't looked it up. He looked it up right there on his phone, looked up at me and said, "Macie is the perfect name, her name is Macie with out a doubt!" Then he read the meaning to me. The meaning of the name Macie comes from Matthew and it means "A gift from the LORD" we both got choked up and he now believes my experience with the name was real and not just in my head.

I have since looked up the meaning of Macie myself and have found a lot of different meanings for it but the majority of the websites say it comes from Matthew and means a gift from the lord, so that is the meaning we are going by.

Anyway sorry for the long post, It was just such an neat experience that I thought I would share it. I'm so excited for Macie Anne, my little gift from the lord, to make her debut in our family. Our family will finally be complete!!

[Girlsway]

Thorz that's an amazing story, it's a beautiful name and little Macie is a blessed girl.

[WantingPink]

Here is a 3D photo we had taken yesterday. She is still a girl:) and looks a lot like the boys when they were babies!! I have been looking at their baby photos ever since we got home yesterday.

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[Mel1983]

Those photos are so cute! Ur little girl looks loads like ur first son, even the way the arms are positioned!! Lovely pictures!!!

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz that is such a lovely story! Yeahy can't wait to meet her!

[DLTAG89]

Aw Thorz that was such a lovely story and its great that your name has such a special meaning.

Wow wanting she really does look just like your first son. Arnt the scans amazing, i loved every min of mine :D

I have to have the whooping cough jab next tue and i'm really dreading it, i hate needles and injections. I really hope DH can take an hour out of work to be there with me :( There has been an outbreak of whooping cough in the UK, thats why they are giving it out to expectant mums otherwise i'd be saying no thanks too.

[Thorz300]

What a sweet adorable and perfect pic of your little girl wanting! She looks just like her handsome brothers!!!

[Salsa]

Ladies I have my scan today in about 4 hours to check placenta position (and confirm that this is still infact a girl) I'm quite nervous they will say boy!!! Will post a pic if I get one

[Salsa]

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A couple of pics of my little lady's room... Well we'll know for sure in about 4hrs that she is definitely a she!! Or else the poor Boy will have a rather pink room!!

[Salsa]

Scan went really well. Cheeky monkey was totally covering her face with an arm so no good pic. But I don't care, she's def still a she!! Phew! And placenta is way up out of the way. Plus she is measuring 2 wks ahead. Surprise surprise. Looks like another 10lb baby! Lol so looks like at this stage all is good for my fourth vaginal birth! I've got lots of fluid yet again so the combination of large baby, large placenta and lots of fluid is the reason why I'm looking more like 40wks than 30wks!

[fish2012]

Oh salsa that's a gorgeous room you've been so busy need to get a move on!

Buggy arrived today!!! http://www.kiddicare.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/productdisplay0_10751_-1_136568_10001#description

She better be a she ;/)

[Girlsway]

Salsa your nursery is very stylish. Did you order the name plate or did you make it?

[Salsa]

Thanks fish and girlsway. I ordered it. I'm about as crafty as my 1 yr old lol if Thorz lived closer to me I'm sure she could of whipped something up for me!! Hehe can't wait until I'm holding my little one. Seems like forever that I've had a newborn. This will be my biggest age gap. But it's still under 2 yrs lol

[Salsa]

Fish that buggy is super cute. Don't think we get anything like that here in Australia. Not that I've seen anyway. You're little princess will look so cute in it!! do you have any more scans for her now?

[fish2012]

Hey salsa

Yes scan with my local hospital next Monday hoping it'll go well and be the last so I can just get on with being excited! Agh this is a massive gap to be too 27months there's 15 between ds's ;-s hoping she won't be left out all the time.....still only 3.5yrs top to bottom so hopefully okay

[Salsa]

She'll be fine. She will be totally adored by her big bros. my boys are 16months apart, and I'll have just on 5 yrs from my first (DD) to my last (DD) with the boys on between. Good luck for your scan! I'm sure she'll perform perfectly, as the last scan was certainly heading that way! Keep us updated x x

[DLTAG89]

Aw girlsway the nursry looks very cute and girly :D

We are buying our first house hopefully before sept so for the first time i get to paint and decorate the nursery (we have always been renting so not allowed to paint) and i cannot wait :D

Fish i know its a few days off yet but i hope your scan goes well on monday and then you can sit back and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy.

[Wanting-a-girl]

the nursery looks great :)

not seeing any posts from southern is rather worrying... hope that little man didnt come already!!!!

[fish2012]

Ah daltag that'll be soo cool!

Salsa I guess you always worry before a new baby comes last time I was worried they were too close lol!

Um southern any news hun hope not :-s

[Southern Butterfly]

Aww WantingPink that is such a cute pic of her sweet little face and she does look so much like your DS1!

Salsa I love the nursery, you did a great job!

DLTAG that's so exciting about buying a house! We hope to sell our current home and buy a larger one next year as we are outgrowing this one. There are a lot of fond memories here and we have lots of friends in this neighborhood but at the same time I'm excited at the idea of moving!

Baby boy is behaving himself and staying put, yay! My appt with the pediatric cardiologist yesterday left us with more questions than answers. He said there is definitely an abnormality with the main veins of his heart and possibly the valves as well. It could be one of several conditions but none can be firmly diagnosed until after delivery. They also won't know how severe or mild it is until birth. For now his heart appears to be functioning well in utero which is a huge relief but we won't know how well it does on it's own once he is born and has the added strain of possibly being premature. They will have a cardiologist at the deliver to evaluate him but until then it's pretty much wait and hope that it turns out to be very mild.

Salsa I saw you mentioned also having high amniotic fluid. Did they tell you how much it is measuring? Mine is now up to a 33 and rising. I feel like I'm going to pop as it is!

[Thorz300]

Southern I'm glad that he is staying put, but I'm so sorry that you weren't put at ease. I really hope it is I minor issue and bub is born healthy! Im glad you updated us, I was getting nervous.

Salsa, love the nursery, I have most of my stuff finished for the nursery but we have a renter in that room so I can't put it all together for a few more weeks.

DLTAG buying a house is exciting! I love being able to do whatever I want to do to this house and not worry about a deposit!! LOL its nice to hear from you again!

Im sure I have missed other updates Im too lazy to go back and read everything right now. I'm still feeling really down about my weight, watching the scale shoot up and not being able to do anything about it is really hard. Bed rest really sucks! I'm starting to get the "pregnancy mask" which I have never had before, it is really annoying. Has anyone ever had that and does it really go away after? I hope so. It looks like I have bruises by my eyes and temples but they are just dark patches of skin.....booooo

[Wanting-a-girl]

I weighed myself yesterday thi king I gained nothing in three weeks because i have been extremely active... And nope I gained 5 flipping pounds! Lolhow I'm starting to get down about my weight lol...I have gained 35 pounds! And thats with me not gaining an ounce for the first trimester from morning sickness lol!

Glad he is staying put southern but the heart thing is defiantly stressful! I hope it's something very minor

[Southern Butterfly]

Thank you Thorz and WAG.

I know how you all feel about the weight gain as well. I don't own a scale so only get weighed at the dr. The weird thing for me is that I've had very little appetite over the last couple of weeks. When I'm stressed I can't eat (I know it's not good for the baby :(). Despite this my weight has continued to go up. My clothes are fitting a little looser as well, except for around my belly of course. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps all the extra fluid is the cause? I have to admit though I'm looking forward to getting back to running after baby. I miss it terribly

[Girlsway]

I understand what everyone means about the weight gain. My scales are showing extra 13kg which is 28 pounds and I still have 8 wks to go.

I have a scan tomorrow but I have feeling the weight has stored in wrong places. Otherwise I am very excited to see the little one, its been ages! I hope she is still a girl.

[fish2012]

Oh southern hopefully it's one of those things that turns out to be nothing, I've found the stress has made me either massively over or under eat net result seems to be massive weight gain booo

Getting lots more movement thou which is cool

Girlsway looking forward to seeing the pics!

[Southern Butterfly]

Girlsway, good luck at your scan tomorrow!

Fish will be thinking of you for your scan next week too.

[Wanting-a-girl]

My ob appt is Thursday and it will be mighty interesting as DH is working so I'm taking ds1 and 3 with me and ds3 has some major hatred for drs after all he's been through... I'm basically expecting him to cry the entire time.... Yay me

[Salsa]

Southern I'm so glad to hear he is staying put! They didn't tell me my fluid level, only said that it was good I had a lot as it supports a big baby. I always have a large amount. When my waters break a swimming pool gushes out of me just like the movies!! People always say its nothing like the movies but it is for me lol

[WantingPink]

Southern so glad that baby is staying put but I know you must be worried about the potential of a heart condition. Wait and see is not something I do very well... hope you are doing okay.

I am with you ladies with the weight gain. I have gained 30 lbs and I have 6.5 weeks left!! I don't feel like I am over eating but the lbs keep coming. I have also started swelling a little bit all over which I hate too. I don't have ankles anymore and my hands and face feel very swollen also. The heat isn't helping anything either.

[Thorz300]

WAG not fun to have to take the boys to the appt sorry!

So like I said I am gaining weight super fast because of the bed rest, but really I have lost my appetite for just about everything! I really don't want to eat at all. I know I have to so I do but Im not up for cooking and my mom is no good at it lol so I just eat crap. I hate to be a debbie downer, but am I the only one that is getting really tired of being pregnant? I think I'm going to have my baby shower in 4 weeks so that gives me something to look forward too. I just want my baby girl in my arms already! I think Im so down because I miss DH he has been working so much lately and we never see him. It should be a little better in 2 weeks, when he becomes a 3rd year resident instead of 2nd. They don't have to be on call as much, hopefully!

[fish2012]

Thorz I'm so fed up with this pregnancy never felt like this before, finding it hard to readjust from 37wks when they'd have induced me with the twins to potentially 42 weeks thats another 11 weeks agh

Plus want aug due to school terms plus sick of being tired achy and grumpy ;-(

Not sure why I think I'll be less of a grumpy cow once I have a newborn thou LOL

[DLTAG89]

Southern glad your little man is still nice and comfy and really hoping the his heart is nothing to worry about.

