September 2013 babies!!

[True Blue]

Fish hoping and praying for good news for you and your little girl xx

[Mum to three girls]

Fish, I agree with the others. It's likely an old toxo exposure so not a current risk at all.

Northern, I'm sorry about your ongoing terrible news. Did you get any guesses as to aetiology (infection vs genetic abnormality)?

[fish2012]

Thank you guys for all your support i really appericate it walking the line of not getting hopes up and not giving up

Share some news of lill ones help distract me while I wait ;-)

In car conversation with DS 2 (nearly two) this morning on way to Nannie's house who looks after him while I work

Noah: Naoh have breakfast at Nannies house
Me: yes darling what do you think she'll give you?
Noah: Most excited voice! Chocolate egg!
Me: (thinking possiable but hope not) really or ceral?
Noah: Sad voice; yes ceral

the downside of free, loving, family childcare! he got ice cream for tea LOL!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Awww that's so cute lol

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Fish, I agree with the others. It's likely an old toxo exposure so not a current risk at all.

Northern, I'm sorry about your ongoing terrible news. Did you get any guesses as to aetiology (infection vs genetic abnormality)?

The dr is quite sure its genetic. he was very good and listened to my reasoning about an infection, and then had me back on the bed to test something to do with anaemia which he said would give an indication at least for the parvo virus, and the results gave him the impression it wasn't. They said they'd test all the viruses though too.

[nuthinbutpink]

Northern, the pills are likely something to induce. If you are inducing and going to the hospital, she will be born alive. You probably need to speak with someone to understand what is going to happen. Are you checking into the hospital at some point?

[fish2012]

Northern glad he was so through and listened to you, have you decided against the amnio or are you waiting for results?

[fish2012]

Fish, I agree with the others. It's likely an old toxo exposure so not a current risk at all.

Northern, I'm sorry about your ongoing terrible news. Did you get any guesses as to aetiology (infection vs genetic abnormality)?

Thanks hun don't like to get my hopes up plus it would fit with the death of twin 2 if it was current ;-(

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Northern glad he was so through and listened to you, have you decided against the amnio or are you waiting for results?

We are having the amnio just before they induce me.

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Northern, the pills are likely something to induce. If you are inducing and going to the hospital, she will be born alive. You probably need to speak with someone to understand what is going to happen. Are you checking into the hospital at some point?

We have be told this and are very scared but there is no other option.

[nuthinbutpink]

We have be told this and are very scared but there is no other option.

I know. I'm not judging you at all. If I knew my child would be severely impaired I would do the same. Just didn't sound like you knew how things were going to go.

With the amnio results, they will likely find the genetic issue at fault but it is extremely likely that it is a totally random event just like my DD.

She is my lightning strike. It's one of those things that "never happens" and I didn't run around in any thunderstorms or have any reason for this to happen but it did. I'm sorry that something has happened to your DD too.

It's shocking when one finds out about something like this and it takes time to make peace with it. I still struggle some days. No judgement from me at all. You have to do what's best for your family. It's not our place to judge at all.

[Honeychild]

Northern, how utterly devastating. I'm so very sorry. I hate the randomness of this whole baby making gig, there's nothing fair about it at all. I won't be able to get onto the net for a few days after this, but I'll be thinking of you and will pray that things go as smoothly as possible, and that they treat you and Evelyn with care and respect. All she will ever know is your love. I wish I knew what to say that might give you some comfort, or at least give you a huge hug. :(

[Honeychild]

Fish, still crossing everything that you get some better news soon. Please stop blaming yourself, there is no way you can possibly isolate yourself from all germs, bacteria, or risks, it's simply not possible, so blaming yourself is like adding insult to injury. If only our babies outcomes were diectly related to how much we love them, things would be so much better. Sorry you had a crappy experience at the hospital yesterday, I hope the next one is better and you get more info soon. Waiting and not knowing is torture. Xxx

[shiningstar]

Northern- I wish I had the words to make everything better. I'm so very sorry. :(

Fish- I agree with everyone else.. Do not blame yourself!! I'll be praying hard that it's an old infection.

Hugs to both of you!!

4Giffins- My ultrasound is tomorrow too! I go one hour after you at 12. What time zone are you in?

[Wanting-a-girl]

Gender u/s tomorrow? That's exciting!

[Honeychild]

Shiningstar and 4giffins, good luck for tomorrow!

[Mum to three girls]

I think Shiningstar and 4Giffins are finding out tomorrow.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Exciting I will be stalking! :)

[Elements]

Northern - I read your blog, my heart breaks for you :(

[Southern Butterfly]

Northern I too have been reading your blog and with each update I end up in tears. No mother should ever have to go through a loss like this, the word "unfair" just doesn't touch the scale of this. My heart is truly breaking for you and your family. I can tell from your words how amazingly strong you are and although I understand you will never be the same, I know you will come through this.

[Southern Butterfly]

I think Shiningstar and 4Giffins are finding out tomorrow.

Best of luck to you both! We desperately need some good news on this board!

[4Giffins]

Good luck tomorrow Shinningstar! I'm glad to know know we are in this together! :) I am in the Pacific time zone so just a little over 12 hours now... I can't believe I will know soon, seems like it took so long to get here, but now I'm not sure that I'm ready! Lol Haven't told anyone about the scan in real life so you guys will be the first to hear! I am very relieved that I wont have to answer to anyone else tomorrow!!

[babygirlforme]

Fish I am very sorry to read your news. I really hope that you get some good news on your little girl soon. xx

[fish2012]

4giffins and shining star good luck mot long now!

[babygirlforme]

Northern my heart aches reading your posts. It is not fair at all. I am sorry you didn't get better news today.

I wanted to reach out and tell you that I understand your pain. If you have any questions that I can help you with please feel free to pm me.

I wish you didn't have to go through any of this.

I am so so sorry.

[Longingforgirl]

I just read your blog Northern and was so hoping for better news, for a miracle. I am so so sorry this has not happened and I cannot find any words of comfort. Now the only hope I have is that you will make it well through the delivery on Friday. I hope it all goes well. I think it is very brave of you going through the natural delivery. But I also think that this will help you in your mourning process. Do you already have a counselor you (and your DH as well) can talk to? I hope you and your DH can be there for each other.

You are in my thoughts all the time really, and I am praying and hoping you will get through this somehow and get a lot of support from loving understanding people.


Fish, I am thinking of you also. When will you be getting the results of that test? I hope you had taxoplasmosis before December. This waiting must be so hard, not really knowing what is going on. I am crossing my fingers for you, hoping for really good news. We really need that here now. And you need this the most, after what you have been going through.

[fish2012]

hey longing results may take up to a week ;-S just constantly praying its an old infection......and the cysts will clear by themselves begining to feel I'm not going to be that lucky thou ;-(

[DLTAG89]

Oh fish, i bet a week feels like a life time away. Praying for good news for you x

Good luck for your scans today Shinningstar and 4giffins. Looking forward to hearing both your news later :)

[2lovelyboys]

Northern, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this terrible time!

[2lovelyboys]

Fish, hoping that this week passes quickly for you, praying you get good news! :hugs:

[fish2012]

so having been on and off crying for past 24hrs called to ask which day bloods will be back and have been told 3-4weeks! what!
Have managed to speak to another midwife who's speaking to the consultant for me to find out why they aren't just giving me antibotics, why don't they do an amnio if results would be quicker and whether think twin 1 is still at risk of miscarridge - ugh i know i'm pregant and hormonal but 4 weeks is that resonable?!

you're all preggie too maybe not a fair sample ;-0

[Salsa]

Oh Fish and Northern, my heart is broken for you both. Fish I still have hope for some positive news.
Northern, I wish I could find the words to comfort you the best way possible. I too have been reading your blog, and tears flow after every entry. I'm so devastated for you, life really is cruel sometimes. I pray things go as smoothly as possible on Friday for you. You will be in my every thought.

Good luck to those getting gender scans. I will be stalking. We need some good news now x

[Wanting-a-girl]

4 weeks is not reasonable! Is there anyway to call like you family dr and get them to give u antibiotics!? I would keep calling the midwives til something is done

[Salsa]

Fish! 4 wks!! No that is too long. Not fair on you and the anxiety you'll have over those 4 wks will not be good for u or your little girl. I hope you get some answers sooner than this. I just wish I could look into a crystal ball and see the future turn out ok for you. I hope this time passes quickly, I know it will no doubt do the opposite!! But we are always here to talk to to pass the time. Big hugs your way x x x

[fish2012]

ah thank you ladies so, consultant on holiday he's going to call tomorrow..........hoepfully should be able to answer some questions!

ladies i belive you have scans today news news news news.......?????

[Wanting-a-girl]

what is the blood work that was given? everyday at this point will feel like a eternity for you!!! whens your next midwife appt? I am very hopfull that things will turn out quite well for you fish... this scares the crap out of me... i cleaned the cats litter box 2 weeks ago cause DH was being a lazy piece of SH*T ... altho im pretty confident that i would have gotten toxoplasmosis when i was younger and dealing with farm animals and cats and dirty stuff all the time....

this fourm really needs some good news so fingers are crossed todays scans see HEALTHY babies....

[queen-bee]

Dear fish and northern, both of you are in my prayers. I feel there is a hope for your little girl, fish. She is a fighter! Hope you get your results soon.
I can't stop thinking about you and your baby girl, northern. This could happen to any one of us, and if it did happen to me I don't know what I would do.. My NT scan was high risk, but I decided not to do further tests and trying not to think about it. I pray that God gives you strength to live through this rough period of your life. Hope that whatever choice you make, you will be sure it's the only right one for you and your family. xxx

[fish2012]

WAG LOL i'm sure you're fine i've never touched a bloody animal in my life ;-S
next midwife appoint is 20 may, scan with specalist 7 may.......

[queen-bee]

Don't blame yourself, fish. We have always had cats and they even slept in our bed, but somehow I didn't catch any disease from them. Remember being worried about toxoplasmosis when I got pg with DS2 (read about it for the first time then), but blood test came back negative. There is no logic in trying to understand how, where and why you got it. Really hope this is from previous exposure and that your girl is ok.

[Thorz300]

Any news on the scans today!!?!??

[4Giffins]

My appt is in 45 minutes!! Will update as soon as Im done!!! Eekkk! :)

[Wanting-a-girl]

Tick tock tick tock can't wait to hear!

[dloui128]

My appt is in 45 minutes!! Will update as soon as Im done!!! Eekkk! :)

Dropping in to say good luck :)

[Longingforgirl]

My appt is in 45 minutes!! Will update as soon as Im done!!! Eekkk! :)

:fx:

Shiningstar, for you too today!!!

[True Blue]

Can't wait to hear 4Giffins :)

Good Luck Shiningstar :)

[Southern Butterfly]

Just hopped on to stalk as well!!! :bigsmile:

[fish2012]

me three! i don't get tiome zones have been coming on all day LOL!

Shiningstar update please

[4Giffins]

Here I am!! can't believe I'm updating with.... it's s BOY!!! Will post some pics when I get back to work! :)

[Girlsway]

That's great news 4Griffins, well done! Congratulations.

