September 2013 babies!!

[divakotka]

Congrats Mum! I am so excited for you!

[fish2012]

Oh mum to 3 congrats that's fab news! Xx

[fish2012]

Wag how bigs your small sink mines v small ;-(. Seems perfect answer to stuip baby bath two splashing boys in big bath issue!

Salsa agree its down to baby I found 1to2 easier than 0to1! Hoping for another good baby ds1 had reflux and its a mare but ds2 didn't and dr said no genetic reason why future babies should have it so fx for us both!

[4Giffins]

Huge congrats Mum! I really hope I catch this blue streak!! Only a couple more weeks and Ill know!!

Salsa-I've been so curious to know how the transition from 2 to 3 goes! 1 to 2 was a lot harder then I imagined, but of course I think that mostly depends on the baby like you said! DD1 was a breeze as well and then DD2 was another story! No medical issues but very fussy and high maintenance. Im really hoping I get another easy baby and if not at least I know what to expect this time I guess!

[Wanting-a-girl]

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my sink... its a typical small bathroom sink.... i origionally bought it for the kitchen sink cause it will be a lot easier to bathe him on the main floor so i can not worry about ds3 near the stairs but i was very happy to see i can use it in my smaller sinks too... and when the baby is bigger you can put it in the bathtub to sit on

[Wanting-a-girl]

my transition from 2 kids to three was quite easy for me but my first two were 7 and 5 but ds2 autism always makes things interesting and dh deals with him cause ds2 is super attached to him... i am quite worried about the new baby coming cause ds3 is 2 and he has a crazy attachment to me...also im very very close to him and im worried about having time for him..

[Salsa]

Ladies I had my first gender dream last night! It was so vivid, and was a little baby girl - same name we are going to use, I could see her face and everything! Ive never had a gender dream before with my others (not that I can remember anyway) Im sure it only means my mind is still obsessing during the night as well as the day lol
Just wondering if anyone else has had a gender dream before they found out what they are having and was it accurate?

[divakotka]

Ladies I had my first gender dream last night! It was so vivid, and was a little baby girl - same name we are going to use, I could see her face and everything! Ive never had a gender dream before with my others (not that I can remember anyway) Im sure it only means my mind is still obsessing during the night as well as the day lol
Just wondering if anyone else has had a gender dream before they found out what they are having and was it accurate?

I had two gender dreams before finding out with this baby and both times it was a boy in the dream. :)

[Wanting-a-girl]

I had gender dreams every night and only had two girl dreams... But with ds3 I always dreamt he was a girl

[Wanting-a-girl]

Now that I know he's a boy I've been able to shop and shop and shop lmao .... DH says he will be staying single in his next life lmao

This is what I ordered today :)
Creme Brulee Pixie Sakura Bloom Baby Ring Slings :: Carry Me Away (http://www.carrymeaway.com/item_1001/Creme-Brulee-Pixie-Linen-Baby-Sling.htm)

[WantingPink]

I found the transition from 0 to 1 child very difficult. Probably because I was 30 when I had DS1 and I was use to having my free time to do what I wanted when I wanted and to get as much sleep as I wanted. It took me 2 years to adjust to the point that I wanted another baby. With DS2 it was a piece of cake!! He was such a good baby and I feel like I got to enjoy being a Mom and just loved having him. I am hoping that it will be the same way with this baby and that I don't find 3 to be crazy. I think it will be good that DS2 is now 4 years old... he has become more independent lately.

As far as gender dreams I had only a handful of dreams but my most vivid one that I can still remember in great clarity was that it was a girl:)

[DLTAG89]

I'm really hoping this little bubs will be easier than DS1 was. We were quite young when we had him, 20 and 21 and he was trouble from day 1. He had reflux till the age of 2 and was always hungry but just bought everything back up and also has jaundice when he was only a few days old so spent a few days in hospital. When DS2 was born he was a little angel compared and he fitted in so well and i'm really hoping its then same this time.

As for gender dreams too i've had LOADS about it being a girl and only 1 where he was a boy but the boy one is the one thats stuck in my mind (prob becuase its been the weirdest). I'm now feeling more and more we will be told boy at the 20 weeks scan but i'm trying to keep that little window of hope open. Only 3 weeks till i find out now :)

As i posted this my dream last night came to me. It was of scan pics (12 weeks) and the pic had a nub and it was pointing very upright so ill say 2 boy dreams now.

[Mum to three girls]

I have a yucky head cold. Combine that with pregnancy fatigue/hormones and DH is giving me a wide berth at the moment!

[4Giffins]

I have had a couple gender dreams as well..I wish I would have more LOL..since I feel like I at least get an idea of what a boy would be like, even if only in my dreams! :) Both times I dreamt about a boy, the first was soo real and right before I even got my BFP(had already concieved though). Was at my gender ultrasound and was told boy and my DH wasnt even excited! Lol..it felt very real though! Ive never put much thought into them though.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Who's next for gender u/s there only a couple left!:)

[Thorz300]

I haven't been on for a while because I've been so busy painting two different rooms the last few days. Well they are all done, and my hips are extremely sore! I may have over done it. It is hard to walk now.
I'm really struggling with dinner lately, is it just me but nothing sounds good to eat so because I think everything sounds gross, I'm really struggling to even think of meals for my family! I guess we will do tacos tonight, my kids have never had them so it probably wont go over well.......

[Mel1983]

I'm having my scan on the 28th of April , just over 2 weeks! Feeling nervous and excited! Haven't even told any family when it is keeping it a secret so I can deal with the news with only my hubby and kids! Hope time goes quickly

[4Giffins]

My scan will likely be the 2nd or 3rd of May! I havent made the appt yet, will at my doc appt next week. So im planning for one of those days depending when DH can get off from work. Am I the very last?! Lol

Thorz..your kids have never had tacos?! We love tacos in our house, so quick and easy!! Im lacking the desire to make dinner as well..but Im not sure that is pregnancy related! :)

[4Giffins]

I'm having my scan on the 28th of April , just over 2 weeks! Feeling nervous and excited! Haven't even told any family when it is keeping it a secret so I can deal with the news with only my hubby and kids! Hope time goes quickly

We have decided to keep it a secret as well! I love this idea, I hate the pressure of having to answer to everyone right away. It will be nice to just keep it to ourselves for a couple days and let it sink in...specially if it isnt our DG!

[Thorz300]

Ugh I just lugged my lazy butt and 3 little crazy fighting boys to get a few things for the tacos, and I just got home and realized I got everything except for the taco shells!!! Im just having one of those days!!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Mmmmmm tacos

[Northern_Shutterbug]

I had no gender dreams with the boys but two girl dreams with this one - hubby also had a girl dream. One week til I can confirm the gender scan - can't wait but also very nervous!

[divakotka]

I made these for dinner tonight. Pretty quick and they were delicious! Coconut Chicken Nuggets with Paleo “BBQ” Sauce : Multiply Delicious- The Food (http://www.multiplydelicious.com/thefood/2011/09/coconut-chicken-nuggets-with-paleo-bbq-sauce/)

I'm looking forward to all the upcoming scans. Northern -- I'm sure it's still a girl!

Thorz -- we'd love to see photos when you are done with the nursery! I can't believe you did all that by yourself. Don't the boys get into the paint? I know mine would and they'd make a huge mess! I hope your hips will feel better soon....

[fish2012]

Oh wag thanks for posting pics might have to get one of those oddly maybe the blue lol pink looks a bit in your face and white and newborn poo ;-)

Thorz please tell me how you paint with the boys around I can bearly Hoover without a fight or damage to property!

Cook, clean, be nice to dh & ds anything is feeling beyond me at moment!

[Girlsway]

Salsa I loved reading your story about adjusting to each of your babies. We had a similar transition, DS1 was an angel baby and when DS2 arrived we had a complete shock as he also had a reflux and it lasted till he was 1. We struggled a lot and our relationship suffered too. It's all good now and fingers crossed baby no 3 won't give us a hard time!

Mum congrats on healthy baby boy! Great news.

Northern my anatomy scan is on Thursday I hope evrything is ok too.

[Thorz300]

LOL ladies, I do not and could not paint with all 3 boys! DS1 is in afternoon Kindergarten and so he is at school while DS3 takes his nap, DS3 takes a 4 hour nap still so I am really lucky. I do all my projects and painting during this time. DS2 is the only one I have during this time, and he is really good about watching a show or playing with his puzzles (he is a puzzle wizard) while I do projects, or sometimes he will want to be by me, so I give him the ipad and he plays games next to me while I work. During DS3 nap time is the absolute ONLY time I have to be productive because when all 3 are awake and together, it is pretty chaotic!

[Girlsway]

Thorz sounds like to you organised and trained your boys perfectly! Well done, i have to think about how to organise life with three soon!

[Girlsway]

Ladies I saw pictures of your little ones but had no access to the PC. Here are my little ones I hope my 1 year old will make you smile.

[divakotka]

Super adorable Girlsway! I love seeing all the pics of our kiddos.

[fish2012]

Thorz wow 4 hour nap! That's good going!

[Honeychild]

Wow, I'm impressed with the 4 our nap too!

Very cute Girlsway!

Not much to report here. Still not in nesting mode, but realistically we don't need to do much as bubs will be in with us for the first 6 months or so anyway, and we've still got all the gear from before, and everyone with older kids giving us their cast offs.

As for dreams, I always have girl dreams, but I think that reflects my wishes not my intuition. Or I dream I'm having kittens!

[Girlsway]

5 months scan this Thursday, I can't believe the time is flying that quickly. Plus can't wait to announce the news to the wider circle of friends. Praying it's still a healthy girl.

[Mum to three girls]

Wow, I'm impressed with the 4 our nap too!

Very cute Girlsway!

Not much to report here. Still not in nesting mode, but realistically we don't need to do much as bubs will be in with us for the first 6 months or so anyway, and we've still got all the gear from before, and everyone with older kids giving us their cast offs.

As for dreams, I always have girl dreams, but I think that reflects my wishes not my intuition. Or I dream I'm having kittens!

Ditto. Not the dreams but the nesting. The baby will be in with us until night feeds stop and then at some stage (prob when he's about one) he'll move out! Im not sure what we'll do about rooms, upstairs we've four bedrooms but and DD1 and DD2 share out of choice at the moment but if they stay together and DD3 and DS share when they'll little we can have a play room. And a guest room downstairs. Hmmm.

We've got most of the baby stuff we need, most of our toys are pretty gender neutral and I've got ages to get some clothes that aren't pink or purple (I don't care but I think DH does.)

Good luck to those having scans this week. I am well but still so tired! I'm seeing my OB on tues so find out my iron levels which will be good, I'm sure thy'll be fine but it'll get DH off my back about that being why I'm tired (and not because I'm pregnant and have three small children and a part time job!).

Hope everyone else is well.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I think I have hit some nesting my house is abnormally clean lmao (not saying I'm a pig just keeping up with three boys and a lazy ass DH is very difficult for me). I usually have a nesting phase early on so I'm not surprised

[Salsa]

Aghhhh..... I have absolutely no energy!! I cant wait to get some so I can nest! I love nesting and getting everything sorted each pregnancy, but so far Im too exhausted to think about it. My thyroxine levels were a bit high so specialist has had to adjust my thyroxine meds a bit, so Im hoping this is the reason why Im sooooooooo tired and soon I'll start to pick up a bit.
We've got most things already for the baby as my 18 mth old is still in the nursery it'll stay set up for the baby. He will move into DS1 room soon and bunk with him which they are pretty excited about! So once he is moved I can fill the drawers with all my newborn clothes etc (I have a selection of pink and blue newborn outfits I buy each pregnancy - enough to get me through the first wk) then I find once the baby comes I have a quick chance to pop out and get more of the gender outfits I need. I have that many friends having babies the clothes I dont use always gets gifted!

My anatamy scan is this Wed - I sooooooooo want to find out but DH doesnt! lol oh well! Im most eagar to find out that baby is healthy in there as I havent been able to feel movements yet as placenta is anterior - bummer!

[Wanting-a-girl]

So Im not the only one with a toddler... Am I the only one that is getting jabbed and kicked in the tummy? I constantly have my hands on my stomach to protect him but it makes me a nervous wreck

[Salsa]

Yes WAG!!! I seem to be needing constant protection from my little ones!! Mostly the boys. I find bathing them a challenge, we've got a big deep bath and it takes a lot for me to lean over and reach them while making room for my bump! It's exhausting. This poor baby will come out with a few bruises I'm sure! Lol

[fish2012]

salsa i have no energy at all it's awful, i'm taking iron too ;-0

wag - yes they generally try and sit on the bump i have two toddlers! monkeys......

bump getting stupidly big now ;-S

[DLTAG89]

Yep i have toddlers too and my poor bumb always getting sat on and squished.