I cant believe some of you only had 6 to 8 weeks left. I still have 12 weeks to go and thats if i dont go over, could even be 14 weeks. My hands and feet have really swollen up too and i cant wear my wedding ring anymore which really upsets me, i feel naked without it but i got it stuck yesterday trying to squeeze.

Its a little stressful here too with DS1 starting school in sept and buying a house too, the pregnancy has taken a bit of a back seat at the min. We have put an offer in for a house though so just crossing our fingers it gets accepted.

I'm going to weigh myself in the morning too, i keep putting it off but since getting back of hols, i'm not looking forward to it :nails:

[Girlsway]

Had the scan today and it's still very much a girl!!! I finally believe it. DH and I will have a daughter and our boys a sister. She was an average size for her gestation they suggested she might be born as 7.5 pounder. The technician was a great guy he scanned DS2 quite a few times too and explained how their machines are checked regularly and they don't cause any harm at all. He said damage would have been done if one was scanned for 6 hours constantly. It was reassuring.

[Girlsway]

Btw is anyone having issues with bladder weakness? Especially in the evening, I have to change clothes on many occasions. Having a cough doesn't help too.

[Southern Butterfly]

WAG how did your appt go?

Girlsway glad your scan went well!

Thorz I am exactly the same way, little appetite and don't feel like cooking at all. It's so hard to come up with things to make for dinner when I don't even want it myself. Usually I end up making something on the simpler side and only eating a few bites. It doesn't help that I've started getting terrible heartburn which is a first ever preggo symptom for me.

I've also been feeling down lately. I think a big part of it is feeling like I'm missing out on spending times with my boys because I'm limited in what I can do. This is my first time being pregnant during summer when the kids are home. This is usually time I cherish spending time doing things with the kids while they're off school and it's just a bummer not being able to do that :(

[Thorz300]

Ugh ladies! I'm been having a lot of Braxton hicks contractions lately and a sharp pain in my side I just figured it was normal pregnancy pains but I was just in the shower and flipped my hair over to put a towel on my hair and noticed blood running down my leg. I do not want to go to the hospital!! Under any circumstances I'm not sure what to do. I put a panty liner on to catch the blood and see if its bright red or brownish as I couldn't tell in the shower because it was diluted with water!

[Wanting-a-girl]

My appt is still 12 hours away.... Can't wait to be over with it... Lol

This is by far the most uncomfortable pregnancy and it's the kind of pregnancy that makes you never want to d it agan lol! I have the worst rond ligament pains! When I'm sleeping anytime I move get them very severe... Last night they made me literally cry lol! I have the worst heartburn! I had the worst morning sickness for the first 12 weeks! My hip is screwed up I limp... My pubic bone feels like a train ran into it... My feet swell...constant contractions... I'm sure there's more I could complain about...


53 more days for me :)

I'm happy the pregnancy is nearing the finish line but I'm so very terrified! My friend brought her newborn over and ds3 hated it! When I held him he lost it... Just a sneak peak into my future I suppose!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Thorz you have to call the dr! What if it's a placenta issue! Is the baby moving around!?

[Southern Butterfly]

Thorz that is so scary! I hope the bleeding stopped, if not then I agree with WAG you should call your doc. Please update when you can!

[Thorz300]

Yep she is still moving lots. I just don't want to spend all of the 4th of July in the hospital just for them to send me home and say, just rest! If the bleeding continues ill go in, if its just a one time thing I'll wait for my dr appt next week.

I know what you mean about being worried! DS3is probably going to be really jealous too. Maybe you can hold more babies in the next little bit to get him used to it.

[Wanting-a-girl]

How is your bleeding now? Just spotting? Brown/red/pink

[Girlsway]

Thorz I hope you stop bleeding by now. I was spotting through out DS 2 pregnancy and I was reassured it was just my cervix reacting to the pregnancy hormones. I hope it's similar for you Thorz. Keep us posted.

It's my last day at work, I am ecstatic!

[DLTAG89]

Thorz hows things now, hope the bleeding has stopped. Could it have been a bit of your mucus plug?

Girlsway glad everything went ok at your scan and your little lady is doing great :D

I'm having bladder trouble too. My bladder seems to pee about 2 mins before my brain tells it too. I'm suffering with hay fever too so every time i sneeze (which is a lot) i get a little leakage, not good.

[Thorz300]

Well I woke up with a lot of blood in my underwear, but I don't know when it happened earlier in the night probably because it was dry. Its red blood and my DH wants me to go get checked out. However, it has been 2 hours since I woke up and I haven't bled anymore. Being that it is the 4th of July, I would have to go to the hospital instead of my dr clinic so I really don't want to go in. I promised DH that if I bled at all today then I would go in, otherwise, I will call the dr tomorrow and see if she wants me to come into the clinic. If I go to the hospital I am afraid I'll be there all day long just for them to say, its hormones and my cervix reacting and to go home and rest.

[Salsa]

Oh Thorz, you poor thing. Hmmmm I'm with your DH on this one. But understand you not wanting to spend all day in hospital only to be told its nothing. Promise us you will call the doc tomorrow though and not wait until your appoint next wk?? Also yes if you get any more today you should head to the hospital regardless. Thinking of you and hope its all stopped x x

[Wanting-a-girl]

Was your placenta covering your cervix at all at your last u/s?

[Wanting-a-girl]

Leaving in ten mins for my appt and I'm annoyed at the fact I have to take these kids! Lol they are gonna be bad! Ds3 was just sedated last week so he's on very bad terms with drs right now lol

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz hope all okay pls call your dr your lill lady would be safe in or out now, we've had a few angel babies in last couple if weeks on baby centre uk so do get it checked out better safe hun

Wag hope appt went well and boys okay

Girlsway whoop whoop for no more work

Daltag I know if I go over I have 11 weeks so fed up ;-( seeing my consultant on Monday gonna ask if they'd induce me at 38 weeks so done with this pregnancy and can't bear the of a sept bubba ;-(

Gloom gloom ;-)

[Wanting-a-girl]

I agree with fish's advice! You would rather be safe... I would rather sit in a hospital for 12 hours and know everything is okay... I personally think the placenta and such needs to be checked! What if theres and issue it could potentially be fatal to her.....


Appt went good Ezra was great couldn't have asked him to be a better... I did however have him strapped into his stroller lol once he saw the appt was not for him the pout left his little face

Dr said I'm looking at an average sized baby...he said I have such a perfect small belly lol

[fish2012]

Wag fab news! Ah the power of the buggy (and snax ;-) what will we do when they won't fit any more?!?

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol I know! Sometimes I still stick ds2 who is seven in the stroller when I really need to get something done and no one to watch him... He wanders and when I say wander he runs out of sight within a second lol and if I say " Hayden wait for mommy please" he states screaming stop it dont hit! Lmao he's repeating what we tell him everyday cause he always hits... But you should see the looks we get...and I'm not the nicest person so I've told my fair share to F off lol... I got stopped in a store by the manager a couple weeks ago chasing him carrying ds3 up escalators I was not in the mood to be questioned lmao

[fish2012]

wag just noticed we have the same due date!

thou you'll be before me ;-S

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol that's cause mine got changed to the 5th :) i used to be the same as southern

[Wanting-a-girl]

I'm praying to go preferably at night when kids are sleeping before my induction lol I have already started my tea 1 cup a day and will start doing 2 at 35 weeks and then 37 I will start primrose I don't want to start that before term just in case cause I'm usually quite dilated before term and don't want this to be pre term

[fish2012]

I've got scan on Monday stating the raspberry leaf tea after that if all looks normal then planning to start the evening primrose at week 36......August please ;/)

[Salsa]

How do you take primrose if you don't mind me asking? I also want this baby to come end of August and will start raspberry leaf tea in a couple of wks.

[Thorz300]

Ugh well this day just keeps getting worse!! I just fell down a full flight of stairs and have a stabbing pain in my side. I can't walk on my own at all and after the fall I was all wet. I'm not sure if I peed myself or if it was fluids so DH is taking the DS1 and DS2 over to a friends house to watch the fireworks and my mom is staying home with DS3 because he is already in bed. After DH drops the boys off at the friends house, he is taking me straight in to the hospital. I hurt really really bad, but I still have ABSOLUTELY no desire to go to the hospital! DH insists and since he is a doctor, I think I should listen to him (even thought he isnt an OB) but combined with the bleeding from last night, it probably is best to get checked out! I feel that she is ok, because I can still feel her moving, but I don't want to take chances with my baby girl, I just HATE going into the hospital!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I'm gonna take my primrose vaginally at night and wear a liner but you can take it orally I just think logically and if its for softening the cervix... Putting it in there will work better right?

Thorz I really hope everything Is okay keep us updated

[fish2012]

Throz hope it's a fuss over nothing think its a good call to head in thou xxx

[fish2012]

Wag, salsa yes I think in v is the recommendation I bought capsules as so much cheaper than the oil so planning orally from 34 wks and in v too from 36 lol no science ;-)

[Salsa]

Thanks WAG and fish. I'll give it a go too! Thorz you poor thing!!! Please keep us informed and sending you healing thoughts!!

[Mum to three girls]

It's been ages since I've posted but I've been reading daily - DH has been away for about 5 days and it's school holidays so it's been crazy busy keeping them all fed, watered and entertained. I've still got AGES to go - 13 ish weeks - but i'm really feeling it now at the end of the day with achey legs and hips. I've put on loads of weight too, to be honest, it does make me wonder where the pregnancy recommendations re weight gain come from. So many women who were in a healthy weight range at conception seem to gain more than the "suggested" 9 -15 kg (or whatever it is); it makes me wonder whether my weight gain is actually normal for me. I do eat more when I'm pregnant but not excessively and it's mainly good food.

I'm sorry for those who are having a worrying time. Southern, it must be so hard not knowing your baby's cardiac status exactly although you're doing a fantastic job of keeping him in there for now. Thorz, I hope everything's OK.

I have no idea based on where I feel kicks etc as to whether this baby is still breech but I really hope not. I don't have another appointment until 29-30 weeks, at 25 weeks he was big ish but I have small/average sized babies so I doubt that will last! People are still commenting that this baby must be due "soon" though and I do look pretty big but I think that's just crap abdominal muscles.