[Southern Butterfly]

YAY 4Griffins! So happy for you, Congratulations:babym:

[True Blue]

Excellent news 4Giffins I am so happy for you. I would love to feel what you feel right now :) I can only imagine the excitement :D
Congratulations :DS:

[fish2012]

4griffins congrats whoop whoop

:bluecheer:

[fish2012]

shining star.........?????????????

[Wanting-a-girl]

Congrats yay

[shiningstar]

4Giffins, I'm so happy for you!! Yay!

Y'all are going to be mad at me. Lol! Dh knows but I don't. He put the potty shot in an envelope and it's sitting right by me. I am trying to get up the courage to open it. I feel so selfish for feeling this way. The baby is healthy and was moving around like crazy. :)

[Wanting-a-girl]

OPeN IT! :)

[fish2012]

shinging star open it NOW I NEED good news!

pretty please!

:drama:

[DLTAG89]

4giffins great news, made up for you and your little boy :DS:

OPEN IT, OPEN IT, ohh how exciting :D

[True Blue]

Open it now :D PLEASE!

[divakotka]

4Giffins, congrats on your little boy! :)

Shiningstar -- no way, you can't torture us like this!!!

I'm on here just quickly as we are leaving for our big trip to Europe tomorrow. We are flying with a US military airplane on their space available program. It's a C-17, a HUGE cargo jet and it will be the adventure of a lifetime. I am so excited yet nervous at the same time. You have to wear earplugs the entire time because the engines are so loud. But we will have lots of room to walk around and even sleep on the floor (got a special mattress). I hope the boys will handle it well. Flying commercially on transatlantic flights is really tough but I hope this will be fun! Not to mention it is saving us nearly $5000! And I haven't been home (Luxembourg) in over 4 years!

I will check in on here once I get to Europe. :)

[divakotka]

Northern -- I've been reading your blog and I am utterly heartbroken for you. I think about you all the time. Like the others, it is hard to find words of comfort in this situation. I'm praying that all will go as well as it can with the induction and for your emotional and physical healing. Big hugs...

[Wanting-a-girl]

Open it open it open it!

Have fun on your trip that sounds extremely awesome!

[fish2012]

oh diva your boys will love that how amazing

shinging star enough now open it ;-)

[Mum to three girls]

Diva, that sounds amazing. I am so jealous.

Yay for 4Giffins!

Shining, you have the most amazing willpower.. But it's time to open it!!

[4Giffins]

Thanks so much ladies!! I cant believe it myself, it does feel pretty good thats for sure! Shinningstar!? Thats not even fair!! You can do it..open that envelope!!!!

Here is the pic of our little man..something I never thought Id see! Lol
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[Southern Butterfly]

Diva- That sounds like such an amazing trip, have fun!!

Shining- I have to admit I really am hoping you open it soon BUT at the same time I understand you need to do it when you're ready. Glad baby was happy and healthy!!

[Longingforgirl]

4Giffins - soo great!!!! Congratulations! You must be over the moon :happy:

Shiningstar, I am with the others... you can do it!! I am hoping for good news from you too!!! But I also do understand if you still need time. When I was at my 15 weeks scan which I so had been waiting for to find out gender, I suddenly got so nervous that I thought I wasn't ready to find out yet. Those rollercoaster feelings before finding out are kind of tricky.. lol. Hope you will get yourself to open it soon though. You are so brave, having the envelope sitting right next to you. Sounds like torture!!

Diva, that really sounds amazing!!! I hope the boys will be excited as well and enjoying this very special trip! How long are you staying in Europe for? We are just driving today from South to North Germany (DH's parents live there, which is 650 miles away - too far to drive but too close to fly, lol). It was like Summer yesterday down here, and up there it's winter again. And I am so sick of it. But it's only until Saturday. Lol. I am so glad!

Fish, I am so hoping for good news soon from you too. Still praying for you!!!

Northern, my thoughts are with you all the time. I just cannot find any words of comfort. I really hope you are getting a lot of support and I wish you the strength to get through this.. It is so unbelievably heartbreaking :sad: :sad:

[fish2012]

Okay spoken to my consultant bloods at another lab results back in two hours not so detailed results re timing but if positive for infection ever antibiotics as fast as they can find them and back to specialist for amnio and brain scan

Fx!

[Tree]

Okay spoken to my consultant bloods at another lab results back in two hours not so detailed results re timing but if positive for infection ever antibiotics as fast as they can find them and back to specialist for amnio and brain scan

Fx!

That's great, hopefully you will have more info very soon and hopefully hopefully it will be good news!

[Mum to three girls]

Good luck Fish!

Although I thought they already knew you'd been exposed at some stage? Though it's probably safer to assume that the exposure is recent and treat you and the baby until more definitive results are back.

I have suddenly become enormous, will post a pic after my bath. Have been enjoying snoozing while the baby sleeps as well.

[Mum to three girls]

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17 weeks although it is at the end of the day when I am the hugest. Excuse PJs and messy bathroom.

[Thorz300]

Mum you look so cute, I don't even have a belly yet, I just look fat and like ive gained 20 lbs, when I have actually only gained 7 lbs, I'm carrying SOOOO much different this time...

FISH, waiting on pins and needles to hear your update, my fingers are crossed for you

Thinking of you Northern

Shining Star.........OPEN IT!!!

[Mum to three girls]

I wish I'd only gained 7 lbs, though so far I'm doing slightly better than previous pregnancies. I do tend to stack it on though, I think a combination of being hungry and not running.

[Wanting-a-girl]

O god I went to my prenatal yesterday and I still go to my family dr for my prenatals til June anyways I'm in the waiting room and in walks ds1 "sperm donor"! Omfg I have not seen him in 8 years cause he was very obsessive about me and he was into some criminal activity so I didn't want my son around him... It's weird to know that this person obviously lives close to me has the sme dr apparently and not once has tried to contact me since I told him I wanted him out of our lives... Disk mention it was ds1 birthday the day before ...omg it was soooo uncomfortable I almost left

O and apparently I gained 7lbs this month lmao! I was shocked!

[Thorz300]

Wanting that had to be awkward did you guys speak to one another or just ignore each other.

So the new carpet will finally be complete on Friday and then after I get the CHAOS all organized again, I get to really get started on my nursery. I'm thinking of making a grey and white rug like these, which one do you like better? I actually will probably do one of each one for my older boys room and the other for the nursery, obviously not pink though :(. The shag one looks more nursery like I think. However, that one will be more time consuming and probably more expensive.
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[Wanting-a-girl]

I love that shag rug! How do you make it!?

We ignored each other I just looked the other way... Thank god I got called into my appt after about 5 mins....

[DLTAG89]

Stressed out, sorry for the moan :(

Had food poinsoning on tue and was getting pains in my bump. Had a bleed today and midwife said she'd phone me back with info on what i could do and i've not heard anything back, seems like the midwifes dont care round here. To top it off i've got a driving lesson to do in a few hours.

Sorry girls as i know theres people on here with much bigger problems :tissue:

Thorz love them rugs, esp the top one :) x

[Thorz300]

Sorry you haven't been feeling well DLT food poisoning is awful!!! I hope all is well with the baby!

The shag rug is made by using one of those non skid rug pads (that go under area rugs) and taking a bunch of fabric cut into scraps and you loop them through and tie them on, very time consuming but SUPER cute.

[shiningstar]

Ok, I opened it and it's a boy! This morning before I opened it I was an emotional wreck. I was crying and dh said just open it already. I knew it had to be a boy or he would just ut me out of my misery. I went in the bathroom to open it. I got my hopes up a little because I saw 3 lines, but I think it was the cord or his hand. Then I saw the word BOY. To be honest my heart sank. I keep going through different emotions and it's driving me crazy. MostlyI'm ok. I'm trying to look at the positives but my heart still hurts. Please don't say sorry. I don't want any pity. He is healthy and I know I'm blessed. I just need a lot of support right now.

[Thorz300]

Ok, I opened it and it's a boy! This morning before I opened it I was an emotional wreck. I was crying and dh said just open it already. I knew it had to be a boy or he would just ut me out of my misery. I went in the bathroom to open it. I got my hopes up a little because I saw 3 lines, but I think it was the cord or his hand. Then I saw the word BOY. To be honest my heart sank. I keep going through different emotions and it's driving me crazy. MostlyI'm ok. I'm trying to look at the positives but my heart still hurts. Please don't say sorry. I don't want any pity. He is healthy and I know I'm blessed. I just need a lot of support right now.

I'm so glad you opened it! I know it stings a bit, I have been there 4 times now lol, but honestly having 3 boys is so much fun. I wouldn't trade it for the world, even though DS3 is absolutely crazy into EVERYTHING! You will have a blast loving them and being their one and only princess! Give yourself some time to adjust and process but I promise you 3 little guys will bring you such joy and happiness!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Congrats on ur baby boy! I have the best bond with my third boy it's insane! It nothing to have pitty about your having a healthy little boy :)

I am def looking into making one of those rug! I love them I have bought a few for my kitchen but always end up having to throw them out cause of spills and such :( I think I would like one for infront of my crib...

[Southern Butterfly]

Fish- Can't wait for your results too! Hopefully you get some positive news.

Mum- Looking good, you are still all bump! I have really popped too, will take some pics later this week if I get the chance.

WAG- I can't imagine how akward that was. Sad that he isn't involved in his son's life :(

DLTA- So sorry you've been sick! I've never had food poisoning but have had horrible stomach bugs and I know how much it takes a toll on you. Hope the bleed is nothing serious, has it stopped or is it ongoing?

Thorz- Glad to see you around! Those rugs are awesome and I can't believe you are going to make them yourself, I'm impressed!

Shining- Thinking of you and hope you're doing ok!

Northern- you are still very much in my thoughts. I actually awoke several times last night thinking about you and your sweet little Evelyn.

[Southern Butterfly]

Ok, I opened it and it's a boy! This morning before I opened it I was an emotional wreck. I was crying and dh said just open it already. I knew it had to be a boy or he would just ut me out of my misery. I went in the bathroom to open it. I got my hopes up a little because I saw 3 lines, but I think it was the cord or his hand. Then I saw the word BOY. To be honest my heart sank. I keep going through different emotions and it's driving me crazy. MostlyI'm ok. I'm trying to look at the positives but my heart still hurts. Please don't say sorry. I don't want any pity. He is healthy and I know I'm blessed. I just need a lot of support right now.

You posted your update while I was slowly pecking away with my long previous post lol.

Congratulations to you!!! No pity from me as I too know how wonderful a 3rd little boy can be. My DS3 was my absolutel worst GD baby (while I was pregnanct that is). I admit I was in a very dark place and couldn't see any kind of light at the end. Well the moment I saw him I realized he WAS my light at the end of the tunnel! He has brought so much joy to our family I cannot even describe it. It's because of him that I don't have any GD this go around. He has taught me soooo much in the short time he's been on this earth and I am thankful everyday that I was lucky enough to have him. You will get there too, I know it. It's ok to go through all the emotions you need to, no need for any guilt. Sometimes you have to go through that part in order to get to the other side and find the "light" waiting for you. Once you see that little light, you will fall head over heels in love!

