July 2WW

[Pbn3]

Ok, that's all I needed!lol I have been on supplements, excercising, and diet for months. I'm going to stick to one! I can do it, I can do it, I can do it! Haha
That's a long time on diet! I'm 16 weeks on diet and 2nd month ttc and it is getting seriously boring counting calories, fat, protien jist want to be done with it lol!! and to eat meat again (drool) when are due to o?

[Pbn3]

we posted same time boysboys! cycle buddies!!

[HealthyGirl]

Twointow what cycle day are you?
I have similar pain since 6dpo.


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[twointow83]

Twointow what cycle day are you?
I have similar pain since 6dpo.


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Uh, maybe O day? That's what I am going with after so much left side pain yesterday. Not really sure though. Taking comid this cycle and nothing has been reliable so far. My OPKs are useless.

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[Boysboys]

we posted same time boysboys! cycle buddies!!



Yes! Second month TTC here too! I am due to O Saturday or Sunday of next week.

[daisy4]

Yaybaby I am testing on Saturday when af is due [emoji1] . GL to everyone fx

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[twointow83]

OK, I am officially pulling the WTF card. I am producing MILK!! Not a lot, but enough to know it is not my imagination! While changing I noticed a red spot on one of my nips (a montgomery gland) and as I was checking it out a nearby gland had a release of fluid. So, I started checking and ALL my glands are expressing fluid. And not just a teesy drop each.. it just kept coming with each one for awhile. WTF!!!!! Seriously? :eek: WTF is going on with my body?!?!
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[Pbn3]

Twointow have you googled this? There are many people who say they have experienced the same and for lots of different reasons. I just typed in 'nipple discharge ttc' and heaps come up. HTH :)

[twointow83]

I'll try that. I typed more specific things. I'll see what a more general search can get me. Thanks for the tip.

ETA: technically the discharge is coming from the montgomery glands... nothing from the nipple itself.

[Pbn3]

sorry just got back on and yep I thought was leakage from glands :) concentrated on posts that stated that. How'd you go? Did you get a chance to look yet? Some posts I seen were related to previous breastfeeding (up to 7 years ago!!!) others were bfp and others were see doc things. Hopefully yours is the middle fx!!

[daisy4]

Hope you figure out what it is twointow.

I think I am out ladies bfn today at 14dpo, I am expecting af tomm [emoji17]. Might not be able to try next month because my husband and I will be in different states on my fertile time. Unless I make a special trip back home just for that week since I am currently visiting family and will stay here until the beginning of August.

I have a returning flight next week but wasn't going to use it since my husband is coming here in the beginning of August.
Do you think its crazy if I go back home early just to try for July? Or should I just focus on my diet since it hasn't been the best the past 2 weeks[emoji20] and try in August?
I am thinking of not using anything in my next cycle and just focusing on the diet and 1 attempt
What do you ladies think?

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[Pbn3]

hi daisy! not sure what your sway has included previously but focusing on diet and one attempt sounds like a great idea! In my opinion I believe these are the major factors and everything else people do (including myself) either help or help us believe we are bettering our odds either way :)

[daisy4]

I have been using rephresh and last month we also used astroglide. I think we are drowning the sperm lol

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[Pbn3]

Could be :) personally I'm not using any lubes or antihistamines as my cm has been so reduced being on diet but its all about what you're comfortable with. I've read time and again how people's sways have been adjusted to what works for them... Wishing you all the best daisy for next cycle. I remember you from June and I just don't know how much longer I can do this for if I dont get bfp this month. Think maybe I'll have one more cycle left in me but then again if I end up in August I'll probably be thinking the same thing lol :)

[TaytumJ]

Daisy: Sorry about AF. [emoji17] I know diet and exercise are big sway factors, but I would also ask myself if I flew back home and didn't end up PG, would I regret using the flight?

Two: I don't have kids/have never produced milk but WTF?! I hope you got some answers!

Woke up today with big dip. [emoji15] I tossed and turned a bit and nose was stuffy so it's fair to say my mouth could have been opened. I'm not temping for the next two days though and just going to enjoy the weekend, so I won't know the outcome of this until Monday! Haha. And of course I'd like to think it's early implantation. [emoji6]


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[True Blue]

Taytum it may be a secondary estrogen surge :)
Enjoy your weekend !!

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[True Blue]

Sorry daisy :(

Pbn3 I hope you get your BFP and don't need to have any more cycles ;)

[daisy4]

Thanks ladies hope you all get your bfp soon.
Pbn I don't know how much longer I can sway as well [emoji20]

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[daisy4]

Hope its implantation taytum

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[Foxcubblue]

Really sorry to hear that Daisy. Swaying is such hard work and motivation is lowest when you are just at the start of a new cycle - give it a few days and see how you feel. I'm rooting for you!

Taytum - excited and hopeful for you!

True - just seen that ff has changed your O day? What do you think?!

[DreamingPink2015]

Hi Girls,

I am joining you in the 2WW :)
I think I am ovulating as we speak
I got a positive ops last night at 10:30 and decided to be this morning at 6:30
I am kind of kicking my self that I decided against doing it straight away last night especially that my husband was saying we should go for it.
I was afraid I caught the surge right at the begging because when I tested 3 hours earlier I had no line what so ever. So I thought if I was to bd right then it might have given me a 2 day cut off. Yet this morning right before BD I tested and the light was very faint and now night time I feel like something is happening down there so chances I BD in the morning of my ovulation day

goodluck to everyone this month!!

[True Blue]

Dreaming pink that sounds totally perfect to me :) :cheer:

Fox it has :) giving us great attempts but I'm not 100% on it, I'm thinking it could possibly be a day later again? So confusing. I wish I had used OPKs but we weren't trying so I didn't bother.

[momamia4]

Two, I would definitely call the doctor and see if they will check you out. I was told a few years ago that any discharge should be checked out when not breastfeeding or pregnant. It is most likely nothing but it's better to find out for sure, IMO. :D

Sorry, Daisy!! I agree with Pbn3, I'd probably drop the lubes if I were you. Atomic says they haven't been goods for odds of conception and don't add much to the sway.

Taytum, fx for implantation!! :D

Blue, I'm in the same boat! FF changed my O day to a day later this morning! That makes me only 7dpo instead of 8. Which makes my BFN this morning make me feel even stupider for even testing, lol!

[twointow83]

sorry just got back on and yep I thought was leakage from glands :) concentrated on posts that stated that. How'd you go? Did you get a chance to look yet? Some posts I seen were related to previous breastfeeding (up to 7 years ago!!!) others were bfp and others were see doc things. Hopefully yours is the middle fx!!

Not yet, it was 2 am here when I posted and had to get to bed.

[twointow83]

Daisy- (((hugs))) that sounds like a great plan tho :)

Taytum- thanks. It has stopped now and the glands, which looked kinda swollen last night have gone back to normal. Red spot is still there though and that concerns me. As far as the implant... that's a toughy. The egg can't implant until it hatches and it takes 5 days for it to hatch... you are 5 DPO so I guess it is possible :shrug: :fingers:

Dreaming- Welcome! :fingers: for you!

True- Thanks. The discharge has stopped at this point and my glands, which looked kinda swollen last night, look normal this morning so I am thinking maybe it was leftovers from pregnancy or something. The red spot is still there though and that does concern me but I don't know that it is worthy of a call to the doc. So, what was your temp this morning?

AFM- still no temp spike :( I am still going with the assumption the I O'd though. My CP was pretty high this morning, almost unreachable, so I am not 100% but it seemed to be firm and closed and I am back to creamy CM (for now at least, lately it have been creamy in the AM and turning EW later in the day, so time will tell). Since my CP is still high I may not have actually O'd until last night, which would make some pains I was having last night make sense. They weren't bad... not even remotely close to what I had Wen., but it's possible I suppose. And my temp did jump a bit, just not above where my CL would be. And O'ing last night, would be a good thing timing wise. Give the :pinksperm: a chance to make it to the egg. Hopefully, I'll finally see a shift tomorrow morning. If not I am giving up on trusting temps along with everything else. If my docs office hadn't told me to keep charting (I am assuming so they can see it if I have to come in) I am getting to the point that I'd drop it for the rest of the cycle. It isn't adding anything to help me know what is going on, it's just frustrating me. :fingers: I get a temp shift tomorrow but either way I am going with being 1 DPO today. If my chart doesn't back it up so be it. I am DONE trying to figure it out.

[purplepoet20]

Very confused.... I o'd early on cd9 but had pains cd11 and today cd13. I am testing with ovucue monitor and also Ov sticks. They both confirm Ov 3x's. We dtd the afternoon before cd9 but not since because I got hurt. I have been in pain since sunday evening. I have taken a mild muscle relaxer and pain meds since cd10. I wonder if the meds effected me in some way. How do muscle relaxers work for a sway? I am worried that we may not get prego this time so I am wondering if we such dtd again but I do not know if DH has been withholding or what.

What should I do?

[purplepoet20]

Uh, maybe O day? That's what I am going with after so much left side pain yesterday. Not really sure though. Taking comid this cycle and nothing has been reliable so far. My OPKs are useless.

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If you are on clomid you can have pains 1-3 days before O as your body gets ready. Keep testing and relax. You may get the pos in a day or so.

[twointow83]

Very confused.... I o'd early on cd9 but had pains cd11 and today cd13. I am testing with ovucue monitor and also Ov sticks. They both confirm Ov 3x's. We dtd the afternoon before cd9 but not since because I got hurt. I have been in pain since sunday evening. I have taken a mild muscle relaxer and pain meds since cd10. I wonder if the meds effected me in some way. How do muscle relaxers work for a sway? I am worried that we may not get prego this time so I am wondering if we such dtd again but I do not know if DH has been withholding or what.

What should I do?

Those are very good questions, the only one I can answer though is the BD question. Personally I would go ahead and DTD just in case. It has been 4 days since your last BD so your last BD won't do much for getting you preg if you are just now O'ing. Sometimes our bodies surge but for whatever reason we don't actually O. Have you tried testing again?

[purplepoet20]

Those are very good questions, the only one I can answer though is the BD question. Personally I would go ahead and DTD just in case. It has been 4 days since your last BD so your last BD won't do much for getting you preg if you are just now O'ing. Sometimes our bodies surge but for whatever reason we don't actually O. Have you tried testing again?

I have test every morn and every evening... wanted to make sure I didn't miss it. The stick this late morn the test line was darker then the just the standard line. Just like the other 2x's. It may be possible that I am Oing today maybe with a stronger healthier egg.

[twointow83]

If you are on clomid you can have pains 1-3 days before O as your body gets ready. Keep testing and relax. You may get the pos in a day or so.

I only have 2 tests left... which is ridiculous since I started off with A LOT of tests. Testing twice, sometimes 3 times a day trying to catch O has depleted my supply rapidly.