Took the boys swimming today and lost count of the times the boys kicked me in the stomach. I'm supposed to be getting kicks from the inside not the outside :rofl:

Feeling really stressed at the min, just started driving lessons last week and feel i cant look forward to the baby no as i've these hanging over my head every week :tissue: Sorry for the moan but drivings something i've never wanted to do and always put off.

[divakotka]

I constantly get kicked or pounced on by my boys and I always remind them to be gentle. So much so that the other day, I told my 2yo DS2 to come down the stairs and he said: "No, hafta be ca-ful, baby in my tummy." Oh he cracks me up!

[Thorz300]

Ok I am really upset and don't know what to do. This weekend I had some bleeding and BAD cramping and had to go in and get checked. Because it was a significant amount of blood they sent me off for an ultrasound. First and formost baby is fine and they think its because I have partial placenta previa, but don't believe it will be a problem, they say it should correct itself, and I believe them because the same thing happened with DS2 and it indeed corrected itself and slowly moved up. So that is the good news....Baby is FINE!! I'm so upset though because during the scan the tech asked me if I wanted her to peak between the legs. I told her sure, but that I already found out the gender a week ago. She said "according to our records you would have been 14 weeks 5 days, and you cant trust a scan that early" I never told her that they told me boy at the last scan. Anyhow, she went ahead and took a look, and I thought I saw the same "boy bits" that I saw at the first scan, they hadn't changed or grown at all which surprised me, I thought it would be even MORE obvious as it had been a week and a day later. The tech said it looked to her like swollen girl parts, and she would give a 75%-85% girl guess!!!!! WHAT????? I told her they told me boy a week earlier, and she responded, "Thats why I tell people the should NEVER get a gender scan before 16 weeks!"

I really wish I would have told her not to look!!! I am upset that I now have a glimmer of hope for a girl! I know in my heart that I cannot be that lucky as to have it actually be a girl, so instead of being happy and excited I'm MAD, not mad because it might be a girl, mad because I feel like this is an unnecessary emotional roller coaster. I'm trying my hardest to not let what she said get my hopes up, but how can I possibly not let it give me hope????

I'm going to continue with my boy nursery plans because it is going to be a pretty neutral nursery and only accents will be green so I just wont do the accents in the room until my 20 week scan next month!!! UGH, she didn't print out any pics for me because it was not a gender scan it was only to check on health of the baby!!!!

I don't know what to do or how to feel. I think its probably best to try to protect my heart and believe its a boy!

[shiningstar]

Wow Thorz, that is crazy!! I don't even know what to say. I'm glad the baby is looking healthy and I pray you find out once and for all what gender you are carrying. I can't imagine how frustrated you must be feeling. Your nursery sounds lovely and I can't wait to see pictures!

[fish2012]

Just been for scan consultant is worried baby may have brain damage off to st George's for the specialist tomorrow :-(

[Thorz300]

Oh NO fish!!!!! I'm so sorry! What makes them think that? I really hope everything turns out ok my prayers are with you!!!!!

[shiningstar]

I'm praying for your Fish!!! We had a scare like that with ds1 and everything turned out fine.

[Longingforgirl]

OMG Fish I cannot believe this! I have to ask as well - what makes them think so?? You and your girl are in my prayers. I so hope it will be some false alarm. Waiting till tomorrow seems like torture. My fingers are crossed for you... hoping for good news tomorrow. You have been through enough already...

[atomic sagebrush]

What??? Thinking of you fish!! :pray: and positive thoughts headed your way.

[fish2012]

Baby has calcification on her brain maybe due to me having a virus in which case will be ok, maybe that its from toxins from the other twin may be something else he could nt say ;-(

[fish2012]

Thank you longing for a girl I foolishly googled it but couldn't find much info on what it would mean for baby but several others with stories like yours praying for good news she's so wriggerly it just seems impossible for something to be wrong ;-(

[Bub's]

Am new on here but my due date is 6th sept hoping its a girl but thinking its a boy im happy either way but was looking forward to buying some summer dresses , hopefully will find out on friday if its pink or blue lol

shiningstar sorry to hear about the sex mess up with bubba but you'll find out soon, but if i was you id forget about what you have been told and have the thought's of you still don't know the sex of the baby but hope you get what you want

Fish so sorry to hear about the babba and I hope all goes well and that it turn's out to be nothing but good luck

[DLTAG89]

aw fish, big hugs. It sounds like you've been though a really rough time. Hope everything goes well tomorro, Ill be thinking about you x

Thorz what an emotional rollercoster, are you going to go for another scan inbetween now and your 20 week and how long is your 20 week scan off?. Big hugs to you too x

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Goodness, I don't check for 24 hours and all this happens!

Thorz - I'd be pretty ticked off too and hate being in limbo! I'd be booking another scan in a week or so just to put my mind at rest. I can't remember (baby brain sorry!) did you pay for a gender scan? If so, I'd be phoning them up and giving them hell! At the one I went to they don't like their 99% accurate reputation damaged so scan you again if there's any disagreement.

Fish - I'm not at all religious but will keep you and your girl in my thoughts and hopefully good vibes will make their way down to you! Hugs xxx

I'm back of holiday now, slightly glad to be home, but came back with a very whingy DS2 on the plane which drove me mad, then arrived to find that the company who stored my car have somehow put scratched across three panels! It looks like they've put it next to a bush for the week and its scratched all the freshly (and expensively) done polish and lifetime treatment. I'm quite laid back about it but hubby is fuming. They're saying it was there before we handed it over. So am now gearing up for a battle!

Anyway, here's a bump photo at 19+3. Baby obviously loved the sun and moved up loads. Not going to be able to hide it for the next 4 days on the school run :tissue:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8652462046_36c0d4b4c4.jpg

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz poor you, think you should call your private place an ask for a rescan so sorry after we all convinced you to go for it too!

[Thorz300]

Honestly, I don't blame the private scan place, it did look like a boy! I think it was mostly my fault for booking it so early! At this point I don't want another scan until my 20 week scan because, I just want to be absolutely certain, and at 20 weeks, I don't think they will get it wrong! Ugh I'm just going to continue on my life with the idea that I am carrying my 4th baby boy. But it is SO INCREDIBLY hard not to let this get my hopes up for a girl! My 20 week scan should be the first part of May so it shouldn't be too rough of a wait!!! I googled how often this happens and apparently mistakes are most often made during the 14th and 15th week. However, usually it is they say girl and its a boy not a boy turning out to be a girl. I am going to talk to a friend of mine that this happened to. She was told her 4th baby was a boy at 14 weeks 4 days and it turned out to be a girl.......She was hoping for a boy because she already had 3 girls so it was really hard for them to hear boy and then 5 weeks later be told girl. I am going to ask her about her experience and show her my scans to see if ours looked similar.

[fish2012]

Thorz good plan try ;-s not to think about for three weeks! Sounds a challenge! Xx

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Fish - how did your scan go?

[WantingPink]

Fish I am so sorry you are going through!! Please keep us updated. I really hope everything turns out well for you and little one.

Thorz I understand where you are coming from with the emotional roller coaster. I am sure you could call the place where you got the scan and tell them what your doctor said and see if they will get you in for a free, quick and dirty, gender scan in a week or two. Swollen girl parts should be back to normal by 18 weeks. I totally understand where you are coming from... I would not be happy if I was told two different things!! Hope everything is okay with your placenta previa also and that you don't have any more bleeding. Post pictures of the nursery!!

Are there any gender scans this week? I need something to look forward to:)

[Northern_Shutterbug]

I've got my anatomy scan (and to hopefully confirm gender) on Friday!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Wow I wouldn't be able to wait to find out thorz! You should call! One thing I learned with my current preg is that boys are pretty good at hiding their bits... I saw when he moved he looked girl and then another small movement and clearly all boy... Did the get a really good look this time?if so then maybe its a girl! :) that would be soooooo aweso


Fish I hope your appt goes well! That is very scary and a feeling I know all too well! I hope she's okay

[Wanting-a-girl]

I think ur first gender scan looked more like cord than penis for the record

[Mum to three girls]

Ok I am really upset and don't know what to do. This weekend I had some bleeding and BAD cramping and had to go in and get checked. Because it was a significant amount of blood they sent me off for an ultrasound. First and formost baby is fine and they think its because I have partial placenta previa, but don't believe it will be a problem, they say it should correct itself, and I believe them because the same thing happened with DS2 and it indeed corrected itself and slowly moved up. So that is the good news....Baby is FINE!! I'm so upset though because during the scan the tech asked me if I wanted her to peak between the legs. I told her sure, but that I already found out the gender a week ago. She said "according to our records you would have been 14 weeks 5 days, and you cant trust a scan that early" I never told her that they told me boy at the last scan. Anyhow, she went ahead and took a look, and I thought I saw the same "boy bits" that I saw at the first scan, they hadn't changed or grown at all which surprised me, I thought it would be even MORE obvious as it had been a week and a day later. The tech said it looked to her like swollen girl parts, and she would give a 75%-85% girl guess!!!!! WHAT????? I told her they told me boy a week earlier, and she responded, "Thats why I tell people the should NEVER get a gender scan before 16 weeks!"

I really wish I would have told her not to look!!! I am upset that I now have a glimmer of hope for a girl! I know in my heart that I cannot be that lucky as to have it actually be a girl, so instead of being happy and excited I'm MAD, not mad because it might be a girl, mad because I feel like this is an unnecessary emotional roller coaster. I'm trying my hardest to not let what she said get my hopes up, but how can I possibly not let it give me hope????

I'm going to continue with my boy nursery plans because it is going to be a pretty neutral nursery and only accents will be green so I just wont do the accents in the room until my 20 week scan next month!!! UGH, she didn't print out any pics for me because it was not a gender scan it was only to check on health of the baby!!!!

I don't know what to do or how to feel. I think its probably best to try to protect my heart and believe its a boy!

I think you're right to keep thinking boy except (as I've said earlier) DD3 was very swollen with a prominent nub at 14 ish weeks and OB guessed boy for a few minutes before changing her mind. It was a fun guess though and not a gender scan.

[Mum to three girls]

Fish, I'm so sorry.

[Girlsway]

Fish what a worry. I hope everything is okay.

Thorz it's good news, it more likely it's a girl now. Later the scan more probable the outcome. I bet all that crying was for nothing :-)

[Thorz300]

Thanks ladies, I just don't think I can believe it until its 100% either way, in the meantime I'll keep planning on boy. Even LOVEMY4 (pro at gender guessing) thinks my 14w5d scan looks more girl! I just can't get on board yet!

[Honeychild]

Fish, crossing everything for you, and please keep us informed. Hoping it's one of those things with a high false positive rate and all turns out to be fine.

Thorz, how frustrating! Just when you thought all the agonising was over. :( I admire you waiting til 20 weeks, I don't know if I'd have the will power! Glad to hear the bleeding is nothing troublesome.

[Thorz300]

I'm not sure i REALLY have the will power either!

[Mum to three girls]

Thorz, after seeing those pics in the USS forum I think you're having a girl.

[Longingforgirl]

Thorz, what a rollercoaster!!! You are really going to wait till 20 weeks? I would totally call. That would be sooo awsome if it's a girl now!! Of course, it is healthy to expect boy. I would try not to get my hopes up either, but honestly... how can you not...
Glad you haven't painted the nursery yet. Crossing my fingers for you!! What an emotional rollercoaster this is.

Fish, you're in my prayers and I so hope everything is going to be fine tomorrow!!!!!

It's been crazy around here since February. Everybody was getting sick, and on sunday, DS1 got bitten by a dog in the face. It looked so bad at first, but now it seems fine really. He always respected dogs in a healthy way I think, but now I am afraid he will be scared of every dog. We love dogs, DS2 ran up to this particular one and I stopped him, he at least always has to ask. You never know... this one grew up with a baby (their girl was about a year old), but the owner didn't seem to really know how to treat a dog. He held him really close with his leash. Much too close, the dog didn't have a chance. So he got scared I guess and bit Noah in the face. When I saw the anxiety in the dog's face, I was about to tell the kids to leave the dog alone, but it was too late already :sad: I also have to mention we were at a petting zoo with lots and lots of children running around, and the guy obviously had (at least) one little kid on his own as well. And they all looked ok, the dog seemed very sweet, so I really thought we were on the safe side. DS2 didn't even have to ask, the owner saw him running up to him and was very relaxed and said, it's totally ok to come because the dog grew up with little children.
Well... I do blame myself. But I honestly didn't see that coming :sad:

Do you all have a midwife? I am meeting mine for the first time later on. She will be coming and giving advice and stuff after birth. I am also having another scan today. At least I think I will have a scan at the appointment :wink: I never know if I don't pay for optional scans :wink:

Hoping everything turns out fine for you today Fish... Fortunately it does seem very realistic that it's nothing after all. But you are in my prayers and I really hope you will be coming back with great news later!! This is all so awful :sad:

Thorz, I hope you are not getting totally crazy over all this.. I know I would... so I hope you have a lot of distractions up until your next scan...