Hope everyone is doing well and that no babies come this month.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Im pretty sure you insert the capsuls... They look basically like vitamin E right?

[fish2012]

Hey good to hear from you mum 23 still have two weeks till the hols here thank goodness ;-)

Thorz any news?

[fish2012]

Wag yeah I have capsules wasn't sure if I should split them and massage oil in? Not sure about the coating left in?!?

Lol you lot are now my choice for would like to meet ;-s

[fish2012]

Okay wag people seem to be suggesting two a day orally and one in v at night on netmums apparently gelatine will dissolve or give the midwife a laugh I guess!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol the only thing that makes me not want to take it orally is people were saying well some people that it makes them sick and such... I can't handle anymore sickness lol I've had enough of that .... But maybe I will start orally at 36 then

[Southern Butterfly]

Mum- good to hear from you and thanks for the encouraging words :)

Thorz- still thinking of you too. I assume since you haven't updated that they may have kept you overnight. Hope you and baby Macie are doing ok!

[WantingPink]

Thorz I know how you feel not wanting to go to the hospital but I am glad you did. I really hope everything is okay. Please update us soon!!

[Thorz300]

Ok back on full bed rest. Baby was a little erratic so they are keeping me 24 hours for observation, she has seemed to calm down now so I think I can leave tonight. Bleeding is from and inflamed and irritated cervix and not the placenta so that's good news! I feel like a train wreck my whole body is sore! I hate being here but I guess it's good because it has made me realize I don't want to have the baby here and I need to set up a tour at the hospital down the road. My hip flat out does not work at the moment :( it's gonna be a rough 12 weeks!

[Southern Butterfly]

I'm so glad everything seems to be ok Thorz! Sorry about the full bed rest but sounds like it's what is best for now. Take it easy and please no more falls!

[Mum to three girls]

That's good, Thorz. Take it easy. I'm impressed by your mum, BTW. There's no way my mother could manage my three for three months.

[fish2012]

Thorz so pleased to hear baby okay so sorry you have all these troubles ;-(
I'm with mum 23 my mum can manage my two for a morning ;-)

[Salsa]

Thorz great to hear!! Rest up and just remember that it's such a short time in the big picture. And you have to do what right to look after yourself and baby Macie x x

[Wanting-a-girl]

Happy the baby is doing well! Bed rest sucks! But you will get through it... Download some good series to watch get some good books..l get lots of Disney movies to watch with the boys

[fish2012]

Bump dropped! Mine has defiantly dropped all ready and I have constant boarder line diaoriaha does this mean anything?!?!

Thorz try n stock up sleep hun you'll need it ;-)

[Girlsway]

Mine dropped too and I feel more pressure on cervix but nothing alarming. DS2 dropped at 32 wks but went up again later.

Thorz if you not sure if your leak is urine or amniotic fluid its worth checking PH as they have completely diffident acidity.

[DLTAG89]

Thorz glad to hear little macie is ok but hope you feel better soon, big hugs x

[Wanting-a-girl]

Nah Ezra and Hayden both dropped very very early and thy were born at 41 and 39 weeks... My bump has always been "low" with this baby. It his head is def not engaged... After your first baby they can bounce in and out of the pubic bone...

[fish2012]

Ah boo 39 wks would do thou ;-)

Off to a hen do wine lasting ;-s really not feeling up for it...........

[Girlsway]

We are getting close to the delivery stage and has everyone decided on names?

[Salsa]

Yes girlsway. We've had Darcey Lyn picked out for years now. Can't believe I'll finally get to use it! Darcey after my fav ballerina Darcey Bussell. And Lyn is both DH and my mothers names. How about you?? I'm 31 wks today.... So over it and just hope these next several wks fly by. I'm sure they will.... I also hope to be induced 38/39 weeks as my last baby was nearly 10lb. So I might only have 7.5wks to go!!

[Thorz300]

Wow you ladies seem to be so far ahead of me. I'm only 28 weeks! Our little one will be Macie Anne. I'm torn because I want to have this baby ASAP but I don't want to wish my summer away, I hate winter time. But then again I'm not getting to enjoy my summer anyway because of bed rest. I've fallen down 3 times since my plunge down the stairs on Thursday. I'm going to my sports medicine dr this week to see if my hip can be put back into the socket, because obviously with all the falling and pain its gotta be out completely.

[Southern Butterfly]

Just a quick update. I am in the hospital have been contracting all afternoon. They have me on magnesium but no luck still contracting every 2 min. At last check a few hrs ago i was 1cm dilated but 90 percent effaced. Have my epi and theyre about to stop thw mag and just let me labor as its doing no good. Baby will probably be here by morning. Will update. Please pray he is healthy.

[fish2012]

Oh my gosh southern keep us updated praying all goes smoothly and he's okay xxx

[Mum to three girls]

Good luck Southern. Hope it all goes smoothly and he is born vigorous and healthy.

[Mum to three girls]

I'm only 28 weeks too Thorz (and maybe only 27plus cos I didn't ovulate till day 18). I do feel for you having to be on bed rest, getting out and about takes my mind off the miseries of the third trimester.

We've got a boy name short list but nothing we both really like. Our three previous boy names we've sort of grown out of.

[queen-bee]

My thoughts and prayers are with you Southern. Your baby is a good gestation, I am sure if he is to make an entrance now, he will be fine. GL

[DLTAG89]

Thinking of you and your little man southern. Hope everything goes well for you and you will be in my thoughts. Please try and keep us updated if you get the chance xx

[Thorz300]

OMG southern, good luck, I hope all goes well. Praying for you and your family that you and your little guy are healthy and everything goes smoothly.

[Girlsway]

Southern good luck, you keep on having your babies early and I am sure he will be fine. Keep us updated.

I look I am full term already and still 5wks to go to full term.
We can't decide on the name, time is running out!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Omg southern I hope he's doing good! I can't wait for your update!

I have 50 days to go!

[Salsa]

Southern all the best!! Really thinking of you and your little man and hope it all goes smoothly for you. Looking forward to your update! I know you must be nervous but I know it will all be fine and soon you'll be cuddling your beautiful boy x x x

[fish2012]

Hey southern any news?

So saw consultant today baby now measuring 33 wks (I'm 31) they are worried I have diabeties so more blood tests! They are going to induce me either 38or39 wks they will assess me on 19 aug to see how favourable my cervix is lol! Just taken raspberry leaf capsules and evening promise washed down with pineapple juice lol!

[Southern Butterfly]

I've managed to stay pregnant thru the night. Just when they were going to give up my ctx started spacing out and have been about 5-6 mn apart. Ive got my epidural as the pain started to become unbearable. The goal is to buy enough time for the steroid shots to kick in and help his lungs. I get my last steroid shot at 8 tonight so hopefully he will stay put til then. My labor has basically stalled at the moment but they will have to stop the mag tonight after being on it 24 hrs and then my labor will most likely get fast and furious from there. Thanks so much for the thoughts and prayers.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Well I'm happy he's styled put cause really everyday counts at this point and the steroid shots are important too!

How are you doing?

[fish2012]

Oh southern that's good news! Hope he stays put till those shots have worked xx

[Salsa]

Southern that's great!!! What a good little boy!! I have my fingers crossed he stay put for the last steroid shot! And hope the delivery go smoothly when it happens x x

[Southern Butterfly]

They've gone ahead and stopped the magnesium and so far my contractions haven't intensified much. I'm in shock but this little one may stay in another day if things don't pick up again! I'm so happy to be off the mag as it makes me sooooo sick. Everyone's positive thoughts seem to be working. Thank you :-)

[Wanting-a-girl]

Yay I hope it stalls as long as possible :)

Are you dilated any more now?

I've heard magnesium makes you very sick :( doesn't sound fun at all

[Mum to three girls]

That's fantastic, Southern!

[Southern Butterfly]

They haven't checked me again because they don't want to prod around down there and risk making things worse. As long as my waters don't break, contractions get a lot worse, or I feel pressure my OB wants to leave things alone.

[Thorz300]

I'm glad he is still hanging in there!!! The longer the better! Keep us updated! I hope you are able to get some rest! Thinking of you!

[Girlsway]

Southern that's good news, I hope your little one decides to stay for a while longer. I hope you are not too exhausted from it all and you managed to get a good rest at night. Thinking of you.

[DLTAG89]

Glad to hear you both doing well southern. You must be worn out though, are they keeping you in hospital? Thinking of you x

[Girlsway]

Had some last meetings at work today and that's it! I can be with my boys now and we can enjoy the last month and a half or so together before the little one arrives. Off on holidays on Thursday but I will be checking your posts.

[WantingPink]

Southern I really hope your little one can stay put long enough. Must be hard to just wait and see what happens. Keeping my fingers crossed for you and your little man!!

[fish2012]

Girlsway that's fab news congrats! I've got a pay nice today while on mat leave and my friends decided to organise me a baby shower!
Good news all round today!

Southern thinking of you hope all going well guess your stuck in the hospital hope your managing to rest xxx

[DLTAG89]

Aw girlsway i bet thats a huge weight off your shoulders. Can put your feet up a little now too :D

Aw fish i bet that was lovely, was it a suprise baby shower? Did you get lots of pink too.

Went to see the midwife today for the whooping cough jab and they didnt have any, had my bloods done tho and nearly passed out :(. On the plus side the little lady is still head down and has been since 26 weeks so fingers crossed she stays that way.

[fish2012]

Daltag that's great news! The shopping cough hurts you were saved ;-) she's just decided to organise it not sure when it'll be no one irl knows its a girl but maybe I should tell them ;-)

[fish2012]

http://wrylilt.hubpages.com/hub/Ways-to-induce-Labour-Naturally

40 ways to induce labour! Some new ones to me!

[Southern Butterfly]

Girlsway- I know it feels great to spend time with your boys and prepare for your baby girl!

Fish- how exciting for your shower. I would tell them it's a girl if it were me!

I'm still hanging in there. Had an ultrasound done to check my cervix and the doctor said it was so thin he couldn't even see it on the screen. Basically not much keeping baby in but I'm happy for every hour I stay pregnant. No hope of going home before baby comes so I'm stuck on hospital bed rest. I'll have to live vicariously through all of you and the things you all are doing!