[twointow83]

I have test every morn and every evening... wanted to make sure I didn't miss it. The stick this late morn the test line was darker then the just the standard line. Just like the other 2x's. It may be possible that I am Oing today maybe with a stronger healthier egg.

Very possible! O'ing CD 13 makes a lot more sense than CD 9. CD 9 is not impossible, by any means, but I'd be concerned about egg quality O'ing THAT early! :fx: for you!

[purplepoet20]

I have no idea whats going on I never O early. I just hope I don't miss out this months.

[twointow83]

I have no idea whats going on I never O early. I just hope I don't miss out this months.

Do you chart? I am not a big fan of it this cycle, but normally I recommend charting to everyone because *normally* it can help prevent a lot of confusion. OPKs are good for giving you a heads up that you could be about to O, but doesn't tell you if you HAVE. Charting can tell you that you you have! If you don't chart, I personally might switch to DTD every 4 days until the latest date you have ever O'd. That will make sure you get an attempt in, but only one.

[momamia4]

Purple, I think I vaguely remember reading somewhere that muscle relaxers delay O. I would bet that you are gearing up to O but are just now actually going to. I'd bd now. GL!! :)

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[TaytumJ]

Two: that is so confusing with your chart. I would keep charting as well, maybe loosely though? Sometimes I take a morning off just to have some sanity and not let that little thermometer run my life. I can understand how frustrated you are though! Glad your glands aren't as swollen any more as well!

Purple: I don't know much, but I would get one more Bd in as well just in case, as it is 4 days after your last. I agree - CD13 makes more sense. Good luck!!

I think my drop was just extra estrogen - has some fertile CM today. [emoji4]


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[YayBaby678]

two- glad your gland issue seems to have passed, how strange! I would keep charting too and BDing E4D but I think you're right that O has passed.

daisy - I am with you and Pbn3 on being ready to cut out everything except diet and one attempt. If we get a BFN this cycle, that is our plan for August (we were using RePhresh and Zyrtec and cut them out this cycle, next month will cut out hot baths and DH's tighty whities, which will leave us with only those two tactics). If that doesn't work, I'm adding another attempt the following month. How many months have you been TTC? I'm sure you mentioned it already but these TWW threads move so fast!

True - I see your chart has adjusted. Do you feel its accurate? I'm 2DPO so hopefully we'll be testing together!

Welcome to the TWW DreamingPink!

[Foxcubblue]

Dreaming pink that sounds totally perfect to me :) :cheer:

Fox it has :) giving us great attempts but I'm not 100% on it, I'm thinking it could possibly be a day later again? So confusing. I wish I had used OPKs but we weren't trying so I didn't bother.

It ties in with your cm changing though, so FX the new date is correct!!!

[purplepoet20]

Do you chart? I am not a big fan of it this cycle, but normally I recommend charting to everyone because *normally* it can help prevent a lot of confusion. OPKs are good for giving you a heads up that you could be about to O, but doesn't tell you if you HAVE. Charting can tell you that you you have! If you don't chart, I personally might switch to DTD every 4 days until the latest date you have ever O'd. That will make sure you get an attempt in, but only one.

I sort of chart. Not to into it as I dont have time but I do keep little notes on a calender. We may just dtd since it has been awhile. DH says he hasn't done anything because he has been to tired with me not feeling good and such. So I guess I will be in the 2ww wait tomorrow.

[purplepoet20]

Purple, I think I vaguely remember reading somewhere that muscle relaxers delay O. I would bet that you are gearing up to O but are just now actually going to. I'd bd now. GL!! :)

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I would bed now but DH is at work for 5 more hours ;)

[twointow83]

:fx: for you poet!

[daisy4]

two- glad your gland issue seems to have passed, how strange! I would keep charting too and BDing E4D but I think you're right that O has passed.

daisy - I am with you and Pbn3 on being ready to cut out everything except diet and one attempt. If we get a BFN this cycle, that is our plan for August (we were using RePhresh and Zyrtec and cut them out this cycle, next month will cut out hot baths and DH's tighty whities, which will leave us with only those two tactics). If that doesn't work, I'm adding another attempt the following month. How many months have you been TTC? I'm sure you mentioned it already but these TWW threads move so fast!

True - I see your chart has adjusted. Do you feel its accurate? I'm 2DPO so hopefully we'll be testing together!

Welcome to the TWW DreamingPink!
Officially only 2 months, prepping for longer though

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[Pbn3]

Gl DreamingPink!!!

[Pbn3]

Forgot to mention I got a flashing smiley this morning cd8!! Wasn't expecting that till tomorrow morning! Maybe I'll o a day early? Or maybe 4 days of flashing instead of 3 like last cycle?? If only things stayed the same when ttc lol! Just sooo relieved the cb duals worked so well last month (even tho I didn't trust and jumped the gun lol) feeling so much more relaxed and confident this cycle! Even been getting excited taking my temp lol. Just in a really good head space atm and ready to roll :) when I get that pos opk!

[True Blue]

Lovely post Pbn3 lots of BFP wishes heading your way :cheerteam:

[Pbn3]

Hey all any chance of a recap where everyones at? Just started to go back through thread but it sooo large lol. Junie I think we were going to be close cycle buddies and yaybaby?
True how many dpo are you? Think your temping but not using opks as weren't trying intentionally? Can you post a chart?
Hitme!! Where are you?? Can you also post your chart?
Momamia? As above and where are you at? Sorry for all those I haven't mentioned!!!!! Please update where you are I only went back a couple pages and mentioned those from June :) and those close to me cycle wise :)

[True Blue]

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Me CD19 - FF says 4dpo I'm thinking possibly 3dpo. Going to test Thursday with FRER at 8/9dpo :fx:

[Pbn3]

geez true your chart looks so good for bfp!! I know its not a huge difference temp spike wise but I'm kinda leaning towards FF's o day here? Either way you have awesome multiple attempts and so excited for you!!! Remember you may have have oed at any time cd16 if that's what your thinking so you'll have at least 3 really good attempts in that time frame. If you did o on cd15 you'll have all 4! So expecting and hoping to see a bfp from you by the weekend!! if you do test at 8/9dpo please please don't lose hope - last month had a few bfns that early that turned bfp by 13dpo!

[covered in blue]

I'm not sure how many DPO I am. We are doing every 4 days this cycle though I got a pos OPK CD10. I am CD22 now. Not sure when to test. I'm trying to hold out till Monday (CD24). This is month 3 for us. Feeling pretty bloated. That's probably coz I've been cheating on the diet a bit. I'm starving lol.
Good luck everyone! Is anyone else trying to hold out to test?

[Pbn3]

omg covered!! I admire your patience at testing lol!!! how long is your luteal phase normally? Are you expecting af Monday? I have everything crossed for you as I know you were in June 2ww as well!

[Junie]

Pbn3- I'm glad you're in such a good place with TTC! I'm also feeling so much better having had my Dr say it was basically impossible for me to get pregnant when I had my ear infection and was on such high doses of cortisone in April and that that really affected my cycles. So hopefully my cycles will start shortening a bit again.

I'm hoping to O next week but I really can't be sure. We're BDing EOD or ED until my OPKs get darker and then we'll see. It's been half a year since the miscarriage and over a year since I originally went on the diet and I'm not swaying much anymore. I'll definitely be doing more than 1 attempt. I'm even thinking about trying every day.

[Magical22]

6dpo for me


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[Pbn3]

Junie I wish you the best of luck !! I honestly believe I'd be doing the same in your circumstances! Sending simply baby dust your way and hope you get your bfp this cycle! Please update if you get a chance when you get a pos opk!

[True Blue]

Good Luck covered, my guess is you could be 10dpo that would see you testing at 12dpo possibly ;)
Good Luck - another in awe at your patience !!

Junie I'm truly willing a BFP your way this cycle :fx:

Pbn3 thank you :) your post cheered me up :hug2:

[True Blue]

Good Luck Magical :fx: !!

[Pbn3]

6dpo for me


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Magical you know I've got everything crossed for you this month lol!!! It's hard to believe after what seemed so many bfps last month there's so many of us in this month! I'll be stalking for your test results! When are you planning on testing?

[Magical22]

Pbn3- I'm glad you're in such a good place with TTC! I'm also feeling so much better having had my Dr say it was basically impossible for me to get pregnant when I had my ear infection and was on such high doses of cortisone in April and that that really affected my cycles. So hopefully my cycles will start shortening a bit again.

I'm hoping to O next week but I really can't be sure. We're BDing EOD or ED until my OPKs get darker and then we'll see. It's been half a year since the miscarriage and over a year since I originally went on the diet and I'm not swaying much anymore. I'll definitely be doing more than 1 attempt. I'm even thinking about trying every day.

I'm the same my diet has stopped and due to just wanting a baby we have. Never just done 1 attempt. I do really really want a daughter though thinking about GS in the USA but with the Aus dollar it's so expensive....well it was expensive anyway.


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[Magical22]

Magical you know I've got everything crossed for you this month lol!!! It's hard to believe after what seemed so many bfps last month there's so many of us in this month! I'll be stalking for your test results! When are you planning on testing?

Thank you it means a lot, I fell on month 4 with DS and this is month 4 so maybe it's lucky. Thinking about going HT but the dollar keeps dropping!


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[Magical22]

Thinking about testing Wednesday at 10dpo but more likely it will be the Tuesday [emoji23][emoji23]


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[netti02]

Hi Guys

This is the week for me and should be heading on the 2ww at the end of next week. Just had a question about opk's. Im assuming its detecting a surge a few days before O when the fertile period starts? I just don't want to miss my fertile window by jumping the gun. Im taking folic acid, some cardio. Hubby is on OLE and LR. Planning one attempt. My last cycle was a little longer by 5 days but im hoping (and planning) it will be back to the regular 28 this time.

Sending everyone babydust

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[Junie]

Magical- I think if your H is on board for HT and you can swing it then I would go for it. It might not work out but it would be better to have tried and known you did all that you could. I would only slightly prefer a girl so HT isn't something I'm interested in. Good luck this cycle, only a few more days to wait! :)

[Pbn3]

hi netti and welcome! what opks are you using? most show a positive anywhere from 12-72 hours prior to o

[Junie]

netti02: Everyone is a bit different but normally you will ovulate 24-48 hours after having a positive OPK- definitely try to wait until it is positive, you won't be too late to catch the egg!

[Junie]

Good Luck covered, my guess is you could be 10dpo that would see you testing at 12dpo possibly ;)
Good Luck - another in awe at your patience !!

Junie I'm truly willing a BFP your way this cycle :fx:

Pbn3 thank you :) your post cheered me up :hug2:

Awh thanks I appreciate it! I'm doing pretty good. Although that will probably change if I don't O by CD20 or if I get a BFN. But then it is just on to the next cycle, it will work eventually! Good good luck to you this cycle too!