Northern, crossing my fingers for you also for your scan on Friday!

WAG, I ordered that blooming bath as well and I LOVE it!! The kids love it too, it looks like a huge sunflower (I ordered yellow). So soft :happy:

[Salsa]

Ok I am really upset and don't know what to do. This weekend I had some bleeding and BAD cramping and had to go in and get checked. Because it was a significant amount of blood they sent me off for an ultrasound. First and formost baby is fine and they think its because I have partial placenta previa, but don't believe it will be a problem, they say it should correct itself, and I believe them because the same thing happened with DS2 and it indeed corrected itself and slowly moved up. So that is the good news....Baby is FINE!! I'm so upset though because during the scan the tech asked me if I wanted her to peak between the legs. I told her sure, but that I already found out the gender a week ago. She said "according to our records you would have been 14 weeks 5 days, and you cant trust a scan that early" I never told her that they told me boy at the last scan. Anyhow, she went ahead and took a look, and I thought I saw the same "boy bits" that I saw at the first scan, they hadn't changed or grown at all which surprised me, I thought it would be even MORE obvious as it had been a week and a day later. The tech said it looked to her like swollen girl parts, and she would give a 75%-85% girl guess!!!!! WHAT????? I told her they told me boy a week earlier, and she responded, "Thats why I tell people the should NEVER get a gender scan before 16 weeks!"

I really wish I would have told her not to look!!! I am upset that I now have a glimmer of hope for a girl! I know in my heart that I cannot be that lucky as to have it actually be a girl, so instead of being happy and excited I'm MAD, not mad because it might be a girl, mad because I feel like this is an unnecessary emotional roller coaster. I'm trying my hardest to not let what she said get my hopes up, but how can I possibly not let it give me hope????

I'm going to continue with my boy nursery plans because it is going to be a pretty neutral nursery and only accents will be green so I just wont do the accents in the room until my 20 week scan next month!!! UGH, she didn't print out any pics for me because it was not a gender scan it was only to check on health of the baby!!!!

I don't know what to do or how to feel. I think its probably best to try to protect my heart and believe its a boy!

Oh Thorz!!!! You poor thing! Thats really tough to have to go through. Firstly, Im so sorry you had the bleeding and cramping - must have been scary. But so very happy to hear baby is happy and healthy in there.
I dont know what to say about the gender. I know your anatomy scan seems like forever away, and now you have this on your mind time will no doubt travel ever so slowly! I have all my fingers and toes crossed you hear girl in a few weeks, 14wks and 6 days is early. But my sister found out that early with her boy. Its such torture, this waiting game.....
I wish there was more comfort I could offer you.... thinking of you :bighug:

[Salsa]

Just been for scan consultant is worried baby may have brain damage off to st George's for the specialist tomorrow :-(

Oh Fish!!! Im so so so sorry you are going through this! What a roller coaster you're on. I have you in my thoughts hun. I pray your little girl is ok x x x

[Mum to three girls]

Fish, I hope your scan today is reassuring.

[Thorz300]

I woke up this morning not wanting to deal with this whole gender fiasco, I spent the last day and a half, obsessing over it and now I just want to move on from it. I can have my gender scan as early as 18 weeks but I think I might wait until 20 weeks because my mom will be here by then and she can come with me, otherwise I'll have to go by myself and I don't want to do that. So off to focus on the nursery then.....today I'm going to clear everything out of the room (except furniture of course, I can't do that) and paint the closet. Then the nursery will be all ready for the new carpet that is coming on MONDAY!!! I'm so excited for the new carpet wer are getting it in our entire upstairs! Oh on another note. My friend who is also due this month is finding out the sex of her baby today, I am babysitting her 2 boys while she finds out!! For her sake, I hope it is a girl but I know it might be hard for me initially if she gets her girl!

FISH I'm thinking of you today, please let us know how things go! You are in my thoughts and prayers!

[fish2012]

Hi all

Thanks for good wishes to the calcification is no longer evident! However there are two cysts on the babies brain ;-(. If my blood comes back negative for viral infection it may be Edwards syndrome if its positive it may be brain damage due to a virus ;-(. Follow up scan in three weeks to check cysts bloods should be back next week

Thank you for good wishes

[Southern Butterfly]

Hello ladies. A lot going on around here lately!

Fish- I am so sorry to hear about your recent scan. Hopefully this is something that will clear up on it's own and nothing serious. I know you must be worried sick and after everything you've already been through you don't deserve more worries! You and your baby girl are in my thoughts.

Thorz- Rollercoaster is the right word, wow! If it were me I don't think I would be able to hold out much longer for another ultrasound! I really really hope this second tech was right and this is indeed your little Macie Anne!!! In some ways your scan seems similar to mine at 15+1 but the more I look at yours I can see where it could be girly. The fact that Lovemy4 guesses girl is very promising, can't wait for you to get some answers!

I am getting worried ladies. Over the last few days I have been having TONS of contractions and they sometimes get into patterns of every 3-5 minutes. Most are just the tightening/pressure of regular BH cx but some are pretty uncomortable and radiate to my lower back. I saw my regular OB yesterday and told her but she was afraid to check me as it could further agrivate things so I'm waiting for my scan with the perinatal dr tomorrow to see if these contractions are actually doing anything or not. At my last appt at 16 weeks I was already starting to thin out some and with all this activity latey I'm afraid of what we'll see tomorrow. I really don't want to end up in the hospital especially this early:worry:

[fish2012]

Oh southern that's scary not having much luck this week are we come on someone cheer us up with some good news!

Southern praying for you and your lovely boy let us know what they say tomorrow xx

[Thorz300]

OH my!!!! Southern and FISH I am so very sorry for all these heartaches!! Take it as easy as possible and try to relax as best you can! You are right fish, we are having a rough week as a group and it is only Tuesday, we need some cheering up or good news from the scans that are still to come.

Ladies you are in my prayers!!

[fish2012]

baby's position hello like to stress myself out LOL!

my lill one's transverse at the moment worrying me a bit is that normal at this stage?! never had some many scans so never known before plus feel silly to ask drs as baby may never get to labour anyway ;-S

[Mum to three girls]

baby's position hello like to stress myself out LOL!

my lill one's transverse at the moment worrying me a bit is that normal at this stage?! never had some many scans so never known before plus feel silly to ask drs as baby may never get to labour anyway ;-S

Transverse completely normal at this stage! Still lots of time to move around. Will you need an amnio if your viral screen is normal? It must be such a stressful time for you.

Southern, how premature were your others?

My problems are comparatively mundane but my DH is feeling neglected! Not only have I no sex drive I get grouchy if he wakes me when I'm asleep and have been sleeping lots in the spare room. He hates it but I'm always like this when pregnant.

[Honeychild]

Fish, it's just been one worry after another for you recently. How stressful that they couldnt give you more concrete information. Does the fact that they're waiting three weeks indicate that it's not high risk? Still crossing everything for you. Are they giving you enough info about what's happening? As for the baby's position, my understanding is that they generally move around quite a bit up until the last month or so, and often later with subsequent babies as they have a bit more room, so I wouldn't worry about that if you can help it.

Longing, poor Noah, what an awful experience. Very glad to hear it is healing up ok, and hopefully he won't be too affected by it in the long run. :( For what it's worth though, I would have done just the same as you, a dog in a petting zoo with a small child in the family, and the owner reassuring you, of course you'd assume it was ok!!

Thorz, I'm trying very very hard not to encourage you to bump your scan up or call for a rescan at the first place! You need to do what works for you, and either way it will all work out in the long run. Fingers crossed though.

Southern, how worrysome. Thinking of you and sending 'stay put' vibes to bubs. Have you talked to your obs/midwife (sorry, I forget who is having what) about it? I've been having a lot of contractions the last week or so too, frequent strong ones at that, which is a bit surprising as I tend to run overdue if anything, so it can happen naturally even this early, but my situation is very different to yours, so my experience is probably completely irrelevant! I did read about some herbs that relax uterine contractions recently, I can try to find it again if you're interested? (I've got a naturopath friend that I regularly pump for info! :) ) but I appreciate that having had 3 premmie babies, you've probably got the routine down already! Thinking of you and sending my full term/overdue vibes. Xx

Mum23, I'd be sleeping in the spare bed too if we had one! At the moment I wake up if DH so much as breathes on me, let alone does anything as radical as rolling over! I'm trying to talk him into getting a king size, but no luck yet. I think it's either that or a spare bed though! I've spent far too much time sleeping on the couch the last 2 times!

[Salsa]

Fish and Southern, you are in my thoughts constantly. Please keep us informed as you know more info. Yes you're right, it certainly has been a stressful week for some. I have a little good news, but dont want to take away from those that are having a rough time. I had my anatomy scan today. We DID NOT find out :rolleyes: even though I tried so hard to plead my case to DH about knowing now, he really wants to wait.... bummer

Anyway, baby is all good and healthy and right on track with growth. Such a nice relief, but when she was measuring the femur I was trying sooooooo hard to look between legs but she said legs were closed! grrrrr.....
Then later on in the scan when she was looking at kidneys, she said "oh I hope you dont know what you're looking at because I know the sex" I couldnt believe it!!!!!!! I was trying sooooooooooo hard to see but nothing was hitting me in the face!!! If she's zoomed in Im sure I could have seen but she didnt!! Poop!!! To think I was sooooooooooo close to just stumbling on it myself...

Anyway, here is the potty shot whilst measuring the femur bone (legs are closed) but I thought it was worth a try seeing if any of the experts on here could see anything... I'll put it in Ultrasound forum too....
Anyway, hoping the good news of a healthy baby cheers us up a bit, regardless of its gender
Wish she hadnt of said she knew.....

THis is the pic of the femur measurment
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This is the pic of the tibia and fibula - not a typical potty shot, but interested to see what people think of the area Ive arrowed....
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Ive put the arrows in myself

[WantingPink]

Fish I hope everything turns out okay for you. Not really sure what to think of what the Drs are telling you. I hope you and your family are doing okay. Please keep us updated!!

Salsa if I had to venture a guess I would guess girl. Especially since during your scan you didn't see anything (boys are usually very obvious). Fx for you!!

[Salsa]

Thanks Wanting, I hope so!!!

[Girlsway]

Fish and Northern good luck today, I hope everything is okay.

Salsa it looks like a girl to me.

26 hrs to the anatomy scan.

[Salsa]

Good luck for your scan girlsway - I'll be stalking!!

[DLTAG89]

So sorry to hear some of you have been going though a rough time. Hope you both get good news in the coming days. Sending lots of hugs to you both x

Salsa i'm thinking a girl (i'm no expert tho) and great news that your little bubba is healthy and doing well :)

I have a little bit of good news too, i heard babys heartbeat yesterday and my midwife said he/she is doing well in there and the heartbeat was fine.

I've also not been getting much sleep, i've been suffering with really bad headaches and they keep waking me up in the night. A few days ago it stayed for 5 days, went for 3 and now its back again. Really hope its short lived this time as its no fun at all and i just want to curl up in a dark room.

[fish2012]

salsa looks hopeful to me keeping everything crossed for you

honeychild no i don't think it means they're not worried i think it just means it'll take a while if it's gonna clear up on it's own so no point in keep stressing out ;-S

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Morning girls - hope you're all well.

I've been having loads of pains today, well, a constant pain ;( it is difficult to describe - its on my right side down low, but radiates to my right side of my back and pressure pain down below and in my back side. I'm ok sat down but really hurts walking �� a friend thinks its a water infection, but even if I go to the drs they'll just take a sample and I'll have to wait for over a week for the results before they'll give anything! Doesn't seem worth the bother! Baby is still constantly kicking - she NEVER stops, and its starting to get sore.

[fish2012]

oh northern that sounds rouhg - i've had some quiet painful pains at top of bump trying to think it's just growing pains.....i hav heard 3rd preganicies can be the worst ;-S

how many hours to you see your lill lady?

[Northern_Shutterbug]

I went to see the drs and he did all the usual checks and can't figure out the cause. He pressed round my uterus and said its swollen on one side and it was incredibly tender to touch, which he was slightly worried about. He can only think that its the baby stretching and her constant kicking! I've got to go back if it gets worse.

49 hours til my next scan, but not actually thinking about it too much.