How is everyone else feeling? Anyone else getting anxious? Even though I always wanted 4 kids it has only recently hit me that "OMG I'm going to have 4 kids!". Sounds silly but as it gets really close the reality is hitting. I know it's going to be a blast but there will be challenges too... eek

[Wanting-a-girl]

Very happy ur preg still :) I hope you make it til 32 at least

I'm feeling rather annoyed a this second lol kids are driving me insane ... I want to lock myself in a closet
I've been having a lot more contractions the past 3 days now... I'm not too worried about them they never turned into the real deal with the others so I wouldn't expect it this time but I will get checked if the start regulating obviously

[Wanting-a-girl]

I was thinking of doing labor and delivery alone this time well with drs and nurses... People think I'm nuts but DH is going to have to stay with ds3 I think cause he has too much separation anxiety and I. Not traumatizing him... Anyways DH is useless anyhow so I don't care... But there is no one I care to share this with... It's a big day... And I shouldn't share it with people I don't want to... My flipping cousin literally has kept inviting herself to the birth! The last person I want there... My best friend lives 8 hours away and she won't make it obviously :( my mom... I don't know we're not on the best terms right now.... Do people do this alone or am I crazy? Cause it actually sound nice lol other than the fact there would be no one to take pictures of the little guy....

[fish2012]

The midwives would take a picture for you, I couldn't do it on my own I have to say I will kill my dh if he doesn't make it ;-) however better to have no one than someone who's going to put you on edge in my opinion!

Southern glad your still there! Yes I'm thinking if people are going to get gifts it's daft not to tell them ..........might see what dh thinks

[Mum to three girls]

Well done Southern!

WAG, I read somewhere that mammals tend to retreat to their "safe zone" when in labour and that obviously, that place is different for everyone. For some people that's at home, for others in hospital etc. So if you would feel more relaxed knowing that your DS3 is with your DH then I don't think that's crazy at all! Everyone's labour "space" is very individual.

[Southern Butterfly]

I agree with Mum and Fish, you need to do whatever is going to help you feel the most calm and relaxed for labor. I'm sure the nurses would be happy to take plenty of pics.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Thanks :) .... I just think having ds3. Somewhere I know he's not going to be happy is just going to stres me out beyond belief...I don't know maybe I will make my mom come... Just invade their we're complications...

Are you still preg southern?

[Thorz300]

Ugh it's only 8 am and I'm ready for the day to be over!! I'm ready to tie up all 3 and make them watch shows for the rest of the day..... They are all being so naughty and I don't have the patience for it!!

[Salsa]

Thorz I hear you. I've just had such a tough day with mine. I'm so over being grumpy at them, but it's school holidays here and I wanted to make use of that time to get a few things sorted around the house in preparation for the baby. I don't get much of a chance during the school term as I am so busy every day with the kids hobbies and activities. Problem with staying at home in the hopes of being productive, I have 3 kids climbing up the walls driving me spare!! I just get nothing done when they are around! Soooooo frustrating!! I feel I'm always grumpy and yelling at them which I hate even more than they do!! Ok, little rant over!! I hope your day ends up being better than mine was! I couldn't even get kids outside to burn off some steam as we had a really rainy day here. Fingers crossed tomorrow is a little smoother

On another note-I think I may have a UTI. It really hurts when I pee, and I'm getting some achy pain low down in my pelvis. Will try and see my doc tomorrow if they'll fit me in. So uncomfortable, just adding to my grumpiness!!

Thinking of southern and hoping things are going ok??

[Wanting-a-girl]

Def get that checked out salsa ... Don't want any pre term labour ... In the mean time drink tons of water...

[DLTAG89]

My boys were a nightmare yesterday, must be the hot weather but the argued over everything all day. Thankfully they have been a little better today. Had a visit from DS1's teacher and they loved him which is good. Its crazy here at the min, i don't possibly think more could be going on in our life. Buying a house, having a baby, DS1 starting school and i'm learning to drive. Most people don't do all that in a lifetime let alone all at the same time.

Thinking of southern too, wonder how her and the little man are doing.

[Wanting-a-girl]

My crazy bitch of a neighbour strikes again and this time hit me where it hurts! She called family and children services saying that I don't watch my kids lmao made laugh cause I'm a crazy over protective mother lol...but I am sooooo mad! I want to kill her! Like really I'm a good parent and she's just trying to cause problems for people she is insane! Last week the cops were called on her cause she was yelling racial slur at an 8 year old! Now I live in a good upscale neighborhood well upper ... And this is shit I would not expect! And I have to live next to her! What am I going to do we don't have money to move but is she gonna keep doing things like this! What is she getting from this!?

[fish2012]

Wag does she have kids? Sounds like the green eyes monster to me ;-s

I don't have gestational diabeties yeahy

Daltag it's not even that hot were just so not used to it my two are driving me insane too!

[Wanting-a-girl]

She has older kids like in their 20's she's lived here over a year now and seemed perfectly normal and nice and for some reason has turned into a psycho! How can someone just tell lies especially where kids are concerned! if my kids got taken away cause she's a liar I wont say what I think I would do but I'm sure you can all have a good idea

[fish2012]

Okay so feel size of house confirmed when two people have said to me when are you due and I've said 5th and they've assumed August ;-s


How's everyone else doing?

Wag hope your neighbour has settled down

Southern awaiting a birth announcement with excitement and dread ;-s praying for your lill man xx

[Southern Butterfly]

I know those days are hard when all the kids seem to be acting up. We've all been there and it's hard but tomorrow is always a new day.

Salsa- hope you got to the doctor, let us know how it goes.

WAG- sorry you're still having to deal with that crazy lady. Just not fair you have to go through that at you own home, which should be a safe peaceful place.

Everyone, including myself are in shock that I'm still pregnant. I've started to have more cramping and mild contractions today but the meds seem to be helping to keep them from getting into a pattern. Basically it's one day at a time.

[Girlsway]

33 wks this weekend, time is ticking. Our house is upside down with building work nowhere ready for an early arrival. Despite looking like I could give birth (that's what my father in law thinks too) I have a feeling she might be late or right on time. But if I am wrong and she is early and the house is not finished we are in trouble.
Those who have c-section planned how long do you have left?

[Girlsway]

Souther you posted at the same time as me. I am glad your little one is staying put. I hope hospital is not too boring for you, but its good to be safe.

[fish2012]

Southern that's good news!

Girlsway I'm 32 wks probably gonna be induced at 38 seems soon now! Think you're first due date xx

[WantingPink]

Southern so glad that you and the little one are hanging in there. Thanks for updating!!

I have a C-section scheduled for Aug 19th... about 5 weeks away. I have so many things to do and I keep adding to my to do list. I really want to make some infant hair bows. At my 32 week ultrasound the tech said this little one already has a lot of hair so I would love to have some cute bows to put in her hair. I guess you can make them with velcro so they will stay in baby fine hair. I have to learn about all these girly things:)

[Mum to three girls]

WantingPink I have three girls (obviously) and I've never done anything special with their hair when they've been young. DD1 and 2 are at school and have to have their hair up so I've had to become a bit more inventive. My girls and most of their friends are usually far too busy running/jumping/biking around to sit around playing with their hair!

Well done baby Southern.

I'm worried about four as well, I feel like I've only just got the hang of three and on some days it's pretty busy/intense. Overall though I'm excited and there's a a sense of peace in knowing this is definitely our last baby.

[Salsa]

Wow Southern!! That's fantastic!! Every day at this stage is a massive step forward!! Well done.

I'm all good here. No UTI so not sure what the pain was but its all gone now. Hope everyone else is going well

[fish2012]

Oh salsa that's good news!

Southern still hanging on? Hope so

Boys up till 10 at wedding last night but why oh why don't they lie in ;-s

[DLTAG89]

Great news southern, glad to hear your both doing well and hope hospital isnt too bad for you x

I still have about 10 weeks to go, i'm 30 weeks today. Does anyone else feel totally unprepared. I know i've got ages left but not knowing even which house this little lady will be born into is really stressing me out. Dont not feel ready at all, hope i feel a little better in the next few weeks.

[Salsa]

DLTAG I felt that way a few weeks ago. But have really made a dent in the things I needed to do b4 she gets here that I'm feeling a lot better about it now. I have a schedule for my remaining jobs too which also helps me see it all fitting in before d day. But it must be hard when you're still unsure as to where you'll be living!!
I'm also in full swing of planning major renos and extensions to our house starting 4wks after she is born, so I sort of know the chaos you're feeling!

[Salsa]

Fish my boys would be exactly the same!!!! No matter how late they go to bed they are ALWAYS up around 5am!!! ALWAYS!! So this is why I'm so strict on them going to bed so early. It makes no difference in the morning and I need to feel I get a break from them at night b4 it all starts again lol my DD is great though. She has always loved her sleep so will sleep in at any chance!

[Salsa]

It's oh so quiet here! Hoping everyone is well and Southern I hope you're hanging in there but if not, I can't wait for your birth update. Your little man has done soooooo well to make it this far. Well done!
Not much is happening here. Although I'm now in full nesting mode. I have washed ass baby clothes, linen, blankets etc etc plus washed down and cleaned basinet, baby swing and baby rocker as all these things have been given to friends to borrow and then returned to me for my little one. I've even gone as far as making up the basinet mattress with linen and then putting a sheet over it all so it won't get dusty over the last several weeks! Lol yes I'm in overdrive! Not much else to really do, although I have a big list of things to keep me busy up until birth, but if they don't get done they're not essential. Last thing that has to happen is clean all the carseats and put the babyseat in rearward facing. Which is getting done next wk and then I'm set!

[Southern Butterfly]

I'm still hanging in there. We had a bit of a scare last night when my contractions started up about every 3-5 minutes again but a shot of turbutaline nipped them in the bud and they died down. I haven't been on much because I've honestly been pretty depressed being here in the hospital. Staying positive is becoming harder so I'm just trying to take it one day at a time.

Salsa glad you don't have a UTI. Maybe just pressure from the baby is causing the pain?