[netti02]

😀 I'm using first response. Ive never used opks before so im abit unsure.

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[Magical22]

Magical- I think if your H is on board for HT and you can swing it then I would go for it. It might not work out but it would be better to have tried and known you did all that you could. I would only slightly prefer a girl so HT isn't something I'm interested in. Good luck this cycle, only a few more days to wait! :)

It's kinda DH that wants us to do it, he's worried about how I will cope if we have another boy, I know that sounds horrible but this is def our last baby, so only one more chance. Thinking about the money stresses me out and makes me feel sick, not sure what to do.


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[Magical22]

Awh thanks I appreciate it! I'm doing pretty good. Although that will probably change if I don't O by CD20 or if I get a BFN. But then it is just on to the next cycle, it will work eventually! Good good luck to you this cycle too!

Yes it will work eventually we will all get our BFPs and hopefully soon!!


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[Pbn3]

Netti just a quick tip - make sure its a definate positive before your one attempt! please feel free to upload a pic of what you think is a pos opk in this forum for some reassurance etc. This is the downfall of the 'one attempt' lol we all want to nail the timing!!

[Pbn3]

Magical I'm in the same boat as in definate last baby... I've always known that HT would never be an option for us money wise so was very hesitant about even ttc dc3. However I'm also on a time limit age wise and made the decision to jump right in and hope for the best. I had a dream just after starting le diet (like 4 months ago lol) that I had another boy and in my dream I remember a flash of sadness then he was put in my arms and all my sadness went away. I like to think it was my subconscious telling me I was going to be ok if I had another boy and to just get on with things lol. It was that type of vivid dream that always stays with you. I think it makes it all the harder knowing its your last... and it makes it triple harder when ds2 is not a good sleeper.......

[Magical22]

I think I just feel a lot of pressure from myself and from friends and family it has actually caused me anxiety, most days I'm good but some days it's not fun.

If I get my BFP next week I'll be very excited though and just hope for the best. [emoji5]️
That will be my answer about doing HT.


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[Pbn3]

All fingers and toes crossed for you Magical!! Sending multitudes of pink dust your way and can't wait for your testing time!! And please remember you've done all you can what will be will be and no amount of worrying or stressing will change the outcome. Try if you can to let go of any negativity and just focus on a happy healthly bfp xxxooo

[netti02]

Thanks Pbn3. Ive had a quick read of the instructions off to a night shift now and will have a look later. Just a quick question though im still reading alot about keeping it 3 days before O for a girl etc etc and im trying to find substantial research about X and Y sperm etc. Its just doing my head in. This is a definite last baby for us. Makes me think i should have done GS but i have no $$ for the o'seas treatments. Im praying like crazy this is our girl

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[Magical22]

Magical I'm in the same boat as in definate last baby... I've always known that HT would never be an option for us money wise so was very hesitant about even ttc dc3. However I'm also on a time limit age wise and made the decision to jump right in and hope for the best. I had a dream just after starting le diet (like 4 months ago lol) that I had another boy and in my dream I remember a flash of sadness then he was put in my arms and all my sadness went away. I like to think it was my subconscious telling me I was going to be ok if I had another boy and to just get on with things lol. It was that type of vivid dream that always stays with you. I think it makes it all the harder knowing its your last... and it makes it triple harder when ds2 is not a good sleeper.......

I know if I have another boy he will be my world just like my boys now, I adore them and wouldn't change them for anything. But I will morn never having a daughter.

I was content with 2 kids but when we decided to try for a third I felt a wave of emotion and pressure on me, sometimes when I think of just having 2 it goes away and I feel content. But I know I also want another Bub!


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[Magical22]

All fingers and toes crossed for you Magical!! Sending multitudes of pink dust your way and can't wait for your testing time!! And please remember you've done all you can what will be will be and no amount of worrying or stressing will change the outcome. Try if you can to let go of any negativity and just focus on a happy healthly bfp xxxooo

Thank you [emoji8]


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[Magical22]

Thanks Pbn3. Ive had a quick read of the instructions off to a night shift now and will have a look later. Just a quick question though im still reading alot about keeping it 3 days before O for a girl etc etc and im trying to find substantial research about X and Y sperm etc. Its just doing my head in. This is a definite last baby for us. Makes me think i should have done GS but i have no $$ for the o'seas treatments. Im praying like crazy this is our girl

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Good luck netti!!! [emoji177][emoji177][emoji177][emoji177]


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[daisy4]

Quick question are your husbands taking any supplements ladies? Determining whether to have my husband stop taking olive oil extract.

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[Magical22]

Quick question are your husbands taking any supplements ladies? Determining whether to have my husband stop taking olive oil extract.

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Hubby here takes olive leaf extract and LR.


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[daisy4]

How do the supplements work in terms of swaying? Still a little confused about that

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

how are you hitme? how many dpo are you now? I got to start poas again thos morning (opks) yay!! Feels good to be doing something again instead of just waiting to lol. Not expecting solid smiley until Wednesday next week though :)

Thanks for asking Love!
Im perfectly miserable lol
My youngest has been in and out of hospital since wed, so diet is terrible. I went like 20 hrs without food one dat, then ate the entire world the next. Im 6dpo, and temps are dropping already. Im crampy and no longer at all hopeful that we nailed it this month. Im also not very hopeful that my luteal phase will have improved.
Last cycle she was 8dpo. Not ideal at all, and that's with Clomid.

Now to catch up on this thread and find out who's got s BFP! I need some good news in my life!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I know if I have another boy he will be my world just like my boys now, I adore them and wouldn't change them for anything. But I will morn never having a daughter.

I was content with 2 kids but when we decided to try for a third I felt a wave of emotion and pressure on me, sometimes when I think of just having 2 it goes away and I feel content. But I know I also want another Bub!


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I know this pressure you speak of.


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I think I just feel a lot of pressure from myself and from friends and family it has actually caused me anxiety, most days I'm good but some days it's not fun.

If I get my BFP next week I'll be very excited though and just hope for the best. [emoji5]️
That will be my answer about doing HT.


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How many dpo again?


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

6dpo for me


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Ok same here. We're total test buddies - but I do feel AF is rolling in :( crampy? Lower temps....


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[TaytumJ]

Hitme: So sorry you feel like AF is coming. Hopefully she stays away though - it's not over until she's here!!

Magical: I hope, hope, hope this month is your pink BFP [emoji177] If not though, it sounds like you have a good plan or at least a sign.

Nettie: welcome! Don't think too hard about the 3 days before O (Shettles). Anyone around here will tell you that has been debunked my lots of research. You can still have one attempt at +OPK, O the next day, and have great chances for a girl! Hoping you get a pink bean!

Good luck to the rest of you; you're right, this thread moves fast! Not much to report from me...no temp until Monday. Just trying to relax!


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[momamia4]

Daisy, OLE actually improves the quality of the sperm but somehow still sways girl. Atomic said she hasn't figured that out yet. I would keep him on it.

Hitme, so sorry about your ds! I hope he recovers quickly!

I am 8dpo and a raging biotch to my poor DH and kids. I started having hot flashes last night after dinner and feeling really light headed like I was going to pass out. Then I slept horribly last night. So, today should be interesting. I'm having DH take the kids to see a movie and I'm going over to my sister's house. I'm hoping a break will help my sanity to return. Lol! I'll post my chart in a bit. It's a weird chart though. I don't understand it. Hahaha! Maybe one of you will be able to make sense of it.

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[daisy4]

Daisy, OLE actually improves the quality of the sperm but somehow still says girl. Atomic said she hasn't figured that out yet. I would keep him in it.

Hitme, so sorry about your ds! I hope he recovers quickly!

I am 8dpo and a raging biotch to my poor DH and kids. I started having hot flashes last night after dinner and feeling really light headed like I was going to pass out. Then I slept horribly last night. So, today should be interesting. I'm having DH take the kids to see a movie and I'm going over to my sister's house. I'm hoping a break will help my sanity to return. Lol! I'll post my chart in a bit. It's a weird chart though. I don't understand it. Hahaha! Maybe one of you will be able to make sense of it.

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Thanks [emoji1]

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[twointow83]

Hey all any chance of a recap where everyones at? Just started to go back through thread but it sooo large lol. Junie I think we were going to be close cycle buddies and yaybaby?
True how many dpo are you? Think your temping but not using opks as weren't trying intentionally? Can you post a chart?
Hitme!! Where are you?? Can you also post your chart?
Momamia? As above and where are you at? Sorry for all those I haven't mentioned!!!!! Please update where you are I only went back a couple pages and mentioned those from June :) and those close to me cycle wise :)

I am CD 22. Everything I have been doing to pinpoint O (OPKs, temp, CM/CP) hasn't exactly helped pin it down, which I am blaming clomid for. I am going with being 2 DPO, even though my temps disagree, for 3 reasons. 1- I need to quit stressing about when O is, was or will be and I am supposed to call my doc CD 35 if nothing has happened O or AF/BFP wise so by the time I know for sure if my assumed O date isn't correct it'd be almost time to call my doc. 2- My CM/CP has been trending towards infertile since yesterday and 3- I had some serious cramps on my left side on Wen night.

Honestly, I have just kinda given up on this cycle but we are still BD E4D just in case. Like CIB, I have been cheating on the diet a lot. Very hungry the last couple days, and it's hard to stay on track when I feel like this cycle is a bust. I had been avoiding red meat like the plague but Thur. night hubby took me out for an early b-day dinner and I was just kinda like frick it, and I got the burger and onion rings I have been craving. It all just feels kinda pointless. I can't get my girl if I can't get preg, I can't get preg if I am not O'ing and I don't know if I have or will.

[twointow83]

I know if I have another boy he will be my world just like my boys now, I adore them and wouldn't change them for anything. But I will morn never having a daughter.

I was content with 2 kids but when we decided to try for a third I felt a wave of emotion and pressure on me, sometimes when I think of just having 2 it goes away and I feel content. But I know I also want another Bub!


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Right there with you. It took DH 2 years to talk me into TTC again because I am in school and my boys are autistic so they can be a handful. Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy as long as the baby is healthy but salivating over girly clothes and the idea of having a girl is what finally got me to agree to TTC... that and my age... not getting any younger here lol. My boys want a sister, hubby wants a daughter, my best friend, who I consider a "sister from another mister", lol, wants a niece. My hubby's nieces want us to have a girl... the pressure is everywhere, including from myself. After our most recent loss and we learned she was a girl it made the desire to have a girl even stronger as I know it is possible now and I don't want to have to live with the knowledge that we lost the only girl we ever had. That's a lot-o-pressure. So you aren't alone! :fx: for you!