[Thorz300]

Oh Northern, I'm glad it's probably not a huge concern, but that doesn't mean the pain is any better. Sorry you are hurting.

Salsa.....sorry I can't tell one way or the other on gender!

DLTAG...ugh headaches, I had one wake me up tonight...no fun sorry!

Girlsway, I'm looking forward to hearing about your scan!! Good luck!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Fish and Southern, you are in my thoughts constantly. Please keep us informed as you know more info. Yes you're right, it certainly has been a stressful week for some. I have a little good news, but dont want to take away from those that are having a rough time. I had my anatomy scan today. We DID NOT find out :rolleyes: even though I tried so hard to plead my case to DH about knowing now, he really wants to wait.... bummer

Anyway, baby is all good and healthy and right on track with growth. Such a nice relief, but when she was measuring the femur I was trying sooooooo hard to look between legs but she said legs were closed! grrrrr.....
Then later on in the scan when she was looking at kidneys, she said "oh I hope you dont know what you're looking at because I know the sex" I couldnt believe it!!!!!!! I was trying sooooooooooo hard to see but nothing was hitting me in the face!!! If she's zoomed in Im sure I could have seen but she didnt!! Poop!!! To think I was sooooooooooo close to just stumbling on it myself...

Anyway, here is the potty shot whilst measuring the femur bone (legs are closed) but I thought it was worth a try seeing if any of the experts on here could see anything... I'll put it in Ultrasound forum too....
Anyway, hoping the good news of a healthy baby cheers us up a bit, regardless of its gender
Wish she hadnt of said she knew.....

THis is the pic of the femur measurment
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This is the pic of the tibia and fibula - not a typical potty shot, but interested to see what people think of the area Ive arrowed....
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Ive put the arrows in myself


my current boy looks just like that with his legs closed... i hope its a girl tho

[fish2012]

I went to see the drs and he did all the usual checks and can't figure out the cause. He pressed round my uterus and said its swollen on one side and it was incredibly tender to touch, which he was slightly worried about. He can only think that its the baby stretching and her constant kicking! I've got to go back if it gets worse.

49 hours til my next scan, but not actually thinking about it too much.

i just know how many hours it is LOL ;-)

oh that's sort of reasuring not much help if you're in pain thou..poor you x

[Southern Butterfly]

Thanks for all the well wishes, I will let you know after my appt this afternoon (2:30 EST). So far today everything has calmed down so that's a great sign. Mum, to answer your question I usually end up in preterm labor and in the hospital around 29 weeks but luckily never delivered that early. DS1 was 31 weeks, DS2 35 weeks and DS3 33 weeks.

Salsa, no expert here but my guess would also be girl! Glad he/she is healthy.

Northern, sorry for all the pains you're having. Hope it goes away soon and turns out to be nothing serious. Good luck at your scan as well!

Girlsway, Looking forward to your scan as well!

DLTA, glad you got to hear a healthy heartbeat. When are you having a scan? (sorry if you've already said, hard to keep up!)

Just curious, do any of our babies (besides little Lennon:wink:) have a name for sure yet?

[Salsa]

We have our names picked out - if it's a boy it's Billy Eric, (Eric after my great grandfather who died in WWII) and if its a girl Darcey Lyn (Darcey after my favorite ballerina Darcey Bussell) I used to be a professional ballet dancer, and Lyn is the name of both DH and my mothers. Both names have very special meaning to us but I've been wanting to use Darcey now for 4yrs!!

[Southern Butterfly]

Billy and Darcey are cute! We have our names somewhat narrowed down but probably won't make the final decision until we see him (as we've done with our first 2 babies, DS3 was the only one we had a name chosen before birth).

[fish2012]

Ah cute names!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Providing they don't suddenly see boy bits at the scan this girl will be Evelyn Rose or Lyla Rose, but if the do suddenly see boy bits, it'll be Dexter.

[DLTAG89]

Yeah i have a scan on the 3rd of may (only 2 weeks and 2 days) and cannot wait. I'm about 90% sure we will be having a boy though.

We also have all but 1 name picked, if we have a boy he will be Oakley Luca Thomas and if we have a girl she will be ? Lilly Jayne. We are really struggling with a girls name :worry:

We had Evelyn and Dexter on our list, great choice :D. Billy and Darcey are so cute too x

[atomic sagebrush]

We talked very seriously about naming Susannah, Oakley. I think it's super cute for a boy or a girl.

[fish2012]

Daltag that's my birthday! Hope that's a good girly omen ;-)

Oakley is very cute!

I think we're on Naomi Elizabeth grace if she makes it! Naomi cause I love it Elizabeth for my mum and grace cause it'll be down to His grace that she arrives safely. If its a surprise boy Daniel Albert! Never been so set so far ahead! Only half way thou (hopefully) so things could change!

[Wanting-a-girl]

my friend named her baby oakly... its cute on him... i personally wouldnt use it as i went to school with a guy named that and didnt like him too much...

i like dexter and thought about using it but decided not to cause of the show dexter being so big here

southern i hope your appt goes well! preterm babies are a big fear of mine even tho ive never had one... i contract constantly and get about half way dilated by 34ish weeks tho so its scary

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Dexter is a big show here, but I'd hope by the time he was old enough for it to be an issue, the show would be long gone! DS2 was almost Dexter and it would have suited him, but he's an Oscar and it also suits him - I think they're both cheeky boys names.

[Dreamofpink]

Daltag that's my birthday! Hope that's a good girly omen ;-)

Oakley is very cute!

I think we're on Naomi Elizabeth grace if she makes it! Naomi cause I love it Elizabeth for my mum and grace cause it'll be down to His grace that she arrives safely. If its a surprise boy Daniel Albert! Never been so set so far ahead! Only half way thou (hopefully) so things could change!

Snap fish! It's my birthday too! Double girly vibes :D

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[WantingPink]

I love everyone's names. They are so cute!! We are planning on naming this baby Peyton Blyth and if for some reason it is a boy then he will be Nolan. I love hearing what everyone else is naming their babies!!

[Girlsway]

Interesting names girls not very usual which I like.

We have no clue sofar. My DH and I can't usually agree till the last minute haha

Will see what the scan tomorrow reveals and I might start writing a list.

[Thorz300]

If this baby turns out to be my girl (I'm not holding my breath for a girl though) her name will be Macie Anne if its a boy it will be Tate Michael or Tate Matthew.

[shiningstar]

Love the names, everyone!! We only have a girl name we really like.. Keira Elise. I do like Rylan Jacob for a boy, but I've noticed a lot of people naming their girls Rylan. :(

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Come on southern! I keep checking back - its past 3 isn't it?

[fish2012]

southern any news hun gonna have to go to bed soon!

[Southern Butterfly]

Sorry it's been a crazy afternoon. My appt took forever then got home as soon as the older kids got home from school, spent most of the afternoon outside with them!

Baby looks great and was fiesty as always lol. The tech was very concerned when she checked my cervix because it was measuring alarmingly short, she even measured 4 times then brought in the doctor who did a transvag scan to get a better look. Luckily my cervix looked much better from that angle and not nearly as bad as it looked from the abdominal scan. I was so relieved! For now I am keeping bedrest at bay but supposed to stay off my feet as much as possible (yeah right!). I mostly enoyed watching my baby bounce around and play with his ears lol. Thanks again for the well wishes!

[Salsa]

If this baby turns out to be my girl (I'm not holding my breath for a girl though) her name will be Macie Anne if its a boy it will be Tate Michael or Tate Matthew.

Thorz my goddaughter is Macey Anne, its a gorgeous name. But I also love Tate!

[Thorz300]

Lol salsa, that is funny that its the same first AND middle name! Only spelled just a tad different!

[Thorz300]

I'm glad that things looked better from a different angle, but SOUTHERN you have to try and take it easy, I know that is easier said than done..... Sorry for the scare, I hope your bub stays in there for a long time.

[Southern Butterfly]

Oh and I love everyone's names! Shining, I definitely think of Rylan as being a boy name so I wouldn't worry. All our kids (except DS1) have more unisex names and this one probably will too. I just gravitate towards those, but I don't think of Rylan as unisex.

Our boys are Shane, River and Rowan and for this one we are so far considering Sage, Lyric, Shiloh and Gabriel. All our names are names that you either love or hate lol. Had this one been a girl she would have probably been Emery, Penelope, or Hazel. As a matter of fact I realized I've never really had a tech confirm gender, I just always saw it for myself as it was quite obvious. Today the tech asked if I wanted to see gender and I told her I already knew so she never looked. I'm 100% confident that it's a boy though!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I like shilo southern it sounds super cute

[Thorz300]

Set my scan for May 10th I'm waiting until after my mom is in town so I have her with me since DH can't be there! I don't know why, but I really don't want to do this alone. I'm such a wimp.

[Southern Butterfly]

Thanks WAG, Shiloh and Sage are my 2 faves but DH is kind of iffy about Shiloh.

Thorz, I understand! I'm glad your mother will be there. To be honest I wasn't sure about your scan pics but since both Lovemy4 AND ColdWater (u/s tech) are leaning girl... I would say your odds are pretty good!

[Girlsway]

Southern that's great news about your little one. Take it easy if you can.

Most of you are probably still asleep but my scan is in couple of hours I am so excited that I was even dreaming about it!

[DLTAG89]

Glad you got good news southern, hoping the little one gets nice and comfy in there and doesnt want to leave :hug2:

Love the names tate and shiloh, boys names seem to be so much easier. Southern both my boys have unisex names to, we have Taylor and Ashton, if this one is a boy a think Oakley is just perfect and goes so well. DH has now decided is we have a girl he loves the name Sydney but i'm not so sure :think:

Good luck too with your scan girlsway, looking forward to your update :D

[Mum to three girls]

I love all the names too! Our girls have slightly old fashioned so slightly quirky names but nothing too adventurous. We don't have a boy's name yet, or even a short list really. Maybe we'll wait until he's born!

Southern, I agree, rest whenever you can! I know how hard it must be (my two working days are my rest days) but your cramps and short ish cervix sound a bit scary. Could you get a part time baby sitter? Or a cleaner for the duration of the pregnancy?

Thorz, your scan is the same day as mine (the fact I'm on the other side of the world notwithstanding). If you hear girl (and I think you will) you'll be "that lady". You know, like the cousin's friend's sister that everyone seems to know that was told "boy" but had a girl.

Good luck for your scan, Girlsway, hope she's well and healthy!

DLTAG, when is your scan? There aren't many of us left who don't know what we're having.

[Girlsway]

Ladies, I had the scan and it's still a heathy girl. Finally we can start choosing names and preparing the nursery.

Good luck to ladies who have scan this week! I will be cheering you.

[Thorz300]

Good luck girlsway!! Excited to hear how it goes!!

I had a VERY real dream about this baby! In my dream, I went to the 20 week scan and it was 100% a BOY then my dream jumped to me playing and talking to a super chunky bald headed (I've never had a bald baby) smiley baby boy! He was so cute and fat and happy, he was probably about 3 months old in my dream. I don't know if dreams mean anything, but this baby sure had my heart in this very real dream. I wil be 100% ok if this baby is a boy!!

[fish2012]

Girls way yeahy for good news!

Daltag's scan 3 may! My birthday and someone else's was it yours longing?

[shiningstar]

Yay Girlsway, glad you got confirmation!! Thorz, that sounds like such a nice dream. I keep praying that I'll have a dream about this baby but so far I haven't had anything that really makes sense. I had a dream the other day that I was carrying 2 kids in a pool: My youngest ds and a little girl but they were the same age. I'll know soon enough.. My ultrasound is scheduled for April 24th. Eek!!! We are having them put the results in an envelope. Not sure if I'll be able to open it. lol! I'm thinking about going out to dinner that night as a family and having my oldest read it to us. :)

[DLTAG89]

Yeah 3rd of may and i really cannot wait. It still feels like a life time away and loving that its on 2 birthdays too :D I'm pretty sure we will be having a boy though but only 2 weeks and 1 day till i find out.

Great news on your little girl Girlsway :DD:

That sounds like a lovely dream thorz, i've had some really vivid dreams about the baby but that are always to weird to be nice lol

[Thorz300]

Yay girlsway! Congrats!!
So exciting!

[Dreamofpink]

Girls way yeahy for good news!

Daltag's scan 3 may! My birthday and someone else's was it yours longing?

I'm board crashing here, but it was me :D

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[Southern Butterfly]

Congrats Girlsway!!! Now you can relax and start planning for your baby girl! Can't wait to hear your names:D

[Southern Butterfly]

Southern, I agree, rest whenever you can! I know how hard it must be (my two working days are my rest days) but your cramps and short ish cervix sound a bit scary. Could you get a part time baby sitter? Or a cleaner for the duration of the pregnancy?