Girlsway wow only 5 weeks!! I think you are the first due in this group right? And WAG is right behind you on AUG 27. So exciting :)

[Wanting-a-girl]

Southern how many weeks will they keep trying to stop the contractions? Will they wait until ur 37? There's no way they will let you do at home bed rest? I can imagine that being depressing I couldn't do it! I wouldn't survive being way from ds3!

My neighbour is still being evil... She threw a bag of dog shit in my garbage can so I threw it on her porch she put it back in my garbage and I put it back and she put it back the DH went and knocked on the door and the daughter who is like 25 I'm guessing answers the door and DH is taking whatever and I did t know he was talkin to her til I went to the front yard and when I saw. Just lost it lol I couldnt be held back I ended up walking away after five mins of losing it cause I don't want to put the stress on the fetus...ended up talking to the mother too and she basically admitted to calling cps on us because I called animal control on her but she doesn't know it was me and it was a confidential call so really she doesn't know it was me.... She basically said she will keep calling and I basically told her congrat on being a crazy lunatic lol... What can't do lol... Shes lucky I'm pregnant and lucky that I would never sacrifice losing my kids over her

[fish2012]

Hey southern glad your little mans still in, I can't imagine being in the hospital that long, come on and bitch and moan we don't mind. Who's looking after the boys must be so stressful for the whole family

Salsa you are so organised! Boys last week at preschool so have two days to get everything set ;/)

Going in on 19 aug to have my induction praying I might go into labour myself on 18th but boys late so unlikely ;-)

Wag oh some people are just the end ignore her she is not worth the time xx

[fish2012]

Agh just squeezed wedding rings off finger now even more swollen ;-s

Ladies where are you?!?

[ladylaura1990]

Evening Ladies hope all are well. Southern, hope you boy holds out for you and hangs on inside for a while longer to gain some fat and develop his little lungs more.
Ive not been on much, only had mobile access, but now back on the laptop.
Im 31 weeks tomorrow and dont feel yet ready! Just sorting my last bits like hospital bag ect, as going a few hundred miles away for a week camping in 2week and been advised by the midwife to take my notes and hospital bag.. JUST INCASE :suprise:!!
Had frequent weekly check ups to check protein and blood pressure, today I had a trace of protein in my wee, could this be caused by a UTI? Just i have bad pre-eclampsia with my DD1 and trying to stay positive and think of other reasons to the protein.

xx

[DLTAG89]

Southern its great to hear you and the little man are doing ok. How long are they going to keep stopping labour for. He must really want to meet his mummy :D

WAG your neighbour sounds like a total nightmare, i thought mine was bad with her all night parties every weekend but at least she keeps to herself. She sounds like she needs a good slap lol.

My fingers are the same, they look like sausages so i've not been able to wear my wedding ring for 2 weeks now :(

salsa can you come to mine and do that too. I dont think i've done anything like that, we are still buying the last few bits and dont even have a moses basket, ill be getting some more bits this weekend. I have made a start on my hospital bag tho so that's 1 thing at least.
Had my whooping cough jab today too and my arm hurts pretty bad, almost like someones given me a really good punch in it, hope it feels better tomorrow.

[fish2012]

Oh no! When will you get results have fingers crossed for you xx

[Southern Butterfly]

WAG- I don't know how you put up with that witch! Have you considered calling the police for harassment?

Fish- I didn't realize you were being induced on Aug 19. Wow won't be long until there are a bunch of birth announcements around here!

Lady- Hope you get good news. I didn't think protein in the urine was related to a UTI but I could be wrong. Let us know!

DLTAG- I know how you feel, shots are no fun and I've been a human pin cushion for over a week now.

My doctor said I have to stay until I deliver or until 34 weeks, whichever comes first. I had an ultrasound today which showed that I'm completely effaced and am almost completely dilated internally, but there is a very small part of my cervix left externally (what a doctor can feel during an exam) which appears to still be about a 2. Most of the work is already done so it won't take but a few good contractions and we could have a baby pretty quick. The meds are still holding things off for the moment, keeping them far enough apart that they hopefully won't continue to make progress on my cervix.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Well I really hope he holds off for two more weeks! I know some babies born at that age and got to go home right away with their mommies :) sounds like you are going to have a super insane fast labour! Are you on complete bed rest do they let you take some little walks or anythign

[Wanting-a-girl]

My hands don't swell thank god! But my feet do... My end of pregnancy ice craving is about full force now ... Happens everytime lol

42 more days at most for me... Getting so close it's scary lol

[Southern Butterfly]

I know the countdown has begun for several of you ladies. So exciting!!!

I'm only allowed to get up to use the bathroom and for showers I have to use a shower chair so I'm not standing. If I need to be transported such as for ultrasounds I have to use a wheelchair.

[Mum to three girls]

Either way Southern, there's less than two weeks to go of this intense bed rest! I'm sure each day feels like a thousand hours long though.

Ladaylaura, a trace isn't really anything to worry about and is still within acceptable amounts for all people, pregnant or not, especially first thing in the morning or if the urine is a bit concentrated. Given your history Im sure your obstetric team will watch things more closely but I wouldn't personally worry at all yet.

I can't believe how organised everyone is getting, I've really done nothing at all yet. I'm only 29 weeks though so there's ages to go with me yet. I stop my 2 days/week of work at 35 weeks so I'll probably get started then.

I've just started having horrendous reflux and still have a very high bump, have a check up next monday but I'm pretty sure he's still breech. Had my glucose challenge last week and haven't heard which I'm hoping is good news.

Fish, why are you being induced again? It's hard to believe that some of us will be having babies next month (or maybe this month, Southern!)

[Wanting-a-girl]

Must be rough :( I don't think I would be able to stay in bed all day everyday it would be very hard!

I officially have everything ready :) I'm only 33 weeks geez that sounds further away then 42 days that's for sure! This pregnancy has been my most hellish pregnancy and I'm looking forward to it being over which usually I love being preg lol... I can def say I would never want to be pregnant again at this point...

I'm still struggling to mentally prepare for the pain of labor... I get painful contractions many times a day and have been trying to use them to help me prepare but I don't think it working

[fish2012]

Hey southern oh that sounds so rough really hope he makes a few more weeks so you can take him straight home with you

Wag my hands and feet are like elephants! Lucky you ;/)

Mum23 oh really I don't know! I think they are just being over cautious but its been such an awful pregnancy I just want it over with now ;-s

[Girlsway]

I feel the same, this pregnancy is a struggle. I find everything difficult and have no energy. Dh is full of beans and he cant understand why I am miserable.

GP called yesterday that the swab results I had recently show I still have thrush, I had it pretty much the whole pregnancy (so annoying). Now they are sending me for the glucose test to see any connection.

Southern I am glad you are hanging there. Do you have at least something good to watch or read? I know it has to be so boring but you are doing great job, keep us update.

Fish, your induction is so soon, why is that, which week will it be?

WAG what a nightmare with your witch neighbor, once you have your baby then you can try to sort it out but i have a feeling she wont change.

Mom to 3, as you I am not prepared at all. The house is under the reconstruction and we are away now for 2 weeks. Builders warned us the house wont be ready till mid Aug which will leave me with 2 weeks time to prepare if i go as far as the due date. I wish I could be at home organizing things and making the nursery up. :-(

[fish2012]

Hey

Lovely lunch with friend and bubba feeling much more cheerful about life!

Girlsway they'd like to induce me in wk 38 or the week after if my cervix doesn't seem favourable when they check on 19th ;-s I'm a bit mixed about it cause I don't want to be Induced but I do want to have an August baby and after all the dramas I just want to see her and know she's okay as soon as I can! My consultant is worried cause pregnancies that were twins are more risky he can't quantify why just that they are ;-s not the best I do to try and make decisions on, normally I'm very anti any intervention but this pregnancy has really worn me down ;-s

[Wanting-a-girl]

My prob is I don't have energy but the nesting urge is ridiculous for weeks now... My house is immaculate at all times which normally not so much lol... And I also can't sleep in its like an alarm goes off in my head at 8 telling me to clean lol... So I never get to sleep in:(

As for my neighbour no she's not going to change... She's complaining about how our other neighbour had two parties two days in a row... Which is ridiculous seeing how these two parties were dinner parties they are Muslim and don't drink smoke or do drugs.. I believe they were celebrating Ramadan ... Now good news is I can be quite the bitch myself so game on!;)

[fish2012]

Wag she sounds a muppet, suggest she needs job/pet/child/interest maybe buy her a lovely gift like chickens ;-)

[DLTAG89]

I think maybe a bit of nesting has kicked in today, i've set the pram up (not that its much use as we will have to take it apart again when we move) and been through all the baby things. Also slowly sorting through the boys toys ready for moving as most of them are not coming with us.

They said we should be in the new house by the 9th of sept so that gives us about 2 weeks until my due date. I never thought i would say this but i really hope shes not early. So stressed out with all of this and all DH can say is "dont worry i wont let anything bad happen", grrr men.

[ladylaura1990]

Thanks for the reassurance RE protein, i think because I had such a bad time with pre-eclamsia last time im worrying its going to come back, but il count my blessing so far my pregnancy has been lovely, Ive enjoyed every minute and had a really easy time.

Cant believe some of you ladies will have your little bundles with you soon, its come around so quick for me.

Has every one set their hearts on a name x

[Girlsway]

Fish that makes sense about your induction, you might be one of the first holding your little on in your arms.

We've finally decided on the name, which I love and DH agreed. Its Diana (I always liked the name) but I worry the royal couple might take it before us and we wont be able to use it. Kate is due any day now so we will see soon, but DH thinks they 100% wont take it.

[Salsa]

Dltag - wow that's exciting about the move!! Try not to stress, it will all fall into place!

Southern - you're doing amazingly well!! I take my hat off to you! Your little man is doing great!! I bet you're sick of it all, but hang in there a little while longer!

WAG - silly neighbour!! Try not to let her bother you - I know easier said than done when there is no escaping her! Crazy women

who have I missed??
Fish - you're induction date is fast approaching - exciting times!

I hope, and so does my OB to be induced at 38 weeks - which is another 6 weeks for me. Prob 6 weeks tomorrow if I had a choice! Which would give me a date of 30th August!! Cant believe I could be having her next month!
Which brings me to my next question - I know we discussed a little while ago (but cant seem to find it now in the thread) about red raspberry leaf tea and primrose oil...
I have now bought both and wanted to confirm when to start using them and how much,.