[momamia4]

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[twointow83]

*fingers crossed* momamia!

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[mammyof2boys]

No af yet, it was due wed,defo not pg as I have done many tests and all have come up negative,wish it would just hurry up so that I can move on to the next cycle. So depressing :( Just found out another person in our family is pg, I am happy for them but its just another reminder of our loss :(

[momamia4]

Sorry mammy. Hugs!!!

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[Magical22]

How many dpo again?


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7 dpo today


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[twointow83]

((((Hugs))) mammy. I'm sorry :(

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[Magical22]

Right there with you. It took DH 2 years to talk me into TTC again because I am in school and my boys are autistic so they can be a handful. Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy as long as the baby is healthy but salivating over girly clothes and the idea of having a girl is what finally got me to agree to TTC... that and my age... not getting any younger here lol. My boys want a sister, hubby wants a daughter, my best friend, who I consider a "sister from another mister", lol, wants a niece. My hubby's nieces want us to have a girl... the pressure is everywhere, including from myself. After our most recent loss and we learned she was a girl it made the desire to have a girl even stronger as I know it is possible now and I don't want to have to live with the knowledge that we lost the only girl we ever had. That's a lot-o-pressure. So you aren't alone! :fx: for you!

Thank you always good to know your not alone. Sorry for you loss. Xx


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[Magical22]

No af yet, it was due wed,defo not pg as I have done many tests and all have come up negative,wish it would just hurry up so that I can move on to the next cycle. So depressing :( Just found out another person in our family is pg, I am happy for them but its just another reminder of our loss :(

I'm so sorry!

At the moment I have 3 friends on Facebook who are pregnant with the gender they don't have, so all about to have their pigeon pair, I can't go on Facebook much lately.


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[Pbn3]

Thanks for asking Love!
Im perfectly miserable lol
My youngest has been in and out of hospital since wed, so diet is terrible. I went like 20 hrs without food one dat, then ate the entire world the next. Im 6dpo, and temps are dropping already. Im crampy and no longer at all hopeful that we nailed it this month. Im also not very hopeful that my luteal phase will have improved.
Last cycle she was 8dpo. Not ideal at all, and that's with Clomid.

Now to catch up on this thread and find out who's got s BFP! I need some good news in my life!


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Sorry to hear your ds hasn't been well I hope he's better now :(
I thought clomid helped extend luteal phase? Was it longer before you started on clomid? Maybe if this cycle isn't successful try one without it? (you're only taking for swaying purposes right? sorry if I'm wrong) I hope it gets sorted for you next cycle but in saying that this one isn't done yet! There's still a chance!

[Pbn3]

Twointow so sorry about your loss.
I hope your cycle, temps etc start making sense again for you. Why do things go like clockwork up until you really need them to and then decide to go haywire!!! So you wont be doing a hpt before the 35 days?

[Pbn3]

gl momamia!! When are you testing?

Mammy sorry to hear, strange your af is so late?? Has it done this b4?

[Pbn3]

Help please Ladies!! just a quick question in relation to fr. Hubby released once last week and we've been aiming at release twice a week previously. Our attempt is looking at being Tuesday or Wednesday. Should he release today (Sunday) or abstain until we dtd? I want the swimmers fresh but also don't want to deplete the stores :) What would you recommend?

[Boysboys]

Help please Ladies!! just a quick question in relation to fr. Hubby released once last week and we've been aiming at release twice a week previously. Our attempt is looking at being Tuesday or Wednesday. Should he release today (Sunday) or abstain until we dtd? I want the swimmers fresh but also don't want to deplete the stores :) What would you recommend?

We released last night so I'm thinking we are going to save up for our one attempt! The only thing that worries me if I O later than I expect which is not unusual for me and it's too long! Could possibly be 8 days and my hubby is 37. So much to think about!lol

[momamia4]

Pbn3, I'd have him release today.

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[ImmiNAddi]

Pbn, I agree with momamia :)

[Pbn3]

Thanks ladies! Hope he's up to it after 2 nights shifts and going in again tonight lol

[YayBaby678]

Hey all any chance of a recap where everyones at? Just started to go back through thread but it sooo large lol. Junie I think we were going to be close cycle buddies and yaybaby?
True how many dpo are you? Think your temping but not using opks as weren't trying intentionally? Can you post a chart?
Hitme!! Where are you?? Can you also post your chart?
Momamia? As above and where are you at? Sorry for all those I haven't mentioned!!!!! Please update where you are I only went back a couple pages and mentioned those from June :) and those close to me cycle wise :)

Hi Pbn! I'm 3 DPO today. I've had a ton of period-like cramping since the day before O. I know its too early for anything pregnancy related, but I hope its not a sign of something being wrong. I had cramping like that on and off all throughout the month last month too... My first Ob/Gyn had mentioned the possibility of endometriosis many years ago but I figured I was fine because we were able to conceive once. Hopefully its not something I'll have to worry about.

covered - FX for you! You sure have patience to hold off on testing!

momamia - your chart looks great and bitchiness is a great sign :D

hitme - Pregnancy symptoms can often feel the same as AF symptoms, you're not out yet!

GL to the rest of those waiting to O and waiting to test :)

[twointow83]

Twointow so sorry about your loss.
I hope your cycle, temps etc start making sense again for you. Why do things go like clockwork up until you really need them to and then decide to go haywire!!! So you wont be doing a hpt before the 35 days?

Good question, wish I knew.

Haha, I doubt I'll be able to wait that long, but I am going to try to at least wait until CD 30+. *IF* I did O on CD 20 then I wouldn't be able to get a +, if preg, until at least 10 dpo, which is the 30th, anyway so there really isn't much point testing before then. And with me not knowing for sure I O'd, or if I did exactly when, it makes it hard to be sure exactly when 10 DPO is. I am just going off guesses based on cramps, CP/CM shifts and a shift in my OPKs from ALWAYS having 2 obvious lines (but always -) to being either stark white or a barely visible line. It's really all guesswork that could mean O, or it could mean that my body finally gave up trying to O :shrug: Obviously, I am hoping for the former.

[momamia4]

Lots of twinges on the left. :) I am really bad at not getting my hopes up, lol! DH asked me to wait until Monday to test again because he'll be home so we can celebrate. No pressure there, lol!

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[twointow83]

Lots of twinges on the left. :) I am really bad at not getting my hopes up, lol! DH asked me to wait until Monday to test again because he'll be home so we can celebrate. No pressure there, lol!

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Just 1 more day ;) you can do what I do if I am trying to make sure I don't test. When you wake up run straight to the bathroom and pee before you can test, then the rest of the day drink a TON of fluids to make sure you have to pee frequently. It is too early to test with diluted urine and without holding it in for awhile so if you make it so you have no choice but to pee a lot it lowers the urge because you know you won't get an accurate reading if you do :) OR if you REALLY need to POAS use an OPK instead. You'll get a faint + HPT before a +OPK (I ran an experiment with my last preg... good thing I ended up being preg or I would have wasted the OPKs, lol. I'll attach a pic so you can see for yourself) but sometimes it helps, being a POAS addict myself, just to see if the line is getting darker ;)


HPTs (I actually had super faint +'s before these but nothing I could get on camera) :
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[momamia4]

That's a good idea, twointow83!! I will make sure all of my hpts are in a different room, lol! Then I can't test in the morning even if I wanted to. Luckily, we're going to a concert tomorrow, so I won't be home to test. :)

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Sorry to hear your ds hasn't been well I hope he's better now :(
I thought clomid helped extend luteal phase? Was it longer before you started on clomid? Maybe if this cycle isn't successful try one without it? (you're only taking for swaying purposes right? sorry if I'm wrong) I hope it gets sorted for you next cycle but in saying that this one isn't done yet! There's still a chance!


I didn't have trackable cycles before trying the Clomid but you are right, since I went from not having af until ds 4 turned 1, but yes, it's supposed to be a great fix for short lp.

I know it ain't over til the fat lady since but I just feel very premenstrual.

Im not even tempted to POAS which normally I'd be all over starting 6dpo lol

Here is my chart.

I think I like twos idea of using the opks... If she she doenst come in the next couple days.

How soon can you test with wondfos anyway?


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[twointow83]

That's a good idea, twointow83!! I will make sure all of my hpts are in a different room, lol! Then I can't test in the morning even if I wanted to. Luckily, we're going to a concert tomorrow, so I won't be home to test. :)

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Sounds like a plan! :fx: for Monday!

[twointow83]

I didn't have trackable cycles before trying the Clomid but you are right, since I went from not having af until ds 4 turned 1, but yes, it's supposed to be a great fix for short lp.

I know it ain't over til the fat lady since but I just feel very premenstrual.

Im not even tempted to POAS which normally I'd be all over starting 6dpo lol


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(((HUGS))) If it makes you feel any better at all I felt the exact same way with DS #2. I only tested to brace myself for AF. I didn't even wait for the result. I walked out of the bathroom and worked on some things. Later, I went in the bothroom and remembered I had taken the the test figured I might as well take a look. I'll never forget my shock when I saw a second line had popped up! So don't give up hope just yet. :hug2:

[Pbn3]

I didn't have trackable cycles before trying the Clomid but you are right, since I went from not having af until ds 4 turned 1, but yes, it's supposed to be a great fix for short lp.

I know it ain't over til the fat lady since but I just feel very premenstrual.

Im not even tempted to POAS which normally I'd be all over starting 6dpo lol


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I'll have my fx for you in any case hitme. And if no bfp this cycle then I hope your lt phase lengthens at least.

[momamia4]

Hitme, FX for your bfp! I'm sorry the clomid isn't doing it's job. Hugs!!

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[Magical22]

I want to be pregnant!! That is all [emoji39]


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[twointow83]

I didn't have trackable cycles before trying the Clomid but you are right, since I went from not having af until ds 4 turned 1, but yes, it's supposed to be a great fix for short lp.

I know it ain't over til the fat lady since but I just feel very premenstrual.

Im not even tempted to POAS which normally I'd be all over starting 6dpo lol

Here is my chart.

I think I like twos idea of using the opks... If she she doenst come in the next couple days.

How soon can you test with wondfos anyway?


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Lol, you edited on me ;) You can use them as early as implantation BUT it takes a day or 2 for the HCG to get high enough for the OPKs to detect it. HCG and LH are like identical twins, but one has a nose job, so to speak. OPKs looks for the twin, but HPTs look for the nose job ;) Don't be surprised if you OPK is a bit darker then gets lighter before getting darker again. Mine did that. 5DPO had a darker line than 6 DPO but after that there was a steady climb as you can see. I think maybe there might be a bit of LH or something released just before implantation... but that is just a guess.

ETA: your chart looks really promising so far :fx:

ETA again: this post is assuming you are asking about testing with OPKs, for testing with HPTs a good rule of thumb is to wait until 9 DPO, bare minimum, and each day your chances of an accurate result increase.