I only have DS3 home during the day while the older 2 are at school so that makes it a little easier to put my feet up when needed. I'm also very fortunate to have amazing neighbors who have offered to help out (one of them who is also a close friend would come clean my house while I was on bedrest with DS3). My 2 eldest are also great helps when they're home, they are both very responsible and such sweethearts when it comes to helping their momma out!

Today is DS2's birthday. I'm so happy I get to be involved with everything because when I was pg with DS3 I was in the hospital on his birthday and all I did was cry for missing out. He wants to go rollerskating tonight and I'm so looking foward to it! Am I nuts for wanting to strap on some skates??? I know DH probably won't let me but I LOVE skating so it will be hard to resist lol.

[fish2012]

Southern wow roller skating probably shouldn't but sounds like great fun!

[4Giffins]

Love hearing everyone's names!! We havent spoke a word about names yet since its so hard for us to agree on anything we wait until we know what it is before we start debating about it! We like uncommon names and DH is so difficult when chosing..if his high school classmates, cousins, dog was named a variation of a name I like its off the list! Im getting stressed just thinking about it! Lol. Anyways, our girls are Fallan and Haven and the boy name I am set on is....Harland! I havent told a soal my boy name! Hope its not bad luck!! No idea on a girls name though!

Will have my ultrasound in the next couple weeks, havent got the appt scheduled yet..hopefully will do that today at my doc appt!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Hubby is now coming round to Evelyn Rose but I'm now getting worried that people will keep mispronouncing it; it can be pronounced;

Ev-A-Lyn
Ev-E-Lyn
Eve-Lyn
and I've even heard people pronounce it Eve-A-Lyn!

I want it pronounced Ev-A-Lyn. Do you think we could spell it Evalyn? Would that be weird?

[Southern Butterfly]

Hubby is now coming round to Evelyn Rose but I'm now getting worried that people will keep mispronouncing it; it can be pronounced;

Ev-A-Lyn
Ev-E-Lyn
Eve-Lyn
and I've even heard people pronounce it Eve-A-Lyn!

I want it pronounced Ev-A-Lyn. Do you think we could spell it Evalyn? Would that be weird?

I like your original spelling of "Evelyn". It isn't an unusual name or spelling so I don't think it will get mispronounced.

On another side note... allergies and pregnancy don't mix! I'm sneezing like crazy and keep peeing! Have to change my undies several times a day:oops:

[Longingforgirl]

Girls way yeahy for good news!

Daltag's scan 3 may! My birthday and someone else's was it yours longing?

Just a coincidence, but also DS1 (Noah's) birthday :happy:

Daltag, good luck to you!!! It definately is a good day for a scan :wink:

I love all the names you have already picked out!!!

I would still spell it "Evelyn". Never heard of the other pronounciations to be honest. I just know it Ev-A-Lyn. I wouldn't worry that much. Beautiful name though :happy:

Names here are different though... very different.. for a boy we would have picked Fabian or Carl I think. For a girl I have too many names I like :wink: I like Mona and this apparently is the only name DH cannot veto :wink: He keeps bringing up people or dogs with the same names all the time and it is really annoying. On the other hand, I didn't want to name the baby like his ex-girlfriend Anna either, lol.

I might need some crossed fingers as well.. I had a scan on tuesday and the tech was very quiet when he was looking at the heart of the baby. After a few minutes what felt like days, he said he is not sure, but the baby might be having problems with its heart. Now I have to get it checked again in a clinic on Monday. Weird, how gender suddenly didn't matter anymore. I just wanted him to confirm it's a girl, but he didn't even look. And I didn't care either.

Southern, I just also read about what is happening to you. I really hope you can get a lot of help to make sure your baby will still be staying inside for many more weeks..!! Great that you have such helpful neighbours!! I hope you can allow their help and get the rest you need!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Longing, I'm really sorry to hear that, and I keep you in my thoughts and keep everything crossed that it turns out ok.

[fish2012]

Oh longing I'm so so sorry to hear this ;-( fx they are being over cautious I know that silence been throu it 3 times now and it is awful so sorry praying everything will be okay. Did rest of baby look okay specialist told me on Tuesday if just one area of concern chances of it fixing pre birth much better I know that's a crumb of comfort please keep us updated. Yes your righty nightmare twin boys is now a dream ;-s

[fish2012]

Hubby is now coming round to Evelyn Rose but I'm now getting worried that people will keep mispronouncing it; it can be pronounced;

Ev-A-Lyn
Ev-E-Lyn
Eve-Lyn
and I've even heard people pronounce it Eve-A-Lyn!

I want it pronounced Ev-A-Lyn. Do you think we could spell it Evalyn? Would that be weird?

Hey Hun maybe it's a north south thing I'd say it the way you don't like automatically ;-( I'd consider the alternative spelling (I prefer that pronunciation it's just not what I'd say) I don't think it's odd although she may spend her life saying that's with an a ;-)

However I am a bit dyslexic so could be that ;-)

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Hubby has said he'd give up on Lyla if we spell it Evelyn. I still prefer Evalyn, but prefer Evelyn to Lyla :think:

[fish2012]

Northern just go register the birth on your own ;-)

[Tree]

Hi all

Thanks for good wishes to the calcification is no longer evident! However there are two cysts on the babies brain ;-(. If my blood comes back negative for viral infection it may be Edwards syndrome if its positive it may be brain damage due to a virus ;-(. Follow up scan in three weeks to check cysts bloods should be back next week

Thank you for good wishes

Fish have you googled cysts on the brain? In the absence of any other markers its suggested that cysts are relatively common and should disappear on their own within a few weeks. There is much debate apparently over whether cysts on the brain should be considered at all due to the large amount of unnecessary stress it causes parents. Obviously I don't know the full story but when I read your post I was sure I'd heard about something similar before so I looked it up.
I hope that they are harmless and go away!!

[Mum2boys]

Hi girls sorry I haven't been on for a while. Life is hectic and I was obsessing(nubsessing) to much I had to keep off for a while to keep myself sane.

Sorry to hear about the possible health scares for some of your babies, fx that you all have gorgeous healthy bubba in sept xx

Congrats to all that have found out the genders of their babies and sorry to Thorz for your roller coaster ride with regards to gender :( hopefully you will know either way soon xx

I had my scan yesterday and I am lucky enough to be carrying a little girl :)

I hope to be able to come on a bit more now but still will never be able to keep up with you all...

[Thorz300]

Im so happy for you Mum!!!! Congrats!

[WantingPink]

Congrats on your girl Mum2boys on your girl!!

[Southern Butterfly]

Mum2boys- Congratulations to you!!!!:celebrate: Glad you checked back in with us!

[Southern Butterfly]

Longing- You're in my thoughts as well! I'm so sorry for the scare, hoping you get better news at your next scan!

[Thorz300]

So sorry longing! I'm really hoping everything looks ok on Monday! Fxfx

[Longingforgirl]

Thank you all!! I am a lot calmer today. I heard that 90% of the time, those kind of problems disappear by themselves. So I am hoping for that, staying positive.

Fish, I think it's the same with the cysts in the brain. Also, my friend's baby had that too, and they also found out that it is quite normal and will disappear within a few weeks. That's what they did and her little baby is a very healthy 3 year old girl now. So what is up next, when will it get checked again? I am so glad my scan got moved up a bit. Although everything is going to be ok.. everything HAS to be ok :wink: For both of us!!

Mum2Boys, congratulations on your girl!!!! So exciting!

Northern, names are sooo hard to agree on sometimes.. I know :wink: I think you will be happy with both Evelyn or Evalyn. Maybe it really is a North South thing? Have you heard all of those pronounciations in your area?

[Salsa]

Congrats Mum!!! Wonderful news, and makes me want to go find out once and for all what Im having even though Ive had my anatomy scan - I can pop into work at anytime and the girls can confirm for me.... Im thinking Im def not going to last much longer before I give in!

Longing, Im so sorry for the worry you must be going through.... I have everything crossed you hear good news at your next scan. You are in my thoughts x x

[Northern_Shutterbug]

I didn't think I'd be writing this, but I knew things were too good to be true, we'd sold our old house, hubby was sailing through an interview process for a perfect job, and we were finally getting our little girl - I just knew something would topple, everything was too right. Heck, I even jinxed myself! Every pregnancy I've been careful not to get too carried away, and not to buy things too early, what could I expect! I bought bundles of clothes, we'd chosen a name, I imagined my life with a daughter...more fool me.

Today we saw our little girl, the little one that has been kicking me non-stop for the last two weeks. She was hiding her face and had her hands over her head. We saw her stretching her legs and the bright white spine. The sonographer took the measurements and kept complaining she was in an awkward position. Then I asked the fatal question "is she ok?".

There were concerns we were told. Her head was swollen, and the sonographer couldn't look at her heart properly because of the awkward position. We were told to go get a drink and hopefully baby would move.

Although, when we returned, we weren't sent back to the scan room, we were ushered into an office. The head midwife sat us down, we weren't getting another ultrasound.

Our little girl, Evelyn Rose, has an enlarged head, fluid round her tummy, and something is showing on her bladder and kidneys. The four chambers of the heart couldn't be seen clearly either. They think it might be Edwards Syndrome or something similar. There was no glimmer of hope that the midwife gave, no sign that this could just be 'one of those things' that might resolve itself. She handed me tissues and said she was sorry.

I am booked in for a scan by the consultant on Tuesday, and they'll also do an amnio, but I knew things were too good to be true, I knew for years deep down that I couldn't have girls, now once again in my life someone is taking great enjoyment in snatching that dream away from me.

We always said that we couldn't cope with a disabled child, we personally don't have the strength, and I don't have the mental strength to deal with it.

Most babies with Edwards Syndrome aren't born living, if they are, then life expectancy is 5-15 days.

I can't face that, I really can't. If the results come back with anything but normal that I can't continue this pregnancy. Yes, I'm weak and I'm sorry if it upsets anyone, but it would break my heart beyond repair.

[True Blue]

I am so very, very sorry Northern :( my heart is going out to you. There is nothing I can say :( I will have you and your baby girl in my thoughts and prayers xx

[WantingPink]

Northern I am so sorry you are going through this. I really hope your amnio results come back normal. If they don't I know you will choose what is best for your family and I don't think you should feel bad for that. I don't think I could go though that or have my kids go through that so I completely understand with whatever decision you make. I will be thinking of you and please keep us updated!!

[Girlsway]

So sorry Northern, that's so upsetting. Let's hope there is a chance everything will be okay.

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Thank you, but from research, even if it was just the swollen brain then she would be severely brain damaged.

[Charlee]

Northern - Sorry to board crash but I couldn't read and run. I am SO sorry you are facing this devastating news. Having gone through so many losses myself I know exactly how you feel. I want you to know that whatever decision you make will be the right one for you and your family. A loss like this will undoubtely change your lives forever, but I want you to know that it WILL get easier with time. The pain will never fully go away, but you will learn to cope with the loss. When I lost our first son (at 32 weeks) I thought my heart would never heal... but it did, slowly. I just want to give you a glimmer of hope that your life will return.

Even though we have never really spoken, I will be keeping you and your family in my thoughts today. :hugs: from California.

P.S. I highly encourage to seek all the specialists advice you can before making your decision. Also, I'm sure there are support groups affiliated with your local hospital. They will be a valuable resource to you during this time. If you need any info, please don't hesitate to msg me.

[shiningstar]

Northern, I'm so, so sorry. :( I'm praying with all my heart that the results come back normal. I'm hoping they are wrong about her brain too. With my first son we were told a part of his brain was too small. A follow-up ultrasound revealed it was the right size. Just know that we are here for you no matter what & I'm sending a lot of prayers your way.

[fish2012]

I didn't think I'd be writing this, but I knew things were too good to be true, we'd sold our old house, hubby was sailing through an interview process for a perfect job, and we were finally getting our little girl - I just knew something would topple, everything was too right. Heck, I even jinxed myself! Every pregnancy I've been careful not to get too carried away, and not to buy things too early, what could I expect! I bought bundles of clothes, we'd chosen a name, I imagined my life with a daughter...more fool me.

Today we saw our little girl, the little one that has been kicking me non-stop for the last two weeks. She was hiding her face and had her hands over her head. We saw her stretching her legs and the bright white spine. The sonographer took the measurements and kept complaining she was in an awkward position. Then I asked the fatal question "is she ok?".

There were concerns we were told. Her head was swollen, and the sonographer couldn't look at her heart properly because of the awkward position. We were told to go get a drink and hopefully baby would move.

Although, when we returned, we weren't sent back to the scan room, we were ushered into an office. The head midwife sat us down, we weren't getting another ultrasound.