I was thinking of starting the tea now, 1 cup a day at first, then 2 then build it up to 3 cups a day.
But when should I start the primrose oil?
And should I start orally first from about 35 wks, then when Im about 36-37 weeks insert vaginally at night?

How does that sound?

[fish2012]

Girlsway I think you'll be safe with that fab name!

[Girlsway]

Thanks fish, i hope they wont take it as middle name.

I know salsa, wag and thorz have already decided on the names. Has anyone else chose theirs?

[fish2012]

Ugh went in bank with boys they were monkeying a lill but not really they only had one cashier and the women in front of me took forever and as she leaves she says you must be hoping for a girl grrr nearly slapped her!

Salsa Ive been taking the raspberry leaf capsules from 31wks (think wags doing the tea) all herbal teas make me wanna puke ;/) I've been taking one capsule three times a day (it says you can take up to six so will double dose next week when I'm 34 wks) I'm taking evening primrose one capsule three times a day (again will dbl dose from 34wks and internally from 36 wks)

So yeah your plan sounds good to me thou the evening primrose is giving me boarder line diaoriaha ;-s

[fish2012]

Um girlsway it's possible but they normally have about a million middle names so i wouldn't worry if they do tbh

Our girls name is Naomi Elizabeth only slight concern that ds2 is Noah and it might be a bit similar but I love it so much more than anything else I don't think I care! Boys names Benjamin or Daniel middle name Albert

[Girlsway]

Naomi Elizabeth sounds nice Fish, I wouldn't worry about similarity to DS2. I gave up to a name which was similar to DS1 for DS2 and I regret it now. Go with what you like the most.

On a different subject, I want to ask you ladies how supportive do you find your DHs with this pregnancy. Mine thinks I should be able to carry on as before pregnancy and doesn't have much sympathy. He is a nice guy and a good dad but has never given me much support during pregnancies.

[Wanting-a-girl]

My DH has never been a supportive pregnancy partner lol than god I'm not emotional this preg and it doesn't upset me...

DH went for his consult with the surgeon today and the big V is booked for Oct 30 :)

I have an ob appt tomorrow... I terrified to see how much I've gained lol

[Salsa]

My DH is great. But I do have to spell it out to him! Lol but he is very supportive and doing a lot of extra stuff with the kids. He's staying home a bit longer in the mornings to help at breakfast time and he makes sure he's home around bath time so I'm not leaning over the bath bathing 3 crazy kids at the end of my day. I can't complain-but like I said, he wouldn't be doing all that if I had kept my mouth shut!! Lol like a typical man he doesn't often see what's going on unless its spelt out to him! Yesterday I had a really bad day. My youngest is sick and the older 2 were just going mental as I was basically held hostage with my youngest. So he took the older 2 for a couple of hrs in the Arvo to his work (he has his own company and his offices are only 3 mins away) it was a life saver! But I'm sure he didn't get anything productive done! Still it's all about teamwork here! It was both of our decisions to have these kids so close in age, and while I'm so heavily pregnant he doesn't see it a problem to help out a bit!

[DLTAG89]

Salsa do you want to share your DH. Mines pretty useless and also needs everything spelling out to him (and more). Hes a good dad and hubby but not very hands on. I've been making him help out with bath time tho as poor bump gets squashed against the bath. Hes also stressing me out with the move as he seems to think its him having the baby and going through the birth too and he cant understand why i'm so panicky about moving being 35+ weeks pregnant or with a new born baby.

We also have a name picked, Evelyn Lilly Janis (Lilly after my nan, Janis after DH mum and also L.J are my initials). Evie for short too.

I was going to start on the raspberry leaf tea (have some in ready) next week when i'm 31 weeks but want to try and put labour off as long as possible so worried about doing anything that could make me go into labour early as the longer she stays in, the longer we have to move.

[Girlsway]

Salsa you are right, things have to be spell out to men but its tiring constantly reminding them what to do. I have to say my DH does a lot whenever he can, but as yours he has to be managed. He works long hours so he agreed we keep our nanny (I was working full time) so she can help when little one arrives, which is great. I wonder how will it be with three, its going to be reality so soon. How did you guys find it after your third was born, how did you cope? Any tips to make life easier?

[Mum to three girls]

Three for me wasn't as big a jump as from one to two. DD2 was at kindy when DD3 was born and now the big girls are both at school which makes it easier. The main difference is that I'm just a bit more organised. For example all three of them are feral after school so I try to get dinner at least semi-sorted during the day and make sure the after school snacks etc are ready for when they're home. Otherwise I find I'm trying to help DD1 with homework, placate a grumpy tired and hungry toddler, bring in washing and cook dinner all at the same time. DH is usually home to help with bath and bed and we're pretty ******lined now.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Ya I found transitioning to number three the easiest as my older two were in school and it basically seemed like I only had one kid for most of the day... Which was great for bonding but now I can't keep ds3 off of me lol constantly hugging and kissing :) I'm very worried about number 4 I think it's going to devestate ds3

I've been drinking my tea since a could days befor 30 weeks.. It won't put u in labour it's gonna strengthen your uterus s when you do go into labour your contractions are more productive therefore reducing risks of interventions like c section and suction

[DLTAG89]

Thanks WAG, i took it with DS2 and he was a day late where as i didnt have it with DS1 and he was 2 weeks early. I never thought i'd say this but i dont want her to come early lol.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Ya I didn't take it with ds1 and he was over 2 weeks early I drank it with ds2 but wow that labour story is a mess lol I went into labour with him at 36 weeks before I drank the tea I dilated to 5 and hen it stopped and he ten made his appearance like a bat out of hell at 41 weeks with a 30 min labour 2 hours before my induction lol ds3 I was induced at 39 and started the tea I'm pretty sur at 36 or 37 and that's why I wanted to start it early this time thinking maybe it will help a tad in getting me to have him before induction even I it's an hour before I will be happy... I will be starting the primrose at 37 I think just cause it actually causes your cervix to change (soften) and I don't want him pre mature a bit

[Salsa]

Girlsway, I also found the jump from 2-3 easier than 1-2. But my 2 older children arent of school age. Infact only 1 is at Kindy which is just 2 days a week!! So I basically will have the 4 kids at home all day every day (minus 1 child for 2 days) until feb next year!! Going to be a long 6 months! And even then I'll still have 3 at home all the time!
But my second was a really difficult baby. Reflux and chronic ear infections resulting in multiple sets of grommets starting from 6 mths, and tonsils and adenoids out!! Plus I had thyroid surgery when he also was 6months!! So it was a challenging start with him! He still has some challenging ways!! But my third came along and was and still is such a breeze!! He's so delightful!! So I have put in an order for another one just like him!! Lol easy going and placid!!

[Thorz300]

Hi ladies, I hope every one is doing well! Southern how are things going? I haven't been on here in about a week, not even to read what is going on with everyone. Sorry!

I have fallen into a really deep depression and I think maybe talking through it with you ladies (since this is all anonymous) I might start to feel better. I haven't told a soul about this not even family members, or my BFF's and I normally tell them EVERYTHING but this is too HORRIBLE for me to even tell them.

I had a very horrifying experience........about a week ago I was having a painful day and I told my mom that I needed to go to the store for milk and cereal but that I was going to go take a quick rest/nap first. I did just that I went upstairs to take a nap, about 30 min to 45 min later DS1 who is 6 came in my room and asked me where DS2 was (age 4), I told him that DS2 said he wanted to watch a show so he was in the tv room. I then checked the clock and decided I would sleep for another 30 min.......about 10 min later DS1 came running upstairs and told me DS2 really needed my help in the CAR!!!!! I sat straight up, I yelled "why is he in the car????" It was 95 degrees outside! I ran (dislocated hip and all) as fast as I could down the stairs and into the garage. DS2 was sweating from head to toe, totally drenched his whole body was beet red and he was weak and couldn't speak right. He couldn't complete sentences. I carried him in the house put him in front of a fan and got him ice water, gatorade, and popsicles to cool him down. I got my phone and started dialing his doc but unfortunately, I realized really quick that if I made that phone call, CPS would for sure be called, and I would lose my children. I called DH instead, since he is a doctor (although not a pediatrician) and I couldn't get a hold of him. I called 2 of my sisters who are both nurses, and 1 of them is and ER nurse but I couldn't get a hold of them either. However, I noticed in the time it took to try to get a hold of all those people, his color was going back to normal, he wasn't shaking as much and his speech was getting better. So I decided that I would give him a cool bath and if that made a huge difference, I would just monitor his progress, but if it didn't drastically help him then I would call the doc and have to face the consequences because having him taken away would be better than having him die or have serious problems from this. He couldn't walk himself to the tub his energy level was just not there. I got him undressed and into the tub and I was ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED AT WHAT I SAW He has bad bruises/abrasions on his shoulders and legs where his seat belt was and also on his back/spine (what had happened was, he heard me tell my mom I was going to go to the store, he wanted to go with me so he went and got in the car in the garage and put his 5 point harness seatbelt on. He can put it on himself but he cannot take it off on his own yet) Anyhow I lost it when I saw all those abrasions I just started sobbing right then and there, I couldn't control it. Seeing those abrasions and bruises painted a very graphic picture in my head of what he must have been going through, the terror and fear he must have felt, the excruciating heat (it had to be 100 or more degrees in the car), he must have been screaming for me and I wasn't coming!!!! My poor baby boy, still a week later, writing this is so hard for me...... Luckily by the end of his bath time he was splashing and playing and feeling much better. He had enough energy to walk now but he said it hurt to walk on his foot. So I let him get cozy on the couch with fans and watch tv for the rest of the day (he was really exhausted) I just monitored him and made sure he didn't fall asleep. I felt if he fell asleep things might get worse. DH called me back and was frantic when I told him what had happened but he thought that everything I did was good and agreed that CPS would have been called had I called the dr. When DH got home he took all his vitals and gave him a very thorough physical check over. Luckily everything was ok and he is going to be just fine. The only thing is he may have sprained his foot from kicking the chair in front of him.......