[Southern Butterfly]

Ok took a quick pic... I'm gaining so much weight!!! Was 89lbs when I got my bfp and am now up to 115lbs BOOOO:tissue:

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[Thorz300]

Southern you still look tiny! Later today ill take a bump pic, and you will see chunky!! I don't even look pregnant just fat......

So I might over load you ladies with pics as I make progress in the rooms! We bought a bunk bed with a full bed underneath for my older boys. I actually didn't want it and I was mad at DH for spending money on it because I had 2 very expensive pottery barn twin bedding sets (originally expensive but not for me because one was a hand me down and the other an ebay find) so I wanted a double twin bunk bed. But he bought the other anyway......I was freaking out because it didn't want to waste the other bedding, or try to figure out how to find something that goes well with the one i would use on the top bunk but on a whim I decided to look on Craig's list and I found a full/queen set of the bedding for only $40 (this was incredibly lucky because they haven't sold this set in stores for over 10 years) so now if we ever stuff another twin bed in this room I have bedding for all 3 boys!!! I was so excited about finding the bedding I started to put the bunk bed together myself just so I could see what it was going to look like. I only got the full bed assembled when I realized the rest of the bunk bed would have to wait for DH because my hips are killing me.....oh we'll at least I got this far.....
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Sorry for the long post I was just super excited to have found it and to be getting started!

[Adia]

Ok, I opened it and it's a boy! This morning before I opened it I was an emotional wreck. I was crying and dh said just open it already. I knew it had to be a boy or he would just ut me out of my misery. I went in the bathroom to open it. I got my hopes up a little because I saw 3 lines, but I think it was the cord or his hand. Then I saw the word BOY. To be honest my heart sank. I keep going through different emotions and it's driving me crazy. MostlyI'm ok. I'm trying to look at the positives but my heart still hurts. Please don't say sorry. I don't want any pity. He is healthy and I know I'm blessed. I just need a lot of support right now.

For whatever reason the GD that comes with a 3rd of the same genders is raw and real and extremely painful.

BUT the flip side of that is a baby that will own your heart like no other. I have seen it time and time again, and I have experiences it first hand, your DS3 will have you wrapped around his pinkie for life.

I love my DD1 and DD2 but DD3 is the epitome of my heart running around outside my body.

In the meantime, I feel your pain so well and I know you will get through it. Stay busy and distracted and plan out what you will say to people who ask.

My two cents is to LIE and say you don't know the gender. The comments I got with DD3 were BRUTAL and if I did it again, I'd flat out lie. No one is going to make a stupid ass comment when you have a beautiful baby in your arms!!

Hugs honey!!!

[fish2012]

Hey all what a busy day!

Shining star congratulations on your beautiful baby, we all know you will fall in love with him and that the way you feel is because of the loss of your dream of a girl. Say whatever is on your heart no one will judge you here I'm so sorry, hopefully you'll have time to come to terms with this before your beautiful boy arrives

Wag - ugh horrible moment, don't dwell on the past he must be a loser ;-)

Thorz - omg where are you getting the energy for all this?! Impressed!

Southern that is a tiny bump lol!

Daltag oh being ill is never fun poor you, celebrate with those who celebrate morn with those who morn, don't compare, the fact we all share our highs and lows is what makes this work. Bleeding and unsympathetic midwives sucks

Northern - thoughts and prayers with you and dh tonite there are no words, assume you have childcare for the boys? If not me n boys will come and road trip to you, you must nt go alone. If there is anything we can do please let us know thinking of you

[fish2012]

We've had a lovely day out in the sun what I needed! And some good news finally! I have no current antibodies for toxoplasmosis! The microbiologist said for the number to be zero the infection must have been weeks ago possibly months ago they froze my 'booking bloods' this was at about 9 weeks into preggie so they are testing these now results on Monday, if these come back negative too it's an infection from before I was preggie! Feeling brighter today thank you all for your support feel like there is some hope today everything crossed for Monday!

[Thorz300]

Such good news fish!!!! Yay!

[Southern Butterfly]

Fish, that's great news! I'm so happy and I can imagine you are very relieved. I bet you get more good news Monday!

Thorz, where on earth do you get all this energy??? I've been soooo fatigued the last week or so, it's all I can do to keep my eyes open some days. The bedding looks adorable. I love PB kids too but like you I only buy it second hand.

[DLTAG89]

Fish so glad you've finally had some good news, really hope you have more good news in the coming days.

Thorz cant wait to see the pics of your nursery when its all finished, i bet it will look amazing.

shiningstar congratulations on your little boy. I'm sure the moment you see him you'll fall in love with your special little man and he will be the perfect addition to your family.

Thankfully the bleeding stopped and the midwife called back (3 hours later) and said she wasnt worried but if i loose any more i have to go in. Sorry if its a little TMI but i'm pretty sure it was part of my mucus plug, surly it must be too early though?

Loving the bump pics too :) I've now outgrown most of my pants and have given in today and worn my maternity jeans for the first time. They were sooo comfy.

[Wanting-a-girl]

That's great news fish!

[Thorz300]

Dont mind my boys messy room, remember, I've been working on clearing the chaos but we have extra furniture in that room until the rest of the carpet is installed tomorrow!! Yay! But you can see the new carpet in this pic, it is so very soft and cozy! Here is my 18 weeks (well, 18 weeks according to the measurements at my 12 week scan) bump pic. I really don't have much of a bump just an all around thickness. I would much rather have a bump. I did with all 3 of my other pregnancies, but this one I am carrying so differently than with the others......

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[Wanting-a-girl]

Your tiny thorz... That's how I was with my first three boy... This baby is making me huge lol

[Wanting-a-girl]

Mucus plug regenerates all the time I was losing some of mine a few weeks back but I had no blood... I never had blood in mucuos plug even before labour I pave never had the classic bloody show....


Has anyone had their weather break naturally? Its somethin I wanted this time with my first three it was done by the drs

How is everyone feeling about labour now that we are getting closer? I am so scared this time! I don't know why.... With ds3 my epidural didn't work so I wanted to just go without this time... I went fully natural with ds2 not by choice tho...

[Thorz300]

Your tiny thorz... That's how I was with my first three boy... This baby is making me huge lol

Lol that is how I was with DS3, I just ballooned up with DS3, it got to the point that I wouldn't even let the Dr or the nurse tell me what my weight was, and I would close my eyes when I got on the scale....But I had so much water weight that even my nose was huge lol! I didn't realize it until I saw the pics of me in the hospital with the baby, and I couldn't believe it, I didn't even recognize myself! Lol

[Thorz300]

I've been induced with all 3 because of the pain my hips cause me, I cant bear the pain until 40 weeks so the dr puts me out of my misery, but I want to go naturally for my last baby, we'll see though as it gets closer. My last epidural was a nightmare experience so I wont be getting another one.

[Wanting-a-girl]

What week do u usually get induced?

Yesterday when I was walking I had sharp pain down my leg and today I'm havin constant pain on my pelvic bone... Is it SPD my friend says it is cause shes had it but I'm not sure

I was only induced with ds3 and that was 39 weeks... I had ds1 at 36 weeks and ds2 at 41 weeks :s... I will have the choice to induce this time if I want but I kinda want to go by myself so I'm thinking of starting primrose at 36 weeks vaginally and red raspberry leaf tea... He's already measuring a week ahead and I'm prone to 9 pound babies so I would like to have him before kids start school and him be a tad smaller than 9 so I was hoping to have him the end of august

[Thorz300]

What week do u usually get induced?

Yesterday when I was walking I had sharp pain down my leg and today I'm havin constant pain on my pelvic bone... Is it SPD my friend says it is cause shes had it but I'm not sure

I was only induced with ds3 and that was 39 weeks... I had ds1 at 36 weeks and ds2 at 41 weeks :s... I will have the choice to induce this time if I want but I kinda want to go by myself so I'm thinking of starting primrose at 36 weeks vaginally and red raspberry leaf tea... He's already measuring a week ahead and I'm prone to 9 pound babies so I would like to have him before kids start school and him be a tad smaller than 9 so I was hoping to have him the end of august
I got induced 10 days early with Ds1 and DS3 but I tried to go naturally with DS2 but he wasn't coming on his own and I didn't want to go over 40 weeks so we induced on my due date.

It probably is SPD but it could also be sciatica or sacroiliac joint dysfunction either way they are all painful!

[DLTAG89]

Aw thorz your bump looks tiny, love the skirt too. I'd love to wear something like that but its way too cold here (plus i'm only 5'0 so look silly in long skirts). Its lovely though :)

Both my waters went but both were very different. With DS1 they went gradually over about 6 hours (my whole labour) and it felt like i was peeing myself the entire time and with DS2 they went pop right before he was born.

I'm so so scared about the birth this time too. I had an episomoty with DS1 and a bad 2nd degree tear with DS2 so i know whats coming this time. I didnt have any pain relief with either boys (apart from paracetomol with DS2) but being stiched up was so much worse than the births so this time i'm doing EVERYTHING i possiby can to stop tearing but i'm really not looking forward to it. I'm thining past it though and thinking about bringing the baby home.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Do they freeze you before an episiotomy? I'm just curious cause it looks sooo painful.... My first son was vacuumed out and I had 3rd degree tares and when he stitched me up it took well over and hour... My vajay will never look the same lol.... O well

[Southern Butterfly]

Holy Cow Thorz you are a skinny minnie! I hate you :P

The only time my water broke on it's own was with DS2 and honestly I hated it lol. I thought I had peed but it didn't feel like peeing so I got up to go tell DH and while I was standing there WOOSH it was like buckets of water falling out of me. He just sat there and stared at me, I shouted "dom't just look at me, get me a towel!!!" lol. With every cx more would gush out the whole ride to the hospital and while I was walking into the ER... it felt so gross. That was my fastest labor though, 5 hours exactly. Water broke at 1:45 and he was born at 6:45 but that was also the only time they didn't intervene to stop my labor since my water had already broken. With the other 2 they tried everything to stop labor but all it did was prolong it ugh.

As for epidurals I definitely want one for the pushing. I went all natural (completely unplanned- long story) with DS1 and ended up with 3rd degree tears because I panicked and forced him out being in so much pain. Wit DS2 and 3 I waited to get the epi just before pushing as I usually handle the contractions prettty well on my own. With the epi's I had no tearing or stitches which was amazing.

I'm really not worried about labor as my last 2 were really very smooth.The only concern of course is the health of the baby depending how far along I am when I deliver.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Hmmm they turn the epidurals off here for the pushing....

My first labour was 10 hours 2nd 30 mins and 3rd 2 hours.... I would like a four hour labour the fast labours come on bery intense.... With ds2 I was woken up at 3 am in crazy labour I swear I woke the hospital up I was screaming at the top of my lungs

[Rosie85]

Crashing your board here ladies....