[momamia4]

Lol, magical! I feel the exact same way! :)

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[twointow83]

I want to be pregnant!! That is all [emoji39]


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:rofl: Here! Here!

[Magical22]

I didn't have trackable cycles before trying the Clomid but you are right, since I went from not having af until ds 4 turned 1, but yes, it's supposed to be a great fix for short lp.

I know it ain't over til the fat lady since but I just feel very premenstrual.

Im not even tempted to POAS which normally I'd be all over starting 6dpo lol

Here is my chart.

I think I like twos idea of using the opks... If she she doenst come in the next couple days.

How soon can you test with wondfos anyway?


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I feel exactly the same way 7dpo and I feel out already planning to call my FS tomorrow and book into see him. I want to get a lap procedure done, to clean me out make sure I have no endo or scaring etc, because I have no idea why this is not working, and he said the same. When I had my miscarriage and d&c I fell pregnant the very next cycle so I'm guessing I was all cleaned out from the d and c, maybe that might do the trick.


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[twointow83]

I feel exactly the same way 7dpo and I feel out already planning to call my FS tomorrow and book into see him. I want to get a lap procedure done, to clean me out make sure I have no endo or scaring etc, because I have no idea why this is working, and he said the same. When I had my miscarriage and d&c I fell pregnant the very next cycle so I'm guessing I was all cleaned out from the d and c, maybe that might do the trick.

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Ugh! Endo SUCKS! My mom had it BAD so I know what it can do. I have a variation called adenomyosis which is
Adenomyosis (ad-uh-no-my-O-sis) occurs when endometrial tissue, which normally lines the uterus, exists within and grows into the muscular wall of the uterus. The displaced endometrial tissue continues to act as it normally would — thickening, breaking down and bleeding — during each menstrual cycle. An enlarged uterus and painful, heavy periods can result. Which is no picnic either, but better than endo in my opinion after seeing what my mom went through. :hug2: :fx: your are preg, but if not I hope your FS can help you out!

[twointow83]

I just ordered some wondfo tests. I hear so much about them and they are actually cheaper than the ones I normally buy. Just hoping they work better and end the confusion in future cycles.

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[Magical22]

My mum had too really bad, I hope I don't have it.


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[twointow83]

My mum had too really bad, I hope I don't have it.


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Oh, I misread :oops: I thought you had said you have it... I went back and re-read what you said and I now see that you want to be checked for it. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

[XXforhubby]

Just dropping by to check on you ladies and to drop off more baby dust [emoji6]!

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In regards to Wondfo's, I had great luck with both the opks and the HcG ones. I got my BFP at 10DPO and it was super clear. I say if your chart looks great or if you feel great (no AF symptoms), then I would test! I could have been either 10 or 12DPO- you can check out my chart it is still in my signature (I won't take it down- I'm a bit superstitious [emoji6]).

FX and [emoji120]🏻 you lovely ladies get your BFPs soon!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Lol Ya I am sneaky like that haha

Ya I have way more OPKS than hpts so I might try that. Did you use fMu as well? Or does it matter?


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[XXforhubby]

I did use FMU for the Wondfo HcG test thinking it would be negative like always. I went and had a cup of coffee and got the boys breakfast. When I checked it was positive and I spit coffee everywhere! I had to pee so I though what the hell and peed in a cup for a FRER and a CB digital. Those were extremely positive too with SMU!

Main take away is if you're pregnant, it will show up in your pee regardless!!!

FX and [emoji120]🏻 for you, and all the other lovely ladies that this is your month!!!


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[twointow83]

Lol Ya I am sneaky like that haha

Ya I have way more OPKS than hpts so I might try that. Did you use fMu as well? Or does it matter?


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For OPK as HPT I used FMU. That is when HCG is at it's highest concentration. Especially early on :)

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Well tomorrow I am 8dpo. I was 8dpo last month when I spotted (evening, around support time). So im gonna hold out and wait. I really just am hoping for a normal Lp this month.


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[covered in blue]

BFP !!!! Aaaaahhhh yay I'm so excited! It's 2am CD24 and I couldn't sleep so I thought I might as well just POAS lol.
Thank you ladies for all your support xx. Sprinkling large amounts of baby dust around for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!26107

[covered in blue]

Oh and that green stick is an OPK :)

[daisy4]

Yea congrats covered so excited for you hope its a pink bean [emoji1] [emoji322]

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[momamia4]

Omg!!!!! Congratulations Covered in Blue!!!! How exciting!!!!!!!!

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[covered in blue]

Thank you ladies :). I hope you all join me!

[TaytumJ]

Congrats Covered!! That's a super strong + too!! [emoji92][emoji177][emoji92][emoji166]


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[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats Covered! Yay!!


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[twointow83]

BFP !!!! Aaaaahhhh yay I'm so excited! It's 2am CD24 and I couldn't sleep so I thought I might as well just POAS lol.
Thank you ladies for all your support xx. Sprinkling large amounts of baby dust around for everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!26107
OMG!! Congrats!! Sticky vibes!!

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[momamia4]

So, I'm either completely crazy or I got a super, super faint bfp today. 0.o I'm so afraid of jinxing it!!!! I showed the test to DH and he thinks there is a line too!!

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[momamia4]

Can you see it? http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/c87d34673d138a6f40ca5be378245181.jpg

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[twointow83]

Can you see it? http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/12/c87d34673d138a6f40ca5be378245181.jpg

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I think I see something too.

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[momamia4]

It doesn't show up as good in the pic as it does in real life. :/ That makes me feel more crazy, lol! FX for my frer tomorrow! :D

[True Blue]

OMG Mommas!!!!!!! Huge congratulations to you covered & Momamia I can see it !!

So excited for you both :cheerteam:

[Junie]

Congrats covered in blue!!!!

I see it momamia4, congrats!!!

[daisy4]

Awww I see it momamia congrats [emoji2] [emoji322]

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Congrats CIB!!!
Momamia I see that line too!!! Fx for that FRER!!!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

For OPK as HPT I used FMU. That is when HCG is at it's highest concentration. Especially early on :)

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When testing with an OpK does it have to be a true positive the way it is when testing lh? Or does it need to look like CIBs does in her post?


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[Boysboys]

Omg! Congratulations ladies!! I can totally see the faint line!!! How exciting!! 😍🙏🏻🎀

[momamia4]

Thanks everyone! You're all making me feel significantly less crazy! I really hope tomorrows is more visible. :D Have I mentioned that I'm starving and having a really hard time not snacking? This is rough...

Hitme, if you look at two's, it looks like hers started out light and slowly got darker just like when testing LH. HTH.

[covered in blue]

Yay momamia :). FXed for tomorrow! How exciting!

[XXforhubby]

Momamia, I totally see a line! Huge congrats!!!

Hitme, if using opks as a pregnancy test they should look dark like covered' was in her post. Although that many days past O if the line is dark, I would call it a positive and follow up with a better HcG test like a FRER or a CBD!!


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[Mulberry Smurf]

congratulations ladies :) super news xx

[momamia4]

Hitme, have you messaged atomic about taking B6 to help your short LP? I just found this: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/521-guide-supplements-ttc-pink.html?521-GUIDE-TO-SUPPLEMENTS-FOR-TTC-PINK=
Maybe it will help you! :D

[Pbn3]

Wow what awesome news to wake up to!! Two BFPs!!!

Huge congratulations covered and momamia!!!

[momamia4]

Thanks Pbn3!! I just hope it keeps getting darker!! FX!

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[twointow83]

When testing with an OpK does it have to be a true positive the way it is when testing lh? Or does it need to look like CIBs does in her post?


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To count like a + hpt, it has to be + also. But it's interesting (and kills time till you can use an hpt) to watch for the line getting darker. I get 100 opks in a pack so I use them to satisfy my addiction to POAS, lol. I should also mention, a little PSA lol, that this is only advised if you know for sure you O'd because otherwise you could just be detecting O, and always use an HPT to confirm.

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[Pbn3]

So I just got a solid smiley!! Will dtd tonight then begins the temp rise waiting game lol! I'm only on cd10 a full two days earlier than last cycle. Should o sometime tomorrow. I've oed b4 cd11 but its usually cd13. At least my lt phase is pretty consistently 13 days rarely changes so despite promising myself not to test early for bfp I'll have buckleys of keeping it :):)
Cant wait to temp over next two mornings and be officially in 2ww!!!

[True Blue]

Good Luck Pbn :) x

[ImmiNAddi]

Good luck Pbn - this is your month! :)

[Pbn3]

Thanks ladies and Immi I sure hope so :) Can't believe o is coming early lol hubby came off last night shift this morning so we'll have the tiredness on our side!

[Magical22]

Omg covered [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] congratulations!!

Momamia I will be stalking you!!

Good luck today Hitme!!!


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[twointow83]

So I just got a solid smiley!! Will dtd tonight then begins the temp rise waiting game lol! I'm only on cd10 a full two days earlier than last cycle. Should o sometime tomorrow. I've oed b4 cd11 but its usually cd13. At least my lt phase is pretty consistently 13 days rarely changes so despite promising myself not to test early for bfp I'll have buckleys of keeping it :):)
Cant wait to temp over next two mornings and be officially in 2ww!!!

:fx:

[momamia4]

Good luck Pbn3!!! FX FX FX!!

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[twointow83]

So, DH talked me into keeping OPK testing by saying if I don't I'll never know if I ever surged. I was out of tests so he went to walmart and bought the cheapest pack there just to tide me until my wondfos arrive. The ones he bought are blue dye tests, which I am not used to so some input would be greatly appreciated!!

Is this +? Looks like it to me but I'm not 100%... It is just SOOOO light compared to pink dye tests!
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[Pbn3]

That looks pos to me Twointow they look so close in color!!

[twointow83]

That looks pos to me Twointow they look so close in color!!

And of all the luck it's my b-day AND BD day! :bigsmile: I want to get excited SO bad but I have been jerked around so much this cycle it is hard to trust anything! :nails::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::fingers::fin gers::fingers::fingers::fingers:

[TaytumJ]

I'm not good with the blue dyes either Two, but that looks + to me!! Hopefully it's a real, for sure O now!!

And big congrats mommamia!! Yay!!

Good weekend here, although I really wanted to know my temp. [emoji6] No real symptoms though so not feeling good about it, but bought some FRER just in case! Haha


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[Pbn3]

Wow funny how things seem to line up just right sometimes!! Looks like we may well be cycle buddies two!!

[twointow83]

Wow funny how things seem to lune up just right sometimes!! Looks like we may well be cycle buddies two!!

That'd be awesome! When did you say you thought you'd O? So many ppl to keep track of on here lol, and hard to keep everyone straight in my head :oops:

[Pbn3]

When do you test taytum? Good luck hope its a bfp!!