Our little girl, Evelyn Rose, has an enlarged head, fluid round her tummy, and something is showing on her bladder and kidneys. The four chambers of the heart couldn't be seen clearly either. They think it might be Edwards Syndrome or something similar. There was no glimmer of hope that the midwife gave, no sign that this could just be 'one of those things' that might resolve itself. She handed me tissues and said she was sorry.

I am booked in for a scan by the consultant on Tuesday, and they'll also do an amnio, but I knew things were too good to be true, I knew for years deep down that I couldn't have girls, now once again in my life someone is taking great enjoyment in snatching that dream away from me.

We always said that we couldn't cope with a disabled child, we personally don't have the strength, and I don't have the mental strength to deal with it.

Most babies with Edwards Syndrome aren't born living, if they are, then life expectancy is 5-15 days.

I can't face that, I really can't. If the results come back with anything but normal that I can't continue this pregnancy. Yes, I'm weak and I'm sorry if it upsets anyone, but it would break my heart beyond repair.

Omg northern Edwards is one of the things our lill one may have. Don't make a decision about what you may do until you know the facts. One reason I'm cautious about sharing our lill girls possible condition is one of the things we may have to consider is termination and I know like you I could nt cope and wouldn't want to burden our boys after we re gone I am so sorry You're in this position too

I know we must be along way apart but pm me if you wanna try and meet up I will pray for you if that's okay.

Darling so so so sorry xx

[fish2012]

Ps northern I was told life expectancy up to a year if she made it to birth, can you get a second opinion? We were referred from our local hospital to London is there an option like that?

Fx for the amino how quickly do they get results?

Totally emphasise re kicking its hard to believe anything is wrong isn't it xxc

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh God I'm so so sorry to read this. I don't even have the words to say but I do want to reassure you that this does not mean you cannot carry girls. These are horrible fluke things that happen just randomly. I am praying with all my heart and soul for good news.

[DLTAG89]

Northern all i can say is i'm so so sorry to hear your news. I really hope your results come back normal. Thinking of you and your family. Big hugs x

[divakotka]

I hadn't been on here in a few days and just saw your post Northern. I am so so sorry for the terrible scare! But I a praying that it was just that, a scare, and that the next few tests will reveal that your little one is okay. Ultrasounds can be quite off in their measurements, especially if the baby isn't in a good position. Keep your head up!

Fish -- my friend's baby boy had cysts on his brain throughout the pregnancy and they went away towards the end. He is totally fine! My friend was told that this is actually quite common and usually not a concern, if there are no other markers.

[Thorz300]

Oh my NORTHERN, like everyone else, I do not know or have the right words to say, I know I cannot give you the comfort you so much need and deserve! We are here for you and will support you, as best as forum buddies can. I pray that things turn out ok!

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm sorry Northern. Did you have the NT scan and bloods? Edwards is tested for then if you did.

[Tree]

Northen, my heart is absolutely broken for you! I am so so deeply sorry. Lets hold on to that glimmer of hope... Sending biggest hugs! X

[Mum to three girls]

Northern, I'm so sorry. Sometimes life is just very unfair. Make sure you gather your real life support around you while waiting for test results, specialist review etc.

[Mel1983]

Thinking of you northern and fish! Really do pray everything is ok! My heart goes out to you during this hard time.

[Northern_Shutterbug]

I'm sorry Northern. Did you have the NT scan and bloods? Edwards is tested for then if you did.

We did and my results were something like 1:7000, but they're now saying that Edwards and others aren't tested for, just down, which confused me.

From endless researching between panic attacks and tears, I honestly think that its happened because of an infection, rather than a genetic problem. She has fluid round her abdomen as well as fluid on both sides of her brain, which can suggest an infection from toxoplasmosis - and where does that come from? Animal droppings! And who has to clean up after the dog she already hates? Me! I'm going to ask them on Tuesday to test for that, and if that comes back positive the dog is gone.

But that still won't do anything. Our little girl is likely to have severe brain damage, and we can't cope with that

[fish2012]

I'm sorry Northern. Did you have the NT scan and bloods? Edwards is tested for then if you did.

In the uk they only to downs blood test as standard, Edwards is only an amid/Cvs scan I think so at this stage it's just amino

[fish2012]

We did and my results were something like 1:7000, but they're now saying that Edwards and others aren't tested for, just down, which confused me.

From endless researching between panic attacks and tears, I honestly think that its happened because of an infection, rather than a genetic problem. She has fluid round her abdomen as well as fluid on both sides of her brain, which can suggest an infection from toxoplasmosis - and where does that come from? Animal droppings! And who has to clean up after the dog she already hates? Me! I'm going to ask them on Tuesday to test for that, and if that comes back positive the dog is gone.

But that still won't do anything. Our little girl is likely to have severe brain damage, and we can't cope with that

From the googling I've done sounds plausible plus if it was genetic you'd think they spot it at 16wk gender scan?! Mind you they didn't spot any if our lill ladies problems then either. Oh Hun everything crossed for results of amino at best at least you'll know what you're dealing with xx

[Girlsway]

In the uk they only to downs blood test as standard, Edwards is only an amid/Cvs scan I think so at this stage it's just amino

Now it's also a Harmony test, which checks for trisomy 21(Downs), 18(Edwards) and 13 (Patau syndrome) by taking maternal blood from 10 weeks. I had it done as part of free trials. I can't describe how much it put my mind at peace.

[Mum to three girls]

We did and my results were something like 1:7000, but they're now saying that Edwards and others aren't tested for, just down, which confused me.

From endless researching between panic attacks and tears, I honestly think that its happened because of an infection, rather than a genetic problem. She has fluid round her abdomen as well as fluid on both sides of her brain, which can suggest an infection from toxoplasmosis - and where does that come from? Animal droppings! And who has to clean up after the dog she already hates? Me! I'm going to ask them on Tuesday to test for that, and if that comes back positive the dog is gone.

But that still won't do anything. Our little girl is likely to have severe brain damage, and we can't cope with that

There could well have been abnormal markers in the NT scan though, although sometimes they're subtle and only obvious in retrospect. I'm sure the specialist will want to review that scan as well.

I always thought that the people scanning for gender weren't "proper" techs? Just people trained in that particular aspect of scanning.

Make sure you make a list of questions to ask the specialist.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Omg I'm so sorry! I don't have words to say :( please keep us updated

[4Giffins]

Northern, my heart breaks for you! I will hold out hope for your little princess and pray that you hear good results from your testing! Life is just so unfair and as you said you have to make whatever decision is right for you and your family!

My prayers to Fish as well! Stay strong ladies and keep us updated! We are all cheering for and supporting you!!

[Southern Butterfly]

Wow, when it rains it pours around here, doesn't it?!? Northern, I wish there was someting I could say that would ease your worries, but I know there isn't. I just want you to know you and your little Evelyn have positive thoughts and prayers coming to you from all around the world. I can't even imagine what you're going through now and all I can do is hope along with everyone else that you get better results from your amnio. Try not to loose all hope yet:HH:

[Salsa]

OH Northern, this is not what I wanted to wake up to. My heart breaks for you and your husband. I know Im on the other side of the world, but if I could give you a hug I would do so in an instant. I know all of our words of concern and support dont take the pain away - I wish with all I have that it can. As some of the other ladies have said, gather all your info before making any decisions - but what ever you decide you know you have all of our support 100%. We do not judge here, we are a wonderful support group, and we have your best interests at heart.
Life is just so damn unfair sometimes you just want to scream at the universe!! Im sitting here not wanting to sign off and I just want to keep talking to you. But know you are in my thoughts constantly.
What a horrid week this forum is having.
I pray further testing reveals something more positive.
So very very sorry x x x x x

[nuthinbutpink]

Toxoplasmosis is from cats or your touching raw meat but not dogs. Even the raw meat thing just doesn't happen.

Here, my NT bloodwork was for 13,18 and 21- the 3 most likely chromosome defects that can produce a live baby. Most places test all 3. The nuchal fold should have shown something off at the NT scan. Something should have presented at your NT scan IF this baby has Edwards. It should just appear at 20 weeks. I pray all is well or it is something that can be resolved in some way.

[Longingforgirl]

OMG what is happening here. Northern, I am so so so deeply sorry! I just read what happened and I am speechless. I so hope it will somehow all turn out to be ok!! We have also said that we couldn't deal with (another) disabled child. I can totally understand that.
I am crossing my fingers for you and hoping and praying for you and your little girl!! I don't know if you have already said when you will be getting the results from the amnio. I just really hope you will have them very very soon afterwards.
You are in my thoughts and prayers. :LotsofLove:

[Longingforgirl]

Thank you, but from research, even if it was just the swollen brain then she would be severely brain damaged.

In what way is it "swollen"? DS1 has a huge head, really very very huge. This is (among other things) one of the reasons why we had been running from one specialist to the next one. Unfortunately, his head is still unusually large and has a strange shape. I so hope that it is somehow going to be ok. I cannot believe what is happening here.. the same with Fish :sad: I am so so sorry for what you have to be going through right now. :sad:

[Navywife620]

Lurking... I just want to say do NOT give up Hope Northern. I am not sure if you have any kind of faith but I do believe God can do miracles. I have a friend who was pregnant with a baby girl, they found markers on her daughter in her ultrasound. They did blood work and it came back and it came back that her daughter had trisomy 13 is doctor basically told her that the baby wouldn't life long past birth. Well we all prayed for God to heal her. She went back for a 2nd ultrasound and the baby had no markers, they could not believe it the US tech was wondering why they were even there.The doctor said this isn't the same baby! They could not believe it. They then did an amino, and everything came back perfect!!! She finally had her baby girl and she is perfect and healthy! Praying for you and your baby girl!

[ELP]

Ladies I am so sorry also for whats happening with your beautiful little ones atm, I truly hope that they all are born safe and sound for you all xxxx

[Northern_Shutterbug]

This little girl has bilateral ventriculomegaly, and its severe - 17.7mm. Anything over 10mm is cause for concern, and as you can see, its almost double.

I've read miracles of children that have had moderate ventriculomegaly and they've been fine, but these are isolated versions, where there are no other problems, such as her heart abnormalities and the fluid around her abdomen. I've read no good stories of a child with a severe case, only the heartbreaking stories of women having to make the heartbreaking decision to end their babies lives.

I keep going through stages of denial thinking it must all be a mistake, but deep down I know this is it. If the measurements of her ventricles are the same or worse on Tuesday I'm not even going to bother with the amnio as prognosis from just that is awful, regardless of the other problems. I'd rather go through the pain sooner and ask them to do an autopsy after, rather than having the wait for the results.

I really wanted lots of glasses of wine tonight, I'm not a drinker but I want to drown my sorrows, I want the pain to be dulled, but as I stood in front of our liquor cabinet I couldn't bring myself to do it, I broke down.

I don't want to be around my boys and I don't want to have to deal with my husband's grief as well as my own, I don't know how to. He doesn't think he could cope with seeing her if I go through the labour to end this pregnancy, but I am worried about general anesthetic and something going wrong which would result in no more chance of having children.

I'm sorry to be so depressing, I'm just really struggling and I don't feel like I can talk to hubby about it.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I know. Itching I can say will comfort you in any way :( I honestly can't imagine the pain your feeling...

I do understand you making the decision of terminating cause maybe prolonging it might seem more painful

Months ago I found a woman's blog and cried like I've havnt cried in sooo long. 2012 September (http://proverbs31girl.com/?m=201209)
You might have to go a bit further back then I have it to get the full story... Please read it! After reading it.. It made me wonder wow this woman is amazing for what she has been through they are such a strong unit... And then made me wonder if this was me what would I actually do obvious I will never know unless I am I. This situation... But all the joy that this little girl brought to this family for just a short Time is amazing

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm so sorry. Definitely see a specialist and get all the facts. We are here to support you.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Itching is supposed to be nothing lol my auto correct has been crazy lately

[fish2012]

Oh northern this is so bad such sad news so sorry for you and your family, the hospital can offer a trained midwife councillor to talk to please call and find out if your hospital do the same

My only thought about waiting for an amino is at least you will know black and white and never in the future think but maybe.......iykwim?

So sorry you can't talk to dh about it at moment it's not your fault your issue or anything you should feel responsible for its a joint situation and joint sadness try and be open with him as possible I'm sure that's what he wants xxxx

[Mum to three girls]

Northern, you're right, you can't really be your husband's support person although i agree with Fish that being able to talk to him will be helpful. Do you have family that could help? Both for emotional and practical support.

After the specialist appointment you'll have access to grief and maybe genetic counselling. I agree that nothing will make any of this better but maybe talking to someone independent and knowledgable may make the process a bit easier.