Dltag---I had an episiotomy with my second and was TERRIFIED of another because recovery was horrible. This might be too personal to share for some but I researched for hours on how to prevent tearing or a need for cutting, I read over and over again to get the blood flowing to the perineum. How to do this? Orgasm. I used a vibrator like crazy the last month before birth, almost everyday. Doctor said I stretched beautifully and I didn't even tear a tiny bit. I healed sooo fast afterwards too! I believe the orgasms really helped. Also having baby in an optimal position will really help too.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Hmmm I was wondering if vibrators were safe during pregnancy lol I havnt use mine since getting preg thinking the baby might not like the vibrations lmao...... I will def up my sex lol so I get lots big O's ;) I did have lots of sex before ds3 and he was the longest delivery I've had 30 mins of pushing... I was going to do the perennium massage the last couple weeks

[Rosie85]

I made sure to use an external one just in case, lol!

I also read lots of orgasms makes for a happier baby ;-) So far Ds3 seems to be very relaxed!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Happy baby and a happy mommy :D lol I get really bad contractions after sex for about 10 mins but I had that with ds3 as well

[Salsa]

Goodness!! I haven't been able to post for a day and so much activity to catch up on!
Fish-wonderful news about toxo. I have my fingers crossed for Monday. But so glad you are feeling more positive today.

Thorz-you are soooooo teeny tiny!! I'll post a pic soon and show you all what a heffalump looks like lol

Shining - congrats on a healthy baby. I think the last couple of weeks has proven to us all that that is ultimately what we all really want. Allow your self all the time you need to grieve the loss of that dream-it does not mean you feel any differently towards this little boy. I tried explaining to my husband when our last baby was born (out second boy) that I felt such disappointment he wasn't the girl I wanted but didn't mean I loved him any less, it's a hard concept to get when it's not happening to you!

Who have I missed?? DTA so sorry about your food poisoning and little bleed. I lost some of my plug with ds1 at about 30 wks. It does just keep regenerating. I ended up needing to be induced at 40wks so he stayed put!!

With my DD my waters broke at home with a gush!! Like you see on the movies! Contractions started soon after and once we got to hospital I had an epidural which allowed me to labour through the night and I delivered her first thing in the morning still quite numb and pushed her put with 4 pushes no stitches.

My 2 boys were both induced at 40wks. All my babies are over 9lb and my last was nearly 10lb. I loved I got to experience my waters breaking on their own but also now love the induction process. I find planning care for my others knowing DH will get my to hospital on time etc etc makes me less anxious.
Both boys labours have been incredibly quick. I dilate from 3-10cm in about half hr once they've broken my waters. I've never needed any pitocin. My last one I barely got epidural in time b4 I had to push. Again I did 1-2 pushes and out they came. Again no stitches. I'm very lucky- for some reason I'm just made to push out babies!! Lol my mum and did had a horrid time with labour and I just assumed I'd be the same.
I don't even need paracetamol afterwards. No swelling or anything. It's quite bizarre considering how big these babies are and how little my pelvis normally is.
Anyway my last one though had a bit of a scary moment afterwards. I hemorrhaged badly afterwards. And it will happen again. Apparently my doc said its like my uterus spits the babies put so quickly it then gets lazy and forgets to contract down so I could bleed out!! Anyway lots of meds managed to stop it and all those drugs will be ready to go this time round. So I have to be induced again a little early this time so as not to risk going into labour at home and bleed out b4 getting to hospital!

Anyway, northern I'm thinking of you constantly. Good luck today. I wish I lived closer and could come and support you. Help with kids, anything to make this time a little easier. You are a strong person, and we are all here for you when you want us x x x

[Thorz300]

Oh man, I realize most of you are asleep and that is where I should be too, but we were up late getting ready for the new carpet (DH is still working on it) and I took a tumble down the stairs!!! I think I may have broken my foot, and my hips are in a world of pain!! I was supposed to go to my OB appt tomorrow but it looks like I will be making a trip to a different doc!!! Bummer, I don't think my OB will be happy, I already had to reschedule last week to this week so by the time I see her it will have been 6 weeks and they like to see you every 4 weeks. Ugh, I'm probably in for it for the rest of my pregnancy!!!

[fish2012]

Northern thinking of you today hope all goes as smoothly as it can x

[Salsa]

Oh no Thorz!! You poor thing!!! Are you going to the hospital?? Keep us updated with your foot. And yes maybe this is a sign you should of been in bed lol x x

[fish2012]

I had an episiotomy with ds1 and tearing with ds2 I tried the massage both times think I'll go with the orgasms lol s sounds more fun thanks for tip! I'm hoping for a water birth too if I'm rerisked enough by then to be allowed one!

Oh haven't let myself think about it in case it wasn't going to happen so fx not tempting fate!

Thorz poor you! 4 weeks is very often here it's about 8 for a normal pregnancy so wouldn't worry too much hope all okay with bubba and ankle not broken x

[Mel1983]

Just wanted to let u all know I have my gender scan Sunday at 12 o clock! So nervous! I know I don't post often but I'm always catching up with u girlies! Praying everything is ok during my scan. I have 2 boys already so would love to here girl, I'll post on Sunday evening to let u know. You will be the only ones that know have kept it a secret from everyone else!!

[Salsa]

Good luck Mel!!! I'll be stalking!! Can't wait to hear what you have. Hoping you hear pink x x

[DLTAG89]

Oh poor you thorz. Hope your foot and hip are ok and you've not broken anything. Big hugs

Northern you, your family and your little girl are all in my thoughts today x

I had anestheic when i had the episomoty (i think, i was pretty out of it) but i still felt everything. DS1 was also born with ventouse as they needed to get him out quick but i went to a birth centre with DS2 so they didnt do episomotys there and everything was natural, i tried for a water birth but DS2 was too quick and wouldnt wait, i'm just hoping this labour isnt any quicker as we might not make it to the hospital in time :nails:

Liking the vibrator idea too, i'm willing to try anything to not tear, i've done loads of reading on the best position to give birth to stop tearing and also loads of reading on perineal massage so hoping these things combined will cut the risk down.

[Thorz300]

Oh my goodness, the pain is unbearable!! It's 330am here I woke up from the pain. I had to pee and could not walk, I had to hop, the problem with that is the other leg is my worst hip so now because they are on opposite sides of my body, I can't use one side or the other to bare all my weight. Looks like I'm going to spend the day at the doc. I would be SHOCKED if this is not broken. I have a very high tolerance for pain, this woke me from my sleep!

*******its now 630 I still haven't slept, the pain is too intense o I've had a total of 1 hour sleep! DH just went to a friends house to see if they can come be with the boys while he takes me to the hospital. Hopefully I get home before the carpet installation. Ugh what a day this will be.

[ladylaura1990]

Hi ladies, been a few days since I last commented (phones a pain in bum when I try comment) hoping all goes well for the ladies going through a hard time at the moment, been checking progress of you everyday & hoping for the best outcomes.

After reading all your birth stories, which I love to hear about, I had to comment with mine :).

With my DD I was induced at 36+ weeks due to Pre Eclampsiaafter a week in hospital and numerous blood, wee and blood pressure tests, sweeps & essays I finally got to 2cm and taken to delivery. Once my waters had been broken by the midwife at 8.15pm I was off, was 3cm up until 9.45 but my contractions has been coming constant the whole hour and a half, midwife and family was very suprised when she arrived just 14miniutes later at 9.59pm. Saying that so was I, took 2 pushes to get her out fully and onlyhad a small tear, but did have a large bleed afterwards, which ment I had to be monitored the night & stay on delivery, gas and air was my best friend through the whole experience.

My midwife now has my new pregnancy notes smothered in fast labour haa, although I dont think it will be quite as quick this time.

Only 11 days until my 20 week anatomy scan :) so excited for finding out the gender, hopefully baby wont be stubborn like it's big sister was & we dont have to wait this time.
This pregnancy feels very different to the last, other then slightly raised bp and think my SPD is returning as my pelvis aches every morning and burns occasionally (had it bad from 18-35 wks with DD) im still feeling like im having a girl :) x

[ladylaura1990]

Essays was supposed to be Pessarys**

[fish2012]

Oh Thorz poor you xx

[Mum to three girls]

Thorz, OUCH! I agree with the others though, you are sooo petite. Southern, you're pretty tiny too. Can someone normal sized (lol) please post some bump pics to make me feel less huge?

Fish, I'm so pleased about your good news.

Shiningstar, it does sound trite, I know, but there"s something very special about your third same gender baby.

Nothern, I am thinking of you.

And hi to everyone else!

[Wanting-a-girl]

thorz thats not fun :( please update soon so i dont have to worry too long

good luck mel cant wait for your update!!!!! so exciting!!!!!

northern thinkin of you and your family today

[Salsa]

Just popped in to say I'm thinking of you Northern.
Thorz u poor thing!!! I hope it's not broken but sounds like it most probably is :-( and hope it feels better soon so your hips can cope.

[Southern Butterfly]

Thorz, hope you were able to get to the hospital this morning. Good luck and PLEASE take it easy after this!! No more tumbles for you missy lol.

Northern, You have never been far from my thoughts. I know we're across the ocean from one another but I very much feel as though you're next door. Today brings with it pain and sadness unimaginable to most of us but it's also the beginning of the healing process. Wish there was more I could do than just typing this.... :(

[Salsa]

Northern, I've just read your blog for today. For some reason it's not letting me comment at the end of each entry. Not sure if you're checking this also, but I felt compelled to write to you somehow. I sit here, tears flowing uncontrollably down my face. My heart is physically aching for you. I have a knot in my stomach, a lump in my throat. And I haven't stopped thinking of you all day. Praying you will feel strength from all of us. I wish beyond words there was someway to take this all away from you. I have no words to make this feel better. I'm so angry at that. I wish there was something I could do to help. Know that your beautiful baby girl will only know the joys of being eternally loved and the total feeling of security as she has been cradled in your womb for her short yet meaningful life. Her playful kicks and constant movement is proof of how much she loves you as her Mummy. She felt that bond you also feel. She may not legally be able to be registered. And I doubt I will ever meet you. But know that I will never forget your sweet little girl. She certainly exists in my life. She has touched my heart more than I ever expected her to. Sending you so much love x x x

[fish2012]

Northern thinking of you wishing there was anything we could do to make this any better xx

[Thorz300]

Went to the hospital, no break!! I sprained my foot and have to wear a lovely walking boot and use crutches, in lots of pain but relieved its a sprain instead of a break! Ugh no fun!
Thanks for all the well wishes!

[Wanting-a-girl]

they didnt give an u/s to check on the baby?

[Thorz300]

Nope they didn't even ask about the baby other than to ask if I could feel him yet, I told them he was moving and kicking at that moment, they just said oh great that's what we want to hear! I'm so tired, I only got 1 hour of sleep. I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to juggle my 3 boys, and all this new carpet chaos when I can't even walk! Boooo

[WantingPink]

Thorz so sorry you took a spill and now have a sprained ankle. Sprains can be more painful then breaks and it is going to take awhile to heal. With your ankle and hip I really feel for you. This gives you a good reason to rest and elevate your ankle. I guess the good news is if you walk on it you won't further injure it. I am sure you are in pain and can't take much for it which is a bummer!!