[Pbn3]

Got my solid smiley just this morning will bd tonight and hopefully o tomorrow :)

[TaytumJ]

I'm wanting to hold out until next Friday 12dpo, but maybe Wednesday at 10? Like I said, with nothing happening/standing out to me I don't have high hopes so who knows if I will actually test or just wait to see if AF shows...


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[twointow83]

I'm not good with the blue dyes either Two, but that looks + to me!! Hopefully it's a real, for sure O now!!

And big congrats mommamia!! Yay!!

Good weekend here, although I really wanted to know my temp. [emoji6] No real symptoms though so not feeling good about it, but bought some FRER just in case! Haha


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Thanks! No symptoms don't necessarily mean anything. The ONLY preg I've had were I had noticeably uncharacteristic signs is my most recent one. With her I pretty much got a headache practically the moment of implantation (obvious exaggeration there, but it started pretty early on). It was what made me test to begin with. Personally, I have found the cycles I had the most "symptoms" ended in BFNs. Don't give up hope yet!

[Boysboys]

So I just got a solid smiley!! Will dtd tonight then begins the temp rise waiting game lol! I'm only on cd10 a full two days earlier than last cycle. Should o sometime tomorrow. I've oed b4 cd11 but its usually cd13. At least my lt phase is pretty consistently 13 days rarely changes so despite promising myself not to test early for bfp I'll have buckleys of keeping it :):)
Cant wait to temp over next two mornings and be officially in 2ww!!!

Yay!!!! Maybe I won't be too far behind you!! 🙏🏻😀😉

[twointow83]

Got my solid smiley just this morning will bd tonight and hopefully o tomorrow :)

Oh wow, you can tell I am functioning on 2 hours sleep to forget something posted today :rofl: I didn't test yesterday so I have no idea whether it would have been +, but I generally have 2-3 days of +OPKs before O.

I just keep arguing with myself about if it is real or not, lol. I am going to take another when I have to pee again... hopefully it will be more obvious. This first test might have gotten messed up. I am not used to literally peeing on a stick. Generally I pee in a cup. So my body didn't want to relax enough to go so very little got on the test until I grabbed a cup and did my thing the way I am used to. I just wonder if it is so light because something is wrong with the test itself or if the "almost" pee followed by a minute or two of nothing and then finally submersion affected it negatively. So, I want to re-test to be sure before I count it as an official +... now if I could just need to pee already lol. I keep fighting the urge to guzzle fluids so I'll have to pee, because I know it'll dilute everything.

[Boysboys]

Just got home from target and I bought dadgum replens instead of refresh!!!! Luckily I have one tube of reohresh to use tomorrow. Grrrr!!! ������

I am so ready to get this show on the road I can't stand it!! We are going out of town this weekend and staying in the same room as my In laws. I will most likely get my positive so we are going to have to be inventive!lol I told DH we may just have to get the boys to sleep and go park somewhere! ������

[Pbn3]

Hopefully you'll get an early pos like me boysboys and be able to dtd before you go away!! What cd are you on now?

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Hitme, have you messaged atomic about taking B6 to help your short LP? I just found this: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-girl-best-practices/521-guide-supplements-ttc-pink.html?521-GUIDE-TO-SUPPLEMENTS-FOR-TTC-PINK=
Maybe it will help you! :D

I may very well have to do something. I feel it coming. Thanks for the link!


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[twointow83]

2nd test same as first.... :fingers: :pray:

[momamia4]

Two, it looks positive to me!! GL!! :)

Boysboys, GL to you too!! Lol!!


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[Boyboygirl]

That is too funny Boysboys! I'm going away this upcoming weekend as well and also expecting to o while we're away haha. We are staying at my inlaws house but thankfully not in the same bedroom haha!

[Boyboygirl]

Just got home from target and I bought dadgum replens instead of refresh!!!! Luckily I have one tube of reohresh to use tomorrow. Grrrr!!! ������

I am so ready to get this show on the road I can't stand it!! We are going out of town this weekend and staying in the same room as my In laws. I will most likely get my positive so we are going to have to be inventive!lol I told DH we may just have to get the boys to sleep and go park somewhere! ������

That is too funny Boysboys! I'm going away this upcoming weekend as well and also expecting to o while we're away. We are staying at my inlaws house but thankfully not in the same bedroom haha!

[Boysboys]

I'm 8 dpo. I think it'll be right in the middle of the weekend!lol oh me!! Our first was concieved in Tennessee so maybe our last will be concieved there as well!!

[twointow83]

Good luck to those testing (or retesting ;) )tomorrow!

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I wish I knew if my Lp was going to be normal or not. Now in addition to crAmps I actually have an increased sex drive Which never happens during pms for me. But all other signs point to af coming soon.


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[momamia4]

Hitme, I'm crossing my fingers that it's an early pregnancy sign. :D

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[twointow83]

Ditto momamia!! *fingers crossed*

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[Boyboygirl]

Fingers crossed for you hitme!
Boysboys - are you just going to use RePhresh 3 days before predicted attempt? Or just on day of attempt?
I didn't use any RePhresh in June but I do have one dose.. Debating if I should give it a try - especially since my diet hasn't been as great as last month due to visitors and the last tww when I thought I was pregnant.

[Pbn3]

Does anyone know why hot shower before bd sways girl? its in my plan but if its just to reduce swimmers my dh released yesterday morning. We are bding tonight....I suppose I'm wondering if we should bother?

[daisy4]

GL ladies hope there are more bfp this month [emoji1] . Af arrived late last night I am out. I am changing my sway so hopefully July will be my month.

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[Pbn3]

Hugs Daisy I'm sorry to hear af came :( have you thought about what you'll change for next cycle?

[daisy4]

Pbn yes I am sticking to the diet and 1 attempt at pos opk. I am just worried because my diet hasn't been the best sense I have been visiting family. I will be back home in Tuesday so hopefully I could be really strict from then .Otherwise I will have to revert back to rephresh.

I believe I read somewhere on the forum that male sperm do not like heat, so the heat will attract more female sperms. I guess in that way it does reduce swimmers

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[Pbn3]

Thanks Daisy was done and dusted anyway :) I had hot shower about 2hours prior and dh right before dtd :) I didn't j&d either, laid with hips elevated for about 20mins. If 16 weeks on le diet with very miminal cheats and one attempt at pos opk don't get me my girl then so be it I'll be happy just to see a bfp. A bit over the whole swaying thing atm though, I guess I'll wait and see what happens. If af comes this cycle I'll probably be right back into it again! Aarggh!

[daisy4]

Sounds like a very good attempt good luck [emoji1] . Hope you get a bfp with a girl this month.

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[daisy4]

How many cycles does this make for you ttc pbn?

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[TaytumJ]

Daisy: so sorry AF showed up. [emoji17] Take care of yourself and it sounds like you're already ready for next month - can't wait to see your BFP!

Pbn3: I hear you on ring over swaying; I don't even feel like boy swaying is nearly as difficult as girl and I'm still over it! I know most of you would kill for a burger, but I'm so tired of them! Lol. Guess the grass isn't always greener.

Two: FX for that temp shift!!

Glad to temp today although I'm not sure how accurate it is! I woke up early, but laid still in bed. Really crampy this morning too as I'm laying here. I'm going in for my progesterone test today so FX those numbers look good!!


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[True Blue]

So sorry Daisy :(

Taytum I'm 6dpo and no symptoms whatsoever. I'm holding onto hope though :) I had a dream I was pregnant I'm hoping its some mad inner intuition thing :D

[Pbn3]

Only 2nd Daisy which sounds bad considering it took me 4 months with ds1 and 6 months charting, using opks, multiple attempts etc with ds2 (had no idea natural swaying existed then) it just seems like forever as I've been pretty much on a diet since last September/October even prior to learning about and starting Atomics le diet back in March. I'm sooo tired of counting calories, fat and protein but feel I've put so much effort in now to throw it all away. So in reality I'll probably keep soldiering on but December is our cut off date ttc so by October if I haven't got bfp will definately start adding addition attempts I think. There's not much else I can do, not using lubes or anything to make more hostile environment, not using antihistamines as cm so reduced already, my cycles are nearly a week shorter than when ttc my boys so other than adding attempts not sure what else I could do :)

[daisy4]

Daisy: so sorry AF showed up. [emoji17] Take care of yourself and it sounds like you're already ready for next month - can't wait to see your BFP!

Pbn3: I hear you on ring over swaying; I don't even feel like boy swaying is nearly as difficult as girl and I'm still over it! I know most of you would kill for a burger, but I'm so tired of them! Lol. Guess the grass isn't always greener.

Two: FX for that temp shift!!

Glad to temp today although I'm not sure how accurate it is! I woke up early, but laid still in bed. Really crampy this morning too as I'm laying here. I'm going in for my progesterone test today so FX those numbers look good!!


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Thanks Taytum swaying is not fun [emoji20] . Hope the test goes well and you get good numbers [emoji3]

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[True Blue]

Pbn I can relate I started my swaying in July last year so while realistically we are only on our third month I'm like so over the swaying stuff and it feels like forever :D
I have another few cycles in me - I'm stubborn. We have tried 4 times over 10 years to conceive a boy so I'm thinking these 3 (or more) cycles can't beat that :D

[XXforhubby]

Hang in there ladies- you are all doing great! I'll be axing everything and praying you all get your BFPs!! And dropping more baby dust [emoji597][emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]!!


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[True Blue]

Good luck with the testing Taytum :)

[Pbn3]

Good luck taytum!!

And true I can't wait till you test!! You must be 6/7 dpo now?? How are you feeling?
Edited to say just reread your post (moves so fast!) and I say a dream is a good thing! a sign even! when are you testing?

[Pbn3]

oh and another thing I can't wait not to worry about..... whether I've slept with my mouth open or not ':)' (how do you do those crying with laughter smileys lol)

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Good morning! Today is cd 8 and any day past today is a win in my opinion. Is hard to not go test - esp that I compared my charts to last month and it's significantly better
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/1f7a51fb8033eb761980112fb9c85414.jpg
That's this month ^

And last month

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/9de85b92f73f423b86880d7744fb9ce7.jpg

Becoming cautiously optimistic that maybe i really could be pregnant :)


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[DreamingPink2015]

Congratulations covered in blue :cheerteam:

[Pbn3]

Hitme fx fx fx fx!!!! it does look promising and I hope so badly you are going to post a bfp!!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I peed on an OPk. Stark white. I'll be back to being not optimistic lol it's safer that way.


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[Pbn3]

You're only 8dpo this morning give yourself some time! That's super early for a line even on a hpt! Try hold out if possible till 10dpo and maybe use a frer if u can :)

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Lol Ya Idk what came over me lol!!!