This whole experience really has taken a toll on me, I can't shake all the thoughts of "what ifs......" What if DS1 hadn't gone out to look for him..... I wasn't planning on going to the store for another half hour....... I can't shake the terrifying thoughts of what was going through my little guys head and his feelings of terror, fear, and abandonment. This made me spiral into thoughts of, how can I even think of having a 4th baby when I can't even keep track of the ones I have???!!! I know I am a very very good mother and many of my friends think I am over protective.....How could this possibly happen, how could I be peacefully sleeping while my baby was struggling for his life!!!

So after talking to DS1 and my mom, this is what happened.......DS2 asked me if he could watch a show, I told him if he cleaned 20 toys he could watch 1 show... Then I walked upstairs, as I was going upstairs, I told my mom I needed to go to the store but needed to rest first. What I didn't hear was DS2 say "I want to go to the store with mommy" (I didn't hear it because by the time he said it, I was upstairs and he was downstairs in the tv room) My mom and DS1 heard him say that because they were both downstairs too. My mom was making herself some lunch and she did notice he wasn't downstairs, but thought he went upstairs to be with me until I was ready to leave (he often will come be by me during my naps and just watch a show in my room, so that is what my mom thought he was doing). DS1 is my little hero!!!!!! He saved his brothers life. He wanted to play with him and he too thought that DS2 was with me so that is why he came upstairs, to get him to come play. When he saw he wasn't with me he asked me where he was, and I told him that he was in the TV room. He checked in the tv room and didn't find him. And then, in DS1's words "Something just told me to go check in the car.....I don't know why" When he got in the car DS2 cried for him to HELP!! DS1 unbuckled his car seat for him and ran in to get help! What a HERO!!! I truly believe that a higher power was involved in this I believe DS was guided to the car to help his brother! I am so very grateful that he is healthy and perfectly ok but things COULD HAVE turned out so so so much differently and if DS1 hadn't been inspired to go look in the car I might not have my beautiful boy with me....... I don't know exactly how long he was stuck in the car (somewhere between 10-45 min) but I do know that I wasn't even going to be leaving for another 30 min.....

Sorry for the long long long post, I'm still so very shaken up. He is perfectly OK but the experience really rocked my world and I just cant let it go, and I have really fallen into a depression because of it. I feel TERRIBLE I feel like an AWFUL mother...... but I know deep inside, I'm not a bad mom, but I can't shake this.....

[Wanting-a-girl]

Omg thorz that is horrifying! Your kids would not have been taken away if cps was called they would have just done a short investigations... It is sad that we have to be scared to get our kids seen in emergencies... I remember when ds3 fell off the bed when he was laying beside me and he had blood coming out of his eye ball I knew before I called 911 that cps was going to be called and the cops were called on me and e dr accused me of punching ds3 in the face... But honestly the woman from cps knew it was an accident and was constantly apologizing for having to intrude on this tough time... Maybe you should put locks on your doors so he cant get out cause I think this was an extremely close call and we need to learn from our mistakes basically.... After Ezra's accident I threw my 2000 dollar bed in the garbage... I literally ripped it into pieces I was so angry with what happend ... I'm glad he is okay and is feeling better and that it didn't end in tragedy

[Tree]

Thorz these things horrific as they are do sometimes happen, it's not your fault and he is ok!! Not that long ago my DS drank a whole bottle of calpol, luckily DH caught him with the bottle in his hand (even though he had polished off the lot), we took him right to A&E and they made him sick and gave him a drop to metabolise the parecetamol. They couldn't tell me if he would be alright, I was terrified. It still makes me feel sick to think about and makes me want to cry but not so much as time goes by... He was, and is totally fine by the way! Since it happened I spoke to lots of people and have discovered many people have similar stories to tell! Pregnancy is hard, especially when you have multiple children to think about. You weren't reckless or careless here, I was careless and that's even worse to deal with!
Aside from the experience being truly horrifying for me it was also positive, made me remember not to take for granted that he is ok, not just after the incident but generally. My boys are exhausting, crazy hard work but they are happy and healthy and remembering to focus on that fills me with energy.
You're a mother, not a superhuman and that's ok. Forgive yourself. Like me you've learnt a few lessons and that's only a good thing.
Our boys our fine. Spend the energy you're currently putting into thinking about this and getting down into extra cuddles for your gorgeous children.

[atomic sagebrush]

thorz please do not blame yourself. I think the most dangerous time is when there are two adults watching the kids because each person thinks the child is with the other adult. Every single one of us has had moments where the kids are not watched like a hawk , and honestly if we were watching them every second of every day I'm not sure it's good for their development anyway. I am so thankful that everything came out ok in the end and I hope that you can forgive yourself, it was an accident and accidents happen to everyone.

[DLTAG89]

Aw thorz, big hugs. Sounds like you have been through a rough time. It really can happen to any of us, please try not to beat yourself up about it. Not 2 weeks ago DH was holding DS1's hand walking across a car park when he saw his grandad on the other side, pulled away from DH and ran right in front of a moving car, thankfully it didnt hit him but could have been so much worse. Even when we do watch them they still do things that put them in danger.

It sounds like you did a great job looking after him and getting him back to his happy self. Does your DH or mum know how your feeling, maybe having a chat with them might help as they could be feeling the same. Very glad your little boy is ok though x

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz thank God he's okay and thank God for big brothers the fact your ds1 acted so sensibly shows what a fab mother you are. I agree with atomic we relax when there's another adult you both think the other is watching them don't blame yourself move on you and your mum will make sure you hand the kids over better going forward dont torment yourself kids are made of strong stuff

Thinking of and praying for you and your family, please don't beat yourself up xxx

[Girlsway]

Thorz what an experience, I am so sorry you had to go through it but I am glad your DS is okay. I believe you feel shaken, it's awful seeing our little ones in distress. I know it hurts a lot. On the bright side at 4 years he will quickly forget about it, unlike us adults. Being depressed and blaming yourself is a natural reaction but don't forget how good mum you are too. I am sure your boys want to have a happy mummy now.

I felt very similar when my one year old drank half a bottle of perfume while I stood literary next to him. Guilt was great and I also started to doubt if another child was a good idea but it will pass. Keep your head up and enjoy your three princes till your princess arrives.

[Thorz300]

Thank you ladies!!! I knew you would all make me feel like less of a failure! I need to snap out of this, but it is so hard when I know how frantic he was and how he was kicking and screaming for me and I just wasnt there!!! I need to not dwell on those things and think more on the positive side, that he is ok and that DS1 is my little hero!!!

[fish2012]

Thorz sounds like a perfect excuse to spoil your boys big time pre bubba ;-)

[Thorz300]

I haven't let DS2 out of my sight and he is getting tired of all my loves and cuddles lol. DH and I have even taken turns sleeping in his bed with him, because we just want to be near him. LOL he is getting tired of all the attention!

[Thorz300]

I did a quick project today to get my mind off of things. I found this chair for free on the side of the road and got the cushion for $5 on clearance so this was a really cheap project, and now I have somewhere to sit while the boys ride their bikes in the front yard!!! I need to focus on the nursery now, maybe that will help me with my rough week and help me get my mind off of the terrible experience....

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[WantingPink]

Thorz nice work on the chair!! Please don't be too hard on yourself... that could have easily happened to anyone. I know it must be hard to think about how your DS couldn't get out of the car but is just fine now and I bet he won't do that again:) I had CPS show up at my door once and it shook me to the core. I cried several times about it and it took me awhile before I could even tell anyone what happened (even though it was just a misunderstanding). It doesn't make you a bad parent and I am sure most parents have a couple of stories they aren't proud of. The most important thing is that your Mom instincts kicked in and you knew exactly what to do to get him cooled off. Talking about it with someone who you can trust will probably help. It doesn't help that your hip is hurting and it is hard to do things to get your mind off of it. Try not to be too hard on yourself!!

[Salsa]

Thorz you poor poor thing!! I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine the horror you must have felt. But like all the ladies here have said, you must not blame yourself or think about the what ifs. He is now safe healthy and happy and this is what you must focus on. We will all have close calls in our lives with our kids, I wish we wouldn't buy we all will at some point. But 99% of the time they will be just that- close calls. Your DS1 is a hero! You have very special boys and just take this time to cherish them and try not to get depressed on the situation that could of been. Kids are so resilient. And DS2 would no doubt be back to his happy healthy self by now. So don't allow yourself to be so hard on you, it's not doing anyone any good. You are an exceptional mother. No one doubts that for a second! You just have to look at your boys to see this. Big big hugs, I think it makes it worse that you are on bed rest and its playing on your mind so much x x x x

[Girlsway]

Is anyone getting strong BHicks? Mine are getting quite painful, I guess at 34 weeks it's normal.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I've been getting painful BH since like 15 weeks just like with ds2 and 3 ... Altho I did think I was going into labour last night... They were 10 mins apart for over two hours

[Southern Butterfly]

Thorz I'm so glad everything turned out ok and you definitely have an amazing little hero on your hands! I know how hard it is because as mothers the guilt can sometimes be unbearable. I'm so sorry this happened but it was NOTHING you did wrong. You did an amazing job of responding quickly and doing all the right things to cool him off. One of the hardest things for us mothers to do is forgive ourselves when something happens to our kids but the reality is things like this happens and all we can do is learn from it and be grateful for our healthy children. I'm glad you seem to be doing better now, go easy on yourself!

Several ladies have shared their "close calls" so I'll share mine too. We were staying at a beach house when my older boys were only 2 and 4. Both boys were playing in the shallow end of the pool and my MIL and I were sitting inside the screened porch only about 5 feet from the pool in full view of the kids. MIL and I had gotten into some kind of semi-heated discussion and were therefor a bit distracted, we both heard splashing but the boys always splashed each other. Suddenly I heard DS1 yelling "mommy help help help I can't hold him!". To my horror DS2 had somehow flipped upside down in his safety float and was stuck head down. DS1 didn't have the strength to flip him back over but he was able to grab his head and keep his face out of the water just enough so he could breath. It took me a long time to get over that guilt, all I had to do was turn my stupid head and stop talking to MIL and I would have seen it. DS1 was also my little hero that day and 6 years later he still remembers it vividly as do I.

My lesson was that even 5 feet away was too far when it comes to the pool. I felt so foolish.