Northern I am thinking of you and can't even begin to imagine how you are dealing with all of this. I wish you peace and comfort and quick healing. You are in my thoughts constantly.

[Wanting-a-girl]

When is your mom coming to help you out? Hopfully soon! My friend fell down the stairs and sprained both ankles a couple weeks ago... Theres not much you can take for the pain either :(

[The Anchor]

Fish and Northern...there are no words, I am thinking of you both every minute. HUGS.

[Thorz300]

My mom will be here in 11 days, so that should really help out a lot!

[fish2012]

Northern just read your blog I'm sure she was so perfect and always will be all she's ever known is her parents love that's a lovely if sadly short life. So sad you could only love her for such a short time thinking of you hope physically things went okay xx

[Wanting-a-girl]

omg i need to vent as im a little hysterical right now and just made myself look like the craziest lunatic in the world...

i was sitting eating at the table and ds3 was watching dora in the living room... someone knocked on the door it was for ds1 so he answered the door and a few mins later i notice ds3 is not in the living room and i can see hw the light is shinning in the hallway that the front door is wide open i run out side and ds1 is on the driveway with a friend and ds3 no where to be seen at first glance... i start literally screaming at ds1 at the top of my lungs where is my baby!!! he ended up being in the backyard safe playing with a ball but thats not the point! he is a wanderer and does not have understanding of danger he is autistc and always wants to play on the busy road across the street so i died inside i couldnt breath or think... i still cant stop crying...

i grounded ds1 and lost my damn mind screamed like ive never screamed beforei told him i dont want to see him til tomorrow... there is no excuse he is 9 there is a rule that the door in this house is alway closed!! he is carless non stop and this just sent me over the edge my baby could have been killed...

[fish2012]

Oh wag poor you! How scary that must have been terrifying for you, and your poor ds1 I bet he won't make that mistake again!

Have a cuppa and a cuddle with your lill ones xx

[Wanting-a-girl]

Thanks fish... It's def one of those days where I wish I could have a smoke :s yuk!

Is grounding him to his room for the rest of the night too muc?... I can't bare the thought to even see him at this point...god I must sound like a terrible mother ur it's the truth...

[fish2012]

I dunno my oldest is 3 but I reckon the grounding might do it, you were probably too freaked to notice but he was probably terrified until you found ds3 too!

I know what you mean thou ds1 pushed ds2 off my bed this afternoon and I just saw red - will they ever stop being our babies ;-)

[Wanting-a-girl]

I hate punishing him... I like to try and be laid back with him... But lately I'm having so many problems with him... He's being so disrespectful.... Attitude like you wouldn't believe... Not following simple rules and he's doing bad in school... I'm at a loss of what to do with him In general... I'm getting really frusterated

[Southern Butterfly]

Northern, I also read your blog today. I don't know if you're even checking back here but I wanted you to know your sweet little Evelyn is beautiful. As Fish said, she knew nothing but love in her short time on earth. She is at peace now and heaven is lucky to have such a precious little angel.

[Wanting-a-girl]

She's very beautiful! Hope you are doing okay northern

[5boysandcounting]

Northern, I don't know if you will read this but I've been following your blog and you have been in my thoughts every day. Little Evelyn is so beautiful.

I am so very sorry for what you are going through. You are such a very strong lady. I hope you are doing ok and have plenty of support around you. x x

[Thorz300]

Oh Northern I think she is so beautiful and peaceful! Your story is very well written on your blog, I'm sure somewhere some how she knows just how loved she is!

[pebmcpd7]

What a loved wee girl northern, she is beautiful, wishing you and your hubby all the best!!

[coocoobananas]

I forget how I found this the other day but came back to see what folks were up to. I haven't posted since my sons birth the beginning of January. I remember your name northern from a while back, not sure if we communicated but I knew you were trying. Anyway, since I saw what was coming about, I have now checked daily and have thought of you lots!
I saw the picture of Evelyn and cried. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you and your family. I am so sorry for your loss. It must be so hard to understand. Just know you have a lot of hearts aching for you and your beautiful girl. Xoxo

[DLTAG89]

Northern i've been following your blog and your story is heartbreaking. Little Evelyn is just beautiful, thinking of you and your family at this sad time x

Wanting, glad you found your little boy safe. DS2 is a wonderer too and the amount of time i've turned round and hes gone. Its terrifying and you start thinking all sorts. I dont think you were too harsh on your DS1 either, i know i would have done the same thing.

Only 6 days till we find out now and i really think i'm going crazy. I'm having such strange dreams and day dreams. I'm panicing something might be wrong becuase i've had so many illness and virus's this pregnancy and If we get told boy i really dont know how i'm going to take it. Really hope the next 6 days pass quickly.

[ELP]

Northern, my heart is broken for you and your family xxxxxx

[fish2012]

Northern what a beautiful princess so sad were sending congratulations and sympathy on same day. Thank you for sharing your baby xxx

[Girlsway]

Hi Ladies, DS2 was diagnosed with slapped cheek virus which is harmless in children but dangerous in pregnancy. I was referred for blood tests on Monday to check if I caught it. Pregnancy is a constant worry.

[True Blue]

Northern Evelyn Rose is so very beautiful :heart:
All my love and thoughts are with you and your family.

[True Blue]

Girlsway I had the same scare very recently, blood test came back with immunity from past infection & no sign of recent infection. I still worry.

[Wanting-a-girl]

O girlsway that's very scary!

[fish2012]

Oh girl sway fx for you my toxo results are due back Monday too

Fx hun xx

[Wanting-a-girl]

I can't wait for your results fish! Can't stop thinking of you...

[Girlsway]

Fish good luck on Monday, I have my fx for you. X

[fish2012]

Thanks ladies ugh I never realised how blessedly stress free my last two preggies were!

[Rosie85]

Rip beautiful Evelyn Rose. :Angel:

[atomic sagebrush]

Thinking of you and remembering Evelyn Rose :heart:

[Longingforgirl]

I am so sorry, I just came back to my parents from my in-laws, I didn't have any internet access.

I was thinking about you all Friday long, wondering how it was all going. And I was so sad all day long.

Now I just started to read your blog, but I simply cannot do it right now, sitting here with family who I cannot talk to about this.. I already have tears filling up my eyes. I am so terribly sorry and have no words. You are in my thoughts all the time and I cannot imagine the pain you are going through. Your little girl looks so perfect and yet she was so sick, it is so unbelievable.

I will be writing and reading more on Monday when we are back home. I just wanted to say how sorry I am. :tissue:

[ladylaura1990]

I'm new to the sites and just wondering how to make a blog and access others, can anyone help thank you. Also thinking of you Northern x

[Girlsway]

Northern I read your blog, it's heartbreaking. Evelyn rest in peace xxx

[Longingforgirl]

Fish and also Girlsway, wishing you both very good luck for tomorrow!! I am hoping for good news tomorrow...!!!

Thorz, oh no, poor you!! That must really hurt. Great that your mom can help you out!

WAG, oh no, that must have scared the hell out of you!! I would have been the same! DS2 is the same, he doesen't care about anything, always in his own world. He does know the rules, but it's like as if they just don't apply for him. He is not thinking at all and that drives me so crazy. The other day, he just started running when we got out of the hotel. The street there is huge, so many cars and trucks driving by, and he literally only looks just in front of his feet. He doesen't see anything that is one foot away from him. Ugh!
We are at a children's psychologist every other week because of him. But I am not sure if "only" that is going to help. He is so in his own world.

Northern, always thinking about you and your family. :sad: Evelyn Rose is so beautiful!!! It is so heartbreaking. :sad:

[fish2012]

Northern lovely picture of Evelyn, couldn't work out the link but will try later thinking of you xx

[Honeychild]

I'm back from a trip away and I was going to try and do a general catch up, but I've just been reading your blog Northern, and sitting here in floods of tears, wishing there was something I could say that would ease even a tiny bit of your heartbreak. Evelyn is beautiful. She has touched all our hearts and we will remember her.

[Mel1983]

Just had my scan at 17 1/2 weeks and lady said she thinks a girl, there were 3 bright lines on potty shot. She didn't give me a copy of the shot though so I can't post it. Can't quite believe it , I have 2 boys already and never imagined I would ever hear the words Girl!!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Congrats Mel!

Ya ds1 drive me insane literally... It's sad cause I always feel so mad at him cause it's always one thing after another it never ends... It's straining my mother son relationship with him cause I feel like I can barley stand him sometimes... I expect him to be good and listen and be respectful ... I tell him all the time he takes advantage of his mental health and should thank god for being a normal boy cause his brother will never be able to have normalcy... I feel maybe I'm harder on him because of that

[fish2012]

Mel congrats that's great 17.5 week should be fairly clear congrats yeah fx for a healthy lill lady

Wag I think maybe we're all harsh on our first borns ;-) as my ds1 now 3 n 4 months I expect him to be really grown up as he was only 15 months when ds2 was born and I couldn't cope with two babies! Now I see 15 month olds (and my own ds2 who's nearly two) and think hmmm I was probably still am hard in him! Oh we'll all evidence suggests first borns have lots of advantages maybe high expectations is good for them!

don't stress as an only child I find the whole treating equally but different hard to get my head around but this is even more true for you where your ds2 has more difficulties to over come , if you were a bad mum you wouldn't be self aware enough to notice! Xx

[Northern_Shutterbug]

Thank you all for your messages of kindness. I'm sorry but I can't keep coming back, I'm really struggling and missing my baby girl so much, coming here reminds me of the joys that should have been.

Good luck to you all. Fish, I hope things go well for your little girl, I wouldn't wish our experience on my worst enemy and hope none of you ever have to go through it. At the moment I feel I'm in a hole and honestly don't feel strong enough to get out.

Best of luck x

[pebmcpd7]

Big hugs to you and your family northern, I will pray for you.

[fish2012]

Northern I understand how you feel i have felt the same myself and my situation has not yet got anywhere near as bad as yours honey,
love and prayers to you and your family - you know where we are if there is anything we can do for you let us know

So sorry for you xxxxx

[Wanting-a-girl]

Sorry for your loss northern and I totally understand you not coming back... We are all thinking of you

[divakotka]

Hi everyone, we made it to Luxembourg on Friday after a long and exhausting plane ride but everything went smoothly. Still quite jet lagged and trying to adjust to everything here with our two little boys. I'm enjoying all the food though that I haven't had in over 4 years. :) I haven't been able to really catch up on here except I read Northern's blog and am so completely heartbroken for her. And what I am feeling is just an infinitesimal fraction of her pain. These things are so unfair. :(

I have to go and catch up on sleep but I do miss being able to come on here more easily and regularly.

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[divakotka]

Flying in that C-17 was quite the adventure but having to wear ear protection the entire time was tough! The boys did really well though. 10922

[Wanting-a-girl]

I'm having a very hard time thinking of a middle name for Lennon... I want something that's 3-4 letters cause we hyphenate the last names cause I refuse to give mine up cause ds1 isn't dhs s. and there was no legal adoption to give him the same last name and me and DH are not married so I refuse to have my children not have my last name and and have different name than ds1....bot of our last names are 6 letters so it's quite a mouthful lol

[Mum to three girls]

Northern, your blog is heart breaking. Go gently.