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[TaytumJ]

Your chart looks GREAT, Hitme! I almost tested this am at 8dpo too but then I told myself I was crazy. I'm holding out until Wednesday at 10dpo or Thursday with a FRER. So test with me then! [emoji12]


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[True Blue]

Pbn I'm hoping to last until Thursday to test. That will be 9dpo.

Looks like a few of us testing then. I'm very nervous.

[momamia4]

Well, the line yesterday must have been a evap line or something because my frer was completely white today. :/ I am not very hopeful as today is 10dpo. I wish I would have been temping for longer so I'd have a better idea of what my chart means. I only have next month to ttc before we take a two month break. I think I'm going to add another attempt next month. We did E3D this month but it still ended up being only 1 attempt in my fertile window. I'm going to add an attempt at +opk. I'm not sure what else to do and next month will be 5 months ttc. GL to everyone testing!

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[twointow83]

GL ladies hope there are more bfp this month [emoji1] . Af arrived late last night I am out. I am changing my sway so hopefully July will be my month.

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:bighug: I'm so sorry Daisy! :pray: and :fingers: that this cycle will be the one!

[momamia4]

Sorry Daisy!!!! :hugs:

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[daisy4]

Thanks ladies
Momamia I wouldn't count you out yet, you never know could be positive in a few days [emoji1]

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[True Blue]

I'm sorry momamia I was sure I could see that line too!!
I'm not looking forward to testing I so much hate those BFN's :(

[momamia4]

Thanks ladies!! :)

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[twointow83]

Thanks Daisy was done and dusted anyway :) I had hot shower about 2hours prior and dh right before dtd :) I didn't j&d either, laid with hips elevated for about 20mins. If 16 weeks on le diet with very miminal cheats and one attempt at pos opk don't get me my girl then so be it I'll be happy just to see a bfp. A bit over the whole swaying thing atm though, I guess I'll wait and see what happens. If af comes this cycle I'll probably be right back into it again! Aarggh!

You are in better shape than me! I've been on the diet for only 6 weeks, with some cheats unfortunatly, mostly high protein days and some high calorie days because it has been soooo freaking hot I've been drinking lemonade to stay hydrated which is a lot of calories. I've continued to skip breakfast on my cheat days, though. I don't eat much so a high calorie day for me is usually due to liquid calories and usually lands me at around 2,000 calories or less and my non cheat days I was good about staying within recommended boundaries and avg about 1,200-1,400 calories a day (the lowest recommended) so I am hoping that will offset my cheat days. I also have clomid working for me, as well as issues absorbing nutrients, but I've gotten sun burnt while doing yard work 3x in 2 weeks which = Vitamin D which sways boy. So, I have no idea how it'll work out with my sway but I am eager for a BFP so I won't be preg in May (BOTH of my losses were discovered on May 1st, six years apart... not loving the idea of being preg in May). I am really going to buckle down during the 2WW though so hopefully that will help.

Glad I am not the only one who propped hips, lol. I know it's kinda a boy sway thing to do but I want that BFP lol. TMI but the "good stuff" seems to just run right out of me if I don't do something to keep it in, though I didn't prop as long as you did... maybe 5-10 mins at most then J&D because I had to pee lol, but then went back in my room and laid down for another 20 mins to give remaining sperm a little no gravity leg-up. Hoping it was enough.

Have you tested again today? I did and there is no mistaking today's test! 26136
So, I am thinking O will wither be today or tomorrow. I am hoping for today though!

:fx: for us both!

[twointow83]

Daisy: so sorry AF showed up. [emoji17] Take care of yourself and it sounds like you're already ready for next month - can't wait to see your BFP!

Pbn3: I hear you on ring over swaying; I don't even feel like boy swaying is nearly as difficult as girl and I'm still over it! I know most of you would kill for a burger, but I'm so tired of them! Lol. Guess the grass isn't always greener.

Two: FX for that temp shift!!

Glad to temp today although I'm not sure how accurate it is! I woke up early, but laid still in bed. Really crampy this morning too as I'm laying here. I'm going in for my progesterone test today so FX those numbers look good!!


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Holy monkey on a cracker! Look at that temp!! Wow!! :fx:

[twointow83]

Good morning! Today is cd 8 and any day past today is a win in my opinion. Is hard to not go test - esp that I compared my charts to last month and it's significantly better
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/1f7a51fb8033eb761980112fb9c85414.jpg
That's this month ^

And last month

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/9de85b92f73f423b86880d7744fb9ce7.jpg

Becoming cautiously optimistic that maybe i really could be pregnant :)


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You just need 2 more days for your LP to be considered on the short end of normal! :fingers::fingers: You're chart does look pretty good. I am no expert but preg or not it looks like you could make it to 10 DPO! :pray: you get your BFP though :bigsmile:

ETA: Your chart almost looks like it might be going triphasic even!

[YayBaby678]

two - There is no mistaking that those blue dye tests are positive! I'll bet you get your temp shift tomorrow :) Looks like you had good timing with your attempt too.

Yay covered!!! Congrats on your BFP!

FX True, Pbn, and hitme! Hitme, at least your LP seems to be lengthening, that's great news!

Sorry daisy and momamia! :( Sending hugs. Momamia, you're not out yet though.

I'm 5DPO today. Had some painful pulling/pinching on my lower left side this morning. It's too early for implantation so I'm not sure what the heck that was. I just don't have a good feeling for this month though, I feel like our timing sucked and I have been so sick. Ready to move on to the next month. Sorry for my pity party, haha :)

[twointow83]

I peed on an OPk. Stark white. I'll be back to being not optimistic lol it's safer that way.


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You are only 8 DPO and you just had a dip yesterday which could have been implantation. *If* implantation just happened yesterday the absolute earliest you would start to build HCG in your urine at a level detectable by an OPK is tomorrow and even then it'd prob be pretty darn faint! I am not giving up hope on your cycle yet, and you shouldn't either. I always try to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. Keeps me from getting gutted by a BFN/AF, but there is always room for a little hope. :bighug:

[twointow83]

Well, the line yesterday must have been a evap line or something because my frer was completely white today. :/ I am not very hopeful as today is 10dpo. I wish I would have been temping for longer so I'd have a better idea of what my chart means. I only have next month to ttc before we take a two month break. I think I'm going to add another attempt next month. We did E3D this month but it still ended up being only 1 attempt in my fertile window. I'm going to add an attempt at +opk. I'm not sure what else to do and next month will be 5 months ttc. GL to everyone testing!

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:bighug: 10 dpo is still early, don't give up just yet. What are your temps looking like?

[momamia4]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/b523585d074cb3b0fef2387fbd96c0dd.jpg

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[twointow83]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/b523585d074cb3b0fef2387fbd96c0dd.jpg

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You just started temping, right? So you don't know you normal LP, do you? Forgot to ask this before so I wanted to ask before I start scrutinizing your chart. Gonna do that now ;)

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[YayBaby678]

It's still sooooo early momamia. With my son I didn't get my first BFP until 12 DPO and even then the line was barely there.

[twointow83]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/13/b523585d074cb3b0fef2387fbd96c0dd.jpg

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Shoot, hard to venture a guess without knowing your LP. It looks good so far though. I'd test again tomorrow!

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[momamia4]

Well, I have been using opks for about a year so I am pretty confident that I have a 12-13 day LP. I consistently start my period the morning of 14dpo. Aka, 14 days after my +opk.

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[twointow83]

Hmmm a lot can happen in 3 days... but I stand by my statement that so far it looks good *fingers crossed*

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[momamia4]

Except for last month. Last month I started my period on 12dpo. 0.o

I know it can. It is just disappointing/frustrating.

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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Well, the line yesterday must have been a evap line or something because my frer was completely white today. :/ I am not very hopeful as today is 10dpo. I wish I would have been temping for longer so I'd have a better idea of what my chart means. I only have next month to ttc before we take a two month break. I think I'm going to add another attempt next month. We did E3D this month but it still ended up being only 1 attempt in my fertile window. I'm going to add an attempt at +opk. I'm not sure what else to do and next month will be 5 months ttc. GL to everyone testing!

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I just saw this - im so sorry. I saw that line FOR SURE. But maybe you have s longer Lp, and it's just still too early with an FRER even. (Oddly with ds4 I had a pos on a dollarama test before the FRER).

It ain't over yet. I am kinda with you on the add an attempt thing, I can't mess around with the Clomid and I remind myself im on it to away pink And twins. I have 2 rounds left....


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[momamia4]

Yeah. DH just said he wants to skip next month. Wtf?!?! I am considering doing it anyway and just pretending like it's an oops, lol!!! He only knows what I tell him anyway. I'm so sick of this stupid diet and if I have to stay on it until October (which would be our next attempt) I'm going to scream!!!!! :( He apparently just realized that if I got pregnant next month, I'd be due on his bday and he thinks that's too many things around that time (easter, his bday and our anniversary, plus potentially another baby). I don't really care and would prefer to get it over with, lol!

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[XXforhubby]

There is never a perfect time! If you wait for it, then it will never come. I say go for it anyway! Put something sexy on and attack him! He will be too distracted and won't even think about it [emoji6]! That's what I did when DH freaked out about a potential due date one month.

FX you are already pregnant and it won't come to that!!


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[momamia4]

Thanks XX!! :) I feel the same way. If we wait for "the perfect month" I'll never get pregnant, lol! He hasn't seemed to figure out that it doesn't actually happen overnight. Hahaha!! I'm just going to go with the flow and not tell him what I'm doing. :D

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[TaytumJ]

I agree Momamia; never a perfect time. I thought that for a long time about how I wanted to finish my Master's and get a new job and be there for at least a year before I started trying. And now that we've been trying for 8 months I would do anything to be pregnant. I realized everything else will wait. I would go for it! :) And your DH sounds like mine...he has no clue unless I said, "Okay, we need to get it on!" ha.

More crampy today; and much like AF type cramps around the middle. I started spotting 8DPO last cycle. Hoping that Clomid has really helped my progesterone levels - I keep waiting to hear from the doctor for my levels from today!

[momamia4]

FX TaytumJ!! :D Time sure does just seem to creep by without being noticed, doesn't it? It feels like I've been ttc forever but at the same time, I can't believe it's already the middle of July!!

[Pbn3]

Morning all! This thread always jumps by a few pages during the night lol!! Twointow I didn't know propped hips is considered a boy sway tactic uh oh lol :) temp held steady this morning yay and cant wait to temp tomorrow and fx fx fx its spiked! By the time morning comes around you'll have posted your spiked temp fxfx!!

[SweetLily]

Well, I am jumping in here ladies...officially day 1 of a long tww!

Hugs and fx for bfps for all of you!

[True Blue]

Good Luck sweetlily :)

[Pbn3]

Good luck sweet lilly! Swaying pink?