This must be one of the hardest things ever, I feel so sorry that you and your husband are going through this.

[XXdreaming]

I don't judge you, my pregnancies are terrible and to go through it to the end knowing the baby wouldn't survive anyways I couldn't do it, I couldn't mourn for 20 weeks while i carried him/her and then start all over mourning when I delivered , I would rather go now so the healing process can start now, my heart cries with you, I would take whatever help or counseling they offer, if they don't then I would find some, this is something you need help through and dh can't help you because he is hurting too, I am so sorry this is happening to you, it's not fair, it shouldn't happen to anyone :hugs:

[True Blue]

Northern we are all here for you to listen and support you any way we can :( you are never far from my thoughts. I'm so sorry you are going through this.

Fish I have you and your little girl in my thoughts too and pray for the best outcome possible.

[fish2012]

Northern my next scan is Tuesday too hoping and praying for two miracles xx

[Salsa]

Northern and Fish, I pray Tues brings some better news for you both. You are both in my thoughts constantly.

Northern, we are always here to listen, and offer whatever support we can. But the other ladies are right, seek counselling on a professional level also. That doesnt mean to stop talking to us - we want to offer you support any which way we can. And if it feels right to tell us your thoughts that you just dont have the strength to share with DH we will always be here to listen. But keeping those communication lines open with DH will help both your healing processes in the long run. But understand this takes time, and you must just do everything in your own time. I think I'd be the same as you, not wanting to wait for the amnio, however, just make sure you dont decide on something that later down the track you wished you waited a bit longer to know. But I cant imagine how difficult it must be as the days go on and you feel her move inside you.
I wish I could offer you strength to get through this. But know that you will get through this in time.
Thinking of you x x x

[Longingforgirl]

Northern, you have been in my thoughts all night since I read about this yesterday. I am so immensly sorry and I still cannot find any words. I am still praying for a miracle for tuesday and still holding out hope for you.
I do understand though how you feel this is it. I really hope you can get a very good counsellor and the help that you and your DH need to go through this time. I hope you both will also find a way to lean on each other and mourn together, feeling someone is always beside you. This is so tragic, I know there are no words of comfort for this difficult situation. I can only imagine how you are feeling and it makes me cry. Nobody should have to go through this, I am so so sorry you have to. A friend of DH went through almost the same. The baby had Edwards Syndrome and they decided to go through the rest of the pregnancy. That must have been so hard. The baby lived for 10 days if I remember this correctly. I cannot imagine the pain the must have been feeling. And I agree with the others, feeling this little girl inside you every day, going through the rest of the pregnancy would make it so much harder. I would make the very same decision as you.

I am sorry I am not much of a help. We are all here for you if you need emotional support. I wish we could help you in any other way as well. I feel so helpless and just wish I could make it all undone. I am so deeply sorry.

Fish, I am praying for you too!!! I hope you will have good news on Tuesday.
Unbelievable what you both are going through :sad: How are you doing anyways?

I am so sorry :sad:

[ladylaura1990]

Hi Ladies hope im ok to join. Im due 18.9 and very excited for my 20 week scan in 2wk+2. My DD was 18 days early so wondering if I go all the way this time.

[ladylaura1990]

Just reading through last few days of posts, im new and just want to send my love to Northern & Fish & anyone else with the worries you are going through, cant imagine how you must be feeling. Lifes cruel :(

[Wanting-a-girl]

Welcome to the group :) do you know what your having? I had my first 3 weeks early and my second was a week late :s my third I was induced at 39 I'm hoping to have this one 2 weeks early since my babies are BiG

[5boysandcounting]

Northern, I am so sorry you are going through this. I can only imagine how you must be feeling. I'm preying you hear some good news on Tuesday. I'm thinking of you.

Fish. I hope everything goes well at your next scan. It must be such a worrying time.

Just wanted you both to know you have been in my thoughts since reading this and I'm sending you lots of love and hugs.

[Mum to three girls]

Longing, good luck for your baby's cardiac scan today.

[Salsa]

Welcome ladylaura, did u go for an early gender scan? Or waiting until anatomy scan? Did you sway? I'm sure you'll love our group-some are going through a very tough time right now which pulls at all our heart strings. We've become a very close group, but really looking forward to getting to know you over next 20 odd weeks x x

[ladylaura1990]

Hi all, thank you for the warm welcomes, I am waiting until 20 week anatomy scan to find out sex, although im for certain this baby is another DD. I have 1 DD already and would be happy to be blessed with another healthy child. I shall let you all know the gender when we find out :) , we didnt sway either.

[DLTAG89]

Fish and northern, thinking of you both at the min. Really hoping you both get some good news on tuesday.

Welcome ladylaura, I'm still waiting for my 20 week scan too to find out what we are having. Couting down the days :D

[ELP]

Sending good wishes to you aswell today Longing, I hope your little one sails straight through for you xxx

[Southern Butterfly]

Welcome ladylaura, glad you joined us! We have a great group here :)

Longing, you are in my thoughts today as well. Looking forward to some good news from you!

Thorz, haven't seen you around lately. Hope you're doing ok.

[Salsa]

Was just thinking the same thing as you Southern, hope Thorz is doing ok. Haven't seen her on here over Wkend. It's Monday night here and am thinking of Fish and Northern about their scans tomorrow. But I prob won't hear anything until wed morning my time. Sending you positive and strong thoughts to both of you x x x

[Salsa]

Yes Longing, am looking forward to some good news. Thinking of you also!! x x

[Longingforgirl]

Northern and Fish, I am thinking of both of you!! I am still really hoping for a miracle to happen for you tomorrow...!

Thank you for your thoughts as well!!! I was so nervous today and took DH with me. DH was so childish all the time, and as it turned out later, he was just as scared and nervous as I was. He later said that he kept thinking about what if this baby is a boy after all AND has heart issues we have to deal with, maybe severe ones. But at the scan, there suddenly were no heart problems seen anymore. I asked the tech later on how that could happen, and he said sometimes the heart is not mature enough at that gestation state. I am now so so relieved...

And although I was so nervous for myself, I kept thinking about Fish and Northern. I am praying and hoping you both will get about the same good news that I got today. I am crossing all my fingers for you both. You are in my thoughts all the time. :pray:

Ladylaura, great that you joined us :happy:

[DLTAG89]

So glad you got good news longing and your little one is healthy. Lets hope this is a sign of things to come with northern and fish too and we get more good news tomorrow x

[Thorz300]

Sorry I've been out lately, this weekend was a crazy chaotic one! All is well with the baby. The chaotic stuff was that I spent the whole weekend moving our CRAP from one room to another room and painting all the baseboards and door frame to get ready for the new carpet!! The carpet guys left about an hour ago, 2 rooms down and two more to go. Now we have to move everything back into these rooms and move everything out of the last two, so i can rip up the carpet and paint the baseboards in the last two rooms and the hallway and the stairs! It's all coming together, and soon I can get started on the fun decorating of the nursery and my older boys got all new furniture too so I get to decorate 2 new rooms! Ugh I'm in lots of pain with my hips but it has to be done! My mom will be here in two weeks and I want everything back in place sowe aren't adding to the chaos!

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I'm still thinking of all you ladies and hoping and praying for the best outcome possible!!! Please keep us updated!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Thank you all for your prayers and hopes, but honestly, there is no good for us. Even if her problems are no worse, then she will still have severe brain damage. Its hard to believe with how hard she kicks me all day!

So, right now I'm just planning on her first outfit, which is difficult finding something for a 21 week baby. Thankfully a few ladies have offered to knit a hat and a cardigan for her. I wish I'd had time to learn to crochet - I was going to crochet her a hat anyway, it would just have to be a lot smaller. I have decided to wrap her in a blanket my grandma knitted for DS2.

We will be having her cremated, and originally was going to spread them under the cherry tree in our garden, but we may be moving soon, so I think I'll buy a rose and put it in a pot so we can take it with us.

[nuthinbutpink]

Northern, I am very sorry for what you are going through. I cannot imagine and I know you have some tough times ahead.

There is an organization- www.nowilaymedowntosleep.org that offers photography sessions at the hospital free of charge for families like yours that incur an unexpected loss. They have been around for a long time and volunteer photographers from all over provide services.

I know it will be heartbreaking but she is and always will be your daughter and this organization does a beautiful job(I think) of capturing her time here with you.

I will pray for you and your family to see your way through this with grace and some peace.

[Longingforgirl]

Northern, I just read your blog and my eyes are filled with tears. So beautifully written, and so so sad. I don't even know what to say. This is all so unfair, so tragic, so sad. It somehow seems to be due to a virus, which would be making me so angry at that women as well. I don't even know how I would cope with that. I am so so sorry, I so wish we could help you in any way. What you are going through is breaking my heart. You are constantly in my thoughts and prayers.
:tissue:

[fish2012]

Longing whoop whoop so pleased for you!

[fish2012]

Oh Northern my mum said exactly the same to me when i told her about our lill girl - please don't let her lack of faith in you influence your decision. You sound very strong I'm sure if you wanted to try and continue you would be able to cope.

However you should very sure of the path you must go down which although it is horriable sounds right for you and your boys you have a whole family to consider this angel will be at peace and feel no pain, it's you that will deal with all the pain for her and that is so brave and the best thing you a mummy can do for thier babies

so so sad your journey has turned out like this you're in our hearts and prayers, please let us all know if there's anthing we can/you'd like us to do xx

:hugs: are not enough xxx

[Thorz300]

My heart is just torn up and broken for you Northern! I wish I had words for you! I wish I could make it better! Please know we are here for you!

[Tree]

Northen, please please don't consider what I'm about to say as me trying to rocking the boat... It's just a friend of mine's younger brother was in a car accident and the accident resulted in brain damage. The thing is though he is really fine, he is grown up now and has a child of his own. He is happy and has a wonderful life. Another friend also was in a car accident and suffered severe brain damage, he walks a bit funny and stutters but he is lovely and has a great life. He is very adored. I know it's not the same because both if these were accidents that happened after years of normal life. But the thing is it makes you think, if someone you care about became brain damaged as a result of an accident you'd still want them around...
I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe try and get as much info as to what her quality of life etc would be. What you are going through is heartbreaking and yet unimaginable so I suspect far more heartbreaking than I could even possibly comprehend but the only thing worse would be to live with the regret of a choice you made that you can't change. I'm sure you'll give it lots of thought and come to whatever decision is right of you. I just wanted to be an objective perspective. I don't doubt that finding any clarity in your desperate position is next to impossible.
I'm terrible terribly sorry!

[Dreamofpink]

Northern, I remember being in the ttc boards with you last Autumn and I just want to let you know that I'm thinking of you and your family everyday. {{HUGS}}

[Wanting-a-girl]

I agree with tree...
As a mother of two disabled children... They bring so much happiness to my life I couldn't imagine life without them and wouldnt trade them for and nerotypical child... I don't think anyone gets pregnant and hopes for a disabled child... It happens... even if her life is terribly short... She will bring you happiness she will make you smile laugh and cry... She will be beautiful and perfect no matter how short of a time she is here... She will teach you so much!

I do understand that you have to make the right decision for your family...

There are so many disabilities that are not visable on u/s... My brother had a baby 3 years ago and all the ultrasounds were fine she came out def, blind, fluid on her brain... She had 10 brain surgeries in her first year she will never walk or talk... Having babies is risky buisness... I was terrified to have my current preganancy

I am praying sooooo hard for good news for you!

And fish you are always in my thoughts as well! I'm praying so hard for you both

[Charlee]

Northern, I am very sorry for what you are going through. I cannot imagine and I know you have some tough times ahead.

There is an organization- www.nowilaymedowntosleep.org that offers photography sessions at the hospital free of charge for families like yours that incur an unexpected loss. They have been around for a long time and volunteer photographers from all over provide services.

I know it will be heartbreaking but she is and always will be your daughter and this organization does a beautiful job(I think) of capturing her time here with you.

I will pray for you and your family to see your way through this with grace and some peace.

Oh Northern I am so so sorry... please don't blame yourself. I know it's natural, but this is one of those terrible coincedences that is beyond your control.

The organization that nbp refered you to is wonderful. I had a similiar experience with my first son... While you may not want those photos any time soon, I promise you one day they will be important to you. I couldn't bare to look at mine for almost a year after, but it was a very important part of the healing process for me.

I couldn't belive that fate/god was so cruel to me for a long time... but eventually I made sense of my loss (as much as one could I suppose). Now, I volunteer with a group that helps women who are in the position I once was. It has done wonders for my healing process.