[Mum to three girls]

I'm having a very hard time thinking of a middle name for Lennon... I want something that's 3-4 letters cause we hyphenate the last names cause I refuse to give mine up cause ds1 isn't dhs s. and there was no legal adoption to give him the same last name and me and DH are not married so I refuse to have my children not have my last name and and have different name than ds1....bot of our last names are 6 letters so it's quite a mouthful lol

Hmmm, you prob couldn't use "John". Max?

Good luck for test results, Girlsway and Fish.

Congrats Mel!

Diva, that looks quite an adventure. My big girls would love it.

I agree about being harder on the first. I expect much more from DD1 than DD2 in terms of behaviour etc and they're only a year apart.

My anatomy scan is in a week and a half and I'm getting nervous. I think Northern has reminded us all that a healthy baby is the most important thing.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Ds1 has middle name jean (French John) and if I did do John people would think that he's def named after John Lennon lmao I like to name my kids after family members but now thatmim on boy number four its a tad difficult altho ds2 middle name is abel just cause I like it Ezra's middle name is lee... I suggested using my dads name (Frankie) but DH got jealous and it is too long but his dads name is Antonio and I dont want a Spanish name... Hes Portuguese... In the end it will be what I want he has no naming power... I kind of like Avery but people say its a girl name lil

Sorry I know I ramble on and on..l.


Good luck tomorrow fish I will anxiously be waiting to hear

Good luck girlsway! I'm thinking theres a good chance you could have had fifths back years ago and u won't be affected now

[Salsa]

Blah I have 3 sick kiddos :-( it's certainly exhausting. I'm not 100% either and have no energy at the best of times this pregnancy!

Fish-I'm thinking of you today, I have everything crossed you hear good news.

Diva-that does look like quite an adventure! How awesome!
Your boys look so cute sitting up in their carseats in a big cargo plane lol

Wag-I agree, I also like Max. I do like Avery but I do know a girl with this name. No rule to say it can't be used for a boy though! We have all our kids middle names from family members. My DD middle name is Jane after my middle name, DS1 has both grandfathers first names as his middle names, and DS2 hash DH first name as his middle name. If we have a girl this time her middle name will be Lyn after both grandmothers. If its another boy it will be Eric after my great grandfather who died in wwII

[fish2012]

Wag max is cute? Our boys have family middle names so never given it that much thought ;-)

Diva what an adventure!

Salsa poor you sick kids are no fun ;-s

[WantingPink]

Northern I think everyone understands you not wanting to visit this page. I hope you know you and Evelyn are in our thoughts and wish you and your family peace.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Dear Northern, I am so very sorry for your precious loss. I read your story and I just cried and now I feel sick. I cannot fathom what you have been through, you are such a sweet lady, and one I consider my friend on GD. I really care about you and I wish that I could throw my arms around you, I mean really..
:tissue: It's so NOT fair! And you do not deserve to go through such pain and despair. Please remember that you are a terrific mamma! Please stay strong, and don't give up and remember how much you are loved here. I truly believe that after the storms pass a rainbow will find you. :HH: xx

~Butterfly

[Longingforgirl]

I am so sorry for your loss Northern! I have no words. I so wish you a lot of strength and supporting lovely people around you to go through this painful time. And I hope you will be able to hold her one more time as you wish to do.

Thinking about you!



Fish and Girlsway, crossing my fingers for both of you for today!!!

[DLTAG89]

Diva wow, looks amazing and your boys look so cute sat in the front of the plane. Hope your having a great time and enjoy the yummy food. Have fun!

Wanting i know what you mean about names, me and DH had a nightmare with names as we never agree. Both boys have 2 middle names each and all 4 of the middle names are after family members. Having only a small family we ran out of names/family members if this one is a boy but we have gone with Luca which is after me :D (Lucy)

Fish, thinking of you today and praying you hear good news from your results

Salsa, hope your 3 little ones get well soon and also you dont catch it. Its horrible when they arnt well, hugs.

Only 4 days till my 20 week scan now and i'm soo nervous but soo excited. I hope this week goes quick :nails:

[Thorz300]

Good luck today Fish and Girlsway, keep us updated!

Ugh I think I gained 5 lbs just over the weekend! I couldn't move much because of the sprained foot, and my appetite was out of control. I had pizza for breakfast lunch and dinner for 3 days and lots of candy and cereal! OMG I had no self control! Still don't look pregnant, just like I've been eating pizza for breakfast, lunch, and dinner lol. I need this baby belly to pop out asap! Im tired of feeling fat, i want to feel pregnant.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Omg I'm sitting here at 9 am wanting to have baked potatoes lmao I don't know how long I can hold off ;) so far I've had half a mini watermelon, a granola bar, glass of choc milk.... I really want some potatoes mmmm the sad thing is I will make 3 or 4 and eat them all at once with butter and a mountain of shredded cheese... I'm very happy yo be able to enjoy eating again that's for sure... Morning sickness kicked my ass :(

How much has everyone gained so far... I've gained 11 and 7 of those were in the last 30 days lmao

[Salsa]

I've gained more than I want to admit!! But am pretty much the same weight I was for my last 3 pregnancies at this time. Which means I've put on the most with this pregnancy because my starting out weight was about 8kgs less than the other times!! Hehe oops!
Well I'm 21 wks and only feeling the odd flutter still..... Getting frustrated!! I really want to feel this baby move its so comforting and puts a smile on my face. I know my placenta is anterior, infact I've only had one pregnancy with the placenta posterior (and felt movements from 15wks) so anyway, I just wish the kicks would get a bit stronger by now... I was hoping once I felt baby move more it would make me feel more connected and not so concerned about finding out the gender!!! Hmmmmm....

[Wanting-a-girl]

O that would suck :( I can see my stomach move when he kicks and rolls and he has been getting the hiccups too
My baby is the most active one I've had by far... I have never been woken up from fetal movement and the past few days he's been waking me a bit.... I don't mind :) its comforting....

He sometimes faces my back and I can feel him kick towards the back


Btw I also like my for a middle name possibility I will ask DH ... I've already asked him about pax, and Kai and kale

[Southern Butterfly]

Congratulations Mel!!!! So happy for you:cheer:

Thorz- Glad you're staying off your foot and resting your hips. Eat all the pizza and candy you want, you need some meat on those bones!

DLTA- Good luck at your scan! That's so exciting. Hopefully the next few days go by quickly for you!

Fish and Girlsway- Any news on your results??? Hoping for happy updates from you both!!

Diva- What a cool experience for your boys, love the pics!!

Salsa- Sorry you have 3 sick kids! That's tough juggling them all being sick at the same time. Hope everyone gets better soon.

WAG- Our kids all have family middle names as well. If there aren't any other family names you would like to use then a few suggestions I like are: Lennon James, Lennon Grey, Lennon Grant, Lennon Jace, Lennon Owen, Lennon Gage, Lennon Colt, Lennon Trace, Lennon Theo, Lennon Cole, Lennon Wyatt, Lennon Wayne, Lennon Chase...

[Thorz300]

I have gained around 9 lbs, I'm not certain because I have one of those old school scales that use a needle and only really tell you the exact weight every 20 lbs. We need a digital one so I can be certain. Ugh ladies, I might need some help. After getting all the new carpet and rugs for our living and dining room, I have realized that I absolutely HATE the paint color that I have in my front room. It was supposed to be a light blueish grey but it ended up very baby blue. I think I want to paint it a very light cream neutral color because we will be selling it in two years. What color would you paint it...???10936
This is an old pic just after I put the floors in, but since then I have put a little furniture in it. but DS3 is having a melt down, so I'll have to take a pic of the current state of the room at nap time.

Ok here are the more current pics, but the blue is more blue than it appears. I think if it was actually the color it appears in the pics I might think of keeping it. (don't mind the dresser with missing hardware will be fixed. Atm everything is a work in progress)
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[WantingPink]

Thorz I feel your pain with the paint colors. I repainted our family room and dining room after I painted them because I hated the color once it was on the wall. I think you should stick blue however, if it is more like the blue in the first picture then it is a little to bright. I think the blue should come close to matching the blue you have in the couch. Blue is a hard color to pick out. It almost needs to look grey on the paint sample. The blue I painted DS2 room is a very muted blue/grey and on the paint chip you can only tell it is blue when you compare it to grey. On the wall though there is no mistaking it is blue. Right now I am in the process of picking a color for the baby's room and it is difficult. I am going purple however, I want it to be a very muted grey/purple which is hard to find. You never really know what they color is going to look like in your home until you put it on your walls. I have a love hate relationship with painting:)

[WantingPink]

Fish and Girlsway hope everything is okay... waiting for an update!

[Thorz300]

LOL I actually really like the color of it in the pics but depending on the time of day and the amount of natural light in the house, it can look really blue. I have the perfect grey in the bedrooms, but I don't want to do the same color in the living area too. I am terrible at picking paint colors. The color in our dining room is awful too. It was supposed to be a light cream/beige color but it is really pink in some lights. If I repaint the living and dining area, I want to be CERTAIN it is the right color, because I am so tired of painting!! This is the color I am thinking of painting it to lighten up my house because I don't have a lot of natural light in my house and it gets dark in the evening.10951

I'm not very brave with color plus since we are moving in 2 years we will have to resale and bold colors don't really work for that....Ugh my whole house still needs work and we have been here for a year and a half already, I don't feel like I have even one room complete!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

We built our house 3 years ago and the walls are all white still except I exparementied in my main floor bathroom with red lol....I'm not a painter that's one thing I have learned lol! And DH is to lazy to fix it up... I've tried... There Ted all over the roof :s... I want to get the house painted but I find it hrd with the open concept cause I just can't do one room at a time cause they all flow together so mainly I guess I would need to pic two similar colors and do contrasting...

[fish2012]

I don't weight myself when I'm preggie but I'm massive and can't stop eating ;-( think it partly dealing with loose of lill twin and all the stress we've had - I ten to either not eat all when stressed or eat a lot as I know I have to eat I think it's getting extreme ;-(

Thorz I like the colour but lot sure its a living room colour .... Just had ours painted dull old cream but its so light and fresh!

Stop press I may have good news! 9 week bloods positive for past infection but not current! Going to another lab for confirmation results on thurs fx but looks like we've finally got a break! Can't quiet believe it!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I like greys that's all I can set my mind on...I also want to do a backsplash in the kitchen! DH promised that it would get done right away... Three years later..... We also have bamboo hard wood that was supposed to be put in and its been sitting in the garage for three years,.... It's so frusterating

[Wanting-a-girl]

Omg fish that is awesome news!

[Thorz300]

Yay Fish that is so exciting!!! what a relief!