[SweetLily]

eek girls, reading your threads is like listening to my hubby! We had a financial issue this last 4 weeks and he decided to put ttc on hold. I turn 39 in a month-ish, I dont have time to wait for perfect timing!!! He doesn't get that no time is the right time, and that you find a way to make it work!

Worse, he has been taking a product that kills sperm count and he told me it was like the male BCP so I let him stay in AN HOUR BEFORE I OVULATED (even with spermicide, which i did use, I always get a bfp if he doesn't withdraw) and he will be SO MAD if I get a bfp this month, I am so stressed about it. Almost enough to suffer my hormone imbalance for the next 2 weeks and not take my progesterone!

He is the off and on TTCer, ttc one BD and not the next, depending on his mood. I've never seen a guy with COLDER FEET!

I guess I will see what happens,I feel pretty stressed. The fact spermacide was involved means nothing for us at all, it never works anyway. Sheesh...

XX, I am so happy you have that sticky bean.

FX to the rest of you waiting for a bfp. AFM, well, as much as I want a bfp, I dont want it this way with dh mad at me. But he did tell me a year ago it was like male bcp, but yesterday he said it was so unreliable and lots of guys get their girls pregnant on it...NOW he tells me, hours after its too late for that!

I figure when its the right time, it will happen. Period.

Right?

[SweetLily]

yes pbn, but I seriously had my sharp O pains during the afterglow, laying in bed about an HOUR after we BD which is BOY territory! I really want a girl, I have so many boys...

[Boysboys]

Oh my! I had to catch up. We have a lot of convos going on and I love it!

Welcome Sweetlily!!

Went and exchanged my replens for refresh today! How about that junk is pricey!! It will def be the first thing we drop if we get a bfn this month!haha

I picked up some pink nail polish too!lol A small part of me feels guilty swaying, do yall???!!! I was giggling to myself when I saw pink and grabbed it thinking what a nut I am!!������

[XXforhubby]

Good to hear from you SweetLily!! I've been thinking about you! I hope you do get your sticky, BFP! Have you ever found out exactly how your autoimmune issue needs to be treated? I really feel that if this can get in check then the rest will fall in line, yk?

Thanks for the congrats! We are pregnant with sweet, baby boy #3 [emoji4]! I'm over the moon, and DH says all of the right things. I'm thinking of swaying and TTCing under the radar when this little guy is 6 months. I'm nervous about having them so close together, but you know how fertility issues go! A lot would have to happen though, of course my DH doesn't want a fourth unless it's an accident (how about a planned accident on my part [emoji6]!). It's so far away that I may change my mind, but I see the way DH looks at baby and little girls. It just makes me sad he doesn't have one of his own, yk?


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[Boysboys]

Good to hear from you SweetLily!! I've been thinking about you! I hope you do get your sticky, BFP! Have you ever found out exactly how your autoimmune issue needs to be treated? I really feel that if this can get in check then the rest will fall in line, yk?

Thanks for the congrats! We are pregnant with sweet, baby boy #3 [emoji4]! I'm over the moon, and DH says all of the right things. I'm thinking of swaying and TTCing under the radar when this little guy is 6 months. I'm nervous about having them so close together, but you know how fertility issues go! A lot would have to happen though, of course my DH doesn't want a fourth unless it's an accident (how about a planned accident on my part [emoji6]!). It's so far away that I may change my mind, but I see the way DH looks at baby and little girls. It just makes me sad he doesn't have one of his own, yk?


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Congratulations on your baby boy!!!
So much fun! When I look at my boys I think to myself, "how could you not want 10 of these little guys!" So much joy and Oh how I would love another baby boy too!

I say go for #4! If I didn't have csecions I would totally do that too!haha

Congratulations again ����

[twointow83]

Morning all! This thread always jumps by a few pages during the night lol!! Twointow I didn't know propped hips is considered a boy sway tactic uh oh lol :) temp held steady this morning yay and cant wait to temp tomorrow and fx fx fx its spiked! By the time morning comes around you'll have posted your spiked temp fxfx!!

Not a major one... it is akin to deep penetration and sways boy by helping the spermies out by getting them closer to the cervix, if I recall correctly. I am having a lot of right side cramps. NOTHING like the left side cramps I had last week but noticeable. I took a second OPK today and I didn't think it was possible but it was actually darker than the first! Yes, :fingers: that we both have shifts in the morning. Do you care to share the link to your chart so I can stalk your chart? 26147

[SweetLily]

thanks boysboys!

XX, glad you are happy about the boy, I always loved my little guys. There's something special about little boys...but girls too! Go for another in 6 months, where you are old you wont regret it!

FX for your shift Two!

[Pbn3]

Twointow I'd love to put up link to my chart but I cant work out how lol! Will try again this arvy otherwise will post screenshots!!

[twointow83]

Wow, lots to reply to! It always seems to work out that this thread is booming on my busy days and slow on my sitting-at-home-with-nothing-to-do days lol.

Momamia- this occurred to me earlier but I had an appt to get to and didn't have time to post it. We won't know your actual LP *for sure* until you finish an unmedicated cycle, but it occurs to me that OPKs simply tell you that O may be on its way but only gives an idea of a span of time up to 72 hours in which you can O. Given that you shortest OPK determined LP was 12 days I am going to venture a guess that that is likely pretty close to your actual LP since your LP rarely varies by more than a day on either side (for example, on avg my LP is 12 days but I have had LPs only 11 days long and a few that were 13 days). However, Clomid puts a kink in the chain because it is known for lengthening LPs! For example, as I have already said, my usual LP is 12 days but when on clomid before my LP was 14 days. So, with that in mind, I would say you can probably expect around a 14 day LP... maybe even longer. I also didn't have time to really dig into why I said it looked good so far chart-wise, even though you haven't gotten a BFP today. You have 2 dips- 6 dpo an 9 dpo. Either could mean absolutely nothing, or it is possible that one is an implant dip. If 6 dpo was an implant dip, and assuming you are in fact preggo, I wouldn't be surprised that yesterday you thought you say something and today you saw nothing. All tests of the same brand have the same threshold at which they will definitely detect a preg, many of which are about 25. BUT each can vary in sensitivity below that threshold. So, for example you have two tests of the same brand taken the same day with a lower than threshold level of HCG. One may detect enough to show a faint line, but the other may not. If 9 DPO was an implant dip then the line you saw yesterday could very well have been an evap BUT that doesn't mean you won't get a + tomorrow or even the next day. As long as your temps stay up, you are still in good shape. A sudden crash in temps toward the end of you LP tends to be the kiss of death, so to speak, , but not always. Like I said before, a lot can happen in 3 days. For me, my temps tend to do one of two things just before AF. Either my temp will crash a full degree or more in 1 day, usually meaning AF will come that day or the next, or my temp will drop in large increments (a few 10ths of a degree) at time, usually over the course of about 3 days with AF usually showing on the 4th day. No one can predict which way it will go but so far, so good for you. BUT don't panic if you wake up tomorrow and you have a drop. Literally every single one of my preg charts have a dip, or two, between 10-13dpo (all my preg charts are on my chart homepage if you want to see for yourself. Just click on my chart thumbnail in my signature). Charting is not an exact science when it comes to predicting pregnancy before BFP. I have several charts where my temps looked amazing, sometimes even triphasic, and they were BFN cycles and every single one of my preg charts, had I not already gotten BFPs, I would have thought would have been BFN cycles based on my temps around 12 DPO. So the point of the book I just wrote is- don't give up just yet ;)

Taytum- did you ever get results?

Sweetlily- welcome and good luck!! Your hubby would drive me batty, lol! I wouldn't be able to handle it. If it were me, I'd probably sit him down... when the moment is not hot, so to speak, and tell him I couldc't TTC that way. Either we are TTC or we are not. But that is just me. I couldn't handle a flip-flopping hubby, my anxiety wouldn't tolerate it. So, you are a stronger woman than me ;)

BoysBoys- that's not nutty ;) . I wear pink nail polish on my toes, usually anyway right now it's OPI's sparkle polish, and have since we decided to sway girl... and I am not in love with the color pink except in reference to having a girl and pink dresses and such lol.

XX- congrats on your bundle of blue! Glad you are happy about it too!! I know what you mean about hubby and girl babies. Hubby loves kids in general, but they way he melts when a baby girl takes to him (fall asleep on him, smiles at him, etc.) is quite a sight. I want so badly to give him a girl of his own... even though I know she'll have him wrapped around her tiny little finger from birth... which means I'll have to be bad cop lol. With the boys he is the "big gun" he knows if I call him into the "ring" that the boys have been behaving horribly. With a girl I think I'll be on my own lol.

[TaytumJ]

That's so exciting about your darker line, two!! Everything crossed for a spike; can't wait to stalk!

No results yet. Ugh. That was one reason why I did it early, to get same day results. She might update my chart tonight though with it so I'll post if so!

Seriously though, these cramps. [emoji15] Apparently ClOmid makes you cramp like crazy too. Anyone who has taken it a cycle or two had AF like cramps mid 2WW? Aside from that no symptoms. I'm starving, but not craving anything. So that's fun!


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[twointow83]

Twointow I'd love to put up link to my chart but I cant work out how lol! Will try again this arvy otherwise will post screenshots!!

Do you use FF? If so follow these steps on a PC:
At the top of the screen (this screen... gender dreaming site) on the right hand side click "settings"

On the left hand side scroll down until you see a "settings" tab and under that click "edit signature"

In another window/tab go to FF to where you are looking at your chart and can add data to your chart. At the top of the screen, on the right'ish side look for "sharing" and click on it. A drop down menu will appear and you will need to click "get code"

Use the attached pic to decide which code you want and copy it.. ignore the HTML codes, they don't work on this board!
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With the code copied, return to the tab/window that has your "edit signature" page open.

Paste the code into your signature box and save. You are done :)

[twointow83]

That's so exciting about your darker line, two!! Everything crossed for a spike; can't wait to stalk!

No results yet. Ugh. That was one reason why I did it early, to get same day results. She might update my chart tonight though with it so I'll post if so!

Seriously though, these cramps. [emoji15] Apparently ClOmid makes you cramp like crazy too. Anyone who has taken it a cycle or two had AF like cramps mid 2WW? Aside from that no symptoms. I'm starving, but not craving anything. So that's fun!


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Thanks! Unfortunately, the last time I took clomid was over 6 years ago and I don't remember and I didn't do a great job of charting my symptoms :( So, I am no help but maybe hitme or momamia can answer?! What do the cramps feel like??

[TaytumJ]

They literally feel just like AF. Right across the middle of my uterus. Occasional right side ovary pain still, but what stands out more is the AF like cramps. I don't feel too positive about it; I've heard from several ladies that it's pretty typical of Clomid. Boo!


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