I just want you to know I will be thinking of you... I hope you find peace :hugs:

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Nuthinbutpink - thank you for the link, I really didn't think there would be any in the UK and am very pleasently surprised that there are quite a few, even some in our area. The photographer part of me thinks that it would be a lovely thing to do for people, but I know after this, it would affect me greatly. Maybe in time. I don't know if my husband would want someone else there though, he's really struggling with the fact that I want to end this with a labour, he'd rather me go for the surgical route, but the thought of what they'd do to her would destroy me. I want her treated with dignity.

[4Giffins]

Im so sorry for what you are going through Northern! Please know that we are all thinking of you and will be here with you every step of the way to help in any way possible. Even if it is just to listen!!

Im excited to annouce that my ultrasound is scheduled for Wednesday at 11...two more days!! Ohh the nerves! :)

[fish2012]

Nuthinbutpink - thank you for the link, I really didn't think there would be any in the UK and am very pleasently surprised that there are quite a few, even some in our area. The photographer part of me thinks that it would be a lovely thing to do for people, but I know after this, it would affect me greatly. Maybe in time. I don't know if my husband would want someone else there though, he's really struggling with the fact that I want to end this with a labour, he'd rather me go for the surgical route, but the thought of what they'd do to her would destroy me. I want her treated with dignity.

I think you're so brave to do it this way it sounds much more fitting for that lovely lill girl, keep us posted tomorrow what time do you go in? X

[fish2012]

Sorry just to say northern I know a family in a similar situation who had a short service for their lill girl I know your not mega religious but maybe that would feel right?

[WantingPink]

Northern I am so sorry with everything that is going on with you and your little one. I really hope your DH is supportive of your decision to give birth. I think I would want to do the same thing. My heart is breaking for you and your family and I can't even begin to imagine what you are going though. Big hugs :hugs:

[nuthinbutpink]

I would deliver if you decide to go that route. Surgery has risks always. I know here, after 20 weeks, an induction is protocol. A C-section is done past 20 weeks here if a baby is lost after that point and the induction fails.

I had a family member that lost a baby at 20 weeks and they induced her. It took 2 days for contractions to begin and she was able to deliver the baby but had it gone on any longer, they would have performed a c-section on her.

I would certainly consult with specialists and make sure you are okay with going forward and do not have any what-ifs left.

I know others have special needs children and I have a mildly affected child but it does change things. Everyone is impacted- me, my DH, her siblings, it impacts them all and there have been unexpected beautiful moments and also WTF moments along the way.

I do shudder to think if I had found out about my daughter's condition prior to giving birth. What I read on the Internet is NOT my daughter. Not even close. Lots of information is out there and what I have learned is the worst-case scenario is what gets posted. People with children that are mildly affected by a particular syndrome or disease do not share their stories. There are very few (if any) positive stories on the Internet about my child's issue yet I have met several parents that have the same situation as I.

Just don't rely on the Internet for your information I guess is all I am saying.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Google is the devil! Never google anything you will only ever see worst cases!

[Mum to three girls]

Longing, that's great news!

Northern, I'll be thinking of you for your next appointment. I hope it goes smoothly and the decisions you need to make are clear cut.

Salsa, I think for the rest of us September ladies you should get yourself scanned at work! We all need some good news.

[divakotka]

Northern, I'm at a loss for words. I just can't believe you are having to deal with this. Will they be doing the amnio tomorrow? I really hope so as you can never rely solely on an ultrasound for a definitive diagnosis. Even though we are at 20 weeks, these babies are still pretty small and scans can very easily be off by several millimeters if not more. And in your case, that can make a big difference. I find it odd that they didn't ask you in for a second scan after they told you to go have a drink.
I hope my words aren't making this even harder on you. But as the others have said, you want to get as much solid and reliable information as you can before making any decisions. Google really does make everything sound worse.

I know you've already touched on how you want to bring this little girl into the world, what to dress her in, etc, but I won't go there yet! Miracles do happen and I am praying for one tonight.

Lots of love to you.

[Honeychild]

Northern, I just read your news. My whole heart goes out to you. I can't imagine what you're going through. :( I haven't had a chance to read the last few pages but I just want to say that ultimately you will know in your heart what is best for you and your family, and none of our opinions here are relevant compared to that, aside from the fact that we all care for you and feel for you, and will support you through whatever happens. You're in my thoughts, both of you. Xxx

Fish, still crossing everything for you.

Longing, so very glad for you.

[2lovelyboys]

Hi ladies I know I'm not part of this thread but dint want to read and run!

I am so sorry to hear your news!

Northern, I can't began to understand what you are going through or how you are feeling. I pray that you are given the strength to deal with the situation and that you find peace in any decision you make. You are in my thoughts!

Fish I hope it all goes well today! You are also in my thoughts!

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Fish - I just wanted to say good luck to you at today's scan. I hope it is better than what we know our prognosis will be.

[ThreeMenAndALAdy]

Northern and fish,

I'm in a different due date group, but spent time with both of you when we were ttc. I just want to say that I'm thinking of you both. My words are few, but you've both been on my mind constantly since I read your posts.

I think you have a scan today fish? I will be stalking to see how it went.

Northern...HUGE HUGS for you and your beautiful family.

[fish2012]

Hey so more bad news bloods came back positive for toxoplasmosis so this whole thing is my fault, I guess this twin will now die too and it's entirely my own fault I really don't understand how this has happened I hate animals especially cats I never touch animals at farms or stuff or people's pets I haven't done any gardening I just don't understand I've lost babies and its all my own fault

Northern hoping today may bring you better news

I also have an anterior placenta which I guess is why I don't feel so much movement

[DLTAG89]

Northern and fish, thinking of you both today and praying you hear some reassuring news. Bigs hugs go out to you both x

I'm now suffereing with food poisoning and feel terrible. I can bearly keep water down but hoping its short lived. If i'm the same tomorro ill be going to A+E as i'm getting some terrible pains in my bump, bad times :tissue:

[Tree]

Hey so more bad news bloods came back positive for toxoplasmosis so this whole thing is my fault, I guess this twin will now die too and it's entirely my own fault I really don't understand how this has happened I hate animals especially cats I never touch animals at farms or stuff or people's pets I haven't done any gardening I just don't understand I've lost babies and its all my own fault

Northern hoping today may bring you better news

I also have an anterior placenta which I guess is why I don't feel so much movement

Fish this is not your fault at all! You can get toxoplasmosis from unwashed fruit and veg, some meats and even water!

Can they give you antibiotics?

[ELP]

Oh fish:( You cannot think like that. They're are unseen bacteria everywhere! My little DD picked up a germ from possibly dust! and she is still on long term antibiotic treatment after 15 months. Money, toys, everywhere. I pray that your little lady stays safe and they can treat the infection if its still in your system. xxxxxx

[Wanting-a-girl]

O fish did they give any prognosis?
I'm so sorry!

[fish2012]

No they didn't say anything really so guess its not good ;-(

[Wanting-a-girl]

Have you been put on antibiotics?

Do you know when you were infected?

If your not getting answers talk to another dr ASAP!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Fish, I'm so sorry to hear it. Have you had the scan? Did it show anything else?

I'm waiting for my scan now, I'm shaking and feel sick. I just wish neither of us were in this situation :tissue:

[DLTAG89]

Fish i'm so sorry you heard bad news. You really shouldnt blame yourself, you could of picked the bug up from anywhere, you couldnt have possibly known. Did they say if the infection it treatable? Thinking of you x

[Southern Butterfly]

Fish I am so sorry it wasn't good news. Have you been referred to a specialist or given an idea for prognosis?? I've done some reseach and it seems like many babies can be born unaffected but will need long term treatment on antibiotics. I hope you get some more information soon, not knowing has got to be the worst part. I just can't believe this is happening! Praying for you and your baby girl, stay strong little one!!!!

Northern, you've been in my thoughts all weekend. I'm just at a loss for words when it comes to something so tragic as this.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am thinking of you both every minute.

Fish, most people get toxoplasmosis from completely unknown places and not cats, farms, etc. Please do not blame yourself!!!!

[WantingPink]

Fish I am so sorry to hear that you have Toxoplasmosis. Please don't think that this is your fault. It is impossible for you to have known that you had been infected or where it came from. It could have been anywhere and I am sure if you knew you would have avoided that situation. I am so sorry you are going though this. Please keep us updated with what is going on and if they can treat with antibiotics.

[fish2012]

Hi all did some Internet based research and then called my community midwife in the uk they are the only person you see if you have a low risk pregnancy and cried :-( and asked about does it cause cysts as I can't find on the Internet it does, why aren't I on antibiotics and will this baby die if other did? She called hospital and apparently the test I had shows I have had toxoplasmosis in my life time if you pray please pray it was before 3 dec - the blood has now gone to London where they can determine whether the infection is current ie needing antibiotics and a worry or old so okay - ugh this lill lady is a drama queen for sure!

Northern pretty pissed off with scan tbh, sonographer wasn't v nice she checked heart and fluid around baby both normal said she wouldn't do other mmts as at George's had done them already! Literally 2min 1 dodgy pic and no bedside manner ;-(. Bad day today whilst I've had worse news today was worst day care wise ;-(

Have you had yours yet? Xx

[Tree]

Hi all did some Internet based research and then called my community midwife in the uk they are the only person you see if you have a low risk pregnancy and cried :-( and asked about does it cause cysts as I can't find on the Internet it does, why aren't I on antibiotics and will this baby die if other did? She called hospital and apparently the test I had shows I have had toxoplasmosis in my life time if you pray please pray it was before 3 dec - the blood has now gone to London where they can determine whether the infection is current ie needing antibiotics and a worry or old so okay - ugh this lill lady is a drama queen for sure!

Northern pretty pissed off with scan tbh, sonographer wasn't v nice she checked heart and fluid around baby both normal said she wouldn't do other mmts as at George's had done them already! Literally 2min 1 dodgy pic and no bedside manner ;-(. Bad day today whilst I've had worse news today was worst day care wise ;-(

Have you had yours yet? Xx

Fish it is highly highly likely that what they found is antibodies from when you had it, most likely a long time ago!! It's so incredible common to have had it.

Did you have a scan today then? And they didn't check for the cysts? When I was worried about spotting the other day I called mi hospital and they told me that St George's in tooting have a drop in clinic, as in you don't have to make an appointment!? Might be worth looking into. It's totally unfair to leave you with all this worry!!

Northern I hope you are alright!!

[Northern_Shutterbug]

We have just left the hospital and as predicted its not good news, and a miracle didn't happen. Our little Evelyn hasn't improved in regards to the swelling in her brain, which means she'd had severe disabilities. But also the fluid around her stomach has got worse and with the heart abnormalities it suggests she is in heart failure. The dr doubts she'd last the pregnancy.

So, we go back tomorrow to have the tablets, which I don't know what they're for to be honest. I thought they were to stop her heart but apparently not. Then I am back on Friday morning to be induced.

I won't go into more details as its distressing but I thought I'd update you.

[fish2012]

Tree st George's is amazing! That's where I go for next scan on 7 may they are brilliant this was at my local hospital tbh I understand she said her machine wasn't as good as there's she could only see one cyst but that didn't mean other one had gone just she could see it due to equipment lie of baby etc and it was soon to do mmts again. Both I understand but she was rude with it which tbh I don't need ;-(

I had a previous scan without mmt for same reason but sonographer was lovely and explained its like loosing weigh you should t way too often they shouldn't measure too often ;-s

[WantingPink]

Fish it is very very likely you were infected awhile ago. Tons of people have been infected with Toxo and don't know it unless they are tested for the antibodies. The antibodies will give you and your baby protection against future infection. I don't think having the antibodies is bad news as all. Let us know what your testing shows for a current infection but I am sure you will be negative. Sorry you are going through all this stress and hopefully it is all for nothing and baby is fine.

[Tree]

If its just antibodies from previous toxoplasmosis you don't need to ever worry about getting it. You and baby are effectively immunised. Ok not too long until st George's, that's good. And though I'm sure we can't read too much into it due to equipment etc its good only one cyst could be seen today.

Northern I'm so sorry there was no miracle today. I'm utterly heartbroken for you. I hope all goes as well as it can over the next few days.

[WantingPink]

I am so sorry Northern. There are no words for something like this. I am so sorry!! You and your little one are in my thoughts constantly.

[Thorz300]

Fxfxfx northern! I wish I could give you a real hug at the moment!

Fish and Northern I just hope you can find comfort in something, whatever it maybe, I hope you can find peace, and comfort during such hard times!

[fish2012]

Northern I'm so sorry for this news my thoughts are with you what a tough time for you so so sorry xxx

[True Blue]

Northern I have no words to express how utterly sad I am for you right now :( my heart is broken for you xxx
You will stay in my thoughts and prayers :(