WAG thats gotta be rough, I start projects all the time and then don't finish them. It drives my husband nuts. But If i sat around waiting for him to do them, they would never get done, so I always start them and then get to a point where I need his help and then stop, and then we have a half finished projects. Like the baseboards in our house, I installed the base boards but got to a couple spots where i couldn't get the cuts right, so now we have half finished baseboards in the kitchen and bathroom. LOL one day we will complete it all

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol only if he could lol... God I got him to change a light bulb the one day omg I would have proffered to rip my hair out! He comes from a Portuguese family he's the youngst and was babied beyond belief and now I'm the one paying for his mothers mothering! I'm quite handy aside from painting cause I grew up with avery handy father who can fix and complete anything it seemed like... Its a matter of making him buy what I need... Cause the other side of coming from that Portuguese family made hi. Extremely cheap! Where as I would see money burn holes in her pocket buying prada purses lol... We are very different from very different upbringings and it def makes us clash ALOT lol...

[Thorz300]

Well, I usually find that you end up balancing each other out. I am very compulsive and when I get an Idea I want to do it NOW! DH wants to weigh everything out and plan it all out. I am very frugal though and DH likes to spend money on nice stuff, when I prefer to buy it second hand. I win on that one, so almost everything is bought off of craigslist in our house, or even free off the side of the road lol. But I LOVE to fix things up or I wouldn't get so much used stuff, because it never looks good when I first get it. DH HATES PAINTING and doesn't like me to paint, because he knows I am never happy with the color and always want to change it. So I always paint while he is at work. Because I know he will like it once it is done. We tend to balance each other out though.

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol maybe I have never painted my house because I swear to god growing up with my mother our house lost square footage from how often she changed the colors... Lol

I have become a lot more frugal in the past few years lol! When I only had ds1 I would get everythg from pottery barn and he was always very well dressed I was crazy I would spend 40 bucks on a sleeper! Never would I do that now! I havnt even stepped foot I. A pottery barn in many years... For this baby I bought a swing that was used and very dirty but its the same one I paid 200 for Ezra but I sold it thinking he was my last baby... Well I got this one for 30 bucks! Lol I will be able to sell it for 80! I just had to spray it wit stain spray... I will also buy pants from the gently used store for ds1 cause he is so rough on clothes ... So I have learned a lot

Since your so handy thorz I was wondering cause my cats when they were kittens destroyed our leather kitchen chairs and ottamon :( is that even able to be re done?

[DLTAG89]

wow thorz your house is so lovely. I love the colours but then i love any colour on walls as we have been in rented houses for the past 5 years and EVERY house and EVERY wall has been magnolia. I would give anything to paint just 1 wall and add a splash of colour to some rooms but we are not allowed to paint. Hows your hip and foot doing?

Fish so so glad you got good news :bighug:

[Girlsway]

Fish thats great news!!! Congrats.

They couldn't take my blood today at the end, but will do tomorrow morning. The results won't be till next week but doctor was quite positive the virus shouldn't cause any harm at this stage of pregnancy. It's a shame I don't quite believe it.

Thorz I love your house design!

[WantingPink]

Glad you got good news Fish... I hope that puts your mind at ease and you can enjoy your pregnancy a little more!!

[Thorz300]

WAG it can probably be reupholstered quite easily. Reupholstering seems overwhelming but it is actually quite easy.

DLTAG thanks! I can totally understand, that would be really hard if I wasn't able to paint. Have you looked into putting fabric on the walls? It is kind off like wallpaper but comes of cleanly. You can find what ever cool patterned fabric or sheet you like and use it like wallpaper. I have been wanting to try this actually, and might do it in my dining room eventually.

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That isn't wallpaper it is fabric that comes right off. Here is a link that tells you how to do it

Fabric for Wallpaper (http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-to-make-removable-fabric-w-74483)

[Mel1983]

Fish really happy for u!! So chuffed u had good news!

Wag my little boys first name is Kai.

I'm still in denial about my scan, been looking on the Internet which I shouldn't have! I'm so worried they have it wrong. I was 17.5 days in the scan so I'll have another scan 20 weeks, I'm just terrified they'll say boy next time! I could see 3 white lines. But could the winky have been hiding? I thought if I actually heard girl I would be over the moon but instead I just feel like it might be wrong. I'm excited but don't want to be too much just incase! Anybody think I'm being silly? Do u think it could be right?

[DLTAG89]

Thorz thats amazing, I've never heard of it before will defo be giving it a go :) It will be so nice to have a bit of colour in the house. Ill prob end up going mad and doing a feature wall in every room but will give it a go in the boys room first as we have just bought them a new bed and tried to make it more boyish but this is great. Thank you :D

Girlsway good luck tomorrow, I will be thinking about you. Its good that the doc was positive tho but sometimes i find them a little hard to believe to.

[Thorz300]

BOOOO my OB's office just called and she is going out of town so they had to move my scan to the 16th instead of the 10th. I'm bummed....Oh well not much I can do about it :(

[Wanting-a-girl]

O,g that fabric wall paper looks really cool I might have to try that

Thorz thats terrible I have been waiting for your scan! Anticipation is killing me...

[fish2012]

Girl sway I know what you mean but I've decided I believe it when it's bad news so I have to when its good too otherwise I'll go looney ;-)

[Thorz300]

I've been counting down the days too, and now I have to wait an extra week :(

My foot and hips are in bad shape, but I've been able to walk a bit today because of the walking boot they gave me.

Mel, I don't think you have much to worry about because it should be pretty obvious to the tech by 17.5 weeks. But I understand the worry. I probably would do the same thing.

[Mel1983]

Thorz my scans the 15th day before yours. Hope the next two weeks goes fast for us! Think our due dates are similar too!

[fish2012]

Mel I know how you feel we were told girl at 15wks, girl at 16 wks and at 20 wks I had a horrible sonographer who said she couldn't be sure and now I'm worrying..... I have now had 7 scans and never ever seen a Boy bit! 3 of my scans have been full anatomy scans over 45min not a willy in sight but..... Still don't think I'll believe until I see it ;-)

Enjoy your girl darling 20 wk will confirm either way unless you get the cow I got which I doubt lol!

[Southern Butterfly]

Fish, so happy for the good news YAY!

Girlsway, Glad you're doctor is optimistic. Hopefully bloods will confirm it for you.

WAG, I really like Lennon Kai! Hopefully your DH will be on board. We're still up in the air about a first name. Our top 3 keeps changing but for now it's between Sage, Shiloh and Shepard and middle names Julian and Holland.

Thorz, BOOOOOO about your scan! I too have been anxiosuly waiting for the 10th. Any chance you can schedule it before your doc goes out of town:wink:
You have great style and motivation Thorz! We have slowly plugged away at some projects in anticipation of listing our house soon but I'm not as ambitious as you! I do look forward to starting fresh and decorating a new house though.

While your hobby is very productive, mine has been costly... I have been shopping so much for this baby!! I like to get new things for each baby and this being our last I have really enjoyed it. Here are a couple of things I got recently (I know we're all due in Sept but I'm kind of assuming I'll end up with a summer baby, hence the onesies and rompers)

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Anyone else have some baby purchases to share?

[Mel1983]

Thanks fish nice to have you get bk to me. I also had a gender reading, wish so much I had never had them now, but one from stormy said I'd have another boy but I'd probably think it was a girl and even my ultrasound would say girl but the would be wrong! Wish I hadn't had that as its playing on my mind. Roll on 2 weeks ! Does your little one gave 3 bright lines ?

[fish2012]

the 16 wk scan was pretty clear tbh it was a gender scan and she took her time and was sure as soon as she looked! yeah you could see 3 lines!

southern love your bits i don't think i'll buy anything until baby is born ;-S

[4Giffins]

Congrats Fish!! Thats great news!
Love the outfits Northern..I cant wait to start shopping as well. We live in a small town though so I have a couple weekends to wait until I can take a trip out and start spending money!! :) I cant wait, I have been doing lots of internet browsing in the mean time! I did purchase the car seat I had been eyeing last week..the same day I found out! Lol..it hasnt arrived yet but here is a pic of it! 10956
Do share what you have bought for your little ones..love seeing baby stuff!

[Thorz300]

Ugh I cannot get off of pinterest today, am I the only one who gets stuck on there and lives in a dream world, pretending I'm one day going to make or accomplish everything I pin!!!

[Thorz300]

Cute stuff ladies, I don't think I'll buy any clothes until just before this guy is born. I am doing my shopping and spending my time and money one his nursery first.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I have the britax chaperone infant car seat and stroller in cow print... The stroller sucks! Waste of 600 bucks to say the least... I love the car seat

I love britax car seats! I have the advocate in cow print for ds3 and I'm going to get him the new Fronteir I think it is...

[Mum to three girls]

Everyone's shopping and decorating makes me feel lazy. I am a bit superstitious and don't buy new clothes until I'm about 36 weeks, and with DD3 only 14 months we don't need any new baby "stuff" - except maybe a double stroller, we've an old one from when DD1 and DD2 were little but it had pump up wheels that are pretty wrecked now. I'll give DH an ultimatum later - either he fixes them PROPERLY or we get a new one.

I am in such a grumpy mood today. I weighed myself which started it - I've put on 5-6 kg already and I really really want to keep my total weight gain to around 15 kg. I don't eat as well when Im pregnant but overall we're still pretty healthy but it's the lack of hard running that does it, I think. Plus, I never have severe MS so I eat my way through the first trimester. I'm going to start watching the crappy carbs (she says, eating crackers and cheese). I can't run when I'm pregnant and I don't want to do much more than I'm doing which is already loads of park trips, carrying the baby etc as my hips and symphysis pubis are getting a bit achey already.

I'm also grumpy cos no one slept well last night - half way through the night I left and went into the spare room but DH later got up to the baby who is teething and DD1 who wet the bed for the first time in ages so he (not unreasonably) woke me up when the baby woke again so he could have another 45 minutes before work.

My placenta is anterior too (is it Salsa who also has one?) so I do feel movements but nothing like the previous ones and I do miss that reassurance.

Thorz, I feel disappointed that your scan isn't the same day as mine anymore! I know it must be emotionally hard not 100% knowing the gender but, based on what the tech said at your last scan, I wouldn't decorate the nursery blue just yet.

Anyway, the baby is asleep so I might put my feet up and hope that it improves my sulks!

[fish2012]

Mum 23 mines anterior too quiet a relief only found that out last scan and had been thinking it was just fat sitting on top of bubba! This last week I've started feeling really strong movements I'm 21+5wks now sorry on phone can't see your siggie but think maybe your a week behind me so fx you'll start feeling more soon

I need a new travel system cause I sold the buggy base when we found out it was twins dho! I'd quiet like to de boy the nursery it's trains and boats ;-) and then there's clothes..... But I'm with you mum23 I'm not gonna buy anything for.a while which having waited so long for something not blue is a bit sad ;-s

[DLTAG89]

We havnt really bought anything yet only the pram (and that was only becuase it was super cheap at the time). I dont know if i like it thought so might end up selling it and buying new again, its very big and comes into a million pieces.

We have a few bits from when the boys were babies but if we are having a girl i want to go pink mad. Would you girls reccommed we buy new bottles too. We have DS2's and they are in good condition but not sure if they will be ok to use??