[DLTAG89]

I've been having some weird pains today really low down today. Shes been head down since 26 weeks so have no idea what they could be, they dont feel like BH but i have been having them since about 20 weeks. Thankfully the BH arnt too painful . . .yet!

[Wanting-a-girl]

she might just be dropping low... tmi but in the shower i was curious to see if my cervix was lowerin or anything and i can feel his head right there!!!!!

[fish2012]

Agh I have weird achy cramping pains in my legs most of the time ;-( anyone else getting these?!

I've never had Branson hicks ;-( sounds exciting off to the hospital tomorrow wonder what they can find wrong with me tomorrow ;-)

[Girlsway]

Wag your little one is getting ready as is mine. I had BH all afternoon today. Will see what the night brings and if not any better I will have to have it checked tomorrow. The hot weather where i am is not making things easier.

Dlatag she probably started to press on your cervix but I could be wrong.

Souther how are you coping? Are your contraction under the control?

[Girlsway]

Wag your little one is getting ready as is mine. I had BH all afternoon today. Will see what the night brings and if not any better I will have to have it checked tomorrow. The hot weather where i am is not making things easier.

Dlatag she probably started to press on your cervix but I could be wrong.

Souther how are you coping? Are your contraction under the control?

[Wanting-a-girl]

ya lol i would like to think so but from my experience with my other boys i dont think it means too much...one thing i do know is he better stay put for four more weeks.. i dont want him to be premature at all!!! i cant believe its the last full week of july!!! im 37 weeks aug 13th!!!!! thats only like 22 more days!!! i do notice when i walk that i can totally feel his head drop down very fun lol not...

[Wanting-a-girl]

whats everyone think for self inductions... i have bought a pineapple lol its supposed to soften the cervix... it will be nice and yummy hopefully the end of the week... im gonna start some hill and stair walking when im 37 weeks.... ive already started my tea at 30 weeks and will be upping it to two a day when im 34 weeks which is this week mid week i believe... im gonna start primrose at 36.3 maybe i might wait til 37 just to be safe

[Thorz300]

Thanks southern! What a scary experience you had too! water is always so scary! How are things for you? I'm glad your little guy is hanging in there!

I get BH every now and again but they never really hurt. I might start drinking the raspberry leaf tea soon. I will do anything I can for her to come after 38 weeks. I'm so over this pregnancy. My hip won't stay in socket and I have an extremely painful pop in my hip with every step I take. People around me can even hear it. DH has helped a ton around the house and won't let me do anything, but it is turning him into a grumpy DH and daddy so I would rather him not try and help me with laundry and cooking and cleaning and getting the boys dressed if its gonna make him grumpy and snap at all of us. I would rather just a messy house!
We are all getting close ladies, we are on the home stretch!!!

[Salsa]

WAG I'll try anything to get this bub out in my 38th week! I'm drinking 2 cups of raspberry leaf tea a day. And having just 1 primrose oil tablet a day orally now. When I hit 36wks I'll increase to 2 orally and 1 vaginally at night. Will also increase to 3 cups of RRL tea next wk at 34 wks. I hear you have to eat something like 100 pineapples for any sort of change to occur. But still it's a nice alternative to caster oil which I would personally never take!!

[Salsa]

WAG I'll try anything to get this bub out in my 38th week! I'm drinking 2 cups of raspberry leaf tea a day. And having just 1 primrose oil tablet a day orally now. When I hit 36wks I'll increase to 2 orally and 1 vaginally at night. Will also increase to 3 cups of RRL tea next wk at 34 wks. I hear you have to eat something like 100 pineapples for any sort of change to occur. But still it's a nice alternative to caster oil which I would personally never take!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I am def totally against castor oil! It's terrible for the baby and when I was working along side an ob you could always tell who took it... It was terrible... Babies covered in diareeha eww

[DLTAG89]

Would it not be too early for her to be that low? I'm only 31 weeks.

Just brewed my first cup of raspberry leaf tea too :D Really dont feel ready for this little lady but cant wait to meet her.

[Girlsway]

The painful BH stopped, I must have pick up some minor food poisoning as I didn't feel well yesterday. We are on holiday and its hard to judge what food is okay when served to me. I wasnt vomitting just crampy, so I hope I didn't hurt the baby.

Btw the Dutches of Cambridge is in labour. We will see soon if they used our name, fingers crossed they didn't.

[Southern Butterfly]

DLTAG, I agree with WAG that sounds like the baby dropping. I wouldn't worry too much especially this being your 3rd.

Girlsway I'm glad you are feeling better. Very exciting about the royal baby too! DH was hoping our baby would share a birthday with theirs but I'm not ready for it to be today.

BH are very "normal" for me from very early on in pregnancy so I pretty much ignore them unless they get painful and in a regular pattern.

Well yesterday was officially 2 weeks in this place, feels like I've been here an eternity though. It's possible they will allow me to go home at 34 weeks (next Sunday) so I'm counting down the days and hoping they don't change their minds. I still contract a lot but as I've mentioned before the medications keep them spaced out to reduce the chances of them kick starting labor again. They have gotten as close as every 3-5 minutes a few times over the last few days in which case I get a lovely shot of terbutaline :worry:. The whole time I've been here I'm always crampy and still have painful contractions I have to stop and breath through... sort of feels like I've been in early labor for 2 weeks straight. It's all worth it to buy this little one more time though.

What is everyone's birth plans? I know several of you have mentioned natural births. I don't recall anyone having a scheduled C-section, or am I wrong? Just curious!

[Wanting-a-girl]

My plan is induction on the 27th but I'm hoping to go into labour on my own before then... I would like to avoid the epidural this time cause last time it didn't take and just gave me chronic back pain... But tell me that I said this when I'm screaming for it lol... I went no drugs with ds2 and not by choice and I very clearly remeber crying and screaming for it..... I delay cord clamping ... I take everything as it comes... Labour and delivery are so unpredictable that I don't make too uh of a plan... The most important thing is a healthy baby and the delayed cord clamping is next on the list.... Also for this induction we are gonna try and just break my water instead of the drugs

[Girlsway]

Souther I am glad you are still hanging there, I can imagine how much pain you are going through. 2 wks in contractions is not fun, but you seem to have a great endurance. What we mothers don't do for our children. Fingers crossed this week goes faster for you and you are home in no time.

[DLTAG89]

I wonder if she will make an early entrance then if shes that low down already.

Hope you manage to get home for a bit too southern, you must have forgotten what it looks like. Your doing a brill job tho x

I dont really have a birth plan, just as little pain relief as possible and not give birth lying on my back. My real dilema is where to give birth. I have 2 choices and need to decide by 34 weeks. The birth centre which is really nice and where i had DS1 or the hospital which isnt so nice. I really want to go to the birth centre as its really nice but is a 40min drive away (in good traffic) and i have quick labours (DS2 was 4 hours). Also if i have a 3rd degree tear they have to transfer me to a hospital anyway. So stuck on what to do, any advice VERY welcome :)

[fish2012]

So princess Kate was taken in at 6am what do you reckon ladies induction?

Daltag tricky one I wish I could go birth centre, my ds1 took 25hrs ds2 2! But the distress of the car journey kept him at bay ;-) but having to be transferred after would be bad too ;-( have you torn before? My hospital has a birth centre and labour ward on one site so it's less of a big decision

[Wanting-a-girl]

Ds3 my co sleeper lol kicked me in the stomach this morning... I was sleeping so I don't know how hard it was... I had no pain... But it did scare the crap out of the baby in there... He was bouncing around for like an hour ... I just dont knowin I should worry... He's been moving around like normal all day so far and the kick happend in his back or butt

[Thorz300]

I don't have much of a plan. I'm getting induced on Monday sept 23 at 7 am. I would like to go into labor on my own before that but I know it won't happen. My babies never come on their own. I'll start doing red raspberry leaf this weak. Does anyone know the difference between the tea and capsules? I don't like tea very much so I prefer the capsules if it does the same thing. I'll start EPO around 35 weeks but I'm still not expecting to go into labor naturally....bummer!

[Thorz300]

Wag if he is moving like normal you should be fine. I've fallen down the stairs and on my tummy in every pregnancy and each time the baby has been fine. It's surprising how much cushion they have in there. Just pay close attention to his movements for the next day or two

[DLTAG89]

Yeah i had an episomoty with DS1 and then a 2nd degree tear with DS2 (they thought it was a 3rd degree so transferred me to a different hospital anyway). Really dont know what to do.

Also have come up in a rash on my arm a week after having the whooping cough jab so have a docs app tomorrow to get it checked out.

[fish2012]

Ah daltag snap that's exactly what Ive had too ;/s that's why I really want water ;-) I've started massaging ;-s but expecting second degree again really boo be tempted to go labour ward so you don't have to transfer but I've had such good experiences on midwife lead unit... With my ds2 the birth centre midwife stitched me up and then said to my dh ur what do you think about it I'm not sure about... and got a midwife off the labour ward who took them out and redid them ;-(. That took longer than it took for him to born!!

Kate's had a boy!!!!

[Girlsway]

It's a royal boy, I am so happy our name is safe!!!

[Girlsway]

Fish do you still think she was induced?

[Thorz300]

Is it totally dumb that I'm starting to doubt this is a girl again?? I think it's been about 7 weeks since I've had confirmation and probably won't have another scan until baby is born! I've gotten loads of girl stuff from friends and family, and a shower in a few weeks, it will be awful if she turns into a he!

[fish2012]

Thorz no I've been thinking that too the nursery is nearly done and I'm thinking but what if :/) I've never know before but I guess it's natural either way even if you've not invested so much emotion and time in it!

Girlsway word on street at ds swimming was she'd been induced! I didn't even know she'd gone in well behind times! I can't figure why they all thought on the basis of news I've seen ;-s

[Wanting-a-girl]

Your babies are girls lol stop overthink lol it's not good to do that :) although I have been worrying mine will turn to a she cause I never did see a penis and at 15 weeks there was no penis... I think I would be a tad upset if that happend even tho to begin with I did want a girl... Now I really want this boy

[Elements]

Hi ladies, wow, I haven't been on here in maybe 3 months? How is everybody?