Cant wait to start buying some little bits, only 3 days till my scan now.

[fish2012]

I used same bottles for ds1 and ds2 but they were only 15 months apart and they were breastfed so it was only for occasional expressed feeds not every day. This time I was thinking of chucking the teats and keeping the bottles again! Is that okay?!? Will only be for occasional feeds again when I want to leave bubba for more than 2hrs way preggie has gone I may never want to do that! ;-s

[Mum to three girls]

Mum 23 mines anterior too quiet a relief only found that out last scan and had been thinking it was just fat sitting on top of bubba! This last week I've started feeling really strong movements I'm 21+5wks now sorry on phone can't see your siggie but think maybe your a week behind me so fx you'll start feeling more soon

I need a new travel system cause I sold the buggy base when we found out it was twins dho! I'd quiet like to de boy the nursery it's trains and boats ;-) and then there's clothes..... But I'm with you mum23 I'm not gonna buy anything for.a while which having waited so long for something not blue is a bit sad ;-s

Thanks Fish, that's reassuring. I'm only 18 weeks now so I'll try to stop worrying about it. So different from the others though!

[Mum to three girls]

Re the bottles: they should be fine, I would think. I'm like Fish and have only used for occasional expressing but I've used the same breast pump stuff over and over again. As long as it's properly sterilised it should be ok.

[Mel1983]

Do you think I should be worrying about my stormy reading? I am and I wish I wasn't! I've just been told at my scan they think its a girl. I am in shock! Just looked bk at my readings, my stormy one says that everyone will think I'm having a girl even my scan but it will be a boy! Wish I never had the reading now! There were three bright lines in the scan and the 2 ladies in the room seemed confident to say girl. Does anybody know of girl potty shots turning out to be boys? Can't get it out of my head!

[fish2012]

Mum 23 yeah it's wired but I now get movement you can feel from outside which is nice as dh can feel and I know it's not just in my head lol!

Mel know idea what a stormy reading is sounds like rubbish IMO ;-) no offence! Scan is medical and they tend not to say if they aren't sure how many days till your twenty week scan like 15? Hold on nearly there!

[Mum to three girls]

Do you think I should be worrying about my stormy reading? I am and I wish I wasn't! I've just been told at my scan they think its a girl. I am in shock! Just looked bk at my readings, my stormy one says that everyone will think I'm having a girl even my scan but it will be a boy! Wish I never had the reading now! There were three bright lines in the scan and the 2 ladies in the room seemed confident to say girl. Does anybody know of girl potty shots turning out to be boys? Can't get it out of my head!

I'm not superstitious so if it looked like a girl it most likely is! Do you have any pics? I'm good at recognising girly bits on scans (lol).

[Mel1983]

My next scan is the 15th so not too long even thou it feels like ages! No I didn't get pics she showed me the potty shot but for sum reason she didn't give me a copy of it, I should have asked really! It's was definitely 3 bright lines close together, the shot was taken above her bottom as baby was head down so she had a good potty shot. My partners convinced its a girl I think it's just me that can't quite believe it

[Wanting-a-girl]

People need to not put so much thought. Into these readings...mthey are just people trying to make a buck... If they told you that you were going to win the lottery tomorrow I highly doubt people would quit their jobs lol... Just sit back and relax :)

[Mel1983]

I'm trying to! Wish I never had any readings! Feel stupid really for doing it!

[Wanting-a-girl]

Lol I did two of the free ones from different emails just o see what they would say... I don't believe much in the hocus pocus stuff... And they each gave me very different readings... Apparently my friend who is not pregnant is having a boy in August according to Rebecca lol

Don't feel stupid... Just relax :)

[Longingforgirl]

Huuh.. Fish, that is such great news!!! Is everything ok now with your little girl? I mean do you still depend on other scans or so? Are you reassured? I hope everything will be alright and you will end up with a healthy girl in September..!!!

Thorz, what a beautiful home you have! Oh I am so the opposite. I unfortunately am so uncreative!! Have found a hobby though now - baking, lol. I just copy other cakes from the internet, lol. Cake is in the oven for Noah's birthday party on Friday. I really hope I can get a pirate ship out of it, lol. Still, it is not very productive, lol. It is going to be eaten and gone afterwards, lol. But so much work! :drama:
We also just live for rent. I guess we will be moving again sometime at the end of the year I suppose. I would soo much love to emigrate. But it's not easy to convince DH. I had trouble already getting him out of his small home town when he was 26 years old. Lol.

What is pinterest, may I ask? Never heard of it.

I have gained a lot in this pregnancy as well. And I don't understand how this is happening, I am eating more healthy than I have ever eaten before (for such a "long" period of time). So weird. In 4 weeks, we are going on vacation to the Canary Islands, planning to go to the beach a lot. But with those elephant legs I am having...?! Lol. I am so ashamed!!!

Mel, oh no, I totally understand your worries! I did not have a reading but I so easily get superstitious, lol. So I am glad I haven't had a reading. I am crossing my fingers for you.
I also have to look again at each scan if it still is a girl. Lol. So crazy. If it was proven to be a boy I would totally believe it. But this seems so surreal.

Those are such cute outfits!!! We live in a very small town and I have only bought stuff on Ebay. Those small outfits still look like new and I assume I can buy more if I buy it used on Ebay, lol. Haven't bought anything since the tech assumed heart problems though. I feel like I can relax now, but I also feel like I already have almost everything. I went so crazy shopping during those 2 or 3 weeks, lol! We also still need a carseat. We still have a stroller which is 5 years old and almost falling apart. But I guess I will be using a carrier much more often anyway.

Are you all still reading Northern's blog? I feel so sorry for her and it makes me so sad. And also worried that something might still happen. :sad:

[Wanting-a-girl]

Yes I am following her blog.... I will keep my real opinion to myself about it ... But I pray for her sake that there was something indeed wrong with that baby to make her able to come to peace with doing that.,, Im thinking there is not as much wrong with her as what was thought! And maybe should have done more testing before and waited for the results...

I hate writing online you can read tones... I don't want to come accross the wrong way... I'm sad for the baby! She doesn't have what she was told she had... Could this have been a fix where baby is born and aomething like a shunt is used to drain fluid? I don't envy her and am very sad for her loss... But there are a lot of buts in this situation

[Longingforgirl]

Wanting, I feel the very same way, I feel like there should have been more testing. I cannot know what I would have done in her situation of course, but I feel like I would have wanted to know all the truth before making a "final" decision. If it will turn out that it all could have been fixed, I think the pain and regret is unbearable. I hope this is not going to happen, but I also feel like it wasn't as bad as they had told her. :sad:

I think I know what you mean. There are a lot of buts which is very sad because I feel like she did not see this clearly and might realize this now, feeling guilty and regretful. Horrible :sad:

[Thorz300]

OMG Pinterest is like a virtual pin or bulletin board where you pin ideas or things you like then you can go back to it later. I pin lots of recipes and DIY projects, so when I want a new recipes I just go to my recipe pins.

Making birthday cakes is productive for sure!! It really is harder work than people think. I make cakes for my boys every year. Here are some pics (http://myrags2riches.blogspot.com/2011/12/birthday-cake-time.html) of some of the cakes I've done for the boys! It's fun but time consuming so I only do it for birthdays! I so badly wanted to start doing girl cakes but it looks like I will always do boy cakes.

[Wanting-a-girl]

I don't know what I would do either... I know there would have been a lot of testing and results that's for sure! I catch and release flies.. I feel like I'm not a decision maker in that part of the scheme of life... .... ....

[Thorz300]

I agree ladies, it is so sad! I feel just terrible for her, my heart truly hurts when I read her words

[Wanting-a-girl]

I cant believe you havnt heard of pinterest lol

So many things I have tried and failed at lmao

[Longingforgirl]

Lol, I guess now I know what it is. Just a totally different word here, lol. Ok now I can say I have sooooo many things on there but I don't get to do a lot. Lol. Many cakes on it these days, lol.

Your cakes look sooo great Thorz!!! Johannes' third birthday is coming up as well in 2 weeks and I am also planning Lightning McQueen. He LOVES Cars. But those cakes look just awesome!!! I just purchased the book from Lindy Smith and am just now learning on how to work with fondant. People still have no idea about what fondant is over here, lol. Making such cakes is very uncommon and people look at me like as if I'm crazy doing that.

[Longingforgirl]

Thorz, I love your site!! Such a beautiful family!! :agree: The boys are so cute! Your little one will be such a wonderful addition :HH:

[Wanting-a-girl]

Is heavy lifting okay? I dont do much lifting cause I usually make DH do it cause my back and I'm pregnant but I asked him to bring the dresser up from the basement so I can move Ezra's clothes Into it so I can put baby clothes in the cap hangs table dresser... Anyways that was three weeks ago and nothing I've brought all the drawers up and today I brought it from the basement to the main floor but I need to bring it up one more floor I'm guessing it's between 30-50 pounds and I don't lift it I push/pull it up I'm going to take a break before I bring it up the next set... But in reality I am alway carrying ezra and he's 35 pounds

[Longingforgirl]

I honestly think that it's ok. As long as you don't feel like something is wrong or getting contractions already I guess it's ok. I am carrying my little ones around all the time as well. It's just not realistic to completely avoid that, especially with siblings. I try to avoid it though as well, especially because of my back. Sometimes I cannot even walk anymore as it hurts really a lot. :sad:

[DLTAG89]

Ok i've come up with a theory, it may be a little crazy tho but you never know.

I've been suffering with terrible headaches this pregnancy and i didnt with the boys. I used to take the pill which is full of hormones and lots of estrogen but had to stop taking it due to bad headaches. I went onto the progesterone only pill and they stopped so it turns out the estrogen was what was causing the headaches. I've had a read about hormones in pregnancy and your body makes more estrogen if your carrying a girl. I hope my crazy thoery is right :)

Thorz them cakes are great, i can just about strech to making cupcakes with DS1 :D

[Longingforgirl]

DLTAG, I like your theory :happy: It doesen't sound crazy at all and I am crossing my fingers for you!!

[Wanting-a-girl]

I am getting bad headaches this preg too! They're terrible they wake me up at night! Also when I had my mirena omg I had migraines everyday! The day it came out my headaches dissipated and that's a progesterone birth control

I do however agree that it could be the extra estrogen could caus it... Ever bodies body is going to react differently to different hormones

[Longingforgirl]

I just had the headaches in the beginning. But now that you mention it, they have totally faded and disappeared somehow. I guess every body reacts differently on different levels of hormones.
Another different symptom I have been having this time are my sore breasts. I never had that before. M/s and everything else has been just like with the boys. Except that I still have to through up brushing my teeth every morning, lol. I think that also faded during my first two pregnancies much earlier on.

[DLTAG89]

Glad you dont think i'm totally crazy lol. I prob am just thinking a little too much into things but its hard not too when you want to know so bad. Only 3 more days. Cant wait till after my driving lesson on thur night and then i can really relax and concentrate on the scan :D

[Wanting-a-girl]

Yes I remember that agonizing wait! It's so nice to just know :) now time doesn't seem to be at a stand still ...

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